From areservoirdog at xxx.com Tue May 1 00:15:46 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (M. Timothy Meskers) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:15:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Adventures at K-town Uni Message-ID: This post has only got minor Belle & Sebastian content. On the B&S Content Scale I would give it around a four, probably. And that may be generous. This post is probably best summed up in the following sentence, if you're in a hurry. I went to Kutztown to visit my friend Ryan and check out the campus. Day 1. The first day was swell, I was tired from driving up there but there was a festival outside. Bear Day, or something. I got a strawberry milkshake, which was nice. I walked around the campus and thought what a beautiful day it was. Then we hung about the dorms, until Ryan had to go home to see his sister's play. That was fine though; 'cause I had other friends there. And I would make other friends to boot. There was this fellow named Woody that really amused me. He always walked around with his hands down his pants. So did Lem. I wondered if it was Kutztown tradition. Apparently there had been some sort of party the night before that had gotten busted and there was a bit of a buzz from that. We went out to play mini-golf. I got third place, which was pretty good for me. I am hardly an avid mini-golf player so it came to me as quite a surprise that I actually got a hole in one on hole thirteen. I was proud. Although I didn't want to cheer or anything like that, because I didn't know these people too terribly well and when I tried to talk around them I got a bit shaky and flushed so I didn't do it too much. I just watched them. They may have been a bit unnerved by all the watching that I was doing and the small amount of talking. After mini-golf we went to a lovely record store called the Young Ones. There used to be a Young Ones near me but it got shut down. There is no correlation between the two stores. So, I found the Lost Patrol import that I'd been searching for high and low so I was excited about that. I was wearing a Weezer hoodie and got to talking to the girl behind the counter about Weezer for awhile. She'd seen them too. She was very friendly but I felt bad about talking to her because I didn't want to harass her while she was working, even though she initiated the conversation. What a nice store. I forget what we did after Young Ones. I may have taken a nap. I tossed my sleeping bag on the floor that night and tried to sleep. I think I had a conversation with Ryan after he returned from his sister's play around midnight but I was half-asleep. If I did don't worry about it; it can't have been that interesting. Day 2. So, I was needing a shave. But I forgot my razor. I should've shaved before I left, I thought. Eh. I went to Six Flags with the rest of the dorm and rode some rides. I said a lot of nothing to the people I went with even though I thought they were exciting. When we got home I met some more interesting people. I felt really bad for one girl in particular. She said her cramps were unusually painful this time around. She thought that her ovary had exploded. I said ouch, and I hope you feel better. Because I really didn't know what to say to that. Later that night I went across and played chess with some people that I didn't know at all. They were high but they still beat me. Lucky, that's what they were. Back in the day I was quite the frequent chess player. Although I think I lost a fair amount back in the day, as well. A girl in one of the upper dorms said that she had an empty room that I could sleep in but I didn't want to impose. I slept in Ryan's bed instead of on the floor. He was up until 4:15 working on a project for the next morning's class. Day 3. I pitched on some generic clothes. I was excited because today we went to class. I was very keen on this idea of going to class because I could meet new people. Ryan told me that there was a girl in the class that was wearing a Belle & Sebastian shirt and that I should talk to her and her friends because he knew that B&S were my favorite band. I thought it sounded like a great idea. So we got to class and I was keen on sharpening my social skills and making new friends. Although when I thought about talking, I got shaky and flushed, just like on the mini-golf course. Sometimes I'm worried that when I talk to people that they'll think that I'm making passes at them. I didn't want the girl to think that at all, since I really had no basis for conversation other than that Ryan said she had a b&s shirt. We went to the library to find pictures of grasshoppers and the girl was there. Her and Ryan made funny insect poses and I laughed. She seemed like she would be fun to talk to but I still didn't say anything. I was unshaven and a bit disheveled from my late night. She may have thought that I was a child molester. We found some grasshopper pictures and went for coffee. On the way back to the dorm from coffee we passed the girl but I didn't say anything again because I didn't want her to think I was hitting on her. At lunch I made a mess of the waffleiron and felt a bit bad for the lunchladies. We went to Young Ones again and I bought Up A Tree, which is what I listened to while waiting on a parkbench outside the dorm for my mother. Everyone was really friendly to me, although I have to admit that I regret not talking to a lot of interesting people. I'll go back soon though, and I recommend that everyone go there as well. It's just a nice campus. Respectfully, Timothy. p.s. Sorry for using the mailing list as a diary. Just thought that someone may be excited by my fun stories. p.p.s. Also sorry if anyone is reading this that I talked to oncampus. I was a bit of a tag-a-long. E-mail me if you'd like and tell me about your uni adventures. xoxo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue May 1 04:46:31 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:46:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Fifty ways to love your leaver Message-ID: <005701c0d1f1$507d8220$7dd656d1@pavilion> Big news: i FINALLY saw someone wearing a Belle & Sebastian tee-shirt today!! My Vespa club was on our monday ride, and coming down state street, there was this bald guy, and my eyes clicked upon his blue shirt with a big red "&" on the front. I slowed down, pointed to the badge on my backpack strap, and yelled "BELLE AND SEBASTIAN!!!" at him. Well, what would YOU have yelled? He just smiled, but didn't seem to realize the odd synchronicity. Maybe he's from LA or something. But there's NO b&s fans in Santa Barbara, so it was quite a moment for me. Speaking of LA, what ever became of the blossoming meetup there? Jennifer Juniper first suggested it, and i emailed her some ideas, and i never heard another word. Maybe we could meet at Griffith Park Observatory, or Hollywood Forever Cemetery (at the grave of Rudolph Valentino)? We should time it to coincide with the release of the new single, and swear to each-other not to listen to it until our picnic, when we could have a listening ceremony. And do you mean to tell me, Timothy, that you went to K-Town without looking up (the dress of) our lovely List Dom Lisa? I'm sure she's already scolded you for that. She doesn't like to let young Sinister boys slip through the cracks. Oh wait, yes she does. And i brought my digital camera to my local bar last weekend. If you're bored, take a look. And if you're not bored, well, you will be: www.brier2.homestead.com/Elsies1.html And if you haven't listened to Death Cab For Cutie, please do so with all speed. These days i remain, Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Tue May 1 07:21:23 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:21:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Like a sheaf of wheat at the foot of the Altar. . . my humble offering. Message-ID: Hello All. I've nothing of any importance to say, but indulge me if you will. If you won't, kindly hit delete now and save yourselves. For those kind souls who read on. . . <> How I agree! I have been dipping in my Nick collection lately, myself, and 'From the Morning' remains my absolute favorite accoustic. That biography (and I assume we're talking Paul Humphries?) is quite good, making much out of very little information. What an enigma, that Mr. Drake. I'm listening right now, as a matter of fact, to his home-recorded version of "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright," which is spectacular, and much better, in my warped opinion, than Dylans. Anyway. . . on to less important things. No, really. I have no wit left tonight; this is it. I've been watching this little spider do some work on her web; every night she comes out and weaves more silk around her little sack of goods, which is suspended right in the middle. I can't bring myself to ruin her little home, even though I know if I don't, her sack of goods will yield hundreds of new little spiders. I don't think we have room for all of them, do you? No. I think not. I suppose I'll have to take her down. I hope I don't sound too Twee (although stereotypes make me quite ill), but I keep thinking about Charlotte's Web. Remember, with Wilbur and all the other fun farm animals? Yeah, well, I also consider the Buddhist philosophy that every creature has a place, an innate right to life, as do we. I've always had a bent in that direction. I don't (can't) kill anything, and I cringe when I find butterflies baked into the grill of my jeep. It's just not a pleasant world for the small creatures, is it? Not with all of our little machines racing around in their airspace (or groundspace, considering coyotes, javelinas, skunks, elk and the like), or in a spiders case, mine for instance, the end of a broomstick. Hell, I cringe at Jurassic Park II, when the hunters are trying to rope in that one little 'saur. I have no stomach for animals (yes, even computer generated ones) getting trapped, hunted or annihilated, TV included. Oddly enough, and no offense of course, I have no problem with people killing each other. That's their own problem (er. . . I mean our problem). Well enough of that. See how smoking outside the house is more entertaining than using the Smoking Lounge inside? Even as we watch, the horizon expands. Nod and smile. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. with much sinister affection, Shannon ps. . . Hannah, I too am synesthetic, though with color, rather than smell. I'll mail you about it, rather than bore EVERYONE. Even more. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Tue May 1 09:41:32 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:41:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: i know what you did last year Message-ID: <20010501084132.4088.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> hello you sinister looking people. i was sitting in the common room at my school the other day and i happend to have a copy of tbwtas. i was playing this when a girl i knew came in and started listning. when she heard track 9 she exlaimed "thats the theme from teachers" imediatly she was infactuated with belle and sebastian and all they had done, but she kept repeating track 9, refusing to listen to any other track on the album she asked me if i could lend her all the other belle and sebastian releases i had, i said yes but thought what use is it if all she listens to is one song and cant be botherd to listen to any of the others on even the same album, let alone the other cd's, did i really want to let this one track wonder of a fan be in the belle and sebastian club?. but then she looked up and said "thats fuckin brilliant". i then thought, i then thought, if belle and sebastian can make somone feel happy by playing one song, then what difference does that make from playing tons of songs? i leant her the albums ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Tue May 1 14:27:26 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:27:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I love the city Message-ID: Hi children who seen Hefner on Saturday. The 13th note was a pretty scary place, all dank and atmospheric but it was a really good venue for the gig. There was a brief rumor that Struan was at the gig but i was right at the front and it didn't look much like him. The support act Camera Obscura sounded similar to B&S and were actually pretty good. Darren Hayman was his usual amazing Henman-esque self. It amazes me that after so long he still gets extremely excited when fans sing along. He actually looked totally shocked when he stopped during the hymn for the alcohol and the fans voice carried the song. I dont think iv ever seen a musician so happy or as shocked as him at that moment. It was actually pretty touching. Hmmm what else, one of my friends who was at the gig gave Ant a mcdonalds furby for his birthday and he sat it on top of his drums when he played. It was pretty cool actually, just can't wait to B&S now, getting tickets for both days if they're still available. Peace, Love, Empathy Danny xxxxx P.S can anyone e-mail me with the name of Baxendale albums because its hard enough to find albums by obscure bands in Glasgow but it's even harder when i don't know the name of their album. Thanks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From howied41 at xxx.com Tue May 1 16:25:14 2001 From: howied41 at xxx.com (David Howie) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:25:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And the girl with colitis goes by...Lucy and this guy eat ions... Message-ID: Note: I actually know Danny in �real life�; and this is not a sherricking merely a gentle chiding welcome to Sinister. Well, since the list-mummy is conspicuous by her/his (not had this much fun since Dana International) absence, the lovely Katarina Karlson has offered to design me a �Sinister Junior Reporter��s t-shirt (that�s a medium, mind). As regards the boys from Hefner, I do wonder what songs they played: I would be intrigued and greatly indebted if anyone (even you, Mr Farrell) would furnish me with a set-list. As for the 13th note being a �pretty scary place�, I think he probably means �imposing imbibing-hole imbued with drama and accentuated by history� which sounds a lot worse than a �pretty scary place�. I would reckon that the chance of seeing Stuart at the aforesaid gig would have been pretty high. The 13th note is meant to be (we can only go on rumour) a favourite place of Stuart�s; couple that with the fact that he is now producing Camera Obscura and we have 9 to 2 odds. (Incidentally, the new Progwai Album, Rock Action, has Sleazy�s on the cover). Camera Obscura sound similar to B&S? What in that they are Scottish? I need more description. In what way do they sound like the Belles (the Belles�) Darren Hayman is a pretty nice guy. I got talking to him at the gig at the Garage in October and he signed my copy of Ant�s solo EP. They were all very welcoming and all of them happily signed the CD. You gotta love �em. �We will laugh�� Hehe. McDonalds? Ahhhh� Blaspheme. Teehee. Well, went to see �Songs from the 2nd Floor� on Sunday. Very nice to look at in parts; laced with some great social commentary (there�s a scene where the economics advisors to a company are all sitting round a big desk and they�re passing round a crystal ball. Teehee. Just me again, then, eh?) I guess it has a pretty strong message to give �Blessed is the one who sits down�. That is, take a rest, get your head clear don�t try to do everything at the same time as everyone else, you�ll only stunt your life, you�ll get a lot further by actually thinking; enforced sacrifices blah blah blah. Oh well, as for Baxendale�s albums. Well, Helen�s actually got a rather vast repertoire but for maximum irritating-public school-girl quotient go for 1997�s �Eton Trifles�. Err. I mean. Seriously, try www.musicforgirls.co.uk. Or even, here�s a novel idea, try one of this city�s many wondrous music shops (I counted 8 just a minute ago). I�m sure you�ll be able to find them quite easily. Quite why you�d want to I�m not sure� Anyways, lectures n�all that. Grease, Doves, Colostomy David (Castlemaine) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed May 2 00:36:51 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:36:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Jonathan David Message-ID: <3AEE75A2.4257.14A71AA@localhost> Geri Halliwell was on This Morning today relating her horrible experience when someone broke into her home and spurted Ribena all over it. Really, whoever it was, this Ribena obsession has gone beyond a joke, give yourself up now. The poor girl's looking terribly thin. Rumour has it, her new song "It's raining men" is a hasty rewrite of a song written shortly after the incident called "It's the Ribena men". The rewrite was necessary as the original was deemed "corrupting" and police were worried it might provoke copycat incidents. Unfortunately this means the song now sounds like a bag of tired old shite. And later on, Jeepster said this... "Record News Belle & Sebastian return with the first of two new EPs, entitled 'Jonathan David', on June 18th 2001. It includes three previously unreleased tracks, 'Jonathan David', 'Take Your Carriage Clock an Shove It' and live favourite 'The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner'. The single will be available on CD (JPRCDS022), 12" (JPR12022) and 7" (JPR7022) formats, the asterix (*) denotes the tracks that appear on the 7", all other formats feature all of the tracks. The artwork for the record features Mick Cooke of Belle & Sebastian. 1.Jonathan David* 2.Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It 3.The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner* 'Jonathan David' is the first new material to be released by Belle & Sebastian since last year's Top 10 single 'Legal Man' and the critically acclaimed album 'Fold your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant' which followed. Vocal duties on the lead track fall to Stevie Jackson and it is hoped that this release will command the same radio and press support as 'Legal Man' which achieved daytime as well as specialist play and a 'C' list placing at Radio 1 and an 'B' list at Xfm. The band are already confirmed to record a live session for John Peel on May 11th, broadcast details are not yet known." Hooray! Robin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue May 1 18:06:43 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: radio k is the gem of the AM dial.... Message-ID: <20010501170643.3568.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> i'm sitting here on my lunchy break listening to the radio and they are playing "dylan in the movies" its making me so happy. i was having a horrible morning. everyone here in my office is in a horrible bad mood. i dont know why, but i'm sure it involves alot of failed sexual affairs. either that or possibly that bad pork they ate last night. i just hate having to deal with it. but, hearing b&s does brighten my mood exquisitely. and they played lemon jelly earlier! i still havent gotten the album, but they've been playing it alot on the radio and i love it. on another note: last night i'm sitting at my desk writing & drinking scotch, when my seven year old sister comes tearing into the room screaming "caleb! caleb! come quick! you have to hear this! hurry!" so i run after her to the tv, where they are having a public service commercial about drugs using "mondo '77" as a soundtrack. my sister keeps jumping up and down screaming, "its looper! its looper! on tv! i can't believe it! they are playing your kind of music!" i think she got way more excited about it then i did, though it did make me very happy. what does the following tell you all about me?: directly in front of me on my desk i have : a hanging kandinsky calendar a pinned-up postcard of an edward hopper painting a picture of morrissey two new order postcards, one blue monday, one everythings gone green a bookmark with a detail of "the young girl (the virgin) by gustav klimt a copy of the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures a copy of memoirs by pablo neruda a copy of GQ magazine three empty red bull cans alot of post-it notes and pens laying around ??? anyway ttfn caleb ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Tue May 1 18:06:25 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:06:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New Single Message-ID: <017f01c0d261$0f7413a0$58d0fc3e@neil> Belle & Sebastian are happy to announce the release of their new single "Jonathan David", on Jeepster Recordings on the 18th of June. "Jonathan David" is released on 7", 12" and CD, and is backed by "Take Your Carriage Clock And Shove It" and "The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner". +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Tue May 1 23:56:29 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: They Ought To Barricade Regent Street Message-ID: <20010501225629.7816.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> It's the 1st of May. May Day, in fact. I thought someone should say something. Ignoring Ken's advice I went to Oxford Circus to see the clowns and the riot police. The acoustic field. The air bass of helicopters. The whistles. The chorus of cries every 5 minutes. The incomprehensible megaphones. The altered sense of urban space. The rare emptiness of Oxford Street. The shops so flagrant and welcoming, so seductive and overpriced, for once barred and boarded. The cloudy sky over Regent Street's elegant facades. It dawned on me that they *had* barricaded it. There were a lot of police. How many? Yes, that many. I don't know yet whether the system has been brought down. If you hear anything overnight, let me know via the usual tunnels. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Wed May 2 02:16:16 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:16:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: They Ought To Barricade Regent Street References: <20010501225629.7816.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c201c0d2a5$7f3217c0$6501a8c0@pavilion> now, i haven't the foggiest what this is all about, having only heard talk about "avoiding central london" today (though now it seems like that *was* a good plan), but i'd like to ask: where were the police when i was getting mugged by a northern guy who was supposedly a junkie desperate for a fix and was about to "fookin' stab" me after trying to dig through my pockets? i mean, i didn't need *lots*......just one! :) (though the met did leave that very helpful sign next to the curb/kerb "warning! thieves operate in this area" "wow, they were right!") maybe they only go there during the day and then hang out around parliament at night, ignoring tourists who ask for directions to bloomsbury. oh those wacky bobbies! jay "why don't you hate who i hate?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "P F" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Sinister: They Ought To Barricade Regent Street > > It's the 1st of May. May Day, in fact. I thought > someone should say something. > > Ignoring Ken's advice I went to Oxford Circus to see > the clowns and the riot police. > > The acoustic field. The air bass of helicopters. The > whistles. The chorus of cries every 5 minutes. The > incomprehensible megaphones. > > The altered sense of urban space. The rare emptiness > of Oxford Street. The shops so flagrant and welcoming, > so seductive and overpriced, for once barred and > boarded. > The cloudy sky over Regent Street's elegant facades. > It dawned on me that they *had* barricaded it. > > There were a lot of police. How many? Yes, that many. > > I don't know yet whether the system has been brought > down. If you hear anything overnight, let me know via > the usual tunnels. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belle1974 at xxx.com Wed May 2 05:52:20 2001 From: belle1974 at xxx.com (Jennifer Juniper) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: last call for those interested in helping to plan LA meet up! Message-ID: <20010502045220.60380.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> okay, as brier so kindly pointed out, YES i did bring up the idea of having a meet up in the los angeles area. i got some responses, but i have continued waiting to see if there were any more people interested before i started a small forwarding list to those available for meeting up in the la area at the end of may. i got a lot of suggestions and they are all quite different, so we are going to have to come to some sort of consensus on the matter. sooo... basically this is a last call for those interested in meeting up over memorial day weekend at the end of may! i truly don't want to wait until june because the weather gets too hot, and i think we can talk about the impending single without waiting for it to acutally come out. SO please e-mail all ideas to belle1974 at yahoo.com the forwarding e-mail mini list will start in the next few days! :o) cheerios! jennifer juniper __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed May 2 11:08:19 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:08:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigersniffing - the (slight) return Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2201ADA259@SERVER1> Hello everyone in and around London, Well. I've (almost) organised another Tigermilking. Bet that's surprised you... I have a couple of questions - does anyone hear go to (or indeed run!) the Silver Rocket Club Upstairs at the Garage? If so, could they mail me off list and let me know what it's like? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed May 2 12:32:00 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:32:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilking - this time it's actually happening Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2201ADA269@SERVER1> (deep breath) Right, I hope this is okay with everyone, but... TIGERMILKING, May 5th (this Saturday!), after the Primrose Hill Picnic - downstairs at Bar Oporto (corner of High Holborn/Endell Street), Covent Garden. £4;£3 concessions and picnickers :-). Goes on until midnight. I'll send a proper post (directions etc.) when all the details are finalised! Mark (very excited) xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Wed May 2 19:54:28 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:54:28 0000 Subject: Sinister: That's not writing, it's typing. Message-ID: Hello, won't say much about all exciting news since we're all obviously chuffed except ( weeeeee!! glasgow june 16th here i come ). hmm. breathe. It'll be my first trip to glasgow as well. Disgusting behaviour for a B+S obsessive I know, I should be camped outside 13th note with an acoustic guitar waiting to seranade struan. And I would. If i wasn't so weak, and if i didn't think my bum would get cold sat on the floor all winter. Still I think I'm applying for glasgow uni, so that should make up for my past sins. Do you think it's wrong to choose a university solely on the basis of its music scene? it's just I know I'd be miserable anywhere where I didn't have a plentiful supply of tickets on my noticeboard. I went to a ucas conference and tried to concentrate on course content, but images of a life in one of those universities that aren't even called after a town were just too depressing :( Maybe I should wait until B+S announce there full tour and only consider places they have give their official approval to. That's probably taking it too far actually. I don't reckon Dunoon has a university. I am glad B+S are releasing their carriage clock song. Carriage clocks are always given away with financial products for the over sixtys. I always find that a bit odd. When you're so near death you need to ensure your life I very much doubt a gold plated carriage clock, however elegant or exclusive is going to cheer you up. Maybe that's me being young and naive, but working at a nursing home makes you realise that being old is not a golden autumn of life but a cold and very slobbery winter. nice. ooh. one last thing. Isn't the reading/leeds festival line-up looking nice. For a corporate sell out thing..At least there's not too much nu-metal type stuff on the bill yet. Last year I kept thinking I was going to die the number of grim reaper hoodies around the place. Still, marilyn manson will keep me on my toes I expect. Sorry to go on, but I only write occasionally so I hope I'm excused, Love, Gracexxx --- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed May 2 21:34:50 2001 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:34:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: we kiss in his room, to a popular tune Message-ID: <01050221345000.00325@hammy> Hi all, Oh yay, picnic, hurray! I'm going, but don't let that stop you. Casarotto has gone and organised a tigermilking the same day and I'm upset with him because I can't go because I already have to go to a party and I can't get out of the party because it's mine. I was 17 a little while ago and I have arranged to have people over to my house to get drunk, yay. The other good news in Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single. But wait, it gets better - it's got the loneliness of a middle distance runner which is a great song and the other b side is called "Take your carriage clock and SHOVE IT", which is such a fantastic song title. jeepsternews actually managed to inform me of all this (just) before anyone else, which is amazing because they're famously crap, and it's even more amazing because I don't remember signing up to jeepsternews. The best news is me and Dafyd are going to see a band called belle and sebastian in glasgow. I don't know how we'll afford train tickets, particularly Daf who is flying across the ocean later on in the summer, I wish I had the money to do that. Just quickly now - are drugs twee? It's just a question, but you see I'm very clean and I kind of like this girl who does a lot of pot...hmm.. No I'll stop that story before I get all fey and pathetic on you like everyone hates. You can make it up for yourself.. nervous boy.. pretty girl.. unrequited love etc etc. Oh well. I think Belle and Sebastian should do a cover of "Just Say No" by the cast of grange hill, because you shouldn't do drugs. There seems to be a new wave of anti-smoking ads for kids or something here in the UK. I keep seeing adverts on TV with kids doing "hard" stuff but not smoking. Gawd. They didn't manage to stop me smoking (completely) and I'm an obedient little boy. Suggesting that you go to under-18s nightclubs and breakdance instead of smoking is hardly going to win over the hard kids, now, is it. Bye the way I'm a closet smoker please don't tell my mum. I don't really smoke, filthy habit. I'm going to stop before this gets long again because I'm sure no-one reads very far down. Byebye darling James, P.S. Lyric contest - song name and band for the subject line. I'm sure it's too easy so I don't want entries but if you get it right think to yourself "I know a cool song, which makes me cool, but I know the lyrics to it, which makes me a sad music nerd", and make yourself a little prize, a cup of coffee perhaps - you are still quite cool, we all get lyrics in our heads, it's not really that bad. