From rosseta at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 01:48:48 2001 From: rosseta at xxx.com (Rosseta) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:48:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The cat done wrong again Message-ID: Booooooooooooooo When I opened that account, this damn connection kept the name of my owner !!!! I´m going to scratch this connection !!!! *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssss* =^..^= Sent by MeowMail.com http://www.meowmail.com The online colony for today's well-wired cats and their human valet. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 00:14:08 2001 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:14:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: PYC, pretty young chu Message-ID: <20011201001408.57901.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinisters and breather-ins. when i see kenneth p y chu in my mailbox, i think of "pyc" by michael jackson. i remember listening to the record at my piano teacher's house while she was away at the grocery.. loving it so much. when she'd come back, i'd of course be in trouble for not practicing, but when you're in 4th grade and you're left alone with the choice of scales & arpeggios or playing LPs on a fancy stereo at your teacher's house, what are you gonna do? also, when i think of michael jackson, i think of germans. and the time when my german friend's little sister and brother would taunt me by slipping notes under the bathroom door (the only place i could seek solace from their torment) that said things like "du bist tot." and i would wonder if they were only writing me notes using simple words i knew to be polite, or if they really wanted me dead... and then sometimes i think about the time belle & sebastian did a cover of "billie jean" and i almost fainted with joy. it was sooooo grate that i cried, ever so happily bouncing in my seat. i was happy enough to almost jump over the railing to my death, for what could be a happier ending.. but then i would have landed on top of my ex-boyfriend who was bobbing his head to the tune as if it was the coolest thing ever, when he had teased me previously for covering the same song in my own band. but then he was a jerk anyway, and it took some time for me to wake up to us. (note to sinister: never date a man ten years older than you unless you love absolutely every detail about him, cos guess what: he'll never change! arg.) and i must take sides with rachel fruitloop about being [some age older than 25], looking like you're still a young lassie, and looking forward to middle age.. i think i've had enough mid-life crises already that by the time i get there, i will rejoice at knowing i'm half done! oh, and rachel, i am ever so glad *he* is coming to see you! i am no nay-sayer on that account! i suppose that is enough of a post from me today. i am a bit off-kilter, as i've stayed home from work for no reason other than to give myself a mullet. yes, that's what i said. i think the feminie touch to a choppy little mullet is just what this cat needs to feel a change. i've wanted to do it since summer, but haven't had more than 2 minutes to stand in front of the mirror with scissors. so i did it. and than i took one of those showers that when you're done, you think "am i done already!?" and spin around a few more times trying to find something to do in there. i read it in a magazine: "argyle is the new black." do you think they're waking up to us? juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 00:36:38 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:36:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: laterz with joolz holland Message-ID: he's got webbed feet that Jools Holland y'know. So does Rachel from Sclub 7 apparantly. But what Jools has is B&S on his TV show, something Rachel has yet to manage. And he has Isobel in a very nifty denimy outfit with what looks like a natty tigerskin (fake of course kids) hat, Stu in a nice black jumper for Magic of a kind Word followed by quick costume change (taking off jumper) to reveal a white tshirt for I'm waking up to us. He dances a bit during MOFAKW but looks arkward in front of the cameras. ahhh bless. During IWUTU Stu does what I think is a cross between Bowie and Lydon but minus the arrogance and huge coke habit. And IWUTU still sounds like Love which is of course A Good Thing. His hair looks nice. His mum probably thinks it needs a cut. and now they are playing a jaunty Boy With the Arab Strap and the whole crowd are clapping along. and just out of picture i am sure that the Lighthouse Family, Feeder and Tom Jones (not a vintage edition of Later really) are bopping along like their lives depended upon it. That might be mere hearsay. B&S also win "most members on stage" competition fending off a late run by the Lighthouse Family backing singers. and he's looking down at the piano and the words are fading out..wanking waitress with cools sets in london and its fading out and fading out and this post has got to end with a wild round of applause right about.... now. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 00:44:22 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:44:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Final Reminder: Sinister meet-up-Tomorrow/Chicago Message-ID: One last time with feeling: When: Tomorrow (Saturday, December 1st)at 3:00 PM What: Sinister Meet-up Where: Chicago Art Museum lobby next to gift shop Who: All the cool kids Why: Why not? How: By any means necessary Look for the short spikey-haired git in the wool coat and black glasses standing by the gift shop doors. That is all ye know, and all ye need know. (however, if it isn't all ye need know, drop me a line and I'll try to sort it out) Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 08:58:17 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:58:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the magic of a drunk word Message-ID: <001401c17a46$599ac860$c4f17ad5@aqlzosqt> have just been out for tapas and alcohol (mainly alcohol) with - god help me - work colleagues, so please excuse any typos in the following text. i just watched jools holland, who is an annoying twat, not doubt about it. 'welcome. tolater. with. MEJOOLS. holland. now, belleand SEBASTIAN with. THE magic of. A. KIND. word. still, you can't deny his eclecticism. endearing energy from feeder, proper blues with a modern twist from boz scaggs (is that any sort of name?). wrinkly pop from tom jones. crap covers from the lighthouse family (who all have either too much or too little hair). etc. the lowest point was the awful mutual back-slapping between tom and jools. on the other hand, there was undeniably boogie. and woogie. magic of a kind word was underwhelming as an opener. isobel looked as bored as ever. but IWUTU was great, and struan's white t-shirt (arms of sex) could hardly fail to please the girlies, though he did look strained. perhaps it was that fake schoolboy enunciation taking its toll. b&s finished with TBWTAS complete with struan on paino, which was a nice surprise - plus isobel not only smiled, but also donned a sombrero and played the recorder. which is not to be sniffed at. today i also read that independent interview. stuart comes across as a bit whiny, unfortunately. not happy with mike hurst's work on IWUTU, felt that todd solonz didn't make full use of their contribution to storytelling, etc. he also nearly had a nervous breakdown while recording 'fold your hands...' on the other hand he thinks the band are performing better live now than ever before. afficionados who say that this wouldn't be hard are simply uncharitable... for the full interview, which was interesting despite factual errors, go to: http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=107508 blimey, i stink of garlic. riocha and tortilla and calimari are beginning to take their toll... luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 02:14:25 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:14:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a queer one from the start Message-ID: Hello. another friday night on the job. good thing it's not too demanding. what i'm doing besides work to kill the time: 1) wrapping big boxes in lovely foiled christmas paper to set out for my local toys for tots campaign 2) listening to an electrician tell me that if i never get married or have children, he'll keep me supplied in batteries (ha!). he's having a rough time with his daughter. a little too rough, he won't stop pacing. he's advising me to stay "aunt amy" to my friends children and never put myself through the agony of being a parent. 3) trying to figure out who in their right mind would send me a crush! goodness! lil' ol' me??? if someone doesn't fess up, i'm going to crush on all of you! 4) listening to tigermilk 5) drinking copious amounts of coffee 6) taking phone calls from girlfriends about our night out planned for saturday (sorry chicago) 7) calling around to see if i can get better prices on faucets and such for my bathroom. i paid $150.00 today for some new bathtub water works 'cuz, well, it's too long too explain. a repairman is coming by saturday (another reason i couldn't go to chicago) to cure my plumbing ills and it's all just getting so costly. but, it will help save in the long run too. my water bill is trippled and my gas bill, you don't even want to know.... 'cuz i'm wasting so much hot water right now. 8) mailing sinister! wow! it's really bad when you email people about your plumbing. maybe i should go back to this book about the taliban i picked up the other day..... a "liberal reader" the woman at the hallmark store called me as i purchased said item. ha. or, i could write a pocket novel about the state that i am in, 'cuz it's an interesting one. i don't feel "christmas-y" yet. there's no snow. so, it's just not happening. i like lists. today, as i left a hardware store, i saw a group of about 60 school kids dressed up all goofy and touting instruments. i imagine it was the local jr. and high school kids making some christmas-y rounds. they followed me out of the parking lot for a moment. 60 kids in stripes, leopard prints, clashing argiles and clown suits banging away on their drums and such, following the super tempo. i wish they would follow me around all the time, during the day that is. would make the odd trip out for milk a bit more .... of an event. belle and sebastian song of the day: "she's losing it" amy knows a tub that's been abused it changed her financially and put her in a mood she's always redoing her pilot light she freaks out about it every night sometimes goes elsewhere to shower her back she's using loofas and sponges and rags she wishes someone would help her out 'cuz her wallet's got a lot to be mad about and just after the first tooth brush she knows she's losing it, oh yeah, she's losing it when the first stream of water takes a rusty dump she knows she's losing it oh yeah she's losing it amy met andy, a plumber who's keenly new he didn't charge too much and took away her blues until he showed her another bill and she tossed a few amy was the girl who's unlucky too her pocketbook is broken and kisses are few she says, "cent for cent and pound for pound who needs a plumber when I'M AROUND?" and with the first dew of morning she knows she's losing it, oh yeah, she's losing it when the millionth stream of water costs her a whole bunch she knows she's losing it, oh yeah, she's losing it when she shuts off the hot water just to save a buck she knows she's losing it, oh yeah, she's losing it adlib to fade, la dee da. and ta ta and hello and goodbye and love to all, amy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Sat Dec 1 05:31:50 2001 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:31:50 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Strange mailing from Stu D Message-ID: Hullo sinister, long time no write. anyway, just wanted to know if any of you got a bizarre email from Stuart David today containing something that i think is supposed to be an mp3, but it's not got the right file type/creator listings to be one. No subject, no text, just this bizarre email from a treehouse.clara.net address. i won't post the whole addy, since i think that might be rude if it really is stu's address. needless to say, it made me feel special, even if i can't appreciate it. so i was wondering if anybody else got it. on different notes, i'm planning on attending la sinsietr meet-up in chicago tomorrow, but since a few of you have posted saying you won't be able to make it (c'mon jason, a bus ticket up from chambana can't be *that* expensive. ;) ), i'm slightly worried it's just going to be me and james gilmer standing in the entrance to the art institute looking sad. as for christmas jeers, i'm not really paying much attention. tho i have decorated my office with dozens of paper snowflakes i cut out of printer paper and aluminum foil hanging from the ceiling. i tried to put up lights, but then this maintenance guy walked in and said we couldn't have them or we'd be written up. dang. it's not that i'm a big fan of christmas cheer, tho i do enjoy the lights. but i hate all the perfume and electric razor ads. but there are plenty more ads i dislike even more, so i guess it's all relative. the aforementioned james gilmer posted earlier about losing an old girlfriend to her own hand, and it reminded me of a similar situation i found myself in a couple years ago. i'm not going to go into the details, but it's nice to know someone else out there has lost someone that way, and found out months later to boot. my condolences go out. tho i can just give them tomorrow, i suppose. still haven't bought the new EP, but chalk that up to laziness and a desire not to lose my parking space. when i get a reserved space behind the building, tho, there'll be no stopping me. i'll shop my little tushie off. ;) so, i've had to save your posts about the single to read after i hear it, i don't want to influence myself before my first listen. i'm also still a little sad (okay, a lot sad) that b&s didn't grace us with their presence here in the plains on this last tour. shucks. my sister got to see them in santa barbara, tho, so i suppose i'll just live vicariously through her. i saw them 3 years ago in boston, sad to say the memory's faded, though. okay, i've rambled on enough. looking forward to seeing (and meeting) some of you tomorrow. -kerry -- "red usually means caution. or beef if it's a bullion cube." -"toys" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 17:03:58 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 17:03:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stronger than alcohol, more great than song, deep in whose reeds great elephants Message-ID: Today I tried to subtly mold two impressionable youths into Belle and Sebastian fans. It�s been two weeks since I started being an �English-speaking play mate� to two 8-year-old twins. Every time I got home, exhausted, and went into #sinister to bitch about the brats, someone would inevitably ask, �So have you made them listen to Belle and Sebastian yet?� �Ha!� I always remark. AS IF I bring a B&S CD with me and slide it into the family stereo. AS IF they would appreciate. AS IF. Well, today I happened to have my laptop with me and as I taught them how to play Snood I happened to put B&S on repeat on my media player jukebox. And I left it on the entire time. Ahhh. Sweet sounds. So when one throws a tanty and the other squeals with glee and throws balls off the ceiling, I have Stu telling me it�ll all be okay. Or making some sly reference I know they will never understand. Did it calm them down any? No, not really. But by the end, the girl was recognizing songs and humming a bit. And when the music stopped, the boy asked for more. Oh yes. I shall repeat this experiment. Today I also got yelled at by the mom. AGAIN. Last time she yelled at me it was because I had allowed the twins to run around inside the house; when she came in, things were in disarray. My lesson: the kids will inevitably run around the house, but clean up after them, dumbass. Or lure them outside. Outside = GOOD. Anyway. Yesterday, I got yelled at for letting them hide in closets during hide-and-seek. Um. Where else are they going to hide??? Hmm. Today.. what was it? Oh! I didn�t eat enough. Or something. Something I forgot: yesterday, the mom stayed home and I desperately tried to think of something to keep the kids occupied and quiet in their room. I thought, wouldn�t it be nice if they wrote little letters to my sister? Yes! They will write. They will think they have a penpal. It will be good. The girl wrote a nice message, something to the effect of: �I love Stacey and I love you too.� The boy scribbled away in earnest. Then I chased the girl out of the room into another room to make cutout snowflakes and an hour later the mother cries out for the boy (Vangelis) and marches in with the letter he had been writing my sister. �Who is Sandy?� she demanded. �What is this?� she said, waving the letter around. �Er. My sister? They wrote to my sister?� I stammered. Perhaps this sounds odd? Hmmm. I hadn�t even read it. She did. �You read Greek?� she asks me. I lie and say no. So she reads it out loud to me, translating: �Dear Sandy. I love you. You make my body hot. I want to have sex with you. Will you have sex with me? Love, Vangelis.� Oh lordy. This is an EIGHT-YEAR-OLD. Needless to say, Vangelis was scolded. And my role? Um.. uncertain. Every day as I leave that house I wonder if I am going to be invited back. She fired the last girl because she �couldn�t control the kids.� And I feel that although the kids love me in some inexplicable way shocking to all involved, she keeps giving me little tests and I keep failing them. Yesterday, for instance, me and Francesca get yelled at because we left a mess in Vangelis� room. She tells us to go clean it up. Francesca refuses to go until she finishes a drawing. The mom insists. I stand there, willing Francesca to go with my eyes and thoughts. But she does not budge. So the mother looks at me and says, �you tell her!� I do, and of course she ignores me as well. Does this mean I have no control over them? Today I took a stand. I thought it would be fun to bring along my digital camera and laptop so the kids could take photos of each other and alter them on the computer and all that. It would be educational! Yes! And it would keep them quiet. Yes! Well, Vangelis really took a fancy to this camera and refused to give it back. It eventually ran out of �film� but he refused to believe he could take no more pictures. Eventually, there was a showdown in the garden. I won! I got the camera back. Then he tried to climb a wall to spy on the neighbors. I told him to come down. He did not listen (they do this innovative trick where they pretend they don�t understand English at just such moments). So I made a face at Francesca and we ran away and hid in some bushes so that he would jump off the wall and come find us. It took awhile, but it worked. He started crying though, upset that we had abandoned him, and marched inside to call him mom and tell on us. I let him, figuring this would work to my advantage. He would cry, �Mommy, Francesca and Stacey played hide-and-seek when I didn�t want to and I didn�t like it. And, well, I wanted to climb a wall and spy on the neighbors and play with her camera but she took it away and wouldn�t let me and now she turned off the tv when I wouldn�t talk to her.� And the mom would think: good, the girl�s finally disciplining the brats. He whined, then Fracesca grabbed the phone and explained (she�s got my back! Yay!) and the mom told her to run off and play with me and let Vangelis watch TV if that�s what he wanted to do. FINE WITH ME. Yar. Oh, I get mixed signals. Like, she�ll yell at me, then she comes over and says she knows some other families who might like my services, am I open to referrals? Ha! Hell yeah. And she whispers, �Their kids are better behaved than mine,� at which point I grin. She says she�d like to help me, that I�m a �good girl.� That she moves in the right circles. Or something. Hmm. Go figure. So next weekend, I meet their friend Fanny, who I already met and who was wonderful and sweet and speaks much better English. And then I will become Fanny�s �play mate� as well. This is very exciting, because there is good money in this play mate business. Spending just 8 hours a week with the brats pays my rent. A few more hours a week with a sweet-natured girl should cover food and bills. And then there�s any other kids I might pick up through her �circle,� and my actual career - writing - which occasionally brings in large sums of cash. That should cover fun things - like chocolate and cheese. Yes. I�m set. Soon I�ll be able to buy a walkman, so I�ll have something to keep me occupied during the 4 hours a day I spend traveling to these rich suburbs. Mmmm hmm. I feel a bit ill. I think it was the greasy potatoes I attempted to make for lunch. The mom left out some chicken fillets and a vat of oil, ready to receive some raw potatoes. Now, I usually shallow fry my potatoes in a big skillet, with very little oil, and they become brown and crisp and not at all disgusting and oily. But these potatoes, sizzling away in the vat of oil, became mushy and gross. As a last-ditch effort to save them, I drained them and threw them in the chicken skillet, but they did not brown. No! And the kids looked at them in disgust and refused to eat them. So I was left with a big plate of mushy potatoes. And carrots. While they ate the chicken. And carrots. An hour later, I felt like I was going to vomit. Enough about the brats already. Is this all I�m ever going to talk about now? Has my life dissolved into mindless chatter about what horrific or tantalizing things Francesca and Vangelis did today? Dear me. There was one other thing that happened this weekend. It was last night, after fleeing the brats and waiting 40 minutes for the bus, in the freezing night, with the other hired help in the neighborhood. Get this: I went - by myself - to a SHOW! Yes!!! It was only the second show I�ve ever been to in Athens, which is quite telling of the music scene here. There was a time when I would be going to an average of 10 shows a month. Now - two shows in 7 months. Anyway, it was a random band, Tilsbury Cloves or something, in a teeny CD store - the only cool CD store in the city, actually. It was a 7� release gig. It was awkward. Did I mention the store is teeny? Very. And there were all sorts of hip and semi-hip kids there, a rare site for me actually, and they all seemed to know each other. Which makes sense, considering how tiny the scene must be here, with so few shows and so few fans of such bands. I felt awkward going alone as it was, but when entire groups of people stared and pointed at me, it made it that much worse. The band was actually quite okay. They had this semi-electronic/synthesizer thing going on, and the singer at times sounded very Field Mice. There were a few sad attempts to rock out electronically, but overall, not too bad. AND there were visuals. Slides projected, backwards, against a far wall. Going to shows is such a love-hate thing. There was a time when I was so sick of going, and would spend hours debating whether to get off the couch and walk 100 feet to see a friend of a friend play drums or sing or.. whatever. Many times, if the show involved any sort of drive, it was ruled out almost immediately. What�s the point of going to a small little club, pay a few dollars to stand uncomfortably in the back of the room and scan the same small crowd of faces I had memorized years ago? And the smoke and the bad beer and running into the crazy guy I always seemed to run into. Or getting annoyed at the little twerps who think they have discovered indie. All to hear a few songs I sort of liked, played live. But now I miss it. So much. I miss the cozy feeling of being in a small area with a group of people with whom I have this unspoken bond. It doesn�t matter that I don�t speak to half the people in the room, that I never have and never will. I know their faces, their names, their stories. I feel part of a �scene.� I know who every local musician is, what their day jobs are, and the incestual, instrumental, inter-band musical chair games. I see them on the street and I nod and smile. We acknowledge each other. We KNOW. We all know. So I stayed at the show. Even though I felt awkward. Even though the doors were kept open and my toes had turned into icicles. Even though my back was aching from chasing brats and standing too long. I stayed because I needed the people to memorize my face, to begin to recognize me in a crowd, to acknowledge me, to become part of a scene. And maybe eventually I will meet one of them. I have discovered a good cure for the blues. It�s a song, by Loudon Wainwright III, called �Pretty Good Day.� It goes a little something like this: �I slept through the night, I got through to the dawn. I flipped the switch and the light went on. I got out of bed and put some clothes on; it was a pretty good day so far. I turned on the tap, there was cold there was hot, I put on my coat to go to the shop. I stepped outside, I didn�t get shot; it was a pretty good day so far. I didn�t hear any sirens or explosions, no mortars coming in from those heavy guns, no UN tanks, I didn�t see one; it was a pretty good day so far. No snipers in windows taking a peek, no people panicked running scared through the street. I didn�t see anybody without arms, legs or feet; it was a pretty good day. There was plasma, bandages and electricity. Food, wood and water, the air was smoke free. No camera crews from ITV. It was all such a strange sight to behold. Nobody was fightened, wounded, hungry or cold. And the children seemed normal, they didn�t look old; pretty good day so far. I walked through a park, you would not believe it. There, in the park, there were a few trees left. And on a few branches there were a few leaves. I slept through the night I got through to the dawn. I flipped the switch, the light went on. I wrote down my dream, I made it to song; it�s a pretty good day so far.� Yes, perspective. Does me wonders. And oh.. Kingbury Manx is lovely too. Who knew? Mr. Howie did. Thanks, David. Any other suggestions, send �em this way. Please. Thank you. Thassall, I promise. Be good! MWAH! ~dahling http://www.geocities.com/dahling007 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 17:21:43 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 17:21:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stronger than alcohol, more great than song, deep in whose reeds great elephants Message-ID: Today I tried to subtly mold two impressionable youths into Belle and Sebastian fans. It�s been two weeks since I started being an �English-speaking play mate� to two 8-year-old twins. Every time I got home, exhausted, and went into #sinister to bitch about the brats, someone would inevitably ask, �So have you made them listen to Belle and Sebastian yet?� �Ha!� I always remark. AS IF I bring a B&S CD with me and slide it into the family stereo. AS IF they would appreciate. AS IF. Well, today I happened to have my laptop with me and as I taught them how to play Snood I happened to put B&S on repeat on my media player jukebox. And I left it on the entire time. Ahhh. Sweet sounds. So when one throws a tanty and the other squeals with glee and throws balls off the ceiling, I have Stu telling me it�ll all be okay. Or making some sly reference I know they will never understand. Did it calm them down any? No, not really. But by the end, the girl was recognizing songs and humming a bit. And when the music stopped, the boy asked for more. Oh yes. I shall repeat this experiment. Today I also got yelled at by the mom. AGAIN. Last time she yelled at me it was because I had allowed the twins to run around inside the house; when she came in, things were in disarray. My lesson: the kids will inevitably run around the house, but clean up after them, dumbass. Or lure them outside. Outside = GOOD. Anyway. Yesterday, I got yelled at for letting them hide in closets during hide-and-seek. Um. Where else are they going to hide??? Hmm. Today.. what was it? Oh! I didn�t eat enough. Or something. Something I forgot: yesterday, the mom stayed home and I desperately tried to think of something to keep the kids occupied and quiet in their room. I thought, wouldn�t it be nice if they wrote little letters to my sister? Yes! They will write. They will think they have a penpal. It will be good. The girl wrote a nice message, something to the effect of: �I love Stacey and I love you too.� The boy scribbled away in earnest. Then I chased the girl out of the room into another room to make cutout snowflakes and an hour later the mother cries out for the boy (Vangelis) and marches in with the letter he had been writing my sister. �Who is Sandy?� she demanded. �What is this?� she said, waving the letter around. �Er. My sister? They wrote to my sister?� I stammered. Perhaps this sounds odd? Hmmm. I hadn�t even read it. She did. �You read Greek?� she asks me. I lie and say no. So she reads it out loud to me, translating: �Dear Sandy. I love you. You make my body hot. I want to have sex with you. Will you have sex with me? Love, Vangelis.� Oh lordy. This is an EIGHT-YEAR-OLD. Needless to say, Vangelis was scolded. And my role? Um.. uncertain. Every day as I leave that house I wonder if I am going to be invited back. She fired the last girl because she �couldn�t control the kids.� And I feel that although the kids love me in some inexplicable way shocking to all involved, she keeps giving me little tests and I keep failing them. Yesterday, for instance, me and Francesca get yelled at because we left a mess in Vangelis� room. She tells us to go clean it up. Francesca refuses to go until she finishes a drawing. The mom insists. I stand there, willing Francesca to go with my eyes and thoughts. But she does not budge. So the mother looks at me and says, �you tell her!� I do, and of course she ignores me as well. Does this mean I have no control over them? Today I took a stand. I thought it would be fun to bring along my digital camera and laptop so the kids could take photos of each other and alter them on the computer and all that. It would be educational! Yes! And it would keep them quiet. Yes! Well, Vangelis really took a fancy to this camera and refused to give it back. It eventually ran out of �film� but he refused to believe he could take no more pictures. Eventually, there was a showdown in the garden. I won! I got the camera back. Then he tried to climb a wall to spy on the neighbors. I told him to come down. He did not listen (they do this innovative trick where they pretend they don�t understand English at just such moments). So I made a face at Francesca and we ran away and hid in some bushes so that he would jump off the wall and come find us. It took awhile, but it worked. He started crying though, upset that we had abandoned him, and marched inside to call him mom and tell on us. I let him, figuring this would work to my advantage. He would cry, �Mommy, Francesca and Stacey played hide-and-seek when I didn�t want to and I didn�t like it. And, well, I wanted to climb a wall and spy on the neighbors and play with her camera but she took it away and wouldn�t let me and now she turned off the tv when I wouldn�t talk to her.� And the mom would think: good, the girl�s finally disciplining the brats. He whined, then Fracesca grabbed the phone and explained (she�s got my back! Yay!) and the mom told her to run off and play with me and let Vangelis watch TV if that�s what he wanted to do. FINE WITH ME. Yar. Oh, I get mixed signals. Like, she�ll yell at me, then she comes over and says she knows some other families who might like my services, am I open to referrals? Ha! Hell yeah. And she whispers, �Their kids are better behaved than mine,� at which point I grin. She says she�d like to help me, that I�m a �good girl.� That she moves in the right circles. Or something. Hmm. Go figure. So next weekend, I meet their friend Fanny, who I already met and who was wonderful and sweet and speaks much better English. And then I will become Fanny�s �play mate� as well. This is very exciting, because there is good money in this play mate business. Spending just 8 hours a week with the brats pays my rent. A few more hours a week with a sweet-natured girl should cover food and bills. And then there�s any other kids I might pick up through her �circle,� and my actual career - writing - which occasionally brings in large sums of cash. That should cover fun things - like chocolate and cheese. Yes. I�m set. Soon I�ll be able to buy a walkman, so I�ll have something to keep me occupied during the 4 hours a day I spend traveling to these rich suburbs. Mmmm hmm. I feel a bit ill. I think it was the greasy potatoes I attempted to make for lunch. The mom left out some chicken fillets and a vat of oil, ready to receive some raw potatoes. Now, I usually shallow fry my potatoes in a big skillet, with very little oil, and they become brown and crisp and not at all disgusting and oily. But these potatoes, sizzling away in the vat of oil, became mushy and gross. As a last-ditch effort to save them, I drained them and threw them in the chicken skillet, but they did not brown. No! And the kids looked at them in disgust and refused to eat them. So I was left with a big plate of mushy potatoes. And carrots. While they ate the chicken. And carrots. An hour later, I felt like I was going to vomit. Enough about the brats already. Is this all I�m ever going to talk about now? Has my life dissolved into mindless chatter about what horrific or tantalizing things Francesca and Vangelis did today? Dear me. There was one other thing that happened this weekend. It was last night, after fleeing the brats and waiting 40 minutes for the bus, in the freezing night, with the other hired help in the neighborhood. Get this: I went - by myself - to a SHOW! Yes!!! It was only the second show I�ve ever been to in Athens, which is quite telling of the music scene here. There was a time when I would be going to an average of 10 shows a month. Now - two shows in 7 months. Anyway, it was a random band, Tilsbury Cloves or something, in a teeny CD store - the only cool CD store in the city, actually. It was a 7� release gig. It was awkward. Did I mention the store is teeny? Very. And there were all sorts of hip and semi-hip kids there, a rare site for me actually, and they all seemed to know each other. Which makes sense, considering how tiny the scene must be here, with so few shows and so few fans of such bands. I felt awkward going alone as it was, but when entire groups of people stared and pointed at me, it made it that much worse. The band was actually quite okay. They had this semi-electronic/synthesizer thing going on, and the singer at times sounded very Field Mice. There were a few sad attempts to rock out electronically, but overall, not too bad. AND there were visuals. Slides projected, backwards, against a far wall. Going to shows is such a love-hate thing. There was a time when I was so sick of going, and would spend hours debating whether to get off the couch and walk 100 feet to see a friend of a friend play drums or sing or.. whatever. Many times, if the show involved any sort of drive, it was ruled out almost immediately. What�s the point of going to a small little club, pay a few dollars to stand uncomfortably in the back of the room and scan the same small crowd of faces I had memorized years ago? And the smoke and the bad beer and running into the crazy guy I always seemed to run into. Or getting annoyed at the little twerps who think they have discovered indie. All to hear a few songs I sort of liked, played live. But now I miss it. So much. I miss the cozy feeling of being in a small area with a group of people with whom I have this unspoken bond. It doesn�t matter that I don�t speak to half the people in the room, that I never have and never will. I know their faces, their names, their stories. I feel part of a �scene.� I know who every local musician is, what their day jobs are, and the incestual, instrumental, inter-band musical chair games. I see them on the street and I nod and smile. We acknowledge each other. We KNOW. We all know. So I stayed at the show. Even though I felt awkward. Even though the doors were kept open and my toes had turned into icicles. Even though my back was aching from chasing brats and standing too long. I stayed because I needed the people to memorize my face, to begin to recognize me in a crowd, to acknowledge me, to become part of a scene. And maybe eventually I will meet one of them. I have discovered a good cure for the blues. It�s a song, by Loudon Wainwright III, called �Pretty Good Day.� It goes a little something like this: �I slept through the night, I got through to the dawn. I flipped the switch and the light went on. I got out of bed and put some clothes on; it was a pretty good day so far. I turned on the tap, there was cold there was hot, I put on my coat to go to the shop. I stepped outside, I didn�t get shot; it was a pretty good day so far. I didn�t hear any sirens or explosions, no mortars coming in from those heavy guns, no UN tanks, I didn�t see one; it was a pretty good day so far. No snipers in windows taking a peek, no people panicked running scared through the street. I didn�t see anybody without arms, legs or feet; it was a pretty good day. There was plasma, bandages and electricity. Food, wood and water, the air was smoke free. No camera crews from ITV. It was all such a strange sight to behold. Nobody was fightened, wounded, hungry or cold. And the children seemed normal, they didn�t look old; pretty good day so far. I walked through a park, you would not believe it. There, in the park, there were a few trees left. And on a few branches there were a few leaves. I slept through the night I got through to the dawn. I flipped the switch, the light went on. I wrote down my dream, I made it to song; it�s a pretty good day so far.� Yes, perspective. Does me wonders. And oh.. Kingbury Manx is lovely too. Who knew? Mr. Howie did. Thanks, David. Any other suggestions, send �em this way. Please. Thank you. Thassall, I promise. Be good! MWAH! ~dahling http://www.geocities.com/dahling007 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 17:24:23 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 17:24:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: like a little slug i won't be bugged by trivia* Message-ID: wow - i'm impressed. bobby looking like a vintage rod stewart, the girls all in flares [i do like a girl in flares], mick looking funny with a bass and no trumpet, beans all embarassed at being on the telly, richard in a 'perthshire advertiser' t-shirt, stevie... just being stevie and struan holding his mic lead like a proper crooner, i was loving it thricefold. but who the hell is/was boz scaggs??? and the lighthouse family may be crap but they were named after st. mary's lighthouse in whitley bay which just up the coast from me, not that you needed to know that. and then last night i dreamed of B&S a friend and i were robbing a toy shop, we had hi-tech radio transmitter/recievers so we could talk to each other but we couldn't figure out how to switch them on so we chucked them away. belle and seb were playing a secret midnight gig in the toy shop and all the harry potter toys looked like Beans, they even came with a little keyboard. then when i got home i was a mafia hitman and i was hunting down my parents but i kept missing them and my dad was constantly telling me how to do it better. i shouldn't have told you all that last bit, someone's going to psychoanalyse me and inform the authorities that i'm a danger to myself and others and the men in white coats will come for me... ...again. but wouldn't B&S dolls be a good chrimbo gift? you would press a button on their backs and they'd come out with a snippet of a favourite tune. yeah! oh! i got the new single, it came this morning. i like all the songs, not the best they've ever come out with but i like them all the same. but i keep expecting them to come out with 'what did you do there? we got high' on ILMC, its very itchycoo park, non?, but with a jazz band. Struan said wank on national TV, the man has style ok, toodle-oo then take care Pez * Trivia - from the latin 'tri via', literally 'three roads'. a signpost was placed wherever three toads came together, on which was placed local gossip and information. pez's fact of the day is brought to you in conjunction with 'his headful of useless knowlege'. your home may be at risk if you do not keep up payments on any mortgage or other loan secured upon it. www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Sun Dec 2 18:03:10 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:03:10 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Saturday, afternoon, raining... Message-ID: <3C0A50BE.3939.6DBD1F@localhost> Hi, Sinister... It's raining... a little, but raining. I can't help sharing wih you the happiness of knowing that tomorrow I'm gonna get my own private copy of "I'm Waking Up To Us", which took just a week to arrive in Brazil. while I write these lines, it's waiting for me at my brother's house. I'll pick it tomorrow. From all you people have already said about the tracks, I couldn't tell if I am gonna like it or not - although I must admit that, when we come to a certain point of identification with an artist or band, there's no more reason to say things as like or dislike, because we're gonna buy everything anyway. In the case of B&S, and particularly in the case of Stuart's works, I feel like there's a direct connection between what he says and what I experiment... so, if something B&S puts out suck, I'll probably have to conclude that something in my life is discretly sucking too... But it's all crazy talk! Let's just wait until the "audience" tomorrow. Meanwhile, "Slow Graffiti" is here with me. I don't remember who mentioned it, but I managed listening to some tracks from this artist or band called TIPSY, and it's weirdly nice! Tha usage of brazilian rhythms and chords caught my attention. Whoever mentioned it in the list, please!, send more information about it! I'm dying to understand a little better what's this thing happening in my ears. I finished reading this claustrophobic book called "A Sombra das Vossas Asas" ( The Shadow beneath your Wings), by a brazialian author called Fernanda Young, and I feel a strange taste in my mouth. Each and every carachter on the novel is depressing and instrospective. The "action" is almost everytime interior, so finishing the book is like finding a way out of a dark labirynth. I have to read something really, really! fun and soft now, to compensate. I must confess I felt the temptation to pick a "Harry Potter" kind of stuff, but I concentrated and thought there should be better pre-xmas lectures. Any suggestions?!?! As I wrote this brief message, the summer rain stopped falling and the sun came out. Daniela, as you ever says, I envy these people would like to have at least a snow day round here. But we can't count on it. At least not while the earth axis remain so unfavorable. that's it.... Beto +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eggstatic at xxx.uk Sat Dec 1 22:12:55 2001 From: eggstatic at xxx.uk (Paul Laird) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 22:12:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ease your virus in the sea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here's a link for those you infected with the badtrans worm virus (Stuart David as well apparently) it explains what it is and how to remove it: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b at mm.ht ml I've had the arduous task of removing it manually from a friend's old pooter - the only way to block it is a virus software update or... buy a Mac :o). Now on to list business!! What with the Festive season rapidly approaching I've decided to do a little giveaway. I have a copy of "It's A Cool, Cool Christmas" on Jeepster CD which came out last xmas and features festive tracks by various "indie" luminaries (Dandy Warhols, Eels, Flaming Lips, Low etc.) and includes Belle & Sebastian track "O Come, O Come Emmanuel". It is free to a UK listee* (for the cost of postage) who replies to me (not the list!!). If there are a few of you I'll do a draw. The Eggman (on a Mac) * sorry non-UK listees - i've tried this before and the postage is too much hassle on 30/11/01 12:00 pm, Kenneth P Y Chu at pykachu100 at hotmail.com wrote: > Please read: This is a public health message for sinister members. > > I think a few of you (especially those who have posted recently) would have > been receiving mysterious e-mail messages from various members of the list. > Titled Re: Sinister: whatever your message was. With some kind of > attachments like Card.doc.pif or great music.mp3.pif. They are mostly > characteristically 40k in size. And the tell tale sign is the ".PIF" > extension in the file name, "great music.mp3.pif" may *look* like an mp3 > file, but it isn't because the extension is actaully .pif which is a > runnable program (and thus, probably a virus, why else would it be > disguising itself as an mp3). > > I think this virus transmits itself by replying to every message you receive > with a virus, and therefore something like this list would be very > vulnerable as everytime you post someone would send you a virus (it's ok as > long as you don't open the attachment) and so please, be careful. > > If you think you have a virus (e.g. if you've opened something like that > recently - for example a supposed mp3 file that did nothing). Write me and > I'll find out how to get rid of the virus for you. Or if you're a pretty > girl looking for love, write me too. :-) > > Finally if you're an expert on virus removal please shed some lights as to > how to get rid of these e-mail viruses. > > No puns today, with the seriousness of this virus talk I felt a pun would be > ill-humoured. ahem. May all your computers be disease-free. > > Love and Red Bulls > Ken > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Sat Dec 1 23:03:44 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:03:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: well...a diary entry a day late is better than none at all. Message-ID: <27173434.1007247824735.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. i am proud to report that on november 30, 2001, one sinister miss mandee may and one sinister miss lindsey lou met. worlds collided, lives were changed. and yes, boys were pulled. we posted in the midst of our frenzy, and had foolishly attached a wee photo of us in a lincoln coffee shop. oops. so, you all didn't get our fantabulous message or photo. but. never fear. i will, at least, post a copy of our post. and some kind of photographs of the event will come to you in some way. of us two, smiling and giggling at the boy who took our picture. and, it is hoped, we can get you the much lauded coffee-shop web cam photo. because we look so damn cute in it. oh, yes, one more thing to add to this revamped post, especially from misslou: mandee is adorable, kids. :) and, she gave me a cigarette. i thought smoking was attractive before. but. now that i might do it from time to time (against the bidding of all my friends), i think it got a whole hell of a lot sexier. ok. here we go again. note: i have edited some parts of the following post so that it makes, ahem, sense. > hey kids. > > misslou and missmandeemay here. > > specifically. in the back. like two birds on a wire, huddled in front of > #sinister. giggling. and drinking. coffee. not booze. :( > > he he. > > mandee is crying for that emoticon, mind. > > but. we are :) to be together! > > so. be jealous that you could not be with us. your lindsey is on the > leftmost side in the back, and dear mandee the right. (EDITOR'S NOTE: this refers to the web cam photo of mandee and lindsey, wherein the two are pictured sitting at a bank of computer's in lincoln nebraska's own coffee house.) > > let's see. this COULD have been a midwest picnic bash blast, but. no one > responded to our offers. so. we did it anyway. :P > > what we have done so far: > > listened to mandee's sister leslee read an amazing little story at a way > artsy-type club here in lincoln. then. went to dinner at lindsey's most > favoritist restaurant in lincoln. then. went to lindsey's abode (tonight: > roach-free.) then. went to a small performance of lindsey's, ahem, > BOYFRIEND. he he (don't get jealous, now, about that.) then. coffee and > computers and waving at web cams. > > many more jealous-making activities to come. > > and lindsey might add that we both look FABULOUS tonight. we have really had > to fend them off, if you know what i mean, especially this dude working > here. we have pulled SO MANY, that our bags are bursting with digits. all > the boys, though, are of course not worthy. > > props to topher for making the photo part of this email possible. :) (EDITOR'S NOTE: the photo part is actually, as of yet, not possible. but. props to topher anyway.) > > no props to our missing #sinister friends. > > he he > > we have but one more mission to complete and truly rock the town of lincoln. > it is bound to become a sinister picnic tradition that will be carried on > throughout the world forever!! > > so. you'll have to wait to hear about that. > > so ends this part of the lou-may sinister event. > > your misslou and mandee may > and so. the rest of the story is to come. love to the peeps. your misslou (and mandee, i should think, in good spirit) ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pharkle at xxx.de Sat Dec 1 23:50:33 2001 From: pharkle at xxx.de (pharkle at xxx.de) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:50:33 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Daniel Johnston and Yuji Oniki References: <200112012207.WAA27328@missprint.org> Message-ID: <12322.1007250633@www20.gmx.net> hey y'all, this is kind of unrelated, but Daniel Johnston will be performing at 12:00 noon EST on our college radio station tomorrow, and there will be an interview with japanese pop-guru Yuji Oniki at 1:00pm and i thought i'd let you know in case you'd like to tune in. you can listen over the web at www.wbar.org thanks for the support, -alex -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Sat Dec 1 23:51:16 2001 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 0:51:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ensorcelled by sinister on a clear, cold December first night Message-ID: <20011201235116.LECB15926.fep02-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Ocht.I just feel like it. Stumbling over this threshold into a vacancy I don't suppose I should be filling. But say I get out of the habit? I could end up in a gorilla outfit. Actually, I am hesitating and feel a bit furry around the ankles. Mmm... carry on: it's only letters on a screen. Squeezed out, like juice from a glace cherry: the twitches of intimacies concealed; the gagging of a loudmouth! Or someone with little to say, even if he did buy some CD's the other day, ate sausages and travelled by the public omnibus more than once. paraphrasing, sort of I knew it. I'd get material by reading other posts. I. 'm .scared. of. plagiaBCDEFHIJKLMNOPQRism, and 1) I can't write like girls do 2) I have an oxidationsmittel-set for instant rust, if not trust 3) Jeremy must be English 4) non-sequiturs are the new 1) I can't write like girls do it got me started what the cuckoo clock didn't tell I have a tip that I'm afraid only works in Scotland if you have a radio alarm clock and you get up at 5am weekdays. If you tune the alarm to go off at this hour, on the hour, there's a swirly but rousing jingle on that frequency at that moment which dovetails with charming neatness between somnabulance and bouncing out of bed into the freezing pre-dawn air in a sickeningly determined - if not yet aware of its own cheerfullness- way. I used to have a cuckoo clock, which went off all night. I liked it, but I was young then and got to lie in. It is in a cupboard now, beside a collection of some hundreds of hotel brochures I collected. I sent these wee white cards edged in gold from one of those special marker pens requesting a brochure from the... the life of a delusional small-town snob ... various Grand Hotels of the world, most of whom replied, with a greater or lesser degree of enthusiasm. The Atlanta Hyatt sent me a T-shirt and a whole stack of brochures, the Hotel Richmond in Geneva has one of the nicer brochures, and the Connaught in London has no brochure at all, but sent leaflets outlining the facilities of Claridges and the Berkley instead. Not our Princess, but one of the Windsors, uses their open-air rooftop pool. This information is not in their leaflet but the hotel is in London, after all, where you can't move for the grand and the ghastly. And good, rich people who swim a bit. On a similar ticket, Rolls Royce cars sent me a book. Why am I spouting all this garbage? CUCKOO! CUCKOO! Piss off ye false bird propelled on cheap Swiss clockwork! [a closet door slams with turbulence arising of a simmering satisfaction on the one side and ruffled plastic feathers on the other] have I done my bit in the length/duration department? Questions, questions, always questions, innit? No. mmm I think I have the answer. And so to bed. Gordon with every ground smooth weld shoring up a glassy elevator; when intricacies of corinthian on Pall Mall are only stone; whether oblivious to one hardness or all too aware of another; the shadows and the light combine to chiaroscuro and reflections, not grey _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 10:58:57 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 07:58:57 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Judy never felt so good except when she was sleeping Message-ID: <20011202105857.18527.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com> Hey. I had never had a dream coming true so fast. Yesterday I got home at 7:30'PM and I had nothing to do in the evening. I hate these Saturday nights. My boyfriend had traveled and I had to stay here in order to do a stupid test on Sunday (the test you gotta do in order to enter college. I'm trying to study another course, so I have to do this again). And when I was lying in my bed, I thought to myself "I wish I only woke up tomorrow". And I only realized that at 2 AM, when unfortunately I felt like going to the bathroom and woke up for 10 minutes. Then I fell asleep again. For an insomniac girl, this is almost like watching a B and S concert (let's say ... a "little" less exciting). Now it's 8 AM and I am having some pizza. My junkie days are coming back while my bf says I'm getting "fluffy". Isn't he the "cutest" thing????????? Beto, I need an information: where did you buy the new EP? I wanna find it today here in São Paulo, but i can only afford the brazilian one. I hope you have a great Sunday (I know we are all able to do that). Tonight I'm gonna meet my iugoslavian friends and have some european food and drink a lot of wine and meet my ex boyfriend and pretend I don't love him anymore and get home drunk as hell lying to myself pretending I'm happy. Love and wine, Daniela (wish me luck this afternoon, please!) _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 12:11:43 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 12:11:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dogs, wheels and disappearing buses Message-ID: Hello All, Just to let people know, I went to Ticketmaster yesterday (social butterfly, me), and was informed that the bus to Belfast has been cancelled. So it looks like the train for me after all, and a night in Belfast. Then again, if we had enough interest, we could organise a minibus ourselves; anybody got experience of that sort of thing, just to have a rough idea of how much it would cost? It may be the only chance for some people who are a bit strapped for cash, especially with it being Xmas and all. Let's get our heads together here, eh? Bye for now, Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From o-lowery at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 14:46:06 2001 From: o-lowery at xxx.com (owen lowery) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:46:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'll take the subway to your suburb sometime Message-ID: <87A1B84023252974A98BFF6502108F8E@o-lowery.care2.com> hewwo just a few points george harrison is dead which is a shame but im getting sick of hearing my sweet lord why cant they play a good song by him instead would be a better tribute to have while my guitar gently weeps or here comes the sun or sometimes the new single is rather nice which makes me smile and the cover is lovely dogs are a "good thing" and the heroes of our story were on later with Jools and lots has been said 'bout this so I wont add much except to say that sarah was looking quite cute and I think im developing a crush oh well in further groundbreaking news my phone keeps breaking not good cos its got an mp3 player on it which I need to maintain sanity while on buses its even got a red bull dozers track stored on it though to be honest im not sure that one helps my sanity anyway im off to fade back into list-obscurity hugs and sarah martin dreams   owen ********************************************** so much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens (William Carlos Williams) http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sun Dec 2 19:11:23 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:11:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belfast! Belfast! Message-ID: Does anyone remember the song 'Belfast' by Boney M? It was a jaunty piece of disco nonsense about the socio-political situation in the northern capital during the 1970s. As far as I remember, most members of Boney M were immigrants to Germany from central Africa who spoke no English, so they were completely unaware of the seriousness of the lyrics they sang. In only a few weeks, I'll be going up to Belfast with my best girl, that's up from sunny Dublin. Obviously we're going up there to see popular Scottish group Belle & Sebastian, which will be nice. I think there ought to be a Belfast meetup before the gig, is anyone game? I'm not really sure of a location, and I reckon if there are any Belfast-based listers they might be able to help here. One thought that flitted through my mind was meeting in the Botanic Gardens during the day, as they are kind of central while also being kind of near the University area where the band are playing. But maybe it would be too parky for an out-door meetup and instead we should go to some cosy bar with a roaring log fire to drink hot ports and chit chat about stuff. Any suggestions? Meanwhile, in news about me, I've been to the United States of America. There are lots of squirrels there. I saw one hiding some walnuts in the base of a tree, and considered stealing them on him but decided against it. I also discovered that the Moldy Peaches are B*R*I*L*L*I*A*N*T and can see why everyone loves them. They're kind of like an American Vaselines or something, which is obviously a good thing. I also bought a fab compilation CD called "Ultra Chicks Vol.6". It's not the soundtrack to a Russ Meyer film, but rather a collection of very likeable French pop tunes sung by women and girls from the past. If you had volumes 1 - 5 as well and a CD multi-changer set to shuffle-play you would have a Bowlie disco of your own in your living room, which would be groovey. Mark Sweeney, meanwhile, mentioned that the bus to Belfast has been cancelled, which is a bit poor really. I've already got other commitments up north so I won't be able to join in with any bus hiring pranks. And I suppose I should disjointedly mention the new B&S single. I'm not really that taken with it - with the title track anyway. I still haven't bonded with it, yeah. I find the funny vocal inflections Stu-Boy adopts on it a bit strange. Obviously though, I love 'I Love My Car' as it brings back happy Uptown Shufflers related memories. And 'Marx & Engels' is endearing in a b-sidey kind of way. But overall, nyeh, try harder next time. OK, off to write zines and stuff. bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 21:41:00 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:41:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: twelve thoughts.. Message-ID: <20011202214100.31486.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> 1. Tigermilker Mark is a cheeky wee so-and-so. Did I get him back for making all kinds of suggestions? No, I just charged him for services rendered. Darling, you owe me �1.25 for last night. 2. Paul Laird- first of all, that Jeepster record you're giving away? um, got it thanks. I dunno if you'll find anyone on here who hasn't got it. And the best track has to be the Low one. second of all? you better not be that bloke I went to school with, otherwise I shall be watching what I say from now on, and squirming uncomfortably. WHO ARE YOU????? 3. After god-knows how many hours hard work and realignment of stuff and things, I've finally got my wee fanzine printed off. So, if anyones interested, issue three features an interview with Mark Jones of Jeepster giving advice how to get signed (and mentioning things about the acts he's already got signed); Aether Flux interview; interview with The Clean; interview with John Uchurch (dude who designed Shellac and Tortoise covers); tons of reviews, demo section, quick fire interviews with bands nobody's heard of and a whole bunch of other stuff. �1.20, green cover. Previous issues are available too, cos I've got some more published. 4. Viruses? urgh. I've had three I've deleted this week alone. Its a nightmare. They go for your address book you know. Be warned. The ones I've had, have been with "re. " in the subject line, with nothing more than re. Second thing, there has been no body to the message, just an attatchment with an odd ending. If someone has sent you something genuine, and you know who they are. you can always e mail them and ask before you open it. 5. Sorry for the last multi post. Deja vu, anyone? what can I say... it kept telling me the connection had timed out. 6. dress down day, and I got told my belt was unsuitable for work. And yes, it really was a belt, not an extra short skirt or something. How sucky is that? 7. I keep having these wierd moments. I keep seeing this staircase bar in my mind, in my imagination, it just strikes up, like its somewhere I've been or somewhere I've seen, and I can't make it out. It just leaves this peculiar feeling inside me and I don't know any more. Its an odd thing, I just get flashes of this place, and htis feeling to accompany it. Its really getting quite strange. Its not something I think about, it just jumps up mid thought and goes. 8. My story is coming along really well. I've come up with stuff for it. y imagination seems to hav found a new lease of life. 9. Ken Chu, its not Christmas I find depressing, its the feelings that accompany it of regret and wonder and thoughts about all the little things I should have said and done, I just never took the time.... Hmm. 10. Did anyone think that Jools Holland looked odd when he walked away from Belle And Sebastian? He had this fixed smile on when they finished one song, then walked off, towards his piano I think, and looked at the floor with this "good grief, who asked THEM on? I can't believe I have to fake joyity about some ofthese bands sometimes.". It was that slight slight look, when he looked at the floor, the way his face just dropped the smile as quickly as he could get away from them. I thought it was quite funny. Or am I over-analyising things again? 11. When is he right time to start sending Christmas cards? 12. Yeah, I'm going to the QMU gig as well. It took my brother 1 and a half hours queueing at the QM on Wednesday, only to find out they weren't on sale yet. And then he said he was told it was students only. Of course, I think he just got it wrong. Eventually, i sent him off to Virgin to get one. :) I owe him big time now. I think it was a good idea though, to call him and bark instructions from my desk at work while he was with this girl, who I think he fancies. So I think he did it to impress her with his sensitivity. I must remember to exploit this as much as possible. Okay, thats it. Love, idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 22:17:05 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 22:17:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: on other mews... Message-ID: Yesterday i made pretend candles out of strips of white cardboard and shiny paper for the frames. Why? I didn't really have much choice to be honest, we were making a Harry Potter display at work, to go in the childrens library section. I only managed to get a bit part in this charade which was making the cardboard candles, which are to hang from the big frames suspended from the ceiling. I imagine the effect will be most underwhelming, but thats beside the point. I've told them often enough that we shouldn't be jumping on this Harry Potter bandwagon; i wont pretend it was me who wrote that the books leap into the mainstream is "symptomatic of the infantilisation of a semi-literate culture" and i wont pretend i disagree either. I know i'm taking them too seriously, but the reason i like working in the library is because most of the time it's a step aside from the heady worlds of advertising a profit making, a haven from commercialism. But not anymore it seems, the library where i usually work has recently started getting copies of Q magazine, nintendo magazine, vogue and other staples of the WHSmith diet. Not good at all. Anyway, i was in for the whole day on saturday, so at about quarter past nine i settled down to do some checking (which is just making sure the books are in the right order), on the adult fiction section. I love doing this because i can take my time and have a look at books that interest me and decide what i'll read next and so on, but i had only got as far as the b's when i was churlishly dragged away and instructed to make candles for the Harry Potter display. "Can't we do a Jeanette Winterson display instead?" I should've asked. But i didn't. I don't know what you'd put on one of those anyway, some oranges certainly; but what else? Another thing that annoys me about Birmingham Libraries (and i'm unfortunately ignorant as to whether this is the case in other places) is the way fiction which is deemed 'gay or lesbian' (by whom? is there a panel?) has to be separated from the rest and hoarded together and put on a display shelf under the cringeworthy title 'Loud and Proud'. Surely segregating it in this way is missing the point of such literature? Ironic indeed, and as Ms Winterson herself wrote "...what makes life difficult for homosexuals is not their perversity but other people's." Enough of that anyway, back to Saturday and making candles. I had found a failrly satisfying method of card candle production, and the end result was rather nice, considering the frankly shoddy materials i had to work with. But apparently there was a much faster way of making them, and the girl i work with (who occasionally sports a Harry Potter tshirt of all things) showed me something that could quite easily have been cobbled together by a 5 year old. "oh" i said, because at least my candles looked vaguely like candles and had some semblance of artistic credibility. I likened my plight to that of so many, where speed of production, mass production takes precedence over creative endeavour. I felt like the caring small business owner being elbowed out by the multinational. I'm worried too because i don't think i saw one book i knew to be of literary merit being checked out or in all day. A few explanations present themselves, perhaps i only served the mills & boon/western/detective novel reading dullards (a generalisation if ever i saw one, but one i wont lose any sleep over having made) and the people who were borrowing the good stuff were served by the other staff, or the people of yardley are reading lost classics that i haven't heard of yet. These both seem unlikely. There are romantic notions attatched to working at a library are there not? And perhaps if i worked at central library in the middle of birmingham i would regularly be approached by intellegent articulate people about interesting subjects. But local libraries are not the centres of culture and learning they might appear to be. When i was there during the summer a girl asked me if we had any books on lino printing, "i don't think so, there might be something in one of the brittanicas tough." there wasn't. But, since i know how to do lino printing i offered to tell her, "haven't you got any books on it?" she said "no" i said "but i can tell you how to do it, i'll draw a picture if you like" "it's ok" she said and left. I tend to get that a lot. This is starting to sound whiny now, but i do really like working there, being surrounded by books and so forth. And the pay is quite good. It's just that sometimes, and this happens to all the other staff too, you try to help someone find information and they throw what you've found back in your face because it doesn't exactly match what they asked for, even though it might be just as good. But as i said, no more whining. Or maybe just a little bit more. On Friday there was an awards night at my school. They call it speech night, and it happens every year. What was unusual was that i was there. I didn't want to go, in fact i only went to appease my parents. And it was truly terrible, but you will require some background to understand quite why: The school i go to is unusual in that it is a grammar school - you have to pass a test to get in. There aren't many of these schools left in England and they're quite unpopular in certain educational circles anyway (the opinion that they're elitist and generally a bad thing is one i've been agreeing with for quite a while now... but there wasn't any chance of me leaving at all). It's also an all male school. These are facts but the rest of what i'll say is just conjecture. Because friday night will undoubtedly be heralded as a success even though it was a dramatic failure. My prize was for french, the Scott memorial prize in fact. I didn't ask who Scott was, in fact i tried to turn down the prize, because i didn't want it at all - not just because the exam result which got me the prize wasn't reward enough in itself, but because the whole idea of having to collude in that back-slapping ritual was not an attractive one. But i wasn't allowed to refuse the prize... such is the price of success. Or perhaps it isn't even success, i know i hardly felt elation when i got my exam results (AS levels by the way), in fact i just felt empty. Exams don't really mean much to me, even when i do well in them, they are too shallow an artifice for me to pin my hopes upon. Back to friday though. The school i go to is part of whats rather dauntingly known as 'the kind edwards foundation' made up of some of the grammar schools in birmingham. Every school in the foundation has one of these evenings at around this time of year, and theres a 'healthy rivalry' between all the schools in it. The headmasters of these other foundation schools were all there on friday. What this boils down to then, is simple competition - which school has the best award ceremony, and the winner is... Well nobody actually. The whole principle of the evening works on the basis that everyone looks as smart and uniform as possible, everyone smiles when they get their award from the smug looking bailiff. The bad jokes in the speeches get laughs - laughs tinged with a nervous edge i might add. It hurt me to have to participate in this awful show, i felt like crying - we had to sing he national anthem, and the terrible school song, and people did, with put-on vigour and passion. And thats what was so sad about the whole charade, none of the feelings expressed in the speeches were entirely true, they were fabrications - the truth stretched to fit in with a hundred year old ideal that no one could hope to meet. The school captain, vice captain and the headmaster all spoke of what the school had achieved, as if this could be pinned down and quantified, as if a school can be summed up in ten minutes. They thought it could, and they tried to. That they failed is irrelevant, it will be heralded as a success... history might be written by the victors, but what defines victory? The people who proclaimed victory the loudest in some cases. And on Friday there was no case against the school, no moment of protest at the ridiculousness of this stroking of the schools ego, this propagation of all the stereotypes about old boys networks and arcane ceremony that surround grammar schools. Unfortunately these stereotypes are true. I'll shut up about that now. Belle and Sebastian were fab on Jools Holland, even if Jools didn't particuarly look like he enjoyed them. The first "Hey! Cut me loose" sounded a bit shoddy, but it was all uphill from there. I'll agree with everyone else in saying that three songs wasn't nearly enough though. I found that link i was on about in my last mail by the way: http://www.framleyexaminer.com/ It comes highly recommended, a good way to use up an hour or so of your time. This mail has been remarkably self contained and whingy. For that i can only apologise, but i hope you got something of vague interest out of it. peace and love - kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 23:13:02 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 23:13:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Toby, Alexander, Linnet Message-ID: <20011202231302.A5411@candle.btinternet.com> A lot happened this week. There was a new single, woo-hoo! And a TV show, woo-hoo! And then I went and reread a favourite book of mine. But more of that later. Last Monday morning, I got up early and went, first-thing, to my nearest record shop; and bought a copy of "I'm Waking Up To Us". I have to say, I like it. After all, before "I Love My Car", the best clarinet solo in a pop song was by Supertramp. I'm sure, too, that many Sinister boys and girls went "Phwoar!" at the sight of Isobel in red leather. Not to mention Stevie and his big friendly Dalmatian. It's getting near Christmas now -- well, it's December at least -- so I wanted to do Christmassy things. I remembered to get out my advent calendar and start opening the doors. I hunted out my copy of the Jeepster christmas album from last year and put it on. I put "Just Like Christmas" by Low on repeat -- as Idleberry said, it's definitely the best song on the album. After the third play, my mad flatmate got herself out of bed (it was 11am) and came storming into the living room. "TURN THIS SHIT OFF!" she shouted. "I'M FED UP OF LISTENING TO IT! CAN'T YOU LISTEN TO SOMEONE WHOSE VOICE HAS BROKEN?" This, of course, made me incredibly confused. I was extremely tempted to say "OK, I'll put a different CD on," and switch to the Low album that has that track on it. But she would probably have smashed the disc in anger. Anyway, she can't talk. She used to be a Hanson fan. So, the single went into the charts at number 39. Oh dear. Never mind, though. I'm sure when the flatmate finds out she will take the opportunity to trumpet how crap my favourite band must be, to only just brush the charts. I wanted to do more Christmassy things. There was a special section in the newspaper the other day, reviewing anything and everything to do with Christmas. What movies to see. What records to buy. And what books to give to people. It had a section on the ten best children's books ever written, and one of them was a book I read and loved myself many many years ago. I remembered it being a beautiful lovely seasonal and christmassy book, so I hunted it down and reread it, and it was just as lovely as I had thought. So I think you all should read it too. It is about a small boy at boarding school, parents in Colonial service, who has to stay for christmas with his great-grandmother in a big, dark, ancient country house. He asks her to tell him stories about the children whose portrait is hung above the roaring fireplace, and she tells him about the family who lived there in the seventeeth century, three children who never grew old, and who still live there. He is desperate to know and see them himself, and disappointed that they hide; but eventually, little-by-little, they show themselves to him too. Back in the 1980s, it was filmed by the BBC and shown on the telly. It was good, but BBC-style man-in-rubber-suit special effects couldn't do justice to some parts of it, like an image of a small girl stood looking out of her window on Christmas night, watching a statue of St. Christopher come alive and carry the Christ Child through a frozen river to pray at Midnight Mass, the ice cracking and crazing around his stone body. i don't know if it's just me, but I always fall for beautiful ghost stories. Not the ones with dark creatures from beyond the grave forcing their innocent victims to blah blah wibble blah, but the ones about ordinary people with ordinary, beautiful lives, who just happen to be dead. I'm not sure why I find them so touching, but I do. That book ws a beautiful book, and thinking about it gives me a pale smile and soft eyes. It is as christmassy as plum pudding, clementines and fruit peel. Go and read it. Go and read "The Children of Green Knowe" by Lucy M. Boston. xx -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Dec 2 23:36:49 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:36:49 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: i know, i know Message-ID: <169.4e8f0e0.293c1512@aol.com> I know I said I wouldn't post *ever* *ever* again, but I'm so tempted. (You lot are so charming that I just can't tear myself away..) I got list crushed again. (my second vote! yay!) I never found out who it was the first time either. And I'd really *love* to know. Come on, 'fess up, 'fess up. (My friends say I give off an aura of 'talk to me and I will set my evil squirrels on you', but I really don't.. I promise not to set them on you lot, anyhow.) So.. belle content: I ordered the new single on vinyl. They shipped it today, they confirm me. lots of love and avocados... cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 00:08:57 2001 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:08:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Out of the closet skeletons Message-ID: <104.d35aa24.293c1c99@aol.com> Happy Sunday Evening Sinister, Hopefully all of your lives are going well. I just came to the close of an interesting weekend. I haven't talked to my dear, dear Elise all weekend, and no matter how silly it may sound to anyone, it is quite distressing indeed. Although I won't let myself get too upset about it since she is out and having fun, visiting sinister folks around the midwest, which is certainly a cause that I support. I managed to keep myself pretty busy this weekend. On friday I attended a production of Cyrano de Bergerac that one of my friends was in...It was pretty good, and I enjoyed myself. Saturday was certainly the high point of enjoyment for the weekend however. I attended my friend's band's practice in northern virginia, and did hanging out a-plenty as well. My friends play in this *very* intense metal-hardcore band, and it is rather funny that I, with my rather delicate tastes attend most of their practices. Unfortunately for them the rocking out was severely limited by Rebecca's guitar amp breaking...I suppose their intesity was too great...Like Icarus they flew to close to the sun and paid the price. In lieu of practicing they all managed to have a fairly large "battle" involving loads of foam toys. It was fairly amusing to watch, yet somewhat disturbing that they could battle like this for hours on end. Faces were hit, large boys were viciously attacked by tiny hardcore girls, and neighborhood cars were hit. Somewhere during the course of the evening, the most interesting development of the evening arose. One of the cats I was associating with that night was a fellow named Chris, who plays in local hardcore superstar band extraordinaire, "Age of Ruin." Well, when they play live they put on quite a show, they have a fire breather, and people dressed up like skeletons, who stand perfectly still, until the time comes to awaken, run into the audience and cause havoc...Well, I have kindly been nominated to be a skeleton next saturday. It will make me feel rather important, truth be told, since afterall, I will be up on stage, and I will be noticed, although I really won't have to do anything other than look vaguely like a skeleton. Everyone, at least as far as local hardcore fans are concerned, is always talking about how great the skeletons are, now I can dazzle them with the fact that mild mannered me, Sean, Boyfriend of Elise, Fan of such groups and Belle and Sebastian and Pulp, Quiet anthropology student, and generally delicate fellow, is in fact a skeleton in disguise!...After which I will promptly remove my skin and show my true nature. Well, I should be going soon....Even us skeletons have our needs and responsibilities such as Studying, Getting some sleep, and eating delicious Chinese food. Oooh, I sure do hope that Elise gets home early enough to call tonight...I do miss talking to her so much! Hopefully Kirsten and Jimmy are enjoying exactly how wonderful her company is. Luckily in less than two weeks Elise will be out in lovely Baltimore with me, and we will be having the time of our lives. :) Well, it's time for this skeleton to go back in the closet. Loads of undead love to you all, Especially Jimmy, but *Especially* Elise, Skeleton Sean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 00:40:06 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:40:06 EST Subject: Sinister: Hefner and bananas Message-ID: <165.4eb89f9.293c23e6@aol.com> Hey all- Long time no see. I've spent quite a bit of time with you folks on #sinister, and I have to say, I might frequent it more often than I used to. Maybe I'll become a real part of the scene. And maybe I'll be quoted by the lot of you. Anyways, I know its list abuse really, but I was out shopping with my mother tonight, and we went to Banana Republic (her fav store) and while I was waiting for her to check out, I read the catalogs they had laying around. By chance, I looked at the CD they have and low and behold, Hefner is playing on it. It was their great song, Level green. They're so corporate. Good for them night all much love Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Max421 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 02:13:55 2001 From: Max421 at xxx.com (Max421 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:13:55 EST Subject: Sinister: Here's the Irony Message-ID: <130.59d6309.293c39e3@aol.com> Hello Everyone, This is my first post. I've tried to do this about ten times, but it never seems to come right. Despite being a lurker and religiously drawing solace from reading your wonderful posts, I'm confused as to how to address you all, how to NOT comit list abuse, and how to make myself understood as someone worthy of your time. As some have you have probably figured out by know, I'm max, rachel grapenut's and Hye Min's friend. I've had a horrible week. Ever since mid september, I've been hopelesly in love with this beautiful freshman at school. He's thin, and lanky and has beautiful gray eyes and incredible longer than average blond hair. He also doesn't know that I exist. We've never spoken, but I just KNOW that he must be a wonderful person with great taste in guys and a secret love for Belle and Sebastian. I know I shouldn't make assumptions like this, but I just know that he's gay. There's no way that he isn't...but him not being open about it sort of nullifies the whole thing. In the last two months, its grown from a casual attraction, to a full fledged obsession. I find myself writing about him in my free time, and actually coming face to face with him has become such a painful experience. At the beginning of the week, my eyes started tearing whenever I saw him...as the week progressed I found myself in severe physical pain everytime I saw him. I feel my heart and stomache are being ripped out of my body, and that I am! disappearing. becoming negative space. I hope some of you can empathize for one reason or another, with this mutual pain and exhiliration you receive when there's someone out there you love, and just doesn't love you back. Things picked up on friday afternoon. I got a job at the housing works bookshop and cafe (to fulfill a community service requirement). I've always wanted to work at a bookstore, and I'm glad to be making money for a cause that I find important (treating people for HIV and helping them kick drug addictions). Wonderfully enough, the store is located in soho, and I can frequent expensive clothing stores and my favorite CD shop, rocks in your head, on a regular basis. I bought the sing....and I was so moved by "I'm waking up to us" and "Marx and Engels". I don't love the cover art...but I thought that the single was just as great at Jonathan David, If not better. I spent saturday with my friend saya...so uneventful... Then sunday, Rachel (my partner in life) came back and we trapsed around the village. I bough a Jeff Magnum live Cd. Everyone should listen to Neutral Milk Hotel (aeroplane over the sea) and Olivia Tremor Control (dusk at a cubist castle). I also aquired a beautiful pair of pants, that I'm waiting to wear, because tomorrow I must make a statement by wearing purple pants. We also went to chinatown, where we bought some delicious chinses candy. I think artificial strawberry coating is an abusable substance. Well, on that note, I'm off to go hit myself on the head with the frying pan of reality a few times before school tomorrow. ~Max~ P.S. I think that joe vester is BRILLIANT P.S.S. I butcher puncutation, and I have no remorse :::""!@ P.S. S. S. I want scarf guy too!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 04:03:49 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 14:33:49 +1030 Subject: Sinister: Lewis Carroll sucked at scrabble Message-ID: My sweets: I managed to buy the new single the other day, and I�ve been listening to it as well. When I first heard Jonathan David, I thought it was complete rubbish, and now I absolutely adore it. When I first heard I�m Waking Up To Us, I felt sort of indifferent to it, and now I quite like it in a vague sort of way that doesn�t really seem to matter, somehow. It�s a tidy unit: the B-sides are both worthy, and I like dogs as much as the next chap. Even if the next chap is someone who has a rather particular fondness reserved especially for dogs. It�ll almost certainly be the soundtrack to a few things that happen over the next little while, but it hasn�t impacted on me in quite the same way as some other things I�ve heard this year. Hearing some of the earlier records was like getting fitted with a new pair of spectacles. Some things became clearer, and other things went all fuzzy. I�ve been looking through them for some time now, so I suppose I shouldn�t grizzle that the new record seems more like a matching jaunty hat than a new prescription. Yikes, I�m writing to Sinister about Belle and Sebastian, aren�t I? I feel all dirty. Let�s move on. Love and Christmas. There seems to be a fair bit of both about at the moment, so I�ll just briefly have my say. Because I can. Love is a curious thing, and means different things to different people. There�s been a lot said on the list about it lately, and I agree with all of it unreservedly. For me, love happens in the summer, and I�ve certainly been enjoying it much more since it�s involved people I�m not directly related to. There�s a lot of anticipation, and wondering �what am I going to GET?