From seyfert7 at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 01:02:16 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:02:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: torontonians Message-ID: i know this is late notice, but does anybody in toronto need a ticket to see smog this weekend? i'll sell it really really cheap, as i can't go and the money'll be wasted anyway. mail me privately please. thanks debbie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 01:23:56 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:23:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: consequences. a short story Message-ID: I've been having this problem. And I'm not sure who to tell. It started about a week ago. Me and Batman were hanging out in one of his crazy layers, NY branch. He wanted to put 'Belle and Sebastian' on the stereo, and when he offered I said "B+S is for homosexuals." I didnt mean it. I actually wanted to hear the song 'A Space Boy Dream' anyways. I was just messing with him. He turned red and defensive and then we got into an argument over if listening to B+S makes you turn gay. I was just kidding with him. Never question Batmans manliness. He shoved me into a vat of chemicals and now I'm invisible. He didn't mean to shove me into the vat, is what he tells me and himself, but he obviously meant to do something. It was one of those things where you try to be gentle but sometimes he doesnt realize how strong he is, I guess. I told him not to leave a vat of chemicals open near his stereo. Well, whats done is done. It might not be so bad if I could control it, or if it was consistent. It creeps people out when they're talking to me and i disappear. It creeps people out when i'm standing there listening to their conversation, and then I appear. And my mom starts crying whenever I disappear during dinner. She never liked Batman from the start anyways. She said all that violence was a bad influence on me. She was a hippy. Once, back in her hippy days, at some non-violent protest, she went swimming naked in a pool filled with pasta and tomato sauce. She asks why batman needs to fill his swimming pools with chemicals that turn her daughter invinsible. I tell her she doesnt have to worry because me and batman arent on the greatest of terms right now, and we hardly even say hi anmore in the hallways. If he sees me. Never question Batmans manliness. -sophie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk Fri Jun 1 09:34:43 2001 From: Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk (Ruth A. Deller) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:34:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: its a bright june afternoon it never gets dark Message-ID: Hello my pretties Just to remind those going to Offbeat in Sheffield tonight that if you can figure out who I am, the first person to do so will be bought a free drink as a token thanks gesture to the list for being my 'subjects'. Also wondering about picnic etiquette - do you bring food to share or your own sad and sorry packed lunch so you can look at everyone else's and cry because they're so much better than yours? And is a B and S picnic on a June afternoon like a Roxette one, where you have to 'get your green, green tambourine and play in the park' ? - if so, I'm in trouble cos I only have a red one. (By the way, what are the contingency plans if it rains??) Red (Bull) Ken said he'd finished all things university like and err.... I haven't yet, but Monday is my last exam.... I don't get my marks until July 20th so those of you wondering about all thinigs dissertation like will have to hold your breath til then. I think the evil swines delete this account on July 31st so I may have to wave tatty-bye to the world of Sinister for a while - depending on where I move house to and the cost of Internet services and all that malarkey. WIll pop in and see everyone on #sinister before then....even if just to say goodbye to Sadie in some misty black and white Brief Encounter style dramatic scene... I'm just procrastinating to avoid revision now...see some of you tonight and tomorrow if all goes to plan.... *rad* It's Christmas time, mistletoe and wine, children singing Christian rhyme With logs on the fire and gifts on the tree, a time to rejoice in the good that we see (It was always going to get to me in the end...) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Fri Jun 1 10:25:00 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:25:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hate campaign Message-ID: <3B175F6C.68A168D9@camb.linst.ac.uk> er, please ignore my previous post about andy votel being so cool. hes is infact a complete twat and im ashamed to have falled in to his deathly web for even a moment. i heared "smack my carrige clock bitch up" or whatever, on john peelie and it was most brilliant, unfortunatly the only bit i remember is the mention of the word "WANK" it was great though. thanks to to the people who reminded me to have a shower, i did and i feel better. hhhhmmmmmmm ive suddenly realised how much of a help you lot can be. hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Fri Jun 1 13:57:08 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:57:08 +0300 Subject: Sinister: My life in six wishes Message-ID: <003601c0ea9a$5e7eb800$6ddc673e@q2x8k0> On my fifteenth birthday,I thought of making a wish before blowing the candles-like they did in books and in films. However, I couldn't think of something. A year passed. When I was sixteen,I did better.I wished that the world I imagined actually existed. Not in these words exactly but anyway... When I was seventeen, I wished that someday I'd get to live with strange people who listen to strange music. In those words exactly. When I was eighteen I was very angry with my mum and dad so there weren't any candles, or wishes. If I had had the chance, I would have wished for friends. I hardly had any. Sitting on the for of my new room, in my new house, between my (new) boyfriend and my best friend ,in front of a cake and nineteen candles at 4 am, I realise -quite suddenly-that my wishes have come true. I live with those two. The one adores The Tindersticks, the other Nick Cave. I feel both happiness and fear. So I wish that we're trying to do will work. A year later,my best friend gets more and more absorbed by himself. Doesn't talk much, however shouts over trivial matters (like the washing-up).We don't fight but don't talk either. His girlfriend, also a friend of mine in the past, hates me very,very obviously. As for Konstantin, things got from bad to worst, and then even worst...quite dramatically...and without any actual reasons...really...it's so sad... We're not together but then, we are not apart, as we're something like best friends, and more, and we still live together... My twentieth birthday was sad, and I wished that someday I'll have a house in Amsterdam... It's been two months since then. That's the best I can do to introduce myself. That's what I am. If it is of any importance, I live in Thessaloniki, Greece and I study history. I also work a little. There's nothing more... Apart from the love for Belle and Sebastian. Love, and keep the faith, Dimitra. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imnicolson at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 13:58:37 2001 From: imnicolson at xxx.com (Ian Nicolson) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:58:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I hate the guts of Shankin' Stevens Message-ID: Hello purple people eaters Hope all's well. Kara Jean gasped: >I liked gordon's last post. Me too. There should be films made about stuff like that, don't you think? The Old Testament is full of mad, mad, crazy stuff like that, that are just waiting to be made into cinematic classics, but all yer bloody biblical epics were New Testament, which is just so bo-ring. Or at least the bits they chose to do are. Except all that coming back from the dead malarky. That doesn't happen every day. Or being crucified. I once had a dream about being crucified. It was terrifying. Thankfully I managed to escape. Me and George Best. I'm not sure why he was in it, maybe cause he looks a bit like Jesus. Belle and Sebastian didn't feature in that one. I've just rememebred that I had a dream about Hurricane Higgins recently as well. Hedonistic sports stars and religion feature too often in my dreams for comfort. I'm waiting for when they make a film of the Book of Revelations - that'll be a larf. Or Leviticus, with Terry out of Eastenders are the third mouldering leper. But yeh, Jonathan and David, that should be a film, and our faves could do the soundtrack. Rob Butler thought it had the smuttiest line in the Bible in it, but I don't know if that's true. I seem to remember bondage being mentioned quite often. Belle and Sebastian stuff - is anyone else going to Dunfermline? Or did I buy that ticket in error? Cause I was just going up Geddes' Entry the other day, it's all the rage you know, when I realised I didn't much fancy braving that hot-bed of inbreds myself. God only knows what could happen. My horiscope says that this weekend something 'hot and streamy' will happen. I'm fully expecting to be press-ganged and forced to work in a ship's engine room. Ewan Ferguson pondered: >will hibs be any good next year Not unless they see sense and re-sign Tortolano, son. Sorry, this was nonsense. But it's Friday. Ian N. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 14:53:06 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: lard,blue nylon and eating peoples ears.... Message-ID: <20010601135306.22701.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> hello.... ...i suspect i should be revising now but i'm far too tired at the moment...i feel like i havent slept in a week...perhaps i havent...perhaps i have and this is all a dream..that means i could wake up in a minute and it would still be tuesday...what in heavens name am i talking about.... alexander bartilson wrote like this: "Personally i kind of like the idea of Sinister-Land. It would make a great country. Honey would of course be president and Linda would be vice-president. It would be great wouldnt it?" ..can i put myself forward for the post of Minister of Transport?...that way i get to drive people around in buses all day and wear a lovely blue nylon suit...i promise i wouldnt do such a hideous job as John Prescott...and if anyone egged me then i would simply smile and drive past their stop for the next week...wow..thinking about it...bus drivers have so much power!...just watch yourselves... ...can any residents of Bournemouth recommend decent places to go after the gig?..i've been trying to find out but frankly the situation looks desperate as far as good clubs go...please prove me wrong...but i suppose making sandcastles at midnight will be just as fun....i still havent heard any of the new songs yet...but i fully expect to hear them played all week on the last haven of good daytime radio that is mark and lard...i seem to recall them playing at least two tracks almost everyday when FYHCYWLAP was out...god bless them...i never knew lard was such a profilic muscician either...i mean i knew he was in the fall but i think he he had plenty solo albums out too..anyone heard them?... ...i dont think i like these new big brother people...i was so addicted last time around it was scary...but now these people get on my nerves..they've just picked the most obvious sterotypes...camp guy,dizzy blonde,a 'scandalous' one,a 'tasty geezer',old bloke etc etc...i hope they all end up going insane and eating each others ears off...or something...of course that doesnt mean i'm not watching it every day....i'm so weak willed... ta ta.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Fri Jun 1 23:08:32 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:08:32 -0700 Subject: Sinister: welcome Dimitra! Message-ID: <3B181260.30C3@camb.linst.ac.uk> Sorry, im gonna make this my last post for the week, i just had to say what a brilliant post that was from dimitra. It made me go all emotional (hopefully thats cause im due on, please god). Having just had my 21st bday i can relate to that. i had a party with most of my good friends and my lovely new found boyf, i thought about all my others and how far i had got in life and how everything has happened the way i wanted it it to. i used to hate birthdays but the last one was fab. And the moral of this story is............... no, im just taking the piss out of myself for being corny and puke-worthy. i bought a iron today, they're great dont you think, they can turn mankie old clothes into spakingly clean and fresh looking garments. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 06:27:39 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:27:39 -0700 Subject: Sinister: simultaneously, frankly Message-ID: <008c01c0eb00$86086b80$410c073e@aqlzosqt> well, knock me down with a stuffed tiger. who knew there were so many words with all the vowels in order? and who knew any of us cared? although facetious and abstemious are really the only ones that aren't obscure botanical thingys it seems... just saw my friend's boyfriend's band do a fantastic cover of sympathy for the devil. i hope b&s do that (in the rather more lavish setting of RAH.) by the way i will be coming to the gig with a Boy. who is expecting to meet a bunch of twee freaks - please fulfil his expectations until the very last minute and then begin a big massive fist fight with lots of swearing and stuff. ok? i discovered a nice food today - raisins dropped in remains of jar of nutella and stirred around until big chocolate raisin mush. eat with spoon. must get out more. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 18:17:04 2001 From: alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com (Chris shaft) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:17:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: stuart murdoch's secret side project... Message-ID: I just realised that he's now into films as well. seemingly, he was the special effects supervisor for billy elliot........... sorry this didn't take 15 mins.... cannae wait till the gigs..... anyone know yet who the support acts are? chris _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 18:01:50 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:01:50 Subject: Sinister: Anthemic, rousing cheese Message-ID: Well, I don't often post to this list, but it has to be said, I (reluctantly) agree with Hannah. She's so full of shit, that girl - god knows why anyone would go out with her, but she obviously has some gullible 'new found boyf'. Poor guy. Anyway... I too thought that Dimitra's post was something brilliant - it certainly touched me, it made me happy and sad at the same time - it was kind of like a B&S song. A beautiful opening post. Anyway, I've just started working in a trendy interior design shop in Norf London at the moment (Falconer in Muswell Hill if anybody wants to pop in and have a chat), and today was payday, so I'm going to go out and try to impress this girl I like by taking her to the cinema or summit. I don't really like the job much though - the only good bit is celebrities coming into the shop. So far we've had John Simm, Danny Embrace, Jo Whiley (**swoooon**), Alexei Sayle and Bernard Butler. And that's only in a week. Everything's ridiculously overpriced, but looks quite trendy. It's just really boring and shop policy is that you have to stand up all the bluddy time, which gets really tiring after a while. Anyway, I'm currently making a mix-tape for Hannah Brown of my favourite songs ever, and it's just becoming really anthemic and cheesy (some might say "rousing"), which is a bit funny really. She's making one for me too - god knows why. Perhaps she's just trying to get into my pants... Anyway, the first Embrace album is now playing, because I'm trying to work out which tracks are truly brilliant and which are just good. Any suggestions welcome. Anyway, I must stop starting all my paragraphs with "anyway", and must start stopping this post. See you all at some point in the future... love .Sam//x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 19:28:14 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:28:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: hum bum bum rub mum's tum Message-ID: dear Sinister, i am another of those whacthyamucallits who have finished exams.. it's such a shame i've another year of school & uni to go :/ anyway, in the middle of my nothings-going-on i was watching some lovely daytime television and in particular The Great Outdoors which, in one of the features, had Mayfly as the music in the background the usual stuff where they cut out half the song & manage to get the cadence in and no more i'm going out in my tent tomorrow with lots of friends going to be camping it up quite a bitty & i can't wait lastly, i have 2 tickets for Carnegie hall for sale how much are they? i won't charge the booking fee, anyway if anyone could buy them off me, (i can sell them seperately too) id be very grateful indeed take care m'sweets johnjohnjohnjohnbaaa x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 20:42:49 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (M. Timothy Meskers) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:42:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rhode Island. Message-ID: Hello friends, I've got a few things to post about this time. THE LOCUST I am jealous of Andrew Churchman, for I was going to see the Locust in Philly on early July but I've got to go to a wedding. THE LETTER TO ISOBEL The letter to Isobel is a bit embarassing and is very wrinkled from being in my gym shorts for much of the semester. I am afraid it is rather anti-climactic and that posting it may be a bit dull for the readers. Plus, a lot of the words are smeared and/or crossed out so I'd have to fill in new bits on my own. THE BLACK SESSIONS VIDEO I got my Black Sessions video in the post yesterday. I really enjoyed it, although the picture quality was, er, not so good... do the camera angles during Poupee de Cire, Poupee de Son make anyone else feel a bit disoriented? Perhaps it's just my brain doing an Isobel overload of sorts. COLDPLAY I know they're not exactly revered on the list, but if anybody's going to the Philly show tomorrow, e-mail me please, I'd love to meet you. RHODE ISLAND I read on a website that Belle & Sebastian were originally called Rhode Island. Is this true? And if so, why? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jun 1 20:54:00 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:54:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Bournemouth Runner Message-ID: <001501c0ead4$b2141200$7662253e@itjfvkli> I have it on good authority that the theatre in Bournemouth where B&S are playing has one of those old wurlitzer organs that comes up out of the ground, which is good news for Chris Geddes fans everywhere, and should ensure a sell-out crowd. I'm not making this up by the way. The wurlitzer has probably got a mind of its own and will rise up silently with all its lights flshing when Isobel starts singing. In fact, it'll probably go on the whole tour and rise up silently with all its lights flashing behind Big Stu in the Royal Albert Hall. And you'll probably find it propping up the bar in the Saracen's Head when you all troop in for a pint of draught Buckfast before the Barrowlands gigs. I'm reading a book called PLEASE KILL ME. It's absolutely filthy. I'm sure you'd all like it. It's about "punk rockers". Mr Chris is playing tomorrow night. Full report on Monday please. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From megatherion5 at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 21:25:27 2001 From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:25:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Disco....the Secretaries Blues Message-ID: Hello....Sinister-at-Large: Well, the nebulous handle that I had at a real job has slipped through my grubby, guitar-calloused, little fingers. Downtown (no matter what Petula Clark says)does not always make things "ok" when you are down. Life in the district-financial was like a scene out of "Hudsucker Proxy", life in a crazed dank mailroom filled with incomprehensible rules. Truth being, that I lack the skills to work in an office.Those skills being: 1)Being able to act like I like people I don't. 2)Asking "how was your weekend?" to 10 different people and pretending that I care. 3)Talking about the weather at the water cooler. 4)Letting everyone under me do all my work and have fun taking credit for it. ("That's the way the system works, right?") 5)Being utterly scared of anyone with half a brain....afraid they'll take your job out from under you. ("Cause that's what you'd do, right?") So, I got the sack/laid off.....once again sunken up to unemployed status......and I DON'T MIND THE POVERTY! I really don't....(yeah, right!) Damn...four months was all I could stand...a failed experiment in living badly. All these folks graduating, I hope you find something that you like to do besides do what our favorite band does. It doesn't pay much being a musician, and there is no track to follow to assure you anything but "beggar-status". Just the belief in yourself and your abilities to emote and trust in the fact (conceit) that you have something to tell that might help people. Well, I have been neglecting that for too long. The Exiled Prince of Pickles P.S. The title of my post is the title of a song by Elephant 6ers Beulah...they also worked in the same district as me and they wrote that song about their experience being musicians and trying to work there. Take a listen to get a vicarious experience of what I am feeling. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 23:30:35 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:30:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: the time has come the sophie-walrus said to think of many things Message-ID: <80.b66f08d.2849718b@aol.com> I HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT FOR ALL i am searching for a song that is reflective of leaving a loved place/person. requirements: chill, and good. some examples: sugar mountain(neil young), another lonely day(ben harper), etc. please help. all suggestions will be very much appreciated. thank you sophie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Sat Jun 2 02:37:58 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:37:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: delaware picnic posponed! Message-ID: <20010602013758.61910.qmail@web10302.mail.yahoo.com> because of the monsoon currently falling on our fair state (and the surrounding ones as well) the picnic is going to be pushed back to next saturday, june 9, same sinister-place, same sinister-time. so, you hordes of people that were going to descend upon wilmington's rockford park to make it even more sinister than it currently is (hard to do, let me assure you) come next week. bring food. and picnic-y things to do, such as frisbees, naked twister, and the like. oh yeah, if you're going to come, let me know. I promise it'll be lots of fun! -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoffpritchard at xxx.com Fri Jun 1 00:39:12 2001 From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:39:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: it's risky and it's got woods in it Message-ID: <004c01c0ea2a$e660bf40$4dae7ad5@oemcomputer> I used to enjoy Jonathan David's witty editorials and his humorous game reviews back in the glory days of Amiga Power, but I can't see why B&S are writing a song about him. Whatever next, a whimsical ballad about Stuart Campbell, or maybe a rock-out 3 chord thrash about Mark Ramshaw? The Conservative propaganda leaflet that arrived on my doormat claimed that the Tories were "against all rules and regulations". I may have taken this out of context, as often happens when you only read 5 words of page, but I thought it was pretty radical anyway. Does anyone actually like the taste of lager? Loads of people drink it, including me I hasten to add, but I can't imagine anyone drinks it except to get pissed. Stuff like Stella and Bud is rank, but liquid like Castlemaine and Carling is just awful. If it was nice, everyone would be drinking alcohol free lager all day long, but they don't, cos lager tastes shite. Why don't people just drink wine, or amaretto, or gin and orange juice. It tastes grand, doesn't bloat you out, and still gets you tipsy. And after drinking a few beers in a pub, isn't it nice when the landlord stocks up the urinals with pieces of pineapple for you to munch on? Do girls also get fruity snacks left in their toilets? One day, when no one is looking, I might sneak in and have a look. Maybe this time the police will be a bit more lenient. Ever since ever I've had a long summer holiday of doing nothing. Now I've got a job though, and as you could imagine, I don't get all of July and August off work. Apparently this is standard practise, although I'm not convinced. I think I might call in sick with hayfever in early July, then reappear in September miraculously cured. Are there any jobs going where you don't have to work over the summer months? I suppose I could do whatever it is that ice-cream van people do during the rest of the year, such as teach. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Sat Jun 2 04:44:48 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:44:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I wanna be your joey ramone Message-ID: <006601c0eb16$60294860$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> I really do wanna be your Joey Ramone. Hullo Sinister children, I hope all is well in sinisterland. Michelle R went and said: "Mr. Jim mentioned Black Box Recorder" Which is funny because I've been called Mr Jim three or four times this week, and I haven't heard that in ages. It makes me smile because it was one of my nicknames as a kid. If you guessed the source of the subject line, give yourself a cookie. It comes, of course, from Sleater-Kinney's 'Call the Doctor' album and is the title of my favorite song of that album. It's brilliant, though I'm afraid it's not for some twee sinister folk. Long live the riot grrrls, I want to marry Corin Tucker...well, not really, but she does make brilliant music. Joey Ramone is gone of course, cancer took him a few weeks ago. *sigh* Was it that long ago I was standing on the top of a car screaming the words to 'We're a happy family'? I tried to get 'The KKK Took my Baby Away' as the senior class song, and if you knew the small michigan town I grew up in you'd see why it was appropriate. We ended up with a Garth Brooks song as the class song, you can be assured I was not pleased. I'm listening to Sleater-Kinney far too loud as I type this and I'm wishing I hadn't sold my electric guitar, then I look at my beloved 12-string and I'm happy again. I must get another electric one of these days. Ahh, Joey and the other Ramones were one of those things that helped keep me sane growing up. I feel as if I've just outted myself to the list. Yes folks, I lean much more towards the punky side of the 'indie' scene. Don't hold it against me, I love the sad bastard bands as much as I love the angry bastard bands and the happy bastard bands, it's just that I was much more the punky Clash and Sex Pistols kid than the Smiths and Morrissey kid, as I matter of fact, I really don't care for the smiths all that much (put down the knives my friends, it's just a personal opinion). Of course, I could never really get into the *scene* like others did. Didn't wear leather of have tattoos or five foot mohawks (because I've always thought mohawks a bit daft) and generally just wore what I wanted. The closest I got was short, spikey plum hair and a Clash or John Lennon (who wasn't punk, but whose t-shirt got me called a commie by some redneck in 11th grade, so close enough) t-shirt. I have to laugh at some of the punky kids nowadays in their Hot Topic clothes and borrowed attitude. Though if I was honest I'd admit there were plenty like that when I was growing up. Sometimes I think I must be getting old, but no, I don't feel old at all. I don't care much for *kewl* kids who get so into the scene and the spectacle, just give me the music please. The punk music, the indie music, the ska music, the blues, the electronic music, that's all I want, thank you. I've mellowed with age (ohhh, my bones are creaking as my 25th b-day looms a few months away). Mojave 3 follows S-K into the cd player and it makes me want to lay back under a shady tree somewhere. I wish I collected vinyl, I've always said I was going to start my collection, but I also realized that if I started, my I would quickly bankrupt myself. I do so love the sound of a record. One of these days I'll begin my collection. Or I'll just cheat and find a girl who has a record collection and marry her and her collection will become our collection...I rather like that idea. Has anyone heard the new AIR album? I hadn't realized it was out already and I think I must buy it soon. If you haven't heard the VIRGIN SUICIDES soundtrack, you should go buy it and listen to it, and then read the book, and then watch the movie. You will thank me, because they are all wonderful. Otherwise, your recommended music is "Winners Never Quit" by Pedro the Lion and "Orange Ryhming Dictionary" by Jets to Brazil. Recommended reading is Philip Pullman's DARK MATERIALS trilogy (Golden Compass, Subtle Knife, and Amber Spyglass) because they are brilliant fantasy novels that I read and shared with my twelve year old niece, and we both loved them. They're light years ahead of Mr. Potter's adventures (nothing wrong with Harry though) and they even outshine poor Frodo and his ring. It's finally sank in that I'm leaving the states for six weeks on sunday to travel around the UK and Europe and see Belle and Sebastian live and now I am filled with mad energy. This should prove to be a brilliant summer. If anyone needs to get ahold of me whilst I'm gone, I can be reached at jgilmer2001 at yahoo.com Hope to see some of you at the shows. Be Sinister... Jim +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk Sat Jun 2 09:58:52 2001 From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Mikey) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:58:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Very late picnic reminder! Message-ID: Hi, I've forgotten to remind you all that at 1o'clock today at the large stone entrance to the Botanical Gardens in Sheffield there will be a Sinister picnic, please feel free to come along and bring food and drink etc. Cheers, Mike +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sat Jun 2 11:41:06 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:41:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: why am i so lazy? Message-ID: <20010602104729.LJTW283.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.112.71]> unhappy :(was so lazy that only rung up albert hall on monday and had sold out. Damn. Hate myself. wish was less lazy and had more willpower. oh well...life goes on la la tumpty tumpty tumpt or sommat by the beatles. heard jonathan despite albert hall dissappointments, I will trek to the place beyond beyondness-Bournemouth which is even further than Dulwich, would you believe it? I wouldn't if I were you (sorry to all those who aren't au fait with the geography of london) being as I live in Hampstead (not my fault, please don't hurt me). +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sat Jun 2 11:54:16 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:54:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: why am i so lazy? Message-ID: <20010602110257.YUAP290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.112.71]> unhappy :(was so lazy that only rung up albert hall on monday and had sold out. Damn. Hate myself. wish was less lazy and had more willpower. oh well...life goes on la la tumpty tumpty tumpt or sommat by the beatles. heard jonathan david yesterday when they played it on Xfm, a radio station which has a slight smugness to it which I don't like but it is the only radio station i know that would even consider having anything to do with belle and sebastian so i have to listen to them. They're going to have b+s do a live session next week as well which i will force all my korn listening or geeky friends to listen to. Jonathan david is one of the most depressing songs done by belle+s so far. It really ought to be called joe ben, me being jonathan and some idiot i can't stand being david. despite albert hall dissappointments, I will trek to the place beyond beyondness-Bournemouth which is even further than Dulwich, would you believe it? I wouldn't if I were you (sorry to all those who aren't au fait with the geography of london) being as I live in Hampstead (not my fault, please don't hurt me). Has anyone else heard of Big Yoga Muffin and do they have the album as I can't find it anywhere in the shops and i only bought the single at the time not having the money easily available for another album on top of what i was buying already? Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sat Jun 2 12:15:44 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:15:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: kill all computers Message-ID: <20010602112207.DXXM283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.118.170]> That last post of mine was, for some reason cut up in the most despicable way and I don't know why. Here is the full version and if this is mashed up like the last one i will smash this stupid semi-translucent computer into 30000000000very small pieces which i will then flush down the bog, which will probably block it and cause lots of problems but MY PURE UNFETTERED ANGER SHOULD REACH YOU THROUGH THE USE OF CAPITALS. unhappy :(was so lazy that only rung up albert hall on monday and had sold out. Damn. Hate myself. wish was less lazy and had more willpower. oh well...life goes on la la tumpty tumpty tumpt or sommat by the beatles. heard jonathan david yesterday when they played it on Xfm, a radio station which has a slight smugness to it which I don't like but it is the only radio station i know that would even consider having anything to do with belle and sebastian so i have to listen to them. They're going to have b+s do a live session next week as well which i will force all my korn listening or geeky friends to listen to. Jonathan david is one of the most depressing songs done by belle+s so far. It really ought to be called joe ben, me being jonathan and some idiot i can't stand being david. despite albert hall dissappointments, I will trek to the place beyond beyondness-Bournemouth which is even further than Dulwich, would you believe it? I wouldn't if I were you (sorry to all those who aren't au fait with the geography of london) being as I live in Hampstead (not my fault, please don't hurt me). Has anyone else heard of Big Yoga Muffin and do they have the album as I can't find it anywhere in the shops and i only bought the single at the time not having the money easily available for another album on top of what i was buying already? Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sat Jun 2 21:36:51 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:36:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Galaxies and Beautiful Effects Message-ID: -Look I'm going to read you something, won't you at least stop fidgeting and give me your full attention... -Ok, I promise, I was listening to you anyway,but now you can see my face you believe me don't you? -I'm not entirely sure, but I'm really want to read you this so I will give you the benefit of the doubt, just this once you understand? Its just it seems important: "In the universe today, galaxies usually drift past one another like ships in the night, missing each other by large distances. The chance collision of galaxies with gas clouds or one another result in strange often beautiful effects, caused not by actual collison of matter but by the gravitational pull of matter. The close encounters result in new star formations, rekindling of quasars by adding vast amounts of matter to the accretion disk surrounding black holes, and even ripping away stars which are lost into intergalatic space"* -hmmm... well that was nice... I'm not sure, what you mean though? -I don't mean anything thats the whole point. But can't you understand? If things so great, so much bigger than ourselves are happening by luck, how on earth are we supposed to stand a chance? At the same time, though, its brilliant, we are out of control... the most beautiful things in life happen by accident... its not our fault. We were just born insignificent... - I'm not sure I like this train of thinking, it seems to me you are using yet another excuse to wriggle out of real life, I'm not sure how much longer you can keep this up? -I'm not honestly, but what makes you so sure I'm wrong? What if this is what real life is? Put it this way: what if I had not heard of Belle and Sebastian? and you hadn't either? would we be here now? I very much doubt it. And look what we have. It is so much more than either of us know. But its pure chance. And that is just the one thing. You have to start looking around. Right now. What's the most beautiful thing you see? I will bet you anything it has happened by accident. *Promega Catologue: Protocols and applications guide "The Source of Discovery" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Jun 1 01:31:00 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:31:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: an upturned boat/sine die Message-ID: <3B16E244.2BEB3779@netscapeonline.co.uk> Oh I am becoming too regular. Doctors say it's healthy. essentially a note to Scots listees. It's a book I bought and read today called 'Without Day'. I bought it in a place which featured a big cartoon horse leaping from weird orange territory with a black plastic bucket over its head. There was also the sight and sound of artificial rain made by coloured plastic balls shown on a wee stereo TV set, and some photos, one of which makes a multi-storey car-park look GRATE. All glowing, like, through the concrete at night. Anyway, this book deals with the issue of the new Scottish Parliament. The title of the book refers to the terms of the dissolution of the old one; i.e. the last parliament in Scotland hundreds of years ago didn't exactly ever stop, but just agreed to not arrange another meeting. Until recently that is. Anyways, seeings as I'm in a (very) small capacity involved in the building that will house the new parliament, this book is fascinating reading, for it contains all kinds of wonderful and profound proposals from artists and writers and poets about things they'd like to be part of this parliament-of-ours-thingy. Happily, I reckon they have a kindred spirit in the now departed architect of the building to be but, what the book implicitly suggests is that here is an opportunity of a wee and seemingly now rather culturally liberated and not half bad too country to do our stuff... it's fun and optimistic and more 'singing and dancing in the rain' than drowning in the drizzle. OK, not Belle and Sebastian and, if you read the book, no isolationist or parochial tract either... I just thought I'd recommend it. For example, it contains a proposal for an open kitchen. There is also a proposal for democracy by way of attracting exotic birds to party-political bird tables in the gardens. Nice, hopeful things :) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sat Jun 2 04:37:43 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 04:37:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the streetlight makes the streets brown-orange, like a negative Message-ID: <3B185F87.4C377900@netscapeonline.co.uk> this is in reference to #sinister chat on the beginnings of 2 June I am unhappy I got blood on the tracks. I saw a leviathan dark sail over the sun then the bright, golden void stroke from the other side later chemins du fer and rule becomes the role of iron and the sidings became sided went way of sadness: nihil-est we know, way-wrong west is a peculiar of torture we are apparently devising in beliefs confined to however many keys we can type in the moment there is no express: the paper coffee cups ran out stumbling, lurching hulks of machismo hope derailed stumbling, lurching hulks of machismo hope get this vast bulk of train back on the tracks I cannot prove this commitment since Siberia where sixteen of us carried a child's shoot, swimming down a fast and shallow muddy river: it was an easy thing to do, a heroic thing in which to be involved; well I don't believe it but it might devise rhetoric blank from the above Far greater are my torments of not only my mind; But the minds of now not nameless others It is a form of interrelationship Which carries the same substance as all other forms; Commitment to the troubles of faith. I have none: Have you? Gordon there are lines of music which dance around our faith: they perform and subsist: they live in a meta-tenor... other sound or way of being human... a sigh or cry of delight! Some of us do not cling to these things so much as see it as a natural part:; not delicacy: necessity. I am learning. I am learning not to be arch about your things; nor do I wish to understand in the completeness of controlling the inventiveness in you... please accept my apology for the offence my ego blasts... I have resolved the dichotomy; this is not the matter and, as you say: be unconcerned with it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markheyward at xxx.com Sun Jun 3 12:31:14 2001 From: markheyward at xxx.com (mark heyward) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 04:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: re:Andy Votel Message-ID: <20010603113114.6514.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> I've just read someone's message saying that they thought that Andy Votel is 'the coolest guy in the world.'I'm sorry,but this is obviously some kind of joke-unless your idea of cool is a cross between Dave Lee Travis and a tramp.What's more,the 'guy' is one of the rudest and most ignorant people that I've ever had the misfortune of meeting.He parades up and down Oldham Street(in Manchester)with his brown-nosing group of sycophantic hangers-on,sneering down his hairy snout at anybody not wearing the right Adidas trainers.
I know that this sounds a little bitter and personal,but I'm sick of people thinking that he's some kind of genius.Most of his ideas are so patently plagiarized(Burt Bacharach produced music boxes of his tunes about 35 years ago,the Alfie logo is about 25 years old...)and the people who are really creative and talented in Manchester are completely ignored if they don't fit in with his little clique.
I suppose I'd better pause for breath now...
And don't even get me started on Monkey-Boy from Alfie.
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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Sun Jun 3 21:09:43 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: 3 Jun 2001 16:09:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Birmingham! Come and see! Message-ID: <20010603200943.12763.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From MIWinship at xxx.com Mon Jun 4 02:45:01 2001 From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:45:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Megatron belongs to nobody Message-ID: <11.1544f894.284c421d@aol.com> Bah weep, grah nah weep ninny bong, to the other Gemini Sinisterines. Just had another birthday. It was OK. I have been regressing to the age of 11 lately, and watching Transformers The Movie tonight was the pinnacle (managed about half of the Thundercats film, too). Don't know why, but David Bowie has been having an amazing influence on me lately. Glass Spider/Berlin Trilogy/Young Americans......yeah..... Saw The Mummy Returns today. It's ridiculous, but in a good way (Donna Air cameo hilarious). If that wasn't enough, there were trailers for Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider, too. Hmm, I'm sure there's something I'm meant to go to in two weeks time, but I can't remember what. Can't be all that important, I suppose...... Haven't seen that frog for a while. Must be planning something.... 1/4 of a century. So, this is what it's like...... Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bipedalboy at xxx.com Mon Jun 4 04:27:10 2001 From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:27:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: another day out in san francisco Message-ID: <82.b7cc632.284c5a0e@aol.com> so, im new to this list and new in san francisco. im currently interning for a toy company here in san fran, but originally from new york. i guess everything in my life is kind of sweet, with this internship and all, i just feel i wished i knew more B&S people around here. can anyone here help me out.... i dunno, if anyone is interested in getting a pint, sushi, or some chocolate give me a buzz..... sidhe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Mon Jun 4 06:44:26 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: your back pages Message-ID: Someone should have told me that all I needed to do to get Peter Miller's references was to read Vogue. And it's not even a current issue. The one with Penelope Cruz on the cover from spring break cos the only justification for buying these is being stuck on a plane. Talk about guilty pleasures. Fashion photography is truly stunning sometimes. Like when W first came out, I remember this two-page add with a woman striding across a room of mirrors at odd angles wearing a rose colored gown. It was splendid! I wish I had saved it. Actually, I don't know much more than I did before about Capt. Corelli. And what I said gives the false impression that Peter Miller's references are easy to get. But everyone knows the contrary is true. No, please don't bother to explain. Listen to this excerpt from an article about Renee Fleming: "Music is erotic for the listener - and for the singer, according to Fleming: 'My real taste, my real sensibility, lies with music that I feel is sexy.' The quality she finds most sensual is 'pulling'. Think of taffy or isometrics or a suspension bridge. The sung lines stretch, to the breaking point; the soprano's voice must sound inhumanly clear, shimmering, strong, and yet vulnerable. The phrases - especially in Strauss or in Rachmaninoff - are elongated over harmonies whose resolution is postponed, the dissonances lovingly retained rather than rejected." Gosh, what amazing writing, esp. that last sentence! And what a lovely, complex thing to describe! (There's something reckless about how Alasdair C deliberately writes hard vocal parts. Stuart's falsetto seems to come so naturally. And others write for 'glamorous microphone dames'.) I don't have any evidence that Ferdinand said "'Love' is a sign." It seems like something he could have said. But when Robert sings "Love is a sign", he must be using the word 'love' (rather then just mentioning it). So then how is love a sign? If love is a sign, then what we mean by the word 'love' must bear an arbitrary relation to whatever it stands for. In other words, love must be an abstraction, established by convention, that lumps together things like green and violet blue waterlilies, snow cuffs... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Jun 4 19:55:03 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:55:03 -0700 Subject: Sinister: re:Andy Votel References: <20010603113114.6514.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B1BD987.3889@camb.linst.ac.uk> yes mark you are very very right. i fell into a trap and if you found the second messege i later realised he is a complete twat, i am also very glad you agree, lets start a hate campagn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Mon Jun 4 12:40:01 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:40:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: public apology Message-ID: <20010604114641.WSPF283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.98.239]> this is a post to say how very, very sorry i am for making you recieve 3 copies of the same rather boring and lacking in content post. and as a mark of respect to all those who fell, i'm not going to use capitals for this post.[deepest regrets] i reckoned that short and simple said it all rather than long waffly rubbish involving gushy nonsense and hollywood-style heart-to-hearts. I have a lot of extremely free time at the moment. Lots of it. And to relieve my boredom, I'm going to give you some musings which vary immensely in quality. i wrote some new words to "a whiter shade of pale" which were entitled "a darker shade of black", "a blacker shade of dark" being a crappy name and me not feeling like giving it an original one. i won't tell you how they went but i might run something where you have to compose new words for a reasonably well-known 60's song. i don't know how that would go down with all of you but some feedback on the idea would be appreciated as long as it's not too critical in an abrasive manner in which case you can keep it to yourself. i have been catching up on my sinister mail although i still have forty messages to go. i walked past the shop where sam walton works today but i hadn't read that one at that point so i didn't know he worked there and so didn't go and say hello and also i think i would have been too nervous being as i don't know you or what you look like. i hope my rather odd use of the word 'you' meaning both individuals and the sinister mailing list as a whole is not confusing you too much (it's somewhat like the divine comedy for those of you who've read it, and if you haven't, don't bother) has anyone noticed that the word 'tao' is remarkably similar to the first three letters of 'toast' with the 'a' and the 'o' switched around. not a coincidence, i think. if any of you feel like getting so depressed that you actually do want to jump, read a very good book called 'they shoot horses don't they'. it's a tour de force of staggering genius from start to, well, where i've got to at least. this post is a bit long so i'll cut it short and not waste yet more of your time despite having even more little comments to make, Joe PS sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I cannot express my complete groveliness in words but i hope you can imagine it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Mon Jun 4 19:33:57 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:33:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Where is Dunfermline and the Dalai Lama speaks Message-ID: <018c01c0ed24$ea627320$0300a8c0@crockery> Hullo sinisterines, I went through the archives ( a useful thing to do, occasionally) to see how Honey would put this. There have been a lot of posts recently - which is good! However, there are some very nice guidelines and stuff in the faq about posts to sinister. I quote from a mail which Honey sent some time ago, when there were only 500 people on the list, and I think they are worth bearing in mind. Please, I am not getting at anyone in particular, but observing these makes the list a better place. Trust me. First, please think when you are sending a mail that 1400 people will be reading it, and it is worth putting some time and effort into it. Even if it a short one:) Honey said "The drill is: compose your message... hover your finger over the send key for 10 seconds...think whether we all want to hear and whether Cliff Richard (or the Dalai Lama) would approve... send." After a few moments pondering, you might think that 1400 people and the archive (there forever..) may not really need to hear that you agree with a previous post, or that if you do, you can at least expand and improve the debate... Secondly, please don't use the list for private mail or mail to about 5 people. Some specific content in a general message is fine but please don't rattle on for ages. And if you are advertising something (which is generally discouraged but if it is about list-members or of specific B&S interest then) please try to mention it in an otherwise witty and touching post, rather than just mail it out Don't quote gallons of text and add a line. If you're quoting more than you're saying don't bother. When we are all so excited about the concerts and new songs (even though I think Jonathan David is rubbish, but then I have only heard it once and I can't make any sense of it, it is a mad song, and not in a good way), I am very loathe to be a wet blanket and am not saying that anyone is bad; everyone is very welcome in sinister and everyone is lovely, and sometimes it takes a lot of guts to write a post. I was trembling when I did my first one (maybe I should tremble more, now) but that the more care people take, the better the list is for everyone. Good posts inspire others - they are funny, or informative, or touching, or are about sinisterines the world over. We should have drawings of us in National Costume. I had a book with National Costume once, and the English National Costume was a policeman's uniform...Peter Millar wears this to all the fiestas he need to go to. Finito Not long to go now, is it? I have just realised that we (me and Honey) are going to five B&S gigs, which I hope is not some sort of a record for paying customers. There must be someone going to more... However, there is the social element of seeing new and lovely people, and guess what! if you can't get out of your own country for legal or religious reasons, you can watch us on the web. I was thrilled to discover that Dunoon has its own webcam, http://www.dunoon.org/ which unfortunately was not operational when I tried this evening, but I am sure Dunoon councillors will get their fat municipal arses in gear to get it working by Saturday. See Richard stagger down the gangplank of the Dunoon Ferry, carrying his drum kit, of course! See Stuart drink tea in The Olympian Cafe-Bar "Great either day or night"..However I am a bit worried that on the same night The Alexander Brothers will be swinging their kilts in Strachur Memorial Hall, 19:30 for 20:00. How civilised! 19:30 for 20:00! Now come on, that isn't fair. They have been much better recently... That's all. Love, Linda xxx Surrogate List Mam (Hand hovering over the send button for the regulation time..) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Jun 4 20:06:55 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:06:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: the sound of silence Message-ID: <3e.c9e906d.284d364f@aol.com> Well, in chime with my subject line, sinister has been real quite this past week, and it makes me wonder about stuff... You know, I used to run a radio show with the girl that introduced me to B&s by the name of "the sound of silence." I know that's random, but it'll be okay. Well, I'm bored, a friend of mine who I was supposed to go to the record store with ditched out on me for her boyfriend, which she was just complaining about ditching her. I love hypocrites. I know this post is full of personal random crap, but I'm in that kind of mood, I apologize to anyone who doesn't want to listen, but I never made you... My best friend from elementary school is moving to Florida for a job this summer, and another girl I know from Elementary school had a mother who died this week. That makes four mothers out of thirty-two from that class. Cancer is so sad! I don't know if the deathtoll is getting so high for all of you but I'm still real young. Sadly, reading entertainment Weekly I found a horrible review for the new radiohead album, which I am yet to purchase. They sad it was a C+ album that should've been named Kid B. WHatdo you think? I'll end this somber note on another one.... This past week or so I've talked to two or three people from Chicago about arranging our own picnic, so if anyone has an Idea about that, where/when/if interested.... pass me a line. Maybe we can get one together. Kate "I am the princess of everything, I ate a crayon and Turned into an Indian." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Mon Jun 4 22:16:35 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (m.e. curtin) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: I prefer honeydew myself, but there's no accounting for taste! Message-ID: ON GREETINGS Screw greetings, I'm going to dive into this fair and square. ON MYSELF AND THE POSTAL SERVICE I was reflecting on my contributions to this list last night, and it took all of ten seconds for me to realize just how inadequate and altogether forgettable I am. Aside from my gallant apple butter bonanza, I might as well be an All Saints fan (shudder). Since no one will remember this, then, I'm making a very obvious plea for mail. I know I'm a pathetic creature, but can you blame me for liking packages? No. So if you like spending money on postage, or perhaps you have excellent penmanship, send me something. Anything. A tape, a letter, a severed body part - whatever you see fit. I promise I'd send a tape, a letter or a severed body part back, depending on the case. Keep it in mind kidlets. I'm nice and I always find pretty stamps to use. ON MY FATHER AND RANDOM PHRASES This is the first of two rather feeble B&S related comments, so be prepared. My parents were bickering over something the other day, and I think my mom wanted my father to do something like yell at the neighbours, which she wouldn't do herself as she felt my father deserved such a dubious task. I don't understand this part of the story, but the key thing is that my father, unwilling to follow my mom's wishes, said:"Well, talk about being Johnathan to your David!" Whoa. "What the hell did you just say?" is what I said, in less-than-polite terms, to my father and he repeated it. I was confused. What are the odds of such an obscure turn of phrase being uttered on the eve(ish) of a certain single's release? I don't even understand what he was trying to say. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised that my father said this, because this is the same man who once asked my mother to call him a melon. "what teh hell for?", asks my mother, "So you can be my melon-cally baby!", replies my father, sagely. It's comments like those that destroy any semblance of filial love. ON FREE MUSIC MAGAZINES AND THEIR FUNNY COMMENTARY I was reading this magazine called Exclaim the other day as I waited for the bus, and i Noticed a review of the much-maligned Kings of Convenience. Anyway, the author writes: "They remain a cross between a sexier Simon and Garfunkel and Belle and Sebastian without the annoying self-righteous attitude." At this I L-A-U-G-H-E-D uncontrollably, knowing just how annoying comments like these are, especially to certain members of this list. How positively G-O-T-H-I-C! It's now my goal to be as cripplingly (?) self-righteous as possible, so THERE! ON CARNIES They're very frightening. I work in a park and the carnival has come to town. They've begun setting it up and they are a unique breed of people. One carnie came up to me, presumably as I was the first woman he's seen without a beard in a while, and he says:" EH baby! I can get you a free ride on the Zipper any time you like! I found this to be curiously sophisticated double entendre for a man of such bearing. Oh well, at least the carnies find a niche in a park full of the sexually misadventurous and the mentally unsound. ON ALL THINGS UNPRONOUNCABLE Several years ago I was working in a department store, and this man with a very exotic accent came up to me and asked me for help finding some shoes. He was very nice and I was very nice and we got him a nice new pair of shoes. Then he was asking me where a good record store was, so I told him. Then he asked me what music I liked so I told him that too. He said to me, upon hearing my preferences, that I should try to hear some stuff by this band Sigur Ros (apparently he was from Iceland after all). I didn't think much about it. Now, of course, they are positively SOUGHT AFTER! I thought I'd give them a try. I must say, they arene't half bad. It strikes me as strangely efficacious make-out music, but I've no proof of that. I just wish I had looked a little harder for them when that man told me to, and I wouldn't feel like such a dolt for jumping on the bandwagon now. ON GORDON I, too, like this curious lister Gordon. I know I'm a bit late in owing up to this, but I'm slow of mind anyway. I like to think that if I met him in the street (which I doubt i EVER will) I could call him Gordie just once. He probably wouldn't like that though. He strikes me as nice, (goodness, I'm being positively stricken in this post) though for all I know he tortures kitties in dark alleyways. I doubt that though. I very much liked Gordon's handling of J. & D. The next time you're perusing your Bible Mr. Gordon, perhaps you could relate to us the story of Ruth. Ruth is my confirmation name, but I can't for the life of me remember why. I went to a pagan high school, so I've forgotten the little biblical knowledge I may have ever possessed. Keep up the good work Gordie! ON GENEVIEVE Where the hell is she? She has such a lovely name. ON CLOSINGS Screw closings, I'm just going to leave, fair and square. Yours, positively, Marybeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 10:35:23 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:35:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: why do lovely things end so quickly? Message-ID: just spent the most amazing w\e. went climbing with a few people I met on my rockclimbing course and had the greatest time... also managed to play b&s on the car stereo: hope the person whom I was directing the music to understood all that i was trying to say... hmm. think i'm in a mess now. big crush dei baci a tutti Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 10:43:18 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:43:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: post scriptum Message-ID: > >Has anyone heard the new AIR album? I hadn't realized it was out already >and >I think I must buy it soon. If you haven't heard the VIRGIN SUICIDES >soundtrack, you should go buy it and listen to it, and then read the book, >and then watch the movie. You will thank me, because they are all >wonderful. > about the VIRGIN SUICIDES I think the right order would be: a) read the book b) listen to the soundtrack c) watch the movie sofia coppola and air made the book turn into a wonderful melanchonic bedtime story _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue Jun 5 11:48:03 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:48:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bobbins Message-ID: <3B1CB8E3.7126553F@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello all, i was thinking today that Belle and Sebastian is quite a long name for a band and so i thought id follow the current trend and jazz it up a bit, you know give it more street cred, what about B. Sebbie,or B feat seb, that sounds absoultely shit doesnt it, oopps, sorry, thats the point? any modern suggestions would be good, come on guys, lets slap B&S right into da 21st century, BO! That poor sams in denial, he thinks i want to get into his pants, ive never even met the guy. Does anyone know who he is? He seems to be spending a lot of time doing that tape. ive done mine and it's fab. Um a bit of embarrassing news. the primrose hill film didnt come out, its my new camera you see, it needs a proper light measure. im gonna salvage it as best i can but to be honest with you its a complete shambles. Any words of kindness would be much apriciated cause i feel a fool. One more thing, if anyone wants me to make them a t-shirt of any kind send me your idea and size and ill make you one, my course is finishing and i need something to keep me sane. dont make it too difficult though, and i draw the line at porn. by that i mean "i wont do it", not " i will draw it", if you know what i mean, no i didnt think so. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 11:48:30 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:48:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow's where the dobbers go Message-ID: <3B525573@MailAndNews.com> Hello list, Having no uni or no job is fun, I had an amazingly fun time travelling first up to Offbeat night in Sheffield for some B&S dancing and excessive Red Bull and vodka drinking, then felt ill the next day and went to the Sheffield picnic and met some nice people and had a fun time. Then, feeling worse for wears drove up to Glasgow (as you do) for the first time ever for fun and frolics weekend watching various goth bands (e.g. stabiliser) and people. Glasgow is great! I meant.. Glasgoo es fookin' grrea', ye fandan. Drank lager (eek) and a few Red Bull and vodkas and then felt ill the next days, then endangering everyone on the M6, drove back to Nottingham through the scenic road with some amazing BIG hills. I stopped at one of the service stations where you can see everywhere around, and just sat in the car and ate crisps and drank red bull, and "Beautiful" came on the car stereo, I looked at all the hills around and realised how small I am and went all sentimental, as opposed to just mental like I usually am. I heard the Johnny and Dave single, and it's grate, I was so moved I almost bought a carriage clock and shoved it, but I didn't. Sorry to hear about Jason McKinnon losing his job, well he got fired but it was their loss cos he's a pocketbook angel. but he also said: >>and there is no track to follow to assure you anything but "beggar-status".<< except for getting a casio keyboard with a "demo" button, an old musician with a big 70's hit, go to top of the pops, press the demo button and watch the cash flowing in. Welcome to the prosperous road of the Electric Avenue. Or, if you have a large fan base already, and a casio keyboard, and can yodel, you can do experimental music, bash some keys on the keyboard, and yodel over it. Bingo! Cash AND world fame for being experimental and ground breaking. Jump in the river what do i see, a good review on the N M Eeeeee. But if you don't have a large fan base, you'll end up with Panpipes relaxation tape, which also sells well on the QVC shopping channel so all is not lost. That's what I'm banking on if I don't get the job I'm applying for. vodkabird said: >>I am a Brummie born and bred<< Yup that is correct :-) Talking of vodka, Geoff said: >>Does anyone actually like the taste of lager? Loads of people drink it, including me I hasten to add, but I can't imagine anyone drinks it except to get pissed. .....Why don't people just drink wine...<< Surely drinking it to get pissed is a good enough reason to drink it, If people just want a nice drink and not get wellied, they wouldn't drink wine either, they'd drink red bull. If they want a nice drink and still get hammered, they'd drink vodka and red bull. Easy. Brummies and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Tue Jun 5 12:35:11 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 12:35:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ponce around the block?? Message-ID: <3902033214.991744511@pc235044.pctc.liv.ac.uk> Don't suppose anyone is interested in going to see B&S in Scarborough with me are they? None of my friends can make it or dont like them enough. Seems a shame if anyone else in in the same situation of having to go on there own...'whimper' I am sane and everything. A girl would be prefered cos, you know they are less likely to want to steal all my chips and money. All apologies if im not supposed to do this. I was going to check through the rules and regulations but then realized it would be quicker to read Crime and Punishment, so ill do that instead. Less of the bitterness towards the Twisted Nerve gang. Ive met Gough, Votel and the Alfie boys and they were really cool. Very little sign of the pretention a couple of you bitter people have levelled at them. Yes they hang around Oldham Street. Guess why? Cos thats where the best record shops and places to drink are. Im gonna start a campaign to make sure their new local is one of those crummy old pubs near Affleck's Palace and the Colesseum! The ones full of people who fought in wars and..err fight in pubs. Yay! That would show them! And from now on they must hang about in Moss Side with the Crack dealers just so you people don't happen to see them. Wotcha reckon?? Just read Franny and Zooey again. I really love it. Anyone got any views? I imagine some people would find it really boring, but it fascinates me. I always learn something new from it everytime i read it. Laters Simple Troubador +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Jun 5 14:13:00 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:13:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: On Casio Keyboards etc Message-ID: <20010605131300.13474.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Tell you what. That Ken Chu isn't a patch on the old Kenneth P. Y. Chu. I preferred his earlier low-key stuff before he got big enough to sell out the Albert Hall. Seriously though, folks being unemployed must be grate 'cos he's writing quality posts lately*, particularly the bit which reminded me of Casio keyboards. I used to have an SK-1 when I were a lad which could sample up to 5 seconds of noise so you could play tunes with it. I think my seminal opus 'WawawanwanWanker!' was much more groundbreaking than Thom Yorke Whines Over 6 Minutes of Feedback and One Fingered Piano (Again)**. Unfortunately I sold the keyboard in the early 90s after flannel shirts, guitars and suicide became popular. Damn. He also mentioned QVC which is also grate but is beaten out in overall naffness by the Shop! channel available to all digital subscribers. Just don't ever tune in to Shop! Erotica. You'll have nightmares for the rest of your life. Hannah said: "bobbins" And rightly so 'cos her ace film failed to come out. This is a terrible shame largely because the world has been robbed of the opportunity to see a clearly incapable man dancing quite badly on top of a hill. Sorry Hannah - I'm sure the next one will be even ace-er, especially if I'm not in it. "bobbins" is a grate word which reminds me of being in Manchester and also Mark & Lard before the daytime radio sell-out (1st time I heard B&S as well *sigh*). Nice to see the Shirehores are still going. Anyone know if they're touring? Wow! That post very nearly flowed. Robster http://nicerspace.tripod.com The world's least fastest-growing website * I would too if I had all that time to swan around Glasgow getting drunk GRRRRR!! ** Actually I think Radiohead are great. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Tue Jun 5 15:00:02 2001 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:00:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: another year, another artery hardened... Message-ID: <3B1C8372.30851.28D5A5@localhost> It seems that the time of the year has come again known as "Rob's Birthday." This glorious day should be remembered and celebrated by all. Or so I used to think. I laughed at my parents and my friends when they said as you get older your birthday gets less and less a momentous occasion. But I have to agree. The excitement of my birthday celebration this year consisted of watching "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" with my sister while eating take-out Thai food. And then an unplanned meeting with a lovely Japanese girl at a cafe who shouted my name, her voice echoing off the stucco walls and cobblestone walkway, fading into the 5:00 traffic. A few words said, half a double-shot red-eye downed, and I was off into the growing shadows with a bag full of sandwich and my head full of her lovely face and of Buddha's glory and the Sumi-e I was going to paint that day. I drove by and she waved and said something, her mouth moving, her voice unheard outside the closed window and the Autechre that was blasting my eardrums. But today, my birthday, there is a full moon. Last time there was a full moon, an old junkie queen kept asking me if I wanted to turn a trick for $10. But it was Sunday. I have to go to work now, I'm running a little bit late. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "She's stuck in an infinite loop, and he's an idiot... that's love for you." - futurama. http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infi nite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 15:41:21 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:41:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: so oranges really aren't the only fruit? Message-ID: what is this band LOOPER that stuart david is invloved in? is it just him? have i just not been paying attention? are they good? i just watched the film "oranges are not the only fruit" last night and it was fabulous. i highly, highly, highly, recomend it. -kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 18:55:02 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: on a high, and getting down the broads Message-ID: <20010605175502.25687.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all. I've just returned from a class trip out to the norfolk broads. It was such a fantastic day, I really have to tell you all about it. We hired out a boat for the day, and drove down the broads. We stopped at a pub for a coffee, and then later on we stopped and moored and had our picnic, then we went to a church and really, everything was brilliant. The company, the wildlife, the beautiful elegant houses built along the rivers edge. I even had a chance to drive the boat. well, it only had a maximum speed of five miles an hour. The moorhens and their chicks followed us in the boats wake, chasing us for food. The swans and the ducks and ducklings dove after us as well. The moorhens seemed to have some sort of odd thing going on.. as I drove, I tried to avoid them, but they seemed so intent on just going straight under the boat, that I stopped avoiding them and drove straight over them, and then they would bob out behind. I saw a kingfisher as well, it darted over the front of the boat while I was driving. I've never seen a kingfisher before, but as a kid, it was my favourite bird because it was so beautiful. Now I've actually seen one. I thought it was a sparrow at fist, til I saw its colours. That has totally made my day. We sunbathed, and we drank. We had brought food with us, but the teacher and another girl in the class had made really nice food... pasta, kous kous, salad, omlette with peppers and leeks. We went to this incredibly church, and everyone went up to the steeple to see the view. Except me. I hate spiral staircases, and there were two ladders as well. So i stayed firmly at ground level. I wouldn't have been able to get down otherwise.. I'm so scared of heights. two of our class lazed on the boat deck, in front f the steering wheel, as we drove back. I had to lift my head a bit to see past their bottoms in the windscreen. Now we've decided to hire out a boat for graduation, and drive down the broads again. Weather permitting. It was such a wonderful day, I'd taken three cameras, with about 36 shots between them left. Now they're all ready for developing. I wasn't sure about taking my expensive camera, worrying about it getting damaged or wet. But I'm glad I did now. I just can't wait to see the pictures. The only thing that irritated me was my hayfever, It started off today. While I was driving, of course. I never realised how lovely Norfolk can be. But what I have seen today... I've never seen such beauty like it. Scotland is stunning, but Norfolk... I now know why all those elderly relative and neighbours were telling me how lovely it is. Sorry theres no B+S content, but let a girl enjoy her high and tell you all about it. :) Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 20:02:17 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:02:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Memories Filled with Music Message-ID: My sister gained a bit of a reputation as an alcohol expert whilst in university: �At the age of 5 or 6 I learnt about red wine from my grandparents, may grandad poured single malt whisky into my ice cream whilst nobody was looking, and I drank champagne cocktails with an elderly aunt� For some reason people found this strange. I on the other hand found it strange that this is not normal. I had a similar revelation when visiting friends house�s and realised that their parents didn�t listen to music or at least not in the same way that mine did. At the age of 23 I am coming to the conclusion that my relationship with music has something to do with my upbringing. Culprit Number One-My Dad: One memory immediately springs to mind: Having just moved house thing were not as they should be. Boxes stood unemptied and things had yet to find a rightful place from which to be disturbed. I sat on thick orange carpet in the new front room barely daring to move. My dad was near by kneeling at the record player. The carpet was hardly visible as piles of unalphabetised records covered it. My dad played me music, made me guess if a track was a blues song or not and told me that songs could be stories as well as just music. I watched as he cleaned the vinyl with a red sponge and plucked stray hairs of the stylus in between tracks. I had already learnt that records should not be touched in the black groovy bits and the correct way to stop the music was not to clumsily drag the needle across the turntable. To a 5 year old child, being allowed in a room with such treasured possessions is important and not easily forgotten Culprit Number 2- My Mum: My mum�s attitude to music was always slightly different. Whilst my dad reinforced the fabric of the house, piling shelves high with vinyl, CDs and cassettes my mum collected very few. And of those she did have there would always be the one chosen tape that would be played repeatedly for weeks on end and she, in steam filled kitchen, sang to it. Strangely enough she never did seem to learn the words, but the obsession was catching and soon my sister and I would find ourselves randomly humming lines. These two people are responsible for my obsessive attitude; they laugh at me now and blame each other for the misguided child they brought up. And though they might not realise it, I am proud to have been taught by them. How else would I have ended up as part of a "peculiarly deranged fanbase"? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Tue Jun 5 21:32:33 2001 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:32:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: mathemetics Message-ID: Did anyone but me think Isobel sang "Pi at the sunrise that is where we live" instead of just "Beyond the sunrise that is where we live", I did, until today when I checked it out, rather suprised. That for sure would be an interesting calculation. I got this record just with pop heart Jim O'Rourke with two other musicians, Weasel Walters (drums) and Fred Lonberg-Holm (violin). They pay tribute to the Japanese priest of noise Masayuki Takayanagi. For the ear and eye, this is just uncontrolled noise, but if you use a calculator, you can actually see it rocks uncontrolled, yet on the dot. Do you call it a violin or a violin? I was going to vote for my Sinister list crush, of course the ever so brilliant Laura Llew, but I thought, what is the meaning of voting for the popular girl if everyone else does? No calculation. Who's the drummer on the wall on the cover of the new single? something that rhymes with buy and evol backwards, Johan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 01:53:31 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:53:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You can always get a divorce but a tattoo is forever Message-ID: I was quietly working at the bookshop when a girl came up to me and began to randomly tell me about a castle which is completely made of bones. She said she had thought of me when she had read about and had figured I would really like it. (http://www.kostnice.cz/ If I ever get married, this is where I want to honeymoon. Oh the romance!) For some reason, her saying that reminded me of the now immortal sillustrated words of Miss Archel when she spoke, "Tomorrow I go to get my tattoo. People keep saying, "Oooh what are you going to get - an ickle butterfly?" Evidently when people think "Rachel Foreplay," they see poetic butterflies. When people think "Laura Llew," they see chandeliers made out of skulls. Whatever I'm doing, I'm doing it RIGHT baby! Don't worry - you have my permission to completely ignore my inane babble. I have spent ten hours today cramped up in my mother's car driving while slowly eating a loaf of bread which I bought at a Polish bakery in Chicago (I started out thinking it was Sour Dough but by the time I got to Kentucky it started tasting like Garlic bread so who knows.) I haven't actually talked with anyone today, unless cops count which they usually don't. (I don't know why. Must have something to do with just the third grade education.) When I arrived home, I learned my neighbor's water pipes have broken and so he will now be showering over here for the next month while they're being fixed. I guess that shouldn't unnerve me but it does. I suppose I shall be fine with it as long as he uses a different bathroom as me. Otherwise the thought of being naked in the same place as some strange male will just be too much like college again. Speaking of being naked, it has been another trip and I didn't meet any Sinisterines or go to any picnics. I hope everyone in Chicago takes this personally since I most definitely meant it as a slight. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I got your e-mail too late and was incredibly busy with work. Heck - I didn't even wear a badge upside down (though I did wear one on my bag that said "Make Love Not War" right beside one that said "Nihilist Girl." I think if I'm going to make a statement it might as well be one of confusion). I take it that no one else was at the Book Convention there? If so, I'm usually easy to spot there since I'm wheeling my handicapped father around like a mad demon as I take the turns on one wheel. I'm always a helpful daughter and I think it help builds my dad's faith as his prayers challenges Job's in humility and fervency. Once in a while, I will turn my head and he'll surreptitiously sneak away only for me to frantically search for him only to find him an hour later greedily popping chocolate huckleberries in his mouth having completely forgotten about his deranged daughter. However, this year I was released from my usual restraints of a leash and shoulder harness. Oh the joy! It was most fun since large amounts of books always attract large amounts of phreaks. (Hence, the reason I was there.) The people watching was superior indeed. I feel it my duty to all warn you of Foxy Fields (formerly known as Paul Field) who I am now giving Southern lessons to. I just don't want you English girls to be caught off guard when all of a sudden you realize what a completely knee weakening, heart melting and debonair man you have in your midst. Of course, my pupil has not yet progressed to that point yet (sorry Foxy). We're just on the primer lessons really - the phrases one should always know when learning a new language. "Hello", "How are you?", "Your eyes are a beautiful cornflower blue that speaks of Sunday picnics in simpler times.", "Are you paying for this?", etc. On a complete unrelated tangent, I've decided that states whose speed limit is 55 on intestates should just have booth at the state line where I can pick up my traffic ticket. I'm going to go ahead and speed like a demon and I hate to be interrupted while doing it. Plus, the police officers always feel it necessary to point out my expired inspection sticker to which I respond, "If you think that's bad the car hasn't been registered for over 9 months. Ha Ha H..Ahem." Don't worry - Laura Llew almost never gets tickets. Then again, I'm sure I'm not the only one to have a quick tarty reply to the question of, "Miss, do you realize how fast you were going?" Heh. I can always pull 'it off as long as I don't have friends in the car like last fall Lucyfer: (to a cop who has just pulled me over for speeding) Will you write us a poem? Laura: If you have trouble finding a word that rhymes with "ticket", may I suggest where to stick it? *****Now it's time for the important question.***** Will 1400 people want to read this? I mentioned: "where to stick it" "being naked", & "Paul Field." If not then for the love please tell me, WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT OF A GIRL?!?!?! Personally, I want a massage, Laura 'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' PS Arik, when I drove through Louisville I thought of you. Well, you and Cookins (sp?). Mmmm yummy PPS - Big happy hugs to Mr. William M. Harris who sent me a new mixtape for the contest which I just got today. He also included BRIBERY. Yay! PPPS- I'm currently listening to Primitive Painter's mix cd. The contest for best mix tapes and cds is still on but OH you kiddies best be wary. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 09:40:32 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:40:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Vote for Us! Message-ID: And now, for our UK readers, a Party Election Broadcast on behalf of the Sinister Party. Which party is the only one you can trust to run the country the way you want it to be run? That's right, the Sinister Party! Vote for the Sinister Party! We promise to revolutionise education by bringing the concept of "good taste" into music classes. All B+S CDs will receive government subsidies! All teenage boys will receive a free Isobel poster to hang on their wall! Independant music will be supported, and Steps will leave the country! When we're elected, the Meals-On-Wheels service will be replaced by a Cake-On-Wheels service. We will invest in our own custom-built Sinister nursing home to care for list -- sorry, *party* members in their old age! A free packet of custard creams to every voter! We will selflessly persecute online ticket agencies who don't send out tickets until the last minute, with every means at our disposal -- and that *includes* rocket launchers. We believe that Westminster is a terrible place to run the country from, so we're going to move Parliament somewhere else! Apparently, there's a place just outside Rye that's ideal for the job. We're going to bring democracy back to the people. We prefer Kate Bush to George Bush! B+S-deprived areas such as Dingwall, Cleethorpes and the Wirral will receive special help in our manifesto committments. These districts will be flooded with beautiful people and quality music, driving all those awful dance compilations right out of the record shops. We even promise Ned Rehabilitation centres, to carefully wean them off of their Buckfast and cheap jewellery. We will fund our progressive policies by imposing purchase taxes of 485673927% on all NuMetal music. Owners of Eminem records will be given a choice of counselling; or a sign to stick to their foreheads saying "it's a present for my sister, honest". Our policies will lead to a happier nation! To people humming beautiful tunes in the street! We will bring you a land with picnics every weekend and drunken pub-trips every night. Sinister candidates will be standing in such key constituencies as Glasgow Barrowlands, Edinburgh Poshbits, Preston North End, Birmingham Accent and Grimsby Fish Dock Number Three. There's no excuse not to vote for them! If you're a first-time voter, all our candidates have been ordered to do *whatever* it takes to get you to vote for them. After election, our members will be firm and upstanding on all the important issues of the day! Vote Sinister! You know it's the only choice that makes sense in this place! That was a Party Election Broadcast on behalf of the Sinister Party. It will be repeated at 11.30 on Channel 5, with added nudity and signing for the deaf. We apologise to all those non-British people who have no idea what all this is about, not to mention List Mummy who probably wants to get her whip out at me for sending such nonsense to people. And now, the shipping forecast... -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 12:15:50 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:15:50 +0200 Subject: Sinister: parents music cinema and virgin suicides Message-ID: just to bore you to *death* first of all I didn't mean to sound obnoxious -is it the right word? my english here isn't so good... in italian it's "suupponente", if anyone knows it- about AIR... I was just saying how I felt about the three things, since they all touched me a lot, having felt for different reasons that way too during my adolescence and later on. "it's obvious, doctor, you've never been a 13 year old girl" *sorry jessica* loved the email about how your personal childhood history influences your musical taste. it does indeed, although I went through a phase where I had to experiment e lot. probably I am still doing it now... CINEMA has anyone read intimacy by hanif kureishi? if you have or if you haven't go to watch the movie. it's touching, intense, and hurts if you have experienced a compicated lovestory -who hasn't anyway as soon as I walkeed out from the cinema -alone and really blue- turning on my mobile phone I received a message I really shouldn't have received in that moment went home and wanted to eat 8000 kilos of choccolate icecream not having any, I listened to b&s instead thank you all for being there C. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Jun 6 13:18:34 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:18:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Please come to the diary room Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775509@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Firstly, I would like to thank the Right Honourable Will Salt for providing the second best entertainment of the UK General Election campaign (shortly behind John Prescott punching a member of the public in the face). If we get into power, I'm going to stand for Foreign Secretary, because Robin Cook spends all his time since he got the job shagging random women. Ally Cook 96 can be Sports Minister, David Moore (Chelmsford UK) could run the Ministry of Agriculture, and Mark Casserole can take over from Peter Mandelson. Would the new Prime Minister live at 10 Roddington Place? If the politicians want a great publicity stunt to fight voter apathy, they should follow the example of Nepal's leaders. I went to see the Pearl Harbour film last night. And it's exactly the kind of patronising, patriotic, Stars-and-Stripes-waving tosh that makes 95% of the world's population detest America. Sample quote: "These events would change America forever, and eventually the world". I'm sure not all Americans believe that the USA is the only place in the world that matters (after all, anyone who did believe that wouldn't be on a mailing list about a Scottish band), but when all we see is abominations like that film, and a president who's only left the country twice, we have to wonder... I presume the new photo which has appeared on the B&S band webpage (featuring Stevie snogging Ruth Madoc) is from the new single, but it's not the same as the front cover picture on the Jeepster site. I'm confused. And thick. Llaura Llew spoke to us about being naked. I hope the body parts gallery is still up and running. This really did take me 15 minutes. My brain just works very slowly, that's all. Big Stu Come back Genevieve, your public needs you... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sav_one at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 14:36:32 2001 From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Win a donkey Message-ID: <20010606133632.44611.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone I haven't posted for ages and ages and I imagine after reading this garbled nonsense you will hope I retreat into the background for ever. I was thinking about entering the Win a Donkey competition in last weeks NME, but then I got scared that I might win and have to spend all of my non working hours at The Sidmouth Donkey Sanctuary talking to Dinky, so I didn't bother. I've sent them some money though so they can make sure that the Donkeys are OK for stuff. I got my tickets today for the Royal Albert Hall gig, which made me feel very excited, but then very sad. I was supposed to be going with my girlfriend, but now she isn't my girlfriend any more so I'll have to find someone else to go with. I hate splitting up with girls because I always seem to stay heartbroken for such a long time rather than just be able to get on with things and find some other mad fool to go out with. Anyway this is depressing me so I'll stop. I'm working on a pitch at the moment to win some new business, which means that I'm working ridiculously long hours. I've started to have this really quite cool recurring dream about being on a French game show. The weird thing about it is in real life I've forgotten all my French but I'm pretty fluent in the dream when I'm answering questions. Ace eh? Tonight I'm off horse racing to do some research, I shall be interested to see what effect this has on my head. Cheerio then __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 15:28:43 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:28:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PennsylvanI.A. Message-ID: <20010606143459.WPLK285.