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Wed May 2 22:23:34 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:23:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stick it up your arse and pretend it Christmas Message-ID: <003e01c0d34e$24ee9820$0300a8c0@crockery> Hullo Here is the article about Isobel from Caledonia magazine. It has a fairly limited circulation, so most of you won't have had even the chance to see it. It is a bit of an in-flight magazine, but (Scotland's most eligible men, the state of Scottich music - pipers, and something on whisky. The article itself isn't incredibly enlightening, but there are a few good moments... And there is nothing mentioned about the tour or new release - don't know when the interview was done. Words by Alastair Mabbott "Why be in one band when you can be in two? For Isobel Campbell, Belle and Sebastian was not enough - so she formed The Gentle Waves. The song drifting over the tables of Edinburgh's Elephant House cafe stops my conversation with Isobel Campbell dead in its tracks. It's a song neither of us can place, from a sixties tape being played behind the counter. "Who is that? Who is that?" she frown. "Weird," I say. But we both dance around the issue, neither of us saying exactly what's on our minds. The nylon guitar, the plaintive male voice, the bittersweet flavour of the song - this old recording is a dead ringer for Campbell's own, very current, band, Belle and Sebastian. Actually, since 1999, she's qualified for a bumper sticker reading "My OTHER band is Belle and Sebastian". The group's loose format - demonstrated by their taking a year off from playing live in 2000 - has allowed members to work on their own side projects. Bassist Stuart David established his own band, Looper, and became a novelist. Campbell struck off on her own with The Gentle Waves, of which she is singer, songwriter, guitarist, occasional cellist and only permanent member. Less than an hour has passed since the Caledonian photos shoot, and her features are still skilfully coloured and exquisitely defined. It's quite a contrast to the kind of publicity photos she's normally associated with: stark, curious black-and-white shots which rarely featured members of the actual band. Many Belle and Sebastian fans would be surprised to find her in a photographer's studio in the first place, let alone chortling "ooh-er, missus" over a piece of equipment known as the "ring flash". Simply by not playing the publicity game , and insisting that the music takes precedence, the group's members have acquired a reputation for being austere, introverted and enigmatic, which says more about the business they are in than about the band itself. And if Campbell's any indication, the image couldn't be further from the truth. Bright, animated, she roots around in a suitcase full of sixties-style gear in which she feels most comfortable. Yet, while clearly enjoying the dressing-up, and the attention of a stylist, she's laid down ground rules - as nicely as possible - about how she's to be presented. Simplicity and honesty are the watchword in Campbell's world. The debut Gentle Waves album The Green Fields of Foreverland..., is awash with naive melodies and imagery that could have come straight from children's books. Twee and saccharine to its detractors, its marriage of Campbell's classical training and her love for French pop resulted in some beguiling songs. She calls it her "baby album". But far better was to come. Last year's follow-up, Swansong for You, marked a leap forwards in confidence, scope and maturity without any loss of her characteristic directness. The more recent Falling From Grace EP showed her to be finessing her pastoral style and starting what looks to be a long-term collaboration with Bill Wells, a jazz pianist who has forged bonds with Glasgow's indie fraternity. "I think I've got quite a good intent, really," she says, polishing off a bowl of minestrone soup. "I'm quite cynical a lot of the time, but I think a lot of people are really cynical and blase about a lot of things. Sometimes, for instance, TV and advertising portray people as being a lot less sincere and less caring than they are, and a bit more tongue-in-cheek. I think a lot of pop bands are like "everything is disposable now, even people are disposable" I just think I have got quite a determination for the positive things." Born 24 years ago in Glasgow's Southern General Hospital, Isobel Campbell showed signs of musical talent when she tinkering on a piano at her grandmother's house. "I was fascinated by it, and my granny always said I could have the piano to learn on" she says. "But when the time came, when I was about 11, my aunt was living with my granny, with a baby, and when I asked 'Can I have the piano?' they wouldn't let me have it any more. So there was an exchanging of words, and my mum got me this really tacky organ thing and I went to piano lessons and then she got me a piano for £100. Then, after a few years, she took out a loan and got me a proper piano. I think she thought it was a phase. I had to nag her for a while. I don't know why I was so determined to do it, but I just wanted to go to piano lessons." Life in Glasgow was interrupted in her teens, when her engineer father took a job in the Middle East and Campbell went to board at George Watson's in Edinburgh. "It was interesting," she recalls. "It was good to mix with people from other backgrounds. I got on really well with my room-mate, in a tiny, tiny room, but it was a shame for the kids who'd been there from the first year. It was violent for the young boys. The older boys were just merciless. But the older girls didn't care too much for the younger gilrs either. It was just 'go to this place and see if you can survive'. But I quite liked it because I was older. I was desperate to get away from my family and stuff," she laughs. She used to nip off to the opera with her clarinet-playing friend Rebecca, but her main enthusiasm has always been Sixties pop. "Oh, I don't know any modern music," she groans, before admitting to liking some tracks by Air, Beck and Nick Cave. She was blown away when a boyfriend introduced her to the records of American eccentric Lee Hazlewood and everyone's favourite dirty old Frenchman Serge Gainsbourg. Her current boyfriend is an indie fan who doesn't share her Sixties preoccupations. "We've got the same taste in films," she says hopefully. Even after enrolling at Strathclyde University, eventually to come out with a BA in music, she never expected to make a living from music. "I couldn't think orchestras. It's more like being part of a machine than being creative. I think I've got too many ideas." Being in a band was "always a dream, but I thought only lucky people got to do things like that. I didn't have a howling big rock voice, so I thought I wasn't really a singer. Also, I was female and I couldn't play the guitar very well." A fateful meeting in the opening minutes of 1996 set her on the road to turning this dream into reality. In the queue for the toilet at Hogmanay party, she was approached by a young singer-songwriter named Stuart Murdoch, kicking-off a short-lived romantic relationship and a more durable creative partnership. They arranged a practice session and Belle and Sebastian's debut album, Tigermilk, was recorded a month later. Only a thousand copies were pressed and, until its CD release in 1999, vinyl copies were changing hands for hundreds of pounds. The cult grew, and their first album after being picked up by Jeepster Records. If You're Feeling Sinister, was rated one of the most inspired records in years. After they pipped Steps to the post in the Brits for Best Newcomer of 1998, causing pop svengali Pete Waterman to splutter accusations of a fix, everyone knew their name. A song called "Is it wicked not to care" on the third album, The Boy with the Arab Strap, gave Campbell her first writing credit. Even so, the constrictions of elonging to an eight-piece band were getting to her. With Belle and Sebastian established, she went off to make The Green Fields of Foreverland...recorded in a week with £4,000 of her own money. For all the dreaminess of the music, there's an astute, practical side to Isobel Campbell. Major-label stars can also be found still living in rented flats above a busy main road, while Campbell, one member of a large indie outfit , not only managed to finance the first Gentle Waves album but buy herself a home, too (she lives in Partick, quite close to where she grew up). She reckons it is not hard for someone in her position to manage that. "But musicians and artists are usually quite untogether. It's a bit of an effort for me to be together most of the time as well." She's vague as to whether The Green Fields of Foreverland...has actually shifted the 20,000 copies it's reported to to have sold in the US. So, ambitious or not? She admits it would be nice for The Gentle Waves to be successful, but seems to trust that, by some route of other, her music will find its way to the people who would like it. "The thing that I'm most into is making the best records that I possibly can. To have a dream that is in your head becoming something that's on tape, that's the best thing. And if people buy it, that's even better," she concludes. "I'm not under any illusions. I'm just learnign as I go along." Judging by the distance she's come so far,it's a philosophy that works pretty well." Linda +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed May 2 22:22:46 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sharon Stone will have her revenge on Los Angeles Message-ID: <20010502212246.28565.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Listen up, people. You won't have heard about this yet, but the Scottish pop group Belle and Sebastian are releasing some new records. One of them is called 'Jonathan and David' and will be out on June 18th, to mark the anniversary of the 'J18' demonstrations. Lead track is called 'Jonathan and David'. Other songs include 'Take Your Carriage Clock And Shove It'. A 'carriage clock' is a kind of clock, a piece used for keeping the time on carriages. It is often given to pop groups at awards ceremonies in Scotland. Speculation is Fife, I mean, rife that songwriter Rupert Murdoch wrote the song because he was sick of being given carriage clocks at ceremonies. The song effectively says, "take back the carriage clock with which you have just presented me, because I don't want it. I already have one. In fact, I have several". A third track in the running is called 'The Middle of the Loneliest Runner'. This is a song that the band played on the Tube a couple of years ago, on a carriage between Liverpool Street and Barking. It is not known whether the carriage had a clock. The song describes the loneliness of being a runner. I hope that this news has got you interested. I also have some more news which I think you'll agree is even more exciting. Belle & Sebastian will be playing some dates in Scotland this summer. They may also play some palms, possibly in Morocco, depending on the state of the Road. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Wed May 2 23:16:52 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:16:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You'd be surprised how I wanna see you again Message-ID: DON'T LISTEN TO ME The Pinefox a prophet? Who'd a thunk it? I had some stuff written about ATP, then I realised that it was completely irrelevant to anything. All I can say is thank God the go-karts weren't running. I'm a sucker for tradition, as you know. Or maybe I'm just a sucker. Jelly, please. The future is, more or less, more important. Yes, really. So now we have a picnic AND a Tigermilking to look forward to. We are truly blessed. Thank you Mark. And Lucy. And Sally. And probably Robinson. And whoever else. I WAS DOWN IN THE CLINIC I was in hospital today. Why are consultants called 'Mr' instead of 'Dr'? It makes me wary. Have they passed the necessary exams? I'd ask our resident house doctor, but he's gone down under. He's a man at work. Anyway, a man was sitting next to me, reading a magazine and eminating strange, excited 'huh-uh!' grunts every so often. I wondered what he could be reading to provoke such a response. I looked across and found it was.....equestrian weekly. Before you ask, I'm perfectly well. I'm not sure I can say the same for the horse, though. THE NURSE TUT-TUTS Earlier on I'd seen a girl in a 1982 Scotland shirt. Impressive, I thought. Then I saw her again. Stunning. Mine Wullie! Naw, mine Alan! Oh dear... Later I saw Lloyd Cole in a charity shop. That *was* astounding. He looked...moody. I was elated. At home I listened to 'Somewhere In China' on mid-eighties vinyl for the first time. I think it actually sounded better. Than the Foxgloves, I mean. Robin said he'd applied to be a weatherman. His qualifications are notable. But is this anything like the time he was forced into the inventing trade? And did he invent anything? A self-writing Sinister post would be a help to all of us. Especially, as you can see, me. Please arrange it Robin. Oh, and make it sunny this weekend, there's a good chap. What *is* a bollard anyway? NOW WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY I've been boycotting the USA for 22 years. I'm not sure of it's noticed yet. Perhaps in future, it'll start boycotting me. I WANT SURPRISES Brian said that 'Spring Rain' is a country song. I still don't understand. Was that what Lloyd was talking about? Youn said: Stuart sings about Edinburgh in "I Could Be Dreaming": "I took a walk up Castlehill". Which I think might actually be about a place in Ayrshire. Don't quote me on that, though. Well, you can if you want. I HAVE A TASK I would have joined in with Peter's Ribena strike had I known about it sooner. Alas, too late, for today I had a Ribena ice-lollie. Which is an achievment, given that I didn't even know they existed. I offered a young lady a suck of my pole, which one might almost say was met with a look of violence. But then, she's a violent girl. Not often violet; mostly ultra. I still refuse to believe the news, btw. Only 2 religious festivals have been written about so far; still so much to do.. I NEED TWO FEDS I'm still waiting for the second installment of the Inspector Bobby Forster story. Where is it? Someone has been trying to persuade me to go and see B&S in Spain. This seems like a good idea, until I consider that it is, in fact, not. I think we May have seen the first day of summer. I wanted to listen to something. It turned out that it was early Stereolab, but by then it was too late. STUART MURDOCH; THE RUMOURS WERE TRUE He was doing the sound for at least half of the Hefner gig, I think. He was doing the rounds for the rest. Someone said it was the best gig the Obscura have ever played. I think I just about agree with him. Hayman and the lads weren't too bad either, for a support act. I want Belle and Sebastian to play a cover of 'You're shite and you know you are' by The Strange Fruit Crowd vs Martin Robinson. Wicked! I think that's enough for now. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.aurell at xxx.se Wed May 2 23:31:13 2001 From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:31:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Spare some lyrics? Message-ID: <002301c0d357$98fe6c00$916c97d4@brouhaha> Hello I write songs. I try to convince people around me into writing lyrics which I can make songs of, though I hardly ever manage to persuade anyone. So I got the brilliant idea to ask you lot... Does anyone have some unused lyrics or poems that suitable for making a song out of? I think the result could be quite interesting. Simon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Thu May 3 00:29:11 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:29:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Better York Picnic Details! Message-ID: <3AF09847.7B6A787A@york.ac.uk> It has been pointed out to me that my directions were less than clear and so it would be a shock if anyone turned up at all. Well, the clearest that I can make it is this: The picnic will be at 2pm on the field opposite Derwent College at the University Of York We will meet on the field because the bus stop is right next to it. If you can find Derwent College, you've found the picnic because the field is just on the other side of the road to the College entrance. The numbers 4 and 5 buses are inhabited only by university students, so if you are not sure, just ask one of them which stop is next to Derwent College and they will happily tell you because they are all nice. If you are coming by car, there is parking. Directions for this are harder, so just mail me or give me a call for details. I know i made it sound mighty complicated first time round but it isn't! Just get on the 4 or 5 bus from the station and get off at Derwent College. It's about a 5 minute journey. Just ask someone on the bus where to get off. Hope this is more use! Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Thu May 3 01:22:01 2001 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:22:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Living in London Message-ID: Hello there Sinisters! I have a request, which I hope will not be seen as list abuse, for anybody who lives in London or knows London. I am moving down there in a few months to work but haven't got a clue about anything, particularly when it comes to finding a place to live. What I need is advice on which areas of London are nice and which are, to put it politely, best avoided. I will be working at Canary Wharf and don't want to spend more than an hour each way travelling to work. If anybody can give me any advice on nice areas to live I'd be very grateful (email me off list please). On the subject of London, it seems to me that the place is crazy: terrorists, crusties, riot police and marathon runners to name a few things that I've noticed on telly recently. It may of course be that I've just noticed all this cos I know that I'm going to be living there soon and that they've always been there. Alisdair Cook said: Stuart sings about Edinburgh in "I Could Be Dreaming": "I took a walk up Castlehill". Which I think might actually be about a place in Ayrshire. Don't quote me on that, though. Well, you can if you want. Which brought back childhood memories. If I remember right Stuart is from Alloway, which is near Ayr, and I vaguely remember from my younger days that there is an area in Ayr called Castlehill which is within walking distance of Alloway, hence the lyric. I could be wrong of course! That's taken about 15 minutes so I'll get my coat. David White david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk or join the mailing list to get regular news and site updates by emailing: belleandsebastian-subscribe at listbot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Thu May 3 11:14:58 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:14:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I have seen the loneliness of a middle distance runner Message-ID: Hi kids. Before i go on and praise B&S for including middle distance on their next ep it seems i have been "gently chided" for my use of unevocative prose in the description of Hefner, the 13th note and camera obscura so um, im sorry.I did mention that the 13th note was excellent and that by scary i meant dank and atmospheric. Camera Obscura, in my drunken state, did sound like B&S not a hugely like them but there was a resemblance, not in that they were scottish but because they sounded very much the "twee" band. The more i think of it the more it could have been Struan there. He did seem pretty shy, and when a small chant of Stuart was started he did seem pretty amused, so perhaps it was him after all. Now onto B&S. I'm absolutely delighted that they're releasing Middle Distance, i've never actually heard it live but i did manage to download it from www.belleandsebastian at freeserve.co.uk and it sounded really amazing. I rate it much higher than Paper Boat which is also pretty amazing. Has anyone heard Poupee di cire, poupee de son? I heard it on some bootleg of a french concert and it scared me to my very bones, in a good way. Isobelle sang it in perfect French and then apologised if her french was bad. If anyone has heard it and can e-mail me a translation i'd be chuffed. Peace, Love, Empathy Danny xxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Thu May 3 14:46:10 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:46:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the picture grows clearer and clearer...from the front...to the back of my mind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010503134610.80884.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> I never thought I'd be a lurker. I don't think I like the term 'lurker' anyhow. as much as I don't think I like the term 'smoker'. so. a few things I thought about posting but never did. and probably for good reasons I can no longer recall. warning: THIS IS LONG-WINDED AND POINTLESS _____________ I went to see steve malkmus at the queen margaret union. a short [shorter than I], bald [quite, quite bald], portly man with bushy eyebrows passed me by in the foyer. not really a foyer. but. and I think 'that's bill wells, isn't it?'. but I can't be sure. except that it does look remarkably like bill wells. I forget about it and go and get a drink. there are some young ladies I know that are in attendance at the concert so I decide that following them around would be preferable to sitting alone. by myself. so we sit. together. and then move. I follow. weaving through the crowd to find a favourable position to view [and, of course, listen to] the support band [lonecop] I step on a foot. I'm a nice person. I had accidentally injured someone, even if only very slightly, so I apologise. but, for some reason, I apologise in a rather queer manner. I look PAST the person I've tread on, smile and whisper 'sorry'. by this time the girls have moved deep into the crowd and I decide not to bother pursuing them. I stand back against the wall, beside the person I had only just trampled. I drink my pint. lonecop play. a long, long first one. a bow on an electric guitar. that's been done before. I look 'round at the bloke and I think 'that's chris geddes, isn't it?'. but I can't be sure. a man and a woman pass me and maybe-geddes by. maybe-geddes taps the man's shoulder. the tapped man turns and looks at me. I look at maybe-geddes and offer a half shrug. he sees maybe-geddes and erupts with greetings. he's conversing with maybe-geddes and, inbetween words, shouts something at the lonecop, bow-wielding, singing man. the lonecop, bow-wielding, singing man is on the defensive and immediately looks out into the audience and says 'whit wis that?'. the tapped man doesn't anticipate this and continues talking to maybe-geddes, not noticing the 'whit wis that?'. the lonecop, bow-wielding, singing man says 'okay then'. the tapped man turns and shouts again. lonecop, bow-wielding, singing man peers out into the crowd and sees the tapped man and looks 'round at other members of the band and says 'ahh, right'. like he knows the tapped man. I forget about it and go and get a drink. I return to my spot against the wall with a new drink. I look over to the side of the stage and notice maybe-geddes chatting with the bill wells-a-like I had noticed earlier. I conclude that it probably is bill wells and chris geddes. I leave my spot and join the girls at the front. fun concert. steve is kinda fun. but he mentions celtic as soon as he gets on stage. mistake. afterwards I walk to the thirteenth note club and have an enjoyable evening. _____________ I went to see hefner/camera obscura at the thirteenth note club. halfway through camera obscura's set I turn around and see darren hayman behind me. I laugh at him. he asks me if I want a fight. I say I don't. we chat, briefly, and I realise I am very drunk. I decide to get another drink. I spend the rest of the concert seated. trying to stay upright. a few people who had consumed as much, if not more, than I seemed completely in control of most of their faculties. I was done. afterwards I go upstairs and stand around. I have another drink. for some [or no} reason. stuart murdoch is pointed out to me. I mis-understand what the pointer is trying to achieve for quite a while. stuart murdoch is wearing a striped t-shirt. horizontally striped. I try to look sober and mention that there's a man wearing a visor. I leave. _____________ and that's that. I'll store up at least another two boring anecdotes [is that oxymoronic? probably just moronic] before I attempt to post again. yes. thank you. richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu May 3 17:33:58 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: they're lyrics & lines, love Message-ID: <20010503163358.48586.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinisters: here are a few lines which i feel would add a nice touch of sublimity to any song: "with stars shine, and glossy movement your face in my mind is music" or "the rose i painted on your neck with my lips last night" or "and when i find you, i'll crumble to tears at your feet" let me know what you all think. i need CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. ttfn caleb ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From howied41 at xxx.com Thu May 3 21:10:47 2001 From: howied41 at xxx.com (David Howie) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 20:10:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Apologies Message-ID: Subject: Apology I reckon I owe a couple (if not three, possibly four) apologies to various people all connected with Sinister, so if you�ll allow me I will make them and be on my way. Humbled. The order of my apologies is in no way representative of the relative importance of the respective apologies merely a signal of which apology comes to mind first. Well, first: Danny. I guess I owe you a pretty big apology for my utterly disrespectful and unwelcoming e-mail. I guess I should point out its flaws and say sorry. 1. My introduction served merely to justify my little rant to myself by disguising it as a �gentle chiding�. Pah. You are totally correct in using inverted commas in your riposte; my e-mail was no more a gentle chiding than Hitler�s tousmache was attractive. You are entirely correct in pointing out the subjective nature of my use of the term. And I apologise, it was a mask behind which you obviously seen. The first e-mail you sent to the list should have been welcomed with open-arms (I know I feel sad when I see peoples� first posts go by unnoticed). That�s not what sinister is about; my take on it is that we�re a community (however, not in the Amon Duul 1 sense of the word) and that we should be civil and welcoming (but not to the point of Christianity � �The only thing wrong with Heaven is that its full of Christians�, Atheist, 4:19). 2. My pompous declaration that your description of the 13th note was an inferior piece of description was totally arrogant and self-adulating (self-serving?) I think that it wasn�t meant as totally sincere but I can see how it came across as pompous, and I guess at heart it was verbosity-as-showing-off. Sorry. Such verbal wankery I shall leave to proggers from now on. I even reckon my comments about being Sinister Junior Reporter were implicitly �Ha ha, I�ve been here longer than you; you�ll never reach my status�. I feel so ashamed. Sorry. I guess I can be a little smug at times. I am sincerely sorry; and would not blame honey is she stripped me of the post as it would be deserved. 3. My comments on Camera Obscura were unjustified as well seeing that I�ve only heard three of their songs; as were my comments on Baxendale (�although quite why you�d want to�). However, I do stand by my opinion that they don�t sound that much like B&S (more like Felt, High Llamas, Idlewild at their poppiest perhaps) but that is no excuse for jumping on your comments; thus, I apologise, again. Again, my comments regarding Hefner were ego-serving and arrogant. Sorry. 4. I guess I just felt threatened and when threatened Male persons (or possibly just me) tend to retreat and show their fangs. You are the first person I really �know� on sinister (as if anyone can really �know� anyone but that�s a whole other discussion � and probably apology); and I guess I, sorry I know, that I wanted to assert my membership upon you without appearing too much of a prat to sinister (hence the �gentle chiding� disclaimer). I know that those feelings were silly and irrational; and I�d like to welcome you to sinister (God, I sound like a Scientologist). 5. Friends? Please? Now, I said I had some other apologies didn�t I. Well, the first is to Sinister itself. I apologise for writing such a self-indulgent mail and I�m sorry you had to read it. I know sinister is about� Well, what is sinister about? Certainly not anything contained in my bellicose e-mail. I know saying sorry may not be good enough; but I hope that you�re as forgiving as you are nice. Third apology: Honey. My handling of the whole e-mail address, although not bellicose, was dithery and dozy and transformed a two minute job into a 7 or 8 e-mail job. I guess I�m just a bit slow sometimes, and if some of my e-mails appeared abrupt or irate then I�m sorry. I wasn�t irate but I can see how it might have come across that way; sorry Paul (and Linda). Fourthly? Mathematics? It seems I am unable to count. I guess I�ve said all I can say on this subject; I apologise. Now onto the subject that we�re here to discuss: anything. No, only kidding. Belle & Sebastian. I too am absolutely delighted that they're releasing Middle Distance Runner (told you so, teehee). I've never heard it live but I did hear it on the tube when they played it and it does contain the best guitar fill ever, no? Do you think that Paper Boat is amazing, Danny? I think its Stuart David�s songs (for B&S) I�m not sure about them (see: Winter Wooskie, Seymour Stein). I�ve heard Poupee De Cire� on a nasty thirtieth generation mp3 or something; but it is still pretty good. I agree Isobel is pretty damn perfect; oh, and on the song. I think it�s the paranoid strings (guitars?) that tend to scare people to the quick. Very Forever Changes-era Love. Anyways. That�s my fifteen minutes. Thank you, David. PS Danny if you want to talk or anything (about music, anything) just e-mail, please. PPS My new sinister reporter e-mail address (dependent upon whether I get to keep the tag) is sinreporter at missprint.org Report all your sins to me. :) PPPS Should I send the lyrics of �Take Your�� and �Big John Shaft� to the list? Neil? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Fri May 4 06:38:20 2001 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 22:38:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: concert tickets in canada?? Message-ID: Hi there, I'm sorry, I know this is a bit off-topic...but does anyone know how to buy tickets (website, phone number, whatever) for concerts happening in british columbia (i.e. thunderbird stadium)?? thanks, andrea http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlepilgrim at xxx.com Fri May 4 09:24:05 2001 From: littlepilgrim at xxx.com (little pilgrim) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:54:05 +0930 Subject: Sinister: what happened to being a teenage rebel Message-ID: ok look it's friday and you'd be thinking it's time for drinks and friends and a little light banter but here i am left with the ol' monkey on my shoulder/editor (p f you're not alone out there) and the word counter. i'm not going to mention that i'm almost ripe with ill-feeling over these picnics LET ALONE CONCERTS you kids are getting skittish about. it's not always fun living on the other side of the world. so just a quick question: does anyone suspect camera obscura is a kind of frightful pun on barthes' camera lucida? (which is a beautiful book if you're looking for one). lp _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Fri May 4 09:41:03 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:41:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura Message-ID: <200105040842.f448gkU11896@wn1.sci.kun.nl> Just a quick answer to a quick question: Camera Obscura is an old dutch book by a guy called Hildebrand. It has a number of stories in it, situated somewhere in the end of the 19th century. I had to read some parts of it for my exams (seven years ago already, aargh), and found it particulary boring. I don't know if it has anything to do with the band, but at least you all may learned something today. Yesterday I had to sit inside all day and the weather was great, today I have to sit inside all day and the weather sucks. I don't know what I like better. marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Fri May 4 10:33:08 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:33:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20010504093308.5057.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> hello everyone im feeling very..very em, what is it when youve just done somthing really big and you are well chuffed with it? oh well never mind i have just written a 3000 word essay on aparthied justification and i am chuffed. is radio one not a bit dull? they have just played that bloody missy eleot song for about the billionth time today. anyway only one week left of skool and i am out of here woohoooo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Fri May 4 13:02:22 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:02:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Picnics on Primrose Hill are cool Message-ID: <006601c0d492$13d82520$32c913ac@bathspa.ac.uk> I'm getting all nausous with excitement about the picnic... well, it could be more due to the fact that I drank after taking paracetomol last night, but that's a different matter. I have checked train times, bought my picnic food (apart from the ribena... which I need to dilute :)), got more film for my camera and am all but ready. I can't believe there hasn't been more, I'm like a kangeroo on LSD. I'm a little worried though, reports of previous picnics seem to involve everyone having massive fun. I'm just not sure I'm capable of it. I think I'll just end up sitting on the glass talking bollocks while people fly kites and play football and staple each others ears to trees, or what ever you people do at those gatherings. Oh, and I don't like football much *covers head and waits for a response...*. I was sitting in 19th Century English class today and, while we we studying the poetry of some biggotted, ignorant asshole, I began to feel sad that the wonderful poetry that is B&S lyrics will never be included in a poetry anthology. Can we not count "On a beach tree rudely carved NC loved me Why did she do is was she bored or pushed" or "Mayfly woken up when skies are clear I don't mind you coming near Keep me company till she comes along" or even "A mile and a half on a bus takes a long time" The young Mr Feguson said... as some of the best poetry ever written? Does it not represent, honestly, intellegently and beautifully, the time we live in? Ah, but I'll end my rant now. Well, my friend, it seems that listening to any comercial radio station in non-London Britain during the day is likely to disappoint. Apparently in America they are so concerned with the hermoginistion of the airwaves that they're licensing pirate stations. Not bad really, considering they have the great luminary G.W at the head of their country, hope they do something like that here. I suggest that the only time radio 1 is really worth the effort it take to listen to it is around 11p.m. on weekdays... for Johnny Peel. So anyway, I'll go and think about the picnic. To anyone who is going to the picnic... please try not to have too much fun on my behalf. We could all sit round and play trivial pursuits and eat spam. Ah lovely spam. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From doyster at xxx.nz Fri May 4 12:47:03 2001 From: doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:47:03 +1200 Subject: Sinister: First Screamings from the Colonies. Message-ID: Kia Ora, another first post, yep another isolated soul in envy of picnics and group shenanigans. To make things worse it is officially the rainy season where I am living, the perfect time for the reading of lists and not leaving the house. Cos when it rains it pours. I got to meet the Prime Minister of New Zealand today, she came to the school I go to, I wore a t-shirt that said "In hock up to my eyeballs", in the vain hope that she would go home and abolish the student loan scheme, but I'm not so sure that she even saw it, she did seem to be awed by the flashing lights in the recording studio though, (in our hearts we are all children).She also farted during the speech by the Kaumatua. A quick word on the origins of Camera Obscura, and forgive me if I am stating the bleeding obvious, but it is simply a pin-hole camera.