�, but inevitably you just end up mopping the grease off your face and dozing in front of the telly, wondering whether you�ve seen this Bond film before, or whether it�s just a lot like that other one you saw that other time. I pulled a cracker last year, but on the inside, there was just a bad joke and a general feeling of bloated disappointment. I think I had Christmas once, but it�s hard to be sure. I�d like to have one again at some stage, but I�ll be far more careful who I spend it with. I like the gifts and everything, but when it�s over, there�s just a great big drunken mess left to deal with. Next Christmas is going to be perfect, and it�s going to last forever. I may not have that quite the right way round. After all, it�s a confusing time of year. On Christmas morning this year, I�m going to wake up extra early and catch a taxi to the airport. Then I�m going to spend all day sitting about with bags and my Gameboy and a headache and small collection of the more fashionable phobias, alternately in lounges and on aeroplanes, heading away at varying speeds from the rut in which I�ve spent this past year. What I�m heading towards is far more exciting, so I shouldn�t let the fact that it�s scary and uncertain worry me overly much. I�m actually hoping that the experience will help me to decide what to do with the next little bit of my life; I�m sure that in one way or another things will be clearer then than they are now. Or at least different. Or maybe I�ll just be less tired; who knows? In any case, travel seems to put a different sort of perspective on things. So does meeting beautiful girls that you�re crazy about. I�ve been off the fags for two months now. As a result, I�m not nearly as sexy, but I do smell a bit nicer. Um, I�ve been a bit crap about sending packages lately, and there are FOUR people on this list, would you believe, that are patiently waiting for items that are STILL sitting in neat little piles on my bedroom floor, rather than winging their way across various large bodies of water (and some land-y bits as well, I suppose) towards their intended destinations. This is not by any means indicative of a lack of loveliness on the part of the recipients, let me assure you, just of a general laziness and disorganisation on mine. I�m deeply sorry, and (it should go without saying) a truly awful (though dashingly handsome) swine. Alright, that�ll do for now. Embarrassingly long and almost uncomfortably tight hugs must go to the kind few that responded so delightfully to my last post. You�re good eggs, the whole job lot of you. God bless your cotton socks. Cotton sock blessings also go to Honey for (along with, you know, everything else) the #sinister stats page, which is my new obsession. I�d like to see a punchy half-hour programme, shown weekly on the television, giving a rundown on the big movers in the chart, and spreading wildly inaccurate gossip about the celebrity #sinister types. If you didn�t know me, you�d think I should get out more. Stay stuffed with breadcrumbs, sage and onion, and oven roasted until cooked through, yet still moist and tender. Bulk love, -David. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gasriot at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 06:06:25 2001 From: gasriot at xxx.com (Tyler Rentz) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:06:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: karate Message-ID: Hello I'm not much of a contributer to this here list, but, i have to send some insignificance into cyberspace about the show i saw tonight. The band is karate. The music is....inspired. I love these guys, and it turns out the singer is almost my neighbor. How cool is that? Anyway, had to tell someone before i exploded. thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Mon Dec 3 07:43:06 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:43:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "I'm just a little 2 up/2 down..." (yes it's me again and it's a long post and i'm sorry) Message-ID: <003201c17bce$f3a5e6e0$74684cd5@default> dear sinister, my mood has now balanced after all mad swings of the last days, after my gig-excitement and exam-stress. only the exam-stress has evolved into post-exam stress, with me being catastrophic and thinking i'll fail the CPE (which is very important for me). (cpe-certificate of proficiency in english. half of the people from my class are taking it this december. comprises 5 parts - speaking, listening, writing, reading + use of english. boring intro bit over) the 'speaking' part was on saturday. 2 people and 2 examiners in a room. talk about some pictures, passages; discussion, etc. one is supposed to be fluent and use sophisticated words and structures. and i HATE oral exams. i get mega-stressed and forget everything and probably come across as a stuttering idiot (which i'm not. i usually don't stutter) i did, however, try and un-stress myself, and here's how: 30th november, according to an old tradition, is a fortune-telling day in poland. :) it can be quite fun, provided you're not on your own. so, i went round to Charming Kamil's place, and we amused ourselves by taking part in the most common fortune-telling practice... olala's fortune-telling know-how: 1.take some old candles and melt them in a pot. 2.prepare a bowl full of water. 3.find a key with a hole (it's not that difficult, honest. maybe you're shutting your cupboard with one every day, take a look around :) 4.ha, now's the best bit! ;-) you've got to pour the melted wax through the key hole into the bowl, wait a moment for it to set, and see what shape the now-solid wax makes. :) lalala :) sounds exotic, doesn't it? ;-) apparently, a star or a human are good omens, a heart means you'll find love in the coming year, and a ramshackle house symbolises danger and all things bad. hm, wonder how one can recognise a ramshackle house in a lump of wax ;-) ooh, and the wax can't be too hot, because a) you may set your kitchen on fire (almost like me, when heating oil on the pan a few weeks ago ;) ooh the big flame that burst out! so beautiful! ;-) b) when it's too hot, the wax doesn't really make interesting shapes, it just spreads on the surface of the water. kamil and i initially made that mistake, and all we got were flat nothings. ;) however, we did get some fascinating shapes in the end. for example a swan (according to kamil) or a turkey (according to me), and a small lump on a flat piece of wax that we (ok, i) named: A Marmot On A Desert. not sure what that symbolises. ;-) i also got a heart, but not the heart all valentine's cards are shaped like - just the muscle that pounds when you (ok, *i* ;-) see my name mentioned in lovely Rachee Fruitee-Loopee's post :) so it probably doesn't symbolise love. damn! perhaps it wasn't even shaped like a heart, only like a liver. i never was good at anatomy. kamil got a human-shape twice, though! :) one was a Sculpture Of A Man Who Sits Thinking also known as The Witch Without A Broom, and the other was Zorro With A Crippled Leg, who turned into A Man, Billows Of Cigarette Smoke Surrounding His Head when looked at from a different angle ;-) he now occupies the privileged spot on Charming Kamil's fridge :) lalala, and music was also played a lot. mr k introduced me to some lovely bands (mascot, jack, girlfriendo etc. - there was more of them, only my silly self is too silly to remember names correctly) and i played him some songs by birdie. i only discovered them recently and am truly infatuated. oh, and i'd like to sound like their singer. :) hm, the super-fab mood i was in after that pleasant time was spoilt a bit by mum, who was really angry for some reason, and started yelling at me as soon as i walked into our flat. so i decided to go to sleep. -------------------------- friday was a fab day, but then came saturday, and the Horrid Exam. 'what one should do to fail an exam', courtesy of miss lala in the morning: get stressed get very stressed get so stressed you actually start to shiver and can't string 2 words together find out you had forgotten to wash your b&s t-shirt and therefore can't wear it as a lucky charm during the exam: stutter say rubbish forget what you wanted to say and only remeber it after the other person had said it let the other person speak twice as much as you do quote the smiths find out the examiner doesn't know what you're talking about and probably thinks you're an idiot stutter some more after the exam: burst into tears as soon as you leave the room and escape from your classmates ummh, i actually *cried* because i was so UPSET after an *EXAM* now that's not very james bond-like, is it? ;-) not very normal either. and i'm supposed to be all rational and grown-up in less than 2 weeks. tut tut but hey - speaking of which, you're all invited to my birthday party! :) i'm turning 18 on december 12th, and have invited loads of nice people over for 15th. and people say my flat is nice. (i'll tidy my room, promise). and i've got some nice cds. and my friends are farr more interesting/witty/pretty/clever/talented than myself, and you'd get to meet all of them :) come on, flights to warsaw can't be expensive, and you'd have free booze/birthday cake/tour of warsaw the next day ;-) mm? and i keep using 'and'. AND i'd like to END this ridiculous mail by sending e-mail hugs to all my friends.. most of whom aren't on sinister, but shh. 'i love you all', as cuddly damon gough sings. thankyoui'mnotworthy. special hugs to johnny, andreea and olivier 'strawberry boy' (one of the most gorgeous lurkers around :) and also to chris j, ulla (sorry i haven't mailed in ages!) and robert s. and a biiig hug to the whole of sinister, thank you for making my inbox so full of beauty, amusing anecdotes and detailed descriptions of the new b+s songs i probably won't be able to hear for ages. oops no, that last bit was not supposed to appear here ;-) have a nice day, olala/rachola cinnamon ps: stacey - i'm full of admiration for your child-controlling skills. :) i'm so terrible with kids, they just get bored and then play havoc with my room :) -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 09:59:14 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:59:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We've got class Message-ID: My God! Don't you just ADORE that Sir David of Stankin Cooter? What a lovely chap he is, with his funny, warm and affectionate posts. And yes, he is a lazy (though devilishly handsome) swine as I believe I am a recipient of one of those piles of gifts in his room. Although goodness knows how he's managed to neatly stack the dingo and kangaroo he's promised to send me.... I also adore Stacey "Dahling" Stackford. She's a Sinister SuperHero, you know, and is simply wonderful. I think she should subvert those children she's working with. She could teach them stories about charming little children called Belle and Sebastian who played in a band and went touring in a big bus. It could be a kind of Monkees/Jem/ Scooby Doo type hybrid thing. Jem was a funny woman, with HUGE pink hair in a mullet, a la those singing women in bands like Heart. I was wooed by someone who gave me a Jem book instead of a birthday card once. I think it was the inscription in the front of the book that did it: it was addressed to Maddie Magik. How could I resist? The new single (*gasp* content shocker!). Well, at the risk of alienating every single one of you: I don't like dogs. I really really don't like dogs. Their dewy eyes do not warm my heart. Their wet noses and excess saliva terrify me. There is one dog I am slightly fond of, but only because she's so incredibly stupid it feels mean to hate her. I digress. The cover put me off. The first listen didn't rock my world. Neither did the second. However, by the time I'd turned the volume right up and stood up for a little dance, I was sold. It's magnifique! The bassoon and oboe are grate, and make me laugh. When I was 14, I played the oboe in two school orchestras and my best friend played the bassoon. We were the reed instrument gang. The clarinets could join in because they were single reed, but we were double reed. Aren't teenagers exclusive? I enjoyed the Later... moments. I didn't actually get to watch them until yesterday. Even though I was taping it, I wanted to come home from the pub on Friday night to watch too. Instead, I got dragged to some snooty over-priced after hours bar. Last things I remember from the night? Haranguing a man who tried to trick me into kissing him two years ago (I have a long memory for tricksters) and watching the loved one dance, mad as a bucket, to Stevie Wonder in the middle of the room. How I got home.... who can say? Christmas is making me very excited at the moment. I can appreciate why it's horrible if people don't feel they can spend it the way they want to. When I was younger I hated it, as my family were all at each others' throats. Now, we just pour wine, gin, beer and other toxics down out throats and get on swimmingly. Also, I'm a big greedy fan of materialism when it comes to Christmas. Where's my stuff? Give me more shiny, useless plastic STUFF! It has to be useless, that's the most important factor of a gift. While I was very grateful when my Dad gave me a television arial, a wee frying pan and a tool kit, my heart sank when I realised they would actually *do* something. I like things I can put on the shelf and look at while they collect dust and fade slightly in the sunlight. I loved Sir David's idea about a #sinister Top of the Pops. There could be garish graphics and irritating back ground music. Honey and Linda could present it. Vicky Vodkabird could be the roving reporter. Ken could be the pervy bloke in the audience who pinches girls' bottoms while they're watching the 10 to 2 run down. I would be the disappointing chart entry at number 18, I think. A poor showing, due to my lack of publicity and promotion. I make no appearances at picnics, pubnics, gigs, etc. I never have my photo taken. I don't do interviews... well, it worked for B&S. After expressing a general indifference to each and every one of you, I am now quite overcome with affection. Props to you all, but especially to Rob Brennan (he has Stu M brand arms of sex, you know. That's what he told me anyway. Gullible? Moi?) Dannypants Farrell who is grand and class and all the other daft words that I use Lovely Miss Honey, who I am slowly but surely corrupting Lluscious Lliterary Llaura Llew, who underneath her benevolent exterior hides a heart of true malevolence. You're all darlings and I heart the lot of you. I will be vile and bitter again by the next post, I promise. Love Madeleine xxxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 3 11:19:10 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 11:19:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: you saved for a bass guitar... Message-ID: <3C0B5FAE.938B618B@camb.linst.ac.uk> greetings people, just like to apologise for my last post, i didnt mean to offend anyone, i just have a habit of saying things i dont mean sometimes. It felt really autumnal on sunday. My new house has real fireplaces so we made a fire and i went for a walk in the leafy streets of Herne Hill. It was brilliant. We have only lived there a week and we have already had complaints from downstairs, mind you, we did decide to break-dance at one in the morning. My attempts were quite poor, i managed to roll on the floor and wave my legs in the air a bit but was told i looked like a puppy scratching its back. In the end i opted for standing in the corner with my arms folded trying to look "hard". I also bought some records on saturday. Camera Obscura is outstanding. It makes me want to be in love or at least be all gooey about someone, in fact, i want to go home now so i can listen to it. my favourites are "Eighties Fan " and "pen and notebook". Hopefully i will see some of you at the gig on wednesday, i am very much looking forward to a good old indie night. I also bought the the B&S ep. It's quite dreamy and wandery and the trumpet part in the second song reminds me of the last track off of Radiohead's album. I have to say i really dislike the cover, the text is just all wrong, but that's just me being a fussy graphics student. Joan of Dark mentioned sending christmas prezzies(i think?) and i agree that would be a fab idea, we could have a site to see what everyone sent each other. Good luck to Rachel fruitloop and Ben Apps, you are both very brave but i'm sure you will have a fab time. this messege board is fab love hannahxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 12:43:02 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 12:43:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: keys & psychobabble Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011203120356.02dd0628@pop.orpheusdesign.com> this is off-topic a bit. yes. totally off-topic. ah. our London-based indie pop band (Jinx) is looking for a female keyboardist. we're in the vein of the Lucksmiths, early Cure, etc, with indiepop boy/girl harmonies. generally we're looking for creative sorts above and beyond music. piano players encouraged - and we actually have a Roland keyboard for those who might be discouraged by lack of equipment. the key ingredient would be enthusiasm for indie pop. email me off-list for access to songs and more info. btw, sorry for lurking for so long. i've had little to say. maybe i've been just living in the doldrums. somehow that reminds me of Shel Silverstein - the poet of "Where the Sidewalk Ends". A good read for any of you who love children's books. oh and on a personal note, i'm sick. why is it that holidays and colds seem to go hand-in-hand? is there a parallel between the warmth you feel inside in both? as for b&s content, i had a bit of a question. given that Tigermilk was 'produced' for that uni songwriting contest, has anyone kept up with the goings-on of that contest post-Stevie/Stuart? i'm curious if there are any other stars in the rough there... does anyone on the list actually attend there now? last bit: go see camera obscura/tompaulin/chris leonard wed night (london, spitz) and then see tram/the relict at the spitz (dec 15). chris [ aka senor droolcup ] PS: i may be breaking two rules here (1/not B&S topic, 2/indie bands don't advertise for members in public), but tough. i couldn't resist because generally some of the nicest folks i've met are from this list, and getting along well is pretty key in a band. if honey wants to admonish me, i shall take it with distinction. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 13:48:23 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 13:48:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Logic of a blind herd Message-ID: Dearest everyone, It appears that I'm the only person who likes Christmas so I'll stop bloating now about how I'm going to have a great fun time with 9 days off work and watching Belle & Sebastian live. max said: >I hope some of you can empathize for one reason or another, with this >mutual pain and exhiliration you receive when there's someone out there >you love, and just doesn't love you back. I have never felt that before, everyone I loved have always loved me back. They always have a funny way of showing me that tho, like for example snogging other boys. Right, there's the girlie moan out of the way, time for Reporting Back. (Reporting Back is great, it has the same initials as Red Bull) Not much to report back, actually, apart from STUART SAID "WANK". Rock On. Poor Isobel had another asthma attack, and had trouble playing the recorder, but then I saw her smiling when she was dancing around clapping to Ben Dover (that's my new dirty pet name for "the boy with the arab strap") and I realised that I still want to have her baby, heh. I think I messed that expression up again. Idles talked about Jools Holland's face thing, actaully I noticed that too, but I'd just dismissed it as him being a weirdo. He always had those weird face things, actually, and talked weird. But he so obviously didn't like B&S, there were no interviews, and he didn't say "great" or "brilliant" or "fantastic" once when B&S played - when he doesn't know how to say any other words! Didn't they take the piss out of him at the fast show about that? Anyway, I am shocked to notice that none of you have mentioned the real star of the "Later..." show, not Stuart Murdoch, not Stevie Jackson, not Mick Cooke, not even Tom Jones, but Souad Massi! I want to have her babies too. I was a clever boy who used two VCRs to record "Later...", because I knew that I am a clumsy idiot who would mess up at least one of the recordings, and I did. I set one of the VCRs to record Channel 5 by accident and instead of Stuart singing about wanking with an Arab Strap I got footages of people actually playing with Arab Straps instead, okay actaully it was just soft porn but that's rather less dramatic. Are there any girls who wants to play the Flirt Over The List Game with me? Basically you can tell me how good I am publically on the list and then I can write back something about how wonderful you are? Or are you all just going to snog other boys too? Praises and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Right, that mix tape challenge thing, are you still playing? Who's playing? From my "database" i have Chriss, Wills and Rachels, is that still right? What about Rob/ins? Can someone from each namegroup send me an e-mail so I can give you my address? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matt at xxx.uk Mon Dec 3 14:35:15 2001 From: matt at xxx.uk (matt at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:35:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is Fred still on the list? Message-ID: <20011203143515.OBLS26370.fep08-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> I'm looking for Fred. You sent me a copy of Belle and Sebastian on video tape for trade. I never sent you the copy the B&S show at Ipswich this year. My computer broke and I now have a new one. I've lost your e-mail address and you didn't put a copy of it in with the video. All I know is that you signed the yellow post-it note with Fred. Hear from you soon I hope, Matt (PS: this goes to all those other people who sent me a message about trading the show, I don't have any of you e-mail addresses anymore, sorry. E-mail me directly) _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From majasp at xxx.pl Mon Dec 3 17:35:17 2001 From: majasp at xxx.pl (Maja) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2001 18:35:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: here I go.... Message-ID: <007f01d7e86c$2706fb80$870ea0d4@007> Dear Sinister, This is my first time on this mailing list. Please don't be too hard with me. I'm a bit nervous, even ;) Today was a really nice day. I woke up at 10:30, got dressed and went to school where I found out that the teachers who I was supposed to have lessons from were both ill and wouldn't be back until the end of the week. YAY! My friends came to visit me and asked me how i felt and if I needed some help (you people don't know it yet, but I had broken my leg in two places. And now, after having taken off the plaster, I still have to use crutches and can't walk at all). After "really hard classes", I went to my first rehab appointment where my menthor told me what she was going do with my leg, and what kind of exercises I should do. I also saw my friend there. He also broke his leg one month ago. We talked a while and said "bye and take care" to eachother. When I got home, I had dinner and I made some nice Christmas presents for my friends from Finland and the UK. I still have to make some more of them; it's a really nice thing to do. I've read some stories about the Moomin trolls for the 4th time; I love them! Those stories are full of nostalgia, longing and loneliness and have nice illustrations (I plan to get a tattoo on my buttock of one of them in January;-)). Right now I'm very upset because my sister is leaving me and going back to Warsaw today and I will miss her so.... Oh, the year 2001 is almost over. I must say that I've really done everything (o.k, *almost* everything) I wanted to do. For example: I started to play drums at the school of music, I've met Evelyn who showed me the meaning of true friendship, I've bought a new bass guitar, I've managed to organize the band I play in, I went to London, etc. I've also met many fantastic and interesting people like Ola. I love her passion for music and her super cool English accent (thank you Ola! A big hug goes to you, sweet one ;*). The only plan I didn't manage to carry out was to stop loving an older man. Erm...and I'm sad that I've lost good contact with him. Now he's almost like a dream to me. GOSH! 3 years of being in love with the same man, who will never even be mine! I wish I could find real love without constant pain. But the question is: where is it? Where the hell I can find it?! I hope that next year will be also nice to me, and to other people too. And may all bad things go to hell. What are your plans for the New Year's eve?! I think it's going to be a fantastic time for me. Loads of friends are coming from different countries to visit me, and there will be at least 5 bottles of Malibu and Diet Coke. Yummy! Another cool thing is that Myslovitz (my favourite Polish band) are coming to play in the town i live (which is very small, only 8,000 people live here). Their bass player has told me yesterday that they're busy making new songs for their next CD. I'm so excited!!! I've already heard some of it, and I must say I'm impressed. It sounded a bit like Low and (God bless them)...Sigur-Rós! hehe... (Btw, the same guy has also told me that Myslovitz are going to London again in spring hehe..) Wow! It's already real winter in my town. Everything's covered in snow and kids are playing on the streets and make silly snowmen ;-). And the skiers whizz on the slopes. booo... I will have to leave my skis and sledge at home this year because of my poor leg.... O.K that's all for this "blah-blah" e-mail... I apologise for writing such uninteresting things Take care and be careful with your health! maja P.S- My mum has just brought me a advant calendar with chocolates inside ;))) -- Tego nie znajdziesz w żadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Dec 3 17:56:30 2001 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:56:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Well hello there... Message-ID: Hello there, I haven't been on here for oooh ages. Over 6 months probably. I have to confess that due to having joined the rat-race and got myself a job I have been a bit too busy to keep up with Sinister but I try to read as many of the dozens of posts I get in my inbox every day. www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Don't know how many of you check out my site on a regular basis (maybe none of you do) but if you don't why not do it now and take part in the second (annual?) B&S fan's survey. Go to the site, click on Votes and then Best of 2001 and fill in the form. I hope to get the results up by the beginning of February, which is not long so I'm probably being a bit optimistic what with having a million and one other things to do. The voting will definitely (maybe) close at the start of January. Eh, what else have I got to say... (scratches head for a minute) I bought the new Beta Band album the other week. It's great, highly recommended. I like the new B&S EP a lot (no 39 in the charts though, do the "kids" have no taste these days?) and have since discovered that I also like Jonathan David a lot more than I first thought. Waking Up sounds reminiscant of the War of the Worlds song that I saw mention of on Sinister the other day. I Love My Car is class, but it is basically Itchycoo Park, but hey that's not a bad thing is it? Marx and whatsit is alright, but probably the least interesting of the 3 but it's B&S so it's alright though. The band were good on the telly the other night too. Shit, you wait ages to write a letter and then can't think of anything to say... David White david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Mon Dec 3 18:44:17 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:44:17 +1300 Subject: Sinister: avert your eyes children, he may take on other forms .... Message-ID: <007901c17c2e$0139f580$286137d2@computer> OK, brace yourself ... this is going to be a long one. **STUFF ABOUT WEDDINGS** Well, in case anyone is interested, I've just returned home from my honeymoon, having been married a few weeks ago here in Auckland. Anyone interested in the days proceeding read on .. Feel free to skip to the next post, or at least the stuff at the end of this post which is about pop, and not about me getting married. OK. Well, yeah, it all went well. I'd been freaking out, mainly because the whole day turned out to be quite a big event, which is not what I wanted/expected. My idea wedding would have had about 50 people - close friends, family etc., whereas we ended up having close on 200. Anyway, Vanessa and I had both been pretty stressed out . sniping at each other for the last few months etc. (Shawn .. You remember, right?) So when the day came along it all went rather smoothly. The service was at a Catholic Church, with an instrumental version of "You Still Believe In Me" from the 'Pet Sounds' box set, courtesy of Sinister listee Scott Mannion. I can't really remember much of the service, suffice to say I walked out of the church (to an instrumental version of "Wouldn't it be Nice") a married man. My best man, who was a bit of a pain in the arse the few days before the wedding, turned out to be really great, and he, Vanessa, her bridesmaid and I had a lot of fun being photographed at various hip locations around Auckland for the next few hours. (I'll be putting some photos up for anyone interested . URL coming soon.) The best thing about the day, though, was two of my best friends secretly arriving from the UK without telling me. Andrew,, who was originally going to be my best man, but then couldn't make it, turned up on Friday morning wrapped in a blanket. Which made me so happy and then. At the wedding service I spotted another fried, Dave, in the audience. Dave (also an ex-pay NZer) also said he couldn't make it, and then decided to come home at the last moment. Which, again, was amazing, and made the day that much sweeter for me. The reception was nice . good food, and I managed to make my speech without either freaking out, bursting into tears etc. The aformentiond Scott Mannion provided kick-ass DJing, with an eclectic mix of Phil Spector pop, Blondie, B&S, The Modern Lovers, 60's pop and Motown/Northern Soul. It was all great until Vanessa's mother hijacked the decks towards the end of the night and made him play Croatian dance music. (sigh) So that's it really. After a days layover here in Auckland Vanessa and I flew to Hawaii, for five nights in Waikiki and a week on Kauai. It is at this point that I must APPOLOGISE TO AMERICANS. I used to think you were a little dull when you came to New Zealand. Anyway, I spent most of my time on Kauai feeling a little retarded, and very embarrassed. Simple things like filling the car up with petrol, driving on the other side of the road etc. were just different enough to be a little confusing, and I felt like some dumb hick, or some savage who just crawled out of the jungle. I'm very sorry. Still, it was great. We hired a car, and I careered madly around the island on the "wrong side of the road", saw waterfalls, drove through a small river, ate good seafood etc. etc. Arrived back a couple of days ago, and have just been catching up with family, unpacking my stuff etc. Anyway, that's probably enough about all that wedding stuff. **STUFF ABOUT POP MUSIC** **B&S** When I arrived back there was a copy of the new B&S single in my mailbox. It 's brilliant . the last two singles have just sounded so amazing. "I Love My Car" would be my (current) favourite B&S song of all time. The horn section is genius. And the artwork ... Sarah Martin, if I weren't a married man I'd be sending you flowers everyday. Does anyone know anything about the "Storytelling" soundtrack. Reading that interview with Stuart, he sounded a little pissed off about the whole thing. Is the s/t album still coming out? It sounds like the band were working on the LP long after the film was finished. Does this mean with will morph into a new LP proper? Oh please let it ... **CAMERA OBSCURA** Also came home to their debut album. It's excellent .. Highly recommended to B&S fans, especially the brilliant "Eighties Fan" produced by Stuart Murdoch. **SODASTREAM** How come no one has ever told me about them? I discovered them about a month ago and have become obsessed. Any other fans? Their new album " A Different Lifetime" is a work of genius, if only for the song "Scottish Pop" which namechecks both Stuart Murdoch and Edwyn Collins. They remind me of Orange Juice in a way, along with a bit of Hefner and Cinerama and "His'n'Hers" era Pulp thrown into the mix. Anyway, this has gone on far too long, and isn't quite as coherent as I could have hoped. Still, hope all is well in Sinister-land. Will try to post sometime more interesting, and shorted, soon. Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 20:38:41 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:38:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Something Message-ID: <20011203203841.1684.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> I heard about George Harrison's death in that odd, halfway way - someone was talking about a George, and the film industry, in the past tense. And you put it together, and think you know what it has to mean: and it did. Sadness at this death: sadness in the life too? Maybe it was just the way his eyes came to look. Or the way that a presumed superstar, who should have had anything and everything, looked shifty and reluctant. Tiredness; silence. Absences: where is he? You'd remember, every five years or so, that we'd all heard nothing from him: and sigh. But this could be a mere projection: maybe he found the life he wanted. Gardening, playing music with friends, making lazy jokes? In a snippet of quotation on his involvement with the Natural Law Party - who seem the most foolish of follies - he talks of how if the party won, they might really be able to "take on MI5 or whoever runs this country" - and this kind of fighting talk is good to see: suggests that he hadn't quite forgotten the lessons, or the beliefs, of the decade for which he invented some of the shorthand. I didn't, don't, know his music well enough. At least I can say that my attitude to it and him haven't suddenly changed with his death: the distant interest and sympathy I feel now (as you do for the dead) is (for once) what I felt about his records when he was alive. At least, thanks to a sinister comrade, I got to hear All Things Must Pass, on rotation for weeks as washing-up music, before he went. The extraordinary Spectortastickisms, the tumbling cracker-barrel, of 'Awaiting On You All'. The slow acoustic burn of 'My Sweet Lord' - which is beautifully crafted and arranged despite its silly lyrical coda. More distantly, in childhood - the 1980 (?) LP with 'Faster', about the racing driver. The sort of song that a child would like. And great craftsmanship, real musical skill, runs through his work. I always did think of him as a great songwriter in his way. He had his own trademarks (in chords and melodies), which I've wished before that I could identify; and almost everything he wrote was musically subtle. One reason, perhaps, why it also feels frail - weak, in need of protection, or of a hug. Nicky D, who unlike me knows the entire back catalogue extremely well, has had harsh things to say about him, but writes eloquently of crying at his death - crying for himself: for the passing of time, for a (cross-)generational loss: for our childhoods, that were really gone long ago but of whose vanishing we're occasionally reminded, by vanishing acts like this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whytey1982 at xxx.com Mon Dec 3 20:46:08 2001 From: whytey1982 at xxx.com (Alan Whyte) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 20:46:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I love his car, i must admit my life is quite bizarre. Message-ID: Sometimes a lot of strange things happen. Power doesn't work. You come close to death. You see Stuart Murdoch. You refuse to speak. You bleed a lot. Love triangles. Friends re-appear. Bizarre goings on last week... and today. Last week my friend Dr� came home after 12 weeks in the army. Still his old self, perhaps a little more somber. He's not enjoying it though, he's a bit depressed and i worry about him. He's not suited to it at all, just too lazy to get a job. Strange. He shot someone in the leg... his friend. He'll survive though :) Found out that my two friends had split up. They keep phoning me for advice. I'm hopeless and i'm also caught in the middle. Oh well. I really like them both too. They're not right for each other though, but what can i say? "Gravitation can not be held responsible for people falling in love." Losing control of a car is a bad idea. Don't ever do a 360 degree turn on a country road. Swerving onto the other side and spinning round in circles, while fun, can be quite frightening too. I laughed. Others didn't. Today i bled for no apparent reason. Nothing serious though, just my nose and lip. But it did run onto my clothes. It's stopped now, thankfully. I decided when i got up this morning, again for no apparent reason, that i wouldn't speak today. It lasted a while. Till 12.30 or so when my lecturer moaned at me and i had to reply. I relied on facial expressions as a response; a kind of social experiment :) I acted very strangely today; a mixture of tiredness and a cluttered mind. It got me thinking whether everyone sees me as strange, or whether my close friends are immune to it. I think i'm immune to them now, though they still have their little idiosyncrasies and bouts of senselessness. We all do from time to time i'm sure :) B&S were fantastic on Jools Holland. As i'm well known for my obsession with them at college i have been receiving phone calls all weekend from people who have berated me a lot in the past, to tell me that B&S are indeed superb. Why did they not listen to me before? Oh well, their loss. I'm now giving people a loan of some B&S stuff in an attempt to increase sales of IWUTU hehe :) It charted at 39 and the price has gone up �1 - a scandal! Anyway, i was very surprised/excited to see Mr Murdoch the following day. I didn't speak to him, didn't want to bother him really and i would have been really nervous. Instead i just watched him for about 2 hours, watched how he reacted to certain events. I also seen max (the car) in real life. He was parked two rows in front of my dads car. Stuart was with a very bearded man who i think was a roadie for the band at the barras. Thick black glasses, very cool/geeky look. I could explain further where it was but only a few people will know where it is anyway. Broadwood anyone? Over excited celebrations, including a raised fist in the air. Yes, a football match. I've seen him a few times now, maybe i'll pluck up the courage to say hello the next time :) Power failure today in Kilmarnock and surrounding area. It was meant to be till six, but it only lasted about 30 mins (about 2.30-3pm). I couldn't get a drink or food or anything. Damn. Lost my work on computer too. It made me realize how much we rely on electricity. People were running around in circles, all the shops closed and there was a general sense of panic. People jumping on buses, going anywhere in search of precious, precious electricity. Reminded me of a story from Generation X. It also reminded me to go to see the re-release of Apocalypse Now... You should too. Oh well, until next time (wee)Alan xxx PS - I read the diaries of Adam and Eve today on the bus. It's not mine, but a very kind lady sent it to my friend and i completely agree with the comments she made on the Post-it note on the front :) "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Dec 3 21:51:20 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:51:20 Subject: Sinister: strokestickets, euphoria and strange meetings at bus stops. Message-ID: <201115340@spray.se> Hello hey sinister cuties! I hope that you are all feeling good tonight, i know i do. i haven´t got the slightest idea why, but i am in a good mood. oh well. i shouldn´t complain, hee hee. The nowadays married Lawrence Mikkelsen wrote: **SODASTREAM** How come no one has ever told me about them? I discovered them about a month ago and have become obsessed. Any other fans? Their new album " A Different Lifetime" is a work of genius, if only for the song "Scottish Pop" which namechecks both Stuart Murdoch and Edwyn Collins. They remind me of Orange Juice in a way, along with a bit of Hefner and Cinerama and "His'n'Hers" era Pulp thrown into the mix. I guess it was just a mix-up, but it is Spearmint that you are talking about. They´re albums Songs for the colour yellow (early singles & b-sides) A week away Oklahoma! and A different Lifetime is absolutely gorgeous, I love them so much. And just the singer´s name; Shirley Lee! You can´t help but adore him. Spearmint are great, they make really grate and lovely pop. A friend recommended them to me back in easter 2000, the same time as when i discovered the fluffy cardiganworld of B&S. and i haven´t regretted it since :) We´re celebrating Saint Lucia in Sweden. It´s originally from Italy, so I think they celebrate it there too, but in Sweden, we all get to wear like.. robes.. kind of.. well..er.. a white kind of robe, often with horrible lace collar on it as well, looks like something that you´re supposed to sleep in. and you make like walk in a sort of procession (dunno if it´s what it´s called but i do not have the strength to go to my room and get the dicionary), with the girl who´s the Lucia first, she has the white-robe-thing, a red, silk band tied around her waist and a crown with burning candles in her hair. (when you´re a wee kid you have small electric one´s instead of real candles of course, imagine lots of candles and lots of restless kids, not a good combination). and after her, the other girls walk, holding one candle each with the white-robe-things and silverglitter in their hair, it looks like soft gloria´s resting on their heads, relly beautiful, and some of the boys have the white-robe-thing on, and little papercones on their head with golden stars on and a stick with a big golden star on it. as being 15-yr-old-boys, most of them start to duel with the sticks instead of looking like "starboys" (that´s what they´re called, pretty, huh?) but they´re kinda sweet anyway. after them, three boys or girls walk in brown clothes, supposed to be gingerbreadboys (or girls) and they have a special little song to sing that´s a real swedish classic ("we come from gingerbreadland"). after them, some boys and girls also dress up in red clothes and are santa´s little helpers. then we all stand with our burning candles and whiterobethings and sing way too high-pitched-songs made for seven year old-girls and not for us. but altogether, it always turn out so incredbily beautiful, all dark except for the lucia and the girls with candles. it must sound *so* strange. i´m going to be one of the angelgirls this year. i always am. although, one year i was a gingerbread girl and i´ve been santa´s helper quite a few times as well. if you think *that* sounds strange, wait til the time when i tell you about midsummer when we dance around a leaf-clad-pole in a ring pretending we are frogs, mosquitos and elephants. i´ll tell you about that some other time, kids. I love the new single. I think it´s bloody great. I´ve got two friends getting intereted in B&S through it. YAY! I´ve only just started to appreciate Marx & Engels. And now I fully love all of the tracks to the max. They are all gorgeous! There are so many sweet and nice people on sinister, I want to say hello to: Tom: miss you miss you miss you miss you. *sigh* Rachel Oj: you´re the best! ever! i hope we get to meet soon, come to sweden again, now! Ken Chu: Well, um, hello. I listened to some of the Red Bulldozer´s tracks. Actually just Like A Virgin, but I downloaded it at a friends because she can download so much quicker than i, and it just came on repeat and none of my friends or i notices until we all realised that we were having a great singalong, all of us singing the lyrics whilst looking at photo´s and me at sinisterposts. hee hee. James: Look out for Sally :) And to everyone I´ve forgot to mention because of my ruddy memory: hello to you too. I got tickets to go see the strokes today, yay! i might get backstagepasses as well, but that´s not clear yet. anyway, i made an excuse fo rmyslef to go earlier form class, went to the telephonebox and called the ticketplace. aah. it will be so great, but it´s on the March 4th, so it´s some time left before the actual event. today our band, brighten, (http://www.brightenyeah.cjb.net), met up with a strange girl from the internet that might sing in our band. we had decided to meet at a bus stop. we did. it was quite strange, but she seemed quite nice actually. but i don´t know. hmm. we´ll have to rehearse with her and see how it goes. we might take in a boy on the drums also, christopher, he´s a very kind person. i like him. not in *that* way, but he´s cool and a very good drummer. now my friends, i shall not torture you with weird swedish traditions or my rambling. take care! love and stars, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Mon Dec 3 21:02:16 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:02:16 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: First audition to "I'm Waking... "(plus KARATE and answer to Daniela) Message-ID: <20011203210216.E3EF1278DA@mx02.osite.com.br> Ok, yesterday I sat in front of the stereo, turned it on softly and, while I was preparing my own dinner (my parents are travelling and I'm home alone), the "I'm waking up to us" audition began. I try not to make this first audition too solemn, because the more solemnity you allow things to have, more disappointing they get in the end - this is what usually happens with first dates and first working days. So, I tried to listen to single casually, as if it had been part of my collection for years and years. The result was just satisfying, what is terribly strange... I usually feel a perfect connection between B&S songs and my own life, but, this time, it was only satisfying. I listened in random mode, so started with "Marx and Engels". The song is pretty, undeniable... pretty, fluffy, adjusted. But was that enough? The second, in my random mode, was "I Love My Car", and I found it was excessively long and a little too monochordic. When I listened again this morning to this particular track, I liked it better, but I don't like the sensation of "assimilation" to songs. I didn't have to assimilate "Jonathan David", and either any track from "Fold Your Hands...". They all just slapped me in the face and mind, some a little more enthusastically, some a little less... but I didn't have to experiment "assimilation". Then "I'm Waking Up to Us" showed, and I considered, at first, the best. ok, I agree it may be because it's the "poppiest", the more easy-listening style. But that was the one that made me feel something real. Stuart sang in the beginning so dramatically I thought it was going to turn into a very corny song, but then things started to fit and I realized the track was really fine. The best, I guess... I don't discard the possibilty that I am going to say that "Waking..." is fabulous, until the end of the year. Impressions are mutable, and that's the reason for calling them "impressions" and not "convictions". But that's what I'm experiencing now. Beto P.S. : KARATE is a very nice band! Past year I ordered "In Place of Real Insight", but the guy never brought it. Complete frustration! I have to consolate with my subterranean mp3 files until a new opportunity appears. P.S.(2): Daniela, I bought my imported edition through a small store from Rio, but you can find the local edition in S�o Paulo, at FNAC Pinheiros. The price is R$10,90. If you want, you can order online from FNAC. Their shipping and handling service is ok! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 05:07:16 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 00:07:16 EST Subject: Sinister: A catalogue of immaturity Message-ID: <153.515bffc.293db405@aol.com> 12/3/2001 9:58 p.m. and I'm writing a professor begging to make up a grade. You'd think a 21 year-old in her fourth year of college would have learned to grow up by now and quit procrastinating and well, get on the horse. And get it done. But--as I creep toward my septic thirties, I find myself scuttling toward the antithesis of what I am supposed to me doing--that being, taking care of business, scheduling appointments, doing my taxes on time, cleaning up after myself--the truth is, I am far from that. I am a messy little beetle who couldn't save herself to save herself (props to the Lucksmiths for that one). Here's a catalogue of my growing immaturity. ITEM A00985-- TOTALLY FULL OF SHIT Here we have what we call a pretentious tone of voice and propped posture, a cigarette balanced between a claw-like hand, and a confident rolling voice. Underneath her own skin, the petitioner is very much creeped out by the completely full-of-shit tone of voice she has--everything the defendant says, the petitioner accidentally mocks, accidentally rolling her eyes--and my god, it's like someone else is talking for her. See; what it comes down to is that I am the most full of shit person I've ever met. I am just absolutely always blowing smoke. Count on me to completely embellish something. Whenever I am conversing with someone I do not know very well my mind just wriggles at the lameness that escapes from my mouth; how I can manage to sound soooo pretentious and yet, completely self-deprecating at the same time. I'm a daft ho-bag. ITEM Z-56UT A GIMMICK I seem to always be involving myself with something gimmicky. Three months ago I decided I wanted Ice Cube to be my favorite actor. It wasn't like anything really drove me to a point where I thought he was a really great guy, or even that he had really great hair, but I just liked the idea of it all. Ice Cube. Whose favorite actor is Ice Cube? Nobody. A week ago I decided that I should like Duran Duran. Like, be Duran Duran crazy--have my handbag covered in Duran Duran badges, talk constantly about the genius of Simon LeBon, have a room peppered in Duran Duran memorabilia. For the same reasons as Ice Cube, there was no real motivation for behind this gimmick, so it failed before it even began. ITEM 45re4480 TOTALLY FEEL SORRY FOR ME My life is really boring and uneventful, but oftentimes I totally feel sorry for myself. I just wail on my bed and cry about the days when I was goth. There is oh-so-much more.. to be continued. Side-stepping, Mandee m a y +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Dec 4 10:38:44 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:38:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I love his car, i must admit my life is quite bizarre. Message-ID: <005f01c17caf$da0b9e00$2bd0fc3e@neil> Alan, Cool I can handle, but geeky? Or Roadie? Easy there. Not a bad game eh? Are you an Ayr fan? Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 13:46:44 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:46:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20011204134644.31258.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i got a big fat warning from yahoo this morning, telling me i was nearing my 6MB storage limit and to get my arse in gear and clean out my mailbox. unfortunately this happened at a time when i was very busy at work, so i was forced to do a rather thorough job of it and get rid of the pile of mails i'd stocked up to reply to in one fell swoop as soon as i had time. so no individual mail comments, sorry - although two or three managed to catch my attention as they whizzed past me into the dustbin ... pinefox, your piece on george harrison knocks the socks off anything else i've read about him recently. respect. vodkabird, your piece on flatmates made me chuckle, laugh, and guffaw. i now feel like i've had it very easy flatmate-wise. dahling's greek meetup in march sounds soooo tempting, especially today looking out at the wintry sky. don't know if i'll make it, but what an idea! ... there were too many more mails, so i'll stop there. i've got a PFW (person from work - people from work are always weird, don't you find?) interested in belle and sebastian! he saw my computer wallpaper, composed of ken chu's winning entry in the TOTP drawing contest, and he said "who the hell are belle and sebastian?". i played it cool, replied "oh, they're a band", but he wanted more info as he'd never heard of them. so i pointed him to some web sites and off he went. i thought no more about it until i got a mail later that day - our PFW had perused the websites and found the whole thing so intriguing he went to amazon and downloaded what he could find of B&S ... and he was most impressed. "i didn't know there were still bands like this - a sort of early smiths vibe, isn't it?", meaning not just the music but the whole fan community thing. really, it was a great feeling, enabling the discovery of B&S by someone who'd no prior knowledge of them at all. and a PFW as well! my prejudices vis a vis PFWs have taken yet another battering recently, having met a lady PFW who - gasp! -likes comics. how strange. the moral of the story is: never underestimate PFWs. contrary to appearances, it's very possible they share the same rich inner life you do. the person you seem in the work environment is seldom the whole you, after all. so, embrace your PFWs! share the love! dare to throw cultural references into conversations by the water cooler! because *you never know* ... that's it from me. i hear the tea machine calling. rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________ Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! The competition ends 16 th of December 2001. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Tue Dec 4 16:21:31 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:21:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hollyoax and 'Enders Message-ID: There is misery in all I hear and see >From the people on TV After my tea when Corrie starts again I'll be watching channel 3 There are a million people slagging Emmerdale on Points of View, I saw today It was Dot I met in the Launderette with a girl from Weatherfield She spoke of Doctor Legg I didn't understand But the one thing she made clear Jim was not coming on to her There were no glasses left That he could collect But he couldn't see That Dot just wants to be Left alone with Mark and Ethel for a while (I'm writing in the style of one of KenChu's posts) hmm......apologies to non-UK (and non-soap watching) listees. Hello Everyone! This will be the last post to sinister by Apps Ben (Mr B). PFW (thanks Rener!) are asking questions. He's gonna miss you all dearly. Watch your backs though, while he's away his evil kid brother "benapps at hotmail.com" will try do assume his identity and do all manner of silly things. PF spoke about George Harrison - I've grown to appreciate the Beatles as I've got older, and the way my mum talks about them really emphasises what a special time they lived through and I suppose influenced too. In a way I think it's an especially sad death because of the number of people around the world who will be saddened. Christmas. I'm pretty ambivolent to it really. As a kid it meant extra choir practices, carol concerts and midnight mass, so I've got fond memories. I don't remember ever believing in Father Christmas though. Now I kind of switch off to it, my family don't speak much round the year and that doesn't change at Xmas, even if we're in the same room. Aren't I a bundle of joy! Hopefully this will be rectified by drinking and dancing tomorrow night to Tompaulin and Camera Obscura. I know I'll see YOU there ;-) humbug Ben xxx P.S. I think I forgot to say Fruitloop!! how could I? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 17:34:27 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew Churchman) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:34:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: karate Message-ID: <20011204173427.72553.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> You're talking about the Karate from Boston right? Did you see karate at Wheaton college on Friday? They're playing the middle east this Saturday too. My friends the helms played with them at Wheaton, I wished I coulda gone. They're an amazing band (both karate and helms). Glad to see someone bringing up something besides blabbering about their day, which a lot of people have been doing recentely... were's honey? --- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Tue Dec 4 19:34:56 2001 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:34:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: FWD: RE: Bus to Belfast Message-ID: <3C1663A5@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> attention to the kids of the irish sinister massive i thought it would be easier to mail this to sinister for all to see, since i don't have contact details for some of the lurkers...below is an email from the promoter for the belfast gig, confirming that the belfast bus has been cancelled due to lack of interest - since when did all the b&s fans have big pots of gold from which to hire private jets and the like ( i presume that's how they're getting there anyway) so if mark sweeney cares to organise a bus, there are five of us in need...otherwise, someone mentioned digging out their dog on wheels - can i have a jaunt? i'll just grab on to the tail or summat... this does cast a bit of a pall on it for me, it may work out to cost a hell of a lot of money in the end, but as i keep telling myself - it'll be worth it! any irish members with ideas, please share them quick! trish delish >===== Original Message From Colin Murray ===== Hi, It's actually true, I.m afraid What happened is quite simple. People in Dublin were buying tickets for the gig at a very fast rate, but not for the bus. In fact, the only tickets left were for bus / gig. Therefore, if we had have kept the bus on, Ticketmaster predicted we would have had only 10 - 20 people on bus, which would have cost the charity money. We couldn't justify this. I think you and your friends were the only ones needing the bus as we sold NO tickets! I knwo this is a nightmare for you and I thought of you at the time but I had NO option. I can recommend cheap place to stay up here and the trains are cool and they stop in Newry! Speak soon, Colin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 19:53:43 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:53:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: slithy toves Message-ID: hey you sexy thangs you'll be glad to know that my epic navel-gazing and brat-sitting posts may be over. oh yes. i've found a new outlet for my self-involved babble. named, a silly site: http://www.dreamwater.net/slithytoves (i had another host but they DELETED me! already! i didn't even have a chance to offend! hmph.) and a diaryland diary. mmm hmmmmm. who else of you is on there? i've been playing with the silliness for a few fun sleepless nights (and maybe that is reflected in the yet unfinished product..hmmm) and it's also given me many ideas. one of them is to collect things. like poems. from everyone i talk to. like you and you and you. please pen a verse or two for me. the shorter and more abstract the better. yes. you'll see. or you can. there are a few already. anonymous. at callooh callay. anyway...i'm bored. humour me. i did find really odd tove-related things actually. they scare me, some of them. as does a hippie calls himself the frumious bandersnatch. there are lots of lists, too. i like lists. of things i like. mail me. visit me. love me. MWAH ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 22:25:24 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Marianna Longmire) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Jamie does it again! Message-ID: Good God. This evening, whilst stuck at work, I was watching the telly (one of the few perks of working at a b+b - getting paid to do nothing occasionally), when The Naked Chef came on the beeb. And the opening refrain? Legal Man. Eek! Egads! No! I hear you say. I feel violated. And I'm doubly offended by the number of times his Australian friends said "no worries". They give us all a bad name. Hurrumph. Marianna x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 22:38:24 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:38:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: they let lisa go blind Message-ID: <1146732.1007505504889.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. if any large boys in the vicinity of nebraska are in an out-of-twee-character fighting mood, i have a boy. for you. to. attack. and. in my mind. it would be best. if he were. well. maimed, maybe? i have decided, finally, once and for all, to swear off anything with a penis. this may include dogs. and dolphins. it has been said that i am the cutest girl alive, and always having some sort of love crisis, and this is probably true. well. the latter part, at any rate. perhaps i will take some time now to provide an addition to my valuable, oft heralded pulling tips. to foray into What Not to Say When Dumping a Girl. first things first: if you have vague plans to get rid of a lady when you ask her over, DON'T smother her with kisses when she arrives. it's just not nice. that said, here is a nice list of DON'TS: Don't say anything to the effect of "lindsey, you are so amazing." "lindsey, you are beautiful." "lindsey, you are so good for me." Don't say anything to the effect of "i just don't know what to say to you." "you are so complicated....but but in a good way." "i don't know what i want/i don't know what you want/i don't know what happened in the last few days, really." Don't say "lindsey, you're not the perfect woman." (not that any of us thinks we are. this is just a bad context to throw out this sentence. shitty, really.) Don't say "well, part of it IS that you don't do that." "i just have different views than you, and i know we don't want to compromise our beliefs." and by all means -- FOR THE LOVE OF GOD -- Don't say "remember how you said he was searching for something in you that he needed to find within himself? MAYBE THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM." hmmm. this is a good start. Do say "i am an asshole." repeatedly. maybe try groveling a little bit. and the next day. if you see the girl you broke. don't be an asshole. it's just not nice. today i have drug out both the bright eyes and the 3..6..9 seconds of light. and deicided. that i am. beautiful. i am. that song. and i am. fucking tired. but. i did have another cigarette, and i can smell the rebellious smoke of the contraband cylinder clinging to my corduroy jacket like a faint, sticky incense. i really like the way my chest has tightened. like i am forever ready to burst. into what, though, is the fear. i told him he made me really happy and really scared at the same time. and he spread over me like the smoke. and now. i can't get him out. i am a novice smoker who inhales without coughing, and now my heart is paying the price. misslindseylou ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Tue Dec 4 21:53:47 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 21:53:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Enduring Love Message-ID: Enduring love? Well, yes, of course and no, not at all. �Enduring Love� is also a book (notice the single speech marks around those two words, that denotes that I�m referring to the book and not to the noun and adjective � I remember writing in an essay once that �Macbeth is a play�� my English teacher quite correctly scribbled green ink in the margin to the effect of �Macbeth is not a play, �Macbeth� is a play, Macbeth is a character in the play �Macbeth�� and I understood everything). �Enduring Love� (again the book), isn�t very good, Ian McEwan is to blame, being the author. Clever? Well yes and no, he can certainly turn on the style when he wants to, but is �the style� what we really want? Well yes and no, or to be more precise, no. What made the book annoying was the type of plot that, were it a TV movie, Channel Five would gladly screen it, mixed in with overly scientific, often ugly prose relating to the psychologies of each situation in the book. This mainly focussed on the largely dull, ageing (but to quote John Peel: �Show me someone who *isn�t* ageing��), male type and his on/off/sort of off/on/sort of on/sort of off/on/ambiguously ending relationship with a lady called Clarissa. McEwan's knowledge of science and psychology is enviable, precisely what makes the book annoying, for this is the style we don�t want him to turn on. I wont spoil it for you but if you only read one book about a religious stalker who falls in love with the hero of the story during a freak hot air ballooning incident this year *don�t* make it �Enduring Love�. I think it was Dorothy Parker (I hope so anyway, how awful it would be to have a quote falsely attributed to you), that said: �This isn�t a novel to be tossed aside gently, it should be thrown with great force.� I�m paraphrasing inevitably, but the sentiment is there. I was also going to write about people who start their newspapers at the back. But I realise I haven�t much else to say on the matter, and that such a phrase would be better kept back and used as part of a larger description of someone. For example: �He was standing right in front of me, deliberating whether or not to purchase a Feeder album or not, I cursed him inwardly because I wanted to look at Fall records, but he was in the way; I reasoned that he was probably someone who started his newspaper at the back - Feeder fans generally are. This made me feel better, and I went to look at something else for a bit � some Dylan CD�s I think it was, and by the time I got back to the �F� section he had moved on. I never found out whether he bought that Feeder album or not.� In a purely fictional situation like that the phrase works, gives something to the otherwise drab words and is the most interesting thing about the passage. I wonder though, how much of what I say is a quotation then, quoting myself. Storing up words inside you to recontextualise, or change for a different audience, perhaps to pass off as spontaneity seems callous, but I do it all the time. *cut* *change track* How our inflections and mannerisms change the shape of our thoughts in the space between our brain and our voice so that they come out as something quite different. Does this really matter? Are the perceptions people have of us not as true a reflection of our personalities as what we feel inside? Well, yes and no. It�s too big a question to answer with anything concrete really. It�s one of those novelty questions we ask to make ourselves feel better and less insignificant: �If I keep questioning then I shall find answers.� Except, comfortably, conveniently we wont. It�s like talking about cultural differences but only alluding to the differences in spelling between �colour� and �color� or the contrast between �elevator� and �lift�. Doesn�t get us anywhere, but it�s nice to think about it sometimes, and occasionally some truth might be got at, or some semblance of it at least. I�m rambling, inevitably; but isn�t the noble interaction between man and machine comforting! Words transformed from brain to keyboard to screen, it�s incredible really. Evolution in full flow, synapses triggering motor neurones (please correct my biology here, I'm almost inevitably wrong, I didn't deserve that 'B' at GCSE; I feel such a fraud), the whole of science and language and art and literature coming together. If I felt the need I could just tap at these keys with my stream of consciousness all night and feel a kind of plastic wholesomeness. When I was in primary school, and we had RM Nimbus 5�s (isn�t wallowing in nostalgia almost too easy to be fun?), and the very act of seeing what I had typed up on the screen, a screen which was tangible, but the words not, was fascinating. Intangible words on a tangible screen. Somewhere, in that mess of stubby prose there could be a metaphor for out times - something spurious about having the technology but not being able to control it. Enough doe-eyed wonder interspersed with melodramatic vitriol I think. I�ll write something proper soon, I�m building myself up to it by going through it in my head over and over, very therapeutic. Peace and love - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssonner at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 00:55:02 2001 From: ssonner at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 00:55:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ela e minha meninha Message-ID: Hello everyone. I'm not used to this de-lurking business. Up until yesterday I did not have the new single. Because I am lazy. Hey, isn't that pleather Isobel's wearing? Does this call for an exclamation of "phwoar"? I will now quote Ken Chu. >When I woke up I could hear Sturan going "Wig. in. up. du. uzzzz" (that's >the accent), Hearing Stuart's enunciation gave me a deja-entendu (if you will)...am I wrong in guessing Stuart's imitating someone's singing style on purpose? Upon reflection all I can come up with for a source for this freaky feeling is Donovan. Now I think of "E. Leck. Trick. Kah. Ba-na-na...Going. Ta. Be. A. Sud. Den. Crayze..." Help. I wish that Sarah Martin would help me study by singing all of my dry-as-chaff literary criticism readings for me.* Every time I read the word "hegemony" now my eyes automatically close. I think if I heard her sing them I would actually be able to retain more meaning from sentences like "This disavowal of the historical and the contingent was ipso facto a disavowal of any role being accorded to culture in liberal argument." snore. Some Brazilian concert-goers mentioned a cover version of the Mutantes' 'Minha Meninha'. Was the version of 'Baby' like Os Mutantes' too? Next time they ought to do 'Ave Lucifer', or maybe 'Bat Macumba' cause that way they could all join in on the chorus. harhar. A while ago, a starry Sarah asked, >Also, my favourite Tijuana Brass LP is surely Tamla Goes Tijuana. > >What's yours? I am compelled to answer her question, though I suspect it was rhetorical. I must mention Whipped Cream & Other Delights, the album whose green, lascivious cover art I have seen resting in almost every thrift store record bin I've ever dirtied my fingers flipping through. Which is very many. I finally had to pay ten cents for a copy in order for it to stop haunting me so. Who in the band will get to be the cover model for that one? PHWOAR. Yours, xoxSGS *And if this is not Sarah singing you can meet me by the Camera Obscura Wednesday night and talk some sense into my empty noggin. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Wed Dec 5 06:27:15 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:27:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: builders and movers and maybe even shakers Message-ID: Hi Sinister, It's a shame no one took Mandee up on the construction site, though she said she was tired of the idea just as she started. I had a similar idea last last summer for their recording studio, after reading a thoughtful article in which it was claimed that their best songs are "built around builds". But would we just stand around wringing our hands, or have we ended up justifying our own existence? (After reading Kieran's posts and the last one from PF, I'm beginning to think so.) Another way the conceit works is that if we're all lined up on a beam (save for Mr. Gillanders, of course), then our view of sinister is obscured(?) by those immediately to the right and to the left of us - real life friends and acquaintances, whatever. But if one of us dares to stand up, then she might see that that fellow in the distance is hardly recognizable. So it's amazing that this community exists at all, even if the cohesion is partially based upon an illusion. Or have we become more like one another? Bookends. Ola, "my name's alexei yuriy gagarin siege of stalingrad glorious 5-year-plan sputnik tractor dynamo moscow balowski. my father was a bit of a communist, you see" this quote is fantastic! Where is it from? (Yes, I'm hardly qualified to say anything about communism.) Frank, heartfelt posts about boyfriends and discos in provincial towns that close at midnight. (I hardly ever go out.) We *are* different! When you return - garrulous and sweet - in a flurry of A4, I wonder what inspires you to write. Once you were speeding west on a train from Krakow (how long has it been?!?!) and ended up in a London cafe. Landmarks to equal those in Remembrance Of Things Past. In the beginning of 'Place Names: The Place', Marcel writes, "It was not for the first time that I felt that those who love and those who enjoy are not always the same." Which got me thinking that he's a bit like Don Quixote - silly, impossibly idealistic, loveable. Yours, Youn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Wed Dec 5 07:57:08 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:57:08 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: STATE TRANSITIONS e phase shifs Message-ID: <200112050757.IAA15816@mailserver.unimi.it> ear all sinister hence this is my last day home, work etc etc.... and tomorrow hope to be ready for a new start in London, which sounds just great to me. Yesterday have listened to the mogway concert which was simply amazing but turned eveiboy there almost deaf, so nothingh really sounds propery at the moment... and an extra little new... mum plese have mercy of me, this can be a bit ou of list-rules.. but I will have the chance to perform a couple of gigs in london, with a band, called "killing the killer", the 7th and 9th, december and be very glad to meet some sinister there, if any of you is in the mood for that. the 7th will be at upstrairs at the garage, supporting OWLS and ecoline, and the 9th at the verge with pinback and jet johnson... I am the guy who pretend to play the guitar.... see you soon yours stefano ::-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano (at present) | (from December, The 1st) Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante | School of Biological Science Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi | Queen Mary College Università degli Studi di Milano | University of London Via Celoria 26 | Mile End Road 20133 Milano | London E1 4NS Italia/Italy | U.K. Stefano.santabarbara at unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 10:06:00 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 02:06:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Take Chuey with his bow and arrow, Ken's a mastermind... Message-ID: <20011205100600.67982.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister! Like everyone predicted, Miss Fruitloop can't keep up her fevered pace of derivative posts. That's ok, I knew it would happen, too. It's a luxury to be lazy. 163 in my inbox, but at least I've read them all... You're all fantastic! I woke up at a quarter past nine. It was dark. I couldn't tell if it was still tonight, or if it was tomorrow and just dark and raining outside. I didn't remember going to sleep. I panicked, because if it was in fact tomorrow, I should have been leaving the house to get to work at that very moment. But it was tonight. And then I was happy because I had napped for over an hour. That can be really disorienting, but I kind of like that feeling. I can feel the nuances of people slithering under my skin lately. It's an odd sensation but it sort of feels good, but sort of dirty at the same time. I have walked through a threshold into the world where two adorable and enchanting creatures are at odds. Where obsession turns away from past lovers and to the unknown possibility of the *newer*better*faster*. Where forgiveness wraps around me like a wristwatch, reminding me it's time. In this place, I dance in the embrace of the most beautiful boy who knows how to lead like swimming. But we can't breathe underwater and I wonder how long we'll go before we remember this. In this world I take solace in a song written to me by someone I've never met. I am in awe of his ability and his sensitivity and I hope that I am able to take care of him when his feet are cold like mine are right now because my house is drafty. This place is where everything effecting me dwells. My mind wanders... The old lady cat, Agnes, has a cold. She is sitting on my bed sneezing and her poor little kitty eyes are watering. I wish I could give her kitty cold medicine. I hope she doesn't get pneumonia and die. She is going to be sixteen in a couple of months. She's as old as some of you on this list! Ben Apps is in for it when he arrives in my town in 26 days. I'll be spreading my Christmas cheer for him and knocking away his humbug! So brace yourself, Ben! Like everything around here, Christmas time and my family is quite a spectacle! My weekends are in danger of being taken over by #sinister! I was chatting quite a bit this past weekend, in hopes of running into the aforementioned Bunny Apps, which didn't happen. I did blush when I would check back in, and several of you let me know that I missed him. I was also waiting patiently for miss Elise J. Spry, miss Kirsten M. Kenyon and Jimmy G. the heartthrob from the 1950's. I never got to chat with them, either! But, I did get to hang with the legendary Kenneth PY Chu, Stacey Dahling, Andreea, Adorable Danny Farrell, Miss Lindsey Lou, Amy "Rachel" Applejacks, The Cat's PJs, Rachel Sunnyside Up and the alluring Richard J. Gillanders, just to name a few. Miss Lindsey wrote about her life story being "Beautiful" and you all know how I feel about that one. I also identify very much with the song, but I paralleled my reliance on anti-depressants to the lyrics, where Lindsey compares her experiences with boys to it. I loved your post, Lindsey! I'm with you sister! THE PINEFOX wrote a grate one about George Harrison: "He had his own trademarks (in chords and melodies), which I've wished before that I could identify; and almost everything he wrote was musically subtle. One reason, perhaps, why it also feels frail - weak, in need of protection, or of a hug." I thought what you wrote was the most beautiful thing I've read about George Harrison in these days since his passing. I'd also like to add, just to bring this down to the gutter, that George Harrison was hot. H-O-T. Raarrr! But I did shed a tear when he died... As per Kenneth PY Chu's request, I will now address Ken in a public forum*: Ken, you are my little fortune cookie. I want to break you open and tear out your clever words and then eat your crunchy sweet outside covering. When I see your posts in my inbox, my heart leaps with anticipation because I know it will be brilliant or witty or just downright entertaining. You are also H-O-T like Harrison, and talented, too! I live for the day when you will cross this vast ocean and throw me to the ground and ravage me. Just don't mess up my red bowl (haircut). *shhh, don't tell Ben. Dahling Stacey rocks my world! And the other night I promised her a poem: On this slippery slope the only one who laughs last is the one without hope And I laugh as I slide for I take you down with me and you take it in stride. As to not upset Andrew Churchman, I shall add some B&S content (since I have nothing to say about Karate). I'd like to mention that Christmas is coming and I still don't have IWUTU (eyewooty). It's one of those items that I'm hoping to get. I don't know if you know this or not, but I'm quite a fan of Belle & Sebastian... You know what, when I was on the sinister list a few years ago, it was when twattybus first came out, and I always found it so amusing that many people made the album titles into silly sounding acronyms. I am *so* glad to see a resurgence of this on the list now: Big Stu wrote: "I was wearing my TWATTYBUS T-Shirt yesterday, and I had 2 people comment on it." Big Stu also wrote: "I'm disappointed that they changed the name of the new single. IWUTU is a very dull acronym; The Season Has Arrived would make THESHAG. Almost." And Carsmile Steve wrote: "am i the only person not to have heard EYEWOOTY?" Mark Hester wrote: "And I haven't heard "eyewooty" either, incidentally." Incidentally, I have yet to hear it as well. Desmond Torpey wrote: "i seem to recall some poll last year that concluded '69 love songs' was the favourite sinister album of 2000 apart from FISHYCLAP...is the same thing being done this year?" Yeah, is there going to be a poll this year, too? Another thing I remember from Sinister a few years back was that someone said : "'Rollercoaster Ride' too short? Not anymore!" and they talked about playing the record on slow speed! I'm still laughing about it now. I think of that everytime I listen to TWATTYBUS! Everyone seemed to enjoy our B&S on Later with Droolz Holland, and that is fantastic. I've almost accepted the fact that I will never see it. *sniff* Congratulations to Lawrence Mikkelsen who just got married! YAY! I want to see pictures! I adore Chris Pez. Just thought I'd mention that! Also, Ryan, thanks for your attention lately, I know you're super busy! Welcome to Bri, Max, The Cat's PJs, and Maja!!! And anyone I might have missed! Also a big hello to those who made an apperance recently, such as Louise, Mark the Idlebloke, Kerry, Chris Butler and David White! Well, I dunno kitties, I hope you enjoyed reading this! I think it will do. Shout outs and hugs to the usual suspects (of course that includes you, Cutie pie Danny) Extra kisses for that sweetie crush o' mine, Ben! !Viva Rachels! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 13:45:17 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:45:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: leaving Message-ID: yes, i'm leaving sinister now. just wanted to say goodbye i guess. good lyck with the christmasexchange, the mixed tapes and the translationgame and everything else. much love, rachel oj _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 14:50:53 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:50:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Storytelling Message-ID: I saw Storytelling last night. Would you like to hear about it? I'm not much of a film reviewer, so don't pay too much attention to my opinions. Go see it yourself. For those of you who don�t know yet, Storytelling is actually two films called Fiction and Non-Fiction, which are directed by Todd Solondz, and are only related by their common theme of being about storytellers and storytelling. A large part of the film is supposed to have been cut, exorcised by the studio for being a little too shocking, and amongst the dead celluloid must have been a few Belle and Sebastian songs, because only four are left in the final cut. The film wasn't amazing but I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. The first was a neater, better reasoned film than the second, but suffered from the short film's curse of being a film with a punchline. The second was more muddled and tried to make similar points to the first but in a more ungainly way. It does contain a few very funny parts, though, especially those involving Scooby or his little evil brother who always says exactly what he shouldn't. The Belle and Sebastian songs were in the second film too, and to me (I might be a little biased of course) sounded better than the film. So it's a shame the songs and the film are so closely linked. The songs are; The State I Am In I Don't Want To Play Football Scooby driver Storytelling They all sounded good - I liked Scooby Driver a lot. The lyrics and the titles sound like they're closely related to the film. This means it could be difficult to put those songs (or the cut ones) on another album than the Storytelling one. That's not such a bad thing, but it might be hard to listen to these songs without thinking of the film, and in my opinion Murdoch's a far better storyteller than Solondz anyway, so I'd rather hear his version of a story than watch anyone else's. It sounds like Stuart's a little annoyed with Solondz about the way their songs were treated too. But now the film's been made it's difficult to escape this. I hope the songs work as well by themselves and some good songs aren't blurred by an average film. That's all. Very factual today. More of the old nonsense next time I'm sure. Hey, Robs and Robyns - do we have a mix tape team or not? Robin (with an i) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 19:26:30 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:26:30 EST Subject: Sinister: The day will come soon when I look down the drain Message-ID: <49.150887ce.293fcee6@aol.com> Hello sinsiter, I think I've become a bit of a lurk, I haven't written in ages, so I am now. Life has been rather lovely in all the same way as usual. I talked to my ex-boyfriend for the first time since this summer, which was nice. I'm seeing him this weekend with a bunch of other friends. Sunday starts Hannukah, for which I will be getting a subscription to Magnet Magazine and various art supplies, as I requested. I want to buy all my friends those lovely chocolate eggs that have toys inside, maybe something else too. I'm going to have latkas sunday. this all makes me happy. I might as well put in my 27 and a half cents about IWUTU: I really like the single, but it would be very difficult for me to not like something belle and sebastian did. I'm bias. Maybe if they went really punk or electronic I wouldn't like it, and I'd be really sad, but I like this new, happy sound that IWUTU and Jonathan David both have. My favorite song is I love My Car, currently one of my favorite songs out of anything, but that is always changing. It makes me feel so completely content, complete and happy. The two different instrumental movements or sorts are so fantastic, they calm me down and make me smile, and they complement eachother well, I think. Someone recently put down the phrase "in other news" which I really like. I think its a nice transition phrase. Max (who first posted a few days ago! yay him!) and I had a bit of an argument as to the meaning of Twee yesterday. Our conclusion was that neither of us knew. I've asked before, but could someone please give me a good definition?! Thats all the dribble I can come up with. I love you all, Rachel Grapenut +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Dec 5 20:27:58 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:27:58 Subject: Sinister: Rachel oj - THE FRAUD Message-ID: <202444895@spray.se> Hi sinister, Just wanted to tell you lot who has been e-mailing, off or on-list to Rachel oj, that there actually isn´t a Rachel oj. It was my, now ex-friend, Anna, who was trying to squeeze out everything about what i thought about her, and the daft bastard tried to do it here. i know that some of you have been e-mailing wiht her, but these fact are true: Rachel Smith´s real name is Anna. She is not 17, she´s 15. and sadly enough, a classmate of mine. she never had that boyfriend Hans, there was never that other girl Monica, there was actually no relationship at all, since she was lying. I was very chocked when a friend told me that Anna = Rachel. Since I thought we actually had stuff in common, we hadn´t. It was just Anna saying the things she knew I liked or was interested in. This was by far the greatest lie that Anna had tried to pull. Luckily enough, she failed. I´ve been feeling very bad inside all day, knowing that she fooled me and lied to me for quite some time. a lot more time than reasonable if you ever want to becom friends again. which i don´t. i don´t want to be mortal enemies or something, i just want her to let me be alone. because i do not want to speak one more word to that girl. i thought more about her, but apparently i was wrong. so there you are, dear sinisters. rachel oj is leaving because we caught her redhanded trying to be her. pathetic. i´ve also lost much trust for people on the internet today, worrying about if she´s been lying to me about being someone else as well. it wouldn´t really surprise me, i mean, she being the person she is. i´ve been worrying about My Corduroy Kitten Tom, Joe Vester, not Ken Chu though, he´s too much of a legend, and lots of other people actually not being themselves, but Anna. I can just hope that no-one will get as hurt as I did, or that you feel that you can´t trust people anymore. I feel that way, but then, she was a friend of mine for eight years, but today it has come to an end. and don´t feel sorry for the little twit, she chose this all by herself, and let me tell you that it´s not the first time she´s doing this. i think she needs a therapist. love and stars to all of you, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Dec 5 20:29:53 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:29:53 Subject: Sinister: Rachel oj - THE FRAUD Message-ID: <202445913@spray.se> Hi sinister, Just wanted to tell you lot who has been e-mailing, off or on-list to Rachel oj, that there actually isn´t a Rachel oj. It was my, now ex-friend, Anna, who was trying to squeeze out everything about what i thought about her, and the daft bastard tried to do it here. i know that some of you have been e-mailing wiht her, but these fact are true: Rachel Smith´s real name is Anna. She is not 17, she´s 15. and sadly enough, a classmate of mine. she never had that boyfriend Hans, there was never that other girl Monica, there was actually no relationship at all, since she was lying. I was very chocked when a friend told me that Anna = Rachel. Since I thought we actually had stuff in common, we hadn´t. It was just Anna saying the things she knew I liked or was interested in. This was by far the greatest lie that Anna had tried to pull. Luckily enough, she failed. I´ve been feeling very bad inside all day, knowing that she fooled me and lied to me for quite some time. a lot more time than reasonable if you ever want to becom friends again. which i don´t. i don´t want to be mortal enemies or something, i just want her to let me be alone. because i do not want to speak one more word to that girl. i thought more about her, but apparently i was wrong. so there you are, dear sinisters. rachel oj is leaving because we caught her redhanded trying to be her. pathetic. i´ve also lost much trust for people on the internet today, worrying about if she´s been lying to me about being someone else as well. it wouldn´t really surprise me, i mean, she being the person she is. i´ve been worrying about My Corduroy Kitten Tom, Joe Vester, not Ken Chu though, he´s too much of a legend, and lots of other people actually not being themselves, but Anna. I can just hope that no-one will get as hurt as I did, or that you feel that you can´t trust people anymore. I feel that way, but then, she was a friend of mine for eight years, but today it has come to an end. and don´t feel sorry for the little twit, she chose this all by herself, and let me tell you that it´s not the first time she´s doing this. i think she needs a therapist. love and stars to all of you, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 20:24:24 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:24:24 EST Subject: Sinister: Your Dolly Mixtures will get you anywhere, Sweety! Message-ID: <105.d7681e4.293fdc78@aol.com> Hey there you. lot. I'm in a perfect state of employed again/new record/lots of other stuff I can't tell you, ha ha ha! Who wrote they like "Eighties Fan"? You're on to something good here you know, once you put it on you'll never switch it off. ever. I've been meaning to for ages, and today I spent my last few pennies on Goldfrapp's Felt Mountain. It was a real mind-over-matter thing cos I had just enough money to buy that album and not alot else, I had to kind of walk straight into the shop, over to the desired purchase and quickly pay and leave so as I wouldn't get tempted to buy any other music. I reckon the lad who works there now thinks I'm quite rude cos in the rush I like ignored his "hello James" and headed straight for the door, The music is just so wonderfulbrill !! so I think all of you should also buy it. Oh and apparently this is common knowledge but do you know that the music on the One 2 One ad is part of "lovely head", I didn't realise. Yesterday was not one of my most productive days. Being between jobs is always a good time to have some fun, I did this! a bit to much and that had landed me in the less entertaining world of skint. The turning point came at about half six last night when I found myself doing a "Beauty Products" wordsearch. I'd only found "Imac leg wax" but understood there to be 24 other "Household names that are essential to the modern women's well-being" Then from within the random letters "Loreal Recital" appeared to me. Fuck! managed to totally disturb myself by the ammount of "Women's Products" I knew. (and understood the use of) This, plus only having the funds to live till next Wednesday weighed heavy on my mind, mmmmmm perhaps it was time to return to the world of work? In a BMW Mini advert stylee..... James goes job hunting, Succeeds, the end (for now). This is good news as I can now afford to pay for....... The XJS I bought last Saturday, The Triumph I'll collect in January, All the people I ow money*, The trip to Poland to collect the Triumph and visit one of the Polska Sinister Massive, The presents I think my family are expecting for Christmas, and New years eve *other parts of my list are more attainable .............................................................................. ................................. Rachel Grapenut: TWEE?, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS? (if I tell you what Twee is then you have to tell me what a Grapenut is like, that's like a fruit and a nut put together, is it a real food? or is a nut a kind of fruit anyway?) I've said it before but I'm everso gratefull if you read my posts so... If you've read this FAR then you're a Milkybar ChocoSTAR. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinister at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 20:34:11 2001 From: sinister at xxx.com (John Jennings) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:34:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Enduring Sinister Message-ID: <3C0E84C3.1020805@london.com> oh look, a crafty and clever reference to Kieran's post... which i didn't understand at all i have to admit... roight anyway hello, i'm back... or rather my computer is back from the pooter doctor where it has been for the past few weeks, getting all sorted with lots of fast components that i don't really understand... and now i've got it back and its exactly the same... grr... it means that i have some catching up to do with the whole sinister thing.... the new single first. i bought it on the day or release as ever. i had to walk into town... in the cold and rain... with my viola (all will become clear)... and then i went into the nice little record shop (those who know rockaboom will know it only vaguely fits into the 'nice' category... actually it only vaguely fits into the 'record shop' category)... and it took me ages to find... and when i did find it i put it in my cd player gubbins and did some frowning to the rot-your-teeth sweetness of 'waking...' as I walked back out of town again, to the rehearsal rooms where my lovely band were rehearsing (hence the viola)... t'was a panic rehearsal after it was discovered we were supposed to have a gig on the 14th (of january admittedly, but if you heard us you'd understand the panic)... so everyone keep the 14th free... i think its at the musician... or something... and the single has yet to grow on me... have people noticed how b&s songs are getting less honest and personal now btw?... since modern rock song methinks... they're not really about struan or his friends anymore... just the old cliches of pop music... which is a little depressing... but i'm not going to get into the old 'old vs new' argument again... i like marx and engels a lot... and i liked carriage clock... so i'll change the subject quickly..... "The songs are; The State I Am In I Don't Want To Play Football Scooby driver Storytelling They all sounded good" said robin. thats very exciting. any ideas when this is out? also, when is 'sexual athlete' going to get released? thats the best thing they've done for ages methinks... crikey there is a lot of pseudo-content in this post, this can't be healthy.... last b&s related thing now... i've been told to suggest to sinister that b&s get steve albini to produce their next album... as a joke... but i think t'would be interesting... wouldn't it?... what do we think neil? dum de dum i was in london on monday, and i like london because i always spot people with b&s badges on the tube.. but i didn't on monday alack.... but i went to hamleys and spent lots of time with the parents who have more money than sense playing with sinister (in a bad way) toys... and then i almost missed my train back and had to lots of running around on the underground (using the left side of the escalator is more dangerous than it looks... those business people are pros) and i only got on the train 2 minutes before it left.... that was very exciting... i'm very annoyed because there was definately something productive i was going to say in this post... but i've forgotten it.... which is very annoying... but anyway.... if you've read this FAR you obviously think you're reading one of JAMES' POSTS hoho. JP.. -- www.ilonline.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Max421 at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 22:17:18 2001 From: Max421 at xxx.com (Max421 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:17:18 EST Subject: Sinister: Can You Believe With Us? Message-ID: Hello Again!Its been several days since my last post, and not much new in my life. Today was rather interesting, however. This morning, I sat next to a girl on the schoolbus who insisted that she could do a perfect impression of Alanis Morisette. Needless to say, by the time we got to school, every ninth grade girl who though that she had a good voice was singing "jagged little pill". Quite Obviously, I'm scarred for life. When I got off the bus, I followed brownie into the cafteria. I was so busy staring at him, that I almost knocked over a bite size english lady with my napsack. When we got there, we made ackward little acknowledgments of each other at the water machine. The day was pretty much uneventful, except for lunch with Amanda, Stephanie/lilly, Vera, Lizz, Emily, and Morgan. Later, I got yelled at by an obnoxious girl named leah, who accused me ofbeing such a conformist, because I didn't sit with her, and another girl who I just can't tolerate. Later, on the bus agai! n, I stretched out on an entire row because I couldn't deal with anyone next to me. Brownie sat down behind me and put his hands over into my space, kind of just leaving them there, near my head. I guess he may have been trying to flirt with me ( I know I've used that tactic) but as usual, it didn't go anywhere. Afterwards, I got off the bus with rachel and bought a tea press. I'm on my third cup. Hopefully, If I play myself enough b&s tonight, I'll find someway to stop procrastinating and study for my french vocab test. Au Revoir, Max +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Wed Dec 5 23:57:30 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:57:30 EST Subject: Sinister: Rachel oj - THE FRAUD Message-ID: <8a.1070bb7d.29400e6b@aol.com> I know I posted already today, but Astrid's post sort of struck me, and I just had to say something. I'm really sad that rachel OJ is not herself. I liked her. I guess being a rachel is the best way to blend in to sinister, aye? I don't totally understand why she did what she did, but I don't understand lots of things.. I think its terribly sad that astrid and anna seem to have lost eachother as friends. I don't understand how someone can make the decision to not want to talk to someone and not to try to work things out. Maybe I'm just a weak person, but even after people do really awful things to me, I still want to forgive them. I somehow believe that they are capable of redeeming themselves. I do not know the situation, but I would advise astrid to try to work things out with anna if anna shows any desire to, even if you feel you have been completely betrayed. Be charatable and give her the chance to still have you as her friend. People make mistakes sometimes, really big, bad ones even. I know I've done some really really terrible things to people I love more than anything, been awful to them for days or weeks, completely without realizing what I was doing. If anna, or anyone, was once a good enough person to be your friend, chances are they are a good enough person to realize the! ir mistakes. Maybe this advice does not apply to astrid's case, but it is one of the things that bothers me most about the world. People are not willing enough to allow others to make mistakes, to allow the people who hurt them to be part of the healing process. People do not trust that others are good people. The standards for others are too high. And those who do bad things are not willing enough to be forgiven, to admit they were wrong, to beg even. We have to love eachother for our good qualities, and tolerate eachothers lesser moments, the days and weeks where we are too sensitive or too mean or too depressed to be our normal selves. Sometimes its necissary to let someone mistreat you, to cry quietly in the corner and then forgive them. Have faith that the people you once thought worthy of loving are forever worthy of your love. "I've one thing to tell you before I die, just wanted to tell you you were right." I love you all, Rachel Grapenut +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 03:28:28 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:28:28 -0600 Subject: Sinister: London (is) calling Message-ID: Howdy folks! I'm a bit behind reading your (berserker) barrage of posts. However, I'm going to say "fuck it (fuck it with knives)" and post anyway! Goddamn right! It's not that anything terribly interesting is going on. I'm saddened by what seems to be Rachel OJ's departure. Although I'm behind, so maybe i'm wrong. People buy the strangest things. I was in the local record shop as usual today, and this kid wearing a white "confederate cotton company" shirt, kakhis (from what i assume is abercrombie and fitch), a torn up white University of Alabama hat, and sandals. This is the typical attire for the preppy jerk-offs of my community. I expected him to buy slipknot or phish or (God forbid) Widespread Panic. He bought a live Velvet Underground album. The moral of the story? Don't ever eat anything at all from Hardee's. Okay, what was the point of that insanely worthless story? to cover up downright list abuse of course. Wee-doggy! Anyway, I'm thinking about popping into london next wednesday (the 12th) and i'm leaving ont he 22nd. I was wondering if anyone knows of any good gigs in the greater london area. Pollstar hasn't yielded much. Or perhaps there is a band that totally rocks that I don't know about. Anyway, have a lovely evening. Keep on rockin. Shouldn't be too difficult, what with all the rocks in your heads and all. -matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 06:05:04 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:05:04 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 'i just don't understand why you can't do anything the easy way...' Message-ID: <75C0DF3CC4CF4F54AA350C0B81E24535@chinacat81.wildmail.com> my mom's beloved uncle bert passed away two nights ago. he was a sweet, quiet man who never married, and who devoted many of his years to the care of his parents. i remember going to his house when i was little. from what i can recall, he lived on cigarettes and dry- roasted peanuts. and there was a toy chest with 'don't break the ice' and a music box that played 'raindrops keep fallin on my head.' there are several photographs of a tiny blonde girl in a pink dress and a little lacy white apron the ladies at st. mary's catholic church used to wear to serve coffee after mass. i never really figured out why uncle bert had that apron, but i used to wear it and entertain anyone who would pay attention, doing awkward ballets to that song from the music box. there was a funeral when i was five years old, and my great- grandma was getting pretty senile. i remember her sitting at the head of the dinner table, thoughtfully chewing on a ham sandwich and letting her gaze drift around the table. pausing suddenly on uncle bert, she stopped chewing for a moment and nearly shouted, "heavens to betsy, that man has the most remarkably large ears i've ever seen!" nobody knew what to do. finally someone said "aw, look at kirsten," and suddenly everyone seemed to find unspeakable amusement in the fact that i had an olive on each of my fingers, and i made a grand production of eating them one by one. the whole family roared with laughter and i thought i must be quite the little comedienne. i'm certainly in no hurry to grow old, but i do think sometimes that it will be sort of fun, being able to say anything that crosses my mind. with no discretion. old people can get away with things like cutting in line at the cinema. they get a discount, too. and i've never stolen anything in my life, but it's crossed my mind that when i'm a scrawny old lady in a big silly hat, it might be a good time to go into walgreens and stuff my huge old-lady handbag with...condoms or something. if i didn't get caught, i would go home and blow them up like balloons and throw myself a party. or fill them with water and hurl them at passers-by. or something. and if i did get caught...well, i suppose i would just act very confused, and i probably wouldn't get in any trouble at all. because i'd be old. and then i would giggle the whole way home because the kids who worked at walgreens would be able to go home and tell their friends that they caught this crazy old lady trying to steal six boxes of trojans. anyway...oh yes. i had a visit from miss elise and jimmy gilmer on sunday. we sat in the teahouse and jim told funny stories and elise had on sexy boots and looked just as lovely as the last time i saw her, so it seems she must always look that way. and we walked along the lake and i pointed out important landmarks, like the place where i once stepped in elephant droppings. and we went into a few shops and giggled at things, and sat on the edge of a dried-up fountain and laughed at what have to be the gaudiest holiday decorations the world has ever seen. no sex shops this time, but it was fun anyway. well, i hope they had fun. i'm not exactly the hostess with the mostest. once again, anyway. i've just booked a plane ticket...about half an hour ago, now. in twenty-one days, i will be..in glasgow. lovely. i think it will be a really good time....hehee (i am trying to contain my excitement so as not to make a huge idiot of myself.) okay, but just because i can't help it....here are a bunch of exciting exclamation points !!!!!!!!!!! okay, that's more than enough. i've just diagnosed myself with anemia. i need flinstones vitamins. bye bye love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 12:35:31 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:35:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't prisoners have a life? (read me first) Message-ID: The boy woke up at 8:30am, and realised that something wasn't quite right. His left eye was jammed and his right eye was his left eye. Maybe he shouldn't have stayed up to play Scrabble over the Internet until 5 in the morning, but it was worth it, he thought, since he won 3 times in a row. So this morning he made himself a trophy, and decided to treat himself today as a prize for being so literally blinding. So he momentarily found his vision and picked up his phone, and dialled what he vaguely believed to be his work's phone number, sure enough the voice on the other end said the company's name. "I don't think I can come in today I'm feeling a bit ill", he said, and without a visa or mastercard transection he just bought himself a day off, all for only the same as a day's wages. The boy then wondered why sitting at home doing nothing felt so much better than sitting in his office doing nothing. He came to the conclusion that he wouldn't be able to dance about singing out loud at work - being slightly mental is expensive, he supposed, unless he was that woman who sang out loud in the office anyway. He treated himself to a nice lunch - a lovely lovely bowl of noodles - then he wondered: is a treat still a treat if you have it every single day? Then he started eating and knew the answer straight away: damn straight. The boy carried on wondering, "How else can I treat myself?" he wondered, he didn't know. So he went to his local shop to see what he can find, the boy likes his local shop, the locality of it sold it to him. He stepped inside his local shop without much local motive, his train of thoughts had derailed it seemed. He decided that he didn't need any bacons for today, for he had already eaten, nor did he need the "Men's Health" magazine, for he was supposed to be sick today, afterall. His eyes were caught eventually at a pack of 10 colouring pens, "I can do with some colouring pens I think", he thought, "besides, tomorrow I can tell my boss I were seeing colours". He decided he was going to be an artist for the day, so, first of all he made a squiggle which he declared to be a symbol for himself. Then he started drawing, but nothing looked very good at all - as he wanted to use up all 10 colours all at once but there just weren't any pictures that had both the colour sky blue and the colour puke pink. So he spent the rest of his day copying the London Underground map as a cover for a tape that he'd made for his friend. Then the time came for the boy to really treat himself, as one of his favourite bands Camera Obscura were going to play live that night in London, together with another band Tompaulin who would soon later become another one of his favourite bands, and a guy named Chris Leonard, who would have been one of his favourite bands, if he was a band. The boy further wondered whether he should take a taxi to the train station, instead of driving so he can treat himself further with a few beverages, as he hadn't had many beverages for many ages, he picked up his phone again, this time without looking, pressed the same digit six times in a row, and rightly enough that familiar, disgruntled voice of the taxi operator appeared, and the boy ordered a taxi, which took him to the train station and in turn the train took him to where the London Underground resided - a place called London. He skillfully skipped, skimmed and skirmished through the skipful of skittles that were swamping the underground station, and masterfully jumped onto the train with inch perfection - it was ironic that he had indeed so dexterously jumped onto the wrong train. He was surrounded by gorgeous London girls, but they weren't going to treat him tonight, nor could they help him get off - he had to wait until the next stop. Eventually, he arrived at the Liverpool Street stop, which always brought a smile and a sigh to the boy's face. As for a brief few months in the past he had had a brief taste of what was not to come, when he had a more than adequately paid job, rubbing shoulders with buzzing businessmen and more memorably with buzzing businesswomen, "Well that was a fun three months", he thought to himself, "but tonight is going to be Funner". After a quick visit to a shop run by an ex-army officer who now cooks Chicken for a living, the boy now had the right mindset as well as the right stomach upset for party... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 12:37:33 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:37:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm shutting up to us (now read me.. if you like) Message-ID: .. The boy walked through the entrance door, he was accosted by a man who made a gesture at him, which seemed to suggest "Can I help you". So, eloquently, the boy asked the question "can.. I, pay.. some money.. to, er, get in please", and luckily the answer was yes, and so the boy paid some money and got in. To his surprise he was immediately greeted by a friend, the pair of them complimented on each other's immaculate hair styles, and their respective plans on the next direction for their locks, and decided that warmth was the key. And many a chats and chitters later Chirs Leonard was on, who did some amazing things with a guitar that the boy's eyes weren't quick enough to see, but he could hear and it sounded quite heavenly. Then it was the turn of Tompaulin, who started gently with a folk song, before turning up the rock style by smashing a guitar in half, then promptly captured the audience for half an hour with their music. The boy decided he was going to get one of these funny instruments that they had that was both a keyboard and a recorder, but the last time he went to his music shop asking for a "funny instrument" he got something he didn't quite bargain for. The boy's friend then spotted Stuart Murdoch lurking at the back inside this cave, and she pointed it out to the boy. One minute later, the shock was over and the boy exclaimed "arrgh I just saw Stuart Murdoch". But thankfully he didn't ejaculate too loudly. Another friend of the boy took two pieces of paper, and moments later the boy was handed a piece of paper that read, "To Ken, Stkdjlk Mukdjk" which meant a lot to him. Then, the boy was hit by the thought that he had just seen a brilliant gig, and there was still another one to come, and he was very happy. Just as he was smiling the next gig was on, and how he smiled, after a cover of "Brown Eyed Girl" by van morrison, the band played some fabulous tunes. During the gig, the boy visited the toilet to offer the sewer rats a pint of beer, and just as he was almost finished, a man started telling him of a revelation.. "This just confirms it", he said, "That folk music is not my scene". He left the toilet with the last words of "Give me a distortion pedal and electric guitar any day" before the boy could tell him what he thought about his maw. He came back upstairs, and one of his favourite songs by the band was on, and a favourite song of a couple of other persons too, as they sang along to quite some jest, which is the moment when a man (who had rather nice forearms) turned round and shouted, "SHUT UP!" which caused a bit of a shock. The gig then finished on a high note, after which the boy went singing and dancing and dancing and singing whilst the DJ played some tunes on 45. The boy went to ask for a non-terrorvision tune, and it got played. After more dancing and making letters with his arms and imitating Isobel's TOTP dance during Legal Man and a few more tunes, the party ends and everyone got home. The boy and his fellow companion were then shepharded back to the Tube stop by Sgt. SGS, before getting on, indeed, the wrong tubes once again but eventaully got home. That was it. Ken P.S.: Oh, also, the next day the boy got really bored at work and wrote a fair bit about his day the day before. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 13:41:14 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com (Daplyn Elizabeth) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:41:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona Message-ID: <8CE702C232760243B95B5ADBE849E3474BB9DE@CWMBSMAIL01.eu.thmulti.com> ...and I'm quite sure I'm in the wrong song. What I want for Christmas, apart from Elijah Wood (is is freaky to fancy a Hobbit?) is a Tigermilking in that there London Village, the which I'm sure Il Biondino Mark is working on if he knows what's good for him. New Year will do, but I feel the need to dance like a loon, and South Wales is not the place for it, unless the dancefloor is made of coal. My Powerpuff Girls advent calendar has been broached, the goose is apparently getting fat, and the Festive 50 is upon us again. However, it may well be a bit too chirpy for those of us who are perpetually lovelorn ie. seemingly most of the contributing list, soppy buggers that you (we) are. Lurkers may all be happily married and wildly in love, but I somehow doubt it. Anyway, even lucky sods like Mr Apps and Ms Fruitloop must have somber moments, when contemplating the vagaries of the universe simply cannot be done to the accompaniment of pretty music about happy things. So, then, howsabout letting me know your top three Moping About Relationships albums? A Misery Loves Company (not the musical. Or the piece by Philip Glass, for that matter) chart may be compiled if I can be bothered. For starters, here's my current run-down: 3. Reading, Writing and Arithmetic - The Sundays: "I never should have said/ that the books that you read/ were all I loved you for" is exactly the kind of thing I find myself regretting. Vitriol is satisfying in the coolth of the moment. But. 2. Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot - Sparklehorse: "I want my records back/ and that motorcycle gas-tank I spraypainted black". And because I got my dad to buy it for my birthday a couple of years ago and had to dictate the title letter by letter several times. 1. The Good Will Out - Embrace: Ooh, I can just hear the stones, pointy sticks and other missiles coming my way. If you disregard the attempts to rock out shouty-style, it makes half a gorgeously gloomy album. I stand by what I've said previously about French horns. And just because. Please reply chez moi, as littering lists with lists is neither big nor clever. Anyway, aren't most pop songs (most artworks, full stop?) either about getting it on or whinging about not getting off? Even the standard 'hello trees, hello sky, you're lovely' (copyright The Field Mice) song is a c/overt variation on "I wandered lonely as a cloud That floats on high o'er hill and vale; I saw some nice flowers and pleasant shrubs And thought if I wrote a poem about them I'd get a snog. Was I right?" Faced with a painful choice between devoting your precious time to artistic or romantic endeavour? Why not combine the two? I'm just saying, see. Working for the joy of giving? No thanks. But the company I'm temping for produces CDs for Beggar's Banquet (and Mute, Wiija, Setanta, blah blah, blah blah), which means that records by Hefner, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, The Fall, Avalanches, Badly Drawn Boy etc. are made here IN THIS VERY BUILDING. Also Fields of the Nephilim. Cor. Exciting, eh? Oh, what idleness and a customer database can engender. * * * When cars on a dark motorway start weaving and dancing in time to the music on the stereo, you've either had a bit too much to drink or are experiencing a moment of great serendipity. Liz D :x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 15:51:41 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:51:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "thats a hippy you just killed! you just killed a hippy!" Message-ID: <20011206155141.73156.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinisters: a mr. YOUN said: Ola, "my name's alexei yuriy gagarin siege of stalingrad glorious 5-year-plan sputnik tractor dynamo moscow balowski. my father was a bit of a communist, you see" this quote is fantastic! Where is it from? oh! oh! oh! i know! i know! it's from The Young Ones. i think. until later......caleb ben ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Dec 6 17:08:55 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:08:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Mark & Lard Message-ID: <007e01c17e78$b0d048e0$e784fc3e@neil> I would just like to say that if anybody is voting for "Jonathan David" as Single of the Year" on Mark & Lards show, (www.bbc.co.uk/radio1) please don't vote lots of times, as we have a reputation for that kind of thing. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 19:51:14 2001 From: the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com (The Cat's Pajamas) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 19:51:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I can't remember ever feeling this happy. I have a terrible memory, though... Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Okay, first off...JOY-DIVINITY-RAPTURE...the new B+S single finally found it's way to central Illinois. Judging from how long it took, the pony express probably had to bring it here after the cd was hand carved by arthritic snails (do snails have hands? nevermind, moving on) All in all, I really like it so far. Not a huge departure from their previous work, which is good. They seem to be moving along musically enough to avoid getting stale, without taking such huge leaps that the fans have trouble adjusting to their new style. How considerate of them. There has been a bumper crop of concerts these last couple of weeks in my town. In the past week I've seen Jimmy Eat World, Ben Folds, Clem Snide, Tenacious D, and Weezer. Everyone was great, except Weezer. They seemed kind of bored. Tenacious D were hilarious, Clem Snide were darling, Ben is good, and Jimmy Eat World were better than I thought they'd be. These kids and their rock music...I don't know what the world is coming to. I was really surprised to see so many well known bands come through town in the past week. Champaign-Urbana is usually pretty good about having interesting things to do, but somedays it seems like the only culture in town is growing in a petri dish in the biology building. I'll be happy to graduate in a week or so and get back to Chicago. I don't know what to make of the Rachel OJ thing. I guess in a Tom Sawyer/Huck Finn kind of way it would be interesting to see what everybody thinks when I'm not around. Although, I'm not as clever as Mark Twain, so I would probably get caught and in trouble too. I hope everything gets smoothed out between everyone involved. I've got my last day of college classes EVER tomorrow, and then finals next week, so if I'm extra scatterbrained or stressed out, don't be surprised. Before I go I need to give some mad props to my sinister homies: Ken for scoring 80 points on one word in literati, and making my first literati experience a lost cause before I even took my second turn Stacey for being the Dahling that she is, and her random words, and brat stories Rachel Fruitloop for a hearty welcome and for being as entertaining on IRC as she is in her posts Chicago Sinisterines...what happened? I don't remember seeing anything about the Chicago meeting...Somebody who was there drop me line, or let the list know how it all went down. No mad props for you until I get some details. and there are others too, but that's enough name-dropping for one post. Bye y'all...have a good day! Jason _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glitch550 at xxx.com Thu Dec 6 21:56:50 2001 From: glitch550 at xxx.com (jeff has arrived) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:56:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: A short Message-ID: <20011206215650.62338.qmail@web12803.mail.yahoo.com> -*- Love, Halcyon, and All of That Groovy Jazz Its 430 A.M. and I just got in. Or it was 4:30 when I got in, it's now 4:40. We went to that place in Brooklyn tonight Halcyon. Approaching it you feel the beat vibrating through the ground. The bass was making Smith street jump and bop. Everyone was just feeling the scene. The closer you got to the door the more it sucked you in. The place had a heart buried behind the DJ booth. It was wearing a pair of mirrored sun glasses, an orange vest, oversized jeans and Adidas sneakers. It pumped out seismic rhythms. Opening the door made the bass jump down your throat into your lungs, breathing the whole scene at once. Bass was jumping through veins and feeding my body a beat that could run a persons life. Thumping through the old vinyl shop was a heart beat of drum and bass. Hours flew by like seconds. It made life seem like it was running in fast forward. The scene wouldn�t let go long enough to let you take a breath. Everything was just moving and grooving. Simply living the life of the bass driven heart beat. Sitting there made your head spin and your body rock. Watching the lights and putting fingers on the arterial vein to get some action. Watching the videos on the wall and the girls walk by let you know that this was a hip place to be. We headed back to NYU and cooled out for like an hour. We looked at the pictures of the WTC on the 11th that were hanging on the wall. We talked about how f-cked up that whole situation, and life was, or had become, and then we were thinking of things to do. We ended up heading to a jazz club. We went to this place called Smalls on 10th St. and West 7th Avenue. It was a short walk to get there. We closed the door behind us on the way in. Bang. They went on these tangents that could blow a mind. The pianist had this dark, kind of curly, out grown hair, and a rock for a face. He had a vein sticking out of his neck, and he just wailed at the keys. They banged and crashed. He had a symphony of love in his mind and he just let it rip out of his finger tips. Burning through people�s minds and dancing in the inner most dwellings of the soul. He just went. He carried the group through ups and downs, and side to sides. It was a love story without the tears, who could ask for anything more, right? Making a cerebrum and heart burst in minutes with his dancing fingers was not a problem for him. This 30 something year old guy with a receding hair line plucked a upright bass. He hid in the corner of the group. Knowing the body of the bass like that of his lover made the notes come out so fast you could only think of what they had been doing the night before. His hands cut through the smoke filled air. Mild explosions lit cigarettes while these men told their story the only way they knew. Talk about the trade center, the city talking about drugs, jazz, tomorrow, how they didn't like their jobs, how they didn't like their parents, their bills, their car the cab drivers, and they talked about love. Sat on the side on the couch for the night, we did. We shot sh-t back and forth over the rhythm, talking about the same things as everyone else. There was a bar but no bartender. Only water and juice served there and you poured it yourself. The water was cold though, so there was really nothing to complain about. We joked around about finishing the wine in the bottle on the table that someone had left there. We joked around about college, and talked about how we hoped that we wouldn�t f-ck it up, along with everything else that had gone wrong. So we sat and listened and talked about a whole bunch of things, we drank some water and agreed that next time we went that we would get there at 10pm and stay till 7. Which would kind of throw my laundry schedule out of wack...but hey. I told him about how I wanted to start writing again. He asked me what I wanted to write, I told him Japanese literature, he didn't pick up on it at first. But then he laughed and said it was a good idea. Then he started blowing in the background softly at first, but then it picked up and he was wailing away at a speed I didn't know could come out. The saxophonist was about 25 maybe 26. A short white guy with a red shirt and light tan pants. He blew and blew until he was blue. He needed a break, and so did we. So we bailed. It was 325. We took the A train back to Lincoln center and K- and J- went back to K-�s dorm and I chilled out and waited for the D train to take me home. I just sat there and thought about how nice it would have been to have been sitting next to you in the jazz club and diggin the techno at halcyon. Halcyon is on smith st. 271 I believe. 271 Smith Street. Super groovy place. ===== to the extreme i rock the mic like a vandal light up a stage and watch me jump like a candle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Thu Dec 6 22:20:25 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:20:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the misdemeanours of wilbur, part XII "wilbur discovers sugar." Message-ID: <001501c17ea4$5e775620$4c2b3c3e@pbncomputer> Dagnammit, I'm rapidly running out of things for wilbur to do. Today you shake in your boots, posse people, as Corduroy Boy returns with a vengeance. And, of course, a smattering of ribena. (Or, elise, "Koolade", although I still seriously doubt it is in the same league. OK, I was barefacedly lying about the vegeance but *not* about the ribena.) Well well well. Sinister, eh? Back on the old sinnister bus, cranking it up on good old sinister. Yep. Firstly, a large, round furry hel-lo to all who have dealt me a good hand in the past. (Corduroy girl, Elise, Jen (the berry is still with me !XXX) Kirsten (Last time I was around, you'd worn a hole in the bum of your cords. I was really disappointed to be leaving at that point...), Jeanette (the scars are still with me!XXX), that girl who asked me if I was on Sinister the other day at "Offbeat", _ _ _ _( If anyone is in Montreal and interested to go out somewhere , there's this new club on Prince Arthur called le Bal Masque ( at 78 Prince Arthur) near metro Sherbrooke.. On thursdays it's a nite called Hacienda and the dj ( lady velvet ) plays all kind of music from britpop to madchester to Uk indie, and belle and sebastian gets played there amongst a lot of other bands. Cheers, fox in the snow :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Dec 7 12:08:39 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:08:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: My guttering days are over (EXCLUSIVE Sinister International Bowling Day!) Message-ID: Did you know what the world's most genius invention is? Holiday pay! Thanks to months of *cough* some hard working I have earned 6 days worth of holiday, so with a stroke of a genius (never you mind who I stroked) I have combined that with the 3 days of Bank Holidays and weekends around Christmas time to give myself a grand, 13 day break. If I were a potty-mouthed man, I would have said "Fuckin' yeah!", but I am in fact a very civilised man, and dare I say quite sexy, so I won't. Does anyone know what is a good thing to do around Christmas time? No? I do! BOWLING This is what you should do around Christmas time, imagine the fun time to be had, you and all your friends going bowling, throwing a ball through 60 feet of well oiled pine (well plastic), having a laugh as your friend sends another ball into gutter oblivion whilst looking like a giraffe, or elephant, or even kangaroo. The hours of pun fun chanting "Keep Bowlin'Bowlin'Bowlin'Bowlin'Bowlin' ush!" a la Limp Bizkit, or "dun! dun! dun! another one bites the dust!" as someone knocks down a pin, or, more likely, as someone falls flat onto the floor. (Hi Jeremy ;-)). As Stuart Murdoch himself once sang: "Oh no the snow stopped snowing, maybe we'll get some bowling and drinking in, and looooking at the sky" So, how about it? SINISTER BOWLING DAY Sinisters gather to go bowling and drinking! Got the Christmas blues? Hurl it away down the lane and knock those pins down well and true! Got the Christmas joy? Then there's no reason to be coy! HERE'S THE SCIENCE BIT, CONCENTRATE You should all come. Anyone near the London area who wants to spend an afternoon of ten-pin heaven then an evening down the pub with me (who doesn't?), drop me a line! The day Saturday 29th December stands out as a great day for it, because: 1) It's in between Christmas and New Year, so there's nothing else to do. 2) It's in between Christmas and New Year, so telly will be rubbish! 3) It's near Christmas, so it would be quite so very festive to get a "Turkey" (three strikes in a row). Those who don't live around London, should organise your OWN bowling meetups, THEN, we can all be Reporting Back on the regional hi-scores to reveal the Sinister Bowling Champion 2001! Have I in fact just invented something better than holiday pay? No, but it's still pretty good. Get those bowling shoes ready hipsters! See you on the 29th! Bowling Shoes and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Those who followed the thread months ago about Stealing Bowling Shoes can participate in another regional competiton of "Who can steal the most pairs of shoes" as well. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Dec 7 14:52:36 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:52:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Look out! Cliff! Message-ID: <20011207145236.74037.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> yo sinister posse! After a fairly dull week I seem to have gotten myself involved in the ongoing mix tape feud by joining the robins/yns/erts against the wills and the rachels. If we're not careful we could end up with a multi-faction Sinister mix-tape war and Kofi Annan will have to sort things out. Or at least he would if he wasn't busy: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1697000/1697088.stm I don't envy ken's job as judge but I do envy his real job since he seems to be able to do sickies with remarkable ease. Some people have been throwing Young Ones quotes around. Grate! Olalala provided the Alexei Sayle one which is possibly my favourite. My flatmate likes the bit where Neil (possibly while wearing a dress) says "Everyone listen to me. I have something really important to say" to his completely oblivious flatmates. He says it reminds him of living with me. Neil said: "I would just like to say that if anybody is voting for "Jonathan David" as Single of the Year" on Mark & Lards show, (www.bbc.co.uk/radio1) please don't vote lots of times, as we have a reputation for that kind of thing." Like that's ever gonna happen. I've already voted 600 times for "scream if you wanna go faster" by hairy jellywell which should negate any Sinister block votes anyway. Robster http://robster75.tripod.com P.S. Fruitloop, Ken Chu, arms of sex, Belle & Sebastian. Did I forget anything? ________________________________________________________________ Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! The competition ends 16 th of December 2001. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Fri Dec 7 15:25:00 2001 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:25:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Don't look at me, I'm irrelevant. In-Reply-To: <20011207145236.74037.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C106ECC.29636.D72394@localhost> To continue with the new trend of quoting The Young Ones, I decided to quote the talking matchbox. Here's a bunch of scripts for the show: http://www.ironworks.com/comedy/youngone/youngone.htm And now to make this post B & S related. Uhh....errr....eeeee.... I'm listening to Jonathan David right now. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's the ticket. "I'm not a fridge, you know!" But...last night I introduced some International Students to B & S. I had a small dinner party at my home, and my [sort of] girlfriend came over, and she brought some of her friends. So, I had one Korean, one Mexican, two Taiwanese, and two Japanese in my home, and one Chinese. It was pretty cool. I was giving them an early Christmas dinner, because none of them had had a good, authentic Xmas dinner. So, for background music, I played B & S. They liked Sinister, and the new single very much. Then everyone went home, and I watched reruns of "Bosom Buddies." The End. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "She's stuck in an infinite loop, and he's an idiot... that's love for you." - futurama. http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infi nite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Fri Dec 7 15:40:20 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:40:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If the cardy don't fit you must acquit Message-ID: Oooh! It was all very exciting, wasn't it? Rachel OJ stealing that bus then driving it very slowly with a bun held to her head, while helicopters whirred in the skies above and we all watched on the telly. "I've got a bun! It's creamy, and if you come to close it'll make a dreadful mess!" I was gripped. Later, OJ was arrested for stealing a Rachel's identity, impersonating a Rachel without a licence, and riding her bike on the pavement. You must remember it. The only witness had described a nambly pambly girl in a cardigan running from the scene of the crime. Of course, when the prosecution presented the cardigan as evidence, the defence said it wasn't hers... "If the cardy don't fit, you must acquit..." It didn't fit, but the prosecution knew the cardigan had shrunk because she'd spilt tea on it during a dramatic moment in Animal Hospital. Surgeon: "Where's the rabbit gone? Quick! Fetch the tranquilliser gun! It's attacking Rolf's face!" Rolf: "Flamin' 'eck, doc! Yer great gallah! That's only me hairy beard!" They knew this because they'd seen it too and spilt their sherry. And they weren't the only ones watching Animal Hospital that night. In the house over the road, next door to the pencil shop, a girl called Rachel was watching it too. OJ knew that at 8 o'clock, after Animal Hospital had finished, Rachel would take a bath to recover from the excitement, and to wash off the perspiration caused by the sight of Rolf's furry friends. OJ snuck up the stairs while Rachel's identity was hanging on a peg outside, and stole it. Later, when the police inspected the scene of the crime all they found was a small pile of crumbs. Of course, as you know, it was the crumbs that convicted her in the end. They were also found on OJ's cardigan and were indentifed as being from the same packet of digestives. OJ had crushed one of these biscuits during an especially exciting moment on Animal Hospital. Surgeon: "Let's mend this rabbit then. Nurse, pass me the ear clamps. Can't have the bugger escaping again. Hold on where is he? Rolf?" Rolf: "No, doc, that's me beard again, yer dozy dingo." Surgeon: "I wasn't looking at your beard, Rolf. There's some ears sticking out from your shirt." Rolf: "Strewth! It's in me pouch!" Surgeon: "Oh my god! Rolf - you're a marsupial!" So OJ was knocked up, er, I mean banged up, er no I'll start again. OJ was thrown in prison for a very long time. The End* Actually I didn't understand the whole Rachel OJ thing at all. You might have noticed. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Here you go. This is what you're looking for, after scrolling past all of that nonsense. Well it's not much, but I was glad to see that all of the writing that's ever been on the Banchory website has been revived and put together in the same place, here: http://www.banchory.net/belleandsebastian/ Click on the bus. All of the diaries are there too which can be very funny. MY NAME IS BOB Yes it is. As the Robster has said, he, Robyn and I have decided to enter our own team into the orgy of filth that is the mixtape challenge and give all those Wills, Rachels and Henrys a run for their money. If your name's Robert or Robin or Robyn, or even if you simply like to bob, you can join our team - The Bobs. Just email me and I'll tell you when the first training session is. bye Robin x *This is a rather mediocre work of fiction and resemblance to real Rachels, living or dead, is purely coincidental. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Fri Dec 7 16:29:53 2001 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Yet another desperate request for tickets Message-ID: <20011207162953.22059.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Hello out there, I'm still alive! Anyway I feel kinda guilty about writing this because it seems that all I ever do these days is disappear for six months and then spring back into action on the list to beg for tickets for gigs... and on that topic :-) does anyone have any tickets going spare for the QMU gig? You wouldn't believe how disorganised my flatmates are at buying tickets, and I would feel a bit lonely trooping along on my own. I would be so so grateful to anyone who could help! Thanks very much Baba ________________________________________________________________ Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! The competition ends 16 th of December 2001. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Fri Dec 7 19:36:36 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:36:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The dog's... er, wheels? Message-ID: Hello prospective bus people, I think there's 8 of us; any advance on that? Sorry I've not been back in touch sooner but it's been a scream-inducing week. I'm going to make a few enquiries about hiring a minibus and I'll get back to you as soon as I can (honest!), assuming anyone's still interested and hasn't just moved house to Belfast in the meantime... Unfortunately, with so few of us that may just be a less expensive option! Wish me luck, Mark. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shrimpmagnet at xxx.com Fri Dec 7 22:32:57 2001 From: shrimpmagnet at xxx.com (Kate Keenan) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:32:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: knavety vs. chickencysm Message-ID: Hello dear old Sinister, Well no one's posted in well over an hour now - I don't think that you're taking my needs into account. Here I sit, in my recepetionist's fort of papers, paperclips and post-it notes, defenseless against the pointlessness of my little daily chores. The weekend is so close I can almost smell it (could be the alcohol vapour lingering in the air from the breath of the last bike courier who was here. Those guys are inspirational. The gunslingers of the corporate world.) It would just be sick and wrong to get some work done at this point. I need some sinister distraction! Now I'm forced to provide it myself. A shocking prospect for a spoiled little lurker like moi. Right, but anyway, there I was on the Queen streetcar last night with my friend Lesley (who has just been telling me about the unusual number of stranger exchanges she's had recently) when an energetic man in his early forties with long silver hair, a polartec ensemble, two sparkly stickers on his cheek, and carrying a very worn file folder, charges up from behind her and exclaims directly to us "Whoa! Everybody's going to the Humber!" (I think fairly translatable to, "My, this streetcar, whose final destination is the Humber River loop, is a lot fuller than usual." with undertones of "EVERYONE ON THE STREETCAR HAS FINALLY REALIZED THERE IS NOTHING LEFT BUT TO HURTLE - LEMMING STYLE - TO OUR TOXIC DOOM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HUMBER RIVER, YES MY FRIENDS, IT'S THE END OF THE LINE INDEED!") Now Lesley and I have an ongoing discussion about the level to which it's sensible to engage with people who have a tendancy towards such capital-lettered undertones. We both switch up stances regularly. I can be a bit impatient and cowardly sometimes whereas she is more of a patient and giving idealist. But then sometimes I get consumed by an adventurous I-want-to-look-the-world-in-the-eye-at-all-costs spirit and likewise sometimes her will can be broken by the sheer number of people who sense her openness and capitolize on it. So yesterday I was up for it and she was not. I gamely agreed with this guy about the Humber (whatever the implications) and Lesley just looked lamely at her knee with an apologetic smile. I couldn't help but have the feeling that the rest of the people on the streetcar (maybe Lesley too) felt like I was being a traitor for inviting futher outbursts from our man and that I was "asking for it" - maybe just paranoia on my part. To the rest of the streetcar's credit, he did go on to say that he was on an anti-anxiety pill called Xanxtrablax (or similar) and that it was - with a significant glint in his eye - great. He was happy to notice that we were on the "joint" (the little circular swivelly bit of extra-long streetcars that enables them to make turns.) Standing on this bit of the streetcar is one of the small joys of my life as its like a mini amusement park ride which comes free with admission. So again, I cheerfully agreed (only now pausing to wonder if he was making any pharmaceutical/anatomical references - so naive) (pronounced knave, as in Hal Hartley's "Trust"). Then he tells us, he used to sail the Humber as a kid. And I'm thinking, there now see! This is quite a fascinating converation I'm having with a striking peson -enhanced by Xanxtrablax though he may be - that I never would have had if I had been all chicken and cynical. But then he goes and tells poor Lesley that she has amazing eyes and did she know that - his eyes doing more ominous glinting (maybe trying to live up to hers). So then I said "Wouldn't want to do that, now it's all polluted, what if you fell in!", gave a tight little bright little smile and joined Lesley in some intent knee examining. Then he said something like, "I gotta get out of here..." and took off. Lesley and I ended up feeling like chumps somehow. We were feeling guilty for suddenly closing up on him. But this is my point (yes indeed, oh ye of little faith): one can never seem to win in those situations! You can either be a wimpy little drone worker bee in your little private-in-public-pod and constantly miss out on genuine human interaction or you can enter into these crazy exchanges but eventually you'll end up having to extricate yourself and you'll feel like a hypocrite traitor. Maybe the answer is to not feel weird guilt at having to walk away. At least you tried. It's how people (me included) end up not giving to people on the street because they don't know where to draw the line. If I give a dollar, why not 20? Why not my wallet? paycheque? apartment? Why give to this person and not the next ten I pass? You just get overwhelmed. The tyranny of charity. But it's a rotten reason not to give anything at all. Well, that turned itself neatly into a nice little social commentary just in time for the holidays. And holy long post! Sorry (to any diehards remaining.) And now look! I'm officially 23 minutes into the week-end! Thanks all for seeing me through! Off to waste time on my OWN terms. Kate p.s. (Some of the preceding thoughts on genuine interaction with strangers are also brought to you by the brilliant movie Waking Life. And the letter C.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Sat Dec 8 01:45:03 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:45:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: everything i ever took for granted, i'm gonna let it be Message-ID: thanks to a lovely game of literati (yahoos' version of scrabble) with kirsten and andy last night, i can't put my beth orton central reservation cd back up. we all 3 listened to our respected copies while playing with the words. it's one of the more comforting and lovely "chat" experiences i have, when you can actually share in an activity with others. and to have the same music in the background as the others? that's cool as all heck. what's not cool is being so addicted to the game that you come on the next day, play mr. chu, he kicks yr ass AND it makes you leave the house later than you'd planned on. *sigh* i'd go bowling with him as well, but, well, it's just too danged far away. amy fun fact: i own my own bowling shoes and ball! it's true. don't tell everyone, it's emberassing enough.... i don't know about that whole OJ mess myself... i just hope it doesn't disrupt our tape making too much... rachels ... let's call an e-meeting! my belle and sebastian $00.02 for this post: the new single is superb. just brilliant. i really favor the way they are going. someone mentioned feeling that the lyrics aren't as personal as they once were. i wouldn't fret too much about that. i love their storytelling (ooooh, no pun on the movie intended) and vibe. they are the best *feeling* group, wether it's coming from the heart or the head, i've possibly ever heard. maybe there are more stories and not as many feeling words, but that same stroke of humanity, poetry, lust and bliss is still there. i have a friend who detests isobell's singing. he really has a problem with her for some reason. he is out there posting on message boards, "the new belle and sebastian single is worthy of your time because isobell sings no leads on it", etc. so many lovely things to say about our beloved.... of course, i've slapped his wrists with a ruler more than once! i am glad the single is turning him back around to them though. i didn't realize how many people fell off from the band with the release of fold your hands... i'm hearing all sorts of backlash about that lp that i must have missed before. but, if these kids are turned back on by the new single, where in the hell were they for jonathan david? jonathan david is beautious! oh well. music, so subjective! maybe it's just "cool" now to say that you prefer "their earlier work". they have enough releases now to make the people that say that sort of thing happy. how boring. what else have you been listening to this week, amy? well, i'll tell you. neil young, simon & garfunkel, aretha franklin, throwing muses. there are your answers! prolly won't see you literati kids this weekend, i've got visitors a-comin'... i just made one of those big, long, shout out good-byes to a million different people. i don't like them. they are so ... impersonal. and, you'll always forget one person.... so, if i've ever met you, planned to meet you, talked to you, played literati with you, had a crush come from you, if you've ever read one of my posts or i've ever read one of yours, if you've ever heard belle and sebastian and fell in love with the music, know that i wish you well and only dream of happiness for you. tra la la, amyjacks at work (home: dotsandloops at yahoo.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Sat Dec 8 02:19:28 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 20:19:28 -0600 Subject: Sinister: nice one, geezer Message-ID: Hello again, all you lovely, lovely people. Wow. Rachel OJ was a fraud. It's not too far-fetched, but she did tell some heart-breaking stories. Good ones too. This makes me question some of our other posters. Ken Chu, Kirsten Kenyon, and the eerily silent Laura Llew might not be real. Perhaps they are descendents of the talented group of people who wrote Shakespeare's catalogue of writing? Or perhaps they are robots. If Ken is as good at DDR as reports indicate, he must be robot. That game is hard. I know a lot of you hate Christmas time, but I've always loved it. I have no problem with people who hate Christmas, in fact, I totally understand why. I just like it because it's time off from school and it's cold for once in southern alabama. Not that cold, but colder than usual. It's quite nice. Last weekend, my life reached a new low. At my friend's birthday party (which I hosted for some unknown reason), somebody had purchased a porn dvd entitled "Let my puppets come." Yes, it is what you think it is. Puppet porn. It exists. Maybe everyone knows about this already and I am the last to know. Either way, it was very disturbing. I never thought I'd see puppet bestiality, but there it was. Hardcore puppet porn. What kind of world do we live in? I'm going to Glasgow on the 15th I believe, and I'm gonna be kicking around there and other parts of Scotland. I have no plans or no idea what I'm going to do (other than freeze my bum off), or even where I am going to sleep, but it should be fun and interesting. If you see a lonely, lost American milling about outside the Belle and Sebsatian gig hoping pointlessly for an extra ticket to purchase, it will probably be me. If anyone wants to meet for a drink or something around that time, e-mail me (off-list of course), and perhaps we can meet up and I'll buy you a pint. Alright, I'm done. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Sat Dec 8 13:10:18 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 13:10:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We have us a bus! Message-ID: Actually, it is 10 people so far; told you I was under pressure! I've even lost the power of basic arithmetic (again!). Anyway, I've managed to book a 16-seater minibus for Belfast, how much it costs per head depends on how many bodies we can round up. So can anyone who's definitely going please let me know as soon as possible; call or text me at 086 3424095. I'd rather not be giving out my number online but needs must! Departure time and place will follow once I've got me bearings back. Right, I'm off to post the news on a bulletin board! By the way Seamus, it's been a while since I did any exams, it's just the wonderful detritus of life that's weighing me down! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Dec 8 15:24:06 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:24:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The Herman Ideology Message-ID: <20011208152406.37773.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> I'M WAKING UP TO US is an A-side. The song's raw, I mean cooked, drama, is enough to get B&S through their fake 60s obsession. As so often with B&S, Nicky D was so right, ahead of the rest of us. Not with anything else, mind. I LOVE MY CAR is kinda kinks but should be put on the 7th concrete floor for 24 hours and incur a hefty charge; and possibly a pink sticker in the window. MARX & ENGELS might, I think, be the best track ever to appear on a B&S 45. The melody is crazy catchy: the second melody works after all: the music is lush, the guitar sweet. The lyric is Old School but I'm none to complain. The thing is a minor marxterpiece. But I don't altogether believe in the reality of the "Marx Quotation". Christmas is near so skies are blue. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Sat Dec 8 21:53:59 2001 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:53:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: not much, really. Message-ID: hello all! I haven't posted for SOOOOOOOOOOOO long, I should ,probably,go back to the nursery and resurrect myself in sinister land. Well, Sylvia Dahling inspired me to write again. She lives in Athens and talks about it and the rest of the Greek sinister people and I remember them and have a little tear ready to drop off my eye. What has gone so wrong with me?Where have my sinister days gone?? Third-uni-years take up so much time off your life. Hope I'll be able to get to writing again. I watched Jools Holland he other day and it was soooo nice...Most probably I will never see B&S live as whenever they play somewhere I live-Brumm or Greece, depends on the season;I'm a bit like holidays...-I am somewhere else. The new single is superlicious!I love it! It makes me thing of love and relationships and is it me or is it a bit bitter?Maybe it's me. Also, going way back to a post about bad experiences with flatmates: I was in one of Hell's houses myself last year which led me go all mental and stuff and had to go to a councillor in my uni or I would've been locked up.Nice, eh???It affected my life so much that I drifted apart from friends as I was trying to recover. Now I'm fine but I want to apologise to Velocity for disappearing. A letter is on your way my dear...Hope it makes you happy. Nice to write again.I'm reading you all everyday. Bye bye Z. ps. Isn't there anybody in B'gham area anyway? www.studentpaper.co.uk info at studentpaper.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Sun Dec 9 02:00:02 2001 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 02:00:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: <005201c18055$38372c80$3d3c073e@Cottyn> I've only posted a couple of times before, so I'm sure that you are all very excited by the prospect of another helping! It was Corduroy Boy Tom that prompted me into writing again. The fact that he mentioned my name in his last post made me go all fluttery inside! Autographs later please... Firstly, some B&S content. Everyone else has given their verdict on the new singles, so I will too. (Better late than never!) Overall, good but not brill I'd say. 'IWUTU' is a nice song but it was never going to be that successful, it just wasnt as accessible as, say, 'Legal Man'. But it really is growing on me, I love the way Stuart sings the first line, I dunno why, but I do! Also, I can't remember who it was but someone mentioned that Richard looks a bit 'funny' in his photo. I know exactly what you mean! Everytime I open the CD case I have to have a good giggle at his facial expression-I'm not sure what it is exactly-perhaps it just doesnt look very natural, or...erm...well i dunno! And now, a warning about our favourite festive figure. We all know Father Christmas as a jovial, kind-hearted man. Yet this is nothing more than a myth. He is in fact nothing more than a sinister, selfish adulterer. The evidence?! "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus!" So next time he asks you if he can jump down your chimney, slap him in the face! Don't be taken in by the friendly facade. So be careful! Don't get too drunk on Christmas Eve! (Just realised-I managed to get 'sinister' in that...aren't I clever?! impressed?!) I'm still trying to get my sister (15) and brother (11) into B&S. I caught my brother singing 'Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying' last week so it may well be working! Also, a few people on here have mentioned Camera Obscura and The Moldy Peaches. I think I'm going to have to check them out...any particular albums you'd recommend?! Cheers...Ciao for Now! Richard PS Ken P Y Chu-love your posts! Keep 'em coming! PPS Why have I got 'YMCA' by the Village People in my head?! Actually, please don't answer that. Please? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Dec 9 04:49:27 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:49:27 EST Subject: Sinister: wow, he's really hot Message-ID: <15f.544b1df.29444757@aol.com> I saw will levin today. It made me happy, of course, but I also felt like a bit of an old duff when I didn't say hello. I was suffering the after-effects of three days of caffeine-induced high. Anyhoo, my friend imed me tonight and the conversation went something like this: Friend: I'm high Friend: I'm high Me: Good for you.. Me: I saw will levin Me: He's really hot. Friend: Really? Me: He's really hot. Friend: I think we've already covered this. Me: He's really hot. Friend: ok. My mind is somewhat one-tracked. Richard Cottyn said: It was Corduroy Boy Tom that prompted me into writing again. The fact that he mentioned my name in his last post made me go all fluttery inside! So I'm doing it too. But to say that I agree with Richard's "But it really is growing on me, I love the way Stuart sings the first line, I dunno why, but I do!" That was the only reason I bothered to listen to I'm Waking Up To Us in the first place. I like that first line. A lot. I really need someone to take some joy in something I do. I'm off to clean my room. I love you all! cheers h xoxo p.s. I bought a nice glass ring for three dollars today. It's a pretty little green thing, just like.. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Mon Dec 10 07:46:49 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:46:49 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Just about italian and brazilian books and desperation... nothing of interest. Message-ID: <3C144C49.14871.3A04AB@localhost> Oh, Sinister... Wednesday I was downtown, near the office I work at, and had the almost brilliant idea to go to a bookstore spend my time, as I was out of work for at least two hours from then on. I went to my favourite one, called "Berinjela" (egg-plant). It's really cool. It's in the basement of a business building, and you reach it after descending a long spiral ramp, as if you're going to some kind of medieval dungeon. In the end, instead of skeletons in chains, you find a pharmacy, a small restaurant and two bookstores - one of them being the so called "Berinjela". At first, everybody wonders: "how can people have this kind opf commerce underground!?!?". For me it's no longer so mysterious... At "Berinjela" you can find a lot of cool stuff, among books, CDs, LPs, comics and bibelots. When I am out of money, that's the place I go to spend a couple of hours listening to records I won't buy and reading books without taking them either. Once in a while, I freak out and buy lots of stuff, some really desired and some I won't remember why are at my house a few weeks later. That's just what I felt when I bought three albuns of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions at once. I like Lloyd Cole, but not with that...urgency. But, this wednesday, as I arrived there, I glanced at the bookcases, as ever, and saw something amazing: one of the books I searched more desperatly in my whole short and unsufficient life!! It's called "A Pedra do Reino", by a brazilian author called Ariano Suassuna. It's sold out. It's rare. It's perfect - and, at that time, it was cheap!! But - oh, irony! - I had no credit card in me, no cash, no one to bring me the money - I was alone in the office - and no chance to get the book immediately. I said to the the atendant, a very sympathetic middle-aged man, with agony in my eyes: "Couldn't you make a reservation, keep it out of sale for me until tomorrow?". He was so cruel: "sorry, our policy doesn't allow us to this anymore". I stacked. said: "so it's better saying goodbye now, because this book is going to disappear from the shelf as soon as I turn my back". He agreed: "I don't even know how you've come to find him today, as I put it there yesterday. It's a miracle!". I didn't laugh, as he probably thought I would, and went away, to try to find someone to lend me the money. Two hours later I made contact with my elder brother, who was casually nearby, and he said he'd come with the money. I was happy, of course, but I decided to go check if the book was still there after asking my brother to change his plans for me. And my fears were fully confirmed: not a trace of the most awanted book... It was gone, took by some other book-adicted as myself... so sad. I still hope to find the book someday... wish me luck. Until then, knowing there's an italian writing for the list (Stefano, I guess...), I must congratulate him for the greatness of his country's authors: I am just finishing another Alberto Moravia's novel, "Il Conformista", and had already been delighted by "Paura Alla Scala", by Dino Buzzati, with delightful short stories. As I see, the twentieth century was generous to italian literature. Beto (and his boooooooooring messages) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Dec 9 15:07:19 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:07:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: How To Write A Sinister Post Message-ID: 1. Find a computer which is not known for blinking off halfway through an e-mail 2. Make sure that you don't have the list's address already printed in the "Send To" column so it won't accidentally send a half baked post 3. Set your timer for 15 minutes 4. Try to figure out a witty coherent introduction for your post 5. Realize that you've just woken up around 4am with this dialogue in your head: Lady 1: I do love the rain so. It reminds me of my first kiss. Lady 2: Ah, you're first kiss was in the rain? Lady 1: No it was in the shower. 6. Forget the part about being coherent. 7. Realize this is a flashback from the few months where your sister holed herself up in her room and did nothing but watch reruns of the Golden Girls and Designing Women until all of her conversations reflected this fact and were strained of all extranneous fluff until there was only phrases such as, "I'm jumpier than a virgin at a prison rodeo!" left. 8. Give up on being witty 9. Realize that though you're so dim that people can hear the ocean when standing near you - surely you're surrounded by others who are clever. 10. Replay all recent dialogues in your head in hopes of gleaming something to steal and use as your own: Dialogue #1 Me: Oh, Amelie is a French movie I want to go see. Evidently, the main character in it reminds people of me. Will: I had a french film which reminded people of me once. I was pretty disappointed to find out it was The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Dialogue #2 Me: I almost got a tattoo on my birthday. Man: Where's your birthday? 11. Forget about being witty altogether 12. Sign on to #Sinister in hopes of being roused to post about something B&S related 13. Find yourself typing things like, "I hate to ruin your knowledge of anatomy, Katrina, but what your brothers have that you don't have IS NOT A TAIL." 14. Forget the part about #Sinister being a muse or a motivator. 15. Push play on the stereo 16. Listen to Bright Eyes sing: "Laura are you still living there - on your estate of sorrow? You used to leave it occasionally Now you don't even bother...." 17. Realize you're in love with the song though you think you like Will Oldham's Laura song ("Disorder") better 18. Wonder if this makes you EMO 19. Shiver with the fear that at any second Sexpot Sauer might come swooping down from the ceiling while accusingly yawping a "FREAKING HIPPY" at you before she tackles you with a kamikazee kung fu kick. 20. Wait 21. Become despondent when nothing happens 22. Realize this is written in third person 23. Remember when your mother lectured you in high school for always referring to yourself as "Laura" instead of referring to yourself in first person. Remember how her voice became particularly lovely with shrillness as she said that you were acting like a Schizophrenic and were driving her crazy? 24. Remember your retort of, "It's not a long trip" 25. Make a personal note that even though she's 30 years older than you that you must remember to have quicker reflexes, especially with ducking. 26. Refocus on the fact you're writing a post to Sinister 27. You bought Belle and Sebastian's new single! Alas, CONTENT! 28. Wait, you haven't listened to it since it's in your car which has broken down yet again due to bad engine mounts. 29. Ponder on the fact that you didn't even know Hubris had mounts - much less that they had been straying onto wicked paths. 30. Wonder if your car gets more action than you 31. Remember that a boy tried to kiss you yesterday at the bookshop while you were putting things away in the supply closet but you turned your head so he only made contact with your hair 32. Strategically plan how you can spend more time at work near the supply closet. 33. Wonder what that boy is doing now 34. Wonder what that noise is 35. Realize your 15 minute timer has gone off 36. Panic that that long has gone by and you haven't thought of a Dorothy Parker quip yet 37. Think of how when Dorothy Parker was your age she spent her weekends wearing nothing but a broad brimmed hat 38. Conclude that Dorothy Parker didn't go on a lot of roadtrips in her day 39. especially not in cars with vinyl seats 40. especially not in the summer 41. Suddenly have a vague memory that you were going to post the deadline to the Sinister Christmas Present Exchange 42. It passed 43. Recall how you were going to respond to Matthew Henderson's query of, "What exactly is a tea towel?" 44. Become disgusted to think of how it has NOTHING to do with a tea but is just a dish cloth 45. Wish once more that socks were part of the Belle and Sebastian line of band related merchandise 46. Look down and realize that you're only wearing one sock and that's why your left foot is cold 47. Wonder where the other sock is 48. Realize it's probably in your bed where you kicked it off in your sleep 49. Wonder why you're not in bed ... with the New Yorker sipping hot chocolate. Or better yet with A New Yorker who works in a bookshop in.. 50. Be reminded of how this is exactly what it was like trying to write a paper in college _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Sun Dec 9 17:54:02 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:54:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: QM tickets Message-ID: hello, I also really need a ticket for this gig. I have bought my train ticket to glasgow, and am missing a gig with my band, my friends 18th and the last college night out before christmas for this, but I havnt got a ticket yet. there was one I was told I could get, but the girls mum sold her tickets to someone else, leaving me ticketless. please help... :( Baba> if you like ill keep you company as im going on my own anyway (if I find a ticket that is) :) love philip http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Sun Dec 9 18:28:21 2001 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 19:28:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jazz in Alexanderplatz Message-ID: <20011209182821.SEAV18169.fep06-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> ---~metaphor alert~--- LIFE! *-lite*, and it makes me happy, like someone emerging from the overindulgent ministrations of three geisha-girls in a Turkish bath whilst a bathrobed and sweating Marlon Brando sits in a corner reading aloud passages from *The Perfumed Garden* accompanied by a wrinkly woman with unfeasibly russet hair on the cymbalon. The morning outside is sharp and chill: sunlit and open. The bells (for this is Sunday) peal over a frosty valley here. Rails of the Inverness line wind joyously parallel over oily-filth-coated sleepers, in elongated sighs, tuggling a low winter sun northwards. Tesco are now stocking frozen tiger prawns again after some six month's absence. *Carry on Nurse* is on television. I have an easy job. It doesn't bore me. Yes, the little things in life haven't been dull this week; they've been *nice*, *pleasant*, *easy*. -the pantisocratic velociraptor is snuffling in turpitude-* She's got a German accent, and she's got a Glasgow one. The chap singing with guitar and synth (it's a wee analogue monophonic number whose keys he occassionally dunks with the headstock of his Stratocaster) 'He's so droll' enthuses a member of the largely art-school audience as either 'The Rebel' or something vaguely compound in German beginning with the letters oh dubblya el and sporting a rather fetching fedora works through his wittily composed tales of girls over garden walls and Hungarian accordion artistes. I'm leaned against a square concrete column, alone and gradually retreating up the ramped portion of floorspace as the Girl with the Glasgow accent is slowly but surely reversing against me whilst the German girl speaks over her shoulder and into her ear whilst staring, unwaveringly, at me. I'm kinda baffled by this intense if elliptical onslaught. Over the space of the guy's musical set I've retreated a full three feet in a steady, relentlessly glacial or tectonic shift. Now I've to try and reach down for my shoulder bag without appearing to be making a health and safety inspection of the girl's jeans as she yells back into the German girl's ears about the status of the working classes. I'm not dressed right and my complexion is a mess. Furthermore, I feel old. Real old. At least I'm not drunk. Haha! I knew there was something needing, so I turned for the bar. But my brain dragged me out of the door and up the stairs. Just a pinky trace of the sun's illuminescence filling thin lines of cloud-vapour now. Beeswax candles have a delicious scent. Its flame is against a sky of fadings and gradients registered through black sticks of an empty tree. A soft rush of electric fan heater inches from the carpet and a penetrating whine from this beige-clad hardware sitting next to the monitor, occasionally burping as the Hard Drive performs some unfathomable chore under the windows. *Yeah, this is a bullshit phrase to save you time with the dictionary: 'pantisocracy' is a utopian community where all are equal and all rule 'velociraptor' is a dinosaur with long, grasping forelimbs 'snuffling' is to sniff at a thing in a contemptuous manner, and 'turpitude' is a rare breed of dwarf ferret indigenous to the Siberian Olyei and subsists almost exclusively on a diet of rotting gherkins. Someone has read a post of mine! Why thank you, Corduroyboy:) Jazz in Alexanderplatz Isn't the instrumental coda to Belle and Sebastian's *Marx and Engels* adoreable? Lilting piano, cello, descant recorder then some softer, deeper woodwind? Take four 'crayzee' East Germans on Alexanderplatz. It's raining. One is a ghost, or is, now... The man directing all the filming is called Jurgen, and now he's sitting in a stainless steel and wickerwork chair in front of cinema 2 screen in Glasgow Filmhouse with an interpreter called Fiona to one side, a cine-bloke asking questions to the other and a lady with a plummy accent in the row behind me requesting them to 'speak up!' The ghost is the recently deceased artist responsible for an unusually friendly giant bronze sculpture of Marx and Engels commissioned by the Hoenigger reigime in the 80's, in front of which play two virtuosically mad jazz musicians: a saxophonist and a percussionist. The saxophonist's brass horn is full of water which gurgles in Dolby surround sound in the cinema as he blows in. The percussionist slams droplets of water into a dance on the hi-hat then clangs some joinery hammers against Engels' sizeable metal feet. How many feet is that. MMmm. Dada is such a relief. Freedom to crazyness! Half-baked must be the opposite of biscuit in the mirror of the number one. If my computer didn't keep crashing... I'd be 'coherent lad'. and if my mind didn't keep wandering I'd be 'straightforward lad' /rouss toys with a toy boat and looks at more mails maybe... eek oh. If I don't post now I'll be too scared of Laura's dexterity, so I'd better get outta here and skulk around the chat room a bit. Gordon _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sun Dec 9 23:30:32 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 23:30:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: White Noise, Belfast, Soul Music Message-ID: I went to a reggae club on Friday. It was pretty good, but I liked it best when one of the DJs dropped in the occasional soul classic. You know, R.E.S.P.E.C.T or Really Sayin' Something. Or something. So now I think that soul music is better than reggae. I'm glad the B&S bus has been booked to take people up to Belfast, however I hate buses and will travel up by train. I do want to meet people in Belfast though. A wise person advised me that meeting in the Botanic Gardens would be foolish, on the basis that it is December and they will be very parky. Since then I've had two different pubs suggested to me - The Menagerie (on University Road) and some other one, the Botanic Inn or something (near the Botanic Gardens). I have no preference. There is a part of me that fancies being a tourist and saying 'let's meet in The Crown!'. However that would probably be full and is I think miles away from the Mandela Hall. Do people fancy an afternoon meetup or one just before the gig? I'd prefer an afternoon first and then maybe a pre-gig one too, unless that's a bit too meetup-tastic. Why, incidentally, do people all was talk about committing list abuse when they post in about forthcoming meetups? I thought that's what Sinister was for. Meanwhile, the Rachel OJ scandal has left me reeling, and I feel that I should make a clean breast of something before I too am exposed - I am not really a vicar. I am however very dirty, having not washed since last May, on my birthday. I had loads of fun yesterday, photocopying up the zine thing I publish. It's hyper-elitist, only available to those who write for it. There's nothing like the smell of photocopy toner to make you feel nice and healthy. And today I went to my first mulled wine party of the season, showing that it has arrived. I find the whole liking/not-liking Christmas argument a bit pointless really, it's a bit like saying that you hate wet weather and going into a sulk whenever it rains. Er, what I mean is, whether you like Christmas or not it's going to come around so you might as well make the best of it. That said, I am very aware that for various life-not-going well reasons people have a bad time of it at this time of year, which is very sad. I enjoyed Rener's post in which she revealed that we might go to the Athens Sinister meetup. I've long fancied visiting Greece, mainly through an interest in ancient Greek culture and all that. It's strange the way I grew up thinking of Greece as somewhere you would visit to have a fascinating high-brow holiday of looking at ruins and statues and visiting places where fantastic battles took place, while now Greece is somewhere people go on holidays to to neck pills, drink till they puke, and try to pick each other up. Shame. Having said that, I'll probably not get round to the Athens Sinister Meetup, as I never get round to doing things. I think I'll go to tubbybed now, hope you all are well. Big shout out to Corduroy Boy, Laura Llew, Astrid, David Moore, Grainne, and the whole get mental crew. blessed be, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 01:52:48 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:52:48 EST Subject: Sinister: perfect mixtape? Message-ID: <15c.58499ca.29456f70@aol.com> Hey all- I know this is a bit of list abuse, but...what would all of you consider the perfect mixtape? I need to make this girl a mixtape for chirstmas because she used to be my best friend, but i've come to realize she is....well...not. I need some help. Please!! send me what you would put on it much love sinister kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 04:15:23 2001 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 04:15:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: tangent ahead Message-ID: It's the middle of the night and I am pretending that I'm writing an essay.It's about News values on TV.Now that's a subject, huh???I'm bored...Plus today I had my first jealousy crisis.Yeap!It was great! My boyfriend knows this person -not very well- who is editor of my uni's newspaper, and they met in this meeting(sic) about the newspaper and then she sent him an email saying that she fancies him and if he'd like to go out with her!OK.So she didn't know he had a girlfriend.Fine...So he told her that he is very happy in a relationship-with me. Then , and after they have exchanged a few business orientated emails, she sends him an email starting with "Hi, sweetie"...HI SWEETIE???? ARGH!!!! I saw it today and I got SO JEALOUS that I got embarrassed for being so jealous.So I'm a bit possessive...SHOOT ME!!!HI SWEETIE???