From lutin at xxx.net  Mon Jan  1 02:12:51 2001
From: lutin at xxx.net (Lutin)
Date: 31 Dec 2000 18:12:51 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Two More Days
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This is my initial Sinister post.

Never heard of Guided By Voices before but I checked it out at www.cdnow.com
--  found that Teenage FBI is on their Do The Collapse (1999) album.
Interesting
band -- reminds me a little of Warren Zevon but definitely not of Belle and
Sebastian.  There is an "inner peace" that I feel while listening to B&S and
miss with GBV ; Badly Drawn Boy more nearly approaches it.

       Lutin
"Old and a student still -- I don't forget,
Most mossy Sir!  Also a learned man
Continues study, since naught else he can.
'Tis thus one builds a moderate house of cards;
The greatest minds ne'er end them afterwards."
        Goethe : Faust, Part 2, Act 2



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Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 7:47 AM
Subject: Sinister: Two More Days


>  I am going to need a new CD case thing.
> I have ordered five, no wait, six CDs from amazon.com the day before
> thanksgiving, which they've informed me via email have been shipped on
> december twenty third.  it should be in my mailbox by the time I get back.
> All by Guided by Voices, too.  My friend, who introduced me to Belle and
> Sebastian as well, informs me that only three of the six CDs I bought are
> good.  Under the Bushes Under the Stars, which is the one I'm most looking
> forward to, to be frank, apparently is by GBV overcome by the
> devil, or some kind of music satan... I think her opinion may have
something
> to do with the fact that the first song on the CD, Teenage FBI, was in the
> Buffy soundtrack...
> GBV somehow reminds me of B&S.  Maybe it's just because the same person
> introduced me to both of them, but they do...  Not their music, because
the
> music is pretty different, but just something about them...  It can't be
the
> band members, either, because GBV is, well, old compared to B&S.  Or at
least
> from what I know.
> That was long.  If anyone bothers to read this, which I doubt they will
after
> scrolling down, please tell me what B&S and GBV have in common.  Maybe
they
> don't have anything in common at all to begin with, and it's just all in
my
> head...
> I really should stop writing now.

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From Histrianic at xxx.com  Mon Jan  1 11:47:46 2001
From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 06:47:46 EST
Subject: Sinister: All Righty Then...
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Okay, I feel really stupid after reading that mail...  I guess Jane of the 
Waking Universe is the one on Under the bushes Under the stars, or maybe 
something else... Maybe I wasn't looking forward to Under the bushes Under 
the stars at all to begin with, maybe it was Do the collapse, but I just got 
the names confused... Heh.

It started snowing here today, and frankly, a twenty hour flight in snow is 
not fun.  I have to leave my house at six in the morning to miss the morning 
traffic.  I heard it snowed 11 inches in New York, is that true?  Because if 
it is, I'm screwed.  Screwed for good.  I have two gigantic suitcases and a 
backpack to carry.  I wonder if my plane will be cancelled.  I hope not.  

Okay, I'm assuming no one has seen the Still Alarm.  It's about these two 
friends, Ed and Bob, who are in a hotel room.  The hotel goes on fire, and 
these two firemen come in and start playing the violin while waiting for a 
wall to fall.  The second fireman, whom I double cast to play the part of the 
bellboy as well, has to giggle and learn to play the violin in two weeks.  He 
was last minute cast because the guy that I had been counting on to play the 
part turned me down.  He was apparently "too busy, because [he's] taking two 
history courses this term" or something of that sort.  Blech.  

The second fireman is rather baffling.  At our first rehearsal with the 
entire cast, a girl named Juanita came and raped him during rehearsal.  It 
was rather disconcerting.  And then on the last day of school, he did 
something entirely confusing.  My school charters buses, because we're in the 
boonie town of exeter, way up in new hampshire, and it would be very 
difficult for us students to get to New York, Boston, etc. on our own.  So 
there were three buses heading to New York on the street, and the second and 
the third buses were almost full, while the first one was practically empty.  
So I climbed onto the bus, dragging my friend Cathy and my incredibly 
sarcastic but funny roommate Meg along.  Then I went to make sure my name was 
on the list, because I had lost my ticket.  On the way back to the bus, I run 
into Rob the Second Fireman, who asks me which bus I am on, and then proceeds 
to switch buses immediately after hearing my response.  I assumed from this 
act of whatever the hell it was that he would tal
k to me or somehow acknowledge my existence on the bus, during the seven hour 
ride.  However, he chose to pace up and down the aisle about twenty times 
saying "I don't know where to sit" and then sat all the way up in the front.  
And I was sitting all the way in the back.  And he didn't talk to me once 
during the entire ride.  He just sat there listening to his CD player, and I 
have no clue as to what he was listening to.  Maybe B&S.  But that's not the 
point.  The point is, why the hell did he switch buses if he didn't want to 
talk to me?  He didn't seem very interested in talking to anyone else, 
either...  Aghhh.....

I don't like travelling.  I enjoy seeing new places, I just don't like plane 
rides, or bus rides, or trains...  

A lot of people call me the psychotic bitch.  I wonder if there's a reason to 
this?  

I'm not feeling up to the travel stuff.  I really want one of those Jetsons 
things, where you step into a cylinder thing and you're at your destination.  
Someone come up with a way to travel at velocity...

I'm feeling crappy overall, I guess.  I don't want to leave home, but I want 
to see my friends and ask Rob what the hell that bus thing was, but I'm not 
feeling up to a twenty hour plane ride and then a seven hour bus ride, but I 
really miss my dorm, but home is so comfortable, but I belong there, not 
here...  that was one heck of a run on.  I am going to go take a shower now, 
just because I don't want to take one tomorrow morning when things are going 
to be hectic.  

Lots of love and a Kevin Spacey movie, because he's a really good actor.

Did that mention of B&S count as B&S content?  In case it doesn't, here's a 
little commentary on The Model:
I like that song.  It makes me wanna laugh, not the hysterical, hyper laugh, 
but the deep, really happy laugh that you feel inside yourself when you're 
high.  I get high off of that song.
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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Mon Jan  1 12:21:05 2001
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:21:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Happy Nude Year
Message-ID: <20010101122105.3940.qmail@web311.mail.yahoo.com>

ow my head

hiya sinister! Playing think-while-you-drink for 5
hours on the trot is not something I recommend.  hope
all your hangovers are as mild as mine isn't and that
the xmas fairy brought you everything you wanted and
nothing you needed.  

This year I'm going to stop taking the piss out of the
Gentle Waves since I got Swansong For You for xmas
I've been listening to it lots and I think its a hooj
improvement on the last album.  Right now it's getting
me through the difficult year-long B&S withdrawal
period.  

I've also resolved to see more live music.  Just a
shame that hardly any good bands play Portsmouth (and
when they do they get heckled - like Eels).  But we're
all tossers here you know - just the majority.  ah
well.

Have fun in '01 (shit nearly-rhyme I know)

Robster







  



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From james at xxx.uk  Mon Jan  1 18:12:31 2001
From: james at xxx.uk (James Pattison)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:12:31 +0000
Subject: No subject
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Someone mentioned a while ago you could get B&S ringtones for mobiles ..
does anyone remember where i like the sound of that.
Cheers
J
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From kgirton at xxx.com  Mon Jan  1 23:12:01 2001
From: kgirton at xxx.com (Kim)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:12:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Kid in the snow, way to go; it only happens once a year...
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Hello, and Happy New Year, Sinisterees --
...From a lurker with the annoying habit of posting periodically so that she doesn't quite qualify as a full-on lurker, because she's never quite qualified as a full-on anything, and it'd be a shame to break the streak now...
   I know it's a bit late for a Happy New Year, because people tend to say "Happy New Year" before the actual New Year, just shuffling it off with the "Happy Holidays" generic greetings...  But I wanted to make sure that I wished everyone on the list a Happy New Year, and it's January 1st, so I still have until midnight before I'm technically sending relatively belated Happy New Year wishes.  At least, that's how I explained it to myself.  It probably makes no sense at all after being verbalized.
   To answer a recent opinion poll: my own "This Song Always Reminds Me of the New Year" song is Better Than Ezra's "This Time of Year."  I suppose it's actually about autumn and change and all the metaphorical content therein, but it's a beautiful song, and the December-to-January turnover makes me think about change more than autumn does.  Which may point to something askew in my thought patterns, but it wouldn't be surprising.  This year, though, I've been listening to a Beggar's Banquet compilation I got for Christmas from a friend (who happens to be my musical mentor and is the one who introduced me to Belle & Sebastian back in college -- there's the tie-in), and now 2001's song will always be Nigo's "Freediving."  Running a close second is The Black Watch's "Bring Me the Shears!" (on New Hamsphire's Saltwater Records, in case you care).  What a great song.
   Anyway, thank you all for brightening my days with your questions and stories and streams-of-consciousness writings, and for using words in your posts that I rarely hear in regular conversation, let alone use myself, which is always refreshing.
  Best wishes for the New Year to everyone!  
  Back to straddling the precarious line between lurker and poster,
   Kim
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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 00:44:52 2001
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:44:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: frozen ducks,chubby cherubs and the bride of frankenstein....
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 hello.....
 ...well happy new year to everyperson and i hope you
 all had a lovely christmas.....i'm sure you're all
 sick of tales of other peoples festive celebrations
 and mine arent really that interesting....but i'll
 make you all suffer anyway.....
 ....well christmas itself was offically great...on
 christmas eve all my family went to church in a big
 draughty school hall which wasnt really that tinsely
 but there were lots of chubby faced cherubs looking
 excited at the thought of mr claus so i couldnt help
 but feel all warm and spangly....it did cross my
 mind
 that by 11 o clock the next morning said cherubs
 would
 be vomiting up the vast quantities of chocolate they
 had consumed and stamping on the new pokewotsit toys
 they had recieved from exasperated parents...but
 youre
 only young once and i felt spangly all the same....
 ....christmas day was lovely as well...got some WOW!
 presents including pulp,david bowie and kathryn
 williams cd's....if you havent already got the
 kathryn
 williams one (little black numbers) then i cant
 emphasise enough how good and wonderful and
 beautiful
 it is.....if you buy a copy and dont like then you
 can
 come round my house and poke my eyes out with a
 pointy
 stick....and thats as good a recommendation as i can
 give....had a nice crimbo dinner with asorted
 relatives,got a wee bit tipsy,ate some more and
 snoozed while people with bad irish accents drowned
 in
 a big icy boat (titanic was on)....so it was a
 normal,safe,boring.....but fantastic christmas....
 ...hmmmmm...as for the rest of the festive
 time....it
 was a bit mixed...like a kind of
 post-christmas/whole
 year burnout....i've just felt a bit low all
 week....no paticular immense reason....just the
 usual
 paranoia,lonliness and general arggggghhh
 feeling...but i went and sat in a big park in town
 while the last of the snow was melting...it was
 about
 four o clock in the afternoon, the sun was looking a
 bit tired and the big pond was half frozen over so
 the
 some of the ducks had to stand on the ice and
 shiver..and i felt a bit better after sitting there
 for half an hour....
 ...as for new years eve...hmmmm....that was
 kindagood
 but kindadepressing at the same time....started the
 evening by drinking cheap champagne and blue nun...i
 felt like a real yuppie...and then went to the only
 safe haven for goodish music here and got
 drunk....but
 everyone was being really miserable and i seemed to
 be
 the only one determined to have a good time...which
 makes a change because its usually the other way
 round...so evryone got sick of being in the pub so
 we
 went to someones house,smoked bad things,saw in the
 new year,hugged everybody,watched the bride of
 frankenstein,felt ill,felt better,felt sleepy and
 walked home about three o clock.....i then felt
 really
 awful and cried for the first time in ages..then i
 wrote down loads of resolutiony type stuff and felt
 much better before finally going to sleep in the
 smallest of hours....
 ...so thats been my festive time.....not too
 gripping
 but quite nice overall....i hope everybody has the
 best year ever.....
 ta ta! 


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From camo811 at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 01:37:43 2001
From: camo811 at xxx.com (Derek s)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:37:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura
Message-ID: <20010102013743.78038.qmail@web10907.mail.yahoo.com>

 
 

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From camo811 at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 01:45:13 2001
From: camo811 at xxx.com (Derek s)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:45:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura
Message-ID: <20010102014513.12238.qmail@web10904.mail.yahoo.com>

       Well the first Camera obscura post was the
biggest mistake I've ever made, and I do apologize.
I'm still getting used to a new email system.
      Well anyway thats enough appy-polly-logies (I
watched A clockwork Orange last night) I had a
wonderful New years and got rather plastered.  Anyway
I think this is list abuse but I have no concerns for
other peoples feelings anymore so I'm going to say it
anyway (that was a joke for anyone who is uptight
right now). I'm trying to set myself up with a
darkroom but have been unable to find any prices of
equipment on the internet, if anyone could send me
some info it would be greatly appreciated.
BS CONTENT: Is the year of no touring almost over? I
have to see a B&S show in order to die peacefully.  My
life is already incomplete because I never got to see
Smashing Pumpkins before the break-up. I have to admit
that I cried when they did VH-1 story tellers.  That's
enough now, goodnight...


                                   Derek

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From lauren0 at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 02:51:11 2001
From: lauren0 at xxx.com (Lauren L.)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:51:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: number ones everywhere!
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Hello out there...  

Happy 2001!

Today is a big day.  Not only is today oneoneone, but
it is also the day I've found the courage to type out
my first post to Sinister.

My name is Lauren.  I'm 16, and I like to sing, write,
paint, and draw, although I can do none of those
things very well.  I like music too.  Some people know
me as "oranges." That's my nickname when I chat in
#sinister, where I have made some very weird, but
sweet friends.  Usually while I'm chatting I'm
painting something, and the paints get on my fingers. 
So, I have a very colorful keyboard.  I picked my
nickname because I just started typing in words that
came into my head until I found a nickname that wasn't
already taken by some IRC chatter out there.

I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana.  The weathermen got
our hopes up and told us it might snow early this
morning, but they were wrong.  No snow.  I probably
would have been devastated if I had been awake at 6
am.  
I am a pretty big fan of Iron Chef, so you can imagine
how I danced around when I discovered that there was a
MARATHON on today.  That's what I did today.  I
watched Iron Chef, ran around the street, and painted
some things.  I think it's going to be a good year.

See, the reason I never posted before is because I
never had much of anything interesting to say, and I
still don't.  Oh well.

Take care!

Lauren

PS don't worry this won't happen again   





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From wj.chou at xxx.be  Tue Jan  2 03:36:22 2001
From: wj.chou at xxx.be (Wen Jun)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 04:36:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: First post
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Hello,
Heum...I'm a bit nervous as it's the first time I send a mail to so many
people in same time.
Today I've found something to say: Happy New Year, bonne année, xing nian
hao.
Sorry and adieu.
Wen

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From phil-two at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 03:44:46 2001
From: phil-two at xxx.com (Phil Two)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:44:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: The Year of Cute: 2000
Message-ID: <383786255.978407086077.JavaMail.root@web394-mc>

I just wanted to wish everyone a very happy 2001.  I, for one, had a
spectacular New Years here visiting London.  Got to meet several London
sinister'ites at the New Years shindig.  I was the mildly-drunk dancing
asian boy with the maroon shoes.

But in early retrospect, I think this year has marked a serious turning
point in my life.  Just last new years, I was bump n' grinding to Mobb Deep
and wondering when the next Rawkus Hiphop LP was coming out.  And NOW, Im
twirling around harmonizing something about terry underwear and desperatly
awaiting the next Tahiti80 EP.  And at the risk of sounding incredibly
corny, the world just seems so much cuter!!  From hello kitty to polar bear
pajamas to bumblebees to chef outfits to pudgy jewish boys to cibo matto -
it seems everything these days induces japanese-schoolgirl giggles in me. 
I'm not sure, but right now, I'm attributing it to the music.

Well, I also hope that you are all having a pleasant post-Christmas,
exchanging questionable gifts you may have received.  I was blessed with a
365-day Jeopardy calendar from mommy, a box of gummi-worms from my best
friend, and a couple of CDs that I'm convinced my sister rummaged out of the
bargain bin at Tower Records.  If anyone is interested, I was just notified
via email that there is up to 60% off over 200 styles and colors at gap.com

I have 2 weeks until my semester in Paris begins.  I'm nervous since I
didn't send in a housing deposit to my university so now I must find a flat
on my own.  Anybody looking for a roommate in Paris, by the way?  Or live
there and want to play, or something?  Also, happy Hannukah.

Love,
Phil-Two


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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 05:23:14 2001
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 05:23:14 -0000
Subject: Sinister: number ones everywhere!
Message-ID: <F21NyKRBMz2vN9EP60A00009e4a@hotmail.com>


>I am a pretty big fan of Iron Chef, so you can imagine
>how I danced around when I discovered that there was a
>MARATHON on today.  That's what I did today.  I
>watched Iron Chef, ran around the street, and painted
>some things.  I think it's going to be a good year.

          virgin poster lauren l. (i'm l too doll) deserves
          kudos for being an Iron Chef fan...nothing turns me
          on more than an hour of men sweating over raw fish and
          whether avacado goes well with loster...
                     -listdomlisa
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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Tue Jan  2 13:32:45 2001
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 08:32:45 -0500
Subject: Sinister: well, we have decided i'm a spoiled brat
Message-ID: <F164xRGFss0TgykCipP00008049@hotmail.com>

morning sweeties...
well, after some conferring with some new friends in #sinister, i/we have 
decided that i am a spoiled brat...xmas is over and done with, time to burn 
the tree or something.
this past weekend was a blast. i went out every night and just played hard. 
saturday night was special cuz i finally got to see mr matt visiting all the 
way from lundun. debs and diana and matt and i thought we were going to 
toronto blow-up, but we basically paid 5 bucks so we could use the can. no 
throw-up. we went to a pub pub and proceeded to enjoy ourselves. i'm am 
never so silly or outgoing as when i'm with these guys...okay i'm usually 
trashed as well...but then next morning we were listening to stuff that we 
might play at the bar this friday...that was nice.
well, new years in the gay community is something that everyone should 
experience once. i went to a bootyful club and danced my ass off...there 
were transvestites, drag queens, hustlers, hookers, half naked boys painted 
silver...just a blast. i didn't have any money left so i was well behaved 
and actually remember the whole night. i tried converting some girls that 
came over to our party, but b&s isn't really their cuppa tea...
well, enough of this, i'm supposed to be working or something...
a.

The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories."
		-Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton.

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Jan  2 16:04:17 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:04:17 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Ice, snow where the New Year goes 
Message-ID: <200101021559.PAA26310@missprint.org>

Hello,

Haven't posted for an absolute year!  Last time I think it was still in 
the distant past of year 2000.

I have spent my Christmas doing coursework which involves making a circle 
move on the computer, which was much more fun than partying and drinking, 
not.  I asked Santa for a girlfriend and I never got one at the end either, 
grrr, but I guess Santa thought it'd be rude to push girls down chimneys.

All was made up for after that tho, cos I've had the most fun and lovely 
three days in London ever, going drinking and dancing and dancing and 
revolutionising and the rather good Pine Fox listening with a lot of 
lovely fellow sinisters including three lovely visitors from New York who 
are lovely and grate!  As lovely and grate as the lovely New Year itself 
which has the same initials as New York. (showing off my grate observation 
skills)

I have just used the word lovely a lot of times, but I really should have 
used a stronger term than just lovely, like, erm.... very very very very 
lovely.

There was still a warm glow inside me when I was on my (slow) trains home, 
but then I was frozen to death when I had to walk 2 miles home from the 
train station cos there was no taxi.  I guess there had to be some pain to 
go with all that pleasure!

Have a happpppy New Year everyone.

Dances and Red Bulls
Ken
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All wrapped up, in her winter wardrobe, she hurries by so fast
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan  3 00:59:50 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:59:50 EST
Subject: Sinister: the opposite of coffee.
Message-ID: <8b.9adfc6.2783d386@aol.com>

Today, well, today found me in an odd way.  First off, I went out with a boy 
last night that I don't really like, but went anyway just because I had 
nothing else to do. He is a nice enough boy, and I am not trying to say 
anything about him. Just wondering more what it says about me that I do that 
sort of thing.

I listened to him go on and on about creationism vs. evolutionism.  I hate 
when people talk to you like their ideas are just so profound and cutting 
edge...especially when it's something that the universal consciousness as a 
whole has been struggling with forever.  In the end I just asked him to kiss 
me for a while...partly so he would have to shut up and partly because I just 
felt like kissing.  I thought it would make me come round to him more, but it 
didn't.

Anyway, I woke up this morning and went for breakfast at this little diner 
near my place.  I had a momentary bout of insanity or something and forgot 
what day it was entirely. I asked the waitress, she said it was Sunday...I 
mumbled something about having lost my mind and she replied "We all have, 
Hun. We all have." I laughed...It was funny to me. She is probably right too, 
I think we have all gone mad in one way or another. 

I went to the grocery and shopped for a while. Aisles and Aisles and Aisles 
of food, fabric sheets, trash bags, etc. I randomly grabbed things and put 
them in my cart. I stood for a while daydreaming right in front of the 
chicken. That was odd.  I checked out, and the young boy working the register 
apparently had been talking to me for a while and I hadn't been listening. I 
came to hearing him say repeatedly "ma'am, ma'am, would you like paper or 
plastic." It was an awkward experience all in all. I loaded my car and headed 
home. I put my groceries away and headed for the sofa. I fell to sleep for a 
while. 

I woke up and made myself a sandwich (light on the mayo, heavy on the 
mustard), I even cut it in fours...I hadn't done that before...ate it while a 
cigarette burned in an ashtray. I considered having friends over for the 
holiday, perhaps I would have made them dinner or something. Decided against 
that. 

I have fallen into a funk, that is certain. The sad thing is...I don't even 
care. I don't even want to do anything about it.  I wondered for a 
while...backtracking really to see if I could see if there was something that 
I could put my finger on. I couldn't recall anything good, bad, or otherwise. 
I have just slipped into a rut. 

I have been listening to Yo La Tengo at blaring volumes the past couple of 
days.  I have really fallen in love with them. 

Anyway, back to my day... I wandered for a while about relativity. Nothing 
fantastic really. Just wondered about the romantic capabilities of random 
people. Like receiving love from someone otherwise incapable of love and 
having it be enough just because you knew it was the maximum. I remembered 
then what possibly started it. I ran into my ex on Friday. In fact I was 
standing right behind him at the big bank downtown. We didn't talk much. 
Well, we didn't talk at all really. But we exchanged the strangest look. It 
seemed to last for like 45 seconds. I think we were both too numb to speak. 
It was a two hour movie wrapped into about 68 seconds. I still could love him 
or something. But I won't allow myself... and there lies the rub. I fear we 
belong together, and I can't get past the past with him. Love is a lottery, 
to be sure. I don't know if I can make it through another spin of the wheel, 
pull of the lever, or whatever.

I should probably include some Belle and Sebastian content, eh? Well, I love 
them. Is that enough? (i may or may not elaborate later) I was recently 
turned on to Looper. Impossible Things # 2 truly inspired me to begin a 
relationship based on nothing but coorespondence (email or otherwise.)

If a girl says that she loves a boy and he didn't hear it..Did she make a 
sound at all? or whatever. 

I am going to watch "Barfly" so I am going to end my rant with this quote:
"the well balanced individual is insane." charles bukowski

Happy New Year and all that jazz.
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From garymaher at xxx.com  Wed Jan  3 06:28:04 2001
From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:28:04 -0500
Subject: Sinister: He played a show at the age of 35.  (It could have been a brilliant veneer.)
Message-ID: <20010103.012807.-205863.3.garymaher@juno.com>

It's so hard
It's so hard to be clever
(All work and no play makes Gary a dull toy.)
It's so hard to be clever when you're so fucking tired.

The above took me 20 minutes.  It's THAT hard!

Anyhoo, Overture Curtain Lights, blah blah blah . . .  (Don't ask.  I
heard it on Bugs Bunny.  Which reminds me of the Bugaloos.  I just read
that the guys who wrote the theme to the Bugaloos also wrote Killing Me
Softly.  Go figure!  I guess every songwriter has a couple of duds.  Good
thing they have The Bugaloos to look back on!)

(The author pauses, thinks: "Is that enough streamofconsciousness
witticism to allow me to plug my band's webcast without offending the
earthy sensibilities of sinisterdom, or do I have to make the plug witty
too?  Oh, the humanity!  MY BRAIN HURTS!!!")

My band, The Play Trains, is playing Maxwell's in Hoboken, NJ Friday
night (1/5/01) around 10 PM EST.  (That's 0300 GMT the next morning, if
my math is right.)  While it would be just lovely if you could attend, I
don't expect you to be there.  However, please tune in to our live
WEBCAST at www.dcn.com.  You'll have to register there, and you'll need
Shockwave and RealPlayer 8.  Just go to dcn.com around showtime, and we
should be listed on the "Now Playing" page.  They archive shows, so you
may find other bands you like there too.  Not Belle and Sebbe though, I'm
afraid.  (Oooh -- CONTENT!  I'M OFF THE HOOK!!!)

We get absolutely no money from the webcast, but I'm sure the traffic
will benefit SOMEBODY economically.  If lining anonymous industry pockets
instead of those in artists' (losing the term usely) trousers makes you
feel guilty, please send me money.  (Sound effect:  a cross between
"ka-ching" and the sound of guilt evaporating.  Smiling voiceover:  Beats
confession any day!)

See all you muthas around the Net.  (I know -- not if you see me first!)

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From daftpunk at xxx.au  Wed Jan  3 07:59:13 2001
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:59:13 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: HAPPY NEW YEAR KIDS! (ooh and technical query:))
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010103153746.8551A-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

hey there sinisterinies
Hope everyone of y'all had a FANTABULOUS Crimbo and New Year.What did
everyone get up to?We had a quiet Christmas-my sister had gone back to
Malaysia for work experience in her engineering course and we didn't even
put up our Christmas tree. We had oyster omelette, glutinous rice and
tiger prawns-unconventional huh?:) 
For new year, had a pretty quiet one. had a pre-pre new year bash and
didn't do much on actual eve. on the 1st jan we had another feast of sushi
and oyster omelette and oriental roasted chicken-yum! Am saving up all my
erm party spirit for the end of this year when I will be in
London-yay!!!!:)               
On a more technical note, does anyone on this list know how to burn songs
from tape onto CD? I just got a CD burner and I am dying to transfer some
gigs I have on cassette onto CD, so I can listen to them again and
again without fear of the tape spoiling or what have you. I know this can
be done, I just have no idea how to go about doing it. Plus, I am
absolutely useless at technicalese, so if someone, anyone, could explain
it simply (as if to a child!) I would be eternally grateful!

Later pop kittens,                                               

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            Take a pill!"- Cordelia Chase



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From chrislampinen at xxx.com  Wed Jan  3 09:35:39 2001
From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (Christiaan!! !!)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 04:35:39 -0500
Subject: Sinister: apples and ORANGES
Message-ID: <F53YTWb292xgBh1U97X0000589e@hotmail.com>

>PS don't worry this won't happen again

Hello.

There are some things that shouldn't be posted to the list, like personal 
responses. So, let me do a personal response before I get started.

Lauren! You WILL post again because you are wonderful and lovely and snow 
deprived. OK? Deal? Good.

Now. Poor Chrissy has had no internet access for weeks. Why? Because the 
phone company is full of stupid, worthless fucks. We had static on our line. 
It took them about 10 minutes to fix. Well, after THREE WEEKS of waiting to 
start. And my oh my, the things I need to get off my chest.

I finished the semester at school in princessly fashion by missing my 
history final. How do you top that? By missing the make up, of course! Which 
I did. There's more school stuff but if you care enough to know I've already 
told you so I'll get off that.

People who are missing a gift from the exchange, I'm sorry, it's probably 
supposed to be from me. I couldn't get to my email for addresses so expect 
something totally ra(n)d(om) in the mail sooner or later. Probably later 
because I am dead broke at the moment, thanks to a wallet left in a friends 
car. Oops.

Do you all remember Laura Llew? Do you remember why we love her? I do.

I also remember why I (we) love Starry Sarah. She deserves your hearts and 
gifts, bastards. Give them up.

I want to hear about New Years Eve with the sinister folk. Who's snogging 
who? Did Phil find any ***** *** **** to ****? (Note: the blanks aren't 
intended to be as dirty as you can make them.)

I broke my long phone cord so i have to use my puter on the floor instead of 
in bed. And my bum hurts. Really bad. Oh, speaking of pain!

Today I went to school to use the computers, and instead I had a kidney 
stone disaster! So I had to drive home with kidney stone pain which wasn't 
easy. I had to recline my seat to minimize nut-kicked feeling, and that 
meant that I couldn't see out the windows very well. Death cab for 
Christiaan. I made it home OK and ended up in the bathroom doing nasty 
things.

I'm OK now. Oh, this happened earlier today. Watch as I don't structure my 
post at all.

I've been finding people in bands I like go to my school. Or, rather, I'm 
starting to like bands because members go to my school.

I want to be a groupie. It's not fair. When males want to be groupies they 
get attacked by security guards and accused of stalking. When females want 
to be groupies it's fine; they get sex with band members and that's that. 
How do I know this? Cross dressing.

Speaking of. I have a lovely picture of myself in a tiara (courtesy of miss 
MEE) which I tried to scan tonight...but my scanner was broken! Son of a 
turtle!

Hey, turtles. Like Tortoise, the band. I wonder if any members of Tortoise 
are on this list. HELLO, TORTOISE? ARE YOU OUT THERE? I WISH BAD THINGS UPON 
YOU BECAUSE YOUR MUSIC IS POO!

[auntsadie] tortoise is nothing but a petrified half-mouthful of horn-beat 
snake bait.

word.

[auntGHD] ?????????????
[auntGHD] 
TORTOISE�IS�NOTHING�BUT�A�CLAPPER-CLAWED���������������PETRIFICATION�OF�MILK-LIVERED����������BUG�SPIT.

Yeah, she knows whats up.

I put a B&S track on a mix I made my sister for Christmas. Two, actually. I 
can't remember what they were, though.

It was nice to come back to my mailbox to see that no one had emailed me. I 
love you all too.

Except, I mean it. Hmph.

xo

Love,
Majic Princess Christiaan

Greetz:
Ree-Face, Jewl-E, and P-Smoove bombin da scene in da U to da muddafuckin K
Llewrawk representin east coast
Hon-E and Star-E, bringin' up da princess trio of terror (or tulips, 
probably the latter)
Everyone on the list, past, present, and future: chin up, represent your 
roots.

posse out, yo*

*sorry molly

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From gpallis at xxx.uk  Wed Jan  3 10:08:17 2001
From: gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:08:17 -0000
Subject: Sinister: We have metal vision. We are the greatest lumberjacks the world has ever seen. Oh, we are whimsical and oh, we are cruel, but oh, oh, oh, to see us dance.
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010103153746.8551A-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
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Heya there, all you hip-hop boys and heavy-metal girls. It's me.

I'm listening right now to the B-Sides to Spaceman by Babylon Zoo, for I
think the first time. There are three of them, and they are, of course,
terrible. Except the bizzarre remix on the D-Side, entitled "Spaceman - The
Fifth Dimension", which is actually pretty good. When I stop listening to
Bowie-influenced flash in the pans, I'm going to listen to 'Since Yesterday'
by Strawberry Switchblade, because Tangents is back up, and I was browsing
some old articles to celebrate this fact, and Alastair said that was a
fantastic song. And it is. I really, really like Tangents, especially the
way they don't link to the shop in shop in any way from the main page, and
you have to click on gallery to even get to it. It's 9.48AM, and I haven't
gone to bed yet yesterday.

On other news, I have decided to run the...
    Sinister Adverb Of The Year, 2000 contest.
 A simple idea, but a necessary one. The way it works is this. First, you
pick an adverb you like. It can be real, like "creakily", which is my
personal fave, or made up, like "Sofia Coppola-ishly" or even
"Perfudgonishly". And then you e-mail it to me. If it's a made-up one, of
either sort, you can enclose a meaning too, or not, depending on how you
feel, the day of the week. The closing date is 18:00 GMT on Sunday, this
Sunday, so get those votes in. After 6PM on that Sunday, one of three things
will happen, depending on events.
Possibility One will occurs if no-one votes. The poll will disappear into
obscurity, and I will hang myself from a beech tree.
Possibility Two will occur if a handful of people vote. In this case I will
write another Sinister post, saying "thank you" to the people who entered. I
will also feel happy.
Possibility Three will only occur if more than ten people vote, which, lets
face it, isn't going to happen. Still, you never know, how cold my toes, are
growing, so I'm writing this anyway. In this case there will be winners.
There will even be prizes. Yes, real prizes. Sent by post. EU only,
unfortunately, but everyone everywhere should still submit their entries,
for the glory such a victory would bring unto their household.

Remember, all you have to do is send a one word e-mail. This does not take
time. I am a dog, head lolling to one side, begging you to vote.

On still other news, Steven Kado got all huffy just because I got him
confused with Sexy Cris 'Sexy is my middle name' Lampien, and then I felt a
bit a bit silly. But then he said "besides, cat power isn't that hot" which
completely invalidates his point, and brings shame unto his family with the
brash brashness of this brash errr brashosity. Thought the festive fifty was
pretty good (which links because Cat Power were in it, would be the reason
for this jump), bit shocked by some of the results, though. Who are these
people who think Polly Harvey made the single song this year? There are many
of them, and they are wrong. The Neko Case victory was a lovely surprise,
though, it's a great track. Me, I voted for Black Box Recorder, but I guess
they weren't Peel enough.

Please can someone solve this bloody puzzle
(http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/aali/puzzles/water/watermelon.htm) and e-mail
me the result? It's driving me mad. Thanks.

    Greg

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Wed Jan  3 12:54:29 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:54:29 -0000 
Subject: Sinister: I need a holiday...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775426@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

Happy New Year, folks. Only 355 days left until Christmas...

Well, happy happy joy joy, this year was my first ever White Christmas.
Just. A small patch of white in the garden when I got up, and a few brief
flurries during the afternoon. Still, we even got some proper snow a few
days later (complete with the usual stories on the news about how the South
was brought to a standstill by half an inch of snow, without mentioning that
up North life went on as usual despite their being feet of the stuff.
Southern wussies...)

And in something of a record, I managed 9 days at home with only 2 major
arguments with my parents.

A success all round then, really...

New Year was a bit shit though really, since the friend who was coming to
see me in Nottingham couldn't make it because of the weather, and it was too
late to sort out anything else to do, so I stayed at home and got drunk and
sulked. And just when I thought she might be the one to answer my prayers
and end my eternal singlehood...

So then, is everyone else enjoying their first day back at work as much as I
am?

Big Stu
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From david at xxx.uk  Wed Jan  3 20:06:58 2001
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:06:58 -0000
Subject: Sinister: 2001
Message-ID: <MABBIEGAGBDOGHPKCDMHCEIHCAAA.david@belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk>

Happy New Year,

So it's 2001 now and still no hover cars or people living on the moon, pah!

VOTES
There's still time to send your votes for best albums, songs, band and gigs
and album you regret buying etc from 2000. to me and my website as I try to
compile the B&S fans best things of the year 2000. Either send them direct
to me at david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk with the subject line 2000.
or alternatively visit my website www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk,
click on the link to the VOTES page then choose BEST OF 2000 and complete
the form. Please note for those using AOL or Compuserve, the vote form on
the site will not send the results to me so you'll need to send an email
with your results (that applies to those of you who have already sent
results from AOL or Compuserve already cos your results were lost into the
ether somewhere between your computer and mine!).

NEW CDS
I bought two new CDs over Christmas time, Magnetic Fields '69 Love Songs'
and Badly Drawn Boy's album. My feeling about both is that they are both too
long and that the good songs are kind of lost amongst the filler material.
But the good bits are really good although to be fair I haven't really had
the chance to properly listen to them all. 87 songs are a hell of a lot to
listen to all at once!

Anyway send the votes (please!!!) ASAP...

Dave
david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Thu Jan  4 16:58:06 2001
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:58:06 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Husker Du Du Du, Captain Beefheart, ELO
Message-ID: <3A54AB9E.1EB412D4@ruskin.ac.uk>

Dahn! Dahn! Dahn! DA! DA!

Bumbum bumbum bumbum bumbum

Well I don't know about you, but I feel like a large black obelisk.

(really this is just an excuse to see how many times I can get the word
"bum" into one post)

So, back to work, hurrah, kinda.

I had quite a quiet xmas and then a very sini-full new year.  On New
years eve eve after an horrendous 8 hour coach journey (and it's the
last time i'm doing that, i can tell you, it's back to the trains for
me, at least you can smoke and bouze on them) i met up with (deep
breath) ree joolie phil martin rich trousers hopkins ken paul elena and
carey for a couple(ish) of pints and we talked to honeyboobles on the
phone too.

Then on new years eve, the above peeps were joined by mrs carsmile sez
pam mike the pinefox dave sally geoff lixi erica (and some other ppl who
aren't/haven't been on the list, yes apparently they do exist) and by
starry and velocity in spirit, and as ken and phil have previously
mentioned a jolly good time was had by all, dancing, singing, drinking
etc.  I was walking around with a really stoopid grin on my face, as it
was possibly the most fun i've ever had on NYE (and not just the bouze),
which is usually anti-climactic and/or far far too pissed, and it yet
again confirmed my belief that this list is super special lovely and I
kind of don't know where i'd be without it (sorry, is this too gushy? oh
well, what the hell, i love you all darlings).

I've scanned in my new york photos and they are at
http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve as per usual.

OK going now, i hope 2001 brings each one of you everything you want

xoxo
CarsmileSteve

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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Thu Jan  4 18:39:48 2001
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:39:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  It's a jolly holiday with you, dear
Message-ID: <20010104183948.1699.qmail@web1611.mail.yahoo.com>

Big Stu wrote

Still, we even got some proper snow a few
> days later (complete with the usual stories on the news about how the
> South
> was brought to a standstill by half an inch of snow, without mentioning
> that
> up North life went on as usual despite their being feet of the stuff.
> Southern wussies...)

Grrrr!  GRRRRRRR!  GGGRRRRAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!  Wussies?  My lovely
London cabbie got me to Stansted on time, in spite of closed motorways,
crashes and general skiddiness on the roads, but the fecking Scots
couldn't manage to send a plane for me to get on for a whole ten hours! 
TEN HOURS!  Southern wussies indeed?  I read the paper, I finished my
book, I beat my top score on Nokia Snake, I ate chocolate, I hovered
around the internet cafe waiting for an end to their service outage so I
could go in chat (it remained closed all day) and I got very, very, very,
very bored, I ate more chocolate.  Hrumph.

I made it up there in the end though, so here are the obligatory hellos to
fecking Scots and others:  Neil and Ailsa (thank you for staying in the
pub with until I arrived), Mark and Vicky (thank you for not snowballing
me) and Crazy Calumn.  Also Gav 'n' Jo, who might see this Yoko the cat
who won't.  Unfortunately, I seem to have returned to London on the day
that Carey, Ree, Martin, Julie and Phil went to Scotland but maybe I'll
see some of you when you come back.

Snow does lovely things, doesn't it?  As the sun began to set on Friday,
we were climbing up to the top of the Necropolis and looking out across
Glasgow.  Yellow light glimmered on the faces of the tombstones and the
snow grew rosy.  I took far too many photographs.  We saw far too many
other people taking photographs.  I did not fall on my arse on the way
back down.  

Of course, by New Year's Eve, a thick, brown sludge had replaced the
powdery whiteness and sharp edges emerged from soft contours, as always
happens in the end.  It rained and I got wet and started sneezing
uncontrollably (I'm still at it four days later), but it didn't matter
because we ate Jelly Bellies and recreated Baxendale songs and made the
floor shake when we danced and sang along with the Proclaimers on telly
and text messaged and painted the boys' nails and and stayed up all night.
 I think I might have said that I'll do karaoke next time I go to Glasgow.
 Oh dear.  The next day was spent in bed, watching Mary Poppins and
polishing off a box of Celebrations, which is about the best possible way
you could spend New Year's Day, don't you think?

Oh dear, I really don't like coming back to work in January.

Juicy Lucy


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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Thu Jan  4 22:17:10 2001
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:17:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: London under the snow and me drunk under the pub table
Message-ID: <383643915.978646630094.JavaMail.root@web628-mc>

Hello friends,

And happy happy happy new year to you all. I mean it.

The star of my 2001 was great thank you. I was up to cold London (it was
snowing! I swear!) but as soon as I arrived I got to the pooob to get drunk
so I was not cold, really. Plus I had hugs and all so I was all warm inside!
I met lots of American listees (well at least three), that was nice...I hope
to be able to scan some pics soon so you can all see how drunk we looked.

The New Year's Eve party was great, thanks to Mr Trousers and his flatmates
who were lovely hosts...I won't be bothered about mentioning everybody who
was there cos Carsmile just did, ha!Sorry to everyone I've been hugging all
night because I was drunk, I hope you were not scared :) It was looots of
fun though. Except for the morning after where my head seemed to weight
around 10 kilos (no I don't know how much is that in English pounds) but
well...

I spent lots of time in the pubs during those four days, explaining to
English people how to prepare snails and why red shoes are better than black
shoes. Oh well that is the funny bit about the cultural gap I guess :)

On anoter note, Santa has been good to me, but well I have been good all
year so it's only fair enough really :) And I had lots of chocolate too.

I hope you all had fun and pressies and hugs. That is all the good things
about Christmas time. I also hope that your year started alright and that
you don't have lots of stupid exams like me. That is the price for being a
student, probably.

Happy New Year once more!
Elena


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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Fri Jan  5 00:26:02 2001
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:26:02 EST
Subject: Sinister: It is his love, it is his passion....it is his fault he didn't lock the garage
Message-ID: <8a.ad0f75.27866e9a@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Well, I have a really good hogmanay and things. I gave up my room for the 
lovely Ian Hatcher (and I don't do that for just anyone) for four days, so we 
could go to the 13th Note on new years eve, and get so unbelievably baned 
I've still got a hangover. Well, not really, but you know what I mean. 

I remember the vodka and oranges, and them playing Jesus Christ Superstar 
music, and writing all kinds of rubbish on the walls of the toilets, and 
going up to the bar and talking to people I don't know and yelling really 
loudly that I couldn't believe they were serving me cause I'm only 15, and 
then the bar staff looking at me, then serving my anyway. I remember hugging 
these hard kids from my school, who were too drunk and surprised to beat me 
up, and I remember crying on the bus home. It was a grate start to the new 
year.

Oh, and Ian and I had a lightsaber battle of an epic scale in George Square 
on new years day, which I won (spectacularly). It was pretty short though. I 
broke my lightsaber five minutes into the fight, and The Blonde said she 
wasn't surprised, cause she's seen me fencing, and apparantly I'm really 
agressive. But not on purpose.

I would also say to anyone, go the the carnival at the SECC, cause it's ace. 
And you can win a shiny new majorettes baton, and drive little kids insane. 
Bluddy grate.

I have also aquired (thanks to the darling Johnjohn) a very nice Mopatop toy 
from the kids tv programme Mopatop's Shop. He says three different things, 
and he's grate to set off in the really quiet section of bookshops. 

Also, if you ever ride moving stairs sitting down, then make sure you get up 
before it levelts out at the bottom, or you will die. Or get a sore bottom.

My mother hates my boyfriend. She says he's a Satanist. He's not, really. He 
just looks like one. I quite like him, now I'm done being afraid of him. I 
don't think he'll be cruel to me or dump me just yet. I give him at best 
three weeks before he gets sick of me. Any longer than that, and I'll have to 
wake up, or get him seen to by a head doctor.

Have you ever seen Dark Crystal? It's the one with all the puppets, and the 
hero in it is called Jen, like me, only he's a boy. It's a really good film, 
I watched it for the first time in ages yesterday. Jen's girlfriend, Kiera, 
or something, has this little pet fluffy thing. And, although it's a really 
good film anyway, the only part I really enjoyed was the litlle fluffy brown 
thing, called Fizgig. 

It was so obvious that they'd ran out of budget when they got to making it, 
because it's really odd looking, but it's the best thing ever. I go into fits 
of giggles every time I see it run about and do stuff in the film. I would 
buy the video just to see the  wee brown fluffy thing called Fizgig open it's 
mouth and make it's wee noises, and then jump around and annoy people, and be 
cute and bouncy and try to be aggressive, but just be odd and funny.

I have had the Fishyclap music book for a whole week now. But I always feel 
kind of bad about playing B&S songs, or any band's songs really (unless 
they're a rally rubbish band with only one or two good songs), because if I 
don't do the songs as good as they've been recorded which I never will, then 
I get all embarassed, because I'm making a mess of them. And then, if you can 
play them and sing them exactly right, then it's silly, because that's what 
they're there to do. But I still have fun playing them, and singing them, as 
long as not very many people can hear me.

I'll shut up now, and stop annoying you,

Hugs,
Jen


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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Fri Jan  5 01:21:00 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:21:00 EST
Subject: Sinister: the long and short version tied into one.
Message-ID: <b1.5522b65.27867b7c@aol.com>

And so here it is, another rant. 

Well, I walk in and its as cold as a cube outside, so naturally everyone 
comments. I agree with a nodding half smile...and immediately put on my 
disinterested face. You know the one where you try like mad to look like you 
don't even realize that other people are in the room with you? You are 
sandwiched between things that touch your soul (or whatever on you gets 
touched) more than anything...and yet you struggle with pretentious looks and 
perfecting them. It's a business, to be sure. Buying records is a serious 
business and no cute counter boy looking at me, disinterestingly, looking at 
him disinterested is going to come between that. No matter how clever his 
remark on the weather.

And so it begins. I can't even be sure what it was I was looking for...and I 
usually don't even know until I am out the door what I got. I start with the 
cheap stuff...the used, abused, and scratched CDs...the ones that go for 
under 10. I never have any luck there, but it doesn't deter my efforts. I 
head for my eye squinting thumb walk through A to Z.  In this trip, however, 
I was just getting past Aerosmith (not really this shop doesn't carry that 
sort of shite.) and heading for Air Supply when I stumbled across Air Miami. 
I hadn't really heard it, but per my tape trading with the New Yorker...I 
knew they were good. and plus I knew that they were former members of Unrest. 
You are so seemingly fond of them...so Air Miami couldn't be all bad. I 
pulled it out and sat it to the side.

And on to the B's. In the B's there were the usual CDs...Bjork, Beastie 
Boys...all the ones that support my theory and argument that only ever comes 
up when I am drunk. Oddly enough that's the only time that it's persuading to 
anyone. I always know what I am trying to say...it's just getting the words 
to support it correctly. Anyway, I would go on about my theory of outgrowing 
music, etc., but I haven't had a drop to drink this evening, so I am going to 
skip this entirely.

So, I am in the B's...and there is Black Heart Procession for a more than 
reasonable rate. I take it out and sit it to the side with the Air Miami. I 
continue on and on...and reach the Y's, where I find Yo La Tengo no less "and 
then nothing turned itself inside out" I mean short of Yanni...what else 
would I find in the Y's?  So now it is atop Air Miami and Yo La Tengo. I 
wonder briefly about the fool who sold it or traded it or whatever. and I 
worry that I will run into him at some cozy little bar one night. He will 
come on to me...I will be flattered...we will go to his place and there will 
be no Yo La Tengo...I will be forced to confirm him the idiot that sold such 
a great piece of music. Doesn't he know that CD is special to me? I will be 
forced to dump him before we ever get started...the bastard! Now I can't stop 
thinking about who this person is and how I can avoid him...wasn't so brief 
afterall, eh?

So I made it through the "used" and figured I had done enough damage to my 
wallet for one evening.

I did see a GBV box set...thought about you. A good enough excuse since the 
only photo I have of you is in one of their shirts...and you like them so 
well. However, I didn't think you deserved it...or was it that I didn't 
deserve to give it to you? Anyway, I didn't even inquire, but I bet that you 
would have found it very cool. I talked about blocking the parking lot for a 
free concert for the fans of music with Chad, counter boy extraordinaire. He 
is different from the disinterested one. He is the owner, and full of 
ulterior motives. Anyway, we talked about how great that would be...and it 
would be great. We talked about me opening a little coffee shop next door and 
then a mutual friend of ours that has seemingly fallen off the face of the 
earth.

I glanced around for that blasted silly trojan horse box set that you joked 
about last time we were there together. I thought it would be good for a 
memory...maybe even a smile, but it was gone. I fear that the same boy that 
sold the Yo La Tengo used his profits to purchase that box set. I have got to 
stay away from that nut. I would have asked Chad about it, but I feared even 
more that it would confirm his notions that I was in fact the nut...I don't 
need that.

The other counter boy stayed ever so true to his look of disinterest. 
Frankly, I had genuinely grown disinterested in him and his phony looks, so 
it was nothing to me by then. I explained some things to Chad. He smokes a 
lot of weed, but I think he got it. I want to put in a couple of days a month 
on trade for music with him. We talked about this great lounge that I 
discovered on Saturday. Apparently I was the only one...but I don't get out 
much, so thats my excuse. Anyway, I only thought of you about 86 times on my 
trip to the record store...I really feel like I am making progress.-A
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Fri Jan  5 03:11:43 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:11:43 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Red Bull, that's cool
Message-ID: <200101050306.DAA24071@missprint.org>

Hello,

The song "All my little words" by the Magnetic Fields is the best, such 
a beautiful song.. 

AND, have *you* noticed?  It is written about RED BULL!  Listen to this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lyrics:
>> You are a splendid butterfly
>> It is your wings that make you beautiful
>> and I could make you fly away
>> but I could never make you stay

Blue and silver like a butterfly
Gives you wings that are beautiful
You can easily "fly away"
but try drink some and keep still!

>> You said you were in love with me
>> Both of us know that that's impossible
>> and I could make you rule the day
>> but I could never make you stay

another verse about redbull-holics' seemingly 
impossible love for red bull

>> Not for all the tea in China
>> not if I could sing like a bird
>> not to all North Carolina
>> not for all my little words

The stimulation effects from Tea in China is, of course, 
NO CONTEST against that of Red Bull, 
and it's not for sale in some parts of North Carolina, 
not even if you sing or try and chat up the store keeper.

>> not if I could write for you
>> the sweetest song you ever heard
>> It doesn't matter what I do
>> not for all my little words

ditto.

>> Now that you've made me want to die
>> you tell me that you're unboyfriendable

Now you've overdosed on Red Bull, you're told that in 
this jittery state, you're unlikely to pull.

>> and I could make you pay and pay
>> but I could never make you stay

If you have ever bought Red Bull with your own money before 
you'll know how it makes you pay and pay.  And once again 
after you drink it you staying still is out of the question.

----------------------------------------------------------------
:)  There we are, even the Magnetic Fields love Red Bull, so why 
shouldn't you?

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh I have so much work to do, it's insane, maybe it's 
because I spend all day listen for the hidden meanings of Magnetic 
Fields songs rather than working...

I very much agree with Princess Christiaan that Lauranges should carry 
on posting to sinister, and other people should start posting soon 
too, especially if maybe you are a young lady in London who likes to 
mosh to B&S :)

or Terrovision fans...

Butterflies and Red Bulls
Ken
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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Fri Jan  5 05:30:16 2001
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:30:16 -0000
Subject: Sinister: continuum
Message-ID: <F89EnimtH4ismFuTK1U0000aadd@hotmail.com>

judging from the gay and bright posts, new year was had
as some big ball dropping ritual complete with booze and woos
and women...for me it was memphis women and fried chicken...or memphis 
chicken and fried women...either way finger-licking...
the literary cowboys didn't drink their champagne
but kept promises to a vivacious twenty year old who wanted new years 
smooches and was prepared to go to vicious lengths to attain them...
barr-ed it on that drunken night...worked and did my cock-tail thing, but 
unfortunately got none of either...cock-or-tail, that is...
but jessica-kat got a cock and tailing job with me  so she
struted cowboy belt and boot around too...fair trade i had someone to kiss 
at midnight when we set down our trays and toasted the new year in
with djs shy-boy billy and gator and shannon the theater-folk
bartending fool and amoungst other classic bar characters...
all in all, or none in it at all, the ringing in was successful and
rewarding...
rewarding b/c i managed to get the djs to play magnetic fields
"heart runnin round like a chicken with its head cut off" to which jessica 
and i bounced about as the country-drunk-on-23s-of-lager-bumpkins
threw puzzled-23-of-lager glances...somehow i suspect only a coniving
red mouthed dynamic like myself could achieve magnetic fields in a counrty 
western bar...the djs ate it up, but its a beat to slow for a good solid 
thunderfoot so they want to change it and make it shy-boy billy's theme 
song..."the djs runnin round like a chicken with his head cut off..." and 
they want to make the "whoa nelly" part into "shy-boy billy"...
i've created a monster...
ideal and all
-(selfappointed)listdomlisa
                                                     hi...?

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Fri Jan  5 13:02:41 2001
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:02:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: FaR AwAy aNd LoSt iN JoY...
Message-ID: <20010105130241.17399.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com>

HaPpY NeW YeaR everyone!!

Well brothers and sisters, life is cruel, innit?
yet another new year... time flies whether you're
having fun or not... 
I was supposed to be in London for New Year's but due
to some unbeatable forces I had to stay here and spent
hols at my parents' house... I've said that before,
but have you noticed that the older you grow the more
depressing it gets spending x-mas hols at your
parents'? 
So, I stayed in the house for as long as holidays
lasted, watching silly films with my sister, eating
crisps and chocolates and all sorts of fattening
stuff, smoking a lot and feeling so bored, except from
the times when I was talking with our HoNeYBooBLeS on
the phone, gossiping about boys and swooning over
prada outfits!! 
at the end, I even suffered from insomnia cause of all
this unbelievable boredom! and I had no internet
access!! now, If you can imagine that!!
I hate x-mas with 'the force of a thousand suns' like
Brian (AKA hobnob) would say... I do!! And these xmas
haven't changed the way I feel about them...
Stephen-Carsmile-Lad mentioned the New Year's Eve
Party at the TRoUseRs' ViLLa!! Starry and myself
weren't there just in spirit but in voice too since we
both called after midnight... I still feel dizzy after
that! I talked I don't know with how many people,
around 15 I guess!!Elena99 was accused afterwards of
having stolen the phone and hiden behind an armchair!
mmm that's why I talked with her longer than with
anyone else... 
The atmosphere was gay and  overflown with joy and
alcohol and nice tunes that I could hear from the
other end of my telephone wire and got me all green
with jealousy!! everyone was going on the spree
laughing and dancing around... 
News: Mr Popkins and Sezah were lying sick in their
rooms, poor darlings whilst the heartless lot outside
their bedrooms had the time of their lives...
Le Pinefox played a solo session and we heard such
great comments about that... we were also informed
that PF headed to the land of lumberjacks!!! I'm
really worried about his safety!! You never know where
these slumberjacks- and not their timbers - can land!!
watch out PF!! We want you back safe and sound!
CaptainMarvo the Mighty got penguins and penguin
accesoires for pressies and was all happy and
cheerful!
New York listees such as Sparkling Ree and Cyberglam
Julie and Exotic-and-Citizen-of-the-World-now-Phil
were there too! But I managed to talk only with Ree on
the phone who was - as we were informed lately - the
only sober person in the whole assembly!!
Other news... we've been in the tweekitten site to
discover that the ViSiToRs' CD titled "miss" has its
rightful place in the Top 100 Sellers of 2000 and so
does the Black Tambourine Complete Recordings CD which
is by now out of stock!!
Chrss L. 'the jam-tart' (= sweetheart in cockney, so
that we'll avoid any misunderstandings) mentioned
groupies... a little research on the subject gave us
this URL which includes lots of spicy gossip and other
stuff, also instructions of how to become an
aknowledged groupie... Chrss try it:
http://www.jsolar.com/groupies/groupies.html
KenKenJugglingPrince and myself agreed that the
coolest sinister picnic is yet to come... we think
it's going to be in April in London... that's where
I'm going to be at the time...
If I survived scooter accidents till then... have you
ever ride on a scooter with your earphones on? it's
great... I can't ride without music... but you
actually ride faster especially when you're listening
to songs you really like... so this morning heading to
work, I couldn't but sing out loud along to Moz's
"YoU'Re The OnE FoR Me FaTtY" to the astonishment of
passing by vehicle drivers...
You should all support Chris Wu's( AKA: pooOOooo)Label
called GiFteD ReCorDs which has just released item 001
a plit 7" Even As We Speak/In A Day in collaboration
with our very own's Brian P. (AKA McMcMc) Sandcastle
Records!! Buy it!! it's absolutely fab! we were also
informed that the Gifted Records second release, item
002, will be a split 7" again of The Pines/Simpatico
due Feb/March... Simpatico is an aussie band, the
bloke from Sweet William... and they'll be covering a
Black Tambourine (if I'm right) song where as The
Pines will be covering a Sweet William song...
for more information go to:
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~tbc/giftedRecords/index.html
We also know that HoneyBoobles the little princess of
the West has guests at the HoneyHouse... Her and Linda
are visited by Ree, Carey, Marvo and Julie!! 
Have fun you!!
You should all go to David's site
www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk and do this
survey thingy!! tis fun!!
The pressies exchange thing went very well, thanks to
JoanOfDark, greeks have bright ideas, mind you... To
those to who I owe their pressies... sorry for the
delay they're going to be there very soon... and
they're going to be just great...
To those who sent me my pressies, please do e-mail me
cause I don't have your e-addies... 
talking about pressies and mail, two parcels were
stolen from my mailbox whilst I was away for xmas
hols... I don't know what they were and that makes it
even more frustrating... I still can't believe it that
someone stole my parcels on x-mas!! tis a disgrace!!
And with that I'll leave you all for now... thanks for
baring with me, those of you who did...
take care,
hugs 
      VeL xxx


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From wilska at xxx.net  Fri Jan  5 19:42:43 2001
From: wilska at xxx.net (Emily Wilska)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:42:43 -0800 
Subject: Sinister: little man, what now?
Message-ID: <37C3476607141849A65191FB44C1D5730FE1B7@svc-msg-03.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com>

O from the depths of lurkdom I come.

First to say this: I forget, always, the feeling of my nostrils freezing
until I return to New England in December and breathe when I'm outside.
Not something I miss, I must say, although the snow was a nice touch for
the holiday season.  Pleased as punch I am, though, to be back in San
Francisco, where January means you can sit outside while eating your
lunch, and the sun will land warm on your cheeks, and the green gold
around you will obliterate any memory of the wind in Boston that was so
cold it made you cry.

I cannot shut up already about the weather, although it's been nearly
all I've been chattering on about since I returned.  Moving on.

Next to say this: while home for the holly-days, I dug out my high
school-era mix tapes and had a bit of a listen.  Amazing, sort of, how
you manage to remember all the words to songs you've not heard in years.
Or perhaps that's just the way *my* mind works, clinging like mad to
relatively useless info like song lyrics while maintaining obstinately
that it hasn't a bit of space for things like grammar rules or the names
of world leaders.  All relative, I suppose.

Anyway, I'll end this blathering soon, but not before this: because I
really liked it, and because it was the source of what became one of my
favorite poems (Richard Hugo's Degrees of Grey in Philipsburg), and just
because I wanna, I shall hereby attempt to revive the tradition of the
Poetry Parrot.  Come now, comrades!  Let us welcome our winged friend
back into our midst!  Let us learn what he has to teach us!  Let us not
keep him locked up in the closest, accompanied only by old stuffed
animals who are missing various eyes and ears!

Right, then.

Here he is now:

Sonnet 20

Mindful of you the sodden earth in spring,
And all the flowers that in the springtime grow,
And dusty roads, and thistles, and the slow
Rising of the round moon, all throats that sing
The summer through, and each departing wing,
And all the nests that the bared branches show,
And all winds that in any weather blow,
And all the storms that the four seasons bring.

You go no more on your exultant feet
Up paths that only mist and morning knew,
Or watch the wind, or listen to the beat
Of a bird's wings too high in air to view,--
But you were something more than young and sweet
And fair,--and the long year remembers you.

--Enda St. Vincent Millay

I send him on his way to Laura Llew, given her lliterary lleanings.  

Incidentally, should my attempted revival fail, I shall follow Greg's
lead and hang myself from a tree (although probably oak rather than
beech).  Either that or I'll sit and sulk for a while and then get on
with it.

But I've taken up more than enough of your time, no?  So I shall be on
my way.

2001 loves you all,
Emily
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From Histrianic at xxx.com  Fri Jan  5 20:18:01 2001
From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:18:01 EST
Subject: Sinister: Meow, Meow, Meow, I want chicken, I want liver...
Message-ID: <9e.e615aeb.278785f9@aol.com>

My director looks like a mouse.  Whenever I run into her, I think that.  
Recently, my aquaintance has told me that she has an overwhelming desire to 
sing that song to my mousy director whenever she runs into her.  I thought 
that was interesting.

I should be doing my math work right now.  Except that I have no desire to do 
so.  I have an overwhelming craving for something good, not to eat, maybe, 
but just for something.  I think this syndrome is called "dissatisfaction".  

I have many complaints.  I have so many complaints about my life that I 
cannot even remember them all.  However, tomorrow is Saturday, and I get to 
have rehearsal for my own play that I am directing.  I have two more classes 
today, English and Chinese.  Those two classes are fun.  I love English, and 
my Chinese teacher is absolutely adorable.  I have a Hemingway freak as my 
English teacher, but he sounds like a very interesting guy.  Here is a 
conversation he carried with my friend:

Emily (my friend) is walking down the hall with a copy of The Old Man and The 
Sea, by Mr. Ernest Hemingway himself.
Mr. Ott (my English teacher) walks up to her.

Mr. Ott: Is that *gasp* "The Old Man and The Sea"?
Emily: (baffled)  Yeah.  Don't you already have like ten copies?
Mr. Ott:  Yes, but I don't have one with THAT cover!

Mr. Ott proceeds to try buying the book from Emily.  She refuses.

Yes, he's a Hemingway freak...

I will go attend to my math homework now.  Mr. Wolf, my math teacher with an 
English accent, taught us the basics of calculus today.  We were talking 
about cones and pyramids, and we somehow drifted off to that.  Mr. Wolf is 
very funny, though, with a dry sense of humor that I so willingly enjoy.  
Kaufman had a dry sense of humor.  I like Kaufman.  He's cool.

Belle and Sebastian is an interesting band.  I have had "If You're Feeling 
Sinister" stuck in my head for three weeks now.  Heh.

I shall go now.  Ta ta for now.

Lots of love and a clock ticking away pointing at 3:18 PM,
Me....
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From porterww at xxx.edu  Fri Jan  5 22:26:52 2001
From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:26:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Sinister: Influenza: a dirge for accordion and vinegar
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101051528040.29342-100000@fiat.gslis.utexas.edu>

Alright, it's like this, see:
Lisa (I think it was one of them anyway) said something ages ago and I'm
only just now getting around to having something to say about it.  It was
something about boys and hangovers and how the former should come with
their own distinct brand of giddiness and intensity and all that, the
inevitable pasing of which leaves one gasping and throbbing--perhaps even
a little swollen--in the throes of the latter.
Either one of the Lisas said it or someone else said it or I made it up
entirely, but that's what I'm talking about (I'd look it up, but you'd be
amazed by the sheer volume of results one gets when searching the
archives for "boys" and/or "hangover".  It's a wonder anything else gets
discussed around here).
Now then:
It's an interesting notion in a series of steps:
1. a furious passion that sits in your belly and wakes you at intervals
and won't let you not feel a little like you're going to explode.
2. a briefly soaring satisfaction (no, satisfaction is too commonplace...
maybe rapture)
3. an extended black-eyed aching

This peaks-and-valleys business is not lost on me; it is my opinion that
contrast and loss are responsible for (respectively) vividness and
posession in a kind of Wallace Stevensy sort of way.  But I'm losing my
tolerance for hurting, and I've never packed much punch, myself, as far as
inducing the wingless flight that I'm (quite uneffectively) talking
about.  Being a boy, I mean.  And not being particularly propulsive as far
as lofty metaphorical heights go.  Which is why I started talking about
this in the first place.

I guess I really haven't got a point about that.

Things have changed since last time I wrote.  I live in New York now.  I'm
an actual librarian instead of an aspiring one.  I am glad to be out of
Texas.  I am not so glad to have left Oregon again, though that is not to
say I am unhappy in New York.

I was listening to _Memories of Love_ last night, and I had forgotten that
"The You You Never Knew" even existed and it surprised me in a very
pleasant sort of way.

As for belle and sebastian, it has been only about 18 months since I first
heard them (about 17 and a half months since I owned everything they'd
ever put out), but I don't think I've ever managed to not be surprised by
them on a single listening since, as I found out again (I discover it
every time) just the other day.

Sweet dreams,

Will Porter






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From zanne at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 04:11:27 2001
From: zanne at xxx.com (some random girl)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:11:27 -0700
Subject: Sinister: from out of the shadow shines glory and from out of that glory shines defete
References: <b1.5522b65.27867b7c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001401c07796$bdc9e9a0$abd86c18@powersurfr.com>

from out of the shadow i step to face all those before . . people i have
gotten to know, but do not know me.  is it some kind of perverse voyeurism
we lurker hold that able us to observe for so long without saying a word.  i
am not sure, maybe that or shyness, the fear of rejection, all these enter
into my mind as i unveil myself before you.  as i wonder what your re action
will be?

my days of shadow were driven from me by the insessant curiousity as to what
happens once you make that great big step out into the open, and make
yourself known.  i wonder how fast you will delete me from you screen.  for
once i do not have to control to do just that very thing.  cause to be
honest i do, all the posts the seem like they don't have any worth go down
the tube, good bye, see ya never, soon to be forgotten.  maybe that is
another great appel to lurking, in sense you have the god like ability to
tell who is important, what needs to be heard and what is pure shite.  so
here i sit opening myself to the delete button, wondering why you haven't
even pressed it now.

and my need for acceptance goes, and hope no one is too angry by my post.
but it does have some B&S content if you will just bare with me.  figure it
out, cause no one can tell you the sins of your heart.  and now you are left
to consider what is left.  do so and leave.

'Their conversation had been good.  Too good.  But it was time for her to
leave.
         "You're losing me ya know."  Her only reponse was his continued
silence.
         "It's not from lack of me trying."  She looked to him for a
response and only got his dodging eyes.  She got up to leave and mummbled
softly to him as she circled the couch.
         ". . .and it all makes me wonder why I even bothered."  She wonders
if he will understand but deep down in her heart she knows he had forgotten,
forgotten like everything else that was special between them.  Taking a deep
breath, hugging herself tightly, she turns her back and walks out.  All that
was left was to go home sleep and listen to 'belle and sebastian'.'

Once so many things, now, nothing more than anyone else,
        so many names, yet none seem to fit at all,
                        just call me girl . . .and I think we will be even.

-before i can survive you, i must first survive myself-
                    -marynard-

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From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:41:13 2001
From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Mikey)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:41:13 -0000
Subject: Sinister: National Be Nice To Jules Week
In-Reply-To: <200101051257.MAA10309@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <1D3892756F@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk>

Hullo,

	I have a plea chaps:	

	No doubt many of you know and remember Jules Markham, 
who until recently was a treasured sinistereen and who is the best 
most perfect girlfriend I could ever have hoped for.

	Well on New Years Day her flatmates psycho boyfriend tried to 
attack both her and I, so we packed the car and scarpered. As a 
result, Jules is currently homeless, living on a sofa in Sheffield. 
She can't stay with me too much because I, for now, live in a 
university flat.

	So part one of the plea is to send messages of love, support 
and general happy vibes to littleblackfox at hotmail.com. This is 
important I know because I've spend most of today comforting her, 
as she's quite upset.

	Part two of the plea is that if any Sheffield sinistereens are 
looking for a flatmate, or know someone who is, then please please 
email either me or her, she's quite desperate and she can't find a 
place anywhere. She's still looking for work but I have loads of 
student loan left so the rent would be paid and everything. Also, 
she's incredibly lovely and is the best cook ever. If anyone can help 
I will become your bestest friend and Jules will give you a big warm 
hug.

	I don't think this counts as list abuse, since it's a sinisterette in 
crisis, but in case it is: Sorry.

All my love,
Mikey
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From sunnie_set at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 11:42:58 2001
From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 11:42:58 -0000
Subject: Sinister: a mile and half on a train takes a long time
Message-ID: <F653G5aYY61LEdyt3ce00011507@hotmail.com>

So, I'm sitting on a train packed full of people "rallying round". Snow sits 
on the ground and the train being the sensitive type is feeling unwell and 
does not wish to move just now.

This is the third time it has stopped. Lancaster station at 7.00 in the 
evening is not particulary intersting place to be. Especially not for two 
hours.

People are generally bemused, offering round squashed sandwichs, cans of 
warm beer and taking advantage of the complimentary tea and coffee.
I am fiddling with my walkman. It doesn't work. I study my collection of 
carefully recorded B&S albums and EPs mournfully. Sequentially trying to 
remeber the words and tune in my head. It passes the time.

Opposite me sit an oldish couple, surrounded by bags and coats, who tell me 
about their previous journey to their daughters. "the train was on time all 
the way..." They proceed to list each station along the route correcting one 
another until they return to doing the crossword puzzle.

Next to me sits a girl with a nut allergy. She has a walkman on. It seems to 
be working.

My bag rings, or rather my mobile rings, I hadn't realised it was switched 
on.  My bag is  lodged between other cases above my head. I am stuck in the 
inside seat sandwiched between old couples and girls with nut allergies. 
Other people don't know who the phone belongs to so I let i ring.

I look around the carriage for the owner of the annoying phone. but I think 
the redness in my cheeks could be enough to convict me. The commuter type 
man behind me complains loudly about the phone. I am thankful to him becuase 
people now look knowingly towards him and my red cheeks remain unnoticed.

By some miracle the train moves forward once more. People cheer reservedly. 
My walkman still refuses to work...

Ok that was my first post and stuff...




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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 15:16:25 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:16:25 EST
Subject: Sinister: the last thing you need first thing in the morning, rant number 3
Message-ID: <96.e5f6af2.278890c9@aol.com>

I think that I am so vehemently against religion because it was forced on me 
as a child. I rarely have anything to do with anything that goes along with 
it, nor do I anticipate any change. I have vowed never to get married, though 
secretly I find it terribly romantic. It's an outdated institution, and I 
don't especially want to seek out the courts approval should I ever want to 
separate.

I hate it for all the expectations and hesitations. However, I hate myself 
more for not being able to accept things at face value. To laugh sensitively, 
to genuinely not know anything different. To be so clear headed. Ah! what a 
life that must be.

The irony of asking to become that way after truly knowing better. Frankly, 
who would I ask?

And anyway Jesus. Why won't you be more fucking adamant, if you know 
something that I don't? Is it fair that you're so vague and indecisive all 
the time? Frankly, be glad you came when/if you did. Today wouldn't have been 
nearly as successful for you. Though I might have listened. It could have 
been me and you, Jesus. Me and you. Walking around, kings of the town. Eye 
people doing wrong and swiftly point uttering "god damn it" sure people would 
have thought we had tourettes syndrome or something...but whatever. We would 
have made a fine couple. A fine couple indeed. It would be you, the vicar, 
and me, the hypocrite. You the innocence, and me the fact. The finest display 
of "good cop...bad cop" the world has ever seen. There has always been a thin 
line between the two, you know. And you were probably into painting lines as 
a child even. How good are you at erasing them? 

Anyway, this is too much to continue on with.

I wondered about some of the posts that I have been reading lately. Some very 
good (you know who you are) some not so good (you don't.) but always the fear 
that you're offending someone or bothering someone...or too shy to do 
anything but lurk. I don't especially understand that. The wonderful thing 
about this is that it doesn't matter. We all have a simpatico (the list 
itself, music, movies) so where is the fear? We are virtually friends...and 
even more importantly no one knows who you are, unless, of course, you have 
told them, but chances are they liked you, eh?

Maybe my biggest problem is that I don't consider other peoples opinions 
hardly ever. I just say anything...and I don't care what any of you think 
about me. It could hardly be worse than things that have crossed my very own 
mind at one time or another. "I became accustomed to a kind of social 
servitude that no one, I mean, no one could accept what I have become" or 
whatever. "Sorry doesn't seem to wash when there's truths around that I have 
quashed and no one, I mean no one, can depress me more than I can." 

I would like to sign a waiver now...if you would all allow me to, that is. I 
am loaded on cough syrup..I am sick today. I am dillusional. but I can only 
hope to regret anything that I have written...at least I would know (and so 
would you) that I cared. I truly want to. I want to be one of those girls 
already. One of those girls that just sighs and laughs. One of those girls 
that waits...one of those girls that (dare i say it) stands by her man, her 
god, her beliefs, her hair. Heh.

Ah. what a life that must be.





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From daftpunk at xxx.au  Sat Jan  6 17:09:31 2001
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:09:31 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: THANK YOU FOR THE MUSIC...:)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010107010303.14245B-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

hi there-just a short note to say thanx to all those who gave me advice
re:burning from tape to cd-that is to say Pample Mousse, Kim and my old
trading buddy Lawrence Mikkelsen. haven't tried it out yet but will and if
all fails will come crawling back to ask for more help!
ok thanx again peeps!
seeya
Kin Woo

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            Take a pill!"- Cordelia Chase


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From room_30 at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 18:09:16 2001
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:09:16 -0000
Subject: Sinister: this is where all the hard work sacrifice and painful scaldings pay off - Homer
Message-ID: <F43H2q6DqaJY4kJSFsx0000e151@hotmail.com>

happy new year!


someone wrote:-

if you havent already got the
kathryn
williams cd (little black numbers) then i cant
emphasise enough how good and wonderful and
beautiful
it is.....if you buy a copy and dont like then you
can
come round my house and poke my eyes out with a
pointy
stick....and thats as good a recommendation as i can
give....

and i agree wholeheartedly. one of my bestest friends bought me it for 
krimbo and it's fab.
i also got the new godspeed...! one, david holmes's new one and the 
geometrid by looper coz i heard mondo 77 on the radio a few months back and 
really liked it. my sister got the badly drayn boy album but i just thought 
it went on and on and strummed a bit too much, and i really liked him live, 
he had loads of energu but it didn't come through on cd,

on frasier, why is daphne from manchester while all her brothers are dick 
van dyke style cockneys?

sorry to mike W for not spotting you at the gig even though you said you'd 
wear a b&s t-shirt but i'd forgotten that till later. our little geordie 
sinister get together was a bit of a flop i suppose.  my friend's band were 
the last ones on and they were a bit rubbish so don't worry about slagging 
them off
we went to stone love (local indie night) after and walked along the banks 
of the tyne in the snow to get there, i drank heavily from bottles of 
grolsch (which tastes like pish but was cheap) and ended up outside at 3am 
offering everybody to a snowball fight and then got pelted with a few 
hundred snowballs from all directions and fell on my arse twice.;)

i heard a nick drake tune on a bbc2 gardening show yesterday, but i carnt 
remember which one.

new year was good but i got drunk (again) and ended up snogging my ex 
girlfriend who was also drunk and proceeded to accompany her and her friends 
to whitley bay (about an hour's train ride from where we were) but she was 
nearly sick and went home so i went to a friends house and we stayed up till 
6 talking about mogwai and slint, which was nice. we have since talked and 
apoligised to each other and we're friends again. (the ex, not the 
mogwai/slint friend. although me and him are still friends.(shut up i hear 
you cry))

how do you pronounce aislers set? i think it's ay-slers set but my friend 
read it as i'll-ers set (as in supermarket aisle)
anybody?

it was my band's gig on thursday and it went SHITE.  i was bunged up with 
flu, the PA kept feeding back so my mic was turned off at the monitors so i 
couldn't hear myself and promptly sang out of tune, my guitar's volume kept 
changing itself, the minidisc player containing the drumloops died in the 
soundcheck and the replacement cd player's battery ran out so we cut the set 
short and performed the last song without drums but our hearts wern't in it 
anymore so we cut that short aswell and left.  i felt like smashing my 
guitar but it wasn't mine so i couldn't (but that would have been quite fun) 
ALSO my turntables had to be set up on a pub table so the records kept 
jumping everytime someone walked past to the toilet and i nearly throttled 
one of my friends for which i apoligised afterwards and everybody i swore 
at. rachel(my ex girlfriend from a couple of paragraphs ago, remember?) 
calmed me down and we all went to stone love (again) and i started my new 
year's resolution to start drinking vodka again (i stopped two years ago 
after a mate spent 2 days in hospital coz of it and it put me off, but he 
still drinks it so why shouldn't i, he has since drank 16 doubles in a 
single night but i digress)
at foundation everybody started snogging everyone else but the only person 
who came on to me was seth, my extremely gay friend who didn't get any i'm 
pleased to say (but he is working his way through all my straight friends so 
i'm getting worried.)

skip this bit if you want, if you've got *this* far i'm surprized
anna was snogging bobby who last week was snogging lisa but lisa was 
snogging peter who fancies jane who nearly split up with michael coz she'd 
snogged 3 other boys while they were together, peter, me, and jonesy, who is 
lucky to still be seeing cath (after she found out about him and jane). 
cath's best friend karen was snogging simon coz her ex left her for a 27 
year old but then came sniveling back. he was snogging hannah (sister of 
rachel and used to go out with peter) so karen hit hannah then paul but 
later apoligised to hannah through me. i got away with snogging jane a 
couple of months ago coz i didn't know she was seeing michael so it was her 
fault in case you are wondering.  this all happened on the dancefloor while 
the only ones who wern't snogging were me and rachel and we just stood and 
laughed at the complexity of it all.
and i got completely slabbed on vodkaredbulls (thanks to ken for reminding 
me of its vast medicinal powers)
d'you like the word SLABBED? i invented it myself.

the vodka didn't do much good for my flu though and i had to take friday off 
college and stay in bed wit a temperature and no voice listening to belle 
and sebastian (i knew i could squeeze some content in somewhere)
but now i have more content, my friend cath spotted dog on wheels, lazy 
line... and 3 6 9... for 2 pounds each on vinyl in a shop in leeds so is 
getting them for me, i'm so happy ! ^-^


that's quite a long mail for me but i haven't written in a while

i love you all, you get me through

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Sat Jan  6 19:31:15 2001
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:31:15 +0000
Subject: Sinister: words found in the vacuum cleaner
Message-ID: <3A577283.AA0CD6AA@netscapeonline.co.uk>

Hello

I haven't posted in a bit. Good to see Oranges and Sunset in the
in-tray!

Christmas I spent ill in bed.
New Year I was on my own. I wrote some lines in the first fifteen
minutes of 2001:

Opening the black lid,
Keys for E minor
(and added chromatics).
A dying note sustained into midnight,
*exactly* midnight:-
Walking upstairs to the new silence and it's 00:01 on 01/01/01
I open the window:-
no cars on the snowy road,
just glassy drips of melt-water;
cathedral bells from the valley;
the thunder of distant fireworks:
Fireworks glowing green, pink, blue
across a low-soft sky,
or bursting into glitter...
all the people setting these things off along the north-western horizon
behind
a dark embrace of woodland and forest
hugs deer and sleeping birds
and the watchful owls' eyes
in the 21st century.

I have entered (cheated in) the adverb competition -ly.
I just purchased some obscure music to give me feelings of credibility.
'Sexy World' by the Yummy Fur. It's got a Japanese woman on the cover
and a Korg MS10 on the back. I always wanted a Korg MS10.
I also bought a single by Bridget Storm cos it's got a sketch by the
Futurist architect Constant on the cover.
As for the music, well... it'll probably grow on me. I'm a sucker for
synthesizers.

Erm.. right ok...
Is that it?
Ok
'cut!'
it's a wrap...

Gordon


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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 19:54:08 2001
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:54:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: cough sweets,colourful slides and the american way
Message-ID: <20010106195408.6331.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com>

hello...
...i know its only a couple of days since i last
inflicted myself on you but i'm too ill to go out and
i have nothing to do....can i just gibber inane
rubbish to you for a little bit?....oooh good...youre
too kind.......
...Mrs Flu has been sitting on my head for the last
couple of days so i'm feeling horrible...in a perverse
way i do enjoy being sick...especially on a
weekday...it hasnt got the added pleasure of knowing
you ware skipping double maths anymore but its still
quite nice...i wrapped myself up in an industrial
sized duvet yesterday, armed myself with tissues,cough
sweets,water and the remote control...i think i may
have developed bedsores...its amazing the mindless
guff you end up watching when your off sick as
well...but the things you learn!....many invaluable
lessons of life are learnt through the power of
richard and judy,montel williams and crap lunchtime
gameshows ( which are always presented by smug
irishmen for unknown reasons )...and i'd forgotten how
intensley annoying kids tv presenters can be....so
moronically chirpy it makes you worse...but i know the
truth....i was once on a timmy mallet gameshow....
...i also had the strange phenomonen that is
'terrifying ill dreams'....maybe its not a phenomenen
at all but i always find that when i'm suffering from
illness i always have really weird and very scary
nightmares...i always have this paticular one where
i'm falling down a big multicoloured slide and theres
this voice counting down from 100 and i know that when
it reaches 1 that something awful is going to
happen...its scarier than it sounds...i woke up last
night after having this one and flounderd everywhere
like a clumsfy oaf, knocking over water,setting my
alarm clock off and banging my head on the
wardrobe...twas not a pleasant nights sleep...
....i have been neglecting b+s lately...not
purposfully but its nice just to forget them for a
while...then a couple of months later 'tigermilk' will
wink at me in a cheeky way from the cd rack and i'll
think "wow! i havent listen to b+s in
aaaggeess"...hence i'll fall in love all over again
and listen to everything until i'm singing 'fox in the
snow' in the bath.....
...argh...i have to go back to college on monday and
face the impending disaster that is a levels....only
five months left before i'm thrown out into the big
scary world on my backside...thats a worrying
thought...i may just pack up everything in a small
hankerchief and look for truth,justice and the
american way...like a dick whittington/clark kent
mutant dosser...or i might just work in an
office....what a depressing thought....am i
rambling...ok....
ta ta!

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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Sat Jan  6 20:25:49 2001
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:25:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Twelfth Night
Message-ID: <20010106202549.25828.qmail@web313.mail.yahoo.com>

Sinistah!