(if I am stating the obvious lets put it down to the fact that I'm fresh from the nursery and still in nappies). I wish I could be there for the London picnic maybe someone can let a balloon be taken by the wind in honor of kindred spirits in isolation. And if you haven't already, listen to "Lost blues and other songs" by Palace Music, bonny prince billy indeed, +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Fri May 4 20:48:34 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:48:34 -0700 Subject: Sinister: happy happy joy joy Message-ID: <3AF30792.CF5@camb.linst.ac.uk> well, i am absolutely chuffed to bits at the moment. I was listening to the greatest dj at the moment, (gilles peterson) on thursday morning and he read my name out, i won a Zero 7 album and t-shirt wahay! i never win anything usually. I also went swimming that day and felt positivley brilliant. By the time 12:30 came i was drunkern to the bone and now im feeling very very chewey. to that bloke asking about london, um, ive realised that Greenwich will be your best bet, its cool there. Someone send me a lovely little e-mail afew weeks ago, giving me some moral support and what not. unfortunatley it got lost so i cant remember who you are but thanks. is that tape competition still open? if it is where do i send it to and does it matter if the sound quality is a bit dodgy? i keep falling for people who work in shops. first it was a guy in leicester, now its a guy who works in tin pan alley, he plays guitar really well, that always does it for me, oh dear. see some of you tommorow hopefully, muchstuff hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Fri May 4 13:11:32 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:11:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sinister, your Cosmic tool of Fate Message-ID: <82.a916fe7.2823f674@aol.com> Bore da, buongiorno, guten morgen, and so on What a good morning. I am happy and I don't have to be in school until ten so I have time to write this post that I've been meaning to make. First off, a little B&S information. I did some babysitting a while back. This nice family in my neighborhood has a lovely little girl named Samantha, only a few months old when I babysat for her. Now the only way I could get her to sleep was to let her lie on me while a sat with terrible posture in a rocking chair (I got lots of backaches) and sang "Judy and the Dream of Horses" to her. No joke. That was the only way I found to get her to stop crying and sleep. The youngest belle and sebastian fan? Now the reason I'd been meaning to post was this: my listcrush and I have more than hit it off. I love him and he's coming to visit me this summer. Now we've had previous experiences with having similar dreams, or prophetic dreams, claivoyant dreams, or whichever you'd like to call them. Now we've had nearly the same dream again, which involved us both being in my bedroom. When he told me about it he knew what my room looked like, despite the fact that he's never seen it. He even knew the placement of the windows and furniture. I had the same dream, so it's as if he was really there. Hmmmmm... Now I have a brief request. I've just finished all the required work for my art course, so now I have the rest of the year to do what I want with the supplies they'll give me. I want to do an oil painting based on a passage in a good book or story that is descriptive as hell. I suppose after saying that I've nearly resigned myself to catcher in the rye, but if anyone knows of any good passages begging to be painted, I'd appreciate it ever so much if you could tell me. I guess I could make a mixed tape if you want a trade. Well, that's all for now. Pleasant dreams, Kara* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Fri May 4 13:11:07 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:11:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jake, your carriage rocks, I love it Message-ID: <200105041204.NAA14820@missprint.org> Hello, Writing long dissertations for a hobby is sad, even writing long dissertations not for a lobby is still sad, or it makes me sad anyway, that's why I'm er, writing this instead. Still, it beats marking geometry courseworks, and I'm taking my weekend off for a little karaoke and picnicy fun, oh yer, and let's hope it won't be raining on Saturday.. that's water, men or Geri Halliwell included. Simon Aurell said: "Does anyone have some unused lyrics or poems that suitable for making a song out of? I think the result could be quite interesting." I wrote a poem once, inspired by a llovelly millkmaid but I don't think you can use it anymore cos some cheeky band stole it and made it a chart topper, it went something like this.. If we churn churn churn churn, churn churn churn, churn churn churn churn churn. If we churn churn churn churn, churn churn churn, we might earn. Apology I want to also apologise to Linda for thinking that she has had nothing but a hard-on for me, that was blatantly untrue. Although her last message *was* titled: "Sinister: Stick it up your arse and pretend it Christmas" Hmm. :-) Picnics and Red Bulls! Ken P.S.: got some photos scanned for ATP at http://www.cockscrew.com/atp if you wanna have a look. ====================================================================== When will you realise it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri May 4 13:25:59 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:25:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: JuSt AnotHeR 80s FaN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010504122559.5025.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com> Hello the land of SiNiSteR! It's been a while... (I haven't smiled...) and many things have happened... things that I'm sure you'd like to know but I won't tell you anyway... mmm unless you beg... nicely... and with the proper puppy-indie-eyes... Well, the sinister picnic's on this weekend... I was supposed to be there but alas I won't make it... First Sinister Picnic of the YeaR... I keep reading about kites and other weird things like that but anyway, no comment... don't you know that all you need is vodka bottles in your handbags? But instead of coming to London in May, I'm coming in June so I can go and see the Bell(i)es in Glasgow both nights! And then we're having a sinister picnic in London on the 23rd (is that right Mr Marvoloso sir?) June and it's at GREENWICH this time... Talking about Glasgow... there's been a lot of talk lately about this glaswegian beat combo, the Camera Obscura... mmm So, let's take things from the start... David Howie said: My comments on Camera Obscura were unjustified as well seeing that IÂ’ve only heard three of their songs; as were my comments on Baxendale (“although quite why youÂ’d want to”). However, I do stand by my opinion that they donÂ’t sound that much like B&S (more like Felt, High Llamas, Idlewild at their poppiest perhaps) but that is no excuse for jumping on your comments; Camera Obscura have been around for a few years, their infuences vary... I'd say they're quite sixties, influenced by Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra, and yes, Felt too, but really High Llammas, and Idlewild?? they had two singles out, "park and ride" and "your sound" a while ago... and they've spent the last year or so recording an album... there are connections with B&S though... as Stuart (don't you just hate it when people call him Struan? it's just so awful and bad taste) produced the single for them, called "eighties fan" and it's out next month, mid June or something... its got a real sixties wall of sound feel and stuart arranged strings for it. The B-sides are "shine like a new pin" and "let's go bowling". I think that Mr Murdoch is also playing accoustic guitar in "eighties fan", but I can't say for sure...the album's out later this year.... other AffiNitiEs... Richard from B&S drummed for CO for a year... he's actually on their second single... Then Mr Danny Farrell went ahead and said: Camera Obscura, in my drunken state, did sound like B&S not a hugely like them but there was a resemblance, not in that they were scottish but because they sounded very much the "twee" band. Not in my very worst (best) drunken state I'd say that Camera Obscura sounded like the "twee" band... they're not hopping around like little happy bunnies in green fields and they hate daisies indeed... they may sound mellow in some songs, but that doesn't make them twee, does it? like you wouldn't call the Clientele a twee band, or Hopkirk and Lee, or the Montgolfier Bros, would you? unless mellow=twee nowadays... Marc Bots then said: Camera Obscura is an old dutch book by a guy called Hildebrand. It has a number of stories in it, situated somewhere in the end of the 19th century. I had to read some parts of it for my exams (seven years ago already, aargh), and found it particulary boring. I don't know if it has anything to do with the band, but at least you all may learned something today. Yes, we learnt something today... the band didn't take its name from monsieur Hildebrand I'm afraid, nor from monsier Vaneguem... The name comes from the prototype camera, where images were inverted onto a screen... simple as that... There's a CO mailing list for those of you who may be interested, it's called parkandride and it's another missprint.org mailing list... For those of you who are americans and have heard about Camera Obscura, this is not the american camera obscura coz there is a band in US called that but believe me they're utter crap... so don't subcribe with the hope of having yourselves indulged into emo (emotional hardcore) delights... That's all I had to say... for now... I hope everyone has a smashing time at the picini! it'd be better if I and my hotpantslollylove miss Pooky (or Genevieve to its posh-est) were there to form the sinister girls footy team and beat the boys up... next time... and Pooky, I don't know if you've heard that but Ally Cookie Cinnamon is going to be at this picnic too!! yes, yes, I know... anyway.. take care Vel xxx PS: Praise Laura Llew!!! she sent me the best themed parcel ever!!! knowing my fixation with lighthouses (please no freudian wits here...) Laura Llew, when I'm blue, you make feel like sniffing some glue... and no matter what the neighbours say if we could find a way and oh oh baby we will find a way... (stolen from the mightly Ramones... R.I.P Joey Daddy O') PpS: Joe Strummer when he was asked in an interview in Spin magazine (crap magazine but anyway) what was the most influencial, most important punk band in the UK, he replied "no question about it; the Television Personalities"... so there... I used to love Mr Strummer... after that, I adore him... "waR is the last possible creative act" MT "If" "the new creation will arise from the ruins of the old world", IsidoR Isou (International Lettrist) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri May 4 13:34:23 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:34:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I didn't want to be a weatherman, I wanted to be... A Lumberjack! Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027754D6@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Picnic day tomorrow. And in an amazing turn-up for the books, the weather forecast is that it's going to be sunny! And warm (11 degrees)! Which means we might not adjourn to the pub until, ooh, 5 o'clock... Of course, we'll drink a toast to all the Sinisterines in other parts of the world who can't make it. And then we'll drink a toast to Sinisterines who could make it. And then we'll drink a toast to non-Sinisterines, whether they could make it or not. And then we'll drink a toast to anyone we haven't drunk a toast to yet. And then we'll just drink. People who will be going tomorrow: for those who don't know, it was decided a couple of years ago that, so that we could recognise other Sinisterines, we should each wear a (preferably B&S) badge upside-down for identification purposes. People who haven't been to a picnic before should also be aware that it's traditional to turn up in fancy dress. Unfortunately, last weekend was the best weekend of the year for me, since I went with two coachloads of students from around the country to Holland for the weekend for a korfball tournament, from which I'm still recovering (getting back from the party at 5am, and starting drinking again, despite having to get up 2 hours later to start the day's matches...). Anyone who isn't from the UK won't have a clue what it means to Mint! an entire Sports Hall full of sleeping people en masse from the balcony at 5.30 in the morning, but believe me, it's fun. Anyone who isn't from the UK might not know what it's like to spend an entire week hungover, but believe me, it's not fun. To be fair, I have had a superb week, but this wasn't it. In other news, my life has been infinitely improved now that we know which hospital Isobel was born in. I would also like to be the first to boast about having received an advance copy of the new single "Eric and Tarquin", and how great it is. Unforunately, I'd be lying. Big Stu PS Is Nottingham's "The Long Island Iced Tea Cafe" the worst name for a nightclub ever? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk Fri May 4 13:48:13 2001 From: Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.uk (Ruth A. Deller) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:48:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: methodological confessions In-Reply-To: <200105041204.NAA14820@missprint.org> References: <200105041204.NAA14820@missprint.org> Message-ID: King Ken of the Red Bulls said: >Writing long dissertations for a hobby is sad, even writing long >dissertations not for a lobby is still sad But what I want to know, is writing long dissertations about Sinister et al for academic purposes (or even porpoises) sad? Cos if so...thanks a lot, Ken. I handed the beast in (all 117 pages of it - times 2) on Wednesday, after spending the best part of twenty quid on the printing (grrr) - and celebrated by buying TBWTAS and Cliff Richard's greatest hits. (True) I want to publicly thank everyone who helped (big mwahs all round) - and yes, you have got a thank you credit (especially Mikey, Jules and Honey - and Vel for always asking me how it was going). And yes, sadie is mentioned in it a few times (how could I resist?) although my own infatuation is, erm, mysteriously absent. Am planning to go to the B and S Offbeat night (if I get off my butt and buy tickets) so the first listee to spot me ('cept mikey and jules whom i've promised a free drink to at some point) will get bought a free pint of something cheap and tasteless. I can't tell you my marks or upload the thing or anything right now, so don't ask me yet!!! Have a billion and one other assignments to be on with, but you are free to discuss whatever you like - my beady eye may still be watching, but not for any academic purposes. I only joined this place for study but I've become fond of you all - and of B & S whom I didn't really bother about before. The Cliff fans are pretty sweet people, too. So much for neutrality (((((((((RAD))))))))) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Fri May 4 14:08:51 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:08:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20010504130851.19627.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> hello i would just like to clear a few thngs up or one actually. i have recieved a number of worried e-mails concerning my message i sent this morning I AM NOT PRO APARTHIED i was mearly examining the arguments put forward by the afrikaaners, and so on ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Fri May 4 14:25:57 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:25:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ring Flash Message-ID: ello babies Big Stu claimed he never wanted to be a weatherman, however what i want to know is "what's the weather like *up there* stu?" ha ha ho ho . I shall be dressing up as Martin Robinson tomorrow, or possibly Lucy Alder, I'll see how the mood takes me... I've decided not to go to Glasgow for the gigs cos i'm too skint. I hope they play in Oxford, then everyone can come and stay at my house :) Might be a bit of a squeeze though. Well done on finishing your diss RAD, and ken, stop procrastinating and get on with fiddling with your footballer. Cooky used the heading: STUART MURDOCH; THE RUMOURS WERE TRUE to which no further comment needs to be added i think Thank you to auntie lulou for typing out the isobel piece. Where can one get a subscription to the Caledonian then? Cassarotto said: I'll send a proper post (directions etc.) when all the details are finalised! which he seems to have forgotten about, so for any of you who haven't seen the final details, they are: Tigermilking! Date: Saturday 5th May Time: 8pm - midnight Venue: downstairs at Bar Oporto, 168 High Holborn (corner of Endell Street), London WC2 Nearest tube: Tottenham Court Road/Covent Garden Price £4 or £3 concessions NB - Bar Oporto has no name sign - it's the unnamed bar right on the corner of Endell Street & High Holborn, next to the sports centre and across the road from the Shaftesbury Theatre. The ground floor is a small, regular bar - downstairs' entrance is to the right of the bar as you come in. YAY picnic, etc xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Fri May 4 14:57:16 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:57:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: italian hunters sausage Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732065@GB047XS> Hello! Isobel article from an in-flight toerag got me thinking. Did the scrote who wrote that consider it in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM INTERESTING??? She's PRACTICAL! She has a house! She was uh, born! C:\Duh!* I could pull better writing out of my ARSE! In fact this morning I found a short novella written in the Raymond Chandler style up there, but needed it to uh, clean up. But anyway. I can't afford a house. But no honestly, I *care* that she can. I *care*. Do any lucky listees own their own houses? I know at least four people on this list who have mortgages, and I'll guesstimate for a few of you they won't be far off.... but do not fear! I have a solution to poor people who can't afford to buy houses in Partick, or Parbold, or even a parboiled egg (I *have* been that poor)! Take heart and cheer from Isobel. >From scraping the bottom of the sandwich development section at Pret to Caledonian fame! ( I actually feel quite ashamed..) You mean you don't know? Ah this takes me back. Once upon a time, Isobel was a crackin' sandwich developer for Pret a Manger. Amongst her many great inventions were mutton, pear and salvation wraps, tar, tartar and taramasalata (nearly!) baguettes and her pish pie and prophylactics range. She was the queen of sandwich development! BUT! Ohhhhhhh my friends, but. There was a HARSH side to this girl, a harsh side usually unassociated with the friendly and team player friendly world of making butties. Because of her, well, undoubted genius in crafting lunch time perfection, her co-workers would put up a lot from her. Her somewhat unorthodox views concerning squirrels (framed in formaldehyde above her workstation) just had to be let go as "cute eccentricity". She also went through a load of tomato ketchup every day, sometimes those red (RED!! RED!!) stains wouldn't come out of her pinny. But still! Great sandwiches! Until that one day when the truth came out!! Little Stevie Malkmus was working late one day. Try his hardest, he and his colleague (the cheery one from Kraftwerk) just couldn't beat Isobels sandwich design. Always overlooked for promotion, they were working late one night, when they heard An Insane Cackling Sound coming from her penthouse lair! Golly gosh, said the chirpy one, what the chuff were that? Geez dude I don't know, said S.M. Hoox me up with some more basil! The cackling sound came again! Blimey charlie, said happy Kraftwerk man, we should go have a sken at that. Sigh, okay, said S.Malk. And what did they see!!!! ISOBEL! standing there! A knife in her hand! Covered head to toe in red (RED!! RED!!) liquid!!! And with the other hand she was holding aloft a swan, with a severed neck! Try as he might, little Stevie Malky couldn't hold back his revulsion! BLUGGGH he went, and vommed all over his brand new Converse. Isobel turns round. AaaAAaaaAAAah she said, in that bizarre upper/lower case mix favoured by Velocity Girl, you've seen my secret ritual of slaughtering swans!! You know my secret swan strength! And with that she backed towards the window and PLUNGED herself through it! ARGRHHHHHHHHH and EEEEEEK she screamed! The last thing I heard was her screaming... "Swan Sandwich For You"! Apparently now she's all clean and never thinks about Those Creatures anymore. The swans gain is sandwich makings loss. But what if she ever decided to go down that evil road again... . Geez. That was a long way to go for such a let down joke wasn't it? But you get it? Geddit, right? RIGHT? Ah fuck it. I should maybe go and do some work. That joke was really funny this morning, believe it or not... Love, Sarah xx *How geeky and nerdy is that? It's bad enough as it is, but DOUBLY cos I nicked it from Aunt Zelda on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Incidentally, I saw the movie of that show on Channel 5 post-Aislers Set in Nottingham fun, my GOSH! Pas tres bon! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri May 4 15:49:58 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:49:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Look out, Mrs Persil ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3AF2CFA7.21430.4F7FF60@localhost> Alasdair fits lots of people's names into his posts, which is something I never manage. He's very funny too. I think he should post more often. > Robin said he'd applied to be a weatherman. Is this anything like > the time he was forced into the inventing trade? > And did he invent anything? I don't know if I ever said or not, but at the time I had lots of suggestions for inventions from helpful Sinister folk. The best idea was Kevan Cooke's device for rescuing plectrums when they fall into guitars. In the end, though, I had to confess to Jerry Singer that I was a cheap fraud, an inventing tart, and he stopped phoning as mysteriously as he had begun. Oh, I don't suppose anyone understands this, try searching the archives for "Jerry Singer". His voice still haunts my dreams. As for the weather on Primrose Hill, a sinister front forming from all directions will mean it's sunny, of course. Further down the road it will rain and a monkey's uncle, blown by his powerful bottom wind from his tree in da jungle, will land on the face of Mrs Persil who lives at number twenty six. But at Primrose Hill the weather will be peachy. I also predict that someone, whose name begins with R and has just had a haircut, will bring a cake that tastes better than it looks. Honestly it does. Robin. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri May 4 16:00:09 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:00:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILKING, Saturday 5th May Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2201ADA2A1@SERVER1> Okay - full details below! Apologies again to non-London listees. TIGERMILKING, Saturday 5th May, 8pm - midnight, downstairs at Bar Oporto, Covent Garden £4 or £3 for concessions and picnickers The best in fun P!O!P! with a big helping of B&S, with lashings of indie (in all its forms), northern, French pop, 60s and 70s ephemera and the occasional slice of cheese. The DJs play basically anything you've read about on Sinister - except Lloyd Cole and Pink Floyd :-) The venue is downstairs at Bar Oporto, corner of Endell Street and High Holborn - the bar doesn't have a name sign, but it's next to a gym and opposite the Shaftesbury theatre. The stairs down are at the right-hand end of the bar. To get to the bar from Tottenham Court Road station (3 mins walk), turn down Charing Cross Road and take the first left - St Giles High Street, which turns into High Holborn. Endell Street is the 4th road on the right, and the bar is the first building on the left hand side of the road. >From Covent Garden station (5 mins), turn left out of the station and right onto Long Acre. Walk 50 yards to the mini-roundabout and turn left - this is Endell Street, and Bar Oporto is the last building on the right. If you're going to be at the picnic, just follow the crowd :-) If you need help (with the club or the picnic), call me on 07771 656961 and I'll see what I can do. Hope you can come! Mark xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Fri May 4 16:26:07 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:26:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: A Rather Big Disappointment Message-ID: hmm... hello sinister... I hope you are all doing alright in this weather. I, for one, have been extremely frustrated and upset by this weather. My school has ruled out tank tops and halters from our dress code, so I survive by dressing in a gigantic shirt that is very comfortable and thin and cargo shorts. I suffered a rather big disappointment today morning. My crush (yes, the one who knows of Belle and Sebastian's existence) has a girlfriend. Still unconfirmed, but enough to turn me off for the time being. Oh well, he's still a cool person, I hope we can be better friends... Incidentally, does anyone have the tab to ....and carrot rope by pavement? It's such a great song, I would like to be able to play it on the guitar, but due to my lack to talent and experience on the guitar, I can't figure out what chords to use.. On the other hand, I have started to write a play of random incidents that have happened to me. But I have run out of ideas. If anyone has funny or random, odd anecdotes (do not have be based on truth), please let me know. One of the scenes go something like this: SASHA jumps on stage holding an Amazon.com box, starts ripping apart the box, and takes out two CDs. SASHA: Look! I got new CDs! IZA: (groaning) Oh God. More. SASHA: What? They’re good CDs. IZA: Who is it? SASHA: The Amphetameanies and the Clientele! IZA: My point exactly. SASHA: Hey! (continues ripping open CD wrapper) IZA: (looks up) The tree has been hitting me randomly today. (SASHA hits IZA with a box) IZA: That’s not the tree. (DAVID and PETER pass by in the background) S: Yes, it is. It’s essentially made out of the same material. I: (sarcastic) Right. S: (hits IZA again) The tree doesn’t like you too much. (hugs box) I: The tree doesn’t like you too much either, my friend. S: Sure it does. See? I’m hugging it right now and it’s not running away, so it must love me. I: (blows up) That’s so stupid! That’s like putting a dog on a leash and saying that it loves you because it’s not running away! S: Well, if the tree was repulsed enough by my display of affection for it, it would somehow find ways to escape my touch. I: No, it wouldn’t, because it CAN’T. S: Are you trying to deny that evolution happened? (Lights dim) For some reason, when I re-read what I've written, my words tend to become extremely stupid, even to myself. Is this list abuse? Uh.. Belle and Sebastian. Kings of Convenience listen to them, you should, too. Can anyone recommend some good albums for me to listen to? (and which one of the 6 pavement cds should i start off with? has anyone listened to the new steven malkmus cd? is it good?) Thank you for listening to me babble. Love and kisses Hye Min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Fri May 4 16:45:45 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:45:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: DISCO VS. ROCK @ POPSCENE TONIGHT! Message-ID: Has it really been a whole two weeks you've survived without Popscene? Popscene truimphantly returns TONIGHT May 4th, 2001 @ 19 Balmuto Street - TORONTO - South of Bloor and West of Yonge (right beside William Ashley on Bloor). MANHATTAN CLUB! Tonight Popscene's DJ spins a cosmic competition between your favorite rock and disco, pop and soul, indie and sell-out - sprinkling and spinning hot summer vibes and finally putting some mileage on your expensive footwear. Do not miss this spectacular night filled with cities hepcats and stylin' fashionistas! As if the music wasn't reason enough! Please also feel free to FORWARD this e-mail to everyone who may want to celebrate summer clubbing with Popscene TONIGHT! 19+ All inquiries for Popscene please forward to mod_max at yahoo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Fri May 4 21:03:05 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:03:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's me again... Message-ID: I am terribly sorry to list twice in the same day... but many people told me I should listen to the Fall as well, and I can't for the life of me which one of their 20-something albums would be good. Can you help? Love and kisses Hye Min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From howied41 at xxx.com Fri May 4 22:14:30 2001 From: howied41 at xxx.com (David Howie) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 21:14:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sounds of the New West Message-ID: I realise that hardly anybody will read this e-mail; but if you can, please do. This music is important to me: it uplifts my soul. If just one person writes to me and says �Yeh, man. Totally.� Or �That Willard Grant Conspiracy, going to see them next month�, I�ll know that I�m not alone and that will re-assure me that I�m not a teenage freak. If you don�t want to read the ten song synopsis, just read the little blurb at the top and then skip to the end; and if you just don�t like me, tell me and I�ll shut up. Chasing the Normal, David. �I don�t know how appreciative Sinister is of Nouvelle Americana (or indeed of Classic Americana) but I am firm advocate of its consumption. Nouvelle Americana, a re-drawing of the musical topography of America, a reinvention of its great traditional musics and the creation from those traditions of something vibrant and new and unclassifiable. These artists� music is the sound of the familiar made strange, compelling and alien in the classic manner of Roxy Music. While the turgid abject drizzle that passes for current UK rock and indie persists on dampenening us all, majestic music floods out of America like a raging torrent. For hairy-arsed rock�n�roll in the great tradition of Springsteen and The Replacements, there hasn�t been a more incendiary (apoplectic) record in the last 5 years than Marah�s Kids in Philly. But what I, and an increasing number of listeners, keep coming back to time and again is that part of the American music landscape that is variously described as new, insurgent or alternative country, but which is increasingly ill-served by such a strict definition � much of the music being made under this journalistically-convenient label bearing only the most passing resemblance to what has traditionally passed for country. Hence the current preference for describing the type of music I love as Americana, which at least suggests something of the breadth and variety and innovation of that loose amalgamation of bands and artists whose work falls broadly into this category. This is music as a torrent of brilliance, rather than a trickle of mediocrity, a flash-flood of genius not a puddle of piss-poor prattlings from a bunch of bedwetters. I present by way of an introduction a ten song cycle which perfectly illustrates the nature of this guerrilla breed of Americana by carefully definining its ambit. 1. Neko Case & Her Boyfriends � �Twist The Knife� The sexiest member of the Americana cast, with a penchant for leaving the house without frilly undergarments, and (apparently) not shy in telling you so. The ever astute John Peel picked up on this track from Neko�s 2nd album (and no matter what Nick tells you, this is her best album) months before it was ever scheduled for release here, proclaiming it the best track he�d ever heard then playing it back-to-back in quick succession. Co-written with Ryan Adams and Mike Daly from Whiskeytown, it is an achingly gorgeous ballad with ringing guitars from her boyfriend and Travis Good from The Sadies. And there are another 11 tracks this good on her album. Born on the same day and in the same town (Tacoma) as Patsy Cline, y�know (but not in the same year, obviously.) 2. Whiskeytown � �Factory Girl� At a recent gig in London a dishevelled young Ryan Adams pleaded with the audience to stop requesting this track, choosing instead to sate their hunger with his reading of Oasis� perennial classic �Wonderwall�. Oh dear. With echoes of Uncle Tupelo, this track elides the uncomfortableness created on the 2nd album by the fact that the band come uncomfortably close to sounding like The Eagles. Oh dear, again. Like most of Adams� songs it aches with heartbreak; the girl lost Adams can only watch from a distance as the girl expurgates all the traces of Adams by working the dirt away. Sung and stalkerly prose, the song touches on two of the main themes of Americana: love (normally lost, normally to another man) and working class identity. 3. Uncle Tupelo � �High Water� The story goes like this, see. Four friends bored, listening to punk and country decide to form a band; melding the two styles into a fiercesome fusion, Uncle Tupelo and alt.country were born. The founding fathers, Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar broke away from the group eventually forming new bands (Wilco and Son Volt, respectively). However, the groups formed by the break-up were imbued with only a diluted form of concentrated constituent parts that went a long way to making Uncle Tupelo so special (i.e., the punk sensibilities of Farrar guarded and guided by Tweedy�s country-pop leanings). No space to write about the song now� Sorry. 4. Bruce Springsteen � �Atlantic City� The Nebraska album is Springsteen�s portrait of a wounded and hurting America, where the victories are small and hard won, a harsh unforgiving place far removed from the shining city on thehill described by Reagan. The protagonist in �Atlantic City� delivers an unsurpassed scathing indictment of Reaganomics by way of the lyric �I got debts no honest man could pay�. A casualty of Reagan�s America, a nation which, for this individual, is no longer the land of promise, unless what is being promised is more suffering and disappointment. 