Sinister: Aretha Franklin said it best
JAMES GILMER
patchworkz7 at xxx.com
Thu Aug 23 17:00:53 BST 2001
Hullo Sinister children,
So, is it in any way possible for the list to go on for a week without some
MAJOR bloody disturbence that gets everyone's knickers in a twist? I guess
not, eh?
For the record, I like to give poor Lauren a vote of full public support for
her indie rantings post, not so much because I fully agree with her (and I
do agree a great deal with her) but because I've read enough slagging of the
'masses' and the 'hard kids' and the 'townies' to be well pleased when
someone gives the pretentious few a good, hard slgagging. Oh, and what's the
problem with hippies, I've seen them given a bit of a slagging as well, I
like hippies. Pretty girls, good music, and a nice philosophy.
All anyone wants is a bit of respect, and I don't care if you're agnostic or
atheist (like me) or buddist or whatnot, if you honestly think the music one
listens to is an indicator of the type of person they are, you are in
desperate need of a fucking life.
If anyone actually belives that; "It is not what you are like, it's what you
like" you are a pretentious twat. High Fidelity was a good book, and a good
movie, but I'm not basing my world view on what Nick Hornby thinks, thanks.
Besides the fact that I thought the whole thing was a pisstake and a fairly
accurate slagging of music snobs.
Oh, woe is me, the hard kids made fun of me, people don't bloody understand
me, the masses listen to shit music, 'those people' control the world...what
absolute crap.
I've taken plenty of shit from people on a wide range of subjects, but you
know what, the 'indie' movement is not a disenfranchised minority, any
attempt to compare them to the civil rights movements of blacks or gays is
downright insulting.
The masses? You take their individuality away everytime you refer to them in
that sense. Yes, they are individuals, believe it or not. You learn these
things when you take the time to give a damn about people instead of your
own world view.
People use indie style to get girls? I don't think I have a style, or if I
did, it most likely be a pretty square style. Funny, I've gone out with and
been friends with girls from all across the spectrum, indie girls, punk
girls, abercrombie girls. You know what? They were all sweet, vibrante,
lovely young ladies, regardless of what music they listened to or what
clothes they wear.
I don't really think I'd like a person, girl or otherwise, to whom clothes
or music were the deciding factor in whether they talked to me/liked me,
etc. I'd probably think they were very shallow.
Not that people shouldn't have things in common, but there's a lot of things
besides music and clothes to have in common.
Look, it's just about respect, and I don't respect any of you on your choice
of music. I don't respect you based upon the clothes you wear. I respect
people on the choices they make and why they make them. When a person comes
up to me they are a cipher until they open their mouth, then they earn or
lose my respect.
I think what annoys some of us, is that the idea of indie, just like the
idea of 'alternative' was that the scenes were supposed to be free of all
that crap. It wasn't supposed to be about what you wear or the exact music
you listen too, it was supposed to be about breaking molds, not forming new
ones.
You're all wonderful, intelligent individuals. Bright, sometimes warm,
sometimes funny, and mostly very nice people. Don't let your own
insecurities cut you off from the world, because you are no different, no
better, no more or less pretentious or worthy than anyone else. My sig quote
at the bottom pretty much sums up my feelings on the whole mess.
There's a big, wonderful, multiplex world out there that we can all live in.
All it takes is being respectful and smiling a bit. A smile and a bit of
respect will take you farther than you would have thought possible.
Personally, I think we need a new topic to get in a huff about. I present;
"Ribena is over-priced Kool-aid and tastes like piss".
You may commence posting your rightious indignation to my slander of Ribena.
Be happy people, go out and play in the sunshine with pretty boys and rude
girls.
Jim
"I haven't feel geeky or dumb since I was 17. I don't feel marginalised or
outmoded and neither should anyone else in this thriving, multiplex society.
When will successful, creative, intelligent people stop thinking of
themselves as childlike outsiders and start engaging with the real
high-stakes world? Wake up fanboy, wake up fangirl.
Don't you want to rule the world?" - Grant Morrison
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