Nights out are alright but you can't beat spending
Friday night in the flat, polishing off the last of
the Xmas bouze, watching Fight Club and exchanging
witty bons mots with flatmate about how one of us is
probably just the charismatic alter-ego of the other
but we stopped short of burning our hands with lye.  I
am Rob's first real feeling of relaxation for weeks.  

And my Helena Bonham-Carter dreams are more exciting
than ever.

Shopping was the order of the day and it was time to
buy shoes.  Not the usual grubby trainers that
transport me through the day but the black unfussy
ones that make me socially acceptable at work.  A word
here to blokes:  LACE UPS!  Why on earth do so many
guys think that loafers with (pejorative) grate big
silver buckles - or loafers generally - actually look
good??  They should all be rounded up and issued with
a smart pair of brogues.

While on my travels I picked up copies of Luba #1 - 5
'cos Los Bros Hernandez rool.  And they're starting up
Love & Rockets again which makes me drool with joy. 
If that's a good thing.

Did sombody mention a pic-nic in April?  Yay!  As long
as I don't kill myself snowboarding in France at the
start of that month...

I'm really no good at closing posts

Robster

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From kgirton at xxx.com  Sat Jan  6 22:40:23 2001
From: kgirton at xxx.com (Kim)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:40:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: A Call to Arms... Or legs, or other dance-able things...
Message-ID: <383653775.978820823952.JavaMail.root@web446-ec.mail.com>

Hello Sinisterees --
... This comes half by inspiration of the "why be too shy to post?" post, and half by the now-overwhelming need to be able to share stories of my own involving other Sinisterees and much of the sauce and the pubs and the snogging... well, maybe not too much of the snogging at first, but there's always room for growth... in time....  (Alas, I jest -- I happen to really like the word "snog.")
   Anyway, if you lost my point already -- don't worry about it.  It didn't start off with a point so much as a vague and blurry sense of misguided quasi-purpose.  Here's my point:  If there's anyone who regularly reads, posts, lurks, checks in the room once in a while to see who's left the party, etc. from the Baltimore/Washington, D.C. area, how's about we make an effort to post more often, perhaps establishing a common East Coast American bond south of the Already Present New York City Sinister Branch?  
   It just sits on my last nerve, plucking away at what little's left, to know that there are people around who'd like to check out the newer bands in the area, or sit around Xando's (or perhaps somewhere less trendy) discussing the greatness that is "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song", but I don't know where said people are.  Besides... I need backup.  Most of my friends are more than happy to accompany me on my B&S vinyl-hunts, but frankly, they just don't get the importance of these occasions.  My best friend Lisa (my only friend who equals - and in fact may surpass -- my tangible B&S fandom) lives up in Maine, and these twice-a-year visits north for mass music searching isn't cutting it anymore.  Perhaps there's more evil in my post-college world; perhaps I'm more easily irritated... in any case, I need my B&S fixes.  
   Consider this a plea for fellow U.S. East Coast Sinisterees to come out of the shadows and ... hell, let's all hit Dupont Circle and get trashed, and then wander out into the D.C. night singing a poor rendition of "Me and the Major"...
(Sorry.  I got carried away.)
   Thank you for sitting through that rant.  I apologize for any irritation it may have caused (physical or otherwise).
   My best to all Sinisterees world-wide --
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From phil-two at xxx.com  Sun Jan  7 04:10:24 2001
From: phil-two at xxx.com (Phil Two)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:10:24 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Dreaming of horses and stuff.
Message-ID: <20010107041024.PMSE16298.mta11.onebox.com@onebox.com>

I had this odd dream about Sinister a few days ago, and I've since spent
much thought analyzing it.  But I'll share, since I guess it involves
some of you:  OK, me and ree elia are walking in a carnival, past cotton
candy stands and the like, and come to a merry-go-round, but all the
horsies have the faces of various Sinister people I've met!!  Except
just the boy ones: hobnob brian, mcmcmc brian, durkw, stevie trousers,
christiaan, benjamin, martin robinson, paul, carsmile steve, fluke, among
others.  It was weird, but I didn't notice how strange it was until I
woke up.  Instead, ree and I ran around like children trying to decide
which horsie to sit on.  I really wish I could remember who I sat on
and, um, rode...  That would tell me much, I think.  Anybody have any
theories?

Well, my trip to London is not turning out as planned since I am sick
and laid up in Mell Street right now while Martin, Julie, Carey, and
Ree are up having fun in Scotland.  I'm a bit disappointed not to have
been able to meet honey and ally cook and other various listees.  Next
time, I suppose.  

Instead, Im sitting on the internet all day and watching the telly. 
Yesterday, I caught an episode of Roswell High hoping that it would be
that episode where they play 'Dont Leave the Light On Baby', Papas Fritas,
and Apples in Stereo.  No luck, it was some old-ass episode that I think
I've already seen.  Same with Buffy.  By the way, does anyone remember
the short-lived teen soap opera many years ago called "Swans Crossing"
starring the one-and-only Sarah Michelle Gellar?  It featured Buffy as
a young debutante, a black computer nerd, and a girl who lived in a submarine.
 Brilliant!  And I also have all 40 episodes on VHS somewhere hidden
away in my basement [it was one of those unfortunate eBay impulse bids],
unused along with the RonCo Food Dehydrator and George Foreman Lean Mean
Grilling Machine.  My dad is a sucker for food gadgets - he just bought
the Juiceman Jr.

And I looked up Cat Power on the internet, and she's not all that "hot".
 Though I'm probably the wrong person to ask regarding such matters.
 *shrug*  I guess I'll go see if the Japanese porn is still showing on
BBC4.  

Love,
Phil




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From bellezc at xxx.com  Sun Jan  7 16:12:06 2001
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:12:06 
Subject: Sinister: An essay(yak!)
Message-ID: <F187RfcjcMzfoV1qdii00002b7d@hotmail.com>

Hello everyone...haven't written for a while and now I am writing fro boring 
subjects such as university essay...
Anyway, I am doing this essay for uni about our beloved list and I need to 
use a few messages. I have chosen the ones and contacted individually the 
people concerned.No fear, the messages will be used anonymously. 
Nevertheless a few of the emails I sent with my request for using the 
messages bounced back. I know that this list has god knows how many messages 
that I could choose from BUT there's this one message that I HAVE to use 
since it is highly connected with the subject of my essay. The person who 
has written the message is Anastasia Signoretta . Please, if anyone knows 
how I can contact her let me know.

I hope I am not making a mistake by asking everyone. It's just a university 
essay anyway!
Thanks.
Zoe
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Sun Jan  7 16:30:22 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:30:22 EST
Subject: Sinister: a mile and a half on a bus...rant number 4
Message-ID: <a5.fdb0fbe.2789f39e@aol.com>

a mile and a half on a bus takes exactly 6 minutes where I live. I clocked it 
on Thursday. I must have looked like a wingnut, but I don't care. I did feel 
a little Ignatious Rileyish, but I like him...so I didn't mind...but I didn't 
heckle anyone...so I don't know how much like him I could really feel and get 
away with.

I am still sick, so please tolerate me for a while, ok? I have some wintery 
illness that has kept me in for almost 2 days. Someone mentioned bed sores 
earlier. I am familiar, though they are sofa sores really...same difference, 
i guess. 

I am on antibiotics, and other pills. not by doctors orders really, but I had 
them left over from August when I had similar symptoms. Looking around I see 
4 half eaten bowls of soup and about 7 juice glasses, a pen and paper, and a 
lot of half eaten orange rinds. 

I havent smoked any cigarettes. I figure that I smoke about 6 per day. Doing 
the math I have skipped probably 12. If it is true what people say "one 
cigarette takes 7 minutes off your life" then I just bought myself about 84 
minutes in the end. I will use it wisely as it feels like money in the bank 
right now. Though the people that say that probably never figure that you may 
be hit by a bus while crossing the street. If that happens, I will be sure to 
tell them "hey, I still have 84 minutes."  

I wonder about the people that chain smoke suffering from insufficient funds 
or whatever. Lets say that they smoke so much that they owe time to the 
banker that tracks that sort of thing. Overdrawn, so to speak. How horrible. 
heh.

I am planning a trip to New York in 2001. I have never been, though I have 
always felt like I belonged there. There is something so Leonard Cohenish 
about the place. I could even buy a long blue coat. I made plans to skip my 
10 year high school reunion and meet a friend at the MOMA. I wonder if he 
forgot. I nearly did. I really only remember it when I am feeling 
exceptionally lonely and sentimental, but we made these plans in 1995...I 
seriously doubt he remembers...he is the same boy that I stood behind in the 
big bank downtown last week, just so you know. Figuring that we still live in 
the same town and don't speak...I doubt the trip to NY would be much 
different. At the time I was moving back home for school...and he was going 
to Athens for his photography. I wonder if he remembers those plans at all. A 
lot has happened since then. sigh. What a difference 6 years makes. Six years 
and no resolution. Six years finds me thinking of six years ago. Not making 
much progress am I? Of course I could go stand behind him in line at the MOMA 
and not speak. That could be us. The couple that doesn't talk. A girl that 
just stands behind a boy in random lines. Heh. Quite possibly the secret to a 
lasting relationship...never talking. 

You may be thinking that I am just all distraught over this boy, not really 
true. though not really false either. I have fallen in love twice since him, 
but mostly just to spite him. if that is even possible. Oh I am such a 
vindictive girl. Though we all know the joke is on me, right? It's like 
saying " I will get him good this time...I am gonna fall head over hills in 
love with someone...he will be sorry then" I am truly a fool. 

I fell in love with a boy recently. He has since dumped me. He thought I was 
too wishy washy...which is ridiculous as the first thing I ever said to him 
was "give me ambiguity or give me something else" you would think one would 
have seen the signs. and I was never into holding hands and that sort of 
thing in public...that seems to only bother the person wanting to do all the 
hand holding really. Frankly, I am always pleased to NOT see someone playing 
tonsil hockey in a public place. He was a needy little thing...and I am so 
selfish, but you know...whatever. Sometimes the best thing you can ever hope 
for is to just get along with someone well enough to go to a show together. 

The older I get the more I see that other people hold one special person in a 
very high regard. Not to say that anyone that comes along after isn't 
worthy...but you have to consider too that someone is holding that person in 
the same regard that youre holding your person...and no one is getting 
anywhere. Though I will never be blamed for not trying.

Not to mention my waging war against the boy i hold in high regard...cause in 
the end I will look at him and say "heh. i found someone else." i am so  damn 
stupid sometimes...it amazes me. I would sooner let him go...even if I had 
the opportunity to have him again...I guess I just really like the idea of 
him more than him. And he did horrible things to me while we were together. 
Which brought on my question of relativity in rant number one. I think he 
loved me as well as he loved anyone...it just wasn't enough for me...but if 
it was all that he was capable of then maybe it could have been. However, 
shagging my girlfriend turned into the straw that broke the camel...I know, I 
know...I am so demanding. sheesh, I mean how dare I think that he need be 
exclusive to me? He has a cock and he wants to use it. Who am I to stand in 
the way of that. Grrrrr.

Well, it is probably clear by now that I am somewhat of a narcissist. Why 
would I even flatter myself into thinking that anyone has made it this 
far...but if you have...I have a question for you:

How long does a mile and a half on a bus take in your town?



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From starpiekat at xxx.uk  Sun Jan  7 18:38:11 2001
From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:38:11 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Thai Elephant Orchestra
Message-ID: <20010107183811.50588.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear friends, 

in fact, dear enemies too! Hello! Do any of you have pet moles? It would be so
totally rad if you did. Been a long time since I posted, but since I just found
the best Thai fact in the World I knew that it simply must be shared. I shall
leave it at the bottom of the post.

So what on earth is going on with this list these days, does it have a
dominatrix? Oh dear, get thee to a vampire ball. My friends are going to one in
Lancaster, needless to say I wasn't invited, but needless to say any event
where you have to bring your own false teeth smacks of foolishness to me....
unless its a themed "come as the pensioner of your choice" party and even in
THAT case you're being ageist cos not ALL old people lack their own teeth, you
know. Bastards. I blame Polygrip Ultra.

Did you know that in Mexico there's something called Mole Sauce? And the secret
catch is that it's not actually made from moles. Oh no. It's made from mulatto
chiles (or guajillos if you object to the word mulatto in its unsavoury
contexts) and um.... salsa type stuff...with the addition of cinnamon and
mexican chocolate! Whats the difference between Mexican chocolate and British
chocolate? Thats not a funny either, I really do want to know...

Mole mole mole.

I wish I could be a mole in another life. With little round mole glasses. I'd
burrow about all the time. It would be grand! I bet a mole would have its own
little pub too, with flocked carpets and Stan behind the bar pulling a pint of
MoleBrew... awww. I'd wear tweed too. Oh dear I'm automatically assuming I'd be
a male mole. Does this say something about my femininity? Or perhaps just about
moles? Who knows. 

Mole mole mole.

THAI FACT!

> from News of the Weird # 674
> 
> The debut CD from the Thai Elephant Orchestra (Lampang, Thailand) was
> scheduled for December release, featuring six pachyderm prodigies playing
> crude versions of traditional instruments (drum, gong, bass, xylophone) and
> recorded intact, without overdubbing, to create music that (in the words of
> a New York Times writer) "strike(s) some Western listeners as haunting,
> others as monotonous." The CD's American producers, pointing to much
> academic research on elephants' natural musical abilities, said they plan a
> second album ("easy-listening," engineered, they said, to make it more
> accessible to a wider audience).
> 
> [New York Times, 12-16-00]

Kisses, 
SarahMole

Incidentally, Kipper the Dog is great. And I don't think that due to
allegations over my "real" first name. Ha ha. I'd like a dog, like a dog, like
a dog, like a dog like Kipper. And I know perfectly well the difference between
a frog and a toad. My neice Katie likes Kipper too. I 'accidentally' mishear
her pleas for Bob the Builder. Sorry, Bob fans.

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From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk  Sun Jan  7 21:57:35 2001
From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Mikey)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:57:35 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I again
Message-ID: <4081F1234B@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk>

Hi,

	Just to say that Jules isn't homeless anymore, she's found 
somewhere. But thanks if you sent nice messages to her :o)

Lots of love,
Mikey
:o)
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Sun Jan  7 22:07:53 2001
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:07:53 -0000
Subject: Sinister: January's Rain Has Done What, Edna?
Message-ID: <000101c078f6$54baf380$2adc7ad5@default>

Hi All,

The other day Channel 4 Teletext Planet Sound mentioned that Stuart David
was publishing a new novel "Peacock Manifesto" on April 16th, that Looper
would play some dates to promote it and that they would release a new album
in July.


Sarah, the chocolate is added to the sauce at the end, more for colour than
flavour, & its because British chocolate has so much milk & sugar in it (&
so little cocoa) that the EU keeps on trying to ban us from calling it
chocolate at all. So use a plain chocolate in your recipe. You can buy
something that purports to be similar to the original Aztec chocolate in
middle class supermarkets. (= Sainsburys)


Bye,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Sun Jan  7 22:53:57 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:53:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Happy aniversary.
Message-ID: <20010107225357.25804.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com>

Its about a year since I invaded your lives, and you
invaded mine, and we had a mutual invasion thing going
on of e mails and stuff. Blimey! What a year! This
time last year, you were all writing about B+S on the
tube, going FRANTIC for other peoples opinions, and
seeing if anyone stayed in and taped it cos, doh! you
forgot how to work the VCR. 

Remember?

And I was like..

"er.. hello! Why are you all going frantic? you're all
a wee bit mad really aren't you"
And the general response was:
To keep going mad about b+s on the tube.
And I got bored of that, so in traditional me way, I
decided to just gibber on and make you notice.

Ahh. Fond memories.

So far, the arguments have been kept to a minimum.

So! its 2001!

Wheres my B+S GIG THEN??!

Come on, we were PROMISED a gig or two in 2001. well
its 2001, and about seven days have passed, and still,
NO GIGS. Shocking. NO WONDER STEPS HAVE MORE FANS! cos
they actually deliver the gigs. Apparently you get to
see Fayes undies too.
Or was it Claires?

Pah. no such luck from the Camp Belle and Sebastian.
They're too busy being busy, and being "artistes". 

Makes you want to strip off your Study at Stow t
shirt, and make growly noises of discontentmentness.

Hope you all had a good new year. Me and boyfriend got
extremely wet, wandering about from Byres Road down to
see Teenage Fanclub on new years eve. Cold, wet and
wet again. And colder still. 

Boyfriend was lovely at Christmas. Did I tell you what
he gave me? A glockenspiel!
Ah! it must be love!

Well, it was either that or some DOC martens.

I've gone off on a bit of a thing at the moment.
Happens every new year.

This year, I intend to give up:
going to the hairdresser
being 22 (well, at least by the end of the year)
being a student
being skint.

I also intend to:
fill your lives with more of the same, but with a
secret ingredient
keep a notebook by my side at all times
graduate
learn how to drive, take my test and pass (I will
pass! goddammit!!)
do stuff
Work out why I am feeling so baffled creatively,
sort it out
and give up being creative around february (as usual)
and settle for reading a magazine and watching
eastenders.


Oh, and hopefully make some pom poms as well.

Anyway, its just past new year, and here I am. And I'm
going through this bizarre "I MUST do something
creative!!" phases, as I do every new year, where I
think of some stunning idea that could change the
world, and get stuck in, then give up when its either
not as easy as intended or people don't realise.

In recent years its involved me buying oil paints, or
just trying my hand at something, or buying loads of
books from the new age bit in waterstones about
horoscopes and witch craft and crystals. Before that
it would be a make over for myself the night before
the first day of school.

Anyway, thats it for now,
Laters
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From MyMomSays at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 07:35:27 2001
From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:35:27 EST
Subject: Sinister: makeoutclub.com
Message-ID: <a3.10294064.278ac7bf@aol.com>

Hey kids,
    I just met some of you in a chat room. Hi everyone. just to let you know 
I usually delete this messages unless the subject line catches my eye, and.. 
i just wanted to let you all know because I feel terrible about it. I should 
read them all no matter what. I'm Mandee and I live in Colorado. Visit 
www.geocities.com/mymomvacuums if you want to see a lame uncompleted website 
that will leave you feeling unsatisfied.
love,
mandee
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Mon Jan  8 11:51:18 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:51:18 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Books Make You Bald
Message-ID: <001c01c07969$70b040e0$6d69243e@itjfvkli>

So Jeepster do a deal with XFM to put out their "charity" album and before
you can say "Neil Robertson" a string of top Jeepster acts such as The
Gents' are enjoying free promotion via extended concert broadcasts on XFM.
If it weren't so laughable, it'd be funny.

THAI NEWS - CLEAN SWEEP FOR NEW BROOM

A Thai businessman has won an unexpected landslide victory in the
presidential elections. He's going to form a three party coalition
government in an attempt to quash unruly elephant opposition in the House
(trumpeting out of turn). Like "Bedknobs and Broomsticks".

Thanks to David "Flashback" Moore for alerting us to B&S's appearance at
number 49 in the Festive Fifty, a position traditionally held by The Sisters
of Mercy. Fancy being beaten by Hefner. Has the world gone stark staring
mad?

I could go on for hours and hours about Mexican chocolate, but I'd have to
go and look it up first. Mole also means big huge thing in Spanish, Kipper.
I've got some 74% cocoa chocolate, it's bloody horrible. It's on the Nestlé
label.

I bought an album by Merle Haggard and there's a sticker on the front with a
quote from Tom Waits - "Want to learn to write songs?... Listen to Merle
Haggard." I have crossed out "Merle Haggard" and written "The Pinefox" in
propelling pencil. I saw a lot of Nitty Gritty Dirt Band CDs when I was
buying it.

For Christmas I got a "Keith Moon - The Life and Death of a Rock Legend"
postcard which I carry with me at all times, like a rock'n'roll donor card.

I recommend the film "Small Time Crooks" starring Tracy Ullman. Eat shit,
Lenny Henry.

Mister Jordi and Mamselle 99 might like to know (if they don't know already)
that Stuart "Peacock Redemption" David's favourite band Migala will be
wowing the shoppers at an "in-store" in "el Fnac" in "L'illa" on "el
diagonal" on Thursday at 1900. I might wear my red jumper for the occasion.

Peter

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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 12:43:35 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:43:35 EST
Subject: Sinister: uh huh
Message-ID: <f.e381a73.278b0ff7@aol.com>

well, i would certainly like to avoid this, but it seems i have no choice. 
some of you have been so kind to me...sending me get wells and encouraging me 
on...but then there were the other few of you that were horribly rude to me. 
all i can say is this:

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, the 
dunces are all in confederacy against him.

and yes, i realize that maybe i ranted on a little much I was sick and 
isolated with nothing better to do...but fuck you if you don't like 
it...click delete. its just that simple...i do it all the time. youre 
probably the same group of people that call people out cause you dont like 
their dress or hair or shoes...in which case i think you should be hung by 
your toes.

now please dont email me again with your halfwitted bullshit. 

(clearing throat)

Thank you.


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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 15:51:24 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:51:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: sigh
Message-ID: <27.fc4f919.278b3bfc@aol.com>

i am sorry for offending everyone with my foul language. and i am sorry for 
venting to everyone as opposed to the respective persons that annoyed me. it 
won't happen again...and again, i am sorry. i really am.

i wont curse ever again on the list or off it as i have truly learned my 
lesson on being a potty mouth.

sorry. sorry. sorry.
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From g.lynch at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 16:50:39 2001
From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Elizabeth Mary Lynch)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:50:39 -0800
Subject: Sinister: "Indie-pop girls of the world unite"
Message-ID: <MADJGNJKOEAKFAAA@mailcity.com>

Dear Sin'ters

Well, when I was first awarded my voice and graduated from the nursery, I was thrilled. I felt like Ariel at the end of the Disney version of The Little Mermaid. Not the original story, because she kills herself in that, doesn't she? Someone tell me if this is true or not, because I need to know. Anyway, because it was the Christmas holidays and I had a million and one things to do, I didn't get a chance to test my voice, but now I am back at college, with all the time in the world. So here I am.

I have enjoyed very much being part of this list. I like to read your gig reviews, tales of what happens when sin'ters meet-up and everybody's romantic escapades. I was sad to miss the deadline for the Great Present Exchange, but I definitely want to be part of it next year and I really want to hear how it went this year.

FACT. When I first heard of Belle and Sebastian, this was a few years ago, I thought it was  a Disney spin-off and that Belle was Beauty from Beauty and the Beast and Sebastian was the crab from The Little Mermaid. I thought "What a stupid idea, who wants to listen to a whole heap of Disney songs" and turned off the radio. What a fool I was!

I revised my opinion after seeing Legal Man on Top of the Pops. Then after reading a couple of great reviews for it, I decided to buy Fold Your Hands Child as a birthday present for myself last summer. And I feel in love with it. I thought it was all so beautiful, and the music and words made pretty stories in my head.

Then I got Tigermilk for Christmas and I love that too. I know that I'm going to be spending much time and money in the near future collecting their music and it makes me happy that there's so much to collect.

For those of you that like to know these things, I am 18 years old, in my second year of college in Dublin, Ireland. I am studying Multimedia Computing, but I love acting and the theatre, and one of my favourite bands is The Divine Comedy. I'm also a girl.

Hugs and happiness.
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From brier at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 20:30:32 2001
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:30:32 -0800
Subject: Sinister: You're soaking in it.
Message-ID: <001301c079b1$da7ef6e0$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Hi angels & devils & doms & subs,

When did girls get to be such potty-mouths?  And i'm not even talking about
Isabel here, i'm thinking of the loud girl at the bar on Friday, who was
talking about music (loudly) to her two friends, and from what i could hear
(which was a lot) she had pretty good taste.  She loved the new Yo La T, and
was saying something about Guided By Voices.  Then i got out my Hello Kitty
wallet, with the Matador sticker on it, and she said "You like Matador?" and
i thought it was a sly pick-up line so i said "why yes" and she said "FUCK
Matador!" very loudly, and my only hope is that some people misheard her as
saying to me "fuck me in the doorway" which would improve my status at this
particular bar considerably.  Which is exactly what i need.  She was
probably just upset about Pavement.

Finally some rain last night, one hell of a dashing pouring rain.  Good for
things that grow.  Good for things that live alone.  I decided to be brave
and ride my scooter to work anyway, not sure if the rain is finished or not.
Got my mittens just in case.  I'll be fine.  Speaking of GBV, didn't they
play n.years eve in n.carolina, Llaura??  I'm sure you were there.

Extra loud (like the girl at the bar) THANKS to the delightful Annie Tremp
for smuggling me a suitcase full of Belgian chocolate, my sweet tooth is
sore, and a mix-tape with a caramel center.  Everything was sweet and so is
she.

Content?  You bet I am.

And although i liked several albums last year, the best thing to come out
was by a girl from Olympia Washington named Mirah.  Everything else comes in
second.  Even you-know-who.  (no, not Britney).  Listening to the latest
Travis CD now, track 7 is pretty good.

Off to the Dep't of Motor Vehicles to get a personalized plate for my
scooter.  Any guesses what it'll say?

Your unfaithful servant,

Brier


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From jonnyfive at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 21:24:50 2001
From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonny five)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:24:50 -0600
Subject: Sinister: i fought in a rumour
Message-ID: <412001118212450366@starmail.com>

Sini, 

back from 'exciting' chrimble, with its not-pleasant mission of coming out
to my folks complete. everything went as OK as could be expected, but i
don't exactly look back on it with pleasure. it puts me in the position of
Second Outest Sinite (although i'm willing to be relegated to a lower
position on the production of sufficient evidence), and Deputy Gay Question
Answerer, second only to the king of out, Eric. 

Tthis is the sort of shite you end up sending to Sini when it's 9pm, you've
spent the entire day alone because you came back to uni early to revise
(i.e. buy new clothes), and you've discovered RealAudio *and* you've got
headphones. i'm sorry for being silly, i'm just happy that i've done the
deed. i hope no-one, in or out, is offended by my post-9pm daftness. i
didn't mean to attempt to usurp anyone on the Sinister Gay League Table.

so, rumours: my sister, who is in The Party (the, delightfully Sinister,
Socialist Worker's Party), tells me that B&S are currently in negotiations
to play a Party benefit concert of some sort in Manchester. No time,
details or authentification were offered, despite threats of chrimble
present with-holding or TV guide destruction. So that's all. I just though
Sini needed to know, or maybe i need lots of mails with my name in them
(and the words, in no particular order, 'lurker', 'swine', 'bloodhound',
'old' and 'hat'). please can someone better informed let me (and the entire
world) know. ps my secret opinion is that they are getting a Rich 'n' Mick
DJ Set, but i'm not letting myself get any less excited yet.

other than the gay business, and the vague poss. of a concert, That Is All. 
j.xxx
ps big swooping waves to eric, miles and loz. and to everyone else on Sini,
whether they know me or not.
pps oh, and a big 'You utter bastards' to everyone for the horrifically bad
response to my Honey's Chrimble Present Idea Thing. You do realise she has
gone back on the Quaaludes and is locking herself in the understairs
cupboard with a hairbrush as we speak? you swines.

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From ava60 at xxx.com  Mon Jan  8 23:00:33 2001
From: ava60 at xxx.com (Ava Arsaga)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:00:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: finally hello
Message-ID: <F186zW3yZty1sh4AsK60000da28@hotmail.com>

Alright. I've decided it is quite time for me to make my introduction, but 
I'll do my best to make it short for i know how tedious it is to read ten 
page long emails from one you dont really  know or want to for that 
matter...oh i hope that's not the case...just amuse me...please...i think 
that i was out of the nursery about a month and a half ago, but dear lord it 
took me about that long to catch up with all of you people...i come to check 
my mail and i end up having seventeen new messages which is quite a paradigm 
shift from, well zero (excluding the ***MAKE $500 IN TWENTY MINUTES*** and 
the likes)...anyway, my name is Ava. There. I dont quite know what else to 
say...well im an "avid" listener of B&S...but who here isn't...I go to 
FHS...fayetteville high...ugh...i had to go up in speech class and recite a 
poem...which i forgot to prepare for as usual, but it all worked out...Belle 
and Sebastian saved me again as i strolled up to the front of the class and 
recided, somewhat "tunefully", if thats a word, Fox in the Snow...well..i 
think i'm taking up too much of everyone's time...but more later....dont 
worry, they'll be short too...It was nice...

Take care,
Ava
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From MyMomSays at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 01:32:03 2001
From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:32:03 EST
Subject: Sinister: Julie Doiron and the Wooden Stars
Message-ID: <49.5d46d14.278bc413@aol.com>

Beloved,
I must insist you all listen to Julie Doiron's beautiful voice.
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From lgluhani at xxx.edu  Tue Jan  9 17:04:49 2001
From: lgluhani at xxx.edu (glu)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:04:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Peeking 'round the corner
In-Reply-To: <F311C4BgmmwQvBECnyR00010889@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101091154560.20360-100000@stargate.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

Hello!
After recently graduating from nursery status, I figured I, too, should
introduce myself.  My name is Laura.  I am a junior at the University of
Michigan in Ann Arbor, MI (talk to ME about snow- and, anyone have a
summer internship in marketing/advertising they'd like to tell me about??)
I have liked B&S for, maybe, three? years now.  I listen to a variety of
music and love how b&s have that indescribable niche of listening
time when one is just in the *mood* for b&s.  Very foggy explanation
there, but I'm sure most of you understand.  I own 4 discs and one bootleg
tape my friend got for me in Germany (which was claimed to be soundboard
but I beg to differ)  I love the community nature of this list already and
look forward to some intelligent music discussions as well.
sincerely,
Laura
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From llu at xxx.edu  Tue Jan  9 18:11:58 2001
From: llu at xxx.edu (Lu, Liqin)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:11:58 -0500 
Subject: Sinister: Peeking 'round the corner
Message-ID: <5F0819E34A27D411AFD400D0B77CF9B7E244F4@leopard.middlebury.edu>

>I am a junior at the University of
>Michigan in Ann Arbor, MI (talk to ME about snow- 

or me, i live in vermont =)
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From sinister at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 21:10:22 2001
From: sinister at xxx.com (eevil john jennings)
Date: 9 Jan 2001 21:10:22 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Another new one (tired yet?)
Message-ID: <20010109211022.jengs@Plus.Net>


Yes yes hello, another one of these 'ooh i'm just out of the nursery' emails... I know you're all getting annoyed by them... I'm sorry <sob>
My names John, also known as eevil john by some, possibly because of my addiction with the word evil (ignore me whenever i use it please). I'm 16, making me a scarily young, but devoted belle and sebastian fan, i'll admit*... i've just chosen philosophy, english literature, general studies, politics and maths for a-level (ooh god that *does* look like a lot when I type it like that)...
Being a Belle and Sebastian fan here in eevil leicester is not good... my home town is nottingham, and sorry if i'm being offensive here, but nottingham natives are a lot friendlier. All these scary leicestery people like eminem and that sort of stuff... i've met 3 fellow indie kids, spread over the entire city. Eevil. If anyone is from leicester, i'd like to hear from you... i don't bite, and i won't immediately dismiss you for being from leicester, as i have been doing recently (sob, i admit it)...
Aanyways, thats enough about me...
I was searching on napster for all the rare b&s songs the other day, and pretty much all them... (i think loneliness is rapidly becoming one of my favourite b&s songs) but i downloaded two versions of lord anthony and am not impressed... one is more fuzzy than channel 6 on a bad day, and the other is just a 4 minute recording of the audience talking amongst themselves with a vague musical 'noise' going on in the background... is this song actually any good and is my persistent searching for it any use people??
I'm sure i intended to write more than this, but i think about these sorts of things, and get the best ideas in awkward places, where i can't go about doing them there and then, awkward places this week have included a maths exam and viola duet... yes i was playing a viola... places like that...
Aanyhow, sorry, i didn't intend to be as boring as i appear to have been so far...
But byee for now
John

* I feel guilty writing that i'm a big b&s fan, seeing as i haven't listened to any belle and sebastian for weeks... i also have a feeling that i won't like the next album, fold your wotsits has been my least favourite so far... i'm currently listening to cinerama (tres tres cool) and hefner instead... oooh evil.

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From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 22:09:22 2001
From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:09:22 
Subject: Sinister: Mick Cooke on Telly
Message-ID: <F284bbkA5JIzpNcedZh00000f72@hotmail.com>

Happy lunar eclipse,

I just remembered (sorry it's so late) -  For those of you who get Scottish 
Television (BBC3) there's a program on at half ten tonight called "The 
Point" and I believe it has an interview Mick Cooke who is talking about the 
Electric City thing in Glasgow.  Sorry it's such late notice!  s o r r y.

I hope you are all doing just fine,

Chris

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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 22:31:38 2001
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:31:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Perfume Ponce
Message-ID: <LAW2-F1761NpK4kz3Of0000f0c9@hotmail.com>

Hello and Joyeux Paques! (happy new year for those of you that don't speak 
Spanish)
Well it's been a while, but I've been urged by sooo many people (2) to come 
out from within my hibernatory (?) burrow of lurkerdoom and sniff the 
sinister air once again.
Mole mole mole.

And it smells like:

A perfume not like any perfume known before. Not a scent that made things 
smell better, not some sachet, some toiletry. It was something completely 
new, capable of creating a whole world, a magical, rich world, and in an 
instant you forgot all the loathsomeness around you and felt so rich, so at 
ease, so free, so fine...

It was in fact the Fragrant World of Princess Honey, Christiaan and chums! 
(Courtesy of the book I'm reading by Patrick Suskind-Perfume, �0.00, nearest 
library).

But I digress. Well I don't actually have a point. Just wanted to say hello 
again and let's some of us get together for ales sometime soon, yes?

As to B&S. Well, just listened to IYFS while supping strong mead, and boy 
was it as delicious a vintage as ever. (IYFS that is. The mead was circa 
1243-pretty stale).

I was surprised that IsablelLark had got some grief. I was enjoying her 
musings, and as she says, just press delete-oh you haven't already, cheers! 
But c'mon, no need to slag people here.

Well I'm pished but quite cheerful after all the Festive Bullshit (TM).

And so I'll depart to slay dragons, fortified by nothing other than stale 
mead, porter, la courage netherlandias et un peu de la joie de sinistere.

Happy hangovers to all,
Love Iain
xxxx

shoulda stuck to Red Bull...but for that tale of derring-don't, speak to 
Ken...


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From jordiet at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 09:53:27 2001
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 9 Jan 2001 09:53:27 +0000
Subject: Sinister: chocolate !
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From intactfragment at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 10:04:29 2001
From: intactfragment at xxx.com (Michael Burkett)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:04:29 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Attention any in Charleston SC: Plese read!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <F2065UE9chbN2tEwLqJ0000ebc9@hotmail.com>




I am looking for Charleston South Carolina people associated with the list, 
please take pity on me and respond to this!


I have been for some time, just another lurker in the nursery, but now its 
time for me to get my creep on. Sorry not really, it�s a very brief and 
direct message, entirely devoid of content.
Since this is the only list I subscribe to on the web, my allegiances are 
clear, hopefully allowing me to avoid actual B&S content for this nursery 
emergence.

I moved to Charleston very recently, and I was hoping that there would be a 
few of you in the area. Please send me mail, at intactfragment at hotmail.com 
so I can figure out a way to meet and drink with your ubiquitous self.  It's 
on me for the privileged, so cheers to a free meal because you listen to a 
band you like.  If that�s too much, the act meeting people is creepy (see 
Radiohead) and you would prefer to stay anonymous for a little while, just 
knowing there are a few listers in Charleston would be comfort enough 
assuming you let me know about it.

With regards to picnics, the house I stay at is on Hampton park which makes 
it easy to serve up a meal on a blanket (mind the pet turds) for any size 
gathering.  If you get this in time, there will be about 6 people coming to 
visit me this weekend, which makes it a party that you are invited to. 
Details obtained at 843 805 5062.

Thank you indeed,
Michael

Other things before you send you may like to know:

1.  If I don�t get a reply I will rage (or hang around and burn my fingers)
2.  I am male, 25 often
3 . read too much theory?


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From manicsus at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 15:56:12 2001
From: manicsus at xxx.com (Lee Vowell)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:56:12 -0500
Subject: Sinister: My first post (Yay!)
Message-ID: <F188Qu1bCdUg07MJJQ800000dce@hotmail.com>





>    Hi. This is my first post (as the subject says). I think I'll play it 
>safe
>and just tell everyone a little bit about myself.
>    My name is Lee. I live in Charleston, SC, USA. I think the town is a
>lovely place. It's one of the States prettiest cities and one of the 
>oldest.
>But to Europeans, our definition of old is really laughable, so I'll move
>on...
>    I like to read quite a bit, but I do not have a lot of time to do so. 
>My
>favorite author is Orwell, but I'll read anything well-written. I like to
>read Kierkegaard as well, and I consider him the philosopher I most 
>identify
>with.
>    Musically, I like B&S, of course. I also very much enjoy the Manic 
>Street
>Preachers, Suede (esp. the first two albums), Pulp, David Bowie, and U2,
>along with a lot of others. I like to think of all the great music that I
>have yet to hear. I have heard good things about Badly Drawn Boy, but 
>haven't
>heard anything yet...
>    I'm a fairly new B&S fan, but a strong one still. The lyrics are
>incredible. The simple melodies are almost revolutionary compared to what
>most pop music is filled with today. In most pop there is so much shite 
>that
>I think producers try to cover it up with faux strings, bouncy rhythms, 
>etc.,
>just so people don't know the truth about the junk they're listening to. 
>But
>I digress...
>
>    Talk to you soon...
>
>    Lee

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From sullen_ozma at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 16:39:36 2001
From: sullen_ozma at xxx.com (Ozma .)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 08:39:36 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Charleston, phones, SCAD, and me.
Message-ID: <F311C4BgmmwQvBECnyR00010889@hotmail.com>

On the subject of Charleston and pretty phones, here I am.
   I do not live in Charleston, NC---I'm deeply sorry, but I will have to 
miss that picnic as I live on the opposite side of the United States of 
America.  Isn't Charleston a dance?  I think I've always wanted to learn how 
to.  Also, SCAD.  it's a lovely acronym, and the school sounds interesting.  
When you mentioned all the nifty girls it caught my eye---maybe the 
nifty-ness would rub off if i journeyed to Savannah, Georgia from my plaid 
perch here in California.
   To someone who said they have a pretty new phone (i pressed delete before 
I was aware of the sender), I wish I could call and cheer you up but these 
(insert swear word here) calls cost so much money and these (insert another 
swear word) phone companies rip everyone off.  The world would be a much 
happier place, if you could just pick up the phone and dial and perhaps make 
a new friend from anywhere.  Rather than the secluded calls that take place 
these days.

they say i'm a dreamer,
-Me*
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Tue Jan  9 15:33:41 2001
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:33:41 BST
Subject: Sinister: bouncing here and there and everywhere
Message-ID: <305F7856C09@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

hello my loves,
                            i was all set to post and then i read all 
your tales of moles and busses and new year's parties and now i'm all 
confuddled, but maybe it'll come to me in a minute.

i shan't dwell on it too long, but the festive season really was 
grate, principally because nickelodeon was showing a sabrina the 
teenage witch marathon, who knew there were 97 episodes (including 
the pilot)? and being at home meant i was able to get into #sinister 
(when i typed that just then it took me ages to find the # key even 
though i knew where it was and looked in the right direction i just 
couldn't see it) and meet lovely people. yey!

 it was nice to read about everyone's new years, they sounded fun. 
mine was fun too, i just stayed in and watched telly with my boy and 
some beer. aww.

 someone mentioned a b+s gig in manchester and my jaw dropped, no 
really it did, i felt it. m-u-s-n-'-t  g-e-t  h-o-p-e-s  u-p

 has anyone else noticed the spate of charts / rockumentaries lately? 
i realise its the end / beginning of the century, millenium even, but 
still, i think i now know everything i could possibly need to about 
boney m and about dave hill from slade's haircut. grrr.

  i have a new phone, i am really overly excited about this, its so 
little and cute and lovely, its just a shame no-one ever rings me 
*sigh* 

 people to feel sorry for this week: jj72 - that guy screeching "why 
won't it snow?" like a kind of male banshee loses some, if not all of 
its effect / poignancy when you take into account that it did snow, 
just the other day and we all got cold and fell over and i was stucka 
t home for an extra two days because my dad didn't want to drive me 
over the penines. grrr.

 anyway, i have a headache and lots of revision to do. who knew that 
maths would be hard? fee raises eyebrow.

  so love and irn-bru to you all,
                                                         fiona.
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From jordiet at xxx.com  Tue Jan  9 09:51:11 2001
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 9 Jan 2001 09:51:11 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Mole and Chocolate
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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu  Tue Jan  9 04:45:58 2001
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:45:58 -0500
Subject: Sinister: The Fire in My Loins
Message-ID: <000901c079f7$198c9320$1cd590cf@wfu.edu>

Girls are weird.*

Pedro the Lion is a good band.**

I have a headache.***

SCAD girls are cute.****

love
blake

the nerdy shy eyed pacifist.
http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout



* They are really really odd.  I mean, they're so complex.  I just will
never ever ever figure them out.  Today I spent the hours with sort of an
old old friend.  Cute as a button.  I used to have such an immense crush on
her.  And guess what?  She told me that she used to have an immense crush on
me, as well!  So that led to her relinquishing the fact that after not
seeing me for two years almost to the day, that I looked "really good" and
"very cute".  And with that she licked her lips and continued to eat her ice
cream.  Of course, this led to nothing as we had to leave shortly
thereafter.  Maybe I should have mentioned that there was another girl with
us, a mutual friend, and my cute girl told me this revealing info only when
the other girl was using the lavatory.  So we had no time and now I probably
won't see her until, oh who knows?  Girls are so cruel.  Now I think all of
the time I had spent with her as a robust 15 year old was a waste.  You
know, I have this theory.  Let me digress.  I have this theory that my not
so casual string of broken hearts at the hands of evil, nasty young girls
combined with the fact that my favorite Cleveland sports teams lose every
year (some come close, none of them win) have led to a personal sense of
untrustworthiness.  That is, I find it really hard in my current state to
trust anyone or anything.  Because I've been hurt so many times.  Yes I take
my Cleveland sports that seriously.  It sounds very Nabokovian, very
Humbertish to be making such a declaration.  I am going nuts.  Girls are
cruel.  But cute too.

** I know this is a B&S list, and naturally I love them with all of my
heart, but Pedro the Lion is an outstanding unit.  I had heard before
hearing them that they were christian rock.  Now, that sounds icky, but
something can be spiritual without being dogmatic and Jerry Fallwell.  So
keep that in mind.  Just lovely music.  I really can't recommend them
enough.

*** I took two tylenol a half hour ago.  No progress yet.  Yeeeoww.

**** Today, as mentioned earlier, I spent a day with a cute girl.  I was in
Savannah, Georgia.  There is the Savannah College of Art and Design, or
SCAD.  Well, tons, and I mean, TONS, of cute girls walking in and out of
buildings.  My heart was aflutter.  I thought I saw a B&S shirt on one of
them.  I may be wrong.  Think of the possibilities though: what if it was
the Savannah College of Art and Butter?  Then it'd be SCAB.


Isn't there something Nabokovian, not only about me, but about this post?
Anyone read "Pale Fire", where the story is in the footnotes?  Hmmmmm....


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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 00:20:31 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:20:31 EST
Subject: Sinister: psss psss over here
Message-ID: <61.a4e0559.278d04cf@aol.com>

well (looking around all scared like) ok...i am back for just a while.

some of you will be pleased to know that i have recently entered therapy. 
Tourettes Anonymous, during the first meeting, has managed to work 
wonders...I haven't muttered a bad word in almost 27 hours...

TA, as us insiders like to call it, is showing me how to curb the desire to 
just randomly blurt (and type) bad words through knitting. Thats right...we 
knit!

I have only been to one meeting, but my sponsor thinks I am making remarkable 
progress. If I can just keep up the good work...I will soon learn to live a 
healthy life...and with all my knitting, a potentially lucrative one as well. 
I plan to sell my gloves and scarves on the road.

I wasn't sure what was more offensive. The cursing or the flame.

Incidentally, I enrolled myself in a few anger management courses as well. I 
have only been to one, but again, i am already a better person. While just 
yesterday...a person looked at me funny and my initial response was to go to 
their knees with a bat, but i controlled it. i controlled it...and instead of 
hitting them (while cursing them too) i walked up and planted a big, fat, 
wet, kiss right on their cheek. my group encourages that. we call it KATA 
(kiss away the anger) we spent our last meeting just kissing the whole time. 
it was wonderful. and when i say group...well, there is only me and this one 
guy in it so far...but with major multimedia...and we are prepared to spend a 
few marketing dollars...we are gonna be huge. HUGE! I tell you.

the TA and KATA have advised me that I must apologize to all of the people 
that I have done wrong (you know who you are.) 

What can I say...girl done wrong again, but girl is sorry, and girl sought 
therapy, girl wants to keep ranting on cause girl really should seek therapy, 
but girl figures sinister list is considerably less expensive. girl hopes 
other girls and boys don't mind...but if they do, girl promises to take it up 
in private and not act like the moody girl that girl really is.

Oh yeah...anyone want to join KATA? we have a introductory membership 
fee...and welcoming packet for the low, low price of 19.95.

However, TA is free.

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From popboyatlanta at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 03:20:53 2001
From: popboyatlanta at xxx.com (Popboy Atlanta)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:20:53 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Re: don't pick at your SCAD
Message-ID: <F186RGryWtIIZS2TRqf0000eb5b@hotmail.com>

hmmm, SCAD....

so one of my best friends in the world spent her college years at SCAD. and 
she's a pretty cool chiquita. anyhow, just wanted to reply, cos i enjoyed 
this sinister digest more than usual. major props to jonnyfive for coming 
out to his parents. i did that just before i left for college, and boy was 
it an exciting time. things flying around the room and breaking and getting 
all messy with tears and whatnot... but things get better, i promise. now my 
parents are really cool, and they love both me AND my lover :) and he's 
older than they are... (don't ask, you probably wouldn't want to try and 
understand anyway) but that's life. anyhow, just went record shopping 
tonight, and bought an EXCELLENT 3cd set of stuff from The Fall, whose back 
catalogue I've always avoided because it's so intimidatingly large... a good 
starter - i *LOVE* the song "totally wired"

anyhow, this is about all i have to say, but i'm not content nor do i have 
any content, so there.

cheers,
popboy

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From MyMomSays at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 05:19:24 2001
From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:19:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: (no subject)
Message-ID: <8f.54ed0cf.278d4adc@aol.com>

Sinister,
    Hi Sinister. I'm writing to you.
    Have you ever returned to somewhere familiar and found it not as 
spectacular as it used to be? 
    Example: as a kid my family and I used to frequent a mexican restaurant 
called "Casa Bonita".  This wasn't your norm of standard buritto & taco 
joints, mind you--it was like going on a mini-excursion to Mexico. 
Cliff-divers, mariachi bands, arcades, clowns; amusements at your every turn, 
fun practically bursting out the seams.
    It was nearly an all-day event to eat at Casa Bonita in those days.
    Zoom back to me--twenty years old and my friends and I decide to re-enact 
my nostalgia and return to the Casa.  Immediately the place seems like a 
restaurant where the employees ejaculate into the refried beans.  The 
employees seem livid: pit-stained, a waterfall of grease coating their faces. 
 All the workers have a faint line of brown fuzz staining their upper lips, 
even our waitress.  Shortly after consuming my cheese enchiladas I feel 
Montezuma's revenge plaguing my bowels.  
    My conclusion:  everything was better before, so go ahead and claim that 
now before before even comes about.
    I was better before.
    So were you.

My favorite thing EVER is this:  When characters in movies actually exclaim 
the word "YAY!" with glee, enunciating the word with great precision.

My friend just made a list of her favorite things. It went like this:
1. that damn butterfly
2. mandee
3. 5:00 shadows
4. cassingles
5. soccer balls
6. baseball bat
7. acne
8. motivational speakers
9. switching banks
10. pleated skirts
11. clowns
12. twins
13. midgets
14. sexy orgasm noises
15. FOIL
16. Betty White naked
17. cosby sweaters
18. drumsticks

Makes me so happy to see that I'm number 2, along with such other contestants 
as acne and Betty White posing naked. 

B&S content: I'm listening to Tigermilk as I write this.

Your Loving Friend,
Mandee Lynn Wright
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From matsu at xxx.net  Wed Jan 10 08:41:22 2001
From: matsu at xxx.net (Lila)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:41:22 -0800
Subject: Sinister: the turn of the screw
Message-ID: <000f01c07ae1$30448100$0101a8c0@pavilion>

Sinister,
    I'm one of those notorious list lurkers, but I've decided to come out
here in the sunlight for a while, because it seems to be a trend these days
and I have some questions I'd like to have answered.
    Today's topic is: being overwhelmed.  Not to overwhelm, because that's
way harder than to be overwhelmed.  This topic is not set in stone, mind
you, and I'll meander into other subjects and may also mention B+S, for
those of you who like square pegs to fit into square holes.
    I am constantly overhwhelmed.  I don't know if this is because I'm a
coward, or because I have a naive way of looking at things.  You know,
unseasoned eyes or something.  For instance I am overwhelmed  by the number
of people out there that I haven't met yet, the number of good books and
music I haven't appreciated yet, the places I haven't been to. But these are
temporary feelings that come and go.  What I think about are the different
possibilities in life.  I could be any person as of now, being young.  Who
to be? I end up choosing one path, and I guess that's alright. But I think
of all the other paths, and that is what makes me melancholy, a little bit
at least.  I know for certain I can't be specific things, such as a member
of royalty, and I can't be the president of the united states because I
wasn't born in the states.  Genes and fate have stopped me from these
things.  I can never have a bigger chest, for example. ha. naturally. My
mother says, quite seriously, that a lot of Japanese people like ourselves
don't have large chests because in the not-so olden times, Japanese women
would bind their chests very tightly in order to don a kimono.  What I want
to know is: what does it feel like to be truly beautiful?  I know
"beautiful" can be defined in so many ways, but pretend you know what I
mean. Don't worry abot feeling narcissitic. I'd like some input.
    Did you know that tonight is a full moon?   I saw it as I walked to
orchestra today.  I remembered the folktales about the rabbits that live on
the moon, and if you squint you can kind of make one out, a silhouette.
There are a lot of folktales I know about the moon.  My father says that
these tales are really true stories about alien encounters.
    I think this list is great. It makes me feel a little less overwhelmed
(#6 in this post) to read about other people's lives and know I've gained a
little more knowledge and insight.. (I think).  Randomly commenting on some
recent posts..  Blake, I think boys are weird.  Boys are much crueler than
girls, at least in high school.  It's Boys 1, Girls 0 all the time, on the
cruelty scale. Some are rather nice and cool, but some in my class are just
mean and poke fun at my B+S shirts.  Isabel,  isn't knitting fun?  It's the
cla-cla sound of the needle hitting needle which strikes me the most.
    Time for me to go.  shout-outs! to miles and eric and other people I
bother occasionally.  Have any of you heard the music of Floating Opera?
sweet gosh, they are good.
By Lila
.. lee + la





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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 10:30:49 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:30:49 EST
Subject: Sinister: in a good way
Message-ID: <97.fa5caed.278d93d9@aol.com>

I am in a great way today...I feel good, I feel like a brian jonestown 
massacre song or something. whatever the human equivalent is to a BJM song is 
what I feel like. For the first day in a month...Actually, it came about 
around November. But today feels a little better, and I woke up feeling 
better and for the  first time in nearly two months I realize that I am going 
to get better for the first time in nearly two months.

The hard part is always waking up. And I did remarkably well at that this 
morning. I didnt even hit snooze my standard 8-9 times...I didn't hit it at 
all. And I will tell you what else, if I wasn't nearly 30 I would go out and 
join the cheerleaders...thought I am not really into jocks...and I think 
banging them is a prerequisite or something. Anyway, moving on...cause if I 
start disecting that mentality it will just bring me down.

I hadnt realized that honey was a he, honey was referred to as "he"
in a recent mail... with a sweet name like "honey" and i agree the boys are 
always 1 to 0 with us...i just figured honey as a girl. maybe honey is a 
girl? in the whole big scheme of things it doesnt matter, especially to 
me...i fight for the hemopradites (sp) anyway...and we hardly ever get 
figured  into the war at all.

but i am not going to rant on about that either...it will only depress me.

i am up so early this morning...i am going to stop in for coffee at this 
little place near by...i never get to do this as i am always running 
late....but not today. anyway, there is this girl...and she has a crush on 
me...and she always makes my order so sweetly. and i dont have the nerve to 
tell her that i am not that sweet. i fear that she will stop giving me such 
great service. she makes the smallest small talk...and i could like her for 
that...but rats. i like boys for the most part. the irony of it is this...if 
there is such a thing as soul mates and that sorta jazz, then mine is 
probably a girl...and it would be ok. but i dont even believe in those 
soulful things anyway, so anyway.

i think like a boy most of the time. and i do indeed flirt with this counter 
girl...but i flirt with everyone...i like to think of myself as an equal 
opportunity flirter. however, i dont think i am gay...and i guess by my age 
one would begin to know...though i dont think anything is wrong with it, it 
just doesnt float my boat or whatever. so, why do i flirt with this girl that 
probably thinks i am about girls? you got me.

i cant think to much about this either, its just going to make me overanalyze 
the issue.

by the way, per my last rant...i am waiving the introductory fee of 19.95 for 
anyone that wants to join KATA. we are a very cutting edge group...its not 
for everyone...only an elite few (convincing you through reverse psychology, 
i am.) both girls and boys are welcomed.

i used to live next door to aretha franklins brother...i saw her in his back 
yard once. i said "hi aretha" and she waved. a clever moment all in all.

no new CD's to mention...but I have been listening to IYFS on repeat lately. 
except at work, where i am listening to my very own "best of b and s mix 
deluxe"

i have never heard the gentle waves. thoughts? suggestions?

before i forget, why do people think matador sucks? especially when there are 
so many things out there that genuinely do. it just seems odd that people 
would think that out loud. have they done something horribly wrong? i never 
read up on that sort of thing...i just buy music...and i know a lot of music 
that wouldnt be available to me outside of matador...so i am rather thankful. 
but i would still like to know about that loud mouthed girl in someones post 
saying "fuck matador" (hee hee) hmmmm...anyway.

well, i need to shower and look presentable. ah. life of the working class.

have a great day. i think i will too.

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From AWillia at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 12:06:50 2001
From: AWillia at xxx.com (Andrew Williams (UKHQ - Merch))
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:06:50 -0500
Subject: Sinister: in a good way
Message-ID: <CA52872BEA6FD41182A50008C724B2300C8268@CORP01UK>

Isabel said:

"...I am not really into jocks...and I think 
banging them is a prerequisite or something. "

och lassie! ye dinnae ken the fun yir missing...

(spoke in a Groundskeeper Willie kinda voice)

sorry, that joke was rubbish, oh well...

Andrew, listening to the Verlaines, pretending to work.
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 14:26:07 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:26:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Whats the cure?
Message-ID: <20010110142607.20766.qmail@web617.mail.yahoo.com>

... for hiccups? I have a bad case of them. Grr.

Anyway, on with the news and gossip.

Hello to new postee Lee Vowell who has undescribably
alright taste in music.

"Musically, I like B&S, of course. I also very much
enjoy the Manic Street Preachers, Suede (esp. the
first two albums), Pulp, David Bowie, and U2,
along with a lot of others. I like to think of all the
great music that I have yet to hear. I have heard good
things about Badly Drawn Boy, but haven't
heard anything yet..."

Totally agree with you on Suede, their first two
albums are ace. I didn't think much of their later
pieces of offerings. But words fail me when you say
Manic Street Preachers. Okay, okay, so I have the Holy
Bible. And its got some good songs that take me back
to my teenagehood where I liked something I could feel
stroppy in time to. But they are still pants.

Chris meanwhile, said:

"I just remembered (sorry it's so late) -  For those
of you who get 
Scottish 
Television (BBC3) there's a program on at half ten
tonight called "The 
Point" and I believe it has an interview Mick Cooke
who is talking 
about the 
Electric City thing in Glasgow.  Sorry it's such late
notice!  s o r r 
y.

I hope you are all doing just fine"

Same to you too Chris.

Yeah, saw that. Mick was muttering something about
teenage fanclub, and the 13th note, and the shoes on
the dummy in the B+S shrine not being his... but
Stuarts instead. Maybe his fake snakeskin red
stilletoes in size 13 really wouldn't fit. But you
know what they say about men with big feet.

Big socks.
And big socks means big feet.
and so on and so forth. I bet Mick was just starting
rumours about the size of his feet doing that.


Yeah, I caught it on telly last night, after my dad
went to bed in a strop with me, cos I got the TV
control and started doing my usual hobby of channel
flicking.

And then it came on. Apparently, theres like this
music exhibition thing in glasgow at the lighthouse,
covering all sorts of bands from 1957 to the year
2000. Including Pastels, Delagados, BMX bandits and a
whole host of decent bands. (Mogwai too, I hope!!) Oh,
and some band nobodys heard of have a wee bit there
too, with a blown up copy of the Sun after the Brits
back in 99 with two dummies wearing two band members
clothes and some other blokes shoes.

Its on til the 25th of February, at The Lighthouse.

I didn't make special notes of remembering that, but I
do sometimes remember the most incredible facts that
have no bearing on daily life whatsoever.

So far giving up going to the hairdressers is going
darn well. I've not been now since December 1st. Its
looking okay, I'm flicking it out a bit, and it looks
good when I try to apply my eyeliner Sophie Loren
style and wear the lovely wee heart shaped amethyst
choker my boyfriend bought me.

Took my wee brother shopping yesterday. Managed to get
him to buy stuff from Flip and Cult Clothing, alothugh
he did relapse and insist on going into Next as well.
I meanwhile, went and got a Curtis Mayfield CD, its
been bothering me for about a week now, cos it was
only three squid in Fopp. And I remember nicking my
pals Curtis Mayfield CD years ago and loving it. So,
thats my recommendation of the week. No, not nicking
peoples CDs. Go out and buy some Curtis Mayfield into
your life.


So thats all now. So what do you think of Curtis
Mayfield then? huh? And do you agree that Sophie Loren
eyeliner is the way to go for 2001? (I'm doing it dark
grey for that smokey look.) And has anyone else got
any success stories like me, about where their mum
gives birth to the wrong child (your sibling) and then
only when they reach adulthood, can you make them do
the things you tried to manipulate them to do for so
much of your life as a sibling?


enough!

Idles.






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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 17:38:53 2001
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:38:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: " the whole album is pepperd with spastic magic "
Message-ID: <20010110173853.3718.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com>

hello..
...just a quick one...is anyone else having trouble
getting into #sinister?..because i'm buggered if i
can...help? tea? sympathy?....er....thats it.....
...ta ta!...

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From ruvi at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 17:58:22 2001
From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:58:22 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The joke is at the end.
Message-ID: <002901c07b2e$edff0880$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk>

When considering how I could make my grand entrance on the Sinister list I
imagined myself writing in various ways, casting myself in a myriad of
different lights. Before actually committing the act, you see, I had the
option of being anyone. I could represent myself as a giddy, light-hearted
soul or a debauched individual or a depressed misanthrope. And yet, once I
have set out on my course, once I have made that first contact and the deed
is done, my options vanish. All of which, I think, was intended to
illustrate the problems with communication, or perhaps the problems of self
image, or even the multi-faceted, changeability of the human nature.
Regardless, I could wait forever for the perfect moment when my personality
could be defined and set in stone, but it would never come. So I shall make
do with my current mood and, at the moment, I am thinking of churches.

I am not a religious person; I am thinking of churches because they are
solemn, gloomy places, increasingly neglected by society but still remaining
in the paces they have inhabited for centuries, lonely and brooding yet not
without a certain dignity in their quiet repose. At this moment in time,
they seem to symbolise my mood, and I would rather like to be standing in
one. Or, rather, walking. Disturbing the dusty air with the clack of my
shoes on the cold stone floor and gazing upon the statues and relics from
times long forgotten. I am also thinking of Cemetery Gates by the Smiths.
Wilde used to be on my side, too, but somehow he defected.

And all of these things spring to mind because, currently, I am
discontented. Adrift, in fact. If you will be so kind as to indulge the
reason for this, I will happily tell all, although there is not really much
to tell. Today I was rejected from the university I applied to, and thus all
the beautiful castles in the air my vanity and imagination had erected with
such love and care have been shattered, have vanished leaving a yawning
chasm over the next three years which I shudder to think of how to fill. The
fact is, I know how to fill it really, but the challenge makes part of me
want to just curl up in bed and never get out again, to hide from all the
trials and difficulties that may visit upon us in life. Beds and sleep are
safe, warm and undemanding. Yet what I really hope is that the desire to
forge on and face the challenge will prevail. It remains to be seen which
side will win.

I hope I'm not boring anyone who is reading this rather lengthy splurge of
writing; in the future, perhaps, I will write short, glittering pieces,
though that may have to wait until the daffodils begin to blossom and the
birds return from their winter retreats to brighten the days with song. At
the moment all I feel is disinterest which is, I think, the very worst
emotion of all. It is the most distressing thing in the world to look up at
the moon or over a sleeping city and not feel the slightest stirring of
emotion or interest, as if all the joys of life have fallen asleep and won't
be woken up.

But perhaps it will all turn out well. The dawn is beginning to break, and
even though I can only see a tiny patch of lightening sky from my window,
that is enough. I haven't witnessed a dawn for many weeks, and its return to
me, or rather my return to it, since it didn't go anywhere, is like that of
a long lost friend. A long lost friend who, like the churches, is filled
with symbolic importance that mankind has created in tribute over the short
centuries. Unlike the churches, though, it is a symbol of hope, choices and
optimism, of the cycle of nature and of timeless beauties. Maybe it is
telling me something, or at least reminding me. I should take my own advice;
humans are changeable, and disinterest today can be joy tomorrow.

So I've tried to end as positively as I can, and it isn't insincere. I
believe, I really do. And if one believes hard enough in oneself and in the
fact that life is beautiful, surely, eventually, the belief and the wish for
relief will come true? Or so I hope. Hope, and keep believing. That's what
I'll do. In the meantime, I will continue to read and enjoy the various and
varied e-mails that swell my inbox (what horrible, utilitarian words they
are that pertain to computers!), and keep my fingers crossed that dawns
break in the human spirit just as much as in the sky. Before I finish
entirely, I have a question which I hope someone can answer for me (if
indeed anyone has lasted this far). I have been considering volunteering to
teach English in a foreign country (China, India, Russia and Nepal were the
places I have been thinking of), and I wondered if anyone has had experience
with this. If they have, and could tell me anything at all about it that may
be relevant, I would be grateful.

Ruvi.

PS. I would like to assure everyone that I do like Belle and Sebastian quite
a lot, despite not having once alluding to them in this post.

PPS. Just to balance the morose content of this post, I would like to
include a joke:

Why does a vampire take his medicine?

To improve his coffin.

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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 03:48:27 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:48:27 -0800
Subject: Sinister: there's always somebody saying something
Message-ID: <002f01c07b81$84684f00$5e9501d5@aqlzosqt>

oh look, archel's back. half of you have no idea of the world-shaking
significance of that, do you? and the other half are perhaps going 'archel?
yeah, that sounds a bit familiar. interested in poetry, knits scarves (but
then that applies to many sinibods it seems), never liked her much to tell
you the truth.'

oh well,  i'm here anyway, all pootered up and ready to go wherever the
sinister lurve train is headed in 2001.

i seem to have avoided glasgow on the one year when everyone else was there.
instead i spent xmas and new year down in brighton; my presents included an
embarrassing amount of bagpuss merchandise, some truly massive tea mugs, and
a scottish bloke with a cold (upon whom i therefore got to inflict twee
knitwear of my choice, so it wasn't all bad.) we spent hours, or it may have
been days, in an improvised igloo in my absurdly cold house getting through
audrey hepburn and hitchcock box sets. and eating chocolate. also i finished
knitting my latest scarf.

now i am back at work and as overcome with ennui as everyone else. oh, and i
will never forgive jeepster for forcing me to buy (i can hardly say the
words) a christmas album. not buying christmas albums is one of the
fundamental principles by which i live my life.

meanwhile other people talked.

Isabel wrote:
>The older I get the more I see that other people hold one special person in
a
>very high regard. Not to say that anyone that comes along after isn't
>worthy...but you have to consider too that someone is holding that person
in
>the same regard that youre holding your person...and no one is getting
>anywhere.
and she is indeed a wise woman. i am in a bizarre love triangle with my two
best friends, a romantic unit as of a few weeks ago, one of whom happens to
be my First Love (and as you know i do not use upper case lightly), and the
other of whom is my housemate. so it's not like i can avoid seeing them
together. adolescent green eyed monsters are holding rowdy parties in my
soul, despite (and in no way threatening - just in case our mutual friends
get worried) the beloved scottish bloke.  i wish there was a b&s song about
my angst, but i can't find one (answers on a postcard...) i fear it's more a
job for hefner. or cinerama. or pulp. or, god forbid, coldplay.

on a less crap note, i wanted to mention that i still have a
poetry/fiction/reviews webzine (see below) just waiting for submissions.
it's really good. and it's sponsored by ally cook (well practically.) and
reading some of your posts there is talent there just waiting to be
tapped... diseased talent, but still talent.

big hugs to all my old sinifriends and everyone else who i've yet to
discover is a gorgeous, fascinating person.

archel xxx

ps: idleberry wrote:
>the Camp Belle and Sebastian
and i laughed.

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From ettirgam at xxx.com  Wed Jan 10 21:21:33 2001
From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:21:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: someone keeps moving my chair
Message-ID: <20010110212133.20863.qmail@web2306.mail.yahoo.com>

i just decided to reemerge from hibernation.  fatigue
and work have kept me locked away, and then there is
the matter of my life slowly going to hell, but i
think that is under control for the moment.

anyway, i realized this weekend, that a guy might be
tall, but that doesn't mean i will like him.  he might
even love monty python and think belle and sebastian
is a fabulous band, but that just isn't enough.  i
probably would have given him more of a chance if i
liked his hair or at least saw potential.  i don't
know what it is, i think i like shaggy or curly hair
on guys.  i think the curly has to do with my desire
to guarantee that my children have curly hair.  i
don't know if i could ever help a girl with straight
hair.  i don't know what to do with it, not that i
have brilliant ideas for curly hair, but at least i
know what not to do with curly hair.

there are of course other qualities that i appear to
look for, but the hardest one to define is the
non-wussy quality.  my personal ad would probably read
something like this: "SWF searching for tall, reserved
gentleman with a strong handshake.  Hair must be
shaggy or curly.  Well-defined opinions and ability to
defend them a must.  Preferably unmarried.  Must be
able to accept that I have a strange fondness for
Britney Spears, and unbreakable love for Belle and
Sebastian.  Cannot be fan of Creed."

seems rather demanding, but i am so tired of meeting
boys who pose as men and realizing that they just
could never get me excited over anything.  it's so
draining.  the worst part of all of this is that
someone does exist that fits these standards, he just
happens to be married.  and with my long standing
decision never to break up a marriage, i just have to
wait close by for the marriage to self-destruct.  what
is even worse is that he probably like country-western
music and would actually watch the country music
awards and be ecstatic that faith hill has invaded
american pop.  i should be more accepting, i know, but
for my sanity, i think i shall maintain the no country
music thing.  last thing i want is an affair with a
married man.  that isn't true, but with my morals in
hand, i am going to avoid such an affair at all costs.

and what does any of this have to do with belle and
sebastian, minus the random mentions above?  i blame
the thing i have for the married man on belle and
sebastian.  or maybe it is correct to blame pulp, as
jarvis keeps singing about infidelity.  i wonder if
jarvis really believes what he sings.  i can imagine
him as this tragic figure unable to find love because
the world believes him to be someone he is not...but
anyway, i am blaming belle and sebastian.  i believe
that the fact that "this is just a modern rock song"
and "slow graffiti" get stuck in my head near the
married man means something.  i don't know what, but
it seems rather cosmic, sort of.  what else can i
blame it on?

i am going to have to lock myself up again in my
apartment and crochet for a week to get myself back. 
crocheting really is the only thing that can
completely soothe me.  and i love the fact that when
you crochet you use a crochet hook, when crochet
already means hook, which is why i call it a needle.

onward, onward.  i must finish two reports before i go
back down the hill to my normal place of employment. 
i like it up here, though.  i have a nice sliding
glass door which makes me feel better than the solid
door in my other office.  maybe this office was
designed by someone who believed in feng shui.  i
recently learned from a feng shui website that i am
apparently a water person born in a normally earth
year, so i guess that makes me water-earth?  anyway,
if anyone knows what that means, i would really like
to know.

and on that note i depart and shall try to find solace
is music other than belle and sebastian, because they
only remind me of what i cannot have in this office.

marikka.


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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 01:57:41 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:57:41 EST
Subject: Sinister: help!
Message-ID: <38.107949c8.278e6d15@aol.com>

i am trying like mad to get into #sinister...and sometimes i think i am 
there, but then i am the only one. is it possible that i am the only one? 
someone tell me what i am doing wrong please. thanks

incidentally, i am feeling the weight of the world on my SHOULDERS. hmmm.
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From jordiet at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 11:08:45 2001
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:08:45 +0000
Subject: Sinister: I know it´s childish, but it´s funny......(votew for B&S !!)
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From pants at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 13:06:20 2001
From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:06:20 -0800
Subject: Sinister: zoom!
In-Reply-To: <002f01c07b81$84684f00$5e9501d5@aqlzosqt>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010111050408.0221b010@shell12.ba.best.com>

from lurking to a quick question:

i'm moving to london in a month.  what's the best way
to get fast net access at home?  is dsl or cable modem
available?  i'm looking for tips/costs...

please email me off list since i know this isn't a
true b&s related q.  (however, may you all forgive me
since it will be the way i access this list... ;-) )

grazie mille,
senor droolcup

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 11 16:51:11 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:51:11 -0000
Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Higher doorways! When do we want them? Now!
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775434@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

OK, all this talk about Tall Gits today, well that's my department really...

------------
 Maybe his fake snakeskin red
stilletoes in size 13 really wouldn't fit. But you
know what they say about men with big feet.

Big socks.
And big socks means big feet.
and so on and so forth. I bet Mick was just starting
rumours about the size of his feet doing that.
------------

Don't believe it, kids. Just because I take Size 13, doesn't mean anything.
My socks are way too small for me.


And other people have been at it as well:

------------
anyway, i realized this weekend, that a guy might be
tall, but that doesn't mean i will like him.
------------

Now, I just can't be having with all this stereotyping. I would like to make
it perfectly clear that us tall folk are no different from the rest of you.
If anything, we're less likeable. Or maybe that's just me.

We demand fair treatment for the vertically advantaged.

And an end to jokes about 'what's the weather like up there then?'.


Why does everyone keep fretting about their lack of B&S content at the
moment? Check the archives - this list has always been less about the band,
and more about various music-lovers' lovelives...


And finally (to the relief of everyone who hasn't already skipped this
message and moved on to the next one), a bit of flagrant list abuse - I'm
down in grimy old London town for the next few days, is their anything
worthwhile going on this weekend?

Big Stu


PS Nice to have you back, Archel...
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 17:31:43 2001
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:31:43 EST
Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Higher doorways! When do we want them? Now!
Message-ID: <bd.abc291f.278f47ff@aol.com>

Stuart said:

<< Now, I just can't be having with all this stereotyping. I would like to 
make
 it perfectly clear that us tall folk are no different from the rest of you.
 If anything, we're less likeable. Or maybe that's just me. >>

I'm not exactly sure what constitutes tall, but I'll opine anyway.  I rather 
like being vaguely tall (I'm 6'2") and I've yet to find a disadvantage.  Just 
the other day I went bowling with two female friends and recieved awed gazes 
when I asked for my trusty Size 13s.  In an odd way, its very flattering.  
And its nice to be picked first for the basketball team simply because 
genetics have you given you a slight upper-hand (even if you're still shite, 
like myself).  Plus the best girls go for the tall, skinny guys...right?
Well, I guess the main downside is shopping for clothes, especially when you 
have long arms.  We're forced to buy shirts because they'll fit our arms, but 
then they usually hang down to our knees...or we buy a nice fitting shirt 
only to find that everytime we bend at the elbow it becomes a short-sleeve.  
Pants are tricky too sometimes.  Oh well...

Steve C.
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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 18:41:54 2001
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:41:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  Faggy but nice
Message-ID: <20010111184154.23528.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com>

Lawks!  Full moons make me feel funny.  Eclipses do even worse things.  I
don't feel natural.  I think I'll start my post with some toilet humour.

When nerdy Blake wrote 

> Savannah College of Art and Design, or
> SCAD....Think of the possibilities though: what if it
> was
> the Savannah College of Art and Butter?  Then it'd be SCAB.

I thought, what if it was the Savannah College of Art and Technology? 
That would be even better!  Then you could have said > SCAT girls are
cute.****  

Then, IsabelLark put

> I hadnt realized that honey was a he, honey was referred to as "he"
> in a recent mail... with a sweet name like "honey" and i agree the boys
> are 
> always 1 to 0 with us...i just figured honey as a girl. maybe honey is a
> 
> girl? 

But she is!  She's an amazonian goddess and a coy debutante rolled into
one.  A mother in the kitchen and...  Well, if you can imagine her
reaction to

> me...i fight for the hemopradites 

you'll understand what she's like when she shrugs off her maternal
crocheted shawl.  Oh look, now I've made her blush.

Idleberry said

> Mick was muttering something about
> teenage fanclub, and the 13th note, and the shoes on
> the dummy in the B+S shrine not being his...

I *knew* it!  I took one look at those shoes and thought that there could
not be even a teeny weeny chance that they belonged to Mick Cooke. 
They're like Start-rites - very comfy-looking with T-bars and a big,
sensible buckle.  If you're going to be in Glasgow before the end of
February, it's definitely worth popping into the Lighthouse to have a peek
at the famous footwear yourself.  The rest of the exhibition isn't too bad
either, although it's a bit heavy on posters and flyers and a bit light on
explanations.  They've got some nice videos and you can sit and watch them
with headphones on, feeling ever so slightly self-conscious.  You can also
make your eyes go funny looking at the shiny patterns on the floor and at
pictures of Edwyn Collins as a lad.

> Pants are tricky too sometimes
spouted Steve C Walkn

Bras are a bit tricky as well, aren't they?  Why is it that some blokes
can unhook a bra with one hand in the blink of an eye, while others have a
good old fumble and get nowhere?*  Is it a special knack that's passed on
in a father-to-son ritual?  Does it take much practice?  Is it something
you're born with?  Is there such a thing as a natural bra-unhooker?  I was
just wondering, like.

Juicy Lucy



*Disclaimer:  This is just something I heard.  I'm not *that* sort of
girl, obviously.

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From shiplore at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 19:11:00 2001
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:11:00 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Faggy but nice
Message-ID: <F21833IZVw03y59BH5E00016f0a@hotmail.com>

Out of temporary lurkerdom. (at the behest of lovely Laura Llew)

in time to be crass

but Juicy Lucy's post for some reason made me thing of Lisa Morrison (aka 
ListDom aka the girl most straight boys and gay girls on sinister want to 
get to know or tGMSBaGGoSWtGtK)
who would obviously be in agreement  when i respond to this.. by saying. 
well. If you're not hurling that particular garment off in the peak of 
passion you shouldn't be messing in that sort of stuff.
I've never met a girl that wouldnt sacrfice a perfectly good bra for 
excitement of having it passionately ripped off. But maybe that's just the 
girls I've known ;)

but if you're my imaginary sister or imaginary daughter stay away from boys 
who can do it with one hand while smoking a cig.

damn there must be something about these boston winters that builds up the 
randiness. I haven't posted in ages and this is what  icome up with. I blame 
lisa for firmly planting my mind in the gutter.

Oh. I am going to hawaii at the end of may/ beginning of june. That's the 
big news in my world. a wedding that has to be attended. the things I do for 
my friends...ah..woe is me.

Oh2. my little librarian vixen from texas and I met up over new years. that 
went very well. She's VERY cool as well as beautiful (and she's not a 
sinisterine so I'm not kissing ass..er.. arse. )
I'm going to texas next weekend to see her and we'll see if it's worth 
pursuing the dreaded long distance relationship.
texas scares me. I'm from the liberal bastion of Massachusettes and they 
kill lots of people in texas I'm afraid of the mandatory 10 years in prision 
for jaywalking sentence.... and have armed escaped murderers and rapists 
roaming the countryside. but it's worth the risk. ah the things you do for 
the opposite sex.

Well I guess that saying should be updated to ah the things you do for the 
sex you're attracted to.
since we've recently had some OUT announcements. Good for you. It takes 
serious cajones in our culture to admit to something that's not a majority 
thing. i send you mad props and respect.


okay before I sound anymore like Hunter S. Thompson.

Fear and loathing thinking about texas.
dammit.
jb

>
>Bras are a bit tricky as well, aren't they?  Why is it that some blokes
>can unhook a bra with one hand in the blink of an eye, while others have a
>good old fumble and get nowhere?*  Is it a special knack that's passed on
>in a father-to-son ritual?  Does it take much practice?  Is it something
>you're born with?  Is there such a thing as a natural bra-unhooker?  I was
>just wondering, like.
>

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From room_30 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 19:05:23 2001
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:05:23 -0000
Subject: Sinister: B&S sheet music needed
Message-ID: <F188zAJ95sZKxt8zPdq00006072@hotmail.com>

ok, it's request time
could anybody help me out

i am a music student and for one of our projects we have been asked to  
choose a song and sequence it into the computer.  well, i have my eye set on 
'get me away from here...' by our very own belle and sebastian and i need to 
get hold of the sheet music from somewhere (note: it must be the sheet 
music, guitar tab won't do and i already have that from the OLGA) i have 
tries numerous searches on the internet for a shop with it in stock but 
every site says 'search results: zero'.  it's not really too urgent but if 
anybody has seen a music book of IYFS in a shop near them i could pay them 
for the book and postage if they got it for me, of course mail me privately 
if anybody can help and if anybody can get any B&S sheet music at all it 
would be much appreciated.
cheers in advance (fingers crossed)

see you all soon (and i mean you *all*)
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From carmellie at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 20:42:13 2001
From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:42:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: I know it´s childish, but it´s funny......(votew for B&S !!)
Message-ID: <20010111204213.55080.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
 I haven't written for quite some time and I bet no one
knows who I am.  I went to the "polls" and voted for B&S
and was quite pleasantly surprised to see that they were
in the lead with over 28% of the vote...pretty cool.  
 No news now, so I'll keep it short.

Have a lovely day,
Carmel


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From carle at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 22:56:28 2001
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:56:28 -0500
Subject: Sinister: re: lurking, or "to post or not to post"
Message-ID: <3A5E39FD.28DB25B6@rcn.com>

having spent the better part of the last three days going over the scads
of posts, and then Isabel Lark makes this point:

I wondered about some of the posts that I have been reading lately. Some
very 
good (you know who you are) some not so good (you don't.) but always the
fear 
that you're offending someone or bothering someone...or too shy to do 
anything but lurk. I don't especially understand that. The wonderful
thing 
about this is that it doesn't matter. We all have a simpatico (the list 
itself, music, movies) so where is the fear? We are virtually
friends...and 
even more importantly no one knows who you are, unless, of course, you
have 
told them, but chances are they liked you, eh?

and then, after what seems like a century (well, it was last century) i
find a copy of stuart david's "ink polaroids"! and never having the
deuce of an idea what the listees were jazzing on about when i 1st
entered, i do now. (yes, i know. how could i have it and not know it? my
only excuse was that i filed it in the wrong place when i got IYFS. i
lead a confused life.) and there was number five.
"here's chris outside the studio, on the night we finished the first
album. it's quite dark, but you can still see the marks on his face the
tears have left--from where he was crying inside. (paragraph) i asked
him for why he'd been crying and he just said, 'because i've never done
anything proper before. but i don't know if that means my life's been
really shit up until this point, or if this is really good.'"

and it occurs to me that this vulnerability is what i so much enjoy
about the virtual bar-cafe we have here. and yes, how beauty or honesty
or truth or something can hit you so hard that you don't know why,
except that this moment will define the world as BEFORE THIS and AFTER
THAT, and that, just perhaps, the more sensitive (ok. "twee") can
appreciate this while... well, it seems that some people can have peak
moments in their lives and not know it for ten or twenty years after.

but i digress.

having worked with editors, i can tell you that rejection is a bitch,
constructive criticism hard to take, and being ignored is the worst.

but--HEY! who am i to care if you hit delete the second the heading came
up? doesn't cost me anything and might help or amuse you, right?

so what else are we going to do until the next album, or (gasp!) tour?
carle
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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Jan 11 22:11:55 2001
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:11:55 -0000
Subject: Sinister: an east-coast sinner
Message-ID: <F195nLOyDc41W2ufyWO000012bb@hotmail.com>

its been all about dirty dreams and
vibrating packages in the mail this week.
but when yr a girl like *that* (in contrast to juicylucy whose
NOT like *that*) you can never get enought of midnight sweatings
and going top-less-on-the-sheets fantasies...
as far as i go (and "aye aye captian jeff burke" for this assumption)
and as far as bras go, with their boosting and cupping, its when
yr lover can't even bother with new-fangled clasps and things and you've 
other things to worry about than the one-half-in one-half-out that's going 
on so poor victoria's secret winds up half in shreds bedside...

and on smiliar notes, braless is even better...like me all comfortable
and casual the last two days at jessica-kat's house engrosed in
reliving the silent film era for twenty four hours straight with a shitty 
vidoe camera and no means of editting...
we were costume dressing and i've grown increasingly casual, along with
jeans and sweater attire...so jess kat sits on bed with smoke in hand and 
watches as i pull off my sweater to reveal no-bras-barred breasts...
and she thinks i'm cute as hell anyhow, and she's gawking
and i want to say "jessica, doll...yr gawking..."
but i don't deciding to spare her dignity...
i'm a rather "nice" girl.

consider these but comments from my peanut gallery.
-(selfappointed) listdomlisa
     calling all girls who have been abused...
                                                            more
                                                   champagne please, and
                                                could you point me in
                                              the direction of the
                                             stuffed portabellos...?