5. The Pernice Brothers � �Chicken Wire� Mogadon power-pop. 6. Knife In The Water � �Rene� Austin-based they were formed in 1997, taking their name from a Roman Polanski film. Their sparse intense music is a mutant hybrid of Gram Parsons and Spiritualized, and is inspired by classic country and blues, and a tradition of murder ballads. �Country is dangerous music,� said Blount in March�s Uncut. �Blues and country are dangerous because they sit on this existential point. For that music to work, for that kind of music to be convincing and sincere, it really has to feel death; you have to feel the death that person is singing about. It�s all about dying and sex.� 7. The Jayhawks � �Blue� This song� - isn�t as simple as might seem at first glance. - was written by Mark Olson and Gary Louris, who use words like kids use fingerpaint � they make swirls and flourishes and scars, then they turn the scene in on itself and make it roll over with some weird filligree along the edges. - wants to crawl inside your consciousness and live with you till next autumn. 8. Slobberbone � �Gimme Back My Dog� Texan quartet Slobberbone have never made it easy for themselves. The name itself is hardly endearing, and straddling rock, punk and roots music is never easy. But on their third album, their gmae plan reaps rewards. Priding themselves on songs whose narrative lyrics are more akin to short stories than standard rock verse, the can also drop in supremely catchy numbers like this one, which uses humour to draw you into a song that is deceptively, an emotionally-charged post-mortem of a failed relationship. 9. The Handsome Family � �A Beautiful Thing� Modern country classics inspired by the Hindu creator/destroyer god Shiva, and Oscar Wilde�s contention that �Each man kills the thing he loves� are rare indeed. But the Handsomes are a rare breed. Rennie�s lyrics may take labyrinthine mythology and literary sources as their starting point, but �A Beautiful Thing� is a diamon-sharp example of how she refines them into scrupulously detailed tragi-comic alcohol-laced lament. �A Beautiful Thing�? For once, the title doesn�t lie. 10. Slaid Cleaves � �Horshoe Lounge� There was only one place for Mr Cleaves when he outgrew Portland � Austin, Texas, roots rock mecca and unofficial capital of alt.country. When he�s not out touring you�ll normally find him propping up the lonely end of the bar in the Horseshoe lounge, or a bar very like it, peeling the label off his beer, and putting down quarters in the queue for the pool table. One of the leaders of Americana�s new guard of singer-songwriters. Thank you, David. PS I couldn�t resist putting Springsteen in there, even though he is hardly Nouvelle. The man is sorely ignored by many people, blindly prejudiced to the fact that he wasn�t always AOR. PPS Sorry to go on at inordinate length. I�ve ripped some quotes from places, I can�t be bothered attributing them all (so if it sounds good, I probably didn�t write it).� _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From softbollocks at xxx.com Fri May 4 23:27:57 2001 From: softbollocks at xxx.com (davie kerr) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 22:27:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't you just hate sock fluff between your feet fingers!!!! Message-ID: Alrighty People I am sorry to say but I am not happy with you, any of you. I spend a few days kicking back with my friends and all of a sudden I have over 90(+)emails. What be going on? I agree with you all that the up and coming gigs are more than exciting. But all those emais made my mouth go dry. When i read i read out loud and now I am as dry as an arabs sandle. But even so there were many emails that made me chuckle heartily. Before I go on I must apologise to everyone because I have no idea who said what or when. Anyhoo........... I have heard so many people mention covers that Belle and Sebastian could do on the new tour. I have one. Does anyone listen to mike Oldfield?? How about 'Moonlight Shadow?' I am pretty sure Isobel culd handle that song. What else was there?? Oh Yeah the Grange Hill cover. "Just say No" How is it the saying goes.......don't knock it till you have tried it!!! Best song to listen to when stoned is 'Bobby Brown' by Frnk Zappa. In fatc i'm away t smoke a bad boy just now. Take Care and I am sure I will see some of you at the Dunoon and the two barrowland gigs. Davie PS Just you dont hate checkin the spellin mistakes after an email _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat May 5 03:50:31 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:50:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Joan of Dark is alive Message-ID: <010701c0d50e$277c7460$917179a5@pavilion> Hi Kids, I spoke to our Joan of Dark on the tellyfone last night.... she is alive and well, but without computer. Apparently it got the sh*t kicked out of it. But she mentioned that *someone* on the list (i can't remember who) is forwarding the important Sinister bits (i.e. when anyone mentions how much they miss her) as text to her mobile phone. Can that person contact me please, as I have some salacious info to tell her (you are the one who's privvy to). Thanks. Glad she's ok, rilly. Aren't you? ~Brier www.brier.homestead.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com Sat May 5 06:21:56 2001 From: Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com (Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 01:21:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Oh No Message-ID: <10.c60cfbf.2824e7f4@aol.com> in response to andy's plea.... darling dear, don't think about it.... its not so bad really, kinda neat actually, esp. if you don't look/act your age. get away with alot, and if you've lived an experienced life, then you know alot! i'm quite enjoying it actually.... i still go to shows, wear flairs, jump round to b&s on SBN online (as i live in the states) at the office whilst my officemates look upon me with horror. hahaha... its quite funny actually. as for the prezzies, email me off-list and i'll post you a nice little mix of tunes for your listening pleasure. cheers, evie :) "And the East Wind kissed Him full on the mouth and said "Be Strong, for we shall meet again in a hundred years. Farewell!" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sat May 5 11:19:28 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 03:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Within A Year A Walker Message-ID: <20010505101928.991.qmail@web5303.mail.yahoo.com> I saw Gail Porter in OK! the other day and was reminded of B&S. I pondered this and thought, maybe she reminds me of Campbell (I). GP is 30. That article said IC was 24. It did, didn't it? That really got me. If true, it must mean she was born in, say, 1976; was only 19 or so when Tigermilk came out; is only, well, 2 years older than Alasdair Cook. Surely the house-owning Isobel Campbell cannot be only two years older than the wee bairn Alasdair Cook. That just doesn't computer. I have heard rumours that the lad Cook - who is never referred to as 'the Cook' - is in London. 'I Need Two Feds' was best sinister joke in ages. Mainstream is a masterpiece by other artists' standards. She's a weathergirl. And this is the rain. Yesterday was the third anniversary of the first sinister picnic. And you know what *that* means. I occasionally dream that fanzine editors are mayor of London. But in fact, Ken Livingstone has been mayor of London for a year or so. The implications of this are evidently immense. Today a Protest Vs Ken's Leadership Of London event is taking place in Sydney Bay. Make it if you can. PVKLOL is looking to build into a critical mass during the hours ahead, before collapsing. I also saw in OK! that Gwyneth Paltrow sang 20 songs with Sheryl Crow in NYC. Perhaps it was a concept album. Miller mentioned The Squeeze. You have to be careful, geezer, there are a lot of low-flying fans of The Squeeze out there. You can bang on about the merits of 'Another Nail In My Heart' vs 'Labelled With Love', or 'Is That Love?' vs 'If It's Love', for hours. It won't save you. 'Melody Motel', that was a good one, all about Boss Cat. I could go on and on in this vain, I mean, vein, believe me. Has anyone found David Lacey's list of favourite LPs, I mean, 45s, I mean, Records yet? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk Sat May 5 11:34:36 2001 From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Mikey) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:34:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sheffield picnic Message-ID: <3AF3E54D.13001.63FBE8@localhost> Hullo fans, There have been some murmurings about a Sheffield picnic again this year. Having been cajoled by Jules into writing this email, I should first make sure no one would object to me 'organising' the picnic again this year? Right, if you do then email me. If you came last year..... please please please don't hold that against me! I promise it'll be better this time! I'll *talk* to you even! No seriously, I'm determined to right the wrongs of the last time - no dividing into 2 groups, and less pringles :o) Right, here's the plan. Friday the 1st of June is the Belle & Sebastian Offbeat special (www.offbeatsheffield.com), so I figure we could have the picnic on Saturday the 2nd of June. Naturally the first half of Saturday will be dominated by hangovers for many who attend Offbeat, so the picnic can be, as last year, at 1pm. This year, Jules and I are quite fond of having the picnic in the Sheffield botanical gardens. Therefore I suppose the plan could be to meet at the big impressive entrance to said gardens at 1pm. You can see a map at http://www.shef.ac.uk/travel/maps/central_small.html to help you if you need it. More details may follow when I think of them. If anyone doesn't like my plans (whimper!) then just email me and tell me about it, I won't cry too much... Cheers, Mike :o) If you're feeling Sinister Come let us picnic together The chances are you'll probably feel better if you bring a load of boo- ooze +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat May 5 13:55:52 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 12:55:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My photographic memory ran out of film today Message-ID: I've never been to a B&S show before. I'll have to add that to my "To Do" list, right 'under George Dickie. Mm, Two sentences and I'm already talking about illicit affairs with list members. Watch out, kids - Laura Llew has returned! Yes, I'm back from New York where I even went on a scenic tour of Long Island. That was at least a good fifteen minutes of my trip. After that, I had to resort to other diversions to find out what else the place had to offer. They're always saying how big Southerners are on Ice Tea but I must confess that Long Island does have one up on us there -- hehe. I did finally get to see one of these cute Sinister boys which everyone on here keeps talking about and in a cozy bookshop too. Mystic Matthew Henderson harped, "Are there any sinisters in Mobile, Alabama? Or anywhere in the South? If so, shoot me an e-mail. We could have our own picnic, although something tells me it would be populated by mosquitos and ants, but sometimes mosquitos can be quite friendly." Well, I'll be! Shucks, I could practically taste the warm beer and hear the melodic hum of the bug zapper as I read that one. I was at the last Southern picnic and I can attest to the fact that there were no mosquitoes in attendance. Of course, there wasn't really anyone, besides me sitting on a blanket eating a peanut butter & (strawberry) jelly sandwich while reading a tattered copy of Gravity's Rainbow. Some bikers did show up to talk. I was going to take a picture of them but was too afraid they'd hurt me (they were wearing lots of leather!). So, I just got a picture looking out at the mountains from where I was at Big Witch Gap on the Blue Ridge Parkway by the Tennessee & NC border. It was on the list's 3rd birthday and I suppose I shall have another one this summer. My dog, Penny, has already promised me she wouldn't make me be the only one there this time. Her only demand is there would be no Pynchon involved since she says no one reads him, they just *try* to. I quickly debated this point. Though I haven't finished GR (and am planning to develop a support group for others who have started to read this novel & never finished. I know that Pinefox & Paul Field are in. Anyone else?), I do love the Introduction to his collection of early stories, Slow Learner. She is of the opinion that this doesn't count because it is the only time he sounds lucid and writes as a normal person would. I am of the opinion that my dogs shouldn't be talking to me of their theories and would those green little gnomes who are dancing the cha-cha on her tail as they argue as to whether Ricky Ricardo was Cuban or not please stop singing drunken melodies. ******TRANSATLANTIC MIX TAPE CHALLENGE 2001****** (you can still enter!) Well, I have purchased a mix tape holder for the sole purpose of holding entries and it is slowly but surely filling up. I knew something was awry when I first saw the tape cover of Rachel Walther's entry. I don't know what that girl was thinking but that is not a mix tape she sent. This contest isn't where it belongs either. Rather, that work of sound drama brilliance should be in some kind of modern art museum somewhere. Damn girl! I also must warn y'all that I once developed a crush on a boy simply for buying a Dorothy Parker volume of poetry. Make an ace tape and there's no telling what will happen. Unfortunately, I didn't warn Jer before he sent me his great tape. Since I put it in the deck, I've had trouble with even the though of taking it out. It's such a wonderful mix of tunes which never fails to make me incredibly happy. Oh! I would have never thought of putting the songs on there in that order, yet they seem meant to be where they are. Genius! I woke up before six this morning so I could watch the sunrise and read poetry before work started (While I'm giving you ammunition I might as well add that I've also been listening to an extreme amount of Patsy Cline for the last two weeks too so feel free to mock me since everyone else around me has been). So, hold on, Walty baby, I'm a coming... Loafe with me on the grass loose the stop from your throat, Not words, not music or rhyme I want not custom or lecture, not even the best, Only the lull I like, the hum of your valved voice --Walt Whitman, an American, one of the roughs, a kosmos I do believe I've fallen in love again. At least this time, the dead poet is male. Laura 'meeting all, except for Mark "here's the leather suit while I light the fire & get the snakes" Cassarotto, of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' PS- Vel, who I've been thinking of lot lately and yet still don't e-mail, finally got the package! Yay! Let's see, that was four months after I sent it to congratulate her on her graduation ceremony which happened how many years after she graduated? I think the theme for that one was "delayed." At least, I can now stop using such vile language each time I pass the postal office. I must confess I'm a sucker for sending themed packages. Primitive Painter, who makes the best packages EVER, is going to get one soon named "Genius or Madman". Fitting? Yes! Ahaha. PPS - I'm sorry to everyone who I haven't had a chance to write back to yet. (Of course, I apologize even more to those who have heard from me). It hasn't anything to do with that new Voo Doo kit I picked up either. Though if you send me a lock of hair, I would appreciate it. Thanks, you're a doll! PPPS - Welcome back to *THE* Jimmy G! Yes, he hasn't posted yet but I know from secret sources that he has rejoined the list. Ya know, he *is* the reason I even discovered my Dorothy Parker when he said to me, "Laura, it's not as if I expect you to be Dorothy Parker." This is a good thing too. I can fake a lot of things but a New York accent and wit isn't one of them. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Sat May 5 16:27:48 2001 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:27:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Brooklyn Is Mine, It Owes Me a Living Message-ID: <200105051529.IAA06245@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Well now.... Good morning, Sinister! I was awoken from golden slumbers by a gentle rapping upon my door, and lo! it was my landlord. Obviously being overjoyed at being woken up by my landlord at 10 AM on a Saturday, it also bears the added benefit of giving me a few hours I wouldn't have normally had to catch up on my Sinister mail, as I would probably still be asleep otherwise. I'm getting quite jealous of Londontown, hearing about all the dancing events and such. However, May and June seem to be shaping up beautifully for New York. May 27th is a Morrissey tribute night at Don Hill's. Anyone else going? Contact me if so. Apparently Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce's current band will be playing (the former rhythm section of the Smiths for those not known to memorize such ephemera) and there will be records spun, and likely dancing by Morrissey-obsessive bedsit miserabilist-types. Just last night I was at the loudest show I have thus far encountered. It was fantastically surreal on so many levels. Mainly due to the venue, the Polish-American Home, which is I guess a large structure where various Polish-related social events are held and where Polish men go to drink sometimes. Anyway this place was the size of a concert venue but it felt more like a high school dance, aside from the 9' paintings on either side of the rooms. I didn't get a good look at them, but I wager they were Polish figures of some repute. There was a spinning disco ball, and when I first got there everyone was sitting on chairs on either side of the room. But there was a bar so that's not much like a school dance I suppose. Regardless the organizers felt it would be good to crank the amps and PAs up to eleven apparently, and we were all assaulted by rock. In a good way. Pleasantly assaulted by rock. So May is off on a good note, and I have Stars and Clientele shows to look forward to, among other asundry goodies. I started a new job this month as well. I'm a receptionist and it's all office-type work. I feel myself humming Pocketbook Angel. I'd hum a less obscure B&S song if they had any other ones about office work. I am sad though because I don't get an internet connection and so cannot read Sinister mail all day. When I could do that at work, Sinister mail was far more exciting. Everything is more exciting when in stark contrast to the tedium of the working week. But they let me play video games on my laptop and read lots of novels, so I can't complain really. Things to look forward to in May and June...oh yeah, Belle & Sebastian. So I read on Jeepster dot com that Jonathan David was sung by Stevie. So all that speculation about Struan and religion is a bit premature. I am just curious, though, why is it Stevie's songs are always the singles? Is this a new trend? it seems a bit unfair though as Stuart writes a lot more songs. The singles to songs ratio is far overbalanced in Stevie's direction. I can't really speculate as I haven't heard Jonathan David, but I can hardly imagine it being better than Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner, which is not only a favorite of mine but seemingly everyone who's coming out of the woodwork to comment on it. It's one of those hype things where its being unavailable for so long gives it an odd mystique, like Tigermilk. Lastly, David Howie offered to post the lyrics to Take Your Carriage Clock... which struck me as a bit odd, considering it's an instrumental. Would it be appropriate to articulate the harmonica bit? Vwah vwah vwahhhh, etc. And also Alasdair Cook seemed to doubt that Spring Rain was a country song. Is this a popular opinion to be held? It always had a distinctly country vibe to me, and I was born in the part of the land where they make dobros so i think I have some credentials. When Stephin Merritt wrote "I also have a dobro / made in some mountain range / sounds like a mountain range to me," he was talking about my homeland. Well, the general region anyway. And on that note I shall take my leave. Brian Pennington | cellophanesky at mac.com | AIM: aVespertineDream Semi-regular observations: the Cellophane Sky: Sandcastle Records: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeper at xxx.com Sat May 5 18:54:34 2001 From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 17:54:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: riding on a ferris wheel and see what we can see Message-ID: <200105051754.KAA12775@dork.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From littlepilgrim at xxx.com Sun May 6 02:09:22 2001 From: littlepilgrim at xxx.com (little pilgrim) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 10:39:22 +0930 Subject: Sinister: a little more obscura Message-ID: ok this is obviously going to be my theme - short and snappy - i'm not even going to try for sweet because as has been mentioned the twee base is powerfully strong around these parts - and anyway i haven't got much time today to contstruct a...well, a well written post. but yesterday chasing up some obscure mention of foucault (yeah yeah, embarrassing but it pays the bills) and i found a reference to a (guessing from the context this is french and 70s) "religious association for homosexual rights" called "David and Jonathan". unlikely probably that there's a link but you know these coincidences... lp _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sun May 6 02:42:12 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:42:12 +1200 Subject: Sinister: SINIST*R SWELLS IN SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE Message-ID: <002401c0d5cd$e1e0ec40$f46137d2@computer> hello folks **SINIST*R AUCKLAND CHAPTER SWELLS** Yes, as of 3:40pm, there will be another Sinist*r listee in Auckland, as one Mr Sean Hopson arrives in Auckland to travrl up north to be a doctor for 7 months. Hope he's nice ..... I'm picking him up from the airport in a couple'o hours. **MUSIC** Love it. Well, of course we *all* do, but right now I'm going through a big 60's kick and I'm just buzzing out on great music. Current high-rotates include "Pet Sounds" (an oldie but a good, introduced to me about 5 years ago on the s/t of the wonderful Mike Moore film "Roger and Me"), "Forver Changes" (mmm ... with bonus tracks), "Odyssey & Oracle" and "Singles As & Bs" by The Zombies, as well as "Music From Big Pink" and "The Band" by The Band. Damn its good ...... It's funny, I really liked 60's music when I was about 12/13, being too cool/uncool (delete as appropriate) for chart fodder like Def Leppard, Bros etc. The I got into The Pet Shop Boys and took a kicking for it ('"Pet Shop Fags more like ...." they taunted). Then came an extremely short lived Christian Rock phase ... I don't know if anyone else went though that ... along with the perils of youth group and all ... but the music was pretty laughable on hindsight. But it made me feel a little less evil. And then I discovered REM circa "Green", and the Bob Dylan, and it was He who I listened to almost solely for about 3 years, until I heard The Smiths at a party in '92. It it was all uphill from there. But I still love Bob Dylan and The Pet Shop Boys ..... So anyway, where the hell am I going with this. That's right. Anyone following my "adventures" this last yea of so will know I'm getting married in November. We (Vanessa & I) want prerecorded music (versus Organ) at the Catholic ceremony. I'd likeyour suggestions. For the bit when everyone is sitting around when we sign the register, have it witnessed etc. we're going to have Nick Drake's "Northern Sky", and when we depart the church we'll have "Wouldn't it be nice" by The Beach Boys. But ...... CAN ANYONE SUGGEST A SONG FOR WHEN VANESSA COMES DOWN THE ISLE? No silly sugestions please. A good song which is either a) short or b) easily editable into a short segment to use. Say a minute to two minutes. I'd really like any suggestions anyone can come up with. Other stuff ... saw "The Gift" last night, along with Katie Holmes' breasts. Not what I was expecting (the breasts, not the film) Cate Blanchett is great, she'll be ACE in "Lord Of The Rings". Well, off to the airport. hope all is well, Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sun May 6 10:06:53 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:06:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i am the one who's making do....... Message-ID: hi, what a mess... i managed to cry myself to sleep last night. that's the first time it's happened in a number of months. i think i needed it too.. it's silly.. someone i haven't even met before is moving somewhere else. it probably means that i won't hear from them again. but last night, i could feel my heart shattering. the concept of not being able to talk to them again (they're absolutely amazing) was hard enough, but they're moving to some place that i want to go to. more than any place i've ever wanted before. even more than those big pools filled with those wee foam balls. so i was left in tears last night. i think it might've been ok, but for one sentence. "if i don't see you again, enjoy the rest of your life" that's what triggered everything off. i didn't want to have to think about stuff like that. but there's more. i was at this barbeque yesterday, in honour of my friend who is going to the army on tuesday. he's only a few weeks older than me, but he's going away to start the rest of his life. the only other young people there had already left school, and are going away themselves soon. it seems as if i'm the person being left behind, to rot away in the north of scotland for the rest of forever. his dad came up from anpther part of scotland. all that way, just to give him a hug & to see his face light up when he receives the father's present. i was so moved. i've known this friend for 12 years, and that was the first time i'd ever met his father. so i woke up this morning, hardy being able to see. the tears must have dried up in my eyes or something. but i feel so much better. like breathing the air after a huge downpour, especially if there's been lightning. the air's so pure, & it smells gorgeous. anyway, that's what i'm feeling just now. eek, this is a bit too thick for a mailing list. i appreciate it though if you read this. *hug* x x x p.s. everyone should download the Red Bull Doser's 'Me & a Dream Bubble'. i've never heard such a gorgeous song for ages. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sun May 6 12:41:04 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:41:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Graham Cocks On Message-ID: <20010506114104.74114.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinisterines with and without hangovers... Definitely one of the more star-studded London picnic/pubnics of recent times. Not sure which was the more startling: Spotting the skatboardin' star of Coffe & TV's Blur and Graham Coxon's Solo Career or discovering that his drinking buddy is Finley Quaye. But who were the other two?* Tigermilking was good fun. Unfortunately I had to leave early due to constraints of geography and public transport but not before dancing like a loon to Photo Jenny. Yay! Props to Mark, Lucy et al for putting it together. Somebody mentioned wanting to get hold of some Lambchop. Think it was you, yes you, Peter Carter. Let me know and I'll get my magical industry-killing home taping system on to it. Finally, Rob-sized love & ribena** to all the sinisters I got drunk with. You know who you are. Robsta * Steven and Gillian from New Order. Ho ho ho! ** Unless you really hate ribena - as I know some of you do ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Sun May 6 15:20:08 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:20:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I like Pepys Message-ID: <20010506142008.46064.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com> hi sinister, I'm sitting in a hot computer lab trying to work on my essay, which isn't happening, so I thought I'd send off a nice little note to sinister. once I finish this essay, though, I'll be DONE! until september. so the london picnic was pretty ace; mostly it seemed to involve lots of drinking. and walking up large hills. I thought I was going to die. seriously. whose idea was it to put the toilet at the *bottom* of primrose hill, anyway? that shows blatent disregard for the needs of indie people on 5 may 2001, and really should have been thought of beforehand by the london town government people. I'm writing to my congressman or woman. after the picnic was tigermilking, which also involved lots of drinking. funny that. but mark casarotto did a wonderful thing, because I got to show off my keen dancing skills. did you see the guy in the red jumper and flares having a epileptic fit? that was me! now let's have a new york picnic, people... even though I was simply too lazy to go to the last one. I've also adopted a new persona: eric the half a bee. not very creative, I know, but after meeting people at the picnic who had no bleeding idea who I was, I decided I needed a catchier moniker than "eric". I will be taking suggestions for a keen nickname until 15 july. the prize is my undying love, or barring that, a peanut-butter sandwich. I'll be leaving london next week to go back to the land of proper peanut butter, must-see tv, and insanely underqualified heads of state... I'll give you three guesses. alright, it's america, silly. I don't want to go back; does any female-type listee wish to marry me so I can stay? it would make my triumphant return (with any luck) to do an MA that much easier, as well. I'll cook dinner three nights a week. no diapers though; it's just icky. starry-eyed, eric the half a bee ps I met honey! wow. I'm such a dork. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sun May 6 14:22:50 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:22:50 Subject: Sinister: None of this would have been possible without... Message-ID: Hello one and all. I�m just writing to say hello and say thank you to all the people at the picnic and at Tigermilking. I had a great time, and I was worried before that I might not, what with my knee being shagged and all. But the picnic/pub was fun, picturesque, and seeing famous people for the first time was genuinely exciting � I mean, meeting KenPYC after all this time, and then (gasp) Honey! I was a bit of a groupie to Honey at the end of Tigermilking � I went up to him and basically said thank you for setting up the list, and being mum to all of us, and I think he thought I was a drunken fool. Honey, I wasn�t drunk, I was just trying to sound grateful. Oh well� Oh yeah, and Coxon and Quaye were amusing too, even if P. Carter couldn�t seem to utter either of their names below a volume of about a million decibels. Rumour has it that Steve Mason from the Beta Band and the Aphex Twin were spotted at Tigermilking, but left because there were too many i!n!d!i!e!p!o!p tunes, and not enough metal-feedback wankery*. Ho hum� Anyway, thanks to all I spoke to, and whose DJ sets I had the pleasure to witness: Lucy Alder (WHAT A SET!), Cazza, Big Stu, Carter, Robert Smith, Eric from NY, **little** HannahB (wahey!), PF, davidstrangestrange (nice bix) and lots of other people who were there whose names escape me at this moment in time� Right then, I shut up now because this is sounding like the fuckin� Oscars� Love to all, S.x *I love the Beta Band and Aphex Twin � that was not a dig at either band. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark_e_hester at xxx.com Sun May 6 18:40:01 2001 From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 18:40:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hogshead Revisited Message-ID: Assalaamu alaykoom! The Oxford Sinister Short-arse here, avec Picnic Report. Woo! The first picnic of 2001, and boy it was a corker! Not only because of the presence of Honey & Linda, not only because I met so many new people, but also because it was followed by the brilliant Tigermilking. What an amazing selection of music - I never expected all those TV themes (snooker, Scooby Doo, the A-Team) and I was surprised to discover that my Mum's favourite, David "Hutch" Soul's "Don't Give Up on Us Baby" had been treated so kindly by the passage of time. Well done Chris, Kevan, Mark, Lucy and (?) and sorry (?) for not knowing who you are. David Strange Strange showed an uncanny knack for knowing when the next b&s record would be played, too! Highlights of the day included: Peter Carter and Hannah Brown exchanging views on the merits (or otherwise) of the St****p****cs. Spotting Graham Coxon and Finley Quaye outside the Hogshead, together with some bloke with star quality but who Sold Hannah A T-shirt So He Couldn't Be That Famous Could He? Carey's whistle blowing. The Pinefox's colour-coordinated hat/jumper ensemble. The Robsta's dancing. Rip van Phil Two. Discovering that Robert Smith is a North London Lad who name-checked Barnet and Tottenham. It's not really that scary, Sophie. Honest. Apologies to: Mark C for saying I'd play football and then disappearing to the toilet. Never thought to use this ruse to get out of P.E. when I was a nipper, but then the school loos weren't one and half miles away at the bottom of a steep hill. Thanks to: David "Mogwai" Moore for the sweets - yum! Lucy "it's got to be Gordons" Alder for general organisation & motivation and for playing Mint Royale featuring Lauren Laverne - superb. Liz "not short" Daplyn for pointing out that it was *much* better to get the Blue Bus back to Oxford than the Red Bus coz More Night Buses Go To Trafalgar Square Than Victoria! If we have seen further, it is by Standing on the Shoulders of Big Stu. Ma assalaameh, mArk. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com Sun May 6 18:45:30 2001 From: Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com (Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:45:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Art of Happiness on a Saturday Nite..... Message-ID: <84.1588d025.2826e7ba@aol.com> 'allo, sinisterlites!! brief sightings in the city of cleveland: U2 at metropolitan cafe having dinner across from the bar where we were sitting. last thursday they put on a show here and decided to stay a few extra days in the city. photos were taken *discreetly, of course* and will be sent to the album in a few days. my friend matthew and i were torn between giving them their privy or being total teenagers. we opted for the former as the executive chef (a friend of his) told us they wanted to be alone. right then! but their mere presence and my long-time love affair with them put me in a euphoric mood for the rest of the nite as i sipped cosmopolitans and red bull & vodka! ahhhhh.... ya gotta love the irish!! cheers, evie :) "And the East Wind Kissed Him full on the Mouth and said " +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun May 6 19:59:58 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:59:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: To do Message-ID: <98.1456862f.2826f931@aol.com> I looked on my "To do" list and it said "write to Sinister". So here I am, writing. Writing to Sinister, on top of that. Some songs are very good played loud. Really loud. The kind of loud that would make Aerosmith go "Will you turn that down, please? It's hurting my ears.", A Nanny in Manhattan and Summer Babe being the famous examples of the need-to-be-played-really-loud songs. I shall end this shortly, because I have to go read Julius Caesar. However, those new skittles things that come in lime green packages and have sweetish-sour sugary things sprinkled on top are quite good, along with string cheese. Love and kisses Hye Min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Sun May 6 21:28:52 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:28:52 EDT Subject: Sinister: pavement Message-ID: <54.1413b825.28270e04@aol.com> malkmus is great. i went to one if his shows. good fun. in comparison to seeing him with pavement, he looks like hes having much more fun, and i'm happy for him becuase of that i'd say, start off with wowee zowee. i love that cd. so much fun. the new malkmus cd i think seems to be all like ...and carrot rope. all silly and fun and ingenious. get it. every one. its great -sophie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Sun May 6 22:21:57 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:21:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: im so happy cos your so happy, SO SMILE Message-ID: <20010506212157.25039.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> hello, hello i am very happy today because i bought my ticket to go and see a little known band called..hhm..Belle and Sebastian? anybody ever heard of them? i am also very happy because i have, as of tuesday(beacuse i get monday off), only 4 days of school left EVER. i am also very happy because i feel for the first time ever that i just might pass an exam. well thats me happy goodbye ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Mon May 7 00:59:28 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 00:59:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hold your breath child you smell like a peasant Message-ID: <200105062351.AAA18859@missprint.org> Hello smelly people, I am actually quite smelly now as well after a couple of days of fun and joy. A much needed break from this very stressful two weeks. I arrived to London on Friday night in time for a lil' sinister pub karaoke fun, sang along with pretty good, great or even terrific tunes such as up town girl, mustang sally, paranoid android amongst others. Saturday night woke up a bit jaded, but the promise of a picnic spurred me on to wake up, the promise of climing primrose spurred me on to, um, going to the gym every day from now on to build up enough leg muscles for next year. I was a bit unsocialable I think for a while but I did manage to talk to some lovely people after a bit of liquid courage. Then played football and showed off my amazing goal keeping talents that maybe even Alan Shearer would be proud of. Some dude was then drunk and drove his puke over a bridge and then fell asleep. Nice to see a healthy amount of presence from the Nottingham massiv', not to mention the slightly tinier Milton Keynes massiv'! Then we all went away and danced with lovely people at Tigermilking, I think I shouted at one of the DJs to play Terrorvision or something, sorry. :) Big waves to everyone I danced/talked silly things with! Sunday woke up feeling not well and 'king tired, but eventaully got up and had hearty lunch with sweet people, some even tasted of honey. Stevie Trousers was "spared" (har har) from an inevitable defeat at bowling cos the bowling alley was full and so we couldn't play. Then went to a pub with everyone, before reluctantly having to head home at the end. I almost cried when I was waiting for the bus home cos I had such a good time but it was the end (back to Milton Keynes..), but I didn't cos it was a bit too cold for crying, and the fact that I'm not a big girl (Just a small one). Really can't wait until June B&S Gigs, but for now it's back to the dissertation. (Miss Rad btw a dissertation about Sinister et al for academic purposes is indeed quite sad, but take relief in that "Software Simulated Robotic Football" is *way* more sad.. and guess who is doing that?) Grrr... why can't I just study "BSc Red Bull Tasting"? Beer and Wine and Vodka and Red Bulls (and god knows what else) Ken ====================================================================== And with the chance I missed, I feel remiss, It's days and months before I'll see you again. - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Mon May 7 03:47:37 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 22:47:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Let us all raise our glasses to the pancreas, it has never been an organ of distinction Message-ID: <84.158007e3.282766ca@aol.com> Though it functions day by day, in a most convenient way, it has never had the glory that the liver gets. It hasn't you know. Well, it seems my darling listcrush, Peter Carter, made an impression at the picnics as there have been many mentions of him. Hehe, the little charmer. I am eternally jealous of you lucky brits and your picnics so I organized an impromptu picnic with all my friends. The picnic turned to hiking, which lead us to daring eachother to get close to the edge of cliffs then yelling illogical sentences simply to hear them echo back. The boys proceeded to amuse themselves by throwing progressively larger rocks/food items/bits of shrubbery over the cliff for about an hour. The event devolved further as we disregarded all trail markings and hid within the greenery, generally scaring the crap out of eachother and passersby. I tried to get some B&S played, but someone else brought gwar or something and I lost. Phooey. Well, my picnic may not have been Sinister, but at least it was sinister. Now a gargantuan thank you to everyone who sent me ideas for my painting. I haven't decided on anything yet...it could take me years. A particularly astute friend of mine suggested that I paint some pirates as I tend to get excited at the mention of them and never shut up about how cool they were, Errol Flynn included. Maybe I'll paint a pirate reading one of the literary works that was mentioned to me. Love and pleasant echos, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Mon May 7 05:59:21 2001 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 00:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: on canvassing random passersby in regards to the Prozac-ish nature of the Sinister mailing list Message-ID: <989211561.3af62ba983dd2@webmail1.wm.edu> Scene: the last day of classes at the college dramatis personae: me, my friend who may or may not have also been drunk. we were on a bench in the center of campus. I decided, after quite a few vodka tonics, that Sinister, on the whole, makes me quite happy. It's not like I often think about the emotionally affective tendencies of mailing lists, but as implied before, I was drunk. I took action. I was sitting on a bench with my friend, and i started (politely) asking passing students if they would answer some questions. here are some of the exchanges I initiated, pretty much verbatim: me: Hi, what do you think of Sinister? cute girl: ummm, the band? me: no, it's a mailing list. about belle and sebastian. cute girl: who? i thought you meant twisted sister, and were just abbreviating the name. me: no, I would never do that. abbreviate, or listen to that band I mean cute girl: oh. I liked them. (turns and walks away. insouciant coquetry forever ruptured) second group me: hey, what about that Sinister, huh? group of burly frat-boy types: what? are you hitting on us? me: (hurriedly, so as not to be beaten fiercely) no, not at all. i just thought i'd ask your opinion. you know, free and open discussion. group: weird. you're sure you're not gay? cos, the only people we know who do that kind of thing are. me: do what? ask questions? group: (mumbled swears, veiled threats, nervous laughter) whatever. freak. it was a great day. i felt mildly alive. i exhort all of you to try it, but i would advise against doing so without becoming entirely inebriated. as in, if I were to slit your wrists, I could easily pour the sluicing blood into a glass and enjoy a Hemoglobin Mary. yes, that drunk. Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OnLanguage at xxx.com Mon May 7 08:58:34 2001 From: OnLanguage at xxx.com (OnLanguage at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 03:58:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: somehow we always end up out. Message-ID: <6a.ddfd1e6.2827afaa@aol.com> all this talk of faraway picnic-ing has been inspiring - are there any kids in the northwest who'd be interested in getting together? we're thinking early june, seattle. gasworks if it's open, but some other fanciness if it's not. so... possibly june ninth or tenth? and if youve got designs on a different location, let us know. hearts. stefanie and megan. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon May 7 09:56:02 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 09:56:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: picnic footsie Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010507095331.02d29360@mail.unsurface.com> hey - it was quite nice playing football at the picnic on saturday... are there any sorts who'd like to make it a weekly or bi-monthly occurrence? given the vast number of aches i have from just running i figure i could stand a bit of exercise. senor droolcup / chris +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Mon May 7 12:19:32 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:19:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: seven weeks of staying up all night.... Message-ID: dearest sinister, as i write this paul is in his bed. it's 12:05pm. what am i doing being up at this time on a bank holiday?!?! yesterday i had quite possibly the nicest day i've ever had. we had a picnic in princes street gardens, just paul and i, and it was gorgeously sunny and wamr. we watched the wee kids with their over sized nappy bums trying desperately to run to freedom away from their mums. we watched a squirrel running about the bushes and then we watched a seagull fly down and steal my apple turnover thing. not impressed. then we decided to go on one of the edinburgh bus tours which was funny cos the guides microphone wouldn't work and she kept cutting out mid-sentence. but the sun was warm on the backs of our necks, the sky was blue and we are both all in love and stuff. which is great :) seems like there's going to be a mass sinister exodus to glasgow for the b&s dates. i can't wait. AND apparently the Proclaimers are playing at the garage on the 14th of june. how ace is that?!?!?! i think i want to make a weekend of it, go see the proclaimers, doss about glasgow getting a wee bit tipsy* on the friday then see b&s on the saturday. sounds good to me anyways. oh yeah, *B*I*G* H*E*L*L*O* to neil milton :) and andy the velvet coat man. and niall if he's on the list but i'm not sure if he is or not so if he is, hello and if not, well then i guess he won't see this. ho hum. ken should try DT. it's like an imitation red bull only when mixed with vodka it makes you much more hammered than red bull and vodka. believe me, i'm still trying to recover from my DT-and-red-bull fuelled escapades at hefner. cut hand, anyone? getting a hair cut tomorrow. bit scared. your friend, amy xoxoxox _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Mon May 7 13:04:46 2001 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:04:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: I thought Stuart Murdoch was a good person Message-ID: <200105071204.OAA03213@d1o901.telia.com> Hi you lovely people, I'm very envious of everyone who's going to the concerts in Scotland. I really hope B & S will come to Sweden (cause that's were I live, duh). I'm really enjoying the mails that appear on this list. I'm starting to think that maybe this list houses some of the coolest people in the world. But that's just me... Anyway, a friend of mine raised a question a couple of days ago. It's about who the predecessors of twee are. He said Simon & Garfunkle and I had a really hard time arguing with that. What do you think? How come the B & S songs with the strangest name always are instrumental. I mean last year we were wondering why Judy was a dick slap but we never found out why cause the song turned out to be instrumental. And this year they are releasing "Take your carriage clock and shove it" and we all ask why (why you should take your carriage clock and shove it, not why they're releasing the single) ? But guess what, I listened to the song from the Glasgow gig and you know what, it's instrumental. It might not be on the single but it sure looks like it. Are they doing that just to tease us? If that is the case they are certainly very successful. Anyway, hope you're all great. ///Alexander +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lgluhani at xxx.edu Mon May 7 13:40:13 2001 From: lgluhani at xxx.edu (glu) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: twee origins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What about Donovan? I also believe Simon & Garfunkel are a good start from a poppier angle, but perhaps there are some folk historians who could find even more older obscure beginnings for it. Laura ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Laura Gluhanich University of Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon May 7 14:09:12 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Agent Wagon Wheel Message-ID: <20010507130913.19955.qmail@web5301.mail.yahoo.com> I'm waiting. The last farewell was - start again. The first picnic of 2001 was effective in the extreme. The organizers were not where they had told everyone to be at two o'clock, which was appropriate. I wasn't where I had told anyone to be either. I was on time, mind; from time down to mind. I remember that day / I was reading a book / By Ernest Hemingway / She signed it / In her handwriting / Then she went off and became a librarian. Ah: it's middle-of-the-adult, road-oriented rock; but still it moves me. That reminds me: someone in NYC said that 'Spring Rain' was country&western. I was about to say: never argue with Ally96 about the Go-Betweens. Then I remembered that that's all that Ally96 and I ever do. Still, I'm on his side: rootsyish, maybe; full-on country, no. If I'm not mistaken, you misquoted '100,000 Fireflies'. Surely the line is 'sounds like a mountain range IN LOVE', which is a heck of a lot more lateral (yet still 'topographical') and thought-provoking than 'sounds like a mountain range to me'. Lll Lll is starting a Pynchon support group. This will involve people like us paying for Pynchon to carry on shopping. He needs support, now he's retired. I have read enough to Report Back on the phenomenology of the banana stuff, and I'm afraid I have to say it's overrated. Heck, it's the, um, Pet Sounds of Pynchon moments; apart from all the other ones. Plus, also, we should have a support group for ex-Pynchonians - I mean, folk who thought they loved Pynchon, but have just realized that they're *never going to read him agaim*, cos he's too wacky. What will they do with their lives? Bring out magazines and stuff? I seriously doubt it. People said they saw Finlay Quaye, Graham Coxon and 'the Aphex Twin', and, like, don't worry chuck, I really admire their, like music. I don't. Coxon has been involved with a few good records, but is a goofy bastard. The others are worse still. Sod 'em. Look, stop distracting me. It's time to talk about the picnic again. For instance, the way that David SS of the SS had made loads of special biscuits. Where? At his house. Think about it. I tried. Then I stopped. The way that daf m turned up brandishing computer print-outs and asked me to comment on them. I was happy to do so. That's an understatement. I was *merry* to do so. Campbell - not that one; no, not that one; no! not that one either - look - *another* one, OK? - yes, *that* one - gave the lead. Coventry Crumble as Sad Strach Sobs. There was a mysterious presence off of the I Love Music pages of the Freaky Tigger tiger-breeding empire. He was incognito. It was a cameo, if you catch my drift. It was Primroses or Jasmine, sinister village or the Japanese Embassy. He admitted that Lloyd Cole had been consistently Lloyd Cole. More than this I had better not say; I can't afford to blow his cover. Mind you, I don't know what I'm talking about - ----------------------------- 96 INTERLUDE I don't know what I'm talking about. Somebody does. Perhaps. But they're not telling. They're just banking. Somebody has to do it. Don't they? Maybe not. We wondered about it. We're still not sure. We're still standing. That can't be said about Elena, though. ------------------------- no, I don't know what I'm talking about, here, because plenty of people were banging - and I mean, 'banging'; this was a *picnic*, for goodness' sake - on about their intention to buy the S********' LP. I mean, there was even someone who was slagging off Lloyd Cole while declaring that intention. What this means is only hitting me the next day. What does it mean? Ow. Someone went mincing, I mean, camping, I mean, walking, I mean, hiking. Let's offroad. It's gripped. And that's just the handle. Cazza looked unusually tough. Various posters were putty in his hand, which makes a change from china. Somewhere in China turned out to be better than Cabbage Patch Man thought. By the end of that debate - surely the best of its kind since April 1999 - even Cabbage Boy had to admit this, though the Foxgloves also accepted his point about cover versions covering one's perception of a song. Really, cabbage, you made your point and you did it well. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Not that much, anyway. Larry is not a toy he is my friend. I have to hand it to Marvel, the original Agent Wagon Wheel - catch my drift? - who scored a hat-trick and had it stolen from him. By whom? I'm not sure. Could it have been the boy G? Someone told me that the boy G was an 80s revivalist, but that's not such a bad thing. I know a couple of 80s fans myself. And they're aliens. Tigermilking was enjoyable. And that's saying something. I think I finally know what the FT bods mean by a 'Scooby record'. On Sunday we worked out who had plastered the billboards of the 1990s. Now we're past 1990, we need to know these things. Actually, darn it, I've managed to miss out Laura Cantrell, haven't I? Laura Cantrell, who has an initial-sharing arrangement with Lloyd Cole, sings songs a bit like 'Spring Rain', I mean, country songs. It's possible to sing along with her 'Churches On The Interstate' in an appropriately deep voice if you've had a few ices first. We did. Really, I have a lot of time for Cantrell. After that I'm afraid we had to give 'Long Vermont Roads' another spin. I seriously have come to feel that 'LVR' is one of the great driving songs. That's what you would expect it to be, I admit. There's not much counter-intuition going on here. In that respect I'm just trespassing on your valuable spades. The roads are dark and long. So, like I say, David Thomson got his turn. Tarantino got his turn in the grey winter sun of May, for goodness' sake. Remember him? Northern Soul as the other of 'Southern Man'. After that it all went a bit pea-shaped. Some people wouldn't even give peas a chance. We needed to up the potato intake; they seemed to understand. Cabbage Man behaved himself. We thought under clouds about utilitarian designs, housing estates, architecture, that kind of thing. In a boozer the kids behaved themselves - unusually well, I thought, for such a bunch of old lags. Marvel went twisting by the pool table. Cookie looked unusually photogenic flattened over his cue too. Certain people I don't know were diuscussed. Obviously I can't reveal any details. That would be out of the question. Oh, lemur. If we carry on like this we won't need Peter Miller anymore. And then what would become of us? We'd get covered in black bean sauce and fed to the ducks. We are only prawns in their game. It's not over. I'm not even waiting any more. They are. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon May 7 14:27:29 2001 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:27:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The miseducation at Primrose Hill Message-ID: Next edition of Lonely Planet guides are going to include a tour of where/when to spot Sinister meetups and the like, given the number of punters congregated at the top of the aforementioned hill and contemplating a bunch of pasty vegan, sado bedroom devotees exchanging cake recipes ( Liz Daplyn's is the new Delia Smith and r*o*c*k*s!)and discussing the, personally, obscure charms of chippie girl who managed her way to stardom. Was my foul-mouth-ness fuelled by the ingestion of DafM's Celebrations? Or Honey's Marshmallows (no pink ones, weird...)?However, sorry to Mme L' Editrice, Lambeth North inhabitants, Boris Johnsson's enthusiastic followers, whoever the telephatic DJ who matched 'If you are feeling sinister' with my red-means belt. Laura Ll., NY-LON accent and wit is all a modern girl needs. Prof Higgings anywhere? x Arantxa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_s_leak at xxx.com Mon May 7 15:43:00 2001 From: chris_s_leak at xxx.com (Chris Leak) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Function vs Form Message-ID: Evenin Another purely functional mail. Sorry. It's just that I am going to be spending a few days a week down in Bournemouth, with work, over the coming couple of months. Any places worth checking out? To those who pointed me in the diretion of "We Love the City", by Hefner in reponse to my "Painting & Kissing" question, cheers, I bought it yesterday. Even better than "Fidelity Wars". Finally, if any of you are in the region of Castlefield, Manchester on the Sunday of the bank holiday at the end of the month, please check out the Art & Design Market at Dukes. If not for the fact that my lovely lady friend has a stall there (lily b design, www.lilyb.com), then for just checking out some of the other stalls there too. Byee for now.. Leaky _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon May 7 16:58:12 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:58:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 84 sitting, 8 standing Message-ID: <3AF6D422.13003.5422B5@localhost> hello The London picnic was especially tasty. I think I was most pleased to meet so many people who I'd never met before, including some who'd only been on the list a few weeks. I don't think they realised what a seedy world of tweeness and betwetting they were letting themselves in for. The music at Tigermilking was, of course, fantastic, and I did more dancing than I ever did at ATP. So hi to everyone I spoke to. I won't say names because I'll only leave people out, but it was delightful. On the way home I lost my brand new sleeping bag on the tube. It was quite distressing. I don't have much hope of ever seeing it again. As we sat in the train back to Nottingham, it was probably taking part in a controlled explosion. My mum says I've got a letter from the Met Office asking me to go for a screen test. Oh god, I'd better start learing about the weather. What exactly is a warm front? How many degrees Celsius to a degree Farenheit? Has it been cold this year, or is that just our central heating playing up again? They said I'm not allowed to wear anything blue, so after toying with the idea of painting myself completely blue, so I'd just be a couple of floating eyes and a mouth, I went into town and bought a purple shirt. On the bus on the way back, room for 84 sitting and only 8 standing, the man next to me was wearing hearing glasses, but his hair was so long and thick that it filled his earholes so he couldn't have heard anything. I don't know why he bothers wearing them. Robin x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gpallis at xxx.uk Mon May 7 23:52:21 2001 From: gpallis at xxx.uk (Boy G) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:52:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ding dong, the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead. Message-ID: <003201c0d748$626e8040$9f207ad5@default> Anne Boleyn, that is. She had twelve fingers, you know. Including thumbs. I went to the Sinister picnic. Some people there, they knew of the Boy G. They said "Hey, Greg" or "Mr Pallis!" or other such comments. Other people, however, gave blank looks of unknowingness. I have therefore resolved to post more. But it was good, oh yes. Better than Grandaddy even, although not quite as good as A1. I'd rank it level with Ladytron, myself. At the Odeon cinema, the meeting point, they were playing Death in Vegas over the tannoy. This was a good omen. The first alcohol was therefore consumed around 2.10, as the Pinefox led a small exploratory party up the hill. There was jesting about the death of Richard Ashcroft's career, which is always fun. It strikes me that "sinister" would be a good word to play in Scrabble. At the picnic, people talked. Peter Carter claimed to know three people who liked "Beyond the Sunrise". Erica confessed to owning a pair of trainers. Dafyd asserted Kit-Kat chunkies to be the kings of the chocolate world. I ate Haribo. Nice. The football was a triumph. The loathsome black-Tshirt army were annihilated 6-2, thanks to superb goalkeeping from Ken, a pitch-invading defender in a suit by name of Jeff, and Cazza's tactical genius. The Pinefox suggested I stole a hat-trick, but in fact my searing last-minute run was curtailed by a blatant tackle from behind in the six-yard box, so I had to stick with two. Less than Owen. More than Shearer. Stewart and Hayles prepare to rock the Premiership in '02 as Bristol Rovers, my Bristol Rovers, sink beneath the waves. Traitors. Then on to the Spread Eagle, where beer was drunk and a certain rowdy Spanish woman said raucous things about the size of Cliff from Gay Dad's knob. A vote was staged as to the fittest member of S Club 7, and won, inexplicably, by Hannah. Ken attempted to disprove all theories relating to Vodka dilution in one stroke of Red Bull genius, and almost made it, almost. He's a geezer, Ken is. Together, we've vowed nothing shall stop us moshing and headbanging come B&S London. Unless they play Family Tree. Then I, for one, will fall over and theratrically clutch my throat. A look at the half-eaten box of Celebrations revealed Sinisters, on the whole, prefer Maltesers to Bounties, did you know that? You do now. Finally, on to Tigermilking, where there were free Flying saucers. Yum. Blondie, Baxendale and Kenickie were played. And some B&S, also. Carter digged my R'n'B groovings to 'No Diggety', so he made me perform some sort of secret handshake with him. I suspect I may be his blood brother now, or something. After the event, he tried to get me to miss the last tube (caught with four minutes to spare) with talk of "getting some food", so maybe he'd sworn to be my Supervillain nemesis, instead. These things are useful to know. In conclusion, Descartes' family was from Cartes, and Dave Eggers is a poor man's David Foster Wallace. Then we had some tea. Greg. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue May 8 10:20:26 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:20:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: electric honey night in manchester Message-ID: <009a01c0d7a0$5dc05980$be81fc3e@katrina> hi all, just forwarding this on ... cheers, k. *** The 2nd ELECTRIC HONEY - A Night of B & S - is next Friday 11th May @ The Star & Garter Fairfield St Manchester. Admission is £3 or £2 to anyone with a B & S badge or t-shirt ! Starts at 10pm & finishes at 2am. A B & S track every three songs plus loads of related bands/music. (LOOPER/METROVAVAN/GENTLE WAVES/CAMERA OBSCURA etc) Next one will be in September and details will follow soon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue May 8 10:20:18 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:20:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can I get a picnic? Message-ID: Hello there, Is there a Glasgow picnic organised for Saturday 16th June? If so, how did I miss it? Can someone send me the info, and if they can't, how about sorting one out? Can I meet Jenowl? Chris Butler, who is far better at footie than an American deserves to be, suggested playing every couple of weeks. YES PLEASE! I tried to get people interested in this a few weeks ago, but got quite a poor response. If you're in London, are male or female, and fancy a semi-organised game of football every now and then, let Chris and I know and we'll sort something out. I reckon we need a dozen definites to make a go of it. Robinson? Trousse? Brooker? Chu? Taylor? Jones? Smith? Dastoor? Strange? Brown? Parkinson? Norman? Pallis? Come on, there must be hundreds of you! Thanks to everyone who came to TM on Saturday - there were about 70 people there, which isn't bad for zero flyering, three days notice and a venue with no name. Cheers for making it special, y'all :-) Big love, Peter Cetera xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Tue May 8 12:16:46 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:16:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can I get a picnic? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010508120714.03168b00@shell12.ba.best.com> At 10:20 AM 5/8/2001 +0100, Mark Casarotto wrote: >Is there a Glasgow picnic organised for Saturday 16th June? If so, how did I >miss it? Can someone send me the info, and if they can't, how about sorting >one out? Can I meet Jenowl? ya, this would be a good start. even if it merely involves hanging out on the grass, assorted spirits, and bit of football. ah... just the thought reminds me of times when i was but a wee bairn. btw, with all the redbull talk - has anyone had a can of 'whoopass' here? http://www.jonessoda.com/whoopass/index.html (sold in the UK through http://www.jonessoda.co.uk/ ) + senor droolcup [ no lynching allowed ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Tue May 8 13:10:44 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:10:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Slugs and snails and puppy dogs' tails Message-ID: <20010508121044.99381.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone! I will try not to make this post too short. First, a big thank you to everyone who came to the picnic and Tigermilking on Saturday. You all helped to make it what it was, which is to say that it was was a very, very good day indeed. Being picnic secretary, I managed to bring home a few items of lost property. If you are no longer in possession of a hood, a jumper or a kagool, please get in touch with me. No hoaxes please - there are certain pieces of information about the items mentioned above which have been witheld - I WILL know if it's your kagool or not, you will not pull the wool over my eyes, no sir! Sam Walton said > Lucy Alder (WHAT A SET!), Sam, I hope you were talking about the records I was playing ;-) This reminds me to say thank you to Vu for my lovely Sillustration. You gave me a more delicate nose and smaller boobs than I could ever hope for and you are, therefore, my very dear friend. I noticed on Ebay the other day that somebody was selling clocks with the IYFS album cover, featuring the lovely Ciara, on the front - not too expensive, but probably in contravention of numerous copyright rules. I went back to look for it today and it was gone! Sigh, maybe they'll make some more. But then, what should I notice but this - an original Tigermilk, currently at a relatively cheap £62 (it hasn't met its reserve yet though). Anyway, if you're interested, this is the place to point your mouse: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&item=1429406453 Finally, I don't think anybody has mentioned that the delightful Miss Lander is a list mum in her own right - she's set up a Yahoo Club for people going to the Glasgow gigs, so if you're getting all excited and want to babble away about what colour flares the boy Geddes will be wearing, do join up! It's also quite useful for practical information like names of good B&Bs. And it's also fun! Here's where it is: http://uk.