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.88.2]> There are now 2 B&S's in my life. Belle and Sebastian *and* Badmarsh and Shri. Will I be able to take the confusion? I think so, being as I don't really like badmarsh & shri that much and no-one except on this list calls Belle and Sebastian B&S and no-one at all that i know calls the other one B&S. there would have bean a normal paragraph here but i reckoned that the Sinister 1400 would prefer loaves and fishes. Which reminds me, there is something that has been bothering me lately, in the miracle I mentioned just before, did they eat the fishes raw? If not, how did they cook them? Could someone who knows something about the bible explain this? Or is it an allegory or parable, i never did listen in R.E. My present school doesn't go in for R.E. so I'm happy being as I disagree on principle with organised religion and find being taught about duller than, well any hip-hop song (if that word can applied) you care to mention which with me is really saying something. We did 'Oranges are not the only fruit' in English and I have some coursework to write about it. Kirstin, can you write a 600-700 word essay which 'Parrallels the story using the feelings of repression and desire for personal freedom in the style of the original'? It would help as it was due in for the end of the last christmas holidays (Asking people to do your work for you isn't against sinister rules is it?). I want to marry Badly Drawn Boy depite both of us being male and me never being able to remember his real name. Any musical genius of his standard deserves marriage(or is that a curse?). Have finally caught up with my Sinister mail, it is nice to feel all informed an co-ordinated. Two more quick points: -I got my new desktop from 'Robster's' website which is very good. It's the first one on the 'photos' page. -I'm afraid I cannot supprt the sinister party as I have my own party which polled 12 votes in the mock election at school which is 4 more than the conservatives. Pretty good going for a party that only put up 12 posters and which went through 3 or so names and generally complete crap. The final name was 'the anti-party non-party' because we couldn't get our act together. Instead of voting, people who wanted us had to spoil their ballot papers. Do so tomorrow, I can't because I'm only 15 and can't vote (yet). Maybe the disenfranchised such as myself will take over the country, you never know. Joe Vester, I'm pretending to listen, Signing off. This took me 35 mins so there! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Milla.Gregor at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 16:13:03 2001 From: Milla.Gregor at xxx.com (Milla.Gregor at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:13:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Madam and the Ant Message-ID: <7D9111AE89FAD411801A0002A55C31D398ACC0@apollo.bmpddb.com> Just thought I'd ask- is any (London) one going to the gig tonight at the Dublin Castle tonight? A friend's band 'Parachute' is playing- but I notice that one of the acts is 'Ant' who acc. to Time Out is 'Hefner drummer Ant in his Nick Drake disguise'. I'm intrigued. If anyone else is, let me know and we can arrange to wave at each other serruptitiously, or summat. Hope you're all well, Sinisterbites. Milla +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsocks at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 19:31:14 2001 From: sarahsocks at xxx.com (sarahsocks at xxx.com) Date: 6 Jun 2001 19:31:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Frogs, foxes, hedgehogs and soundtracks to life Message-ID: <20010606183114.11305.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From zorba at xxx.uk Wed Jun 6 20:53:44 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:53:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester happenings - who said there was no such thing as a free lunch? Message-ID: <200106061953.f56JriH16593@mail.redbricks.org.uk> i don't know if anyone on this list might be interested in this but anyway . . . . there will be a day of action, offering alternatives to voting happening in manchester tomorrow (thursday). there will be free food given away outside some of our favourite multinationals, street theatre ranging from mock fights between people dressed up as tony hague & william blair :-P and a butoh walk (a strange japanese form of movement, where you are dressed all in white & move VERY VERY slowly, it sprang up after the hiroshima bombs, and was a response to how numb people felt - somewhat how i feel about the choice of politicians), a critical mass (where lots & lots of people (hopefully!) cycle along main roads as a protest against the traffic) leading to a state funeral - a piece of street theatre mourning the passing of democracy. finally a huge noise demo outside a currently secret location. so if you are around manchester & are free, come down! it will be a fun & exciting day! for more info see: www.x21.org/uninvited if you wear something sinister i'll find you & say hello! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 20:55:42 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:55:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Memories Filled with Music Message-ID: Sunsat said, about her dad: >I watched as he cleaned the vinyl with a red sponge and plucked stray >hairs >of the stylus in between tracks. This made me go all melty inside, as I remember exactly the same thing from my childhood. My Dad would play his records, and if I was really good and promised to be careful, he would let me sweep the brush over the vinyl as he held it. This may sound sappy and useless (in which case, I apologise) but my dad and I didn't get on particularly well until recently. No major fights, but just the lack of comprehension and respect that exists between a twenty two year old girl and her old dad. Within the past year, though, as I've grown up and removed my teenage blinkers (no slight on teenagers at all, just that I was stroppy and self absorbed when I was one), I can really begin to understand why my mum married him and didn't leave as soon as he became a pedantic, work obsessed, moody and slightly autistic old man. I think my attitude towards music has been shaped not only by my folks but by the autistic traits than seem present in my family. The kind of obsessions I develop about things are the same kind of obsessions that my Asperger's brother has (Asperger's is a form of autism). My brother, bless him, has dug out all my old copies of Select, NME and Melody Maker from the attic and memorised them. So I can ask him "Which copies have articles about Belle and Sebastian?" and he says "I'm not sure of the month, but it was 1998 and the cover was orange, with a woman on it". And he wonders off to his room and returns two minutes later with the December 1998 copy, the cover showing Alanis Morrissey on an orange background. The other day my parents sorted out their will, which I suppose is slightly morbid. They did tell me the songs they'd chosen for their funeral though: "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who, "Yes" by McAlmont and Butler and "Another Brick in the Wall" (my dad's a teacher). My mum unnerved and probably frightened her solicitor by saying (about her own funeral) "It's going to be brilliant. I can't wait!" Must insert some content. Erm.... I'm going to see Belle and Sebastian soon. It's going to be grand. ANd I'm looking forward to the new single/EP type thingy. Love Madeleine xxx PS A message for Miss Marybeth: expect some post soon. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 22:09:40 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:09:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a beautiful woman insists they play "you're the best thing that ever happened.." Message-ID: 15 minutes...begin...NOW hello everyone! I feel very good today. That has been a recent trend in my life, and I quite enjoy it. I leave for London in three days! I am going to have several days free in London (I think), so if anyone has any suggestions on how to occupy my time there, I'm all ears. What really spawned this email was the talk from Ms. Madeline about songs at a funeral. First off, I'd like to say that her parents sound very cool. My father would probably want some Tangerine Dream and maybe R.Kelly's "there ain't nothin wrong with a little bump 'n grind". I think it was three years ago now, a guy in my class died in a car accident. Everyone went to his funeral, even people that didn't know him, which I didn't care for, but that's beside the point. Anyway, they played Aerosmith's "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing" at the funeral, and it made me worried that they would play a piece of sentimental garbage like that at my funeral. So, I decided to begin making a mix tape of songs I wanted played at my funeral. That list changed again and again, until I eventually scrapped everything and decided not to worry about it. I've decided to start it again, and revise it every 6 months or so, just in case I die. I am 18 now, so I'm running that homestretch to the great beyond. Anyway, what do all of you sinister-folk want played at your funerals? Of course, being from the Southern United States, I could always go for a dixeland jazz funeral. That reminds me, do you have to be a UK citizen to be a part of the sinister party? If so, then I'll stick to the good ol' dixiecrats and honor the memory of the late, great George Wallace. segregation....YEE HAA! My 15 minutes is up, goodbye. -Matt P.S.: I do not actually believe in the dixiecrats, segregation, or George Wallace. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Wed Jun 6 22:37:55 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:37:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: voting alternatives In-Reply-To: <3B1E9F72.57C7A7D9@erols.com> Message-ID: <200106062137.f56LbtH17120@mail.redbricks.org.uk> kheydt said: > As an American let me offer you a little advice. Protesting politicians is > essential, but voting for one of them is necessary. I offer you America's > current "Leader" as exhibit A as to the importance of voting. No matter how > you disagree with your candidates one of them is sure to be worse than the > other. Four years (is it four for you?) of disappointment and false promises > is better than four years moving your country backwards. > > Then of course you could really be screwed and end up with the loser in office > anyway (Gore 49%, Bush 47%) Power, it seems, is not in the people, but in the > pockets. > > kirk > > I'm new to the list so I can't post this. If you don't totally disagree, would > you post it for me? > i don't agree with what this guy has said, although i can understand why he has said it, but i do agree with him being able to post it. i'm sorry if that gets me in trouble - i know we are supposed to avoid politics on this list - i don't agree with that either, but that's what i agreed to when i joined the list.) i'm going to respond privately to him, cause i'm not sure that everyone else is that interested in politics (shame on you! :-P ) antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fixxxer16 at xxx.com Wed Jun 6 23:00:08 2001 From: fixxxer16 at xxx.com (eu eu) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:00:08 Subject: Sinister: Spahke and Mary Message-ID: Not serious, peeps.... ?Spike and Mary? When I was alone Spike and Mary came along and helped me up They said I should search for my light inside so I got my shit, simply left my wife and wandered the streets in pursue of true happiness which, OK, I'm yet to find I saw hip queers walking around with rich johns and I saw hip whores sucking the johns of rich johns on their way to see their immediate johns on Wall Street to suck on THEIR ding dongs. I also saw Waldo as he painted the walls white with Harry jerking off in the gready moonlight And there she was, Georgie boy getting pouring sumetin' red on the sidewalk. Yeah, the sidewalks I used to sit on the sidewalks and look around for hardbodies while whining about being overcooked by the sun My bald surface constantly constipated by the harsh climate which made my angry, so I turned on my insticts and in the ground I laid I used the little I had left to consult Mary and Spike again. Mary told me my head was fucked up and Spike said my eyes weren't open no, not nearly enough conflictant opinions which drove me to the edge as I stood on the bridge and grasped for less less than enough to make me turn back and as my kid saw me there and cursed my sorry guts I realized what fucking little I had and it only made me feel worse I then decided to die, but as Lou sang he made me realize that I too could achieve Kingdom Come So I went to Spike, alone and once there I could glance see happiness waiting as he made his big entrance. "It will be here anytime now... Uhmmm... Give or take a few minutes." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From garymaher at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 00:42:06 2001 From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:42:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Notlob Message-ID: <20010606.194304.-388133.2.garymaher@juno.com> I am amused. We don't stand a chance . . . g ---------- RS Weekly ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, June 6, 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to your RS Weekly Newsletter! RS Weekly is a free service from RollingStone.com designed to keep you up to date with all the latest music news and happenings at RS.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "We're the younger generation, we grew up fast, all the others did drugs, they're taking it out on us" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Play lyric trivia. Congrats to those who knew last week's line - "When I woke up Mom and Dad are rolling on the couch, rolling numbers, rock and rolling, got my Kiss records out" came from Cheap Trick's "Surrender." http://tm0.com/RSWeekly/sbct.cgi?s=54680438&i=350867&d=1446908 Know where the lyric at the top of this email comes from? Shoot an email to Chris at cchatman at emusic.com. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MIWinship at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 03:10:13 2001 From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:10:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Funeral Games Message-ID: The mourners at my funeral will hear Joy Division, "Low", Blue Jam and the Eraserhead soundtrack as they weep and weep at my passing. Giant ice effigies of me, recreating classic poses, will serve to remind them of their loss. 'The Seventh Seal' will be projected onto the church wall and strange hooded dwarves will serve nibbles at the three day wake.... Frogs using my computer are the least of my worries now that SnakeRat (next door's hairless cat - you know the ones) has taken to exploring our house. It looks like MewTwo and makes us scream like girls when we find it. Whilst leafing through a copy of Gentleman's Quarterly at work, chanced upon an article charting the history of Vodka & Red Bull (10 years old). Seems it began as a Sloaney drink for apres-skiers and Hugh Grant. How'd it get so popular with Sinister types, then? Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_s_leak at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 10:39:46 2001 From: chris_s_leak at xxx.com (Chris Leak) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:39:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Preston Gig Message-ID: Mornin Just to let you know, the Warhouse nightclub in Preston is hosting a B&S themed night after the Guild Hall gig. For more details: http://www.warehousenightclub.co.uk (There's even a dodgy picture of me somwhere on there!). Cheers Leaky _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_milton at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 13:13:40 2001 From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ok.. wo rather nice guys need yer help... =0) Message-ID: <20010607121340.14163.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi guys.. Firstly and most importantly... does ANYONE have a spare ticket for the gig at the barrowlands on the 16th for my best mate andy..? if anyone has a ticket could you email him @ "Andy Bonar" he'll buy you sweeties... =0) (doesn't that smilie look like henry's cat) Secondly... have any of you heard lanarkshire's CLAN FM? Shit ain't it? well, myself and a couple of friends have come up with the idea of petitioning the bosses to ask them to PLEASE give the station an alternative music show. Lanarkshire. The breeding ground for the best of Scottish alternative music, and the regional radio station plays Phil Collins every hour. so if everyone signs our petition, we will at least have a document to say, "hey, folk want this. You can't ignore the fact you'll get more listeners" so.. please go along here and put yer name on... http://www.petitiononline.com/troika/petition.html (one wee thing though, if you sign it, can you view it to make sure your signature is on it.. its been playing silly buggers with me and not adding some signatures. Thanks) Anyway... thanks for reading and thanks in advance for signing... Neil.x. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton at yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 17:35:01 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: And Now I Know How Joan Ruddock Felt Message-ID: <20010607163501.5902.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> France 2-1 Brazil. "It's like 1986 - but better". Blimey. So much for Voter Apathy. I went a long way for my local MP. The extra mile, no less. It cost me, in essential money on our publac servacez, I mean, public services. A lot of people have been saying things like 'We don't want another Labour landslide'. I have no belief that we'll get another Labour landslide, but from my POV the kind of people who *really* don't want another Labour landslide are Tories. That's a good enough reason for me to want one. Did I ever tell you about the time I walked across Norwich for an hour to vote in a *local* election? No? You want to hear about it? Oh. Spotted the other night in London's fashionable Old Street: family Moore from London's classy Blackheath; Cabbage from London's earthy Patch; the Foxgloves. Other people said things, but I haven't had time to read them lately. Were they good? Oh. Vote late, vote occasionally. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 19:55:09 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: political content: dispose of as you see fit Message-ID: general election time again then (sorry about political content, hit delete now if you have no interest in the subject) being the tender age of 21, i'll be voting in my first general election this evening, i missed the last one by a matter of months, but who to vote for? the choice in my constituency is weak to say the least. living in a virtually assured labour seat (south shields has been labour since we had our first MP) i'd normally vote labour as they've done a relatively good job here bit as our MP of 21 years, dr david clark, has stepped down this year to be replaced by one david miliband, tony blair's chief policy advisor, a man who had never set foot in south shields until this election, he's obviously been placed here by tony coz he wants mr miliband to keep his place in his government. what does he care about his constituents? he'll be spending all his time in london. conservatives dont even get a look in, i grew up under the thatcherite r�gime and i dont want to go back to that. there are two independents standing; the UK Independence Party who have one policy, the EU and keeping the pound which i dont believe in because a) we're already *in* europe and have been for 30 years, and b) who cares what currency we spend, we already had a major upheaval of the pound in 1971 and we got used to it, why is it important that the coins we spend have the � symbol on them or not, they'll still have the queen's head on the reverse (although that's an entirely different argument); the other independent candidate is simply in favour of better hostitals, a worthy cause but not really a broad enough view in my opinion. so i guess i'll be voting liberal democrat. not because i believe in them (although their policy for students is better than the big two parties), but because i believe that because i have the right to vote then i should use it, and spoiling my ballot paper when i've nothing to protest about is pointless. voter apathy really gets to me but i won't go into that here, i've used up too much of your valuable time already. is it really fair voting for one man over another just because he's the best of a bad bunch? ok so some content is needed i see. is there going to be a picnic on the beach at scarboria before the gig and if so, where and when? will that do? i'll go to vote now, i might just close my eyes and stick my pen on the paper but what would that achieve, i dont agree with the national lottery so why should i vote that way? bugger i hate politics. pez* ps; to the other pez on the list, i got the impression that you are american, (are you?), if so i'll sign off as UK pez* and you can be US pez*, ok?, it'll be like the charlatans and suede becoming the UK charlatans and the london suede when they tour in america, or not. www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trishdelish at xxx.com Thu Jun 7 21:59:48 2001 From: trishdelish at xxx.com (Trish Brazil) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:59:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: lurching lurker Message-ID: hi there sallying forth from the depths of the lurkers corner today, motivated by a new album i bought today that i think sinisterines far and wide would surely love....its an irish guy - don't hold it againt him - and his name is david kitt. he's not a friend of mine, though i certainly wouldn't mind, and the album is called the big romance. he released a mini-ep on rough trade last year i think, havent actually heard that one, though some of the songs from it are on the album. having finished my finals yesterday, i allowed myself a celebratory splurge today by buying afore-mentioned album, a brand new shiny book and and packet of yummy biccies (foxes classics, since you ask) these are treats i havent allowed myself to indulge in for many moons, so as i settled back on my bed this afternoon, relishing the wonderful feeling of total freedom, i pressed play and fell in love. i'm no music reviewer so coming up with the over-verbalised wafflings of your average nme hack just isnt my style, they're just incredibly simple, beautifully crafted songs. he doesnt have the strongest voice in the world, but that just doesnt matter, the songs are just amazing. buy buy buy, you wont regret it. (although if you do, please dont be cross - no liability accepted) so, sinister kids, some advice needed - what exactly is it that you do when you've finished up four years in college realising that you've spent all that time doing something you really couldnt give a toss about? i've been drawing up a list of all the wonderful things i would love to do, including learning the guitar, joining a band and having my as yet undiscovered brilliance applauded by the world. alternatively, packing it all in and heading off to dunfermline for saturday wouldnt be so bad either. (mind you, smart money is on me getting a job and cowering in front of nasty bank manager) maybe i should opt for the life of ken chu and simply adopt a new name and reinvent myself - touring the country, living from one vodka and red bull to the next - much to be said for it i'm sure! ok, that's my bit for this evening - i shall pack my bags and reclaim my rightful place among the lurkers of the list. and may i just be the first to say to all you lucky devils going to see b&s in the next 2 weeks - BOOHISS!! (*so*jealous!) enjoy yourselves on our behalf! trish _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 03:31:06 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:31:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: shiny happy picnics holding hands Message-ID: <90.15847b1a.285192ea@aol.com> so what about the NY picnic. whats going on?? this saturday? the 9th? central park. i'm gonna be in the park that day, so i'm gonna stop by for a while if its still on. tell me whats happening -sophie (this took more than 15 minutes. i've been staring at things for a while. i'm going to sleep now.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Thu Jun 7 03:36:02 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:36:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: shiny happy picnics holding hands References: <90.15847b1a.285192ea@aol.com> Message-ID: <000501c0eefa$986a1e60$8624a5d8@nyu.edu> > so what about the NY picnic. whats going on?? > this saturday? the 9th? central park. i'm gonna be in the park that day, so > i'm gonna stop by for a while if its still on. > tell me whats happening > -sophie Er, no! It's the 16th!! So if you're in the park this Saturday you can probably have a picnic by yourself, which would be fun too. But if you want to meet sinister people (including the illustrious David Barker, who has one of those funny English accents), be there the 16th. Pretty soon I'm going to draw a little map of where exactly the picnic spot is (east side of the Great Lawn, behind the Met, by the Obelisk sort of, it's always good to have a giant phallic symbol in the background of your picnics), but uh, I haven't gotten around to it yet. If you're planning on coming to the picnic and fear getting lost, please email me and I will give you my number so you can ring my celly, yo. I want to meet you. Let's be friends. Also, the picnic is the day after Matt Hintz's birthday! Whee! Sophie, if you have nothing else to do Saturday night, go see Kiki & Herb at Fez! If you're lucky, Kiki'll sing you a rousing version of Fox in the Snow. I just typed "fox in the snog" How Freudian! I'm blushing. Some important things are happening in the US and the UK today. I hear that you're "electing" new "people" to run your "country" over there. Here, we're watching Jimmy Fallon and Kirsten Dunst host the MTV Movie Awards. So cute. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Doyster at xxx.nz Fri Jun 8 06:39:25 2001 From: Doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark.) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:39:25 +1200 Subject: Sinister: We're all just a fixin to DIE!!! Message-ID: The visitors at my funeral will hear a little ditty called "funeral home" by Daniel Johnston, the lyrics of which are.... "Funeral Home, Funeral Home, I'm going to the Funeral Home, Got me a coffin, Shiny and black, Yeah, I'm going to the Funeral and I'm never coming back" ... And it is actually recorded at someone's funeral. In the end he asks people to sing along and you can here this couple in the foreground complaining at how distasteful it is, BRILLIANT. But then now that I think of it maybe "Fixing a hole" would be the guff.(for Burials only), Anyway, it's starting to get friggin cold down here at the bottom of the Globe and there ain't a single Belle and Sebastian Gig to keep us warm (and you can be sure the single will take a few extra weeks to make it to the shops here). There has been cause for celebration in these parts though as the "Rad" (very short films that are played in the ad breaks on telly here in New Zealand) is officially finished, dubbed to Beta Tape and delivered to *The Network*. It is called "Miss Western Suburbs" and it is a tale, told with plastic toys, of a girl that won a beauty pageant, and a boy who won a Mitsubishi Lancer in a TV show called "Beach Shack Bingo" ,both in 1985. And their subsequent, and rapid descent from these dizzying heights to the point were we find them, as overweight lushes eating TV dinners in front of a TV that is inviting applications for "Brand New Space Bingo". It is not on the net yet but it will be eventually at (though there is a selection of past efforts) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bipedalboy at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 07:41:17 2001 From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:41:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: ( Message-ID: <25.1671b847.2851cd8d@aol.com> allo, pretty bummed out to see there will be a nyc picnic without me:( im stuck in san francisco working all summer. granted being in SF is nice and all but i wish i had some peeps to keep my mind off of how alone i am here. my coworkers are older, married and dont drink :( sorry to gripe, just had to say that... with everything else, cant wait for the B&S EP, i need a new music fix fast... listening to leonard cohen and nick drake is pretty sad and i need some cheering up, any suggestions? well, i should'nt litter the list with this nonsense, so i'll end it here... bouna notte e sogni d'oro monkeyboysidhe "i was surprised i was i happy for a day..." b&s "after all my years of reading conversation i stand without a word to say" db +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mariusa at xxx.NO Fri Jun 8 09:25:10 2001 From: Mariusa at xxx.NO (Marius Andreassen) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:25:10 +0200 Subject: Sinister: please help.. Message-ID: i have not made a sound on the list until now. I have been a listee for over a year but NEWER posted. Why i post now? Well i am soon finished at the school where i have internet access.That means i will no longer get sinister mails :( The sinister list has helped me through many boring lessons with visual basic, windows servers, html codes a.s.o What i have discovered this last months of my course is that this is totally wrong for me. I do not want to use the rest of my life learning about new upgrades for stupid microsoft programs every time they are released (twice a month!)That would be like going to bore-school for another 30-40 years. Anyway, i go home from school and feel sorry for my self, listen to b&s (if your feeling..)But i have realised that i dont have a clue on what else to do... What should i become when i grow up? (i am nineteen now, so i shoul be a grownup right about ....NOW!) It would be fantastic to be a chef(or cook wich i also think those perverted englishmen would call it : ) But in norway the school system isnt actually very fond of nineteenn year olds not knowing what to do with their lifes. I have spent my years in scool and wont get any more easily. So i ask you fellow listees : Do you have a great tip for something i should spend my working "career" on? Please help. replies needed. marius Bergen Norway ps: anybody on the list who has attended stanborough school? I have. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Joid7 at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 09:30:20 2001 From: Joid7 at xxx.com (Joid7 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:30:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <4f.cc7661c.2851e71c@aol.com> i wade through these postings longing for the words "b&s lover, australia" i find myself alone and lost.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From homero at xxx.pt Fri Jun 8 09:59:05 2001 From: homero at xxx.pt (pedro homero) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:59:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: please help.. References: Message-ID: <001b01c0eff9$458197f0$03646464@labcom.ubi.pt> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marius Andreassen" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: Sinister: please help.. > i have not made a sound on the list until now. I have been a listee for over > a year but NEWER posted. Dear Marius - i too, never posted @ sinister, and i'm a fellow sinisterette (nice, uhn?) for about a year and a half now. Don't know why i haven't posted, probably because i never felt i had anything of interest to say.... Still, my advice (right...) to you, speaking from the high and might of my 25 Years of Age, would be - escape now, and be free forever. If you haven't got the oportunity to study cooking in norway now, due to those educational restrictions, get the h*ll out of there and try to study abroad. It's cool to feel miserable, not really to BE miserable per se. To the rest of the lot... well, thank you for the kind/entertaining/mild/brave/obnoxious/strange/mellow posts. They've helped me more than you would know (or care, but who cares?). I don't read them all, though, it's too much for a workaholic webdesigner. Whattayouknow, i ended up talking about m'self. kisses and hugs for all, pedro see some of you in benicassim, pity we won't recognise each others. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 10:02:40 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:02:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Torbay, Cheadle, Guildford, Kingston and Surbiton :-) Message-ID: Had a big discussion last night about whether voting in elections should be obligatory like it is in 'Stralia. The two woolly liberals in the room (me and Miss V) were the ones in favour; my Tory-voting best friend and his rural conservative (that's the politest way I can think of putting it) girlfriend thought it was a denial of rights. Is it peculiar that the right-wingers are advocating freedom of choice and I'm not? Obviously, in any compulsory vote there'd have to be a "none of the above" section. My real thinking behind it is my abhorrence of apathy (which comes from being a deeply undisciplined and apathetic person who would flagellate himself for it if he could be arsed). But then maybe that's my problem. I find it hard to post to sinister these days. Perhaps I shot my wad in the early days, when I thought people were interested in what I was saying, and got terribly upset about the silliest of things which spurred me on to scribble more and more rubbish It doesn't really flow any more. Strange. But apart from the election, something else happened yesterday that's got me thinking (which I don't do nearly enough of these days). My grandfather died. So far, other than an awareness of a deeply-hidden knot of something inside me, I've barely reacted at all. I've been very lucky really; he's the closest person to me to have died so far, and the whole "how to feel" thing is making me wonder whether I'm doing it right. Is there a right way? I suppose not. It wasn't a shock, and there are many aspects of the situation which are, for us and for him, a blessed relief. I'm not quite sure whether that's a good thing, but perhaps it's a comfort. I'm also terrified of seeing my grandmother for the first time since it happened. I feel quite guilty about that. Ach, not very interesting, is it? ListGoverness Lulou must be tapping her fingers and wondering if I'm ever going to get to the point. Hell, this is sinister, does there have to be one? Perhaps I should say how impressed I am with the sillustrations that seem to be expanding weekly. I hate you talented people :-) I fell off my bike, but it wasn't very Belle and Sebastian. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark_e_hester at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 10:08:02 2001 From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:08:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hours after the election and the crime rate's up already Message-ID: We've had a break-in at work this morning, a window was smashed, a laptop stolen and we're all sitting around waiting for the Scene of Crime Officer to arrive to dust our desks. Will he be taking *our* prints too, I wonder? They've got mine already, heh heh heh.... We've been given the bizarre instruction that we can touch our computers but not our desks, which is why my hands are assuming the pose of Thing from the Addams Family as I type. Tonight I'm going to see the Preston School of Industry here in Oxford. Having missed Mr Malkmus when he was over, I might as well check out Mr Stairs. I *think* I've managed to persuade The Girlfriend that she wants to go. Although whether agreeing to go on the basis of having heard "Brighten the Corners" for the first time on Wednesday amounts to "false pretences" is anyone's guess. The BBC tell us that Ann Widdecombe is popular with the grassroots on the "rubber chicken circuit". But what on earth is the "rubber chicken circuit" when it's at home? I'm sure rubber chickens aren't nearly as exciting as plastic frogs. I doubt very much if they have their own e-mail accounts, or that they can type even (mind you, I'm having difficulty at the moment). The Pinefox wrote: >And Now I Know How Joan Ruddock Felt I don't. But I know how I felt when I first heard Felt. mArK Grandpont, Oxon. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 10:53:31 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:23:31 +0930 Subject: Sinister: we eat kangaroos, you know Message-ID: Joid7 at aol.com said: "i wade through these postings longing for the words "b&s lover, australia" i find myself alone and lost...." Well, I've been lurking for a little while, but this rather winsome post has persuaded me to break cover. I'd not posted, as I had no content, and am unlikely to ever have any, so with any luck you'll hear from me infrequently at best. In fact, I've been turning a bit green at all this discussion of gigs and picnics and hearing the new songs on the radio and so on, as I'm in no danger whatsoever of finding myself at a gig anytime soon, and the new single is still a couple of weeks off here, according to the good people from whom I purchase music. That's what you get for living in the clever country. Take heart, though, there are at least another three of us that I know of. While I'm at it, I'll take this opportunity to say the following: THOMAS PYNCHON I was chuffed to see his name show up in a few posts not all that long ago. 'Gravity's Rainbow' is a bit of a slog, admittedly, but well worth the effort. I think that this is one of those books that is bought far more often than it is read, unfortunately, and probably not the place to start with Pynchon. If it seems a bit dense and impenetrable at first (which it most certainly is), may I humbly recommend kicking off with something a bit slimmer, like 'The Crying of Lot 49'. It makes a perfect appetizer. I'm reading 'V' at the moment, as it happens, which is also thoroughly enjoyable, and a little more approachable. AIR The jury's still out on the new album, as far as I'm concerned. I've warmed to a few of the tracks, but they sound suspiciously like a band getting just slightly worse with each subsequent release. Shame, really. Particularly in the face of the new Daft Punk, which (whilst not strictly my cup of tea) is fairly obviously a sophisticated and genuinely inventive bit of work. BUYING ALBUMS SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU LIKE THE NAME A good idea, clearly. Made me the first kid on my block with the Kings of Convenience record for one. Oh and if you're not listening to both them and the Aislers Set almost constantly at the moment, I'm frankly a little disappointed :) THE LETTER 'S' Why do all good record collections have so many more records under 's' than any other letter? That's my lot for now. I'd like to be able say that I was off to play with words and pictures or do something pretty, or something similarly clever and relevant, but I can't, because I'm off to drink gin and see a band. Stay poppin' fresh, -Stankin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Joid7 at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 11:40:36 2001 From: Joid7 at xxx.com (Joid7 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:40:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: oh and i forgot to say.... Message-ID: <11d.4cea.285205a4@aol.com> not all of us eat kangaroo. some of us are pasty - faced vegetarians :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsocks at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 14:54:03 2001 From: sarahsocks at xxx.com (sarahsocks at xxx.com) Date: 8 Jun 2001 14:54:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ways to waste time while you're panicing about having to much to do Message-ID: <20010608135403.1981.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From woolything at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 19:05:20 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 18:05:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: GLASGOW PICNIC IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS YES IT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING I THINK Message-ID: Hey, look at me, I'm almost organised. No, not really. But I have come up with a really brilliant plan for this Glasgow picnic which we're having next weekend, Saturday the 16th of June 2001 for god's sake. OK, so the plan isn't really brilliant, but it is simple. Much like me. What it is is that I think we should all meet at Kelvinbridge Underground station at 2pm on said date, and go from there to as-yet-undecided spot in Kelvingrove Park. We'll probably hang around the station for 20-30 mins to wait for latecomers, but if by any chance you miss us there and can't find us in the park, then you can phone me on 07733356611 and I'll turn into a kind of Scottish Robinson or Alder and come and find you hopefully, or direct you to the correct location. Or I'll send one of my minions off to do it for me. We'll be waiting at the station exit which leads to the car park, rather than up on the bridge itself. IE don't go up the stairs/escalator when you come out the station. If you need any help with directions or have any other questions concerning the picnic or the state of the world in general, please mail me. Sorry I have nothing interesting to say at the moment, I have to rush off to work. Thank you for being patient with me. Looking forward to seeing lots of you in the next week. Bye. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 19:19:46 2001 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:19:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Scottish super band.. Message-ID: don't know if y'all saw this already... from ananova.com Lightbody forms Scot superband Members of Belle & Sebastian, Arab Strap and Mogwai have teamed up to record a 15-track album. They have got together under the leadership of Snow Patrol's Gary Lightbody. The collective, which calls itself Reindeer Section, will release Y'All Get Scared Now a Hear! on August 6 through Bright Star recordings. They intend to make their live debut at T In The Park on July 8. Lightbody told NME.com: "It's all thanks to Lou Barlow in a way. He did three gigs at Nice N' Sleazy in January and everyone was there. I went around drunkenly saying, 'I've started a band called Reindeer Section' - I've no idea where the name came from! - 'And would you like to be in it?'" Apparently, Lightman was so excited by the idea of the combo that he hastily set about getting down to work, wrote 15 songs the following day and got everyone together to record them. Reindeer Section features Mogwai's John Cummings, Arab Strap's Aidan Moffat, Belle & Sebastian's Richard Colburn and Mick Cooke, Colin MacIntyre from Mull Historical Society, Jenny Reeve of Eva, Willie Campbell and Charlie Clarke from Astrid and Snow Patrol's Jonny Quinn, all of whom Lightbody hopes will appear at their T In The Park gig. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Jun 8 22:37:06 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: William? He was really nothing Message-ID: <20010608213706.5131.qmail@web5301.mail.yahoo.com> I didn't spend all those years in the wilderness (literally - I advise on berries nowadays) not to think it fun to see the Conservative party routed, on the historically rare occasions when that happens. I wonder. 'We' 'thought' that '1997' was demographically, electorally, sociologically significant - a marker. A Nicky Marker, even. Then should 'we' not take very seriously what is almost a reiteration of that result? I mean, the virtual confirmation of the electoral landscape of May 1997. Poor turnout? I blame the voters. Congratulations to Dr Taylor. Cazza sent a mail with a wonderful, 'provincial' title, and made me think. It was thoughtful, that mail of his. Laura Llew said: >>> I hope everyone in Chicago takes this personally since I most definitely meant it as a slight, and I thought that was funny. She talked about 'Foxy Fields' too. Hey, Foxy, if you're reading this - mail me. Seriously. I mean, are we going to take sandwiches to Cookie's picnic or not? My editor has started going on about the Penguin Books Internet Caf� Orchestra Pit. Really. She just has this perverse streak. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bluish_brown_glurp at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 00:18:32 2001 From: bluish_brown_glurp at xxx.com (Adrian Rudloff) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Snoochy Boochy Noochies Message-ID: <20010608231832.22257.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com> Dearest You Lot, Welly well well, look who's been given a voice. The nursery was a nice place to start. Very wise to put padding on all the sharp corners (also, you're out of booze). I've been enjoying, and lurking by way of the archives for about 6 months. It's nice to finally participate. I'm a Merican living in L.A.(I'm already going to the L.A. picnic. This is my sinister persona. See if you recognize my doggy style:), but have actually moved all around including, London, Oslo, Cooperstown NY, Key West, San Diego, Darien CT and now Santa Monica CA. I forget who it is that's learning Norsk (Idyl?), I lived there 4 years, but went to an international school that spoke English, so I mostly just remember the swears. The best and most commonly used being (I'm spelling phonetically) Fee Fon. It can be shortened (the delivery is stretched out though) to just Faan (I think that might be the correct spelling). I have no idea what it means, but rest assured it's dirty. There, I think we're all up to speed now. I seem to recall Norwegeans drink quite a bit of Ribena too, only it's called Glug(sp?). They mostly drink it warmed up, and the adults put a lil somthin' somethin' in it. Norway was a wonderful place to live. I miss it. I've been saving up all kinds of things to say and comment on, so forgive the lateness, and longness. 1. Best Joke Ever: Whoever said the bee joke where the punchline is "fuck 'em I hate bees", that's my new favorite joke and the only one I have at the ready if someone asks me if I know any jokes. I was always at a loss in that situation, so thank you. 2. Archel read the Watchman: First time I read it, I turned the last page and flipped it right over and read it again. Did you know Terry Gilliam has had that on his slate to direct foreeeeeeeeever? So long in fact that I don't think it'll ever be made. I don't know if the hold up is over rights or what but it's been over 10 years. For awhile I was going around to every comic book store and cleaning out all their originals. I would put them together and give the complete sets to friends for their birthday. 3. For the guy who gave money to someone on a bus and was chastised for it: I work in an area that's full of homeless people and have to shut off, as I'm asked for money on average 10 times a day. The day I read that I was asked while eating lunch for some change, and gave him a dollar. That was your kindness that crossed the Atlantic.....and now I'd like my dollar back:) One of my favorite memories of living in London was on my first day of work, I went out to catch the bus and all I had to pay was 1, and 2 1/2 P coins. I had no other money. I was flat broke and counting on the few pounds I'd make as a waiter to pay for dinner and my ride to work the next day. I didn't know the bus wouldn't take copper and if I missed this bus I would be late my first, and likely last, day of work. The bus driver would not make an exception, and wanted me off the bus, when someone in line behind me said, "I'll pay for the man". I'll remember it as one of the nicest things a stranger has ever done for me. It's made me go out of my way to assist travelers. So don't discount even the small gestures. 4. ListCrush: I don't think I've ever met so many eTtractive people in one place. I've got the standard JenOwl crush, but I shy from competition and I'm worried she'll start to feel too much pressure from suitors, and post less as a result. JenOwl, you really should turn your adventures with the hard kids into a comic. GloomCookie is a great example of how this might be done. It's an excellent goth comic. There's an Isobel (cruel much? bitch) and a Sebastian (the monster under his bed keeps eating his girlfriends) in it too. OK so here's the deal on my crush, I saved a post a few weeks ago with the intention of replying, but hadn't gotten around to it. Then there was a post from someone recently that I also decided to save and write to because they made me laugh and sounded nice. When I checked my saved mail, I was suprised to see that both posts were written by the same person. Coincidence or crush? I choose crush, as I see no reason to get stingy with them now. I'm not supposed to divulge who it is though am I? It's prolly for the best....for I am hideous:) 5. (): You may be wondering why I use parenthesis even in cases when it seems odd. (It's a little trick I use to make the dear reader [you] feel as though I've taken you into my confidence). Email me privately if you'd like to know what I'm doing to you when I put you in brackets. 6. Books: Someone was asking for suggestions and I've got a couple of good ones. Alain de Botton has some great books on love. Someone's website suggested it as "for the lover on sabbatical" and I agree. It's insightful, analytical, and accessible without being cynical. He's a quirky author who loves using diagrams to illustrate a point. He's swiss, 32, and I believe teaches in London at a University...I mean University:) "The Romantic Movement" is my favorite followed by "On Love". He may be hugely popular in England and I just don't know it, so this could all be old news. In my opinion the man is a genius. I primarily read fantasy/scifi though, so with that in mind, Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series is the greatest adventure my brain has ever been on. 7. BigStu and his movie review: .....try to stay away from crappy movies, K? 8. Goodies: Does anyone have any old Viz comics they aren't using anymore? I'll trade you for something. 9. Cats: I'm a cat whisperer. 10. Randomness: I was watching the NBA finals the other day and I noticed all the basketball players were always pointing at things. Whenever they scored or dunked or did something well, they would point at people. I think I might start doing that. That's more than enough. I'll stop there. Nothing left now but hover, think, and send......perhaps they'll proclaim me their king. Squishings, Glurp PS. Just bought Dashboard Confessional CD's (both and the Drowning EP). I have a new obsession now. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 03:32:12 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:32:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I don't love anyway (yeah right) Message-ID: <3B3D55C8@MailAndNews.com> Hello, Trish Brazil said: >>maybe i should opt for the life of ken chu and simply adopt a new name and reinvent myself - touring the country, living from one vodka and red bull to the next<< It sounds good, but then you also have to spend your entire life not being fancied by anyone ever, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, not mine anyway. I am leaving Nottingham in four days, I went to this club tonight, where this girl I liked goes to every now and then. She didn't turn up, so I won't ever see her again, ever, ever, hmmmm, life is great. Sarcasm is rubbish. I decided to make a difference and went to vote the other day, so I voted for the conservatives candidate cos he had the best name out of everyone, the labour person won with a landslide victory, oh well. My friend provided the guy at the voting place the highlight of his day cos his ballot paper thingie was number 999. B&S ish content =============== Sturan directed the video for Camera Obscura's new single "Eighties fan" and it's bluddy grate. It's all funny and strange and features some chef who Cooked in the year 96 and an astronaut spacestation Lander. It is going to be on MTV2 woohoo. The song is well good too, I played it five times in a row cos it's bluddy grate. What's even better is that you can buy it soon! http://www.missprint.org/parkandride/mhonarc/200105/msg00021.html The best things in life and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keshi at xxx.it Fri Jun 8 23:35:47 2001 From: keshi at xxx.it (Francesca Andreatta) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:35:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: what i am not and what i don't want... Message-ID: <00b701c0f06c$6ffc16e0$df7d1997@a07195> Hi, I'm sad. tonight was the last dinner with the class. next week exams will start and after that I won't see any of the classmates anymore... we've spent five years together, and at the end what remains is simply hate. most of them were pretending to be completely drunk despite the fact that they haven't drink that much. just like any other year my friends were all upset and me too. I feel just like I'm losing something but I don't know what... I don't feel like studying, I don't feel like accepting that I won't see my lovely teacher 'the old philosopher' anymore... he was equally lovely and awful, but I will miss him, I know. and if I finally get through the exams I should start to think about what I can do later... awful in this period I really can't recognise people: today I saw a sister's exclassmate, and didn't recognise him, I remember him taller (well, last time I saw him I was 14 and it was 5 years ago). last week it happened with another person (maybe he's on the list. if you are then 'hi, yatsura!'). I was chatting outside a theatre after a gig and he showed up and said hi. I still feel guilty for the fact I didn't recognise him, I remembered him not so tall and with different hair... sorry to use the list for a sort of diary page/ complaint... I return to the lovely world. ah, one thing: I read a review about Alasdair Roberts' 'crook of my arm' and I was really curious about it. does anyone know something about it? bye Francesca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Fri Jun 8 22:15:01 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:15:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List stuff, please read Message-ID: <013c01c0f0c7$8cd807a0$0300a8c0@crockery> Dear all If you are new to the list, or didn't see my previous message, please read. As sinister surrogate mother I have been worried recently that I am not carrying out my duties. The list has been getting some mails which make me nervous. Short posts are not necessarily bad, but too many and the list becomes fragmented, and people start sending knee-jerk reactions to posts, and then others do the same and the whole thing spirals. Thin end of the wedge. It does and can happen. There are a lot of posts at the moment, as I am sure you have noticed. This list is a bit different from other places - from newsgroups, bulletin boards and some other lists - and the quality of the posts iand the niceness of the people is what has made sinister strong. One list rule which I had forgotten is please, if you see something funny, please include as part of a mail, rather than just forwarding the mail. Similarly, references to gigs, replies to a small number of people. I don't want to get at anyone in particular (some older listees will be shaking their heads at this - heard it all before), but as new people join, sometimes we need to restate things. Honey has had lots of mails in the past, pleading with her to do stuff to stop some of the things which are now included in the list rules now, which is why they exist. A list is a very very delicate thing, and it can be so easy for it go bad, and this has happened on hundreds of lists. So please, please, think before you post. The mails are going out to over a thousand people I will be hiding at the gigs now...and I wish I looked like the bespectacled fox in the sillistrations. One day I probably will. Oh, I had another listen to Jonathan David and maybe I was too harsh. Honey says it sounds like a Stuart song? So when Stevie sings it, it sounds odd. Or is it Stevie trying to write like Stuart? He needs tying down, that boy. Linda SLM xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 11:34:23 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 03:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Boulder to Birmingham (arrival at New Street expected roughly 20 minutes after scheduled time due to unevenness in transport policy) Message-ID: <20010609103423.26619.qmail@web5303.mail.yahoo.com> When I heard them say your name, that's all it took. That's all it took to make me yearn for your embrace - I guess I might as well admit no-one can take your place. Yes, that's what I would like to say to Robin Cook. How appallingly he has been treated. What a brave face he must put on saying 'I was pleased to be summoned back to perform this nugatory role as Leader of the Commons'. Jack Straw as Foreign Secretary - jeez, we might as well bring back Douglas Hurd, jumpers and all. The jumpers, they might be the good bit. I've nothing against jumpers. I saw two Cary Grant pictures last Saturday. MY FAVOURITE WIFE starred Irene Dunne. Then I saw YOU CAN COUNT ON ME. This slow, understated film was fabulous. Its rootsy soundtrack made me want to go out, I mean, in, and write a rootsy soundtrack. My editor suggested writing an imaginary musical which doesn't exist. So we both went ahead and did it. It took no time at all. SLM said: >>> the quality of the posts iand the niceness of the people is what has made sinister strong. That's very true, except re. Peter Miller. In his case, it's the poor quality of the posts and his essential lack of personality that have made sinister weak over the years. In some ways, I feel that the one thing holding the list back from greatness since 1997 has been the mixture of slackness and unpleasantness so regularly displayed by the geezer Miller. He has let us all down time and time again. I have never understood why Honey didn't chuck him off years ago. >>> Oh, I had another listen to Jonathan David and maybe I was too harsh. How did you listen to it? I didn't think it was out yet. I knew I was behind, but I didn't know I was as behind as that. Come to think of it, I thought I was more behind. >>> Honey says it sounds like a Stuart song? So when Stevie sings it, it sounds odd. I don't know why you say that. When Stevie T sings Stuart Adamson songs I always find it strangely appropriate. It's the mixture of Celtic bellow and Canadian aestheticism that does it. That does it. >>> Or is it Stevie trying to write like Stuart? He needs tying down, that boy. What boy? Lloyd Cole's 'That Boy' needs not so much tying down as flinging out there so that everyone hears it and understands the genius of Lloyd again. Rhapsodic, that's my word for 'That Boy'. You can check the archive if you don't believe me. I always call it 'rhapsodic'. I don't know whether the geezer Stuart Murdoch needs tying down. I think he needs winding up. I am becoming slowly appalled at his apparent lack of output. How many songs has he written in the last year or so? Probably about 5 and a half. Feeble. Oh, and if he's reading this and doesn't like it, I'll be waiting for him with a feather duster outside the sub post office on fashionable Milngavie's high street tomorrow. Choose your weapons. I'll take Miller on too, while we're about it. Mucky pups indeed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Jun 8 13:22:43 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:22:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sarcasm is rubbish. Message-ID: <3B20C393.1C0A982A@netscapeonline.co.uk> The subject line is a quote from the Mr. PY Chu. A rather fine line, methinks. I plan to tread it, in intent not unlike Richard Long (who makes installation artworks comprising photos of country walks he's made in the form of reproduced maps and photos and stones collected in a circle on the floor (like a pagan 'consecrated place'/clearing in the forest/ space on life's journey) or, if we admit *telephone line* Sol LeWitt. Capitalise the W for added fun [ real name Sol Lewitt]. O, the intelligence and humour/huey of the sun, beaming over the telephone. He telephones instructions from New York, and people in consequence paint ordered series of lines on walls; white-painted cubic timber-skeleton cities on the floor and, increasingly, patches of complex hues on the walls, presumably done via a series of overlays of acted-upon references to a colour chart (users of programs such as photoshop will be familiar with the hue/saturation/brightness concept which arrives as a series of numbers and makes pretty patches on the screen). Here'Say are interviewed on Radio 1, and do seem to be producing some finely produced pop. Heresy is merely against the soberly (without passion) re-elected government. The dj fancies Susy. I was given half a pint of wine in a tumbler by an (*the(e)*) actress/barmaid at the French the first time I went there, in London's Soho: I asked for 'red wine; a large one please' so she smiled and emptied half a bottle into this large glass tumbler. I kept going back. The manager, escorting me out the door one night said to me: 'Not everyone likes you, but you're always very polite, and so you're always welcome back' so they're like, my family down south. I occassionally pop in between flights to impress them. There are hush hush rumours of a possible Camera Obscura/Dudley Corporation joint gig. But I'll say no more because I know no more, but it would be good. I have to re-make a compilation tape and, thankfully have already made a track-listing, so I can pick up the CD's in the right order. The previous one I listen to alot but, unfortunately, a lovely but rather scratchy recording of a Portugese love song is bleeding into the Arctic waters of a Hector Zazou/Bjork track I recorded over it. So I'll do the whole thing again. I seem to be making an elaborated bullet-pointed list to the sinister list, and I fear recriminations for its lack of consequence. So I shall stop, and send it anyway. Like the tape. Which will be carried by a variety of transports to another part of the world: a concept of which I am fond, along with the idea of a Camera Obscura/Dudley Corporation joint gig. I shall be at the Glasgow picnique. I'll be the scary silent one lost amongst all the other scary silent ones, attempting to forget imagined images projected over the internet. I suggest Peter Miller calls Ally96 on his mobile for directions to the lower entrance/exit of the Kelvingrove underground (clockwork orange: ref to the refurbishment of the line in the same year as the Burgess/Kubrick collaboration came out on screen with music by Walter/Wendy Carlos (after Beethoven) from his vantage point in, who knows? Catalonia? The Saracen's Head? A&E? Better shut up about, say, 9 paragraphs back. 2 and I'd get away with Here'say. But it would never be enough :) Gordon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 15:06:44 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 16:06:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: bencassim Message-ID: ciao a tutti can I ask you a question? can someone give me the web address for the bencasim festival homepage? each time I try opening it an error msg appears saying that it's a forbiden page or something like that. I would really like to go there, I must confess I've never been to a festival, or actually I never camped at a festival for a few days. I imagine you meet loads of people there, and at least you know that they have similar music tastes as you !! I'm shy. but not shy enough to prevent you all from reading my stream of consciousness... I sometimes find that when i've already pushed the send button i would have liked to have posted a third of what I actually did. I guess I'm a bit too impulsive. it happens to me all the time in life too: i say\do something and as soon as I did it i'm wondering why i have... ;-) in the past few days, insted of studying i spent hours in transferring my mum's beatles records on to cassettes, so I could take them home with me and listen to them. it's a titanic venture. must go back to study now. if you haven't anyithing better to do hink about me mon. morning. i need a lot of luck! big exam!! dei baci Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iaradcliffe at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 16:13:39 2001 From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 16:13:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "Muffins? But I specifically ordered crumpets!" Message-ID: Hi, Well the rain's certainly falling hard on this humdrum town today, but with our favourite rock behemoths rolling in tomorrow with juggernauts, private jets, hairdressers, liggers, dealers and roadies, I though I'd treat you all to one of my rare (and highly collectible) despatches. God knows how little old Perth will cope with the RAWK carnage that always attends the hard-gigging, groupie-shagging, satanic riffing monsters that are Belle and Sebastian. Especially after Thursday's election recount. If the Tories had won, we'd have none of this decadent rock 'n' roll nonsense here thank you very much. (It's at this point that I should warn you that this post will be quite random and indeed shite, but on the plus side, I won't write again for another few blue moons.) I agree with the sentiments of Mark Cassarole that it's difficult to get the requisite FLOW, so I thought I'd try the old subject headings in capitals style. FRIED FOOD (containing a lame joke) My loverly big brother is home for a few days, and he is proving preferable to the cringeworthy tv version. I made him a top-notch soft white bap with bacon and eggs and brown sauce for breakfast today in the greasy spoon style. As we both munched contendly on the artery hardening deliciosness, we composed a lame joke which I think should appear on Chewin' the Fat (Fwightfully Scotch comedy, dahling). Customer: Can ah have sausages on a white roll wi' broon sass please? Greasy spoon proprietor: Aye, no problem. Link, sliced or silly? Boom, boom. NEIGHBOURS IN PRODUCT PLACEMENT SHOCKER Has anyone else noticed that Tad Reeves has been drinking an inordinate amount of 500ml Sprite this week? At least twice in the kitchen at number 30 there was a gratuitous guzzling shot, and once in the coffee shop 'n all. Ramsay Street should be free of such corruption. GLASGOW GIGS Plaudits to Ally "Organised" Cook for the picnic arrangements. If someone could sort the weather out, that'd be grate. I'm going to be travelling from Perth on my lonesome (sob), so I'd welcome some company for anyone going to Friday's. If interested then sent me a message. Ta. I hope that Saturday's will feature a sizeable drunken mob to go en masse, post picnic. As I've said, I'll be bravely going on my own, so please feel free to give me a big hug, especially if you're a girl. If a bloke, then a manly back-slapping moment reminiscent of Iceman and Maverick in Top Gun will suffice. "You are still dangerous, Mav!". God, I used to love that film. Has anyone seen Pearl Harbor? Apparently it's got a really AWFUL bit (no, really) when flyboy Matt Damon or whoever whines, "Please don't take away my wings." Oh, the fromage is pungent. SORRY FOR BANGING ON, YOU MUST BE BORED See above. Righty ho, I'll boog raff soon. Think I'll get the horses saddled for a ride round the estate. Shoot a few animals while shouting "Save our Pound" in a Yorkshire accent. Johnathan David's a "grower" n'est pas? I thought it was a bit haphazard at first, but it's really rather nice. B&S do seem to have had a bit of a 60s obsession in their songs recently. MDR sounds good as well, but could do with more throbbing organ. (sorry) Hope to see some of you soon, enjoy the gigs all that are going. Luv, Iain. x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Sat Jun 9 23:02:59 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:02:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Fluffy duckies and farm fantasies Message-ID: <20010609220259.66162.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, A second post is a conundrum to rival those of Countdown. I have been perusing some musings which have stayed with me long enough to be documented. I was at York uni last weekend and was struck by the beauty of the surroundings. Fair enough the halls are not the Ritz (obviously as the Ritz is the Ritz) but it doesn't really matter when you are able to look out of the window and see little fluffy ducks flapping about and the odd bunny rabbit. This made me long for something more than London suburbia, though i have thought i would like to get out for a while my passion to emulate Ma Larkin (Darling buds of May) has increased to the point where i am swooning over oven gloves (Thanks Falconer!) Belle and Sebastian provided the soundtrack to my weekend, it was my companion in the early hours when "sleepy drawers" (the person i was visiting) was still sleeping. The train journey was blissful with the countryside to stare at and Belle and Sebastian to tell me stories and urge me to sing along. I couldnt resist humming and causing the old blokes playing cards to cast me a bemused glance. I've been Jojo, you've been a wonderful audience. Take care. x ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAbsurdHero at xxx.com Sun Jun 10 00:21:42 2001 From: TheAbsurdHero at xxx.com (TheAbsurdHero at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:21:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: The first time I heard Cat Stevens I was drunk Message-ID: Hello list, My name is Damon. This is my first post. I've been a fan of Belle & Sebastian since "If You're Feeling Sinister" came out. I have a wide taste of music, everything from Woody Guthrie to The Sex Pistols to Handel to Marvin Gaye to Public Enemy. Right now, I'm going through a motown phase("What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted" by Jimmy Ruffin is the greatest song ever.) Besides music I love reading (Jack Kerouac, Anton Chekhov, William Shakespeare, Samuel Beckett, Albert Camus, Bronte, James Joyce and much more), Also film(Stanley Kubrick, Martin Scorsese, Akira Kurosawa, Elia Kazan etc..) and my greatest passion acting. I live in the USA near the Bay Area. Summer so far is very dull and blah. I may take some summer courses, if I have time. I've planned to work on two plays and write a one act to direct for next year. I'm also going to see Radiohead live(yay!.) Right now I'm debating weather to order the DVD "Woman In The Dunes" or pre-order the DVD of "Akira." I own too much CDs, I need to get more films. Well that's all I have to say now. bye bye. -Damon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Sun Jun 10 10:37:12 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:37:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: thanks all! Message-ID: grazie a tutti! you've all been really helpful and nice (what else could I expect though...) luis: yes I am italian, but apparently I'm not the only one... pedro: see you in bencasim? who knows! francesca: in bocca al lupo per la maturit�, io faccio parte di quelli che l'hanno data con il vecchio esame (per fortuna? -boh!) read you all soon Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From crp28 at xxx.uk Sun Jun 10 15:28:02 2001 From: crp28 at xxx.uk (Choo-Choo Charlie) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:28:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the long roads....a bit too winding Message-ID: Yay - i smell a lot of rain - it's so the comfort of choice. But also, i am panicky and maybe someone here can help lots. The scarborough gig - how on earth is anyone getting home? A nice man mailed me a while back and said he was driving to york, where there are later trains, but we won't all fit in his car. And everything stops too early....what is a boy to do? Any scarborough goers got any plans for hometime? and apologies to everyone else - i'm sure you see the dilemma tho. love charlie s t a y b e a u t i f u l +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Sun Jun 10 16:00:21 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:00:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Outside cookery Message-ID: <65.159dd65d.2854e585@aol.com> Hey Sinister's It's James Now I hope u don't get too fed up with me going on about Leicester Picnic but I just need your help here. When I first put out the idea of a picnic there was loads of you (I had around 15 mails) all interested and thought "Blimey I'm surrounded by these people" , Just lately though you all seem to have disappeared,I just can't get hold of many people. So if everyone who's up for it could just give me a bell. Another idea I've been playing with is to have a BBQ , I'll bring the the thing but again I could just do with knowing how many people to expect so as to account for feeding. Is this a good idea? You know what would be really grate, if you give me ring on .... 07932150709 It'd be good to have a proper coversation, emails are so impersonal . """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""" Has anyone else seen those jeans that are sold as Blue Label. They're really strange cos if you look under the labels you can see they used to have at some point had someone else's label. VERY ODD. HELP Does anyone else know where I could find David Kitt's "The Big Romance". I've heard nothing but good things about it. The Sun keeps flirting, but I think that's as far as she wants to go as the Clouds give many hiding places and so............ See you. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sat Jun 9 17:23:21 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 17:23:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: story Message-ID: <3B224D79.FF1871C5@netscapeonline.co.uk> Things have happened overnight in person which, for reasons bordering upon discretion, I shall not divulge but rather I'll focus on two people, and all of you. One is a gentleman of my own age; the other is a police sergeant. You all know or, are finding who you are. The former bears the character of an aristocrat. He is effusive and witty; a little philosophy; strong and companionable and responds to requests for his roll-up cigarettes, but only if the conversation allows it, and is lively to the concept of debate. We sit by the riverside: me smoking his roll-ups by the minute and talking endlessly as he smiles and works up towards another expostulation. He is scared of his mother. This said to you, not in order to describe his haranguing on subjects such as moral philosophy but in the jist of his emotional provenance. It is approaching 3am. The other man; the police man is more irritated by the disruption to his routine and the responsible young men who felt it was worthy of their sense of duty to call upon his services, as I drove, loosing a hub-cap, up the road. We proceed from the portable breathalyser to the clunky one in the interview room alongside his femail compadre who says 'the debate stops here' in the van in which I'm being taken into Stirling. The sergeant says I'm the most polite man he's ever arrested under these circumstances. Rather than be pedantic I smile (although he cannot see this) and remain silent. I considered Utilitarianism and the Law and decided that, in this instance, my guilt should be clearly expressed. The sergeant has a respectable demeanour verging upon the pleasant and, his compadre returns into this lemon-sickness coloured room with the clunky breathalyser with its widely ranging results saying 'have you been chatting' to the sergeant. We're waiting. We're all waiting, and to expand upon a trivial story of some slight degree of moral complexity: things come and go. More importantly in life's rich tapestry: they pass; weave, bind and stitch together. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bipedalboy at xxx.com Sun Jun 10 18:38:28 2001 From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:38:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: i dreamt an arshile gorky landscape...time me on this Message-ID: <92.15dc7db5.28550a94@aol.com> terrible me, last night when i fell asleep i dreamt of architectonic paintings? what curious structures, reminded me of a tempest approaching or miro fully realized... in the landscape adolf wolfi played his trumpet as he concurred he is truly the king of the universe, all agreed but the bride of the wind ran away before she could decide. in mexico she laid asleep, like myself, dreaming of sidhe... strange dream, no? oddly though it made perfect sense to me? no B&S content, but one has to expect some other interference in to be filtered in once in awhile.... when will i be distracted by the new B&S CD? lost in berkeley, luismonkeyboysidhe "sogni d'oro" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 00:46:03 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:46:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Let's Taste The Thrill Of Stolen Love Once More Until The Dawning Message-ID: <000401c0f207$8bd72700$076e7ad5@default> Hi All, It seems to be OK to discuss the new single even though its not been released yet: so as I was able to overhear someone listening to it the other evening I'll stick my oar in too with a couple of initial impressions. I'll agree with fellow juror Mr Leonard's consistent high scores & would add that the first thing to strike me was how great it SOUNDS: a beautiful recording, crystal clear with every voice & instrument distinct. There's a splash cymbal in Jonathan David that shatters as painfully as a sheet of glass. The most impressive thing about JD seems to be the vocal arrangement & the way it builds between Stevie Reverb, Stuart & (what sounds to me more like Sarah than Isobel, but I'm most probably mistaken). Is it this that has inspired the comparisons with The Zombies? I also caught myself jigging about to it behind the settee in my uniquely clumsy way. As to TYCCASI (yes!) I think its the string arrangement that makes it: someone's getting better at these, from FYHCYWLAP, through Camera Obscura's Eighties Fan & now this - wow! I've been trying not to think about the lyrics too much though as in certain aspects they reflect my own current work experience & I fear that pondering them too closely might make me blub. Pretty pedal steel too, I wonder who plays that? Its really difficult to achieve an objective viewpoint on this now but I suspect that if I knew nothing about Belle and Sebastian and were to hear this on the radio it would have the same effect on me as The State I Am In did in '96. TLOTMDR: is it really 3 and a half years since this was broadcast on Beat Patrol? Great to have a "proper" version available at last. So many instruments! At least 6 guitars, I think, as well as various keyboards, strings, percussion & whistling: you'd probably need chemical help to listen to them all at the same time. Anyway, onto that real list business stuff. Peter Miller asked for a Chris Leonard gig review days ago & never received one. I bet a list Mum or two went, but all Lulou at missspell.org does is snub Peter by consistently calling him "Millar". All I can contribute is a note about The Foxgloves gig last week when they played to a lucky audience of 8 gorgeous people & me (at least two thirds of whom listees) in a smart loft in Clerkenwell. Great sound, welcome, hospitality & atmosphere despite (because of?) the small number present. Joe Brooker/The Pinefox kicked off proceedings with 3 new solo songs before being joined by Stevie "Le" Troussé for another 10 numbers including 2 new Stevie songs & covers of Laura Cantrell & some geezer called ?Lloyd Cole. Excellent: wish you all could have heard it. Jinx followed with a delightful performance but I can't go into as much detail because unfortunately I'm not at all familiar with their material. Thanks to all concerned. Where's Big Gay Mark's right arm in that Primrose Hill picnic photo? http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/May2001-ThePrimrosePath3.html The new Super Furry Animals album is fantastic. I never thought I would read myself saying that. My PC's been busted so I've missed the Dunoon reviews on Sinister: were they any good? Soon be Friday!!!!! Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Mon Jun 11 00:54:14 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:54:14 +1200 Subject: Sinister: indie schmindie Message-ID: <000901c0f208$c25e6440$1f6137d2@computer> hello list folk again, a long time since I posted, mainly thanks to repeated illnesses. very frustrating. I have literally *just* got over a bad cold, only to get another worse one. so today I am at home, surfing the net, and reading "The Name Of The Rose" by Umberto Eco, which I must confess to be one of the very best books I have ever had the fortune to read, in a year where I have read very many good books. it's great, at work there are three of us who depole sport and talk about books, and we've ben passing stuff around, which has been fab. I haven't had to visit the public library in months. righto, firstly a question ..... ***CAMERA OBSCURA*** Can anyone tell me what this band is actually like, and whether they have released anything. (and by way of an aside, I should point out that the demise of Napster has MADE ME BUY LESS RECORDS. yes, it is true. last year, hearing about bands on this list, I would download a few tracks, and if i liked'em, would buy an album, or, in the case of Hefner, their entire back catalogue, plus singles, and then start accumulating bootlegs. now I just tend to ingore a lot of the recommendations, because the NZ dollar is so low it makes buying an album unseen a real risk) so, err .... screw you, major record companies. Anyway, Camera Obscura sound liuke they'd be really great, so if anone would like to e-mail me and tell me a little more about them, what's available etc., I may very well take the plunge. next ... ***THE PRISONER*** I know fellow Auckland listee Scott M mentioned this a week or so back. any other fans? I have just started watching the show, and it really is brilliant. it also makes bits of Mansun's "Six" make a little more sense too. thirdly (or, fourthly, if you count the introduction) ***NEW B&S STUFF*** was wondering what sort of hype (if any) was going on. there was a lot in the music papers when "Legal Man" was about to come out, but there doesn't (to me) seem nearly as much excitement or hype this time. I still haven't heard the sibngle, but am nonetheless excited. Also, anyone know anything more about the s/t album. Will the Jeepster album be just the B&S stuff (hopefully), or half and half with the other stuff. Also, is it a mixture of "proper songs" and score, or jusr score. Any info appreciated .... takes a while to trickle down this side of the world, is all .... finally ***THE BEACH BOYS*** Buy more of their albums. I have ... I bought 4 of the two-for-one CDs the other day, and haven't looked back. Especially "Friends" and "Sunflower", each of which is *almost* as good as "Pet Sounds" right, back to bed and books, mike love, not war Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 01:27:19 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:27:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: indie schmindie References: <000901c0f208$c25e6440$1f6137d2@computer> Message-ID: <007901c0f20d$46c9c9a0$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Mikkelsen" To: "Belle & Sebastian mailing list" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Sinister: indie schmindie > ***CAMERA OBSCURA*** > Can anyone tell me what this band is actually like, and whether they have > released anything. (and by way of an aside, I should point out that the > demise of Napster has MADE ME BUY LESS RECORDS. yes, it is true. last year, > hearing about bands on this list, I would download a few tracks, and if i > liked'em, would buy an album, or, in the case of Hefner, their entire back > catalogue, plus singles, and then start accumulating bootlegs. now I just > tend to ingore a lot of the recommendations, because the NZ dollar is so low > it makes buying an album unseen a real risk) so, err .... screw you, major > record companies. > www.winmx.com i just found one of their songs. fear not my nz friend! this is the best online recommendation i've ever received. jay "no, that sounds like ragga" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 05:03:24 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:03:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Get me away from here I'm dying Message-ID: <3B373FF2@MailAndNews.com> Hello, Life can be great sometimes :-). Remembered the girl I talked about last time? Well yesterday was my 21st birthday, so I invited everyone (and so of course her) along to my little night out, and she replied saying she might come! Woohoo. Well the night went on, she didn't turn up, but various friends turned up instead, so great fun was had by all, for some reason tho, my conversation with one of the friends turned to her, and that's when I discovered that the girl and him have been starting going out since last week. Some fucking grate 21st birthday this was. You can't plan a more apt birthday for dear old Ken if you tried can you. Ah well. Yay and my mum called me the other day cos she got a letter the other day from a company I've applied for, she couldn't read much English but she read the word "unable", oh ok thanks. Oh and my pet rabbit got run over by a car last night, that's not true I don't have a pet rabbit but it may as well have happened. Hmm B&S contents, I listened to tigermilk at 3am last night and sobbed. Sucker Punches and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Message-ID: <20010611053155.83655.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> hello fine people, sorry, i don't mean to post this to the list since this doesn't have any b and s content, but i am looking for richard pushong to e-mail me at either of my two e-mail accounts cerulean_mist at altavista.com or belle1974 at yahoo.com it is regarding travel arrangements to the uk that i e-mailed to your aol account. i need a confirm before i can pay for the flight. please e-mail me! :o) in other news: the la picnic was a success! we had a nice turn-out of almost 20 people! we ate and drank ribena, played some hacky sack, took silly photos, stood in awe of dogs that weighed less than two pounds, kicked back and forth a "football", and we were serenaded by two lovely guitarists playing b and s ditties. cheers to all who attended! it was grand! we will have to meet up again soon! :o) cheerios, jennifer juniper __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 10:24:39 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:24:39 0000 Subject: Sinister: Do you want blood? Message-ID: Hello, ooh I am jealous of people who went to the Dunoon gig. Although nobody has written about it yet..unless that's my computer being kind and blocking out their reviews so I don't feel jealous. Reading the nme review, I did find Stuart's annecdote about his mum wiping the sweat off his piano a little disturbing...what exactly was he getting up to on his instrument...;) oh, the story is at http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,32624,00.html if you want to listen to an nme person's opinion, although I am never sure of their worth. Choo-choo charlie asked 'any plans for hometime' of people going to the scarborough gig. Well, i live in Leeds, and since the idea of sleeping in the train station sounds rather unappealing, me and my friends are staying in the bootiful sylvern hotel. Which is very, ahem, swanky. Well, it is painted red and white anyway. I do think they should put on a special late train for B+S goers. Most inconsiderate. Apart from that...ooh Jonathan David. Wow. I love that bit where it just all their voices and no instruments. The harmony reminds me of the way pop groups always sing accapelo ( is that how it's spelt?) on kids shows just to prove they can actually sing. hmm. But better of course. Anyway, think i've wasted enough of your time. That's the socially acceptable humble ending to post isn't it. Sort of shy and goofy. Typical B+S fan stylee, byebye, Gracexxxxxx p.s Is bob kildae an official member now or is he just filling in...Struan sounds like he was having a bit of a go at stuart d. ooh the gossip. --- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Mon Jun 11 11:24:34 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:24:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Dunoon Message-ID: Hullo I don't think anyone has posted about Dunoon yet. In fact, there didn't seem to be many listees that I recognised there, but it was dark, and we all had our faces turned longingly towards the stage. Firstly, it was great. I hope no-one is offended because they can't get to gigs, but honestly, it was a joy. They played for over an hour, and (according to the NME) played 20 songs. When we arrived in Dunoon, we went to the tourist office to try to get a cheaper B&B than the one I booked over the modern internet, but were told with great glee by the nice lady there that we wouldn't find a thing, as the town was chock-a-block with two weddings, a clan gathering, and "the concert". Shortly after, our B&B owner offered to put all four of us in the same room. Rock-and-roll! We turned him down, were very respectable, and made it to breakfast the next day. I think the good townsfolk of Dunoon may have been disappointed at the genteel behaviour of the fans. The ambulance which cruised around the streets was, as far as I know, unused. Although it may have been on account of the weddings. I won't attempt any detailed musical analysis, but they looked and sounded lovely - really relaxed and happy. Various cool-looking musicians at played string instruments and a flute, and the bloke from the front of JD played bass. He is, everyone said, "Bob from V-Twin" and I didn't catch his second name - Kildare? Anyway he was very cute and very good, and searching the archives shows that he has been mentioned on sinister before as resembling Rod Stewart, which I suppose might be true depending on your opinion of Rod. Didn't get any set list, but songs they played (in no particular order) Family Tree, Like Dylan In The Movies, The Model, Boy with the Arab Strap, Slow Graffitti, Jonathan David, Legal Man, If you are Feeling Sinister, The Wrong Girl, a new song about Stuart's car, and (at this stage our collective minds got hazy) possibly two other new songs, one of which started off with Isobel singing and Stuart taking over. They obviously sang more than I have remembered, and I am lookign frantically through the albums to try to jolt my mind, but we listened to "sinister" as we drove home, our wee heads bobbing happily by the bonnie bonnie banks of Loch Lomond, and that has confused me. Stuart writing a song about his car is proof that he is still simply divine and mad as a brush, although there probably are true rock (and maybe pop, and certainly country) precedents for this. Greater minds than I will probably inform. Stevie gave a resounding rendition of Suspicious Minds in the request section, and Stuart looked a little put out at the ecstatic response ("I might as well go home...") but it was all really good-humoured - no tension on stage and Isobel's hair was especially shiny. People were at Perth last night? How was that? We are going to Dunfermline tonight, which is seated, Katrina says. Apparantly the set list is not going to change much, so maybe I will be able to give a better account tomorrow. I will take a notebook. Jonathan David has been on the radio, which is why I thought it was ok to mention it. I am afraid we have no special promo copy :) But I need to try to listen to it again, as at the concert Stuart joined Stevie singing the last part, and that seemed to anchor Stevie a bit. I still wish Stuart had sung this song, no matter who wrote it. As for Mistopher Chris.. he sang like an angel and had a dog called Scampi on stage with him. Shortly after the venue went on fire, but we sat tight. The Dudley Corporation truly rock. Apologies to PM - I thought I had that dyslexia licked, but obviously I go a bit scatty when I am in the presence. Lloyd Cole was on the juke box in the Sinbad pub in Dunoon. Honestly - just squatting on top, taking swipes at everyone as they tried to put on motown. "What do you think of my albums?" he snarled. "We like the later stuff" we said, surprising ourselves. The Sopranos by Alan Warner should be compulsory list reading. But I don't want to push my luck. Linda xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cdarwin at xxx.uk Mon Jun 11 17:03:27 2001 From: cdarwin at xxx.uk (Miss Cressida Jane Darwin) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: News from Dunoon Message-ID: i promised to bring mr ben ferneyhough (who has the thankless task of running one of the great tapetrees on the list) some news back of dunoon. the nme, linda and grace have covered most of it, but as i got one of the photographers by the stage to acquire stevie's setlist for me (and then kindly left him to deal with one of the road crew who seemed to think they might need them again - oops!) here it is in it's full glory: le pastie de la bourgeoisie there's too much love the magic of a kind word i know where the summer goes if you're feeling sinister jonathan david slow graffiti the model (my girl's got) miraculous technique simple things the boy with the arab strap fox in the snow family tree like dylan in the movies i love my car the wrong girl woman's realm legal man as you can see there really was a gap in the setlist! they seemed to be enjoying themselves as much as we were - struan was doing a particularly energetic little jig to "suspicious minds" and after the first couple of songs they really relaxed and seemed very confident. although, stevie was thrown for a couple of seconds when singing " i was looking for my baby" from " the wrong girl" and struan interjected with a playful "did you find her?"