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From ava60 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 12 12:50:33 2001
From: ava60 at xxx.com (Ava Arsaga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:50:33 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F21eUJt3qLw2UggLHWb00012036@hotmail.com>

Hi again to everyone...Blake, no, im not from Fayetteville, NC sadly...im 
from Fayetteville, Ar...so it goes...it would've been nice...anyway,
  I was just thinking. And i continued to think until i was donee, and my 
conclusion was that i want to be pen pals with some one..or ones...Its one 
thing to check your e-mail and receive twenty-odd messages sent not 
specifically to me...but its quite another thing to check your mail box and 
find a letter in a cute litte envelope that is addressed solely for 
you...so...if anyone here wants to me my pen pal...dont hesitate...it could 
really be a wonderful experience..itll be a devoted pen pal...now why 
wouldn't you make an effort...alright...i guess thats enough of that...
   I just finished a wonderful little book called "Never Cry Wolf" by Farley 
Mowat. Its about this man who goes to study a wolf family for the Canadian 
government because they think that the wolves are killing all ther 
caribou....oh its wonderful..i do very much suggest it to all. It's short so 
it won't take up too much of your time.  I read it in two days.
   Well, somebody or everybody email me about that pen pal idea...it'll be 
great....

Take Care,
Ava
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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Fri Jan 12 13:49:30 2001
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:49:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: What do we want?  Lower shelves!  
Message-ID: <20010112134930.8582.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com>

Stuart wanted:

"an end to jokes about 'what's the weather like up
there then?'." 

An Underworld cartoon (by Kaz in 'Cruel and Unusual
Humour') featured a tall bloke who was teased with
that very question.  His response was to gob on his
tormentor and say "It's raining".

But being only 5'5" I find it hard to have sympathy
with the higher altitude dwellers.  Some of us never
actually see bands at gigs while human periscopes get
an first-class view.  It's almost impossible to find
trousers or long-sleeve shirts that fit and don't get
me started about trying to reach the 'gentleman's
periodicals' in the newsagents - oops better shut up
now...

Robster

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From Matthew.Rose at xxx.com  Fri Jan 12 14:16:21 2001
From: Matthew.Rose at xxx.com (Rose, Matthew (Expl))
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:16:21 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Earplugs Changed My Life 
Message-ID: <7137C15D47B8D211806A0008C71EA5DD33CD49@EXPBRIEXCH01>

My tall friend gets a savage blasting at gigs, whereas us smaller folk can
enjoy a variety of muffled levels plus we are able look at peoples feet and
the strange things that get dropped.   
He wears earplugs now. I shall be thinking of you all at Track and Field
tonight you beautiful
things.

matt rose
The Quiet Club 
Bristol 


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From: Robert Brennan [mailto:rob_brennan at xxx.uk]
Sent: 12 January 2001 13:50
To: sinister at missprint.org
Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Lower shelves! 


Stuart wanted:

"an end to jokes about 'what's the weather like up
there then?'." 

An Underworld cartoon (by Kaz in 'Cruel and Unusual
Humour') featured a tall bloke who was teased with
that very question.  His response was to gob on his
tormentor and say "It's raining".

But being only 5'5" I find it hard to have sympathy
with the higher altitude dwellers.  Some of us never
actually see bands at gigs while human periscopes get
an first-class view.  It's almost impossible to find
trousers or long-sleeve shirts that fit and don't get
me started about trying to reach the 'gentleman's
periodicals' in the newsagents - oops better shut up
now...

Robster

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From allycook96 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 12 16:22:02 2001
From: allycook96 at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:22:02 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Bridges thronging with these ribboned souls; one day they won't remember you...
Message-ID: <F47y93SFXchAJXei7jL0000063a@hotmail.com>

So that was that. 2000. Shiraz Cabernet Sauvignon. Mulberries. A good year, 
in other words. And this is something else, a new century. But before we 
look ahead, it's time for reflection. Unless you happen to be a vampire, of 
course. Garlic! Ha ha ha, don't worry.

So what did we see? Well, in January we danced the night away and slowed the 
clock down like whirling dervishes, or superman. With tiger ears. In April 
we dreamed of England, then realised we were there, then thought we might 
just be in Poland, and ended up on the beach like Neil, like Kirsty's boy. 
We gained some heroes and some enemies, both of which were a lot of fun. You 
can read about it somewhere. Kevan, where art thou?

In May we were troubled, but not so much that we couldn't dance. Jane gave 
us a semi-religious experience, tears at Bowlie, before bedtime. I'm 
thinking of 126. Or was it 630? Whatever. The week never ends round here. We 
were asked some silly questions, we got some free records, always a bonus, 
and some other things we hadn't bargained for. Everything swathed in 
scarlet. Perfect.

The two greatest bands of the last two decades both came back to excite us, 
but the album of the year should have been the album of another year. Never 
mind, better late than never for the seaside hopefuls; Feargal Sharkey was 
right, it seems. Future generations can read the faded lettering on John 
Peel's gravestone.

The rest of the year was spent in the pleasant company of old and new 
friends, through watermelon weather and lilac wrapping, flying fretting 
fingers and lunacy on the dancefloor. Booty!

On the eve of a new millenium we toasted Kirsty (it semed only fitting) and 
almost heard a rendition of one of her sweetest moments drifting over the 
river. One to look out for in the new age, we reckon.

And when we woke up, we discovered that nothing had really changed at all, 
and we were still in love. With whatever. With most things. She put her 
fears to one side and took the early flight. He went the other way to chase 
a dream. He might have to wake up soon, though. Maybe he can pull a Rip Van 
Winkle and get away with it for a bit longer. Soon it'll be back to the 
grind for you though, boy. Don't think about the future, it doesn't exist.

JuicyLucy talked about bras. Lisa Morrison talked about the abscence of 
bras. This is all too much for a boy to take. Stop it, please, or I'll have 
to call the police. Still, I've written a poem for the occassion.

No support, bare chest
She'll lift her top at your behest
Still, she's making me depressed
Saying "Is that really the best
you have to offer?".

Alasdair2001Cook xx


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From Netkatie at xxx.com  Fri Jan 12 16:54:41 2001
From: Netkatie at xxx.com (Netkatie at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:54:41 EST
Subject: Sinister: qui est in? lets go to the hop!
Message-ID: <62.aed50ac.279090d1@aol.com>

Hello you lovely people!
Here I am in easyEverything and growing more convinced by the moment that the fellow behind me has advanced TB. (hack. arf. coff) still i write to you all...

I have been in Glasgow for about a week now and its been great but a bit lonely.  You folks are not as visible as my over-active imagination had led me to believe!  I am really dying to meet you--I want to make things with you like music or costumes or anything.  

The Lighthouse exhibit made me dizzy with excitement as I had never seen all the movies at once (let alone with the big screen  and big sound).  Go! GO! all who have not done so.

I am going to TapMoiLa tonight.  I am keeping my eyes peeled. I want to meet a real sinistrine besides the ones I know.  AND I want to see the ones I know again.  Lets do something spectacular and make the world sigh.  

thank you listies for great thoughts and posts
xox
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From silviauollano at xxx.it  Fri Jan 12 19:27:47 2001
From: silviauollano at xxx.it (Silvietta)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:27:47 +0100
Subject: Sinister: boo boo boo boo - Silvia nasty kid
Message-ID: <000701c07ccd$bfdac7a0$b8901197@default>

I'm *so* sorry for posting this to you all, I'm lousy, I am indeed...

... Having said this...

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-----
G-O-R-D-O-N!! I tried to visit your site, but I didn't manage to, maybe the link
you gave me wasn't correct (http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/gogron/ ...?),
enlighten me if you read this please!, curiosity is wearing me - ah.
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-----

Sorry again lovely people, I solemnly promise that I'll never do such bad things
to you again.

Many smiles,

Silvia



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From idleberry at xxx.com  Fri Jan 12 19:45:58 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:45:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: lets just explain things a bit...
Message-ID: <20010112194558.20080.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com>

being small is good, for some of the following
reasons:
1. its cute
2. If you're female, and you like men to be taller
than you, you instantly have more to choose from (and
be picky about)
3. you can hide under the bed easier when you heard
funny noises in the garden
4. you can take trousers up (yes, I know you can take
trousers down, but I am discussing the leg hem here.)
5. bed fit better.
6. you know when your feet need washing without only
discovering it through people not telling you, and
causing those embarrasing moments
7. you can look cute
8. you can get onto bouncy castles
9. you can look cute
10. um, well, if it was good enough for Alice In
Wonderland...

But there are disadvantages too... observe...
1. you look daft if your partner is lots taller (a
foot difference and it looks really silly, trust me)
2. you get bumped and stuff more easily at queues for
booze in clubs/festivals/gigs/January Sales
3. you smell other peoples feet before they notice
4. Looking cute is ace, but sometimes you want to be a
foxy sophisticated fox, and you really need legs to go
with that. Unless you have a pert bottom, in which
case, you are either one of two people: my boyfriend;
Kylie.
5. You have to take trousers up in the first place.
6. tall people use you as an arm rest
7. you'll never play with the tall people at tall
people games and be advantageous.
8. You look daft around tall people
9. you don't have the same alcohol tolerance as tall
people (thats my excuse anyway- otherwise known more
commonly as being a lightweight)
10. it can just be rubbish, and sometimes it would be
nice to be taller.

Oh, and Stuart Gardiner, my dig was not at BIG people.
Tall people don't neccessarily have big feet. So do
small people sometimes too. So don't stereotype.
My dig wasn't at anything in particular. So leave the
archeologist implications to those who do it.

As for Carle Groome saying:
I wondered about some of the posts that I have been
reading lately. 
Some
very 
good (you know who you are) some not so good (you
don't.)

lets face it kids. You know you're all good, to the
right reader. Some people like Calvin and Hobbes,
others prefer Agatha Christie as a bed time read. So
if Carle doesn't like you, it's not your fault. Carle
just doesn't know how to read it. Carle, shame on you
for saying that. Go off and get a good spanking with a
big shoe from Stuart Gardiner.

There,
put the world to rights yet again. What would you do
without me?
I'm off. 

Idles

 

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Fri Jan 12 21:47:25 2001
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:47:25 +0000
Subject: Sinister: here's to looking up at you
Message-ID: <3A5F7B6D.9A105CD3@netscapeonline.co.uk>

well I'm short
5'61/2" worth of short in fact
5'10" is generally the official figure meted out for similarly short, if
more famous, better looking and richer folks like Tom Cruise, Mel
Gibson, Dustin Hoffman and Michael J Fox
I like being short so much I used to wear short trousers in primary
school all winter
lots of grazed knees from wildness in the playground: my knees were
permanently in a scrape
the principle advantage of being short is having more space
the principle disadvantage is trousers that are too long and/or baggy,
unless one has someone around like idleberry to take the hems up, or is
rich like Tom Cruise and can afford a tailor
my ego would preclude me from being taller, of course, because if I were
taller I'd have to be somebody else
I hope this mail is short enough

:)
Gordon

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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 01:00:16 2001
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:00:16 EST
Subject: Sinister: For justice...and puppies....and...er....christmas!
Message-ID: <4b.606896f.279102a0@aol.com>

Hewwo,

How's tricks everyone? I was walking about in a little bubble today. Except 
that I wasn't walking. Because I was in bed with the flu, again. I get sick 
too much, I think I'll fail all my exams. 

I was thinking a lot about James the Ginger Perv. This is partly because I 
just found out that in the infinite moke-ishness of James the Ginger Perv, I 
can't actually let any human being come near me in a (whisper it) s-e-x-y 
way, because all I can think about is him forcing himself on me and laughing 
and saying I was being a tease and I wanted it really. Don't get me wrong, 
the moke didn't rape me or anything, he just did other interferey things, 
which I now realise made me a little more than stupid for believing him each 
time he said he was sorry and wouldn't do it again. And I thought, 'oh, it's 
ok, he's just mad, I can do what I usually do with mad people and help them 
out' . But he wasn't mad, he knew what he was doing. He told me he'd get me 
over my hangups about sex, whether I liked it or not. But I think he made the 
hangups.

 So there's a sobering thought. I wonder how long it's going to be before I 
can actually let someone near me for any length of time. Well, I won't be 
going near him again. Or actually, now that I've found out about that 
interesting little quirk he's left me with, i might go near him one more time 
to castrate him with a rusty spike. But that's all talk, because I wouldn't 
ever do that, really. 

Also in my week of fun and illness, I just discovered that my (ex) friend 
worships hitler and I've found my mailbox clogged up with graphic photos of 
dead and mutilated babies, hilter, more dead babies, and (surprise surprise) 
people eating dead babies. Oh what fun that wasn't.

 Oh, on a good note, they're making Creme Eggs again, which is grate. They go 
so well with Ribena.

And my maybe boyfriend is taking me out to lunch. Except, maybe I should stop 
calling him my maybe boyfriend, and just go to plain old boyfriend. Oh, the 
novelty of seeing a boy or girl who doesn't turn out to be a rapist, pyro, 
perv, dominatrix or Dr Who fan. I mean, I don't think he's an actual 
satanist...

I really wanted to say something about B&S, something cool or interesting or 
unusual. But instead I've been doing the bad 'dear sinister you are my diary' 
thing, which i unreservedly apologise for. 'She's Losing It' is a really good 
song. I like Tigermilk. It's a good relatey album. I don't think there's a 
single song on that I can't identify with in some way. Except 'You're Just a 
Baby". I like it, but I can't get the image of child abuse already set by 
She's Losing It, out of my head, and it just seems like a peadophile anthem 
to me. Sorry, I've become all warped and I just want to sit and cry and cry 
and cry. 

But not to B&S, because that would be trite. I just want to sit in a little 
room all by myself where there's no one left to hit me, and cry and sniffle 
and feel bad, then come out all strong and self explored and all that 
American TV stuff, and I will just stand up in front of them all and I will 
say that I'm not afraid any more, of them. And they won't be able to touch me 
ever again. 

But we all know that never happens, especially because I feel like poo, and 
I'm ill so ignore me, I'm insane.

Bye bye, and sorry,

Hugs,
Jen

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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sat Jan 13 03:10:10 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:10:10 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Vaults in the pole
Message-ID: <200101130306.DAA26873@missprint.org>

Hello,

There has been quite a few e-mails, some quite good, some quite bad, here 
is one which is quite bad now.

Exam beckons and I'm dossing, this is not really the cleverest of ideas, but 
it's quite a fun one.  Yeah, I am back in University now woohoo, or not, 
just before I went back home for Christmas I remember that the uni was really 
stressing me out and depressing me.  It seems to be okay so far tho, which is 
good, let's hope that it's going to stay that way for a while.

I hate it, but I'm falling into the exams blackhole again, it really sucks 
you know.

My sleeping schedule has gone wrong, I try to do revision at night and then 
I fall asleep at the ever so unhealthy 6am and then waking up in the 
afternoons which is horrible cos I'm always missing the best part of the day, 
actually I'm just missing the day cos days come short in winter it gets dark 
around 4pm, and I am now continually and probably perpetually tired.  You 
can tell that I'm tired because I only say use silly words like "perpetually" 
when I'm tired cos I don't know what it means.

Still nothing some Red Bull cannot fix.

Hmmmm bras and how to do 'em, I guess it must come down to luck rather than 
skills at the end of the day for first timers, cos you won't really have done 
it before... unless you have been practicing before hand on your own, or bribed 
your sister to let you practice undressing girls on her or maybe you've looked 
up instructions on the Internet.

As for being short, it is true that it does makes you very cute (flutters 
eyelids) but it doesn't mean that you'll pull (sob), I guess girls don't 
feel that being unequivocally better at chicken limbo than tall boys is a 
good enough reason for a snog.  Girls are odd like that, but I still fancy 
them.. humph.

Exams suck, probably with a straw or even a vacuum cleaner.

The holidays has been so much fun, it was especially grate to see lots 
of sinisters again.  Hopefully Sinister is for life and not just for New 
Year, cos it is afterall where we live.

Body clocks and Red Bulls for all of you
Ken
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From sunnie_set at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 09:57:17 2001
From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:57:17 -0000
Subject: Sinister:Another one of lifes great mysteries unravelled...
Message-ID: <F66xo6AmX3qrB0Xn2Pi0000410a@hotmail.com>

A tale from my dim and distant past... boxing day 2000...
I couldn't move. I stared hopefully at the TV remote control but it was 
being stubborn and refused to jump willingly into my hand. My sister was 
sprawled on the settee next to me. I feared we might never move again...To 
die of boredom whilst surrounded by new CDs and videos. Surely there must be 
a moral in that somewhere?

My sister suddenly suprised me, jumping to her feet heading towards a pile 
of CDs. After careful choice the sounds of Madonna's "Music" filled the 
room. Maybe if I hadn't been quite as much of a lead weight I would have 
protested slightly. Instead I said:
"I didn't know you like Madonna?"

It was true I didn't. In the whole 20 years of knowing her I had been 
clueless to this fact. An aspect of her personality I had been completely 
unaware of. And I am intrigued by people's choice in music. How can some 
people have such good taste while others, well, they like spice girls and 
stuff...

One night, amidst this very same debate a friend took the trouble of telling 
me what great taste in music he had.
"You can't deny it I have excellent taste in music, I really have..."
He was more than slightly drunk and suspect blushed somewhat the next day. 
In his defence, and in my opinion at least, I would have to say he is 
probably right... he does have good taste in music...

This opinion would be undoubtedly not shared be two girls whose conversation 
I happened to overhear minding my own business walking down the street.  "Oh 
they like stupid music, err.. like Belle and Sebastian..."
How could they be so wrong? But that's the thing, certain peoples idea of 
"excellent taste in music" is others idea of "stupid". Musical taste has the 
ability to surprise if nothing else...

Anyway back to my sister. She looks thoughtful frowning slightly. I wait for 
her to answer. In due course she does�
"Oh everybody likes Madonna"


How could I doubt her? She did say it so matter of factly... I questioned 
myself. Did I like Madonna? I didn't think I did particularly. But maybe 
this was the secret I had been missing out on all of these years. Whilst I 
was congratulating myself for liking good music the rest of the world was 
feeling smug because they knew the secret that holds society together.  I 
understand why I have always felt like an outsider. Someone forgot to tell 
me this earth shattering fact.  Maybe it was my parents who when teaching me 
to, look both ways when crossing the road and wash my hands before I eat, 
completely forgot to mention it� "Oh yes and as for music� well that's one 
secret that even we don't understand. Here it is anyway, remember it, it 
will stand you in good stead late on in life."  Or maybe it was just 
something I should have learnt at school. In the fortnight I had my tonsils 
taken out perhaps. My sister still has tonsils so that is a genuine 
possibility.

My sister continued to sprawl on the settee... now humming a little. She 
doesn't even realise what she has just said.  My confidence is shattered, 
concepts of musical taste shredded, I resign myself to becoming a complete 
member of the club... I too now know the secret...

"Everybody likes Madonna..."


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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 03:06:44 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:06:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: flushed from the bathroom of your heart, rant number 5 and a half.
Message-ID: <49.5fe1964.27912044@aol.com>

Jenowl referenced this as a diary or something...I liked that. Though I 
suspect that some people don't. I am going to rant on and I may not mention 
belle and sebastian once...though i am listening to LLPJ right now. (how 
about that, i mentioned them twice already.)

Well, anyway, yesterday was my birthday. I went to work...received some great 
gifts so that was fine, but then i went for my annual birthday GNO (girls 
night out) and it was somewhere between places that i just got the most 
hopeless feeling in my stomach. It started when we were at this pub and I 
went to the girls room...There was one open stall, so I took it. I rather 
hurriedly lifted my skirt and pulled down my tights to tinkle when i look 
down to see this turd floating around in the toilet with a single piece of 
toilet paper. which was rather shocking cause all the chicks are so dainty in 
this joint. if  you are totally disgusted, then you know how i must have 
felt...i am only crass enough to repeat it. so there i was peeing and 
gagging....so i stop midstream and debate on what to do...here i am...its my 
birthday...and i am hovering (because i only sit at home) over a freaking 
latrine (sp) with a nasty poopie. so i finished peeing anyway...and i tried 
to apply it parrably somehow...maybe i was subconsciously telling myself that 
when things get shitty i will still get through (peeing.)

Who the hell did that? I couldn't help looking everyone in the eyes with an 
"i know what you did in the middle stall stare" glare. Here all of these 
gorgeous girls all trying to look more gorgeous than the next and one of them 
dumped a load in the john and didn't even properly dispose of it nor did she 
wipe her ass well enough in my opinion. phonies everywhere, i am totally 
convinced now. It was my fucking birthday...sheesh. And if you have begun to 
know me at all...you know that something like that could just send me over 
the deep end.  but you know...you don't exactly want to go back to the table 
and start blabbing on about your new realizations and how they came about..so 
instead i just took it all in and it ruined my evening.

then this girl that tagged along was asking repeatedly why boys hurt 
girls....(cheating, etc.) and so I told her what I thought  "it is easier to 
seek forgiveness than permission" i said, but she didn't buy it as a likely 
enough excuse...and i am in no position to sell it so i gave up on her 
quickly (she may have been the middle stall culprit even, as she kept 
freshining up her lipstick right at the table. I had no choice but to suspect 
her...she knew what she did in there and probably didn't want to go back to 
the scene of the crime...and here i am thinking that she has gone poo poo and 
hardly taken the time to wipe the remains, but god damn her lipstick looks 
great.)  she will continue to be hurt. some people like to be the victim you 
know...and some people just like to victimize (sp) so in the end its all 
about balance. the real balance is knowing which person you are and not 
bitching about it constantly...though in the chance that its genuinely lovely 
then thats just of the harold and maude persuasion and not intended for real 
life anyway. 

i decided last night that the world could be made up of two types of 
people...there are those that need for a movie to be believable and those 
that don't.

so in the end, we ran into my friend scott and i ditched my 
girlfriends...well, they wanted to go dancing and i didn't. scott is 
wonderful...he never gossips or anything. i love that. he bought me birthday 
drinks until i nearly passed out. and then brought me home where i got 
horribly emotional with tears and started throwing up. he just wet a cloth 
and kept my hair brushed back. i suspect thats about as good as good gets. so 
in the end i pass out...and come to this morning in my bed with a bucket 
beside me.

i come downstairs and there is Scott sleeping on the sofa. and i wondered for 
a while how come I hadn't seen it before. this wonderful boy, that treats me 
so well...gets all my jokes and likes the same music, he is even hot looking. 
staying at my place...not being dirty about it either. just putting me to bed 
and sleeping on my sofa. and he could have easily taken advantage of the 
situation, but he didn't...and i would have slept with him too, but he didn't 
even try. why hadn't i seen it in him before. so i take the day off from work 
and so does he and we had a wonderful day.

tonight we had a total G rated date...no liquor, no beer...just dinner and a 
3-D movie. i think we are two people that don't need the movie to be 
believable just enjoyable. could i be falling in la la la love? 

sigh.
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From jono427 at xxx.net  Sat Jan 13 16:09:44 2001
From: jono427 at xxx.net (John Maxwell)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:09:44 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Sinister: crying & idleness & stuff......
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From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 20:55:32 2001
From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:55:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Photo Jenny (the band)
Message-ID: <20010113205532.5602.qmail@web1611.mail.yahoo.com>

hi everyone,

   So, last night I did a little record shopping. 
Picked up Libraness (ash bowie of polvo), the Black
Dice (actual recorded chaos! an insane band), an old
Trumans Water 7"  and.... a split single with the All
Girl Sumer Fun Band and a band called Photo Jenny.
   I was already gonna buy it because, as everyone
knows, the AGSFB rules the world but, the fact that a
band was called Photo Jenny was enough to buy it too. 
They're a boy/girl duo from Japan and are'nt that bad.
 I thought maybe some of you sinistereens would like
to know about them or maybe already have heard of
them.   Anyway, it's on Lil' Red Wagon records and
deffinately worth checking out.
    In other news: Aden is going on tour soon, and all
of you USA sinistereens MUST go see them if they come
to your town.  they are wonderful.
    OK, that's it for now.  if anyone is into any of
the above bands that i've mentioned feel free to
e-mail me and talk music.  bye.

        -- andrew
 

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From ava60 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 22:27:51 2001
From: ava60 at xxx.com (Ava Arsaga)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:27:51 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F208oihFqoN1smhjE2Y0000bead@hotmail.com>

Well johnjohn, all i can say is happy birthday ... ill be making the same 
actions in october...a bit of a long time from now...I'm trying to think of 
a suave way of saying that you seems like an amazing person...i guess that 
will do...lentil soup in a flask eh?   Thats the best...but only if you have 
some pieces of cheese bread for dipping...I just felt like saying hello 
though...and hello to the rest of the list. Not much has been going on in my 
region of the world...i went to work this morning and im sure i aggrevated 
the cooking staff by playing fox in the snow on repeat and then the same 
with my modest mouse cd until they had to ask me to change it...oh well 
though...it was worth it.  my life seems rather dormant right now i suppose 
that i wont bother everyone with it...you're welcome. I look forward to 
hearing from everyone again soon....

Take Care,
Ava
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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Sat Jan 13 23:46:04 2001
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:46:04 -0000
Subject: Sinister: lifes short and hard like a body building elf
Message-ID: <F19768wv5Uo1G1SG2Fr00017a38@hotmail.com>

sinister

how art we all this (not very nice at all) weather??

me
well, me
i just am

how did everyone enjoy the festive season then??
i hope we all had a wonderful time
seems jenowl did anyway!

you know talking about new year and good times
oh last year
twas gid :)
although it did result in a few drunken posts
well at least 1
yeah
i went to stirling ANYWAY
this one guy i went out with, douglas
would luv to have seen him again
found out TODAY from a friend that i went with
that he had wanted to see me again and had tried to give me his number
(i was busy...eh...busy?)
and he gave it to her to give to me
and she told me today
how annoyed am i at that �:|

mine, well mines was pretty god damn boring
on xmas day it was just marshmellow, my mum and me coz my sisters went to my 
faithers
i god pissed out of sheer boredom
alone
sad
    saad
         saaad
:/

new year
i was invited to a party
but no
i stayed home
i kinda had to tho
marshmellow and me maw were staying in
so were my sisters (not that i particularly want to spend anymore time than 
is absolutely necessary with the vengabitch)
and my b/f was coming over too
(and a bottle of southern comfort later he decides we should have a talk and 
clear the air some more <things werent going to great> and he tells me the 
secret he has been keeping from me-when it was still an open relationship he 
went out drinking with keith *ssssssss* and slept with some other lassie)
but i was shattered and half asleep by the bells

jenowl talked about the secc carnival
i went last nite (friday nite) with my friend for her b/day
it was ok
i had candyfloss :)
i didnt win anything.
not that i tried
oh well.

my younger sister, ernicle, has a magic carpet       apparantly
strange?
i thought so.

i hate school
i really do
i hate everything about it
especially virtually all of the other pupils
bastards
bastards bastards
its a mutual thing
im sure

gigs
offspring on wed
dougie maclean feb 1st
deftones- march
muse- may

anyone out there fancy going to see grandaddy??
or king adora??
or JJ72??
coz i av no one to go with
:(
if, of course, i can get tickets

yeah, i went to a b&s djset at edinburgh uni a few mths ago
with our own dear narrow wizard, owen
but i am pretty sure i missed the b&s dj set
coz i only saw 1or 2 of the sets
and spent the rest of the nite talking to my mate stuart that invited us
altough i did spot a b&s t shirt
his name was nico
he wasnt sinister

i finally have a job
in evans in falkirk
its money
im still skint and in debt though
what can i say
im a compulsive spender
:)
actually a fair bit of my money has gone on cheap cds
and buying the 2 crow albums for my b/f, that cost almost �30!
and debt, of course

anyway
yeah

anyway
best be off
"the twee-est fucker of them all"
LOL!
your friend always
sweetie
xox
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From ruvi at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 01:19:07 2001
From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:19:07 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Cigarettes burning too quickly for comfort.
Message-ID: <003401c07dc8$00185620$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk>

In an effort to write a little it less this time, I am only going to give
myself the time it takes to smoke a cigarette in which to complete
this...well, I quail to think of a suitable name for it. Screed? I shouldn't
really be smoking since I am still recovering from the flu, but it is
proving impossible to restrain myself. Indeed, the softness of my willpower
often gives me cause to lament. But anyway, enough of that, I am finally
feeling myself convalescing after several dreary, depressing days, and so I
shall shun such negative thoughts. Yesterday I was driving back to London,
or rather, being driven back since I can't drive, and the sky was overcast
with thick, billowing cloud. However, as we were whizzing past Hatfield, the
clouds began to break and golden shards of sunlight started to stream down,
warming the cold, barren fields. It felt, well, it felt like nature was
trying to tell me something, or at least that there was something I could
learn from it if I chose to. Nights and winters may seem long when one is
immersed in them, but they come and go. The fields that are now unploughed
and in a deathly slumber will, soon enough, begin to come back to life, and
become the home of growth and rebirth. So, what I learnt, obvious as it may
seem and difficult as it may be to bear in mind the next time night
descends, is optimism. Optimism and energy is what is needed to make the
most of a life that is all too short as is.

My cigarette has already run out, but I'm not feeling too inclined to stop
myself just yet. I'm aware of the woeful scarcity of any mention of Belle
and Sebastian yet again, but I don't really have much to say about them. I
would be listening to them, but I can't be bothered to plug in my
headphones. If I could, however, I would put on Fold Your Hands Child etc.
etc., which I've decided, having spoken to people about it, is a criminally
underrated and maligned album.

Since instead of writing this I should really be doing some reading, I shall
try and exercise just a little discipline. I can't really remember any good
jokes to end with, so instead how about a lovely quote?

"Down with wisdom! Forget everything I have said. Let us be neither prudish
nor prudent. I drink to merriment. Let us be merry and end our course on law
with folly and with food...How splendid is creation, how filled with gaiety,
the world glittering like a gem in benefaction of summer...My soul flies out
to virgin forests and savannahs. Everything is beautiful. The flies swarm in
the sunlight and the humming-bird is born in the sun. Kiss me, Fantine." -
Victor Hugo.

There. Over-long and superfluous it may be, but I can't help thinking that,
in some ways, it is relevant.

Ruvi.

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From angelfairybelle at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 14:17:47 2001
From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:17:47 -0000
Subject: Sinister: bono crushing, heh heh heh
Message-ID: <F179Y4kJSFsxf4yp8AR000168e2@hotmail.com>

i'm back in glasgow.  it's not as i expected it to be.  normally i have the 
bestest time ever here, but my friends from the halls of residence have 
decided they don't want to be my friends anymore and are being really 
mokeish to me.  like not telling me when or where we are going out, or then 
we go out and they "accidentally" disappear on me and leave me to walk home 
on my own.  so i had a bit of a cry last night and phoned up my bunch of 
other, much cooler and nicer friends and i decided i might go to liverpool 
for a few days.  only i can't really afford it.

"elevation" by U2 is on in easy everything.  this is gonna sound dead stupid 
but this is such a sexy song!  i think i just think this cos when i was 9 i 
had the biggest crush on Bono.  bu no one knows that so ssh!  ;)

saw mr murdoch on friday, all dressed in black.  much swooning took place, 
oh yes.

oh dear, i've run out of credit, gotta dash,
amy xx
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 16:41:13 2001
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:41:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: pepto
Message-ID: <20010114164113.20510.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.com>

photo jenny have several releases, actually, and they
are incredibly irritating to my ears.  most recent one
a single on elefant.  japanese girl singers all tend
to coo emotionless tales of adolescence in broken
english but photo jenny's girl(though the guy singer
is not so bad) tops them all as she squeaks in a range
audible through most of the higher end of the acoustic
spectrum.  piercing.  cranes-like skin crawling.  jpop
people probably think they are gods and really the
first cassette is not so bad, they don't sound
anything like belle and sebastian except for having
acoustic guitars in most of their songs.  

we, myself and someone lovelier, went to london over
christmas, the weather was abominable and really i
think we midwesterners are far too polite as everyone
there just seemed intent on bowling us over and not
caring one bit about it.  still we had a lovely time
but for the hardwood floors of our hostel that made
sleeping quite the chore but then come to think of it
--who needs sleep on vacation?    

i think the new modesty blaise album is the album the
boo radleys were trying to make when they mistakenly
ended up with kingsize.  oh and that new brave captain
record is something like an abortion, dreadful.  
but modesty blaise is beautiful. is he edwyn collins'
brother?


keith m

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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 22:12:12 2001
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:12:12 -0000
Subject: Sinister: denied by the paperwork
Message-ID: <F185NH2cv0aGltFBNlJ00009b69@hotmail.com>



Well as I hadn't posted for a while I thought I might utilise the dying 
hours (well 15 mins at least) of another boring sunday to rectify that fact.

One of the highlights of the festive season was walking into a pub in the 
west end of london and hearing "o'come o'come..." i was so surprised i 
nearly ordered cider instead of vodka but luckily the ubiquitous ibiza 
trance compilation kicked in after a few minutes and i was able to order 
with a clear mind. Ok, this wasn't really a highlight at all but it amused 
me.

i stood next to darren hefner the other day at ant hefners gig. he slagged 
off the band who were playing after ant and quite rightly too. They are 
called Lincoln and specialise in meandering jazz or something. the gig felt 
like death by slow burning at a low temperature. Having said that, sunday 
times really liked their mini-album. not that the sunday times should be 
used as a barometer of anything.

I started a new job a month ago. it was a relief because i was feeling poor 
and doing nothing all day gets depressing. i am now working for a most evil 
conglomerate that i am sure Radiohead dislike in some way. i like working 
for them though. i get free coke and don't have to wear a suit which is 
reason enough to like working there.

Last night i went to school disco. which is.. a school disco with lots of 
alcohol and you had to wear school uniform. Thus there were lots of blokes 
looking stupid and lots of girls looking like Britney spears. The music was 
rubbish of course but i doubt anyone on sinister could resist dancing to the 
perennial classic "sweet child o' mine". Forgive me, I couldn't.

what i would like for the new year...
william hague to admit he is facist homophobe,
B&S tour,
the news media to stop being amazed when the queen mum stubs her toe,
the quiet life.

p a u l
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 22:51:44 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:51:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: a laughing matter.
Message-ID: <17.103d8545.27938780@aol.com>

Today I feel like an Arab Strap song...all raspy and sexy...all drinking and 
bed wetting. all abusing and misusing. all dirty and molesting. all fondling 
my balls in your name...all calling you out as a game. 

Anyway, back to this matador thing. I bought a couple of compilations (which 
i rarely do, but 5 CDs  for twenty dollars...a bargain) Anyway, I wondered 
for a while why there wasn't any Belle and Sebastian on any of them. I mean 
Arab Strap is on there even. I understand that there was some sort of hiatus 
between the two, but I thought it was rather brief...so brief that B & S 
could have been on one or both sets. Let me know if you know cause its this 
sorta thing that keeps me up at night (not really.)

Last night on HBO, I watched this show "Reverb" which had Built to Spill and 
Pavement. It was awesome. I was pumped up and ready to rock at like 2 in the 
morning....not a good thing, but not bad either.  Pavement, oh Pavement, what 
happened? Steven was talking on about the highlights of touring and one of 
which sitting down to eat a good meal together. I thought that was so sweet.  
In all that you do, having something as simple as a good meal with people 
that you genuinely like...we should all hope that something so small could be 
so wonderful. Did you know that Steve and Steven used to be security guards 
together in a new york museum? I thought that was clever too. 

Right now I am listening to my comp CD...which has a slow live version of 
sugarcube (ylt)....so beautiful. I saw them live a couple of months ago...it 
was the best show I have ever seen. but I saw them with an ex-beau of mine. 
it's best to see shows with good platonic friends, I think...so when the 
relationship goes down the drain you dont have to be reminded of it everytime 
you listen to a band or whatnot. Incidentally, I wrote him a letter that I 
never sent. It's ugly, but I want to share it with you anyway....just to show 
you what I mean by this Arab Strap mode of mine.

it read like this:

'You're nothing but a joke to me. Someone to manipulate. silly putty comes to 
mind everytime I think of you. A joke and nothing more. you would do better 
to never allow me to talk to you again, but you always do. And I just 
couldn't care less...closure means nothing to me...it never has. 

And you may struggle with some witty reply, but I am the one that holds the 
score card anyway. So nothing that you can do or say is going to make you 
better than what you are right now. and what you are right now is not much. 

So now here is what you do:

Member directory search and find another one...a joke like you must 
occasionally have some fun.

and to answer that nagging question that comes while you jerk off. "no, you 
never were"

So fuck you...not tonight not ever again. You're not worth the waste of wet.

thanks for the laughs. '

Incidentally, I never sent it...cause truth be known he is the one that broke 
my heart...and not the other way around...and he is the one that holds the 
card for score keeping. but it's fun to pretend, you know.  


Anyway, I hope Sunday finds you all doing something wonderful or nothing at 
all, but nothing , I mean nothing, inbetween the two.

Yours,
Isabel Lark
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Sun Jan 14 23:21:27 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:21:27 EST
Subject: Sinister: oh yeah. i almost forgot.
Message-ID: <84.1006aecd.27938e77@aol.com>

anyone interested in trading mix tapes? I am great at making compilation 
tapes...and I would love to trade tapes. It's truly the best (and most 
honest) way to find out about good new music that maybe you otherwise 
wouldn't have been introduced to. 

though in this day and age of MP3's and the like...it seems that this is the 
slowest possible way to hear about new music, but I am hoping that some of 
you out there don't mind slow, honest, or novel. Even though I have a potty 
mouth (tourettes) and am morally challenged in most ways....a girl has to 
draw the line somewhere.

Note: I only accept and make tapes. Contact me in private if interested.
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 00:31:18 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:31:18 EST
Subject: Sinister: Memphis IN November
Message-ID: <b1.5c063b9.27939ed6@aol.com>

Well, I put that post up about the tapes and received quite a response. I had 
no idea that there were so many listees near me. I thought everyone (but me) 
lived in Europe.

Anyway, we have planned a meeting in Memphis in November. If you can get 
there, please contact us. If we have enough then we could do a floor block of 
rooms at some hotel.  The list of contacts are as follows:

Toadie29 at aol.com (lurker girl)
Isabellark at aol.com (Me)

This is going to be a blast...and it will be in November, so that we may all 
wear our cardigans.

We will work out the exact dates as we get closer, but it will be on a 
weekend in November for now. Plan your month accordingly.
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From wpsalt at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 00:40:43 2001
From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:40:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: develop, stop, fix, think
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101142308370.18883-100000@candle.btinternet.com>


this is going to be another one of those personal, diary type posts with
little if any content.  if you demand content in your reading, turn away
now.







i'm feeling a bit reflective and thoughtful tonight.

my grandmother died this afternoon.

over the past few years, she was moved into nursing homes.  she started
forgetting where and when she was.  she couldn't walk, and just before she
died she couldn't eat either.  it happened just as i was moving away from
home, so i would see her maybe once or twice a year.  each time she would
be smaller, less confident, more unhappy, less sure of where she was.

people would visit, and she would not know who they were.  she would think
they were old friends, people who died decades ago.  She would burst into
tears, because she would think she had been talking to her brother, but
would then remember that he had been shot down over frankfurt fifty-seven
years before.

i last saw her three weeks ago.  i walked into the day room of the nursing
home, and didn't recognise her.  when we left, she was crying.  i said
"i'll see you again", but i didn't think i would.  i think she knew too.
at least she had known who i was.


before i left home, i had travelled round and round my home town taking
pictures of everything i could.  buildings, parks, landscapes, weather,
people.  i only have one photograph of my grandmother, though, and it
isn't very good.  a lot of the things i took pictures of then have
disappeared now, but i'm not so bothered about buildings.

today, tomorrow, or next week, i will put more film in my camera and go
out and photograph everyone and everything i know.  tomorrow, they might
not be there anymore.  i shall stand in the darkroom and count out seconds
of light.

the other week, i was reading through some old sinister posts that i'd
kept.  one was about someone who'd worked in a nursing home, and knew how
horrible it was.  one was: what will happen when we are all old ourselves?
will we be sitting in a home all together, listening to B+S as we forget
who and where we are?  nursing homes are horrible, horrible places, but we
have to face up to them.  we are all going to be ancient one day.  maybe
we can all collapse together.

i shall stop taking up your precious, precious time.  i shall take your
photograph instead.



xx  gneiss


-- 
Will Salt

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From Toadie29 at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 00:57:07 2001
From: Toadie29 at xxx.com (Toadie29 at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:57:07 EST
Subject: Sinister: regarding our gathering
Message-ID: <e8.f245085.2793a4e3@aol.com>

hi all, here i am joining the coming-out-of-lurkerdom bandwagon.  as you are 
aware isabel and i are planning a meeting for us all in november time.  there 
is, unfortunately, a catch.  due to the drinking age in our scenic united 
states, we will have to ask that those planning on going will be 21 by 
november.  this way we can all hang out together and no one is excluded from 
going to pubs or any activities that we may plan.  if you have any questions 
contact isabellark at aol.com  or myself  toadie29 at aol.com   
thanks everyone, and we hope to meet you there! 
~stine
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From lleweth at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 03:10:56 2001
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:10:56 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Don't put your eggs all in one bastard
Message-ID: <LAW-F95VN7miR9Oduto00004b40@hotmail.com>

Well, I'll be damned. (If I'm lucky.) I turn my head for nary a second and 
if the list hasn't been overtaken by knasty knitters. Once again, I must go 
on a crocheting crusade and this time without the trusty Ree who is far too 
distracted while in England. I know y'all curl up with your knitting 
kneedles and think of yourselves as all twee and grandmotherly. All the 
while Madame Defarge is lurking inside. Do you know knitting's tainted 
history? Tricoteuses were Parisian women who attended revolutionary meetings 
and urged the crowds on to greater bloodshed, knitting all the while. I've 
never crocheted a scarf which was a list of people who were to be 
slaughtered. (Of course, now I have a new goal in life...) We might be 
hookers or even the antichrist but at least we aren't little leaches with 
our yarn...

which is why I believe I shall spare lovely Emily's neck and pamper the 
poetry parrot. Within the same breath which she uttered her lovely Sonnet, 
Will Porter (Adonis extraordinaire) mentioned Wallace Stevens. Wally has the 
same birthday as me (which I suppose isn't hard when I have so many. the 
more birthdays i have the more presents I get) Last fall, while I was in 
Hartford Connecticut I took the path which he walked every day from work to 
home which is where he wrote his poetry. It was quite lovely, even if I was 
left as uninspired as when I started. So, I immediately whipped (you'd think 
Proust had entered the picture) out my beloved Christmas gift of Stevens 
collected poems and tried to decide on one. Mmm, I do love 13 ways of 
looking at a blackbird, especially, "I do not know which to prefer: the 
beauty of inflections or the beauty of innuendoes. The blackbird whistling, 
or just after."

However, I didn't get very far before I started hearing Dorothy Parker coo 
to me. Well, it wasn't much of a coo - but I suppose one can't expect much 
from the poet who's been dead 33 years. Plus, when she was alive she smoked 
like a demon. I think I could respond to most of the sinister posts simply 
by quoting Parker.
To JenOwl who was pondering about guys - "Some men break your heart in two, 
Some men fawn and flatter, Some men never look at you; And that cleans up 
the matter."
To IsabelLark who's wondering if she's in love - don't worry its just an 
Unfortunate Coincidence. "By the time you swear you're his, shivering and 
sighing, And he vows his passion is infinite, undying - Lady, make a note of 
this: One of you is lying."
To the students at exam time:    Razors pain you;
	                         Rivers are damp;
			         Acids stain you;
                                 And drugs cause cramp.
				 Guns aren't lawful;
				 Nooses give;
			  	 Gas smells awful;
				 You might as well live.

I'm certainly squeaking the squawk from the parrot. Hey - at least I didn't 
simply put one of the poems about me written by a list member. I could have 
just cut and copied http://www.angelfire.com/indie/badpoetry right here but 
instead you get a dirge for the dead. Here's my actual poem - which is my 
favorite. This one is for Chorine Chris Lampien who I love more than the 
smell of burning leaves in the autumn.

Threnody

Lilacs blossoms just as sweet
Now my heart is shattered.
If I bowled it down the street,
Who's to say it mattered?
If there's one that rode away
What would I be missing?
Lips that taste of tears, they say,
Are the best for kissing.

Eyes that watch the morning star
Seem a little brighter;
Arms held out to darkness are
Usually whiter.
Shall I bar the strolling guest,
Bind my brow with willow?
When, they say, the empty breast
Is the softer pillow?

That a heart falls tinkling down,
Never think it ceases
Every likely lad in town
Gathers up the pieces.
If there's one gone whistling by
Would I let it grieve me?
Let him wonder if I lie;
Let him half believe me.

Lovely. Now, who shall I send the albatross to? The only ancient mariner I 
know of is Captain Ahab. So, the poetry parrot is flying the coop to one of 
my most favorite people ever - Ahab of AOL. I actually wrote him a poem to 
him once - on a sugar packet - in a Denny's - in the middle of the night - 
in Binghamton, New York.

He hasn't come out from under his bed ever since.

Laura
"meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977"

-Thanks to Jan Imgrund we now have an updated new & improved (with a fresh 
lemon scent) Literary List. So go to
dubya dubya dubya dawt I is literate dawt communism 
(http://iodin.tripod.com/litlist.htm)
-- The missing link? http://homepage.mac.com/gwchimp/


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From dahling at xxx.net  Mon Jan 15 04:01:10 2001
From: dahling at xxx.net (Stacey Shackford)
Date: 14 Jan 2001 23:01:10 EST
Subject: Sinister: working overtime on the seduction line
Message-ID: <20010115040110.2774.qmail@nwcst293>

hullo lovelies!

After several long years away, I have broken down and rejoined the list. And
it seems so lovely! We appear to have loads of talented, creative writers. I
must admit to being a wee bit intimidated. I spend my life writing about
criminals, victims, degenerates and everyone in between, and at the end of the
day i don't have much of anything creative to say. But I enjoy cuddling in bed
with my laptop and reading lots of pretty sinister posts.
I don't have much important to say really, but I was so excited to be exempt
from nursery status that I felt compelled to post something! First things
first. Everyone seems so ill! I hope John John dear is not the only
sinisterene toting around flasks of soup. I get worried, you know. And there
are far too many sinisterenes chatting their nights away and not sleeping
*ahem stoo and ken*.
Mummyness aside...
As means of introduction... I am Stacey. I am 23 (24 on Feb. 26, if you'd like
to send prezzies :). I first joined the list in 97/98. I think I was number 80
or something (is that possible???) and left when I went to Greece to study
archaeology. I never came back - to the list that is, I'm back from Greece. I
currently live in Massachusetts and work as a crime reporter (if you hadn't
figured that out already, add that to my list of sinisterene concerns).
I'd like to be able to reflect on the good ole days of sinister, but honestly
I don't remember much. :) I remember miss erin lewis, the angel from
California who made me my first copy of Tigermilk, back when it was still the
most hard to get and coveted item ever. Is erin still around? I owe her a
prezzie. I remember the first crush list - it was managed by some poor
unsuspecting listee, and St. Lucy or whoever got all the votes because of her
foxy photo. I remember my very first tape exchange, and Nick Dastoor and some
other boy constantly taunting each other. Great fun. Katrina and David would
feed our insatiable hunger for band gossip and patiently supply answers to our
neverending barrage of trivial questions.
Awww...
Anyway, I'm sure the list is much better now :) At the very least, it seems
more thoughtful and substantial. Yet still very cozy, which is what I love so
much about belle and sebastian fans. I have never met a listee, but I'm sure
that'll change soon enough. Enough about me already.
I heard the chirp of a poetry parrot earlier and thought it sounded lovely.
Mind if I feed it?

Seniors, by Mr. Alberto Rios (not me! unfortunately :)

William cut a hole in his Levi's pocket
so he could flop himself out in class
behind the girls so the other guys
could see and shit what guts we all said.
All Konga wanted to do over and over
was the rubber band trick, but he showed 
everyone how, so nobody wanted to see
anymore and one day he cried, just cried until his parents took him away
forever.
Maya had a Hotpoint refridgerator standing in his living room, just for his
family to show
anybody who came in that they could afford it.

Me, I got a french kiss, finally, in the catholic
darkness, my tongue's farthest half vacationing
loudly in another mouth like a man in Bermudas,
and my body jumped against a flagstone wall, 
I could feel it through her thin, almost
nonexistent body: I had, at that moment,
a hot girl on a summer night, the best of all
the things we tried to do. Well, she
let me kiss her anyway, all over.

Or it was just a flagstone wall
with a flow in the stone, an understanding cavity
for burning young men with smooth dreams - 
the true circumstance is gone, the true
circumstances about us all then
are gone. But when I kissed her, all water,
she would close her eyes, and they into somewhere
would disappear, whether she was there
or not, I remember her, clearly, and she moves
around the room, sometimes, until I sleep.

I have lain on the desert in watch
low in the back of a pick-up truck
for nothing in particular, for stars, for
the things behind stars, and nothing comes
more than the moment: always now, here in a truck
the moment again to dream of making love and sweat,
this time to a woman, or even to all of them
in some allowable way, to those boys, then
who couldn't cry, to the girls before they were
women, to friends, me on my back, the sky over me
pressing its simple weight into her body
on me, into the bodies of them all, on me.

Oh my, that was quite long! and a bit dirty, I'm afraid. Ah well. That's what
they made scroll keys for.
Night all. Be good.

~dahling

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From chrislampinen at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 07:51:37 2001
From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (Christiaan!! !!)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:51:37 -0500
Subject: Sinister: aw, baby, you know i love you
Message-ID: <F103c1o8yfogkJXrRjb00009762@hotmail.com>

Hi.

Stacey posted. Rad.

I have a good reason to post tonight. Honey, shut your eyes. I know I 
haven't been on sinister all that long, and that I have no right to do this, 
but I think I have to. I'm going to post to the list--

about the list.

I'm sorry, I must.

Haha no just kidding!

Laura Llew says:
#Sinister: Satan's Chatroom or The Land of Milk(maaids)& Honey

I say:
#Sinister: Both.

Laura Llew also said:
"I know you all curl up with your...grandmother...the antichrist"

Ouch!

Back to sinister. Do you know who the milkmaaid is? I do. In fact, I know 
him personally. He's a slender fellow, about This tall. He likes jelly beans 
and apple juice and can sometimes be seen changing his pants in parking lots 
before getting ice cream. Milkmaaid seems like a real nice guy from the 
outside, but...sometimes I don't think it's for real. If you look into his 
eyes, you can see his pupils. Also, he hit a coworker the other day. That's 
the meanest thing I've ever heard of!

Look what I'm trying to say is: if #sinister is Satan's chatroom, I'm sure 
milkmaaid would be right at home. If any of you see him there, fuck his shit 
up. Other than milkmaaid #sinister is a lovely place. Sometimes the other 
maids (who are much nicer than the double a'd fiend) are there prancing 
about with the lovely Princess Honey. And sometimes they aren't.

Crocheting has also come up. I can't crochet. My little sister can, though. 
I'll take sides with the crochet folk, mostly because I'm crushing the two 
revolutionary leaders (the aforementioned Llewy and the 
soon-to-return-to-our-country Merry Marie Elia). Also, Madame Defarge is a 
bitch. It's still kind of hard though, taking sides with my sister. I don't 
like her too much.

It was nice to see that Stacey uses a laptop. I do too. That way I can lay 
down and chat/email/whatever without leaving bed. Also, I can eat meals and 
spill them all over my chest tonightiwashavingnoodles and i had them 
onmyfork and somefelloff and saucesaucesauceSAUCE onmychest oh god

                              flash
                                   backs!!

Um. Yeah, so.

I see some people are having a meetup in a while. That's really great to 
hear. I've decided to have one of my own on a date to be decided. I wish 
everyone could go, but I've decided that I'm allowing only attractive male's 
over 6' (or 7") who wear over $1000 outfits and ride grey donkeys to work at 
Microsoft to come.

Wait. You know what? Fuck that.

If anyone wants to come, come. I live in southeastern Michigan, USA. If 
you're close to that, come say hi. If you don't want to drive, that's cool. 
I'll come to you. OK? Because I love you ALL.

That's right! You! with the long hair and braces. You! with the broken arm 
and the ugly sweater. You! with the glasses and the Hefner cigarette case. 
You! with the baby blue cashmere turtle neck and the glittery girls pa- 
oops, that's me! Well, I love you Christiaan!

OK I'm goint to bed now.

Bye!

Love,
Christiaan

PS: you should really go to #sinister for chatting goodness. the new bots, 
uncxavier and auntwendy, kick each other for idling. it's funny.

PPS: I love you.

One last thing: You know what? I always forget this list is about Belle & 
Sebastian when I'm posting. Oh listmum please don't spank me! Hey, wait a 
minute..

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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 07:58:30 2001
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:58:30 EST
Subject: Sinister: Gut check time...
Message-ID: <6.10c029a3.279407a6@aol.com>

Howdy everyone,

I don't know if anyone ever mentioned it, but there was an interview with 
Isobel in an issue of Magnet magazine recently.  It basically talked about 
the gentle waves, but it highlighted her love of talking smut, including the 
revelation that many of the songs on the GWs new album are 
about...gasp...sex.  Not just sex with anyone, mind you, but ostensibly sex 
with Stuart Murdoch, because Isobel admits in the first paragraph that 
they've been an on-again-off-again item for quite a long time now.  Its a 
side of Isobel I know I didn't expect to see, what with all the bunny and 
tree talk, and its a pretty good read.
In more important news...THE BALTIMORE RAVENS HAVE MADE THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!!! 
 Yes folks, against all odds the beloved team of my home town is playing in 
the biggest sporting event in America in two weeks.  I still cannot believe 
it.  You can say their offense is weak, that they're too young, that they 
don't deserve it, you can even say that American football is somehow an 
idiotic sport, but to all that I say PISS OFF! because you're obviously a 
prude and an idiot to boot.  Next stop, Tampa Bay.
I had four cans of beer sprayed on me at once...I stink...

Steve C.
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From jordiet at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 08:40:28 2001
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 15 Jan 2001 08:40:28 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Photo Jenny (the band)
Message-ID: <20010115084028.345.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net>

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Mon Jan 15 09:42:45 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:42:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I've Aged Twenty Minutes In Five
Message-ID: <001c01c07ed7$a6f1b260$1b62253e@itjfvkli>

Dear bra diary,

Do bras count as body parts? Either way, I think Damon the Enforcer's going
to have his hands full. As for bra removal, have any of you boys ever
thought of asking nicely? Alternatively, you could train some pet beetles to
do it for you.

Does anyone else find that the thought of Isobel "at it" puts them off their
porridge? Nevertheless, purely in the interests of research, is there any
chance of anyone typing/scanning that article and sending it in to the list?
I'm sure Stuart would be delighted. It sounds really bitchin'. No wonder
those string arrangements of Stuart's are so sensual.

C'mon kids, surely someone can get the lowdown on the new songs B&S are
rumoured to be laying down. Everyone showed admirable restraint witht he
last album, but I think the time has come for some serious bean spilling.

FISHYCLAP was one of Record Collector's albums of the year. Hurrah!

Peter

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From matt at xxx.uk  Tue Jan  9 21:18:04 2001
From: matt at xxx.uk (Matt Tullett)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:18:04 -0000
Subject: Sinister: All Tomorrow's Parties
Message-ID: <001301c07a81$a967dce0$c605883e@fsnet.co.uk>




> Is anyone else thinking of going to the All Tomorrow's parties festival in
> April? My girlfriend and I want to go but we need two other people to
share
> a four bed chalet. Anyone interested?
>
> To find out more about the festival that's being arranged with Tortiose
> (they're choosing the bands) go to:
> > > http://www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk/
> > > bands are: tortoise / yo la tengo / broadcast / sea and cake / and
more
> > > it's at camber sands, rye, engalnd
>
> Whatever you do don't go to http://www.alltomorrowsparties.com
>
> Cheers
>
> Matt
>


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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 15 10:58:44 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:58:44 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Yet another subject line which has absolutely nothing to do with 
	the content of the post...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277543B@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

OK, the problems with being freakishly tall:

1. Banging your head on doors.
2. Beds that aren't big enough.
3. Finding clothes that fit.
4. Teenage girls wanting to sit on your shoulders at gigs.
5. Not being able to join in the conversation without bending over (eg when
talking to Sinisterines at the Spitz on Saturday night).
6. Lack of legroom on buses / trains / airplanes.
7. Uncomfortable driving positions.
8. Always being the one who has to put up / take down the Christmas
decorations.
9. Finding shoes that fit.
10. Having to sit down when you want a bit of tonsil tennis.


And as for bras, I find it's better to undo and remove them with your mouth.
More fun, anyway.

(Or so I've heard. Obviously, I'm not *that* kind of guy. I just wish I
was.)


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From Matthew.Rose at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 11:51:24 2001
From: Matthew.Rose at xxx.com (Rose, Matthew (Expl))
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:51:24 -0000
Subject: Sinister: crying & idleness & stuff......
Message-ID: <7137C15D47B8D211806A0008C71EA5DD33CD4E@EXPBRIEXCH01>

Dear John,

Don't sigh and feel lonely; you shared 'this amazing scenery' with us and it
certainly cheered me up. Sounds like you got your head screwed on to me. 

yours,

Matt Rose
The Quiet Club
Bristol




dear sinister,

well, i feel as if there is this void in me, smothering me in idleness.  but
i am not too sure if i don't like it or not..

sometimes it can take a turn for the worse, where you don't want to do
anything but cry, or even if you want to you physically can't because your
sadness takes every drop of life from you.

or there is other times, like just now, where you just want to sit back and
relax on a deck-chair with a hat shielding your eyes from the sun and
smiling to yourself. i would do this, if it wasn't for the rather cold
conditions outside.

the sun is shining on the loch, and has been for most of this year, because
there hasn't been any clouds covering the skies up here for quite a while.
so i am content with a cup of tea in my hands, staring out the window and
down onto the water. i tend to sigh quite a lot during these times too, at
the thought of how all this amazing scenery can never be shared with someone
else..

well, my birthday is on friday, making me big & 16. i'll be not-so-ickle ,
but ickle enough to  still enjoy being wee & young & innocent. 

my father will probably take me round to my darling sister's house for the
evening, which means i won't be able to do anything else to celebrate.
which doesn't bother me at all; families are grate and they shouldn't be
taken for granted, especially after divorce tears it apart and complicates
things with all its 'why can't things be just as they were before?' anguish
& confusion.  remorse too, thinking that you could have tried better to make
your parents love each other more..

to celebrate being 16, i think i'll take a long walk up a hill on saturday.
just me, my warmest clothes, and a flask of lentil soup.  in my opinion,
nothing is comparable to the sound of nothing but the breeze on the trees
and watching a wee burn trickling down the slope.

there is always one thing i feel when i wander through the countryside is
that you never feel as if you are getting the true beauty that can be
offered. like there's always this little bitty more smashingness that given
to us.  like how you always want your wedding day to be the most complete
day ever, but when you go to other weddings there is always a certain
something missing.  in david eddings' belgariad, there is the complete
wedding, where you can imagine the beautiful music being played and the orb
shining, and how i've cried more at that book than at any real wedding..

*sniff*

city dwellers might get to see all the cool people from all the grate bands,
but at this moment i couldn't care less because i have the most beautiful
view outside. 

johnjohn
   x

oh,i think i'll add the sun is already starting to set, leaving an faint
yellowey/orange band across the whole horizon..

*sigh*



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From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 15 12:07:27 2001
From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:27 -0000
Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to indie-pop-punk tunes as Offbeat returns
Message-ID: <E14I8QG-00026d-00@mailhub1.shef.ac.uk>

.... This Friday and 4 more times this Spring

*(apologies to anyone who receives this message more than once!)*

    
         OFFBEAT -  a real indiepop night.......
     
     with late bar, free lollipops, stickers and request sheets
     
     Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome)
     
     9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door...

FRIDAY 19th JANUARY
FRIDAY 2nd FEBRUARY (4th Birthday Party)
FRIDAY 16th FEBRUARY
FRIDAY 9th MARCH (Smiths & Morrissey Special)
FRIDAY 6th APRIL
     
     Playing......Classic leftfield Indie, Punk POP, lo-fi, C86,
     new indiepop underground sounds,...
     
HELEN LOVE-HEFNER-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS
KENICKIE-PASTELS-IDLEWILD-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT-
ANGELICA-FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-CLINIC
TALULAH GOSH-BIS-VELOCETTE-I LUDICROUS-JUNE BRIDES-
SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA-
BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER 
USM-DISCO PISTOL-COMET GAIN-STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-
SPARKLEHORSE- BUZZCOCKS-10 BENSON-WEDDING 
PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-SUEDE-CUD-
GENE-PRIMAL SCREAM-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE-
CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-PIXIES-MANICS-
MARINE RESEARCH-CHAMELEONS-GORKYS ZYGOTIC MYNCI
       plus many more in the same vein......
     
     for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list
         email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk

   and there is a website with Offbeat and general indiepop info and 
   articles, and links to other cool sites.
   http://www.offbeatsheffield.com

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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 14:04:26 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:04:26 EST
Subject: Sinister: the tape tree
Message-ID: <b9.a915b09.27945d6a@aol.com>

i had no idea that people would be so interested in tape trading. it's 
wonderful, but overwhelming. if anyone out there has done this sort of thing 
before...please advise on the best way to proceed. there is no possible way i 
can make that many tapes all by myself in a timely fashion. i thought maybe 
we could do it like a chain letter or something. i just don't know about 
implementing that sort of thing. Suggestions are appreciated. thank you.

I guess for now I will compile a list of everyone's addresses and forward 
them on to everyone that responded. I sure hope no one has a problem with 
that. and you can all sort of pick and choose whom you will take the first 
trade with. Of course, I will keep all the cute boys names...cause I am just 
like that. 

the more the merrier, so if still interested just email your address to me. 
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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 14:29:24 2001
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:29:24 -0500
Subject: Sinister: why do i keep meeting people who get paid to take their clothes off???
Message-ID: <F5f2LTrpwACkWHZqYW800014b6a@hotmail.com>

lesson learned this morning, don't call you're supervisor sweetie. 
especially if he's a 35 year old married italian man. i didn't mean to, it 
just completely slipped. we both decided that it didn't happen and not to 
bring it up ever again. great, my old supervisor thinks i have a crush on 
him...
strangefruit toronto happened. it was great, and it's gonna be a monthly 
event, yay. i lost my clientele cd though, small sacrifice i guess. i want 
strangefruit to happen every week, and that matt lived here too...heehee. oh 
yeah, and while i'm at impossible dreams, i want belle & sebastian to bluddy 
tour.
i worked at the homohop here in toronto. i have learned that handing out 
condoms and giving out safe sex advice is a great way to break the ice. good 
thing i'm not catholic...i'd never get off my knees. but man, how is it that 
i keep hanging out with strippers, hustlers, and porn stars. there were 
these little guys, who btw aren't old enough to buy alcohol, who had just 
finished filming a twink video. this one little cutie was all happy that he 
was gonna be on the cover. how do i meet these guys??? maybe it was because 
i had a fist full of condoms and was dispensing advice as to what the better 
lube is...maybe.
oooh oooh oooh, i just went and got a tea, and yay...the supervisors are 
finally hiring some cute boys. gee, my husband turns 31 today, and i go all 
boy crazy, that's gonna boost his ego, let me tell you.
i'm reading what i just wrote and i'm a little scatterbrained lately. my 
best friend just moved to london and i'm a little lost. so if any of you 
meet a stubborn dutch boy named paul, just hug him...
where is my brain...
ttyl sweeties...
a.



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From EvolSis at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 14:46:09 2001
From: EvolSis at xxx.com (EvolSis at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:46:09 EST
Subject: Sinister: here is some lego
Message-ID: <8c.1110b0d.27946731@aol.com>

http://drew.corrupt.net/lp/series2.html

i hope you all enjoy it

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From shiplore at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 16:59:21 2001
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:59:21 -0500
Subject: Sinister: working overtime on the seduction line
Message-ID: <F193ZuNY1SWoBDyseVw0000bcf7@hotmail.com>

ah ha. another confirmed Bay stater.
I don't want to change the world. I'm not looking for a New England.
etc.

welcome
and happy birthday to Angel. It's nice to *not* be the oldest listee at the 
wee age of 26. especially since Ms. Morrison makes me go all humbert 
humbert.

it's snowing today.
May 25th I'm visiting hawaii. I rented my first offical car today. for the 
trip. I have relatives (my grandfather and his brother were both in WWII and 
both fought in the pacific...therefore they both mustered through Pearl at 
one point of other...my grandfathers brother ((great uncle? isit? )) loved 
it and moved there to start his family...so his whole family which i've 
never met....lives there...and will put me up and show me a round a bit..)
so that should allow me to save on hotels... I'm thinking....hostels, 
relatives and hotels... depending on the appropiate nights. and whatever 
venue is appropiate for the nights debauchery.. If I want to hit on 
frighteningly-buff ANZAC girls, then I must stay at hostels. If I'm looking 
for island princesses then it's hotels... if I need my rest...then it's the 
relatives. ah. but where would the lisa morrisons of the world be..? :)

cheers to LauraL and brier (an ex-baystater)

see how that all came together..
very cyclical.
stay warm and dry except in bed.
jb




>From: Stacey Shackford <dahling at xxx.net>
>Reply-To: Stacey Shackford <dahling at usa.net>
>To: sinister at missprint.org
>Subject: Sinister: working overtime on the seduction line
>Date: 14 Jan 2001 23:01:10 EST
>
>hullo lovelies!
>
>After several long years away, I have broken down and rejoined the list. 
>And
>it seems so lovely! We appear to have loads of talented, creative writers. 
>I
>must admit to being a wee bit intimidated. I spend my life writing about
>criminals, victims, degenerates and everyone in between, and at the end of 
>the
>day i don't have much of anything creative to say. But I enjoy cuddling in 
>bed
>with my laptop and reading lots of pretty sinister posts.
>I don't have much important to say really, but I was so excited to be 
>exempt
>from nursery status that I felt compelled to post something! First things
>first. Everyone seems so ill! I hope John John dear is not the only
>sinisterene toting around flasks of soup. I get worried, you know. And 
>there
>are far too many sinisterenes chatting their nights away and not sleeping
>*ahem stoo and ken*.
>Mummyness aside...
>As means of introduction... I am Stacey. I am 23 (24 on Feb. 26, if you'd 
>like
>to send prezzies :). I first joined the list in 97/98. I think I was number 
>80
>or something (is that possible???) and left when I went to Greece to study
>archaeology. I never came back - to the list that is, I'm back from Greece. 
>I
>currently live in Massachusetts and work as a crime reporter (if you hadn't
>figured that out already, add that to my list of sinisterene concerns).
>I'd like to be able to reflect on the good ole days of sinister, but 
>honestly
>I don't remember much. :) I remember miss erin lewis, the angel from
>California who made me my first copy of Tigermilk, back when it was still 
>the
>most hard to get and coveted item ever. Is erin still around? I owe her a
>prezzie. I remember the first crush list - it was managed by some poor
>unsuspecting listee, and St. Lucy or whoever got all the votes because of 
>her
>foxy photo. I remember my very first tape exchange, and Nick Dastoor and 
>some
>other boy constantly taunting each other. Great fun. Katrina and David 
>would
>feed our insatiable hunger for band gossip and patiently supply answers to 
>our
>neverending barrage of trivial questions.
>Awww...
>Anyway, I'm sure the list is much better now :) At the very least, it seems
>more thoughtful and substantial. Yet still very cozy, which is what I love 
>so
>much about belle and sebastian fans. I have never met a listee, but I'm 
>sure
>that'll change soon enough. Enough about me already.
>I heard the chirp of a poetry parrot earlier and thought it sounded lovely.
>Mind if I feed it?
>
>Seniors, by Mr. Alberto Rios (not me! unfortunately :)
>
>William cut a hole in his Levi's pocket
>so he could flop himself out in class
>behind the girls so the other guys
>could see and shit what guts we all said.
>All Konga wanted to do over and over
>was the rubber band trick, but he showed
>everyone how, so nobody wanted to see
>anymore and one day he cried, just cried until his parents took him away
>forever.
>Maya had a Hotpoint refridgerator standing in his living room, just for his
>family to show
>anybody who came in that they could afford it.
>
>Me, I got a french kiss, finally, in the catholic
>darkness, my tongue's farthest half vacationing
>loudly in another mouth like a man in Bermudas,
>and my body jumped against a flagstone wall,
>I could feel it through her thin, almost
>nonexistent body: I had, at that moment,
>a hot girl on a summer night, the best of all
>the things we tried to do. Well, she
>let me kiss her anyway, all over.
>
>Or it was just a flagstone wall
>with a flow in the stone, an understanding cavity
>for burning young men with smooth dreams -
>the true circumstance is gone, the true
>circumstances about us all then
>are gone. But when I kissed her, all water,
>she would close her eyes, and they into somewhere
>would disappear, whether she was there
>or not, I remember her, clearly, and she moves
>around the room, sometimes, until I sleep.
>
>I have lain on the desert in watch
>low in the back of a pick-up truck
>for nothing in particular, for stars, for
>the things behind stars, and nothing comes
>more than the moment: always now, here in a truck
>the moment again to dream of making love and sweat,
>this time to a woman, or even to all of them
>in some allowable way, to those boys, then
>who couldn't cry, to the girls before they were
>women, to friends, me on my back, the sky over me
>pressing its simple weight into her body
>on me, into the bodies of them all, on me.
>
>Oh my, that was quite long! and a bit dirty, I'm afraid. Ah well. That's 
>what
>they made scroll keys for.
>Night all. Be good.
>
>~dahling
>
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From gogron at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 15 21:05:36 2001
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:05:36 +0000
Subject: Sinister: ... (that's an ellipsis)
Message-ID: <3A63661F.E3438FB2@netscapeonline.co.uk>

wrote;
about hours or seconds of days.
felt;
about life or things maybe may.
seen;
mille doucement;
seen:
dreams;
thought:
where am I?
what can I say?
decided:
this I shall do.
action of that:
here's something true.
weakness is virtue,
as strength be my guide,
and though I am weak,
I shall not hide,
for this is our world,
the link of our souls,
and here is the space,
that fortune, alone, knows.

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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 21:31:15 2001
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:31:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: seems like im in demand but ive been framed again
Message-ID: <F1044lcFAcYNpGZl6um00006b38@hotmail.com>

sinister

right now it is 23.59, 14/12/2001 and i am sitting in front of my comp
(this will hopefully get sent 2mo as i am offline- will paste into hotmail)
listening to the offspring, ixnay on the hombre will come on any minute
(recorded on the same md)

hmm
i need more music to wallow in

and ive been thinking


today when i was at work
eagle eye cherry 'save tonite' came on
and that me sad
it made me think of my b/f and
the beginning and
when he first left
and
how things are just a big mess now

i know what i want with him
and from him
and although now
i think he realises better what it is
that will make us a work
i fear its too late
too late
and i am just desperatly grasping at any stray threads
that i can see
but i think theyre just coming loose in my hand
and getting lost
like threads do

the other nite
before i went to sleep
i had the most horrid vivid scary pictures
in front of my eyes
in one of them i shot myself in the head
and i contemplated everything
that would be affected if i did kill myself
and that scared me
:(

and i also keep thinking how shite things are now
things in general
but i knew this would be a bad year
coz 2000 was good
but 1999 was awful
(i feel like i did in '99)
but this is a bad year to be bad
because this is the year when everything happens
i sit my final exams
i leave school
i go onto something else
i turn 18
i stand in court against my dad for their divorce
we probably will have to move to another house
coz this one costs too much
mortgage and stuff
coz my dads a liar
but i like this house
i love my room

this year is an end
and a beginning
one of no doubt many
but this is my first real one
and
im awful scared about it all

on the bright side
2000 brought me friends
real friends
and i still have them

sorry about this post
i hope
i hope ive not pissed anybody off with it

thats all

xox

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 21:47:36 2001
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:47:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Kev Lies Near At Hand
Message-ID: <LAW-F12m9lHiu3fQtYd000019d8@hotmail.com>


I've been out there for a while.

Knitwear is very important.

That's what I heard. And I do in part believe.

The boy 96 (it's a boy) was enigmatic about May, scarlet, free things, 
unfree things for all I know. He is the list's greatest enigmatist.
Where does Poland come in? I just can't work it out.

The geezer Miller said that he'd been hoping to make manual alterations to 
Tom Waits stickers.

And I really wish he'd had a pen on him.

Edna Welthorpe remarked that only Americans can make numbers romantic. And I 
have to hand it to her again. What? The palm. Mind you, my maths teacher was 
Nigerian, and was in love with mathematics. Is that the same as finding 
numbers romantic? It's a ballpark figure.

(Speaking of which: Murder! Tonight! In Maryon Park! Because exclamation 
marks, which I have a sudden inkling my father used to call 'crash signs', 
beat mere commas.)

She (Edna, Mrs) also remarked that "Kill Uncle" was underrated. Is this 
true? One wants to pick perhaps three songs as evidence, no, make it four: 
Sing Your Life / Mute Witness (which I first heard, and was stunned by, on a 
Welthorpe party tape all of 3.5 years ago. We go back, you know. Where to? 
Oh, her place or mine) / Driving Your Girlfriend Home / and that cover of 
I'm The Last Of The Family Line, by Roland Barthes.

As for Matthew Rose - one question. Where will you go when it's over?

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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 05:41:22 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:41:22 -0800
Subject: Sinister: ...forget my dreams... remember the first time...
Message-ID: <000c01c07f81$c04797c0$07c701d5@aqlzosqt>

Q. what's the difference between job applications and sinister?
A. sinister doesn't ask you FUCKING STUPID questions like 'list 3 skills
which would help you do this job.'   that question made my mind go
immediately blank.  this company processes VAT rebate claims.  how do any of
my attributes fit in to that?  i don't think they want to hear about my
knitting.  and is it a skill, as such, to be able to file things in
alphabetical order?

and so it is that sinister has my jittery attention ce soir.  (i have
discovered that i am suffering from what zen buddhists call 'monkey mind'.
this basically means that i can't sit down to write meaningful, beautiful
poetry for more than 10 mins before i need to make a cup of tea/phone my
beloved/check my email/list all b&s songs in alphabetical order...)

paul said that he gets free coke at his new job.  i reckon my EVIL employers
would get a lot more out of people if they gave out subsidised drugs... one
of the supervisors downs barbituates all day but she has narcolepsy.  i
never met anyone else in real life who had narcolepsy - river phoenix in my
own private idaho carried it off a lot more sexily than she does, to be
honest.

i was thinking the best way to get contributions to my webzine off
sinisterines would be to run it as a competition.  there seems to be a
certain glory-hunting spirit amongst us... so whoever sends me the best
poem/story/review will not only receive the international fame that
automatically accompanies publication in buzzwords, but also huge p-r-o-p-s
on the list and a goody bag full of my unwanted xmas presents. currently in
the lead and laying down the gauntlet to veteran wordsmith alasdair cook is
greg... tune in next week for more exciting literary deathmatches.

yesterday i found my housemate in the kitchen carefully listening to
tigermilk, which i'd left lying around.  made me smile.  i should really
return the favour by trying to get into her music taste - modern jazz and
klezma (traditional jewish music)...  i think i have a real problem
listening to music without words for very long.  last night i tried an
experiment and listened to some beethoven cello sonatas while reading danish
philosophy. (no, i really did.)  but then i couldn't get to sleep because i
was worrying about the influence of kant's categorical imperative on
kierkegaard's thought... that kind of thing can really stress a girl out.

then i had a dream about my (other) housemate cutting my hair... this is odd
because *she* dreamed about cutting my hair a few nights ago... i can't help
thinking of samson and delilah and how maybe my spiritual strength resides
in my hair... and her cutting it has something to do with her going out with
my ex-soulmate (is this an oxymoron?) and plunging me into depression... or
not.

yours in middle class, shallow angst,

archel xxx

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From marshalltindall at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 23:39:01 2001
From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:39:01 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Yay, I'm back
Message-ID: <F250RdDhCCEhaAQWZlz0001a72c@hotmail.com>

After 8 months of not being on the list and after barely any time out of the 
nursery I once again can enjoy the wonderful world of Sinister.  Uuuum, 
since I didn't get to comment on it before Fold Your Hands Child was a 
really great album and I also got Looper's album.  It hasn't left my CD 
player for weeks. Any way, glad to be back, although no one probably 
remembers me.

Marshall
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From marshalltindall at xxx.com  Mon Jan 15 23:56:11 2001
From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:56:11 -0700
Subject: Sinister: I don't know?
Message-ID: <F138a0ZkfzDskqC5Etr00006ad0@hotmail.com>

Someone e-mail to let me know if I'm actually sending to the list,please!!!
I don't want to bug Honey.  If I don't hear back I'm going to have to bug 
her.

Thanks,
Marshall
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From marshalltindall at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 00:18:17 2001
From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:18:17 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Thanks, but stop
Message-ID: <F308J6E73ztlU8mrrl50001ae4f@hotmail.com>

Thank you to everyone who let me know I was sending.  You can stop now, much 
appreciatedand if this constitutes some sort of list violation I'm sorry it 
won't happen again.  Three posts in one hour, uhg, sorry.

Thanks again,

Marshall

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From Ahab0125 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 04:51:10 2001
From: Ahab0125 at xxx.com (Ahab0125 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:51:10 EST
Subject: Sinister: Poetry Parrot.
Message-ID: <91.592b038.27952d3e@aol.com>

Well,
A Llew sent me a parrot which I would like to dispatch (in either sense of 
the word) as quickly as possible, so:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------
Eyes Fastened with Pins

How much death works,
No one knows what a long
Day he puts in.  The little
Wife always alone
Ironing death's laundry.
The beautiful daughters
Setting death's supper table.
The neighbors playing
Pinochle in the backyard
Or just sitting on the steps
Drinking beer.  Death,
Meanwhile, in a strange
Part of town looking for
Someone with a bad cough,
But the address is somehow wrong,
Even death can't figure it out
Among all the locked doors...
And the rain beginning to fall.
Long windy night ahead.
Death with not even a newspaper
To cover his head, not even
A dime to call the one pining away,
Undressing slowly, sleepily,
And stretching naked
On death's side of the bed.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------
The author, Charles Simic, was born in 1938, and currently teaches American 
literature and creative writing at the University of New Hampshire, which is 
in New Hampshire.  The parrot, however, is now on its way to Scotland where 
it will demand a poem from JenOwl.
                                                                              
           James
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 10:28:21 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:28:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: A quickie
Message-ID: <20010116102821.5436.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com>

Travis are better than Belle And Sebastian cos they
tour and B+S don't and that's really crap.
Come on, I mean, if this were a uni course (which its
not) I would have to give B+S ten out of ten top
bananas for doing the work, handing in the essays and
stuff, but as for the class presentation and
attendance? YOU FAIL!

So if you don't mind, I'm switching allegiance,
although Travis' music is crap, Fran is quite cute,
actually, and lets think about it this way:
I have been a B+S fan for nearly two years. In that
time I could have had a baby, called him Haakon (My
current fave name for having a baby boy.. something to
do with it being a traditional viking Norwegian name
for kingly types, plus, it sounds way cool) and sent
him to some sort of nursery school. Even Elastica have
released another thing in that time. (sort of). Angel
has become a TV series spin off. My brother has left
school, taken a gap year and is now at uni. I've
erm... done stuff. B+S have done... well, albums..
fair enough... and work for other interesting
things... fair enough.... but no gigs.

Travis, meanwhile, did loads of gigs without me having
to get irrate about it and post things on lists saying
"Why haven't they done a tour?" they just got on with
it and did it.

So, I'm going to try and force myself to stomach a bit
of Travis, and be a spy in sinister, and say things
like "B+S are crap, travis are much better" etc etc.
Or maybe I'll go one step further and return to my
Drum n Bass thing. Or perhaps think about being a more
committed.. fan... of...other stuff I like, rather
than waste my time waiting for B+S to tour.

I'm bored, gimme a show.

pleeease?

Idles

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From andy_flynnie at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 10:57:59 2001
From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:57:59 -0000
Subject: Sinister: A quickie
Message-ID: <F118sQSktLxHbHucVXq0000029f@hotmail.com>

I have to say....It is a bit lame!

It wouldn't take much to do a one off gig now and again would it?




>From: idleberry <idleberry at xxx.com>
>Reply-To: idleberry <idleberry at yahoo.com>
>To: sinister at missprint.org
>Subject: Sinister: A quickie
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:28:21 -0800 (PST)
>
>Travis are better than Belle And Sebastian cos they
>tour and B+S don't and that's really crap.
>Come on, I mean, if this were a uni course (which its
>not) I would have to give B+S ten out of ten top
>bananas for doing the work, handing in the essays and
>stuff, but as for the class presentation and
>attendance? YOU FAIL!
>
>So if you don't mind, I'm switching allegiance,
>although Travis' music is crap, Fran is quite cute,
>actually, and lets think about it this way:
>I have been a B+S fan for nearly two years. In that
>time I could have had a baby, called him Haakon (My
>current fave name for having a baby boy.. something to
>do with it being a traditional viking Norwegian name
>for kingly types, plus, it sounds way cool) and sent
>him to some sort of nursery school. Even Elastica have
>released another thing in that time. (sort of). Angel
>has become a TV series spin off. My brother has left
>school, taken a gap year and is now at uni. I've
>erm... done stuff. B+S have done... well, albums..
>fair enough... and work for other interesting
>things... fair enough.... but no gigs.
>
>Travis, meanwhile, did loads of gigs without me having
>to get irrate about it and post things on lists saying
>"Why haven't they done a tour?" they just got on with
>it and did it.
>
>So, I'm going to try and force myself to stomach a bit
>of Travis, and be a spy in sinister, and say things
>like "B+S are crap, travis are much better" etc etc.
>Or maybe I'll go one step further and return to my
>Drum n Bass thing. Or perhaps think about being a more
>committed.. fan... of...other stuff I like, rather
>than waste my time waiting for B+S to tour.
>
>I'm bored, gimme a show.
>
>pleeease?
>
>Idles
>
>=====
>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke  we're all smoking our corduroys 
>in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing??
>
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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 11:55:51 2001
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:55:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: ViRuS AleRt!
Message-ID: <20010116115551.26648.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone!