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tenbiggestwanks You will notice that the club has a rude name. But of course! Juicy Lucy ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Tue May 8 13:20:57 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:20:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am the best Message-ID: <017501c0d7b9$560a96b0$8dc813ac@bathspa.ac.uk> matchmaker. *** Warning, this will probably be the longest e-mail I ever write to this list and most of it's rubbish/things other people have already said/things people who didn't go to the picnic will have no interest in*** Well, I went to the sinister picnic and, I must say, I have never met as group of more intellegent, interesting, diverse and downright friendly people. Way to go you. I'm currently considering coming down from Blackpool for the last one... if I can. I'd recommend anyone going, it's the best experiance I've had since my first GYBE! concert (magical). I went back to college, and everyone I met asked "How did it go", to which I replied "It was terrible... *long pause while I recieved hugs, sympathy etc*... it was full of Belle and Sebastian fans". One person even replied "Well, what did you expect!?". Ah, I love my friends. Ok, from start to finish. Well, I got on the tube to Kings Cross (changing for Camden Town) and saw a girl in flares, a woolly jumper, with headphone of and a bag of picnic stuff. I asked her if she was going to the picnic on primrose hill, to which she replied "No" and ran away. I got the the Odion about 13:45 and met up with a few sinisteries. All of whom seemed pretty damn great. Much kudos to Hannah for meeting Graham Coxon and the guy from the tindersticks... and bringing the super 8 camera, we await the results. Any chance of posting it in realplayer format and a huge .mpg? I'm a big fan of low speed downloads for film, realplayer sreams are just downright unwatchable. The picnic on primrose hill was also brilliant. As was tigermilking. I was a little disappointed with some, but that's just me being a maul content, because it was actually the best music I'd ever heard in a club. The whole atmousphere was wonderful, the entire place singing along to the rude bit in LLPJ. Erm, thanks to Rob for getting me those drinks I still owe him for, and Robert Smith, for giving me a lot more confidence in my own opinions, and generally being interesting. Oh, and at tigermilking I did a great bit of matchmaking. HannahB, and that Sam guy from Nottingham, were obviously made for each other, and I figured that the two deserved a little bit of happiness. And by the end of the night they were together thanks to me. I think I scared The Boy G, with my constant 'How much do you love me!?' comments to the pair, so I'll shut up about it now. I think that's about it about the picnic, other than the fact that I also did the whole honey groupie thing. I was a little drunk though, though not as much as I deserved to be, given the amount I drunked. Oh, and many many many thanks to Eric for putting me up AND finding by mobile. You're a star. Hopefully I'll be able to get into contact with my lovely Kara soon, before she disolves in her own tears thinking I've deserted her. Ok... on Sunday I went out again. This time to my union. It was full of drunken rugby players who decided to strip halfway through the night. The word for the day is inches, and the number is 2. Anyway, one of my friends had his friend down (called Joe), who is also in a band who are great (Fear of Drugs), and I ended up getting on really well with him. We then proceeded to scare the shit out of a girl called Beth by screaching very loadly to the chorus of 'Maria', at witch point she got really annoyed and said "You're ruining this song", so I said "You love me really" and she said "I'm not drunk enough to say that" and scowled. I followed this up by singing along to the chorus of 'It's raining men' with 'It's raining rain'. Which amused a few people, pissed off a few more and annoyed Beth even more. Later in the night me and Joe drank several Sidekicks, following up quickly by throwing the empty containers into a corner and shouting 'Damn your eyes'. Which was fun. On a totally unrelated note, I have decided to join the capitalist ranks with my own line of t-shirts. Possible ideas for slogans include '......... and only Kevin Costner can save the world.', 'My radiator is leaky', and the complete Great Western Trains emergency instruction. I am not letting the fact that everyone consulted made it perfectly clear that under no circumstances would they buy these items. I'm looking on it as a challenge. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue May 8 21:55:18 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:55:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: californ I A Message-ID: <3AF85D36.11BB@camb.linst.ac.uk> Well, it has to be said i had a top time at that there picnic. every single one of you were lovely and one day i hope we can all live in a big house together and grow lots of strawberries. yes i did meet graham coxon, he signed my purse, and i breifly met that tindersticks bloke who is on one of the front covers. All in all it was a very strange day. Peter carter is brilliant and i think he is sponsored by GSYBE because he mentions them quite a bit (proof in the latest messege). I would have talked to pf more but he scared me.The tigermilkin was ACE i just wanted to cry when they played b&s, they even play a tindersticks song, snif. And i seem to remember being escorted to my bus stop by a limping sweety, who could that be then???????? Thats bout it, hello everyone hopefully this film will look fab. er, yeh muchstuff hannah b +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk at xxx.uk Tue May 8 16:21:11 2001 From: tigermilk at xxx.uk (Nini Kay) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 17:21:11 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Sinister: Can I get a picnic? References: Message-ID: <26924.989335271@www34.gmx.net> Hello and a big BULA to all the lovely sinister people! I'm really happy that I grew up, left the nursery stage and that I'm able now to communicate with the sinister community! and this is my first post ... I really enjoyed to read all your mails, it brightened up my days at work as there are no sinister people (although there are over 2000 working here. well, maybe there's one or two or even more hidden behind the big, big screen ... you never know). Anyway, all this lovely picnic's make me a wee bit jealous and I would have loved to go to the Tigermilking but hey, I remember my mam saying that I can't have everything which is a very true and wise thing. BUT I will go to the Barras on sathurday the 16th so see Belle and Sebastian, I really cant wait, it's only 39 days to go which isnt a very long time if you consider that I've been waiting for over 4 years! Marc asked > Is there a Glasgow picnic organised for Saturday 16th June? If so, how did I miss it? Can someone send me the info, and if they can't, how about sorting one out? < I think thats a great idea, just imagine having a picnic in Kelvingrove Park with lots and lots of nice people before THE gig... I'm already up for it and I'm sure lots of you will as well! uff, that was me and my first post ... I hope I didnt bore you to death and I will apologise the first and only time for my English as its not my mother tongue but that doesnt really matter ;-) anyway have a very nice and sunny evening love Nini Kay -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue May 8 16:41:30 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:41:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's just like watching Terry Gilliam's Brazil Message-ID: Hi again, Sorry to bang on, but if any Lahndoners (including girls! Especially girls, in fact) do fancy playing footie every now and again, please take a sec to join the spankin' new and terribly original *Sinister Fitba* YahooGroup by emailing sinisterfitba-subscribe at yahoogroups.com - that would be smashing, ta. Once we've got a few more players we'll actually see whether we're capable of organising a piss-up in a brewery, or similar. Oh, and Robbo - can you declare the Greenwich picnic date (unless you've done so already, thus rendering this digestive a greater fool than ever before)? Thank you! BG Mark xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Tue May 8 18:01:52 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: twee origins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010508170152.73957.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> twee orgins, this is like the millionth time i have posted on this. It might be best to go to twee.net. They have a bit with the history of twee, since the people who started the site, were heavily involved with the early days of twee and indiepop. These people were the same that had alot to do with the sarah(uk) and bus stop(usa) labels. It might also be helpful to find somebody who was on one of those labels since they generally know alot about the history of twee and indie pop. Generally from the people i know on bus stop simon and garfunkel is probably the earliest influence. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars So many days pass lost in the skyline. Some things still take my heart away and leave me weaping. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From campbau at xxx.uk Tue May 8 17:32:56 2001 From: campbau at xxx.uk (Alix Ure Campbell) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 17:32:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: where's my post vocalic /r/? Message-ID: <200105081636.RAA08763@max.roehampton.ac.uk> hullo i've rejoined on this email address. i haven't unsubscribed on the other on though so really the equation is 'list members = x minus 1' .Or maybe minus lots, depending how many people felt it necessary to subscribe more than once. Anyway, down to business. I should be writing up my assignment right now. It's about Ally Cook and his funny scottish voice. I recorded him saying things like 'douse louse mouse cow' and i have to comment on the significant features. mainly, it's him giggling. only 1500 minus 549 words to go. shit. peter, whom i don't know, said this: >Ah lovely spam which cheered me up. carol prior said: >The Careers Service will be giving a talk on "What to do after an >Art >Degree" on Tuesday 8th May at 12 noon in Lulham. All art >students >welcome. but that wasn't on sinister. I hope the picnic was fun. I was a few miles away at the time, slicing cooked meat and moving boxes around in sub zero temperatures. it seems that i missed meeting lots of new people, but i don't really care. but, hey, i did meet honey. well, i've been listening to a lot of jon anderson's solo work. they tend to be songs that are shorter than 15 minutes. maybe i should have played some at tigermilking. lucy alder appears to be preoccupied with her breasts. i don't blame her. i like the missy elliot song. tomorrow i am going to thorpe park. i want to be scared on rollercoasters. you know, i've never been on one before. the only things that still amuse me are spelling errors and anacoluthons. of people leaving. my flatmate is going back to israel, and i'm sad. they know things, like how to say 'sinai' properly. we are going to get a new hoover though, and name it after her. back to work. fetch me the pro plus, the coffee, the red bull, the speed and the pure adrenalin shots, now! alix.x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yu206292 at xxx.ca Tue May 8 18:11:26 2001 From: yu206292 at xxx.ca (karren) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: nme.com b&s interview Message-ID: <989341886.3af828becc120@mymail.yorku.ca> for those of you who haven't had the chance to read it yet, here is the link for nme's *exclusive feature*/interview with belle and sebastian they promised a while ago: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,27944,00.html its longer than i expected! enjoy, karren +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hugoshannon at xxx.com Tue May 8 20:20:26 2001 From: hugoshannon at xxx.com (Hugo Shannon) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:20:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: debut Message-ID: Hello! A thousand and one apologies if this has gone to the wrong place (my intention is to post to the list), though it is my debut. I'm even making a special effort with capital letters and grammar (but possibly not spelling). All rare things in my e - mails. The picnic in London sounded most excellent fun, I was almost tempted to go, but was a bit scared, and had a wedding to go to as well. Next time definitely. I havn't kicked a football in anger in about 5 years, but I still fancy myself as a bit tasty at the beautiful game (on a tiny pitch and 10 minute halves). Someone mentioned a drink called a sidecar(?) or similar. What is it? - the effects sound interesting. Someone also mentioned stepping on groups of three drain covers. I used to avoid them religously, but some bad things happened anyway, then I stopped avoiding them and nothing particularly bad happened, now I think better safe than sorry, and avoid them when I can (but I don't go to extreme lengths). I've heard that if you step on a single drain cover it will cancel any ill effect of stepping on three drains, and its a good thing to step on two drain covers. I haven't seen any proof of the efficacy of any of this though. I've just heard it from several different people who don't know each other. So just be careful everyone. I'm thinking of taking a week off work (then quitting - another office summer? - Poo more like!)and following the 'seb (sorry!) around for a week of English dates. This is the thing I've most looked forward to in ages. Anyone else have similar plans? Goodbye! Hugo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Tue May 8 21:55:29 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:55:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Splashy picnics and the pizza debacle Message-ID: <3AF85D41.4C860D75@york.ac.uk> Hmmm, where to start. It has been a busy week for me and I'm feeling weary now, only Drumstick lollies and csndy sticks are keeping me awake, but i must must report on events. YORK PICNIC Most of you probably don't realise, but this took place on the very same day as your own fair Primrose Hill event. We had no kites (although we watched someone else flying one) no football and no Tigermilking, but we did have a great time. I can imagine Lucy sniggering as she reads that there were only 11 of us, but i think it was the perfect number! There were enough to make for vibrant sing song and conversation, but not to many so as to leave some poor shy soul stranded on their own, drowning in a deep sea of inaudible chatter. The sun shone bright and the daisies looked lovely as we tucked into our party rings, ribena and that very english delicacy, the jaffa cake. After the initial quiet while people decided they didn't know anyone and didn't have anything to say, the party picked up. I was rather pleased at the quality of non Yorkites who turned up. There may only have been three, but James managed to get from Leicester, Jules from Newcastle and Ryan from Illinois, sort of. Rachel and Feather Boa kindly provided a guitar, which was played for the most part by Mr. S.Hallifax, and I provided album sleeve lyrics and a small violin accompaniment. Everyone sang very nicely, especially Gina, Jules and the quiet singer next to me. When it got cold, we went into the bar, ordered a pizza and dispanded to allow Chris, Stuart, Feather Boa, Dangerous Mike, Rachel and myself to go and cover Is It Wicked Not To Care? Sinister picnicsa are hard to leave though, and before long James was back wanting a room to stay in because he'd missed the last bus/train back to Leicester. It was a lovely day, thank you to all who turned up. PADDLING AROUND ASTRID On Sunday I went to Astrid at Fibbers, who were absolutely brilliant, almost as brilliant as meeting Splash from support band The Asylum Seekers, a sinister member and long time fan. PIZZA DEBACLE Now Stu D is no longer in Belle And Sebastian and what with Peacock Johnson's law suit, he needs a bit of extra cash. I never thought i'd see him working for Ali's Kitchen delivering pizza though! A skinny moussy man whith a whispy beard and wooly hat delivered my pizza the other night, and I was sure it was him, then tonight, as I walked up to this very room, I saw him again, and he was speaking with a wee Scottish accent! That's all I have to say about that. Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Tue May 8 23:13:00 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 22:13:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a black fox fable (delete if you dont like twee stories) Message-ID: Karma was sulking, and the Black Fox had no idea why. She had tried tickling him, but that barely raised a smile. She tried offering him a biscuit, but he munched it so sadly that it brought a tear to her eye. She even wrapped him up in his favourite tartan scarf, the fuzzy, itchy one that he thought made him look bohemian. But he just buried his nose in the fabric and sniffed to himself. She watched as he slid deeper into his spirit ditch. ~What's the matter? Karma looked up at her. -Nothing, he sighed heavily. ~What's the matter? Karma shook his head. -Nothing. The fox clenched her teeth. ~I'm going to keep asking until you tell me. Karma whimpered. -I don't like me, he said finally. The Black Fox was thrown by the bluntness of his statement. ~Why? -Well... I'm cynical, I'm suspicious, I'm forgetful... I'm clingy... I don't like me. ~You're not that cynical. So what if you forget things? Karma shrugged. ~Since when have you not liked you? -Always. It's just... worse than usual. The black fox straightened his scarf gently. ~Did I ever tell you about the reasonable fleas? Karma shook his head. ~There was this dog, and he had fleas. He was grouchy because of these fleas, which was a shame. There wasn't many of them, and they travelled over his body cleaning his fur of dirt and seeds and so on. They were reasonable fleas, you see. It was only fair. The Black Fox licked Karma's ear. ~But the dog didnt notice this, and decided to get rid of these fleas. He went to the park and jumped into the river, and the fleas were washed away. He climbed out of the water and ran around, finally free of his fleas. He rolled around in the grass and splashed in the mud and finally went home. He curled up in a corner of the garden and went to sleep. When morning caem, the dog was nowhere to be seen. His owners searched the house for him, then searched the garden, but he had vanished. -So where was he? Karma pricked his ears up. ~The dog was in the garden. All that grass and mud he'd rolled in got caught up in his fur and, since there were no reasonable fleas to clear the seeds away, sprouted overnight. The dog had grass growing all over him, and looked like any other part of the garden. Finally he woke up and wandered into the house, trailing grass and mud all over the kitchen and scaring hell out of his owners. Karma sniggered. -What happened? ~Well, the dog couldn't roll around in the grass after that. And if he did, they'd give him a bath, and comb all his fur out, which he hated. -What about the fleas? The Black Fox flashed a funny little smile. ~Someone happened upon them... She flicked her tail amiably. ~Just because there are things about yourself that you don't like, it doesn't mean they're not important. They're a part of you. And I like you. Karma blushed bright orange and smiled. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Wed May 9 13:20:03 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:20:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: So that was the first big weekend of the summer... Message-ID: Started as usual on friday with a few beers after work with the borders lot, some of the girls are off to glasgow, so we were saying goodbye to them. Ended up hammered in some dodgy basement club and getting the bus home. Didn't feel too bad on Saturday morning, got cleaned up and got the blue bus with Liz thinking that we'd come back from trafalgar square. Got to Camden by half 2 and met the gang at the Odeon. By the time we got to the top of the hill there was a fair crowd already, so i stood and talked bollocks with cabbage and robbo for a while. Everyone was drinking and laughing and having a great time. Didn't see much of the football, but we heard later that dark shirts had won 6-2. After we'd finished our beers we were all a bit cold, so we went down to the spread eagle and warmed up for the nite ahead. Most of us were quite pished by this point, so we decided to go down to Mark's indie disco. There was lots of dancing, lots of hugging etc etc. I was dancing with some blonde guy who I was later informed was, in fact, Greg Pallis. By the end of the nite i was knackered but still managed a final bop for boy with the arab strap. Got on the bus in trafalgar and some sporto boy had his legs in the aisle. Me and Liz pished ourselves laughing trying to get over him and then I collapsed in my seat and slept all the way back home. It's officially summer. xoxo CarsmileSteve (with the largest of apologies to aiden moffatt) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oooon at xxx.com Wed May 9 14:13:55 2001 From: oooon at xxx.com (oooon at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:13:55 +0700 (ICT) Subject: Sinister: Scottish English Thai In-Reply-To: <003e01c0ceb4$39648ce0$70db3f82@default> References: <003e01c0ceb4$39648ce0$70db3f82@default> Message-ID: <989414035.3af942934a87a@webmail.cscoms.com> Hello everyone, I just see this mail from Karen. i laugh for at least five minutes (see below) thank you. i'm sorry if there's been mail about this already. (i have to read mails randomly, my computer is currently dead. and lucky to see this one) those lovely words were from such distant past that at first i let it past. until the word 'pish' come up. either i've been scottish all along without knowing myself or Mr.Farley is testing a theory on language development, they are not quite scottish english, are they? i think it's back when b&s came to chat with the list people the first time and Stu D left saying something like 'this is pish, i'm going now" and honey ask me how to say those words in Thai. then it got stuck at the end of list mail, much to my merriment. anyone want rude word translate to Thai, please don't hesitate to contact me, free of charge. i miss the list mail. but i've learnt to live without computer. very relaxing. i'm sorry if i've not been writing to some one. or late. everything in my computer is all gone in a non-returnable way. friends please write something so i can have email address again. otherwise, we shall probably be severed until death do us apart. not an unattractive idea for some of you i feel. anyway... Lawrence who is getting married in the south of the globe, i propose God only knows, for the part you ask. in fact, anytime anyplace anywhere is not too much for this song. and it's short too, is it not. i love love this song but not quite remember it. definitely make the best wedding theme still! Congratulations to you and your wife! unsolicited Thai news for this month: we have an elephant orchestra. in fact, we have been having them for a few months now at least. in fact, i might have said this before, and naturally not remember. but nevermind, it's good enough to say again. an elephant orchestra that we have compose of a human violinist, a dozen or more of elephants playing various string, druming, blowing instruments. i don't know how they do it either. but they do! they make perfectly orchestrated sound of music. not exactly western normal instruments though. it's bigger, of course, to make it easier for them to play. and made of big chunks of woods, mostly. it's more traditional Thai instruments. but they're sooooooooooo cute! standing in the field, surrounding the violinist, playing their things, looking extremely concentrated. far more entertaining than seeing B&S playing, if you ask me. me who can not go to see b&s play. they will release an album too. or have. i suspect that normal won't carry it. and it's a bit odd to go ask for an album by a bunch of elephent and a violinist. speaking of violin, tv have a music teacher showing his new invention, a violin made from bamboo, which he called Bamboolin. isn't that pretty name? speaking of tv, there's new japanese tv called "The room". in which they show a room and some details of the room to a bunch of people and they will guess who the owner does for living, what they are like, etc. god only knows what i'd be without tv. japanese tv is the best! speaking of tv, ..i'm only kiding really. i'm not going to speak of anything anymore. until next time. a nice day to you all, oon xxx On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:51:38 -0400, Karren Gill wrote : > Well, much thanks to Charlie Farley and vodkabird, we now know > that "Nee, > nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa" means something along the lines > of "no, no > man" (for the first part) then "this is shite, i think i'll > leave"..i'll > let Charlie handle the explaining part cos he does a good job: > > > > It's scottish english, written phonetically...not sure what > it means in > > its > > > entirety, but the first bit is something along the lines of > "no, no > man, > > > bollocks" or similar. > > > > > > "pish" is piss, used as an adjective in a similar way to > "shite", or > > > alternatively used to disagree with somebody - I think > that's how it's > > used here. > > now i can finally rest. > > karren > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list > +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To > unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper > +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged > fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April > 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May > 2000 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa > +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonathan.skinner at xxx.net Wed May 9 18:11:01 2001 From: jonathan.skinner at xxx.net (jonathan skinner) Date: 9 May 2001 18:11:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: got the new garbage trucks?are they amphibious..beautiful. did you get the new uniforms ? do they match the suede boots? if not we can always get more Message-ID: <20010509171101.1038.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From David1822 at xxx.com Wed May 9 22:59:55 2001 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: picnice Message-ID: <31690146.989445595504.JavaMail.imail@sammy> hullo lovely list type people, i had a wonderfully pop tastic time at the picnic on saturday it was so swell catching up with old friends and making a few new ones,it was swell to see erica (even though she probberly wont even see this post) and archel at the picnic and lods of other cool cats,infact everyone there was lovely,in case you hadnt guessed i had quite a splandid time (stops ranting about the picnic),oh and my biscuits were grate too even though they tasted to me like scones i dont blame anyone for not touching one but thanks to everyone who said they were lovely i appriaciate it. Tigermilking was as good as the picnic but my last rant proved how good the picnic was as so if i went on about tigermilking id just bore everyones red sinister pants off,so i wont,sufface to say it was pretty special singing along to boy with the arab strap and hearing the scooby doo theme tune was pretty ace as well.Thanks to Mark for sorting it and cheers to all the dj's for makng me dance i should probberly actually thank my legs for making me dance but your music helped too im sure. I went out on bankholiday Monday in the evening got very drunk and fell over and split my heaad open,i was rushed to the local hospital and had to get 5 stiches in my head there was loads of blood and other nasty stuff,my head is still a wee bit sore but is ok now you'll be relieved to hear.it was the cocktail i had with 5 different spirits in it that done me in i think,so sinister be carefull when you drink,please. a picnic get-together before the show in glasgow sounds ace as well,i cant wait to see the belles,i hope they play lazy line painter jane that would be............ guess what swell. love and scone-type biscuits to you all, Daf xx P.s allie im sending your videos back im sorry i forgot saturday id had one too many drinks by the end of the evening. p.p.s thank you jim for giving me somewher to sleep _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MIWinship at xxx.com Thu May 10 02:15:08 2001 From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:15:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: Thunder & Lightning....not particularly frightning Message-ID: <3c.b7158e2.282b459c@aol.com> As I write, the most amazing thunderstorm I think I've ever known, is doing it's thing. Walking home in the rain, whilst proper forked lighting illuminated the sky from all sides and the surround-sound bettered any Dolby equipped cinema, it occured to me how easily we are pleased by loud noises and flashing lights....... Thus spake zarathustra: PICNIC So, some of us had to work this weekend, and didn't get to destroy their nervous systems with 72 hours of alcohol treatment. I have seen the results on several of you and don't envy the after-effects, even though I'd have happily joined in, if I could... Next stop Greenwich then, and I'd better be able to make it to my own 'hood'... SENOR DROOLCUP I've heard about you TAPE CHALLENGE I'm applying the final touches to my entry, so halt that judging Ms Llew. Suffice to say, it's a good-un and I have observed the rules properly. Perhaps I shall set my own challenge and thus aquire a large amount of new music for free... Actually, I might. There has to be a theme, though.... Well, the storm has passed and it doesn't look like there will be a rain of frogs (or plastic 'dinosaurs') so, that's that then. Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu May 10 13:37:52 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:37:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Competition (fwd) Message-ID: Hello :) See below for a chance to win tix to the Scotland gigz. There's an "absolute scoosh of a pish-easy question" to answer, apparently, which makes me think of something warm trickling down a trouser-leg. Anyway. Such language may be set up to favour the native population, but list members clearly have a headstart with the term "pish", even Thai ones. Nee, nee mun pish. Elephants blowing trumpets through their bums! Did I misread? Big "awwwwww yeah"'s to everyone I met at the London Pic, including those who I was told were who they were *after* we parted. I am a little shamed to have not said hello to a few. Hello! I can be shy too. Don't trust that temporary list mummy Linda, she's compiling dossiers on your all: I've seen them under the stairs, marked Top Secret, full of red ink. She told me she was going to change the B&S list to be a Black Sabbath list, honestly. She's taken to wearing false moustaches. Protect your rights. Anyway, I'm off for a scoosh, Honey xxx P.S. Eurovision Song Contest! Saturday! 8pm! Come to the #sinister chatroom in the national costume of the country of your choice and JOIN IN! Fringed boots are especially welcome. Royaume-Uni... nul points. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:58:08 +0100 From: Stevie Whiteford To: "'honey at missprint.org'" Subject: Belle and Sebastian Competition Hello, Just a wee note to let you and your web community know that the Session in Scotland website is currently running a Belle and Sebastian competition, with a veritable bucket full prizes- entailing a pair of tickets to every single Scottish gig on the forthcoming tour. Here's the link - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/session_scotland/index.shtml The competition closes on Thursday May 17th...hurry, hurry. Cheers, All the best, Stevie Stevie Whiteford BBC New Media Scotland Tel. 0141 338 3272 stevie.whiteford at bbc.co.uk This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meanies at xxx.uk Thu May 10 15:14:36 2001 From: meanies at xxx.uk (Mick Cooke) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:14:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Amphetameanies at King Tut's Message-ID: The Amphetameanies are playing King Tut's in Glasgow on Saturday: Saturday 12th May 2001 King Tut's Wah Wah Hut St. Vincent Street Glasgow With the Newtown Grunts and The Dangerfields Tickets available at usual outlets, Virgin, Missing etc 4.50pounds (5 pounds on the night) Doors 8.45pm Cheers, Mick -- meanies at redfoot.force9.co.uk http://www.amphetameanies.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com Thu May 10 14:54:35 2001 From: alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com (Chris shaft) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:54:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: gig list Message-ID: what songs would u all want played at the gigs? I'd shit in yer face if ye said 5,6,7,8 by steps, but I think a cover of s-club party, maybe nu-metal stylee, would be in order, stuart... And a 30 minute farting solo, accompanied by crowd body percussion (the belly button has so many uses.....).... Is anyone definetly organising a meetup on the 16th (and 15th too, if ye like, son...)? there is a thread on jeepster for it, so whoever is interested can write 2 it. Probly Kelvingrove park again.... (prays 4 NICE weather...) anyhoo, why doesn't everyone send me a top 5 songs 2 be playedat the gigs, and I'll compile it, painstaikingly into a list, and sent it back to the list.... crazy cover versions also allowed.... chrreeez. ugs _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meanies at xxx.uk Thu May 10 13:09:12 2001 From: meanies at xxx.uk (Mick Cooke) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:09:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Amphetameanies at King Tut's Message-ID: The Amphetameanies are playing King Tut's in Glasgow on Saturday: Saturday 12th May 2001 King Tut's Wah Wah Hut St. Vincent Street Glasgow With the Newtown Grunts and The Dangerfields Tickets available at usual outlets, Virgin, Missing etc 4.50pounds (5 pounds on the night) Doors 8.45pm Cheers, Mick -- meanies at redfoot.force9.co.uk http://www.amphetameanies.