! Dave Wilson And The Uptown Shufflers provided good support and those going to the glasgow gigs may be interested to know that they are going to be playing there too. i'm not sure quite what mixed reactions the nme were referring to, but i spent 16 hours of the weekend travelling to and from dunoon and considered it more than worth it and i'd be *really* grateful if anyone can contact me if they hear of any spare standing tickets to RAH. cress xox ----------------------------------- Cressida Darwin c.darwin at sghms.ac.uk St. Georges Hospital Medical School Opinions expressed those of the author and not the institution +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Mon Jun 11 12:17:55 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:17:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Here we go again, askin' where I've been Message-ID: <001601c0f268$29fc6020$8624a5d8@udrtg> Good morning! It appears that last July 11th I made a POP PREDICTION! I posted: "Lately I've been having fantasies about Belle & Sebastian covering Suspicious Minds, and I'm a bit worried about my sanity. How great would it be though?" Then, running across that song on a mix md again the other day, I tittered to myself. Then, I came home and went to #sinister and Gav told me that they'd played it! I AM the Miss Cleo of Pop! Trousers claims they played it at Bowlie but I was not at Bowlie so I certainly could not have known that. I stand behind the fact that I had a PSYCHIC VISION of a show that would occur 11 months in the future! Surrogate List Mum Linda said: "- no tension on stage and Isobel's hair was especially shiny." You know what makes a good hair conditioner? SPUNK. It's high in protein, makes hair shiny. Also, it may explain the sweat on the keyboard. I'd like to agree with Linda that the Sopranos should be required reading! Whenever someone mentions the Sopranos, I think of that book and not the stupid tv show on HBO. Once, standing behind Edie Falco in line at Tower Video, the checkout girl said "Oh, you're on the Sopranos!" and I dropped my copy of Smash Hits. I calmed down when I realized she was not a Scottish school girl. Has anyone seen the miniseries that was made of the book?? The only BBC miniseries I ever manage to see star a fresh-faced Ewan Mcgregor. That one where he wanted to get it on with Napoleon was really weird. The second season of Popstars in the US is going to feature a band with both boys and girls, and as far as I know this will be the first high profile American-born mixed sex band to take on the Billboard top 100. Being the good budding journalist that I am, I swiped a DAT player and mic from school and went to the open call auditions to see what the wannabes thought about this. The resounding reaction was: "I just don't want to end up like S Club 7!" To which I say, why?! One of my main goals in life is to end up like S Club 7, although not like Rachel, she's flaky. No one mentioned Steps, or Hear'say. What a bunch of losers. Jay posted about finding Camera Obscura on Winmx, but it was probably the wrong Camera Obscura. It seems the only Camera Obscura mp3 in existence belongs to ME (Swimming Pool) and no one has ever downloaded it from me. The other day I bought a copy the Re-Rewind single (for 99 cents!), and it said it was by "Artful Dodger UK". In keeping with the tradition of bands tacking a UK onto the end of their names, I will now refer to the Scottish Camera Obscura as COUK. COUK is gleefully close to COCK. Jonathan David comes out in the US tomorrow. Hooray! I've prepared my sleeping bag and will be spending the evening on the sidewalk in front of Other Music. Remember the NYC picnic, my dear friends. This is not the last you'll hear from me. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Jun 11 12:20:36 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I didn't mean to slag America off, just that ****ing film... Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277550C@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Last Thursday, me and my housemates had a vote to decide which drinks to buy from the supermarket. Out of the twelve of us, 3 voted for Coke and 2 voted for Pepsi. Which means we're all going to have to drink Coke and nothing else for the next 5 years. Of course, the rest of us would much rather have a cup of tea instead, but that's democracy for you. The other day, Sarah (I think) said: >Only 9% young people voted (grrr). Which means that 89% of young people are saying they don't want a democracy. Anyone spot the basic flaw in the argument here? ;-) It is quite sad that the greatest political debate of our day isn't which party to vote for, but whether to vote at all. But after the lowest turnout in history, hopefully the politicians will realise they have to do something about it. The decision by so many people not to vote could well strengthen democracy in the long run. I'm consistently amazed that after 4 years of Tony Blair, anybody at all seriously believes that our current sham democracy is worth saving. Bolivia is more democratic than Britain - at least over there if most of the population disagree with and detest the leader, they can get rid of him (admittedly they may prefer to do it with a sub-machinegun, but at least it works...) So has anybody except list daddy Linda been to see B&S yet? Where is the usual cavalcade of posts describing what they played, what they wore and whether Isobel's bum looked big in it? I think this listener apathy is deeply damaging to our country, and going to concerts should be made compulsory for all people over the age of eighteen. Actually, I was mainly wondering if there is going to be a support band at any of the English concerts, I haven't seen anything mentioned about it yet. Speaking of concerts, is anyone going to see Pulp and the Tindersticks at the Guildford festival on August 3rd? Now that Napster has been shut down, it would be wrong of me to mention that AudioGalaxy.com is still up and running, and Jonathan David has been on there for 2 weeks, so I won't. Big Stu If I go shopping for a new pair of trousers and don't find any I like, is it apathetic not to buy any? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Jun 11 20:44:47 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: yeah, go on laugh! Message-ID: <3B251FAF.3F69@camb.linst.ac.uk> well, my vote was completely void. stupidly i thought you voted twice. yes ok, stop laughing, i cant help my poor education. I was going to keep this to myself (forever) but i keep having strange urges to tell you all my mistakes and embarassing moments. i later had a lesson in politics and realised how little i know, infact there are probably many 4 year olds that know more about it than me. i also underestimated the high demand for t-shirts and have had a far better response than i expected, therefore they might take a while to be completed and the size may not be exact. can those people who e-mailed me give me their addresses (apart from brier coz ive got yours) then i can form a list to work from. cheers hannah i would go home now but im locked out, i will have to spend the day wondering and hope it stays sunny until my flat mate gets in. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark_e_hester at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 13:18:51 2001 From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:18:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Space Boy Dreamski Message-ID: Dunoon gig sounded so good and much as I'm really, really looking to RAH, there are certain advantages to these smaller venues, ease of getting hold of set lists and so forth. Friday night saw me, my girlfriend Emma and new (soon to be ex-) Oxford listee Sarahsocks, together with her hedgehog, watching Preston School of Industry, new band of ex-Pavementee Spiral Stairs in the very small Point. Sarah interviewed said Mr Stairs. I contributed a question and Emma brought along a dictaphone, so it amounted to something of a joint effort. Sarah avoided the subject of Pavement but Scott introduced it himself, which was okay. The absence of support act Creeper Lagoon was compensated in a bizarre way by the band Oranger, Scott's backing musicians for the evening, playing a set of their own. PSOI impressed and depressed in turn. Scott's a top bloke and it was possible to see where the some of the rougher edges of Pavement came from but I have to admit that it's all very much in the shadow of Mr Malkmus. I hope to see the Foxgloves one day, in a loft or otherwise, if only to shout out the titles of random Lloyd Cole song titles and gauge their reaction, "Jennifer She Said" is my favourite.... Just looked at the BBC website's Sci & Tech section, as I often do and I see that Russian pop group Na-Na (oh! them!) are planning to be the first pop group in space. Ah, but they're only doing a Dennis Tito and going round and round, not going to Mars or anything important like that..... Quite excited about Reindeer Section actually. I think supergroups can be fine, provided they don't leave it until the twilight of their careers a la Traveling Wilburys. What *did* happen to Volume Two? Not quite sure how you managed to vote twice, Hannah....more details please, I'm intrigued....... mArk. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Mon Jun 11 13:53:03 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (Lynsey Callaghan) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:53:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010611134934.00ad6610@mailms.ugrad.abdn.ac.uk> hello, first post to the list......will everyone hate me if I don't say something good?!?!?! Feeling a bit jangly as have just had a job interview today, no sleep and lots of coffee involved. No time to think up anything really good to say, all the good things I thought up while in the nursery have vanished now. One question, though: is anybody going to see B&S at the music hall in aberdeen, and does anyone know who anything about support bands???? gracias y buenas dias lyns ------------ Lynsey Callaghan u07lec at abdn.ac.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 14:05:02 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: waiting for the e mails to arrive, slobs, photos, B+S thoughts Message-ID: <20010611130503.3000.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> don't you just hate it when you're waiting for an e-mail and it doesn't arrive? Life with the (Tory) slob I live with goes on. He's been drunk all weekend, and smells, and every time I tried to clean the flat (down on my hands and knees, scurbbing away at the kitchen floor... Flash... its not like in the adverts you know... you still have to be a scrubber) he made more smell and mess and dirt. Honestly. I don't know how he does it. And when I asked him to clean the grill he said nobody else does, and I said well thats cos nobody else uses it, so he asked what the problem was... Honestly. Got photos developed. Some from TITP last year, some from New Year and Christmas, some from the boat trip I was on last week. When i get chance, they are going up on my site. I prefer take your carriageclock and shove it, to Jonathan David actually. I don't know why. However, one complaint. After hearing it once, the night before my final exam, it was stuck in my head as I tried to do my exam the next day. Which would be great.. if it were an exam in B+S. You lot do know about the B+S john Peel session on the 19th (or is it 20th?) of June, don't you? So theres the picnic, huh? I think I shall have to go. At least so you lot can throw things at me. I know a lot of folk from Jeepster are meeting up on the same day, and then theres a bunch of corduroy smokers as well going to the gig. Why not combine the lot and go together? Obviously, that'll probably make up about ooh... half the population of the Barrowlands that evening. I am looking forward to the gig. I suppose I could be really daft and ask what you're all wearing... I've decided I really want to have a purple wig, some fake eyelashes and blue contact lenses and just pretend to be somebody else for a day. Not on the day of the gig though. I have no money to get all those things. Okay, shall leave you to go and get ready and do the things you lot do. Idles... confused about what to do next. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Milla.Gregor at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 17:03:42 2001 From: Milla.Gregor at xxx.com (Milla.Gregor at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:03:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: pure & simple list abuse Message-ID: <7D9111AE89FAD411801A0002A55C31D398AD24@apollo.bmpddb.com> I'm so sorry to abuse- but Mark I've lost your number please give me a belle about the bass guitar. I guess I can say something of value- were there any sinisterines at the Northern Soul night down at that little fetish bar in Vauxhall on Saturday? What a crazy place- Vauxhall is full of fetish bars. I just moved from there. This bar is called 'the Fringe' and as far as I can gether it's a mixed/straight one (the others are strictly for leather queens). Anyway. I think that this is the only non-fetish night that they have. A monthly. Now who's the weirdo! Funny listening to funky music surrounded by people in sober dress with good hair sitting on a bed up by the ceiling with bits of latex tape still tied to the bars about shoulder-width apart... Also (content!) I heard the new songling on the raaaadio (Mark & Lard) last week. I was not filled with undue enthusiasm. I think I only like it when the skinny man that is Struan sings... Take it easy Milla +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Jun 11 18:32:33 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:32:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: milk and cookies Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010611182037.02923a70@shell12.ba.best.com> so i'm talking with cotton mather the other day and he was mocking the legal processes of nabatu. so i replied tritely, "yeah, and john proctor's selling pentagram trinkets in gaol." B&S content: none, other than the rumour that someone is selling a "certain belle and sebastian" band member's socks on ebay... capitalism indeed - what would marx say? + senor droolcup [ there's something in the trees ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 03:57:48 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:57:48 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sex, politics and religion Message-ID: <004d01c0f2eb$d9ed0740$7f23073e@aqlzosqt> :0( i'm so ashamed. my last message to the list apparently slipped through in the ugly leprous attire of HTML. the tart. thought i'd try again today. though, as so often happens in my life, the moment may have passed.... addenda to the following message (past and present are getting confused in my mind now like in the episode of battlestar galactica i inadvertently watched the other day because i didn't have my glasses on and got involved trying to work out what it was): Adrian - i too read Watchmen again straight after finishing it, and only partly because i was on a train between glasgow and brighton with nothing else to read... as for the gilliam film, it may ever remain a castle in the air as i read that the cost of buying the rights is now estimated at a million pounds (or dollars?) a page. parentheses - this list is particularly keen on them i've noticed. they're great. chiefly because they let you just keep going with as many digressions as you want (and we usually want lots) without losing any of the meaning of the original masterly point (if indeed there was any there to start with). oh, and more to adrian: glug is called glog i think. i had it a lot one christmas after friends went to scandinavia. think it was the 'adult' version... finally, well, before i laboriously reproduce what i said last week, hugs to ken pikachu. you should move to brighton, where the girls are single and the beach is... shingle. more biblical paraphrases from gordon, please. my biblical namesake's husband jacob worked for 14 years so he could marry her - my kind of guy. i always feel kind of guilty around people called leah though, the older, uglier sister who jacob was tricked into marrying after the first 7 years. but then, rachel means 'ewe' in hebrew, which has got to be one of the most unromantic definitions ever. i saw a girl with a 3...6...9 badge yesterday, which isn't that common round these anti-indie parts, i can tell you. part of me thinks that to notice such things, much less care, is a bit sad. b&s are just another band, after all, and you can't possibly make useful value judgements about people just from their musical taste. you can't, you know. but on the other hand b&s have been part of my life for so long, and they have come to 'stand for' something, whether i like it or not. sometimes i think sinister is a bit like organised religion: an anchor and a comfort even to people who don't truly believe in the relevant god any more. is that a bad thing to say? the japanese have a word 'amae' which describes that warm feeling of being accepted, included and understood by a group of peers. so rare, so amazing when it happens. sinister at its best moments can produce 'amae', i suspect. whether b&s can take the credit is debatable.... hm... an uncharacteristically reflective aside. my friend (previously known in this context as bagpuss boy) could do a wicked version of the pigeon street theme tune on his casio keyboard. cooo coooo. i'm just gutted that my tendency to travel sickness has put paid to me ever becoming long distance clara. it just sounds like a porn name now... luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Jun 11 23:10:57 2001 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:10:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Smooth Operator Message-ID: Howdy folks, It's been a while since I last posted, nothing much to say or to tell you I suppose. I'll cut to the chase: I want your reviews of the gigs. I've added a new section on www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk specifically for gig reviews, (past or present), and I need your contributions. I've set the ball rolling by putting in the (Glasgow) Herald's favourable review of the Dunoon gig, (did they really play Smooth Operator?). Go to the site, click on Interviews and select the Gig Reviews link to read it, and for instructions on how to send me your reviews. Don't be shy now, if you're lucky enough to be going to a gig, then be good enough to share it (or at least your opinions of it) with the rest of the world. I'm not going to any shows myself, I'm boycotting them on account of all of them being over 25 miles away from where I live and my reluctance to rely on late night trains, and I suppose cos I'm skint if I'm being honest. I still haven't heard Jonathan David, I'm assuming Mark Radcliffe will have played it at some point but since Radio 1 saw fit to shift him an hour earlier, I always forget to listen to his show, and I don't listen to John Peel although I'll be making an exception next Tuesday (19th) when B&S do their session, it is Tuesday isn't it? Apparently the party I voted for won the election, the Apathy party polled over 40% of the vote without even trying. Why can't you vote on the internet yet, is it any wonder nobody votes when you have to walk 3 miles to the local polling station? Or even bring the polling stations round the streets like the ice cream vans. Apparently some wise guy voter went into the polling station and instead of crossing the boxes wrote Wank, Wank, good Guy, Wank instead. Very amusing in a Chewin' The Fat kind of way. 15 minutes passes quickly when you're talking pish... David White david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk Tue Jun 12 00:18:31 2001 From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:18:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cinnnnamon take aways Message-ID: I haven't emailed in ages, i've had exams but a few things inspired me to write... one was about photographs from picnics i have some photographs from the Sheffield picnic (well two) but i dont have a working scanner so if anyone in Sheffield would like to see them drop us a line. Although there is only two photogrpahs and one is slighty out of focus. Another thing there was a subject heading the said sinsiter: little boy lost and it made me think of me cos thats my dj name which reminds me if anyone is in Sheffield tomorow Tuesday 12th June then come to the Casbah and check out the fantastic Velodrome 2000 who are supporting Murry the Hump. - see that i linked another post to my advertsing thus making it look like i wasn't abusing list rules when i am! ( i could be a tory with a mind like that) - or prehaps just Tony Blair, his mind has been warped with the power, where's his ideals gone? Sorry it scares me and what also scares me is the fact that Mikey portaloo is going to be the next leader of the tory party Arghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! - Sorry i'll stop with the politics. Last night a scary thing happened - well it wasn't scary just odd. I was in the takeaway and two blokes, skin heads, matching ralph lauren shirts, and black trousers started taking the piss out of me. The asked me if i liked my skateboard cos it was going to be on fire soon. I thought this behaviour stopped at school, which was the last time i expereinced something like this, and so i was a little shocked and wasn't sure how to react. How i should have reacted was to not say anything and leave quitley and then run like the wind. But did i do that ? No. I had drunk alcohol. I've been making tapes for the USA too one for tic tac girl and the other for tindersticks girl. You know who you are but with one thing and another i have lost your addresses... Sorry if thats list abuse too. But look a long email so i'll stop. love Nigel Love +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 00:47:33 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: cause offense by the way i look Message-ID: <20010611234733.66628.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Hello dearies -- I have an important question for all sinisterines. It involves "the scene." I am curious how other people feel about the appearance roles men play versus the appearance roles women play. In my experience, which is pretty much limited to the US west coast, it seems that in indie rock it is indeed fair and dandy for maletypes to be huge ol' nerds, including poorly chosen clothing, sporadically-tended hair, and the like. Of course I don't mean the hair that is carefully sculpted to look disheveled, but the more or less "authentic" thing. Some of this is postured, but some of it isn't. this seems to me incredibly liberating, at least from my girl vantage point, the cultural revenge of the uncool child, and not the hungry capitalist retribution of the computer geeks, but something much more sweet and giving. A few weeks ago at a show of all-female bands, there was this bio boy with a bright yellow t-shirt featuring a school bus (not the b & s one), a huge band-aid connecting the bridge of his nose to his cheekbone, and most admirably, he totally circumvented the whole "earplugs? or no earplugs?" question by sporting a large maroon-colored pair of construction worker earmuffs. plus, he danced as one imagines he would. now, he stuck out all the more to me in a room full of riot grrls and riot grrl bands, and I could find no equivalent nerdy female, not even a remotely close nerdy female, even (especially?) in riot grrl, it is not acceptable to be an unintentional nerd, or heaven forbid, a girl who detests to shop for clothes, one must be either a carefully chosen truck stop caf� patron, or a hard punk rocker, or a retro-perfect femme, or an 80s glam queen, or a deliberately dressed "dork" (my favorites are the girls who sculpt huge cowlicks to stick out the back of their heads!). .. . you get my point. Which seems to me quite sad. Where is the space for the nerdy girl? So I ask all you lovely sinisterines, especially those of you lucky enough to go to the ongoing shows -- are there nerdy indie girls there? How many of us are nerdy girls? My hope is that a band like b & s, who feature so many female characters/heroes in their songs, would attract some less-posed girls, or maybe create a space for girls who don't comb the thriftstores every weekend. My na�ve, rather formalist, hope is that b & s is a sort of refuge. Of course, males who want to slam my outsider glamorization of male freedom in indie rock would also be of interest. Anyone who wants to share these fashion details of the crowds at the b & s shows with us will receive my never-dying love! so this is plenty for a first post. thank you. kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 02:49:56 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:49:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Birmingham (July 2nd) Ticket Message-ID: <31.1620e7c2.2856cf44@aol.com> Hello all Just very quickly, I've got a spare ticket for the Belle & Seb' gig in Birmingham going spare due to a friend not able to come. You can email me but you'd be more likely to get hold of me on the phone 07932150709 I'm in Leicester so anyone round here would be easier . ================================================ So it's a Datsun, WHAT'S YOUR POINT? James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmk43 at xxx.edu Tue Jun 12 04:44:32 2001 From: jmk43 at xxx.edu (jmk43 at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: "hey milhouse! want a job in my factory?" In-Reply-To: <31.1620e7c2.2856cf44@aol.com> Message-ID: so i get back from a six hour road trip(hour spent in traffic in the bronx) and im sick and nauseous and i just saw "wonder boys" so i was convinced that by smoking weed id become a great writer. i go out on the porch and get high. listening to tigermilk on headphones very loudly so as to drown out the noice of "crouching tiger hidden dragon" in the background. in the middle of idla, i get the great idea that after im done listening to music on the porch id go inside and seduce my girlfriend, and get her to have sexual intercourse with my in the doggy style position. rough wild sex that we would be screaming or heads off during. all the while, in the cd player is playing track 7-tigermilk "we rule the school." that would be positively absurd. somewhere inbetween the time i decide to go inside and actually do go inside, i decide to write an email. that way i could listen to the new radiohead, while stoned. that would be done before i attempt "the absurd act" this is the email that i decided to write. -jer disclaimer 1) i realize that this email is slightly immature, and not really as on-par funny as id like. but the reason why its absurd is because it came from me. i'm a kid whom in elementary school brought in my rock collection to show the class and teach them about igneuos rock. im a kid, in 7th grade quit french horn because i was th only boy playing french horn and the kids made fun of me. instead of going out with friends, i talked to my mum about music, and how i thought the song "ballad of peter pumkinhead" was really about jfk. she wasnt so sure. (she wasnt so brite) i talked to my dad about the cubs chances to win the world series. i listend to my brothers tape recordings of him doing immatations of our grandmother, and doing fake interviews with arnold shwartzenager. (they were hilarious) i stayed after class to talk to my science teacher about how ive heard of what he was talking about in class today from a L'engle book. "swiftly tilting planet" i believe. (mitochodria, farandolae all that good stuff) i took up wrestling to help with my adolescent aggressions and depressions. was a nerd who never went out on a date in highschool. was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder in college. sometimes skipped weeks of classes because of it. needless to say, i didnt do as well as i needed to to get a job in college. i got a 3.0 gpa. just graduated with a degree in agriculture and biological engineering. am unemployed. am rejected from all graduate programs i applied too. mainly because they were all psychology programs. eventhough my work in the field of visual search is soon to be published! eh, what can you do. i just think its funny that this person above wrote this email. disclaimer 2) amnesiac = good stoned disclaimer 3)if you are under the age of 18 and NOT jenowl, all of this email is not true. disclaimer 4)if you are llaura llew. the part about me having a girlfriend is not true. goodnight. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 12:18:20 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I remember Paris perfectly. The Germans wore grey, you wore blue Message-ID: <20010612111820.61202.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Ciao ragazzi/e What's Tim Burgess doing on the cover of Jonathan David? And why are B&S singing songs about Jewish bookshops? http://www.jonathandavidonline.com/ The fifteen minute rule isn't fair. First up, it isn't actually a rule and I'm not sure who invented it, but it somehow seems to have stuck. The other thing is that it discriminates against fast typers. A flashy 70wpm chick like me has to come up with twice as much interesting/amusing/completely pointless stuff as a 35wpm slow coach and it's not on. I prefer to think of Cliff Richard, myself, dressed in stripey leggings like in this picture http://www.sir-cliff.com/dist9.jpg Cor! I can't quite work out if calling your website sir-cliff.com. is a good or bad thing. Hang on, it's Cliff! Of course it's good! Another thing that's good is Camera Obscura. Their new video features Mr Cook and Ms Lander of this here parish, wearing silly glasses and straight faces in Struan's car. I'd have swooned if I were them. A couple of weeks ago, I went to Glasgow for a whole eight days! Glasgow's lovely. It has cheap record shops and pies. Cheap records don't drip grease all down your top when you bite into them, but pies sure as heck do! And then they give you heartburn and turn you cranky. I don't question Two-Ton Ted from Teddington's weapon of choice when he fought Ernie. One day, we left Glasgow early in the morning and went to the Isle of Arran, where we were accosted by flies and an oyster catcher whose nest Ally nearly trod on. I blame the oyster catcher. Who the heck lays eggs on a rock? Don't oyster catchers know you're meant to collect bits of twig and moss and those plastic things that hold beer cans together and build a nest? I also bought a Scottish tea time cookery book which has a recipe for tattie scones. I thought they were a breakfast time thing, not tea time, but never mind. English supermarkets don't sell tattie scones, you see. They only sell potato cakes, which are a lot thicker and go all puddeny when you fry them. Honey and Linda took us to a pub that has a book of rules! We weren't allowed to sit in the cat's chair or in the regulars' seats and we didn't know the special knock to get into the room for people who've been regulars for ten years or more. However, if you order the first Bloody Mary of the day you get it free and they make it properly with a stick of celery and everything. I bet they don't have a book of rules in the Saracen's Head. I'm going back to Glasgow on Saturday and I've never seen B&S before and it's going to be great, I know it is and and and! I am starting to get that night before Christmas feeling and have transferred all my B&S mp3s to one playlist so I can play them all at once in alphabetical order if I so desire. And I do, by gum! Juicy Lucy ps. a while ago, Alexander asked if Sinister was a land or maybe a town, but nay! It's a village, look here: http://www.move.to/sinistervillage ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Jun 12 22:02:00 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:02:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I didn't mean to slag America off, just that ****ing film... In-Reply-To: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277550C@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3B25B058.19689.887CB6@localhost> Bollocks to voter apathy. For a lot of people it's not a case of dissatisfaction with politics, it's just that they think their time is better spent sitting about scratching their bums than walking to the nearest school and deciding the future of their country. Even if you don't agree with any party, voting is one of the only times when you have the chance to stand in a "booth" and get the use that lovely word in a family situation, the only time you get to write with a genuine "Ballot Pencil" (that felt like 2B to me), and one of the few chances you have to go back to your primary school and be astounded by the low ceilings without being kicked out for looking shifty, like last time. It's better than scratching your bum. Mind you, I live near Kidderminster so things were a bit more exciting for us and our Independent MP, Dr Taylor. My mum has become distressingly millitant about the whole hospital thing and even stayed awake until half past two in the morning so she could scream at the telly when he won. It's good that Linda doesn't think much of Jonathan David. I agree more with David's mad eyed praise, but I think we should have more new-single-based arguments. They are fun. Let's have debates. Is Jonathan David really Stuart David's wee-free brother? Why does Stevie sing in a funny voice? Is the record a cynical attempt to sell more bibles? What will happen when Stuart Murdoch's voice breaks? Will he announce his intentions to become "the next Wogan" like Aled Jones once did? Is this actually a single or an EP? Where did I leave my teeth? Oh there they are! I ate far too many sardines this morning. Robin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 14:38:31 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:38:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Twink, the starsprinkles... Message-ID: Hewwo, Well, I've been in hospital, which was all lacking in swellness. I went to Fife, to get drunk and play football, only I never, because I got taken in to hospital cause I had tummy pains that were making me be sick and pass out. And I got this student doctor, who was really crap, and totally killed my arm when he stuck the drip thing in it. You should see the state of it. It took him three attempts to find a vein. So no one knew what was wrong and this junior doctor said "Hmm, cancer is a possibility", and I was pretty worried. You could tell he was the kind of prick who was so desparate to tell someone they had cancer so he could go back to his little mod friends and drink a cappuchino and say "It was so tough, I had to tell some kid they had cancer". What a weasel. He hit on Jaz and gave her his number. She threatened to dislocate his jaw, i think. Oh yeah and I was hallucinating from all the morphine they gave me, so I was pretty convinced that there were monsters coming after me. But it turns out that I don't have cancer. I have a thing on my ovaries which is like I tried to grow a person, but it didn't have any boy genes so it just stuck there with a load of people cells in a blob and made it hurt a lot. The first place I was in was a bit not grate. The nurses were totally insane, they used tohave games of tig in the corridors. Oh oh oh, and then they moved me to another hospital, but by then I was feeling better (ie, could walk and talk), and they wanted to give me an operation to take the thing out from inside me, but the doctor said that I might not ever have children, or something could go really wrong, cause I'm 15. And that was a worry, and then Jaz and Igor came in and made fun of all the sick people and brought me a stuffed rabbit called Crotchbunny, and it was nice. And the ladies i was in a room with were complete gimps and kept trying to tell me about their dihorrea and woke me up at 6.00 in the morning to talk about it and everything, and I got rather pissed off. And I told the doctor that i had to be out on friday (to see some band or other) and he said his sister had been to see them and they were good. And in the end I never had the op cause it was dangerous so they sent me home instead. So I'll be at B&S on Friday but please can nobody bump into to me if you don't have to , because there's still a little dead helf-person lump of evil cells trying to make me hurt. Only when I got in I had a few people to phone because igor told them I was dead for a laugh. But I can't wait now to see them, it's going to be grate. Oh oh oh and the lovely Ian Hatcher got me a Twink doll to cuddle and it's swell, and rainbow brite is the best thing ever in th whole world ever and I love shy violet. If you see a girl with lots of badges at the friday gig, it's me, so come and talk to me. Sorry this was boring, Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imnicolson at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 16:29:47 2001 From: imnicolson at xxx.com (Ian Nicolson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:29:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Into the Land of the Infidel (Dunfermline) Message-ID: Not many people have been posting gig reviews so far (obviously far too cool to do geeky stuff like that) so in an attempt to rectify this, and to make everyone else jealous, and because I'm at work and therefore have nothing better to do with the wonderous IT equipment here, I thought I'd try to write something about Dunfermline last night. Although I am useless at these things ('how was the gig, Ian?' 'Yeh, erm, good'), so you'll have to bear with me and my failing memory. It was with a spring in our step and a song in out hearts that we boarded the train for Dunfermline, for not only did we have the excitement of seeing Belle and Sebastian, but we also had to cross the Forth Bridge first. One of our number thought that it would be fun to dive off it, until it was pointed out that it was a notorious suicide spot. I think that put her off the idea. The Carnegie Hall is a typical small-town theatre type place, with a balcony and, er, a stage. And seats, of course. All of which seemed to be taken. I'd imagine they have a pantomime there every year. We managed to set up a little Sinister enclave before choosing to sample the glittering delights of Tiffany's Cafe Bar (candles! drink! hurrah!) and I managed to miss the Uptown Shufflers, which was a shame. I think. From what I could tell (which admittedly isn't much, as I didn't see them at all) they'd probably make more sense in smaller places like Dunfermline, than they will at the Barrowlands, say. But what do I know? Lollipops were kindly supplied by two lovely young Sinister girls. When our heroes came on Stuart claimed that they were all a bit tired. Three nights in a row is maybe a bit too much for the poor little petals, but I can't say that it really showed, apart from maybe a couple of missed lines, and a bit of an arsed up segue from 'The Boy...' into 'The Fox In the Snow', which he had to start again. The set was pretty much the same as Dunoon, except they missed Like Dylan in the Movies. The bastards. At their little break bit they seemed a bit confused as to what to do. I was half hoping, given the venue and everything, that the Great Suprendo (pif paf poof!!) might come on, but they ended up playing Time of the Season, complete with lovely tongue clicks and aahs from Sarah and Isobel. Again they seemed fairly relaxed on stage, making jokes and stuff, none of which I can really remember, cause I'm hopeless. They said something about the Two Ronnies at one point, and Chris showed off his local knowledge by mentioning Barbara Dickson. Stuart made some reference to drinking blood red wine in Dunfermline, which went over my head. Not the wine, the reference. Of the new songs I think I liked the one about the car bestest, as it mentions pussycats. One of them seemed to have a bit of an electronic beat thing going on, but I can't remember which. Stuart Gardiner asked about the hugeness of Isobel's arse, but she had a big fancy skirt on last night, so you couldn't really tell. And no one had brought a measuring tape anyway. Going home I noticed a couple of local neds who were confused by the number of biscuit nibbling, cardigan wearing freaks waiting for the Edinburgh train, which was nice. It's always fun to confuse neds. Lawrence from NZ asked about the soundtrack album. There were a couple of interviews in the papers last weekend with various members of the band and from what I can remember there'll be three real songs, some music and a few little jingles or something. They'd apparently written music for the whole film, but the director only wanted them to do half in the end. Sorry if this has been a load of garbled nonsense - I'm very tired today. I had to get up far too early this morning - all this working stuff is no fun. I'm sure someone else can write a far better review than this one. Ian N. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 17:15:43 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:15:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: anything's better than posh isolation Message-ID: i had a nice B&S moment last night outside of the little coffee shop where evryone pretends to go and do work, but really, it's just to participate in fun little coffee shop behaviors, like going outside to smoke cigarettes every five minutes, or to complain about how no meaningful poetry can get written under all that oppressive track lighting. . . anyway, i was engaging in the cigarette thing and thought i heard someone mention belle and sebastian. putting my usual shyness aside( b&s often do that for me) i started up a conversation with a very cute girl about how swell they are. nice to bond with someone about how great it is to dance to b&s while drinking. . or while doing most anyting else really. i had been feeling lonely in my love for them becasue people kept turning Tigermilk down at work and it was madening. told her about this fine mailing list, which actually means she might read this. ah well. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 17:36:45 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:36:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! Message-ID: (Imagine The Hodottir with hands over ears in an Eddie Murphy 'not listening!' way). Ian - I know you meant no harm, but I guess the reason no-one is discussing concerts yet is because not all of us have seen them yet (?!) Sorry to sound like a geek or a nark, but if you've seen the gig and the band were fab/bad/dressed like Roman gladiators/whatever, please don't mail the list yet - it might spoil the surprise. If, however, you're recommending we take sufficient supplies of Ribena and Mini Cheddars to snack on, that's fine. I suggest a rawkin' summit on July 6th - after the last gig. Yours, scared to read gig posts, Miss Ho x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Jun 12 18:07:52 2001 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:07:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: 1,2,3... Message-ID: Seconds and content: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4202379,00.html that is what I call flashy typewriting, Ms Alder.A pity there is no picture online, so unless one grabs the print copy of 'The Guardian' today, one misses to watch how the time goes by and does not affect Struan's cherub complexion,blimey. Among those who shall not have this chance, I feel particularly sorry for Genevieve Wesley. She would fully appreciate it,that inmaculate t-shirt,that BurtLancastrian poise,though I wonder whether she is still reading this as nothing else but her silence has honoured these untouchable pages since the days where the man previously known as David(Stuart) took by storm the most respectable bookshops in the island. Amidst this Genevieve-Disparue scenario, I shall be crossing an ocean (any _>blatant overuse of parentheses) for first time, my plane exactly pointing to the home land of this most arresting of the school pupils. Unfortunately, my mission is not the very exciting one of retrieving Gen's presence from the depths of some icy lake surrounded by majestically tall beeches, simply attending an international meeting related with work.However, if anyone else is going to ask me 'What-have-you-lost-in-Ontario?' as the question has been formulated one too many times, I seriously consider the possibility to answer 'We lost Genevieve Wesley',adopting a kind of 'Who killed Laura Palmer?' entonation. xxx Arantxa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Tue Jun 12 18:54:57 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:54:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! (and Dunfermline) References: Message-ID: <01f201c0f368$cae92800$0300a8c0@crockery> Hotdottir said: > Ian - I know you meant no harm, but I guess the reason no-one is discussing > concerts yet is because not all of us have seen them yet (?!) > > Sorry to sound like a geek or a nark, but if you've seen the gig and the > band were fab/bad/dressed like Roman gladiators/whatever, please don't mail > the list yet - it might spoil the surprise. Could I suggest that people posting about gigs mention this fact in the subject line? I am sorry, but I do want to hear about other gigs and many other people do as well, although I have observed that enthusiasm in recalling the gigs in #sinister is met with stony silence or expressions of pain, even hatred. Those who don't wish to find out about them can press that cute fluffy delete button. I don't want to wait until they have toured central America before I hear how Perth was (hint, hint). A Belle and Sebastian list where we don't discuss the only thing they have done for ages??? Tsk tsk. It does look as if they are changing their clothes between gigs. Whew! But not the set list (not so good...especially for the three Americans who are going to EVERY SINGLE GIG). They are the reason St*art faltered at the start of Fox in the Snow. He was self-conscious that they knew what he was going to sing and habitually sit in the front row. Bless them.#sinister Oh, and Jonathan David is an extremely good song. I have changed my mind. Stevie is now in tune. You heard it here first. Linda xx In loco parentis (maternis?) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Jun 12 18:56:44 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:56:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: fabulously beautiful bits of poo Message-ID: Eek, hello :) Ian Nicolson said: > Not many people have been posting gig reviews so far I went to Dunoon and Dunfermline, and scared as I am that no-one will remember me, I will peek out from my sinister hidey-hole and add a few bits to what's been said. Dunoon was so long ago I can hardly remember it but it was great! The beach was great too. We found dead crabs, worms with sand coming out of their bottoms, starfish and Linda forgot to say she found a pearl in a rockpool! Is this normal? It didn't have a hole through it so maybe it was real. Pearls are really just fabulously beautiful bits of poo in a way aren't they? I'll add a few Dunfermlinesqe bits to Ian's admirable account. During the "break", when the band decide to take requests, Stuart's supposed to have a little rest, apparently. Stevie is supposed to sing, and Stuart is supposed to sip cocktails. I am still not sure if the requests from the crowd are a setup, like someone bringing Uri Geller a particularly bendy spoon. Stevie didn't seem to hear the requests for Billie Jean last night, which is a pit because I was dying to see the walk. As Ian said, they did the Zombies "Time of the Season", which they confessed to sort of knowing (Sarah and Isobel certainly knew the clicks chick-ket-kah!). Stuart said they'd done it at that Scottish Socialist gig, so only the socialists in the band knew it. Chris, being a strict communist, didn't. It was very good. Stuart said after the song, as the management brought on a tray of non-alcoholic cocktails, that he felt slightly cheated because he was supposed to have had a rest. Beanz commented "you feel cheated, think how they feel" and gave us all one of his Beanzy looks. I really really really want someone to suggest they cover "Wombling Merry Christmas". Will you shout it out? I'm shy. We should all agree to shout out requests for the same song at the Glasgow or London gigs, just so we know if it's a setup or not. We will foil their dastardly plans (pesky kids, etc.). Spacestation Carey Lander said that watching the dixie support band, the Uptown Shufflers, was like watching an episode of Dad's Army. It was. A "faggy but nice" list member may have received a mysterious phone call last night at around 9pm that lasted about 3 minutes and had a scottish boy singing about a portrait in his backroom. Mark, we only did it to make you jealous. Oh and we met Shawn, Emily and Elias from the colonies, and Ms Vicky Voddypea and Steve, and Sophie, and Christopher Danke, who were all lovely. What's wrong with you all! You're supposed to be weirdo internet freaks! These concerts really are the best I've ever seen the band, quite honestly. They are all BIG smiles, having a great time, the new songs are fab, and I like the string section and kerrrazy little men from the Uptown Shufflers (Mick's pals) with trombones and susaphones who amble on stage to play "I Love My Car". Which is a FAB song! All the new songs are great, the band are tight, and FUN, Belfast Bob has a jawline, cheekbones and twinkly eyes to make a young girl sigh (sigh) and you will have a great time if you see them live. And if you don't, you will still have a great time! Because jigsaws are great too! (oops) People with an inclination to like the first two LPs of any given band then go right off them will see the string section, the ability to hit the notes at the same time and generally have fun on stage as confirmation of all they feared for the band's loss of integrity, so they will have a great time too. The new song with the tape loop is a steal of Leaving On a Jet Plane. It really is, but in a good way. Whoever said Carriage Clock was a steal of "I've Been To Paradise, But I've Never Been To Me" (the best song of the post-war period) was very quick off the mark: so true. Lawyers hover in the wings, biros poised. Incidentally, I've been undressed by kings, and I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see. Honey xxx Non-executive list mummy. P.S. Ms Genevieve Wesley has not disappeared, I can exclusively confirm. It was only last week she passed me a perfumed notelet in Double Maths. P.S. I just saw Ms Hottodir's plea for us not to mention the gigs after I'd written this. It took more than 15 mins, so, like Cliff Richard would, I am inclined to hit send, on the basis that none of us will have much to say after the UK tour is up and the early gigs are forgotten memories. Then there's the subsequent gigs they will probably do in Europe or the US. When will our silence end! We must have our pie and eat it. I look to the acting list mummy for a ruling. Oh yes. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 18:28:08 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:28:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Take your marriage pork, and shove it Message-ID: <3B3941FF@MailAndNews.com> Hello, For some reason I was led to believe that the new Belle & Sebastian single, Jonathan David, is out today... so I went to the record shop, and it wasn't there. I even went to Virgins and see if they have it in the new singles section, and it wasn't there. The people at Virgin looked at me as though I was going to buy the new Stereophonics single.. I got scared for a bit that they might think I'm an indie kid, so I moved my hand over to the Steps CD instead, and they looked away cos I was cool and mediocre again and don't like groundbreaking stuff like Stereophonics. Then I got back and Ian Nicolson said: >>When our heroes came on Stuart claimed that they were all a bit tired. Three nights in a row is maybe a bit too much for the poor little petals...<< They better not be fucking tired on the 15th and 16th, or I'll get Peacock Johnson onto his case. BTW the original name for Jonathan David was called "Johnson & David" but Sturan had to change the name cos Peacock phoned him up and said if they didn't change the name he'd "boot him up his fucking peacock". >>... complete with lovely tongue clicks.. from Sarah and Isobel<< Ok, that convinces me that going to the gig on Friday is a good idea and I should stand at the front row waiting for tongue clicking from Isobel. After drinking buckfast at the Saracen's head. Lucy Alder said: >> I bet they don't have a book of rules in the Saracen's Head.<< I bet they have a fifteen minute rule which says that you have to take at least fifteen minutes before getting served in order to phrase your order properly.. At least they have this rule in my Students Union bar, enforced by "the queue" which is an invisible force that governs everything from school lunches to the M25 motorway to hospitals. and JenOwl said: >>Well, I've been in hospital, which was all lacking in swellness...<< My friend went to hospital once after falling down the stairs in a club, his head was full of swellness. >>...But it turns out that I don't have cancer. I have a thing on my ovaries which is like I tried to grow a person, but it didn't have any boy genes so it just stuck there with a load of people cells in a blob and made it hurt a lot.<< I bet it is actually a ribena baby inside, if you drink so much ribena you're bound to spring a ribena baby. It's true.. ooh what are these feathery things growing on my back. I think I'm hallucinating too. Mental Illnesses and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ceasetocare at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 19:29:09 2001 From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:29:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: confusion about release date Message-ID: "For some reason I was led to believe that the new Belle & Sebastian single, Jonathan David, is out today..." I've had the same problem as Ken! When is the single going to be released? The Jeepster site and the band site both say June 18th, but Matador's site and virtually every online music store all say June 12th. I'm guessing that since Ken's already been to the store and found that it's not there . . . that the release date isn't until the 18th. But why are all these places advertising the 12th as the release date? - Megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 19:09:29 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:09:29 Subject: Sinister: Cliff would like it. That's what matters, right? Message-ID: Hello boys and girls. How are we all? Good. I'm okay. I had one of those days when little things make you quite pleased. I was eating a KitKat at lunch, and one of the fingers didn't have any biscuit in it and so it was just pure chocolate, which was actually a really nice surprise. Okay, I'll stop. I'm just writing to say a few things that I've been saving to put in one decently-sized post as opposed to lots of little possets of one-liners. David Moore said something about being surprised about liking the new SFA single. I too think it's absolutely fab - another new direction from those loveable chaps. I might be a bit biased though - I love the SFAs to bits. On the subject of new singles, I've just heard the new Cast <> single on the radio, and it's actually quite alright (cue the sound of 1000 sinisterines clicked delete simultaneously). They've gone funk! No jokes, they've got a sampled, looping brass hookline, and it sounds quite nice. I wouldn't spend �2.99 on it though. Unless it was on really nice vinyl... The new Beta Band record is also flipping brilliant, if you like the Beta Band. Ken and Megan - I too was tantalised on Monday by expecting to waltz into the VShop and pick up my copy of JD. I hate it when I do that. Has anyone else heard the advert on xfm for The Best Of The Smiths? It's got the Emperor John Peel talking over the top, but he sounds like he's trying to be really enthusiastic and !R!A!W!K!, but you can hear that in between every breath he's being shown a fat cheque just to keep him talking. It's really quite funny. Well I think so anyway. That's all really. Quite uneventful, although I think Cliff Richard would be interested, so I'll click send nonetheless. Only two weeks till the RAH gig, and I've got Kings Of Convenience before then, which will also be very very beautiful. I'm excited Right then, love to all... S.x P.S. Haven't heard much from Peter Carter recently. Just an observation. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 20:43:19 2001 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:43:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: A middle distance scunner? (Dunfermline) Message-ID: <2d.cf9c847.2857cad7@aol.com> Hello darlings Honey (who was utterly charming and lovely) said>> Oh and we met Shawn, Emily and Elias from the colonies, and Ms Vicky Voddypea and Steve, and Sophie, and Christopher Danke, who were all lovely. What's wrong with you all! You're supposed to be weirdo internet freaks!<< Ooh I've been name-checked on Sinister! It's enough to make even a fully grown (but not awfully mature) chap go all gooey and slightly moist. As reported by our front-line, battle hardened, combat correspondents 'twas an amazingly good gig, helped, I think, by the small but perfectly formed venue (and helped even more so by the wonderful Honey saving us good seats down the front) The only quibble about location is that it was rather hot and sweaty. I'm not being selfish here; think of the old bloke at the back of the stage be-suited and holding a tuba! Ian N said>>Into the Land of the Infidel << Being from Falkirk, I had assumed I had the monopoly on being all snooty about Fife! Back to the rambling gig-guide thang; I'd go with Honey on this one. The band did indeed seem all relaxed and loose whilst keeping the music tight. A chap at work from Dunfy had gone along out of curiosity and been blown away (and by the music too, not just in the toilet afterwards) Highlight of the night? Hearing VoddyVic declare that Mick had a "massive horn" One of the French variety, I hasten to add. Oh! almost forgot. I saw Mr A Cook as well but seeing as I had previously unwittingly opined that all Rangers fans were soap-dodgers and given that he looked quite hard, I simply smiled a lot :) A new record! My first sober post...will these wonders never cease? Love Steve S xxxx p.s Just thought about another venue Bad Thing; straight after the gig the lager went off and I was reduced to drinking Tennent's Velvet. Boo! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 20:55:42 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:55:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Buttocks. In a posh accent. Message-ID: <001501c0f379$abd306a0$89417ad5@oemcomputer> Heylo. Remember me? Thought not. Kinda returning from lurkerdom. For one nite only? I dunno - you be the judge and jury for that one. You're all growing up like lovely little kiddies always do. It's so cuuuuuuuuuuute... Looking forward to Jonathan David. Haven't heard it yet, because I want the experience for the first time in *ages* of actually rushing home with a great (grate?) band's new single, hurriedly sticking it in the player and going "aaaaaaahhhhhhhh" when it's as good as I hoped. I kinda spoiled Amnesiac for myself by having it 3 months in advance. It's good though. Better than Kid A. I still miss Radiohead being a guitar band though. Going both nights in Glasgow, so if you wish to bottle me, feel free ;) I notice a disturbing amount of listees are posting to Sinster *WHILST SOBER*!!! This must cease and desist immediately. If not sooner. You people are a lot funnier when you're semi-coherent. Yes, the is BACK! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! I'm 20 years old in a couple of weeks. July 5th to be exact. The prospect of this scares me shitless. I really hope I don't turn (a)normal or (b)responsible overnight.... I split up with my girlfriend last weekend. We'd been going out for 8 months, so it was a bit of a sad week. We're going together on Saturday, so if you see me looking wistfully at some girl on Saturday, that'll be her. Blah. Guess this means I'm single and available now. Jason Andreas is an eligable batchelor. Come and form an orderly queue, girls. *laughs* I'm kinda yawny. I've not slept for three days through all the emotional shit. Emotions are bad. I dunno how Emotion Eric can stand them. Meh. This wasn't exactly the huge explosion I wanted to make with a comeback, but bugger it, I'm here now. *cuddles* - Jase (http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas) (online diary, if you're bored enough...) http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonandreas/ or for some stories and poems http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonstories/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 21:42:23 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:42:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The horror! The horror! Message-ID: <005b01c0f380$320621c0$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk> "The king sits in Dumferling toune, Drinking the blude-reid wine: 'O what will I get guid sailor, To sail this schip of mine?'... ...Haf owre, haf owre to Aberdour, It's fiftie fadom deip, And thair lies guid Sir Patrick Spens, Wi the Scots lords at his feet." - The Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens. I believe that was the poem to which Mr. Murdoch referred, and very lovely it is too - a perfect ballad. So much so, in fact, that I hesitate to think of how I can adequately follow it with my own humble (hum-drum?) words. A poem of some 300 year vintage, written by that mysterious Anonymous, that amorphous hand of the common man, or perhaps the everyman. Or perhaps some poems are just born bastard children of the earth; nobody knows how they got here, or who they originated from, they materialise and endure as if by magic. Mistah Pinefox ("he dead") mentioned something about Douglas Hurd's jumpers. It reminded me of a bit from The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. Not where the cat rips the master of ceremonies's head off, though. I shan't go any further. If I did then this e-mail would contain more quotations than my own words, and that would be a prospect to horrible to accept. The idea that I'm becoming nothing more than someone who would do well on Mastermind, win the cut glass tureen, shake Magnus's withered hand (would I be cruel and try to crush it with my youthful, vice-like grip?), and shuffle back to a bedsit in Pinner to eat baked beans and feed an army of mangy cats is really quite disturbing. Not that I want to incite an argument, but I thought I'd say a few words about voter apathy. Perhaps it could be a nice kind of argument, where people become indignant with smiles on their faces, and pass custard creams around after having attacked somebody else's point of view. Nevertheless, I must say that the idea of voting being an intrinsic expression of freedom is a complete fallacy. Universal suffrage may once have symbolised the zenith of liberte, egalite and fraternite, but its meaning has changed. Politics and politicians have always devoted themselves to representing the interests of the voting public. It doesn't matter whether those with the vote are a percentage of 5 or 100. As it is now, the major political parties are nothing more than a hotch-potch of uninspired demagogues who will do anything if they think it will gain them votes. They reflect complacent, smug apathy far more than anything else, and are more responsible for maintaining the status quo, perpetuating prejudice, than any other group of people. To vote in an election is to give tacit consent to everything they stand for, which is anti-ideology, self-interest and manipulation. Except for Michael Portillo, of course. He is, after all, my benighted Minister of Parliament. I saw him once, walking down Kensington High Street. His little gimlet eyes were roving the street, undressing every young boy they saw. I could imagine him driving up to Holland Park in his Daimler, waving a wad of fifties under the nose of some Moroccan rent boy....... ....That was all getting a bit sordid and inflammatory, wasn't it? I've probably annoyed people - I didn't mean it. I'll purchase the custard creams, if you like. I'll even bring along my pack of rhubarb and custard sweeties. And I promise I won't say anythign more about politics. Or Timothy Mcveigh. Or Joseph Stalin (was his moustache real? I heard it was a fake, like Groucho Marx's). We can discuss something pleasantly neutral, like how beautiful it is when there's a thunder storm after a sultry, brooding day. Or how post-War art has consciously sunk itself in the consumer miasma, becoming nothing more than a reflection of transient, shallow trends in popular culture. Sorry, I'm going to shut up now. I do have nicer things to say. Pleasant stories of love and longing to keep us company through the night. I've been listening to Edith Piaf almost non-stop, and truncated French phrases I half understand are echoing around my brain. I'm not sure whether it is because she is actually good, or the associations I have attached to her songs. A girl with whom I am besotted gave me an Edith Piaf record in exchange for a tie and two weeks worth of silent pining. Is that a success for the shy legions of romance, who spend their time playing canasta and reading Keats, not sharpening swords on grinding wheels and eating raw meat? I'm not sure yet. She has gone to America for a fortnight. So Edith and I will be keeping a two week vigil. I really ought to stop now, I think, lest I become the Oliver Stone of Sinister - a fountain of over-long, vulgar displays of self-indulgence. Before I do, however, I would like to say one more thing about British politics. When I was walking to the shops a couple of days ago, I was thinking of the kind of campaigns that would be more appropriate for the various politicians. I would like to see Ann Widdecombe balance bottles of wine on her not inconsequential mammaries, or use them as ad-hoc dry ski slopes for field mice. Then William Hague could actually dress up at The Hague and...no, enough. Another idea that was better in my brain than in the real world. So it always is. Thoughts full of promise that enter the world little more than deformed runts. Now I really will end it all. Pills, razors, or the send button? But I would like to end on a happy note. There has been some mention of Sir Cliff Richard recently, and it made my little heart trill with happiness because, because, because, I saw him a couple of weeks ago, L-I-V-E, at the Royal Albert Hall. No, that's an embarrassment, isn't it? I think I was the only one under 45 there, and certainly the only one not wearing enormous shoulder pads, with a platinum blond rinse. It was my day off, you see. Enough. Goodbye. Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 22:25:34 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:25:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: JD Message-ID: <20010612212845.KNVN290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.98.118]> There is someone at my school called JD. This stands for Jonathan Dean, though and he is a complete and utter not very nice person. Dunoon sounds happy. Jonathan David sounds sad. As a person who has just realised that the girl I like doesn't hate me but doesn't exactly like me either and that one of my friends also likes her and she likes him I feel great empathy with the song. Nobody will tell me if they are going out together as when I first realised that she didn't like me I went into decline. I'm certain that they are going out. Maybe that's my paranoia but I'm just sure they are. She's called Jo (like me) and she's wonderful...(gaze dreamily into distance). I made a Belle and Sebastian convert. I was walking along with a friend and he has a little portable radio which he uses to listen to the cricket. The cricket wasn't on and we felt like listening to something so we listened to Radio 1 with me crouching down in a rather uncomfortable way due to me being much taller than him.. There was a dance/trance track which he loved on and I walked along with one headphone in my ear, slagging it off and all trance music with it. I said that I couldn't stand it and gave him back his headphone and a minute later he said that there was an amazing song on so I groaned and took a listen only to find that it was Jonathan David. He said it was really good and I started singing along to the bits I knew, embarassing him a lot. All the same, I feel proud of myself for showing him the wonder of B&S. What does "Yer Maw?" mean? It is on the little questionaire thing in the new Mogwai album and I reckoned it was scots so I thought "Sinister!". A girl I know ignored me in the street on Friday. I was really hurt. She is called Anastasia (It's not as bad as it sounds, she's half Russian, her surname occupies 2 lines on her passport and is completely unpronouncable it's like Chzeschovnyknaopovlaskovinidostlavsky) and she seemed to like me. But she doesn't. I don't even know why not. People have stopped telling me stuff. People think that the fact that they all had or went to parties on the weekend and no-one invited me will make me feel inadequate. It does but even more so that they won't tell me. I have a friend who doesn't get invited either so I just hang around with him a lot. He gets told about what they did and he tells me which is nice of him. I am beginning to hate everyone I know. Yours, with love for sinister as it never hurts me, Joe PS I'm sorry for the self-pitying qualities of this e-mail. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thepris at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 22:52:50 2001 From: thepris at xxx.com (Priscila Moura) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:52:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Baby sinisterine goes to Aberdeen! Message-ID: Hello everyone I'm new! And so glad to FINALLY have a voice on the list (I won't go into it, but it's taken me forever and has been deeply frustrating). I'm overjoyed at having found sinister, it's been two years since I've been looking for other B&S lovers ever since I first heard BWTAS at my local gym (what a cool gym!)and I've only found a couple. And I'm all excited and jumpy at the prospect of seeing them on my birthday (28th)for the first time on thurs 14th in Aberdeen. Nevermind it's probably the furthest venue from London, I'd go to China, I swear to God! So is anybody else going? I've already managed to join forces with one other, if anybody else would like to get in touch they're more than welcome to. Ooh, I can't wait! See you there, Priscila. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Tue Jun 12 23:27:08 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:27:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: confusion about release date References: Message-ID: <001701c0f38e$d1a793e0$8624a5d8@udrtg> A lot of people have their panties all in a bunch because they thought the new single was out today, but it wasn't. That's because you live in the wrong country. Move across the pond, and you get Belle & Sebastian singles a week early. I just got mine. I'm listening now. Americans may go to the record store now. Brits stay home for a week. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mattwardfhnn at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 23:48:07 2001 From: mattwardfhnn at xxx.com (Matthew Ward) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:48:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: single Message-ID: My copy of the single shipped yesterday (CDNow ships a day before the release date), and Amazon lists the release date as today as well. Maybe the US release date is earlier than the British date? Anyway, I went by the local Best Buy and they didn't have it in stock (it took them a month to get Legal Man in last year). Anyway, hope that helps the confusion. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ojh9 at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 00:09:23 2001 From: ojh9 at xxx.uk (Jonathan Howell) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Do you enjoy mopping? References: Message-ID: <006901c0f394$b87ec900$db747ad5@g> Hello again. I haven't posted for a while, but not much has been going on. I thought of something I'd like to write today, but it got a little long in the writing. Unless you're in a kind and indulgent mood then please don't read past the barrier, which is made up of three *s, instead just move on to whatever comes next in your life. Content(?): How do you all feel Jonathan David compares to Legal Man. One of my friends who loves legal man sent me a message yesterday saying that he'd heard the new offering and (to quote him) 'oh dear'. Now not that I didn't like Legalman, but personally I think Jonathan David is far better... It also has better B-sides. I think I could agree with idleberry on this one, as I might even prefer the B-sides to the single. [Hey, is it small 'i' when it's idleberry and large when it's Idles?, or should I not pay attention to such things?] Christians: Is it me or are they bad at grammar. One of my friends assures me that WWJD stands for 'What Would Jesus Do'... why, he'd use a question mark, that's what he'd do. She let me tippex a question mark onto her bracelet (thingy) but it went wrong and ended up as a bit of a blob instead. I'm not sure she was too impressed. Perhaps it should stand for 'We Whistle Jonathan David' or something. Thanks muchly for the gig reviews... they've been cheering me up. On with the stuff... Love (gift-wrapped, with a card and on your doorstep when you get home). Jonny. *** You might think me mad... but today I had a conversation witth a weed, and then I did my best to kill it. I'm not proud of this, this isn't me going "Hey look at me, I'm hard, I can kill plants", in fact it's quite the opposite, it's a sort-of-confession thing. Before I begin, I'd like to write a little (just a little) on talking to weeds. This isn't something I've done before, it wasn't even something I expected to do, it just sort of happened. Several theories have been suggested... perhaps I'm ging mad, perhaps I was just a little bored, or perhaps I really did talk to the plant. Of course these theories have come only from me; I'll be damned if I'm going to be telling any people who I have real-life contact with anything like that. The weed was loitering with intent outside my new place of work (a well known DIY store) in my home town of H-. It had hanging about there for a while, it looked fairly menacing. I clearly wasn't the only person who'd noticed it because my boss mentioned it. "J-." He said "I'd like you to get rid of the weeds around the carpark". So, I pulled on my armour of gardening gloves, picked up my trusty trowel and marched into battle. As I dispatched the weeds one by one, I noticed one little fellow trying to grow out of the concrete, between the road and the wall. This of course isn't the best place for a weed to grow... it doesn't provide much soil or water, and I felt quite sorry for the little guy. 'Little weed' I thought to myself 'Why do you grow there, in such a horrible place? Surely you'd be better growing somewhere else.' Then to my utmost surprise I heard him answer. 'Why, but it isn't horrible, it's my home'. 'Yes, but little weed, If you grow there I shall have to pick you. Then, if you grow back, next week I'll have to pick you again. Doesn't that make it a silly place to grow?' I suggested mentally. 'A silly place indeed' the plant replied 'but you see, I have no choice but to grow here, this is where my roots have settled, and I'm utterly incapable of moving. I will die if I leave here' Now I realised that we were at an impass. 'Oh, but I have no choice either. I have been told to pick you, and pick you I must. If I don't then I shall lose my job'. Then I plucked the little weed (or as much of it as I could) out of the ground (his wee roots remained). As I did this the weed said one last thing. 'Really? So will you die if you don't pick me?' and he said it with total bitterness, which was a surprise as his tone had been very polite before. I realised later that the weed was right. I wouldn't have died if I hadn't picked him... in fact I doubt my boss would have minded just the one stray weed. More importantly... He isn't a weed in his own eyes. He's only a weed to us, because we don't like him and don't want him to be there. Is it really his fault that we decided to put a DIY store there? Perhaps in his mind we're the weeds. I looked into the plastic bag I was carrying (now a cemetary of dead weeds) and resolved that if a little weed grows back in that spot (where his roots remain even now) then I shall not kill him, for he has no choice. As for the others, I know it won't kill me to not pick them, but I really would like to keep my job. Besides, I'm not entirely sure that any of them have feelings like that other little weed. Perhaps I could ask for someone else to do the gardening next time. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 01:33:46 2001 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Samiam Green Eggs And Ham) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:33:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: cause offense by the way i look Message-ID: Regarding the subject of nerdy girls, I see nerdy girls at this britpop thingy in Wash DC every month, but I still think you're probably on point to some extent. This may explain why there aren't many "geek" girl bands. Sammy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Tue Jun 12 21:02:40 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:02:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oh, I forgot... Message-ID: <003901c0f37a$b2d77c00$89417ad5@oemcomputer> Sorry to do this, but it's a kinda desparate plea... Did *anyone* tape the Feeder gig that was on ITV last night? If you did, *please* mail me off-list about it. I would be forever in your debt. Sorry for annoying list-abuse... - Jase (http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas) (online diary, if you're bored enough...) http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonandreas/ or for some stories and poems http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonstories/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tp218 at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 05:36:50 2001 From: tp218 at xxx.uk (tomatron) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:36:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: la la la, my life is really interesting, oh yes... Message-ID: well now, i appear to be writing an email at 5 in the morning. i wonder why, hmmm? ah... i'll have got my results from my finals today, then. i'll probably be drunk, or something. the trouble is that, despite getting a really quite good mark given my complete lack of work, i now have absolutely no respect for the subject i spent the last year studying. as the lad marx (groucho, i think, not karl) in no way said, i wouldn't want to study any subject that i could do well in. no academic standards, see?...no wonder this country's going to the suburban dogs. i think i'm going to be sleeping on the beach in scarborough come the 26th; nah, really, if anybody knows how to get back to (say) leeds from there post-gig, me and my pal charlie would be most grateful. /somebody/, please... i've kind of gotta be back in the cambridge area the next day to, er, graduate... (still, i'm sure it's a lovely beach to sleep on) bought vinyl copy of "ant music" single today from a charity shop. the oldish lady behind the till started stroking it and saying how much she used to love him. she then took it out of the sleeve and started staring at it in raptures, running her hands around the grooves and saying how she thought they were amazing. it was several minutes before she actually let me have the bloody thing. i felt like i was tearing her baby from her bosom, and ironically* it wasn't even a baby i could listen to 'cos i haven't got a baby player, i just wanted it for the thrill of posession and the nice cover the baby had. [sometimes a metaphor can be stretched to far, i feel, and that includes words and sentences, which are essentailly just very oblique metaphors for the things they represent. maybe.] a metaller friend of mine was quite annoyed tonight when i played him Lazy Line-Painter Jane and he inadvertently liked it, not realising who it was. is it just me or is there a minor revival of the (subjectively, i admit) wonderful band menswear going on? a man told me that love is overrated as an ideal and underreated as a practicality, and i'm wondering if is should believe him. another good friend has recently has a complete mental breakdown following a violent psychotic episode last weekend, and we've no idea when or if he'll get better or how he is right now. i have run out of cigarettes. life appears to go on, despite (or perhaps because of) all this. oh dear, i seem to have written one of those long inconsequential rambling posts that i've just deleted about a hundred of 'cos my disk's getting full and which i swore to myself i'd never write... fuck. sty btfl, tm (BA) *in no way ironic, and i hate it when people misuse that bastard word... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jun 13 09:40:14 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:40:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Manuscripts Don't Burp: A Life in Letters and Diaries Message-ID: <003801c0f3e4$c5e9c9a0$2062253e@itjfvkli> >From The Master and Margarita: "No, no, hegemon," said the prisoner, straining with the desire to convince. "This man follows me everywhere with nothing but his goatskin parchment and writes incessantly. But I once caught a glimpse of that parchment and I was horrified. I had not said a word of what was written there. I begged him- please burn this parchment of yours! But he tore it out of my hands and ran away." Many people have claimed to have foreseen the Internet, Pete Townshend for instance, but I think Mikhail Bulgakov came pretty close with the above paragraph. Still, there's nothing we can do about it now, is there? I agree with Mark C that it's getting harder to write to Sinister. Who's interested in whether or not I think PF stands for Poo Face? Who cares that there's a picture of Seymour Stein in PLEASE KILL ME and that the word WARONKER has appeared in every single review of the new REM album? That's right, the same number of people as before - three, give or take one or two. Honey mentioned BILLIE JEAN - did you know that next year Michael Jackson's THRILLER album will be twenty years old? It doesn't bear thinking about. But I often think about things that don't bear thinking about. I've been listening to the album a lot lately. Becasue I bought it. It's pretty good I think. BILLIE JEAN is faultless, sounds like it was recorded yesterday. WANNA BE STARTIN' SOMETHING is like a SMILE-era Beach Boys outtake, whose toytown guitar solo surpasses its more famous cousin from Eddie Van Halen on BEAT IT for sheer stoopidity. I give the album 8 out of 10. Thanks for all the concert reviews, it's almost like being there. I reckon people who shout for SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL stand a good chance of being satisfied by Stevie. I hear the Saracen's Head have got a special promotion on this weekend - a free Ribena dash in your Buckfast! Get there early to avoid disappointment. Peter MIller Baix Llobregat +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 10:09:18 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:09:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The horror! The Fun! In-Reply-To: <005b01c0f380$320621c0$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk> Message-ID: <200106130909.f5D99Ic00937@mail.redbricks.org.uk> Ruvi Simmons said: > I must say that the idea of voting being an intrinsic expression of freedom is > a complete fallacy. Universal suffrage may once have symbolised the zenith > of liberte, egalite and fraternite, but its meaning has changed. Politics > and politicians have always devoted themselves to representing the interests > of the voting public. It doesn't matter whether those with the vote are a > percentage of 5 or 100. As it is now, the major political parties are > nothing more than a hotch-potch of uninspired demagogues who will do > anything if they think it will gain them votes. They reflect complacent, > smug apathy far more than anything else, and are more responsible for > maintaining the status quo, perpetuating prejudice, than any other group of > people. To vote in an election is to give tacit consent to everything they > stand for, which is anti-ideology, self-interest and manipulation. i couldn't agree more. it annoys me when people say, 'but people died for you to have the vote!' NO, they didn't. people died in wars because they were told to go and fight, because they had very little choice. and even if they DID choose to go and fight, surely they died for democracy. and we don't have democracy in this country. is it democracy when the 3 main parties all stand for roughly similar things - exploitation of working people through capitalism - and the only part of the electorate that either labour or the tories aim their policies towards are those who live in marginal seats. and is it democracy when labour wins with a landslide with only 25% of the electorate voting for them? rule your own lives on to funnnier & happier topics. i had a great (i REFUSE to say grate - why do people do it?) night last night. me & a group of friends had been given a tip off about a private function. there was a fire garden display thingy, with 2 characters dressed up & running around like loonies setting fire to things. then there was a huge firework display. afterwards 3 of us followed the suits back into the building & found the room where there had been a posh meal & there was still lots of wine all over the tables, so we drank a few glasses, grabbed a few bottles, and tried to look inconspicuous. we failed on the last bit, but totally succeeded on the other two! hurray for free wine! catch you all later, antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 10:22:08 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:22:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: Why oh why? Message-ID: <32.16520de6.28588ac0@aol.com> Hmm. I have a humble little mailing list, called Random, of maybe about a dozen people. It's less of a mailing list than it is more a close group of friends talking to each other through the nifty little device dubbed e-mail. I sent out an email warning everyone to go pick up a copy of Jonathan David on June 18, because that's when I thought it came out. But thanks to someone (I forget her name, I'm terribly sorry) on the list who was boasting of the fact that she lived "across the pond" (the expression she used), she was able to get her hands on the single a week early. Of course, as soon as I realized my horrible mistake, I went and sent out another email, thus making me sound like a dunce. None of this would be relevant, except my favorite person was on that list (not that he's a close friend of mine, I just thought he'd be interested to know about the new Belle and Sebastian single. He's not a very devout follower), and he probably thinks I'm... really quite scatter! ! brained. Which wasn't the impre ssion I was hoping to make. Hmm. Someone apparently has a (list) crush on me. I received the email today, it made me feel all glowy and happy inside. "warm fuzzies", I think they're called... And for those of us who resort to mp3 formats of songs (due to lack of money/inaccessibility to good music caused by location of residence, et all), hurray, winmx is almost as good as, if not better than, napster. (thank you, john hunt!) I want some Belle and Sebastian-y things to decorate my room with. There's a Matador poster on ebay that's selling for $20.50. It's got a gigantic 10 in the middle with every single release matador ever, well, released. (I want it, I want it, I want it...) Of course, because of my lack of funds, I shall resort to making my own collage... Which should be fun. Eh.. I just realized I am extremely hungry and have no more of interesting things to say. The only human contact I've had for the past 5 days was with my parents. You'd be a boring person, too. Cheers +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_milton at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 11:47:53 2001 From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a complete and apocryphal history of my life (or not) Message-ID: <20010613104753.39649.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi guys... I have many nuggets of information... First thing first, and MOST IMPORTANTLY! I'm going to see Belle and Sebastian on Saturday... Wah Hey!!! I feel that one of the best gigs of my life has been creeping up behind me and is now waiting to clobber me with a wet fish! I cannae wait! I've even managed to get the WHOLE day off work so I can come along to the picnic. Talking of which, can Alisdair, or ANYONE email me off list, the details of the picnic cause I managed to delete alisdair's original message. ARRGGHH I'll see you guys there. But Before that... Tonight! Troika! 13th Note Cafe 8:30PM (or there abouts) �2 playing with HOUSE, and THE DAMN QUAILLS Come along and laugh at me... a fun night will be had by all. Another thing that I'd be VERY grateful if folk would help me out with... There are over a thousand mbrs (oops there is my aol tech rep abbreviations coming thru) of this list and I'd be grateful if at least a hundred of them could go along to the following link and please please please please please sign the petition... even if you don't know me and you never expect to ever meet me I will appreciate it. A couple of list members have signed it so far but you guys could so help the cause..:-D I apologise if anyone thinks this is blatent list abuse. I guess it is.. but this issue is very important to me. And it could help you guys (specifically the ones of you who are in bands) in the long run. http://www.petitiononline.com/troika/petition.html lastly... a wee story... I went to avalanche in glasgow on friday, and I attempted to buy the VERY first gentle waves single on 7" for �15! The day before, the bastard had sold! Damn I thought! I should have bought it when I saw it! Flicking thru my mate Niall's fanzine (Homegrown) I noticed he was selling the very same 7" for �6 A SAVING of �9 no less!!! The moral of the story... don't be too disappointed when you miss out on something... it may come back to you in better circumstances.. :-D anyway.. I gotta go... Jenowl.. I hope you're better soon... Amy... love ya... xxx CU on Saturday Neil.x. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton at yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 14:56:30 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:56:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nasty man Message-ID: Hello everybody, I thought some of you might be interested to hear what our favourite fat boy Steven Wells has to say about the Jonathan David single. Don't read it if you're a proper twee person, you might cry. 'So you're walking through the woods minding your own business when suddenly you stumble across a teddy bear's picnic. Aww! So cute and furry and cuddly! But then one of the bears spots you and points a blunt paw and soon all the bears stare in your direction with their horribly emotionless glass eyes. And you s**t yourself. And that's Belle and Sebastian and their sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans in a freaky nutshell. Anyway, what about the music? If this gaggle of spectacularly inoffensive semi-songs were 10 per cent more tuneful, they'd be the sort of dross that Neil Finn (formerly of Crowded House) casually sticks in the bin on his occasional bad days. And if they were 10 per cent crapper then the sad probability is that B&S would probably have been accidentally rounded up and shot in the f**king head by MAFF slaughtermen ages ago under the erroneous impression that they were sick sheep. An easy mistake to make.' I haven't heard it yet but I'm almost certain it can't be that bad ;-) Eeek, two days till Glasgow. Please keep writing gig reviews, because they've been so enthusiastic it's making me even more excited about going to see them. Honey and Linda have been singing the praises of Belfast Bob and his lovely face-at first I thought he was a girl in the pictures, whoops. Sometimes I suprise myself with my silliness. I'm sure he's very handsome in the flesh though, I trust the list mummies. I hope this e-mail has the required number of *s to make it through, I've been in trouble once already today for trying to send an e-mail with rude words in, tsk, tsk. See some of you in the park on Saturday for the teddy bears picnic, or will there just be super cool knitted dollies there? I hope so. Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 14:04:13 2001 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:04:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: this heat is wilting my wings... Message-ID: hello sinister sweethearts, it's the grumpy canadian angel again... :) actually not so grumpy just in a bit of a daze. the heat here has been unbearable, especially since i don't have a/c. bf surprised me with buying an a/c last night...too bad it don't quite fit in the window. i had to leave the apartment as i had visions of said little bf dropping an appliance out the window and hitting someone. we've figured out how to install it without it killing someone, so my kittens should be happy by the end of the week. (they're just melting, poor little things) i was actually a little inspired to write this morning...as i've been doing absolutely nothing of late, except sit on my ever expanding ass in this mind numbing job of mine...master jonathan howell wrote of talking with a weed that was growing in a parking lot at his work...i thought it was a lovely post. we have two considerably larger plants growing outta concrete in the alley behind my apartement. one is a large tree and the second is an old wisteria plant growing up the wall. both of these poor souls have been paved over and one wonders exactly how they survive. I'm glad they are both there and i talk to them all the time, they just look displaced. i'm having rediculous bouts of shydom again...i walked all the way down queen street to rotate this to get from montreal and clientele tickets...apparently from montreal couldn't get across the border or something and had cancelled and hence the girl wouldn't sell me a ticket. i got my clientele ticket but as i walked past the rivoli i saw that they were still advertising from montreal playing...but stoopid ass me was both too scared to go into the rivoli and ask if from montreal was indeed still playing or to anonymously phone them and ask...and my feet nearly fell off from walking all the way down past bathurst, cuz the streetcars were full and i don't like being in crowds...i'm just silly i know, but it gets frustrating... anyway, i'm going in search of the new single tonight, cuz, honestly i forgot to look for it last night while in rotate this... i think i will go get ribena tonight as well, it goes so well with rum... love and ken chu kisses... a. ___________________________________________________________________ The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories." -Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ettirgam at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 15:35:46 2001 From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20010613143546.21288.