I hope honey wouldn't mind me doing that... 
I've just received an email from the network dept here
in our uni about 2 new viruses that seem to be really
really dangerous... the message I received said:

iprortant notification
1. 2 new viruses have been discovered recently. They
are sent by email under the subject CALIFORNIA IBM or
GIRL THING.
IBM has announced that they are really powerful, much
more powerful than LOVE II. Even worse there's no way
you can cope with them as they break into your hard
disk and  destroy every information there and also
destroy Netscape Navigator and Internet Explorer. Do
not try to open anything with those subjects; there
are very few people who know about these viruses.

2. the following is a message from UCL. You should
pass it on to others as soon as possible. If you
receive an email with a screen saver titled BUDDLY SIP
as an attachement, do not download! Delete it at once!
If you download it you will instantly lose all your
hard disc data! What we know is that the virus spread
a few day ago and it's very dangerous! America Online
confirms that no antivirus programme, no matter how
updated, can cope with it or destroy it! 

Ok brothers and sisters... take care and watch out for
these new viruses!! they can eat you up in a blink!
also watch out for the new navidad virus! it comes
with an attachement called "emmanuel"! No matter what
you do, no matter who the sender of that email is, do
not download the 'emmanuel' attachement!! I know cause
I did download it and it ruined all my programmes...
Sorry for no B&S context; I thought I should warn you!
 hugs,
       VeL xxx


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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Jan 16 12:38:19 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:38:19 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Get bees away from here, they're flying
Message-ID: <200101161233.MAA07086@missprint.org>

Hi,

Lovely, I had an interview for a job, but they want it on the day of 
my exam, so I can't do it, and it's now going to be rescheduled for 
the God knows Whenth day of 2001.  Probably won't get one now... grr.

But all that talk of sadness isn't good you know, what all of you sobbing 
people need to do is to listen to Mr Tambourine Man, preferably the 
Bob Dylan original version.  I just realised how much I liked that song 
when I listened to it, and it made me forget about the day, until tomorrow.

And write more *lovely* Sinister emails about what you had for breakfast, 
while listening to B&S and then feel better because of it.  This morning 
I listened to "The State I'm in" and I'm feeling happy again.

Well I've done ok for my first exam, only messed up one small bit of it 
I think, so I'm happy.  3 more exams to go, more revision... but then, 
revision can be good sometimes.  A bit like when I was reading the Sinister 
FAQ, it was very long, but it made me know more about our lovely mailing 
list afterwards.  If you haven't read it yet you should, it a little gem.

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html

It's extra nice when you listen to 3.. 6.. 9 seconds of light whilst reading 
that, it reminds me that this list is Beautiful, only slightly mental :)

Hehe that was a rubbish way of getting list contents into my post.  Hmmmmm 
better go back to do more revision now, good luck everyone else who has 
exams, if you have finished your exams already, grrrr, but well done 
anyway for getting through it. :)

So, in summary, listen to Mr Tambourine Man, The State I'm in, and 369 
seconds of light EP, oh and listen to some Terrorvision as well just 
for the sake of it :)

Music and Red Bulls
Ken
======================================================================
Oooh get me away from here, I'm dying.  Sing me a song to set me free,
nobody writes them like they used to so it may as well be me.
- Belle & Sebastian

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From honey at xxx.org  Tue Jan 16 12:58:02 2001
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:58:02 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: ViRuS AleRt!
In-Reply-To: <20010116115551.26648.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101161224370.14462-100000@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Have to follow this up quickly.  People mean well when they send on
virus warnings but please bear in mind most are hoaxes.  That's why the
FAQ says contact me first if you have received one and want to tell
others.  The Girl Thing, California IBM and Buddly SIP virus warnings
are hoaxes, pointless mails started off by people with nothing better
to do with their time than prey on others.  The Emmanuel virus is a
real virus, but if you get it you'll know about it very quickly.

I've made sure the Sinister list software in principle won't pass on
viruses, so you shouldn't get infected by any mail from this list (or
at least those known so far).  In general don't open attachments to
mails you receive that you don't trust 100% - contact someone else to
ask if unsure.  When you receive a virus "warning", go to
http://www.google.com or a similar search engine and type in the name
of the virus in double quotes and the word "virus" and maybe "hoax" (so
in this case:  "girl thing" virus hoax).  The links you find should
tell you within seconds whether this is a hoax or not.  It constantly
amazes me how large IT departments don't do this, and pass hoaxes on to
all their users.  And yet they get paid more than you or me.

If you passed this warning on to others, mail them back now and ask
them not to pass it on.  If you receive more virus warnings, don't
send them to the list, send to me if you want me to check.

A couple of other things.  Whenever I remind people of the list
guidelines at:

	http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html

someone tells me I'm picking on them and being mean.  I'm not!  But
please re-read them if you haven't properly before.  They were
arrived at after some dark times on the list when it nearly died, and
a lot of kind people contributed ideas about how to help.  Like the
Book of Love, they're long and boring.  But posting to the list is a
way of saying "I read them and agree".

Some people might get a little upset if I mention specific rules, and I
don't mean harm!  But please, if you have test messages, one line
replies, jokes etc. to send to the list think again.  Those who have
done so I love dearly so please don't hate me, I'm just being mum!  If
you look in the archives you'll probably see I'm a sinner too.  But we
have to keep a focus with the list, keep it readable, so you all stay.
It's the biggest most stable list I know, and it's because you all keep
caring about it.

The golden rule is to think before you post.  Imagine how the list
would be if the 1400 people here sent in similar posts to yours,
imagine if you'd stay.  See how other people in general act on the
list, and look in the archives and see when it's been strongest and
why.  If you post a lot, hold back a little to let the quieter ones
speak.  If you hardly dare post, post now! we probably want to hear
you most.  Sinister Likes New People.

This is a mailing list about people who like Belle and Sebastian.  It's
a very complicated balance, but you get the picture.

Finally if you haven't yet bought the LP by International Airport on
the new Glasgow based Geographic label, do so now.  I might make it a
list rule :)  Aunt Sadie has this to say about it:

<auntsadie> well, International Airport is like cuddling up and
sleeping under a big pile of leaves forever, with Appendix Out and the
Pastels, although not sexually

This is a true statement.  I'd unreservedly recommend the LP if I
wasn't sure that some of you don't like utterly shambolic meanderings,
and I've mentioned Appendix Out on the list before to little effect.
But I do love them so, it's sort of an obsession of mine :)

If you don't know who Aunt Sadie is, you need to visit the #sinister
chatroom.  I should also mention finally (pant pant) that the chat room
servers internationally are having a lot of trouble right now (from
Romanian hackers, believe it or not) and if anyone's having trouble
connecting they can contact me if they can wait a little for a
response.  #sinister is making it's own arrangements while the
instability lasts, and things should be better soon.  There's some talk
of moving to other servers, but right now I'd beg patience.

Sorry about the lack of movement on the Sillustrations idea: if you
too want to take part, send in pictures NOW!  Yes, I let the deadline
slip badly, sorry.  Too much chocolate at Christmas.  If you don't
know what Sillustrations are, search for them in the archive: if you
can draw, you may want to take part.  Shhh Honey.

I always get in trouble for these mail, please be gentle...
Honey xxx


velocity farewell said:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I hope honey wouldn't mind me doing that...
> I've just received an email from the network dept here
> in our uni about 2 new viruses that seem to be really
> really dangerous... the message I received said:

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From bferneyhough at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 13:38:39 2001
From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:38:39 GMT
Subject: Sinister: NME "Rock" moments
Message-ID: <200101161338.f0GDcdB20290@brookes.ac.uk>

Hello all, just perusing the NME site and looked at the "Top 100 rock moments 
of all time" to see who's number 91 !!!!
 
http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13123,00.html
 
very rock !
 
Ben.
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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 14:33:04 2001
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:33:04 +0000
Subject: Sinister: gigs and stuff
Message-ID: <3A645BA0.C3D75326@ruskin.ac.uk>

hello babies

possibitity of a rant developing here,
but i'll try to keep it relevant...

and before i start this isn't a dig at
idles or andy, it's something i've been
thinking about for a while, their posts
just reminded me.

So, the reason i love belle and
sebastian is because of the songs, full
stop.  Much as i would love to see them
live again, I just get the feeling it
isn't going to happen, that it seems to
cause so much stress (cf Stuart smashing
his guitar in Dublin, cancellation of
dates from illness etc), that any sort
of tour could mean the end of the band,
and that would be the real tragedy.  I'd
much rather have another five albums
(wishful thinking) of lovliness forever,
than a botched tour and a couple of
nights of excitement.

I suppose another thing that i'm
thinking about here is that despite the
fact that b&s have been my fave band for
at least two years, none of the band
have blown their head off or left their
car next to the severn bridge and
disappeared, if you know what i mean.
</dramaqueen>  Not that I'm even
remotely suggesting that anything like
that *would* happen, but one gets
protective about one's favourite band.

does this make any sense?  i'm not
sure.  i'd just like to add that all the
above is purely idle speculation, i
don't have any contact with anyone from
the band or anything, it's just a sort
of gut feeling.

Having said all that, if there are
dates, i'll be at the front of the queue
for tickets with the rest of you...

On the subject of live music (although
that could be argued) i'm going to see
marilyn manson next wednesday, which is
nice, and according to my sources stuart
david/looper are about to confirm an
instore at Oxford Borders in April.

Hmm, i just got marilyn manson and
looper into the same sentence...

xoxo
CarsmileSteve
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From j.botterman at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 15:25:25 2001
From: j.botterman at xxx.uk (Jon Botterman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:25:25 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Bono saves the world again
Message-ID: <3A6467E5.BF5E894B@rave.ac.uk>

Hello listees and listettes

I was looking through the new musical express' one hundred moments that
rocked or something and noticed that number twenty something as voted by
for people who supposedly have brains and can elect governments was "U2
and Ash get together and bring peace to Northern Ireland". I don't
remember that happening! Honestly, people actually spend their time
voting for that. Anyway, that enraged me and I had to share it. B+S got
in at number ninety one for winning a Brit award. Seems that if they'd
got together with Mogwai and teenage fanclub to fight the evil English
and bring peace to Scotland they might have got in the top thirty.

Thinking about it now I probably misread it. On another related subject
are many people going to All Tomorrow's Parties? If not you should, it's
great fun, you get your own chalet and last year I met Stuart Murdoch
who sold me a Sonic Youth T-shirt. This year seems dominated by post and
math rock. If that's your cup of sugary tea then you should go. If not
spend one hundred pounds on yourself in some other way. This is not an
advertisement.

I feel I should write shit loads like most other e-mails but I won't as
I normally stop reading at about this point.

Cheers a lot,

Jon.

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From starpiekat at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 15:43:38 2001
From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:43:38 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Mint and Lime and Rum - RUN!
Message-ID: <20010116154338.92077.qmail@web9611.mail.yahoo.com>

Hiya!

Ooh ho ho ho you little fools. Gone are the days of regular Jeepster updates of
whats happening to our favourite bands, what the songs they are currently
recording RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK AND OUR STOMACHS DIGEST SUSHI! and
what colour Stuart M has dyed his hair... when they finally announce a tour I
expect to hear about it from my boloney sandwich. I'm going to turn into a
jewist I think I'm not sure why but I have really big cravings for raw meat and
onions. Either thats my true spirituality coming out, I'm pregnant, or I am in
fact in a Raymond Chandler novel. 

America. The 1920s. Noo Yoik. A detective novel. Its the place to be. Does
anyone want to start a Speakeasy with me? For short we'll call it "the speak".
Oohh yeah and we can have gangster (not gangsta!) names! Carsmile can be um...
urr... well our names will be given to us soon enough from da underground. I'm
fed up of 2001 already. I'd like to dress entirely in the style of the 1920s,
however the corsets aren't easily avaliable. My friend bought a gold plated or
something corset. She looks a tit. And is that because THEY STAND OUT MILES? I
think it might just be so.

Isobel Campbell had a shag with Stuart Murdoch! Urrgh! Lets all write it on
toilets all over the nation! I knew that headscarf must have had a secret dirty
reason. Was it to hide Stuarts semen after he wanked in her hair?

That was disgusting wasn't it!!!

OR was it used as a blindfold in bondage session? Oh bondage! Up yours! Can I
just have a nice cup of tea and forget I ever said that now please? 

I've been listening to the Apples in Stereo lots! They're Gu(umlaut)t!

Do you lot sometimes indulge in that pass-time too? Whilst reading
Cryptonomicon and playing Solitaire on your laptop that doesn't have a net
connection or cd-rom so might as well just be a plugged in typewriter? And
having strange cravings for sushi that the next day lead to you buying a book
on sushi so you damn well comprehend the stuff? I'm sure you do.

Did Idleberry really make a comment about Travis? Really? Like they actually
mean something in anyones life apart from vague blurry irritation which if
provoked leads to an over the top explosion of impotent frustration and rage?
Not that I'm impotent mind you me. Oh no. That was just a rumour and he was gay
anyway!!! Bastard!! I've had the best times with B&S on my headphones, walking
walking walking. I've had one of my worst B&S times when they've been onstage
with a lot of other people watching them and being FUCKWITS, cf. Bowlie. If
you're going to diss them just for not playing a show, then I well, saying "I
refer thee to Travis" that would be a devastating insult if anyone said it to
me but if you take it literally then...

*blank look*

*mouth opening and shutting but no words coming out* (*)

I wanna GO! GO BABY!

Sarah
x

PS - I really do apologise for what rude stuff I typed about S&I before. But
I'm not going to delete it.
PPS - How do you do an umlaut anyway? PC British keyboard.

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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 15:55:57 2001
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:55:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Winter is (almost) over, picnics are back.
Message-ID: <384713183.979660557707.JavaMail.root@web147-mc>

Hello Hello

Well, after Christmas time, exams time. It's been like this for four years
now, I am getting used to it. Still I can't really get used to study
properly. I have the worst exam this afternoon and all I have been doing for
a week is hanging around in pyjamas, watching telly, watching my flatmates
studying, and watching the rain outside: yes ladies and gentlemen, it's been
raining in Barcelona this week. I am not used to that either.

But it doesn't depress me because...picnic time is back!! Yes, it is.  As a
proof I can tell you that a picnic is planned in 2 weeks time here. We'll
have Pedro Miller, Miss Maria and Jordi as guests stars from Sinister, plus
numerous members of Segundosdeluz, it seems. A mixed and multilingual
picnic, kind of. Thanks to the auction Maria will cook for us, and after
that we'll all go and shake our small (for me) or tall (for Jordi) bodies at
Hefner's gig.  That will be my last week-end in Barcelona and it looks like
it's going to be great. It's also going to be the last one,  though. Sigh.
Barcelona is such a great place to live, believe me.

Well I will also shake my body at some gigs in London, at least I hope so.
And eat greasy chips and walk along the river and all that kind of stuff you
do when you're living in London, like paying hundreds of pounds for a tube
travelcard.

On another note, here is the tip of the week about how to make studying a
bit more funny: when you write "goods and services" in French or in Spanish
the first letters become B and S (like in Bienes y Servicios for example).
So when you write quickly in class and take note you get to write B&S for
that. Which makes all the studying thing more fun when you read your
marketing notes and imagine it's about Belle and Sebastian.

I can hear the exam paper calling my name. Oh well, at least I can write
about Belle and Sebastian and explain to the teacher that "I am foreign so I
didn't get it all, sorry".

Have a good week all of you
Elena


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From sayyestointernationalsocialism at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 16:06:12 2001
From: sayyestointernationalsocialism at xxx.com (Nick Horne)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:06:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Those First Impressions.
Message-ID: <20010116160612.24490.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com>

The writer believes in common courtesy above most
other things and, as such, feels that he should
introduce himself to those listees to whom he remains
a stranger.  He is telling you the positions to which
reality has driven his own life, and he thinks you may
be interested enough to consider them.


He is a dandy and a do-gooder; a brick and a bohemian;
a fop but not, we�re told, a Fabian.

He enjoys inventing curiously-mixed similes and
installing them into the popular consciousness through
the medium of idle chatter.  His latest offering is
�Gay as a bastard� (eg. Of course they�re staring; you
look gay as a bastard in that blouse.)

He spends his spare time scanning internet diaries for
references to himself.  He may, eventually, find the
motivation to write his own web-journal, making such
vicarious affirmations unnecessary.  References to
himself in every entry!  Just *imagine*!  

He enjoys fine wine, dancing, and class warfare.

He has a habit of throwing odd references and quotes
into his sentences without acknowledging them, just to
see whether anyone will notice and interject in order
to appear learned.  Nobody notices.  As such, he has
not yet been prosecuted for plagiarism.

In the interest of balance, he also habitually
attributes his own words to random figures of greater
renown.  (If he's honest, this is about toying with
concepts of authorship and authority, and the blind
respect accorded to any words placed within
quote-marks.  A matter on which Rainer Maria Rilke, of
course, often wrote).

He can regularly be found preaching outside tube
stations, his medium being well-polished cufflinks.

He recently received three separate offers of sexual
congress within the space of five minutes.  This is
because he looks far wealthier than he really is.

He spends more money than he can afford on Christmas
records (Low�s Christmas, The Fortuna Pop!
Compilation, Spector things�) in the belief that this
will remind him of being young and feeling magical
again.  In fact, it simply reminds him of being young
and having no money and how you had to moan at your
parents until they relented and bought you things.

He doesn�t *do* girlfriends.

Recognising that we exist in motion, he struggles to
find the necessary distance from which to comment upon
himself.  He occasionally even feels the need, for
instance, to revert to using the Third Person. 
Ultimately, this all means that he quotes the words of
Others far too regularly, in order to pin himself down
in a suitably concise manner.  The words of six year
olds appear truer to him than many of his own
well-worn wonderings:

�I had a dream
 Not mean things this time.
 There was music crying last night
 I held a lot of things belonging to spring
 But when I woke up
 They would not come with me.�
    -   Jane Reis.

He is a member of the Baxendale 24-hour mini-Massive.

He was approached by a gypsy, two weeks before New
Year, who told him that he would be Very Lucky In Love
for the remainder of the year.  He spent the next two
weeks at home with only his parents for company.

He doesn�t *do* boyfriends.

Lairy men regularly hum to themselves upon passing him
in the street.  Goodness alone knows what that's all
about.

He goes to gigs and spends much of the time bemoaning
the fact that none of the sounds being played are
anywhere *near* as good as his own pop songs.

He has yet to complete a single one of his own pop
songs. 

That said, his latest creation is a gorgeous slice of
pun-pop, with synth cascades and overwhelmed lyrics of
meek betrayal.  The working-title?  �Numan, All Too
Numan�.

This week�s favourite quote is by Theodore Roethke:

�I�m someone else right now.
 Don�t tell my hands.�


Mme. Nicholas Passant x

Some would bemoan the lack of content.  But you must,
at least, enjoy the *form*.


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From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 16 16:54:51 2001
From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:54:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: optiplex unlimited
Message-ID: <20010116165451.56985.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com>

dear sinister people,

here is my once-a-month lead balloon message, feel
free to ignore or declare undying love for me as you
will. as I waded through approximately 14,000 digests
(give or take 13,993) over the past couple of days, so
I'm posting, damnit. it's always so hard to start
these things... and there's no content, so skip if
you're looking for that sort of thing. maybe we should
all make the collective decision to call non-b&s
related messages "content" since that's really what
this seems to be all about. and I've been on the list
nearly a year... where does the time go?

since lists of advantages/disadvantages of being
short/tall/brittany spears have appeared and I've
found them amusing, so I'm going to add: trying
desperatly not to hit your head on the london tube
cars, as they are Quite Small. I don't understand; was
england a land of midgets in the early 20th century?
was the engineer a sadistic bastard? why are all these
people looking at me? which is a nice segue into:

eric's london experience. I've been in fair london
since friday, and it's certaintly been fair. the
weather has been beautiful, and I've only been nearly
been hit by cars 10 times, as I'm slow and don't
remember that the cars drive on the wrong side of the
road here. I shouldn't judge. it's all relative, after
all. I've also found that cashiers in stores find it
amusing to effect an american accent when they thank
me for shopping; one actually said, "thanks y'all".
you can't make this stuff up. I'm acutely aware of
being an american for the first time in my life, not
that this is a bad thing.

that's all from me, I suppose. how do you people
manage to write such long messages? either I lead a
terribly boring life or the fact that 1400 people end
up reading (deleting, whatever) this inhibits me. I
vote for the latter, of course.

-eric

ps a big howdy to jp and lila, who are both super
great.





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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Jan 16 20:11:29 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:11:29 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Check Your Bucket!
References: <20010116154338.92077.qmail@web9611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c07ff8$a91f6d80$5f62253e@itjfvkli>

I knew that headscarf must have had a secret
dirty
> reason. Was it to hide Stuarts semen after he wanked in her hair?
>

Thank you for this, Kipper, it was the highlight of my life so far.

But only because I wasn't at that U2 and Ash gig where Bono made Gerry Adams
and Frank "it's a cracker" Carson hold their hands up over his head like in
a boxing match with two winners. Of course it wasn't Gerry Adams and Frank
Carson, it was David Trimble and John Hume. I think. You must remember it,
it was on the news and everything. It's a little known fact that David
Trimble wanted to wear his Orangemen's outfit for the occasion, but Bono
dissuaded him. "But you always dressed up as a tomato on your "Pop" world
tour!" cried Trimble. "Look, if you promise not to wear your Orangemen's
outfit tonight, I promise to dress normally (apart from some orange
sunglasses) from now on" replied the quick-thinking Bono. And that is how U2
went normal again *and* made a major contribution to the peace process.
Isn't it ironic that U2 shoud be fiddling about with their mobile phones on
the cover of their new album, yet when their first album came out they had
to use walkie-talkies? Innit?

"Legal Man" was at number one in the prestigious Offbeat top ten of 2000.
Hurrah! It is my ambition to go to Offbeat.

Elenita99 mistakenly gave the impression that I was going to go to a bloody
Hefner gig. I'm not. But it has been raining. Raining like the very devil.
And I am looking forward to sampling Maria's fantastic cooking. I'm going to
eat so much that Hefner will be out of the question. That Darren looks like
he could do with a good square meal. Has anyone invited him? Jordi is both
tall and cute, especially when he's wearing his Gentle Waves "nudie woman"
badge. He is so tall that the badge on his lapel is at about eye level for
me, thus causing all kinds of hormonal discomfort. I didn't know Elenita99
was leaving us :-(

That Merle Haggard/The Pinefox sticker in full:

"I wonder, from where comes this newfound creativity...He's the old The
Pinefox, and yet he's grown. On these songs he flourishes."
-Johnny Cash

"It's great to hear The Pinefox in a very intimate recording and in such
fantastic voice. This is a great record."
- Elvis Costello

"Why was the Avon lady happy? Because The Pine foxed her!"
- Frank "it's a cracker" Carson

I think perhpas B&S, whether by accident or design, are going to do a REM,
whereby they don't tour after every record, they tour after every third
record, thus giving themselves a wide range of new songs to choose from. And
bear in mind that any future concerts are going to have to be without
brontosaurus bassman Stuart David, the rock upon which B&S have always built
their musical foundation.

Merle Haggard has got his name Tipp-Exed along the fretboard of his guitar.
Has he got a Tipp-Ex roadie?

Peter


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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 20:57:55 2001
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:57:55 -0000
Subject: Sinister: falling on 17th street
Message-ID: <F144MwVN7miR9Odutox0000ae24@hotmail.com>


ALIVE IN PLACES WHERE THEY SAY IT'S EASIER TO DIE

I didn't once know, I once didn't know, once I didn't know, that New York 
used to be the capital of the USA. Did you? Of course you did, you're 
American. Like 'blue jeans and chinos'. As the Face put it in June 1989, 
'Holly Would'.

FOR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DAYS

C19 New York had this character called Washington Irving after whom Irving 
place, but not Washington Square, is named. You can see his portrait in the 
'Met', an awfully vague three-letter appellation with so many other 
applications. Edna Welthorpe would be interested to hear about the geezer 
Irving and his 'knickerbocker group', who sounded to me like forerunners of 
Myles nagCopaleen, and thus - 'natch', as they say in Gramercy - of Perelman 
and Barthelme. Or rather, you would think that La Welthorpe would be 
interested, but she isn't. Welthorpe was once, I recall, interested in - was 
it? - Edward Gorey, who is also commemorated some way or other somewhere 
over there. Not the same, of course, as S&G's 'Richard Corey'.


AND THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A BLIZZARD

C19 New York was also called 'The Great Emporium'. I am not quite clear why, 
or why New York State should be the Empire State at all. New Yorkers don't 
know either. Do they?


IT'S A SKETCHY AFFAIR

Barnes&Noble on, um, 5thAvenue and 18th(?)Street claims to be The World's 
Biggest Bookstore. It may be the world's biggest Bookstore, but I'm sure it 
isn't the world's biggest bookshop. For one thing, I didn't find it that 
big. For another, I didn't find it that good. The one really notable thing I 
saw there was a bunch of copies of a Hugh Kenner volume I'd never even heard 
of, The Elsewhere Community, which sounds halfway to essential before he 
'pegs it'. Believe it or not, Kenner has embraced the net and its own 
'elsewhere communities', and he says so plain enough in this new little 
tome. He's not such an old curmudgeon after all. That's *my* job.


ENOUGH TO START COLLISIONS

Yanks make out that they drink loads of coffee, but they don't. The English 
think that they (we) drink a lot of tea, but actually the Yanks are 
tea-obsessed. It's practically a Wildean inversion.


AND BARS AND STARS AND STUFF

In chickfactor#10 "Stephin" 'Merritt', who is a journalist for the 
Independent on Sunday, flatly declared - I won't say '*roundly* declared' - 
that he didn't have a kitchen. I always thought this a whim as absurd as 
saying 'I don't have a front door', or 'My house doesn't have walls'. But 
it's actually *true*. They don't have kitchens in New York, save - one has 
to assume in the restaurants.


THAT'S WHERE WE ALWAYS GO

Lloyd Cole sings on 'The Paranoids' - sorry, 'The Polaroids' - oops! I mean, 
'The Negatives' - 'You gave me a smile / Got off at Astor Place'. I know for 
a fact that that line has been misheard, but no matter. I went to find out 
what LC was on about. There are two Starbucks outlets in Astor Place. Two! 
And it's not that big a road. And all this when the Yanks don't drink coffee 
anyway.


AND TIMES SQUARE, YOU'RE NOT UGLY ANYMORE

Knitwear is very important.
Said that.


I SUPPOSE I'M GOING OVER

Who would think of taking a bomb to the top of the World Trade Centre, until 
the idea had been planted in their head by polite guards demanding their 
baggage and overcoats at the foot of the building? I nearly wrote a song 
about it. But that 'bomb' thing has been kind of done to death in pop, 
hasn't it? Remember Bragg: 'I used to want to plant bombs / At the last 
night of the Proms'. And don't remember Kingmaker, please, really, don't.


SHE KEEPS HER HELLOS AND GOODBYES MINIMAL

Folk in New York have heard of la Welthorpe, by the way. But they can't put 
a face to the name. Can you?


OR RIFLED THROUGH THE TELEPHONE BOOK

I bet that folks will leap to agree with me if I say that strangers in New 
York - random characters on the subway and in the shops - are friendlier 
than round these parts. This one lady pleasantly bawled at me not to me to 
leave my wallet on a counter. And you would not believe - you really would 
not believe - how strangers, sane enough people as far as one can tell, will 
come out with nice comments about your *clothes* over there.


AND THE PEN'S ABOUT TO DIE

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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 21:51:02 2001
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:51:02 EST
Subject: Sinister: Clippity clappity caly caloo, The best part of friendship is you...
Message-ID: <5f.f98acce.27961c46@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Well, I've had an ok week.

When I was very small I used to stay awake till late in the dark in bed, and 
then I wuld gather all my dolls round me and we would have a picnic from food 
I'd saved, and I would pretend we were hiding out in the blackest cave from 
baddies, and we were eating our supplies at midnight, and bringing magic and 
laughter to the darkness and coldness, and playing games and telling little 
stories to keep our spirits up. I couldn't sleep last night, and I had the 
idea that I would do that again. So I did. My company was: Big Rainbow Brite, 
Little Rainbow Brite, Little Patty O'Green from Rainbow Brite, Rainbow 
Brite's Horse Starlite , a wee pink haired doll called Rosie, a wee black 
haired doll called Patch, a dog called scruffy, two owls and a Teddy bear. 
This is all the toys that live in my bed now. There ued to be so much more. 
Still, I suppose a small gathering is better than nothing. And we hid, and we 
eat a packet of salt and vinager crisps, two mini cheese things, and a carton 
of ribena. It was grate fun.


 Today was ace, though. I managed to avoid doing any work at all in school 
(though we got into big trouble in history for laughing during the nazi 
video, and then re-enacting the holocaust with Polly Pockets), then I dogged 
after-school revision and went to the town centre after school instead with 
Debs the Blonde

. We bought bubbles that you blow, from stationary box, and blew them in the 
shopping centre and pretended it was magic to cheer people up, until the 
cleaner lady started moaning that we'd make people slip, so instead we 
mooched off the the More Store (which sells cheap toys). So we bought an 
Etcha-sketch each, and an indian Bow and Arrow and Fake Bendy Plastic Indiana 
Jonesy Knife, and a packet of silver party eye-mask things (which was a 
bargian 10p) and (because there was a cheap valentines day display) we bought 
each other a single red rose, because it was cheesy, and pretended to be 
really surprised when we gave it to each other. So we galloped about the 
shopping centre, firing plastic arrows at old people and getting another 
bollocking from the cleaning lady.

When we went on the bus, we decided to only communicate using the 
Etcha-Sketch boards (which didn't work very well). So she kept writing "Ah ya 
big virgin witch" and I wrote back "At least I didn't lose my virginity when 
I was 12 to a 20 year old" and it went on like that. But it was fun. And when 
we got off the bus, we both wrote "Thank you mr bus driver" on them and 
showed it to him as we were getting off.

And she blew up a Mr Men rubber ring that she also bought and put in on round 
her and under her jacket so she looked deformed, and then said she was going 
to tell her gran she was stung by a bee. But it would have to have been a 
bluddy massive bee.

And when I got home I discovered that I'd won the Ebay bid I made (and it was 
my first ever bid) for the Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealers movie  and it 
plays on UK videos and everything, and I'm so excited now, because I wanted 
to see it so badly when I was little and I never got to, and now I can, and 
I'm completely obsessed with rainbow brite. I even made little home-made 
badges for my school bag. The hard kids ripped them off today when I wore 
them, but I was cunning. I picked up the trampled remains and spent all my 
break cleaning them and re-enforcing them with selotape. 

Another thing I was not so pleased to discover though, was that the Poetry 
Parrot had got into my cupboard and shat all down my Carebears wallpaper. It 
was only metaphorical shite, because i would have really cracked up if it had 
been real shite, but I gave it some magical cake, and decided that I'd better 
post a poem. Everyone so far has done fairly deep, meaningfull things. So I 
think I'll bring some light relief. 

The Being Disaproved Of Game - By Someone I don't know

 Make being disaproved of your hobby
 Make being disapproved of your aim
 Devise new ways of scoring points 
 In the being disapproved of game!
 
 Let them disapprove in their dozens
 Let them disapprove in their hords
 You'll find that being disapproved of
 Build character,bring rewards
 
 Just like any form of striving
 Don't be arrogant; don't coast
 On your high disapproval rating
 Try to be disapproved of the most.
 
 At this point ; if it's useful
 Draw a pie-chart or a graph.
 Show it to someone who disapproves
 When they disapprove just laugh
 
 Count the emotions you provoke:
 Anger,Suspicion,Shock
 One point for each of these and 2
 for every boat you rock
 
 Savour the thrill of risk without
 the fear of getting caught
 Whether they sulk or scream or pout
 Enjoy your new found sport
 
 Meanwhile all those who disapprove
 While you are having fun
 Won't even know your game exsists
 So tell yourself you've won! 

That was it. I think it's a very good poem. Ooh, but do I now have to send 
the parrot on to someone? Well, I will teach it to say "You cannot handle a 
lightsabre you wuss" then I will send it on to the lovely (but useless Jedi) 
Ian Hatcher., who participated in my midnight picnic over the phone.

I didn't know Struan and Bel were taking a walk through the magical fairy 
meadows together (if you know what I mean. Which you probably don't, since 
it's a euphamism I only use cause I made it up. It means getting down and 
dirty.). I always thought he was like the Jem to her Scout. That's shattered 
my whole world now. But, as I have decided to use my Etcha-Sketch for 
sinister quote of the day, it has become the one about Isobel and her 
headscarves and her hair suffering a similar fate to my tent the time I went 
camping with the pyros.

I must go now, I've made this far too long and boring already.

Hugs,
Jen

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From manicsus at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 21:56:00 2001
From: manicsus at xxx.com (Lee Vowell)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:56:00 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Re: Falling on 17th
Message-ID: <F10RMWuLn5U9T3TGJ2T000000bc@hotmail.com>





>    P F, I thought your post was brilliant. Extremely well-written. Very 
>well
>observed.
>
>    I should say that I'm not sure why we Americans think we drink more 
>coffee
>than other nationalities. What proof do we have? I'm not sure. I certainly
>don't drink coffee. I hate it, actually. I very much prefer tea, and that
>just backs your hypothesis. But I think as a rule, Southern Americans 
>prefer
>tea to coffee, but that only suggest the earlier argument of Americans
>drinking more coffee than others. Do I know that Southern Americans drink
>more tea than other Americans? No.
>    The fact is, Americans do not even grow their own coffee beans. So to 
>say
>that we drink more coffee than Colombians may be erroneous. Heck, at least
>South Americans have history on their side of any argument about coffee. 
>The
>Incas used to chew cocoa leaves for stamina whilst running the high 
>mountains
>of the Andes.
>    Oh geez...Sorry. A whole post about coffee. And I do not even like the
>stuff...
>
>    Lee

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From Photojenni27 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 16 23:25:48 2001
From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:25:48 EST
Subject: Sinister: Colour my life with the chaos of trouble....
Message-ID: <3b.f29baa0.2796327c@aol.com>

Hello....
Well, after being let out of the nursery, I'm finally finding my feet 
tentatively on the hard ground of Sinister and peeping around the corner to 
take a wee look at the very pretty landscape I see around me.
If you haven't already guessed yet, this is my first post :-) I've come out 
of my lurking hidey corner and after lounging in #sinister for a while to be 
told by people "We haven't seen you before! Why aren't you posting! We're 
sure you're very nice and we'll read them, we promise!" So, because you all 
seem very nice (I'm particularly taken by the poetry parrot and wonder if 
I'll be seeing his/her colourful form flying over the grey skies of 
Manchester soon...) I'll take a bow and introduce myself;
I'm 18 and short (but I do have a liking for tall men, even if I have to 
stand on my wee tippy-toes to kiss them) and know the secrets of how to take 
off bras with your teeth as well as one handed. I'm also a girly who adores 
Belle and Sebastian (I even have a "We Rule The School" ringtone on my mobile 
phone) but happens to love "If you're feeling Sinister" more than Tigermilk 
because it reminds me of when I lived in Glasgow and tripped around the art 
school and travelling under clear grey yet strangely sunny skies although it 
makes me feel wonderful in a strange sad way. I do absolutely adore Tigermilk 
too. I'm still a wee bit uncertain about "Fold your hands child..." but it's 
Belle and Sebastian, therefore I love them with the whole of my duffle-coated 
heart and will even go through having my earphones ripped from my ears from 
evil scallies whilst I'm on the bus listening to them, who attempt to eat my 
Curlywhirly and steal my fags to protect them....
I go to college, I do my A-Levels in History, Politics and English Lit and 
I've just done my mocks, but I was feeling really icky inside during them so 
I don't think I've done too well...
I did like the sound of JenOwls pinic under the covers with her Rainbow Brite 
dolls...I used to have a Rainbow Brite duvet cover when I was wee and when it 
started to fall apart I made a pillow out of it to still make me smile. When 
I was a little girl, I used to hide under the covers and pretend that my bed 
was a shimmering Crystal Palace where I was a Princess and always warm and 
cozy and I had tiny servants to sing me to sleep and play with me and have 
tea parties.
Oh dear, I do sound like a highly precocious child now...I just hope I'm not 
on my own with this one :-)

Anyway, this is far too long and rambling and so I'll do a Snagglepuss and 
just bow and say "Exit, Stage Left" and scarper....

Love and Fizzy Cola Bottles
Cay
xXx

P.S. Just a wee thank you to Mr. Carsmille Steve who sent me nice little 
messages when I was on #sinister once to tell me I was lagged. I never saw 
you again to say Thanks!


Try it, you might like it. Then again, you might smudge your lipstick.....
Pulp-Sisters
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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Wed Jan 17 03:13:51 2001
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:13:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: it takes two, and one of them is always you
In-Reply-To: <F144MwVN7miR9Odutox0000ae24@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10101162037560.27912-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>


> In chickfactor#10 "Stephin" 'Merritt', who is a journalist for the 
> Independent on Sunday, flatly declared - I won't say '*roundly* declared' - 
> that he didn't have a kitchen. 

Yet it's possible.  I'll be impressed if he says he doesn't have a fridge.
You know Stuart makes defrosting a fridge sound a lot harder than it is.
The one that came with this apartment must be at least from the 70's -
it's brown - and all you have to do is set the knob to 'def'.  Of course,
water leaked from this tray all over the place, but that was coincidental.  

That's quite precise to say it couldn't be 'roundly'.  I don't think he
could say anything roundly.  Something too jovial, simple, and goodnatured
about it.  But tartness, sourness is fine sometimes.

Sorry for starting out so dull, and it's not going to get any better, but
sinister does wonders when you're feeling down.  (I'm trying not to
spread.)  Archel must write with arched brows, and Laura Llew's poem is
just like her.  I imagine that at 53, she'll have young men dedicating
"Portrait d'une Femme" to her. Instead of being a translator, Peter Miller
could have shown Cameron Crowe a thing or two.  And why does Christiaan!!!
seem so slippery?  

So Stuart was 27 years old when it happened for him.  Now I'm two years
overdue.  I've started dating my life from the ages mentioned in songs.
A good thing is that the ages get higher as the singers get older.  27 at
23 seemed far off, but now I'll look forward to looking 58 at 58.  

You know it's strange.  Why is he so popular without trying, only being
himself?  Hey, you know that picture from Select last summer when Stuart
had his hair cut short and his skin was freckled, with such texture that
you, I ached to touch it?  Why should it be that way sometimes?

The best thing about him is that he seems to do things for their own sake:
he has his own rhythm and sometimes you get the sense he's really flying.

Affectionately yours,
Youn


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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Wed Jan 17 05:23:21 2001
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:23:21 +1300
Subject: Sinister: a one line joke virus warning foubling as a test message
Message-ID: <000401c0804d$b61f0fe0$336137d2@computer>

hmm. Virus warning. I have a friend who forwards them constantly, and it
really bugs me. I am getting fed up with spam (especially from some guy
called Lowfly or Art Vortex who, unsolicitated, sends me big graphic
attachments. Annoying .....

Anyway, to matters at hand.

ie,
eg, or .....
for example

***BELLE AND SEBASTIAN***
I am kinda annoyed with the complete lack of Belle & Sebastian in my life. I
know we (as a list) have been over and over the whole thing about no one in
the band wanting it to be *all* they do, and I know that the band owes me
nothing, but still .....

It's not like there wouldn't been any new material. There are *loads* of
brilliant songs which haven't been released. Lord Antony, Rhoda, The
Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, plus the myriad of songs which were
(supposedly) recorded during the "Peasant" sessions and have never seen the
light of day.

So really, I don't think a new album would be too difficult to hastily
compile.

Also,

the lack of gigs. Now personally I don't really care too much, because ...
hey, fat chance they'd ever come to New Zealand, but it does kinda suck. If
you're gonna tour constantly (like Bob Dylan) you can forgive an artist for
not recording much, because they're always on the road. Silimarly, if you
want to be The Beatles, and just *stop* playing live, for whatever reason,
and just make music, then .... well, more music. Cool. Unfortunately, B&S
are doing neither, and may well turn out to be the Def Lepard of the 00's

My sneaking suspicion is that the band has, for all intents and purposes,
broken up.I think Stuart D leaving was a bit of a blow for the band, but
they soldiered on and released the album anyway, and theb did precisely *no*
promotion for it, aside from one press conference, an phone conversation
with Steve Wells and a mimed appearance on TOTP. Then nothing.

My friends, I really believe, though it gieves me to say it, that this may
well be the end of the line. Most of the band members seem to be off doing
the solo thing (apart from Stuart, who, lets face it, is really the only
person we're desperate for solo things from ...) and no news has leaked from
the camp in more than six months.

And what the hell's going on with Jeepster? The site never gets updated, the
shop didn't even sell the Christmas album, and there have been no
newsletters in months.

RIP?

oh God, I hope not.


feeling bleak .....

Lawrence

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 17 13:35:56 2001
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:35:56 +0000
Subject: Sinister: A grown man of 25 - damn!
Message-ID: <802569D7.004B5258.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>




Lawrence Mikkelsen wrote from his lonely pit of Kiwi gloom:

> It's not like there wouldn't been any new material. There are *loads* of
> brilliant songs which haven't been released. Lord Antony, Rhoda, The
> Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, plus the myriad of songs which were
> (supposedly) recorded during the "Peasant" sessions and have never seen the
> light of day.
>
> So really, I don't think a new album would be too difficult to hastily
> compile.

Somehow the idea of Belle & Sebastian 'hastily compiling' an album of stuff left
in the can doesn't seem terribly likely.  If you want this to happen, I suggest
you engineer some kind of horrible accident for them all so that Cheapster can
do a Jeff Buckley on them.  Perhaps Isobel's headscarf could get caught in the
wheels of her Fiat Punto and Stuart could drown in a pool of his own semen.
Does anyone else have any death fantasy scenarios they'd like to share?

Youn sighed:

> So Stuart was 27 years old when it happened for him.  Now I'm two years
> overdue.

What happened for him?  Things are happening for me all the time.  If you mean
hitting it big with a band then I guess they're aren't, though.   But let's not
go down that road.  We're all failures unless we start looking at novelists'
start dates rather than those of p(P)op s(S)tars.  If you aren't religious, then
there are only five important things in life:

1) absence of illness (mental and physical)
2) well-being of family, friends and (if you're really nice) the world at large
3) being sexually attractive
4) intellectual or artistic achievement, which, if appreciated by a wide
audience may take the place of:
5) procreation

As far as I see it, career success is only a means to achieving points (2) and,
importantly (3).

Sorry, I don't know where that bout of banal delineation came from.

Your vintage fridge sounds much better than all the crappy ones that I've had in
my life, Youn.  Defrosting them via the means of turning off the power takes
hours and then all the stuff in the freezer compartment goes soggy and I feel
obliged to throw out the hash brown that I'd discovered encased in ice.   So I
am forced to device ways of speeding up the process.   A bowl of hot water helps
things a little, but I can't help resorting to more direct measures.  A carving
knife is the perenially-tempting implement, but a few years ago I pierced the
coolant tube and so now I exercise caution in this regard.   For a while I used
a hair dryer, but then it blew up and never got round to replacing it.  Then
inspiration struck.  I was pondering the appeal of the hot knife, but tired of
the constant reheating requirements and mindful of the aforementioned puncturing
debacle I suddenly thought 'Iron!'.  So now I use that and it works a treat.
You have to be a bit careful not to mistake fridge walls for ice, and it's not
possible to reach all corners if your freezer compartment is small.  It would be
better with a mini travel-iron.

I imagine American fridges are much better than ours.  When I was in New York I
was really impressed by the huge one in my sister's cousin's apartment and its
ice dispensing mechanism.  Apparently they're quite commonplace over there.  I
don't think this is another tea/coffee cultural myth.


Photojenni27 at aol.com posted and I shook my head at the thought that there are so
many Photojennys at aol.com that 26 people have already resorted to an
alternative spelling.


God, being a Belle & Sebastian fan is boring these days.   Perhaps they'll
release another record, perhaps they won't.  But if they do, you can guarantee
that half of us will say something along the lines of 'well it might not be my
favourite album of theirs, but it's still better than anything else around'.
This is a sure sign that we've become REM fans.  Or is it?  Thoughts on the
importance of self-awareness and sensitivity to the march of progress in pop
music are welcome.

N. xx


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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 17 15:06:54 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:06:54 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Message from our South American correspondent...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277543E@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

<anal retentive>

Lee said:

>The Incas used to chew cocoa leaves for stamina whilst running the high 
>mountains of the Andes.

Erm, well, close. They use coca leaves, the stuff cocaine is made out of.
They're still used today - they're great for combatting altitude sickness
when you're walking the Inca Trail. And they make coca tea out of them,
which is quite nice, actually.

</anal retentive>


If there were any B&S gigs this year, who would play the bass? Neil
Robertson? A 'guest' from another band?

OK, Controversial statement: I reckon B&S will only start doing more (any?)
gigs if Isobel leaves. After all, she is always the one who gets really
nervous beforehand and makes herself ill (didn't she puke up because she was
so nervous once? Or am I imagining things?). And when Stuart M smashed his
guitar at the Dublin gig, it was just after Bel had left the stage 2 songs
before the end for unexplained reasons. And they haven't done a gig since.
Of course, whether the band would even continue if she left is a different
matter entirely...

So she's finally admitted to getting up close and personal with Stuart M
then? Does that mean they're going to give up pretending that the sleeve
notes to Tigermilk are entirely fictional? And tell us which of their songs
are actually about their relationship? (leading candidates include Is It
Wicked Not To Care, Simple Thigs, and of course the song Belle and
Sebastian... More welcome...).

Well, that was all very deep, full of content, and completely
out-of-character for me, I think I should stick to talking about bras and
bars...


Big Stu


PS I do like the idea of using an iron to defrost the fridge. Coming soon,
using a vaccum cleaner to get things down from the top shelf, and how to use
a trouserpress to make a bacon butty.
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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Wed Jan 17 15:47:53 2001
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:47:53 +0000
Subject: Sinister: smut smut smut, that's all it ever is with you lot
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Hey chaps and chapesses I do hope that none of you are currently under the dark
cloud that is representing the Lurgy that seems to be going around at the
mooment.  Loads of people have had it and it?s not nice, it makes people miss
gigs and club nights :-(

I?ve been doing stuff and it?s been quite fun too, the winter sprinter gigs were
cool, apart from one thing, they were held in a tiny wee wendy house of a venue,
on the first one  we didn?t even get in, it was so crowded, well, I did but I
managed about 4 baby steps into the crowd before I reached an impasse so I went
and had a beer in the pub up the road instead (apologies now if anyone?s posted
about this already but I?ve tried searching and it didn?t seem so) with many
various sini-types.

The next night was better, Tompaulin played their Belle and the velvet
underground  (tm NME) type thing but did it nicely and I enjoyed it, great
heckling though from drunken punters who?ll remain nameless (eh Geoff?)  They
didn?t let as many people in either so it was less horribly crowded.  It were
much the same for the next night too when Airport girl played and were fun,
whilst new Alan McGee signings January played and were shite, as Ms Juicy
remarked: it?s always a shame when you can tell that a band?s gonna be bad just
by their hair cuts.  As a note you can also tell this when one of their dad?s is
sat at the back of the stage looking grumpy behind a pedal steel.

The next two days are a blur of ill girlfriend and playstation playing

Until.......strange fruit.  Once again the curse of the tiny venue hit, and I
didn?t get in until about half past eleven but I still managed to get drunk and
dance stupidly, just like always.

5 hours sleep later and I?m setting off for Biarritz, Dahling ;-)

What a pretty place, all faded 19th century glamour and white walls with
Terracotta roofs.  And even better, loads of surf shops!! Unfortunately it also
had lots of dog poo and very inconvenient opening hours but I didn?t let that
detract from me and my long distance lover?s mini-holiday in the winter sun, god
bless you Ryanair.  Unfortunately, the lovely Katie is still over there (having
moved on to the tapas wonderland of San Sebastian) while I?m back here suffering
work badly, anyone know of any jobs going for lazy gets who?d rather read books
than do spreadsheets and update databases??

Hmmmm bra undoing, a favourite hobby of mine, I?m an ambidextrous uni-hander,
but hey, I?m just blowing my own trumpet, a not inconsiderable task let me tells
ya
(is that enough smut content? It?s seeming more and more compulsory)

That?s me done, stick a fork in me

Love to you all you lovely people

Chrisx

PS everyone wave and say hi to my Sister, Filly who?s stalking us all


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From room_30 at xxx.com  Wed Jan 17 19:27:54 2001
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:27:54 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Re: sheet music
Message-ID: <F272y54DgI6bXmdMJOt00001178@hotmail.com>

another day another batch of mails
i wonder how many would build up if i went on holiday with no computer 
access

a big thanks to you all who helprd me in my quest for sheet music,

Craig said:-
	Last I heard (a good 6 months ago) the band were
	working on a book of sheet music but I'm not sure
	if it got finished or not

i looked but couldn't find any info on this, if anybody else as heard 
anythng?

JenOwl wrote:-
	The only sheet music you can buy for B&S at all in the whole         world 
is FYHCYWLAP. Nothing else has been released yet, though         they keep 
promising they will.

	But if you want that, I think you can get if from amazon or         get it 
on order.

thanks jen, i couldn't find it on amazon or any other web shop sites and i'm 
not too familiar with FISHYCLAP (i know, i know, call myself a B&S fan ^-^ ) 
so but thanks anyway

and to paul from HongKong, my course is music technology, we mainly learn 
how to use a recording studio, how to record live, computer sequencing, 
music theory, composition and performance.  i used to be a design student 
aswell but my heart lies more with music than with a pencil.

with my search for B&S sheet music repeatedly sending me down dead ends i've 
decided to plump for 'star' by primal scream which i know i can get the 
sheet music for and i think it might sound nice arranded for a string 
quartet!, whad'you think?

my idea of time has skewed somewhat, i keep thinking it's thursday today but 
that's just because i didn't sleep on tuesday night.  i was sleepy all 
yesterday but tried successfully to stay awake untill i lay on my bed to 
watch a film at about 9 and then i woke up at 5 this morning, freezing and 
with the telly blaring.
insomnia dosn't happen too often, the last time it happened was the night 
before i went to the cinema to see deep blue and fell asleep with my head on 
my hand and my arm bent in a perculiar fashion and when i woke up at the end 
and unfurled my arm i could feel the blood flowing down the veins of my arm 
and into my fingers but i couldn't feel my arm itself.  it was the strangest 
thing i have ever felt and not a little scary.  i've only ever fallen asleep 
at the cinema 2wice, this and during star trek ins'erection, but that's just 
coz star trek's shite (sorry to any trekkies on the list ^-^ )
anyway i'm rambling way from my point


oh, someone said who are B&S gonna use as a bassist if they ever tour 
again?,
well i'm up for it, all they gotta do is ask

CU all for the now
pez*


ps: i have cut my lip on the inside and i don't know how and it hurts like 
HELL when i eat anything salty so *why* have i just opened a bag of crisps? 
and i don't even like crisps.

pps: i've just bought a new guitar and have nobody to show it to so i'll 
send u all a psychic mental picture... got it?... nice and orange, eh?
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From ryanbthat at xxx.com  Wed Jan 17 20:58:13 2001
From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:58:13 -0800
Subject: Sinister: putting the SIN back in SINISTER
Message-ID: <LAW2-F122eq5mZoCIsQ00000f9f@hotmail.com>

naughty, naughty.

shocking really.  when I joined up with this list (yes, this is my first 
post, thank you very much) I never expected to find such a bunch of 
gutter-dwelling, filthy-minded, potty mouthed gossip mongers. not that 
that's a bad thing mind you...

it's just that B&S are so cute and sensitive and precious and innocent (you 
can sometimes hear the blushing coming through the speakers when a dirty 
word or suggestive reference is spoken).  'twee' is the word I think many of 
you like to use. i often tell people that B&S are 'the wussiest band I will 
ever love' and i feel quite safe in saying that because i know that i do 
love them and i think the likelihood of me finding anything wussier is 
slight.

Note: i hope that hasn't offended anyone and i'll be quite happy to define 
my terms to anyone interested.

I remember one critic saying something akin to "I would probably like Belle 
and Sebastian if I still lived at home and had never learned to masturbate." 
ouch. well you'd certainly have more time for music appreciation...but it's 
this rather sexless image i had in my head that has been shattered by your 
titillating speculations about lyrical subtext and just what is under that 
scarf. that and honey's promise of trouser fumblings.

we appear to be only a few steps away from people posting pieces of 
pornographic fiction about the band members like those Star Trek and X-Files 
fans (why IS that phenomenon so common in sci-fi?). I hope i haven't given 
anyone any ideas, or maybe i hope i have...

there, first post jitters out of the way. whew!

ryan


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From shiplore at xxx.com  Wed Jan 17 21:16:46 2001
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:16:46 -0500
Subject: Sinister: putting the SIN back in SINISTER
Message-ID: <F239TANZwwPcMFlF8HG00000273@hotmail.com>


>we appear to be only a few steps away from people posting pieces of
>pornographic fiction about the band members like those Star Trek and 
>X-Files
>fans (why IS that phenomenon so common in sci-fi?). I hope i haven't given
>anyone any ideas, or maybe i hope i have...
>
Well I'd say it's cause most of the people into sci-fi (with the exception 
of Brandon Braga) aren't really getting any. I mean think about it...it's an 
escape from mundane reality. I loved scifi. when i was 14 and not gettin' 
any :) and now it still has a fond place in my heart much like Poison and 
Guns 'n' Roses but it's MUCH more fun to go hit on real girls than it is to 
imagine muldar and scully getting it on....heck it's even more fun to 
imagine lisa and...nevermind...:)
Just trying to shock ms. morrison out of her silence.
the list is naughty and needs it's list dom.

I read that review about "I'd really like B&S if i'd never learned to 
masterbate" it was really quite funny.

I'm leaving for texas tomrrow for the weekend.
if you don't hear from me ever again. I was murdered by escaped convicts or 
shot cause I wasn't wearing a cowboy hat or executed for jaywalking.

have a nice daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
jb
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From Gpallis at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 17 22:46:20 2001
From: Gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:46:20 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The gnarl under my thigh is a kind of irregular rhumboid shape, further complicated by a slight ridge heading left to right, although it is possible that this last observation is not unconnected to the back pocket of the jeans I am wearing.
Message-ID: <00c501c080d7$503ef0c0$e4cf01d5@oemcomputer>

This is a good week.

On Sunday the adverbs contest ended. All you had to do was write me a
one-line email, and way over 1000 people on the list didn't bother. Three
people did. The winner was "vaingloriously", a staggeringly top word.

On Monday I stayed up working really late, 'cos there's this Sixth form
essay competion at my school, and it's compulsory to anyone doing English
A-Level, which I am, and I wanted to write a good one because the top prize
is fifty quid, and, well, I really, really need fifty quid. It's about a
possibly autistic maths genius failing
a job interview in a florist by thinking obsessively about pop music, and in
particular the mighty Strawberry Switchblade. Everyone else's are all
massive long poems about staying in their rooms listening to the Manics or
recycled movie plots, so I'm in with a chance, I'm thinking. And then my
English teacher, who's just about the coolest person on earth, 'cos she's
young and hip and set No Logo as our set coursework book and used to write
for NME (!), comes into our lesson and asks "Why Strawberry Switchblade?".
And I say "Because they rock". And she tells me how my essay provoked a
crazed evening of singing along to 'Since Yesterday' and 'Trees and
Flowers'. Which was completely unexpected.

"Well you know how it is, it's boy meets girl and pretty soon it all goes
wrong...".

And then Sarah Clarke said: "Was it to hide Stuarts semen after he wanked in
her hair?", and Peter Miller is right, this was unarguably the gratest line
ever.

And then I started thinking about noses. 'Cos I suddenly realised mine is
too big, and I was panicked. And then I looked at all my friends, and all
their noses are too big too. And so is Brad Pitt's, and Britany Spears', and
ewwww! And then I started staring at people on the street, trying
desperately to find someone with an acceptable nose, and I couldn't. I think
only a few people on earth might have noses that are just about acceptable.
It is impossible to have a nose that is too small. And then I talked to the
boy who I hated until the girl who I fancied dumped him, and he was nice.
And then I talked to her, and she wasn't. And her nose is too big. So now I
don't fancy anyone, really. It's rather worrying, and happens far too often.

And then someone offlist sent me a tape of Bax rarities, and to describe it
as absolutely stonkingly brilliant would be nowhere near praise enough. They
are good.

> [Rinaldo stuff]
Interestingly, I liked Belle and Sebastian a lot more when I still lived at
home and had never learned to masturbate. I still like them now, though. I
am eagerly awaiting the first pornographic B&S story now, it could start
something like "Belle and Sebastian are not snogging. They are, however,
screwing like rabbits." or "Sebastian thinks Belle kicks with the other
foot. Sebastian is wrong - she kicks with both.". Oh, I don't know, there
are people here a lot filthier than me.

Wait a minute, it's the chorus of 'Tina Dreams' and I must jump around like
an idiot and point and dance and things.

Right, back now. I wish I didn't do Further Maths A-Level, or that I still
did but actually liked Maths. I printed out Erica's 'Trash Girls #1' and
stuck it on my wall...  My favourite Trash Girlz moment is:
Trash Girl #1: (Looks at me)
Me: (Looks at Trash Girl #1)
Trash Girl #1: (Dances at me)
Me: (Dances at Trash Girl #1)
Trash Girl #1: (Leans over and snogs Trash Girl #2)

Maybe you had to be there. Do people ever use the word "stomper" except in
the context of "rollicking Northern Soul stomper"? And why are my posts so
tediously long?

I integrate partial fractions now.
Greg

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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 07:04:29 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:04:29 -0800
Subject: Sinister: kiss kiss bang bang
Message-ID: <001401c0811d$096dcf40$5c4501d5@aqlzosqt>

THE FIRST BIT
i don't write with arched anything these days, youn.  far too much effort.
tonight was a success for me because it included a) 2 screaming orgasms...
YES, the cocktails and b) killing lots of soviets in goldeneye on my newly
purchased but obviously ancient N64.  ah, simple pleasures.

POETRY
despite the fact that his name is nearly nick hornby, and thus prone to
making me gag, choke, swear and otherwise be ungracious, nick horne mentined
two great 'r' words, ie rilke and roethke, and is therefore a Good Thing. i
just fell in love with rilke recently. and i know the poetry parrot hasn't
perched on my bits as yet, but in any case it seems to have bred, or at
least shed spores in some kind of weird metaphorical creature way, cos pomes
abound on sinister at the moment. and i'm going to add to the litter:

Time and again, however well we know the landscape of love,
and the little church-yard with lamenting names,
and the frightfully silent ravine wherein all the others
end: time and again we go out two together,
under the old trees, lie down again and again
between the flowers, face to face with the sky.

and that, ladies and gentlemen, is poetry.  worth learning german for,
almost.

ETCHASEX
etch a sketch was/is grate.  my best buddy and i both had one and he would
design very accurate, straight lined cars etc, while i would write on them
in wobbly writing not unlike my actual handwriting, which was usually wobbly
due to writing with my left hand, which i had to do a lot as i broke my
right arm 3 times between the ages of 8 and 12.  i was like samuel l jackson
in Unbreakable, only with better hair and less master criminal tendencies.
anyway, there was a point about gender somewhere in there, but fortunately
it got lost.

HUFFNER
you would think that darren hayman would now be able to afford to buy
jumpers without holes in them.  indie london may be his milieu, and i'm sure
holey jumpers are still trendy there (hmm) but even so he must be rather
cold in such attire at this time of year.  maybe they are hand-knitted by
someone as inept as me though.

BELLE AND SEBASTIAN (only joking, of course)
in the absence of real b&s a-c-t-i-o-n, displacement activities have taken
over i suppose. ring tones... screensavers... badges... i have a small
notebook for work use which has on its spine 'pocketbook angel', which is
really stupid but i do take a little secret pleasure in the fact that no-one
but me knows what the fuck it means.  hee hee.

THE ICEMAN COMETH
we have just been delivered of a monolithic new fridge/freezer (it may
incorporate a small bedroom for an eskimo too, in fact). it blocks out the
light, but you know what - it's okay, cos there's all the more room for our
magnetic poetry. yay!  although you can always tell when we've had a party
because some drunken male has composed a pornographic epic.  lovely.

oh, that was all.

eat: smarties
drink: baileys
write for: buzzwords.

love in a cold climate, archel xxx

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From honey at xxx.org  Thu Jan 18 00:33:58 2001
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:33:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: a one line joke virus warning foubling as a test
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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101172101510.29905-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Little treasures,

A couple of follow-ups to things in the last day.  Amongst the
*sparkling* posts (may I say) of the last 24 hours I found:

Lawrence Mikkelsen said:
> I am getting fed up with spam (especially from some guy
> called Lowfly or Art Vortex who, unsolicitated, sends me big graphic
> attachments. Annoying .....

I thought I was the only one getting these.  Various addresses from
the ip.pt domain have been trying to send YOU all lots of advertising
mails for "LowFly records" and "ArtVortex" since September, and
taking no notice of my pleas for them to stop.  You haven't been
seeing them because I blocked them with the list software, but many
contained very big attachments (pictures and the like, not nudey,
unfortunately) which would be a real pain for slow modem users.  They
seem to originate from a particular user on the list who today is no
longer a listee and only ever tried to send an advert anyway.

If you've received them they'll be from addresses like: arnaldopedro at ip.pt,
lowfly at ip.pt, artvortex at ip.pt, agenda_lowfly at ip.pt.

I'm pretty horrified to hear that he, or they, have been sending this
junk individually to list members too.  If you've been getting them
too, please don't send me a mail expecting a response because I'm
waterlogged with email, but send me a blank email with "junk email from
ip.pt" in the Subject so I know and can report this.  I get really
*really* angry at this sort of abuse of the goodwill of all you post
and *don't* try and sell the rest of us things, apart from your bodies
of course.  Particularly as Miss Print is so adamantly anti-adverts and
all such commercial tartiness.  One of these days I'm going to put up a
banner ad or popup window on the Sinister site to shock you all.  Just
for a day :)

If anyone wants to see my grumpy mail to the ISP who host these
cowboys, just to prove I CARE!, go to:

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/ip.pt.txt

It's not very interesting reading though.  I received an auto-response
saying they take this kind of thing seriously and will act, so we'll
see.

Needless to say, never *ever* buy anything from LowFly records.

Lawrence also said:
> My sneaking suspicion is that the band has, for all intents and purposes,
> broken up.

As a few people have said recently, they've been in the recording
studio!  And are at the moment I think.  Word has it they're recording
two singles, but even undressing and running naked round Neil Mr
Manager Sir from Banchory in the chatroom wouldn't extract the names of
said songs.  I can however, exclusively reveal, that one of the new
songs is a sort of "prog-rock version of 'Lipstick, Powder and Paint'"
and none contain "1991-style indie pseudo-dub bass".  Such are the
vaguaries of chat-room conversation.  Oh, and Mick is playing bass, at
least in the studio.  Apparently if you're a fan of Petula Clark, you
won't be disappointed.  Peter?

As to all the "they're so lazy" talk, I can't help wondering if anyone
would riot if a Jean-Paul Sartre decided to spend 2001 on a beach.
Because he wanted to.

Honey x


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From therach at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 03:37:46 2001
From: therach at xxx.com (Rachel)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:37:46 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Heaven or Las Vegas? Anyone live there?
Message-ID: <3A66650A.9F60BE93@home.com>

Well List ...
I hope you all don't mind a pretty much B & S content free post from a
fairly terminal lurker. If you do, I apologize in advance for my abuse.
I promise I will repost in a few days with something full of sparkling
wit and tons  of content ( as soon as I think of something) Any ways I
was writing to see if there was anyone on the list that lived in the
general vicinity of Las Vegas (nevada). My parents have graciously
arranged to take my sister and I with them on a trip to celebrate their
20th wedding anniversary. While I am thrilled at the prospect of a free
vacation anywhere I am at a loss as to what I am going to do while I am
there. I mean I know there is probably lts of touristy casino stuff but
while I am old enough to participate in all that it isn't really my
thing. So I just thought if anyone who lived there or knew a lot about
the place had any suggestions on other stuff to do I would really
appreciate it. I will be there just from February 4th till the 9th for
sure but I have work off until the 21st and might be going to Sacramento
and San Jose afterwards to visit some family and old friends so ...Any
ways if anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them.
Rachel T.

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From mayfly at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 03:12:15 2001
From: mayfly at xxx.com (Rachel)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:12:15 -0700
Subject: Sinister: live through this
Message-ID: <11CB71429ECE4D115AF40005B88A8E50@mayfly.z.com>

well, this will be my 2nd post, and will probably be nice and dark 
and gloomy as a contrast to my 1st which was sent in a spirit of 
hyperactive cheer on christmas day.

i dislike january.  it's freezing, full of back-to-school woes, empty 
of money, and so far has brought me nothing but a nasty cold which i 
used as an excuse to sleep through french class today.  So it's been 
a disjointed day: up at 8:30 for theatre history, which i dozed 
through, met my friend for lunch at 11:30, then back home where i 
slept in turns and in the turns where i didn't sleep i muddled my way 
through most of "The Ecstasy of Rita Joe" which is the dullest play 
ever written and only on our curriculum in the interests of political 
correctness as it deals with residential schools.  Personally i think 
if we are trying to deal with squeamish (in certain parts) concepts, 
there are plenty of better plays, like "Unidentified Human Remains 
and the True Nature of Love" which i happen to think everyone should 
read, it is a grate play.

But enough of my whining.  I bought several new and unaffordable cds 
the other day:  Modest Mouse - 'The Moon and Antarctica', Bettie 
Serveert - 'lamprey' (which turned out to be a promo-only copy which 
gave me a little glow to feel i had got something rare and unique, 
also Salako - 'Musicality' (that one was for xmas) and The Acid House 
Soundtrack, a movie that looks wonderful but i still haven't seen as 
i have no vcr and my friends who do weren't particularly impressed 
with my movie choices last time. And I'm back to whining.  Really.  
Let's see if i can get through the rest of this post without doing it 
again.

Well!!  I must say, i was rather shocked to find out about isobel and 
stuart.  JenOWL's "Jem to her Scout" analogy is so perfect.  And i 
was sooo comfortable with the to kill a mockingbirdish state he 
seemed to be in.  Ah well.  Things are never as they seem....  

for instance i always seem to get taken as the "cute and innocent" 
type.  I'm not sure why.  I wish i were dark and skinny and looked 
good with piercings... but not in this life.  So i will just take 
comfort in the great amount of fun to be had in disabusing people of 
their notion of me as sweet and quiet and naive... well, the quiet 
part may be true... but only when i'm sober, which has been much too 
often this month.

Oh god.  more complaints.  This post will end here.  And remember, i 
DID warn at the start that it would likely be dark and gloomy. I 
forgot to mention interminably long, didn't i? It's the fault of the 
weather.

"Talking is just masturbating without the mess."
                                        -Our Lady Peace

and how true that is.  Lots of vague well wishes and belgian 
chocolates, Rachel

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From chrislampinen at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 05:39:05 2001
From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (Christiaan!! !!)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:39:05 -0500
Subject: Sinister: GAMES INSIDE!!
Message-ID: <F178QVjriLdElsBt8sB00001cda@hotmail.com>

hello!

A while back miss lark said something about some posts not being too good. I 
never noticed, but maybe it is so!! "Why would they not be too good?" I 
wondered. Maybe because they are boring? I did not think that my posts are 
boring, but it could be so!! I have decided that I will remedy Christiaan 
post boredom with ***!

OK! Look, it's fill in the blanks!! Can you guess what word *** is?

OK! Hint one!!    F**
OK! Hint two!!    FU*
OK! Hint three!!  FUN
OK! Have you solved it? It is fun, yes!! Good job, listee!!

Now, as an introduction to my post, I have devised a little word search!! 
All of the words will be used at least once in this post.

T G W M A R I E C B T P
I V O O U A C G W G U Q
T C A N I D E E H E R E
F E S E L I A H V G T E
E I F Y O P L O R E L M
V U C E V L K N S A E A
S Y W F E K V E A M E J
X S A U C E B Y P L U I
O Y P C Z N L P E N S C
O O P K A V I S I T V E
Y W L E P M I F B K W P
E D E B A Z S E N E Y E

Words: Apple, Honey, Love, Majic, Marie, Money, Rad, Sauce, Turtle, Visit, 
Yo

OK I guess I should probably use all those words in my post now. Maybe I 
should have made the post first and taken the words from it, but probably 
not. Your next task is to find the words in the post, I guess.

Belle & Sebastian is recording stuff, huh? That's pretty RAD (HINT HINT)! I 
would like to see a Beyond the Sunrise (that's what it's called, right?) 
remix EP. It could have an eclectic mix of remixers, like Sir Mix-a-Lot, 
Carl Craig (Detroit techno, yeah!), DJ Assault (Ghetto-tech biatch! Joseph! 
wicka wicka heavy load, uh uh uh! deeeeeep wicka wicka uh load uh wicka! 
load uh wicka! load uh wicka! I will keep you warm, yeah! I will keep you 
warm, uh huh, uh huh! [Note throbbing beat like- boom boom boom boom]), and 
that guy from Tortoise. No, haha, Tortoise sucks. I like turtles, but 
Tortoise, no. Don't go to ATP, by the way. I mean, do you really want to 
support tortoise? Oh, you do? I heard a rumor about Tortoise fans, something 
about should keel over, have horrible taste in music, blah blah, but just a 
rumor.

Um, the word finding game is over. I can't see the word list anymore and I 
don't really care to scroll up or write it down.

Guess what? I get a listee visit soon! Oh, I'd say who it is, but you'd all 
be jealous because, well, she's pretty neat. Hopefully there will be more 
glittery pants/steaming manhole stories in the near future. Keep your eyes 
peeled!!

Guess what I did today!! I peed in a cup while another man watched!! He 
actually was getting paid to look at my penis and make sure pee was coming 
out of it!! Pretty neat, huh?

OK my heart is getting fluttery with other matters, so I guess I will just 
let 1,400 people see this!

Bye!
Love,
Christiaan

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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 06:29:32 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:29:32 EST
Subject: Sinister: Dot is a hell cat, a T-I-G-E-R!
Message-ID: <fc.11aaaca.2797e74c@aol.com>

"Why would they not be too good?"- Mr. Christiian, who are you quoting? 
just curious.

When I say some peoples posts are not good...I am primarily referring to my 
own.
though the narcissist in me begs for some consistency in her name. For 
instance, if I want to as Those First Impressions poster said:
"spend his spare time scanning internet diaries for
references to himself."- calling me anything other than Isabel Lark makes it 
a far more difficult task. And it is all about me, isn't it? (kidding) (sorta)

Anyway, I have received some great advice on the tape shrubbery...and when I 
narrow it down I will email the participants individually as i would sure 
hate to make the non participants jealous or something (kidding) (sorta). But 
for now, I would like to remind you of something...4th grade square dancing. 
yes, you're gonna be paired up...lets just hope you don't get someone with 
sweaty palms when it comes time to dosey doe. 

Incidentally, and I don't know if anyone's noticed, but I am trying to win 
the award for most ranting posts on the list. So far I am in the lead...so no 
funny business people...I have friends that are connected (at the hips.) and 
if anything, just feel sorry for me that I don't have a life, but don't hate 
me (cause I am beautiful.) (kidding) (sorta) 

Oh yeah, we have about 8 confirmed people for Memphis. Is that a low number? 
I guess not too bad considering that 1376 of you are in the UK 
somewhere...and the other 24 or so are in the US somewhere. Perhaps some of 
you could make a trip to the states. I figure that the picnics page needs a 
nice good photo of us in front of Graceland or some random Elvis statue. For 
inspiration see Mystery Train.

Uka Shaka Uka Shaka. I'm hooked on a feeling,  I am high on believing that 
you like receiving post from me. 

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From manicsus at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 16:51:33 2001
From: manicsus at xxx.com (Lee Vowell)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Robbery In Progress
Message-ID: <F133T6bB5Rw1SSfWXWz00000c31@hotmail.com>





>    Last week I was sitting in my car at a red light. Directly to my left I
>saw a man sprinting down the sidewalk. He had just come out of a drug store
>and had something in his hand. A second later I saw a large man, whom I'm
>guessing was the manager of the store, come out the doors and begin chasing
>the running man. He stopped after a few steps and began attempting to wave
>down a police car parked across the road. By this time the light had turned
>green and I had, to my slight disappointment, to begin driving again. A few
>seconds later a police vehicle sped past me on it's way towards, again I'm
>guessing, the drug store and the running man.
>    My reaction was, of course, one of incredible curiosity. I had never
>witnessed an actual robbery in progress, and it was quite absorbing. But
>after a few moments I began to wonder about the moral issues involved in 
>the
>burglary. Is the man who had taken whatever from the drug store guilty
>without reason? What if he had just been trying to steal some jars of baby
>food for his child because he himself had not been able to acquire the 
>funds
>to actually buy the merchandise? Of course, it is wrong to steal, but if 
>one
>has a great enough reason to do so...Hmmm...
>    Another element was that the robber was African-American and the store
>manager was white. The store was in a predominantly African-American
>neighborhood. What effect, if any, would this have on the issue of 
>stealing?
>I find it odd still that even though an area can be heavily populated by
>blacks that the majority of the owners of stores and managers of them are
>white. It's sort of this subliminal racism, maybe.
>
>    Of course, the whole robbery scene was taking place whilst I was 
>sitting
>in my car with "I Fought In A War"  playing on my car stereo. I imagine 
>that
>the robber was fighting his own war, and it seemed like he would have more 
>to
>come.
>
>    Lee

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From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 17:34:15 2001
From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:34:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Hurley's Having Dreams lyrics
Message-ID: <20010118173415.13056.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,
  How a bout some B&S content?  OK then. I'm sitting
here bored in my Journalism class so I transcribed the
lyrics to "Hurley's Having Dreams"  some of it's
wrong, but I think i did a good job over all.  here it
goes...

Hurley's Having Dreams:

Here she comes in the April sun in her dungarees 
And she's up for fun.
Smiling lie she's a crazy girl and she makes a 
Face like she owns the place, and she does.
We indulge ourselves in creating a neck of beauty
And circumstance.   Not to mention her bold intention
To keep the band and she's happy ?????????

Now she's in most  ???, in a dress she's so elegant.
Does a prance that maybe Oh, it's not good for the
baby.
Oh, Hurley's having dreams, little Hurley's having
dreams, and
He kicks and then he screams, and I can't get to
sleep.  Oh Hurley I could weep!

Hurley dreams of the time when he was a horse in
Czechoslovakia.   
Hurley dear you're a human being, have you fun just
now but gonna have to deal.

She looks so fantastic, little sun specks made of
plastic.  How she gets
To love me, her love goes on little Hurley.

Oh, Hurley's having dreams, little Hurley's having
dreams, and
He kicks and then he screams, and I can't get to
sleep.  Oh Hurley I could weep!




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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 18 18:39:29 2001
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:39:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: City girl is not even a gender,cannot be a genre
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0101181811170.6151-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>



Hello all:


For goodness sake!One just turns its back say five minutes and the
daintiness and demure of the good old days of Sinister seems gone
forever.And Mummy seems to have given up on his/her duty of scolding
naughty children off and joined the romp,oh well.

Discovery of the day:Gap lingerie for kids is all naughty children
need.Fantastically twee-but-sexy knickers which won't let you down whether
some urge to lift your uniform pleated skirt in the playground rises and
fancy just some show 
off.I have been checking how large was the XL size before recommending to
Isobel's,however.Perhaps we should all donate 1.5 pennies each and buy her
a pair to lift her spirits about the ruined headscarf,don't we?


I insist:Stuart David's leaving has been the BLANK of the year in this
list and I still wonder why.Even if the situation was that nobody around
here liked him and his quitting was all for good,no claps or cheers were
heard either.Just vanished,deleted from our hard disks,swallowed by some
big hole in the information autoroutes,chemins de fer et tout ca.
If the number of live acts is proportional to the number of Belle and
Sebastian members,as the decrease could indicate,minus Isobel we would
have a tiny fraction of probability in our favour left...So perhaps it's
better to pluck up courage about her swans and angora
sweaters and her fantabulous contributions to albums which took the place
for the e.g. always in our memory, 'Pocketbook Angel',and so many others
we will not mention here but we know which ones they are,there,at home.


And do you want to be my bloody VALENTINE?'Breakfast at Tiffany's' is the
obliged mid-February treat for lonely hearts in the BFI menu.It would make the
perfect date.Get all those big sunglasses and homemade Givenchy copycats
 out for the occasion.And croissants,of course.


On list-based contests: if I were less lazy and more charismatic and less
of a lurker as I have been lately,I would go to some TV programme and
become a POP star in ten days.No,seriously, I would summon you all to
enter an absolutely selfish competition where the best address/phone book
designed with some Belle and Sebastian inspiration behind would win the
enormous privilege of living in my bag and host my friends and family
numbers and adresses,that is.And it would be shown in the most unmissable
venues and cocktails and maybe spotted by some fashion enterpreneur who
would ask me where I got such an amazing piece and the designer would have
made her/his fortune.That is if I finally make it into my dreamt career
path, 'philantropist/billonaire'.

What would you think Stu could say about some helpful donation to the 
Scottish Soc.Party?It would be nice,wouldn't it?Or too much fuss?


Love

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From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 18 19:03:08 2001
From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (Alex Jackson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:03:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: more blooming Roswell!
Message-ID: <001201c08181$63e9b9c0$0200a8c0@mshome.net>

Ok, I'm sure this classifies as list abuse, but I was wondering if anyone
(please!!!!) knows what the song at the Start of Roswell High was this week?
I mean, in the UK. It's the episode where Liz has to have dinner in Tess's
house, and the song I'm dribbling on about is the one playing before the
title credits came up. The official web-site lists some of the songs in each
episode, but not this one, so if anyone can help I'd be really grateful! It
sounded like the Foo Fighters... ?
Does anyone else absolutely HATE it when you know you've heard a song before
and can't remember what is or where you heard it?
Ok, sorry for bothering you all, but I had a Java exam this afternoon, so
forgive me!
Thanks!!
Alex Jackson

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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 19:38:30 2001
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:38:30 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The gnarl under my thigh is a kind of irregular rhumboid shape, further complicated by a slight ridge heading left to right, although it is possible that this last observation is not unconnected to the back pocket of the jeans I am wearing.
Message-ID: <LAW2-F176OD6gx3lKy800001e28@hotmail.com>

Greg Pallis wrote this:

"And then I started thinking about noses. 'Cos I suddenly realised mine is 
too big, and I was panicked. And then I looked at all my friends, and all 
their noses are too big too. And so is Brad Pitt's, and Britany Spears', and
ewwww! And then I started staring at people on the street, trying 
desperately to find someone with an acceptable nose, and I couldn't. I think 
only a few people on earth might have noses that are just about acceptable.
It is impossible to have a nose that is too small."

And I thought I smelled a rat somewhere.
What about Michael Jackson and Daniella Westbrook I thought? Michael's nose 
is so razor sharp that small children could easily be cut on it. Surely TOO 
SMALL in terms of width?

And Daniella the Coke hoovering slattern is without septum. The 
non-existence of this membrane is in anyone's book TOO SMALL. Non?

Just a thought.

My cycloptic colleague Ian with one I Ian Nicolson very kindly sent me a 
package with all the Go-Betweens' albums nestled within. I was so excited 
when I tore off that shiny gold wrapper so thanks muchly to him.
Or something.
Lots of luurve
Iain




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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 19:45:09 2001
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:45:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Is You Is Or Is You Aint
Message-ID: <000001c08187$4cd88440$da39073e@default>

Hi All,

FAQin Ell, she's back! Nice to see Honey out & about again, & looking so
lovely as well, decked out like a Christmas tree.

Perhaps this might be an opportune moment to mention that the 5th to the
11th of February is National Honey Week, organised by the Honey Association.
There will be lots of activities to promote honey & highlight its
versatility. It has antiseptic properties, historically was used as a wound
dressing & to heal burns & cuts & is even good for face packs: that's right,
get some Honey on your face right now!


Belle and Sebastian bass player for gigs now Stuart David's gone? We've done
this before, haven't we? (Deep breath) Stuart/Isobel/Chris/Neil have all
been seen playing bass on stage before now.


I've been listening to that Michael Shelley 7" & like it. He has an
attractively croaky voice & the songs are OK, with a slightly Fannies feel.
"Baby's In A Bad Mood" is the better side: reminds me of Brinsley
Schwarz/Nick Lowe with Wee Chris' warm swelling organ well to the fore.
"Don't" sees Stevie Reverb living up to his name with loads of big Duane
Eddy geetar, & with Chris on echo-ey electric piano.


I know that Edna W., Mrs mentioned that Future Pilot aka single ages ago but
I've only just got around to listening to it. Restful, tinkly sound, angelic
vocals (of course) but this time with ethnically authentic slurring. Are any
other band members playing on this track? Sounds like Sarah on violin to me,
but maybe that's just fanciful.


Good to see The Pinefox safe on the right side of the Atlantic again. Are
you going to write a song about entertaining the NYC gliterati to dinner at
the Gotham Grill? You said you had a Nigerian Math(s) teacher who was in
love with his work. My German teacher didn't stay so true & is now one of
the 28 cross bench hereditary peers who were elected to stay in the House of
Lords


Peter "Quotation Marks" Miller: I didn't know you loved blonde singers with
beauty spots having  a penchant for 60's tunes.


Nick, try tapping the ice gently with a wooden steak (or vegeburger) mallet.


Re the Lowfly spam: it was really pissing me off too. I sent a few polite
messages asking for no more to be sent, but to no effect. Then I sent
messages of increasing rudeness (& with more & more exclamation marks) &
haven't had any for a while.