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu May 10 18:33:27 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:33:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i wish it was the sixties, i wish we could be happy Message-ID: <65CF858076545D1168550005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> spring is here, and everyone is a hippie. i feel it's time to leave, so it looks as though i'm going to meet up with my dear friend aimee in ireland as soon as school is finished. i have a new job at a bakery, and it's not so bad except that it's attached to a little fish market, which reeks, and it's in a stuffy village full of rude people. there is one other employee who likes belle and sebastian, and we keep trying to get our boss to play it in the store...it seems that with a 200-disc player there should be room for more than the five semi-quality albums currently in the loop, but alas, we can't get anyone in authority to replace peter frampton with tigermilk. oh well, i won't be working there much longer...i am happy that i will be getting out of the usa in a couple of weeks. my mom says she's worried i'll come back "more dissident than ever." she's probably right...have a wonderful day, everyone kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Thu May 10 20:43:02 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Picnics are rubbish Message-ID: <385182522.989523782570.JavaMail.root@web597-mc> OK I don't really hate picnics but then everyone has been saying how cool it was on Saturday so I couldn't do so without the risk of boring you. That is why I will not go forever on how great it was. Still I owe an apology to everyone I have been hugging too much or talking rubbish too: I didn't mean it I swear, I was just very drunk (Phil has to carry me home he can testify). So if I behaved badly to you I am soooorry :) Today I got some photos developed and there is a picture of my mum waving in front of Buckingham Palace: I win so far the contest of 'most turistic and silly picture of the year'. As Larry received all week end affection and love from lots of people, he decided to manage his fan club: you can email him at ilovelarrythefrog at yahoo.com and he will be pleased to answer. Of course he will not answer any insulting email calling him a 'plastic dinosaur' or anything similar. Talking of frogs I saw a man on the tube this morning with tissues with frogs on it. Just like normal paper tissues, but all blue with some green frogs. I was of course green like a frog of jealousy. I still can't believe I drank so much over 72 hours last week-end. My body is made of iron, probably. Elena xx ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu May 10 23:46:50 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:46:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Up Pompeii Message-ID: <000d01c0d9a3$1cea7d00$64ac7ad5@default> Hi All, Those clever Segundosdeluz people have a picture of the Jonathan David cover in the files section of their site already. Very Frankie Howerd, Mr Cooke. But who are the other two people in the photo? Katrina normally answers these questions for us, I think :) That's all really. I wasn't at last Saturday's picnic long enough to have much juicy gossip for you, & the little I have I'd better keep to myself. It *was* great to see such a good turnout though, and to be blessed with the presence of our two List Mums. Next one in Glasgow on the 16th of June, is that right Carey? Better go, as (unlike true love) time waits for no-one. Love, CD:UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ojh9 at xxx.uk Fri May 11 01:53:42 2001 From: ojh9 at xxx.uk (Jonathan Howell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 01:53:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Octopus should not be eaten semi-raw. Message-ID: <003b01c0d9b4$d3047800$4d08020a@.aber.ac.uk> No indeed... and this goes for many other foods too. As for the octopus... yuck yuck yuck. It was all oily (having been fried) and really was half raw. All the cool kids were doing it, and I caved to peer pressure. I think that the dubious decision to add beer to the pan as it fried was quite silly really... right then. The odd thing is, I really didn't realise that I was drunk until the next morning when I woke feeling slightly delicate. THE ABERYSTWYTH PIC-A-NIC: was a roaring sucess. Everyone who went really enjoyed it. Of course none of them but me knew it was a sinister picnic. That's right, I made my friends go on a picnic. Yes, so admitedly they'd been lured their under false pretenses, to them it was just a picnic (nothing sinister about that) ... well actually it wasn't even that, just a group of us sharing chocolate digestives and watching the sun set over Constitution hill... That was the best I could do. I enjoyed it anyway. YOU'RE KISSING YOUR ELBOW: This has probably come up before at some point... but In the shower the other morning I was singing happily, and discovered that it is in fact impossible to kiss your elbow. The closest I can get is to kiss my elbow-pit. In my early morning state I briefly thought maybe I should kiss my elbow's reflection, but realised that you can only kiss your lip's reflection. It's true you know (of course, I don't think that the song is actually about kissing a mirror anyway, I was just working on a literal level for a time). Anyway, I hope thet you all try this out, and if anyone is flexible enough to manage it, then please let me know. (I'm hoping that no-one really wants to see a picture of my elbow, it would be a little silly to post it to the site now, wouldn't it... wouldn't it really). TAKE YOUR CARRIAGE CLOCK AND SHOVE IT: is in fact NOT an instrumental, at least not the version on the single. A promo copy landed in the office the other day, and I promptly scooped it up. I think I probably made some odd noise as I did so. I the ran all the way back to my halls happily. I was excited. Lovely. When I went back to the office later, comment was made about how none of them had seen me looking that excited/happy before. JONATHAN AND DAVID: Is actually called Jonathan David (no and, & or +). It's a song about crushes and unrequited love. The Jonathan/David thing is really a metaphor for the interaction between two people, there's not really a biblical aspect to it. The line the title comes from "I was jonathan to your david" is probably a biblical ref, but I'm not too up on the bible... can anyone help me out there? David slew golliath and became king right? Who was Jonathan (in relation to him)? (I should probably know, it is, after all, my name) Anyway, It's love, pure love. I'm quite happy about that to be honest... Love works well for me. Hope that you're all very well and having a great time. Love... Jonny. "No talkin', Bailey's walk." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Fri May 11 03:02:40 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:02:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I've packed a change of clothes and its time to move on Message-ID: <1351530E.6CEE5AE0.4EB512AD@netscape.net> A big cheery its-almost-winter-here hello from brazil, All this talk of picnics makes me rather jealous. I can't remember last time I actually went to a picnic but it must've been ages ago. The talk of gigs also makes me want to swim up to Scotland, but me and a friend (hello Pedro) are trying to plan a vacation trip up to the London, maybe, to see a gig. Far from set in stone, you see, but i'm really hoping. Apparently there was a duo called David et Jonathan, i'm assuming French. They did a song calledLovers of the World Unite, apparently in 1966. They also do a song called Michelle; by the time i'm done writing this mail it should be done downloading so i'll find out if its a Beatles cover or not. The Little Black Fox fable was very very pretty. Thanks for that. Well, Michelle's done, and it is a Beatles cover. Rather odd, too, but kinda nice. I felt rather twee this afternoon when watching the young'ins at school perform Annie the musical (i worked the curtains: its fun until the ropeburn kicks in) and near the end i was nearly in tear-shedding mode. I dont think it was the actual play, just that it was really nice to see the kids all having fun and...well, being kids. Except, of course, for this kid who played the butler. He acted all tough and tried to stir up trouble backstage. I hope he doesnt grow up to be a hard kid, because i have a feeling he'd be rather good at it. Lately, i've been listening to a lot of Death Cab for Cutie, and I second whoever recommended them (i think it was Mr. Peter Carter); they are indeed very very good. My headphones broke this morning so on the bus home i had to listen to Boy With the Arab Strap, Right Channel remix. Terrible things happened*, like Stuart David speaking alone with just a drumbeat in A Spaceboy Dream. Weezer's swinging through London early July, for those of you who don't hate them. My friend's stepdad's british and, judging from his copy of an English newspaper, your crossword puzzles are very very difficult.And on that note, i'll depart... I love you all Mike K. * a brownie point to anyone who caught that one __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com Fri May 11 04:58:51 2001 From: Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com (Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:58:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: I've packed a change of clothes and its time to move on Message-ID: <28.150e31c4.282cbd7c@aol.com> i second the recommendation that EVERYONE should listen to death cab for cutie! they are sooo phenomenal!! hindsight and underwater are my two favourite tunes, and boy are they excellent on stage.... woo hoo!!! okay enough raving :) anyone from toronto??? i'm heading up for an extended wkend with my best mate. we have no plans but being intoxicated most of the time. i'm driving my brand new vehicle :) so i imagine most of the time will be looking for an available hostel or boarding room. *if you decide to put up with us for a few nights, i would be ETERNALLY grateful :)... post me off list* well, i'm off with my friend mathew to visit some watering holes... cheers & many good nites, evie :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Fri May 11 09:00:27 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:00:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hangovering days are sober Message-ID: <200105110751.IAA18833@missprint.org> Hello, Procrastination really often creates rubbish acronym sentences that i nastily always type into others' notes. So Lixi joins the ranks of people who uses sinister to further their educational achievements, maybe I should too, will Mark Gazzarotto mind if I modelled my computer football player's tackling skills on him? :-) Or maybe I SHOULDN'T because as of this minute I've FINISHED my dissertation! It's a pile of bawbags, but it's finished so yippie! Okay I haven't slept for 24 hours typing up this (my dissertation not that acronym thing) so I'm going to bed now good night. Sweet Dreams and Red Bulls Ken ====================================================================== I saw you in a Japenese Restaurant, you were doing it for businessmen on the piano belle, you said it was a living hell - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Fri May 11 12:27:08 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:27:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian Announce UK Tour Dates Message-ID: <004701c0da18$d0386140$9304fd3e@katrina> We can now confirm the dates for Belle & Sebastian's UK Tour as follows: June 9th Dunoon Queens Hall - 01369 702 800 June 10th Perth City Hall - 01738 629 730 June 11th Dunfermline Carnegie Hall - 01383 314 000 June 14th Aberdeen Music Hall - 01224 641 122 June 15th Glasgow Barrowlands - 0141 332 4400 June 16th Glasgow Barrowlands - 0141 332 4400 June 26th Scarborough Futurist Theatre - 01723 374 500 June 27th Preston Guildhall - 01772 258 858 June 29th London Royal Albert Hall - 020 7589 8212 - Tickets cost £14-£16 in advance and are also available from Ticketmaster: 020 7344 0044 and Stargreen: 020 7734 8932 July 1st Cardiff St David's Hall - 029 2087 8444 July 2nd Birmingham Alexandra Theatre - 0870 607 7544 July 3rd Bournemouth Pavillion - 01202 456 456 July 5th Ipswich Regent Theatre - 01473 433 100 PRIORITY BOOKING ONLINE VIA: www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home All tickets cost £11 except London and are subject to booking fee All tickets available from Wayahead: 0115 912 9000 and Ticketweb: 020 7771 2000 Buy tickets for all shows online at: www.meanfiddler.com www.ticketweb.co.uk www.gigsandtours.com www.ticketmaster.co.uk Belle & Sebastian coachline: 0115 912 9120 Belle and Sebastian also appear at the Benicassim Festival in Spain on August 4th. Information on the festival can be found online at www.fiberfib.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phil-two at xxx.com Fri May 11 13:57:11 2001 From: phil-two at xxx.com (Phil Two) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 05:57:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: More picnic musings. Message-ID: <20010511125711.DBIU10107.mta05.onebox.com@onebox.com> OK, so its a week after the picnic, and I am now fully recovered. It was really nice to get away from Paris and see friends and meet new people - except I don't really remember much from about after 3pm. Must apologize to all the people who came back from football to find their half-empty bottles of red wine missing. I get a bit kleptomaniac when Im drunk.... Except if it makes anyone feel better, I paid for it in the end. Like passing out at 6pm and waking up in the middle of Tigermilking. That was me curled up fetal-positioned in the chair by the entrance... OK, and also, it seems I woke up the next morning with a phone number in my pocket. Except whoever it was, I must also apologize for interrupting whatever the hell I was interrupting when I called the next day. Whoops. So, I hope to see you all again in Glasgow for the gigs - and I promise to be a bit more sober this time. Love, Phil __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Fri May 11 14:05:35 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:05:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Up Pompeii Message-ID: <009b01c0da1b$11eb9d80$9304fd3e@katrina> hello ... per mr. moore's message, the other two people in the picture are belfast bob and gill. belfast bob is in v-twin too. two posts in one day - sorry mum's :( cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri May 11 14:12:44 2001 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:12:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: bugger...thwaites. In-Reply-To: <004701c0da18$d0386140$9304fd3e@katrina> Message-ID: <20010511131244.83056.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com> CHUFF! ING!!! HECK!!! > June 27th Preston Guildhall - 01772 258 858 I wasn't going to go, but this is just GAGGING for it. Who else is up for PRESTON!!! Peter Miller... you're needed. OH THIS IS INSANITY but I love it. LOVE IT! Sarah xx ===== Write to Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/group/starsdeluxe "luxe, calme, et volupte" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartf1 at xxx.com Fri May 11 14:16:56 2001 From: stuartf1 at xxx.com (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:16:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Take Your Carriage Clock To Paradise... Message-ID: <002801c0da1c$af137000$b230883e@freeserve.co.uk> On hearing "Take Your Carriage Clock.." for the first time I was quite surprised how similar it is to the 70's easy listening fave (I've Been To Paradise, But I've) Never Been To Me. I can't remember who released the original, but think it was on Motown in the mid-70s, when they had too much Lionel Ritchie and got decidedly sloshy. Has anyone told Stuart Murdoch about this, and perhaps more urgently, instructed his team of lawyers?! At least "...Middle Distance Runner" sounds absolutely divine, and good to see they're still taking risks by releasing an A-side in the minor key. Stuart +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JLane at xxx.uk Fri May 11 14:25:02 2001 From: JLane at xxx.uk (Lane, James) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:25:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bugger...thwaites. Message-ID: <200D934D6F9E93488C71C4FAE879C8AA6C9BE5@rcs_exchange.rcseng.ac.uk> THE TICKETS DONT APPEAR TO BE ON SALE YET PEOPLE, I HAVE TRIED ALL NUMBERS AND WEB PAGES, 9 TOMORROW I THINK!!! GOOD LUCK, ALBERT HALL HERE I COME!!! -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Clarke [mailto:starpiekat at xxx.uk] Sent: 11 May 2001 14:13 To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Sinister: bugger...thwaites. CHUFF! ING!!! HECK!!! > June 27th Preston Guildhall - 01772 258 858 I wasn't going to go, but this is just GAGGING for it. Who else is up for PRESTON!!! Peter Miller... you're needed. OH THIS IS INSANITY but I love it. LOVE IT! Sarah xx ===== Write to Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/group/starsdeluxe "luxe, calme, et volupte" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri May 11 14:41:17 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:41:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gigs... Message-ID: Just a quick one to say that the tickets for the London show don't actually seem to be on sale yet (friday 3 pm): The girl at the Albert hall told me that she didnt have it on her computer whilst ticketweb's phone line guy said they didnt have a date. And none of the websites seem to have put it up there yet... Not sure about the situation with the rest of the country Sorry to waste the time of anyone who didnt plan to go to it... Paul _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sosaidkay at xxx.com Fri May 11 14:53:23 2001 From: sosaidkay at xxx.com (Matthew Stead) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:53:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tour Message-ID: Honey people, Anyone got through to anywhere selling tickets for London? The Albert Hall denied that the date even existed as have the ticket agencies and I can't get tickets for it from any of the online websites shown. Ooh I'm just too impatient but I have to go. Any ideas? Toledo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ivyivyivy at xxx.com Fri May 11 15:07:20 2001 From: ivyivyivy at xxx.com (ivyivyivy at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:07:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: desperately seeking adam Message-ID: hello list, i was on the list earlier, i guess noone remebers me, but my old adress stopped working, so i had to change. oh well. ooh, tour dates, and i might even be in london then! hurrah! if i get the job i applied for, that is. two months taking care of a one and a half year old girl :) i should know if i get it or not sometime next week, and if i get it i need help. where are all the ace record shops, and where do you get the nicest clothes? how do you carry your bag so noone will steal it? how do the buses work? in other words. EVERYTHING. hm. nothing more to say, oh yes! i was supposed to exchange mix-tapes with a guy from the list, his name was adam c... something with a , his tape is finished, but i've lost his adress, and i can't find the envelope he sent my tape in either, but he lived in norwich, that much i remember, so adam: if you see this, mail me your adress off the list, and i'll send it to you as soon as possible xoxo hanna .................................... Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Fri May 11 14:40:12 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:40:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: sinister: only for the really nice people from london area Message-ID: <200105111342.f4BDg0Z14879@wn1.sci.kun.nl> ok, I do not know if I can really ask this, but: if I would come to the B&S show in London the 29th, would there be anyone that would offer his/her floor for the night? And what would such a nice person charge (in money or anything else I can get my hands on in Holland)? If you want to know more about me before making sa decision, please send me an email. Many thanks in advance. marc (marcbots at sci.kun.nl) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Fri May 11 14:39:33 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:39:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s gigs p.s. Message-ID: <00f001c0da20$8b45f400$9304fd3e@katrina> Tickets for the Scottish shows are on sale now, the England/Wales dates tickets will be on sale either on or before Tuesday 15th May. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewbutler at xxx.com Fri May 11 15:10:01 2001 From: rewbutler at xxx.com (Rob Butler) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:10:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tickets for the gigs!! Message-ID: According to the Jeepster page, tickets for the England / Wales gigs go on sale on (or before!) Tuesday 15th May. Okay, so this didn't take me 15 mins, but hopefully it'll save lots of other people 15 mins wasted time trying to buy tickets NOW!! (like me). Cheers Rob >From: "Lane, James" >Reply-To: "Lane, James" > >To: "'Sarah Clarke'" , >sinister at missprint.org >Subject: RE: Sinister: bugger...thwaites. >Date: >Fri, 11 May 2001 14:25:02 +0100 > >THE TICKETS DONT APPEAR TO BE ON SALE >YET PEOPLE, I HAVE TRIED ALL NUMBERS >AND WEB PAGES, 9 TOMORROW I THINK!!! > > >GOOD LUCK, ALBERT HALL HERE I COME!!! > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sarah Clarke [mailto:starpiekat at xxx.uk] >Sent: 11 May 2001 >14:13 >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: bugger...thwaites. > > > >CHUFF! > >ING!!! > >HECK!!! > > > June 27th Preston Guildhall - 01772 >258 858 > >I wasn't going to go, but this is just GAGGING for it. Who else >is up for >PRESTON!!! Peter Miller... you're needed. OH THIS IS INSANITY >but I love it. > >LOVE IT! > >Sarah >xx > > >===== >Write to Stars de Luxe! > >http://www.egroups.com/group/starsdeluxe >"luxe, calme, et volupte" > >_ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Fri May 11 16:24:34 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:24:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ipswich Gig Message-ID: <00256A49.0053E434.00@mailgateold.mandg.co.uk> Old man Moore (who will be a whole year older tomorrow) has asked me to send you this because he can't post at work. 'let them know that you *can* book tix with the Regent Theatre in Ipswich & the nice lady only charges 25p booking fee. You get to choose your own seat, too! Seat A12 is the middle of the front row, apparently :) Larry is a star. Love DM C, UK' I think we are all going to have to be patient about the London tickets, a reliable source tells me they will be available on Tuesday at the latest, probably before then though. Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 20018523 at xxx.uk Fri May 11 17:36:51 2001 From: 20018523 at xxx.uk (Peter Woolley) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:36:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I can bend spoons with the power of my mind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <><> the time is here for my first message. <><> Hi to everyone I met at the picnic ! One night in Feb, as the nation brushed its teeth and fluffed up its duvets, John Peel played what must be the most enchanting song - ever. It was "international lover" by Riviera, best of luck to the group. P. -X- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Fri May 11 17:28:23 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 11 May 2001 17:28:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Royal Albert Hall ??? The place where Chris de Burgh played ???? Message-ID: <20010511162823.6470.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From shewitt at xxx.uk Fri May 11 16:57:33 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:57:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: woo and indeed HOO!! Message-ID: ello (rather inevitably) babies Ooh I've never been to the Albert Hall, I'm feeling slightly giddy already :) Also, from the website (I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it here): Neil says: For the record, yes, we will be coming to the US later on in the year. As soon as I know where and when it will be up on the site. Thai Elephant news There was a pic in last Saturday's Grauniad of the winner of the IMF ("I am fat" apparently) Beauty Competition held recently in Thailand. The winner, a rather happy, well built young lady, gets to travel around thailand promoting elephant sanctuaries and other be nice to elephant stuff. I saw this on the way to the picnic, but forgot until oooooooooooooon posted. If you go to the official eurovision website, there is a voting form you can download (and you can listen to all the songs too). "Tuesday at the latest", typical! ;) xoxo CarsmileSteve Oh and big up the Scarborough massive, if there is one? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri May 11 18:34:31 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:34:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I wasn't born so much as I fell out Message-ID: Hello all I am warning everyone that this post has nothing of relevance in it. Well, it took me all week, but I finally had time to get through all of the posts. I, like everyone else who didn't go to the picnic, is envious of those who did. Instead, I was in Atlanta at a Badly Drawn Boy show, where I saw two people with B+S shirts on, one of which I talked to for quite a bit. The one I talked to was from Birmingham, Alabama. It's so strange to find B+S fans in the south. I didn't ask him if he was on sinister though. It's so eggciting that the oh-so-famous Laura Llew quoted one of my posts. It brings a smile to my face. Death Cab for Cutie rock! I had a chance to see them a few months ago, but I didn't. :( I just received an Aisler's Set CD, but I haven't listened to it yet. I will remedy that soon though. I highly recommend the new Stephen Malkmus to everyone who does not have it yet. 'tis good. Johnathan in the Bible was David's best friend growing up. He was also King Saul's son, which made him kind of an enemy. Johnathan was eventually killed in battle if memory serves me correctly. I have been told that Manchester is "a bit dodgy", is this true? I wanted to check out Furrymania over there while I was in the UK. Weezer rocks, I don't care what anyone on here says! Although MTV has to edit out the word "hash" in their new video, which is just plain stupid to me. Enough time wasted, back to werk. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri May 11 19:02:27 2001 From: bellezc at xxx.com (Zoe) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:02:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: grumble grumble mutter mutter..... Message-ID: hello all...i just want to express my deep indeed sadness for I won't be able to attend any of the concerts because I'm leaving the country on 15/6.And the show in Birmingham is on 2/7. I'm quite sad indeed.Quite sad.I'll go now and put my head in the oven and switch on the gas.Not that i've taken the whole matter that seriously but you know. And one could say "go to Scotland then!" And I will say: I can't.I have exams. But, I'll get over it. Thank you guys... bye.... zoe.... www.shaneland.uk.tt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Fri May 11 20:13:11 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:13:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New Gig Message-ID: <3AFC39C7.B4EEC38D@york.ac.uk> I specifically said I wouldn't join the hullabalu, but hoora! Belle And Sebastian play close to York and in my home town of Ipswich! I've posted because on ticketweb they have ANOTHER gig listed! I don't know anything about it, it's at Somerset House on the 10th of July and costs £15. Sorry if someone has mentioned this already. http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=uk&query=schedule&venue=somerset Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Fri May 11 23:23:26 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:23:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Issues Message-ID: I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, and she talked of a shirt she had wanted to get a couple of years back. It was a tee-shirt, that said "I have issues" across the chest. I thought it rather funny. Today I cried, because I was upset. It was rather disappointing to know that I wasn't as strong as I thought I was, but it was kind of nice to be able to admit to the fact that I was upset, too. Anyway, I stopped crying 2 minutes before class and went to class red and puffy-eyed. But no one asked how I was, so I hoped no one noticed. Belle and Sebastian. I wrote Mick Cooke incessantly long, annoying emails saying 'come play in New Hampshire, because I'm a poor girl, nobody loves me, I'm just a poor girl from a poor family... and I want to see Belle and Sebastian live.' It was rather silly of me, but he did write back, in a very polite and nice manner. I was smiling for the entire day. (This was not today, it was a couple of days ago.) I've decided that I have no room in my life for another close friend, so I've decided to give up on Will. I'd have to scoot one of my other friends away, and seeing as how they're all very nice, entertaining, sweet people who care about me, I don't want to do that. Perhaps later it will work out. I've been listening to cheery music to pick me up this evening. The cheery sides of Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison and Billy Joel... a bit of the modern rock craze, just for the catchy, happy melodies, and of course, a bit of Belle and Sebastian. I wonder if Toxic Girl will do. I've looked up the chords to carrot rope, thank you to everyone who answered either my question about where to find the tabs or what music to listen to. I shall be leaving now, to gobble down a cheeseburger and french fries for dinner. The corporate culture of America sure makes room for fast food. (For more mockery of the corporate, industrial culture, watch Monty Python and The Meaning Of Life, the first 20 minutes or so.) Ta ta for now. Cheers, Hye Min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ettirgam at xxx.com Sat May 12 06:18:07 2001 From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the us tour In-Reply-To: <20010509171101.1038.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> Message-ID: <20010512051807.21191.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> yes, i am home on a friday night and for many reasons really. first, there is nowhere to go in this horrid little valley town. well, it isn't horrid really, it just doesn't have anything to recommend it other than it was where pavement, the band not the road material, originated. second, it is hot. not as bad as a couple of days ago, but still rather hot for someone who was being rained on last year in connecticut. third, it is much more affordable for me, as i start to plan my extravagant journey to england for next spring, to simply drink in the comfort of my apartment. also, i don't have to deal with anyone pinching my ass, which is nice on occasion, but in the heat is just obnoxious. anyway, while being terribly bored and remembering that i have to wake up early on sunday for radiohead tickets as my computer was too slow yesterday for the presale, i was looking for anything of interest on mtv.com. so, i decided to test the webpage. they advertise that it lists new and obscure bands, but i thought, "could it really?" it surprised me by mentioning the kings of convenience, so i thought maybe there is something fabulous on belle and sebastian. and this is what i read: "Scottish collective Belle and Sebastian are planning to release two EPs before the end of the summer and have a tour planned for later this year. The first, Jonathan David, is slated for a June 12 release, according to a Matador Records spokesperson, and comprises the previously unreleased songs "Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It," "The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" and the title track, sung by guitarist Stevie Jackson. The EP's cover will feature a photo of trumpeter/bassist Mick Cooke taken by singer/guitarist Stuart Murdoch. A video for "Jonathan David" is likely to be shot in the band's hometown of Glasgow May 19 and 20, the group's U.K. spokesperson said. In the meantime, the band is considering a director for the clip. No title, track listing or release date has been set for the second EP. A Stateside visit for the indie icons is in the works for late summer or early autumn. Although an itinerary hasn't been finalized, the U.K. spokesperson expects all the shows will take place on the West Coast." the pieces of great interest are the video being filmed in glasgow on particular days, and much more exciting the west coast tour. ah, we are finally getting the respect we have so long been denied. the good old west coast. west coasts are in general fabulous because they are in general the advancing coastlines, this is coming from a geologist mind you. but still, i'd rather have an earthquake than a hurricane. the shifting of rocks and magma is grand. although storms are interesting, they lack that flare that earthquakes have. the earth shakes and for a moment your thoughts actually shift to the china in the cupboard and whether your house meets the state code. of course, the eastern coast of japan has to be pretty awesome too, i mean it's almost on a subduction zone. anyway, i doubt people care about this or that i am now going to read an edith wharton novel for pleasure. take care kids. marikka. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Sat May 12 06:41:39 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:41:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the us tour References: <20010512051807.21191.