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Ordinarily, I would try to catch up on the messages, but I think I might drown if I try. Instead I shall rant. Yesterday was horrid, nearly pure evil. Not only was work a complete and total terror, but the drivers on the way there seemed as if they actually did want to end my life, and I don't even live in Boston where people just naturally drive like that. Oh, but I nearly yelled at a superior. He deserved to be yelled at, but I like my job on most days. Anyway, the man is balding, wears a rather thick gold chain, keeps his always tacky shirt open far too much, and is just rude to most people. And yesterday I couldn't take it. Afterwards, I was ready to fight though. I miss my boss, he wouldn't let that happen, but he deserves a vacation I suppose. And all my officemate could do was laugh and then ask me questions about "Fight Club." Then I return home to the thought that the night might be pleasant. I talk to my best friend online, only to have her try and make me feel guilty about her journey to Japan. If she was going for herself, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but she is following a man who will only break her heart, and I am just rather tired of picking up the pieces. And picking up the pieces while she's in Japan and I'm in California makes it miserable. I don't think I can do it this time. Maybe the friendship is feeling the test of distance, which is strange because another friend of mine is in Mongolia, and we have never been closer. So, I decided to go to my room and write, but I couldn't write. All I did was think about how miserable I was because of the day's events. Then I tried to read, but books on pesticides are not very uplifting. So, I went to bed with Tigermilk playing, and woke up to it as well. Maybe today will be better. Anyway, I do remember an email regarding, I think it was, "Pearl Harbor." All I can say is that the movie was so forgettable and so boring that I am really doubting the existence of the grand Hollywood epic. Nothing is grand in Hollywood. And I do not know how to feel about Sigur Ros appearing in all of my record stores. If the record stores in Stockton, California have the album, I am terrified for the band. I was already worried about the amount of Belle and Sebastian I found, but I have noticed that no one has touched the section except me when I check to see if it has been touched. And the true travesty is that "Swordfish" is the new number one movie in America. Haven't people learned that John Travolta movies aren't really worth much lately? Am I the only one who remembers "Battlefield Earth?" Take care. Marikka. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 15:41:46 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:41:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: beautiful only slightly mental Message-ID: <3B277BAA.50F54331@camb.linst.ac.uk> one for all and all for one, well, arn't i a jibbering wreck at the moment, it's funny how the older you get the scaryer everything becomes, from seeing the grange hill kids all grown up, to realising that i will never get a job ever. yes, i had a hellish assesement, which i wont go into but basically, they hated my t-shirts(even though they are fab) and i cried. I blame you all because its this bloody site that im addicted to, i may have to pull out next year and get my head down. Im just writing to tell you that i dreamt of B&S the other night, they did a gig at the basement of C&A (what a coincidence) amonst the knickers and coats, there were violins and stuart wore shades and looked a bit twatty. And yes that is really it, no form, no context, middle or end, i bid you goodnight and hope this isnt the beginning of my decline. hannah "the cat sitting in the corner, a drinking and a thinking about how his live was spent, and then he'd fly, fly in to a rage, because his mind became delayed and he'd start accusing everyone that he'd been betrayed" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daragh_lynch at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 15:44:38 2001 From: daragh_lynch at xxx.com (daragh lynch) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:44:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister: camera... Message-ID: hi everyone, just a really quick question: do you think it'd be ok to bring a digital camera to the aberdeen show tomorrow night? or would it be taken away at the door? some photos would be nice though... love, daragh ps. see you all on sat. at the glasgow picnic _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bipedalboy at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 15:44:35 2001 From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:44:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: am i your jonathan to your david? Message-ID: <11b.3c10ca.2858d653@aol.com> well, g-morning to everyone, im smiling today listening to the NEW B&S CD!!! its quite lovely. it was such a surprise to find it yesterday and it came with a nother surprise (not the cd but what yesterday offered:) i met a fellow toy design student in san fran, which is odd due to the fact the school is located in nyc?!?!?! well, it was nice to meet a familiar face and acquire another wonderful cd from B&S... did you know? -"in late 1952 an unknown san francisco hobbyist entered a craft master paint by number still life in local art contest. the painting, a cubist collage entitled abstact no. one, took third prize. not until the end of th day was it revealed to be the product of a kit; the judges, too embarrasses, refused comment" from the book "the how-to craze that swept the nation PAINT BY NUMBERS" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daragh_lynch at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 15:44:38 2001 From: daragh_lynch at xxx.com (daragh lynch) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:44:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister: camera... Message-ID: hi everyone, just a really quick question: do you think it'd be ok to bring a digital camera to the aberdeen show tomorrow night? or would it be taken away at the door? some photos would be nice though... love, daragh ps. see you all on sat. at the glasgow picnic _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 18:47:52 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:47:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Look away now if you don't want to know the score- Perth Gig Review Message-ID: A mile and a half on a bus from dundee to perth takes a very long time... especially as the bus in question decided to go round and round one little village three times... As a girl from a rural town I should appreciate the importance of public transport stopping in these little towns... but having moved to the bright lights of dundee I was impatient and wished the bus would just take the dual-carriage. On a night like this I wasn't in the mood for the scenic route and I glared angrily at people getting on at the million stops inbetween... The night of this criminal time wasting bus journey was in fact the 11th of June and a little known scottish band called belle and sebastain were playing at the the City hall... i know that they are little known because a couple of gentlemen passing by the queue asked who we were waiting for and when I replied belle and sebastian they laughed and said "never heard of them"... They looked like the type of gentlemen that you could trust to have good taste in music as well... Perth town (as according to the bus driver), city (as according to my tickets) hall was big and dark with round lights decorating the ceiling... I think at the time I thought it seemed like a very nice hall but my mind was not really concentrating on the architecture too well... The uptown shufflers shuffled stage on at 8.00 and were met with some enthusiasm... in particular Jackie who seemed to have developed quite a loyal fan base since Dunoon. The looks of amusement and bemusement that they encountered from the audience were replaced by smiles and cheers when they finished up with a song from the jungle book. And then they left leaving much restless anticipation... argghh!! Honestly how is any person supposed to wait patiently watching roadies setting up instruments? The band appeared on stage and started with le pastis and from then on the set was the same as Dunoon... "I'm feeling quite talkative tonight" said Stuart... and it seemed he was... At the time he was standing up ready to play guitar or sing or something like that. He was not at his piano as dictated by the set list. "I just wanted to see Stevies' reaction" And as well as this talkativeness the band in general seemed to be enjoying themselves. Stuart sang "I missed the ferry last night" during the boy with the arab strap. And his converstaion with Stevie as to what Johnathan and David was about left me wanting to know more than ever: "its personal" stevie said with a coy smile... During the break in the set Stevie sang the sun has got his hat on elvis costello style... now I'm really quite sure this wasn't a request from the audience. It was very funny nonetheless... Strangely enough one of the biggest cheers of the night was for the reappeance of the uptown shufflers... "we will be supporting them by the end of the tour" So apart from all of this what did they sound like? Brilliant of course... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 19:42:55 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:42:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: muscly lips and Dunfermline bits Message-ID: Um, hello. There might be a bit about Dunfermline below, so don't read on if you don't want to. In fact, I just want to say that the Dunfermline gig was luuuuuurvely in all the best ways. I hope this doesn't make the rest of you all *too* jealous. There didn't seem to be that many list people there, though, mostly just all the other people who have already posted to say how lovely it was. Oh, and there was some woman from Birmingham, too. ListMummyLinda said that Belfast Bob was cute. She is right, as usual. Then again, *all* the band are cute in one way or another. Well, they are if you ask me. (you can tell i'm still excited that I've seen Belle and Sebastian play live, can't you! even two days later! Woooo!) (WOOOOO!) Incidentally, I discovered that my bee-atch flatmate is *scared* of Sinister people! I had an extremely Sinister person stay over in my spare bedroom after the gig, and my flatmate hid as soon as she heard us come in the door. Afterwards, she kept asking things like "were they psychos, then?" I shouldn't have told her that the person in question came from Falkirk; that probably made it worse. Yes, the old man with the Sousaphone is cute, too. I preferred the clarinettist, though, cos I'm one myself. Well, i used to be. My lips are all slack now, though. I thought it was a shame that lots of people stayed in the bar during the support act -- OK, you *might* have spotted me there yourself, but I only nipped out for a minute to buy some badges. The funny thing is that the flatmate is scary herself. Well, I'm scared of her. She takes advantage of my gullibility to make me lend her money. She has none of her own, cos she's too much of a lazy-assed bee-atch to sort herself out and tell the student loans people to stop taking it off her. Sorry, I'm ranting. I shall have to get a Proper Job, then I can start dropping hints that she moves out. Lots of people keep saying they're going to the Picnic on saturday. So many, I'm scared and I might not go myself. I'll be terrified. If i do go, though, i'm going to bake some cookies. Don't touch me if you're allergic to nuts or something. I amused myself, getting off the train at Dunfermline Town station, trying to spot all the gig-going people who didn't have a clue where they were and what way to go. I wanted to shout to them all: "The Carnegie Hall's *this* way!" I think some of them might have followed us anyway -- not only were we *obviously* B+S fans, but we looked like we knew where we were going! Playing the clarinet *does* give you muscly lips, honestly. Gah, I wish I had them all nicely toned still. Don't touch me if you're a vegan, either. I use butter when i'm baking. She's nasty to the cat too. "Evil bitch-cat from hell!" she says. OK, I wasn't *too* sure where I was going, but I think I found the almost-shortest route there. It was nice and scenic, anyhow, and we had to stand outside for ages waiting for the doors to open anyhow. DING! Ooh, there goes the timer. I can stop writing now. The flatmate is out tonight, so I can lounge on the sofa in my favourite clothes listening to Belle and Sebastian. Reason B) to get a Proper Job: getting a proper stereo too. After all, there's nothing on the telly. I'm still not sure if Stuart M is cuter. He gets extra Cute Points for definitely being in the band, though. And his dancing just makes me smile. The cat's cute, too. Far too cute to be *nasty* to. I think i'd better be going. I've said *far* too much nonsense now. love xx gneissy -- Will Salt http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ ICQ 66321009 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Jun 14 04:09:35 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:09:35 -0700 Subject: Sinister: if i remain passive and you just want a cuddle Message-ID: <002101c0f480$a5631820$a16401d5@aqlzosqt> heard jonathan david for the first time on monday, during a row with my nearest and dearest. decidedly inauspicous circumstances - i hope it doesn't have subconscious associations now. and you can't really say 'look, can we just stop discussing our relationship for 3 minutes so i can listen to a new song by my favourite band?' so i didn't fully take it in. but i heard enough to say this much to steven wells: i may not like what you're saying but i will defend to the death your right to say it... as if, you bitter old twat. b&s may be angels, but buck 65 is a god. anyone who can rhyme 'facial tissue' with 'racial issue' and make it seem totally natural gets my undying worship, anyway. honey wrote: >Pearls are really just fabulously beautiful bits of poo in a way aren't they? which just bears repeating. kyla's post about indie fashion or the lack of it was very interesting, i thought. but nerdy girls, surely, would not be defined by *what* they were wearing. otherwise it would be back to deliberate image. the point, i think, is that the nerdy boys of which you talk genuinely do not care what they've thrown onto their lanky bodies that morning. thus a similarly nerdy girl could only be so if she obviously didn't care either, regardless of what she was actually wearing. and i don't think it's too controversial to say that girls in general care a bit more about their appearance than boys in general do, whether on the indie scene or not. hence scarcity of nerdy girls. someone has been ink-stamping the 'claims direct' logo on loose paving stones around brighton... very thoughtful. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 20:24:03 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lisa & Lee) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:24:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: vicarious fun and a plea Message-ID: <005d01c0f43e$6f6343e0$56a3ecd8@Pleesa> I am all kinds of excited today... Why? You might well ask. Well, today's the day I go to purchase the "Johnathan and David" cd at my fave of all rekkid shops, 33 degrees. Since I've "been sinister" for only about a year now, this is my first time buying a B&S release right at the moment, experiencing the not to be missed or matched excitement of clutching it in my hands and racing home to hear something BRAND SPANKIN' NEW from our lovely band. Snatching off the plastic wrap, hurridly scrambling to place it in the player...ah the joy! I'll go on record as saying that the vicarious fun I'm having hearing about the gigs in no way replaces the actual shows themselves, but I like to read the notes, just the same. :) Also making me veddy veddy happy is the AIR gig on Friday!! Yowsa! I'll expect to see all the lo fi hip kids out in full force. What could be the third to complete a triumverate of happiness for me? (I'm sure this is list abuse, but here goes...please mail off list if you would) Would someone very much mind picking up some badges and a tshirt for me at one of the gigs? I have no way of procuring said items, seeing as how I live in Texas and all. I of course will pay all costs and even offer something nice and homemade as an extra incentive! :) Please pretty please , with strawberry switchblade on top? Let me know, superkids! Oodles of love and joy, Lisa from Texas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hugoshannon at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 21:06:06 2001 From: hugoshannon at xxx.com (Hugo Shannon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:06:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: white thighs and greasy poles Message-ID: hello all! i know you're not meant to talk about yourself too much, but i had an experience yesterday that needs sharing. having quit my dull inland revenue job some weeks ago - to start doing semi hard labour on an archaeological dig rather than watching day time tv - i was suprised to find that i was being made to go on an its a knockout thing. i'd signed up for a paid day off work ages ago, but my ex-colleagues were quite insistant i still showed. i don't know if they have its a knockout in the states, its jeux sans frontieres (or something like that) in europe, but for those not familiar with it, i shall explain: lots of people ( around 300 none too fit civil servants in this case) sign a legal waiver saying they won't drink alcohol or sue if we hurt ourselves, drink lots of alcohol, then proceed to humiliate and injure themselves on a series of inflatable death traps filled with water mixed with an extremely acidic non sensitive skin friendly detergent. on an overcast fairly cold day in a field in sheffield. i felt pure misery for the first time in memory. it was ok on the dry courses, but there was a point where i was completely dry and some paid chimp threw a whole cold bucket of water over me from unsporting point blank range. then it got worse. ok, so most people did work for the revenue - but they're nice people just doing a job - cold soakings are out of order. a bit of a splash to the legs may add to the fun, but complete drenchings all over in coldish surroundings - no fun at all. after this i went to the bar for a large brandy, and felt much better. our team came in 30th out of 32. we were definitely in the top 5 for drunkenness though. anyway - content and that. i havn't heard jonathan and david yet, even though i've listened to radio 1 for the first time in years on the off chance. i possibly have a spare standing ticket for the rah - i'll be selling at cost price �16 and a quid or 2 booking fee. i may still be able to get a chum to go, but i thought i'd test the water. sorry if this is list abuse, but, in my defence, i'm drunk. i never post sober. is this a rule yet? is there any big meet up for london? i've got the day off and am getting the train down from nottingham. i don't know london so i can't suggest anything, i think someone did a while back that sounded ok. i seem to have been typing for ages, way more than 15 mins. i won't have anything interesting to say for at least, ohh, 17 weeks anyway, so its ok. goodbye, (much sympathies and best wishes to jen - hospitals are scary places, i had a bad drip experience once too) hugo. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 21:12:29 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:12:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: muscly lips and Dunfermline bits References: Message-ID: <001501c0f445$2bf57040$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Salt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Sinister: muscly lips and Dunfermline bits > > Um, hello. There might be a bit about Dunfermline below, so don't read on > if you don't want to. > kind of unrelated, but....are the uptown shufflers a german blues band? i tried to find some information on them and that's all i came up with. just curious. and it's probably not as big a deal, but i just hit the (w.a.s.t.e.) lottery and got radiohead tickets! so nice to wake up from a nap to after discovering your computer didn't find anything wrong with itself despite the fact that there *is* something wrong. :) jay "go write a song about it, *dick*head" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 21:28:47 2001 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:28:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: happy coincidences In-Reply-To: <32.16520de6.28588ac0@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c0f447$73c883b0$9fcdfea9@tangents1> It was in the scent of hairspray. It was in the geometry of cheekbones. It was in the tone of eyes. Such is the way of the world of course. I hadn't listened to Belle & Sebastian for such a long time it could almost have been never, but when I put on Tigermilk last week it was like the world had never breathed before and everything was turned upside down, back to front and inside out. Of course. Everything flooded into place, as it always does. Tigermilk is a record of five years ago. Of course it is because it says '1996' on the sleeve somewhere.... but more than that of course Tigermilk is a record of five years ago, as is If You're Feeling Sinister and all those songs are 1996, and are even more 1997 and it all goes fuzzy and hazy and there are all sorts of faces and names and thoughts and feelings and they mean so much and no-one can take that away and that's what's great about Pop and that's what's special about Belle and Sebastian and that's what's so wonderful about life and er,,,, STUFF. So I was Going Back... and going back means going forward of course in some ways strangely and naturally. I was going back and listening to old recordings of Belle and Sebastian shows and recalling how they were always events of wonderfully elongated moments of reflection punctuated by shorter bursts of really rather beautiful sounds. And it made me go a bit teary if you must know. So much so that I started to wonder if it wouldn't really have been a rather good idea to have tried to find some tickets to one of their concerts this year, but oh dear, I don't know you know because this year is not 1996 or 1997 and It Just Wouldn't Be The Same, Would It? Of course I'm just a snobby old school fan. But seriously, I was wondering if it wouldn't have been fine to see them again and then as I pondered this I got an email from a Jasmine Mink who wandered into their Dunoon concert hall last week when he heard the strains of 'Sinister' and thought 'is that really Belle and Sebastian' and of how during a break in this rehearsal a chap approached him and said 'Jasmine Minks!', before proceeding to tell a tale of hitching to London from Glasgow for an 'event' called 'Doing it for the Kids' way back in the mists of time. He said his name was Struan. Except obviously he didn't say his name was Struan at all. And the Jasmine Mink went back and watched them rehearse the next day and then watched them play a 'real' concert and was so impressed he told me all about it. And naturally I was jealous as hell. But of course I cannot get to any of the Belle and Sebastian concerts this year because, well, you know, I just didn't get my little epiphany soon enough and anyway I have to be in school all the time and I'll get a bit huffy in a minute if I keep on thinking about THAT... and... and... Anyway. There was going to be a point here but I'm not sure I remember what it was going to be. It might have been something to do with the fact that the first two Belle and Sebastian albums still leave me beautifully bewildered and although the Other Two have moments that sparkle they just don't quite... and oh dear me I've wittered about THAT far too much in the past, haven't i? Archives... archives... archives... So I'll shut up. And actually the point might be that isn't Pop such a wonderfully perfect receptacle to store all sorts of memories and emotions in and aren't you/we/I lucky to have some NEW Belle and Sebastian Pop Recordings in which to do just that. Mine will be to do with the scent of hairspray, the geometry of cheekbones, and the tone of eyes. But that's just today. I think you should all tell us yours. And in hindsight there was no point to this post after all, except to say hello to Honey and Peter and everyone else who has been here since the day dot. I probably love you all. Only not in that particular way... The Duke. Tangents the home of unpopular culture www.tangents.co.uk editor at tangents.co.uk po box 102, exeter, ex4 6za, uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Wed Jun 13 22:46:38 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:46:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'll never be part of your empire of evil! Message-ID: <4a.17196fd0.2859393f@aol.com> That's too bad, because vice-dictators get their own amusement park. Bless you, Gah, I've just heard thirty seconds worth of all the songs off the new single. For what thirty seconds are worth they all sound quite pleasant to me. I think I'm going to like Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It. Jenowl mentioned rainbow brite. EEEEEEEEE! You haven't had a proper 80's girl childhood if you've never been exposed to the girl once known as Wisp. I had the red sprite and of course Rainbow herself. My friend had sheets. I was jealous. But oh, I had the belt. I remember being genuinely disappointed when it didn't produce a rainbow that I could walk on, I didn't have the horse you see. So Jenowl, let starlite, the most magnificent horse in the universe, carry you to a speedy recovery. And by the by, Bryan from the Rainbow Brite show is so clearly an indie boy in training. He always introduces himself with a shy smile. Sam walton (yeah) I believe mentioned that we hadn't heard anything from Peter Carter in a while. That is because I have been keeping him busy. Rarr! I have been in quite a Belle and Sebastian mood lately, after putting them on hiatus for a while. I think that B&S may be the best thing to sing in your car. I was doing this just the other day. I love to sing my head off in the car when I'm alone. I know when I see people singing along to their favorite tunes, having a good time it brightens my day. I like the idea that others might feel the same way, and that I can have fun singing, cheer some people up, and not injure their ears with my below par voice. I was stuck in traffic while singing and gesturing madly and the young couple (who I noted went to harvard) seemed to be quite amused. Their amusement seemed to inspire them to a full make out session. What odd ones these harvard folk be. (Yeah, so I applied there. They wouldn't have me) Speaking of weeds that talk back, isn't Jonny just the greatest thing ever?! I have to write a speech for graduation by Tuesday. Erp, I'm not sure that I have anything worthwhile to say to these people. Bother me. Aw, go ride your amusement park, Kara Jean Daria Brielmann* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Thu Jun 14 00:44:24 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (m.e. curtin) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Does this make me their biggest fan? Message-ID: So, I suppose the only benefit to being west o' the Atlantic is that we, who cannot see them LIVE, could hear the new single yesterday. It's a pretty fair trade. I won't offer any idiotic reviews, I won't spoil your fun, but I will tell you what I went through to get this single. You see, there are no decent record stores in my town. I know I know, same old sorry story, right? WEll, I have to drive a few minutes to the "next city" to the only somewhat reasonable record store. No problem, right? WEll, I do hate the drive as it is on an expressway, but it's worth it for record heaven. Anyway, yesterday I went directly from work (which meant I was wearing a bright orange tshirt with a big yellow "x" on the back........plus I was dirty and sweaty - a real feast for the eyes) up to this place that I thought might have Jonathan David. En route, I come 3 cm from being sideswiped by a tow truck that turned on a red light (left turn, I might add), I hit and (assumedly) kill a groundhog on the highway and was very close to having my knees crushed when the woman who parked in front of me gunned backwards without looking behind her. Ouch, such havoc! I was discouraged. Imagine my surprise when I walked into said record store and directly beside the door was the LAST COPY of Johnathan David. What are the odds? The guy who worked there was ticked that I bought it because "now he'd have to order more due to 'suspiciously increased demand'". THose were his words. I felt glad. So you see, I risked my life for Belle and Sebastian. That makes me their most valiant fan. I think I may embroider(?) myself a badge saying: "Most Courageous Fan Ever". If only I could sew.......If only I had any skills. Could I be given an official post as Sinister Security? Maybe we could have the Sinistoria Cross, awarded to listees who display especially heroic acts of fanship. That could work, right? On a lighter note, the single is great (grate, grayte, graite......whatever you like) and all of you who must wait a few days should feel better because you know that the best things are worth waiting for. I'll be quiet now. Yours, Marybeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Thu Jun 14 06:02:06 2001 From: adevens at xxx.edu (adevens at xxx.edu) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:02:06 US/Eastern Subject: Sinister: san francisco, b&s, laura llew, mogwai, pop fantasy, and more... Message-ID: <200106141002.f5EA25P28225@college.antioch-college.edu> hi all, soooooo, i wrote this before but it doesn't seem to have gotten through so here i am writing it again and i know it won't turn out anywhere near as good the second time. as a result i'm asking that all of you, at some point, close your eyes (hard to do while reading i know) and try to imagine the original post in all its glory and brilliance. thank you. i haven't written for ages again, mostly cause i was in fabulous-seattle, then even-more-fabulouser-ohio, then not-quite-as-fabulous-but-far-more-fun-san-francisco which is where i am now spending the summer in art school. i've now met my first pre-sinistereen, she lives in my building and she loves b&s, i'm trying to get her to join but i'm not sure she's ready for this all yet. for one thing she doesn't have a computer ;-( i have now also played DDR and tried red bull, both for the first time. i loved one (thanks julie) and didn't like the other at all (sorry ken) but now i can't wait to go to the uk and see how much better you all are then me at it. *** ACTUAL CONTENT (if you live in sf) *** i'm organizing an sf picnic for all of us here, i am thinking we could have it either the 23rd or the 30th. if all interested parties could please email me and let me know which would be better that would be just great ;-) oh, and everyone in the sf bay area should go to pop fantasy cause tons of great bands, including the lucksmiths and the aislers set are apparently playing, http://www.2001popfantasy.com/. if enough of us are going we can all go or meet together ;-) the fabulous (word of the day?) laura llew (whom i love more then i can possibly count) and i are having a b&s gig in her bedroom in north carolina, and none of you are invited ;-P. well, actually, there is one open spot for a luck attendee but you have to sit on a possibly leather chair and you need to prove yourself worthy. my suggestion is to enter the amazing transatlantic mix tape contest and try to convince her llewness of your extreme worthiness and wonder. all sales final. the management is not responsible for personal injury or lost property. thank you for your patronage. i saw mogwai on saturday which was great, even my gf liked it which means she now likes at least one band that we can agree on (she hates b&s, it's so sad). the concert was all amazing but the end was a bit weird. someone stole something off the stage and dominic got very amd and chased him off and the drummer kicked over his set and they all walked off stage. well all except one guy who kept everything going for a bit until he walked off too and the guitar techs had to end the show. it was neet. love and um.... kugel? arik +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 11:58:09 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:58:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: feeling intense Message-ID: <3B274741.5D1FED42@netscapeonline.co.uk> ok. hi there. I have about fifteen minutes available in which to write such as I have to say. In moments like these I see the meaning in the words of T.S.Eliot: 'Midwinter spring is its own season/ Sempiternal though sodden towards sundown,/ Suspended in time, between pole and tropic.' The eternal strangeness of time and people and being. Or perhaps I ought to translate more directly from Eliot: the seasons are general descriptions of time and state but do not describe an individual/ the word 'Sempiternal' means 'enduring constantly' and derives from late Middle English from the Old French *sempiterne* = late [from the shorter version of the Oxford English Dictionary] The rest of that line you might presume to translate correctly. The third line 'Suspended in time, between pole and tropic' in which T.S. perhaps was, for the sake of modernity disinclined to change the comma for a semi-colon, is clearly referencing wild (as in the distance between the humours of 'pole' and 'tropic' and the physical distance and the enduration of such a travel) swings of mood: childhood is not so long ago, after all. I now have five minutes, a haircut (leaving the fringe) the day off and dressed immaculately in a white cuff-linked shirt; grey woven tie and black suit in heavy cloth. On the suggestion of my mother, I have taken off the waistcoat because the entirety of the appearance produced an almost funereal aspect. No funerals or anything: I am over-dramatic in demeanour and happy, but curious, to be alive. But I am. I'll tell you later:) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Thu Jun 14 13:03:24 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:03:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Transport to Scarborough and stuff Message-ID: <3B28A80C.908C3603@york.ac.uk> I haven't posted in ages and my first post is thoroughly mundane. Oh well, it might help some of you. I'll get to the point and then ramble later. COACH TO SCARBOROUGH There are loads of us from York uni going to see the best band in the world at the Futurist in Scarborough. I have therefore taken the liberty of organising a coach there and back to carry our small bodies. There are probably going to be a few spare seats though and i will open them up to sinister people. The cost will be about £7-£9 depending on the total number of people. the coach will levae the university at 5pm and leave Scarborough at 12 midnight. If you are interested please contact me privately. GIGS AND PRETTY POO I was thrilled to hear about the gigs that have already passed. i wish i could have met honey, but Scotland is expensive and full of people i can't understand. Anyone who's visited the Burger King at Glasgow Station will know what I mean. I was very pleased to hear there is a song called I Love My Car. I don't know why, i don't have a car, but i was. I hope they play Sinister at Scarborough and Ipswich, it's beautiful. i don't think I can get to London for the RAH gig so I'm going to have to sell my ticket. i have an exam on that day and it's the last day of term so it will be impossible for me to move all my stuff and get to London in time. Poo poo pooey poo. I thought the description of pearls given by honey was wonderful. Are they really poo? I don't understand how pearls work, they confuse me. Lots of things confuse me. CHESNEY HAWKES Who says york has no entertainment! I saw Chsney Hawkes for free in our college bar! he did two songs from his new album (they were like Bryan Adams only more boring, I know this sounds impossible, but it's true), desecrated imagine into MOR mush as well as American Pie and then played the only song anyone knows which was great. I was a bit disappointed because apparantly some girls got their breasts out and i missed it. See you in Scarborough/Ipswich and hopefully London, Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Wed Jun 13 13:32:08 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:32:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: next was bureaucracy Message-ID: <3B275D48.12B554CF@netscapeonline.co.uk> into town and back... Dad driving me of course... and, speaking to someone farther along the chain, I now have another hour to wait (2hrs: half hour for parking and motorway between here and there. God I'm scared! But you don't exist!) Perhaps you do: maybe; slightly, somewhere unknown. So I comfort myself in the taxonomies of linguistic exploration. I'm perhaps being a bore or simply strange and: much be as such is not my want and my words pedantic I need your company: I need other people. Right now and as spring is in winter as previously said; I shall be quickly shifting... this is not in order to be shifty but to be wise: not smug nor satisfied but translating reality into a language understandeable perhaps only for me... perhaps not, but in the express of appropriate thoughts... Maybe 'nobody cares' translates 'Nihil' but, from experience of circumstances I am given evidence that people do. A glance or even slightly less of a gesture than that: these things are important. Everything is of import. My importations stay in the space of fantasy but I attempt their constructions. I make mistakes as well. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n.barr at xxx.uk Thu Jun 14 14:48:17 2001 From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 3 or 4/9ths approx. of V-Twin to play in Glasgow! Message-ID: <3B28CEB1.10793.11B1A08@localhost> Hi everyone, (People going to the Friday gig who're not interested in V-Twin can jump straight to the last paragraph, but they will miss a tiny bit of B&S content.) I've been turning into a bit of a lurker recently due to V-Twin not doing much recently that was worth informing you about - they have been doing the usual V-Twin things; occasionally recording bits of album, falling out, making friends again and having three or four line up changes a day. The album is almost finished - just some final vocal tracks to be recorded. The bits I've heard sound great (and I know the cynical ones among you will say that's because Jason's vocals haven't been recorded yet...) Maybe I should try posting real B&S content for a change... I lent my PA to a charity thingy a couple of weeks ago, and so had to go and set it up in the church hall they had borrowed - the same one featured some time ago in the News of the World's attempt at a B&S exposé. It was rather weird seeing Stuart in his caretaker role. I don't think anyone else there knew who he was. Some time ago Peter Miller suggested the Saracen's Head (known locally as the Sarry Heid) as a meetup point before the Glasgow gigs, and were this the mid 18th century that would have been an excellent idea, however probably not these days. Someone else suggested McChuill's which is a rather better idea - it does tend to be rather crowded early on a Friday evening with post-work drinkers, bit is a nice place with interesting posters and record sleeves on the wall, and an owner who looks like Andy Warhol. Anyway, I had forgotten about that at the time I was arranging where to meet up with the people I'm going to the Friday gig with, so we're meeting in the 13th Note Cafe on King Street at 7p.m. Any of you who want to are welcome to join us. I'm the bloke of average height, weight and age, but with longer than average pony-tail and more battered than average glasses, sitting (or standing if it's busy) drinking cider... Niall. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Thu Jun 14 15:06:40 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Twee Cwubbers Message-ID: Personal content - Over the weekend and past few days i came to the conclusion that, except one or two, i have very little in common with my friends and don't get no particularly well with them. It all started Friday night when me and fellow twee cwubber(they say it as an insult i take it as a compliment) Al (who a few days ago toddled out of the nursery but has not yet decided to use his newly acquired crayons) went to our friends house, they spent the whole nught playing Feeder with rousing encores of Buck Rogers,11 times, and Seven days in the Sun,6 times, not because they adore Feeder but because they knew we did not like them. As well other things over the past week they don't like B&S but are going to the concert to annoy us and are going to "hit that f**** twee b****** wae a pint man, then we'll see who's twee". I think it's a really sad day when you realise you're friends aren't particularly nice people but it's even worse when you realise you don't like them on any level. B&S content - I read a few of the gig reviews and was pleasantly surprised to hear the Glasgow herald describe them as "polished" not something i would assoicate with B&S. I bet they will still be as charming as ever though. I wish i had Jonathan David, i love that song. I the old middle distance runner on cassette and i love that too but i heard they slightly changed the one on Jonathan David. It will still be luvvly. Is it wrong to download Jonathan Daid if im gonna buy it as soon as i can? Gig content - Although i am excited beyond belief at the prospect of seeing B&S im pretty worried about the barrowlands as a venue.Its pretty small and at the dunoon gig i heard there were thirteen people on stage, i dont have a clue who they'll fit thirteen people on that stage. Also i heard snow patrol as a support act at the barras and the really really really rocked up their set, and im sad to say it was pretty dire. Anyway everyone have a lovely time at B&S gigs or at home listening to B&S. Danny xxxx "I know you like her, well i like her too.I know she like you" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chickfactor at xxx.uk Thu Jun 14 16:01:19 2001 From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:01:19 -0700 Subject: Sinister: corporate whore writes... Message-ID: <200106141501.IAA30056@mail20.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From shewitt at xxx.uk Thu Jun 14 16:39:52 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:39:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oxford Picnic!! (and stuff) Message-ID: ello babies here are the final details for the fantastic oxford picnic... Date: Saturday 23 June Time: 2pm Meeting type place: The Plain, outside the offie or in "Pub, Oxford" if raining (well, you've got to get your priorities right, haven't you ;)) Once people have arrived we will saunter up St Clements to South Park (insert inevitable "ohmigawd, they killed kenny" reference here), and we shall sit at the top of the hill, do picnic stuff and gaze at the dreaming spires. If anyone knows of a top quality hayfever remedy that isn't counteracted by consuming alcohol, i'd be very grateful, as i may spend the afternoon sneezing and moaning about going to sit in a nice airtight pub if i don't have one. Anyway, if you fancy coming drop me a line and i'll tell you how to get there if you are an out-of-towner (it's dead easy for londoners, cos the magic bus stops on st clements). I must say all of these gig reports are making me even more excited than i was anyway, and i fear i may be sick with envy come monday morning from reading about all the glasgae shenanigans (not that me, glasgow and sick have anything else in common). Also I hearby issue an ultimatum to Swells. 3pm outside the !R!A!H! me and you, 2 hits, i hit you, you hit the floor, you sad old bald one trick pony... Brenda Corporatewhore ;) said: anyone else like the moldy peaches? to which i utter a resounding YES!!! Saw them on Tuesday with the strokes (who were dull and boring) and they kicked such serious ass, this is my idea of a new acoustic movement, "who's got the crack" indeed... Also at The Strokes were Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood (no big surprise there) and James Dean Bradfield and KATE MOSS who stood next to Mrs Carsmile, who later declared that Ms Moss wasn't really "all that" Also lovely to see some old names reappearing from lurkerdom, welcome back. Also if i can find the other day's grauniad i'll scan in the pic of struan. Speaking of which, i have the rest of my ATP photos to scan in too, which i'll get around to at some point in the near future. I also have the friday of !R!A!H! off, wasn't that Sam Walton meant to be organising something for the afternoon? (sorry Sam) xoxo CarsmileSteve little whining appeal for help bit: If there is anyone out there who knows of any lists for ppl coming to Oxford for the Radioheed gig, could you let me know cos i want to plug our indie nite to anyone arriving early. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jun 14 16:57:11 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:57:11 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Give My Regards to Broad Street Message-ID: <001f01c0f4ea$d5828800$5a5c243e@itjfvkli> Nice to hear from the Duke again. Do the Jasmine Minks live in Dunoon or were they all on holiday there, like the Monkees or Slade? I'm a bit worried about anyone actually taking my advice regarding the Saracen's Head. I don't want to be "responsible for several deaths" as someone put it. I can see the headlines now: RIBENA FANATICS MASSACRED BY IRN BRU FUNDAMENTALISTS. So perhaps one of the more mature members of the list could stand outside the Saracen's Head dressed as a lollipop lady and turn their lollipop to STOP whenever a stray indie kid tries to go inside. If that's not rock'n'roll enough, you could always dress up as a New York Dolls lollipop lady, Dave. I wish I was going too :( Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Jun 14 22:35:53 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:35:53 Subject: Sinister: picnix/swells Message-ID: hello. Two posts in quick succession - this is getting a bit eager... Anyway, I was just going to write some assinine ramble about Swells, but I'll do that after I've got "content" out of the way. CarsmileSteve wrote: >>I also have the friday of !R!A!H! off, wasn't that Sam Walton meant to be >>organising something for the afternoon? Indeed, indeed. Back in May I volunteered to be picnic mummy for a pre-gig gathering on 29th. So here are the details: I reckon it's best if we meet by the Albert Memorial at 2pm. That way we can drink/play footie (my leg is okay-ish now) and generally be twee, before storming the RAH on the very second that the doors open. For those people who don't know what the Albert Memorial is, it's a 100ft high gold statue of Prince Albert and it's totally impossible not to notice. It's slap bang opposite the RAH too, as this handy map demonstrates: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=526569&Y=179893&arrow=N&zoom=1 Lovely. So yeah, normal picnic rules apply. I'll be the tall lanky one with a twisted nerve badge on his jacket, hopefully standing next to a smaller girl, also with a twisted nerve badge and a clash badge on her jacket. 29th June. 2pm. Miss it, miss out. Anyone in any doubt, send me an email (samwaltonyeah at hotmail.com), and I'll have my mobile with me (078-6684-1757) on the day. Perhaps we could invite Swells. I have a theory about Swells. I reckon that he's kept in a gimp cellar in a dungeon underneath the NME offices, only allowed out when a B&S record is released, so that he can slate it. What else has he written about in the last year? I like him though. He makes me laugh. ArtsyDeco said: >>Sam walton (yeah) I believe mentioned that we hadn't >>heard anything from Peter Carter in a while. That is because I have been >>keeping him busy. Rarr! Well it's good to see that Peter's gardening skills are being put to good use. I hear that Kara's back yard was in a real mess, and only someone with Carter's green fingers could handle it. But it's good to see that the horticulture is still keeping him busy. I've decided, after about a month of pondering, that I really love the new Air record, even if it does sound a little bit like Pink Floyd, although PF are alright too. That's all. See you all on the 29th, love S.x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Thu Jun 14 23:47:31 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:47:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I love (singing in) my car Message-ID: Hi y'all I've decided to put my head over the parapet again and say a few lines. The countdown timer's set for 15 mins and I've been saving up ideas for ages for ages. I'm not drunk, but that rule doesn't seem to have been set in stone yet, so here goes... Someone mentioned singing along to B&S in the car. I'm glad I'm not the only one, though the Aislers Set have gained ascendency lately. I don't half get some funny looks driving to work of a morning though! Weekend before last I had the Moldy Peaches on LOUD driving up to the Offbeat special - with the windows down as it was a hot day, and stuck in traffic on the M1 I certainly drew some attention! I'll be doing that route again actually next weekend when I go to see them Moldys live in Sheffield, so if anyone sees, or hears, a clapped out white Escort estate chugging up the M1 spouting twee tunes and obscenities, don't worry it's only me! The Offbeat 'do' was great. Thanks to all concerned. I'd not been in there 2 minutes before I saw Ken again on the latest leg of his Red Bull sponsored tour de force. We had great fun making our own flyers on beer labels! One lass came right up and asked if I was on the list, and another said she'd seen me at Pow! To The People in Camden. Now where else would you find such a lovely close-knit community than in the lovely land of Sinister? Ahhh. Sorry I couldn't make the picynic the following day, but I trusy you had a lovely time. Can't wait for the RAH gig. My ticket finally arrived, so I'm much happier now. It was waiting for me on my return from my week back home oop norwth, which was good as I needed something to cheer me up after getting beaten up in my home town. :( My sympathies to all other suffering sinistarians, 'specially Jen. Keep the gig reviews coming, they only serve to whet the appetite further! Can anyone tell me (off list please!) what goodies, if any, are available to buy - Ts, badges, etc.? Ta. There, that ought to do it! I'm sure Sir Cliff would be proud. Mistletoe and Wine PeetSketchSteve _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gareth at xxx.uk Fri Jun 15 01:07:57 2001 From: gareth at xxx.uk (gareth jenkinson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:07:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fragrant list abuse Message-ID: <003e01c0f530$03c74440$0101a8c0@laptop> i have few friends on sinister. one of them will be in glasgow at the same time as me, and i failed to make arrangements to meet. if any of you know the whereabouts of velocity farewell could you slip her my phone number in a secret classroom note stylee, and ask her to call or text details of where the in-crowd will be drinking after the gig? 07970 282591. no crank calls please, they only embarass. tomorrow i start the long journey from swansea to glasgow. if anyone's on the 11.14 virgin train from bistol - glasgow i'll be in first class looking out of place due to the bizarre state of variable ticket prices on our fantastic privatised rail network. cheers gareth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Jun 15 03:26:20 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:26:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: make lots of money Message-ID: <4d.cfad4b8.285acc4c@aol.com> Hello Firstly just wondering if some lovely,beautiful,wonderful, kind soul out there would consider selling me their tickets for the Royal Albert Hall (or should that be R!A!H! ) gig. you can total take advantage of me, as in name your price and I'll probably buy it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-= This week I started late shift at work. and let me tell you it's very weird cos you go in at 4pm and work till 12 ,then cycle back home for the next hour. Whilst on the bike the trip begins cos It's dark and there's NOBODY! ,you don't see ANYONE! for miles! but in my head it's only 4pm (thats when I an used to leaving work). a taxi driver I spoke to was saying to me that this must be what it's like in a nuclear war when everyone has gone into there underground bunkers. So strange! all alone in the world but. the trouble with biking about down these lonely road's at a silly time in the morning is that your imagination goes doolally. For instance the other night, there I am quite happily rolling down this pitch black little lane the other night when I glance to my right and nearly take the bike up to 100mph as this see-through white thing is flying along beside me. My God I was truly shaken up at this point and it was following me still!.... ..........right up until the point there was a break in the hedge, at which point I realised that the thing I had been scared to shaking point by was in fact the light beam from my front light shining on the hedge............what a twat! ```````````````````````````````````````````````````` Hey,yeah also does anyone know what the line "don't look back,like Dilon in the movies" refer to? My new fave early morning/just in from work food has to be Carrot's,they're lovely I mean I 've just eaten four whilst writing this. Has anyone else be to Rockaboom in St Martins sq in Leicester,it's ever so good. Sorry if this is uninforming but I need to do something after a bit of a Pepsi max overdose (I'll be up all night now) If any one can make use of a free Birmingham (2nd of July) ticket then get in touch. ######################################### There's nothing wrong with loving your car. I have very deep feelings for my faded blue, `74 Datsun. Chrome lightly twinkling and those highly expressive eyes/headlamps looking up at me, I've been stood in the road for the last five minutes in a daze while the car has been *making eyes* at me seductively "let's go out James, just you and me" ,it's all a bit to much to resist. SEXY STRAIGHT SIX SUPER CAR be mine forever. Who else but the one who's in the know would possably want to know what the meaning of anything is unless you're plain CONFUSED. The first person to answer the above question will receive a nugget of genuine 1979 Datsun 260Z carpet. Thanks for taking the time to look at this you lovely people. James. /``..``````````\ ,---------------------'---''''----------------'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '-------- \ \\\\\\\\\\\\\ \ l____/'''''o''''''''\......................../''''''''''o'' '''''''''''''''''\...../ /////////// Car's make us happy but are dangerous and polute the atmosphere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Fri Jun 15 09:40:41 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:40:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: on picnics, Los Angeles and otherwise Message-ID: <001001c0f576$df6295e0$0f7679a5@pavilion> Firstly, I got a twinge in my heart of the Oxford picnicees marching up St. Clements Street, as *that* is where I lived when I lived in England. If you see a fish & chips place at #38, look up to the top floor window & say hi to my ghost. I threw up out that window on Thanksgiving 1989. And spent some of the best months of my life. And secondly, the Los Angeles picnic, "A Summer Wasting", was i think a success, as founder Jennifer Juniper already pointed out. There's photos to be seen here: http://www.asummerwasting.homestead.com/photos1.html Ernie, you're in a few of them (sorry). But mostly I just got your palm covering your face. Have y'all ever met someone so camera-obscura? Adrian & Chris strummed out some lovely tunes by our favorite band, and Rachel Cornflakegirl was even lovelier in person. My sister (and recent convert) Melanie chased after a camera-man from the Discovery Channel, demanding to know whether he knew who Rick Springfield was. He was embarrassed and tried to deny it at first, but we could tell by his too-quick denial that he at least owned "Working Class Dog" and "Success Hasn't Spoiled Me Yet". And we played with a dog the size of a rat, but fluffy and springy thru the grass. He was cute till he pinched a cigarette-butt-sized loaf on the lawn. Then we kinda lost interest. But the best was the Japanese tourist who agreed to take our group photo. He counted off with the cutest "Wan... Too... Free..." and he said it *twice* as we'd given him two cameras with which to win our soft hearts. Bless that man. Apologies to The Pickle Prince for publicly announcing that he was *not* in attendance, despite his assurance that he'd be there "with belles on" (excerpt from the 'A Summer Wasting' guestbook). We kept watching the horizon for his bent-cowboyhatted silhouette strutting forth, but it never came. And on our way to the freeway, Rachel & her boy-crew following us, we sucker-bombed a bag of crisps into their car at a red light; and they thusly retalliated with (inexplicably) a box of tissues through our car window at the next red light. We blew our nose in their general direction, and kept the tissues as the Spoils of War. And although i failed to mention it at the picnic, it was Joan Of Dark's birthday the very same day. It was fitting that, although we couldn't be in Greece to party with her, we partied like it was 1989. Or something. And the Ribenna was flowing!! Although I couldn't pronounce it correctly, and it was shunned by some of the picnicers ("Welch's with a bit more berry flavor-- but you hafta mix it yerself!") but embraced by others (J. Juniper emphasized that it's better with vodka). I believe her. So that was the picnic. We were chasing the shade of the announcement-speaker-thingy, but it kept us up to speed with the happenings of the Observatory minute-by-minute. When all of a sudden a god-like booming voice would announce above our heads: "Attention, Griffith Observatory visitors....." we half-expected to hear: "The freeks you see on our south lawn are representatives of the Belle and Sebastian collective known as Sinister. They are harmless, but if you approach them use caution. They are known to burst out into laughter. Tickets are now on sale for our 3 PM planetarium show entitled The Many Moons Of Saturn. Admission is free for children under 5 years." Anyway, it was a wonderful time. See the photos and believe me. I've just started singing for a Pavement cover band, just something to do for the summer. But the thing is, we're covering one non-Pavement song. It's called "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying". More on this as the situation progresses. Did I mention that I was an extra in the Nelly Furtado video "Turn Off The Light"? Look for me when it comes out, in about a month. I'll look for you everywhere. Love, Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Fri Jun 15 11:35:53 2001 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:35:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: People keep mistaking me for a drunken lout Message-ID: <01061511355303.00481@hammy> Hello sinister, (just quickly - really sorry if this has been sent twice but I don't think it has because last time my email program had my address set wrong) Oh what was I going to say... Well to start off because I can't remember the other stuff I was going to say I'm going to tell you about the Guildford Live festival this year. It's fantastic, and it beats the shit out of that crappy little ATP thing. You may even find a few people smiling in the field. Plus the NME won't be there - chances are if any journalists turn up it will be cool ones from Planet Sound on channel four teletext*. The line up is always pants mostly, but there is this year: P!U!L!P! Tindersticks James Bert Jansh & Bernard Butler (haven't got a fucking clue what this is but Bernard Butler's cool). Drunk in Public (acoustic levellers, apparently) Dead men walking (featuring some bloke from the sex pistols. don't know what they're like though). Mull historical society (i'm sure i've heard of them, can't think if they're any good or not). Snow patrol. There's also loads of really shockingly bad local bands and old shit, e.g. "The Bush the Tree and Me", "The Wurzels", "Fuzz Light Year" and "Catatonia". It's around £30 for each day, £64 for all three days. £25 for a tent. www.guildford-live.co.uk. And you paid £100+ to see shit like boards of canada and a whole pile of bands you'd never heard of! That was the worst advert ever on sinister I think. It's longer and more obvious than most of the Offbeat spams we get. I keep using the word shit in a very American sounding way. Perhaps the result of too much MTV. Or something. Maybe my subconsious is just trying to impress Laura Llew. Radiohead were good on TV. I think they were better when they were a guitar band also, Jason, but the new stuffs good too. And you can't always try and do the same stuff over and over or you become tired and boring like Morrissey. Ages ago people talked about songs that sounded like other songs and can I just say that "Things you can do" by Deltron 3030 sounds a lot like "Clint Eastwood" by Gorillaz. The voice of the guy rapping sounds very similar and the sample going on in the background as well. Gorillaz rock by the way, Stuart Braithwaite doesn't know what he's talking about. Deltron 3030 are also pretty cool, but the best song at the moment is "Daydream in blue" by I Monster. It apparently uses the same sample as this Beta Band song I've never heard, so I'm sure if you like one you'll like the other ;) Finally some amusingly terrible pisstake names for Starsailor (apart from Shitsailor) that I'm going to make up right now Poosailor Crapsailor Cuntsailor Arsesailor Fucksailor Arsefucksailor Analsecretionsailor Byebye dears James xx P.S. I'm not a drunken lout nor am I foul mouthed. *Almost forgot. If you don't already, you must read planet sound starting on page 450 on c4 teletext. Also page 146 is good for pervy stories about people with willy problems (Dear Nick, Please help me. My penis is shaped like an amusingly shaped vegetable. Yours, Starsailor Fan ) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Fri Jun 15 12:22:59 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:22:59 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Gnaheeee campers Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From carle at xxx.com Fri Jun 15 13:10:27 2001 From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:10:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: only 189 messsages from now Message-ID: <3B29FB26.DA117CBC@rcn.com> friends, human, sinisterines! centuries since previous post and with good reason, the fecudity of locutions has kept me in the backlogs of weblogs (am i right? is that what "weblogs" are?) still amusing and moving and manic, but impossible to respond. yet i refuse to recuse myself from at least scanning every last one and no, neither can i start from the most recent and move up (i am the sort who... well, let me put it this way, during my schooldays, the 'hardkids'--to use the jenowl neologism--used to steal my paperback novels and read the end to me as a form of mischief/torture: the end is supposed to be at the end for a reason!) and so ensues...raison 'd 8-track: for no other reason than to engender dispute, in my latest attempt to recruit for the cult, what follows is the title and sequence of my own personal best-of B&S (that there also exists a similar-if-not-quite identical mix used as the enticement doesn't mean that this does not express the essence of it) as contained on one 80-minute CD. legal man the boy w/the arab strap dirty dream #2 nice day for a sulk the state that i am in it could have been a brilliant career slow grafitti judy and the dream of horses la pastie de la bourgeoisie don't leave the light on baby expectations i could be dreaming like dylan at the movies the model seymour stein seeing other people she's losing it a century of fakers family tree a summer wasting womens realm and yes, i know, the other version has mayfly in there somewhere... rawk as rock: went out for a sonic reducer wednesday: picture this, if you can--glenn branca & the plaza in front of the world trade center! the former, the foremost composer of guitar army symphonies (there were 100 there, guitarists, i mean, ten bassists and one drummer), the latter the former tallest building(s) on this planet. the question in every one's mind: could they hear this band on the 106th floor? probably, it felt like an sst taking off on wings of ostrich guitar straight out of VU "white light, white heat"...extended for one hour...where time seemed to stretch and warp as much as you could see these steel columns rising into the sky straight and long as the neck of an aluminum fender stratocaster, the interregnum floors seeming as much as frets...wondering if the mountain had come to mohammed or vice versa...or whether mohammed was strumming the buildings... title of piece: Hallucination City. last nite was a lot of sci-fi smut read at a local queerculture bistro called dixon place. a drag queen prostitute boy becomes woman-for-a-day from nanotech biomolecules, a female scientist teases co-worker with a story of how she fuckt a black hole, and others from the nerve.com site's present presentation of this edition. i include this only as a sop to those who feel all the talk of the tour has lowered the oozey, funky, sweaty, steamy content of this list to a new low. be reading you. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Fri Jun 15 17:00:16 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:00:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC picnic tomorrow! Directions, etc. Message-ID: <000b01c0f5b4$45752f40$8624a5d8@nyu.edu> Okay, so the picnic is tomorrow!!! Therefore, it is time for directions and such. The picnic is in the same spot as last time, and Miss Print gave me a little help utilizing the archive to see how I gave directions last time: "Do you know how to get to the Metropolitan Museum of Art? If you don't and you can't figure it out, email me. From the Met, walk down one of the pathways into Central Park on either side of the building. You'll come to a silly archy thing. Trot through the archy thing. On the right will be the Obelisk, which has always served as a highly unnecessary phallic symbol in the park, if you ask me. Walk straight down the path and to the left will be a little splotch of grass and trees where we will be picnicking. This splotch is in the southeast corner of the Great Lawn, above the turtle pond, in case you're coming from another direction. " I attempted to draw a map of this, but it was abysmal. You're all smart, you'll figure it out. The Met is most easily reached by subway on the 4, 5, or 6 trains. Although metmuseum.org seems convinced the 86th St stop is closest, 77th St works just as well. My cell phone number is 917 375 6875, so feel free to call me with any questions or if you get lost (even if you're a total stranger). Heavy breathers welcome, but please no Canadians. The picnic begins at 2ish and goes on til whenever we get tired of each other/it rains/Will Porter shows up (which should be no earlier than 6). Later on some of us have decided to go see Kiki & Herb, if you'd like to join in on that action call for reservations at Fez, 212 533 2680. Please bring food, drink, party favors, or puppies, and don't forget to wish Matt Hintz a happy belated birthday. In other news, I really want a pair of purple Puma roller skates. Sigh. Hope to see you tomorrow! xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Jun 15 17:51:42 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:51:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: digeridoos and toilet attendants. you know, the usual. oh and a plea Message-ID: <20010615165142.35156.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Hey ho! Nine day weekends are cool especially when you've got nothing to do except get drunk and finish all those books you meant to... The USS Enterprise is off the shores of this little town right now. I wondered around town fully expecting to see Captain Kirk getting thrown out of Yates' but apparently it's just an aircraft carrier. It contains sailors much like British ships except they're more likely to complain about the lack of anywhere to get a decent steak. Another thing that recently happened here is the opening of a place called Tiger Tiger. These are places with a number of different rooms all of which sell the same overpriced bottled beers. The discovery of the night was that they have people who are paid to hand me paper towels after I have just urinated and washed my hands. I wanted to ask him how it felt to be paid to do the job of a plastic box nailed to a wall but I guess you gotta start somewheres. Anyway it was shite. The other thing that happened was I went to London. While browsing Waterstones in Covent Garden I came across a new book signing. I can't remember the name of the book - something about ancient cultures' use of resonant sounds in religous ceremonies. Anyway, by way of demonstration they had a man called Bear who played the digeridoo. He offered to play it at me with my eyes closed. Confident of having witnesses in case he tried anything, I accepted. It was a peculiar feeling - sort of like a massage with sound. Unfortunately I was unable to come up with anything particularly descriptive at the time so his demo fell slightly flat and my mind remained un-expanded. I've not heard JD yet but I believe Swells speaketh the truth in all matters B&S so it must be wank. Oh look just ignore him. He'll get bored and go away. James Thorniley said a lot of unpleasant things about Starsailor. GOOD ON YER BOY! Quick appeal: Any London listees going to RAH able to offer a fellow twee human a sofa or floor or nice soft cushion for the night? I don't take up much space and I'm quite easy on the eye in the mornings. Please drop me a line off-list. Or if you know of any all night club type dos after the gig. Or if you just have something nice to say. Thanks. Have fun everyone in Glasgow. Robsterrr ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Fri Jun 15 18:23:48 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:23:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: What're the odds of getting to a gig? Well, the same as successfully navigating an asteroid field, darling! Message-ID: <68.1020dc40.285b9ea5@aol.com> Why hello, Sinister! I'm re-emerging from my dark corner, and for no good reason at all, except to share in the general on-line revelry and debauchery. I must say, although I am terribly excited about the CD already being released here in the states, I can't say that I think it's at all fair. The band's from Scotland, shouldn't you lot have it first? Although I agree that since I can't get to a show, the CD seems adequate compensation. Well, nevermind. It would appear that I actually have no solid opinion on it at all. I'm writing from work, since you were so kind to ask. I work too fast. I've been duly reprimanded. I've been told to slow down; there's not enough work. Now, that's constructive criticism I can honestly enjoy. So, now I pace myself. File, cruise the net, shred, download mp3's, make a packet, order a book online. You know. Pace. A NICE four-letter word. Do you want to hear a NASTY four-letter word? Math. Shh. Keep it quiet. It's pure evil. I have an 84%, and dammit that's not good enough. I am become an overachiever. I ask myself sometimes, when has a B (a fucking B)in math not been good enough? Well, comes the disembodied response, since. . . NOW. And that's usually where the conversation ends. Luckily. It could end up in a mental catfight, and I could do some serious membrane damage, so I think I've gotten off easy. AND SINCE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF CARS LATELY. . . Unfortunately, Chuckie (my jeep) is terminally ill. I don't have a formal diagnosis as of yet, but he had a bypass a few weeks ago (catalytic converter thing, you know) and he's having lung trouble (I can't use fucking air at all anymore). Also, he's been having serious palpitations (I think this may be evidence of the serious engine trouble the mechanics hinted at). As a matter of fact, he's quite beaten up. I hope he hangs in there a bit longer; perhaps my enduring love for him will suffice to keep him going. But, I think it's unlikely. I'm taking him in for a transfusion this afternoon (oil). We'll see how it goes. As I know I have your complete sympathy and concern, I'll be sure to keep you updated on the tense situation. And with that, the reserves of wit are exhausted. Keep sending in fully detailed reports of the gigs, please! Please! Vicarious living is my style these days. sloppy kisses, Shannon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Jun 15 20:01:17 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:01:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: North Carolina Message-ID: <3B2A5B7D.E083FA36@netscapeonline.co.uk> Compadresinister "The USS Enterprise is off the shores of this little town right now" says Rob from the south. We cannae go any faster! says this Scot. James T Kirk: used to wear a corset on set cos he was so drunk and had to look in a state of non-fat fitness as he said authoritatively 'beam me up' on the surface Planet Zog anon. As for aircraft carriers, I saw the HMS Ark Royal during a boat tour of Plymouth Harbour undergoing a fit-out. My grandpa engineered guns on the HMS Indefatigable during the Second of our World wars and the fact that we don't have an aircraft carrier of such long name and weighty tonnage at present speaks loudly of our lost heritage. More syllables, anyone? Anyone? Enterprise: 75 and a half thousand tonnes Ark Royal: 43 thousand tonnes Indefatigable: data no longer present. AND SINCE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF CARS LATELY. . . writes the over-achieving but now four-letter-pasted intellectualvoid I'm searching (but found my MOT certificate). Long days on trains and dodgy bus services... (during strikes by guards of the former: information gathered; talks ongoing). Damn nuisanse there's no commuter service on the bus between Dunblane and Edinburgh during a train strike. "i include this only as a sop to those who feel all the talk of the tour has lowered the oozey, funky, sweaty, steamy content of this list to a new low." says Carle Groome. All these points of contact between cyberspace and the material world are apt to make any woman or man nervous. As a result of this fact, it is also a fact that such fears on the event are quickly overcome. Even if it's raining... Kelvinbridge Underground station at 2pm on 16th June can phone [Ally 96] on 07733356611 We'll be waiting at the station exit which leads to the car park I'm repeating info and many people will be aware of this but reminders can do no harm. Well done Alasdair! I applaud you for your efforts. Personally, I don't know what to bring. Maybe sandwiches? I was going to order sweets from this site selling weird sweets, but I had other things to deal with and; too late now. I decided to book accommodation in Glasgow for those 'missing the train' inevitabilities and if you ring (0141) 221 1000 you will get through to the Glasgow Charing X Tower Hotel who, at the moment, still have rooms available: £35 single; about £50 twin. I believe the New Yorkers are having a picnic also. Well done Julie! :) "It is better to be interested in the changing seasons than to be hopelessly in love with Spring" George Santayana how true; Liz Daplyn:) past finals too! why do they call them finals except for the need for respite; relief and well-deserved comfort. :) I'm glad I'm on this list Gordon P.S. I got a book this morning from a certain someone... I'll be reading this on the train... the page bookmarked seemed about right:) Thankyou:) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 00:00:02 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:00:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wheeeeeeeeeee! Message-ID: <002901c0f5ee$ea86d3a0$e5367ad5@oemcomputer> Hi all. Just got back from the 1st night in Glasgow. They covered The Smiths (Boy With The Thorn In His Side), got ***Monica Queen*** on for Lazy Line Painter, had Stuart arrested, did keepie-ups, and generally rawked like motherfuckers :) Can't wait for tomorrow night :) Hellos to: Ailsa, Ally, Sweetie, Jenowl, Jarvis, Ian Hatcher, some guy called John, Karolyne and loads and loads of Americans and Japanese fans. You all rock, kids. Peace. - Jase (http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas) (online diary, if you're bored enough...) http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonandreas/ or for some stories and poems http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonstories/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 00:21:50 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:21:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Wheeeeeeeeeee! References: <002901c0f5ee$ea86d3a0$e5367ad5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <002301c0f5f1$f491e760$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Andreas" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: Sinister: Wheeeeeeeeeee! > Hi all. > > Just got back from the 1st night in Glasgow. > had Stuart arrested, did keepie-ups arrested? "keepie-up"? please explain! :) jay "nothin can compete with the b-r-a double-s y beat" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kheydt at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 01:03:52 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kheydt) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:03:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I've got a voice box and I'm going to use it Message-ID: <3B2AA266.DB6BA779@erols.com> While hunting the elusive Jonathan David I stumbled into a very queer situation. My first attempt at locating my prey was a late night trip to the local mega-super-duper-doper-popmart. The oracle Julie, said I could find said prey on the 12th, to my joy, a week earlier then expected. I verified my information and headed out the door. A quick look about the residence and Jonathan David was nowhere to be found. The hour was late so I thought it best to retire and continue on the morrow. The next day dawned hot and terrible. What is worse my foul minded neighbor is having work done to her home and the workers like to play their whiny-dance-oriented-radio-fodder loud and under my bed chamber window. If I had not a mission that day I would have been forced to flee for my sanity. A quick return to the "you-will-still-purchase-from-us-no-matter-what-the-mark-up-mart" to see if the new day had brought my target out to the open. It had not. My second chance was, as I was confident, a sure-fire one. My new destination lay many more miles away but no danger arose to halt me. At last I had arrived and hope welled inside as I reached the door and entered the altogether-more-exceptable-den-of-commerce. Suddenly, over an intercom, a voice broke through the silence and demanded attention. "This is the Police. Please evacuate the building. An unknown substance has been found in the parking garage. For your safety, please evacuate the premises at once." I was given no choice, an officer entered the shoppe to ensure that the premises could be sealed off. So close, I thought. Yet not as close as I had thought. A store clerk informed me that they were still awaiting the arrival of Jonathan David. So now I ponder, shall I ever hear the song of this much sought beast? Shall my fingers fall off from exposure to this "unknown substance' before I ever make contact? I shall know in less then a fortnight as the forced-to-got-to-yet-again-mega-popmart say they shall receive reshipment. This story is true. yours, kate PS. Danson, Dylan did a movie called "Don't look Back" PPS. "The USS Enterprise is in town" Hey, my brother is on that ship. He's the smallest man in the navy ya know. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeper at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 01:24:10 2001 From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 0:24:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: it's already friday, and soon it'll be friday night. Message-ID: <200106160024.RAA13978@dork.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From localpeople at xxx.uk Fri Jun 15 23:29:40 2001 From: localpeople at xxx.uk (Oo and Jonny) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:29:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I (also) love my car Message-ID: <000b01c0f5ea$ad95c540$31bc82ac@oemcomputer> *nervously coughs* i've finally find the time (well i haven't really, i'm just trying to avoid painting the woodwork in the hall, but will really have to do it soon to avoid a telling off from my partner - she can be harsh, but at least she loves b&s...) where was I? oh, yeah, my first post - a sinister virgin, i've served my time in the nursery like any good boy should, i've read and studied and been in thrall of the various postings i've seen, and itched to speak to you all - now i'm here i feel like the new boy in class with everyone staring and thinking i'm strange. i'm sure i'm not really... the thing i really wanted to talk about was following on from all the car talk - my boring drives to work have been so grately enjoyable these past few days as i've been having a b&s listening bonanza as my excitement increases as jonathan david and preston approach - my journey through the plain(boring)s of cheshire have been somewhat eased through the strains of our favourite band - the journey takes 45 mins or so, so just the right time for an album each way... a couple of things had struck me lately though - the other day, i got in a mild panic after over-sleeping that i might get stuck at this junction that's sometimes backed up - it was clear and my reaction was "thank you god" - strange as i don't believe in god - stranger still as the voice sang "if you're feeling sinister, just go and see a minister" at that exact moment - is the lord working in mysterious ways, i ask? the same day on the way home, i was loudly singing along to "the state that i am in" at a set of traffic lights, when a man got out of a car ahead and tried to open someone's car door in a fit of road rage - the thing was he exactly fitted all stereotypes being about 4'10" with a white vest, white rolled up training pants and somewhat over-developed muscles to match the size of the chip on his shoulder - do his type go to a finishing school to achieve perfection in their field, i wonder? anyway my thought at the time was how much more beautiful (if slightly mental) the world would be if all could see and know the true light of belle and sebastian - then again the world might end up like the old coca cola teach the world to sing type thing, and that might be just too sickeningly sweet - we must retain some bile somewhere... i'm sure i've thoroughly bored you all by now, and my timer's about to go ding, so dulux barley white satin here we go... thank you for listening, the boy with the paint in his hair. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- " only connect..." e.m.forster +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 10:36:56 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:36:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is just a post modern rock post Message-ID: <20010616094236.DEGC294.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.86.14]> I have decided that what I like about Sinister is the way in which it is both loveably naive while remaining sensibly cynical. All the happy stuff on it is somehow bittersweet and all the sad stuff is still sort of upbeat. Also, everyone on it is kind of well, Sinister (in the good sense (take note of parenthesesesesesees)) and is the kind of person who didn't get on well at school. Must invent some B&S content so I'm going to pretend I saw Chris Geddes and Isobel Cambell in the street in London, that being where I live (even though I don't know what they look like). "Really?" I hear you cry. No, not really, that why I said I was going to *pretend* that I had seen them. Maybe I'll say they were snogging. That would cause a stir, wouldn't it? Ok, no, it wouldn't then, be like that. I did, though, tape Jonathan David off the radio and can now listen to it whenever I want. Of course, come Monday I will be able to do that anyway but who cares. Peter Miller mentioned the Master and Margarita which is a very good book and my favourite in the whole world. Mikail Bulgakov was very talented and all of his books are amazing. Especially The White Guard. Read it, NOW. I am re-reading The Hitchiker's guide in respect to it's late author. Can someone explain to me the subtle inflections of Albums, Singles, LPs and EPs as I have never understood which is which really. I have rediscovered Jazz and Mercury Rev. I possibly prefer the latter but Jazz is so good and varied. There really isn't any other kind of music which is so varied within itself while still having a central core. Pop and stuff all sound the same, Rock is varied but it varies so much in some places that it becomes separate. I luv Jazz. I also, in a fit of music Kleptomania taped a Mercury Rev song off the radio which is due to come out in August and I play it so loud on the tube that people keep staring at me like I was some violent thug. It scares me, but not enough to stop me from playing it very loudly. More singles debates. Just to start one, here is provocative statement: All Belle and Sebastian singles are rubbish. I don't beleive it but pretend I do and then you can get all hot under the collar. I hope that one or two of you haven't comitted suicide and spilt blood all over your keyboard, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 12:25:25 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:25:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sleep deprivation and B&S gigs Message-ID: Hello lovely people the Barrowlands gig was absolutely sensational and yes Stuart did get arrested but i don't want to elaborate in case it happens again.It was extremely amusing and rather twee, well at least it would never have happened at a "Rock" concert. Oh yeah Stu was playing "keepie-uppies" on stage with a football and volleyed it into the crowd. There was copious amounts of pass-the-ball until someone threw it onto the stage and hit Isobel's cello (or came very close to hitting it). The only thing that demeaned the concert was my two "lovely" friends who tried to shout above stu et al's singing that "B&S are s***" and "Feeder are much better".hmmmm indeed. Oh yeh they intended to throw a pint into a tuba-esque instrument because it would have been a "gut-laugh" however decided against it.Ahhh those kids eh? Anyway after returning i listened to B&S for a prolonged period of time and only managed to pull myself away around 5 o'clock when i realised i had to get some sleep to get up for the picnic and gig today. :) Have fun people, Danny xxx P.S I got B&S badges :) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sosaidkay at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 17:37:40 2001 From: sosaidkay at xxx.com (Matthew Stead) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:37:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Oxford Picnic!! (and stuff) Message-ID: Mr Hewitt wrote >Also I hearby issue an ultimatum to Swells. 3pm outside the !R!A!H! me and >you, 2 hits, i hit you, you hit the floor, you sad old bald one trick >pony... >anyone else like the moldy peaches? Funny coincedental thingamegigedy happening here. I went to see The Moldy Peaches/Strokes in Bristol. But also, I stood on Swells' foot. Hurrah! I didn't even know it was him. he looked quite angry but only in a not very menacingly fat elf kinda way. So I hope that makes you happy! The Peaches were fandabidosi. I was talking to them afterwards and they seem like really cool guys. We were chatting about cartoons with em. Unfortunately they hadn't ever seen Dogtanien (sp?!). They also drew a very odd looking bunny with a 2ft willy on my T-shirt which was nice of them. Also, afterwards some guy gave me a flyer for the Belle and Sebby tour which got me all excited again. Can't wait for Rah! Is anyone on the list into the Beach Boys/Brian Wilson by the way? You'd all love 'Be True to Your School' for sure. I got a copy of the unreleased Smile album last week and it's wicked. Toledo Matt PS. The Mull Historical Society were mucho dullo. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Sat Jun 16 19:11:21 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:11:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: slightly less rambling than usual Message-ID: hello everyone, it's been *ages* since i last posted, but like a good little girl i've been saving up my things that i wanted to say until now, because i just can't resist it. YORK PICNIC - i know it was a long time ago, but i didn't get to say anything about it at the time. it was grate, me and my friend (who didn't like belle and sebastian at the time, but now loves them thanks to meeting lovely sinisterines) drank babycham and ribena. it was a strange combination. also we had fairy cakes. and the picnic was small, but perfectly formed. there was singing and guitaring and even violin playing, which all in all was hypercool. OFFBEAT - we trekked all the way to sheffield for their very special b & s night, and it was brilliant. they even played pulp's lipgloss for me. but the best things about the whole night were the posters for it that had mr men on them and then a suitable song title, so mr skinny got string bean jean and miss scatterbrain had she's losing it. we liberated quite a lot of them during the course of the night, where there was a great deal of drunkenness. STRANGEWAYS - this is a club in leeds, which we went to last tuesday. it was lots of fun and we met another lovely sinisterine who danced to she's losing it with us. and they played lots of other nice stuff, like i can't stop dreaming of injured popstars and punka. but then we didn't get home 'til 4.30 in the morning, which was really a bit late for me, because my bedtime is supposed to be 8. SCARBOROUGH and IPSWICH - i am now going to 2 of the gigs on the tour, having just bought my ipswich ticket. i'm particularly looking forward to scarborough, because there's going to be millions of us on a bus from york, and because they might play scarborough fair in a simon and garfunkle styleee. maybe each of them could take a part and do it in a round. how gorgeous would that be? i am *hyper* excited JONATHAN DAVID - i got a copy from my uni newspaper, and i got to review it but they never printed it. in a nutshell: jd itself is a grower, carriage clock is brilliant, lonliness isn't as good as the version from the telly. also something else i heard from the campus meeeja people is that they're not doing any interviews for this single, but they probably will for the next one. *fingers crossed* though it seems unlikely. and i can't wait for the peel session. at the moment, there's not much going on in my life that isn't b & s related. *aaargh* they've taken over my life. so i shall say as ever, pip pip, FB X _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 00:21:08 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:21:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Barrowlands. Second Night Message-ID: <002501c0f6bb$06932e00$0d787ad5@oemcomputer> I got them to sing Letter From America!!! Bow down before my greatness!!! Oh yeah, the rest of the gig was good too :) - Jase (http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas) (online diary, if you're bored enough...) http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonandreas/ or for some stories and poems http://www.livejournal.com/users/jasonstories/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kheydt at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 02:13:44 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kheydt) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:13:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Dopelgangers Message-ID: <3B2C0445.7F80E17C@erols.com> > vu sleeper said; "noticed someone who looks like my twin." [ L.A. picnic] I was looking through the photos section of sinister and was shocked to see myself (but with darker hair) attending a picnic that I do not recall and given the name of Trousers_primrose98_2 (third photo in, bottom row). I hope I am not in the bodyparts section as my mother will be very upset with me if I am. Perhaps if there are more of us lookalikes we could start a Sinister Dopelgangers section. No clones please. my feet stink, kheydt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_milton at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 11:42:53 2001 From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: memoirs... (or... how I stumbled upon a teddy bear's picnic) Sinister - Glasgow - 15/06/2001 Message-ID: <20010617104253.15075.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com> ******************************************************* WARNING This mail is incredibly long! Well 4 me @ least ******************************************************* Contents... 