Sinister: Beyond the Sunrise, Darker Than Thou, and the Fall of Western Civilization

[Karren Gill]

hello everyone!

this is my first post.  i have been given a "voice" on sinister so i can
finally join in the fun!

in response to jason's post:  come to think of it, the English are almost
single handedly responsible for totally fucking up cultures and people of
all races.  as are the french and portugese.  its funny how they thought in
those days they were doing their colonies a favour by making them more
"civilized"....what did they know about being civilized...and i think its
the most ironic thing in the world that the Brits complain about
immigration, especially from their former colonies...like what the fuck do
you expect?  they messed these peoples' lifestyle in the first place because
of imperialist greed.  they would not have to suffer economically and
politically if the british hadn't colonized them, stealing their wealth and
overriding their culture, imposing their institutions upon
them....ooooooooooo, i just get sooooooooo pissed off sometimes!!!!!!  the
world will never make any sense.

ok, i just had to get that off my chest. yeah, so this had nothing
whatsoever to do with belle and sebastian....well, maybe next time.

karren

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason McKinnon" <megatherion5 at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: March 16, 2001 12:14 PM
Subject: Sinister: Beyond the Sunrise, Darker Than Thou, and the Fall of
Western Civilization


> Hello Fellow Denizens of the Sinistraad!
>
> Greetings from the Land of Fruits and Nuts (CALIFORNIA),
>
> Let me tell you, one tends to fall asleep driving to New York from here.
The
> European equivalent trying to drive to Velocity's house (Greece) from
> Croydon.
>
> Any-frickin-hoo, all this talk about Beyond the Sunrise brought up a gripe
> (here he goes again...jeez). Does anyone notice the pronounced finger
squeak
> on the acoustic guitar part. It's all "Joseph was (squeak) traveling
> (squeak)...."
>
> Man, oh man, is that ever annoying!
>
> That guitar is crying out in a voice not unsimilar to Groundskeeper Willie
> (the Jar-Jar Binks of the Simpsons)"Grease me down, Woman!"
>
> Speaking of which....
>
> Why is everything cheap (in America) described as Scottish?
>
> 1)scotch tape
> 2)Scottish Inns
> 3) MacFrugal's (i swear there is a chain store called that here)
>
> Lotsa subtle racism.........
>
> Here's more food for thought:
>
> Even as a youngster growing up in a small southern town...I noticed that
> people with Celtic Backgrounds were treated differently. Most of those
slave
> owners we all love to hate are English in origin. The poor tenant farmers
> who worked their lands were generally Irish and Scottish. In the slow
moving
> South, this attitude of Celts being poor white trash is slow to erode, and
> even persists today exploited on shows like Jerry Springer.
>
> Another fact:
>
> In New Orleans, the dirtiest, scummiest part of town was and still is
called
> the Irish Quarter.
>
> In America:
>
> If you look white, you are white (i.e. anglo-saxon).
> Whatever white is....
>
> Are french people not latin?
>
> Not in the US. Mexicans who are more than half Native American are
> considered more latin.
>
> Are Italian people Latin?
>
> Not in the US.
>
> Look at it like this....
>
> There are people from India who are way darker that any African-Americans
I
> grew up with.
>
> What about the micronesians? Aborigines?
>
>
>
> Giving you questions for all your Answers since 1975,
>
> The Pickle Prince
>
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