Sinister Tolerates Old People


Love & regards,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 22:16:31 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:16:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: B+S content, how to solve your student loan debts, and starsigns
Message-ID: <20010118221631.23294.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,

Okay.
A few things to say.
I know how to write a crappy novel, that will sell
millions to the readership of Cosmopolitan.
How?
Heres the thing:
Heroine. Give her a cool name. Bryony, or Lise, or
um... *thinks* Alexandra, or something like that. Read
Cosmo's contributor/Editor/make up artist name thing
(where it says who does what in order of rank and good
looks out of ten, and how to subscribe to a magazine
that tells you you need to improve cos he won't stay
unless you do X, Y, and Z! ) for ideas for names.
(This instantly guarantees you a review if you use a
name that a member of their staff is called). Heroine
is slightly dotty, hates her current job (works in
something like PR, journalism, publishing, marketing,
Law), mid way through book goes for a career change or
at least job interviews. Some of which, she mucks up
in the most outrageous fashion. If you're stuck for
ideas, read any womans mag in the section where they
print embarrassing true stories. (Not as good as the
ones in the mens mags, but there you go. VPLs,
lipstick on teeth, that sort of drivel) She either
begins the novel in a bad relationship, and gets
dumped for some young hot thing, or she is single and
desperate. Both ideally. She also has lots of baths,
shops in Whistles, and posh London places like that,
but no chanel for her, please, shes a modern girl, and
she needs to shop expensively, but realistically. So
anything designery that Kate Moss would model is out
of the Question. But no Topshop or River Island or
Miss Selfridge. Constantly wishes she was 20 again.
Clever, but reads glossy mags. She is in her late
twenties, early thirties. Has a biological timebomb
for getting married, but whines she never meets he
right one. Is up to her eyeballs in overdraft and
expenses. Her flat is quite messy. She can't afford
the things she really wants. Gets fed up listening to
posh pals afford the things she wants. Part way
through, she appears on Daytime TV. Or the News. Or
Crimewatch UK. 
Hero: successful business slick sexy man, head of his
own company preferably. PR, communications, Law,
whatever. It has to sound cool. And give him a good
name. Bob or Dave won't do. (sorry to any Bob's and
Daves, but its the way of the world.) He meets the
heroine. They argue about things fiercely (setting up
for explosive fireworks in bed, y'see) she does silly
things in front of him (again, read embarrassing true
life stories ) like she gets chatted up by some
dipstick, or her knickers fall down, or both at the
same time, all must be set in formal locations:
offices, court rooms, restaurants, that sort of thing.
He gives her various looks of confusion and "eh?!"
sort of thing. She thinks for a while he fancies her,
she thinks he doesn't, she thinks he fancies her
again, she hates him, they shag.
Her pals: one MUST be infinately prettier than anyone
ever. Long legs, nice chest that sort of thing. Gods
gift to blokes. Another must be all fiery and sparky
and stuff and not ashamed to speak her mind, til half
way through the book, she lets down her strong "men!
Pah!" exterior to reveal she trully wants to settle
down and have babies, shes showing her sensitive side.
One pal must be extremely rich. And she has lots of
extremely rich pals too, and they go pony riding, and
to the gym, and on holiday with ooh... um.... which
ever celebrity couple are still together when you
write this. And they all go out occasionally with
heroine and heroine gets drunk with them and bored.
A couple of Duds: they must be either not particularly
attractive or anything. Call them Bob and Dave if you
must. She will go on the odd date with them. One shall
brag about doing it with her (lie? optional. Probably
a lie though.)the other is rich but boring. She tries
hard to like them, but she can't bring herself to do
it.
Parents: Mum is mad, extravagant, OTT, watches too
much Ricki Lake and Oprah and gets reality and TV
mixed up. Dad likes pottering in the garden. Mum asks
daughter when shes going to settle down, and tries to
help in bizarre ways.
And bang them all together, with a happy ending. Don't
forget, that the hero has to perhaps educateher into
being a little more reserved somehow, in what ever
area shes not reserved enough in. Its a fast track
success to millions. You are the NEW Helen Fielding.
On the other hand, The Sunday times says that
Get-Rich-Quick schemes are not good this year
(horoscope thing) i.e. that whole dotcom millionaire
thing is going to go down again. No gold
there,apparently. Oh, and this year its fashionable to
be a Scorpio or Pisces. (I don't understand where they
get the logic to decide what starsign is
fashionable!!)
 
MOVING SWIFTLY ON...CONTENT THING...
Oh, B+S were a question on the Big Breakfast this
morning. You'll guess who, so I won't both saying
"Guess who!! You'll never guess!". Yes, it was Faye
from Steps. "Which Scottish indie band beat you at the
1999 Brit Awards for best newcomers?". I would have
rephrased that. 
"Which band from Scotland, deservedly whipped your
manufactured shiny plastic arses into place with the
help of their computer literate fans, unlike yours who
aren't old enough to read, to win the 1999 Brit
Awards?" You agree? of course you do. (Mind reading is
a speciality right now.)

I have a headache now, cos I can read all your minds.
And yes, I know exactly what one Sinisterian from
Manchester is planning to do with that cucumber right
now, and it isn't pretty. So I'm off to let you digest
this mess.

Love,
Idles






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From ruvi at xxx.com  Thu Jan 18 13:26:23 2001
From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:26:23 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Felicity, Holly, Oscar, Virginia, Vera, Charles, babies, mothers, breasts and monkeys.
Message-ID: <000201c0819b$b69b02e0$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk>

In light of Ms. Lark's comments about square dancing, I thought I'd mention
my one and only experience with that particular brand of rhythmical
movement. I was, I think, 8 years old, and utterly besotted with a freckly,
black-haired girl called Felicity. What a wonderful name it is, a throw back
to the days when girls were called things like Providence, Epiphany or
Constance, names which carried a certain weight of years and meaning with
them. I had a friendly relationship with Felicity, although we never really
talked too deeply or extensively. I contented myself then, as I still do
now, for the seeds sown in childhood are hard to escape from (not that
escape is necessary), with admiring her from afar, and no one ever suspected
that I was deeply infatuated with her. It has always been a curse of my life
that I am too successful at concealing my thoughts and feelings from others.
If only I were, not exactly transparent, but suggestive when it comes to my
emotions at any given time. Instead I deceive without meaning or wanting to,
and mis-lead when I would rather be understood. But I digress. One day, we
were assembled in a hall with cold, badly varnished floor. It was PE, and I
was wearing the ubiquitous navy blue shorts that barely accounted for
decency, white t-shirt and increasingly sullied plimsoles. For a change, the
teacher said, we would be dancing. Square dancing. To that end we to be
paired off, boy and girl. I felt a thrill of excitement at this novelty and,
of course, hoped fervently that I would be blessed with having Felicity as
my dancing partner. I had never been interested in dancing, being a chubby
and unwieldy boy at the time, self-conscious and filled with loathing at my
rolls of excess baby fat, but the possibility that I may be selected to
dance with Felicity invested square dancing with significance. And so it is
that when something which one was previously indifferent to becomes a means
to a desired end, it suddenly becomes the subject of desire and interest.
But it was not to be. Instead, I was given the hand of another girl, one who
I can't remember. Indeed, my memories of that lesson end after the
disappointment of not being able to dance with my distant beloved, becoming
an indistinct blur of hazy boredom and discomfort. Eventually, after
stumbling around clumsily to the strains of country music that emanated from
the cheap stereo mounted at the front the lesson ended and we assembled by
the entrance to be dismissed. The teacher, before sending us on our way,
told us we would be doing the same next time, and selected new pairs. Then,
ladies and gentleman of the jury (I hope that, if any relative or
afficionado of Nabokov is reading this, they will forgive my slight
plagiarism), fortune favoured me in a way that happens but rarely. It was if
events were actually conspiring to work for me. "Ruvi and....Felicity," that
was what the teacher said so casually, unaware of the gravity of the
selection to me. I could barely wait for the next lesson, where before I had
viewed PE lessons with an unpleasant mixture of humiliation at the scant
clothing and disgust with the pointless physical drilling we underwent. This
time was different however, and I looked forward to PE with hopes and in
anticipation of bliss. Proximity with my dear Felicity without the need to
reveal my feelings. Eventually, after the days dragged by, the time came for
our next PE lesson, and we assembled once more in the cold hall. Then,
fortune played one of its sadistic, perverse, absurd jokes. I looked over at
Felicity, and my interest in her, my attraction to her, disappeared with the
carelessness of a sudden death. In truth, she wasn't looking her best,
having just woken up (PE was, cruelly, the first lesson of the day), and she
had puffy bags around her eyes that made them look like pitted olives
swollen with retained water. But nevetheless, the disappearance of
attraction was more fundamental. It had gone, and it was never to return.
The lesson passed uncomfortably, and I could barely bring myself to look
into Felicity's face. From that point on I had little to say to her and when
we finally left that school and dispersed like a handful of sycamore buds
tossed into the wind I saw her no more. And that, in sum, is my experience
of square dancing. Love that packed its bags and left when the vessel which
is flowed towards was so close and so tangible. Fate could have made this
little story end differently. There was another girl, you see, whose power
over me endured far longer, far beyond the point at which contact with her
ended. Holly Haggley-Pierson was her name, and you'll probably consider it
ugly, but I adored it like I adored everything else about her. We used to
argue, like most young children do when gripped by a strange attraction.
Once more, I hid my deep, abiding infatuation from her so successfully that
nobody ever detected my secret. And she has disappeared her way, and I mine,
and that is that. If I saw her again, no doubt it would be entirely
different; she would detest me, or she would bore me, or we would orbit
different worlds. In a way, meeting her again would efface the happy memory
of her which I still retain, and that would be an act more painful than any
rejection.

And so my little childhood anecdotes end. I have been awake for hours now,
and I must sleep. I had intended to write more (I promise I won't pursue
this intention), but I became rather more immersed in recollections than I
had foreseen. I will put off the inclusion of musical content, pithy
observations, glib wit, trumpet-blowing and other sundries for another day,
preferably a rainy one. I will put them aside and not worry, safe in the
probably illusory knowledge that, next time, oh yes, things will be
different. A post will be written so dazzling, so comprehensive, as to make
Oscar Wilde roll in his grave, the ghost of Virginia Woolf (or perhaps Vera
Zasulich, since Russian revolutionaries are infinitely more attractive to my
tastes) give herself to me, Charles Baudelaire come back for one last
attempt at the divine, babies cry for the safety of their mother's breasts,
and monkeys blush.

Ruvi.

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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 00:39:22 2001
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:39:22 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Acting as grand dillmeister........
Message-ID: <F12c7qIA3EEmYDKFJ2I00000293@hotmail.com>

Welly, well, well....Hidey Ho's to all the Sinistraad (a name which i think 
adds more of a "legion of doom" quality to the list.)

Having been being a little slow on posting these days because of:

1)Quitting smoking.
2)HTML email....(curse the day it was invented!)
3)Getting a new job.

I figure I should just blather on about anything just as long as I post.
Kinda like when you visit your least favorite aunt out of pity.

Actually, the last couple of weeks have been the most boring days I have 
ever had. I cannot believe that after all these years of malfeasance I will 
die of perceived boredom.

Time to readjust.

Turning 26...(yeah, you may be familiar) has been sneaking up on me all my 
life....so slowly that I've barely noticed. But not having to struggle or 
not being challenged has taken some wind out of my sails.

I have never been good at "happy".

In the spirit of the dual nature of [Sin]ister, I give you two offerings:

1)

Fuck me gently with a chainsaw.
You might as well with your torture-chamber-deathrock macabre.
You play my organs in minor keys
and blow my pipes in mournful tunes while slamming fists pound on my chest 
playing counterpoint with the headboard.
Your voice
is
ink-dark, underwater black
reaching me slowly.
Melodic moans stretch over me like a tight sheet of satin.
Sing sirenlike and I'll come.

2)

In flames, I land from brimstone-falling ecstasy for unknown power, tossed 
from open-mouthed, white flecked skies.
I gaped chasmlike at the melodiously ringing celestial harmonic river of 
electrowaves.
And in that time, I saw the center of the consonant note.
Clear as crystal rang my soul at the rightness of this sensory spectacle.
Velvet.
Velvet feel on my couch of comfort.
For once everything equal, all forces balanced.
Womb of solace.....warm place,
the flannel....the lace
and powder and browns and greens
and soft and softly lit.
A space where candles are flaming always
and slow mist falls over green hills.
Rocks sit...still storytelling silence.
Screaming the mossy call of
one
lone
note
ringing in my dazed consciousness.



The Pickle Prince



P.S. Here's a bonus.

Everyman = EM
ThePicklePrince = PP

EM: Are you crazy?
PP: Indeed! But do not reject these teachings as false because I am
    crazy. The reason that I am crazy is because they are true.
EM: What IS true?
PP: Everything is true.
EM: Even false things.
PP: Even false things are true.
EM: How can that be?
PP: I don't know, man. I didn't do it!
EM: Why do you deal with so many negatives?
PP: To dissolve them.
EM: Will you develop that point?
PP: No
EM: Is there an essential meaning behind all this?
PP: There is a Zen story about a student who asked a Master to explain
    the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "3 pounds of Flax".
EM: Is that your answer to my question?
PP: No, of course not. That is just illustrative.
    The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF OF FLAX!

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From MyMomSays at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 08:19:47 2001
From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:19:47 EST
Subject: Sinister: Sinicon Twee Riot
Message-ID: <86.5b80df3.279952a3@aol.com>

All the pretty little folks in #sinister and I have decided that it's about 
time there's a goddamn sinister convention for once. 
Sinicon Twee Riot 2001. So. Who wants to arrange it? I'll bring chips.

lv,
mandee
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From gregh at xxx.net  Fri Jan 19 08:31:09 2001
From: gregh at xxx.net (Greg Hatmaker)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:31:09 -0500
Subject: Sinister: hiding in the tall grass, waiting
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010119033109.0094c370@pop3.norton.antivirus>

She knew I liked stories. I took a rest from telling them and stopped to
listen a bit. I feel old here. And she, well, she is just ancient in
comparison. But as one of you noticed, she looks young for her age (a
curious compliment). She could Mrs. Robinson any of you boys (if only any
of you were so lucky).  

"Heroin and rain," she said, "grey, lovely rain." I remember. The land here
remembers. Its tongue hangs like a dry axolotl. I drive past the fire
station every day and am reminded that I live here at my own "moderate",
now turned into a "severe" risk. 

Of course, she hoped that I would like Belle and Sebastian. In her
enthusiasm, however...

And so I joined this list without ever hearing a single B&S tune. The
important thing to her, of course, was to share...and that regardless of
any eventuality, I would be here. And so here I am (playing with matches at
my own "severe" risk).

She had a few things to go on, though. It wasn't a blind shot in the dark.
When she was sending me snippets of your stories and of your thoughts, she
knew that she had scored hits with me before...first with her poems and the
way she cast her eyes downwards to a black page with grey letters and
ghostly x-rayed flowers, the simplicity, elegance, charmteaseandbite of her
web-self, then later with Lush, The Cocteau Twins, and Cinerama...and of
course, we already shared The Church with each other (new album out April
24th, After Everything, buy it). Oh, and if any of you recognize me from
the other list--I am not a refugee, and I am sorry to have followed you
here. But you see, it wasn't you I followed.

Cinerama was close, but it was no guarantee. So, she folded her hands and
waited. No, she didn't. She took straightaway to the stores and shops in
search of something to send me and settled on Tigermilk. The days passed
and I was closer to being let out of the nursery. I wondered what I would
say to all of you. There was a certain wickedness to my thoughts, thinking
about how I'd shrug my shoulders and say, "B&S? Never heard 'em. Can I
still play in your reindeer games?" I wondered if Honey would stuff me back
into my cheap box.

My xmas present arrived just a few days before Honey let me out. I heard
the first song and thought of Don McLean and American Pie. I liked it. I
liked the rest of Tigermilk, especially any songs with the guy/girl vox.
Still have no idea what any of the words are. Right now I'm working on
getting down all the strum and the la la la. It's catchy. I can always go
to her website and keep clicking away at her random lyric generator,
memorize, then cut and paste the disparate words with all the la la la I'm
storing away in the secret places of my head.

At my convenience, I'll crack open Boy with the Arab Strap. Let me absorb
Tigermilk first, however, especially before sending all your suggestions.
Don't rush me. There's too much good stuff out there for me to be
exclusive...much in the same way some would think of boys, others with girls. 

What follows has nothing to do with anything. Doesn't mean you can just
ignore it though. 

pictures have been developed.
send you a selection
and
otherthings
tomorrow, i will. be good
to my turtle
as he seems to be lost
under your futon,
perhaps? you will send
to florida should you find?
-me-

g!
 
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From mod4real at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 10:35:10 2001
From: mod4real at xxx.com (Chan Toby)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:35:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Sinicon Twee Riot
Message-ID: <20010119103510.53766.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com>

Good Name! Mandee.

  a Twee riot!! 
  lets us riot!! Outside the concert of Ricky Martin!
  
  2 or 3 things i know bout RIOT:

  I played my Atari Teenage Riot mp3 on my PC
when i was working for dotlove.com HK as music
page editor and the movie channel guy, a good old punk
who has seen Buzzcock live said : "It Rocks!"
(he also likes asian dub foundation)

  I am still reading the Riot book NO LOGO.
I dun like Nike anyway... but Adidas.. how can i
boycott it if i am wearing my Samba everyday

  And pls go to watch the Japanese movie
"Battle Royale". I ve seen in in Hong Kong.

  <Belle and Sebastian Content>

  I saw the Gentle Wave Tee Shirts at B&S site.
some are quite nice. but i ve got too much Tee.

Toby C
Island East
Hong Kong  
--- MyMomSays at aol.com wrote:
> All the pretty little folks in #sinister and I have
> decided that it's about 
> time there's a goddamn sinister convention for once.
> 
> Sinicon Twee Riot 2001. So. Who wants to arrange it?
> I'll bring chips.
> 
> lv,
> mandee


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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 11:52:02 2001
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:52:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  My son, she'll only drive it away
Message-ID: <20010119115202.2166.qmail@web1604.mail.yahoo.com>

Over two nights we listened to sixty-nine songs.  Some were old favourites
that hung in the air like the family wash on a breezy day.  The
wallflowers of the album pulled their gladrags from the wardrobe, put on a
bit of slap and sparkled.  Laughter at lyrics took me by surprised and
left me feeling slightly puzzled, like friends laughing at Grandad's
favourite joke.  I left it until the new year to buy tickets, but in the
end I'm glad I couldn't go when I'd wanted to.  Spending Saturday Night
with the Magnetic Fields seems somehow incongrous.  Occasional bouts of
nerves, the odd mistiming between singer and musician, a giant Portugese
lemon and away on the District Line for work the next morning.  Perfect.

Well, the people on this list are no strangers to smut, but it looks like
Starry has outstripped us all with her particular brand of filth.  Well
done my dear.  My bra is meagre in comparison to Isobel's headscarf.  I am
tempted to reveal the identities of the listees who confessed their
single-handed approach to brassiere removal and those who stuck up for the
fumblers of this world but... well, that would be wicked.  Your blushes
are spared, my lovelies.  I will, however, divulge that one gentleman sent
me detailed instructions on How It's Done and it appears that in general,
the list prefers doing it with one hand rather than two.

Did you see there's going to be an All Tomorrow's Parties in the USofA? 
Click on this http://www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk and have a look at the
Future Events bit.

Juicy Lucy


ps.  Nick, sweetie, I'm worried about what you've been doing to our
freezer.  Electrical appliances and dripping water in close proximity
could do you no end of damage.


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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Fri Jan 19 12:14:21 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:14:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Fairy Tailed in New York
Message-ID: <000901c08212$aa1ca4c0$1e6c253e@itjfvkli>

I can't believe Stuart spunked up all over Jenowl's tent as well! He wants
to be careful - look what happened to Papercuts pin-up Boris Becker.

I'm really stuck for ideas for this Sillistrations competition...

The Pinefox, did you go and see that Foxgloves photo in New York? Were there
any stragglers from the lumberjack community?

Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Dave and Charles (on the other side) have both enquired
about my relationship with Petula "Kipper" Clark. Well my dad, Daddy Rollin'
Stone, had Pet Clark records, so they're about as familiar as pooing your
pants. More impressively, I'VE SEEN PETULA CLARK LIVE! Albeit starring as
Maria von Trapp in the West End production of The Sound of Music. I must
have been at a funny age because I distinctly rmemeber having my opera
glasses trained on the eldest daughter, who had big knockers and a nightie
on. But no, I'm not a big Petula Clark fan, in fact I'm alarmed by the
vastness of her back catalogue CD reissue programme. I can sum up what I
have against Petula Clark in two words: TONY and HATCH. Also, I've always
thought B&S were more of a Lulu group. Discuss.

Following Youn's suggestion that I show Cameron Crowe a thing or two, I
looked him up and found the following:
"this is a coming-of-age tale that owes its tangible authenticty to Crowe's
real-life experiences as a teenage reporter who toured with the legendary
Led Zeppelin."
Rock on!

Yesterday I heard "Legal Man" in IKEA, a shop where they give you free
pencils. But it wasn't the best modern soul classic on offer, we had Dexy's
Midnight Runners and The Korgis as well. The Korgis must be Barcelona's
national anthem, I've heard it loads of times here.

It has stopped raining.

Sister Disco

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From raskolnikoff at xxx.net  Fri Jan 19 13:05:12 2001
From: raskolnikoff at xxx.net (Richard Skinner)
Date: 19 Jan 2001 13:05:12 +0000
Subject: No subject
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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 15:09:23 2001
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:09:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  Once again, nme.com beats the Jeepster mailing hands down at getting us the news.....
Message-ID: <20010119150923.25038.qmail@web1606.mail.yahoo.com>

Alright, alright, I know I've just posted.  It is content, though and not,
I suspect, unconnected to Peter Miller's inability to post without
mentioning Petula Clark.  Am I right?

http://nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13623,00.html

Does Honey have spelling-mistake-insertion software?  I always read
through what I've written before pressing send (anal, moi?) and yet I
always spot errors when my posts come back to me.

Jiucy Lcuy

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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 15:35:25 2001
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: cold mashed potatoe,tractors,the canterbury tales and ornamental fish ponds....
Message-ID: <20010119153525.6151.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com>

hello.....
....thought i would take time off from the giddy
social whirl that is my life and drop you all a
line...it'll have to be quick though...my silk
hankerchiefs havnt been pressed for tonights cocktail
gathering,the maid has run off with my yacht and tara
palmer tomkinson is lying on the lawn face down in the
ornamental fish pond....the above statement may or may
not be lies.....
....i'm having lovely dreams about running down every
member of the A level exam board in a large
tractor..its *ARGH* mock exams in one week and i can
safely say that the last eighteen months of college
has passed through me like an undercooked chicken
korma...i know nothing....but when youre studying
chaucer i dont suppose that matters..anyone who has
ever had the misfortune to read these paticular works
of english will sympathise...oh how the teachers try
to sell it to you as tales of murder,debauchery and
lewd sexual conduct...in truth they understand as much
as their bewildered students.... example:

o leeve sire shrewe, Jhseu shorte thy lef!
yet prechstow and seist an hateful wyf
yrekened is for oon of thise meschances
been ther non othere manner resemblances

..theres a packet of slightly melted maltesers for
anyone who can find the sexual conduct in that...or
indeed understand a word...i'm sure its a very
interesting story and the language is very
beautiful...but come on now....
...hmmmmm...square dancing...i had similar
experiences....shivering in your indecently short
shorts and wishing that you would be paired off with
that paticular days most beautiful girl..fickle is the
mind of an eight year old...the fact that the hall
used for PE was also used for eating lunch and that
the lesson was always directly after the feeding
frenzy took away the romantic atmosphere somewhat...it
was extremely hard to dosie doe when you were in
danger of treading in cold mashed potatoe at every
twirl..hmmmmm.....
....content? i'll make a vain stab...just to say that
i have really grown to love FYHCYWLAP in the last week
or so...in my humble opinion it beats the pants
(although very chraming pants they are) off
TBWTAS...and its the best washing up album in the
world...ever!....yes this may sound strange but
searching for that last elusive teaspoon while 'womans
realm' plays is an experience not to be missed...or
maybe my life needs more meaning...probably...but
hey..i'll be playing a live gig in just over a month
and i'm ridicolously excited...and very,very
scared...i'm considering wearing some kind of mask to
hide my blushes if i play the drums like a fool...or
animal from the muppet babies...i'm far too innocent
to talk about the undoing of bras so i'll be going....
ta ta!

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From pinefox1 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 19 17:23:23 2001
From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:23:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: notebooks outplayed your lists
Message-ID: <20010119172323.15256.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com>


You may see me around Hammersmith tube at around 6:30
this evening, scratching my head and frantically
scribbling something in the usual southeastern scrawl.
Don't pay any attention, I'll just be writing down the
Magnetic Fields' set-list.


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From sleeper at xxx.com  Sat Jan 20 03:38:06 2001
From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 3:38:06 GMT
Subject: Sinister: 3... 6... 8 and a half.... Seconds of Light
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Sat Jan 20 03:59:06 2001
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:59:06 +1300
Subject: Sinister: Jeepster News ...now coming from Auckland, New Zealand, motto: "Where the action is"
Message-ID: <008601c08295$958f2c20$056137d2@computer>

OK, firstly, appologies if you've already read this. Secondly, appoligies if
anyone has pipped me at the post and sent this to the list earlier today. I
get the digest, so I'm perpetually a few hours behind the rest of
sinist*r-land.

OK, from the NME.com (ie. possible *completely wrong and/or innacurate)

***BELLE AND SEBASTIAN NEWSFLASH***
(formally bought to you by Jeepster News, which now seems to no longer
exist. Remember how exciting getting those e-mails used to be? ... c'mon
Jeepster ... don't let some fat kind in New Zealand do your job for you
.....)

here goes ....
*******************************
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN have been working in the recording studio with the
producer of PETULA CLARK's '60s smash hit 'DOWNTOWN', NME.COM can
exclusively reveal.
The Glasgow-based group - who scored a Number 15 hit with their last single,
'Legal Man' - recorded two new songs this week in the city's CaVa studios
with Mike Hurst, who produced the Grammy-winning classic Clark single, which
in 1964 topped the US charts and went to Number Two in Britain.

A spokesperson for the band told NME.COM: "They recorded two new songs,
which don't have names yet. We approached Mike Hurst, and he was up for it.
Everyone's a fan of 'Downtown'." Hurst, who lives in London, was a member of
Dusty Springfield's backing band The Springfields and also produced records
by Manfred Mann.

Describing the new songs as "pop songs," the spokesperson said that the
intention had been to record a single, but the band were still undecided
what to do with them. They have another new track which was recorded last
year while they were doing their XFM charity Christmas compliation album
track, 'O Come, O Come Emmanuel'.".
*******************************

Cool, although I would really like a new album this year, *something* sure
won't go amiss.

In other Jeepster news, Ian Maculloch of Echo & The Bunnymen fame, has been
signed to Jeepster and will release a solo album at the end of the year.
This has nothing to do with the scheduled Bunnymen album also due later this
year on Cooking Vinyl.

That's it for me, and for Jeepster.

Lawrence.

PS - Laura Llew, I love you for reigniting my dormant love of The Pixies.




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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sat Jan 20 05:06:42 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:06:42 +0000
Subject: Sinister: I stalk Andrea Corr
Message-ID: <200101200502.FAA28711@missprint.org>

Hello,

Wow, after the longest Sinister mail subject line ever (The gnarl...I am 
wearing), someone has cunningly beaten it by adding Re: in front of it 
and cheekily stolen the award!  Nice one, I'm going for the award for the 
crappiest subject line ever, I think I've done a good job.

Talking of jobs, woohoo they HAVE reschuduled by interview to some day 
that is not too far in the future!  So I still have a chance of getting 
this job yet, which pays great cash and apparently sends me to Nude York 
for a few weeks' training at the start of it!

Ruvi Summons talked about his experience with dance and love and PE, which 
just triggered my youthhood memories too...

Back in primary school when I was 10, I was still living in Hong Kong then, 
I remember there was this girl that I really fancied, pretty as the world 
could be, she was.  She lives in the next block of flats as I was, so we 
kind of lived quite close.

I was never really in her circle of friends so I never really talked to her, 
except when I walk home with her and stuff.  Although it's only a 2 minutes 
walk home, I treasured every second of it.

Anyhow that went on for 2 years and in our class, our seats get rearranged 
every 6 months, and on my final year of primary school, with some stroke of 
luck I got put right next to her!  That final 6 months was a dream come 
true.  I got to be friends with her and stuff (as much of a friend as my 
wussiness took me anyway).

For some reason, at the final few weeks, she was being really nice to me and 
she would like tap me on the shoulder and then giggle and run off.  I never 
knew what that meant.

After primary school I moved to England with my family, and then a few 
months into that, the idea has finally struck home.  She fancied me too, 
but, by then, it was all too late...

She was probably the only girl who ever liked me!  Or maybe there are 
other girls who do/did, that I am just being an idiot again and haven't 
realised!

The moral of the story is I dunno, that Ken's an idiot I guess.

Childhood crushes and Red Bulls
Ken
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and I bet you're making shells back home for a sturdy boy to wear
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From allycook96 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 20 15:06:41 2001
From: allycook96 at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:06:41 -0000
Subject: Sinister: January's little joke
Message-ID: <F18SjMKtWNymWzAKbn0000004f1@hotmail.com>

Discoveries recently: Cake, by The Trashcan Sinatras, which is a lovely 
album, makes me want to dance crazy tears, whatever that could mean, as many 
of the best often do. Having been told of their greatness for ages by Ailsa 
(see archives: 'soapbox') and more recently The King Of Partick (see Peter 
Hook fanclub membership #1009), I finally, truly, believe it.

Napster (well, not that recently, just since I got home internet a few 
months ago). It's good isn't it, getting music and not having to pay for it. 
Like being given tapes and cds for free, which has been happening 
occasionally lately as well.  Anyway, listening to The Negatives (NYC, 1998) 
do Jennifer She Said so wonderfully reminded me of that festival thingy I 
went to last year (CS, 2000). Many things seem to. Smiles as ba ba dada da 
da comes around. Chalet booked for this year. Wonderful.

For 22 years now I've been mostly unmusical. There was my wizard recorder 
playing in primary school (oh, you heard about it?), and I (in)famously sing 
like a girl (a bad girl, obviously), but that's been about it. Anyway, now 
I'm sort of learning to play the guitar, only I don't actually have a 'axe' 
(is that correct terminology?) so I can only practice at friends' houses, 
but it's a start. Without an end, most probably, but the best things are 
usually open-ended.

I should be playing "chords", apparently. At the moment I'm having only 
limited success. 'A House Is Not A Motel' is perhaps the easiest thing I 
have found so far, which is handy, it being a great song.

Could anyone give me the "chords" to any of the Go-Betweens songs, 
preferably those without bar "chords", since I can't play those yet. There 
don't seem to be any on the modern interweb. I know I'm being boring, I 
apologise. Thank you.

Some people said some things (they always do, and I'm still glad for it). I 
shall attempt to recount some things which they said. Typed.

Here's The Pinefox. I still know of no others. Though even if I did know of 
others, I wouldn't know of others.

>Welthorpe was once, I recall, interested in - was it? - Edward Gorey, who 
>is also commemorated some way or other >somewhere over there. Not the same, 
>of course, as S&G's 'Richard >Corey'.

Fine things to be interested in. But spare a thought for Jackanory. At a 
pinch, ...Morning Glory. Or even Tobermory. I always thought the Wombles 
were common, until I found out it was just where they lived. Tobermory? No, 
Wimbledon. John Fashanu? No, but he made that clay sculpture over there...

Nick Dastoor took us through the various methods of defrosting fridges. 
Nick, you sound like a good person to live with, I think I might move in 
with you for a week or so, say around the beginning of Febuary. Would that 
be OK?

The Mousy fellow also said:
>you can guarantee
>that half of us will say something along the lines of 'well it might >not 
>be my
>favourite album of theirs, but it's still better than anything else 
> >around'.
>This is a sure sign that we've become REM fans.

Hey, some of us already are!

Le Renard de Pines (encore):

>Folk in New York have heard of la Welthorpe, by the way. But they can't 
> >put a face to the name. Can you?

I could, but that's what the photographs are for. However, even those aren't 
sufficient, damn it, I mean they're all the same; eyes skyward, 
little-girl-lost. It's time for something new, so lets run a competition to 
find a new pose for Welthorpe. Answers on a post-it note, just stick them to 
Nick's fridge.

Pinefox also told us not to remember Kingmaker; and we had, until he went 
and mentioned them. Oh no!

On an unrelated note, I thought it was common knowledge that Struan and 
Isobel used to go out with each other, so why is everyone so surprised to 
discover they actually had sex? Isn't that normal boyfriend-girlfriend 
behaviour, or have I got it wrong?

Look, it's Iain Hatcher:
>My cycloptic colleague Ian with one I Ian Nicolson very kindly sent me >a 
>package with all the Go-Betweens' albums nestled within.

What a nice boy that Nicholson chap is. Can one be a 'boy' and a 'chap' at 
the same time? And he looks a bit like Nick Cave as well. Iain, be sure to 
get them wrapped in cotton wool straight away, there's a good lad. You are 
the luckiest man of the week. Can one be a 'lad' and....oh, forget it...

Andrew Churchman was very kind and typed out the lyrics to Hurley's Having 
Dreams. However, being as anal as I am, when your own ears hear certain 
mistakes, they must be corrected. So I'll try to. This might not be right 
either though.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here she comes in the April sun in her dungarees
And she's up for fun.
Smiling like she's a crazy girl and she makes a
Face like she owns the place, and she does.
We indulge ourselves in creating a neck of beauty
And circumstance.   Not to mention her bold intention
To keep the band and she's only 17.

Now she's 8 months pregnant, in a dress she's so elegant.
Does a handstand maybe, though it's not good for the
baby.
Oh, Hurley's having dreams, little Hurley's having
dreams, and
He kicks and then he screams, and I can't get to
sleep.  Oh Hurley I could weep!

Hurley dreams of the time when he was a horse in
Czechoslovakia.
Hurley dear you're a human being, have your fun just
now but gonna have to deal.

She looks so fantastic, pale blue sun specs made of
plastic.  How she used to love me, her love goes on little Hurley.

Oh, Hurley's having dreams, little Hurley's having
dreams, and
He kicks and then he screams, and I can't get to
sleep.  Oh Hurley I could weep!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wake up, wake up, it's that summer feeling again! Soon, soon...

Alasdair xx

PS Forgot to say WELCOME BACK ARCHEL! YAY!













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From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 20 17:31:50 2001
From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:31:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: thanks for the corrections...
Message-ID: <20010120173150.1003.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com>

hi, 
   I just wanted to thank everyone who e-mailed me or
the list to help clean up some of the confusion with
the "Hurley's Having Dreams" lyrics I sent. 
Ecspecially Nick, JenOwl, and Alasdair.  I think
Alasdair's was right on the money.   Sometimes it's
hard for my little American ears to understand
Stuart's Scotish accent.  Maybe we could work on
"London Has Let Me Down" next?  ok thanks again.

  -- andrew  


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From carle at xxx.com  Sat Jan 20 19:38:40 2001
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:38:40 -0500
Subject: Sinister: F.Y.I. tangent
Message-ID: <3A69E940.2A27AAE0@rcn.com>

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLOWING IS PASTED TEXT FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.

"LOOPER INKS WORLDWIDE RECORD DEAL WITH MUTE

Looper, the Glasgow four-piece led by Stuart David co-founder of 
Belle and Sebastian, have ended months of speculation by signing a 
world wide record deal with Mute.

Looper, who in the last two years have released two critically 
acclaimed albums "Up A Tree" and "The Geometrid" through Sub Pop 
(U.S) and Jeepster (UK), recently completed a successful tour of the 
United States as special guests of The Flaming Lips.

Announcing the deal, Mute founder, Daniel Miller said  "I am a huge 
fan of the first two albums so when I heard Looper were looking for a 
new label it was an obvious one for me to pursue. It's not just their 
wide range of musical qualities I admire but  the really  strong 
visual sense they express in all aspects of their work, this is a 
very exciting signing for the label."

  Looper are currently writing new material and will return to the 
studio later this year to begin recording their debut for Mute which 
is set for release in 2002."

MY OPINION BEGINS HERE
my guess is that Stuart might be coming across the pond soon.
cheers
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Sat Jan 20 22:22:10 2001
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:22:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: looper de do
Message-ID: <20010120222210.20290.qmail@web2304.mail.yahoo.com>

mute were impressed over looper's wide range of
musical qualities?  such talk about a grebo.

and the bit about the visual experience was funny too,
do they have a more elaborate setup in the UK for
their shows?  here they simply showed a bunch of
poorly made home videos of street signs and linda
mccartney david.  
the story about the guy watching the robbery made me
sigh over the spectator aspect of life, this guy(sorry
i forgot your name) made all sorts of judgements and
pre-suppositions based on a quick glance.  the
subliminal racism line was precious.  
i guess he never thought to leave his car and be a
good citizen, not that i would either mind.

i just saw a television commercial that used bits of
the ladybug transistor's 'the great british spring',
lovely.  too bad their new record has been delayed
until april.  

i am wathing mtv now, what a conceited network, half
of their programming is t&a and the rest is
documentaries about mtv.  how compelling to watch
mental giants like dave holmes and john norris wax
nostalgic over chumbawumba and rico suave.  o course i
was once almost impressed that i was eating in the
same restaurant as chris connelly.  

keith m
new cloudboy record soon.  i bet lawrence from nz will
get it before me.  

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From david at xxx.uk  Sun Jan 21 20:03:03 2001
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:03:03 -0000
Subject: Sinister: use your imagination...
Message-ID: <MABBIEGAGBDOGHPKCDMHEELHCAAA.david@belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk>

Sorry to bother you all again,

Just a quick note to let you all know that this is the last week that you
can vote in the www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Review of 2000. Visit
the site, follow the links to Votes then Best of 2000 and fill in the form.
Alternatively if you can't be bothered with that or if your browser/ISP will
not allow you to send the form results, send me an email
(david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Subject: 2000), listing your 5
favourite albums released in 2000, 5 favourite songs from 2000, favourite
band during 2000, album from 2000 you regret buying, best gig of 2000 and
memories of 2000. You don't need to complete all the categories just
whatever takes your fancy, but please try and join the survey if you can.

I will stop taking votes after Sunday 28th, and will get back to you with
the results as soon as I can be bothered working them out...

Dave
david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk
www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

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From cellophanesky at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 07:26:52 2001
From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:26:52 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Of Content and Off Content
Message-ID: <a05010401b6918c1f407c@[209.246.98.7]>

Dear Sinisterines,
	So, it is again the time when writing posts with content 
contained therein becomes an option. Rumors and confirmed rumors are 
again springing up everywhere. So since no one I have seen has 
mentioned it, the band updated their website, confirming the Pet 
Clark producer-involved single recording action, mentioning 25 musos 
in the studio (images of that party used for the recording of a 
FISHYCLAP song which never saw the light of day pop into my head).
	So if anyone at all remembers my post a month or two ago, 
where I mentioned running into Stuart Murdoch at a Go-Betweens show 
and I refused to reveal the reason they were in town, they have now 
revealed it on belleandsebastian.co.uk. That being that they are 
doing the soundtrack to a movie. So whoever directed this movie is 
based in NY apparently, Stuart didn't mention who it was, but he said 
they'd come to New York to see a screening of it and see if it was 
something they'd be interested in doing. Guess it was. Perhaps we can 
look forward to more random New York Struan sightings.
	So I've got some more content, even. Earlier in the week my 
friend and I trekked into Manhattan and I picked up a copy of the 12" 
version of Legal Man. Only because I'm a sad, sad record collector 
and the 12" version of Judy Is a Dick Slap is different, dammit. 
Sooooo I listened to it and some thoughts came to me. It's not much 
different from the first bit of the version on the CD, but that 
lovely lovely Felt-sounding quiet piano bit at the end of the CD 
version was nowhere to be found. So....is it part of of Judy... at 
all? Is it a Songs for Children-type interlude bit? I am inclined to 
think it is. I like it a lot. I have actually put just that bit on 
two mixtapes now. It makes an excellent final song when you only have 
a tiny bit of space. But to me, it would have sounded really really 
nice in with the album instead of the single. I love little 
instrumental interludes and reprises and the like. Some of the best 
albums ever feature them quite prominently. It's as if they separate 
an album from a simple collection of songs. A good example being Her 
Handwriting by Trembling Blue Stars.
	Speaking of which (segueway. note you) I also observed this 
week some exciting new by my other favorite band, the aforementioned 
TBS. That being that they're playing here in New York. Which is 
incredibly exciting as I never expected to see them ever. I've 
already seen B&S so if I manage to catch this show that will mean I 
will have managed to see both my favorite bands. Quite an achievement 
if you ask me.
	This has been a lovely weekend of late nights in late night 
diners with late night diner fare and conversation, warm places on 
cold nights and walking through freshly fallen snow at 3:30 trying 
not to fall down or let my friend do the same. I hope all of yours 
were equally nice.



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From declan63 at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 08:36:24 2001
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 03:36:24 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Of Content and Off Content
References: <a05010401b6918c1f407c@[209.246.98.7]>
Message-ID: <004601c0844e$68783dc0$ab9d56d1@athen1.ga.home.com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Pennington" <cellophanesky at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:26 AM
Subject: Sinister: Of Content and Off Content


That being that they are
> doing the soundtrack to a movie. So whoever directed this movie is
> based in NY apparently, Stuart didn't mention who it was, but he said
> they'd come to New York to see a screening of it and see if it was
> something they'd be interested in doing.

could it possibly be hal hartley?  there's already been a connection established, and hartley has been making a new movie.

well, just an educated guess at best.

jay

"they didn't advertise for killers in the newspaper"


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From jordiet at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 11:33:36 2001
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 22 Jan 2001 11:33:36 +0000
Subject: Sinister: "A commercial break it´s a good time for thinking about future
    projects that may never see the light, like a sex-change"
Message-ID: <20010122113336.26536.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net>

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Mon Jan 22 12:00:23 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:00:23 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The Captain Peacock Manifesto
Message-ID: <000d01c0846b$15c56900$8469243e@itjfvkli>

Linda McCartney David's husband Stuart McCartney David has turned his
website - http://www.geometrid.co.uk - into a novel and intriguing
promotional site for his forthcoming book "The Peacock Redemption". It's got
far too much swearing in it for my liking. I've only had a quick glance
through it, but it looks interesting... see what you think of it and report
back here to the Cavalcade of Content that is the New Rejuventated Sinister.

I hope the B&S score is for an Eddie Murphy film. I can't stand that stupid
Hal Hartley.

Still, each unto their own. Live and let live, that's what I say.

Peter

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From honey at xxx.org  Mon Jan 22 12:17:01 2001
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:17:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: more unsolicited emails. please stop.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101221159500.351-100000@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Grrr.  More unsolicited emails, this time from another source.
Someone advertising a website for Nick Drake, whose URL shall be
nameless at least in this mail because they don't need more
publicity, appears to have taken it upon themselves to send
unsolicited emails to list members, including me.  I'd say this was
genuine ignorance of internet courtesy from a novice if it wasn't for
the facts that:

(a) he's mailing from different email addresses, hotmail accounts, not
from his main one on the website, presumably because he's getting
complaints,

(b) he's not responding to emails asking him to stop,

(c) he's selling something on his website, thus the need to act
illegally, presumably,

which doesn't really seem fair seeing none of us are selling
something.  Presumably he thinks we're fair game because we've been
known to wear cardigans and duffle coats and all that.  I bet he wears
a suit.

I won't bore you to tears: there's a bit more information under
"What's New" on the Sinister webpage.  The effect of this is,
unfortunately, that I've had to take the membership lists offline for
now: sorry, as I know some of you found this convenient to check your
subscriptions.  Maybe the person who's doing this (who is probably a
member under yet another email address) could just stop?

If you do need to search for an email address, or check your own
subscription, you can still use the email search form at:

	http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/listee.cgi

I mean, you know?

If you'd like to tell me you've been receiving these junk emails,
it'd be useful if I have to take more steps to stop it: again, just
send me a *blank* email with "junk email from nick drake site" in the
subject.

My world is still fragrant.
Honey x

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From angelfairybelle at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 14:40:59 2001
From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:40:59 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F1293LstPGtPrPrvCWO00003e56@hotmail.com>

hmm.  it's one of those days.
you know when you wake up and for the first second or so you're totally 
happy as if there's nothing wrong but then you remember stuff and then 
things get back to normal?  those first couple of seconds are magical.  i 
had that this morning, then my EvilRoommate (tm) put bangin'hard house trnce 
"music" on full blast and made syuch a noise, just to be nasty and wake me 
up.  EvilRoommate is a bee-atch.

then when i arrived at the technological haven of easyeverything they'd put 
all the Badly Drawn Boy album on.....right now "Once Around The Block" is 
on, and it's lovely.

yesterday it was snowing in the morning.  me and my,*ahem*, "friend" David 
watched it when we woke up. it was beautiful.  david is sweet.  i've known 
him since i was 3 cos his gran is my neighbour at home and every summer his 
family would come and visit. then we met up in glasgow and now we meet up 
quite a lot.  only we aren't going out, in a boyfriend-and-girlfriend kind 
of way because i still have a thing about my boy who wears a cute blue 
fleece and gives me neil young tapes and takes me for drives in his wee red 
nissan micra. aah, LovelyRoss.  *sigh*

i think Stuart D has lost the plot.  far too much swearing and stuff in 
hisnew book.  but i've seen Evil Bob for real and he is a funny wee guy with 
a passion for hairnets and the trumpet.

i think i'm gonna go visit the lighthouse.
cheerio
amy xxx
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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 22 16:56:45 2001
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:56:45 +0000
Subject: Sinister: soundalikes and indiekid abuse
Message-ID: <3A6C664D.B5AEEC83@ruskin.ac.uk>

I thought that Peter Miller *used* to
say live and let live, but in this ever
changing world in which we live in...

Anyway, so there i was lying in bed on
Saturday morning listening to Sounds of
the Sixties on Radio 2 (YES I LISTEN TO
RADIO TWO AND I'M PROUD) and Brian
Matthews played "I want you " by that
Bobby Dylan, and in my semi-slumbering
state I thought, "hold on, i recognise
that little guitary bit in the chorus,
it's rather similar to the state that i
am in, i wonder if anyone has noticed
this".  So being a good sinibaby i
trawled the archives, and between about
30 people asking if bobby had been in
any movies, there it was mentioned back
in the dawn of time, when it were all
hairy caves and 70s WHO.

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199710/msg00581.html

But this got me thinking, I haven't seen
a definitive list of "songs that B&S
songs sound like/have been 'influenced'
by", and i was thinking of putting one
together, unless someone out there has
done it already.  Anyway the ones i can
think of are:

The State that I am in - I want you -
Bobby Dylan
Slow Graffitti - Laughing Gnome - Dame
David Bowie
Mary Jo - Winters Tale - Gypsy King
David Essex
LLPJ - Some obscure soul record Calumn
once played me
String Bean Jean - The Kids Are Not
Alright - The Offspring (although the
influence was the other way round on
that one)

I'm sure there are more that have been
mentioned over the many moons of the
list, but those are the ones that spring
immediately to mind.

So the idea is if you can think of any
more, send them to me (the more tenuous
and unlikely the better) and then i'll
make a big list and put it on the modern
interweb somewhere, probably
www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/allmusicisintrinsicallyrelated.html
or something...

96 mentioned the wombles, who
coincidentally were mentioned on
millionaire the other nite on the
fastest finger question:

"Put these wombles in alphabetical order

a)  Bungo
b)  Tomsk
c)  Wellington
d)  Orrinoco"

Who the hell is BUNGO????  I've never
heard of him, i think they just made him
up, cos if they put Madame Cholet there
would have been arguments about whether
it started with a M or a C.

Not that i was talking about kids TV, oh
no, that's RIGHT OUT.

vu mentioned makeoutclub.com.  For a
complete demolition (in a funny way) of
makeoutclub and it's members read tanya
at:

http://www.freakytrigger.com/indie2.html

made me laugh anyway :)

enough

xoxo
CarsmileSteve
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From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 18:27:16 2001
From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:27:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: London Has let me Down lyrics
Message-ID: <20010122182716.24647.qmail@web1604.mail.yahoo.com>

hello again
   wow, i've been posting kinda frequently recently. 
Anyway, another boring Journalism class lead to me
trying to transcribe another obscure B+S song.  Again,
it's not 100% correct so if anyone has any suggestions
feel free to e-mail me.

"London Has Let Me Down"

London has let me down, I'm kinda bored with this town
But the only thing keeping me here till the spring is
promise ??? For joy and a certain person.

I did the stupid thing, bought on a stupid dream.  One
of the many crimes happened to me in my time, now I'm
lost and alone, and I'm trying to find my way home.

One to the strain of the true matters in your mind,
London belongs to me.  baby not this time.  
  
    --- I can't make out what he's saying after this
part because the keyboard is just too loud-------

London has let me down again. Repeat 4x


  bye, --- andrew


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From sophiesea at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 18:14:52 2001
From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie *)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:14:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: the blue twees
Message-ID: <LAW2-F253LI9mK6PYzD0000495c@hotmail.com>

*
darlinks!

massages are *lovely* aren't they? a chappie called me up at verk the other 
day and asked if he could come in and give us all massages - in the 
verkplace, like. well, he's on a japanese acupressure course or somesuch, 
and needs guinea pigs (don't we all?), so he came in today, with his special 
japanese chair, and mmmmmmm... it was quite wonderful. the only thing that 
spoiled it was the gentle pinging sound of someone's excel switching on and 
off next door. but inner peace at work rocks :)

well! i was tweaked into sini-action by two things. firstly, mr brian 
cello-phane pondered that judy bit:
>So....is it part of of Judy... at
all? Is it a Songs for Children-type interlude bit? I am inclined to
think it is. I like it a lot.'
mmm, i like it a lot too. but! here's a thing - on friday, i stumbled (well, 
as far as you can stumble without actually falling over) across a rather old 
select (sigh) - with a rather big b&s feee-cha, written just before bowlie - 
and it seems that a little debate of the time was whether or not b&s would 
'sell-out' (gaah!) by making 3-track eps, rather than 4-trackers in order to 
be eligible (or illegible) for the chart - *so*!!! legal man would be a 
rather gleeful two fingers (certainly not one finger, so vulgar) to le 
chart, maybe? 'cause it's a 3-tracker, but it's *reeeally* 4 tracks, ne 
c'est pas?!
perhaps that didn't make any sense.

anyhoo.

my other thing was that i was in camden on sunday, on a decent flare hunt. 
it seems to me that the only flares you can get these days are those 
*massssive* ones that are like cullott-y flares. and you see kids in 
slipknot hoodies wandering round with their flares trailing in puddles. and 
anyway. i wanted some proper ones, so i went to camden market. it was 
drizzling so earnestly, it was like it was trying to define the word, and 
then when i got to the station my train was cancelled. but it was okay 
'cause i had 'sanctuary' by william faulkner with me, so i read it on the 
bus. then i listened to 'do you love me?' by nick cave, and everything 
seemed to make sense. *anyway*, got to camden, and found only dreadful 
trousers, but then wandered into a vintagey clothes shop, and they were 
playing the *whole* of tbwtas!! i could *feel* grin spread across my face. i 
lingered far too long (till they cut off chickfactor grrrrr) and pretended 
to look at clothes. it was nice.

that's all

love, and chrissmouse cake (we've *still* got some left :))
xsoph
*
*today i love the zephyrs*
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From jasonandreas at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 19:08:41 2001
From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:08:41 -0000
Subject: Sinister: What about me? What about Jason?
Message-ID: <003701c084a6$bcc8fce0$784f01d5@oemcomputer>

5....

4....

3....

2....

1....

*KABOOM*

Y2Jase has returned to the Sinister Mailing List in a blaze of pyrotechnic
wizardry and cheap-ass gimmicks. Well, expensive-ass gimmicks as far as my
new PC is concerned....

So how are we all doing this evening? Interesting things abounding? Good.
Good.

I've been gone too long, I feel, so I'll probably be a wee while in catching
up with everyone's business again. I have, every so often, checked in on the
archives, and I see Jen Owl's still kicking serious ass. She'll be
Intercontinental Champion in no time, and maybe even number one contender
one day :)

Sorry - I've developed a complete obsession for wrestling over the last year
and it's now beginning to seep out of every pore. It totally reeks of
awesomeness.

I was checking out the alt.music.belle+sebastian newsgroup and some poor,
deluded soul asked whether B&S were committed to any tour dates this year.
Oh, we can only hope.

Homer Simpson quote: "Mmmmmm, Sinister...."

I've, in general, become quite a happy chap in life. I have a job, a girl
and a vague semblance of a life. Which is nice.

Only downside is my gran's cancer, but we sort of expected it really, so I
suppose it didn't hit me quite as hard as it could have done. I'm being the
archtypical supportive son at the moment for my mum, who's really been
affected badly by it all. My gran was her life in a way and when she's gone,
my mum won't have anything to do with herself. Has anyone been through this
before? Any advice on how to deal with it? Mail me offlist if you do - I'd
appreciate it.

Big shout out to Amy Jackson - don't let L get you down - you're sooooo much
bigger than she could ever hope to be. And of course, she's PPMS Girl.
(private joke - sorry).

Looking forward to seeing King Adora on Saturday, and hopefully Soulwax next
month (for the 5th time!), which should be almost as grate as the Raven
Effect.

*Jason jumps onto the top turnbuckle and smells the atmosphere...*

I have a mouse with a scrolly wheel. It's really cool.

G'bye now.

- Jase x






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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 20:33:28 2001
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:33:28 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Bridges thronging with these **riven** souls ... I had not thought death had undone so many
Message-ID: <000401c084b2$997990e0$dacd01d5@default>

Hi All,

Subjects are hard to pick, aren't they? This one could just as easily have
been called "Elvis is Mrs Slocum's pussy"


Ease Your Feet In The Sea must be the most muzak-friendly Belle and
Sebastian song, as today I heard it in Argos as I was hovering around my
collection point.


As per "Dusty" Miller's instructions I checked out Looper's site now its
been hijacked by "Peacock" Johnson. Firstly at work (left hurriedly - 4
letter word count too high) later at home. Book sounds interesting, pictures
astonishing. Wee Yoko looks quite fanciable in her red wig, but I don't know
who will go for John Winston David as Begbie (that's Francis, not the
formerly fragrant Rodddd) in a Hawaiiian shirt. What do you reckon,
Genevieve?


"Carsmile" Steve wrote of soundalikes & said: "unless someone out there has
done it already." And of course Mr Dastoor already had. See

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199906/msg00453.html

on what was quite a good Sinister day. Mr Hewitt himself was even
name-dropped by Tim Hopkins.


If Belle and Sebastian are recording a film soundtrack I guess I'll have to
drag my arse into a cinema soon. And talk of a single, too. Brilliant news.
Can we have that released soon, too, please?


Love,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From kitsapcd at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 20:57:06 2001
From: kitsapcd at xxx.com (Disc Go Round Bremerton)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:57:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: A recent nursery parolee comes out of the shadows...
Message-ID: <20010122205706.15770.qmail@web6301.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Sinister Kids!
  I was notified last week that I had done my time in
the nursery, and since today is my 28th birthday (does
this make me one of the old folks here?), I'm at work,
I'm bored, & the sun is out, I've decided to introduce
myself.  The sun being out in January has distracted
me to the point of only being able to think in
fragments, so hopefully these few fragments will give
you a glimpse into my dark, dark soul.

  *I live in the Seattle area, and I know exactly
two-and-a-half other B & S fans.
  *I do not have a "twee" personality at all, and I
cannot explain or defend my L-O-V-E (that's right, all
caps) of Belle & Sebastian, but I really, really do.
  *I did not vote for George W. Bush.
  *I am obsessed with Jim Reid (formerly of the Jesus
& Mary Chain, currently of Freeheat).
  *In my travels, I have concluded that Edinburgh has
the most hunky boys per square mile than anywhere else
I've been, and I'm including the greater Los Angeles
area & London in that statement.  You Scottish gals
are lucky, lucky lasses!
  *Strange B & S moment #1: this last summer, two days
after "Fold Your Hands..." came out, I found myself in
the emergency room.  As I was laying in the hospital
bed waiting for a doctor I had "The Wrong Girl" on a
continous loop in my head.  Strangely, this experience
did not sully this song for me, and it still makes me
smile.
  *Strange B & S moment #2:  I tried to act out
"Seeing Other People"  a few months ago.  Actually, he
was seeing someone else, and I had just been dumped by
his roomate (yikes!).  Half a bottle of Jameson
whiskey later, and all bets were off.  My advice: do
not try this at home.
  *Quote about the first Looper album that I liked so
much that I cut it out & put it in the jewel case: 
"The only Scottish bands that should be saved from
fire are Prolapse and the Jesus & Mary Chain.  Jim
Reid never wrote songs about his sheep escaping &
having to chase it over the glen.  Sing about guns and
coke machines and girls in black leather, ya wee
gadge!"  By the way, I really like the Looper album.
  That's enough.  As I get to know everyone better my
posts will be more meaningful.  As I said, it's sunny
here in Seattle, and that makes it difficult to think
straight.  I'm sure you cats in the UK can sympathise.

XOXOXO,
Jen


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From lgluhani at xxx.edu  Mon Jan 22 21:01:01 2001
From: lgluhani at xxx.edu (glu)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:01:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Happiness is...
In-Reply-To: <3A6C664D.B5AEEC83@ruskin.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101221550510.13199-100000@qbert.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

<sigh>
When I went downstairs this morning, on my way to an 8:30 marketing class
(ew!) what greeted me, but chocolate chip muffins!  Still warm &
melty!  Thus far, I have consumed 3, with more to come in the future, for
certain.
That *almost* made up for the fact that I was kicked off napster last
night by Jeff Buckley's mother.  =(  Why, why, why!?!  SO sad.  Now I can
no longer search out new music & find those gems of live recordings.  The
upsetting part is that most artists whose MP3s I possess, I also have
purchased their released material.  Not fair i tell you!!!  I feel very
betrayed by the Buckley estate - as it is something I could expect from
metallica :( 
So if anyone knows of another file sharing program that is as reliable as
napster & not as frightening as freenet..let me know!  I had only started
a b&s collection of live MP3s..and don't worry, I don't record them or
sell them or anything - just take up memory on my comp!
laura

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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Mon Jan 22 21:23:08 2001
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:23:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: my brain needs some assistance
Message-ID: <F17489QtpfTYSl1q4gt0000004b@hotmail.com>

sinister

yo yo yo

how r we all??
i am fine fine
but very rather bored bored
however
despite my boredom
im in an awfully good mood

i was at the offspring gig wednesday past
twas pretty goddamn brilliant!!
(i have rated it as my 2nd best gig- the best being muse)
they played all my favourites (although i missed intermission which i was a
bit annoyed about)
so i was well happy :)
and i crowd surfed for the first time ever :)
twas an...interesting experience

i think i may be suffering from a small bout of insomnia
coz recently i have been getting not very much sleep
this has however
led to me having a complete excess of spare time
so ive been making use of this extra spare time

i have started my own (fictional) band
named them
named the first album
wrote the tracklist for the first album
and designed the front cover of the first album

last night, well 3.30am ish this morning- i recorded myself a new voice
message for my phone
(the phone used to be my b/f's and his msg was about wanting to kill you
so...)
i wanted a b&s one  but couldnbt find anything suitable
so i recorded a divine comedy one instead
its pretty hard to do actually
coz the phone interferes it sounds all fuzzy
i got it sounding ok though
its a snippet of europop live at bowlie
"so, what is there left to know?
what is there left to say?
FUCK ALL!"
*ah neil....*

i have also decided that
(i have no idea what made me start thinking about this)
east 17 were definately the hardest boy band
they were well harder than 5ive are
they could beat the crap out of 5ive

thats all
your friend always
sweetie
xox

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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 05:59:39 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:59:39 -0800
Subject: Sinister: nitpicking, advertising, scrounging and vomiting
Message-ID: <003501c08503$21eab580$9f1e073e@aqlzosqt>


so b&s have recorded 'pop songs'.  in inverted commas.  and here we all were
thinking that they manufactured frozen chickens. tch.

and i wouldn't describe the springfields as dusty springfield's backing
band.

i was in a very nice pub on saturday, called the great eastern, which i
don't think is a delgados reference.  they played tbwtas though, which was
fun.  *i* don't even play tbwtas any more.

i have also found the coolest shop, devoted to all things francais.  lots of
lovely musique, livres, babar, boules, and Best Of All extravagant amounts
of petit prince merchandise.  i covet their cute lunchboxes but can only
afford the pencils... (no sexual subtext intended - this is the little
prince we're talking about, people.)

all the submissions i've had to buzzwords this year have been from people
called greg.  really.  i've never even met *one* person called greg before.
anyway, thanks to greg and greg.  for top extra-sinister literary action
there's still only one place to be.....

would some nice person like to send me a tape/cd of 'the friends of rachel
worth' because i *still* can't afford to buy it (given that my local record
shops, or thieving bastards as i prefer to call them, think £16 an
acceptable price) and my boyfriend's stereo is out of commission so i can't
scrounge tapes off him like i usually do.  i ask this in the knowledge that
there are at least 4 go-betweens evangelists out there who won't see this as
flagrant blagging but as an exciting opportunity to spread the (ageing) word
of forster and maclennan.  fools...

umm... i can't ride on city buses for a hobby any more, as i've started to
get dramatically travel sick on anything which doesn't go on rails, a
phenomenon last seen on family holidays to cornwall (8 hours in a mini, 7 of
which were spent vomiting).  i fear this is all part of the general
regression initiated by bagpuss all those months ago...

since i can't travel any more, we're going to have to have a brighton
meet-up.  i've been meaning to organise this for a while - anyone interested
enough please mail me.

well, must go, job applications to avoid, washing up to leave for someone
else, you know how it is...

archel xxx

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From marsc at xxx.br  Tue Jan 23 02:30:31 2001
From: marsc at xxx.br (marsc at xxx.br)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 02:30:31 +0000
Subject: Sinister: sinister.first step and Astrid (the band)
Message-ID: <0000080B.49868@vxTarget>

FIRST STEP
well,finally i send my first mail from the list,after receive
automatic message from the owner to give my voice.
I sending this letter from the hinterlands of S�o Paulo,
Brazil (very hot place),i be probably the oldest member
of this list (31 year old) and my writing/reading in English
language it's not too much good, i know only the basic,but
this list is amazing, and i love interesting people and 
Indiepop music.

ASTRID (THE BAND)
other day i see one clip by this very cool band and search
any information about the band on web, i not find anything
somebody help me ??
The band have any relation with Belle and Sebastian ??

Sorry  for the poor language and thanks all

marsc
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From pedrigui at xxx.br  Tue Jan 23 03:00:46 2001
From: pedrigui at xxx.br (Pedro Itapema)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:00:46 -0200
Subject: Sinister: Bootleg/Live Belle and Sebastian
Message-ID: <000e01c084e8$b1709b40$c826bfc8@pedroita>

Hello everyone;

        What about making a list with all known Belle and Sebastian
Bootlegs/Live CDs? I know about the famous Black Sessions and heard
something about a "BBC Sessions".

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From mod4real at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 07:30:23 2001
From: mod4real at xxx.com (Chan Toby)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:30:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: soundalikes and indiekid abuse
Message-ID: <20010123073023.38049.qmail@web9203.mail.yahoo.com>

Sinimate

A girl called "J"  (not Jay, nor Jade, just J)
who is also a b n s fan ask me to check a 
song called "Summerwine" by Lee Hazalwood and 
Nincy Sinistra and Dogs On Wheels sounds like it..

BTW, I listen lots of Eminem, Wu Tang and Dr Dre
now.... I dun think Eminem is good music, but just
..... Interesting.

And there is a boy called La Bow Vow or somethings...
boy... less than ten-year-old i guess, and 
his tune featuring Snopp D O Double G!!!!

Happy Chinese New Year~
Toby C 


> > The State that I am in - I want you -
> Bobby Dylan
> Slow Graffitti - Laughing Gnome - Dame
> David Bowie
> Mary Jo - Winters Tale - Gypsy King
> David Essex
> LLPJ - Some obscure soul record Calumn
> once played me
> String Bean Jean - The Kids Are Not
> Alright - The Offspring (although the
> influence was the other way round on
> that one)
> 
> I'm sure there are more that have been
> mentioned over the many moons of the
> list, but those are the ones that spring
> immediately to mind.
> 


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From carle at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 07:59:32 2001
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 02:59:32 -0500
Subject: Sinister: what's wrong with this picture?
Message-ID: <3A6D39C0.757BFD0@rcn.com>

check it out. in the tower records publication, "pulse," they have their
top ten picks of the year by category--and i don't know whether this is
massed opinions of readership or writer's poll--and guess what's number
6 on their COUNTRY list? 

BELLE & SEBASTIAN FYHCYWLAP!


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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Jan 23 09:17:44 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:17:44 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Guilty foe
Message-ID: <200101230913.JAA06787@missprint.org>

Hello,

I have just finished with all of my exams, which went quite well especially 
since I have been so lazy this year.  I really wanted to drink myself stupid 
yesterday but none of my friends fancied the idea (guess they have grown 
up), so I didn't.

Just sitting in my room now, having thoughts, about many things, to try 
and make up for the lack of thinking for the last 20 years.  Revelling and 
mourning at memories: things done, chances missed, things I loved, girls 
I didn't kiss, etc.

Admitted more sad thoughts than happy ones, especially thinking how I 
may have hurt people without knowing and feeling guilty about it, how 
I have let people down time and again, how I tried to be nice but fails 
and make things worse.  Not very nice thoughts, but it had to be done 
I suppose.

A nicer thought was around this time last year (1st Jan 2000 in fact), 
I remember it was the first time I listened to a lot of the B&S stuff.  

After New Years Eve, we stayed around my friend's brother's house cos he 
was away on holiday.  I was hungover and I woke up before my friend did, 
on my own and bored a bit like now and just decided to start listening to 
all my friend's brother's B&S collection.  It was great.

I was just thinking as well really how one year can change you.. now I 
probably cannot live a day without listening to some B&S.  Some things 
in life never change, tho, but I won't talk about those cos those are 
boring and unhappy most of the time, apart from the fact that today, 
when I'm, a little ironically not hungover, B&S are still great.

Pretty thoughts and Red Bulls
Ken
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Tue Jan 23 09:20:56 2001
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:20:56 +1300
Subject: Sinister: of cabbages and kings
Message-ID: <009a01c0851e$702a3020$6a6137d2@computer>

Stuart David losing the plot.

Yes.

I agree. I think he is , perhaps, trying a little too hard to over
compensate for being in Belle & Sebastian. It's my suspicion that the this
new-found hardness comes from a dislike of the twee indie fraternity and an
attempt to distance himself from the label of "ex-Belle & Sebastian bass
player". Still, I'll probably buy his new book ... I though "Nalda Said" was
brilliant.

**HONEY-CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE**
Honey, you are the guardian of goodness in a net-world of evil. I assumed
that the Nick Drake spam was from a listee. The site is quite nice, but I
just really object to people using the list to fob off stuff. Cause lets
face it, the shirts he's selling on the site are

a) probably not authorised by Nick Drake's estate, and
b) probably iron-on transfers put onto shirts, which you could probably do
yourself.

I'm sure no one would have really minded if there was a link the site in the
signature live of the listee's posts. But ..... well, etiqiete, people.
C'mon .....

**AND SPEAKING OF SPAM!!!!**
if that bloody lowfly guy e-mails me ONE MORE TIME I swear I will fly all
the way to Portugal and kick his ass. Spam is one thing ... huge graphic
attachments on my slow dial up connection are another thing all together.

**ADONIS** (or lack thereof)
I have joined a gym. Basically because I am sick of sweating when I eat or
walk up hills. We're not *quite* at Homer Simpson levels of fitness yet, but
sitting in front of a computer for the last two years hasn't been good for
my physique.

**MARRIGE**
Vanessa and I started our "pre marrige education" course tonight. We're both
Roman Catholics and are getting married in a Catholic church, hence having
to fill out this STUPID questionaire and do this dumb course. If I had my
way we'd be getting married in Las Vegas ("The Happiest Place on Earth") One
of the questions in the survey I had to fill out was whether I had ever felt
or had an homosexual urges/tendancies. Umm ... well, I *have* worn a feather
boa in public, and had an *extremely* unhealthy obsession with Morrissey in
my late teens, and Vanessa thinks I *dress gay* (her words, not mine.) But I
answered "no" to avoid confusion.

**STARSAILOR**
Hearing good things. Anyone seen them live? Any comments? I've pre-ordered
their debut single. Hope they're not all just hype.

Speaking of hype, I managed to see Coldplay at a private gig here in
Auckland last week. They were really good .... much looser and more laid
back live than on record.  It was very exclusive, but I managed to find out
the *secret address* andhuing around outside, and they let me in.  They
played pretty much all of "Parachutes" plus two new songs and covers of "You
Only Live Twice" and "What the World Needs Now Is Love". Bravo .....

Well, to bed, to sleep, perchance to ....

Lawrence Mikkelsen
(Guardian of Sinist*r Honour, South Pacific Chapter)


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From silmaril at xxx.gr  Tue Jan 23 11:07:25 2001
From: silmaril at xxx.gr (Joan of Dark)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:07:25 +0200
Subject: Sinister: She lay in bed all night,watching the colours change from green to gold
Message-ID: <3A6D65ED.AD6A385D@stargate.gr>

Johnny turned 16....

And we are just walking around in circles until  tears fill our eyes and
our vision gets blurred.

Until you can't make out your way home. And it's dark. And its cold.

Everything seems surreal if you look closely. If you stop thinking about
yourself and look closely. And see the details. And the combinations
which you cant grasp. The things that can make the grinds of your mind
creak dangerously. Most frighteningly. And then you desperately want to
know why you won't ever again be able to live this moment. Never again.
tick
tack
tick
tack....
...moment to moment  The End  comes closer.

Then " Le Pastie " comes on the radio when you're cleaning tables..."
you drop the tray and go berserk".....
and then you come to  l  i  v  e  Belle and Sebastian. Or is it that
Belle and Sebastian have become a way of living perhaps?

Cos I work as a waitress. Sort of . Such a Belle and Sebastian-ish job.
It's this thought that gets me though. When I haven't even finished
studying for my Uni exams that start tomorrow....I could be -your-
waitress. Sort of . But I wouldn't really want to be the waitress of any
of the 1400 of you. Cos I wouldn't want to hate any of you. As I hate
the eyes of people. Scanning my body and sneaking in the creases and
openings of my clothes. Their mouths that don't tell me that my shirt
has been unbuttoned as I pick the broken glass from the floor. By that
time " Le Pastie " is gone.....and all that's left to me is " La
Bourgeoisie".

Belle and Sebastian? I have a strange tendency to write their full name.
I only own 2 of their albums and 3 ep's (The salary of a waitress is not
that high you know.Or you may not know as well ) Although I might not
listen to them that much ,or not at all lately....But I love them more
than anything. Well...not -them- I can't even tell who is who , apart
from Isobell and Sarah, if I saw them in a picture .

But, as I am trying to save something of the simplicity of my long lost
childhood, the precious  moments of utter happiness in the sight of a
butterfly flying against the sun or a single candy; I can find fragments
of my bruised, numb self, or a faint dream of an innocence I don't even
remember losing  playing hide and seek  in-between lyrics that are a wee
bit dissonant near the end and scattered notes of melodies swept by the
breeze, words whispered under one's breath.

My fingers are cold. And my heart hurts in my chest sometimes. Like it's
torn apart. And it opens up in two. And I hit my chest with my fist. So
that the hit will get deeply in. And then the pain might go.For a while.

Johnny turned 16.

Who is going to make  h  i  s  pain go??

And I am 19 and can only cheat my pain  for a little while. But above
all, myself.

Life, but how to live it?


xxx
joanna


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"but youth is only being in a way like it might be an animal. no, it is
not just like being an animal so much as being like one of those malenky
toys you viddy being sold in the streets, like little chello-vecks made
out of tin and with a spring inside and then a winding handle on the
outside and you wind it up grrr grrr grrr and off it itties , like
walking, O my brothers. But it itties in a straight line and bangs
straight into things bang bang and it cannot help what it is doing.
Being young is like being one of these malenky machines..."

"A Clockwork Orange"

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From Photojenni27 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 12:36:10 2001
From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:36:10 EST
Subject: Sinister: Drowning in sweet seas of academia....
Message-ID: <b8.10de0180.279ed4ba@aol.com>

Hello again....
Let's set the scene, it's a muggy, rainy, grey Tuesday in the college and all I can hear is "This is a silent area!" repeated and screamed over and over again like a mantra indented into my brain. My pigtails are falling out and I keep having to make sure that all my precious possessions like my sweeties and my mobile phone *evil thing that it is* don't fall out of my coat pocket.
Cay is bored and lonely, and fed up with having to eke out an education and work as a lowly waitress to achieve her dreams. She dreams of the day when she'll be the glitterati who everyone wants to read and see and be.
The exams are officially over and I've been getting my results back, but I have no one to celebrate the fact with. All the people I know in Manchester are just acquaintances who I'm too scared to phone. My two best friends are at art college and University in London and my wee boy lives in Leeds. College is nice, but you're surrounded by new *Rawkers* here who don't want to slip into this sweet little world. 
This is getting far too self-indulgent now, so I'll stop and get onto proper things...
The new version of AOL (6.0) I installed on my computer seems to like chewing up and spitting out the posts I've been sending to Sinister recently, so I'm having to post them from the net based version of AOL (2.0) Whilst Honey is a very nice list mummy, she doesn't seem to have had any experience with the evils of AOL and so doesn't know how to turn the control off that will give me passage to this world. Hence, this is a cry for help. Does anyone else use this program and now how to turn off the switch that turns my posts into html based spagetti?
As for those evil Nick Drake posts, the weird thing is I've been getting them too, but this was even before I was let out of the nursery which was about a month ago. Hence, I have a feeling that this creep is looking for peeps on Yahoo clubs too who have a liking for Nick Drake. Hopefully the estate will find out and stop it before it gets crazily out of hand. When reading the posts the other night somebody said that she'd been thrown off Napster by Jeff Buckley's mother. How? Why? I've been downloading Jeff Buckley stuff and this hasn't hapenned to me. Sounds a bit too scary for my liking considering that she's selling away her son's life to the highest bidder.
B&S are doing the soundtrack to a film...*yey!* I like the sound of that so long as the film is a good one. I'm sure I've seen a Hal Hartley film but I'm not sure which one. I still have to read Stuart David's novel (I didn't even know that he'd written one!) Looks like it's off to the bookshop with me now once I've gotten some money.
*Starsailor* are utterly lovely from the two songs I've heard so far. They may get bogged down and tarnished but for now they shine like North-Western stars and I desperately need to get their song "Love is here," either by fair means or foul. Hopefully I'm going to see them this weekend with those lovely scallywags Alfie and run away before JJ72 (NOOOO!!)But I'm torn between this and a cocktail party in Leeds where I can all dressed up and drunk for free. *Decisions, Decisions*

Well, that's my ramblings over and done with for now I think. Apologies for the self-indulgence at the beginning!

Love, Lollipops and History exams....
Cay
xXx 

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 12:47:18 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:47:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: I need to know!
Message-ID: <20010123124718.7732.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com>

So you need to tell me! When is Burns night? I forgot!
I went to buy a diary yesterday and ended up at the
pub by mistake. 
Um. Yeah, not doing well at uni. Need words of
encouragement there please. Any words. Random useful
words. Ideally constructed into sentences. Bit unhappy
about the whole thing, looks like I'm going to belly
flop it.
And what should I do as a brilliant career? Decided
that all those sort of arty whims in me that come out
every so often (result: me buying loads of mad things)
want to work for me. Where do I start? Anything fun.
Any ideas? My careers advisor yesterday just looked at
me, his watch and whinged about his indigestion. I got
this booklet, see, and it said "What to do if you
don't have a clue" and I thought, aha! thats me! I am
clueless! And it said 2go and speak to a careers
advisor! So I did! And what a useless old f*rt he was
too! Pah! So, heres the outline:

Have to work in Scotland (due to homesickness, I miss
Scotland sooo badly. Plus, Scotland is more fun)
Have to earn good money. �19k+
Have not got to sit behind a desk all day. Get to go
out and about and do stuff.
Have to use my imagination.
Have to sound cool when I tell people what I do for a
living. (naturally).
And thats it. Any careers advisor wannabes out there?

Okay, awaiting your help.

Idles


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From neil_milton at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 13:48:45 2001
From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:48:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: I hung out, with all my insect friends...
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Hi guys,

its been a long time since my last post...
since Jason left us infact, and now he's back...
welcome young man...

so... 

I happened along to the old fruitmarket on Saturday
night, y'know, as you do...

well, it was quite crafty y'see,  I decided that I'd
go to see the delgados, and then had to decide who I
should go with...

The girfriend, y'might think...

yep... that was a good idea...  I managed to keep it
from her right up until we got inside the venue...
boy, did she get a surprise...  Superb... lots of
brownie points scored!

anyway, the gig was superb.  Arab Strap played in
support, and damn they were good...  Aidan's first
words of the night were 'this was a mistake.' 
Thankfully, it was not.

The delgados came on to a loud cheer, and proceeded to
prove why they are so special to me and so many
others.

alun dropped his guitar during 'make your move' and
Paul fucked up the beat for 'The past that suits you
best' but you still looked upon the band as if they
were the most important thing that your eyes will ever
come across.

Funniest bit of the night, has to have been the
football chat...

Stewart - "Le Tissier for the 'well"
Emma - "Queens Park.  You have to come... theres only
six hundred of us there every saturday"
Alun - "Football is pish.  All footballers are dicks!"

Anyway, tonight, is my own band's gig.  At the 13th
Note cafe (8:30PM admission free if anyone is
interested) and its our first... a wee bit anxious but
I wouldn't say nervous... yet!
You may or may not have heard of us... we are called
Troika, and we are rather influenced by Idlewild, the
Gang of Four, and (ever so slightly) by Mogwai and
slint.
We are also playing in Strawberry fields on the 9th
February, then On Air East in dundee on the 23rd Feb.
then again on the 15th March at the 13th note cafe (as
part of Single Point of Light's residency)

anyway, apart from all that...

I'm looking forward to Wednesday night at Sleazy's...
Dave Pajo from Slint, and Stuart Mogwai playing
acoustic... POST ROCK HEAVEN!  I'll be there, are any
of you guys going?

S.D.'s new book...

can some one give me some info on it, as I don't have
it yet and feel I'm missing out on something...

Anyway, I gotta go just now but...

Jason... c you tonight
amy... ditto
jenOwl... if you could come along it'd be nice to c
you.

cyall soon,

neil troika

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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 23 13:49:54 2001
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:54 BST
Subject: Sinister: itv were using the auteurs 'lenny valentino' behind a trailer fo
Message-ID: <4544B1C04CB@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

hey there campers,
ooh, i'm almost beginning to feel like a lurker, but i promised 
myself i wouldn't post until i'd cleared out the back log of 
sinifilth from my inbox, but i've given up with about 70 to go.

its these exams you see, they make me feel guilty if i even so much 
as look at a computer because i know i'll spend hours on the internet 
instead of struggling over complex calculus and the like. i really 
meant to take them seriously this time, but here i am again sending 
emails and designing flyers when i have two exams tomorrow and i 
think i've already done badly enough so that i'm going to be thrown 
off the honours course.
*sigh* i'll never have hons after my name.

i have a suspision that none of you really want to know about that, 
so instead i'll tell you about the problem i'm having in my house. at 
the beginnign of the uni year i moved in with to a house with five of 
my mates, now they're all really lovely, but one way or another, over 
the past four months i've managed to alienate myself from them. its a 
culmination of things really; i spend a lot of time with my 
boyfriend, out of all of them i don't have anyone that i'm really 
really close to, we don't have a living room where we all hang out 
(we have a room but there's no tv in it so no-one uses it), i don't 
really feel comfortable with the idea of just popping into other 
people's rooms for a chat when i don't know if i'm welcome, and to 
top it all off, they all do courses which don't involve as much work 
as mine so i spend a lot more time hiding in my room on my own.

(oh no i hate long paragraphs)

so now, my only contact with my housemates is a civil hello if i pass 
them on the stairs or in the kitchen. they don't even invite me to 
the pub anymore. this is probably the most stupid problem anyone has 
ever had, and almost entirely self-inlicted, but its really starting 
to upset me, and i don't know what to do.

it makes me feel very lonely.

on a lighter note, today i'm wearing really dark lipstick. i don't 
usually paint my mouth during the day, but i was feeling in a n adam 
ant mood this morning and decided to go for it. the only problem now 
is that i'm sat in a room with no mirrors and i'm convinced that its 
smudged and bleeding all over my face, and every time someone looks 
at me, i think thats the reason. actually this would be the perfect 
opportunity to approach total strangers in a "does my bum look big in 
this?" fashion, but i probably won't. shyness will overtake me once 
again.

 now this isn't gratuitous content, its something i genuinely heard, 
does anyone else know about the rumour that chris geddes is dj at a 
bar round the corner from my house in manchester on my birthday? its 
coincidental that the date i was told was my birthday, but it made me 
feel special nonetheless.

  ok then kids, i think i've bored you enough for now (and i used to 
write such good posts)

       wishing you love and irn-bru,
                           (and for those of you who don't know, i 
started that before ken and his red bull)
                                              fiona.

help me!!! i can't stop listening to 'one and only' by chesney hawkes
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From tigermilker at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 18:48:48 2001
From: tigermilker at xxx.com (mark waudby)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:48:48 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Smut !!
Message-ID: <F270ogkJXrRjbDt3Hvo000034ff@hotmail.com>

I was sitting around the house over the festive period and, with nothing 
much else to do, found myself making up dirty Belle & Sebastian song names 
and had a merry old chuckle to myself. Then I thought 'Hey! Wouldn't all the 
people on Sinister love to know the product of my shallow little mind? Of 
course they would'. And here we are.

Please think of your own and we can have a compendium of dirtiness.

So, to kick off:


Don't Leave Your Tights On Baby;

Swing Your Cock Around;

Seeing Other Peoples Bits;

The Position I Am In;

If You're Feeling Ministers;

and, of course,

Oh Come, Oh Come Emmanuel



Please don't kick me off the list, Honey, God told me to do it.

Ok, He didn't.

