From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 1 00:24:38 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (astrid.wiezell at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 00:24:38 Subject: Sinister: be afraid. be very afraid. Message-ID: <141333455@spray.se> I feel strangely at home when I read all these e-mails. Aaah. I ALWAYS get a bit bullied by my friends for not being tough and listening to really cool music. They think belle and sebastian have had their time and that I should move on. Last night, party: "I just, really, sincerely hate Stuart Murdoch. I can´t see why anyone would like him.." - Erik, slightly drunk. He, and two other Erik´s (there was four people named Erik there, very confusing) was really harrassing me. I didn´t tell them about my stupid daydreams of Stuart Murdoch coming into my classroom and ask for me and he would just take me away from my awful awful awful school and we would be together all the time and he would write songs to me. Alternative back-up-plan is that I create a pop masterpiece and everyone will love me and Stuart will hear about me and we will meet and it will be love at first sight. I am, frankly, the weirdest person I know. Still needs stories to my site! Send me a text about your relationship to the music of b&s or just anything and I PROMISE it´ll be up soon. Right now, I really haven´t got anything. But if you want take a look anyway: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling loads of love! xxx Astrid Ps. But you have to admit, it is quite a nice dream. And very innocent, hahaha. Well, actually. Er.. enough said. _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hazygreyeyes at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 00:02:27 2001 From: hazygreyeyes at xxx.com (Chris Horne) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:02:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: west coast tour dates!!!!! Message-ID: Ahhhh! San Francisco on the eighth, too! Oh, dear, I think I must go to that one, if only I can figure out how! My 25th birthday is the ninth of September, and I just can't imagine passing up the opportunity to say that I spent my 25th birthday at a Belle and Sebastian concert!!! Oh my, that would be absolutely splendid, Chris 8^) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 00:38:07 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:38:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Listening to you I get the music, Gazing at you I get the heat Message-ID: Dearest Sinister, I think I have exploded with Belle and Sebastian ness at least a thousand times in the past while. So much to fill me! But yet...they are still so untouchable and far away. Another year passes, some more concerts...and I am still here, living vicariously through you. So, there was a bit of jealousy when reading all the wonderful posts, but the sheer delight soon overwhelms and makes me smile. Just some of those random moments seemed so perfect, frolicking with them on the beach at the one show, you will have that memory forever. Oh, it's not just the reviews, but the abundance of pictures, those little arms that swallowed the tennis balls, the Arms Of Sex that just won't quit. Arms of Sex everywhere! I can't even get started on the cape and pyrotechnics display or I will simply die. Now I can admire the perfect heart-shaped face even in MIME makeup, and I am frustrated, frustrated. The elfin charm radiates. The concerts just sounded so fun too, with the medals, the "hand-jiving to Legal Man" as one listee wrote and invitations for singing onstage, wow Lorraine. I saw Wilson Pickett and he invited someone on stage, but he was a bit more nudge-nudge-wink-wink, "My, my, YOU a healthy one, girl!" I bought Jonathan and David. This is old news, I know. There has been 100 reviews of that already. I love Jonathan and David. I enjoy Mick's shoulder on the back photo, peeking out with insolence. I feel like Jonathan myself, Belle and Sebastian went on to great heights and a whirlwind tour but Genevieve never really recovered. We were studying Jonathan and David in school when that was released. I just can't break the connection. I love the 'it's not like we'll never know love part' I just burst! I love Stevie's low voice, and then Struan comes in and it's just like oh my! Someone said Struan should sing the Song of Solomon for some smut content. I think someone said that. We had to study that too. Do you think it's beautiful if your beloved's hair is like a herd of goats? I don't...I like the parts where it gets to the tasting of all the secret fruits of the garden, your bosoms are like pomegranates, sing it Struanne sing it. I remember, not too long ago, someone was saying it was unfair of the double standard, that no one complains of Struan's girly voice, but he doesn't HAVE a widdly-pooh-goo-goo girly voice! It has strengthened no much, compared to the little voice on Tigermilk's The State I Am In, but again, that could be because my tape was the baby of the baby of the baby (and so on) the of original vinyl. But still! It's pure and shining, served for me on a golden platter. I love when Belle and Sebastian say 'married' in their songs, it's always the third person in the song left out, some tragic love triangle, like in You're Just a Baby, the girl has to marry some nasty brute, you just know it, but at least she can have one last night with her true love. Also, I cannot claim clairvoyance, but I remember a while ago, David Moore saying something about B&S resemblance to The Zombies in a post, and then I dreamed they did Time of The Season, and then they did. But that is also old news. I had all sorts of wishes to covers...they never did Tainted Love, did they? I know they did some stones covers already, but Under My Thumb, that would be good, or if they did The Love You Save by the Jackson 5, Struan could be Michael, and Stevie could by the other one, and they could spell out the letters in the air, with the "S, Is for save it!" "T, Is for take it slow!" part, with the girls doing the 'doo de doo' background bits. Maybe if the whole crowd had shouted a request for Baby Got Back, everyone could work themselves into a fever over Isobel's bum, sing it's praises, and then be done with it. The obsession would be exercised from our bodies, and we would feel refreshed, but until then, I just don't know. Oh, just try and pretend you wouldn't want to hear Struan shout out Shake that Healthy Butt, you can't fool me. Another thing from a while ago, whoever said it, it is weird how similar Summer Wine is to Dog On Wheels, in front of my face all this time, and I never noticed. I think Summer Wine is just about the best song to sing aloud to. I always sing it really loud when I do the dishes and am alone in the house, creeping the neighbors out when then see me flapping around with the big yellow gloves. There is another song that reminds me of something, or maybe I am just way off, but when I hear the beginning of my Girls Got Miraculous technique, I want to sing...the sun ain't gonna shine anymore...but I'm not even sure where that line is from, an oldie, I think by the walker brothers. I really have to stop, but it's just because I'm so excited, as I finally get to come overseas to Scotland and London in about a week. Love, Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Wed Aug 1 00:56:42 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (m.e. curtin) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce it tastes much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Message-ID: Yes. Hello. I've attempted posting again several times lately, but I've learned from my mistakes, and so whenever I start writing I censor whatever it is I think I should say. I end up censoring the whole thing and thinking, "oh, bother!" Well, this time I feel this strange compulsion to write, I'm sure to disastrous effect, and I can't stop my fingers from typing. So, here goes nothing! So said obsession is touring western North America. ARGHHHHH!!!!! The gods of concert going have clearly aligned against me. Truly . Vancouver? This is surely cruelty. That's 4 provinces away. Do you realize how many mines, grain elevators and MEC stores away that is? Certainly I'll be martyred for this blow to the esteem. The only consolation is the strange choice of venue, which I find to be strangely . strange. You know they just want to fandangle a stopover in Hawaii . Additionally, has anyone else heard the new (I assume) EPtypesinglething by The Dears? "Pop Noir Romantique" or something intimidating like that. I quite enjoy it. "Heathrow or Deathrow" is very addictive. They're excellent live - even without a proper sound check. I wonder if I'm the only listee who harbours an unhealthy obsession with words and grammar. Although I've probably already committed grievous grammatical errors in this single post alone, I can't help but memorize obscure grammar points and revel in them. For example, when people say 'from whence', when really it should only be 'whence'. I obsess over this. I don't know why, seeing as there are probably fewer than 10 people worldwide who actually use this term, even if incorrectly. It should be noted that Morrissey says "from whence" in Cemetry Gates. DAMN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for this boring bit. I'm not really this odd, I'm just simple-minded. On a similar line, though, I was reading the dictionary today, as I'm (sadly) apt to do, and I happened to notice the following entry: DORK n. slang 1.Penis 2.Stupid or contemptible person. Um, call me naïve, but I never knew such a phallic definition existed for this word. It upset me to think what I've really been calling people all these years . am I the only person to whom this is a surprise? On another note, do any of you remember (no doubt painfully) a movie called something like "Oxford Blues" or some equally marketable title like that? I was thinking about it the other day and it really made me laugh. It's truly a paragon of modern filmmaking. It details the trials and tribulations of a young, American 'hell-raiser' who ends up attending Oxford for some wildly unbelievable reason. Amidst many formulaic challenges, he manages to find himself the proverbial love-interest. I believe the climax of the film is the emotionally charged arch-nemesis versus pathological protagonist race, wherein our hero gets off to a fantastic lead, only to have his blade break off in mid-race. Are our hopes dashed? Of course not! Luckily our hero has the amazing capacity to mend the offending blade while still on the water and come back from several hundred metres to beat that pastylittlegoodfornothing kid. Truly he is a modern day hero. What an inspirational piece. I don't know why I brought that up. It seemed mildly important at the time. Sorry. Finally, (not that any of you care) I seem to have developed a pinball fetish. I had never played until last week, when my friend introduced me to this devilish game. I'm not very good but I'm obsessed! It was just a harmless thing at first now I crave the game. I sneak out of the house at all hours to paddle away my days in the dim, dank, pop-encrusted cavern of fortune known as the arcade. It's terrible. My parents ask me where I'm going when I slink out of the house, pinball bound, and I bark back: "I'm walking the dog!!!!!!!!" As I slam the door I hear behind me, meekly: "But, Marybeth, we don't have a dog!" It's criminal. It's vicious. I'm afraid I may start listening to The Who soon. Oh dear! I'll be quiet for another several months now. Thanks to everyone for lovely posting. Keep up the good work. Yours, grammatically, Marybeth P.S. Bonus points for naming the subject line's source. If I'm ambitious enough I might even give you a prize! P.P.S. Sorry for all those ellipses. Filthy habit. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 02:10:20 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:10:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Listening to you I get the music, Gazing at you I get the heat References: Message-ID: <002901c11a26$bd9013a0$13c50340@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genevieve Wesley" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Sinister: Listening to you I get the music, Gazing at you I get the heat It has strengthened no much, compared to > the little voice on Tigermilk's The State I Am In, but again, that could be > because my tape was the baby of the baby of the baby (and so on) the of > original vinyl. But still! It's pure and shining, served for me on a golden > platter. I love when Belle and Sebastian say 'married' in their songs, it's > always the third person in the song left out, some tragic love triangle, > like in You're Just a Baby, the girl has to marry some nasty brute, you just > know it, but at least she can have one last night with her true love. i think you brought up his improving voice a while back, and i listened to "fold" again and had to agree. "tigermilk" stuart couldn't have pulled off that "my friend came back..." bit. just the way he says "my" is wonderful :) as for "you're just a baby", i've always read it as being much seedier. he's sleeping with this married woman and wishes she'd stop talking and just go to sleep, and besides, i ain't gonna be around when you wake up, go to work, think of your adultery, and break down with guilt, cause i've had it with your waffling. maybe because it seemed so perversely unlike the rest of the songs. stuart the heartless stud. i always took the title to be a putdown of some sort anyway. i suppose your interpretation is more likely though, and in that way reminds me of "harvest festival" by xtc, with its story of "you know you and me got a good thing goin' on if you'd let it, but i'll come to your wedding and be nice.....and after all, you know it's still there between us". and of course there's always "mother of the bride" by billy bragg, which is a bit more bitter. i don't think i've heard "summer wine" actually, but i do often think of "alone again or" when i hear "dog on wheels". the trumpet break seems to be a dead giveaway, but i'm working with incomplete information. as for the likelihood or lack thereof of east coast touring, i've gnashed my teeth a few times this year over other bands who then miraculously came around to setting atlanta dates, so i can't give up hope yet. it *would* be quite a big "fuck you" gesture wouldn't it? "oh, one week's all we can take and then we'll be exhausted......and go play everywhere else". don't get me started on r.e.m.'s non-tour, playing a damn free show in toronto and not even their hometown. :) jay "come and find me, i'll be waiting with a gun and a pack of sandwiches" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 09:40:46 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:40:46 Subject: Sinister: killing spree Message-ID: Daer list. Only 18 days and then I'll be 24. If you want to send me some presents, please mail me and I'll give you my adress. Things I'd like to receive: Playstation 2 (and that new ISS football when it's released), a ticket to a far away land, some booze, money, fags, peace on earth, nice t-shirts, those funny gadgets they sell on TV, money, some albums by Ride that I still haven't got, all the episodes of "Sledgehammer" on video, more cd's/vinyls, money, a free trip to London to see Hefner in Sheperds Bush Empire, all those cd's from Nine Inch Nails that I sold a few years ago (14, including all the albums and almost all of their singles that they had released back then), seven little dwarfs, "Life After God" by Douglas Coupland, Snow White, and a framed photo of me copulating a monkey. And only 30 days 'till The Eels are playing here! Been listening to "Daisies of the Galaxy" quite a lot lately. I don't think it's as good as "Electro-shock Blues", but I don't have that one. ESB is one DARK album. And also very difficult to listen to. As some of you might know, Mr E. decided to make an album about the deaths of his mother and sister, and the songs aren't too cheery, as you can imagine. Random lyrics: "But waking up is harder when you wanna die" (Elizabeth on the Bathroom Floor) "Going to your funeral now and feeling I could scream" (Going to the Funeral Part 1) "Yesterday was suckin' and tomorrow's looking bad" (Hospital Food) "I was at a funeral the day I realized/ I wanted to spend my life with you" (P.S You Rock My World) If a person sings about death, how should I react? I don't have any experience in things like that (thank god), and he did write songs about it, so I should be ok with whatever he is saying, but... I don't know. It feels like knowing _too much_ about someones personal life, like reading his diary. A bit like "The Chalet Lines": we know things like these happen, but people just don't talk about them. And think about it: Since E. from the Eels has been very open about the death of his mother and sister... What do you think his friends and relatives have to say? "Man, the song where you sing about your mother dying of cancer, it's brilliant!" While listening to "Daisies of the Galaxy" on my way to work, I always put down my book when "It's a motherfucker" comes out of my walkman. "It's a Motherfucker Being here without you thinking 'bout the good times thinkin 'bout the bad And I won't ever be the same It's a Motherfucker Getting through a Sunday Talking to the walls just me again But I won't ever be the same I won't ever be the same It's a Motherfucker How much I understand The meaning that you need someone I could take you be the hand And you won't ever be the same You won't ever be the same" If someone sings about death, am I really allowed to identify with what he/she is saying, even though the lyrics take on a completely different meaning in my head? Morals. Phew. -JF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 11:38:45 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 11:38:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: celebrity skin Message-ID: Hiya peeps Isn't it exciting that our wee bandfolks are heading stateside in a big way - I wonder if bus driver Jim will be going along for the ride(?) Hope all our US and Brazilian chums have as much fun as we all did. Saw my first B&S t-shirt wearer on Farringdon Street this morning - it was the blue & pink car one, as worn by a smallish girl with dark hair -you know who you are (probably). Since I missed the picnic on Saturday (I was being stored in a cool, dark place away from strong odours), I'd like to contribute this: www.geometrid.co.uk ... site showing StuD being Peacock Johnson in a scarily schizophrenic celebrity way. Also the chance to buy your very own 'F*** Stuart David' t-shirt. A bit harsh, I thought. Keep singing, dancing and dressing up, Miss Ho the Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rizop at xxx.gr Wed Aug 1 12:34:53 2001 From: rizop at xxx.gr (rizop at xxx.gr) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:34:53 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Sinister: they called you king of the prom, is it true or are you still the queen? Message-ID: <200108011134.OAA10594@ismene.ics.forth.gr> smiles to the sinisterland i attended saturday's london picnic and it was grate! i was really nervous at the start (after all it was my first sinister picnic) but elena was a good mummy and calmed me down. and indeed, i managed to leave the picnic without being bitten nor bruised!!! chris said: >A boy sat next to me. I think he was Nick? If I am wrong, can he please >correct me. he listened a lot. ok, that was me... i listened a lot and learned plenty (a truly educational picnic). i listened and watched the strawberriesandcreamgirl learning to play dog on wheels on a four string guitar and sam(or is it asm?) learning how to avoid rats by the york sinister massive. mark was really good in improvising with his recorder and chris was colour-coordinated, matching his study at stow t-shirt with his rugby socks! i suppose i left the picnic in a hurry without saying any "nice to meet you" and stuff like that but it totally slipped my mind (probably because of my nervousness). afterwards, i phoned another fellow greek sinistereen (currently swimming somewhere in the Aegean) giannis (better known as torch/torchy in #sinister) and he was really excited (and a little bit jealous i suppose) after i told him about the sinister picnic... SUBJECT LINE i didn't get to meet everyone at the picnic but i met stevie trousers and sarah yesterday at the spitz. baxendale RAWKED! trousers was unanimously elected King of the Prom and i've got a picture of him wearing his crown!!! i'm going to auction it as soon as the film get's developed. to bid please e-mail me off the list. that's it! rainbows, nick +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 13:47:32 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:47:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce it tastes much more like prunes than rhubarb does. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010801124732.57769.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> --- "m.e. curtin" wrote: > > > P.S. Bonus points for naming the subject line's > source. If I'm ambitious > enough I might even give you a prize! i know! i know! it's said by groucho marx in, er, Duck Soup or Monkey Business or Horse Feathers? one of those, anyway. groucho marx is the greatest. Madeleine McNeil wondered: >Do you think other people strike up >conversations with people sporting T-shirts of their >favourite bands? >(apologies for terrible sentence construction) Or are >B&S fans just a >little bit more friendly? it's happened to me once or twice, most recently in san francisco when i went clubbing in a Teenage Fanclub t-shirt. i might occasionally remark on a complete stranger's t-shirt but mostly i'd be too *shy*. b&s fans are probably more likely to do it because there's a chance we know each other through sinister! it's a beautiful sunny day here in dublin. oh yes. rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - Groucho Marx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 15:50:52 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:50:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Knickers Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F8012314D@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> Sinister! I had a couple of things to say today, unusually, but I can't remember what they were. So, instead, I want to ask a question of my NYC (and anyone else who can help) buddies. My friend is trying to find anywhere he can buy the works of the artist Eddy des Planques, who has done various murals round Nolita and the Lower East Side - apparently there's a shop on Orchard Street (where I saw rats on my first night in the Big Apple) called Zow (sp?) which has his work on the walls. Can anyone give me any further info, especially if it'll help track down commercially available material? That would be lovely, thanks. Content? Yes, I'm moderately happy, thanks for asking. Markx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CHRIS.COBB at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 15:47:00 2001 From: CHRIS.COBB at xxx.com (Chris Cobb) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 9:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do not rule out anything yet( Message-ID: <2E606D01538F1941BFB3CE85CF1AA292@high-voltage.com> I think this may be correct. If you'll notice, there is about a month gap between the last US date, and the dates in Brazil... whats the sense in going back to Scotland for that month? ~Chris!~ -----Original Message----- From: Chris Paluch [mailto:keleidoscopic at xxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:37 PM To: Chris Cobb; debbie spiers; shop; sinister Subject: Sinister: Do not rule out anything yet( Well this really only concerns the sinister people in US and CANADA. I seriously do not think that B&S have completely anounced thier whole north american tour. So if your city is not on the list(like toronto), do not worry just yet. If toronto is not on the east coast and midwest dates, then worry. But I have a feeling that B&S will play some east coast dates, in fact it would be silly if they did not. I just hope they play montreal or boston. I just think they are announcing a few dates, to give us fans in the US some sense of when they might be near us. I am guessing they will be here east in october, but i may be wrong. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars The fog and the sunlight overshadow what is really the point sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Aug 1 16:19:53 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:19:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You're fourteen years old, and your breasts are three... Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775579@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> OK, so on International B&S day, I completely forgot it was happening. So I didn't go to any of the picnics. This may or may not have been because I was in Hungary at the time playing korfball. All those poor people in the West Coast of America are hopelesly out of fashion. Getting ridiculously excited about B&S gigs is just SO last month, darlings. Kirsten always has the little message at the bottom of her posts: ----- Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! ----- And I keep wondering why anyone would want to save Westlife... Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, lots of people keep expresing their undying love for a certain Mr Chu. And much as I understand your desires to get inside his underwear, I'm afraid that you may have missed the boat; their are strong rumours of a secretive relationship between Mr Chu and a certain Scottish picnicer, who goes by the name of Belle. Still, we don't need to get hung up on Ken anymore, because joy of joys, Genevieve is back! We've missed you... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 18:41:20 2001 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: He had a stroke at the age of 26... Message-ID: <20010801174121.18927.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Hi list. Long time no post. My head almost exploded today. That happened right after I got the confirmation message that I had gotten my tickets for the Belle and Sebastian show at the Warfield in San Francisco. For some reason, my fear of flying has disappeared, and I welcome my trip from Ohio to California at the end of August with open arms(if I gotta get on the plane, we may as well make it a LONG trip.) This is like a dream come true. I don't think I've ever felt this happy. I just had to tell someone who would understand. I guess skipping PopFantasy wasn't a mistake. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Wed Aug 1 17:14:12 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:14:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! Message-ID: <00b301c11aa5$02f63360$4b04fd3e@neil> I'd better stop yous there. Don't read anything into there being a gap between the West Coast and Brazil. We're going home in between. There will be no East Coast shows. There is one more West Coast show to be announced. We haven't finalised it yet, and I wanted to get the rest of the shows on sale. Just to get things straight. Three years ago we played some shows on the East Coast. Now we're doing some on the West. We will be back in the East soon enough. For the moment though, there's loads of other places we've never visited. The people of Japan, Australia, Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Nothern Ireland, Iceland and Denmark, for example, have never had a visit, and they must be ahead of New York in the queue. My apologies to the good people of Philadelphia and Toronto, who I think have a right to be disappointed. We owe you one (at least), but to come to the East and only do these two would be hard to justify. We've got some catching up to do, but we're making decent progress, and we'll be round again as soon as we can. Sorry about that. Please bear with us. I appreciate your patience. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 20:52:53 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:52:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: (S)He had a stroke at the age of 26... Message-ID: Sinister. My loves, oh what a day already. I must concur with what dear Brandt said: > My head almost exploded today. That happened right > after I got the confirmation message that I had gotten > my tickets for the Belle and Sebastian show at the > Warfield in San Francisco. I feared anurism, myself. But alas, the shaking hands have subsided somewhat, and my skull seems intact, if a bit thick, so I'm told. I keep checking to see if they've "printed the transaction" at ticketmaster. They're lazy. It's been hours now. I have a cold fear of my card being denied or some other mishap that would deny me the seats I now have proprietorial rights to. God save us from such a fate. I too am flying in. I was thinking of a road trip, from here to SF for the show, then on up the coast. Unfortunately, this grandiose plan fell through before I could even begin to fantasize about it properly, and I must now settle for Just San Francisco. I don't imagine I'll be too disappointed if I can only manage one show, right? There are others who are less fortunate. I'm such a greedy girl. I want more. Ah, well. Well, if a bunch of us are flying in, perhaps we'll end up having a sini-picnic in the airport lounge. That would be a sight! Assuming, of course, that we're all in the same airport. Perhaps some brave soul will volunteer their mummy-services for a *real* picnic (hint, hint). I would offer myself, but. . . well, I'm not from there, and I wouldn't have the faintest clue. So, I will wait with bated breath instead. For the whole enchilada. Surprisingly, I actually have work to do, so I'll take my leave now. Much Sini-Love, Shannon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hazygreyeyes at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 22:19:54 2001 From: hazygreyeyes at xxx.com (Chris Horne) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:19:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Alas, the skies are clear and the birds they do sing! Message-ID: I now am the proud holder of tickets for both San Francisco's show, and Portland's. This should be a rather enjoyable event, and one that I am most certainly looking forward to with a smile upon my rosy-cheeked face. Now, hopefully someone might clear up a few things, I'd caught wind yesterday afternoon that there was a *proposed* show to be held at Reed College in their little student commons ground. I would like to verify if this is the truth or if it is false, granted someone out there knows (and I'm sure someone does). Because, if it is indeed true, I can have the opportunity to see B&S not twice, but three times, which, needless to say, would be absolutely fantastic. Furthermore, I do know that ticketmaster had stated to me that a second show at the Warfield is slated, but not confirmed. This would be a show to occur on my birthday, September ninth! That would be four times. However, as it is my birthday that day, shouldn't I be given the treat of being treated to that show by all my good friends out there? Just a suggestion :-) Well, I think a picnic is still a superb idea for either here or in Portland or in Olympia. Whereever, I'll be attending at least half of the U.S. shows, which is quite nice, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 23:25:32 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:25:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: P-U-N-K-A PUNKA!, Underground clich - PUNKA! Message-ID: anybody who hasen't heard of Ben and Jason yet should do so now got that? good i saw them in a tapas bar in newcastle yesterday and they were dead good, the day before was a croation tea rooms in glasgow. they're doing a free tour at the moment to promote the new single and if you get the chance to go then do so, you get a free cd and they'll even sign it if you ask them nicely. they put on mine "Pez, you're nicer than the sweets" and they really liked my t-shirt. there was a guy there with an IYFS t-shirt on and that led to an anecdode about someone asking them if they were that band 'belle and jason', aw bless. my t-shirt has three chord diagrams on it and says 'this is a chord, this is another, this is a third; Now form a band' ------------ Newcastle picnic update!! it's on! CarsmileSteve?, will you be here on the 17th coz me and Mike Winship are going to see Tompaulin at the cluny. if not i'll see you on the 18th. i think if we meet at the foot of gray's monument it would be the easiest, no? tell me what you think ------------ it's so nice to hear all you americans getting your own back now you've got your own gigs to go to. personally i carnt wait to hear the transatlantic gig reviews, find out what covers they are doing there. woo! poodle rockin'!! Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com Wed Aug 1 23:29:39 2001 From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Harry Hunt) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:29:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: silver reflection...cherry blossom baptism Message-ID: I'm trying to TRICK my stomach into thinking it's been filled with food, by giving it a small amount of food (as much as I can be bothered to fill it with) and then having ginger tea. Last night I was handed a beaker of orange juice, just before I fell asleep in bed. I managed to pour it over my head as I dozed off, and the juicepatch left on my sheet spelt DOOM, or seemed to. When I moved up, I lost all sense of self. It's great. Fugg knows where I am. I don't know if I'm in the future, where I've sorted everything out, or in the past, when I got in this mess, or if I'm living the niggling in between bit they call youth. Am I young? How old are you? Fancy a snog? My ginger tea is ready. Excuse me. If you can suspend your boredom over the next blank line as I get my tea, that'd be a feat of technological MASTERY. When I moved up here to Glasgow I was accused, or perhaps cited as, a socialist, because I give rich people with piffling problems SHORT SHRIFT. The other day, I was accused of being sarcastic and sardonic all the time. I thought I was MEANT to. I thought I was generation X, or at lease XI. Isn't there somewhere in Ireland that you can buy a horse for a fiver, and all the ned/spydes on the council estates have one, and call it Prince? (The one called Sheba died) I'm staying up so I can watch "Full Moon High" which EVERY review I've seen has slated. It's just better than going to bed at a reasonable hour, which still seems like such an injustice. Thankyou to everyone I've met recently, who's been nice to me. I'm having a bit of a rocky* time of late and youse have temporarily taken the y* away. But seriously folks, drinking and driving. What's up with that? Love Harry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 00:59:04 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:59:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: I love action, but not violence Message-ID: <36.1972cd05.2899f1c9@aol.com> If you know that quote, I assume you're from Connecticut. Unless I'm just ignorant of Parade being published elsewhere. So yeah, Phil Hartman was the funny man with the knowledge of the soylent. Quick question. What the heck does soylent even mean. Did they pick the word at random? Who are they anyway? Anyhue, chinacat knew it. So did some other guy, but I forget who. Chinacat told me first so chinacat gets the super best lucky fun bonus points. So does the other guy for saying "quote fu." These bonus points can be used as cash at all Kara Jean retailers near you. If I was fabulously wealthy I'd probably do this. I would sit somewhat precariously atop a gorgeous mound of glittering Things and give them away to those who garnered bonus points. They're ridiculously easy to get, so it's pretty much something for everyone. People were talking of tee shirts. I had my first sighting the other day while walking around perusing sidewalk sales. There was this manboy wearing the ampersand shirt. While my mind was thinking of nice, possibly even charming ways to introduce myself my mouth got ahead of me and decided to go with "Whoa!!!....Belle and Sebastian!!!!" My potential new friend turned to look at me briefly, then just walked away. Oh sadness. I'm sure he didn't mean to be rude. So today at work I doodled some cover art for the sinister movie mixtape I'm making. Soon I will peruse font galleries for appropriate fonts. I hope lots of people want the tape. People who gave me painting ideas Will get the tape. People who indulged my soylent amusement Will get the tape. Anyone who wants it Will get the tape. People willing to devote their vocal talents to the tape will get the tape and something else cool in thanks if I can think of it...oh I will, just give me time. Neil, way to puncture my dreams. Oooooooohhh, Japan, oooooh. Yeah, but what about the East Coast people who've never seen Belle and Sebastian, Neil? I hate you Neil. I'm just kidding Neil. I love you like an uncle Neil. When's your birthday. I'll bake you cookies. You want Russian Tea Cakes Neil? I can do that. I fear the 15 minute egg timer is just about up so hows about I end with a tangent. I was thinking about this time when I was eight and I was playing four square and I hit the ball really hard and this other girl thought it sprained her wrist. I felt so bad that I bashed my wrist against a desk and sprained it. Turned out the other girl wasn't even hurt. I had to wear an ace bandage. All of this makes me wonder if you play four square in England. Love and comfy clothing, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katyms at xxx.au Thu Aug 2 02:10:43 2001 From: katyms at xxx.au (Katy Stevens) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:10:43 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Rule it out! In-Reply-To: <200108012359.AAA26288@missprint.org> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010802105932.009ade80@pop.ihug.com.au> so said... >The people of Japan, Australia, Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, Chile, >Portugal, Nothern Ireland, Iceland and Denmark, for example, have never had >a visit, and they must be ahead of New York in the queue. >Cheers, > >Neil oh boy! please come see us here in australia!! that would be grand!! i have a nice house with a backyard and a dog that you can stay in while you play sydney!! there are lots of pretty parks around!! we can drink tea! (i make lovely chai) no, but truly, i'm sure all my fellow australian (gosh i wish there was a better abbreviation than the abominable 'aussies'!) sinisterians (AND MORE!!) would exercise the greatest of appreciation and adoration if you were to eventually venture forth into our land on the ocean... but enuff of the obligatory "i wish they would tour" yammering... i have a (sad) story to tell... my flatmate's dog is very sweet - she has big brown eyes and a little round head and she loves us all dearly, but BY GOD! would she stop maiming my childhood toys for one second?!?!!? I have found no less than 6 (!) of my beloved stuffed toys with their faces torn off!! right off!! she leaves the rest intact which i find quite sinister (no pun. no PUN!!). I even bought her a rubber toy in the shape of a rolled up newspaper - it's called PET NEWS so it's plainly for her!! I imagined that she could keep up to date on the latest in doggie fashion and politics while ripping it apart with glee (oh the subversive element!). but she keeps going back to my room and destroying things!! i shut the door but somehow she finds a way... what is a girl to do? xxkaty * * "I am thankful for laughter, except when milk comes out of my nose." --Woody Allen * ICQ: 44771884 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kheydt at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 02:59:23 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kirk the jerk) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:59:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: FIRST US GIG REVIEW! Message-ID: <3B68B3F3.B618D7E4@erols.com> The show was as follows. The didn't come, because evidently three years ago was recent enough for an east coast US tour. As a means of distraction for those of us bound to the Atlantic I propose "The East Coast Sinister Belle & Sebastian Cover Band." We can play churches picnics and private bedrooms. Interested Stuarts, Stevies, Micks, Sarahs, Isobels, Chris', Richards, and Bobs contact me with your whereabouts and availability. Club owners and booking agents do the same. Maybe something can be worked out for September. All musicians welcome (oboists, flautists), but no saxophones please. All levels of ability welcome. Details to be worked out if enough are interested. That's another fine mess I've gotten myself into, -kirk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 03:42:05 2001 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simes) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:42:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: come,come,come (here please) Message-ID: <200108020242.TAA11833@mail3.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 03:55:18 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:55:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: i don't care about the east coast, or the west... Message-ID: <117.28ff7f5.289a1b16@aol.com> Just Yesterday, a little green monster appeared underneath my bed. It woke me in the middle of the night. I was sad, so sad. Belle and Sebastian dreams cloud my head that, if not for school, I'd find a way to get to the West coast. But September is no match for me. And even my birthday (when they will be playing)(Sept. 13) I cannot find a way there... Sad, so sad. Everyone east coast is saying "Maybe Maybe If I say 'Maybe' enough they'll come." But I tell you, what about me? What about the people in the middle of the country who cannot get to the West or East coast? Hmmm? Has anyone thought of us, the poor people of the center of the US?? So I make a plea, stop whining, because I want them too!! Kate p.s. Congrats to all the people of the West coast. You are now my enemy (and I've said it before), watch out!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Aug 2 08:40:30 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:40:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: One more for the road Message-ID: <005201c11b26$6947b9a0$4984fc3e@neil> Due to overwhelming demand a second Belle & Sebastian show on Sun. Sept. 9 at The Warfield in San Francisco has been added. Tickets are on sale now ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.net Thu Aug 2 01:54:46 2001 From: cellophanesky at xxx.net (Brian Pennington) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:54:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Put the Book Back on the Shelf Message-ID: <200108020102.SAA21523@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Hmm, One would think that leaving an electronic mailing list would be a very easy task. I've done it numerous times before. I was going to simply unsubscribe and have that be that, quietly fading away. But for some reason it just didn't feel right. So I just thought I'd let you know goodbye. I'd really rather not get into why I'm leaving, if only because doing so always sounds critical or vindictive, or at the very least a little too wistful. I certainly haven't stopped listening to the band, nor would I ever, I should expect. I will say that a large part of my staying on the list this long involved hearing about tour news. And I guess I got my wish, but as it seems there won't be any of relevance to me for a long time to come, staying on seems a bit silly. I don't want to come across like I'm angry at the band or the tour organizers for not coming to New York or any of the places on the East Coast. I consider myself lucky and I have seen them already, and even met some of them. Everyone should be so lucky. It's only that it's a bit frustrating to be dismissed. It was frustrating when I lived hours from the nearest place a band would even consider playing, and it's worse now because I know it's feasible for a band to play here, whereas playing in somewhere in the middle of the countryside is obviously not. I know I personally have flown halfway across the continent to see Belle & Sebastian, and driven some on top of that just to see them a second time. I feel it was worth it, but I don't find myself in the monentary position to do it a second time. Anyway, where was I? Well, I just want to say thanks to all the people I met from Sinister and #sinister. I'm sure I'll probably run into a few of you again. And to those I never met, thanks for making me smile every now and again. I'm sure I won't be able to resist peeking into the archives. Goodbye. Brian Pennington | cellophanesky at mac.com | AIM: aVespertineDream Semi-regular observations: the Cellophane Sky: Sandcastle Records: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ojh9 at xxx.uk Thu Aug 2 10:17:32 2001 From: ojh9 at xxx.uk (Jonathan Howell) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:17:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Off White Stripes? References: <005201c11b26$6947b9a0$4984fc3e@neil> Message-ID: <001d01c11b33$f75c7c00$dbbe7ad5@g> Oh no, sorry... The lights were off, now I can see that those stripes are in shining white, digitally remastered, technocolor (which is a bit of a waste really, but there you go). So, which of you fellows will be at the Cockpit in Leeds tonight for that gig then? Perhaps I shall see you there. I'll be beflared in blue, and possibly with an inverse B&S badge (but then maybe not too, that one depends on my mood as I leave the house). My hair will be trying to touch the ceiling (in brown). I would have worn just red and white... but I don't own any red or white trousers, besides, riding on fashion statements for a hobby is (maybe a little) sad. Now I'm assuming that they'll have other people in to play the other instruments while they play guitar and drums... but I'd be really amused if it was just the two of them on the stage in red and white. I was thinking about the way they refuse to tell people what their real relationship is... perhaps they're just close friends having fun. That's my theory anyway. Kara* was talking about recording people, if you're still looking then you can have my voice too... just fo a little while mind, and only if I'll be getting it back in the same state. It's not the bestest voice in the world, but I've had it for a long time now (twenty years in a week and a day) and It's rather useful. Oh yes... it sounds like an exciting project to me. Well, those lovely people at my local ind-record shop have now started writing Belle and Sebastian releases down on their wall of upcoming stuff (since they now realise that someone likes them a lot, since I asked them to grab me a JD video) ...btw, it's Jonathan that they've used, not Jonathon (as many people say)... I probably wouldn't have noticed, but it's very exciting to be mentioned in a B&S song... It makes me feel like a Lisa or a Judy. I was almost like a mother to the girl I've fallen for... but then I'm spelt differently. I wonder if Jonny Greenwood is excited by all this too. No one knows because of all that hair over his face... Love... Jonny. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fixxxer16 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 09:21:55 2001 From: fixxxer16 at xxx.com (eu eu) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:21:55 Subject: Sinister: Excuse, moi, -, B&S, will, be, in, BRAZIL!!!, October!! Message-ID: Yeah!!! GODAMN, a once in a lifetime oportunity from this humble brazilian lad. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 12:00:44 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:00:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Off White Stripes? Message-ID: Hello >Now I'm assuming that they'll have other people in to play the other >instruments while they play guitar and drums... but I'd be really amused if >it was just the two of them on the stage in red and white. they dont, its just the 2 of them. >I was thinking about the way they refuse to tell people what their real >relationship is... perhaps they're just close friends having fun. they are brother and sister. just thought Id let you know. love philip _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 13:56:01 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (little squirrels & dandelions dance around the park) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:56:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: it's magic, silly! Message-ID: Dear Sinister, it's raining today.. i bet its raining everywhere in scotland just now. we've got this continual drizzle, like a nozzle being opened full, and letting its droplets sprinkle everwhere it wants. which is lovely & ticklish, but everywhere's just soaking now. the rain's made this funny pattern on the loch though.. the loch itself is coloured in a navy blue, and has this darker blue comouflagey thing coating it, decorated by the drizzle. it's lovely. we got new furniture for the sitting room a few days ago, when it wasn't raining. there's this fantastic reclining chair, whose back doesn't give away unless you put a cetain amount of pressure on it in a certain spot, which is good for not getting a big fright when you lean back.. the sofas are placed around the walls of the room, which leaves this massive space in the centre, so i can round around in circles with my arm held out, pretending to ice skate. but then there had to be a coffee table.. poo. there's even more trouble with the sheepies.. the farmers can't sell them to anyone, and they can't afford to keep them much longer than the end of the summer.. baaa um, i thnk i should go take care johnjohn x p.s. i'm going to be in glasgow next week sometime, and am likely to be lonely & scared.. if anyone's willing to adopt me for the day, i'll send hugs & love & nicites.. and if someone does want to, i'll buy them something gorgeous.. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Thu Aug 2 14:32:07 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:32:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reading, rioting and asthmatic Message-ID: ello babies It appears that sini-reading has bitten the dust over at yahoogroups, so I was wondering who was going to the Reading festival this year. Me and Mrs Carsmile are going on the Friday as it features most of our fave bands (me: moldy peaches, arab strap, her: strokes, king adora, peej), twould be nice to meet up with people, if for no other reason than so i have someone to talk to when strokes/KA are on :) Pez said: somebody mentioned that they didn't want to meet the man because he's (sini)famous, well i've never met *any* sinistreens yet and what better way to start than right at the top (or near the top, he's not quite llaura llew or ken chu now is he?) and i cringed in embarrassment. really i don't know what else to say about this... but anyway if anyone else is in or around newcastle on the 18th COME TO THE PUB!! Nick said: trousers was unanimously elected King of the Prom and i've got a picture of him wearing his crown!!! who is this trousers person? i shall have to ask my editor... York was nice, there is a pub called "Ye Olde Starre Inn", although i didn't drink a shandy in it. oh and YAY Geneveive is coming to see us!!! I await the benicassim reviews with baited breath... xoxo Friendly Neighbourhood CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol04 at xxx.uk Thu Aug 2 15:56:57 2001 From: ol04 at xxx.uk (the narrow wizard) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:56:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Going back to the girl who made me smile Message-ID: hello Im a happy wizard mainly cos i had a good day on monday went to see ben and jason play in a strange tea room in Glasgow and they were real good so it didnt matter that i was being ignored by the sinistrines i was with (they had other things on their minds i think) but even more importantly bought a Pooh Sticks record that ive been after for ages and ages so ive spent the rest of the week dancing about and singing any band who do songs called "Indiepop aint noise pollution" and write "Stephen Pastel: will you sleep with me?" on record covers must be worshipped (though as far as sleeping with members of the pastels is concerned i'd prefer the drummer Katrina) Random lyric quote if love's the answer don't I need a question too no heart can tie what the fates undo oh ive just thought there was recent list talk about fear of sleeping naked if any of the women suffering this problem want to get in touch I'll give a private lesson in how to sleep naked love and nakedness owen with that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind just a faint smell of sin (sorry that should read cinnamon) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 18:21:54 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:21:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: poor jonny greenwood can't see Message-ID: <2878F77456785D1168260005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> funny that Jonny should mention Jonny Greenwood's mop of hair...that was part of the reason for yesterday's drastic haircut (which, i might add, went off without a hitch or a nick and was not entirely terrifying.) i was worried that i was beginning to look like Mr. Greenwood with all of that black hair falling in my face, and he's an attractive enough fellow but he would make a hideous girl. there was only one frightening moment during my haircut, during which the girl cutting my hair put all sorts of sticky stuff in it and made it stand straight up. i felt i was going to spend the afternoon crying because i had morphed from Jonny Greenwood into Sid Vicious in less than half an hour. however, i was able to brush most of the goo out of my do and the end result was very nice. on an entirely different note, does anyone in ireland know a boy they call twink? i think he is on this list and i can't find him anywhere. okay everybody rock out. luv kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nathan830 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 18:44:14 2001 From: nathan830 at xxx.com (Nathan Walker) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Off White Stripes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010802174414.65488.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Now, I just read an interview in the Detroit Metro Times that quotes them as being formerly married. I have a feeling they're being a bit convoluted for sensationalism. I still love the band, though! If you dig them, check out the Dirtbombs. Another Detroit band that has the same attitude and are quite close with the white stripes. - nathan --- philip boucher wrote: > Hello > > >Now I'm assuming that they'll have other people in > to play the other > >instruments while they play guitar and drums... but > I'd be really amused if > >it was just the two of them on the stage in red and > white. > > they dont, its just the 2 of them. > > >I was thinking about the way they refuse to tell > people what their real > >relationship is... perhaps they're just close > friends having fun. > > they are brother and sister. > > just thought Id let you know. > > love > philip > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From silviarimembriancor at xxx.it Thu Aug 2 19:10:29 2001 From: silviarimembriancor at xxx.it (Silvietta) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:10:29 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Italian picnic project + B&S ringtone for nokia Message-ID: <000201c11b7f$b6165d00$d2457a3e@default> Ciao tutti, very briefly: Italian sini-picnic under construction - ciao Stefano, ti scrivo presto! If you're interested, you can e-mail me privately, or visit - here's the link (hoping it's not considered spamming - really sorry if it is): http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/italianslowgraffiti Sharing&Sharing corner: Made by myself almost three centuries ago yes indeed - but I have a lousy lousy lousy ear anyway. Belle And Sebastian: 8e1 8e1 8e1 4#f1 4#g1 8a1 8#c1 2a1 8- 8e1 8e1 8e1 4#f1 4#g1 8a1 8#c1 2a1 8- 8a1 8a1 8a1 4b1 4#c2 8- 4#d3 8e3 4#d3 8#c3 4b1 32- 4a1 8#c2 4e2 8#c2 8a1 8- 4#g1 8b1 8#d2 8- 8b1 8#g1 8- 2#f1 tempo 160b/m Bye, Silvia +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandon at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 20:15:27 2001 From: brandon at xxx.com (Brandon) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:15:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Hello. Message-ID: <20010802121527.A20827@discontent.com> My name is Brandon, and this is my first post. How are you all doing? As a native of San francisco, may I offer the following suggestions to those who are planning to frolic in the best city the US has to offer? * there is little to no public transportation to or from any of the area airports to SF. be forewarned. * The Warfield is not in the best neighborhood but is not too bad either. * Any picnics to be held should occur in Golden Gate park, for the following reasons: - It is the most beautiful park I have ever seen - It is near the best record store I have ever seen (Amoeba Music) which is located in the tip of the legendary Haight-Ashbury district into which you may want to descend - It is located near the N-Judah MUNI line, by which the Warfield may also be accessed. It runs from the beach down to the ferry Building downtown, so is a good and simply artery traverser. I don't normally sound like this (or type either) but it was fun. :) feel free to email me for any further questions/hints or whatever. I'm excited - I'm sure you all are too! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 20:19:31 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:19:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: you adjust your specs & read about "GOING WEST" Message-ID: <20010802191931.15050.qmail@juno.com> hey, It seems everyone is in a tizzy figuring out how to get to the westcoast to attend one or more concerts. I’m offering a solution. I am still looking for travel companions on my road trip to the westcoast. Thus far, the dates haven’t geehawed with people’s schedules, so most are flying out and going to one or two shows. Which I understand, what with fall semesters starting and the rest of us with jobs and (ugh) responsibilities. And I don’t expect everyone to quit their job and pack their bags. (I’ve personally wanted to quit for awhile) But still. I haven’t looked at a map yet, so I have no route in mind (hope this isn’t scaring everyone away). Which means - if you’re a bit off the beaten path, that’s okay. Here are the shows I have tickets for: 1) san francisco on the 8th 2) portland 3) vancouver (well, no tix yet) 4) seattle So the whole trip will probably take 10 – 14 days. depending on the route, enjoying the sites and such, etc But if no one decides they can come with, I’ll just dress my car up all sinistRish and meet up with everyone whose flying (and those of you from the west too) once I get there. But you’d be missing out on a lot of fun. This is going to be low budget. So I can guarantee you at least a few pb and jelly sandwiches for your in-drive meals. A kind soul was offering to put up persons at their place near SF, if anyone else wants to offer a floor –I’d appreciate it very, very much. SF is one place where I already have that issue taken care of. And I suppose after going west I should head back east, but that may be too much, I think : ) Anyhow - hope that works out My apartment is about 100 degrees, so minimalism or lack of sleepware is of most importance. I either just made that totally incomprehensible or....I don't know, but using the word naked, would sort of ruined the innocent tone of the post. oh well. When I first joined the list, I thought how anonymously great. But now I know a few of you, and then an old neighbor pops up. What next? But, you know, it’s even better when its not anonymous. Hoping to get flooded with emails about the trip, amy b. ???HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT LAKES PICNIC??? -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 20:56:27 2001 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Tips, sour grapes, the lot In-Reply-To: <200108021920.UAA15447@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20010802195627.37104.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> Two posts in two days. Sorry, but I had to say a few things. First, thanks to Brandon, who used his first post to advise travellers to the Warfield shows. Luckily, I happen to be coming for more than just the Belle and Sebastian show and staying with friends the whole week before, and there are 8 of us going, so I'm sure we'll manage. Secondly, I'm hearing a lot of grumbling coming from the east coast, and all I really have to say is that they need to get over it. East Coasters can complain when they get more looked over than mid-westerners. Since that is never going to happen, I'm not going to feel very sympathetic. I don't mean to start a flame war (and I hope I don't) but Belle and Sebastian didn't even play Detroit on their last US tour so that meant every Belle and Sebastian fan from Iowa to Ohio, from Michigan to Missouri had to do the Chicago show or nothing. Obviously, from the tone of Neil's post yesterday, the members of belle and sebastian like to hang out at home. And who can blame them. I often wonder how bands like the lucksmiths who travelled all over the US on their last tour could do it for three months. I think most people like to feel rooted and be around their stuff, so I think B & S have the right idea--come to the Western US and Canada for two weeks, then go home for 6 then check out Brazil. Sounds like a dream life to me... If Belle and Sebastian wanted to, they could do a massive tour of the United States and hit towns like Cleveland or St. Louis or Minneapolis and sell out just as quickly as they did in San Francisco and they would make a ton of money doing it. But they don't want to. And we have to respect that. It may not make us happy as fans, but we have to respect it. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kshank at xxx.net Thu Aug 2 15:54:51 2001 From: kshank at xxx.net (kshank at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:54:51 Canada/Eastern Subject: Sinister: lucky turds Message-ID: <20010802195553.DDC7B11FA9@mail.interlynx.net> hi... i haven�t posted here in quite a while..actually, it�s been a couple of years, at least! just been a bit busy. but i�m coming to scotland for a couple of weeks at the end of august and i wanted to get some advice from those of you who live in the area/have visited about camping in the area. here are my questions... 1) i�m going to be on foot and i�ll have my own shelter. know of any VERY nice spots to camp? it would be nice if they were close to a train station as i will have to hike to any sites you recommend! (i don�t mind walking a few hours to get to a good spot...) i want AMAZING scenery...that�s all...i don�t care how cold, windy or rainy it might be...just lead me to the sweet spots... 2) i heard about a mountain in scotland...supposed to be the tallest in the UK. and there�s supposed to be a nice campsite at the base of it. anyone know the name of this site? my friend who went there is a bit daft and can�t remember anything other than the spectacular view. 3) what kind of weather should i expect at the end of august? how cold will it get at night? 4) does anyone live in a particularly nice spot? would you mind if i came and pitched a tent on your lot for a night or two? 5) where are the good record shops in glasgow!! i�m looking for old jazz and old hiphop, particularly. a bit of 2-step as well. anything else that�s really worth checking out in the city? i�m going to be at the uni for a day and i wouldn�t mind taking some time to check out nice gallery or something. 6) do y�all eat eggs? (sorry...gravediggaz joke) please help me out if you can...reply privately to kshank at interlynx.net. thanks so much...take care...ketan ps. the subject is in reference to all of you who get to see the band out west. i'm from dundas, ontario and i'm pissed. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Interlynx Webmail. http://www.interlynx.net.net/webmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From schrasj at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 21:39:33 2001 From: schrasj at xxx.com (Graham LeBron) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:39:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello. SF? Message-ID: hey brandon, I have to disagree with you on PT from the SF airport. There are shuttles that take you to both CalTrain and Bart, right from the airport. Or you can fly into Oakland which has a huge cushy bus that takes you directly into the city, or a shuttle that takes you to BART. The Oakland airport is smaller and nicer and easier to deal with and just as close to downtown SF as the SF airport. so if you're flying in, please consider sunny Oakland. I love it. I will agree that any picnic should definitely be held in Golden gate park, but what part? as long as its not too near the hippie bongo players, I don't care. >good and simply artery traverser. I really like this sentence, but what does it mean? cheers and welcome, Golden Gram, the guy, the record http://www.goldengram.net/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Thu Aug 2 22:58:13 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (astrid.wiezell at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:58:13 Subject: Sinister: feeling worse than ever. seriously. Message-ID: <142023611@spray.se> Ok, I accept that they (stuart and friends) like to hang out at home. But I am sick with jealousy of all of you who´ll get to see them. If you are a fifteen year old girl from Sweden, it isn´t likely that you get to travel to Great Britain all alone to see belle and sebastian, I´ve handled it quite good I think. Just ignoring that they ARE touring and just don´t reading any reviews or anything. But now, USA? Brazil? Please, someone, just put a knife in my heart, for surely, it must hurt less than the knowledge that so many people has, and will, get to see them, will see Stuart, will be in the same room, and I won´t. Does someone know how to _not_ feel so sad about it? oh what´s the fucking point at all. loads of love. Astrid Ps. They were here 97 I think, but then, I was eleven and that wasn´t my kind of music then. ARGH! Ds. Ps2. I am also going absolutely mad about a girl that has been copying everything I do, for three years now! If I say some band is good, count that she´ll have bought all the records that band ever done when the day is over, if i say a like something maybe like a t-shirt she´ll buy it, just cause she is disgustingly rich. OH! Ds. _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 22:50:06 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: feeling worse than ever. seriously. Message-ID: <26907924.996789006691.JavaMail.imail@spike.excite.com> hello dears. astrid said: > > Does someone know how to _not_ feel so sad about it? > well, if you feel bad enough, you can be like me. get yourself a car, and, while having a day-long boycott of b&s because they're not coming to your town, fiddle with the travis cd in your cd player and sufficiently total your car when running into a large sign and neighboring fire hydrant, oh, four blocks from your house or so. now i feel sad about my car and air-bag-bruised body instead!! joy enuses and all is happy again with b&s!! ok, maybe i am being a bit *too* sarcastic about it. don't hurt yourselves over missing out. who wants to stand next to sweaty old people from the west coast anyway. me. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 22:56:23 2001 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Rachael Bristol) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:56:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello. SF? Message-ID: The SF picnic? Why it should definitely be held in Golden Gate Park. Somewhere near the Buffalo! Yes, there's a buffalo herd in the park. Wheeee! Rachael >From: "Graham LeBron" >Reply-To: "Graham LeBron" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Hello. SF? >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:39:33 +0000 > >hey brandon, > >I have to disagree with you on PT from the SF airport. >There are shuttles that take you to both CalTrain and Bart, right from the >airport. >Or you can fly into Oakland which has a huge cushy bus that takes you >directly into the city, or a shuttle that takes you to BART. >The Oakland airport is smaller and nicer and easier to deal with and just >as >close to downtown SF as the SF airport. so if you're flying in, >please consider sunny Oakland. I love it. > >I will agree that any picnic should definitely be held in Golden gate park, >but what part? as long as its not too near the hippie bongo players, I >don't >care. > >>good and simply artery traverser. > >I really like this sentence, but what does it mean? > >cheers and welcome, > >Golden Gram, the guy, the record >http://www.goldengram.net/ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Thu Aug 2 23:11:17 2001 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:11:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i once flew to SF (no flowers in hair was involved) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c11ba0$0e0b6670$e54318d4@tangents1> I too once flew into (and out of) SF airport (not oakland, sadly), from Palm Springs, California, and had no problems at all getting a bus into the centre of the city, from where it was but a hop (not even a skip and no jumps were involved) to our hotel opposite the gates of Chinatown. And if you need to get anywhere out of the centre I would say that the SF transport system is superb and cheap and recommended to anyone! We had a GREAT time in SF (this despite the fact that nearly all my SF friends were, ironically, in the UK at the time) and wish we were going to the shows there. And ummmm, anyone sad enough to care and who gets the bus back out to the airport may want to have a look at my 'leaving San Francisco' drawings on the Tangents gallery and see if you can recognise any of the things I've scribbled at speed and later embellished with Photoshop. Or not. Keep the faith kids, you know it makes sense... The duke xoxox Tangents the home of unpopular culture www.tangents.co.uk editor at tangents.co.uk po box 102, exeter, ex4 6za, uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Aug 2 23:38:54 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:38:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: (I won't get to) Go West Message-ID: Well, the board is just bustling these past few days with all the exciting talk of the West Coast dates (or the exclusion of the East coast). I don't think we should be angry or jealous or anything negative. We should just be happy that those in the Western US of A get to experience something as great as a Belle and Sebastian concert. Sure, I would love to go, but I have to work on my grades, so I can't. Plus, I'm sure they will eventually come around. They've been given a great gift, let them have it I say. Personally, I don't blame our favorite band from keeping trips to America short. I wouldn't want to come over here either. The disillusioned youth of America rears it's ugly head again. And I feel it is also necessary to give props to Mr. Robertson for having to deal with all us f***ed in the head psycho fans. I wonder how many death threats he has recieved...none from me of course. I saw Radiohead on Monday in "Hot"lanta. Did anyone else go? i saw a girl in the distance had a B+S shirt on. My B+S shirt sparked two completely separate conversations amongst the people standing around me, 50% of which I participated in. Some attractive girls saw my shirt and said "oh, he's got a belle and sebastian shirt on" and then started talking to some other guys about belle and sebastian. Then some other guys started talking to me about them, but I just nodded mostly and kept quiet..as usual. I wish I had jump suits and sunglasses like the Beta Band's drummer. That was awesome. And kudos to Kid Koala for sampling the Monty Python and the Holy Grail theme. The Virgin in New Orleans is having a big British Music celebration. On one of the racks was PJ Harvey. I thought she was American. I know she lives in England, but does that count? They also had the new Criterion La'venturra double disc set on sale (yipee!). I'm knee deep in Pet Shop Boys reissues right now, and I'm loving it! Only one left and my collection will be complete. All this talk of White Stripes prompted me to go order the album from my local record store. Don't let me down sinister. Is anyone going to the show in New Orleans in September? Somebody mentioned the Eels a while ago. Electro-Shock Blues is depressing, but I think it has an uplifting ending. It has some of the most depressing lyrics I've ever heard as well: "my name's elizabeth/ my life is piss and shit" Normally I cringe at such lyrics, but there's a certain dignity in the way they are done. That and he actually has a reason to be so sad. The Eels are better than most bands, and they don't try to sell records by exploiting depressed 16 year olds like most bands (stabbing westard has made THREE albums about the guy breaking up with his girlfriend). He also mentioned the song "It's a Monster-Trucker(that's really the wal-mart version I saw once)" and I just thought I'd add that I found out my (ex)girlfriend lied to me listening to that song. The point of this post was...hell. I forgot. I had one when I started, seriously. -matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 00:15:22 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:15:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: (I won't get to) Go West References: Message-ID: <001101c11ba9$0521aac0$7cc20340@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Henderson" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:38 PM Subject: Sinister: (I won't get to) Go West > I saw Radiohead on Monday in "Hot"lanta. Did anyone else go? i saw a girl > in the distance had a B+S shirt on. My B+S shirt sparked two completely > separate conversations amongst the people standing around me, 50% of which I > participated in. Some attractive girls saw my shirt and said "oh, he's got > a belle and sebastian shirt on" and then started talking to some other guys > about belle and sebastian. Then some other guys started talking to me about > them, but I just nodded mostly and kept quiet..as usual. > > I wish I had jump suits and sunglasses like the Beta Band's drummer. That > was awesome. And kudos to Kid Koala for sampling the Monty Python and the > Holy Grail theme. the girl with the ampersand shirt on? if so, i saw her too. i don't know about the drummer's glasses or haircut, but i'm all about flight suits. i can only hope they launder them each day, given all these outdoor shows. the poor boy was drenched, although that was a fairly nice night as summer in atlanta goes actually, i shudder to think what it *could've* been like. jay "do you like music? i know......everybody *says* they do" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astroboy at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 00:22:29 2001 From: astroboy at xxx.com (john barrick) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:22:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Off White Stripes? References: <20010802174414.65488.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B69E0B5.A157A808@cinci.rr.com> Nathan Walker wrote: > > Now, I just read an interview in the Detroit Metro > Times that quotes them as being formerly married. I > have a feeling they're being a bit convoluted for > sensationalism. I still love the band, though! If > you dig them, check out the Dirtbombs. Another > Detroit band that has the same attitude and are quite > close with the white stripes. > > - nathan > > --- philip boucher wrote: > > Hello > > > > >Now I'm assuming that they'll have other people in > > to play the other > > >instruments while they play guitar and drums... but > > I'd be really amused if > > >it was just the two of them on the stage in red and > > white. > > > > they dont, its just the 2 of them. > > > > >I was thinking about the way they refuse to tell > > people what their real > > >relationship is... perhaps they're just close > > friends having fun. > > > > they are brother and sister. > > > > just thought Id let you know. First post and all that but you don't really want to know about me. I have a coworker that's playing a gig with the Stripes this month and another one that's played a show with them in the past. According to my coworkers, they are neither married nor siblings. They were romantically involved at one time but are no longer. They do seem to enjoy the various speculations about their relationship. In the past, they've performed live as a duo. john barrick astroboy at cinci.rr.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 02:05:41 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:05:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Sandwitch Message-ID: <005f01c11bb8$6ee7c520$13b0893e@oemcomputer> That is nearly the name Hefner used when I told them to beat their record company with sticks for not letting them release The Sad Witch. They said... "> Re Sandwich as a single...unlikely even if we were to > beat Too Pure and ourselves to a juicy pulp...sorry." I thought this was wonderful. Also brings a new meaning to the song... "Breathing new life, into the sandwich". I also thought the nearly B&S dream I had a few days ago was wonderful too. I say nearly because it was actually about Nick Cave. I dreamt I was watching a round-up of the top selling single of each year, and guess who was on. Yes, out lovely Nick Cave was apparently the top-seller in 1991 with 'In the Ghetto', which he sang on the program. I was a little confused, since I don't think that single was released in 1991, though I could be wrong. There has been much talk of B&S t-shirts recently, and I'm sorry to say I don't own one. I have all the new pin badges... but no t-shirt. I don't really like the new ones. I do have a Candle Records (the lucksmiths label) t-shirt, and a Looper one though, as well as a lucksmiths badge, which would probably make me instantly recognisable as sinister anyway. To the person who mentioned Griffin and Sabine... wonderful isn't it. I got given it as a present by a fellow sinisterine (arstydeco again :)) and I love it to bits. Every sinisterine should get it, it's even more twee than B&S. And finally, the story you've all been waiting for... Paul Bearslice and the Wolf. And if anyone wants more Judy they can e-mail me for it. ******************stupidly twee story******************* Paul Bear-slice and the Wolf Paul Bear-slice was bored. It seemed like forever and a quarter hour he'd been squashing gently through the woods, and that's a long time by anyone's standards. Paul Bear-slice's glasses were rubbing the bridge of his nose and his blue striped, woolly jumper was beginning to itch. His mother had forgotten the money she normally gave him to buy sweets, so his pockets were empty, and his mood was flattened. If you'd ever seen a more unhappy child, it would have been in a bad Hollywood film, probably with Julia Roberts playing a hopelessly over-drawn, undiscovered, film-star-nurse. Paul Bear-slice kicked a large grey rock. The rock turned to him and growled. The rock was a wolf. "What are you doing kicking me like that?" said the wolf. "I thought you were a stone", replied Paul Bear-slice, indignant, though more than a little frightened. "I'm not a stone." "I'm not Jon Bon Jovi, but people kick me." As he spoke, the wolf's expression changed and her tone became friendlier. "Why do they kick you?" "They say I'm fat." he paused for a second, considering his answer, then added, "I'm not fat, my mum says I'm playfully chubby" "Do you say that when they kick you?" "Yeah" "And they kick you more?" "How did you know?" The wolf ignored his question and continued, "Do you think maybe it's better if you don't say that?" "I guess" The wolf looked Paul Bear-slice up and down and said, "You seem like a good natured enough lad, so I won't eat you." "Thank you Mrs" "It's Miss, Miss Wolf" "Thank you Miss Wolf" "There is no need to thank me" Paul Bear-slice started to leave, but Miss. Wolf stopped him. "You know, between the kicking and the gabbering, you never told me your name?" "My name is Paul Bear-slice" "Well Paul Bear-slice, you really should learn to live without your mother's help" "I don't know how" "I'll show you" And with that the wolf kissed Paul Bear-slice on the lips. He was shocked at first, but soon discovered that the sensation was pleasing, if a little hairy. It took a little while before Paul Bear-slice got used to having a wolfish girlfriend, and not until after the wedding that his family began to understand, but Paul Bearslice was happy. Paul Bear-slice and Andrea Wolf lived out the rest of their days blissfully, in Mrs. Wolf's log cabin. The End. ********* end of stupidly twee story ********** love you all (some less than the people I love more) Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 02:30:13 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:30:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: When I was nine years old I had a dream I would build diggers for a living but.. Message-ID: <61.115ca186.289b58a5@aol.com> .....YELLOW, AAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! please no more yellow. (at work) People have been talking about B&s T shirt's alot lately so I'll continue that with.. ...Comment's toward's James whilst whereing "Belle and Sebastian fashionwear" 1, Random girl in book shop said "that programme's shit!" 2,sister (in her 15 year old's infinate wisdom) came to the conclusion that I'm "Sooo Gay whereing that" 3,fashion victim sister also decided "the colour's don't even match the other top's you own so it's a waste of money". at least it's not ~yellow~ mind. Madeleine big thanQ for recommending The Fanclub, it's a fantastic place. couple of week's ago I was there totally blissed out, spralled acoss the floor, listening to Blondie's "Slow motion" and getting brief glance's of loose women's underwear, ooohh yes it was a good night indeed. So thanQ again. and then there's this picnic on in Newcastle? on the 18th? But where is Gray's monument?, are we still meeting there? Info on this picnic seems hard to come by but I really want to come cos I may have a car on the road after tommorrows driving test, infact I doubt I'll ever bee at home If I pass. Muffdiving makes you go bald, said Ray That really was a rather uninspired post but I thought I better say something more than "tell me about this picnic". TRIUMPH DOLOMITE'S WILL SOON BECOME highly desirable jewel's and become THE PREFERED FORM OF TRANSPORT FOR international PEOPLE of leisure LIKE ME. James. of Danson-Hatcher. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 03:56:18 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Why Not to get upset. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010803025618.7304.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Hello sinister, I was also informed that B&S will not be playing east coast dates. This may be for a variety of reasons so I am kinda thinking up reasons why not to get upset(even though i am not that upset). But both new order and Belle and sebastian only playing on the west coast still is kinda chilling. Oh well, but I believe both will probably be east next year so I am not overly upset. Here are the reasons why. 1. I was one of those people wise enough to see the Lucksmiths when they came around, so I am not completely deprived of witty twee pop. 2. There is no snow right now(I am from vermont). 3. They will eventually come, and I used to waiting even longer than three years to see a band, anybody who is a fan of the softies(they waited four years) knows that patience helps a great deal, because that is what makes concerts that much sweeter. So honestly I am not upset, they will remain one of my favourite bands. That and i am not a complete fanatic in that I do listen to other bands, and they have come around here east. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars The fog and the sunlight overshadow what is really the point sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Doyster at xxx.nz Fri Aug 3 06:43:07 2001 From: Doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark.) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 17:43:07 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Thank you one, thank you all, and thank you all the little people. Message-ID: Peter Carter Said:(of In the Ghetto, Nick Cave) > I was a little confused, > since I don't think that single was released in 1991, Yes siree, bob, confused is right. That little platter was released in 1985. And what a year that was aye? Was that message from the management some kind of cryptic message? B&S in Australia? But not New Zealand? Are they crazy? Am I crazy? Speaking of B&S and NZ, the godzone listees association had a kinda face to face on B&S day, I say kinda face to face cos some of us were kinda off ours! But it was at a fantastic hoolie put on by the one and only Scott Mannion, and featuring sets by some of AUCKLANDS real live rock stars. Lawrence Mikkelsen was there too. I must say it was a relief to be able to put faces to people off this list, it was also good to meet Mr Mannion cos I had bootlegged his band a few weeks ago and was wanting to track him down to give him a copy (so scott hit reply and we can sort it out). Now that we've got past the face to face thing (and the heebee geebee's of meeting people off the internet) we've got the makings of the southern most picnic in the world ever, except that it's the midst of winter here which makes for a bit of a chill,( and the penguins tend to steal yer sandwiches).what do ya say boys,(there are girls in NZ but they don't seem to be flocking to sinister, your guess is as good as mine). On another note, my sister is having twins in a few months and we were sitting talking about names, naturally I suggested Belle and Sebastian. But she wasn't very keen( she wasn't sold on Nancy and Lee either so I didn't even mention Sonny and Cher). I did have a friend once who had two rabbits called Stew and Casserole. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Aug 3 12:28:32 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (astrid.wiezell at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:28:32 Subject: Sinister: (I won't get to) Go West Message-ID: <142233418@spray.se> matt wrote: Well, the board is just bustling these past few days with all the exciting talk of the West Coast dates (or the exclusion of the East coast). I don't think we should be angry or jealous or anything negative. We should just be happy that those in the Western US of A get to experience something as great as a Belle and Sebastian concert. Sure, I would love to go, but I have to work on my grades, so I can't. Plus, I'm sure they will eventually come around. They've been given a great gift, let them have it I say. Personally, I don't blame our favorite band from keeping trips to America short. I wouldn't want to come over here either. The disillusioned youth of America rears it's ugly head again. Well ok. Maybe I shouldn´t be so angry. Now, I´ll try the very very nice-image: Congratulations to all of you out there who WILL get to see the world´s greatest band. Maybe they´ll come to Sweden too sometime. Ah, that wasn´t so hard. (Sorry to bother all of you again with all of my million posts) _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Aug 3 12:22:57 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (astrid.wiezell at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:22:57 Subject: Sinister: feeling worse than ever. seriously. Message-ID: <142229899@spray.se> Yeah. I know. All my friends are still on their holidays, so I haven´t got anyone to hang out with for the moment. So I spend my days watching tv, going to the library and loan books, and of course sitting here in front of the computer. Actually, It´s not as boring as it seems. HAve anyone heard of a canadian (?) comedian group - kids in the hall? I love David Foley, I think he is the funniest man alive. they re-run it now for like the third time, so I´m taping it all because I don´t think they will send it again. - Hecubus, pick a card.. - . . . No! - Pardon? - No! - Evil, evil, impolite and evil! If anyone knows which scene I´m talking about, which isn´t that likely, tell me. I think I´ve watched that one twenty times today ors omething. Oh my god. I am actually enjoying doing absolutely nothing with my three last weeks before the new semester starts and I´´m back in school. Oh well. Astrid _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 12:33:25 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:33:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it's been the ruin of many a po' boy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010803113325.89701.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> --- Matthew Henderson wrote: > > The Virgin in New Orleans is having a big British > Music celebration. On one > of the racks was PJ Harvey. I thought she was > American. I know she lives > in England, but does that count? They also had the > new Criterion > La'venturra double disc set on sale (yipee!). peej is indeed english - from yeovil, dorset to be exact .... although i'd heard she now lives in america (i could be wrong about this). her last album was certainly very american-influenced, though - she does a very good job of being patti smith on a lot of the songs, bless her. she's great. your mentioning of new orleans has made me all nostalgic for the place. i was there about 18 months ago and absolutely loved it. my ambitious plan is to go there for jazzfest sometime, but i'd need to rob a bank first. Criterion La'venturra double disc set? que? rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - Groucho Marx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 12:36:11 2001 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simes) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:36:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: storytelling with scotish superstars Message-ID: <200108031136.EAA23443@mail21.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 13:18:04 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:18:04 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: greetings fellow sinsterinees. firstly, >HAve anyone heard of a canadian (?) comedian group - kids in the hall? I too love Kids in the Hall, and spent a good number of months running around and up to business men with forefinger and thumb raised, before saying 'I am crushing your head' in a silly accent. Oh, the fun of it all. Secondly, if anyone's read the news recently about that ealing car bomb explosion, well, that was three streets away from me. and i had only returned home about half and hour before it detonated. Phew. It's my first bomb (shall we say) experience since i've been in England. Talk about action and drama. Or 80s Madonna (for all you pop pickers out there). 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Fri Aug 3 13:51:20 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:51:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! References: <00b301c11aa5$02f63360$4b04fd3e@neil> Message-ID: <001501c11c1a$ff4c4340$56084ad1@udrtg> You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian Pennington have been few and far between. I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil Robertson pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their fans have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't that cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for festivals, and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered with a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a good excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because you spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing (without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of us who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the good people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States and Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of convenience for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was not a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in the teeth. Just to get things straight. This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. -Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Robertson" To: "sinister" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! > I'd better stop yous there. > Don't read anything into there being a gap between the West Coast and > Brazil. > We're going home in between. There will be no East Coast shows. > There is one more West Coast show to be announced. We haven't finalised it > yet, and I wanted to get the rest of the shows on sale. > > Just to get things straight. Three years ago we played some shows on the > East Coast. Now we're doing some on the West. > We will be back in the East soon enough. For the moment though, there's > loads of other places we've never visited. > The people of Japan, Australia, Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, Chile, > Portugal, Nothern Ireland, Iceland and Denmark, for example, have never had > a visit, and they must be ahead of New York in the queue. > > My apologies to the good people of Philadelphia and Toronto, who I think > have a right to be disappointed. We owe you one (at least), but to come to > the East and only do these two would be hard to justify. > > We've got some catching up to do, but we're making decent progress, and > we'll be round again as soon as we can. > Sorry about that. > Please bear with us. I appreciate your patience. > Cheers, > > Neil > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 14:12:41 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 14:12:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! Message-ID: Christ, you'd think that B&S were going to bomb any cities they weren't playing in. They aren't a Public Limited Company and "we", the self appointed fans, have no reason to dictate their behaviour. So we buy their records, doens't give us a mandate to have a go at them or the management. I just hope the next months on sinister aren't full of more and more people complaining about this because it is about to get tedious.... >From: "Julie" >Reply-To: "Julie" >To: >Subject: Re: Sinister: Rule it out! >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:51:20 -0400 > >You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian >Pennington have been few and far between. >I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, >because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil Robertson >pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. >Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their fans >have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't that >cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they >were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for festivals, >and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on >end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered with >a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half >assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a good >excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an >east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because you >spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing >(without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking >martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of us >who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting >for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, >but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the >presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the good >people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States >and >Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure >everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking >Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & >Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of convenience >for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is >fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was not >a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in >the teeth. Just to get things straight. >This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage >I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. >Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. > >-Julie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Neil Robertson" >To: "sinister" >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:14 PM >Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! > > > > I'd better stop yous there. > > Don't read anything into there being a gap between the West Coast and > > Brazil. > > We're going home in between. There will be no East Coast shows. > > There is one more West Coast show to be announced. We haven't finalised >it > > yet, and I wanted to get the rest of the shows on sale. > > > > Just to get things straight. Three years ago we played some shows on the > > East Coast. Now we're doing some on the West. > > We will be back in the East soon enough. For the moment though, there's > > loads of other places we've never visited. > > The people of Japan, Australia, Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, Chile, > > Portugal, Nothern Ireland, Iceland and Denmark, for example, have never >had > > a visit, and they must be ahead of New York in the queue. > > > > My apologies to the good people of Philadelphia and Toronto, who I think > > have a right to be disappointed. We owe you one (at least), but to come >to > > the East and only do these two would be hard to justify. > > > > We've got some catching up to do, but we're making decent progress, and > > we'll be round again as soon as we can. > > Sorry about that. > > Please bear with us. I appreciate your patience. > > Cheers, > > > > Neil > > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper >+-+ > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" >+-+ > > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 >+-+ > > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 >+-+ > > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 >+-+ > > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa >+-+ > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Freeman at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 14:37:36 2001 From: Paul.Freeman at xxx.uk (Freeman, Paul(M&G)) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:37:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mick Cooke's blowin ponies Message-ID: <61D759435A42D211864900805F8B95ED0673FF2B@duvall.bod.ppm.com> Total agreement with Paul Arathoon An extended trip to the east and west coast last year became a no contest between east and west san Francisco and La won hands down when it came to twee and rock and roll. west coast 6 gigs in 6 nights Chicago 1 gig in 4 nights NY 0 out of 3 night and Miami 1 out of 5 and we really tried to find a gig in NY. NY has no scene whatsoever Anyway on to micks pony trick Mick is guest trumpeter on the new Telstar Ponies single (hurrah they have returned) haven't seen any mention of this on sinister yet oh ! it is pretty good and I think fairly limited How good are the lucksmiths live as I may be putting a gig on for them but have never seen them Paul bitterscene The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 14:39:27 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:39:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! Message-ID: i'm glad julie could articulate what i couldn't. maybe sitting around reading about all of these complaints isn't fun, but how do you think all of us felt sitting around reading about all the gig reviews? it was wrenching. i think the conclusion reached at that point, was if you didn't enjoy it, then don't bloody read about it. sinister is here for us to comminucate feelings with similar people, is it not? b&s are my favourite band, and its very hard to say anything negative about them, but neil's post was offensive. i don't expect the band to follow fans dictations, but the fact is they don't appear to care to much for us right now. i don't know what else to add...other than i second julies post. >From: "Paul Arathoon" >Christ, you'd think that B&S were going to bomb any cities they weren't >playing in. They aren't a Public Limited Company and "we", the self >appointed fans, have no reason to dictate their behaviour. So we buy their >records, doens't give us a mandate to have a go at them or the management. > >I just hope the next months on sinister aren't full of more and more people >complaining about this because it is about to get tedious.... > >>From: "Julie" >>Reply-To: "Julie" >>To: >>Subject: Re: Sinister: Rule it out! >>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:51:20 -0400 >> >>You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian >>Pennington have been few and far between. >>I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, >>because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil >>Robertson >>pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. >>Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their >>fans >>have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't >>that >>cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they >>were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for >>festivals, >>and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on >>end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered >>with >>a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half >>assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a >>good >>excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an >>east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because >>you >>spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing >>(without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking >>martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of >>us >>who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting >>for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, >>but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the >>presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the >>good >>people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States >>and >>Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure >>everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking >>Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & >>Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of >>convenience >>for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is >>fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was >>not >>a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in >>the teeth. Just to get things straight. >>This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage >>I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. >>Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. >> >>-Julie >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Neil Robertson" >>To: "sinister" >>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:14 PM >>Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! >> >> >> > I'd better stop yous there. >> > Don't read anything into there being a gap between the West Coast and >> > Brazil. >> > We're going home in between. There will be no East Coast shows. >> > There is one more West Coast show to be announced. We haven't finalised >>it >> > yet, and I wanted to get the rest of the shows on sale. >> > >> > Just to get things straight. Three years ago we played some shows on >>the >> > East Coast. Now we're doing some on the West. >> > We will be back in the East soon enough. For the moment though, there's >> > loads of other places we've never visited. >> > The people of Japan, Australia, Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, >>Chile, >> > Portugal, Nothern Ireland, Iceland and Denmark, for example, have never >>had >> > a visit, and they must be ahead of New York in the queue. >> > >> > My apologies to the good people of Philadelphia and Toronto, who I >>think >> > have a right to be disappointed. We owe you one (at least), but to come >>to >> > the East and only do these two would be hard to justify. >> > >> > We've got some catching up to do, but we're making decent progress, and >> > we'll be round again as soon as we can. >> > Sorry about that. >> > Please bear with us. I appreciate your patience. >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Neil >> > >> > >> > >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe >> > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >> > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper >>+-+ >> > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" >>+-+ >> > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 >>+-+ >> > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 >>+-+ >> > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 >>+-+ >> > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa >>+-+ >> > >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >> +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper >>+-+ >> +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" >>+-+ >> +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 >>+-+ >> +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 >>+-+ >> +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 >>+-+ >> +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa >>+-+ >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 14:52:04 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:52:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The states they're not in (EXCLUSIVE Brazil tour news) Message-ID: <007501c11c23$7b6c1b00$3900893e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, There was suddenly about 2339894 sinister e-mails, which is nice. Mostly about the US tour and the lack of it, well, I know the reason for this. Remember how Sturan played football on stage in Glasgow? Remember how Sturan played football outside RAH in London? Basically, Sturan just thinks that Americans are rather shite at football and so doesn't want to play there very much. That's why the band's playing in Brazil, for example. And, to quote Neil Robertson: >>The people of Japan... Italy, Norway, Greece, Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Northern Ireland .... and Denmark<< All the footballing nations! What more proof do you want?? There's a reason they didn't play in Wales... Also! I have received EXCLUSIVE news that, as a publicity stunt, Sturan's invited Ronaldo the Brazilian superstar player to play footie with the band at their Brazil gig! Since Ronaldo is currently doing fuck all with his free time, nice one Sturan! I hope the Brazilians B&S fans will take a photo of Sturan topless slide tackling Ronaldo whilst Isobel is showing her arse for 100 pounds (in weight). Also there are loads of people talking about a SF picnic, I think I should go to that, and I'll take my mates Ryu and Zangief along too. ho ho ho. (sorry) Street Fighters and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Can't wait til B&S to come to Milton Keynes once we've successfully bought Wimbledon FC (cos that's a grate football club...) P.P.S.: A car 5 metres in front of me spun out of control and flew off the road yesterday, it was quite exciting, it was just like "Police Camera Action". and luckily no one was hurt. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 15:01:11 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:01:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! Message-ID: I rarely post but I agree with this post by Julie. I have the opportunity to speak to a lot of B&S fans as I DJ an indie night in Toronto every Friday (Popscene) and the climate surrounding us B&S fans in Toronto is quite contentious. No one is impressed by this e-mail nor the fact that our city has been shafted once again. I am still a massive fan but it's so disappointing for me to see a lot of people grow weary with this band. Quite a few die-hards I've known have dropped the band altogether, citing musical shifts in the city and the lack of interest the band has in their fans. I would even travel to NYC if they were going to do one major city on the east coast. It's even a greater shame for Toronto because the indie fanbase for the first time in years is disappearing instead of swelling. I suppose this will be one band I'll have to miss out on live. ta, Chrissy --Extraordinary how potent cheap music is-- ***Noel Coward*** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Aug 3 16:04:54 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:04:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Chip off the old block Message-ID: The Scottish Sun, today Friday August 3rd, full page spread: "LARA CROFT IS ONE BELLE OF A GOOD SINGER" Scots band to team up with Jolie Brit-award winners Belle & Sebastian could have a stunning new singer in their line-up - Hollywood sex bomb Angelina Jolie. The busty Tomb Raider star is desperate to team up with the cult Scots band after hearing rave reports about the group from her hot-maker UNCLE. Legendary songwriter Chip Taylor - brother of Angelina's Oscar-winning dad Jon Voight - is Belle & Sebastian's No 1 fan. New Yorker Chip - who also penned Shaggy's worldwide chart-topper Angel - became firm pals with the group when they stood in as his backing band at a gig in a Glasgow church last year. Now he wants his movie siren niece to team up with them to record a version of his 60s classic Wild Thing, made famous by Jimi Hendrix and The Troggs. Last night Chip said: "Angelina is a very creative girl and I know she'd be a great success as a singer. "She has a fantastic spirit she inherited from her dad. Belle & Sebastian have the same kind of passion in the work. "I listen to their records all the time and they would be perfect for each other. "A version of Wild Thing would be mind-blowing and I'd help her all I could. "It would sum up Angelina perfectly and Belle & Sebastian would be the band to carry it off." He added: "I'm back in Scotland this month for a few gigs and I'll be seeing about trying to make it work". ... Side panel: The band hates publicity and their folksy, whimsical albums are recorded in a church hall where frontman Stuart Murdoch, right (* picture of Belfast Bob) works as a janitor. They ignore fashion trends and image, opting instead for their Jesus sandals, librarian v-necks and untended hair-dos. ... - Honey +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Fri Aug 3 16:05:30 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 17:05:30 +0200 Subject: Sinister: one of the most appreciated pop bands in the world Message-ID: <200108031504.f73F4iV17908@wn1.sci.kun.nl> okay that's it. i don't mind being called a female reproductive organ on #sinister, but i do mind if anyone is naming footballing nations and does not include holland. even though most dutch players play on the other side of the north sea now, they still count as dutch. i believe the reason that B&S do not play in holland is because they are afraid they'll get their asses kicked on the soccer field. howeverm, if they decide to play here, i'll promise to score no more than five times ;-) serious now: there was some discussion about B&S being a pop band. to me, they certainly are, and the subject line was the introduction of a documentary that was on the dutch tv a few weeks ago. it was about the indie scene in glasgow and was pretty good, though the only B&S member that said anything was isobel. she is quite cute (on tv). electro shock blues is quite brilliant, but i cannot listen to it sometimes because it's just too depressing. it makes me want to go to bed and not come out anymore. the same happens with that tom waits song on closing time, i think it's called lonely or something. very sad. i will press send, for a change. have a great weekend. get drunk. marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 16:11:57 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:11:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: let's all go to chicago Message-ID: <20010803151157.37665.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> hello you sexy thing. right, so I've been reading a lot of grumbling about no east coast/midwest tour dates. obviously, the problem is not the band but rather the fact that the united states (okay, and canada) is situated on a rather large continent. what we all need to do is band (heh) together to invent a sort of seimsic squeezer, whereby the two coasts will magically (or scientifically, if you prefer) come together. then, san francisco will be a scant 30 miles from new york! seattle will be right around the corner from boston! vancouver? why, just walk on over from toronto! this would of course require that we somehow get rid of the middle of north america, but I don't think anyone would mind that much. who needs iowa, anyway? I am a *bit* miffed that I won't be getting to see b&s... after all, I was living in london until a month before the british dates, and now that I'm back in the states I'm stuck on the wrong coast, but I'm not going to get all upset about it. I have the advantage of being in new york, and I hear that the band likes new york... in other news, I have discovered two (2) places that have kit kat chunkies for one american dollar. this has inspired me to pen the following: ode to a kit kat chunky o kit kat chunky not made out of a monkey but rather delicious chocolate and milk it's rather too bad I'm poor so I have to bilk the shopkeepers out of their candy but kit kat chunky makes me randy and they make me grow up which is why I love them so. I was also quite pleased to see the return of the angel blackwell, now with quite a normal non-sinister name. this is why I shall always remain: -eric the half a bee ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Fri Aug 3 16:14:36 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:14:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian bomb east coast - NYC, Philly in ruins Message-ID: <005d01c11c2f$032547a0$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> Hello Sinister Children, and at times, the children moniker is extremely appropriate. Paul went and said this: "Christ, you'd think that B&S were going to bomb any cities they weren't playing in. They aren't a Public Limited Company and "we", the self appointed fans, have no reason to dictate their behaviour. So we buy their records, doens't give us a mandate to have a go at them or the management" Hush Paul, no one likes logic being brought into an arguement. I don't mean to be harsh, but there's a reason a bunch of tossers say things like this about the list : "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans". Here's the thing, the band doesn't owe us a thing. No artist owes a thing to their fans or the public, that's how you end up with poxy Backstreet Boys albums clogging the system. No, if I was Stuart I'd lift two fingers to the air and say fuck it all and go curl up with a book and a pretty girl. Neil came off as a professional and decent minded chap who was letting us know not to get our hopes up for the east coast, which was fine and decent of him to do. He wasn't offensive in the least, and even apologized to the people of Toronto and Philly, while still pointing out that the band simply couldn't satisfy all their fans spread across the world. They're touring, some will see them, some won't. It also wasn't a press release, but an informal mail to the fans, so I really don't think he was out-of-line at all. Hell, maybe B&S *don't* like their fans (I seriously doubt that's the case, they probably do get a bit tired of the obsessives though), maybe they bloody well despise them. It doesn't matter. Why should it? If they put out music you like, brilliant. If not, find another band to obsess over. Christ, it's as bad as people bitching because they don't sound exactly like they did on Tigermilk anymore. I'm sure our List Honey has a bit of a headache from all this negativity already, so I hope poor Honey has a nice lay down and a cup of tea and is not too annoyed with us. Cheers Honey, we appreciate what you do for us, even when we are a bit unruley. My suggestion is to take a deep breath, step back and realize it's just a band that makes some nice music and not the center of your life (if it is the center of your life, seek professional help) and find a pretty girl or shy boy (whichever's your taste) and do many rude and heathen things with them. As I'm typing this bloody thing I look at my inbox to see: "Brit-award winners Belle & Sebastian could have a stunning new singer in their line-up - Hollywood sex bomb Angelina Jolie." That is nothing less than brilliant, if only because Sinister people all over the globe just shat themselves. Chip went on to say: "It would sum up Angelina perfectly and Belle & Sebastian would be the band to carry it off." Yes, Wild Thing probably is a perfect song for her, anyone who snogs her brother on TV and reports in a interview that she likes bringing knives into the bedroom...well, that song's right up her ally. "They ignore fashion trends and image, opting instead for their Jesus sandals, librarian v-necks and untended hair-dos." Are we talking about the same band then? That's just brilliant that is, even if the article turns out to be complete rubbish and just taking the piss. Be Sinister brothers and sisters... Jim "I haven't feel geeky or dumb since I was 17. I don't feel marginalised or outmoded and neither should anyone else in this thriving, multiplex society. When will successful, creative, intelligent people stop thinking of themselves as childlike outsiders and start engaging with the real high-stakes world? Wake up Fanboy! Wake up Fangirl! Do you want to rule the world? "- Grant Morrison +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 16:29:23 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:29:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Primrose August 2001 Message-ID: Hello my darlings, I know that this is a tad late and that Primrose Hill a week ago is so passe', but one has not yet had the opportunity to voice one's thoughts before given that one leads a high flying sort of lifestyle and had to jet off to Japan the day after the picnic. And we all know that there are no computers in Japan (ie., they cost about 1000 yen a minute to use). Furthermore, I don't want to join in the EastxWest debate given that I am one of the smug marrieds who has already seen B&S twice recently and will most probably see them twice in Brazil again. Well, what can I say that hasn't already been said? It was cool. No it wasn't, it was baking hot. But it was grate. Everyone was a lot younger than I expected and I was starting to feel old until a guy who reminded me of my dad arrived. My own personal highlights were pretend-playing the 4 string guitar, playing volleyball with the TOTP ball and the jam session with Sir Kenneth of Chu, Sinister Sex Symbol Extraordinaire, and the Born Again Christians (sounds like a name for a band). Ken and I got lost after that. Wow, what an honour. Everything that has ever been written about him is spot on. The man is truly a Sex God! The Ribena and sun combination was lethal. I was close to feeling seriously shit, but managed to narrowly avoid ruining it all. And I really thought at the time that no-one had noticed! Elena was a brilliant picnic mummy. Asm Walton was a lot younger than expected but a cool person and fabulous musician all the same. Sarah and Alex from Brixton were volleyball stars, Alex even managing to play while holding a drink in one hand. And everyone stared at you, Chris, not because you were late but because you brought Mc f***ing Donald's to the picnic! So a luvvly time was had by all. I loved it! Again, again! I want to play TOTPball again! I want to get pissed from a glass bottle of Ribena! I want to sing B&S tunes at the top of my voice with a load of people! I want to feed the world strawbs and cream! I want to see all those wonderful sinistrines again! I want to rub shoulders with Ken Chu! (only shoulders, though).I want, I want, I want! I'd like to suggest a picnic in August and another one in September before winter creeps up on us again. Or else we'll have to wait until summer 2002. Please, mummy, please! Then I won't envy the people picnicking in Golden Gate Park (which is truly a beautiful park and close to Amoeba records, where I chanced upon 3...6...9). So how about it? Please let me know. Lurve, Pris. "Dream your dreams with eyes wide open and make them come true" T.E. Lawrence (Oh! The joy of twee!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 16:43:18 2001 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: this is the end...... Message-ID: <18159746.996853398914.JavaMail.imail@sammy> Hey list, Im really bad at this sort of thing but i think its time i unsubbed from this list,its not because of anyone personnaly its just that i rarely have enough time to read it and having loads of posts building up in my box (oh er mises) was a bit much for me,so i've decided to leave & also i've been on the list a fair few years (2 and a half) and i think its time i moved on,in the words of many lovers 'its not you its me'. I've met some truely ace people on the list and would run through a grate list but that would take up too much time & it would make me upset,but you people know who you are,i hope so erm... Thanks!!! infact everyone on the list for putting up with my terrible posts during my time on this list,i'll still pop into #Sinister chat occasionally to catch up on whose snogging who etc etc. so thats it, Keep it sinister children bye, Dafyd xx _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 16:11:57 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:11:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: let's all go to chicago Message-ID: <20010803151157.37665.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> hello you sexy thing. right, so I've been reading a lot of grumbling about no east coast/midwest tour dates. obviously, the problem is not the band but rather the fact that the united states (okay, and canada) is situated on a rather large continent. what we all need to do is band (heh) together to invent a sort of seimsic squeezer, whereby the two coasts will magically (or scientifically, if you prefer) come together. then, san francisco will be a scant 30 miles from new york! seattle will be right around the corner from boston! vancouver? why, just walk on over from toronto! this would of course require that we somehow get rid of the middle of north america, but I don't think anyone would mind that much. who needs iowa, anyway? I am a *bit* miffed that I won't be getting to see b&s... after all, I was living in london until a month before the british dates, and now that I'm back in the states I'm stuck on the wrong coast, but I'm not going to get all upset about it. I have the advantage of being in new york, and I hear that the band likes new york... in other news, I have discovered two (2) places that have kit kat chunkies for one american dollar. this has inspired me to pen the following: ode to a kit kat chunky o kit kat chunky not made out of a monkey but rather delicious chocolate and milk it's rather too bad I'm poor so I have to bilk the shopkeepers out of their candy but kit kat chunky makes me randy and they make me grow up which is why I love them so. I was also quite pleased to see the return of the angel blackwell, now with quite a normal non-sinister name. this is why I shall always remain: -eric the half a bee ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 17:35:33 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:35:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Bay Area Message-ID: <3B6AD2D4.8E312038@netopia.com> Hello this is my first post and I am still in awe and shock that there are so many American, if not Californian, fans! I am still squeeling from the purchase of my tickets to the Belle and Sebastian show in Septmeber. How wonderful to see so many positive posts and all around niceness associated with Belle and Sebastian fans. Hope to meet some cool people at the concert. Maybe it will even top my all time favorite concert, Morrissey doing The Smiths tunes on his 1999 tour at Maritime Hall in SF. A Belle and Sebastian picnic would be so great! This is really the best thing I have ever discovered on the net! Keith +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 18:24:32 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Chim-Chim) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: how can it bee? Message-ID: <20010803172432.14840.