*#%&@ So now I'm calm...I have also just ready Laura Llwe's latest email and it's greeeeeeeat!!!I loved it..especially the sock part. Oh, yeah.Just remembered.This will be of more interest to the Greek members of the list or the ones who reside in Greece, anyway. Erm,I met a few people online through an Athenian radio station website (Rock FM 96,8), where there is a forum under the name Belle & Sebastian.Anyway, some of them are in Athens, others study somewhere else in Greece and others reside in the UK-like me! So, we were thinking of making a move to meet in the Christmas holidays and maybe create a Greek fun club or have a meeting anyway as we all like B&S. I did advise them to check the list, too 'cos some of them didn't know about it. So, my point is that any of the Greek or Greek residing sinisterines, if you are interested in this email me.I thought talking about it on the list would be the best thin gas I don't know how many people from Greece are registered nowadays. I know the usual suspects but you know... So, yeah..I'm going to see the strokes in February..I like them..they are funky and make me wanna dance.I got a ticket out of sheer luck too.Just cam to me to be honest.Thought they were sold out and then,bang!an email from their mailing list talking about something like tickets for funs...great stuff, huh??they were saying how this happens in the US all the time!How great is that?I liked it anyway... Oh, yeah.Does anybody know where I could listen to some garage punk in Birmingham?Where can one go?I found this place called Sputnik which looks great and all-it even played Legal Man!!!- but it's VERY small and has this huge speaker in one corner and it blasts music in high volume which is great when there are a lot of people in a huge, high ceiling place but there?it's a small low-ceiling cave...grumble....well, to be honest I have so much work this year that I just don't have time to go anywhere. But I did go and see this band called The Prefects...huhuhuhuhuh....These guys were around with The Clash and The Sex Pistols. Apparently John Peel had said that they were better than The Clash and they were a personal favourite.The fun part is that one of my lecturers in uni was a member of the band. When the band broke up some of them went on to form The Nightingales.Anyway, in late September this lecturer I'm talking about was the organiser of a Punk conference in my uni along with some more people.It was great!There were members from Crass there and Caroline Coon and an ex-Blondie person and lots of academics...Good stuff.So The Prefects grouped again and have played a few gigs since then. They even had this CD which was compiled mainly from two Peel sessions they did in '78 and '79 and 2 songs from the Electric Circus in Manchester from '77. It was so weird seeing my lecturer on stage banging his guitar and singing and stuff..I love this uni....Now the Nightingales are playing again in B'ham on Tuesday...I might go.What the hell.It'll be fun I guess. My best gig this year, so far, has got to be PJ Harvey in Manchester.She was amazing... This year I have Filmfour and I am recording amazing films everyday.I have also decided that sod media studies,I am doing a Film MA next year.Film is in my blood and I love it...I also discovered a really nice song because of a film.The film is Irma Vep by Olivier Assayas (France 1996) and the song is Bonnie&Clyde by Luna.Well, originally the song is by Serge Gainsbourg sung with Brigitte Bardot, I think but I have only heard the Luna version. OK.I'm all finished...Until next time, eat chocolate and strawberry cheesecakes... lots of kisses, Z. www.studentpaper.co.uk info at studentpaper.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 09:56:23 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 01:56:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: opinion Message-ID: <20011210095623.6009.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> The new single. Its crap. It�s a half hearted attempt at writing something, that sounds like bad Britpop during the days when it was popularity was waning and it was a word used to describe the likes of Catatonia, Space and Sleeper. Belle And Sebastian should really wait until they are actually in the mood for song writing because this doesn�t actually sound as if they are. It sounds as if they�re running short on funds for trips to the off license, and patched this mediocre indifferent piece of nonsense together, stuck a few lines round the internet saying �ooh look we�ve got some famous producer, therefore it must be good and we�re going up in the world!� To grab your attention, shoved it on the shelves and you lot bought it. I did too, but hey, at least I can say I notice a bad record when I hear it, rather than fawn over it. I bet they�re laughing right now, sitting on their arses, counting their money, Isobel in the courtyard eating bread and honey, and laughing at you lot for being so incredibly gullible and pouring your little hearts over it, hailing it as a masterpiece. It�s a bit like the latest piece of art to win the turner prize- a room with a flickering light. Its utter drivel. There�s absolutely no emotion in it at all. As throwaway as pop can get without giving it away with Happy Meals at MacDonald�s Drive-Thru. It�s a shame really, because you know that they are capable of so much more. And yet here�s the proof that they couldn�t be arsed. It sounds like they didn�t really care when they wrote it, as if they just got together. Belle And Sebastian, in my humble opinion, have taken to resting on their laurels. Why should they care? They have a record deal, a dedicated fan base who will buy and accept anything regardless just because it has those three little words on it: Belle And Sebastian. It�s a weak song, with weak lyrics, badly thrown together melodies, and a blas� attempt at music. Its as vibrant as a power cut. It�s a record that�s been done, and lacks the adventure to explore anything vaguely new and challenging. It�s a safe record, it�ll keep people happy, and what�s the point in exploring new lines of music, when you can churn out the same-old stuff and stay dependable within the tried and trusted boundaries of creativity? Is this creative? No, not at all. It�s unimaginative, dull and insignificant. Yes I bought it. No, I didn�t hear it before I bought it. Yes, its one of those records I�ll probably never take to the second hand shop, simply because I�d feel too ashamed to admit to owning it. Yes I�m still going to listen to Belle And Sebastian. Why? Because I live in hope that this was a one off blunder, a weak one amidst a back catalogue which is mostly flawless wonders. This is not Belle And Sebastian�s greatest moment, it�s a forgettable one. I hope that this is a mistake they can learn from and take a return to what they are renowned for: classic, undisputable genius. Its not ironic or clever, it�s just a stupid record. Rant over. Big hello to Paul Laird, for a great nights work at The Egg on Saturday, and playing some funky little numbers that I could wiggle away to. And he�s not the bloke I went to school with. He�s got a far cooler record collection. End of stuff. Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 10:02:26 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:02:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't have any puns Message-ID: How not to write a sinister post 1. Sit yourself down at a state of the art computer. 2. Twiddle your thumb a bit realising that with a thumb so small, there's nothing else to do. 3. Make mental (no really) note to self that constantly referencing B&S lyrics for a hobby is sad. 4. Decide to write a sinister post because you're bored. 5. Start the whole thing by thinking of a witty B&S song title pun. 6. Fail, and shout to yourself "I DON'T HAVE ANYPUNS". 7. Pose, whilst a thought bubble with a lightbulb on it appears over your head - and then exclaim "Eureka!" in a really patronising voice. (in Ken's case speak normally) 8. Put that down as your subject line. 9. Copy what someone else has written, and then change it slightly to make it seem as if you are remotely witty, and highly original. 10. Try and at least think of contents, or at least something that someone said on the list so you can reply to it and make everything suddenly seem relevant. 11. Remember that it is Monday morning and you're at work, you had 5 hours sleep last night and thus has a memory block. 12. Sign off, giving shouts out to everyone that you want to get into the pants of, then realise that that list would get too long and a few people would still be left out and thus not sleep with you. 13. Remembering that it is ok, because they wouldn't sleep with you anyway. 14. Give shouts out to your elbow, who is a fine kisser, despite being so untouchable - to you, but not to everyone else. 15. Story of your life. 16. Be glad that by merely trying to sign off you have put in some mandatory moaning about no-one you like falling in love with you contents. 17. Get sacked for doing no work at work. 18. Plot a career as a modern artist after being inspired by the Turner Prize winner last night which was "a light that goes on and off" - which was the best piece of modern arts you've ever seen, although "a pile of shit" by T.A. Lentless came close. 19. Feel relieved that you haven't actually been sacked, and so celebrate with a speech in the style of David Beckham at Sports Personality of the Year awards 2001: "like, I'd like to obviously thank everybody, like, obviously, my mum and dad and my two sisters and my whole family, like, obviously I'd also obviously like to like thank all my teammates and my manager, like obviously and, like" 20. Write something about Red Bull. 21. Write down your name so people will avoid your e-mails the next time. Ken P.S.: 22. Have a PS section that says fuck all. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 10:38:24 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Rachel PY) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:38:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't have any puns (appendix) Message-ID: Ken forgot.. 23. say something controversal (especially about B&S) to spark off a list debate. Rachel PY P.S.: 24. Strain everyone's mailbox still further with an e-mail with 3 lines, but in disguise and pretend that no one would notice. However not forgetting to apologise saying "Sorry, I won't do it again". _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 10:52:15 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:52:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: here I go.... In-Reply-To: <007f01d7e86c$2706fb80$870ea0d4@007> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011210104945.00aafe50@pop.orpheusdesign.com> I love that this mail came from the future. That means there's a probability Sinister will still exist in 2021. we shall see. + senor droolcup At 12/3/2021 06:35 PM +0100, Maja wrote: >Dear Sinister, > >This is my first time on this mailing list. Please don't be too hard with >me. I'm a bit nervous, even ;) > >Take care and be careful with your health! > >maja > >P.S- My mum has just brought me a advant calendar with chocolates inside >;))) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 12:47:49 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:47:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i've looked through offices and honkytonks for a man man enough to be...mr and mrs tennessee. Message-ID: fake fire drills are possibly the most pointless thing ever. actually, no. they serve a purpose and i suppose we need them. ok. fake fire drills in winter are possibly the most pointless thing ever. i was sitting in my english lesson cursing shakespeare for writing the tempest and cursing my teacher even more for making us study it, then some siren/alarm/buzzer thing goes off. you could tell that it's the first chance that it's had to buzz because the poor thing kept on choking then eventually it reached a constant state of... buzz. what i did find quite amusing though was the fact that when confronted with a situation people completely disregard rules and procedure. for example "leave your stuff in the room", we packed everything into our bags, "form orderly queues in the corridors and head down the side stairwells"...about 500 people tried to hurl themselves down the main staircase. but, the funniest thing had to be the people adjusting their make-up to go outside, i giggled all the way outside. it was far too cold outside and then the 'premises staff' ushered us all of into the church just nextdoor. i just sat on a pew, put on my headphones and will oldham told me about how he wants to fuck a mountain. so here i am at home, will a red nose and cold fingers reading all your posts. bowling is a rather good idea, although i've always been extremely crap at it, i still enjoy it. i remember once when we went on a school trip to go bowling and i got put in a group where everybody had extremely small hands so they stole all the balls with small holes so i had to use a ball which was far too heavy for me and i could just about fit my entire hand through just one of the holes. when it was my turn to have a shot or whatever i went up and ran towards the line and when i swung my arm back to get at least some power on it the ball flew out of my hand and made this loud thudding sound on floor. on further inspection we learnt that it made a dent too, thus forever leaving my impression on the alley. but yeah, bowling sounds like a good idea. i thought of another title to give out too, "king/queen of the gutter". the person who manages to get the ball in the gutter the most times wins this prestigious title. this would be good for people like me who have no chance of being sinister bowling champion...so in a way..."we're all winners". i might be down in london at my brother's for new year so i might tag along for that. school trips in general were rather ace. i remember the first one i went on, to blackpool zoo. it was back when you had to hold hands with your classmates and your mum came along too. the only bad thing was we went in winter so all the animals were being lazy or were hiding. in a way that's good, i'm no longer scared of lions. the best one was when we were studying the tudors and we went to some old tudor mansion in sheffield. we got to dress up in all these costumes and hide in cupboards because they didn't like roman catholics...apparently. i remember acting really silly when they told us how old the house was. i thought it was going to fall apart so i stepped really carefully because i thought i was going to fall through the floorboards. i'll never go on a school trip again because i'm too old *sigh*. it'd be worth becoming a teacher just to go on them. keeping with this theme of nostalgia, my brother came up this weekend. it's great when my brother comes up, he tells me all about stock markets and how the world would collapse if it wasn't for his group. we ended up driving around and we ended up at our old street. i don't remember much about living there so i wasn't to affected but my brother was. he got really giddy, "i used to play cricket against that wall...the guy who lived there was a real knob". it was really funny. the only thing i remember about living there was when my dad spent the whole day constructing a gate for our driveway then being really proud of himself because he managed to do it by himself, then my mum goes "you haven't painted it". then my dad got really pissed off and stayed up way past midnight painting it just to prove something to my mum. i started work last thursday, i don't do much...but i suppose getting paid for not doing much is the way forward. i was however, fifteen minutes late. which wasn't my fault, but that of first bus company and it is a well known fact that first buss company are the root of all the wrongs in the world. there "gold service to manchester every 5 minutes" promise is such a lie. it should be "a bus to manchester every 20 minutes if the driver can be arsed to stop for you" service". and i had to stand because some bloke needed a seat for his feet, and i was too scared of him to ask him to move them. the building i work in is rather nice too. it's got one of those really old lifts (elevators...) which need to be manually operated. the guy who operates them is exceptionally small and doesn't look you in the eye, but that's ok. --- my local record store sells copies of "i'm waking up to us" for £6.99, that's wrong surely. b&s on jools was rather ace. jools got a gold disc too...on television. i think it's for one of those albums where he invites people round to his house and they perform other people's songs but they get the credit for it. i don't think jools liked them much, i think he was a much bigger fan of the buzz scaggs or whoever. at first i thought they were doing some sort of special effects until my mother informed me that my younger cousin had been around earlier and put magnets on the television thus creating a "rainbow" effect. goths are great, they utilise bin liners in ways i would have never of imagined. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Mon Dec 10 12:50:34 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:50:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Belfast and stuff Message-ID: <1007988634.3c14af9ad3138@www.crockery.org> Hi I haven't posted for ages, and I usually do under guise of a list parent, but this time I am a humble member with tickets to flog. I have two tickets for Belfast for sale (cost price, of course). Mail me off list. Oh, yes, they *are* for Belle and Sebastian, not the King Singers, or U2. We intended to trek over to see them, but then the Glasgow gig was announced... Linda xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zcraw96 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 10 13:56:53 2001 From: zcraw96 at xxx.uk (Christina McDermott) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Softer than her face would suggest... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011210135653.00879520@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Hello again Sinisterines and Sinisterettes, I know, I know...I've been quiet for a bit too long than is really good. It isn't all my fault you know. Essays about Mexican Politics/Plato's allegory of the Cave/Race and Ethnicity as Historical concepts have all been piled upon my head at once which is never a good thing, especially when you're suffering from a bad case of flu-thrax and someone you really like tells you that they don't like you "in that way" anymore. But so it goes...I've had my adventures. I go out, I fall over, I get back up but I still keep dancing. Talking of adventures..I've been having a fair few over the past few days. I think that there's something about London which seems to make all the strange and bizarre hapennings to me (of which there tend to be quite a few, even when I'm not within any immediate range of the M1) become slightly more magic and tinged with things that you'll always remember with a great deal of fondness. I went to see Tompaulin and Camera Obscura last Wednesday with the lovely Matt Wilson (also on this list, but tends not to show his face due to being overly shy. This doesn't stop half of Oxford knowing him though :D), Boog-a-loo Ben Apps and my lovely friend Marianne from my Halls. We were also graced with that Sinister Superstar Ken Chu. I think it was Matthew Henderson who said:- "If Ken is as good at DDR as reports indicate, he must be robot. That game is hard." Hmm...not seen him play DDR (although you're still beholden to a death match against my little sister Chu) he can *dance* and has developed dance moves to Jonathan David which are rather impressive. He also seems to be programmed to scav drinks off everybody...even me and I'm a poor student. Anyway, I highly recommed that everybody goes out and buys the Tompaulin album because they were amazing and had really cool harmonium mouth organ thingummybobs. Apart from the fact that one of their guitars was broken so they had to do some songs acoustically, they were amazing and I did little on-the-spot dancing and all was well. Camera Obscura were lovely too....even if they do look like a 14 year old being humoured by her benevolent uncles. The bassist looks like a bouncer. So, lots of fun and dancing was had by all and everybody took the piss out of the stickers on my clarinet on the way home (I came straight from band practise) because they were all from when some random 13 year old stole my clarinet which I had safely stored in the school music store cupboard and put stickers of "Kavannagh" and Take That on it. No honest..it wasn't me...why are you all looking at me like that?! I think I am rapidly becoming known as "the girl with the clarinet" around London. If you're ever in a club and you see a girl holding one and looking slightly pissed off with it, it will probably be me as me and the guitarist in my band tend to go out straight after band practise and I can't go home first. *Doh* Hence me also having to take it to Strange Fruit on Saturday night and hide it under a pile of coats and keep checking it occasionally to see that no one had taken a fancy to it. Saying that....it was fun though. A certain Struan Murdoch was there with a certain band called Camera Obscura (The lead singer is his girlfriend I think...well...they seemed to be getting it on rather a lot anyway). That boy sure can dance and so can the girly from Camera Obscura too. In fact, that whole band are bloody good dancers. One of their membership can breakdance and he did it in the middle of the dance floor towards the end of the night to much whooping. I wish I could spin on my head :-( He seemed quite impressed when I told him he should be enter the "B-Boy Championships" at Brixton Academy. You never know, there could be a niche in the market for twee breakdancing. You could have puffer-cardigans resplendent with the right amount of "bling-bling" jewellry. That Struan is a right little thief though. After coming to the realisation that the bar staff were no longer guarding the bar after about 2 AM I saw him run over to the taps, give a shifty look around the corner to make sure that the bouncers wouldn't catch him and beat the shit out of him and then lean over, grab a pint glass and pour a pint right out of the tap and scamper off with a wee grin. I think he was copying my friend though who did it first....still, it was amusing. And then me and my friends all went to Primrose Hill to watch the sunrise over London. It was beautiful (if amazingly cold!) to watch all the buildings emerging from the mist as if they were all playing games of hide and seek and only came out during the day to play at being tourist attractions. We all held hands to protect each other from the cold and told silly stories about Philosophy and people we knew and things we'd done and the joggers looked at us strangely as if they'd never seen three kids resplendent in fur lined coats, ski-jackets, cords, fishnets and flicked eyeliner before. We heard the dawn chorus of exotic birds who sounded like fire alarms bidding the morning hello and dogs being walked by bleary eyed owners seemed to take a liking to Matt, laying their heads on his lap and leaving a trail of viscous drool on his cords. After losing all feeling in all parts of our bodies, we went to the Russian tea rooms for breakfast and hot chocolate where Matt and Marianne tried to make me practise my Russian on the staff (Bear in mind I only know about twenty words and would only have been able to order soup and tea...not even being able to say "I would like..." beforehand the words either, just merely "Tea and Soup please!") who were all real Russians and not like the ones you get in Bond films or out of packets. I think it was the 'Chu who mentioned having a UK-wide Sinister day of Bowling. Sounds like a good idea, so I'll put my Manchester Picnic-Mum extraordinaire hat on and say Anyone fancy a day of bowling and DDR in Manchester? There's a bowling alley near where I live and if you avoid the Scallies, it could be quite fun. If not that, then we can just all go and get pissed :D As well as this...my penchant for mis-hearing lyrics was brought to the fore by Carsmile Steve mentioning that he misheard "The centre of my so-called beingness" in "My Wandering Days are over" as "The centre of my so-called Penis." Dammit. And I'd been singing that for nearly four years too with lots of nice imagery to go along with it. I'll never get used to the new lyrics, even if I will have the piss taken out of me by all the people who think they know better. Oh well. So I leave with hugs and high-fives as always to:- Boog-a-loo Ben Apps, Rachel Fruitloop (You go you crazy kids! Remember my Tootsie Rolls!), Matt, Thom who lives in my halls (You know who you are! Did you the note me and Marianne slipped under your door? *giggle*, da Chu, Dancing Hatchback, the lovely Miss Hannah Brown, My fellow Chris in Crime (The Mix tape challenge is stil ON! Send me your ideas and we'll get our freak on) John-John and anyone else I may have missed. *Whew* Love and Clarinets Cay Cola-Cube xXx P.S. There are signs around London which say "Your Mum phoned....Chu" I think someone is trying to tell you something Ken. "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your Revolution..." -Emma Goldman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dangerous_mike at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 14:44:51 2001 From: dangerous_mike at xxx.com (Michael Grant) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:44:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hello + a little story. Message-ID: hello. ive been a lurker for quite a while now, and ive been searching for the right way to start my end of this sinister relationship. ive been reading in awe some of the hilarious and touching posts thinking how anything i write will just be silly. i didnt want to just say "hey! im new!" i thought id wait until i had something decent to say, but this wait has gone on for months and months now. ive managed to even meet someone through the list (*waves at idleberry*) so i thought i really should start posting. anyway, i was writing this story for a friend and i thought it seemed like a good thing to have as an opening post. please be kind to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Once there was a Boy. He knew this Other Boy. They were great friends. The best thing about their friendship was that they were so similar, they always sort of knew what the other was thinking. This made the Boy happy. He and the Other Boy had never really got to spend time together and get to know each other really well over the years. The Other Boy was older and in a higher year at school and they tended to hang around with different people, but the Boy always kinda knew that there was something special about the Other Boy. He hoped that the Other Boy felt the same, and he kinda knew he did, cos they were so similar. They weren�t �doing it�, they were just good friends, but when they would go out together people often thought that they were a couple. This made the two boys laugh. The Boy�s other best friends were girls. His close friends who were guys were often slightly distant. The Boy had always yearned for a close male friend, and it frustrated him that him and the Boy were so similar but never got the chance to pursue their friendship. The Other Boy was the one person who the Boy really felt he could talk to about anything, but for some reason, he often didn�t. He didn�t really speak to anyone much of the time. He ended up sorting things out on his own. He wished he were more like the Other Boy. He didn�t want to be him, he knew you should never want to be someone else, and he was happy with who he was, but he knew the Other Boy was simply lovely. He was so kind and sweet and sensitive and modest. Those were the things he really liked about the Other Boy. Another thing he especially liked was that the Other Boy could always make him laugh. The Other Boy, even though he was so sensitive and kind, was the funniest Boy the Boy had ever met. He could be silly and funny, or smart and funny, but he had this talent to make the Boy wet himself on the spot. The Boy really liked that about the Other Boy. He thought more people should be able to make people laugh like that. It�s a great quality to have. The Boy thought he had a bit of that quality as well. That�s why it was the sensitive, modest qualities of the Other Boy that he admired so much. They were both clever, and funny, and they liked the same kind of things, but the Boy wished he could have a few more of those things that made them different. He thought he was too brash, and arrogant, and he could get on people�s nerves. This never happened to the Other Boy. Everyone who knew him liked him. If they knew him well they loved him. He was an easily loveable Boy. It wasn�t that the Boy wasn�t popular. People did like him, but he always wanted to be a bit more like the Other Boy. The Boy didn�t think the Other Boy was perfect, but he wasn�t far off. He loved the Boy with all his heart, and although he could almost always tell that the Other Boy thought the same as him, he wasn�t sure about this thing. He didn�t love the Other Boy in �that� way, purely as friends, but he loved the Other Boy as a friend completely and utterly. He would have done anything for the Other Boy, but he couldn�t tell him that. He didn�t know how. Their bond was very much one borne out of faith in their similarities, and maybe because they hadn�t spent that much time together over the years and had only recently started to see each other more, he didn�t know how he could talk to the Other Boy about this. So he decided to write a letter to the Other Boy, and to write in the third person to be really clever. He hoped that the Other Boy would see this for what is was; a simple story of a Boy and his friend, a friend who meant so much to the Boy, that he didn�t know how to say it to his face. He also hoped that this wouldn�t scare the Other Boy, but that he would think about it, and reply however he wanted. All he wanted was for the Other Boy to know how much their friendship meant to the Boy, and that he loved him very much. --------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks for reading this. id be glad to hear what anyone thinks. b&s content - i like the new single, but i do think i am blinkered, and will buy and love almost anything they ever release. (altho when they get to the "2step-garage-crossover-album" phase, i might just be tempted to say byebye!) i think that ilovemycar is one of the best songs theyve ever done. its just fantastic. its a song you just have to dance to. i dare anyone to walk down the street listening to that, and not start dancing wildly. thanks again, michael.xx ps - is anyone interested in having either a pre-QMU meet-up or a glasgow xmas bowling trip? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mental_sarah at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 15:08:48 2001 From: mental_sarah at xxx.com (sarah dorman) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:08:48 Subject: Sinister: Softer than her face would suggest... Message-ID: hi everyone, i'm new here. well sort of. i've used #sinister for over a year..so quite a few of you will know me. i've also been on the list for a couple of months now. i've finally been inspired to post through boredom and the avoidance of work...so.... i went to see camera obscura in london on saturday. very nice. very full. expensive drinks. noisy people. seeing old friends..being introduced to lots of new people(namely the strange fruit posse). about the bassist looking like a bouncer...hmm...not particularly...sweet and nice is he...maybe a polar bear but a bouncer? never! i'm going to see b+s in the qm (and maybe in belfast too). it should be great fun..especially if they take requests. sarah xo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lolamonnet at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 17:57:37 2001 From: lolamonnet at xxx.com (Lola Monnet) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:57:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a flashback Message-ID: hello. once there were two boys in my school, david and leon. there were other boys too, but i always ended up looking at the two boys, maybe i am intrigued by them because they never seemed to change, at least for a while. david always wore buttoned shirts and had neatly divided hair, he played with the loud boys in the school. i noticed that everytime the loud boys sat down at lunchtime david was always the one who was sitting near the middle of the group, but he never spoke a lot of the time. leon used to always sit alone and away from the loud boys, leon had very messy hair but it was strange because it looked the exactly the same every day, he wore t-shirts and jeans. he always had a book with him, other girls sometimes walked past him and said "what a nerd" and giggled and walked away. and he would just blush. i think the two boys had found out about me looking at them too, leon used to sometimes gaze at me and when i looked at towards his direction he would blush and then looked down at his food. david was always looking away from me, but one time i spied on him by turning my head away, but turned my eyes back to see him and i saw that he was looking at me. but when i turn my head back he quickly turned away again and pretended to read the clock on the wall. one day in the drawer of my desk i found a piece of paper and it had a poem on it, it was a love poem. i didn't know what to do because i had never received a poem before, and it didn't have a name on it. the confusion carried on for days, so on a wednesday i wrote on two pieces of paper "the best place for a poet is the apple tree, 4:00 is the poet's time", and placed them into david and leon's drawers when no one were looking. whoever wrote the poem was going to appear. at 4:00 i hid behind a wall looking at the apple tree, and the person who appeared was leon, who picked an apple there and started eating it, i didn't go up to him, i just stood behind the wall and watched, leon stood there for 15 minutes before walking away, and threw the apple into the bin. i couldn't go to bed that night, i didn't know what to do when a boy writes me a poem, and also now i had made him stand in the apple tree for 15 minutes. i wrote a letter that night. the next day i have in my bag a letter, that i placed later into a boy's drawer. during lunchtime i overheard a girl saying to another girl "a boy just put a poem into my drawer", and started reading this poem which i have read before. it was the same one that leon wrote for me. at 4:00 near the apple tree i asked the boy "why do you always play with the loud boys, you seem so quiet", he told me that they were his friends, even when they're loud. he taught me something i never knew, i think. they both did. after a moment of slience david walked away. he didn't come back to school the next day. and not the next week either. i never saw him again. i never looked at leon again. lola. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 18:58:24 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:58:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Crappy Fold-up binoculars, Christmas, Panicking and Indie Message-ID: <20011210191652.IVCF27606.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.90.220]> Well, I was today called an Indiekid. I was not sure whether this was a good thing or a bad ne, but at leat it was better than being called a Goth. Eeeek! Noooooooo! you scream realising that this will be another of Joe'e annoyingly long and offending/apologetic Goth posts. But it isn't. There is though, a small section on goths after which I promise never to mention them except incidentally in a post again, so you can skip the little decorative bit if you don't want to read about them. Or read the next post, whatever. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^Goth bit*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Last word on Goths: Yes, okay, Goths are goths and there you go. I agree, the points I listed are not exclusive to Goths, thy apply to lots of other people and there are obviously goths who are exceptions. I Accept everything and will shut up now. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^End of Goth Bit ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Other things that have happened: I have found out who I will be giving presents to on the Christmas exchange.. Must hurry to do them, but it is v.difficult to think of things for people you have never met. At least one of them will be getting a mixtape. I was also thinking of giving someone a nice record, but that's difficult too. Another idea is going to the bead shop and making someone a bracelet. Which is cheap to post, too. Records are cool, I have decided. One day, I want my mum to buy a record player, something she wants to do, but the problem is that she wants a 78rpm one so she can play all my grandfather'd old records. But she can't find one. I want her to buy one so that then I can buy some great big heavy vinyl ones and struggle to lift them up onto the turntable. I wouldn't buy many vinyl ones but I would like being able to buy records as oppossed to CDs. The sleeves are bigger, for a start. And you can feel all elitist (sp?), too. Indiekid-ish feelings, I'll give you but it would be fun. I fanyone has an old record player they want to give me, please do. It doesn't matter to much about the 78rpm thing for me. I think I might just have one vinyl record, I'm not sure what it would be, though. Also, someone mentioned where nu-metal people get their unfeasibly wide trousers from. I want to know this too, because of late, I have found that what I really want in life is a pair of enormous red corduroy flares. Shameful, but I'm shallow like that. Kieran Devaney talked about speech night. At my school, there is something similar called speech day. Everyone has to wear clean shirts etc. etc. and it goes on for some time. By the end, your hands are quite sore with clapping. We had Rory Bremner as a special guest last year. He just repeated some jokes off his show and scarpered, leaving before I could jump up and get him to sign some bit of paper. Disappointing. I liked that post. Apart from the bit about Jeanette Winterson, who is the most abrasive and disagreeable author I can think of offhand. She writes in an irritating way and just takes herself far too seriously while generally being pretentious. And being a total bitch. That was a long post, but I haven't written to you people for a week or something so I felt it justified. !Viva Rachels! Joe and Rachel. Vester and Pancake. P.S. Rachel Pancake is a lovely person and you should all write her love letters. But she likes it when they are addressed to me and talk about me and are from girls. She also likes crush votes from girls. But she just likes them on behalf of me, not because she's a lesbian. So, if you want to please Rachel Pancake, Crush me. P.P.S.Don't marry him, Crush me! P.P.P.S. Subliminal *Crush me* Messaging. P.P.P.P.S. See how Crush me is lined up. Subtle, huh? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Mon Dec 10 20:19:55 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:19:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: free b&s stuff! Message-ID: <200112102019.fBAKJtM18578@mail.redbricks.org.uk> i'm not sure if this counts as list abuse, if so i'm sorry :-( but anyway there is an indie night on tomorrow at the phoenix on oxford road in manchester. There is a raffle for the b&s back catalogue (which i would expect we all have), signed by the band - or at least some of them (which i doubt we all have - well i don't anyway). there's a few other things to win as well, but i'm not sure what they are. fiona (if she's reading) knows, maybe she could say. if there are any other listees that decide to go, maybe we could meet up. not sure what i'll be wearing yet, so no descriptions available but i hope to be wearing my space hopper t-shirt, if its clean :-) anyway i'll check my mail tomorrow before i go. hope to hear from at least some of you! antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daniel.cederberg at xxx.se Mon Dec 10 20:41:50 2001 From: daniel.cederberg at xxx.se (Daniel Cederberg) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:41:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New Orleans, LA, USA Message-ID: <001b01c181bb$17f0a980$8f3364d5@swipnet.se> Hello everyone! I´m packing my bags and leaving for a two month stay in New Orleans (in february) and i´m just wondering if there are any good indieclubs (someplace they play B&S and you have enough room to dance to it) in that jazzing city? Any cool hangouts/café´s where you can meet nice tweeish people? Thankful for any and all suggestions and info. Cheers, Daniel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 21:06:45 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:06:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Today I wrote 'Internet Love Gone Awry' on a desk in school. Such things appeal to my sense of humour, though I doubt anyone else gets it � I remember at the end of last year, the school organised this 2 day business course for us all, the premise being that various business type people came into school and told us all about marketing and designing and management and so on and then we used the skills they had taught us in a mini project of our own. Our project was making a mug, and my own design (rather ironically) stated �I *heart* Ayia Napa�, my friend saw it and fell about laughing, not at my rapier wit and cool sense of irony, but because he thought someone had seriously designed a mug like that because they loved Ayia Napa. I wonder what it�d be like to be an indie kid in Ayia Napa; terrible I imagine � but there must be some. Anyway, I�m digressing. I wrote �Internet Love Gone Awry� with a similar sense of irony obvious only to myself, I�m getting quite addicted to scrawling odd things on school desks, I do it in pencil so it can be gotten rid of easily enough, or replaced � and I live in hope of the day when some lovely band title their lovely album after a piece of my own pencilled graffiti. I know one internet couple, they met on the internet and live a fair distance apart, but I don�t think they�re right for eachother at all. They are meeting in person soon and I fear the worst, but perhaps they�ll prove me wrong and live happily ever after. Stranger things have happened, and sometimes being proven wrong is the best thing that can happen for everyone, not very often though. It�s boring when people you only vaguely know talk about relationships between people that they only vaguely know isn�t it? I�ll shut up about it now. The school I go to is unfortunately located in a rather violent area of town. If you are a fan of football then you�ll be pleased to know it�s within walking distance of the Aston Villa ground, snappily called �Villa Park� and if you are a fan of HP sauce you�ll be happy to know it�s within walking distance of the HP sauce factory � in fact you can smell the sauce when you get off the bus if the wind is blowing in the right direction. An idyllic scene you may think. Well not really, because earlier on in the year there had been quite a lot of muggings on one particular route to school (not the route I normally use happily, the only time I�ve ever heard of anyone being threatened there was my friend Naz, in the first year who had his wellies stolen � but that was ages ago, and a funny rather than scary story). However, after over zealous parents coupled with a dictatorial headmaster and a police force concerned with figures and the aesthetics of policing rather than actually catching criminals, disaster ensued! �Not disaster!� I hear you cry, well yes, disaster I�m afraid. The police and the headmaster agreed that people should no longer use the routes where there had been muggings, and a �Safe Route� was planned. This safe route would then be patrolled by smiling bobbies before school and in the evenings, and nobody would get mugged. �But didn�t you say disaster ensued?� I heard you cry again �This doesn�t look like much of a disaster to me!� well let me temper your haste and explain a bit more. The thing with this �Safe Route� is that firstly it isn�t safe. The police seem to think that just saying that they will patrol it makes it safe. It doesn�t. And now the would-be muggers know where to find everyone. So there have been two muggings in the two weeks the safe route has been operational on the safe route. That�s more, statistically speaking (and I�m no mathematician) than there ever was before. Also, the route is longer than any other route to school, since the subways which go under the Aston expressway are out of bounds � this bit is the only part of the route the police patrol, they guard the subway entrance. This seems silly to me for a couple of reasons � firstly, since we�re not allowed to use the subways; we now have to cross the expressway somewhere else. Far more people die as a result of road accidents every year than do of muggings (incidentally � have you ever seen someone being hit by a car, I have; it was quite traumatic actually, I had nightmares for weeks. Luckily the kid that I saw being hit escaped relatively unscathed). So because you have to go around the subways and then cross the road further down, the route is much longer; wouldn�t it make sense to choose the shortest possible route to the school, because then it would take less policing? Well evidently not. The reason I mention it (it�s not just because I�m in the mood for a rant) is that I used this �Safe Route� today; this was because I came through town to school. Why did I come through town? Well, if you are an upper sixth former at the school I go to, one of the things you have to do is prefect duty, which more or less entails standing in a doorway in the cold pretending to make sure nobody goes inside - that�s how I do it anyway. Unfortunately this years prefect rota has me doing a duty before school on a Monday morning, which isn�t very pleasant at all, especially in the cold weather like now. If I travel to school through town I can get to school pretty much just as the bell is ringing (a little after actually, because of the stupid safe route), and avoid the duty. So that�s why. If you come through town to school you have to use the safe route now, so I did. Nothing happened, but I fully experienced the silliness that happens when police and headmasters combine. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Do you know what happens if the police catch you taking on of the quicker, alternative routes to school? They take your name and report you to the headmaster, who puts you in detention. It all seems rather unfair doesn�t it? It is. The other day my friend and I went to town during school time (which in itself is against the rules), to buy strokes tickets (I�m not much of a fan to be honest, but anyone who is anyone will be there so it should be a good night out). After we bought the tickets, my friend stayed in town (he had frees for the rest of the day), but I had to get back for double English. Not only was I unnecessarily nervous walking back from the bus stop to school on my own, because of the culture of fear created by this police intervention in our travelling to and from school, but it also occurred to me that I�d rather be stopped by a mugger than by the police at that time � other than the strokes ticket which was hidden in my French book I only had about �1 on me. If I was stopped by a mugger I�d have to give them the pound, but I could then move on. If it was the police then not only would I be reported for being out of school during school time, but if I was caught using the subway (as I did) then they�d report me for not using the �safe route� as well. Oh the tribulations of school life. But still, it�ll all be over in under a years time. I realise this lengthy diatribe wont be of much interest to anyone except myself, but it�s catharsis you know? Letting it all out. If you email me and ask nicely I�ll send you a token reimbursing however much time you have wasted reading all that. If I had something of interest to say about belle and sebastian then I would, believe me. But my numerous attempts to woo friends with the bands multitudinous charms have yielded little. Most disappointing. Peace and love - Kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 21:34:38 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:34:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fellow Skeletons, etc. Message-ID: Imagine my surprise when I found out that another boy dressed like a skeleton and danced around at his friends' band's performance. I thought I was the only one. I just have a mask though, no bone suit or anything. And I dance the whole time, not during when they play. Only my friends' band is called Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine. And they are quite good. (http://www.xvpopdmx.cjb.net) At least, I think they're fun. The real reason I posted was for a bit of a holiday present for all of you that play your guitars in the E flat tuning like myself. A transcription of B&S's cover of O Come O Come Emmanuel, for your strumming pleasure. It's in E flat, so if you play standard, just move it back a fret. You'll get the hang of it. The timing is unusual, too. Verse: D#min O Come O Come Emmanuel Gmin Dmin And ransom captive Israel Gmin C That mourns in lovely exile here A# F Until the Son of God appear. Refrain: F Rejoice, rejoice- Gmin Dmin Gmin Dmin Emmanuel shall come to thee O Israel. O come o come great Lord of Might, Who to thy tribes on Sinai's height. In ancient clouds once gave the law in cloud and majesty and awe. Refrain. O come thou day spring(?) come and cheer Our spirits by thine advent here; Disperse the gloomy clouds of night And death's dark shadows put to flight. Refrain. O come thou key of David come (Pause with chords) And open wide our (resume) heavenly home Make safe the way that leads on high, and close the path to misery. Refrain. Dmin O come Emmanuel, A# F and ransom captive Israel, Gmin C that mourns in lonely exile here A# F until the Son of God appear. Refrain. p.s. I am looking to spend the holidays in Japan with a friend. Can anyone recommend any hostels or regions to visit? I've been once before, but it would be cool to get an insider's recommendation. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougalshaw at xxx.com Mon Dec 10 22:16:53 2001 From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:16:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the b&s set list Message-ID: Now that new gigs are coming up in Glasgow, I'm reminded of the most ingenious feature of the shows on the last tour. The band saw fit to intersperse Isobel Campbell's songs throughout the band's set. The result: convenient toilet breaks, or a chance to re-visit the bar. On the Isobel note, a friend of a friend says she is recording a solo album in Glasgow at the moment. Apparently she visibly wears a G-string to work: a nice visual counterpoint to that sweet, rasping, innocent voice. I'm currently trying to hire (or perhaps sew for myself) a fox outfit to wear to the Glasgow concert. (Well someone went as the Major in the last Glasgow gig...)If it snows (which is not unlikely)that would be a massive coup de theatre, and I'll be the belle of the ball. On a practical level it would also keep me pretty warm. On a less practical level it would almost certanly get me beaten up as I scurry back through Glasgow. And knowing my luck I'd probably get lost and turn up at a 'So Solid Crew' gig, or a fox-hunting rally... On a bitter note, why aren't they playing Edinburgh? It just seems vindictive now. They've made their point, Glasgow's miles better, ok we agree: it's time they played the capital of their home country. dougal _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Dec 10 23:38:20 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:38:20 Subject: Sinister: Softer than her face would suggest... Message-ID: <205698439@spray.se> Christina wrote: "Saying that....it was fun though. A certain Struan Murdoch was there with a certain band called Camera Obscura (The lead singer is his girlfriend I think...well...they seemed to be getting it on rather a lot anyway). That boy sure can dance and so can the girly from Camera Obscura too." And this, I must deny. Of course, I was not there, even though I really wanted to, but I *do* live in Sweden :) Anyway, I thought it was a known fact that Struan had been in.. er.. celibacy for ages.. that he, er, stopped believing in love.. yes.. stopped believing in love. I though that you all knew that when we meet (it´s not if, it´s when in my head) he´ll fall in love with me and say that I am the girl of his dreams and that he wants to be with me forever and forever and then we could live happily together forever, we could start playing music together and everyone would think that we were grate and then when we got married the whole of sinister would be invited to witness it, because you are all such marvellous people. Well, better phone Murdoch and ask him if he would like to send out the invitations early, and what music we are settling for... Oh, I just remembered. It´s not reality, it won´t happen, and I don´t think that I really would marry a man 18 years older than I. Or would I? (Wait, don´t answer that!) I guess It´s time to realise that Monesieur Murdoch probably never will get to know the.. er.. what were the good sides of me again? Do I actually have any other sides than being paranoid/ being stupid/ being lazy? Sorry, this has gone more out of hand than usual. But remember, I am fifteen, I´m supposed to be like this. Or am I? No, wait, i don´t want the answer that question either.. Love and stars, Astrid x P.S. I got a new duvet today. I think it´s called that in english, I´m not sure. The kind of blanket you have in bed, eh. My room is scarely cold at night so this may mean that I actually won´t wake up and shiver in the middle of the night anymore. Hahaa. Hmm. True. P.P.S Today on the bus I saw, possibly, the most beautiful boy I´ve ever seen. We gave eachother some shy and nervous glances, and then I had to go. Just when I was ready to get off the bus, I really looked at him and he was really looking me in the eyes, and he smiled. And I just smiled back, looked down at my feet and went off the bus. I wish I was cool. Maybe then I´d had the courage to say something. P.P.P.S For all of you who saw "tillsammans" or "together" as it was called out of Sweden, it might be in your interest to know that this year´s annual dramatized christmascalenderstory on tv has the little cute boy who says "Bloody fascist!" to the boy who say that he is wearing girlshoes have the leading role, and can I say, IS THERE A CUTER KID? I want to adopt him or something. And then, the gay guy with the blonde hair with a fringe, is the narrator. P.P.P.P.S I´´m awfully sorry for this post. i will now go to my room and hide in my bed under my new fluffy bedblanked,duvet, what the hell. I´m going to HIDE. Ah, i am so embarrassing. But I´ve been writing for more than 15 minutes now so i feel that it is my duty to send out a dull e-mail that you with relief will delete from your inbox.. _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougiefish at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 04:58:31 2001 From: dougiefish at xxx.com (erin) Date: 11 Dec 2001 04:58:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: curses, foiled again! Message-ID: <20011211045831.4542.qmail@meowmix.chek.com> As I am one of the great un-religioned masses, I had to become a missionary for someone other than Christ. I chose Belle & Sebastian. I must be the world's most unpersuasive missionary, however, as my last attempt ended not in making the boy a fan of B&S, but rather making him an enormous fan of �Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It� and the idiosyncratic line �You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear...� I did, however, try my very best, and perhaps the fact that he adores �Carriage Clock� possibly more than his �Horowitz plays Chopin sonatas� CD (which is saying quite a lot for this particular boy) is reward enough. I came home on Friday to find someone new living in my room. All I asked for Christmas was a new roommate who likes good music. I don�t know what I�ve done this year that was so unspeakably heinous, but I got a roommate who listens to nothing but rap and owns an incredible amount of shoes. No, quite literally -- they�re all neatly lined up in several rows, Imelda-Marcos-style, under her bed. She owns the same white pair of Adidas with two colored stripes on the side in six colors alone (1 pair = $50 [on sale] 6 pairs = $300 -- *for the SAME shoe!*). If a riot ever broke out in the dorm, we could ride it out behind a make-shift bunker of roommate-shoes. Or, more likely, if we come close to killing each other, she may come home to find a wall of shoes neatly cemented down the the center of the room. Kieran mentioned getting hit by cars. I have been -- in a crosswalk, as a pedestrian, with a green light, in a school zone, at 8 am. It still bothers me that *I* was blamed for it by the CHP (figure that one out). It does, however, make a pretty good party story, but mostly only because I wasn�t hurt seriously. ...So there�s no Belle & Sebastian content here... or much content in general, but I needed a reprieve from finals and my as-yet-unfinished, due-tomorrow-morning sociology paper. I shall returning to lurking after wishing you all a happy holiday -- So Happy Hollandaise, Everyone! ` erin _____________________________________________________________ Are you lazy? Get your Free E-mail at http://www.Lazymail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue Dec 11 11:13:37 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:13:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: dolly rockers ... Message-ID: <012901c18234$eea9cbe0$9426fea9@katrina> hello all just to say that we have a **NEW** tshirt design at the shop, i think it has to be my favourite ever - yes it's even better than the 'study at stow' masterpiece from a few years back! it was designed by marc baines, a long time friend of the band and is a caricature-type picture of all eight band members as those russian doll thingys. my description isn't very good so you'll have to see it to believe it ... we will be selling merchie at the glasgow & belfast shows, but to those i won't see there - i wish you all a merry christmas :) cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 12:00:52 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:00:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Top 2 Princesses Message-ID: As I lounge elegantly in my green bath robe and seductively smoke Sovereign Lights (for non UK people: cheap scummy cigrettes), the delicate light from the 60 watt bulb of the bedside lamp (yes, I know it's 11.35 am and I should really open the curtains) casting flattering shadows on my finely sculpted cheekbones, I trawl the Sinister archives for fun and frolics. I now know why we all called a legion of bedroom saddo devotees. I read the funniest email in the world... EVER (part 7) written by Honey. Tears rolled down my cheeks and the housemate hastily revised her opinion of me from "odd" to "mad as a bucket". Also, there was a lot of smut back in those days. I only subscribed to the list in March this year, and I fear I may have missed my chance to swap mittens for sexual favours, or whatever the sinister kids did back in the day. Speaking of Honey, which I was, sort of, did you know she's now in my top two favourite Princesses of all time list? My other favourite all time Princess is Princess Madeleine of Sweden. I love her, although we have never met, of course. The reason I love her? It's because of her that my housemate (the nice one) calls me Princess Madeleine. I used to think it was because he saw me as something of a prima donna (first lady? Pah!) but now everything is clear and thanks to the original Princess Madeleine, I love my housemate more than ever and things are happy and harmonious chez nous. Christmas coming, fat geese, goodwill, etc. I can now listen to my "It's a Cool Cool Christmas" cd again. Isobel is at her asthmatic hamster best in O Come O Come Emmanuel, I think. I can also tangle myself up in fairy lights (I occasionally do this for fun, but we shall not speak of it) and battle with sellotape and wrapping paper. My signature scent is now marmite and clementines (instead of just marmite as it is during the rest of the year. Although some people would argue with that and say I taste of beer and cigarettes). I have already given in to my selfish needs and opened a present I bought for my sister and played with it myself. One of the worst things about getting old is looking forward to Christmas because it means a rest, rather than it meaning food! and presents! and more food! Maybe I'll turn into one of those evil people like my parents who spend hours and hours faffing about on Christmas morning doing nonessential things like eating and getting dressed and claim they're "savouring the day". If I'm not careful I'll start getting up and opening the curtains before noon too. Then where will the madness end? I have desperately tried to think of content for this post. I love B&S. They make my heart melt, make me feel as if I'm wrapped in a duvet, or standing on top of a mountain with a bracing wind blowing into my face, or like I'm soaking in a hot spring in Iceland or like I'm eating all the mince pies in the world without gaining any weight or feeling sick. Favourite song of the moment is "Miraculous Technique" I think. I listen to it on the way to work and it (almost) makes everything perfect. I say almost because I'm still me and I still have to go to work and there's still a crust of toothpaste in the corner of my mouth, so it's not entirely perfect, is it? I'm hoping to meet some of you soon, you know who you are. I'm much looking forward to it. Don't forget to save your pennies between now and then so you can take me out and treat me like a princess. Three pints and a bag of chips should do it. Bulk smut, Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 12:47:13 2001 From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (James Alexander Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:47:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: White Noise, Belfast, Soul Music References: Message-ID: <000e01c18242$0bd1dd40$1f9c87d9@heyjupiter> Hello! sorry for lurking for so long, but I'd thought I'd best say something about the 'meeting after Belfast gig' idea, which is very good by the way. The Dirty Vicar, bless his robes, said about going to the Botanic, or the Menagerie. Now, since i used to be a student in Belfy, i know the Bot is pretty good, but might be packed after the gig. Not sure about the Menagerie, as I've never been, but the Eglantine, Dukes, Renshaws, and indeed the Union are quite good. There's also a wee place off Botanic called the Fly which used to do Jazz and soul like wot you could dance to, but I'm not sure if it does that anymore; it looks suspiciously trendy. Does this count as b&s content then? Not sure I can handle it! :) Let's all meet up though, it'd be nice to meet other sinister types and talk about what the boy Chu's been up to. Well, sorry if I've bored anyone this doesn't relate to! oh, and if i can waffle on a bit longer, wasn't Laura Llews last post strikingly familiar to actual posting experience? I had little shivers down my spine! Anybody know what Bright Eyes song she was talking about was? Well, thanks for all your time... Sir James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From booga14 at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 13:41:11 2001 From: booga14 at xxx.com ('Baby face' Bambino) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:41:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: White Noise, Belfast, Soul Music Message-ID: Hey James and other Belfast concert attending sinisterians, I think the Dirty Vicar was talking about Botanic Park... not the Botanic night club. Because the Botanic night club sucks warm sick through a short straw. Playing S club 7, chart dance music, poedophile boy band music and whatever novelty 'cartoonies type' singles that happen to be in the charts that week. The Eglantine is just as bad if not worse. The Fly has a very strict dress code and sucks shit also. Dukes and Renshaws are OK but they're just hotel bars and may be lacking in atmosphere. I've been away from Belfast for about a year so I'm probably not the best person to suggest a place to go. However, the Limelight, Auntie Annies and the Menagerie used to be very good. Are Belfast boys, Daragh and Ian 'the gibber' Mc Kinney still on the list? Some enlightenment, please. Not long now (woohoo!), Tim PS. I hadn't intended to post this message to sinister but the thought of any sinisterians inadvertendtly ending up in the Bot, the Eg or the Fly was just too horrific *************************************************************************************** 'Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.' from Catch 22 by Joseph Heller (1923-1999) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 13:47:18 2001 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:47:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: bowling a maiden over Message-ID: incidence of the word 'sex' and its cognates in the following post: 3 incidence of the word 'pornographic': 1 incidence of the word 'dirty': 1 incidence of the word 'twat': 1 my first post in my alternate identity of a real working person, joining the massed ranks of skiving dogsbodies posting from the far edge of boredom. i feel guilty already. so much has happened on sinister lately, passing by in front of my eyes as i sit at my little desk and point shy foreign students in the direction of grammar books and non-pornographic websites. i can't remember half the things i wanted to respond to. but has anyone else noticed that although ken chu gets mentioned in nearly every post, and never in less than glowing terms, he still complains about no-one loving him? some people don't know they're born. (which always struck me as a bizarre expression, but i feel i should use it.) or is it just that cyber-adoration doesn't translate into real-life begging for sex? in which case he deserves our sympathy, of course :) despite ken's obvious personality disorder, i like his idea of going bowling over the festive season. the big lebowski makes it quite clear that it's the slacker's sport of choice, and therefore especially appealing to lazy post-slackers such as myself. however, there's still far too much potential for making a twat of yourself. you know how when you bowl properly you sort of stick your leg out behind you in that particular way - just looking at that move makes me despair. some of you, unfortunately, have seen me dancing (and so you all know i'm soft) and therefore also know that i have the grace and co-ordination of a dead camel. so, i can't go bowling. or not until i've signed up for the exciting new 'street dance workout' offered by the sports centre at this noble university. i'm sure that once i've had a few sessions, you won't be able to get me away (i'm dying) from the ddr machine. so look out, sex-starved young men from milton keynes... the peerless princess madeleine wrote: "and I fear I may have missed my chance to swap mittens for sexual favours, or whatever the sinister kids did back in the day." it was scarves, actually - an initiative spearheaded by myself and jenowl if memory serves. and i've just got a new lot of wool from my gran... while i was at my gran's house i also trawled through the old children's books and 7 inch records in her spare room, coming back with joan aiken, ursula le guin, brambley hedge, aretha franklin, dusty springfield and donovan. listening to the b-side of 'atlantis' by the latter was SPOOKY - it's called 'i love my shirt' and is the exact same sort of hurdy gurdy whimsy as 'i love my car'. someone else pointed out that stuart's odd new singing voice is actually in a donovan style. this can't be a coincidence, surely? speaking of the new single, idleberry *really* doesn't like it, huh? glad to see strong opinions, sensibly expressed, on the list again - but surely, m'lud, some leniency for marx and engels? in all fairness, b&s produced worse than that (or more mediocre if you like) even in their supposed golden age. i'm never too happy about suggesting a straight downward trajectory in the work of any band, anyway - it's hardly ever that simple. callow mistakes can darken the most glorious debut, while moments of brilliance might still appear in the most limping, decrepit effort. or to put it another way, marx and engels is better than, say, modern rock song. or the boy done wrong again. or rollercoaster ride. or (obviously) before the sunrise. um, so there. oh look, i've wasted a whole hour. better go and assist some resources. (hi liz!) !viva rachels (though i'm having an identity crisis now our name has been taken in vain - lucky i'm really an archel, a very different thing i assure you.) luv archel xxx ps. sorry astrid - struan's definitely taken. he mentioned his girlfriend when he emailed me (perhaps to stop me getting any funny ideas?) ps. i *would* crush on you, rachel pancake, but i'd feel like a dirty old woman :) ******************* Rachel Playforth Resources Assistant Sussex Language Institute University of Sussex Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QN ++44 (0)1273 678006 ******************* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 14:19:42 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:19:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: All I want for Christmas is a list crush vote... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC05905E@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> ...or failing that, I'll settle for some mad, passionate lovemaking. Ken need not apply. Those new T-shirts look quite fabulous, so if anyone fancies being kind to me this Christmas... I'm not sure how lifelike the pictures of the band members are though - for one thing, Richard isn't gurning enough for him to be playing the drums, and I'm sure a few people here would question whether a couple of band members would fit inside each other... Meanwhile, Madeleine (whose name I still haven't figured out how to spell without looking it up) mentioned the joys of the archives. And it's amazing how little has changed over the last 4 years (apart from a decline in the amount of smut - where is Archel when you need her?). Although if you go waaaaay back to the first month of Sinister, you'll find an intense discussion about whether B&S will ever get to be as big a band as The Cardigans (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199708/msg00130.html). Yes, really. Other favourite topics at the time included asking repeatedly why the band wouldn't release Tigermilk / Modern Rock Song / Loneliness of a Middle-Distance Runner; and whether Elvis was a cat, a dog or a sprig of broccoli. Aah, the good old days. It's also an exercise in spotting the people who, 4 years later, still haven't found anything better to do with their life. Okay, list abuse time (hey, I don't do it much. Well okay, I do. Never mind eh?). Anyone know how easy it is to get from Florida (where I'm going for a conference in May) to anywhere nice and worth travelling around, eg Mexico / Cuba? Not sure if I'll be able to afford to do a bit of travelling or not, but I'm hoping... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Tue Dec 11 14:36:58 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:36:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: super furry single translations Message-ID: it's been a while since my last post to the list. many things have happened. amongst others: the new single is here. it's been called great by some, and absolute shit by others. i tend to agree with the others. when i first played jonathan david, i sat down and listened to it, read the lyrics and afterwards i played it again and again. then i played something else. when i first played the new single, i sat down with the lyrics, and already halfway the first song i felt disapointed. it may grow on me, but will never be as enjoyable as jonathan david. however, this is just a modern rocksong is so beautiful that i want to cry... and just three chords... the brilliance. with our beloved heroes still staying on the other side of the north sea, i am glad that some guys from wales did take the boat. or a plane. tonight the super furry animals are playing in holland, and not only that, even in nijmegen. HIEPERDEPIEP. right now, they may be smoking some allowed vegetables in my favourite vegetable shop. too bad i have to work, though without work, i would not have the money to go to concerts or buy cd's. every advantage has it's disadvantage. whoever guesses this quote and is not from holland gets a mix-cd with dutch and belgium bands. after i've send one to niko (i did not forget). time's up. work is waiting. bye. love to you all, and a big kiss to my secret agent, marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 14:40:23 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:40:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: scary yelling Message-ID: In the spirit of "Storytelling", this e-mail is in two parties... Party over Here ============== Hello, Those who know me well (basically just me), would know that I ritually read through all my sinister e-mails the first thing at work, to relief my boredom. Now that you all know of my ritual, you can imagine my horror when, only one person seemed to have posted between the time when I went to bed and when I got to work (which incidentally makes erin now my best friend). So I was e-mailless from 9:30am - leaving 7 hours of 30 minutes of OBH - Office Boredom Hell staring me straight in the face. Then, like the apple that struck Newton's head, an idea hit me. So I typed in http://www.missprint.org/sinister and without a pimper or a whore, 4 years' worth of archived written words were suddenly at my mercy. And is having a good memory a good thing? I've asked myself that question many times, but I could never remember the answer. As I luxuriated inside the sinister chronicles, every time I click on a link I seem to get a case of "nostalja vu" - "hey I think I've read this one before!"; "Haha how did I forget someone saying that"; "oh those were the days"; etc. Those were the days indeed. Last year, someone mentioned this almost straight away (heh, check the archives); This year, I am appalled that nobody has mentioned it, so I'm going do it right now. Oooh, http://www.missprint.org/sinister is now *sn*ow*in*g!* Isn't that nice? Fuck you over there ================= So yes, we meat again, Now, I know that I look quite passable (the many ambiguities of the word in this occasion was deliberate, make of it what you will) in my suit and tie, but I appear to be attracting quite the suitors that I had not bargained for. For the past few days I have noticed that whenever I walked through the corridor of my office I would see this guy who would keep looking at me, in a rather camp and tentative way. At first I thought maybe I'd put my glasses on the wrong way round, or maybe my flies were undone, but over time I am starting to believe that I have procured myself an office crush, but now with the flattery over I am beginning to get a little worried - what if he askes me out to "do lunch"? Would it be rude to say no? What's the equvalent of "I'm washing my hair" during lunchtime? I'm combing my hair? I don't know. What if we, meet, at the toilet? I've had a track record you know - strangers kept wanting talk to me in the loo. What is the secret of my sudden charm at the washroom? Maybe they caught a glimpse, and admired the length of my hair? Good heavens. There won't be much I can do would there? Maybe I can finally utilise my years of pratice, and make a giant discharge of, spit, and elegantly splash it into the urinal in the ugliest possible manner - yes, that'd surely be a turn off? Unless he may begin to admire my phlegmbuoyancy.. oh that'd be the end of me. Crushes and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: God's sake, just as I was about to post about the list archive Madeleine beat me to it. P.S.2.: God's sake, just as I was about to post about the fact that someone wants my ass Archel beat me to it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 15:46:48 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:46:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SANTA, SAVE ME PLEASE! Message-ID: <3C162A68.582447A8@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello there chickens, This is my third post today but the first one i have managed to send (hopefully) as i am getting into a bad habit of writing a post then deleating it because it is just so pants. I am currently in the middle of a crap day, i have spent most of it on this damn computer trying to write a proposal that will effect the next 8 months of my life. My glasses are very wonky and need adjusting every time i look up at this screen (either that or i woke up with the left side of my head slightly higher than usual). My friend opposite me just keeps on typing, i read some of her's and its great, she even manages to use those french sayings that they have in posh newspapers, i didn't understand what it meant mind but i'm sure it made sense. I was going to have a go at doing that but all i could manage was "i feel my work is tres bon" hmmm sounds a bit shit though. I feel like my brain is sort of sat on top of my head, i keep thinking about too much too fast and in doing so i keep writing words wrong and am not getting anything done. I am going to ask santa if he can take me with him to wherever he goes after england. I might stay with him for afew months and help him do stuff, you never know, he might pay me well. I had a brilliant star spot on sunday, TREVOR AND SIMON sat in a bar having a chat and a giggle. It was brilliant, i wanted to go up and shout "i swing my pants all the time, and that's YOUR fault" but i resisted the urge, knowing that that would have been very sad indeed, but it was tervor AND simon man!!!!! I also watched an obsurd programme about recording dead peoples voices, sorry if i offend anyone here but HAH, it was hilarious, lots of batty old people listening to shit noises going "gggggggggggffffffnol", "oh yeh, can you hear him, he is saying i love you" "BBBBBBLEEEEGGGG" he's saying hello" ha ha, what fun. anyway i'm done with talking shite, i'm off to write some constructed shite that may earn me some college points. lots of festive love, hannah ps, here is my address if anyone is feeling generous ;> 29 dalkeith road dulwich london se12 8lt items of cake or chocolate are most welcome!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 15:51:51 2001 From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (James Alexander Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:51:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the dragon and the fly; dammit! References: Message-ID: <001e01c1825b$c22d2d60$5f8387d9@heyjupiter> oops! Thanks to babyFace for putting that right, i meant the Bot bar, which wasn't bad the last time i was in, but *definitely* not the night club! I don't think it's metal nite @ the Limelight so that's probably the best place, although i hear they changed it a bit... only been to the fly on Wednesdays too, forgot the dress code. and the bouncers are evil. Well, any more ideas? :) belfy's pretty cool when you get a good night, provided we don't go to Lavery's Attic disco (sadly now dragon-less too), we'll be fine. Sir James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 17:06:50 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:06:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: White Noise, Belfast, Soul Music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011211170650.64958.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> phew, thank god someone has finally written with some good advice about belfast pubs! if the Bot is as horrible as all that then we definitely shouldn't meet there (as i'd been suggesting on bowlie recently, knowing no better). maybe we should just be tourists and go to the Crown? rener --- 'Baby face' Bambino wrote: > Hey James and other Belfast concert attending > sinisterians, > I think the Dirty Vicar was talking about > Botanic Park... not the > Botanic night club. Because the Botanic night club > sucks warm sick through > a short straw. Playing S club 7, chart dance music, > poedophile boy band > music and whatever novelty 'cartoonies type' singles > that happen to be in > the charts that week. The Eglantine is just as bad > if not worse. The Fly > has a very strict dress code and sucks shit also. > Dukes and Renshaws are OK > but they're just hotel bars and may be lacking in > atmosphere. I've been > away from Belfast for about a year so I'm probably > not the best person to > suggest a place to go. However, the Limelight, > Auntie Annies and the > Menagerie used to be very good. Are Belfast boys, > Daragh and Ian 'the > gibber' Mc Kinney still on the list? Some > enlightenment, please. > > Not long now (woohoo!), > Tim > > PS. I hadn't intended to post this message to > sinister but the thought of > any sinisterians inadvertendtly ending up in the > Bot, the Eg or the Fly was > just too horrific > > > *************************************************************************************** > > 'Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute > simplicity of this clause > of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.' > > from Catch 22 by Joseph > Heller (1923-1999) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." - Groucho Marx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Tue Dec 11 17:54:17 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:54:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: donovanydonovanydonovanydonovany... Message-ID: <005601c1826d$482c6640$542f3c3e@pbncomputer> Darn and blast you all, everytime i think of something I want to say on sinister, everyone goes and says it. And this time, it was archel. A record of three things that I have thought about today, and she steals them from my head like the anti-santa. This frightens me a little, maybe I know her in a cunning guise...I hope so!;-) Anyway, this post is just reiterating (is that right?) what some have said, but padded with fuzz, so I'll keep it...no, better not promise to keep it short, it never seems to work. 1: Struan's voice IS a bit donovany (thats a fun word to repeat...say the subject line...), most obvious in the line, "she was the one love of my life...". And I do sometimes worry that much B&S is plagarised, but is it true plagarism if they do it <-------> this much better and <---------------------> this much more emotive? I think not. 2. The new single, alright, not exactly the canine's cobblers but I agree with archel in that Marx and Engels is hoobilicious. But I have respect for idles, because she scares me slightly. In a seductive way. 3. The Big Lebowski, possibly the most beautifully quotable film in history, I will therefore recite some of my favourites with relish: "Eight years old, dude." "The dude abides." "But dude, d'ya have to use so many cuss words?" "Well, for f**ks sake, Walter, y'know, f**k you. Yeah, see you at practice." OK, that'll do for now, but you're getting off light... Right, enough of the formal points. Kieran, your school is stoopid. Sorry about the list abuse, everyone. Well, I don't know what I've actually done but I'm convinced by reading some posts that I commit list abuse everytime I breathe! Ha ha, the wit. Oh, oh, this is funny, if you haven't heard it before. I'll give you the situation: At a friends. He has his Aussie cousin over, so I naturally started to rib him for being an Aussie, giving it the old, "Who was it that was asked on his passage to Australia if he had a criminal record and he replied, "I didn't know it was still necessary!?" (It was Oscar Wilde by he way...) so he told me this... "Someone asked Stevie Wonder if he minded being blind, and he replied, "it could be worse, I could be black!" Ah ha ha! Eeee, hee hee hee! Quite. Well, against all chances, this has wound up short. Sod's law really, as soon as I said I wouldn't promise... the boy with the scarab hat Corduroy Boy P.S. Archel: (and anyone else who wishes to know my self made picture of archel) I'm sure I've mentioned this before but "archel" makes you sound like some huge, cool, destroying warrior angel! But a hot one, like on the back of "Ash: free all angels" t-shirts... Anyway, is this woollen goods for favours thing still on? I have a brown balaclava with monkey ears on... actually, I'd like to keep that. P.P.P.P.S:(excuse my stutter) the last sign off I did was taken from the amazing advert (now, sadly not with us...) for Kia Ora. Possible 2nd place advert phrase? The Quavers one. "Ooooh, they're floaty light...". +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 17:56:41 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:56:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: If you could free my inner child then I could free your inhibitions, baby Message-ID: Dougal Shaw's post was nice and amusing to read this morning. I like the idea of the tiger suit in Glasgow. Apparently some men like when ladies wear their low-riders and expose the strings on the side (or worse), although personally, I think it's a bit trashy. I had a whole idea in my mind about I'm Waking Up To Us before I heard the song. I was thinking more in the positive - waking up figuratively and literally, Oh my love, how lovely you look sleeping. Do not stir! I will go and make us some crepes with my strong, freckled, Scottish arms. This is appealing as any girl with over-protective parents will know, the sleepover is quite the mastermind operation that requires extreme precision, synchronizing of fellow girlfriend's cell phone, etc. I like that oldies song that goes "I like it, I like it" - 'And I like the way you let me come in when yer Mummer ain't there!' But anyways, the song wasn't like that at all. It was about the realization of a terrible relationship, so that's a bit sad. Difficult not to read the song as autobiographical? I suspect the lyrics may appeal more to girls who feel a bit under appreciated - 'But Struan, *I* would never ask you to buy my expensive clothes. By god man, if all you ever wanted is to show the beauty of the world that surrounds me, that's all I'll ever need!' He sounds so sad, on the verge of crying. I forget about wanting to slap the stupid girl in the song and want to console him. I love the instrumental bit (especially at the end) of ILMC. It sounds like it's from the olden days. A smoky bar with Struan in a fancy hat or something, being mildly menacing (but in that appealing way: arm stretched out, hand resting on the wall, girl leaning her back on the wall) to a girl in a swirly skirt. I was excited at the prospect of Keith's Grammar School that one listee is attending. A lovely vision of headmistresses impatiently rapping the blackboard: "Repeat after me: Alright lads, Haha! Top." Another lovely vision, someone told me that in England when they make cattle grids there HAS to be a little ramp exiting the hole so as to make sure little critters who fall through the grid can get back out. I hope this is true and not someone playing with my mind! I am one of those annoying Christmas person (I do love it!), so I will be careful not to cause smoke to fly from little sinisterine ears. Papa is a church organist so now is the time of year when the house is flooded with hymns. They (B&S) already did one of my favourites last time, and despite the wide array of choice, I would most like them to do O Holy Night. But please! Struan to sing that one. If you think I'm being mean to Isobel, I could see her (and Sarah) singing Christmas Wrapping by The Waitresses. Plus, Mick gets a nice trumpet bit. Then to finish with Il Est Ne, Le Divin Enfant. Hope you all have fantastic shows in Belfast and Glasgow. :) Although never actually hearing the word in a conversation, I suddenly see 'pastiche' everywhere! Is it like the dreaded pasties? Oh that feeling in the early morning hours after a night of alcohol, thinking my kingdom for a glass of water only for it to taste so horrible. Love, Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Tue Dec 11 22:38:08 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:38:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Cardigans, "I Love Buses", and the new single Message-ID: <2CE5AEB6.4A525168.4EB512AD@netscape.net> "Gardiner, Stuart" wrote: >if you go >waaaaay back to the first month of Sinister, you'll find an intense >discussion about whether B&S will ever get to be as big a band as The >Cardigans >(http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199708/msg00130.html). Yes, >really. Even funnier is reading through the replies to that. Or this particular gem of clairvoyancy: >Well, what I meant by "as big as the Cardigans" was mainly: >MTV popularity (buzz clips, reports by Loder on the possibilty of a >Tigermilk reissue, etc.) and radio popularity ("coming up this hour we've > got Bush and the new one from Belle and Sebastian 'I Just Love Buses'"). Bush have, apparently, dropped off the face of the earth and are currently masquerading as a simian American President (they take turns, you know), while our dear B&S have an ode to their car. On the single... For whatever its worth, I love the first and third tracks, and I like the instrumental bits of ILMC (don't like the verses that much) but... I don't know, maybe something's wrong with me, but it didn't make me *feel* what something like Mary Jo made me feel. Am I incapable of being touched by a song anymore, or do these songs just not affect me as much? I was worried. I put on Mary Jo, and I was worried. Then the chorus hit, and I got that....that Feeling inside, and I knew it was okay. Also, someone criticized Boy Done Wrong Again, and I couldn't disagree more. It's so beautiful, so emotional that once I fell in love with it (granted, it took a few listens), it was pretty much the only thing I listened to for a week or so. It's easily one of my favourite B&S songs. To put it in the same sentence as Beyond the Sunrise is just...