1) The Picnic 2) The gig 3) other stuff 1) England 5 - 6 Scotland The Sinister International Football Match The winning goal scored by the silky footwork (Oh, OK he toe poked it!) of one Alisdair Cook! anyway... Never one to be nervous around new people (aye right!) I set out apprehensively to my second Sinister Picnic. (the last one being so long ago that no-one would even hope to remember who I was, having made absolutely no impression on anyone the last time). On the train from Airdrie to Glasgow, my trip descended into cliche from the outset. Sitting on the train, drinking a Capri-sun (a more twee drink you will not find - well except for ribena I guess - that means U JenOwl) listening to a B+S compilation tape and reading Stuart david's new novel. Any person clued in to there music trivia on that train would have laughed. "Look, he's going to a B+S picnic" they would say! I met Amy and Paul (and subsequently Dave and... OH FUCK!!!!!! I hate when that happens! He was so cool but I've forgotten his name. Sorry :-( ) at the underground on buchanan street and we caught the train to Kelvinbridge. We get off the train and we walk out into the sunshine! WTF??? It was freezing in the city centre! Warm in the west end! Well, OK it was overcast and the grass was damp but at least it wasn't freezing! OK, so by this time, I'm bricking it! No-one knows me AARRGGHH!!! I'm introduced to one of the sweetest guys I've EVER met going by the name of John, and he is eagerly showing off his new feather boa (called penelope) and dufflecoat. Then there is Ally Cook! He strides out, Cool as Fuck! And you think... excellent! We waited around for a while, and i realised the one thing lacking in my picnic gear! A PICNIC! I hadn't brought any food! What a plank! So we followed everyone deep into the regions of Kelvingrove park and we found a rather nice (if a little damp) spot to sit down! We hung around and chatted (mostly about bicarbonate of soda and pigeons exploding) and we saw a dog metamorphisise into a man. People began to join us. Sweetie, and JenOwl, and Ia(i)n Radcliffe and other people of whom their names escape me but could not have been nicer to me if they had tried. Paul and I went on our way to buy food on GWR and when we came back even more people had joined us. The food trip itself was notable for the number of times we managed to cross the same road in the shortest possible time. We bought sweeties and juice and al-key-hol, and we bought jaffa cakes too (well they've got sodium bicarbonate in them - we fancied seeing a pigeon explode - although we thought better of it!). I don't know exactly at what point I decided to get up and join the little kick about that was going on with a ball that Ally had just bought but I thought it'd be sociable. We carried on passing the ball around for a little while and then someone decided on a match. England - Scotland. The glasgow Picnic and it seemed there were more english people there than scots. At one point we had an englishman (a really nice bloke - I hate not being able to remember names) on our team. I think the excuse was that his grannies dog's previous owner was born in Scotland. This same englishman however, who subsequently missed a penalty for us.. ahem. :-D The game was a lot of fun. With lots of running about and jumping and cursing my fat arse! And obviously the English scored first. But us scots are resilient (or just stubborn) and we regrouped and destroyed the english (I'm beginning to sound like one of those videos you watch at 'historic Scotland' or the National trust monuments). The score at the start of the email is slightly apocryphal in the fact that, no-one can actually remember what the score was. It turned into those games that end with the cry of "Next Goal's the winner!!!" Eventually we scored and the game was ours! After the game we headed off to the pub and we all sat down and had a drink together. I felt tired and the one moment I decided to shut my eyes, who should turn up with a camera but JenOwl!!! Great! Can't wait to see that one... ;-) I nicked a B+S poster from the wall to go with my idlewild and mogwai advert-posters (y'know the ones I mean, those posters with the credit card booking no. etc) and Paul showed me that Trevor and Simon (remember going live! - swing yer pants etc etc) now have there very own adult stage show on the fringe. Swing yer edible crotchless panties, oo er missus.. whatever would Andi Peter's say? ooo000ooo 2) So Amy and Paul and John and I headed off down to the gig... and we arrived to see there was already a queue. G'damn it!!! But hark! Who's voice do I hear as we pass the queue? No, It can't Be! Jason Andreas! And thus we exploited our good friend's position in the queue and we 'jumped in' with various louder-than-normal-speech asides to each other of 'Oh wasn't that kind of jason to keep us a space all this time' I'm sure we still pissed a few folk off, but hey... All is fair in love and crowd position! We got in and amy and Paul headed off to keep us a space at the barrier. I bought a t-shirt (and then later that night badges and another t-shirt). When I got back there was a space at the barrier waiting for me and the bad news that my girlfriend wasn't gonna arrive until about 9pm. The uptown Shufflers. OMG!!! How cool were those guys! five wee old men (one couldn't have been younger than 70) playing the ballroom tunes of the 20's and 30's. It kinda tugged at my heartstrings a wee bit as I imagine thats what my uncle arnold (kinda like a third grampa to me - and still as spritely as I am and he's in his 70's) would have been like when he was playing the clarinet all those years ago. My girlfriend arrived just 2 or 3 minutes after the shufflers came off and I got so excited as she was there and also my best friend, Andy had just arrived too..:) It was really cool spending the gig with my girlfriend, andy and his gf and my surrogate wee sis(long story of which I'll let amy tell ya's), amy and her boyfriend, my new bezzie mate Paul. Belle and Sebastian came on stage to a lone bagpiper piping away and OMG! Isobel was utterly utterly beautiful! Mick & Stuart looked cool with the tartan trousers and tartan ties, and I thought sarah was really cute, especially when she sang. The first song, sleep the clock around, started with the vocals really low in the mix and I think a good portion of the auidence had a fleeting moment of disappointment, thinking that the sound might be left like that all night but it was fixed by about the third vocal line and the audince cheered when they heard stuart and bel's voices. I was so excited and happy, that I have absolutely no idea what order the set was in except to say that the next song was le pastie de la borgoise which rocked like a bastard. The request slot was so funny. Stevie doing a rather fine rendition of Rod Stewart's d'ya think I'm Sexy made me laugh so much. It was so good! The next suggestion was 'Letter from america' Naebody could play it except mick so he grabs the guitar and show stevie how its done. Stuart beckoned Mick to sing it but he was not for that at all! :-D So stuart took over and what a laugh, Beans came down to the front and gave stuart his glasses and during the verse when no-one knew the words stevie just adlibed a surprisingly accurate holler that sounded almost exactly like the boy from the proclaimers. Anyway, I'm sure I've rattled on about stuff enough and it'll have taken you a good period of time to read up to hear... 3) one last thing before I go... could anyone i met yesterday please be a kind old soul and click on the following link to my petition. You'll see what its all about when you get there... I have a meeting with the director of programming next week and I need to get as many signatures as is possible..:) the address is... http://www.petitiononline.com/troika/petition.html ok.. thanks for reading.. Neil.x. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton at yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 12:38:51 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:38:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Moment Of Conception Message-ID: <120.67a8a4.285df0cb@aol.com> DISCLAIMER: This is an extremely long, digressing, rambling bit of babble. If you're in a hurry...you know the drill. Hello to all the.. 1400.. sinister people out there.. Ah hem. Getting a bit of a stage fright there. I sometimes wonder what kind of people sit at their computers and read away the words I write here. It's quite impossible to imagine, really. I think, that as much as I love this new wee invention called the internet, and the computer, and all the cool gadgets and toys and paraphernalia that come along with it, I still hold the strong opinion that people who sit at their computers reading something intensely do have a tendency to look, well, rather stoned and cut off from the rest of the world. The same opinion I hold of the television, too, actually. (Forgive me if I offend any computer engineer-types who sit at their computers all day actually doing productive things, instead of ee-mailing all your friends and nagging at them to go pick up Jonathan David.) I'm rather sad today, partly because I have gotten absolutely nothing done, I still have not sent all the letters and presents and bits and pieces like that that I was supposed to send quite a while ago, and because I can't decide whether I should go visit Will in New York or not. I also have none of my close friends who have seen me with Will to tell me what to do, because I'm just a baby and I can never tell what I should do with Will. My other friend was having a bit of a crisis with the love of her life the other day. She stayed up until 4 in the morning talking to me and him both on the internet. Which got me thinking about my own love life. It occured to me that Will is the only person I've liked/gone out with/crushed on/whatever you want to call it who does not use the internet (email, messages, etc.). Most of my breakthrough moments in the past two years was through talking with my friends online. So I have a question for you lot, which you can answer or not, depending on your mood. The fact that most of my intellectual stimulation happens online.. Is it because I'm using the internet and reading words and is able to savor them that I make so many more significant ideas, or is it simply because I spend a larger portion of the day by myself at my computer than I do talking in person to other people? It's kind of interesting to think about. Or at least, I think so. I couldn't go to sleep last night, so I stayed in bed for four hours, from midnight until four o'clock in the morning, having imaginary conversations in my head with my little imaginary friends. (No, I do not need any psychological help.) It was fun. Hmm. I think I shall off and stare at the dishes until they clean themselves up. Cheers, Hye Min PS: B&S content- For some reason, whenever I start listening to the Fall's Hex Enduction Hour, I never seem to be able to finish it. Something always comes up in the middle of it, which perhaps explains why the first track, The Classical, is my favorite song on the album. I actually tallied up all the minutes and seconds of each song, and the entire album comes out to exactly 1 hour, give or take 0.3 seconds. Preetty darn cool, eh? Um, yeah, so that never happens with Belle and Sebastian. I can always listen to their albums all the way through. (Fate from the above, I'm sure...) Oh! and I found a GERMAN version of the Smith's William, It Was Really Nothing in mp3 format. I have a long story to tell about that song, too, which I will in my next post. Please do remind me if I forget, unless you don't want to hear, in which case you shouldn't remind me, but I might still write it anyway because I remember this. Whew. I'm off for real this time. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 14:13:47 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:13:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: uptown shufflers Message-ID: i am a very happy bunny. yesterday was kinda the best day ever. after meeting daf, james, and neil at the underground with paul we all headed off to kelvinbridge where we met everyone else. Like Will, JohnJohn and Penelope, Ally96, and loads of other people whose names i didnt know but hello anyways. then after a while we all trooped off to a hill in the park where we sat, daf passed around wine (good plan) and i explained how to make pigeons and seagulls explode. then i met kennybabes!! and iain jarvis arrived! and sweetie!!! then luvvly VelocityGirl arrived!! argh!!! massive hugs all round, followed by Miss Owl and Mr Hatcher and then eventually Her Royal Highness Princess Honey and King List Dad (who had a very nice crochet-sleeve thing going on. Then after a while of talking and eating jaffa cakes jenowl and i decided it would be a good idea to roll down a hill. so we did. then vel and john decided to roll with us, whilst sweetie and The Boyfriend just watched. :) the boys by this point had all gone to play football. we went to watch for a while but it was all far to energetic for me so i pulled my tweety pie jacket a bit tighter (cos i was cold) and some of us headed of to the pub, closely followed by the rest of the Sinister Kids. we drank. then JohnJohn, neily, paul and i headed off to the barrowlands. the gig itself was superb, the uptown shufflers being the best support i've ever seen, they ARE the old men from chewin' the fat who sing "backstairs lavvy" and then after a while B&S came onstage and much swooning took place. murdoch in a tie and tartan trousers!!!! ~swoon~ i cant remember exactly what songs they played but i will say that "do ya think i'm sexy" was one of the highlights, along with "sleep the clock around", "legal man", "arab strap" and "my wandering days are over". i had the bestest night of my life. i giggled when isolbels fly was undone and she was showing her pants too (white ones if you must know). she does have a large bum. but she sings very sweetly so it doesn't matter. big hugs go too....... kenjuggle will and his bunches daf and james HONEY and LINDA!!! iain sweetie jen and ian velocity mark cassarotto and his "will snog for food" sticker ally96 carey richard "i sweat easily" and anyone else that i cant remember. *hugs* right i'm off, adios, amy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Jun 17 14:24:51 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:24:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: odd socks Message-ID: <3B2CAFA3.E6AF8521@netscapeonline.co.uk> Sinister! Neil Milton has already really described yesterday, and so I hope I'm not just writing too much more. As Neil writes, the day comprises a picnic and a gig. People turn up to these gigs spectaculary late! Including me. I was in time for the picnic though, thoughts verging between glacial calm and sheer terror. So once we found the patch of grass I just fell asleep. Call it a power-nap or exhaustion or blind panic. Whatever. One of the dedications in the acknowledgements appending Liz Wurtzel's manic treatise on Womanhood called 'Bitch' to refers to a day-bed in an office. On the way home this morning on the train (only £1.50 extra for an empty weekend first railway carriage in an otherwise busy Aberdeen- bound train and boy did I need that solitude! (queues at the ticket office of Moscow proportions) I thought of the old jazz standard 'What a Difference a Day Makes' (in this case not '24 little hours ago' but less: seeming even longer). The gig, of the two events, was the lesser: it was fabulous. The band who I had reckoned would be nervy and awkward simply rawked with dexterity and finesse. So that was Jason Andreas that got them to sing Proclaimers 500 Miles? Good on ya fella. I'm afraid that towards the end of the show I was getting carried away and singing; yelling along. But the band seemed to be relishing their homelands and it was as much a rock church service as a concert. They were on the beat. The picnic was all people... rather too many to remember, I'm afraid. The first person I met was an American gentleman of whom I'm afraid his name escapes me; Will; Mr. Moore and daughter, then James and Dafyd who helped me towards the park. Ally did look so in control of things! My that man has nerves of steel. On the grass I heard someone giving elaborate instructions over a mobile phone which turned out to be Vicky, I think, then Mark who is another good organizer. I saw Ken trying on the pink boa and remaining the smiling friendly person of #sinister repute. It gradually dawned on me that the person gradually dismembering a langoustine and fiddling with a doll with a slightly stained cheek who had, just earlier, been attacked by a plastic crab from Hallifax, Canada (owned, I should add, buy a charming Canadian couple), was a princess and from there it was a short step to the recognition of surrogate list mummy. The royal couple don't act arch at all but very much at the friendly service of their population; which is an ideal sort of situation. Then the delightful pair of Sunnyset and her bf and the puppy-dog Belle, who's a poser and a kisser:) Idleberry was kind enough to introduce herself. Trousers Stevie was quietly guiding errants like myself (although later than that). Teams contested with football. Paul, hello again and Richard and, an air traffic control officer? (that was in the park talking about a research proposal but re-visited in subject matter later with Ken. After the gig, it was a club at the Art College. Failing to find some people to share a cab, I took my second lonesome taxi journey of the evening and arrived somewhat in advance, listening to some great loud pulsing music upstairs. Downstairs both Gail and Carey were extremely kind to me: people being there for me, and I'm extremely grateful for the emotional support. Thanks :) Outside, I bump into someone who in a vague sense has seemed curiously familiar for several hours so I'm afraid this might have sounded rather cheesy when I said 'do I know you?' quizzically. It's Milky! And two of her friends. Then a stroll back to hotel room. Then cleaner comes into room. Then messages flash up on the TV about when to check -out. Home now... just, and messages bought and a Father's Day Present. (that's probably irrelevantly scatter-brained:) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 17:06:51 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:06:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: You were Jonathan to Stuart David Message-ID: Um, the past two days. Belle and Sebastian gig! Sinister picnic! Another Belle and Sebastian gig! I haven't calmed down yet. I don't think it's sunk in yet. Lots of people have already posted long posts about how wonderful everything was, so there's not much point in me trying to do the same, even if i could remember everything that happened to me and what order it happened in. Friday afternoon; everybody was meeting up in a pub by Central Station. Me, john, sweetie, karolyne and adam met a small crowd of people which soon changed into a very large crowd of people. I was scared and didn't talk to anyone, but eventually we went to the GIG! which was wonderful and lovely and brilliant and all those words. Saturday morning: i tried to get back to glasgow. The trains weren't running. Arse. I trundled about scotland on a variety of trains and coaches, got to Queen Street station late, without time to buy food and panicking. Me and john rushed to the underground, and managed to get there before everybody else. To kill time, we rode up and down the escalators for a bit. Eventually, of course, another big huge scary crowd of people arrived. However, this time they weren't as frightening, which was nice. We sat on a hill and ate; well, most people did, some just rolled down it. Apparently, it was the biggest Sinister picnic ever ever ever in recorded history. Some mad people went off to play football. Others just sat around, talked, and got snogged by Sunnyset's lovely dog. Eventually everybody wandered off and colonised a different pub, where we sat around in wee groups and talked before drifting into eastbound taxis. And we got to the gig, which was even better than before. Friday night might have had Stuart's onstage arrest and a special guest visit from Monica Queen, but Saturday had a little furry highland coo that mooed, *two* audience-request songs, and even an encore, of all things. And then, I had to wander back through glasgow and get the train back home again. And that was it. All over. I couldn't sleep, of course. Incidentally, there was a rumour going round that there was a boy at the picnic with his hair in pigtails. I'm sure this must be a myth, because *i* definitely didn't see anyone that looked like that. ;-) right, that's me. love xx gneissy (oh, the subject line -- it got sung at one point last night by one of those lovely chaps onstage. ok? ) -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 16:41:59 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:41:59 Subject: Sinister: strange weekends. Message-ID: Greetings. A little note about myself - perhaps 1400 people won't want to read it (though Cliff may be interested), but I'll write it nonetheless, since some people may be able to empathise. I spent the weekend with my girlfriend. I've had a strange weekend. On Friday I had a lovely time with my friends and my girlie in Camden, and all was lovely. We drank beer and strange jugs of stranger cocktails, although I was a little nervous because it was the first time that my friends had met my girlfriend. But it went fine. We went home, and everything was ridiculously lovely. Then Saturday was one of those bizarre days. We woke up, and everything started to go wrong. My acoustic guitar was in the wrong place when a heavy object chose to fall over, and the guitar got a dent right on the binding. That was scary, but it's just a cosmetic dent, apparently - no sound quality loss. But that put me on edge, made me a bit jittery. We spent the afternoon watching Glastonbury 1998 footage, which was really fun, actually. Nostalgia. Then I said that I'd make dinner, and then things went horribly wrong in every way. I overcooked this, undercooked that, and forgot to cover this or season that, and I felt really shit, because I'd fucked up a recipe that I normally do brilliantly, and I'd already told me girlie that I was okay at cooking. It just pissed me off and made me really tearful. And then the fact that I was being irrationally tearful made me tearful even more, and it was horrid. She was lovely to me, but I just felt really despairing and shit. We watched The Shawshank Redemption in the evening, which is a film I really like, and which is good at pulling me from bad-feeling, but even so I was glad when I fell asleep at the end of that day, because it had been horrible. Today was better. We just lazed round the house, then she had to go. I told her I was sorry and thanked her for understanding, but I still felt wrong. We listened to the Avalanches album (truly fab) and the new BranVan3000 record, which has some gorgeous songs on it. The whole weekend had some very B&S bits to it. Friday was "My Wandering Days Are Over" all the time, and then Saturday was "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying", and well, it was just stressful, but the whole blow was softened by girl and music. Hmmm... I've kinda forgotton what the point of the story was. In the words of Price, "I was dreaming when I wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray". Anyway, thank you for listening. I think one of the great things about Sinister is the fact that people can get things out in the open. This has been a very cathartic exercise. This will probably be the most list-abuse you'll ever hear from me. love S.x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xtimhilesx at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 17:06:48 2001 From: xtimhilesx at xxx.com (the_wonder_drug that_works_wonders) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:06:48 Subject: Sinister: Finally a face to go with your name. Message-ID: I am a jealous individual. Providence, RI is my home. If I were living in Europe, I would be having the time of my life right now. I'd almost definately be at every picnic and B&S performance. I once told someone that if B&S came any where in the U.S. I'd already have my tickets in hand. Will they ever come here?!?!? I bought the new single on tuesday. Its incredible. Mine is a promotional copy. I'm not so sure it was actually for sale, but I convinced the guy from behind the counter that it was. So, as I have never come across any postings from Providence locals, I'll tell a little about this city for anyone caring to read. The city is small, its located on the east coast situated in the middle of the metropolitan cities of Boston and New York. The city has become more beautiful as time progresses. Our mayor is actually under endictment for laundering. This really surprises no one in the state since everyone here knows that we're a mob run state. So right now I'm not exactly making Providence sound too nice. But it really is. There are not so nice sections of the city obviously, but the city is renovating itself. The difference of this city in the last six years is astounding and we actually do owe it all to our corrupted mayor. There are public works of art located all over the east side and downtown. There are many green parks where these artworks are displayed. We have famous collegiate schools. Rhode Island School of Design. We also have the famed Ivy League school of Brown University. We have some nice record stores here, one in particular is overrun with pretentious assholes. I try not to enter that store. Another record store is owned by a nice kid named Al Barkley. Its a diy punk rock record store. He doesn't sell Belle & Sebastian but he does have the latest "the (international) noise conspiracy" record. We have these nice Ice Cream stands that sell DoleWhip. which was advertised as dairy free. Its this soft serve ice cream that apparently is made out of fruit. Well, finally someone decided to look at the ingredients a year later and found out that the "pasty-faced vegans" were not eating a vegan delicacy as it contains a sodium casinate...a milk derivitive. It wasn't a happy day in mudville after that. We have quite a few nice places for underground music performance. The most common for bigger bands from out of town is "Lupo's", and its more modest sidekick "The Met". The next best place to attend a great show is at Fort Thunder although..they might have actually stopped putting on shows. Its an loft in a huge warehouse building. The place is an incredible arrangement of anything they find, make, or break placed on the walls, floors, ceilings. It is/was the coolest spectacular live-in art space. I can't even describe it efficiently. I remember one time they hosted a halloween party with a maze as the entrance. This maze was so well constructed and to top it off they had different people with various analog/digital synths creating sound. the maze took us about 10 minutes to go through. Due to Fort Thunder not being able to put on shows, they have another smaller space called Munch House. I saw Calvin Johnson and the singer/guitarist of Wolf Colonel play there acoustic. We have the AS220, its more of an theater/poetry reading spot, than a place for bands. They have lots of different workshops, including a dark room, and there is always an art exhibit. Although I have seen many bands play there. Ida being the best. They are incredible live. Another place for bands to rock is in my friends basement. Its usually punk rock bands but still the kids are usually very friendly. Well...I've been sitting here writing for about an hour and the tenth time i've listened to "Sing Jonathan David" so i'm going to finish up before I stop liking this CD. I will end this story with my best friend jeremy, left me for Europe. I think he plans on living in Brussels. I told him that since he has the opportunity to see B&S...take advantage and send me something. If you see a nice lad by the name of Jeremy in Brussels...tell him I said I miss him. love, timmyhiles _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 19:02:10 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:02:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fuckin' Brilliant! Message-ID: <000001c0f757$e45d2960$57087ad5@default> Hi All, (That's not me swearing, BTW - that's just what Stuart Murdoch exclaimed before leaving the stage last night.) He was right of course, but let's not begin at the end. G-IGOK I knew that the concerts would be good when I read the registration of Go's B737 at Stansted. I'M SUCH A CRAPPER Stuart Murdoch's aside after explaining why he was spraying Lady Sure on his fingers having sat down to play the piano for the first time on Friday. Friday's setlist reads: Grooving With Mr Blue (sic) Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie There's Too Much Love The Magic Of A Kind Word I Know Where The Summer Goes Dog On Wheels Jonathan David Slow Graffiti The Model (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique Request - The Boy With The Thorn In His Side Simple Things Arab Strap Fox In The Snow Family Tree Like Dylan In The Movies I Love My Car The Wrong Girl Woman's Realm Legal Man Lazy Line Painter Jane Opener a cover of the harmonica-lead instrumental number which was a UK hit from the Summer of 1970 by Mr Bloe. (I know that nearly all of you knew that, but one person *did* ask me) The Stuart being arrested shenanigans were him talking about worrying about an unpaid speeding fine so Stevie saying he needed a ..... Legal Man! before playing the song. Two coppers came on stage halfway through the track to arrest Stuart & dragged him off at the end. He then reappears with Monica Queen both wearing the policemen's caps (Monica having made short shrift of the fuzz) to launch into a storming version of LLPJ with a smiling Isobel playing thunderous bass. Oh, Friday fashion section: Isobel in bright red ?PVC jacket, blue & green tartan A-line skirt, white ankle socks with New York New York & skyscraper skyline pattern on, quality red high heels. Stuart in Denis The Menace & Gnasher tee. I DON'T LIKE TEETH THINGS, CLOWNS OR EMPTY ROCKING CHAIRS Proclaimed Cabbage* rather disturbingly in the pub at Saturday lunchtime, where the 80/- Ale/IPA washed down the (pretty good) food from the Grosvenor Café across the road. Breakfast for Treacle & I, lunch for Cabbage, Sprout, Vicky & BG Mark. Not sure which meal it was for the bloke (arms of sex) in the corner. I'VE BEEN FELLATED SO MANY TIMES THANKS TO SINISTER A grateful listee to Princess Honey at the picnic in Kelvingrove Park (on pretty green if damp slope with view of the University rising above the trees) Honey's nails plain taupe on Friday - glittery on Saturday. Bel (the dog) was a true star, having learned all about holding a pose from someone amongst the 50+ at the pinic. I'M DISAVOWING THE ARTIFICE OF THE NON-POSE Explained the photogenic Le Troussé whilst we admired The Pinefox's picnic piccies amidst spiral fries & cocktails before we taxi-ed off to the gig. Then P F talked of the globalised world after a discussion with Carey about formalism. IS THAT YOUR AYRSHIRE BACON? NO, I'M JUST KEEPING MY HANDS WARM Uptown Shufflers (definitely top ranking!) joke on the subject of the Sousaphone player's origin. SATURDAY GIG The charming young lady behind the merchie stall (Make Yours A Banchory, listees) promised more songs & a better performance & was of course also correct. Even tighter, having more fun on stage, better reaction from (bigger, I thought) audience compared to the previous evening. Both nights: sound excellent, strings superb, speedy instrument changes, all good. Belfast Bob contributing more on bass (& other guitars) than STuD (sorry Pookie) BTW lots of new tees, 4 new badges, 2 new mugs, mouse mats soon, for whoever it was that asked. I COULD EVEN FIND IT IN MY HEART TO LOVE MIKE LOVE Line from new song I Love My Car, played both nights at the Barras (Saturday more pounding, rock) with Uptown accompaniment. I love my car, I love my dog, I love my pussy cat, I love the rat under the floor, but I can't love you. One day I'll look in your eyes & you won't be there. (Gross paraphrase, sorry) Sounds like? Bit from the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band's My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe, bit from Dexy's Midnight Runners' Come On Eileen, bit from Small Faces' Itchycoo Park. And good :) In my head all day today. LEGAL MAN The extended section with Stuart on bass & everyone else beating the shit out of various percussion was great & may make me reconsider my opinion of the song. HOW COMPLETE DOES A COVER VERSION HAVE TO BE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT LIST? Stevie Reverb played 3 or 4 notes of the intros to The Beatles' Blackbird before Wrong Girl & The Stones' Last Time before Legal Man. IT Gradually dawned that the set list I humiliated myself to get on Saturday was incorrect, (from another performance, ?earlier in the week? Included below in case its useful to anybody), so apologies to Giita & the other girl who copied it from me. Those with better memories can fill in the gaps between Sleep The Clock Around (complete with piper whose kilt was lifted by Isobel as she walked on stage) & encore The Zombies' Time Of The Season (ace version BTW) LANDSLIDE During an Divine set post-gig at The Art School (all top 60's-ish danceable tunes during the 3 or so hours I was there, no duds) Andy Symington played a version of THAT song. If controversy still exists about the tune played at The Bowlie he said that it *was* by Belle and Sebastian, the version was sung by Evie Sands & that it might be released this summer. MMMM, CHEAP DRINK Our man under Steve Albini's mixing desk reckons that Cheap Trick are to headline ATP 2002. FOR PETER Sorry, didn't go in The Saracen Head, but neither did anyone else :) Youngsters mostly already listed, so Old School Sinister present included Keith, Chris, Tag, Elizabeth, Warrender John, Trousers, Honey, Linda, Joss. Usual apologies to those who my fading memory omits. (Plus, 12 hours sleep since Thursday morning not enough :( ) SO, THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAD A HAND IN ARRANGING THE GLASGOW GIGS, THEY WERE GREAT! SPECIAL THANKS To video stars The Care Bears. Dodgy setlist: Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie Woman's Realm The Magic Of A Kind Word I Know Where The Summer Goes If You're Feeling Sinister Jonathan David Don't Leave The Light On Baby The Model (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique) Simple Things The Boy With The Arab Strap Fox In The Snow Family Tree Mayfly I Love My Car There's Too Much Love The Wrong Girl Legal Man *Cabbage = Chris Brown Sprout = Phil Brown Treacle = Sally Moore Sparky = Joey SLEEP THE CLOCK AROUND I bloody hope so! Love to all, "Daddy" Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartf1 at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 19:02:36 2001 From: stuartf1 at xxx.com (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:02:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bournemouth Tickets here! Message-ID: <000701c0f759$32c81fa0$1637883e@v7x7j9> I'm really sorry for this blatant list abuse, but this a message on behalf of a friend... "I have two Bournemouth tickets for sale as unfortunately I can't make it to the gig on July 3rd. 2 tickets for Bournemouth Pavillion on July 3rd. Seats 1&2 in Row E Doors 7pm Tickets cost £23 the pair - however I am open to offers. My mobile no. is 07941 431 492 (no funny stuff) ask for Samanthi thank you!" Thanks again and my humble apologies. I'm off to see the Strokes / Moldy Peaches as penitence. Stuart +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Jun 17 20:41:27 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: picnics and headaches Message-ID: <20010617194127.23052.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> hello all, big hellos to everyone at the picnic in Glasgow on 16/6. You're all possibly very intimidating at first, and had it not been that you were all looking fantastically stylish (lovely ties! t shirts! sexy skirts! and THAT extremely funky pink feather boa!) outside Kelvinwhatever Station, (Mr A Cook! you did indeed tell me to go to Kelvinnhall, not Kelvinbridge!!) I might have thought you were going to mug me. Never mind, I couldn't get me any chupa chups (good currency for buying friends. But chocolate buttons buy puppy love.) And I'm looking forward to seeing puppy power come to the sinister pages. Having never been to one of those things before, I really didn't know what to expect. But I did enjoy chatting with everyone who spoke to me. My only problem is I talk loads of guff when I drink (which I wasn't at the picnic) and even more when I'm feeling a bit "wo ha!" out there sort of thing. I imagine bungee jumping is less scary in prospect. Even for a girl like moi who is scared of heights. (Man wasn't meant to go up high).Anyway, yours trully is waffling. And I got a fan! I was told so! bless! My ego is irretrievable now, even if it was only said for a dare. And That Stuart Murdoch. Git. I got a sore head still today, and am hoping my forehead doesn't turn purple and yellow. He hit me with a stick of rock. I still can't raise my eyebrows in a comedy expression type way cos it hurts. Who wants to kiss it better for me? I'm such a big cry baby aren't I. Even men don't whinge and whimper this much when they get hurt or ill. Bumped into a bunch of folk I didn't expect to bump into. Old friends I haven't seen in years. What an extremely perculiar day it was yesterday. strangers and old friends. I hope theres going to be more of that. I like it. It gives me something to write about. cheers idle(Kristin)berry ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 11:47:36 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:47:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Who's your daddy? Message-ID: <20010618104736.67030.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> I'm not a very sociable person, me. On Saturday I went to the biggest Scottish picnic ever (I think London still holds the international record, just about) and only met three new people. Jenowl hugged me! John John foisted Haribo sours and peanut cookies on me! Will, er, had plaits! I spotted Sunnyset because of her lovely, bouncy doggy but couldn't go and say hello because bouncy doggies and fishnet tights are a bad combination. Claws can easily get caught in little holes and I had no intention of looking like a St Trinian, so I stayed uphill and unladdered. I had considered going into the Saracens Head and saying "Oh ja, dahling, that's fabulous sweetie!" down my mobile phone in a very loud voice, but I didn't fancy being glassed so I left it to Ailsa to be well hard and went straight into the Barrowlands Ballroom and waltzed down the front. And, and, and! Then I finally saw Belle & Sebastian after a twenty-six month wait which began when I didn't get tickets for the Bowlie. The best bits were: - Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie, which really did ROCK. The girls' harmonies were spot on and the violins were triffic. - My Wandering Days Are Over - only the second time they've played it and the first time was a complete shambles, according to Mistopher Chris. It could have been a bit faster, but it was still a *moment* - Da ya Think I'm Sexy? in which Stevie became a ROCK GOD. If only he'd been wearing leopard print, eh? Rrrraow! Unfortunately he ruined the ROCK image shortly after by making a toy sheep baaaa into the microphone. Hmm. - The vibraphone coming in very, very loud in Mayfly and sounding like somebody farting down the microphone Other random observations: - Belfast Bob has Gay Dad hair - The merchandise I saw were four new badges (a website one, a BSPD one, one with a seventies looking couple and a blue and red one), a blue t-shirt with a drawing of Struan's car in pink and apparently there was a t-shirt with the seventies looking couple and some mugs too, but the merchandise stand was mobbed and I couldn't get close. I'll save my pennies for the Albert Hall. - Struan needs a couple of good hot dinners. His arse didn't fill out the tartan trews very well. I am tempted to make a comment about arse transplants at this point, but will refrain. - I'm not sure about I Love My Car. It reminds me of those oompah things Blur used to do. One other thing, and I'm not sure if it's good or bad. They did an encore. I don't think they've ever done an encore before. Have they sold out? I don't think so. After all, they didn't keep us shouting and stamping for more than about five seconds. If they were bastardy too-big-for-their-boots sell-outs, they'd have stayed backstage and made us wait for five minutes and milked it, man. And when they came back they did a jolly good Time of the Season which had me klok-clap-ahhing long into the next day. I think that might have been annoying to the people I was with. After the gig, we went to the Art School where I went a bit dozy because I'd been for 23 hours with no sleep so I was ROCK, if a bit ratty. But things livened up considerably when the Pinefox got in a fight! He would be the Chris Eubank of Sinister, if Chris Eubank wore purple jumpers. Big hugs to everyone who was there. I'm still all grinny. Can't wait for R!A!H! Lucy x ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Mon Jun 18 13:02:36 2001 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:02:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: such a lovely day and i'm glad you feel the same References: <20010618104736.67030.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B2DEDDC.B438F534@pacbell.net> hello :D this is a little late but i'd like to talk about the los angeles picnic which i felt was really a fine time. i thought everyone was really nice and my lady and brother felt the same way about everyone else. i felt really super bad that i got there late AND i left early but i hope everyone can forgive me for that. reasons being a certain game 7 of my favorite hockey team and a family dinner for my brother later that evening. but i think everyone had a fine time and i'm really happy i made some nice friends. yep :) okay. ummm nothing else happening in my camp. i've seen a lot of bands this past week, uhh.. mogwai, built to spill, travis, doves and tortoise. all really really good and i'm quite excited for them. i'm really happy next month i get to see air, charlatans and teenage fanclub but i just hope the charlies and tfc havnt sold out because i'm getting them later today. maybe i'll see some more sinister kids at these shows? yuh. ummm i like the new travis, it's not a huge musical leap anywhere but it's quite a good standstill. the new radiohead is very good. the new tortoise is hypnotizing. the new air is growing on me at a accelerated rate. that's all, thank you for your time. ummm, daniel ryder is my name-oh! http://innervosa.net/red/ (will be updated daily) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/groophug icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Mon Jun 18 13:27:35 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:27:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Virtually Glasgow Message-ID: ello babies I must say I thought Monica Queen was fantastic on friday nite, although the sound quality on Saturday wasn't nearly as good, kept breaking up, and i only talked to 5 people at the picnic, and most of that was bitching, at least being two (three?) hundred and whatever miles away I didn't get a wet bum from sitting on damp grass... Ah yes, the wonders of mobile telephony. I shall never again look askance at someone holding a mobile up at a gig, although anyone watching me dance around the kitchen like a fool during LLPJ, phone clamped twixt ear and shoulder must have thought i was a bit potty, Mrs Carsmile certainly did... And if only i'd got jooliewoolie's post before leaving work on friday, i could've been at the Nude York picnic too, that would've been good, beneath the giant phallus. So big !P!R!O!P!S! are due to Mr Cabbage and Mr Cassarotto for their phone wielding skills. Right I'm off to HMV (with birthday voucher, i hasten to add, support your local friendly independant record shop i say) for the purchasing of jonathan D. Now, should i listen to it on the crappy speakers in my office computer surrounded by the ppl i work with going "what's this" "belle and who?" etc or wait til i get home, decisions decisions... And don't forget Thursday: Sussed, Oxford Saturday: Picnic, Oxford those of you who can't be there, be virtually there via the wonders of modern technology :) xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 13:48:15 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:48:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A message from a friend... Message-ID: I'm not sure I should be doing this but I have a friend who would like to share a belle and sebastain experience with you all... she looked at me so pityingly and with such big eyes i gave in to her plaintive pleas... So here it is... I hope nobody minds: Things have been a little crazy the last couple of days and I'm not entirely sure what to make of it... In my little life I don't think I have ever encountered quite as much excitment in such a short space of time...except maybe the time that I ran in the sea and with my head held high in the air and I realised that my feet were no longer touching the ground... but no I think that this was better than all of that... I knew something was happening when I saw the girl packing the bag... she put in my ball so I pulled it out and ran around the room... she took it off me and told me to be patient... she looked a little worried. The boy got my lead and we all went to wait by the front door... so then I knew we were going on a longer adventure than the normal treks into the park... And before I knew it I was on another train... i will tell you a funny thing about trains. They are really quite good fun! At first I couldn't understand them and they scared me but I have long since changed my mind. As soon as you get on one you just know that something interesting is about to happen. You can hear the low rumble in the distance and fairly soon you will see the long snake like shape rolling towards you. I looked up at the girl and she smiled down. I could tell she understood about trains too. We finally got out at a place I recognised, I had been there the previous weekend but only for a little while, it hadn't been the best walk I had ever had. Too many people ignoring me, not enough fields to walk in, but it had been a walk to another train so I wondered if this was what was happening today. Well I can tell you now that it wasn't, but don't worry it was better than another train. We walked to a place where a group of people were stood around. I wasn't sure what was going on because the girl and the boy were very quiet so I couldn't ask them just then what was happening. And then somebody came up to speak to us. Strangely enough he knew my name but not the girl's he called her "sunnyset". Between you and me that is not really her name. I wasn't sure if she got confused becuase from then on she sometimes introduced her self by her real name and sometimes by this sunnyset name. I asked her about it later and she laughed and said "it is just like when I call you 'smell' even though I know that isn't your proper name." I wasn't sure I understood. Well this group of people seemed very nice indeed and they seemed to know what they were doing too.It is just as well really because I wasn't entirely sure that the boy and the girl did. So we followed them into a park and found another group of people. You will never guess what though? They were all surrounded by pidgeons! You must know how much I love pidgeons? They are so amazing you can see them walking along the ground, so you walk slowly and carefuly towards them but before you know it they are in the air. It seems like a pretty clever thing to do to me and if I ever get close enough I will ask them exactly how its done. Once the pidgeons were out of reach I started to look around at all of the people. I was so excited becuase people started to come up to talk to me. I just had to give them all a kiss they were so lovely. I didn't know why the girl didn't do the same she seemed pretty quiet still. She told me that it's not always as easy as all that and just because she didn't kiss everyone it didn't mean she didn't think they were all lovely. I told her maybe she should try next time becuase kissing everyone was so much fun. She laughed and said maybe if I had my confidence that is exactly what I would do. I don't know what she means by that becuase she is so confident really. She doesn't run away when the hair dryer or the hoover attacks her and she once saw a bicylce on the pavement and walked straight past it without even flinching. One girl gave me chocolate buttons. I don't know if you have ever had them before but if not they are lovely and you should. They are so much nicer than my meat and they are even nicer than carrots! I told the guineapigs that when I got home. They are always boasting because they get carrots everday and I only get them if they fall on the floor by accident. These people all seemed to know the band that I am named after so that made me feel very special. To be honest until then I wasn't sure if it was something that the girl made up just to make me feel happy but now that I know they are real and everybody else said how brilliant they are I feel very important. I think that is why I had my picture taken to be honest. I'm a little bit famous or something. I couldn't dissapoint my public and of course posed nicely for the camera. I'm not about to turn into one of these stuck up superstars! Eventually, after we had all been there for a little while, we went for a little walk to a pub! I felt so very grown-up being allowed in but my feeling of pride didn't last too long as I fell asleep quite quickly and before I knew it it was time to go. I asked the girl whether we would see any of these people again and she said she hoped so. I hope so too becuase they were all so nice. Anyway me and the girl have struck up a deal: I am going to teach her the running up to people and kissing them trick and she is going to teach me the how to stand up to hoovers trick! Love and extra kisses Belle xx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 13:55:14 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:55:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i thought it was braw (glasgoo) Message-ID: <3B3204AD@MailAndNews.com> Hello, I was trying to write a post about the affairs (heh) that happened in Glasgow, but as I tried to think I couldn't really remember much, apart from things like... - arriving to glasgoooo on friday, and already was told to go to a pub, mmmmm DRINKS, which sets the theme for the whole weekend. - at the pub met up with friends and families (well, mummies), and got a phone call from my mate from home who got my degree result for me, and I am a clever bastard and I got a first!! Yay! That sets the mood for the whole weekend. - was meant to meet up with the guy who had my ticket, waited for an hour but couldn't manage to meet him nor hear from him nor imagine what he looks like nor anything at all. Which was not very nice, and so had to continue a 3-hour long seek for a ticket for Friday from that rival band to Steps, finally got one from the band manager type guy who was great and sold me a ticket for 12 pounds, he didn't show us his arse for a pound tho. - after getting a ticket to the gig, I decided that going to the gig would be an idea, and went to the gig, and it was rather good with Belle & Sebastian in it, I dunno what you are all talking about Isobel is lovely and her arse althought not as nice as mine is still fantarsetic, she didn't show us her arse for a pound either. - then went to the after gig party, and drank stuff, then went to the after gig party partick, after waiting for a taxi for a bluddy hour, and drank more stuff, and watched some weird scottish bands videoes, and then went to kip after babbling drunken stuff about a football field and safeways carparks (god knows), I didn't show anyone my arse for a pound but I probably would have if someone asked. - woke up feeling a bit sinister, and went to the sinister picnic, on our way there we went past a church but I couldn't see no ministers, but chances are he thought it was better to play with himself. The picnic was great and people talked to each other and some went to play with a football, we then went to the pub before the gig, some people played with a pool cue, while some stroked the balls, so everyone was happy. - going to the gig thinking that it would be just like the day before, but it wasn't, when they played "we ruled the school" for some strange reason it made me feel that my life is really shit and I felt really emotional, but for some even more strange reason then i remembered how much i loved belle and sebastian and thought that was the best gig in the world ever. - all the beautiful chords and sounds were too much for me and I felt a wee drop of tear around my peepers. - went to the after gig party, at the art school, which was a 4893 mile walk away, which isn't fun after running around like a loon in football in the afternoon, but made it, and had a great time, and some boys and girls seemed to also have a good time, playing with each other, I didn't see any pool cues tho, I thought it was rude to look. - then sunday we chilled in a pub for lunch and drinks, and watched folks playing folk music in this pub called uclkejqqr bertha, which was named after a girl called Bertha who was an alcoholic and drank loads of whisky. We, on behalf of Steven Wells donated £6.17 to some guy in the pub who was planning to do a Parachute-jump for charity, well done Steven you have finally done something right. - The whole weekend was rounded off when everyone buggered off home and me and calumn dobber and PF paid a tribute to the time when before B&S got famous, by recreating "My Wondering Days Are Over" and a few other classics on a 1/2 tuned piano and 1 guitar with 2 strings missing and 3 harmonious voices, which was delightfully mixed to perfection by Beck's lager, the piano didn't sound detuned to us. So, in summery, I saw them on friday, took them for a drink on saturday, and then something or other on the other days and we chilled on sunday. Can't wait until I get back to Milton Keynes on Wednesday, cos scotland is rubbish and I get to see Limp Bizkit in MK on Saturday. Isobel's Bum and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: I haven't mentioned many names but I do remember every single one of you I talked to, I think, so feel warm and get the "aww ken remembered me" feeling anyways, hmm if you were one of those girls who were snogging me whilst i was in the memory lapse um I'm sorry but you'll have to try harder to make an impression next time. ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Mon Jun 18 15:02:41 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:02:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I know you will forgive me for my honesty Message-ID: > I've picked a silly busy day for my first ever post, I know, but I > am brimming with frustration. Please forgive me for any exited rambling > which follows. My newly purchased copy of Jonathan David rests teasingly > in the CD Drive of my 'pooter, but I can't listen to it until 1pm when my > ear will be free of the headset that teathers me to my job. (I have > somehow managed to miss any radio plays). > > RAH is just eleven days away and I have had to resort to giving my > second ticket to my mate Simmy who's entire B & S knowledge consists of > the fact that he "quite likes that tune from the titles to "Teachers" > (TBWTAS) on channel 4". Ah well, just got back from a weeks holiday in > Crete (too hot, not enough drizzle) and wore my red dotty B&S T shirt one > night when my mates were 'on the pull' in Malia (Crete's own Ibiza > apparently) - no-one recognised it. I feel like my old mates aren't who > they used to be - or I'm not. It's not a nice feeling. Don't want to admit > it, but am secretly (ish) pinning hopes on U guys to help me 'belong' > again, there I go wearing desperation on my forehead again. The few > sinisterines I've met so far were ace (May 24th, Sinister Fitba) , hello > to you all esp. Mark Vicky, Chris, Martin. > > Are there any other sinister civil servants or government workers > out there? (actually, I know there are I cheated) Lets hear about you and > what you do. Faceless bureaucrats shuffling papers for a living is fine > eh? > What with election and everything I don't know my MAFFs from my > DEFRAs or my DETRs from my (ahem) elbow, and I'm supposed to advise the > (frequently angry) great british public (bless 'em)!! > > Neil Milton said...... > > "England 5 - 6 Scotland > The Sinister International Football Match > > The winning goal scored by the silky footwork (Oh, OK > he toe poked it!) of one Alisdair Cook!" > > Hopefully there'll be a second leg at the proposed Picnic the day > after RAH. The England squad was obviously under strength due to overseas > club commitments. If away goals count double lets pack the defence with > big girls and go for the one nil. > > Hoorah, it's now gone 1pm and I've got JD on repeat. The first time > it played my headphones weren't plugged in fully and the were barely > audible vocals under a swirl of instrumental, and It still sounded *grate* > (I think that's the correct term around these parts). > > Hope that was OK - hover....and....click > > Hello and Bye bye > > Ben > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zvoruna at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 16:20:34 2001 From: zvoruna at xxx.com (zvoruna) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:20:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: where the New York City picnics aren't bleeding me... Message-ID: <570520016118152034921@starmail.com> hello. my trip to the NYC belle picnic was a quiet one. sounds quite sinister to lay there in the grass and watch a picnic unfold. too shy to join in. really, i'm not a creep or a pervert though me telling you this would be your first indication to believe the exact opposite. i didn't have anything to add. i didn't bring any treats or cute blue blow-up bunnies. maybe next time. are there any sinister people out there who showed up for a picnic.... and then didn't go? z~* _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 16:30:20 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:30:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: It's not like we'll never know looooove Message-ID: Hello friends, This list is full of content these days, so I won't write about anything B&S related even if I saw the best gig ever on Saturday night. [Elena tries to think of something else] Argh sorry I can't resist! Saturday night was just amazing and I felt all weird inside afterwards. Also, before anyone lies, don't believe any person who says I have jumped around like a frog two hours before the gigs, ate my fingernails and said a hundred times "I am so excited I'm gonna die", cos that is not true. Pff like I would get that excited about seeing B&S for the first time in my life. On the way to Glasgow we were in a carriage full of old respectable ladies, apparently off to Gaslgow to have lots of fun like old ladies do once their boring husbands died, and Chris and Martin kept giggling because of their funny conversations. Also they got a bit shocked when Martin said rude words on the phone in front of her, but I think they were nice, all in all. More quiet than the lads on the way back, anyway. I met so many people this week-end I won't get on and on because I will forget some and they might get upset. But it was lovely, no need to say. Calvert Road is now the Crush-Vote house: Mike, Larry and me, that is three people crushed recently: can you do any better?? ner ner ner. I am off on holidays for a month in exactly 18 minutes. No need to say I am NOT excited. I hope you will miss me lots. But I will be back, as always. La la laaaa Elena xx PS: Jonathan David makes me jump all around the house like mad. I wish I was classy like Lixi and would not get excited like a 5 year old. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JLane at xxx.uk Mon Jun 18 16:48:27 2001 From: JLane at xxx.uk (Lane, James) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: glasgow review Message-ID: <200D934D6F9E93488C71C4FAE879C8AA6C9E0E@rcs_exchange.rcseng.ac.uk> hello sinsters... i like a few others made the pilgramidge from the city of london to the wee scottish city of glasgow to see those conquering heros, bell and sebastain, play their home town on saturday. fly up and stayed with me scottish chum kirsty who was also dead excited about the gig..so lets cut the waffle i hear you cry, tel us about the gig.... well here goes.. belle and sebastian on saturday night at the glasgow barrowlands.....words escape me, i still have a grin the size of a cheshire cat...they were just so good, played for 2 hours and did absolute loads of great songs, new songs and covers. the on stage banter was great, the banter with the audience was superb and at times there was 14 people on stage.. so what diod they play,in no particular order le pastie de la bourgeoise legal man johnathan david we rule the school my wandering days are over if youre feeling sinister mayfly sleep the clock around the boy with the arab strap simple things the model dont leave the light on baby the wrong girl womens realm family tree theres to much love 2 new songs, titles escape me, but might be (my girls got) miraculous technique the magic of a kind word also new song definitlay called i love my car in the request slot, a cover of rod stewarts do you think im sexy and the proclaimers letter form america. finished on 'time of the seasons' by the zombies so there you are mate, some tunes form all of their albums, was VERY chuffed that they did some tiger milk tunes, was superb. also had a proper scottish bagpiper for 'sleep the clock around' which was the first song. the lights went out, the bagpipes started anfd they all trooped on behind the piper to lots of cheers and applause. with the piper on stage they HAD to do sleep the clock as it has a piper in it. stuart started to sing, its a quiet song but he sounded to quiet but luckerly the vocals went up after the third line to the right levels. everyone was singing along and dancing. rest of the time went to quick, they were on for 2 hours and every song was great, even the new ones sounded like classics. they mucked up a few of the songs a bit, doing the second verse fitst and repeating some verses on some, most noticible on legal man, which was a stonker. they lenghed it out and it sounded fantastic... other funnies included the support band 'the uptown shuflers' whe were 4 grandads playing concert hall songs from the 20's finishing on 'king of the swingers' from jungle book. they joined belle and sebastian later for 'i love my car' which does sound class b/s song... they had the music book for 'fold your hands...' on the piano. the lyric books formn the cd albums to hand. isobels flys were undone, pointed out to me i must add, nice white knickers on .... auidence members dressed in fine attire, including a liutent, b/s all had some sort of tartan item of clothing on, trousers especially... merchandise, well you could by all the posters for their albums/eps. an array of tshirts, some new badges (which i have and are great) some mugs, i have he girl recling, in green and white with the words belle and sebastain on...very groovey. also they had post cards with the johnathan david pic, which were invites to the OFFICIAL after show party whih i must say i did go to, although it was not that good, and only stevie turned up. met the girl who took the picture of isobel on the inside cover of arab strap as well the next day, cool.... so all in all the weekend was GREAT, was great to see kirsty, and we both luved belle and sebastain.. roll on albert hall for london leg this is laneo for the nme, saying, with a smile, i thank you james xxxx ps bought johnathan davis today, the 2 b sides are class.. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Mon Jun 18 16:39:17 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:39:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Natty Dread Schmatty Dread Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF73220F@GB047XS> Chaps! Blimey, there's a new Belle & Sebastian single out! NGG! And I've only got a mere 89pennies until I can spare some time to go and queue up in a bank whilst they still refuse to send me a new cash card! I'm no longer a true fan! Why this should bother me when I don't even own the last album, I do not know, but singles are always special! And I've not heard this one yet, but pedal guitars = Thumbs Up! Does anyone want to sell (or what the hey, give!) me an Albert Hall ticket? I'm regaining some enthusiasm - and also, I've had Songs From The Musical of TigerMilching (its German, you know!) in my head all day. Ack! I will buy the single tomorrow and listen to it from my Whitehall base. Hello Ben! You work for DTI! I work for DEFRA! It's not as good working for a mouldy old Department, it doesn't have the imposing cachet of a Ministry. A ministry summons up images of such things as the Queen and Country, the Avengers, a portcullis! A Department stinks of grey filing cabinets. HUMBUG! However, at least our abbreviation sounds quite cool. Each time someone refers to DEFRA, I get mental images of the PRE-HISTORIC MONSTER called DEFRAAAAGH fighting the evil force of darkness MUMRAH!! Defra 'In Zion' Vs. 'Scratch' Mumrah Uptown! I'd like to think that's a little what the Uptown Shufflers sound like. Would you like to know what I do, when not imaging the British Civil Service fighting it out in the form of Japanese monsters/Thundercats? Well, I sit on my big old bum, write emails, phone people, wish I could play my Gameboy, count hours passing by and consider teaching myself LINUX. Linux is cool! I'd like to wear a badge that says LINUX RULES OKAY, with a really geeky bit of code. Computer science is not at all cool, but imagine the GLEE of casually lending your 2K laptop to an EVIL DESIGNER SCROTE and saying casually, "make sure you boot it up into Windows you STUPID LOSER PLEB, I much prefer to run Linux but you wouldn't understand...". Watch their piggy little heads explode as they realise that not only I am prettier than them but that they are no command for my COMMAND PROMPT INPUT SYSTEM! Oh no! We need a graphical interface! KABOOOM!!!!! TYPHLOSION! Oh! And sometimes I call ambassadors! Soon we will be organising an Ambassadors Reception! I've got the number for the Ferrero Rocher Emergency Helpline stickytaped to my phone. Excullente! > > it played my headphones weren't plugged in fully and the were barely > > audible vocals under a swirl of instrumental, and It still > sounded *grate* > > (I think that's the correct term around these parts). Actually - the term GRATE originally came from Pauly on the smashing (but I'm unable to play it! ARG) PopEx, who nicked it from the most jolly MJ Hibbett who can be found at http://www.mjhibbet.com - he's got songs on there and everything! It should always be written in CAPITALS (you see, CAPITALS), and preferably with the addition of 'BLUDDY'. It is WRONG to write it in lower case. It is fine to be against the term, you do not HAF to use it, cos you know, you can do whatever you want, dude! Peace, yo. SunnySetSun... thing... that post was very strange. Most of the post-Glasgow posts were strange. I'm now afeared to go to Scotland, and I was fecking BORN there! Glad to know some of you met some nice people, it's nice to meet good people. Of course, I prefer standing on the bridge throwing CUSTARD PIES at people but I've always been one for bakery focused yumour. It's That Time Again! +++++++++++++++++++++ (all together now!) Robin, are you a weatherman yet? (rapturous applause) Lots of love, Sarah xx PS - I'm going to get a pet rat or hampster. Help me think of names? The current favourite is GLUECIFER. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geniusoflove at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 18:24:09 2001 From: geniusoflove at xxx.com (Rob S.) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:24:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: help! i need somebody [not just anybody] Message-ID: Dear Sinister Folk, After months of silence, I return. [bloody unlikely any of you remember me in the first place.] I guess I'll start with a wee bit of content: The new E.P. is fabulous in my opinion! Especially the last two songs. It even had my mother smiling. Anyways, now on to the help part, It was just brought to my attention that myself, and two of my dearest friends [also rabid b&s fans] are going to be in Scotland at the beginning of July. The scary thing about this is I have no real money [two hundread pounds at the most]. Most of my accomadations are going to be paid for...but some of them will not. I was wondering if you Scots [or other members of the jet-set] have money-saving tips / good places to go. We are most likely staying all of July. Good-luck to me! - rock robster p.s. email me back privately so we don't break any list rules. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 17:58:02 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:58:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Send a sinisterite to the San Francisco Pop fest Message-ID: <21.d2eaef4.285f8d1b@aol.com> If you want to sponser the aforementioned Sinisterite to the San Francisco Pop Festival, you can do so! Every dollar helps! If you donate to this fund, you will receive: Vital statistics on your Sinisterite (Height, weight, name, family, etc.) A full 8.5x11" photograph of your Sinisterite And not only that, but a certificate insuring your status as an ADOPTIVE-PARENT of your Sinisterite! So please. . . do not let this poor child go wandering around aimlessly confused about whether or not she is going to the San Francisco pop fest; she deserves a chance--a right to dance and see all of her favorite bands. Send your donation to: The Mandee Wright Pop Fund 1324 42nd Avenue Greeley, CO 80634 Every little amount counts to make a difference in your Sinisterite's life. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 19:36:17 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: confused, tired, more confused, more tired... Message-ID: <20010618183617.81269.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Yalala people, Got the JD single today. Wopping great tune, likes. Is that how you spell wopping? or is it whopping? or is it whooping? no.. I'm sure thats a type of cough that little babies get. I might be wrong though. Its still great in any case. (the single, not the illness). Got it on my way to the train, first thing this morning (the single, not the illness.). Long train journey. Don't need the details, do you? GAH! Everyone is leaving/left university and when I see them again, I dunno!!! I'm annoyed. I bought a load of popex shares in B+S and they're decreasing in value. I thought with a new single and a tour they'd be sure to make me a virtual mint. I was wrong. whats a curmbox, by the way? it appears when I open my e mail account in the "what your bowser is up to" area. All rude suggestions to idleberry at the usual address. Rude suggestions about what a curmbox is, not other rude suggestions that might involve things I don't want to know about. Gah! (Part two) I got all this graduation stuff to sort out. Such as clothes, gowns, mortar board hats, photographers, parties, parents, time off for good behaviour, time off for bad and indecent behaviour. I've decided that ONE DAY I shall own the following: an MX-5; a flat of my own, with nice wooden floors, and one room painted in passionate purple; a little town where all my friends can live and then I can see them every day; A puppy; My own home computer; a walk in wardrobe- which will be organised by the following categories: flimsyness, colour, how well it hides my legs, could I wear it to a gig. I've been asked to do an animation for a bands website, along the style lines of my B+S animation. Only less twee. If you've not seen my B+S one its at http://www.geocities.com/idleberry/lovestory.html Its not really got a plot so to speak, but there are references in there. See if you can spot Honey. OKay Tis all. Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Mon Jun 18 21:46:05 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:46:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i want to shower you with sugarlumps Message-ID: Dear puddlyypoos, In the high street of my lovely hometown Dingwall. The shops are usually one floor, with the odd chartered accountant�s or hairdressers above. Two floors is quite large especially if you�re standing, peering over the edge of the roof. If I was ever caught like that (which is not likely) then I�d have to be lying on my tumtum (on a flat roof) with only my eyes & maybe my chin looking over. That�s prolly one of the scariest day-nightmare-thing that I�ve imagined and could maybe happen in real life. I�m quite scare d of heights & stuff, and I�ve imagined & dreamt, in my sleep many times about being on the edge of a building or cliff, with another cm either way seeing my fate with its own peepers. It�s not that I want to jump. I just find myself there by some really rubbishy reason. And I always end up freezing, because I think I would slip and fall. And even if there are people behind me, wanting to aid me in some way, watching, they can�t do a thing about my thing neither because they could possibly make me fall too. Which leaves m in one of the most isolated & scary situations, because all I want to do in my dream or nightmary-thing-day-dream is give someone the largest snuggle. But even though I�m petrified of big buildings, you�ve got to admire them. On saturday morning, I went into Glasgow especially early, before I met up with the lovely & fab & cutsey gneissypoo, to wander through the city centre on my own, and look up at the massive buildings. And some of them are taken up by only 1 building, which is really scary, considering we don�t even have Jonathan David in Dingwall. Then I took Gneissypoo to some shops, and set off to the picnic, where we were first there. I saw some people on benches after riding on the escalators, so I decided to spy on them, and when I left, people had arrived to have a picnic, and I became so nervous that I walked & hid right round the station & back to the escalators. Then I met up with some of the loveliest people evereverever. I have to give special hellos & baaaas to my dearest princess Honeybunny, and miss Amy Jackson, who is one of the fabbest girls in the world, and Gneissypoo (and miss Idleberry too, who is very cute) But *everyone* was fantastic, and I couldn�t believe how lovely a picnic could be. They�re so wonderful. The concerts were fab, with a highlight being that Jackie (I think it was) played the trumpet upside down for the Superduper Shufflers. Penelope smells gorgeous now, and loves every one of you who cuddled her. She told me so. But I am going to send her to someone special, because they are luvvly jubbly & deserve her company more than me. Byeeees Johnjohn X p.s. a special hug & haribo for Mr Ally for running the bestest day ever. (p.p.s. I hugged Mr Ally!) i asked him if he'd be my friend and much my my surprise he didn't seem to mind at all so i gave my friend a panda hug and kissed him on the eyes and put hi in my bed by the wall - spider _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Tue Jun 19 08:28:34 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:28:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Radio blah blah Message-ID: <200106190731.f5J7UxN02984@wn1.sci.kun.nl> Hello all I just saw that today is 19th of june, and I think I remember people writing about a John Peel or something session being broadcast tonoght. Am I right or am I right? Can someone please tell me when and where? I think we have bbc radio on cable here in holland, so being able to hear B&S play would make up a tiny little bit for not seeing any concerts. By the way, has anyone recorded a concert on minidisc? Do B&S mind being bootlegged? Did I spell bootlegged correctly? So many questions and it's only 9:27. And I have to start working. Right about now. take care marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 09:24:09 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:24:09 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I was in Glasgow for the saturday night. For some reason I thought doing London-Manchester on friday, followed by Manchester-Glasgow on saturday and Glasgow-London (via coach-a lenghty mistake) on sunday was a good idea. It wasn't. But the gig was fantastic. "All the hits and more" as the B&S best of might have tagged onto it one day. I was actually in the Sarcens Head before the gig. Interesting pub. There was a Kareoke type DJ setting up and he started to play Paul McCartney and the Lighthouse family. Which was bad. But then, when he had set up his drum machine etc he left Tigermilk on to play- much to the general astonishment of the indie kids in there. And the distaste of the locals. What a grate marketing ploy it was too. Like a siren on the rocks to the doomed sailor the indie kids were drawn in one by one. Only to be accosted by the locals and drawn into drunken conversations. I made my excuses (general health and safety being paramount) and left to go to the gig. Take your Carriage clock makes me want to cry. But then again that might be related to the fact that all of the work I did yesterday was wiped off an excel spreadsheet for no reason at all other than computer stupidity. And the fact that my heart is slowly being raked over hot coals by a woman at work, who will then be nice to me for a week before ripping my heart out again. It's like a boom and bust Tory economic policy but on a weekly basis. I need a solid chancellor to sort this out. Ho Hum. I am gutted i missed the sinister picnic but i was late into glasgow and had drop all my stuff off. oh well. I hear the football went well. P a u l _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue Jun 19 12:06:11 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:06:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my ten biggest wanks Message-ID: <3B2F3223.4E41A454@camb.linst.ac.uk> YEH, YOURE ALL A BUNCH OF DIRTY SCAMPS WITH A ONE TRACK MIND (unlike me) ok, so i know that fyhcywlap has been out for more than a while but for some reason i decided not to bother with it for various reasons that i wont bore you with. um, i listened to it for the first time on sunday and i ABSOLUTELY love it, more than arab strap, a bit more than tigermilk, and a bit less than feeling sinister, which, in my books brings it second in the picking order of B&S albums. My boyfriend reckons it didnt grow on him as much as the others so maybe ill will go off it quickly, i dunno, its quite fun to NOT buy an album and to have NOT heared any of the tracks from it. i might do that more often. i also might buy a beatles album, they are suppose to be quite good you know. from the ken chu appreciation society +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imnicolson at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 12:14:58 2001 From: imnicolson at xxx.com (Ian Nicolson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:14:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Psychic dancehall Message-ID: Hello chipmunks Recently a couple of people pointed out the dark and mysterious psychic powers of Sinister, by saying that they'd posted about the Albert Hall gig years ago and the like, so not wanting to be left out... On the 15th of June last year I muttered: "so, are any other proud bus pass carriers somewhat perturbed by stuart's new car?...i hope it doesn't mean we'll be subjected to a glut of chris rea/brian may type songs about being in love with a car" Jings! But I'm not bothered, cause it's a triffic song, and not at all like Chris Rea or Brian May, although it has been pointed out to me that bits of it are not unlike the Huckleberry Finn theme tune. I think I might be beginning to prefer the Miraculous Technique one, though. Maybe. But it is encouraging that they're still writing such wonderful stuff. There's been loads written about the weekend already, and all far better than I could do, so it would probably be wrong of me to subject the poor Sinister children to any more. But it was very difficult this morning not to sound like an excited little girl when my work people asked me how my weekend had been, cause it was lots of fun. They probably all think I'm a little bit sad now. Thankfully I managed to refrain from telling them how many times I'd seen the Jonathan David video over the weekend (at least eight in a row at one point, although it could well have been more). But it's worth it for rockstar Stevie's big sad eyes. He loves it! People have said this lots of times already and will continue to do so today, but I don't want anyone to forget about the John Peel show tonight. Four new songs! Crikey! Ian N. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 13:38:22 2001 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:38:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: teeth things? eeeuurrgghhh Message-ID: <86256A70.00456FF2.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hi kiddies, everyones written about the gigs and how fantastic the whole weekend was, I've just got to add my wholehearted (almost, but let's get the good stuff over with first) agreement on the whole aceness of the weekend. The journey up to Glasgow, giggles, old timers with their mini pork pies, long walks for cigarettes, but hey, it's all worth it when glorious Glasgow's at the other end :-) Oh Glasgow, home of lovely people, glorious 80 shilling bouze and the barrowlands, not the most slubrious of venues but twinkling with buzzy stars nonetheless. I'd been waiting since 1998 for the moment and when it arrived it never went away (but why did it take 3 songs?) goosebumps all over, shivers down my spine I was finally watching my heroes and they didn't let me down, absolutely fan-bloody-tastic. I'm not going to go on about which songs they played and that cos you already know, but they were sooooo cool. Saturday's picnic wasn't too good to me as I was feeling somewhat under the weather (and no it wasn't beer for a change) so sorry I wasn't my usual self, but hey there was another gig round the corner:-) We got in, saw the shufflers this time (fun, apart from the scotland 10 - england nil reference boo) and then some songs were played while we waited and then the lights went out and they were back! And they rocked, so much better than the night before, the goosebumps were there from the start and then it happened............. Some chuffing halfwit wannabe Ned started going on and on and on, not content with belting out all the slower songs terrace style (especially on we rule the school i.e,. the song sprout wanted to hear more than all the others), trying to make funny comments and generally being a wanker. Requests for him to shut up were completely ignored and I couldn't even throw him out of the window as I wouldn't then be allowed to stay and watch the band! So if anyone sees a wannabe ned with cropped hair, big glasses and an expression that makes Cletus the Slack jawed yokel from the simpsons look like Christian Slater then thank him for taking a hell of a lot of gloss of what should have been one of the best nights of my life by pushing him in the Clyde for me. I'm not normally like this, honest. Love Cabbagexx PS and sprout says hi to all those she met :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 13:49:02 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:49:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hangovers and Jonathan David Message-ID: Hello lovely sinister type people, i finally heard the JD version of middle distance runner it's amzing but it lacks a guitar part that was absolutely amazing in the live version and the mp3 thats been around (the tube performance i think). I love Jonathan David, especially Stevie sounding Spanish and the bit where they everyone's voice kicks in, that sounds lovely. I was at the picnic in Glasgow but no-one will remember me, i think i spoke to at most 5 people. I was actually dead and in future will stick to Vodka and red bull, well actually safeways's "feel the force", cheaper and with a much better name. Instead i drank Kuhlua and chocolate milk, which while lovely and rather powerful was not a good idea especially on three hours sleep. I lay around on the ground rolling about making funny noises, although i did manage to get up once and pass chocolate doughnuts around (mmmmmm........doughnuts) and i even managed to grumble about avalanche B&S t-shirts beeing a good one and a half sizes smaller than stated. I also heard the funniest conversation ever regarding exploding animals, along the lines of exploding seagulls are okay but exploding squirrels are just sick followed by "the only good exploding thing is an exploding ned". I think that someone should make an explodingned.com, you could scan a picture in of your most hated ned and post it to the website where they could then blow them up in glorious technicolour. Oh yeh visit mucker.com for ned related frivolities. Anyway after seeing B&S twice i decided to spend Sunday at a friends house listening to B&S and drinking and found a live version of seeing other people which is slowed down tremendously.Its grate. I also found a live version of something labelled anhour, i haven't got a clue what it is so if anyone knows could they please let me know. Im going to go and buy Jonathan David now, remember and be kind to small businesses, Danny xxx P.S Sorry for not being even slightly humorous, im much too tired P.P.S If anyone has two tickets for sale for any remaining concert ( especially) RAH could you please give me an e-mail. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 14:05:58 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:05:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: 6 Reasons Why My Life Sucks Right Now and Why I Can't Do Anything To Help It Message-ID: <4d.d1e3b78.2860a836@aol.com> As depressing and self-pitying as that headline sounds, and actually is, I must take a bit of time to rant of my current situation. I'm sorry to anyone who feels I'm being self-indulgent and childish. 1. My favorite band in the entire world is doing a tour, and I'm missing every single show. What's more, when inquired as to the possibility of a US tour, Mick replied "we're only doing the west coast later this year." And I live (for the most of the year anyway) in Exeter, New Hampshire, which is... definitely not the west coast. (The counter-bad news: Mick said he'd "definitely mention it to the others in the band" when I said "please, please, please, please, PLEASE come play at Exeter and make a little sad girl who's in love with you all happy.") AND i cannot BELIEVE i missed stevie's rendition of "d'ya think i'm sexy", followed by a toy sheep noise. i would have been telling the story to my grandkids. 2. I have been isolated from the rest of the world, only having human contact with my parents. My mum, for the majority of it. No social contact whatsoever. All my friends are still in school/in a different city 6 hours away/in california/in canada/in pennsylvania and my mom seems hesitant to drive me anywhere. 3. My parents' stereo is super-sensitive to scratches on CDs and will not play my Stones cd or hex enduction. It keeps on skipping and doing silly things. I, being extremely technology-ignorant and not knowing a thing about this gigantic machine that my parents bought about a decade ago, am afraid to touch anything other than the "play" and the "stop" button. 4. My best friend Christina's computer is broken. I have not talked to her in two weeks. Since it's her computer, in Florida, about 14 hours flight from here, I can't do anything about it. 5. I am going to China in two weeks, which means I will be stuck in this solitude for two more weeks. Which also means I can't really find anything worthwhile doing. (i.e. find a job, attend summer classes, etc.) 6. Will's going to Stratford in the fall, which means I won't get to see him for 6 more months. He has somehow weaved himself so intricately into my life that I already miss him terribly, but of course I haven't made too great a contribution to *his* life and therefore he will be at stratford all happy and dandy by himself snogging with every girl he can. grr. (by the way, if anyone in stratford sees a tall, lanky, brown-haired, brown-eyed typical male (generally incomprehensible and prone to acts of stupiditiy) with an american accent, with a little transparent bubble about him that has a big sign saying "do not cross, i take 'living in your own world' to mean a literal thing", say hi. that's will.) And of couse, i can't do anything about this because i have no control over his actions, at least the big ones... (i can make him wave hello and do silly things, but i can't stop him from going places..) So that sums up my life in 6 (very long) bullet points. I'm usually not as depressed and repressed as I sound here. Honest. (C'mon, you're talking to the girl who thinks david ives's "the philadelphia" is the most genius thing she ever saw... any sinister ives fans?) erm.. yes. cheers, hye min xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Tue Jun 19 14:19:20 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:19:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: John !P!E!E!L! Message-ID: So the John Peel show is between 10pm and midnight British Summer Time, which is 9-11 GMT, so you can work out your local variations from there (for example Oxford time is 5 mins behind London time, honest). If you are in the UK, you can hear it on 97-99FM wunnerfulradiowun. If you are in europe and have satellite it'll prolly be on one of the radio channels, apparently. Wherever you are, if you have the modern interweb you can go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 and click on the listen button to hear it, for which you will need RealPlayer, computer speakers and EARS! Usually with these things the four songs are played throughout the show, rather than in a big chunk, so you'll prolly get half an hour of banging techno/noseflutes/records played at the wrong speed in between each track. If you are listening on the modern interweb (or even if you're not), come along to #sinister in irc chat (details on http://www.missprint.org/sinister ) and talk rubbish with the rest of us, especially if you haven't been there before :) will this do? xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 13:55:51 2001 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:55:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my ten biggest wanks Message-ID: Can anyone actually remember there 10 biggest wanks? I think I can remember my top 4. Does anyone have any plans for before and afters on Friday the 29th down in London? Also, if I moved to New York who'd be my friend?? Andy >From: Hannah Brown >Reply-To: Hannah Brown >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: my ten biggest wanks >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:06:11 +0100 > >YEH, YOURE ALL A BUNCH OF DIRTY SCAMPS WITH A ONE TRACK MIND (unlike me) > >ok, so i know that fyhcywlap has been out for more than a while but for >some reason i decided not to bother with it for various reasons that i wont >bore you with. um, i listened to it for the first time on sunday and i >ABSOLUTELY love it, more than arab strap, a bit more than tigermilk, and a >bit less than feeling sinister, which, in my books brings it second in the >picking order of B&S albums. My boyfriend reckons it didnt grow on him as >much as the others so maybe ill will go off it quickly, i dunno, its quite >fun to NOT buy an album and to have NOT heared any of the tracks from it. i >might do that more often. i also might buy a beatles album, they are >suppose to be quite good you know. > >from the ken chu appreciation society >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue Jun 19 13:44:56 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:44:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peel Session Message-ID: <005901c0f8be$b04d3b20$408dfc3e@neil> Don't forget the Peel Session is on tonight on Radio 1. It starts at 10PM GMT. If you aren't fortunate enough to receive fabulous One FM on your wireless, I believe you can listen on the net, if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 There are four brand new songs being played. Some of you might be familiar with a couple of them from the recent live shows. Some of you might not. Anyway, tune in tonight and enjoy. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Tue Jun 19 15:12:20 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:12:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: radio blah blah, part deux Message-ID: <20010619141220.66004.qmail@web10303.mail.yahoo.com> a cool guy from holland named marc mentioned the belle & sebastian john peel session tonight. I was wondering if anyone was going to be taping it? I don't have a computer at the moment, cause I'm homeless right now, and I leave work at 4pm (9pm uk time) so I won't be able to listen to it. it would really suck to miss it... how come all the ace b&s stuff like peel and shows happens after I leave? *sniff* in other news, the noo yawk picnic was pretty nifty... much smaller than the massive lovefest that was primrose hill, but nice nonetheless. it was a nice introduction back to the city after my five-month absence, plus people making fun of canadians always amuses me. even if I did forget where the met was, and walked alllll the way down to 63rd st. before realizing the met was not downtown, but uptown. grrrr. oh yeah! the new single/ep/short thing is pretty good. "jonathan david" is easily the best stevie song... someone mentioned it kinds sounds like stevie trying to write like stuart, which I agree with, cause when I read the lyrics I thought it was a stuart song. anyone else think a b&s bible sing-along album would be well good? you know, "like adam in the garden", "noah and the dream of floods", and my favorite, "the boy with the technicolor dreamcoat". or was that a musical starring nathan lane? I hope I haven't started anything... I'll stop while I'm ahead. shine on, you crazy diamond. -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 15:36:57 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:36:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Hangovers/picnic shouts, thanks etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010619143657.78427.