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> How can it bee that those of us grumbling new yorkers haven't decided to meet up in our own private city and complain all together? *wink wink nudge nudge* my friend actually said the word "wink" out loud last night instead of doing the action. it's highly effective much love alice virginia p.s. longer post coming when in a more philosophical mood and hands are not so *^&%%$ freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezing! ===== "the best damn minigolfer out there" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 18:59:10 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:59:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: YoU thiNk iF yoU weRe beaUtiFuL yoU'd Be hAppY? In-Reply-To: <3B6AD2D4.8E312038@netopia.com> Message-ID: <20010803175910.86524.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> hello the sinistericals! How are you all petals? I hope all good and dandy! the Reason I'm wRitting is because, first, you lot flooded my pooR yahoo account, second the "oh!the joy of twee!" sign off in a post made me even more nauteous that the heat's already made me and you know keeping things bottling inside is no good foR you! no siR! I've said it before and i'll say it again... if those twee gits lived in the 60s they'd be bloody hippies... and like the Mighty Pistols said "never trust a hippy" and before you say anything... the belles covered "pretty vacant", so ner! and the Primals said it even better "kill all hippies"... so I'm completely covered here... not that I'd need any cover really... isn't that youR idea of demo(n)cracy? and third (and very impoRtant) I want to say that I completely second Paul ARathoon in what he said... way to go Paul!! I know I owe you a mix-tape ages now... sorry... if you still want it lemme know... well, things aRe simple... the belles are not so keen in playing in the states... that's all... but because they'Re a PoP band they have to... to be honest, if i was in a band, i wouldn't like to play in the states either... and i wouldn't like my aRtwoRk to be exhibited in the states eitheR... for reasons that have to do with social consience... that doesn't mean i hate americans, no... there are certain exceptions that alas, they justify the rule... but there are... but i won't fag you with all that now... and the Belles are a social conscious band... they're also a pop band... so they have to play in the americas... it's the way things work... When they announced their tour dates in europe, how do you think I - and many others - felt? they've never been here... and i mean ever... and they do sell a good lot of records here, mind... so, i saved money and went to the UK... and saw them three times... and yes, i know that's not possible for everyone... i guess it's a matter of priorities... and mood... I don't think Neil's post was offensive, not in the slightest... if it was then when they announced the UK and Spain gigs, the rest of europe should have felt really insulted... we didn't... ok, we might have sulked a bit, but hey! we enjoy sulking... and if you have noticed, the UK tour didn't include loads of big cities in England, like Manchester for example and many others which i cannot remember on the top of my head now... it's their bloody right to play wherever they want... and if they don't want to give another gig ever, again is their right... as it's our right to buy their records or spit on them... it's a package really... either you take it or leave it... Oh and I forgot... they never played in Russia... they never mentioned Russia in their future tour plans!! fucking hell!! now what the russian people should say? I guess they wouldn't afford the tickets to the gig anyway... shall we blame globalisation for that? mmmm i wonder... KenKenny, I loved the footy explanation... it all makes sense now, indeedy my little braties... it all makes sense... and with that ladies and gentlemen you may take your leave... (as Kevin R. would say...) hugs + full moons + lovers on the roof Vel xxx "WaR is the last possible cReative act..." IF ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 19:31:12 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:31:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sinister: ou est le chat? Message-ID: Hi peeps Sorry to just post with a random query, but when it comes to Friday afternoons (or Friday evenings like this one when I'm waiting to meet my friend off the train) I'd like nothing more than to pop into #sinister and have a blether with you all. Except I can't seem to get into the goddam place! I've been into IRC and keyed '#sinister' to no avail! Can someone wap-enabled (or whatever the latest terminology is) please post on how to get in. A thousand thanks, Miss Ho the Hodottir PS - shocking news about Angelina Jolie joining for a sing-song. If she can sing as well as look pretty and be the perfect Lara Croft, I'm a dried-out lip gloss. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 19:39:26 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:39:26 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: The states they're not in (EXCLUSIVE Brazil tour news) In-Reply-To: <007501c11c23$7b6c1b00$3900893e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20010803183926.18550.qmail@web3407.mail.yahoo.com> I shouldn't be answering a post like the one I've just read, but I couldn't help it. Of course the reason B and S is coming to Brazil is not because of our soccer. Indeed, soccer nowadays here is getting worse every day. And if you keep thinking like that, "dear" Ken... improve your soccer or call their attention someway. Sorry for those who have nothing to do with that, but I thought the comment was really offensive. Daniela - from one of the nicest places in the world. --- Ken Chu escreveu: > Hello, > > There was suddenly about 2339894 sinister e-mails, > which is nice. Mostly > about the US tour and the lack of it, well, I know > the reason for this. > > Remember how Sturan played football on stage in > Glasgow? > Remember how Sturan played football outside RAH in > London? > > Basically, Sturan just thinks that Americans are > rather shite at football > and so doesn't want to play there very much. That's > why the band's playing > in Brazil, for example. > > And, to quote Neil Robertson: > >>The people of Japan... Italy, Norway, Greece, > Argentina, Chile, Portugal, > Northern Ireland .... and Denmark<< > > All the footballing nations! What more proof do you > want?? There's a > reason they didn't play in Wales... > > Also! I have received EXCLUSIVE news that, as a > publicity stunt, Sturan's > invited Ronaldo the Brazilian superstar player to > play footie with the band > at their Brazil gig! Since Ronaldo is currently > doing fuck all with his > free time, nice one Sturan! > > I hope the Brazilians B&S fans will take a photo of > Sturan topless slide > tackling Ronaldo whilst Isobel is showing her arse > for 100 pounds (in > weight). > > Also there are loads of people talking about a SF > picnic, I think I should > go to that, and I'll take my mates Ryu and Zangief > along too. ho ho ho. > (sorry) > > Street Fighters and Red Bulls > Ken > P.S.: Can't wait til B&S to come to Milton Keynes > once we've successfully > bought Wimbledon FC (cos that's a grate football > club...) > P.P.S.: A car 5 metres in front of me spun out of > control and flew off the > road yesterday, it was quite exciting, it was just > like "Police Camera > Action". and luckily no one was hurt. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 19:54:00 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:54:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Police, Camera - Action Ken! Message-ID: Hello Katy's flatmate's dog was feeling perky, so... >I even bought her a rubber toy... >I imagined that she could keep up to date on the latest in doggie >fashion... Really, the filth on this list is beyond belief. I used to think Angelina Jolie was sexy until I saw her dad, Jon Voight. They're identical! I looked at her in a whole new light after that. With mention of Voight's brother, Mr Chips, I think I've worked it out. Angelina is really Mr Chips - in drag! Every morning he slips on those magnificent magical boobs, that nylon wig and those reinforced panties, and becomes "Angelina". He lives the life of a *real* lady. A femme fatale! If only he had been born with the proper apparatus! But every night, after 'shooting', he hangs up his wig, puts his lips in a jar, and lets the cat curl up on those magical boobs he has just left sighing in the airing cupboard. Then he climbs into bed and wipes away a tear as he snuggles up to Billy Bob. He dreams of his days on Catchphrase, those glory days of fame, celebrity, rubber women and loose trousers. Or something like that. He wishes he could have those days again. Well maybe, with the help of 'Angelina' and that Scottish pop band he read about in Razzle, he can... Yes, maybe, just... maybe... If Belle and Sebastian are going to do Wild Thing, they could just stick Struan in a dress and get him to pout a bit. He's got the bum for it anyway. Sod the East Coast, what about Kidderminster? They have a fine football team. A spectacular multi stage venue (well someone could play on the steps out the back). Sure, the locals are probably easier to understand in Brazil, but whats the good of touring if you don't catch the local culture. Robinx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 19:26:44 2001 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:26:44 Subject: Sinister: + chicago emergency - can anyone help a girl out? + Message-ID: hey kids. my name is leigh. you've probably seen my posts at one point or another. i'm 22 from washington, d.c. and i'm in a bit of a jam right now. i'm in chicago right now and having a really nice time. however, today the boy whose house i am staying at informed me that his great aunt is sick with cancer [the end stages] and because he took off 7 days off work to show me around the city he won't be able to go be with his family next week. so he wants to go out to wheaton to see her + family tomorrow or sunday. so...this is where you come in. i need someone to kidnap me for a day so that dustin can go out to the suburbs and deal with this. if anyone is willing to hang out with me and give me some floor space to sleep on i would greatly appreciate it. supposedly i'm a lot of fun, so i wouldn't even be a bore. i came out here to see radiohead + to see the city. if you'd help, i'll make you a mixtape when i'm back in d.c. if you can't help and you know someone who can, then plz pass this mail along. thank you so much. lala, leigh just email me back here or lkelsey at gmu.edu or IM = madflowr _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Aug 3 22:08:40 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:08:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: trampled by lambs and pecked by the dove Message-ID: oooh everyone is getting so angry! i wanted to reply to all of the people grumbling about the north american tour but it seems like everything has been said now. if americans don't stop whining i wouldn't be surprised if we were never again graced with the presence of belle and sebastian at all. someone posted about #sinister and i can't seem to figure the thing out either. maybe that is because i am completely computer illiterate, but i would really like to be able to pop my head in and say hello. my parents finally noticed david's earring, and the first thing they said was "did kirsten tell you to do that?" i saw phish on a rerun of austin city limits last night and it was really odd because i hadn't heard them in well over a year and i used to go to shows all the time and trade little ink sketches for jewelry and beer. i lost interest in [dum da DUM] "The Scene" but they do have some clever lyrics. that's all from me. luv kirsten ps--oh goodness i just had an adorable idea...i would like to make little belle and sebastian sock puppets and then i can make them do as many shows as i want in my very own room and they will play all the songs i like the best because i will be pressing the buttons on the cd player. good lord i am creepy. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matt at xxx.uk Fri Aug 3 23:53:40 2001 From: matt at xxx.uk (matt at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:53:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B+S Ipswich gig remembered. References: <18159746.996853398914.JavaMail.imail@sammy> Message-ID: <003701c11c6f$276591c0$ca4587d9@default> A bootleg from the Ipswich sho has come into my hands. It's pretty good quality. Should I send it to B+S to see if they like it or do they record their own shows? And is it wrong to copy it? I met this guy at the show who was recording it (naughty boy) and I'm having mixed emotions (as it was a truely great show, especially when Jilted John did his thang and Isobel pogoed) but is it wicked not to share? Matt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Sat Aug 4 01:31:35 2001 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: "I don't want the world... I just want your half."* In-Reply-To: <20010716235247.22470.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: * I've been a wallflower since April... so at long last I'm stepping out with a shy smile and extended hand..... HELLO there. * ArtsyDeco chick mentioned David Byrne lately. Has anyone else seen the alien espresso cup set he's designed? They're fantastic! * Quite awhile back, Lawrence Mikkelsen mentioned his upcoming marriage and was soliciting ideas for the song that was to replace the traditional "Here Comes the Bride" bit. Did you ever find one, Lawrence? I was thinking that Edith Piaf's "Non, Je ne Regrette Rien" could be an interesting choice... on several different levels... * I think you all might enjoy this CD that I've found recently, a compliation called "Pop Romantique." It's a bunch of different bands (Heavenly, Ladybug Transistor, Magnetic Fields...) who have done French pop tunes. There are lots of tambourines and happy organs (ooooh - no comments on that one). There's even a Bob Dylan remake. * Also, check out The Aluminum Group. I just ordered their CD "Plano" and it's interesting. It's at www.mintyfresh.com. * I saw a band a couple of weeks ago called Man or Astroman. They play surf rock, wear spacesuits and goggles and show Super 8 movies on screens that surround them. But the most impressive thing is that they light stuff on fire. One of their "songs" was comprised entirely of the sounds of an old dot-matrix printer in draft mode, printing out a file they had created beforehand. All three Astromen stood around it nodding or waving their hands conductor-style. Very entertaining. * Is anyone reading "Mary George of Allnorthover" by chance? Mine's an uncorrected proof and I feel compelled to find out the year on page one... mine just reads "197-." * The Things she Wrote at the End of her Note: TO: Rob Butler, who asked about good lounge music: Try some Les Baxter or Martin Denny. There's also a very hip compilation called "The Easy Project - 20 Loungecore Favorites." TO: Laura Llew: You're right, Dorothy Parker is infinitely more lovely than her portrayal on the postage stamp. What were they thinking??? At least they didn't ruin my Louise Nevelson ones. Also, any news on the winner of the mix tape competition? love from, Jenny (the wallflower) *TMBG +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 03:56:31 2001 From: MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com (MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:56:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Hello.... Message-ID: Alright, if everyone will please just bear with me for a moment because I've never posted before and I have no idea how. And I have horrible spelling..... Anyway, will someone please tell me whats going on with the Warfield shows? I tried getting tickets for the Saturday show but they were sold out. Now I look in the paper today and it says that B&S tickets go on sale on Sunday. I ended up buying tickets for the Sunday show but its really a bad day since one of my friends can't go and I'm going to have to sneak out of the house that night and I WILL get caught and I'd prefer to keep things smooth with my parents. So if someone would kindly e-mail me and tell me that I've only missed out on some sort of pre-sale and I will indeed be able to get tickets for the saturday show I'd be eternally grateful. And if that is the case and I get tickets (oh please oh please oh please let me get tickets) then I've got 3 tickets to the Sunday show to sell. Leah Also did someone say something about a Montana picnic??? Because I'm going to Montana on Thursday....... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Aug 4 05:20:32 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 16:20:32 +1200 Subject: Sinister: stop your incessant moaning, North Americans (this includes Candanians) References: <200108031854.TAA25267@missprint.org> Message-ID: <001501c11c9d$a84630a0$326137d2@computer> hello folks whilst I sympathise with all the East Coasters & Canadians who have been moaning ad nauseum about the lack of gigs in said places, it does grate. As Neil so wisely said, there are a hell of a lot of places where B&S haven't been AT ALL. I mean, for heaven's sake ... at least Belle & Sebastian have been to your HEMISPHERE. Take pity on the people who live in places nowhere near where B&S have played. Like New Zealand, and Australia. (Neil's e-mail bought a glimmer of hope to me .... if B&S play Australia I will *definitely* take time off work and fly to Australia to see them ....) ***** rant over ***** I haven't posted in a long time. This is mostly because my grandmother died about a month ago, almost four months to the day my granddad died. sure, it's hardly "a heartbreaking work of staggering genius" material, but I've been pretty down. I did actually write a post a few days afterwards, but elected not to send it because it was pretty bitter and twisted. she went into hospital with a minor stoke, wasn't terribly well cared for, fell out of bed and broke her hip, and died shortly afterwards, having been healthy and normal a few days earlier. (sigh) It's been kinda sad the last few weeks, sorting through all of her stuff (I'm her only grandson), throwing out a lifetimes' worth of accumulated possessions. news of a new Hefner album and single, and new B&S single and soundtrack keep me happy and sane right now. plus working, reading and not going out. well, hope all is well. will try to get back into the swing of things and start posting again Lawrence Mikkelsen PS - Nik Ovendon .... this is getting ridiculous :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 08:44:56 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:44:56 -0700 Subject: Sinister: She will make a beautiful fossil Message-ID: <013901c11cb9$5c276e20$bed656d1@pavilion> Back from a half-summer lost to find it's August. Does anyone know where I put June and July? Cos they were just here a minute ago.... wait.... did I put them down while I was on the phone walking to the bathroom? Well, they're gone now. Gurls make the time go by so quickly and so slowly, don't they? They take your time and shake it up in the cups of their hands and put it back in your lap and you don't know quite what happened. You'd think the constant repetition of the 2nd Tindersticks album would slow things along. But no. August comes in without even knocking. Things I haven't got around to mentioning in the past 3 months: *After first realizing, like almost everyone else, that Jonathan David was an awful song with miserable vocals, I correctly some weeks later realized that it is one of the nicest songs they've done lately. Sparkling singing, heartbreakingly hopeful story, inspired video (from what I could see via my choppy-ass 56 modem). And I don't think the guitar solo on Loneliness is exactly a flaccid unit. It's there if you listen. Is there anyone else out there who adds the phrase "On the tube" after "When we're on stage..." when singing along? I didn't think so. *Stephen Malkmus's solo album is growing on me. I'm fronting a Pavement cover band here in Santa Barbara at the moment, so of course I'm partial to his stuff with them, but I think I actually like the Stephen album better than Pavement's final one. *I'd like to announce that Hannah is the sweetheart of sweethearts, according to my calculations. The two homemade B&S t-shirts that she sent me were definately early stuffers of my stocking, if you'll forgive the disgusting imagery. Unabashed public thanks to her doll-like ways. *Anyone compiled the lyrics to the Peel Session yet? The only thing I can't get is the line in "My Girl's Got Miraculous Technique" (which is the best song of the lot) which sounds like "Pee-pee, I made a bill" and comes right before "I got my clothes dry cleaned.." Any ideas? Hell, maybe it IS "pee-pee i made a bill". *I've got my L.A. tickets and am working on San Fran. Sorry to all those in other parts of North America for feeling bad that they don't get a show. We're just in the right place at the right time. It's an up-side to living in California. The down-sides are sunny balmy weather, wide beaches, members of the opposite sex walking around wearing very little clothing.... wait-- never mind. (It's always touchy, though, debating whether an artist owes anything to those who appreciate his art.) You gotta figure that he's given us a lot more than the average fuck you pass on the street. *Kirsten: Your sock puppet idea was sick indeed, but marvelously lovely too. *In the "Whither Goest Thou?" department: Joan of Dark, List Dom Lisa??? Mixing memory and desire, perchance? *Pray for some new tee-shirt designs on the West Coast tour. I haven't forgotten and you haven't forgotten Let's forget together someday These days I remain, ~Brier www.brier.homestead.com "And I squander your love, it's the biggest kick I ever got." -Tindersticks . +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 20:09:55 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:09:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: helps me find james joyce, she always makes the right choice Message-ID: <000b01c11d19$260a9460$5417073e@aqlzosqt> dear misfits and missprints, i've just read 7 digests after doing a job application and feel drained. but if the application is successful i'll be working in a library again like a proper twee girl. (hence go-betweens subject line - any excuse.) speaking of libraries, i've read some books. one was the wrong boy by willie russell, which i would unhesitatingly reccommend to any b&s fan, especially if they happen to be a morrissey fan as well, but even if they're not it's touching, funny and most likely meaningful to a bunch of bedroom saddo devotees like your good selves :) i do regret missing the picnic last saturday, especially the recorder playing. but i did invent a very advanced game of frisbee with two frisbees in play simultaneously, so the day wasn't entirely wasted. i've also been swimming in the sea every day this week (well except for today as it was a bit nippy) and how many londoners can say THAT? not many, unless they have very long arms or strange commuting arrangements. will any listees be going to the vancouver show? i only ask because i'm still wavering between going to canada alone for adventure type things in september, or going to italy for sun and beauty type things. if there are vancouverines (?) who fancy showing me round, coming to the gig, putting me up and perhaps giving me their first born child, it could sway the balance... i may visit york for a weekend soon too, so the sinister yorvik massive will have to come out and let me get nostalgic. up the wooden stairs to bedfordshire... luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 16:11:04 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 16:11:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Posts for children (EXCLUSIVE info on how to get onto #sinister) Message-ID: <006b01c11cf7$aed6d820$4645893e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I am very sorry for all the trouble I caused. I think I wasn't feeling very sane because I thought I heard on the news that the Queen Mother has got "Amnesia", and then I woke up in cold sweat and realised that she (probably) hasn't. Hence why I was talking such disgustingly disrespectful rubbish in my last post. I deserved some dissing. but let's get one thing straight... marc "fallopian tube" bots said: >>i don't mind being called a female reproductive organ on #sinister, but i do mind if anyone is naming footballing nations and does not include holland. even though most dutch players play on the other side of the north sea now, they still count as dutch. << As much as I can appreciate Holland is a footballing nation, unfortunately I have already mentioned Holland in a sinister post about one year ago, think of all the other footballing nations who I haven't mentioned such as um.. Saudi Arabia and Faroe Island. You must wait your turn. Disclaimer: I was only joking. Oh, and the Red Bull Dozers ( http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd ) just told me to pass on the following information: >> If you happen to live in a place where B&S are not playing, fear not, as for the mere price of a flight ticket, the mighty Red Bull Dozers will come and play a gig for you instead! Apparently the guitarist can do the guitar solo on Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner too<< So there you go, problems solved. Except they also mentioned that you'd have to live in a nation which is big on juggling, so if you live in a place with big balls, you're in. Serious bit now: How to get onto #sinister (the easy way) =============================== 1. Go to http://www.undernet.org/webchat.php 2. Click on "connect" 3. Say ok to install blah blah chat plug in for your browser. 4. Enter a nickname (e.g. "kensexgod") 5. by default you'll be put into the channel #newbies, so leave that channel by typing /leave #newbies 6. join the channel #sinister by typing /join #sinister 7. If you see someone called @auntwendy, you're probably in the right place, chat away! You can also use a better chat program (e.g. one called mIRC), basically, you have to make sure you connect to "undernet" servers (the servers with names that end in .undernet.org), for example eu.undernet.org, and then just join #sinister. I'm full of exclusive info this week. That's why you all love me so much, or not. I better go and practice my back-heels. Stuff and Red Bulls Your dear maths teacher Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 19:18:06 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Read this shit...... Message-ID: <20010804181806.91820.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Someone posted this on the indiepop list. It's from nme.com .......... LAZY LINE PAINTER JOLIE? ANGELINA JOLIE is reported to be in line to join Scots indie popsters BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, according to press reports today. The Hollywood sex siren and blockbusting 'Tomb Raider' star is the niece of 'Wild Thing' composer Chip Taylor, and the veteran rocker told the Scottish Sun that she would be "perfect" for a collaboration with Belle And Sebastian. Chip, whose brother, actor Jon Voight, is Jolie's dad, said he will be playing match-maker when he is back in Scotland this month for a few gigs. "[Angelina] is a very creative girl and I know she'd be a great success as a singer. She has a fantastic spirit she inherited from her dad. Belle And Sebastian have the same kind of passion in their work. I listen to their records all the time and they would be perfect for each other." According to the newspaper, Jolie is "desperate" to team up with the band, who recently played a sold-out UK tour included a dated at London Royal Albert Hall. Taylor, who also wrote the song 'Angel Of The Morning' which was reworked by Shaggy for his chart-topper 'Angel', added: "A version of 'Wild Thing' would be mind-blowing and I'd help her all I could. It would sum up Angelina perfectly and Belle And Sebastian would be the band to carry it off. I'm back in Scotland this month for a few gigs and I'll be seeing about trying to make it work". Purely coincidentally, Taylor released an album in 1979 called 'Saint Sebastian'. Jolie's husband Billy Bob Thornton wrote three songs for her, 'Angelina', 'Your Blue Shadow' and 'Magic Of Love', although the latter was left off of his album, 'Private Radio', which is released in September. Belle And Sebastian, who play a headline set at the Benicassim Festival in southern Spain this weekend, were unavailable to comment. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Sat Aug 4 20:20:06 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Zen and the art of music fanship Message-ID: <20010804192006.A2B6036F9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mouser at xxx.net Sat Aug 4 20:12:48 2001 From: mouser at xxx.net (Shawn and Emily) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:12:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: 2nd LA show on sale References: Message-ID: <008a01c11d19$73888800$e3546940@7b74c01> Hi Everyone. I've not heard anyone mention it, but there has been another Los Angeles show added on the 5th, the day BEFORE the previous opening date. Tickets are on sale now thru www.ticketmaster.com . Hope you'll join me out there, Shawn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sun Aug 5 00:29:21 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 00:29:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: don't you want me? Message-ID: Hello, I thought I'd mail again before my existence was forgotten. I went to see some bands last night. They were Pram, Future Pilot AKA, and The Jimmycake. The Jimmycake are a local band, playing loud avant music with lots of people onstage. Very enjoyable. They have a record called "Brains" which is likeable but less hardcore. Future Pilot AKA meanwhile reminded us of early Cornershop - shambolic can-do multiculturalist rock. The way the vocalist's accent kept drifting between Glasgow, Jamaica, and Bangalore was endearing. Aren't Pram also Scottish? They're not unlike Broadcast and can be liked in the same way, even though they've been going much longer. One of them played a really strange looking synthetic instrument which made lovely wibbly noises. I'm really taken by the Angelina Jolie singing with B&S thing, though I bet the band are too afraid of her to let it happen. Harry Hunt asks "Isn't there somewhere in Ireland that you can buy a horse for a fiver, and all the ned/spydes on the council estates have one, and call it Prince? (The one called Sheba died)" There is such a place. I live ten minutes from it. It's brilliant, mangey ponies for half nothing. Every house needs a horse. What is great is if you walk around there when the fair is over and all the creamers are racing home on their new mounts. It's like Genghis Khan's army have invaded. Peter Carter commented ages ago that Isobel Campbell is carefully cultivating a false image of cute innocence when in fact she is a saucy little pop vixen. But the more recent Gentle Waves stuff I've heard (say 'Sister Woman' and 'Fall From Grace') sounds kind of raunchy, albeit raunchy with la-la-la-la-la-la vocals. So where does that leave your theory? The Pinefox has started claiming that Deacon Blue are not completely rubbish and implying that they are a bit like Belle & Sebastian. The Pinefox is surely taking the piss. Deacon Blue are awful - Marxist science proves this. I remember when they had a big hit with 'Real Gone Kid' and wish I didn't. Sacharine sickbag music of the worst sort. And their covers of Bacharach & David songs were enough to put me off those great songs for a decade. So no more Deacon Blue. A-a-a-a-ages ago Lucy Adler teased me with a subject line: "Bel sings Billie". And it wasn't about how the Gentle Waves were doing a cover of 'Because We Want To' or 'Honey to the Bee', it's just boring Billie Holiday. very disappointed. I'm listening to Laibach at the moment. does anyone else know them? I'm trying to think what B&S song they'd be most likely to cover. It's a tough one... I'd say B&S songs have so many words that Mr Laibach Vocalist's throat would have been coughed up by the time the song had finished. 'Der Stadt bin Ich in' could be amusing. All your talk of picnics has made me think of more ways to indiefy my life. Currently Rener and I are talking of flying over to sunny London in late August to go to Track & Field. Anyone fancy any picnic action around then? and now it's time to go. bless you all. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Sun Aug 5 06:07:54 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 01:07:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Isobel is about as saucy as dry toast, only less saucy Message-ID: <20.1a3712b3.289e2eaa@aol.com> Hello all, some briefish, vaguely non-earthshaking things... A Mr. Timothy has given me a splendid idea for the mixtape of sinister proportions, (to be titled: It's Where We Live) not only music mentioned on sinister, but music created by people ON sinister. If you make music (good music only please, but I tease...nevermind) and think putting it on my mixtape would be at least mildly pleasant, let me know and we'll make arrangements. C'mon struggling musicians, give me your dreams. And a plea: Please have a picnic in August. If at all possible sometime after the 25th. Why you ask? Because I'll be there and on my list of life goals going to a sinister picnic is pretty up there, hovering around being a sentient being and finding out that Alex Trebek's mustache is fake, then ripping it off. Ha.ha. That's all for me for now, I should get some sleep resembling stuff. I won't, but I should. Love and tasty food (what could be better?) Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Sun Aug 5 15:08:21 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:08:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sympathy for the drivel. Message-ID: <20010805140821.74096.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> ouch, recently I have become a sympathy-monger. dealing it out. receiving it. mostly receiving it. with my own style of horrendous whining about things that have happened to me. lately. I won't bore you with ALL the details. I'll bore you with a synopsis. I got ill a day before my parents left for a two week holiday far away. my brother had moved out of the family home the week before and I was all alone to mope about and cope with my first genuine illness [save colds and flus] in years. a week after my parents had gone I went to the doctor and he told me it was tonsillitis. which doesn't really sound that bad. but it hurt. I promise. the same day as finding out that I had tonsillitis and getting prescribed some anti-biotics, I went to the dentist. although I almost didn't. I got out towards where my dentist practices and I went into some kind of auto-pilot mode and turned to head for glasgow. only when driving up the slip-road onto the motorway did I realise where I was...where I should be. I drove for miles to be able to exit and turn around and get back on then exit and be where I had been fifteen minutes earlier. so I exit and turn around and get back on and almost end up where I had been fifteen minutes earlier. but, instead, I drive into the back of another car at a junction. now. I wasn't not looking and, like, assuming that he had driven off. it was, like, I wasn't looking and he, that guy, he must have gone...because he had so much time to be able to go. okay. so it was like I wasn't looking and assumed he'd driven off. it was like it. I've never been in a proper accident before. except when I went around a corner once and ended up with the vauxhall nova I was driving on its side. but that doesn't count. the man I hit was english and very friendly and understanding. he took all my details and gave me all his and patted me on the back. [I looked ill and shocked, he was being sympathetic]. I went to the dentist. he looked at my teeth for thirty, or so, seconds and said 'perfect teeth'. I wish I hadn't gone to the dentist. a synopsis has to be brief? but I've had joy too. the night of the day of the doctor/crash/dentist, I went to see a band in glasgow called stabiliser. that was real fun. and there was nice company and we had some nice jokes made. and I stayed at my brother's flat. we get on much better now that we hardly see each other. then, the next morning, I got to show a lovely greek lady around glasgow. I'm not sure how much of a good job I did. but it was fun. dimitra [the lovely greek lady] could barely understand a word I said at first, but soon we were communicating quite well. unless all that nodding was just out of politeness. I showed her some nice places that I could think of. I'm sure there are a lot of nice places I couldn't think of. but we ended up, later on, in bacchus drinking orange juice and drawing maps on the backs of flyers with coloured pens while being serenaded [until the interruption by the final night of 'big brother'] by a selection of music from the king of partick's collection. that was fun. I enjoyed it. I took my anti-biotics. then, the next morning, I got to go to north berwick via edinburgh for a picnic. again there was nice company and some nice jokes made. I had a nice bottle of wine. I postponed my anti-biotic intake especially. I had shorts for the beach but never felt inclined to exchange my trousers for them. I was aurally assaulted in 'the golfer's rest'. but I won't mention that again. in this post. we went back to edinburgh and walked around and were told where people used to work. for most of the time. gordon found a tramp to chat with on the high street. and sweetie finally got her obligatory snog of the evening. andrew got a snog too. I got on a train and went home. oh. with two lovely cassettes that had been made gifts of to me. thanks. and william and gordon displayed some fun photos of the day on the internet. which is fun. I had a story about a bathroom, a fly, a copy of 'moby dick' and a spider in the bath. but that's about the extent of the story. so. when I originally considered posting again I wanted it to be called 'the dean and I' and for it to be all about extolling the many, wonderful virtues of that rumpled romeo dean friedman. but I thought it might put people off reading anything else I ever wrote in the future. although, I had some funny things to say about the dean. and I. [late] on saturday the fourteenth of july, breanne l. day at seductive_b at yahoo.ca said: 'red bull and vodka'. I would tend to agree. still no posts about benicassim? I heard they played two new songs. and that they were nice. I could go on... but I won't. okay? I just wanted to add some variety. some contrast to the fleeting reply-to-a-reply[-to-a-reply] posts. or the ones that mention some gigs. I don't know about how to choose where to play gigs. as I gave up playing the violin a long time ago; I doubt I'll ever have to face such a dilemma. time to get comfortable. thanks for all the sympathy, sure. now I aim to get some pity. I have a lot of drawings I have to do...ugh. yes, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Sun Aug 5 15:24:21 2001 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise Lee) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:24:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Drifting in the area of the unwell Message-ID: <005501c11dba$535841a0$78d1193e@lee> I'm feeling particularly glum, i stayed up as late as i could last night so i didnt have to endure another sunday, at least, not a lot of it, as my sodding luck would have it i fell asleep before 2, and woke up before midday today. I am skint, i teased my self by looking at some rather nice new Catatonia t shirts and some lavely elastica wrist bands, i only have £15 to last me to october, even Tesco haven't asked me back for an interview, i sent my apllication in ages ago, if i can't get an interview iwth bloody Tesco who's gonna take me on, i'm gonna be skint, totally, all of summer, i cant go to devon to see my, g/f, i can't go on holiday, can't tell if i am depressedor i have pmt.. piss piss piss sorry to moan lou +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sun Aug 5 17:00:06 2001 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:00:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: under heavy manners Message-ID: <003a01c11dc7$e0669080$dc135fd8@yesic.com> so i came home one day to find a mouse had gone mt.etna in my kitchen. which was more like making mincemeat than a mountain of a molehill since the poor bastard decided to play in my air-cleaner and ended up coming out of the top vent of said contraption in a volcano-like spew. he bent one of the fan blades inside too and i had to scrape him off the walls and floor etc. made me kind of glad that i have to move in early september. yet seeing the potential places to move into is also kind of horrifying....the rental market in this city is horrid. anyway... i can almost hear robyn fadden from here, going 'hear me! i gloat! hear me gloat! terah teree!" about her impending vancouver show at the prestigeous croatian cultural center! which is on commercial avenue, which is where her trent lives i hear... she'll probably just stroll on over to the show after having some kind of home made pasta extravaganza at his place and then see belle and sebastian with perfect hair like she was just stepping out for some milk or something. fug. "hey, i'm just zipping down the street to see belle and sebastian play at the croatian's." "ok, i'll come with you, remind me to get some more yoghurt on the way back." LENIN IS MY UNICORN, YOU ARE MY PEGASUS yeah, so i'm not screaming with tears like i'm tim kinsella or anything about the lack of belle and sebastian touring toronto. i mean, i always feel uncomfortable about being reminded that toronto isn't the center of the entire universe and that all bands must play here because we matter more than vancouver, and have better clothes over-all and fewer hippies (who really bring the clothes average down) and none of those fucking mountains blocking your uninterrupted view of the smog or buffalo like we do. actually, i think the mountains also figure in to their egregious hippie problem too....hmmm....anyway, they (meaning neil) apologised to us for finking out twice and they'll come eventually or maybe they'll break up and never play here ever. for the record thousands of great bands haven't come to toronto ever or haven't come in the longest time or broke up before they got here. i don't think the pastels ever made it to toronto. in their entire breif career i don't think that young marble giants ever played toronto. all kinds of awesome US bands don't play here, the makeup played here once (twice?) and then avoided us for 3 years n' then broke up, poundsign haven't ever come; the clientele played toronto but were horrid...personally i'm more upset about new order not playing toronto than belle and sebastian. new order! why have you deserted me?! i think i'll grow a beard that i won't shave until i get to see new order. no, beards are bad. as surely as marijuana leads to heroin, beards lead to either increasing unwonted eccentricity or hemp clothing and arhythmic djembe playing. personally, i think belle and sebastian are too FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGAN to play toronto. toronto is the city that they DARE NOT play. they're afraid that some band from missassaugua or dundas will upstage them, they're afraid of the locust like swarms of APHIDS that throng the streets and cram the airconditioners. yeah...i'm totally offended that neil didn't come out with the truth...they're just too damn scared to face toronto. grrrr. yeah, i dunno what the entire kerfuffle from julie, deb and all was about with the belle and sebastian not coming to our big important east coast cities...red geisha was like 'indie toronto will implode without an important visit from the twee royal family!' and i was all like 'holy alarmism!' and then i thought about it and realised that really indie rock has been dead in north america ever since jad fair learned how to play guitar and that the rest of its all been some kind of vanity hair extention shoulder-pad (#2) affair really -who needs modest mouse really? i'm confusing apples and oranges aren't i? no? ok, well toronto sucks indie wise anyway...its only saving grace is that its the central focus of a series of very creative suburbs that provide it every so often with fresh meat which the "scene" then grinds up and digests into a kind of inky excrement. bands actually from toronto are few and far between and usually not very good. where were the shadowy men on a shadowy planet from? were they actually from toronto? maybe they were originally from guelph... personally missassaugua is my favourite suburb. and i'm not even playing partisan since i'm from vaughn which, as debs can confirm, does indeed kind of suck. but enough toronto. i mean, whats the good of seeing belle and sebastian here anyway...they don't have anywhere near the kind of connection they've got to the UK/Scotland people, they don't play soccer with us, they don't take their shirts off in our presence, they don't recognise any of us at all...i'm guessing it'd just be a bunch of travel weary scotts stumbling around on stage talking in in-jokes developed from the uneasy insularity of touring strange places and being all inward. i have little faith in the band outside of their native habitat. ...not that that opinion is founded on my having experienced the mighty belle and sebastian live juggernaut myself, just based on poor research and a lack of faith... hey, and now that i've done biting the hand that feeds me and c. and pissed off everyone in toronto and called everyone a chump: arantxa sanz is visiting and we (in toronto) should do something for her no? well if you want to email me or something and we'll set something up. ok? yeah and then some people have been saying 'finland' and i loved finland and i want to go back and do things there and drink heavily and such. my friend osmo explained the whole donald duck thing by saying that no body likes a guy who's always magnanimous and wins all the time etc. so thats why donald duck appeals more than other disney characters, he has more human failings. the finnish! also, people have been discussing my personal hero david byrne on the list alot. i used to try and be as much like early david bryne as i could. it made conversation difficult and my suit kept getting bigger. it was kind of a pain. i can see a bit how stu looks a bit like db. but not alot. i have a picture of him staring at me from the side of my computer monitor right now... he's looking at me as if to say "you should be writing an essay, steven. working hard benefits not only yourself but also those around you." and with his tree suit on he is so persuasive and reasonable. oh david! i'm sorry i dissappoint you so often, (kiss kiss). phew... and that ties in nicely to giggling at conceptual art, which is kind of what its made for isn't it? like with funny movies shown at 'art house' theaters you're ability to laugh shows just how far ahead of the entire room of turtleneck people you really are. who ever it was should definitely keep laughing at 'art'. yeah>>> and astrid mentioned kids in the hall! hooray! i thought that kids in the hall was completely unheard of in northern europe. the finns i met had certainly never seen it...i remember trying to drunkenly expalin gavin to some puzzled looking blonde people. "and then he says 'how much would my head weigh if it were made of veal' and the guy painting the chair just looks at him, right? " and this is where robyn goes 'my indian drum!' and i pretend that the skit never existed. badum! s t e v e n +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sun Aug 5 17:02:19 2001 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:02:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: under heavy manners Message-ID: <003d01c11dc8$02060c20$dc135fd8@yesic.com> so i came home one day to find a mouse had gone mt.etna in my kitchen. which was more like making mincemeat than a mountain of a molehill since the poor bastard decided to play in my air-cleaner and ended up coming out of the top vent of said contraption in a volcano-like spew. he bent one of the fan blades inside too and i had to scrape him off the walls and floor etc. made me kind of glad that i have to move in early september. yet seeing the potential places to move into is also kind of horrifying....the rental market in this city is horrid. anyway... i can almost hear robyn fadden from here, going 'hear me! i gloat! hear me gloat! terah teree!" about her impending vancouver show at the prestigeous croatian cultural center! which is on commercial avenue, which is where her trent lives i hear... she'll probably just stroll on over to the show after having some kind of home made pasta extravaganza at his place and then see belle and sebastian with perfect hair like she was just stepping out for some milk or something. fug. "hey, i'm just zipping down the street to see belle and sebastian play at the croatian's." "ok, i'll come with you, remind me to get some more yoghurt on the way back." LENIN IS MY UNICORN, YOU ARE MY PEGASUS yeah, so i'm not screaming with tears like i'm tim kinsella or anything about the lack of belle and sebastian touring toronto. i mean, i always feel uncomfortable about being reminded that toronto isn't the center of the entire universe and that all bands must play here because we matter more than vancouver, and have better clothes over-all and fewer hippies (who really bring the clothes average down) and none of those fucking mountains blocking your uninterrupted view of the smog or buffalo like we do. actually, i think the mountains also figure in to their egregious hippie problem too....hmmm....anyway, they (meaning neil) apologised to us for finking out twice and they'll come eventually or maybe they'll break up and never play here ever. for the record thousands of great bands haven't come to toronto ever or haven't come in the longest time or broke up before they got here. i don't think the pastels ever made it to toronto. in their entire breif career i don't think that young marble giants ever played toronto. all kinds of awesome US bands don't play here, the makeup played here once (twice?) and then avoided us for 3 years n' then broke up, poundsign haven't ever come; the clientele played toronto but were horrid...personally i'm more upset about new order not playing toronto than belle and sebastian. new order! why have you deserted me?! i think i'll grow a beard that i won't shave until i get to see new order. no, beards are bad. as surely as marijuana leads to heroin, beards lead to either increasing unwonted eccentricity or hemp clothing and arhythmic djembe playing. personally, i think belle and sebastian are too FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGAN to play toronto. toronto is the city that they DARE NOT play. they're afraid that some band from missassaugua or dundas will upstage them, they're afraid of the locust like swarms of APHIDS that throng the streets and cram the airconditioners. yeah...i'm totally offended that neil didn't come out with the truth...they're just too damn scared to face toronto. grrrr. yeah, i dunno what the entire kerfuffle from julie, deb and all was about with the belle and sebastian not coming to our big important east coast cities...red geisha was like 'indie toronto will implode without an important visit from the twee royal family!' and i was all like 'holy alarmism!' and then i thought about it and realised that really indie rock has been dead in north america ever since jad fair learned how to play guitar and that the rest of its all been some kind of vanity hair extention shoulder-pad (#2) affair really -who needs modest mouse really? i'm confusing apples and oranges aren't i? no? ok, well toronto sucks indie wise anyway...its only saving grace is that its the central focus of a series of very creative suburbs that provide it every so often with fresh meat which the "scene" then grinds up and digests into a kind of inky excrement. bands actually from toronto are few and far between and usually not very good. where were the shadowy men on a shadowy planet from? were they actually from toronto? maybe they were originally from guelph... personally missassaugua is my favourite suburb. and i'm not even playing partisan since i'm from vaughn which, as debs can confirm, does indeed kind of suck. but enough toronto. i mean, whats the good of seeing belle and sebastian here anyway...they don't have anywhere near the kind of connection they've got to the UK/Scotland people, they don't play soccer with us, they don't take their shirts off in our presence, they don't recognise any of us at all...i'm guessing it'd just be a bunch of travel weary scotts stumbling around on stage talking in in-jokes developed from the uneasy insularity of touring strange places and being all inward. i have little faith in the band outside of their native habitat. ...not that that opinion is founded on my having experienced the mighty belle and sebastian live juggernaut myself, just based on poor research and a lack of faith... hey, and now that i've done biting the hand that feeds me and c. and pissed off everyone in toronto and called everyone a chump: arantxa sanz is visiting and we (in toronto) should do something for her no? well if you want to email me or something and we'll set something up. ok? yeah and then some people have been saying 'finland' and i loved finland and i want to go back and do things there and drink heavily and such. my friend osmo explained the whole donald duck thing by saying that no body likes a guy who's always magnanimous and wins all the time etc. so thats why donald duck appeals more than other disney characters, he has more human failings. the finnish! also, people have been discussing my personal hero david byrne on the list alot. i used to try and be as much like early david bryne as i could. it made conversation difficult and my suit kept getting bigger. it was kind of a pain. i can see a bit how stu looks a bit like db. but not alot. i have a picture of him staring at me from the side of my computer monitor right now... he's looking at me as if to say "you should be writing an essay, steven. working hard benefits not only yourself but also those around you." and with his tree suit on he is so persuasive and reasonable. oh david! i'm sorry i dissappoint you so often, (kiss kiss). phew... and that ties in nicely to giggling at conceptual art, which is kind of what its made for isn't it? like with funny movies shown at 'art house' theaters you're ability to laugh shows just how far ahead of the entire room of turtleneck people you really are. who ever it was should definitely keep laughing at 'art'. yeah>>> and astrid mentioned kids in the hall! hooray! i thought that kids in the hall was completely unheard of in northern europe. the finns i met had certainly never seen it...i remember trying to drunkenly expalin gavin to some puzzled looking blonde people. "and then he says 'how much would my head weigh if it were made of veal' and the guy painting the chair just looks at him, right? " yeah, and the hecubus skits are classic. and kids in the hall are actually from toronto. so there. yeah. toronto...yeah....(not vancouver) and this is where robyn goes 'my indian drum!' and i pretend that the skit never existed. badum! s t e v e n (master of funk....AND EVIIILL!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Sun Aug 5 19:33:48 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:33:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Portable Shrews Message-ID: <001e01c11ddd$4453b900$097f893e@chris> This list is on fire, it seems like the whole of America has suddenly joined. Anyway, I hope you chaps and lasses all have fun at the west coast gigs. Big Stu suggested that getting excited about Belle And Sebastian gigs is so last month. He's wrong. I'm still excited and it's over a month since I saw them. Come to think of it, this time last month was the Ipswich gig. I have news to report to the list. Two of our number are together in a romantic sense. I've giggled already and blushed and whispered to Sam Walton and so now it's your turn. Mr. Hallifax and Miss Feather Boa love each other and she's a girl and he's a boy...eughhh! I saw them behind the portakabin where Barry with the mucky hands once found a dead shrew and put it on a stick to show Gemma. She didn't like it. Moving on... Jo's photos from the Scarborough gig have got to me and they are great! There is a wonderful one of us and Struan and another with Struan pulling a cheeky naughty boy face next to me. I think he had just been behind the portakabin as well. Isobelle and Mick look lovely too. Thank you to Nick for complementing me on my colour coordinatedness at the picnic. I was only wearing rugby socks because my feet were hurting as I ran round the tube. I actually ran around the stations, not the trains. Madeleine keeps saying things which make me smile and go 'hmmmm' a lot. Thank you. Carsmile Steve: Did you meet Gina? She was the only member of the York massive still actually in York. If anyone wants a portakabin, they make them in York in things that look like giant portakabins. I don't know how that works. Which came first, the stuff to make them with or the stuff to make them in? Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Sun Aug 5 19:49:36 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: don't you want me? Message-ID: <20010805184936.8764D36EE@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com Sun Aug 5 20:37:59 2001 From: MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com (MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 15:37:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: tickets for sale Message-ID: Ah yes, tis me again. Well i managed to get my Saturday tickets at the Warfield today but now I'm stuck with trying to get rid of my Sunday tickets. So, if anyone is planning on buying Sunday B&S tickets for the Warfield perhaps you could consider buying them from me. They are general admission tickets and maybe I can take just a wee bit off of the original total to inspire someone to buy them from me. Please think about it and get back to me. Leah And even though its off the subject I feel like mentioning that I saw Depeche Mode in concert last night. We had lawn seats until some guy walked up to us out of the blue and said "Heres 4 front row tickets." I just about peed my pants. I was so close that David Gahan actually sweat on me. And yes that is rather disgusting, but when your in the middle of it all its pretty damn cool. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 01:14:20 2001 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 02:14:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: i'm happy and i'm singing and a 1, 2, 3, 4 Message-ID: Astrid started it so I am just following up... Buddy Cole, barlfly, philosopher, and softball coach. Did you know that there is a book by Scott Thompson (and Paul Bellini) entitled "Buddy Babylon : The Autobiography of Buddy Cole", it's the cat's pyjamas. Favorite Buddy Cole scenario. Buddy Cole is sent to a desert island and whom did he take with him? Oscar Wilde... Buddy: Oscar, say something funny. Oscar: Shall I? Buddy: Yes do your stuff, do the "wilde" thing. Oscar: Well, Buddy, I recall as I laid dying in my death bed I came out of my stupor momentarily and declared with perfect aplomb either that wallpaper goes or I do. Buddy: Oh that was rich Oscar. Oh, geeze, let me catch my breath for a second. Oh, oh I am so glad that I brought you and not someone common. Oscar: Message received Buddy. You know Buddy the trouble with the common man... Buddy: Yes? Oscar: Is that he is so unbearably common! Buddy: Oh Oscar, funny but you're such a snob. Oscar: Oh that's my charm. Buddy: Oh, oh, it's really too bad that you're dead. Oscar: Oh I know. Buddy: Does it bother you? Oscar: Well you know Buddy I'd rather be in Philadelphia. Buddy: Um, that's funny but W.C. Fields said it. Oscar: Well yes, if you had been listening to me correctly Buddy what you would have heard me say was, "I may have been born yesterday but I still went shopping." Buddy: That was me. Oscar: Oh yes, well I seem to be getting a bit of laryngitis Buddy, I'm afraid there'll be no more quipping today. Side note: W.C Fields (died in 1946), once said; "I don't drink water, fish fuck in it". Oscar Wilde (died in 1900), once said; "Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same". �If, with the literate, I am Impelled to make an epigram, I never seek to take the credit; We all assume that Oscar said it.� -Dorothy Parker (died in 1967) oh the last one came out of no where... but I still think Llew and Dorthy are wrong, boys do make passes on girls with glasses. Malmcolm X (died in 1965) and Yoko Ono (I never really liked her but I liked her hubby, who died in 1980) are sitting in a bistro in Rome... Yoko: Oh the food's terrible. But the waiter's hilarious. I spent the Saturday drinking Chilian wine with a nice girl in the rain during a walk around an old mine that they filled with water and kids swim in these days. They say it's bottomless but I asked a diver who was diving around and he said it was just 13-14 meters deep. It's always easier to make a pass on a girl if it is raining and you have just shared a bottle of Chilian wine. Peak of my weekend, friday i was just sitting around in a bar with friends jokes... I was waking in the park the other day and I saw this girl with a dog. So I went up to her and pat the dog and asked, what kind of dog is this. The girl said, it's a police dog. I couldn't tell I said, she said, that's because it belongs to the secret police. The new Wilco album "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" stellar. I read a review of Storytelling in Dazed and Confused, you know the movie Belle and Sebastian and Nathan Larson (ex. Shudder to Think, now married with Nina in the Cardigans and part member of A Camp and also makes solo music I guess) is making the soundtrack for. It says it's not as good as Happiness, but still said it was one of the best movies of Cannes 2001, so that's not really a bad review, excited to see it. Did I tell you that the new Wilco album stellar? Probably, I'm running out of tricks, time to go to bed. Johan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 05:12:18 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:12:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I miss the rising action...but it rocks Message-ID: Oh Ken, how could you be so out of it? Belle and Sebastian going to Brazil for the soccer? Fiddlesticks! It's obviously for the bikinis as their new single is going to be called 'Fio Dental'. Honey's news breaking bulletin about possible singer Angelina Jolie with B&S made me explode (but in a fun way). I keep telling people but no one believes me. My mother seems anxious about the well-being of the band. "Oh no, she'll be bringing that husband of hers! The knives and things..." she said worriedly, furrowing her brow. I don't know why they have to do Wild Thing though. Nonetheless, let's all go see Original Sin to celebrate. Jay was writing about how he thought You're Just A Baby was much seedier, well it probably is, but you know how everyone adapts songs to their own purposes. I'm like that with other things, I'll twist stupid little things into meaning much more. Oh dear, I'm have a moment, but I do have a special affection for that song, because in grade 10 I did a claymation to it, and the two characters in it (Belle and Sebastian) were really stand ins for me and this record store boy. I just loved the line 'there must be a reason for all the looks we gave/and all the things we never said before' it just seems very innocent to me, like OH stupid boy why do we play these games, I know it's just a ruse when you call my house to tell me a record is in, secretly it's for me and me and me! Actually then, this changes the tragic love triangle. Struan would be the friend of the girl, the boy who plays guitar, and he has a secret love for her, but she just sees him as a friend, not knowing he loves her! Or maybe she's a chambermaid and he's a vicar. All the while she is complaining about the jerk she has to marry. But if he's a jerk, why is she marrying him? Oh, some girls are like that. But Shush! It's not important so let's cut to the dewy fields and moonlit forest scene. Where is the Saccharine's Head? I have to catch The Peacock when I'm in Glasgow, if only for a moment. I figure this would be his place? The Crystal Methods new album is called Tweekend, which makes it seem all lilacs and kittens. Alright, Fairs Do! Love, Genevieve p.s. xoxo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 10:31:58 2001 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:31:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Red knicker day Message-ID: <86256AA0.00345E75.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hi kids, hope you're all well. As most of you know, red knicker day is approaching fast. In honour of this the time has come for another picnic. And.........a new venue! No, not Primrose Hill, no, not Greenwich but somewhere infinitely more central (well, slightly more central than Primrose Hill) and that's ...Regent's Park. That's right, Regent's Park, probable location within that sprawling hunk of green will be near the top near the elephants in the zoo. More precise information will follow. And if you all cross your fingers we may be able to have some dancing afterwards! The date for this extravaganza will be the 25th of August which is the Saturday of the Bank holiday so you've all got two days afterwards to sleep off hangovers/ find your way home. Like I said, I'll post full details of meeting point and exact location of picnic nearer the time. And don't forget your red pants Picnic kindly uncle Cabbagexxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 14:11:18 2001 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: turn the other cheek Message-ID: <20010806131118.93990.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com> dahlinks, it's been too, too long. /me tosses beaded shawl dramatically over shoulder and arranges herself on a chaise lounge. now. frankly, i'm not that disappointed that the band won't be coming to the east coast (or michigan for that matter -- oh didn't you know? i've shacked up with princess christiaan and we're now living in sin in ann arbor, michigan. how positively Naughty!) as i was saying, i'm not too disappointed because really, i've always believed that belle & sebastian are really figments of someone's twisted imagination. having never actually seen them in person (except for that StuD fellow when i went to see looper Three Times in a sad attempt to see 1/8 of my favorite band), i can live in blissful ignorance of their actual existence. but having recently finally seen the lucksmiths almost makes up for it. that tali really knows how to beat a drum, eh? that said, however, i'd like to add that julie -- as always in a perfectly sauer, charmingly petulant, and beautifully pouty way -- summed it up perfectly. i couldn't put my finger on it, but neil's email irked me for quite some time. and julie hit the nail on the head when she said that it felt like a scolding, like a kick in the teeth. "wait yr turn." indeed. as i've been quiet for so many months, and as i am currently sucking on a cherry cough drop in a sad attempt to rid my throat of this horribly scratchy sensation (which, on the plus side, lends my voice an undeniably sexy, vaguely hoarse quality), i'll take my leave now. /me gathers up shawl and purse. miss honey, are we on for tea next tuesday? take care, loves. *mwah, mwah* ree xo ===== * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "to me she was just marie." -mersault "Let me, for our happiness/ Be the one to love the less." -dorothy parker http://home.earthlink.net/~marieelia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 16:35:55 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:35:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: Jen behaving badly Message-ID: <71.10c1ee04.28a0135b@aol.com> Hewwo, I returned from Inbred Country (fife) today. As fun as it all was it's quite nice to be among people to whom 'dad' and 'uncle' don't mean the same thing. But I had to delete a lot of sinister mail (two weeks worth) cause it wasn't polite to sit and read them from someone else's computer. And I keep forgetting that on my own keyboard the '@' key and the ' " ' key are mixed around. So do you want to hear all about my holiday? Cause that's the only interesting thing I've got to talk about. A big part of my holiday story involves illegal things like underage drinking, smoking things and the computer misuse act. I got ruined quite a lot, and spewed my load in a trendy nightclub. But i never tried to smoke asprin like someone else did. We went to see the Discovery in Dundee and it was swell. I beed Captain Gay and my host Jaz was Lt. Gay of the good HMS homosexual. And there's a lot of pictures of us arranging the manequins into rude positions and us with some lifesize model sheep and oh the fun we had with those. I don't know if it makes it better of worse that we got a 12 year old sprog to take the photos. Probably worse. Oh and we went to Leven where Danskin lived and worked before he was jailed. And I bought Violet Creams, and a disposable camera and we got our pictures taken outside of Smith and Grant, Danskin's old office, for a laugh, and then Cameron Makenzie who we recognised from Igor emailing us the Staff page of the Smith and Grant site over and again, he came out and yelled at us and said "what the hell are you doing taking pictures of my office?" and it turns out he thought we from the press (with a disposable camera and jaz's 12 year old sister who is in fact madelin from gregory's girl) so I did the talking and said "well we're tourists and this is a pretty village" even though it was in fact just a plain old town centre and there was no way anyone would want pictures of a lawyers. And we were all really dying to say "haha you employed a peadophile" but we never. And we also passed Braemar House where Danskin lived and brought underage buoys back to and Saughton Prison where he lives now but we drew the line at going to see him because Igor wasn't there and he would have been jealous (plus it's a bit sick). I went to Edinburgh too and I got bored of wearing shoes so I was walking about Princes Street barefoot because I decided that shoes are for people who don't like their feet, and I don't like my feet but I want to appear confident. And I have a new purse which is all denim and has a rainbow on it. Oh and I downloaded loads of B&S and Heavenly and the Smiths onto jaz's computer because she's a metaller and listens to fear factory. And she wasn't happy when she booted up and morrisey started whining at her. And ANGELFIRE SHUT DOWN MINE AND JAZ'S SITE. I was rather distraught. It's not the one on Bob the Wasp though., never fear. It was a different one. Our aim was to make it so offensive that we got in the papers but they shut us down first. It was quite bad though. You loaded up and a picture of Harold Shipman with a halo and 'GOD' written underneath came up. We got a record amount of hate e mail, which was to a special address we came up with which I won't tell you because no one will ever speak to me again if i say what it was. But it wasn't all bad, we just said we hated everything, like we said we hated gays but we also hated homophobes and stuff. It was a big contradiction. I also went to a club and pretended to be 19 to get in and these guys bought me drinks and stuff and it saved me lots of money but they didn't seem too pleased when I said at the end of it that I had a devastatingly handsome boyfriend. Maybe I should have mentioned that earlier to them. Oops. Ah well, I'm not stopping home for long luckily. I'm hopping some unreliable public transport to London where I'm meeting the aforementioned devastatingly handsome boyfriend which should be swell. Grate even. Purple is a really grate colour. The best colour in the world in fact. I wish everything was purple. I'm going to go now, so byebye. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Aug 6 17:46:59 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 17:46:59 Subject: Sinister: waiting to drown. Message-ID: <143096017@spray.se> The drugs don´t work is on the telly. Good tune for being the verve. Today is like THE ultimate tv-night. Well, not really actually. Kids in the hall and Queer as folk. But hey, it´s good. I got a very sweet e-mail from my friend Robin today, which made me exptremely happy. I´ve just been watching videos all day. I am such a slackerkid. Uh. And not ever in the nice way. Soon, I´m going to go and meet my sister at the local pizza place, where we will eat, surprise surprise, pizza. Still: visit my B&s page: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling and don´t forget the guestbook! I´ve just done a really bad job translating my ordinary swedish website to english, but anyway, if you want to see a page that is, not complete yet, with sometimes, swedish sentences that I´ve forgot to pick away etc. etc, visit http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/english.html Now, I´m off for dinner. Veggie pizza, here I come! Astrid. Ps. The destiny´s child song, bootylicious you know, is a bit weird. "I don´t think you´re ready for this jelly" doesn´t get the same maning if Beyoncé say it and if I would say it. I mean, imagine yourself saying it to a boy/girl: "Hi. I don´t think you´re ready for this jelly". It would be awful, right? _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bluish_brown_glurp at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 18:15:51 2001 From: bluish_brown_glurp at xxx.com (Adrian Rudloff) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Pointy Bird and SF Tix You Wants? I Gots! Message-ID: <20010806171551.70470.qmail@web14101.mail.yahoo.com> Howdily Doodily Neglectarinos, My sympathies to the people who are too far away to catch the shows. My feeling is that the tour is dictated by financial considerations rather than anything more personal. SF TIX: I've decied not to go to the SF shows since there are 2 LA shows and my friend won't be in SF that weekend. I'm also feeling a bit piggy. So I've got 2 Sat and 2 Sun tix for release to the public. They're all of the kickass floor variety. I'm just looking for face value+ticketmustard fees. Lemme know quick. Whine: It's funny that this word should be popping up so frequently lately, it's at the center of my current mishear. The line from Take Your Ear Muffs Off and Adjust Them, that goes "you have whined till you got what you want" I always think he's gonna say "wanked". Also on that one Gentle Waves song where Isobel goes "touch my 'aaaaaand" I swear she's about to say "aaaaaasss" every time. Anyone else or am I a whatayacallit..dirty bugger? Hannah mentioned long ago:" i also might buy a beatles album, they are suppose to be quite good you know." Indeed. If those fellas just stick to their guns...the potential is certainly there. A Quote: This is a Goethe quote that I got out of Rick Ridgeway's, "The Last Steps"(the book is about the first american ascent of K2) I find It very inspiring. I loaned the book out, so I might be paraphrasing : "Anything you can do, or think you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it." My Name: I really should have sorted out my yahoo account better. I wasn't going to reveal my real name, not because I didn't want to be accountable for my posts, it's just I was really looking forward to being shrouded in mystery. I hardly ever get to be. Oh well I guess, feel free to address me by my real name...or is it? ...SUCKAZ!....no it is. Crush Vote: I'm getting very close to casting my crush vote. I'm mentioning it now in case someone was looking to catch my eye, or planning a full-scale seduction but thought they had plenty of time to get all the particulars in place, tick-tock. Thievery: I just found out someone stole my credit card and tried to ring up $1800 worth of stuff. I'm gonna get this bastard. Steal from me eh? I'll pick up a few supplies at lunch (magnifying glass, bloodhounds, disguise kit etc.) and expect to have the whole caper wrapped up within the hour. I'll start with all the dodgy characters on this list who hide behind cute aliases and don't have the decency to use their real names. Oh, and Briar Random if I could see you first please:). Welcome B&S: North America is looking forward to hosting the latest B&S tour. We welcome you with open arms back to the land where your shoe size is generously upped, and cereal warrants its own aisle. Squish, Glurp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Mon Aug 6 18:59:18 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:59:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Welcome home Jen with bottom wiping and teabags Message-ID: <002b01c11ea1$9fbfce40$7c225ad4@pbncomputer> Well well well, On the third week of my crummy dull job. I work in a box factory and we make boxes. Big boxes, little boxes, long boxes, brown boxes, white boxes... fox in socks in cardboard boxes... You know that it's getting dire when the perk of your job is when a lorry load of bubble wrap comes and you get to throw around huge rolls of it. If anyone is interested in some pink anti-static bubble wrap then...bugger off. I'm sick of the stuff. Anyway, on a positive note, I have only Legal Man to purr-chase and then I have all buyable B&S. But unfortunately, still down on V-Twin, Reindeer Section, Delgados, White Stripes, Camera Obscura, Aislers Set and tragically, The Smiths! Wow, le Pastie... is the daddy. I could (and do) listen to it again and again and again. Went to a wedding the other day. Four Star Hotel. Oh my! Do you know the feeling you get when you ring up room service at one in the morning to order some darjeeling teabags and fresh milk? Wow! Also, had a pretty scots-lass dollop sauce (sorry, "sass") onto my plate for me. They would probably have wiped my little behind for me had I asked. I tell you, I could get used to that kind of attention. Next cool thing about the wedding... went for a cruise on a nice lake, the boat had a bar and then... (Tom orders coffee) "How much will that be?" "Oh, it's on the wedding tab." "So, it's paid for me?" "Yeah." "Well, I'll have...!" It's not often someone else picks up your tab, but when they do you make the most of it. If she's on sinister, hello to the girl I saw in Record Collector and said "thats a darn good album" to when I saw her holding BWTAS. She brushed me off, possibly because she thought I was bizarre but I later realised I was not wearing cords, so there is no reason for her to have recognised me. My inbox is chocker and so is yours, so go and read another post. Crdryby Tom P.S. Glad to hear from Jen again, glad you enjoyed yourself Jen. Now you're back you will be sitting around and you will spy a ribena berry crying in an envelope... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 19:06:04 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:06:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: she spent the summer day inside Message-ID: <3EF4E5C319A85D1168260005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> it's another day to spend inside. it is so hot that i have only been venturing out of the house after the sun sets. two nights ago elizabeth, a girl from work, invited some of us over to play, and her house is huge and old and reminded me of a murder mystery, and we sat in the garden room and took turns playing chopin's nocturnes on the piano and sometimes one of us would play with some castanets and the sound was quite interesting. we also made up a lazy blues song but we were all to drunk and shy to sing very much. my job is becoming stranger every day. yesterday we had no business at all and four of us were working and we spent all day making up dances and playing dress-up. corin took a lovely photo in which elizabeth was trying to be a gangster and wearing a sign that said "WANKER," i was wearing a strapless gown, long black gloves, a sparkly mask and yellow runners, and mike was wearing a blue plastic bag over his head with a pair of orange sunglasses. we also formed a percussion ensemble, the four of us behind the counter punching the keys on the cash register, tapping on the glass with the blunt end of a feather duster, shaking the pin-box...a crowd of three people watched with amusement and actually clapped a bit at the end of the seven-minute performance. the rest of the day was spent creating "art" from found objects and trying to devise a way to run down to the bar at applebee's and sneak back into the shop with four margaritas. oh dear my mother is going to be home soon and i'm still in my pjs and have been lounging around for four hours. astrid: bootylicious is the most atrocious song i have ever heard. it makes me want to spew...i guess i'm just not ready for that jelly. luv kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 20:23:47 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 19:23:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Misguided Angel Message-ID: Does malt vinegar go off? I thought it was wine that's already gone off? But my beans tasted funny and I'm sure it's from the vinegar in put on my chips. It's been in the sun. I hate working late. I aleays end up eating crap. And then it tasted funny. Not fair. I think working late's made me melancholy too. There was a drama on Radio 4 set on a farm in Gascogny, and the old farmer wouldn't buy a tractor - he still did all his ploughing with cows. As they trudged from the field he said, softly, 'nearly done'. Ostensibly it was to the cows, but the weariness in his voice let you know he was also talking to himself. I got a lump in my throat. Just before this drama they were talking about diaries and Judy Bloom (as in Le Pastie) came up, and in the next breath they used the phrase 'sinister dramas'. We're everywhere! I lost my IRC virginity yesterday with my first visit to #sinister, thanks to Ken's directions. Thanks so much to everyone who was in there for being so nice to such a useless newbie. It was *grate* and I'll soon be back. /me changes channel on the radio (Vel, that piece of paper I wrote your email address on has been taken by the evil pixies, so please send it me off-list. Pleeeease. Ta.) Adrian Glurp - I thought they wanked till they got what they wanted too. 'Spose 'whined' makes more sense though. And Astrid, by the time they made that song the drugs had obviously ceased to work for The Verve. Try their earlier stuff though, like The Verve EP or Storm in Heaven. A long way from twee, but still rather good. Finally, thanks to Cabbage for taking on the next picynic. I shall endevour to be there. Enjoy yourselves Love, PeetSketchSteve "Some bloke in a cardigan..." Oh yeah, nearly forgot... The subject line. I've just got some tix to see the Cowboy Junkies at the Shepherd's Bush Empire in Oct. Anyone else goin'? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kheydt at xxx.com Mon Aug 6 23:54:15 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kirk the jerk) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 18:54:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: cover band plans Message-ID: <3B6F2013.2595428D@erols.com> This may turn out to be a terrible mess but the plan for the Belle & Sebastian Sinister East Coast Cover Band is this: I will create and keep a database of Sinister musicians that can, on occasion make themselves available for parties and the like, in the guise of our favorite yet shunning scots. What I need: More musicians. We need all kinds of people for this project from all over (I'm only limiting it right now to the east coast of America because that's where I am and driving for more than a day gets in the way of work). Everyone is welcome to join, even if you only want to sing for one song or you haven't played your recorder since grade school. This will only work if lots of people from lots of places can do this. How it will work: An event/party is planned by a member of sinister where they would like us to perform in place of the real thing. It is very important that anyone planning an event/party notify the database at least 3 weeks in advance so it's members can plan for the time off. Once a plan is received by the database all members of the band will be contacted with the details of the event. Those members that are able to perform on the date and at the location will then notify the database and I will confirm the band for the event. Each member of the database will be responsible for learning and practicing the songs. It can be as many or as few songs as they are comfortable or interested in learning. The database will keep track of the songs known to each of its members. Before an event a setlist will be decided on and if possible the members will meet up before (the morning of or the day before) the event for a set list run through. The show is apt to be sloppy but it's all in fun. Anyone with interest or big backyards e-mail me with your information. With luck we'll be singing and strumming and passed out 4 hours before the real band is in September. -kirk PS. I would love to play Iceland +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 04:06:05 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Chim-Chim) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: fallen icons of the 1970 Message-ID: <20010807030605.12615.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> ===== adjectives on the typewriter he moves his words like a prize fighter the frenzy pace of the mind in side itself *say it all* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 04:17:00 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Chim-Chim) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: fallen stars and icons of 1983 Message-ID: <20010807031700.68609.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> to begin with: i sincerely apoligize for the BLANK email you all just recieved from me. it's just me and my clumsy paws. in two weeks i will be moving to virginia. i have only been to virginia THREE times in my life. I am going down for my first year in college. My aspiration and cosy dream for my future: a high school english teacher. and the more times i am stirred into the conversation of leaving, the most heard line is "you're about to begin your life" So these past 18 years haven't counted? Perhaps, for some, true love is life. or maybe children or that perfect job money freedom your own car your own dilbert coffee mug but i think that these past 18 years have been quite a life in their own, thank you very much. The last thing i want to do is forget about the time we tried to raise an alive grandmother from the dead. (unsuccessful... if you'd believe it) Cause i swear i was living when i found that dead squirrel and carried it in a beach towel. i don't want to forget about a dogwood tree, or those goddamn raffi songs, or...even....all of those horrible horrible hair cuts so i am begining my life, am i? eep. some one comfort me rambling Dean Moriarity's twitch much love deer in headlights alice virginia ===== adjectives on the typewriter he moves his words like a prize fighter the frenzy pace of the mind in side itself *say it all* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Aug 7 11:35:18 2001 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: Barcelona - help Message-ID: <997180518.3b6fc466dac45@web-mail2.uibk.ac.at> Hello, and please excuse the list abuse. I am stuck in Barcelona after visting the benicassim festival (it was great!!!) with no place to staz. If there is anyone in the area willing to put me up for tonight you will have my eternal greatfulness and I will send zou a present once I get back or return the favour. I will be around for about an hour now and check in a little later while walking around looking for hostels although it does not look good. Also if anyonbe knows of any hostels, cheap nightclubs to spend the night, please write ... Vanessa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Aug 7 11:55:11 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:55:11 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I Left My Brain In Cash Converters Message-ID: <001b01c11f2f$9840ebc0$7969243e@itjfvkli> HEY! Belle and Sebastian is an ASSHOLE for not playing EASTCOAST! etc. If Chip Taylor is Jon Voight's brother, how come he isn't called Chip Voight? I did lunch with DAVID MOORE and his lovely wife MRS PAM. We talked about YOU. It was very pleasant. The Ken P. Chu Appreciation Society might like to know that the book SOUL MOUNTAIN by Gao Xingjian contains the following: "There are still plenty of people who can sing the dirges. In the Jingzhou and Jiangling regions where the Chu people originate, the dirges have been transmitted to the present. They are known also as tub-beating songs and are performed with wine libations by village Daoists... When Zhuangzi was in mourning for his wife he beat on a tub and sang, treating mourning as a joyous event. His singing, I expect, was very loud... There are vestiges of the tiger totem everywhere among the Ba people and in the Chu region." Apart from this the book is BOR-ING. BENICASSIM REPORT I didn't go. But I bet it was good. BASS! It's CLEAR VINYL, not PERSPEX! And you call yourselves musicians... I wonder if the crowd looks a funny shape when Stuart looks through it on stage? Like a massive Monster Munch advert or something. THE PINES I've got a badge, I have. I'm off now, Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Aug 7 12:42:48 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:42:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! References: <002401c11c1e$8c24c0a0$56084ad1@udrtg> Message-ID: <010701c11f36$f7ea3160$7584fc3e@neil> For fuck's sake. In future I won't bother keeping people updated then. It's funny. Only yesterday I was discussing with someone how I've never met an American who voted for George Bush. Well, maybe in Julie I've found one. I've rarely seen such a case of American-centric shit in my life. Let me re-iterate. There are many, many places where we have never played, where people have been waiting for a few years. I think it is only fair to go to these places before we start returning to places we have already been. Is this not a fair statement? Seemingly not. Julie, tell you what. Why don't you write a letter to everyone in Japan explaining that B&S can't come after all because you are more important? > How considerate of you to play for the good people of Iceland And you have the balls to say I'm insulting? Fuck's sake. Does no-one from Iceland take offence at that? There's plenty of people in Iceland who have been waiting for years to see the band. Really, do you think you're more important than the people in Iceland? I'll tell you something. You're not. Honestly, you're not. And you're not more important than the people in Australia, or Brazil, or New Zealand, or Italy, or Croatia or Turkey or Taiwan or Norway or any other fucking place. WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO DO MORE US DATES IN SEPTEMBER. We have other commitments as soon as the West Coast dates are finished. Sometime, hopefully the first half of next year, we will have caught up and will be able to come back to New York and, more importantly, Philadelphia and Toronto. But the more time I spend answering shit like this, the less time I have to sort out concerts. I don't know too many managers who spend so much time on unofficial fansites, trying to keep in touch with the fans. I only stepped in because people started claiming there were going to be more US dates. I thought I'd just clear up any confusion. I really didn't expect to get fucking slaughtered for it. I'll think twice next time about keeping yous informed. Cheers Julie. Nice work on the Kyoto Treaty by the way. Neil Robertson > You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian > Pennington have been few and far between. > I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, > because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil Robertson > pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. > Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their fans > have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't that > cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they > were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for festivals, > and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on > end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered with > a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half > assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a good > excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an > east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because you > spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing > (without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking > martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of us > who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting > for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, > but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the > presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the good > people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States and > Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure > everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking > Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & > Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of convenience > for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is > fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was not > a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in > the teeth. Just to get things straight. > This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage > I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. > Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. > > -Julie > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Aug 7 13:53:54 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:53:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I thawed in a war Message-ID: <20010807125354.20206.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Well blow me down if it aint been the fightin'est few weeks on Sinister ever. GRRR! That'll teach you to be informative and even-handed, Neil. And poor old Iceland caught in the crossfire. What did they ever do? I like this new gangsta thread with the east coast/west coast beef goin' on as well! Can't we all just get along? Genevieve said about the rumoured Jolie/B&S hookup: "let's all go see Original Sin to celebrate" Apparently it's a pretty bad film but then it couldn't possibly be worse than Tomb Raider which is the worst film I've ever paid 6 quid to see. Bad bad bad. Miller Mentioned: "The Ken P. Chu Appreciation Society" Which is a grate idea. There's a T-Shirt opportunity here - something like the BSPD T-Shirt adapted to read "KPYC". There's at least 1500 customers for whoever makes those. Corduroy Boy Tom works in a box factory! Better still it sounds just like the box factory from The Simpsons 'I didn't do it' episode (the one where Bart becomes a celebrity after getting on Krusty's show). Fantastic! The picnic on the 25th sounds like a lark - especially the not-climbing-hills part. I might even make it this time so I'd better dye me pants red. Chill! Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 14:19:15 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:19:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a possible cheery-bye Message-ID: i think i might "do a dafyd" and depart the list. why? cos i am sick to the back teeth of seeing posts about "oh, they won't play in my town, how inconsiderate" blah-de-fuckin-blah. who cares? at least they've been touring. i always thoght the thng about sinister was that if you couldn't get to a show then you could look on the list and find a post from someone who had. and as for the "but they've completely missed out the north east" malarky, well boo-hoo, what a shame. what about the b&s fans from right up the north of scotland (yes there are people living north of inverness), or wales or god knows what other countries that they haven't played before. america does not get first dibs on where they play, same as any other country. it is up to the band where they play and if they want to concentrate on the west coast then fine, let them. some of you people are so up your own arses, you are like wheels. sorry if this has offended anyone. actually, i'm not. amy xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Tue Aug 7 15:16:47 2001 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:16:47 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: the strokes!:) Message-ID: hellooo fellow sinisterinies!:) loooong time no chat but here's a brief rundown on what's the haps. Finished my 2 weeks in cancer which was surprisingly interesting. Guess anything would be after the 4 stultifyingly boring weeks of musculoskeletal. Was pretty intense though - a few patients passed away during the 2 weeks and one of the most awkward things to happen to me must be in the outpatient clinics where docs walk out of the room after telling patients bad news leaving me with the distraught patient. Hard to make the usual idle chit chat then... Also did 2 weeks in my option Management of Heroin Abuse now which is very interesting. Part of it is based in Dr George O'Neill's clinic (the Naltrexone doc) and part at this govt-sponsored clinic (central treatment services) which does the methadone programme. naltrexone is used to detox patients off heroin and stop craving. it's so wierd. you get some total skanks (sorry really bad word cos I definitely empathise with a lot of them) and bums off the street, and then you get people who really want to get off. Like this 20 yr old girl who was off heroin (occasionally using speed), 4 months pregnant and living in a house with no running water or electricity and social security wasn't paying her - I mean it's such a heartbreaking experience. The ones I really feel for are those really young kids whose father are also users and they really want to get off but forces are arrayed against them like they're homeless or whatever. you just feel so bad that you want to just let them stay at yr house or something. Also saw a doc being detoxed. guess which profession? Anaesthestics!!!:) Was pretty wierd and he was pretty stunned by everything cos his partners were trying to get him struck off and his wife was horrified blah blah. Felt really sorry for him too. so yeah a REAL eye opener. Also had my one and only 2 week break for the year where I planned to do catch-up study and plan my elective but did neither-aarrgh!:) but did have a really nice, relaxing break where I caught some great gigs (after a LONG drought mind). I saw Stephen Malkmus (ex-frontman of Pavement) and that was a really good gig. Have you heard of The Strokes? apparently hottest band from NYC, NME salivating over them etc etc? (if you have, whaddya think of 'em). well i got to interview them!!!:) For the pelican (my university newspaper) It was pretty cool-my 1st band interview. Made sure to do my homework on 'em so I wouldn't appear clueless. interviewed Nick Valensi the guitarist. thought it went quite well heehee:) Also got advance copy of album ("Is this it" which is brilliant) and free tix to their gig which was totally awesome. I was standing too close to the stage though and I got mild deafness the next day-woohoo! next up am trying to interview some of the bands on Twisted Nerve for Pelican (hopefully andy votel and/or Alfie) cool huh? the Strokes album "is this it?" is also very excellent. was surprised since it isn't the type of music I like normally but I love it!:) Any other strokes fans out there. have now been confirmed for the London hospitals i applied to for my elective. will be doing a month of paeds at Guy's hospital and then 2 weeks of a&e at whipps cross. all very exciting! am also hoping to visit my friend at Harvard before that and to backpack around europe. Am now doing a term in obstetrics and gynaecology which is cooler than I thought. what this term basically entails is helping to deliver babies and doing pap smears and learning about pregnancy, labour, and other 'women's problems'. First of all delivery shifts can be very cool (or very frustrating). Despite all the blood and pain, nothing beats the experience of helping to deliver a baby and seeing mum with her baby for the 1st time. awwww the heart melts! ahh the miracle of childbirth! so yeah that's pretty trippy. eeek have written a very long email, must sign off now seeya, hear from you soon Kin Woo "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 16:06:05 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:06:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Wisdom (teeth and otherwise) Message-ID: <99.18cb5ae3.28a15ddd@aol.com> Christ, I'm feeling better finally and I wake up to all this anger in my inbox. I spent yesterday, after having teeth ripped from my skull,all four of them impacted, alternately passing out and throwing up. Yeh, turns out I have an adverse reaction to anesthesia and strong pain killers. My advice for the day, if you can avoid seeing your food in reverse through bloody guaze, by all means, avoid it. I spent the night in excruciating pain because I wouldn't take anymore pain killers to avoid the unpleasantry mentioned above. And I can only eat soft food. I never want to see jello or pudding again as long as I live. The teeth dont even really hurt anymore. My mouth tastes of mangled gums and blood and stitches. My dad couldn't believe the size of the sutures they got in there, I'm a mess. Now I've got a bit to say on the whole East Coast rant. Both parties have made their respective points, and all the anger and harsh words have even prompted some to want to leave the list. I think it's time for a cease fire. As Mr. Peter Carter pointed out to me "If you want a band that's all for the fans, go with Westlife." He's right you know. The whole reason we like belle and sebastian is that their commitment to their music is stronger than anything else. If they were swayed by every whinging fan, then what kind of band would they be. I think most of us understand that for us, who are not directly involved with the band, to expect to have any control over where they go and what they do is a bit ridiculous. In a bit of defence for the angry americans (not much though mind you) it is terribly frustrating to know that your favorite band will be in your country and you won't be able to see them. Still a "Please come and see us over here when you do get the chance" would've been much more appropriat e than the "fuck you for not coming to see us now" that we got. Still, I think Neil's comment about the Kyoto treaty was entirely uncalled for. Making a comment that basically takes a cheap shot at the entire country is not necessary to tell of a few people that have made you angry. The fact that they may have made similarly unreasonable comments is no excuse. If you're going to try to be the voice of reason, you ought to rise above the antics of those being unreasonable. The comment doesn't even make much sense because: A: You cannot assume that because people are upsetting you, they must have voted for an asshole. B: Most of us didn't vote for Bush. C: Most of us HATE Bush. D: An awful lot of us have very pleasant dreams about Bush's assasination. E: A startlingly vast majority of us had absolutely no say in the whole kyoto treaty mess, and believe it or not, seeing as we didn't vote for him, cannot be held responsible for the actions of President Fuckwit and his Fuckwit administration. F: There have been plenty of Americans who defended your side, and they really didn't deserve to be subjected to cheap potshots at their country. So in closing I'd like to suggest that east coasters exercise a little patience, and those who angry east coasters have upset, exercise a little discipline and we can all move on from this needless unpleasantry and let the list return to being solely a group of happy hugging fucked in the head psycho fans that we've all grown to love. Hugs for each and every one of you, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Tue Aug 7 13:17:08 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:17:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I think I'm ready for some jelly Message-ID: my dear jolies, I don't know. 3 or 4 mentions on sinister and my 4 stringed guitar has gone all pretentious on me. Says he's not coming to the next picnic unless he 'has his own car'. well I'm not giving in to his demands. There must be dozens of young hopefuls queuing up to have Asm Awlton's nimble fingers dancing on their neck . I'm gonna bring percussion instead. can I join the growing chorus of chaps and chapesses dying to hear about the Bendicannibalism festival? I left my school I left my job: Well I left my job. I quit the pub where I work at evenings and weekends, over an embarrassing situation with the landlords (frighteningly young) niece. That's not what I told my friends, so I guess this is a kind of confessional. I was seduced, while drunk, and now I'm running scared - ashamed of my behaviour, but haven't got the balls to face the consequences. Just off to buy some second hand red knickers Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Aug 7 16:13:40 2001 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: Barcelona - false alarm Message-ID: <997197220.3b7005a44e556@web-mail2.uibk.ac.at> Ok, I found a place to stay now and it is a decent youth-hostel too; right at the harbour. So the next two nights are sorted. Sorry for mailing twice in such a short time but I wanted zou to know all is cleared up now and I am - for now - sorted and can start to relax and have a good time!! YAY! Will send benicassim reviews when I get back v/xxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Lutolfc at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 16:28:37 2001 From: Lutolfc at xxx.com (Lutolfc at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:28:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: RE:the strokes!:) Message-ID: <27.1974a2e7.28a16325@aol.com> hi everyone, this is my first post even though ive been a sort of voyeur the past few months, reading the list's goings-on. but now i actually have something to say! i was listening to the strokes just the other day on fmu. there was a rebroadcast of an in studio performance they did in 12/00. perhaps you caught it too, Woo. i always saw them listed to play in the Voice but i never actually heard them. i like them too! im also disappointed B&S wont come to the east coast (i live in New Jersey) but who cares, really. i was just thinking, even if they (do i dare even say it out loud?) broke up id still have all their music. well thats all for my introduction. im off to work. work being a weekly newspaper where i have 2 bosses - an editor and publisher and me. im the only employee which puts me in the middle cuz they both like to bitch about each other to me. im in a very powerful position if you think about it. maybe ill pit them against each other take over the paper, then i will RULE THE WORLD! not really. it was really nice meeting you oh, no the pleasure was all mine! oh, thank you! no, thank you! colleen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 16:40:27 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: 7 Aug 2001 11:40:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: First Prize Message-ID: <20010807154027.517.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 17:01:33 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:01:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the strokes!:) Message-ID: >well i >got to interview them!!!:) For the pelican (my university newspaper) aah, sweet pelican. that's a rag i haven't seen for a while. hope the layout isn't still rubbish. oh, and yay neil for voicing what i didn't have the guts to say. hugs, marianna (ex-grok mag gal) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chomicat at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 17:38:03 2001 From: chomicat at xxx.com (chomi pop) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:38:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: Neil's post Message-ID: Regarding the following message from B&S manager - Jesus Christ! That Neil really needs some holidays. Pretty disgusted, Nathalie -------- Original message Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:42:48 +0100 From: "Neil Robertson" Subject: Re: Sinister: Rule it out! For fuck's sake. In future I won't bother keeping people updated then. It's funny. Only yesterday I was discussing with someone how I've never met an American who voted for George Bush. Well, maybe in Julie I've found one. I've rarely seen such a case of American-centric shit in my life. I'll think twice next time about keeping yous informed. Cheers Julie. Nice work on the Kyoto Treaty by the way. Neil Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Tue Aug 7 17:52:31 2001 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: You can bet it is a bitch, kid... Message-ID: Hello hello, * Isn't whining about how gigs are not coming to middle-of-nowhere, U.S.A. a bit like moving to Missouri and complaining that there are no decent beaches? Just a thought. * Anyway, if B&S *do* decide to tour... I have the perfect venue... I work in a library where noise is actually encouraged because we have a theatre for concerts. Now wouldn't that be interesting? * If any of you need any San Francisco information, just ask. I was there for a design conference in June... oh why couldn't it have been in Sept? I highly recommend the Amoeba record store that has been mentioned. It is absolutely overwhelming. Do yourself a favor and make a list of things you want before you go in because you'll be floored at first. I even took pictures... There is a mission, Mission Dolores, that was interesting on the other side of town. It is the oldest building in San Francisco and Native Americans helped to build it. The peaceful little graveyard garden next to it is full of monuments and flowers. See: http://www.graphicmode.com/missiondolores/ * The "S" name of 2001 hurricanes is "Sebastien." Well, they spelled it wrong, and we rarely get to "S"... but I thought it was interesting. * Love from, jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 17:56:17 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:56:17 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! Message-ID: <006501c11f61$e0884400$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Yeah, when you hear the manager of your favorite sweet little band publicly cussing out a fan, it's kinda disheartening. Whether Julie deserved it or not. -----Original Message----- From: Neil Robertson To: sinister Date: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Sinister: Rule it out! >For fuck's sake. >In future I won't bother keeping people updated then. >It's funny. Only yesterday I was discussing with someone how I've never met >an American who voted for George Bush. >Well, maybe in Julie I've found one. I've rarely seen such a case of >American-centric shit in my life. >Let me re-iterate. > >There are many, many places where we have never played, where people have >been waiting for a few years. I think it is only fair to go to these places >before we start returning to places we have already been. > >Is this not a fair statement? Seemingly not. Julie, tell you what. Why don't >you write a letter to everyone in Japan explaining that B&S can't come after >all because you are more important? > >> How considerate of you to play for the good people of Iceland > >And you have the balls to say I'm insulting? Fuck's sake. Does no-one from >Iceland take offence at that? There's plenty of people in Iceland who have >been waiting for years to see the band. Really, do you think you're more >important than the people in Iceland? I'll tell you something. You're not. >Honestly, you're not. And you're not more important than the people in >Australia, or Brazil, or New Zealand, or Italy, or Croatia or Turkey or >Taiwan or Norway or any other fucking place. > >WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO DO MORE US DATES IN SEPTEMBER. >We have other commitments as soon as the West Coast dates are finished. >Sometime, hopefully the first half of next year, we will have caught up and >will be able to come back to New York and, more importantly, Philadelphia >and Toronto. >But the more time I spend answering shit like this, the less time I have to >sort out concerts. > >I don't know too many managers who spend so much time on unofficial >fansites, trying to keep in touch with the fans. I only stepped in because >people started claiming there were going to be more US dates. I thought I'd >just clear up any confusion. I really didn't expect to get fucking >slaughtered for it. I'll think twice next time about keeping yous informed. > >Cheers Julie. Nice work on the Kyoto Treaty by the way. > >Neil Robertson > > >> You know, the times when I've had the opportunity to agree with Brian >> Pennington have been few and far between. >> I wasn't going to say anything about this whole west coast tour thing, >> because I didn't really care that much. But this email from Neil >Robertson >> pissed me off subconsciously, as I woke up this morning annoyed. >> Belle & Sebastian have very rarely acted like professionals, and their >fans >> have passed it off as charming. Oh, they won't be photographed, isn't >that >> cute! But the people Neil's email was directed to were not the NME, they >> were the fans who have been buying imports, flying to the UK for >festivals, >> and crouched over their computers listening to Peel Sessions for years on >> end. But to wait for ages for news of a tour, and then to be answered >with >> a chiding "Just wait your turn!" is a little fucking idiotic. One half >> assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled does not a >good >> excuse to blow off more than half a country make. If you can't afford an >> east coast tour, or you have no time, or you just don't WANT to because >you >> spent a few weeks there not long ago working on the Todd Solondz thing >> (without scheduling any shows), say that. But don't play the fucking >> martyr, Neil, it's not becoming. Clearly you are shocked that those of >us >> who saw the band several years ago, or possibly stood in the venue waiting >> for a show that would never happen, would dare to ask for more shows. Oh, >> but we have to wait while the rest of the world gets graced with the >> presence of Belle & Sebastian. How considerate of you to play for the >good >> people of Iceland. (I noted that the entire center of the United States >and >> Canada was omitted from Neil's list. Really, if you're going to make sure >> everyone gets a turn, don't forget Bolivia, and India, and fucking >> Minneapolis.) It is painfully apparent here that touring for Belle & >> Sebastian is not a matter of satisfying fans, it is a matter of >convenience >> for the band, and where the band feels like going. Which, once again, is >> fine, if you're just going to be up front about it. But that email was >not >> a reassurance in any way to those of us on the east coast, it's a kick in >> the teeth. Just to get things straight. >> This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage >> I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life. And I'm insulted. >> Which is irrelevant, but shouting about it made me feel a little better. >> >> -Julie >> > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Aug 7 18:32:07 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:32:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Admin: PLEASE READ Message-ID: All listees please note. The list mums are hereby issuing notice that there's a few too many nearly-flames flying around on the list just now. A "flame" is an inflammatory or personal statement about another list member that is practically guaranteed to incite an angry reaction of equal or stronger proportion. Lots of lists allow flames, or don't specifically rule them out, but the Sinister rules expressly forbid them: Public Enemy Number One. This applies to all list members equally. The lists that allow them sometimes attract fans for a little while, but as the arguments degenerate to two person squabbles, those lists often don't last very long. Sinister's approaching its fourth birthday, bless you all. Please do remember that you agreed to abide by the list rules when you signed up, and flames just won't be tolerated. Miss Print says so. Statements such as the above are often misinterpreted, and the list mums are very tired, so *please* try and understand before you shout about personal liberty: this is not an attempt to quash opinion. Sinister thrives on well-tempered, thoughtful strong opinion. Many of us will have our own opinions about the arguments going on here and the extent to which wires are getting crossed: are we *really* debating the rights and wrongs of a band doing a tour in a particular location? or the more general question of what responsibilities an artist has towards its supporters? or the tone of a particular email? I don't know, but please decide before you mail a response to prolong this thread of conversation, if you have to, and please try and make it a good-natured and open response with something new to say. Treat the list gently, it might break; and make sure you send things to the list you'd like to read, and would continue to read, from 10 other people a day. You get the list you make. There's also a lot of mails coming in at the moment: it's understandable with feelings running high, recent concerts, tours planned, and those mails about Ken jogging naked with a policeman's helmet on. Please therefore be particularly sparing with those send buttons at the moment. People will have a tendency to get fed up, or drop off as they are swamped with mails. While you might like 35 deliciously random mails (or jokes, or one-liners) a day if you've just joined, if you've been getting 35 a day for three years you might appreciate some gentle restraint or special thought just now as to the 1500 receiving your mails. Not that any of you aren't delectable. It's just, we need to sloooow down just now, because previous experience on the list teaches that this is the time when tempers get frayed. Special restraint please, including the tendency to talk about whether we should talk about it. And if you *haven't* ever posted, and are shy but have something thoughtful, or witty, or apposite to say that we might all like, don't let this put you off: you're probably exactly the person who should be chewing their pencil right now and setting to it. Meant kindly. List Mum Honey xx P.S. I said I'd take over again from surrogate list mum Linda in July. It's August. OK, I'm mum again as from this post, but Linda becomes list auntie who will sometimes come around to take you to the park / spank bums gently when required to as per terms and conditions, when I need to sit on the sofa and eat chocolates all afternoon and watch a weepy movie. OK? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk Tue Aug 7 18:34:58 2001 From: Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk (Marc Bloomfield) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:34:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ooh, hark at them Message-ID: Hello all, I'm usually nice and quiet and sat in the corner, drinking on my own, hoping someone will come and talk to me, but as it's all got a bit nasty, I thought I'd better write something down. I've never heard the Strokes, and they sound too good to actually be any good (we had this kind of ludicrous NME hype with Terris, and they're a sack of cack), but as they've been the subject of nice e-mails (along with a certain Monsieur Chu), they can't be all bad. I hope Sinister doesn't turn into a competition to see who can write the word 'fuck' the most in one e-mail. It seems to be heading that way. So, despite the fact that all this bickering has aroused strong feelings in me, I'm staying well out of it before I make a tit of myself. You may think I've already done that, in which case, I'm not going to make even more of a tit of myself. Am I the only person who thought the Jonathan David single was a bit crap? I played it once and haven't felt the faintest urge to play it again. Right disappointing. And it cost £4 too. Give me Legal Man anyday. Or any of the other singles, in fact. Just seen this: 'Yeah, when you hear the manager of your favorite sweet little band publicly cussing out a fan, it's kinda disheartening. Whether Julie deserved it or not.' Couldn't agree more. I wasn't going to say anything (as you will have read), but I will say this: I think Julie (and others) are wrong in thinking the band owe them something. I admit, I'd be annoyed if I couldn't see my favourite band, but let's face it, you have to live with it - don't shoot the messenger (ie Neil). My absolute favouritest band is The Smiths, and I've got absolutely zero chance of seeing them! This, however, is life. Neil's response, however, was frankly disgusting, and you'd think someone representing the band would reply with a little more dignity than that. I suppose you could argue that he's tried that and just got abuse back (which was wrong - I don't think he deserved to be the target of everyone's frustration in the first place), but to go so out and out abusive is just out of order. But there you go. I'm probably next in line for a long e-mail full of 'fuck's now, and probably from all sides. Hooray! Anyway, now that I undeniably have made a tit out of myself, I think I'll crawl back under a rock for a while and dodge all the eggs which will doubtless be thrown my way. Stop arguing everyone - it's pointless and unpleasant. Marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Tue Aug 7 18:54:01 2001 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise Lee) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:54:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: rain rain go away Message-ID: <007401c11f69$f273ff80$b5d1193e@lee> so at least with all this free skint time i can sit in the garden.......and turn a lesser shade of pale.... so like, any one got any interesting money making schemes for the skint such as me? anyone wanna submit something to my site? http://members.tripod.co.uk/room237/index.html humph i'm bored lou http://members.tripod.co.uk/room237/index.html http://www.livejournal.com/~flamingkitties +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Tue Aug 7 18:58:19 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:58:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S NEWSFLASH! READ THIS POST! Message-ID: <003901c11f6e$617362a0$7b225ad4@pbncomputer> Sorry for resorting to such lame methods to get your attention but if I have I would like to say: STOP BANGING ON ABOUT TOUR DATES YOU BUGGERS! A few people in Britain expressed a little remorse in one or two posts about towns in which B&S weren't playing, but you Americans, with all due respect, are becoming very very dull, so stop it. After a hard days work the last thing I want is my inbox clogged up with whining, moaning and self pity. America is a whopping great place, how can you possibly expect them to play near you? If you're a true fan, take a freakin' week off work and make it a little holiday. You all have many cool things in America which we do not so stop boing us, please. I really want to hear about cool things from you, tales, stories, juicy gossip, musings, points of view, general banter etc. but at the moment I've got so many posts to br read that if I scan them and see the words "East Coast" I can't hit delete fast enough, so I'm really missing out on the cool things as well. To add to that, I delete other peoples messages who are telling you the same thing as me, which is mega unfair on them. So belt up. SINISTER would (I'm sure) by now exist even if B&S split, it would be a depressing place most probably but we would still talk to each other about cool things. Someone back me up here? Anyway, try not to even mention the Coast, please, and we can all get back to looking forward to reading our bulging inboxes without seeing it as another of today's jobs. I thought about whining to Honey (as I'm sure some have) but I thought I'd tell you sinisterbite to sinisterbite, so see this as a harsh warning. I don't like raising my e-voice, but I, like Miss Jackson, am getting p*ssed off. Yours with a stern, heavy brow Crdryby Tom P.S. I lllove you all, you know that, but children must be whipped as well as cuddled. P.P.S. I saw Bob Geldof at Meadowhall (a shopping centre) the other day. Woo! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 19:29:03 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:29:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian related post... Message-ID: ... for once. Lying in bed late night, looking at the place where the lampshade would have been if the lights were on, I decided that I haven't written an email about The Songs of Belle and Sebastian recently. So I've decided to write one. Firstly, I've been wondering whether many people like "Fold Your Hands..." very much because I do and I have a feeling that creeps onto my forehead sometimes that most people don't. I like it more than TBWTAS, even though some of its songs aren't so great. Don't ask me why because I've thought about it and I don't know. It could be the yellow cover. I like that a lot. And the hopeless folly of Beyond the Sunrise I like too. Secondly, I was thinking about the spirituality of B + S and their songs. It's something that's usually only whispered about around here. I think Belle and Sebastian's music has a spiritual element to it that is not explicit but is pretty profound. It is the spirituality I feel when I walk past the Church of This and the Church of That and the Society of Friends off the High Street, that are identical to the dentists and the vets except for their hanging signs - "The Church of This Welcomes You". Like bubbles of radon trapped in their grey, cold stones, this is the spirituality I can hear. It isn't what the songs are about, but is in the leaves if the song sings of trees, and in the glittering spokes if it sings of bikes. And I used to think it might be my record player, but it's somewhere behind the sound as well. Could Struan write these songs without knowing his own spirituality? I don't know. But I think it is a big part of that something that sits in-between the words of the songs that we can't put our fingers on. Jen Owl: >A big part of my holiday story involves illegal things like underage >drinking... "Special" Ribena, I presume... Corduroy Boy Tom: >I work in a box factory and >we make boxes. Big boxes, little boxes, long boxes, brown boxes, white >boxes... fox in socks in cardboard boxes... I've never worked in a box factory, but I did once work at one that had a Box Department. The thing to do is to find a really big box and hide in it. They won't find you for hours. It's almost Sinister's fourth birthday. Is Miss Print going to throw (hurl, possibly) a birthday party? When I was four I cried at my party because someone burst my birthday balloon. But still, to be four is quite an event. Just think, we'll be stringing coherent sentences together soon. I think that on her birthday, as many lurkers should come and knock on Sinister's door as possible. And we can all give them a big collective kiss. Maybe there will be so many emails the list will explode. It'll be just like my birthday balloon. When that balloon burst my heart was on the ceiling. love from Robin PS: I don't much like list arguments, but the current one has been pretty funny to watch. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowyminor at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 20:40:40 2001 From: snowyminor at xxx.com (Michelle R.) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The less room you give me, the more space I've got Message-ID: <20010807194040.27750.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> Man is it hot outside. It's times like these in which I wish to retreat to an Inuit village somewhere and wear snow-shoes and be cold. Or maybe that hotel in Sweden (I think it's Sweden?) that is made out of ice. Well anywhere that's nice and frosty. I know what you're thinking...'oh but when it's freezing out she'll wish it was summer.' Well I never do that because how some people like summer..I like winter, and you usually don't complain about the season you like most. And I've just spent 2 posts talking about seasons haven't I...so I'll stop. But yay for summer. So who's anxiously awaiting 'Vespertine' besides me?! Wait. Don't answer that, I know how you all can get mm hmm. But I've heard some of it and it's yummy. Ok, best Bjork video: 'All is full of love.' WHY:ohmygoodness it had Bjork robots making out. Sure it sounds sleazy, but it's actually a very beautiful video. Pure Chris Cunningham genius. and speaking of.... If you get a chance to see Sade live (and if you like her music), go! She has giant waves, galloping horses (very 'Catch the Sun'-esque), and a giant mirror ball projecting onto a screen and everything. It's not PopMart or anything, it's really classy (art deco-ish set) and twee almost, in an aggressive way. B&S content. Well I don't want to dwell on my opinion of the whole badmouthing-fans/bands that has been going on, but keep in mind that quote by Voltaire that you've all heard before, 'I dissaprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.' Anywho Moving on. How's about a poem. B&S are nice and hip Their music vids are such a trip Jonathan David is their new song Hey Stevie sings, and it's not too long All of their cd's are super class So dance like Stu and shake that ass geez that was pretty lame. But, oh well. xx Michelle mitten xx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Tue Aug 7 20:52:11 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:52:11 +1200 Subject: Sinister: an open letter of encouragement for Neil Robertson Message-ID: <002101c11f7a$a6651c80$386137d2@computer> Neil, Just to let you know that, whilst it may not seem like it, a lot of the listees here on Sinister are with you all the way. Belle & Sebastian have done pretty well for their fans as a band (despite what some listees have said), by not spreading their b-sides over 3 CDs, not doubling up their tracks on releases etc., and putting on the sort of shows which are a real "event" (or so I'm told ... I live in one of the many counties where B&S have not *yet* visited) It's sad when a minority of American-centric fans feel they have a monopoly on fandom, and even sadder that they feel the band "owes" them gigs. For heaven's sake ... if you want to be into a band that does gigantic, State spanning shows, start buying Dave Matthews Band records. American fans are no more or less important than anyone else (in the way that, as a country, American is no more important than the rest of the world, despite what a lot of it's citizens think ....) American fans, try not to worry. It's not like Neil has said B&S will *never* come back to the US. He's just asked you to be patient. Like the rest of the world has had to be patient. Hell, I'm sure B&S will be playing New York long before they ever play Auckland, New Zealand. Don't make Sinister listees sound like the sort of headcases who hang out on morrissey-solo.com And Neil ..... keep up the good work. There are a lot of us out there, silent or otherwise, who think you do a great job. cheers, Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pdx91 at xxx.com Tue Aug 7 21:55:55 2001 From: pdx91 at xxx.com (=== ===) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:55:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Rule it out! In-Reply-To: <006501c11f61$e0884400$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Message-ID: Brier Random wrote: > Yeah, when you hear the manager of your favorite sweet little band publicly > cussing out a fan, it's kinda disheartening. Whether Julie deserved it or > not. > To be fair, Neil only responded with harsh language AFTER Julie had used the following tone in her post attacking him: ".....is a little fucking idiotic. One half assed mini tour in 1998 where half the dates were cancelled.......But don't play the fucking martyr, Neil, it's not becoming.....This email from Neil Robertson is the biggest bunch of defensive garbage I've ever seen from a supposed professional in my life." To me, Belle & Sebastian have made their live shows very singular and particular events. They use a wider range of instruments than most touring bands, and bring an excellent sound person along with them who takes care to approach the live sound differently from your average band. They have literally worked for hours at sound check when I have seen them, and ended up with the ability to play at a low enough stage volume that the vocalists can stand back several feet from the microphones and project without the usual muffling of breathing right into them. The result has always been that the shows sound amazing in venues that usually sound mediocre. Because of the size of the band and neccesary crew, the care they take in presentation, and the depth of their arrangements they aren't exactly suited to a "get in the van! 42 shows in 40 days! next stop, Bozart!" type of touring. They are entirely worth making the time to travel to see, as the reports from the earlier shows on this tour have attested. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Wed Aug 8 00:12:13 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:12:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: neil vs. americans, sunday sunday sunday! Message-ID: <20010807231213.64918.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> I've been trying and trying to stay out of this, but I'm tired of getting posts about the following: 1) neil is wonderful 2) neil is evil 3) americans aren't better than anyone else 4) fans do/do not have any special claim on the object of their fandom to everyone who thinks julie was complaining about the lack of a b&s east coast tour, go and read her post again. here, I've made it easy for you: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00050.html about neil's response: yes, julie was harsh. but, I think it was meant to be *humorous* (albeit spot-on). even if julie called neil every name in the book (which she didn't) neil should have the restraint, maturity, and common sense not to publicly attack her. he is supposedly a professional, and professionals don't act like that, and the fact that he did is more proof in defense of julie's points. christ, I'm tired of this. let's all move on. -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 02:37:26 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:37:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Firty Uream Cumber Kwo (EXCLUSIVE world record attempt) Message-ID: <005401c11fab$136f1440$d13e7bd5@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Dear Sinister, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy. You said the Sinister archive is back on now, how far along is it? Look, I'm really flattered you would talk about B&S and here's an autograph for your sister, I wrote it on this police helmet. I'm sorry B&S won't see you at the show, they musta missed you. Don't think they did that shit intentionally just to diss you. But what's this shit you said about you like to flame people too? I say that shit just clownin dogg, c'mon - how fucked up is you? You got some issues Sinister, I think you need some picnicing, to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some. And what's this shit about Angelina Jolie and B&S are going to sing together? That type of shit'll make me really want to see them meat each other. I really think Isobel and I need each other, or maybe her bum is just full of butter. I hope you get to read this e-mail, I just hope it reaches you in time before it gets buried under 934829 posts, I think that you'll be doin' just fine if you relax a little, I'm glad B&S inspire you but Sinister why are you so mad? Try to understand, that they do want you as a fan, they just don't want you to post some crazy shit, I seen this one shit on the list a couple months ago that made me sick: Some dude was drunk and sent a load of shitty e-mails on the list and his imaginary girlfriend was in the trunk, and she was pregnant with his kid, and in the e-mail they found the address, but I can't remember who it was to Come to think about, his name was.. it was Chu. Damn! Kisses and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Julie, Neil Robertson and a few others said: >> You know....fuckin... fucking....fucking For fuck's... fuck's.... fucking... fucking... fucking... ...fucking ...fucking.. fucking.. fuck. fucking. fucking ...fuck's.. fuck.. fucking... fuckin..fuck << Marc Bloomfield said: >>I hope Sinister doesn't turn into a competition to see who can write the word 'fuck' the most in one e-mail. It seems to be heading that way<< I think, cunningly, by using the power of quoting everyone else, I have won this EXCLUSIVE world record breaking fuck-saying competition without actually swearing like a trooper myself! I am such a clever boy. (Almost as clever as the subject line.. so not that terribly clever). P.P.S.: YAY!!!! I've got a job!! Yay!! Temp agency have finally found me a crappy data entry job! Yay! It pays money and stuff woohoo! And it's for a Christmas Card company! How, um, twee. :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoffpritchard at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 06:36:24 2001 From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:36:24 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:36:38 +0100 Message-ID: <00f001c11fcc$407e6820$5a787ad5@oemcomputer> Sorry to go on but is any one else getting sick off this whole Boyzone vs Bros banter. I can't believe there has been over 67 inflammatory emails about it, especially after Honey told everyone to quit it. The post that really got on my nerves was Phil Collins', especially when he said "...and if one more fuckin two bit dumb shit Boyzone fan comes up to me and sings Father and Son, I'll shove my fist up their fuckin nose." to be fait though, he was only replying to Gloria Hunnifords insulting post "When will I be famous? Never you Gossy cretin. Ronan is god. I love him. Woo-hoo. Boyzone rule man, they made Westlife. Fuck Bros, they're shite." In my (important) opinion, I think both combos are equally wick. Bros set the standard for boyband super groups with their blues-infused rhythms and rock n roll disregard for taxation, whereas Boyzone have showed that crazee dance routines are still vital and that old songs are still really good, even today. I hope this settles all the arguments because I'm right. At the end of the day, we all love Bros and Boyzone, or why else would we be here? Don't shoot the messenger. gday ps message to myself-must read more posts +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 10:17:41 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Miss Berry rings the bell for the third round. Message-ID: <20010808091741.51756.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Right this is how I see it. Julie: heres a thought. Have you ever considered organising a tour in your life? All you need to do, cos you know, I'm betting its dead easy likes, is this: get eight people to agree on a time period when they are available for doing things like tours. sort out the following: (for eight people, minimum) hotels flights connecting flights buses car hire (possibly) food laundry promotion Also sort out transport, shipping, insurance for things those people need with them, like Amps, mikes, guitars, drum kits, violins, keyboards, etc etc etc. Arrange PA, lighting, soundman, lights person and other backstage crew types. Arrange roadie types, security to prevent fans from injuring the band or themselves. sort out merchindising, who will sell it. Arrange ticket prices, arrange fee taken (probably) by venue. discuss booking fees. Arrange ticket sellers and outlets. Arrange for session musicians for bits and peices to accompany the band on stage. Hope it all goes according to plan. Don't take or get any credit when it goes well. Get the blame when it goes wrong, even in a little way that is totally out of your control. It should only take half an hour (including a five minute break for coffee). I'm sure Neil was just not playing everywhere you wanted for a laff you know. I mean, its hardly a difficult job hes got is it? I bet hes sitting right now, enjoying sex on the beach (the cocktail) laffing at everyone, cos he knows he has the power to control everything that goes on. He makes us dance like puppets to whatever whim of his mind, and works poor B+S to the grindstone to make his money to line his pockets, until Chris begs for mercy, and Stevie passes out, sweat dribbling down his face, from exhaustion. I bet Stuart is a gibbering wreck on the verge of breakdown cos of it. Oh, and by the way, BE NICE TO RECEPTIONISTS. Theres another group of people who are expected to be mind readers and fortune tellers and you know, have telekinetic powers. grrr.. Ta. Idles (working as a temp receptionist.) ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 10:58:14 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:58:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: It's not against any religion to want to dispose of a pigeon Message-ID: <20010808095814.74775.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Sweetie pies, Honey always says about writing the sort of sinister post you'd like to read. Well, obviously, my favourite sort of post is by *ME* so here I am, back from (relative) lurkerdom. Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin. Michael Jackson is the twee-est of the twee. Not only does he have his very own personal funfair so he can eat candy fwoss and scare himself silly on the Thomas the Tank Engine ride, but when he last came to London he invited Macauley Culkin round to his penthouse suite for a teddy bears' picnic. Aw! Cute! Who wants to be like Michael Jackson, then? Not me! I think at the next Sinister picnic I'll slink across the Regents Park turf in something tight, black and low-cut. I'll slip out of my stilettos, wriggle my scarlet tipped toes and recline, pointing my bosom at the sun, and soak up her warmth while sipping Brandy Alexanders. Will you be my personal cocktail waiter? Yay! Red knicker day picnic marks four years of Sinister and two years of me being on it! Hmmm, mustn't wear the same red undies as last year. Oh, what a shame, I'll have to go shopping. Should one wear big pants or a g-string? What is your preference? I suppose it depends on what you're wearing them under. I mean, I'm not sure I'd want my intimo to show under a pair of trousers that were a bit tight around the rear, although I do know of certain pervy gentlemen who like to see a visible panty line. Oh, the decisions! I need some advice here, people! Gorgeously dressed Sinisterines Miss Velocity, Miss Sally, Miss Honey, Miss Pauline Shivers, Miss Ken, what should I do? Maybe I need a little wristband that, instead of saying WWJD, says WWIW (What Would Isobel Wear?) She always wears nice things. Apart from those dungaree shorts. Sister Disco met David Moore! But what I really want to know is, were photographs taken? Because I'm just desperate to know what David Moore looks like. I'm thinking of Cliff Richard. In cycling shorts. Cor! Juicy Lucy ps. The fact that I was thinking about Cliff in cycling shorts has nothing to do with the fact that I was thinking about David Moore and Peter Miller immediately beforehand. Honest. pps. Is Genevieve here yet? ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 12:02:49 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:02:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Ken Chu Ownership Society Message-ID: Ken Chu is mine, I tell you, MINE! I placed the winning bid of 76p so that makes Mr KPY Chu all mine. I am currently warming a branding iron saying "Property of Madeleine McNeil" to press into the tender flesh of his bottom. So, if anyone would care to appreciate him, do ask my permission first. A small fee will be charged for those wishing to desire/admire Ken, but I assure you it's worth every penny. I am considering opening a Ken Chu Theme Park, with attractions such as The Rollercoaster Ride, the Kenconut Shy and a hoopla game involving police helmets and a good aim. Re: my last doom-laden post about my holiday. I take it all back. The Loved One and I had a fantastic time and I only got shouted at once, and I did really deserve it. I threw one tantrum, but plead severe provocation. All those daft hills everywhere. I longed for a bit of flatness. Caravans are rather twee, I think, as they're a bit like doll's houses. Everyhting's very little and cute and it feels like playing. Even the washing up was fun (for the first two days, then the novelty wore off). I, too, have joined the ranked of the Sinister Jobseekers Club. I appled for a customer service post at the Arts Cinema in town, sixteen hours a week. I was not called for interview but am amply qualified. What do these bastard employers want? Do I need a degree and an MA to sell tickets and cornettos for �6.50 and hour? I'm not "cool" enough to work in the trendy bars in town, as it seems the only qualification required for those establishments is model good looks and a vacant stare. Vacant, I can do. Kate Moss Chic, I struggle with. Maybe the profits from the Ken Chu Theme Park can fund my nicotine and drink habits. There might even be a bit left over to fund Ken's pornography habit :) Much love Madeleine xxx PS. Thanks to Vic Vodkabird, Ken and Geoff for hilarious posts. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Wed Aug 8 14:08:52 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:08:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Slinky outfits Message-ID: Miss Alder we could go the whole hog and get red dresses to match our knickers, then we'll look like brazen hussies, wouldn't that be fun. Or maybe black dresses with red fishnets, I think the elephants would like that. Mr B you had better not buy second hand pants, yuck. Also, you might have to leave your big headed guitar at home. Chris has promised us dancing, and seeing as we are indie kids this will surely be in a teeny weeny club where they have no cloakroom, so where on earth will you put it? Peter Miller, I did lunch with my Mum yesterday and we talked about you! She also told me about a fantastic Belle & Sebastian guided tour you can go on in Barcelona. Why don't they do those in London, it's so not fair. Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. 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Name: not available URL: From Mark at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 12:53:14 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:53:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wanking and crying Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F80123168@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> That Alder minx is just trying to get you all hot and sweaty. And the best way to get a-steamy is to come to big gay Cabbage's picnic on the 25th, in Regents Park. How exciting! Is Honey going to come? We're also working on getting a little Tigermilking-style booty-shaking sorted for afterwards, so bring your dancing shoes. Madeleine McNeil just gets better and better, like a good whisky, or a trainee bookmaker. She deserves to be added to her own props list, I think. Julie and Neil - stop flirting, you guys! Get a room! Ain't love grand, etc. :-) So. What should my next karaoke performance involve then? Anyone who's seen me do it knows that I'm not too keen on three note dirges like, say, "Life is a Rollercoaster" by big gay Robbo. I need melody! I need flamboyance! I need ball-squeezing falsetto passages! And I need inspiration. Help me! I haven't listened to B&S for a few days now. Since my car got half-inched, I don't seem to have as much time for music. Are they still good? I find it hard to believe, frankly, that anyone can big up the yellow one when the green one is SOOOO good. It's take 3 years to properly appreciate it, but cor, what an album. Apart from the StuD song which doesn't really fit in. Hmm. Perhaps we should all go back several years in the archives and discuss things that were radical and exciting THEN. I have all the best ideas, me. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toescantalk at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 14:16:10 2001 From: toescantalk at xxx.com (toescantalk at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 13:16:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: Wanking and crying Message-ID: > So. What should my next karaoke performance involve then? Anyone who's > seen me do it knows that I'm not too keen on three note dirges like, > say, "Life is a Rollercoaster" by big gay Robbo. I need melody! I need > flamboyance! I need ball-squeezing falsetto passages! And I need > inspiration. Help me! Look I can do more than 3 notes I just happen to be obsessed with Ronan Keating. It's not a bad thing to be obsessed with. He used to be a right little tiger and now he's a very clean cut boy. An example to us all. In fact next month I'm doing a tour of Ireland, specifically to places that were important to Ronan in the Rollercoaster ride that has been his life. Hopefully that will involve a few pubs. Talking of rollercoasters are there any bad songs with Rollercoaster in the title? B&S (look I've mentioned them!), Bewitched, Ronan, Showaddywaddy, Red House Painters. All fantastic songs I think we'll all agree on. Anyway, I thoroughly recommend reading Life is a Rollercoaster the autobiography of "The Man" it really is a treat and lets you get to know the real Ronan. Amazon.com gives it 5 stars, and the only other book I've seen on their that gets close is about fisting. Though I'm sure some of those reviews aren't taking it seriously... Oh and back to karaoke I have moved on from Ronan. As Ronan has himself move on from the Boyzone days, he's out conquering America, maybe even the East Coast, and I'm singing Westife songs. Well a Westlife covered song that give Billy Joel a reason to exist. Which isn't easy. Being all of Westlife at once really is a thrill. A bit like having your cake, eating it and smearing it into.... Oh but don't worry Ronan and I are still very close... On another note I'm going to the zoo in a week. I shall be there before 2:30pm as that's penguin feeding time. Fishcakes all round! Te ra, Martin ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Wed Aug 8 13:36:44 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:36:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: pRetty in PinK... (special issue for Juicy-Luscious-Lucy) In-Reply-To: <20010808095814.74775.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010808123644.48754.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Hello the sinisterical types Oh dear I can't believe I'm posting again that wasn't my intention at all, I promise you you see it's like your fave food you can't have it everyday or you'll be all sick and fagged with it But blame Miss Juicy-Luscious-Lucy for that, as I couldn't resist to her post So it's sinisteR's 4th BiRthday on the 25th August and you're going to have a picnic that day a picnic I wouldn't be able to attend!! Grrr talking about red KnickeRs got me thinking why should it be a red knickers' birthday again? Don't you think that we should wear different colour every year? I do we don't have to wear the same red knickers we had on last year.. that would be boring or "that is sooo last year, daaarling!!"... I suggest that each birthday should have its own colour thinking about it I ended up with PiNK pink has many shades innocent pink, twee pink, tarty pink, luxurious pink, posh pink you name it aww I remember last year's picnic being there with my Carey trying to sit down in such a ladylike way that wouldn't let us flash our red knickers well, from some point on we couldn't help it really as we were too pissed to care which reminded me again of that deadkennedys' song called "too drunk to f**k".. isn't that hilarious?? I think it is so we were too pissed to care My mind has the tendency to drift mmmm so what were we talking about? Oh yes! Pink knickers so my lovelies, I did some serious research and ended up with these three designs: This one which come in a pink shade called "whisper pink"; very appropriate for the twee types: http://www2.victoriassecret.com/proddisplay/?prnbr=73-131396&cgname=OSPNTBIKZZZ And then this one that comes - that is a thong, mind - in a shade of pink that is called "colette pink" mmm a bit tarty eh? And it has a "v-logo" on the bum which I think is great mm a "v" like Vel maybe?? http://www2.victoriassecret.com/proddisplay/?prnbr=73-146895&cgname=OSPNTTHGZZZ And last but not least, this one which I think would suit both twee and tarty hehe what a combination it's a high cut actually and it comes in 3 shades of pink!! You can choose the one you think it suits best your sini-personality: http://www.gap.com/asp/product.asp?wdid=205610&wpid=569294 And Lucy I don't think visible panty lines are recommended!! No way!! How perv a gent can be to like something like that?? NO NO NO NO!! leave some space to them to cultivate this comatose imagination!! Michael Jackson twee!! Blimey!! That explains it all and I was wondering where this despise for twee was coming from!! Hehe Then we come on what to wear at the picnic mmmm decisions decisions decisions but hey!! That's what friends are for innit? So, I considered Lucy's ladylike but also fiery sini-personality and I came up with these suggestions: I've figured out that since it's an outdoors occasion you can use a casual, yet very stylish front pleated denim skirt like this one: http://www.gap.com/asp/Product.asp?wdid=201315&wpid=111549 Which would look really fab with this pink (I repeat, pink, just in case you need to remove your skirt then you can be sure that your PINK knickers would match your PINK shirt) sleeveless shirt: http://www.gap.com/asp/Product.asp?wdid=203520&wpid=116743 or something like that again in pink (of course): http://www.gap.com/asp/product.asp?wdid=202515&wpid=103293 I think Lucy, that you'd look absolutely stunning in that outfit or something close to that Alternatively, you can always visit oasis-stores and check out some nice outfits there you can always choose a wideleg jean with a stripe fine knit top and a military mac just in case it gets chilly http://www.oasis-stores.com/oasis.html Phew I hope I helped a bit hehe that was fun wasn't it? So what do you think?? SinisteR should definitely wear PINK KniCkeRs for its 4th birthday!!! Definitely!! I know I will And with that my little cherry melody pops, I'm leaving you Do take care the lot of you and please please please listen to HoneysweetestboobliciousMummy when she talks Hugs, Vel xxx PS: WE love YOU Neil!! We mean it!! "WaR is the last possible creative act" IF ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougalshaw at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 16:05:47 2001 From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:05:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I've solved it! Message-ID: This thing goes pretty deep. To understand this whole issue of touring schedules we have to look a little further back. During the Scottish tour, B and S deliberatley snubbed the capital, Edinburgh, which lies (proudly) on the East coast. They played two dates in their hometown of grubby Glasgow, forcing people (like myself) to make the humiliating journey from Edinburgh to rival Glasgow to see our favourite band. This is the genesis of B and S' anti-East Coast mentality. Their cavalier attitude to New York parallels their disdain for Edinburgh - just because we have the parliament, and New York has the Strokes! B and S are fundamentally an anti-East Coast band. This Coastal divide has plagued the rap industry in America. I just pray to God Stuart Murdoch isn't in any danger in California. I believe Suge Knight is just out of prison as well. Are our American comrades willing to take a bullet for the author of Fox in the Snow? Talking about missing out on the band, I have personally suffered a more depressing fate than NY. I had booked flights to go to California before the tour was announced, and I arrive just as the band are leaving. I think we should just be stoic about theses things. Belle and Sebastian are an unorthodox band, so perhaps we should accept that their touring schedule is not as orthodox and tightly regimented as Pearl Jam's, or Mr. Judas Priest's. I think there is no way they would pass up the opportunity to play the East Coast. Belle and Sebastian, like many Scots, have a fascination with America. Hence all the references to America on TBWTAS and Stuart Murdoch's unhealthy interest in baseball. dougal _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 18:50:02 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Don't be talking to me about that crowd Message-ID: <20010808175002.11448.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> Muslin prints, silk, dames and dowagers, jingle of harnesses, hoofthuda lowringing in the baking causeway. HMV Dublin is still there 10 years on. It has tons of good records - about 20 different LPs by Ella Fitzgerald. I was a tad surprised. They have some Lloyd Cole LPs, too. Readers in Ireland should go and buy them. Readers in England should stop and buy them. The rainstorms blasting across Merrion Square. Declan Kiberd out in paperback, though not in person. The invisibility of the baths in Tara Street. Baths? What baths? Perhaps the map just meant that the apartment building contained baths. Then why didn't it add: 'cookers'? 'Tara Street' remains a lovely name, I've always said it. The two hours' schlepp South in the midst of the night. The nonchalance with which Bewley's have a James Joyce Room with no other reference to the man. The lights of Dun Laoghaire and the Pigeon House receding through the rain from the deck of the Ulysses. (Yes - the Ulysses.) Nora Barnacle's Food Emporium. Why does Boylan's Brasserie sell Buck Mulligan's Chicken? Why chicken? 'My father's a bird'. The children who discussed Titanic. - I heard that it wasn't true when they were sailing, but it was true when they sank. - How could they have sunk if they weren't sailing? Honestly, the perversity of that one reminded me of Myles. Maybe it was cos I had Myles in my hand at the time, like a divil for the books. The Kaiser said that maybe we should write about things from the archives. But Kaiser - I do! Maybe I should join his foot. ball. team. Then I might catch up with where he's headed. He's heading for 1998. That's OK, but I still think we should aim for a bit further back. Cabbage boiled over and talked about picknickers. Name your colour, son, and don't change it. It's like taking a pen. The Velocity Girl surprised us all with her skilful imitations of Catholic hack Burgess. She left a load of fashion tips that I couldn't follow. She certainly is front, I mean, back, I mean, de retour. Anne Bancroft used the new verb 'geehawed', and said that people on sinister were gradually becoming more familiar. The thing is, in my case they're gradually becoming *less* familiar. She also said that folk were in a tizzy about B&S playing. And they are, but heaven knows I'm not. I'm more excited about the results of the Barcelona Summit. Was a plastic-guitar treaty signed? And did protesters lurk beyond the lines of riot gas and tear police, crying "I speet on your 70s WHO references!! and "Your All Things Must Pass blows!"? Honey said we needed more 'flaming'. I agree, it's good. Here goes: Edna Welthorpe is a reactionary cow who probably voted for Perot. That's how 'dumb' she is! Plus, she never posts, also. She's probably not even reading this. You know why? She can't read! Cor. More of that later. Meantime, I have to go back to HMV and think about David Jones and Leicester City Bowie. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Wed Aug 8 19:01:44 2001 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (craigrm) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:01:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: SecretUnderwearSpotting Message-ID: <3B7243E4@www.twigger.co.uk> Can the list really be 4 years old ?!? ... blimey you take your eyes off them for a second and all of a sudden they've grown-up. It won't be long before Sinister starts staying out all night without phoning home and hanging around with a rough crowd causing no end of grief for poor list mummy Honey as most awkward adolescents seem to do. Fortunately it's probably just a phase and little Sini will soon grow out of it. On behalf of 50% of the population (namely the males) I'd like to beg for less strict picnic underwear guidelines as most boys underwear is spectacularly unattractive. No slinky red satin knickers for us, noooo not at all and in many ways it's like the last 20 years just didn't happen underwear-wise. Sceptics need look no further than the men's underwear/socks section next time you're in M&S and you'll be confronted by a montage of faded blues, sickly grays and tragic taupe's. All vastly more suited to a damp, poorly heated bedsit in [insert name of your favourite drab town] than poking out provocatively from the top of your bestest jeans at the next Sinister shindig. Anyway some content is called for I believe ..... err good to see someone called "William the Bloody" posting. Buffy and B&S go together nicely but it's probably too late to add "The Bronze - Sunnydale" to the US tour, that Richard Colburn geezer could kick some serious undead butt given half the chance. Sorry this post isn't that earth shattering, haven't done one for a while so I'm a wee bit rusty. Toodles, Craig x ps: obviously my comments about the plainness of gentlemen's undergarments doesn't apply to our Ken, we all know his pants are dead flash and shimmer like liquid gold in the pale moonlight. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 19:23:52 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:23:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Bay Area Heat....I Could Be Dreaming Message-ID: <3B7183B8.3940EA14@netopia.com> The heat is rising and the days I count until the concert melt away. This will be my 2nd post and I can honestly say, I love this madly! I went to a bar in San Jose (Which for those not aware, is south east of San Fran, across the bay) that was appropriately called "Panic". A Smiths/Brit-Pop bar every 1st and 3rd of the month. I was in pure ecstasy when "Electronic Renaissance" came on! What a great tune to dance to (The wop or any variation of the Molly Ringwald dance). A friend who had never heard of Belle and Sebastian loved it and will be purchasing "Tigermilk" today. I am glad to say folks I have recruited yet another admirer. Shall I start my own cult? The DJ continued to play such great's as The Charlatans UK, Air, Morrissey, New Order, Pulp, Suede and on and on! I have found my new spot for the time being. Hope to continue spreading good word of mouth on this great band! K :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 18:20:45 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 10:20:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: neil vs. americans, sunday sunday sunday! Message-ID: Ah, the beauty of opinions truly does lie in their similarity to assholes. Everybody's got one, though not everyone is so keen on having you share it with them. Add me to the tally of those who profess their reluctance to chime in just as they do so but I couldn't hold my tongue any longer after seeing Eric's post. I beg your tolerance in this matter because I really am acting (I hope) in the interest of the public good. My points are few and will be made as quickly as possible. Ahem, 1. "christ, I'm tired of this. let's all move on" It seems every post on this subject has contained some variation on this. It's really just an indirect way of saying "please let me have the last word". If you really want an issue to die, DON'T BRING IT UP. Learning this now will save you and your boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse a lot of grief. The trick is choosing your battles and caring more about peace than winning. 2. Mr. Robertson is one hell of a great guy. It is very nice of him and the folks at jeepster to keep us informed and reign us in when our speculation gets out of control (notice how silent they were on the issue of Isobel's head scarf though? hmmm). Did he overreact? Was he "unprofessional"? Maybe. Was he right? Definitely. Julie sounded like a brat and she aimed not at the lamentable situation but at the people she thought were responsible. Wait your turn may be hard to hear, but it's something most of us have already had to do, so suck it up. Julie would do well to phrase her complaints more carefully. I am sure many of us sympathized (not me mind; I've got a ticket) but the list rules are there for a reason and we've all been reminded of what they say about personal attacks. 3. My only complaint about Neil and some of his subsequent sinister defenders is their apparent willingness to attribute the complainants' attitude to their nationality. C'mon guys, that hurts. I personally plan to follow the Kyoto treaty to the letter. That's a slippery slope too. Perhaps you'd like to similarly generalize about the tendencies of Pakistanis or Jews? I'm not accusing anyone of any maliciousness or prejudice, just something to think about. Thanks for listening, or reading, to the few of you left who can't get enough of this psychodrama. I hope we can put this behind us soon [not now of course because see point #1 and I don't expect to get off clean after coming so close to calling Julie a brat and Neil a racist (if you read carefully you'll see I did neither)] and I really think we'll emerge stronger for it. Or just disappear. Whichever's fine with me. I never liked us much anyway. - Rinaldo ----Original Message Follows---- From: eric the half a bee Reply-To: eric the half a bee To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Sinister: neil vs. americans, sunday sunday sunday! Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:12:13 +0100 (BST) I've been trying and trying to stay out of this, but I'm tired of getting posts about the following: 1) neil is wonderful 2) neil is evil 3) americans aren't better than anyone else 4) fans do/do not have any special claim on the object of their fandom to everyone who thinks julie was complaining about the lack of a b&s east coast tour, go and read her post again. here, I've made it easy for you: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/latest/msg00050.html about neil's response: yes, julie was harsh. but, I think it was meant to be *humorous* (albeit spot-on). even if julie called neil every name in the book (which she didn't) neil should have the restraint, maturity, and common sense not to publicly attack her. he is supposedly a professional, and professionals don't act like that, and the fact that he did is more proof in defense of julie's points. christ, I'm tired of this. let's all move on. -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 19:41:32 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:41:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: What do you want to do now? Message-ID: Hello, Sinister. I've just been away. My first holiday in five years, and I come back and war seems to have broken out on Sinister. Lovely. I don't understand what these people are whining about; Scarborough, Aberdeen and Ipswich are *all* on the east coast. Personally, I think they should have played Cleethorpes Pier, but you can't have everything. So, I went on holiday. Normally I live in Scotland, but I decided to spend the weekend in England, just for the hell of it. I decided to visit Ealing, just because it's one of those places that nobody ever goes for their holiday. I book my tickets and everything, and then war breaks out there too. Still, I went anyway, and only *half* the place was cordoned off. The *real* reason I decided to go to Ealing on holiday was that I got invited to a party there. So, I went to the party, and drank far too much. After volunteering to escort someone back to the tube, I returned to the party, but passed out in the garden. In the rain. For four hours. Eventually the host dragged me back inside and sat me on the stairs whilst he went off snogging a cute boy he works with. His Dutch flatmate wrapped me in a sleeping bag, and I sat their staring into space until there was enough level space free inside for me to pass out again. So, if anyone was at a party in west London on Saturday and remembers seeing someone with hair in bunches, exceedingly drunk and half-covered in mud, then please forget it as soon as you can. It wasn't me, honest. Still, I had a good Rest Of The Time down in England, because I got to be a tourist and go round all the standard-issue tourist places like the British Museum and Tate Modern. I didn't have time to see the Vermeer exhibition at the National Gallery though, and I just couldn't be arsed queuing for that big ferris-wheel thing. I did see someone with an Ampersand t-shirt, though, waiting for a bus on Buckingham Palace Road. I wanted to stop and say "Oooh! B&S!", but I was too shy. The subject line, incidentally, is a phrase that Dimitra told me she likes. Well, one she heard a lot, or something, anyway. Somehow, I have gained grazes all over my elbows. I think it must have happened when I was drunk. Well, I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow to meet another listee, Johnjohn from Dingwall. I hope he's not too scary. bye, people Will -- ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 20:55:39 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 15:55:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Ick Message-ID: Dearest Sinister, This whole upheaval about touring and such has left me feeling quite drained and shaken. I must say, being an American (had no choice, now, did I?) I do dislike hearing a word like "American-centric." It may be true for some, but certainly not for all. Now, not to start another flaming debate, but really, I'm so *sad* to hear of such stereotyping. It's terribly unfair, even if warranted on some levels. Oh well. Moving on. . . (those are key words). . . I'm slacking off at work once again. I have approximately 12 more minutes to do so. I'm trying to keep healthy boundaries. I decided to write all you lovely people, because I like you. I trust that those who sauntered off to Spain for a weekend of musical luxury enjoyed themselves greatly. Oh, and Mr. Mikkelson: I SAW THE FLY EPISODE. That was just an aside, but had to be done. This past Sunday, I leapt into a car and headed out for the open road. Call it a Jack Keroac moment. I needed freedom. Actually I was in search of the perfect, metaphorical photo of "where I live." Don't know what possessed me. I don't even know that I'm artistically equipped to attempt such a highbrow thing. But dammit, I rose to the occassion. I think. We'll see when I get the pictures back. The nice bit was driving on backroads through all those towns (Congress, Jerome, Peeples Valley - they can't spell there, apparantly) that literally have a roadside restaurant and a gas station. God, I love the countryside. Even more exciting was a sign that read, "Dead things back Alive: Antiques." Ooooh, I would've loved to see what graced the shelves of that clapboard hole. Too bad it was Sunday. Maybe next time. Well, my 12 minutes of bullsh*t are up, I'm afraid. I'd tell you how excited I was to receive my SF tickets in the mail, but I don't particularly want to add fuel to the fire. Much love, really. Shannon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 21:23:05 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: bye bye miss american pie Message-ID: <17352367.997302185193.JavaMail.imail@scorch.excite.com> hello sinister. i haven't been here for a week or so, and i must say the recent disharmony reminds me of a sweet little, probably uninteresting, story about me. when i was a wee girl, i had a seemingly undying obsession with barbie dolls. when i got my allowance, i went to the store to buy my dolls the heights of barbie fashion -- feather boas, sequined gowns, hundreds of pairs of small yellow and pink and blue high heels. i never cut their hair, and they were all beauty queens in their own rights. i was lucky enough to have a horse for my barbies, this tan colored animal with combable mane and tail, legs frrozen permanently in a canter or trot, or, when ken was riding, gallop. natursally, when the new western barbie hit the market, i was only too ready to join the other girls who were after that hot fringed, faux-suede jacket and pink cowgirl boots. (eventually it becomes less about the doll than the clothes) little lindsey's birthday was just around the corner, and western barbie was at the top of my want list. so imagine my dismay when, after all the gifts were opened, i received no barbie. no -- the clothes and books and other things my family had chosen just for me were not good enough. so i did what every girl would do -- shut myself in the bathroom and cried. course, when my grandmother saw my disappointment, she bought me the damn thing, much to my mother's chagrin (she was hoping i would get a fresh birthday lesson in both gratitude and humility, i think). and i think i did -- my grandma had a horribly disappointed look on her face when i was being such a baby. i never could appreciate that fringed jacket, which is probably why i lost it. and my selfishness was no one else's fault but my own. i had to eat it, like that congealed piece of cheese we americans get with our apple pie. music, i fear, doesn't have a nationality, just as sinister doesn't. i listen to music and come to sinister to come to a land where the sun is always shining and no one will cast me away because i wasn't a cheerleader or not twee enough or not someone you wish i could be. so don't complain because you didn't get your barbie or you live in america or that your music isn't good enough or close enough or real enough. because it never will be. get used to it, dears, and play nice. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Wed Aug 8 21:38:40 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:38:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Warning: Contains Language Message-ID: <003301c1204a$1f871620$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> Hullo Sinister children, I trust we have all been sinister this past week? Well, I have a confession, I haven't been very sinister. It is far too hot to be sinister this week. There will be an announcment about the Great Lakes Picnic in a day or two, be patient. At the moment it looks like the best location is South Bend, Indianna. I will have more info when it becomes available. Firstly, anyone interested in some pictures from the Aberdeen and Perth gigs can go to: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/jgilmer2001 There's a really nice photo of Stu on-stage that I'm quite fond of. There's also some other photos from my vacation. You can scroll down and hit 'Show All' to see all the pics on one page. Onwards... In the midst of all this list tension and anger Lacivious Lucy and Saucy Sally started talking about their knickers, this is a good thing, a very good thing. A good knickers convo beats an east-west arguement every time. And who can stay mad when talking about sinister knickers? Craig had a good point, male underwear is completely boring, and that is as it should be. Give me a nice comfy pair of boxers any day over some of the uncomfortable (but lovely looking) knickers the poor, put upon lasses must wear. Speaking of knickers, I'm siting here listening to "Cherubs" by Arab Strap, for those that haven't heard it, it sounds a bit like a pretty blond with dirty knickers, that is to say, it sounds sexy and wrong and heathen and I love it. It's the kind of song that makes me want to be dancing in some smokey basement club crushed up against raver boys and girls. On the subject of dirty knickers and pretty girls, I have to say again that I think Angelina Jolie singing with Belle and Sebastian is nothing less than sheer brilliance. I'd buy that record. Hell, I'd pay to see the live show. Of course, the tabloids would be the most fun. The rumours of love triangles and a jealous Billy Bob and sex scandels and drug scandels. Oh, it'd be too much fun. They must do this for the amusment factor alone. Billy Bob and Angelina Jolie, American's white trash royalty. A man who beat his last wife with his Oscar statue on awards night and a woman who snogs her brother and thinks knives are sex toys. I love this country...sometimes. Othertimes I become a bit tired of it. Especailly after being in Europe and London and seeing the diversity there. One of these days I'll post about the differences I saw, and why I'd kill to live over there as opposed to here. Going back to the topic of smokey basement clubs, spending a saturday night at the Baptiste Club (monthly at the hard to find Tatty Bogle Club in Soho) with my friends from London was one of the highlights of my visit across the pond, right up there with catching B&S play. They play brilliant indie tunes all night and charge far too much for drinks, it's ace. Ken Chu said: "I have won this EXCLUSIVE world record breaking fuck-saying competition" I think I'd win in a cussing duel, my fuck-fu is mad deadly, but I won't call Ken out this time, because his "Stan" sampling post was nothing less than pure brilliance. If I ever meet Ken I'll buy him a Red Bull and vodka for the chuckle that post gave me. I'm drinking an energy drink called Whoop Ass at the moment, from the same people who bring us Jones Soda, it's no Red Bull, but what is? The only complaint I have about Red Bull and vodka is that the vodka buzz wears off on me faster than the Red Bull buzz, this is especially annoying at four in the morning when your vodka buzz is gone and the bar is closed and you just want to get some sleep and those seven or eight cans of Red Bull are still working their way through your system. Red Bull tastes like God's piss with caffine added, but it makes me want to dance. Methamphetamine in a can, you gotta love it. Recommended reading is "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman. The cd for this week is Drugstore's "White Magic for Lovers" because it is brilliant and I'm madly in love with the lead singer's voice. Jim "I don't know what I'd do with myself if I had to be on the lookout for the Antichrist all the goddamned time." - Fiddlegirl +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 8 22:57:58 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:57:58 Subject: Sinister: black-eyed angels swam with me. Message-ID: <143983116@spray.se> -- my b&s-site.. sort of-- http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling --- Righ tnow, it´s radiohead night on mtv2, ooh LOVELY! I´m going to see them when they come to Sweden in september. Looking forward to that one. oh yeah. They´re sending a concert with them at the moment, very good. Although, it´s only Kid A/amnesiac-songs. And I am home alone for the evening. And It´s raining. And someone called me earlier this evening and hung up after like five seconds of silence. I am so _bloody_ scared right now. God, I am SUCH a wussy. Because of me being very afraid of everything, it was a bit too much having the, sometimes, creepy songs with radiohead on as well. Yes, I know I am extremely paranoid, but just because of that phone call I am just imagining an axe-man who will attack me and slaughter me. Oh dear. i´ve watched too many movies. Tomorrow, we are a group of people who are going to have the all-american-girl-night. One of them, Amanda, is going to move to Frankfurt (germany) for two years on friday, so we are going to have like a farewell-night. First, we are going to meet up at my friend Anna´s and dump our sleeping bags, then we will take the bus into town and go to the cinema. After that, we will rent som kliché-movies (like predictable high school-comedy) and just talk and watch movies all night. Now my friends, i am going to make a mixtape that I´ll send to my big sister Mikaela for her birthday. She lives in Sutton at the moment with her SO swet boyfriend Rob and since she´s in England, I´ll have to send her something by mail. She will get a "real" present when she comes home for like a week in november. Next summer I´ll probably go to Edinborough for like that kind of educational trips for three weeks. Ooh. That would be nice. I´ve never been to Scotland, but I really look forward to it. take care my babybirds. Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 22:13:18 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:13:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: Shoes are for people who don't like their feet Message-ID: <12.10a1e817.28a3056e@aol.com> Hewwo, Well I'm off to Lahndan tomorrow, the capital of britain, where the queen and micheal portillo live and where hefner also live. I like micheal portillo, i think people should give the guy a break. After all he was in one of the first Ribena adverts, so he cant be a bad person. And that was back in the days when they actually said it gave you healthy teeth and never got sued. I met up with Jonjohn and paul today and brought my favoutite teddy bear which is in fact a dog even though everyone else i meet insists he's a rabbit. And I bought brand new trainers and we got lots of nonsense presents for amy who's ill so big hugs to her. And Will, johnjohn's not scary at all. He's luvly indeed and should be showered with hugs and affection. And to people I have to send stuff to, it's either in the post or all packaged up. Hopefully by the times you get this my new Bob the Wasp stories should be up on my site (http://www.angelfire.com/weird/mmmhowqueer) which has lots of fun things. I found this site that tells you how to make bombs. Posse girls here I come. Or maybe the glasgow art gallery. I decided that Blind Girl with a Halo by hefner is overrated and that Pull yourself together is the best song on boxing hefner apart from christian girls. And I read the plot synopsis for the new Hornblower films and it even looks like they haven't twisted it too much from the books. Not like the first four. If it hadn't been for all those naval uniforms i may have in fact not watched it. Oh and jamie bamber of course because who can resist a man who stands about in a navy uniform and looks vulnerable? Not me. (the way to jenowl's heart: appear vulnerable sometimes. oh and have shares in Ribena) Oh and also I wanted to say about something that happens to me quite a lot. Sometimes two people have an argument. Or even just one attacks the other, verbally and the other retaliates. And it's just a small thing, and it blows over. But sometimes it doesn't blow over, because people keep piling in and it gets nastier. I've been put in hospital three or four times because people do this and i've come to the conclusion that it's not nice. It's not a good attitude to have. And all of a sudden I'm seeing a similar situation elsewhere. There's no physical violence but its nearly as bad, with people all piling in because two people had a dispute. And this all made sense in my head so the basic jist of everything is stop with the hate. Listen to your listmummy and stop fighting. No more. No one else says one bad thing even if you think you're right, because sometimes you have to just keep it to yourself, or even bitch about it offlist. But for gods' sake stop turning into posse kids and siding with people over something which really doesn't matter that much at all. It's scaring me. Ok that was my serious bit there. I'm off to pack for LONDON. yay. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 22:28:02 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:28:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Is It Wicked Not To Care? Message-ID: <3B71AEE1.B047D987@netopia.com> I have a complete sense of empathy for those who are not able to attend the U.S. shows for Belle and Sebastian. But as we may know, a lot of what is desired in British/ European music is unattainable for us Americans. This is a special treat as this tour is in conjunction with the release of Todd Solondz' movie "Storytelling". If you are familiar with his work, this is a great mixture of creative forces! I could see "If Your'e Feeling Sinister" as the soundscape to "Welcome To The Dollhouse". "Happiness" was a bit dark for B & S. But I presume that the next film, set in the American suburb's, will be just as twisted and daring. I am counting the days until the film, c.d. release and concert. Been listening to a lot of varying things these days- Rufus Wainwright-"Poses" Air-"10,000 MZ Legend" Travis-"The Invisible Band" Coldplay-"Parachutes" Nelly Furtado-"Whoa Nelly!" Bye all! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 22:40:34 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:40:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: satchels and hello kittie ago-go Message-ID: hello all, i was a bit scared by the big usa vs scotland thing, i hope no one presses the big red (send) button by accident. but honey was lovely and posted saying that flaming was horrid, so now i feel better. oh the london picnic was swell. there was drinking and strawberries and cherries and little cakes and a sweetie salad and even a recorder solo. but i met lots of people like Ken Chu and Sam Walton, and Lucy Alder changed her hair colour so i didn't recognise her, then when she said hello to me i did and i was a bit shocked, because she looked so different. but she said i changed my hair too, which i did. and every time i said who i posted as people said "oooh", like it meant something. me and Stuart H have been fooling around behind the bike sheds according to Chris J. well it's true but i'm not resigning from tweedykes. there was some talk about mis-typing names (archel, asm, orb etc), but i have a better story. you may remember that at the scarborough gig me and some of the rest of the york massive met struan and co. well, when it was my turn to get struan's name on a bit of paper, he asked me my name, so i said it, then (from force of habit) i spelt it. now the thing is that meeting struan was so so exciting for me, not to mention that the bloke beside me was dripping sea water onto my skirt, that i actually forgot how to spell my own name. my own four letter name. and struan had to correct me. otherwise my autograph would have said to Trar love Stuart. which might have been a bit silly. lucky that struan knew how to spell my name. vel said that we should wear pink knickers this year for sinister's birthday. i agree. i'll prolly be at reading again this year, but if carsmile steve is going to be there then that'll be ok, we can just have our own sini-birthday. and i won't be scared this time. honest. london listees, the ica has an andy warhol exhibition on featuring one edie sedgwick. you must go and find out where isobel gets all her fashion tips. pip pip, Trar aka FB X ps, my subject comes from the virgin megastore on oxford street, there was a little review with the 12" of jonathan david, and it ended like that. i thought it might have been written by a sinisterine, because i think someone works there. but anyway i thought it was appropriate. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Wed Aug 8 23:22:18 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:22:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: OT: lift to experience Message-ID: hello, will anyone be at the show in manchester on monday who wouldnt mind keeping me company? probably not... *crys in the corner just like at the white stripes :( love philip http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 02:17:52 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I spent MY summer wasted Message-ID: <20010809011752.92749.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, My name is Elise. It's very nice to meet you. If I had a tail, it would be wagging in happiness because: 1. I have graduated from the nursery! Now I can prance around the room, jumping and shouting "look what I can do". 2. I'm going to Seattle to see the b & s show next month. If anyone else is travelling an awfully long way like myself, and ends up in need of a place to lay their head, I will be at the Ace hotel Fri and Sat nights. I am told it's pretty close to the Moore Theater. Ace! and 3. I just got a haircut, and someone said I look like a space age kewpie doll. I decided to take that as a compliment. However, I don't have a tail, so I'll have to waggle my bum in happiness instead. Is anyone planning any get-togethers pre-show in Seattle? If anybody wants to cold-kick it, email me! -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 03:48:11 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:48:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: A *new* B&s Message-ID: <14.183e5777.28a353eb@aol.com> Hello people of sinisterville, I thought I would pass on the lovely knowlege that I have come to pass over. People have made a plane that can fly with INFLATABLE wings!! I know that that is random knowlege, but it is a little more interesting than hearing angry yells at eachother! How are we all on these lovely summer days? Personally, I think it is a little too hot right now, I would prefer something a bit cooler. Its too hot to run or bike, swimming has become the sport of kings. I am rather happy because my scatter-brained Hip-hop-ie sister is leaving for college in a day and a half! That means a few thing to me. I get her stereo and record player and I no longer have to deal with HER taste in the car. Thank the LORD!! Another tid-bit of info is that I have found another grate group by the name of B&S. Only it doesn't matter if we call them a duo because they really are. Brewer and Shipley is their name and I really like the tune "Witchi-Tai-to" which has catchy native American repedative lyrics. Anyways, my content is, when I went online to find some info about them, on their site they are only referred to as B&S, which totally threw me off and I thought they were talking about Belle and Sebastian, our favorite b&s... I felt really silly when I realized my mistake. God are we all die-hard fans, if we make stupid mistakes like this. Or maybe its just me.. At any rate, I am having a good day, full of fun and music. Have a good night you all. kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 04:07:18 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:07:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: all the people are dancing and they're having such fun.... Message-ID: ooh ooh great lakes picnic info coming soon! i would say i'm about to pee on myself, but everyone seems to poke fun at me when i say that....oh, i saw the strangest photograph the other day. it was on a friend's refrigerator, and it was a photo of a sign in front of a church and the sign said "REGULAR SERVICE 8:30 CLOWN SERVICE 10:30." what is a clown service? gina said the sign was just in front of a church down the road. maybe church is more fun than i remember. today i spent eight hours unpacking nearly three hundred vintage t- shirts, 150 vintage cardigans, and a load of little track and field star jackets from the late 70s. i found a navy one with rainbow stripes down the sleeves and fell madly in love with it and then a girl came in and she loved it too and bought it. poo. i also found a little mod sweater that would make a lovley minidress if i had some fancy red panties to wear with it but unfortunately i would be the only one wearing them and might even get arrested. leslie made me go swimming yesterday and i even wore a bathing suit and felt quite uncomfortable and now my skin is an icky shade of pink. leslie felt badly and bought me an ice cream cone, which helped for a moment but i need some more now so i will bid you goodnight. luv kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Thu Aug 9 08:24:29 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:24:29 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: Duca Conte Federico II da Montefeltro Message-ID: <200108090724.JAA00571@mailserver.unimi.it> Dear Sinesters back at home (and at work) after a few days of holiday in the centre of Italy. I must confess I've missed so much all the sinistrities and I've been just glad to find something like 150 message to be read in mailbox!!! nonetheless we spent same nice days even we have jumped once in a while in about an hour non-sense talking on about what to do further... which is simple a basic character of holidays with lazy (at least as me) friends. Probably this was also due to the fact we have been in the same place quite recently, which is a bit strange for me as I quite often hate do to the same things as a routine. that is what it should be considered if one takes the winter and summer holidays in the exactly the same place, same rooms almost same everything but me. After a few hours I've felt into a kind of lovesickness (and since then I've turn most f my thought to you all dear sinisters, indeed). The winter is great. I can remember walking around the walls being half a frozen penguin in the end. walking is as great as winter. Walking is magnificent since it is possible to think a lot while jumping from one place to another. Thinking in loneliness is usually brilliant as no-one cane find the missing element in the senseless speculation, which will anyway came out, finally (loneliness of the mid-distance runner?). I love to *walk*. Hence in the last days I've formulated a number of great well argued discussion of key topic about the meaning of life and so on being in tight agreement with myself, which is not that bad at the end. On the other hand is very better to walk against a freezing blowing wind that under a full bright sunshine. It was also much better to think to have someone waiting for you once you would have been back, but unfortunately, and obviously I mean for me, this was also on of my fine speculation, which as usual turns out to be as much wrong as you can imagine. Which makes me wonder if I simply walk to much...mhmhmhm... If April is the cruelest month , what about August?. In the evening we had some nice concerts, most of I've enjoyed the wonderful STEREOLAB, which was simply fantastic. the combination of the temperature and the crowd made the nights quite clammy, even thought after a few beers it can be considered acceptable. Not to say how much I would have loved to see our beloved B&S on the stage... take care gasoline and amiltripthiline stefano P.S.: In will spent a few weeks in Australia (pacific coast) being sent there for a congress (quire lucky this time). I was wondering if there is any of the sinisters which would like to meet me and spend some sinisters hours? I'll be in Brisbane from the 18 to the 24-25 Aug., and then I have no plans but I'll stay for sure till Sept. the 10th , and I will probably go to Melbourne where I have the plane back to Italy... It will be simple great to meet someone someway familiar !!! all the best your stefano :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi Università degli Studi di Milano Via Celoria 26 20133 Milano Italia/Italy Stefano.santabarbara at unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 16:43:12 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 16:43:12 Subject: Sinister: REPORT BACK: Benicassim Review Message-ID: Ello my sinister chums. Well, what a fun week I have had, because I�ve been in Benicassim, at the Festival Internacional de Benicassim. I got back yesterday, only to be greeted with 233 new emails, which I loyally trudged through, but more thoughts on some of those later. This may be a long-ish post, because I have things to say other than the BENICASSIM REVIEW. + + + + + START OF BENICASSIM GIG REVIEW + + + + + + + + Rachel Playforth said: >>>I�ve also been swimming in the sea every day this week (well except for >>>today as it was a bit nippy) and how many Londoners can say THAT? Well, I can, actually, because the festival was on the coast, and only a ten minute walk to the **warm** Mediterranean, so I swam quite a bit. Yum� Unsurprisingly, it was scorching hot, and the tent where the gig was just seemed to trap the heat. So by the time me and Hannah had stood through five mediocre bands (we arrived at the beginning to get to the front), whilst the whole tent behind us filled up to bursting point, everything was pretty packed and sweaty. Then at about 8.15pm, the music from the PA faded, and the string players came on. And then nothing happened. Then the string section went off again. The roadies had forgotten to sound-check some of the instruments and had forgotten to put out Mick�s trumpet and French horn on stage. Oh well. So about 10 minutes later, the music from the PA faded again, and the string section came on again, but this time closely followed by the band. They looked great, as ever. Struan in white short-sleeve shirt and dark grey trousers, Isobel in **that** Bob Dylan dress, etc etc. The Spanish fans were a keen lot, I�ll tell you that. There was one boy behind me and Hannah, and he screamed really hard in our ears when the band came on and then continued to do so through the first song, and I felt awful when I gave a him �shut up, please� face, because he was making us deaf. Anyway, the set was the same kind of thing as the UK tour, and here are the songs they played. From Tigermilk: My Wandering Days Are Over From TWATTYBUS: The Boy With The Arab Strap Simple Things To Make A Young Boy Sigh From FISHYCLAP: The Model Don�t Leave The Light On Baby The Wrong Girl Women�s Realm There�s Too Much Love From the EPs: Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie Legal Man Jonathan David From the Peel Sesh: The Magic Of A Kind Word My Baby�s Got Miraculous Technique Two New Songs: Wandering Alone Untitled Stevie Song Of the new songs, Wandering Alone was the better one I thought, although I thought both were grand. WA is a regular Struan song � nice, pretty, very B&S � and he needed the lyrics for it, which were produced from backstage scribbled on a piece of manuscript paper, so it must be pretty new (or very old). The other one was quite a Spanish sounding, almost country-and-western style jaunt sung by Stevie, which Hannah suggested (and I agreed) sounded like the Mavericks. But in a Good Way. The gig, overall, was just superb, and I might even venture to say it was better than the RAH, perhaps because the sound quality was better, i.e. not so much echo, and slightly louder. The band was really tight, and they seemed to be having fun. Richard gurned as only he can. Isobel looked very pretty as only she can. Struan danced as only he can. But perhaps the cutest moment in the gig came after the opening song, when a little envelope was passed from the crowd. Struan came down to collect it. It had lots of little twee stickers and the words �For Chris� written in felt-tip pens on the front, and it was really sweet. Struan gave it to Beans and he blushed� But anyway, I was trying to think was I was going to write in this post on the way home from the festival yesterday, and I think I�ve got it: The sound that B&S make is like an old, favourite, wooly jumper � it�s so comforting and familiar and such a warm-fuzzy feeling. I thought so anyway. I came away from the tent that night feeling like a proud father, which seems a tad bizarre, although I think I can justify it: In the campsite earlier that day, we were telling people to go and see B&S, and they were going, �Yeah, right, okay� rather dismissively. So when they played such a brilliant gig, I just wanted to go up to Struan and hug him and say thanks, not just for playing a great gig, but for proving to so many people how great I�d said they were. Okay, so I�m not being particularly articulate this afternoon, but hopefully you�ll get my drift. So yeah, they were fab, and we met Jordi, among other Sinisterines, and that too was fun. And that was about it � the rest of the festival was fab, too, but that�s probably the bit you guys are most interested in� + + + + + + END OF BENICASSIM GIG REVIEW + + + + + + + + + But wow! Things here are getting a bit uppity at the moment aren�t they? I totally concur with Honey and all that he said. But then again most other people probably do, too. Perhaps Honey just needs to bang some people�s heads together to make them let the subject drop. That�s all I�ll say on that. The picnic the other Saturday was fun. It was fab meeting the York massive � you are all lovely people. MIGMK�s dry wit made me chuckle lots. Indeed, Mummy I�ve Grazed My Knee said: >>>At the other end of the scale, Sam Walton was much bigger than I thought. >>>He looks like beans. I shall only take that as a compliment. But tell me Chris, what kind of beans? Mange-tout? Runner? Baked? C�mon, you�re driving me schizo here� On the same subject of the picnic, Mr Apps Ben B said: >>>There must be dozens of young hopefuls queuing up to have Asm Awlton's >>>nimble fingers dancing on their neck . I'm gonna bring percussion >>>instead. But alas, all hopes of that will be dashed next picnic, as I will bring my own geeetar. I�ll bring my trumpet too, since it was such a hit last time. I might even bring my kazoo, so I can do that bit off Mayfly. So yeah, what else has been happening? Brier Random said: >>>The only thing I can't get is the line in "My Girl's Got Miraculous >>>Technique" (which is the best song of the lot) which sounds like >>>"Pee-pee, I made a bill� I�m pretty sure the lyric is �John Peel at Maida Vale/I got my clothes dry-cleaned to commemorate the day�, but I might be wrong� Chim-Chim quoted Cake in a post. This is definitely a Good Thing. If only they�d tour the UK more. Perhaps I�ll join a Cake list and complain� And that really is about it. Sorry that this post has been so long, but I had to write about Benicassim, and well, once I got started... It�s cold here, and warm in Spain. It�s not fair. Love, Asm.x ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 18:22:06 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 9 Aug 2001 18:22:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: More about Benicassim Message-ID: <20010809172206.5324.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From brier at xxx.com Thu Aug 9 18:35:54 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:35:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S on the radio (Los Angeles) Message-ID: <008101c120f9$bea95b00$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> The first reports of *AMERICAN RADIO SESSIONS* are starting to trickle in. KCRW just announced that B&S will perform on the Morning Becomes Eclectic show on the 5th or 6th or 7th. How lucky can we get?? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Name: not available URL: From david-a-simpson at xxx.net Thu Aug 9 20:27:04 2001 From: david-a-simpson at xxx.net (David Simpson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:27:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Twee indie rockers Message-ID: <002501c1210a$269d09e0$1a14383e@oemcomputer> The following 'question' appeared in the Guardian newspaper dated Tuesday 7th August as part of a (mostly) humorous feature called Take Five: The Daily News Quiz Who are Belle and Sebastian? (a) Twee indie rockers (b) A cartoon dog and tiny chum (c) Porcelain manufacturers (d) Both (a) and (b) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david-a-simpson at xxx.net Thu Aug 9 20:32:18 2001 From: david-a-simpson at xxx.net (David Simpson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:32:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "East Coast bias" Message-ID: <002601c1210a$275d4ca0$1a14383e@oemcomputer> Hi Dougal Shaw wrote "During the Scottish tour, B and S deliberately snubbed the capital, Edinburgh, which lies (proudly) on the East coast.....This is the genesis of B and S' anti-East Coast mentality." A good theory, except they played in Aberdeen the night before they played in Glasgow, and Aberdeen's on the East coast of Scotland. We have a harbour and a beach and everything, and I could see the North Sea right now if there weren't three walls and a lot of trees in the way. So, nice try Dougal but no cigar. David A Simpson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Fri Aug 10 00:08:52 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:08:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "East Coast bias" In-Reply-To: <002601c1210a$275d4ca0$1a14383e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: on 9/8/01 20:32, David Simpson at david-a-simpson at beeb.net wrote: > A good theory, except they played in Aberdeen the night before they played > in Glasgow, and Aberdeen's on the East coast of Scotland. We have a harbour > and a beach and everything, and I could see the North Sea right now if there > weren't three walls and a lot of trees in the way. good point, David. Isn't Aberdeen on the North East of Scotland, much like New York is in America? Isn't it true that Aberdeen has more seagulls than people? Here is an article on the seagull menace: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1459000/1459804.stm . Only bicarbonate of soda can stop them. i'm trying to work out whether I should feel excited about forthcoming gigs by AIR here in Dublin. Was anyone at the recent New Order gig(s) where Gillian Gilbert was replicated by Billy Corgan? That sounds interesting. bless you all. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 00:34:58 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita 99) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:34:58 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Don't pick up the last peanut in the packet Message-ID: On the way home tonight I saw a slug trying to pull a snail. Or maybe the other way round I am not sure. Anyway they were traces of their routes on the pavement, and when I got there they were actually licking each other with passion (well slowly but you know, passionate). So I wonder if a slug is just a snail not married yet, therefore having no house. But that is not the point really. Next week my lovely friends are taking me to the zoo, and we'll go and see the bears and the crocodiles and everything. Maybe they are secretly planning to leave Larry and me there as a new attraction. Hope not. My parents are worried about my future, my love life, my diet, and probably some other stuff I forget. My mum does the "havent you met someone nice yet?" bit, while my dad goes on the "havent you got any job interviews yet?" theme, and both join for a "you know chips arent healthy dont you?" chorus. Are your parents like that? I mean, sometimes I wonder. Red knickers day should be red, for the simple reason I havent got any pink knickers. And red is a great colour anyway. David Moore met Peter Miller. How come that suddenly I feel less special? I mean from now on if we are having a "Peter Miller drawing competition" in the pub David will win because I can't draw. Gmgrlmgrlmrmgr. Jonathan David is my song of the summer. Disposable barbecues: the miracles of modern world. Elenaxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 01:00:37 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: "East Coast bias" Message-ID: <20010810000037.1889736F9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kheydt at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 02:13:09 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kirk the jerk) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:13:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Summer!?. Message-ID: <3B733520.80918A58@erols.com> FUck! I still haven't heard Jonathan David! But I'm starting a new job tomorrow! EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!! I'm DrunK! Sorry! Kirk! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Aug 10 03:14:59 2001 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:14:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: yes it's true. smut is my brother. Message-ID: <001c01c12142$42d380c0$21d590cf@woody> oh gosh oh gosh oh gosh. QUICK--what was the most eventful thing to happen in the last week on sinister? NO it was not the huge terrible disruptive debate about b&s and neil, neil and a donkey, isobel and a stairmaster, donkeys and isobel, etc. it was--the return of REE. that's reason enough to celebrate. i think, if i recall, upon seeing ree's post i changed into JAMS and danced around my room. if only all of you could have seen it. i remember, once being in #sinister and being a slight shade of bored, sending ree an email that said something like "please get in here. i need a spark." i'm sorry i harrassed ree so. so tomorrow i'm off to see radiohead and the fear of being crushed or dying from heat stroke are ravaging me. someone reassure me. tell me i'll live forever. SHORT FACT: built to spill's "perfect from now on" is just that, it's perfect. just thought i'd share. and i just watched annie hall the other day and just about cried. it didn't really strike me as a movie that one should necessarily cry at, but i almost did. i realize that i have a movie-crying problem. unfortunately it will soon develop into a book-crying problem which will evolve into a leaflet-crying problem, and then, who knows. i cried at billy elliot, a lot. last week i cried while watching rudy, had to hide my tears with a pillow and ran to the bathroom immediately as the credits began to roll. all of the girls, i.e. those that did not cry, simply laughed and laughed. i guess it's not bad having a rap as a sensitive guy, but being a constant crier (read: wuss) may be detrimental to my already deteriorating ability to score chicks. a female friend of mine the other day told me that she knew of/guessed that "lots" of girls were INTERESTED in me and i probably just didn't know. so, i ask you, chicks/girls/broads--what are the tell-tale, obvious signs of likage and/or infatuation? a flip of the hair? a twinkle in the eyes? a flip of the bum? and total fawning doesn't count. now, while i've never been fawned over, i've seen it happen enough as a third party participant to be confident that i'd pick up on such behavior if it were to grace my presence. i'm only alive for a short while. i just want answers. love the nerdy shy eyed pacifist blake http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 07:38:35 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:38:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: shalalalalala live for today Message-ID: what a strange night this was...i spent some time with an old friend and we were having a lovely slumber party watching the adventures of sebastian cole and eating swedish fish and suddenly her ex-boyfriend called in the middle of the night and announced he was coming over, and so i left quickly so as not to witness any yelling and/or kissing. now i am home again with a belly full of candy and not a drop of alcohol. they were going to build a city center here in new berlin, until a lady found an endangered sort of snake on the lot and now the plans have gone to shambles. so we will not be getting a radioshack and a fashion bug, much to my chagrin. but snakes are nice, too. i interviewed for a position as a proofreader at a magazine, and i am up against editors and english teachers and the like. rather scary, but it's an entry level position so maybe i will have an advantage next to the over-qualified. after all, i am only a girl with two years of university art classes and a curious interest in grammar. let's all hope i get a job soon...i feel the need to send a present to someone, and as soon as i am able to climb out of the financial hole i think i will ask a funny little trivia question and the winner will receive a fabulous surprise. it could be a brown argyle sweater, or a sticker book, or my presidential physical fitness badge and a bag of jellybeans. or something else entirely. so everyone keep your darling pudgy little fingers crossed that someone in a nice suit finds it in their stony heart to employ me. luv kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 10:03:12 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: photojolie, requests, me me me, johnjohns not scary, random thought about Ken Chu Message-ID: <20010810090312.52736.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> "Good morning, Sinister, how can I help you?" Hey. guess who got a job? meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Todays my last day though, and I start a new one on Monday. Its just working at reception for a big company with a big office in Embra, with loads of lovely bannisters you'd like to slide down, sept I'm scared of heights (and a few other things.. but not a lot cos I'm hard like that.) so I wouldn't slide down them myself. I'm allowed to access the net as well, cos theres not much else going on. Which means I sit here reading e mails, particularly the sinister digests every morning. Almost as good as a newspaper delivered to your door. So you know, if any of you fancy e mailing me this morning (or this afternoon) on Friday, and keeping me entertained and stuff, feel free. Okay. so, Angelina Jolie+Belle+Sebastian, huh? hmm. It could be grate. It could be awful. I mean, imagine... its going to be in loads of newspapers and stuff in the "stars gossip" columns. The little man in the newsagent will read about it in his copy of the Sun. The bus drivers will read about it in the Mirror during their tea breaks (which, incidentally, they take just as you're running late, and want the bus to drive round the corner on time). Your boss will read about it in the Mail. And the headlines will be something along the lines of "Hollywood star to duet with Brit Award Scandal Band". Only punchier, and more puns. I'm never gonna be a journo unless I can think of good headlines. Lazy Line Painter Jolie? Hmm. "Like Jolie In the Movies"? uhhh. Anyway. Then there will be this huge thing, where all these kewl wee trendies buy it, whatever it is, and then B+S will get to number 5, and there will be loads of hoohaha til Posh Spice splits her knickers and the paparazzi chase her. Then when B+S do another single or something.. what will happen? Will Chris Geddes get stalked by paparazzi when he nips out in the morning to buy his milk for his Frosties? Will Stuart Murdochs sordid lovelife get splashed across the second page, opposite some page three girl? Will Isobel Campbell reiterate Garbo's line "I vant to be alone" ? Will Mick Cooke start dating All Saints members and hang out at the Met Bar? Will Richard Colburn get asked to be a naked centrefold by Cosmopolitan magazine? More importantly, would he do it? (I dunno if I really want to know the answer to this one.) And then what? will the new legion of fickle teenypoppers drop B+S like a luke warm potato when Britney Spears releases a new single? And what of we, sinister? shall we have to pick up all the pieces when it all gets too much? Will we get laughed at in the street when it all goes down the drain, for being fans of those "one hit wonders"? I mean, we know what we're talking about, but theres a lot of folk who don't. who knows, kids, who knows. Someone said something on sinister about how there was all this America vs Scotland thing. I don't think thats acurate at all. I mean, I think at points, and I know Honey would rather I didn't analysise it, but you know, it got out of hand, turning into this nation vs nation thing. And I don't think its fair to say it was really. It was a matter of different opinions. I don't recommend it to anyone. I remember what happened last time I tried it and called America a bunch of thingies and said we should build a fence round them, and oops. I think I hit a sore point. Apparently people don't like you doing that. Dunno why not. *shrugs* And yeah, Johnjohn isn't scary. Hes lovely. I'd adopt him if I could. there was something else I was thinking of but I can't remember what it was/ is. Oh hang on.. yes I can. Ken Chus Cheerleading Squad. what colours do they wear? Ta. all for now. needing entertainment (please) idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 09:13:47 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:13:47 Subject: Sinister: A Letter from Stu Message-ID: Hello once again, Sorry to post so frequently, but there�s a little addendum to put on my Benicassim rant yesterday. There was a kind of Band Guestbook at the Festival, where bands wrote little letters, seemingly to document their thoughts during the Festival, and these were printed in a little daily free newspaper the following day, in English, and here�s how Struan�s went: �I don�t know what to write because we haven�t done anything yet. I was watching the Divine Comedy last night and Andreas and his pals came up and gave me a nice, very warm welcome, and we�re playing you at football tomorrow, so DON�T FORGET. It�s our first festival really so everybody is running into the tents and running back out again, too excited to do anything useful. And this is like doing homework because Stuart from Mogwai just came over to check me. We thought we were cool getting in the pool in our underwear last night, but this morning another group stripped in front of us and went in naked and Mick�s eyes were wide open... love Stuart Murdoch from Belle & Sebastian� Very sweet I think, especially the bit about Mick�s innocence being shattered. Anyway, I though y�all might enjoy that little tit-bit. Love, Asm.x P.S. But seriously, is the Reindeer Section record actually any good? ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 10:59:13 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:59:13 Subject: Sinister: NME Benicassim review Message-ID: Sorry! I keep finding things about the Benicassim gig on the net. Here's what the NME had to say about our favourites: "'Wandering Alone' is among the handful of new tunes showcased by Belle And Sebastian on their first Iberian show for too many years. An over-capacity, over-excited crowd is treated to a twelve-strong Glasgow army, whose forte comes with the 'Legal Man' single and an hour of breezy art school epics for our late era of suburban romance and sitcom sentimentality." I'm still trying to work out whether that's a good review or not. Anyway... This will the last you'll hear from me for a while, I promise. love, Asm.x ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 14:24:05 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:24:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Jolie and the Dream of Horses References: Message-ID: <025201c1219f$bfb1c5e0$7ca3ecd8@default> Shout shout, let it all out,Hipkids! I, for one (and quite possibly a few more than just one), am SO happy at this moment in time...Why? I'm going to see our Beloved Belles and those Sinister Sebastians in Seattle! Streaking across the sky in honour of all things most twee and delicious... and entering the ranks of superfandom (read as the new name for OCD) as I do so. How did I ever get to be so lucky? Working my (Tex)ass off all summer and saving the few pennies the community college gives me that makes me flush with bread crusts and tattered tweeshirts, that's how! Seriously, folks, the plane fares are so good right now--made one of my dearest dreams a definite reality! Hope many of you can do the same. Maybe this is just goofy (hell, isn't that what we love most about Sinister? Goofyness?)...but I just love it when B&S namecheck "lisa" in a song. Damn straight, who in hell *does* need boys when there's Lisa 'round?Any other namechecked souls feel the same? Btw, I'm not commenting much further on the subject title...it's just so darn easy to sing in place of Judy! I'll leave you with something silly (that will hopefully erase the Jolie/Judy substitution currently swirling around in your respective brains...) Know the John Cougar (how could he ever deny his "cougar-osity"?) Mellencamp song "Jack and Diane"? Well, if you want to laugh histerically, try singing the line "Suckin' on a chili dog" to EVERY line in the song! It worked for me. (I'm turning 34 on Sunday...emotional age=12, but this point is probably obvious!). Yours in geekery, Lisa from Texass +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 15:27:53 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: for blake: girls 101 Message-ID: <13863082.997453673866.JavaMail.imail@scorch.excite.com> hello sinister. after hearing from so many lovely people after my last post, i said to myself i wasn't going to post again for a bit so as to not betray the loveliness i actually might posess myself. but blake's question is just too juicy. he said: so, i ask you, chicks/girls/broads--what are the tell-tale, obvious signs of likage and/or infatuation? a flip of the hair? a twinkle in the eyes? a flip of the bum? well, blake, the fact of the matter is, we girls haven't really figured the answer to this out yet, either. most of us, i think i can venture to say, hope our eyes twinkle all the time. hair and bum flipping -- well, maybe that means she likes you. or maybe it means she has a hair in her eye or a wedgie. likage is a funny thing for the girl to express -- seventeen tells us to be confident and independent and empowered but to make sure we don't apply too much of that strawberry flavored lip goo as the hunks don't like kissing sticky things. so suffice it to say that if a girl talks to you or compliments you or asks for the time, she's probably interested in you in some way. a classic flirtation move i utilize is forearm touchage. if the girl is laughing at what you said or agreeing with you and just reaches out to touch your arm for further emphasis -- bam. you're in. we don't touch people we think are toads, and this is maybe the best thing to remember. but if i saw you at billy elliot, that'd be enough for me. sensitive, artsy twee types are in demand, my friend. at least they are in nebraska. ok. the love guru is tired and doubting that she helped, which means it's time to start jonathan david over and figure out how to burn off that doughnut i just ate. *lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 17:16:18 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:16:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: It's Been A Bloody Stupid Day....So Far Message-ID: <3B7408D2.9DDE8565@netopia.com> At work and somehow the the bay area has been consumed by the doldrums. Our skies are cloudy and it's Friday morning. The day will creep by slowly in anticipation for the weekend.. Going to Yosemite National Park as soon as I am off, and have brought along my Lazy Line Painter Jane Box Set for the trip. Will also bring along: Morrissey-"Your Arsenal", Rufus Wainwright-"Poses, Mazzy Star-"So Tonight That I Might See" and Chris Isaak-"Forever Blue". I am new to the list and am wondering if there is any Belle and Sebastian picnic's planned for the bay area? I have no idea what kind of fan base there is for B & S, as I am the only person I know who has heard of them. Am I crazy or did I read a couple of years back in Rolling Stone that "If Your'e Feeling Sinister" was in the top 100 albums of the 90's? I have many friends in Berlin and saw some posts from there, would love to say hi to all those in Berlin! Aching to go to the U.K.! Well back to the monotony of work and daydreaming! "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt." William Shakespeare Keith------------------> :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Fri Aug 10 19:46:43 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:46:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Meeting up before B&S rock the Moore Message-ID: Isn't this a beautiful day? Sitting up here in the northwest corner of the U.S. we sometimes have to wait a little longer for the summer to arrive but when it does it is glorious. Speaking of un-summery places, there has been talk recently of Aberdeen, Scotland (we've got one of those in Washington too, which you may remember was the hometown of a certain dead left-handed guitarist who isn't Jimi Hendrix). A friend of mine spent a couple years studying in Aberdeen and said it is the grayest place on earth. Not only does it have the same soulcrushingly ubiquitous cloud cover that Seattle has but it is also built almost entirely of granite, the grayest of stones, so that on a typical day it may be difficult to discern the horizon or distinguish buildings from sky. He theorized that the grayness of Aberdeen - which is credited in Seattle for our high suicide rate and heroin use - is at least partly responsible for what he observed to be a fairly common practice of, as he termed it, "drinking to total obliteration." He told me that on Friday and Saturday nights (most frequently but not exclusively) it is not too difficult to see people making their way home after the pubs close on their hands and knees. With this cautionary tale in mind, I'd like to propose a sinister happy hour on the evening of Sept. 14 before the Seattle gig. I've sometimes chidingly referred to this list as "a bunch of sensitive teenagers" (twee cynicism, sorry), but I suspect that more of us actually are of age and would be able to have a pre-gig meetup at a bar. I know the classic sinister model is a picnic but I know I'll be working that day as will probably many others so it would maybe be easier to meetup after work in the neighborhood of the theatre. There are probably half a dozen suitable places within a block of the venue. I'll go ahead and volunteer myself as organizer so feel free to email me offlist to express interest or make suggestions. Hopefully we can make it work. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Sat Aug 11 01:43:30 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:43:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: lalalalalalalaalalal lalala la allala a a a, u know the tune I mean! Message-ID: <73.114d2fbb.28a5d9b2@aol.com> Hey now Sinister. Why do I only write when I've had to much drink, or you could say I've First off Pez! when's this Newcastle picnic/pubday happening Is it next Saturday? Sorry,I was listening but earlier on today I had my brain overloaded with jobstuff and the only way to fit everything in was to clearout some less useful memory's Ouch! Tommorrow will be fun. Just the other day I was found by myself loitering in fave record shop looking toward's The Reindeer section's "Yall get scared.." so it was bought and has been playing ever since and after the tenth or so's playing I reckon it's way good and would like to stand up against all you lot and the critic's that are saying it's dull. So there...! Tommorow I'm going BBQing with lovely lady Emma at her Grandad's huge mansion,it's such a good house! It's got tennis court's and a swimming poool to swim in and a train that you can ride on round the garden, WOW hope it dos'ent rain. And lot's of new people to meet whilst drinking and playing tennis on a train in a pool. Giving out your phone number seem's to be the thing to do at the minute so...... if ever you need advice or just to tell me somthing this is it 07932150709 Ok that's it. If you've read THIS FAR you're an ABSOLUTE STAR. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Sat Aug 11 05:11:59 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:11:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Folk Festival (Michigan) & Great Lakes Picnic Message-ID: <005301c1221b$c651de40$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> In case any Michigan people don't already know this, the National Folk music and art festival is going on right now in East Lansing. It'll run saturday and sunday from 10am to something like 6pm. Anyone who can go should, it's a good time and some lovely music. Anyone who wants to grab a cup of coffee or a beer with me should drop me an email and maybe we can met up at the festival. ****Great Lakes Picnic****** Okay, nothing's set in stone, but I have my minions (well, minion - thanks david) scouting locations in and around South Bend, Indianna. Current thought points to september 1st (or the closest saturday to it if that isn't a saturday) being the planned day. Current plans surround meeting at a time to be determined and possibly (probably) camping out somewhere overnight. Camping out means that we all don't have to drive home immediatly, and that if some of us choose to drink or whatnot, we can with the assurance that we won't be driving off. If this is a bad time or place for anyone, let me know. If any of you need rides, let me know. I'm sure some of us will car pool. Anyone with camping supplies like a tent will be loved by all. Anyone with musical instrument and talent to go along with said instruments will be worshipped as living gods/goddesses. There will be Red Bull served at this picnic :P If everyone who said they could come makes it, a rough figure is about a dozen people, with the possibility of more. Again, questions or concerns can be directed at me. More later... Jim +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sat Aug 11 06:17:18 2001 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:17:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: baby i'm-a want you, baby i'm-a need you Message-ID: hey kids, well its been a while since i have posted, mainly cos i dont got much to say... exsept, that i have noticed how none of the good shows ever come to my town any more. my town being memphis... i know its hot and hummid and super ghetto-fly, but i mean that should not stop every band that i love from coming here. so anyway can any one tell me why this phenom has occoered? i'm also sad that depeche mode toured this year...david gahn is not looking himself these days...too many drugs?....not enough? and i really wanted to get to see them before its too late... i hate living here. oh well mabey i'll be hollerin at you all again.. angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sat Aug 11 11:31:10 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:31:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: undermining the military-industrial complex... Message-ID: <001c01c12250$cfda41c0$94707ad5@oemcomputer> Hi all. I wonder if Angelina Jolie's breasts could substitute as bongos for the next B&S single? Would make for an interesting live experience, that's for sure. Ok, this has to be some sort of record - I've experienced writer's block within one paragraph. Niiiiiiiice. Umm, yeah. Save to drafts and come back later, methinks... ------------- Ok, back now. I think my managers in work are the biggest bunch of hypocrites alive. They leap with the vile evilness of a Velociraptor (Velocity-raptor?) upon folk who are slightly late back from their breaks, except for smokers. Smoking seems to get you an extra five mins. Perhaps I should look into it. I almost drank alcohol for the first time in my 20 year existence. It was by accident, though, so it doesn't count, right? Right? Audiogalaxy is rather cool. It seems to be even better than Napster, and, of course, nothing could be worse than the Gnutella networks unless you have a decent modem (ie, cable or faster). Why won't the damned council let cable be installed where I live? I wanna download porn!!! Umm. I didn't say that last part, okies? No, really, I didn't! Don't give me that look! I'm trying to decide whether the Sneaker Pimps sound better with male or female vocals, but I really can't decide. I *think* make is slightly better, but not by much. Still mondo groovy and coolness. I want to buy the jukebox-look CD player I saw in the cash and carry. Oh, wow! It looks sooooooooooooo cool! It's a seven-disk changer, I believe. It has all the old 50s trimmings, and is just walking coolosity! Except for the walking part. It's almost £300, but I'm very very very tempted. Only drawback to it is that it doesn't have Minidisc. Still, I could buy a stand-alone unit for those, but I haven't even used them since I got my CD writer. Arrgh! Dilemma!!! There's nothing more fun than making custom CDs for people. I think I'm gonna stay in today and do that - I need to make about 5 people a CD each. I also have label-printing stuff, so this shall indeed be funfunfunfunfun... My hard-disk wiped and I lost all my writing (cos I was stupid and hadn't backed it up) and then 24 hours later I was invited to submit a manuscript by a publisher who'd liked my samples. Isn't that the biggest scunner ever?!? Have I bored you yet? This is my first post in a long time, so I'm kinda blinking owlishly at the sunlight after having emerged from my burrow. - Jase http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sat Aug 11 12:26:05 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:26:05 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: dear sinister, i went on a wee bus trip down south for a wee while, and had loads and heaps of fun. i met up with the fantabulastic miss jenowl, and amy�s magical boyfriend paul, who giggles & smiles at anything, and he�s a fantastic hugger.. i think amy�s a lucky girl, but i suppose they�re equally lucky.. heee paul had to go, but me & jen still had a fab time. jen is so cute & lovely & i�ve never seen eyes like hers, and she�s got an amazing boyfriend in the lovely ian hatcher, who�s looking after her just now.. and he�s got gorgeous sideburns =) anyway, we went to george square for lunch, and saw this telly reporter lady, and i wanted to go up to her and offer her some sweets, but she was being recorded, and i didn�t think it would be good if it was live.. that day was fab, and jenowl took my love & hugs, because i took her glitter me & mr gneissypoo had a super day on thursday, because i learned how train levers work a locomotive, and we had a picnic in the botanic gardens. i was allowed a nibble on his big softy, and then he noticed that there was a cute squirrel watching us, so i fed him some of my sandwich, until he came close enough to eat off my hand. i think i was making all sort of embarrassing giggly noises by then, but the squirrel was so gorgeous. i think he was full afterwards, because he never came back for food when he had to go (a dog passed) and he just went up to his tree, and curled up, and slept the afternoon away. possibly, because will & i went shopping. it started raining heavy, and it was so unbelievably gorgeous. we stood at the doors of one of hmv/virgin, and and watched as the rain hit the ground constantly, with all the wee white splashes bouncing.. it was like waves on the beach, because every few moments, there would be this larger crest of white splashes moving along the concrete. we didn�t really do too much after that, because of the weather & our buses & trains soon appearing, but thankyou mr gneiss for adopting me. yesterday i came home, but before i did, i fed some more squirrels. they weren�t quite as cute as the first one, but they did this amazing walk thing diagonal lines, so as to only come closer gradually, to make sure it was safe. at first, there was only one or two, but heaps came, and it turned into this grate squirrel dance, with them all gradually drawing nearer. i think i might have given the one with the gorgeous eyes a little more of the biscuit in the twix more than the rest.. oopsie i�m going to go� byee johnjohn x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zozefina3 at xxx.gr Sat Aug 11 19:48:16 2001 From: zozefina3 at xxx.gr (=?iso-8859-7?q?dimitra?=) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:48:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: often ending up in each others underwear too Message-ID: <20010811184816.60824.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> That, I found in the FAQ about the list.It reads: "It's a very special list - not a "resource for fans", but a community of people who love the music of Belle and Sebastian, and who usually love each other, often ending up in each others underwear too. " I used it to draw your attention; and because it seems funny and quite true; also because it says something about what I have to say. A few days ago, on the beach at Benicassim, I remembered the sunny May afternoon I joined the list. I decided to join when I came across the phrase "this is a mailing list about Belle and Sebastian, and about the lives of the people who like them" -or something like that. Where I come from, all May afternoons are sunny; this one, it was in the middle of rather grey and unhappy period of my life, when things seemed to be getting better but felt like they were getting worse (and actually were). I was missing Belle and Sebastian, the feeling about them...(the last album being eleven months ago and the next single a month ahead, not having anyone to share that feeling with -cause for my greek friends, Belle and Sebastian are "that band Dimitra is obsessed with"). So I thought the posts should feel like the songs, and i joined. I hadn't realised that would mean getting at least ten posts a day. I got quite excited. And more and more involved. I read all posts carefully. I had to beg my brother let me use the computer long enough to do that. I starting going on #sinister too -and had to beg for more time. There I started getting to know some people...and then crazy things started happening. As most things I considered important at the time was falling apart, I found myself on a train to a small (greek) town, then at its station, waiting for half an hour for a girl I'd never met before...and being sure all along she'd come. She did. And it was worth it. I had a great time. And it was just the beggining of it: it was the day things started changing for better. I had to re-invent myself in a way, to find new things to consider important. And I was so lucky as to have the chance to get on a plane and go do it elsewhere... and not just anywhere...a few days later I was travelling towards what I considered the magic land, home of the best band in the world and of Sinister... I found myself on a plane, then on some trains, then in a railway station in London, waiting for another girl I'd never met before. And it was okay -I just new there was something about it all that was right. I spend a day in London,where I tried in vain to track down a certain listee who had invited me to a party. I did manage to talk to him on the phone though, and it was a magical moment. Just because it was a sweet night and he picked it up after fifty times, when I least expected him to...well, maybe because he was nice too. Then, Sunday came, and I got a train to Scotland... where I spend what must have been the most happy days of my life. I mean it. I stayed with Belle the list puppy -and the people who live with her (and with a hamster and three guineapigs). I remember climbing up a hill with them and looking at Dundee from above... also running in a vast green field...also drinking and getting tipsy if not anything more,and walking in the rain...(hamster and giuneapigs not included). It was mostly sunny though. I spend a day in Edinburgh with Will... We wandered around,walked Princess street up and down about fifteen times, lied in three different parks, went to two different pubs...oh and climbed up the Walter Scott monument...Will thought he was useless (at least for a moment he did)- but I think he was great! We managed to get to the station on time, so I got a train back to Dundee. Next day I went to Glasgow. And it was so lovely I don't know what to say about it. Richard showed me a lot of things he could think of, but he forgot to show me Stuart's church. We sat in three different pubs but only lied down in a patch of grass by the river Clyde. We walked along many streets but not a the same one more than twice. We even drove around a little for some obscure reason. And we even found ourselves in the wrong lane opposite a bus -but it all felt so great (not the bus but everything else) that only the Smiths could have talked about it. I didn't get a train back to Dundee, I spend the night on some very kind people's sofa. The next day was Belle and Sebastian day, so we went to North Berwick to celebrate that. I won't say much cause what happened to the picnic is a secret (that most people know probably...anyway). Just imagine ten people looking quite strange and rather twee, and a dog, standing in a circle in the Edinburgh Waverley station, the people looking shy, trying not to catch each others eye and being really quiet, the dog looking bored cause she didn't get much attention. That's how it started. What I have to say is that I loved it, I had a great time, the best I can ever remember having, especially after the point it started to rain...near the end, i felt the urge to give my favourite tape to a beatiful boy... That night will be the one I will remember every time I feel miserable on a Saturday night (that is probably every seven days) and Edinburgh will be the place I will be wishing I were. After all that I went to Spain, stopping at Milton Keynes to meet everyone's favourite listee Ken Chu... who is as lovely and twee as one can be...(Kenny please get insulted by that). When we left there, I was missing him too along with everyone I had made friends with in Scotland. I remember jumping up and down when I read he found a job. I've been to Benicassim and I've seen Belle and Sebastian, but I won't bother you with that. I discovered I don't like festivals so I didn't enjoy it much. Apart from the time we saw a boy with Belle and Sebastian badges on a beach and run after him shouting "excuse me, are you on sinister?". It prooved he was -and it also prooved that's a nice way of making friends even in crazy places. We ended up getting drunk outside his tend the last day of the festival with people from eight different countries. And the next day, playing football after midnight outside the railway station in Valencia, then sleeping on the pavement. I know this is far too long, but please excuse me, I had to say this. All this. I had to, because since that night I've stopped feeling sad or scared: I feel happy just watching the world around me unravel, discovering it with the amazement and the joy of a four-year-old ;and also certain that it will all be okay. I had to, because I left a piece of my heart in Scotland: I've been missing it since the day I crossed the border (!) and it seems as I will be till the day I come back. I hope it won't be too far away. Me and Rachel, we were thinking we should thank Honey for creating the list and therefor making it possible for all these things to happen. So I did one of these days, and she said "I didn't make the list, you all did". So I thank you all. Everyone who invited me anywhere, or who put me up, or showed me around their city or helped me out; and also everyone who bought me a drink, or anything else -and Chris especially for giving me his badge. And everyone who's been lovely to me, especially those who shared their gelly beans with me. Finally, everyone out there who cares for the list and believes in it.And everyone who has read this so far. (Write me and I'll send you a present) Love,and keed the faith, Dimitra ps I was in a church the day before yesterday, and people where chanting and praying at it felt great, so I tried to pray too, and I realised the only words that were strong enough inside me were lyrics. I found myself singing Fox In The Snow. Someone said that I was singing it to god -and that if he was listening he must have loved it. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Αποκτήστε τη δωρεάν @yahoo.gr διεύθυνση σας στο http://www.otenet.gr +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Aug 11 21:02:28 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I was riding on the Mayflower when I thought I spied some LAAnnd (hic! start again) Message-ID: <20010811200228.7227.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> The last hello was affecting in the extreme. The night before that I saw the Kaiser. Kaiser, I told him, I mentioned you on sinister. He considered this inadequate. - But Pinefox, quoth he, no-one knows who 'the Kaiser' is. Still - he knows his foot. ball. But he doesn't even believe in my name. For a while there I thought I was actually going to stop at Tottenham Hale, which is more than I ever managed in the 1980s. Suspect package at Liverpool Street. Perhaps it contained the leopard from Lime Street? But heave on, train, OK! magazine and all. The magazine calls every actress �beautiful�, which is almost true. Martine McCutcheon, it was later agreed, was cherubically lovely. The boozer was full like a tin of new potatoes. It was relevant to YOU, just about. Here was Tom Ewing, helpfully warning me: you�re too late to sing. I might warn him � and you � in return: The Beard Is Back. Here was Nick Dastoor, whom you won�t remember. He�d had one or two, in the gear he won for playing in an international footy tourney in the early 80s. And as he�s not reading this, I don�t mind telling you he looked gorgeous. There was much of the supermodel about him. Ewing duetted with Edna Welthorpe � who sucks and is dumb, as reported last time � on the Pet Shop Boys. She thought we hadn't heard her. Could we hear her? I'm afraid so. The Carsmile had fulfilled a Lamacq role, singing Carter USM covers, while looking like a cross between the usual Mark E. Smith and the unusual Robert Redford. Captain the Marvel had his song stolen. If anyone's seen it, don't bring it back, for the reasons the Kaiser has already explained. It's time for the Captain to move on and conquer another Irish tune. Dmrita said Kenneth Chu was everyone's favourite listee. In the interests of balance, I feel it incumbent on me to say the Chu is by no means and in no way my favourite listee, and it would take a holocaust of certain other listees to make him so. Someone mentioned South Bend, Indiana. If I'm not mistaken, James Stewart mentions it in The Philadelphia Story, and the parodic Hepburn responds magnificently, - Why, that sounds like *dancing*! Meanwhile, Colonel Moore was back from the summit, proclaiming that a square deal for Britain had been attained, though not obtained, pending discussion at medium spirit level. That reminds me, Elena99 said 'JD' was her song of the summer: which is handy, because it is certainly not mine. Back to Mooro. I shall not comment on his ability to bring a certain energy, a certain bonhomie, a certain enthusiasm to a scene, for that would sound as sycophantic as he reputedly does on his record of Stuart Murdoch falling on top of him. Suffice to say, he was barrelling down the highway again this morning, and back again - the A12, come to think of it - doing motorway services to the world. This reminds me of what constitutes something like an event in sinister world, namely the arrival of Geneva Convention Wesley Harding. Many others have rattled on about her in the past, but I fear I have not always understood her posts, because they were written in Candadian. Yet unlike so many others, she actually managed to live up to her billing. Not for GW the half-assed, whining blend of bitchery and obscurantism that with irregular frequency passes through this town. Such fashionable vices are not hers; instead the simple virtues: honesty, modesty, openness, humour, interest. I'm not kidding - this kind of thing is a pleasant shock these days, in my dotage, my decline, my curmudgeon's century. I missed the Lloyd Cole Night that Edna organized back at the branch, but will Report Back nonetheless. Debates were held on where to begin with Lloyd. Edna and I agreed that you might as well go with Rattlesenakes, if you like Tigermilk. But we think that The Collection doesn't lack shrewdness, qua virgin acquisition. B&S were played, and people said they were great. It's a good thing I wasn't there, I might have had to find a way to disagree. Biff Bang Pow, Orange Juice and Felt were successfully dispatched, or despatched - yes, that's the man, I think - as Overrated. A Canadian university has been running courses on Archetypes in The Little Mermaid. So far three Archetypes have been identified. 