*shudders*. Well, anyways, I'm off. Mike K -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Dec 12 00:22:25 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:22:25 Subject: Sinister: Nooooooo! Message-ID: <206409390@spray.se> [above part to be shouted in slow-motion-style] I haven´t heard anything. Nope. Struan is as single as.. as.. er.. what stays single? ah, me. Yes. Even though I am embarrassed for my post last nite (oops, too much strokes-listenings there, i wrote "nite" without thinking about it) - I must say I am in strong denial. Wait, I do not want to marry him anyway. (I want to, but I´ll pretend from now on that I don´t want to). Astrid - young and, er, vital. Struan - old and.. boring? He´s not even old. Ah, this is going to be hard. But Hell, I can make it. Oh SOD IT ANYWAY. I was just about to write him an e-mail, I´ve been thinking about it for ages but I don´t want to anymore. [space for you lot to imagine me making childish pout with my lips] I got the It´s a cool, cool christmas Cd with the mail yesterday, burnt from a girl on the internet. i can´t get it hear, you see. Anyway, I love the B&S-song on it, O come, o come Emanuel. But I bet no-one else likes it, because it has never been mentioned before. What do you think about it? I think it´s lovely. But then I always like stuff that everyone else think is crap. Today I fell asleep on my bed, and I when I woke up, and hour and a half after I fell asleep by mistake, I realised that absolutely NOTHING had happened and as soon as I woke up, two things happened which I had been waiting for all afternoon happened. Very strange. We practised for the Lucia-thing today. It went quite alright. At first, all the boys just shouted and made strange dark sounds, so anyone who actually *sang* couldn´t be heard. But then something happened. I do not know what it was, but all of the sudden, we all started singing and it sounded very pretty, none of the boys tried to be funny by singing all wrong or something... it was the first time that i´ve felt that christmas is coming. it was so nice. tomorrow i have to get out and buy one of those white lucia-white-robe-things. right now though, i feel like just hanging a sheet over myself, cut a hole for my head and roughly saw it together. no-one would notice my budgetversion. but i´m not even paying for it myself, so why do i even bother? i have been feeling melancholy today. i think it´s the weather. it was dark when i left for school. adter school me and some friends were going to the youth club. we took the bus. it was closed due to no heat there. it had broken down or something. we went home. it was dark. it felt horribly depressing. but the luciathing will be so pretty. i hope i can get someone to take some pictures. it will be pretty. with all the lights and all that. i am now half-asleep and still wrote a bloody dull post. ah. fuck it. Astrid x p.s. Did you know that in swedish Kiss means Urin. To go and 'kissa' is to go and pee. I think of that and get quite disgusted. but i still laugh. (he he he). but isn´t it weird that something that nice can mean something that un-nice in another language? speaking of that, there´s always a lot joked about Brad Pitt, cause in swedish, Pitt is like dick. There´s lots more. And the number Six is called Sex. the funniest ever misunderstanding was when my mum was counting how many of the people at our house who wanted coffee (we had guests) and my sister Mikaela´s english friend Daniel was there, and my mum pointed at him and said "SEX!" and he got terrified and said "Er.. what?". but she was just counting. [space for stupid Astridlaughter]. another uninteresting story from Astrid (c) p.p.s when i was a kid, everyone would say "I buy pink sheets", because it translates, roughly in swedish like "ouch poo pee shit". [space for even more stupid Astridlaughter when remembering how everyone would say it and feel very dangerous and wild, afraid that a gownup might hear it. haha. stupidious.] _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Tue Dec 11 23:58:20 2001 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:58:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: tis the season to be b&s'y... Message-ID: <008201c1829f$b7581aa0$6f27073e@Cottyn> Tis indeed. But then again, I'm b&s'y all the time! It's over a year since the day I walked into my local record shop and thought "I haven't bought an album for a while", and I just got that urge (like you do) to just pick something off the shelf and buy it. IYFS attracted by eyes, and i thought "Belle and Sebastian? Oh yea I've heard of them". So I assigned it to the benevolent homo sapien behind the trestle, who duly deposited it into a receptacle. In other words, I got it. And the rest is history. I must have good instincts! And now, for a slight titbit of b&s content that will no doubt have your mouth watering and...erm...other things. But, haha! (heres the clever bit) I'm not gonna tell you it yet! I promise you that it will come up later in the post-it will be like a Paul Daniels trick, (no, it won't be crap) it will be a surprise! huyyjujihuuuujiuuuighjuhyyuuuuuhuyuhhujuuuhjikuh (sorry, damn hair in keyboard!) erm...yea, well I 've realised how much I love writing to sisnister, because I can ramble and stuff and (hopefully) no-one will reply saying "stop talking rubbish!" which would happen if I sent something like this to people in my address book. and now...(Richard shouts 'Abracadabra' to reveal...) the b&s content. It really isn't that interesting at all, but it made my week. I've been in a play all week, and on Saturday night we had the 'end-of-show-party'. It wasn't much, especially seen as the average age of people in this theatre comapny is about 45! (At 17, I'm the youngest one!) Well as time went on, people began to go home, and as the early morning crept in there were only a few of us left. The Abba CD had just stopped playing so I had a brainwave. Richard, I thought. You have TBWTAS in dad's car. So I rushed out to get it and was soon singing along to ICHBABC, so that everyone would know it was my cd. no-one complained about it, no-one requested abba again, so I was pleasantly surprised. And now, the important bit. Track 9 began to start, The funky intro to TBWTAS drifted across the room, and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw an elderly couple (mid fifties) get up and start dancing! OK, it was only for about 10 seconds. OK, they may have been a bit drunk. But I thought, way-hey, old people dancing to may fave band! Was it worth the wait? OK, maybe not (I told you it was like a Paul Daniels magic trick!) Anyway, I'm off-Cheese and crackers are calling me... Yours in all things B&S, Richard P.Shhhfff. Oops, I've developed a lisp! Almost as bad as Corduroy Boy's stutter! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wookie at xxx.ie Wed Dec 12 02:09:43 2001 From: wookie at xxx.ie (Seamus Harte) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:09:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the dream approaches Message-ID: <008801c182b2$13ca5020$4da1a5c2@kmgaughan> Its one of those days that your vanity has taken over, and everytime you turn, and stare into the mirror, you think you look bloody gorgeous. Even though you called in sick to work this morning after awaking and puking everywhere. So you spent most of the day sleeping in your sister's bed cause you could still smell puke in your room. And when you wake up again, you contemplate the phenomenon of 'girls rooms' - how one reminds you of others. And you get up, and decide not to eat anything just in case, and you still haven't ate anything. And my mom's gave out to me about it, inbetween giving out about me walking on my flared cords, and decided because I'm sick, I'm more of a five year old than I normally am, and offered me chocolate and fishfingers and tea! Leaving all that for a moment, Mark Sweeney has been an absolute star organising the dublin to belfast minibus. I shall be buying him a pint of whatever he chooses in wherever the belfast pre-gig meet up venue is - 'the menagerie' seems most likely I think. 'I'm Waking Up To Us' - sounds like stuarts been shagging my ex-girlfriend again. But with recent posts I've realised that one of my recent crushes (ever since I saw her crawling out of her duvet at the start of the 'eighties fan' video) is in fact stuart's current beau. Oh and rachel fruitloop - I'm not the same seamus that you sold your new york b&s tickets to back in '98. I probably should go and get snuggled up in bed now. Slightly muffled shout-outs to the irish sinister massive, seamus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daragh_lynch at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 02:16:38 2001 From: daragh_lynch at xxx.com (daragh lynch) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:16:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister: belfast pubs. Message-ID: hello sinister, it's been quite a little while since i posted (two years maybe) but with all this talk of a pregig meetup in belfast i thought i'd chip in. i feel pretty well qualifed to field this one, having practiced my drinking 'hobby' round these parts for some time with tim and ian. i agree with tim about the bot or botanic inn. it's pretty horrible, especially at weekends. the eg is pretty bad too. all the nice bars in belfast are slowly disappearing, turning into upmarket winebars, or being jazzed up but losing all their character in the process. the menagerie is pretty nice, and about the most sinister bar in belfast (and not in a bad way.) but i'm not too sure, there could be a drum n bass night there that night. (there is every second friday) the empire is really good though, and bar twelve which is just across the road. both are just five minutes walk from the union. but i'd definitely recommend the bunatee in the union for the pre-gig meetup. its in the the same building as the venue (its on the same floor too!) and it's recently been renovated and is actually better for it. oh yeah, since it reopened they've had a funk/soul night on fridays, which is pretty good fun and free to boot. i'm not too sure if it'll be on though as it is outside term time. i'll look into it and well, report back. everyone coming should make sure to bring i.d. with them, as the bouncers (or 'disco council', d.c.'s as they're known. no. honestly.)at the union are really strict and you won't get in without it. everyone is checked, so make sure. seamus, i'll see you at the gig, we'll catch up. dublin meetup reunion and all that. is little louise from limerick still on the list? ok, better sign off. its late and better go to bed. have to get up early tomorrow. for the past two days i've been working for a market research company carrying out a survey on cider drinking. i cold call people and ask them if they like cider. most people think i'm taking the piss. love, daragh ps. tim, sorry i've been so lazy. i'll write soon. promise. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 02:34:25 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:34:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 1 shameless plug + 1 rambling post = Message-ID: Hello there I am going to try and make this first bit of the post rather short, as I'm about to move into the realm of shameless plugging. Those of you that frequent #sinister more often than never, will most probably have heard me rambling about some stupid demo or its associated website. Well, the time has now come for me to beg you all to give it a look, and more importantly a listen. In fact, the website is pointless and you will find absolutely nothing there except for my songs, which you must all now listen to under threat of scowling. Right, so to sum up the point of this post, go and look at my website. Ok? Good. Oh yeah, the address...almost forgot. http://www.breams.co.uk Handy huh? If you can't be bothered going through the two pages preceding, then just head to http://www.breams.co.uk/music.htm Even handier huh? Well, that's enough shamelessness I promise I won't do that again (this year). SOOOOO, back to real posting... I'm back in London now, after a brief spell in Glasgow. Or maybe I'm having a brief spell in London before going back to North Carolina. Then again, I could've just been passing through Perth for 20 years before getting back home to Glasgow. It's all very confusing. I've just spent the last few days sitting in front of my computer (what's new I see you say) trying to waste time whilst waiting for my afore mentioned website to materialise in front of my eyes. Eventually I realised I might have to extend myself a bit more to get one done. So, yeah, now that's all done and I'm kind of stuck for things to do. I've got a very small collection of mp3s here that are keeping keenly interested. I seem to have re-fallen for Astral Weeks. I somehow managed to leave my copy in Perth before leaving and have spent very little of the last 3 months longing for it, but now that I've heard it again, I've developed that homesickness type pang for it. Speaking of falling for things and/or people. I think I'm in love with Stina Nordenstam. I have a strange feeling that I can hear some people sniggering upon hearing that, but I'm not quite sure I care. I love her last 3 albums and I have been playing them all continuously. Though if it makes any of you feel any better, I've also been playing Things We Lost In The Fire continuously too, so all is not lost. I went to see those Obscura guys on Saturday. Not bad really ;) The dancing at Strange Fruit was equally fab. I'm not sure I can say a great time was had by all, I would expect so, but I was too busy dancing like a fiend to notice. Hmm, and I talked to lots of London peoples, and danced with some, and got headbutted by others. In the wee hours I had a chat with Struan about seeing other people, he told me all about it. I managed to avoid sleeping altogether that night as I returned home sometime after 4am and had things to make and do. So the next day/night/whatever was spent comatose on the lounge watching 4 star wars films and eating cold pizza. Sometime that evening I decided to sleep. So, the days have passed and I've still got 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover playing (ok then, not JUST Van, Stina and Low) and wondering why he didn't include a list of the 50 ways. If I were Paul Simon, I'd most certainly have given written instructions on the finer points. Perhaps not 50 ways, maybe just the top 10 or 20, but certainly in more detail. Well, I guess I've now waffled enough to justify this as a real post either way, plus I almost has content, well about as close as I get anyhow. Even though I promised not to, I'm going to give you all that website address again (www.breams.co.uk) just so that after reading all of this you can go off and listen to my songs again and understand the confusion slightly better. I really should shut up now. *waves* Jeremy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougiefish at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 05:55:31 2001 From: dougiefish at xxx.com (erin) Date: 12 Dec 2001 05:55:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: King of Carrot Flowers. Message-ID: <20011212055531.12620.qmail@meowmix.chek.com> >every advantage has it's disadvantage. whoever guesses this quote and is not from >holland gets a mix-cd with dutch and belgium bands. While it's actually an old English proverb, it was uttered by Dutch ex-football star Johan Cruijff, and I assume that's to whom you are referring. (and I'm american :) Today, my socio prof taught me the secret to appearing very edified in any situation: rub your chin thoughtfully and say, with conviction, "Well, *actually*, it's a little more complicated than that." I tried it twice today, and lo and behold -- I like that phrase, 'lo and behold', it's great for hyperbolic narratives -- it worked quite well. I will be in trouble, however, if someone ever asks me to explain *why* exactly it's more complicated. And Kenneth is now my best friend because he loves me. I will assume he loves me because I need someone on the list to love me, and Kenneth�s as good as any. `er`n PS -- why is Sinister neglecting to post my mails? Most unusual. (and if this has gone through a bunch of times, I appologize. I only sent it twice, I promise). PPS -- how is a duvet really any different from a blanket? On my bed, I have a big comforter, flannel sheets, and light blanket (all of which I use to build a little nest everynight. And yes, I turn around three times before I curl up). Is there something special about a duvet that would offer me a fundamentally better sleep experience? And, if so, could I measure this quantitatively? _____________________________________________________________ Are you lazy? Get your Free E-mail at http://www.Lazymail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 11:27:50 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 03:27:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: 13th Note, russian dolls, winter... this post has it all! Message-ID: <20011212112750.8752.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Brrrr! Brrr! Br-r-r-r-r-r-r! Welcome, ladies and gentleman, to winter! An icy cold spectacular filled with long dark nights, and short hours of sunlight! Be sure to keep your fingers tucked in your mittens and wear at least a couple of layers, because its going to be chilly! I had a look at the design of those new t shirts, on the Banchory Shop website. I foresee a barrage of smutty jokes about managing to fit all of B+S inside Stevie�s hole. Or less smutty jokes about actually wanting some B+S Russian Dolls, so you can play Richard Is A Cannibal (Oh Yes He Is), and on your Santa�s letters asking for B+S in your stockings. Corduroy Boy said: 2. The new single, alright, not exactly the canine's cobblers but I agree with archel in that Marx and Engels is hoobilicious. But I have respect for idles, because she scares me slightly. In a seductive way. Don�t be scared. I don�t bite� hard. I went onto the Eastenders website last night, cos I felt like it. I tried to go into #sinister, but I�m obviously doing the wrong thing. If anyone could give me some step by step advice, I�d appreciate it. Just send me an e mail and say �Idles, you silly girl, this is what you�re meant to do.. and you�ll need to download this and this and this..� The annual festival at Camber Sands.. its come a long way baybee since the B+S hosted one I never went to. Have you seen the latest line up? And now they�re doing it over two weekends as well! Sad, sad news about the 13th Note in Glasgow, methinks. But there was a post on a website about how you can raise money� heres some stuff for anyone interested posted from John Williamson: �HOW TO HELP Since the 13th Note went into liquidation, everyone has been encouraged by the number of offers to help from both individuals and some of the bigger suppliers and organisations involved with the business. This, couple with individual support, may help the 13th Note survive in some form. Help 13 is a fund that I have set up to raise money to assist Craig and the 13th Note in its current situation. It will be run by a trust that will include an accountant, an academic, a journalist, a radio producer and representatives of bands and event organisers as well as former employees of 13th Note Ltd. The aim of the fund is NOT to help clear existing debts or liabilities of 13th Note Ltd � but to help towards re-establishing a new business for the future. It�s aims are to (1) help in cases of individual need caused by the liquidation of 13th Note Ltd � using a maximum of 25% of funds raised and (2) to be in a position to make a transfer of funds to any new business that arises on its formation and completion of a business plan. Larger investors would be given a chance to either become share-holders in a new business or be repaid their money after period of trading. Full details are available for download at www.13thnote.com/aims.PDF Here are some suggested ways of helping: A GRAND PLAN: a number of people have offered to donate, loan or invest �1000 to the fund in return for a small stakeholding in any new company. If you are in the fortunate position of being able to do this, please consider it. However, no amount at this point is too small, and if you don�t have any money to donate, please consider any of the following options: � organising an event or gig that will raise funds for help13. � Donating time to help in other ways � admin work, flyering, helping with the organising or promotion of events. � Donating skills: if you would be able to contribute anything (web skills particularly) that would help raise the awareness of help13, please get in touch. � Telling other people: if you know anyone else who you think might be interested in contributing, please forward this e-mail to them. � Keeping in touch: you may not be in a position to, nor want to, help in any of the ways listed above but still care about the future of the 13th Note. If so, feel free to get in touch. People who have received this e-mail will get future updates as well. E-mail If you want to get in touch � please do so. There is an e-mail address help13 at btinternet.com or you can e-mail me at johncwilliamson at btinternet.com Bank The �Help 13� account is held at Lloyds TSB Bank, 52-60 St.Vincent Street, Glasgow G2 5TS. The account number is 0076021 and the sort code 30-25-83. Cheques can be made payable to �help 13�. While a PO Box number is being set up, please e-mail if you wish to contribute and we will forward further information. And Lastly. . . Remember that there are a whole host of excellent gigs still taking place at the 13th Note. Support them if you can! This week includes Pleasure Forever and Senator (Wednesday 12th at the club), Lali Puna and bis (Thursday 13th at the club), New End Original and One Man and His Droid (Friday 14th at the club). Also on Friday, at the caf�, is the enticising line up of Beachwood Sparks, Neal Casal and Vera Cruise. On behalf of the staff and former staff of the 13th Note, thanks again for your support.� There�s more info at http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=111700&article=3537 So if anyone is feeling charitable, perhaps you could help save the place my pal describes as �scabby soap-dodging indie kids haven that I don�t mind going to�. (She prefers her twendee bars usually, but its one of the few places she�s willing to go with minimal arm twisting.) Lets face it, every year, something happens, that leaves people who have an interest in non-mainstream music with less. And its going to carry on, and then what will we do? What will we leave our kids? Its not about you, its about making sure that your kids don�t become Virgin-sponsored whores, and grow up properly, like we did- getting bullied at school before reaching a point in their lives where they discover underground music and find people they can connect with, and learn how to play guitar rather than just singing Steps Kareoke and pulling boys with wet look haircuts. Or wearing Ben Sherman shirts like all their pals and refusing to buy vinyl because it smells funny. (or whatever the alternative will be in thirty years time) right, I think that�s enough for one day�. Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From booga14 at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 13:36:11 2001 From: booga14 at xxx.com ('Baby face' Bambino) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:36:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: King of Carrot Flowers. Message-ID: >PPS -- how is a duvet really any different from a >blanket? On my bed, I have a big comforter, flannel >sheets, and light blanket (all of which I use to build a >little nest everynight. And yes, I turn around three >times before I curl up). Is there something special >about a duvet that would offer me a fundamentally >better sleep experience? And, if so, could I measure >this quantitatively? Erin and other curious parties, Well, if one farts in bed and is covered with a sheet and a blanket, the fart has only one direction in which to escape... through the top of the bed and past one's nostrils. However if one replaces his /her sheet and blanket with a duvet, the bottom of the duvet may be discreetly lifted up with one's foot in the event of a fart allowing said fart to escape without annoyance to the rester. This could be measured qualitatively with a cigarette lighter but may be quite dangerous. Quantitatively, I'm not so sure about ...perhaps with the correct equipment. Tim PS. Nope I don't fart in bed. But this technique can be used to eliminate sleeping partners farts also. PPS. Nope I no longer have any sleeping partners who fart either. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Wed Dec 12 13:56:15 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:56:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I love my thundercats figures (especially cheetara) Message-ID: <000801c18315$57130260$e02b3c3e@pbncomputer> I love the ice and snow. I love marmite. I love frogger. I love my fleecy quilt. I love my trainers that look like bowling shoes. I love fruit cake with one thick layer of marzipan on it and no icing. I love indie dancing. I love frankfurters, but only when they're not cooked. I love playing jazz. I played jazz yesterday. I will play jazz tomorrow. I love playing jazz, because it makes you feel buzzy and vibrant, or so darn cool you could die. I love wearing the full works, dinner jacket, ruffled shirt, bow tie. I love watching peoples faces and knowing that they think they're having a great time listening and dancing to your sweet music, but all along you know it's not a patch on how you feel playing it. I love jazz, because the song always goes on too long or someone gets a bit wrapped up in a solo, but the whole group know exactly when to finish. This is why I love the music on I love my car. All that beautiful improvisation that makes you swell up but when you play jazz like that you know it's unique, you can hear it being played back to you but you'll never get it just like that again, those perfectly timed trills and cadences. But you're not sad, because you know that when the time comes you'll have something else up your sleeve. Something unique, something special. Having mentioned indie dancing, a friend of mine and I were talking about the misfortune of dancing to indie infront of non-indie kids who are your friends. I still dance how I want, but sometimes I'll see them around later in the week and they say, "Can you remember dancing on friday?! Whoa, you must have been soooo drunk!" to which I can only smile weakly and reply, "Erm, yeah...hammered..." Having only had ribena and soda. A short comment on the alternative formats for our children (or me!) in the future as brought to the surface by Idles: I only recently made a decision to buy stuff on vinyl. It does smell funny, yes, but it's actually cheaper in many places. Loads of people say, "It's so impractical, you can't listen to it on the move, it gets damaged easily, it takes up more space, it's harder to change and skip tracks, you can't pre-program it, there's no indication of how long the song is..." and many more, to which I have to say, "Well, yes, that's true." *But* records were the start of it all. The start of music being easily available to those who didn't play their own or just wanted to listen to someone elses for a change. And they're so much more *personal*, the whole idea that got me into it was just thinking about owning these beautiful thick, shiny discs of vinyl, carefully removing it from it's cover, then it's dust envelope, and everso precisely placing it on the player. Then, carefully lifting the arm down but keeping it up so the record just spins, brushing it with a felt and soft bristle brush, perpendicular to the grooves and towards the outside. Then gently let the needle that you have sharpened yourself (OK, maybe that's a bit OTT) down on to the shiny outside rim and hearing that little "pfff-t", and watching it move closer and closer to the duller grooved area until.... "da-da-da-da-da-da-da.... there you go, way too fast, don't slow down you're gonna cra-a-ash..." The Primitives. GRATE. You can't let *that* die out, and the only way to do that is to buy the things. My friend has a tangerine dream lp, which is brilliant because it's quite old and you can't tell where the peripheral noise stops and the track begins, same with my copy of Atom Heart Mother. Laura, I mean Miss Llew, Her Llewness, Queen Llewy, "Mrs Llew to you", the Duchess of Llew etc, I have a question. Are "Bright Eyes" good? I would very much favour your opinion. Oh, go on then, the rest of you can chip in as well. Who is that girl who posted her address for seemingly no reason? I am going to send you a Christmas cardand some Opal Fruits, because you seemed nice. Time to yell a few MAD PROPS TO EVERYONE WHO IS NICE, and Ken Chu. Stakes of holly to you all, to be taken once, through the heart. Corduroy Boy Tom Of who it has been said, "Just who is Corduroy Boy and what is his problem?" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 12 16:32:02 2001 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:32:02 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: s.m.u.t. Message-ID: in an attempt to discredit big stu's implications that i am inextricably connected to the concept of smut, i followed the general trend and went to the archives. unfortunately, i was proved entirely guilty. just the second month of my sinister membership (back in 1998, when i had lost my inhibitions at the bottom of the york university lake, i can only surmise) offers the following damning evidence: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00610.html i also admit to saying: "i wish i got asked things like 'what's a bollock?' more often." mea culpa. i confess. 10 hail marys etc. changing the subject: duvets. they're great. i just bought the fattest, thickest winter duvet you can possibly imagine. how i even got up this morning i don't know. luv archel xxx ps. i also confess that corduroy boy and i are in fact a scary gestalt entity, sharing a single mind. in real life we take the form of a huge warrior angel wearing flares, a cardigan and bowling shoes. so don't cross us, or you'll be in a World Of Pain (as walter would say.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From megatherion5 at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 19:48:50 2001 From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:48:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re:Vision (revision) Message-ID: Well. We are back in downtown again. Doing a stint at the place who laid us off. Looking out over the bay, doing barely enough to get by, i think. But we know where that gets us, don't we? Piles of papers, half-finished capers and the right to not think. And to drink....that is a respite. My Id, a mighty despot..... that leaves me long-faced with shallow-breath lung death. But we've beaten back the world with words and convincing won't help....I've tried. Yeah, I've lied. I've lain low and still for infinite bouts of conscience. And kicked myself for caring.....and I do or sometimes i don't. But still I'm kicking....no treats....just a tricking. Land HO. Mirror can be traps that we set on walls...we fall sideways into our problems....our lives. We try to fill our lives with laughter as love and merry wives. But that doesn't work....so we do....and we try to fit all of us into it.... We cut our personalities to fit the proper shape....a self-rape of sorts...but we feel no pain ...til later. Then we suck it back in....and spew out neurosis and ire at anything we can't be.... the things we want - we hide, given to an earthly body in which to reside. The Pickle Prince _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Wed Dec 12 22:34:49 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:34:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belfast here I come (but not for a while, it seems) Message-ID: <00b001c1835d$4e3ecbe0$36a487d9@fallahome> Hello again everyone. I've been trying to read your posts as much as possible, but again so much has been going on (like finishing off my website). I'm just glad that so many of you seem to be going to next Friday's concert in Belfast, which in fact will be my first Belle & Sebastian gig. Better get listening to the albums then. I know a number of the songs, yes, but it'd help if I knew more. What time have I got for that, though? Being cast as a minor principal in the Operatic Society's production of Anything Goes is taking up more time than I thought. I enjoy the show, yes, but it's left me tired on more than one occasion. Having said that, I had a great time seeing most of my old school friends (that I met in the Society) when I went to see My Fair Lady there. And the show was good too. Have any of you seen Amelie? It has STILL not been released here. Our local multiplex says it's "coming soon" but you never know what they mean by soon. I'm looking forward to Lord Of The Rings. I don't know too much about Belfast pubs. The only one of them I've been in was the Bot, some two years ago. I quite liked it. I've been to a few nightclubs there, mind you (such as the M-club). How many of you have been to the Odyssey? People from Derry who went to see the Stereophonics have been telling me how great it was, and I also hear that the Odyssey is being talked of a venue for the MTV awards next year. Not many notes for anyone this time, either, except: Laura Llew, that was good advice of yours about writing a Sinister post. Still have yet to go through all your points, though. And I notice at one point, you've mentioned Amelie. And...Daragh, I'd disagree with you about the Bot, but then I've only been there once. Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Wed Dec 12 22:40:48 2001 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (Patricia Brazil) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:40:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BUS TO BELFAST!!! Message-ID: <3C26DE05@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> *ahem* sorry to shout, but i'm getting a bit excited! the very brilliant mark sweeney has organised a bus to belfast for southern fans, leaving dublin next friday at about 4 o'clock. it's a 16 seater bus, at the moment, we reckon there's about 10 bums on seats, but we are trying to get a definite picture of who's with us, and then trying to find other bums to put on the other seats (all this talk of bums, do i have to do a body part pic now? oo-er!) ok, for anyone who is DEFINITELY interested in the bus, can you either get in touch with mark on 086 3424095 (he told me to post that, i'm not just tempting cyber stalking twelve year olds ta very muchly) or to anyone who might not have a mobilly, you can email me and i can pass the message on. 8 days to go - RARARA!!! i spent all summer being kiwi green with jealousy of all those people who were going to gigs, and now it's my turn! and it's christmas! and the exclamation mark police are going to get me if i do that much more!!!!! looking!forward!to!seeing!everyone!at!the!gig! talk soon trish delish ps for the students on the bus, how does a pre bus pub trip sound? i think i could be tempted.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 01:10:28 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:10:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fun & Games! Message-ID: i've made a little questionnaire. It's just a sort of fun, get-to-know-ya, silly thing for poops and giggles. you can go ahead and send it off to me. in a few days i will compile them and send them all out to those who replied. there's so many new folks here (including myself), i just thought it would be nice. i'll include here a blank copy of it for your copy and pasting enjoyment. i've got some other internet colleagues and work associates that do this sort of thing with me now and again, and it's fun fun fun. you always learn something new. i'll spare the whole list from this action though, so if you want in, you have to send your answers to me. as i said, i'll compile them all somehow and send them out to all who replied. don't be shy. second point of interest: ***SCRABBLE*** the game, i'm obsessed. just over a year ago a couple of friends of mine opened me up to playing yahoo's version of this (literati) with them over the net. so, when i started visiting #sinister, i was lucky enough to find others there willing to play said game with me. i've brushed this idea over with mr.chu a bit... A SINISTER SCRABBLE CHAMPIONSHIP !!!!!!!!! it will take a little time to tweek this out, as we've just started searching other venues in which to play the game on the net (ken and will were even discussing making one!). if you are interested, let me know, and i'll keep yr names and emails tucked away safely & keep you informed as the ideas develop. send yr ideas and thoughts, etc, in as well! literati wouldn't be too bad of a spot to hold it, as you can have "rated" games and they'd keep our scores for us, but if our boys can make something for us, hell, let's look into that! no pressure tho, boys. timing will be everything in this as well, with everyone's work and geographical time opositions. goodness. it would definetely have to take place over a few weekends. we'll see! that said, i hope everyone's well and that Xmas preparations aren't hampering too much. i should also wish all of you cramming and stressing on school good luck! finals are a biatch! love! amy! applejacks! ********************************************************************************************************************* here's where i pretend to be molly ringwald, throwing you a questionnaire over my shoulder in class. i hope jake ryan doesn't find my answers first! ********************************************************************************************************************* What's yr name? What name(s) do you use for sinister/#sinister? how long have you been on sinister? As of today, you are how old? you reside where? Describe yr first snog, please? What was the first novel you read that really made you get all excited about life and stuff? Obvious question coming from me, what's yr favorite board/card game? first movie to make you cry (that you remember)? First B&S song you heard that made you realize you'd never go back? Best concert/show? How far would you have to stretch out your arms to show just how much you adore princess Honey? Artists you admire you wish we all knew more about? Got any siblings? Have you honestly had a crush on someone over the Internet? Ever had a crush on someone way older or younger than yourself? Finish this sentence(please) America's current raid on terrorism is ... Ever been embarrassed by a sini-post? Worst 70's song? 80's song? 90's song? Most overrated indie band? Got pets? Ever meet anyone from sinister? Who? B&S song that gets in yr head the most? ever been in a car accident? what, you don't have a drivers liscense? what countries have you had the pleasure of visiting? worst job ever held? ahhh, unrequited love, ever had one? write a poem! now! yes, right here! ---> I know it can be hard to pick over all, so, as of today, what are yr 5 favorite albums? have you ever done it? (i warned you i was 16 candles inspired! "i think so" will suffice as an answer, as it will bring quite a grin to my face!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 10:46:56 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:46:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The state urine Message-ID: I was having a wee in the toilet at around midnight last night, and suddenly I remembered... ... TODAY IS "SHIT! BELLE & SEBASTIAN GIG IS NEXT WEEK!" DAY!!! as I jumped up and down in excitment, and sprayed wee everywhere. And thus had to clean up for a while. I shitted myself as well, but metaphorically this time, as I haven't yet received my tickets! I booked them ages ago, arrrrgh! If they don't come soon I'll go. Mad! Before I continue, please take a second to look behind you and see what's there! During that second you took, I've totally changed the topic of this e-mail, now I'm going to tell you what all the fun things in life are: 1) Going into the cinema with a JUMBO (1.5 litre) sized coke, and come out of cinema H!Y!P!E!R! and in need of toilet. 2) Singing along and making those bollocks-grabbing high notes in "Unchained Melody". 3) Singing along to love songs and changing every occurance of the word "love" with the word "muff". 4) Combining 2 and 3. 5) Going bowling. Yes! Don't forget 29th Dec is INTERNATION SINISTER BOWLING DAY! The London bowling massive is gathering force, we have almost enough indiekid arms to lift an 8lb ball now - that's quite a lot of indiekid arms indeed! But we want more! So, whether your name is Asiuah, Emmanuel, or Dancing, come! And I swear that I don't have a pun. I like how the Corduoy Boy subtly implied that I'm not nice. Hehe brilliant. But honestly tho I am actually a nice person, apart from the fact that I steal beer from little children, and sweets from adults. I agree with what he said about Jazz tho, I love my Jazz, I have magazines all about it, too. Ken P.S.: By the way, provided that I can get my car fixed this weekend, I shall be driving up to Glasgow, possibly the night before, if any of you live along the M1 (up to junction twenty-whatsit), the M6 or the M82(the one from M6 to scotland?) wants a lift up there I can possibly provide - only problem is I don't know when I'm driving back down yet (it's the start of my 13 day break so I might spend some time looking at the beauty - um freezingness - of Scotland..) but let me know we can work something out - you might be the person to share my petrol money or buy me drinks. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Thu Dec 13 12:39:42 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:39:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A murderer is just an extroverted suicidal... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC05906B@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> Archel has been complaining about me labelling her as smutty, and asking where she got this reputation from. Well, you could look at http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199901/msg00265.html, where she gives an in depth discussion of her underwear. Come to think of it, http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199901/msg00191.html isn't much better (and also includes her prediction that the odds on B&S winning a Brit award were 1000-1 against). Or you could go to http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199811/msg00807.html where she discusses whether left-handed people are better in bed. But for the ultimate, have a look at http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00711.html. The case for the prosecution rests. Still, that's why we love her... I've come to the conclusion that while the Camera Obscura album may be a pleasant listen, it is clearly a summer record. I can imagine myself relaxing to it, wandering around in shorts and T-shirt, watching the specks of dust in the sunlight from the window. But it just doesn't work when it's bloody freezing outside. At this time of year, I need something with a bit more oomph; like Le Pastie, or the new Pulp album. Or a bit of classic motown (but then, that's good at any time of year). I Love My Brick is also a classic summer afternoon song. I could quite happily listen to it driving along country roads with the roof down on my car; and it would take my mind of the fact that something must have gone seriously wrong, because my car isn't a convertable. Oh, by the way, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but apparently it's Christmas soon. Which is either a) a good thing as it involves drunken nights out (like I need an excuse...); or b) a bad thing as it means spending a week with the parents. And let's face it, Harrogate isn't the most exciting place on Earth. On balance, I like it, purely because it gives us the chance to hear Fairytale of New York on the radio every day. Only two months to go until Valentines' Day... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 14:05:30 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:05:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Judy is a shaky lady Message-ID: Oh dear. I was ill yesterday and had to go home. All because I went to a takeaway called Ali Baba�s 40 Amazing Dishes the night before. People said I was as green as a green plate of mushy peas and I felt like one too. I should have known better, but I�m always a sucker for a stupid name. I�m always the one who drinks the guest ale called The Reverend�s Ring, even though it tastes like wellies. So I went home, had some soup, went to bed, had some soup, watched Richard and Judy and had some soup. On Richard and Judy they have a phone-in quiz where you have to describe an object without mentioning its name: [A picture of a tree flashes onto the screen] Caller: Erm, it grows in the garden. Richard and Judy: Grass! Caller: No. It�s big and it�s got a trunk. Judy: An elephant! Poor Judy. She still shakes a lot too. When they left their show on ITV I thought it might be because Judy was shaking so much her hands were creating a strobe lighting effect. When the new show began I half expected a health warning beforehand: Warning, This Program Contains A Trembling Woman. All in all a wasted day. And I felt guilty feeling sorry for myself. On the bus home I offered my seat to an old man who was gripping one of the poles for dear life. He said �Oh no thank you young man. It�s my legs, you see. If I sit down I�ll never get up again. Of course I consider myself lucky compared to some.� I felt pretty pathetic after that. Bloody Ali Baba. He can stuff his 39 other �Amazing Dishes� It�s good to see a debate on IWUTU. In my opinion it�s the best �single� they�ve done so far. I�m not sure why but somehow, despite the style being so different, the title song feels like something off If You�re Feeling Sinister. I think it must be the lyrics; sad, honest and funny all at once. It�s good to revisit a bit of smut from Archel too. I remember reading that post about orgies before I met her and *being very scared*. But she�s never that smutty in real life and rather sweet. Maybe I�m just not trying hard enough, eh Archel? I'm off to have some soup... Robinx PS: To all the Bobs on our mixtape team: I�m still trying to work out the rules but when I have I�ll let you know and we can devise a plan of action. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 18:33:19 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:33:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Spare Glasgow Ticket! Message-ID: <004f01c18404$a69e1c80$fd8e7ad5@oemcomputer> Hey guys. I have a ticket going spare for the Glasgow QMU gig on the 20th. This is due to my friend realising he won't be in the city on that date. It'll cost ye face value. Anyone who's interested, mail me off-list at: jasonandreas at btinternet.com And I'll get back to you asap. - Jason (apologies for list-abuse, if this constitutes it) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 18:31:54 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:31:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooooooh...The angst of it Message-ID: <20011213204753.LJKG27606.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.85.25]> Now, picture the scene: MY LIVING ROOM, you may imagine it as either lofty palace or run-down crap-hole, it's not important, as long as it has a TV and door. I sit in front of TV, watching video of Jools Holland I reminise(i _know_ this is wrong (the speeling, that is)) about what a good song The magic of a kind word is My Godfather Mark, who is living downsatirs from us at the moment as the roof of his house fell in, enters. He works for the BBC, by the way. GODFATHER: You watch Jools Holland? ME: Yeah, sometimes GF: I can get you tickets to that if you like ME: That would be great GF: OK, i'll see what I can do. GRRRRRR..... If only I had thought to ask him about it _before_ the Jools session. I could have seen them once more. Now: Some things I meant to mention last time: I _was_ going to comment on the mysterious abscence of Ms. Llew, but then she appeared in a cloud of post-coloured smoke. (You may decide upon your own colour of post) I have found the shop called Kentronic. I will take a photo of it sometime Maja's post will be at the top of my inbox for the 20 years or so, which I quite like. I am pleased to see the return of Corduroy Boy I am pleased to say that Max thinks I'm BRILLIANT and I am very much pleased with myself There were some other things... but I can't remember them... Now: Some things I am going to mention now: I have made myself a computer useable picture of myself. I have done this by pressing my face against the scanner at school. It looks surprisingly like me but you probably wouldn't recognise me all the same. I like the new sinister page with all the snowflakes It's an emergency! There's no more wait and see! Now: That's what I call music: Grrrrrrrr... Even indie music stores in Camden do not have the Camera Obscura album. It's probably 'cos one of you bought it. Anyone own up to buying the last copy in Rythm Records? OK, so this post has been somewhat fragmented and my posts are generally more fluid than that but there you go, planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do but there you go north country girl, I think she's gone for good but there you go. !Viva Rachels! Joe Rachel Pancake Vester P.S. Did anyone know that Rachel's are playing at All Tomorrow's parties next year. I want to go, but probably won't manage it due to haveing a brain the size of a shrivelled pea. Maybe I can persuade my friend Dan to come and then we can have fun arguing about what bands to see. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scottneiss at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 22:26:09 2001 From: scottneiss at xxx.com (Scott Neiss) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:26:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: hello beautiful people Message-ID: <20011213222609.81886.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> I thoroughly enjoy reading Sinister, though this is my first post. Why? Perhaps I�m nervous about what to say. I�m a bit self-conscious about not fitting-in or something. That�s probably because I�m not as indie as I like to think I am: I can�t bear not to capitalize my �I�s�; being an American, my mind has been at least slightly warped by the culture around me; I�m no longer a student (though I wish I still were...but, then again, I was a business major); I don�t own a record player; I do own a Palm; I�m contemplating, dare I say, downloading the new B&S on MP3; and I work in software. By the way, I'm also the author of a novel affectionately entitled �the state I am in� (though in order to actually sell anything, I would have to be overly ambitious and manipulative � which I�m not very good at � so my book doesn�t sell very well...which is okay because I am happy with it). That MP3 part...I wouldn�t actually do it. B&S is the only band in the world that I wouldn�t do it to. B&S is the most beautiful, pure music in the world. It is a sort of common understanding across cultures and lifestyles. It is a celebration of a lifestyle we can�t all live...but it�s at least alive in our imaginations. I know, I�m not telling you anything you don�t already know and it�s starting to sound a little canned. When I saw the show in Seattle just days after the tragedy...well, I can�t really describe how perfect it all was. And when I caught the licorice that Stewart threw into the crowd...let�s just say that I�ll keep it forever! I�m even thinking about framing it along with a great picture I snapped of the band! I don�t have any delicious stories to share right now...or anything particularly witty to say as I look out my quiet office window at yet another rainy Seattle day. If something comes to me, I�ll let you know. I just wanted to say hi and that I enjoy Sinister. Scott Neiss __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Dec 13 22:51:42 2001 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:51:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ring ,Happiness, Film ,Cheese Message-ID: I was just reading an old post by Archel and she was talking about weird movies and I just remembered all about the scariest film I have ever seen in my life... It was a few weeks ago and I decided that I was bored and decided to watch "Ring"(1996) by Hideo Nakata. If you have seen it you'll know what I'm talking about...If you ever see it, then I am warning you that your television will never look the same again..It's about this journalist who discovers that there is a mystery around a video tape that if you see it you will get a telephone call telling you that you will die in a week. Then after a week you actually do die. It is quite complicated and SOOOOO SCARY!!!I think that what makes it scary is that it is filmed in a very naturalistic way.The lighting is fairly neutral .Also, the film is not made as a science fiction film or horror.Everything is depicted as perfectly normal.There is a scene that I will tell you about it because even if you know it's SO SCARY it doesn't matter.So, at this scene pure evil-yes, yes- comes out of the television and that's where I put my head in my jumper-you can do that...- ,sat deeper in the couch and started moving like an autistic saying "ohmegod, ohmegod...". I got scared ok??? Since I am talking about films, I want to see Storytelling but I am a bit dubious about it as I am constantly thinking about "Happiness" and whether Solondz can live up to it.The feedback so far hasn't been encouraging but I have to go and see for myself. When I first started writing here I had just entered university and now I am almost finished -sweeeeeeet (or that horrible thing that people say and when I hear it I want to smack them: "awwwww!!Bless!!!".)...-which means I have to do a dissertation. Anyway, since my degree is Media and Comm. with Film I decided that I don't really want to do a dissertation on New Media, Internet and Politics but instead I want it to be about film!!So, this is the title of my dissertation and I am excited about it-I won't be so excited in May but hey... "Representations of a dystopian, technologically advanced world in three contemporary films" and it is going to be EITHER about Blade Runner, Terminator 2 and The Matrix OR Brazil instead of Terminator. It's all about films, popular culture and stuff...It's going to be my masterpiece...I know... Oh yeah.You know, there is this REALLY CHEESY series on ITV2 called Felicity.Does anybody know about it??It's soooo politically correct it would make Todd Solondz puke and decide that he has to go and become a nun, at the same time! I was watching it the other day -double bill as well.It's my job to watch horrible TV.But I love TV.It's what I live for...no, ok...but I like it anyway- and it was all about this person who is not having a good relationship with his father and that other girl hose birth father has died and she lectures him etc etc...it's got everything: student life and university troubles, fathers who are alcoholics, sons who have childhood traumas because the alcoholic fathers were never there-I can feel the tears coming-, daughters who found out they were adopted and came to NYC to find their birthparents and then her birth father dies because she didn't help when he needed a bone marrow transplant and SHE was the only donor!!!HOW HORRIBLE!!!Beverly Hills (first cycles) is nothing in front of this troubled show..Oh yeah the best part was when Felicity-the main character-missed her exams because she was doing jiggy jiggy with her boyfriend and then they realised that there was something wrong with the clock and so the boyfriend went to the lecturer and explained how it was all his fault and please give her a chance, 'cos I love her... mmm I know I have talked about it a lot but it's pure cheese... oh well, on that note:BYE BYE stilton nope cheddar nope blue cheese nope ...................... z. www.studentpaper.co.uk info at studentpaper.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scottneiss at xxx.com Fri Dec 14 01:06:24 2001 From: scottneiss at xxx.com (Scott Neiss) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:06:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my terrible typo Message-ID: <20011214010624.5407.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> I can't believe I spelled Stuart's name wrong in the last email. See, I'm really not cool...I told you. After my post, I decided to venture out into the rain and walked down to the record store to *buy* the new EP. When I came back and played it on my laptop somehow I realized what I had done so I just had to correct it. Leave it to an author, right... Cheers! Scott www.scottneiss.net --- Scott Neiss wrote: > I thoroughly enjoy reading Sinister, though this is > my > first post. Why? Perhaps I�m nervous about what to > say. I�m a bit self-conscious about not fitting-in > or > something. > > That�s probably because I�m not as indie as I like > to > think I am: I can�t bear not to capitalize my �I�s�; > being an American, my mind has been at least > slightly > warped by the culture around me; I�m no longer a > student (though I wish I still were...but, then > again, > I was a business major); I don�t own a record > player; > I do own a Palm; I�m contemplating, dare I say, > downloading the new B&S on MP3; and I work in > software. By the way, I'm also the author of a > novel > affectionately entitled �the state I am in� (though > in > order to actually sell anything, I would have to be > overly ambitious and manipulative � which I�m not > very > good at � so my book doesn�t sell very well...which > is > okay because I am happy with it). > > That MP3 part...I wouldn�t actually do it. B&S is > the > only band in the world that I wouldn�t do it to. > B&S > is the most beautiful, pure music in the world. It > is > a sort of common understanding across cultures and > lifestyles. It is a celebration of a lifestyle we > can�t all live...but it�s at least alive in our > imaginations. I know, I�m not telling you anything > you don�t already know and it�s starting to sound a > little canned. When I saw the show in Seattle just > days after the tragedy...well, I can�t really > describe > how perfect it all was. And when I caught the > licorice that Stewart threw into the crowd...let�s > just say that I�ll keep it forever! I�m even > thinking > about framing it along with a great picture I > snapped > of the band! > > I don�t have any delicious stories to share right > now...or anything particularly witty to say as I > look > out my quiet office window at yet another rainy > Seattle day. If something comes to me, I�ll let you > know. I just wanted to say hi and that I enjoy > Sinister. > > Scott Neiss > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Dec 14 12:47:00 2001 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:47:00 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: my wondering days are over Message-ID: hm, now the archives have come back to haunt me i feel a bit like i'm living in the past. any minute now i'll be drinking 7 pints of bitter, dancing to take that, and trying to produce essays on jane austen and wordsworth. not to mention falling for unsuitable post-grads and writing bad poetry. and while there are some aspects of my student days i would rather NOT revisit, i'm suddenly nostalgic for using my brain. maybe i can do a lit or film studies MA and go back to talking out of my arse full-time. (zoe - that wasn't a comment on film studies, but on me. your dissertation sounds great!) welcome scott, and don't worry about not being indie enough - i don't feel *anything* enough, but sinister is a good place to not be it :) and where can we get hold of your novel? oh, and i just want to say: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00581.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00624.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199811/msg00369.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199811/msg01300.html the words POT and KETTLE spring to mind :) luv archel xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 00:09:14 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:09:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nog and snogs Message-ID: Sorry Sinister, but I am about to use you. No, not for any sort of query. Purely for selfish personal purposes. Of the diversion variety. Hmm. I guess there is nothing new there, really. Anyway. You are to be my vorpal sword as I attempt to slay this frumious bandersnatch commonly known as insomnia. My battle plan, see, is to try to beat the beast at its own game - by purposely staying awake as long as possible (preferably until at least 5 p.m.) until the ferocious foe has no fuel upon which to feed. In other words, until I collapse in a heap of exhaustion and sleep until dawn. Yes. It�s a tall order. But I�ve got you. And Valley of the Dolls (mwah mwah Magnificent Miss Maddie McNeil). So I�ve been writing since morning. Well, since the time most people define as morning, being about 8:30 a.m., since I�ve been up since... 7 p.m.? Er. Time is very confusing to me right now. I confuse my days and often the weird logic I utilized when developing my insomnia attack (�So, if I got up at 7 today instead of 3, that will help because I will go to bed later tomorrow and get up later and then soon will be on track, right? Wait a sec. That�s backwards. Er. What?�). Writing. Yes. And not that crazy word processor shit. I�m talking REAL WRITING here, like, with your hands, on paper, legibly. In fact, more than legibly. It had to be perfect and pretty, it was for a present. Only it wasn�t of course, perfect and pretty that is, for my hand was hurting so badly it began to throb and shake; the letters danced deceptively across the page. And even worse, the special brown pen I was using began to run out of ink and had to be pressed down in just the right way or else it didn�t flow and left big scratches instead. Sigh. I was up against a deadline, the deadline being the insanely early post office closing time - 2 p.m. - and needless to say, I did not make it. But I did not despair, for I had a slew of stamps and figured I could smother the envelopes in them, guessing at weight and all that. Then, after all was finally finished and I ventured outdoors to walk to the post box, I realized the big envelopes did not fit in the wee slot. So I have to wait until Monday anyway. And my sister will hate me for not only missing our family Christmas for the first time ever, but failing to deliver my cheap handmade present on time. Pathetic. Especially considering I haven�t exactly been a busy little bee lately. Ah well. I�ve ingested so much poetry over the past week, I�ve begun to regularly regurgitate in random circumstances. As I stumbled down the street to the post box twenty minutes ago, I started to recite �I go my myriad ways, blundering, bombastic, dragged..� On the way to the bakery at 8, �I have measured out my life with coffee spoons.. should I presume, should I presume?� and once inside, spotting a doddering old woman, I happily repeated to myself �I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear my trousers rolled.� I suppose there are worse things. In fact, it might make me seem more educated than I in fact am. Or crazy. Especially since discounting Elliot, most poems I can be heard quoting are not commonly known. If I were to actually converse in poetry, I might say: �We were tired, we were merry, we had gone back and forth all night on a ferry. I am living without you because of a terror, a far-fetched notion that I cannot live without you. Love is not all: it is not mean nor drink. Let us put on our appropriate galoshes. I must suffer everything being poor. My childhood cities, by now I�ve forgotten them all, and you in one of them. I have lost all desire to communicate with men. I have a bird in my head and a pig in my stomach. Positively on my own again, heart broken so long ago I hardly notice. You call that sex? Your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle. It�s true, I weep too much. Like this before you, just as I am. Our story is how still we stood, how fast. Let us go then, you and I. In a mayonnaise jar I keep the tiny people I shrunk with my magic. Mothers of America, let your kids go to the movies! Lately I�ve become accustomed to the way the ground opens up and envelops me each time I go out to walk the dog. We are the chin-choppers and the golly-woppers and soon we shall discuss the amputation of your head.� See? It�s a bit frightening. I can only recite a few poems in their entirety, but several snippets of others lodge themselves in my brain and shoot out at me in sing-song. Anyway. What else have I been doing during this sleep deprivation interval? Well, actually, I went shopping. Yes! I had not intended to, really. Well, of course I did, you don�t just stumble into online cheese stores by accident generally. But I mean, it wasn�t my initial intention when pondering what to get my parents for Christmas. I couldn�t give them poetry. It�s been done before. No books (they don�t read). Umm. And everything else requires money, which I do not have and which they did not want me to spend anyway. Good. So I was preparing to be lame and pull out my digital camera and microphone and make it a merry internet media Christmas, but then I thought, �Wouldn�t it be nice to have a little something delivered to the door? Something small. Something cheap. Something unexpected. Something.. peculiar? Yes! Like.. um.. ha! Wouldn�t it be funny to have a nice juicy steak delivered to their doorstep in a Styrofoam box of ice! Oh yes, it would. What followed was hours of searching for the perfect cheesy gift (and yes, a hunk of black currant vodka cheese WAS an option under consideration). Sorry, #sinister, for subjecting you to this, but you were good sports. And a special shout-out to Vociferous Vodkabird Vic, for her constant stream of very valuable advice. For those of you who weren�t there for the blow-by-blow, my options were as follows: -Ten monthly shipments of genuine Latvian rye sourdough bread; seemed to be the best option at $12.95, but then it turned out that shipping bread fresh from the oven of a Latvian farm matron to NYC and then by airplane to the nearest airport was a bit more expensive - to the tune of $49. Damn. - One loaf of special strawberry bread from Illinois. $8.95. Their online ordering site was down! Egads! - Polish Party Pack!!! Yes! If it weren�t for the prohibitive price - $50 - I would have been all over this one. Party Pack from Millie�s Pierogies of Chicopee, Mass., includes 6 pounds of pierogies in assorted flavors, two rings of kielbasa and a jar of horseradish. Damn, I REALLY wanted to get this. - Other sausages; first stop was an Italian sausage place right down the street from my parents! Best part of this shopping experience were the photos that accompanied the company profile (Ooooh look! There�s Rod packing some sausages with a devilish grin!) and the individual product descriptions (extreme close-up of hand-stuffed sausages in various shapes and sizes. Ew.) Unfortunately, this too was expensive and I just couldn�t bring myself to send a sausage, being a vegetarian and all. - Gallons of Utz Potato Chips or Snyders Pretzels. Oh, lemmie tell ya, I was PSYCHED to learn that my favorite ghetto potato chips ARE ONLINE! UTZ! Not only did they sell mass quantities of junk food, but an adorable beanie doll and weird sports merchandise. I also stopped at Snyders long enough to become an official member of the Snyders of Hanover Pretzel Eaters Club - yup, my membership card is IN THE MAIL, BABY! That one is going in my wallet. - Amish Shoofly Pie. Is it just me or is there something inherently wrong with Amish online merchandising? Hmm. And they were OUT OF SHOOFLY PIE! Wassup wit dat???? High demand for the holidays, I guess. Right. Yeah. So there are some great finds out there. If anyone wants actual links, I put them on my site, www.dreamwater.net/slithytoves under �beamish boy.� After all that, tho, I didn�t get anything. Yeah, go figure, eh? I checked out beer of the month clubs too, because I liked the idea of forcing my parents to drink beer and picturing them kicking back with a brewski, but those things are fucking expensive! I was going to settle on a big hunk of that weird vodka cheese, but the shipping was almost twice as much as the actual product, and it seemed just silly to spend that much money on um.. cheese. Ah well. I learned some valuable things in the process. Like where to get some scary pecan sculptures (an onion factory, of course!). And where not to by bread (an Eastern European country). I really wanted that bread tho. Maybe when I�m rich. Oh yes! I had something else to say! About Honey! Just when I think Honey can�t possibly get any cooler, she goes and puts up a #sinister radio station!!! Yes! It is absolutely genius! I mean, we�re a bunch of music fans presumably getting together to discuss music (although how much this actually happens is questionable) so it makes sense that we should have a venue to not only make music recommendations to each other but actally LISTEN to the music too. What happens is this: individual #sinister folk can peruse a massive collection of 5,000 mp3s and select songs for the radio playlist which the rest of the channel can tune in to on a streaming sound connection. I�ve been enjoying being DJ, forcing people to listen to Aden and Scud Mountain Boys and Kingsbury Manx and, yes, Crystal Gayle, Barry White and TLC. Hehe. I think I�ve made some converts, and I�ve discovered some new music meself as well. Anyway, having said all that I�m NOT going to give you the direct link cause then the station would be flooded with users which would be NO GOOD. So you�ll just have to go to #sinister to get the addy. Muaahahaha! This is really my sneaky way of getting more of you into #sinister. See how that works? Clever, eh? Oh yeah, my poppa don�t call me smartass for nothing. Er. Smart. I be off now. Behave! Wishing you lots of nog and snog this holiday season, ~dahling ps: is anyone asking santa for Athenian airfare for Christmas? Hmmmm? My latest picnic plan is to take over a wee club here for a sinister party. Mmm hmm. So let�s fill it! pps: I actually wrote this last night but fell asleep before I could send it. True story. But I made it to 6 p.m. I think! Thanks guys. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sat Dec 15 01:24:56 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:24:56 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?slowly;_it=B4s_all_falling_down.?= Message-ID: <209163412@spray.se> Hey sinister, thought I´d write a sinister sinisterpost today. Well, it´s not something planned. I think I might be in love. Or I am at least having a serious crush on a boy in my school. It´s all doomed to failure from the start. He´s two years younger, which makes me feel like an old pervert, like the old, sad person who can´t find boys in her own age. But it´s not like that. It wasn´t really something I planned. It was just that when I see him everyday (his locker is quite near mine, just around a corner).. well.. I began to get this very funny feeling in my stomach when I saw him, and it´s only grown bigger since. It´s horrible - When I see him I get this dubblesided emotion: Angst because I´m NOT supposed to like him, I´m supposed to fall in love with the boys who likes mopeds and only wear cool clothes and who just plays cool. But I also feel this strange connection, because I know that he know I like him, he looks at me and smile a bit or gets very shy when I look at him and he always look me straight in the eyes. Maybe he´s just suspicious. This strange girl who keeps staring at him and then stare att her shoes. I do not know what to do with all my feelings for him, he´s just so beautiful, he´s so cute and he always play ping-pong during the breaks, even if it´s just a five-minute-break, he´ll run through the corridors to find a ping-pong-table to play on. Reasons why I should NOT let my feelings keep growing like this: *He´s two years younger (13!) and it makes me feel like an old pervert. *He´s probably in love with one of those "cute" girls in his class, and in his age! *He´s quite a bit shorter than me, which I always get a bit angsty about *Even if it went well, if we would become a couple, no-one would get it, they´d just tease me (and him) and they´d be horrible. I know them. I am one of those persons who dream a lot. This is what I dreamt about him the night between thursday and friday: Me walking a bit behind my friends, when he runs up to me, and walks beside me, saying, ina sort of mumbling voice "Umm.. umm.. y. y.. you.. umm.." lots of times, and finally I say "Sorry?" and he say "What? I didn´t say anything". When I get to my locker with my friends, one of them tells me that he REALLY said that he wanted to "go to an italian restaurant and then walk in the new neighbourhood" but that I didn´t get that. all of the sudden, me and this certain, this girl and I are sitting in the school cafeteria, eating our lunch, when I all of the sudden say "That was a lie you told me, wasn´t it? He didn´t say that for real, did he?" and she kind of laughed in a sort of depising laugh saying "Of COURSE I did, Astrid, you didn´t honestly think he´d give a damn about you, did you?" and I just stood up and tipped her glass of apple juice over until the whole table was covered in apple juice. Then I dreamt that he and his twin brother was walking the opposite direction, and I turned aroudn and looked at him, and he looked at me all the time and I knew that he was the only one. Dreams like that stay with you for quite some time. Hmmm. I can´t just forget him, and give it up. I just can´t. His name is spelled A-D-O-R-E. Is my name spelled P-E-R-V-E-R-T? Confused, but still, love, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Spray Jul 2001 är här! Roligaste julen på webben. http://www.spray.se/jul/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 05:02:01 2001 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:02:01 -0600 Subject: Sinister: santa gave me a house! Message-ID: hey kids... yes the big fat guy gave us a house for an early christmas gift. but he didnt send a team of strong burly, yet gental and considerate moving men along. which sux. i have to do all most all the moving my self too cos my mom is a busy body & likes to do the setting up of things once they get to the new house. my stepdad is just about the laziest sack of shit i have ever met in all my life and would sooner stand there and watch you breack your back as you lift a 250lbs. filing cabinet than to offer to help. he wont even watch the kids for you while you move the stuff from house to house. what to do? well if it were not for my being a good christian girl, i would be consulting with a witch of some sort to put a nasty hex on him. so instead i let off steam on you lovely little twee ones, and curse at him under my breath.... b&s content..... i was quite over joyed today when i put some new r.a.m. in my computer today and unlocked all my music files & listend to "o'come o'come emanuel" by our favorites scotts.....it made the day seem worth it all. i suggest you all give it a listen! the love of my life chatted with me yesterday...even tho we are not ment to be, something about hearing from him makes the world make sence for a moment. even tho hes not at all physicaly attractive, i cant stop thinking about him...*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*.... mabey if i wasnt a good christian woman i would go back to my friend who does hexs and have her make a love potion number 9. sounds like i want to controll people...i know.... oh and guess what?....my birthday was great! my friends gave me a surprise party. it was really fun actually & i had not had a fun birthday since i turned 14!and even that wasnt as fun as turning 25, cos i didnt have to controll 35 drunken maniacs in my mothers house. i know sounds fun but it really isnt... well i gotta go back to moving everything so i will go now. -Angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 07:16:36 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:16:36 -0600 Subject: Sinister: thank you for bein' a friend..travel down the road and back again....your heart is true....you're a pal and a confidante...thank you for being a frie-e-e-e-e-e-end. Message-ID: <57C82DCBAFCBC70438F709BF0C374125@chinacat81.wildmail.com> this past sunday evening, i sat down with a cup of coffee and thought about what the week might bring. i'd like to say this is a weekly ritual, but that's just not true. i only did it because last week brought a funeral, an armed robbery, and a monstrous teenage girl who bumped into my sister and knocked her to the floor, breaking her elbow and rendering her useless for the remainder of the junior varsity basketball season. it was a strange week. so i decided i'd sit down and imagine everything that could possibly happen in the next seven days, thus sparing myself at least a little bit of potential shock, fear or disappointment. now, on a friday, the week has brought the following: A) the much-anticipated return of 'bitchy erin,' a sixteen-year-old noodles employee who was suspended for two weeks after her deranged boyfriend broke house arrest for a bowl of sesame lo mein, resulting in a jerry springer-style shouting match during the lunch rush. erin's hasty dismissal brought a spattering of applause from staff and patrons alike. her red-faced return left most of us speechless, although a certain flamboyant associate manager can be accredited the words 'help me jeebus, the bitch is back.' B) some lovely shimmery grapefruit-scented lotion C) undeserved words of gratitude from a hippie-turned- microbiologist. i met him on an email list during my freshman year at valparaiso. the timing couldn't have been better, really. he called himself a 'turnip,' but everyone else called him 'the dharma bum.' at the time, most of my evenings were spent sipping port out of a coffee mug, carefully directing the cigarette smoke out the window, listening to django reinhardt and dreaming of a mountain climber called japhy...with a little goatee and an impressive collection of portable cookware. of course. i was bored out of my mind, and jeff was out of money. so we had ample time to chat. he was living in maine, saving his pennies for enough gasoline to get to the west coast, and dividing his free time between his cello and me. nearly ten years my senior and bursting with 'real life experience,' he was full of wise words and literary recommendations. eighteen years old and stranded in a town that would surely rank among america's sleepiest, i really had nothing interesting to tell him. just silly stories. about the infamous 'stickshift sarah' and about my roommate's 'glutes and abs' workout video that starred this girl with hilarious breasts. (i can't remember why they were so funny. but they were.) and i told him about the stupid parties, about the 'valpo popo' and about drunken frat boys belting out 'redemption song' like some kind of anthem for the affluent white male attending a private university on a basketball scholarship. there really wasn't anything else to tell, and i felt sort of bad. but we kept in touch. spring break came around, and a rainy evening found me sitting on the sofa, watching seinfeld with my parents and racking my brain for a way to escape. the telephone rang, and my mom said there was 'some man' on the line for me. jeff had finally saved the money for his cross-country journey, and he was warming up at a milwaukee pizzeria and wondering if i'd care to meet him for a bit. so i drove out and found him, and we chatted for awhile and had some tea and custard, then he hugged me and sprinted into the pouring rain and drove off to oregon. i didn't hear from him for several months. when he wrote again, he was living in a greyhound bus with a crew of environmental activists, chaining himself to trees and fine-tuning his survival skills. we wrote back and forth a few times, and he kept trying to convince me to come out and join the organization. he insisted that the only things i needed were a good pair of shoes, an understanding that i would see my peers dragged off to jail in chains, and an acceptance of the fact that sooner or later, it would happen to me. believe it or not, i was tempted. but i declined, and he stopped writing and i felt i'd let him down. a year passed, and he dropped me a line to report that the organization had sort of rotted and he was back in school and feeling good. i wrote back to report that i was hopelessly intoxicated in the french riviera. after that, i didn't really expect to hear from him again. but then....yesterday, i received an email from a familiar name. and it said 'thank you.' and i'm still not sure why, although i've read it several times. something about going through 'some strange things' and really appreciating my friendship, and that although we hardly know each other, i have played 'a significant role' in his life thus far. help me jeebus. all i ever did was impose upon him with some of the lamest anecdotes ever told. hm. not unlike the way i ramble on to all of you. sorry, by the way. but i guess that if, on a certain day, what he needed was a detailed account of an unsuccessful attempt at 'natural refrigeration' (taping tubs of ice cream to the wall outside a third- story window in january).....then i suppose he was probably talking to the right person. goodness. oh. D) four pairs of socks, a new composition book and a large bottle of cheap vodka. hah. eleven days. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From supergirl918 at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 08:25:12 2001 From: supergirl918 at xxx.com (Jill Henkels) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 02:25:12 -0600 Subject: Sinister: out of the nursery Message-ID: yeah, i have just succeeded in surviving the nursery period. and how do i choose to address you all in my first post: drunk. for weeks, i have jealously read of your excitement of an upcoming b&s show in your nearby towns. alas, i live in iowa, usa--nowhere near where my favorite band will be visiting. sigh. i shall live vicariouly through you, friends. i do however, have the band to thank for my particularly enjoyable and homey evening of last. thats pretty much all that i am capable of writing today before i collapse on my floor. classes are over next week; i shall soon develop something of interest to add to the discussion. with love and affection, jill ********************* You will conform. You will perform. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 09:42:17 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:42:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: That lovely bus... Message-ID: Ah Saturday, must be time for me weekly splurge of useless information! Just for those who may be interested and don't know already, the bus to Belfast will leave from Liberty Hall (in Dublin, silly!) at 4pm next Friday. There shall indeed be pre-journey debauchery of a sort, but we haven't quite decided where yet; others may be better qualified than me to choose! There are some seats still available and the more who travel, the cheaper it'll be; at the moment it's looking like about 20 quid a head. So if yer interested, give me a shout on 086 3424095, and don't worry about being trampled in the stampede. Grainne, I could've saved you the hassle of ticket-buying as I have a spare which I'd completely forgotten about amid all the other excitement - sorry 'bout that. And thanks for canvassing at the Frames site, someone may crawl out of the woodwork yet. Alrighty, I'm away - I'll be in touch with the usual suspects during the week. Oh, and kiddies; don't forget to change your money! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 13:34:10 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:34:10 Subject: Sinister: dream of the bowling kids Message-ID: Hello everyone. It�s a Saturday afternoon. It�s that small period of time after I�ve got out of bed but before the football�s started, where the only thing to do is to write to Sinister. So here I am. First things first though, we must say happy birthday to everybody�s favourite trumpeter, Mick Cooke. He�s 28 today, y�know, according to various posts from a while back. It seems obligatory to cite an archive reference in posts these days, so for all B&S�s birthday�s, see here: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200109/msg00016.