Sorry.

mark
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 20:45:18 2001
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa)
Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:45:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: i miss london.  but york's ok.
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From room_30 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 22:12:04 2001
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:12:04 -0000
Subject: Sinister: gonna see the river man, gonna tell him all i can, about the plan
Message-ID: <F120neqdGSyMp69YDqS00000346@hotmail.com>

after all the talk of baxendale a few weeks back i happened on an ep called 
'new distractions ep vol. 1' on lowsley sound recordings with, as the lead 
track baxendale's'the future' which has modem sounds on it*.  is this song 
reprasentative of their style as it's the only baxendale song i've heard.  
the other tracks are'tonka toy' by the teenbeat, 'we're gonna rock paris' by 
ricky spontane and 'urina' by abbey grange.  if anybody has any info on 
these other bands i'd apreciate it.  the record's on the thickest vinyll ive 
ever seen, it's absolutely massive, it weighs the same as a 12" but it's 
only a 7!

listening to john martyn's solid air, cool song.  written about nick drake 
i'm told

----------------------------------------------------------------------

*TO SOPH* who was talking about flares.

the best flares i know of are made by a company called pop jeans, the only 
places i've seen them are in newcastle and leeds but i'm sure they'll be 
available in london village somewhere. probably behind the village hall, 
just off trufflegar square

[expertly stuck together with the finest DJ glue]

----------------------------------------------------------------------

has anybody ever tasted terrific turtles?  those green n' yellow sweets you 
used to get that i was addicted to wgen i was 7, you remember?  well anyway 
i found them in a shop and proceeded to buy a wholebox for three quid and 
have eaten half of them and am feeling a bit sick but am being forced to eat 
more by some weird part of my brain that dosn't realise that i'll actually 
vomit if i eat any more...   no...   stop it...   aaaargh, my hands are 
forcing the sickly sweet gorgeous rubbery little amphibians down my throat 
by the handfull...   noooooo.

ok, gotta stop now
love n' hugs from the happy world of haribo
pez*


*looper's album 'the geometrid' was playing in the shop when i bought the 
record with baxendale on, what's more 'modem song' was definately playing 
when i payed for the record, wich is a major coincedence, don't you think
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From R.Cottyn at xxx.com  Tue Jan 23 22:39:33 2001
From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:39:33 -0000
Subject: Sinister: wow! hi there sinistereens!
References: <20010123204518.21809.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net>
Message-ID: <00ec01c0858d$630181e0$90057ad5@default>

its nice to know that there is someone else on sinister who likes the manics
as well as the mighty b&s-feather boa obviously has good taste in music!

anyway...this is my first post so naturally u will want to know a little
about me. i'll give u the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
(some of it anyway).

i'm 16 (does this make me one of the younger b&S fans?) and i fell in love
with belle and sebastian after buying iyfs a few months ago after advice
from a friend. it is now my fave album (with the manics everything must go
just behind ;) ) and so of course i've bought all their other stuff  now.

i'm doing a-levels at 6th form at the mo (english, theatre studies, maths,
computing and general studies) and i'm considering going to stage school
afterwards coz it sounds fun!

anyway..that'll do for now! u may see me on #sinister with the nick
'luckypunk'.

PS any other sinistreens from sheffield here?!

PPS does anyone know of any b&s t-shirts and where i can get them from and
how much etc. plz mail me at r.cottyn at btinternet.com if u do! id be very
grateful!

ciao for now!

Richard

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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 23 23:10:35 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:10:35 +0000
Subject: Sinister: some one who else  liked wrestling
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Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100a9a4a13b9aca00238b16d9.a9a4e5@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

well i kinda guess it's time to come out of the nuresery or the nest as i like to think of it. 

i've been reading this for a while and have been wondering how or even if i should introduce myself
but after an email i read today from some one who else  liked wrestling and b&S i thought what the
hell, further inspiration came from someone in sheffield, where i live so i thought the time is
right and here i am.

i have to tell you its not an anti climax this writing for the first time, its every bit as full
filling as i imagined.

1. i cant spell and have no understanding of grammer at all (me wonders how i got into uni at all)

2. which leads me onto point 2 i am skeggy 2nd year student at hallam uni.

3. i work at safeways

4. i like to dance

5. i like the snow

6. i don't really like FYHCYWLAP

7. i think Stuart David wants to be andy warhol.


so there we go.

Today it rained which isn't unsual for sheffield but what was unuausal was that two of my lecturers
took me for a drink. i cant explain.

i'm sorry i thought this would be really inspirational opening letter but it's not sorry. and i
shall now go.

bye bye

Nigel 

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Post Scriptum:  Who's ya daddy ?
http://www.lundwood.u-net.com/bettysclinic.htm
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From cellophanesky at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 02:46:09 2001
From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:46:09 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Spread the Love
Message-ID: <a05010400b693e8ccdff5@[63.210.214.81]>

Hi Sinister,
	Well, I've done something for the obscure B&S collectors 
among you. Today I made some MP3s of some of the rarer stuff I have 
so that everyone can hear it. I don't have any good way of sharing it 
so I'm on Napster right now and my username is Mickmcmick. I've only 
got a 56k connection so please bear with me. Hopefully the tracks 
will spread somewhat virally.
	Here's what I encoded:

	"Tigermilk" Instrumental: Well I'm not 100% certain this is 
the elusive Tigermilk Instrumental, but it's an instrumental the band 
played in Barcelona, 1997, and it hasn't been released yet. So since 
the only instrumental we've heard mention of is the Tigermilk 
Instrumental I tentatively gave it that name. It's not the world's 
greatest song or anything, but it's interesting to hear it.

	Studio version of Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner: 
there are versions of this song circulating on Napster but they're 
just live cuts. This one was recorded in a studio and features 
Stevie's guitar very prominently. I put the word studio in the name 
of the MP3 so that you can distinguish between this one and the live 
versions.

	Rhoda: This one's also been making the rounds in MP3 form, 
but the MP3 circulating was only recorded at 96 kbps, this one is 
160. Also, the version circulating is very, very quiet. This one is a 
normal volume, although it has more tape hiss. Most importantly, the 
other version had the beginning of the song nicked off after the 
first line or so of lyrics. This one has the whole song. It's not a 
massive improvement but I figured while I was at it...

	Hurley's Having Dreams: This is one of the three Stuart 
Murdoch/Rhode Island demos, I think a lot of people have it on tape 
but I haven't seen it at all on Napster. So I encoded it.

	Pocketbook Angel / London Has Let Me Down Again: The other 
two demos. These are on Napster, but when I downloaded them from 
Napster I found them to be of horriffic quality with ungodly amounts 
of tape hiss. So I recorded my (marginally better) copies and 
filtered out a lot of the hiss. In fact I filtered tape hiss out of 
all of these and encoded them all at 160 kbps. So for the ones which 
are already on Napster just look for the 160 kbps versions.

	Well, I liked Sophie's theory about the mystery third Legal 
Man track. That makes a lot of sense. They did sort of the same thing 
with 3...6...9 didn't they? Oh and if anyone has a place to host 
these songs let me know, that would be much easier.

-- 
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From imnicolson at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 12:43:17 2001
From: imnicolson at xxx.com (Ian Nicolson)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:43:17 -0000
Subject: Sinister: And I used to be a citizen
Message-ID: <F26680pshGfs60XxsXf000041c7@hotmail.com>

Oh, goodness gracious. The computers at work (yeh, WORK. Or should that be 
W!O!R!K!? No. It shouldn't. But it's not a proper job - it's just a wee 
pretendy one that'll keep me going for a bit, before I leave in the summer 
and go back to sleep) aren't working very well just now, so I've strolled 
along to the big, evil corporate internet place during lunchtime so as not 
to let the Sinister posts pile up to 70-odd as I did recently. During the 
pre-job lost months I'd quite often while away a couple of hours here of an 
afternoon, before perhaps taking a wander up to the cinema to pretend to be 
dead clever and cultured and watch some arty movies (one of the highlights 
of the past six months was seeing 'Through a Glass Darkly' in the pictures 
Maybe not Bergman's best, but still...). Or meet friends in the pub. Or 
maybe even just wander the streets and parks of Edinburgh. And I would 
really, really love to do something like that right now. Working is pish. 
How could I have forgotten?

So anyways, Mike Hurst's producing the new single(s). This could be a good 
thing, I think. Some of the more upbeat songs on the last album  could 
really have done with a big 60s type production, but ended up sounding 
somewhat weedy. I first thought this while listening to 'Saturday's Child' 
by the Walker Brothers which, while it perhaps doesn't sound like a song off 
that album as such, sounds like they should maybe have sounded - the big 
Phil Spector type thing. The only problem is that I'm not sure that anyone 
in Belle and Sebastian has the right type of voice to carry that kind of 
thing off. But it seems as if maybe that's the sound they're going for, what 
with hundreds of people in the studio and all. But maybe this is just a lot 
of nonsense - the producer's style might have changed entirely. The new 
single might be a techno number (is techno still a form of music? I get 
confused.). And this entire paragraph probably all a big load of muso wank 
anyway.

Disco-Go-Round Jen from Seattle drooled:
>I have concluded that Edinburgh has
>the most hunky boys per square mile than anywhere else
>I've been
Well, one can hardly disagree with that! Except perhaps the 'hunky' part. 
Does looking a bit like Nick Cave count?

Ian N.
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 24 13:24:11 2001
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:24:11 BST
Subject: Sinister: born to blush unseen
Message-ID: <46BDFDE4D1F@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

hello my loves,
  i'm writing this in the strange void that comes around lunchtime 
when you have two exams in the same day. i don't really have time to 
go home, and i don't really like studying in public, so i've given up 
and am facing the fact that if i don't know stuff then i just don't 
know it. and i was so desperate to study propositional logic. grr.

 i might be going to see liverpool v crystal palace tonight as a 
special end of exams treat if we can get tickets; although, i don't 
really want to go, its far too cold to sit in a stand and watch 
people running around. and all the good looking players are injured 
anyway. grr once again.

 archel (i think) (belated welcome back anyway) taled about shops 
that sell french stuff. the absolute bestest shops, though, are the 
ones in chinatown in manchester that just have collections of random 
stuff that the people who run the shops have brought over from japan 
or wherever and then charge huuuuge prices for hello kitty stuff and 
(my favourite) bad badtz maru and get away with it because there are 
no licensed outlets for sanrio merchandise in the uk except in 
london. but aside from them being really expensive there's a really 
nice sort of cluttered atmosphere in these shops,and they smell of 
whatever it is that makes oriental food smell like it does. mmm. and 
they have those funky video type things that never caught on here but 
are really big in japan (or so i'm told). vcds i think i mean.

 i saw a really good episode of the bill yesterday. it was so 
upsetting at the end when it turned out that the gay guy had stabbed 
the bloke that had been harassing him and his boyfriend. how i 
screamed at the tv.


 i looked at the sinister wap site the other day with my shiny new 
phone, its so cute, i a nobody-will-ever-look-at-this sort of way.
but i did a search for b&s wap sites and that was the only one in 
english that came up, so maybesinister has stepped into the future 
before others, or maybe everyone else has realised that it is in 
fatc, rubbish.

 does anyone else ever wonder if jenowl is real? i suppose you 
couldn't make it up though...

        oh, well, love and irn-bru for now,
                              wishing me luck for my last exam,

                                                        fiona.

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 24 15:07:24 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:07:24 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Happy New Year!
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277544B@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

(Chinese, that is)


Well well, content seems to be all the rage at the moment, it won't last...

So has Tony Doogan been sacked then? Or is it just a temporary change of
producer? Maybe B&S decided that their last album wasn't really much kop
after all then. As in, nice as it was, it was more or less a
not-quite-as-good copy of Twattybus. Right down to "Women's Realm" being
almost a carbon-copy of the song "...Arab Strap", complete with handclaps.
They've always admitted to wanting a Motown sound, but the closest they've
ever got was on Dirty Dream #2. So if they think Mike Hurst will help them
achieve that, I'm with them all the way...

(Incidentally, am I the only one who initially misread his surname as being
'Hunt'? That would have made things far more interesting...)

Motown is still a sound well worth aiming for, it's been resposible for some
of the best pop songs of all time. Speaking of which; 10 songs which, love
them or loathe them, are undeniably Perfect P!O!P! moments;
All Saints - Pure Shores
Dexy's Midnight Runners - Come On Eileen
Diana Ross & The Supremes - The Happening
Frances Nero - Out On The Floor
Lightning Seeds - Life Of Riley
Marvin Gaye - Heard It Through The Grapevine
Robbie Williams - Angels
Stevie Wonder - For Once In My Life
The Monkees - Daydream Believer
The Temptations - My Girl

Mind you, most of you will have realised by now that my opinions aren't
worth the paper they're written on. So when they're emailed, they must be
worth even less. After all, I still believe the best Australian band at the
moment isn't The Go-Betweens or The Lucksmiths, because The Whitlams are
much better.


Big Stu


PS It's normally about this time of year that everyone on the list starts
complaining about Valentine's Day, and how they never get any cards. So I
thought I'd get in there first.
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From j.botterman at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 24 14:48:56 2001
From: j.botterman at xxx.uk (Jon Botterman)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:48:56 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Oh, here she comes, now!
Message-ID: <3A6EEB57.90A217CB@rave.ac.uk>

Hello sinisterines

    Well I was astounded. The manics and wrestling all seem to have
little fans on this list which instantly comforts me. I've only just got
my body clock ticking at the right time today. Still, I have only me to
blame as I insisted on watching all of the Royle Rhumble live. I have
nothing better to do on Mondays than to sleep though, so I forgive
myself and buy a big pack of Haribo sour mix. This gives me super energy
which I use to study and stay up late drinking.
    I invented a new cocktail at the weekend called a Gin Gingerini.
Just mix gin, ginger beer, real beer ( not real ale ) and lambrini
together and drink. Do not shake as it explodes. It was during my stage
of enhanced wisdom that the Gin Gingerini brings that I thought up my
greatest idea ever. Chinese Burns night! A mix of traditional Scottish
and Chinese cuisine and drink. I think it might be a disaster or a
triumph, I'm not too sure yet.
    If anyone else wishes to have a fun night of mixing and matching I
recommend it. It's the new dance music which was the new comedy which
was the new football which was the new rock and roll. Have fun and eat
Haribo, even if you are a grown up like me (sort of).

>From Jon.


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From vodkabird at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 20:09:50 2001
From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com)
Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:09:50 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Not Much Effort
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From ian_pompy at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 20:42:20 2001
From: ian_pompy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Long?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:42:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: It lives!  It breaths!  It writes a load of old crap!
Message-ID: <20010124204220.4297.qmail@web618.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey everybody!
I am recently out of the nursery, so I thought I'd
introduce meself rather than lurk forever.
My name is Ian , I am from Pompey(Portsmouth), an' I'm
28, so I am neither oldest nor youngest on the list.
But I am a huge B+S fan, and was listening to TBWTAS
last night whilst playing chess.  Very cultured, you
may think, except my companion and I were getting
hideously drunk on home made snake bite.  Using
Tennants Super as the lager ingediant.  It made the
games more interesting at least.  One game was total
carnage, with both sides decimated in minutes. 
Everyone should try it, you know it makes sense.  My
drinking buddy normally hates all the music I love, 
but he can't hate B+S, and his admiration isn't even
grudging.And if you knew him, youd know what a big
compliment that is.
I have recently moved back down south after splitting
from my girlfriend, and have been reaquanting myself
with portsmouth f.c (their not terrific but their
competent) and generally getting drunk to ease my
pain.  But I wont bore you with the details. 
So thats my first post out of the way, and as I said
to my first girlfriend, I hope I'm doing this right.

Cheers for reading,
Ian


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under a viper'-- Vic Reeves  

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From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 24 20:58:51 2001
From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:58:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: and I miss new york. but london's okay.
Message-ID: <20010124205851.5973.qmail@web10302.mail.yahoo.com>

hi sinister.

I have so much free time that I don't know what to do
with myself. I've vowed to become a good student this
semester, full of on-time papers and studying, and I
made the journey to "campus" to go to the library and
check out some books for my essay on the magna carta,
but the allure of the computer lab was too much for me
to resist. I'm only human, after all. 

I've been in london for almost two weeks, and I have
yet to do much of anything except somehow spent £250
without actually buying anything. I just love it when
that happens. it's part of the reason I don't carry
cash very often, as it likes to disappear from my
wallet. doing stuff is overrated, anyway. I very much
like spending saturday night in easyeverything reading
up on tea cozies or butcher knives or whatever. with
that said, I'm now going to make a public spectacle of
myself and ask if any nice sinisterees would care to
help out a confused american college student and make
me go out. this is all because of advice from jonny,
so I take no responsibility for any of it. I didn't do
it, I tell you. apparently he's under the impression
that I'm somewhat well-known on you-know-what. 

a girl tried to hit on me last weekend, I think. which
doesn't work, cause I don't like girls. so I dropped
subtle hints, such as commenting on the attractiveness
of a television personality, and she laughed and
hasn't spoken to me since. I consider that a bit
harsh. maybe she wasn't hitting on me at all and just
thought I was a complete nut. in that case, I'm glad
to have been of service.

ah! I missed the magnetic fields, which really and
completely sucks. I'm going to have to go throw myself
into the nearest river now, because missing the mag
fields is a capital offense. I prolly couldn't have
gotten tickets anyway, and getting lost wouldn't have
been fun either. how does anyone ever learn their way
around london? or don't they? wouldn't that be
something, if everyone was aimlessly wandering the
streets trying desperately to find their way home?
sounds like a bad hitchcock film.

that's enough from me. wow, I think this is my
longest-ever post. can I get a "yay" for boredom?

tediously,
eric

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From jasonandreas at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 21:19:18 2001
From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:19:18 -0000
Subject: Sinister: September Forever (also contains a very interesting quesion about Eskimos)
Message-ID: <005301c0864b$505cc4a0$06c001d5@oemcomputer>

Heylo!

Last night I fulfilled one of my rawk fantasies by being given a drumstick
by the drummer of the band I went to see. I don't know why it *is* a rawk
fantasy - it just is! No more questions, this interview is over!

Okay, maybe not.

Above all though, Troika were excellent last night at the 13th Note. The
best I've ever heard them (mainly due to the Strawberry Fields acoustics
being utter and total and even complete pants). Nice one guys.

Big hellos to Sweetie (and her friend Snowflake), Amy J, Neil Milton (and
associated guests) and Lisa Walker, who I don't think is on the list, but
you never know.

Toffeecrisp? Where'd you go?

***Eskimo Question***

I was having a silly discussion with my girlfriend last week, and a question
popped into my head. Any of you anthropologists out there know the answer?

--> When Eskimos rub noses, do they get the same thrill from that 'kiss' as
we do from a snog? Do Eskimo lads go around saying things like "Oh man, I
rubbed noses with this really hot blonde last night!" Well? Do they? <---

***End of Eskimo content***

I got told by by team manager today that the management are beginning to
take a little more notice of me - which is always nice I suppose, then I
inadvertantly blanked a high(ish) boss-type person by ignoring her while I
looked at WWF news :) Oh dear.

All I wanted to do was ask the Eskimo question....

- Jase x

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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 06:06:51 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:06:51 -0800
Subject: Sinister: and you will know us by the trail of biscuit crumbs
Message-ID: <004701c08697$015e12e0$5663073e@aqlzosqt>

the seven sin(ister)s.

1) sweetie wrote:
>i have started my own (fictional) band
which is surely just copying belle and sebby on their current form....
<miouwww>

2) featherboa - i too am familiar with both freezing york (how are the ducks
these days?) and with friends not speaking to one.  in combination i can see
how it would be intolerable.  advice: complain bitterly to sinister and get
nothing done.  there's a strong precedent.  same advice to fiona (hi!) re.
alien housemates.

3) catholics have to do a COURSE before they can get married?????  not that
it's a bad idea i suppose, but i would replace the questions about whether
you're gay or not with ones like
- do you magically transform after 3 months of marriage from a romantic,
considerate, houseproud sexual athlete into a lazy, alcoholic slob who
thinks bed is somewhere to read the tv guide in peace? well, DO YOU?

4) and from catholicism to... dirty b&s titles - i think it's been done
before but never with such brio as mark's 'swing your cock around'.  genius.
what about
- is it wicked not to swallow?
- a summer wanking
- doggie style on wheels
- i know where the semen goes

oh no, this is getting too much.  i wanted an innocent evening after tasting
the evils of the 'after work drink' at (why?) yates wine lodge today.  did
you know that they don't serve crisps at yates?  as a policy.  i mean, what?

5) thanks to the go-betweens evangelists. i'll be in touch...

6) and while i think of it (but conveniently don't think about the existence
of the archive), has anyone heard/heard of this 'future pilot aka' record,
which is some bloke from the soup dragons doing traditional indian chants
plus involvement from 'members of belle and sebastian, the pastels, the
delgados and teenage fanclub...' i don't know which 'members' it is, and i
can't begin to imagine what it sounds like.

7) songs with modem sounds in them are evil and should be dropped down a
well for all eternity, and then for a bit longer.

luv archel xxx

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Wed Jan 24 23:01:44 2001
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:01:44 -0000
Subject: Sinister: All To Mooro's Parties
Message-ID: <F247MwInhdAHxNzFiPN000042bf@hotmail.com>


I shall start with the topical. 'Stuart Gardiner', about whom Nick Dastoor 
has commented memorably in the past, today ventured:

>>>As in, nice as it was, it was more or less a not-quite-as-good copy of 
>>>Twattybus. Right down to "Women's Realm" being almost a carbon-copy of 
>>>the song "...Arab Strap", complete with handclaps.

I find this all terribly unconvincing. I don't think that FYHC is a copy of 
TBWTAS at all. They are awfully different. 'Wicked Not To Care' *doesn't* 
resemble 'Beyond The Sunrise', for instance; there is no 'Spaceboy' on FYH; 
'chickfactor' and 'Seymour Stein' are *not* like 'The Wrong Girl'; and 
moreover, there is nothing on FYHC that sounds like the title track of 
'TBWTAS'. Oh, hang on - 'Woman's Realm' does? No, it doesn't. Not at all. 
Apart from anything else (I won't list anything else), it does not *swing* 
like 'TWBTAS'. Songs that swing include 'Panic' and 'John, I'm Only 
Dancing'. They do not include 'Woman's Realm', which does not sound very 
much like 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'.

It's been a while, and seeing as one or two folks were nice enough to ask 
me, or some other Pinefox, some specific questions, I shall try to answer 
them.

The geezer Miller asked:

>>>The Pinefox, did you go and see that Foxgloves photo in New York? Were 
>>>there any stragglers from the lumberjack community?

I didn't 'go see' it, but I saw it anyway. I didn't really have to go 
anywhere to see it, once I'd 'gone' to New York; it was sort of there 
anyway. Not much travelling was involved. A few yards, maybe. Hm. 
Lumberjacks? Oh, you bet. Straggle is the word. The verb. Straggle, rock.

Mooro UK wondered:

>>>Are you going to write a song about entertaining the NYC gliterati to 
>>>dinner at the Gotham Grill?

Well, I wrote some songs out there, and the glitterati were all very 
uninterested. Should I write a song about *not* entertaining them? That's an 
idea. I don't know about this Gotham Grill. What an idea. It must be one of 
Mooro's secret haunts, from the old days with 'David Johansen'. Or David 
Fairclough. Peter Johnson. Steve 'Lost' Heighway. They're not *all* 
glittery, by the way, close up. Some of them are quite hairy. Straggly, 
even.

The lad 96 cooked:

>>>Discoveries recently: Cake, by The Trashcan Sinatras, which is a lovely 
>>>album, makes me want to dance crazy tears, whatever that could mean, as 
>>>many of the best often do.

'Dance crazy tears' - I only just noticed that phrase. Baxendale, man, 
Bax*&^%$dale.

I think I have a tape that used to have that album on, but doesn't have it 
on anymore. I have never heard the album. Tears go by.

>>>Anyway, listening to The Negatives (NYC, 1998) do Jennifer She Said so 
>>>wonderfully reminded me of that festival thingy I went to last year (CS, 
>>>2000). Many things seem to. Smiles as ba ba dada da
da comes around.

That is very nice to see, but let's talk more about the lad Cole. The geezer 
Miller was on about it a while back, and none of the rest were up to speed 
with him, when he discussed 'No More Love Songs'. 'NMLS' smoulders and 
refuses to flame. It thuds gently. It whines gracefully.
The rest of the LP is ace, too. Has no-one else heard of it? Yesterday I 
sent a bunch of votes to that geezer who does the B&S Vote 2000 thingy (did 
he receive them? I don't know), and I had to put The Negatives at #1. Cole 
position. That kind of thing. Believe me, this is one trek of an album. I 
don't usually say 'Buy It' of LPs - for who buys LPs anyway? Not me - but in 
this case I ought to, for Lloyd's impecunious sake.

>>>I should be playing "chords", apparently.

Correct.

>>>At the moment I'm having only limited success.

You've only started. At this stage, limited success is success. It's better 
than unlimited failure.

>>>Could anyone give me the "chords" to any of the Go-Betweens songs,
preferably those without bar "chords", since I can't play those yet.

I wish I could. Give them to you, I mean. Let's think: 'Bachelor Kisses', 
the best GBs tune I have heard, is presumably something like:

Verse: C-D-G-Am (x2)
Next section: C-D-Bm-Em
Chorus proper: C-Bm-Am-G
Bridge: something like: Em - G (x3), Em-A
Solo = verse

Let's try 'Dive For Your Memory' also. How would that go?
I'll put it in a D, for the sake of argument.

D                        Bm
  If the cliffs were any closer
C                        G
  If the water [blah blah blah]
D                       A
  I would dive for your memory
G                                D
  [blah blah blah] rocks and the sand

D                A
When I hear you say
D                 G
That we stood no chance
    D                 A
I-I-I'd dive for your memory
A              A
We stood that chance

etc.


>>>Here's The Pinefox. I still know of no others. Though even if I did know 
>>>of others, I wouldn't know of others.

I'm not sure I know what you mean. Or am I?

>>>
Fine things to be interested in. But spare a thought for Jackanory. At a 
pinch, ...Morning Glory. Or even Tobermory.

Yes, do. It's the thought that counts: or the character counting them.

>>>I always thought the Wombles were common, until I found out it was just 
>>>where they lived. Tobermory? No, Wimbledon. John Fashanu? No, but he made 
>>>that clay sculpture over there...

Ooh! I must at this point remark:

TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO? NO, I FORCED HER TO COME.

>>>I could, but that's what the photographs are for. However, even those 
>>>aren't sufficient, damn it, I mean they're all the same; eyes skyward, 
>>>little-girl-lost.

By The Icicle Works? Why does no-one talk about The Icicle Works on this 
list?

>>>It's time for something new, so lets run a competition to
find a new pose for Welthorpe. Answers on a post-it note, just stick them to 
Nick's fridge.

I agree. I endorse that. I can't think of a pose that rhymes, though. Any 
fool can think of poses that rhyme. Actually, I already have Welthorpe shots 
not quite like that. If you have as many as I do, some of them are bound to 
be break the mould. Or break the lens.

All Back To Mooro:

>>>Ease Your Feet In The Sea must be the most muzak-friendly Belle and 
>>>Sebastian song, as today I heard it in Argos as I was hovering around my 
>>>collection point.

You know, that's a thing. I was in the silliest pub in London last week, 
namely the one on the concourse of Charing Cross station, drinking a *half* 
of Guinness that cost... �1.40, or something. And various old TFI things 
were playing as I bided my time and coped with the waste of money - and 
then, yes, it really was, 'Ease Your Feet Into The Sea'!! I felt like one of 
those kids you used to see on sinister who would write about hearing 
'TBWTAS' in Starbucks, or, you know, 'Ease Your Feet Into The sea' in Argos, 
or Charing Cross. Anyway, what did it make me think of? It made me think of 
people like David Moore, and Nick Dastoor. People who have dedicated 
themselves to Belle and Sebastian, or seem to have done so at some stage. I 
was moved at the thought of those people.

Juicy said, ages ago, in what was my original spur to writing this 
disappointingly dull thing at all:

>>>Over two nights we listened to sixty-nine songs.

Gosh! Really? So did we!

>>>The wallflowers of the album pulled their gladrags from the wardrobe, put 
>>>on a bit of slap and sparkled.

I agree, in a manner of speaking. Things that really don't do much on record 
did a lot live: esp 'It's A Crime', whose gradual build of harmonies 
thrilled; 'Wi Nae Wee Bairn', whose escalating lyric hit home for the first 
time; 'Love Is Like Jazz', an unpredictable highlight; 'Xylophone Track' for 
going lowest of all; 'I Shatter' for its - again - freshly audible words; 
'Zebra', which I suppose was aided by the facial expressions; 'King of the 
B', ditto in a way. I agree. That's what I was saying, wasn't it? I can't 
remember.

I note that most of these wallflowers are from disc 3. I maintain that disc 
3 is by far the worst of the three, and that those who think otherwise have 
probably seen the Magnetic Fields live too many times, if such a thing is 
possible.

>>>Laughter at lyrics took me by surprise and left me feeling slightly 
>>>puzzled, like friends laughing at Grandad's favourite joke.

Hm. This question of laughing at lyrics is an interesting one which could be 
worth pursuing in various contexts. Steady Mike and I were saying at 
half-time, over a cup of Bovril, that people really shouldn't be laughing at 
the lyrics, haven't they heard them 100 times anyway?, etc; but despite all 
that I did find myself laughing at some of them. Is it about delivery, about 
hearing the line delivered anew, about liveness (as though the joke, such as 
it is, whatever it may be) is fresh-minted; or is it also merely a matter of 
(as said above) some of the less familiar joke lines never having really 
registered before? Do people laugh when they see Belle & Sebastian live?

Do people see Belle & Sebastian live?

I'm sure I had a lot more to say about those gigs, but it is slipping from 
me, like my marbles. Where have they gone? If anyone can remember anything 
else about the gigs, please say so. In any case, they were two of the best 
shows I have ever seen by a pop group. Right up there with, you know, the 
Sundays in December 1992. Jeez, honey, how Up There do you want?

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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 25 00:43:38 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:43:38 +0000
Subject: Sinister: musical marrows
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100a9f90c005b8ff100a9f90c.a9f95f@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

i was sat on the tram coming home from my friends house where i had been scanning photos from
reading festival, which for some reason all included marrows, and i was having the following day
dream. 

It started off much like all my day dreams do with me playing in belle and sebastain but some how
it ended up with me wrestling in the wwf  wearing my duffel coat. and some how beating up steriod
filled monsters but my day dream bubble burt when i got off the tram and reasilsed i couldn't thank
the tram driver like you do on the buses and i felt that i should write to the tram owners and get
them to build a microphone into the door so when you leave you can say "thank you, it was smooth
journey i think you did really well" becuase even tram drivers need encouragement, or so i imagine. 

i have written two emails and mentioned wrestling twice and will not mention it again prehaps i
should have joined a wwf chat list. oh well didn't think that one through did i ? no i didn't.

i am happy as i'm going to see grandaddy on staurday which should be really cool. i like them a
lot. elbow are supporting and they're supposed to be really cool does anybody know anything about
them ? 

ahhhh well better get of to bedfordshire and rest my weary head.

Nigel Love

ps if anyone wants to chat about wrestling with me then they can. 

pps if anyone wants to see the marrow photos they can too.

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Thu Jan 25 01:07:55 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:07:55 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Jonny is a dick wrap
Message-ID: <200101250101.BAA19418@missprint.org>

Hello,

Just thought I'd join in on the smut fun too.

Had some more cleaner fun too, since exam has finished I'm back home it 
has been quite relaxing once again and I'm back home for a bit and going 
to do some dancing and sushi eating soon. :)))  It worked out really 
well cos I went back home bang on Chinese New Year by a little bit of 
chance more than anything so there is brownie points with mummy.

Big Stu beat me to the Valentine's day moan, so I'm going to do one 
better by moaning about next year's Valentine's day in advance as well 
as this one.  I'm convinced that the day is invented to take the piss 
out of single people, gah.

I dunno whether Eskimos rub noses or not, but I think I'd quite enjoy 
it if a girl rubs noses with me.  Not likely to happen tho, humph.

Nose rubs and Red Bulls (and Iru-Brus for my owner)
Ken
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Judy where did you go wrong? You used to make me smile when I was down.
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From MIWinship at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 03:48:28 2001
From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:48:28 EST
Subject: Sinister: dirty, dirty dream...#2
Message-ID: <8e.103e8bb0.27a0fc0c@aol.com>

Jesus! If there's one thing to bring me out from lurking it's a make B&S song 
titles rude contest. OK then:

My Wanking Days Are Over
Fucks in the Snow
Semen Stain
Modern Cock Song
Dickfactor
I Fought With A Whore
Knob on Wheels
Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying (In the Shakesperian sense - ie. 'cumming')
Judy and the Dream of Whores
Weeing on Other People
Nice Day For a Suck
La Partouze de la Bourgoise (look it up)

That has to be it, really. Shall we do Gentle Waves songs now...?

Sorry about the rudeness, but I've been on the 'razz' with theatre types 
tonight, including Mr. Jason Connery, who is a nice man. Should get to meet 
his dad on Saturday...

I recommend this album: 'I Hear A New World' by Joe Meek. 

Um, yeah, so this is my first post at last, and a (very) belated thanks to 
everyone who came to 2000 Troubled Teenagers. 2001 TT will happen, but I 
don't know when or where. Probably when there's some new 'product' to get 
excited about. So, err....

Aye, well, I'll be off then,

'Agent' Mike.

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From pastel_auricular at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 07:50:11 2001
From: pastel_auricular at xxx.com (Dante Dethrone)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:50:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: "Be gentle," he implores, "it's my first time."
Message-ID: <20010125075011.43967.qmail@web11905.mail.yahoo.com>

dear peepz,

     as the subject denotes, i've only recently been
let out of the nursery.  however, i have been
thoroughly enjoying your posts while in my fetal state
of membership.  i find all of your lives most
interesting, and i'm all too appreciative that such a
unique list exists.  it is indeed an honor to be
inducted into such wonderful company ...  enough with
the kissing up bit.
     it is my experience that the best books you read
are the ones you could have written yourself, which is
why i find myself feeling so close to the lot of you. 
of course, i wish i did know all of you, but i'm
afraid my current lack of funds (not to mention my
severe bouts with social anxiety) prevents me from
endeavoring the likes of a trip around the world.  so,
with that said ...  um, moving on.
     *insert content here:  on my way to the b&s gig
(yeah right), i came across a fellow fan at the gas
station (yeah right).  she had a clever look about
her:  a tilted head with horizontal smirk, a single
lock of burgundy hair brushing her brow, and a nifty
pair of flares (it's possible).  we gazed at one
another for what seemed like a ...  um, i dunno,
fraction of a second?  she pumped fuel like no other,
my friends, which forced me to synchronize our walk
into the store.  all the while, somewhere in the
labrynth that is my feeble mind, 'chickfactor' played
softly--skipping at times, when my heart did flutter. 
awww, wasn't that sweet?  (ugh)
     uh, don't let the choice of song throw you; i
live no where near New York, nor have i even been
there.  i reside in the united state that is Oklahoma,
and if you haven't a clue about the proximity or
steroetypes associated with this place, then i say
that's just swell. ;)
     well, i am a bit tired.  what's that?  'glad to
hear it,' you say?  hmm ...  so be it.

signing off,

jeremy

ps:  it would be much appreciated if you might let
     me know this message was sent successfully.  
     not all of you, of course; just the ones that 
     are terribly short, wear big socks, and have 
     trouble with bras.  it's okay, i won't make fun.

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From mammyjam at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 08:03:29 2001
From: mammyjam at xxx.com (allison smith)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:03:29 
Subject: Sinister: to the oklahoma resident
Message-ID: <F169DreBBsQwY6YHkid00001b21@hotmail.com>

hello- i have never done this before and i dont know if this will work, but 
i am a fan and i am also in oklahoma and since everyone is writing from the 
U.k, i thought that this was a strange happening.
hello jeremy.
are you in norman?
i just got sinister a few months ago and have been hooked since.

thankyou so much.

W.A. smith
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Thu Jan 25 08:21:54 2001
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:21:54 +1300
Subject: Sinister: new B&S stuff, Jeff Buckley's mother and "Prince Caspian"
Message-ID: <000d01c086a7$ff846120$316137d2@computer>

off sick from work today .... migrane. mmmm .... head pain.

Anyway, time to muse over a few things, inbetween spells of blinding pain.

***NEW B&S STUFF***
Two things strike me as good.
Note that on the band's site it says the band will hopefully release the
songs as *singles*. Plural. It would be nice if they rpeated their summer
'97 thing, and released three or four non-album singles or EPs this year.
Here's hoping. (AND FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE PUT "The Loneliness of a Middle
Distance Runner" OUT SOON!)

Secondly, keen-eyed readers will remember someone (can't remember who)
mentioning he ran into band members at a Go-Betweens concert in New York,
who were there for a reason he couldn't really discuss.

I say SPILL THE BEANS! I can only assume this was the film soundtrack thing.
Hal Hartley is based in New York ... so putting two and two together .....
OK, it's a strong lead, anyway. I wounder if it will be an instrumental
score, or actual songs. Or a combination of the two ....

***SPEAKING OF WHICH***
Wasn't Air's "The Virgin Suicides" s/t one of the best albums of the year?
Course it was.
Can't wait for their new album.

and onto ....
***JEFF BUCKLEY'S MOTHER***
(Motto: "I'm the new Metallica")
I've been a Jeff Buckley fan for ages, and missing his obnly Auckland gig is
a source of heartbreak for me. Oh well. Anyway, the insideous control with
which she has taken control of his legacy frightens me a little. I have been
subscribing to the JBIN e-mail neweletter for a while now, but unsubscribed
a week or so ago as I found it's tone was getting more and more annoying. I
don't like how she (Mary G, his mother) get's "fan" letters, and I certainly
object to her stance on Napster, getting people kicked off for trafding
unreleased Jeff songs. Personally (and here we delve deep into 'Lawrence's
personal opinion) I *think* Jeff would have LOVED Napster, being such an
obsessive music fan. I'm sure he would have relished the opportunity to find
alternate live readings of songs by Nusrat Ali Fakan, The Smiths, Led Zep
etc. But then he dies in a stupid accident, and suddenly he mother, with
whom I believe ghe had a fairly major falling out with just before his
death, decides people shouldn't trade his songs because he felt "religiously
protective" of them.

I don't know .... it just kinda gets to me. I mean, it's not like he's
losing out finacially because of it, because .... well, he's dead. All the
obsessive Buckley fans I know have all of his stuff.

Anyway, I could go on for ages about this .......

***NARNIA***
After my headache went away I read "Prince Caspian". Brilliant.
I also read the stuff on the Looper site. I've pre ordered the book, but
wonder how much I'll like it. As another listee pointed out, *way* too much
swearing. Not even clever swearing, which is tolerable, but just swearing
for the sake of it.

I could put some here to make the point .......

But I can't be bothered, and my spell checker will just try and make me
chane it to "funk" and "count" or something ....... (Bloody Bill Gates)

Well, once more unto the bed.

Stay beautiful, B&S community.

Lawrence Mikkelsen

PS - for those of you interested enough to wonder how my first gym sesion
went, I can say only "I can't feel my knees"

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From better_than_buffy at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 09:51:15 2001
From: better_than_buffy at xxx.com (selma jezková)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:51:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: obsession confession?
Message-ID: <F125w00dSdVudU5N3Fw00002b2c@hotmail.com>


To one and all, especially katy and david in glasgow :)

Last night, something occurred which made me ponder whether I actually fit a 
stereotype. Firstly, I didn�t even realise that people thought such things, 
which will become apparent, about belle & sebastian fans.

My friend donna, (no names have been changed), and I, (not as in 
�withnail��), were listening to arab strap because I was trying to convince 
her that she could not just dismiss b&s because she�d never heard of them, 
and therefore they must be crap. (donna by the way, is into techno techno 
stuff of which I�m told �electronica� is in no way related). Well, halfway 
through chickfactor donna informed me that a mutual friend of ours (who 
perhaps, it IS best remains unnamed), stated the so-called fact that once 
people become b&s fans they turn into complete obsessives. Well, I sat 
stunned for a while, trying not to show it, as I stacked all my cds into a 
neat pile on the table.

So, is it true?

I don�t know. Just because all my cds are alphabetised, my socks put in 
pairs next to each other as they dry on the radiator and the fact that the 
ends of my scarves have to hang the same length when I wear them doesn�t 
mean I�m obsessive does it? I mean, I�ve always hung my trousers, shirts, 
tops and duffel coats together in those respective groups in my wardrobe for 
as long as I can remember and my books have always been placed in subject 
order on my shelves. So, you can see, the more I thought about it, the more 
I was concerned as to whether or not there was any correlation.

But then, as I set of to get the hoover for its weekly spin in my room (I 
live in halls so locating it can often be a problem) I realised that I 
didn�t actually care. Obsessive or no obsessive I was me last night and am 
still me today and that was/is not going to change, not in any grate hurry 
anyway.

;)

love and kisses

mitten-wearing h xx



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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Thu Jan 25 10:33:48 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:33:48 +0100
Subject: Sinister: What's Behind Mike Hurst's Green Door?
Message-ID: <002701c086ba$69308380$246a243e@itjfvkli>

I wouldn't call The Springfields Dusty Springfield's backing band either.
I'd call them nigger, whitey. My spies tell me that Mike Hurst has been
involved with both Shakin' Stevens (a big influence on Stevie Reverb's
ever-expanding twang) and yes, you guessed it, Showaddywaddy. Strange that
the band spokesperson didn't mention that. They have been airbrushed out of
history.

I wouldn't call "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" a perfect pop moment
either, in the same way that I wouldn't call JESUS getting crucified a
perfect pop moment. Nothing that heavy can be a perfect pop moment. I
suppose it depends on our definition of pop. Which brings us right back to
the very beginning of The Story of Sinister. I would call it perfect though.
Perhaps Big Stu was referring to a jolly remix.

I think it's unfair to compare Peacock with Begbie because Begbie lived in
Edinburgh and Stuart David's Begbie lives in Glasgow.

Yesterday was a big day for me. I heard a bit of "69 Love Songs" on a
listening post. It was absolutely fucking awful, every bit as bad as I
expected.

I don't half fancy Jeff Buckley's mum.

Peter

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From ruvi at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 10:39:54 2001
From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:39:54 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Cigarettes and Nature and decency.
Message-ID: <002601c086bb$29a290e0$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk>

I am worried, I am deeply worried. I have been awake for about an hour and
am lighting my second cigarette of the day. The depths of my addiction are
quite troubling to me; it is seldom that I have ever met anyone who smokes
with the same vigour, dilligence and enjoyment as I. People I encounter at
clubs tell me they only smoke on weekends or nights out, others can time
their cigarettes like clockwork, while I, your prostrate profligate, am
perpetually at the beckon call of addiction. It raps on my window in the
night, bidding me to open it, squeeze a cigarette between my pursed lips,
light, and watch with rapt admiration at the plumes of blue smoke that
emanate from my mouth. I remember when I first started, aged 14 - I was in
Virginia, appropriately enough, where, as Tom Robbins once wrote, the stench
of tobacco permeates everything. I was visiting a girl, indeed, the first
and only girl I have ever loved and known (for I have loved many girl whom I
have never known but, no doubt, there will be time for more of that later).
She had treated me cruelly, although it was probably my fault, since I'm not
sure I loved her at all rather than the ideal of her I had carefully created
in my imagination. In the course of her foul treatment, however, she
introduced me to cigarettes. I had, it goes without saying, tried them
before, at the age of seven, when my father drunkenly gave me a puff. I
coughed and wretched and professed a loathing for the "cancer sticks" which
I thought would last forever. But, since nothing does and least of all human
declarations, my opinion changed. When I smoked a cigarette in Virginia, I
knew I was absolutely, irretrievably hooked. When my father picked me up to
drive me to the airport, I told him, and he responded with a tut that was
contrasted by reaching into his pocket to profer a cigarette. Whilst we were
waiting for our flight to board I sat in the smoking section of Dulles
Airport, which is more of a glass cube in which lies an impenetrable fog of
smoke, veiling the other inhabitants from view. I smoked three cigarettes
there, bought two cartons of Salems, and that was that. I have, of course,
tried to quit, but it has never worked. Whenever I read of someone who is a
heavy smoker, my instincts tell me to reach out for a nearby (it is always
nearby) packet, and have one in sympathy. Travey Emin smokes heavily,
Humpher Bogart did with a style and grace that is irresistable, as did his
beautiful, sultry foil Lauren Bacall. Hunter S Thompson always has a Dunhill
screwed into his cigarette holder, Oscar Wilde, in his beautiful essay The
Decay of Lying, wrote, "Let us go and lie on the grass and smoke cigarettes
and enjoy Nature". Since Nature can prove difficult to find in the city, I
contented myself merely with smoking while reclining on my bed. And when I
heard Auberon Waugh had died (I once sent him a letter, to which he never
replied; I hope the incident of his death was not connected, for it wasn't
such a bad letter), and that he was a confessed chain smoker, I lit one up,
just for him.

So who's to blame for this sorry state of affairs? My father, always ready
with a packet, and who bought me 5 cartons for Christmas? Hunter S Thompson,
that first light of debauchery that shone onto my young brain, made me want
to drink, fight, love, sing and dance in the night? Oscar Wilde? Humphrey
Bogart? Frankly, none of them. It is just, perhaps, the peculiarities of
people, their little foibles, tastes and desires. Everyone has them, and
they are not really of great importance; what is important, I have come to
decide, is decency and integrity. To live well, with kindness, dignity,
intelligence and passion, is the only thing worth striving for, perhaps more
now, in this modern era of conformity, easy options, affluence and
mediocrity, than ever. Thus, the worst crime is not one against social laws,
but one against oneself - to submit, to waste time, to give up, to debase
one's mind, to let oneself drift amidst sterility without expending the
effort to find something more. By comparison, whether one likes to smoke, or
drink, or abstain, or wear ugly clothing, or have bad haircuts, doesn't
matter. And, if you'll indulge me just one final quotation, I will conclude:
"I respect a man who has had to fight and howl for his decency, yes, for his
decency and his bit of goodness, much more than I respect the lucky ones
that just had theirs handed out to them at birth and never snatched from
them by...unbearable...torments, I..." - from Night of the Iguana by
Tennessee Williams.

I hope at least part of what I've written is comprehensible. I would take
the time to look over it but, alas, I am for once in a great hurry. I am
going away for the weekend to Devon to commune with Nature. That always has
the effect of inspiring me - to go away from the tumult of the city and out
where the nights are solemn, the days are beautiful, the surroundings have
the mark of ages, of the verdant majesty of unfettered life. I will,
however, at the back of my mind be looking forward with a little quiver in
the heart to the enormous backlog of e-mails that shall be lurking for me
when I return.

Ruvi.

PS. There may be no mention of Belle and Sebastian in the above, but, rest
assured, I still love.

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From sleeka at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 11:24:30 2001
From: sleeka at xxx.com (sleeka at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:24:30 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Planet Balfron
Message-ID: <3a700cee.697a.0@btinternet.com>

Hello,

I have been pretending to read a book - "The Boy Who 
Looked At The Moon" about Cat Stevens.  It turns out 
that Mike Hurst was Cat Steven's first producer and 
quite significant in his career.  Mike Hurst produced 
Cat's first single, "I love my dog".  I don't know if you 
know this song, it's a belter - it's got a really over the 
top orchestral backing which I like, cos I like over the 
top things.  Like "Bo Rap" by Queen.  He also produced 
Cat's first big hit, "Matthew and Son" which rocks.  I 
didn't know this, but Cat Stevens stole the tune from 
some obscure band who were kicking about London at 
the time.  Mike Hurst was raging when he found out, he 
made Cat promise never to steal someone else's tune 
ever again.  The section of the book about Mike Hurst is 
written by Mike Hurst, and he comes across like a 
pleasant chap.  I like Cat Stevens almost as much as 
Shakin Stevens, so I'm quite pleased that Belle and 
Sebastian are using him.  Fingers crossed for Joe Boyd 
next time!

Also, my favourite website www.flipfloplyin.com  .   You 
should go and have a look at the micropops, especially 
the micro belle and sebastian (it's on Micropops F-M).  
Try and guess who's who!  I can spot Sarah fairly 
easily.  Also on the same page there's a micro 
Incredible String Band.  Deadly!  I'm going to see them 
tomorrow.

Me and Julia walked across the frozen Lake of Monteith 
to the ruined abbey on the island.  You know what's 
good for you!

Yours,
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From rebeckas at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 13:55:06 2001
From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:55:06 
Subject: Sinister: film before sunrise and song come here byt kath bloom makes me smile
Message-ID: <F308SnRMWuLn5U9T3TG00002c72@hotmail.com>

hey folks

i saw a post on the sinister from back in 1998 while searching
for facts about kath bloom, i fell in love with her music after seeing the
movie
before sunrise whom i also fell in love with..

i am searching for records by kath..does anyone  know where to get
them?.or can u send me a tape with them?? or cd?

please mail me back i've searched all over for those records but no
luck..

oki hugs becka in sweden

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From rebeckas at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 14:03:16 2001
From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:03:16 
Subject: Sinister: lovely artist
Message-ID: <F92ljxkhQVWN1EJCtwZ00005688@hotmail.com>

hey folks

i saw a post on the sinister from back in 1998 while searching
for facts about kath bloom, i fell in love with her music after seeing the
movie
before sunrise whom i also fell in love with..

i am searching for records by kath..does anyone  know where to get
them?.or can u send me a tape with them?? or cd?

please mail me back i've searched all over for those records but no
luck..

oki hugs becka in sweden

http://travel.to/blondie
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Thu Jan 25 15:00:47 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:00:47 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Mike Hurst - You Must Know Everything
Message-ID: <002301c086df$b72295e0$606a243e@itjfvkli>

I haven't posted twice in one day since the glory days of Rodd Begbie, but
Mister Chris has inspired me to check the index of all my pop books for Mike
Hurst references. Feel free to do the same - it's what the list's for.

"Stoned" by Andrew "Loog" Oldham contains two references: "...while late
Springfielder Mike Hurst went behind the lights to discover Cat Stevens.
Hurst cut both Cat and my own First Lady of Immediate, P. P. Arnold, on
'First Cut is the Deepest'." ...and another reference which isn't worth
repeating.

Unfortunately that's all. Someone called Letha Hurd is in The Faber Book of
Pop.

One day Sinister will be the biggest source of Mike Hurst information on the
web. Obsession? Too fucking right, mate.

Peter

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 15:01:42 2001
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:01:42 -0500
Subject: Sinister: shouldn't have worn a thong to work...
Message-ID: <F84y4j6SbHZGVRgGPL700006c68@hotmail.com>

well good morning my little sweeties...
actually it's a crap morning, so run, run, run...
i heard b&s in a starbucks the other evening...oh oh oh, just after i saw 
crouching tiger, hidden dragon on an IMAX screen, wicked movie...well i was 
in a starbucks with the eternal ex, and b&s came on, but the speakers were 
so crap that it sounded like pants...the irreverant isobel came through so 
strong over wee stuart that i thought it was a cover. okay i'll admit i 
thought that veruca salt had done a cover of my favourite band...and yes 
mother, i was stoned at the time.
okay i was reading some posts this morning and i got a lot cuz bill gates 
got hacked or sumfing and i went without you little sweeties for a whole 
day...oh the horror
feather boa...your parents bought you a bus t-shirt and a mug!!! bluddy 
hell, the closest my mother came to that was buying me a new kids on the 
block t-shirt when i was in the 9th grade...and she didn't know i was 
gay...bullshit, it's her fault i'm convinced...
anyways...(sorry, i'm canadian)
it looks as though stuart david is trying to grow some balls...too bad it 
doesn't reflect in his music...i don't like this peacock thingy...
McMcMc is a cutie...
oh and thanks to whomever posted about unidentified human remains and the 
true nature of love, that was the best play i've even been in. there's 
nothing like performing and talking about one's genitalia when one's mother 
is in the audience...
and there's been some talk of eskimos...it's not a nice word...north 
american ones are innuit...not sure what others are called...
i've calculated that i've been smoking for 12 years...i've been doing this 
longer than anything else...not good...
oh and i got a little intoxicated (quelle suprise) last night and put some 
cd's in my briefcase that i should listen to today...heehee...
i put in the cloud 8 single by frazier chorus, perhaps the best cover of 
anarchy in the uk ever...plus, who doesn't like a single with baby chickens 
on the cover?
i also picked up the farm, sarah...(mclachlan, b4 she sold out and became kd 
lang) prozzack (i dunno why) les rhythmes digitales and marilyn manson...man 
i must have been trashed...and i put in fold your hand child, heehee, i had 
to mention that...
okay, here's a warning that i guess a lot of students have found out whilst 
living away from home. throw out the underwear that you don't like wearing, 
actually do it right now. there will come a time when you haven't done 
laundry and you are desperate for some clean knickers and you will wear 
those uncomfortable kind. you can see in my subject line what i've had to 
wear to work today...and they're riding up into the great unknown for the 
millionth time today...
and on that loverly note i'll close this...
have a great morning sweeties...

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 15:02:18 2001
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:02:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: shouldn't have worn a thong to work...
Message-ID: <F192kYF5nieqQD2nHdI00002766@hotmail.com>

well good morning my little sweeties...
actually it's a crap morning, so run, run, run...
i heard b&s in a starbucks the other evening...oh oh oh, just after i saw 
crouching tiger, hidden dragon on an IMAX screen, wicked movie...well i was 
in a starbucks with the eternal ex, and b&s came on, but the speakers were 
so crap that it sounded like pants...the irreverant isobel came through so 
strong over wee stuart that i thought it was a cover. okay i'll admit i 
thought that veruca salt had done a cover of my favourite band...and yes 
mother, i was stoned at the time.
okay i was reading some posts this morning and i got a lot cuz bill gates 
got hacked or sumfing and i went without you little sweeties for a whole 
day...oh the horror
feather boa...your parents bought you a bus t-shirt and a mug!!! bluddy 
hell, the closest my mother came to that was buying me a new kids on the 
block t-shirt when i was in the 9th grade...and she didn't know i was 
gay...bullshit, it's her fault i'm convinced...
anyways...(sorry, i'm canadian)
it looks as though stuart david is trying to grow some balls...too bad it 
doesn't reflect in his music...i don't like this peacock thingy...
McMcMc is a cutie...
oh and thanks to whomever posted about unidentified human remains and the 
true nature of love, that was the best play i've even been in. there's 
nothing like performing and talking about one's genitalia when one's mother 
is in the audience...
and there's been some talk of eskimos...it's not a nice word...north 
american ones are innuit...not sure what others are called...
i've calculated that i've been smoking for 12 years...i've been doing this 
longer than anything else...not good...
oh and i got a little intoxicated (quelle suprise) last night and put some 
cd's in my briefcase that i should listen to today...heehee...
i put in the cloud 8 single by frazier chorus, perhaps the best cover of 
anarchy in the uk ever...plus, who doesn't like a single with baby chickens 
on the cover?
i also picked up the farm, sarah...(mclachlan, b4 she sold out and became kd 
lang) prozzack (i dunno why) les rhythmes digitales and marilyn manson...man 
i must have been trashed...and i put in fold your hand child, heehee, i had 
to mention that...
okay, here's a warning that i guess a lot of students have found out whilst 
living away from home. throw out the underwear that you don't like wearing, 
actually do it right now. there will come a time when you haven't done 
laundry and you are desperate for some clean knickers and you will wear 
those uncomfortable kind. you can see in my subject line what i've had to 
wear to work today...and they're riding up into the great unknown for the 
millionth time today...
and on that loverly note i'll close this...
have a great morning sweeties...

______________________________________________________________________
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		-Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton.

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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 25 15:27:34 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:27:34 +0000
Subject: Sinister: dreaming of terracota plant pots
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100aa30f3005b8ff100aa30f3.aa326b@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

i was sat in the greenhouse potting up my organe plant daydreaming about all the plastic plant pots
being made out of terracota and wouldn't that be cool. But then i thought why am i day dreaming
about terracota pots ? i'm a young man in my prime i should be thinking about nudey ladies or
summat, but all i could manage was mrs goggins from postman pat which alarmed me slighty it has to
be said.

Neighbours was cool today Joel and Flick got togther. and it whilst i watching neighbours that i
had the following day dream... I was sat in the coffee shop when isabel campbell walked in and she
wanted sore throat sweets but the coffee shop didn't sell any so i took her to see doctor karl  who
made her better and as a thankyou she aggreed to play at my school ball. Twas good. 

Only i've never been to a school ball they didnt have them when i was at school and i can't
remember what happened when i was at college and at  uni the nearest thing is offbeat a really cool
indie disco where everybody knows everybody and i'm sure some of you have been and know what i'm
talking about, while others who havent been should go for its good. The nearset to a ball i've been
to was a Bop at Oxford UNI but i went in  my flares and cactus jack checked red flannel shirt
instead of a tux. The point being have i missed out ? is this the reason i spend my days day
dreaming of terracota pots ? 
oh well. back to the grind stone that is daytime TV....

nigel love



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From gelflingag at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 18:41:31 2001
From: gelflingag at xxx.com (alana J GIANNI)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:41:31 -0800
Subject: Sinister: of blessed sun of cursed light
Message-ID: <20010125.104217.-3679801.1.GELFLINGAG@juno.com>

if my i's seem to look pressed against the widow's pain
                  "oh let the sleep out of my sick skin"
so soft like hard apon this                 
makes                oh lift thy heavenly vessel
                        to the sun to so may the heavenly frost
        of sleep apon my sickly skin may fall 
gently as firm apon my weery i's          oh let the rest 
fall from my sleeves               oh why has thou kiss 
not fallen apon my i's          plucked from salvation's
   loving arms you left apon my i's instead 
a kiss of sharp beloved wake    like poison it sat 
                                burning like hot as cold as ice 
apon my i's i rest my veiw       to fix apon the widow's 
pain             she sleeps like sleep i wake 
               and in this sleep she screams
as loud as sofly as quiet is loud        apon her i's did fall a kiss
                       but not one i would blessedly wish      for this
kiss
apon her  i's          was the kiss  like cold      like fire or snow
   like burning sinders of fallen ash             she scream as 
death like life or light        she scream apon my 
                   sleepless i's          "do end my pain do let
this end." apon my i's did they hear this  
 the widow's voice she did scream so long   so long
as short for all is gone                  but in her scream i herd her
speak
"oh please oh please, let the sleep out, let the sleep out of my skin!"
her body old and weak as death as pain as fear is joy        "oh let the
sleep out of my skin!"            she begged and cried            for
life to 
die                  her body old     her mind alive          her arm had
gone 
        alone apon her sholder      sits                     an empty
space where
                                     it should rest 
her leg saw'n off         and at the knee                     a blanket
sat
like white like some or other peace         placed high above
like low or east    above her head all smothered in sweat 
in sweat so bright to sky they hit          apon a pole within a 
bag      that was her life           or what was left instead 
               a bag with filled inside                  a life of hers 
of hers her life hung on a hook    placed cunningly above her head
slowly like fast or slower so       the bag was left            alowed to
drain back in                            so sad as sad like pain or kind
          so apon this sight my i's where fixed 
the widow's pain                                                         
   i could not fix   
                                  in place of fix a tear instead fell  
   oh let the sleep out of my widow's pain!


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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 15:26:34 2001
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:26:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Are B&S the kebabs of pop? 
Message-ID: <20004598.980436394329.JavaMail.imail@swirly>


Do my eyes deceive me? Is Jason Andreas back with us? I was just talking
about you a minute ago. Anyway, welcome back, we're still all nuts.

Hehe.....my flatmate is a hardcore Limp Bizkit fan and generally into the
whole rock thing but I caught her singing 'Like Dylan In The Movies' the
other day. Mind you, I caught myself humming along to 'We're In This
Together Now' by the might Nine Inch Nails. I've also got a bit of a soft
spot for Fred Durst.

I nearly peed my pants today when i read NME's title on the B&S article. I
honestly thought they were gonna do a cover of Petula Clarks 'Downtown'. Now
*that* would be something different. And they could film it in the Gorbals!
(no offence to anyone living in the Gorbals area of Glasgow). Mind you, I
think Petula's impression of Downtown is very differnet to mine. If it's
neon signs and stuff, then the video should be shot in Tollcross or
somewhere like that.

God, I'm talking a load of crap today.

It's official: my bagpuss hot water bottle is *the* best thing ever. It's
better than a poke in the eye, anyway.

JenOwl> there's something written about/by you in The 13th Note loos.
Nothing nasty, just a bit odd.

Nothing really interesting to say, except that I have a visitor coming to
stay in my flat in nine days and I can't wait. You know who you are.....I
needn't say your name.

Right, now something to get you all thinking. If Belle & Sebastian were a
food and/or drink, what would they be? I reckon they'd be a toffee apple or
a stick of candyfloss or tiramisu or something with Applewood smoked cheddar
in it. If they were a drink, they'd be a double Pernod and blackcurrant.

If anyone compares them to cabbage, I'll get angry. So don't do it.

Right, well, I suppose I should get off the stage before the heckling and
shower of rotting fruit begins.....

Hope everyone's comfy and safe....

Love and cuddles....

Pamela The Toffeemonster
xxx
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From gogron at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 25 16:23:44 2001
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:23:44 +0000
Subject: Sinister: it is far to the orange grove, but farther than that is the sea... are 
 they in the same general direction?
Message-ID: <3A705310.26E94E79@netscapeonline.co.uk>

hi
I tried smoking, I really did. I got packets of rough unfiltered ones
and chained for days on end. I moved onto cigars, even, but to no avail:
I can't get hooked. I did get rather addicted to the look of dangling a
Camel from the corner of my mouth whilst holding a snooker cue though,
but it was temporary. I have been seen lonesome behind a fug of smoke so
caustic that people crept back into the corners. That or muttering
politically correct stuff.
My poisons and addictions and life threatening wanderings are not,
however, in the realm of smoke. As I said, I did try...

someone called banchory was on #sinister saying T-Shirts are about to
become VAT something. I think the upshot is that they will soon be 17.5%
more expensive... so hurry if you don't have one yet.

It's Burns Day today. He's a poet from Scotland, albeit a dead one.
now this a bit like compilation tapes: you send someone someone else's
song, which I always can't quite take, because what I would say to
someone I have feelings about are what I would say from my own heart.

take this (Burns)

THE CARES O LOVE

HE
The cares o Love are sweeter far
   Than onie other pleasure;
And if sae dear its sorrows are,
   Enjoyment, what a treasure!

SHE
I fear to try, I dare na try
   A passion sae ensnaring;
For light's her heart and blythe's her sang
   That for nae man is caring.

That's not really true, is it?
In his defence I quote a bad, brief poem by the man.

Help, give a melancholic half an hour and he gets to slagging of his
favourite poet. Sorry, Rabbie.

Now to tread a line. To be short, because irrelevant, or to lengthen, so
as to explain? (at this point saves as a draft)

shall I, shalln't I

/me always rather liked to dive into swimming pools

Gordon

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From edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk  Thu Jan 25 16:48:01 2001
From: edna_welthorpe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Edna=20Welthorpe,=20Mrs?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:48:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Hurst and Last and Always
Message-ID: <20010125164801.14183.qmail@web6103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello children

Assiduous research on the internet brought
www.themuzikmakers.com to our attention and this brief
biography of Mr Hurst. Make of it what you will

Edna

Mike started on the London stage at the age of 4,
alongside the likes of Max Miller and Sid Field, in
the dying days of Music Hall, which he probably helped
to finish off. 

In 1962 he joined The Springfields along with Dusty
and Tom. They achieved the first ever top 10 American
hit for a British vocal group with Silver Threads And
Golden Needles in that year and were voted top British
group in 62 and 63. The Springfields were the first
British group to record in Nashville. 

After the group broke up in late 63, Mike formed a
backing group and hit the road. This was no ordinary
bunch of musicians. Jimmy Page was first choice
guitarist, with Tony Ashton on keyboards. Jimmy was
replaced by Albert Lee after a couple of months, and
the group's choice of Country Rock, made their demise
inevitable by the close of 64'. 

Mike then hosted the first BBC radio show for
teenagers, Teenscene. He interviewed all of Swinging
London, and visiting Americans, including Bob Dylan. 
In 1966 Mike became a record producer, signing the
then unknown Cat Stevens, and producing all his early
hits. More hits followed with the likes of Manfred
Mann, Spencer Davies, Four Tops, Showaddywaddy,
Shakin' Stevens and others, totalling 49 top 40
singles and ten platinum albums. 

In 1981 Mike ran a theatre school for children in
Henley-on-Thames, writing several musicals which were
presented at the Kenton Theatre, Henley and later in
Plymouth after Mike's move to Devon. 

Throughout the late 80's and early 90's Mike ran a
series of successful shows for BBC radio Devon and the
South West, along with several Radio 2 series. During
this time he also researched a book on the history of
pop from Elizabethan England until the present day.
This spawned an extremely successful lecture tour in
all the major Public schools and colleges in Britain,
which is now an annual event. Mike launches a 'one
stop' web site for all music fanatics (and the rest of
you), in September 2000, themusikmakers.com, plus a
TV/video series of the same name in 2001. 


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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 16:52:45 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: OH dear. Looking for help from the Norwegians
Message-ID: <20010125165245.14629.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com>

Hmm.
The ongoing saga of me with my disasterous university
life continues...

WHAT I NEED:

Any sinister kids out in Norway who fancy helping out?

 All I'm asking, is that you could perhaps write to
me, in Norwegian, and I shall do the same back. I need
to practice my writing in Norwegian, as it is holding
me back in the worst ways possible. Its the writing
that I am doing really badly at. All I need, is
someone who will take some time, just a little time
whenever possible, to write to me in Norwegian. I will
write back, if I make mistakes, point them out to me,
and let me know what I should be saying instead.

Aparently, I got the second highest score for spoken
Norwegian (yay!) which is quite amazing, as at least a
third of the class are Norwegian native speakers, and
I'm not one of them.  

My advisor reckons I will get my honours Norwegian,
but I will have to work hard. She said it isn't
impossible for me to get a decent grade honours as
well. 

I've also spoken to my teacher, who is willing to give
me extra homework to practice with, and give me extra
classes. I've been advised to get as much Norwegian as
possible into my life for the next five months, and
thats what I intend to do. Speak it, write it, breathe
it, maybe not quite live it, but certainly as close
as. 

I don't necessarily want to have a career with
Norwegian, but I want to be able to leave uni, with my
head held high rather than tucked between my legs. 

I've already asked for extra work for the weekend, on
top of what I have to do for next week, on top of all
my other classes in literature and things.

The way I see it, five or six months spent holed up
studying and learning isn't that bad. Its a fraction
of my lifetime, and I want to get it right. I just
want that honours degree I came here promising myself,
three and a half years ago, that I would get. 
 
So, here goes. Hmm.

I'm nervous as anything about all this, and hoping
desperately that it will all work out for the better
and that I will get a grip on it, and it won't all be
for nothing.
All I want to do, is see my determination, get me
whatever I want it to get me. Its helped me out in the
past, and it might help me again. I hope it does.

Thanks to everyone who sent me encouraging e mails
from my last post, which was along the lines of
"Panic! Panic! help! What am I going to do? I'm
doomed!". There were a lot of intelligent words of
wisdom there. Cheers. 

Anyway, hopefully there will be someone out there who
is in Norway and thinks they could help me. Karma will
thank you for it.

Love,
(a panicky, but determined)
idleberry

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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 17:04:11 2001
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:04:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Actual content for once, with other stuff
Message-ID: <383230076.980442251318.JavaMail.root@web394-mc>

Hello Sinister

Just took my last exam of the semester. It feels so good. And I am going to
get so drunk tonight. (but please don't tell my mum)

*Content*
My flatmate asked me for a best-of-tape of Belle & Sebbie before I leave the
flat. That was the hardest thing ever: a best of tape of your favourite
band. So I thought about it for a while and then decided to be rational
(ha!): I had a 60 minutes tape so  I took three songs from each LP and one
from each EP, so. Now, which ones would you choose? Tricky one I reckon, but
still I would be pretty interested in knowing.

*More content* ( I know you can't believe it)
or B&S moment to be precise. Walked in the statistic exam this morning
listening to A Century of Fakers. Sounded kind of ironic.

Juicy Luicy said:
Does Honey have spelling-mistake-insertion software? I always read
through what I've written before pressing send (anal, moi?) and yet I
always spot errors when my posts come back to me.

It happens to me too, all the time actually. But well, I am foreign, can
that be an excuse?

ATP: will it be full booked soon and should I pray my mum for a loan, or
should I be responsible and adult and wait until I save to buy the ticket?
My job search will start as soon as I am in London I promise, so I can have
money and be good and not spend it all in the pub. This means working in 10
days. Hmpf, I don't like working, really.

Hefner gig on Saturday night. Once more, I am afraid of dying of excitment.

Have a lovely week end all of you
Elena xxx


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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 17:51:19 2001
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:51:19 EST
Subject: Sinister: The barometric and electromagnetic spheres affect his aerodynamic impulses
Message-ID: <66.b8847b2.27a1c197@aol.com>

Hewwo,

The rude B&S songs craze is bad. So there. The subject line is my Shy Violet 
quote from Rainbow Brite. I have the videos woo! I nearly know them by heart 
already.

I am singing a song called "Who is Silvia?" for my standard grade music. But 
the point is, it's so squeaky high that you can just sing any words you want, 
and no one'll notice. So my lastest phrase to sing is "I like cheese cos it 
is good", and it's my own revenge against the people who wouldn't let me sing 
a smiths song.

I don't even like cheese (since my work experience when I had to grate that 
huge three foot slab and i smelled of it all day). 

I dyed my hair with purple dye. It turned out kind of reddish purpley. It's 
the colour of period blood, only a bit more purple. 

Today was pretty mokeish. I was wearing rainbow coloured tights, because I 
wanted to. But this boy in the year above me, said something mean, and I said 
something sassy back, because I wasn't in the mood, and he just grabbed me 
and went to punch me, and I shut my eyes, and when I opened them, my Blonde 
friend had him and she was yelling "if you ever touch her again I'll kill you 
rah rah rah" which was prety fab, because he ran off, and I didn't get a 
kicking.

There's a man down where people go for lunch ten minutes away from the 
school. It's a nice place, with lots of different food shops, like chippies, 
and indians, and delis and sweet shops. It's called The Village, and it's 
really quaint and old fashioned. But this man, he's american, or canadian  or 
something, and he goes there every day. He started off, just standing in the 
middle of the street, shouting about God, and Jesus, and being saved. And the 
hard kids all started listening, for a laugh, and so he ended up with a huge 
crowd round him,and he  tells them all about some guy from Nazareth who's 
going to save us all. Now he has a microphone and a big sign, and lots of 
people listening to him.

 But this is how I figured I'm damned. Because I went down there, with the 
Blonde. Whenever we go down for an indian, we call it going to 
Riceandcurrysauceland. But we had to cut through this guy, and his huge 
circle of hard kids, all listening raptly. And he was talking about loving 
your neighbour, and going to heaven, and being kind and good and nice cause 
Jesus is going to like them for that. And he said "Do you think you'll try to 
do that?" And they all cheered, and I've never seen them so enthusiastic 
about something that wasn't about sex or drinking.

 And then I went through the crowd, and they all started jeering and spitting 
at me, and throwing stones and chips and things at me, until I was well 
clear. And the Jesus man just laughed and watched, then started talking 
again. He didn't say anything like "Jesus wouldn't be too pleased if you 
threw things and spat on someone". He just laughed and went right on talking 
about the apostles and how bluddy grate they were all supposed to be. 

Yay to honey for taking a stand against junk e mail. Them lowfly attatchments 
keep making my computer crash, and it's not funny.

Belle and sebastian are fab indeed. They should have (if they'd been around 
at the time) done the soundtrack for Gregory's Girl. And they should have 
played Stars of Track and Field at the start, where Dee Hepburn is running 
around. Dee Hepburn lives down the road from me now. I saw her in Safeways 
the other day. It was kind of sad. She should be all famous and jet set, 
because she was my idol ever since I saw the film. I ever had my hair like 
her when I was 11. Maybe though, it's better not being all famous and jet 
set. I wouldn't want to be. Famous people are kind of mokeish. Plus, mostly, 
it's just hard kids that would like you, and want to hang around with you. 
Especially if you were rich, which you prolly would be.

I don't like the girls who put pictures of Ronan Keatings inside their wallet 
thingies. They have bad karma.

I had such a rammy in PE. I did a sitting protest by sitting in the middle of 
the court and refusing to play because I was meditiating so there. And I kept 
hitting cocks into the hard kids court on purpose because they were all 
pretending to be professional badminton players and it was really annoying. I 
got hit with a racket for my pains. And the teacher asked me why I was being 
destructive (and I wasn't. And my teacher's a peado, he keeps looking in the 
girl's changing rooms) and I told him i had my period so go away. He went 
away and all.

The Blonde sent a letter of warning to James the Ginger Perv's girlfriend. 
Now he says he's going to make my life hel and get me. I believe him, he told 
me once it turns him on to see me cry or hurt. 

Text messages are grate. 

Wheel of Fortune is bad.

Rainbow Brite Rocks.

I like cheese cos it is good.

The Blonde says can I hack into the US military and send a bomb on france, 
because she doesn't like french people. I said no, I can't hack that well, 
and no, I like French people anyway.

Drink some Ribena. 

Do something pretty before they release the hounds.

Hugs,
Jen

Ps. www.angelfire.com/weird/mmmhowqueer/index.html - new bob story.
Pps. Sorry this was really long.





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From pinefox1 at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 18:19:14 2001
From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:19:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: soundtracks to unimaginary films
Message-ID: <20010125181914.18832.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com>


You know, writing that title it has struck me that
there were once many Blur fans on sinister. Where have
they gone? And were they as irritated as me at Blur
starting The Best Of Blur with the same two tracks as
'Blur'? Not only are the 2 tracks the same, and in the
same order, but both LPs have 'Blur' in the title, as
well as in the, the, you know, the band name!!

It was just too much: I mean, not enough. Also, that
woeful track called 'Music Is My Black Box Radish',
etc - oh, woeful. When did Blur last do something
really good? I have to go out on a broken limb and
suggest: 'The Universal'. And even that's pushing it,
to some ears.

The geezer Miller talked about Hurst. It's all over
now. I admire Miller for being able to talk so much
about such boring stuff, and hear 69 Love Songs and
think it dreadful. I *admire* that kind of fortitude,
as I have said before. I mean it.

I have been commissioned to work on the soundtrack to
the following scene from a hip old movie. This is just
a taster, you understand. There's lots more in this
vein, plenty more; but I thought this might be more
than enough for you. I am thinking of sticking a
Go-Betweens track in the background. Probably 'Dive
For Your Memory', possibly rerecorded with rhythm
guitar by Alasdair Cook 96. What d'you reckon?


------------------

STUART
(laughing, sort of)     Oh, Joy!

JOY                     Oh, but you know how it is.
                        And well, most guys�

STUART                  I'm not most guys.

JOY                     I know. If only most guys were
                        like you.

STUART                  But then I'd be like most
guys.

JOY (laughs)            Oh, Stuart. If only I felt the
                        way I'd like to feel with you�
                        Life is so unfair. It's all my
                        fault.

STUART                  I know.

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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 18:50:39 2001
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:50:39 -0500
Subject: Sinister: O, let me not be mad, not mad, sweet heaven!
Message-ID: <F201NhnM7kl3DyzOsJm00001d4c@hotmail.com>

I had a dream where I was naked in the most beautiful meadows, sunny and 
green, peacefully enjoying myself, when a man in the distance appeared with 
binoculars. Full of rage, I ran after him. Perhaps this is due to the cold, 
overwhelming sense of smut and bodily fluids.
Why does Belle and Sebastian's next record have to be bad? Let's not wish 
for disappointment but wish wish wish for loveliness - maybe you'll hear it 
and your bosom will heave, your knees will tremble and you'll dissolve into 
a warm light! With Pink Glitter (for Honeys)!

David Moore wrote:
>I checked out Looper's site now its been hijacked by "Peacock" Johnson. 
>Firstly at work (left hurriedly - 4 letter word count too high) later at 
>home. Book sounds interesting, pictures astonishing. Wee Yoko looks quite 
>fanciable in her red wig, but I don't know who will go for John Winston 
>David as Begbie (that's Francis, not the formerly fragrant Rodddd) in a 
>Hawaiiian shirt. What do you reckon, Genevieve?

Well, he's gone a bit mad, but I am intrigued. Many boys around here wear 
the Hawaiian with the gelled hair and gold chains. Is this book out now? I 
don't understand his obsession with sex on the internet though. And webcams. 
I had a webcam, but it got quite boring after the initial hundred pictures 
of pets. Sometimes I think my beloved is trying to make a connection with 
me. That's not HIM in the picture, is it? The handlebar moustacho so very 
different from little cherub gazing upon his accordion that I adored so many 
summers ago!
The tough Scottish boys and their 'like fuck' give me little giggle fits. I 
have visions of Keith Watson in a rocking chair by the fire, growling 'funny 
as fuck' 'flash as fuck' over and over. I don't have any sites to recommend 
to the Peacock, well, maybe Sinister Body Parts Page, as there is some 
naughty pictures and shoulder-girls with questionable lips.

I'm very happy that the Poetry Parrot has returned! I can still remember 
poems that Trousers posted long ago, they were so good, they became a little 
mantra for me when I went to the bookstore to pick out my friend's Christmas 
present...Duffy...Durcan...Dobyns. The poetry parrot didn't sit on me, but 
can I do one anyways? Need some Neruda sensuality to fight off the cold.
****
   I do not love you as if you were salt-rose, or topaz,
or the arrow of carnations the fire shoots off.
I love you as certain dark things are to be loved,
in secret, between the shadow and the soul.

I love you as the plant that never blooms
but carries in itself the light of hidden flowers;
thanks to your love a certain solid fragrance,
risen from the earth, lives darkly in my body.

I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where.
I love you straightforwardly, without complexities or pride;
so I love you because I know no other way

than this: where I does not exist, nor you,
so close that your hand on my chest is my hand
so close that your eyes close as I fall asleep
****

Oh yes, I am eager to say something about Dusty Springfield, but all I can 
add is that Guy Ritchie is making a movie about her, and he isn't using 
Madonna anymore, so who shall the actress be?

That 'Fall In A River' Badly Drawn Boy song, although only like a minute 
long, takes me to a happy place.

Exams finished today, I will certainly celebrate Burns night at Dunvegan 
pub.

Jason Andreas: Rubbing noses isn't so much a thrill, but rather a nice, 
comforting feeling, like the delicate innocence of a butterfly kiss.

love,
Genevieve
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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 19:22:17 2001
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:22:17 -0800
Subject: Sinister: sinister-kittenmouse radio on the internet
Message-ID: <F225PGNkY5TetpIuPHD00003074@hotmail.com>

Hello,
Here's a typical sinister opening...I was sitting at the computer 
contemplating whether to post something boring about my life and whatnot 
(still figuring out getting to Glasgow for art school this fall, etc etc) 
when I remembered that I HAVE to post something.  And it is pretty cool, 
although it involves getting up obscenely early on a tuesday morning for 
those in the UK.

Anyway, this is what I wanted to tell you...the radio station I work for 
just figured out how to stream out signal on the internet, so now you can 
listen to my show anywhere in the world.  It's in realaudio format on the 
website www.kpsu.org and the show I do (Kittenmouse Radio) is on every 
Monday night from 8-10 pm pacific standard time (add 2 hours for Chicago, 3 
hours New York, 8 hours UK, etc).  I would love it if some of you would 
listen...I have playlists on my message board at 
http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1136781 if you're curious to know what 
I play.  I've been busy with school lately, so I haven't had time to post 
playlists for the last few weeks, but it's still sort of representative.  So 
there...please listen and enjoy...and leave a message on my board or 
something if you like the show, ok?
Yours,
Andrea
p.s. we only broadcast from 5 pm til 2 am (pacific time) every day, so if 
you are interested to see what other shows are on the station, ya gotta wait 
til then.  there is a good show on tues night at 11 pm and friday at 5 pm 
though.
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From brier at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 19:27:32 2001
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:27:32 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Up your yellow river
Message-ID: <00da01c08704$ddbace00$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Well then;

Pee Miller claims there are no perfect pop moments.  But i think everyone
has their OWN perfect pop moment in their lives.  Mine was the day The Queen
Is Dead came out, listening to it on the turntable over & over, while
looking at the monochromatic grey-green gatefold photo of the four Smiths
standing, like Ramones who can read, outside the Salford Lads Club on the
corner of Coronation Street (a joke within a joke here).

And i hope he's kidding when he calls 69 Love Songs awful.  I'm gonna sing
two Mag Fields songs on stage next month.  I Don't Believe In The Sun, and
The Death Of Ferdinand de Saussure.  Wish me luck.

And if you're ever a tourist in a large city, never ever ever stand on the
sidewalk on your mobile phone, saying "well i'm at the corner of Walk and
Don't Walk."  People will laugh at you.  Not with you.  At you.

And i cried a bit, because no one told me that NELLY FURTADO (on whom i've
developed a slight crush) was on Saturday Night Live last week or two ago.
I think her record ("Whoa Nelly") is really the bee's knees too.  Does
anyone feel the same way who's got the guts to admit it?  I first admired
Mag Fields because they used the phrase "whoa nelly" in a song.  Now this
cutie-pie comes and names her whole album this.

Despite my tendency to fuck things up (hearts, etc, i can't help it) i do
have a tender side.  Certain things almost make me weep.  Like when my uncle
says:
"the price you pay for loving someone is that you will miss them when they
are not around".

Today's birthdays:   Robert Burns (dead Scottish poet); Dean Jones (star of
Disney films including Herbie The Love Bug); Virginia Woolf (dead writer).

Happy birthday to you too.

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From neil_milton at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 19:31:43 2001
From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:31:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Sylvia says the man can't sleep!
Message-ID: <20010125193143.78530.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>

hi,

I'm growing a beard.  I don't know why.

thanx to jason for his rather kind words on the
subject of... TROIKA!  (audience gasps!)

no, seriously...
The gig at the note went really well, and I think
(although the bass was too loud) we did ourselves
justice.

If anyone was there (to see us, or others) please
email me and tell me what you thought...

I always like to hear criticism (good or constructive
- never mindless slagging)

Anyway, CHEW ON PLECTRUMS!!!  Its a great pastime...

I have developed this art as a way to releave
nervousness!  It works!

--A SMALL PLUG...--
Troika.  I know we aren't at all like belle and
sebastian, owever I know a lot of people on this list
also enjoy stuff that is, well lets just say louder.
Any of you guys, or any others if you're feeling
adventurous, come along and see us anytime.
our influences range from... Idlewild, and the Gang of
four, to Mogwai, and Slint.