1. The Mermaid (little). 2. The Fish. 3. The Octopus. More to follow after marine research. Meanwhile, a course has been analyzing the Breakdown of the Critical Essay. My editor and I held a rival summit meeting of our own, somewhere not at the very top of Ludgate Hill, and agreed to blame Roland Barthes' fragmentary methods. It was reported that The Care Bear had gone for a job by telephone interview. But *did she dress up for the occasion?* We don't know. White socks in perry-boy comeback. To the Mayflower, on what was a summer afternoon withal, Mooro brought along a gorgeous green and yellow CD. His copy had Times on it, which is more than I can say for mine (there just wasn't Time). 8:49 for Stansted, not to be confused with Paddington. I heard that Honey had said something about my tummy. I wish I could remember *why*. Reports Back on Cookie's Kilt will have to wait for the return of those who have seen beneath it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evilmoonchild at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 01:39:11 2001 From: evilmoonchild at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Moon=20Child?=) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:39:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Oh No.. Its late and I have to think of a Subject Line.... Hmmmm Message-ID: <20010812003911.33036.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sinister, Its getting quite late, and I'm waiting for the Graduate to finish on TV, so I thought I'd write you a letter. So here it is. I'm not quite sure what to write about though. Oh that's nice.. they've just got on the bus (at the end of the film). I like Simon and Garfunkel. I was put off at first by Garfunkel's name, but I managed to get over that after repeated listenings of "The Definitive....". I remember, I took the tape down to the National Youth Arts Festival '98, and lay down on the grass outside of the caravan, with tears in my eyes and midgie bites on my arms. I'm looking for some advice, by the way. If anyone has got an insight into the following matter, or simply has a bit of free time, how about helping me out? A year from now I'll be going to university. The problem is I don't have the faintest idea which course to take... maybe someone can offer some suggestions. Im taking Art, Music and Religious Studies for A-level, but I dont think im very good at music. Thanks everyone. Has anyone got the Raindeer Section album yet? I was thinking of getting it but all the reviews have put me off :-( Oh yeah, and someone a while ago was talking about The Strokes! I wasn't sure wether I should like them or not, what with all the praise, and then the backlash, and then the backlash to the backlash.... but I got their first EP and I love it to bits... especially Track 2. Makes me feel like dancing ( I wanna dance the night way)... Whats happening about the Newcastle picnic? I'd like to go, but I'm not sure if it's still on... So, sorry for wasting your time. I really am, ive just read back my post and ive decided i hate it. But im still going to send it. Sorry. Hugs and Kisses Owen P.S. Im still in a state of shock after my 3 hens got stolen by a cat with glowing eyes, so if you could just blame this terrible post on that? Thank you :-) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 08:52:25 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:52:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister:, A, Nice, Idea... Message-ID: It all started on a Friday night getting a little drunk. It then continued by a visit to #sinister. I met zozie-dimitra who said to me: "wouldn't it be a nice idea if I came and visited you in Scotland and then we travelled down to Spain on a train to see Belle and Sebastian? " I thought it did seem a nice idea so said: "ok" I bought an inter-rail pass, ticket for the Benicassim festival, and a new Walkman. When I bought the ticket for the festival. I wondered if the trip would really happen but it felt a nice thing to do. The ticket added extra depth to an impossible dream. A couple of weeks later I skived of work a little early to catch a train to London in order to meet Zozie. We walked for a day and half, collecting blisters, before finding a train to Dundee and after much convincing (gun pointed to head) I convinced Zozie that it is a great place to live. She then went on to visit Glasgow and Edinburgh and decided Glasgow was much nicer (not that I�m bitter or anything!) I had promised my dog that we would go to a picnic� I think she is infatuated with several people and had been going on about how she would kiss them all when we got there. Unfortunately she decided to go swimming and nobody wanted to kiss her back. Around this time I fell of the same chair twice. This has nothing to do with the rest of the story� But �when your legs are black and blue its time to take a holiday� So we started our journey, stopping off at Milton Keynes along the way. Well wouldn�t you? In case you don�t know Milton Keynes has two big attractions: 1) A club where you can play twister on stage 2) KEN! After managing to visit both of these things in one night we caught a train to Paris. There, our plans of taking an overnight train to the north of Spain were disrupted. Instead we managed to get one to Bordeaux even though it was totally in the wrong direction. I stood in front of an open window outside my cabin and watched Paris at night while wind blew in my face... things like that made me glad I didn't just fly. Somehow or other we reached Barcelona early the following evening and in between rushing around buying tickets for the next train and buying food I heard someone shout my name... I looked around and it was Vanessa from sinister... I had never seen her before in my life...weird huh?? And the next day we met more sinister people with whom we to harassed in order to share experiences such as standing at for 4 and half hours in the heat waiting for Belle and Sebastian� or sleeping on the street in Valencia with. And whom we somehow managed not to be with when they did things like play football or teach Stuart Murdoch how to dance. The last few weeks have been amazing, unforgettable and totally impossible without certain people. So thanks to: Zozie for coming up with such a nice idea for a trip Will and Gordon for satisfying my dog�s desires with another picnic Ken for being such a brilliant host Belle and Sebastian for being such a brilliant band And the biggest thanks of all to Honey for setting up this list and making all these things possible. Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 11:59:00 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:59:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I bet you're making shelves right now, or a sturdy mantelpiece Message-ID: It sounds like I missed out on something... >Martine McCutcheon, it was later agreed, >was cherubically lovely. Oh, she is! Her make-up lady spends a whole imperial hour polishing her cheeks before performances. Actually, I'm often poked at for being so common, but I *do* think she's lovely, like an angel who might work at the laundrette. She is, indeed, heavenly; I can imagine her appearing in a vision, in a celestial mist, as she opens the door of the tumble drier. >The Carsmile had fulfilled a Lamacq >role, singing Carter USM covers, while looking like a >cross between the usual Mark E. Smith and the unusual >Robert Redford. ...and all this time I was standing in the rain. Dimitra's post ("I know this is far too long") was far too short. It sounds like a quite magical adventure. Actually, this wasn't what I was supposed to be writing about at all. Those last few posts, though, were very good, and not too long. It is Sunday, after all. In a further effort to produce *content*, and so, hopefully, *contentment*, I've been thinking about Great Unsolved Belle and Sebastian Mysteries. I was going to make a list but I could only think of two, so they'll have to be a pair. 1. Shane Meadows, probably Nottingham's greatest (only) film director, was said to be making a short (ten minute?) film called The Stars of Track and Field. Wasn't he? Does anyone know anything else about this? I guess he could have given up on the idea, but it's only a short film after all. By the time the titles have faded and before the credits arrive there's not much time for anyone to even tie their shoelaces, let alone find a track or some field and become a star. So I imagine it's been filmed. So what's happened to it? 2. The Belle and Sebastian Songbook. Where is it? It exists, I know, and almost a year ago I asked if there were trumpet parts so I could play them on my trombone and the answer was 'yes'. So they knew that much then. It must be very difficult to put together, it's true, but I reckon they're all made and sitting in a box somewhere. Probably in the box that's propping up Stuart's bed after the leg fell off. Come on Stuart! Buy a new leg! 3. Yes, well then I couldn't think of anymore and I was a bit bored by then anyway, and my thoughts had already been hijacked by the Amazing Toaster Bag. The Amazing Toaster Bag is something I saw on telly that is a sort of teflon pouch that sits in a toaster that you can cook *anything* in. Honestly, ANYTHING! On the telly I saw a man put an egg and some flour and some chopped apple into a Toaster Bag and toasted it for 5 minutes and it came out as a lovely, steaming apple pie. So ever since I've been thinking of the Toaster Bag - if you've seen it it's hard not to - but they don't exist anywhere. So that's Mystery Number Three -where is the Toaster Bag? It's not B+S related at all, I know, but it's a mystery anyway. I'd sleep more easily if I knew. And on the subject of inventions, I have found myself a job. It's at the Patent Office in Wales so I will be living in or near Cardiff quite soon. Does anyone on this list live in Cardiff? It would be good to hear from you if you do, so I won't have to be a) bored or b) lonely when I get there. I might have to vanish from the list again for a while, while I do important things like buy a fridge and some new shoes. But I hope I can make a Clark Kent disappearance and reappear magically when I've sorted myself out. God, I used to write such short emails, what's happening to me? Well, if you've read this far well done, thanks for not falling asleep. Put on the kettle.It'll be time for Songs of Praise soon. Robin x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 12:30:10 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Do You Know The Way To Sand A Floor? Message-ID: <20010812113010.21543.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> The Stout was quite correct in what he said about the tumble-drier. Personally I have *always* liked McCutcheon. I don't see what's 'common' about it. He also talked about B&S films. Am I the first person, or merely the 522nd, to notice the name of Stuart Murdoch as sound engineer in the credits of The Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy? Actually, here's another mystery for Mr Stout, brought to me by my editor: why did Michael Winterbottom thank Murdoch in the credits of WONDERLAND? George Knowall said: I might as well be talking to the wall, though I have always found that remark pointless given that walls have ears. I have acquired that Salman Rushdie book that Miller was on about. I'll report back in a couple of years, if I survive. I hope Honey has been giving that Lloyd Cole collection of his a spin. I was listening to a Bacharach collection these times, and came to feel one or two doubts. Yes, I like it and all like we all do. But - some of the song's dynamics (I think I mean 'structures') seem to me less than ideal. There is too much Soul - which I Would say, wouldn't I? And for all Hal David's reputation, some of the bleedin' lyrics!! A chair is not a house, indeed. Overrated: 'The Look Of Love', 'Walk On By', 'Always Sth There To Remind Me'. Good withal: 'Close To You', 'Do you Know The Way To San Jose?' (one of the best of all, I am surprised to announce - my editor was quite correct about this), 'I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself' (as ever - but Tommy Hunt's version is NOT the one we need), 'Anyone Who Had A Heart', 'Trains and Boats and Planes'. Notebooks out: 'What The World Needs Now Is Love'. Notable: 'Make It Easy On Yourself' - where the dynamics seem to be right for once, with chorus melodies reused with different words second time around etc etc. Underrated: 'Arthur's Theme'? Is it true that Peter Miller is into Emotional Authenticity and Keeping It Real? I rather hope not. He is hardly Real enough to justify such desiderata. Is it about a bicycle? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 14:20:05 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:20:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I told them I was the EDITOR of a famous etiquette book Message-ID: <000001c12331$9d41f640$ba6c7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, UNHALFBRICKING A prize for anyone who can tell me what that heading should have been. So, the week before last we spent a week in Barcelona. What an amazing place! So many sights to see so we tried to see all of them, following the red rosettes in the pavement to every Modernista building we could. Each landmark then anchored in the memory by a personal recollection, whether it was the eyes of the captivatingly playful grey tabby kitten at the Sagrada Familia or the ferocious arguments of the green parrots in the Park Güell. Then on the last day another tour, following the footsteps of Rag, Tag & Bobtail and the depraved cherubs on the old city walls along the B&S BCN 9/97 route: pre-gig courtyard, the stage was here, the hotel there. Our guide Peter Miller, with whom we went for a drink, did lunch and went for a drink. And passed a (an?) hugely enjoyable afternoon. Its great when you finally get to meet a listee in person - they're always different to how you imagine them from their posts but on rare occasions they turn out to be even nicer. Mrs Sister Disco is really lovely too. Oh, and yeah, we did talk about YOU, but nothing bad (unless you deserved it.) Sadly due to a little accident we didn't get to see Belle and Sebastian play Benicassim despite a very kind listee (thank you Maria!) who even gave me her ticket. I'm glad for everyone that had so much fun there though. Especially Mini-Beans. PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION A lot of people at the Karaoke on Friday night were disappointed that I hadn't taken a photo of Mixmaster Miller. They prevailed on me to sketch a picture, but don't worry Peter, I can't draw so there was little interest in the result. I had thought of myself as sym- or even em-pathetic but yesterday I learned I just don't UNDERSTAND. So I will try harder: I can't bring myself to burn prints or negatives (t'would be like murder) but they are hidden from any public gaze and any scans have all been deleted. OK, Hon? Oh, I would like to second Dimitra's thanks to Princess Honey, who if she won't take credit for making the list should at least take credit (with Linda) for having nurtured the garden. WHO'S YOUR DADDY? Karaoke at The King Of Corsica featured usual suspects Mark (The Kaiser), Vicky, Ally96, (Blonde!) Lucy, Carsmile, Paul Field, Robbo, Sally, Le Troussé, P F, Elena99, Nick, and last but not least (apparently everybody's Coo Ca) Chu. I probably missed someone (as usual), so sorry to whoever you are. Also a new face: pookie59/jiffy_popper/Geneviève! Another rare occasion :) Joe put it much more beautifully than I ever could so I won't add anything to his description. Except that he in particular should have appreciated her foxiness more :) So after this last week there's only one listee left that I *really* want to meet in person. Its SO unfair that she's only toured the UK once. My old brain began to be befuddled early on, so only the haziest of recollections remain: Edna doing Morrissey doing Jarvis to Common People, Ken & Gen doing a number together (ooh, missus!), Mark as Colin Blunstone with Lucy & Geneviève on backing "oohs" & "aahs" to The Time Of The Season, in fact Mark and the impossibly slim Nick seeming to sing a lot of tunes each. I SHOOK HIS HAND* AND SAID GOODBYE Yesterday I assisted at the latter half of the second Lloyd Cole summit, held not in the James Joyce room of the Oriental Café but the terrace of a Thameside pub in Rotherhithe. Sausages were consumed, a Thames barge passed sedately by, but there was no yardarm, no watershed and maybe even drinking from noon until noon again. Shoulders featured, both Hard and soft, and arguments were tossed up without all opportunities for conflict being seized. A11 Well, M11 actually but we were forced to drive on the hard shoulder for part of the way. To the pavement of the terminal at Stansted, a pleasure tinged with a little pang of parting. Have a great week, you're in safe hands. I can't think of anything else to Report Back on, so Farewell, farewell David Moore Chelmsford, UK *Sorry boys, THEIR HANDS would have spoiled the quote +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Aug 12 16:08:31 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:08:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Yer maw's Greetin'! Croon like a ragged angel and be adored by millions. Message-ID: <3B769BEF.10A0E0D3@netscapeonline.co.uk> Actually, I was striding up from the village centre in my black suit jacket and, bypassing a pair of lovers and their dogs, I imagined that, in red chalk lines some 6" long was scrawled upon my back: "this tink doesn't even have time to look out for himself; let alone you". I'd say the 'o's were 3" diameter but more 3" major axis and 2" minor axis. Ovaline, and not the work of your average thug. I infiltrated a private party at nice'n' sleazy's. I know this because the words 'private party' were prominently displayed on the door, and the charming hostess of said do introduced herself with a big smile and invited me to leave. Nothing much going on at the garage either, so I was kinda stuck. So I had a chat with a well dressed urchin-psychopath and we discussed mental health issues. I promised that, if I did get to meet the titan of Edinburgh publishing, a Mr. John Calder, at the book festival on Tuesday evening, I'd put in a sly pitch along the lines: 'two blokes, same age, intelligence, looks... one saves the other's £20 for a hostel and they go into sleazys for a pint and get talking'. Nobody's written anything on my black suit jacket, by the way: I just checked, and there was no sweat lost over hostesses in store-rooms piled high with ageing Marshall's Amps either, covered in that wrinkly vinyl and more's the pity. No rejoining Harry &Co. either, because I lost the mobile number. Still, the 13th note was a nice new place I've never been before. I shall return. Grouch St. Judes was white russian country and I chose to loose there one poem using lots of words beginning with the letter 'p' and one copy of the 'spectator' magazine. Somewhere else I was sitting by myself and thought to hell with this so went to talk to some girls. I sat on the floor and we started a conversation. But Mr. big bouncy man had other plans. So did several others of his ilk in various establishments untill it was actually quite late at night. So I caught the train home to this Sunday afternoon, listening to Die 12 Cellisten der Berliner Philharmoniker and some wartime woman singing 'Stardust' over Glenn Miller's big band. Content? Storm in a teacup: like the gulf of Corryvreckan in the Powell-Pressburger film 'I know Where I'm Going'. I suspect the latter is more project than fact, and that more stories begin before the end is designed. Gordon ;p +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Sun Aug 12 23:41:31 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:41:31 0000 Subject: Sinister: fixation with long journeys Message-ID: Hi, Lots of people have been writing about sinister has made them smile. I think I have a sinster smile at least once a day. i guess my smiles are small though, not being a sinster celebrity. It's an odd thing isn't it, because the type of e-mails on the list mean you can think of the writers as real people as opposed to someone just blurting out a question about that favourite band. I like that, so i guess i don't mind if every mail is off topic, although I know eventually the list would collapse in a tangle of people's emotional outpourings and sexual fantasies. hehe. smutty chuckle. Girls are hardly ever allowed to be smutty are they? And I think they should be, because sex is just so funny. I just saw on ebay that two tickets for the San Fransisco show and a copy of Jonathan David are going for $113. That's a bit kerazee. Even more mad is the note below the description which says that any money bid over $63, the ticket costs + handling is for the e.p, but that would mean somebody is supposedly paying $50 for Jonathan David. Then again, $113 is not that much I guess for a big B+S glow. I have to get my a/s level results on Thursday and I am all nervous. Luckily I will be jetting off to Barcelona immediately after so that should counteract the trauma. Going for six days so i'm not sure what I'm going to fill them with since I reckon I am too poor to get into fancy museums. If anyone went to any good clubs/record shops/pretty places en route to Benicassism then I'd love to hear about them off-list. To save a poor girl and friends from europop ;) I'm just kinda wasting your precious time, Grace Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sun Aug 12 23:41:49 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Do YOU know the way to San Jose? In-Reply-To: <20010811200228.7227.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Ewing duetted with Edna Welthorpe - who sucks and is dumb, as reported > last time - on the Pet Shop Boys. Edna Welthorpe is not dumb. > Debates were held on where to begin with Lloyd. I would say start with 'Why I Love Country Music'. But how can I explain why I love these love songs? > Biff Bang Pow, Orange Juice and Felt were successfully dispatched, or > despatched - yes, that's the man, I think - as Overrated. Felt are not overrated. I don't know why LC transplanted 'Rattlesnakes' to northern CA when Maria Wyeth never made it past the desert. It was the 405, the 110, the 10, the 101, and the I-5, but never that far north. Maybe I'll even take the Pacific Coast Highway when I drive up for the SF show. Is anyone else driving up? (It's different seeing them there.) Has anyone won the contest yet? It's not just about the song. It's about Real Life, right? Cos a Google I'm Feeling Lucky search for 'editor', 'famous', 'etiquette', and 'book' returned the lyric as Mr. Moore had it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 00:10:43 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:10:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: Is this thing on? Message-ID: <7a.192909e5.28a866f3@aol.com> First post.. and quite frankly im a bit scared. I was out of the "nursery" awhile ago, but quite frankly i was too intimidated to post. Well... shall i tell you bit about myself? my name is vicky... hurrah! im from NJ. you all talk about those exotic places your from! pfft, and im just a good ol' suburb gal. yea.. so... when is bs coming to Philly or NYC? eh. thats all i can think of. bye v +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 00:26:23 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:26:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: so vicky thinks i'm a dork Message-ID: <8d.ac8875b.28a86a9f@cs.com> just because i can't be arsed to post to the list. Well Vicky here you are: I used to like storms. I really did. But yesterday the mother of all storms put the fear of God into me, oh yes it did. We're talking serious downpour for hours and hours. So of course the Radiohead show I drove hundreds of miles to see was rained out (it seems the stage is currently underwater) and my tent was submerged in a quagmire :( But I got better, just like the guy in The Holy Grail. And now it's off to a week at the shore for Cross Country Camp (joy!) and sunrises over the ocean etc. that is all brian :P +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Mon Aug 13 11:01:03 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:01:03 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: see all you soon! Message-ID: <200108131001.MAA23689@mailserver.unimi.it> Dear Sinisters Today is supposed to be last day at work...mhmhm.. which sound quite good. On the other hand I have to pack-up (which is something I don't really like to do) before leaving to the far Australia on Thursday which is something I will love to do!! It's just a dream of childhood, which becomes true... I guess most the kids (at least here in Italy, and as far as I know...) dream to go to Australia, one day. I must feel lucky, since is the University who is paying for the travel (only the plane ticket but that's enough). I'll be in Brisbane for a congress till the 24-25 august... I was wondering, if there are any sinisters down there (may I say I'm up here??), if we should meet any maybe celebrate the list birthday (even if I'm right out of the nursery.). p2 if anyone would like to receive a postcard from a lost sinister Australia, (as these would have part of my child-dream) just mail me. Take care Stefano :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi Università degli Studi di Milano Via Celoria 26 20133 Milano Italia/Italy Stefano.santabarbara at unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 15:07:55 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:37:55 +0930 Subject: Sinister: phone your mum Message-ID: My dears: LIST BIFFO I got a little bee in my bonnet about this argument that a few of us had just recently, and wrote a big rant about it. I then decided not to post it, because that would have been a Bad Thing. The only trouble is that almost posting has left me with a feeling not entirely unlike when you�re just at the point of sneezing, and somehow manage not to. Which isn�t very nice. Hence this, which I hope isn�t too blatantly just the product of an itchy �send� button. I promise I�ll go back to not posting very much, really. As for the actual unpleasantness itself, it would perhaps be best if each of you imagines that I�ve eloquently expressed complete agreement with your own particular point of view. There. I�d also like to specifically concur with whoever it was that said that everyone was just trying to get the last word on the subject. I certainly am, and I�m going to have it too. �Porpoise�. SINISTER = THE SHIT There�s been a lot of talk about the list itself lately, and how much it means to people, the charms of various celebrity listees, and so on. It�s certainly added a much needed dimension to my day-to-day in recent times, and I�ve gushed at you all before on this subject at some length. I�d therefore like to suggest that someone more technologically literate than myself sets up a fan list for sinister, where we can discuss matters of pressing importance such as the size of Ken�s arse, and whether Julie tours the West Coast often enough, or whether she should come to Australia, Japan and Iceland first. Dimitra said a whole lot of lovely things about the list, very nicely indeed, and described her trip, which sounded like an absolute dream. Possibly even a slightly dirty one. I�ll take my hat off to her, and hope that one of these days I�ll be fortunate enough to have a similar experience. For one thing, I�ve not been in any sinister underwear other than my own, and I can�t help but feel somewhat short-changed. EXCLUSIVE!!! Belle and Sebastian are definitely touring Australia very soon indeed. Actually, that�s a complete lie; I�ve got no reason to believe they will. But if they do, I dearly hope that the far-flung Australian sinister massive will get together for a picnic. Or should that be a barbie? Of course, each and every one of the rest of you would be more than welcome around to mine, should you see fit to grace our fair shores with your august presence. Personally, I�d be as happy as a clam to get out to whichever city or cities they decide to play, based on what I�ve heard from you all about the recent shows. I�ll see you there, and I�ll even compliment you on your shoes and buy you a drink as well. WHAT�S YOURS? Someone rather astutely observed on #sinister recently that sinister listees are particularly fierce and dedicated advocates of their favourite drinks. I know I�ve made mention of g&t a time or two, I dare say that there aren�t too many places where you�d hear the word �ribena� bandied about quite so freely, and I seem to remember some bloke saying something about red bull and vodka once. I thoroughly approve. It�s a good thing to have a strong opinion about, and the first step in really getting to know yourself. I�ve no time for fickle, drink-hopping sorts, and they seem to be mercifully thin on the ground in these parts. SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID Lindsey Baker said: �if the girl is laughing at what you said or agreeing with you and just reaches out to touch your arm for further emphasis -- bam. you're in.� Thanks very much for this handy pulling hint. I jotted this down next to all the other stuff that I know about girls as soon as I read it. Much appreciated. I�ll have the back of that postage stamp covered in no time, at this rate. Brier Random said: "Is there anyone else out there who adds the phrase "On the tube" after "When we're on stage..." when singing along?" I�ll have to meekly raise my hand to this one. This always catches me out when I�m warbling away in my own inimitable style. Thankfully, I only really expose the next-door neighbour to this, as my ability to actually sing anything remotely approaching the correct tune is limited at best, and only attempted in the solitude of my little room. The predictable slamming shut of next-door�s window (that shares a courtyard with my bedroom window) probably has relatively little to do with the fact that I�m singing the words from a different version of the song. Robin Stout said: "Firstly, I've been wondering whether many people like "Fold Your Hands..." very much because I do and I have a feeling that creeps onto my forehead sometimes that most people don't. I like it more than TBWTAS, even though some of its songs aren't so great.� Well, I like FYHCYWLAP quite a lot too, compared to the universe; it has some genuinely great songs on it, but I think it�s the weakest thing that the band�s done. Every other Belle and Sebastian record can safely be put into the little tray, and the play button can be pressed � when the music stops, it can then be taken out, and that�s all there is to it. Simple. There are some great songs and some good ones on all the other records, and a few that are not terrific, but only compared to the rest of the band�s output. I never really feel the need to skip anything, unless there�s a specific song for which I�m looking to indulge a hankering. Beyond the Sunrise, though, is bad compared to the universe, and needs to be skipped, I�m sorry. The problem with this is that it�s the thin end of the wedge; if you�re going to skip track 3, you may as well skip track 8. And if you�re skipping those two, then 7 and 10 don�t seem quite so indispensable, if you�re not really in the mood for them. This way of listening to records suits me just fine with lesser bands, but it�s a shame when I put this record on that I even have to worry about such things as track numbers. The album just falls into pieces when you start doing this, and it just ain�t right. Robin Stout also said: �I think Belle and Sebastian's music has a spiritual element to it that is not explicit but is pretty profound. Could Struan write these songs without knowing his own spirituality? I don't know. But I think it is a big part of that something that sits in-between the words of the songs that we can't put our fingers on." Now, I�m not a very spiritual sort of chap myself, but there does seem to be something to this. This music often reminds me, just when I need it, that there�s more going on in the world than simply the hubbub that seemingly surrounds us. It�s a simple thing: the wry smile it somehow manages to sneak onto my face, as I�m dashing along with headphones on, late for something important and stressful, with six other things on my mind. It�s a stubborn little flower growing in the cracked pavement of a busy street, motionlessly striking against the bustling grey around it. Alright, that�ll do. Stay refreshingly lemon-scented. Bulk love, -Stankin. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewbutler at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 15:57:44 2001 From: rewbutler at xxx.com (Rob Butler) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:57:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rhapsody in mauve Message-ID: Ah, the joys of working life. I'm one of the lucky ones - in a month it'll all be over and I'll be back to college to procrastinate and mull over what a wasted year I've just had. Ten months gainfully employed, and still my bank balance is adorned with 'Dr'. My plans to go South, to other hemispheres and drink Cuba Libre in the January sun - all gone to Pot. Pourri. Phileas Fog? I think they were my favourite... At least it gives me time to do the crossword - the daily commute. Bicycle, train, tube, foot. Punctures, leaves, stifling, blisters. Felt & Denim. A request - I want everyone to think of a song, band or singer named after a fabric or item of clothing. Tell me. It's my turn to set the quiz. Bear in mind (Ursa Imaginaris) that anything post-1989 is frowned upon, and anything even vaguely obscure is unrecognised. So no Felt & Denim. Pub quiz, not pop quiz. I work for people who have a company called B&S Glasgow. And B&S Edinburgh. Are B&S Edinburgh any good? No-one mentions Carson McCullers on this list any more. Odd. I saw Fonda 500 this weekend, and gave them my rattle. They're somehow different. They ooze energy and, um, a certain je ne sais quoi. It must be something they put in the Hull water. Mercury, perhaps. I also went for a walk in Regent's park, and saw some giant anteaters. This is why Regent's park is a good place for the next London picnic. I also saw some storks and swimming birds. At-Swim-Two-Birds. Well, more than two birds - and storks, which are birds too, but larger. And pigeons, which are rats with wings, apparently, but still birds. Birds were always my favourite - Crested cranes, Secretary birds, those wonderful iridescent Superb starlings - a young boy in East Africa and I was taken more with starlings than lions and elephants. Again, odd. Got to go Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 16:03:17 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Die Kanonensong Message-ID: <20010813150317.21727.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, my! That's what I said when my editor took me and Cookie (she's also Cookie's editor) to a boozer today to drink REVOLUTIONARY beer. The location was secret, you understand. The walls had pictures by Eduard (?) Artizzone, author (?) and illustrator of THE LION THAT FLEW, a book which has yet to be claimed for the twee canon. We didn't talk about YOU. We talked about FOOTBALL, I mean, Fitba. Cookie is reading an REM supplement as I tap this. If he doesn't, his REM level will drop to an unacceptable level. The other day my editor, Cookie and I went to a different boozer and undertook a scientific experiment on licensed premises. We poured beer into ourselves, inserted chips and condiments, and calculated the results of the GREATEST SONGWRITERS IN POP HISTORY list. I promised them I would present an edited version to You. I think I should perhaps delete the names who only Wrote For The Shows, because they'd sweep the board and trash all-comers. That leaves 1 McCartney 2 Costello 3 Dylan 4 Lennon 5 Morrissey / Marr 6 Bowie 7 Wilson 8 Merritt 9 Bacharach / David 10 Jagger / Richard['s'] 11 Holland / Dozier / Holland 12 Davies 13 Reed 14 Townshend 15 Robinson 16 Simon 17 King 18 Springsteen 19 Young 20 Harrison 21 Tilbrook / Difford 22 Clark 23 Morrison (V) 24 Mitchell 25 Cole Boo-hoo! Stuart Murdoch in relatively non-canonical shocker. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 16:24:54 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Calvin Johnson in New Jersey next Monday. Message-ID: <20010813152454.18202.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 16:31:28 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Calvin Johnson in New Jersey next Monday. Message-ID: <20010813153128.18565.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone, I posted this awhile ago but wanted to refresh everyone's memory since it's comming up soon. Next Monday, August 20th Calvin Johnson, the Microphones, Get the Hell out of the Way of the Volcano, and Little Wings will be performing the paper opera "the Moon is Up There" at the Manasquan Women's Club (62 Main St.). It starts at 8:30 and is $5.00. Believe me, these are some of the most innovative and extrodinary musicians of our time (not to mention Calvin who's a living legand). If anyone is in the area, please feel free to stop by because it's going to be a lot of fun, and they're not playing NYC. Thanks a lot, and I hope to see some of you there. --- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 16:35:13 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the heart is a lonely hunter Message-ID: <20010813153513.73491.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Hope your weekends were all about doing naughty things in dirty rooms, if you're into that sort of thing. Mine was, and I am. Rob said no one mentions Carson whatever-her-name-is (I always get it wrong - McCullers?) I just picked up one of her books at the library last weekend (in between dirty rooms) cause I liked the title, and to my surprise it is really good. I have a question for everyone: I like shiny things. (who doesn't?) Would it be some sort of terrible sin if I sewed orange sequins on my ampersand shirt? Just on the big ampersand part, mind. Would I look like a 12 year old? Or some sort of ultra-glam fashionista? Have a fantastic Monday everyone, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Mon Aug 13 17:40:58 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:40:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Chu MUST be destroyed! Message-ID: <004701c12416$bca820a0$dada883e@oemcomputer> On Chu to rule them all, one Chu to find them, One Chu to bring them all and in darkness bind them In the land of Primrose Hill where shadows lie. Friends, it is days now since the shadow of the West Coast tours fell upon our people. Whence it came we did not at first perceive. Words began to be whispered in secret, some spoke of Neil, and some of Julia, but few knew that the mighty Kenneth was gathering his numbers and now had the power to return! The words of Kenneth were at first soft, he spoke of piece, and offered us Red Bull Dozers greater even than those of old, but we knew his words were false and even without that knowledge, we would know he could not be trusted, for the Kenneth of old is also the eternal Kenneth, and his powers are dark indeed. It will not have escaped your notice that Kenneth has been courting the fell minions of S.G.F.C, but it is not only this for which we should be watchful. I have travelled far and, it seems, my worst fears were well founded. Not only have the sillistrations been corrupted, but even the crush votes of old are beginning to bend before his might. Already the likes of Honey, Carsmile Steve and Pine Fox are faltering. How long, I ask you, before Velocity Girl, JENOWL and even the great Llew herself are deposed. It is with all this in mind that I say 'The Chu MUST be destroyed', and with it his unclean presence. But it is a heavy burden. So heavy that none could lay it on another. I ask then, who will take the one Chu, the great Chu, and destroy it, ere more harm should come to the fair lands of Sinister? Peter p.s. listen to Eurosexuals www.bondynet.demon.co.uk/eurosexuals +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark_e_hester at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 17:31:43 2001 From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:31:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: More ease than EEEBLEE Message-ID: Think that's the right number of eeeeeeeees. Might not beeeeeeee. I'm going to see them, all being well, on Thursday. I remember the first time I heard them, on Peel, and I just thought "what's that" and even sent my friend Katie a series of txt msgs about them, such was my excitement. This has gotta be significant. I'm not normally in the habit of sending txt msgs whilst listening to the radio. There might be something special afterwards with a lot of Djs with names beginning with C, or not, we shall have to seeee. Then the Lollies come to Oxford as part of ladyfest. I have a soft spot for the lollies, since I met them at RoTa last year. There's a sneaking suspicion in my mind that they might bite this time, as I saw them at Strangefruit last time round and bands tend to be less than good when I see them after I've seen them at the Highbury Garage. That's what happened with the trembling blue stars at the Point, but they were supported on that occasion by the rather wonderful Tompaulin, so that was okay. Saw Ballboy a couple of weeks ago and was quite charmed by them. Anyone like Ballboy? I've been in germaneee. Hamburg first, then Munich. Lots of pretzels, wurst, bier and sauerkraut. What is this obseesion German radio stations have with 80s music? Steve Winwood and Icehouse abounded. I listened in vain for a Flock of Seagulls, but only saw some Alpine storks, instead. Well, I go away for a week and lots of people blow their stacks. Look at him implying cause and effect. Such hubris! Well, yeah, okay, I suppose it is. I'm going to give in to that itching temptation to ask people to be patient, yea, and soothingly, for I queued outside the Zodiac here in Oxford in 1997 to see b&s having found out about the gig THE DAY IT HAPPENED and DIDN'T GET IN (Ben Ferneyhough did), but I waited four years and got to see them at the rather more wonderful Royal Albert Hall. I have to be a traitor to my adoptive town and say that RAH beats Cowley Road hands down. Shall be at the Zodiac on Friday for Grandaddy tho, deee veee. Steve Kado, I want to see New Order too....not sure about the new single tho. mArk _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Mon Aug 13 20:23:41 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:23:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: he emerges...quietly, tamely and without causing offence Message-ID: <007a01c1242d$bd1235a0$7b225ad4@pbncomputer> I haven't shown my corduroy tail for a while after I spat and hissed and glared at a certain subject, but that seems in the past now, and to those who are still sore, "I'm sorry for being so rude. I wanted to say something to that effect, but working in a you-know-what factory gives you lots of pent-up anger which can manifest itself on sinisterbites if not careful. So sorry, it won't happen again." Well, thats the apologies done and dusted. According to Jens last post, my Ribena berry should arrive any day. I'm very very excited, which just goes to show how fun my days are! Some questions, guys: This is going to make me look like this much <----------------------> of a fool, but me and a secret other sinisteree have been wondering why Struan is called Struan. To me, it's just a way of distinguishing between the two Stuarts, but where did it start? I know honey will probably smack me as this may be list abuse, but put y'selves in my situation, would you really fancy typing "Struan" into the sinister search to find out? My computer would probably crash! If you could mail me off list, cos I don't have much time at the moment and can't always read all the posts. right, next question, not so boring... Is anyone slightly worried about the Jolie thing? I really don't want to be one of these people who only likes a band that no one else really knows about and instantly dislikes them the moment they step into the light, but... (and this is going to sound 'orrible, I know): [should it happen] Will sinister be flooded with teenyboppers? Ahh! Well, thats all, I think, yeah, thats all. Tom P.S. Is anyone else having problems with the links on Jeepster? If you are, mail please! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 21:05:45 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:05:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Eased my feet off in the sea-side fairground's DDR machine Message-ID: <005901c12433$574bc500$65f2883e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Had such a fun couple of days, last Friday went down to London for some mad karaoke action, which was fun, enjoyed washing cars with Pookie and celebrating the end of the world with "Kaiser". Then on Saturday I went down to Portsmouth for my mate's 21st birthday do, which was grate fun, had a party and then went to a RAWK club called CHAOS (, man! ), for some reason had the most fun time ever there. I found out why the next morning when I saw the half bottle of tequila I had was by then empty. And, as Terrorvision will tell you, tequila makes me happy. The next day my bloody alcohol level is probably still to high to drive, so had to stay in Portsmouth for the majority of the day so we went down to the seaside and they had arcade games and funfair rides there, and in there to my surprise they have a DDR machine so I showed off my mad skillz there. Outside one of the fairground places they have this big sign saying one of their attractions was "AMERICAN SIMULATOR", so of course we paid 2 quid to get on, as it sounded very exciting, but it was in fact just a rollercoaster simulator inside. They didn't play "The Rollercoaster Ride" by B&S either, not even on the East side of the simulator. So now I'm back, in sunny MK, and now I'm accused of being: 1) Not PF's favourite listee, which goes without saying surely. 2) Should be destroyed, um, yeah probably. 3) TWEE!!! Deary me. Good lord, I need a holiday. Ken P.S.: Oh great, I'm starting my new job next Monday so no holiday. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Aug 13 22:00:33 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:00:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: return to sender Message-ID: <7FF6D223E2095D1168360005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i've just spent a day rediscovering milwaukee. i have always regarded the city as something of a dud, but today i found it to be quite pretty and i wished that there were sinister folk who lived down the street so they could have sat with me in cathedral square taking solemn photos of st. john's and eating apollo's falafel watching a rugby match by the sparkling blue lake. two nights ago i was tricked and ended up at a party of sorts, and i was doing well enough cowering on the edge of the patio until a boy dressed like pooh bear found me and started asking questions. before i knew it, i was quietly entertaining a moderately-sized group of drunken teenagers and i kept trying to escape because i was very sober and didn't want to be funny. they all wanted to know about college and i'm afraid i may have scared them. an interesting group, though...among them the pooh bear and a boy strangely fascinated with garrison keillor. i stayed in the back with the boys most of the time. the girls were on the porch drinking beer and talking about sex and giggling. after a bit i was able to get away with a quiet boy who studies film and we had a nice little talk at the gas station. that's enough from me, as my mother keeps talking at me and it is intensely distracting. so if this post is crap, just blame ma kenyon. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Tue Aug 14 01:46:33 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (grey7 at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Great Lakes Picnic - Sept 1st!! Message-ID: <997749993.3b7874e9a8dd6@email.ismi.net> Right, somebody wake up the Great Lakes people. First off, *ALL* Great Lakes people who would like to attend a picnic (Michigan, Illinois, Wisconson, Ontario, Ohio, Indianna people and whomever else cares to attend) please respond to me even if you can't make this one. I'm trying to get a tally for a possible second picnic before the snow flies. I've also just changed computers because my old one crashed and I may not be able to retrieve everyone's email addy who've already mailed me. Second, right now the plan is to hold the picnic in South Bend, Indianna on September 1st. Right now I'm thinking of planning the meeting time as 12 noon - 2pm, with festivities starting at 2pm. I'm getting info right now on camping grounds/places to stay. Anyone who plans to attend *please* email me so that I know how many can make it, also let me know how many of you want to make it an overnight thing and how many need to split the same day and approx what time. Anyone who wants to carpool or needs a lift, let me know and we'll work something out. Also, anyone coming from the direction of Chicago, we have a listee who'd like to attend but doesn't have transportation. This listee has to be back the same day, so if you're coming from the direction of Chicago and not staying the night and can give a sinister person a ride, let me know. The second picnic: Because some may not be able to make it this time, I was thinking of putting up the option of another picnic before winter arrives. This picnic would take place in October most likely, with the location flexible. Let me know what you all think of this. This has gone far easier than I expected, and I hope to see a gaggle of you sinister people at the picnic. Thanks have to go out to listees Amy and David for help and support in getting this together, without them this wouldn't have gone as smoothly as it has. Thanks to Kate, Molly, Shawn, and EMily and all those who expressed an interest in a picnic when I mentioned it in passing back at the beginning of summer. Thanks to all those who offered their help and emailed me before as well. So let's get this show planned kids, drop me a line and get ready for (as far as I know) the First Ever Sinister Great Lakes Picnic!!! Jim All feathered up and living on the dubbed side +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Lutolfc at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 03:29:01 2001 From: Lutolfc at xxx.com (Lutolfc at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:29:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: RE: the heart is a lonely hunter Message-ID: i started to read 'Member of the Wedding' but i stopped, (not because it was bad) and it is now lying under the nightable in my boyfriends apt., stripped of its cover (cheap glue). As for the sequins on your amperstand shirt, go ahead. I dont know how old you'll look, just don't wear it in the ocean because it may attract sharks. They like shiny things you know. colleen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 09:03:06 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 04:03:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: Make ribena not war Message-ID: <7e.194f9c10.28aa353a@aol.com> Hewwo, Well, I was being in England at the weekend, so it was rather swell. I went to Portsmouth and saw the ships, to an owl sanctuary and saw the owls, on the London eye and generally had fun with the lovely Ian Hatcher. It was the bestest weekend of my whole life. And then I arrived home and my mum had done up my room while I was away so its all purple and pretty and I still cant believe how lucky I am. I was having this discussion with Jasmine the other day, about how truly amazng my life is. Because she reckons it isnt, cause of the hard kids and other stuff, but I think its just grate. I'd say I'm a happy person right now. But that might just be because I got straight ones in my standard grades so I think everything is grate. Somehow I managed to not let my parents down, even though I was sure I was heading for a crap mark. So I'm one person who loves the postman and the SQA just now. Because I got straight ones. I just had to type it again. And yesterday I was lying on my back in the floor of my new room, on my new carpet, with my old record player playing modern rock song in the crackliest way ever, and I thought that B&S were just really grate. And also about jaffa cakes for some reason. I've also learned a whole new vocabulary from the Viz which is funny because it laughs at poo and we all know that toilet humour is the highest form of wit. Well, I'm off back to bed now. Hugs, Jen Ps. Moonglo. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 11:10:53 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:10:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I come knocking at your door ... you don't live there anymore Message-ID: <20010814101053.63769.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> if you're looking for a change in image or a change in lifestyle, I recommend contracting tonsillitis. do you contract tonsillitis? let me expand: since getting tonsillitis and getting rid of tonsillitis and then getting it again three things have happened. that I have noticed. so far. I. acquired a new hairstyle [due to lengthened bed-rest] II. lost twelve pounds in weight [at least] III. got rid of a lot of friends due to my talking about tonsillitis. I'm on the look-out for new friends. obviously. or, at least, I'll act like I am. this could be the start of a whole new life for me. thank you tonsillitis! the london picnic is scheduled for the twenty-fifth of august? and people were arranging entertainment or dancing or something for the evening? hey! dean friedman's playing at the spitz on the evening of that day. so. yeah. arrange some entertainment or dancing or something. there's supposed to be another picnic being arranged in scotland too. right? I watched my black sessions/beat patrol cassette again recently. the picture quality really isn't so great. but you get the idea. I got it in while I was holidaying. from ditch records in victoria on vancouver island in british columbia in canada. north america. the man said there had been a leak the night before and the cassette might be water damaged. so he gave me if for half price. the price was already quite little as it was. I don't think the bad picture quality has much to do with the leak the night before. I brought a lot of things back from canada. I think I left some things there too. dimitra's post was lovely. of course. and I'll pretend [in my head] like I had something to with her liking glasgow a lot. there are a few promises of people having flats or houses and there being tea parties or board game tournaments. I like promises. I like promises. I like promises after they've been kept and you've got nothing to look forward to. and I like promises that won't be kept too, but only while you still think they will be kept. I like tea. my brother had a party at his flat on friday and he invited me and I went. and he had lots of friends there than I had never met. and I made a joke about christmas presents and how good they are and a few people liked it. but none of seemed them liked it as much as I did. although I didn't let anyone know that I liked it at all. and I drank two bottles of wine and passed-out. I got the train home the next day with my brother. and we drank coffee in the station. and we must have appeared as if we were grown-ups. it was very wet yesterday. but it didn't seem to affect my new hairstyle much. and I'm back into glasgow today to choose a detail to draw at a lot of different scales for no reason. and to read a thousand pages of fire regulations for one little piece of information. and draw stuff. yeah. I have less than a fortnight. and I'll know if I'll be continuing. my mum works for the SQA. but she didn't last year. I thought about including a story I wrote at the weekend. but why would I do that? anyhow, I got all the angles wrong. there's a thing about angles. maybe. from: richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 14:06:38 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:06:38 +0800 Subject: Sinister: misled for years Message-ID: <20010814130638.27614.qmail@juno.com> hey sinisters, The Great Lakes picnic has a date! I hope everyone in the vicinity and around the world too began jumping about with pure happiness at reading jim's post. I did, but it wasn't true leaping and such b/c I am here at work and I'm trying to email inconspicuously. And as I just blugeoned that word, it brings me to another subject. P F said I coined a new verb "geehaw." But I stood my ground, insisting that it was indeed a real word. And then doubt creeped in, and I thought, well maybe at least a slang word. So I asked around, and I only received odd looks. So then I thought, well maybe its southern slang, so people in Michigan wouldn't be familiar with it. So I asked my good friend Heather. She had never heard of it either, but attempted to use it in a few sentences, which I found most entertaining..... the Amy definition for GEEHAW(v)- matches up perfectly, doing so without any problems. ex. A date was finally set for the Great Lakes picnic, on September 1, a day that geehaws with most area sinsterites. And that just lovelyly segues into the next exciting topic. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 14:57:26 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:57:26 +0800 Subject: Sinister: trigger happy under the influence Message-ID: <20010814135726.6470.qmail@juno.com> apologies, apologies - i guess between my excitement of the picnic news, the amount of coffee i've had this morning, and various other factors, i pushed 'send' by accident - its so darn close to the 'save draft' button. so you guys got a somewhat incomplete message from me. because i usually do pause before sending, believe it or not. but i'll spare you any further discussion of my verb, and hope you'll use it - or maybe you already do. anyhow, i'll save the next "exciting" topic and my friend's inventive uses for geehaw for another day when my self-imposed probation is over. ;) alrighty. blushing at her desk, (well actually its just a sunburn) amy b. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 14:59:14 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:59:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Newcastle Picnic - 3 days to go Message-ID: sinistaar the numbers for the 1st official newcastle pic-nic have now swelled to a mighty six but we need more (we're greedy like that). if you are anywhere near newcastle-upon-tyne this friday night and/or saturday day and can get here then please do so, we're going to have a fantastic time and we want YOU to come too! a few of us are going to see the wonderful Tompaulin on friday night and then we are all meeting up in newcastle on saturday. if you want to come then mail me off-list and i'll send you details and even a map if you need it. i'm making ginger beer 'spechially sor the occation. thanks for listening luv Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Tue Aug 14 15:21:52 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (u07lec at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:21:52 GB Subject: Sinister: CONCENTRATE!!! Message-ID: hello people, Is anyone else finding it difficult to concentrate on ANYTHING at the moment? Summer is great.....if you don't have to work during the day. And even if I wasn't working during the day, the weather is unbelievably crap here: it's all muggy and horrible, but without all the sunshine that usually goes along with summer. And I had to get a job with a company whose office is on the industrial estate where the sun never shines, and we're lucky if there's no haar (sp?) coming in off the sea. (anyone in Aberdeen will know exactly where I mean....). I have spent most of this morning listening to new cds on borrowed headphones at work; idleberry recommended the appendix out album 'the night is advancing', and it truly is grate. Also grate is the film I went to see last night at my friendly local arthouse cinema (or the closest aberdeen has to such a thing); it's called 'code unknown' and is a french film, it has juliette binoche in and was up for awards at cannes, so i assume it will be on fairly wide release, and I thought it was fantastic, quite frankly. My cinema partner didn't like it quite as much, he said it didn't have much of a 'theme' (he's a conceptual artist, so these things are quite important to him; I'm a science person, so I'm not fussy),and he liked shrek better, but he still agreed it was a Good Film. Go and see it if you like people-watching. Don't go and see it if you like car chases, explosions, or plots that involve somebody killing the butler, and everyone thinbking it was the cook, but then it was actually the cook's arch-enemy back from a long trip, dressed as the cook, and the cook was actually in the coal bunker, dead, all the time. (see? I could write detective novels, no problem). Content for this post is that I may be in London for the next picnic, depending on money and whether the lovely priscila can put up with me for a whole weekend. I've got several pairs of knickers in various hues packed already. Congratualtions to Jenowl on getting straight ones in her exams. And congratulations to richard's mum for making sure jenowl got to find out she got straight ones in her exams before she had to draw her pension. And no congratulations for me for successfully spelling 'congratulations'.... This may seem like a silly question so ask on sinister, but it's almost twee, so... does anyone know of any nice places to go on holiday in spain? I'm looking for something out of all the resorts, a little cottage or villa or something in the mountains, to take a week's holiday in september, so if anyone knows of anywhere, or any good travel agent-type places where i might find somewhere, please email me off-list. Any advice on which part of spain is nicest for that sort of thing would also be appreciated, as I haven't even decided that much yet. And what's happened to all the posts??? Show some consideration for those of us who have to work all day, and rely on sinister posts to entertain us!! Everyone post more, post every day, ten posts a day. Or, alternatively, avoid being thrown off sinister, and send me stuff instead. take care, lyns --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DISS Web Mail. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/mailman/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ceasetocare at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 17:28:53 2001 From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:28:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: blow flies and mum Message-ID: Eeek, someone send me some sinister mail, I'm practically banging my head against the side of my cubicle. You guys remember mum? The band belonging to to Fold Your Hands Child cover stars? Well, read this: Iceland pop experimentalists M�m were formed by Gunnar �rn Tynes, �rvar ��reyjarson Sm�rason, and classically trained twin sisters Gy�a and Krist�n Anna Valt�sd�ttir. Formed in 1997, the group met while working on a children's play. Sm�rason found his perception of music changed through hearing Aphex Twin and decided that he would abandon the guitar-based concepts of his prior bands. This was fine and dandy with his bandmates. Following a number of singles and remixes, the full-length Yesterday Was Dramatic - Today Is OK was released in 2000 through TMT/Thule in Iceland and Tugboat in the U.K. Each of the band's four members was in their late teens when the record was released, which was hailed for its playful and imaginative use of all things musical and not so musical. 2001 saw the release of Please Smile My Noise Bleed on Morr Music, a compilation of remixes from the likes of Isan and Arovane. A second full-length was released later in the year on FatCat. - Andy Kellman, All Music Guide Sorry if that was so long that it ceased to be interesting, but I found it entertaining, and it passes the time . . . There's also pictures of them if you go to http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?oid=2042991 and their web site http://www.tugboatrecords.com/index.html?mum.html (hope those work) Thanks to everyone in #sinister last night (it was my first time), you were all very friendly (ken, aunt sadie, countless other people) until the incredible fantasy team golf thing began . . . I still have no idea what you were talking about. I'm just putting off sending this so that I don't have to stare at my empty inbox again. If I get one more phone call from a hysterical employee about the blow flies breeding in their vents and the blow flies getting caught in their hair and the blow flies falling into their coffee mugs I'm going to forward my phone to the fax machine. I can't do anything about blow flies! I don't even know what they are! Anyone know what a blow fly is and/or how to get rid of them? Apparantly the sticky paper isn't working. I don't think the govt. is going to spring for an exterminator. Are blow flies anything like mayflies (lame attempt to insert something b&s related in here)? - Megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 19:03:48 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Alice Virginia) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: U.R.A. wiiiiiiiiiiiinner! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010814180348.11472.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> I just received an email that's subject is "U.R.A. Winner" I didn't open it, trusting myself that instead of the junkmail/pornography/computer virus it might have had in store for me, it was actually just an email to boost my selfesteem. i am a winner. u.r.a.winner! congrats! *alice can not spell congratualafeihetions* selfesteem is something i need right now at work. my coworker littlemathew *as he's known* said that if we had been in highschool together he would have knocked my books out of my hands and laughed. i said i would have kicked him in the chins, but that's a lie. i would probably grumble, blush, kneel, pick up my books, and COMPLAIN about it for hours. but thanks to my U.R.A. Winner email, i think I can imagine myself kicking him in the chins and then running away down the hall with my old sandals floppingflappingflying behind me. listen to yo la tango's "you can have it all" supersong. also try out "KINGS OF CONVENIENCE" cause i think they are so super. i would NEVER EVER kick them in the chins. So my sinisterians: U.R.A. Winner! Congrats! Much love, Alice Virginia p.s. the heart is a lonely hunter is so teartearsniffsniff i am in fact teartear-ing,sniffsniff-ing as i write this. ===== seasons rise and set(bitter switching sweet) flashing brightly colored changes while out our searching eyes meet switching looks and lives and ages __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 19:39:23 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:39:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Does AuntSadie Dream of Electric Sheep? Message-ID: Hello one and all! Recent posts have been complaining that work is boring without sinister, and they're damn right! "They" are making me do real work now, and it's actually difficult. So instead of using Sinister as a way to pass the time, I'm using it to distract from doing what I really should be. Ahhhhh Mum. Grate CD. Beautiful. Between them, Bjork, and Sigur Ros, I think I love Iceland. I can't think of anything bad that's come from Iceland, other than that hockey coach from D2: The Mighty Ducks. not that i've ever seen that.... #sinister has also been mentioned. In my newfound boredom, I've begun to frequent it more and more. It passes the time nicely. I don't have much to say, but it's an interesting read (even though I don't know what the hell is going on half the time), and much more enjoyable than listening to Saliva or Drowning Pool on the radio. If I could, I would give my listcrush vote to AuntSadie. She's so sweet and terribly clever. I hope everyone has an ace time at the Great Lakes picnic. So what happens at American Picnics? If they play "football" in the UK, do we play baseball here? Or perhaps american football? You know the sport, it's like rugby, only wussier. shit...boss...bye -matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 20:14:16 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: at least i'm a queen Message-ID: <11857228.997816456538.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. in response to the somewhat desparate calls for posts, here i am again. it has been brought to my attention, as of late, that i, your very own lindsey, am a drama queen. this is a label i use infrequently myself, bestowing it upon only those truly worthy of the title, but to bear it myself, well, comes as a bit of an eye-opening surprise. it occurred to me yesterday as i was cleaning out my inbox that almost all of the emails i had exchanged with a former friend of mine were riddled with dramatic, james-ian descriptions of the smell of rain or my hatred for history assignments or my anger at his treatment of me, as were his letters. i have been missing him, as of late, you see, and i wondered yesterday whether it was actually he i missed or those big, long harangues i wrote to (and subsequently talked about with) him. i liked talking about icicles in the beginning, and i think somewhere inside, when he started to get heavily involved with drugs, i liked talking about why he did them, too. he always told me he loved me, and i always told him i didn't love him like that -- which was eventually the sticking point that drove the whole thing to pieces. so do i really want to regain that spry, curly-haired kid who used to try to kiss me, or do i just want the opportunity to refuse the kiss? funny how everyone spends their whole lives trying to figure everyone else out when the biggest enigma is the self. and i'm really no further ahead today than i was yesterday except for being wrapped in an icky sense that maybe, for a little while, i loved someone in a way he never wanted just because he made me feel as i never wanted and always hoped for at the same time. so is that using someone? maybe. but maybe it's not the worst way to be used, though even as i type that i doubt it. so i leave you now feeling like a) a drama queen (or just an addict) and b) a somewhat horrid girl. have you seen the loneliness of a middle distance runner? lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 20:23:28 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:23:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: toronto gathering Message-ID: okay, meeting a couple of new sinister people has inspired me to attempt another meetup in our little city. i know its short notice but we're thinking of next weekend, Aug. 25/26, either day. going out to centre island sounds like fun, so possible meeting spot would be by the ferries going out there, around noon or one or two i guess. bring the usual, food, drink, blankets etc. this kind of just popped into mind, so any adjustments can be made. if people could at least mail me (offlist) to let me know if that is a good/bad weekend, that would be great. then i'll post proper details. cheers, debbie ps...should i use the resident angel blackwell as a drawing card? he'll be there of course. (won't you sweetie? course ya will!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Tue Aug 14 20:33:34 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: giving receptionists everywhere a bad name Message-ID: <20010814193334.46970.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Sinister: Providing quality entertainment at our respective (if not respectable) workplaces since 1997. I got into work four hours late today, but still took the time to read and reply to most of my 13 waiting emails! One has to keep one's priorities straight. I had a dream about a fox last night, and I'm not sure if that's trying to tell me something. Also, I started reading a brilliant book, it's called "45" by Bill Drummond. I know him as that guy from the KLF, but he does other things as well, apparantly. Cool things. He's really into Iceland too. My fashion forecast for fall: Corderoy, corderoy, more corderoy (did I even spell that right?) Tweed elbow patches on a leather jacket (why ruin one when you can ruin TWO perfecty good jackets?) Sparkle eye makeup, hello kitty brand, assorted colors Hats with feathers in them Tops that are too long to be shirts, too short to be dresses That is all. love, elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Tue Aug 14 21:00:46 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:00:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "we, er, hee hee hee!, er don't have any banana." Message-ID: <00b201c124fb$f01e66c0$e9225ad4@pbncomputer> Hey, sinisterbites, I hope any of the Scottish student-type sinsterees got the grades they wanted, I was hap-hap-happy to hear that Jen got straight ones, so lets hear it from all of you! I'm not an athletic type of person, in fact the only sport I partake of is rock climbing and the occasional mountain bike ride, but today I ran home. I don't like running when forced to do athletics, I don't like running to get fit cos I think it's boring, and pointless to do boring stuff when I don't even hold being fit that highly in the scheme of things to do.Neither do I run to clear my head, but today, I RAN. You, know, like when you're a child and you just decide to run instead of walk, and you run so hard that you frequently fall over and your legs go like ribena jelly and you feel silly cos it hurts but you giggle anyway. Well I did that. I felt it my right, because working in a box factory has taken a large part of my childhood, one sinisterbite knows about this, yes I am of course talking about the love of bubble wrap. When throwing huge rolls about becomes a daily activity, you soon forget the hours of fun that it once gave you. I bought the Delgado's Great Eastern yesterday and the reindeer thingy today, but haven't really listened to either good and proper yet, I wish everyone would stop reminding me of cool music I do not have. Well, I don't actually, I wish everyone would keep mentioning those little obscure bands that are really cool because B&S were one of those to me about two years ago. I will dispel the rumour that Jeanette heard by telling you all straight and true "I am not in any way a teenybopper." Sorry if this offends you teenyboppers. Not really, serves you right for being one. The "where did the word Struan come from" question still stands, I have in fact been absolutely inundated by letters thanking me for admitting to my ignorance and asking if I could spill the secret when I get it so, if anyone DOES know, you could actually be the ONLY ONE so mail me, name yourself and you will be pinned up with that legend for ever. Is anyone else annoyed that Oxfam has tried to be new and streetwise and thrown out all their original seventies stuff? I now have to go to the British Heart Foundation,which is way in town but thankfully it is still a true aladdins cave for stuff. Going to Newquay at the weekend, woo! I will not be clubbing, I will be blasting B&S on the beach, eating mini-milks and twisters and supping the purple goods. Remembered something, went to Maccy D's the other day and asked for a banana milkshake, was told they had no bananas today (No quote intended) so I settled with strawberry. But a girly came in later and asked for one, and it turned out they did have the banana stuff! But, I was not annoyed, cos all my friends and me laughed reel hard, imagining the sad little fella talking to his mates later on, going "Get this, this lad in flares walked in and asked for a banana milkshake, right, and I, ha ha, I told him we didn't have any! Ha ha ha!" "Yeah, nice one Mark, I pulled the strawberry one yesterday!" Oh, to work in Mac Dohs! If you were the guy who "pulled the banana one" on me, thanks for a hilarious evening! As ever, love to you all, I think it's a while since I last expressed my appreciation to you for all being so...yes. Thanks. See you in BHF (if you live in Sheffield) Corduroy Boy Tom P.S. I have decided not to be so lazy, mssng t ll th vwls t my sgntre. Heh heh heh. how clever of me... P.P.S. Sorry to be a bug in the Ribena, Jen, but if you could e-confirm the sending of the goods, I am quite literally babbing myself in anticipation which, with your recently remembered toilet SOH you will find hilarious. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Aug 14 20:55:21 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:55:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Ease Your Feet In Southsea Message-ID: <20010814195521.54907.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Bloody hell. I go away for one day and EVERYONE went to Portsmouth. Well - Ken and Jen did. After shagging every available woman in Southsea (probably), Ken naturally found the only DDR machine for miles and miles (Clarence Pier DDR fans!) and visited the city's very own CHAOS which is indeed RAWK. I used to go there when I was about 19 and they've been playing Sabotage followed by Killing In The Name Of for about eight years. Jen saw the ships. There's loads of them - grate big ones with guns that you can pretend are shooting hard kids. Except they're normally crewed by grown-up hard kids which is not swell 'cos they tend to go to pubs in the city and be hard. Well done on the results by the way. My long search for shoes is over: Canvas Converse All Stars (low) are rock. Listening: Go-Betweens 'The Friends Of Rachel Worth' Reading: Love & Rockets and Jack Chick tracts Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 01:32:41 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:32:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: Being a reptile's fine, when you go all the way to being gruesome Message-ID: <41.f949b3f.28ab1d29@aol.com> COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU: LORD OF THE CHU starring: Kevin Bacon as The Ring Isobel's Bum as Middle Earth Charleton Heston as The Gates of Moria Gwyneth Paltrow as Some Brickwork in Mordor Sir Kenneth of Chu as Himself (yeah he was in the book. Didn't you READ it? Sheesh) Quite frankly I'm a bit disappointed with the choice of Charleton Heston for the Gates. You just know he's going to overact the whole thing, creaking far to much when he opens. I'm going to the London picnic. *Try not to scream joyfully and scare people* Do any other Americans get the honor and privilege? I'll be arriving at Gatwick that very morning at 5:55 so forgive me if I'm a little groggy. I think I'll be wearing the red robot necklace I made myself. So yes, that is how you'll know me. Oh, and I'll be spending alot of time with Peter Carter. I'll try to find some appropriately hued knickers as well. Please be my friends. There was talk of Art Garfunkle. I think it should become common knowledge that my friend knows someone who once dreamt of a naked Art Garfunkle, lying on a futon and squirting himself with Easy Cheese. Word is he enjoyed it too. I've nearly sorted out my Sinister mixtape. I'm just waiting on some list member music, which I'm quite excited about. Then all that remains is to nail down the appropriate quotes and get you to say them! Do I expect you to TALK sinisterines? No, Mr. and Ms. Sinister, I expect you to DIE...er ahem, or actually the first bit...right talking, that IS what I expect you to do. Sorry. I have a sweater that's very Dr. Evilesque. It takes control sometimes. Roy Orbison is way better than Elvis, but he will never get all the crazy fans because he wasn't pretty. I hope none of you ever have to get wisdom tooth surgery. There. Now you see how much I love you, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 09:00:36 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:00:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: All the assholes in the world, and mine Message-ID: <027c01c12560$5f1cdde0$5edd56d1@pavilion> A particularly vulgar way to start a post, via Bukowski, but appropriate. I've been listening to Pavement constantly, but even they don't have anything as shocking as Buk with which to begin a post. A little repetition via the reindeers: Dasher: "Here's your hat, what's your hurry?" Dancer: "I thought he hung his boots up and then retired." Prancer: "Gay as a tangerine." Vixen: "You know who you are. I've got the bruises to prove it." Comet: "He's always shooting up too much." Cupid: "Put too much poison in the dart." Donner: "Ate the dead; some party." Blitzen: "Ooh, you mixed wine with Jim Beam, it's gonna end up on the carpet." Rudolph: Insists on forthcoming posts from Joan of Dark, LLaura LLew, and Velocity. We've been waiting patiently and now we've come to the end of our rope. Enlighten us. A Christmas carol here in the blossoming midsummer night. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. TODAY'S BIRTHDAYS Napoleon Bonaparte: Famous French guy with his hand in his shirt Ben Affleck: Recovering celebrity Julia Child: Famous chef and fellow Santa Barbaran Ethel Barrymore: Actress with famous Last Name This post is sponsored by those Hard Lemonade type drinkys they sell nowadays. Dangerous stuff, they go down even easier than Red Bull Vodkas (sorry Ken-- it's Tru, Chu) and you don't realize you're stupid until much later, but by then she's already let you fumble about a bit, and it's too late to turn back. So you fool around a bit, while "Henry & June" runs on the VCR in the background, and you wonder why, but you press on, while Bing Crosby sings "I Found A Million Dollar Baby In A Five-And-Ten-Cent Store" and you can't be sure if you're there, at her spot, but she seems to be responding so you feel you're close at least. Breathing gets heavy, then works up into moans, then subsides. And as the credits roll you sleep a guilty sleep, knowing that you'll see her tomorrow whether it worked or not. She snores, and you get up to write a quick Sinister post without shorts on. At least I do. Viva la musica pop. ~Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chickfactor at xxx.uk Wed Aug 15 13:45:04 2001 From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 05:45:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: south african beatsfreak in 'understanding twee' shocker!!! Message-ID: <200108151245.FAA20805@mail8.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From iodowd at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 13:57:23 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:57:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: don't you want me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010815125723.45049.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> --- Dirty Vicar wrote: > > Currently Rener and I are talking of flying over to > sunny London in late > August to go to Track & Field. Anyone fancy any > picnic action around then? bah, it seems we'll just miss the london picnic on the 26th? 27th? 28th? ... oh well. is anyone here going to T&F on the 31st? fancy meeting up? James Gilmer sent in some nice photos of B&S in lahndan and aberrrdeen. very nice. i took one photo of the uptown shufflers playing in aberdeen and i'm glad i didn't take any more because it didn't come out very well. taking photos of bands when you're a shortarse is never a good idea. Pinefox lists Greatest Songwriters Of All Time. the majority of them i wouldn't have any argument with, apart from lou "overrated" reed. try as i might, i can't figure out who Clark and Mitchell are. and only one laydee in the pantheon. oh wait, duh! i've just figured out who Mitchell is. make that two laydeez. i will now hang my head in shame for the rest of the day. wait, wait, i have it. is it vince clark (of yazoo)? rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - Groucho Marx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Wed Aug 15 14:39:48 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:39:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cos I'm a fan of the go-karting Message-ID: Hiya folks, none of our sinister spies in Benicassim mentioned this, so here's an excerpt from the Pulp review in today's NME: "or, like Stuart Murdoch of Belle & Sebastian, spend the day blasting around the local karting circuit at 70 miles per hour." So much for 'I love my car', cheating the minute her back is turned with the first two-stroke hussy that comes along! :-) don't suppose anyone else is going to V2001 in Chelmsford this weekend? I'm going with my housemates, but while they all want to see Texas, The Chilli's, Toploader and Faithless; I'll be seeking out Idlewild, The Divine Comedy, Grandaddy, Ed Harcourt and Ben Folds. Still, it'll be good to get out of the office and into the sunshine/thunderstorms/mud. that's all I guess stay sinister Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Aug 15 14:44:28 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:44:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Il linois' law enforcement community. Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058EFB@PIKACHU> By my reckoning, some time this week will mark the fourth anniversary of my joining Sinister. And I've still not found anything better to do. Come to think of it, one of the most popular reasons for joining this list seems to be to cop off with someone, and I haven't managed that yet either. Well I've been away for the last few weeks, and come back to find a veritable mountain in my inbox. When I'd climbed to the summit, and lent Sherpa Tenzing some money for his bus fare home on the way, I started to read my emails (it's amazing the places you can find Internet Cafes these days). I see there's been another short war going on. This happens periodically, generally at times when there has been a recent drop in the level of smut on the list. Let that be a lesson to you all. Noone ever gave out abuse while they were busy doing the dirty deed. At least, noone Cliff Richard would approve of. Back when the list was young, and we were all still breast-feeding from our list mummy, Struan Murdoch was the name that appeared in a newspaper article I believe (was it around the time of the Brit award?), and it was taken up as an example of the stupidity of journalists. Then it became Genevieve's pet-name for Stuart. And now, it's used by people who weren't even born when it first started out (possibly). I can't remember any more exact details than that - can any other old-timers do any better? In Pinefox's list of great songwriters, the most startling omission was Duffy. Anybody who hasn't yet discovered the genius of the Lilac Time should rush straight out and buy the Compendium which has just come out - 2 CDs of sweet melodic wonderment, and perfect for a summer's day. Sorry, but the Magnetic Fields don't even come close. Are the Gentle Waves heading in a new direction with their songs? The following lyrics may or may not(*) appear on the next single... I woke early one morning, The earth lay cool and still; When suddenly a tiny bird Perched on my window sill. He sang a song so lovely, So carefree and so gay, That slowly all my troubles Began to slip away. He sang of far off places, Of laughter and of fun, It seemed his very trilling Brought up the morning sun. I stirred beneath the covers, Crept slowly out of bed, Then gently shut the window And crushed his f**king head. I'm not a morning person. (*) Well OK, they probably won't. I'm not sure I can afford to go down to London for the picnic next weekend after my recent excursions, but if anyone feels like offering me a floor for the night, my mind could be changed. I appreciate most of you will be quite happy for me not to turn up, or just not care either way, but what the heck. Big Stu PS Apparently it is now compulsory to mention Mr Chu at least once in every post. So I have. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol04 at xxx.uk Wed Aug 15 15:10:07 2001 From: ol04 at xxx.uk (the narrow wizard) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:10:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Go-Kart Mozart or Camper Van Beethoven? Message-ID: hullo 'sme just thought id prattle for a bit cos im avoiding the masters dissertation and gettin prepared for the newcastle picnic at the weekend which should be fun drinkin in newcastle always a good idea can I get first shot on the pool table in the trent house (please please) time for the required content *Ken Chu likes Belle and Sebastian* did you see that I mentioned both necessary subjects in just one sentence anyway a strange thing happened to me yesterday I bumped into an old mate who i hadn't seen for years and apparently he had been thinking about me just the other day cos he was remembering a short story id written years ago so I was feeling pretty good about my writing but then i went home and read the outsiders by S E Hinton and it was real good and she wrote it when she was 17 bugger I thought I'm shit but hey im getting used to that anyway im off to pack stuff for the weekend you will no doubt be hearing about what shenannigans we get up to next week love and larceny owen with that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Tue Aug 14 23:39:23 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:39:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sir, your lipgloss is still in the taxi Message-ID: <3B79A89B.32F373EE@netscapeonline.co.uk> I'm at the Pleasance: centre Edinburgh Fringe and this woman is shouting at me. She's really upset. She's a nurse. I'm 'involved' in that nasty public building down the street that arrogantly using up so much precious public money. It's true, I suppose. Someone comes over to ask her to leave because she's making too much noise... I leave instead, explaining that I feel I'm the cause of her upset. Actually, there's no problem with passion.. I respect it. But it is upsetting. I stay over in town, and meet mum next day for lunch. Then through this pneumatic castle outside the Sheraton (from where I'd earlier phoned in sick from a comfy bed along the lines of 'curiouser and curiouser'). I go alone to a play in Georges Square in the evening done by some Oxbridge types... very good.. they asked me after if I worked for a newspaper or a magazine as in 'reviewer'. Anyways, it's called 'The Dispute' by Marivaux, and it features a wonderfully histrionic performance by a Ms. Zannah Hudson playing *Egle*. Then, later at night, I play champagne socialist with a maxed and two young lads thought I was going to beat them up: how twee is that? declared that they was not gay but loved me : how twee is that? so some of ... well how high a volume level is life supposed to be at? I haven't even mentioned the brief encounters with other characters, including.. ok, Gordon, stop showing off, and you're writing a weblogue in the wrong place. Place/ (dis)place No matter how hard you try.. you always end up somewhere. I scan the titles on these bookshelves: To reflect what? Is it easier to think up: Than to think nought? I shall quote; For company's sake: How can we do God's will, says Coufoutain in *L'Otage*, when our only way of knowing it is contradicting it? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 16:26:55 2001 From: CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com (CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:26:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: Get out of the nursery and into the sunshine! Message-ID: Allow me to introduce myself...... Hi! My name is Rachel. I wish I could shake all thousands of hands right now. Actually, you all deserve big hugs! I've been on the list now for a little less than a year. It has grown into not only a love, but an unhealthy obsession. And dammit, I want to join to club too! Can I, mummy, can I? I thought I'd share a horrid story that earns me big hugs. This year, I brought Tigermilk to school for my friend to borrow. During English class when we were doing absolutely nothing as usual, I popped it in the cd player for her to hear (my teacher was a pretentious music obsessive, who played Bob Marley everyday to prove he was cool to the stoners). During Expectations, everyone laughed when Stuart/Struan hit the high notes!!!! Think of the irony of THAT song causing me to be laughed at....the story of my life. To this day, I am extremely fearful of sharing Belle and Seb with anyone, if they laugh, I want to cry. At he end of the year, me and my friend (same girl as before, I only have one) had to do a project on the seventies with album reviews in it. I wanted to do Nick Drake, but resisted sharing beautiful music with the world because I feared they would laugh. I ended up doing Fleetwood Mac instead.......sigh.......... I'm going to the second LA show and the first SF show....whoot whoot!!! I would apologize to the rest of the list who doesn't get to see them, but I'm too much of a selfish brat to honestly feel bad. It's my turn, and you'll get yours! I like exclamation marks!!!! Genuine content: In an America entertainment magazine, it reports: "Rather than cut explicit scenes to earn an R rating for Storytelling, Todd Solondz has reportedly covered up the sex with a big red block." Makes me feel all excited and dirty to see it. Ken Chu, will you be MINE? I have fantasies of this mild-mannered asian by day, DDR sexpot kung fu fighter by night. How close am I? I like Camera Obscura, they are lurvely. When you look it up at amazon.com, you also get a hardcore punk band from my hometown of San Diego as well. Doesn't Stockholm Syndrome by YLT also sound sort of B and S-y?? My 15 minutes of sheer terror are up. I'm going to go hide in a cave now. -rachel cornflake +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 18:07:56 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:07:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: dreams and such Message-ID: <34.194e5136.28ac066c@aol.com> Sinister sinister sinister, I don't know what to tell you, except for the fact that you all talk about having Belle and Sebastian related dreams, well, I am afraid I have beat you all. I have had a Sinister dream! Not B&S but Sinister, about our mailing list. I have been having really weird dreams lately and last night, after coming home from a jazz show and crashing, I woke up at three with memories of a Sinister picnic somewhere by the sea (by the way, I've never been to a sinister picnic and only been to the sea once). It was a beautiful dream and the best I've had in a while. That's content for you. Some people have had really inspiring posts lately, about how everything has changed sense they came about this list. Well, I've decided to be proactive and MAKE things different. So thank you all for making me not want to be such chicken shit anymore and I am going to stand up to all the people who sit on me the wrong way. Thanks. I love you all sinister!!! Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Wed Aug 15 18:41:27 2001 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise Lee) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:41:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: anyone wanna come to v2001 with moi? Message-ID: <002b01c125b1$84c003a0$fcd2193e@lee> have a free ticket and i don't wanna go by myself, its this weekend friday-mon in stafford, only clause is u have to help me put up a tent and allow me to watch david gray lou +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kfr9 at xxx.gov Wed Aug 15 18:53:29 2001 From: kfr9 at xxx.gov (Rehak, Kimberly M.) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:53:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sweet smoothing sounds Message-ID: dear sinister:: kara jean said in her letter: Roy Orbison is way better than Elvis, but he will never get all the crazy fans because he wasn't pretty. and i say: holy hell! roy orbison was hott as balls. you know he wrote that 'pretty woman' song for me, not julia roberts. of course, the first draft was called 'pretty fetus of a fetus' because i was just a wee little thing at that time. anyway, at least big baby roy never got fat. the oldies station is kickin today. the tape play-ah eats all of my tapes so i just stick to the sweet soothing sounds of the 1960s. i'm finding so many sexual connotations in these songs i didn't pick up when i was driving along and car dancing in the minivan many years ago. i would list some of them, but then i don't want to be thought of as a pervert. instead i am going to talk about woman's underwear. i bought some red ones the other day. so i wore them and found them to be quite nice. i am going to wear them on my head to coordinate with a blue & white dress and a bayonet next bastille day. hooray for france! the last time i wore underwear on my head was when i dressed up as santa claus. i needed white hair, you see. so as i departed to the first house on my quest to deliver candy canes to the little kids in the neighborhood. the first house was my best friend heather's. she just laughed and laughed when she saw my santa impression. actually, i think it was the undies on the head that caused it. either way, she didn't get a candy cane. and i went home. is anyone on the list from germany or austria or the germany-speaking section of switzerland? perhaps you could be a beaut and recommend some bands that sing in yr native language? my german desperately needs your help. i have tones of copies of my zine left. let me know if you want a copy. xo, kimmy ------------------------------------------- www.geocities.com/lifeinpink/ ------------------------------------------- lifeinpink.diaryland.com ------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 20:06:36 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:06:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i see you baby...shakin that ass shakin that ass Message-ID: the day has finally arrived, and it is with pride and a bittersweet smile that i announce the retirement of my brown corduroy pants. they have served me well for nearly six years, but extensive wear and and my active lifestyle have slowly drained the vitality from these faithful flares. they have been worn thin to the point of transparency, especially around the knees and the bum. one might imagine there to be something rather sexy about see-through corduroy pants, but there really isn't. onto more important matters. the kids in the hall is on right now, and i was wondering if anyone else is truly repulsed by the chicken lady. it's silly, but the mere thought of her scratching around with feathers flying everywhere, her scary beak nose and her homemade omelettes "straight from [her] body onto your plate" makes me shudder. i like the program well enough, but the chicken lady crosses the line. my horoscope today told me to be more like a gypsy and less like a vice-president. i want to apologize...i realize that i have been acting a bit vice-presidential lately, and i'm deeply sorry. even now i am sitting here in a bad suit and pondering possible alternate spellings for the word "potato." *loosens tie* if anyone needs me, i'll be out in the woods with shaking my tambourine and looking for stevie nicks. xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ivyivyivy at xxx.com Wed Aug 15 20:53:44 2001 From: ivyivyivy at xxx.com (ivyivyivy at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:53:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: la la la la la laaa.... Message-ID: hello sinister! i am fine, how are you? currently, i have bruises EVERYWHERE. i dropped a few planks on my head and face while building the backstage-fence for the festival i advertised for a few weeks ago. anyway, the festival was so fun. cessna (a GREAT band from tampere, if you havn't heard them yet, there are some mp3s at http://www.indiepages.com/jigsaw/) were nice and their gig was quite good, although they could have played better songs, and the audience was a bit lame, everyone stood 10meters from the stage, except for me, who was taking pictures like crazy. (look: http://www.multi.fi/~babydoll/poppaloorafoton/) first floor power, the others (22-pistepirkko) and le futur pompiste were great as well, and everything was fun, especially the "staff-party" we had at 2 a.m. we had booked a dj to play last, but everyone, except the workers left then, so we had our own party then instead. the only bad thing was when i was dressed up as a bee, handing out free candy to the visitors, my friend linnea ran up and hugged me. my costume was made out of a black plastic bag, paper wings and yellow paint. WET yellow paint. i tried to scream; "LINNEA LINNEA, don't touch me, i've got paint all over me!!" but she didn't hear me. when she finally let me go she was covered in paint. it was in her hair and all over her clothes, from her neck down to her knees. and my costume was now a plastic bag with yellow spots on and wrinkled paper tied to my back. woopsie. everyone should come next year. :D on monday it's my birtday. my eighteenth. send me presents, or i'll hunt you down, and bite you in the neck! i've wished for tickets to the eels concert in helsinki the 31st. i hope i get them, i was planning to go see stereolab in stockholm in september, but surprise: the age limit is 20. why oh why can't any good bands play finland? time for me to go to bed, school starts at 8 tomorrow. xoxo hanna .................................... 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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Honey, let's do it Message-ID: <20010816011002.12022.qmail@web11701.mail.yahoo.com> yo Pinefox talked about the brilliance of Burt Bachrach. Now I feel sorry the poor man had to whore himself (I do mean Burt) to Austin Powers to get a boost, but people did pay more attention. What this has to do with his brilliance, I don't know. I just had to tell you that. As if my teeny weak prayers were answered.... The ice princess herself, aka Bjork, is touring. I finally get a chance to see her live. *can I get a 'YAY?!'* I'm even skipping PJ Harvey to see her! Now my friends, that is devotion on my part. This is another part of my plan for saintlike frugality. I'm cutting costs across the board and thinking of other ways to increase my cash flow. This also involves NOT spending hideous amounts of money on cd's. Guess what, I haven't bought a cd in almost 2 months! gasp! shock! horror! surprise! Yeah, I must be losin' my mind. I am totally out of the 'indie' music circuit now. Like I have no clue who The Shins are or what they sound like and I could care less because I am $14 richer for my ignorance. So, I guess I'm not cool now huh? ;) Though I do keep a list of cd's I'd someday like to have just in case I hit my head one day and forget my frugality and spend some billsbillsbills on music. So if anyone feels sorry for me because I don't know what's hip or snazzy anymore, mixtapes would be appreciated. If you like. *winkwinknudgenudge* Why oh why is Nicolas Cage playing Penelope Cruz's love interest? I ask you......why? Pobresita. Christian Bale is in that film too, and she plays *cage's* honey bunny??? What's up with that. Oh and did anyone see Tori Amos' new haircut?? Drum roll please: She hasn't had a new cd in a while. She died her hair. She chopped off her locks. Ladies and Gentlemen- she's ready to get her groove on. I think Spark is a nice song too quickquick B&S content. um *thinks* I don't know where "Struan" comes from either. :/ xxMichelle mittenxx erm, the title is a common phrase of mine kidding, it's Kirsty Maccoll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Thu Aug 16 12:47:32 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Norway away away away on monday day day... Message-ID: <20010816114732.9741.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Helloooo, Just thought i'd casually chat before i pootle off to the FJORDS ("pining for the fjords?!") for 2 weeks... How's everyone been? I finally got my pewter fixed, so if anyone wants any bootleg CD's, give me a buzz...I have B&S concerts coming out of my ears! Promised CD's are in t'post now, sorry for the Delay... KEVIN SMITH FILMS are being screened on C4! mainstream telly!!!!!! good. LOTR will be the best film since Star Wars. I guarantee. I think i saw Mr Chu on the DDR machine at ATP on the monday - it was a guy who got 100% and did a twirl while doing it - the preserve of one who spends most of his time and money on said machine... Ooh, Ooh, exam results day - I'm in! Edinburgh, here i come...in October 2002! yippee. happy happy joy joy. So...yeah. nice chatting. sweet and simple. peace and harmony, no throwing cushions now... Love Niko xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Thu Aug 16 14:24:36 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:24:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: evocative sounds of summer Message-ID: dear Sinister, silly me forgot to put a subject on my last post, so here it is: ***trolley cars & rain & bungee jumping*** last night, my friend and i went on our second little/big walk together. the last time, i took him on the �round d*n*wa*l walk� but it wasn�t really, because we only walked a wee section of what the authentic walk takes you, and we made up a little tour of our own. we walked down to the firth and looked at the water and hills and sheep far away, and i was trying to make him take in how gorgeous the scenery is, but he wasn�t really taking much of it; he was concentrating on getting stuff off his chest. which was the same exercise as yesterday evening. i took him a different walk, up the hill which at the back of the town. it�s a really steep climb, and then we got to the top, and we just sat and got our breath back, and he was telling me of the things that was messing his head: a girl he couldn�t have, and then another girl too who he was confused about, but he was just wanting someone to like him. he was describing his jealousy in the other boys who would kiss these girls and flirt, although he didn�t name it jealousy� he didn�t name it anything but confusion. so i told him it was jealousy; i was feeling exactly the same. we decided we�d walk for another while, since it wasn�t really uphill anymore, but horizontal along the hill. i wanted to show him this really wee village hall that i was at during a party. it is so wee, you can imagine idlewild rocking its roof off, like they probably did in portree... it turned out by the time we got there, we�d already walked 4 � miles, and the sun was beginning to set, we were in the middle of nowhere. so we decided to just keep walking. eventually, the road would have taken us to my sister�s, and she could drive us home before we the bears & wolves & pixies came out to dance. the sunset last night was one of the most amazing i�ve seen. before the road started to descend, the sky was a mixture of light pink and purple, with the fluffy clouds looking like scrumptious marshmallows: all funny coloured, and slightly fuzzy round the edges. the more we walked, the brighter the pink became, until it started to look neon. the purple made way for the fluorescent rose, and the marshmallow melted, stretching and expanding across the sky, but only in a relatively thin band; there�s only so much marshmallow. we got to my sister�s, and she was really surprised at getting a tap at her window. she doesn�t usually have brothers walking 8 miles to tap her window. she gave us a drink. because we were thirsty (we lightly jogged the last mile) and took us home. there�s so much more i could say about last night, and other things but this is a mailing list.. i�m a bit wary about posting this much... so i won�t again in a while. yours embarrassingly, john x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu Aug 16 19:46:53 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:46:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: get me a way from here i'm driving Message-ID: <003501c12683$d20b1f00$fa317bd5@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello! What makes you tick? Would it be a big long stick? Or a film that's really sick? Or modern classics? Or drama on TV with people with names like "Drazic"? Sorry I have watched too much "Heartbreak High" on TV lately. Probably cos I fancy Sarah, even tho she is a bit annoying most of the time, but then most of them are, even "Drazic", despite the amusingest name ever. (and how everyone pronounces it "Draseeeeeeeeeeeeeeek") In between watching Heartbreak High I've also managed to move house, this new house is way smaller than the old house, but still it fits everything in okay. Removals people are amazing! They're like those men you see on "The World's Strongest Man" competitions, only not as strong, but still, this guy lifted up this 29 inch TV on his own like it was made of glass (well it is sort of made of glass, but for the sake of an expression..). I was impressed. I then tried to do the same with a shelf, and succeeded in looking like a World's Strongest Man myself, but one of those really loveable ones who frustratingly can't compete because he's picked up a back injury. And then after doing the rituals of my mum giving me a list of 350 things I need to do and 300 telephone numbers I have to phone up in 1 minute flat, and me doing those 750 things, I finally sat down and relaxed in front of the TV, with which the cable connection is not yet connected so I had to rely on the crappy TV aerial which let me watch a lot of white snow whilst listen to Heartbreak High, to here them all say "Draseeeeeek!" Gotta shop for shirt and tie later so I will look swish and sexay for my first day at work next Monday, and also red knickers, so I will look swish and sexay for the forth anniversary picnic next Saturday. Woohoo life is so sweet. Especially with Red Bull. Life and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Thu Aug 16 20:52:49 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:52:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I was Bacharach to your David Message-ID: Do you know they way to San Jose? Yes it's over there. Oh right. The Dairy Fairy said: >Girls are hardly ever allowed to be smutty are they? And I think they > >should be, because sex is just so funny. Yes, where *is* Archel? Brenda Milton-Bradley, did you invent Connect Four and Guess Who? I know you didn't invent Monopoly because I once met the man who did. He was living in an old boot on the corner of Old Kent Road* and was mumbling something about wanting to buy a house for fifty pounds. I gave him two pounds, just to shut up the blathering old tramp, who kept on growling, in-between the hiccups, that 'I own this street', and demanding 'rent', obviously thinking I was a sailor. I knew I shouldn't have worn those trousers in that part of town. I made hasty exit back to my flat in The Strand* wearing my shiny pork pie hat. After my comments about liking the Yellow album over the Green one, I have tried to work out what I actually meant, because I was pretty confused about it myself. I think what it is is that even though the songs on the Green one are mostly better, the Yellow one is more charming. It has a story and a funny picture and it is the colour of cowslips. And, when B+S appear on Rock Legends, this will be the "troubled fourth album", with its wierdness of songs, that preceded the "magnificent fifth album": A controversial song about rape, Stevie having a funny turn in Beyond the Sunrise, and an album being pulled apart by the twin buffaloes of kitchen sink misery and high plains escapism. And even then lots of songs that didn't make it. It's a series of experiments, some of them exploding and others fizzing, that were precursors to the inventiveness we've been hearing lately. I think it's much more *interesting* too. For example Chickfactor=boring, whereas Beyond the Sunrise=oh my god they've gone barmy. It's an angry misfit, the sounds of discontent, and, I still don't really know why, but I like it. Robin x * Americans should substitute different street names here. West Forty Seventh and East Eighty Second are two of my favourites. I doubt if it will make any more sense, though. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Thu Aug 16 23:57:21 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:57:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: All night picnics of DEATH!! Message-ID: Hello Sinister people, I find myself writing you from a brand-new computer, thanks to my old one taking a spectacular crash. I hope everyone is doing well, and that some of you are excited about the upcoming Great Lakes Picnic. I haven't gotten as large of a response about the Great Lakes Picnic this time around, so if you're planning on coming, drop me a line, there may be another picnic in October as well, we'll see. Amy said: A date was finally set for the Great Lakes picnic, on September 1, a day that geehaws with most area sinsterites I'm not generally one for geehaws, but I admit I geehawed. A small geehaw to be honest, but a geehaw all the same. Kirsten wrote about the strange party where there were boys who dressed up like pooh bears and other boys with Garrison Keilor fascinations, and I must apologize because I don't think there will be any boys dressed like pooh bears at the Sinister Great Lakes Picnic. Personally, I regard the lack of boys dressed as pooh bears as a Good Thing. Tiggers are, of course, more than welcome. Tiggers are wonderful things you know, that's the wonderful thing about them. There will be Red Bull though, so I believe this makes up for the lack of boys dressed up as Pooh Bears. Matt said: "I hope everyone has an ace time at the Great Lakes picnic. So what happens at American Picnics?" Well, we just...um...you know...eh...you know what? I haven't a clue. I think it's safe to assume it will at some point involve Red Bull and Vodka. Seriously though, it will be ace, and I hope anyone who has a guitar or some musical instrument will bring it. I think it's safe to say there will be music galore as well, and lots of ace Sinister people to talk to. I'm hoping there's a bit of dancing as well. Rener said: "James Gilmer sent in some nice photos of B&S in lahndan and aberrrdeen. very nice" Thanks, glad you liked them, only the London photos are simply friends unrelated to Sinister, the other B&S phots were from the Perth gig. "Fold You Hands...etc" is probably my favorite album because it has "There's Too Much Love", "Woman's Realm", "Waiting for the Moon", and "The Chalet Lines" on it, four of my favorite songs from B&S. Robin made some ace points, such as: "It's a series of experiments, some of them exploding and others fizzing, that were precursors to the inventiveness we've been hearing lately" I agree completely with that statement. Someone mentioned "The Heart is A Lonely Hunter" which is a gorgeously astonishing book you should all read. I have a confession...I think Ribena is crap, utterly overpriced crap that's a step above Kool-Aid. Does this mean I have to turn in my IndieKid badge? I suppose mentioning I don't like the Smiths will only further damn me? *sigh* I've heard some rumblings about Jonathan David as well, and I wanted to chime in and say that I think it's quite good, all three of the songs on the new single are good. They may not be eveyone's cup of Red Bull, but that's a good thing, as explained by Robin's above quote. I want a professional recording of Rhoda though. Now. It's a brilliant song that reminds me of a girl I once knew. Reading recommendation: "Ethics for the New Millennium" by the Dalai Lama, because he's a very cool cat. Website of the week: http://www.geocities.com/snackrelatedmishap/ because it's insanely funny, and very true. Song of the week: "Skylab Love Scene" by Sunset Valley, because I'm listening to it right now. Be Sinister... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 00:57:12 2001 From: wilska at xxx.com (Emily Wilska) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:57:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: that much is true Message-ID: <37C3476607141849A65191FB44C1D573037DDA5A@svc-msg-03.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> Verily I say unto thee, hello. You thought I might stay silent forever, but you were wrong. I'm not about to do any such thing, especially in light of all the recent hullaballoo in these parts. First, I'd like to second (or, by this point, fourth or fifth) the sentiments put forth by Dimitra. For while I've not done the Sinister Tour o' Europe (or North America, for that matter), I have very well enjoyed my time here, and have gained at least one dear friend, and have learned heaps about many topics which, if nothing else, make me a much more interesting cocktail party guest.* (*This statement has not been verified by the FDA.) So, thanks. Thanks to all of you, even the Pinefox, whose posts leave me scratching my head and wondering whether I'll ever have the smarts to actually understand them. And even though he's mired in Argentina and won't read this unless I forward it to him, thanks to JDS for being a swell sini-pal. I'll stop all of this sappiness right after I note that Dimitra's post left me all sighing and wistful, which would be saying something if watching Shrek on a plane the other day hadn't had the same effect. I swear it was just Cale's (or would that be Cohen's?) 'Hallelujah,' which gets me every time, although it's possible that a computer-generated cartoon did indeed make me a little watery eyed. Let us never speak of this again. I hear Iceland's quite a nice place, although it hasn't many trees and can be a bit chilly at times. But really, people, it produced the delicious (and nutritious) Jonsy and his bunch, so there must be something to it. Also, my uncle recently went there on holiday and quite enjoyed himself. He's pro-Kyoto treaty, by the way. Swedish fish=fantastic. Ikea sells bags of them for mere cents. Make a note of it. I am unabashedly pleased to announce that I'll be attending the second SF show, will be sitting (or, I guess, standing) on the floor, and would be more than grateful to any cute, tall, skinny alternaboys who might like to boost my five-foot-two self up for a better view. That is to say, my view would be better; no promises to those around me. I would not be at all averse to some sort of meet-up beforehand, although the Warfield has the dubious distinction of being near pretty much nothing but the Crazy Horse, which is decidedly un-twee. Dunno--maybe forties in brown bags on the sidewalk would make us all feel more at home in the neighborhood. Discuss amongst yourselves. While I've never had the guts to attempt any Pynchon beyond Lot 49, I have been stubbornly making my way through Proust, and while I will admit that he can be a bit verbose now and again (fuck's sake, Marcel, SPIT IT OUT ALREADY), he is spot-on about many, many matters related to love and infatuation. I would detail them for you now, but really, it's time for coffee. But not before I note that Vancouver is hands-down my new favorite (or favourite) city for so many reasons, not least among them the fact that one can purchase decent Kit-Kats there. (Yeah, yeah--culture and restaurants and scenery, too.) However, British Columbians, please explain to me why the sole radio station one can tune to in the vicinity of Whistler insists on playing something Phil Collins-related every third song. This could be the downfall of what is otherwise a top-notch province, and that worries me. Anyway, I'm back to YVR for a short spell next weekend, so suggestions of things not to be missed would be lovely. In return, I can tell you anything you want to know about San Francisco. Deal? Ooh, and just one more thing. You'll thank me for this, you will, especially if you're as annoyed as I am by Bil Keane's insipid Family Circus cartoon. Check out the reviews of his books readers have posted to Amazon, and never look at Little Billy and Not Me the same way again: What Does This Say?: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0449148149/qid=998005074/sr=2-2/r ef=aps_sr_b_1_2/104-1363541-5188722 I Had a Frightmare: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0449146154/qid=998005139/sr=1-2/r ef=sc_b_2/104-1363541-5188722 Like I said, it's time for coffee. Yes, Emily p.s.--Greater-than-average (if that's humanly possible) love to Honey for dealing with my two-faced addresses. You really are the loveliest ever. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 01:35:55 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:35:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mmmm.... Message-ID: Right. I must be completely insane to share something so deeply personal with 1500 people but at this exact moment I feel like shouting about it, so here goes. A couple of nights ago I was out drinking with some mates. We got talking to the people sat at the table next to us. In the morning, he was gone. Not a trace of him was left, not a note, nothing. Only the fag ends in the ashtray. Nevermind. It was beautiful while it lasted. Priscila. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 01:26:40 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:26:40 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Waiting for the day to come Message-ID: <20010817002640.14280.qmail@web3403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello you all! I hope you are fine! After some time avoiding sinister and refusing myself to qrite a post, I'm back. My life is fine and I am counting the days to see B and S in Free Jazz. I'd like you to be happy for me somehow, Cause I'm looking forward to writing reviews for you. If everything goes right, I'll go to Rio too, to watch both concerts. If my pocket allows me. I've been listening to Radiohead a lot these days, and a song touched me like Judy and the dream of horses some time ago. The song is "Let Down". Awesome! Ok, I don't have anything more to tell you. It's the same story...work, university, having fun on Saturday night (which is great). I just wanna give everyone a big hug, and tell yoo I'm here, alive, and waiting for october to come. Hugs!!!!!!! Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 01:56:21 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:56:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: PS Message-ID: Sorry all! Seems I pressed the send button without actually explaining that I took this guy I met in a pub home to listen to B&S and he ended up staying the night. I have a habit of writing things in a funny order and came back to my computer thinking I'd already finished what I'd written, and pressed send. Duh! My apologies... Pris. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 02:15:36 2001 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:15:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PS Message-ID: That's much less "Lisa Morrison-y" than it first appeared :) >From: "Priscila Moura" >Reply-To: "Priscila Moura" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: PS >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:56:21 +0000 > >Sorry all! > >Seems I pressed the send button without actually explaining that I took >this >guy I met in a pub home to listen to B&S and he ended up staying the night. >I have a habit of writing things in a funny order and came back to my >computer thinking I'd already finished what I'd written, and pressed send. >Duh! My apologies... > >Pris. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 02:11:36 2001 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:11:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: An odd request for Irish sinisterines-- Message-ID: If anyone out there on the list can help me with this I'd be appreciative... I have a picture of my great great grandparents standing in the woods in front of some farm the back of the picture says Summer 1917 and then the mystery word.... it looks vaguely like this Oanisquarie or Oarrisquarie basically the a's and r's could be u's and there could be a second R at the end...(spelling error?) I don't know I've searched high an' lo' on Irish sites and atlases but can't figure out where this is... I apologize profusely to take up your time please honey don't hurt me. jb. If you stand in a circle /than you'll all have a back to bite/ back logged books on the seven wonders/ we're all so funny but we've lost the joke/ now our communications are one line jokes/we're stand up comics and rock musicians making so much noise you don't know when to listen --MoDeSt MoUsE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From liamfan at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 02:41:29 2001 From: liamfan at xxx.com (Leslie) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:41:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: An odd request for Irish sinisterines-- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 8/16/01 8:11 PM, Jeff Burke at shiplore at hotmail.com wrote: > > If anyone out there on the list can help me with this I'd be appreciative... > I have a picture of my great great grandparents standing in the woods in > front of some farm the back of the picture says > > Summer 1917 and then the mystery word.... > > it looks vaguely like this > > Oanisquarie > or > Oarrisquarie > > basically the a's and r's could be u's and there could be a second R at the > end...(spelling error?) > > I don't know > > I've searched high an' lo' on Irish sites and atlases but can't figure out > where this is... > > I apologize profusely to take up your time > please honey don't hurt me. > > jb. > Jeff: It looks like it could be the Gaelic spelling of Inniskerry. Leslie O'Laoghaire * * * * * * "Never be afraid to tell the world who you are." -- Anonymous +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnobrega at xxx.net Fri Aug 17 02:52:01 2001 From: jnobrega at xxx.net (Juliano Nobrega) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:52:01 -0300 Subject: Sinister: The State I Am In (Brazil!!) Message-ID: Hello all. It's been hard wacthing this much going on and just listening. Especially with all this don't-go-west-go-east discussion. What I love about it is that they're going (or coming) south, down to improbable and sunny Brazil... Sorry, I think I should let you in on some background now... I've just been let out of the nursery, so I'm a bit nervous... and anxious. I live in Sao Paulo and don't think I need to tell you how excited we all are about this whole B&S thing. And what's with this concert?? I'm not complaining, I mean, I'm like counting the days, for christ's sake, but who would think we'd get so lucky?!?! You might have noticed that we have a consistent legion of fans over here (myself humbly included). And with all this hype around the gigs, B&S are actually getting quite a lot of press (considering what they would get before) and even some airplay! And parties! And now people keep saying "i read something about that scottish band you always drag on about" and get interested and we actually tell some of them what B&S are all about and so that's how you get a new brazilian B&S fan... For those of you in the list that share my native language or just want to adventure yourself in some portuguese B&S content, check out the site I've put up: www.belleandsebastian.com.br I think it's pretty cool. You might not, but I hope you do. Anyway, just come by and say hello. And let's have some brazilian picnics, we deserve it! Great talking to you. Friday's an hour away, grate! See you all around. Juliano --------------------------------------------- site » www.belleandsebastian.com.br mail » juliano at belleandsebastian.com.br +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 03:22:34 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 02:22:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dunno Message-ID: Okay, either this is a cruel hoax or I've received an email from B&S producer Tony Doogan! I got sent a couple of anonymous stories from this address before and now this! >From: "MrRipley" To: thepris at xxx.com >Subject: Re: jonathan david >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:20:37 -0500 > >hey you! >found you at the sinister >me and steve found your stuff to be the grooviest (did I just say >grooviest?) >the name is Tony >I produce belle&sebastian and a band called Happy Pappy >stay groovy (??!!) >/Tony D > This better not be one of you! Love, Pris. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 05:54:44 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:54:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: godspeed, you purple panda Message-ID: work has been slightly entertaining the past few days, as there was a purple-haired clown on a unicycle yelling through the window at us and also a couple of 15-foot-tall men with hands larger than my torso trying to put their arms around me and take a photo. we also had something of a euro-explosion at work today and some girls were giggling at me in polish and there was a french girl with lovely purple velvet pants. on an unrelated note, two english boys laughed and called elizabeth a bloody wanker because her nametag says "wanker" on it. i made it for her when i was angry at her one day and she wears it because she thinks it's funny. hahaha, elizabeth. ooh that was not very nice. *Priscila Moura and i are possibly fighting over Tony Doogan...and i've apparently been drinking bull semen by the gallon so watch out ;) ;) ;) last night i went out for tea and it was something of a party because a girl in a pretty pink dress had just published a book of poems and everyone was inconspicuously drinking something that was either blueberry koolaid or absinthe, and pavement was on and it was cold outside and i drew a picture of a devil eating a pie. i've just spent an hour with ferrets crawling all over me and trying to eat my hair and now i feel that i need a bath. please excuse me keep your stick on the ice luv kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wjmckenzie at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 13:43:25 2001 From: wjmckenzie at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20McKenzie?=) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:43:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Friday afternoon haiku Message-ID: <20010817124325.31668.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> silence is never silence if you listen ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 14:49:15 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:49:15 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake tours the east coast Message-ID: I thought people might be interested in the new Nick Drake film documentary that will be playing in certain festivals all over the world. I don't know much about this film, except that it is much better than the crappy BBC documentary that was made a few years ago. For more information- go to the end of this e-mail. I chanced upon Pete Yorn playing a free mini-concert at my local indie record store, but I don't really know who he is (except that I'm sure he is well known in the indie music scene). I guess seeing him will have to do since I lost my Radiohead tickets and B&S are avoiding me. My friends call me Tink because they named me "Tinkerbelleandsebastian" (it was too long so they shortened it). I kind of like it. Whenever I say something stupid (which is often), they look at me derisively and say (in a reprimanding way) "Tink!!!" which gives me the feeling of being on a sitcom or something. Does anybody else have an unhealthy obsession with the Little Prince? My friends point out that boys who obsess over the Little Prince are undeniably gay. This is why I like twee books...because idiots (like my friends) are too grown up and boring to enjoy them. Anyway, all sinister children should buy The Little Prince because it is the Twee Bible (and Isobel recommends it). I just found out recently that the Little Prince is on French currency. I want to move to France via Chicago, Portland, Alaska, and Amsterdam. Unhappy at the mall I work at, Tink P.s. Look below >Just as the other update was mailed a note from a few more festivals >wanting >to screen 'A Skin Too Few' came in. Here is the complete list as for now: > > > >The NEW YORK International Independent Film & Video Festival, screening on >Thursday September 13th > >Cinema Texas International Short Film Festival, AUSTIN TX USA, September >14th �23rd > >HELSINKI Love and Anarchy Film Festival September 20th � 30th 2001 > >Doclands Film Festival, DUBLIN, Ireland September 27th � 30th, 2001 > >BERLIN Beta Filmfestival, Germany 29th September �5th October > >The Leeds International Filmfestival and in the same week at a Nick Drake >Day in a bookstore (on video) in LEEDS UK, Sept. 27th�Oct. 12th 2001 > >VANCOUVER International Film Festival, Canada, September 27th�Oct. 12th >2001 > >Olympia Film Festival, OLYMPIA WA USA, October 12th � 21st 2001 > >SHEFFIELD International Documentary Festival, UK, October 22nd � 28th 2001 > >GIJON International Film Festival, Spain, Nov. 23th-30th 2001 > >BUENOS AIRES International Filmfestival of Independent Film, Argentina, >April 19th � 29th 2002 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 16:59:13 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Friday afternoon haiku In-Reply-To: <20010817124325.31668.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010817155913.71554.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> --- William McKenzie wrote: > silence is > never silence if > you listen That was very lovely. But I just wanted to ever-so-gently add that technically, haiku are five, then seven, then five syllables. There, now I've finally done something with those four years of Japanese I took. Minna-san, arigato gozaimasu! -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wjmckenzie at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 17:29:31 2001 From: wjmckenzie at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20McKenzie?=) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 17:29:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Friday afternoon haiku In-Reply-To: <20010817155913.71554.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010817162931.7502.qmail@web13409.mail.yahoo.com> > That was very lovely. But I just wanted to > ever-so-gently add that technically, haiku are five, > then seven, then five syllables. Maybe I should call my shorter version a 'Friday afternoon 'hi''? Sayonara Elise-san! Will ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alm26 at xxx.edu Fri Aug 17 17:26:58 2001 From: alm26 at xxx.edu (alm26 at xxx.edu) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Friday afternoon haiku In-Reply-To: <20010817155913.71554.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: you're right about traditional haiku, but not western haiku... jack kerouac made it up: any number of syllables, just three lines. yep. uh, hi. i'm a wallflower-extraordinaire, and a lover of tiny poetry. how is everybody? i'll go hide again now. ari -- rocketbomb.org On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, elise j. spry wrote: > > --- William McKenzie wrote: > > silence is > > never silence if > > you listen > > That was very lovely. But I just wanted to > ever-so-gently add that technically, haiku are five, > then seven, then five syllables. There, now I've > finally done something with those four years of > Japanese I took. Minna-san, arigato gozaimasu! > > -elise > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 18:10:52 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:10:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ringo in the bathtub using all your soap Message-ID: there was a girl at school we secretly used to call "la dolce gilda." she had lovely dark brown hair that swooped nicely over one eye, and once i told her she had pretty hair and she said "thank you, babycakes" and winked. or maybe she blinked, i couldn't really tell with that one eye covered. she had a boyfriend who looked like nick drake and once i saw the two of them armwrestling, and she had a red heart tattooed on her bicep and she was wearing stilettos. i think she won. she was the sort of girl everyone would like to walk beside, but she was a cocktail waitress at the hotel metro and i was spending friday nights at the clubhouse pouring beer for the harley league. la dolce was a dream, and we imagined she did things like lean seductively on a piano in the velvet room, or maybe invent things. it was all ruined one day when emily saw her hunched over a table at pizza shuttle stuffing her pretty face with spaghetti and meatballs, a black bear raspberry soda pop and a dish of almond custard, smoking newports. her hair was in a ponytail and she was wearing a grey hoodie and a faded pair of blue jeans. it was all very sad, and not unlike the episode of the wonder years where a pair of tube socks flies out of that poor cheerleader's bra during a football game and the boys are all heartbroken with disappointment. it's sometimes better not to know the truth. ...which is exactly why i have chosen to ignore those anti- tobacco "truth" ads on television. at the beginning of the month, i had designated the 16th of august as my day to quit the cigs, and here it is the 17th and i'm still puffing away like thomas the train engine. i quit for awhile by chewing lots of bubblegum, but that's bad for the jaw, and i know because my flatmate lindsay used to chew too much gum and she got something like TMJ and the doctor was suspicious that her jaw had been overworked in *other* ways and this all resulted in some anger and embarassment leading to lindsay and her boy getting in a shouting match in the kitchen. i'll stick with the smokes, i think. xoxo kirsten with a k as sharp as the devil himself Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 19:06:39 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: how about lots of friday afternoon haiku(s) Message-ID: <13423463.998071599554.JavaMail.imail@prickles> *post-diagnosis* hazy crazy may day flowers – a paisley of days lying wasted fill your cups with tears your eyes with years and ears with songs of sorrows quickened overflow overflow and fill these arms with love lost and lost and lost and lost petals flutter and drop like rain drops tear drops gum drops – candy tuesdays and sour thursdays separated by strings of popcorn and berries empty full teeter totter weeble wobble and fall fall fall fall fall candy arms may day happy may day singing love lost cry drop fall _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 20:22:06 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:22:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Wind Cries Midge Message-ID: <000101c12751$ead757a0$44117ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, I don't think enough of you have been reading the second chapter of Peter Millers's novel Mucky Pups at http://www.badosa.com/bin/obra.pl?id=n121-02 cos its only at Number One in the popularity listing. "is your dog sniffing my bird? " was the line that made me crack up in this one. I have a faint premonition that ListMummy Honey may recycle one of her everso tender and loving "nothing personal but if you're posting more than once a day ... " mails soon. How many of you are going to the film showing at the Edinburgh Festival tomorrow? I trust there will be Reporting Back, both on the music and any celebrity sightings. Rener, did someone supply a full name for P F's 23rd best songwriter yet? I supposed Gene Clark, but who knows in such an idiosyncratic listing. BTW Joe, try http://www.iwm.org.uk/online/ardizzone/author.htm for a little about your boozer's artist. Isn't geehaw something to do with training horses to turn left or right? Doesn't Kelvingrove's Museum & Art Gallery look romantic during the sunset? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 21:19:39 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: again with the haiku Message-ID: <20010817201939.75499.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Here's one in honor of someone I might have a crush on: Box factory boy A vision in corduroy Will you be my toy? But then again I might not. In any case, I think we live in very different countries so it doesn't matter all that much. Have a great weekend everyone, love, elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 21:46:56 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: We Got Met By A Tear Gas Bomb Message-ID: <20010817204656.25109.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com> The provinces, again. Old inspirations. The piles of clouds on every horizon through tinted windows. The woods. The 'suburban' streets with their multiple boozers. Left at the side of the road like a figure in a film noir - but it's all in colour. DJ Cockfarmer wasn't, mind. He wore all black. He's a Goth. You know I said the Beard was Back? I was right. DJC talked of what the Yanks think of the pinefox. It is unrepeatable. Doctor Groove came on like a Czech revolutionary poet. Terry Wogan did not perform the Waggle Dance. sinister content: DJ Carsmile showed up looking maybe like a Small Faces fan. He played no Small Faces. On the Cowley Road I was excited to be on the Cowley Road, obviously. The chippy was Cambodian, but sold fish. In the Latrino the kids came and went, and they weren't talking of Di Livio. They headed downstairs every gal jack of them to where hot action was. An inferno, and a disco to wellington, I mean, boot. I only went there for the bog, of Arran. I didn't see Geneva Fairport, I think she'd already sailed. DJCockfarmer spoke very intelligently about pop, interviews, Lennon, the Clientle and, more crucially, THE BOSS. If you'e not interested in the Boss, don't worry - I am. DJC cleverly said that camp and irony should be a personal thing, not a collective one. At that point I felt I knew I was in the presence of a pop thinker I could do business with. American Express, ma'am? No, Oxford Tube. DJC played some hits: 'We Could Walk Together', 'Piccadilly Palare', 'Rattlesnakes', 'TWBTAS'. He marred it a little by playing his favourite songs of recent times at the end, and giving me a full-frontal chance to realize, once and for all, that they were both turgid and terrible. Emily Wsizskaskas implied that I was relatively impenetrable; and I didn't mind. Mooro said: >>>I don't think enough of you have been reading the second chapter of Peter Millers's novel Mucky Pups at cos its only at Number One in the popularity listing. Well, I certainly haven't. What do you think I am, a fan of that geezer or something? >>> one of her everso tender and loving "nothing personal but if you're posting more than once a day ... " mails soon. It's true. Stevie T and Ally96 have got to cool down and post less often. >>> Rener, did someone supply a full name for P F's 23rd best songwriter yet? I supposed Gene Clark, but who knows in such an idiosyncratic listing. Idiotic? We'll see who's idiotic. Oh, I see. Gene Clark, yes, of course. >>> Isn't geehaw something to do with training horses to turn left or right? It's an invented verb. [- Aren't they all? choruses the Pedants Against Pedants Society.] >>> Doesn't Kelvingrove's Museum & Art Gallery look romantic during the sunset? I don't know; but the English countryside does. I think this is where I came in. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Fri Aug 17 22:26:04 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:26:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: put the needle to the record Message-ID: did I mail in to tell you how I'd got myself a record player? It's great being able to play all my old vinyl records now. They sound so much nicer than stinky CDs. I've decided that as Jazz sounds best on vinyl I'm going to become a Jazz aficionado. So I got myself a Blue Note complilation - "Blue Break Beats vol. 4". It's GRATE, with loads of extra tracks exclusive to the vinyl release. And while the whole thing is so very like the kind of thing you hear at B&S discos, two tracks have extra special B&S magic powers. First up there's 'Three Is The Magic Number' by Bob Dorough. Older listers might remember how at the Bowlie Weekender the DJs played this every ten minutes. The other magic track is 'The Beat Goes On', sung by Buddy Rich but composed by Sonny Bongo. As you know, the Gentle Waves played this towards the end of their gig in Dublin a while ago. Rener and I are getting all excited about going to London at the end of the month to take in Track & Field and have a good time all of the time. It will rock. Elise mentioned how haikus are meant to have a five-seven-five syllable structure. But a poncey friend of mine who lives in Japan maintains that actually they're meant to have a five-seven-five *sound* structure, which is very different. Although he wasn't able to say how, so maybe with your studying Japanese you can help. Incidentally, I've also read and enjoyed Bill Drummond's "45", but I find Drummond's relentlessly analytical nature a bit insufferable. I reckon he must be completely hellish to live with, and is completely incapable of enjoying music in a purely aesthetic sense. Have you reached the bit where he's driving back from Northern Ireland carrying a work of art by Zodiac Mindwarp called "Nazi Arseholes"? It sounds like it would make a great cover for the next B&S record. I found John John's long walk story very evocative. Not really evocative of anything other than long walks and having things on your mind, but it was evocative of that and I'm glad I read it. Oblique Chu bit: Rachel Cornflake says: "Ken Chu, will you be MINE? I have fantasies of this mild-mannered asian by day, DDR sexpot kung fu fighter by night. How close am I? " I say, what's all this DDR stuff about? I'm maybe being a bit slow, but in my day DDR stood for Deutche Demokratishe Republik (or something like that), so it conjures up this image of Ken working for the Stasi, which would be nice. I've been thinking a lot about Toasted Heretic lately. They're this lost Irish band from the '80s, actually from Galway. They released tapes and records and stuff, but their best thing is their first cassette only release, "Songs For Swinging Celibates". It's got all the classics on it, well they're classics round my way even if no one else on list has ever heard them. finally, isn't the problem with Nick Drake documentaries that there is no footage of Nick Drake and hardly any photographs? And that he never really did anything apart from make great music? time to go! party on. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 22:30:19 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Allusions of Paradise Message-ID: <20010817213019.25473.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> If the Pinefox is our Milton, let us hope he does not have any daughters. And I would like to echo the call for words of wisdom from Velocity, our very own Jane Austen. Wait, let me explain. You see, Austen can be credited with not only developing the style of dialogue known as indirect discourse, but with the very genre of the novel itself. Furthermore, she wrote with great wit and irony about the great political topics of her day, all the while cloaked as mere gossip about men with big inheritances. We can only hope Velocity inspires a similarly productive literary genre. Indirect discourse may already have been discovered, but Velocity leads the way in indirect capitalization. Only she can know the psychological insights such a development will surely bestow upon us all. Words of encouragement must be extended to JohnJohn, whose post of summer walks and broken hearts was beautiful. Thanks for sharing with us all. Final props go to Robin Stout for the eloquent green vs. yellow defense. Let us hope your prediction is true. Does anybody else find the new white stripes album engagingly depressing? it haunts me, especially the line, " what would i like to have been? everything you hate," it traps me in, i want to resist, i want to say no! i will listen to sleater-kinney today and shout and be happy! but instead, as i near the CD player, a strange compulsion puts my hand in autopilot, and in pops the smoothly white CD, like a nice clean slate, a tabula rasa, only the future has already been written, i know exactly what will happen. it's predetermined. like luther, i can only study and pray that my deeds will somehow affect my fate, which i know to be sealed in alabaster. anyway, we need a picnic mummy for SF on the 8th. We need a proper Golden Gate Park location, as well. We need to warn all out-of-towners to expect bone-numbing fog and winds. so let your fashion decisions be made accordingly. xo kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Message-ID: hello darlings Again i ask for you help fellow sinisters... time is ticking on and it's not that long until i go to uk..and most of the time besides some weekend and days in london will be spend in the city of canterbury..and i need help folks..where to drink the best drinks, where to shop for smart clothes and where to get hold of nice records..and of course what people to hang out with..i am going with some fellow students but not many of them know the things I like.. i really like to find some gigs to go to and caf�s to spend my evenings in..please if anoyne would be kind to help..i really need it:) hugs becka in sweden i've been to london loads of times so i know my way aorund..but never to canterbury..it's going to be great I am there in october 2nd to 23rd I think... http://hem.passagen.se/beckygirl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evilmoonchild at xxx.com Fri Aug 17 23:10:06 2001 From: evilmoonchild at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Moon=20Child?=) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:10:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Vicious Blood Sucking Owls Message-ID: <20010817221006.11782.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone!! Has anyone heard "The Dark is Rising" off the new Mercury Rev album yet? Did the first verse make anyone else cry? I can see it becoming my new 'sad' song, replacing the unoriginal choice of "Fake Plastic Trees". Unoriginal but a fantastic song. I was walking past a graveyard last night... (or this morning, i forget), and I was wondering.. Why don't they put lights in graveyards? The only light that fell in there was on the grass where there were no graves. Im pretty sure that if only the graveyard could be illuminated, we would finally catch a glimpse of one of the ellusive 'Creatures of the Night'. The nasty bloodsucking kind, not owls. I like Owls. So, how did everyone do on their exams? I hope you are all on your way to the careers/universities of your choice. I'm not worrying to much, I have a fallback plan. My friends trying to convince me to start a record shop with him. Nice Idea. It wouldn't really be posistioned to get any customers, just a nice quiet shop where I can play my music and read a book. Might even go as far as to import some dust, go for that authentic "Nobody has ever been here, EVER!!" vibe. Right, so I'm off again. I think I'll make a CD of the Peel Session to ease myself off to sleep tonight. Night. Luv Owen ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 00:48:57 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:48:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: here comes a panzer attacck Message-ID: so i've just had my first sinuster meeetup and i'm a bit pissed can U tell! MAN! i met the narrow wizzzard and he's as narrow as u'd expect. i met MagicMikeWinship also and he's shorter & balder than i'd expected. my friends cathy and phil were there as well and tonight only proves that phil can get on with *anybody* including weird sinisterite types. Tompaulin were fab (girl bass players... mmm) great lakes were cool and americAN saloon were grate (recomended by la winship) and i bought a 45 by them i'll report on tomorrow's shenanigans as and when it happens god i'm drunk BYE!!!!! I luv U all Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 02:25:31 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:25:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sincere appologies Message-ID: I'd just like to appologise to anyone who was in #sinister tonight (well early hours of Sat morning here in London) My drunk housemates got hold of the computer whilst I was out for a smoke and took the *piss* hope no-one was offended sorry PeetSketchSteve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Aug 18 11:42:15 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:42:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Saturday Sonnet Message-ID: <000f01c127d2$79ffb0a0$2269243e@itjfvkli> I saw that film HIGH FIDELITY. THE BOSS makes a CAMEO appearance. I would have preferred CAMEO to make a BOSS appearance. My favourite CAMEO song is SINGLE LIFE. The film HIGH FIDELITY is terrible. They might just have been able to pull it off with some homegrown talent like LENNY GODBER, EDNA WELTHORPE and EDDIE YEATS in the cast. As it stands, it's one of the worst films I'm ever seen. On the RADIO BROADCAST of BELLE AND SEBASTIAN's Benicassim performance, the annoying between song commentators kept saying that BELLE AND SEBASTIAN had REFUSED to play the main stage because they were FRIGHTENED. Normally I would ask someone at Banchory Central to confirm or deny this, but we're an unofficial fan site. If it is true, BUNCH OF PUFFS. If it is false, WHO'S BEEN SPREADING FALSE RUMOURS? And does anyone really care? I know I don't. I've decided that the BELLE AND SEBASTIANS are REALLY IMMATURE, except for SARAH. I had never realised that FELT and DENIM are both fabrics. FELT had a song called something like ALL MY FAVOURITE PEOPLE ARE THOSE THAT ARE DEAD. In much the same spirit, I say ALL MY FAVOURITE LISTEES ARE THOSE THAT HAVE UNSUBSCRIBED IN DISGUST. I hope they are all well. If I were a hospital radio station I would now play THE CURE's IN BETWEEN DAYS and dedicate it to departed listees. Other pop performers with fabric-related names include STEVE SILK HURLEY, SATIN ODYSSEY and DOT COTTON. I hope this helps. I am reading a book called KING OF THE WORLD by David Remnick. It is about Muhammed Ali. It is near perfect, as is STRANGE FRUIT by DAVID MARGOLICK. It is about current list favourite Billie Holiday. She's BLUDDY GRATE, at least in this book. I think STRANGE FRUIT might be better than KING OF THE WORLD. Which means it must be perfect. Thank you Big Dave for mentioning MUCKY PUPS, provisionally retitled DOG BUSINESS. I am very gratefull for any clicks. Modesty prevents me from indulging in gratuitous self-promotion, but has anyone noticed the Ken P. Chu content? Perhaps it becomes clearer in next month's chapter, which is twice as long! PF's list of Great Songwriters certainly had me scratching my head. Merrit at number 8? There'd have to be a whole holocaust of songwriters for Merritt to reach number 8. I was also puzzled by King at number 17. Now I like LOVE AND PRIDE as much as the next man, especially in the extended 12 inch format, but I can't think of a single other song written by the spray-painted Doc Marten boys. I bet PF's editor contributed this one anyway. Cole at number 25 is a joke as well. He's a right jobbie-faced nob-end. I wonder how Genviève is getting on in the Scotland region? Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 15:30:35 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:30:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Boy on a Bike Message-ID: Hi there I'm back from my three days away in the gorgeous Dorset countryside. If you look on a road atlas, make a triangle of Poole, Bridport and Shaftesbury and that's where I was. Inside the Dorset triangle. Put a couple of hundred miles on my new bi-c-y-c-l-e anyway. I thought of riding to the picnic next weekend, but where would I leave the bike when we go off to milk the tiger? I went to see the Cerne Abbas giant. You know the one, the Romano-British chalk figure with the big willy. I think we should make our own B&S version somewhere? The highlight of my trip was climbing the cliffs after easing my feet off in the sea at Lulworth Cove to watch the sun setting behind Portland Bill... then as I walked through the village, past the thatched cottages, the scent of honeysuckle on the evening breeze, there were morris dancers and pints of frothing real ale at the village pub. How twee. A few things whilst I was away... Big Stu mentioned the Lilac Time. Mmmm good. I'd forgotten about them, must try and find some. And staying with records... that Dirty Vicar mentioned some good sounding titles too. Might be after you Father for some more exact details. Say three hail Isobels and the Straun's Prayer. Thanks to... ColinBoy for the Nick Drake tip off Kate/Katia (?) For her dream. I had a relevant dream the other night too. I remember waking and thinking that was my first B&S / Sinister dream, but I'll be darned if I can remember a thing about it now. OK, that'll do. "Don't ask me if I like you, I just might do" PeetSketchSteve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 16:04:34 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:04:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: haiku the school Message-ID: <008401c127f7$17dab8a0$9ce2883e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Haikus are quite nice do we need fifty seven of them buggers tho My mother is getting really stressed out about the new house, even though everything is absolutely fine, I think out of paranoia she has formed constingency plans for any mishaps that can happen in the world, including meteor strikes and nuclear attacks. I wish she can just take a rest. I think I'm annoying her tho by being so laid back, but how can I not be when things are going just fine? Well, ok the central heating isn't working properly :-), but that's getting fixed on Monday and it's warm anyway. Mad. She keeps telling me she doesn't know how I can cope when she's gone, but quite frankly probably better than when she is here now. Oh I am such a bad son. Someone talked about Yellow album, yeah I like Coldplay too. I lied, although I do have a soft spot for songs with bollocks grabbin' high pitched falsetto singing. Talking of bollocks grabbin', have anyone seen that program on Channel 4 the other day of these people practicing sexual techniques, and there was this zen type guy teaching these young men to grab their bollocks and sticking their tongue out, not a pretty sight. But if it will give me miraculous technique... I best go now I can't type at the same time as this. Before I go I would just boast about the fact that every pair of paragraphs in this e-mail begin with the same letter, if no one have ever done this before I'm claiming this as a new style of writing called "Haichu". Bags and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 18:44:27 2001 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:44:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: i might see them across the street Message-ID: <82.ed4aa5e.28b0037b@aol.com> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From curled_up at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 19:37:36 2001 From: curled_up at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?carey=20lander?=) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 19:37:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The way you lick is fine Message-ID: <20010818183736.3668.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I've got my hands on Genevieve! Lured here by freckly scottish arms and the elusive flash of gingery hair through the rain... So how do you entertain a lithe and lively young lady on the holiday of a lifetime? Well stalking is the obvious answer but naturally we're far too classy to partake in such desperate activities. Instead we've been walking the streets of Glasgow attracting the charmers with BLEEDING GASHES ON THE FOREHEADS AND MAD STARING EYES. Mmm the strong silent type. I would like to disclose the red hot information that our very own fantasy-filled school girl SLEEP TALKS. Through 6 nights of tossing and turning Miss Pookie has broken the dream-sodden silence with shouts of "BASTARDS! MWHA HAHAHA" "CANADA!" "SOAP!" and a confusing conversation with me about the beach and belle and sebastian. Today has been another day of discoveries and confirmations as we've been testing the theory by Dr Breedlove (oh please) concerning the relationship between index finger to ring finger ratios and sexual orientation. The Results are that Vickyvodkabird is a disappointed non-tomboy, Linda, Genevieve and I are all gay, Honey is undoubtedly a girl and Cool! Keith is poorly equipped heterosexual with a miserable portion of lovejuice. But there are no surprises there. Keith is sitting back waiting for all you hot ladies out there to dispute this last fact. Please reply on list. This week has seen Lilly96 sprawled on the bed in a fetching face-mask singing "In the arms of my sweet lovin' man". He isnt a little yellow fish in a deep blue sea. Take me home. Well done to Camera Obscura for the excellent Peel session, it was really lovely. If you havent heard them yet you might suck. Miss Honey, Miss Linda, Miss Vodka, Miss Pookie, Cool! Keith and I are sitting around the palace getting tanked up in order to help us cope with the ensuing misery of "Storytelling" with its promising themes of disability and the holocaust. It's all about the music innit. The list mums are being excellent hostesses as always and we're having LOADS MORE FUN THAN YOU. On this aggravating note I must retire. xxx Happy birthday Genevieve and thankyou for your company. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Sat Aug 18 19:52:04 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:52:04 +0300 Subject: Sinister: dreams and lyrics Message-ID: <000c01c12816$ec958ce0$c6facdd4@q2x8k0> These are the things that cheered me up today. The last few days I was feeling I was too far away from where I should be. I was feeling everything's wrong where I am. And maybe it is. But still, that's not all there is. Dreams and lyrics. The dreams are mine,the lyrics I'm about to share with you. Why am I telling you that? Well it's Saturday and I like posting in weekends. And also, it has to do with life as a Belle and Sebastian fan (life as a Belle and Sebastian fan: I found that in the list rules too. Maybe you should read it more often too).That's all it has to do with actually. I've been told the lyrics by a boy (Richard John Gillanders) on #sinister. He recited it all by heart, admire him. And then, Stuart Murdoch said, "I was suddenly alive to the possibility that there were people around who, if they wanted, could bring the country weeping to its knees with a line of poetry". Well...the dreams are mine...but I can assure you they are related too. And some people might even name the lyrics content. Though Llaura, who's wiser than us and who's been around longer, kindly indicated that someone else (Alasdair Cook) has already posted with that not so long ago, here is (a more accurate version of) Hurley's Having Dreams. Here she comes in the April sun in her dungarees and she's up for fun... Smiling like she's a crazy girl and she makes a face like she owns the place... And she does... We indulge ourselves in making a neck of beauty and circumstance... Not to mention her bold intention to keep the bairn and she's only seventeen... Now she's eight months pregnant in a dress she's so elegant... Does a handstand maybe though it's not good for the baby Hurley's havin' dream... Little hurley's havin' dreams... And he kicks and then he screams... And I can't get to sleep... Oh hurley I could weep! Hurley dreams of the time when he was a horse in Czechoslovakia.. Hurley, dear, you're a human being... Have your fun just now but you're gonna have to deal... She looks so fantastic pale blue sun specs made of plastic... How she used to love me her love goes on little Hurley... Hurley's havin' dream... Little hurley's havin' dreams... And he kicks and then he screams... And I can't get to sleep... Oh hurley I could weep! ps Yesterday I've also been told (by Will Salt) that in the month of July 151 different people sent 316 posts (top posters are Ken Chu and Kirsten Kenyon). Which means that in the month of July roughly 90% of the list didn't post at all. Maybe that's just the way things are -but I would personally want to say to anyone out there who would like to post but is too shy and thinks they've got nothing to say to give it a try - I will be very interested in hearing from them, and I don't think I'd be the only one. pss Kirsten please don't get it wrong I love your posts...And Ken,please get insulted....you owe it to the list... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Sat Aug 18 20:09:13 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:09:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ex fox in socks on boy in box-I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous... Message-ID: <002601c12819$6b54d660$c2225ad4@pbncomputer> Oh oh oh yes! My sentence at the box factory is over! I love you all, thanks for sending in nice things for me to read, they really dragged me through. So did the personal e-mails from you, Astrid! (Just had to mention you! By the way, everyone, Astrid is really nice and you should all write your personal B&S story and send it to her.) The world is such a lovely place, especially with three weeks of hols kicking off tomorrow in Newquay. But as I may or may not have said before, I'm not going to club or anything, just blast B&S out on Fistral Beach. If anyones around, call in at the Fistral youth Hostel and have some ribena and lollies. I suppose there is the down side that I will miss out on amusing things on sinster, but I have a way round this... If anyone has something amusing, melancholy or saucy to say, send it to me personally as well as to sinister. (Thats what the Cc: thing is for, guys!) That includes haikus, by the way. I was paid the other day and have therefore blown most of it by now. Bought Bjork, Smiths, Goldfrapp (thats actually really good, I think, but it's probably too mainstream for you introvert bedroom devotees! ;-)) David Kitt, White Stripes, Delgados and more. I bought Sigur Ros' Angels of Rock (or something like that). I have to say, er, sorry, its boring. Well, no, it's interesting, but then again I'm sure Ulysses is too, it's just not my sort of bedtime reading. The CD had 17 tracks, all about 1:20 minutes long and all very soft, with mucho sustained violins. I did feel like a loser when I didn't like it, it was the sort of thing I wanted to like so I could say to people, "yeah, I really like Sigur Ros, hmm, very artistic. What, you don't like it? Oh, well then, why don't you listen to S club 7 , ha ha ha!" But in this case, I am the philistine. Tried to get hold of Mum and Aislers Set but HMV didn't have any. Talking of HMV, when was in there I saw a nice girl buying "Modern Rocksong." She looked as if she might have been a sinisteree but I didn't say anything 'cause I looked a right state after work. But if you are on sinister, nice girl, it was me kicking up a fuss at the next till, hee hee hee! Dr Dolittle 2 is bobbins, by the way. Kirsten, you should come to TK Max in Sheffield, they have Levi chunky brown cords quite cheap. I now have some! Did someone mention Tompaulin? Is it true that they are like "the twee hypocrisy of Belle and Sebastian injected with rabies"? (From the Metro) Props to David Moore for the twee Hendrix subject line. Also to Elise for her sweet haiku, but thanks to the joys of jobquitting the box part is now inaccurate. Although, I'm probably being presumtious, it could well have about the thousands of othe corduroy wearing box making boys on sinister, couldn't it? This post has been a bit weird, it has been fun for me to write (because of the job now quit) but having read it back it will not be fun to read. Oh well, what does this button with the arrow on do? Se...se...sen...s-e-n-d... luv Tom (the title comes up anyway now) P.S. Joke: "three men wait to go into an interview. The first gos in. The interview takes place, but then to test the applicants imagination the manager asks him, "give me a rhyming sentence with the word "anorak" in it!" The man thinks, and says," I've got an anorak, I think it's really great, I wear it everyday for work and I'm never ever late!" On the way out, the applicant lets the other two in on the surprise question, and gives them his model answer. The second goes in, and after being prompted, reels of the answer, "I've got an anorak, I think it's really great, I ear it everyday for work and I'm never ever late!" The manager realises that the secret question is being spread through the applicants and thinks up a harder one. He asks the third applicant, "give me a rhyming sentence with the word "fascinate" in it." The third applicant thinks, and then says: "I've got an anorak, I think its really great, it's also got nine buttons but I only fascinate!" Hee hee hee! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 20:41:39 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:41:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Will i ever be windowdressing? Message-ID: <20010818194139.48130.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations, you have been selected to take part in an online quiz that could win you a lifetime supply of Green Jelly. Not only do you get the jelly, you also have it fed to you by a man protesting that he is the real Rod Hull. (Please take a moment to remember the precious children's entertainer) The quiz refers to my subject line. In Family Tree there is the line about "dummies in the window" and it has got me thinking. Being not the most asthetically pleasing person working in North London suburbia i realise just how many pretty people there are strolling around. They embody the "cool" i longed for in my not so distant school uniform days. I believed that i would be like them eventually, perusing fashion magazines and filling my head with false ideals. I refer to these people as mannequins now, because it makes me feel better. Therefore the winner of the quiz will be the individual who can answer my subject poser. Reading this back i sound wan and whistful and perhaps slightly listless. As i am still trying to be the me i think i am. Audrey Hepburn has replaced the trendies, posing an even greater challenge, asking me to be a lady and buy a nice lipstick. Though this time i love her for it. Choose your icons with care, as it is difficult to resent an image of someone you wanted to be. A charade. JoJo. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 21:42:47 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: If You'll be Be My Enemy Message-ID: <20010818204247.10889.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> ALLY62 I have been chucking away bits of paper and writing poetry about it. ITV have got the footy. Are you worried? GENIUS MANQUE The BBC are retaliating with the 1990s not featuring Chris Waddle. FLAME WAR The geezer Miller has stolen my CAPITALS in his latest offensive bit of rudeness. DON'T DO IT, KIDS The geezer Miller writes to big up prop his novel. I haven�t read it. Have You? HOW DARE HE? The geezer Miller said that my list was a headscratcher. Basically he was looking to have a go at me. It�s all very well, but it�s better than His list. I haven't seen that one. I don't need to. I'M ON FLAME He knocked the Boss as well. Bad idea. IT'S UP TO YOU The geezer Miller said all his favourite listees had left the list. My response comes in multiple choice format: 1. I agree � oh, I agree, believe me. 2. Come here and say that, you fruit basket. Take your pick. CRISE DE VERS David Moore wrote a poem about aeroplanes but it is Secret and only I, like Yeats reading Pater, have seen it. SHE'S IN FASHION The former shop assistant nowadays known as The Care Bear wrote in to sinister. That was an event. I didn�t understand what she had to say, though. Perhaps she could be more lucid next time, like what I am. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Aug 18 22:12:09 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:12:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: As WC Fields would say - I'd rather be here than Philadelphia Message-ID: I just met the first person I have ever known who also likes the group formally known as Smog (now remember I've never met another b&s fan so such things are completely rare for me). I am so utterly DISAPPOINTED. He's recently married and his wife ended up taking her last name, squeezing a hyphen in the middle, and then attaching his sur name as the caboose to her concocted train of a name. I suppose this quite normal, except for he did the same thing so now their last names match in some odd lopsided fashion. His name is William Bird so I suppose I might want to change my name too if I had gone my entire life as a Bird, Bill but still there's something a smidge saddening about the whole process. If everyone who likes the same musical groups as I do is going to be such a let down, forget me going to any Sinister picnics. Pffft. Of course, I don't know about Sinister anymore. The Angeline Jolie thing wasn't so much of a shock to my system as finding out that Honey reads the SUN. Not that I'm at all familiar with Scotland's newspapers but I'm having rather delicious thoughts of Honey all curled up with a tabloid reading about royalty flitting around half naked on Jet Skis. Tell me, Honey, is there any update about the treasure map they discovered in the ladies' varicose veins? Then there was the much talked about the post from Dazzling Dimitra who said, "I was in a church the day before yesterday, and people where chanting and praying at it felt great, so I tried to pray too, and I realised the only words that were strong enough inside me were lyrics. I found myself singing Fox In The Snow. Someone said that I was singing it to god -and that if he was listening he must have loved it." If I were God (and really - who is to say I'm not), I don't think I would approve. Or rather I think I would if you'd let me make requests. Perhaps a nudge for a little "If You're Feeling Sinister". I'm sure the vicar, or whatever, would really love that one. Fox in the Snow though isn't nearly spicy enough for my choir boy tastes. However, I just discovered while visiting http://www.fineran.demon.co.uk/basrefs/lit.htm yesterday that in Virginia Woolf's book "Orlando" the Russian Princess lover chic is referred to as being "like a fox in the snow" twice. The complete list of books and authors which B&S refer to amounts to fifteen. I've been trying to decide for an appropriate prize for the winner of the TRANSATLANTIC MIX TAPE CHALLENGE (which is still underway) and this site gave me an idea. In addition to the unadulterated envy and admiration of all of Sinister, I can also send the winner of the illustrious best mix tape in the world challenge a set of books to which B&S refer to in their songs (providing I can find them). Sexpot Sauer has already said that I am SUCH a book geek but I can't help it - so the following books will be in the set: 'Belle Et Sebastien' by Madame Cecile Aubry Rip Van Winkle by Washington Irving The Trial by Franz Kafka Orlando by Virginia Woolf The Bible - King James Version John Polkinghorne's "Reason and Reality : The Relationship Between Science and Theology Salinger's Catcher In The Rye Kerouac's On The Road though I might get feisty and send you his Book of Dreams instead because I got two copies free Mark Twain - My favorite of his which is The Diaries of Adam & Eve Dostoevsky - I don't know which of his I'll send yet. I'm quite fond of Notes From The Underground Voyage of the Dawn Treader by C.S. Lewis (which is responsible for "Sleep The Clock Around"). Though his Screwtape Letters is my personal favorite of his. I met someone off the Mere Lewis mailing list which was Oooh scary. Too religious for the likes of heathen me. Captain Courageous by Kipling (Another Sleep The Clock Around contributor) Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde Alan Sillitoe's The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner Closely Watched Trains by Bohumil Hrabal That's a rather substantial parting gift if I do say so myself (though quite a deal smaller than putting every book on the Literary List on there) so perhaps this shall spur even more people to compete though I have my hands for at the moment. At the moment I am enjoying very lovely entries and wondering if I have gotten myself into a torrid mess by falling in love with mix tape makers whom I've never met. Mike Winship includes the BEST Simpsons' and Twin Peaks' quoteage - Dahling's tape is my heartbreak find - my favorite Virgin-ahhh-an, Jenny Payne, does beautiful blue artwork - Jay's tape is like himself, completely perfect, and Peter's is a political statement of a masterpiece. There are a few which have yet to be listened to. I think that Dorothy Parker is a glaring omission from Stuart Murdoch's allusion list. Perhaps someone should alert him of this - I'll try to remember it the next time he is making a cameo appearance in my bedroom. Of course, some others on the list might complain as to the absence of Jane Austen. An editor among editors elaborated, "You see, Austen can be credited with not only developing the style of dialogue known as indirect discourse, but with the very genre of the novel itself. Furthermore, she wrote with great wit and irony about the great political topics of her day, all the while cloaked as mere gossip about men with big inheritances." I've never read any Jane Austen but I've read Mark Twain quotes referring to Jane Austen: "Jane Austen? Why I go so far as to say that any library is a good library that does not contain a volume by Jane Austen. Even if it contains no other book." "I could read his prose on salary, but not Jane's. Jane is entirely impossible. It seems a great pity that they allowed her to die a natural death." "I haven't any right to criticize books, and I don't do it except when I hate them. I often want to criticize Jane Austen, but her books madden me so that I can't conceal my frenzy from the reader; and therefore I have to stop every time I begin. Everytime I read 'Pride and Prejudice' I want to dig her up and beat her over the skull with her own shinbone." You can't blame Mark Twain - he hadn't had the nightmare of reading Nick Hornby (hehehe*). Sorry for the length of this post. No matter what your girlfriend whispers in the dark of the night, size does matter. I'm no Mark Twain but I might be as sad as Dostoevsky, Laura *That was written precisely to incense Jay PS- Madeline, Kitty Collars? Next thing I know you'll have been telling me what you heard the wise Bob Barker say about spaying and neutering. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 00:07:43 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Dont give up your dayjob...just be content with your lot...empty your head of those big ideas.... Message-ID: <20010818230743.76301.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> good day... hmmmm...i'm increasingly forgetting how to post these days...everything comes out as a jumble..not that it didnt before..i would say that it was the sun getting to me but..well...perhaps its the abscence of stereo thats addled my brain...i've been forced to listen to a crackly old tape deck with hazardous wiring for the last week or so..not having made myself any new tapes for quite some time also means that i've been digging out old recordings from third division britpop bands of years past...some do still hold certain charms though...again, perhaps the heat has addled my brain, but the supernaturals seem to have burrowed their way back into my head..i'm even tempted to go out and re-purchase albums i sold ever such a long time ago to fund some stupidness or other...where to draw the line though? is Space perhaps a step too far?...hmmmm... ...so are there any more details emerging of this second single/EP then?..i was under the impression that there would be two releases, one at the start and one at the end of the summer...the days are already slipping past and of course i havent done a lot with this summer...things just vanish before you've had a chance to think about them or what you're doing...i now find myself working full time in telesales...seven hours a day of being told to 'sod off we dont want any free books'...lord only knows how i ended up here...now i have to try and find my way out...i never realised quite how much fun full-time work wasnt...i'll have more money than sense of course but when it comes down to it...i'd rather have more time than i knew what to do with that more cash than i knew what to do with...hours and hours just pissed away trying to sell things that people dont need or dont want...i've been employed for precisely three days and its already beggining to erode my brain and soul...i was eighteen about two weeks ago and responsibility has me running scared...its such a well worn cliche but i sincerely do wish i was young forever...to get back just a tiny bit of the innoncence and entirely unblinkered view of the world i used to have ten years ago...to be able to run around yelling my head off in the streets with nobody calling the police...to roll around in muddy puddles or just sit in the middle of town and cry my eyes out...but no...its all about appearances and what i should be doing..its all about holding down my steady job selling memberships to video clubs...i dont think i like being grown up...does anyone?...oh lord this didnt mean to turn out so depressing...i'm just rambling in a protracted and tedious way...i'm sure this has all been said before...even my quite nice exam results didnt seem to cheer me up...things like that never have really...they just seem to be...letters..i dont feel i paticularly deserve them or even paticularly want them...that sounds terribly selfish and stupid i know but i've always had a kind of 'hmmmmm so what' attitude to being educated...people always tend to educate themselves through experience anyhow...it was just an excuse to get a bit tipsy i suppose...hmmmmm..i've gone on too long and been completely miserable...another succesful post :) ta ta... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 01:32:22 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 00:32:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: that ginger beer really has a kick to it, i can still taste it now Message-ID: newcastle sinister meeting in parks and pubs honey was absent home made ginger beer sandwiches and bad haircuts free juke box was nice which powerpuff girl do you all fancy the most? we think the brunette narrow pool wizard beats off all comers like the ghost of jimmy white sorry about the drunken post last night, mike is not that short at all hope you all enjoy who CarsmileSteve is bringing to the london meet (but i'll let him tell you who it is) is five syllables then seven then five of them the haiku structure? ken chu ken chu chu chu chu ken chu ken chu chu chu chu ken ken chu Pez* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Doyster at xxx.nz Sun Aug 19 02:26:46 2001 From: Doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark.) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 13:26:46 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Latex Lobotomy. Message-ID: I was hunting around at Animation Express, and found this little flick, with a subliminal soundtrack by Belle and Sebastian, check it out. http://hotwired.lycos.com/animation/collection/scott_bateman/latex_lobotomy/ Unfortunately (or otherwise) I have nothing more to say to you people, except that maybe there is something inherently dodgy in this compulsive need some of us have to write lists of ultimate songsters, as ultimately they end up as more of an exercise in posturing than anything else. You know the drill, " my taste is not only diverse but also exclusive, here are the thirteen most obvious choices and here are a few from the left field and to stir the porridge here is one that I made up". It just seems so flawed. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 09:47:26 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Move On Down Message-ID: <20010819084726.9326.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> First off, congratulations to EVERTON, who recovered from a Deficit against one of my Favourite Teams. People are banging on about Michael Owen resuming Normal Service, but not about the Toffees winning away on the opening day. Footy on ITV = Dud for the simple old-fashioned reason of ADVERTS. I don't know how I'm going to stand watching the same smarmy, ironic, beautifully-shot, manipulative stuff week in week out. (NO I don't mean watching Manchester United.) I Love The 90s = somewhat Dud. Worst TV personality ever = Gina Yashere. The programme makes great capital out of Ignorance. (NO I'm not talking about reading Spurs' programme.) *** Note to my Editor: after seeing that, I *insist* urgently on my right to revise my PAPERCUTS contributions. This is Important, and Key. *** The Care Bear said: >>> Well done to Camera Obscura for the excellent Peel session, it was really lovely. If you havent heard them yet you might suck. What's THAT supposed to mean? >>> It's all about the music innit. What is? I don't know. You tell me. I have realized that the reason the geezer Miller didn't like my list was cos it didn't extend down to #76 to include his favourite, Curtains Mayfield. Curtains used to play political elegies in the back of a bus with the nipper Miller. But this time, somehow, that doesn't seem enough. I agree with the geezer that anything by Hornby is bad. But he is mistaken to imply that the Boss is bad. Surely the Boss is the best thing in that picture. Miller also talked about a band called Felt. I can inform him about this band. They are very overrated. They had a very nifty guitar player who was everywhere, as Gascoigne once said of Remi Moses (he said more than that). But the axeman was always getting terribly let down by his singer who mumbled very average words over the top, and spoiled everything. The facts are not savoury, I know, but there they are. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 17:38:05 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:38:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Of trees and twigs Message-ID: <002901c128cd$53200a60$a94d7ad5@oemcomputer> Well, Mice And Men are dull now... I think the Pinefox is just jealous because Everton are nowhere near a good team. But if he thinks Everton don't get enough mentions on the TV, he should try being a Scottish footie fan... Lawdy! Don't you just hate working weekends? There should be some sort of law against it or sommat. I could always say it's against my religion - I'm creating Andreasanity - a splinter group from just Atheism. My 10 commandments as your God are: 1)Thou shalt not make thy god work at weekends. 2)Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's P!O!P! 3)Thou shalt not suffer bland "alt-rock" like Coldplay and Starsailor 4)Thou shalt love Japanese stuff, cos it rocketh. 5)Thy wallet shall be emptied each month into the coffers of thy church (me). 6)Thou shalt have sillier names than me. 7)Thy oxen and thy ferrets must be kept down thy trousers. 8)Honey shalt be sacred food, only to be consumed when he sayeth 'please.' 9)Thou shalt adore Father Jack and all his wisdom. 10)Woulds't thou partake of toast? Of course, to join the Andreasist movement, you must make a tribute to me of a custom CD, Minidisc or cassette with cool and groovy indie-pop, or rare Radiohead stuff that I haven't got. Especially interested in their cover of Cinnamon Girl. Bow before your God, you! *zap!* *coughs* Ok, I'm getting slightly out of control. Let's return to as close to normality as I ever manage - which ain't much, as you no-doubt know. Going to see Ben Folds tomorrow night in the Liquid Rooms (if I manage to find it) with my ex. Which may or may not be cool, depending on, umm, things and stuff. On Friday, I go to see Space with that punk princess Sweetie. Which should also be fun. And I finally got my AIR tickets sorted for the Barrowlands! Hurrah!!! I wish something more had come from the Angelina Jolie thing, like nudity for example. Or "Womb Raider" - the battle to escape Isobel's thighs before they open and suck her in... Ok, I have a sick mind. I wish the Amphetameanies were playing again - I keep missing them, it's so unfair! *screams* I'll go now. I'm too too strange, duude. - Jase xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 18:05:39 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:05:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: indie dos and don'ts Message-ID: hey there sinistereenies, being a lazy sunday type of day with the rain pelting down outside, i've been going through some old notes and photos and stuff, and came upon this lovely little list that a friend gave a few years back. it made me laugh out loud so i thought i'd share it with you and hope that you haven't already read it (or something like it) before. indie dos: 1. Be pretentious 2. Cut some bangs 3. Continue to wash your hair, but make it seem as though you don't 4. Follow the latest craze (ie vegetarianism or parkas) 5. Collect sneakers, sneakers and more sneakers - adidas, old skool nike 6. Carry old airline bags 7. Renounce anything mainstream 8. Listen to college radio if you must listen at all. Otherwise , send all your money on cds from obscure bands that no one has ever heard of and probably never will 9. Wear a scarf, inside, outside, all the time 10. Forget you ever knew how to dance. If you must dance, reduce your repertoire to a series of jerky movement paired with a blank expression 11. Put on some flared trousers 12. Practice looking aloof in your mirror when you have some free time 13. Only watch pretentious art films. Know all the directors names 14. Always talk about bands and people in bands. Make people think you know everyone personally 15. Wear those black framed glasses, even if they make you look silly 16. In public, only drink imported beer or something pink and frothy 17. Old skool jogging suits, wear them! 18. Kiss up to important people, ignore everyone else! Indie Don'ts 1. Never wear light coloured jeans 2. Never wear a t-shirt that looks new 3. Never admit to liking a band that gets air time on radio 4. Never be openly friendly to non-indie people, unless you can prove they are cool.5. Most importantly, never date anyone that isn't as indie as you. Your date is your biggest accessory, keep that in mind. :) On a seperate note, I recently came back from my holiday in France. It was lovely. Lovlier still was when I wore my Belle and Sebastian shirt and was asked by random Frenchies if it had anything to do with the childrens tv show, and what was the point of the pink car. Sweetness. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Aug 20 00:18:28 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:18:28 Subject: Sinister: blue and alone... or something like that Message-ID: <147966914@spray.se> Hey, Just thought I´d write one of those posts that no one cares to read. Er.. yeah, something like that. Today, my corduroy boy Tom left for Newquay for three weeks.. Iiih.. I do admit that I miss him really much although he left this morning.. He HAS promised to send a postcard, so I feel quite good anyway.. Those of you who read his last post maybe wondered what he meant with that people should write their b&s-story and send to Astrid.. First, I am Astrid, and the thing he´s talking about is my site, http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling which is about the fans, and why they love belle and sebastian. Why WE love belle and sebastian.. I have just started it, so It´s just four stories up at the moment, but if you lot write me I´ll put it up.. I just want to make clear that I DO NOT want stories i.e novels, I want stories about how YOU found/discovered the magical world of B&S, and how it has.. no, I just CAN´T write changed you life.. I would be just too much of a kliché.. Yesterday I went to an outdoorsconcert at Stockholms biggest entertainment park, to see a swedish rock band called bob hund.. They were ok, I´m not a really big fan, so maybe I´m not the right person to ask.. Today I´ve been in the local mall with my friend Anna and looked at stuff we want to buy (and that´s a lot, I´ll tell you that!). We also sat down for a while eating huge ice cream´s. It was dead nice, the weather was lovely today, blue sky, the sun shining, wonderful! About two hours ago, Anna, My elder sister Hedvig and my mum went into Stockholm to watch firworks. I love to watch it.. Sometimes I try to feel guilty about the air pollutions it causes.. But it was so preyy that I couldn´t think anything but "wooooooow!". It was the nicest one I´ve ever seen, I think.. Tomorrow, my semester begins (*sobsob*) and I begin the last year at my school.. This autumn as well, I have to seek into a gymnasium with the sort of education I want.. I think I´ll try seeking into a program with education in english for the forthcoming years.. I´ve had ten weeks of holiday, and I haven´t really done anything.. Well, I went to England for two days to see my sister Mikaela take her bachelor (Oooh, I was just so PROUD!) and that was so nice.. Now she has a job at a literary agency in London.. I miss her really much, but I know she´s happy there, and she has a wonderful boyfriend that can take care of her if anything happens, so I should being so paranoid.. Have to get some sleep now, since I am going up REALLY early tomorrow *sighs loudly* Love Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_t_opher at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 02:58:48 2001 From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Horkan?=) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 02:58:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: 'we live with elves' In-Reply-To: <200108190847.JAA21399@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20010820015848.90301.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com> hi sinister! i was just saying in #sinister the other day that i didnt want to post to sinister. because i have nothing to say. but here i am nontheless :o) summers are very temporary things for me. i avoid sunlight as much as possible so im often found spending a couple of months a year tucked up in mid-scotland. i cant even take the chance that the rainclouds apparently owned by manchester city council will disperse and reveal ibiza-like cornea-burning white light. and scotland really is delivering! i havent left the house much this week and when i chanced it, a t-shirt and extra-wide flares didnt fare well in the fringe-ed embra village. new tigers were squelching under my feet and all i got to see was a (crap) photo exhibition in a foyer/reception area. not that i was prepared to pay £10 to see people (badly) juggle with fire. not that im bitter or anything. speaking of juggling, ken (who has more sense than to juggle with fire) has a webcam! so, if all the kenchurians want to see ken juggle live, i suggest you give him a mail. it sounds to me like the only thing stopping him is laziness (and maybe a power supply). pah! random surfing (told you i havent been out much) has led me to find http://www.humanforsale.com and http://www.stor.co.uk/troopers.php . the former gives an accurate value of yourself (i was worth just under $2million) and the latter lets you create an e-model of yourself with their wardrobe of bodies, clothes and accessories (bulldogs, etc). both fun wastes of time in my opinion. amazing music recently acquired: daivid kitt - the big romance prefuse 73 - vocal studies ~ uprock narratives several amazing camera obscura mp3s not so amazing music: another mp3 from audiogalaxy called "k.belle and sebastian - down a road (live)'. to save you all the ensuing excitement, its not an unheard of live rarity but just some crap. youre much better off with st ettienne's sylie :o) anyway, im being told this is a 'big email' so i better stop. damn, still cant quite *do* this whole sinister-post thing chris_t_opher ps. the subject line is from fortean tv, a bizarre post-midnight program on channel 4. i seem to be watching it every night since the summer started. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 12:36:24 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:24 Subject: Sinister: Blue pills for the morning Message-ID: Yo. I'll keep it short and under 15 minutes, sorry: anyone out there have a copy of GYBE's All Lights Fucked On The Hairy Amp Drooling? If so, would you like to tape it to me? My fixation with GYBE is getting a bit out of hand, and I NEED this one. I have all the other "official" releases, but if you'd happen to have some Peel sessions and/or bootlegs by them, I'd also like to get some of those. Check out http://www.angels-gone.com . Things to wait: New album from Stina Nordenstam and A Silver Mt. Zion in september. That should get me through hell. Hopefully. -Jarkko, therapy loves company ps: I mentioned Stina, so I quess listmummy won't mind this being so short? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Mon Aug 20 13:55:59 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:55:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: [EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: we're on holiday, be good] Shouting across the offices of Miss Print Inc. this morning, Miss Print (fragrant as ever, stockings and mascara only a little run from the weekend's adventures) informed her staff that a total of 40 people on Sinister currently live in the domain ".fr", and that a total of 255 ".fr" addresses have graduated from the nursery since records began. Being a wise old bat, she pointed out that of course this is merely the tip of the iceberg where the Frenchness of Sinister is concerned, as many french sinistereens will be safely ensconced in .com's, .org's, .etc. She suggested that a mail to Sinister asking if any of the 40+ live near Saumur might just elicit a response. If anyone "fancies a pint", as Keith would say, between the 25th of August and the 3rd September near Saumur, please do get in touch in the next day or so, because we're going on hols there. Although I'd rather hope it would involve less pints and more lazy glasses of wine in pavement cafes, slingbacks idly dangling from one's toe, heart fluttering as one watches Johnny Depp in an outrageously striped t-shirt playing boules with the equally gorgeous Juliette Binoche in that film about chocolate. Well that's what it said in the brochure. If you email after Friday, include a mobile phone number I can send a text message to in the first 160 characters of your email and I might still see it, through the power of telepathy and mobile phones. This of course means I'll be away for the SINISTER FOURTH BIRTHDAY on August 27th, so I'd urge you all to treat the event with the gravity it deserves when the 27th comes around, and air kiss each other for me. "Oui Madame, les culottes roses..." For the small proportion of the rest of you *not* living near Saumur (and if you don't why don't you!), this is to say that the list will be free-wheeling for a couple of weeks, and it is therefore YOUR responsibility to BE GOOD! If I come back and find you all crying with scratch marks on your arms, stains on the carpet, broken toys in the kitchen and plasticine all over my best sofa, I will HAVE WORDS! All I can do is urge you all to think before you post, don't start telling each other what to post, and stop impersonating Tony Doogan(*). You'll have to be patient if you can't unsubscribe, or the archive breaks, or indeed the whole thing falls in a heap, but it'll just make you ridiculously grateful when I come back won't it? As I keep telling them all at work, to dubious blank stares back. PF: Cookie spun some Mr Cole at the weekend and SANG ALONG. (*) If you get a mail from MrRipley at ihavepms.com, it isn't Tony Doogan. Please discard. Tony is neither 23 nor works for Jeepster, so if you're thinking of impersonating him to promote your band, please do a bit more research first. Tony is a nice person who some of us know from the chatroom. You are neither. It's not nice to impersonate others and your sins will find you out. On the subject of the archives, I'm still waiting for more space to restore all four years' posts, the photos etc. It's coming, I promise. Before I go, some *weekend news*. If you go to http://www.missprint.org/sinister/sillustrations/No003.html you will see a surprisingly accurate artist's impression of absent listee "Keith" by present listee Pookie. Remarkable then that these two listees, who come from before the Jurassic Period of Sinister when we hadn't even passed our first birthday, actually met this weekend. Pookie was celebrating her 19th birthday, and Keith his 115th. Girl atomz whizzed around, thumbs were raised in the traditional greeting of "Cool! Sorted!", relative finger lengths were measured and heterosexuality scales weighed. As Carey pointed out, unlike most of us Keith came out as very very heterosexual, as Aunt Sadie knew all along: " keith has a gay-o-meter reading of -12, pathologically attracted to the opposite sex". A good time was had by all, I hope. Oh and I was complimented on the quality of my Sea Breezes by someone with a PhD in Vodka Studies. Only those few who have been on the list more than three years and/or have been in the chatroom will be remotely interested in this paragraph. Anyway, in the course of the weekend's events in Edinburgh, we went to see the UK premiere of Storytelling, you know, the film with the B&S soundtrack, which turned out to consist of 20 seconds of The State I Am In as a prelude to a boy-on-boy blowjob (blush), 20 seconds of instrumental while running up stairs, and a rather nice song sung by Sarah(?) as the credits rolled. Oh and some plot and stuff, the kind that makes the audience laugh in an uncertain way then WHACKS them on the head with a magazine by flinging in a poignant bit to make them feel guilty and stupid. Apparently 2/3rds of the original film seems to have ended up on the cutting room floor, including most of the songs, and the remainder is, to this viewer's eyes, of limited appeal. Scooby's flares were however magnificient. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.siegl at xxx.at Mon Aug 20 14:42:20 2001 From: vanessa.siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:42:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: a dress to wear next year Message-ID: <3B8113BC.4E25D069@uibk.ac.at> Why is it, that whenever I return from a holiday people ask me whether I have recreated now and am all full of fresh energy and feeling good etc etc? Why do I have the feeling that I am meant to reply "Of course I am, yes of course I do" and mean it? The people who asked me this questions are all friends of mine and their question of course was genuine and friendly and they mean well with me... but this is exactly the type of pressure I tried to avoid during being away. I tried to feel good and enjoy things while being there and not having it in back of my mind that I would have to go back and feel recovered at the end of the 2 weeks. I did not always manage --- to feel good .... and to avoid these thoughts. But I tried. Why are we meant to do so many things with the future in mind? I still have dresses I bought because I liked them and thought I would probably get to wear them one day. Some I still haven't. They have been hanging in my cupboard for over 3 years. I won't give them away because they are beautiful .. and I might wear them one day. Maybe next year. This is not what this mail was going to be about. I meant to tell you all about Benicassim (at least the Belle and Sebastian related stuff) and leave out everything else ..... So here it goes ... I arrived in Barcelona on Wednesday 1st of August... rather tired and hungover already after having spent all night at Munich airport because the last train left my hometown at 8 pm and my flight was due at 7 am. I wasn't even on the passenger list as they had managed to book me as Mr Vanessa Roseline. (Roseline is my middle name and in the passport so it wasn't a big problem) So I got to barcelona and found out I had made a mistake and not properly booked my train ticket which meant an hour-long wait at the station there. I hated it because there were men reading porno magazines wherever I decided to sit down and I had to drag my bloody bag around everywhere I went. Then I spotted Rachel and Dimitra (I recognized Rachel and Dimitras shoes from the picnic photos on Gordons website) but was too shy to talk to them at first and only did so when they were walking past me the second time. Got on the (very much noble) train finally and landed in Benicassim about 2 hours later. Met up with Jordiet at the station (we were sharing a room with two more friends of his for the week of the festival) Olivier arrived the following day .... I think it is nice to meet people in person because it adds to the picture a lot if you hear people's accent and especially the way they laugh. :-) Belle and Sebastian were fab. This was the first time I'd get to see them and I made my way to the venue very early to ensure I'd get a place at the front (which I did very much to the left but still very much front. I took lots of pictures but sadly lost my camera much later that night) I liked most of the Spanish bands that were playing before B&S... except for the fact that the last hour I was very much in agony and had to go to "wash my hands" very urgently as I'd had a bit too much water. That did not stop me from enjoying the show, though....:-) The new songs that got played are excellent I think ... I knew some of them from the Peel session but Wandering Alone and another one (the title has slipped my mind) were new to me and very beautiful I think - I look forward to hearing them again ---- Some people stormed the stage to dance during Legal Man .. I thought of joining them but was too afraid my bladder would not make it. And I am too old for that sort of behaviour anyway ;). So this is it... a lot has been said already and there is not much new I can add and I think I will leave it at that ... v/xxxx -- honestly, normally I am not like that ... but.... http://www.clodia.f2s.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 15:09:02 2001 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:09:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: red pant day picnic details Message-ID: <86256AAE.004DBC03.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Afternoon kids, picnic uncle cabbage here again with details and everything about this weekend's picnic. Venue: Regents Park, if you look at the multimap link at the bottom of this post, you'll find us right where the two o's of zoo are, which is in the park but right next to the elephant enclosure of the zoo, so we'll have some cool animals to look at. Date: Saturday the 25th of August, 2 days before the Fourth birthday of sinister and also happens to be the birthday of a certain Mr S Murdoch I've been reliably informed. Meeting point: Shal we say the cinema on Camden Parkway (nearest tube = Camden) where we meet for Primrose Hill picnics? good, as that's where I'd say as well. Right there at two pm (and it's a much shorter walk than the one to Primrose hill) Attire: Anything you like, so long as you're wearing red pants, that's red, not pink, not purple but red! Bring: Bouze, Food, Footballs, Frisbees That's about it I think, there will be dancing afterwards but I'll leave it to the Kommandant to post about that. And if you have trouble finding anything (picnic related) then call me on my mobile 07951 588536. Pip pip Cabbagexx PS here is the link to Multimap: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?scale=25000&X=530000&Y=185000&gride=&gridn=&width=700&height=400&client=europe&db=hcgaz&overviewmap=ap&coordsys=gb&down.x=13&down.y=16 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Aug 20 15:21:41 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:21:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Geezer, Butler, Soldier, Spy Message-ID: <004c01c12983$8a634260$096c253e@itjfvkli> >I agree with the geezer that anything by Hornby is >bad. But he is mistaken to imply that the Boss is bad. >Surely the Boss is the best thing in that picture. If I appeared to be biggying down Bruce Springsteen in favour of Cameo, it's because I recently bought a CD LP of Cameo and I have to convince myself that it was a good idea. I like Bruce Springsteen. Of course I do. Everybody likes Bruce Springsteen. I like that song "41 Shots" that rounded out his latest CD LP. Get killed just for living, it goes. I once borrowed a copy of "Nebraska" which was recorded by Bruce Springsteen in one of his living rooms. I objected to the fact that everyone in the songs was called Frankie. So I suppose we can safely say I didn't really listen to it properly. Bruce Springsteen *is* the best thing in that film, but that doesn't alter the fact that Cameo would have been better. Have you seen their outfits? >DON'T DO IT, KIDS > >The geezer Miller writes to big up prop his novel. I >haven't read it. Have You? I'm sorry, I was just trying to muscle in on the burgeoning Ken P. Chu market. Read Buzzwords. Or Tangents. Duke of Harringay says he ain't gonna write no more music journalism. I hope that means he'll have more time to write to us. Dear Diary, I went paddling on a gay beach yesterday. It really was quite an eye-opener, even though I tried not to look. After their stunning return to form with YOU'RE MY MATE, I'm very disappointed with the new Right Said Fred single. I knew that film Storytelling would be crap. I said all along it was going to be crap, even if I only said it in my head. Was that song over the end credits sung in English or Spanish? Didn't you make a note of the lyrics? Pah! Thank you Princess Honey for that brief glimpse of Sinister Heaven. I mean Keith and Genviève, not the film. The film sounds crap. I was thinking that perhaps a list of top songwriters is a bit like art freaks making a list of top paintbrush manufacturers. I don't always know who writes the songs. Johnstone says "I write the songs" but obviously it was Wilson, under normal circumstances. I had a look who wrote some of my favourite songs and it said Hayes/Porter a lot of the time. Sometimes it said "features an interpolation of...". I could go on, but it's not going to get any better, is it? Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 14:29:41 2001 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (Sweetie Something) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:29:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hey you sexy little muffin you Message-ID: sinister "I feel like more than flesh and blood and guarantees were made to me that I can be tomorrow whatever I choose to be" Regency Buck- More Than A Man last night something happened or rather in the early hours of this morning its 8.30am this *is* the early hours to me but im talking about the early hours before you sleep not the ones you wake up to but i am feeling so incredibly happy i went to bed at 4am and read some more of my book or rather, almost all of the rest of my book its good, Nick Hornby- About A Boy. once ive done this post, ill probably finish it (must add-i enjoyed high fidelity-book and film) before i read about a boy i read Nick Revell- House Of The Spirit Levels thats a good thing, i hope i do finish it even though i always hate to see the back of a good book (dont you ever get that? when you read a great book, but you dont want to finish it for various reason-my reasons being-what if inever find a book this good again? and what if the ending ruins the entire thing? although i must admit, i dont think that the former is all the likely to happen....) because that will give me another reason to do something that something being walk down to denny that may not seem like much and i suppose it isnt but for the last few months ive barely had the motivation to get up in the morning-usually rising and greeting the day betwen 12and2pm but suddenly i have this new found motivation and it feels good i have actually done something and actually made a move on something i want to do i have given myself a reason to actually bother i suppose thats what happens when you are bored pretty much all the time for weeks on end eventually, something will happen and you'll do something then you will realise that you did something. it may not be much, but its more than you have done in long enough and its *that* that gets you going, especially when you realise that its a bit late to turn back without looking a bit foolish as i said, i went to bed at 4am and i read more of my book, but only 2 chapters or so then i tried to sleep, but after half an hour of trying i gave up i got up, made myself a cup of tea, then went back and read more of my book after reading say another chapter i heard something it was someone talking whether it was someone in the house talking or the tv-i didnt know either way it meant someone else was up-they had to be-if a tv had been left on i would have heard it earlier i got up and went into the hall, it was coming from downstairs. it was the tv. strange i thought-i didnt hear anyone get up was the book really so good that it managed to captivate all of my attention and stop me hear them walk past? i went to investigate no one was up, and the tv wasnt on-but the amp was. so thats why i could hear the tv. i still dont know why the amp was on-it hadnt been on when i went to bed-i would have heard it. strange. still cant work it out. went back to bed. before reading more i looked out and it was dark it was also wet and quite miserable next time i looked out-it was light and it was dry but the sky wasnt all grey in fact, it was quite alot not grey maybe it is going to be a nice day i felt like going for a walk-but im not feeling *that* motivated ;) i saw the postman, thats what made me want to go out then not half an hour later, i looked out again and it was raining and grey another miserable rainy day i looked up at the sky and noticed that my little blue spaces hadnt completely disappeared i thought again about the postman and how much i was glad i hadnt went for a walk this depressed me a bit and in the space of a few seconds, my refound enthusiasm faded and i remembered why i stayed in bed till mid afternoon each day and feeling much more down, i decided to read more of my book i looked at the last page to see how many more pages i had to go, not all that many i almost accidentally looked at the last few lines while i was checking the number if the last page so closed my eyes quickly and turned away and flicked back to the page i was at whilst i was reading i noticed out of the corner of my eye and through my curtains that it at least *appeared* to be getting brighter outside however, deciding that the weather had already depressed me enough for one morning-resisted the urge to look out after a few chapters i gave in and looked out it *was* brighter there was a lot more blue and white and even though the grey clouds were headed this way it made me happier-if just for a while and *that* inspired me the grey clouds cant stay there forever i came downstairs and turned my computer on leaving the curtains open next thing i know but could hardly believe it even made me utter obscenities out loud to myself sun shining in and onto my screen and although it made my screen a little harder to see, i left the curtains open its still sunny now-an hour later the grey clouds are still headed this way but at least for now the sun has even started drying the roads and the pavements it looks like the grey clouds will be here later maybe even sooner but hey who knows they might even change direction it might still end up a sunny day I've got to tell you that the future is undone sweetie xox ps psst this is it: http://msn.communities.co.uk/abetterplacetoselfdestruct not much i know but its my something, its my baby :) but she cant grow without knowledge help her grow, tell her about new (UK) bands and once she knows enough she will bloom from this pod into a nice little e-zine at least, thats the plan i'm hoping she doesnt reach an awkward adolescent stage where she thinks she is all mature and knows enough and but ends up falling flat on her face and sounding stupid... ;) i finished my book and i smiled so much. it was a brilliant book. (and i got another book Iain Grant - Small Town Antichrist) the day did get sunny and i did get my walk down to denny :) ICQ #42242252 MSN instant msngr: something_sinister at hotmail.com Yahoo and AOLim id: IIIsecondcreep *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Corresponding angles use first class stamps. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katiebalmforth at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 20:01:25 2001 From: katiebalmforth at xxx.com (Katie Balmforth) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:01:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dippin in my big toe..mm warm and fuzzy! Message-ID: got a voice and no time to say anything (at work) well the quick stuff is me=Katie,Glasgow,loved em since 95 but gave tickets I had to concert in 96to an ex(niceness gone feral), mid life crisis booked in for the next week and now I must go to slog Katie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thefoxxinthesnow at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 20:46:41 2001 From: Thefoxxinthesnow at xxx.com (Thefoxxinthesnow at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:46:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: important "indie" rantings Message-ID: <6a.124864cd.28b2c321@aol.com> hello there.  for quite some time i've been a lurker, but i feel now the time is more important than ever to write, not for any particular reason other than to question the whole indie scene (thus encompassing an entire scary subculture). don't get me wrong, i listen to indie music.  but if you saw me you might not think it.  i work at (gasp! a corporation) banana republic, and i like my hair to look washed (because it is).  i like to consider myself a purist; i don't listen to belle to belong to some strange and snobbish subculture but instead for the music, plain and simple. the indie-rock scene lacks diversity.  go to any concert of any other genre and you'll find some many "types" of people, people who have joined with a similar love for music.  go to an indie rock show and you'll only find indie rock people. so silly.  people who will only talk to you if you look like you love the music (?!)    based on my own experiences at indie rock concerts i can conclude that the indie rock scene is pretentious, fake, and breeds snobby, judgmental people.  the music of the indie rock scene is supposed to contain more beauty, to have more meaning to the people who listen to it than fans of other types of non-indie music yet indie music fans can only turn and judge another person on how vintage their clothing is.... explain how that makes the indie music scene more mature and enlightened than any other. lauren +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 21:39:15 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:39:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Meet - Sun. Aug. 26th Message-ID: Okay...we're going to meet by the ferries at one pm on Sunday. That day seemed to be better for people, so be it. Does that seem too early? Oh well, we'll set it at one for now, any complaints can be mailed to me. Please bring whatever you expect to enjoy while there...picnicy food, drinks, toys, etc. If the weather is crappy than we'll obviously head to a pub instead. We'll be there no matter what, so come join us if you feel like it. Write me with any other questions. Like what/who to look out for. byefornow, debbie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 21:42:18 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:42:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! Message-ID: Goodness me. I've just found out that Posh Spice and Kylie and Dido and Nelly Whatshername who sang that song about the bird and Coldplay and some others will be coming to Leicester to mime to their new singles in a big park. And for free! It makes me feel right lucky, and if anyone fancies popping along for a corporate popfest, let me know, and we can have a beer together. It's Radio One's One Big Sunday on 2 September, which is, oddly enough, a Sunday. I have an interview on Thursday for a job as a high-powered and influential part time library assistant. I am currently working on my Librarian Chic (TM) with the help of the fashion gurus in #sinister. SO far, I've established that I need: pleated skirt, specs, hair in a bun, pursed lips and a hankie tucked up my sleeve for constant sniffles. So far I have: sniffles. I have been pootling about in the archives today, and found reference to The Poetry Parrot. Ken Chu sent me the parrot a while ago, and I did not understand it's significance, but now I do. So I offer you this: PRAYER Some days, although we cannot pray, a prayer utters itself. So, a woman will lift her head from the sieve and stare at the minims sung by a tree, a sudden gift. Some nights, although we are faithless, the truth enters our hearts, that small familiar pain; then a man will stand stock-still, hearing his youth in the distant Latin chanting of a train. Pray for us now. Grade I piano scales console the lodger looking out across a Midlands town. Then dusk, and someone calls a child's name as though they names their loss. Darkness outside. Inside, the radio's prayer - Rockall. Malin. Dogger. Finisterre. That's by Carol Ann Duffy and it makes my breathing a little easier when I get a panic on. Now, I set the parrot free and send him on his way across a million miles of ocean to Sir David of Stankin Cooter (apologies to slang-sensitive Americans out there). Sir D, the parrot is all yours. Stick him in a pie and eat him for all I care :) Much love, Madeleine xxx Props to Mark Cassarole for being nice about me. Happy Holidays to Mummies Linda and Honey. Oh, and Llovely Llaurrra, who the bleedin' hell in Bob Barker? **Mwah Mwah** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowyminor at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 23:20:11 2001 From: snowyminor at xxx.com (Michelle R.) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: fuck logic, rival to instinct Message-ID: <20010820222011.33050.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com> .... and sweet intuition hi there you I never thought it would come to the point where I'd go crazy with joy whenever a credit card commercial would come on. It's only because that 'Blue' credit card ad shows a clip of New Order's 'Crystal' and well, I get all happy...and dancing soon procedes that. Like many good things, though, it only lasts for a short time. This commercial joy happened to me before though, with an investing company! That old Merril Lynch ad had a grossly under-used snippet of Hooverphonic's 'Wardrope.' Still, it was a nice ad methinks. Commercials are getting cooler, so watch out! You could be dancing next. Rick Bayless. The man is a rock star when it comes to ethnic cooking shows! There was a marathon of his 'Mexico:One Plate at a time' shows the other day which were very informative mm hm. He's not even Mexican (I don't think) and he makes a kick ass ceviche with startling accuracy. Ohyes though mine would give him a run for his money though I digress. To me, he's taken the place of the Frugal (yay frugalness) Gourmet since Jeff Smith developed a fancy for little boys and hasn't been heard from since. I agree completely with Lauren. Those people who fall under the 100% indie 'do's' column are pretentious babies. They think their shit don't stink, frankly, as the saying goes. This reminds me of a comic stip from a university newspaper my friend sent me. ' HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS AT *name of uni* : *little smiley face saying* 'I love Dave Matthews Band!' HOW TO MAKE ENEMIES: *angry face* I hate Dave Matthews Band!'' Oh for the love of God. I think the indie 'do's' people are just the same... HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS: I like Mogwai and Built to Spill HOW TO MAKE ENEMIES: I like No Doubt *and* I like Built to Spill bullshit :) You get the idea. I just noticed 'friends' and 'enemies' have the same amount of words. How nice. Well, on to things that are nice like Sinister's bday...Harry Potter! Awww what a nice book! No really, it is. I was avoiding it for the longest time but peer pressure won. Good read though. And I don't have to remind you about the lil' feller who plays him in the film, has the likeness of Chris Geddes do I?? (notice how I oh-so casually include B&S content in there) :) Songs with a mandolin in them are nice. xx me shell mitt hen xx pssst. the subject if from Bjork btw. She's grate-tastic. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willpie_00 at xxx.com Mon Aug 20 23:56:34 2001 From: willpie_00 at xxx.com (Will Porter) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ask me, I won't say no Message-ID: <20010820225634.73204.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com> One Madeleine McNeil spake: > I am currently working on my Librarian Chic > (TM) with the help of the fashion gurus in #sinister. SO far, I've > established that I need: pleated skirt, specs, hair in a bun, pursed lips > and a hankie tucked up my sleeve for constant sniffles. Dear god child, you've forgotten the cardie! It's the most important bit of the ensemble. And if you haven't got your glasses on some kind of thin silver chain, you might as well just pack up your AACR2(revised) and work at a bookstore or some other such abomination. You've got to want it! Speaking of librarians, I'm one of those and I haven't had much to say lately, which is why those of you who didn't frequent #sinister about a year ago don't have a clue who I am. Well, I'm Will and I'm a librarian and I live in New York City. I have just gotten new glasses. They are brown. They are bigger than my old ones. The old ones were silver and wire framed and teeny and these ones are plastic and brown and narrow (vertically) but broad (horizontally). I like them, but the other kids at the library tease me. In the time since I last posted, I have: ummm. Nothing to report. In related news, I still like Belle and Sebastian. OOh speaking of bands, do you all love Call and Response? You ought to. Today, a really very pretty woman who frequents my library passed me on the street walking the cutest spaniel I have ever seen. Unfortuately, said woman is married, which should come as no surprise because 1. she's really very pretty 2. she's interesting (foreign and always reading good books) and 3. because I have something of a crush on her. Which isn't so say I don't have something of a crush on about 45% of the women I meet. I'm a promiscuous crusher. Speaking of crushes, shockingly little attention seems to be paid to the list crush thingy anymore. Back in my day, list crushes were something we participated in, dammit! And Archel and Starry and Fiona had 'em all! and we liked it! And we had to walk 10 miles uphill in the snow to vote! Umm actually it was a little website that allowed for egregious ballot-box stuffing. And you could get to it from your chair. And I'm really not a list old-timer, as the list old-timers can attest. But list crushes are fun! Have fun! Be crushy! Yeah! xo Will Porter, who used to be the new Will, but isn't anymore. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 00:13:29 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:13:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: To beard or not to beard? Message-ID: <49.fa5a43b.28b2f39c@aol.com> Hello dear Sinisterettes and Sinisterines, I hope you’re all sitting comfortably, and have a nice glass of Ribena, or Red Bull, or Rootbear, or whatever takes your fancy by your side. Miss Jenni has a nice little story to tell you all. She didn’t want to tell you it when she came back from the sunny lovely place they call Benicassim, as she got back to England and found everybody fighting and sticking tongues out at each other and passing notes under desks and throwing little paper balls at each other. But now you’ve all settled down and become friends again, I’ll begin. Once upon a time, a girl called Miss Jenni and her band of friends called The Dufflecoat Mafia all went to a sunny, lovely place in Spain called Benicassim. Here, everybody was happy, alcohol was plentiful and for some bizarre reason, they deemed Miss Jenni to be worthy of being interviewed for MTV with her best friend the Popkitten, as well as being a model for a style magazine in her stripy tee and Audrey Hepburn sunglasses. Benicassim was a wonderful place. Miss Jenni and the boy in the tree went to see Belle and Sebastian and they jumped up and down and danced a lot and giggled and sang along to all the songs they knew. (We apologise now to anyone who saw us being all loud and jumping up and down and daring Struan to play football with us the next day.) Miss Jenni liked all the new songs they played and all the handclaps in “Wandering Alone..” and Isobel’s amazingly lovely Bob Dylan dress. Struan made her giggle with his bad Spanish and sheer cuteness. Bu! ! t Miss Jenni was sad because she knew in her heart she would never be able to meet him and dance with him. The boy in the tree cheered her up by taking her hand and running to the stall which sold Sixties dresses and badges and they watched the moon turn pink and made wishes on it. You should always be careful what you wish for, because it may just come true. After Miss Jenni had swooned over Jarvis Cocker and PJ Harvey the next day (whilst also feeling jealous because PJ would always look better than her in a black bra, PVC skirt, 4” Heels and nothing else.) She decided to go and see Jarvis Cocker and Steve Mackey DJ in the dance tent. She was feeling happy because a lovely band called Piano Magic had signed her new CD for her and she had had a waffle smothered with chocolate and she was wearing her nice new Sixties dress. Jarvis and Steve were excellent DJ’s and Miss Jenni really found herself getting into the music. Before she knew it, she was doing an ace little dance with a Scandinavian girl, an Icelandic boy and an English boy. She noticed another boy dancing with them too, although he wasn’t doing their jumpy dance very well. He had blonde hair, and was wearing a stripy T-shirt and black shorts and sounded Scottish and had the sw! ! eetest smile…Miss Jenni lo oked up and claps her hand to her mouth and shouts “Cor Blimey!” Miss Jenni was dancing with none other than Stuart Murdoch. There was a small problem though. Miss Jenni was wearing her very nice dress that made her look very pretty. But she looked down and noticed in shock that a button had fallen off. She was flashing her cleavage at Struan. She looks at Struan. Struan looks at her and goes “Ooooh” Miss Jenni blushes and hurriedly grabs a badge to fasten her dress. Apart from this, he was very nice. He gave her beer and a hug and they danced together for about an hour. When he left, he gave her a very big hug and put his arm around her for a photograph. I’d like to say I lived happily ever after….but I don’t know that yet. However, if you met me at Benicassim, I’d like to say Hello again (especially to the nice people I met dancing at the Jarvis Cocker DJ set on Sunday night-even more so if you let me drink your beer) and also if there are any Sinisterines here who saw a girl wandering around the campsite after the Avalanches on the Friday night swearing loudly in English who had lost her tent…mmmm….that was me. Your offers of alcohol, a place to sleep, a helping hand and more drugs then I could ever take over the whole weekend were much appreciated  Wow, this is a long email. I should probably wave bye-bye. However, I’ve noticed that there has been a lot of talk on here about so-called “Indie kids” on here. I don’t know what to think really. In some sense I would consider myself to be an Indie kid per se. I wear vintage clothes and flares, like wearing original Sixties mod gear and the suchlike. I find it a bit unfair to point the finger and jeer though. Surely in a sense we’re mocking ourselves. I happen to like a hell of a lot of wide-ranging styles of music, from Destiny’s Child, to Pulp, to Tortoise, to Belle and Sebastian. My two favourite bands in the world are Belle and Sebastian and Mogwai. I don’t know, I don’t like teasing other people about something like that I know in a sense that I am. (Although I would never judge a person on how vintage their clothes are-just tell them to buy a pair of flares because I know they would look good in them.) Congratulations to everybody like the lovely and purple obsessed JenOwl for getting straight 1s in her Standard Grades, and the adorable John-John for doing really quite well in his highers too. Everybody who did exams deserves a nice big pat on the back regardless of how they did. As for myself, I got three As (English Lit, Politics and History) and a C (General Studies) in my A-Levels. So at the moment, it’s safe to say I’m feeling quite proud of myself. Anyway, this is long enough already. To all the boys on here who say they like girls in glasses…thank you. If any of you fancy saying Hello to a girl in glasses and a Brownies T-shirt who is currently in Manchester but will be hovering around her new home in Camden next month, you’re more than welcome. Love and Lollipops, Cay xXx P.S. About the title. My friend, the boy in the tree has started growing a beard, but I say it’s evil. So we’re having a referendum about it. To beard, or not to beard? P.P.S I still haven’t found a way to make Sinister posts work on AOL 6.0. Anyone else found out the secret behind AOL’s evil ways yet? "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go But Pickled Onion Monster Munch? Now they're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 00:47:41 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:47:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: To beard or not to beard? (Minus gibberish this time..I'm sorry) Message-ID: <112.37f53d3.28b2fbaa@aol.com> Hello dear Sinisterettes and Sinisterines, I hope you're all sitting comfortably, and have a nice glass of Ribena, or Red Bull, or Rootbear, or whatever takes your fancy by your side. Miss Jenni has a nice little story to tell you all. She didn't want to tell you it when she came back from the sunny lovely place they call Benicassim, as she got back to England and found everybody fighting and sticking tongues out at each other and passing notes under desks and throwing little paper balls at each other. But now you've all settled down and become friends again, I'll begin. Once upon a time, a girl called Miss Jenni and her band of friends called The Dufflecoat Mafia all went to a sunny, lovely place in Spain called Benicassim. Here, everybody was happy, alcohol was plentiful and for some bizarre reason, they deemed Miss Jenni to be worthy of being interviewed for MTV with her best friend the Popkitten, as well as being a model for a style magazine in her stripy tee and Audrey Hepburn sunglasses. Benicassim was a wonderful place. Miss Jenni and the boy in the tree went to see Belle and Sebastian and they jumped up and down and danced a lot and giggled and sang along to all the songs they knew. (We apologise now to anyone who saw us being all loud and jumping up and down and daring Struan to play football with us the next day.) Miss Jenni liked all the new songs they played and all the handclaps in "Wandering Alone.." and Isobel's amazingly lovely Bob Dylan dress. Struan made her giggle with his bad Spanish and sheer cuteness. But Miss Jenni was s! ! ad because she knew in her heart she would never be able to meet him and dance with him. The boy in the tree cheered her up by taking her hand and running to the stall which sold Sixties dresses and badges and they watched the moon turn pink and made wishes on it. You should always be careful what you wish for, because it may just come true. After Miss Jenni had swooned over Jarvis Cocker and PJ Harvey the next day (whilst also feeling jealous because PJ would always look better than her in a black bra, PVC skirt, 4" Heels and nothing else.) She decided to go and see Jarvis Cocker and Steve Mackey DJ in the dance tent. She was feeling happy because a lovely band called Piano Magic had signed her new CD for her and she had had a waffle smothered with chocolate and she was wearing her nice new Sixties dress. Jarvis and Steve were excellent DJs and Miss Jenni really found herself getting into the music. Before she knew it, she was doing an ace little dance with a Scandinavian girl, an Icelandic boy and an English boy. She noticed another boy dancing with them too, although he wasn't doing their jumpy dance very well. He had blonde hair, and was wearing a stripy T-shirt and black shorts and sounded Scottish and had the sweetest smile. Miss ! ! Jenni looked up and claps her ha nd to her mouth and shouts "Cor Blimey!" Miss Jenni was dancing with none other than Stuart Murdoch. There was a small problem though. Miss Jenni was wearing her very nice dress that made her look very pretty. But she looked down and noticed in shock that a button had fallen off. She was flashing her cleavage at Struan. She looks at Struan. Struan looks at her and goes "Ooooh" Miss Jenni blushes and hurriedly grabs a badge to fasten her dress. Apart from this, he was very nice. He gave her beer and a hug and they danced together for about an hour. When he left, he gave her a very big hug and put his arm around her for a photograph. I'd like to say I lived happily ever after, but I don't know that yet. However, if you met me at Benicassim, I'd like to say Hello again (especially to the nice people I met dancing at the Jarvis Cocker DJ set on Sunday night-even more so if you let me drink your beer) and also if there are any Sinisterines here who saw a girl wandering around the campsite after the Avalanches on the Friday night swearing loudly in English who had lost her tent...mmmm...that was me. Your offers of alcohol, a place to sleep, a helping hand and more drugs then I could ever take over the whole weekend were much appreciated. Wow, this is a long email. I should probably wave bye-bye. However, I've noticed that there has been a lot of talk on here about so-called "Indie kids" on here. I don't know what to think really. In some sense I would consider myself to be an Indie kid per se. I wear vintage clothes and flares, like wearing original Sixties mod gear and the suchlike. I find it a bit unfair to point the finger and jeer though. Surely in a sense we're mocking ourselves. I happen to like a hell of a lot of wide-ranging styles of music, from Destiny's Child, to Pulp, to Tortoise, to Belle and Sebastian. My two favourite bands in the world are Belle and Sebastian and Mogwai. I don't know, I don't like teasing other people about something like that I know in a sense that I am. (Although I would never judge a person on how vintage their clothes are-just tell them to buy a pair of flares because I know they would look good in them.) Congratulations to everybody like the lovely and purple obsessed JenOwl for getting straight 1s in her Standard Grades, and the adorable John-John for doing really quite well in his highers too. Everybody who did exams deserves a nice big pat on the back regardless of how they did. As for myself, I got three As (English Lit, Politics and History) and a C (General Studies) in my A-Levels. So at the moment, it's safe to say I'm feeling quite proud of myself. Anyway, this is long enough already. To all the boys on here who say they like girls in glasses, thank you. If any of you fancy saying Hello to a girl in glasses and a Brownies T-shirt who is currently in Manchester but will be hovering around her new home in Camden next month, you're more than welcome. Love and Lollipops, Cay xXx P.S. About the title. My friend, the boy in the tree has started growing a beard, but I say it's evil. So we're having a referendum about it. To beard, or not to beard? P.P.S I still haven't found a way to make Sinister posts work on AOL 6.0. Anyone else found out the secret behind AOL's evil ways yet? P.P.P.S. I'm soooo sorry for all the gibberish before. I told you AOL was evil incarnate. "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go But Pickled Onion Monster Munch? Now they're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.au Tue Aug 21 03:21:49 2001 From: jeremy at xxx.au (Jeremy Tweddle) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:21:49 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Get back on that horse, you great whingeing sod! Message-ID: <000c01c129e8$09229f60$a864a8ca@byways> Dearest Sinister, I'm sorry I haven't written to you for such a long time. It wasn't my fault, I promise! Ummm...I was busy, er...I had a long sleep, I had a liver transplant, I was dead! Actually none of you (well maybe four of you) can actually verify that I wasn't any of these things, so for now I'll stand by them. I feel like I have been asleep in class during a group exercise. You've all been asked questions and answered with flying colours and now the teacher has picked on me and I've no idea what the topic is. All I can say is "er...ah...hmmm?" In truth, I was just off in the listee wilderness known as #sinister and misplaced my courage on the way. So I had to wait for a passing traveller to lick my wounds and bandage my large and rancid gashes. In the role of traveller tonight, we have Miss Llaura Llew. So, many thanks to the llovelly Laura for kicking me in the arse and leading me by the hand, depending on which was required. To all of you #sinisterians, shame on you for making me so welcome. Oh and I'd like to pass my fanclub onto Ken as a sign of respect. I was listening to Revolver this morning (it seems all of my posts originate from the shower for some reason) and was pondering the Chemical Brothers. I figured I can't really hate them because they're a direct descendant from Lennon/McCartney. Though I'm not sure what would've happened if they'd been inspired by Maxwell's Silver Hammer instead. Maybe they'd have become a twee breakbeat duo. For the best example try play Kings Of Convenience with a casio keyboard drumbeat behind it. After consulting my personal archive of knowledge, I found two things: 1) Not much time had passed 2) I knew very little 3) I knew too many old phone numbers and not enough pointless lyrics So, I figured I'd consult the archives of sinister for my past knowledge instead and found two things: 1) I knew very little 2) When you're unemployed, jigsaws are the way to go "So saying he ran off to find an all black puzzle of the Phantom Of The Opera with 1,999 too many pieces" Jeremy ps. I just wanted to put some random names down here to make it look like I've got friends. Mandee, Rich, Sweetie, Madeleine and . Did that work? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Aug 21 10:20:34 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:20:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S California Support Message-ID: <014f01c12a23$d87bd2a0$25ccfc3e@neil> B&S are extremely chuffed to announce that Mr Jonathan Richman will be appearing as the opening act at our shows in San Francisco and Los Angeles. Support for the North West dates will be announced in the next couple of days. Rock on! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Tue Aug 21 12:04:03 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:04:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Listen to your crazy laugh, before you hang a right....... Message-ID: ......and disappear from sight, like the 50 odd sinister peeps who have vanished in the last week or so. A week ago the list had just nudged over 1500, now it stands at 1455. so 3.3% of sinister has magically de-materialised. Were they taken in the night? what emotional support is there for their families? Seriously tho, hope everyone's OK - if you live with or near to anyone on Sinister please look after them, and teather them to a tree if necessary. Second thoughts, maybe it was it a mass walkout by east coast Americans? (but let's not get into that again) I was a corporate whore at the weekend at the V2001 festival in London England's fashionable suburb of Chelmsford. Highlights: Shed Seven, Divine Comedy, Placebo and a big message wall where somebody had painted 'Belle' and a flower with four petals so it looked like a plus sign. I was unable to resist queueing for an hour to paint 'Sebastian' with 'sinister' underneath in the next brick along in the inverted blue/red style of the little badge. See you all (well, those who are left) at the Sinister picnic masquerading as a white stripes convention on Saturday. Eagerly anticipating details of the much publicised postpicnicdancing. Ben xxx **bored of trade since 1978** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sun Aug 19 20:28:59 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:28:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Fury of a small furry animal Message-ID: Well, I wold like to say that I'm truly off piste about this next picnic. Every time there is a picnic, I seem to be somewhere else. Let's see: Primose Hill, 1st picnic: Not out of nursery and not really comfortable in Sinister surroundings yet RAH: At school, evil teacher gave me detention and I only got there after the doors had opened. Greenwhich, after RAH: Prior engagement for my Grandmother's birthday near Manchester which was so boring, evil of me to say but it was. B&S Day: only got back from Greece that very afternoon at about 5 and had flu. Red Knicker Day: Catching Plane from Heathrow to Ireland at 12:30. Maybe should just miss plane and pretend that there was some kind of problem like I fainted on the tube, was helped out and had lost all my memory except location, time and place of picnic. Either can have memory miraculously return as soon as picnic finishes or can live rest of life under name of Jim Anderson, or maybe something seriously simple like John Smith as would never have to spell name like do now. Vesta, honestly. Also, no-one could ever call me any of the following: Swan (Vestas) Curry-man (Vesta Curry- most revolting food on earth) Transvester Sylvester Vester, do you wear vests? (Invented when I was 6 and has been used ever since) Matchstick-boy (The humour of this one eludes me) Vestaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (a is long streched out and has been known to last for almost thirty seconds) Don't suppose I could previal upon everyone to have some kind of eleveneseseses (?) picnic? Also, have grown (upwards) out of corduroy trousers and need new pair both for school and also because I wouldn't be able to show my face on sinister without some. So, here comes the list abuse. Does anyone know a place in London where it is possible to buy a nice pair of preferably flared, black cords? SorrySorrySorrysorrysorry... B&S content: Read The Lonliness of A Long Distance Runner and liked it although I can't really see much connection with the song aside from the title. Never mind. Someone said I was like Brian from Spaced. Having never watched Spaced, did not know if this was good or bad. This was far too long but partly because there were lots of line breaks, so it's not as long as it looks, Joe P.S. If "The Dark is Rising" is the song with a big strings as the refrainy bit, I taped it off the Radio a while back and referred to it when I said I had taped the best song ever. Would have mailed you off list but did not say who you were so couldn't, if you see what I mean. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Tue Aug 21 12:36:28 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:36:28 +200 Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) Sinister: hello world, my but what big feet you ha Message-ID: ooh! ooh! ooh! can i, can i, can i? me me me, i want to contribute too! well... actually i have, but, well, at least i tried to, but it turns out i'm a bit of a klutz who should pay more attention to the little line that says "send reply to", so first things having this nasty tendency to come first, i should probably apologise to johan nilsson, who will now be getting this rather undeserving mail a record second time. and THEN, i finally did send it BUT found out i was still stuck in the nursery. that aside, here's what i TRIED to say the first time (SLIGHTLY edited): "hi everyone, i'm new around here, so just thought i'd breeze in and announce me-little-self: not that i expect anyone to care, but when you've wasted many hours talking endlessly to... you get the picture. (anyway, just felt excited to see another johan on the list - how often does that happen!) well to tell it straight and to the point, i'm from south africa, and if you want to hear all about a moribund indie-scene, well boy (and all you other funny creatures) am i the one to tell you. if you think b&s are a long way from your town - well, as far as i'm aware, they haven't even been played on radio in this country. ANY radio. not ONCE. (the closest that they came was once when barney simon - a horrible ex- "punk" - think billy idol, not johnny rotten or joe strummer - who invented something i sincerely hope is a local disease only - sorry, this parenthesis seems to be developing a life on its own - anyway, who invented "modern rock" which is just horrible i tell you, horrible, at least i hope he invented it and it doesn't exist EVERYWHERE (or is the whole world that boring?) anyway, while reading out the brit indie charts while fold your hands child was tops, he referred to b&s as ... well, it hurts me to say: "well, that just goes to show, the brits will buy anything". stupid sod. anyway, so you see what i'm up against. slight silver lining: at least i know 2 other people here who like b&s, so i'm not all alone, although the tindersticks crusade is still on.) so, enough sharing of the crap for one day, but to conclude: all this talk of picnics have sent me hankering for a little check blanket and goodie-laden basket of my own. any chance of an other south africans here or hereabouts? i am in the cape, and picnic weather's coming round again, so let me know, and we'll graze the grass and chew the cud (hope that didn't come out all wrong!) well, it's been swell, but have to go: laundry should be almost done. (PS. of course it wasn't - ed. ) love JohaN ps. has anyone else heard about the sad fate of the tolkienites in kazakhstan? (the bizarre news we sometimes get around here!) there seems to be some sort of organised hobbiting going on (people meeting up in the forest AND in costume and then re-enacting scenes from the book. now THAT isn't (necessarily) sad, BUT: they're getting thrown in JAIL for it. as in REAL jail with solitary confinement and torture and stuff: it seems hobbiting "promotes the bohemian life" or something. now there's something to get your red knickers in a knot about! how about a protest picnic, all you lucky close-together people (or should i be more serious and sensitive?) pps. what would you call someone who is twee? is there a name? i propose tweet. and how twee is tweed? ppps/ i've only been on for a few days now, but am loving it: keep up the crazy chatter! pppps sorry for the long post, especially from a first-comer who should have more respect for decorum. thanks to all who slogged through it this far! ppppps dimitra is the loveliest person ever, for replying to my post off- list. thank you again. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 13:44:23 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:44:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilking, post-picnic stylee Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F80373394@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> ***this is a public service announcement*** This Saturday (25th), come along to TIGERMILKING, London's premier nitespot for the B&S connoisseur. This month we're downstairs at *The BETSEY TROTWOOD* pub in Farringdon - many of you will know it already, but for those of you who don't, it's about 5 minutes walk from Farringdon tube - right out of the station, right at the crossroads, then walk for 5 minutes and it's on the right hand side of the road. If you're going to the picnic, just follow the massed ranks of joyful anticipation who'll be heading that way. NB the downstairs bit - there may be something else going on upstairs, but that's nothing to do with us, no sir. It's on from 8pm until 1am, and will cost 4 pounds (or 6.35 Euros). Dancing will be near-compulsory, to tunes from the Byrds to Add N to X, Hefner to Jonathan Richman, Spiller to the Moldy Peaches, topped with lashings and lashings of creamy Belle and Sebastian. Y'all come, you hear? If you want any further info, or for me to beg you to come (and I'll be happy to do so), email me privately. It's worth stating that the Betsey is the smallest venue we've done, with space for only about 50-60 hardened souls, so come early - we WILL sell out. Literally and metaphorically, I expect. Have I forgotten anything? Groses bises, BG Markx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 12:59:48 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:59:48 Subject: Sinister: People who call themselves indie are shite Message-ID: There, I've said it. There's been some talk about indie do's and dont's, and I thought I'd contribute something to the list. All genres of music have their very own cliques. They think they are better than other people. But lately I've started to think that indie hipsters are maybe the worst of them all. Hand on your heart; Look into the mirror and say: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were you able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in his/her cd- collection? Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that later) aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten and deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to understand that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really don't care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think about it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about those people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they? As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers and a B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. Some people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is like a secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image of yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they look on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off. I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell well. I am not a better person because I wear these clothes. I am not better because I have this hair. I am not a better person than people who aren't a part of this list. -JF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casparium at xxx.uk Tue Aug 21 15:27:25 2001 From: casparium at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kirsty?=) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:27:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: early morning adventures Message-ID: <20010821142725.47851.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Dearest sinister, This morning over breakfast of teas and hot toast dripping with honey sorry, I was reading The Daily Telegraph and came across this which you may (or may not) find interesting: “Todd Solondz...drew fierce controversy three years ago for Happiness, a film featuring sympathetic if squirm inducing portrayals of a paedophile a stalker and a murderer. His new movie storytelling is split into two parts; the first 'fiction' is set in a creative writing class; the second 'non-fiction' follows a documentary-maker and the dysfunctional family he films. In both sections, characters are confronted with precisely the same criticisms Solondez has faced, suggesting that he may be weary of accusations of tastelessness, and has become more interested in mining the moral and artistic dilemmas inherent in this seam of drama. This new focus provides a welcome addition to the uncomfortable laughter of his trademark taboo-breaking comedy, but one must hope it does not lead him to lose the ability to confront truly dangerous subject matter. The most explosive issue in this movie -the sort of high-school gun massacre that devastated Columbine- is flagged up, but never deeply explored with the fearless gaze that Solondz brought to Happiness. Never the less with strong performances by John Goodman and Paul Giamatti, Storytelling is certainly a film to watch out for when it opens later this year.” apologies for making you read all of that in the vain hope that B&S might get a mention but still I hope you all found it mighty interesting. B&S don't seem a touch shy about backing up crazy little films. One morning about a month ago I couldn't sleep. I ended up curled up in a chair watching The Open University on BBC2. It was all about filmmaking. Anyway to end the show they played this incredibly strange short film about a boy who was obsessed about horses. I can't remember the exact plot, but horses seemed to feature quite prominently and swinging along in the background was none other than 'Judy and the dream of horses'. appropriate? yeah, you could say. anyway best be off, goodbye all, kirsty ( I can't believe I admitted to reading The Daily Telegraph in my first post)XX ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 15:24:18 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:24:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The state i am indie Message-ID: <003301c12a4d$3de2b2c0$a8f9883e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I always thought the whole point of the "indie-do" thing was to pull. Look at my "Camden Townie" gear! Wow I love that boy there he's wearing flares and wears a duffle coat over a cardigan! *swoons* * Girl chats boy up * Girl flies into boy's arms to snog boy whilst boy leads her to his room to show off his ahem "record collection" I based that theory on the fact that, I never wore the said items, and no girls ever chat me up. If that's not a sound theory I dunno what is! lauren said: >>based on my own experiences at indie rock concerts i can conclude that the indie rock scene is pretentious, fake, and breeds snobby, judgmental people. << Therefore, if you want to breed non-snobby, non-judgemental people, next time you go to an indie-rock place, breed with me! More seriously tho, I have met some people in the "indie rock scene" who have struck me as being pretentious, but not any more than people in any other "scene" (there are probably people who will get into heated debate about how papa roach are better than limp bizkit), and anyway if you know in your heart that you're not pretentious or fake, then it doesn't matter whether other people are or not. Although, in order to pull, I should start to pretend to be more pretentious. JohaN HUGO said: >>pps. what would you call someone who is twee? is there a name? i propose tweet. and how twee is tweed?<< Some people use "twee fucker", personally I think it's a bit rude. Madeleine McNeil said: >>Nelly Whatshername who sang that song about the bird << Do you mean Nelly Retardo? My friend told me that in the song she sings "she's hung like a bird", I didn't believe him, but when I listened to it, she *does*! Will Porter said: >>Speaking of crushes, shockingly little attention seems to be paid to the list crush thingy anymore. Back in my day, list crushes were something we participated in, dammit<< Yeah, innit, nowadays people just *say* they like you, but never *crush* you. sob sob. Crushes and Red Bulls Ken (who *is* "indier than thou") +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 15:59:40 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:59:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: boo Message-ID: <6521696CB3695D1168360005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> whew, it has been a few days...nothing really interesting has been happening lately so i haven't had much to write about. a couple of incidents of minor interest: 1) i was forced to spend what would have been an enjoyable evening hiding from a scary boy attempting to psychoanalyze me and also attempting to invade my personal space over a pot of lilac tea. 2) last night i tasted something called flowery white picos. 3) everything else is even more boring than 1 and 2. we were talking about indie folk at work yesterday and started up about a place called atomic records, a shop down the street from my old house. they have a nice enough selection, but you have to be very very careful what you choose or you will be doomed to a lifetime of ugly atomic experiences. gina's boyfriend jon bought an ogre album there like four years ago and the boy who was working that day still won't talk to him, and he won't let him listen to albums in the store anymore. when jon asks to listen to something, he says, "no, we're not letting people do that today" and goes back to reading the onion or the shepherd express or something. the boy was nice to gina until she bought some sort of live dave matthews thing one day, and now he won't make eye contact. gina wanted to go to kinko's and make stickers that say "people who work at atomic are stupid assmunches" but she really does like one of the boys who works there and doesn't wish to offend him. the atomic staff have always been nice enough to me, but i think that can be contributed to one of three reasons: a) i have made wise purchases and gained approval b) i look enough like an authorized 'indie girl' to pass without intense scrutiny or c) i always look so terrified when i go in there that they feel sorry for me and decide to be nice. probably a bit of all three. i would probably buy an assmunch sticker, anyway. xoxo kirsten ps--my friends all laugh at me in my scarves and cardigans and also say things like "where the hell do you find this weirdass music, you weirdass?" 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 16:14:53 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:14:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: important "indie" rantings Message-ID: Hmmm, What kind of people are you people meeting? I've always found this woe is me attitude an excuse to avoid meeting and introducing yourself to other people. Your mantra seems to be - I will become a paranoid insular freak before I put myself on the line and try and break through the impenetrable stuffy attitude of the "other indie hipsters". What type of mantra is this? Are you growing as an individual or an introvert? These types of e-mail are based on fear more so than one-dimensional prototype indie-kids. We would all like to believe that all those people who appear cooler and cliquey are, but I bet you any money those people get their hearts broken and their feelings stamped on and are haunted by as many insecurities as you. I was thrust into the same clique mentality not by myself but by sniveling losers who had more time to mope around and pick out other people than work on their own insecurities. You people complaining seem to have a lot of cyber courage why not exercise it on the outside world. If you don't want these people as your friends and have already pasted pre-conceived one-dimension personalities on these "indie cliques" then why are you bothering to worry about them? Obviously you don't respect their lifestyle and musical ethics and as such it would be easier to ignore what doesn't appeal to you rather than rambling on in a quasi good vs. evil fashion. As for a lack of diversity, where do you live? And by what measure are we speaking of diversity, as in race? Let's face it indie music has very little monetary power and therefore very little exposure, it has a cult following. Every heard of payola? It sort of runs the music industry. The indie surge of 93-96 is long past us and few indie bands are garnering any type of press outside of Europe and Japan. You have to respect that it takes a little more work as a musical aficionado to uncover indie music. This does not mean it is better and I know many people on this list are burning cd's for their peers who aren't in the "indie" know trying to expose some of this beautiful music. These type of protective e-mails startle me. You have made a firm decision to not include yourself in a sub-culture which is fine but why is it anyone's responsibility to explain that which you don't respect? Scenes are fascinating in their social and psychological dynamics. I have never ever not spoken to someone based on their clothing or clean hair, I myself prefer new clothing and clean hair. My scene is made up of glam, punk, rockabilly, mods, goths, rockers, brit-poppers, indie kids, fashionistas, jocks and college kids. There is no bizarre fascist allegiance with any of these people, that is purely the invention of someone who is extremely paranoid. Just because we like the same music doesn't mean we're always going to click as people but why are you taking that personally? A lot more goes into an individual then just the club they frequent, the clothes they wear and the music they collect. Of course there are people I don't get along with but it certainly hasn't been because they can't match my collection of 7"'s! What do you expect to find at indie rock shows exactly besides fans? You can't ship people from other sub-cultures in against their will...although it would be quite humorous. People who "party" aren't going to see Tahiti 80 live anymore than I'm going to run out and endure their scene, but at least I have tried. Chris --Extraordinary how potent cheap music is-- ***Noel Coward*** >From: Thefoxxinthesnow at xxx.com >Reply-To: Thefoxxinthesnow at aol.com >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: important "indie" rantings >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:46:41 EDT > > >hello there. �for quite some time i've been a lurker, but i feel now the >time >is more important than ever to write, not for any particular reason other >than to question the whole indie scene (thus encompassing an entire scary >subculture). > >don't get me wrong, i listen to indie music. �but if you saw me you might >not >think it. �i work at (gasp! a corporation) banana republic, and i like my >hair to look washed (because it is). �i like to consider myself a purist; i >don't listen to belle to belong to some strange and snobbish subculture but >instead for the music, plain and simple. > >the indie-rock scene lacks diversity. �go to any concert of any other genre >and you'll find some many "types" of people, people who have joined with a >similar love for music. �go to an indie rock show and you'll only find >indie >rock people. so silly. �people who will only talk to you if you look like >you >love the music (?!) �� > >based on my own experiences at indie rock concerts i can conclude that the >indie rock scene is pretentious, fake, and breeds snobby, judgmental >people. >�the music of the indie rock scene is supposed to contain more beauty, to >have more meaning to the people who listen to it than fans of other types >of >non-indie music yet indie music fans can only turn and judge another person >on how vintage their clothing is.... >explain how that makes the indie music scene more mature and enlightened >than >any other. > >lauren >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Tue Aug 21 18:08:28 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:08:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester picnic/meet-up affair? Message-ID: <200108211708.f7LH8Sg04585@mail.redbricks.org.uk> i notice there are often picnics in york, london, various parts of america . . . why not in manchester? are there any other sinister pople out there around manchester, or am i the only one? would anyone out there like to do a meet up? either reply to me, or maybe on the list as a whole so other people can see it . . . ? antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Tue Aug 21 21:03:13 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:03:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fw: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool are shite Message-ID: <005401c12a7c$5cf117e0$ab8a87d9@fsnet.co.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Carter" To: "Something Sinister" Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Fw: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool are shite > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Carter" > To: "jarkko frantila" > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:44 PM > Subject: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool > are shite > > > > In answer to Miss JF's comments... > > > There, I've said it. There's been some talk about indie do's and dont's, > > and > > > I thought I'd contribute something to the list. > > > > > > All genres of music have their very own cliques. They think they are > > better > > > than other people. But lately I've started to think that indie hipsters > > are > > > maybe the worst of them all. Hand on your heart; Look into the mirror > and > > > say: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were > > you > > > able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who > > > doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in > > > his/her cd- collection? > > > > > > Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that > > later) > > > aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some > > > hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten > and > > > deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to > understand > > > that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch > > > singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really > don't > > > care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think > > about > > > it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about > > those > > > people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they? > > > > Wooh there! You're saying that stating you don't care for gay people is > like > > stating that you don't like people into mainstream? > > > > Although I get your point, there are a couple of pretty glaring flaws in > > that statement > > > > 1. Do you think people choose to become gay? Do you really think it's a > > lifestyle choice in the same way as your listening habbits are? > > 2. Like it or not, with cliques come behaviour pattens. People who choose > to > > dress and certain way, or listen to a certain kind of music tend to share > > common traits. This is the essence of cliquedom, and why, if you actually > > dig a bit deeper than the obvious, they are neccesary. Now, a guy walking > > down the street with a shaved head, a tattoo saying 'Fuck the police' and > > wearing a Limp Bizkit t-shirt may be the nicest in the world, but would > you > > walk up to him and say hello? Would you expect a kid wearing a B&S t-shirt > > to be into violence? I didn't think so. Now, I'm not saying these > > stereotypes always hold water, but people who choose cliques often do so > > because they fit their mindset, and hence there is always an overlap > between > > stereotype and the real world. > > > > > As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers > and > > a > > > B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my > > > clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. > > Some > > > people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is > like > > a > > > secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image > > of > > > yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they > look > > > on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same > > > clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off. > > > > They could have an idea about you though. Don't you choose the clothes you > > wear in order to reflect how you feel, and the values you relate to? > > Personally I've never worn flares or a duffel coat in my life, and I never > > will, but the doesn't mean I wouldn't recognise that I might have more in > > common with someone who did... > > > > > I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell > well. > > > > It's more about being choosy about music, rather about not excepting > > anything with easy hooks that the media tell people to like. I don't think > > most people really think about their music at all. Having said that, my > best > > friend at University listens to Eminem and even bought a Limp Bizkit > single, > > but I respect her taste more than a lot of 'indie' people because I don't > > actually think she's had it forced on her by anyone. > > > > > I am not a better person because I wear these clothes. > > > > > > I am not better because I have this hair. > > > > > > I am not a better person than people who aren't a part of this list. > > > > agreed. > > > > Peter > > > > p.s. There seems to be a disturbing number of 'indie' people claiming they > > like one, and only one, bad pop band in order to prove they aren't > > pretentious. These people are almost always the most pretentious. > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 21:16:24 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: five out of five and a freebie Message-ID: <20010821201624.94009.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> hello darlings, well, I've nearly finished my stint as a worker. The past week and a half I've been working for an estate agents (ie. crooks) and being on the receiving end of a lot of grief. It makes you switch off after a bit, and go all apathetic. Thank goodness for lunchbreaks. Whole load of stuff for you. Hello to all the sinners I saw at the Tom Paulin gig at Nice N Sleazy on Saturday. You know who you are, t'was good to see thee there. For those who didn't know, it was a fantastic gig, and I have romantic non-sexual feelings towards the smouldering foxy sex kitten who plays violin for Saloon. Also playing were bunica, and the wonderous Great Lakes. Totally and heavenly recommended. Seriously, kids, think about it next time you're browsing the record shops with your pocket money burning a hole in your neat little crocheted purses and your embroidered wallets. Thats first of all. Second of all, got second issue of fanzine Point of Isolation sorted. Will be on sale from oooh.. Thursday. It will possibly be possible to stalk me at the 13th note cafe on Thursday evening. So go and do your research, check out my site, and then hunt me down. But please, lets leave the Eastenders kidnapping roleplay for the bedroom, huh? ( http://www.geocities.com/idleberry ) Whats in the zine? urrr.. a big long review of B+S. and loads of other stuff that might tickle your pickle. Pleasingly, its fatter than the last issue. Big is beautiful. Appendix out, sennen, Sputniks Down, Bilyy Mahonie, Motorhead, and a whole bunch of Scots bands who are up and rising thru the ranks of giggin'. Thats the second bit. Third bit. Has anyone else noticed that summers almost shut down up in Scotland? Its making me sad. I feel all lonesome, I want the summer to continue, cos otherwise I'll have to face up to the fact that I'm not going back to uni again. fourth bit: I've not had much time to check e mails,what with, havin' a job. But thursday is my sort of "I don't have a job today" day, so I'll be able to sort out aspects of my life that are on hold. fifth bit: I love my guitars again. We're getting along well again. And thats all the bits I have for your digestion. Love, hugs and air biskits, idles. xxxxxxx ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BCSVENDSEN at xxx.com Tue Aug 21 21:20:46 2001 From: BCSVENDSEN at xxx.com (Brian Svendsen) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:20:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: To anybody willing to Message-ID: To anybody willing to classify themselves or anyone else in terms of "coolness" and what "scene" is it , that they are part of. Get over yourself. "Indie" is a word. Thats all it is,It is no more then a marketing scheme to appeal to a certain cross section of society just as Limp Bizkit is . Any one claiming to be "indie" is the farthest thing of their definition of it. As most people, certain things appeal to me, I dress a certain way and listen to certain music. I listen because I like it, plain and simple and I dress good because after all , how many girls would I get if I dressed like a dirtbag. I work at a huge corporation too , ....so I can eat, pay rent and enjoy myself. everybody its time to get off your soap boxes. and just except everybody for what they are, people. simple as that. ....you'll always have people that you think are really alright..but like any cross section of society theres goin to be assholes... no matter if they are dressed all "indie", like a "thug" or "corprate america", they will simply just be a bunch assholes... anyway, your all still alright in my book. brian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 06:01:24 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:01:24 -0700 Subject: Sinister: essex girls Message-ID: <003301c12ac8$54f73f00$a96501d5@aqlzosqt> it's nearly a whole week since robin made his outrageous implications about my smuttiness, and only now am i responding to the traditional irresistible sinister lure of seeing one's name mentioned (albeit in dubious context). but here i am. just back from an exhausting uk (west coast only) tour of strip joints and nudist beaches. it's also now quite late to comment on the angelina jolie/b&s merger, i suppose. but i am thrilled at the prospect and consider angelina an indie enough proposition (despite tomb raider) not to blow the the band's cover and expose them as, god forbid, a pop group. the only question is: will the fans mistake angelina's lips for isabel's posterior and vice versa...? content (unrelated to isabel's arse): my housemate is now working with struan's old best mate colin at the ymca in brighton. but third hand gossip about stuart as a bairn will only passed on if strictly in the public interest (or dirty). spent the weekend in colchester with ex-yorkies. thinking about it, in our day the assembled company could almost have been a prototype york massive (non-sinister apart from me, but all b&s fans). we had an excellent time despite being in colchester - amongst other things, went to a playground and i got my arse jammed in a slide and said 'shit' in front of a toddler. we also listened to kings of convenience a lot and i can report to the unconverted that they improve greatly combined with laughter, wine and spanish omelette. i also want to mention that on the train home i finished reading the dice man, a book about which i have oddly mixed feelings. i find myself frequently wanting to make 'dice decisions', while also feeling slightly sick/disappointed at the directions the novel takes. any thoughts? snake eyes: i go and change my life any other combination: i go to bed wow - i feel so liberated now i've turned my life over to chance. night night. luv archel xxx on the stereo: pet sounds in the street: seagull sounds *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 02:26:36 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:26:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: LEICESTER PEOPLE support your county with pride at this weekend's picnic Message-ID: <112.391edce.28b4644c@aol.com> all = "Where is the beer?!?!?" james = "I know there has to be some more in this fridge" drunken sitting room inhabitant's = "look behind the cottage cheese,ha ha ha" james walk's/stumble's back into sitting room from kitchen to find lot's of pissed people lining the carpet fast asleep or doing first class impression's of sleeping And so I find my self here... Well I could tell you all about my mother's latest shopping craze,cottage cheese. but apart fromthere being alot of it and mum's sudden reallisation that she's probbably breaking several law's due to the amount of "traditional sandwich filler" she's accumulated there's not much else to say. This evening has been quite enterbtaining though and the indieism conversation has now escaped the confine's of the computor and into my house.(look there it is! quick pass me a suitable container to trap the little bastard and I'll chuck it out the window) We,in our infinate wisdom have come to the somewhat obvious yet seemingly over looked point of...."surely the clothes are a way of showing who you are and what you like in the same way as football fan's wear a team strip". Take the B&S T shirt-talk for instance. People were saying lot's of good thing's about them,like people would come up and talk to them and all of a sudden they have a new friend (hey,it happened to me. hello Steve if you're on yet) So let's just talk about something else now shall we 'cos otherwise it'll turn into somesort of "where do we come from" type arguement and there'll just be lot's of lost/screwed up people wondering who they truly are and the world has enough people like that already so just dress as you like and be your own person (man!..peace...love) if you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. Jams. And so end's James' second alcohol fueled post. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Wed Aug 22 12:18:04 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:18:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm coming out... Message-ID: <004b01c12afc$38ffd4e0$f87d893e@chris> ...to play LISTS Well, the PineFox certainly didn't help Mr Hallifax's phone bill. We've been discussing song writers long and hard. We decided the long ones were best. TWISTS I am on holiday for a bit because I've run out of work at my job. I worked so hard that I've done everything! Luckily, like idleberry, I'm now friends with my guitar and we are having fun together. NICPICING Nicpicing on Saturday sounds fun. Where does a boy buy red pants. I'm just going to have to colour in a pair of black boxers with felt tip. Tigermilking sounds dangerous and Asm Walton would be well advised to leave it alone. INDIE SCHMINDIE Ken was spot on, people try to be indie in order to pull and that's all there is to it. I'm pushing indie fashion to the limits today and am teetering on the fine line between indie and twat. On the same thread...I am doing a degree in philosophy and I didn't understand a word of what the Red Geisha was on about. HOBB-NOBBING Johan talked about the poor people of Kazakhstan and their hobbiting. I'll never feel safe in the woods again. Although if I saw people were getting arrested for it, I'd just stop doing it. Perhaps I'm a wuss (cut the perhaps). OOOHHH STRUAN... Cay got my Struan juices running again. What is it about that man. I wish I could dance with him, he moves very well. Lord Anthony is lovely. I know I'm a bit behind the times there, but this Mp3 thing is way beyond me. WEASEL One ran down my garden this morning Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 11:29:34 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:29:34 Subject: Sinister: General Anaesthetic Junkies Message-ID: Hello!!! Okay, so that was a bit of an over-enthusiastic opener, but then again I�ve just heard the new Spiritualized single on the radio. It�s soooo wonderful. And have you seen the packaging for their new album? Yum� Anyway, just a few things � nothing really to do with B&S, although I **could** put some sort of contrived spin on it if you want. Okay then, I won't bother. Basically, the Big News is that tomorrow I�m going to have a Big Scary Operation on my buggered knee. And I�m scared. I�m not really scared about the operation because the guy who�s doing it seems to know what he�s doing, but it�s the anaesthetic that�s giving me the heebie-jeebies. Y�see, I�ve never had a general one before, and the idea of someone knocking me out and all the rest of it just seems to be asking for trouble. Anyway, that�s what's scaring me at the moment, so if there are any General Anaesthetic Junkies out there who want to re-assure me, go right ahead� In other news� just heard the new ShitSailor record on the radio, and I�m being totally seriously here: he sounds like Robbie Williams. HE DOES!! HE DOES!! Next time you hear it, just picture Robbie singing, and it make sense. And now, a plea. It�s a long shot, but here goes. Did anybody hear the Breezeblock on Radio1 on Monday night? Anyway, Fatboy Slim was DJ-ing, and he played a track called �Drumbeat� by Jim Ingram, and apparently it�s on the Respect label, which was a sub-sid of Stax. If anybody has this record or knows where I could get a copy, could they email me off-list? Please! I **need** this track! Oh yeah, Rachel CrnflkGrl0 said about not wanting to play B&S to people because she�s worried they�d laugh at the high bits. I sympathise greatly, because I have the same problem with playing people the Tindersticks. Stuart Staples� wobbly �Vic-Reeves-in-a-club-style� voice is beautiful, but takes a bit of getting used to, especially if all you�ve been brought up on is Robbie/James Walsh. Anyway, not much really to say at the mo � I might be at the picnic on Saturday, but nothing�s for certain, because of the ol� Major Reconstructive Keyhole Surgery on my knee on Thursday. Niiiiice. Well, keep on keepin� on people� Love Asm.x (aka Mini-Beans) ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Aug 22 12:59:41 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:59:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I know what I did last summer Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F08@PIKACHU> I think it's about this point where Honey would normally start warning people (not anyone in particular, naturally) to make sure their posts don't start turning into flames. I'm not quite sure what provoked all these anti-indie-snob diatribes, since I don't recall any such attitudes recently; but remember, those attitudes must exist with some people on a list this size, so let's not slag anyone off, OK? And anyway, we've discussed this many times before, as you could see in the archives if they existed at the moment ;-) I decided a while ago that if somebody doesn't want to like me because of something I believe, or a way I act, or something I say, or whatever else, chances are they must be someone I wouldn't get on with anyway, so I'm not losing anything from the situation. My life's been a lot more stress-free since adopting that philosophy. Try it sometime... I know noone asked me to be babysitter while Honey's out, so I'll go back to doing normal babysitter things like making long-distance phonecalls and raiding the drinks cabinet. Nice to see Archel posting; but very disappointing to see that it was almost entirely devoid of smut. One short sentence about your arse just isn't good enough. Your reputation will start to slip, and we can't have that. Angelina Jolie - the new Monica Queen. Who'd have thought it? I bet Stuart will be quite happy, but Isobel might get upset that it's someone else's arse getting all the attention. I have been accused of betraying my principles in my last post. So to clear up any confusion, just because I think the Lilac Time are a delight of melodic wonderment doesn't mean I've given up trying to convert you all to the joys of The Whitlams. It's just hard persuading people of the merits of a band whose records haven't been released in this country yet. I always thought the whole point of everything Ken does was to pull. Big Stu PS The reason there haven't been loads of Manchester picnics is because it's always raining. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Wed Aug 22 13:55:10 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (u07lec at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:55:10 GB Subject: Sinister: ding! Message-ID: hello, good afternoon, hello, I will, first of all, voice my agreement with idleberry on the complete shutdown of the scottish summer; I don't think it ever even started here, but I might have missed it that one day in May when I went to England, so I better not say anything without proof. Don't want to be accused of basing my comments on any unsound facts - if we all took notice of ken's style of scientific reasoning, the world would be a better place. Archel mentioned the diceman, I completely empathise with her feelings; the book makes you feel a loathing for the diceman, and you feel completely detached from him and his lifestyle, but still you find yourself thinking "hmmm...". How easy would it be to let somebody/something else make all your decisions for you? Of course, you'd have to get rid of your conscience first. I vote we all try it out on saturday, see where the dice takes us.... or not. Archel also mentioned seagulls - I live FAR too close to a huge nesting place of seagulls in the middle of a city, and it's the only time in my life I've ever considered mass murder with a blunt instrument. If anyone has any suggestions on instruments that could possibly be used, please email me... they're city seagulls, probably quite streetwise, so they may well be wise to the baking soda trick. I've tried shouting at them to shut up, I've even tried playing them some nice music, but it's not working. Give me pet sounds over seagull sounds anyday, archel. On the whole subject of indie fascists: peter carter said this: "with cliques come behaviour pattens. People who choose > to > > dress and certain way, or listen to a certain kind of music tend to share > > common traits. This is the essence of cliquedom, and why, if you actually > > dig a bit deeper than the obvious, they are neccesary." (except maybe without all the arrows and in a slightly more flowing style) He also said: "They could have an idea about you though. Don't you choose the clothes you > > wear in order to reflect how you feel, and the values you relate to? > > Personally I've never worn flares or a duffel coat in my life, and I never > > will, but the doesn't mean I wouldn't recognise that I might have more in > > common with someone who did..." and he ALSO said: " There seems to be a disturbing number of 'indie' people claiming they > > like one, and only one, bad pop band in order to prove they aren't > > pretentious. These people are almost always the most pretentious." I say "yay" to ALL of that. Ken Chu said: "I have met some people in the "indie rock scene" who have struck me as being pretentious, but not any more than people in any other "scene" " and I say "yay" to this as well. In regards to ken's other comments about pulling and suchlike, I'll be selling my new "prime genetic material" t-shirts, so make sure you bring plenty of spare cash along....pulling made easy!! People generally think that certain other people on the same 'scene' as them are pretentious and snobby, because they've never spoken to them (I said generally, not always). In my experience, this seems to happen a lot, because a fair proportion of the 'indie' people I've known have been shy, and maybe think that other people are somehow cooler or more 'indie' than them. I know this because I was like that a few years back. Then you start to speak to people through other things, not knowing they're involved in any sort of scene, and then find out at some point that they're actually one of those people you always thought didn't speak to you because you weren;t cool enough for them. You realise that they're actually every bit as shy and retiring as you, they weren't being snobby or aloof, they were just as scared to speak to you as you were to them. Yes, there are some dickheads who ARE actually snobs, and DO think they're cooler than you, but they're the exception rather than the rule. So make indie love, not war. or something.... On a brighter note, I will be coming to saturday's picnic, and as I've only ever met one person on this list, I'm suitably excited. I'm staying at La Casa de Priscila, so hopefully that means I'll get first dibs on the strawberries and cream. I'll be the one with red pants and strawberry-stained hands. And tigermilking sounds like damn good fun. love lyns --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DISS Web Mail. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/mailman/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 14:06:15 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:06:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Music for Chameleons Message-ID: My point was trying to be constructive, unfortunately that can be construed negatively, apparently opinions if written passionately are seen as negative on this list. I suppose my overall point was basically celebrate who you are and if people aren't perceptive enough to notice you, why waste your time denigrating them? I just find it unbecoming to write a post lashing out at an entire sub-culture. I doubt people decide to be in a "scene", it more or less exists as a label to simplify for society. I'm sure we've all been grouped this way but we don't wake up in the morning (I would assume) thinking like a Brit Pop Girl or a Mod Boy and if someone does, who cares! I know my life has been more rewarding and sometimes trying meeting new people but at least I don't regret it, I would regret being a 25 year old girl who never ventured outside her own insecurities. On a much lighter note, I will be in Glasgow the first week of September and I want to know of any lovely indie nights happening. I imagine I will be inebriated most of my trip but I would love to cut some rug while I'm in town. Any advice on club nights (indie or not) would be appreciated! ta ra, Chrissy >I think it's about this point where Honey would normally start warning >people (not anyone in particular, naturally) to make sure their posts don't >start turning into flames. I'm not quite sure what provoked all these >anti-indie-snob diatribes, since I don't recall any such attitudes >recently; >but remember, those attitudes must exist with some people on a list this >size, so let's not slag anyone off, OK? And anyway, we've discussed this >many times before, as you could see in the archives if they existed at the >moment ;-) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.siegl at xxx.at Wed Aug 22 15:24:04 2001 From: vanessa.siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:24:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: how to get lots of responses Message-ID: <3B83C084.1490CC64@uibk.ac.at> Following some thoughts I had in #sinister yesterday; I really, just once, would like to write a post that then starts a discussion that then turns into a semi-flamewar. Something I have never managed because I am either to boring or not non-controversial enough ... Or maybe, not having that many friends, not trained in that sort of thing. Whenever I meet my best friend together with a larger group of his friends the discussions see, to revolve mostly around 1) the latest / upcoming holiday 2) how to name your baby 3) rude waiters in restaurants that had been recently frequented 4) Tv / movies This normally seems to spark great response and keep the table busy for an evening or so. On mailinglists it normally seems to be 1) the latest single / album (took too long to arrive, is not as good as the old stuff, is really great, why did they use this and not "..." as a single) 2) band "..." (sound just like, are boring ripoffs, are really great and you must like them, are shit) 3) napster (or audiogalaxy or whatever .. is evil, is great, is ripping off the artist, is great for promotional reasons, makes people buy more/less/no different amount of cds 4) indiemusic fans (or pulp fans or fans of any other bands are just like everyone else / different / cool / not better than anyone else / better than everyone else / don't exist / a desirable thing to be / know more /less than others have great/bad/onesided music taste) Nothing new can be said to any of this. What I am writing has been said lots of time before. So what is the point? Except for my vanity and my need to say something while saying nothing at all. Then there is the nice stuff of course ... stories people sent that maybe do not spark a discussion but would deserve a reply nonetheless; friendships that get formed behind the scenes... All the stuff that mostly is not vanity but nice and heartfelt. Vanessa -- normally I am not like that, honestly! http://www.clodia.f2s.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Wed Aug 22 16:14:07 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:14:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reading, innit! Message-ID: cor blimey babies, what a week and it's only wednesday! i'm being v naughty as i have not read all the previous mails having been deprived of email acces for about a week, although clever old miss print saved up all the messages and sent them to me when my mail was working again, isn't she clever :) ANYWAY, in a bit of a rush, so READING. I know several of you are going, so here is my PLAN: carsmilesteve plan for reading 2001 after the moldy peaches on friday (i'd guess about 1.30-2 ish looking at the running order), meet up in front of the nearest beer tent (which if it's laid out like last year will be just opposite the carling tent). any probs or if yr late and want to meet up later it's 07733 205562. anyone who can keep me amused whilst mrs carsmile watches king adora might even get a pint bought for them ;) if you want to mail me about it pls use carsmilesteve at yahoo.com as i won't be at work til next wednesday now, which is nice :) do you think i've got a good face for radio? xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 16:13:28 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:13:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: show me, please, how i will look in twenty years Message-ID: helloooo first off, Sam Walton, i am a proud general anaesthetic junkie. when you get to the hospital you'll probably be shaking in your paper booties, but suddenly they'll roll a bed past you to the op room and the person lying in it will be some smiley-faced guy who looks like he was pulled straight from a woodstock video and that's when you'll know everything's going to be alright. it'll be fun, and legal! i have been offered a job as a teacher's aide in eau claire, wisconsin, about four hours northwest of milwaukee. it's a pretty town, but it's small, and also i don't know if i could handle being surrounded by children all the time...but i suppose i might get to read lovely children's books and look at finger paintings and the like, which would be great fun. my only teaching experiences have been when i used to be a junior counselor at a camp and i taught music, art, drama, soccer and archery. at least i hope that's all i taught them, although i'm sure they wondered why some of the counselors were always wandering off into the woods and returning smelling like a bar. oh dear. look at what i've written so far...general anaesthetic is "fun" and oh, i hope i never accidentally taught unhealthy habits to grade schoolers. i'm going to go hide now. xoxo kirsten covering her eyes and peeking timidly through her fingers Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 22 18:01:13 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:01:13 Subject: Sinister: school, schoolpictures, schoolfood, schoolpeople. Message-ID: <149189302@spray.se> Hiya all of you.. I´ve just started school again.. Yesterday was quite awful, but today has been really nice, somehow. At art class, our first thing ot do will be to design a lp or cdcover! I am going to do, of course, something B&S, I´m going to do such a nice booklet to it, with band history, and all that. Aah.. We´re also going to make comics on the theme love.. I think I´ll do something with a record store as the main place (unexpected, huh?). I´ve had a nice day, really, I must say that I´m in a really good mood. And tomorrow we have "social day", all the people in my class and the rest of the 15-year-olds in my school are going to, before lunch, talk about masculine and feminine stuff, and then, after lunch.. we´re going to dance!! Foxtrot, walse, you name it, we´ll dance it! It´ll be so much fun! I think it is a wee bit of practising for our prom next spring.. But anyway, dancing is so much fun.. I am a bit worried over dance partners, I admit that. I kind of hope that there will be more girls than boys, because then I could dance with my friends, and I would be able to really enjoy it.. Think about it, how big is the chance that you could realx and feel natural if you dance with someone you´ve like never talked to? Hmm.. It´ll work out. I´ve read a bit about people befriending their guitars again.. and I can say that I have as well. I was planning to quit taking lessons and just make it on my own.. but my guitarteacher called last night and convinced me start again. He is one of the most pretentious people I know, and yet, he´s just 22 yet. He is going to be a psychiatrist, and he thinks he knows EVERYTHING about life. We used to be quite good friends, but then he really hurt me and I still haven´t quite forgiven him for it. We used to talk on the phone almost every day before, but now I never call him. So yesterday when he called, do you KNOW what he said before we hung up? "Astrid.. don´t be a stranger.." _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 22 18:05:24 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:05:24 Subject: Sinister: ooh sorry, i pressed enter by mistake! Message-ID: <149190903@spray.se> Sorry all of you, that wasn´t supposed to go out just yet. I was just about to say bye anyway, but I thought it would be weird if it just ended there, without saying farewell to my fellow sinisteree´s. And I admit of missing Corduroy Boy Tom really much! Well, I know I´ll get the postcard soon, he wrote that I will definitly get it soon.. Til then, luv, Astrid xxx ---------- a site made by a belle and sebastian fan, for belle and sebastian fans. http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling ---------- _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Wed Aug 22 22:44:14 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:44:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Life in a Southern Town Message-ID: Howdy all. It's so hot here. School started Monday, so it stopped raining. It's too humid. I was discussing with a friend today about how the city is divided mostly into anti-intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals. Indie rock doesn't fit anywhere in there. The only teenage sub-culture we've got are some goths and a mess of punks. Some even Christian. There's not much worse than a punk band screaming generic "anti-establishment" messages, but a punk band screaming generic "anti-establishment" messages with a "Trust in Christ" thrown in every now and again. No offense intended to Christians on this, it's just annoying. The Great Indie Debate of August 2001: I have no comments on this. I listen to mostly big label stuff anyway, and am not very indie. I'm listening to the Psychadelic Furs right now, so what does that make me? So this weekend I will find myself in Athens (that's Georgia, not Greece). I'll be at the 40 watt saturday night most likely, listening to some as-of-yet unknown bands and/or dancing to a DJ. What are the chances that one of you 1455 sinisters is going to be there that night? What are the chances that any of you go to U of G, or even live in Athens? Slim to none. I would say none, but if you're there, maybe you should say hi. I'll have a red shirt on. A sinister teaching little kids? The thought almost scares me. Then thinking about it again, it would be nice to brainwash a bunch of little kids into becoming b+s fans. They'd probably like it. My officemate told me that belle and sebastian (winter wooskie, to be precise) sounded like something from Sesame Street, so you never know... The person who voiced Garfield and Peter on the REAL Ghostbusters died a few weeks ago. Very sad. I was talking to someone via the internet last night, because i'm a lonely shut-in, and she said she was "absolutely shocked I am not a flaming homosexual." Apparently it's very difficult to find straight B+S fans. Obviously she's never heard of the (in)famous Ken Chu. Well, I mentioned B+S and Ken Chu. My work here is done. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 07:38:36 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:38:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Mining tedium for transcendence Message-ID: You know, I would never presume myself to be a sini-celebrity. To become one of those I think you have to post at least once a week, should be perhaps a bit wittier and certainly sillier than I generally am and I think it helps to have met at least a few sinisterinos in person. Failed on all counts. Nevertheless, I've been around for a little while and posted enough that those of you who are keeping close score at home probably recognized my name in your inbox. By now you're probably learning what to expect from me too, i.e.,I never post unless there is a discussion going on already. Today I am posting, which means (reactive poster that I am) I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON THE SUBJECT OF INDIE KIDS. By now the conversation has reached the depths of tiresomeness and someone has already written the moratorium plea (hey! that's my job!) but dammit!, I just don't get the chance to write as soon as I get the notion, having computer access only at work. So please bear with me. Of course you don't have to; you can snuff out my little message's life right now if you choose, but do you really want that on your conscience? Besides, this topic might just get interesting again. So, JF wrote: Look into the mirror andsay: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were you able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in his/her cd- collection? Well, the first part I don't have any problem with. Living as a cool spy in the square world for so long, I've had the opportunity to get to know a lot of them and even gain some affection for some of the poor buggers. Family and workmates come immediately to mind. But the answer to the other part, frankly, is a pretty emphatic no. As Nick Hornby and later John Cusack said, "It's not what you are like, but what you like." Another pop culture reference for this is Bridget Fonda in Singles when asked what she was looking for in a man said, "You know, someone with a good sense of humor, someone who likes the same things as me but not exactly. . ." It's important to share interests with your boo, and let's face it, a lot of us don't have many other interests. If I can get personal here for a moment I would say that that has to do with my general state of chicklessness. A (girl) friend of mine asked me recently, "You're a good looking guy; how come you never have a girlfriend." And I told her it's because hip chicks, which there are much fewer of, generally think I'm square and square chicks I don't dig. But I'm getting off point now. JF also wrote: Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that later) aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten and deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to understand that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really don't care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think about it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about those people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they? If I can play devil's advocate here for a moment, I would say that that attitude is really okay. Not against gays. I mean against "those people" that we feel so distinguished from. It's a matter of power. The difficult truth is that they own the world, they make the rules, and sometimes they have oppressed those of us who don't fit in or care to play by their rules. Just ask those two guys who shot up Columbine High School. It's because of this power structure that we can ridicule and discriminate against them with relative impunity (but we can't shoot them, don't misunderstand me here). It's like black comedians saying whatever the hell they want about white people. It's a grasp for power and self-esteem and a healthy venting of frustrations in a society that persistently ignores or lowers them. I would argue that it's a similar thing that goes on amongst indies, who constitute a legitimate cultural minority, albeit a generally socioeconomically priveliged (sic, never could spell that word) one. Not to compare our struggle with serious human and civil rights issues but I think you get my point. Side note related to our own particular obsession: this defensive attitude is pretty justified because B&S are one of the most mockable bands around. The Moz once sang, "It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate/ It takes strength to be gentle and kind." It's pretty easy to snicker at that line and at B&S because they have that strength that the ultimate fey pop star sang about. The very reasons we love them make them an easy target. B&S are wimps and wimps are easier to laugh at than identify with.They have the courage to be delicate and free of artifice and sing to the gentlest part of us. That's why Matt H. has so much trouble maintaining his hetero image as an uncloseted B&S fan. Real men are supposed to front. This is also why Jenowl has so much trouble with the hard kids. JF (nothing personal) continued to write and said: As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers and a B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. Some people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is like a secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image of yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they look on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off. The point was already made by someone that this is bullshit and *everyone* dresses to make themselves identifiable and (as, I believe, Chu said) hopefully attractive to like-minded folk. But on the issue of fashion I'd like to agree with some of those that have claimed that indies are among the most pretentious people around and here's why: our typical image tries desperately to say "I don't care about my appearance and I still look cooler than you." It's this claim to anti-fashion while still following trends and obeying the rules of our subculture that makes indie people so pretentious. . We all know how much effort goes into finding those vintage items or finding suitable outfits for work that don't compromise our coolness but we don't admit it, not to each other. If anyone asks, the official story is that you got that T.Rex tee from the concert in 1974 or your wool straight pocket slacks were a hand me down from your Grandpa. That sounds harsh but it's kinda true. Not that we actually lie but we are loathe to admit that we too participate in the very mainstream practice of image-enhancing consumption. If you really want to be anti-fashion then pull an Einstein and get a closetful of white button-down shirts and brown slacks with a couple of jackets and rotate. Pass? Yeah, I don't have those kind of balls either. Finally, JF offered some meditations: I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell well. Are you familiar with the recently en vogue theory of multiple intelligences? If I remember correctly there were six: verbal, quantitative, kinisthetic, musical, interpersonal and intrapersonal. We might not be better people overall but we're probably a little stronger in certain areas than others. I once heard someone say that music is the agnostic's connection to the spiritual. This rang true to me, a guy who plays guitar badly because he opted to never take lessons or learn even the most basic stuff about music theory so as not to have the mystery removed from it. For evidence of music's spiritual qualities you can just look at the language that surrounds it, e.g., you "have a song in your heart," good singers are "soulful," a particular piece might be described in terms like "moving", "transcendent", "uplifting". Rock stars are "gods." Musically talented people have been "blessed" with a gift, though some are reputed to have "sold their souls" to get it. History is littered with musical visionaries driven mad by the power for which they had become the conduit into our world. If this is true, that we experience our higher selves or a higher power through the music we choose to listen to, then what does that say about the spiritual state of the millions who listen to the stuff we find so empty? Do they really find something there that we don't, or is it that they are dead inside? Or have they found their gods in something else or dispensed with the need for them altogether? Someone recently told me that the word idiot comes from the Latin (or maybe Greek, I get confused) word for "self-deification". We may not be better than them, but then again we might, because they may be idiots. Whew! Was that me really throwing the pretentious word around earlier? Sorry, it's late now and I can get pretty full of shit when I'm tired. - rinaldo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 07:49:15 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:49:15 Subject: Sinister: Stand up and testify Message-ID: I've always thought that the most important listrule is that you should think before you send anything to the list. Not just think if anyone is interested, but THINK what you say. Being a man (quite short, but still a man), I must confess that my "indiefucks are shite"- post was a product of anguish, tiredness and general depression, a product of hopelessness towards some things gone badly wrong. Kind of a "I think I've been fucked up my arse when actually things just go that way sometimes but when it happens to you don't realize it"- trail of thought. Our beloved listmummy Honey has always said that this list shouldn't be a place for people to bitch about their problems. And Mummy knows best. So what I'm trying to say here is this: Sorry. I didn't think before I sent my rant. Now, let's not make this place a hellhole when Mummy is away, ok? Good. If I may, I'd like to comment on something Ken Chu said: >I always thought the whole point of the "indie-do" thing was to pull. Kenny man, you're right. And for some, it works. And on something Peter Carter said: >In answer to Miss JF's comments... Peter, if we should ever meet, don't try to get in bed with me. You might find my penis a bit of a turn off...=) I'd like to end my post with a story I wrote yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I called up too many people that night, although there was only two. I once I was one of those people who were hopeful. And I still am, but now I just understand more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ooh, minimalistic expression. Once again, my apologies to everyone. Now I'm going to get some more coffee. -JF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 09:36:46 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Case of the Run Away Thread Message-ID: <20010823083646.65171.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> From: "Gardiner, Stuart" "I think it's about this point where Honey would normally start warning people (not anyone in particular, naturally) to make sure their posts don't start turning into flames. I'm not quite sure what provoked all these anti-indie-snob diatribes, since I don't recall any such attitudes recently; but remember, those attitudes must exist with some people on a list this size, so let's not slag anyone off, OK? And anyway, we've discussed this many times before, as you could see in the archives if they existed at the moment ;-)" **************************************************** So there I was, sittin' in my office, readin' the newspaper, about how the evil Dr Chu had once again been caught doing sick experiments on young Sinisterians. The press called him the Virgin Surgeon, cos he'd take them fresh out of the Nursery and perform cruel experiements making them into his own little army of Chuians. I spy the silloette of a figure behind the frosted pane of glass on my door. This dame walks in. Ugly lookin' dame, but great legs. She came in, looking a little bit irritated. I can tell when a dame looks irritated. She sat down in the chair in front of my desk, with her handbag on her lap. "Please help me" she said. I looked over my desk at her. Her eyes were pleading with me. Beggin' me to help her. "My name, is Miss Gardiner" she said. "Nobody knows I'm here, but I had to do something." I go to the filing cabinet and take out a glass bottle and a glass. "Ribena?" I offer. She declines. Aparently too early in the day. I slouch back into my chair and flick my hat off my forehead. "So whats the story?" I ask. "Someone started a fight, in Honey's Bar" she says. "Hey listen doll, bar fights aren't my scene. I'm a Private invesitgator. You have things that need investigatin in private, I sneak around and do the work." I explain. "No, its not that. Its... its..." and she bursts into tears. I hate it when a dame bursts into tears. Makes her make up run, and look uglier. "I don't know how it began, but its getting out of hand." She explains. I offer her my sleeve to wipe her nose on. She looks at me, disgusted. Hey, works for me. "Someone, started going on about indie music. I don't know who, or why or what.. but now.. everyone is getting over excited about it. And you know what Honey's Bar is like... its usually so placid and peaceful." "..except when ya mention George Dubya Bush. Then the Americans get their knickers in a twist" I mumble, looking between the blinds of the window, rubbing my gunshot scar from the last time I had too many ribenas and started mouthing off. All I know was it had been a long day. "I just want it to stop. Its a stupid argument over nothing" says the dame. "Someone started saying how they dislike indie strawberry, and pretentiousness and stuff. And everyone else seemed to agree, but they agreed in argumentative tone, as if thats all they could agree on, but it wasn't in agreement with anyone". I look at the dame. I look her between the eyes. I can't help but wonder if she's been on the ribena already today. "Doesn't sound like much of an argument to me" I reply. "I just wish I knew how it started." She said, looking at my desk. It was covered in copies of newspaper clippings, and a signed photo of Stuart Murdoch, that said "Here's lookin' at you kid." "Please, Idle Berry, will you help us?" "I'll see what I can do." I said. I knew this meant only one thing. Looking through inboxes and archives.... ************************************ Now I invite someone from Sinister to take this story and carry it on. You can change the Private investigator to be yourself, change the time, or whatever. Go on. Would be a giggle. ta. Idles. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Thu Aug 23 09:43:41 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (u07lec at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:43:41 GB Subject: Sinister: Re: mining tedium for transcendence Message-ID: morning people, Sorry, I know I have already posted this week, but I just felt compelled to write following Rinaldo's post. It said everything I had wanted to say on the subject, but a tad more eloquently...! The part of the post that I am particularly in agreement with is : "I once heard someone say that music is the agnostic's connection to the spiritual." I seem to remember this being mentioned on the list not that long ago, and I was saying exactly this to somebody the other day. I was recommending that someone listen to some of the B&S tracks on the freeserve site, and as you do, I felt like I had to justify why I liked their music, and that of other bands I had recommended, beforehand, in case they didn't like it, and at least then they could understand why I like it. Some people have a sort of connection or commitment to a god, and that makes them happy, they have a faith in something that enhances their life and helps them out in some way when they need it. I've never had that, and never thought myself a spiritual person, but the more you see, the more you realise the parallels between your own relationship with music, and a religious peron's relationship with their god. And when you explain this to people, they understand why you listen to what you do....they may not personally enjoy it, but they still have more of an acceptance of it. On a related note, yesterday we were discussing where god and spirituality fit into the scientific world. As I'm studying geology, and have studied a lot of physics and other physical sciences, I find it really difficult to take the bible with anything other than a huge pile of salt. (I know it's not all meant to be 'literal', but there are some glaring ommisions from the 'facts' it presents). I know quite a lot of people who are studying geology, who are creationists, and I honestly can't see how they can have their beliefs, and still learn this subject, without completely ignoring the conflict in ideas that it presents to them. And isn't ignoring this conflict going directly against what we consider as scientific thought? But someone also said that science, especially physics (that's where our conversation started, but I suppose it applies equally to things like genetics, microbiology, etc), is becoming increasingly more complex, and as we learn more, and theorise more, we are automatically forced to have more faith in science and scientists. It gets to the stage where you have to believe some things are correct in order to arrive at something new...this means putting your faith in somebody else, their work, their results, and if you don't , you have to start all over again and do it all yourself. Which is pretty much impossible. What does everyone think of that? It's quite a lot of thought for this time of morning, I hope it's all written as I wanted it to be. On another note, Rinaldo, where can I read more about the "multiple intelligences" you mentioned??? I've never heard anything about it, and it sounds interesting. email me off-list if you can provide any information. And it's nice to see people apologising to each other to keep the peace. You're all lovely! lyns --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DISS Web Mail. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/mailman/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 11:52:39 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: 23 Aug 2001 06:52:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The case of the Runaway Thread - Part 2 Message-ID: <20010823105239.15396.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ol04 at xxx.uk Thu Aug 23 11:58:59 2001 From: ol04 at xxx.uk (the narrow wizard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:58:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the story continues Message-ID: this follows on from Idles (great) story so go back and read the first post if you haven't already I guess the dame's story got to me I mean even with those legs the ugly dame hadn't got to me, but the story had. I used to drink in Honey's bar a lot myself and I suppose that had something to do with it. It's not like I'm a sucker for a dame or anything. So I went down to Honey's, to tell you the truth i was running low on Ribenna in the office so I didn't mind going down to investigate so much as I might have. The owner wasn't there, away on holiday, I guess the fight wouldn't have been so bad and I wouldn't have had that dame round if Honey had been in town. Honey was like that, a good guy you could trust him, you couldn't get him with you in my line of work but you knew where you stood with him, a good guy. Anyway, I didn't recognise the barmaid, some dame by the name of Sadie, didn't seem to have too much personality but gave me a Ribenna and told me about Honey being away for a while. I was gonna ask about the fight but.. well to be honest this Sadie dame didn't have much personality so I figured I'd ask a few of the regulars I used to know when I was in here most days for my Ribenna fix. If you want to know the truth Sadie was giving me a right pain in the neck, it was like talking to my Aunt or something. So I asked round a little and some dame I'd not actually met before told me about the fight, dames are like that, buy them a Ribennea and look into their eyes in the right way and they'll give you what you want. I think this one was ready to give me more than I was looking for but you don't have time for that when you're on a case, still there's always time in between cases. Hey one of the reasons I used to frequent Honey's bar was 'cos the dames were always pretty classy in there, intelligent too, though those kinda dames can be just as much trouble as the others. Seems the story of the fight was that someone had been at the bar and was talking about those elitist 'indier than though kids' and well maybe it had put a few noses outta joint 'cos people weren't sure if he meant the folks in the bar or folks who didn't go there and anyway the regulars do have friends who don't come in so it got a bit heated. Well that's how it started and with just that dumb dame behind the bar instead of Honey well it got out of hand. I wasn't sure how I was gonna handle this situation, I had another Ribenna while I mulled it over... Okay so now it's somebody else's turn to take over the story have fun with it Owen with that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinammon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Thu Aug 23 12:16:29 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:16:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the story continues Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FFDAB9AD@GB047XS> sp. Ribena. I'm sorry, I didn't read the rest of the story. I'm sure it was good though. I can't believe you lot aren't absolutely SPAZZING outXor over the news that Jonathan Richman is *supporting* Belle & Sebastian in California. That's fantastic! J. Rich in California is the perfect location! What's the weather like in California? I would love to go. In San Fran I'd make a trip to We Be Sushi! And walk across the Golden Gate Bridge and pretend that I was in the Basic 8 and that my boyfriend was a BIG GAY. Actually, that doesn't sound so great but what the fcuk. I'll tell you who are another great band: THE GOSSIP. They've just been touring the UK as part of LADYFEST - even causing me to go to deepest darkest OxfoXor to go see them and get Really Rather Sweaty. Amazing onstage dynamics, enough passion and energy to keep our flat in electricity for the next seven years, fantastic blues howling from fat chiXoR riot grrl Beth and something which reminded me how GREAT live bands can be!! Perhaps I've just been seeing too many bands who Just Play and Just Sing - and I'm WRONG. More riot! There's a lot of shouting about the GURLS and the QUEERS and the REVOLUTION which is how it should BE at this point in time. Everything is right, down to the bare feet. I can't shut up about The Gossip. Although perhaps I should. They're on Kill Rock Stars rex. Love, S. x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brett6 at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 01:00:47 2001 From: brett6 at xxx.com (Brett Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:00:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Maybe I'm not Indie Enough References: Message-ID: <002001c12b66$ab8408a0$a47579d5@ainsdaleclose> Hmm... Reading all the "indie" controversy I thought I'd throw my own hat into the ring. I thought the original post was pretty cool, and certinaly pretty perceptive After all everyone (the InDiE hIPSter (tm) Mafia) knows that the genuine InDiE hIPSter (tm) 1) Loves everything about The Strokes 2) Would't be seen in anything that hadn't come straight out of their grandparents wardrobe 3) Buy acres of obscure vinyl 4) Hangs around pubs making a pint last all night 5) Makes a religion of slagging off the girl in the bar for her cookie monster backpack Oh well, I guess the rest of us indie types will just have to cope with the stigma of not even being alternatively cool how terrible!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "jarkko frantila" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Sinister: People who call themselves indie are shite > There, I've said it. There's been some talk about indie do's and dont's, and > I thought I'd contribute something to the list. > > All genres of music have their very own cliques. They think they are better > than other people. But lately I've started to think that indie hipsters are > maybe the worst of them all. Hand on your heart; Look into the mirror and > say: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were you > able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who > doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in > his/her cd- collection? > > Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that later) > aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some > hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten and > deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to understand > that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch > singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really don't > care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think about > it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about those > people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they? > > As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers and a > B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my > clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. Some > people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is like a > secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image of > yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they look > on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same > clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off. > > I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell well. > > I am not a better person because I wear these clothes. > > I am not better because I have this hair. > > I am not a better person than people who aren't a part of this list. > > -JF > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Thu Aug 23 15:31:29 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:31:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The case of the Runaway Thread - Part 3 Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F09@PIKACHU> Idles decided to start her search for evidence at the scene of the crime - Honey's Bar. She always felt uneasy going there; the smoky atmosphere choked her, and the picture of the head of a Saracen over the bar sent shivers down her spine. But she knew she would have to get over it, that dame had looked desperate. She approached the barman - a small, slimy man who just went by the name 'Miller'. She knew he was linked to the vicious Chu gang; he had just been let out of the gaol after a stint for his part in Chu's failed masterplan to poison the population by making them drink bull's blood. But she had enough dirt on him - he was a very dirty old man - to get what she wanted. "What d'ya know about the scmindie case?" she began. "I don't know nothing guv, I'm clean now. I tell you, I've cleaned up my act" "Come off it, you'll never change. You're still the same old smutball as ever. What happened?" "I ain't seen nothing, honest." It was clear this wasn't getting her anywhere. But Idles knew they had a good surveillance system at Honey's Bar, so she asked to look at the archives. But when she tried, her jaw dropped. Somebody had stolen all the archives! Now, Idles' suspicions were really rising. Then suddenly, a woman dressed in a long brown overcoat and a large hat walked into the bar. "You don't know me, but I might have some information for you." she whispered. "Come off it, that overcoat doesn't fool me, I'd recognise that arse anywhere." "OK, OK, just don't tell anyone, I don't want to get a reputation as a grass." "Fine, what can you tell me about the shmindie case?" "All I can say is, there's been someone round here recently telling the world that he's a fan of The Go-Betweens. And I've heard he's about to go on the run to Rio, so you'd better hurry up" Clearly time was running out. She had to think fast. She had to act fast. She had to get a new narrator who wouldn't waste time rambling on about nothing in particular. Then, just as she was about to head back to her office, a suspicious looking man walked into the bar. "Of all the bars, in all the world, you had to walk into this one..." To be continued... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 15:41:44 2001 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:41:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: Maybe I'm not Indie Enough Message-ID: >After all everyone (the InDiE hIPSter (tm) Mafia) knows that the genuine >InDiE hIPSter (tm) >1) Loves everything about The Strokes - i really dislike the strokes >2) Would't be seen in anything that hadn't come straight out of their >grandparents wardrobe - i only buy new clothes >3) Buy acres of obscure vinyl - i buy mostly cds >4) Hangs around pubs making a pint last all night - rarely drink beer, gives me headaches >5) Makes a religion of slagging off the girl in the bar for her cookie >monster backpack - slagging? i miss about on every dot, and still i'm indie... beat that..! no wait, i really dislike the indie people, it's just a bunch of stuck up kids who listen to music just because it's cool and collect rare vinyl records without listening to them, who should call themselves indie... defines a kid who goes to a concert wearing a homemade t-shirt that says josef k, just to show the people he listens to a band that rarely no one does. i'm not indie, i just like music. i shiver johan ps: right now my favorite record is paul and linda mccartney's ram, how indie is that? about 7/10 on the official indie rating system. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 17:00:53 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:00:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Aretha Franklin said it best Message-ID: Hullo Sinister children, So, is it in any way possible for the list to go on for a week without some MAJOR bloody disturbence that gets everyone's knickers in a twist? I guess not, eh? For the record, I like to give poor Lauren a vote of full public support for her indie rantings post, not so much because I fully agree with her (and I do agree a great deal with her) but because I've read enough slagging of the 'masses' and the 'hard kids' and the 'townies' to be well pleased when someone gives the pretentious few a good, hard slgagging. Oh, and what's the problem with hippies, I've seen them given a bit of a slagging as well, I like hippies. Pretty girls, good music, and a nice philosophy. All anyone wants is a bit of respect, and I don't care if you're agnostic or atheist (like me) or buddist or whatnot, if you honestly think the music one listens to is an indicator of the type of person they are, you are in desperate need of a fucking life. If anyone actually belives that; "It is not what you are like, it's what you like" you are a pretentious twat. High Fidelity was a good book, and a good movie, but I'm not basing my world view on what Nick Hornby thinks, thanks. Besides the fact that I thought the whole thing was a pisstake and a fairly accurate slagging of music snobs. Oh, woe is me, the hard kids made fun of me, people don't bloody understand me, the masses listen to shit music, 'those people' control the world...what absolute crap. I've taken plenty of shit from people on a wide range of subjects, but you know what, the 'indie' movement is not a disenfranchised minority, any attempt to compare them to the civil rights movements of blacks or gays is downright insulting. The masses? You take their individuality away everytime you refer to them in that sense. Yes, they are individuals, believe it or not. You learn these things when you take the time to give a damn about people instead of your own world view. People use indie style to get girls? I don't think I have a style, or if I did, it most likely be a pretty square style. Funny, I've gone out with and been friends with girls from all across the spectrum, indie girls, punk girls, abercrombie girls. You know what? They were all sweet, vibrante, lovely young ladies, regardless of what music they listened to or what clothes they wear. I don't really think I'd like a person, girl or otherwise, to whom clothes or music were the deciding factor in whether they talked to me/liked me, etc. I'd probably think they were very shallow. Not that people shouldn't have things in common, but there's a lot of things besides music and clothes to have in common. Look, it's just about respect, and I don't respect any of you on your choice of music. I don't respect you based upon the clothes you wear. I respect people on the choices they make and why they make them. When a person comes up to me they are a cipher until they open their mouth, then they earn or lose my respect. I think what annoys some of us, is that the idea of indie, just like the idea of 'alternative' was that the scenes were supposed to be free of all that crap. It wasn't supposed to be about what you wear or the exact music you listen too, it was supposed to be about breaking molds, not forming new ones. You're all wonderful, intelligent individuals. Bright, sometimes warm, sometimes funny, and mostly very nice people. Don't let your own insecurities cut you off from the world, because you are no different, no better, no more or less pretentious or worthy than anyone else. My sig quote at the bottom pretty much sums up my feelings on the whole mess. There's a big, wonderful, multiplex world out there that we can all live in. All it takes is being respectful and smiling a bit. A smile and a bit of respect will take you farther than you would have thought possible. Personally, I think we need a new topic to get in a huff about. I present; "Ribena is over-priced Kool-aid and tastes like piss". You may commence posting your rightious indignation to my slander of Ribena. Be happy people, go out and play in the sunshine with pretty boys and rude girls. Jim "I haven't feel geeky or dumb since I was 17. I don't feel marginalised or outmoded and neither should anyone else in this thriving, multiplex society. When will successful, creative, intelligent people stop thinking of themselves as childlike outsiders and start engaging with the real high-stakes world? Wake up fanboy, wake up fangirl. Don't you want to rule the world?" - Grant Morrison _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 17:56:12 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:56:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Get me away from here I'm frying/ back by popular demand Message-ID: Hello sinister lovelies! Got in from Islamabad yesterday morning. Jesus, the place was sweltering. And this coming from someone who comes from a sweltering place herself makes it double sweltering. Managed to fry myself by the pool for three whole hours, after that it just became unbearable. I'm so happy to be back in Sinister, having been unfaithful for 48 hours. The bogus Tony Doogan episode pissed me off that much, although I did consider embracing my mugness and carrying on with the game of pretend just to see where it would lead. I'm such a curious creature, it really is my downfall at times. A couple of very sweet emails from Ken Walton and Sam Chu made me immediately want to resubscribe and I'm so glad I did. I L!O!V!E! Sinister! How can anybody leave and not want to come back? I confess to having been fed up at the time of the east x west debate (I think it was the reason for the mass exodus), but persevering has been extremely rewarding. So, what marvels of Pakistani culture did I enjoy (other than the mandatory curries), you may ask. Actually, the highlight of my trip was meeting Angelina Jolie in the flesh. That's right, THE Angelina Jolie. She was sitting in first class on the flight out, in seat 4K. You could spot those blow job lips from miles away. Apparently, she was out there for some United Nations meeting or other - she's one of those Geri Halliwell style goodwill ambassadors. I kept going past to try and sneak what I hoped was a discreet look, but she never looked up. She's a lot smaller and younger looking than you'd imagine, and her looks are much more girl next door than sex siren (honest!). I wanted to ask "so, Angie is it true about you and Belle & Sebastian?" but somehow thought it best not to... She went to sleep eventually and though it was dark I managed to get a better look. Her skin was so smooth and flawless she looked almost waxen. She lay motionless for hours, her famous lips ever so slightly parted, looking...well, kinda dead, really. Which might have been cool because I would immediately have put my first aid skills into action and given her the kiss of life. Because let's face it, the woman is highly kissable. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not massively into chicks or anything but I would't kick her out of bed either. After she left two of the male crew members smelled the headrest of her seat and, call me sad, but I did too. I've loved the woman since that crap "Pushing Tin" movie. The headrest had a lovely, delicate scent on it. I got teased mercilessly and accused of being a dyke, which I didn't contest simply because it didn't bother me. Can't a woman find another woman attractive without immediately being labelled as such? I later found out she was staying at the same hotel as us. I never saw her again. I spent most of my time there wishing I was back at home. Wishing I could fast forward the next month so I can start my Masters immediately because I'm so looking forward to it and to quitting my job as well. And wishing at the same time that summer would never end. Because when it does, I will, as always, retreat into my shell again and only emerge from it next year. I had my first official B&S dream the other night. I say official because B&S were in it as opposed to just a background soundtrack. I was looking at a huge house in Camden Town my ex-husband wanted us to buy (though why I would want to buy a house with him is beyond me). As I was coming out of the house I passed a venue called "The Druids" where B&S were about to start playing. Of course it was sold out, but people were handing out green and yellow tickets and I managed to get hold of one only to discover it was for a Pinocchio pantomime! I somehow got in and the place turned out to be half empty and so tiny I could talk to the band from where I was sitting. I talked to Struan loads and it was the best gig ever! Changing the subject entirely, have any contingency plans been made for red pant picnic day? You are all aware it's supposed to rain on Saturday, aren't you? And we all know that strawberries and cream don't go brilliantly with rain. On the whole indie debate thing, my view is that by respecting other people's choices hopefully they'll learn to respect yours. I would really hate it if anyone judged me because I don't own vintage clothing or obscure records or whatever it is that makes someone indie. Then again I wouldn't want anything to do with someone that shallow anyway. I've got this posting thing down to a fine art now. The secret is to leave the address out till last so that you don't hit send by mistake and end up clogging up people's inboxes with meaningless half baked shit. You just clog up their inboxes with meaningless fully baked shit instead! Sorry it's been such a mish mash. See you on Saturday! Love, Pris. P.S. I've just read Jim Gilmer's last posting and I couldn't agree more. Well done, Jim, beautifully written! I've always liked your stuff. And thank you for the excellent quote at the end once again. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk Thu Aug 23 18:26:02 2001 From: Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk (Marc Bloomfield) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:26:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ranting maketh fools of us all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello! It's all turned to ranting again, and whenever anyone does so, they do seem to end up coming across as exactly the sort of person they're slagging off. Which somewhat defeats the point of it really. So I'm not going to do any of that. I'm quite capable of shooting myself in the foot as it is, without giving myself extra ammunition. I still haven't heard The Strokes. Or The White Stripes. I don't know if I want to. I'm still worried they'll be a big pile of cack. If they've been compared to so many good bands, they can surely only be second-rate rehashes. Maybe I'm wrong. It'd be nice to be proven wrong about it. There's nothing really that's tickling my fancy at the moment. The last album I bought was by Clouddead. The sticker on the sleeve said it was like Cypress Hill doing Kid A. It sounded interesting to me, so I bought it. It's great. Sounds a bit more like Mercury Rev would if they did hip hop, but the general weirdness is lovely. The new Spiritualized single comes out next week! And I've been waiting for that for ages! But my boss told me it sounded like a ropey Primal Scream song. I don't know if I believe him or not though. For me, they (ie Spiritualized) can still do no wrong. And the new New Order album's coming out too. Another one I've been waiting for ages for. I hope it's not rubbish. I'll be right disappointed if it is. One day The Smiths will reform and make a new album. It will happen. It will. It will. Okay, it won't, but I wish it would. I'm reading Brideshead Revisited at the moment. I'd really recommend Evelyn Waugh. Vile Bodies is particularly good. Never have the bright young things of the early 20th century been so wonderfully mocked. I like an author to be cruel to his characters in the name of comedy. It just doesn't seem real enough if they all live happily ever after. Maybe I'm just too cynical though. People always say cynicism is a bad thing, and I agree, it can make you unhappy. But I think, with the way things are, it's the most sensible option. Then, if you're wrong, it's a nice surprise! And if you're right you can get some warped satisfaction of being able to spot someone horrible a mile off... I'm really seriously thinking of going back to university to study a master's degree. In medieval culture. I know everyone thinks 'oh my god, you fool, what's the point in that?', but I think it's interesting. I just have to find enough money to fund a course. Out of curiosity, is there anyone from the UK on this list who's made this, perhaps unwise, step? I'd really like to know if it's worth it. If you have, please could you e-mail me off list. I hate London. It's smelly and grey and expensive and unfriendly. Doh. Picnic thing on Saturday. I'm tempted. But I have no one to go with, so I can't cower in the corner like I usually do. And I don't have red pants. But unless someone tries to sneak a peek (which, let's face it, is unlikely), I think I might manage to fib my way out of it. Talking of fibs, I watched a trashy programme last night about the real-life weakest links. There was one story of such genius. In, I think, South Africa, there's this massive race, about 56 miles! Anyway, this guy tried to cheat it in such a wonderful way, I think he should've got a medal for it. He ran a certain distance, then hopped in a portaloo on the way, swapped clothes and everything with his brother, then his brother ran a bit, then they did the swapping thing again and he finished the race. This was in order to win the prize money. Despite cheating they only managed 9th, and only got found out because they forgot to swap watches. I know it's not very sporting, but they were doing it to get some money to support their family, and it was a cracking scam. Apparently, someone else tried to cheat by getting a taxi for most of the way. They came fifteenth! What's the point in that? And how did someone manage to cheat in a 56-mile running race by getting a cab, and not win?! Some people... Well, I'm off to be neither indie nor not-indie, but instead to go home and relax and read a book (Briedeshead Revisited - remember, read Evelyn Waugh, except Scoop, which starts fine and then descends into horrid racist pap - I didn't finish that one). Reading is the new rock and roll. Well it is when you can't afford to be properly rock and roll. So, anyone, see you on Saturday? I can't even remember where the picnic's supposed to be. Please could someone tell me. I'm in London, so, glad though I am that there may well be picnics happening everywhere, I'd be grateful if I could have the details about the London one. Marc. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 18:50:26 2001 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:50:26 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Reaching for the stars (and gig-goer-friends) Message-ID: <00cf01c12bfc$334f42f0$49da40d5@alex> Hi, So guess what I've heard. I've heard that Belle & Sebastian may be starting their European tour in Lund in Sweden on the 24th of September. I can not confirm it and it may well be just a rumour but if it's not, then I for one would be thrilled. Anyway, I've just started studying at the University of Stockholm (in four years time I hope to be a fully fledged astronomer, how about that?) and I thought I'd take the opportunity to ask if there's anybody else on Sinister who's studying there. Or if there is someone else living in Stockholm that maybe sometime would like some company to indie gigs (or things like that) in the city. If there is don't hesitate to mail me. ///Alexander +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 18:56:04 2001 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:56:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S Flyers/Posters for Trade Message-ID: <9d.1a48a359.28b69db4@aol.com> Hi listees, I made some flyers for the Belle and Sebastian show in Olympia Washington. They have a drawing of the apartment building next to mine and are handpainted in watercolor. I will send you one for an appropriate small gift/letter/photo/drawing etc. If you want the flyer mailed flat please e-mail me so we can make arrangements. Courtney B 120 State Ave NE PMB #1206 Olympia WA 98501 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 19:04:42 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:04:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sleep the clock around.......at work! Message-ID: <3B8545BA.A0E3C6AC@netopia.com> At work in the "Silly-Con" Valley. What a nice day, (some would call it "earthquake weather"). For those in the east coast and parts of the world, that may be something you're not envious of the east coast about. The countdown is underway and the excitement for the show just builds. Never read anything on a San Fran picnic!? But I am new to the list. I just bought tickets for the Bjork show in Oakland and cannot wait. I hear that she has a few surprises up her sleeve! This is a great year for music and tours, already I have seen: Travis, Air, Moby, Rufus Wainwright w/ Roxy Music, Nelly Furtado (and going to see B & S, Madonna and Bjork). 2001 is so far so good! Anyone hear anything on "Storytelling" or the soundtrack release? Hope that it hasn't been pushed back. I read in Entertainment Weekly magazine that the movie will contain scenes that will be censored with black bars, as the director didn't want to simply cut the scene. Brilliant! I hear more and more great things about this movie, maybe not the one about James "Dawson" Vanderbeek and his gay kissing scene (which was cut). Oh well enough ranting...........must go back to work! Keith----------------> :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 20:15:48 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:15:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Message-ID: Sorry, but this isn't an on-topic post, a detective post, or a light, uplifting post. Sinisterians who only read posts with that sort of thing in should skip to the last paragraph, which has Ken in it. Instead, you have a rambly, train-of-thought post for your pleasure and delight. My little flat is on a council estate in the middle of the city, but despite that it's overlooked by a line of beautiful sandstone cliffs, a few hundred yards away. When I look through my living room window, I can see a small stretch of cliff in the gap between my neighbours' houses. Every morning when I get up and let the cat out into the garden for a while, I look up at the cliffs and see what colour they are, because they look different with every change in light. Some days, when I have nothing less important to do, I go for a walk along the top of the cliffs. I sit down at the edge and look out over the city. I watch the city sleep in the sunlight, and look out for all the places I know: the flats I've lived in, the buildings I've worked in, the places I've been. I look out over the river to see if I can identify all the towns on the opposite bank, and name all the islands in between. One morning last week, I got out of bed in the morning to let the cat into the garden, and I looked up at the cliffs. I could see people in green coats walking about purposefully at the top and bottom of them, and a Royal Parks Police van stood by at the bottom. I knew, immediately, what they were doing. The cliffs that overlook my home are one of the most popular places in the city, for people -- mostly students -- who have decided that they want to die. The policemen in the bright green jackets were collecting the parts of someone's broken body off the ground and taking it to the infirmary morgue. It made me sit and wonder, not "why would anyone want to kill themselves", but "how could anyone be brave enough to kill themself?" I'm not a very brave person, and there are many things that I wish I was brave enough to do. However, I'm glad that I'm not a brave person, because I clearly remember one afternoon, when I was at university, sitting crunched up with my hands round me knees on a beach in the far north-west of the country. I was sat at the head of a broad loch filled with islands, and in the distance I could see the narrows leading out into the Atlantic. I knew that beyond those lighthouses, there was no land until Canada. I didn't want to be there, I didn't want to do what I was doing, and I knew that everything would be better if I were to walk into the water, start swimming to the horizon and just keep on going. Nobody knows, incidentally, whether the man at the bottom of the cliff killed himself or not. His body was found at 8am, he had no ID, and his head was smashed open too badly to be identified. The rocks round about were covered in blood. Someone said recently that as this list has 1450 people on it, it's bound to have *someone* who supports any particular viewpoint. I want to say to all of you, therefore, who want to destroy yourselves: I hope you can rejoin the world of the living. Whether you are refusing to eat, whether you are gorging yourself on the entire contents of your local patisserie and vomiting it into the drains, or whether you are just trying to think of the easiest way to die. The life you have already isn't wonderful, but some moments of it can be. Go to the cliffs from below, and watch their colour change in the light. We might never recover from wanting to shut our bodies down, but we can at least put it to the back of our minds for as long as we can. I said earlier: I'm not as brave as I wish I was. I tried to do things about this when I was younger, but I'm still not *quite* as brave as I need to be. Back in the mists of teenage time when I was still religious, I tried to get into public speaking by reading the Bible out in church. Although I was by far the youngest of the lay readers, I was the only one who you could hear right at the back. I would stand at the front, at the lectern in front of all the rapt worshippers, and would boom out: "The lesson today is from the twenty-second chapter of the book of Deuteronomy, starting at the fifth verse." About that time, though, I started to feel guilty because I suspected it was wrong; then I realised that it's not something I should feel guilty about and I'm not going to hell whatever my lessons say. I guess that makes me braver in one way, even if it wasn't my intention. I still kept up the church readings even though I didn't believe in it, until I left home. It was good fun. The old ladies in the congregation all thought I would become a bishop some day. Maybe I should go back home and give them a shock. Um, I think I had a point when I started writing this. It was something like "don't all argue about how what clothes you wear affects *you* as an individual" That comes up every few months on the list, after all. I think I was trying to say that there are far more important things to bother about, like being nice to people just to show them that the world is a nice place. Don't be blinkered, don't wrap yourself in cliques, that sort of thing. Also, don't wear stuff just cos you want to be part of a scene. Just wear what you want to, if you're brave enough. And be as supportive as you can to all the people who aren't brave enough to walk outside dressed to match their inner selves. People always start leaving lists when you get horrible nasty arguments. I'm thinking of leaving Sinister---or at least, being more of a lurker---but it's not because of any of that. It's just because it's time I stopped posting neverending posts like this one whenever I think I'm starting to feel "deep". I might come back again before long, possibly in disguise, possibly in less of a disguise. Oh, don't *just* dress the way you want. Dress in a way that will get you into Chu's pants, of course! I'm sure every Sinister girl wants to do that; well, apart from me maybe. xx -- http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Zschwa23 at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 23:11:06 2001 From: Zschwa23 at xxx.com (Zschwa23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:11:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S pre-parties Message-ID: <61.127b1f78.28b6d97c@aol.com> Haven't posted in two years, nor have I had much time to read many recent posts. I'm coming all the way from Miami specifically for SF and Portland shows. I'm sure this has been covered, but I'm curious if there are any pre-show gatherings planned -- especially in Portland, seeing as I'll be there solo. Also, if anyone has some recs on a cool B&B in Portland, I'd be forever indebted. Special place in my heart if you know of mad bars / choice record stores. Anyone from Miami going to the shows?? Please respond to sender... cheers, S +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Aug 24 00:21:01 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:21:01 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?who_can_blame_her_if_she=B4s_sleepy=3F?= Message-ID: <149804498@spray.se> Helluu sweeties! Today has been the best day in school since we started (er, monday), because we had "social day". First, we were going ot discuss masculinity and femininity with our classes, which was terrible. I seem to be the only one with opinions, but some of the boys are determined to BUG me, just because they know i get all furious and angry. Today I didn´t feel like it, so I, for once, was quiet. I know they don´t think that, REALLY. They just play pigs to annoy me. But in a friendly, sort of way. After we had lunch we went into the assembly hall, we were about 100 15-year-olds. We were going to get teached a bit of dancing! It was great, because it was like a big circle which was rotating, so you danced with almost every boy. But htat was just for learning the steps. The really fun part was shen the danceteacher thought that we were reafy to dance for real. the the girls would stand on one side of the hall, and the boys on the other, and if he said lady´s dance, the girls asked the boys to dance, and vice versa. I was SO worried of not being asked to dance, but I was, by a sweet boy in my mathsgroup, Oscar. One time, I danced with my friend Moa just to practise the steps with her. The first time the girls hade to ask the boys, I asked a boy named Alex, who I´ve been in the same class in since I was in kindergarden! But he was so boring, he just looked at his feet (he is a terrible dancer, but very sweet) so we didn´t have any eye contact. After the song was over, the person who had asked to dance would escort the other person to his or hers side of the hall and thank him/her for the dance. Next time, when we were doing a quite wild dance that I hadn´t got hold of quite yet, I asked a boy in my class, Martin, who I´ve been flirting with since a year back. So I went up and said, - Martin, do you think you could stand to dance with me (In that circlesystem, I had danced with him quite a bit and I was terrible at that dance) - OF COURSE sweetie he said, and then he put his arm around my shoulder and we walked out on the dance floor. I felt like I was a princess in his care! He was so great, and he really tought me how to do that dance and then we had such a good flow the rest of the tune we were dancing too. Oh, I could dance all night like I´m a soul girl! Martin is the type of boy who has those eyes that feels like they can see through anything. Very intense and blue. Hee hee hee. It was SO lovely! Something more Belle and Sebastianisch: For quite some time, I´ve noticed a really weird thing I do. Everytime I put on this is just a modern rocksong, and Struan sings "She stuck her finger in the air", I sing "She stuck her finger in her throat"! It´s not like I want to sing of Emma as she´s a bulimic girl! I want her to stuck her finger in the air, not her throat, but It´s just something stuck in my brain. Really strange, huh? To survive my days in school I have put up LOADS of pictures of Struan, because I feel that I CAN survive just when I look at these pictures. My friends think I´m being strange, but really, it helps. I´ve had several dreams about Belle and Sebastian. Once in a dream, they were the opening act for a terrible children´s artist in Sweden called Markoolio (!) and they were playing at an underground station in stockholm. It was really cool, because it was just me and this guy in my school, Ivar, who knew, and we stood there smiling at each other whilst all the other people just passed by. I also dreamt that Belle and Sebastian were playing here in Stockholm, but it was day, so there wasn´t any people there. I try to jump up on the stage, and THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is when I´m realizing I´m wearing a WEDDING DRESS! Then, suddenly, I am talking ot Struan, and I can just see his face, and it´s like in a frame of pastel colours, pink and very light blue-green. It was a dead good dream. Have anyone seen the group American Hi-Fi´s video Flavour of the week? That singer looks EXACTLY like one of the Hanson brothers! It´s really strange. Maybe they were twins separated at birth or something. Is anyone except moi into Muse? I love them, they´re my second favourite band, B&S are my absolute favorite. Anyway, they made a perfect gig in Stockholm, I was standing at the front, right in fron of Matt Bellamy (mmmm) and I got to play onhis guitar during the concert, and I got this waterglass after the concert. It was a fantastic concert. Matt is my favourite guitarplayer (Sorry Stevie and Stu, but you ARE in my favourite band anyway!) I think, because he does so much weird stuff to it, and it still sounds great. I should go to bed now, I am really sleepy and I have school tomorrow. Let´s go back to those french verbs then, shall we? *sighs* Parler, parlant, parlé, je parle.. Oh sod it, I´m just too tired! Loads of love to you all! Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 23:49:10 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:49:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Message-ID: Thank you, Will. When I wrote that - what I feel is at this point - infamous post last night, I didn't really mean much of it. I even said at the bottom that I was full of shit. I was just musing on the subject because I thought it was an interesting one. Some things to think about. I wasn't trying to defend snobbery so much as understand its origins and the benefits it offers, why it persists. There were certainly some real opinions in there, that I would still stand by, but there was also a lot of argument for its own sake. When Jim tore me a new arsehole this morning I felt misunderstood. Of course I wasn't comparing indie kids' marginalization with civil rights, I even said as much. And the bit about the *other* people being dead inside was really just hyperbole. Obvious misunderstandings aside, his words stung a bit because I saw myself reflected through his post as a pretty terrible person. Never mind how I saw him. But your simple story of perspective gained through tragedy made me feel small and petty and stupid in the best way. There ARE more important things to bother about.To cast the old saying, I was the darkness, Jim was the cursing and you were the candle. Thanks, Will. -rinaldo To the rest of sinister: In case you missed Will's post I recommend it highly. It follows below. . .. ... .... ..... ...... ..... .... ... .. . Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:15:48 +0100 (BST) Sorry, but this isn't an on-topic post, a detective post, or a light, uplifting post. Sinisterians who only read posts with that sort of thing in should skip to the last paragraph, which has Ken in it. Instead, you have a rambly, train-of-thought post for your pleasure and delight. My little flat is on a council estate in the middle of the city, but despite that it's overlooked by a line of beautiful sandstone cliffs, a few hundred yards away. When I look through my living room window, I can see a small stretch of cliff in the gap between my neighbours' houses. Every morning when I get up and let the cat out into the garden for a while, I look up at the cliffs and see what colour they are, because they look different with every change in light. Some days, when I have nothing less important to do, I go for a walk along the top of the cliffs. I sit down at the edge and look out over the city. I watch the city sleep in the sunlight, and look out for all the places I know: the flats I've lived in, the buildings I've worked in, the places I've been. I look out over the river to see if I can identify all the towns on the opposite bank, and name all the islands in between. One morning last week, I got out of bed in the morning to let the cat into the garden, and I looked up at the cliffs. I could see people in green coats walking about purposefully at the top and bottom of them, and a Royal Parks Police van stood by at the bottom. I knew, immediately, what they were doing. The cliffs that overlook my home are one of the most popular places in the city, for people -- mostly students -- who have decided that they want to die. The policemen in the bright green jackets were collecting the parts of someone's broken body off the ground and taking it to the infirmary morgue. It made me sit and wonder, not "why would anyone want to kill themselves", but "how could anyone be brave enough to kill themself?" I'm not a very brave person, and there are many things that I wish I was brave enough to do. However, I'm glad that I'm not a brave person, because I clearly remember one afternoon, when I was at university, sitting crunched up with my hands round me knees on a beach in the far north-west of the country. I was sat at the head of a broad loch filled with islands, and in the distance I could see the narrows leading out into the Atlantic. I knew that beyond those lighthouses, there was no land until Canada. I didn't want to be there, I didn't want to do what I was doing, and I knew that everything would be better if I were to walk into the water, start swimming to the horizon and just keep on going. Nobody knows, incidentally, whether the man at the bottom of the cliff killed himself or not. His body was found at 8am, he had no ID, and his head was smashed open too badly to be identified. The rocks round about were covered in blood. Someone said recently that as this list has 1450 people on it, it's bound to have *someone* who supports any particular viewpoint. I want to say to all of you, therefore, who want to destroy yourselves: I hope you can rejoin the world of the living. Whether you are refusing to eat, whether you are gorging yourself on the entire contents of your local patisserie and vomiting it into the drains, or whether you are just trying to think of the easiest way to die. The life you have already isn't wonderful, but some moments of it can be. Go to the cliffs from below, and watch their colour change in the light. We might never recover from wanting to shut our bodies down, but we can at least put it to the back of our minds for as long as we can. I said earlier: I'm not as brave as I wish I was. I tried to do things about this when I was younger, but I'm still not *quite* as brave as I need to be. Back in the mists of teenage time when I was still religious, I tried to get into public speaking by reading the Bible out in church. Although I was by far the youngest of the lay readers, I was the only one who you could hear right at the back. I would stand at the front, at the lectern in front of all the rapt worshippers, and would boom out: "The lesson today is from the twenty-second chapter of the book of Deuteronomy, starting at the fifth verse." About that time, though, I started to feel guilty because I suspected it was wrong; then I realised that it's not something I should feel guilty about and I'm not going to hell whatever my lessons say. I guess that makes me braver in one way, even if it wasn't my intention. I still kept up the church readings even though I didn't believe in it, until I left home. It was good fun. The old ladies in the congregation all thought I would become a bishop some day. Maybe I should go back home and give them a shock. Um, I think I had a point when I started writing this. It was something like "don't all argue about how what clothes you wear affects *you* as an individual" That comes up every few months on the list, after all. I think I was trying to say that there are far more important things to bother about, like being nice to people just to show them that the world is a nice place. Don't be blinkered, don't wrap yourself in cliques, that sort of thing. Also, don't wear stuff just cos you want to be part of a scene. Just wear what you want to, if you're brave enough. And be as supportive as you can to all the people who aren't brave enough to walk outside dressed to match their inner selves. People always start leaving lists when you get horrible nasty arguments. I'm thinking of leaving Sinister---or at least, being more of a lurker---but it's not because of any of that. It's just because it's time I stopped posting neverending posts like this one whenever I think I'm starting to feel "deep". I might come back again before long, possibly in disguise, possibly in less of a disguise. Oh, don't *just* dress the way you want. Dress in a way that will get you into Chu's pants, of course! I'm sure every Sinister girl wants to do that; well, apart from me maybe. xx -- http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Thu Aug 23 23:52:16 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:52:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Message-ID: Thank you, Will. When I wrote that - what I feel is at this point - infamous post last night, I didn't really mean much of it. I even said at the bottom that I was full of shit. I was just musing on the subject because I thought it was an interesting one. Some things to think about. I wasn't trying to defend snobbery so much as understand its origins and the benefits it offers, why it persists. There were certainly some real opinions in there, that I would still stand by, but there was also a lot of argument for its own sake. When Jim tore me a new arsehole this morning I felt misunderstood. Of course I wasn't comparing indie kids' marginalization with civil rights, I even said as much. And the bit about the *other* people being dead inside was really just hyperbole. Obvious misunderstandings aside, his words stung a bit because I saw myself reflected through his post as a pretty terrible person. Never mind how I saw him. But your simple story of perspective gained through tragedy made me feel small and petty and stupid in the best way. There ARE more important things to bother about.To cast the old saying, I was the darkness, Jim was the cursing and you were the candle. Thanks, Will. -rinaldo To the rest of sinister: In case you missed Will's post I recommend it highly. It follows below. . .. ... .... ..... ...... ..... .... ... .. . Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:15:48 +0100 (BST) Sorry, but this isn't an on-topic post, a detective post, or a light, uplifting post. Sinisterians who only read posts with that sort of thing in should skip to the last paragraph, which has Ken in it. Instead, you have a rambly, train-of-thought post for your pleasure and delight. My little flat is on a council estate in the middle of the city, but despite that it's overlooked by a line of beautiful sandstone cliffs, a few hundred yards away. When I look through my living room window, I can see a small stretch of cliff in the gap between my neighbours' houses. Every morning when I get up and let the cat out into the garden for a while, I look up at the cliffs and see what colour they are, because they look different with every change in light. Some days, when I have nothing less important to do, I go for a walk along the top of the cliffs. I sit down at the edge and look out over the city. I watch the city sleep in the sunlight, and look out for all the places I know: the flats I've lived in, the buildings I've worked in, the places I've been. I look out over the river to see if I can identify all the towns on the opposite bank, and name all the islands in between. One morning last week, I got out of bed in the morning to let the cat into the garden, and I looked up at the cliffs. I could see people in green coats walking about purposefully at the top and bottom of them, and a Royal Parks Police van stood by at the bottom. I knew, immediately, what they were doing. The cliffs that overlook my home are one of the most popular places in the city, for people -- mostly students -- who have decided that they want to die. The policemen in the bright green jackets were collecting the parts of someone's broken body off the ground and taking it to the infirmary morgue. It made me sit and wonder, not "why would anyone want to kill themselves", but "how could anyone be brave enough to kill themself?" I'm not a very brave person, and there are many things that I wish I was brave enough to do. However, I'm glad that I'm not a brave person, because I clearly remember one afternoon, when I was at university, sitting crunched up with my hands round me knees on a beach in the far north-west of the country. I was sat at the head of a broad loch filled with islands, and in the distance I could see the narrows leading out into the Atlantic. I knew that beyond those lighthouses, there was no land until Canada. I didn't want to be there, I didn't want to do what I was doing, and I knew that everything would be better if I were to walk into the water, start swimming to the horizon and just keep on going. Nobody knows, incidentally, whether the man at the bottom of the cliff killed himself or not. His body was found at 8am, he had no ID, and his head was smashed open too badly to be identified. The rocks round about were covered in blood. Someone said recently that as this list has 1450 people on it, it's bound to have *someone* who supports any particular viewpoint. I want to say to all of you, therefore, who want to destroy yourselves: I hope you can rejoin the world of the living. Whether you are refusing to eat, whether you are gorging yourself on the entire contents of your local patisserie and vomiting it into the drains, or whether you are just trying to think of the easiest way to die. The life you have already isn't wonderful, but some moments of it can be. Go to the cliffs from below, and watch their colour change in the light. We might never recover from wanting to shut our bodies down, but we can at least put it to the back of our minds for as long as we can. I said earlier: I'm not as brave as I wish I was. I tried to do things about this when I was younger, but I'm still not *quite* as brave as I need to be. Back in the mists of teenage time when I was still religious, I tried to get into public speaking by reading the Bible out in church. Although I was by far the youngest of the lay readers, I was the only one who you could hear right at the back. I would stand at the front, at the lectern in front of all the rapt worshippers, and would boom out: "The lesson today is from the twenty-second chapter of the book of Deuteronomy, starting at the fifth verse." About that time, though, I started to feel guilty because I suspected it was wrong; then I realised that it's not something I should feel guilty about and I'm not going to hell whatever my lessons say. I guess that makes me braver in one way, even if it wasn't my intention. I still kept up the church readings even though I didn't believe in it, until I left home. It was good fun. The old ladies in the congregation all thought I would become a bishop some day. Maybe I should go back home and give them a shock. Um, I think I had a point when I started writing this. It was something like "don't all argue about how what clothes you wear affects *you* as an individual" That comes up every few months on the list, after all. I think I was trying to say that there are far more important things to bother about, like being nice to people just to show them that the world is a nice place. Don't be blinkered, don't wrap yourself in cliques, that sort of thing. Also, don't wear stuff just cos you want to be part of a scene. Just wear what you want to, if you're brave enough. And be as supportive as you can to all the people who aren't brave enough to walk outside dressed to match their inner selves. People always start leaving lists when you get horrible nasty arguments. I'm thinking of leaving Sinister---or at least, being more of a lurker---but it's not because of any of that. It's just because it's time I stopped posting neverending posts like this one whenever I think I'm starting to feel "deep". I might come back again before long, possibly in disguise, possibly in less of a disguise. Oh, don't *just* dress the way you want. Dress in a way that will get you into Chu's pants, of course! I'm sure every Sinister girl wants to do that; well, apart from me maybe. xx -- http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Doyster at xxx.nz Fri Aug 24 00:13:49 2001 From: Doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark.) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:13:49 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Without wanting to sound like a condescending older brother... Message-ID: ...I feel I have to add to this "indie" thread. As I haven't been a teenager for ten years I have had plenty of time to reflect on the things that troubled me then, and some of those things were the same things that are being talked about now. When I was a kid the Dunedin Sound was in full swing, and if you wanted to be "Alternative" there were a couple of options. You could go Skinhead, tough, hard, pretty much fucked in the head. You could go Punk, still going strong in 1988. You could just adopt the black jeans and tatty black jersey that was the uniform of the New Zealand bands of the time. Or you could go "Goth". I went Goth. Now what happens is, you in your need to be "different" adopt the uniform of other people who are "different". This is fine, nothing to be ashamed of, and it serves it's purpose well, being both "different" and a "uniform". The problem arises when you start to discover that the other people who have set themselves apart from the rest of society are just as messed up and inadequate as you, (that's what attracted you all to the same thing in the first place). Which means that they are not always friendly, they are not always approachable,(for some reason people in the underground look to people who share the same signifiers as suspicious). They are prone to backstabbing and bitchiness, and then there is the hierarchy. Some have been doing it for longer than you, some for less, some intimidate you with their inherent coolness and some are laughable (oh no, now you're doing it) This can seem like a blow to you, as you are young, isolated (your parents don't even understand you) and somewhat vulnerable. To make things worse you are maybe smoking pot or dropping acid, mmmmmmmm PARANOIA! The good part is that eventually it won't matter anymore, It was terrible for me at the time but now it just don't matter. As you grow you discover more about yourself and your own individuality, you stop caring what other people think and you no longer have to hide that "embarrassing" record at the back of the pile or fret about the cut of your pants and one day you will laugh out loud about it all. (it may be easy for some to dismiss this cos I come from a very small country in the South Pacific, but if anything the small size of the "scene" only exacerbates the problems as everything is more insular and all the "subcultures" have to coexist) On another note, Renaldo mentioned the smiths line "it's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind". When my little brother was in high school two "hard kids" had him hoisted up by his neck against a wall and were about to beat him up so he said that line to them and they let him go. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mod4real at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 09:22:16 2001 From: mod4real at xxx.com (Toby C) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 01:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Smiths Strikes Back!!!!!! Message-ID: <20010824082216.45870.qmail@web9207.mail.yahoo.com> to indie kids and non-indie kids.... whatever...who care? I ve read an article, on Dazed and Confused, bout the misunderstood Latino youth (in LA) who love The Smiths and reckon Moz as their role model....this is now two thousand and one now, man... i hope i can join one of them too.... if this is not a Latino-only thing... And I bought Luna's Live album (released few months ago, when the Galaxie 500 tribute album was released)too. good old Dean sung Galaxie 500 tune again... it toke the heat off me for a while. I am in a band right now... playing bass and writing songs. I ve 2 song now.... and one of them is called "Jellyfish" (or "Jellyfish's Dream")with a line "I live my life in my mobile home"... does this line make any sense to u native english speaker? I am trying to fill the lyrics in Cantonese (the language we speak in Hong Kong) ...but it is so damn hard coz Cantonese is a nine Tonal Lauguage. ihope i can play like Naomi Yang. Simians rules! Toby __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 12:06:46 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:06:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: Purple is a swell colour Message-ID: <134.882c1a.28b78f46@aol.com> Hewwo, Well, I'm sitting here in a purple room, with a purple bed, and purple walls and purple curtains, and a purple carpet and wardrobes full of purple clothes, and a purple chair and maths homework in a purple folder, and a purple bottle of ribena, and purple pajamas, and dolls in purple dresses, and a purple wastepaper bin and I'm reminded how much I like the colour purple. I think my throat might be a little bit purple too, cause I've got tonsilitis and can only talk in a whisper, which my family finds cute. That's swell but I'm in a slight amount of pain. Still at least I'm providing entertainment (and not being in school which is my favourite way to spend time). I wanted to get purple throat sweets, but the red ones taste better, and since I've got about 20 packets to make my way through I'd better at least like them (say goodbye to the lining of my stomach). Armed only with my Tunes and four seasons of Buffy on tape, I think I can see the bright side of this. Did anyone watch Buffy last night? I'm not posh so I don't have Sky, so that was the first time I've seen it. It was grate, but Dracula had rubbish hair and wasn't really as sexy as everyone kept making out (even though he had on a tank top at one point and tank tops are god's gift to girls). Still maybe it's cause he wasn't indie enough for me and i'm such an indie snob. Or so I keep being told by a certain buoy. Notice how I've adopted new words like swell and buoy. Buoy is boy but in a real buoyish sense of the word. A hard kid male could never be a buoy, he would just be a normal boy. It all makes sense in my head don't have me commited. Speaking of words, have you ever noticed how some words get into your head and eat away the rest of all the words in your head and be greedy and push themselves to the front so you use them all the time even though it makes you sound like a complete retard? Like swell. And nya. James the Ginger Perv Who I Am Going To Get Because He Is A Moke thinks I'm mentally defficient, but I have a grate strategy. Do you want to hear it? Insult his parentage, point out the I got straight ones and he never, and then walk away maturely (and get my friend to phone his house at 6.00am every morning for the next 10 years to shout NYA and hang up haha). Its grate. Do you think that makes me a bitch? He did do some pretty mean stuff to me though. My dad bought me magazines. I asked him for FHM but he got me Shout. Oh well at least it might have S Club Seven in it. Ooh, a Steps interview. Do you think they'll mention B&S? Will I think said something about suicide. I learned from my friend all the best ways to commmit suicide. Like when you slit your wrists you should do it down the way, towards your elbow, and not across, cause then they cant save you and you bleed to death quicker. And if you're going to OD you should take Paracetamol if you really want to die, and Ibu Profen if you're doing it for attention or a cry for help because its easier to die with paracetamol or something. And if you hang yourself theres a special place just in the little hollow bit in your neck near your shoulder and if you put the knot in the rope there, it mean that if it pulls tight suddenly your neck will snap and you will die quicker than if you just choke to death. All tips I will remember if I ever decide to try that again. I hate people who go on about their suicide attempts, especially goths, who swallow two asprin and call all their pals up and say "I tried to take an overdose man" like they're proud of it. If you tried to kill yourself, then you shouldn't boast about it. I know these trendies who boast about it and I hate that cause people who top themselves are really selfish, and really cowardly, and just generally mokes, because they're not the ones who have to live with the fact that they're dead. Nobody in the whole world has no one who's going to mourn them. Even complete mokes like Hitler had friends and stuff. There's no such thing as despair. Even if there's only one happy moment in your whole life, it's worth living. Rats, I think I might have just gone all serious. Am I turning into a goth? Someone else said about that Smiths line "It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind." When I was 13 I thought i'd be really clever and use that on someone. They spat on me right in my face and I learned not to quote song lyrics at hard kids. For ages songs like Lord Anthony and Expectations were my theme songs for school.Especially Expectations cause of the bit at the end about being a star, because even though its not true, its always nice to listen to that part and imagine that you might be a star, or not even that, just that the posse girls might not be that much better than you. But mostly I liked it cause of the trumpets. When I read peoples posts out in my head I read them in a scottish voice. Does that mean that someone reads out my post in their head in a different voice? I blame this post on the strepsils. Hugs, Jen Ps. Ken Chu, cause everyone else is doing it and I'm a secret posse girl. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 12:46:49 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:46:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Case of the Runaway Thread - Inside Honey's Bar Message-ID: "Of all the bars in all the world..." The stranger used to be a regular here. Now no-one else in the bar noticed him. Idles did. "Murdoch," she growled, "I never though I�d see you again." His face was hard now, and his tattoos were faded. Idles didn�t shed a tear for lost youth. She wouldn�t want to flatter the man. "Yeah, kid," he answered, "Well I�m not here to see you. I�m not here to see anyone. Jus� mindin� my own business." "You know the troubles in this town. The Murdoch I knew wouldn�t ignore things like that. Not the Murdoch I knew that night in Milton Keynes." "Milton Keynes ain�t the same now, kid. Ever since the Chu gang came to town." "I never thought you�d be afraid of them." "All I�m sayin� is it�s none of my business anymore. Now I have to go, Bel�s cookin� dinner." There was one thing she knew would get through to him. That song he used to sing in Milton Keynes, all that long time ago. "Play it, Sam," she growled, "Play Slow Graffiti" "Me name�s not Sam," said the man at the piano, "It�s Trevor. Fridays is Sam�s night off, see?" This time she almost spat it. "Play it, Trevor, for old time�s sake." "Anything you say, Miss Idles" The bar went quiet. The only sound was the piano and the ring of thirty glasses of Ribena as they were slowly placed on tables. Trevor sang: "dere�s a por-or-tray-ay-ayt" "I knew I shouldn�t have made this a jazz song." Said Murdoch. Those lines on his face were melting, though. Idles looked at his eyes. They were blue � as blue as his tattoos � she remembered the night they�d got them together. That night in Milton Keynes... "...oh show me please how I will look in t-ah-wenty yee-ee-ears!" "Damn you, Idles! And stop playing that song, I never want to hear that song again!" "Stuart, stay," whispered Idles. "For me. For everyone." "I have to go. It�s Bel. She�s cookin� a stew, kid!" And he left +++ She could see the bedroom light from the corner of the street. Really, she should have known. It was the same light that sneaked under her apartment door as she turned the key and picked out the girl lounging in her easy chair. Her lips were red, as red as her eyes, and lit by the inch of ash hanging from her cigarette. Her legs were as long as the road to Sing Sing. She swung a tiny gun around her finger like it was a heart on a chain. "Rachel!" Idles hissed. "It�s Archel now, honey. You sure look pleased to see me" "There�s only one thing in this room I�m pleased to see." She reached past Archel and the gun for the bottle of Ribena on the table. It was hard to see it in this light. Why didn�t Archel switch on one in this room? She swigged from the bottle, then choked. This was no Ribena. The room seemed to grow as she sank to her knees. It brightened too. A dark figure had stepped from the bedroom and towered above her. "Sleep well, Miss Idles," he laughed. "Chu!", she gasped, but before she could say any more she was out cold. To be continued... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 13:58:08 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 05:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: PINING FOR THE FJORDS???????????? sorry, how rude. Message-ID: <20010824125808.46383.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> AAAAAAGH internet cafe's are scary. Norway is lovely, but all listees are in sweden. ah well. I hate not speaking the native language. typical English tourist. (i don't repeat things louder if they don't iunderstand, though). Indie is NOT a word. check chambers. D'oh is a word. Accribits isn't. I pride myself on not being cliquey. indie is a clique. my flares are typicall charity shop fare. not to be indie, so that it's more ethical than buying slave trousers. Vegetarianism isn't a passing craze, some people belive in it. I drink fairtrade coffee and tea and eat fairtrade chocolate not to be indie. ethicism is missing in consumerist culture. i don't shop at corporations (frequently) due to anti-unionism and slave clothes trade. Also, i hate shelling out 25 quid for a pair of trousers. Gotta go, family are hassling me. last family holliday ever!!!!!yippeeee. Hello to those who mailed me. I will send your kit next week. Idles, was 3 troika bars excessive? 1 seems stingy. Ciao, Love Niko xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 15:08:16 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:08:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Case of the Runaway Thread - Inside Honeys Bar (once again) Message-ID: Idles awoke the next morning. "Arghh! Ribena! The hallucinations have never been this bad before. And hallucinating about the evil Chu of all people. This case is really getting to me." She dressed quickly and made her way to Miss honey�s bar. " If there is one thing for certain the answers to this case lie there." She thought Meanwhile, in another part of town, Sunny started to fret. Was it possible that idles wasn't the super sleuth everyone thought? The possibility didn't bare thinking about . Besides Miss Gardiner had seemed fairly convinced that the case would be solved and harmony would be once again restored to Miss Honey's Bar. And besides how could the case fail now Idles had enlisted the help of the v-bird Nevertheless Sunny was troubled and her uneasy brain couldn�t rest. She started to think once more about Honey's disappearance. That had sure been one big coincidence. Right in the middle of this whole dirty business a letter had been received saying that she was off to France. Looking back Sunny couldn't see why nobody had spotted this sooner. This was no ordinary holiday. Honey had been forced to leave the country and Sunny intended to find out why. "Right that�s it" Sunny grabbed her coat and went into the kitchen returning with her dog. "We are going to Miss Honey�s bar." The journey nearly reached a premature end as a large seagull narrowly missed hitting Sunny�s Head. The bird exploded before hitting the pavement. Leaving behind a faint yet distinctive smell of baking soda. Sunny shook her head."Things are getting mighty strange around here" It took sometime for sunny�s eyes to acclimatise to the hazy smoke. This indie schmindie case had certainly caused an upset in these parts. Idles stepped from the behind the smoke, casually knocked back her glass of ribena and spoke. "This case is getting to me. I thought we had put an end to trouble in this neck of the woods when I finally solved the mystery of the missing East Coast tour dates. But all of this happening so soon afterwards I am beginning to think there is something more sinister a foot. Sunny turned to Idles. "Look you know how things work around here as well as anybody. What is that Chu up to this time?" Idles stared slowly ahead before replying. You know I don�t think he�s the one behind this time. He might be an evil genius but I really don�t think this is his scene". Sunny eyed Idles suspiciously. Was there something she wasn�t telling her? Sunny decided it was best not to confront Idles. That gunshot scar sure looked real enough. Instead changing the subject she nodded towards a large group of people in he corner of Miss Honey's Bar. "Who are they?" "They are the lurkers sunny. Idles solemnly began to explain: "They pop their heads up now again and provide fresh ideas and help create the normal pleasant ambiance of the bar. But on the whole they sit quietly watching what is going on." "Surely they might have some idea what�s behind the Schmindie case?" asked sunny "I have no doubt they would but it is getting them to talk that�s the problem. These scmindie guys seem to have some sort of hold over them ."That�s terrible" gasped sunny whose despair was ever deepening. " I think we are in big trouble this time Idles". Sunny showed the letter Honey had sent. Idles frowned slightly before speaking. "Sunny I think you are right. I received the very same letter not long ago. I wasn�t sure what it meant at the time but what with this Rio tip off, the missing archives and the schmindie case in general I can�t help feeling they are all linked. That dame in the overcoat might have been some use to the case but I think we are missing something. Idles and Sunny turned at and looked at a silhouetted figure stood in the doorway. It was the V-Bird, laden with an old Dansette, a selection of Heavenly and Sarah records and a double-necked Gibson. And a small hamster.V-bird "are you going to keep appearing like this?" sighed Idles "I have news!" She was waving a crumpled piece of paper in one hand and a pair of red knickers in the other. The letter read: Let me show you the scene, The indie cool queen To be continued� _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 15:22:01 2001 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:22:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: piccernic reminder Message-ID: <86256AB2.004EEB6B.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hi kids Just a reminder about the London Picnic tomorrow, meeting at two pm outside the Cinema on Camden Parkway. Then progressing to Regent's park, right next to the elephant enclosure. Bring bouze and stuff. and your dancing shoes for Tigermilking afterwards 8pm til 1am in the betsey trotwood on Farringdon road. That's it, sorry for the short post but I finish early on a Friday so I'm off to sit in the sun in the park :-) Cabbagexx PS in case of rain, we'll be in the spread eagle probably +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewbutler at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 16:30:39 2001 From: rewbutler at xxx.com (Rob Butler) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:30:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Anteaters Message-ID: I wouldn't bother reading this if I were you... >...Then progressing to Regent's park, right next to the >elephant enclosure. And the anteater enclosure. Which is much better than the elephant enclosure, even though they don't put on a big show washing the anteaters. I'm not sure you're allowed to do this, but I'm going to bring some food to throw through the bars for the anteaters... I wonder what they eat? Seriously though, anteaters ROCK! Particularly giant ones. And pangolins. But as for those bloody Golden Lion Tamarins. Every third cage in the nocturnal zone contains a few of these buggers. They all need shooting, if you ask me. >Bring bouze and stuff. Am I the only one who spells it BOOZE? Like OOZE. 'Bouze' sounds camp. >Indie is NOT a word. check chambers. D'oh is a word. Indie IS a word. Check Chambers. I just did. Being a sad crossword buff, I check Chambers nearly every day, and regularly notice 'indie' whilst perusing for various obscure neologisms and archaisms. As for d'oh, apparently it was first used in the Jennings novels (by Anthony Buckridge, I think??), spoken regularly by one of the teachers, who said it more like this: 'Dooohhhhhhh' - hence the chap whose name is on the tip of my tongue but which I can't quite remember but wrote the Simpsons, uses an apostrophe comme ca: D'oh. And that's true that is, he genuinely acknowledges that that's where it came from - well, that and a Laurel and Hardy film which also used the word. God I'm a mine of trivia today aren't I? I really should get out more. Speaking of which, see some of youse at the pic-a-nic-a tomorrow. I promise not to be four hours late this time. But might go to the zoo first. They have anteaters! Rob PS. Indie: (ind-i) (informal) n. An independent record company, esp one that produces music outside the mainstream of popular music; also, an independent film or television production company. - Also adj. PPS. What's the name of that book about the horse in Czechoslovakia? The Llew Llist of B&S books reminded me - I'm sure I read somewhere about this book, and thought. Hurley's having dreams, of course, I wondered what that mad Scottish nutter was wittering on about. PPPS. Still looking for a few fabric songs for my pub quiz, which I'm giving next week. No Felt, too obscure. I've come up with Velvet Underground, Suede, Knights in white satin, and a few others. Help! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 18:02:27 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the voices you hear in your head Message-ID: <20010824170227.61337.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Jen said: When I read peoples posts out in my head I read them in a scottish voice. Does that mean that someone reads out my post in their head in a different voice? Well, Jen, when I read your post, I decided your voice was akin to Kim Deal. All girls sound like Kim Deal in my head, except me. I dunno what "voice" I read peoples posts in. Except Honeys- its always a Frankie Howerd voice for Honey, even though I've met Honey and I know its not true, its still the voice that gets played reading Honey's posts. Mark Castrodude has the voice of Michael Burke. and so on and so forth. Ken Chu always sounded like Mojo-jojo out of Powerpuff girls til I actually met him. And stevecarsmile has the voice of that scary dude who sings "Hes got the whole world in his hands" in Con Air. Don't ask me why- I think its cos I keep wanting to call him Steve Carstairs and stuff, and suggest hes a bit scary. A nice short post, so you can get through to the next one quicker, darlings. :) Love, Idles ***SNOG*** ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Aug 24 18:19:19 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:19:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Seattle Show - Change of Venue Message-ID: <000e01c12cc0$ea3d1860$1184fc3e@neil> Please note that the B&S show in Seattle has been moved to The Paramount Theatre. Tickets are still available from Ticketmaster, and tickets for the original Moore Theatre show are still valid. Sorry I don't have more info, but this is hot off the press. It might not even be on Ticketmaster quite yet. Please tell your friends as we'll look right bloody stupid if we move to a bigger venue and no-one comes! Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 19:53:26 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:53:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: So you'll aim toward the sky Message-ID: ok... will's post made me cry. he's right about the light up on the salisbury crags, how pretty it can be, but it is a sad place too. that area is so pretty, but i always feel a bit sad going near it because of things. death is big and scary but, y'know, it's part of life. that might sound incredibly stupid or whatever but it's true. i know how it feels, to be so completely out of hope and so desperate to end whatever part of life that is bad. it is not a nice place to be. but i think i had to get that low before i could sort my head out and feel better. i mean, there are days when it feels like nothing is going right anymore and i just want to sit down and either sleep or just lie down and look into space all day and night, but you have think about the good things that you have. if you keep focusing on them then the bad things don't seem so... bad. if i was good with words i would make this sound a whole lot better. i agree with jenowl though, about people who boast about trying to kill themselves. i mean, what's the point? you get these people who are like "ooh, i tried to kill myself, feel my inner torture" and i am just like, "it didn't work, why are you so proud of it?". i used to have loads of pen pals, (when i liked a certain band renowned for their, ahem, 4 real fans) and most of them would go on and on and on about how they had a breakdown the other week, or how they feel that the world is against them and without Richey they have no hope and it just made me so angry cos if i had had a breakdown the other week i wouldn't be writing millions of letters about it, i'd be lying down somewhere resting. if you have problems like that, you don't go about boasting about them. well, i dunno, maybe that helps some people. but there was this girl who ionce wrote to, and every letter i got from her was about how she felt like her whole college hated her, she had cut her arms to ribbons, she'd written a suicide not and left it for her mum to find even though she had no intetion (at that point) of killing herself and about how she'd had umpteen nervous breakdowns before the age of twelve. i mean, how many things like that can happen to one 17 year old? i don't mean to sound insensitive but i just didn't know how to help her. sorry for ranting. amy x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Fri Aug 24 21:25:38 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:25:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Alas poor mother, i knew her well. Message-ID: <20010824202538.89621.qmail@web12306.mail.yahoo.com> Have you ever really looked at your mother? Not wishing to sound like a bad poem in a mothers day card, but i imagine its inevitable. There was something beautiful about my mum this week, perhaps i saw her real character, the courage despite a life of frailty. Perhaps i was tired and emotional. It made me think how dismissive one can be of a familiar person. You reach a point where a face is nothing more than the image of it that you created. Your initial impression is the benchmark for how you see someone forever. Its a slightly hollywood concept, i envisage a tasty leading man recollecting his meeting with his lover and saying; "and that night i saw her, really for the first time." Ok so i am going off on one slightly, and there is nothing Belle and Sebastian in this recitation. Still relevant. Josephine xx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 01:05:27 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:05:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: The case of the runaway thread....(a few days later) Message-ID: Idles was losing hope. She’d been on the case now for what seemed like days and seemed to be getting nowhere apart from dragged down in memories and dead ends. The mysterious note had only increased her curiosity. What did it mean and why was the V-Bird only appearing brandishing riddles? Her hideous hallucination of being kidnapped by the Chu gang hadn’t helped any either. She shuddered as she remembered Chu’s vow for revenge after she had cracked the Bulls Blood case. A faint whistle of a tune from long ago made her slam her hand against the wall as she thought once again of Murdoch and that night with the tattoos. That boy always had a way of worming his way into her head. He was so innocent then, untainted by the scent of Legal Men on his tail. He had always been a no-good scallywag, but that night he was her no good scallywag. She remembered the way he held her whilst they danced to the beat of that old Go-Betweens song that she had always loved, the lo! ! ok in his eyes, his stripy T-shi rt against her. A tear formed in her eye. This wasn’t doing her any good. The only thing for it was to go back to Honey’s bar and see what she could drag up there again. Last time, it seemed that the lurkers had been unwilling to talk. Perhaps this time, a few Ribena’s here and there may loosen their tongues. She sauntered into the bar that seemed much denser than before. She noticed a figure clad in a blue duffel coat sat at her usual table. She hadn’t noticed this person before in Honey’s Bar and wondered what she wanted from her. “Ahh Idles, just the person I’ve been wanting to talk to,” said a husky female voice. It was the voice of a woman jaded by time and Ribena. A woman who had once walked with God, but strayed away. Idles looked up to see the face of a girl with a floppy black fringe, with the biggest and most soulful blue eyes she had seen in a while. The girl fiddled with the many badges on her dress, cleared her throat and began to speak. “Idles, I need your help, and in return, perhaps I could provide some much needed help with the Indie case?” Idles gasped. She had not really seen this stranger in Honey’s bar before. How could she trust her, and how could she know about the Indie case? The girl continued, “I know I may look like a lurker, but I assure you. I’ve been around and I know what I’m doing. My name is Miss Jenni. Perhaps you’ve seen me before. I am of course, a mistress of disguise, what with my glasses and all. I received a mysterious note the other day from a “Miss Crush” concerning a certain person who is interested in perhaps….getting to know me better.” Idles cut her off. “Miss Jenni, this is all very well and good. But how can you possibly help me? This is nothing to do with matters of love.” “That is what you may think. But perhaps you’re looking in the wrong places. After all, it is a well known fact that Indie kids dress in a certain way to attract a mate. Perhaps this Miss Crush could provide you with some much needed clues as well as help me. Ribena?” “It’s a bit early in the day for me…” Miss Jenni fluttered her blue eyes at Idles “Go on…you look like you’re in need of refreshment.” Idles sniffed the drink carefully. She never could be too sure, especially with her dream of the Chu gang kidnapping still fresh in her mind. She took a careful sip and deemed it to have a full sugar content and therefore worthy of savouring. But Idles was a whiley Private eye. “How can I trust you Miss Jenni? Don’t you hang around with that Post-Rock lot? Stuart “Uncle Fester” Braithwaite and the Mogwai gang?” Miss Jenni folded her arms defensively. “Braithwaite has nothing to do with this. Besides, he’s a useful ally in the war against the Chu gang.” She shuddered at the very thought of them. “I’m offering my services free of charge here. If you don’t want my help then fine. I just want to tell you you’d be making a mistake.” At that moment, the door opened. A flash of a tattoo, a whistle of a bar of “Slow Graffiti.” Both Idles and Miss Jenni froze at the sound. “Oh God, I’ve got to go” Miss Jenni gathered her things hurriedly. “Well, where can I find you?” “I’m staying at the Cordy Smokes motel. Room 27. You can reach me there.” With that and one last look at Idles over her shoulder, Miss Jenni fled from Honey’s bar. “Murdoch” said Idles with more conviction then she felt. “You again” “Who was that?” growled Murdoch “A friend. That’s all.” “That’s strange…I’m sure I’ve seen that cleavage somewhere before...” To be continued... "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go. But Pickled Onion Monster Munch? Now they're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 01:17:51 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:17:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: The case of the runaway thread... (A few days later on) Message-ID: <73.1214a80f.28b848bb@aol.com> Idles was losing hope. She'd been on the case now for what seemed like days and seemed to be getting nowhere apart from dragged down in memories and dead ends. The mysterious note had only increased her curiosity. What did it mean and why was the V-Bird only appearing brandishing riddles? Her hideous hallucination of being kidnapped by the Chu gang hadn't helped any either. She shuddered as she remembered Chu's vow for revenge after she had cracked the Bulls Blood case. A faint whistle of a tune from long ago made her slam her hand against the wall as she thought once again of Murdoch and that night with the tattoos. That boy always had a way of worming his way into her head. He was so innocent then, untainted by the scent of Legal Men on his tail. He had always been a no-good scallywag, but that night he was her no good scallywag. She remembered the way he held her whilst they danced to the beat of that old Go-Betweens song that she had always loved, the look in his eyes, hi! ! s stripy T-shirt against her. A tear formed in her eye. This wasn't doing her any good. The only thing for it was to go back to Honey's bar and see what she could drag up there again. Last time, it seemed that the lurkers had been unwilling to talk. Perhaps this time, a few Ribenas here and there may loosen their tongues. She sauntered into the bar that seemed much denser than before. She noticed a figure clad in a blue duffel coat sat at her usual table. She hadn't noticed this person before in Honey's Bar and wondered what she wanted from her. "Ahh Idles, just the person I've been wanting to talk to," said a husky female voice. It was the voice of a woman jaded by time and Ribena. A woman who had once walked with God, but strayed away. Idles looked up to see the face of a girl with a floppy black fringe, with the biggest and most soulful blue eyes she had seen in a while. The girl fiddled with the many badges on her dress, cleared her throat and began to speak. "Idles, I need your help, and in return, perhaps I could provide some much needed help with the Indie case?" Idles gasped. She had not really seen this stranger in Honey's bar before. How could she trust her, and how could she know about the Indie case? The girl continued, "I know I may look like a lurker, but I assure you. I've been around and I know what I'm doing. My name is Miss Jenni. Perhaps you've seen me before. I am of course, a mistress of disguise, what with my glasses and all. I received a mysterious note the other day from a "Miss Crush" concerning a certain person who is interested in perhaps,getting to know me better." Idles cut her off. "Miss Jenni, this is all very well and good. But how can you possibly help me? This is nothing to do with matters of love." "That is what you may think. But perhaps you're looking in the wrong places. After all, it is a well known fact that Indie kids dress in a certain way to attract a mate. Perhaps this Miss Crush could provide you with some much needed clues as well as help me. Ribena?" "It's a bit early in the day for me" Miss Jenni fluttered her blue eyes at Idles. "Go on, you look like you're in need of refreshment." Idles sniffed the drink carefully. She never could be too sure, especially with her dream of the Chu gang kidnapping still fresh in her mind. She took a careful sip and deemed it to have a full sugar content and therefore worthy of savouring. But Idles was a whiley Private eye. "How can I trust you Miss Jenni? Don't you hang around with that Post-Rock lot? Stuart "Uncle Fester" Braithwaite and the Mogwai gang?" Miss Jenni folded her arms defensively. "Braithwaite has nothing to do with this. Besides, he's a useful ally in the war against the Chu gang." She shuddered at the very thought of them. "I'm offering my services free of charge here. If you don't want my help then fine. I just want to tell you you'd be making a mistake." At that moment, the door opened. A flash of a tattoo, a whistle of a bar of "Slow Graffiti." Both Idles and Miss Jenni froze at the sound. "Oh God, I've got to go" Miss Jenni gathered her things hurriedly. "Well, where can I find you?" "I'm staying at the Cordy Smokes motel. Room 27. You can reach me there." With that and one last look at Idles over her shoulder, Miss Jenni fled from Honey's bar. "Murdoch" said Idles with more conviction then she felt. "You again" "Who was that?" growled Murdoch "A friend. That's all." "That's strange,I'm sure I've seen that cleavage somewhere before..." To be continued... "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go. But Pickled Onion Monster Munch? Now they're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 02:43:04 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:43:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A century of ken Message-ID: <002701c12d07$48f63300$5744893e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I haven't posted in a few days and now I'm fucking evil... great. Will's post mentioned cliffs and people dying. I haven't seen that said cliff, but I keep having this image of this great big green bare hill with a cliff in the middle. I am very fond of great big green bare hills. I remember a few months ago driving along a stretch of motorway on my way to scotland and I had to pass through these stretches of bare, endless green hills, and how I were tempted to just park the car on the side and take a hike up the hill and just lay there, and watch the sky, and forget about my worries. I would be the only person in this great landscape, just me, to escape from the loneliness of being alone in the crowd, and instead to be in my own little kingdom, to claim this hill as my own, for a day, a week, forever. It may have been the soundtrack in the car, I think I have watched too many cheesy music videos, and whenever I hear a song I would always imagine that I am living inside a film, where the song I'm hearing is the soundtrack, and just as I were passing the hills, a few songs came on, and I did feel like that, well, if I'm to ever end my life, it would be there, on the hill, alone, where I will be forever in peace, and not be found. A simple end to a simple life, I guess. Then, a few days later, I was in the biggest music video of it all, in the middle of a Belle & Sebastian concert, as they played "We Rule the School", I knew that was it, pictures of my life just flashed in front of my eyes, as if I was dying, and indeed, I felt as if I was about to die. As tears of mourning dropped a new person was born, no more will he be hurt by the stupid things in his life, for the old Ken is dead, and the new Ken is just going to take life as it comes, with his tongue in (his own) cheek. He will still go up to the hills on his own, but he will remember to bring food this time, so he can be a king of the hill that lives for more than 10 days. I have no idea whether this new Ken is evil or not, but he is very drunk and probably why sent a post to sinister that means absolutely fuck all. Ah Well. Apparently people have to mention Ken a few times in their posts now, I think I've done my fair share already this time, doesn't hurt to say it again tho, "Ken Chu". Ken and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 05:35:59 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:35:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The plot thickens. Message-ID:


I'd been sitting in one of the smokier rear booths when the girl walked in. I knew immediately something was amiss, and I took a long drag on my cigarette before casually turning back to the darts. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed the Murdoch boy. At it again, no doubt. The pianist began to play and I winced inwardly. Another whiny wee tune. I shook my head in disgust and snubbed my dying cigarette in the pristine black ashtray before me. Not any longer, though. Not much stays clean after I'm through with it. The girl seemed to be upset about something and I turned my attention back to their conversation. Murdoch was attracting things to these parts that he shouldn't be. I fumbled with the pack of smokes distractedly and drummed my fingers on the table to the sound of Trevor mutilating the old ivories. Where was Sam when you needed him? Back to business at hand, though. Between the Chu punks and this Murdoch fellow, things were tense, to say the least. I decided then that something should be done about the tattooed lad if we were to go through with our plan. I paid the bartender complacently and avoided any eye contact on my way out to the phone. I let the phone ring three times before a female voice picked up. "Peter Carter, please." I coughed. He'd know what to do. "Hello?" his familiar throaty voice questioned. "Peter; it's Timothy. We may have a slight problem..." To be continued _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 09:47:27 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:47:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch VS. Stuart David Message-ID: Hi gentle people! I need answers about B&S. Please, any help? I went to Benicassim and I did bring my Stuart David's book "NALDA SAID" (bautiful book I have to say) thinking that Mr. David still was in B&S. So (I'm stupid I know) I met Stuart Murdoch and I asked him where Stuart David was in order to get his signature!! (I never saw Stuart David before!!!) and then he told me that SD already left the band a year ago to play with his own band LOOPER. He was kind of piss off by my request and I swear I didn't know about SD leaving the band. I knew he had his own band but he was also playing in B&S. Well, anyway... I fucked it up! but then.... Does anybody knows what happened between Stuart David and Belle and Sebastian? Did they argue to each other? I think they're no friends anymore. Maybe I'm wrong but I wonder anyway. BTW worderful gig. They were magical, spontaneous, friendly, nice, funny, elegant, cool... Also, Isobel looked like she wasn't there. I mean, sometines she looked like she was ungry or something. Maybe too much for her??? Lot of people said that something is going on with Isobel. Her attitude was weird. Maybe I'm wrong again... Thanks to everybody gentle people! The boy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Aug 25 18:52:20 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: More curious than Iain Rankin,... more lusty than Jackie Collins.... Message-ID: <20010825175220.81835.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all... dunno if you've been following the "Case Of The missing Thread story" but I sure as hell have been, and love it to bits. (particularly the milton keynes thing!) So much so, that I thought I'd go and put all the different story parts together, to form a web novel type thing, with credit given to the authors. http://www.geocities.com/idleberry/detective.html So if you dunno whats going on, and its all looking a bit confusing, look no further than the link to hopefully clarify it all a bit. :-) (looking forward to interogating Chris Geddes tonsils.. *HINT HINT HINT!*) cheers, Idleberry Private Investigator (Graduate) ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lauren0 at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 05:47:33 2001 From: lauren0 at xxx.com (Lauren L.) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: fireflies only last for one night Message-ID: <20010826044733.91626.qmail@web12907.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. It's sort of late at night, and I felt like posting. I haven't posted in months. Nothing much is really different. School started last Monday. It's back to eight straight hours of drawing spirals, faces, shoes, eyes, apples, zigzag mountain ranges, scribbled song lyrics, t-shirts, shapes, chairs, futuristic telephones, cartoon characters, french vocabulary words, beaches, trees, and bicycles in the margins of my notebooks. Then it's time to go home. It's still way too hot here in swampy New Orleans to move or even eat. The air, especially after it rains, feels as heavy and sticky as hot glue. It's really gross, and makes your hair frizz. I can't wait until the weather gets cold and I can wear sweaters and fuzzy hats.... but I'll have to. That's still a few months off. I just decided that I am sort of like a cartoon character because I wear the same thing all the time. Jeans and blue t-shirt. And flip flops are a must for shuffling through dirty puddles after an afternoon thunderstorm. Everyone at school talks about colleges. I have to apply to some later on. It's exciting, because it means I get to go somewhere brand new- somewhere with a good music store, somewhere with snowstorms, somewhere where everyone I know isn't there. I really can't wait... As for B&S, well, they won't be coming here. Oh well. I'm going to try to fall asleep. Take Care... Night night Lauren (oranges) P.S. I hope you didn't miss Shark Week. It was excellent. Thanks, Tamara for the subject line. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marshalltindall at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 06:15:32 2001 From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:15:32 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Eric's Trip!!! Message-ID: I saw Eric's Trip on Monday, it was great. Of course it was in a local club with the soundman from hell. (Hmmm...I can't hear the vocals, better turn the bass up to deafening proportions, grrrrr....) the concert was also stupid loud, it almost ruined it but thankfully, not quite. Anyway, I had to work the next day and there were three, 3!, opening acts, and Eric's Trip took the stage at like one in the morning. this wouldn't have been so bad if I didn't start work at 6 in the morning, oh well it was worth it. I did pick up a Julie Doiron and the Wooden Stars CD which is almost twee, but Julie doesn't sound much like Isobel, it still makes me all dreamy inside. I also got a Julie Doiron t-shirt (they sold out of Eric's Trip ones,dammit!!!) Oh and I forget who mentioned it but I'm not sure if McCartney's Ram album is indie at all (not that I'm sure what indie is or what the indie rating scale is but I'm not even gonna go there..) ,I've had it since I was twelve and McCartney is definitly not indie, regardless of your definition, I mean he's a friggin' billionaire and a former beatle!!! Now then... Shimmering whirlpoolsof light will never replace the sunshine in your eyes or the laughter in your souls ...so be good to yourselves sinisterinies(?) Marshall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 08:08:49 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:08:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: we're not terrific, but we're competent... Message-ID: <7A879EE5FD995D1168360005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i have been having a hard time posting lately, especially since reading will's post and others that have made me think quite a bit...and i'll write something and reread it to discover that it is silly and just delete it. i'm sure this will be silly, too. one thing that has been on my mind is the idea that everywhere i can think of that i would rather be than here, there are people who are wishing they were somewhere else. i've thought about being in elementary school, when every day at recess i would wander off the schoolyard to a little wood across the road. one day i was feeling quite brave and trudged through the wood a bit to discover that it opened into a vast field. from then on, every recess was spent sitting on a stump at the edge of the field staring across to the horizon, feeling that if i could only make it all the way to the other side of that field, i would find myself someplace better. a few times i even started walking, but then i would always hear the schoolbell and lose my nerve and turn back. it's funny to think of, now that i've crossed borders and oceans...i even went back and crossed the field a couple of years ago. it was wonderfully liberating until i ran into the interstate and had to turn back again. for years i thought i was just bored, so i did quite a few unwise things in vain attempts to break the monotony...going to the home of a random man i met at the 7 eleven in the middle of the night and getting drunk talking about the bible, nudists and a communal rutabaga farm, for example. or thumbing a ride from a retired deadhead in a camaro. stupid things i'm embarassed i was naive enough to do, and which i would never do again. but those are times when i was truly happy. the rest of the time i'm just staring at the wall wishing i were anywhere but here. this is all making sense in my head but maybe not so much in writing, and if anyone is reading this they're probably scratching their dear heads right now, so i apologize. let's see, what else....last night corin and i witnessed the kickoff of a weekend festival in muskego, where we saw scads of scantily-clad middle-aged women clutching a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other, methodically shaking denim-clad asses to the stirring rhythms of lynyrd skynyrd. wandering off from the beer tent for a moment, we found ourselves strolling along a midway lined by shifty-eyed carnies gorging themselves on fried cheese and enticing us to play silly games to win creepy stuffed animals. one game required the player to hurl beanbag frogs at plastic ducks to win real live bunnies. this, my friends, is why i need to get out of wisconsin. xoxo kirsten oh yeah...um, ken chu Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 08:22:01 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:22:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's not the fact that he's following you, it's that he's not trying to hid - that's what's bothering you... Message-ID: <001701c12dff$ccffa160$e5ac7ad5@oemcomputer> Hey twee mother hubbards... It came to me last night, when we were in the Space gig, that Stuart Murdoch is little more than a walking set of spring-loaded dildoes. He's got that sort of wiry thing to him, and he seems to attract a certain amount of women, so that must be why. He's nothing but sex in a springy body. God knows why I thought of that. I was holding hands with a girl from Coatbridge whose name I can't remember, unfortunately. Was going to ask for her number, but got slightly distracted by Tommy, the big bitch that he is ;) I saw a pigeon this morning on my way to work. Nothing unusual there, you may think, but this one had a knackered foot, and it was limping along like some sort of old soldier with a war-wound. It was pitiful and sad, so I fed it a bit of my sandwich. I wonder how it's getting on. I'm becoming too concerned with pitiful animals/insects. I need to be hard and kick them in the nuts (© Eric Cartman). You have crisps? Ro-sham-bo you for them... Aaaanyway... the gig... Wandered for a while, then eventually headed along to the Liquid Room. It seemed to be following the King Tut's school of opening the doors on time - ie, half an hour late, which meant the support band (more on them in a minute) had to miss out their last song through time constraints. Ok, Sizer Barker opened. They were pretty damn good. Not at all what I expected from a band supoprting Space - quite a lot of varied influences here, from Lou Reed to Crowded House - which was cool. They liked my energy in the front row, so they invited me back stage (and Sweetie as well, of course) and we chatted there for a while. I got a signed running order, and a hug from the fucking cute bassist, and I gave Sweetie the setlist so she could have that signed. We got their e-mail address and we'll probably go and see them in Tuts when they play there next month. Very good start. Ok, Space came on. I managed to get Tommy to dedicate the first song - Mr. Psycho - to Sweetie, and he had a wee chat with her between that and the second song. We kept bantering with him for most of the gig, and I managed to start a 'Who the fuck are Man United' chant with the guitarist too, which was fun. Tommy kept coming over to shake our hands and point at Sweetie's hair, which she seemed to appreciate. Fuck, it was big. Anyway, that's beside the point. At the end of the gig, I managed to get the setlist (he came right over to hand it to me, which was nice of him) and he directed us towards the tour manager to get Sweetie's e-mail address to do an interview for her new fanzine, if it ever takes off. The band were cool, completely down to earth, and just all in all, a good laugh. Even got the guitarist to say "Any team is good, as long as they're not Rangers." Which got a mixed reaction. I suggest he doesn't try that one in Glasgow, eh guys? And so, the gig drew to a close. Sweetie got her train at 11:30, and I managed to get a bus at 12:30, getting into Glasgow for about 1:30, and after various taxt-waiting shenanigans, finally crawled into bed at 3am. To be woken up by my alarm at the much-too-soon time of 7am. Grr. Anyway, next gig is Air at the Barras - less chance for audience interaction there, but on the plus side, they are French and they are insane. So that bodes well. Later... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Sun Aug 26 11:14:56 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:14:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Joyous Occasion Message-ID: <000b01c12e18$1612ace0$fd7c893e@chris> And indeed it was. I had just the loveliest time I've had in ages yesterday at the nicpic, despite having to start travelling at 7 in the morning in order to get there (although I feel rather humble after hearing how ArtsyDeco got there). I had to put up with a pervy old man on the bus into Ipswich. I'm not a violent person, but if he had looked at me in that way one more time, I........ London was hot and full of chimney sweeps and children begging in rags. It hadn't changed much since I last visited. I managed to purchase a few choice records, including the JD 12" with poster to complete my collection of CD, 7" and 12". I arrived outside the Odeon to find people I didn't expect to see. Sam was there with a funny leg that had a Geiger counter or something on the side that could inflate and deflate his leg at will. he also hade skate kid crutches that could be used for ice crutching because they had little pokers on the end. Peter Carter was there with a 4" rewritable digestive on the floor, but more impressively, so was ArtsyDeco all the way from somewhere over there. Carsmile Steve was confusing me because he was at Reading and in London and because he thought the Moldy Peaches were great and I'm yet to appreciate their genius. Regents park was a lovely place to have a nicpic. Rob was describing anteaters to me in grate detail as we went and I got quite excited. They are furry with big noses apparently. He didn't know whether they actually ate ants, but his boyish enthusiasm got to me and I just wanted to see these marvellous creatures. Unfortunately we sat next to some camels with floppy humps, but that was OK. More people arrived which got me over the disappointment of the anteater incident. Priscilla was lovely as ever and even James from Leicester was there and it was spanking to see him again. There were lots of people I hadn't seen before. Mark Bloomfield knew lots about things in the world in general and was an oracle. Desmond Topey sat patiently and I managed to avoid saying Desmond in a terrible Jamaican accent. On the other side, away from the tree with the dog poo were two new girls. Carsmile suggested that they were from Poland which intrigued me a lot as I once knew a lovely Polish girl called Ola. Well, one of these girls came up and asked if I was Chris and if I came from the town of Ipswich (later shunned by Trousers). It was Ola and I was very very overjoyed and full of happiness to meet her and it was lovely and nice. I talked for a little while until two more young ladies accosted me. They had tape recorders and microphones and were recording documentaries for Radio 1 about corporate whores and obsessive fans. I spoke lots but am worried that a) I will have made a complete twat out of myself talking about sinister and b) I will have made a complete twat of myself by slagging off the York Student Union of which I am a member. Oh well. This is going to be a long e-mail. Perhaps I should do it in instalments. Oh! I'm in such a good mood now I might as well continue. Carsmile and Sam laughed at my top 12 song writers of the last decade. I was sad. Mark Casarotto was angry. how can such a gentle man have so much hate? Lots of people were forced to look at my photos and to make complimentary comments about me posing with his Struanness. I hope everyone liked them. After Sam had left and Stuart Hallifax had talked on the phone live from waiting to see Elbow at Reading I talked to Ola some more. Stevie Trousers paid me a flatteringly large amount of attention, I'm sure there was no ulterior motive! He doesn't like Ipswich though, which is OK because it is rubbish. Ken Chu was there. He didn't do that much as he was on the phone for ages, but he did manage the most seductive poses I have ever seen against a tree. We went to the Spread Eagle and I scrounged a drink off James, even though he had to sell his CD's to get to London. Mr. Apps was nice and we decided there must be a sinister Christmas bash. I had to go because I had nowhere to stay for Tigermilking, but it was the loveliest time I have had since......oohhh......the 26th of June. Some of you will know what happened then. Thank you all for making me so happy. Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Aug 26 12:13:37 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:13:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: beware the foresail Message-ID: <3B88D9E1.4DEF0C3D@netscapeonline.co.uk> Woke up yesterday morning covered in dust: woodshavings; plaster dust; sawn-brick dust and to the sound, stangely reminiscent in parts to Ryuchi Sakamoto's soundtrack to the *Sheltering Sky* (Paul Bowles as envisioned by Bernardo Bertolucci before he got infatuated by the girl Tyler). It wasn't the Japanese stylist, though, but Talvin Singh of the Asian Dub Foundation. I dreamed, in some detail, about sailing a yacht. My reasoning is that main and aft sails are, essentially, balanced by the keel but if you use the puffy sail way out front it will give you forwards propulsion with the wind behind you, but if it gets you on the side, it'll blow you over. So this rich, ambient, electronic surround-sound is going on as I roll around, head on a pillow wrapped in a plastic bag (even this is dusty) virtually crashing bows into tangy spray somewhere up in a Northern Sound ('Sound' being a stretch of water between islands). I wake up at the offer of tea. A black and white movie is playing silently on a television screen: One of those fast 30's movies like Chaplin or Harold Lloyd or the Cops one. Keystone. Buster Keaton. Ah... to wake up in the flat of a fellow architect... well, three architects, to be precise and, me.. the assistant. One book on the shelf: 10x10, chief editor 'Ilona' Iona; previous uni chum of my host. He hadn't previously realised. She was never much of a designer and now she has greater status than the rest of us put together. 'Morning' It's nearly lunchtime. All the taxis pass in the wrong direction. It is suggested that I've had one too many after my first Vodka and Red Bull at the Scotsman (heh! Forget Indiekid! I got the dissolute look to perfection! (kinda dusty and unshaven: sturdy blue-black cloth to my '60's suit jacket; falling apart) so I head off to the Palm Court bar at the Balmoral instead, via Waterstones' in order to pick up a copy of Evelyn Waugh's *Vile Bodies* which is more modernist; less elegiac than *Brideshead*. Maybe I shoulda tried Honeyz Bar. Then the theatre. I get to the Lyceum only to find my ticket is for the Playhouse: two miles away and about 500 yards from the Balmoral. Pah! Dancing. Funky stage set by Zaha Hadid and more rich electronic dub music. The dancers, at certain points, seemed to almost become the shifting arcs of the set, and there were video projections too, both magnifying and variously re-configuring the dancers and their context: the theme was 'Metapolis' : the pursuit of city, to construct one of severally similar possible etymologies. Afterwards, I met a girl who said.. 'I've known you for like, five minutes and it's obvious you're really depressed'. Perhaps I should have replied: 'That's because I can't kiss you'. But, of course, I said no such thing. We parted. In my defence, I would say that one has to balance the awe of the unknown with a fidelity to competence. Being incompetent in most areas of life, however, I'll stick with the strange; the new; the unknown... put it this way (this actually comes via a series of discussions with the ... whatever What if we were at the very beginning of human history and not compelled towards the detailed resolution of its imminent demise? Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Aug 26 13:18:38 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:18:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Craggy Message-ID: <3B88E91E.23D98318@netscapeonline.co.uk> Erm... apologies to P.S. like this, but I've just been reading through the last few days posts and, well, I mentioned how beautiful I found Gneissy's post in #sinister, but not here. I was at a few discussions at the Royal Fine Art Comission for Scotland last week: evidently, topsoil is one of our most precious resources and so the idea arose as to why not revive a 19th Century plan to leave the grass alone and build a tall village on these rocky Craigs? Would people jump from the windows of these super-elevated tower blocks, or merely look down over the rest of us burghers? Last time I was up there was with a bunch of people around 4am by a lochan with a bottle of mead. I've run up and around it and this mass of rock: how psychologically complex its surfaces? The aspiration latent in its height: heightened sensibilities and the concepts relating to Nietszche's superman or the profound abyss of vertical extent... More than anything, I suppose it was the simply described facts in Will's posts that I found so deeply moving. Oh... and salutations to Kirsten's field and Idle's story. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 16:39:18 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:39:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Red Pants Day Picnic Message-ID: <000001c12e45$48209300$48b77ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Pardon me for interrupting. REPORTING BACK >From the opposite end of the age spectrum. Yesterday's picnic was held in Regents Park on a hammeringly hot day so we sat in the dappled shade of a tree near the camel & llama enclosure. About 40 people turned up, I think. Sally, Lucy, Liz and Carey (lovely surprise to see her!) all proved that they were honouring the day correctly at various points through the day. Not me though: the maroon ones I wore for last year must have, er, shrunk in the wash or something as I couldn't manage to get them on comfortably. Elena wore a stunning top, and the girls practised hip-swinging walks to the loos & back. We listened to B&S live, The Loving Spoonful, the Eurosexuals (or would have done if the CD could have got past the 58 second mark), The Aislers Set, & the Moldy Peaches (I think - anyway, one of those bands you young people like nowadays) As I sit here listening to Belle and Sebastian and writing to the Sinister list whilst drinking coffee from a B&S Girl Reclining mug, I can't recall what I said when interviewed by the R1 researcher with the lovely smile who came along with Carsmile to collect material for her piece on fans. I'm certain it was bollocks though, so luckily it won't be broadcast. I wonder how we compared to the Manics fans she met last? What else can I remember now? Elena's story of her Papa being covered in llama spit when she was four, Lucy admiring Marks's meat & one veg up the leg of his shorts (Carey saw too), girls laying on the grass posing for early 90's indie band cover shots, goats, emus, sheep and an elephant, the lunatics playing football, (afterwards Peter Carter looked like he was going to have a heart attack & Robbo's veins stood out on his forehead like one of those transformation sequences in a horror film)and the birds getting restless as the sun began to set. (Epecially a great big one that looked like a toucan.) Others reporting for duty: Le Troussé, 2 Polish girls whose names I don't know how to spell, picnic uncle Cabbage, Robbo, Richard, PeetSketchSteve, Paul Field, Mike Winship, aSm & some cult leader bloke. (Bless you!) Lilly 96 attended via the phone from his lonely satellite picnic in Kelvingrove park. (Aaah!) Then off for the ride in aircon comfort listening to S Club 7 & Ronan whilst adjusting our makeup to The Betsey Trotwood for TIGERMILKING where DJ's Cabbage, Casarotto, Lixibell & Lucy did their utmost to keep the dancefloor filled. Mark I hope you reached the magic 42 people break-even number. Here Archel, Matt and Chris Butler/Señor Droolcup joined the throng. Star-shaped velcro hairslides were in vogue, people danced like loons to Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie & other hits & I wondered what kind of perverse snobbery made me not rate Dexy's Midnight Runners at the time. Apologies to all those particiPants whose names I forgot or don't know. OTHER STUFF How completist do you guys want to get? There's a Shoeshine Records sampler (only £1.99) available with a bonus cut "You Don't have To Cry" (Gene Clark, who is as we all know the 22nd GREATEST SONGWRITER IN POP HISTORY) by Frank "Jackson" Blake (Norman Blake, Stevie Jackson & Francis Macdonald) - see here: http://www.shoeshine.co.uk/Sampler.htm & you can get Stevie Jackson's version of Future Pilot aka's Beat Of A Drum from the Domino site here: http://www.dominorecordco.com/sounds/futu_beat.mp3 Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 16:45:39 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:45:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's reet goood darn sarth. London like! Message-ID: There I was,waiting half awake in St Pancras watching the people doing their stuff, A single pidgeon bravely strolled up to me and looked deeply in to my eye's (and I back into his), what I saw was a bird with problem's, a bird who worked/shat on people all the hour's god sent to support his wife and nest of 17 pidgeon children, so being as my newly purchased french stick was looking less appealling by the minute I tossed him a little sample to try. Well you should have seen those little eye's light up! Of course now he'd worked out where breakfast,Lunch and three course dINNER were coming from and there was no chance of him leaving me be. Well, like I say he was very grateful of the meal and hopped up on the bench next to me to have a chat,it went a bit like this..... Feathered friend = "so me ol' cocker, where you from? 'cos you obviously ain't a Landaner" James = "yes that's right, Im just visiting London this weekend Im from Leicester ,I've had rather good time really" Feathered friend = "well let me give you some advice, if you're looking for a good night out then you ought to pop in The Betsy Trotwood. I could'nt believe what I'd heard, word's from a bird. WOW. If anyone should know London I suppose it would be a pidgeon. But yes it's true Betsey Trotwood was absolutely fantastic Don't really know what to say,other than it was so good to put some name's to face's, Oh and I'd better warn people about some beer's with funny name's "Waggledance" and "Orangeyboom" for instance. cos I was sick as a dog and it had me sitting around like a zombie for an hour or so. I so felt better toward's the last hour or so with an excellent soundtrack of Electrelane,Mint Royal,Belle and Sebastian(oh really)and lot's of people I can't think the name's of right now. The atmoshere in the place when "Boy with the..." came on was just lovely. A very big thanQ to Ben. who sorted out the part of my trip I'd not paid much attention to.... ....Somewhere to stay. Ben's house is now rated at NUMBER ONE IN MY LIST OF SINISTER CRASH OUT SPOT'S. Beating Chris Jones's blow up matteress by a point or so, but only due to the luxury of a double bed. Although Ben would certainly have ran away with the title had he taken a leaf from Chris's book, by serving me a RIBENA and crisp's breakfast. Looking forward to Friday's going's-on, if they still are. and as always..... ....If you've read this FAR then you're an absolute STAR. James Some of this post is actually based on reallity +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From burgr at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 17:35:08 2001 From: burgr at xxx.com (Ben Chess) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Nice B&S boy looking for place to crash after SF concert Message-ID: Hi trusty sinistereens, Ok, I'm a little crazy. The plane ticket from Detroit to San Fran on September 8 is about $240. I promised myself that when B&S came to the US, I'd fly out to see them, whereever they might be. And fortunately plane fare is pretty cheap right now, I might just be crazy enough to do it. I want to, at least... :) But as a college student I'm still trying to keep the price of this adventure low. Unfortunately my UC Santa Cruz friend just got enrolled at USC in LA this week, which leaves me without a place to stay. If there is anyplace I could crash, perhaps a Co-op? I live in a co-op here in Ann Arbor and I love it. A friend said there was a really nice vegetarian co-op in SF with nice kids, but the name escapes me now.... Ohhhhhhh, I'm sorry for rambling. But if anyone could donate a little floor space somewhere in San Fran to lay my sleeping bag after whatiknowwillbe a super B&S concert, my heart would be filled with gratitude! Rubber duckies, Ben +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 21:22:23 2001 From: CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com (CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:22:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: A Belle and Sebastian Ticket!! LA show! Message-ID: HELLO! I have a Belle and Sebastian ticket available for the LA show, Sept. 6. E-mail me off list if your interested in buying it for the list price, no overcharging like the fans seem to be doing on ebay! BYE! Rachel Cornflake P.S. I'll be back.......hopefully with pictures of Isobel's bum...... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brett6 at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 10:35:14 2001 From: brett6 at xxx.com (Brett Smith) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:35:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Smiths Strikes Back!!!!!! References: <20010824082216.45870.qmail@web9207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c12e12$68cae160$7c7779d5@ainsdaleclose> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby C" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: Sinister: The Smiths Strikes Back!!!!!! > to indie kids and non-indie kids.... > whatever...who care? > > I ve read an article, on Dazed and Confused, bout the > misunderstood Latino youth (in LA) who love The Smiths > and reckon Moz as their role model....this is now two > thousand and one now, man... i hope i can join one of > them too.... if this is not a Latino-only thing... > Dirty Jeans and Mournful looks are taking over Sunset Boulevard!!!??? Cool!!!! I suppose though to be fully accepted you'd have to keep up on whole Manchester meets Santa Monica thing! Especially the masterful Spanish cover version of Everyday is like Sunday 'Todo es Igual Siempre' by Mikel Erentxun. All together now!!!! """Todo es Igual Siempre..... Todo es (silent and grey)""" - my Spanish is too crap to continue! > And I bought Luna's Live album (released few months > ago, when the Galaxie 500 tribute album was > released)too. good old Dean sung Galaxie 500 tune > again... > it toke the heat off me for a while. > > I am in a band right now... playing bass and writing > songs. I ve 2 song now.... and one of them is called > "Jellyfish" (or "Jellyfish's Dream")with a line > "I live my life in my mobile home"... does this line > make any sense to u native english speaker? > vaguely I suppose - It sounds a bit like an Oasis lyric or something - which is either good or bad depending on you point of view! > I am trying to fill the lyrics in Cantonese (the > language we speak in Hong Kong) ...but it is so damn > hard coz Cantonese is a nine Tonal Lauguage. > > ihope i can play like Naomi Yang. > I wish I had Naomi Campbel's money! > Simians rules! I agree, though looking at Marky Mark it was hard to see the difference! > Toby > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csf at xxx.com Sun Aug 26 23:35:22 2001 From: csf at xxx.com (Colin Ferguson) Date: 26 Aug 2001 22:35:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: glasgow university Message-ID: <20010826223522.11788.qmail@mail.claramail.com> i've been on this list for nearly two years now, and i must have posted three times. i guess that makes me a terrible lurker: i'm sorry. the purpose of this post is a very selfish one. i'm starting at the university of glasgow this autumn, and i don't know anyone else who is going, and since i'll be living away from home, this scares me quite a bit. so, i was wondering if anyone else on the list is in a similar postion, they might give me a line, and we could possibly arrange a meet-up of some sort. thanks ps: i'm not a right-wing fanatic: the signature is a simpsons quote. just in case anyone got the wrong idea. -- "This money isn't real. It's printed by the Montana Militia." "Oh, don't worry, it'll be real soon enough." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Aug 27 00:27:33 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:27:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I love Llew. See? Message-ID: <20010826232733.46810.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com> ******** GOVERNMENT WARNING ******** Recent posts have been found to contain near-toxic levels of Ken Chu. Sinister health officials recently issued a warning about excessive intake of Ken Chu. Their findings indicate that repeated exposure to Ken Chu can lead to heightened sexual desire in both men & women as well as increased red bull levels. They also believe that recreational use of Ken Chu leads to harder levels of DDR. It is recommended that frequent users quit Ken Chu immediately or switch to a less harmful alternative such as unsaturated Laura Llew. For your own safety this post has been certified Ken Chu free. ************************************* Hello... Another weekend, another ace pic-a-nic. I very nearly melted in the baking heat of a Regents Park summer. No wonder the camels nearby looked happy. I was pretty amazed anyone could manage to play football for more than six seconds without collapsing or exploding. I effectively avoided the Radio1 researchers who obviously recognised my absolute terror at the sight of DAT recorders with big microphones. Kudos to all those who committed their voices to tape. Tigermilking was similarly oven-like. I stayed for a couple of cracking sets from Lixi and Lucy and danced like the drunken pixie I usually turn out to be - fantastic! Alas, the last train waits for no man so I had to leave early dash back to Waterloo in time to get home and sleep forever. BIG SHOUTS AAAHT (like they say on Radio1) TO... Mark C, Mark H, James, Carsmile, Sam and his bionic knee, Peter&Kara, PriscillaStrawberriesAndCreamGirl, Ola, K_____*, Starry and everyone else who I can't remember or whose name I've forgotten and I'm too emabrrassed to admit it. I'm your fan Robsterrr http://robster75.tripod.com *obscured on health advice ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Mon Aug 27 09:53:31 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:31 +200 Subject: Sinister: sinister: well well well... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: aha! so rachel cornflake promises to return with pic's of isobel's bum? so now all will be revealed (or is that too much, or WAY TOO MUCH to hope for, if you catch my drift - no, probably not, being obscure again, sorry... OOH, LOOK AT THE TIGER!!! good ole africa, always good for a distraction when you get in a sticky spot. (for the pedantic amongst you, yes, i am just pulling your socks, and no, there aren't any tigers in africa.) sorry, just realized i haven't said anything worthwhile, and so must remember to edit. the joys of logorrhea... well, exciting things here is that today seems to be the first day of spring, all toothpaste-fresh blue skies and happiness (for the happy few of course - being single and sortof pseudo-indie, i'll just do what i always do: mope in my bedroom with music on and a book, i think). ANYWAY, that aside was completely besides the point, so please ignore. what d'you mean, too late already? in a way i'm a little peevish about the springiness, not because of any innate surliness, but because it means saturday will be less perfect than i'd imagined (duh!!!) - saturday being sept.1 which in the southern hemisphere is spring day (as well as start of term at hogwarts, school for wizarding!). so, the plan is, friday night, get wine, friends, crepe paper and wire, fold LOADS of little bright paper flowers, and plant them all the grass of campus before sunrise. (I think i'm getting this twee thing down pat!) well, that's that - will just sit down and revel in my exoticism for a while, then. to all you picnickers: i'm so jealous i could... well, turn really resentful really!!! love JohaN ps. thanks to jeremy, steve and everyone else who's mailed me. it is sorely appreciated. and of course to nisie: make yourself heard, girl, it's not so bad (i can only talk about sending of course - apologies to the receivers) pps happy birthday sinister ppps [tentatively, in a little mousy voice, almost not daring to whisper it:] "ken chu?" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annamills at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 12:25:24 2001 From: annamills at xxx.com (Anna) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:25:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister References: <200107312357.AAA17650@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000001c12ef1$8cab09e0$25927ad5@default> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 13:51:47 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:21:47 +0930 Subject: Sinister: pieces of eight Message-ID: Ahoy, me hearties! I�m sorry; I don�t know what came over me just now. I think having this blasted parrot about the place has affected me somewhat. Miss Madeleine of Leicester said: �Now, I set the parrot free and send him on his way across a million miles of ocean to Sir David of Stankin Cooter (apologies to slang-sensitive Americans out there). Sir D, the parrot is all yours. Stick him in a pie and eat him for all I care :)� It was a long flight for the poetry parrot, but he did eventually arrive, albeit in a foul temper. Given his initially truculent demeanour, I was tempted to stick him in a pie, but frankly, I didn�t like the look of him too much. Besides which, I�m yet to figure out how my oven works, despite the fact that I moved in months ago. I�m almost tempted to figure it out, though, as this parrot has taken to perching on my shoulder and repeating rude things to people�s faces that I�ve said about them when their backs were safely turned. I think he might be related to Aunt Sadie. And Miss Madeleine, don�t you know that I�m afraid of birds? I get a little shiver every time I see their twitchy head-movements, and their sharp beaks and beady eyes make me feel all soft and vulnerable. A friend of mine once touched a duck, and then touched my beer, and I refused to finish it, for fear that I�d catch something horrible. Feathers may as well be custom designed to collect germs. Oh yes, I�m afraid of germs as well. And birds are directly descended from dinosaurs, you know! And if television has taught me anything, it�s that Dinosaurs are pure evil, and crave human flesh. Except for that really cool one in the Herculoids that shot rocks out of his horn, or whatever it was. In any case, I�ve almost gotten used to having this parrot around; an increasing tendency to launch into an extremely unconvincing pirate schtick is about the only negative side effect I�ve noticed. Oh, and I�ve a posted a number of times already, but I never really did the whole introduction thing, so now might be as good a time as any to get that out of the way. My name�s David, as Miss Madeleine rightly points out, although I�m not a real �Sir�. I�m also not a real �Werther�, though there are listees that choose to call me that, for reasons best known to themselves. I live in Adelaide, and design videogames for a living, which isn�t very twee. I�m sorry. I drink too many gin and tonics, and talk altogether too much nonsense. I also spend perhaps a little too much time in #sinister, so you should come and visit me there, if we�ve not already met. There. That�s a bit of a relief, actually; at least I�ll not have to sign off these emails as �Stankin� anymore. There�s a story behind that email address, though it�s a very long and uninteresting one, that I�ll not bore you with here. I will, however, add my apologies to those of the lovely Miss Madeleine to any slang-sensitive American listees. It�s not an email address I ever intended to send mail from. On top of which, I was originally told that this was a far more obscure slang term than I�m now, more reliably, informed that it is. Please let me know if you�re REALLY offended; I can always go through the nursery again, and come back with a more suitable identity. Will Porter said: �OOh speaking of bands, do you all love Call and Response? You ought to.� Call and Response are the poo, and I�d very much like to second Will�s recommendation. The album is currently jostling for position in the ranks of the best few albums I�ve purchased all year. I�ve not played it to anyone who hasn�t loved it. It�s jaunty, swoon-inducing, driving-with-the-roof-down music that�s sure to float your boat. While on the subject of music, I had the good fortune to see Simpatico and Sodastream play on Friday night, and I loved both acts unreservedly. I suspect that many of you would too. Simpatico (who is Jason Sweeney, of Pretty Boy Crossover and Sweet William fame) played some new material from his forthcoming record, which sounded absolutely top-hole. He finished his set with a cover of Puff the Magic Dragon, which was an inspired choice, and at least twice as good as you�re imagining. Sodastream were breathtaking, and also have a new record that I think they said would be out this week � I�ve not heard it yet, but if the songs they played live (or the three songs that were on the free sampler they were giving out) are any indication, it�ll be an absolute corker. Jenowl said: �When I read peoples posts out in my head I read them in a scottish voice. Does that mean that someone reads out my post in their head in a different voice?� Now that�s grand. I�ve got an oddly mixed accent myself, but I don�t read other people�s posts in it, I read each post with a made up accent, that I imagine the poster would have. I�m not very good with accents, so I�m almost certainly pretty far wide of the mark in all cases, but it amuses me greatly. Whoever it was that had Ken Chu down as Mojo Jojo is a genius. I never read Ken�s posts like that before, but I will from now on. I couldn�t possibly be more down with the cartoon character = listee equation, though: I always hear Laura Llew�s posts as if they were read by Penelope Pitstop. Now, how about that poem, parrot? I�ve had it explained to me that the current state of the archives has had something of an effect on the long-term memory of this bird, and he can�t remember where he�s been, or what poems he�s squawked. Given that this is the case, he�s asked me to pass on a pre-emptive apology if he�s already shared this one with you. He may have, as it�s probably one of the more obvious choices, given that it features a fox in the snow. It�s one of his favourites, though, and is a lovely, tight little poem about being visited by the Muse. The Thought Fox I imagine this midnight moment's forest: Something else is alive Besides the clock's loneliness And this blank page where my fingers move. Through the window I see no star: Something more near Though deeper within darkness Is entering the loneliness: Cold, delicately as the dark snow, A fox's nose touches twig, leaf; Two eyes serve a movement, that now And again now, and now, and now Sets neat prints into the snow Between trees, and warily a lame Shadow lags by stump and in hollow Of a body that is bold to come Across clearings, an eye, A widening deepening greenness, Brilliantly, concentratedly, Coming about its own business Till, with sudden sharp hot stink of fox It enters the dark hole of the head. The window is starless still; the clock ticks, The page is printed. -Ted Hughes There, now get out of here, and go and crap on someone else�s carpet for a bit. I think I�ll send you off in the direction of the inimitable and very lovely Miss Julie of Cyberglam. Apologies if you�ve been there already, but if you can�t remember, you�ve got no one to blame but yourself, you daft bird. I�ll forego my customary apology for the length of this post, and instead insist that each and every one of you takes nothing but the very best of care. Stay indulgent but guilt-free. Bulk love, -David. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 15:56:56 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:56:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Great Lakes Picnic Instructions Message-ID: Okay, Sinister children of the Great Lakes area, as you may (or should by now) know, the First Sinister Great Lakes Picnic is going to happen on September 1st, that's 6 days and counting. Anyways, some good news and some bad news. Good news is I know at least eight or nine of us are going to be there without a doubt, maybe more if they can make it. More good news is that Ribena and Red Bull will be served. Slight bad news, I don't know how many were planning on doing an overnight thing, but I had mentioned that we might make a camp out after the picnic proper to chat and drink and such, camping out is good, especially when drinking, especially as we don't have the good fortune to have public transportation in this country that can carry our liquered up selves home. Sadly, being the Labour Day weekend, most of the campgrounds are either full up or near full up. The only choice for people who'd want to stay and have a drink up would be to get a hotel room and crash on floors (which could be rather cheap if there are several of us, and I'm not at all opposed to sleeping on floors), but I'm not sure what the group thought is. Anyways, let's just keep the mad all-night drink up as a possibility and concentrate on the picnic. I figure we should all meet in South Bend, Indianna at around 1pm - 2pm, some of us are driving a rather long way, so this should give us time to make sure everyone arrives (remember, Labour Day weekend traffic sucks). Directions below provided by a fellow listee: It is called Leeper Park and it is just on the south side of the Saint Joseph river off of Business 31. Take US 31 south and turn right on either Riverside Drive or Park Lane, the first and second rights respectively. At the point where Park Lane deadends into N. Lafayette there is a tennis center and that would be a dandy place to meet up. People could even bring rackets if they fancied a game. Detailed neighborhood map: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn/twn-map_results&zoom_level=10&uid=u7563bubab.9c2lb:2lhrrngz1x&aphoto=0&SNVData=3mad3-h.fy%28w205y8_%29rzldu8%3bah7-%3d%5b2xu6_nlur%5dNDSQJN%2b%13AD%24%2bEB%10VV%2bPMWQ%24%2bK%11%24%2bF%15%28_%3d%3a%10F%3dw20h02_%29rzlqft_1.lq%286,qej%7cynbgmej,fwgf-d.mj72s-%5bub2u%3d2x9w%5dCJDWM%14%2bVBJ%40%2bFXGMP%2bVSRI%40%2bJW%40%2b%11E&pcat=&zlgif.x=1 Map of SB and the I-80/US 31 exchanges could be found by zooming out on this map Please check Yahoo maps or map quest if you have any further questions on how to get there, or contact me and I will relay your questions. Just to make it clear; we will be meeting up at the tennis center in Leeper Park. Look for me, I'll be driving a blue Achieva and wearing an orange Isobel & Fox B&S shirt. 5'7", short spikey hair and an idiot's grin with black rimmed glasses. See a piccy of me (as well as a few from B&S gigs) at: http://photos.yahoo.com/jgilmer2001 I won't be that hard to recognize. Anyone who wants to bring snacks, food, drink, whatever is welcomed and encourage. Musical instruments are also strongly encouraged (and if I could play it worth a damn I'd bring my 12-string) and anything/anyone else you'd like to bring is more than welcome. Any questions, comments, thoughts, spare change, et al, are more than welcome and appreciated. Drop me a line if you can make it or if you have questions. Hope to see you all there (at least all the Great Lakes people) Jim "Being clever's a fine thing, but sometimes a boy just has to get out and meet girls" - Grant Morrison _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 15:32:09 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Case Of the Runaway Thread : Part 8 Message-ID: <20010827143209.81112.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> The evening air grew chillier as Comaboy hurried along 34th Street and he dug his hands further into the pockets of his battered old duffel coat. The purple flashing neon lights of Honeys Bar stung his eyes as he approached. They should never have let that cowboy firm of decorators 'Jenowls' do the interior design. Even the toilet water now had a sickly purple hue. Comaboy paused at a nearby newspaper stand to pick up the latest Sinidigest and was greeted by shocking developments. ***EVIL CHU GANG STRIKE AGAIN IN TREE-SEX HORROR*** The grip of evil Dr Chu on this fair city tightened again last week as the villanous gang turned their attentions to the vice trade. Several witnesses saw the crimnal genius mastermind posing for a series of sickening photgraphs involving innocent shrubbery. Two camels and an anteater were rushed to hospital after Saturdays incident and police say they are stepping up efforts to bring 'Don Chu' to justice.... Comaboy couldnt bring himself to read anymore. The indie shchmindie case was still not solved and the narrator was running out of ideas. Where was Idles when you needed her? Fooling around with that scoundrel Murdoch no doubt. Comaboy sighed as he strode up to Honeys bar. He passed a drunken looking dame sprawled on the pavement outside, muttering to herself. "You okay?" he growled. The girl just burbled back at him something about Honey having it in for her and frankly being a bore. Comaboy should have known. It was thatIsabel Lark, still hanging around after all this time. She was one crazy lady. Sidestepping the drunken figure,Comaboy walked into the welcoming warmth and winked at Aunt Sadie. Sure she didnt have much between the ears but for an old dame, she was kinda cute. Refusing the offer of a double ribena (Comaboy had been on the wagon for several years and he sure as hell wasnt gonna star again now) he stuck with his usual gin and went to sit by the window. It was a Tuesday so Sam was back on the piano, banging out 'We Rule The School' with those crazy crutches of his. Comaboy sat back and reflected on the whole situation. Honey was still holed up in France, Idles hadnt been seen in days and the evil Chu gang was growing every day. What was needed was another appearance from V-Bird. She seemed to know what was going on in a cryptic round about kind of way, and that hampster of hers still owed him $25. Comaboys daydreaming was cut short as the whole bar seemed to go silent. He looked round and was greeted by a disturbing sight. That slinky walk, that can of Red Bull permanantly being swigged.It could only be one person. The whole of Honeys bar seemed frozen to the spot. Comaboy prayed for a miracle.... TO BE CONTINUED... PS : I had a lovely time at the picnic on Saturday even if i didnt say much. Thanks to stevie trousers for making sure i didnt get lost on the way home :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 16:24:51 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:24:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away? Message-ID: As Mr. Ned Steadman - my chemistry teacher in high school - used to say, "It's not what you say it's how you say it." Of course, he also used to say, "There's no such thing as a stupid question except for the one that isn't asked" until I came along. After that it was: Me: Can I ask a dumb question? Mr. Steadman: Like nobody else, Laura. Like no one else... I value sincerity and integrity (which is the real reason I like when boys call me beautiful. I appreciate honesty.) so much more than someone's taste in music or literature or flavor of hot chocolate that I'm having trouble following this Indier than Thou thread. Personally, I've found the best thing is to find someone who doesn't like music that much. That way they don't really care what you play on roadtrips as long as it doesn't give them a headache. Oh sure you don't have anyone to trade cds with but that's what Transatlantic Mix Tape Challenges are for! Plus, I thought the cool thing in Indieville these days was self depreciating humor and insecurity. Not that I would know about that kind of thing since I'm rather daft. If you stand me, you can hear the ocean. My fellow (and adored) southerner, Matthew Henderson, keeps speaking my heart. His subject line of "Life in a Southern Town" got me to thinking (scary prospect I know) about my own little town here. When I was talking to an old co-worker about what she was up to these days she told me she was starting Cosmetology School soon and said that perhaps she'd be able to cut my hair someday. I discovered I indeed live in one of those warped quirky southern towns when I realized that I was thinking, "I had to testify as to your character after you ran a high school teacher over and dragged them halfway up Pendleton street on the hood of your car AS IF I'm going to let you near my head with anything sharp." Of course, I need to take some kind of solace in my place in life now that I've realized that I'm an abomination in the sight of Will Porter. It's a tragedy indeed. Well, Madeleine, I don't know about your foray into the world of Librarianism and a constant case of the sniffles. However, I have a suggestion of utter clutzyness if you were to decide to become a bookshop girl instead. I didn't find any problem adjusting to this at all as I believe the key is making an utter fool of yourself. The other day I was trying to walk in between the small space between the service counter while carrying a rather large and unweildy box. I was trying to figure out how to fit both of us through while trying different approaches but to no avail. I kept almost knocking things off - that's when I heard someone chuckling. I looked up to find a guy my age staring at me just LAUGHING as I had kept trying and retrying to fit though... He was waiting to buy a book so I set my box down and started to ring him up when my glasses which had somehow found their way pushed up on top of my head (instead of perched on my nose) started to tilt. So, I decided to take them off when they became tangled in my hair. Oh dear. So, I turned around - while blushing furiously - trying to get my glasses back from the grasps of my curls much to the amusement of this boy. He said something sympathetic like, "I hate it when that happens" which caused me to stare at his head which was very commpletly devoid of hair. INDEED - I'm sure that happens to baldy all the time! Yes, so get used to being laughed at and never being good enough for boys named Will. Somehow rejection hasn't been hard to acclimate myself to either. Of course, today I'm wearing my Myrna Minkhoff shirt and I feel Minxalicious. watch out boys*, Laura "meeting all dem der Laura Llew needs since 1977" *Mmm, that means that Billzebub & Jimmy G & Dreamy Breamy should all be waiting for me to harass them quite shortly. Muwahahaha. PS - I'm planning to make a trip up north in October. Sexpot Sauer - now that I know you have a feather bed up there at NYU expect to find me at some point sinking into it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 19:14:04 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:14:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We're turning into lamposts Message-ID: Happy birthday Sinister! It is today isn't it? Was it supposed to be a surprise? My girlfriend told me to write this. She also told me to write that she told me to write this. This post is going woewards. Well, she did tell me. I've been out. Which means that when I come back, I have one or two Sinister mails to catch up on. Poor structure. Correct tense. I've read them all now; I particularly liked the one that mentioned Ken Chu, however the person who sent it seemed to make an error, as it appeared 131 times in my inbox. Careful with that 'send' button kids, you never know what might I jest. I always fill in the address last. Sometimes I don't even know the address. But if I send a card marked Cole fan Blackheath London Will they know which one? LLOYD PORTER, SALLY BROOKER, A BUNDLE OF SONGS AND A HELL OF A LOOKER. I forgot to say that Gordon's posts were very good as well. Tailored to all our needs. It's at this point that I start to flag. Union blues. City. Please don't cry. Um... I'm off again soon. I shall be staying for a night or two near the Great Western Road, which is aptly named, I mean, it is great (well, it has the appropriate amount of 'grandiose' about it), it is western (in the context, at least, of Scotland and Glasgow) and most importantly it is a road. Correctness is a commodity too often overlooked these days. One day I'm going to write a book called HOW TO LIVE AN ACCURATE LIFE. Ill gt a man i'n to corect the mitakes. I hear that Mr Harry is moving there, to live, like. It was Mr Harry, wasn't it, or is my ailing memory failing again? Or is my failing memory ailing? Or is my flailing memory derailing? And so on. Anyway, one of these days I might Hunt Him Down. Aeons ago, Kristen wrote: one might imagine there to be something rather sexy about see-through corduroy pants, but there really isn't. And she's so wrong. I fear, however, that it is too late. Chu: And then after doing the rituals of my mum giving me a list of 350 things I need to do and 300 telephone numbers I have to phone up in 1 minute flat, and me doing those 750 things, Kenneth's degree was not in Mathematics. Don't all jump on him at once. PF: ALLY62 I have been chucking away bits of paper and writing poetry about it. ITV have got the footy. Are you worried? The answer is: vaguely. What bits of paper? 62? You're over my head again, mon. Geezer. MOTD Year 00, perhaps? I dinnae ken. Could it be that even Chu dinnae Ken? I'm afraid I have to leave. I'm afraid most of the time, being a Belle and Sebastian fan. The threat is constantly there - I mean, a new record could come out at any time. I'm joking. I think. I've just completed my life's work, btw. And still I haven't included everything I wanted to. Oh well. It comes in two parts. You have to have the first to understand the second, perhaps, and the other way round. It's all linked, see? It could be called something silly like Secrets Of The Heart. That would be the sub-heading. The real heading would be 1995-2001, The Best Of... I've just filled in the address. It's going to Maryhill. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 20:25:39 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Dahling) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:25:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A Greek Ink Polaroid Message-ID: Um, this isn't from me, so don't reply to my address. This post is from Miss Dahling [dahling at ismydarling.co.uk], who is (a) stuck in the nursery and (b) stuck in Athens. She would be out of the nursery by now because she's a previously-mature listee who has returned from beyond the seas; but she's not because Honey is on holiday. Honey: I hope you don't mind me doing this, but she promised she'd make up for it by being *extra* nice to you when she comes to visit. (oh, I had to think up the subject. Sorry, dahl, if you think it's crap. bye everyone, will) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [start reading here] Whatever happened to those verbal photographs? Mine would look like this, I suppose: There is a heat wave, and I defy it, going into the streets to escape the insufferable closeness of my fifth-floor apartment. Everything is closed. The shopkeepers are inside, huddled with their children around air conditioners like ovens. I pass a park where old men gather. They line up and jeer and I clench my fists and jaw in anger. I'm not particularly pretty, but it doesn't matter, because I am so obviously a foreigner, and therefore easy in their eyes. Water drips on the sidewalk from air conditioners overhead. Instead of avoiding the shower, I purposefully get wet. The droplets seem to sizzle for a second on my burning shoulders before evaporating. The heat, so loathsome before, now seems cozy. It tickles my skin and enfolds me in its embrace. Any embrace is welcome about now. Why am I here, where everyone is a stranger, where every glance is potentially lecherous and completely unwelcome? Once so full of ambition, I now spend my days in bed, my nights playing solitaire until my eyes hurt. And when I close them, I dream of people I have never met, but who would undoubtedly change my life forever. I head for the shade of a cafe. All around me, the cacophony of foreign sounds clouds my hearing. I imagine they are having very important conversations that I will never understand. Maybe they are exploring the meaning of life and, discovering it, will turn to share it with me, but it will fall on ignorant ears. But no, I understand some words. They are only discussing dinner, and the weather. The cafe is placed irreverently atop a metro stop. The tables shake as a train passes underneath and I wonder how this place became so popular. All the tables are full. People strain to be heard over the noise of the station. The sun beats down on the pavement, sending up heat waves that make everyone look hazy. I watch as couples meet, as parties take out their backgammon boards and teen girls try to mask their furtive glances. The men don't bother. They stare openly and plan their attacks. The waiters hang about listlessly and I imagine they are playing little games, trying to determine where everyone is from. A starving kitten sways under a table, unnoticed, except by an old man who clicks away on his beads and does not seem to care. A crazy man wearing only a pair of shorts and a two-prong beard runs down the street, attacking cars, and holds up two fingers at me. There is an accident and the old man is hit. He lies there, a little stunned, dead perhaps. No, he jumps up and resumes his ranting. I cry a little, despite myself. Maybe he's just trying to be understood but is not using the right words, like me. Maybe he is also lost, looking for love, or even a friend, in a foreign, uninviting land. Maybe he sees something others do not. Sometimes I think there is nothing more glorious in the Athenian summer than rain. I have never known such rain - so pure and cleansing. It comes in unexpected bursts, after weeks of searingly hot, sweaty dinginess, and gently rubs away all the filth. It pulls down the pollution and runs yellow from the sidewalks, collecting in the slick streets in great pools. People run outside to briefly take it all in, then run back inside a little wet, and laughing. It is over almost as suddenly as it began, leaving behind a freshness hard to describe - like breaking free from the inside of a car that has been collecting heat, ozone and a little exhaust for hours. You gasp in quick breaths and feel your pores opening to suck it all in. Okay, enough of that already. I hope you are all keeping yourself well-fed and slept and free of disease. Hospitals are no fun, especially for sensitive people who find themselves in foreign lands. I like seeing all these skinny sensitive boys transformed into sinister studs. I am too poor to buy Jonathan David. I am falling behind. But it doesn't bother me as much as it used to. I've been relating more and more lately to Aden's ``Scooby Doo.'' I suppose that makes me old, doesn't it? Hmm... Love and other indoor sports, Dahling +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Mon Aug 27 21:32:30 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:32:30 +0300 Subject: Sinister: The forest whispers my name Message-ID: <00b701c12f37$6649bda0$39facdd4@q2x8k0> I started writing this in the afternoon. I'll probably finish it just before dawn, it takes me hours to write something, to make it look like what I feel. It was a wearily hot and sunny afternoon, like all the others before it in the last four months. Summer here is endless... I started writing : "In June 1999 I was eighteen, and breaking up for the first time" -and that's were I stopped. What I wanted to say is: It wasn't the kind of a break-up that's the-end-you-can-see-coming-but-avoid-until-there's-nothing-you-can-do, or one that comes after slowly falling out of love... It was an end I felt like I had to put after I discovered he was feeling bored, but it was a sudden discovery: he was slightly bored for a month, then quite obviously bored for a week and that's when I decided I should give up, although I can assure you I was pretty much in love. To that day, I still think that was all I could do. So, I remember lying on my bed in my parents house the first noon after the last night with him, staring at the wall and the light coming through the window, feeling brave but sad and also trapped in my life with nowhere to go, and amazed of how quickly it all happened... When I noticed that on the wall, it read "All Farewells Should Be Sudden". It's not a magical wall, I had written it, but that was twenty-two months before and seemed like it was in another lifetime, when I still went to school, had never been in love and actually liked the Verve. Also a lifetime when I scrambled things on my bedroom walls with coloured chalks. This one was brown. It's supposed to be a Verve single or something, which I have never seen or listened to, I had just seen the a photo of the cover inside the sleeve of Urban Hymns and liked the way it sounded and felt. I felt....I felt a million things at once...surprised...but mostly, I felt alive and thrilled...it didn't make me feel less sad -actually it made me feel more sad- but at the same time I felt full of strength, ready to get up and walk to the edge of the world if I had to.... I didn't have to, and that's probably the worst thing about it, all I could do was lie down until most of the excitement went away -most, but not all, there was a little part that stayed with me and helped me with my life from then on. I still have it. When I sat down to write this again, it was windy, there was a sweet naughty south wind which made everything seem better. It was a promise of things changing -mainly of autumn coming. I always get excited when seasons change. It's something else that makes me feel alive too. When I started this paragraph I went outside to see if it was still windy. And I found out it was raining! It's more of a shower actually, but it's uplifting nevertheless. It's even more of a change, and also it's magical. I live on the fourth floor and from the balcony I could see the street shining wet under the orange lights and the moon behind the clouds, which was orange too. If you have never stayed in a greek city you probably can't imagine how it feels, cause I think nowhere else buildings are that ugly or nights that sweet. Nowhere I have been to at least. I will continue something Will started. Your life might not be wonderful, but it should be filled with moments like these, with things that make you feel alive, or with songs that make you feel alive. Or at least it can be, believe me. I'm sorry, I can't come up with something better of a description than "feeling alive"...or, rather...my brother said the other day: "the forest whispers my name". You can insert whatever you want instead of forest, but I think it's a good for saying alive, thrilled, and feeling that you belong somewhere, even if it is in this insane world. As I wrote to someone the other day, I love the list, some days it gives me reasons to live for. It gives me moments like these. Like, reading that Richard -when he wasn't Richard but a random stranger- found a piece of paper under his bed which read "I want to be the hero of my own life". The poem Madeleine posted. Will's post, of course. Ken's last post, too. The "It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind" line repeated, and the stories about it. The quote James Glimmer ends his posts with. The way john john uses words. The way people use sinister related things in the case of a runaway thread story. Kirsten mentioned wanting to be somewhere else rather than where you are. I miss Scotland. Usually, I wish for Scotland rain, not just any rain. Because that's a place where I could have friends. Love,and keep the faith, Dimitra. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wmh74 at xxx.com Mon Aug 27 21:29:29 2001 From: wmh74 at xxx.com (William Harris) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:29:29 Subject: Sinister: Lions, and tickets, and Llew... oh my. Message-ID: Comrades, Having seen that another fellow lurker (Colin) had broken his self-imposed silence, I decided to follow suit and come off my pub stool and (re)introduce myself. Hello. Pleased to meet me*... oh. Uh. This isn't going so well is it? (Ms. Llaura Llew, please take notes here: is this sort of discomfort that makes one indie? I'll take it since my wardrobe fails miserably at that task). But down to business before I lose my entire audience. I *may* have an extra ticket to the Seattle show... ehem... (is this list abuse? sorry Honey) The extra I had bought was intended for a potential date, but as a select few on this list know, my attempt to emulate Dr. No failed miserably and said date ended up down the gullet of a shark. (A warning: do not take 1st dates into shark infested waters no matter what the "locals" say about their dining habits.) After having wrestled the shark onto the beach and then having performed an intricate procedure better left to your imagination to free said date from the shark's tummy, it was too late. Digestive juices and all that. I seem to have strayed off my original point. If anyone out there is interested, you can email me *off* this list and let me know if you'd like the have access to the ticket. Cute girls are encouraged to apply. I will inform the lucky winner some time in the next week or so (it'll be doled out on a first come, first served basis which sounds vaguely sexual but really isn't). I should also make it clear that I am only looking for the list price of the ticket. No profiteering on the beloved Belles here. Speaking of beloved, I am rapidly falling into serious swoonage for the adorable and pensive Gillian Welch. Her new album "Time (The Revelator)" is an absolute masterpiece. Yes. Masterpiece. Though a word of warning; it isn't indie or twee. That being said, however, I suspect fans of Nick Drake (circa "Pink Moon") might appreciate it. Buy it. Or don't. I will have the thrill of seeing her perform and spin yarns on Tuesday night. Yummy. In closing, I must say to Llew that not all Will's are terrible. Some of us are just terribly confused. Oh and shout out's to my homegrrrl Jerkgirl Jen who is busily slaving away in miserable conditions in a sullen record store. Please take a moment to remember those less fortunate in your prayers/thoughts/meditations/slack-jawed reverie. Thank all you for enduring my awkward rebirth into sinister. Hasta luego, The Other Will Harris (this is similar to, but not quite like, The Other White Meat) *Whatever happened to the big ball of love that were The Replacements? I refuse to say Ken Chu. Whoops. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 00:29:16 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:29:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Slightly mushy,cheesey love story Message-ID: <49.100ac768.28bc31cc@aol.com> Modern tecnology, eh! I've alway's thought of the internet as the future but I was in no rush to get on it myself, "not really my thing" I must have said a hundred times and so when we happened upon this computor last year I thought little of it really until I found this list. The friend's I've made are the people I never really beleived I'd find and it show's that I'm not just odd, I don't mean sinister is odd I just mean that when you are the only person like you then you feel odd and so you try to combat the lonelyness by being someone else, someone that fit's in to the generally accepted lifestyle of the average 18 year old. Funny really how I came to be here mind. I, like many people had never heard of B&S until Legal man was on top of the pop's and I liked it alot but then it went away and I was doing other stuff so . Then about five month's ago after work I'm running up the stair's of Virgin megastore, the Word's Belle and Sebastian just stood out, like 20 yard's away and I had a quick look and bought it. Right now, I genuinely rate picking up Tigermilk as one of the best thing's I've ever done for all the pleasure that first Album gave me and for the people I've met since due to Sinister. I love you all as much as Stella Artois. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dylan at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 03:16:56 2001 From: dylan at xxx.com (Dylan Gordon) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:16:56 -0600 Subject: Sinister: my little lamb keeps it's pants on Message-ID: <09ec01c12f67$834d4220$a2cc4418@dgup> Hey All, I figured maybe since I'm up out of the nursery I should write something. Actually, it was that last message about how puddle-wonderful this list and everyone on it is that made me think I should write something. Can't miss out on that! Does anyone else love e.e. cummings? I think he's the real lyrical genius behind Belle and Sebastian, dead or not. I just woke up from my three-hour post 'they were supposed to show my house so I sat around in the park for 45 minutes' nap. I'm reading Richard Ford's Independence Day, the 1/3 after the first 1/4, which consists mostly of whining about the 'Existence Period' (see 40 - 50 year-oldish angst about the meaningless of post-divorce, post-self-anihilation life). The major thrust in this seems to be the search for something to pass the time with, but I think I've got it at the ripe age of 21. Sleep. Plenty of it. And a daily obsession with how I'm going to start a new career soon, but just how I'm going to, not actually doing to. The only reason I can even do is that I worked in computers for a long time and made a little bit of money and can spend at least a few months doing absolutely nothing but spending it, after which I'm sure I'll feel like a huge waste and wish I had all of that time and money back, but for the moment in the middle of it it's going OK. I think it's all the listening to Belle and Sebastian and going to concerts and thinking I'm an indie kid when I couldn't possibly be because I can't spend more than 45 minutes in an independent record store without going nutso watching vinyl fanaticism that inevitably ends in someone picking up some total tripe they think is cool but really shows their inate lack of taste. Oh oh. Maybe I am an indie kid (You'll have to give me some time, I can't work in list-fodder smoothly and with the obvious, dripping sarcasm required for the 'net yet). Anyway, the point is other people's melancholies give me something to be pissy about part of the time and it's keeping me alive with only 12 hours sleep per day. Umm. Now something so I don't give everyone the immediate impression I'm some weird guy-bitch, because I'm really, really not, I'm actually really nice and lovely and cuddable, but not twee at all like Isobel. Just cuddable. But Isobel is my wallpaper anyway. Let's see. . .I wish I had pink bedsheets. I went shopping for sheets and covers and shams and all that stuff a few weeks ago, because I really do need some new ones, and saw these lovely stripey pink bedsheets that I just totally must have for when pink makes its big comeback and takes the fashion world by storm so that I'm so hip it even makes me want to cry because I wish I was more like me. But then I got to thinking that I'm going to need to paint to do that, to make the illusion complete y'know, and then I'm moving soon, and maybe I want a loft, and it would have to be _all_ pink and I'd need new accessories! And it snowballed from there until I even put back the towels I picked out because of bathroom-decor angst and I'm stuck towel-low and sheet-less, crying in my backdoor and waiting for the garbage man to take me to the dump. Not really. But I'm sure you know the feeling, ahaha. And now my nap-delusion is wearing thin and I'm really not feeling terribly sparky and creative, plus I have all these unattended social engagements I've been shirking _just_ to write this email (well, 10 minutes worth of one of them anyway, plus the 60 I saved up napping). So I'm going to sign off and wait for my t-shirt to come in the mail and hope that everyone has something marvellously witty and amusing to say so when I end up back here at home in 4 or 6 or 8 hours as the sun comes up I can chuckle and go to bed a happy man. Yrs, dg +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Aug 28 05:42:44 2001 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:42:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: made-up dreams Message-ID: <001301c12f7b$e1270c00$ef551198@wfu.edu> hi, this isn't a good night. i'm just, well, sad. the causes of my sorrows are long and boring, but the most recent one occurring last week when i turned 21. i feel so old. i was more depressed than happy on my birthday. i sometimes think my parents should have explained to me, when i was younger, that things grow old, things die, and things go away. one of my best friends from long ago died in a car crash last month, and my brother in law died too. i just wish someone would have told me that there are things that are so sad and so painful. i guess it's because my parents don't have any answers. they're dealing with it too. hm. i'm a senior now (at wake forest university...i'm still waiting for another wake person to be on this list..sigh) and i look at the freshmen and think how incredibly puerile they all look. it's laughable. i find myself saying things like "when i was your age" and "back when i was __, i did __". now i know what many of you may be thinking..."i'm 27. don't tell me about being old". i've always thought i was somewhat accelerated in this emotional development department. as in, i think i'm going through coupland's mid-20s crisis now. yep, a little early. other than that, i think i'm in love with audrey hepburn. this is a good crush for me because i don't think audrey will ever turn me down. of course, she's just a photo or a frame, so that's not much to comfort. and with that, i must retire. love blake the nerdy shy eyed pacifist http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout aol IM: fatelwood (if anyone wants to discuss audrey hepburn movies...i'm such a sucker) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 06:54:04 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:54:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oh dear Message-ID: <7579A2D9E6B95D1168360005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> Tonight I was drunk and out for a cup of coffee, and not five minutes after had I settled down with my sketchbook, a little high- school girl rushed over to my table. "Hi, my name is Katie," she said and smiled. I looked up from my book and eyed the girl, a skinny blonde with hollow cheeks and red- rimmed green eyes. She leaned forward expectantly. "Hello, Katie." I looked back to my book. I had lots of work to do... "Well?" "Well, what?" "Well, aren't you going to tell me your name?" I held back a sigh and closed my book. It was obvious I had no hope of escaping quietly. "It's Kirsten," I said. She kept looking at me intently, and I didn't know what to do so I looked back. The girl was beginning to make me nervous, so I took a long, deliberate sip of my coffee and looked with longing at my sketchbook, which was sitting seductively in front of me on the table. Katie said nothing, so I thought maybe she had only wanted to introduce herself...but then I wouldn't have minded if she'd left me alone. I slowly reached for my book and started to open it again. "Kirsten?" Shut the book. "Yes?" "I have always wanted to be like you." My head snapped up, despite my best efforts. It's not often, after all, that a pretty teenage girl wants to "be like" a sad-looking drunken twenty-year-old person sitting alone at Webb's in the middle of the night. I stared at her. "I saw you coming in from the lot, and watched you walk in the door with your little book and go quietly to this table where we're sitting now...you don't mind if I sit?" I shook my head, and Katie sat. "Thank you. Now I've only been observing you for five, maybe seven minutes, but I can already tell...may I look at your sketchbook?" Nobody gets to look at my sketchbook. I nodded slowly and pushed the book across the table with one finger. Katie lit a cigarette. I did the same, and we both sat silently and smoked while she carefully studied each of my drawings, even the terrible contour-line bits I had to do for a class once. I finished my coffee and was trying to devise a polite way to leave when Katie, without looking up from my book, quickly waved her hand over her shoulder and said "Jim." Jim hurried over and refilled our mugs before I could stop him. I didn't want any more, but I couldn't just let it sit there. After a few more minutes, Katie nodded with what looked like satisfaction, loudly closed my book and settled back in her chair. She lit another cigarette and puffed on it for a bit. "They're quite good, you know." She tapped the book and a bit of ash fell onto the cover. I stared at the ash, wanting desperately to brush it off but somehow unable to move. "Thank you," I nearly whispered. I couldn't take my eyes from the piece of ash. "The ones of naked people are especially good. Accurate. You must have seen a lot of naked people over the years." Her eyes twinkled obnoxiously. "I...I suppose," I stammered. "I mean, in...in movies and stuff." Katie giggled. "In movies, yes." And what to say now? I didn't know why I'd said that about movies, as it was a big fat lie. The only sorts of movies I usually watch show the occasional asscheek, or maybe a breast here and there. I dearly hoped Katie was through discussing naked people. "So Kirsten, I really would love to be like you." Suddenly I wanted nothing more than to talk to Katie about naked people. But I didn't say anything. Jim refilled the mugs again. "You go to the university, then?" "No, not anymore." I bit my lip. "It was boring?" "Yes, you could say that." "Lovely." Katie grinned. "That is perfect." She blew a smoke ring. "Perfect," she said again. "If you say so..." Katie was looking down now, scribbling on a napkin. "Here," she said, handing me her phone number. "You really should call sometime. I have quite a few questions for you...but now I've got to go...school starts tomorrow." She winked and rushed off, leaving her cup of coffee steaming on the table. All I could do was sit wondering if she'd just been fucking with me, and marvelling at the fact that i had just been intimidated by a girl who looked like an Olsen twin. Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 09:44:21 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the case of the runaway thread- cliffhanger Message-ID: <20010828084421.79089.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> as comaboy sat waiting for a miracle, idles was brushing herself down. She'd woken up to find herself in a gutter, and couldn't quite remember how she'd got there. She was somewhere on the edge of town, her head felt dizzy and her arm stung with the dull throbbing pain like someone had given her a dead arm and then she'd fallen on it. She looked around. There was nobody to be seen. Just the orange hue of the street lights fuzzing above her, and the scent of stale perfume coming out from the Picnic Brothel. There was a poster up in one of the windows. Tonight was caberet night, and Johnjohn was performing with his golden feather boa, teasing the locals and batting his eyelashes at anyone who entered. It was a leathal combination, sure to drive any Sinisterian mad with lust. And boy, did johnjohn know it. Idleberry stood up, staggered and fell back down again. Something wasn't right here, and it wasn't that she'd spent the time asleep in the gutter. No. Idles was used to that. There was something else, some other mysterious forces at play. There was only one thing for it.... Idles got back to her apartment. The clock on the wall said half past four, but you know, she wasn't quite sure if it was, or if it was just the fact that Jarvis Cocker was crooning downstairs in the local restuarant, Salt Cellar, run by Will Salt. She picked up the reciever of the phone. She had some serious phonecalls to make. She didn't want to look like a fool, not being able to solve this case, she had to find someone to blame, and fast. Afterall, it was her duty, and her responsibility, and its all very well to end up with wet leaves on your face from a night in the gutter, but egg really wasn't her thing. She had a reputation to uphold. She made the phonecalls, and quickly nipped into her wardrrobe to get changed. Minutes later, she was standing n front of the mirror, wearing blue shorts, a red basque top and a gold headband and sweatbands round her wrists. "Oops" she though "wrong costume". She quickly nipped in again, til she found her tweed skirt and jacket, and a pale cream blouse, and her sensible shoes. "There" she thought to herself "Not wonderwoman, Miss Marple." She waited til those who she had summoned to the room arrived, and sat in a most unlady like fashion, drinking ribena straight from the bottle. She tried to recollect what had happened the night before.... *********** idles had found herself outside Alistair Cooks newstand, where he and a young lad had been selling the papes. "Read all abaaat it!" they had screamed, in mockney accents. Idles had paid for a paper, and picked up a copy. At that moment, Stuart Murdoch crept up behind her and put his hands over her eyes. "Guess who?" he had said. Idles knew who those sticky palms belonged to. It had to be Murdoch. She only wished he'd actually wash his hands a little more often. They had ended up, inevitably, back at his bacholor pad, which was indeed pretty cool, all done up with little remote controls for everything, in a sort of sixties way. She sat listening to him, getting him more and more drunk on Ribena and plying him with chupa chups, trying to get the truth out of him. If he knew what the truth was. But Murdoch was a hardman. A hard core West coaster. And he could handle his ribena well. Idles had forgotten that. She forgot what a light weight and cheap date she was. ******************** That was all she could recall. She was a little dissapointed that she'd ended up in the gutter, but was sure it wasn't Murdoch who had put her there... no... ***************** She recalled a knock at the door, shortly before she passed out. Murdoch had answered it in his Hugh Hefner smoking jacket.. and been over powered by a rather spooky pizzaboy that looked exactly like..... ************ Idles sat down. They were all here. Murdoch, V bird, The Narrow Wizard, Sunset, Timothy Meskers, The Ugly Gardiner dame, Photojenni, Robin Stout, and comaboy. "I've gathered you all here, becuase I know who started the runaway thread" started Idles. "Do you?" asked Sunset. "Not really, but I have a air idea of who to blame, and watch them panic and see if it really is them" whispered idles back to her. ************************* Who dunnit? who was it and why? And was it in the library with the pistol? find out in the final concluding installment of "The Case of The runaway Thread"!!! ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 08:51:31 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:51:31 Subject: Sinister: new order gig and london roundabout:) Message-ID: hey darlings anyone going to the new order gig on the 12th of october?? I must go as I happen to be in london that time..i am going over to uk on the 3rd october nad home on the 2oth most of the time i'll be in canterbury but the rest in lovely london dates 3rd to 7th and 12th to 14th..yeaaay:) anyone like to meet up? know ehre to go? to crash? and mostly anyone going to either lucksmiths or new order gig?? will the tikcets sell out can someone purcase one for me and they'll get the money later?? :) hugs becka in sweden http://hem.passagen.se/beckygirl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Tue Aug 28 14:04:41 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:04:41 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian in sweden.. Message-ID: <151370258@spray.se> Hey fellow sinisteree´s! belle and sebastian. are. coming. to. sweden. !. According to a rumour that´s been going on for a while now. At Mejeriet, in Lund, Sweden, they´re going to play sometime in november. Why don´t we all travel to Lund and watch them? I sure know I will. If it´s in one of those clubs that is from 18, I´ll figure out a way to get in then. I´ll get in using my super-charming-powers I guess. It hasn´t been confirmed by Jeepster or anything, but it has been in the paper. The same club are going to have D-12 as guests as well, that´s already settled, so, they KNOW how to get "big bans" there, right? Oh, I just HOPE It´s true.. If it isn´t, I´ll be standing in Lund sometime in November and crying in silence because the world´s greatest band never came. Oh, I don´t blame them or anything if they aren´t coming for real, no, I WILL feel stupid though about the money I will have spent on travelling down there. But hey, who knows. I might be looking into Stuart Murdoch´s eyes sooner that I think.. Kittenlove, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 13:38:06 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Miss Marianna Longmire) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:38:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the state the toilet is in Message-ID: greetings y'all for those who haven't read it, there was a little something written about Struan in TIme Out last week. -- CELEB SQUATTING What the bogs of the rich and famous are really like: Stuart Murdoch 'It's a bit of a mess, frankly. I notices what looked like a tube of Canestan on the side of the bath. Or mayby it was KY Jelly. Quite disappointing.' -- Other celeb thunderboxes mentioned included: Uri Geller, Michael Jackson. Colin Greenwood and Gary Barlow. Rock and (toilet) roll. In other news, I was at Reading on the weekend and it was the tits. Mercury Rev blew my mind and I danced like I was 15 again when Teenage Fanclub were on. Woo! I also spotted 3 Ampersand t-shirts and 1 I Love My Car t-shirt. Obviously they were being worn by people, they weren't just boogieing by themselves. I wanted to go up and say hi, but didn't. I just smiled stupidly instead. x Marianna _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol04 at xxx.uk Tue Aug 28 14:16:51 2001 From: ol04 at xxx.uk (the narrow wizard) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:16:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: so long and thanks for all the fish Message-ID: well folks its a sad day for me and a happy one for you sinister people cos this is my last post I finish uni on friday and so goes my internet access just noticed something the above sections have three lines each this is just a modern haiku be free with your sylables with your lines be three wanted to say thanks to you all for everything thanks for the laughs the serious stuff and the arguments thanks for the friendships the kisses and the crushes you guys have been great and I've been so so and now I must go love and hugs Owen and remember so much depends on the red wheelbarrow with that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and exploded messily all over the place leaving behind a nasty stain +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Aug 28 14:44:43 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:44:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Vancouver - Change of Venue Message-ID: <00d601c12fc7$9a099080$658cfc3e@neil> Sorry to butt in... The Vancouver gig has moved too. It is now at The Orpheum Theatre. Ticket details are the same as before. Check www.belleandsebastian.co.uk for details. Oh, and... Jonathan Richman will now be performing at all the shows. That's it! Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Aug 28 14:53:20 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:53:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sweden - Sorry, but... Message-ID: <00dc01c12fc8$ccfd46c0$658cfc3e@neil> Sorry about this but..... We're not coming to Sweden this year. Sorry but we're not. I don't know how this was reported in a newspaper, because we have never confirmed a gig in Sweden. We were looking at the possibility a few weeks ago, but it wasn't possible. SORRY!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 15:06:12 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:06:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <7f.196d771a.28bcff54@aol.com> Hmmm. Well Sinister, this is it. Summer is over for me. I go back to school tomorrow, and I am no loger excited. Who would have thought that being in school for eleven months straight would be so compelling and decieving that, all summer I wanted to go back. But then it decieved me and I thought, "Kate, what has this summer come to? We didn't do anything really worthwhile". Sure sure, I got Physics out of the way, but was it worth it to sacrifice everthing else? NOw I just want more time, and I'd waste it most assuredly so. How have all of your summers been? Filled with sinister happenings, I am quite sure. Thats unfortunate. I cant help but have a pinge of jealousy when I think of all of you. Now, dont get me wrong, my summer hasn't been a complete waste of time, I have added a lot of money to the music industry, and along with that 11 albums to my colection, and a list of ones to buy a page and a half long. Now I'm up to 35! Yea Yea! Since my last post I have been frequenting quite often on #sinister, and I am loving it. But I have to say I am not getting my daily fix of the neccisary amount of Ken Chu in my diet, something that has been lacking since I think he is trying to restrain his posting. Ken Chue where are you??? Tonight I am going to the Madonna concert, who plays a song with something to do with fabric, but I dont think I can remember what yet.. I know what everyone is saying about things changing when you get to be older. Life is already changing for me, but not so bad just yet. My best friend just moved away and I will never see her again and she says shes afraid of her house because there are lizzards jumping out of her mailbox...Oh well.. Much love everyone. kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 15:56:37 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:56:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Indie Message-ID: Hello, I leave for Glasgow on Thursday and would love to know of any indie club nights that are worth going to. Or even recommendations for any club night. Please mail me off the list! Best Regards, Chrissy --Extraordinary how potent cheap music is-- ***Noel Coward*** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewj54 at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 19:12:23 2001 From: andrewj54 at xxx.com (andrew utter) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:12:23 Subject: Sinister: bustin out Message-ID: Hi everybody, Just got out of nursery, feeling the need to get out and express myself. I've enjoyed all the grate posts, stories, discussions, wit and tweeness. But of late the traffic has been pretty heavy. How do you all cope? Reading these posts is almost a fulltime job in itself, albeit an amusing one. Where are all the New York area sinsterites? I live in Jersey City and work in Manhattan. Why are we so underepresented? Does it have anything to do with the current tour? Someone alluded to a North American east coast walkout. Is that it? Let's have a picnic! We should all go up to the Cloisters in the fall. I think that must be the ultimate NYC twee destination. And who among us practice the sin the dare not speak its name? C'mon, we wrote the book on twee, I'm sure you must be out there. One of the most surprising things about the list for me is how thoroughly hetero it seems to be. Unless I just haven't learned to read the signs. There are no women in my office anymore so no one ever talks. The list helps me feel in touch during the day. I just hope I don't end up getting fired for spending all my time reading posts. I went out and bought some new bedding and a down comforter yesterday, only to discover in the middle of the night that I seem to have developed an allergy to down. I'll have to settle for something synthetic. What a drag. Down comforters are one of the great pleasures in life, sort of like the tactile equivalent of Morrisey singing "Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me". And my time with down comforters is over. For good. Barring huge medical advances in eliminating allergies. It's almost like a little piece of my mortality. Looking forward to getting to know all about all of you, Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 21:12:22 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:12:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I know where the summer goes. Message-ID: Hello friends, Things have been incredibly hectic these past few days, what with school starting back up again and myself getting into various interesting predicaments. Did anyone go to the Reggie and the Full Effect show on Sunday at the Troc? I saw a boy wearing a very cool red Explodingdog shirt. I should have said nice shirt, but instead I just sort of stared at it. Reggie were very nice, despite the fight that happened during the show in the audience to my left. A very bloody boy came over to me holding his nose, and some other boys punched and kicked at a boy who fell onto the ground. That was a bit scary. But the real end of my summer happened a few days earlier. I recently got a new car, well, a new used car. A 1971 Volkswagon Karmann Ghia to be precise. It's red. I'd been debating going to the party for some time, and I finally did, since I now didn't have to rely on others for transportation. I saw a lot of my old friends and had a generally fun time. I left early since I was going to be travelling to Philly the next day and as I was pulling out I was struck with what a beautiful night it was. The reddish moon hung halfway in the sky and a cool breeze blew in through the windows. The route home was particularly scenic and I could see the moon reflected in a creek to the left. A wave of contentment washed over me and I guess you could say it was a perfect moment, the forest truly did whisper to me. I finally came to the turn which would take me to my development, back home. I gradually became aware of the radio, I'd been listening to Tigermilk the whole ride and not even noticed it. I flicked on my right turn signal and looked up at the moon again as if to silently give it thanks for a pleasant evening when My Wandering Days Are Over began. I flicked off my right turn signal and smiled, consumed by an overpowering feeling of elation. My wandering days weren't over, they were just beginning. Tigermilk, the red moon, my old car and I were filled with optimism as we set out to do some exploring, responding to the whisper with unsaid thanks and a pinging engine. -Timothy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hazygreyeyes at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 22:29:08 2001 From: hazygreyeyes at xxx.com (Chris Horne) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:29:08 -0700 Subject: Sinister: ATTN: ALL WEST COASTERS!!! Message-ID: Sorry for the caps on that intro, I just wanted to get folks attention (also sorry about such a short post, but...) Can people in the know in the S.F., Olympia and Seattle areas give me the details on your picnics? I'd be very appreciative. You can email them to me personally so as not to bog down the list. ALSO! Can any other Portlanders please help to rally support for a meeting here, too? It seems maybe that people with whom I've spoken are right about us Northwesterners and our nonchalant state of ennui about gatherings and such. So far I don't see much happening here in P-Town towards a meeting, and I've been trying...so now I need help! There have to be other interested people, aren't there? :D -Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Tue Aug 28 23:20:56 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:20:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: There's nothing like the sunset here tonight Message-ID: The sunset here tonight was beautiful. I read a thing in the Q&A section of the Guardian travel section a couple of weeks back where people were responding to a question about where the best sunsets in the world were... I've seen some amazing sunsets in some amazing places and been lucky enough to appreciate some beautiful ones when I've been unlucky enough to find myself in some unbeautiful places, but there's something about the sunsets over Heathrow, with the planes soaring up in to the twilight and just the whisp of a cooler breeze... I think I'm looking forward to autumn in a misty, melancholy kind of a way. Autumn seems to suit these suburbs of London somehow; softens them. Thanks to all concerned for the picnic and Tigermkilking, everybody seemed happy and glad that they came. Hope you got your bag back Mark? There seemed to be quite a few people there who would be up for travelling to a Manchester picnic, and seeing as I'm down here and from there and there's been a few requests for one I kind of said I might do the whole mummy thing. More of an evening do so we could go to Smile afterwards which never seems to get going 'till after 10. Maybe if Peter Carter and Juicy Luicy and anyone else who might be interested mails me off list what Saturdays they could do I'll see what I can manage? No promises though, I've a hectic month or two ahead. Goodnight PeetSketchSteve "The effect of a blow is as proportionate to the texture of the object struck as to its own momentum; and she had such a superlative capacity for being wounded that little hits struck her hard." (Thomas Hardy, 'A Pair of Blue Eyes') _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 01:05:54 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:05:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Don't ever say I never did anything nice for you Message-ID: In the words of Cheap Trick, "'Ello kiddies," Say, I wonder how the gigs are selling? The move to larger venues certainly seems to indicate some pretty tidy sellouts just as the initial booking of smaller theatres seems to indicate a bit of trepidation. I remember during the UK tour a lot of enthusiastic jumping up and down style posts, screaming "I GOT A TICKET!! I GOT A TICKET!" Decidedly less of those this time round. Cultural differences I suppose. Either that or the fact that us Western Americans don't know exactly what we're in for and would otherwise be much more excited. Though we are known for being "laidback" (man), so who knows. My point is (yes, as unlikely as it appears, I do have one) that it seems that everyone on this list willing and able to get to a gig has already secured him/herself a ticket. Ou�? N�n? Well, if by chance you have been left out in the cold, and there are indeed no more tickets available through conventional means, there is still hope. If you're a decent songwriter that is. Read on and get scribblin': ********** Write a song (you can write songs, can't you?), win a pair of tickets to see Belle and Sebastian next week. Easy. We�ve got a pair for each of the following shows: 9/6 Los Angeles, 9/8 San Francisco, 9/11 Portland, 9/13 Vancouver, 9/14 Seattle, 9/15 Olympia and we�d like to see you there. Here are the rules: 1. Your song must include a line from a Belle and Sebastian song. The line may or may not be the basis for your song. 2. Your song must include a line or lines about the city or cities in which you hope to see the band. (Only one pair of tickets per winner, but if you want to enter for Seattle and Vancouver because you�re willing to drive to whichever you win, you can.) 3. Your song doesn�t necessarily have to be in the style of Belle & Sebastian. Write it, record it and send it in. We�ll accept mp3s, CD-Rs and cassettes. If you�re entering an mp3 and have web space where you can post it, please do and send in the link instead. If you don�t have access to fancy recording machinery, we�ll also accept a submission of just lyrics, although you�ll have to be extra clever to make up for the lack of music... The best song in each market will win the tickets. If you�re entering via email, please send your submission to matthew at matadorrecords.com with �Belle Ticket Contest� as the subject heading. Via regular mail (please make sure to include your email address): Belle & Sebastian Contest c/o Matt Ransford Matador Records 625 Broadway 12th FL New York, NY 10012 You�ve got one week�the LA show is next Thursday, and we�ve got to pick the winners by next Wednesday. Good luck! ***************** So, there ya go if you're interested. Is it just me, or does the idea of running a contest like the Gong Show seem a little unfair? Whatever happened to random drawing or obscure trivia so only a *real* fan can win? Or make people earn it through something that requires more guts than talent. For instance, here's my contest*: To win a pair of tickets to see Belle and Sebastian you and a friend must go to a very public place (such as a mall) naked save for terry underwear for girls and arab straps for boys (same sex pairs eligible, just pretend), with one name each painted the length of your body (Belle or Sebastian). Begin photographing each other with random strangers. The team in each market to get the most photographs before being arrested will win the tickets. Mail your undeveloped film directly from jail, to be eligible it must arrive with a county corrections postmark, and $15 check or money order for each roll. Entries containing pictures with police officers will receive special consideration. Money collected from unsuccessful entrants will not be refunded but may go towards bail for the winners. Photographs will also not be returned and are the sole property of the contest sponsors in perpetuity, all rights reserved. Now that's a contest! -Rinaldo *fictional, do not do this _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ettirgam at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 07:05:27 2001 From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: dinosaurs and genghis khan Message-ID: <20010829060527.70588.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> i have just made myself sick. well, sort of. i just spent a fortune to travel to a country where i do not speak the language and the occupants do not speak my native tongue. all this to prove that i am young and with a job that pays enough to allow me to do so. i am also desperate to see the friend who promised two years of her life to the peacecorps and mongolia. no one goes to mongolia except geologists and historians. well, so i qualify, but i am not going there for geologic purposes. and after a couple of days explaining my vacation request, the bosses relented. perhaps my boss, who is luckily also a friend, convinced the higher-ups that i might just walk out if denied vacation. i shall have a greater claim now to the "crazy girl" title that has been bestowed upon me. and then to top it off, i will be in san francisco for a week. and i will be seeing belle and sebastian twice on the weekend before that week. i'm terrified. i know that they shall not let me down, but what if i let them down, or even worse, what if i turn into a screaming fan and go into hysterics? what if i go into a fit and injure the friends who shall accompany me? all could happen, but the odds are greater that i will not believe that i saw them and just go about my life as if nothing happened, until i remember a tiny detail about the shows. i am too excited. i am buzzing. i do not believe that i have ever really buzzed. maybe i will travel the world now chasing belle and sebastian simply for the buzz. anyway, little content. and if anyone has any true tales of travel in mongolia that pertain to this century or the last decade of the previous, please send them my way. i need to know that i am not crazy, just adventurous. marikka. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robinjstout at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 13:09:57 2001 From: robinjstout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:09:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Goodbye, I'm leavin' Message-ID: Yes, it's been a long time, but it's time to go. As I'm moving I'll be email-less and listless for a while so I've decided to unsubscribe. I love this list, the people on it are all so lovely and entertaining, even though some of you don't post half as much as you should. You know who you are. Actually, it's not so emotional. I'll probably reappear in a few months, I don't know. I just thought it'd be rude to leave without saying goodbye. David mentioned his favourite sunset a while ago, and so did PeetSketch Steve. They were both city sunsets and they reminded me of an incredible view I saw in, of all places, Birmingham a fortnight ago. When you leave New Street station the first thing you see are six or seven tall black cranes that descend from the sky and root themselves behind a blue plywood screen. This is the site of the old Bull Ring, quite an extraordinary place in itself, which has been demolished - ripped apart by those cranes - to make way for the city's brave cosmic Future. Only a concrete crater remains. There used to be a route through the Bull ring to the market but now a makeshift bridge crosses from one side of the crater to the other, between the cranes, and the folk of Birmingham sit on it, in their wheelchairs and tracksuits, looking through the wire mesh at the metal and plastic bursting out of the ground. It'll be gone soon, filled in and replaced by a "new opportunity", so catch it while you can. In Birmingham I'm always accosted by Scientologists who try to brainwash me. They ask me to come to a room for a questionnaire. Has anyone ever done this? I'd like to say yes sometime but I'm worried I might become BRAINWASHED, and ONE OF THEM. In the library I was reading a book and a woman sat beside me with a carrier bag. Out of it she pulled a pack of Wagon Wheels and began chomping on them. Whenever I glared she smiled at me and sat back, her stomach bulging and her fat legs either side of the table legs. I couldn't read my book anymore so I left. It was horrible. Typically content-less. Bye, then. Hope I see you again. Robin xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 13:26:51 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:26:51 Subject: Sinister: pics, nics and picnics Message-ID: Hello people. Just a quick one really, to say that there are photos from the Benicassim gig here: http://communities.msn.co.uk/abetterplacetoselfdestruct/benicassimfestivalpics.msnw?Page=1 The ones at the top are of Jarvis at Benicassim, but there are B&S one at the bottom if you scroll down. They're not very good, but then again, they never are, are they? Oh yeah, there's a second page, too, with more B&S pictures. In other news: the picnic was fab, as usual. Thanks to everybody who was kind to me at the picnic, and thanks to everybody who emailed me about my anaesthetic, too. It was one of the most hateful experiences of my life, thank you very much. Anyway, I'll go now. love Asm.x ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 29 15:48:13 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:48:13 Subject: Sinister: too bored to die. Message-ID: <151857301@spray.se> Hi there, I just thought I´d write a very boring post since I don´t have anything to do. I´ve had a really boring day, I´ve just been annoyed at everyone, been for myself and very antisocial. Haven´t a clue why, but some days I´m like that.. My friend Anna is just so terrible. I know it´s strong words, but I kind of HATE her! She´s been copying everything I do for about three years, and I haven´t been able to discuss it with her yet! And still, it annoys me every-fuckin-day.. I wanted to kill her today. And you should remember that I am one of those persons who feels really bad if she kills a bug by mistake or something. She just.. takes everything that makes me me. I started to play the guitar - now she´s going to play guitar. I bought apair of corduroy flares - and suddenly, her whole world was about getting as many corduroy flares as she could find. I mention a quite good band - she will have all their records at the end of the day. And worst of all, she is a spoiled little BRAT who gets anything she wants, i.e she can buy anything she knows I want to but just snapping her fingers. Grrr... Anyone know what to do? Really tell her off and then having a terrible schoollife for the rest of this year (and half of the next one)? In art class today, I had such a good time! We get to make record-covers, we can do EP, CD or LP. I chose cd, and I know it´s a bit boring, but.. ehm.. Well since I am going to make like a nice sleeve and all that I think it´s best to make it a CD-cover. It´s going to be an (imaginary) compilation with really good belle and sebastian songs on it. I am actually going to burn the cd with abit of help form my computer, so that my art teacher gets impressed. The cover however, shows a girl putting up a belle and sebatian poster on a wall, and on her backpack she has like these little badges, one which says "Sinisteree". It´s going to be very nice. The inside of the sleeve will have the story of how the band formed etc, and I WILL have a thank you-list as well, hee hee. It will be dead nice, it will. I am thinking of drawing a sticker on the girl´s backpack which says "I luv Ken Chu" (replace the luv with a heart and you get the picture) but I don´t know. What do you think? Still. Visit my B&S-site NOW: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling yeah? Luv, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willpie_00 at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 16:03:19 2001 From: willpie_00 at xxx.com (Will Porter) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 11: Thou shalt not suffer a bookshop girl to live (or at least not flirt with her overmuch) Message-ID: <20010829150319.94467.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> Kirsten has a story about a Katie. Katies are potent indeed. I myself have been known to fall under their spell and lose at least one or two of my senses for days at a time, which results in my bumping into a lot of things. The attention of a Katie is liable to take the legs right out from under you, if you're not careful. Someone was talking away about something or other and said something about Will, which I naturally assumed to be about me, only it wasn't at all, because it was in fact about that Salt fellow and too busy being about him to be at all about me. I have decided that there are too many Wills here, so the others will have to go. You can change your names and come back, if you'd like, but ths is too confusing for me. I knew you'd understand. Someone else asked where all the New York sinisterites are. We're right here, sweetie. We had a big fucking picnic about a month ago. The question is not where are we, rather "where are you?" And the answer appears to be "New Jersey," which isn't New York at all, now is it? (The author has nothing against New Jersey and is only teasing so for god's sake tell your cousin to stop hitting me.) Laura Llew is shocked--SHOCKED!--that she might be an abomination. I'm sorry, dearie. You're the loveliest kind of abomination, but come on. Really now, you sell books. For money. That's not democracy, that's capitalism (*winks at Julie*). You'd make a right lovely librarian though, if you came into the light. OW! What's that pecking at me? Could it be...? Oh, no, it is only the Limerick Chicken, which cannot fly, so it pretty much hangs out behind my apartment and eats gravel. I'd gladly FedEx it to one of you, but I've already got enough beak-shaped scars, thank you. At any rate, the chicken had this to say: There once was a Laura called Llew And I swear that the following's true: She worked in a store Pimping books out like whores Instead of just sharing a few. Naturally, I cannot be held responsible for the opinions of the chicken, insightful though he may be. I've really been wanting a motorcycle. This peaked for a bit last night, as I was feeling very rock-n-roll and happened upon a Moto Guzzi whose vintage I cannot be entirely sure of, though it suggests the '70s. I must have it. If any of you knows anything about Moto Guzzis of indeterminate vintage, please identify this bike for me. It kind of resembles a BMW 60/5 and may have the number 3000 on it. In other news, the really cute (though married of course) woman with the really cute spaniel is currently in my library and browsing travel books. I'd swoon if I was smaller. As it stands, I'm liable to break something, so I'll remain conscious. For now. Pecan pie is still the best, and is considerably more American than apple pie. mmm pie. xo will (no, not that one. Will Porter. Don't act like you didn't know.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Aug 29 17:57:09 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:57:09 Subject: Sinister: too bored to die. Message-ID: <151922250@spray.se> Hi there, I just thought I´d write a very boring post since I don´t have anything to do. I´ve had a really boring day, I´ve just been annoyed at everyone, been for myself and very antisocial. Haven´t a clue why, but some days I´m like that.. My friend Anna is just so terrible. I know it´s strong words, but I kind of HATE her! She´s been copying everything I do for about three years, and I haven´t been able to discuss it with her yet! And still, it annoys me every-fuckin-day.. I wanted to kill her today. And you should remember that I am one of those persons who feels really bad if she kills a bug by mistake or something. She just.. takes everything that makes me me. I started to play the guitar - now she´s going to play guitar. I bought apair of corduroy flares - and suddenly, her whole world was about getting as many corduroy flares as she could find. I mention a quite good band - she will have all their records at the end of the day. And worst of all, she is a spoiled little BRAT who gets anything she wants, i.e she can buy anything she knows I want to but just snapping her fingers. Grrr... Anyone know what to do? Really tell her off and then having a terrible schoollife for the rest of this year (and half of the next one)? In art class today, I had such a good time! We get to make record-covers, we can do EP, CD or LP. I chose cd, and I know it´s a bit boring, but.. ehm.. Well since I am going to make like a nice sleeve and all that I think it´s best to make it a CD-cover. It´s going to be an (imaginary) compilation with really good belle and sebastian songs on it. I am actually going to burn the cd with abit of help form my computer, so that my art teacher gets impressed. The cover however, shows a girl putting up a belle and sebatian poster on a wall, and on her backpack she has like these little badges, one which says "Sinisteree". It´s going to be very nice. The inside of the sleeve will have the story of how the band formed etc, and I WILL have a thank you-list as well, hee hee. It will be dead nice, it will. I am thinking of drawing a sticker on the girl´s backpack which says "I luv Ken Chu" (replace the luv with a heart and you get the picture) but I don´t know. What do you think? Still. Visit my B&S-site NOW: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling yeah? Luv, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Aug 29 16:58:29 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:58:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The case of the runaway thread rumbles on... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F0F@PIKACHU> Idles explained to the assembled throng what she'd managed to piece together so far. "It seems the scmindie case all came to light when Honey disappeared. Then I found out that Murdoch was about to run off to Rio; and now Robin has been taken away as well. Maybe he got too close to the truth - who knows. Looks like we'll never find out now - I'll be suprised if we see him alive again." A gasp of horror came from all in the room, except Murdoch, who remained eerily quiet. "Photojenni - you'd better watch out, you're next on the list. That message you got from Miss Crush - that's just a sham. They try to entice people to a secret rendezvous point, then Blam!, they hit you on the back of the head, and you wake up in a car crusher. They've got loads of people already. I remember when Keith Watson used to get loads of messages from this Miss Crush, and he's not been heard of for ages." "But who's behind it all?" asked the ugly dame, wishing the narrator would stop arsing around and just get to the bloody point. "Well, I've got some ideas." The assembled cast groaned, because they'd been wishing someone would tell them once and for all so they could all go off and be smutty together. "I don't think the evil Chu is the evil mastermind he likes to portray himself as. He's not the one pulling the strings. Otherwise he wouldn't have dared go to the gang's recruitment meeting in London on Saturday. You've got to make sure you don't end up going to one of those, they'll brainwash you, and before you know it you've been dragged along to their initiation ceremony - Tigermilking I think it's called - and you'll never be normal again." "Anyway, as I've been investigating, I've kept coming across the same code letters - B&S. Well, I think I've cracked it - it stands for Buggery and Sodomy. There's a big paedophilia ring going on, and I think that man is behind it." She slowly raised her hand, and pointed at... ...Murdoch. He jumped up, protesting. "It's not true! I swear, I didn't do anything!" "Go on then, defend yourself!" Sunset snarled. "Look, I'm perfectly innocent. B&S stands for Belle and Sebastian. We're a pop group." "What, named after a crap French cartoon?" queried Idles. "We haven't got time to go into that now. Someone's life might be in danger!" Idles gave him a withering stare. "Why don't you just tell us everything, from the start." Murdoch started sobbing. "Everything was going so well. The band were getting good, we'd even started practicing for a change. But then one member - let's call him Stuart David, because that's his name - got upset. It turns out this Canadian gal had dumped him, and she was making moves on me. Boy, she was hot. I can see why he was upset. But he just flew off the handle, and walked out, swearing revenge on us all. "We didn't believe him at first - how can you be scared of anyone who just goes round shouting 'pish' all the time? But he started getting serious. When we got somebody in to replace him, we had to pretend she was a boy - Bob, I think we called her - to protect her. Then there was the incident on the beach, but let's not get into that. Now, he's getting really mad - he's started going for our fans." "What, people actually like that twee crap you sing?" interrupted the ugly dame. "Shut up, toots," said Idles, who was feeling very embarrassed about getting the whole thing completely wrong. That is, if this Murdoch fellow was to be believed - still, he sounded pretty convincing. She decided to hear him out. "He needed some way to get to them, but first he had to get Honey out of the way. That was alarmingly easy - he just had to tell her there was a perfume sale going on in France. Then he got down to his dirty business. Sure, some people tried to escape his clutches. Sam changed his name to Asm. Rachel went even further - she got a sex change operation and started calling herself 'Archel'." The ugly dame cringed at the realisation that the gorgeous bloke she'd been with the other night wasn't all he was cracked up to be. "But a few people haven't escaped his clutches, as he goes on his evil plan to take over the minds of the fans, and persuade them to buy his pathetic excuse of a book. "That's all I know, we'll have to find him quick before he gets anyone else. I'll drive, I've got this great new car..." "But how will we find him?" asked V bird, casually stroking her hamster. "Last I heard, he was living at 10 Roddington Place. Let's go!" But Idles wasn't having any of it. "Why should we believe you? You're still the same person with an account at the sex-toy shop, you've even written a song about it. And we've heard what you do to people with your carriage clock." Murdoch implored her. "I implore you" he said. "I don't trust you. Who knows where you'll take us in that car of yours?" "Look, Idles, if you come with me, I'll give you a snog." "Oh, OK then, let's go!" And so, our intrepid investigators headed out into the night, not knowing what dangers awaited them... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 17:24:04 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:24:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: So i need advice to find a boy. Message-ID: Oh yes. My cheesiness. So im in starbucks with my friends... and the best boy walks in. hes the best boy ive ever seen in my life. nerd glasses. tall. pale. skinny. sideburns. i couldve melted... right there. i threw a complete hissy fight. what was even worse... he was wearing a radiohead t-shirt. Aw man! THERES NEVER A GOOD BOY IN MY AREA... and i see one, and hes with his MOM! ARGHARGHA! im not gonna approach him when hes with his mom... or ever! im too shy. he was too yummylicious. and i have to find him. oh god yes, i will find this boy. but i dont know HOW!!! ARHARGHAGR! the thing is... he can be from my town... and be new to the area... and maybe ill see him in school and well fall in love and ill live happily ever after. or maybe hes from a different town which gives me no chance:(. aw man... this boy was PURR-FECT FOR ME! MEEEEOW! so what do i do? lol, post flyers in the town looking for him? ah life sucks yes yes vicky +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 18:29:06 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A Half-Life Disappears Today Message-ID: <20010829172906.26222.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> Some mails to sinister have been awful long lately. I thought I would do the same, just to make sure that Captain Marvel doesn't read my post. That would never do. It insults him several times, for one thing. For once, though not for the first time, I intend to spend a mail (and I mean Spend - this stuff's expensive) 'replying' to what people have said. I was surprised to see the mysterious 'Astrid' informing us that she was going to write a 'boring' post. I'd thought her incapable of such a thing. And I still do. Don't I? In the event it was so exciting, I received it twice. 'Astrid' mentioned that she was thinking of getting Chu stickers and the like. This feels like one of the worst ideas I have seen in a lifetime of bad ideas. If you can't see why, perhaps you will someday. After a conversation on licensed premises the other night, I was practically, though not theoretically, touched by the mail from Desmond, who followed great chunks of text by thanking my editor for showing him the way home. Yes - touched. I like the name 'Desmond' too. Where did you get it? The Kids these days are so young that they could probably be named after Desmond Lynam. There's a thought. Another is that Desmond must mean 'of the world[s]' or something thereabouts. I noted a poignancy in the way that the farewell from Stout was swiftly followed by one from Narrow. These farewells I find sad: I always cry at, etc. (Content.) Not many beat that of my editor, which I remember to this day. Sabre-tooth tigers and Emile Heskey, mes braves, that kind of thing. See, I remember it to this day, though not yesterday. Stout's and Narrow's could hardly be in that class, but they still bore the innate poignancy of the form. I feel that they will be back. Possibly it will take that ace footballer geezer 'Ben Apps' to run off and drag them back, as he seems to have a yen to do. Lllaura Lllew posted about bookshops. The best bookshops are ones that charge a pound per book, of course. I took my editor in one once, and he found the very book he was looking for. This is true, though it's so improbable I almost think it isn't. It's a good thing I missed that fabulous picnic. This Radio1 lass might have asked me, the pinefox, about Belle&Sebastian, and then where would her 'fans' programme have been? Having missed the picnic, I managed to get to a different park the other day. Water pistols in Knightsbridge, as Joe Strummer used to say in an early draft. I was knocked backwards by the fantastic (I use the word in his 'fantasy' sense) opulence of the district; or if you prefer, the vicinity. I avoided falling into the path of a passing taxi, though, and spent a long time seeking the kids on the grass. It was very Henry Green, tr�s Liz Bowen. I saw a motorbike helmet, which turned out to be wearing Mark Casarotto. I digest, I mean, digress. I also saw the film THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST the other day. Why, asks David Thomson, is there only the one film? He's a point. He praised Dorothy Tutin, who was indeed a succulent gamine; but I still think that the palm for ingenuity and intrigue must go to Joan Greenwood for the way her voice suggested silliness and understanding (a very Wildean combination, maybe) at once. Look, I have found this about her on the www: >>> It was the voice that set her apart. Husky, plummy, sexy. It cut through her essential gentility and made her seem like a woman of the world even when she was playing it innocent. In one of the most memorable cinema quotes, Karel Reisz described her speaking her lines "as if she dimly suspected some hidden menace in them which she can't quite identify". >>> It also says, >>> With glowing skin and cheek-bones to die for, she photographed beautifully. Unlike many beautiful actresses she could deliver wonderful performances. >>> Cor! After watching the film I had to listen to 'Frankly, Mr Shankly' and try to make the connections. I felt it was an Event when Alasdair96 posted the other day. His post was right next to Llew's, too - a double event. I feel that the timehas arrived when I must reply to him. >>> Happy birthday Sinister! It is today isn't it? I don't know. Who says? >>> My girlfriend told me to write this. She also told me to write that she told me to write this. She told me that you were not into vegetables. But she didn't tell me to write it. >>> I particularly liked the one that mentioned Ken Chu, however the person who sent it seemed to make an error, as it appeared 131 times in my inbox. Devastating. >>> I jest. I always fill in the address last. So do I. I haven't written it yet. What is it anyway? >>> Sometimes I don't even know the address. No. But I know your address. I also know an REM song that says 'Here's my new address'. Is it 'Letter Never Sent'? I like that bridge. We should talk more about old, good REM songs. Like 'Little America' or - darn it, I cannot remember the name of the one I want to mention. Something about a canyon? >>> LLOYD PORTER This reminds me - I have often thought that my ideal pop personality, whom I still await, would be the offspring of the producer of 'Sheila Take A Bow' and the author of 'Anything Goes'. With a genetic inheritance like that, she could even be named after Michael Jackson's sister and still be guid, though not necessarily good. >>> It's at this point that I start to flag. Union blues. Now, what is Cookie96 saying here? Something about Scotland? >>> City. Please don't cry. Something about Kevin Keegan? >>> one might imagine there to be something rather sexy about see-through corduroy pants, but there really isn't. // And she's so wrong. I fear, however, that it is too late. She is? I think she might be. But why is it too late? And for whom? >>> What bits of paper? Bits of paper that I had written on; or printouts of things that I had typed; or old newsprint; and especially, many many pages of the old inky music press. It's all gone. >>> 62? You're over my head again, mon. Geezer. MOTD Year 00, perhaps? I dinnae ken. Could it be that even Chu dinnae Ken? This is in fact easy: Ally McCoist was born in 1962. October, I think. >>> I'm afraid most of the time, being a Belle and Sebastian fan. You sound like Tom Ewing, mon. >>> I've just completed my life's work, btw. And still I haven't included everything I wanted to. Oh well. It comes in two parts. You have to have the first to understand the second, perhaps, and the other way round. It's all linked, see? It could be called something silly like Secrets Of The Heart. That would be the sub-heading. The real heading would be 1995-2001, The Best Of... I have only just realized what this means. For a while back there I thought I was going to have to write something about you writing your autobiography, or whether you really think you only have another 22 years to go. I think I started to think your mail was a bit spoky, which is the name of the Velocity Girl's dog. Now I think it must be something else. >>> I've just filled in the address. It's going to Maryhill. Now I understand this too - or do I? Jeez - so much for replying 'in public'. Is it true that Calumn Shearer is going to whales? I think he should "delurk" and tell us. A while back I wanted to reply to Peter Miller, but he started talking about paintbrushes and intimidating me. I don't know much about the brush, save that it never figured on old TV show Brush Strokes. I still go by what my old Italian painter-decorator tutor, Signor Duluxoroni, told me: - You gotta rolla with it, you a-gotta no problem. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Wed Aug 29 22:26:44 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:26:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ash destroyed my trousers! Message-ID: here's a quick rundown of the bands i saw at the leeds festival at the weekend friday: -boy hits car - american rock - 6/10 -fuzz light years - what posers - 5/10 -electralane - i am in *love* with the guitarist - 8/10 -regular fries - not as good as they used to be - 7/10 -alien ant farm - great fun - 8/10 -mark b and blade - uk hip hop comes into it's own - 9/10 -lowgold - better than last time i saw them but problems with the sound - 8/10 -cat power - disapointing, she's so good on record - 6/10 -clearlake - getting better each time i see them 8/10 -stephen malkmus - i haven't heard much pavement stuff but i liked it - 8/10 -mercury rev - absolutely blinding, jonathan donahue as spooky as ever - 10/10 saturday: -seachange - won a competition to play, really good, i bought a demo - 8/10 -the parkinsons - portuguese punk rock, tentpole climbing at midday - 7/10 -ikara colt - liked what i saw - 8/10 -the moldy peaches - catchy, funny, vital - 10/10 -lo fidelity allstars - are they still going? - 7/10 -mull historical society - great tunes - 9/10 -the strokes - the great white hype, they were ok actually - 8/10 -i am kloot - fantastic songmanship and a fantastic voice - 9/10 -ash - the *best* band to crowd surf to (see subject line) - 10/10 sunday: -terris - should have been in a tent not the main stage for better atmosphere, still great though - 9/10 -the soft parade - for ones so young (16 & 18) absolutely amazing - 10/10 -gorky's zygotic mynci - still cracking out classic tunes, wooh! poodle rockin' - 9/10 -elbow - they've discovered distortion and learned to rock - 8/10 -cooper temple clause - go and see this band, i love them - 10/10 -supergrass - along with ash and SFA this band defined my teenage years - 9/10 -teenage fanclub - what a great, great band - 10/10 -mogwai - what better way to end the festival - 10/10 highlights: getting the button and zip pulled off my trousers crowdsurfing to ash so i had to stand and watch the rest of the gig holding my trousers up, mogwai ending with 15 minutes of feedback, teenage fanclub doing 'sparky's dream', the guitarist from electralaine (mmm i want to have her babies), meeting the moldy peaches (yes CarsmileSteve, you heard me), the bassist from the cooper temple clause climbing the twenty foot high speakers and leaping off, not sleeping for 32 hours from sunday morning to monday afternoon and watching the sun come up (and wandering around leeds bus station in a daze), the patak's curry bus and the good weather. bad points: price of food (�2.50 for a manky burger and �1.50 for a bottle of coke), terris not doing 'searching for the switches', mogwai not doing 'xmas steps', no Belle & Sebastian, getting given a '1 free pint' token and then being told they could only be used in the backstage bar and the fact that gorky's clashed with Hell is for Heroes (ex-symposium members) *and* Frank Black (i had to plump for gorky's, sorry). --------=+#+=-------- another one for the 'songs that sound like B&S songs' file. there was a song being played during the band changes in the evening session tent which had the chorus 'who would fall in love with a chicken with his head cut off'. you can sing The Model over the top and the melody is very similar also. if anybody can tell me what this song is i'd be most grateful. --------=+#+=-------- jenowl said about accents in posts. i read all posts in my voice *except* jenowl's posts which i read in a glaswegian powerpuff girl voice. --------=+#+=-------- i saw 7 b&s teeshirts @ leeds this weekend, was any of them yours? --------=+#+=-------- last night i dreamt that david bowie had invited me, along with loads of other pop stars, to his house to play on a new song he was recording, i was to play the gong but he then decided that we were all going to sing but i told him "dave" i said "i'm not singing the high bits" then i nearly got run down by a train then i had a bag chock full of cocaine and i'd lost the key to the padlock and the gang was blaming me and were going to kill me! and this is tame for one of my dreams --------=+#+=-------- thus spake jarkko frantila: >Could you ever go out with someone who doesn't have the right hairdo, the >right clothes, the right albums in his/her cd- collection? i wouldn't go out with anybody with a cd collection, it's vinyl only for me (is that indie snobby enough for ya? just call me mister pretentious) --------=+#+=-------- sorry for being so long and fragmented but thanks for reading love and KenChu (damn, he slipped in there at the last moment; and that sounded vaguely smutty, where are U ListDomLisa?) Pez* ps. my band Flynn have some gigs lined up so if you're in Newcastle then please come: 27th Sept @ the cooperage w/ 'Calvoon' and 'The Velatones' 5th Oct @ the cornerhouse w/ 'Neil, Your Bedroom's On Fire' pps. if anybody is on MSN messanger and wants someone new to talk to please ask me! room_30 at hotmail.com is my addressss ppps. does anybody know where i would be able to get hold of a badge making machine coz i want to make button badges of pere ubu and the sugarcubes (and belle and sebastian and flynn of course) www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowyminor at xxx.com Thu Aug 30 03:37:46 2001 From: snowyminor at xxx.com (Michelle R.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: somewhere not here Message-ID: <20010830023746.88207.qmail@web11708.mail.yahoo.com> how are you you know that feeling you get when you are somewhere, but all of a sudden you feel like you are in another time or country? Not deja-vu, because that would mean you have been to that place before. Well I guess it could be deja-vu, if you've been there in a past life. I'm confusing you aren't I...hmm. Well that is a great feeling. Last night driving I all of a sudden felt I was in Tokyo. Not that I've ever been there, but just had a feeling based on what I *think* it's like. Only happens regarding places you'd like to go to. This also usually happens to me at night for some reason. Listening to certain songs can do that to you. Ie. when listening to "like dylan in the movies," I get the feeling I'm in some snowy place, especially towards the end of the track. Same thing with Broadcast...I get the impression I'm in Europe on a cloudy day. It's nice..kind of a vacation in your sub conscience people have been talkin' (ok like me and 1 person) about fall. In the spirit of this, here's a bit of Akhmatova Let any, who will, still bask in the south On the paradisal sand, It's northerly here-and this year of the north Autumn will be my friend (1957) Did you ever see 'Lovers of the Arctic Circle'.... really nice movie that screams autumn/winter. That and "O Brother Where Art Thou," the scenery is purty. So that's another thing to check out to get ya'll in the mood. So if you saw Aerosmith in San Diego recently, chances are you might have seen my aunt. You see, she practices the lost art of bumrushing the stage. She rushed the stage with a couple other people and, eyewitnesses say, she grabbed onto Stephen (Steven?) Tyler's leg as he said 'get her off of me!' Now, I've bumrushed 2 stages in my life (in once case they were inviting people to do so), but nothing as big as Aerosmith though. I think it's a dying art really. Save the bumrush. Can I just say, I thoroughly enjoyed Perriman's post. I'm down with anyone using the "on a scale of 1-10" rating system. And yeah, Miss Chan Marshall is lovely etc etc, but I hear she's crazynuts live. I commend Marikka 110% for going to Mongolia. Take lots of pictures. xx michelle mitten xx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jkananen at xxx.net Thu Aug 30 07:48:39 2001 From: jkananen at xxx.net ({USER_FIRSTNAME} {USER_LASTNAME}) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:48:39 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sinister:the girl with the red shirt... Message-ID: <00bd01c1311f$cd7f3e20$0100000a@earthlink.net> I don't post often [or at all]. But when I do, its usually about some wonderful person I met that day. And today was no exception [before we go on...notice the 2 sentences that started with coordinating conjunctions, HA! only an English tutor will find that funny...] I met a girl today, her name's Christina, and she's a self professed B&S fan [yay!] (of course, if she is on this list my red will turn the color of an apple, and not those granny ones). But not only that, she is one of the coolest people I've had the pleasure of meeting in a long time. She dresses like a goddess; meaning that she can wear things NO ONE else can, and look fabulous in them. Today, she had on a red dress shirt, some charcoal pants, and wonderful lime green shoes. Her hair to is something that the ugly curly mop on the top of my head could never be. She sits in front of me in my "film making" class [which it isn't, but that's another post]. Anyway, just another post about another girl who I'll never have the guts to have a conversation with [anyone who said shyness is cute obviously isn't shy, else they wouldn't have said such nonsense]. sorry to waste your time, but I typed all that, I'm not going to hit the delete key a hundred times when you can just once, so get to it, hit the delete key for me because I'm too much of a lazy guy to do it for you. Jason - we got heads on sticks - Radiohead Kid A +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heather at xxx.uk Thu Aug 30 10:07:13 2001 From: heather at xxx.uk (heather) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:07:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: hello In-Reply-To: <151922250@spray.se> Message-ID: I've never written before, just lurked like a soap in the bath, but I need a brand new friend (TM). And you can't make real friends on the net (I'll tell you about my fanfiction experience one day if you're not quick enough) you can make great avatars. (I'm halfway through 'Look to windward') Anyway, just had a reunion with some college friends I kept up with on e-mail and with a few exceptions it went badly. Or I was too needy, as they say of american relationships. Anyway, it's their loss (as if I could really and truly believe that). I have just moved to London from Manchester and thought 'Oh well, I'll have a few friends here'. Few is the word. On a more uppy note, I have reached 16% on my block of SETI alien-searching information, and learned the true value of music while travelling on a crowded tube. Although MD players skip awfully. Did anyone see that cool advert for MTV where a slightly camp bloke wanders through school with only his music as a barrier? I think I'll get a Siamese cat and train her to walk on a lead. Nice speaking to you. Heather +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Thu Aug 30 10:41:28 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:41:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: ash destroyed my trousers! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010830094128.4528.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> chris pez wrote: > another one for the 'songs that sound like B&S > songs' file. there was a > song being played during the band changes in the > evening session tent which > had the chorus 'who would fall in love with a > chicken with his head cut > off'. you can sing The Model over the top and the > melody is very similar > also. if anybody can tell me what this song is i'd > be most grateful. the song in question is Chicken With Its Head Cut Off (!) by the luvverly Magnetic Fields. try as i might, i can't hear any similarity between it and The Model, but we may be able to blame that on the possibly inaccurate renditions of both tunes going around in my head as i type. no T&F pranks in london for me this weekend, instead i'm off to cork. hooray for cork! it's got a wildlife park with lemurs and capybaras and oryxes (who are extinct, but no-one seems to have told these oryxes). and other things. can't wait .... rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - Groucho Marx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Thu Aug 30 10:59:25 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:59:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A short kitchen conversation Message-ID: The woman smiled fondly but sadly at the her daughter. They had been talking in the kitchen. The girl stood against the radiator looking down. Not daring to look up. "I wish I could give you the confidence you deserve" The girl bit her lip and didn't say anything. She wished that too, she wished there was a way to have corrective surgery and come away with enhanced self confidence. But then the girl wasn't sure she really deserved anymore confidence anyway. The girl often wondered what it would feel like to have more confidence. Would she feel like other people then? Or did other people have as little confidence as her and they disguised it in different ways. She really didn't know. It seemed like a nice thing though, to have more confidence. The idea that she would be able to walk in to a room and feel as good as anyone else in there, it seemed good. It would certainly beat walking into a room feeling inferior to everyone else in it.But then the girl started to doubt herself again. "Maybe I feel that way because I'm not as good as everyone else. " She looked at her mother as she spoke. She already knew that her mother would disagree and tell her what a lovely person she was. The girl knew that she would listen feeling a little better but all the while not quite believing it. The girl wondered why there were people who seemed to want to knock any shred of confidence out of her. She could understand them disliking her but why did they want to put her down? People who had got to know her, people who she had once trusted and people who she had told all of her secrets to. She wondered why they had suddenly started using them against her. She was having her worst insecurities thrown at her by someone she used to trust. Her self confidence was battered and could slip away completely if she wasn't careful. But she was careful, not about to give in, and she was lucky. Some people have kind hearts they are caring and don't want to take you confidence away to build up their own. They stop you becoming cynical and stop you giving up on everyone. They allow you to believe that there are some things worth placing your trust in. The girl was lucky because she knew some of these people. And their kindness kept her going. She thought about this for a second, slouched against the radiator. She smiled. The girl felt she had the confidence to get through all of this. ******* Take Care Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Thu Aug 30 16:30:48 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:30:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: saturday loves tompaulin saloons Message-ID: <20010830153048.30141.qmail@web14904.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinistereens my pootah tells me of a track and field night at the scala on saturday with the loves and saloon and lovely tompaulin. my e letter says that they are open till four am with John Kennedy djing and I would love to meet up with anyone in London who fancies boozing and dancing.Also if you mail T+F its only two english pounds. any takers ? I will look fab and make it worth your while! jox ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david-a-simpson at xxx.net Thu Aug 30 20:18:25 2001 From: david-a-simpson at xxx.net (David Simpson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:18:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bill Wells Trio/Mixing It Message-ID: <007d01c13188$9d339040$6820383e@oemcomputer> Hello For those who missed it, popular BBC Radio 3 avant music programme Mixing It recently featured a live set from The Bill Wells Trio, which included a B&S member in its ranks (Stevie Jackson I think, though I could be wrong since it was on past my usual bedtime and I was feeling a bit distant). Lovely, so it was, all gentle and drifting. Apparently the set can be both seen and heard on the interweb at www.bbc.co.uk/radio3, though I expect you'd have to look through the site for a link to Mixing It, then from there to The Bill Wells Trio. I mean, don't ask me, I haven't actually gone there and looked. Anyway, nobody else seems to have mentioned it (apologies if I'm wrong about that), and I thought some of you might like to see and hear it. David +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Thu Aug 30 22:56:11 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you were no ordinary drain on her defenses. she was no ordinary girl. Message-ID: <16082320.999208571681.JavaMail.imail@digger.excite.com> hello sinister. i haven't posed for awhile. i feel bad about that. it was never my intention to be a lurker. though my absence here may suggest so, and my recent return to school may as well. it was my goal to make new friends. to talk to people and show them how neat-o i really am. but i keep seeing people i used to know who hurt me in the past. and now just go to the paper and work and go to class and sit and go home and listen to music. it's too hard to be the first to say the first word. and it's getting easier to think that maybe i am in the wrong place, or just a stop on the path that will take me to where i'm really supposed to be. so does it matter if i'm surrounded by people? or is it better to find the world in my mouth? i think the latter. today, anyhow. i feel like i've written this before. or something similar. so forgive me for sticking on mundane things i need to drop off from. my roommate is growing to love b&s. the reporter sitting next to me smells like my grandfather. and now i'll go away. your lindsey lou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Thu Aug 30 23:34:54 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:34:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I Said, Let's Go Out And Have Some Fun Message-ID: I didn't go to the Picnic, but I did go to London (briefly) and Scotland and it was great, quite something for a sheltered girl to finally have done and so now I get to Report Back. I have observed for four years, the name calls and shout outs you know. I am afraid there are too many names and moments I want to share, but I will try to cut it short. I am very thankful for the kindness, warmth and conversation from all of the people I met over there or else I would've been a hopeless wandering mess. Thank you for the dear souls who gave me a place to stay and for the dear soul helping me over to Stansted. Also, the spell has been broken, the Arctic Woman's frozen stave has shattered and welcomes you to stay chez Genevieve and ice skate and eat BeaverTails any time. I did karaoke for the first time and it was a Sinister Parade...Ken Chu (easy now),Trousers, Carsmile, Lucy, Vicky, Mark, Ally, Martin, Nick, Elena, Paul, Sally and the wonderful David Moore who I wished I could've had endless discussions with on Freckled Arms And How To Get Them. I only knew one Lloyd Cole song upon arrival and yet was still able to communicate with The Pinefox - it must be the universal appeal of Tractor Boys. I hope he understood me, although he was actually quite fluent in Canadian. Everyone was very lovely and I wish I could've talked more with them. I took a train, that was exciting. Normally I strap my snowshoes to my back and leap onto the nearest passing caribou and hope for the best. I got to take a ferry to Arran and *that* was exciting too, being all alone with my knapsack I felt a bit like Felicia (well, minus the search for the father of my unborn baby and being stalked by a murderer) it started to rain and the winds they were howling and all these rugged Scottish men were out on the deck, (inhaling sharply the air through their nostrils) with these thin little tshirts on. I was freezing, but I never went inside, it's great to have your hair whip around your face while approaching misty green hills. While I was there the weather was all blue skies and sunny compared to the grey of Glasgow and Edinburgh. I took a gorgeous hike around and saw two postcard perfect boy-backpackers, equally sunny in their own right but with the added bonus of freckled arms. I have this obsession to go to Skye too, but that will be for another summer, as I don't think trekking around those islands in January would be much fun. The Big Cities were wonderful too, thanks to excellent hostesses Honey and Linda and Carey and her sometime associate walking tour guide, Lily Cook, a kind and handsome lad. I met Keith too, he's real you know, smooth by day but Rock by night. There were lots of other lovelies in Scotland - Calumn, Gavin, Jo, Vodkabird and even Mistopher Chris, who surprised me (delightfully) with his pythons and soft, gentle humming of the Rosemary's Baby song. Birthday presents were most lovingly appreciated, the best I've ever had, really. I finished The Sopranos on the plane and slept all week in my B&S tshirt. I still haven't seen Struan (the ice caps might've melted) but his presence was felt. I did go to the B&S soundtracked movie, not enough room in the car, so I had to lay across Carey and VickyVodkabird, feeling like I was being smuggled to the Edinburgh opium dens. I won't comment about the movie because then I'll just go on too long, but musically, there was only about 3 B&S songs played (one being The State I Am In) and I can't remember. I could drink beer in the theatre, understand? I saw two members of the band so now I know that they are real too. I shook one's hand (warm, firm grip) with an eager HiImGenevieveFromCanada while Carey looked nonchalant and beautiful and probably wondered why I didn't write FAN across my forehead in dripping red ink. I did not see the Peacock. I tried Ribena but I don't see the fuss. I prefer Honey's beverage of choice 'A Touch Of Fruit', which she sips so delicately. Sadly, I didn't get to stop at the Saccarens Head, but if I had I would've demanded, Barkeep! I'll have a Touch of Fruit, and could you please pre-loosen the cap for me? My hands get a tad clammy in this climate, thankyou. It was sad when I was at the airport to go home, a Scottish man said Smile Hen! It can't all be that bad? It's no fear of flying like? I didn't feel shouting down the line back at him that it's hard to smile when such a fantastic time seems to go by in a flash. Thank you again, I hope to see you soon. Love, Genevieve It was Struan's birthday a few days ago, I know this not because I am a Geek, but because it's on the same day as my mother's. Wanted,wanted: Struan Murdoch. Hair: Strawberry Blonde. Lips: Raspberry. Age: Ten thousand nine hundred and fifty days (approximately). Profession: Church janitor, or "popstar". Where are you hiding, Struan? Why are you hiding, darling? Happy (Belated) Birthday Sinister _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk Fri Aug 31 00:04:20 2001 From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (james alexander jackson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:04:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: love is sharing your ribena Message-ID: <003701c131a8$1de7c5c0$9865fea9@laluna> Hello everyone... this another post from one of those lurker types... I've been reading all of the posts from you lovely people,and decided to contribute a little something myself for a change; Dimitra said something a while back that people should post if they feel like it, and not hold back so here goes... (you can wish me luck at this point!) I had my resit exam in java last week, so I'm getting quite anxious now about the result. When i think I've done well i get really guilty and think that maybe I'll fail now simply because i thought it wasn't as bad as it was... obviously so many days spent like a monk in my room working at this infernal contraption has left me mildly crackers. So i went to the seaside with my folks for the weekend, which turned out to be much duller than usual. I don't really know anyone in the little village we stay in, and all the people i know in towns nearby were working or on holidays... still, i went to the beach and that made me feel a bit better, because it's one of those beaches that's a nice length to walk, and you can have a good think about stuff while you're walking and be fully armed with whatever you've figured out by the time you get back... I thought about the indie thread that's been going on of late; my friend Alan reckons that indie shouldn't be allowed and ought to banned, so I think anyone who likes indie music (not quite sure a person can be 'indie' really... i mean, we're all different so maybe even hear' say fans are indie, maybe everyone is...) should just smile at non-indie music types and hope that they develop a more eclectic taste in the future. Although Alan's coming seriously close to getting a good beating! grrr... So, er... thanks for listening, thanks for sending so many great posts, good luck to everyone who's going through 'back to school' trauma, and isn't Kylie's new song really terrible?! Oh and if there are any other sinister types in Northern Ireland who fancy going for a pint sometime, please feel free to drop me a line, especially if you live within 30 miles of Castlerock and fancy a walk on the beach! :) best wishes and ribena, James. _______________________________________ This is pleasurable. Or shall I cross that out and say it is sad? In one of the tenses I singing an impossible song of desire that you cannot hear. Carol Ann Duffy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 00:32:09 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: let's pic-a-nic with flowers in our hair Message-ID: <20010830233209.53942.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister- SF PICNIC Sensing a general reluntance, I hereby boldly step forth to declare myself picnic mummy next Saturday, the 8th of September, in the fair city of San Francisco. We shall of course meet in Golden Gate Park, though I am still searching for the most suitable location. Perhaps we will meet at the Conservatory of Flowers. Maybe they have bluebells and tigerlilies. I will send another dispatch with firmer plans, but at this point I'd like to propose 2 p.m., PST, in Golden Gate Park, closer to Haight Street than to the ocean. A specific site near fields for frisbee and SOCCER will be forthcoming. so please, email me off list, and let's get this thing going. as was mentioned before, a stop at Amoeba Records seems compulsory. Then we can trek off to the Warfield -- located smack in the middle of some of the dodgiest blocks west of the Mississippi. I think Saturday is the best to do it, as Sunday is opera in the park, and 50,000 people and their dog will be in GGP. So I hope Saturday works for everyone. OF MORE GENERAL INTEREST well, i think i'd just like to give props to Kirsten's latest story, it sticks out even among her history of well-written posts. and Llaura, Mark Twain seems to have proven himself a fool. And, anyone prescient enough to have their own 16mm film collection deserves instant Sinister fame. Finding those buggers is near impossible. a dios Kyla 510.535.1041 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 02:53:42 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:53:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A song for the lonely Message-ID: Hello Sinister people, The subject line comes by way of the Drugstore song by the same same. Everyone go out and buy "White Magic for Lovers" because it's as good as it gets. Anyways, a lot of people have mentioned how lonely they are and how they wish they could talk to this girl or that boy. I went through a shy stage at one point in my life, but I got over it rather quickly. I suppose there's not much to be said that shy people haven't heard before, you all know the drill; don't be afraid, take a chance and talk to people, and so on and so forth. It's a bit like telling a depressed person to cheer up, nine times out of ten the depressed person nods and forces a grin and then goes back to sulking, but there's still that one person who smiles and laughs and gets on with it. So I'll say it again to the shy people; come out and play with us. Take chances and be daring and brave and silly and stupid and all that, all the things they tell us as kids that are bad and childish (funny that, children are forever being told they're acting like children, isn't that the way it's supposed to be?). Talk to the girl you've always fancied, smile at the boy you've always wanted to smile at. Sure, some won't return the smile, these people are not worth your attention. Eventually you'll find your smile returned and your hello greeted with a friendly "Hi". Because if you don't get out and smile and say hello and enjoy the trees and the cities and the sky and the sea and the people then what was the point of all this (in the general sense of life)? It's only a ride, and it goes up and down and is sometimes loud and scary but it's still only a ride, and sooner or later it stops. Oh, and make no mistake, people (even your friends) will kick you in the teeth from time to time, it happens, it's an annoying part of life and the most you can do is shrug and move on. Those people who'll knock your confidence and kick you in the teeth (metaphorically speaking) can't hurt you unless you let them. Meet them with a smile and a shrug and their power over you melts away like sugar in the rain. And despite your best intention you'll kick someone's teeth in and act the prat and say stupid things and do stupi things and all that, but that's life and it's annoying but it doesn't pay to obsess over it. Bugger all that, I'd rather meet the world with a filthy grin and a laugh, because I don't want the people who think Fear is Good win. The fear that keeps us shy and quiet and not out there singing songs and doing brilliant things. California is calling to me, and it looks like I'll be heading out that way to catch a few shows and do a bit of travelling with a fellow listee. I'm quite excited about it. I'm almost as excited about the Great Lakes Sinister Picnic happening this weekend in South Bend, Indianna. If any of you who are planning to attend have questions on how to get there, drop me a line and I'll instruct you as best I can. Be Sinister... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 02:53:45 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:53:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A song for the lonely Message-ID: Hello Sinister people, The subject line comes by way of the Drugstore song by the same same. Everyone go out and buy "White Magic for Lovers" because it's as good as it gets. Anyways, a lot of people have mentioned how lonely they are and how they wish they could talk to this girl or that boy. I went through a shy stage at one point in my life, but I got over it rather quickly. I suppose there's not much to be said that shy people haven't heard before, you all know the drill; don't be afraid, take a chance and talk to people, and so on and so forth. It's a bit like telling a depressed person to cheer up, nine times out of ten the depressed person nods and forces a grin and then goes back to sulking, but there's still that one person who smiles and laughs and gets on with it. So I'll say it again to the shy people; come out and play with us. Take chances and be daring and brave and silly and stupid and all that, all the things they tell us as kids that are bad and childish (funny that, children are forever being told they're acting like children, isn't that the way it's supposed to be?). Talk to the girl you've always fancied, smile at the boy you've always wanted to smile at. Sure, some won't return the smile, these people are not worth your attention. Eventually you'll find your smile returned and your hello greeted with a friendly "Hi". Because if you don't get out and smile and say hello and enjoy the trees and the cities and the sky and the sea and the people then what was the point of all this (in the general sense of life)? It's only a ride, and it goes up and down and is sometimes loud and scary but it's still only a ride, and sooner or later it stops. Oh, and make no mistake, people (even your friends) will kick you in the teeth from time to time, it happens, it's an annoying part of life and the most you can do is shrug and move on. Those people who'll knock your confidence and kick you in the teeth (metaphorically speaking) can't hurt you unless you let them. Meet them with a smile and a shrug and their power over you melts away like sugar in the rain. And despite your best intention you'll kick someone's teeth in and act the prat and say stupid things and do stupi things and all that, but that's life and it's annoying but it doesn't pay to obsess over it. Bugger all that, I'd rather meet the world with a filthy grin and a laugh, because I don't want the people who think Fear is Good win. The fear that keeps us shy and quiet and not out there singing songs and doing brilliant things. California is calling to me, and it looks like I'll be heading out that way to catch a few shows and do a bit of travelling with a fellow listee. I'm quite excited about it. I'm almost as excited about the Great Lakes Sinister Picnic happening this weekend in South Bend, Indianna. If any of you who are planning to attend have questions on how to get there, drop me a line and I'll instruct you as best I can. Be Sinister... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 13:14:37 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:14:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness of the middle distance runaway thread (EXCLUSIVE Final episode!) Message-ID: <004501c13216$821b96c0$77c8beac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> "there's the turn in for 10 roddington place", said Murdoch. Idles gently turns the steering wheel. "HOLY DUCKS!", Idles exclaimed, "The brakes aren't working!" The car, totally out of control, skids and overturns into the hedge. "Is everyone alright?" asked Sunny. "Aye, just a minor bruise that's all," said Murdoch, "Idles your driving hasn't changed a bit". "Ach, naw!" Idles shouted, "The brakes' been rigged, I wonder who can do such a thing." "Well at least everyone's safe, let's get back to work," said Jenni, "we can claim the insurance back later" So the gang crawls out of the upturned car, and made a few paces towards 10 Roddington Place, suddenly the upturned car exploded behind them. "Fuck me!", the ugly Gardner dame ejaculates, the V-bird stays silent but gave the dame a cryptic twinch of her eye. "Knock!" Idles banged on the door. There was no answer. "Knock! knock!" Idles banged on the door, waiting impatiently for someone to shout out "Who's there". "Who's there?" "Oh shut up Murdoch you're not funny", Idles chides, "let's break through the door without further ado". "Aye, ado, ken" shouts murdoch "No I SAID WITHOU..", as Idles was mumbling she sees Murdoch clutches his hands generated a fireball that he fired into the door, the door was instantly incinerated as well as the whole of the doorway. "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!", said V-Bird in her pretend cockney accent with a hint of Birmingham twang that she couldn't hide. The gang giggled, but their giggles didn't last very long, the man inside was dead. Buried in his own peacock feather, drowned in his own peacock juice. "You burnt him to death you moron!" cried Idles "he was our only clue!" "No, burnt wasn't his cause of death", said Jenni as she took off her blue dufflecoat and puts on her white dufflecoat with pockets on it reveals a badge, "Dr Jenni Quincy M.E.", it read. She continued, "Look at the cuts on his throat." "Who cut him to death like this then??" asked Sunset. "NOOOOO!" Exclaimed Dr Jenni, "DON'T YOU SEE! His veins are saturated with taurine!! DON'T YOU SEE! He didn't die of the cut wound! I think someone is hiding something and sure as hell I'm gonna find it out!" Jenni storms out of the scene. The rest of the group followed. ===================================== Jenni finds her old friend, Laura Llew, who has the whereabouts of everyone on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean after compiling a network of illegal music trade, "I need your help," she said, "I need to locate Chu". "I'm afraid no can do, i can find her i can find you, but I sure as hell cannot find chu", said Laura Llew. "I have cupid in my cellar, tho, if you want him." "No it's ok, I've had enough love recently after meeting JenOwl, she's been in a girls only phase, I'll let you have her number one day", replied Jenni, as she closed the door and walked out of the building. "THUMP!" was the last sound Jenni hears before she slumps onto the ground. ==================================== Jenni woke up with her hands tied behind the chair, the room was pitch dark, but no longer, the lights were turned on as she heard the flick of a finger, and she knew exactly who he was, who else, can make a flicking noise with only one finger? "Chu!" Jenni said. "Hello there," said Chu, "It is a pleasure, meeting Dr. Quincy herself, normally it'd be even more of a pleasure when a gorgeous girl as you is here tied up in my chair" Jenni blushes, Chu continues, "but this time, I have a favour to ask." "What favour are you possibly going to ask! Why don't you just poison me with Taurine like you did to peacock!" said Jenni. "I thought you were good.." said Chu "I'm disappointed, I ask you, did you find any Glucuronolactone in the man's blood?" Jenni's eye sparkled, "No! You're right, if he was poisoned with bull's blood he would have been heavy laden with Glucuronolactone! How could I have missed it!" "Maybe you need some stimulation for the body and mind, my dear." said Chu. "Okay easy now, so I was wrong, but who was the killer?" asked Jenni. "The same man who was behide everything." said Chu, "and I need you to trap him." ========================================== Jenni wakes up the next morning dressed in nothing but a duvet, "Oh him", she moans, but quietly grins, Vodka and bulls blood always gets the better out of her. Chu had already left, leaving only a note "You are my only hope." Jenni gathers up the gang, and sets out on their plan, "Honey's bar, at the same time as when the Chinaman goes to the dentist", the gang nods. At 2:30, the gang arrives at Honey's bar, "Ok, begin operation Purple Furrydice" Idles said "You may be wrong but I am right but Tennington is not the best author ever" The Narrow Wizard replied "That is not true but the word fuck is an acronym" Jenni exclaimed "No, you silly people, you should make a badge that says 'I love Ken Chu' on it" The ugly dame said, "The worse football player ever is Andy Cole" Suddenly, bursted through the door came a man, with a purple jumper looking slight dazed but with one eye focused as acutely as Ken Chu is a cutey, holding a glass of Gin and Tonic in his hand. "Cole!" he shouted. Jenni acts fast, as soon as the sight of the purple man is seen she grabs hold of his arms and sets him into a full nelson. "We've been expecting you," said Jenni, "Mr Pine Fox". "Lloyd Cole Lloyd Cole Lloyd Cole", the PF replied. "Ah, it's been a long week, " said Idles in relief, "but finally, the ..." before she could continue, she felt a gun pointed to her back. "Finally, you are history, I think you mean, " the voice behind Idles said, "you fucked in the head psycho fan" "Editor, you're here!", said the PF. "Steven Wells!" Idles shouts, "I should have known!" "Well it's never late than never, but I'm afraid after this trigger, you'd be gone forever", said Wells. "That's rhymes fuckin' worse than Travis lyrics!!!" shouts sweetie as she bursts into the room and disarms Steven Wells, "ok! You slitty peepered thirty year old man, you've played your final chord" "Sweetie you saved us! But what took you so long?" asked Idles. "Um, why are you guys so early? I got here now at 3pm, that's when my Chinese friend went to the dentist last time" The gang pats sweetie in the head, as the criminals were led to their cell. ==================================== A year later, the gang reunioned for a drink at honey's bar, and reminisced that time last year when all hell were broken loose. The group smiled and sighed at the ups and downs, as Idles joked about everyone chipping in on her insurance bill. "You've missed out on all the action, little girl", Jenni gently whispered to young Pika, "I wonder where your dad is now...", she quietly sighed and looked upon the sky. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 15:26:29 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:26:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: Cay with a C's song Message-ID: <6.1b41936c.28c0f895@aol.com> Have you ever noticed the effects that pigtails have on a person? A gene that only comes into play when your hair is tightened with two pieces of elastic must spark it off. Anyway, my hair is now long enough for me to have two teensy ones at the back of my head which, combined with my glasses make me look "damn cute" according to the Popkitten. They certainly contributed to my mood last night, or maybe that was just sparked off from going to see Josie and the Pussycats. I had a really boring day at work yesterday (it was the more boring of my two jobs which involved me placing 1000 labels onto 1000 pieces of paper and attaching tassels to pieces of cardboard * yawn *) so it was with great glee that I accepted the Popkitten's suggestion that we go out that night to the cinema to see something silly and then play DDR. She arrived with freshly dyed hair, wailing that she was ashamed to show her face in public because she looked like a Goth (Her hair was supposed to be bluey-black and just turned out to be black instead) so to cheer us up, we bought a big bag of sweeties and went to see Josie and the Pussycats. It was well ace! It had Oz from Buffy as a member of a really silly and highly amusing boyband. The bit when they emerge after landing in a Metallica gig made me giggle really loudly. Plus there was a really cute boy in it who looked like one of my old boyfriend's so that made me super-happy. I really pity anybody who sits in front of or behind me and the Popkitten in a cinema as we get really loud and silly and giggle and shout "Yey!" at stuff we like. After that, we decided to go and play DDR. DDR is aceness…I finally know what that evil seducer Ken Chu was going on about now. We played it three times, and I managed to lose my shoe halfway through dancing to "Video Killed the Radio Star." My little sister is ace at it, she's always there and can dance on a really fast track on super-advanced level or something. I however am crap at it. The Popkitten managed to get 37 combos. I only got 2. People kept watching us too, which was embarrassing, especially when my shoe went flying. Oops. For some reason last night, I kept smiling at everybody and everything seemed to be beautiful and alright in my world. It's not, it never is really. But for some reason last night, it didn't matter. It just evaporated into the air as me and the Popkitten skipped along the embankment of the dual carriageway singing Clinic songs, as I wrote a note to the waitress who served us at Pizza Hut to thank her for smiling at me and being lovely and that she really should go and play DDR next door because it rocks more than pop rocks. I sent silly text messages to the lovely James and ate lollypops and asked the people at the cinema to give me free posters for my new room. Perhaps the best bit about last night was the walk home. The bus stop near my house is only a two minute walk way, and when I got off the bus home from the cinema, Radiohead's "How to disappear completely" was on my discman. It's always been my favourite song on Kid A, and when I heard them play it in Oxford in the rain it was the most beautiful event of the whole evening. I was on my own, and it was a fairly clear night. You could see the stars peeping out in the spaces between clouds and the moon gave everything a gorgeous translucent glow. It was getting fairly cold, which gave the whole scene an edge to it, made it more real somehow. I always play my music on my discman loud, much to the chagrin of passengers on buses and trains, and last night was no exception. Thom's voice swoops down on you from afar, it ripples, it swells with volume and emotion almost to breaking point, set off beautifully with the accompanying guitars. It was the lyrics though that really got to me. I've walked down that road on the way home so many times and in so many different situations for years. I've skipped down that road, sang down that road, held hands with various people on the way home on that road, dreaded what was to come when I reached the end of that road…and it occurred to me last night that I won't be walking down that road to go home for much longer. I leave soon to start new things in a different place, leave the past behind as it were. "In a little while, I'll be gone…the moment's already past, yeah it's gone…" The music spread through me, it's beauty seemed to be a part of me. I watched the clouds drift by and counted the stars and realised how big the world was and how even though I'm going to a different part of it, the stars and the moon would always be the same, they would always be there. It reminded me of one night when I was talking to the boy in the tree on the phone and we both went into our back gardens to look at the moon together. Even though we were far away from each other, in different places and environments, we were both looking at the same thing and therefore in a sense we were together. All the way home I look to the skies and the stars and the moon. When I reach my house, I sit on the pavement outside, look at the sky and play the song again. I'm sorry this isn't Belle and Sebastian related…but to me it was beautiful. And if this isn't a list where beauty is discussed on a daily basis then I've obviously been reading the wrong posts. - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- -- - - - - - - - - Manchester picnic people! When, when when!! I'll be happy to help with the organisation of the whole thing so long as it is in the next three weeks. If anybody wants to email me about it with offers of help and hugs off list, then it would really be appreciated. It's obvious that there is a lot of interest in this thing, and why should London have all the pic-a-nic-ing fun? As for the end of the Indie-thread saga…hahaha…the powers of Doctor Photojenni triumph once again. Obviously Mr Chu, as evil as he is, has good taste and knows my weakness for Vodka and Red Bull. However sir, where are the maintenance payments for young Pika? Her DDR addiction is getting out of hand now, and I need to pay therapist bills and the suchlike * giggle * I'm a bit perturbed at the whole someone-on-list wanting to put me in car crushed thing though. I'm not that evil. No, honest. Love and Lollipops Cay xXx P.S. Jim, your post was absolutely lovely. It's always nice to know that someone sees the beauty prevalent in an often grey world. P.P.S. Hopefully I've got evil AOL 6.0 problems sorted out now. A heeeeooooggee huggle to everybody who helped me out and sympathised with the dire evils of AOL. P.P.P.S I just got my Benicassim photos back! And there's one of me with Struan! And he looks absolutely adorable! My mum thought he was my summer romance when I showed her the pictures, and I haven't yet had the heart to tell her who he really is… "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go, Now Pickled Onion Monster Munch? They're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 18:18:53 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:18:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: wrong song, whoops! Message-ID: thanks to everyone who told me it was the magnetic fields who did the 'chicken with it's head cut off' song sorry for saying it sounded like 'the model', the song i meant was 'family tree' so thats why you were all confused, cheers :) hi to all my new msn type buddies, (waves) this one's dead short isn't it?! bye for the noo Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 19:52:38 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Submarine Message-ID: <20010831185238.84278.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> So this is how the summer ends. With torrents and flooded gutters. I left home (home!) today just as the rain started battering down. By the time I reached the station I was so wet, I might as well have been in the shower, fully clothed. Then the rain ceased its hostilities, and left me undercover and wailing internally about nature's seeming injustice. At the time it was terrible, but I can smile about it now. I remember when it was all quiz nights around here. The bus through the deep blue evenings over Waterloo Bridge and down to the space-age architecture of Rotherhithe. The questions about time zones and airports, and always about Reality TV, presumably so that I could have something about which that I could be satisfied, rather than sorry, to be ignorant. Chris Perriman pulled the joke of the day by replacing his bonkers claim that the old Foxgloves song 'Chicken In A Bucket' sounds like 'The Model' with the seemingly even more bonkers claim that it sounds like 'Family Tree'. The trouble is, this claim is not 100% bonkers. Essentially the songs are very dissimilar; but there is just about enough resemblance at the level of the chords of their respective verses (let's say, G-D-F-C; A-E-G-D) to make the claim impossible utterly to dispel; unless anyone thinks they can do it, and wants to do it for me. Me, my fingers grow tired. Heather emerged from nowhere and referred to Lloyd Cole. If you're not going to say much, you might as well allude to Lloyd, that's what I say; and she did. Chu referred to me in his tale. I appreciated that, as no other frigger had done so. Though Chu's grasp of tense was poor, I thought his feel for detail actually rather good. There was the colour; the gin & tonic; the random references to Lloyd Cole; the Editor - yes, Chu did a pretty good job, there, if truth be told, though next time I want him to improve on this offering and write 2500 words about how grate I am. Geneva Fairport wrote about London and Glasgow and set the heather ablaze. Her post seemed to ring bells and spark flints. In fact - I have just remembered it - amid all the fab detail, she referred to the pinefox too. Astoundingly - this really is remarkable and worth reporting - she alluded to an UNWRITTEN SONG by the pinefox. In an age when most people don't even bother with the written ones, that is pure class. I fear that the San Francisco picnic, in all its exotic improbability, is a potent rival for the Great Lakes one which is said to be happening round the corner. What has happened to the Lakes picnic? Has everyone gone jumped in the lake? And why can't that last sentence be correct? It's not fair. The cars are rushing through puddles and churning up endless raindrops outside. So this is how the summer ends. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 20:09:18 2001 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: We have ONE extra ticket for the Sept. 8th SF Show Message-ID: <20010831190918.61364.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> If someone wants it, it's a floor seat and will cost you $30. If you are interested e-mail me at brandtpfundak at yahoo.com. I'll then tell you how to contact me in California. My e-mail usage over the next few days will be sporadic at best, so if I don't get back to you immediately, don't fret. I probably haven't seen it yet. However, it's First come, first serve, so if you don't hear back from us, that means we sold it. So it's in your best interests to e-mail me as soon as you see this. Cheers! Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mikesjobeck at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 21:03:55 2001 From: Mikesjobeck at xxx.com (Mikesjobeck at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:03:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: If we all went back to another time... Message-ID: <66.13d0f8ac.28c147ab@aol.com> One of those astonishing mornings when it seems the entire history of the planet is all at once converging inwardly upon my delicate, seafaring nature. Oh! You see, I live a seashell toss away from the Pacific Ocean on a little island actually, here on the coast of California where so often I walk UN-wearily and rather passionately the complete circumference of these delightful dimensions! This morning I brought with me once again the "beautiful" lyrics and musik of our dear "Belle and Sebastian" and so I thought to share a few of my impressions, the way one feels when they are staggering against a brisk sea-wind, kicking up pebbles and sand and the time of another age when there appears just beyond the crashing, fragrant surf signs that you are whole-heartedly ALIVE and CONTENT and the breathing music only reinforces this! A lone gull goes soaring outward upon that golden morning sea... The spindrift from the waves are gusting off from the shoreline, coming in to tickle your nose and wanderlust spirit... "A century of fakers" (live version) inspires you to pick up your pace and bow to imaginary literary figures of the past... Here came "Werther" came "Onegin" came "Rashkolnikov" and finally "knulp" All weaving their saltwater logged bodies evanescently from out the sea and into a half remembered world that somehow you have now become a part of? Ah! And yet again a spooky witch in a sexy dress somehow snaps you out of it!! And you go on furthur... Westward now until in the distance you see once more, weather-beaten redwoods sliding down from the bluffs and stumbling into the torn surf over a period of centuries... The witch has ditched her dress! Grabbed her dirty broom and now is wearing red lingeries and nothing else! She leaps off skyward into the breeze, aloft with the bright morning against her pale flesh and veers above the tips of those swaying gallows, suddenly disappearing into the shadowy undergrowth of the forest... She will be back!!! Now you think of other more pressing matters! And turn homeward bound... Only 5 more days until your most "favourite" band in the world is set to grace the entire WestCoast of America!!!! You go over your checklist once more but even more excitedly than the last time! 1966 Satellite tuned and ready to roar 2 thousand miles? =s YES!!! Tickets in hand to all shows?? =s YES!!!! except for Portland, since there has been a terrible mailing mis-hap you must clear up TODAY!!! Do you know where all the "pic a nics" will be and when??? Naturally NO!!! :( Im not a clairvoyant damn it! But a hell of a frisbee player YES! :) Will you write Sinister for Hjelp? ... YES!!! Will you piss some of them off? YES!!!! :0 Oh!!!! But you have to exuse my delerium since it is only Sandrine and I who have always LOVED this band and now they are actually going to make this epic Voyage!!!!! And everyone else on the island have been bombarding us with 3rd class JUNK! without the slightest trace of orginal artistic merit :/ so YES!!!! YES!!!! YES!!!! My eyes are truely filled with tears of JOY!!!! And the sea continues, just as it was.... The fairest of dreams Sjolander p.s dear sinisters!!!! please forward any "pic a nic" information:) much obliged.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Aug 31 22:12:31 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:12:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The phone is dead... another finger won't hurt; in fact, it makes the phone look like the diminutive bakelite moulded communications device it occassionally tries to be Message-ID: <3B8FFDBE.A6CC3FE2@netscapeonline.co.uk> SCENERY Today at lunchtime was another 40 minutes by the side of the river. A couple of lovers were sat upon the rock from which I had, yesterday, made some sketches of the stone and the water, attempting to calculate how the movement, liquidity and varying focal depths might be rendered using a black biro on cheap writing paper. I made more attempts today, from a different spot. A (most probably retired) gentleman manouvered past me towards, as it later turned out for him, the wrong way as I sketched from a timber platform suspended around the base of a classical folly called St. Bernard's Well: erected, " at the sole expense of Francis Garden, Esq. of Troupe, one of the senators of the College of Justice" in 1789. Of the manouvering, the cyclist remarked that the excercise, given the tight dimensional constraints, would be achievable with me remaining in the seated position 'because we have time'. Farther downstream, a young woman sat in the lotus position on a bench, singing to herself. The results of my sketching are, of course, that of an amateur of scant practice. However, I've found the process of looking and hearing in the riverine environment strangely related to, but like a soothingly differentiated form of the manipulation of all the setting-out computer aided design plotfiles and their associated cross-referenced files (three levels; two sheets per level; 3 reference files per sheet) to be dealt with before and after these lunchtimes. Complexity is a tormenting fascination. PICNICS Picnic. 'A fashionable entertainment' enthuses the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary. The word lies between 'Pickwickian' and 'Picoid', which means 'like woodpeckers'. How bucolic. However, the fashion these days is for the artificial landscape: concrete jungles and... that vista of polished timber known as the bowling alley. The latter is to be found, Edinburgh-wise, in Fountainbridge: http://www.bowluk.co.uk/CentreDetails.asp?Centre=Edinburgh%20Megabowl&Location=Edinburgh There's a link to a map there, too. The suggestion is as follows: I thought maybe whoever might like to, could go bowling there starting, say, at 2pm on the 15th September, 2001, beacause Mister 'Breams' Jeremy is coming to visit from far away, and he seems like a really nice sorta guy. 15th is a Saturday, btw, and, so, hopefully, many lovely people will chalk it onto their personal blackboards. Even if you're decidedly unlovely, you're still really, really welcome. It's not stopping yours truly, after all... but don't let that put you off :). Buses go there from the centre of town (it's within walking distance too, if you know where you're going). Unfortunately, the private jets will have to be left at the airport so... book that limo now. Had we done the picnic a few days ago, we'd have been able to celebrate Sean Connerysh' 71st birthday in his birthplace. Fountainbridge is exactly like all the glamorous settings from the Bond movies, given sufficient imagination. I suppose if you were to nick one of the local's DB5's, though, it would have the kind of manually operated ejector seat known as a shove out the door sideways rather than a rocket-propelled exit upwards. Q, unfortunately, is no longer around to advise upon the possibility of customisations. ... And, erm, if no one says they're going to come I suggest we gate crash Harry's flatwarming party in Glasgow instead. Please E-mail me with complaints, comments, alternative suggestions or whatever takes your fancy at present 'cause, to be honest, I'm a bit lost as to where to go from this initial suggestion:) MUSIC Miss Llew (guys are supposed to namecheck Llew like the girls are supposed to namecheck Chu) would probably be horrified if I attempted to purchase Hefner's 'Dead Media' from Amazon so, any other suggestions? I want this song that has 'Peppermint' in the title: here was me thinking Hefner did dirges and Peelie plays this terribly cute, slightly melancholy number of theirs, with analogue bleeps and squirts and a bit like, eek! Yazoo. Or Maybe not: I only heard it once, whilst doing something else, i.e. chatting on #sini. This week's CD recommendation: EMI presents the magic of RONNIE RONALDE [thanking 'Rich' Richard for remembering the name off the Peelie show, with assistance from an electromagnetic recording] he was a massive star of light entertainment and ... whistles... a lot. One imagines James Bond at 5am in the late forties on his Milk float in Fountainbridge (he used to be a milkman, did our Shonne). Whistling. Picoid stylee. LONG POST This does seem like a long post. I'm still not really sure if long posts are good, because they took ages to write; or bad, because they presume one will spend ages reading it. OTHER PEOPLE I recently read Dimitra and Dahling posts at breakfast, which were lovely. I wrote a post in response which I knew I wouldn't sent and I didn't, but your posts gave me cause to think, even if I can't remember exactly what, at the moment. Pinefox seems to be in a cabal involving real people like 'Mr. Moore' 'Trousers' and a guy living, vicariously, one might add, in the 'Saracen's Head'.. oh yes.. 'Mr. Miller' alongside the likes of Molly Bloom and literary fictions mingled, to disarming effect, with literary facts. Rob from the sea and another Llew post, something from Velocity; Mandee's Chandler... it's well, 1400 or so people... OTHER FICTIONAL PEOPLE Ms. Francine Euro-Mark was a collector of letters. Having spent the greatest part of her... If I go on any more you might think I'm meaning something, which wouldn't do at all:) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri Aug 31 22:14:29 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:14:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Diseased Pig Cured Message-ID: Hello everyone. This list has been chock full of beauty and thought and amazing things recently. I thought, "this is so wonderful, I think I'm going to sully it up with a post!" So here I am... I'm broke again. I keep doing this to myself. Does anyone have any spare will power they can give me? I spent an entire paycheck on old New Order and Felt records last week. I'm just terribly weak. I saw the Counting Crows (don't kill me!) in New Orleans on Monday. The show was weak, but I was standing in bad area. Anyway, I found out that Wilco will be playing there next month, so I'm very excited (and even more broke). Did "Get Ready" come out in the UK already? If so, that's just not fair. I can't wait until October . Perhaps I'll import it. Is it any good? The new Bjork is lovely, although I kinda miss her dancier stuff sometimes. Some of it reminds me a lot of mum though, especially cocoon. Kudos to the Runaway Thread, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Where might I acquire the film rights? Who would play Ken Chu? Perhaps Dame Judi Dench or maybe Gary Oldman for the Laura Llew cameo. Speaking of my favorite alliteration, didn't somebody call her a pimp of books or something along those lines? Then a rather llurid Llew sillustration appeared. Have we know shame? This is one of our icons people! She should be treated with more respect! I'm only joking of course. You're all fantabulous you know. Too much hot chocolate and ramen noodles. I'm sweating very badly and feeling lightheaded. It will be interesting to read all this in a normal frame of mind. I think a bunny just scooted through my office. What happened with Kirsten Kenyon's friend? I wish I had someone who wanted to be like me. Sadly, I usually want to be like someone else. I suppose Kirsten's just that glamorous. When I read posts, I think of things that I'd like to say about particular subjects all the time. I can't remember any of them right now. Logic dictates I should not post and wait for something important to say, but with all this sugar, who needs logic??!! I need to dance. All this DDR talk and New Order (and sugar) has made me a bit hyper. My sister saw Staind in London the other night. With all the great bands coming through London, she sees Staind, who played less than an hour away from me about a month ago. What a waste, but to each his/her own I suppose... Okay, that's all for now. I, for one, love dimitra's posts. Very moving indeed. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahs0 at xxx.uk Fri Aug 31 21:21:30 2001 From: ahs0 at xxx.uk (Adam uni) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:21:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello, is it safe? Message-ID: <004901c1325a$8aab1d80$883afea9@h5a2u0> hi everyone, As I can tell from the curious looks on your faces, you've noticed I'm a new'en. I wasn't sure what to write in my first email to you all, it feels a little like going for a job interview. I suppose the best place to start would be to tell you about me. I'm 19, male (incase you didn't already suss that) and I'm about to start my second year at aberystwyth uni. I'm afraid I'm neither pasty-faced or a vegan, so I hope I don't recieve too much stick over that. :o) I've never read anything about a welsh picnic on the list, but if there are any other sinisterions in wales, I'd really like to go to one. At the moment I'm at my non-uni home in rugeley, a small-ish town in staffordshire. I've just watched the England V. Germany game which made me smile, although I have to confess to knowing nothing about football. I've had a really good summer home with my friends, well, till I crashed my dads car 2 days ago, but its only plastic and metal, is it wicked not to care? (no-one was hurt) I'm quite a newbee to the joys of B & S really. I was first introduced to them by my nihalist friend when I was 18, in the last year of 6th form. Although I opt for a more negative utillitarianist philosophy, we have very similar music tastes since that epiphany. In the interests of not 'hyping up' this first email lark, I'm going to leave it there. But if you ever want to know anything, just ask. Smile! Adam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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