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> --- Danny Farrell wrote: > > > I was at the picnic in Glasgow but no-one will > remember me, i think i spoke > to at most 5 people. > although i did manage to get up once and pass > chocolate doughnuts around > (mmmmmm........doughnuts) and i even managed to > grumble about avalanche B&S > t-shirts beeing a good one and a half sizes smaller > than stated. hi danny, i remember you! my boyfriend and i were sitting near you at the picnic. we really appreciated the doughnuts - many thanks. while i'm here (assuming i'm not in the nursery again) ... thanks and virtual hugs to everyone at the picnic, particularly anybody i actually spoke to. it was a lovely way to spend an afternoon, and it was so nice to walk into barrowlands and recognise so many faces from the picnic! extra big shouts out to - the owner of the lovely dog (every good picnic should have a dog) - amy, the exploding seagull expert - john, giver of fizzy coke bottle sweets - whoever had 'blister in the sun' as their mobile ring tone - marianna from perth - katrina who came to the shop with us - ken who i didn't really talk to (but i got him some coke from the shop) - it was only afterwards i realised it was the same ken who drew the winning pic in carsmile's B&S on TOTP competition! which i see every day because it's my computer wallpaper ... - whoever owned the notebook that everyone wrote in, so i could look at the names and say "ooh, i recognise that name! they're actually here!" and then try to guess who was who ... - and of course karl, rich and george who (besides us) were the only jeepsterines to show up at the conehead statue what a great weekend it was ... irene ===== "Yarr, its kind of you to deliver these copies of Jugs. They'll keep my men from resorting to homosexuality fer about 10 minutes. harr harr harr." - The Cap'n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 17:59:19 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:59:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Quiet is the New Loud Message-ID: <11.15e61df2.2860dee7@aol.com> Hello folk of all kinds! I am so so JEALOUS of all of you children going to the Gigs or talking bout going to the Gigs because I will not be joining you... My subject line has many underlying meanings, one of which being that I got the Kings of COnvenince album by that name, the second meaning being that I have decded with out most of your help that I talk to much and am also very shy (despite my crappy posts I do hover for a lot longer than all of you) and therefor I have decided that it is a good idea if I limit my posting to twice a month so this will be long and content full and then I'll shut up, the third meaning is that in my last post I said that the list was very quiet, and the next day you all yell at me!! I like it, keep it up.... Last wednesday I talked to my beloved friend Erica, who introduced me to B&S and she did not even know about the new single, that made me sad, and think what is with all this, but then I went out and bought it and felt very happy (i ahve spent most of my time listening to it and Kings of Convenience, my new CDs)... I just thought i should share my love for them with all of you! I love you too! Okay, now my little personal content, I know this guy at school named Jon (JD) and I have the biggest crush on him, hes younger, has beautiful brown hair and eyes and listens to all of my favortie music, (Tigermilk is his favorite) and I feel pathetic.... Have a good night! sleep tight! kate from Chicago +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Tue Jun 19 19:55:46 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:55:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I just wanna say, Slayer feckin' rules! Message-ID: <003901c0f8f1$73d4b320$8624a5d8@nyu.edu> Hello! This week is my last week of school. Well, it's the last week of my summer class. This means that I have been in school for exactly one year straight, taking classes in some capacity. Now, I'm taking a few months off. To get a job. And work. I like school better. I think last night I had a dream about Sean Connery taking me to a movie. I can't wait til the fall because I'm taking some rad classes, one in pop culture theory and one in teen movies. Sometimes I love NYU, but usually they just annoy me, like a horde of flies circling my picnic. Speaking of picnics, thanks to you people who showed up (even if you WERE an hour late and I had to sit there reading Pale Fire and shooing the flies by myself). Especial thanks to Mark for driving from afar. I'm a little nervous that zvoruna was WATCHING the picnic but did not attend. This means there was a sinister person lying in the grass somewhere, peering over, not indicating their sinisterality. Also, it's very sad. You should have come over, we're mostly pretty friendly. Unless you're Canadian. But look, we were even nice to Derek. To his face. Also, where were you?? That blow up bunny was a bust (literally) as he had had his face slashed apparently in some sort of inflatable bunny gang war. We tried to bandage him up, but the life quickly slipped from his small, blue body. Sigh. Sad day, hurt cry. To Andy Flynn: I don't know who you are, but maybe I'll be your friend. Probably. To Eric: Yes, we in New York don't have the orgiastic tendencies that the London folk do, so when we say "picnic" we mean picnic and not "massive lovefest." Also we're much cooler than the people in London. To honey: *lick* Well, you all enjoy your Peel session for me tonight, I have to go to class. I'm sure you don't need to be told to make sure you make an EVIL BOOTLEG COPY with which to make COMPLETELY ILLEGAL MP3S so the Rest Of Us can hear it too. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 21:01:12 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:01:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: I must confess I don't normally read this stuff Message-ID: <68.104c9710.28610988@cs.com> So yes this is my long delayed first post (shudder!). I don't remember getting an email saying I was out of the nursery but that was probably a long time ago. See Brian has a bad habit of going through and deleting anything that does not come from pretty girls accross the ocean. But I'm all better now. I promise :P I got Jonathan David a week early and I'm growing into it nicely. Still not as good as The Boy With The Arab Strap but hey nothing much is. My one or two B & S friends keep telling me how crap TBWTAS is but they're stupid it's brilliant and if you don't think that you're stupid too. Haha now I've probably angered lots of people so I'll stop with that train of though. "A Summer Wasting" is probably about what it boils down to. Dad says I should get a job, Mom says I should work on school stuff for next year, and even the dog seems to say "Get out of the house, boy!" And yet I refuse, and spend endless hours squinting at my computer screen trying to get the nice little pictures and numbers and letters to make sense. Is this a normal thing to do?? I fear I may be going slightly mad. Ah well I've done enough for one day. I hope you are all well and that I haven't made quite everyone hate me yet! I promise my next post will be better. Cheers -Brian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Tue Jun 19 21:41:13 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: When Ye Go, Lassie, Fly Go Message-ID: <20010619204113.21739.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> I was in Glasgow long after I should have been. And I was sorry to have left Glasgow long before I had. The angry crowd at the late-night Stansted terminal, informed that the flight had been cancelled. The cute green go patches on the lassies' turquoise shirts. (Who could have a go at a go lassie like that? Folk with more consistency than me.) The comedy taxi driver leading us away from Scotland, into Essex. Darkest Essex - except that it's probably even darker in winter. The Palms Hotel in Romford, doubtless staging the vast dregs of a wedding bash: overspilling with shiny girls at 1:30 in the morning. The 'music' thumped louder than any I could think of. Fans of Relentlessly Thumping Contemporary Pop that The Kids are Into (Ewing, Le Trouss�, Raggett, et al) should have been there. Especially if I could have been where they were. Like a swap. Yes. The hotel bath that seemed to fill so quickly. The June rain outside in the middle of the night. The panic of seeing the time of waking: 8:30. The foreign receptionist, Lotte, and her vague, game bids to get me off her hands and into the playpen of the airline people. The mild compensation of the breakfast with Sinatra, Cole, Bacharach/David et al - a tremendous touch. Feeling that this was an unusual way to spend Bloomsday. 11:00? That's somwehere between 'Nestor' and 'Proteus', isn't it? The Irish passenger in the cab who sagely made out to know all about Joyce. Well, it's easily done. The LRB in the queue back at the beloved Stansted. The project that still needed (needs) finishing, to be worked on while waiting for boarding time: 'United States Postal Service' over a cappucino, then through for a major Boss pastiche in view of the runways, engines and fins. Hey, this is progress. England falling away to be photographed. The brochure, like Tintin used to read, saying that Glasgow's main feature was the Clyde. The lyric to run over and over and fiddle with. The Bucks Fizz. The kids laughed when I told them I'd had a Bucks Fizz. I got out The Charm of the Highway Strip so that they'd announce that we were coming in to land, please switch off all walkmen. They did. They always do. Scotland. The bus to the city - The City, if you like. The roar of the bus over 'Crowd Of Drifters'. The city in its metropolitan magnitude. I must tell my editor to take out that stuff I wrote about Grand Central Station and replace it with something about Central Station. Awesome. And all of this in the pale summer. The Underground. Perhaps I had waited years to use the Glasgow Underground, and never even known it. It felt that way. You could 'fall in love' with that tube system. I 'did'. At Kelvinhall I stumbled down an alley then realized the street was the other way. In a box I rang 96. 96, I said - I'm in a box, you're in some frocks. I tried to follow his directions. I wound up back in the alley. I tried again. Here he was coming down the road. His T-shirt bore a legend. I asked him if that was the university that threw him out. No, it was another university that threw him out. Kelvingrove Park. A 'twee' name, if you like, for the distant and the outsider. I suggested to my editor that B&S had recolonized the nomenclature of Glasgow and made it (for want of a better word) twee. - Yes, he said - for it used to be Kelmanesque. The park, the crowds. Only one of them was bothered that it was Bloomsday. He let in no goals. Well, that's my story. Don't believe it. I was asked what it was like to be hanging around with a load of young girls. In fact, when I was young, I often used to hang around with a load of young girls. I mean, assembly was once a week. Here were characters with welcoming attitudes. Here was a man who looked like David Moore, revisiting the circuits. Here was a boss that looked just like Honey, calling me Lloyd Cole. Easy mistake to make, if you try hard. Here was The Velocity Girl, theorizing cogently about meta-pop and the conceptual work to be done upon the country genre. Here were the Jinxed Minxes. Here was the Foxy Field, picking up injuries on a foreign one. Here was the care bear, in elegant mourning for her unhappiness. My editor theorized once more about the metropolitan character of Glasgow. I must remember not to show him that paragraph above. It was very pastoral. A century of elves. In a bar, my first Glaswegian bar, my editor and I defended the idea of artifice, or the artifice of ideas (j'exagere). What I mean is - I have always agreed with him about posing. I took a photograph of him looking at a photograph of himself looking at a photograph of himself. I met Sprout. She from Chesterfield, like. That a Liberal Democrat weakhold. The care bear warned me not to write 'Tractor Boy'. - If you write 'Tractor Boy', she warned, I shall never listen to you again. It's a good thing she didn't tell Merritt not to write 'Railroad Boy' or 'Falling For The Wolfboy'. Or is it? No, not necessarily. (I expect someone to write and tell me that the former, or indeed the latter, is a cover. No, I don't.) Why did she not like 'Tractor Boy'? It would be a mere pointless exercise in genre exploration. I tried to enlist my editor to argue that pointless generic exercises could be a good thing. Most probably disagree with us. We probably disagree with us, sometimes. Mooro was the new pinefox, in a notebook sense. Carsmile was - where? Robinson was charming. - It's a Pool Marathon, he growled. The streets were still bright. In a car my editor and I crossed the town so that he could analyze some new graffiti. Quickly. We passed a pub and thought of Peter Miller. There is a street named after him in the city centre. We wound up at a concert hall, arrested by the frayed sound of failing neon. We found the Uptown Shufflers' 'Jungle Book' charming and bizarre. The lyrics so out of context, here, sung by this old man. And how about DOON THE TRACK THE TRAAIIN CAME PUFFING SCOTLAND TEN ENGLAND NOTHIN'!!! ? Belle and Sebastian played far more tightly than I've heard them before - than most people have heard them before. They played *impressively*. Mooro said it well - how can I add to what he's said? Hm - >>> Line from new song I Love My Car / And good :) In my head all day today. This was debated on Sunday. I am not convinced. That is ungenerous of me. Maybe I'll regret it. >>> Stevie Reverb played 3 or 4 notes of the intros to The Beatles' Blackbird before Wrong Girl & The Stones' Last Time before Legal Man. Yes. I wish he'd played all of 'The Last Time'. Maybe then he would have hit a lengthy, loud guitar solo. That was what I lacked at this gig - loud squalls of guitar playing. Jackson sounded very much like Paul Heaton. Why have we never noticed this before? Their capacity to improvise requests is impressive too. A lot of bands couldn't, or wouldn't, do that. I thought about copying them, till I remembered that I do it anyway, less entertainingly. I don't understand the fuss (if fuss it is) about them playing an encore. I would have thought that NOT playing an encore might show 'less respect for the audience', etc. They played what they played impressively. Outside, Shearer's magical mystery tour. The blue light shimmering up Buchanan Street. The joke about Sauciehall Street and the copper. The queue, in which Shearer did a word-perfect mimicry of my phone message to my editor. The noise inside seemed like the Palms Hotel revisited, till we reached the 60s room. Perhaps I shall not trouble to engage in a load of pointless carping about the unthinking recycling of versions of 'the 60s' to the exclusion of all else. Cookie, Mooro, Honey all together in one corner - I looked at that and could practically feel the quality vibes flowing. The crowd. The violence. The alco-pop. The B&S members walking in in hot clothing. The farewells. The Narrow Wizard and Chu outside the kebab shops. The mansion. Sunday. The folks. The folk. My folk's smaller than your folk. I mean, that's an ALBUM ye've got there, sir. Very impressive. And very hospitable. The roads. Hillhead tube in its grubby romance. The Wizard talking about post-industrial society while waiting for his stout to be poured. The gig analysis from Alder and all de rest. The split over 'I Love My Car'. The organic Honey. Jumpers contest. 'ld' beghtol could have judged it. No-one quite took the garish picture the occasion demanded. The Hogshead. The unexpected return of the editor. Polemics against the Velvets and the Pistols. Sausages and mash. Free drinks. Someone has to be on a golf course, lady. The list bosses' verdicts on the new 45. My best idea was 'Elvis Costello'. It was a fine idea at the time. Now it's a couple of days old. You can have it if you want. The rootsy bar again for trad folk. They wouldn't let me play. I wanted my ball back. Sweetie said something. The gang was whittling itself. Foxy Field relaying beers at the bar and wearing a 'Boring' sticker. A geezer singing unaccompanied; a geezer singing dull songs about Dublin. A secret Byrds cover. Shearer, the pinefox and Chu heading their ways down summer-night streets and hills. The grass, the trees, the skies, the clouds. We ought to remember this. We won't if my camera is playing up. Chu's vocal take on the mandolin of 'All My Little Words'. Back at base, like Chu said, a high-quality jam. The sort of thing you might expect. The outro of 'Wandering Days', I'll have you know, was thrilling. It was like listening to Bowie. It was like *being* Bowie. Lester Bowie. Playing a piano. Still no sign of the West End festival, save that 'Wandering Days'. But the greenery of the streets. The light through the windows. My hosts are pop music fans, they listen to the radio. My editor's favourites were on there. They were dismal. Don't tell him. The cries of schoolkids. The cars on the Great Western Road. University Avenue; the big postcards from the uni shop; the T-Rex. The park, which makes Kids say, 'Don't walk through the park, if you're on your own'. The Transport Museum. The 'peace caravan'. The vintage cars. The romance of the immobile trams. There are fire engines, standing by. I was encouraged to photograph more. They thought it was my 'interest'. Maybe it should be. Outside I wondered whether the ice-cream van ought to be in the museum. The way Sauciehall Street changes its names over and over in reality, but not on the map. The music shop for strings for Shearer; where my grandmother used to work. St Enoch and the vast glass roof. Chips - how many chips can ye eat? Times Square. George Square. The Care Bear. The river. The sadness of the river on a summer afternoon. The care bear pointed out that I shouldn't really like B&S, if I'm going to suggest that they should have louder guitar parts. B&S, she explained, are romantic. The bridges. This is sounding like Robinson. Missing. Inaction. Not a single Lloyd Cole vinyl record, but a Bowie one, and not Lester. The care bear was unconvinced that It's A Shame About Ray could be any good. The streets, closing down. The estates like scenery in a Glasgow film. I can see how they make those films, now. They just start the camera. The B&S record again. It's true, the strings on track 2 are nice. It's true, they have dulled down track 3. Once again, that guitar part should have been mixed way up higher. They should try using the care bear's gear. You should see it. I mean, hear it. One minute it's Robert Quine, the next it's Robert Forster. John Martyn, come to think of it. Wish Mooro could have been there to hear *that*. Here came Cookie and the Shearer again. Working men, like in a Boss song. Working hard all day / to earn ma chips. We were shown a video. It was engaging. Some don't love the arrangement of the record, some do. I can't see much wrong with it, actually. The final shots of the video are tremendous. The cookie knocks things over, earlier. People play instruments. People played instruments. 96 played acoustic guitar. The care bear played the bass guitar. The Shearer played percussion. The ensemble was - again - terrifically engaging. I hope not to forget it. Cookie doesn't forget much. Write something and he'll still remember it six years later. He should be a spy, or a 'Mr Memory' or something. We left the care bears to make their plans, and toured the dark city for the last time. The Shearer demonstrated his wizardry on the computer, and the crossword. He makes wee CDs. Honest. In the morning a relative of his told me that 'Goin' the messages' means, going out for essential provisions. I went out and did not return. Hillhead to Buchanan Street. The air in the streets was rainy and clear, if that makes sense. A fiddler played. Inside a shopping centre, Oasis were being covered by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. And soon it was all gone. Gone again into colours and names on a map, which I looked at with a pang in my heart, thinking, I wish I was still in Glasgow. Then I realized that I was. We were still waiting for the aeroplane to take off. When it did, all those people and buildings swooping away into the rear-view mirror of eternity. Those wee folk at their jobs or their dole offices. The colours and shapes of the city cut loose and covered by the clouds. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grouch at xxx.fr Tue Jun 19 22:15:06 2001 From: grouch at xxx.fr (alan) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:15:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: how ace is the new single??? References: <20010619204113.21739.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <025901c0f904$ebda1fa0$5e7224d5@a> good god is it fabulous!!!! alan, first mail in ages...but then again i've been drinking rum. "Les gens sont égotistiques, c'est comme ça qu'on va sur la Lune" Jean Claude Van Damme +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kheydt at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 00:33:11 2001 From: kheydt at xxx.com (kheydt) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: legalbaggageman Message-ID: <3B2FE12A.7A657F48@erols.com> Just heard the peel sessions and Sarah still has the most beautiful voice I ever heard (even through Realaudio). Mp3's of live or broadcast performances shouldn't have legal baggage (if they do, nobody mention it so we can all plead innocent). Also heard camera obscura before the show. Beautiful, really stunned me. Then I did a search on the web for them and found a punk band with the same name. Not so beautiful. -kheydt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 08:50:41 2001 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:50:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Say it loud, I'm P!O!P! and proud Message-ID: <200106200754.AAA26141@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Heyyyy Sinister, Oh, how could I not post! Those silly Glaswegians are getting me worked up like a schoolgirl. First tour reports, then a new single, then more tour reports, then a fantastic Peel session. It's all too much. I think I may be swooning.... Alright I've recovered somewhat. I got my roomate to tape the Peel session, a somewhat precarious operation involving placing my iBook next to my stereo and hooking them together, running a phone line across the room to the stereo and setting the iBook up to play Radio 1's RealAudio feed. Moreover I had a previous engagement and my roomate had to do all the recording, I'm just glad he remembered. As it was the poor iBook crashed right before "The Magic of a Kind Word," so I only heard the other three. I must say I am by no means disappointed. Also, Peel said none of the four would be on the next EP. The skinny for you who are searching Napster frantically... (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique I mention this one first despite its being played last because I love love love it. I suspect it is their take on dub. The culprits - the offbeat reverby piano chords, the warm organ (yes I just said WARM ORGAN), the plodding bass, and Richard going crazy on those skins every so often (although these outbursts lacked the dub-eriffic echoes usually reserved for their traditional dub counterparts). This song is unabashedly happy and oh-so catchy. The only problem is that it's full of snowy wintry imagery and it seems a travesty to hear it in the summertime. But I give it a perfect 10. I keep rewinding it and playing it over and over. It has a decidedly un-dub ubertwee flute/strings breakdown too. Mmmm ok moving on. Shoot the Sexual Athelete Another case of Struan getting more and more self-referential about him and being in a band and all. It's almost like a spoken word rap a la StuD with just bass, drums and Struan rapping and then those guitars kick in. Oh those guitars.... it's like Felt doing a rap song. Lawrence did sort of have a sing-songy way of vocalizing from time to time didn't he? But anyway the song is lovely and fun. Ohhhhh my god and I just figured out a line and realized the whole song is about Robert Forster. I just couldn't understand what he was saying in one line but he spells it all out. It's even got a sort of Forster-ish quality about the singing. Now all the lines later on make so much more sense. Mmm, you've got to love a band that write songs about Go-Betweens. The Magic of a Kind Word Didn't hear it, my roomate missed this one. Is it the sort of electronic-y number? Something in the Silence I've forgotten the title to this one, sorry. Truth be told I've only listened to it twice as it's buried in the middle of the tape and finding it is trickier than finding the other two, and I have to keep replaying Miraculous Technique over and over. It's got Isobel and Sarah singing a duet, and some patently unorthodox instrumentation. i.e. very quiet guitars, lots of vibraphone and harmonica. It's nice but didn't catch my ear as much as the others. Sounds sort of Gentle Waves-ish. I'll have to MP3 them for, ah, my own personal listening enjoyment, and listen to them over and over a bit. So I got Jonathan David the day it came out, walked down a few blocks, checked one record store, didn't have it, checked another, got it there. No fuss no muss. I've listened to it a few times...I must say I was actually a bit concerned about my favorite band starting to get sort of dull. The overwhelmingly upbeat Jonathan David didn't float my boat right away, but I've come to give it a grudging admiration. It's certainly upbeat enough to be the single...anyway the B-sides are lovely too, but not especially exciting. I agree with previous assertions that they dulled down Loneliness a bit too much by burying the guitars in the mix. But it's a damned good song anyway. Oh those organs. But yeah, something in the tension of the song got lost. So now there's a bevy of new B&S songs floating hither and thither and we're going to have to start figuring out how to make sense of them. There's these four tracks from the session, and Big John Shaft (played at Glasgow Uni, equally ace) and the 'Spanish-influenced song' Stevie was asked about by the NME, all of which the band claim won't be on the next EP. Then there's "I'm Waking Up to You," which Stevie said involved 23 session musos in the studio and will be on one of the EPs (so it sounds like it will be on the second...), "I Love My Car," which sounds as though it would be the frontrunner for the A-side to the next single as it's the only new song that they've not specifically dismissed from the EP that they've been playing live. I can hardly imagine them not playing the second single on their tour, and it's supposed to be so catchy and all. I'm excited. Then there's "Lord Antony," which seems sort of forlorn but could still see release. After all, Loneliness finally came out. They seem to have a thing for putting songs that have been languishing on trainspotters' ears on EPs. First Middle Distance Runner, now Loneliness. Who knows. I doubt Rhoda et al will ever see the light of day anytime soon though. Very exciting, that's all I can say. And that's not even counting the whole Storytelling soundtrack.... Brian Pennington | cellophanesky at mac.com | AIM: aVespertineDream Semi-regular observations: the Cellophane Sky: Sandcastle Records: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jun 20 10:54:15 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:54:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Hissing of Summer Loons Message-ID: <001701c0f970$a1eb9c40$8d62253e@itjfvkli> I went to see a film called TIME'S UP. It marks a new low point in the history of independent cinema. It actually looks as if it was filmed on toilet paper. The new single. JONTY DAVID features some really terrible singing. STUFF YOUR CABBAGE CLOCK's string arrangement has all the stately elegance of a month old loaf of Sunblest. MIDDLE DISTANCE RUNNER's guitar solo should have been a real speaker shreddder, the loudest thing in the world, leaping out of the stereo and throttling the listener, but instead it sounds a bit poorly, in need of some Lucozade. I suppose it might grow on me. But right now I'm UNDERWHELMED. And I wasn't scratching my head when I saw the sleeve, I was tutting and shaking my head sadly. I much prefer ISLAND LETTER by Shuggie Otis and WHAT'S GOING ON (rhythm and strings mix) by Marvin Gaye. Is it any wonder I pull so many birds? What really pisses me off about JD is that for just three times the amount of money it cost me I could have had the RELENTLESSLY THUMPING new album by Missy "Misedemeanour" Elliot. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jun 20 10:52:49 2001 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:52:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: He's not joking about the Sherlock Holmes thing, y'know [caution: spoiler] Message-ID: <80256A71.0037D623.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> SHOOT THE SEXUAL ATHLETE Now I'm in a band people try to make me do things Kiss arses and pay tribute But I'm inclined to do those things anyway And I don't care who hears it 'Cause I'm a fan of the Go-Betweens A fan of Robert, and I always have been But I like Grant, now that I've met him Because he's charming Of all the stars, and all the would-be stars I'd take him home, to my mum and dad Yeah, he's charming, but he's a trouble-maker too He amuses me greatly I like Lindy and I saw Vickers Pete stole the set list, and the itinerary He wrote my name down as 'Tour Rent Boy' It was hard, but so is life [terrific violin break] I was making button badges And I had too much time on my hands I coloured them in by hand Pere Ubu and the Sugarcubes Kids came in to watch me But Pete & Sean just scorned Just like they scorned Robert But I secretly liked the big guy He dressed liked Sherlock Holmes And he fixed us with a quizzative eye Before singing such romances That only the sods trampled underfoot by Thatcher Could appreciate their love Could appreciate their love But it doesn't really work without the music. In one way, it sounds like the kind of novelty record that makes it into the Festive 50 at no.31. But in another, it has restored my faith in Belle & Sebastian. Sure, it's a minor piece, but there's so much life on it. No fucking 60s inflections or overloaded string sections or 'what instrument shall we use next'. Instead, just an instinctively great vocal delivery, weird phrasing, experimental instrumentation (is the band doing a kind of human beatbox thing at one point?) and all. Like nothing you've ever heard them do before, yet the effect on *this* listener was to be thrown straight back into the ear-to-ear grin that I had when I fell in love with them in the first place. Incidentally, I think they have made up the word 'quizzative'. I assume it's a conflation of 'quizzical' and 'acquisative', probably meant to mean the former, if I know Robert Forster's looks. And I'm not sure about the I got the 'Pete & Sean' line right. It could be 'Pete Shotton' for all I know. THE MAGIC OF A KIND WORD (for Poppa) I understand the opening lines of this song were met with grimaces when they played it live in Glasgow. "NO! ISOBEL! PLEASE NOT ANOTHER BREATHY SONG FEATURING THE WORD 'SORROW'!" They're tricksters though, and it soon mutates into one of those 60s pop pastiches they ermm.. love. I guess it's OK if you like that sort of thing. Not as overproduced as it might be if they were doing it on their own time NOTHING IN THE SILENCE Y'know, I even quite liked the last Gentle Waves album. But a side-project is a side project. By this point I was just thinking "Hmm.. this session started in the best way possible and now it's just gone to shit. But at least this means the last track is likely to be another Stuart one" MY GIRL'S GOT MIRACULOUS TECHNIQUE Yep, Stuart's back. Peel called it 'My Baby's Got Miraculous Technique' at the end, but I think he was right the first time. I have it down as a grower. Hello everyone. It's nice to be back. I really got excited last night when 'Shoot The Sexual Athlete' came on and I just wanted to tell you all about it. Nick xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Jun 20 10:50:47 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:50:47 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I am a lonesome hobo References: <200106191709.f5JH9Un33400@ns.quik.co.nz> Message-ID: <002a01c0f96f$ac34c740$476137d2@computer> 'lo folks Oh how one gets sick of reading posts about gigs they'd really love to be at, when, realistically speaking, they have no means to be at. (this means you, UK listees). and to Hye Min, who wrote the "6 Reasons Why My Life Sucks Right Now and Why I Can't Do Anything To Help It" post, well, at least B&S are coming to your country, right? I mean, you *could* get there a damn site quicker and cheaper than I could, all the way from arse-end-of-the world New Zealand. (right now my only hope is that, when a certian Mr Robertson comes to New Zealand, he will be *completely blown away* with the beautiful scenary, relaxed lifestly etc., that he will INSIST that B&S relocate here, or at least come over and play some gigs) .... yeah yeah, fat chance. but I feel your pain anyway. ***IRRELEVANT RANT-(please skip)*** I have discovered why most normal Americans hate Christians so much. as a long time Christian, and a fairly reasonably person most of the time, I've always found the vehemence which "normal", reasonable Americans hate Christians with to be a little disturbing. like, why? but yesterday I found out. I was trying to find some information of Templar Knights, to supplement my current reading of Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum". anyway, I come across all these "we hate Roman catholic" sites put up by mad-raving fundamental "Christians" (and I use that term loosely) OK, so the Catholic has been responsible for God know how many atrocities, but this didn't seem to be their reason. no, Catholicism is the "whore religion", is tied up with the Illumaniti, is actually a Satanic cult, and is behind the "new world order", whatever the hell that is. So that was all quite interesting. and then the bit about rock'n'roll. Rock music is evil because it causes children to violate the commandment "children, honour your mother and father". Because some adults don't like rock music, and hence listening to it is disobeying them. nice once folks. I realise this has absolutely nothing to do with Belle & Sebastian, nor indie pop in general, but I just felt like ranting, because ... well, no one else cares. ***CONTINUE READING FROM HEREON IN*** Stephen Malkmus is coming here. I am excited. Sure, he's not Belle & Sebastian, but it's something, right? Although it doesn't sound like he's playing any Pavement stuff, and his album is short, so I can't really see him playing for more than an hour. Still, the tickets are cheap. ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN STUFF*** It is more than a year since "Fold Your Hands ..." came out. I was wondering what the general consensus about the album was, now it's had time to settle. Personally, I now rank it as my second favourite B&S album, like so .... 1. "Tigermilk" 2. "Fold Your Hands Child You Walk Like A Peasant" 3. "If You're Feeling Sinister" 4. "The Boy With The Arab Strap" Of course, I still love "Arab Strap", it's just the one I listen to least. But the worst B&S album is still better than the best albums by most bands, right? The set lists coming back from the gigs sound great. A lot of new material. I really hope a new album materialises soon. I mean, I know they've said that they wont release anything for a while, but it would be nice (hint hint) if the tour, playing together etc., got the creative juices flowing, the they popped off to the studio for a few weeks and churned out an album in a few weeks (like the first two), and not a year like the last two). There is something to be said for spontaneous album creation ... Hefner do it brilliant, and anyone how has had the pleasure of listening to "In The Pines" by The Triffids (recorded in a woolshed for a few hundred bucks, in a few days) will know what I mean. I second the proposal for a bible themed B&S album too .... more suggestions .... "Our 40 years of wandering are over" "Me and the Messiah" "Joseph and the dream of technicolour coats" "Ease your feet in the Red Sea" ***JONATHAN DAVID*** I feel like the only person in the world who hasn't heard it. I am itching with anticipation for the parcel coming from amazon.co.uk (not from Jeepster, because they didn't get their act into gear quickly enough, alas .....) this post lacks focus, I know. And for that I apologise. I am tired, and need to go to sleep. Hope all is well, and that all gig goers are enjoying themselves. think of me, OK? Lawrence Mikkelsen AKA "The Winged Cow" (my "Wu-name", according to a friend into such things) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Jun 20 11:34:53 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:34:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shoot her with your sexual athlete Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775524@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> It's amazing how many people have asked about pre / post gig arrangements. And it's amazing how many times the details have been posted. Oh well, here we go again: Scarborough: There's a coach leaving York at 5pm, or meet on the beach. Bring food and drink for a picnic on the beach opposite the theatre. As always, just look out for people wearing button badges upside-down. Preston: Nothing beforehand as yet, but there's a club opening specially for us afterwards. London: Picnic by the Albert Memorial on Friday afternoon, starting about 2pm-ish, and then more and more people will gradually turn up when they finish work. Bring food, drink, and an inflatable hippopotamus. Picnic in Greenwich on Saturday afternoon after the gig. Bring hangover cures. Birmingham: We get in and out of Birmingham as quick as possible, because it's a dump. (Anyone got a sofa / floor to spare in London? In return, I'll promise not to stand in front of you at the gig...) Anyway, the Peel Session. Not as good as the last session they did on first impressions, maybe the songs will grow on me. First song: Shoot The Sexual Athlete. Good to see the band maintaining their policy of giving songs the most bizarre titles imaginable. Was that Stuart M or another band member doing the Peacock Johnson style can't-be-arsed-to-sing-so-I'll-just-talk-instead-and-hope-noone-notices vocals? My first thought on hearing it was "Lou Reed in the mid-80s". Except it was about the Go-Betweens instead of being about drugs. Long-time viewers may recollect that I'm not a big fan of the Go-Betweens. 'Nuf said. The Magic Of A Kind Word: When it started as a Gentle Waves song, with Isobel's trademark gerbil-having-an-asthma-attack singing, I got a sinking feeling in my stomach. But then the rest of the band joined in, the tempo upped, and it turned into a bit of a knees-up. The arrangement didn't seem to quite gel though, it has the potential to turn out fantastic when it's recorded properly in the studio. Incidentally, it turns out the sinking feeling in my stomach was the burger I'd eaten earlier. Nothing In The Silence: A duet between Sarah and Isobel. Will be popular with people who liked Beyond The Sunrise. (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique: My favourite of the night by a distance. I would put good money on it being the last song on their next album; it has a kind of atmospheric, finality to it, in the same way as Pulp's song David's Last Summer could only ever appear at the end of an album. By the end of the song, you're so engrossed that you don't know if it lasted for 2 minutes or 10. Which is a good thing. Am I the only one who thinks "I Love My Car" sounds like the kind of thing Father Jack would say? Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 12:59:23 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:59:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: R A H (just wondering) Message-ID: <39.1673b8b1.2861ea1b@aol.com> Hi listees Is there anyone organising a meet-up before the Royal Albert Hall gig? Where? When? etc.. Also does anyone know a place to stay (at reasonable cost) near there? Still got that Birmingham ticket going if it's any use to you. I bought The Velvet Underground's "The Velvet Underground" the other day and highly recomend it to you lot, Brill. See u . James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ceasetocare at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 13:32:27 2001 From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:32:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Thank you Stuart for "Isobel's trademark gerbil-having-an-asthma-attack" Message-ID: Stuart, I have to say, that this comment "when it started as a Gentle Waves song, with Isobel's trademark gerbil-having-an-asthma-attack singing" made me laugh harder than I have ever since I started reading gig reviews of all these shows on another continent that I can't go to. So thank you for that. As for those of you who have been going to the gigs and taping Peel sessions . . . is anyone making these new songs available in mp3 format? People have mentioned this, but no one has said exactly where these mysterious mp3s are. I'm sure everyone not in the UK would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help us out here. Thanks, Megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 14:41:19 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: braggin about beeness, cool poems, and RESULTS! Message-ID: <20010620134119.60778.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Ian said: "But it was very difficult this morning not to sound like an excited little girl when my work people asked me how my weekend had been, cause it was lots of fun. They probably all think I'm a little bit sad now." I know how that feels. I came back to uni, and I spotted my pals. They looked at me. How was the gig? they asked. That was Monday afternoon. I *think* I stopped bleeting how brilliant the gig was some time yesterday evening (tuesday). I'm not entirely sure. I think I ought to do a sponsored "don't say the beeness name!" thing for a week. That'll shut me up. I'll have to think of something else to say. But no, I won't. I gotta milk this story for a few more months yet, cos its a rare thing, these gigs. You have to savour them.. the fragrance before, the initial taste, then the warm feeling in your belly afterwards, where you lick your lips and sigh with contentment. I saw this great poem today. I was waiting for the bus (had been to buy Boots entire store of hayfever relief thingys) and there was this dude there, with this great big bit of card, with this poem written on it. It was the best poem I've read in years. Get this line, you lot: "Terry says hes stopped playing the cryptic crosswords, I know how he feels". Sorry, but I was impressed. So I spoke to the poem man there and then, and just told him how awestruck I was by his poem. Its a poem about falling out of love, you see, and it has this reference at the bottom, where New Scientist reckoned that love was a mental illnes, and lasts 18 months tops. And this guy was making some sort of comment about falling out of love. It was called "Exit Notes (moment of departure)". It was trully fantastic. i've never been so dumbfounded and astonished by poetry like that for such a long time. I can't remember his name though. Hmm. JP sesh was ace last night. Anyone off here enter the beeness competition for tix to London? Bet you ALL did, even if you've already seen them on this tour! Still, like I said, savour it. Whens the next Beeness single out? Anyone know? Has it got a title? What songs are on it? I'm a little excitable today. Oh, and my flatmate got her results. She got a 2:1, the jammy babe. Their due out Friday, apparently. I started shakign with fear for no apparent reason last night when I heard its Friday. Or before Friday, depending on when they manage to get them out. I've put my pals on emergency Haagen Daz standby (chocolate chip) incase it all goes dreadfully wrong. That way, when I jump off the top of the uni building, it won't take so long to fall, cos my extra weight and the effects of gravity will assist. Keep your knickers crossed and wish happy thoughts for me. Alternatively, if anyone fancies calling UEA (Norwich) and bribing them... Cheers Idles xxxxx ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 17:37:36 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:37:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Again, Sorry Message-ID: <000301c0f9a7$600b93c0$95347ad5@default> Hi There, I found a few other memories of last weekend kicking around in my head that no-one else seems to have covered. About 3 songs into Saturday's gig Stuart was going on about how great it was to be doing a concert in your hometown, when you can wake up in your own bed. The he remembered that he hadn't woken up in his own bed .... & said that it was a good thing that his Mum & Dad weren't there (although his sister would probably tell them) More star spotting: Saturday afternoon we saw Stevie returning from town on the Great Western Road having bought the cow, sheep, Glasgow rock etc. Who was it that said that he was the only band member in the Art School later? (James?) Mick & Bob were there too. At Stabiliser Towers on Friday night we were lucky enough to watch the hilarious Jonathan David video a couple of times (some saw it so many times they no longer considered it lucky ...) The love triangle story is intercut with the band performing the song in costume: Stevie at the piano with Jason King moustache & feather boa, Stuart all Marcel Marceau in whiteface, Mick in a blonde wig (again!), Beans playing melodica in a hat, Oh, I can't remember the rest. When Stuart looks at the girl his facial expression says he wants to EAT her. Stevie's sadness very touching. In Another Place Jordi was asking about The Smiths cover on Friday. I don't know if The Boy With The Thorn In His Side was actually requested or just any Smiths song. Stevie said he knew the chords and he & Stuart sang it although neither could really remember the words. Isobel should have sung it as she seemed to know them perfectly. Er, Saturday's covers. For the sake of good taste & decency I feel I should point out that during the Declaimers song Stuart didn't look too happy & finished it (at last!) saying something like "that's enough of that rubbish" I know I'm being boring but Saturday WAS a fantastic gig. When's the live album coming out, pretty please? This is a cheek too, Nick (hi, great to hear from you again!) having done all the hard work, but I heard 3 minor differences to him in the first song of last night's session, so: SHOOT THE SEXUAL ATHLETE Now I'm in a band people try to make me do things Kiss arses and pay tribute But I'm inclined today to do those things anyway And I don't care who hears it 'Cause I'm a fan of the Go-Betweens A fan of Robert, and I always have been But I like Grant, now that I've met him Because he's charming Of all the stars, and all the would-be stars I'd take him home, to my mum and dad Yeah, he's charming, but he's a trouble-maker too He amuses me greatly I like Lindy and I saw Vickers Pete stole the set list, and the itinerary He wrote my name down as 'Tour Rent Boy' It was hard, but so is life I was making button badges And I had too much time on my hands I coloured them by hand Pere Ubu and the Sugarcubes Kids came in to watch me But Pete & Sean just scorned Just like they scorned Robert But I secretly loved the big guy He dressed like Sherlock Holmes And he fixed us with a quizzative eye Before singing such romances That only the sods trampled underfoot by Thatcher Could appreciate their love Could appreciate their love Someone said it was reminiscent of 80's Lou Reed, but I was put in mind of another Velvet as its spoken a bit like the way John Cale recites The Gift Happy Birthday to the Pinefox! Better go now, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Wed Jun 20 18:17:44 2001 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:17:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peel Session Tunes Message-ID: Well, those new tracks they played last night were pretty impressive were they not? I particularly liked 'The Magic of a Kind Word', although they're all pretty good tunes. For anybody who missed it or wants to hear the songs again, I recorded the songs from digital satellite to computer and converted them to MP3 (the sound quality is excellent!) and intend putting them up on my site (www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk) next week once I have sorted out some more webspace. I will post a message again when the MP3s are available for download. The new single is pretty good too. I'd never heard 'Jonathan David' until I bought it and it's really good (in my opinion), a real grower. Not sure about 'Carriage Clock', initial impression was one of indifference but I'll give it more time, and of course 'Middle Distance Runner' is 'Middle Distance Runner' so it couldn't be bad, although I still prefer the live Tube version. It's a shame JD hasn't had more airplay on the radio cos I think it could've done really well in the charts cos it's really catchy, but hey, who cares about the charts anyway! Typical, you wait ages for a new song and then 7 come along at once. David White david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Join the www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk mailing list to get regular site updates and news, send a blank email to belleandsebastian-subscribe at listbot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 17:52:47 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:52:47 Subject: Sinister: Probing questions... Message-ID: Well kids, I think I may as well have my say on the Peel session, so here goes: IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. I'm glad I recorded it, though, because I wasn't keen on STSA initially, but now I love it. This may be asking for trouble, but, as I say, I taped the session, and so if anybody missed out, I'd be happy to send them a copy if they send me a tape, even to someone as far afield as Lawrence... As for the single, does anybody else think that the string section in TYCCASI sounds like a slowed down version of "There's Too Much Love" off FISHYCLAP? I do. And when it breaks down just before the vocal line comes in again, I think it sounds a lot like "A Century Of Fakers". I had a horribelle thought at work today. I had Tigermilk, IYFS and TWATTYBUS all playing, and I suddenly thought, "Are B&S actually any good anymore?", and I almost came to the conclusion of "No". Almost, but not quite. The reason for this was that as IYFS was playing, I was thinking about how the first three albums (and the early EPs) spoke to me really brilliantly, eloquently, perfectly about my life, and told me that it was okay to feel the way I did about things, and all the rest of it. Then I thought, "Does FISHYCLAP do this kind of thing to me?", and I though, "not reeeeaaaaaallllly, but it does have some delightful stories". The thing is, they no longer seem to touch me like they used to, and I thought, "I'm prolly just growing out of B&S". But then I downloaded Rhoda a couple of weeks ago and absolutely adored it and musically hugged it and all the rest of it and it gave me the same feeling that they first albums did, so perhaps I'm just being all NME and only liking the early stuff. I really really really hope that they return to the kind of blinding form they showed in the late-nineties, cos they were fab. Don't get me wrong, all their songs are rilly grate, and just cos they don't **speak** to me doesn't mean they're not witty and tuneful and all the rest of it, and a shitload better than 99.9% of other indie bands. It's just that I feel that B&S are like a former Champion football team who always finish 2nd or 3rd in the table, but we all know that they can finish top...(much like my beloved ARSENAL, but anyway). Anyway, sorry for the rant, I just wondered if anybody else felt this way, or if I was just having an off day... ENOUGH! love Sam.x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 19:07:05 2001 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: B.S.P.D Message-ID: <4689891.993060425577.JavaMail.imail@chilly.excite.com> hi there, im so happy today,no not cos i found my friends as nirvana sang way back when i was a lad but because the mighty B&S are back and rocking in a twee way of course. the session last night was the best B7s stuff i've heard in a long while the single is double ace and the gig in glasgow was probberly the most amazing thing i've ever seen in my life,so all in all im pretty happy being a B&S fan at the moment,i certainly had my doubts after listining to FISHYCLAP and whatever its called but they've come good again,im sorry to everyonew who likes FISHYCLAP by the way i just thought it was a bit rubbish. My friend told me today that one year everytime he went outside his house it rained as son as he stepped out i mean that would put you off going out for life wouldnt it,i certainly wouldnt go out if it rained everytime,either that or buy lots of umbrellas but then i'd probberly loose,cos im pretty forgetfull about things like that,well umbrellas,wallets keys you name i've loose it..... actually knowing the smut you lot come out with its probberly a bad idea. the underground system in glasgow is ace it just goes round and round in a big circle which is grate cos if you miss your stop you just ride it a bit more and eventually you'll end up where you want to go,handy for those moments when your late for a B&S kneesup over at kelvinbridge park,talking of parks the picnic on the 29th i cant make cos i'll be at work,i can hear the cheers from here but i'll defenitly be at the 30th picnic cos its my buffday woooooooooooooooooo,so you can all make me hommade cards etc that would be nice,even though i know no ones going to bother. the uptown shufflers mentioned an 8-0 football score i was tempted to shout no 6-5 due to a dubious offside looking to me allie cook winner,but they wouldnt have heard me and i would have been lynched by the crazy B&S kids those crazy kids. my posts allways have loads of mistakes in them cos i try and touch type,i tell you what id never make it as a secutary infact i'd never make it with a secutary,boom boom. right im off, take care everyone Daf x _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhm0crw at xxx.UK Wed Jun 20 21:46:24 2001 From: jhm0crw at xxx.UK (C.R. Walker) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:46:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: Lots of fun songs! Message-ID: <36CBE644A79@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Hey there everyone. You probably don't remember me, etcetera etcetera... You have no reason to remember me really and I'm sure you will forget me instantly. But never mind... By "lots of fun songs!", I'm referring to things such as the Peel session tracks last night. I don't think I've listened to them enough yet to be able to say anything too useful, but it was fun anyway. I didn't know what to think about some of it - it struck me as a bit strange, but that's never a bad thing, so I'm sure I'll get over it. As for the Jonathan David single, being the dedicated fan that I am I rushed out on Monday morning to buy it, although I know I have to wait till the weekend to hear it coz I don't have a CD player, so I can't listen to it till I get home on Saturday. But hey - it'll be all the more fun when I do. Yeay - I've finally heard Camera Obscura. (coz you've all been talking about them a lot, so I've been curious). I really liked the song (80s Fan [?]). Very B&S like, but not, if you get me ((which I'm sure you don't)). Tell me, Do you wash your hair in honeydew? I've never tried it myself. It sounds as though it could be quite sticky. What is honeydew anyway? Anyway, I should go away and stop rambling. Seeya later, Cloy (/Chloe..) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Wed Jun 20 21:51:05 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Tom Pettinger) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:51:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Damp eyed lemons and foamy bananas Message-ID: <001d01c0f9ca$ba60f400$e1225ad4@pbncomputer> Aargghh! Out of the bubble wrapped nursery and thrown headfirst into the darkest depths of Sinister. So for the first time... Good Evening, Sinisterbites! (that's a term of endearment, right?) Well, the Peely Session was fine and dandy even if I did feel like kicking my radio every time he said, "here's something I brought back from Barcelona", but if that's the price to pay for some whopping songs, so be it. The first one wasn't hugely impressive, but "My Girl's Got..." would have made it all worthwhile on it's own. The whole of the UK did not sit back and allow me to be the only one entering the competition, which I thought was most rude. I couldn't have gone even if I did win, but I could have got to touch a ticket. Maybe rip a bit off and eat it before selling it on... anyway... As this is my first post (and I'm not well known) I thought I'd start with a personal and optimistic insight into my sad little world in the recent style... 4 Reasons why my life is pretty crap right now (go on, read, some of it's mildly amusing even if it's ever so slightly self-indulgent): 1)Having been promised for the past month by the friends of the most beautiful girl (in the world, ever) that she likes me I find out it was a big bag of pants. The moral of this story is, if someone promises something, believe them. If they promise something that should in any way benefit me, don't. 2) The other night (my first friday night of freedom from exams) I went to a local club where I usually meet most of my friends, only to find there was hardly anyone there. But, the plot thickens... the couple that were there were surprised to see me as apparently everyone thought it was my party that night. If any member of sinister can personally beat "not being invited to your own party" for evidence of being an utter loner, post it on the list, e-mail me your address and I will honestly send you a packet of Opal Fruits. ***LIMITED TO ONE BEST STORY*** 3) I have recently found out I cannot go to any B&S gigs or Sinister picnics this year. At all. Bug-ger. 4) I am a fully fledged member of Sinister and I do not own one cardigan.(However, I am currently sipping a large beaker of ribena, so can I still be in?). ****************B&S content******************* Well, as I said, I can't make any of the gigs this year so the B&S content's going to be pretty thin...bought Jonathan David...like it,(But paid £4 for the privilege, someone confirm my fear that I was ripped off by the only shop that had it, "Our Price") although I think "...Shove it" takes my vote. In J.D. I like the bit were the voices come in but my favourite bit is the section that bridges "It's not like we'll be parted..." and "you'll be in love, there's no other way." I was a little vexed to see that someone would actually rather have bought Missy Elliot than J.D, I just can't abide that woman.(Missy Elliot, not the postee) I promise you, if there was a machine to measure talent Missy Elliot would have fallen off the bottom. Any misguided Missy Elliot fans should, by now, been brought back to reality with a sharp knock having heard her latest release. S**t is not the word. ;-) (Don't take it personally, guys!) I can hardly bear to listen to Simple Things at the moment, it is *so* relevant you wouldn't believe it, me playin' guitar and the girl thing an' all, and it reduces me to feeling like a big damp eyed lemon. (that is to say, bitter...) Can anyone who is into the gentle waves suggest an album? I bought "Green fields..." and although I respect that it is better than mucho music at the moment it's a little on the dinky side for me, but I want to buy another album so if someone could tell me "they're not all quite so sweet and sugary" I will. Does anyone get the impression that some of the melodies form "Green fields..." are stolen nursery rhymes? The other day I got a tub of foamy banana sweeties, absolutely free. That is true and if you doubt me I will send you one. I've gone on too long already...but if you read after my name there's a sinister little bedtime story... talking of bedtime, it's almost 8 'o' clock. Tom 'They stood in the middle of the road. The boy said to the old man, "why does the road become narrower at the other end?" The old man replied, "That is perspective, child. When you arrive there, the road will be just as wide as it is here." So the boy walked along the road for a very long time. When he was far along it, the two sides had converged so much that he could travel no further. He went back to ask the old man, but the old man was dead.' P.S: Whoever said it was worse not to be in the same country as B&S, well, point taken, but if you're not going you're not going regardless! Anyway, I will cry with you as I am in the same boat. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From camo811 at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 22:07:04 2001 From: camo811 at xxx.com (Derek s) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Postings by an Obscure listee from the distant past. Plus Mogwai Message-ID: <20010620210704.23344.qmail@web10907.mail.yahoo.com> Perhaps not so distant, but anyway. It's been quite the while since I last posted, so much has transpired. All I can say that in retrospect, this year, my junior year of high school has been the biggest emotional rollercoaster of my entire life. It followed a standard plotline, Exposition, Rising action, and climax, which was the night of the junior prom, which I did not attend, but did manage to go the afterprom celebration. Anyway, I got really blitzed and heard things I never wanted to hear, saw things I didnt want to see etc. If there's such thing as having a bad trip on alcohol, I did it. But that's enough of that. My real reason for posting is because I wanted to know if anyone was going to the Mogwai show at Irving Plaza this saturday. I sure as hell am. Well anyway, if you want to say hello to me, i'll probably be wearing a red t-shirt and khaki pants with hand-sown red crisscross stitching on them, and if I can secure it properly, I'll be wearing my "To hell with Hitler" badge. (No offense to any Nazi sinisterines. You'd be surprised, there's a few, they're just good at hiding it)It's an original from WW2 and it falls off alot, i most certainly do not want to lose it. I'll be there with a group of non-sinisterines, but feel free to give me a wave, they wont mind. Sorry for the inane post. I tried to think of something witty and profound to say but I failed. Derek S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 22:00:54 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:00:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: BRAG BRAG BRAG Message-ID: <20010620211010.FYDB298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.88.13]> Ha ha ha ha I'm sooooooooooooo happie! happy happy happy. Actually, I should be really unhappy as I was today given 0 in my GCSE assessed Chemistry Practical which is worth 12.5% of my final grade. It's kinda unfair though as I said I'll give it in tomorrow which I will and I hope she'll accept it. 1 day late and I fail my exam? I hate Mrs. Cooper my chemistry teacher. She's incompetent and takes it out on her classes by being really evil. She just can't teach. Never mind about life affecting exams, though. I got a return for the R!A!H! gig! Row 5! Happy Happy. Does anyone mind if a depressed drop-out 15-year old comes to the picnic? I hope not and I hope that no-one on Sinister turns out ot be truly sinister or violent and beats me up. Also, I found out that term finishes one day earlier than I thought so now I can go to the Bournemouth gig and not get home at 1 o'clock in the morning the next day and not spend the last day of term falling gently asleep though my lessons. Also, I may be able to persuade this person to come with me and his family happen to own a house in Bournemoth which we could maybe sleep in and not have to travel all the way back on a midnight train. Happy! Unhappy. Hope that all Chemistry goes OK an that all of you are happy and content in your sinister little lives, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 22:00:54 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:00:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: BRAG BRAG BRAG Message-ID: <20010620211106.FYPS298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.88.13]> Ha ha ha ha I'm sooooooooooooo happie! happy happy happy. Actually, I should be really unhappy as I was today given 0 in my GCSE assessed Chemistry Practical which is worth 12.5% of my final grade. It's kinda unfair though as I said I'll give it in tomorrow which I will and I hope she'll accept it. 1 day late and I fail my exam? I hate Mrs. Cooper my chemistry teacher. She's incompetent and takes it out on her classes by being really evil. She just can't teach. Never mind about life affecting exams, though. I got a return for the R!A!H! gig! Row 5! Happy Happy. Does anyone mind if a depressed drop-out 15-year old comes to the picnic? I hope not and I hope that no-one on Sinister turns out ot be truly sinister or violent and beats me up. Also, I found out that term finishes one day earlier than I thought so now I can go to the Bournemouth gig and not get home at 1 o'clock in the morning the next day and not spend the last day of term falling gently asleep though my lessons. Also, I may be able to persuade this person to come with me and his family happen to own a house in Bournemoth which we could maybe sleep in and not have to travel all the way back on a midnight train. Happy! Unhappy. Hope that all Chemistry goes OK an that all of you are happy and content in your sinister little lives, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shedgehog at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 23:22:53 2001 From: shedgehog at xxx.com (Sarahs socks) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:22:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Take your revision notes and shove it Message-ID: Its a long walk home. They left our skis on the other side of the mountain. I think of the warm, lingering bath awaiting my return from this cold expanse. There's only a week or so left to go now and I still have to trek through the hideous landscape, which lies brutal and daunting, beckoning me into its cold crisp snare. This how I feel at the moment. I'm doing to much revision and its making me spew out pretentious metaphors (I still have exams, everyone else is finished, its not fair). I may have Belle and Sebastian, David Byrne and Radiohead to see in the week after I finish. But this is not making me feel any better at this present moment. On a winging tirade, I will tell of a most unfortunate occurence that happened last week. I was supposed to be going to the strokes gig in Oxford, in order to review it for the student paper. I was quite excited, not because of the strokes, who I'm none to fond of, but because of the moldy peaches and MHS who where supporting them. Unfortunately, big scary zodiac bouncer (who has a reputation for being a big mean brute) took a disliking to me and didn't look at the guest list properly to see if I was on it. The moral of the story is, never depend on press passes for sold out gigs, they will only disappoint. Exspecialy if you only write for a small insignificant student paper and the NME and the Guardian are writing reviews for the same gig. I was even more upset when I heard reports of the moldy peaches giving everyone hugs. That wasn't you in a legal man t-shirt I saw going into the gig carsmile steve was it? I have my own tickets for B&S thank god, so unless a luminous green monster eats them or I drop them in a cow pat or something, I should be fine. On a plus note, I had a lovely evening a week or so ago, when I went to see preston school of industry and meet up with Oxford listee Mark Hester and his girlfriend. Unlike PSI, who although competent (and spiral stairs was very nice and friendly), where about as dull as chewing on a radiator, Mark was a very nice chap, as was his girlfriend who my hedgehog horace seemed quite fond of. On the subject of hedgehogs, I saw one as I was walking home that night. He just stood and stared at me for a while before going about his business, I think he may have given me a wink. I was very excited when I got in. Just about as excited as I probably will be the day of the Brum B&S gig. Love and hedgehugs Sarahsocks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Wed Jun 20 23:36:32 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:36:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Stuart is a sexual athelete Message-ID: <119.90c83a.28627f71@aol.com> Hello again there Sinister peeps... Ey, wasn't the Peely session last night complete rockabilly? I loved the first track "Shoot the sexual athlete," Is it just me or does Stuart do some really cutesy voice on it? Like over-accentuating what he's saying in some bizarre rap like structure. I melted anyway. Does he speak like that normally or was he just putting it on? Oooohh, I do hope he speaks like that normally. That would just make me his forever more. The last track is adorably upbeat too. It is the perfect thing for walking home on a Summer's day too after a bad exam. One of the questions on my English Literaure paper was about Coleridge poems that I had never seen in my life. Ever. Silly wee Smackheid (said in suitably Glaswegian accent.) Even so, I was walking home and I had it on my walkman and was watching wee children throw waterbombs at each other in the street. The sun shone and I felt just wonderful in spite of everything. In spite of the fact that it was a year ago tonight I sat in a Transit van with my best friends roaring towards Glastonbury, singing along to silly songs and possibly having the best time of my life. It seems strange that it was so long ago and yet seems to have gone in a breath of air. It just seems so strange and short. Such is life I suppose. It can never be all Tootsie Rolls and fond memories. This is possibly the result of listening to Godspeedyoublackemperor! over dinner with family. It was a bizarre experience at least, if nothing else. With dusk fading over the remnants of dinner it was quite beautiful in its own way. I listened to such sad music that it always makes you cry when you hear it. We turned it off and listened to Nick Drake instead. It suited the sun going down behind the cars. Mr Peter Carter...could you send me Tee-Shirt designs and txt files of "Judy and the dream of horses" to my email address? In return, you may get some of my cultural masterpieces. Also, other girly who offered T-Shirt designs, could you design one saying "Duffle-Coat Mafia," for me? It is what me and my friend's call ourselves because we wear glasses and look twee yet can kick arse. I can't see Belle and Sebastian in England due to fucking evil A-Levels (American Politics paper. Makes me want to cry buckets...) but I'm spending £500 on going to see them at Benicassim. Hey, I feel this makes me a bloody adoring fan. I'm looking forward to yet another road trip anyway and I'll be sure to send you a review. From what I've been hearing of them on tour so far, they sound absolutely excellent. Oooh...I'm so excited! I feel this has taken about fifteen minutes, what with the interruptions. I've just been offered tickets to see the Strokes sold-out gig tomorrow! Hooray!! Love and Lollypops Cay xXx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 00:15:10 2001 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (Jim Taylor) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:15:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: glasgee goings on & SPARE london RAH ticket Message-ID: Hello sinisterworld Had a marvellous time in Glasgow, lovely to hang out with the usual suspects plus numerous others from far & wide including Jena (&Helen) (who had to forsake picnic for sightseeing since they are from various others sides of the planet) Aaron, the Football Massive (despite losing. I worked it out a bit after � I was especially crap & half arsed as I was mildly pissed, or at keast thats this weeks excuse (they do vary, the excuses)). Not sure I can make the pre RAH return leg as I'll probably have be at work the Friday afternoon, but I trust we'll make amends buy displaying our superior skills or break Ally's legs, one of the two :) Museum of modern Art was tops too. Flatmate questioned my perception that Glasgow is more friendly than London � I thought that wasn't just me was it??? Gigs have been done thoroughly already, erm covers were particularly fun & I suppose relatively brave to do, oh, I don't have too much worthwhile to add to what has been said already. Can relate to Mr Cabbage's problem. Tis amazing how much your experience of a gig or whatever can be clouded by how you feel already because of life events/tiredness or people talking bollocks loudly/singing badly. For this reason Saturday was loads better for me, plus it's a bit like getting all the early gig disbelief your actually seeing them over & done with, and then just soaking it all in a bit more, 2nd night in a row. Belated Birthday greetings go to Parish Top Geezer Martin � how many people did forsake listening to a Peel session live to go to the pub?? & the Fox of the Pine too?!! Thanks for everyone for being so lovely SPARE LONDON TICKET Spare stalls ticket for Royal Albert Hall gig Friday week @ cost (�16 & 4 booking fee) Email not me but slot jockey gareth: gashparsnips at hotmail.com but please copy mail to me so i can keep up with if i'm going to have to get it off him to shift it at the gig off for another year or two of lurking jim _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From homero at xxx.pt Wed Jun 20 19:39:51 2001 From: homero at xxx.pt (pedro homero) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:39:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dumb question about b&s members Message-ID: <00a601c0f9b8$9aabe870$0f23a8c0@labcom.ubi.pt> hi everyone. i'm setting up a site related to veganism, mainly in portuguese (yep, the lad's from portugal), but with some sections and texts translated to other language. That said, my questions are these: who, in b&s, is vegetarian? and who, in b&s, is vegan? I read somewhere that Isobel is vegan. Is it true? (i found out today that she's younger than me, i'm about to collapse due to the fact!). Those facts will help me build one of those tedious famous vegans page. Right. Well, help me anyway, will you? Thanks a million. Luv, Pedro oh, by the way, i guess it'll probably be nicer, to the rest of the list, that is, if you could answer me directly. That'll be to homero at ubi.pt thanks again. :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Thu Jun 21 02:39:58 2001 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:39:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: more peel session lyrics Message-ID: <3B31506E.2E945138@earthlink.net> Here's an attempt at lyrics for "Nothing in the Silence" and "(My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique." I was having trouble with "The Magic of a Kind Word," so I didn't bother. NOTHING IN THE SILENCE Something set me thinking When I opened up my eyes That there was nothing there to tell me I'd been listening to lies But in silence there is truth There is beauty, there is love There is nothing in the silence To be frightened of Her retreat in so few words Is the last thing you'd expect But there's danger in assuming That she's being direct Take a look behind her eyes And you will see That she knows nothing of silence Silence can only come from me Allow me then a little time To listen to their voices It's the glamour and confusion It's the rattling and the noises That obscure the truth, the beauty, And the love, And the clarity that silence Is the guardian of She talks of clarity and silence, Of beauty and of truth But such a hurt for evidence Such a [??] for proof Take a look behind her eyes And you will see That she knows nothing of silence Silence can only come from me ------------- (MY GIRL'S GOT) MIRACULOUS TECHNIQUE Oh no, the snow's stopped snowing Maybe we'll get some bowling and drinking in And looking at the sky Pretend that you despise it Why does your lazy eye rest on his skin His arm, and his [??] too CHORUS Take a look around you The spring has sent the sound of rain upon your windowsill So grab your coat and play a song for me Don't think that I've forgotten We've grown up, but I know the reason I want to curl up in your room That's why we're on the late shift Take me, I've made a [??]. I've got my clothes dry-cleaned To commemorate the day REPEAT CHORUS STRINGS AND FLUTE BIT And now my legs are weak, but if I Hear my baby speak then I'll start running She's got miraculous technique If I could be a song, I would be Something that would snake into your room And be with you the whole night long REPEAT CHORUS MORE STRINGS AND FLUTE TO END +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mouser at xxx.net Thu Jun 21 04:28:51 2001 From: mouser at xxx.net (Shawn and Emily) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:28:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: more peel session lyrics References: <3B31506E.2E945138@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <013a01c0fa02$4b51bb20$e218fea9@7b74c01> Hello everyone. On the session during (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique, Stuart actually sings: That's why we're on the late shift JP at Maida Vale. I've got my clothes dry-cleaned To commemorate the day But, during the recent shows he sang it out as "John Peel." Hope this helps......Shawn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 07:58:36 2001 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:58:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Maybe we'll get some pulling and drinking in In-Reply-To: <3B31506E.2E945138@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200106210702.AAA05237@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Hey Again, Damon I swore this is what I thought the lyric in Miraculous Technique was. My roomate still thinks it is defintely pulling. I'm sort of sitting on the fence. I hope it is pulling though. Either way my roomate keeps requesting I play the song, and he's not even that big of a B&S fan. It's damn catchy. Also, my bad in thinking the entirety of Sexual Athelete was Forster-related. I knew that line about Sherlock Holmes had to refer to him though. I'm more glad it refers to all the key Go-Betweens. They deserve a lovable B&S rap. Felt seem more fitting for something like several notes of a Clientele guitar solo. I'm sorry that I didn't make it to the Sinister NYC picnic. But I keep running into sinisterines everywhere so I didn't feel the urge to head into Manhattan to make an afternoon of it. I swear I've almost run into sinisterines as many times as I've listened to B&S in the last few days. I see them everywhere. On the bus, on the way to the subway, at shows of course, even at the bar my friends and I hang out at. I swear there's one hiding in my laundry, but I'm waiting for him to think I've forgotten about him. Then it's out with the hot pokers. I had a rather B&S moment the other day. Even a specifically Sinister one. I was asked over to someone's apartment for the dubious purpose of watching Don't Look Back. So we listened to Jonathan David and then watched Dylan in the movies. My roomate and I are listening to King Tubby in honor of B&S' new dubby tune. I think we should all do either some drinking and pulling or some drinking and bowling this weekend in tribute. That is all. Brian Pennington | cellophanesky at mac.com | AIM: aVespertineDream Semi-regular observations: the Cellophane Sky: Sandcastle Records: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 09:50:40 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:50:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hasn't this bloke got any work to do? Message-ID: <000101c0fa2f$951ebb40$d2c77ad5@default> Hi All, Not a lot to say except for a revision of Damo's penultimate Nothing In The Silence verse, where I reckon Sarah sings: She talks of clarity and silence, Of beauty and of truth But search her heart for evidence Search her soul for proof and I think his missing word in the second verse of (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique is Pretend that you despise it Why does your lazy eye rest on his skin His arm, and his [wallet] too Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Thu Jun 21 12:14:49 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:14:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow, London picnic. Message-ID: Hello, I don't know if there is much I can say about the Glasgow gigs that hasn't been said already, it would be rude not to say anything though because it was brilliant, Stuart is a star. I was so excited that I jumped around like a five year old and grinned like an idiot for hours (I am much too old for that kind of behaviour). When Stuart sang the intro to Slow Graffiti it was gorgeous, if it went on for any longer I might have wet myself, so thank goodness it doesn't. Isobel's shoes were fab, Sarah should sing more, their click-click-cha skills are outstanding. All in all I think it's safe to say that B&S kick b*tt. Saturday 30th June is the picnic in Greenwich and I said I'd post something helpful about it. It starts at 2pm and it's in Greenwich park. For anyone who hasn't been there before you either get an overland train to Maze Hill station and then the park is just like, there. Or get the tube to North Greenwich and get the 188 bus, you get off the bus outside the arches leisure centre. Easy. If anyone needs further assistance just e-mail me and I will do my best to help. Here's a map, apologies if it doesn't come out as a proper link thing: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=539030&Y=177158&A=Y&Z=1 Outside the observatory (at the top of the hill) there's a statue and I think we should meet there. Please can we not sit in the garden this time? You can't see the lovely view from there and it's a waste. If you get lost you can phone me on 07932 695391 and I will probably give you rubbish directions. You must bring booze, food, birthday presents for Martin and David, one person needs to bring a football and then I think everyone will be happy. After the picnic anyone who doesn't go to see Camera Obscura at the spitz will be rounded up and shot for being so stupid. Go and buy the single on Monday if you need persuading. Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinister at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 11:38:16 2001 From: sinister at xxx.com (John Jennings) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:38:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Early in the morning, just as day is dawning. Message-ID: <3B31CE98.8040605@london.com> Aha. good morning young sinister people. Ooh I haven't posted for ages, this is very exciting, hello to the 5 people who vaguely remember seeing my name somewhere before. *Peel Session* Well first, this Peel Session. Sorry. I know everyones talking about it (like eastenders... ooh i can't believe ashley died. ahem.) but i wanted to say a couple of things. Firstly i'm fairly sure the lyric is 'bowling' and not 'pulling'. I don't think thats really Stuarts style is it? Or maybe it is now, he seems to be changing his style quite a bit.. hmm... Also, i'm so surprised no-one has pointed out the similarity between 'the magic of a kind word' and 'rhoda'. Go on, listen to them both and tell me i'm wrong. Well actually, don't. That might upset me. Finally, my tape ran out half way through miraculous technique and the bluddy thing turned itself over, like they tend to, but i missed a good 13 seconds, which is very annoying. grr... and its the only mp3 i couldn't find on t'internet. (this whole paragraph is hypothetical of course, i would never tape off the radio or look for illegal mp3s in real life.... no no no). *New stuff vs. Old Stuff* I'm ultra excited about going to see 'em at birmingham now though, the new stuff is all so great. Well actually, i say that, and it is nice to listen to, but i agree with whoever it was (sorry, my pooters going really slow and i can't start up netscape to find who it was; i would normally) who said that none of the stuff since arab strap has really had the same sort of sound and effect on you as sinister did... not really sure how to describe it... miraculous technique and carriage clock are the two recent ones that i really love but its not like... erm... the same... sorry. does anyone have any idea what i'm on about? *Postman Pat* Roight, anyways, the title of my email is from postman pat as many of you will have noticed... and there is a reason for it... ooh yes. everyone who has the field mice compilation cd thingy, go and get it, open your cd player, take out jonathan david, put in the orange cd and skip to track number 10 (indian ocean)... ok now fast forward to about 3:20 and listen to it until it fades out. Doesn't it sound exactly like the music that they used to play on postman pat when he was driving his van around the hills? it does definately. i realised yesterday... i had it on in the background whilst attempting to revise for my hinduism exam which i still haven't had yet (grr... everyones finished their exams apart from me)... and i immediately thought 'oh my god its postman pat' but it wasn't. ahem. *Jonathan David* Lots of people have said they wish this was played on the radio more as it could have done really well. I think its going to do really well anyway... i mean, come on, legal man, the worst possible song to release, got to number 15 didn't it? Besides it has been played quite a lot... mark and lard have been playing it loads.... i was at my friends house and it came on and i shouted very loud and turned the volume really loud and everyone in the house thought i was being murdered or something. but my friend said he liked it which made me sort of happy... seeing as he tends to like sort of popular stuff like travis and coldplay and all that... or maybe thats a bad thing that he liked it actually... Ok i'm just rambling now Nice to be back and all that I'm going to carry on revising now. Any hindus on the list? John. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Thu Jun 21 14:42:21 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:42:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Probing questions... Message-ID: <20010621134221.88110.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> I know I just posted yesterday or something, but mr. sam walton's nicely phrased thoughts on b&s made me want to throw my two cents (pence, whatever) in. basically, he said this: '"Are B&S actually any good anymore?", and I almost came to the conclusion of "No".' then he said this: "Anyway, sorry for the rant, I just wondered if anybody else felt this way, or if I was just having an off day..." I know it's been brought up before (i.e., are b&s crap now, are the new songs any good, blah blah blah...) but it seems relevant in light of the gigs, "jonathan david", and the peel session. I went into the archives (something we all should do every once in a while; it's quite instructive) and you can see the same concerns going as far back as when twattybus was new. I sort of feel the same way as sam; the new b&s stuff hasn't "spoken" to me the same way as the earlier stuff has. I can't put my finger on why, exactly, but I think it has something to do with a change in emphasis from the sort of lyrics that while specific, have a sort of allegorical nature as well, and an emphasis on pretty music over words. just yesterday I listened to the new single, enjoyed it, then put on iyfs and got goosebumps and broke into a huge uncontrollable smile. that's what this music does to me, and what the new stuff doesn't really do. but maybe I'm just turning into a cranky old man. for what it's worth, I still love 'em to bits. hope someone finds this interesting, eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Thu Jun 21 15:18:47 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:18:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Crying/Stu D Arrested Message-ID: <3B320247.C41BFF9B@york.ac.uk> I am worried. I woke up this morning feeling like poo and it's only a few days until the Scarborough gig (and my big economics exam, but thats not as important). Yah boo to glandular fever. I nearly wanted to cry because I think this gig will actually be the most important thing in my whole life and I can't possibly miss it. PEEL I won't talk much, everyone's done it for me. First song - Hip hop, second song, Mama's & Papa's, third song - Gentle Waves, last song Belle And Sebastian! Yey! John Peel certainly enjoyed himself in Barcelona didn't he. I listened with Stuart and Feather Boa in her room and we had to look and watch somebody breaking into our physics department half way through. It was very exciting. At night this university sounds like a motorbike. STU D ARRESTED! We played some records in my college bar last night, and as I was coming back from my girlfriend's afterwards, i saw Stuart David stopped by the police. Stuart now works as a delivery man for Ali's Kitchens, the finest purveyors of pizza based dishes in the whole of York. he drives an old red polo, (the car, not the new sweet) and very fast. i think he must have been going too fast, or they recognised him and wanted his autograph. I hope he is OK SCARBOROUGH TRANSPORT I fear Stuart Gardiners messages need clarrifying. Yes i have organised a bus, but it is only for my friends and is full up, so please don't turn up on the day expecting a seat. ANAGRAMS is Shoot The Sexual Athelete something they got out of one of those anagram machines on the internet? The song titles are a bit weird. Alos in '...technique', Struan actualy sings 'techniques'. Is that like the Lego for big boys that I could never cope with? Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Thu Jun 21 15:43:59 2001 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:43:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Midweek charts. Message-ID: <200106211443.f5LEhxM13787@brookes.ac.uk> B&S are currently only number 20 in the new charts, I know they don't mean much (the charts), but I'd love B&S to go top 10/5 or even number 1. I sent this same post about 3 hours ago, but aint seen it, so thought I'd have another go. Ben x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Jun 21 15:53:38 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:53:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Brian Appleton Message-ID: Oh behave! I'm notoriously wrong about everything, but according to http://www.channelfly.com 'Brian Appleton', the new character from John Shuttleworth's creator Graham Fellows, will support Belle & Sebastian for some of the dates on their forthcoming tour. The character, a 'rock musicologist' who claims to have influenced many of music's defining moments (as well as having his own songs stolen by legendary bands), will guest at the following dates on the Scottish twee-poppers' long-awaited tour. And it looks like most or all of the English tour to me! For the un-UK amongst us, he's a comedian, although some might put that in ironic quotes. For more information on Brian, see: http://www.shuttleworths.co.uk/brian.html Appleton, for instance, reveals that he once contemplated a glamorous rock'n'roll road-crash suicide before realising that he didn't have a car. "I'd have had to borrow me mother's VW Polo," he moans, "and that has quite a good safety record." Him appearing on stage is the kind of thing that might make even my brother giggle, and maybe change his mind that B&S are freaks, and you're all a bunch of internet weirdo nutter geeks with strange and disturbing habits, ticks, and unusually long knives in your kitchen drawers. He likes John Shuttleworth and gave me a CD of him for my Xmas. Not my Xmas, it's our Xmas, they can't take it away from us. God bless baby cheeses. It makes me wonder if the rosy-cheeked Uptown Shufflers aren't popping over the border. Which makes me wonder if we won't hear "I Love My Car" in London! Which makes me shed a little tear. I should add that I heard this on the newsgroup, bless them, rather than an "advisor to the palace", so it might be LIES! In which case cuff my ears and send me off to bed with no soup. Or it will be an "ironic" site which I've failed to understand. It'll be like when surrogate list mummy Linda believed the Guardian's April 1st article about Ann Widdecombe and Eminem being best pals and told everyone so. Or when I said "I didn't know Sting used to be in the police", when someone said he was, and I was thinking constabulary. Wasn't Mr 80s "King" in the police (not the Police)? My excuse. Hello to everyone who was at the Glasgow picnics/concerts/after-show orgy! Belle licked my ear, I shall never wash again. I expect a report from SOMEONE from every one of the English concerts, if you come home from one and wonder if you could be bothered telling us that they all appeared naked on stage and sang the Hallelujah Chorus, or decide to wait and see if anyone else posts, START TYPING! If we don't get a report from one of the gigs, I'm closing the list, and opening a porn site on missprint.org. What do you mean it already looks like one.. I love you I do! Honey xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 16:36:55 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:36:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: won't be denying myself the benefits of being alive Message-ID: i spent a good portion of the day yesterday making a b&s mix tape. it is for a girl and her boy lover who are visitng my freind from out of town. of course when i met them i almost immediatley got a crush on her and of course the boy is very sweet and nice and even wears skirts so i can't even resent him. ah well, all the girls i like have boys. it's difficult t make a mix tape of b&s becasue i don't do very well with making value judgements about which songs should go on there cos they won't all fit, but they're all so swell. i haven't been able to get ahold of the single and all these postings of lyrics to songs played at the peel sessions which i haven't heard are killing me. i'll have to get busy procuring them. yesterday we had a thunderstorm and i stood on the porch and it rained all around me but did not rain directly on me for a long time. i was starting to think i was charmed, but then when i went to go inside i stubbed my toe and proceeded to spill almost all the water in my sink down my cute red dress while i tried to wash my way thorugh dirty dishes mountain before i had people over. oh, and i would just like to say that i am very fond of this this list and am so glad i joined. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Thu Jun 21 16:10:52 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:10:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Brian Appleton Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732241@GB047XS> > I'm notoriously wrong about everything, but according to > http://www.channelfly.com > > 'Brian Appleton', the new character from John Shuttleworth's creator > Graham Fellows, will support Belle & Sebastian for some of the dates > on their forthcoming tour. > > The character, a 'rock musicologist' who claims to have influenced > many of music's defining moments (as well as having his own songs > stolen by legendary bands), will guest at the following dates on the > Scottish twee-poppers' long-awaited tour. It's the Duke!!! Under a new name! Everyone KNOWS Looper nicked his act, never mind his 'tood. I must say I preferred Piezoelectrickery Unit, it's a lot more rock than 'Brian'. However, seemed to work for Brian Mouldko. This sounds all FABULOUS. Look forward to seeing you Duke! I mean, Mr. Appleton, *fnar* yuckyuck. Love, Sarah xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 18:20:41 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Ba. Honbug. Message-ID: <20010621172041.17310.