I won't plug the gigs cause that is going a bit far...
but check out the website in my signature for more
info...

--END OF PLUGGING--

I also have a rather pressing question...
does anyone know if the Gentle Waves are playing near
glasgow soon...?

anyway, I gotta go...

to anyone who knows me...

"now, now!  Settle!"

lots of love, and mad bubbles that u blow thru a hoop!
Neil

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From dontloveanyone at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 20:55:43 2001
From: dontloveanyone at xxx.com (Mike K)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:55:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: An introduction
Message-ID: <383085717.980456143502.JavaMail.root@web168-ec.mail.com>

Hey

well, hello, my name is Mike and i'm from Brazil. I've thought long and hard about what to write in my first post to sinister but now, faced with the reality of it, i'm left blank. None of the people I know have heard of or like B&S so the idea of corresponding with scores of people who do really appeals to me. Well, that's it for now, and with some luck (or not!) you'll all be hearing more for me from time to time. 

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From kitsapcd at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 21:06:48 2001
From: kitsapcd at xxx.com (Disc Go Round Bremerton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:06:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Gabba Gabba Hey!
Message-ID: <20010125210648.24602.qmail@web6302.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Sinister!
  Figured I should post lest I be labeled a lurker. 
Thanks to those who e-mailed to let me know that I was
not, in fact, the oldest member here.  Not that it
matters; just curious, that's all.
  So, strange things are happening around here.  My
birthday celebrations are going on all week (I am
loved!), and I haven't had to feed myself dinner yet! 
My latest tattoo is fully involved in the healing
process and itches with the white hot intensity of a
thousand suns.  Yesterday, I was able to participate
in a live webchat with Jim Reid (JAMC/Freeheat), who
some of you may remember is my number one obsession. 
Oh yeah--he soooo wants me!  Well, at least that's
what I choose to believe.  And I get to go see one of
my favorite live bands on Saturday in a continuation
of the birthday festivites.  Hell's Belles are an
all-girl AC/DC cover band, and they rock.  Wish you
could all see them.
  Lawrence Mikkelsen posted about his blinding
migraine pain.  I'm a migraine victim as well, and if
your headache is bad enough to keep you home, you have
two options: go to the hospital & get a shot of
Demerol (if you don't have any plans for the next 8
hours), or try to get a Vicodan pill from one of your
pill popping friends.  I have a doctor's appointment
next week for my migraines.  Good luck with yours.
  I have a question I'd like to pose to everyone, and
all responses would be appreciated:  is flirting a
talent one must be born with, or an art form one can
learn?  
  Oh, and Honey--if the tag line advertising the store
I work in is appearing at the bottom of my posts, I
swear I'm not soliciting business and abusing the
list.  I'm actually abusing my computer privileges at
work.  Please forgive me.
  Peace and Chicken Grease--
  Jen (jerkgirl)
  P.S. to the fellow (sorry I don't remember your
name) who looks "a little like Nick Cave"--it must
count for something!  I'd certainly turn around if I
saw you on the street, if for no other reason than to
say "Damn!  That guy looks like Nick Cave!"

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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 22:50:21 2001
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:50:21 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake smoking on the front of the boxset is Duffle-coat-tastic.
Message-ID: <LAW2-F1190VnkB4ltFl00000299@hotmail.com>

Hello.
I spent a good portion of tonight exercising my CD burner by copying all the 
Nick Drake albums for a lovely girl I know. And not only because I want her 
to succumb to my (dubious) charms, but because she's also grate, loves B&S 
and more people should hear the wondrous Monsieur D.

I had the Session In Scotland on at the same time, and everyone was being oh 
so cool as usual. I read FB's post about the Manics just as their new song 
came on. I thought it rather pish on first listen I must say. Thought they 
were meant to be returning to their ace punky B-side sound of yore, but it 
sounded like a bad Xmas record (TOO MUCH REVERB).

Well that's got feck all to do with B&S, but then what does at the mo? (If 
anyone has a spare Manics ticket for the Barras, tuesday, then I'd be 
delighted. They were sold out when I rang. boo hoo hoo.)

And then I'd made it to arch(ang)el's post about that Indian/Scottish song 
by thingymigig. And that came on the radio! It's quite nice and you can hear 
Struan's vulnerable choirboy tones floating above the hypnotic backing! 
Ooer.

JenOwl was on about Gregory's Girl, which is tops. It was on that 1981 
programme at the weekend. I like the chef guy in it, and Claire Grogan is 
infitely preferable to the rather aloof Dee Hepburn. And Happy Birthday is a 
bluddy grate P!O!P! moment. As is Kids in America (Woah Oh!)
Dangermouse was a tremendous nostalgia moment as well.

I looked at said Ms Owl's website and it's dead funny. I was merrily 
quaffing Ribena and wearing my duffel coat this week when I went to my first 
council meeting.
Most of the councillors are old and mokeish and one 40 something woman 
started flirting with me saying "Oh what a handsome young man." Filthy old 
slattern.
So I gave her my card.

Did anyone else notice under Heather's Weather on Reporting Scotland, it 
said Burn's night. What a glaring error! Robert Burn! I don't think.
(Get a life, Iain)
See yis later, aye.
fuckin' eccies 'n' that (A Gadjee)
Iain
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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Jan 25 23:37:36 2001
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:37:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: ringing around the proverbial rosie
Message-ID: <F32TX5V3GykBbKP7Ie800000851@hotmail.com>

clap yr hands, the self-appointed list dom has emerged from
the box of her silence to do her list dom thing which entails
nothing more than hushed whispering dirty to the buttoned up
and scarved society of sinister...

been busy and bad deleting posts left and right (hand check)
so formal apologies to all those i may have offended in my own
busy-handed way...

busy with what you all wonder (or i'd like to think you do, so i
shut my eyes and will it and behold it happens thanks to neitzsche and
all his thus spaking zarathustra)...
busy knocking up against my ex's empty stomach...and allowing him to indugle 
in exterting his power-tripping wrath upon me so i look like a fool in 
diners with our collective group of drunken fighting and phallic obsessed 
friends...
busy hiding my step-sis and her jailbait boyfriend from the cops
b/c "we don't speak pig-latin" (and then comes the mag-light across the 
forehead and we apologize profusely and confess "yes, that was never a good 
thing to say to a man of the law like yrself, officer")...
busy debating after hours strip-teases on the table at the bar for a nice 
and healthy price that instantly perks my sensitive parts...
busy falling in and out of love with my principles of litereary analysis
prof who oozes the kind of character that makes him a literary sex-symbol
with a list of credentials that i'd like to wrap tight around my
thighs and stomach like garland...
busy making long distance threats and building up an immunity to the men i 
love...

nothing to hoot and hollar about this time around...the cement walls
of various basements have heard enough of that from me the past few 
weeks...even list doms need voice rest...(where is that shiver me timbers
jeff burke: i'm silent are you going to make me walk the plank?)

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                                               you are...



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From ryanbthat at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 01:07:53 2001
From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:07:53 -0800
Subject: Sinister: titillating? oh yes, very...
Message-ID: <LAW2-F74XM7e0C9guA8000003e5@hotmail.com>

Ms. Morrison, that subject line is for you. Obligatory semi-relevant 
content: 'Talking dirty for a hobby that's alright', but some people make a 
pretty good living that way. When I first heard that song I misheard harpy 
for hobby. Works pretty well either way, don't you think?

Jen at the Disc Go Round said:

I have a question I'd like to pose to everyone, and
all responses would be appreciated:� is flirting a
talent one must be born with, or an art form one can
learn?

Perhaps this will seem a clich�d answer but I think comparing it to an art 
is quite apt. I think some people are born with it and some not.  Those who 
are not blessed with the talent can become skilled but will never be as good 
as those who are, while there is a particularly unfortunate subset of the 
human race that will remain forever tone deaf (switching from art to music 
now, mixing metaphors is IN for 2001).

Like artists though, there are some that are overly blessed, so much so that 
they cannot help but create (or be suggestive, are you listening Ms. 
Morrision?) with their every move and word.  This can sometimes be a 
detriment to the rest of their lives, flirting savants who have no control 
over their virtuosity at stirring the libidos of those around them. A most 
enviable tragedy.

By the by now, Jen you are not alone in the ranks of American 
Northwesterners as Miss Kittenmouse resides in Portland and I myself am 
writing from Seattle. So that's 3 already!

And Mr. Neil growing a beard for no apparent reason.  I've grown a few in my 
time and they have all been for a reason.  I've done it  to experiment with 
being less attractive, because I couldn't get at any hot water or, a few 
times, the ever-popular and very telling Just-Broke-Up-With-My-Girlfriend 
Beard. The funny thing was when I once kept a beard for four months after an 
equal length relationship which was twice how long I wore it following a 
two-year relationship.  Behavior is psychology, listen to your beard, it is 
trying to tell you something.

So, that is the extent of my wisdom, but before I go I'll share a story 
about the time that I was working at a hotel in Devon and a large work party 
came and I wound up getting nekkid with them in the sauna and how much it 
impressed me that the British, traditionally thought of as so reserved, were 
so uninhibited and how the work retreat I am going on tomorrow probably has 
no such potential because Americans, let's face it, are prudes.  I'll 
probably be the only one to get properly drunk even.

miss me,

rinaldo

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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 03:11:40 2001
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:11:40 -0500
Subject: Sinister: burned
Message-ID: <F35tAEHLB8TrBHxvZ9a0000067f@hotmail.com>

Ohhh...haven't posted in ages, and then I post twice in a row!
I'm very angry, as I went to the Dunvegan and was carded by man in a golf 
hat on a power trip. Oh, it's not like it was the 200th anniversary of his 
birthday or anything! I imagaine all the fantastical events that are 
happening at this moment, and I feel left out. At least the tiny little 
Irish pub took us in, and at least I could drink.
The last post I just read was debasting about the art of flirting vs natural 
born talent. I guess it should be so smooth you do not even know you are 
being flirted, although it is a nice, flattering touch if they are sad 
artists who cry out they must paint you. It is so easy to be a sucker in 
that case! The other thing I wonder is, do some people have natural born 
freak magnets or does it just happen that way? I've had underwear stolen, 
been hit in the head with a porn magazine, chased on lots of bike, forced 
reading of Paris Match, all by strangers, and for why, I wonder? How do they 
know you are acceptable of the weirdness? Belle and Sebastian Content: The 
weird man I do want to chase me is Peacock Johnson, alias Stuart David. But 
he reamins hidden from me, always. Is he going to do a book tour?

xxx genevieve
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From zutroy at xxx.org  Fri Jan 26 04:47:24 2001
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:47:24 -0600
Subject: Sinister: if you're looking for a way out
Message-ID: <p05001900b696aa6c1eda@[63.50.15.23]>

hello sinister
i've decided to come out of hiding for several reasons.

reason #1: if i may be so bold, i'd like to say that "swing your cock 
around" is hilarious. thank you, mark waudby. i had my own addition 
earlier today, but i forgot it. all i can come up with is "screwing 
other people," which really isn't that clever, now is it? there's 
always "you made me forget my panties," which isn't so great, either. 
sorry. how about "if you're feeling my sister"? the problem is, so 
many of them are dirty out of context already. case in point: the boy 
with the arab strap, don't leave the light on, baby, me and the major 
(or, as once misheard, "me and the midget), seeing other people, judy 
is a dick slap, and the list goes on and on and on and on . . . and 
you can only insert "wanking" into so many before it gets old.

reason #2: i'm so disillusioned. do you want to know why i'm 
disillusioned? because i saw a chrysler ad tonight playing the jesus 
and mary chain's "happy when it rains". bah, that sucks.

reason #3: tonight while walking my dog (why does this always make me 
want to post?) i decided to wear my nifty faux fur coat and since the 
only shoes by the door were my platform boots, i wore those, too. so 
what could i listen to but gary glitter "do you wanna touch me 
there," which has a perfect glam R!A!W!K! beat for walking in 
platform boots while wearing a faux fur coat. but then, oh then, i 
forgot that the next song on my mp3 player is tindersticks "if you're 
looking for a way out" which was bad enough being so depressing (yet 
so good, i couldn't skip through it), but it made me miss school. 
well, it made me miss driving from western massachusetts to 
philadelphia via the bronx because the last time i did that i was 
stuck in this nasty nasty traffic and that song (actually, that whole 
album) played while i sat in my car, occasionally creeping forward a 
few yards. so that made me miss my friend steve, from school. you 
see, some time before that steve had a tumultuous relationship with a 
girl who worked in the aquatic birds area of the bronx zoo. so, 
sitting in my car, listening to sad love songs, right next to the 
exit for the zoo, i was about 3 micrometers away from getting off the 
highway, finding the zoo, and kicking her ass for being so mean to 
him. so i wanted to post to sinister to vent. so now i have.

reason #4: i'm happy, because people i work with like belle and 
sebastian. the only problem is, they have no clue what i'm talking 
about when i say "twattybus," because they're not on sinister, and i 
forget that sometimes. so then i feel awkward and dumb and that's 
really too bad. and i'm mad at the NME (am i the only person who 
realizes that if you say "NME" fast enough it sounds like "enemy"? 
i've been meaning to mention that to somebody somewhere for years) 
for making remarks about belle and sebastian not having put out an 
album in a long time. what?!?! was i dreaming when they put out 
FYHCYWLAP last spring? did i sleep for several years or something? 
ahhhhhh, fuck 'em.
here's a joke: a man and a woman are at a party, having a nice 
conversation. somehow the conversation turns to beekeeping. the man 
says "oh, i keep bees." the woman says "really? where do you keep 
them?" "in my apartment," he says. "in your apartment?" the woman 
says, astonished. "where do you keep them in your apartment? you were 
just saying that you live in some cramped studio in manhattan." "i 
keep them in my closet," the man says. "in your closet?! that can't 
be good for the bees," the woman says. so, the man responds: "fuck 
'em, i hate bees."
i love that joke.

and even without the joke, this post took me well over 15 minutes to write.
oh, and last but not least, i love you honey, for being so good at everything.

you've made me forget my dreams, for at least a little while,
-kerry
-- 

  "`Cos in my sleep I still clench my teeth
I'm at my strongest only when I'm weak"
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 05:43:13 2001
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:43:13 EST
Subject: Sinister: The Day of Atonement...
Message-ID: <66.b8bcf6c.27a26871@aol.com>

Ladies and Gentlemen,

In a mere 65 odd hours from this time, the Great American Sporting Event 
known as the SUPER BOWL will take place in Tampa Bay, Florida.  It is not 
your average Super Bowl, however, for the BALTIMORE RAVENS are to be playing 
against the lame-ass new york giants (all lowercase, mind you).  The Great 
Metropolis of the World against the city that ranks first only in cases of 
HIV, STDs, number of heroin addicts and murder rate.  Yes, we as a community 
are quite despicable, but the BALTIMORE RAVENS will help us rise above that 
and plant a foot firmly up the arse of everything NYC stands for, namely, 
class, money and culture.  It will be a titanic struggle for supremecy, and I 
urge everyone, everywhere to tune and watch it (even if its just for the 
commercials).  It shall be sweet, and New Yorkers...you have been warned. 
I've been keeping my distance from a certain girl for whom I pined away quite 
visibly for (but who decided she'd rather be alone) and I have started to get 
my mojo working again.  I don't feel all shitty or want to get drunk 
everytime I think of her now, and I was quite happy that I could finally say 
to her everything that I had been planning for months.  Then, I saw a picture 
of her on a friend's wall tonight and all those urges to make hot, sloppy, 
passionate, toe-curling, back-scratching, love to her on the beach at dawn 
came back tenfold.  Its basically been reduced to a physical attraction, but 
Ye Gads! it is enough to move the mountains.  She more or less said she feels 
the exact same way (physical attraction, not much else there) so I'm hoping 
one night when we've had a little too much to drink and are left to our own 
devices........  
I've decided to pimp it up this SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, but worse come to worse, 
I've got a nice little bottle of Southern Comfort to soothe the wounds of 
being ignored.  We'll see what happens...
I think I've had a little too much to drink...oh yeah, I turned 21 last 
Saturday so thats pretty much been the case this whole week.  God bless 
Italians with beautiful breasts...
Droppin' bombs on your moms...

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From Mark at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 09:24:51 2001
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:24:51 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Tompaulin were on radio 1 yesterday, yes they were
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D3A3C@SERVER1>

Go on, then.

I see Pinefox's regular-as-cockwork posts as a subliminal message for me to
post more often. No, I do! So, I will. Well, I may. The re-emergence of the
Archel and the continued dominance of the JenOwl means that I'll have to
right some pretty top-hole material, but hey. I can do it.

I haven't listened to Belle and Sebastian in a month or so, but they're
still there. So is Dame Maggie F, who I seem to have converted an alarming
number of people to recently. My head is currently awash with bits and bobs
of songs I hadn't really liked before from 69 L*** S***s, Lucy's wallflowers
which bloomed spectacularly on the night. I'm looking forward to re-living
the two night of the concert in the comfort of my own home. Not too soon,
mind.

Ms Alder managed to get a huge response just by talking, indirectly, about
tits. I wonder if talking about John Thomases would have the same kind of
reaction? I was utterly thrilled to discover that recent research has proved
that Brazilian men have penises on average over 2 centimetres longer than
American men. 2 centimetres! And Brazilians aren't particularly large,
either. So I've heard. Unlike Italians :-)

I think I need to wash my hands.

Mark xxx


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From pastel_auricular at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 13:01:49 2001
From: pastel_auricular at xxx.com (Dante Dethrone)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 05:01:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: the walk of a peacock, the crimson of grey matter, & JenOwl gets stoned.
Message-ID: <20010126130149.2609.qmail@web11902.mail.yahoo.com>

 
salutations,

     well, and what about the 'peacock thingy'?  it
seems to me Mr David is merely indulging himself in
the little sport of reinvention.  and what's wrong
with the occasional reinventing of one's self?  sure,
certain people might find it queer, but if he were to
remain the same, and put out the same pile day in and
day out as if to please his brother or sister, he
might just get bored.  i encourage everyone to refrain
from neglecting themselves.  vent if you gotta ... 
curse if you wanna ...  *disclaimer:  er, this isn't
really my opinion; it's more of an insomniacal vantage
from my current state of mind.  that is, i might think
differently tomorrow.  what about yourself?

     as i've implied, i haven't slept for quite some
time now.  i'm not sure how long it's been, nor do i
really care, and i doubt that you really care either,
but at this moment the fluid between my skull and my
brain seems to be exuding with a magnetic tickling
sensation.  although i like it way much, i wonder to
myself, 'hmm ...  my brain bleeding?'  i can stare at
the wallpaper and watch the flowers lean side to side;
and with the slightest bit of concentration they begin
to meander in an upward climb of the vine they're
drawn against.  i suspect that it's got a lot to do
with the old LSD excursions, well, i know it does.  i
no longer do drugs, but apparently they still do me.

*JenOwl wrote:  "But this is how I figured I'm damned
........ I went through the crowd, and they all 
started jeering and spitting at me, and throwing
stones and chips and things at me, until I was well
clear.  And the Jesus man just laughed and watched,
then started talking again.  He didn't say anything
like, 'Jesus wouldn't be too pleased if you threw
things and spat on someone.'  He just laughed and went
right on talking about the apostles and how bluddy
grate they were all supposed to be."

     i wonder what she was wearing.  nevermind that. 
this passage from the book of JenOwl reminds me of old
times.  when i used to walk the halls of high school
between rows of hissing self-proclaimed christians, i
saw clearly.  when i used to rise up from the ground
after getting beaten to a bloody pulp, i heard God. 
when the major cliques of the schoolyard drug my name
through the mud, i emerged clean.  i doubt Jesus is
neither pleased nor displeased with such people.  i
doubt he even knows of them.  

     anywayz, i'm looking forward to chatting with
some of you soon ...  once i gather the nerve to log
on.  i'll probably have a s/n with color in it. ex:
pink_lip, purple_punch, dead_red, white_dyke,
orange_porn, green_gulliver, violet_fuck-up ...  you
get the idea. later peepz.

(shoots self with finger)
jeremy 





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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Fri Jan 26 17:04:22 2001
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:04:22 +0000
Subject: Sinister: just a quick one...
Message-ID: <3A71AE16.D790F8C1@ruskin.ac.uk>

to tell you that the soundalikes idea
went down very well, and the list now
lives at:

http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve

unsurprisingly

and there are lots and lots and lots,
from the Offspring to elton john and
Kiki Dee.  

It's home time now and having just got
over last nite's hangover i'm going back
to the pub in an hour or so...

Tales of Marilyn Manson next week

xoxo
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From joefri714 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 17:55:35 2001
From: joefri714 at xxx.com (*Boygirlorder *)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:55:35 -0000
Subject: Sinister: the SHORTEST post ive ever made
Message-ID: <F83B8TrBHxvZ9aZ1i6b000010b9@hotmail.com>

hello all you wonderful lads and lasses out there in sini-world. this will 
be a short post because it actually has a purpose....wow...fancy that.  the 
purpose: find out if any member of the sinister list will be in attendance 
at the magnetic fields show tonight in new brunswick new jersey, 
secondly-----> to get said possible listees/attendees to converse with me in 
person using the standard equipment(i.e. voice box, larynx....this does not 
mean that if you have had a trachiotomy i will not speak to you, 
well.....yes it does, you prolly sound like a robot and robots scare 
me)......the means: this email.

if you WILL be there and would like to talk to me....my piccy is on the 
people page and my name is mark. i will be wearing what i am wearing 
now...which is: cords, shoes, shirts.  a blue dickies shirt over a blue and 
red striped wheres waldo turtleneck...i also might be wearing my coat...its 
blue and has a little K! records pin in it....anyway...i bet no one is there 
anyway...and if they are they wont talk to me....you fuckers.....nah  I LOVE 
YOU


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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 17:27:36 2001
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:27:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: these tarpaulins, as they were called, seemed a strange and half-savage race
Message-ID: <001901c087c2$71c7d260$7c9e01d5@com>

Dear Sinister,

you might remember me, I used to post here a little while ago. In fact, I
used to have the kind of presence that Jenowl now commands in her own
special way. I used to have pink tights & the perks of rural living & gin,
she's got rainbow tights & Ribena & a frequent kicking. I still try to keep
up with you, so far as I can (bear). These days I'm more indie-dirtying than
Indie Darling.

Today, I find myself wincing slightly at the mention of Tompaulin. It takes
me back to last October. This Tarpaulin outfit played the Scalarama event on
a rainy Saturday in Kings Cross. This event had been hijacked and re-named
Erica's Birthday Party. So, effectively, Tarpaulin played at my birthday
party. They are not terrible, more so...what someone expects for that kind
of thing; the usual low-key clattertwang din. Like Kicker, Sportique, or any
other band Rachel Stevenson mentions in her internet diary.

The next day, as I dabbed at the stains on my navy day jacket with Vanish, a
hungover head and a toothache prevailing, the good-looking young man lying
in my bed points out that Tarpaulin have been tooted The Best New Band In
Britain by overweight Indie mongrel Ben Clancy. There are mentions of the
words 'soulful' and 'lively' in his article on them in the programme to the
event. I gave up with the Vanish and furiously batted at the jacket with a
wire brush. I rip the programme to shreds and declare my birthday ruined.
Now they're being played on Radio One, and I'm still not famous for doing
nothing.

Blast.

I was recently ejected from a last-call of models for a photoshoot of
antique clothing for a Japanese magazine because I was considered "too sexy"

I went out last night to see a French band called Phoenix with that dandy
and do-gooder Nicolas Horne. Phoenix have good French synth solos and bad
French hair. At time of press, I owe Nicolas perhaps five glasses of wine.
Alex from Baxendale was in attendance, and I can give you the latest scoop
from the Bax 24-hour Mini-massive: Baxendale will collaborate with Puff
Daddy, Britney Spears, Lil Kim and Belle and Sebastian in
their forthcoming track GHETTO FABULOUS.

Pinefox wondered where the Blur fans on this list had gone of late. I've got
my dirty hands on the latest underground Blur demo. The heighlight is
provided by Damon singing 'I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts' in a Ragga
style, with Shaznay from All Saints guesting on percussion by repeatedly
slapping Damon's bare bottom with a pilchard.

Pamela Tait's got a soft spot for Fred Durst. Is is the way he thrusts his
tiny combat-clad penis at the camera in the video for Rollin'?

http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossiplimpbizkit.html

That's enough for now, you lameo James fans.

Erica
x

P.s Faux-Fur is for Pussies.

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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Fri Jan 26 18:11:03 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:11:03 +0000
Subject: Sinister: i was starving hungry in tescos...
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100aa8f71005b8ff100aa8f71.aa9877@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

so i scoffed down a packet of domino's...

i was stood up earlier today and had to sit down. i have been sat down for hours now, it's
something to do. 

while i was sat down i dreamt my chair was Sir Jimmy Saville's chair from Jim'll fix it , but when
i woke up it wasn't and i was sad.

Last night i went to see starslior who sucked, Alfie who mostly sucked but had a couple of decent
songs and amen who were terrible, so  i left halfway through thier set and missing jj72 as a result
which i'm glad about.  All i can say is i'm glad i didn't pay to get in. 

I was walking round cole brothers today looking for a satchel which didn't exist i dont think they
exist anywhere in the world! if anyone does know where you can buy them let me know... anyway i was
walking round cole brothers and i some how ended up in the gardening department staring at
terracota pots, there were so many.... there were too many.

when i came outside from my lusting after terracota pots it was raining and as a result i forgot to
go and buy my ryan adams ticket. oh well i can't see ryan adams selling out how many people have
haerd of him and whiskytown? not many would be my bet.
corpartion tonight. RAWK! RAWK! RAWK!

so that was my day, i bet your all glad i told you about it aren't you ? no ? well fine.

nigel love

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From pinefox1 at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 19:11:13 2001
From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:11:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Like Marmite, Like Fertilizer
Message-ID: <20010126191113.11677.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com>


Edna returned, and had nothing to say save about that
Hurst stuff. Welthorpe (la), the world of loggers and
theatregoers is hanging on your every other word! Pick
up the pace here! I mean, when la Welthorpe last
posted to sinister, those were different times. The
boy Cook was still at 'school'. Sabre-toothed tigers
roamed the land. Emile Heskey was coming into form, or
going out of it. Can't remember. Christmas was coming.
Orton hadn't been revived, but plans were afoot.
George W. Bush was a simian right-winger. Belle and
Sebastian were due to appear on a Xmas record.
chickfactor was produced in New York. Papercuts was
produced. Was it?
I'm not sure. So, the thing is, people have been
rattling on about the Welthorpe situation ever since
that first Bracknellesque intervention. They want
more.

MacArthur returned, and said something like 'They're
not terrible, more so'. That sounded apt; I'm not 100%
sure whether she meant it or not; I liked what she
said about generic clattery bands on somebody's
'website', anyway.

Casarotto returned, and I wondered where he'd been,
and why the Pinefox made him think of 'cocks'. That
seemed unfair to me. A low blow, in fact. Plus, why
does Cazza not want to relive the concerts in his home
soon? Did the smoking-jacket put him off?

I'm still toying with this soundtrack thing. The
trouble is, their people and my people. It's about,
you know, money. That's the trouble when you start
dealing with money - there's just so much *money*
involved. When it's involved, that's when you feel
your money.

Anyway, I thought that this next bit could benefit
from a duet by la Welthorpe and Casarotto, perhaps
singing 'Put A Little Love In Your Heart' (Al Green /
Annie Lennox, 12.88; hm, what was that record actually
called, again?) on the jukebox in the background. What
d'you reckon?


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JOE                     What do you think would happen
                        if I got him a
professional�you                         know�

BILL                    A professional?

JOE                     Hooker. You know, the kind
that
                        can teach things�first-timers,
                        you know�break him in.

BILL                    But Joe, he's 11.

JOE                     You're right, you're right.
                        It's too late. He is�what he  
                        is. Forget I said anything.

BILL                    Maybe you ought to discuss it 
                        with Betty.

JOE                     I can't. I can't talk to her.

BILL                    Hmm. That's a problem.

JOE                     Things aren't too good between
                        us�

BILL                    Not too good.

JOE                     No.

Pause.

BILL                    Are you�?

JOE                     No.

(a beat)
                        She's a dyke.

BILLY and JOHNNY approach.

BILLY                   Dad, can Johnny sleep over    
                        tonight?

BILL                    Well, that's up to Joe here.

JOE                     (pause) Sure. Whatever.

JOHNNY AND BILLY        Yeah!!!

JOHNNY and BILLY hold each other as they jump for joy.

JOE                     (to himself) Like girls.



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From schrasj at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 19:45:04 2001
From: schrasj at xxx.com (Graham LeBron)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:45:04 
Subject: Sinister: George Washington opens in the bay area this weekend!
Message-ID: <F22xpiSVi5cvhENIZqA000025ab@hotmail.com>

Hey sinisters,

I've been lurking for quite some time, but now
I just have to tell you about this amazing movie that my childhood friend 
directed, it's opening in the bay area this weekend, but it's been 
played/playing other places too. Has anyone seen it?
The closest comparison I can make is stand by me meets gummmo with a 
beautiful palace-y sndtrk...

Shot in luscious Cinemascope, it's about some kids in rural North Carolina 
and while it is funny at times, it's not a kid's movie. Beautiful like 
Malick and charming like a Faulkner story, it is indie but it sure ain't 
"Clerks".
Hollywood could learn a lot from it about how kids really act.
But, if you don't want to take my word for it....

GEORGE WASHINGTON (it ain't about the president)
(Directed by David Gordon Green)

The New York Times -- Elvis Mitchell #2 film of 2000!
Time Magazine's #3 film of 2000!
Roger Ebert's #5 film of 2000!
Best Picture nominee @ independent spirit awards

opens this Friday, Jan. 26th
Berkeley, CA - at the UC Theater (3 days ONLY!)
Fri @ 5,7,9, Sat&Sun @ 1,3,5,7,9

Mill Valley, CA - at the Rafael Film Center(1 week only)
Fri @ 6:45, Sat @ 9:30, Sun @3:45,9 Mon-Thurs @ 9

San Fransisco, CA - at the Lumiere theater(1 week ONLY)
Fri-Thurs @ 12:30, 2:45, 5, 7:15, 9:30

for more info check out www.youandwhatarmy.net

"Best Film of the Year. Irresistable, Authentic and wonderful. In recent
film history there has been no greater Achievement." -- Armond White, New
York Press

"A Haunting Story... a bold stylistic achievement... One of this years
really special films." -- Rober Ebert

"Brilliant! The year's most fascinating indie. A word-of-mouth must-see" --
J. Hoberman, Village Voice

"Stunning... Extraordinary! A work of startling originality that will haunt
you for a good long time." -- Peter Travers, Rolling Stone

"A Dream of a movie! It could be a fairy tale by Faulkner.. lovely and
inviting... bursting with talent... This may be the best photographed film
of the year." -- Elvis Mitchell, The New York Times

"Like no movie I have ever seen. It's simply in a word, great." -- Ray
Pride, Chicago New City

Thanks for your support!

Love,

golden g r a m
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From shiplore at xxx.com  Fri Jan 26 20:27:33 2001
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:27:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: these tarpaulins, as they were called, seemed a strange and half-savage race
Message-ID: <F2486HHGNZ4mF1IT18o00001485@hotmail.com>

ah...erica. nice to hear from you again. I had a dream a few months back in 
which you and lisa-suddenlyshy- morrison were major players
this was particularly strange cause the setting kept changing from Covent 
Garden to a rural blair-witch woodsy setting.

sinisterines fess up whom amoungest us HAS NOT been kicked off/out of things 
for being "too sexy"

I mean surely.

My male modeling career was derailed with the discovery of my third 
testicle. Damn closeups.
I feel fred durst's pain. I really do.

I think it's been a long week.

I did however recieve two posts this week in the evening mail which made my 
year. I got two pictures of my grandfather back in WWII. He looking like the 
swashbuckling mick/american that he was. It was quite touching, one of his 
friends from the war sent them to me.

the other was an extensive letter from yet another of my grandpa's wartime 
friends who wrote 8 pages (even with crippling arthritis) telling me of his 
experience with my granddad. It was really nice since i didnt' really get a 
chance to know him when he was alive.

well. that's all for now.
jb
(yet to actually have B&S content)


>From: "Erica MacArthur" <Macarthur at xxx.com>
>Reply-To: "Erica MacArthur" <Macarthur at btinternet.com>
>To: <sinister at missprint.org>
>Subject: Sinister: these tarpaulins, as they were called, seemed a strange 
>and half-savage race
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:27:36 -0000
>
>Dear Sinister,
>
>you might remember me, I used to post here a little while ago. In fact, I
>used to have the kind of presence that Jenowl now commands in her own
>special way. I used to have pink tights & the perks of rural living & gin,
>she's got rainbow tights & Ribena & a frequent kicking. I still try to keep
>up with you, so far as I can (bear). These days I'm more indie-dirtying 
>than
>Indie Darling.
>
>Today, I find myself wincing slightly at the mention of Tompaulin. It takes
>me back to last October. This Tarpaulin outfit played the Scalarama event 
>on
>a rainy Saturday in Kings Cross. This event had been hijacked and re-named
>Erica's Birthday Party. So, effectively, Tarpaulin played at my birthday
>party. They are not terrible, more so...what someone expects for that kind
>of thing; the usual low-key clattertwang din. Like Kicker, Sportique, or 
>any
>other band Rachel Stevenson mentions in her internet diary.
>
>The next day, as I dabbed at the stains on my navy day jacket with Vanish, 
>a
>hungover head and a toothache prevailing, the good-looking young man lying
>in my bed points out that Tarpaulin have been tooted The Best New Band In
>Britain by overweight Indie mongrel Ben Clancy. There are mentions of the
>words 'soulful' and 'lively' in his article on them in the programme to the
>event. I gave up with the Vanish and furiously batted at the jacket with a
>wire brush. I rip the programme to shreds and declare my birthday ruined.
>Now they're being played on Radio One, and I'm still not famous for doing
>nothing.
>
>Blast.
>
>I was recently ejected from a last-call of models for a photoshoot of
>antique clothing for a Japanese magazine because I was considered "too 
>sexy"
>
>I went out last night to see a French band called Phoenix with that dandy
>and do-gooder Nicolas Horne. Phoenix have good French synth solos and bad
>French hair. At time of press, I owe Nicolas perhaps five glasses of wine.
>Alex from Baxendale was in attendance, and I can give you the latest scoop
>from the Bax 24-hour Mini-massive: Baxendale will collaborate with Puff
>Daddy, Britney Spears, Lil Kim and Belle and Sebastian in
>their forthcoming track GHETTO FABULOUS.
>
>Pinefox wondered where the Blur fans on this list had gone of late. I've 
>got
>my dirty hands on the latest underground Blur demo. The heighlight is
>provided by Damon singing 'I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts' in a Ragga
>style, with Shaznay from All Saints guesting on percussion by repeatedly
>slapping Damon's bare bottom with a pilchard.
>
>Pamela Tait's got a soft spot for Fred Durst. Is is the way he thrusts his
>tiny combat-clad penis at the camera in the video for Rollin'?
>
>http://www.groupiecentral.com/gossiplimpbizkit.html
>
>That's enough for now, you lameo James fans.
>
>Erica
>x
>
>P.s Faux-Fur is for Pussies.
>
>http://welcome.to/houseofscarlet
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From jonathan.skinner at xxx.net  Fri Jan 26 20:27:11 2001
From: jonathan.skinner at xxx.net (jonathan skinner)
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:27:11 +0000
Subject: Sinister: it's camp...you know tragically ludicrous , ludicrously
    tragic-------ohh like when a clown dies
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From lutin at xxx.net  Fri Jan 26 20:33:26 2001
From: lutin at xxx.net (Lutin)
Date: 26 Jan 2001 12:33:26 -0800
Subject: Sinister: George Washington opens in the bay area this weekend!
References: <F22xpiSVi5cvhENIZqA000025ab@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c087d7$3d6ac620$08f182d0@rachel22>

George Washington (2000) sounds like a 'must-see' pour moi.
Interesting that the only user comment on IMDb is " a deeply
confusing movie."  
http://us.imdb.com/Details?0262432

One might suspect that this may involve what D.H. Lawrence
would call the growth of 'instinctive-intuitive consciousness' at
the expense of the 'Puritan spiritual-mental consciousness.'
I just happened to be currently reading about that in his "Rainbow" 
and "Phoenix."

       Lutin 


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From littleblackfox at xxx.com  Sat Jan 27 14:00:42 2001
From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:00:42 -0000
Subject: Sinister: cutting through the creche with safety scissors
Message-ID: <F71Yx3G5aYY61LEdyt300000377@hotmail.com>

hey biscuit-eaters,

well here I am again, back from my adventures. Life seems to be flinging all 
kinds of crap my way, and I'm having moments where I lose my faith in 
humanity. Fortunatly I've had a mike to cuddle and comfort me, as well as 
monty the bipedal cat (it's a toy cat- not the one from the bacardi ads!)to 
squeeze...
my greatest pleasure has been star wars episode 1 biscuits, they're 
chocolate coated and tiiiny! i like eating jar jar binks best (after 
drowning him in tea first) and have banned mike from eating darth maul (for 
fear that he might do damage on his way down!)

off to see granddaddy at the leadmill tonight, but first we're going to see 
haley joel osment perform random acts of kindness (that was MY idea!!) to 
people.

must go...
jules

ps: b&s conent:i miss stuart and his ink polaroids. whens the new book out, 
and is it the continuing adventures of a ginger gardener who puts far too 
much faith in what his aunt said?
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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Sat Jan 27 18:05:12 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:05:12 +0000
Subject: Sinister: like a cat litter tray
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100aaab5d005b8ff100aaab5d.aaab81@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

so ronnie says do this job, and he forces me do this job becuase i owed him some money from
decorating, and it got a bit messy and i'm not proud of it really.

I am in so much pain, i have pulled a muscle or tendon in my foot through dancing and jumping about
in the corpartion last night. the pain pain. 

Todays been really cool, first off, i got to spend the day recording with my band even though i had
to hoble across sheffield in great pain and was two hours late for the session.  

secondley, i have just come back from watching Grandaddy sound check at the leadmill ! they were in
top form but to sound check they just played loads of b sides. i  saw that jules was going to the
leadmill tonight as well, i don't know jules but i'll take a sign with me, a bit like sign guy from
dudley boys only i'm not fat or an ECW wrestler. 

i watched a drunk tramp fall over on the tram today he was wearing a pair of sandels and grey socks
witch had dryed crusty mud on the outside, and boy did he smell he smelled loads like a cats litter
tray, i had to get off before my stop it was so bad. i was soppused to be  interviewing elbow right
now but my foot was hurting too much and the tour manager who was dead freindley said i would have
to wait half an hour. so i thought nah and left my friend to do the interview.

while i may have got a terrible injury to my foot last night i also found out that i'm going to be
djing at the casbah in sheffield!!!!! i'm so happy,  a mixture of lo fi indie and alt country.
Cool.  its going to be on wednesdays i think starting in a couple of weeks....

so so happy about that, anyway better go and strap my foot in bandages.... i might draw a beared on
as its too late to grow one... Grandaddy here i come.

Nigel Love

ps no daydreams today.

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From littleblackfox at xxx.com  Sat Jan 27 21:56:12 2001
From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:56:12 -0000
Subject: Sinister: a quick note re a sinisterine called Nal
Message-ID: <F108pI7DqYFOYf2PXvp000052bd@hotmail.com>

just to add quickly...
should anyone have the opportunity, they should love, cuddle, adore and 
revere Nal, who has saved me from my current homeless situation, and also 
has a cute ickle bunny wabbit.

I'm gonna go make a happypack for her, coz she's GRATE!
jules
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From ava60 at xxx.com  Sat Jan 27 23:36:46 2001
From: ava60 at xxx.com (Ava Arsaga)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:36:46 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F39Dba3om9G8sYsMBpN00005084@hotmail.com>

OH DEAR LORD took me exactly two hours and twenty-seven minutes to finally 
read ALL of the posts crammed up in my inbox...seriously, that is quite a 
few posts to come about (58) in only three days....seriously...well, mabye 
not if you consider the number of "members". Well anyway...i cant think on 
much to say now that i can allow myself to say something....I've been 
tediously studying for the ACT's..Yaach..i hate this....I have lost my 
cd's..officially...i hate this i hate this i hate this....every single one 
of my cd's except tigermilk which was left in my cd player...i hate 
this....my collection of b&s was nearly complete....all of my cd's  
GONE...goddamnit...i've only just now come to terms with the fact that im 
never going to find them cleaning my room or something....ooh well. i guess 
ill have to start again...best if one doesn't get too attached to material 
things...ooh Maude...its so hard though.. well, to all the  intelligent 
people who responded to my email on pen-pals, letters are in the mail and 
thanks to those who have already sent me letter...esp Craig..thank you for 
the candy....Well...this post is useless.
Take care,
ava
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From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 03:55:09 2001
From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Chickfactor, 90 day men, kicking giant, bowlie list, and other wonderful things..
Message-ID: <20010128035509.22541.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com>

hiya everyone,

     well, another weekend of great record findings,
and a little B+S content as well.  First let me just
gloat about some of the jems i picked up this
weekend... The new 90 day men CD, an incredible
off-kilter, dynamic, furious band from Chicago, a
MUST!  The black Dice 7" from Gravity (oohhh, scary!),
 the Cannanes international pop underground 7" for
$1.00!!, the delux packaged "promo" version of Halo by
Kicking Giant, absolutly amazing packaging and the
sweetest band.   
   Also picked up Chickfactor #13.  I don't know if
anyone mentioned this, but there's a great interview
with Stevie in it.  Also great features on the
Clientele and Papercuts fanzine, which i'm sure some
of you sinisterines would enjoy.  
   I'm hoping a kind sinisterine could help me out
too?   I was just curious if anyone knew the line up
for the Bowlie weekender?  If anyone could tell me all
the bands that played it'd be much appreciated.
   OK, that's it for now.  see ya later.

       --- andrew   


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From blueorchid99999 at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 12:19:56 2001
From: blueorchid99999 at xxx.com (Jennifer Gray)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:19:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: her dubious debut
Message-ID: <20010128121956.66272.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com>

   I've been out of the nursery for a while, just
reading the posts when I get home from work, getting
to know everybody...  I'm a little nervous about
posting, which I notice is common.  I think it's
because there are so many good writers on the list! 
You all write so amusingly!  How can a dimwitted lass
such as I hope to write anything befitting such an
illustrious list?  Blegh, I can't.  I'll barrel ahead
anyway.  Damn the torpedoes...
   I drink way too much chocolate milk.  But even
though I know it's making me fat, I keep doing it.  I
have really short breaks at work, no time to eat *and*
smoke a cigarette.  So I drink chocolate milk and
smoke at the same time, and just *feel* like I ate. 
This morning I took my half-finished choclate milk out
of the refrigerator at work before I left, and I
noticed a whole bunch more in there.  I'll bet they're
all mine.  Somehow this struck me as extremely funny. 
I'm waiting to see if the whole refrigerator fills up
with half-full chocolate milks.  Then I'll *know*
they're mine.  That would be hilarious.  A monument to
my greatness.  I'm tired and silly.
  B+S content:  I had "Stars of Track and Field" stuck
in my head all day.  Especially the part about terry
underwear.  No one knows who they are here.  And it's
so hard to describe what kind of band they are. 
Especially to people who wouldn't understand what
"indie" means.  And so I pack plastic bottles at work,
listening to B+S inside my head.  hmmm....my opinions
are not nearly as elitist or "hip" as they once
were...since I got married, I haven't been part of any
scene.  So, I've made do, and learned that you can
really be friends with all kinds of people, even if
they listen to crappy music, and you have nothing in
common with them.  But certain music (like The Smiths
and B+S) has become such a part of me, my identity,
that I still feel really alienated sometimes.  You
can't explain to them what you listen to, and they
probably wouldn't like it anyway.  Ack, this has
become redundant.  But you understand what I'm saying.
   In a sort of response to recent posts  (I don't
remember who wrote them, but you will know who you
are):  to the girl in Oklahoma, so am I.  To the girl
who has a mad crush on a married man, so do I.
   But anyway.  Hi, everyone!  I will beat a hasty
retreat now.   
XXXOOO  Jenny

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From jmk43 at xxx.edu  Sun Jan 28 14:54:41 2001
From: jmk43 at xxx.edu (jmk43 at xxx.edu)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:54:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: her dubious debut
In-Reply-To: <20010128121956.66272.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.1010128095239.11108B-100000@travelers.mail.cornell.edu>

dont be stupid jenny cause you're looking great.
chocolate milk is a wonderful beverage of which you can never drink enough.
-jer

ps:first post ever.

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From angelfairybelle at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 17:37:26 2001
From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:37:26 -0000
Subject: Sinister: after the gold rush
Message-ID: <F229USxvjPkQTGpaoG100002480@hotmail.com>

oh my goodness!

i love neil young!  and it's taken me since christmas to realise how much.  
sat in the 13th note last night avec fellow sinisterine dafyd, "after the 
gold rush" came on the jukebox and i was in love...that song is just so 
beautiful.  my dear lovely sweetheart ross put "like a hurricane" on his 
christmas tape for me and it has the most lovely lyric "you are like a 
hurricane/there's calm in your eyes"......

*sigh*

this weekend has been pretty cool.  showed daf the sights, and i went to the 
top of the tower at the lighthouse which was very scary because i'm scared 
of heights.  but i managed it none the less.  have been listening to mogwai 
a lot too, cos i saw stuart braithwaite do an acoustic set at sleazy's the 
other night....i could well get into my post rock.

i just realised i haven't seen the news for ages and ages.

in may LovelyRoss is visiting Gairloch with some of his friends.  I think 
I'll have to go home too.  To show him around and stuff.  Though that'll 
take all of two minutes since it's one road in, same road out. (and you 
think i'm joking.  i'm not.)  i can't wait.  i *really* want to go home and 
sit on the beach when it's windy, the sea goes all bottle green and the 
waves crash in over the rocks and white spray goes everywhere and it is 
great.  then i collect shells which is cool too, i take them home, wash them 
and lay them out on the front step.  that's one thing about gairloch that is 
better than glasgow, you can't go shell-collecting here.

i think KenRedBull worries too much about whether girls like him or not.  
though i can't really talk considering i constantly worry whether boys like 
me too.  i mean, the boys that i'm friends with like me as far as i know, 
but as for "potential boyfriends" i have no idea.  it's all just too 
confusing.

i agree with jenowl, ribena is the best drink in the world.  but have you 
tried vodka and ribena?  mmmmmm, now that is lovely.  what i miss the most 
is creamola foam though, does anyone else remember it?  it came in a wee 
tub, it was pink powder and you added two or three tablespoonfuls to a glass 
of water and it fizzed up and tasted lovely.

was talking about 80's tv the otherday.  does anyone else remember pugwall?  
teddy ruxpin?  fraggle rock?  round the twist? fingermouse?  you and me with 
cosmo and dibs?  charlie chalk?  they don't make them like that anymore.

right, i better go,
loadsa love,
amy xxxxx





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From dontloveanyone at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 18:42:12 2001
From: dontloveanyone at xxx.com (Mike K)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:42:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: The centre of my so-called being
Message-ID: <382790032.980707332773.JavaMail.root@web447-ec.mail.com>

Neil Young is King....saw him live about 2 weeks ago, amazing. Funny to see him two hours after Oasis and see that he's got more energy than 'em all combined.

Woke up with a headache and a memory of a bizarre B&S dream. I'm sure the details interest little-to-none of you so I'll spare them and just note that I really ought to sleep at less odd times to avoid such dreams.

it rained cats dogs and mice last night and traffic was a nightmare. the heat and humidity of brazilian summers is killer. i long for lazy northern hemisphere nights with the chill wind biting at your cheeks and the light snow falling on windows. but then all my friends up north tell me that i'm insane and should shut up and go outside.

Put on Tigermilk at full volume this morning to see if i got any reactions from the neighbours, one who owns 14 cats and 5 cats (oh the sleepless nights spent trying to achieve sleep while ignoring the loud noises of pet copulation next door) the other i've never actually seen but have nasty ideas of, based on the crap music he or she puts on every morning.

whoever mentioned Fraggle Rock, true, tv just isnt what it used to be. mind you, it wasnt much before, anyway. the remote control is an outlet for peoples' frustration at the lack of control they exert over their own lives. Discuss.

i'll get going now, 
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From ceasetocare at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 19:17:14 2001
From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:17:14 -0000
Subject: Sinister: fraggle rock and muuuum
Message-ID: <LAW2-F1463sllNY30kk00001d6a@hotmail.com>

I have to admit that Fraggle Rock is possibly my favorite show ever. I used 
to spend a lot of time on Napster downloading Fraggle songs.

I can't believe my first post on sinister was about Fraggle Rock. But I 
couldn't let a Fraggle Rock comment just pass me by.

~ Megan

p.s. content: remember the two girls on the cover of fold your hands, you 
walk like a peasant? (i can't bring myself to write the acronym (spelt 
wrong?)) I sent away for the free tape of their band, Muuuum, and it was 
wonderful! Their song is gorgeous, I'd recommend it. I can't remember where 
I got the address from the guy who sent it to me, I might have gotten it 
from sinister. He might BE on sinister. I honestly can't remember. It's Matt 
at mrhairy at spitefulrecords.freeserve.co.uk if you're interested. And Mr. 
Matt, if you're out there, I thank you for the cheerful letter and the tape 
and as soon as I think of something clever and useful (like cash ;-) )to 
send you, I will!
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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 21:10:15 2001
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:10:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: of mAnykings and mammoths
Message-ID: <F16suTtivEa3rTp6wgr0000277b@hotmail.com>

sinister

on tuesday i went to glasgow with my mate snowflake
and i got divine comedy
tix(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
and in the evening we went to see troika
and they were faaaantastic! :)
snowflake thought so too
neil 'badge pincher' milton borrowed my 'ah fair fancy falkirk' badge
and hes still borrowing it....
;P   :)
actually
im not too bothered
yeah, neil-if u want u can keep it  :)
i think i have another one somewhere anyway...

but snowflake and i got a few strange looks
coz we kept talking to each other in cat
and she bit me
shes strange
but i luv 'er that way
:)

last nite i went to see king adora
all on my lonesome
the support bands were
easyworld: pretty damn brilliant!
and the singer
AWW! luverlee- and glittery too  :)
just wish their set had been longer
coz that left more time for
crackout: eh...yeah
sorry, wasnt impressed.at all.
just a bit too much "hear how much noise we can make"
and the singer was a bit "look how much i can jump and run about"
but then he tripped and fell
hahahahahahahaha

king adora were pretty good
although i was pretty disappointed when they played smoulder and half the
bloody lyrics were on back-up tapes or wotever u call 'em.  :/
and it was only a 1/2 hour set

i was disappointed with the crowd actually
i had hoped thered be lots of g-LL-ams
like really really glam, especially really glam boys  :)
and i was stood next to a load of glam-ish girls
one, who i shall refer to as 'bag girl'
had on, youll never guess!- oh yes, a bag!
and she kept hitting me with it
then she went away
(i dont think she meant to hit me with her bag)
but then, she was replaced by
space arse and friend
space arse took bag girls place, but this was about 10mins later
so i had moved forward
but space arse was having none of it
god forbid she ever doesnt get what she wants
or more where she wants
she wedged me right out of my little space
i cant believe how arrogant some people are

then someone jumped and knocked the yin-yang charm/closure straight out of
my earring
which stung
thats the seconed charm/closure ive lost for that earring  :/

then there was these guys behind me
and all i heard was 'touch the mohawk, go on touch it, i dare you!'
so i stood and listened to them dare each other
then i heard 'if u want her attention, pinch her arse'
at this point i turned round and looked at him
he was like 'eh......'
it was funny :)

but i got a t-shirt
:)
its my first rude t-shirt :)
and its not even rude really.

and i pinched a poster, it had fallen on the floor on the stairs but it
wasnt trampled on
so i picked it up and folded it into my bag
:)
jason 'poster theif' andreas- your a bad influence!!

and yesterday in glasgow b4 the gig i met up with
jason and his bird <WAVE!>
Alo jason and emma!
and amy <WAVE!>
Hullo amy! :)
and met for the first time
david strange <WAVE!>
HI David!! :)

so that was nice :)

anyway
thats all
your friend always
sweetie
xox

thought for the week:
if u pinch something
should u be allowed to keep it?
(think about it as long as i have- makes the thought much more...interesting
:)   )


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From ceasetocare at xxx.com  Sun Jan 28 21:57:01 2001
From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:57:01 -0000
Subject: Sinister: fraggle rock and muuuum
Message-ID: <LAW2-F87837g7RFlz4300001f41@hotmail.com>

I'm sure it's the same band, I've seen the name like that before. It has no 
vocals . . . . I'm not sure how else to describe it. Kind of electronic . . 
. slow, but not too slow. I'm not very good at desribing this. It's 
something you could fall asleep to, not dance to. That kind of electronic. 
And more melodic that typical electronica music (i don't even know what that 
is, only what my own definition is!). I hope that helps.

"I remember hearing that those girls were Icelandic. And I've heard of an 
Icelandic band called M�m. Is it the same band, or is this just a 
coincidence? What kind of music did their band play?" Simon

"p.s. content: remember the two girls on the cover of fold your hands, you 
walk like a peasant? (i can't bring myself to write the acronym (spelt 
wrong?)) I sent away for the free tape of their band, Muuuum, and it was 
wonderful!"



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From vilkas at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 00:23:21 2001
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:23:21 -0400
Subject: Sinister: after the gold rush.  Yes, Neil Young is indeed
	 cooooool. try it, you'll like it!
Message-ID: <200101290115.UAA14769@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>

Amy & the rest of you,
    Hey I'll introduce myself. It's Vilkas. (Ms. Vilkas, not Mr. Vilkas,
there's sometimes confusion). I often enjoy your posts. It's like a
peanut-gallery-massive. But I don't post much myself. I've been writing one
in my drafts folder for about a month now, it never seems coherent enough to
post. And this isn't it. So, there you have it: HI!.

     >>i agree with jenowl, ribena is the best drink in the world.  but have
you 
.>>tried vodka and ribena?  mmmmmm, now that is lovely.  what i miss the
most 
>>is creamola foam though, does anyone else remember it?  it came in a wee 
>>tub, it was pink powder and you added two or three tablespoonfuls to a glass 
>>of water and it fizzed up and tasted lovely.

LIQUID FRUIT FLAVOURED CRACK
    So Ribena.  Here, in the east coast seaboard of the US, Ribena is
occaisionally sold in Asian grocerys. My local Indian food grocery has it in
Orange Apricot, but not purple-berry flavour (?). The Chinese grocery store
had the berry flavour squash/concentrate Ribena in purple berry. Speaking of
flavour, while in Scotland, I got ***hooked*** on Irn-Bru. But there's no
Irn-Bru here. None.  There's a soda called Inca-Cola that they sell in my
local Cuban restaurant. And again, in the specialty, hispanic/mexican/South
American, grocery. It's pretty similar, y'know, carbonated bubble gum &
liquid gummi bear mixed together flavour; but it doen't have that
***special*** thing that Irn-Bru has. 
    Vodka & Ribena is good. Vodka & Irn-Bru is better. Vodka & RedBull is
the best! Props to KennethRedBull. Geez, my last night in Glasgow, October
25th or 26th or something, some friends and me went out dancing 'n' stuff.
Vodka & RedBulls were £1.50. Oh dear. I sobered up somewhere over the
Atlantic ocean that was much closer to North America than it was to Glasgow
International Airport. A few days later I was speaking with my friend
Domenico about the combination hangover/jetlag cloud hanging above my head.
He suggested that vodka & RedBull is what you drink when you want to break
things. When you want to make out in the middle of the dance floor but only
after dancing on the table. After breaking more things. I blushed as I had
been found out. >:-). (Sorry about that, I'm still amused by emoticons.)
 
     >>was talking about 80's tv the otherday.  does anyone else remember
pugwall?  
>>teddy ruxpin?  fraggle rock?  round the twist? fingermouse?  you and me with 
>>cosmo and dibs?  charlie chalk?  they don't make them like that anymore.

SCARY TALKING BEARS
    Ooo, I remember Teddy Ruxpin. He scared me. I thought he was creepy.
Mind you I wasn't even a little little kid at the time.  I turned 9 in 1983;
at 26, I'm a technically an adult. However Fraggle Rock, ***rocked***.  To
the tune of Faggle Rock: "Down at Fraggle Rock Dah Dah Dah!" Do you remember
Snorks? Smurfs, He-Man, She-Ra, Thundercats, Mighty Mouse? Geez, there are
so many wacky old shows from the 80s that didn't seem that odd in the 80s
but now they do. My friend had a videocassette of 80s TV commercials. We
watched them during as part of a sculpture critique which was odd in itself.
The adverts were recorded on analog home video equipment back in the day.
And they were edited together on contemporary, digital, professional
equipment. What this did to the picture was nothing. What this did to the
sound was turned it into a record at the wrong speed, then the right speed,
then the wrong speed, and so on like that.  It was crazy to see all those
adverts; cos even with the wacky sound everyone watching remebered the
jingles enough to hum along. Kinda scary. Actually really scary.

    i love neil young!  and it's taken me since christmas to realise how
much.  
sat in the 13th note last night avec fellow sinisterine dafyd, "after the 
gold rush" came on the jukebox and i was in love...that song is just so 
beautiful.  my dear lovely sweetheart ross put "like a hurricane" on his 
christmas tape for me and it has the most lovely lyric "you are like a 
hurricane/there's calm in your eyes"......

13TH-NOTE-RED-THAI-CURRY
    Lemme just say. One night in mid-October last year, I had been going
about my day and had a 13th-note-red-thai-curry craving that had to be
satisfied.  It had been drizzling intermittently all day. Then, after I went
home and frenshened up. As I walked across the street [:)] to hop on the
underground it started to rain harder. Ok, 5 stops later, coming up the St.
Enochs escalator, there was a typhoon waiting for me and any other poor folk
wo dared leave the shelter of modern buildings. So I said fuck it, opened my
umbrella to little use, and went curry hunting. Down Argyle street, still
typhooning, down King street still typhooning. So I get to the corner. It's
just the time of day so that it's dusk but the windows are still reflecting
the sunlight so you cannot see in.  Turn the corner, open the door, shake a
little bit of water off, look up. They've got the candles in bottles lit. On
every table. And then some. The whole place is lit by these candles. What
with the warm, terracotta coloured ceilings and all, it was like walking
into a freakin cathedrel in a movie or something. My Bloody Valentine was on
the speakers. It was sooooo nice to be in there then. Such a nice surprise.
If only I'd been with a young man I'd fancied. (And who'd fancied me, but
thats a whole nother story that doesn't need to see the light of day.
dammitdammitdammit.)  But are you ever just going along, and you happen upon
a really *nice* pleasant place to be. Like you're waliking down the street
and you look up and there's nothing but blue in the sky? Yep, that's it.
Plus, they had 13th-note-red-thai-curry. It's good. Mmmmm. And Pine Ale.
It's good, Mmmmm. 

        Going to go and see some local folks play music now. Denali. I've
heard they're good. And Patrick Phelan. He's good. A little derivative like
"Please I wanna be like chemikal underground"; but that's ok. It's still
really nice, he's got this supersmooth voice. So if you know him, i'm not
ragging, OK? 
                                                         
                 Copying Laura Llew, Lovin' ya and Leavin 'Ya, Vilkas

>
>right, i better go,
>loadsa love,
>amy xxxxx
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From zanne at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 01:39:24 2001
From: zanne at xxx.com (some random girl)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:39:24 -0700
Subject: Sinister: dreams are like senstations we never get in life
Message-ID: <003201c08994$4f5353c0$abd86c18@powersurfr.com>



heidi ho!

after all this talk about people trying to see if there was anyone else in
their area, well i thought i would give it a try seeing as i just moved to
Edmonton, Alberta and am having a bit or problem finding any people who just
don't plain suck.  maybe it is me.  i don't know.  but if you live around or
in the city, drop me a line, and maybe we can have one of those picnics
everyone is raving about.

that is all.


-some random girl-

"you can't walk away from love"

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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 29 19:18:35 2001
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:18:35 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Staring at the pink formica
Message-ID: <3A74E10A.19241.18D86499@localhost>


	It's a strange sense of guilt you feel when you sleep in 
someone else's bed and they don't even know about it. I stayed at 
my friend's house at the weekend and slept in the bed of the 
christian fundamentalist who usually lives there. Normally I wouldn't 
mind, and maybe it was because I'd been reading the Bible by his 
bed, but I suddenly felt very guilty about sleeping there. It's almost 
like wearing a stranger's pants without them knowing, isn't it? In 
Leviticus, I'm sure you'd be smote for that.

	My sister is very excited at the moment because she's 
organising her friend's hen night. She phoned me up telling me how 
she's found a brilliant hotel which is covered in plastic fur and pink 
formica. I'm a little worried about her enthusiasm and visible 
reddening about wipe-clean surfaces. What sort of party could she 
be thinking of? I hope it's going to be a tupperware party. At least we 
know where Erica's faux-fur has gone to.

	Personally, I'm reddening at the prospect of Belle and Sebastian 
Downtown style. When I was eight or nine Petula Clarke was my 
favourite singer. My sister and I used to record radio shows on our 
tape recorder and introduce songs from Cliff and Bros and lovely, 
glorious Petula. One of us would listen to the radio and the other 
would talk for a while into the recorder, then when a song came on 
the radio we'd quickly flick the switch and record it. For a while 
things were great, when we had the batteries we'd do a roadshow, 
and they used to call me the furry rice-crispie. Then Caroline came 
home with Dinosaur Jr Records and old-style DJs like myself 
weren't wanted anymore. I recorded my last show, span Downtown 
for one last time and dreamed of busy streets and plastic raincoats.

Robin xxx
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From Matthew.Rose at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 11:46:29 2001
From: Matthew.Rose at xxx.com (Rose, Matthew (Expl))
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:46:29 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Formication
Message-ID: <7137C15D47B8D211806A0008C71EA5DD33CD6F@EXPBRIEXCH01>

Dear DJ Furry Rice Crispie,

Tell your sister that formication is a sin (you can wipe clean)!

Here at The Quiet Club we have made a compilation of old chill classics
called:

Home Taping Is Chilling Music

You dig?

Matt Rose
The Quiet Club
Bristol




-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Stout [mailto:ppyrrjs at xxx.uk]
Sent: 29 January 2001 19:19
To: sinister
Subject: Sinister: Staring at the pink formica



	It's a strange sense of guilt you feel when you sleep in 
someone else's bed and they don't even know about it. I stayed at 
my friend's house at the weekend and slept in the bed of the 
christian fundamentalist who usually lives there. Normally I wouldn't 
mind, and maybe it was because I'd been reading the Bible by his 
bed, but I suddenly felt very guilty about sleeping there. It's almost 
like wearing a stranger's pants without them knowing, isn't it? In 
Leviticus, I'm sure you'd be smote for that.

	My sister is very excited at the moment because she's 
organising her friend's hen night. She phoned me up telling me how 
she's found a brilliant hotel which is covered in plastic fur and pink 
formica. I'm a little worried about her enthusiasm and visible 
reddening about wipe-clean surfaces. What sort of party could she 
be thinking of? I hope it's going to be a tupperware party. At least we 
know where Erica's faux-fur has gone to.

	Personally, I'm reddening at the prospect of Belle and Sebastian 
Downtown style. When I was eight or nine Petula Clarke was my 
favourite singer. My sister and I used to record radio shows on our 
tape recorder and introduce songs from Cliff and Bros and lovely, 
glorious Petula. One of us would listen to the radio and the other 
would talk for a while into the recorder, then when a song came on 
the radio we'd quickly flick the switch and record it. For a while 
things were great, when we had the batteries we'd do a roadshow, 
and they used to call me the furry rice-crispie. Then Caroline came 
home with Dinosaur Jr Records and old-style DJs like myself 
weren't wanted anymore. I recorded my last show, span Downtown 
for one last time and dreamed of busy streets and plastic raincoats.

Robin xxx
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 29 12:24:35 2001
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:24:35 BST
Subject: Sinister: i tried to explain 'wonkey donkey', no-one understood.
Message-ID: <4A8F78719A@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

hello sinilovelies,

 ooh, i'm having a strange sort of day. i took twenty quid out of a 
cash machine and now i can't find it. not pleased. grrr.

  today i've actually read some posts and noticed what was in them:
  vilkas managed to cram ribena and irn-bru in the same email (there 
are warnings that such a concoction may stain) and i nearly jumped 
for joy. i am the confirmed queen of irn-br, but lately i have been 
worried that i've been enjoying ribena a little too much. 
 and some people have real problems.

 i think that jenny hit the nail on the head when she talked about 
drifting into being pretty normal, but still feeling a bit like an 
outsider because of the way stuff like b+s has affected you. i 
understood, and i sympathised.

 someone said that they don't make kids tv like they used to, well on 
the whole, of course they don't, but has anyone seen 'my parents are 
aliens'? its fantastic, it even has a cute scottish guy who isn't one 
of the popular kids. but stoopid itv have taken it off in favour of 
'the worst witch' just another vehicle for precocious drama school 
brats talking in posh accents. i remember hating the kids at school 
who took drama lessons, perhaps it made them over-confident and thus 
unbearable, or maybe i was just jealous.

 i always go off on one when i'm writing sinister posts and start 
writing detailed psychological examinations of myself, until i 
realise what i'm doing and have to delete huge paragraphs. i mention 
this here, but i was just about to above, but just about managed to 
stop in time.

 sweetie mentioned going to a gig on her own. i haven't done that for 
ages, i'll have to one of these days, cos it really is an experience. 
i think we've had discussion about that before though on the list, so 
i won't labour the point.

  people sometimes take the piss outof me for being a sinister kid 
(principally my boyfriend) but then i laugh and remind him of his 
friend who has transcribed the lyrics to every recorded mansun song 
and put them on a messageboard. 
 just thought i'd share.

      ok, enough of me,
                love and irn-bru (and those new 500ml ready to drink 
bottles of ribena)
                                          fiona.
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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 29 13:47:04 2001
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:47:04 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Another year older, and deeper in debt...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775458@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

Ah, the joys of Inca Cola. Peru's very own answer to Pepsi. Except,
unfotunately I could never bring myself to use it as a substitute hangover
cure instead of Irn-Bru, simply because when you're suffering the last thing
you want to drink is something consisting almost entirely of colouring,
giving it a bright yellow hue which is clearly not found anywhere in nature.

Then again, what do I know, I'm pure and innocent, I would never get drunk
and end up with a hangover...  (oh look, is that a flock of pigs up there in
the sky?)


And after Saturday night (spent celebrating the fact that, as of today, I am
another year closer to receiving my pensioners bus pass), I am still
convinced that The Long Island Iced Tea Cafe may be a pretty decent
nightclub, but it's sure as hell a crap name.


Anyway, my reason for writing all this drivel was to ask: is the Kings Of
Convenience album any good? All the reviewers keep saying they're like Nick
Drake or B&S, but we all know how little they know about music... Answers on
a postcard to the usual address...


Big Stu


PS MINT!
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 13:55:53 2001
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:55:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Grandaddy; what Q?; I-Fancy-You-Can-I-Get-A-Snog-Now Day; And rants of a giver upper. 
Message-ID: <20010129135553.18679.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi hi,

Well, the weekend has calmed me down a bit since last
weeks major panic thing.

This weekend, me and my boyfriend are off to see
Grandaddy at Southampton, that is, if he has got the
tickets through the post yet.

A few Grandaddy things for anyone who is interested:
1. GMTV have started using Crystal Lake as a sort of
background thing for their adverts.
2. They are going to be on Channel 5 on Sunday.
3. I like them.

I am bursting to ask you all a question, about
something on the telly yesterday, but I feel that it
would make me look even sadder than, well, sad. So try
and guess what my question is, and I'll quietly admit
to you if you are right.

So, Valentines nearly upon us, so whats going on with
the popularity contest that is the Crush vote thingy?
Is it still going? Does anyone still care, and hope
that from across the crowded room, someone who is
slightly good looking will notice them, and vote?

I've been out buying all my valentines pressies
already. I felt dead chuffed, but I was a little bit
disturbed when I thought of my overdraft. So I decided
not to think about the overdaft and concerntrate on
the smoochiness of Valentines.

I would have found Mark Waudby's post funny, if he
hadn't actually told me first. So it sort of had the
same effect as watching the same Simpsons episode
twice. In a row.
 And if he had found my ideas funny as well, rather
than just, looking at me, and telling me they were
crap.
SO I'M NOT PLAYING.
*sulks mildly*

This idea of giving up fags is really not a good idea.
It makes me so much more irritable. Oooh, jeez, I
really need a nicotine thing. Its a horrid feeling,
trying to quit. Even the chewing gum I got doesn't do
the trick really. I just munch it with frustrated
angriness. I'm trying to do it to:
1. Save money
2. Taste sweeter than an ashtray
3. Save my health
4. cos I'm paranoid now I am in my early twenties,
that wrinkles and fine lines are going to be appearing
as quickly as spots did in my adolecence. Oh, and also
grey bags under my eyes.
5. I don't want to look like my aunt.

I tried to give up on Friday, and that lasted all of
three hours. 
Oooh! Must resist, must resist.. ach, sod it, I'm off
down the paper shop for some cigs.

Love,
The withdrawn idleberry






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From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 14:29:57 2001
From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:29:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Sinister: "The state I am in" - The movie
Message-ID: <200101291429.PAA23571@d1o901.telia.com>


Hi,
I haven't written for quite a while, sorry about that (I'm not sure 
anyone noticed though :-) )

The film Festival here in Gothenburg, Sweden, has started.
Yesterday I saw "The state I am in". The moment I saw the name of the 
film in the catalogue I just knew I had to see it.
It didn't have anything to do with Belle & Sebastian though.
It was a German movie about a family of (ex-)terrorists (at least I 
think it was). A mom, a dad and a 15 year old girl.
Anyway, it was quite good.

I have started a new endeavor. Have you heard the lovely story about 
Sarah Records? You probably have but I only heard it a couple of weeks 
ago (If you haven't you can read all about it on this page: 
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~shink/sarahhome.htm). Now I've decided 
to try to collect all of the 100 7" singles. So if anyone has any of 
thoose singles and their just collecting dust feel free to contact me 
and we can work something out.

Ok, that's all folks, for this time anyway.

///Alexander
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From dolphin-y at xxx.jp  Mon Jan 29 15:06:48 2001
From: dolphin-y at xxx.jp (Miss Dolphin)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:06:48 +0900
Subject: Sinister: Geddes in Japan
Message-ID: <200101291506.AA00686@oemcomputer.mb.neweb.ne.jp>

Hi...this is my first post.
Just got back from sweet sweet concert of Teenage Fanclub
in Tokyo. What I found besides TFC on the stage was Chris
Geddes playing keyboards! I got lucky I saw TFC and (a piece
of) B&S with just one tix....!

Laters,
Dolphin

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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 29 15:49:14 2001
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:49:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Further more than a pocket novel
In-Reply-To: <200101291429.PAA23571@d1o901.telia.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0101291514050.3865-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>


Dear all:

I join the ranks of those what had confessed not having listened to Belle
and Sebastian for a while.With the exception of just playing FHYCLAP
partially,that is, as if my hifi had a track-three detector instead of
four word one,and stopping at track six again.


But last night I went to bed with 'Beautiful'.
Wondering again why Lisa got blind and not deaf,why blindness
feature so often in Stuart's lyrics,had I been blind recently too? I
got to play 'Dog in Wheels' EP and fell awestruck into 'The State I am in'
again.I know Peter Miller would absolutely hate this,but its somehow
uncomprehensible story might make a fantastic Hal Hartley script.Also a
Kaurismaki one.Or a Bresson even.Sinners on the way to
redemption marrying Eastern child brides holding a
resemblance with Carol Baker/Baby Doll,dysfunctional families and a
compulsive listener who became
a priest to have access to people's broken homes and hearts,taking notes
non-stop behind the counter.It would get away with any amount of squalor
spilled over its lines thanks to that splendid crescendo that makes one
to leave the house and run and run and run just for the sake of
it.Millions of times more inspiring than a high-tech sports gear ad.

So,Alexander provided me with an alibi to plug my rediscovery.The 
plot of that German film has left me a bit down,however.After reading
recently that Ulrikka Meinhoff (sorry about the spelling)lived in fear not
to score high enough as a mother nor as a terrorist, I could not help
picturing a remix of 'The Soprano'and 'Ally McBeal' based on a radical
Maoist organisation where children are not allowed to play Monopoly under
any circumstances, and mums worry if they will be back in time for the
dentist appointment after blowing up some police constabulary.All very 
late 70s/early 80s,display of knitting magazines with instructions for
cute crocheted balaclavas on the sofas,and confiscated Argentinian team
football t-shirts because they were playing for the enemy.


Or perhaps this mess is inspiring enough for Mr Murdoch to give us back
some 'The (People's)State strikes back',hopefully.


In need of more of such songs

Arantxa 





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From room_30 at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 18:34:07 2001
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:34:07 -0000
Subject: Sinister: whether you're rich or whrther you're poor, it's nice to be rich
Message-ID: <F235AENA9FUDGyIXYev00001299@hotmail.com>

god, it's nearly february

big stu asked about kings of convenience:
i don't know about the album but i bought a copy of the 'playing live in a 
room' ep because of the quality of the boys' flares in the photo in the NME 
when they appeared in the on section,  i thought anybody with brown flares 
*that* cool must be worth a try and i'm glad i did coz it's fantastic.


i was looking through the archives and decided to round up all my own posts 
and copy them to my computer so i typed in pez (my name if you hadn't 
figured it out) and expected my 6 or 7 posts to appear on the screen BUT 
NO!!!   instead i got a load of SMUT written about me from before i even 
joined the list, i investigated and found out some of you had a conversation 
about pez candy back in '98, but i got a shock non the less.  here's a 
selection of the aforementioned SMUT

- you've all made me desire pez. i've never had any pez
- around 7:10 or so..with pez of course
- pez is pretty good
- i don't have pez!! i've never eaten pez in my life and i don't know how to
- created specifically to meet society's pez needs
- maybe i will eat some pez one night and wear daisies another night
- i never said 'poo on the pez
- I like my pez
- the same as not rubbing your pez
- taking your pez out in public
- Pez Body Parts


and not only but also, this popped up too
PS - PEZ - TORONTO - B&S SHOW THE 24TH OCT

'not too special' i hear you cry (i also hear 'sod off you wierdo' shouted 
from somewhere on the outskirts of edinburgh, but i am quietly ignoring you) 
but the fact is that october the 24th is my birthday - now if *that* ain't 
freaky.

talking about smut, aren't our own abbreviations, FISHYCLAP and TWATTYBUS, a 
bit rude in their own right?



OOH! OOH!
who was it who sent a wordsearch?
am i the first to olve it? (or the only one)
if so do i get a prize?

T G W M A R I E C B T P
I V O O U A C G W G U Q
T C A N I D E E H E R E
F E S E L I A H V G T E
E I F Y O P L O R E L M
V U C E V L K N S A E A
S Y W F E K V E A M E J
X S A U C E B Y P L U I
O Y P C Z N L P E N S C
O O P K A V I S I T V E
Y W L E P M I F B K W P
E D E B A Z S E N E Y E

      M A R I E     T
      O   A         U
      N   D         R
      E L     H     T
      Y O     O     L M
        V     N     E A
        E     E       J
  S A U C E   Y       I
  Y P                 C
  O P     V I S I T
    L
    E

Words: Apple, Honey, Love,
Majic, Marie, Money, Rad,
Sauce, Turtle, Visit, Yo.


is that all?
i think so, yes
well in that case i'll go.

seeya
Pez*


ps, big virtual hugs and kisses for whoever can tell me who the quote in the 
subject is from
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Mon Jan 29 18:55:17 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:55:17 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Fox in the Know
Message-ID: <002f01c08a25$3ce2e660$715d243e@itjfvkli>

B&S producer Mike Hurst has not only worked with PP Arnold, the First Lady
of Immediate, he's also worked with the First Lady of Big Knockers, former
top model and forces sweetheart Samantha Fox. I wonder if he told Isobel?
Here's the evidence, as supplied by private detective Stiffy Magoo:
http://www.zakstarkey.com/sfx.html
Hursty also produced The Buggles, thus influencing Trevor Horn and changing
the face of pop.
So fear not, Robin Stout. Pet Clark cool is just a small part of Hursty's
career.

I take back what I said about "I Heard It Through The Grapevine". It was
really stupid, even by my standards.

I've only seen two Hal Hartley films, one was OK, the other was a bit ropey.

Brier, I only heard about twenty seconds of "69 Love Songs", so yes, I
suppose I was kidding. Sort of.

On Saturday we had a fantastic Sinister picnic. Jordi wore his Gentle Waves
badge, I wore my bus t-shirt. Maria gave me chocolate, for which I will be
eternally grateful. Noisette, no less. Isn't that half of a Cocteau Twins
song? Elenita99 is going to London, so get ready. As usual, we talked about
YOU. We decided that you were a right bunch of puffs.

On Sunday I saw "Billy Elliot". Up yours "Gregory's Girl"!

It's nice to see that great band Tompaulin getting a few mentions on the
list again. A few weeks ago I mistakenly called them "sad sack of arse
bastards". I hope I didn't cause any offence. I was, of course, referring to
those insufferable puddings, It's Jo and Danny.

Baxendale for Prime Minister!

Peter

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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Mon Jan 29 20:37:14 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:37:14 +0000
Subject: Sinister: You can't touch this
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100ab2605005b8ff100ab2605.ab264c@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

as i write this i'm listening to set a drift on memory bliss by PM Dawn, a song i loved along with
MC hammer's you can't touch this when i was ten. ahhh happy memories.

Theres was lots of tlak of fraggle rock the other day, i have been to fraggle rock lighthouse, its
in falmouth. It was a bit of an anit climax, no margie the compost heap, oh well. 

As everyone seeems to be going to see Grandaddy i thought i'd just say that they were so cool when
i saw them on  saturday although they didn't play everything beautiful is far away and jason forgot
the words to one of the songs, i forgot which one but he looked so upset.  and the elliott smith
song they did while soundchecking wasn't played which would have made my night. but a fun was night
had balancing on one leg, as i was suffering  sore foot syndrome.

i had dream about stuart murdoch being the manager of sheffield united the other night.

i dont think i need any further explanation. 

so i shall leave

Nigel Love
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http://www.lundwood.u-net.com/bettysclinic.htm
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 21:44:48 2001
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:44:48 -0000
Subject: Sinister: "I never seem to come out as the princess I *know myself to be*!"
Message-ID: <000201c08a3c$b752c660$dea901d5@default>

Hi All,

The Future Pilot aka album came out today & is liked. Hard to describe after
just one listen. Good though.

Belle and Sebastian content: Stuart sings on track 11, Om Namah Shivaya (&
you get nearly 10 minutes of his beautiful chanting, unlike the abridged
version on the single) Isobel blesses track 2, Ananda Is The Ocean with her
copyright breathy vocals & plays piano on the 3rd number, Witchi Tai To
(although its hard to find in the mix). Stevie Reverb & Neil The Manager get
specially thanked (as does at least one fragrant Sinisterine).

Fascinating sleeve notes too.


The new Arab Strap single is dull.


Stephen Pastel is a mobile-free zone.

Love,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Mon Jan 29 22:06:07 2001
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:06:07 -0000
Subject: Sinister: those lost in Harkness without lamps
Message-ID: <F189ujsclWXSZ3Zs3Mp00003d7c@hotmail.com>


ANdrew CHurchman,
whose penchant for differentiated type puts him up there with the Velocity 
Filles of this world, enthused

>>>Also picked up Chickfactor #13.  I don't know if
anyone mentioned this, but there's a great interview
with Stevie in it.

Oh, god, yes. It's great. I know it by heart, but I'm glad that someone on 
sinister has finally mentioned it. The whole thing about the eloquent cat is 
vintage. The "Sinatra at Poughkeepsie" phrase is immortal. At least so far. 
(Oh! I can't believe 6 months have passed. They haven't?) The bit where he 
talks about his bandmates is very accurate and telling, I think, but rather 
understated and underdeveloped. And you can tell from the way it ends that 
this is a fellow who will probably stay in London all his life.

The only thing that disappointed me about cf13 was the silly interview with 
the guitarist out of Belle & Sebastian. 'Get In The Car', my axe. I'm going 
to repeat that a couple of times, it's so absurd on its own that it needs no 
feeble comedy annotation.

'Get In The Car'.

'Get In The Car'.



Phew.


PEter MIller
maintained his position as the BootBoyofSole, I mean, Soul, today. I love 
his implausible silly confrontational style. Long may it rain in Spain, or 
something. How does the geezer Miller talk about **US**, as he claims, when 
he has never met us? Which of **US** do he and his pals discuss? ALL of us? 
It's a good thing they have long lunch hours down in his par for the course, 
I mean, part of the whirl.

Folk seem to agree that the (to my mind, outstanding) melody at the start of 
the chorus of the geezer Merritt's 'Give Me Back My Dreams' sounds just like 
something else. But what? Someone put me out of my mystery. (You can take my 
heart, it was always Glenn's.)

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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From raskolnikoff at xxx.net  Mon Jan 29 22:49:43 2001
From: raskolnikoff at xxx.net (Richard Skinner)
Date: 29 Jan 2001 22:49:43 +0000
Subject: Sinister: what are we going to do tommorrow bwrain?same thing we do
    everyday pinky try to take over the world
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From Something.Pretty at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 07:40:12 2001
From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:40:12 -0800
Subject: Sinister: and the clock turns and it's now
Message-ID: <001401c08a90$0addb6c0$319f7ad5@aqlzosqt>

i really think, don't you, that when ex-boyfriends become ex, they should be
ex-everything, and not be round your house at all hours of the day and night
being in love with someone else and making you sick of their stupid face?

i'm unfortunately drunk.  i thought i was advancing my career tonight
(networking and that) but now i'm considering the very real possibility that
i was just being drunk at people.

everyone on sinister seems to be living in glasgow now.  i miss glasgow.  i
miss certain people with acting ambitions and a disgustingly big record
collection.  i miss visiting there and being cold and wet and miserable but
knowing that insomnia or the 13th note is just around the corner.  i miss
never ever seeing any member of belle and sebastian.

also, everyone on sinister is now called jenny, or variations thereof.

it's like the stepford jennys.

several unconnected points, like stars in some not-very-good constellation:

1) i'm going to buy the future pilot record because it sounds like it would
be lovely.