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199807/msg00795.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199807/msg00794.html http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199711/msg00035.html The NME published their list of Top 50 records of the year. Predictably, it was wrong, although not as wrong as it has been in previous years. So to set the record straight, introducing... ASM�S TOP 10 (WELL, 11, BUT WHO GIVES A F...) ALBUMS THAT SAY �� 2001� SOMEWHERE ON THE BACK OF THEM 1. Air � 10,000 Hz Legend 2. Kings Of Convenience � Quiet Is The New Loud 3. Pulp � We Love Life 4. Spiritualized � Let It Come Down 5. Sparklehorse � It�s A Wonderful Life 6. Mercury Rev � All Is Dream 7. The Beta Band � Hot Shots II 8. Radiohead � Amnesiac 9. Alfie � If You Happy With You Need Do Nothing 10. The Avalanches � Since I Left You 11. The Strokes � Is This It At the moment, that�s the order, but it�s changed loads since I started making the list. At various points I�ve been convinced that all of the top four should be number 1. I had something of an epiphany regarding �Let It Come Down�; I thought it was a big pile of wank until about two weeks ago, when I suddenly realised how fucking brilliant it was, and haven�t stopped listening to it since. ...dream of all the bowling kids who hang around here... London Bowling Mummy, whoever you are (Ken?) � what�s happening about that? Anyway... Festive love, Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sat Dec 15 17:53:42 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:53:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister:Sinister:Sinister:Sinister:Sinister:Sinister:Sinister:Sin ister:Sinister: Message-ID: <20011215180540.MRZD27606.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.96.13]> Christmas is coming then! J'aime Noel Beaucoup. C'est tres interessant (Whewnever I am asked in French what I think of something, I always say interessant or ennuyuex. Yes, I know i'll flunk GCSE if I carry on like this) Also, I wish to participate in International sinister bowling day. The only Bowling Venue I know of in London is somewhere horrible on the North Circular, I hope someone knows somewhere else as that place is a pain to get to as there is no tube station and I am pathetic at using buses. I know two Bus routes: The number 31 from Camden to Notting Hill via Swiss Cottage, and the number 27 from Somewhere to Hammersmith. Using these two, you see, I can get from Camden to my Mum's house and From my Mum's house to my Dad's. I have decided that I will get my hair cut very early in the new year. I have so far managed to go without getting it cut since January or Febuary, when I got it very, very short indeed. Not Shaved, but bloody nearly in places. I wish some of the people I have to get presents for would post, perhaps mentioning that what they want for Christmas. I have been looking in the archives, and have bought one present but am not sure about the others. Now: A terrifying story. People who were terrified by Bambi should not read this bit SCARY********************** It was a normal day when I got home from school. The birds sang in the trees and all was quiet. On the mat lay a letter for me. Oh, that's nice, I thought. Picking it up, however, I was shocked to discover it was from the INLAND REVENUE! Arrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh......!!!!!!! I thought. quivering wit fear, i drew the curtains throughout the house and sprinkled Holy water around the place before having myself exorcised. Then, using a specially and totally sealed chamber with gloves in from which I could work in safety, I opened the letter. To find out it was to tell me I had been given a National Insurance number, with a little card with my name on it in. I felty all grown up and put it in my drawer before destroying the rest of the letter and envelope in a 100000000000 degrees Celcius oven, just to make sure. END SCARINESS***************************** That was scary, wasn't it people. But don't worry, it has probably happened to most of you already. I notice that hardly anyone has posted today, which I am very upset by. I am bored and need some Sinister diversion but yet there is none (aside from #sinister, of course). That will do for today, though Joe P.S. Has anyone noticed I did not use the phrase "but there you go" _once_ during this post. I'm very proud of myself. P.P.S. This was also probably my quickest post ever. They usually take me a 45mins or so but this took only 15/20, which explains it if it is total rubbish. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Sat Dec 15 18:26:58 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:26:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Watch out for rhinos with hairy feet Message-ID: <20011215182658.20353.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> Hi y'all. This was in last week's issue of the New York Press, and I thought I'd pass it along, seeing as how it might be of interest to all of you: Music Reviews Jessica Hundley Ya’ll Get Scared Now Ya Hear? Reindeer Section (pias) What happens when a group of musicians gets drunk together? If you live in Glasgow, play the guitar and hang with the likes of Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap and Snow Patrol, then one debauched night can apparently equal an overload of inspiration. Masterminded by Snow Patrol’s Gary Lightbody, the Reindeer Section is a supergroup of sorts (consisting of various members culled from the above acts) and formed as the pleasant result of one such fortuitous evening. After a bout of guzzling fine Scottish brews and philosophizing about the state of music with his fellow indie rock brethren, Lightbody woke up and wrote the entirety of this debut album in one jam-packed day. Less than two weeks in the studio, a few more rounds of booze and a band was born. The beautiful thing about the album is that the haste in which it was created has enhanced, rather than detracted from, its solidity. It’s as if any hesitation would have allowed the magic of that one beautifully woozy night to fade in the sobering light of dawn. Perhaps the most misleading record title ever, Ya’ll Get Scared is as far from frightening as one can get. Throw aside any expectations of spooky goth rock or foreboding industrial–this is a world of pleasantly pretty ballads and infectious pop numbers that recall Beck’s Mutations. The album kicks off with a tidily constructed acoustic love song, "Will You Please Be There for Me?" that sets the album’s tone: vaguely melancholic, slightly introspective and undeniably sweet-tempered. There are a few raucous numbers (such as the back-to-back chorus distortion on "Raindrop" and "Sting" or the near metal thrusts of "Tout Le Monde"), but for the most part the album steers a steady, sensitive and soulful course. The breathy, heartfelt vocals that thread throughout the disc create a satisfying atmosphere of longing, but Lightbody’s plaintive lyrics keep it afloat. "Be my hope I’ll be your hope," he sings on "If Everything Fell Quiet." It’s as if all the yearnings and desires of that original one drunken evening were crammed into each of the album’s tracks. Apparently Lightbody felt something that night, something stronger than the Scotch ales, something he needed to scribble down in the midst of sour mouth and throbbing head. The result is an album that reflects the good-natured camaraderie between talented friends. Together they have managed to translate one night, a little booze and some good company into music that’s as simple as it is beautiful. I haven't heard this album yet, but I might pick it up... what's the verdict? I haven't heard it mentioned too much on this here list. that's all from me... a totally content-full post! what an odd concept... cheers, eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Dec 15 23:05:32 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:05:32 +1300 Subject: Sinister: hard, fast and beautiful Message-ID: <001f01c185be$849014c0$ce6137d2@computer> Hey kids ..... Sorry, this is short and irreleveant to most of you, but should anyone be interested in photos of a Sinister listee (namly me) getting married, my wedding photos are here: http://go.to/lawrenceandvanessa Like I said, sorry to the 99% of you who don't care, but I know there are a few of you who might. best, Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Dec 16 14:30:26 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:30:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Careless Reporting Back Costs Lives Message-ID: <000901c1863e$9d493700$a75c243e@pjmillerwanadoo> THE FUTURE OF MUSIC I have joined the MP3 revolution. So far, I've managed to download songs by Kylie Minogue and So Solid Crew, and a *picture* of Lenny Kravitz. I have been accosted by a purple gorilla, directed to the hottest porn today, tempted by one-armed bandits, and all manner of other unpleasant experiences. I have been told that I don't have access to this page or that page and that Mick Jagger's 'God Gave Me Everything' is not a full song (note emerging Lenny Kravitz theme). Is it always like this? If so, I'm going back to taping the top forty. Taping the top forty is the high water mark of my pop experience. CARELESS TALK COSTS LIVES Promises an article about B&S in Brazil. Has anybody seen it? LIST MUMMIES GO BELFAST I think the list mummies should go to Belfast anyway, spread a bit of their magic. CHRISTMAS ...is a time of year when I like to think about Northy. I'M WASHING UP TO US PF said George Harrison made him want a hug. He also said George Harrison is washing up music. Don't go round to PF's when he's washing up, or you'll end up covered in fairy liquid bubbles, like in one of those fairy liquid bubble fights that were so popular before paintballing came along and ruined everything. I think George H's moog extravaganza 'Electronic Music' would be the best washing up music, but I've never heard it. I imagine it would make the bubbles grow and grow, until they filled PF's house and started emerging from the windows. BRING BACK STUART DAVID! It's just an idea. Those ragged edges, that hint of menace. These things are missing from recent B&S recordings. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From avalonia at xxx.com Sun Dec 16 19:24:08 2001 From: avalonia at xxx.com (andrew thorpe) Date: 16 Dec 2001 19:24:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i left my wood panelling on the embassy coat rack Message-ID: <20011216192408.14695.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Dec 16 20:15:00 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:15:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She's Bowling It Message-ID: Dear Sinister, Long time no see, I believe tonight is a Sunday night. I am a bit ill, but I'll write you anyway, cos I love you. (Especially Erin, because I'm her best friend). Wahey! B&S gigs next week! Woohoo! Ok, time for important stuff.. SINISTER INTERNATIONAL BOWLING DAY - 29th DEC Soooooo, how are you all doing on the Sinister International Bowling fronts? Hope you've all been practicing putting your fingers into uncomfortable holes! For the London-ish area bowling boys and gals then: ********************************************************************* 29th Dec, Finsbury Park Bowling Place (Can't remember what it's called), which is right opposite Fisbury Park bus/tube station. I am gonna book a couple of lanes soon.. would the time of 2pm be okay with everyone? Let's all meet at the Fisbury Park Bus Station then at 2, and then we can have hours of bowling fun. Any problems e-mail me, or phone/txt msg me on 07967 755445 on the day, or anytime if you want to tell me how much you love me. ******************************************************************** Big Stu said: >I've come to the conclusion that while the Camera Obscura album may be a >pleasant listen, it is clearly a summer record. I can imagine myself >relaxing to it, wandering around in shorts and T-shirt, watching the specks >of dust in the sunlight from the window. Only if you live in the Southern Hemisphere, I dunno, there's just something not right about singing "..happy New Year you're my only vice" in the middle of June. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Hey - are there any meet-ups before the Glasgow gig? Someone should TAKE CONTROL! Heh. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Dec 16 22:09:00 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:09:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: twiglets and hedgehogs Message-ID: Dear sinister, tis the season for end of year lists/polls, especially ones about your favourite records or albums of the year. there are lists of certain publications favourite 10/20/50/100 albums from this year all over the shop. am i the only one who finds them annoying and pointless? "but they're just a bit of fun" i hear you cry, well maybe. but i personally think that any list like that seems to stop people talking about the actual records in the list, and instead the conversation will turn to pointless 'this should've been higher than that' or 'wheres...?' type statements. such lists are not conducive to good conversation. plus these lists always ignore more left-field choices in favour of whatever has been fashionable this year - as shown by the strokes/white stripes topping almost every single list i've seen. so maybe the 'wheres...?' claims are not that unjustified, but what i mean is that people tend to start picking apart the lists rather than the records themselves. so neither the artists nor the music benefit particularly. why are the white stripes better than sparklehorse? because they are higher in the chart. seems rather silly and self-defeating if you ask me. nobody did ask me, but i'm saying it anyway. what i'd prefer is if people picked their favourite records of the year (whether it's just one or more than 500) and said what they like about them, rather than playing radically different records off against eachother. am i being overly harsh on list compliers, or is the whole concept of best of the year lists inherently flawed? are such things symbolic of a society obsessed with quantifying everything - having to turn art into sport? do IPC subeditors dictate our youth? answers on a postcard please joe pancake/rachel vester said something along the lines of: "Jeanette Winterson, who is the most abrasive and disagreeable author I can think of offhand. She writes in an irritating way and just takes herself far too seriously while generally being pretentious. And being a total bitch." all of which seems fair enough. she is certainly abrasive and very pretentious (especially some bits of 'the passion' i found that book very difficult to get to grips with), though i would say someone like Joseph Heller was more disagreeable, not because of his politics or anything, but more because of his 'clever' style; which i find almost impossible to like. while jeanette winterson is definitely pretentious and abrasive, i think you have to admire the singularity of her vision - and i think her writing is very affecting at times. i'm not a huge fan of hers though, so perhaps someone who is could do a better job of defending her. i only mentioned her in my post because she seems the complete opposite of JK Rowling and her awful harry potter books which are so fashionable. i'd much rather someone like winterson was en vogue (though i don't think ms winterson herself would enjoy it). the kids reading harry potter could do with an injection of pretension i think, if only so they know what it looks like. JK Rowling once did a visit to the library where i work to promote the first harry potter book (before my time there though i'm afraid), apparently it wasn't very well attended or anything - whereas now just putting on a crappy 'harry potter activity day' basically consisting of the books on tape (the steven fry ones) being played at considerable volume, and an amateur party wizard bloke coming in draws out all the local kids and whips them up into a potter induced frenzy. how times have changed. thats enough for now i think i'm listening to autechre at the moment - thats not very twee is it? i must try harder at that yours faithfully kieran _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Sun Dec 16 23:42:05 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:42:05 EST Subject: Sinister: T.O.P. Message-ID: <144.678d2a3.294e8b4d@aol.com> Lately I have been going on a lot of walks--sometimes I go alone and bring along music so I don't get lonely, and sometimes my sister goes along with me. But mostly, I go alone. I live in a neighboor adjacent to Bittersweet Park--and, for some reason, this neighborhood is called Bittersweet. As a kid I didn't realize the meaning of Bittersweet--I merely associated it with a color that was some orangey brown in my box of Crayolas; right now I can't actually remember if there ever was an actual color called Bittersweet, but this orangey-brown, perfect for coloring in the empty outlines of a running Deer--I called it such. Once someone visiting from out-of-town commented in this odd name for such a place--Bittersweet is a weird name for a neighborhood and a nearby park. My friend answered his question by saying "Children play here, but blood has been shed." I like the idea of some ancient mishap going down at Bittersweet park; the settlers drinking the tainted water from bittersweet lake and going nuts and killing their own children. I know it's ridiculous of me to want such a thing to have happened--but I can get away with it because I know it didn't occur. Bittersweet was some before-sleep daydream constructed by a bored mid-70's developer. Twenty years ago this was dirt. But I often take a walk by the park. The other night I made a new friend--a jaunting collie that was chasing geese. I never know what to do with my hands and arms when I am walking. One could move them back and forth merrily, but I always feel sort of dorky doing that. Usually I end up shoving them in my pockets teen-angstily. But I was walking along and this Collie jaunted beside me throughout the duration of my walk, eventually coming to regard me as its owner--perking up at the sound of my voice, obeying my random claps and whistles. We walked together for a while, all around the park and then through the neighboring houses, and I eventually lost my new friend. I had daydreamed of me actually being able to live that 12-year old's fantasy of "He followed me home"... but, I lost him somewhere. Last weekend I decided to take another walk with a B&S mix tape I'd made. It was mid-afternoon, around 3:30, and I had to weave through about three hundred canadian geese that were milling around the sidewalk--I was really enjoying myself, don't get me wrong.. the setting sun and the frosty air accompanied with a few of my favorite Belle and Sebastian songs. But I did find out something I didn't know; I never know what to do with my hands when I am out walking, but I found that a few hand claps can stir hundreds of geese into flight. lv mandee +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Dec 17 10:26:12 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:26:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Anyone need tickets for Glasgow B&S gig on the 20th? Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F809B57AF@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> Hello, I thought I'd let you know that I *may* have two spare tickets for B&S in Glasgow on Thursday ("may" because it's only about 80% certain that I'll have them spare), so if anyone's interested, can they email me off list? It may be 24 hours or so before I can confirm they've got the tickets, so apologies for that... See you in Glasgow :) Mark xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Mon Dec 17 16:48:33 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:48:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stories from the town, stories from the city Message-ID: <001201c1871b$14f127e0$fa7c883e@oemcomputer> Kieran Devaney pointed out that it is the season for end of year poles... and I couldn't agree more. With that in mind, I've compiled my own list. So, without further ado, the top 9.5 most credible records still on sale during the 2001 shopping period (sponsored by Jo Whiley): 1. The Best of the Beatles - The Beatles 2. Beethoven's Fifth Symphony - Beethoven 3. Nevermind - Nirvana 4. The Number One Hits - Elvis Presley 5. White on Blonde - Bob Dylan 6. Billie Holiday - Greatest Hits - Billie Holiday 7. Experience Hendrix: The Best of Jimi Hendrix - Jimi Hendrix 8. OK Computer - Radiohead 9. The Very Best of Frank Sinatra - Frank Sinatra 9.25. Is This It? - The Strokes 9.5. White Blood Cells -The White Stripes There, I trust I've covered all my bases. On a slightly less pissy and sarcastic note, I'd like to qualify my comments on the Tompaulin album. Someone said a while ago that they disagreed with my comments on it, well, I think perhaps I was a little harsh. The truth is, it has some wonderful songs in it, particularly All Your Favourite Records, Daydreaming, The Boy Hairdresser and Second Rate Republic. However, there are also a few problems. 1. About a third of the album is filler, songs that really aren't important at all. 2. Of the rest, two of the tracks I already have on other records. 3. Because I'm used to their almost flawless E.Ps (the B-side of Bootboys single excepted), I was probably expecting a little more than I should have been. So my reaction is mostly due to circumstance, and I would still recommend it as a heartily worthwhile recording :). Well, I think that's it from me, nothing else much interesting has happened yet. Though Kara it coming to visit little old me in Inkland soon, so that should be wondrous :) Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year all, Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com Mon Dec 17 15:47:11 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com (Daplyn Elizabeth) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:47:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash Message-ID: <8CE702C232760243B95B5ADBE849E3474B41C1@CWMBSMAIL01.eu.thmulti.com> Buenos lunes a todos mis amigos. Three quarters of an hour on the way to work is a long time (some of it, indeed, on a bus), but it's much better with a lovely portable CD player. And an hour at the weekend reorganising my music collection (in the course of an almighty cleanup in preparation for Christmas sparkliness) has led me down the memory lane of P!O!P!, if you will. So I listened to "At the Club" by Kenickie this morning as I wandered towards the bus station, boarded the (luckily correct) bus, and finally disembarked in the *industrial park* (park? As if, tchah) whose precincts I have the particular joy to be working within. The bus passes a convent on the way, which is intriguing, but that's about all that's interesting about my daily morning journey, apart from bringing me into contact with schoolchildren again after a lacuna of several years, which is of note purely due to my continually recurring amazement at the varied habits of individual species of the aforesaid. Picture my amazement at just how tightly teenage girls can tie their hair back these days. The lad and lasses of Kenickie are a couple of years older than me, so I was listening to the album first when I was emerging from my nasty (navy, with pink gingham shirt) school uniform into the relative freedom of the Sixth Form Dress Code, and entirely appropriate for those bleak times it most certainly was. "We can't work with heavy coats - they're not revealing; We've got to see each others' clothes, and now we're freezing..." Despite not coming from Newcastle (surely an oversight on the part of the Creator) I empathise with this. Brrr. Although at the time I was more interested in having the right Doc Martens and cardigans (which are much warmer than your customary leopard-print clubgear) to wear down the bog-standard live indie nites at Gillingham's Oasthouse Community Centre (famed in song and story). O the Medway Towns, how very horrible you are. Speaking of sartorial matters, I have fantastic new pinstripe trews with simply enormous turnips. Sorry, turnups. You know. I may wear them bowling *some day soon*. *** <> Andrew, Martin Creed is not particularly Minimalist. Speaking as one with a passing acquaintance with the movement, it's about being true to materials (see Carl Andre) and spaces (Richard Serra) and architectural form (Donald Judd) and concepts (Robert Morris). Although Creed could be shoehorned into any or all of these categories, it would be anachronistic and facile. And besides, he ripped my degree portfolio off with that light thing, which is to say, he has good taste ;) Feel free to call me an arty wanker. Many have. ** And who amongst us is going to be feeling Strangely Fruity in London for the New Year? Bugger 'A Child's Christmas in Wales', I'm heading over the border. Spent a while last week constructing my Sinister exchange presents and wrapping them up lovingly (OK, hurriedly, I had to catch the post). And after all, what can be more joyous and fulfilling than an hour with a hot-glue gun and a project to complete? Besos (pero solamente a _unas_ personas felizes) Liz D :x "And people say, the games you play; You're either weird or lonely" The Beatified Nicholas Drake, Esq. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Dec 17 15:21:24 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:21:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nice day for a spam (one glasgow ticket for sale) Message-ID: Ten pounds and a kiss and it's yours. In true Jools Holland style, E-mail, phone/text me (07967 755446) with the reason why should you be sold a B&S ticket. Ken P.S.: Sorry for the short message I'm still a bit ill - I'll write properly next time. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk Mon Dec 17 15:30:06 2001 From: Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk (Doyle Patrick) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:30:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: goodbye...............for now Message-ID: Hello all, sorry I haven't sent alot of messages over the short time I have been a member of the list, but I have loved reading all your mails. I recently failed my Psychology assesment (bugger) probably due to my lack of essay writing!! Anyway, the Christmas holidays are on their way and I won't be able to read your mails for weeks now! so I'm tempararily unsubscribing from the list. I can't wait to see you all at the Glasgow gig on Thursday and im sure the gig will be great, Anyone know whos supporting??? I will re-subscribe to the list when school starts again and no doubt I will fail more Psychology assesments..ah well! Patrick Doyle, "The kid with the crimped and overheated hair" P.S Anyone whos going to the Glasgow gig please come and say hi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dangerous_mike at xxx.com Mon Dec 17 20:55:36 2001 From: dangerous_mike at xxx.com (Michael Grant) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:55:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow meet-up? Message-ID: >Love and Red Bulls >Ken >P.S.: Hey - are there any meet-ups before the Glasgow gig? Someone should >TAKE CONTROL! Heh. GRRRRR! im taking control. (ish) i propose a meet-up in a drinking establishment before we go to belle and sebastian. not the most radical idea in the world, i know, but i think it'll do. i was thinking of the qmu itself, *BUT* its no longer term-time, is it open all the time? will it let in large numbers of non-students? anyone who can help me, let me know. i may be being silly and the qmu is an option, but i propose curlers as a venue for a number of reasons. 1. - its nice and has a (reasonably) good jukebox. no b&s, but more indie-ish than poppy. (blur, gomez, etc) 2. - its right-next door to hillhead underground station, so anyone coming from far away (ken?) or just the other side of the city, can get there easily from the centre of town. 3. - its a 5minute walk away from the qmu. 4. - i will probably be working in echo records in byres road on thursday, and curlers is right across the road. if we meet there, then i can be lazy and not walk very far! 5. - its one of the 'its-a-scream' pubs, and students get yummy discounts!! 6. - ive been drinking in there for a couple of years now (im 18), so it shouldnt be *too much* of a problem for any mini-sinisterines to come along. (not that im condoning under-age drinking or anything, but if those youngsters are gonna drink, then would it not be better for them to do so with the supervision of big and wise sinister folk?) this is a provisional plan, and if anyone can see any major flaws in it, then let me know. if anyone has a major problem with curlers, again let me know. time : eh...when is it acceptable to start drinking? if im not working ill start drinking early, (bout4?). if i am working, ill just try and get off work early. (bout4?) hope to see lots of people there, mike.xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Dec 18 09:46:04 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:46:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She's Bowling It - Part 2 (LONDON BOWLING PEOPLE PLEASE READ) Message-ID: Haha at the risk of looking as if I'm trying to organise a Chicago Sinister Picnic, here's another e-mail about SINISTER BOWLING DAY - LONDON BRANCH. CHANGE OF VENUE? Okay, I know I said Finsbury Park, but a couple of people made a couple of good points: 1) You have to pay a quid to get into the Finsbury Park Bowling Place. 2) There is a bowling alley in Canada Water with a DDR machine! Would anyone object to moving the venue from Finsbury Park to Canada Water - seriously the bowling alley is a lot nicer there, and I know that it can be quite far to a few people but it's only a tube ride away. So what do people think - can everyone who is thinking of going e-mail me now, stating your preferred venue (Finsbury Park or Canada Water or not bothered) so 1) I have a vague idea of how many people are going. 2) I know which place to book for. Thank you for reading, if you are not interested, I'm sorry. If you are interested, can you e-mail me now please. :) NOW! Your rubbish Bowling auntie Ken P.S.: on a different note - I have had 3 hours of sleep last night, and someone at work brought in some reaaaally dreary Christmas music, and now I don't know if I'm dreaming, or just having a bad dream. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Tue Dec 18 12:52:11 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:52:11 -0600 Subject: Sinister: blah blah blah Message-ID: hi everyone, well, it's been an interesting week. London was more fun than i remembered, and the small scottish towns were an absolute blast. i'm still recovering from last night though. the nicotine is killing me i think. I am currently in an internet cafe on st. vincent street in glasgow. it's quite nice. i'm not sure what to do with myself over the next few days, but i'll find something. any suggestions? well, i'm sure i'll see some of you at the gig in a few nights, so see ya! -matt p.s. this post reeks of worthlessness and list abuse. how awful of me. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Tue Dec 18 15:01:19 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:01:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: And now, the end is near, and 15-odd people have free presents... Message-ID: <20011218150119.77375.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Dearest Sinister, Well, after 1 year and 9 months under your spell, I must feel compelled to leave for a 6-month hiatus. In a way, it seems to be the norm, leaving the list for a while then rejoining and viewing through the nursery cot bars... I really want to mail honey the magic word(s), though. Has anyone said them out loud? I haven't, the threat of nursery for life was enough to give me a chill! Anyway, I'm off on holiday between 20th January and 14th June, which is why I can't stay on the list. My inbox is too fragile to stuff 1000 emails into as the check-up time between Russia and China will be about 2 weeks. I'd like now to give a heartfelt thanks to all the listees who have agreed to meet me, and an even bigger thanks to those who will put me up (put up with me!) for an evening (or 4 in some cases!). It gives you faith in people to know that there are some willing to take a poor traveller off the streets. I hope to reward you with gifts, plus my charm and presence (or is that presents?!). On that note, the list below have been sent gifts already (i.e. today). In some cases (a-hem, Mr Mikkelsen!), these gifts are about 8 months overdue and STILL not complete! Anyway, I would very much doubt they will arrive for Xmas, but hopefully by the 20th January. If you could email me upon receipt, I would appreciate it. I went to a post office, which WASN'T my beloved local one, and the guy at the counter was a rude and abrasive fuckwit. I'm worried he's just taken my money and put the parcels in the bin. Placation is required, could one and all please email me just to confirm receipt! Mr Stuart Arnot Ms Hannah Brown Ms Rachael Chrisp Mr David Clark Ms Jeanette Eastwood Mr Rachel Fruitloop plus company. Ms Kate Hargrave Ms Martha Hart Ms Maja Kucharczyk Ms Amy Longcore Ms Jules Markham Ms Helen McLean Mr Lawrence Mikkelsen & Dr. Vanessa Selak Mr Will Salt Ms Ola Szkudlapska Lisa, your is ready but awaiting an address! The highlight of the forthcoming holiday is that I don't have to burn CD's - I must have made 120 in 3 days! Argghhhhhh. Oh, and sorry to write your name. Now you're tainted with being associated to me. Ha ha ha. Wow, it's about 1% of the list, too! in alphabetical order, as you're all so special and I don't want anyone else offended. Should the other 99% want free stuff, well, you didn't email me! Send some and I may put something together next july. I have a further announcement. I have selected my favourite 3 emails from sinister. I have 2 email addresses (you will be contacted...) but the third is NOT IN THE ARCHIVES!!!!!!!! Not that this is causing aspersions on honey's archive virtue...! So, if the owner of the message (added at the bottom of my email) could step forward and email me, I'd like to congratulate you and shower you with free stuff! I know this is list abuse as there is no content. Please feel content that I am content. A big well done to honey and all the surrogate list mummies - I can say without a doubt that there is no list quite like this. The weird thing is the way it hits me. I sort of go "Ooh, I like corduroy"; "Ooh, I like New Order!", realising that there are people out there who are more than the ONE BAND the mailing list alleges to adhere to. It's unique in the way we all possess similarities beyond liking B&S! You're all wonderful people, and hopefully I can say it for certain once I've met most of you for real! Well, that's all I can think of for now. From mid-Jan on, my new email address will be nikoisonholiday at yahoo.com - please feel free to brighten up that inbox with stuff which'll give me a smile in Sub-zero Russia, or Sub-Saharan India! I'll see you all in the future, Love Niko xxx THIS IS THE EMAIL. WHOSE IS IT?! it's worth reading, i laughed my ass off. Arse. I apologise profusely, but I have been under some not inconsiderable strain of late. My mind has been plagued with a recent event but my therapist is an oaf with a Milwall FC pen and would not begin to understand. So, like Mel C, I turn to you my dear Sinisterettes, sure as I am of your discernment due to your avowed musical preferences. Let me illuminate you. I am a man of impeccable breeding and discernment. Sent down to improve and edify those less refined than myself by the powers that be, I have successfully infiltrated all sectors of society and bought Titian to Toxteth, Mozart to Mile End, Goethe to the Gorbals. Call me a missionary if you will, it's a position I accept. Alas, however, although my faculties are great my means are finite. Thus after a period of some self-denial, I was able to afford a fine '76 Veuve Cliquot I had been hampering after for some months. A night of joy, one will surely agree, lay ahead. But calamity lay along those darkened streets from the merchant to the maisonette. The usual hurdling of the homeless was easy enough, but how was I able to anticipate interception by a blackguardly youth? Stepping out the shadows with a Stanley knife he sneered at me. "What you got in the bag, prick?" Now, I fear no-one and nothing, and rather than take this as a threat, I decided to take it as an opportunity. To drink alone is a tragedy, so why not wean this infant off his 'Special Brew' (Pah! 'Tis the milk from a dastardly whore!) and introduce him to the finer things in life. My god, I could even play him Electronic Renaissance! I reached into the bag, brandished the bottle. Wanting him to read the label, I thrust the bottle into his face. Oops. I swear he edged forwards but the glass shattered as swiftly as the bridge of his nose. What had I done? I had to make amends. I noticed the break (the bottle, obviously) had been clean and most of the precious nectar was still in the 60% of the receptacle I was holding by its neck. We could still share a drink after all...I adopted the tone one must with these common types - a brusque street drawl with profane inflection. In my role as educator, I felt a paternalistic tone of address was necessary. So, parrying and thrusting (I cut a dapper figure with the foil) the bottle towards him so he could sample the bouquet, I stated "Come on sunshine, you fucking want some?" and the scamp scampered. Half a bottle gone and a social rejection in the same evening. Really, some of the plebiscites have no manners. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Dec 18 16:14:10 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Rachel PY) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:14:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I love my Ken Message-ID: Hello, This is Ken's imaginary girlfriend Rachel speaking here, before you say "ahh, you're not, you're writing", I am actually speaking at the same time, so there. I am writing because Ken has been so busy recently organising this organising that and basically being bloody boring, but, being breathtakingly beautiful besides being bewilderingly bright, bequathed before me is my mission to write something on behalf of my beloved Ken. Because I am betrothed to him, afterall. Ken is very excited at the prospects of seeing Belle & Sebastian so soon, bless him, I can't see the fuss myself. He had already seen them three times this year. The boy is just full of obsessions, this strange band, curry, chilli ramen, this funny coloured energy drink, me. After the gig Ken and I are going to travel Scotland to see Ben Nevis and Loch Ness, he seems very keen to see some girl called "Nessie" but I don't know what he sees in her, or maybe I'm just jealous. I'm more elated about meeting Mr Nevis - although he is no match for my Ken. We'll then return to Glasgow to meet up again with some of Ken's friends, after that Ken and I are going bowling! In London! Oh I love London, and I love bowling too, he is still deciding on exactly where in London they're bowling but he is going to book somewhere tomorrow before driving up to Glasgow - don't you love his sense of responsibility? Poor Ken he is really tired out now, he had 3 hours of sleep last night and the night before and he had to do quite a bit of work today - I think he is becoming delusional, I better go now to make him a nice bowl of soup. You all take care. Rachel PY _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Tue Dec 18 16:47:19 2001 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:47:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dream of all the bowling balls that hang around here Message-ID: seasonal greetings sinister, Isn't it quiet round here at the moment? I have this image of listees hibernating in duvets in devans and in dormitories at this time of year. Their laptops lying silent under a crisp veil of new fallen snow. It's where I'd rather be. That is until the INTERNATIONAL SINISTER BOWLING DAY on the 29th. There might even be prizes for Twee-est bowling action, lowest DDR score and coldest reddest nose. Hannah Brown saw Trevor and Simon! (cue blank looks around the world). Well the other evening I was in my living room watching the Joolz Holland tape for the umpteenth time when my housemate Sarah asked who's the guy singing? Why that's Stuart Murdoch says I. He looks like Trevor (or she might have said Simon), out of Trevor and Simon, she says. No he doesn't, I says. And that was it. You should come round to my house one day, the conversation's sparkling. Well that's it really. At least there'll be something new in my inbox when I next check. Pretty snowflakes to Cay, SGS, Tim Hackett(wanton Lurker), and the amazing Rachel Fruitloop. Ben xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Tue Dec 18 17:21:14 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:21:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You don't mean to say that I hold in my mortal hands a nugget of purest *green*?! Message-ID: <004b01c187e8$6e8bc260$81293c3e@pbncomputer> Coo coo ken chu...(*surely* that one's already been done?) I think it's near enough the time to start sobbing audibly over the lack of gigs I will be going to, but I won't cry too hard, because I did that last time and then miracles happened and it turned out I could go. I found out on the *afternoon* of the Preston gig that me going was a real...reality. Having never been to a gig before this, can you imagine what this did to my little mind? Blown away my friend, blown away. Well, a fine ma-hock to you all. As recent days have turned into yet another whipping frenzy about sinisterbites meeting sinisterbites, I'd like to throw in a small note relaying my presence in Sheffield, and the beautiful possibilities of some form of meet-up in this whereabouts. I'd be especially pleased to hear from the younger end of 'bites, but most of you older indie kids will no-doubt have seen me twisting and contorting myself across the dance floor anyway, so it'd be great to "do lunch en-mass" (i.e. sandwiches and ribena under an umbrella in the Peace Gardens or @the forum, even if it's full of metal freaks). Enough of that, as I know most of you feel excluded by now and think, "Aw, not another non-post" etc. Oh no, not another non-post, this post has real meaty content, in the form of Tompaulin, the band mentioned by few, loved by the same few. I am one of those few, even if I do prefer the singles. But, I went to a gig the other day and boy was the sound engineering a load of lemons. Feedback almost constantly, no vocals for ages etc. I felt really sorry for them and had a good dance anyway, which I think (hope) he appreciated. I e-mailed an apology to them, quoting the name of the place ("Fuzz Club"), and in the reply he quipped, "Fuzz Club indeed, Tom, fuzz was all I could hear!". Hee hee! Anyway, the bassist woman smiled at the few who made the dancing effort and said, "We knew we'd pick up some dancers in Sheffield" to which my friend jovially replied, "What was that? Sheffield sound engineers are s**t?!" to the audience's giggles and the sound guy's chagrin. Christmas is just around the corner (why do people say that? It's right infront of us, in a perfectly logical quantitive period.), and how does the education system wish us a merry Christmas? With fun christmas quizzes! Known to many as exams. A world of pain, my friend, a world of pain. I know this post is a bit short, but I hope you don't mind if I end it now, do you? It's just I thought I had something interesting to say, which just goes to show how wrong you can be. I can't be the only person who suddenly looks at a post and thinks, "that's totally boring", can I? I reread it, and just when I thought I had fallen asleep I realise I'm dead. Sorry to all those I'm disappointing with this mediocre driiiiiivel. Looks like I don't deserve to spend any more time in the presence of literary masters like half-bees and warrior angels wearing the latest knitwear. I'll try harder next time, my little dears, and until then remember that I love you all. Yes, even you Ken. *mwah* Spacehoppers, Corduroy Boy Tom (The boy at the end of the queue under the mistletoe...ha ha...) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 18 19:15:29 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:15:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "it's oh so kwiaht!!" Message-ID: <1008702929.3aa7a3f0h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> And it is indeed "KWIAHT" because i am back in the sunny world that is leicester.I had a great weekend eating alabama, no sorry, Alaska cake. I also played stupid drinking games which resulted in my friend projectile vomitting all over the carpet/ wall/ door/ freshly baked mince pies, mmm. Now i am home and i don't really know what to do with myself even though i have shed loads of stuff to do. I watched the top 100 number ones WITH MY PARENTS the other day and it was tres amusing. everytime something from circa 1969 came on they would nod their heads in agreement. Then the fugees came on and they they both started crying " who's this then, well I'VE never heard of them" Then Collio came on and dad declared, "this is a fix you know, look at the state of his hair, i can't BELIEVE they haven't had the beatles yet" Then, it was Brian Adams at number 10, Dad screwed his face up, " oh, come on, who voted for these, what happened to abba and Queen?". Luckily Abba came on next and they shut up for a while. Parents eh, don't you just love them. I might pop along to the bowling for a few hours so i might have to call you (ken). i will warn you though, i am BRILLIANT at this game and will thrash you all, well, only if the sides are up so perhaps that doesn't count. AGGG, my minds gone all fuzzy, i was going to say something but it has gone, ah well, i will probably add some jism later,lots of festive love, hannah. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk Tue Dec 18 21:00:15 2001 From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (James Alexander Jackson) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:00:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Llama Ranch Message-ID: <001801c18807$010ad400$0100a8c0@heyjupiter> Hey, Just wondering if anyone's sorted the Belfast meet up? will we go to the limelight then? it looks good, i was talking to a girl last night and she says it a pretty solid night on Fridays. On another note, went to see Ash last night in the Ulster hall, with two Australians and my aforementioned friend. They were pretty good, but, aside from playing 'teenage kicks' they did 'only in dreams' by weezer, and in the middle Tim and charlotte faced each other really close up for about 3 minutes, just watching each other and playing guitar... it was one of those really eerie moments where the smoke and light kind of silhouetted them, but not quite, and it was just the sexiest thing ever! Probably just good mates though... Don't know if any of the rest of you were there, but there's more tickets for Wednesday, and as such, I would commend it to you! Usual apology for waffling, hope to see some of you on Friday, really excited now! Sir James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 19 13:58:17 2001 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:58:17 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: singing, knitting, bowling, sleeping Message-ID: aw look, sinister's hibernating for christmas. shhh... i don't really like to break into this silence with a boring 'non-post', but i need a break from cataloging grammar books. (is that how you spell the present participle of 'to catalogue'? or is it 'cataloguing'? maybe one of these lovely grammar books will tell me.) bored though i am, at least all the students have gone home so i can stop being smiley receptionist girl and play cds through my pooter at will. had a nice singalong to tigermilk yesterday, despite competition from the technicians next door and their rawk. normally at this time of year i'd be starting my annual knitting phase, but imagine my distress to discover that my knitting needles have vanished. i rather suspect that my housemate has stolen them to murder her boyfriend with. how am i going to impress anyone with my earthy creativity now? my christmas cards are home-made, i suppose, but i have a less than cordial relationship with Pritt-Stick so they're not too professional. the process of moving to a new flat is proving interesting. captivated by it though i am (think jane fonda in 'barefoot in the park'), the lack of a freezer has led to some problems getting my reccommended daily amount of ice-cream. we resorted to dangling a tub of hagen daz out of the window in a carrier bag secured with wool (i think kirsten mentioned something similar), which i doubt would have ultimately worked, but luckily i decided to eat it all that evening. i'm tempted by this bowling lark now, i must admit. but there were no girl bowlers in the big lebowski, and thus no role model, though i dare say i could knock up a nice purple outfit like john turturro's, if i find my knitting needles... anyway, if anyone is in the south-east and can't cope with the fierce competition in london i'll arrange a sesh in brighton (the bowling alley is right by the sea so afterwards we can re-create those bowlie beach moments - though probably with snow instead of sand). finally saw ghost world, which was great. it made me consider how you can either deal with outsider status by exaggerating it (and still being unhappy) or by trying to make yourself invisible (and still being unhappy). i did the latter when i was a teenager. i'm still not sure whether i would have been better off making myself a caricature like enid - at least i might have made an impression. is there a middle way? come on, some of you wee sinistereenies must be well-adjusted. well, after six uninteresting and unconnected paragraphs, i feel i've done my bit to lull sinister off into our winter sleep. may festive flights of arch(ang)els sing you to your rest. luv archel xxx ps. i'm re-reading the fellowship of the ring at the moment, and every time i come across a reference to 'archet' i do a double take... spooky. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 15:00:55 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:00:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "You'd break my carriage porker, shove it!" Message-ID: Kieran Devaney pointed out that it is the season for end of year poles... and I couldn't agree more. With that in mind, I've compiled my own list. So, without further ado Ken's end of year poles top 5 (sponsored by Nokia phones and sms messaging) ==================================================================== 1. Andre Wadjza - famous filmmaker in the 1950s. (cay) 2. Marie Curie - discoverer of radium. (will) 3. Lek Walenska - fought for freedom for his country men and women (gavin) 4. The guy who invented pierogies (sarah) 5. The goal-post that stopped Bayern Munich's shot that would have prevented the dramatic last minute win by Manchester United during the Champions League final in 1999. Now the sarcasm is over I'd like the say that, despite loving Chicken Curry very much, I might stop eating it. 1) Half of the Chicken meat are fillers - did you know that? Half of the chicken meat you get in take-aways are actually water - they use some chemicals to glue the water droplets on the chicken to make it weight more. Surely it'd cost them less to just feed the Chicken more poo in the first place. 2) Two types of chicken curries - chicken jalfrazi and chicken tikka massala - I have already eaten before. 3) One time I ate this gorgeous chicken curry - from "Savera's" in Nottingham, some would even say it was flawless. No curry's compared with it ever since. Ok I fibbed, I don't think I'll ever stop eating curry, for I'm currrrrrry craaaaazy (a la a great tune by "Bad Dream Fancy Dress"). Hey do I fancy a take away? Yeah why not. Curries and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 15:33:33 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Marianna Longmire) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:33:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: hearts are everywhere References: Message-ID: well they are for me anyway. just days ago i was walking along brighton beach with some pals shouting "we are the mods" and laughing heartily when i stumbled across a stone that looked just like a love-heart. "hoorah!" said i, "i'll put that in my pocket and hope it brings me love, or rocks." then this afternoon i decided to be nice to my flatmate and help her make cottage pie for her boyfriend. i grabbed a potato from my stash and lo! it was a love-heart shaped potato. happily, when looking at it from the side, it can also be fashioned into: cleavage, a butt-crack and dodgy looking bollocks. photos, of course, were taken and merriment was had by all. x marianna ps. i'm very exited about tomorrow night. see some of you there, i'll be the one with the heart of stone. or maybe potato. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 17:18:44 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:18:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Achtung Message-ID: <20011219091844.N780@24-205-57-185.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com> For those of you in the LA area, driving up the 2 late at night, around 11:00 to 1:00, that's me going 80 and singing all the songs from "If you're feeling sinister". It's the only thing that feels right when you haven't had a day off since Thanksgiving and just worked another 14 hour day. Fishing for sympathy, m. -- A student, filled with emotion and crying, implored, "Why is there so much suffering?" Suzuki Roshi replied, "No Reason." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 18:30:54 2001 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:30:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast, childish glee Message-ID: Hi list, This is my first post in years... All i wanted to do was express my trembling excitement at B&S's first show in my favourite town - in the very hall where I almost drank myself to death on numerous occasions during my student years... Oh Friday, when will you come? Not only the show, but the start of my Christmas Hols. Becoming a teacher (I Rule the School, as it were) was the best thing I ever did.. TWO FULL WEEKS paid christmas holidays. Re the Menagerie bar in Belfast, more than one person has told me that Struan once played an impromptu secret solo show there - is this true or was I misinformed? About a friday meet-up, The Botanic Inn on a friday is an horrendous cattle-mart where no reasonable human being should go. The Bunatee in the Union Building may be closed, as it's out of term time. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest a plan for those interested: the basement bar of the Empire Music Hall from about 6pm onwards. It's a good bar, and they also serve cheap and tasty meals for those who may arrive in town hungry. If this doesn't suit, email. See youse all, Ian. Tim - give me a phone at home _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 18:45:21 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:45:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: who would've thought that you could care for me? Message-ID: <20011219184521.62531.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> so i've been reading this book called "the perks of being a wallflower" by stephen chbosky. its all these letters that an anonymous 15 year old boy has written to *you* (the reader), about his life and the first year of high school. it's very very good. sensitive, yearning, etc.... talks alot about music, one song in particular: "asleep" by the smiths. the kid has good taste. anyway so i highly recommend this book to any who, like me, love coming-of-age stories. about the new single: i finally bought MYSELF a copy of it, and i think its grate. IWUTU is a very funny and clever song. stuart's vocals sound VERY reminiscent of LOVE (another band i highly recommend) i seem to remember hearing somewhere that b&S have been influenced by Love. ILMC still hasnt really hit me yet, but just give it time and i'm sure it will. M & E is a really really good song. as you all know. *******anecdote******* ok, so i was drinking a cold beer in the shower. (if i had a dime for how many of my stories started off with that exact line) anyway. i really enjoy drinking an ice-cold beer in the shower. its the perfect dichotomy of the ICE COLDNESS and the STEAMING HOTNESS. so i'm soaping up and singing to myself. i think i was singing Nina Simone's "i wish i knew how it would feel to be free" and i've got shampoo all up in my hair. i take a nice drag off the old beer and set it back in the handy shower head rack thingy, and it slips from my grasp and through the back of the rack thingy and falls, shattering against the edge of the tub. now, my head is still full of soap, and my feet are covered in shards of glass and beer AND the floor of the bathroom is also covered in glass and beer. and to make things worse, right before i had even taken a shower, the bathroom light had burned out, and the only bulb i had was a red lightbulb, so the whole bathroom was bathed in a very intense dark red light. anyway, it was a hassle but i finally got it all cleaned up without slashing myself. the red light made things difficult, but it DID throw an interesting air of surrealism and absurdity over the situation, which is always welcome. anyway that's about it. hope everyone has a nice long weekend. be safe & laugh alot, ok? lots of love and non-slip beer bottles...........caleb ben ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Wed Dec 19 19:01:59 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:01:59 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Christmas music & private recordings Message-ID: <20011219190159.4526727AD3@mx02.osite.com.br> Dear Sinister I have finally found the perfect soundtrack for Christmas: the Lillywhite Sessions, by Dave Matthews Band. I remember reading in here someone asking if it would be a complete contradiction liking B&S and DMB, and I don't think it is at all! In fact, I feel like there is something of complementary between DMB and B&S, as if the Dr. Jekyll part of me listened to B&S and the Mr. Hyde part to DMB, or vice-versa - as Robert Louis Stevenson is some kind of Scottish national author of the XIXth century , the metaphor sounds more than appropriate. For anyone who hasn't heard of it before, the "Lillywhite Sessions" is the perfect DMB unreleased album, much better than the blockbuster "Everyday" and much, much darker, lower and heartfelt. The tracks are flying from HD to HD through the internet and pleasurably I managed to have'em on my own in august. When my mother was decorating the tree, and my father was coming from shopping, I was listening to track 6, "Captain", and realised it just fit for the moment. But I don't really know why. Somehow, everything made sense. I will try listening again to my Aimee Mann records. I suspect they're going to fit too, as much as my recently acquired Ellen Cherry material (thanks, Mel!). Tomorrow I am starting the rehearsals for a CD I will record late January, with my own compositions, which I am going to play on piano, alongside a female singer and flautist, a percussionist and a bass player. Ok, it's gonnna be a Ben Folds Five-like record, but that was not on purpose. These were simply the available musicians. Unpleasurably all the lyrics are in portuguese, so I will not be able to share the results with everyone in full. But I will try to write bilingual sleeve notes. Wish me luck, please... Everybody needs some. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Wed Dec 19 20:26:55 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:26:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast, childish glee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello all, on 19/12/01 18:30, Ian McKinney at the_gibber at hotmail.com wrote: > I'm going to go out > on a limb and suggest a plan for those interested: the basement bar of the > Empire Music Hall from about 6pm onwards. It's a good bar, and they also > serve cheap and tasty meals for those who may arrive in town hungry. If this > doesn't suit, email. This sounds like a good plan. I will be there. If you tell me where the Empire Music Hall is. Can we have some kind of call sign so that we will be able to recognise each other, and I won't have to go up to complete strangers and suffer embarrassment when I ask them are they are going to Belle & Sebastian only to get the reply "No, but I hate cockfarmers like you" before glassing me? So how about, I will be ostentatiously reading the NME while my glamorous friend Rener will be glancing around the room glamorously. And just so that you don't think I'm some oldarse who happens to be in the pub reading the NME by sheer coincidence, I am actually an oldarse so don't be afraid to say hello. incidentally, for the purposes of this meetup my name is not Dirty Vicar but Ian. does anyone know if the Nelson Mandela Hall is the kind of place you can bring cameras into? in other news, I went to see Stereolab but was a bit too *tired* to appreciate them. The Jimmycake played a stormer of a set before them, though. bless you all. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 20:54:32 2001 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:54:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: recognition in belfast Message-ID: The Empire is about 5 mins walk from queens uni, on Botanic Avenue. That is the street that starts from the back of the main queen's uni site and goes off to the left towards the city centre. While arriving in the empire, I suggest ever carry a copy of the NME/ Guardian Friday Review and/or dress in an outrageous manner, for recognition purposes. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Dec 19 23:22:02 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:22:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She's Bowling It Final Chapter (NEW MEET UP INFO) Message-ID: Hello, Sorry Finsbury Park's been outvoted 7-2 so we have a NEW meetup place: We're now bowling at 3pm on the 29th Dec at "Hollywood Bowl" (the pun!) which is near Canada Water tube station. So we're going to meet up there - 2:45pm at the tickets hall of Canada Water Tube Station (tickets hall = where you buy the tickets) The lanes are only held for us for 10 minutes so please be on time. If you can't see me give me a call 07967 755446. Any problems e-mail me or call me. Otherwise see you soon. Off to Scotland in 6 hours, um, better go to bed really.. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Thu Dec 20 00:17:49 2001 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 00:17:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: recognition in belfast Message-ID: <3C215DBC@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> hullo again i'm sure we're starting to really annoy non-belfast gig going listees with all this talk of busses and meet ups and such like, but i've said it before and i'll say it many times again...RAHRAHRAH! for those of you who are going to be there, just thought i'd let you know that there will be defence forces at hand in case the NME carrying hordes are set upon by glass wielding ho's and spides...there's 10 of us on the bus from dublin, we're leaving at 4 and should definitely be there in time for some pre-gig revelry no pre-arranged recognition is necessary - you'll spot seamus from 20 paces! (sorry seamus!) looking forward to seeing everyone there trishdelish ps saw lord of the rings tonight - a bit brutal, spent much of the 3 hours peering out from behind my scarf, but undeniably epic all the same - go see! >===== Original Message From "Ian McKinney" ===== >The Empire is about 5 mins walk from queens uni, on Botanic Avenue. That is >the street that starts from the back of the main queen's uni site and goes >off to the left towards the city centre. > >While arriving in the empire, I suggest ever carry a copy of the NME/ >Guardian Friday Review and/or dress in an outrageous manner, for recognition >purposes. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 10:09:44 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:09:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I'd rather be fat than be KenChused. Message-ID: <20011220100944.11051.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> HELLO SINISTER!! I just want to tell you lot a couple of things... 1)I bowled at the company Christmas bowling party yesterday and got my highest "granny rolling" score ever: a 79. 2)Ken Chu is *all talking about talk and no acting on talk*. If you recall, he wrote: "Are there any girls who wants to play the Flirt Over The List Game with me? Basically you can tell me how good I am publically on the list and then I can write back something about how wonderful you are? Or are you all just going to snog other boys too?" And then, I tried to participate in the Flirting Over The List game in my last post. I have not heard one-single-word from Ken. But he repeatedly mentions Erin, which is confusing, since Erin is my middle name... but I know it's not for me. SO WHAT GIVES? Not Ken Chu, apparently! Which leads me to... 3) Snogging Other People (at least, that's what we say we're doing!) Hey, a lot of people confuse me! But I know of several Sinisterines who have/will be taking airplane rides to visit one another. It's really wonderful in my opinion. I like our little incestuous family. I can hardly wait another 10 days before *My List Crush* Mr. Ben Apps arrives on the loverly shores of Southern California! Hi Ben! I'm winking at you! I'm not even going to mention how jealous I am that some of you get to see B&S!!!!!! Ok, so I expect to hear some "reporting back" on all fronts soon! Question: Do you think if I send cookies I made to my Sinister Pressie Exchange Recipients along with the gifts that a) they will withstand the journey overseas? b) that it will make up for the fact that I haven't mailed the gifts yet? and c) that said cookies and gifts will make KEN CHU notice me? Good luck to Nik on his rings around the world adventure!! See you in May, Niko! Also shout outs to the usual suspects! And love to you all, Sinister! love, Rachel fruitloop P.S. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Thu Dec 20 11:03:02 2001 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:03:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: being taken places Message-ID: <20011220110302.IJIM22946.fep04-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Here in a railway carriage: 06:30am; darkness outside; dark shaking sound and feel under: the rumble of unwoken bones and struggling machinery over metal lines seizing in frost-bitten contraction. A sharp rip of ticket from the role in the guard's shoulder-bag electrical dispensary, then a slight G-force as we all decelerate towards a local hault: a shed and short platforms affair in a former spa town. '"Her name is *Rene*/ If she told you her name was Alice, she was lying"/"What the **** is...[the rest is unintelligible]"/I want to take you away from here/...' sings Gavin Henderson* Maybe because these carriages are hurtling through only a black, with a low moan and chattering asides, I'm thinking to see made-ups. A film I saw once, say, that featured an encounter between the painter Egon Schiele and his Viennese mentor Gustav Klimt in a scene of studied decadence: a wintergarden furnished like a merchant's house by the Bosphorous: the soft beauty of golden beading on the edges of expanses of crimson velvet; decanters; tobacco through various contraptions; freckles of lapus lazuli and elephant-ferns intermingling with her shock-tresses: eyes flashing like those of a wild animal in a Blakean forest of the night. The reflections on the window fade to a new focal depth. From the Forth Estuary, the foreshore of the current horizon, rises a flame some 100 feet tall; the product of an oil pipe from the far north; prehistoric fossil-crushing; titrations and filtrations in submarine-technical spaces; heavy industry powering distant agendas; spirits millions of years old finally escaping skywards from their underwater strata. 'Before you eat me',said the graptolite to the orthocerus, 'shall I say we'll meet again one day, in a flame?' " Oil was discovered in Iraq on October 14, 1927, in Kirkuk. As so often happens in the Middle East, the event was violent and unexpected...Shortly after midnight, a worker decided to lift the drilling bit from a 1,500ft hole [so as to clean it]..."** He got 140ft worth of black stuff at a rate of 80,000 barrels a day. The cleaning was put on hold. I can see a BMW 3 series out of the window, recogniseable not from the form of its bodywork, which is shrouded in the pre-dawn, but by the configuration of its break and tail lights swerving in a chunky turning circle by the track. It's an assignation with a transit van, one of whose white flanks is rendered by the light pouring out of this train. And gone again. Pear-infused grappa is settling into my brain now, and the images of a now indolent artist's model leaks into myself and an arc of lights which are the streetlamps of an urban connurbation and the memory of phosphorescent plankton on hebridean waters. Reducing further, perceptions and articulations veer towards sleep, but in a nether state, before dreams gain their own logic. 'The curse of the West' says the Russian writer Andrei Makine, [I paraphrase] 'is the curse of words; when words prematurely replace that which they are employed to represent'. So I'm content almost uttering interverbalisms like a chanting of the mad; begningly hypnotic prefaces to sentences. I'm content to betray these words and descriptions because even caged in argument and counter argument, there are tangentials which make the cage itself part of the scenery, rather than the nature of the situation. The situation is mysterious, child-like, life-like. Gordon * 'Words and Music', Sympathy 7, Starfish Records 2001, SRDC001 [Edinburgh Band] ** 'The Middle East: The Arab States- in pictures', Sterling Publishing Co., Inc., Two Park Avenue, New York, New York 10016, 1978 _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 11:53:11 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:53:11 -0600 Subject: Sinister: What's purple, orange, and sinks? Message-ID: A baby with slashed floaties. The flipside to that coin you ask? What's red, orange, and floats? A slashed baby with floaties. So I'm in an internet cafe on St. Vincent Street in Glasgow. Have I already posted from here? I want to say I have... ...I just looked and I have. But I don't care. Fuck the pirahnas, I'm building it anyway... I have 30 minutes until I can register for classes next semester, so you are keeping me company until that time. Feel good about yourselves. If you've done nothing else with your day/week/life, you've occupied me and entertained me. That's quite an accomplishment. I've basically spent a lot of money in the past few weeks on cd's and drinking. I had a proper meal for once with dimitra yesterday, so I felt a bit better than normal. By the way, everyone should make it a point to meet dimitra. She's just the best. You probably won't have to go far. Chances are, she'll be in a country near you in no time. :) So belle and sebastian are playing tonight. I'm sure I'll get excited a bit later. It's a bit early. Excuse me if I start giggling like a 'wee' schoolgirl and hopping about. Let's all pray it doesn't come to that. The new gorky's cd (is it new?) is pretty good. I suggest you get it. I think the Mull Historical Society album is decent as well, but I can't say for certain until a few more listens. The new Pulp is..well..it's Pulp! Okay, you are all spared. I'll see some of you tonight I'm sure. I'm gonna make some phone calls...and make things happen. -matt _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 12:23:43 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:23:43 EST Subject: Sinister: It's Summer in *my* head Message-ID: <7a.1fda3a58.2953324f@aol.com> Oh! I'm so excited about things now, Isn't it amazing how putting on a record can totally grab you and make you see the world in a big summers day light, I just realised that all my dreaming and plans are soon to come to fruition. I have so much to do very soon and all of it is fun. The winter just can't get to me at the moment cos Saint Etienne is playing and I have found a body for the car I'm building, the place I'm working at is dishing money out at me the like of which I've never known and soon I'll be visiting Maja in Poland! Feels like everything I've been working for months is coming into bloom. Wow! I love being me at times like this. Sorry, but for some time I really have felt like I was in a rut getting nowhere and my (somewhat lofty) plans would never come into being and now that hard work has paid off and I may well just run down the street and shout at people with excitement after I've written this. Also today, when I was on my bike coming home from work this morning the thought "what is beauty(full) and how do we define this" and why is it that not all people see certain things as beautiful" Lada Riva Using one of these fine automobiles as an example, have you looked at one lately in depth? cos I reckon they possess a kind of simplistic beauty yet most people would agree with most other people that they are totally ugly. Is this the 10,000 thou' line between very beautiful and ugly? So (in a very roundabout sort of way) putting my newly discovered "Lada Riva theory" in to practice I question music. Broadcast are brill! but... Are they really any good? Much as I now place them ever so highly, when I first bought "Noise made by people" For about the first six months of ownership I only ever listened to "Come on let's go" cos rest of it just did sound like some noise made by Brummies. Then as l gradually heard bits of other songs they didn't seen so bad and tunes appeared from beneath the bleeps and drums. Now getting back to the my theory, I'm not sure if I have come to appreciate the music or that perhaps Broadcast only made one good song and the rest I just kind of got used to? I've just read back through what I just wrote and it's possibly not as much of a breakthrough as it first appeared because it would also explain the reason why people like drum 'n' bass, hard house and anything else that is without dought utter shite. Oh Ben (of Swiss Cottage) Do I ow you money? If it's more than ten pounds then you understand the chances of seeing it again are rather slim. Seriously though let me know won't you. Bloomin sister She goes off and gets herself in BIG (monster) debt and I have to lend her like nearly £200, Thats one thing but why did she have to coincide this with the week I go to see B&S. I can't afford to go now and I feel poor. ^ look, content Anyhow... I'm working nights at the minute and I quite like it After yesterdays shift I was really tired but some of the gals were going to have a drink round Roy's house, I tagged along for a *couple* of drinks. Suddenly I was wide awake with excitement as beakers were being filled with Tia Maria and offered around. The couple of drinks turned into an all day event anyway and it came out that this Richard bloke had a peanut allergy and the thought of Russian Roulette with a bag of Revels flashed though my mind. After spending most of the day there we made our way to work and hoped "Drunk in charge of a label gun" was not a serious crime. It's a good job without dought but I'm saving and having *plans* about visiting places. I was thinking that being as I'll be in Poland in January I could start there and then perhaps go and get lost for a couple of months in Europe before meeting up with you Greek picnic superstars in March. Yeah sod it, I'll do it! If you've read this FAR then you must have taken leave of your mind. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Thu Dec 20 13:43:31 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:43:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: so i broke into the palace Message-ID: HIEPERDEPIEP. as of yesterday i have officially entered the world of popmusic. last evening we played our first gig, and it was okay. right now i am listening to the minidisc that was recorded, and it actually is better than i thought. but the really really really good part is, that the first song that was played when we finished was... BELLE AND SEBASTIAN! and then they played the flaming lips! and then they played placebo! and then they played some more songs but i don't remember them. i think i started jumping around on stage when i heard the first tones of electronic renaissance, and i still want to jump around if i think back. that's all for now. have fun tonight. love marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 13:58:12 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:58:12 EST Subject: Sinister: "hey, remember when we dated and you were 19 and you thought I was 16? well, i'm really five years younger than you!" "i see." "do you?" "i do." Message-ID: 'ello sinister. I haven't posted in a while, so for those of you who've made it a point not to recognize my ramblings: hello. I think I'll start off with a new name and call myself sethe, because that's usually what my pen name is. So hello, I'm Sethe, and yes, I took that from a Toni Morrison book. This week I let an old boyfriend know I was five years younger than him. A feat accomplished! Someone posted earlier about the perks of being a wallflower, which would be a great book except it was published by mtv. I read some poetry last night which was insanely pretty. It drove me nuts for hours, and left me lonely to no end. When I listen to Tigermilk, the first four minutes and 56 seconds leave me lonely to no end. (IS 'state' four minutes and fifty six seconds? seemed the right number..) The Belle gig is tonight, isn't it? For all of you lucky enough to be attending, have a positively GRAND time. Are any sinister types going to be in New York on january 2? I have nothing planned for that day and it would be nice to meet.. whoever's on the list now and is living in new york. I think I'm meeting up with my friend Max that day, who's also on the list, so you can meet both of us (us being very interesting and.. erm..). Well, I'm vegan. If anyone wants to yell at me for being unreasonably uncompromising, they can email me. If they want to do it in person in NY, even better. :-) I feel an impending sense of responsibility over my head that says "talk about something that's been on the list lately, talk about something that is belle and sebastian related, talk about something that these people can relate to.." Lemony Snicket is brilliant. Along with Nick Bantok. And Sempe. I like books with pictures. Pretty pictures... pretty books. B&S content: an aim conversation had with a friend friend: what do you liiiiike friend: er who me: who do i like? me: i like myself me: and i like men to kiss my arse, expensive clothes.. still me: :-) i talk too much: i crack myself up disgusted and not a belle fan friend: oh you sped sped being special ed. kids, always cracking themselves up, of course... I'm off to read chabon and to think about the reasons why I don't want to see myself on speed. lots of love to you all! cheers h (..i mean) cheers sethe xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 13:58:17 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:58:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And little Cindy-lou Who said "That Belle & Sebastian mob are ok, ain't they, Mr Grinch?" Message-ID: <001f01c1895e$6f0defc0$4c907ad5@oemcomputer> So, the QMU approacheth soon. Should be interesting. I wonder how many of the kids will last out until the 2am chucking-out time. If anyone wishes to say hello to me, watch out for the tall skinny kid, dyed red hair, wearing a red spiky collar. I may or may not be glittery. Time shall tell. Events will no doubt be of a festive bent. Mayhap there shall quaffing of festive ales and stuffing of chicks. Umm, sorry, I mean turkey. *grin* My head is pounding. Nurofen is not strong enough. Damn the makers of such feeble painkillers. I wonder if I should throw an item of underwear at Belle. It may be amusing, in a surreal way, to see her instant expression of disgust and/or lust at the skid-marked boxers flying towards her. Only kidding. My undies are as pristine as always. Mainly because I'm not wearing any. *grin* Volunteers to start a mosh pit? - Jase +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Thu Dec 20 17:02:31 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:02:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nonsense, darling, I wouldn't lick a German if he was glazed in honey... Message-ID: <002e01c18978$2e42dfe0$922f3c3e@pbncomputer> I found myself pulled into an awkwardly shining post, not recognising the e-mail address of the sender. I should have recognised Gordon a lot sooner. Feeling quite tranquil, to say that B&S are playing tonight and tonight and tonight I shall be at home, enjoying the company that my melancholy reasoning has to offer. I don't think I can bear to listen to them this evening, at least I hope I'm not the kind of person who sits in a glorious technicolour quilt listening to a band whilst turning the lights on and off, pretending I'm there until the bulb goes. I'll probably listen to "The Kings of Convenience", a mellow situation where Nick Drake and Simon and Garfunkel meet in a spherical room with lemongrass scented candles but only have one guitar between three of them, and are encouraged to make percussive sounds from the pile of husky palm leaves in the corner. In fact, the object making the most noise in the room is the pistachio ice cream fountain, which casts slightly textured opal-green light on the sides of the porcelain sphere. I can't believe our favourite Histrianic thinks us to have forgotten, why, in my day we would receive a sturdy post every four days from the very same, and think ourselves the luckier. If only I could remember how long ago my day was. There is a girl, in a cafe, who used to go to the educational establishment I still occupy. She is probably the most beautiful girl that exists in the places near me, so I go there to drink hot chocolate. Luckily, if she *happened* to be on the list, she still wouldn't know as I haven't worn corduroy in there, I don't think. *Damn*, let it out. Oh, well, looks like I'll have to order something different next time. *Damn*. There's always the possiblity of wearing a hat, glasses and fake comedy nose. *Damn*... There is no greater sin than self-indulgence, but I feel strangely relaxed as I know you won't be reading this now, you'll be reading this when you get back from the B&S gig, you lucky, lucky swine. (Plural). I feel an eerie sense of long term deja vu (or however it's spelled/spelt...)... No, wait, I've been here before! What happens is.. we get a trickling of posts as people wish us bon soir before going to the gig. Some non-gig hopefuls suddenly perk up, thinking that sinister might not be as dull as the gig-happenings would suggest, but are only to be disappointed, as they repeatedly hit the send and receive button just waiting for something to receive, but in vain. They like to think they can leave it, but something tells them to keep checking. Finally, at two in the morning, they have to connect again and it takes five incredibly frustrating minutes as the modem buzzes and clicks into life, but they do find a single post coming through. if it was paper, they'd rip it with fumbling hands, but instead the silent cursor wavers over the inbox icon. A short intake of breath, and their sagging eyes read the from line: "Postmaster: re: failed mail." To those other lonely hearts, I'm going to try and have a go on #sinister tonight. (For some reason I couldn't get on last time.) I've never been on before, wish me luck and be gentle. Toxic Girl Corduroy Boy XOXOXOXXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO X PS: Laura: Blackadder again. PPS: To everyone: yup, boring again. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 17:41:18 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:41:18 Subject: Sinister: asm's opinions post... Message-ID: Hello all. My, it *is* quiet round here at the moment, isn�t it? I�ll brighten things up. Maybe. Well, prolly not, but I�ll amuse myself for 20 minutes or whatever by writing this. Firstly, a request� I�m currently in the midst of making a mix-tape for a friend of mine. The theme for the tape is lyrical genius, ie songs which have just absolutely amazing lyrics. It�s not about the tunes, it�s just about the words. Obviously the songs have to be good songs, which therefore needs them to have good tunes, but the songs **must** have lyrics that blow you away/lyrics that move you/lyrics that are socially spot-on etc. And here�s where you lot come in. I can�t think which B&S songs to include, and so I need suggestions, and reasons for the suggestions� answer on an email to the usual address� ;-) There�s been a lot of talk on the list at the moment about end of year polls. People seem not to like them much, so just to spite the lot of you, and following on from �Asm�s List Of Top 10 Albums That Say �� 2001� On The Back�, I proudly present� ***ASM�S LIST OF TOP 10 SINGLES THAT SAY �� 2001� ON THE BACK*** 1. Missy �Misdemeanour� Elliott � Get Ur Freak On 2. Pulp � Sunrise 3. Belle & Sebastian � I�m Waking Up To Us 4. Radiohead � Pyramid Song 5. Eels � Souljacker Part 1 6. Belle & Sebastian � Jonathan David 7. The Strokes � The Modern Age 8. Beta Band � Broke/Won 9. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club � Whatever Happened To My Rock�n�Roll (Punk Song) 10. Coldcut � Re:Volution Why? Well, a few of them touched me and made me smile (Pulp, B&S), some are just incredibly musical creations (Pulp, Radiohead) but most of them just screamed at me �DANCE! DANCE, YA FUCKIN� MOOK! GET UP AND DANCE!�, in particular Missy Elliott, Eels, BRMC and Coldcut, and I just couldn�t resist them. So there. That� s *why* I like them too. Finally, as an afterthought, here�s ***ASM�S TOP 3 SILLY QUESTIONS ASKED IN DANCE RECORDS THIS YEAR*** 1. �Why do we build castles in the sky?� � Ian Van Dahl 2. �Where�s your head at?� � Basement Jaxx 3. �Do you really like it? Is it is it wicked� � DJ Pied Piper & Master Of Ceremonies And on that bombshell, I�ll shut up. I love you all, I love you all. Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andycapps at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 18:56:41 2001 From: andycapps at xxx.com (Andy Capps) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:56:41 Subject: Sinister: etta and andy leave the big city... Message-ID: hello again to all of you. i tried posting the other week but i don't think it worked. so i'm going to try this again. it seems technology and murphy's law have not been my best friends lately. about a month ago my little kitty and i moved outta the big city. well it's the biggest city in this country at any rate. my poor little bedroom is filled with boxes and boxes and catfood. etta and and i now live in this big house with lots of furniture that we can't sit on. i was also fortunate enuf to not be able to put insurance on the car, so i'm not very mobile in a town built for drivers. but etta and i have been curling up watching eastenders every day at noon and terrorising the corgi that also lives here. i hope all you lovelies have a wonderful christmas or that you had a beautiful hannukah. i'm having star wars'mas this year. i keep getting these little star wars ornaments, so etta and i decided to only decorate a little rosemary tree with them. it was quite satisfying to put a bough of rosemary right up queen amidala's you-know-whatsit...well she was the only thing that i could put ontop of the tree. i think it would be rather dark to have darth vader on top...or maybe is that a better idea...hmmm. i'm sorry i've been absent from the list but i promise i'll be better now. i've been reading all my digests and everything. i'm even starting to go to shows again which is nice. i bought the new single, and stars comback ep, and downloaded too many others. i'm also living in the town now that spawned both the groups sum 41 and do make say think. i'm not sure what to make of that, but i think it should get this little town on the map soon. i should go now, the angel blackwell wants to go shopping and doesn't have the train fare to go by himself. i'll chat with some of you guys later in #sinister...see you there. andy capps P.S. big hugs to amy and her almost winnie the pooh overalls. _____________________________________________________________ the early bird get's the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Thu Dec 20 21:21:19 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:21:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: single question, please read.. Message-ID: <000f01c1899c$4783ad80$f2323c3e@pbncomputer> Hey, guys... I looked on the chat systems link on the sinister webpage, but the option "undernet" has gone from the "network" drop down menu. I'd be really grateful if anyone who chats *without* downloading a client (eg. purely on the webpage) would give me a fairly foolproof overview of how they get on, preferabley asap! Smile'n'stuff, Tom +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Thu Dec 20 23:07:39 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:07:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast v. glasgow Message-ID: so which gig is gonna be better? The warmup night in Glasgow or the real deal in Belfast? That's what I'm wondering. Anyone going to both? Other than the band and their minions, obviously. I've decided we should all shout for 'Suspect Device' by Stiff Little Fingers when B&S call for requests from the crowd. Or maybe for The Special AKA's 'Free Nelson Mandela', seeing as how we'll be in the Nelson Mandela Hall. But 'Suspect Device', that's the one I want. I've decided to start my own religion: The Reformed Church of Tobit. It will be based on the simple precept that The Book of Tobit is the only canonical book of the Bible, and the rest are all apocrypha. Know ye the Book of Tobit? It's about Tobit (obviously) who has a pet dog and meets this woman who is cursed by a demon who keeps killing her husbands on their wedding night. Tobit is able to save the day, fortunately. Well, I mean, of course he is, he is Tobit after all. Praise Tobit. Anyway, see you all at the Empire. I hope there isn't some kind of NME famine in place Up North which will lead to confusion and awkwardness. bless you all. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daragh_lynch at xxx.com Thu Dec 20 23:33:02 2001 From: daragh_lynch at xxx.com (daragh lynch) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:33:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast tickets Message-ID: hello sinister, i know its very short notice, but we just found out that we have 1 maybe 2 spare tickets for tomorrow night. if anyone fancies them give me a call on 07812 593801. thats all. love,daragh p.s. looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From younnoh at xxx.com Fri Dec 21 03:32:32 2001 From: younnoh at xxx.com (Youn Noh) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:32:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: spin cycle reveries Message-ID: <20011221033232.86228.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> MyMomSays wrote: I never know what to do with my hands and arms when I am walking. One could move them back and forth merrily, but I always feel sort of dorky doing that. I like to press my fingertips together in front of me or tuck my hands into my sleeves so that they are stiff. But one would look even more dorky doing that. Peter Miller wrote: So far, I've managed to download songs by Kylie Minogue and So Solid Crew, and a *picture* of Lenny Kravitz. I heard that So Solid Crew commissioned the Pinefox to write a song for them. But this "commission" may go the way of the grant for your book on fairy tales. Do you think it's better to use 'fantastic' for an element of fantasy and 'terrific' for an element of terror? I'm not usually this precise. I was about to say that 'Marx and Engels' is a fantastic song, but that's not right: it's good for the exact opposite reason. Has someone already pointed out that the B & S site now has a writing archive? But they forgot to include Stuart's previous entries under the Who section: the one about his school band and the one about going to the laundromat. Somewhere in the SW part of London near the French institute next to a confectionery where they give you your change back on a tray, there's a laundromat that I went to once in 1993 in the pouring rain. I passed by in 1999 to see if it was still there. It was. It's funny how places seems compressed and faraway, from the wrong end of a telescope, when you return to them. On Saturday I watched A Hard Day's Night on video. George Harrison was a very good dancer. All the girls were crazy about him. In the scene where he's teaching that man to shave, he reveals lovely arms to rival Stuart's. There's a girl in the audience that they return to several times during the televised performance. Her adoration is too intense for happiness. The Sunday before that I watched Cathy Come Home. The girl resembles Cathy. Especially when the girl says his name and when Cathy's husband comes back to her in the hostel. It's weird to think that this film was made two years after A Hard Day's Night. PS: Thank you, Miss Honey! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Dec 21 09:41:12 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:41:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Rooler's Back Message-ID: <003801c18a04$8a9f9120$4569243e@pjmillerwanadoo> Excuse me please, can I have your attention? There's just a few things I'd like to mention... Unfortunately, I'm going to have to unsubscribe before the inevitable avalanche of Reporting Back from Glasgow and Belfast. I hope they don't do 'Suspect Device', it would be in qu-qu-qu-questionable taste. I would prefer something medieval. However, the smart money's on 'Slim Slow Slider', if that's the correect title. Because the Pastels did it, and Stuart's always been right up Stephen's arse. I might be a bit late to make this prediction. Am I too late? Before I go, I'd just like to mention Pink Floyd's collection 'Echoes'. I realise many of you will be receiving this from Santa, so I won't spoil it, other than to say it is an excellent advertisement for the talents of Mr Syd Barrat. I do like that song 'Wish You Were Here' though, thanks mainly to Wyclef Jean's version. Top one. Congratulations to Lawrence Mikkelson. On the length of his sidies. You and Vanessa look as if you'll be very happy together. Merry Christmas to you all, especially the lurkers. Weren't The Lurkers from Belfast? Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com Fri Dec 21 11:57:42 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com (Daplyn Elizabeth) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:57:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: bah sweet minty humbugs Message-ID: <8CE702C232760243B95B5ADBE849E3474BB9F6@CWMBSMAIL01.eu.thmulti.com> Walking down to town avoiding the dyspeptic shivering pigeons pecking at last night's festive vomit only half washed away by the graceful early morning rain that woke me falling against the bathroom skylight. Thinking in a Friday daze that I have to unsubscribe once again due to the unchancy nature of temping. Listening to the tompaulin album which finally arrived yesterday from Rough Trade along with a bundle of other lovely stuff. I must admit I'm quite a convert to vinyl, but just for things like singles that I'll only listen to at home, as a Dansette is kind of bulky even for my capacious tweed coat-pockets. 'On the buses' would have been tritely appropriate, so I was glad to sink into the wonderful double bill of 'kicking and punching' and 'the boy hairdresser' as my Stagecoach stagecoach drew away from stand 11. Waiting through a last day of bad radio - full of all the crap that is thought of as seasonal. I'd quite like to hear David Bowie and Bing Crosby doing 'Little Drummer Boy' for full-on surrealism value (what in hell went through their coke-addled minds?), but I'll settle for Nat King Cole, who is the least offensive option, or so it seems to me. I'd rather listen to 'Why That Doesn't Surprise Me' by The Lucksmiths, though, so maybe I'll sneak it into the CD player later. Sometimes I'll get an album when it comes out and just not feel like listening to it, then after a while I'll have an epiphany. Not anally indie-punctual, but it suits me. Oh, those Luckies. Three lovely lads, two of them bleedin' gorgeous and also moderately talented songwriters, one somewhat less blessed with the pretty stick and a complete bloody genius. 'Are you torn in two When I talk to you? 'Cause I'm torn in three When you talk to me' Candle Records, yum. Get stuff sent from Australia, blimey, and it's still cheaper than buying it in the UK. Eurgh, the novelty earrings and forced corporate good cheer is getting to me. I suppose I should make an effort to rid myself of habitual seething contempt when confronted by such social lubricants, but I'll probably stick with the angst for a while yet. Well, that's me, I suppose. Replies, comments, abuse to: lizdaplyn at hotmail.com for the forseeable future. Liz D :x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Playforth at xxx.uk Fri Dec 21 12:53:38 2001 From: R.Playforth at xxx.uk (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:53:38 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: ding dong Message-ID: well, the vodka chocolates are finished, the silly hats are in the bin, the contraband wine is down to the dregs. i'm off to sing carols, be nice to my family, eat more chocolate etc. if anyone needs (or just really really wants) to contact me before the new year, use something.pretty at btinternet.com or archel at iname.com. maybe see some of you at the sinister bowlerama on the 29th. joyeux noel, froliche weinacht etc! luv archel xxx ps. had a lovely intro to #sinister today :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Fri Dec 21 19:57:14 2001 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (~ boywiththearabstrap) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:57:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Brief Review Message-ID: Well, There is no other way to describe it.The band were fantastic.A mix of B&S favourites mixed with a fantastic range of covers from George Harrison, Bowie,The Byrds,Free, Thin Lizzy, and many more.The support band were very good also. The Suckles.And even the words of Alasdair Gray were well recieved by most, although some dissent from the floor.This really is a band playing with confidence.Fantastic 10/10 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Fri Dec 21 23:30:29 2001 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 23:30:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Like (no longer) an Offbeat virgin, touched for the very first (and not last) time... Message-ID: <00c801c18a77$7d15b340$458c01d5@Cottyn> Yes indeedy. Finally made my 'debut' as it were at Sheffield Offbeat last week. I wasn't quite drunk enough to dance (though maybe next time!) so I sat in one of the corners singing along to anything I knew and loved (ie The Smiths mainly and of course, our beloved b&s). Sinister quote of the week: "There might even be prizes for Twee-est bowling action"-Posted by Ben Apps. I was laughing at this for ages-not quite sure why exactly, but I could just imagine lots of Sinisterines walking up to the lane on their go and attempting a bowling swing of an incredibly twee nature. Is that what I should call everyone-Sinisterines? Or is it Sinisterettes? Or is that one just for ladies? And How about Sinisterars? Sinisterees? Somebody please clarify this because it's beginning to annoy me. I won't be able to sleep tonight through not knowing the right one-so please be quick with your clarifications! And now, a charming little story that you will no doubt leave you going "that was a charming little story". I have a Saturday job in a department store where the average customer age is about 60. I went in last week for 11, and I was a couple of minutes late. A work colleague said to me "you're nice and early Richard" and i thought she was been sarcastic. It turned out though that I wasn't supposed to be in til 12! grrr! So i thought, I'll go to Fopp (good, cheap record store) and buy some CD's. Thats when Tracey (supervisor) stops me and says "Ooo, Richard-could you go and buy a CD for me-its a Christmas present for my daughter". So i said "yea sure". Tracey says "she wants it you see...they are her favourite band at the moment...erm...'so solid crew' i think they are called." I have a quick glance around for Jeremy Beadle. At this point, the advent calender falls off the wall-it was obviously suffering from shock too! I (grudgingly) said "yes, sure, I'll go and get it" and i made sure the man in the record store knew it wasnt for me! I also think I managed to pick it off the shelf without anyone noticing! I should be a secret agent. I managed to find Felt's 'Absolute Classic Masterpieces' too at long last-I don't think Tracey understood when i told her about the little dance of joy i did down the 'rock&pop' aisle. Anyways, thats it from me! (Shouts of Hurrah from the back...) I hope santa brings you all nice things! Richard x P.S. Please appreciate the Christmas kiss I have so generously given you! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Sat Dec 22 02:13:25 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:13:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: but there still is hope, yes i can be healed. Message-ID: <30493532.1008987205815.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. i thought the other day that it had been a while since i posted. not a particularly long or short while, but a while. and so. i wrote. and then, in the grand tradition of writing on days when the writing starts out shitty and gets to feeling quite sweet at the end, i lost the post to the abyss of lost emails behind the door that is actually a page saying 'not found.' perhaps it was the command that was not found. but maybe it didn't send because the purpose wasn't found. most days i myself am not found, and if i am, if the purpose is, i know all the satisfaction and anticipation of the closed door that is actually a page saying 'message sent.' i have been spending too much time in #sinister of late. i have started to remember again when i first stumbled into sinister, pink and dewy with newness and feeling like that kid with whom nobody ever asks to play four square. the kid who, eventually, after watching the somebodies toss one of those red or yellow textured playground balls around for awhile, watches a bounced ball smack her in the face. i was always that kid. once, i junior high, someone threw a basketball at my head during p.e. i got hit. my glasses flew off, promptly breaking into two multi-colored pieces, and i got to go home because i couldn't see. but i could hear. now, i feel like the kid who got to the coveted red playground ball first, and some days i can't decide toward which of the people outside my square i'd like to chuck the ball. and some days, that feeling makes me feel mean, but then i leave the computer lab and fall down on the way to my car, and watch and listen to a university parking meter man double over in laughter as i slowly pick myself up off the dirt, brush myself off and get in my car. and while i take down my hadicapped parking pass so that i can see through the windsheild properly to drive, i feel sorry for the meter man because his car is idling while he writes tickets, and his radio is blasting creed. for that man, the message and all commands will always be 'not found.' and i wish i would have said something. i wish i would have said 'merry christmas' or 'happy hanukkah' or 'fuck you.' and thinking of that makes me think that maybe, this year, in america, there is no difference between the three of those sayings. i would have meant any one of them as the last, but maybe every american wants them all, in some way, to mean the last. and maybe that's why in a year where it doesn't feel like christmas and where there has been but one dusting of snow, there have been a multitude of home-sponsored light shows, featuring santa and jesus and a big twinkling american flag. that laughing parking attendant and those kids that throw playground balls at each other have rallied patriotism and love and american family values and strung them all up in 500 feet of green wire and light bulbs, hoping to shadow the simple truth that they are only scared and lost and hoping to get back to something they cannot name so that they may first end the in-house war. you can't take the stars from the sky to light your trees, and i have the right to burn the stars on the flag. and the little kids who started out inside the square become the man who will laugh at the crippled people who don't look like cripples, and the little kids who stood outside of the square become the cripples who learn how to walk. and one day they all learn how to say 'fuck you' in a multitude of beautiful and diverse ways. i am still not found. the message is still not found. maybe #sinister is just a place to hide after all, a playground of sorts for the people whose glasses have broken in two pieces. well then. happy christmas. war is well. war is. lindseylou ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Sat Dec 22 08:59:06 2001 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju fox) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:59:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i've been a bad juju, and that's no pun Message-ID: <20011222085906.57656.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinisterines. you're my favorite flavor. i peel you. your juice squirts in my eye. i cry. then i write about it. tonight i am too tired to make sense.. which wouldn't stray too far from my usual state, honestly.. but let's move it along. there are too many of you foxes out there to enable me to share something with you in any other way than posting it on my website. so here i go, annoying everybody... "now if you will turn with me to page www.parkavenuemusic.com, and play aloud 'the little drummer boy', you may hearken unto my voice, and have a special treat for the holidays. amen." hearts, juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Sat Dec 22 14:06:27 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:06:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Someone's forever blowing bubbles... (The Belfast gig story) Message-ID: <018901c18af1$e0c6f050$4fa187d9@fallahome> Well, hello again everyone. I'm listening to the really catchy Sleep The Clock Around at the minute, after just having come back home to Derry from the Belfast gig. Quite a number of Sinisterines were present - myself, my friend Jim, Dirty Vicar, Ian, Rener, Daragh, Seamus, Grainne, Seamus's sister and Ian's girlfriend Barbara. First of all, onto the concert. Some of us met up in the Empire but there was no space to eat there, so we had to go to Bishop's. Ah well. We spent a lot of time in the Empire drinking anyway, and got to know each other (it was well worth it). So down to the QUB it was, and I haven't been there for two years. Once I got inside I wished I could've been there to see The Divine Comedy. It beats the Nerve Centre hands down. That said, I'm glad that I wasn't at the front (I left the Super Furries concert last month almost deafened - I got a far better view standing upstairs). Unfortunately we had to endure The Frames beforehand. No offense Daragh, but they are dull (I think me, Jim and Barbara were struggling to keep awake during their set!!!). The probability is that they got drunk before actually singing on the stage. Luckily we didn't have to wait long for B & S to arrive (and at this point I remembered how long I had to wait for the Super Furries). And they even had someone to introduce them. The verdict? Well...brilliant. One of the best - probably THE best - rock concert I have ever been to. Stuart was really enjoying himself (especially during Me and the Major) and Isobel, while cute and wearing this interesting dress, didn't defy the belief that she is a bit of attention seeker (can you explain the bubble blowing near the end any other way? And, as Jim pointed out, was she getting RSI during the opening number?). People say she's like that at every other concert they play at. Steve, the drummer, the three violinists (Belfast Bob was one of them, right?) and Sarah Martin were all great. I believe me and a few others got a picture taken with the lovely Sarah afterwards. Mind you, Jim went one better - a photo with someone from Starsailor as well (congrats Jim!). I recognised only four songs. Fox In The Snow, The Boy With The Arab Strap and Legal Man were the only other ones that came to mind barring the Major. And I don't even know all the words to them. But I had no idea B & S were this versatile. I loved their versions of O Come, O Come Emmanuel, and also the drummer's (I already forget his name) Madness cover (it sounded like one anyway). What I also didn't know is that they invite someone from the audience to sing at nearly every concert. On this occasion it was someone called Barry who Daragh claims to know, and I spoke to him afterwards (his sister claimed that he had 'balls of steel' for getting up and singing). I know, no matter how often I sing, that I wouldn't have been able to do what he did. Besides, what did he sing again? Was it an Elvis cover? The band did a good cover of The Boys Are Back In Town (not one of my favourite songs, but I still enjoyed it), and finished with a Christmas song (unlike Ash last year, they seemed in a real mood for the festive season, didn't they? I think the difference lies in their versatility). Well, fellow Sinisterines who were present, did you manage to pick up much merchandise? All I got were some badges (and I was wearing two of them during the concert). The thought of buying a T-shirt never existed, considering how much I've worn the one I bought at the Ash concert in Derry a year ago. It was only a pity that we didn't go to the Limelight afterwards, but never mind. And here come my notes to everyone... Daragh, Dirty Vicar - you were great company, you really know a lot about music. Mind you, DV, does anyone on the list agree with you about Boney M? And Daragh, I hope your girlfriend had a good birthday in the end. Remind me what your favourite band is again. Ian (and Barbara) - thanks for your company, and I hope I'll hear from you again soon. Rener - I've just been reading some of your previous posts on the site, they are cool (unfortunately I don't have them in my Inbox anymore). Seamus and sister - did you really have a better view downstairs? Grainne - hope you got back home ok. Didn't see you that much so I'm not sure how much you enjoyed it. Anyway, it was nice meeting you. All of you that I met in Belfast - it was fun meeting and talking to all of you, and I hope to hear from you all again soon. Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From o-lowery at xxx.com Sat Dec 22 15:09:54 2001 From: o-lowery at xxx.com (owen lowery) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:09:54 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello and a very merry Christmas to you all Im sitting round at home just chilling out...watching the snow fall outside and listening to indie music from back when it was good. Dinosaur Jr the pixies the pooh sticks flowered up etc. Why is it that only our heroes B&S are getting any recognition for making good old fashioned indie pop these days. Other than that all we can get is the boring drone of coldplay travis etc or the joke rebel rock of the strokes and you will know us... etc. If i had any talent id form a band just so that there was a dsifferent option out there of course i have no talent and so I'll complain to you lot instead. Sorry 'bout that. Lots of you will have been to the gigs over the last two days and im sure we'll get lots of reports but i couldn't go so here is a gig report in the style of a premiership footballer instead. "Well errr obviously I'm delighted with the performance and err obviously I'm happy with the result. Errr it's nice to be given praise obviously but errr it was a fantastic team performance you just have to errr look at the performances by Jackso and Cookie to see that and errr Struan obviously. Errr thanks for speaking to me, errr." Speaking of Christmas and old indie and football (as i have been you see this is sort of a link) Half Man Half Biscuit once sang 'All I want for Christmas is a Dukla Prague away kit' and I'd just like to take this oportunity to point out that the home kit is much nicer cos it's a lovely shade of wine red and that if anyone wants to buy me a present that would do nicely :) I got quite excited when people kept saying it was the time for end of year poles but it turns out this meant best of lists and not the traditional festive season alcohol fueled shag fest that I thought they meant. Still I'm off out to get drunk tonight so plenty of time for my sort of end of year pole hehe. on that smutty note I'll leave you luv'n'hugs owen ***************************************************************** so much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens (William Carlos Williams) http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wookie at xxx.ie Sat Dec 22 16:04:37 2001 From: wookie at xxx.ie (wookie at xxx.ie) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:04:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: i long for all of them to fall in love with you but they never do Message-ID: <3c24af15.1584.0@iol.ie> oh its one of those joint sinister type mailings! i'm here with louise attempting this for the second time! you'd think that between us we'd be able to come up with a decent mail - but apparantly not. the belfast gig last night was amazing - not a guitar smashed!!! tho' isobel did kinda break her cello, but there was no harm done in the end. [well there was kinda weird noises coming out of it during 'fox in the snow' and she looked all embarrASSed (that's seamus typing NOT me) and smiled and looked round to sarah to make sure everything was ok! the set list seems about the same as glasgow - covers were 'cool for cats' and 'the boys are back on town' and 'this is christmas' and another we can't remember[the diry vicar has the setlist in his little pocketbook (where he writes down his confessions!)]. And then of course the velvet's 'waiting for the man', for which they invited up a audience member to, not only sing, but completely rock out, and play the part of a rock star for one night, "tonight matthew, barry ryan from dublin IS lou reed!" rewind a bit, and the bus people who traveled up from dublin [shoutouts to listees mark, grainne, trish (surrounded all night by her blokes!)] missed meeting the northern type listees in the empire - apparently they did do the whole sitting with ribenas and nme's (contradiction ahoy!) but they managed to collar us during the gap between the frames(who were fecking marvellous!) [basically they spotted seamus in the crowd!] (actually i was standing beside listee rener through out it!) and there was a big sinister listee love-in(including a group photo!) and some actual love-in when everyone had their backs turned! not naming names but one's not that far away at this exact moment in time! back to louise again: daragh - great to see u again,make sure you mail as you promised and have a great holiday! over to seamus again; okay we have to do mentions to everyone we met: dublin listees: but busphobics the dirty vicar(filthy more like) and rener, the other ian(complicated i know) mckinnon and barbara, simon(tall) and james(on the balcony! better view down the front - cause i did both in my search for my extra-camera-film-holding sister,daragh and his girlfriend(happy birthday!), all the bus people(again) our annoying driver(just say NO! to Country&Western christmas songs kids!) ...and lastly tim. bye bye sinister ---- http://www.iol.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Sat Dec 22 22:22:31 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:22:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "da sound of da baby jesus!" Message-ID: <1009059751.2891f90h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> greetings people I have just spent the past hour on another site that is very funky and most definitly not twee. They say things like "banging", "respect", and (dare i say it), "big ups". So i apologise now if i sound a bit "bo selecta" at any point in dis post. somebody (and forgive me for forgetting who) mentioned not knowing what to do with their arms when they walk. i always get like that when i am nervous around someone. I think that is why some people smoke. I don't smoke but what i used to do was tear up beer mats or make them into funny shapes but my friend told me that's a sign of sexual frustration, so i tried to keep my hand between my legs after that.I am not so bad now but when i was a teen i used to shake lots and found the act of drinking very difficult. i remember talking to a lovely bloke, it was all going well and then i decided to drink from my pint and i over estimated the distance and angle needed and spilt it all over my face and glasses.I never know what to do with my feet either. Nobody knows this (until now) but whenever i see a cute guy i always scrunch my feet up really tight to stop myself going pink. anyway, none of that is interesting whatsoever. Thanks everso to niko and courdory boy for brigtening up my christmas with chocolate and BRILLIANT illustrations. Expect something fun soon (ish). Sam was talking about B&S songs with great lyrical content and off the top of my head i can think of two. Feeling sinister and maybe slow graffiti? The problem with this is it is so personal and is probably impossible to find one song that most people agree on.There are some tracks from tigermilk that i adore because the lyrics relate to my experiences. hopefully i will go bowling although i may not be able to stay long, i can however assure you that i will look a prick and may even fall over on the lanes. Big ups to my crew BO! love hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sat Dec 22 22:37:31 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:37:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Only Losers Take The Bus Message-ID: Hello readers, I notice there are already lots more posts about the Belfast gig than the Scottish one. That's because the kind of people who go to gigs in Belfast are C*O*O*L and the kind of people who go to ones in Glasgow are U*N*C*O*O*L. I found the gig a lot of fun... the sound was maybe a bit ropey and not loud enough but the raucously positive atmosphere more than made up for it. Also, perhaps not enough Stevie action... everyone knows he's the real sexgod star of B&S. I also enjoyed all the Sinister meetup antics that went on. I'll give big shouts to all the people I was talking to later. But first I will bore you with what I think is the list of songs performed by everyone's favourite band: Here Comes The Sun There's Too Much Love [that track from the Peel session that starts off with just Isobel singing and then launches into some kind of total poptasm, maybe it's called the happiness of a kind word or maybe it's not] You Know My Wandering Days Are Over (sadly I couldn't remember any of the actions from the dance someone (Andre Alessi?) posted in a while back) Me & the Major [A track my notes aren't too clear on... possibly a newie or a cover called 'Wandering Home'] Slow Graffiti (very nice) The Model Don't Leave The Light On Baby Cool For Cats (with Richard Colburn on lead vocals for this Squeeze number; What's funny about when he does lead vocals is he loses his drummer face) Waiting For The Man (audience member Barry joined the band to sing lead vocals on this Velvet Underground cover; he proved a bit too good at singing and being onstage and stuff to be just some random chancer from the audience, and further enquiries revealed him to be lead singer with Dublin band Da Capo) Simple Things Boy With The Arab Strap Fox In The Snow O Come O Come Emmanuel (again, very nice) Dog On Wheels The Wrong Girl (this time in the style of Barry White) Dirty Dream Number 2 Legal Man [intermission] The Boys Are Back In Town (performance of this Thin Lizzy classic was preceded by Stuart asking us whether we had any Irish in us, leading to amusement on the part of my longtime Lizzyfan special friend; the song featured endlessly hilarious backing vocal action on the part of Chris and Mick) Happy Christmas - War Is Over (surprisingly affecting version of this Lennon track; despite hating John Lennon as an irritating hypocrite I have to admit to thinking this is a nice song, a cut above the usual sentimental "lovely song" arse he is more associated with) It's funny, I never read tracklistings of gigs I wasn't at so I've probably lost most of you by now. Isobel was wearing her Bob Dylan dress with some fetching stilleto boots and looks as mad as ever. Mind you, she didn't seem to be in her usual trance state while performing minor percussion chores, god bless her. Support band The Frames were interesting... I'm still not sure whether they are competent musicians with a good stage presence but nothing special, or whether they actually have a spark of greatness about them. I may have to go see them again or something. Now it's the shouts bit - hail to Psi & James from Derry, Ian & Barbara from Belfast, Daragh and Tim Bambino from wherever they were from, Scottish Rachel & Greek Dimitra whom I only talked to briefly (top marks to Dimitra for guessing that I was on Sinister though... is it that obvious?), list lurker Eamonn & Ruth, and then to the Bus People - Seamus, Louise, Grainne, Seamus' sister, Mark, and er anyone else I was talking to. Like Rener, for instance. Maximum Respect To The Entire Sinister Posse. Remove Your Ampersand T-Shirt And Await Further Instructions. I'm thinking of going to allegedly good Dublin indie club Helter Shelter in the Shelter later in December, anyone else on for it? Likewise, B&S guest star Barry said that his band Da Capo are also playing the Shelter later in the month too... if I'm feeling really mad for it I might catch them too. Oh, and list abuse: fuck you Sinister, you think you're cool, but you're nothing. Nothing I tell you! praise Tobit, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Dec 23 11:17:26 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 03:17:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The Lonely Blinking Message-ID: <20011223111726.25959.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> The geezer, Miller, talked about taping the top 40. I think we can all empathize with that. I think my editor used to tape it, until the Sunday when 'Bigmouth Strikes Again' came in at #28 and she gave up in dismay. She resolved that one day she would make a record with all the rapid acoustix thrills of the intro of 'Bigmouth Strikes Again'. And the thing is - she did. The geezer, Miller, also talked about washing up and pop. I should have him know, Tigermilk used to be my washing-up music, before the magical day when I heard it oan ma wee headphones oan a wee bus. After that I quite liked B&S, sometimes. But before that TM was distant music over the bubbles. The plates. The window. The bubbles. Other washing-up music of our time has included The Beatles Live at the BBC. I don't know the Harrison thing that the geezer was on about. I see where MyMomSays talked about an interesting park. It sounds like an out-take from a Marshall Berman video. But did he ever make videos? Youn talked about what to do with her hands. Probably it's best not to think about them too hard. She also talked about a 'laundromat' in the South-West. I wouldn't know about that, I've never been in that region. I did read Foucault in a 'laundromat' once, mind, in October long ago. I am starting to prefer this word 'laundromat' to the more sordid 'laundrette'. You wouldn't find a place in a picture like, let's say, THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE, being called a 'laundrette'. I have just realized that this theme connects with 'Marx & Engels'. No-one has mentioned the Wallasey connection yet, so I'd better do it. (Have I done it yet?) I see where the Vicar was talking bollix about the Bible. Remember, for listeners as old as me - Desmond Carrington at 1pm. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Dec 23 15:30:50 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:30:50 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: hey there. you com here often? Message-ID: <193.2f1a7f.295752ab@aol.com> Hello to all. First things first. Does NO ONE want to meet me in new york? (Are people *that* busy? Am i *that* uninteresting? are *that* many people supportive of vegans???) So I'm slightly ticked. Obviously. Asides from that, you're all still lovely. :) I decided that I needed a new screen name tonight, and decided that I wanted it to be insanely pretty. I've been saying that often, and I like how it sounds. So I go off and type in insanely pretty, but some self conceited person probably far off in a new jersey suburban home with a large SUV. I hate large SUVs. Tonight I watched Vanilla Sky and Swordfish. Which probably are, in your artsy minds, both horrible, horrible films, very un-twee and obnxious and loud. But I'd like to say that Tom Cruise is really hot. The two hour sitting of the movie was made bearable, and maybe even enjoyable, by the fact that I could watch Tom Cruise on screen. And Hugh Jackman is yummy, too. :) I'm going to get stones thrown at me, aren't I? (But Tom Cruise is really sexy.) Does anyone else think Clem Snide's 'Your Favourite Music' sounds an awful lot like 'If You're Feeling Sinister' at times? (b&s content!) and I want you more than ever... So yes, I'm still ticked at you lot (at least the ones in new york) for not answering my last post. But I'll be off to bed now. cheers sethe xoxo my favorite is from long island television personalities make my favourite films the hives are my new favourite band and clem snide makes my favourite music +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Sun Dec 23 22:58:18 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:58:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: dunno Message-ID: <1009148298.2956970h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> oh dear, It really has gone horribly quiet round here. I suppose everyone is busy doing family stuff. I am also doing family stuff as my uncle and grandad are here, however, i have had enough already. My parents got pissed and were arguing with my uncle earlier.My darling grandad is a sweetie but is very deaf. This means: a, having the tv on at about level 16>IIIIIIIIIIIIIII b, grandad not hearing us because of the loud tv c, us not hearing grandad e, everyone having to shout very loudly and repeating themselves several times before being understood. The tree looks nice and full this year though. It suddenly feels like i am in a dark little room posting to myself,snif. Everyone has gone to bed and the only amusement i have is radio 1 and the internet, maybe i will look at some porn later. PF mentioned washing up music. A great washing up album is "leisure" by Blur and ANY smiths album, but be careful not to dance too hard or those plates might just slide right out of your hand. hhmmmmmmmm, it really is quiet here. Seeing as i have nothing really to do i might set myself a stupid task. Maybe to stay on the internet all night and send lots of irritating, pointless mails. yes, i feel inspired. love hannah ps) sorry about the "maybe's" and the "i's" _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Dec 23 23:09:41 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:09:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Are You Festive? (I) Message-ID: <000001c18c07$00658f00$73c47ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Sorry for delay in Reporting Back. Obviously the people who went to the Glasgow gig are just SO uncool. Or possibly they only got near a computer this evening. And they may have been too busy spending the last four days getting pished with videostars & popstars to think about posting. You know, You Have To Stop Living To Start Writing. Did someone ask for a setlist? if so, here comes a scan: Here Comes The Sun There’s Too Much Love Magic Of A Kind Word Turn, Turn, Turn Alone Again Or Creeque Alley Baby Judy & The Dream Of Horses Dirty Dream Number 2 * Cool For Cats Orangutang Space Oddity The Boy With The Arab Strap The Fox In The Snow O Come O Come Emmanuel Dylan In The Movies Time Of The Season The Wrong Girl Sleep The Clock Around The Boys Are Back In Town Go off. Wait for lots of applause. Come back and do ..... + Merry Xmas (War Is Over) Legal Man * Lazy Line Painter Jane Everyday People * (* They didn't actually get around to playing these. The last two probably got deleted due to the lengthy raffle drawing/prize distributing process) (+ cheeky Orang-utans!) No songs by Free. This unnecessary for most listees I'm sure but anyway: Here Comes The Sun = The Beatles, Turn, Turn, Turn = The Byrds (or Pete Seeger before that), Alone Again Or = Love, Creeque Alley = The Mamas & Papas, Baby = Gal Costa, Cool For Cats = Squeeze, Orangutang = Serge Gainsbourg, Space Oddity = David Bowie, O Come, O Come, Emmanuel = a rather complex provenance according to my copy of Hymns Ancient & Modern!, Time Of The Season = The Zombies, The Boys Are Back In Town = Thin Lizzy, Merry Xmas (War Is Over) = John Lennon. A fantastic gig - not sure yet if the best of the 9? I have attended but nonetheless everso very special, because of the choice of songs played/covered, the atmosphere, the party pieces, the good cause it was all for. I think a more detailed description may have to wait for later, for now I'll just say that I spent a fantastic (or should that be fandabidozie (sp?) seeing as its the panto season) few days in the city of Glasgow due in no small part to lovely Belle And Sebastian but also to the lovely residents who looked after me & the other people visiting from down South. Carey Lander is as wonderful & kind as she is gorgeous. Love & Christmas wishes to all, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 00:56:01 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:56:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: is there gas in the car? yes, there's gas in the car. Message-ID: <20011224005601.90955.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> there has, yes, has indeed, yes, been a lack of your Reporting Back from thursday in glasgow. I don't want to deprive anyone of a lacking. as if I could. someone said they heard I had thrown up in the toilets. I hate inaccurate rumours. I don't think 'these things happen' is as annoying as I have. before. but that's okay. those things don't happen . to me often at all. not to such a degree. uch. I guess they don't. happen. 'happen'. addition of '...for a reason'. might help or not. I wrote that bit before david moore did proper actual Reporting Back. he made you not lack. properly. thank him. well. since then. I have enjoyed further nights out. well. I won't try to convince that I enjoyed them. but I did. I just don't always look like it. or I always look like I just don't. I have heard many people called 'chief'. I have had some fun with cueing. I have worked on my arrogant nature. or had my arrogant nature worked over. it's only natural. I have learned how to use the source. look. but there's no reason for a demonstrate of that just yet. or just here. but. yeah. sure were-are lovely people around. people that you can like a lot. oh. and startled by dancedancerevolution skills. and mused over street cleaning machining theiving. and guitaring. and cliffs. and appropriate tunes. fun. um. a wise choice of venue on saturday. with gifts for all. ceramics. grudgingly gilded glasses. LUXURY christmas pudding. with cider and liquor whisky [like glayva? like. um. someone else does liquor whisky. I was going to pretend I can listen.]. a cookie jar for cookie's cookies. crystal ducks for... that could be developed into the title of a play. but I haven't done much developing since high school. lack of facilities. I GUESS PETER FRAMPTON'S WAS JUST CALLED A 'TALK-BOX'. do you know otherwise? visiting. and more. soon enough. I think. enough. soon. that was in that recent past. before that. I went to amsterdam for a few days. and I nearly didn't get back. on the last evening. lured to the red light district. allowed to get drunken. abandoned. abandoned without. abandoned without a complete idea of how to not be in the red light district. and without any chance of being not drunken. I got to the airport. had a doughnut. and a can of lager. and bought four hundred cigarettes. seems I didn't remember that I was stopping. but now. I can't forget. on the first evening. it felt like more than one. episodical. lost gloves. steep stairs. a feeling of violation mixed with plain old peculiar. ness. my life seems. oh. forget it. love, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tempestinateacup at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 04:59:09 2001 From: tempestinateacup at xxx.com (maryam!) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:59:09 -0800 Subject: Sinister: ho ho ho Message-ID: Hi there. I'm new. I live in Washington D.C. My name is maryam. Nice to meet you all! Happy Holiday festivities! Brits have been spoiled with very nice B+S shows and I'm quite jealous. *In a forest pitch-dark Glowed the tiniest spark It burst into flame Like me* *~http://tempestinateacup.cjb.net~* aim: tempestinateacup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 03:01:21 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 03:01:21 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello, currently, I'm struggling to get a mix CD done for my uncle. It's been a slightly joyus and frustrating process, taking many hours...but It must be done in an hour and a half for the girl is coming over. It has been a couple months (I think) since I last posted, not that a whole lot of people have noticed. I wish everyone a very merry christmas. This year, more than any other year, I actually feel the christmas spirit. I actualy told my mom who was feeling rather bah-humbugish early this month that I did not need anything as far as presents go this year and if she'd like she could give whatever she did get me to someone who never gets anything...we'll see if this actually happens. Either way, I still find myself looking under the tree for presents with my name. It makes me happy to find and give presents this year. I'm also in a position where I can buy nice things for people and not just the usual Led Zepplin CD. I LOVE the new B.S. Ep. I made a Belle and Sebastian mix cd for my parents' boss. He loved it. I havn't been reading a whole lot of Sinister Mails lateley. I've been getting about 20-40 shit mails everyday and It's really frustrating, especially when I'm waiting from emails from long lost friends. I bet the belfast gig was amazing. I got a bootleg of some shows a while ago and it just fuels one's silly obsession with this band. damn. oh well, pretty worthless email, have a nice Christmas everyone. tim _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittypower6 at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 05:52:06 2001 From: kittypower6 at xxx.com (Alyson) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:52:06 -0600 Subject: Sinister: *trembling nervously* Message-ID: hi, you sinister people. my name is alyson, and i've been a lurker for quite some time now. i figured now was a good time for my first post. i am still stumped as to how, exactly, people make their first posts around here. even though i've read a few first posts from others, when it comes to introducing myself, i just want to close the "compose mail" window and put it off another day/week/month. =) ah, well. here i go. i am a terribly shy girl that lives in austin, texas. i first heard belle & sebastian a long time ago because a boy on the bis mailing list mentioned them and i thought i would give them a listen (how different they are from bis, i can't remember why he mentioned b&s... maybe some scottish band conversation). i think the boy's name was ferny. anyway, i loved b&s from the first song i heard... too bad my friends seem to think they are horrible. in fact, i only ever get to listen to them when i'm alone, in order to keep the others from griping about how bad my music is. so, b&s is a very private thing for me... but i suppose that's where you come in. =) some other things i like are sanrio, anime, video games (ddr!), drawing, and being a bad student. i am halfway through my first year of university. i take classes through the ut telecampus, which is a marvelous invention. other bands i like listening to are death cab for cutie, stereolab, pizzicato 5, bis, and grandaddy. i am 20 and my birthday is in july. i have an orange cat. i'd love an email from anyone sinister... and my aim name is xxkeroleenxx. happy holidays and stay warm! love, alyson p.s. i would have to agree with maryam-- i am definitely becoming quite jealous of those who are seeing b&s live... or those who have -ever- seen b&s live, as i fit into neither category. =) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 06:30:59 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 06:30:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: It's all a question of me me me and you you you. Message-ID: <003201c18c44$8f64d7a0$6700000a@btinternet.com> I have never been carol singing. At 5am, that seems peculiarly significant. Occassionally, I sing Away in a Manger in the style of a Home Counties seven year old, but I don't think the two amount to the same. Of course, it is too late both in the day and my life to begin visiting houses, song book in cold-numbed hand, so I will have to accept that the experience has passed me by but, yes, its absence is a felt non-presence, as it were, in the pre-dawn of this Christmas Eve. One day, we'll all die. That's a sad notion, isn't it? It troubled me more when I was younger than it does now, probably because my brain has sand-bagged the sense of tragedy into a corner for my own safety. I should be more absurd, but I'm not. Recently, I have been listening to lots of music. I go in waves of interest and disinterest, but at the moment I have been spending as much non-existent money as I can muster on CDs and records. I bought a Serge Gainsbourgh CD. He's crap, isn't he? I fail to see how singing in a raspy French voice can in any way elevate his brand of music above the status of flaccid easy listening. Rod Stewart, on the other hand, isn't crap. Or Cat Stephens. Or Hope Sandoval. Or Johnny Cash. A little bit of somebody else's humanity enshrined on record. Music to invoke existence's magic strikes me as being the only stuff worth listening to, and the only art worth seeking. But then I'm always trying to recapture a state of childhood bliss, of a sort. In Tower Records yesterday, there was a young girl in front of me, about nine, and her face was covered in red blotches, while her voice had the rough tone of an adult. She could barely reach the counter, but her eyes glittered wisely, and sadly. Her shoes were dirty, and the laces had lost their little plastic caps, exposing the ends which had already begun to fray at the tips. I thought that if we could build ourselves on an untarnished child, gaining understanding and experience without destroying the wonder and spirit of joy that comes from times we don't remember, we would be doing alright. I have been spending lots of time in churches, because they are epic, and they're ours. I'd like to remember that sometimes, pitching human majesty against that of the stars. Think of all the heroes and the dignity and rage of the sea and our own lives. Nothing is eternal, but does that make our lives less grand? I'd like to see platforms dotted around the globe like a web of beacons, with people standing on them, shaking their fists and laughing and crying at the world stretching beneath their feet. Star-gazing not shoe-gazing. That would be nice. Which makes this splurge quite circular. From nothingness to being, and from transience to raging, raging. I'll be quiet now. Happy Christmas to one and all. Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koodgipo at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 11:15:36 2001 From: koodgipo at xxx.com (rendall lynne) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:15:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: um Message-ID: > > hello sinister, being my first post i really wanted to make it long, >clever > > and interesting - but um this isn't that so apologies in advance. > > > > Just wanted to ask if anybody else clocked 'a' bloke from mogwai at the >qmu? > > There may have been others from the band with him, just recognised him > > though. > > > > I got a b&s tea towel and fold your hands... t-shirt. Yeeeeaah, early > > christmas present to myself i decided, cos no-one else would get me > > something as pretty. I even wrapped them up in sparkly paper and >ribbons > > and put them under my christmas tree marked: To Lynne, Love Belle and > > Sebastian xxx hehe that'll confuse my gran on christmas day, "What >unusual > > names your friends have nowadays dear." > > > > "A tea-towel! How thoughtful they are too." > > > > Oh dearie me. Had 'the' most excellent time at the gig in glasgow, only >half > > a song in to their set where i turned round to my brother grinning from >ear > > to ear like a cheshire cat and we quickly agreed this was already the >best > > gig we had ever been to, and we have clocked up a pretty impressive >amount > > between us over the years. Yes twas our first time seeing them play. >(and > > yes we are both still grinning yet) > > > > I apologise to the poor soul that kept passing me to/from the bar to >whom I > > barraged with my comments of how the ampersand t-shirt suits me so much >more > > than it did him although I wasn't wearing it, so was unable to back my >(ever > > so humble) opinion up. > > > > And also sorry to anyone who may have almost choked on any long brown >hairs > > in their pint (my bunches were both soaking at the ends due to much >jiggin > > about and grooving, i had at least one complaint that one had dipped >into a > > drink, so goodness only knows how many others i may have unknowingly > > infiltrated with my dancing jiggin hair.) > > > > There wasn't nearly enough dancing going on, is this something that is > > frowned upon at a b&s gig? Cos i wouldn't like it if i had offended >anyone > > by being emm happy and um you know, enjoying myself. > > > > Anyway that's all for now. > MERREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >CHRISTMASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! > > > > (war is over) > > > > Lynne x > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 13:10:29 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:10:29 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: And that the spirit of union and kindness... Message-ID: <20011224131029.83261.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com> Hello. Today is the 24th and most families in the world are getting ready for being together in the evening, chating, sometimes praying, and getting to know about all those thing they didn't know about everyone, cause they didn't even phoned each other during the year. There's a Christmas tree in my house. An artificial tree, which we don't even have in Brazil in the natural shape. This is only my opinion, but I think everything is too artificial during Christmas time. So I hope you don't have the same feeling. I hope you enjoy this time. Smile, think about the ones you love, not about the ones you lost. Try to get along well with your parents. I can't give you any hint, but it's better not to fight this time. Because two years later, you are going to hate Christmas even more, because of all the stupid memories you kept from the years before. I'm an example, you don't have to be. ;) I wish you all a good 24th - 25th, a lot of food, parties and friends. Kisses, Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tempestinateacup at xxx.com Mon Dec 24 18:25:00 2001 From: tempestinateacup at xxx.com (maryam!) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:25:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: oh my Message-ID: I woke up, booted my computer and opened my inbox to realize that my first impression was... um... Even though I'm sure more of you do not want a short synopsis of my life, I'll give you at least some idea of who I am... I'm most likely the youngest of you. I'm looking to go to art school, so I'm painitng like crazy right now. Some of my art is here: www.tbns.net/mothballqueen/art/index.html. I've been a belle + sebastian fan for about a year now, I heard about them on a Tori Amos forum I belong to (I'm a huge fan of her, also) and I've been hooked since. I've never seem them live... well, because they don't come here to the East coast. Alright, I need to go untangle a sparrow from our christmas lighting :( So merry christmas, everyone.... :D ~maryam *In a forest pitch-dark Glowed the tiniest spark It burst into flame Like me* *~http://tempestinateacup.cjb.net~* aim: tempestinateacup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 24 23:15:40 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:15:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Next you will be telling me jesus wasnt born on the 25th........ Message-ID: <1009235740.398c1fe0h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> I feel stunned, shocked and slightly hurt to know that i have been lied to for 15 long years. Did you see the programme? Did you gasp in disbelief at the horror? YES, it is true, Alled Jones, the baby boy wonder with his crooked teeth and angelic voice DID NOT SING "walking in the air" from The Snowman! ! ! ! He just re-recorded it and cashed loads of money from its success. Can you honestly believe it! I'm not sure life is worth living now. It seems there has been a flux (if that's the right word) of new listies so hello to Alyson, Maryam and Lynne. I didn't know you could get B&S t-towels. We should get one for PF. How dedicated would that be? Listening to them whilst washing up, then drying up with their t-towel! Well done to richard gillanders for quite possibly the funniest quote this year: "My life seems. Oh forget it." Um, and that's it, another quiet evening spent listening to the negative drooling of my uncle and father has made me hide away and spend many minutes wasting people's time with bad e-mails sorry love hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Tue Dec 25 06:53:07 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:53:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: do you consider that poetry? or do you know what the words mean? Message-ID: <20011225065307.36868.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> I hope to continue this. I mean to. have read little and understood less. as a result. or from a result. it is confusing that someone may well say a question as ask it. a fondness for 'or'. a fondness for 'someone'. can a person be allowed to never do more than one thing? this has little or less to do with ambition. this part should be higher up. and less inaccurate. or more. sometimes there's a compulsion to read the closing before the opening. not always. I mean no harm. I love you. hope you are well. see you soon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Dec 25 10:30:46 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 02:30:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: to tell someone all the truth before it Kens Chu Message-ID: <20011225103046.68498.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister! I suppose I shall start off by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, as it is nearly 2 am on Christmas morning as I write this... The cats have had some catnip and the one we call the "fuzzy cootie", Rhonda, has fallen asleep on her back under the area rug, with just a little brown ear and a tuft of beige fur sticking out, I fear that she will be trampled if she stays there much longer. Mr. Andy Warhol is jumping from cushion to cushion and I think getting high is the only way he can deal with the fact that his master is away at her mom's house... *sigh* I didn't drink tonight, but I sort of wish I had. You see, I was at a family gathering at my parents' house for a nice pressie exchange, and I had to be alert in case I needed to make a quick exit. I love christmas, but it puts me on edge. And it demonstrates to me that manic behavior is hereditary. For fuck's sake, I am my mother. The difference is that she refuses to take any sort of "anti-depressant" medication because she is "not depressed." I want to slip some celexa into her nog and see if it makes her chill out a teeny tiny bit. God, I am so happy that I am on medication. (Thanks to lovely Elise for getting me away from the evil zoloft!) Anyway. Medication or no medication, it only takes the edge off. But I am feeling a bit down. I've been thinking a lot about my life and where I am and where I want to go and it just seems so simple sometimes. Like I typed in an address on Mapquest.com (except we all know how accurate THOSE directions tend to be!) I probably have mentioned that a very dear friend of mine recommends that I not think in such extreme black & white terms, and I think he's right, that I will be much happier if I can accept more greys in my life. Here's a grey I'm trying to keep from preceiving as black: my dear friend, probably one of my closest friends, has told me that he can't be. I am left speechless. There is nothing I can say now. I have to accept that. It is very difficult. I always want to make speeches. I had a vision of myself that was actually quie a nice one and I haven't felt that way for a very long time. I saw myself as angelic instead of secluded. I felt like I could touch people with just my purity of intention without having to physically move them. I felt almost lythe and subliminal... quite a contrast to my usual feeling of clumsy and desperate. Can I really move someone to go silent on me out of guilt? Guilt because he didn't want anything... hmmm. Why give it a second thought, I wonder. How did I end up slithering into his psyche like this anyway? I wonder if my feelings of jealousy will go away when I feel good about myself. I'm going to try that out. These days, my jealousy consumes me like a thick cough, a sweet tickle in my lungs that infects me and sends that sick and seething sensation into my bloodstream and I swear I can almost see green pulsating behind the whites of my eyes. And I want to faint out of sheer disgust. In less than a week my list crush Mr. Ben Apps will be here with me. How did that happen? What powers in the universe granted me such influence as to make someone as sweet and adorable as Ben travel so far to spend our holiday together... I will never know. I am just grateful for it. When I think about what a lovely gesture that is, I feel less than slightly mental and less tempermental and more beautiful than anyone could ever imagine me being. That idea, right now, is perhaps the most romantic thing I have ever thought in my entire life. Regardless of what happens, that one concept is perfection to me, and I just wanted to write it down for safe keeping. The cats are napping on beds now, with visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads, I imagine! I'm about to catch the train to sleepytown and hopefully dream of nice settings with lovely people and happy times to come. Those are my favorite dreams... they have a funny way of working themselves into reality. Holiday cheer and love to you all! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Sun Dec 23 18:59:36 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:59:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: it's coming on christmas, they're cuttin' down trees, they're puttin' up reindeer and singing songs of joy and peace Message-ID: greetings sinisterees. i hope this finds you all well. im sure youve missed me, i havent posted in ages. i guess im just writing to reply to like 75 messages that ive been meaning to reply to for the past several months and also to vent as i am in a FOUL mood. things have been pretty bad of late. money troubles, sister/roommate troubles, family troubles, where am i going to live troubles. tis funny, i sit here typing at my posh computer faced with the prospect that i have to move out on my own....totally on my own, no roommate, and will very likely end up living in my car. in which case ill no longer be typing emails to y'all on my posh computer. nice. i suppose i could sell said computer and then id be fine...but a life without a computer is no life at all. profound, and not even slightly materialistic. perhaps thats my problem. i love having things. they dont mean more to me than people, but i love having nice things, its important to me. im sure all of you self-proclaimed indie kids hate me now....ironic as you sit at your respective posh computers. enough of that. someone said in a post awhile back that they hated christmas becuase its so insincere. i agree that there is a lot of bollocks that goes along with christmas.namely the fact that jesus was born in september time and we run around like chickens buying things with money we dont have for people to give them things they dont need. yesterday i went to the marshall fields department store in chicago....8 floors..i said "isnt it amazing how big a store full of nothing you need can be?" totaly true in a maslow's hierarchy of needs way, yet as i mentioned, i love things i dont need.....still sitting at posh computer....with dsl line no less. i digress. the way i figure it, if the person(s) wishing you a happy holiday season truly mean it, then you cant let your own bitterness prevail and convince you that EVERYONE who wishes one a happy holiday season is insincere. what else. oh yes. the state of "indie rock". well considering the fact that i absolutely HATE classification of music to begin with, this really annoyed me. so basically, per many listees, once a person is on the radio a lot they are no longer indie? hmm. interesting. you do realise that without album sales and radio airplay no one would be able to make music right? and i supppose that when the memebers, all 564 of them, of B&S and ________________(insert your favourite "indie" band here) set out to make an album they say "gee whiz, i hope no one buys this, then we arent indie anymore. we will have sold out and we wont have a mailing list of our very own any longer" i will never understand that logic. "well i liked them, then they got popular and now they suck" if im not mistaken i think that right after albert einstein worked out the E=MC2 thing.he discovered the equation POPULARITY = NO TALENT and SELL OUTS!!!!!!!! granted there are people on the radio constantly that do nothing to attain their notoriety, other than take off their blouses perhaps....then youve got peopel who genuinely pour their hearts and souls into their music and never get heard. then their are people who genuinly pour their hearts and souls into music and they DO get heard. personal audio aesthetics however, to not necessarily equal lack of talent. i mean, lets take Dave Matthews band...i cant stand them, i dont like how his voice sounds and i think hes a total pig...however, there is not denying that the memebers of DMB have real musical talent. its funny to me. im on i think 8 music related mailing lists and each of them have their respective snobs. on telly you always see the frasier crane-esque classical music snobs. the ones who think that anything not classical just isnt genuine music. i think every genre has them though. one of my mailing lists: if it doesnt have jangly guitars its just bad...another: if it isnt radiohead then its just crap. thom yorke knows the depths of my soul and no one else has anything of relevance to say (i love radiohead but someone needs to tell thom yorke that he is not michael stipe and to just shut up!).and another: this is the best yet..on one of my 2 sigur ros mailing lists someone actually said that music sung in english has no meaning. none of it. um.....need i remind said person that sigur ros sing in icelandic and a totally made up language called hopelandish..how the hell does she know what the words are saying? oi vey! my point is i guess that if we are passionate enough about a band and believe in them enough to invest ourselves in our mailing lists and meet ups and talking about them, then of course we will, more than likely, be passionate about them. that does not, however, mean that those whose opinions differ from ours have no talent and should be shot and killed on site. i know many of you hate travis, theyre one of my favourite bands. let me tell you why.....because they never say that they should be. they just make music that they like, they love playing it and are grateful that theyre able to do so. they write theyre own songs..ill admit that sing is pretty bad though.the sentiment is nice, just a lil redundent for me....they never slag off other bands or singers as being invalid or undeserving of their success. they dont tell their fans what they should believe in or what should be important to them. they havent changed anything about themselves or their music to conform to anything....they just play what they like. like them musically or not, how can you not at least repect them for that? i will never understand how people think they sound like radiohead..coldplay too. im not a fan of coldplay, but i dont think they even sound slightly like radiohead.even bends era radiohead. anyway. im going to shut up now. ive babbled enough. i realise that if i were to wish you a merry christmas that would offend some listees so i will just wish all of you a belated winter solstice..sincerely of course. love and corn pops ~~stine ps.....elise, how was your trip, jim, nikki, peter, everyone else....i love you guys!!!!!! talk to you soon i hope +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Dec 25 19:14:06 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 19:14:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Are You Festive? (II) Message-ID: <000001c18d78$c357fd00$348301d5@oemcomputer> Hi All, A great long, rambling diary post - sorry! but hey, no-one is reading tonight anyway so what the hell. THURSDAY - Gig Day To The Tap for pool, drink & silliness before The Concert Not much of a review I'm afraid, Neil, more a succession of images retained by my memory. After support band Suckle (who I didn't see and didn't miss) Alasdair Gray made a speech about War, full of passion, sometimes at the expense of coherence. A large part of the audience made their position clear for the rest of the evening by heckling & chattering throughout his words. Most of the kids around me seemed determined to talk all night, if necessary shouting to make themselves heard above the noise of the band. Students for you. Clothes: I can't remember it all now. Stuart in tight white tee & slacks (surprise), Bobby in Elvis tee, Richard in ? Advertiser tee (don't think it was that Perthshire one again, though) Bob on 12 string during Turn, Turn, Turn Stuart said that The Magic Of A Kind Word was about John Phillips from The Mamas And The Papas (non-gurning) Richard reading a copy of Razzle whilst singing Cool For Cats. Stuart pretended to be offended & embarrassed when Richard showed him one of the pictures. Towards the end of the song Isobel started doing the bump with Richard, eventually hitting him a right belter with a mighty swing of her hip but he still managed to stand up. Top Man. Please Don't Let Them Make Me Be An Orang-Utan Butler Isobel wore an Orang-Utan around her waist whilst performing the song (arsemonkey!) & someone dressed in a similar costume (Tony Doogan again?) ran around the stage. The drawing of the raffle & prize giving took a little too long: Mick whiled away the time by practising his 70's heavy metal bass lines: I recognised Dazed And Confused (Led Zeppelin) & Black Knight (Deep Purple) - were there any more? During Space Oddity Stuart was doing the background countdown & seemed to have some trouble holding the correct number of fingers aloft. The Boys Are Back In Town was grate: introducing the song Stuart said that his bass (that perspex one) used to belong to someone else & that it played itself during this number. Phil Lynott would have been proud of the poses at least that he struck during the song. B&S play it with three lead guitars, one more than Thin Lizzy's original. Thin Izzy, Sarah & Chris appeared onstage dressed as "terrorists" (Lucy) or more possible primary school Nativity Play shepherds, Isobel with full beard & Chris with droopy moustache. Beans pretended to play electric guitar, going back to back with Mick, who did Townsend windmills, & Hendrix playing guitar behind head & with teeth poses. The Strange Fruit posse joined the band onstage for Merry Xmas (War Is Over), Monica Queen was there for Lazy Line Painter Jane. All the band looked like they were having fun of stage (that's right, all of them!) & I know we all did too. Thanks a lot. I hope you transported all of the gear to Belfast OK. Present: Sally, Carey, Chris, Lucy, Ally, Lixi, Mark, Vicky, Honey, Linda, Chris & Julia, Keith Watson, Ailsa, Calumn, Sarah, Jo, Richard (thanks for the TalkBox info), *** **** (mightily pissed), Jeremy, Matt, Amy, Martin, Tania, Paul, Idleberry, Iain Radcliffe, Will, Sweetie. Usual apologies to anyone I've omitted or don't know. Missed: The geezer Brooker (writing The Book?), The Petefox (sadly, due to a prior engagement shivering in Druidic robes celebrating the Winter Solstice at a henge in Wessex) I see that the B&S website has just been updated with the following: "Plans for Next Year The band are in the midst of planning some gigs for the first half of next year. Details to follow. The soundtrack album for 'Storytelling' is looking like an early spring release date. " I'll certainly be up for some more! FRIDAY - Drinking Day Following lunch at Jack McFee, Fresh From The Sea, we perused the Kelvingrove Museum & Art Gallery for a bit of culture, then walked through the dark park. I found out that Cabbage is a great (& tidy!) cook. Then on to Bacchus, where Gav was playing records, and what's more very well indeed. A great selection of tunes, accommodated most requests, kept a fantastic pace up which resulted in us drinking a lot. Who was it who said "Oh, look, they do Shooters!" & was guilty of making us consume over a dozen different liqueurs in several combination, some in stripes? Spirits were too up for bed so off to the Scotia Bar/The ? Pool Hall with Biff Starlet: being checked out through the grille before being allowed in four at a time, Elvis & The Eagles on the jukebox, blood all over the bouncer's shirt, all the guys extraordinarily respectful & polite, a bloke mopping up after he had puked on the floor, Robbo being compared to Morrissey & Quentin Tarantino (for a change). Chippy for chips with curry sauce (num num), then home, passing Strathclyde Uni on the way, The Stone Roses being played so loud inside the walls were rattling. Watching B&S & Camera Obscura videos & then falling into bed. SATURDAY - Lilly, Carey & The King Of Partick Carey took both Chris & I up the Necroplis, great views on a cold but bright sunny day. Back home for tea (Stuart Pudding!), Lucy, Honey, Linda, Ally coming round, then off to the best pub in the world in Woodlands. Horseshoe bar, closed booths in the corners, *amazingly* cheap booze, free 80's party food, 80's music, a raffle (Honey won an enormous Luxury Christmas Pudding), Christmas presents for all (I got Irish coffee glasses with a GOLD rim), Richard, Kenny from Avalanche Records, Gav & John Henderson also there, latter two telling tales from their Christmas Carol appearance at Peel Acres. Great fun, especially the girlie popfan discussion. The landlord shook all our hands & thanked us on the way out (!) Really knackered, ready for bed, so off we trooped to the Art School for a dodgy late 60's English style R&B band & Divine's great Northern Soul. Beans, Aidan Moffat & Calumn & Debbie also present. SUNDAY - Cookie Jar Lunch wi' lovely Lilly, followed by drink, sit & listen in the 13th Note. Excellent customer service skills demonstrated by the bar staff by turning off the jukebox when full of your choices in order to play their Leonard Cohen album. Goodbyes, bus for the airport, (bus stance = bus stop), looking forward to seeing family again, very regretful at leaving nice times & nicer people behind. Must get some sleep. OK, I'll let you all off now. Love & Merry Christmas, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 26 12:26:47 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:26:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Kittens and Snow Trains Message-ID: <001f01c18e08$c22260c0$764486d9@cazz> I wanted to be prolific. So much for that. WOOPS My sinister reading has been diabolical these last few months. For some reason, I only feel comfortable reading it from the comfort and privacy of my house, not a sweaty, stinky computer room full of frantically tapping students. I'm sure I have missed a lot. Miss Gina and Asm 'The Muffin' Walton fill me in sporadically, but I feel left out. PRETTY THINGS THAT HAPPEN Snow Christmas Villages Kittens BELLE AND SEBASTIAN They seem to have been quite busy since I last spoke with Struan (ho hum, I'm in awe of David Moore's name dropping but could never hope to beat the grate man (do we still spell grate like that? Is ribena still in fashion?)). The single is nice, although I would rather Struan lost his obsession with overly lush string arrangements, but a bassoon and clarinet on a pop record! Ooooooohhh! The Tonight performance with 'head up my bum' Holland was curious. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it seemed to be a move back to the more shambolic days of old, epitimised by Isobel's recorder part in TWATTYBUS (Do we still call it that?). It sounds like fun was had by all at the Glasgow bash. OTHER PEOPLES POSTS As ever, sinister statistician David Moore has been extremely thorough. It also appears that Apps is being a big sweety. Sherbert Dip. James Danson Hatcher is becoming as prolific as I hoped he would. Is he being trained up as the new Ken? Hannah expressed my feelings perfectly. I was in a daze for several hours after finding out that Alled Jones is an imposter As I predicted, Asm Walton's opinions are wrong. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR As above. Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Wed Dec 26 17:33:48 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:33:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Wookies bent, money spent, pants lent, and love sent Message-ID: <20011226173348.41094.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone 'Round the World, I's like to say a big HELLO to all of you, especially my constant email companions (you know who you are. Rach & Kirsten) whom I've been neglecting for the past two weeks, due to my FANTASTIC VACATION!!! But I'm back now, tanned, rested, and ready. Here's the (mercifully brief) story: I travelled to Baltimore a few Fridays ago, the 14th of December. There I spent ten lovely days with a very lovely boy, Sean. We saw all sorts of things, including the Hope Diamond, a sugar factory, a mysterious marijuana plant, the U.S. Capitol, lots of cute clothes, and some cool hardcore kidz. I'd say I had just about the time of my life, it was so damn fun in fact, I forgot to send postcards, which I faithfully do for *every* trip I take. After the above mentioned best vacation EV-er, I flew into snowy, cold Detroit to visit my darling James Gilmer for Santy Claus day. Now me and Jimmy are back in Wisconsin, I back at work, and Jimmy back to whatever it is he does during the day whilst I'm at my desk. And now all my girls can have their fun - Kirsten with Rich.Gill (who *does* have gas. in his car.) and my Rachie Fruitloop with Ben Apps. Girls, I hope you have as wonderful a time as I did. Bii-i-i-ig hugs and smooches to you, and I will email you just as soon as I have the time. Back to work for me - the psychiatric world needs its prescriptions called in, and appointments set up. Love to everyone...hope you all had good Christmasses, Hanukahs, Kwanzaas, Pagan thingies, or whatever else you celebrate at this time of year. Yours, Lisey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartf1 at xxx.com Wed Dec 26 17:00:38 2001 From: stuartf1 at xxx.com (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:00:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian VCD Message-ID: <000701c18e2e$d9637be0$5e35fe3e@v7x7j9> Hey folks Since it may be some time before Jeepster see the huge gap in the market for a Belle & Sebastian DVD, I've been thinking about putting together a VCD featuring the promo vids the band have done, plus all the TV appearances. As this is very much a fledging project, I'm starting by putting together a list of everything the band have done on video. Below is not a definitive list by any means, and I would much appreciate further input into other things I have missed. For starters , was there a promo vid for wrong girl, i did imagine this? Is there one for Waking Up To Us? PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS: Dog On Wheels Lazy Line Painter Jane Century Of Fakers Is It Wicked Not To Care? Dirty Dream #2 (US Promo) This Is Just A Modern Rock Song Legal Man The Wrong Girl TV APPEARANCES: Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner - Live On The Apocalypse Tube (UK - Sky TV) Legal Man - Live On TOTP (UK - BBC1) Later With Jools Holland : - Magic Of A Kind Word I'm Waking Up To Us The Boy With The Arab Strap (butchered version!) LIVE CLIPS The Boy With The Arab Strap - shown on MTV UK OTHER B&S Documentary (BBC SCOTLAND) THE GENTLE WAVES Weather Show video Falling From Grace video ICrunch interview LOOPER The Ballad Of Ray Suzuki video Thanks Stuart _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Tue Dec 25 17:17:13 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 09:17:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: hello to all of you. just wanted to wish you all a lovely day in your respectve areas of the globe. love to you all ~~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 25 23:52:51 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Louise Brown) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:52:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: yeh! Message-ID: <1009324371.1c33fe0h.brown6@camb.linst.ac.uk> Ah ha! Thought i'd write a post on christmas day just for the sheer hell of it. I'm currently listening to john peel whilst nursing my aching belly. My uncle bought me the strangest present. He got me one of those battery operated dogs that yap and flip backwards? ? Quite amusing but i don't know what the hell to do with it? My sodding flat mate saw Tim Burgess (charlatans) in london the other day (as well as jarvis). He was sat in the same pub as him. I used to be obsessed with him when i was younger. not in a sexual way, i just wanted to be him. Recently i have realised how much this effected my teen years, dreesing like a bloke is probably the reason i had lots of boyfriend trouble at college. Now this faze has past i have started to grow my hair and wear girlie things, hooray! I even got chatted up by a cute 31 year old the other day and he wasn't drunk, another yey! oh, dear, i have had lots of wine this evening and feel like i am just rambling to myself. I promise i will not post tomorrow, i just feel a bit claustrophobic in this house, see some of you on saturday, is there anything happening in the evening? love hannah ps, someone sent me a strange e-mail that i don't understand +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 13:39:58 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:39:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Christmas Classifieds & Hardcore Christians Message-ID: Chris Jones is quite possibly one smart guy I've had to keep putting off Christmas party invitation's due to some nasty bug that's had me in bed since Christmas Eve. I ring up and say "Ooooohhhh I'm sooorry (sneeze/cough/splutter) I can't really make it tonight, I'm soooo ill" and no one believes me. But now I can say "well I can't come cos I've had a nasty turn of Prolific" I'm afraid I've had to show my "skived school excessively" roots here and had to come up with a "James-Appropriate" meaning for the word "prolific" But I am now armed with a dictionary and I'll look it up later Chris, it'd better not be anything nasty. Anyway apart from just clinging to the edge of living for the past few day's Christmas was pretty darned hot this year, on Christmas Eve I went in Virgin Mega and they had a copy of the new single on sale for £2:50 on vinyl. Snapped it up and marched across town with a silly grin on my face. I'd never really had need for a record player before then though I was rather seduced by miss cola cube's one, plus I wasn't likely to get much out of my latest purchase without one. Oh it's so brill, it's like a Stereocassettetunerrecordplayer and it cost a tenner and it's fairly-ish modern, it's Panasonic circa 1986. It's also only the second radio I've come across that picks up Russian World Service, which is surely madder even than "Brazil" Last night (she said...etc) the people next door had this rave or something, it must have been some kind of festive rave, cos all you could hear was like: boom,boom,boom,boom,oohhh, bangbang,bang,bang,boom,boom,JesusChristThatSoundsNice,boom,boom,boom.... worst present this year was catching the Christmas Prolific best present this year was from me to me and it cost ten pounds .......... . . . .. ... . . . . . .. .... ...... . . . . .. . . . .. James' Unwanted Christmas Present's (mail me if you really want any of these thing's) 1:U2's Achtung Baby 2:Big (you could live quite comfortably in this) box of Quality Street check back later cos this list is likely to grow . . . .. .. .. .. ...... .......... ......... .... . . . . . . . . . . . . .... . . . . .. ... You've read this FAR you're some kinda STAR! James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 13:59:29 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:59:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Aftermath Message-ID: Yowser! Christmas is TRIFFIC! I have been lazing and eating and swearing and fighting and dancing and smoking and receiving and giving and reading and sleeping and being dressed like a dolly and all that other stuff that I seem to do every Christmas when I come back to my mum and dad's. Many many thanks to Paul Field and Brandt Fundak and Helen McClean(it's OK, love, I know the parcel's on its way), my Sinister Santas, for the fab stuff that I got sent. Paul Field sent me a gift that will result in me being a walking bill board, all covered with slogans. And books, books galore! I can't list them all, suffice to say that my family know me well enough to buy me more and more bits of paper covered with the printed word. Books keep me out of trouble. Actually, that's not quite true. My sister made me a stocking out of PINK things! Hello Kitty gear and stuff. Twee as fuck, the lot of it. But today I bought a big furry-hooded parker to stomp about it. And it was only �17 from Tesco. I don't know whether this makes me a canny bargain hunter or just a sad wee bucket who buys her clothes in supermarkets. I much love the idea of a B&S DVD, as my brother got a DVD player for Christmas and I want to watch something on it other than The Smashing Pumpkins. There is site that has B&S videos (is it www.icrunch.com? I may be wrong, though) but I can't make Real Player work for me. So, it has to be a DVD or VHS, please. I wonder what the videos are like? Are they embarassingly cheap and cheerful, starring Stevie's mum as "Man in Fish market" (Stevie's mum in heavy disguise, obviously)? I tend to find videos very disappointing in the main, although the early Suede videos were as close to porn for me as a 13 year old girl should get. I couldn't even watch them when my ma and pa were in the room as I blushed sooo red and thought about kissing Brett Anderson..... I tried to explain the concept of 'arms of sex' to my sister but she looked vacant and started talking to me in that odd baby voice she uses sometimes. For a 25 year old academic, she's kind of strange sometimes. I hope you all had wonderful, or at least bareable (sp?) Christmases, and that your New Years are even better. You've all made 2001 a pretty ace year for me. Love Madeleine xxx PS, Guess what, Laura Llew? I got Lemony Snicket for Christmas! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 14:49:20 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:49:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm Just Gonna Bask In The Glow Of A Soon-To-Be Mother Message-ID: <000301c18ee5$b06be300$a6c97ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Too late - I thought I could be the only person to post to Sinister for a whole day, but I missed it! Never mind. Name dropper, thorough, statistician: all these traits sound pejorative, but its too late for this leopard to change his spots. So, more dregs from the memory of a week ago (a week ago already!!) to bore you with. I forgot to mention that although they didn't play Dirty Dream Number 2 they did do Me And The Major instead, a storming version with Stevie Reverb galloping away on the harmonica. Stuart quipped "There's no' *enough* love" at the beginning of Alone Again Or. The audience singing "She's a waitress & she's got style" & Stuart saying "It's PILES" at the end of TBWTAS. Struan was incredibly sweary all night, "fucking effing & blinding" in every sentence, even when singing hymns. I reckon he should lay off the heavy metal. Or is he trying to out-Peacock the other Stuart. Stevie wishing everyone Hare Krishna after the opening song. Then before the last song, after playing the intros to the Stones' Jumping Jack Flash (Krissmas Karaoke flashback!) & The Last Time he launched (briefly) into Day Tripper, followed by Richard & a couple of the others as a tribute to George Harrison. Some of the B&S songs sound much better now on stage than they did originally on the records, the playing more confident & the arrangements fuller (with the strings, etc.) & more sophisticated. Stuart Flanagan had the grate idea of compiling a list of B&S on video, which I don't recollect having been done before. There *was* a vid for The Wrong Girl, & the one for Jonathan David should be added. I guess that technically The Apocalypse Tube should be down twice, as each broadcast was of a different take. The live clip of TBWTAS shown on MTV was from the Bowlie: the whole gig was filmed (they should release it! - pretty, pretty please!) & some other songs were shown on 3 BBC Choice(?) programmes (The Bowlie Weekender) broadcast post-Bowlie. I recall The Kids Are Alright on TV - someone else remind us of the others please. Presumably the BBC Scotland documentary listed was The Story Of Belle And Sebastian, complete with Mr Benn voice-over. I'm not too up on Looper videos, but I am sure there have been a lot more than one. I thought Wee Karn & Co. made short films for nearly all of their songs, to be shown at gigs & as promos. Love & Happy New Year, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 15:32:23 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (Wojcik, John) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:32:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You, tis true, have fine black eyes, Taper legs, and tempting Thighs, Message-ID: <000901c18eeb$ae62bdd0$f909040a@ops.about.com> I have the vid for the Wrong Girl. Official Matador Version. I posed as a writer for some web site, and the guy from matador traded the video for some dot com schwag. There are a bunch of videos on icrunch. Or at least there were. There were lots. Lots more than just the two mentioned. I'm not sure how the band would react to the fans getting together and compiling a video tape of the videos. Not well, I imagine. I'd be happy to shell out the $20 for the special DVD Belle and Sebastian Video with liner notes by Isobel and Norman Mailer. But if we get the imperatur from someone in the band to this list, perhaps we could, in fact, go ahead with it. John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 16:10:54 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:10:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Classifieds & Hardcore Christians Message-ID: <20011227161055.DPMJ6185.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> James' Unwanted Christmas Present's (mail me if you really want any of these thing's) 1:U2's Achtung Baby 2:Big (you could live quite comfortably in this) box of Quality Street check back later cos this list is likely to grow how could you not want achtung baby! that album is amazing. acrobat is one of my favourite songs of all time!!!!! "you can swallow or you can spit, you can throw it up, or choke on it. you can dream, so dream out loud you know that your time is coming round. so dont let the bastards grind you down." ~~stine > > Chris Jones is quite possibly one smart guy > > I've had to keep putting off Christmas party invitation's due to some nasty > bug that's had me in bed since Christmas Eve. > I ring up and say "Ooooohhhh I'm sooorry (sneeze/cough/splutter) I > can't really make it tonight, I'm soooo ill" > and no one believes me. > But now I can say "well I can't come cos I've had a nasty turn of > Prolific" > > I'm afraid I've had to show my "skived school excessively" roots here > and had to come up with a "James-Appropriate" meaning for the word "prolific" > But I am now armed with a dictionary and I'll look it up later Chris, > it'd better not be anything nasty. > > Anyway apart from just clinging to the edge of living for the past few > day's Christmas was pretty darned hot this year, on Christmas Eve I went in > Virgin Mega and they had a copy of the new single on sale for �2:50 on vinyl. > Snapped it up and marched across town with a silly grin on my face. > I'd never really had need for a record player before then though I was > rather seduced by miss cola cube's one, plus I wasn't likely to get much out > of my latest purchase without one. > Oh it's so brill, it's like a Stereocassettetunerrecordplayer and it > cost a tenner and it's fairly-ish modern, it's Panasonic circa 1986. > It's also only the second radio I've come across that picks up Russian > World Service, which is surely madder even than "Brazil" > > Last night (she said...etc) the people next door had this rave or something, > it must have been some kind of festive rave, > cos all you could hear was like: boom,boom,boom,boom,oohhh, > bangbang,bang,bang,boom,boom,JesusChristThatSoundsNice,boom,boom,boom.... > > worst present this year > was catching the Christmas Prolific > best present this year > was from me to me and it cost ten pounds > .......... . . . .. ... . . . . . .. .... ...... . . . . .. . > . . .. > > James' Unwanted Christmas Present's > (mail me if you really want any of these thing's) > 1:U2's Achtung Baby > 2:Big (you could live quite comfortably in this) box of Quality Street > > check back later cos this list is likely to grow > . . . .. .. .. .. ...... .......... ......... .... . . . . . . . . . . > . . .... . . . . .. ... > > You've read this FAR you're some kinda STAR! James. > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benapps at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 18:07:32 2001 From: benapps at xxx.com (Ben Apps) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:07:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: .....not even Christmas? Message-ID: 'ow 'do sinister at this yuletide festival and all that jazz, Recent callers for an increased level of smut in these here tomes will be be delighted to hear that I got a grate STUFFING on Tuesday off a kind soul who lurks these very pages. In exchange for the stuffing they got a piece of my 'bird', then later in the afternoon, on the telly somebody asked for 'some more'! Disgraceful. Well it's only 3 days now till I'll be flying off to visit my legendary crush the blummin brilliant Rachel Fruitloop (as I'm sure you're sick of hearing). This is going to be the biggest and best adventure of my little life so far, and my belly is already a tumble dryer of hope, nerves, excitement, joy, fear and anticipation. I spoke to my dad on Christmas day and he asked if I was gonna join some kind of hippy cult (which sounds kinda fun, man), so I told him I was!! My little brother who has 'townie' tendancies (he has gucci shades and Craig David all over your boink records for fucks sake), recently had to fill in some consumer survey in a shopping precinct. For his favourite band he put B&S, so maybe he has a soul after all? Is that a horrible thing to say? Yeah probably. But he IS my little brother, so he deserves it. Git. Anyway, getting some bowling and drinking in on Saturday will, I'm sure be grrrrrrrrrrrrrrate!!! Have a dream for 2002. It might just come true. Byee Ben xxx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 20:25:08 2001 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:25:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i may be fat and jolly, but i'm no santa Message-ID: <20011227202508.22990.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> hi. it's almost 2002 and i have only posted about 2 or 3 times in the last year (for which you all probably rejoice.) anyway, i'd just like to thank those of you who acknowledged receiving mixes for me as part of laura llew's wonderful secret santa thing. i'm sure the mixes were complete shite, but i had a good time making them, and hopefully you found one song you hadn't heard before and kind of dug. (also, hopefully those of you overseas got yours before xmas/today so i didn't blow the surprise.) anyway, i think we should give laura MASSIVE MAD PROPS for all the work and effort she put forth for the giveaway. i just had to make the gifts and mail them--she had to match everyone up. anyway, i hope everyone had a fabulous holiday and i realize that this post is seriously lacking on content, but there are some of you i haven't spoken to in some time, and i just thought i'd say hi :) take care, brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 20:50:33 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:50:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Shake, baby, shake. You know I can fit you in my arms... Message-ID: Hello Sinister peeps, A belated happy Santy Claus day to all of you. I hope you all got what you wanted from Santy this year. I was a lucky boy, Santy brought me a certain pretty girl this year. I wanted a puppy, but I think I'm going to keep the girl. At least she doesn't piddle on the carpet. The certain pretty girl wrote: >Now me and Jimmy are back in Wisconsin, I back at >work, and Jimmy back to whatever it is he does during >the day whilst I'm at my desk>> She makes me sound like such a bum, doesn't she? Sitting around while my perfect girl works her fingers to the bone...that's me. Mostly I bum around the very, very cold city of Madison, Wisconsin. It's a lovely city, but bloody hell, it's COLD!!!! Sometimes I stare at the clock wistfully and sigh occasionally as the minutes creep closer to 5pm... Well, not really, but it is a long day sometimes. Anyways, enough of me banging on, suffice to say it was a brilliant Christmas and I'm having a wonderful time. A quick and special shout out to the lovely Rachel Fruitloop, and another special shout to the one and only Kirsten Kenyon. A note to certain young men; treat them well or arses and asses will recieve a severe kicking. Who am I kidding? Who couldn't treat such lovely lasses well? Especially when Kirsten does that scruntchy-nosed smile of hers. I almost feel sorry for my Scottish Sinister Brothers soon to be reduced to quivering puddles by unfettered Kirsten Kuteness (trademarked and copyrighted by Kenyon Enterprises of Milwaukee, Wisconsin) Can I give a special shout to ~stine? I vote her post my favorite of the year. Let me refresh your memories: <> That's a thing of beauty, that is. It's obviously wrong-headed though, I mean, next she'll be saying that musicians should create music that gives them pleasure and have fun instead of bowing to the demands of obsessive fans hovering over their computers waiting to send off angry emails that make the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons seem sane; "WORST SINGLE EVER!!!" On a similar rant: Listing to NPR this morning I heard some poor man banging on with rightious indignation over just how poorly written the Harry Potter books were and how he had a book he'd written called "Stories for Intelligent Children" or somesuch and how JK Rowling couldn't write and blah, blah, fucking blah. Besides the obvious fact that the man sounded like he was suffering from semen-poisoning (a deadly affliction where the semen backs up the spinal cord and applies pressure onto the brain, a horrible malady that can cause individuals to act like stuck up twats (errr, no pun there folks)), the poor fellow failed to realize something: He's older than twelve. In other words; his opinion on the Potter books doesn't mean shit. When some eight year old starts writing papers on the hidden feminist/communist meaning in Beowulf and how it all relates to Jungian archtypes, semen poison man can start mouthing off on Harry Potter, until then he should just get over himself. It's a shame that people like that feel the need to piss on others happiness, but there you go. Ahh, I see by the clock on the wall that my time on the coffee house computer is almost up, and so I have to cut this short. Best wishes to the lot of you, and for anyone who's lonely or sad or tired or whatnot; It gets better. It won't just happen. It won't just drop out of the sky, but there's better things out there. Sometimes you have to fight tooth and nail for them, and you'll get bruises and cuts and get knocked down and bloodied... ...but sometimes you can kick your way out of the bad places and into a good place. Stay Sinister and Strong... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartf1 at xxx.com Thu Dec 27 21:51:28 2001 From: stuartf1 at xxx.com (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:51:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S VCD Message-ID: <003201c18f20$a4375660$5e35fe3e@v7x7j9> Wow!! Thanks to everyone for the terrific response to my original mail re a B&S VCD. At the moment I am compiling the list of all the suggestions. I'm hoping to get started capping what I have in January(when I should have the hardware!). I'm really disappointed that icrunch have removed all the band's vids from their site, although if I recall, they were virtually impossible to download anyway. John made this point... >I'm not sure how the band would react to the fans getting together and >compiling a video tape of the videos. Not well, I imagine. I'd hope they'd be flattered that anybody would want to go to so much trouble. At the minute this project is still in it's embryonic stages - I'd really like a comprehensive list of the band's promos and TV appearance before I begin, so any input from Neil or B&S would be very much appreciated! Obviously though, if they object, I will of course understand. In the meantime, please mail me with any more ideas and I'l hopeful get a full list together and respond to everybody's mails over the next few days! Happy 2002!! Stuart _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Thu Dec 27 22:52:37 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Corduroy Boy) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:52:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The songs which they constantly play, they say nothing to me about life... Message-ID: <002301c18f29$630cd120$b5333c3e@pbncomputer> Having carried a bug-type snuffly thing throughout Christmas, today was the first time I felt able to use my fuzzy head (apart from #sinister, but that doesn't require active thought) and therefore with the aid of lemsip and a fleecy sleeping-bag liner I shall endeavour to write something readable. But fail, nonetheless. I hope you all had a suitably merry/miserly time, as to your liking? I, for one, survived without disaster... there was not even the usual influx of chocolate oranges, which was refreshing. Talking of chocolate: you better share that, Hannah! This video malarky: I hope *something* happens. I would pay, boy would I pay for a video, I have only seen them on "later with rich boy" or whatever, and although always an honour I did not feel they did themselves true justice. Any road up... Saw a genuine (pronounced "jen-u-INE") fox in the snow the other day. I asked him through the glass, "where do you go to find something you could eat?" He scampered off, but I'm sure he was mouthing, "The rabbit hutch in your back garden, you silly bugger." But that could have been the vitamin tablet induced hallucinations. Talking of hallucinations, I had four glasses of wine with Christmas dinner, and *then* a liqueur chocolate. Living on the edge, I tell you. A little nostalgia now: has Jen totally abandoned us? That's not rhetorical, I really would like closure on that one. No, actually, that makes her sound evil. What I mean is, "Jen has not posted for donkey's years. Eh?" Mummy-I've-Grazed-My-Knee: Yes, all that specialised terminology is still in use and *yes*, ribena is still cool. What sort of philistines do you take us for? I like these arrangements of sinister people visiting other sinister people. When B&S next do gigs in far off places...maybe, just maybe... I might even take up your offer, Elise! As long as you allow ribena in your house, dispite the obvious Kool-ade comission... Someone said that Struan was effing and blinding at the gigs. Hardly seems right, does it, at a charity gig? Especially as I vaguely remember it being a childrens charity being donated to. (that could be totally wrong...) Reminds me of the big lebowski, again. "Struan, you sing great songs an' all, but d'ya have to use s'many cuss words?" Ach well, each to his own I suppose. I for one disapprove of swearing, but would *love* to hear Isobel really let rip with vile language, a bit like Brittany Spears was caught doing, but more extreme! Sorry, not very nice, that, is it....(hehe) Right, I better go now. However rambling and meaningless my posts usaully are, they always seem to maintain a degree of fluency and seem to string along, so that even if totally uninteresting it is not very hard work to get to the end. This one is does not own that value, for which I apologise, and if you have come this far I can only try to promise the next will be better. And you need to get out more. Love and chestnut stuffing with mulled wine round a fire, Tom XXXXXXX P.S. Kirsten, if you happen to be keeping a track of Sinister during your visit, have a great time, and wrap up warm. :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 01:25:11 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:25:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a small soul, perhaps, but burning brightly...and guttering on my things like a wave. Message-ID: i am a boy with shiny nails. on my hands, but only for tonight and for last night also. i didn't really want to have shiny nails, and if i could i would get rid of them...but i can't. so i have shiny nails. of course, having shiny nails has opened me up to much ridicule, especially from my brother but i umm...kinda like them. i don't suppose it's *right* for me to be happy with having my nails shiny, or for me to tilt my fingers upwards and admire them. and occasionally giggle about them, then feel a sense of deep shame which follows quickly. they're not very practical either, whenever they're in the light they glare back at me like mirrors do in the sun. so i have to squint when i type because there is a lamp just above my keyboard and there's no letting up. i suppose i should mention why my nails are shiny. it's a result of "too much christmas" as my friend put it. i'm not sure what that means exactly, but i think it's something to do with just generally being silly and having fun. i was at her house, giving her the present i got her and her little sister showed me her presents. one of them was a beauty kit, which i think is slightly inappropriate for an 8 year old girl. then she said that she couldn't test on animals so i'd do instead (ha!). so she then proceeded to do stuff with stuff then apply some liquid or whatever, then she was finished. i suppose i was trying to almost humor her by letting her do this, then i was going to wash it off afterwards. but, when it came to washing it off it didn't come off. so i have been left with shiny nails. but, apparently it shouldn't last for more than 48 hours, which have nearly passed. so my period of having shiny, attractive nails is nearly over. and i can go back to being hard again. with dull nails. which don't shine. i don't know why i felt the need to mention all that. but i think that will be my only real significant memory of this christmas. and no doubt, when my friend's sister is older we can talk about it. and laugh. christmas was different this year, not in a bad way. it was just different. there was no real reason for it to be so, nothing major has changed over the last year. i think the whole period has just seemed to have passed too quickly, and i don't understand why. it all began in october when i saw the first christmas lights, and then by mid november santa's grotto was open. some people were talking about christmas being a horrible time for them and about how they felt stressed and lonely. i can understand that but i don't think i've ever felt it. i remember talking to somebody who said that there are two forms of loneliness. one, when you have no-one around and one when you have people around you but feel alone. the second one is something that scares me, and something i hope i never have to experience. then i was told that if that's the case you're probably just looking for someone. i started thinking about this because jimmy gilmer wrote "I was a lucky boy, Santy brought me a certain pretty girl this year". heh...i know i'm being a bit silly here. i thought that was the best present you could ever get, apart from maybe a nerf gun. so i was thinking, santa could do something really great here. if he brought us all someone special instead of socks we'd all be a lot happier. i think christmas is necessary though. the year would be so dull without it. there'd be nothing to look forward, and winters would just be even worse. i first started to appreciate it more when my brother left for uni. because it was great when he came back for christmas, then everyone would perk up and there'd be more people in the house apart from just me and my parents. then he started bringing his girlfriend home for christmas and then there'd be even more people in the house and it just got better. i don't know why christmas was different, my dad said he noticed it too. my christmas day started late, me being awoken by my brother coming into my room singing wham's 'last christmas' in his boxer shorts. it was quite funny really, he even got the george michael facial expressions right too. then we loitered round whilst my mum made dinner. which was nice, as it always is. after dinner there was the usual aftermath which involves lazing on the sofa watching crappy tv, which included the queen's speech. we had an invite to my aunt's that evening, and all my family were going to be there...uncles, cousins and such. i don't particularly dislike my family. they're nice enough people but when they're all together they just morph into...bleurgh. i'm not very good at making conversation so i absorbed theirs, which was harmless. it's too easy to tell when people are trying not to offend eachother. i then managed to slip away to my friend's house. i reckon friends are good at christmas, because they're people you actually choose to be with. we had a theme for our present exchanges this year, they had to be under £10 and ultra tacky. that was quite funny, i am now the pround owner of one of those fish tanks that have fake fish in them that are coloured in the most extreme pigments. there's two inside it, named 'arafat' and 'sharron'. my attempt at world peace. they only seem to move when you shake it. we went walking too, looking at everyone's lights and wondering how people can actually think they look good. eventually we passed the church near my old primary school where some local comedian had put a "closed for christmas" sign outside. --- Why is boxing day called boxing day? I could never figure it out. my dad made up some lame story about boxing matches and sailors then quit halfway through. that dvd sounds like a rather ace idea, i hope it materialises. i can remember watching some b&s videos on the rolling stone website if you're looking for some mr video blokey man. someone asked about the video for 'the wrong girl'. it's the one where stevie's in school and gets beaten up at the start...i think. hmm, i'm assuming the manchester bowling thing isn't going to happen now. ahh well, some other time maybe. perhaps i should sneak in some practice so i don't look like a complete fool if it ever does happen. there's rubbish where you look cute trying, and there's just rubbish. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 03:25:36 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 03:25:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Kenny pished - a dick slap Message-ID: Hello everyone, Oooooooh look I have been a good boy and haven't posted for like 7 days, so you can all love me, once again rather than knowing me as the boy who's always posting. Yup, as you can imagine I am a bit pished and can't really type very well, despite my desperate attempt at trying to type well. Although I think I'm actually doing okay at typing, just bad at constructing the actual sentences, so I'll carry on and see how it goes. I have had a rather wonderful 7 days, headlined by seeing belle & sebastian on the 20th of December, I was thinking about reporting back but then I remembered something.. what I remembered was that I couldn't really remember it all that well. I am glad that the others seem to have reported back sufficiently well tho. Anyway, I really just wanted to write to remind you all that 29th Dec is SINISTER INTERNATIONAL BOWLING DAY! And you should all go bowling. and for London People.. we're meeting at the Canada Water Ticket Hall at 2:45pm, don't be late and my no. is 07967 755446 if you get lost. I will write again, when I'm sober. When I'm much more punderful. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bignegans at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 03:55:57 2001 From: bignegans at xxx.com (M. Jordan) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 03:55:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Merry X-mas and Happy New Year !!! Message-ID: Hi everyone !!! I'm a B&S fan from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I'm a new list member. It's my first message. I always wanna to meet B&S fans outside my country, however, I want to know more about the band. I'm happy cause I found a cool list. Well, that's my few words. Ir anyone wants to talk to me outside the list, send me an e-mail. Hugs and kisses, Jordan. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 08:12:55 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:12:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: John Peel's Festive 50 Message-ID: <000001c18f77$7763e480$aac67ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, I fear I may be becoming a list pest. But its only because I'm not at work. Briefly then, B&S received 2 entries in Mr Peel's Festive 50: 17 Belle and Sebastian - 'Jonathan David' 32 Belle and Sebastian - 'I'm Waking Up To Us' see http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/peel_features/peel_festive_fifty.shtml for full list. Camera Obscura's Stuart Murdoch produced single Eighties Fan made it to no 8 as well. Congratulations to all, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 08:17:15 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:17:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Eeek! Message-ID: <000101c18f78$16d3a0a0$aac67ad5@oemcomputer> Pants! Post in haste, regret at leisure. Mark & Lard's Record Of The Week Of The Year was better still, with Jonathan David @ No 3! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/markandlard/record_2001.shtml Hope none of you lot have been using all your e-mail addresses to make multiple votes. Happy New Year, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Dec 28 14:07:23 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Pull it! Twist it! Flick it! Gahhh!! Message-ID: <20011228140723.32454.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister. It's been a while but SO much has happened lately that... oh hang on. No it hasn't. Anywayyyy... Xmas came and went and left me with some books and bouze and CDs inluding the Lambchop B-sides and rarities compliation Tools In The Dryer which provided a lovely evening's listening. There's a remarkable stripped-down version of The Militant on there as well as the Zero7 version of Up With People. Yum! Oh and I'm addicted to the game of Bop-it Xtreme as well. I couldn't get to any of the gigs this time but from the looks of things everybody had a good time. Thanks to all the Back Reporters for Reporting Back. As for Struan swearing, I still love the moment on my Bowlie Weekender bootleg where the keyboard outro on LLPJ is greeted with a cry of "FUCKIN' HIT IT BEANS!!!" Talking of bootlegs, I like very much the idea of having all the videos on one tape so if Neil and the band have reservations and are currently in a huddle with the Legal Men then maybe an reasonably-priced video or new-fangled DVD would be a really really good idea. I'd buy one. Much better than trying to squint at the ICrunch stream. Doubt if I can make the bowling at the weekend so have fun all you pin-jockeys who are going. Gutter balls tend to be a fact of life when I play anyway. Dave Moore mentioned Mark & Lard's Record of the Week of the Year. I had a look. Someone should have serious words with the Starsailor list. Both of them. New for '02 Robster http://robster75.tripod.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chrislampinen at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 20:19:50 2001 From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (Christiaan!! !!) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:19:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: SUPERBOWL XXVI!! Message-ID: Someone Said: >suppose. I for one disapprove of swearing, Fuck, I haven't posted in a long time! Someone else was talking about the old man (who sounded like he looked somewhat like Harry Carry [however you spell that man's name]) on NPR bitching about Harry Potter. He did sound like a twat. I recently read the first Harry Potter, and I must say, it was lovely! Oh wait, no it wasn't, it was a big pile of shit. I hear the series gets better, though, so yesterday I purchased the second one, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets." I will read it and make a new decision! If I was the Rowlings lady, I would have written about hippies. "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Pot." Haha! Look at that! Three different reference in one use of the word pot, boy! How was everyone's Christmas? Asked out of habit, not caring of course! It's good to see B&S are playing shows and making people happy. It would be nice if they played in the midwestern USA too! We could give them apples. Of course, they never will, so whatever! It's nice to hear the shows have been good. Oh, speaking of flying, I have a story to relate!! Recently I was flying from Toledo to Toronto. It was a small plane and the thing kept getting blown all over the sky by the tough-ass wind (winter has hit us hard this year; we've had 7 inches of snow already!). Well, the plane was big enough to have a bathroom, so I got up to do a pee. Needless to say, a big gust caught us and I toppled over! And guess who I landed on! Isobel! Boy, was I surprised. She, however, was not. "Hi! Heeheheheheeeee!" she said. "What?" I replied. "I AM STALKING YOU! HAHAHAHAHAH!" "NO! You are not!!" "Yes I am, now that I have met you I will make a song!!" "OK! Wait no you are the the Gentle Waves ARUGHGH." "Boy in the airplane, here is an acorn, hooray hooray hooray! dum dee dum" Anyway I don't know what the hell was going on. It's almost the new year!! That means everyone will get drunk, except me. It also means one other thing!! NEW YEARS WORD SEARCH!! C R A C K E R O P Y A A H D R G C B A O M D W C N T E X R L E I Q E C F T H T A L C T U R T L E Y N N A F E R M V W Y D M L D W E A O H N A H Q E I V G M N F T Z P C F O I A T O I A Q E C V C U R B E Special party words: CRACKER RADICAL TURTLE YOLANDA PARTY CURB MAGIC The words are also all the things you need for wacky new years fun!! OK it is time for work! Love, Christiaan PS: I think the last three B&S singles have been really really good. In fact, I like them quite a bit more than any of the older stuff. PPS: Laura Llew PPPS: THE END!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 16:57:32 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:57:32 EST Subject: Sinister: I'm just a huge manatee. Message-ID: <191.66f2fe.295dfe7c@aol.com> Hello Sinister, (Why hello Kara!) ahem, yes well I've been meaning to post for absolutely ages about a number of things. Today is my birthday so I thought it might be a particularly good day to post. I just got a particularly nasty happy birthday from my mom because I told her I didn't want to work the same office job that made me want to kill myself with my letter opener again this summer. Sigh. Oh, the bit at the end is of some import so if any of this gets boring just skip ahead. I was going to defend Christmas. I'm sorry but saying that Christmas is too commercial is dying your hair blue and thinking that you're "totally fucking their yuppie system." Shopping malls, not Christmas. Ads trying to get you to go shopping, not Christmas. The malls and the ads are always there, and they're always like that. We just have to go to the stores to get presents and there is a definite value to presents. When you know someone well enough to get something that you are so positively sure is perfect for them that it makes you feel wonderful then I think something pretty great has happened. You're happy because you've been given a chance to prove that you can make other people happy. And therein lies my point. I'm not at all religious but I still feel something at Christmas. There's a sort of energy humming through the stillness that's there even when everyone is rushing around. It makes you want to do something great, something worthy of all the faith and emotion that's poured into religion, and making a friend or family member happy is definitely a step in the right direction. Of course this doesn't have to be done with a present. I also meant to post after I went to see the moldy peaches and the strokes. My friend who I went with was going mainly to see the strokes. She now admits that she had alot more fun during the peaches set. There was dancing, acting, acrobatics, freaky costumes and general wonderfulness throughout the peaches show. I heard a person behind me remark "I can't even describe what I just saw" once their set had finished. I don't think there can be a better compliment. Then the peaches came out and my friend and I got lots of hugs and they said they'd try to do and interview for mine and Peter's fastcow webzine. They were some of the most genuinely nice people I've ever met. Then the strokes came out and all the little girls in their sparkly tops and their sparkly make up shoved forward and I ended up crushed into a metal fence all because half the people there thought they desperately needed to sleep with the band. Yay. And the act...how many times have we seen this drunken, angsty act before. Ooh, you broke your beer bottle, I marvel at your badness. You're smoking pot on stage. No way! Take that system! And then they knocked their instruments over. Christ, could they be any less original? By the end of it I was left with a strong desire to give them all a swift kick to the groin and tell them to get humble real quick. The Important Part Ok, now that I'm done ranting and whatnot, some of you may remember that I made plans to make a sinister mixtape. It is still in the works but requires one final ingredient, a little bit of you. I had originally planned on quoting sinister mails but I'll be honest, I am not going to read everything in the archives and if I don't then I'll think I've missed something good. Or I'll think I have the perfect quote and the person who wrote it won't want me to use it or something like that. So, if any of you could be so kind, I'm looking for tapes you saying something sinister. Anything really, you could talk about sinister, b&s, your life anything. Kind of like sinister itself. This tape is supposed to be basically about you guys so I think that this is the most crucial element. You can tell me about your gerbil. Your gerbil can tell me about you. I'm game for pretty much anything. I have but one warning. Any tapes telling me why you love Isobel so much will be shot out of cannons into a rock quarry. I will then hire fifty people to point at the battered remains of the tape and laugh. I'm sorry to those who this may hurt but it's my tape so the fun part is I get to make the rules. The same thing goes for tapes about how cute stuart is. Though I may not shoot them into rock quarries. You've got to stay original in the mixtape business. That will be all from me now. I hope you all had lovely holidays. Oh, I'm going to England tomorrow. I know all you British people are now working hard to control your excitement at the prospect. And failing miserably. I kid. Anyway, everyone, have a beautiful day. Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 15:55:30 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Only Losers Take The Bus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011228155530.67086.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> yo sinister, it's definitely still christmas. chesney hawkes roasting on an open fire etc .... i hope you're all having a warm and cosy time. well, it's last post of 2001 time (for me anyway), so i'll keep it shortish: asm sent in his best-of-2001 list. respect. lists are cool, and i always enjoy reading them. i would do one myself, but i've bought hardly any records this year and those i have bought probably weren't even released this year. sigh. but dirtyvicar did get me the new Pulp album for christmas, and on first listen it sounds very good indeed. was the Mum (moooooooom) album released this year? if so, that could well be my favourite record of the year. perhaps. psi, wookie/louise and dirty vicar all wrote about the belfast gig, and i second everything they said (i am a peace-loving rener). the belfast gig was top fun - i met some lovely people (hello psi, james, ian, barbara, daragh, tim, wookie, trish, louise, grainne, mark, and the rest of the sinister get mental kru), saw B&S in fine form, and didn't speak to sarah martin because i was too shy. maximum respect to the bus people, who piled back onto the bus when it was all over and drove back to dublin. i wonder what the driver made of it all. i'd like to think he was forced to listen to B&S for the entire journey. david moore told us all about the glasgow gig. cheers! it seems stuart murdoch is intent on spreading that rumour about the perspex bass having once belonged to phil lynott, bless him. you know what, though? i think mick cooke is the real thin lizzy fan in B&S. you should have seen him doing The Boys Are Back In Town .... hang on, you did. i think i'll go home now and have some mince pies. i hope you all have a lovely new year's eve, whatever you're up to (if i was in london i'd definitely go to T&F. you lucky londoners) here's to 2002! rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." - Groucho Marx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 21:34:34 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:34:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Don't Think Twice (It's OK, I Suppose) Message-ID: <20011228213434.90039.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com> 1. I see (where) Mr Moore swiftly made up for months of the sound of (the sound of) (the sea) of silence (of the turkeys) by mailing like a donkey on its way down a hill. It cheered me up. I think he wins the Sinister Xmas Poster Award. I believe Honey has the prize. I don't get informed about that kind of thing. If the apt category comes up, I shall vote Mr Moore in at top 4 posts of the year (5th pending) if only for the sake of grateful symmetry. 2. I like(s) all that Glaswegian Diary stuff. It didn't do us any harm. Cookie Jar, eh? A jar with Cookie, that could be a good idea too. Does Mr M know that John Martyn has an LP out called GLASGOW WALKER? It seems an almost uncanny coincidence, unless you think about it. 3. I was intrigued by the reference to the geezer, Miller, as a Druid performing the solstice. I'd like to imagine it but have enough trouble imagining the geezer as it is. 4. THE GREAT ESCAPE is surprisingly long, and I don't even mean the Blur LP this time (that was predictably long). Every minute's worth it though, every one a loser. I couldn't believe James Coburn got away with it. I must rethink my counsels, imbibed as a child, of political pessimism. 5. THE LORD OF THE RINGS is as good as they say, which is saying something. 6. The geezer Jackson (S not P) is not big or clever for playing famous Stones riffs before every song. Any idiot can do it. I've been doing that for years, and my fees have never been upped as a result. 7. I would like to talk about S.J. Perelman. A good gag of his that sticks in the mind was about the National Board of Labour, 'or "Nat" as I call him' - that was roughly the wording, you get the idea. 8. John Peel on Xmas night played O COME O COME EMMANUEL. (A different version?) I'm not quite sure whether Mr Moore mentioned that. He also played NOT THE TREMBLING KIND, that wasn't a bad idea. 9. Lloyd Cole is back, twice. He has finally released an LP that my Producer might conceivably like more than I do. (Hold that thought. I may be some time.) He's also released one which doesn't have quite as many full new songs as I'd like, but whose every acoustic texture is swoonsome. I feel so suspiciously at home among its sounds, I have a feeling I may have recorded it myself. 10. THOUGHT FOR 2D Rome wasn't built in A.D. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Fri Dec 28 22:19:56 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:19:56 EST Subject: Sinister: Don't Think Twice (It's OK, I Suppose) Message-ID: <15b.67f7bde.295e4a0d@aol.com> I think we should applaud Pinefox on this one for making the post that bears the most similarity to a Jorie Graham poem! Mandee. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tempestinateacup at xxx.com Sat Dec 29 19:36:16 2001 From: tempestinateacup at xxx.com (maryam!) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:36:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: another day has begun... Message-ID: I've noticed that for every heartbreak I suffer, there is a theme song. Right now it's "waiting for the moon to rise". I gave the CD to him for his birthday, and that was the first track he listened to. Well, now he's taken and everytime I hear that song I want to mope off in a corner... but i want to hear the song all the time. Blah. The single is ok, I'm liking "I love my car" the best, "marx and engels" being second, "I'm waking up to us" being my least favorite... the vocals tend to bother me. Alright, people... HAPPY NEW YEAR! :) ~maryam *In a forest pitch-dark Glowed the tiniest spark It burst into flame Like me* *~http://tempestinateacup.cjb.net~* aim: tempestinateacup journal: www.livejournal.com/~maryam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Dec 29 19:45:40 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:45:40 +1300 Subject: Sinister: my two cents on the B&S VCD Message-ID: <004801c190a1$cda40f20$256137d2@computer> hello everyone, I hope everyone had a nice Christmas, or anyone Jewish had a nice day playing golf or pool. That's what all my Jewish friends seem to do every year, anyway,. Play golf or pool and get Chinese takeaways for dinner. This is quite appealing, actually. I have "inherited" (via my recent marriage) a fairly large family, and seem to have spent the last few days endlessly visiting people I've never met before, when all I've wanted to do is stay home and listen to my new post-Christmas CDs. (sigh) Can I encourage everyone to get a Jeepster Records DJ bag? This was my main present, and it's ace. My old satchel was falling apart, and now I'll be the hippest kid at work. anyway, the VCD ....... A few days ago I got a copy of Suede's "Lost in TV" DVD. It's great, for a number of reasons. Firstly, it's been great to see all the promos. Living in New Zealand, I've missed out on pretty much every decent music video, and those I have seen have been via third or fourth generation dubs. So having a decent quality copy is fantastic. Secondly, and what I really like, is the interactivity. Suede don't really like many of their videos, and the DVD gives the user the option of hearing the band members actually talk about the videos, what they liked, didn't like etc. So, anyway, it would be nice if B&S could do something similar. I remember that, back in '99, there was some talk via the Jeepster newsletters, or releasing a VHS compilation of B&S TV appearances, promos, plus Gentle Waves stuff too. I think B&S could put together a really nice package, along similar lines to :lost in TV". Anyway, that's my two cents. Merry Christmas, and a happy new year everyone, Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Sun Dec 30 20:32:05 2001 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:32:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: A Bored Mind is not necessarily a good mind. Or, Lame-o Trade Stickers Message-ID: <3C2F0945.29693.C0841A@localhost> Afternoon. It's a cloudy and gloomy day in Southern California. I am backing up my entire 10 GB hard drive onto CDs, which is probably going to take well into the wee hours. I have all these extra CD labels, so what am I doing? Making Belle And Sebastian Lame-o Trade Stickers (TM), THE LAMEST TRADE STICKERS YOU'LL EVER SEE! COLLECT THEM ALL! TRADE THEM WITH YOUR FRIENDS! STICK THEM ON GRANDMA! 1s OF USES! I don't know what I'm going to do with these. Maybe stick them somewhere. Maybe I'll send them to people. If you want one, tell me, and I'll send it to you. Maybe I'll see how long it takes until I get a lawsuit warning from Banchory or from the band. Note: Lame-o does not necessarily mean crappy. Well, maybe a little bit. OK, most of the time, lame-o means crappy. But, maybe not in this case. Well, back to burning CDs and making Lame-o Action Trade Stickers (TM). Rob ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "She's stuck in an infinite loop, and he's an idiot... that's love for you." - futurama. http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infi nite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sun Dec 30 17:05:12 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:05:12 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?either_way_i=B4m_dead.?= Message-ID: <218280871@spray.se> Hey Sinister, how are you all? Well, I haven´t posted for quite a while. I wrote a long, long, longer post some time ago, but then when I was about to send it, something went wrong and it all got erased, and since then I´ve felt too tired to write a new one. Christmas came, and then it left me with lots of fabolous present as eight CDs, a new chair for my room, two new gorgeous cd-racks, two t-shirts, three boks, a rhyming dictionary, and the cutest thing, a black candleholder with goldletters around it saying "Stuart", this was made by my really sweet kind-of-sister (dad´s girlfriend´s daughter, as I´ve explained LOTS of times before) and underneath it it said, aslo with goldletters "Made with love from Stuart Murdoch to Astrid Wiezell" which I found quite amusing. I gave her a Strokes-wallcalendar fro 2002, which was highly appreciated. Oh, I didn´t buy it, I made it. And then I bought Strokes-vinyl-stuff for her. Did I mention that her favourite band is the strokes? I´ve given up on that 13-yr-old now. Not because of what someone else thinks, but just because he seems like such a superficial snob. And I definetly don´t like superficial snobs, so when I realised that, my feelings went away quit quickly. Do you want to hear something really, and I mean *really* strange? I´m going to tell you anyway. Well, last nite (well, the night between yesterday and today) I was lying in my bed, listening to Ryan Adams and I thought "FUCK, I hate being alone and I *HATE* sleeping alone in my bed, cause it makes me feel even lonelier" and about ten second after that thought, I listened to what Ryan sang, and what do I hear? "But, tonight you´re sleeping alone Without him Tonight you´re sleeping alone Without him" And I went like "WHOA!" because of several reasons: a) I know for a fact that I hadn´t read those lyrics or heard that song ever before b) he only sang that line for the first time when I heard it, I´ve checked and he wasn´t even mentioning it before in that song c) Something like that had never happened to me before Isn´t it strange? I think it´s really weird. Anyway. A couple fo days ago I realised that I think I´ve become a more happier person, not always, but in general. Because I am so much confident with myself and all that. I dunno, though. I kind of realised it when I was going to get off the bus when it came to my bus stop a couple of days ago, it amy have been yesterday but I think it was the day before that, my memory is crap, but anyway, because of the ENORMOUS amoutns of snow in Stockholm right now, the buses stop at real strange places and you have to kind of jump off or else you´re going to land in a big pile of snow, so you have to try and jump over it. The bus was full with people and when I landed I kind of slipped, and I didn´t fell over, but I was damn close to, and I made lots of strange gestures with my hands and legs and all that, trying to stand up straight and not fall over. And I just, didn´t feel strange about it. it was more like "Oops, heh heh" and I strated to walk, but if that had happened to me about three months ago maybe, I´d be horribly embarrassed and be like "OH MY GOD EVERYONE IS LAUGHING AT ME" and feel really ashamed. But I didn´t. And it felt so good, so damn GOOD, being able to laugh about it and just don´t care. I haven´t been able to do that for, well, any part of my life, but I feel so much more selfconfident and just.. well, glad nowadays. Maybe I´m growing up or something. Oh, wait, I can recall me laughing hysterically whilst listening to the song "Meatballs in your nose" with the chorus You shouldn´t put meatballs in your nose Marcüs you can´t put meatballs there stop putting meatballs in your nose Marcüs you shouldn´t put them there today, and also listening to songs like "You´ve got dandruff" and "Dirty underwear" and laughing madly to that too. So, no, I haven´t grown up yet. But the meatballsong is just HILARIOUS, a guy singing it with a german accent, in swedish of course, oh and I haven´t met a single person yet not to have laughed about it. What does that say about my friends? (Don´t answer that!) So, yesterday was Sinister International Bowling Day if I´m not wrong, but I might be, as I´ve already mentioned, my memory is not the best. Anyway, I hope you all had a great time and had fun. I´ve talked about Ryan Adams already, but I´m going to mention him again. I got Gold for christmas, and it´s just such an amazing album, and Mr Adams´ beautiful voice keep me company wherever I go now, even in this very moment. I´m going to go see him when he comes to Sweden, I MUST or else I´ll.. ok, not DIE, but almost! I long for the Strokes´ gig on the 4th of March, it´s going to be great and I think that I´m going to get a backstagepass as well, not sure yet, but I just might. It would be so nice. AH. Yesterday before I fell asleep I thought about the dilemma: Julian Casablancas wanting me to come along to his room, would I say yes or no? Well, if that was the only question, I´d say yes, oh yes, but Amanda is almost obsessed wiht him so I´d hurt her badly if I did. So I wouldn´t. He´s not my favourite Stroke anyway. I like Nick Valensi, but also Fab Moretti. I just like Nikoali Fraiture because he always seems so shy and insecure and lost. Our internet at home is gone, so I´m at my grandparent´s house now, sitting at their comupter, don´t worry though, my mum is paying for it. Our internet connection + nice channels as VH1 and MTV2 is going away from my life, but as well as that my mum´s husband is, because he payed for that, but I must say I´m glad about it. He was one of the strangest persons I´ve ever known. He lived with us for ten years, and I still didn´t really know him. Awfully strange man, but now he´s gone, yes! they´re not divorcred, but I guess they´re going to, which is for everyone´s best. Before I quit, I of course have to say "hullo" to some people; *Corduroy Boy (the mixtape is brilliant, gorgeous! But come to Sweden!) *Lindsey Baker (kittenmittens! yay! thank you!) *Joe Vester (not for any special reason, but he´s just really cool) *JohnJohn (haven´t heard from you for quite some time now..) *Paul (thank you SO MUCH for the B&S-video! It´s SO good, i watch it every day!) Sorry if I forgot anyone, but it wasn´t because i want to be mean, oh, yes, i remebered one more: AN Monchihi! My little snowangel, hi to you too! So goodnight Sinister boulevard, goodnight see ya soon goodnight Sinister boulevard, see you sometime Astrid x Goodnight, sinister boulevard _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Vinn en Nokia 5510, spela spray quiz http://quiz.spray.se +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sun Dec 30 11:43:41 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:43:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: if it's that kinda party, i'm gonna stick my dick in da mashed pataters Message-ID: So Christmas is over. But Athens seems unwilling to release it from its long, blood-red, manicured talon grip. I ventured into the city center to be swallowed into swarms of scary shoppers and skinny Santas, some pulling along tiny ponies. Mimes, street musicians, magicians, balloons, people, people, people. It was a bit frightening. A bit exciting. And I felt lost, caught unawares, with neither kids nor friends in tote, no money to spend on holiday shopping, no camera to at least capture the action. There weren�t even any after-Christmas sales! I was confused. Still am. I had a simply fantastic holiday though. On the Wednesday prior to Christmas, I hopped on a bus and had an action-packed five-hour journey north to spend a week with Ms. Velocity Girl herself, Kalliope. I had a front-row seat, which afforded me a fantastic view of the winter wonderland that existed 20 minutes north of Athens. It was breathtaking, and unexpected - rolling fields of white, snow-covered purple peaks everywhere I looked. I grew excited. It WAS Christmas! It was a bit nipply when I left Athens at 3 p.m. and the temperature swiftly plummeted along the way. By the time we stopped for our 15-minute break at 5:30, it was downright freezing - the bus driver decided to have some giggles by locking us out of the bus for 10 additional minutes. When we started up again, the sun had set and a silent, serious tone fell over the entire bus as the driver inched along to avoid certain death on the icy roads. It was rather silly, but fun all the same. I love emergency mode. When we passed through little villages, you could see villagers coming together to shovel out the main road and central square. They huddled in cafes and peered out of houses at anyone who dare venture outdoors. When I arrived in Volos, it was only 8 p.m., but the place was deserted, like a ghost town! More than 100,000 residents and only five could be seen. There were no taxis. I stood for a few minutes, watching my breath mist and fall heavily like ice, my teeth chattering, my bones vibrating, my toes freezing, before giving up and beginning to skate along the ice-covered sidewalks to the city center. Along the way I passed a city bus terminal and had the brilliant idea of taking a bus. The guy told me there would be one coming in five minutes, so I bought a ticket and waited with this friendly, frightening chap. When I got to Kalli�s apartment I never wanted to leave again. So warm and cozy. Mmm. I felt like the biggest wimp, this New England girl moaning about a spell of Grecian winter. But the television did say it was -7 Celsius that night so I think I was justified. My God! -7! I�m not entirely sure how cold that is, but considering it hardly ever dips below 10 here, it was quite dramatic. And now that I�m back in Athens, it�s up arouns 17 again. Ha! Insanity! Anyway... my resolution to stay indoors did not last long. Soon we were outside again, running along the beach, the SNOW-COVERED BEACH, making snow angels and burying the dog and hurtling snow-covered objects at each other and trying to shake big clumps of snow off the bamboo sun umbrellas. A mist was coming off the sea, and the whole scene was surreal. And SO FUCKING FUN! I felt like I was 10 years old again. Afterwards we walked to the video store to stock up on horror films. Walking, however, was a bit difficult, considering the fact that every surface was covered with at least two inches of solid ice. So we developed this crazy glide, and skated arm in arm down side streets, singing awful South Park and Christmas tunes. We spent a good chunk of time and money at the supermarket, stocking up on supplies to make enough soup and pie to take us well into the new year - if we didn�t eat it all within the week. Oops. Hell, It�s the holidays! Isn�t the whole point of it to eat, drink and be merry? Well, we did all that, in mass quanities. Oh what a spectacle we must have made, pushing an overflowing shopping carriage home through the streets covred with ice and slush. And later, when we headed to the local park with scary ski hats pulled low, large knives in hand on our way to cut some evergreen branches for our Christmas �tree.� We took the branches home, stuck them in a planter�s pot, tied them together with a bit of twine, and spent the rest of the night decorating it with balls of crumpled newspaper we painted and other random items. We also had an impromptu ghetto dance party. Inspired by my ghetto-looking ski hat, perhaps? Kalli popped on her Ice-T record and demonstrated how she could shake her ass, ghetto style and I was duly impressed. Shocked, in fact, by how bad-ass she truly is, deep down. No twee motherfucking in that house. Give Kalliope a ski mask and she looks like she could pop your ass. Shit, g-friend! Before long we were both bouncing to Cypress Hill and the Beasties. On the last night we shaked our asses a bit to a more subdued beat - that of Belle and Sebastian! At a caf�! It was completely unexpected. We decided it was high time we left the house and met a few of Kalliope�s friends at a caf�. The DJ played FIVE B&S songs! And other amazing songs in the meantime, including Heavenly and Love and a whole block of The Smiths. I was shocked. Yay! What else? I don�t know, it�s all a blissful haze. We were going to write a joint post but couldn�t find the time in all the fun we were having! HA! Okay, so perhaps that was a bit mean, but it�s kinda true. To be honest, I never expected to have such a fantastic holiday. I was feeling a bit down about spending my first Christmas away from home, and my family was treating me like a big traitor for being away. I didn�t think it would be a real Christmas without the cheesy movie and music marathons, the pecan pie and huge fragrant tree and evil grandmother evasion tactics. But it was in some ways better! There was no tradition, so we kind of made up the rules as we went along, throwing together bits of tradition, which resulted in interesting combinations. Like tiropita, curry, and apple pie. Ha! There were no annoying relatives to entertain. No reason to wake up at a certain time. No expectations. It�s a Christmas I�ll never forget. Actually, Kalliope�s apartment has begun to feel like home for me anyway. And after each visit, Kalliope and I feel more and more like sisters. To think, it was sinister that brought us together! Ah, what would I do without you, dear sinister? I also liked how Christmas day was punctuated by a steady stream of well-wishing text messages from others in the sinister family, and how that night #sinister was hopping with listees trying to escape their real families. Aww. I�ve spent the final days of 2001 listening to punk covers of the cheesiest songs of all time. �Mandy,� �Puff the Magic Dragon,� �Don�t Cry For Me Argentina.� They are surprisingly fantastic. All from Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. I have 11 of them, and I keep playing them over and over again. Then I started crying when I heard the Cheers theme song. �Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name.� It�s sad, non? Then there�s the Lionel Richie. The original, no covers there. My former flatmate, Emilie, once tried to single-handedly resurrect Lionel�s career. It was about the same time as a new greatest hits album was released, and she thought it was perfect timing for a comeback. She decided to start in our apartment, of course. Until then I had never realized how much Lionel I knew. More than you�d think. He is quite classy. And now �Dancing on the Ceiling� makes me want to dance all over my cold marble floors. This morning I blasted the punk covers and Lionel and.. Queen! And my flatmate was so startled she actually left her beserk cleaning frenzy to come in my room and ask �Are you playing Lionel Richie??? Just had to make sure.� I think it was a statement more than a question. I think maybe she was trying to imply something. Hmm. At least I wasn�t crying at the time. I�ve been playing a hell of a lot of Alchemy lately. It�s this strategy game from Shockwave.com that Kalliope got me addicted to. I�ve managed to ace it enough to make it to the very final level, which I of course cannot complete. Argh! Last night I made granola. As in, I took rolled oats, wheat flakes, barley flakes, peanuts, maple syrup, honey, raisins and other dried fruit and baked it. Which presupposes that I was in the supermarket, regarding rolled oats and wheat flakes with interest. This is weird for me, in case you didn�t know. I�m still reeling. Today I plan on making my own garden burgers with the mince soya product I also bought in the grains section. I don�t think I�ve ever stood for more than five seconds in the grains section. Whoa. Sadly, there was no bowling in Athens on Saturday. I considered it and even called Joanna. But she was in her father�s village up north. So. Yeah. Her absence also means I have no New Year�s Eve plans as of yet, which disturbs me a bit more. Traditionally I have welcomed in the new year by dancing my ass off to cheesy Top 40 and ghetto rap in a squalid club with my little sister and her best friend. I was willing to make do this year by dancing my ass off in a cheesy oldies club or even an indie club, but it looks unlikely. Coral doesn�t really celebrate New Year�s Eve, she told me yesterday, but might be convinced to hang out downtown as a cultural experience or something. This is kind of appealing. I mean, when I was little I used to watch the festivities in New York City and wish I was there. And now I actually live in a huge city, a 10-minute bus ride away from the biggest party in the country. I should go, non? Yeah. I just don�t want to go alone. Something about being alone on New Year�s Eve depresses the hell out of me. It�s bad enough not having anyone to kiss at midnight, at least I can console myself with the fact that I�m with other important people. Blech. Ah well. Happy New Years lovies.. MWAH ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Sun Dec 30 21:13:53 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:13:53 -0600 Subject: Sinister: did wire do the original 'i am superman'? Message-ID: A man in his mid-50's came into the record shop in which I am employed. He looked around a bit, then asked "where is the new belle and sebsatian single?" My ears perked up and I scooted on over and showed him. Sometimes life can be grand. This was the highlight of my birthday. The lowlight (???) was finding that the men who tiled my floor and moved my records had cracked my original pressing of the Clash' "London Calling", but only the second LP. I was very saddened by this. As some of you may know, whether you want to or not, I was in Glasgow last week for the concert. I would like to say hello to everyone I met. Truly, you are all wonderful people. A special thanks to Dimitra, for being nice and meeting with me before anyone else did. I'm very shy, and she made it quite nice. It was a grand show, although I was far in the back. Also thanks to Honey and Dimitra for providing a ticket to the Belfast show. I stayed up all night (hi will and danny) and then hopped on a train with Rachel Sunnyset and Dimitra to Belfast. The ferry ride was very rough. I felt very sick. I didn't help that I was mere feet away from the band. And what did I say? In my chance of a lifetime to meet my favorite band in the world? A brief word to stevie about sega rally championship, which I am sure is rigged. I'm such a git. (is that the right word?) The belfast show was fantastic, and I believe better than glasgow, mostly because I was very close. Both wonderful shows though. I actually met a few sinisters there, but not more than a few. hi to those I met. I have some lovely pictures of the sinisters. I won't post them. But I have them. And I like them. Best washing up album? Weezer's self titled. The first one. So shoot me, I've been listening to it for years. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Sun Dec 30 18:47:23 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:47:23 -0800 Subject: Sinister: just a thought for astrid Message-ID: hi everyone. i would like to take this oppurtunity to wish you a toadie new year! i just read astrids post in which he said: Do you want to hear something really, and I mean *really* strange? I´m going to tell you anyway. Well, last nite (well, the night between yesterday and today) I was lying in my bed, listening to Ryan Adams and I thought "FUCK, I hate being alone and I *HATE* sleeping alone in my bed, cause it makes me feel even lonelier" and about ten second after that thought, I listened to what Ryan sang, and what do I hear? "But, tonight you´re sleeping alone Without him Tonight you´re sleeping alone Without him" And I went like "WHOA!" because of several reasons: a) I know for a fact that I hadn´t read those lyrics or heard that song ever before b) he only sang that line for the first time when I heard it, I´ve checked and he wasn´t even mentioning it before in that song c) Something like that had never happened to me before Isn´t it strange? I think it´s really weird. Anyway. this reminded me of the song as you are which goes: As You Are Everyday I wake up alone I'm not like all the other boys And ever since I was young I had no choice But it's OK to lead me on I admit it's not much fun To be led on by such a one As you are As you are As you are And ever since I woke up I felt the net Was lifting me out of the sea And even when I'm sinking I feel the need But it's OK to lead me on I must admit it's not much fun To be alone with such a one As you are As you are As you are And ever since a long time I felt the rain And there was no danger And no more strangers As you are aww, i also love the lil poem that pseuo-inspired that As you are so once was i remember this as time goes by as i am now soon you will be remember this and pray for me i "try" to keep that sentiment in mind as i meander through life. love to you all ~~stine...oh yeah..im not a boy! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Dec 31 01:40:34 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:40:34 EST Subject: Sinister: It's December and I'm cold Message-ID: <91.15dd6392.29611c12@aol.com> Half of yesterday was wonderful. I went with close friends off to the big city to look at records and eat food. My sisters and my friend Nicole ended up dining at a gimmicky mexican restaurant called "Casa Bonita": it's quite an odd place--it looks like a historic building, but it's located in a strip mall. Odd juxtaposition. I think I've posted about it before, a long, long time ago, when I first joined the list. On the drive back we all had a very weird conversation--about dreams, about the disappointment of never being able to be anyone else--and mainly about this strange sinking feeling, a nostalgia of sorts, like a longing to be outside of your own body--I've had this feeling ever since I was a kid, it leaves as quickly as it comes, but it seems to be indescribable. My older sister told us all that as a child she referred to this feeling as "the pear." I thought that was interesting. >From now on, even though as I've gotten older I have this feeling less and less, I will constantly think of eating a pear whenever I feel it again. For those of you who are interested--I found out that in the latest issue of "Open City", Stuart David has an article/story (not sure what it was, I only got a chance to glance at it)--but, anyhow, it looks interesting. Go Stuart, good job on your success in getting published! So this conversation in the car seemed to be somewhat of a precursor of things to come. When I came home I discovered that after a four-month struggle, my dog died. I keep seeing a phantom Reggie, keep expecting him to toddle into my room and settle down to sleep in a pile of dirty clothes. But he's not here. I had to keep myself occupied today so I wouldn't have to think of it. I know that I'm an adult and that I shouldn't get so emotional about a dog, but I can't help it. He was like a person to me; I mean, christ, I loved that dog. Sometimes he seemed to understand me. I feel so schmaltzy saying all of this, but it's true. I will miss calling him by his various nicknames--Reggums, buddy, baby, snowball, snowwy, ol' powderhorn, big fella--gosh, and I will miss the strange noises my dad makes whenever he sees him, my dad does something to the effect of a screaming baby talk, "OOOOOH! BIG FELLA! LOOK AT THE BIG PUPPY!" But mostly, I think I'll miss hanging out with Reggie at the top of the steps where he'd always sit. And as he'd see me walking up the stairs, he'd do his stretched-out-anticipating wiggle. So, rest in peace big fella. You certainly made my life better. Oh--special props go out to Youn, who may be the only person who reads my posts. Oh--and also--for those of you who are to receive Xmas gifts from me: I'm sorry I was so slow in sending them out. I promise you, they are on their way. They will have to be New Years gifts and not Xmas ones. thank you, mandee m a y +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Dec 31 18:50:34 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:50:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beer Maps Message-ID: Stacey Dahling said: >Let it be noted that I will be seeing out 2001 wearing black knickers, a >racy black bra, and black and white striped socks. Such things are >important. Duly noted. But is that all? I thought about taking a second of the day to think of all the things that I have done this year. Then I got sidetracked by my new eye shadow. Actually, the loved one and I discussed our year over a few cheeky G&Ts last night. And we decreed that verily, this has been the best year ever. Perhaps. Maybe. Things have been better this year than ever, but I shan't bore people with all my "and then in May I did this ace thing, oh, and June was pretty good too....". Just that for a while I was in the wilderness and I finally feel like I've got an atlas to my life now. Or maybe just a wee map scrawled on the back of a beer mat, but that's enough for now. I don't have much planned for 2002, just getting pissed and eating toast (I think it's important to aim for the attainable). I do have a resolution: learn how to cook a roast dinner. I'm crap at cooking, but very good at eating. Some things are just sooooo unfair. Sorry, this really is a rubbish post. I just wanted to say hello and thank you to all the new people I've met this year since I joined Sinister in March. You're all very special and you have gone a long way to making the year so ace for me. I've met some of the kindest, most generous, genuine, smutty people this year on the list and have learn all sorts of fascinating facts about other cultures (did you know, for example, that a 'lollybag' is a man's 'package' in tight Y-fronts in Australian? See, the modern internet really is an educational tool). Thank you to Bad Girl in Training Honey, for managing us all and keeping an eye on us. I am very fond of you, one and all. Bulk Love and New Year Good Wishes Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melmoz13 at xxx.com Mon Dec 31 20:52:58 2001 From: melmoz13 at xxx.com (Melmoz) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:52:58 -0600 Subject: Sinister: her whole family are entertainers in Branson Message-ID: Hello to all in the Sinister world! Christmas has come and gone here in Texas, though this morning we got a small, finite dusting of snow. It was all gone and melted by 9am though in my part of the country. Now New Year's is upon me and I do not look upon its arrival with disapprobation. Let me tell you how much I love coming in to work everyday to find emails from all you lovelies out there! It makes my day much brighter to be able to imagine your lives and the cities that you live in. Living here all my life I can only see so much of life itself. I love to imagine all the things you talk about and the troubles you find yourself in. It is a good release valve for all of us to have, I believe. Well my duty has been performed by introducing a new list member to the group recently! VWest will be joining us soon after his stint in the nursery, and I am anxious to hear what he has to say about life. Welcome V! He has an absolutely stunning taste in music, in home furniture, and in friends (he recently picked my best friend Stacey and myself as pals)! He has the coolest house I have ever seen. Very Scandinavian. Not to mention the very cool and auspicious ba-gua skylight. On Saturday night, we three hung out at his pad and had a blast. We got Mexican food from this cool little shack, called a 'tacquiera' in Spanish. On the way there and back we played an interesting and somewhat difficult game of 'name that tune' in his car. I was amazed by his knowledge! When we got back to the house, we ate and talked, then we drove out to Tower Records in Dallas to buy some cd's. I picked up some good ones. The Reindeer Section is totally brilliant, thanks to whoever it was on the list who recommended them. I also got TBS, Rufus Wainwright, Tom Waits and Pulp. I got the Pulp idea from someone on the list too who recommended 'Pencil Skirt', which is now one of my fave songs! Thanks to all of you that I have gotten ideas from. Also, you guys should check out Spain, they are awesome. When we got back from that, we listened to music for a long time in his 'music room', then we watched High Fidelity. An awesome night that ended around 3am! I can't wait for the next one! Also, I got the Pete Yorn cd, and I highly approve of it as well. Hope that the four people I sent presents to liked them. I know that I forgot to send my Sinister handle with the package so you knew who it was from, but if you got a package from Melissa Williams from Texas then this is me! I really enjoyed the ones I have received so far. Kate (Katia913) sent me the coolest aqua hand knitted scarf that is so long and fluffy, and it works so well right now in our relative-Texas cold. I got another gift from someone (forgot the name on the gift right now, what it Chin?) that was a clay figure of a rock star with his guitar, assuming it was supposed to be Stuart or something but it was entirely broken into little pieces. All the same I loved it anyway, along with the stocking of candy with my name on it. I don't think that I have ever made New Year's Resolutions, and I am not about to start now. I just need to keep up with my workout routine and not buy too many cd's (OK, Vince, you can stop laughing at that one, you know how much I spend!). I have started work on my Master's degree now and my first semester ended in grades of all A's, so that was good. Now I begin work on the proper courses that are IT intensive, so that should be fun! Programming is such a blast. I wish I knew how to express myself better in words. If you can believe it, I am much worse in person.Astrid, I love reading your posts about your life! Reminds me of when I was young. I remember the point when I stopped being so self-conscious and thought 'what the hell, who cares what others think'. It is a great feeling. Of course, Stacey Dahling's posts are totally interesting with the Athens perspective. I hope that this new year brings lots of good fortune to everyone. Lord knows we could all use some good luck. Happy New Year everyone, Melmoz p.s. Why don't I live in the UK so I could visit you guys and get to go to B&S shows and Sinister get-togethers? I am so jealous of the lot of you over there! I think that us four Texans that I know should get together some time and have our own party, then we can rant and rave about it and make everyone jealous of us for a change! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "It was dark as I drove the point home, and on cold leather seats, well it suddenly struck me, I just might die with a smile on my face after all." -The Smiths &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Dec 31 15:13:37 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:13:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Many of our festivals celebrate moments of light or darkness Message-ID: <20011231151337.C843@candle.btinternet.com> This post is for *you* I can never think of subject lines. Dimitra picked this one for me. She spotted it in an art gallery in Sheffield, on a board explaining vision and shape and form and sight, trying to explain to everybody that artists can see the world in different ways to everyone else. I'm not sure if they can really. I mean: I'm not sure if they are *different* to everyone else; they are just better trained. More practised. We are having a Sinister Christmas this year. Greek Dimitra is visiting, from Greece, and we have taken over the stereo and made my parents listen to all sorts of music they have never heard before. "A lot of these songs seem to be about cigarettes," said my mother, listening to the Tindersticks. Dimitra arrived in Britain a long long time ago now. It was over a fortnight ago, in fact. I met her off of the train, and we went to the pub. I told her lots of exciting things, and showed her the large variety of fried food which can be obtained in a Scottish chip shop. "Don't you die if you eat all that stuff?" she said. On Christmas Eve I went out to dinner with some old friends. We ate and drank, and went into the town centre. I realised that last year, I did the very same thing and came home and posted about it. Looking back, it feels like *that* was the start of the last year, and Christmas Day last week was the start of the new year, not tonight. Time to tear up all the calendars and start writing in the new ones. Before Christmas, I went to Dundee for the weekend to visit Dimitra and Rachel and Danny. Rachel was feeling bossy, and arranged a weekend of "educational fun" for all of us. We went to the cinema, made our own CD, and cooked some rather spicy food. Belle the Kissing Dog was very licky, and kept barking at the hamster when the rest of us were trying to concentrate. If you want to reread the post I wrote last Christmas, you could go and look it up in the archives. I would tell you the address, but the archives don't seem to like me right now, so I can't find it. The same happened this Christmas as the last one, except that this year I sat talking to a girl I used to be in love with. We didn't talk about much important. But we talked, and that was nice. She looked like anyone else from that town does. Me and Dimitra looked like Sinister people, rather out of place. We weren't comfortable in the noisy, hot, cramped bars; but I stayed and talked anyhow. I did lots of other things with Dimitra whilst she was here. We went to a Belle and Sebastian gig, which was good, and then I stayed up all night with Danny and Matt and Calumn and Ken in an expensive-but-cosy cafe. The cafe had a bathtub in it, filled with water and with fish swimming around. Midway through the night, a group of men came in. One by one, they walked up to the bathtub and dipped the tops of their heads in it before being shown out by the doorman. I'm not sure what they were doing, or why. I hope the fish aren't poisoned now by cheap hair gel. They didn't look too healthy to start with. Also, I took Dimitra to the beach and she spun round in circles. We went to Sheffield and met John from Leicester. We sat around in my parents' house and drank vodka. On Christmas night, when all was dark, we sat leant back in my parents' big leather armchairs, listening to B&S on the stereo, and I told Dimitra about the girl she had just met. Who she was in my life story. I fetched down from my bedroom the box of letters I keep from her, from when I was younger, and we read through some of them. They touched me, greatly. If this is the new year, then I should start making resolutions. I resolve to change things this year. I resolve to change myself. All the changes I've made in the past year were on the inside, hidden under my clothes. Well, some of them were hidden out in the open, but they were still hidden. This year I want to change the things on the outside. Maybe I should wear my hair in pigtails more often, and be proud of it. Maybe I should change my voice. I've never liked the sound of my voice. I want to get back in touch with the girl I wrote letters to back when I was in school. [in case you haven't been to the archives, I loved this girl. we wrote letters to each other every week even though we saw each other every day but hardly spoke. then she got a boyfriend and stopped.] I want to get in touch with her just because I want to know what she is doing and thinking now, and I want her to know what I am thinking now. I told her nearly everything about myself back then. Maybe if I write to her again, I can tell her the rest of it. Tonight I am going to go out, and tomorrow I am going to rest. The day after, I want to go out and buy a notebook, so I can start writing things down. If I start writing things down, I will get better at putting things into words. If I start putting things into words, I might be able to explain things a little better. If I can do that, I will be able to do anything. Maybe even have plaited hair in public a bit more often. lots of love to all of you. it's wintertime, so stand round a bonfire, look up at the stars, and hug each other whilst thinking how far away and beautiful they are. xxxxx will -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Mon Dec 31 06:52:18 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:52:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mourning the lack of space odyssey revivals Message-ID: My family has this weird New Year�s tradition. It all started 25 years ago with a bottle of cheap champagne. My parents were getting together with this other couple on New Year�s Eve, celebrating a midnight over said bottle of champagne, brought by the non-host couple. When they emptied said bottle, someone had the brilliant idea of writing out their New Year�s resolutions and predictions on teeny slips of paper, slipping them inside the bottle and sealing the bottle with wax. Then the bottle was handed over to the host couple with the words, �next year you come to our house, with the bottle, and we open the resolutions and see how many came true.� So the host couple did just that. A year later, they showed up with the bottle, but the silly young things that they were played a trick on the other couple, pretending they had forgotten the bottle, disguising it in a fruit basket or something. Thus began a tradition that continues to this day. Every year, this couple meets with my parents, they alternate locations. The bottle is brought, decorated or disguised in clever ways. One year it was baked in a cake. Another - my favorite - a Cabbage Patch doll was beheaded, stuffing was removed, and the bottle was slipped inside and carried in all swaddled in clothes, looking suspiciously like a real baby. The bottle is bursting with 25 years worth of resolutions and they have great fun reading them all over again each year. Imagine reading resolutions at 50 years old that you made when you were 25! Every other year, however, around Dec. 27, my parents start running around the house in a mad frenzy, trying to come up with ideas about how to decorate the bottle. It gets tough after 25 years, I guess. Last time I think my dad rigged up this complicated mini-fireworks display, propelled out of the bottle. Silly nuclear physicists! Anyway, my sister and I tried to copy this tradition, with the couple�s daughter, with a ginger ale bottle, when we were 10. It didn�t work as well, nor last as long. Maybe someday I�ll have someone to do this with. There is a Greek saying that, roughly translated, goes: �Those who walk the streets at night get poo on their shoe.� I giggled when I first heard this. But now now I know it�s true. I was up walking the streets this morning at the ass-crack of dawn, apparently before all the earnest old ladies attack the sidewalk with hose and broom. Don�t fret. I didn�t get any poo on my shoe. But under veil of night I just mighta. There was shit everywhere! And not just in neat lil piles, but in smooshed lil streaks, as if someone had not only stepped in it, but slipped and fell in it. My heart went out to these poor souls. I imagined them walking home along the brothel street after a nice end-of-the-year paid shag, feeling quite pleased with themselves, when suddenly� �Shit!� Literally. Speaking of weird sightings at 8 a.m. - today I saw two children walking from storefront to storefront jangling bells and singing songs. I thought this very odd at first, another syndrome of the weird Christmas-is-over-but-the-Athenians-refuse-to-admit-it thingie. Carolers? On Dec. 31? Then, as I was sitting here writing this and the doorbell went off three times at fucking 8:30 a.m. and I was cursing and wondering what the world was coming to, I heard the distant sound of more bells and children voices. And I remembered something about some tradition... children� door to door� singing for change or candy or something? Oooh! How exciting then! Another cultural first! I must research. Eek! I just looked in the mirror and realized I have Brady-Bunch era Florence Henderson hair today! Well, at least I can comfort myself in the knowledge that the rest of me does not look like Florence Henderson. This woman at work really did look like Florence Henderson. I wonder what that feels like, waking up one day, at age 55, and realizing you look like an old Florence Henderson. Let it be noted that I will be seeing out 2001 wearing black knickers, a racy black bra, and black and white striped socks. Such things are important. Okay..off to certain death at the hands of a pair of eight-year-old devils, on armed with a brand spanking new BB GUN. How can parents be so dumb? Kronia polla! MWAH! ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+