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> they kept me waiting for ages today. Said it would be there mid afternoon. I didn't find out til 4.45pm ish. But I got my uni results. After lots of worrying, and waiting, I got my degree. Now I am officially a Ba Hons berry. Joint honours. Yay me.. Speechless, but still happy. And not a high drop from a tall building in sight. Any suggestions what I do with the rest of my life? I'm a little confused as to what to do next. ;) Laters idles (officially supposedly a grown up now) ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 19:07:08 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:07:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i need a ruler coz i'm outtaline Message-ID: Hello everyone! Well, it is my second day back in the states after my trip to lovely UK. I went to the Dunfermline show and met some sinisters, and overheard a few more. Hello to all those I met. Scotland was beautiful, and chilly. I also had my first taste of alcohol in several years when I was there. I also went to a Super Furrys concert in Manchester. It was chock full of Manics fans. It was a good show, although a bit crowded. I brought my father to that one, which was interesting. I don't think he cared for it too much, but some Welsh guy gave him some weed, which my father promptly rolled and smoked, so I think he enjoyed himself at least a little bit. I went to Camden Town in London to get Johnathan David, which I enjoy quite a bit. I think I have to agree that the newer stuff doesn't speak to me as much, but I still love it. If anyone is ever in Mobile, Alabama, and sees a boy dancing like an idiot in his car, it's probably me jammin to "too much love" or something. I'm suchadork. I saw Tomb Raider last night: sucked. I also missed the Peel Sessions, but hopefully I'll hear them via .mp3, legal or not. Somebody mentioned the rapper in Clint Eastwood sounds like the rapper in Deltron 3030. I'm sure you've been told by now that they are both Del the Funkee Homosapien. Why is the new Sparklehorse not available in US yet? We may have had JD a week earlier than the UK, but at least you have Sparklehorse. I also bought the new Mum. Is this the band that was supposedly on the cover of FYHCYWLAP? I seem to remember something about it. I just had a strange incident with a roach. I will go no further, but it was interesting. Okay, I'm done. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shedgehog at xxx.com Thu Jun 21 21:40:09 2001 From: shedgehog at xxx.com (Sarahs socks) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:40:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: But I like sniffing pencil crayons mummy Message-ID: I was drawing a big poster about wildlife resource management today, as a revision aid. It was quite fun. I drew lots of pictures of trees, mountains, rivers and peat bogs (and of course wrote lots about managing wildlife), with pencil crayons. The smell of them reminded me of being 11, when I used to dream of horses and draw lots of them. I went through some of my dads old records while I was beevering away. Came across a Ralph McTell Album. Some of you may remember Ralph fondly from his time on Alphabet zoo and tickle on the tum, in the days when folky blokeys on kids T.V where more popular than ant and dec. Anyways, this was an album from 1976 and was recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall. It was also signed 'to sarah' by the man himself, so I guess its my record and not my dads after all! I watched a program about the moon the other night. conspiracy theories suggesting that the NASSA didn't manage to get a soul up there. It made me go back and listen to loopers 'Dave the Moon Man' which is about a guy called dave who wants people to prove the conspiracy theories wrong, so he can believe that anything is possible. Honey said: "'Brian Appleton', the new character from John Shuttleworth's creator Graham Fellows, will support Belle & Sebastian for some of the dates on their forthcoming tour." Jilted John by Jilted John (another of grahams characters) has to be one of my favorite songs. Its just got that puerile childish charm to it. I will be much looking forward to seeing him in Brum. Matthew Henderson said: "I just had a strange incident with a roach. I will go no further, but it was interesting." How can you do that! You nasty nasty man. You're teasing us with your tantalizing trivia. Go on, be a sport tell us. you can't say something interesting happened and then not tell us. If you don't then I will blow raspberry's at you until you do. Love and hedgehugs Sarahsocks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Jun 22 03:48:46 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:48:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: the life that tree's lead when not disturbed Message-ID: <83.c0272b9.28640c0e@aol.com> Hello Listees I'm quite excited at the minute as I'm going to Birmingham very soon, not to see B&S just Birmingham Though as luck would have it they are playing at the same time as I'm there and I do have a ticket so I suppose I should make use of it. Actually it's nothing like that at all. all this excitement running about inside me about the gig and the picnic the day before has me rather happy and I may be able to put some names to faces. Than Q Chris Jones for all the encouragement with the RAH ticket, sadly I was outbid. But thank's all the same. ***&^£$%*%^"£$^&*)!!&$%($^ I had a dream a few weeks ago and it was about being in a supporting band for a band called "Bastian R". (for reasons unknown to me it's only just managed to become a memory even if I had it a while back) It was rather broken up during my sleep but the main part involved us (support band) on stage at Glastonbury telling the crowd that we'd be off in a minute or two. This is not a particularly usefull piece of info except I wondered if perhaps the name of the band was a splinter of proper information that had kind of fallen off the main useful bit and ended up in a dream somehow. My diagnosis goes a bit like this.... A bit of proper thought (concerning Belle & Sebastian) has a bump whilst zooming round my head and a chunk of it falls off and down a drain into my imagination where upon it is rolled together with other such unfortunate scraps and madeinto a DREAM. (very eco friendly) The end product being.... Belle & Se"Bastian R" Sorry if I've scared anyone with this sort of in depth mind analysis but I feel it nessesary as Linda told me (rather sternly it seemed) that I did'nt contain enough B&S stuff in my mails and I can see her point I suppose, sorry . I have finally managed to off load my Brum gig ticket upon a very polite young lady by the name of Claire (what ever you do don't try and get rid of it Claire as once you adopt it it stick's like shit to sheep) . Don't believe me? Just take a look at the rear of a sheep (without getting arrested) and note one of mother nature's design faults Can you mail me Claire as to how you want to get hold of your ticket. Thanx. ASDA'S MAPLE SYRUP CREAMS Be very careful of these as they have the sames effect as those big bags of JELLY BABIES, In that you are happiely scoffing away till you're about a third of the way through the pack *the point of no retern* I'm feeling a bit sick but just can't leave them alone and soon the whole bag's gone and I feel very silly for being taken advantage of by a pack of biscuits, So. Quick reminder = Don't forget about Leicester picnic on the 1st of July We're meeeting near the big arch/memorial in Victoria park at 2pm. If you've read this far then you're an absolute star. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tp218 at xxx.uk Fri Jun 22 03:14:00 2001 From: tp218 at xxx.uk (all tom's parties) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:14:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it's not like we'll be parted Message-ID: ah well its that time, you see? one stage of my life ending, a new beginning, all the joys and terrors of the world awaiting me*, and what am i doing? unsubscribing from every email list i can remember signing up to, 'cos my email address ceases to exist in a few days and i don't want to annoy anybody ('specially honey). i'll join up again, of course, but i dunno when i'll next have email access. i'm not sure if they have that kind of thing in hackney, which is where i think i'll be living (unless the nice lady with the outrageously cheap flat in camden gets back to me, whcih i have a sinking feeling she won't). hey ho. so i'd like to say a temporary goodbye to all the friends i've made on the list (technically none, but i like to think of you all as my friends; nay, my lovers. possibly. hmmm.), and threaten to hunt down the families of all my enemies on the list (also none). shame i won't be able to send a gushing email describing just how amazing the scarborough gig was, but somehow i suspect you won't be short of those, so no real loss... so, i'll see you on the beach. (look for two small boys with floppy hair looking twee. that'll be us. should stand out from the crowd, with all their leather coats and linkin park t-shirts. rough crowd in scarborough, i've heard.) somebody bring a football. you'll notice that my last post has been, of course, as utterly inconsequential as all the others i've written. i am nothing if not consistent. keep being pretty, love, tomatron *i'm graduating, in other words.** **are footnotes in emails a good idea? probably not, i'm guessing, but the world's not perfect, so why should i be? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n.barr at xxx.uk Fri Jun 22 10:23:06 2001 From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:23:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura gigs and single Message-ID: <3B331C8A.10305.510669@localhost> Hi, Sorry about the rather short notice.. Three Camera Obscura gigs - Fri. 22nd (tonight) - Westpoint Bar, Dundee. Sat 23rd - Hyndland Church Hall, Novar Drive, Glasgow. Sat 30th - Strange Fruit @ The Spitz, London. According to the publicity postcard, tickets can be got from Glasgow Missing, Virgin on Buchanan St or on the door. They also have a single, 'Eighties Fan', coming out on Monday. I heard it on Monday, and it sounded very good and very B&S-ish. Niall. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_fear66 at xxx.com Fri Jun 22 13:30:32 2001 From: the_fear66 at xxx.com (Matt Powell) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:30:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura gigs and single References: <3B331C8A.10305.510669@localhost> Message-ID: > They also have a single, 'Eighties Fan', coming out on > Monday. I heard it on Monday, and it sounded very good > and very B&S-ish. and stuart murdoch produced it you know.... anyone who needs any more info on these gigs just drop me a line. Ta. Matt.x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n.barr at xxx.uk Fri Jun 22 14:40:59 2001 From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:40:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Camera Obscura Message-ID: <3B3358FB.12308.13D28FE@localhost> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: "Daniela Schulze" To: Subject: Camera Obscura Date sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:35:56 +0100 Camera Obscura will set off today to play the first gig on their mini-tour to promote the new single "Eighties Fan" which will hit the shops on Monday (25 June). You might have heard the song played on the radio recently: Steve Lamarq, Sessions in Scotland and Wales, Radio Scotland, XFM and Beat 106 have been giving the song, which was produced by Stuart Murdoch, some airplay. Tonight they will play the West Port Bar in Dundee (phone 01382 200 993), and tomorrow they will be back on homeground in Glasgow where they played their very first gig in Hyndland Church Hall. Previous musicians who played in this fantastic venue were Sodastream, Astrid and Stevie Jackson. Door open at 8pm, and you pay £4 on the door. (Tickets can also be bought in advance from Missing or Virgin.) And next week Camera Obscura hope to lure you into the London Spitz at the Old Spitalfields Market. The event is brought to you by Strange Fruit and tickets are £5 on the door. You can reserve tickets by phoning the Spitz (020 7392 9032). Hope to see you there! ------- End of forwarded message ------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Fri Jun 22 20:27:53 2001 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:27:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Brian Appleton In-Reply-To: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732241@GB047XS> Message-ID: <000101c0fb51$708b1620$9fcdfea9@tangents1> Sarah has it all sussed, as ever... well at least in her imagination which of course is all that counts. Naturally I'll be doing requests in my support slot, so calls for that one about Denise From Doncaster and the one about Gordon (of the moronic variety, not the gopher family...) gleefully accepted. It's a post-modern review type thing where all previous characters are filtered and cross-referenced. Much like a great big database. But more fun. Of course. Nice to see that someone also remembers the FACTS about Pop History with respect to Looper and such like. Thankfully mr Looper has not stolen anything from me recently, particularly with respect to his literary adventures. I mean... that Peacock thing. It wasn't very good was it? The Duchess got through about ten pages and tossed it aside with a bemused guffaw/grimace. She judged it, if not 'unreadable' then 'unfinishable'. Which amounts to the same thing really. The Duchess has only ever judged a handful of books thus in her life... and she reads tons of them. Lots more than I do. At the moment I am I the process of re-reading the first five of the Lemony Snicket 'A Series of Unfortunate Events' in eager anticipation of the sixth and seventh dropping through my door any day now. Some readers will recognise Mr Snicket as the friend of the very wonderful Mr Daniel Handler, who wrote two terrific grown up books and who plays accordion with that awfully grumpy and beautiful looking Mr Stephin Merritt and his Magnetic Fields. Um... Speaking of poets and such like, does anyone remember that drunk Glasgow Central Station drunk that B&S let wander onto the stage of the Union Chapel show way back in the day? Am I totally wrong in assuming it was Jock Scot? I only ask because I remember him telling some story about Davey Henderson (which had several of us up in the balcony swapping bemused glances - us being the Fire Engines appreciation society...) and then I recently heard his thing on the Bent Boutique compilation where he performs with the Nectarine no9 which of course is the self same Mr Davey Henderson. Apologies if this has been dealt with back in the murky mists of time that honey calls the archives. Nice to see Struan paying his respects to the Go-Betweens. Not that I've heard it of course... but the IDEA sounds marvellous. Maybe its best if I don't hear it. I wonder if anyone will write a similar respectful ditty to the Chills? I only wonder because I've been playing their Secret Box triple CD to death recently and remembering how truly wonderful they were/are. Hmmmm. Speaking of the antipodes, can I just say two words? Augie March. There, I've said it. Those of you lucky enough to live in Edinburgh can catch them on their first UK sojourn on 6 -10 august where they will apparently be playing the spiegeltent. Be there or be somewhere else much less sonically delightful. Londoners can look forward to some dates a week later. Hopefully... can anyone offer them a 'gig'? Who runs track and field these days anyway? That name again: Augie March. Have I droned on for long enough? Have I had my fifteen minutes of irrelevance? Cliff Richard? He loves a bit of it... irrelevance, I mean. And drones. Big drones fan is Cliff. Little known fact that... go listen to 'wired for sound' again. You'll see what I mean. Nice to be back, by the way, even if I feel like I've wandered into my old local boozer after two years in the hinterland only to find a whole clutch of marvellously attractive and confident 'youngsters' propping up the bar, drinking funny coctails and, shock horror, sitting in my favoured comfy chair by the fireplace. Mine's a pint of Guinness, since you're asking. Keep that dream burning baby, forever.... The duke. > 'Brian Appleton', the new character from John Shuttleworth's creator > Graham Fellows, will support Belle & Sebastian for some of the dates > on their forthcoming tour. It's the Duke!!! Under a new name! Everyone KNOWS Looper nicked his act, never mind his 'tood. I must say I preferred Piezoelectrickery Unit, it's a lot more rock than 'Brian'. However, seemed to work for Brian Mouldko. This sounds all FABULOUS. Look forward to seeing you Duke! I mean, Mr. Appleton, *fnar* yuckyuck. Love, Sarah xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Fri Jun 22 20:27:53 2001 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:27:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Brian Appleton In-Reply-To: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732241@GB047XS> Message-ID: <000101c0fb51$708b1620$9fcdfea9@tangents1> Sarah has it all sussed, as ever... well at least in her imagination which of course is all that counts. Naturally I'll be doing requests in my support slot, so calls for that one about Denise From Doncaster and the one about Gordon (of the moronic variety, not the gopher family...) gleefully accepted. It's a post-modern review type thing where all previous characters are filtered and cross-referenced. Much like a great big database. But more fun. Of course. Nice to see that someone also remembers the FACTS about Pop History with respect to Looper and such like. Thankfully mr Looper has not stolen anything from me recently, particularly with respect to his literary adventures. I mean... that Peacock thing. It wasn't very good was it? The Duchess got through about ten pages and tossed it aside with a bemused guffaw/grimace. She judged it, if not 'unreadable' then 'unfinishable'. Which amounts to the same thing really. The Duchess has only ever judged a handful of books thus in her life... and she reads tons of them. Lots more than I do. At the moment I am I the process of re-reading the first five of the Lemony Snicket 'A Series of Unfortunate Events' in eager anticipation of the sixth and seventh dropping through my door any day now. Some readers will recognise Mr Snicket as the friend of the very wonderful Mr Daniel Handler, who wrote two terrific grown up books and who plays accordion with that awfully grumpy and beautiful looking Mr Stephin Merritt and his Magnetic Fields. Um... Speaking of poets and such like, does anyone remember that drunk Glasgow Central Station drunk that B&S let wander onto the stage of the Union Chapel show way back in the day? Am I totally wrong in assuming it was Jock Scot? I only ask because I remember him telling some story about Davey Henderson (which had several of us up in the balcony swapping bemused glances - us being the Fire Engines appreciation society...) and then I recently heard his thing on the Bent Boutique compilation where he performs with the Nectarine no9 which of course is the self same Mr Davey Henderson. Apologies if this has been dealt with back in the murky mists of time that honey calls the archives. Nice to see Struan paying his respects to the Go-Betweens. Not that I've heard it of course... but the IDEA sounds marvellous. Maybe its best if I don't hear it. I wonder if anyone will write a similar respectful ditty to the Chills? I only wonder because I've been playing their Secret Box triple CD to death recently and remembering how truly wonderful they were/are. Hmmmm. Speaking of the antipodes, can I just say two words? Augie March. There, I've said it. Those of you lucky enough to live in Edinburgh can catch them on their first UK sojourn on 6 -10 august where they will apparently be playing the spiegeltent. Be there or be somewhere else much less sonically delightful. Londoners can look forward to some dates a week later. Hopefully... can anyone offer them a 'gig'? Who runs track and field these days anyway? That name again: Augie March. Have I droned on for long enough? Have I had my fifteen minutes of irrelevance? Cliff Richard? He loves a bit of it... irrelevance, I mean. And drones. Big drones fan is Cliff. Little known fact that... go listen to 'wired for sound' again. You'll see what I mean. Nice to be back, by the way, even if I feel like I've wandered into my old local boozer after two years in the hinterland only to find a whole clutch of marvellously attractive and confident 'youngsters' propping up the bar, drinking funny coctails and, shock horror, sitting in my favoured comfy chair by the fireplace. Mine's a pint of Guinness, since you're asking. Keep that dream burning baby, forever.... The duke. > 'Brian Appleton', the new character from John Shuttleworth's creator > Graham Fellows, will support Belle & Sebastian for some of the dates > on their forthcoming tour. It's the Duke!!! Under a new name! Everyone KNOWS Looper nicked his act, never mind his 'tood. I must say I preferred Piezoelectrickery Unit, it's a lot more rock than 'Brian'. However, seemed to work for Brian Mouldko. This sounds all FABULOUS. Look forward to seeing you Duke! I mean, Mr. Appleton, *fnar* yuckyuck. Love, Sarah xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Jun 22 20:33:42 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Jonathan Dimbleby / David Dimbleby Message-ID: <20010622193342.4660.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> Jim Taylor popped his head above the parapet, which reminded me that he was one of the first people to greet me in Glasgow. So once again, Jim - hello. Anyone would think that David Moore didn't have 3 jobs to go to. Peter Miller laid into the new 45. I was glad to see that. He's right about the guitar solo if nothing else. And maybe other things too. In Glasgow we heard stories about him. Has anyone read The Great Gatsby lately? Tony Tanner's Penguin intro is a marvel. Golly, there are some great lines in that novel. The cabs in the 40s on the way to the theates; the streets of men, women and machines; the valley of ashes seeking what Tanner calls 'negative transcendence'; Gatsby and the green light across the bay; the moment that Carraway tells him, you're better than the lot of them put together; the stunning finale, on the edge of a mysterious, new, old, modern, sad land, in the spray of time and the sea. It makes me wonder why my editor doesn't like Fitzgerald more than (I think) he does. Talk about the understanding of artifice (let alone the artifice of understanding). Going to see B&S in the flesh reminded me of the silly theme that comes up now and again, re. Isobel's rear end. It reminded me to write to sinister and say: it is terribly obvious that people who go on about it the way they do - in what is meant to look like a daring and satirical way - are really just beating the bishop while sitting at the keyboard. I am quite convinced of this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Fri Jun 22 22:52:59 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 05:52:59 +0800 Subject: Sinister: united states of calamity Message-ID: <20010622215300.19131.qmail@juno.com> hey yall, I'm out of the nursery & here's a brief intro: My name is amy. I'm living in Grand Rapids,MI (about two hrs from Chicago and 1/5 hr from the beach). I'm originally from Atlanta, but ended up here for a job. Anyhow, I feel like I've been living under a rock b/c I just got into B & S after hearing it in an used bookstore several months ago. Thinking back, I really could have used IYFS when it first came out, but I'm totally enjoying it (and all the others) now. Obviously, I'm envious of everyone going to the concerts. And all I have to say is that its time we Americans got our acts together (i.e. picnics, etc) to encourage B & S to tour over here. I'm even willing to try and learn a scottish accent to make them feel at home. :) I like the JD cd quite a bit. Although I think Peter Miller's right about the guitar in L of MDR - it should be more shattering, but otherwise no complaints. I try and fiddle with my stereo to make it as loud as possible, but it doesn't really work. I've been planning to get a tatoo for awhile. And I convinced myself to begin with something smaller than my original ideas. So next week I'll be getting "a star upon her shoulder." Just curious - does anyone else have one? Any recommendations as to actual look of the star are appreciated, I'm in the process of designing it right now. so thanks for letting me into sinister, i'm feeling a bit like a mayfly this week -amy alaine -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat Jun 23 10:40:04 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:40:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: She's got a ticket to RAH, and she don't care. Message-ID: Well actually she hasn't and she does. I have, but I still do of course. My non-sinister friend didn't mention this till yesterday, and I know its a very long shot, but if anyone is trying to off-load a RAH ticket please give me a yell. My mobile's 07946 622 678, and no krank calls! And speaking of tickets I've got one going spare for The Strokes/Moldy Peaches/MHS in Sheffield tonight if anyone's interested? I know it's short notice. (Same number). Right enough list abuse, I do have some genuine content... Did nobody else see the JD review in last week's Guardian Guide? (Not today's) they gave it a real slagging. Not my favourite tune either, but it didn't deserve that! On the Peel Session the day after the B&S one he said they were going to repeat the B&S session soon, and details will be put on the web, good news for all those like me who missed it. I just noticed yesterday that one of the consultants at work is called David Jonathan. That made me chuckle to myself from my cupboard and the others were scared for they knew not why I chuckleth. I've seen a lot of foxes lately. Mostly coming home late at night. Did anyone else hear about the family of foxes they've found living under one of the platforms at Paddington? And PF used the phrase "put his head over the parapet" which is how I opened one of my recent posts... I'm quite in awe of PF's posts, so for him to use the same phrase as me was an honour, though I'm sure he arrived at it quite independently. PF also mentioned James Joyce (I think). I think Joyce might have originated the 'ink polaroid' - he's even done one about getting the supplies in for a sinister picnic: "She got out of her tram and feretted her way quickly among the crowds. She went in to Downes's cake shop but the shop was so full of people that it was a long time before she could get herself attended to. She bought a dozen of mixed penny cakes, and at last came out of the shop laden with a big bag. Then she thought what else would she buy: she wanted to buy something really nice. They were sure to have plenty of apples and nuts. It was hard to know what to buy and all she could think of was cake. She decided to buy some plum cake, but Downes's plum cake had not enough almond icing on top of it, so she went over to a shop in Henry Street. Here she was a long time in suiting herself, and the stylish young lady behid the counter, who was evidently a little annoyed by her, asked her was it a wedding cake she wanted to buy. That made Maria blush and smile at the young lady; but the young lady took it all very seriously and finally cut a thick slice of plumcake, parcelled it up and said: "Two and four, please." Ahh. Hugs'n'Stuff PeetSketchSteve xXx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Sat Jun 23 12:05:09 2001 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (Something sinister) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:05:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hey Freaklips Message-ID: sinister i lost something at the weekend but i found it again i started writing this in an internet caf� in glasgow ive never been in one of them before it was a bit scary. and awfully orange. but i didnt send this from there. no no. just felt the need to write from it. well i most definetly went by the 15 minute rule for this post- i have been writing it since monday! its the 21st of june when did that happen? there was a programme in the uk play channel yesterday on called 'state of independants' and it had about jeepster on it our house and home has been sold we need to be out by the 7th of september 19 days before my 18th :( and to be perfectly honest, and even though i hate talking about it, its killing me. i think im the only person on the list who hasnt bought jonathan david yet i could have. but i went into avalanche and they had the cooper temple clause ltd ed boxed 7" warfare ep so i bought that instead. all this talk of london and i have not a penny to my name left in the world well, maybe a few pennies, but only coppers and the occassional 5p and maybe even a 10p or two heard i monster-daydream in blue? you should its BRILLIANT, i love it i am very proud to be a 'sick fucked in the head psycho fan' by now you are probably thinking, if youve got this far of course, that i am not going to talk about glasgow i keep having strange dreams. at the weekend i had a sinister dream. started off in a bus, but the bit we were in wasnt like bus- it was more like a room, and everyone(ok maybe not *everyone*) was there on the bus and it kept stopping so gav could go in and get more booze. then everyone was out in this pool, with a bridge over it and they were all demons. and they had horns and stuff. and there was one in particular that i noticed, he was big and looked a bit like the demon/devil guy in legend-with the big horns and stuff, except he was grey/black and not red. and i dont think his face was so weird either. but they had to change back to their person form coz a normal person was coming along i seem to be suffering from lack of enthusiasm for anything its a bit depressing really i cant even muster up enough energy to be even a wee bit excited about jonathan david to the extent that i am not even bothered at all that i dont have it which is sad i remember when legal man came out and i got so excited and i had no money so my snowflake bought me it, and i hugged her to death almost and i danced and bounced all over falkirk like a mad looney nutcase u know that mockingbird song that people sing to their kids? that disturbs me that does i think its an evil dead thing wasnt belles post brilliant? i had you fooled didnt i? u thought i had forgot what i said and i wasnt going to even hint on mentioning glasgow again but guess what i am anyways yeah so glasgow this weekend. 4 days in glasgow. blah. blah is how i feel. thats not bad. its more just a bit non descript. and thats just absolutely spot on. right. started in the pub, finished in the pub. as so many good weekends do. but this one had in betweeny bits that involved meeting lots of new and wonderful and grate and super and lovely people. even though i wasnt exectly the most sociable of kids at the picnic. i was just. blah. nervous and stuff. probably. yeah. so for people i didnt talk to. im really sorry, i did want to. huge big hugs to every last one of you, even and especially the ones i didnt talk to and i saw my first ever sinister football game it was funny :) and i got added to Jenowls list of people to kill ;) but the gigs, were...eh....um...yeah. great. probably. youll be glad to know that i am not going to reveiw the gigs due to missing quite a bit of both spending much of friday in the bar and much of saturday flaked out on a seat at the first aid bit due to being ever so slightly completely exhausted but i was not actually asleep/unconscious, so i did at least hear the entire set but do you know what? thats all ok, coz i had such a grate time anyway and i was at dunfermline too, and i didnt miss any of that and there so much else but i will finish here and thats all i have to say except- i think i snogged the most people at the weekend ;p "cleanse yourself and bleed for free, retrograde your honesty, give me life or so you said, life means nothing when your dead!" unlike a lifeform youve ever met sweetie xox ICQ #42242252 MSN instant msngr: something_sinister at hotmail.com AOLim id: IIIsecondcreep *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Part of a multipack- Not to be sold seperately. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Jun 24 03:12:45 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 04:12:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: who wants a t-shirt that says "czech me out?" Message-ID: <1AB268D4CD765D1168C50005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i have decided that if i could stay in prague forever, i just might be happy. we took the night train from budapest the two nights ago and arrived here in the morning, just in time to snag two beds at the clown and bard. last night all these kids were having a good time playing the piano and singing and drinking absinthe, and then i came along and played a few sad songs and nobody knew the words and everyone was angry, so i think they all hate me now. maybe i should learn some more pop hits. i am not sure where i am right now...i just saw a sign that said "internet," and now i think i might be in someone's house. it is better than easy everything, though. boys boys boys...we spent four rainy nights in a tent in munich, and a boy from england keeps sending me emails. he says he likes my nose, which is nice of him. last night another boy told aimee that she has beautiful ears, so i think if we take my nose and aimee's ears, we should be able to make a nice-looking head...if anyone is willing to donate two eyes and a pouty pair of lips. mr. potato head is brilliant. i am having a difficult time accepting the fact that i am going home in six days. back to the milwaukee bus system and the fourth of july... there is nothing scarier in the world than being on a train rolling through slovakia in the middle of the night and having armed guards bang on your door, looking to confiscate your hungarian cigarettes. we are going to the park now. love kirsten "cigarettes! alcohol!" 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat Jun 23 18:56:04 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Pop Books Up Message-ID: <20010623175604.17178.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> A book that is quite bad is BACHELOR KISSES. The thing is, you see the book and think - oh, that must be a well-known phrase, then. But then you read the book and the narrator talks about listening to the Go-Betweens; and the author is from Brisbane. And you think - oh. The relative badness of the book does not affect the excellence of the record, of course. I wanted to buy the book for the Cookie, to encourage him to read. A bit like Actor Ross Kemp doing his bit for literacy. But the book was only available as part of a set of other bad books. Sorry, Cookie. This reminds me: does the B&S Go-Betweens song really exist, or did someone make it up to get Cookie all excited? A book that is quite good is Paul Muldoon's POEMS 1968-1998. The reason it is quite good is to be found on pp. 370 and 414. On p.370 we find the lines "she was now deeply into Lloyd Cole [...] Lloyd 'King' Cole, she'd dubbed him...". And on p.414, amidst a series of references to pop music, we find a reference to LLOYD COLE AND THE COMMOTIONS: EASY PIECES. My editor doesn't care for Muldoon. I daresay that that's understandable. But we can forgive him something, I think, for these Lloyd Cole references. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trishdelish at xxx.com Sat Jun 23 14:49:34 2001 From: trishdelish at xxx.com (Trish Brazil) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:49:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: HELP! cant get JonathanDavid in Ireland Message-ID: i mean, as if to add insult to injury! after 1999's guitar-smashing epic at the olypmia, its not enough that B&S seem to have decided that they wont be returning to this fair isle, but now we cant even get the new bloody singe - what is the story?!!! my poor shoes, downtrodden as they are, bravely tramped all around town with me yesterday on our futile search.....turned away at every door, well you know, there are other quite important things i could do with that fiver y'know (though in the event, just bought ice cream and sat in the park) seriously, every record shop says it's a distribution problem with sony ireland, is anyone out there involved with the band even aware of this? do they care?! anxiously awaiting answers trish delish _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Sun Jun 24 02:04:46 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 04:04:46 +0300 Subject: Sinister: postcards from the beach Message-ID: <002301c0fc49$a9d38e00$0bfacdd4@q2x8k0> the beach is imaginary -today; but tomorrow it may be real... you have belle and sebastian concerts but i have the sea! i was meaning to write a post about the meaning of life and being happy... but i feel very sad... summer isn't nice when you have to spend it nearly alone... and it's worse when this happens for the third time... i'm tired of doing things on my own... i've done everything i could: i've been reading and writing and listening to music almost ceaselessly since i was fifteen! i'm twenty and i need people! there has been some talk lately, on whether belle and sebastian are any good any more... you know it has to do with getting older, or rather with the intensity of the first time - not that much with the actual quality of the songs... i was introduced to belle and sebastian with tbwtas, then i was given the four eps, then iyfs, and a few months later tigermilk came out on cd so i got that too. and i didn't like it as much! and my (ex)boyfriend first heard of them last June and fyhcywlap is his favourite! although iyfs is so innocent, erm, so twee - well it's like it has fallen from the sky, like it has nothing to do with this world and thus probably nothing can ever sound better... you know what i mean... don't you? that must be the meaning of life... think about it... when we were little our impressions and feelings were stronger, we felt more alive - because the world was new... or rather we were new to the world... i long to return in that state of innocence and bliss... and strangely enough my two best friend also long for that - strangely, because these days we don't seem to have much else in common... we should just find a way to feel excited most of the time, like when we were wee... stop thinking of ourselves and stop worrying... and start being involved in what's happening around us... maybe we will manage this on the beach... if we ever stop fighting and get there! wishing tehn we'll remember how much we love each other... love,and keep the faith, Dimitra ps " We should love a band that writes a song about the go-betweens!" not because i'm that big a go-between fun but because it sounds great.and powerful! ps if i could be a song i would be something that would snake ito your room and be with you the whole night long +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sun Jun 24 05:21:29 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:21:29 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura Message-ID: <001801c0fc65$2a7e7180$a96137d2@computer> sorry for this rather short and self centred post. I haven't been able to find a copy of the Camera Obscura "80's Fan" single on any of the online places I usually shop at. I was wondering if there was anyone who could either a) tell me somewhere where I could order it securely online. b) would like to actually buy the CD single for me, and post it to me, in exchange for either cold hard UK cash, or something in trade, or .... err .... my love. looking forward the hundreds of -mails that will no doubt come streaming into my inbox with *that* offer :) cheers, Lawrence Mikkelsen (geographically isolated by still trying hard to be cred ....) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Sun Jun 24 09:49:52 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:49:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: preston picnic Message-ID: hey guys, well mike and myself are trundling off to preston for the B&S gig this week. Anyone else going who fancies meeting up for a pre-gig pint? Mail off list, yeah? Sorry for the e-silence of late. We've moved house, which is apparently one of the most traumatic things that happen in life. You'd think after 18 moves (including the disasterous Hucknell incident)I'd be an expert! Ah well, it'd be easy were it not for the solicitors, estate agents, gas/water/elecrtic/phone company, the council, the dodgy plumbing and the rotten wall! wishing for a proper bed (not just a mattress on the floor) jules _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Jun 25 10:53:00 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:53:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: living the dream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello, I should introduce myself. My name is Ian and I live in Dublin. Some of you may have read a mail from Rener last week. I am her man-bitch. I went to Scotland to see B&S last weekend (which already seems like an eternity ago), catching the gigs in Aberdeen and the second night in Glasgow. They were a lot of fun, and compared very favourably with the last time I'd seen them. This was in Dublin's Olympia, where the sound was rubbish and the band gave the impression of being completely unrehearsed. That was the gig where Stuart Murdoch got so sulky he smashed his acoustic guitar. And then apologised. This time round it was nice to see that B&S can actually do the business live, and seem to enjoy doing it too. I went to the picnic in Kelvingrove last Saturday, but because I'm *shy* I didn't talk to too many people. and the people I did talk to, I meant to ask them for their e-mail addresses, but I was too *shy* even for that. So George & Rich from DC, Katrina from Halifax, and Marianna from Perth/Londo, mail me offlist if you read this and want to be my special e-mail friends. Thanks to whoever brought the donuts for offering around before I scarfed into them, and to Katrina for the Reeces Peanut Butter Cups or whatever they were. And I was fascinated by the conversation about how a "friend" of a listee used to make seagulls explode by feeding them bread soaked in bicarbonate of soda. I must try that sometime. Trish Brazil was looking for 'Jonathan David' in Dublin, as was I. I eventually found it in Virgin, which surprised me, given that they normally don't have anything by anyone. 'JD' itself is great, a complete romper stomper, and while 'Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner' is not quite as good as other versions I have heard, it still does the job. But 'Take Your Carriage Clock...', what's that all about? Ripping off bad songs like 'I've never been to me' is neither big nor clever. It's interesting the Pinefox should mention "the Great Gatsby", as I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I haven't read it in years, but bits and bobs of it stick in my mind. The eyes of TJ Eckleburg in particular. Anyway, I'm off now. Death to false metal! DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.com Sun Jun 24 12:25:24 2001 From: eculb at xxx.com (James Ng) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: One spare RAH ticket Message-ID: Hello, I have got one spare RAH ticket (stalls) going as my friend cannot make it. If anyones interested please reply to me privately. Cheers, James _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sun Jun 24 20:18:43 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:18:43 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Goodness. I pop out for the weekend and when I come home I have a mountain of email waiting for me. So I thought I should say thank you. Thank you. I have enjoyed hearing the gossip from assorted gigs and picnics and footie matches and such. And I wasn't even very jealous. My envy attack only lasted a few minutes, while I cursed my parents for not making a fortune as gold prospecters and making me a glamourous heiress who could be a part of the international jetset and swan around parks in Scotland with her Louis Vuitton luggage and Jackie O sunglasses. And if I was a glam heiress I'd have used my vanity case and hat box as goal posts and not have cared when they got muddy as I would just buy some more. Wouldn't that be grand? I also liked the reports of gigs as it makes me even more excited about what's in store for me when I get to Birmingham next week. By the way, does anyone actually like Birmingham? It seems to get terribly bad press and everyone hates it. Is it worse or better than Wolverhampton? Another thing I've been wondering about: as there is no pre-gig gathering in Birmingham (as far as I'm aware), how will sinisterians recognise each other? Will we look more twee than all the other people there? Will we all have ribena fangs round our mouths and be leaping up and down from excessive red bull consumption? This weekend I went to a RAWK club in town for someone's birthday. It was very funny and somewhat surreal. Some noisy nu-metal nonsense fades and on comes... Respect by Aretha. The dance floor is filled by the out-of-place people who have also been dragged out for someone's birthday. Then Wheatus comes on and the out-of-place people scuttle off again to the corner. Other dance floor stormers included A Town Called Malice, Don't Stop Till You Get Enough and some old crooner from a car advert, to which the loved one and I slow danced. I went to the mortgage place the other day and signed lots of bits of paper that will soon make me a home owner, which is, frankly, just ridiculous. I'm far too young for all that nonsense, but I am very much looking forward to living in a house that has stairs and everything, unlike the council flat I'm in at the moment. Real stairs, real coal fire and real gnomes in the yard and maybe even a real doorbell. Someone (i'm sorry but I can't remember who) said that they were very glad to join the list and I would like to echo that sentiment. It's nice here and I'm really rather fond of it. I will also echo James: Don't forget the Leicester picnic on Sunday July 1 at 2 pm. I know there are things going on in London that weekend, but if you can't go there, come here. There are many many pubs near the park. Listening to Billie Holliday and enjoying the sunshine, Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Jun 24 22:18:49 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:18:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cirrus Message-ID: <3B365939.C71EF934@netscapeonline.co.uk> I bought all the EP's. Now I know what *being a rebel's fine* refers to. Lazy Line Painter Jane is the best I've ever heard. A man writes in the (formerly the Manchester)Guardian newspaper that Stuart Murdoch's original constituency are now served anti-depressant medication and opportunities in the teaching profession. Although the band, in the reviewer's opinion (and mine) are going from 'strength to strength' their fan-base is now a 'core audience of passionate devotees, misfits of too delicate a constitution to even stomach Pulp.' Whilst the review isn't exactly a hagiography I do detect some sympathy there. And whilst Pulp are a band I've yet to listen to I did go see James Macmillan's *Ines de Castro* at the opera. Although there was a torture scene followed by what can best be described as Francis Bacon's Screaming Pope brought to life and volumetrically encompassing singing that nearly reduced me to tears of horror. But we go there, mister reviewer. I think the EP's are the keys to this list: all the references I never got before. The monologue 'A Century of Elvis' is a bit like one of the Peel session tracks where the Go-betweens are name-checked. I taped peely but my recorder seems to have an internal respect of copyright law and whilst I pushed all the buttons and the magnetic tape rolled nothing was recorded. Thanks Richard for the name of a whistling novelty artiste, which I now have in my wallet and shall find, one way or another. I visited a Scottish castle this afternoon: grand doorway in a tower. There used to be avenues stretching towards the four corners; rose be-decked parterres assembled towards the distant winding silver river Forth. No more, but there remains a grand stair leading to jigsaw volumes and a painting on the first level reminds one of one's location. It is resolved on the roof: a panorama of treetops close; factories; powerstations semi and silvery waters and hills and mountains variously distant. There is a bird's nest in a tiny niche... empty except for a feather. I looked but didn't touch. Below was an art show. Good art, like serious proper internationally important stuff. They had to abseil the larger canvasses through the windows. A woman; the artist, grew up in the town under the shadow of the war, and recalls dreams of her father in the north Atlantic waters and her mother's hands as she kneads dough for the bakery: an endurance of love with some evervescent tingle of the horror of the bloodshed and unknown and the tender strength of feet and hands. Then I waited for a phonecall, which I seemed to miss. How the mind is variously focused and distracted: is it a power-play? JUst ConFusIon. That's all. :) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Mon Jun 25 06:08:20 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Lucksmiths In-Reply-To: <3B365939.C71EF934@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010625050820.64321.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister People, Well the people like me in north america are still without a belle and sebastian tour in the states or canada we do have something right now to fill our twee hearts with bittersweet goodness: the lucksmiths. I know this may be off topic(though not by much). Well I am posting because I know the lucksmiths are playing boston this thursday(june 29) and was wondering if anyone on sinister was going to this show. I know it will be great, plus it is the second best indie-pop band to come out of australia(the founding fathers of indie pop the go betweens being the best). So hopefully i will see some of the boston sinister people at the show. Bye the way if you never heard of the lucksmiths check them out. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars So many days pass lost in the skyline. Some things still take my heart away and leave me weaping. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Mon Jun 25 12:46:40 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:46:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: number thirty-one Message-ID: chart success. Who wants it? Well, I know it's silly, but for an hour and a half last night I did. I got home from my Sunday job at about quarter to six, in time for number twenty, but just after the 40-21 run down. Each new entry had me biting my bottom lip in anticipation. Even when the top 3 was 2 new entry's and 'Shaggy', I thought, *maybe?*. Half an hour later when I had played JD, TYCCASI and TLOAMDR three times over, teletext revealed it had charted @ 31. I immediately attempted to ascribe significance to 31. The best I could come up with is the number of the bus that goes past my front door. Any other (better) ideas from the superstitious contingent? What about in the U.S., where did JD chart there? picnics in the rain. Chances are the mild spell is coming to an end on Tuesday. I hope all planned picnics in Scarborough, Preston, Greenwich (Leicester?) go ahead *rain or shine* Sensitive souls huddled under blankets in kagouls, munching on soggy biscuits, ACE! THunder, light'ning, damp courdroy, MAGIC! This working week is going to be the longest ever (what with RAH at the end of it). Would it help to look through the eyes of a Gigolo? I don't think I could do that. Please keep me busy between now and friday. Ben XX +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Mon Jun 25 14:24:32 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:24:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You probably work at an all night cabbage Message-ID: ello babies my, what a lovely weekend, especially good at it started on thursday nite, which is always a good sign... Our indie schmindie disco was good fun and went down very well, although there wasn't as much dancing as there could've been. There definately seems to have been enough drinking though as the bloke who runs the place was well happy (although that could've just been the sangria). This means there will deffo be another one on July 5, come one, come all :) It was nice to have friday off and sit around in the sun drinking bouze and playing pool in empty pubs and thinking "ha ha, everyone else is at work!" We also watched the new (to UK terrestrial telly) South Park which was, rather inevitably, TITS. On Saturday we had a small, but perfectly formed, picnic in South Park in Oxford. There was much smut and home baking and also a virtual meetup with honey, linda, ally, calumn, carey etc in glasgow via four different mobile phones at once! For those of you who like to know these things our picnic consisted of me, mrs carsmile, liz daplyn, glampam, lucy, mark cassorotto, mark hester, chris brown, ken p chu and some of my oxford chooms. There was also lard licking and fires, but we wont mention that... We also came up with possibly *the* best idea (in my ever so humble opinion, of course) for a song request for friday, TAINTED LOVE. Ooh i can see geddes pounding his organ as i type... YAY for four day weeks! xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jun 25 20:39:51 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:39:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: JD Video Photos Message-ID: <000601c0fdb0$0dd04bc0$df1c7ad5@default> Hi Sinister People, I guess some of you will have already seen these, but for those who haven't the B&S site has some of Sarah's photos taken at the shoot for the Jonathan David video. http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ then click on Photos Why did "Beano" have to lift his leg up like that in the bath? Why am I dancing around like a little boy on my tiny English feet? is something exciting happening this Friday? Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Mon Jun 25 21:29:43 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:29:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: living the dream (exploding seagulls) Message-ID: exploding seagulls? This topic was brought up at the sheffield sinister picnic! Mikes friend Kemp (withnail wannabe and proud claimant to being 'too lardy to be twee') came along and explained in alarming detail how to feed a seagull bicarb to explode it, but all it did was be sick and fly off. Maybe it exploded in mid-air. Doubtful really. the new house is becoming livable, we got a washing machine today (fortunate, as clean socks are now a rare and valuable item) the day johnathon david came out, we were given a monstrously ugly carriage clock by mike's parents, then went to buy the single, and found track 2 alarmingly appropriate. Sheffield city centre is currently smothered in johnathon david posters, it gives me the fear. I'll have to stop listening to B&S and find some obscure lithuanian band with no record contract to worship instead... or maybe old swedish rock music? jules (currently singing 'kom intil mej' by gyllen tider*) *If you know who I'm on about, you win a bar of chocolate (but dare you claim it?) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From prbar at xxx.com Mon Jun 25 22:13:20 2001 From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:13:20 Subject: Sinister: Take your french toast and shove it Message-ID: After drinking a liter of vodka and red bulls!! before going to see mogwai!!!!, topped off with a few slightly less desirable 40's of old english for the post show celebration on saturday night, my friend and I thought that it might be a good idea to get some sleep seeing that the sun was rising and the birds were chirping. One of my other friends had decided to turn in earlier than we did; he got a lot of sleep. I rent a room in this really cooky ladies house, and this is what happened when i woke up later on at about noon, when i had possibly my worst hangover ever, coupled with an insane adrenelin rush. Cooky landlady sticks her head through the door, hearing that we're up and incredulously remarks: "your smoking in here, my god, what are you thinking?" to which my response was : "i don't know what your talking about, i'm not smoking," as i exhale. She says "i made you guys breakfast," and closes the door behind her. I look to my friend and roll my eyes and scratch my head and he tells me that whatever she made looked gross and had been sitting on the table for about three hours. So i went to investigate, and the breakfast in question turned out to be none other than french toast, smothered in coagulated fake syrup set out with forks, knives, napkins, three mini hershey bars, and of all things, three plastic cups of room temperature *from concentrate* orange juice. The french toast looked like it was from before the flood, and thus it looked, in fact, quite gross. But it was a sweet gesture, and i didn't want to tell her to take her french toast and shove it. While i took a shower i devised a plan to get rid of it without leaving a trace. my first thought was to take it and chuck it all out the window, but upon sticking my head through frame i then realized that there was nothing to the throw it into i.e., a bush, and a big pile of french toast sitting outside my window would not be too awfully inconspicuous. For some odd reason i can't control my laughter during this whole ordeal, when the answer comes to me. I run into the kitchen and gather up all three plates, and all three sets of silverware and rush them back to my room, and then i realize that there is not a single old t-shirt that i wanted to wrap all of this cold, bready confection into, so i up and take it into the bathroom with me, because i figure that it'll flush, ya'know, but i didn't make it to the toilet before i saw the big stack of towels, spread one open on the floor, flipped each plate on to the towel, and neatly wrapped it into a pink package, and rushed all the evidence into my bedroom. My friends look at me and break into hysterics, and i almost fall on the floor in painful laughter myself. After shoving the towel underneath my bed, i gathered up all the silverware, and smeared each of them around in the left over syrup so as to give the impression of it having been used, and then carried all three plates and the silverware into the kitchen, into which i stumble upon my landlady washing her dog in the sink. I leave it on the counter and return to my room, by which time we're all in a frantic rush to leave the house, and head into the city in preperation for the sunday night Mogwai!!!!!!!!! show. Upon returning home this after noon, i found the house deserted and a sticky pink towel on top of another towel on my bed. I haven't seen my landlady yet. There was no sign of the french toast. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Jun 26 03:27:49 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:27:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my back has got ridiculous fatique Message-ID: <000701c0fde7$988ca240$aadd883e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, What a Belle & Sebastious two week it's been! Tour, new single, new video, unreleased songs on the radio, I bet they'll be having their own lucky bags soon, with a corresponding B&S photo stickers book (with a double folded page for a band member's arse). Blimey, *and* RAH (rah!) is just around the corner! I like the new single very much, the piano bit at the start is gorgeous, the second song does indeed sound like "I've been to paradise but I've never been to me" but also doesn't the string section at the start sound exactly like "There's too much love"? It's still lovely tho. And Loneliness of the Middle Distance runner is great, and they left out the metal guitar bits so I can use it as a backing track to practice some RAWK, great. Speaking of "metal".. Grr, Limp Bizkit cancelled their gig at Milton Keynes, I was the most disappointed. Apparently Fred Durst broke his back.. I bet he broke it at the mosh pit during the B&S gig in glasgow, I nearly hurt myself too. I am looking forward to moshing again at Royal Albert Hall, I hope I'll see Steven Wells. I'm even more looking forward to seeing Brian Appleton tho, I wonder if he's still as jilted as John was. I still haven't heard B&S play Beyond the Sunrise at the gigs, they better play it in Albert Hall, after the disappointment of Limp Bizkit I don't think I can suffer another blow. Talking of repeated blows tho... In a post titled "Sinister: my ten biggest wanks", Hannah Brown wrote: >>from the ken chu appreciation society<< Although quite flattered that girls are now wanking over me, may I suggest that girls in the future just buy me loads of drinks to get me pissed and then take advantage of me when I'm drunk? It's way easier and much more fun than an uptown shuffling. and Talking of wanking, Brian pennington said: >>...and Richard going crazy on those skins every so often..<< Blimey. pedro homero then said: >>I read somewhere that Isobel is vegan. Is it true? << I don't think so, I've read somewhere that Isobel likes mayonnaise so much she keeps some inside her headscarf in case she gets hungry. I'm being rude now, I'm going to stop.. can't wait til friday! B&S gig yay! For those in the wrong country on the other side of the pond, sorry, you'll just have to wait a few months. :-) Gigs and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Tue Jun 26 07:15:32 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:15:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: take a gig and weild a whip Message-ID: <3B382884.F7EE4F5E@netscapeonline.co.uk> Having forgone the cooked breakfast (coffee in a flask and a chocolate croissant bought yesterday evening in a bag (the bag suits me)) I figure I have fifteen minutes... I'm daring myself to write a sinister post. I was reading ken's and thought of those little horse drawn carriages in Central Park. Or in the movies, at least. The whip thing sounds a bit sado though, so if you're into horses you can tell me what noun I should have used to describe the hand-held horse regulating instrument. Mrs. Carsmile has discovered gyllen tider. I have not, but am about to hunt for Ronnie Rinaldo, the easy listening whistling genius. I have a Japanese compilation of Swedish pop, in which Cecilia Vennersten sings Det Vackraste to charming effect. I'm listening to an old Coldcut mix CD and just got the sample 'Honey, I've got feelings I haven't used yet'... which might sound sinister but my hidden feelings are nice ones, if not for list mummy in particular, although a general gratitude is there in her direction for being a wonderful person. The music is doubling into a North African drill and I have five minutes. I know this is all uninteresting but indulge me. My horoscope says you should; though it's geared up for the American market hence all my best moments are in the middle of the night. See above, on the subject 'haven't used yet'. Mr. Moore, that was the pic they used in the Guardian review and I thought, 'sneaky!'... there's more going on here than first suspected. Is Stuart maybe dead? Are we witnessing an elaborate sham? Don't take my word for it, of course... me being no.2 dodgy witness (ta) but it amuses me to ponder absurd thoughts at 7:12 am. Gets me in the mood for spiralling costs and Hegelian aspirations of the day ahead. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jun 26 08:49:04 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: insert you're fave cliche/ song title here.... provided its about saying goodbye and getting all upset. Message-ID: <20010626074904.88328.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Ah. I had to say goodbye to Norwich, to UEA and to my pals last week. That was hard. I only met a lot of my pals this semester, and we had some pretty instant bonding. I feel closer to them than I've felt to people I've known for years. I have to say, I did get a bit weepy. And drunk. I got very drunk. Bearsuit (Norwich band) challenged me to down smirnoff ices. I did- two of the things, from full capacity. And I drunk more than the band. And they were more drunk than me. I had to keep up the hardened drinker image for Scotland, see. (even though, between you and me, I'm a total lightweight.) But everyone thinks its good I'm going. they now see me as a sort of free hotel in scotland. I suppose it didn't help when I told them that the streets of Glasgow are pavwed with indie kids, and told them about the late licences at pubs, the cool music shops, the endless record shops, the wonderful clothes shops, and the gigs, the venues, the bands you might see.... Still, I'm gonna miss it down south. Spent the entire week with my pal Darren, just slacking. It got to the stage where we didn't even bother to e mail each other anmore to say "wanna go to the bowl (uni cafe) for a coffee?". Instead I'd walk in, and there he'd be. (early riser, Darren. Always on campus from about 9am.) We chatted, we'd go to the pub, we'd wait for his girlfriend to pick him up. we'd do that for entire days. We'd do all sorts of things. Sitting outside when it was nice. Sitting inside when it wasn't. Talking about everything, putting the world of music to rights. you gotta miss that. Well, I gotta. Gonna miss Tim, and Sara too. Saras a darling. a sexy darling. Tim's a darling. A brainy darling. There's a bit of me that wishes I'd spent more time with them, rather than go off to see B+S. but then, I'd only regret not seeing b+s while I had the chance. So how is a girl supposed to choose? is Stuart as much fun as Tim? Does Chris make a good replacement for Darren? and Isobel vs Sara? who would win? (my money's on Sara. shes hardcore. I wouldn't fight her.) Then theres my other pals. Could Stevie ever be better than James Carnaby? Sarah or Sonja? Richard against wee Hellman? Hmm. Well, now I'm back home, and I got a tickly coff. Graduation is on the 12th. Gotta find a job. Big scary world. Me no like. Take it away. Get me a new one. A CLEAN one. right. thats about it. Toodly pops idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Jun 26 11:15:49 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:15:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <003301c0fe29$0734f800$0a62253e@itjfvkli> Nice to see Lloyd Cole taking up his rightful place in the annals of poetry. Also nice to see the Go Betweens being used as emotional polyfilla in a Bad Book. I read a book recently called HUMAN PUNK which was full of that sort of thing, only with The Clash and 'The Pistols' instead of the Go Betweens. There are references to The Jam and later on, to the fact that, "Weller remained true to his Woking roots," during his solo career but the Style Council are conveniently airbrushed out of the picture. I like the Style Council. STUFF YOUR CABBAGE CLOCK reminds me of a Style Council 12 inch extra track. The one about fox hunting. I don't know what it's called. It contained the immortal line, "who gets a hard-on with blood on his hands?" and we all looked a bit sheepish. It's about time someone wrote the definitive Style Council novel, probably in CSE Grade 2 French. It would be GRATE. A teenage Mick Talbot lookalike re-enacts the Long Hot Summer video with his pet sea lion playing Paul Weller. An anonymous phonecall alerts the police, and just as they get to the homoerotic punting scene, Inspector Walrus turns up, blue lights flashing on the tips of his tusks, and bellows them out from his riverside vantage point. This is the start of a dramatic sequence of events... OK, so I was a bit harsh on JD, it's quite catchy, as befits a number 31 single. Those photos of the video shoot are BEYOND WEIRD, aren't they? Isobel looks lovely though. What's that thing behind her? It looks like something out of an Oliver Stone film. There was a big old stereo behind Anthony Hopkins in NIXON. All through the film. It stalked him. I wouldn't be surprised to find that someone was inside it, like a pantomime horse. It has just dawned on me that it might have been symbolic. Well I think Missy Elliott is GRATE. I was wondering whether the quiet guitar in MIDDLE DISTANCE was due to the notorious band democracy? I suppose the speaker shredding TV mix was put together by somebody else. I think my general disappointment comes from having expected the Mike Hurst Wall of Sound. I'll just have to wait. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk Tue Jun 26 12:18:27 2001 From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:18:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: two rival gangs of foxes Message-ID: This is going to sound so very twee... I was was walking home last night and on the way i got to the cross roads before my house and there were five foxes sat in the middel of the roads staring at each other even when i walked past they caried on starring at each other. Alramed i was it was if the two rival gangs of foxes in the neighbourhood were at arms. ive never been up close to a fox before. there was an owl too... it too wooed there was no twer it. which baffled me... prehaps ive been in the city to long. my excitement about seeeing belle and sebastain has yet to get off the ground i have a sneaking suspicion its gonna be rubbish. (June 27th look out for a kid with glases and a Kurt Angle its true its true t-shirt looking bored) So prove me wrong, but if the gig is anything on the standard of the last single it'll be chuffing rubbish. i am however looking forward to the upcoming Slipknot gigs i can't wait (and bleed) - sorry but this email was getting far to twee for some one who isnt that twee. right better get to the skatepark before its get to hot sorry this has been a right royal toss up of an email i had good intentions but its tooo damn hot. love Nigel Lovexxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Jun 26 15:31:27 2001 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: 26 Jun 2001 10:31:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: tainted love vs. white horses Message-ID: <20010626143127.11045.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From tompettinger at xxx.uk Tue Jun 26 21:15:19 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Tom Pettinger) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:15:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ribena is twee... Message-ID: <002101c0fe7c$d4e2b140$39225ad4@pbncomputer> Because it's so sticky-sweet. Hello, fellow corduroy wearers, That's right, isn't it? Ribena is the nicest, most sugary drink around. No self respecting hard guy would be seen dead sipping from a trademark stripey straw. When I die I want to be dosed with painkillers then put on a ribena drip. (I've already done a vodka drip. No, really, we didn't put a needle in or anything but we drilled a hole in the lid of a bottle of ABSOLUT and carried it round on a pole, drinking it from a genuine hospital drip set. Nice, but not particularly twee.) >From reading many posts I get the impression that most sinisterees still spend money on sweets. This is a good thing. It's nice to see that although some of you (esp. idles) are being forced by modern society to be "grown-ups" you are not denying yourselves. I was well chuffed to see a mention of Reeces peanut butter cups, and a local sinisterbite even invited me round for a star wars lollipop. Quick, while honey's back is turned, does anyone know where I can buy B&S posters online? The merchadise page on the official B&S site doesn't have them, and as previously lamented i'm not going to any gigs. Many people seem to reckon B&S is indie music. is it? i reckon not, as i generally don't like indie music. i prefer the label, "alternative". I wasn't going to post tonight, but when I saw the total lack of posts i thought, why not? and I couldn't think of an answer. I'm going to make a bbc radio sheffield show tomorrow, i'm to be doing it with some other guys but between the walls of sinisterdom most of them are dull dull dull. lots of sugary love, Corduroy boy Tom P.S. Ken Chu: a B&S sticker book with an arse centrefold, wow! i bet they would make one if we said please. they could make it super twee, with little foxes in the snow borders! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 00:53:05 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:53:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: beer on the beach with a certain mr jackson (scarborough gig) Message-ID: hello, well, we just got back from scarborough, and what a night we've had! first of all, what a gig. (our) Stuart keeps saying that they must have been practicing, because they're really really good live now. but what was funny was that stevie's voice was going so in the request section, they got members of the audience to sing a song (summer holiday) instead of them. oh and there was a mental american woman, who danced on stage with them, who actually asked if struan's name was simon, not sure if it was a joke or not. and struan slagged off limp bizkit, which is fair enough, because they're shite. and everyone was literally dancing in the aisles. but the best bit about the whole night came after the gig had finished, when we were hanging around outside the futurist waiting for our coach back home. some silly people had gone to the pub, but we stuck around, just in case. it all started when Chris spotted beanz and went and got his autograph. there was a group of people singing get me away from here outside, and then struan was standing just outside the venue listening to them. Chris, Jo and Gina swoopped in for the kill, and then we all followed struan onto the beach, where he was mobbed by hundreds of (well quite a few) fans, some of whom were surprisingly wet. he was *lovely* to everyone, even the girl who brought her entire family with her. and then we saw isobel, and then the rest of the band. but really the highlight of the night (other than meeting struan of course) was when stevie, richard and bob were sitting by the sea preparing to get drunk and bob offered me and stuart a beer (which we accepted) and then stevie told us to sit down, and so we sat on the sand drinking beer and making light conversation with members of our all time favourite band. and they were really nice too, although stevie was a bit quiet. stevie says: soundtrack album more like a mini album/ep, tour of europe likely end of this year/next year, confusion about what single will be, whether it will happen. i also told him to tell struan to look out for foxes at the albert hall, because i saw one there once. he said it was a pity it wasn't winter. we thought you'd like to know, pip pip, Stuart & Feather Boa _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Wed Jun 27 00:57:56 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:57:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I love Struan and Scarborough! Message-ID: <3B392184.62FB2AAA@york.ac.uk> I have just got back from the most amazing night of my life. i am typing away at 12:40 in my college computer room with Feather Boa and Stuart Hallifax. I'm tired and so won't write too much now. I hired a bus to take everyone from York uni to the seaside. It was the happy bus and it was the happiest of time, driving through the countryside with B&S playing and lots of sun and lambs. When we got to Scarborough, it was amazing. So many indie kids! I saw every Belle And Sebastian t-shirt ever made and everyone looked so cool! the theatre was all nice and proper with "Playing today: Belle & Sebastian" written in Vegas style at the top. Jo got a photo. We were seated in row J and watched Brian Appleton/John Shuttleworth. He was amuzing, but after a while I found yself going "Where is Struan? I want to see Struan!" There was a small interval in which we could buy ice cream from the ice cream lady. Earlier I had seen two boys who lived in the sea and one little boy who was lost. Then they all came on, one after the other and I nearly fainted. I think I broke Jo's hand i squeezed it so hard. i couldn't stop beaming, but evrery time my smile got bigger I started to cry with hapiness. This was the best night of my life. They were amazing! I have never seen anything like it before. belfast Bob fitted in well, Struan was looking smart all in black, Stevie played guitar round his nipples and danced funkily as did Mick with his tartan pants. Isobel smiled a lot with a big butterfly bracelet on, Sarah sat down a lot and wore Green Flash, Beans was just cool and Richard looked in constant pain. The set list was similar to the Scottish gigs but with I Know Where The Summer Goes, Don't Leave the Light On Baby and a few others I don't remember seeing on the past set lists. All songs were great, the set rocked and Struan kept jumping about and saying lots. the second song was 'Theres Too Much Love' and Struan asked us all to come to the front and dance which i duly did until security made us go back. We clapped lots and I smiled very much. In the interval, they got people on stage to sing along to Summer Holiday! Lots of people came up and danced to some songs as well which was really funny. Everyone was going mad and kept dancing lots. Legal Man absolutely rocked, Sinister sounded gate, We Rule the School had strange new words "Skating a pyramid on ice is triangular" and everything was just fab! At the end I wanted more, but there was no encore. We all went outside to decide what to do next because our bus was not due for another hour. I waited around rather than go to the pub and it was a good thing I did! I MET THE BAND! I saw Beans packing up his stuff and went and asked for his autograph. he obliged and talked nicely to me. I was so chuffed, but when i next turned around, Struan was there. Me and Jo and Gina asked if we could have our photo taken and he told us we could and that he was going to the beach, would we like to go with him! We followed of course, as did a whole hoard of disciples as they realised who we were with. The poor man was overwhelmed, but smiled lots and told good stories and I got my photo taken twice! Later I saw Isobel and asked to have my photo taken. She said Yes. Next, Stevie came onto the beach with Bob and Richard. Tara and Stuart chatted to him and i listened for a bit until I saw Mick looking lonely. I went to talk to him and he was very chatty, lovely man. I am still in a daze, it was just grate fantastic amazing! Well, I'm sure there was other stuff i meant to say, but I'll put it tomorrow when I'm less tired and have calmed down! I met Struan I met Struan I met Struan I met Struan! Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Wed Jun 27 04:40:00 2001 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (hyde kevin michael) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: this adds nothing to the 'dog or hot-dog' debate Message-ID: Irregardless, which is the same as regardless, I just wanted to pass along my congrats and thanks to those of you who posted stuff about the gigs, and the meetings with the band in secret beach-floored rendezvous. Has anyone on the list read any Zadie Smith? she's delightfully funny, and, judging by her backflap photo, insanely attractive as well. Londoners: she is teaching at the Institute for Contemporary Arts soon (or now)- go and see her. impress her. what says 'success and confidence' like dating a young novelist celebre? Under "Odd things that happen to people that, given the right stimulus, Dave Barry might write about" file the fact that one of my closer friends from college is now a drug dealer. Also, she is disturbingly proud of the fact, as if she were selected from an applicant pool of other, less talented, bleached blond deviants. chalk it up to the MYSTERIOUS FORCE THAT MAKES THINGS HAPPEN. less of a surprise and more of a warning. well.. starting a new magazine on campus is more work than it should be. what say you all- bind it in felt, or wood? sent into XXXXXXpoltioXXXcet, and censored, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Wed Jun 27 07:03:13 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:03:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Take horses and the carriage. I need to wake up. Message-ID: <3B397721.F0162A77@netscapeonline.co.uk> It yanks my clockwork backwards and you eventually, inevitably end up with a useless tumble of twisted metal. I don't look like humph bogarde; I look like a boy "Hell, kid: you don't even look like Chandler" well you could be Montserrat Caballe and it would make no difference except in the volume department. "So what's the evidence?" No evidence, pal, and there'd be no point if there was: clowing around for kicks was never anyone's idea of fun if you want it. It's a brutal truth. Evidence? are you kidding me? Gimme two fingers... it's past 6am after all "What's the story? What are you talking about?" Just life; you know; or maybe you don't; the way things aren't right. The way things have a habit of making you cozy then screwing you over; the way the drama would be great if you had time for breaks to absorb it all; the way thick people always have the upper hand and don't even know that smile of theirs equals 'smug'... that kinda thing. "Therapy?" No thanks... I don't think some two bit pseudo-Freud-Jungian is about to solve the world's problems nor mine... but they have these series of tedious and time-wasting attempts when I'd rather be drinking spritzer and looking at the fluffy clouds. Call it prevarication or a denial of responsibility and I'll call it love. Gordon I get lost in it. Loosing things makes me happy to the extent that other people can have them. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 07:45:33 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:45:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a plate, knife, and a napster Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010627074228.04bc7af8@shell12.ba.best.com> it seems the jeepster may have signed a deal with napster for digital rights on their upcoming subscription service... (?) maybe someone out there (katrina?) could clarify. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6379332.html + senor droolcup [ the answer is in the trees ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Jun 27 09:34:29 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:34:29 +1200 Subject: Sinister: there's too much love .... Message-ID: <003401c0fee4$172e9020$f16137d2@computer> Hello folks, well, firstly ***JONATHAN DAVID*** I have it! It arrived on Monday morning, only one week after it's official release. Ummm ... it's genius, in fact, I'd go so far as to say that as an a-side, it is the best 'single' (as in, perfect 3 minute pop song) the band have ever released. Even if it does sound a lot like The Zombies, especially the "visions of love ...". (NB: Sounding a lot like the Zombies is no bad thing in Lawrence's books) "Loneliness ..." sounds pretty much as I expected, and "Carriage Clock", whist not setting this boy's world alight musically, is one of Stuart Murdoch's best very lyrics, and tells the story of how I "almost" quit a particularly hated job. (In the end I avoided confrontation by just not ever showing up again, and not returning their "where's Lawrence?" calls) I am *assuming* the new single will be "I Love My Car", on the basis that they've been playing it live, and that it wasn't played on the Peel Session the other week. err .... Neil Robertson. Any chance that that particular session will be released commercially on CD at any point? For the folks who live overseas, and for whom, with a 56k modem, "streaming audio" doesn't really stream. A compilation of BBC sessions would be a lovely stop gap, to replace those 8th generation tapes which sounded like they were recorded with a handheld mic through a toilet wall? Make an old man happy will you ...... ***THE LILAC TIME*** Fans of fey acoustic pop should look no further than the soon to be released Lilac Time best of. Entitled "The Lilac Time Compendium - The Fontana Trinity", this is a 2 CD compilation, disc one being a "best of" from the band's first three albums, and disc two containing virtually every b-side from the period. For those not in the know, The Lilac Time are a great folk-pop band who have made five albums, and are helmed by Stephen and Nick Duffy. This is a band who named their band after a Nick Drake lyric in 1986, a full 10 years before he was an essential name drop for any dull up-and-coming indie guitar band looking for credibility. Buy it, all of you. The world needs more Lilac Time CDs being played in people's front rooms on summer afternoons with the windows open. and now ..... (and sorry, everyone else) *** "NIK-O, NIK-O, LAMA SABACHTHANI" *** (trans: "NIK OVENDEN, NIK OVENDEN, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?") Has your e-mail address changed? Or are you avoiding me? Or have you cast me aside like some wanton harlot, satiated and cast aside like so much spent chaff? (or, if you're reading this, can you e-mail me please? cheers ....) ***A CASE TO BE MADE FOR MAGNUM P.I. AS THE BEST TV SHOW EVER MADE*** (alongside "The Prisoner" and "Blake's 7") One of our TV channels here has started rescreening "Magnum P.I." during the day, so I have been taping it and watching it every night. It is such a great show. I should point out here, too, that I am NOT SAYING THIS FOR ANY IRONIC OR "COOL" REASON. I genuinely believe this is the pinnacle of TV. Bear with me. I believe that Magnum P.I. was the first "self aware", or "post-modern" mainstream TV show. With Thomas Magnum's monologue, plus the sometimes Sienfeld like lack-of-plot storylines (like the time he was trapped under a plane and spent THE ENTIRE SHOW talking to a fly) I believe Magnum is an unrecognised classic. A Pantheon amongst the fibrelite pre-fabs of 80's TV. Well, *I* like it, anyway. (and I haven't been able to convince anyone else with this argument either.) ***THE BEST OF BELLE AND SEBASTIAN*** I made a 20 track compilation CD for a girl at work who I think *may* have the potential to become a B&S fan. it was a tough call, but in the end I settled for the following. Slow Graffiti Le Pastie De La Bourgeisie Women's Realm Dog On Wheels Dirty Dream Number Two Jonathan David Expectations Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying Lazy Line Painter Jane I Fought In A War Legal Man She's Losing It Seeing Other People Waiting For The Moon To Rise Sleep The Clock Around The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner The State I Am In The Boy With The Arab Strap The Stars Of Track And Field There's Too Much Love I think there is a good variety here, although sadly I had to miss out "Modern Rock Song", "The Model", "A Century Of Fakers" and "If You're Feeling Sinister" for time constraints.I think it's a great compilation, and *hopefully* it'll make her go out and buy some albums. But you didn't need to hear all that, did you? Well ... I've gone on far too long. Better go and watch Magnum ..... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DanMetcalfe at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 10:41:34 2001 From: DanMetcalfe at xxx.com (Dan Metcalfe) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:41:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Get some fish and chi-hi-hips Message-ID: <007001c0feed$5b789fb0$ed00000a@ROUNDHAY> (only cos I've had em twice in two days - and with mayo, mmmm). So this is a plea mail - 1) 5 chums & I are going down to the R!A!H! from Leeds in two days & I'm panicking I don't know where to go afterwards. Are there any sinistreens out there with twee pop club/Glog bar suggestions? I promise I'll darnce monkey darnce! 2) A while ago I saw some photos on t'net of some water towers in the Easterhouse area of Glasgae someone had lit up all colourful like. Only I can't find them anymore - can anyone point me in the right direction? OK - trace content, so to appease a few TWEE BASS PLAYERS, check this out! www.bunnybass.com/bass/zBunnyBassSignature.shtml Tra then, Dan. Me and my baby doll Never went to the beach (and we missed the beach at Bowlie aswell) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Wed Jun 27 11:05:59 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:05:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: "I'm on an alcohol diet. I've already lost three days." Message-ID: <20010627100559.74882.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> The subject line was uttered by Barry Cryer on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue which is why it's the bestest show on the Radio 4 apart from maybe that one John Peel does about how families don't really get on and things. Lots of people have been talking about Johnathan David. What is this? Some kind of Belle & Sebastian list? OK here goes... Popped into my local "small" record shop last week and grabbed a picture of some people looking awkward at a toga party. Paid 4 quid, got a penny in change and skipped home all excited. Threw it into the CD player, cranked flatmate's new amp up to 11 and pressed PLAY... Mmmm... Nice piano intro, tune already rattling around my head. Voice comes in... oh dear Stevie - did you lose your headphones? Start to enjoy things more as they start layering on the layers. Suddenly much happier by the end. File under Growers. Inlay reads like secondary school RE essay. Concentrate on the music. Take Your Carriage Clock is better. They seem more comfortable with a string section than they did with anything on Flappyclap. Struan sounds angry. GRRR! Middle distance runner is ace. I can't comment on the guitar solo since I'm not familiar with the earth-shattering live version. I'm only here for the whistling and TLOTMDR has some of the best recorded whistling since The Scorpions' Wind of Change. Of course the other great Whistling record was I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman by 'Whistling' Jack Smith. A top ten hit I believe until the scandal broke - Milli Vanilli style - that not a note in the recording had actually issued from 'Whistling's lips. David Moore mentioned a curious feeling of growing excitement apparently focused on this coming Friday. I think it's contagious. Must do some work. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toescantalk at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 11:39:32 2001 From: toescantalk at xxx.com (toescantalk at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:39:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: My life as a Bus Drivers enemy Message-ID: Hello children, I hope I find you all in fine fettle. I'll be very late and probably last, again, in saying that I had a very lovelyicious time in Glasgow for giggages. And won't it be fun with this weekend in London with a double attack of Glaswegian pop with B&S and Camera Obscura and picnics full of cup cakes and fish cakes and Ribena Toothkind. As the other Ribena's are NASTY and EVIL to teeth. So be very afraid. There's not much a bed full of soft toys and a collection of antique cardigans can do in defense of EVIL Ribena... Umm.. Talking of EVIL things aren't BUSES EVIL. In particular the drivers of said mode of public transportation. This morning I got thrown off a bus for shops open at 6:30am not having any change to give me for my 10 English pound note and told to try the next bus behind. I thought he was pointing at the back to just get on anyway until he shouted at me to get off his bus. EVIL. I was then similarly told by that bus driver to get off and lectured about how it was my responsibility as a utiliser of said public transportation system to carry round exact change at all times. People wishing to travel on said packed bus were very impressed by my delaying their journey so I interrupted him and explained my situation calmly and clearly. Well OK I told him I needed to get to fucking work. Which wasn't nice of me I know, but I had been drinking alot of Ribena of the non-toothkind variety recently which as we know is EVIL. And it had not only given me EVIL teeth, but it had spread to my newly purple and thoroughly EVIL tongue. Well obviously that led to the bus driver ranting about how it wasn't necessary to swear. He was a right ranter. A bit like that lovely tennis player from Barcelona still trying to win her first Wimbledon A ranter Sanchez. Talking of which why can't it rain cause then we get to here Cliff Richard singing great songs. Bugger tennis, give me Cliff anytime. Funnily enough Sue Barker used to say something like that.. Umm... oh the bus, well then I got bored and said are you going to let me on o not one to keep his opinions to himself he let me know how it wasn't his job to throw people off buses and that I would be travel illegally. So I said fair enough I'll even pay the £5 penalty fare if I get caught, that is if they have any change. And I can tell you all it really is a thrill to travel illegally. I had an illegal seat, illegal buttons to press to inform the ranting driver it was my illegal stop to end my illegal journey and illegally got off the vehicle and everything... I really wish I was at home dreaming of giant caterpillars right now. Oh and come to the picnic on Saturday in Greenwich, London, Great Britain it should be nice. Like a fluffy bunnny on Felecity Kendall's lap. NICE. Strawberry flavour. Oh and don't worry about climbing up Greenwich Hill as I'm planning to get a shopping trolley, some strong wire and a few pulleys. Thus creating my own cable car system. I may charge a small fee as Shopping Trolleys don't come cheap these days. £1.. I ask you. Oh and don't worry about having correct change... Te ra, Martin P.S Damn, I just rememberd about paragraphs. I hate it when that happens. ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 11:54:15 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:54:15 0000 Subject: Sinister: Are you wearing your scarborough flares? Message-ID: hello, wowee. I have just got back from the gig in scarborough, and have to let off some of my excited steam to the sinister family who will not think I am either a)mad or b)sad. They rhymed on purpose. There have been a few mails already, so i won't go on. Or maybe I will just because it was so lovely. Even though the security man spoke to me and said ' if you don't settle down I'm afraid you'll have to leave'. And I couldn't rally settle, becasue who can settle during 'TBWTAS' etc. So I jigged about quite a bit and managed to lean on the stage and try and take photoes of Sarah and Isobel from odd angles. When they come out i will probably be able to see up isobel's nose:) The set was similar to the one I saw at Barrowlands, except they did a few less and no snazzy encore. But I think that was because their were too many twee people in the asiels being a fire risk. Also scarborough was nice and I feel like I am still at the beach because I have half of it in my hair and ingrained into my cords. For some reason i felt so jubilant after the gig that I decided swimming was a good idea. Hence could not hang around on beach for band hence am now annoyed. May lie and say saw them anyway. Oops, you won't believe me now. cover blown. Why does Isobel have to concentrate so hard when she is doing her percussion stuff. she was playing her rattly egg with a frown of concentration I would usually associate with a physics exam. And afterwards she was puffing from the exertion. someone said she was like an asthmatic hamster and i think i agree. although she is an essential art of the band really, and i am only jealous because struan is always really nice to her, even when she had to start again like last night.bless. Oops, that got long. Going now to wash hair and chastise self for not staying on beach even in wet flares. grace x>x>x> --- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Primitivepainter at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 12:50:59 2001 From: Primitivepainter at xxx.com (Primitivepainter at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:50:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: is that a Hipflask in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me? Message-ID: <11f.dae4ce.286b22a6@aol.com> well hello there... its been a while...i took a bit of a break...i've been detatched from everything,and in that time i've returned to see Belle and Sebastian touring and that The Strokes have taken over the world...oh my gosh..."The Strokes are best band to come out in the last 25 years" well i've got news for them...they obviously haven't heard of Hipflask...but then not many people have,myself and another member of this parish have taken matters into our own hands,and formed a band based loosely on Slipknot...we did try desperately to get the Belle and Sebastian support slot...but they just weren't convinced and frankly i think we scared them!...we all wear masks and boilersuits, not to make fun of Slipknot but as a mark of respect... because what they do is pretty damn funny,we played our first gig recently,behind closed doors,with our audience in blindfolds, we have to tone it down a bit as a couple of the audience had to be sedated afterwards!...we haven't got a compl! ! ete lineup as yet and we are loo king to recruit one or two of you in the near future...by the way you won't have a choice...if we decide you fit the bill your in...masks are not optional they are essential...we have plans to cover the B&S song "Dog on wheels" but our version will be slightly different....it shall be called "Dead dog on wheels"... but we have been busy...we have been sworn to secrecy until now...and we are treating this project just like fight club... the first rule of Hipflask is that there is no such thing as hipflask! and the second rule of hipflask is that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HIPFLASK! so don't bother asking myself and the other founding member of Hipflask the good mr paul field ( sorry for grassing you up mate but i don't intend on taking all of the flack for this myself! ) about any of our activities...because if we tell you 1) you will have to join us or 2) you don't even want to know what 2) is... what do we sound like?...well nothing like Slipknot...theres no growling...but there is feedback and distortion and of course masks...and thats all i'm at liberty to say...a friend described us as sounding like the bastard children of the Revolving Paint Dream in full flow...and I guess thats as nice a thing as anybody is going to say about us...but beware...we are ready...and intend to make unannounced live appearances in the near future...the Truth or Consequences Ep is recorded and we are currently in negotiations with interested partys...its been a busy few weeks... kids have fun at the picnics and gigs...myself and paul will be running the eye over a few of you to see if you have the right stuff to join us in our noise making activities...but i can't make anyone any promises... huge props to the lovely miss llew...for just being her sparkling self...she's all for Hipflask...so much so that we have made her an honourary member...theres no discrimination with Hipflask...females are welcome as well...and she will be the first person to hear what we have to offer... thats me all tapped out now and i'll slip safely back into oblivion... thankyou kindly... richard... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 12:54:10 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:54:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beautiful, a bit tempremental Message-ID: The sky really got its act together today. After yesterdays frivolous display of candy floss pink clouds on pale blue backgound it really had it all figured out... As I left the house it was a blank white canvass no messing around... just plain and simple. As the thunder rolled around the sky the canvass changed to dark purple. The colour began to seep into the world below. If you must know I happen to think that the world below looks slightly like the inside sleeve of 'fold your hands child' but with a few more gaps where fires have burnt down listed buildings. At least that is how I like to imagine it when I look out of the window. Feel free to disagree if it makes you happy. So then the rain started and the sky really came into its own. Sinking lower and lower, eating the tops of buildings and trees, but all the while remaining united in colour. "lightening never strikes twice" So this was what the sky was prepared for. This one off guest appearance and the sky was taking a back seat in the performance. Nevertheless the sky was certainly making sure all around were looking their best. The rain fell and dripped onto the leaves of dark purple trees leaving an inky trail in the gutter. The bright green and yellow bushes contrasted sharply and unrealistically. Lights flickered and people ran around shutting down computers and expensive electrical equipment. It was turning into a very moving and emotional show. So at long last, time for the lightening. The main attraction. And what did it do ? Nothing, it bottled out thats what. One incredible flash of light and then... nothing. All after such an incredible build up. The sky sulked and individual clouds reappeared. Its not easy when you have to work with such tempermental celebrities. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gltitchener at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 14:54:24 2001 From: gltitchener at xxx.com (gina titchener) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:54:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ease your feet off in the north sea (whilst eating mick's chocolate) Message-ID: hiya people. i'm afraid this is another scarboro post, mainly for scarboro people, in case they have forgotten what they saw.... the set list was (something like): le pastie de la bourgeousie too much love magic of a kind word i know where the summer goes if you're feeling sinister don't leave the light on baby the model my girl's got miraculous technique *jonathon david (summer holiday, performed by phil and kerry) simple things the boy with the arab strap we rule the school family tree like dylan in the movies i love my car the wrong girl woman's realm legal man *i didn't write this one down (d'oh) and am relying on my boyfriend's none-too-reliable memory. he says it was here. if there are any others you guys can remember that i forgot to jot down during the gig, please mail me. i have to confess it was the best gig i've ever seen. it was helped by the fact that I MET STRUAN and nearly all the rest of the band afterwards whilst sat on a beach at half eleven (does life get any better than that?), but they also played really well, did a good collection of songs, were AUDIBLE for a change (see nottingham, september 98 for previous appalling sound levels) and everyone really enjoyed themselves, dancing when they could. fact 1: the girl on the front of 3..6..9 is called vikki. i know cos struan told me when he signed my poster. fact 2: i haven't seen anyone else mention this, so can i be the first to say that stuart's transparent bass guitar was phil lynott's (unsure of spelling) (from thin lizzy) and was a present from the band (aw). yes i can. mick keeps his chocolate in the same bag as his shoes. i'm going to stick my neck out and say i love my car *won't* be the lead track of the next single, mainly because it changes time signature three times, from three four to four four and back, and back again. it would never get played on radio 1. and it references the beach boys, who, as they released songs before 1997, don't actually exist in radio 1's eyes. cliff would have liked this. it mentions summer holiday. still swooning, gina x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 15:22:50 2001 From: steve at xxx.com (Steve Genge) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:22:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sinister related polar bears as CDs (huh?) Message-ID: <005501c0ff14$a61fbae0$1201000a@ajb249> Good morning/afternoon A short story........................There was once a chap living in Portsmouth in the UK (well someone has to) who fell in love with Belle & Sebastian, discovered a wonderful mailing list which in turn grew and developed an extra limb in the shape of a chatroom (not sure what type of limb that would be?) This chatroom introduced the chap to a lot of cool people but one in particular stole his heart and after a couple of years of phone calls at strange times of the day the chap left good old Portsmouth, moved to America and got married where he's currently living happily ever after (pause for ahhhhhs) Now as is the tradition at the wedding the couple was presented with money from their kind and generous relatives and after purchasing a plethora of toasters and oven mittens they thought we know we'll release a CD of bands we love and thus began a process that lasted almost as long as the couple's relationship............ Among the bands who kindly gave them songs were several with strong Sinister/Belle & Sebastian connections including The Lucksmiths and three song featuring Sinister listees themselves. These are Callow who gave them a song that sounds like the precious offspring of a romantic union between Stuart Murdoch & Joe Pernice, Ireland's finest The Dudley Corporation with a song actually about the couple's overseas love and Aberdeen featuring the very lovely Beth Dean now of The Trembling Blue Stars and their better than the original version of Biff Bang Pows' She Never Understood. Add to this wonderful songs by the likes of The Aislers Set, Lovejoy, Jordans, Watoo Watoo & White Town and you can just imagine the joy the couple felt when all these boxes of CDs were deposited on the doorstep of their Hoboken abode. But the couple soon realized that much like when you find an abandoned baby Polar Bear it's not fair to keep it locked up inside it should be allowed to run free and find others of it's own Polar Bear kind and so the couple decided it was only fair to do the same with their CDs. So they felt they should turn to you dear fellow Sinisterines to help nurture their CDs and let them meet your no doubt inspired CD collections where they can have rich and fulfilling lives. Do you want to help? I'm sure you do and for the price of two pints (roughly) of your favorite beverage you can!!! Just click here: http://www.redrosesforme.com Thank you, you've been a wonderful audience steve x red roses for me po box 1118, hoboken NJ 07030 USA www.redrosesforme.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 16:11:11 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:11:11 Subject: Sinister: Attn: London RAH-goers Message-ID: Hello all. Just a quick reminder to everyone going to the gig on Friday. There will be a Sinister-picnic on Friday before the R!A!H gig, and here are the details: THE PLACE: The Albert Memorial, Hyde Park (opposite R!A!H) http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=526569&Y=179893&arrow=N&zoom=1 THE TIME: 2pm. ME: I'll be the boy with a Twisted Nerve badge looking sinister. It should be a real laugh. The idea is we congragate and play football and drink alcohol and be twee, and then storm the RAH the moment the doors open, so that we can all get to the front and throw our knickers at our prefered member of the band. If there's anybody unsure of any details, send me an email, or give me a call on the day if you get lost. My mobile number is 078-6684-1757. I hope to see you all there. love Sam.x (your picnic mummy) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From charlie_ivens at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 18:12:27 2001 From: charlie_ivens at xxx.com (Charlie Farley) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:12:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Blatant plugging but all worth it... Message-ID: Just in case you haven't seen it already, you can see the new Belle & Sebby vid and read some words here: http://www.now.com/mp3tv2/pulse/bands_and_artists/artist_profiles Also some nice things about Mouse On Mars and Four Tet, if yer interested...ignore Muse though, cos they're rubbish. That's it i guess. Back to lurkerdom. For what it's worth (and I may well get a lynching for this), I think "Jonathan David" is far and away the most embarrassingly terrible record B&S have ever seen fit to release. And I love them so, yes I do. Still, what're you gonna do? They can still come round for a cup of tea anytime... Chairs! ttfn xox Charlie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ceasetocare at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 19:28:07 2001 From: ceasetocare at xxx.com (Megan Conniff) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:28:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chip taylor & belle & sebastian Message-ID: I checked the archives over and over again, figuring that SOMEONE must have pointed this out before, but all I could find were sinister's references to Chip Taylor's "Wild Thing." So I thought I'd point out that there are some fairly good pictures of belle & sebastian on chip taylor's site, http://www.trainwreckrecords.com under photo gallery. You can see one of Hyndland Parish Church as well as a pretty nice shot of the whole band. Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I just came across it today and got excited. And if anyone does look at the web site and see the pictures, tell me, is it just me, or does Stuart's shirt seem a bit too transparant in the second picture, right on his elbow? Every time I look at it, it irks me. Maybe it's just the light. Maybe it doesn't matter. Well, no, I know it doesn't matter. But there you go - Megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 20:20:06 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (M. Timothy Meskers) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:20:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The infamous Haskell/Murdoch connection. Message-ID: THE INFAMOUS HASKELL/MURDOCH CONNECTION I was watching television the other day, and Leave it to Beaver was on. There was talk of sweets and talk of the Beav having a sleep-over, and if Wally can sleep at his friend's, why can't the Beav? So Wally and Lumpy went to visit old Eddie Haskell at the garage. I'm not sure if this particular actor always played young Edward, but I'll be darned if he didn't look much like Stuart. So my point is, next time you're watching Leave it to Beaver, keep an eye out for Eddie. Tell me that he doesn't look a bit like our own Stuart Murdoch. SPEAKING OF THE DEVIL... He still hasn't written back yet, although I didn't expect him to- I just wanted to thank him. Your tales of the beach and hobknobbing with the stars are inspiring and disheartening at the same time. One day, though- One day I'll see them. A NOTE ON ACCOMPLISHMENTS We just hit our 500th digest a few back, hooray for everyone. I also like the new addition to the quote box at the end of every post. See if you can pick out which one I'm talking about. ON DIFFICULTIES OF LEARNING TO PLAY LEFT-HANDED GUITAR I will send my right arm and left leg (for aesthetic purposes, we must have balance) for a set of Belle & Sebastian pins. I didn't want to resort to this, but I've got two kid- neys as well, if anyone's children are needing. Or if you'd rather, I could send you an autographed cd-r of Secret Agent X-9's greatest hits. BUT SERIOUSLY, FOLKS I am really excited to read about all of your concert experiences, keep them coming! WHAT IS POPULAR IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT, AND WHAT IS RIGHT IS NOT ALWAYS POPULAR. I don't know about the pedal steel in Carriage Clock. No offense if the player's on the list, I don't question your talent at all. You play a mean pedal steel but I didn't think it fit with the rest of the song. And for anyone who's wondering, I got this particular subheading off of a banner I saw in my seventh grade mathematics class. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 06:14:05 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:14:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: from rubbish to RAH Message-ID: <003d01c0ff91$49c59440$816701d5@aqlzosqt> i'm all for exploding seagulls. brighton's bin-men are on strike so we have spent the past week or so under an ever-growing pile of stinking rubbish. the seagulls, not my favourite fowl to start with, have been ripping apart abandoned rubbish sacks with greater and greater audacity. i think they may be evolving into a race of super gulls, driving humans away from their precious booty and effectively imprisoning us in our houses as seen in hitchcock's imaginatively titled 'the birds'. thankfully i am escaping to london (renowned for its clean streets of course) on friday for RAH! type entertainments. we are positively drowning in content round here lately, but nevertheless i'll also go wooo wooo i'm so excited and oo jonathan david's really good, as in listened-to-it-4-times-in-a-row good. it has what, come to think of it, i used to consider the b&s 'trademark': a delicately touching story combined with p!o!p! catchiness, last seen properly on IYFS. mmm, and i'm getting the vinyl next week. to fellow royal alberters: me, miss sophie and dj matt will be dragging our provincial arses up to a pre-gig pub around 6 or 7, hopefully the same one as the sinister massive :-) hm, i don't feel quite right using the word 'massive'. the sinister moderately-sized, perhaps. by the way, if you see ailsa ross running around in a panic on the night it's probably because i haven't given her her ticket yet. though it might also be because she's run out of alcohol... i hope you all recognise me with my new haircut. i'll be with a pretty girl with brown hair and a short sexy boy in glasses, falling myself somewhere between those two descriptions. (ie brown hair, glasses, short, and now look like a boy.) when all this gig madness is over i might propose a brighton picnic. because the beach is wasted on most of the dumb slackers that live here, really. luv a fucked in the head psycho-fan, archel xxx ps: wasn't that a lovely post from dimitra the other day? in fact you're *all* great :) *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MIWinship at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 22:58:51 2001 From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:58:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: I Was Batman's Kaiser Bill... Message-ID: <110.1937c24.286bb11b@aol.com> PEDANTIC CONTENT Eagle-eyed listees may have noticed that this week's (shining) NME live review of the Glasgow gig(s) refers to the Friday date but the accompanying photo clearly shows the bagpiper, which was on the Saturday. Gah! WHISTLING Yes, it's true that the man who claimed to be 'Whistling' Jack Smith had nothing to do with the record. I recommend finding his album, 'Around the World With..', in any good charitable shop, if only for the disturbing 'psychadelic' cover image of Jack clutching a globe and grinning blankly. The 'musical director' (and possible real whistler) was Ivor Raymonde, who arranged Scott Walker's solo albums and is the dad of Simon Raymonde from the Cocteau Twins and, and, and.... Whistling fans should check the appendix in the excellent book 'Ways of Hearing' by Ben Thompson for more examples of "those parts of a song which can't - or shouldn't - be put into words". Arab Strap and the Smiths are in there. I trust that revised editions will include '...Middle Distance Runner'. BUS DRIVERS Whilst I would never expect to get on a bus with a £10 note (that's just asking for trouble...) I was also subject to bus driver bastardness in the Greenwich area today. It was that trick of the bus you want tailgating the bus you don't want so that when the one in front stops the one behind overtakes and shoots off, 'conveniently' having not seen you as you desperately try to flag it down as it passes the stationary 177 and you swear at him then realise the other bus is still there with it's doors open.... Oh, enjoy the RAH Band, everyone. I hope they do 'The Crunch' for you.... Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 00:35:44 2001 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:35:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: travel in the southern usa Message-ID: <70.c44981a.286bc7d0@aol.com> Hello listees, I haven't posted in a while but I did this last time I traveled and met with good results. I'm leaving tomorrow morning to drive across the united states. We're going to visit new Orleans, Houston, Austin, Tucson, and some places north of there...but we are two lovely girls who need places to stay this week, or at least yards to put a tent up in. We make good company, good cooks, and good conversation. I have a cell phone for this trip, and the USA # is 706-380-5101....I don't feel wierd about posting my cell phone number to a web of strangers. We are headed back to Olympia Washington. If anyone would like to adopt us...hmmm...there are sexy pictures of me at the Sinister headquarters site if you want to look first. Or on the makeoutclub.com ... hmmmm.... are there many listees on the MOC? It is a fun site, highly recomended unless you're interested in s/m-in which case you'll discover all people into bandS/Music or the smithS/Moz Love Courtney B +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Jun 27 23:42:04 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:42:04 Subject: Sinister: The Ballad Of Sam & Hannah Message-ID: Hello all. SAM SAYS: Yes, the moment has finally come. My posts will go downhill from now, because I've done what John Lennon did in 1968 - got his bird involved. HANNAH SAYS: You cheeky get! SAM SAYS: Anyway... there is purpose to this post - it's not just to say that ner ner ner ner ner, I've got a woman - it's to say that me and her went to see the Kings Of Convenience tonight at the Union Chapel and it was fab in every way. HANNAH SAYS: <> Arrrryes. SAM SAYS: You can never keep them quiet, can you? Anyway, we were at this gig, and all of a sudden, Arlan from the band starts talking about his love for B&S, and me and her start grinning quite maniacally, and then he tells this story. He was at the Union Chapel when B&S played there back in the day before they went shit, and he pointed out where he sat and all the rest of it. Anyway, he said that he loved the band dearly, and wanted to complete the cycle by performing one of their songs tonight, and so he played his favourite one, You Made Me Forget My Dreams. He did it wonderfully, with his cute little twee Norwegian-tinged vocals, but the funny thing was that before he did it he uttered a little disclaimer that his band-mate categorically did NOT like B&S, which made people chuckle. There was also some boy in the front row wearing a B&S Ampersand teeshirt just like mine, which was totally unexciting. Anyway, so we're just writing to show off that we're going to hear one more live B&S song than all the rest of you in the coming two days. Hurrah. HANNAH SAYS: I have nothing to do with this post, I'm just watching Sam type, and have him by my side to correct me punctuation and that???!!!! SAM SAYS: Please kids, avoid people like this. They're full of shit. No, that's a joke of course, she's a lovely girl. HANNAH SAYS: My arse. SAM SAYS: You're right. She's not a lovely girl, she's just got a lovely arse. Anyway, here's the point of the post: We saw Kings Of Convenience tonight and they were fab and they played a B&S cover, and we like to bicker with each other. HANNAH SAYS: I'm gonna take this opportunity to have a shower. What shall we call this post? SAM SAYS: I dunno, how about 'The Ballad Of Sam And Hannah' HANNAH SAYS: <> Yeah, that's quite nice. You're going home in a funking ambulance. SAM SAYS: Oooh, what an attractive prospect. See you all on Friday. x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 02:49:00 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:49:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: seymour stain Message-ID: <003501c0ff74$835eef20$5944893e@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Getting a haircut is *such* a scary thing, everytime I go I get abused by hairdressers with comments like "cor you haven't had a haircut for a while have you?" well I guess I ask for it for having such long flowing hair.. but now it's all gone, went to the hairdressers today and asked for a "good chopping" and off comes everything. "Who's that guy in the mirror?" asks a boy "he sure is sexy but who is he?" "Ooh it's me" replies the boy to himself as he adjusts his glasses and walked back to the computer room to type an e-mail to sinister. Primitive Painter said: >>...we have plans to cover the B&S song "Dog on wheels" but our version will be slightly different....it shall be called "Dead dog on wheels"... << I wonder if you're stealing Red Bull Dozers' ideas... (The creator of "Judy and the Dream of Corpses")... I'll tell them you know, and they will come and beat you up :-) They're very hard, you know, and they practice Satanism. Even the Red Bull Dozers have to stand aside tho this week cos of B&S! and RAH! RAH! RAH! It's Albert, he's royal and like most royalties he's a whore. RAH! Rachel Foreplay said: >>i hope you all recognise me with my new haircut. i'll be with a pretty girl with brown hair and a short sexy boy in glasses, falling myself somewhere between those two descriptions. (ie brown hair, glasses, short, and now look like a boy.)<< I wonder if you're stealing my idea... I, too, hope you all recognise me with my new haircut. If I'm lucky I might be with a pretty girl with dark hair although I can do without the short sexy boy in glasses bit, I have enough competition as it is, I'm also somewhere between those two description now (i.e. dark hair, sexy, glasses, short, sexy, and now actually look like a boy). RAH! So, are we all going to go to Royal Albert Hall wearing our best suits and dinner jackets? I am, that's why I'm wearing my t-shirt with only 3 holes in. Dinner Jackets and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremyt at xxx.au Thu Jun 28 07:46:54 2001 From: jeremyt at xxx.au (Breams) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:46:54 +0800 Subject: Sinister: I was happy for a day in 1975, pity I wasn't born until 1981... Message-ID: <01a201c0ff9e$21e86d50$984426cb@apm.net.au> Relationships are funny things. Not like "Funny, Ha ha", but more "Funny, funny". I s'pose odd is the word I'm looking for. When they're in process, I'm not sure anyone really knows what it is that keeps them involved, beyond the inexplicable desire to desire. When it's over, what exactly is it that you miss? I suspect it's one of two things. Either the lack of human companionship, or more than likely, the lack of regular and abundant sex. Half of the list would probably say they would miss the companionship, when obviously they're just not getting any, and the other half would say they're missing the sex because they've got reputations to uphold. Of course then there's the other half who are emotional reptiles, suffering acute nymphomania, and there predicament is too sad to even contemplate. The worst part of the whole kettle of koi (apart from the prospect that anyone might still be reading this) is that it's the severance of said contacts that causes gentle people like myself to utter complete bollocks to a large number of people, all of whom are ready to pounce on the delete key like a cat on petrified little defenceless mouse. I had grand plans for inspiring a mixture of sympathy and happiness with this post. But I think I've failed on both counts. Judging by my luck at the moment this post will probably implode when I hit the send button. Either that or it will elope with my mail program. Sorry to take up your precious time/space. Breams ps. I'm sick too, and I'm sure that mucous is a hallucinogen. So just put this all down to me being under the influence of illicit bodily fluids. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 08:42:16 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:42:16 Subject: Sinister: canterbury anyone? Message-ID: hey darlings, This is Becka in Sweden writing to ask of your splendid advice. The thing is I am going to uk this fall to study for a month in the wonderful city of canterbury and just though it would be nice to hook up with some sinister people over there, andthe question are there any in canterbury or areas close? We should hook up and have a picnic or a pubnight and be belle maniacs like we did, I am going to london some days too and maybe brighton for one weekend..I still recall the nice picnic we had 2 years ago in london at primrose hill and then the spread afterwards.. hope you all are doing well I am in stokcholm for the summer working my butt off but other than that things are going well..going to the accelerator festival on july the 5th with bands like :The Magnetic Fields,Arab Strap,The Strokes,The Moldy Peaches,The Black Heart Procession,Kathryn Williams,Four Tet,The Hives, The Bear Quartet, Magnus Carlson, Loosegoats, Fireside, Lemko Hall If anyone is in stockholm this week theyb should just tell us and join to the one day event.. hugs rebecka webpage: http://hem.passagen.se/beckygirl _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 10:47:41 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:47:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: but, as I'm not looking for a wife and I can't play table tennis - here I am. Message-ID: <20010628094741.78744.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> the archetypal comedian who plays a character which is almost pretty much themselves but with dialogue not written by them but by someone else is tony hancock. anyone who likes comedians of this sort should check him out. the half-hours and the films he was in. some people think that the stuff that wasn't written by gaulton and simpson is much less funnier. but it's still really very funny. the composer and conductor of the incidental music [for the 'hancock's half hour's] was wally stott. he arranged a lot of scott walker's solo albums. he also changed his sex. from a man to a woman. I saw belle and sebastian in glasgow but didn't post. then. I'll just mention it now: it really was very good. I'm glad it happened. it was worth it. I feel better because of it. I met some nice people at the picnic. but I was tired. so people might think I'm rude. and maybe I am. when I'm tired. that's enough. I heard belle and sebastian on radio one but I didn't post. then. I'll just mention it now: it really was very good. et cetera. I do like the rhythmic talking in 'shoot the sexual athlete' very much. but I was tired. enough again. I met a nice man from chicago at the weekend. after almost mistakenly attending 'an evening of guitar music' at hynland's church. as I say: he was nice. and we talked about music for a while. because I like some music from chicago. and so did he. I highlighted some areas of my musical ignorance. and, with his ball-point pen and my used underground ticket, he tried his best to set out a list of nice music to hear which would also resolve some of these gaps in knowledge. I offered to compile and send him a list of nice buildings he should see. he was a nice man. he had a beard. and a beret. also at the weekend: I found out that a friend from my university course has signed himself and me up to go to the czech republic next year. for studying purposes. it was going to be prague originally. but now he says 'brno'. not knowing anything about that country. I don't know if there's much difference between the two. except, obviously, the consonant to vowel ratio. no-one is likely to recall my last post. but I do. and I'm feeling indulgent. I mentioned spying people who looked like bill wells and chris geddes at the steve malkmus show at the q.m.u. and I mentioned the support band. lonecop. and their bow-wielding singing guy. well. he gets around. because. I went to see damon and naomi at king tut's. I never did actually *see* either damon or naomi. BUT. I *did* see lonecop's bow-wielding singing guy at the bar. at one point. when I woke up. briefly. THEN. I was going to canada and I was checking in for my flight. and he walked past me. the same lonecop bow-wielding singing guy. and I just thought to myself that it was quite peculiar. and I still think that now. but it probably wasn't THAT peculiar. that you see the same people. there are probably people that I've seen a greater number of times than this guy. but, because they don't sing or wield bows for lonecop, I haven't noticed. anyhow. I got the 'playback singers' album by damon and naomi a few weeks back. following the advice of a narrow wizard. I'm sure it's probably very good. but I haven't listened to it. as yet. just now I'm reading a book called 'flatland: a romance of many dimensions'. it's very good. and I'd recommend it. if I thought there was no chance that someone might actually read it as a result and report back on how boring it is. but I enjoy it. hey! I'm going to recommend it anyhow. there is a very cheap edition in print just now. a 'thrift edition', if you like. I got my copy for the equivalent of seventy-five pence. it's certainly worth it. anyone who already HAS a copy: you have no excuse. I got the new beta band album on napster. most likely the last favour napster'll do me. I like the album. I know some people don't like the beta band much. but I know that I do. very much. but not as much. obviously. I think that's probably enough. or too much. okay, richard ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Thu Jun 28 13:08:55 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:08:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a short tale of self pity: we all need tails from time to time Message-ID: <3B3B1E56.F80AB853@netscapeonline.co.uk> I'm posting too much these days. Shoot me. Go on. Put me out of my misery. It sorta makes me tick to steal time though. This and that demand and limbo under all the crap and weehey! Space. That's me being a selfish git but what else do I have to live for? Normality is a dream that right royally sucks the life out of sensibility. Play the game because it suits the Empire? Screw it! Right now my internet connections are not functioning because some smart geezers placed profit over requirements of any other sort. Ok ok ok I'm sick so I took the day off work and want to talk to nobody or everybody or maybe I just want to escape up my own arsehole. Intimacy is a sweet terror. Content. This is a Belle and Sebastian mailing list and this is all garbage in 1400 in-trays. Go on! Shoot me! Delete! Actually I'm smiling now getting it out of my system. The talking cure. More ad-hoc witch-doctery. Today I don't exist. Perhaps I ought to type this all in white. Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. For knowledge too in itself is power. Swiftly followed by 'nascentes morimur' meaning 'from the moment we are born we die'.... so flicking pages for a cheerier note: 'Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse' Ain't Kansas any more, Toto and; Miss. Garland, stop bursting into tears: it wrecks your mascara. Gordon see that colour yellow? We describe the sun with it. And vomit too. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwng at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 13:12:47 2001 From: mwng at xxx.com (abrupt to the point of rudeness) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:12:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bollox Message-ID: Yeah, seagulls exploding, yeah, that’ll be grand. Possibly we could use them as bombs the next time sinister fc play nme fc, yeah, that’ll be grand. You know this reminds me of when I was a kid we CRASH, what the... Hang on a second; something’s just hit my window... Wait a minute, no it can ’t be, the pungent smell of strong cannabis, the sickly stench of cheep root whisky, accompanied by a faint whiff of death, and, oh God it is as well. Well look what the cat dragged in. ME: Where the hell have you been ay? PP: Squawk! Fuck me. [brushing off suit] ME: I’d rather not PP: Fucking hell! Where the hell haven’t I been? It all started about eight months ago. I was having a nice little break in Colombia, you know, sun, sand, sangria, trill, the works, nice little holiday. Anyway, it was the last night and you know me, I decided to go gambling, well, while the cat’s away. ME: What? PP: Mrs PP wasn’t there so ME: You didn’t take your wife with you, you cheep bastard. PP: Fuck off! [right wing slammed onto desk] I’ve been to hell and back and the last thing I need is a lecture from a shitty little wank stain like you okay [pointing index feather]. ME: Sorry, it’s just that PP: Well, all I ask is a little respect that’s all; I used to work my arse off for you bastards and all I ask, the one thing I ask for you to give a little respect to me. ME: Wasn’t that a line from a Jimmy Somerville record. PP: Are you taking the cunting piss pall? I mean, do you think I’m some sort of mug, some sort of fairy [right wing raised and end feathers made to go limp], I’ll tear off your ugly fucking head and shit down your ugly fucking hole you ugly fucking bleeding arse squirrel. Listen pal, one more smart arse bollock from you and [reaching into jacket and removing a Stanley knife] I’ll introduce you to my friend Stanley, do I make myself - crystal - fucking - clear. ME: Yes I’m sorry. PP: Good. Anyway, I was surrounded by these double hard bastards, real ugly motherfuckers; anyway, I show my hand and fuck my uncle if it isn’t a Royal flush. Well, I’m quid’s in. ME: Great, so you cleaned up? PP: Well sort of, I stood up to draw in the mountain of cash on the table and half the deck fell out of my sleeve. ME: Crumbs, I can imagine what your face looked like, so what did you do. PP: What? ME: What steps did you take? PP: Fucking great big ones! I shot out of there like shit off a shovel. I tell you, you couldn’t see me for dust, and I was gone man, solid gone! ME: So what happened next? PP: Well, I tried to skip the country but every port was closed, well not closed but as it turns out the people I was playing with got connections with the government and as a result there were hundreds of people at airports, sea ports whatever looking for me. I tell you, it was a bitch. I managed to lie low, cleverly disguising myself as a care worker in an animal hospital. ME: Oh, like Rolf... er, never mind. PP: That’s a lovely smile - do you want another one? I told you, no more wisecracks. No, not like Rolf fucking Harris, just a humble animal lover. Man, I gotta tell you, there’s some sick fuckers out there. Like this one time, I had to look after some penguins that came in at about two in the fucking morning or some god dam bastard hour. It’s not their fault but two in the fucking morning, for fucks sake. Anyway, they’d been used for internet porn. I mean Jesus and his rubber twat bomb! Can you believe that somewhere, in cyberspace there’s a picture of some sicko with his pr - pr - pr - prick up a penguin. Anyway, I managed to get smuggled out in a coffin. I know, but when the Devil vomits on your house you have to take the first council house outta there. Well, you know what I mean. Anyway, I took the suit from the stiff in the coffin; I thought that it was a good idea to take his suit so ME: You’re wearing a dead mans suit? PP: Yeah, so they wouldn’t recognise me, anyway, I need to hold up here for a few days, is that okay? ME: Well, err. PP: Good, [puts legs upon newly polished coffee table] ME: But I need a poem though. PP: Oh for fuck sake, don’t I get a moments rest, okay, stick this bastard up your arse: THE FACE THAT LAUNCHED A THOUSAND SHIPS - CHRISTOPHER MARLOW Was this the face that launched a thousand ships? And burnt the topless towers of Ilium? Sweet Helen, make me immortal with a kiss: Her lips suck forth my soul, see where it flies! Come Helen, come, give me my soul again. Here will I dwell, for heaven is in there lips, And all is dross that is not Helena. I will be in Paris, and for love of thee, Instead of Troy shall Wertenberg be sack’d; And I will combat with weak Menelaus, And wear thy colours on my plumed crest; Yes I will wound Achillis in the heel, And then return to Helen for a kiss. O thou art fairer than the evening air, Clad in the beauty of a thousand stars: Brighter art thou then flaming Jupiter, When he appear’d to hapless Semele; More lovely then the monarch of the sky In wanton Arethusa’s azur’d arms; And none but thou shalt be my paramour. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwng at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 13:15:34 2001 From: mwng at xxx.com (abrupt to the point of rudeness) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:15:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oops Message-ID: Oh yeah, the poetry parrot now flies off to... Robert Brennan, just because of 'that' subject line :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tompettinger at xxx.uk Thu Jun 28 13:41:24 2001 From: tompettinger at xxx.uk (Tom Pettinger) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:41:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm very, very sorry... Message-ID: <004e01c0ffcf$c536f400$d9225ad4@pbncomputer> Before Jules spills the beans, I might as well admit it... I found my way to the B&S gig in Preston. Whe-hey! it was absolutely fantastic! they did a lot of songs from fishyclap but I didn't mind because I don't have that album so it was a pleasant change. They did many others but none of you will be interested in a set list, suffice to say they did, "My girls got miraculous technique" which is a twee hum-dinger of a song, and it served to remind me that I am quite pissed off that they say it will not be on the next E.P. because it is GRATE. They were really relaxed, I think, I presume Isobel always looks that sweetly bored, and Stuart seemed to lighten up after the first few songs. Chris didn't get quite a few notes on JD but it was still nice to hear it. If anyone found it really annoying that someone in the standing section near the middle KEPT TAKING PICTURES I'm very sorry, but I wanted at least one of all the band members and Isobel kept sitting down between songs so I had to resort to taking some during the songs. All the music was really tight, apart from a mistake form the keyboard guy (I forget his name, he's on the cover of bwtas) but that was funny anyway. I'd now like to redeem myself by stating that I have not been winding you up all this time, my "previous engagement" was cancelled which I found out on wednesday morning. I contacted a sinistery in Sheffield, fixed myself a lift (thanks, Chris and Rchard, and it was nice to meet you, Katie)and reserved my ticket late afternoon, so it was all tres exciting. So now, for those of you who don't know but are afraid to ask (and I know you're out there, I was once in your position), here is some info on the merchandise you CAN'T buy over the website: T-shirts-£12-burgundy with outline of man and women in light blue. Very cool, I now have one. Blue with fluorescent pink car outline. White with fishyclap picture Mouse mat-£5-with red bubble writing B&S and sillustration style woman. Mug-around £5- same as mouse mat but green. badges-set of four-£2 Posters-set sets of 4 (if that makes sense) -£6-each set has 2 album and 2 E.P. pictures.See end of post for appeal... I'm afraid that's all I can remember but I think it covers most. There are also the shirts and patch you can get online. Brian Appleton: very funny. I saw him support himself (John Shuttleworth) and it was better then, I think he needs a slightly longer show and he also had slides etc. but the songs were still hilarious, "so we say, thankyou Brian for your contribution!" Time to go and put up my posters now, which reminds me: SINISTER APPEAL: the slightly irrate woman at the merchandise stand gave me the wrong set of posters. So if any sinisterbite could find it in their hearts to buy me the other at any other gig, I will love you forever (and also pay you back). Details: I would like the set with BWTAS, Dog on Wheels, something something something Seconds of Light and IYFS. (I was given the set with tigermilk). Please please please... someone e-mail me off list and offer, I can then ask one person who replies and not be expected to pay half the list members for the same posters. I will send a cheque for £6, the cost of postage and also a small token of my appreciation on receiving the posters.Thakyou. Bye bye, well-chuffed-corduroy-boy Tom +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 14:11:26 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:11:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: and she'll cry for you.. Message-ID: Hi Peepsters A thousand thanks for the link to the JD video - it nearly made me cry with joy/sympathy/excitement. Mainly excitement I suppose, because it makes me think of seeing B&S playing live tomorrow night - even my butterflies have butterflies about it, and everyone I know is probably sick of hearing about it, especially the ones that haven't a clue who B&S are (if you can imagine such foolishness). Anyway, it's going to be grate, and even though I didn't want to read any reviews beforehand, those that got through my gig-filter have served as fuel to the thrill. Begging content: On the subject of videos, does anyone know if there are plans for a collection of the B&S videos to be released soon/ever (?) I fear that as long as s-club are willing to dance around on beaches with their baps out etc, a B&S vid will never be broadcast to the nation. Oh the outrage. Never mind, after tomorrow I can replay the pictures in my head. Please make yourself known if you see me, Joe and Flo tomorrow night - we'll be the ones who turn up to the picnic late and look around for a bit. Of the three, I'll be the one making high-pitched squeaky noises. I'll think of you all when I can't sleep tonight, Miss Ho. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Thu Jun 28 16:17:55 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:17:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Saturday's Picnic Message-ID: The weather forecast for Saturday isn't great, hopefully it's wrong but if it's raining hows about we all go to The Cutty Sark pub instead. It's hereish: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=538927&Y=178294&A=Y&Z=1 Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Although this e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus, or other defect which might affect any computer or system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage from receipt or use thereof. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Thu Jun 28 17:00:01 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:00:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: haircut 100 Message-ID: <3B3B5481.DC61A5A3@camb.linst.ac.uk> poor old ken, i feel for him you know. ive just this miniute had my hair cut and it was scary, id rather go to the dentist any day, at least if they mess your teeth up you can just close you mouth, and i suppose you could wear a hat but thats far more obvious isnt it, unlees you talk non-stop ALL the time??? the problem that i have is that i dont know what it looks like until i put my glasses on and by that time it's too late anyway. But it all went fine this time but ive got lots of dodgy garage songs in me head. Wouldnt it be great to have an indie hairdressers that plaed sweet little tunes to calm your nerves, offer you ribena and put flowers in you hair, oh how lovely that would be. i am tres excited about tommorow and am thinking of doing another f@$$in film just for the sheer hell of it, i also feel the need to dress up a bit. you know, go a wee bit girlie, if anyone has any suggestions about how to be girlie that would be a bonus? and its true Kings of Conveinience were bliss.i wanted to put them in my pocket and run away with them, i had a go but i couldnt fit Erlans leg in and the running part proved impossible, so i carefully pulled them out, brushed them off and sent them back to the bar. They were very kind to me and told me that my pockets were the most comfortable, next time im gonna wear dungarees. oh dear this haircut seems to have removed a part of my brain that differenciates truth and fiction. anyway, i better go, morrisey is giving away some angel cake next door, i better hurry before it all gets eaten +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 16:57:40 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:57:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: No one does Gay Telese but everyone Studs Terkel Message-ID: We now interrupt these content filled messages of gigs, new singles, and staining Stuart's shoes with puddles of drool for a rambling rant from Laura Llew. If you were hoping to continue your life as a parasite continued by living vicariously off other people's belle and sebastian experiences you shall have to find another host to post. I have enough ex-boyfriends as it is. Ken Kommented: "Getting a haircut is *such* a scary thing, everytime I go I get abused by hairdressers." Some people fear going to the dentist with the scary drills and mottos of "be true to your teeth or they'll be false to you" but it's all about getting my hair cut which makes me reach for the comfort of a security blanket and Lucien the bear. I've entered enough beauty shops with hair cascading down my back for a simple trim and left with just one dejected craven curl barely long enough to touch the tip of my ear (which then starts mutters that if I'm going to start being around people who've obviously drink too much then I should start tipping the bottle as well.) This is only compounded by the social stereotype that hair dressers aren't too bright. "You know, at the beauty academy they teach us that people aren't black or white or yellow or red, but their hair can be..." Don't even bother writing me to tell about your genius friend who did nails just to earn enough money to get their Ph.D. I know your friend. They cheat. Hey - don't blame me for the generalization. I didn't start. I just perpetuate it. I personally only want the brightest of people near my head with sharp objects. Of course I get lectured for waiting too long to get my hair trimmed. It's such a traumatic experience that I put it off for as long as possible which happened to be until last Tuesday. I peeked into the "SmartCuts" place late in the evening and found a nice looking lady at the front desk. It seemed safe so I walked in and gave her my name. Next thing I know, a young girl with hair that looks as if it was schlacked with a heavy varnish comes up and says, "Oh I'll take her before I go." I won't let myself get melodramatic here but there was an escape attempt made which failed and ended with me being dragged by the scruff of my neck to *the chair*. As usual, all I wanted was a simple cut. Snip snip and that's it. Nothing fancy. I was unaware that I had stumbled upon the oracles of beauty and hair care products. The girl hadn't even pulled out the scissors yet before she starts sagaciously lecturing me with her knowledge undoubtedly founded through her long hours of toil with her hands fully immersed in some poor victim's hair while the strong fumes of the dye wafted to her brain. Evidently this young lady was abused with thinning shears at some point (by the looks of her hair she has been abused by multiple objects - both sharp and blunt - in her short life time) as she then began listing the evils of such things to me. I have naturally curly hair which if not thinned and is anywhere near the short side will give me an afro which Dolomite would turn gumby green in envy over. When I used this as my reasoning, she starts enumerating the benefits of gels and moose. Usually, I counter with the fact that I don't like the way it makes me hair feel but looking at her helmet hair - I knew this would fall upon deaf ears. If not deaf, at least well padded. (Plus, that's a lie. I'm actually just too lazy for such things. My hair is lucky if it gets brushed.) Besides verbal abuse, there is another thing which happens with regularity each time I get my hair cut. It is about the time when the hairdresser has started to section off my hair, twirl it up, and then snap a clip on it. I don't know the reasoning for it so don't ask me why. She has now meandered off into other tangents of conversations and I'm thankful for the respite. At some point, something comes up which leads to how old I am (in this case she asked me when I had graduated from high school). They stop what they're doing and look at me via the medium of the mirror. (That's another pet peeve. If anyone is going to be talking to my face in the mirror it is should be ME with my standard mantra of telling a wrinkle or blemish which is threatening to mar my face that I really do not offer the best climate for vacationing and it really doesn't want to become a permanent resident. My sister however - ooh her face is a veritable club med! Here's her address.) Helmet Head: "You're how old?" Me: *gulps & mutters* 23 Helmet Head: *stops and stares at me in the mirror* No, you don't look that old. I'm sitting there with tufts of hair sprouting all of my head like a Chia Pet (La-La-Laura). I DON'T even look human! However, I usually just confess to lying and being whatever age the hairdresser deems me and consider myself lucky to escape. Then, I talk my hair out of a stiff drink on the rocks. Laura PS - I just dare someone to randomly mention their car troubles in their otherwise content filled post. Mine just broke down and lemme just tell you about these money sucking grease thirsty mechanics.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 18:53:47 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:53:47 Subject: Sinister: FRIDAY RAH PICNIC Message-ID: Okay, I'll shut up after this one, I promise. The picnic before the RAH-gig is still on, (2pm, Albert Memorial and everything), But here's the contingency plan in case it chucks it down. There's a bandstand about 300 metres from the Albert Memorial, here: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=526250&y=179750&zoom=1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?95,20 I reckon that if it's chucking it down, we go and eat sandwiches and drink under the bandstand, because it's not like it will be cold, just a bit wet, and the bandstand will provide dryness. Good idea? But it WILL be sunny, right? Excellent. See you there. Sam.x (your chaotic picnic mummy) PS If anyone has any better suggestions, please feel free to email me soon and tell me what you think they are... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 20:13:22 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: 28 Jun 2001 15:13:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Frustrated of Fife Message-ID: <20010628191322.13568.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Samdymond at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 20:13:00 2001 From: Samdymond at xxx.com (Samdymond at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:13:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: Albert Hall Football Message-ID: <127.b3e909.286cdbbc@aol.com> Hello Sinisters, Anyone who is heading to the Royal Albert Hall picnic tomorrow afternoon, may or may not be interested to know that there is going to be something of a football match taking place in Hyde Park from 2.30 ish. Absolutely everyone and everything is welcome to play. In fact, you don't even have to play, you can just hover around the goalkeeper and talk about Half Man Half Biscuit. Thankyou and Goodnight. Go Belles!!!! Sam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sav_one at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 20:56:45 2001 From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: RAH terror Message-ID: <20010628195645.76800.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone. My friend Kerry ,who I was going to see B&S with at the RAH, can no longer go as her Mum's ill and she's gone home to look after her. This means I have a spare ticket and as my friends have poor music taste I though I'd see if any of you lot would like the it. It's in the Circle bit and you'd have to sit next to me, but if you're interested then send me an e-mail and say hello. Cheers Sav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Thu Jun 28 21:20:32 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:20:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: jonathan & david video Message-ID: <200106282020.f5SKKWj03156@mail.redbricks.org.uk> Belle & Sebastian � 'Jonathan David' Watch the video only at http://www.icrunch.com/belleandsebastian The single is already in the charts and the band have been playing live around the UK with a key sold out gig at Royal Albert Hall in London this week. Remember this is the ONLY place you can watch this video. We also have all the other B&S videos! i'm guessing this will be of interest to everyone, unfortunately i can't watch it on my computer - too crap :-( antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Cottyn at xxx.com Thu Jun 28 22:42:18 2001 From: R.Cottyn at xxx.com (Richard Cottyn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:42:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm the last of the famous... Message-ID: <004801c1001b$35728860$4c31073e@default> international playboys... i havent been online for aaaaaages-so i had loadsa lovely sinister posts to read through! summer really has started-there were 4 of us on our way to the b&s gig in preston (me, chris, tom and katie-i want sumthin for plugging your names :) ) and the sun was shining, it was really hot, the car windows were open, we had 'starburst' to eat, and we were listening to particularly 'summery' belle and sebastian songs! it was fab! it was the first b&s concert i'd been to-and i was pleasantly surprised to find that my perception of the 'typical belle and sebastian fan' was just as i imagined! highlights were definitely stuarts little jig after 'too much love' and the way everyone started clapping to 'the boy with the arab strap'-i think i worked out who all the band memebers were too-so i was quite pleased with myself! and a message to the guys...tour again v v soon! richard +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From localpeople at xxx.uk Fri Jun 29 00:02:14 2001 From: localpeople at xxx.uk (Oo and Jonny) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:02:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jonathan never really moved on like David did... Message-ID: <004b01c10026$60130120$f6ba9fac@oemcomputer> I've went to Preston last night to the strange but attractive in a 1960s brick-built kind of way Guild Hall, complete with integral car park overhead walkway that miraculously contains no winos, piss or other such nastiness - an ocean of calm in a sea of chaos as far as car parks go methinks. But hey, I guess you don't want to know that do you? B&S were GRATE, but then you didn't expect me to say any different did you? I must admit I was a little apprehensive beforehand as walking around the spacious sixth form common room type bar (it took me back, but then that shows my age - but then I don't recall my sixth form common room serving appalling beer - mind you, I could never get a seat in the common room either...) I wondered if some of the crowd would treat it like a ROCK gig, but I have to say that the audience were lovely on the whole (apart from maybe you Mr hip flask spilling, arms flailing boy in a floppy white sun hat) Was stood quite near the front, to the side with the lovely Isobel (oh, I'm sure this will set some of you off - Oo thinks her bottom has expanded, which some of you have said before, but then she would say that...) The set was quite similar to Scarborough - I wouldn't even pretend to try to recall all the songs, but Gina's Scarborough post seems right. Tonight's lovely covers were the snooker theme tune - you would know it if you heard it - well maybe not if you lived across the ocean, and a Rolling Stones song on request - I don't know its name, but it gave Belfast Bob the chance to ROCK out in his fetching Mogwai Scottish Guitar Army T-shirt. (I tried to send this post last night, but did so in an unsinisterly html type thing, not a lovely plain text manner - anyhow, if I had done so, I'd have forgotten to mention to the weird and wonderful opening cover - I knew there was something before La Pastie, but was damned if I could know what it was - it was Arrested Development's Everyday People - I remembered today and it made me smile) A wonderful wonderful occasion - maybe not as grate as the last time I saw them in Leeds far too long ago - but marvellous all the same. By the way, I finally got Jonathan David - I love it all, I must say - then again I do have a penchant for B&S songs with Jonathan or Jo(h)nny in the lyrics, as I like Slow Graffiti particularly also... I guess my fifteen minutes of fame are up... Enjoy !R!A!H! and the other dates those who are going - wishing I could be there... The boy with the slightly too tight new B&S XL t-shirt who's going to have to do some exercise and not eat sweeties - how ungrate... Jonny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Fri Jun 29 00:09:35 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:09:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Peel session guitar tabs(apologies for length) Message-ID: <42EEBAEF.6F2A2EE4.4EB512AD@netscape.net> Hey all, since no one seems to have done them and since i'm bored, lonely, and in need of something to do i decided to give figuring out the new songs on guitar a go. i'll try the single songs out later, but for now i gave the Peel session ones a try. please point out any mistakes i made (probably several) so we can get versions that are more correct and submit them to the site. apologies to all who don't play guitar for the length of the message. the lyrics have been posted, so i'll only put lyrics where they're necessary to judge timing SHOOT THE SEXUAL ATHLETE bass verse bit G-------------------------------------------------- D------4---45-------------------------------------- A---55--5------------------------------------------ E--------77---------------------------------------- chorus(?): A A/G (302220) 'Cause I'm a fan of the Go-Betweens pick the chords like so: e-----0-------0------------------------------------ B-------2------2----------------------------------- G---2--------2------------------------------------- D--2--------2-------------------------------------- A-0------------------------------------------------ E---------3---------------------------------------- verse guitar (pick chords dont strum) D D/B(x20032) Of all the stars, and all the would-be stars the riff at the end of each line is something like e-3-2-0 B-3-3-3 G-2-2-2 end on A MAGIC OF A KIND WORD no one, i think, has posted the lyrics to Magic so these are rough rough guesses F G When I think of all the sorrow, It is hard to take a breath People fighting one another F G# C And i feel there's nothing left,And i feel theres nothing left this is when it all goes mental so the chords are a bit hard to hear the C to F thing is way easier on piano, but do-able on guitar. timing's sorta tricky. C F C F C F C Hey! Cut me loose, i'm feeling fine,yea i'm feeling fine C F We're just like traffic in a big town C G You better stop you better slow down NOTHING IN THE SILENCE the isobel bits: F#m D Something set me thinking Bm E When I opened up my eyes D Dm That there was nothing there to tell me D E I'd been listening to lies F#m D But in silence there is truth Bm E There is beauty, there is love D Bm There is nothing in the silence F#m To be frightened of the sarah bits: F#m Her retreat in so few words E Is the last thing you'd expect D But there's danger in assuming Bm That she's being direct D Take a look behind her eyes E And you will see D That she knows nothing of silence Bm F#m Silence can only come from me the instrumental bit is F#m Bm E D Bm F#m (MY GIRL'S GOT) MIRACULOUS TECHNIQUE D G Oh no, the snow's stopped snowing D G D Maybe we'll get some bowling and drinking in G A And looking at the sky [the verses sometimes end on A, or something they go back to D G] CHORUS D G Take a look around you D G C G The spring has sent the sound of rain upon your windowsill A So grab your coat and play a song for me *** again, these are guesses, corrections are very very welcome. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 08:17:50 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: T-Shirt weather In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010629071750.88562.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister, Ok, to say the least i went to the lucksmiths tonight, which right now is america's best bet for twee(since B&S are not here). Something strange happened, i met one of the first indie pop fans who did not like B&S(yet loved the lucksmiths, bus stop, and sarah bands go figure). It was quite amazing, and a bit shocking. The other fairly odd thing is i keep meeting indie pop listees, but never ever a sinister listees at these shows, i look for the pins, but they are not there. Come on people where are you? am i the only person intrested in other indie pop in america on this list, at least in new england? Oh well, just a bit sad over it. i am sorry i never emailed back the person who emailed me, i got busy, and then realized i could not meet up before the show(i had to drive 2 1/2 hours, but well worth every second in boston traffic). Well the show was great, the lucksmiths are witty ausies, i highly suggest you check them out, they are downright impossible not to like(both musically and as people). I know they will make it to wherever you live soon enough, so see them play. Oh yeah, and i met a historical figure in indie, the founder of teenbeat records, who opened for the lucksmiths. Ok have a great weekend sinister Chris P. PS it is t shirt weather. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars So many days pass lost in the skyline. Some things still take my heart away and leave me weaping. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_s_leak at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 12:37:52 2001 From: chris_s_leak at xxx.com (Chris Leak) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:37:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Chas & Dave Saw Me Coming Message-ID: Hi Anyone go to the Preston Guild Hall gig? Toptastic gig but I always find the atmosphere in there a bit lacking? Perhaps it's just me. The BBC Snooker theme tune was a nice interlude and reminded me of my first single pucahse ever, yes that's right the timeless "Snooker Loopy"! Before you lynch me, I was very young at the time and I have come along in leaps and bounds ever since. Did I see any of you in the Warehouse after? I have to admit I was a tad tipsy and may well not remember, sorry about that. Anyway, for those of you going to the remaining gigs, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Cheers Leaky _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_s_leak at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 12:49:48 2001 From: chris_s_leak at xxx.com (Chris Leak) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:49:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ...and they took pictures Message-ID: ..sme again. Sorry, I forgot to mention that there are pictures from the post-gig Warehouse do at: http://www.warehousenightclub.co.uk I have now realised that yes, I was a bit drunk 'cause I don't remember any of the band being there. Having just looked at the Warehouse Website pics, it appears that they very much were. Never mind, there's always next time. Byeee Leaky _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 13:16:10 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:16:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: Hospitals are not swell. Message-ID: Hewwo, Well, I've had a less than swell last week anda a half. I've been in hospital, so I had to delete a few sinister mails. The sinister picnic was grate. Everyone was swell, and I rolled down a hill. And made americans drink ribena. And I got Jonathon David. Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It is possibly amazing. And Struan carries off his strings obsession without butchering the song, like he did with the Model. This next bit is about boring stuff that happened to me like getting put in hospital which I felt like sharing. On wednesday last, the blonde and I got jumped by the hard kids who didn't like my jacket and they beat the complete brown stuff out of us which wasn't fun. The blonde got her nose broke and ran away. Oh, and you know how i was in hospital with that thing in my stomach that they said would go away? Well, when 15 people pile in and kick you repeatedly in the stomach and general upper body it doesn't bode well for a grate recovery. Especially when bystanders stand and laugh when you collapse afterwards. But anyway they cut me open because of all the damage done and they told me about lots of gory things they found like the walls of my stomach being spattered with blood and how when I woke up the doctor said "um...we had to do some major surgery..." and I shat myself.. But now I have one ovary and a horrid cut and stuff. And everyone's making such a fuss. And jaz came through from fife and was swell and offered to kill everyone. And I can't go on holiday in july now. And I missed the Peel session i think. And I'm in rather a lot of pain. And people I hardly know all decided they were my bestest friend cause of how there was a very slight possibility that I might have died but I prolly wouldn't have and in fact I didn't. And I was hooked up to a machine with a mask and everything and it looked very impressive. And I got to tell the nurses not to let any reporters from newpapers see me. And I had a swell black eye. Though all in all it wasn't a positive experience in my life. I'm going to go now and phone people who think I'm dead. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Jun 29 16:06:53 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:06:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lights, Buoys, Fog Signals, Etc. Message-ID: <3B3C998D.867D9A35@netscapeonline.co.uk> my drawing board keeps collapsing. N wonder what with all the stuff on it. Iannis Xenakis died earlier this year and Jack Lemmon yesterday And at some point Douglas Adams. All departed. However, there are dramas closer to hand such as ... Jenowl tell me where to find those bastards and I'll kick through the tears of hate to make you safer. I'm a pacifist but on this occassion my principles can go to hell. On a lighter note there are haircuts. The Vidal no. WOULD suit you julie. Borne to it. Glance at the ghost of Louise Brookes and smile at your superiority. I really love all you people... (they disturb my working life, Laura) I think it's all just perfect and I dream and hope and sing and everything can be real and good and honest and true and once settled perhaps not so much declaimed from the rooftops as cuddled up by a fireside reading haiku, chaucer and frolicking in fancy costumes. It may still be possible, and I never loose hope. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 20:56:01 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:56:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: seagulls Message-ID: howdy since it was *my* convo that started this whole how to explode a seagull meme (c) gneissy-will i decided to make a website for it.... http://www.geocities.com/star_brite_grrl/first.html?993764739660 go and sign my guestbook or be forever damned. on a lighter note, i'm going to t in the park with The Boyfriend next weekend for muchos drinking and tent pitching hilarity. oh, and ash. ASH!!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! THEY SAVED EVERY ONE OF US! *ahem* but i've liked them since i was 11 and i've never seen them but in a week or so i will and it'll be fab and my life will be complete. they are last on my list of bands i must see, along with b&s. many hugs must be sent to jenowl. i want Gav Partick to pretend to be minder to those wankfaced hard kids that hurt her, Will Salt must whip them to death with his pigtails, honey must stamp her feet, scowl at them and i will kick the living shit out of them. and i expect you all will too. i'm going to buy a tent tomorrow. *hugs* amy xxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Fri Jun 29 21:45:31 2001 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:45:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peel Session MP3s available for download Message-ID: Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk now to download all four Peel sessions MP3s. >From the home page choose Downloads, then select the files you want to download. I have checked and all the files should download correctly. Be patient though. It may take a minute or so to connect to the actual MP3 file as these are hosted in different webspace! David White david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sat Jun 30 21:57:07 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:57:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: night of the bunjos In-Reply-To: <20010628094741.78744.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hello Sinister, I'm typing this while listening to Eminem's "Marshall Mathers LP". HMV were selling it for a fiver so I bought it in the interests of science. He's very rude. But I like 'Stan', it reminds me of 'Paint A Vulgar Picture' by The Smiths. Actually I've got bored with it and decided to listen to The Fall's "458489 A-Sides" which I also bought. The Fall rock. Hit The North! I am envious of all the people off to the RAH gig tonight, despite seeing B&S twice two weeks ago. on 28/6/01 10:47, Richard Gillanders at r_gillanders at yahoo.com wrote: > also at the weekend: I found out that a friend from my > university course has signed himself and me up to go > to the czech republic next year. for studying > purposes. it was going to be prague originally. but > now he says 'brno'. not knowing anything about that > country. I don't know if there's much difference > between the two. except, obviously, the consonant to > vowel ratio. A friend of mine lived in Brno for a while. She says it's very nice, much nicer than Prague. I think people who live in Brno or who have ever visited it prefer it to Prague. That might be because it's very nice, but it might be that second city v. capital rivalry you get in so many countries. Well, you get it in Ireland anyway. Any losers from Cork reading this? Anyway, the impression I get is that Brno is nicer to live in than Prague, whereas Prague with its strange mix of fairytale and art nouveau makes the perfect tourist destination. Brno is also cheaper than Prague, which must mean it is incredibly cheap. A little known fact is that Czech has given the English language only two words. One is pistol. The other is Bren, as in Bren Gun, a second world war machine gun former "Warlord" readers like me remember well. The Bren Gun is named after Brno where it was originally designed. Fascinating. > just now I'm reading a book called 'flatland: a > romance of many dimensions'. it's very good. and I'd > recommend it. that's the one about squares and circles who live in a two dimensional world? I keep hearing it mentioned as a metaphor for how we might interact with a fourth dimension. Tomorrow I might go see a DJ priest. There's some charity thing on here in sunny Dublin where they have loads of DJs playing for worthy causes (Simon Community and Refugee Council, I think). The priest is involved with one of the charities and happens to be be a big electro fan, so they have him spinning the wheels of steel. Can't wait. I'm kind of sad about Tove Janson dying. You know her, she created the Moomins. The BBC news site profile of her was interesting, basically as she got older she got more and more miserable, and the last Moomin book she did doesn't even have the Moomins in it, because she couldn't visualise the happy creatures anymore. That's very sad. better rock now. bless you all, the Dirty Vicar. By the way, Cork people, I don't really think you are losers. Cork is very nice. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 22:06:30 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:06:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: all tomorrow's posts. . . Message-ID: Hello All! You know what? I just got paid. This is a fact. A fully-sealed envelope was just handed to me. Sigh of relief - house payments and all, you know. How frighteningly responsible that sounds. Moving on. . . AVOIDING WORK, AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES: Well, I'm writing to you from the gothic bowels of the ASU Admin building, huddling in my corner workroom, where I'm glad to have a monstrous copy machine throwing warmth my way. They keep this place positively arctic; I sense a corporate conspiracy, here. But then, I see a conspiracy theory in nearly everything, don't I? I'll answer that. In a word, yes. This is the land of the magic bullet, after all, and I'm afraid it's left a permanent scar on my impressionable psyche. Anyway, as I was determined to do as little as possible in the way of work today, I thought I'd drop you lot a line. WARNING: ODE TO MAGNUM Our lovely Kiwi Counterpart - Mr. Lawrence Mikkelson - made his Magnum sentiments quite clear the other day, and although I concurred privately, I will publicly take a stance: I dare anyone to put together a cogent argument against the pioneering, episodic brilliance of Magnum. Look, I mean, you have a suave detective, casual humor, mystery on the homefront (Robin Masters, of course), and a fine, exotic setting as well. Self-analysis abound. As the man said, pure genius.... and I'm of the breed who subscribes to that whole concept of "Kill your TV; Read a Book".... alright, I guess that's that. Next. IF YOU CARE TO CALL IT CONTENT. . . Well, you know, everyone's kind of put their two cents (adjust currency) in for Jonathan and David, and all that, but if you must know, I quite enjoy it. For some odd reason, no matter the arrangements or the instruments or whatever other variables you can drag up, B&S just give me a funny grin, that occassionally scares small children. (One might say it's a Sinister Grin, but it won't be me). I particularly like the sweet cutting of TYCCASI. I really do. I won't say it's a return to IYFS, because that's it's own entity, but it gives me the same warm glow of, say, Stars of Track and Field. And as for TLOAMDR, well to say it's spectacular is just a vast understatement, and I will leave it at that. Again, along with some of our other vocal listees, I have never had the privilege of hearing the live version, and if that's better - I'm interested. Now, Jonathan and David, I don't know. I'm going to have to let that one sit. And I know you will all rest much easier now. (! ! wry grin) THIS REALLY TOOK ME ONLY 15 MINUTES - I'M QUICK - REALLY I so look forward to all of tomorrow's posts, because I know they will contain concert minutiae and live verbal footage. I only hope they don't have anything to do with Isobels' ass (arse, if you like), because, frankly, I'm not really interested in Isobels' ass (again, whatever you like). I think I'm the only one in the general vicinity who has her clock set to London time so that I know exactly when the show starts. Not that I do really know, mind you. It's not like I'll have a psychic vision the moment they walk onto stage or anything, although that would be nice. I just like to fantasize! Anyway, blah blah blah. I think I have a few copies to make, now. Better push off. Love Love Love S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 23:00:18 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:00:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: nevermind the bollocks Message-ID: <3A9F25943DC65D1168D50005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> it's funny that of the ten films playing on the plane from london today, one of them was a sex pistols documentary and another was sid and nancy. i think i was the sole person on the plane who watched either of them...definitely the sole person who watched both. here is a sad story: i have spent the past month rambling about in europe, and i thought it might be nice to keep some sort of journal of my travels. i am, for some reason, still working toward an art degree, so i bought a brand-new sketchbook before i left and spent a good deal of time filling it up...drawing the angels in florence and turning them into strumpets, things like that. it wasn't a very good sketchbook, but it was full of funny little drawings and a number of songs. one morning in amsterdam, aimee and i woke to find a dear irish boy crying in our room. we took him out for pancakes and ended up having a grand time with him, running around amsterdam and giggling at all of the cute boys. i found out later that not only was he absolutely lovely, but he was a sinister fellow. needless to say, i was having a ball, and on my birthday he wrote a pretty poem in my sketchbook. i think that the poem was the only pretty thing that has ever been in any of my sketchbooks, so i was very happy. i had to leave the next morning for london, and as soon as i arrived there i went to use the telephone...set my beloved sketchbook (now complete with birthday poem) on the little ledge by the phone and leaned down to get my change...and when i stood up, my sketchbook was gone. i don't know what sort of monster would up and steal a sketchbook, but it made me cry. i bought a new one, but it's empty and even when i fill it up, it won't have any pretty poems in it. the world is scary. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Fri Jun 29 23:53:35 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:53:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: do something risky while you can Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010629234133.03302358@shell12.ba.best.com> one highlight of the RAH show: stuart throwing his precious hollow-body guitar in the air and wondering if he would catch it... ah, for those who caught that fear in his eyes for that brief second and the full-on calculation of the spin, plummet-rate. wonderful, how full of emotion the human soul can be. even more loved than a car, for that instant. second bit i appreciated: lazy line painter jane. complete with originals vocals. that woman has one *fine* voice. sinisterine fame: one sinister member sang on stage w/stuart. and yelled out 'SINISTER!' quite clearly and had a nice voice to boot. fess up - who got the honors? also, her friend danced with stuart and may have gotten a thrill himself... from head to toe: isobel's jim belushi(?) full-length. nice dress. one head fully lain across one nice body. it hung just right. closer under cover: 'everday people' cover was done ever so nicely. much better than the car adverts. was that geddes' voice that was so tuneful, on-key, and full of timbre? quite a nice little shift of roles to close up shop. on the undressy gnoll: picnic footie - monsieur murdoch booting shirtless. ah, what will the tabloids make of ye, heathen? i tire. i'm still sauced. my feet ache, my eyes are bloodshot, yet i'm still in good spirits. senor droolcup [ sold in finer establishments everywhere ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sat Jun 30 11:04:27 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:04:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Mighty RAH! Message-ID: The RAH was indeed mighty and marvellous. For a start it's great venue and I now expect nothing less from any band passing through London. It was fairly awe inspiring to turn around (I was standing at the front) to see rows of people dancing the night away. Isobel's lovely dress featured the visage of Bob Dylan. Though if you were standing too far away to see it properly it looked like Belushi apparabtly. Dylan links in to- someone shouting "Judas" in the same way someone did in 1966 to Dylan when he played Manchester (though for some reason it has always been credited as happening at the RAH). In response to this Stevie did a not overly kind impression of Dylans' "I can't hear you" response. The songs were all great and yes, the cover of Everyday People at the end was unexpected. Actually I thought Theres Too Much Love was a bit weak. But then again I thought it was weak in Glasgow. Maybe they played it too early? Seeing one of the Sinister girls get on stage to sing The State I Am In was marvellous. Not sure who it was because I failed to make any of the pre-gig meet ups due top work but she sure can sing, dance and look pretty on stage. And even cajoled Stu into singing a bit of it. He couldn't remember the words too well. The was also an instrumental of Europe's "the Final Countdown" which is all you can really ask for. Oh, that and Monica Queen coming on to do a rocktastic LLPJ that reminded me of the Velvet Underground before Lou Reed decided to go shit. They were Rock and Roll. One last thing- i am sure the adverts said it was sold out weeks ago but there did seem to be quite a few empty seats right at the top. Maybe some people got a better offer or accidentally joined the not inconsiderable queue of old ladies who were about to camp with tents and everything so they could purchase Daniel O'Donnell tickets this morning? Paul _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinister at xxx.com Sat Jun 30 12:13:07 2001 From: sinister at xxx.com (John Jennings) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:13:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Not RAH, but Birmingham.... and stuff..... Message-ID: <3B3DB443.2060003@london.com> Roight yes good morning. *Birmingham* OK well i'm sure theres lots of people sat reading their sinister posts with some vague unhappiness that everyone is having so much fun at all their gigs, but they themselves, like me, have tickets for Birmingham which it seems has been somewhat abandoned by the higher forces within Sinister. I know there wasn't going to be any sinister meet-up before the birmingham gig, but i'm afraid (this is me being threatening, please play along) that i'm not going to take no for an answer. i've got a map of birmingham in my hands now, not a proper map you understand, but one of those hand-drawn ones that shows all the buildings and tells you where the local branches of boots and m&s are.... let see... theres a massive field about half a mile away from new street station ('public open space' it calls it')... thats about it actually... not many parks in birmingham.... theres a few grassy places.... theres the cathedral if we feel like meeting up by a gravestone... ugh... also theres that place with the fountains and loads of stairs which i vaguely remember from when i was last in birmingham. any ideas people? *Leicester* Picnic on sunday right? erm...tomorrow in fact... James i was going to phone you but i've lost your number... again... i will take the guitar but i canna play it at all really... i'm guessing someone will be able to though... i have the fishyclap songbook so i guess we'll be fine.... Ok well thats it... That probably took me 15 minutes... probably... John. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iaradcliffe at xxx.com Sat Jun 30 18:19:10 2001 From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:19:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jonathan David chords (apologies for "length") Message-ID: Hello, I was plinking at my pianner the other day and tried to play along to Jonathan David. I got a little carried away and ended up trying to figure out the whole song, so here's my stab at it which I also sent to Damon for the sinister pages. Hope it's vaguely (sp?) correct. I altho bought the stwokth thingle. It'th exthellent and rockth veritably! Oh shit, I've turned into Toyah Wilcocth. Help! Phew, that was both frightening AND unfunny. If anyone's going to T in the Park and wants to "hang", then please let me know. My colleague Dave was going to get our free office ticket which I used last year. Unfortunately he broke his foot while we were playing some schoolkids at football the other day. He tackled a wee fat boy and came off worse. So now I'll have to go in his place. Alas. Somebody asked if anyone had read Zadie Smith? I read White Teeth last week and my detailed textual analysis is that it's "fuckin' grate, phenomenal". I'm such a good critic. I heard the Stereochronics latest effort for the "n"th time today (Have A Niiiice Daaay). I'd like to do a minimalist critique of it which would simply read: "Hellish". Anyway, here's Jonathan David. Thanks to all the nice people who I spoke to in glasgow and the other lovelies that I was too shy/hungover to converse with. Iain x JONATHAN DAVID Intro: G, Fdim, Am, Fdim, Am, A7, D. G Fdim Am Fdim Am I know you like her, well I like her too, I know she likes you, A7 D G It�s not as if I�m being sent off to war, C D There are worse things in this world, Gm C Am There�s no room on my wooden horse for two, D I was Jonathan to your David, Gm You�re still King. G Fdim Am Fdim Am Well, I�d thought about her, I dreamed she�d come, I�d made my escape, A7 D G I thought she liked me but somehow I was wrong, C D I know you don�t want it this way, G But it�s OK. Fdim E E7 F It�s not like we�ll be parted, it�s not like we�ll never know love. C F C And she�ll smile for you, she�ll hold your hand, F Am D7 You�ll be in love, there�s no other way, Gm C And I will make it some day. (Subsequent verses/choruses follow the chords above!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Sat Jun 30 21:00:23 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:00:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Take Your Carriage Chords and Shove them Message-ID: <683275B3.4B7CCC58.4EB512AD@netscape.net> Hey all With this one and with Iain's fabulous Jonathan David transcription we have all the new recorded songs (i haven't heard the ones they played at the gigs nor do i have the chance to), plus there's already a good version of Loneliness... at sinister already. TAKE YOUR CARRIAGE CLOCK AND SHOVE IT you might be better off tuning your guitar half a step down and moving all these chords up accordingly, but this works fine. Intro F# C# F# C# F# A#m G# C# G# F# C# In the boardroom the quiet man takes a second to think what to do F# C# A# He's sat on his desk and he's starting to speak and he hears his own voice Keep doing that, it only changes sometimes when it starts on a minor: A#m G# Honour forbids me but honour be damned F# C# You have worked till you got you want F# C# G# I did the work and when things were going badly you left us to rot hugs and luvv Mike K __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mollerenshaw at xxx.uk Sat Jun 30 23:41:35 2001 From: mollerenshaw at xxx.uk (mollerenshaw at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:41:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: We all laughed and clapped our hands Message-ID: Hello all, I am still trying to recover, a) from seeing Struan and pals live, in the flesh, for real, less than 100 metres from my distant, distant circle seat at the RAH, b) from my seething jealousy of all those who managed to get into the standing area down at the front, (and more so of those who managed to meet them at various other gigs) and c) from my disappointment at missing the meetup before hand. Grrrrrrrrrrr. Nonetheless I was first into the bar on our level (alcoholic? me?), and managed to pick up a rather nifty set of badges from the cawkney merchandisers, and the posters. Oooh, the posters. Not quite up to the Tigermilk poster I saw in a club once (man sized, although not particularly man shaped), but they'll do :) I would also like to take this opportunity to apologise to the Irish girl sitting next to me (Circle row 2, X block, seat 110ish) should she receive Sinister for my friend's loud and very poor imitation Irish accent. She meant no harm, and was mimicing the guy on the door, not you. She is suitably embarassed... I was wondering whether anyone who was down the front at the very start (7.30 - 8ish) could shed some light on the first support act - they did an _interesting_ cover of Legal Man, albeit without singing. We suspected a bunch of band members arsing around for the over-enthusiastic people that arrived early, but couldn't see anyone properly (due to what looked like comical Harry Enfield scouser wigs), only hear Scots accents. Again, we couldn't make out what they said when they explained themselves due to the terrible accoustics... Oh, and Lazy Line Painter Jane. Woooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww. Wow. I'm going to stop now, before I get carried away... Anyway, I hope everyone with gigs to come has fun :*) Bye bye, Mark O +----------------------------------------+ | http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~mjo199/ | |"Go to bed; brush your teeth; but don't | |bother cutting your ears off" | |-Ray in the Rattle & Hum, Cheltenham | +----------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+