2) irn-bru is horrible.  it tastes like what would happen if you scraped all
the rust off your old bike, added carbon dioxide, and then mixed it with
cherryade and marmite.

3) i'm getting a tattoo soon, but i'm still a little bit scared and would
appreciate advice from anyone who Knows.

and on...

so far the brighton meet-up is me and arantxa, and some secret special
guests (oops, i just typed 'gussets' then) who could be really cool so you'd
better come or you'll never know whether you missed a sinister event to be
Seen at.

speaking of which, i just noticed that there are 'picnic' pics of me on
carsmile steve's site (the man also occasionally known as 'vomiting steve',
for reasons which will be discreetly hidden from all but a few denizens of
glasgow's seedy underbelly...).  anyway, the camera lies.  i can neither
play pool nor 'party'.

but i can make good cheese sauce, according to my housemates.

yours, my own arch-enemy xxx

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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Jan 30 01:19:52 2001
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:19:52 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Oh classy, it's a bourgeiorsie!
Message-ID: <200101300113.BAA27813@missprint.org>

Hello,

Long time no see!  I promised myself I'd only post when I finished reading 
all the mail which there were loads of!  I am so tired, a backwash from a 
rather exhausting but fun week after exams which involved of course vodka 
and Red Bulls muchos and dancing and dancing and revolutioning.

Congratulations on Ms Vilkas who has seen the light of the delights of Vodka 
and Red Bull, and at a cheap price too, she also said:

>>..He suggested that vodka & RedBull is what you drink when you want to 
breakthings. When you want to make out in the middle of the dance floor 
but only after dancing on the table.<<

Hey!  Wait a minute, how comes I don't get the making out bit??!  Maybe 
this Valentine's day I will, if I try the dancing on table bit as well, 
or maybe not.

Everyone should learn O Come O Come Emmanuel on the guitar, it is so much 
fun to play, and pretend to be Sturan.  I would have pretended to be Isobel 
too, but I didn't have one of those headscarves that she comes with.

Vodka and Redbulls!
Ken
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You're the heroine, and you'll be doing fine.
Wouldn't you like to get away, bestowing the memories of good and evil
>From the ones you've left behind, heartless swine.
- Belle & Sebastian
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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From littlearsonist at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 02:07:44 2001
From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:07:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays
Message-ID: <20010130020744.3120.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com>


--- P F <pinefox at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The "Sinatra at Poughkeepsie" phrase is immortal. 

i was perusing chickfactor 13, and i saw the stevie
article, and i held it up to my mom and said, "dude,
i think i'm going to a new year's eve party at this 
guy's house."  

i live near pougkeepsie.


finally, i could no longer stay away.  i've been
inundated with sinisterness lately.  so much so that 
i've been paralyzed by the sheer overwhelming goddamn
tweeness of it all.  haha.  

two years ago (or so) i stumbled upon sinister.
one year ago (or so) i stumbled upon #sinister.
this year my new year's eve felt like one big long 
sinister post.  i was the sober one at stevie's party,
the one dancing with phil "bootylicious" oh.  

joe blessed us with lovely acoustic tunes, steady mike
impressed us with his moves on the dance floor, and 
julie distressed us with her ability to put away the
alcohol with the best of the brits, resulting in her
falling asleep as pam tried to engage her in 
conversation about her kick-ass platform shoes.

the ever fragrant and well-manicured honey played 
hostess (with a *ahem* bit of help from linda) to me
and julie and martin and carey.  carey and i got to 
sleep in twin beds like little bugs-in-rugs.  we slept
so soundly that we missed ant&dec on saturday morning.

this could fast turn into one of those "and then i did
This and then i did This" posts.  i'll try to stop it.

highlights included going into all of the bathroom 
stalls at the 13th note to see jenowl's graffiti.  i
wanted to call her up on sunday night when i was in 
glasgow, but carey said that little jen would surely 
have school the next day.  i still think she's a very
frightening figment of someone's imagination.  bah.
phil and i brought a little flava to the land of tea 
and milk and honey by teaching our delicate british 
comrades about that ephemeral concept we like to call 
Booty.  "no, stevie, britney hasn't got booty."  "no,
 ally, you definitely do Not have booty."  

we created a monster.  a monsta, even.  haha.

shout outs and props to martin, carey, Princess Honey
& linda, and stevie for puttin' my sorry ass up for
various amounts of time. also props to mark c. for
not making fun of me (too much) for sucking at pool.  
and to julie for putting up with my whiny ass through
hours of plane, train, and bus rides.  and and and...
all of yous.  mwah!

it's been a sinister month -- my UK adventures capped
off by a week in detroit rock city with my third and
best sinister crush, princess christiaan.  we're going
to raise cats together.  he's saucy; i'm sweet.


who loves you, baby?
ree-dawg, that's who.
peace out.
word.
xo.






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"Let me, for our happiness/ 
 Be the one to love the less." -dorothy parker

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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From ava60 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 02:39:43 2001
From: ava60 at xxx.com (Ava Arsaga)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:39:43 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Most Likely Old News
Message-ID: <F93eipEC1GEuquwVdo50000a3cc@hotmail.com>

At the risk of sounding behind the time and the news...i thought i'd mention 
to those of you who dont know it...that Napster was bought by Warner Bros. 
so you'd better hurry and download all you can because soon it wont be free 
anymore....I KNOW!!! No more free Belle and Sebastian (entered for 
content)et. al. ...anyways. im not sure if this news is old news....i hope 
it is to everyones benifit...Thanks for the laughs everybody.
Take Care,
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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From chamomile1 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 08:37:23 2001
From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:37:23 
Subject: Sinister: Don't be so anal about it, okey?
Message-ID: <F66JXrRjbDt3HvoFOAm00004648@hotmail.com>

Smut.

I'm glad to see that the good ol' days are back here at the wonderfoul world 
of Sinister. Spunk and stuff, you know. During my years here on this pretty 
planet we like to call Gurlagh, I've spent numerous hours gazing at the 
dictionary (finnish-english-finnish) looking for dirty words and their 
translations. Unfortunately the dictionary I've got is from 1973 (when Elvis 
was still high on bacon and eggs and... alive. Long live the king!) so no 
dirty words there, thank you very much. But I found a way: Once I went to 
the library, grabbed the biggest dictionary I could find and started to go 
through my list. Anal, boobs, chest, cock, etc. But that was years ago, and 
I'm all fine and dandy now, no strange obsessions anymore (foot fetish is 
not strange, is it?).

I've never rated Elvis. Guess I'm too young.

MY ALBUMREVIEW: STONE ROSES: THE REMIXES

Blame it all on John Squire. Is he short on cash? Is there ANYTHING good 
he's done since the Roses' first album? His ego is bigger than mine, it 
seems.

THE MAGNETIC FIELDS: 69 LOVESONGS

No, no, no. Not too much money spent on that album. Sounds horrible. Twat. 
Thank god P. Miller (was it him? I forgot already) finally spoke the truth 
here.

THE POSIES

Best band ever to come from the States. Underrated in the UK, aren't they? 
Has anyone heard their stuff? I tried to browse through NME pages but 
couldn't find anything about them. No reviws, just a small mention that Ken 
Stringfellow toured with REM.

Speed 2 was on telly last night, but Big Train was on at the same time on 
another channel. Bye bye Sandra Bullock and your heavenly face, in come the 
laughter. Big Train = the Flying Circus of the 21 century.

I'm getting sick and tired of listening to music that has no balls. The 
worst part of it: I'm, ehem, starting to like some hip hop- stuff I've 
heard. Not those boys from the ghetto, though: Don Johnson Big Band rules my 
world at the moment. You've never heard of them? Well, they're finnish, 
funky as hell and quite possible the best thing in hip hop since the glory 
days of The Beastie Boys. Even their name is brilliant. I'm going to see 
them live in two weeks time. Send me some mail and I might tape you their 
latest (and only) album "Support da microphones" (DJBB, not BB). 73 minutes 
of sheer groove.


Over and out.

-Jake "I can do this without touching my zipper, see? ... oh bugger" PetitE
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 03:14:30 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:14:30 EST
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
Message-ID: <3d.6bda941.27a78b96@aol.com>

downloading free belle and sebastian then who in hell is supporting them? and 
people wonder why bands are so slow on the uptake of making new 
albums...while i don't want to go on the "woe is belle and sebastian" rant, i 
wonder how bands really feel about people downloading their music at no 
costs. sure...it's great...but you have to wonder where to draw the 
line...and just how *you* support your favorite artists. 

it's almost comparable to liking a painting, finding a picture, printing it, 
and then framing it... furthermore, going to school the next day and ranting 
and raving about your new wall hanging. I mean to say that the quality is 
rarely there...plus there is also something to be said for working (or 
sparechanging) for your favorite album. It's like this, people...music 
becomes cheap when you have such accessibility to it.

Where are the good ole days that you had to wait til you got home to find out 
if your new CD sucked. Napster has ruined the evolutionary process of the 
music cycle.  I once got a Tindersticks album for free because the boy that 
bought it found out that he didn't like it...and gave it to me....I can bet 
my bowl o' cherries that won't happen again. There is a sort of food chain of 
music collecting that is dying here. And while you all think you are getting 
this great sneaky, clean free music, someone is paying the price...and its 
almost like cutting off your nose to spite your face.  One could argue in 
defense that live concerts is where all the money is made, though I doubt 
that (e.g., Magnetic Fields just played for four dollars) heh.

I look forward to the end to Napster...then I don't have to listen to those 
fruity tooty girls on the bus talking about how they just heard the most 
unbelievable version of Radiohead or Badly Drawn Boy's-  this or that. I mean 
once people have to pay for it again they are only really prone to seek out 
the good stuff, and not even the good stuff...but what they won't consider a 
waste of time and money. and then we can get back to knowing who genuinely 
likes great music and who is just willing to download it because it's free. 
Just because someone downloads a few cut tracks of an album doesn't make them 
a fan of the band.

Furthermore, well screw it...I am getting off of my soapbox now...and I 
realise that most of you like Napster, as I have read several posts that are 
indicative of such, so I am just going to stop now. But before I go...I 
should tell you this...I have nearly everything by belle and sebastian (that 
is accessible to me) and I praise every blowjob I gave to see to such.

Double Heh.

Isabel Lark
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From Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 30 10:14:10 2001
From: Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk (Ruth A. Deller)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:14:10 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Sorry, dissertation call one last time!
In-Reply-To: <F66JXrRjbDt3HvoFOAm00004648@hotmail.com>
References: <F66JXrRjbDt3HvoFOAm00004648@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc.005b909e00b4608a3b9aca001354e161.b460d1@athena.shu.ac.uk>

Sorry, I know I only ever seem to post about this subject, but this is one last
call to any of you that are up for helping me with my dissertation by answering
some questions.

Thanks to all who've already offered, you should have received your
questionnaires (if not, please tell me).  If anyone else wants to help, email
me or visit the online questionnaire at
http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~radeller/bsfans.htm

Cheers

Rad xxxxxx


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 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From AWillia at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 11:32:49 2001
From: AWillia at xxx.com (Andrew Williams (UKHQ - Merch))
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:32:49 -0500
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
Message-ID: <CA52872BEA6FD41182A50008C724B2300C8308@CORP01UK>

Okay, so Isabel sez:

> I look forward to the end to Napster...then I don't have to 
> listen to those 
> fruity tooty girls on the bus talking about how they just 
> heard the most 
> unbelievable version of Radiohead or Badly Drawn Boy's-  this 
> or that. I mean 
> once people have to pay for it again they are only really 
> prone to seek out 
> the good stuff, and not even the good stuff...but what they 
> won't consider a 
> waste of time and money. and then we can get back to knowing 
> who genuinely 
> likes great music and who is just willing to download it 
> because it's free. 
> Just because someone downloads a few cut tracks of an album 
> doesn't make them 
> a fan of the band.

Isn't this kind of a snobbish attitude to have? It all smacks a bit of "I
was a mod before you was a mod" to me... Surely there's a pretty obvious
distinction between people who use Napster to download whole albums which
are available in the shops (which is essentially stealing) and people who
download tracks which are not, and indeed may never be available - long
deleted B-sides, live tracks, radio sessions, etc, etc.

> Where are the good ole days that you had to wait til you got 
> home to find out 
> if your new CD sucked. Napster has ruined the evolutionary 
> process of the 
> music cycle.

I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would sit trawling through
everything on Napster rather than buying stuff, particularly when nearly
every record shop in the land will give you your money back if you don't
like a CD. It's like the argument against people swapping tapes, ie, pretty
flimsy. Besides, you've been able to listen to CDs in most record shops
before you buy them for years, so what's the difference? 

 And while you all think 
> you are getting 
> this great sneaky, clean free music, someone is paying the 
> price...and its 
> almost like cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

People have been saying that "X" will destroy the music industry for time
immemorial, and guess what, it ain't happening. I'm not saying we should be
complacent, or take for granted the beautiful music that's being made at the
moment, but Napster isn't hurting anybody other than bands who rip off their
fans by charging too much for their products or releasing shoddy material
which isn't worth paying for. 

But hey, that's just my opinion...

Andrew.
 
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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 13:03:17 2001
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:03:17 -0500
Subject: Sinister: fake plastic london
Message-ID: <F26VJpjc0D543TuylJc00003d68@hotmail.com>

well, i had a loverly sinister weekend...in london no doubt. but it wasn't 
in the fantasy filled london where my friends all seem to be immigrating to, 
no it was london, ontario. wahoo...a now decaying uni town. shame really, it 
has one of the oldest theatres in north america, not that anyone goes to it 
anymore.
i gots to meet a whole crew of beele & sebeebstian fans, and one almost too 
well. i didn't realize her offers of tea with breakfast meant that i'd 
already have slept over there the night previous. the sad thing was that it 
had to be explained to me all after, i had no clue. whoda thunk it??? she 
did have a great apartment (i saw it the next night...) and she's an artist 
and has her paintings all over the place, and i kept looking through her 
cd's and stuff and we had too many things the same. then i got to look 
through her vinyl collection, sweet...i almost fell in love right there 
*sigh* too bad she was a woman...
k...i'll be sad when napster starts charging...i mean think about it, every 
country in the world has a similar institution, it called a library...the 
written word hasn't suffered from people being able to read books for 
free...granted, i do think that ppl who download an entire album, track for 
track are missing the point...but i wouldn't have got the black sessions or 
whatever without senor naptster...
hmmm...i'm at work now, i guess i'll go back to sleep...
see you all in #sinister, i think flo_capp can finally be put to rest...

a.

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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 13:01:14 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:01:14 EST
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
Message-ID: <f3.706148a.27a8151a@aol.com>

indeed...just your opinion. which is why it's so contradictory that you would 
call me on mine.  and as far as mod before mod was cool...I don't know about 
that...however, there is a country song titled "i was country when country 
wasn't cool" why don't you go download it. and apparently my rant was 
slightly misunderstood. I don't think that there is anything truly wrong with 
getting music that's inaccessible...

i agree with you, lucy alder. and you are possibly the exception. i think if 
people actually buy the cd afterwards, well then, that is one thing, but I 
think more times than not...people consider themselves as having it...and 
don't buy it. I guess if contradiction is king...then i am it's 
queen...because I too have downloaded rare belle and sebastian tracks...but 
they are on my computer at work...and thats where they stay.  I should also 
mention that I only found out about Looper by downloading what was titled 
"belle and sebastian- burning flies" it took me several months to find out 
what was going on with that...but then I did...and now own looper-up a tree. 
but what if I hadn't...what if I thought for years that belle and sebastian 
was looper and vice versa. Again, I agree with you whole-heartedly...and if 
everyone could be as trusted as you and I...then I think napster could be a 
wonderful thing...but it seems that the downside outweighs the good. and I 
bet one time we used to be able to walk around naked...but some wingnut kept 
getting a hard-on and poking all the girls...and we probably used to be able 
to openly share our opinions without seeming like an ass...or being called 
hoity-toity or whatever...but those days are over too.

Also, if you are going to see bands that rip people off and are making too 
much money...then i am sorry...especially since you seemingly know 
better...indie pop is a little different though....and I don't think any of 
us here are seeing Alanis Morrisett for twenty five dollars...or however much 
tickets for shit music go for. but I am willing to bet, again, my bowl o' 
cherries that there are in fact people that go through every single 
file...and furthermore, I get this horrible mental picture everytime someone 
says something like "get all you can...warner brothers bought napster" i see 
all of these snot nosed skee bob wearing kids locking themselves in their 
rooms and downloading like mad.

Incidentally, I don't think that tape swap is much of a valid argument...so I 
agree that it is rather "flimsey" as you say...though I already don't like 
agreeing with you.

but the tape argument is different...as it's actually indicative of someone 
having bought the music in order to copy it. There is no such thing with 
napster.

and yeah, I guess I am somewhat of an elitist when it comes to music. Please, 
pretty please, fault me for that. It's sort of a compliment where I come 
from. Almost comparable to you Brits and your television.

And when you say "Every record store in the land" just what land are you 
speaking of? where i come from we have to trek twenty-one miles into 
town...sometimes in the rain and mud...get to the record store...buy 
something...we don't get to hear it first. and there are no refunds...we trek 
it back twenty-one miles (again, in the rain and mud) and run straight to the 
cd player while mom yells about tracking mud...put a cd in and dance like 
mad. or curse with tourettes...whichever the case may be. so yeah, my 
upbringing has taught me to be very choicy...and that is hardly my opinion, 
but a way of life. and thats how you know the difference. one is subject to 
change...the other is constant. 

triple heh.

oh how i love a debate.

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From Toadie29 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 15:32:31 2001
From: Toadie29 at xxx.com (Toadie29 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:32:31 EST
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
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In a message dated 1/30/01 3:47:02 AM, AWillia at bordersgroupinc.com writes:

<< 

People have been saying that "X" will destroy the music industry for time

immemorial, and guess what, it ain't happening. I'm not saying we should be

complacent, or take for granted the beautiful music that's being made at the

moment, but Napster isn't hurting anybody other than bands who rip off their

fans by charging too much for their products or releasing shoddy material

which isn't worth paying for. 
 >>

here i am from lurkerdom.  i am sort of in the middle of both sides of the 
napster argument.  i mean, while i can see how people would want to hear 
rarities and all, there are only sooooo many versions of one song you can 
here without it getting redundant.   and as for napster ruining music.  well, 
this is actually the first time the music industry was in any type of 
jeapordy.  and that isnt to say that it is soley the fault of napster and 
similar mp3 sites, it is just the reality of our world.  in the past 3 or 4 ye
ars some of the biggest record companies have been bought, sold, forced into 
monopolistic mergers and just plain run out of business.  people dont spend 
money on music the way they used to.  and unfortunately, record companies are 
a sort of neccessary evil.   they allow the musicians we love to do what they 
do.  as for bands ripping off their fans for music which isnt worth paying 
for.  i suppose that would be relative to how you felt about said band.  for 
example, a band that i would pay 50 quid for a rare cd by, many of you would 
not even consider worthy of downloading on napster.  so even though you may 
feel brittney spears is ripping off her fans by charging £20 for a pillow 
with her lovely face on the front, those who are buying the merchandise dont 
look at it that way.  does that make sense.  oh well.  i shall shut up now as 
i could go on about this subject for days.  :o)  talk to y'all soon.
~stine

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From cellophanesky at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 16:53:06 2001
From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:53:06 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Home Downloading Is Killing Home Taping Is Killing Music
Message-ID: <a05010401b69c94a1624d@[209.246.107.82]>

Dear Sinister,
	Odd we've never discussed this before. Isabel you seem to be 
quoting posts which I did not receive without actually quoting them 
in your letters, so if someone has taken this tack I apologize but it 
didn't make it to my inbox. But I think you can draw a nice bundle of 
parallels between Napster and our old friend the Cassette.
	Both of them give us a capacity we did not have prior to 
their inception. Cassettes allowed us to make custom mixes for 
friends, thereby exposing them to new music and encouraging them to 
spend more money. Yayyyy capitalism. Napster allows us to test out 
tracks by bands we're curious about before we consider spending money 
on them. Cassettes allowed us to make copies of recordings which were 
not made available to the general public. Napster does also.
	Both can be abused. Some people have been known to copy 
entire albums on cassette. In fact the record industry once feared 
that this would spell its demise. Yes someone needs to buy an album 
before they can copy it onto a cassette first, but MP3s need a CD to 
be ripped from in order to be made just as cassettes need a source. 
Perhaps Napster is a more convincing because it is closer to hi-fi 
and it's easier and quicker.
	Okay, and some rumor control. Warner Brothers did *not* buy 
out Napster. Napster already entered into an agreement with 
Bertelsmann, so Warner would probably have to buy them out in order 
to do this. Napster *is* planning on switching to a fee-based service 
as early as Summer, and I for one am willing to pay if they have a 
fair system of paying artists whose songs are downloaded.
	Peer-to-peer file-sharing as a distribution for music is not 
going to go away, even if Napster does. I'm not trying to say CDs 
will be irrelevant anytime soon, but Napster or its possible 
successors will be around, and in the end they will not be free. The 
music industry had a record year last year, people *are* spending 
money on music like they used to. More than they used to even. In a 
high-bandwidth world, a free Napster would definately affect some 
bottom lines, but more likely than not the same 5 labels will be 
present in whatever final form Napster or its successor takes. I just 
hope the consumer doesn't get screwed in the process, like they 
usually do. The consumer and artists certainly stand a good chance of 
coming out ahead.
	Incidentally, to anyone who's tried unsuccessfully to 
download B&S rarities from me, please be patient. I apologize for my 
slow connection, but it's the best I can offer without fear of legal 
reprisal.

-- 
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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 16:58:52 2001
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:58:52 -0800
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
Message-ID: <F1046A7oPiFEW6sStwN00009b39@hotmail.com>

IsabelLark said,"i wonder how bands really feel about people downloading 
their music at no costs."

Well, speaking as a person who makes music and has been in and out of the 
industry. (and I think I'm not quite alone in those aspects here on the 
list), I would say that most musicians I've talked to are welcoming the 
change that Napster is bringing to the bloated record industry. Yes....even 
(quote unquote)indie rock! (whatever that means anymore!)Most bands do not 
make money off record sales. The money is in publishing rights and 
merchandizing.

1)MP3 swapping has broadened most people's range of musical taste.

2)Mp3 swapping is changing the way we think about art and music. More flow 
instead of commodity.

3)If you really want to get righteous, information and art should always be 
free. If you are making music for music's sake, then the more people that 
listen to it, the effect the songs have on music in general and the 
expurgation of that music from your soul will be reward enough.

Anything else is just extra!

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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 17:52:27 2001
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:52:27 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-Glasgow, Napster, Harold/Maude, etc
Message-ID: <F2316BDIgagBw0S8Vel00003bfb@hotmail.com>

Hello hello,
How are you (all)?  I'm ok...I just forced myself to get up at the unholy 
hour of 9 am.  Ugh.  I was wondering if anyone managed to listen to 
kittenmouse radio last night on the internet (8-10 pm PST at www.kpsu.org).  
No big deal.  Just curious.

Anyway, after hearing about the 13th Note many times on sinister, I was 
wondering, where is it in comparison to the art school in Glasgow?  Is it 
close by--maybe within walking distance?

Regarding Napster, they officially are going to start charging subscription 
fees for downloading music off their site.  Some observations:
a)Most people I know download things they are going to buy later at a show.
b)I never really could find more than one or two songs by most of the small 
independent artists that claim their albums were being ruined from being 
uploaded onto Napster.
c)Most cd's from mainstream artists are $18 (U.S.) and not only would I 
never pay that much, I probably wouldn't download whatever crappy remix of 
Mariah Carey or Eminem that someone uploaded onto Napster anyway.

Who cares, anyway?  It's all been blown up to be way bigger than it is.  
There are bigger things to worry about, like the MPAA taking away 'fair use' 
rights from people.

Also, finally saw Harold and Maude last weekend.  Great movie.  I think the 
late 60's/early 70's are my fave years for movies.

-Andrea

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From lgluhani at xxx.edu  Tue Jan 30 17:54:34 2001
From: lgluhani at xxx.edu (glu)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:54:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
In-Reply-To: <45.1ac206b.27a8388f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101301225330.29606-100000@tempest.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

> here without it getting redundant.   and as for napster ruining music.  well, 
> this is actually the first time the music industry was in any type of 
> jeapordy.  
NOOOO  The music industry has adjusted to and corrupted many new
innovations, most significantly tapes, MTV and the internet.  And it was
the same thing where they began scoffing at it, then figured out they'd
better get involved or they will get left behind.  The ironic thing is
that it seems to be the hardcore fans that push for and make these
innovations materialize.  Then, the corporate influence comes down, mass
markets, and reduces it to mostly crap. And Frank Zappa was the first to
release a double album - going against his label and paying the extra
expenses himself.  Now they are everywhere, and once again, usually crap.
> monopolistic mergers and just plain run out of business.  people dont spend 
> money on music the way they used to. 
YES they do.  Even more money than they used to.  I don't forsee the music
industry going down anytime soon.  At least not for lack of willing
customers - more likely for lack of labels willing to sign anyone not
guaranteed to go triple platimun. 
http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?genreNameForDisplay=Rock

http://www.launch.com/music/content/1,5850,170115,00.html
is another interesting story telling another side of napster.

> do.  as for bands ripping off their fans for music which isnt worth paying 
> for.  i suppose that would be relative to how you felt about said band.  for 
> example, a band that i would pay 50 quid for a rare cd by, many of you would 
> not even consider worthy of downloading on napster.  so even though you may 
> feel brittney spears is ripping off her fans by charging �20 for a pillow 
> with her lovely face on the front, those who are buying the merchandise dont 
> look at it that way.  does that make sense.  oh well.  i shall shut up now as 
I don't really know the point of this.  But suffice to say, most of my
napster material is from artists where I own everything released, or
pretty damn close.  Some are classic songs I could get on any compilation
album(and how much money does the artist get from those?)  And some, I
can't even figure out where the guy is FROM, much less anything he may
have released (Mike Fiore - anyone know ANYTHING about this guy??)

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From brier at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 18:37:35 2001
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:37:35 -0800
Subject: Sinister: How most bands make money
Message-ID: <048301c08aeb$b7562e40$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Someone said:
"Most bands do not make money off record sales. The money is in publishing
rights and merchandizing."

No.  MOST bands don't have action figures and pencil-cases.  And no one
cares about using their songs in Volkswagen commercials.  MOST bands make
all their money off CD sales and live gigs.  It's not a world of Britneys.


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From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 30 18:37:57 2001
From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:37:57 +0000
Subject: Sinister: full of televisions and wellingtons
Message-ID: <fc.005b8ff100ab79f2005b8ff100ab79f2.ab7aee@amazon.shu.ac.uk>

blimely charile ! what a day of debating. it has been very good well argued  points from both
sides, thats what i like about this sinster thing everone seems quite intellegent and can back the
view points up with reasoned argument.

so yeah napster/ mps.com i don't know, i was inspired by this debating  so i took a look at mp3.com
and being failry egotatsical typed in the name of the band i played in three years ago, and what
did it come up with ? just so much information about stikkelbrix i was amazed, it was like the
music we made threee years ago can be heared anywhere in the world by anyone and i'm so proud of
the fact that we are in there i think its a good thing even if we dont get money from it we get
heard its just so amazing i delved deeper in to mp3.com and found we had four songs in the charts!
number 15 was our highest entry.

so people are saying its killing the music industry?  i'm not so sure the internet is just changing
the way we buy records. Evolution if you  like

anyway enough of that just thought i'd give you my thoughts, but they are only my thoughts and are
subjective, prehaps someone will write a paper on it and being objective about who knows....

i listened to belle and sebastain for the first time in weeks today whilst i was sat in a tea shop
called lyn's pantry it was very strange i didnt know sheffield had any teashops it was full of
smelly old woman and they looked at me like i was a freak but i liked that.
i went up to cole brothers and bought a terracota pot although i have yet to decide what to plant
in it.  i quite like the idea of a bannana plant we shall just have to wait and see. 

i am currentley listening to greenday and i dont know what song it is but it sounds like the
levellers! how strange. 

anyway i shall leave you with this dream i had:

i was on hoilday travelling round OZ with isabel cambells sister and she made me carry this huge
bag which when i opened it up it was full of televisions and wellingtons, it makes no sense prehaps
this is what comes of late night pizza eating sessions... 

Nigel Love

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From kitsapcd at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 19:45:11 2001
From: kitsapcd at xxx.com (Disc Go Round Bremerton)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:45:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Patsy Cline speaks the truth, the whole truth, & nothing but!
Message-ID: <20010130194511.2104.qmail@web6301.mail.yahoo.com>

  Content: "Seeing Other People" has become a
recurring theme in my life as of late, and not in a
good way.  This used to be one of my favorite songs,
but I'm starting to resent it for pointing out the
obvious.  Indeed, exes should stay exes.  No good can
come from trying to be "just friends".  Bah!
  Anyhoo, here's a funny Red Bull story for all you
beverage freaks out there:  mediocre power forward Vin
Baker of my beloved Seattle Supersonics was
hosptialized last weekend for heart palpitations
caused by what the media were officially calling an
"energy drink".  And what do you think that energy
drink was?  That's right!  RED BULL!  Now, Vin Baker
is no small kid, and he overdosed on Red Bull?  What a
puss.  Maybe if we throw some vodka in it his game
will improve.
  Rachel Playforth (sorry if I messed up your name)
asked for tattoo advice.  I've been tattooed six
times, and will be going in for more in a few months,
so I think I can give some helpful hints.  First thing
everyone asks is "Does it hurt?"  HELL YES it hurts! 
It feels a bit like a bee sting, only the bee is
stinging you 300 times a minute and is going halfway
through to the bone.  But it's a good pain, and it
goes away.  The healing process (which I'm currently
enduring) is, in my opinion, much worse than the
actual tattooing.  Once your ink gets scabby and
gross, it itches soooo bad it makes you teeth hurt and
there's nothing you can do about it.  Aftercare is
what makes or breaks your tattoo.  If the scab comes
off too early or if you use anything will any
antibiotic anything in it (i.e Neosporin, Bacitracin,
etc.) the ink won't set in your skin right and you'll
have to get it touched up.  But once the scab comes
off and the new skin heals, it's all worth it.  Just
make sure you are 100% sure of the design you want,
and that the artist you're going to is reputable and
hygenic.  Ask your tattooed friends for
recommendations, and talk to the artist before you
committ to anything.  Nothing's worse than being
worked on my someone you don't completely trust or
like--trust me.  Good luck, and keep us up to date.
  By the way, does anyone know if Stuart David's
naughty book will be available in the U.S?
  
  XOXOXOXO-
  Jen (jerkgirl)

  p.s. I've been Jenny for the better part of 28
years-no Stepford Jenny here!  Besides, with a line
like "everyone thinks she's really ugly...", who'd
want to call themselves after that song?

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From david at xxx.uk  Tue Jan 30 19:56:53 2001
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:56:53 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Survey results and why Napster is a great thing!
Message-ID: <MABBIEGAGBDOGHPKCDMHKENFCAAA.david@belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk>

Hello there Sinister!

--Results--
The votes are in and have been painstakingly counted. No need for Florida
style recounts here!

The winners in each category were as follows...

Best album of 2000 (nearly 90 different albums were nominated)
1. Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant
2. Radiohead - Kid A
3. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs *

Best song from 2000 (well over 100 different songs were nominated)
1. Belle & Sebastian - There's Too Much Love
2. Belle & Sebastian - Legal Man
=3. Radiohead - Optimistic
=3. Belle & Sebastian - Waiting For The Moon To Rise
=3. Belle & Sebastian - Woman's Realm
=3. Belle & Sebastian  - I Fought In A War

Most popular band (based on number of songs nominated in Best song category)
1. Belle & Sebastian (8 different songs nominated)
2. Radiohead (7 different songs nominated)
=3. Sigur Ros (4 different songs nominated)
=3. Lambchop (4 different songs nominated)

Most popular band (based on votes)
1. Belle & Sebastian
2. The Magnetic Fields
3. Baxendale

Albums from 2000 which most people regret buying
1. Radiohead - Kid A
2. Coldplay - Parachutes
=3. Richard Ashcroft - Alone With Everyone
=3. The Go-Betweens - The Friends Of Rachel Worth

You may have spotted a bit of a pattern emerging there (B&S dominating
almost everything), so here are the results for the two main categories with
B&S disregarded...

Best album
1. Radiohead - Kid A
2. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
3. The Delgadoes - The Great Eastern

Best Song
1. Radiohead - Optimistic
=2. Yo La Tengo - Our Way To Fall
=2. Badly Drawn Boy - Once Around The Block

No major surprises there I guess, B&S were clearly everybodys favourites
with the rest of the vote fairly evenly spread between loads of bands.
Interesting to note that 8 different B&S songs were nominated, and those
were (in order of most votes)...

1. There's Too Much love
2. Legal Man
3. Woman's Realm
=4. Waiting For The Moon To Rise
=4. I Fought In A War
6. The Model
7. Don't Leave The Lights On Baby
8. Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner

That's more than enough statistics for anyone to handle in one sitting. I
have posted the full results on my website
(www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk). Go and look, see where your votes
went. Also you can see the best gigs list and the memories of 2000.

--Napster (my opinion)--
I love the whole Napster thing. I love the idea of being able to hear a
track before going out and spending money on an album I might not like. Far
from stifling music surely it encourages people to listen to bands they
would not normally listen too. For instance I downloaded a few Grandaddy
tracks off Napster having never heard the band but having heard good things
about them. I would (and probably will) happily purchase the album now. Also
somebody explain how am I costing anybody money if I download a tune or two
that I would never have bought anyway? Example: I downloaded the Supergrass
track 'Moving' off Napster because I liked it. I did not like it enough to
warrant spending 15 quid on the album and do not like any of the other album
tracks I have heard, so what harm am I doing? I'm not going to spend £15 or
more on an album just to hear a single track that I might have liked. If I
download it from Napster it's not costing anybody anything cos I would never
have purchased it anyway.
And even if Napster does go all commercialised, it won't stop people
listening to "illegal" music. Bootleg CDs or pirated CDs are hardly a new
thing (anybody who's been to the Barras in Glasgow will be well aware that
there are loads of stalls selling illegal CDs) but they've hardly destroyed
the music industry have they? And other file sharing software is freely
available which does exactly the same as Napster (Imesh for example).

That's enough of this nonsense from me, don't forget to check out the survey
results at www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

Dave
david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

*Sorry P F, I decided that it had to go in because it got so many votes,
even though it might have first been released in 1999 in the US.

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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 20:34:21 2001
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:34:21 EST
Subject: Sinister: if everyone is...
Message-ID: <4d.6c700a9.27a87f4d@aol.com>



I think in some respects Napster and Mp3s could be greatest things that ever 
happened to the world of music.  I'm sure with the new pay-for-play system 
major labels will have a much stronger presence, but essentially ANYONE can 
be on there and have their music heard by people outside their everyday 
lives.  Where is the problem?  Music is not just for the privliged and if a 
person is upset because someone deemed "not cool" is listening to "cool" 
music, then I think its this person's thinking that needs changing and not 
the system .  I'm very sorry, but you'll have to share; this world would be 
infinitely easier to survive in if people didn't make such arbitrary 
distinctions and did a little more sharing instead.  As for artists not 
recieving monetary compensation for their efforts, when in the hell was this 
guaranteed to begin with?  I've played in bands since high school, everyone 
of which made a self-released album and not one of which recieved a damn 
cent.  Its a fringe benefit of being in a band, not a guarantee or a birth 
right.  As several people have pointed out, ask most artists and they'll tell 
you that reaching new people is far more rewarding than worrying about how 
their album is selling.  The fact of the matter is that albums are selling at 
a record pace and people are hearing about bands they never would have been 
exposed to otherwise, yet somehow people are still decrying the whole program 
in the name of "fairness."


In a message dated 1/30/01 9:44:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
IsabelLark at aol.com writes:

<< where i come from we have to trek twenty-one miles into 
 town...sometimes in the rain and mud...get to the record store...buy 
 something...we don't get to hear it first. and there are no refunds...we 
trek 
 it back twenty-one miles (again, in the rain and mud) and run straight to 
the 
 cd player while mom yells about tracking mud...put a cd in and dance like 
 mad. or curse with tourettes...whichever the case may be. >>


While this ritual may be forced upon you, let's not spoil it for those of us 
who can avoid being shafted to the tune of $15.  This is sounding oddly like 
my ancient grandfather, always lambasting the latest things to make us kids 
"soft."  Its getting rid of the voodoo of the marketplace.  I've known 
countless people who have bought a CD by a totally obscure band because of 
tracks they heard on the internet.  If no one could hear a record before they 
bought it, they would most likely be buying based on image rather than actual 
quality, would they not?  That doesn't sound like a very "indie-friendly" 
concept to me.  How this is supposed to be more advantageous to anyone is 
beyond comprehension.  It sounds more like a case of "I did it the hard way 
and so should everyone of you."  Thanks, but no thanks...
The Ravens won the Super Bowl on Sunday...believe it or not, I'm still 
glowing.

Steve C.
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From vodkabird at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 20:53:19 2001
From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com)
Date: 30 Jan 2001 15:53:19 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Taking a nap and wiping the Dairylea off your nose
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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 21:37:38 2001
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:37:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: you know you never gonna be ghetto fabulous
References: <4d.6c700a9.27a87f4d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c08b04$de7c6c00$778401d5@com>


Hi,

My boyfriend works for an internet Mp3 company, anyone want to take him
outside? I'm in a bit of a mood with him today. Whilst we're on the subject
of Mp3's, there is one that you simply have to get - that single which I was
talking about: Ghetto Fabulous by Baxendale is now available to download
from www.musicforgirls.co.uk

It samples Dog on Wheels, and it's hotter than a bitch on heat.

I have a request - somebody who used to be on this list took me to a place
called the Dive Bar perhaps two years ago. I think it's in Soho, but every
time I've tried to find it since, I've never suceeded. So does anybody know
where it is? because I'm fed up of dragging boys around China Town telling
them it must be there somewhere.

Erica
x



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From dougalshaw at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 22:00:51 2001
From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:00:51 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <LAW2-F227PasSmz6UuE000000bd@hotmail.com>

either

'I think Napster's great', said Bono on an MTV video, 'popstars like myself 
are vastly overpaid'. What false magnaminity from the mouth of the jumped up 
Gaelic-rock millionaire. If he was unsuccessful, impoverished  and just 
starting out his views would be  the same as Lars Ulrich, the uber-Napster 
enemy. Intellectual property is a public good, that's why it was created, to 
create the conditions for diversity and individual endeavour and creativity 
to flourish. If
people don't get the reward and recognition for their artistic 
achievements(which means financial reward as well), the music won't happen. 
(except for purists like Belle and Sebastian, who don't mind keeping music 
amateur, and working part-time as Church Janitors a la Stuart - would like 
to see Bono doing that).

or

People will always have the same disposable income to spend on music, so
people will access more music through Napster and the record industry will 
get the same money into its coffers somehow. This is good. Also, people will 
still desire the object. In the late 1920's when folk music was first put to 
acetate, it was assumed nobody would buy&nbsp;the music  because it was 
there in the oral tradition around them. Until the Depression kicked in, 
shedloads (literally) of records were sold, because hicks, like all of us, 
are enamoured with the
physical object - thus commodity fetishism was born and the record industry 
baptised. Personally, I feel the same desire. I can't help buying CDs on 
sale, even when I know I've got the tracks on my hardrive. As for becoming 
offended when 'hoity-toity' (presumably this is an American term, like 
valley girl) people deign to like the same music in public, that's an awful 
attitude. It's like music is a religious sect and they are false-believers 
or something. There's nothing wrong with elitism in musical preference, but
everything wrong with intolerance.

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From mecurtin at xxx.ca  Tue Jan 30 22:14:03 2001
From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (M. Curtin)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:14:03 -0500
Subject: Sinister: We're Barbie and the ROCKERS! Dress so cool we're totally in the groove (in the GROOVE!)
Message-ID: <001301c08b09$f46fad60$e6d66481@alh.reznet.uwo.ca>

Salvete!

I normally like to avoid posting, and I'm sure you normally like when I
don't post either, but we'll all just have to cope....
The whole NapsterAngel/Devil conversation reminded me of a conversation I
had with my best friend years ago.  Though we are the best of friends, we
have differering music tastes, aside from Stan Getz, Barbie and the ROckers
and the soundtrack to Jesus Christ Superstar.  Anyway, one year she got an
alarm clock, but it was the kind where you could put your own CD in and wake
up to whatever you like.  I was quite covetous of this - imagine waking up
to Sleep the Clock Around on a daily basis? - but she was a little upset.
Her words were:

"I wish you could put a tape in this because all I listen to is mix tapes.
I never get CDs because by the time I buy one, it's already out of style!"

Yes, fair Jillian, heaven forbid you buy an unpopular piece of music.
That's really the only point of Napster (though I do prefer Audiogalaxy*) -
girls want to get J.Lo's new song so they can blare it out of their computer
while they slut-it-up to go out to the bar.  Then they can delete it when
it's gauche.  It's an unending cycle (trust me - I have to live with it).

On a lighter note, I received The Dears' CD in the mail yesterday.  As if
it's not fantastic enough getting packages in the mail, the contents of this
one were STELLAR!  I highly recommend them.

Speaking Dears arriving, a certain Angel Blackwell said he made an
appearance in my fair place of abode.  Hmm....he actually managed to scrape
up Belliphiles in London (ON)!  I had given up hope as I thought there are
far too many Roots postergirlsandboys for meaningful listenership, but I
stand corrected.  Keep up the good work.

I'll leave now, so you can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Au reservoir
Marybeth

*I only use it to get rare things I cannot buy ANYWHERE and to find things
like the theme to The Littlest Hobo.  It's a sad existence.  However, on
Thursday, Leslie Nielsen guest starred on the Littlest Hobo - so how's that
for class?

P.S.  Am i the only one with enough time on my hands to notice that in Nick
Drake's version of Tomorrow is Such a Long Time he uses the subjunctive, but
in Nana Mouskouri's version she uses the indicative?  These things are
important, you know...

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From paul.rudolph.b at xxx.com  Tue Jan 30 22:37:08 2001
From: paul.rudolph.b at xxx.com (paul.rudolph.b at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:37:08 -0500
Subject: Sinister: warning:  napster debate (an econ perspective)
Message-ID: <OFD95271AC.3F0BC881-ON852569E4.0066C688@pitts.bayer.com>

What many economists say will be the effects of rapid, easy access to
information brought on by increasingly more sophisticated communications
technology and information technology (what we will see in the next 50 to
100 years):

1)  We will pay a predetermined rate to access music and listen to it.  Sales of
      physical cds/tapes will be a thing of the past (as well as the cd player).

2)  Per item number one, we will have access to thousands and thousands of
     recordings.

3)  It will be easier for less popular musicians to be accessed by their "niche"
     markets due to item number two.  Indie fans take note.

4)  It will be easier for anyone to make an intricate recording and put it on
the web for
     access by others.

5)  The big money is not in listening rights (analogous to record sales today)
but in
      artists using their celebrity to market other products.

Record companies are hesitant to change because they have a proven business
model in existence.  Eventually, they will be forced to change due to the
increased
prevalence of music (due to Napster and others like it).  Remember, as something
becomes more prevalent, it becomes less valuable!  Obviously, it is easier and
easier to reproduce and transmit music (and knowledge, too) these days.

But, at the same time, these technology innovations have created and will create
many more opportunities for celebrity - many more opportunities to use what they
have that is of value - celebrity.  How this will relate to groups of a similar
popularity
to Belle & Sebastian, well, aside from items number two and three above, it
really
doesn't affect them.  Groups like this will only be able to capitalize on their
celebrity
to the extent of their celebrity.  Obviously, the groups that appeal to the
masses will
be able to exploit their celebrity to the highest degree.

Sorry to bore you all about this - send your medical bills to me.

Cheers,

Paul


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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 00:57:28 2001
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:57:28 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Invincible Sword Goddess
Message-ID: <F149Q8aZRhQdOgl4rhY000003ae@hotmail.com>

One time Napster filled me with a celestial joy because I found Mambo Miam 
Miam by Serge Gainsbourg when I had just about Given Up.
Although I fantasize from time to time of sexy old men doing the 'miam miam' 
purrrrrfectly like a cat, there is nothing like the REAL THING:

http://www.missprint.org/splat/

It's got all the cool cats shaking their feline hips, pretty soon they'll be 
rolling a couple of catnip joints and it's gonna be a wild party. What's 
number 3? It sounds like Kenny Rogers to me.
G!O!  L!I!S!T!E!N!  N!O!W!

A few of the girls in my Politics class have had to read Promiscuities,and 
some of it makes me think of Struan, dark goddess of the woodland mist...
Apparently, women get excited when a young man breaks an expensive and 
delicately crafted instrument onstage, as it is a longing for a 'demon 
lover'. But of course, how could this be any other way of the Stuart?
There was also some interesting stuff about the intense friendships girls 
have as children, and it just seemed so true. Remembering...of 
course,intense crushes on boys when I was a child, but it was the girls (not 
counting PopStars or Imaginary Men) who I made plans to run away and conquer 
the world with. Anyways, the idea was that adult heterosexual women 
sometimes have a sense of a lost Eden. "In a way, there will be nothing as 
exciting as this love between girls ever again. This love has codes and 
repression, innocence and distant obsession..." It all makes me think of 
something that Stuart seems to touch, a real innocent sweetness, a 
simplicity in life, or at least, I feel he does,that I just love so much! 
Especially in his earlier songs, the girls are so credible...makes me dream 
of grade 5 summers and camping trips, baths, and endless beauty experiments. 
One friend and I used to have this punching-bag that was bigger than our 
whole bodies, sometimes we'd kick it and then sometimes we'd pretend it was 
a boy to kiss. Hee hee.

Your Bosom Friend,
Genevieve

p.s
Oh, one last thing, I promise. Today, as I stepped outside to brave the 
Arctic Blast, a magestic Canadian Snow-Peacock dropped a scroll at my feet 
as it danced a little jig and winked at me, before mysteriously flying 
away...the scroll reads:

" Princess Honey

Full woman, flesh-apple, hot moon,
thick smell of seaweed, mud and light in masquerade,
what secret clarity opens through your columns?
What ancient nice does a man touch with his senses?

Oh, love is a journey with water and stars,
with drowning air and storms of flour;
love is a clash of lightnings,
two bodies subdued by one HONEY.

Kiss by kiss I travel your little infinity,
your borders, your rivers, your tiny villages;
and a genital fire - transformed, delicious -

slips through the narrow roadways of the blood
till it pours itself, quick, like a night carnation, till it is:
and is nothing, in shadow, and a flimmer of light.

XXX Gunther "
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From brier at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 06:08:41 2001
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:08:41 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Off Napster, On Jeepster, Off Prancer, On Vixen
Message-ID: <03c501c08b4c$43c170a0$ecd956d1@pavilion>

Regarding the Jeepster News Email (which has missed its own boat recently)
and Jeepster Website (which still doesn't have lyrics to Winter Wooskie
posted, and claims the lyrics to Judy Is A Dick Slap [instrumental] are
'coming soon') has its shortfalls too, I don't think it's fair to criticize
Jeepster too heavily.  They're primarily a company who makes records.  The
website and emails are just a bonus.  If you hear something first in the
NME, well then Jeepster must be doing a good enough job that NME reported
some B&S news so quickly.  I think we get to comfortable with all this
instant electronic information that we get spoiled, and selfishly consider
it our right.  And I think to whine about it goes against the indie credo to
which we claim to aspire.  Like buying a Ramones CD and complaining that it
didn't include an Interactive Quicktime Video.  It'll be fine.  The music is
coming.

Regarding the Napster debate that seems to flare up around here every year
or so: No Comment.

All of the other reindeer:

Dasher: "Here's your hat, what's your hurry?"
Dancer: "I thought he hung his boots up and then retired."
Prancer: "Gay as a tangerine."
Vixen: "You know who you are.  I've got the bruises to prove it."
Comet: "Always shooting up too much."
Cupid: "Put too much poison in the dart."
Donner: "Ate the dead; some party."
Blitzen: "Ooh, you mixed wine with Jim Beam; you henna your hair, don't
you?"

Rudolph:  Insists on forthcoming posts from Joan of Dark, Listdom Lisa
Morrison, LLaura LLew, and Velocity (your mail-art is almost ready).

And please check your local bookstore for the book I just wrote, called "How
to Get Along With Anyone".  I didn't write it by myself; I co-authored it
with this dumb moron asshole guy....

Love, Brier

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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 06:22:55 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:22:55 EST
Subject: Sinister: oh yeah
Message-ID: <41.6c04020.27a9093f@aol.com>

there was one comment that i found especially endearing...something about 
grandfather...and scare tactics(as they pertained to the 21 mile trek to the 
music store)...it's good of you to join in already. that was sorta the thing 
i was going for. i thought it added depth. it's called development...maybe in 
both the UK and the US. i don't really know.

truth be known i live right next store to a little privately/locally owned 
music store. there is no real trek. but i sure feel sad when i think that 
people used to pack the place out...but not so much anymore. cause chad, the 
owner, is swell. and he deserves the business. so lets redirect our 
attentions. ask your local record store owners how they feel about 
napster...and see if you get a different perspective...and then if you 
don't...why don't you just shout in their face...see if they come round to 
YOUR way of thinking...and if they don't, see if they don't call the cops on 
you next time you come back.

i am going to bed now. vienna lager has done her wonder.

incidentally, i love you. even the ones of you that i don't like very 
much...and we had our first official fight. every relationship is stronger 
thereafter. believe me.
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 06:06:35 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:06:35 EST
Subject: Sinister: heh with the napster already
Message-ID: <4b.6d3660b.27a9056b@aol.com>

wow...what a response. i was so pleased to see all of the hate mail in my box 
when i returned home. i have really struck a nerve...and i must admit...i 
love it. from all the mails that i received...here are a few comments that i 
can recall.

something about intolerance...well, what have you shown me?

hoity toity...it's from zurich.

passion regarding napster...if i havent seen this much passion in your posts 
since well, never...it's a wonder that i don't see it anywhere else. hmmm. 
it's amazing how when you threaten someones free music downloads they 
suddenly feel the need to speak up. but gen x'ers as a whole (another zurich 
word) can't muster up much of anything else....how dare me shun napster. 
sheesh.

something about people that buy music after hearing music off napster...well, 
the argument was initially spawned by people that didn't do that...but thanks 
for your two cents just the same.

something about quotes that were not received publically,...well, had i not 
been bombarded with emails, it might have been easier to respond 
individually. heh. alas, i have received so much blasted hate mail that it 
makes it rather difficult to respond to each and every one.

but i am happy to have invoked such hatred and opinion..you probably didn't 
even know you had it in you. i hate that i had to be the one to remind you of 
such an emotion.

an intellectual debate is what we had here...if you failed to see that, then 
you may not be so intellectual.

and yeah...i AM a total music snob...that's why i joined the list in the 
first place. correct me if i am wrong, i thought you all were too. 

quadruple heh.

and thanks for your thoughts...i enjoyed every single word of most of 
them...i even read them to my very best pro napster friend. she thought it 
was entertaining.

believe it or not...i do have pro napster friends...and i don't even try to 
scalp them or anything. 

the wonder of opinions and assholes...we all have one...and if we are truly 
lucky (or contradictory) sometimes more than one.

next debate...

has blockbuster entertainment monopolized the industry? you decide.
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From AWillia at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 11:21:51 2001
From: AWillia at xxx.com (Andrew Williams (UKHQ - Merch))
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:21:51 -0500
Subject: Sinister: oh yeah
Message-ID: <CA52872BEA6FD41182A50008C724B2300C8312@corp01uk.bordersgroupinc.com>

 
> incidentally, i love you. even the ones of you that i don't like very 
> much...and we had our first official fight. every 
> relationship is stronger 
> thereafter. believe me.

Hey Isabel, I feel slightly responsible for stirring up some of this, and
I'll be the first to admit I may have replied rather hastily to your initial
email, never very wise. I just want to assure you that I have nothing but
respect for everyone's opinion on the list, I just thought it was an
interesting topic... if you've been receiving nasty emails, I'm really
sorry, that's well out of order. 

> and yeah...i AM a total music snob...that's why i joined the 
> list in the 
> first place. correct me if i am wrong, i thought you all were too. 
> 

No, I'm not. That's all I want to say. 

Peace & Love,

yr pal,

Andrew.
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From honey at xxx.org  Wed Jan 31 12:04:43 2001
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:04:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: please read
In-Reply-To: <41.6c04020.27a9093f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.32.0101311126300.1318-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

(A mummy mail)

There are one or two mails flying around the ears of this Napster
debate that are beginning to give off sparks of flames: comments that
are inclined to raise an inflammatory debate which will be between a
few people and very boring for the rest of us.  They usually involve
exquisitely poised statements that teeter around the edge of personal
insult, and they usually end up with a handful of people posting more
and more rapid and shorter emails.  Such statements are Public Enemy
Number One on this list, and I have no tolerance for them, based on
previous list history and experience on other lists.  I'm sure you all
read the FAQ.  It's about list survival and you all getting the
list you make.

The Napster "debate" (often expanded into the debate of open
peer-to-peer network sharing tools such as Open Napsters, Gnutella,
AudioGalazy, and on into areas such as Freenet) and the private vs.
public property of creative works is probably the most commonly
occuring thread on any music or arts-based mailing list right now.  I'm
sure the rate at which they pop up rivals even debates such as
"children's programs when I was young", which pops up regular as
clockwork every few months or so.  Naturally so, because it's what we
all talk about over tea (orange and cinnamon) and biscuits (hmm..
custard creams I think).  But please remember that there's 1400 people
on the list, so it'd probably be best if you checked in the archives
first to see if what you're saying has come up lots before.  You'll see
oodles of the above two topics in there already.  That doesn't mean you
shouldn't express your own feeling on such things, please just have
some sensitivity to your audience.

Nor does it mean strong opinions aren't a good thing: they are the
lifeblood of every mailing list.  So this is *not* a request to shut
down this debate (please continue!), just please think as you post
whether what you're doing contributes to a fuller or lesser list.

One other thing: anyone who posts strong opinions to the list (good) is
bound to receive a reaction (good and bad).  That's the deal when you
post to a public forum.  Some of this reaction will be positive and
supportive (good), some will be in disagreement but opening debate
(good still, presumably, because that was why you posted?) and some
will just be pointless, ill-judged and maybe rude (bad, depending on
whether you want a fight or not, for therapeutic reasons).  What you do
with those reactions, should you receive them in private is your *own*
business.  Your public post created this reaction.  In the case of the
third category of responses, I wouldn't respond but you might choose
to.  But the list is *not* a public therapy session, and you should
keep private debate off the list, even if sparked by public comment.
What people say to you privately is their business.  What you say back
privately is yours.

Honey x

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From lgluhani at xxx.edu  Wed Jan 31 12:31:51 2001
From: lgluhani at xxx.edu (glu)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:31:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: B&S content...???
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.32.0101311126300.1318-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101310730280.10321-100000@tempest.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

Hello,
I was wondering if there are any unmoderated b&s mailing lists??  

Respond privately only please :)

laura

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
University of Michigan

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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 31 13:11:38 2001
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:11:38 BST
Subject: Sinister: isn't it funny how a bear likes hunny...
Message-ID: <7B564A1A01@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

  there's a huuuge log in the toilet in our house. no amount of 
flushing will dislodge it. i'm starting to worry that it might be 
mine, but then i suppose everyone else is thinking the same thing and 
i don't really want to broach the subject.
  does anybody know what one should do in such a situation?
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From IsabelLark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 13:14:46 2001
From: IsabelLark at xxx.com (IsabelLark at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:14:46 EST
Subject: Sinister: heh with the double standards already
Message-ID: <a1.107cde7b.27a969c6@aol.com>

frankly honey, you bore me. you have had it in for me since the beginning. 
the comment about hoity toity being from america is no different...and maybe 
it is from zurich. take me off your list, i have had it with you. people post 
things all the time...and anytime i do YOU always have something to say about 
it. i am sorry that you have made some sort of unseen or unknown beef with 
me...but perhaps it's just for americans. and you contradict yourself 
constantly. if you knew that public post of yours was intended for me....then 
why did you post it publically? 

you with your pretending to know belle and sebastian. it's borderline 
disgusting. and i am absolutely totally convinced that you ARE a man...as you 
have had nothing but a hard-on for me since the get-go. take me off this 
hypocritical...only the uk can speak freely...when one does it, it's ok, when 
she does it...it's not. mailing list. i am over it.

Heh.

unsubscribe sinister 

NOW
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From Netkatie at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 14:38:28 2001
From: Netkatie at xxx.com (Netkatie at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:38:28 EST
Subject: Sinister: spread the cuteness
Message-ID: <9.10676e10.27a97d64@aol.com>

hello you lovely people

the title is a slogan that my best mate came up with that i really dont think is that bad.

i dont usually write much, but i feel i have to make my self heard here.  I for one am NOT a music snob.  i love music so much that i want to share it with everyone i know.  i want to be the johnny (jeanne) appleseed of the music i love. and i want people to do the same with me.  i dont want anyone to be embarrassed or feel bad that they dont have all the good records.  NO ONE has ALL the good records, we all just have pieces here and there. the amount of music waiting out there to be discovered by each of us on our own and together makes me feel excited to the point of dizziness sometimes!! 

so go on then.  make a tape that you LOVE for that co-worker or classmate you always wondered about.  its not a bad thing to do.

love and stuffed animals(soft toys) to you all
katie
the uhohbunny

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From Mark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 14:33:37 2001
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:33:37 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:37:41 -0000
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D3AAE@SERVER1>

Isabel Lark, you're not Elle Zober are you?


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From Mark at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 14:38:38 2001
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:38:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Recall: 
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Mark Casarotto would like to recall the message, "".


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From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 14:17:24 2001
From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:17:24 +0000
Subject: Sinister: isn't it funny how a bear likes hunny...
References: <7B564A1A01@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A781E74.CDA869A1@ubsw.com>

It takes a lot to get me to post.

Congratulations, Fiona, you've just managed it. Of course, this throws me
into an inner debate about my worth to sinister and society in general -
well, it's a rather awful state of affairs when no amount of intelligent
debate about Napster, Petula Clark or the ever-present topic (at least in
the head of Mr. P. Miller, Esq.) of seventies WHO doesn't prompt me to
spout forth, but the merest mention of a blocked khazi makes me jump for my
keyboard with the acrobatic energy of a rabid hound.

Anyway, inner debating aside, here are a few
hypothi....hypoffesee...hipo....ideas on how to remedy your current
situation. In true chartsesque, reverse order, of course.

5. Use the marigolds. Never attempt anything without the gloves.

4. Nip down to your local ICI, carry out a daring dawn raid, and purloin a
few vats full of concentrated sulphuric acid. Tip them down your shitter,
and your problem's gone. Mind you, so has your shitter, but that's neither
here nor there.

3. Fight fire with fire. Trek down to the local Indian, consume 3 Prawn
Jalfrezis, sixteen poppadoms with !H!O!T! lime chutney, two portions of
basmati rice and one of those unspeakably awful coconut desserts. Then
hover over your loo for half an hour when you get back home and dissolve
the offending matter with your offending matter. Warning: side-effects
similar to number 4, only this one gets rid of your arse as well.

2. Move house. This is by far the most effective, if the most costly, of
your options. In the worst-case scenario that it is actually you that has
plugged your trough, however, be warned that this doesn't work. You'll just
end up running away from yourself constantly, leading to all kinds of
embarrassing social problems in later life. You may even go mad. Which
brings me to option number one.

1. Lock yourself in your room. Never go out, apart from the occasional
sojourn downstairs to paint the fridge green. Speak in tongues, and when
anybody knocks on your door, bark at them repeatedly. Play Lou Reed's Metal
Machine Music and anything by Van Der Graaf Generator. When the men in
white coats come to cart you away.........





........just plead insanitary.

I think that was my last ever post to Sinister.

Don't you?

lol p xx.
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From popboyatlanta at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 15:10:03 2001
From: popboyatlanta at xxx.com (Popboy Atlanta)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:10:03 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #377
Message-ID: <F192eTlhxvzSoBJHsxP00000df2@hotmail.com>

ok, just because the last digest ended so abruptly and awfully, i wanted to 
send a SMILE email to the list!!! SMILE!!! it's not that ugly or bad or 
terrible.... in fact, it's really nice!

it's sunny outside today and the birds were singing on the way to work, and 
I was listening to, erm, a really noisy punk rock cd (but that's good... 
full of energy) anyhow, it's a beautiful day!

just remember (and this is to everyone, not just americans or turks or 
botswanans) there *ARE* other folks on the other end of the computer - it's 
too easy to be nasty and say things in an email that you'd never say to 
someone's face... just treat email more like a loooong personal conversation 
- the same "rules" should apply.

to (mis)quote my beloved heavenly: "stop before you say it"

remember, we're all friends here, right?

hugs,
popboy

(who happens to be american, but who doesn't think honey will pick on me 
because of it :)
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From twelvestringhooligan at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 15:17:48 2001
From: twelvestringhooligan at xxx.com (Andrew Bonar)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:17:48 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Laziest Boy In Glasgow? 
Message-ID: <F118cQVjriLdElsBt8s00002741@hotmail.com>

Hello to everyone,

This is my first posting, although I've had a voice for ages and ages.  I'm 
dreadfully lazy at times, that's all.  Must try harder etc.
At least two of you know me personally (Hello Neil & Jason A.), but for 
everyone else's benefit, this is me:

My name's Andy and I live & work in Glasgow, having graduated from the Uni 
last year.  It was one of those degrees that doesn't exactly guarantee you a 
highly-paid job (this may be very familiar to some...) so now I sit in front 
of a computer all day and occasionally answer the phone, but mostly I get 
bored for a living.

Fortunately, my life is livened up by being in a band, which is YET ANOTHER 
of those things I've been meaning to do for years, but have only just got 
sorted out.  We have some nice tunes although we're often very noisy.  We're 
called Troika, which is a Russian word I chose for us because it makes me 
think of snow and bells and moonlit starry nights and suchlike.

I have too many favourite bands and a music collection like a library, so I 
won't talk about that unless asked 'Do You Like...?'.  Suffice it to say I 
like B&S a lot, and will often play 'Dog On Wheels' on my 12-string guitar 
if I'm asked nicely...and if I haven't been too lazy to practise.  Haven't 
played for a good long while now!

I think that'll do for now.  I'm going round the back of my offices to smoke 
a ciggy and shiver into my hot chocolate.

Cheerio,
Andy


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From shiplore at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 15:45:16 2001
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:45:16 -0500
Subject: Sinister: heh with the double standards already
Message-ID: <F178fGdMNFmWAFsTmIC00000f45@hotmail.com>

Hey now.
Can't we all get along?
Seriously tho' I value this list cause the people on it are diverse and from 
all over the world but at the same time intelligent and well spoken. Isabel, 
I wish you'd reconsider. Honey is not targeting you. Infact from following 
the thread I'd say the honey's message was meant to inform the person/people 
taking less intellectual more personal shots *at* you.

Let's remember everyone when we joined this list there were certain things 
we agreed to, trying to keep on topic, not filling everyone's inboxes with 
one word responses or personal attacks. Any issue that people feel 
passionately about is bound to cause a stir and I'm all for talking about it 
as long as we don't take the thug way out and start neener neenering people 
we don't agree with. Napster is about music and appropiate for discussion 
but not personal attacks. Honey let's us get  away with alot based on the 
guidelines, especially along the lines of off topic topics....

okay. my reconciliation attempts are over.

jb
a yank who's not felt persecuted for yankness except for in a pub in Earl's 
Court where two londoners were complaining about how bad 'mericans were, 
loud, obnoxious, cocky and boorish. My friend and I sitting at the table 
right beside them thought this was funny since a) we were sitting right next 
to them and b) they didn't know we were americans....so how loud could we 
have been.
just goes to show....stereotypes are bad. that might be a national norm but 
it's not *everyone*




>From: IsabelLark at xxx.com
>Reply-To: IsabelLark at aol.com
>To: honey at missprint.org
>CC: sinister at missprint.org, majordomo at missprint.org
>Subject: Sinister: heh with the double standards already
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:14:46 EST
>
>frankly honey, you bore me. you have had it in for me since the beginning.
>the comment about hoity toity being from america is no different...and 
>maybe
>it is from zurich. take me off your list, i have had it with you. people 
>post
>things all the time...and anytime i do YOU always have something to say 
>about
>it. i am sorry that you have made some sort of unseen or unknown beef with
>me...but perhaps it's just for americans. and you contradict yourself
>constantly. if you knew that public post of yours was intended for 
>me....then
>why did you post it publically?
>
>you with your pretending to know belle and sebastian. it's borderline
>disgusting. and i am absolutely totally convinced that you ARE a man...as 
>you
>have had nothing but a hard-on for me since the get-go. take me off this
>hypocritical...only the uk can speak freely...when one does it, it's ok, 
>when
>she does it...it's not. mailing list. i am over it.
>
>Heh.
>
>unsubscribe sinister
>
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From popboyatlanta at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 15:48:18 2001
From: popboyatlanta at xxx.com (Popboy Atlanta)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:48:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: p.s. one more thing...
Message-ID: <F39YCT4aJ6pkNzPZrIk00000e58@hotmail.com>

i was remembering a REALLLY hilarious story Christiaan had sent to the list 
a while back, so I went searching the archives...

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200009/msg00128.html

needless to say, i laughed till i cried. i think you should reread it too, 
it could change your whole mood. thanks Christiaan! :)



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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Wed Jan 31 23:54:51 2001
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:54:51 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Stilletto Street
Message-ID: <3A77C4CE.13671.8EABE9@localhost>

No sooner have I re-emerged into the world of Sinister than a fight 
breaks out. I don't really understand what Napster is, although I 
should imagine it's a type of absorbant pants, so I won't argue about 
it.

What I've been thinking of recently, as I wander home from work, is 
street names. It must be a good job being able to name them. Where 
I live, near an old bicycle factory, some street names are named 
after this, such as Cycle Road and Dunlop Road. In the estate next 
door they're named after birds. Unfortunately, these sytems only 
seem to last for a few streets before they give up. It seems that 
despite a few brief moments of glory, modern street-namers are 
rubbish.

If I was in charge I'd name hundreds of streets after lots of things 
like shoes; Wellington St, Plimsol Road, Clog Avenue, Brothel 
Creeper Alley, or boats; Canoe Grove, Liner Lane, Ferry Terrace. 
They could go on forever. We'd have Hip Street which would be 
connected to Leg Street which would be connected to Knee Street. 
Oh hear the word of the Lord!

The only record I've ever seen the "Home Taping Is Killing Music" 
logo on was a record of Cockney singalong classics. Maybe they 
considered themselves a vulnerable part of the market.

Robin x
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From David1822 at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 18:36:51 2001
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:36:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: GlasGone
Message-ID: <4747589.980966211737.JavaMail.imail@puffer>

evening,

how are you all?
just a quick word of advice,never ever ever travel anywhere with virgin
trains, 8 hours to get to glasgow thats just blummin silly if you ask me,and
9 getting back to loindon,maybe it's not there fault though eingeneering
works and all,so rephrase that blummin eingeenering works grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

anyway got to glasgow and it was grate,stayed in a hotel called the smiths
but alas no morrisey,oh well.spent friday night in slezys and eating stuffed
crust pizza yummmmmmmyyyyyy.saturday was spent in avalanche records the best
record shop ever i got a nice belle et sebastien t-shirt its grate,then i
helped amy over come her scardness of heights by forcing her up to the
lighthouse.sunday was spent travelling home left glasgow at 11.23 got in at
11.10 at night.inbetween then though time was spent at the 13th note which
was grate and walking around laughing at neds with ther tracksuits and socks
:0).

is being lovesick an illness? or am i just hungry (i hate writing hungry cos
i allways think i'm going to write an east european country instead of
hungry) i hope i've not done that,boy it would be silly.cos i feel very
lovesick at the moment,its very sad but i cant wait to see my love,i love
anticipation dont you?

are starsalior any good? the nme loves em allready any reports on there
grateness or badness? 

i've seen so many people wonder around town with broken umbrellas they look
so silly cos all the water builds up when they are upside down and it looks
like a small personal mobile pond he he,one day i want a duck to land in one
that would be grate.

i'd better go....

d x









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From ThisSuffering at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 18:55:24 2001
From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:55:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: something out me, and a so-cal meetup/picnic
Message-ID: <4f.6d2c2d5.27a9b99c@aol.com>

hello sinisterees.

it's been a long time since posts. i just read up on your gossip and what 
not, and get my fixx.

anyway. im just dropping my once every 4 month post, saying random babble, 
and the like. i've got my lemonade. i've got my nutrigrain bar. just waiting 
for 1130 to roll around, so i can head to work.

just saying, i'm around to anyone ive spoken to in so long. again i'll throw 
out the idea to our southern california chapter of sinister listees, .. 
PICNIC.  get back to me if you are remotely interested.

cheers all
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From ian_pompy at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 19:47:13 2001
From: ian_pompy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Long?=)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:47:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Snob? Moi?
Message-ID: <20010131194713.12638.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com>

On the subject of being a music snob,  I must say in
my youth I was in fact a music fascist.  And my, it
was  fun.  Whilst in school and college, and to a
lesser extent Uni, I felt good that I knew about bands
no-one had heard of except me.  It was a good way of
feeling superior to the people who bullied me, pushed
me around and made the first few years of my
educational life hell.  You see, they could never
understand or appreciate the music like I could,  'cos
I was great and deep and intelligent.  And they were
shit.  And when my fave, underground bands went top
ten, god how I hated it.  Damn sell outs.  And how
could all those normal people dare to like my
favourite bands.  HOW DARE THEY!?!?!?!?  Oh, I used to
get so angry.  
But that was then and this is now.  And as I have got
older, I have realised that it is pointless and does
no real good in the long run.  Now to atone for my
past sins,  I try and force people to listen to B+S,
Super Furry Animals etc.  And I rejoice when the music
I love reaches a wider audience.  So I may still be a
snob (Toploader? Pah, I'd rather die!), |I have
realised liking obscure bands doesn't make me better
than anyone else.  It just means I have better taste.

Cheers for reading,
Ian

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Wed Jan 31 19:57:59 2001
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:57:59 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Who Flobbed In My Bovril?
Message-ID: <002f01c08bc0$200edac0$325d243e@itjfvkli>

Frankly Honey, you bore me. With your dreary dreary punk rock stories about
pennyfathing-it twenty-one miles over the arctic tundra to pick up the
latest import 78s from Uncle Dave Macon and his Fruit Jar Drinkers only to
get home and find out they were a load of scratchy old bollocks. And I
*know* you've got a stonk-on for me. Because you showed it to me in the
toilets at the British Protector before the legendary Manchester Town Hall
gig. Your mate Hugh was encouraging you, and Mark C was straining for a look
through the neatly Black and Deckered glory hole. Your "I know the hairy
bloke out of Dutch prog rockers Focus" stories are borderline disgusting. No
wonder your only friend is Keith.

I wonder if Stuart David will be "in character" for those upcoming Peacock
Johnson in-stores? That might make it a bit more interesting. Start saving
up just in case, Genevieve.

We want Ooon!

Peter

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From dougalshaw at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 20:39:24 2001
From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:39:24 -0000
Subject: Sinister: never mind napster
Message-ID: <LAW2-F42jGnAKYoo9tj00000ffa@hotmail.com>

never mind napster, I think the whole internet idea and mailing lists is a 
decadent one. I remember the good old days when pen-pals wrote to each other 
in pen and ink, on paper, we had to walk miles to the stationery shop, and 
then miles to the post office to deliver the letter. You could only 
communicate with one or two people and you had to wait for days for a 
response - gave you time to consider your replies though I can tell you. 
Sure it was hard, but the inconvenience and the time spent meant the content 
of the letters was so much more heartfelt, worthwhile and sincere - sorry to 
be a 'letters' snob, but I am. I can't stand it when people boast in public 
how they've sent 'a quick e-mail' - shallow, vacous fools, they don't know 
the solemn dignity of the old pen and paper for people who 'really mean it 
man'.

"[someone said] something about intolerance...well, what have you shown me?"

It would be inconsistent for a tolerant person to tolerate an intolerant 
one. That's the point of tolerance and liberalism. America as I understand 
it is founded on these principles - pre-Bush inaugural at least.



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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 21:25:26 2001
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:25:26 -0000
Subject: Sinister: meanwhile...back at the ranch
Message-ID: <F1062TUSzbAUfKRfcjc000014f8@hotmail.com>


I don't check my inbox for 2 days, come back and there is the blood, guts 
and vitriolic opinions of various sinsterines all over the place. Nasty. But 
entertaining none the less.
And quite frankly if isoblelark wants to go then thats 5 posts less a day to 
read. Did you know Napster is an anagram of "re:pants"? .sums the whole 
thing up really.
Honey, as ever, sorted it out:)

However the napster debate still means two things a) it's that time of year 
again (as someone said before) and b)Belle and Sebastian are being too quiet 
again! Maybe if someone writes to stuart m about our plight of wallowing in 
nasty non-B&S content he will release another single or album so we can talk 
about that instead. Or they might even tour(!) Or maybe he will just laugh 
in a machevellian manner. I would.

Well, as fun as this has been I have to colour in excel spreadsheets. I 
really hope there is a slew of lovely pretty posts next time I look.

p a u l





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From ian_pompy at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 21:41:05 2001
From: ian_pompy at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Long?=)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:41:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Snob? Moi?
Message-ID: <20010131214105.2572.qmail@web615.mail.yahoo.com>

Just being ironic, the joke being that 'I am no better
than anyonelse cos of the music I like', with the
claim of having better taste as the comedic pay off
line, making a mockery of all I had just said.  And
anyway, I have cos I said so, so there.  ;)
--- paul.rudolph.b at bayer.com wrote: > 
> I see your point - our beliefs and opinions don't
> make us better
> people.
> 
> but the inevitable question is:  who are you to say
> you have better taste?
> 
> no big deal, just asking : )


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> On the subject of being a music snob,  I must say in
> my youth I was in fact a music fascist.  And my, it
> was  fun.  Whilst in school and college, and to a
> lesser extent Uni, I felt good that I knew about
> bands
> no-one had heard of except me.  It was a good way of
> feeling superior to the people who bullied me,
> pushed
> me around and made the first few years of my
> educational life hell.  You see, they could never
> understand or appreciate the music like I could, 
> 'cos
> I was great and deep and intelligent.  And they were
> shit.  And when my fave, underground bands went top
> ten, god how I hated it.  Damn sell outs.  And how
> could all those normal people dare to like my
> favourite bands.  HOW DARE THEY!?!?!?!?  Oh, I used
> to
> get so angry.
> But that was then and this is now.  And as I have
> got
> older, I have realised that it is pointless and does
> no real good in the long run.  Now to atone for my
> past sins,  I try and force people to listen to B+S,
> Super Furry Animals etc.  And I rejoice when the
> music
> I love reaches a wider audience.  So I may still be
> a
> snob (Toploader? Pah, I'd rather die!), |I have
> realised liking obscure bands doesn't make me better
> than anyone else.  It just means I have better
> taste.
> 
> Cheers for reading,
> Ian
> 
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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 22:29:41 2001
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:29:41 -0500
Subject: Sinister: You can just pitch your tent elsewhere, Constable!
Message-ID: <F55A9bbbJXncnm5c4Gn000014ab@hotmail.com>

Next time I fail something in school, I'm going to show how tolerant I am by 
marching up to my teacher, slamming the failed paper on his desk, and, with 
hands on hips, cry out this unfair treatment is due to my rejection of him 
swinging his jolly roger of love (trademark-WarranderJ) in the Photography 
club after school. Admit it sir, you want this hot, hot body and you can't 
have it and it's killing you! (For the finale, splash drink in his face, 
throw in a Nipple-Pinch-Sizzle, turn on heel and exit.)

I know sometimes it seems unfair that such pouting, luscious girls like 
Honey do exist, frolicking in the sunshine with their impossibly perky 
breasts, alas, such is life. If she spurns your love, you can't hold it 
against her, you know, Honey has to wear a chastity belt. The discomfort of 
unrelieved vasocongestion could be calmed by meditating on images of 
Precious Struan, strumming his little Magical Elf Guitar.

Stuart David in character as Peacock Johnson? Ooh! Shivers of delight and 
strawberry cream! Perhaps 'Stuart' or 'the wee man from Looper' will 
actually be held captive by the Peacock, and so the Peacock is doing what he 
has to do to sell the book. Does anyone else imagine his rough and manly 
hands, callused from the bass playing and writing? Trembling, I approach the 
signing table...

Far too many mentions of boy-bits for one day, so I will go, and before the 
Funny Man appears, I will already settle his question with a NO, there will 
not be any new photographs in the Bodyparts section. Or will there?

Love,
Genevieve...or Hank
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From wpsalt at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 23:14:56 2001
From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:14:56 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: sheep, sheep, sheep, *tree*, sheep
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101312235270.5282-100000@candle.btinternet.com>


Sorry about the subject line.  I can never think of good subject lines.

I hope you're all having fun out their in your little worlds.  Not
throwing bricks or fireworks or anything at each other.  Even teddy bears.

I was thinking, today, about general things.  Well, I was walking along,
humming songs from Tigermilk -- as you do -- and idly thinking about
things.  As you do.  And so, I got to humming to myself, "Do something
pretty while you can."

Now, the ever-alert Joan of Dark pointed out last week that sometimes
Belle and Sebastian feel like they've become a way of life.  And if you
walk down the street humming their songs to yourself, then that must be
true.  So, therefore, we should all try to do something pretty while we
can, in case we can't tomorrow.

If someone sends you nasty email, don't rise to it and annoy everyone.
Ignore them and the world will be a happier place.

If there is someone you love, send them a message and tell them.  Wait an
hour, and send them another.  Keep doing it, and you'll feel like you're
together.  If they don't know, that's probably not *such* a good idea.
They might get scared and never talk to you again.

If you're bored and have nothing to do, go out for a walk.  Go to
somewhere you've never been.  Look at a map, and go to somewhere just
because you like the sound of its name.  See what somewhere looks like
from a slightly different angle.  Take photographs.

If you can't leave the house, don't just watch TV.  Do something.  Write
something, or make something.  Do something inspirational, and write a
book about it.

If nothing else, be nice to a cat; they usually appreciate it.  If you
don't have a cat, you could always send Princess Honey something nice; I'm
sure she would appreciate it too.

Whatever you do do, make sure it's something that you enjoy doing.  Like
humming Tigermilk to yourself, whilst walking through the city.


G'night,

xx
will s.


-- 
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Wed Jan 31 23:13:56 2001
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:13:56 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Who Shat In My Shoes?
Message-ID: <000901c08bdb$86476b20$0bb201d5@default>

Hi All,

Oi, Miller! Enough already! Just stop taking the piss out of ME & MY Jan
Akkerman stories. ME & him were like that, you know.

Why I remember that time at Newcastle City Hall in '71, no wait a minute,
maybe it was '72, when those four groupies & us .....


No-one has mentioned this yet , so I'd better share the best ribtickler of
the week (until digest 377 that was):
NME's own anti-Christ, Stephen Wells, made me laugh out loud during his
review of Ash's Shining Light single: "Its the sort of perfect pop that
Belle and Sebastian fans think they hear when they clutch their wank-sodden
Hello Kitty jim-jam cases and listen to their most favourite bandy-wandy in
the whole wide world. Which means, of course, that they have got something
wrong with their brains and should be put down. For their own good,
obviously"


Om Namah Shivaya is a stonker. Download it off Napster or whatever & then
buy it.


James tells me that the Sodastream session is being repeated on Peel next
Thursday.


Oh, & I want Oone, too.

Love & peace, man

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From p.carter at xxx.uk  Sun Jan 21 19:37:07 2001
From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:37:07 -0000
Subject: Sinister: "If you can't think of a subject, just quote something good someone else said"
Message-ID: <00aa01c083e1$8befc240$3828893e@fsnet.co.uk>

Hello Sinister, at long last I return. My long absence has been due to a
lack of wit, and anything interesting to say. I finally realised that if
everyone was witty and interesting, the world would be a very boring place.
So I'll endeavour to make this post and dull and juvenile as possible.

First of all, people have been mentioning the guardian and observer a lot
recently, and I recently found quite an interesting article about the top
100 public intellectuals list. Apparently Henry Kissinger is top, ahead of
George Orwell, Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus. It's at

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internetnews/story/0,7369,636877,00.html

and it's rather scary. It's also an example of some of some really good
Grauniading (that really should be a word).

People keep e-mailing and telling me how great Fast Cow is. People, I KNOW
it's good, tell the list! Honestly, I'm very grateful though, and you're all
wonderful.

There has also been even more added, with a review of 'Honey, I'm an Artist'
by Airport Girl, a yahoo groups list to keep people up to date with the
updates and, best of all, a new cow called Brucie! That's at
www.ciahq.fsnet.co.uk/fastcow by the way. The update list link is at the
bottom of the main page.

I've been missing Kara a lot recently, not that I don't anyway, and Ben Apps
has now made me think that perhaps liking toss songs is the way forward for
those in lose. I tried listening to 'How Do I Live' by our Leanne today, as
it was playing in my local supermarket. I'm sorry, but it hurt, it really
did. Perhaps it's a learned skill, or perhaps you 'have to be in the 'wow,
I'm with someone amazing' phase, rather than the 'Oh dear, my love is too
far away' one, I don't know.

BRIGHTON meetup, I'm rather excited about that, should be rather fun to meet
up with all those lovely people again. The only place I've been going
recently is my uni's club night, Friday Flux, because my friends like to go.
Their slogan is 'Get Fluxed on a Friday'. Glorious.

I've never been Sillistrated and I haven't seen that film about Iris Murdoch
yet, these are terrible things.

www.ciahq.fsnet.co.uk/fastcow
www.eurosexuals.co.uk
Peter, half of the other great Sinister romance.

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