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601c0daa6$37889c60$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marikka" To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: Sinister: the us tour anyway, i doubt people care about this or that > i am now going to read an edith wharton novel for > pleasure. take care kids. as long as it's not "ethan frome". if so, you need to get out of the house *now* before you drown. are there already radiohead tickets on sale? are there already *dates*? why was i not informed??? oh, right, i'm in the sticks. you think the west coast is bad? at least los angeles or san francisco is the next step beyond all the infuriatingly exclusive new york shows most bands do. *no one* does new york and......atlanta. :) (i can hear phil and mc chiding me now) sorry to hear it's so hot in stockton tonight. hope it's not humid too. jay "smoking the everlasting cigarette of chastity" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com Sat May 12 08:28:10 2001 From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 00:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You can't make biscuits out of breadcrumbs and butterbeans! Message-ID: <20955148.989652490479.JavaMail.imail@baldy.excite.com> Hello. It's been a while. I'm off to see Belle & Sebastian in 5 weeks. *ducks to avoid angry foreigners throwing objects at her* Well, it's about time. [pause] Have you ever been faced with a situation where you feel you should intervene or say something even though it's none of your business? There was this woman on the train. She was clearly in a severe state of post-natal depression. Anyway, she was talking rather loudly to her baby boy saying that he had to be quiet cause he was on the train and if he cried, people would get annoyed and she'd have to throw him out of the window. She kept repeating the part about the window over and over again. The baby didn't cry (luckily) but I was on the verge of asking her if she was alright. She wasn't joking or being light hearted about it. She looked like if that baby had cried, she wouldn't have hesitated on throwing him the window of a moving train. I fear for that child now. I didn't say a thing and for all I know, that poor woman might be left to cope with a baby on her own and receiving no help for her illness. I should have said something. I can't stop thinking about it. So, I've got a job. In a Chinese takeaway. The less said about it, the better. Mind you, it puts food on the table and Pernod in the belly. It was my 19th birthday recently and some fantastic lovely person got me The Complete Bagpuss Collection on video. Which I love and urge you all to see. I also urge everyone to run out *RIGHT NOW* and buy 'His 'n' Hers' by Pulp. I'm loving it at the moment. I think 'Do You Remember The First Time' is one of my favourite songs in the whole wide world. Ever. Mind you, I think that about Limp Bizkits 'Nookie'.... My flatmate says I was swearing in my sleep. According to her, I kept saying "I'll fucking teach you a lesson.......bastard.....". I wouldn't say I was worried. More embarrassed, when I think about what else I could have been saying. I don't really care. At least I'm not a filthy slob who spits phlegm into cold cups of tea and leaves it lying for days on end. I've noticed a worrying trend in the number of Big Issue sellers and the strategic positioning of them withing the City Centre of Glasgow. Next time you're out, count them. It's quite unnerving. And who finds themselves lying to them? I use the old chestnut 'Got one, thanks...' but I feel a bit annoyed at having to say that about twenty times a day, when I haven't actually got one. "It's time to teach him to walk. Yeah, teach your baby how to walk away now...." I wish I could go somewhere exciting today, rather than ASDA. They've got Pernod on special. £11.49 for a bottle, which is cheap. It's tempting. Oh, Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Listen to this! *claps her hands and jumps up and down* I might be getting a Mini! I hope my loan will allow me to treat myself to a small luxury. Just a cheap one mind. But then I'll be happy. And then I'll show you all. You all mock me but I now the truth. For the truth lies behind the wheel of a small British car. And I shall have the truth! *stands up and shakes her fists at the sky* Ahem. I hope B&S play 'Mayfly'. I hope they play it at least eight times. And I hope Geddes gets naked. And then he and Stu roll about in raspberry jam and let me lick it off them. Well........it *might* happen. I'm going before I really offend someone. Hope none of you know someone with a mullet. My fascination with William Hague will reap me rewards when I die. See you all later. Pamela xxx ...................................................... I AM OBSESSED WITH BOTTLE GREEN MINI COOPERS. FEAR ME... _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Sat May 12 13:22:41 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:22:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's wrong to wish on space hardware Message-ID: <003c01c0dade$3d439cd0$aac813ac@bathspa.ac.uk> I must now say that the rest of this post will be me adlibing stuff, so I can have a post to go with the subject header, which represents genius at it's most potent. Answers on a postcard to the usual address if you know where it's from. Erm... here's a poem for all you lot... The Barbie Complex When I was young I got in pickles Thinking women had no nipples. There. I think that just about makes my post worthwhile. Oh, and I've joined the LATE, that's League Against ToplodEr. Which currently has three members. One of whom being the guy who I was drinking Sidekicks with on Sunday. I'm not quite sure what action we'll be taking, but you can be sure it's be affirmative, and probably not peaceful. Right... I think that's about it, bye bye my lovely Sinistries. PEter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat May 12 17:31:57 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:31:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: is hitler's other testicle still there? Message-ID: Well it's Saturday about 5pm and I've just managed to get a ticket for the Albert Hall gig over the phone from TicketWeb on 0207 771 2000 Apparently the booking fee is less if you do it over the Web though - don't know if that's set up for it yet? Right... back outside for more G&T in the sunshine me thinks! PeetSketchSteve _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Sat May 12 17:33:06 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:33:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Mediocrity Message-ID: I just read the mail regarding the league against toploader and it seems like a pretty good time to go into my rant on mediocrity so everyone can turn off now :) I was sitting in my house with a few friends last night and one of them said that shed seven tickets were on sale now for October and for some reason they seemed to get all excited, "Oh man shed seven man, they've got disco down man". I happened to mention that panic by the smiths is so much better anti-disco song and although they admitted the goodity of the smiths they wouldn't believe it was better than disco down. It seems really puzzling how bands with a few pretty good, at best, songs get to be so popular in "indie" circles. As Heller said "some people are born to mediocrity, some people achieve mediocrity and some people have mediocrity thrust upon them". it seems very apt for bands like Shed7, toploader et al. Oh yeh and Feeder too, i went to see Feeder on the condition that ppl would go to see hefner with me and they were dire. Hard guitars, terrible lyrics, no heart. Contrast that with Belle and Sebastian's excellence and it becomes even harder to understand. I've actually been banned from saying hefner was better than Feeder and that B&S will be better because "theres no way that poofy music can be better than Feeder" Anyway, is there going to be some sort of meet b4 the B&S gigs at Glasgow, i remember the idea of a Kelvingrove picnic being banded about, so what was eventually decided? Sorry for annoying people with my rant :( Well if that is really music i dont want it in my world Danny xxxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat May 12 17:43:28 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:43:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: elephants and dogs to go... Message-ID: I forgot to mention about Carsmile's observation of some story in the Grauniad about some fat woman winning a competition to do things with elephants in Thailand? Did anyone see the thing in today's Mirror (for the sport - honest) about some lass getting gored to death by an elephant that went on the rampage at some Thai conservation park? No connection I hope? This was on the page after the story about some bloke from London who went on hols to the Philippines or something and developped rabies after being bitten by a dog. I think it might have had more to do with the fact that they caught and *ate* the dog for it's crimes! The mirror just casually mentioned this as though it was de rigeur. Hmm... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sat May 12 18:34:19 2001 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:34:19 -0700 Subject: Sinister: woe is me, etc. Message-ID: Dear s(in)isters (and bros.), Just have a couple of questions...I've been dreading and anticipating for the last couple of years Belle and Sebastian touring the United States. Why? Because also for the last couple of years I've been planning on going to school for a term in Europe/UK whatever. I finally, after two or so years of pondering it, am going to be in Glasgow for a term (Sept. thru Dec. '01), and guess what? B&S are touring the U.S. "later this year". What does that probably mean? Well, duh, they'll probably be in my hometown (or at least the west coast U.S. at the same time I'm in Glasgow. I knew this would happen. I've been predicting it. Of course, I can't afford to go see them when they actually are playing in Glasgow in June. Not that I blame them or anything, it's just sad coincidence of timing and I'm whining about it. Enough of that crap though. Maybe they'll play in Glasgow in Autumn? ? ? Radiohead Question: Who made the cover artwork for Radiohead's Kid A? Who designed the funny little bears? I need to know for a possible research paper on a subject under the heading 20th C design. It's either that or Norwegian Black Metal (sort of a joke topic, don't actually like the music...duh). Also, for Mark: glad you liked the c.d. Will write later. Grinding one's teeth about b&s (not really, of course), Andrea http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat May 12 17:54:29 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 17:54:29 Subject: Sinister: Michael Owen is a twat. Message-ID: Hello boys, girls, and those who don't fall into either category (P. Carter). Well I've just spent an hour doing 'anger management' having watched the Cup Final, were Liverpool stole victory from the jaws of defeat. If I see that Owen, I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind... So yeah, I was mighty pissed off, so I've just spent the last hour listening to the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds and the Good Morning Vietnam soundtrack and playing mindless computer games (MicroMachines2 on the Megadrive). The music makes me smile, and games take my mind off things. So that was a fucker, the Cup Final I mean. Nevermind - there's always next year. And I'd just like to thank Stephan Henchoz for using his hand not once but **twice**. It's not called FOOTball for nothing dear. I'm tres excited about the Albert Hall Gig. However, one little twee question. Where are people going? Are people going for the sitting area, or are we all going to be sinister together in the standing? I'd quite like to know, cos if most people are sitting, then I'll sit too, but if everyone is going to stand and heckle, then I'll join in too. I'm such a sheep, but I'd like to know if anyone would like to mail me. Also, how about an evening picnic in Hyde Park on the Friday, about 6ish before the gig? Mail me if you're interested. Right then, I think I've said far too much. 15 minutes is up... love to all S.x P.S. Hello to young Jojo who's currently sucking a dummy in the nursery. I said I'd do it, and I just have: HELLO JO! ============================================================ "What we say is that the most important thing of all is that no matter how dreary the situation is, or how difficult it may be, the storm really doesn't matter until the storm begins to get you down. My advice to you, the message that the Cannonball Quintet brings to you is that it's rough and tough in this ghetto, but there's a lotta funky stuff going down, and you gotta walk tall. WALK TALL!!" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sat May 12 19:26:01 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 18:26:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister :Story... not real life ...don't get confused!!! Message-ID: Nothing to do with belle and sebastian sorry... Lucy was a girl who lived, far away from where people normally live, in a place not too many people know about. It was a good place though, but not too different from here you understand. Her life was never difficult either, and not too many bad things happened to her. In fact nothing really bad ever happened. But Lucy was unsatisified. As the days went by she went looking for something beautiful. She wanted to do something special with her life. Despite her charmed existence she felt sad, she felt unfulfilled but most of all she felt guilt at her own discontent. Until one day. She woke to an unusually bright sun and a low mist. It surrounded her tiny house enclosing her in her own secret world. Lucy dropped to the floor and lay on her back feeling herself sinking into the warm damp grass. She lay there for sometime watching the sky move and feeling the breeze on her body. She lost herself completely, became free at last. As she did so flowers started to burst from her fingers, from her eyes and from her heart. A passer-by stood and looked in amazement at Lucy in flower. "At last" she thought "I've made something beautiful of my life". _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat May 12 22:19:53 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 09:19:53 +1200 Subject: Sinister: the land of the long white cloud Message-ID: <001d01c0db29$67960180$406137d2@computer> Hello folks **NEW ZEALAND MUSIC MONTH** It is this, now. Supposedly New Zealand music is the best it has ever been, according to "people in the New Zealand music industry", which is funny, because I'd thought it was terrible. Basically, NZ is now capable of producing "mainstream alternative rock acts" who don't really sound indigenous (in the way The Clean, or The Sneaky Feelings or The Chills did), but who nonetheless sell well and have singles in the charts. It makes me sad, 'cause I have friends in a couple of really amazing bands and they can't get any interest from labels. (sigh) Speaking of which, it is time for me to set the record straight. **TRUEBLISS** "Who?" you ask. "Truebliss" I reply, not really clarifying the situation. Right, you've all heard of Hear'say (unless you are a deaf mute from Mars) And according to the PR, the UK "Popstars" series was based on an Australian concept, which spawned a band called Bardot. (Who stalled outside the UK top 40, and whose debut album can be found for $5.00 or under in any budget CD store across this beautiful land ....) Anyway, what not many people know is that Bardot themselves were actually based on a New Zealand version of the show, which screened in '99, and spawned a 5 piece girl band called Truebliss. Who, of course, were just as crap as Bardot and Hear'say. But the point is, I think they must be given credit. TRUEBLISS WERE THE FIRST MANUFACTURED POP BAND TO BE MADE INTO A TV SHOW (Discounting The Monkees) There, OK, I've given them credit. On to other things. **JEALOUSY** I am, of course, extremely jealous of all the people being able to see B&S soon. If I weren't getting married in six months, I'd be over there in a shot. But I hope you all enjoy it, as I stay at home by myself (sigh) **NEW SINGLE ARTWORK** Is this anywhere else apart from a place where I would have to sign up for a Spanish B&S mailing list? Can someone else host it in a more convenient place? And why is Spain such a hip indie place all of a sudden? I loved Barcelona when I was there in '98, but the only record stores I could find were ones which sold Dance music. But maybe I was wandering around the wrong alleyways. **NEW ZEALANDER'S AHOY!** I met up with Sean Hopson from London last Sunday. it was nice actually meeting another listee in the flesh. We climbed Mt Eden to watch the sun set, and had a crap meal and my girlfriend's sister's boyfriend's place. I like showing people around Auckland ...... *DAVID CLARK* is a new listee from New Zealand. I mailed him last week, as there are only three of us in the country and I thought it would be nice to acquaint myself with him. But I have heard *nothing*, so perhaps my reputation precedes me. David, I am a nice fellow in a stable relationship with a girl and am not an internet sex predator who joins mailing lists to meet young boys, if that is what you are thinking. (And hopefully, of course, that wasn't what you were thinking ....) So e-mail me please ..... (sorry, listees, for this blatant e-mail abuse) **REM** "Reveal" sure is great for a band who have been "at it" for 20 years, and who are up to their 12th album. Cheers Buck/Mills/Stipe Righto, off to commit various deeds. word Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From howied41 at xxx.com Sat May 12 22:31:24 2001 From: howied41 at xxx.com (David Howie) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:31:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pure art is borne of epiphany? Message-ID: Forgive the subject line; or, rather, its author. Mediocrity: the glue that binds us all or the wall that serves to highlight how fast the wind blows? I guess this would be a fitting time for THAT Woody Guthrie quote: "The world is filled with people who are no longer needed - and who try to make slaves of all of us - and they have their music and we have ours - Theirs, the wasted songs of a superstitious nightmare - and without their musical and ideological miscarriages to compare our Song of Freedom to, we'd not have any opposite to compare music with - and like the drifting wind, hitting against no obstacle, we'd never knows it's (sic) speed, it's (sic) power." Well, that about sums it up. No need for me to prattle on at inordinate length. So, mediocrity: not such a bad thing after all. As for Shed Seven: they shoot horse, don't they? Well, I wish they'd hurry up. I'm not sure that Panic is actually an anti-disco song (despite the lyric "burn down the disco"). I always listened to it as an "explicit denunciation of black pop". In tandem with a handful of provocative Moz quotes, the brouhaha laid the track that led to the 'racist' accusations around 1992's Your Arsenal (culminating in Tjinder Singh burning a Moz poster: bastard). It's just a great decrying of the banality of the '80's mainstream. According to legend it was inspired by the rather surreal juxtaposition, on Radio 1, of news of the meltdown at Chernobyl followed by Wham!'s I'm Your Man. Marr: "I do remember being in the kitchen with Morrisey [great how he doesn't call him Stephen] and Wham! coming on the radio and then just completely dissing it - and within a week we had that song." Mediocrity = popularity. To buttress this assertion by way of example: Gray David, Toploader, Starsailor, Bridgett Jones' Diary [film and book], Captain Correlli's Mandolin, Stereophonics. The fact that "Mediocrity = popularity" has a little to do with the concept "lowest common denominator". Take the recent example at Glasgow University where a distinguished intellectual [some might say Scotland's leading author; I wouldn't] was beaten by a two-bit comic with the catchphrase "Gonnae no' dae that". The case for the prosecution rests. The Heller/Shed 7 comparison is apt. I know I'd like to thrust� Er, ahem. I'd rather cut open my scrotum and rub live bees into the wound than go and see Feeder. Your description of Feeder was nothing short of altruistic. (Hefner are pretty good live, though. Pretty hard to beat: though Neal Casal gave them a good fight. Oh yeh, and so did Belle & Sebastian. :-) On a scale of 1 to pish-poor-awful. 1 being the least pish-poor-awful and pish-poor-awful being the most pish-poor-awful. I reckon I'd have to say Feeder are about 9. Y'know. Pretty high. And in conclusion to echo Danny: "Anyway, is there going to be some sort of meet before the B&S gigs at Glasgow, I remember the idea of a Kelvingrove picnic being banded about, so what was eventually decided?" And, the same applies for me "Sorry for annoying people with my rant" :-( David. PS Just a little note on Disco; it's an unfairly maligned genre of music, y'know. Donna Summer's I Feel Love. Ah mean, c'mon. "It was unprecedented. No verse, no chorus, just Summer's purring mantra set over endless, oscillating, undulating, repetitive sequencer-driven beats." PPS That's my fifteen minutes. Anybody care to debate? Go on, you know you want to. I've never actually had an argument/convo with anyone on Sinister. I always shy away from real discussion. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wffej at xxx.com Sun May 13 01:51:02 2001 From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:51:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: slow jams mix tape Message-ID: so, im bored, really bored, and i noticed people are cool with just going on about what they are up to here, so i fugured id give it a shot. work is for chumps, and im the biggest chump, new york is great when your partying and have friends around, but when on those rare occasions when your stranded alone, you really feel alone, cuz there are 8 million others right next to you doing stuff that could be fun, hey im all for drinking alone in a bar with the chance to meet people, but that costs money, and as im trying to save for a move and drive out west this summer, its next to impossible, especially living in the big citae. but im making a slow tape, stephen malkmus traojan curfew, arab strap screaming in the trees and sleater-kinney the size of our love are all down, any suggestions would be appreciated. and anyone who wants to go for a drive when the belle and seb west coast tour dates are announced, ill be more than glad to swing over and give ya a lift. take it sleazy-jeffff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun May 13 04:16:21 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 04:16:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ticket is a small leaf of paper, derived from etiquette, and close to tickle Message-ID: <3AFDFC85.4CDA137@netscapeonline.co.uk> Hullo I have a bellyful of wine and passiflora, and I still can't sleep. 02:57 am, listening to William Orbit, which is lovely and spacey for these sunless hours, like being on that little spaceship that crashes into the moon's face. Although the moon is currently out of view, so I read a great many posts about tickets instead. I used one to gain admittance to a play called Woyzeck the other night, then read bits of Homer's *War Music* to myself with some self-conscious intensity in a trendi bar afterwards, a little drunk and lonely, but with lovely shiny metaphors. One occasionally gets flashes of confidence and the smallest exchange can be laden with tenderness and intimacy, even with a complete stranger. A few of these moments recalled and the night seems more inviting. Sunset wrote about creation and Pamela about Minis and the Big Issue. Making things is essential, I think, and the avoidance of Big Issue sellers difficult, and a constant pain on the conscience which, I'll admit, I assuage by showily giving large sums of money to non big issue sellers late at night, I have a night time theme... If you live somewhere far away, the big issue is a magazine sold by people who can't afford a home to live in, and was devised in order to allow such people the opportunity to earn some dignity, rather than being forced to beg. It's a lovely idea, but damned irksome, all this conscience-pricking, like those well-meaning students with clip-boards and anyone else who accosts me as I march on my determined, shy and bloody-minded way to nowhere in particular. Flowers... the flowers in Princes' Street Gardens in Edinburgh are quite beautiful and, unlike the ones one might buy from a supermarket, they are scented. Check out a flower near you, I say. They are so terribly bright and delicate, and one of nature's finest means of addressing the sky. Ah, a spacey version of Handel's *Xerxes* plays now, which always throws me into a melancholy, because I can see my granny play it on the Bechstein I inherited. For me, it is very much 'her tune', though I shudder to think of how public I now make that private knowledge. Then again, words, huh? Just letters. Eterlest Next weekend I'm going to drive north. I want to stay at Arisaig House, but at £150 a night, way, way out of my league. Arisaig house was used as a training base for members of the Special Operations Executive in WWII and, according to their online brochure, there is a large and immaculately mown lawn that stretches from the billiards room towards the seas of the hebrides. I think it might be haunted. All those cloak and dagger types back for another dram and the click of coloured balls on slate. Perhaps a tent is the answer, although it's a tad scary, miles from anywhere, with only an occasional passing aeroplane, tide-wash and assorted spooky noises for company, and the rhythm of some elian lighthouse across the water. Ah, Harkon, king of the Nordics was plying his way through this wash a thousand years back. Been there before, see.. I can remember it from last time. That's why I want to go back. Some places are like that. Siren places. More night. A daily reminder of this ball spinning in space, not hugging the sun's light but it's gravity: how could our sensibilities get us so wrong? Perhaps God's way of telling us to sleep regularly, but the spell is broken and here it is; a dark, stateless, Godless zone. And the window is open, admitting cold but fresh air. Ah, life is not so fine for those bacteria who cling to meteorites. Fine: honed; marbly; more stuff and, like Ewan McGregor says in the movie: *more life*. Isn't stolen time sweet? Back to business. Seeings as Belle and Sebastian are playing a concert in Glasgow on a June Saturday evening, might some of us be inclined to spend some of the afternoon by the People's Palace on the grass of Glasgow Green? Someone mentioned that Curldup Carey was in charge here, and I nominated Ally '96 for the job, so I don't want to pre-empt anyone's plans... but to get the ball rolling folks. Rock'n rolling :) My head is full of twiddly synthesizer bits courtesy of William Orbit, so I won't comment on Belle and Sebastian sound because it would be too sonically confusing but, thanx to Jordi we can see their new EP cuvvur. Not that I've looked, mind, but three people on it so, obviously, not dance music. Unless your conception of dancing is twee-bop or wonky-tango... I'm rather looking forward to it. The birds are up. A little dawn creeping. Another day in... on... beside... besides... no tickets: just walk on through :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jkananen at xxx.net Sun May 13 08:17:20 2001 From: jkananen at xxx.net (j r kananen) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 00:17:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: us tour(s) yay ... tickets ...the semester's almost over ... Message-ID: <003901c0db7c$bfd4dd00$0100000a@earthlink.net> speaking of US tours.... It will be an awesome thing if B&S come to the west coast this year. I live here in the smoggy, busy, and all together unhealthy town of Pasadena California, which is just a boulder's throw away from LA (boo) where they'll hopefully play. I don't mean to brag, but ... *ahem* I got Radiohead tickets!!!!! yay Sorry to all those listees who have to stand out in what looks like rain tomorrow for tickets. I'm just really excited because not only is Radiohead my fav. band (B&S come in a very close second ^__^) but last year I was foiled in my attempt at tickets by 2 people attempting to get tickets to see the Dixie Chicks. Yes that's right, I stood in line all night, and then at the last moment these two people came in line pushing the number of people in the line over 10 and therefore making it a stupid "wristband-line" (boo). Now I was lucky. I got the second place in line, but in front of me were to 2 people who came in last......those were the Dixie Chicks fans (grrrr). After they got their tickets, I was next. I ran up and requested my passports to greatness, but too much time had transpired. By the time the ticket-master-guy switched over to Radiohead from the Dixie Chicks and put in my ticket request the tickets were all sold out. I was sad. But now I have them and everything's alight ^__^. Good luck to all the listees trying to get them tomorrow, I'm rooting for you! The semester's almost over, and there is one thing that just bugs me. There is this REALLY cool girl who is in my "Film Art" class at PCC. She is very definition of "twee." Everything about her: style, dress, attitude ... hopefully musical / film taste just screams TWEE. However, I have a hard time approaching her and talking to her......Why is it that girls who have nothing in common with me are so easy to talk to, where someone who's conversational potential is very very high are so impossible to approach? grrrr, and now the semester's almost over (the class is on Thursdays, next Thursday is a "study day," and the week after that is our final) and I've not said a word to her. I fear that it'll be too late and I'll never see her again. Any advice on this situation would be very much appreciated. I'm not looking for a girlfriend, just someone to talk to about things of the twee ways. OK, I've rambled on about as much as typably possible... sorry.... hit delete now ^__^ - Jason Jumped in the river what did I see? A black eyed angel swam with me. - Radiohead - Pyramid Song - +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From softbollocks at xxx.com Sun May 13 11:58:41 2001 From: softbollocks at xxx.com (davie kerr) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:58:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "If words could kill I'd spell out your name" Message-ID: Hey Ho Ladies, Gentleman and Space Monkeys How in the hell is everyone on this fine day? Please do not feel obliged to send me an email answering this question. I would love to here from you all but there is no presure. No pressure whatsoever. As you all know I very rarely post. And when I do post it is the biggest pile of monkey spunk ever.I never have anything interesting to say and today is no different. Don't you just hate when people come to your flat to get pissed and stoned and in the end you are the only one left awake. What be going on with that? I suppose I always have the musical genius of Scotland's finest to keep me company. Anyways......... Again i am way behind on my correpondence. There must be loads of people on this list with finger cramp. You are all so busy typing mails that it must be dreadfully painful on your chubby digits. I just read Danny's mail about Shed 7 and the Smiths. I have to say that i am a fan of Shed 7. They have so many lovely little numbers that it is hard to resist tapping your toes and clicking your fingers. Rick Witter doesn't have the greatest voice but they do put on a stormin live set. Aye the Smiths thing as well. Probably mentioned this before or one of you rather lovely people have. But the song 'Mark' by Shed 7 sounds sooooo much like the Smiths. Please have a listen and I am sure you will agree. Oh God I hope you do anyway. Well seeing as it is sunday I am off to get pissed, stoned and hopefully sunburned as well. Take Care Davie PS The subject heading are lyricds stolen from the outstandlingly talented Tom McRae. Please have a listen. He is also playing King Tuts on 3 June. Hopefully see you there _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sun May 13 21:19:44 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:19:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: ideas are like kids in a playground... Message-ID: <002101c0dbeb$2ab3d540$da5601d5@aqlzosqt> ...and sinister picnic-ers are even more so. in fact, there were some actual kids in a playground who captured the attention of a select group of sinisterettes. nothing dodgy, honest, we were just jealous. where are the climbing frames built to adult proportions? and why can't i go to my local cinema on saturday morning to see toy story 2 unless accompanied by a responsible minor? anyway, i'm a whole week late with my post-picnic post. so i won't live in the past, just say: i love you. yes, you. but not you, you smell. okaaaayyy, so, i found out that despite not having lived up to it for about a year, i still have a reputation for list smut. which is nice. good to know that even through all the post-relationship blips when i think i declared that fireworks and knitting (not at the same time) were better than sex, sinister still had faith that i was a depraved little minx. on that subject, i watched a huge phallus made of sellotape being pulled out of the ground by a big crane on friday night. to be fair, it may have been meant to represent a clock, an ivory tower, or the digestive tract of a huge spider. but that's performance art for you. most of the audience were too stoned to care anyway. either way it was strangely beautiful, and there were fireworks. this all means it must be the brighton festival. we spent a happy day yesterday trying to trip up stiltwalkers. (btw, did you know there is now a brownie badge in circus skills? i mean, what? what use is that to a future citizen?) in the evening i went to see jeanette winterson, who likes her own books quite a lot i think. which is fair enough, because they're not half bad. lots of smut. MEANWHILE... now they know how many indiekids it takes to fill the albert hall... i'm going to go and track down tickets now. my stomach hurts. you know when you fall in love and you feel sick all the time in case it all goes wrong? well, that's how i feel about seeing b&s live. which is good because i was getting a little blase there for a while and thinking that i wasn't as keen any more, and listening to hip hop instead. fool. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpsmith at xxx.edu Sun May 13 20:03:34 2001 From: kpsmith at xxx.edu (Kyle Patrick Smith) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <200105111333.OAA07272@missprint.org> Message-ID: > Apparently there was a duo called David et Jonathan, i'm assuming > French. They did a song calledLovers of the World Unite, apparently in > 1966. any relation to shoplifters of the world unite? i can't find them on napster. > Lately, i've been listening to a lot of Death Cab for Cutie do you know where their name comes from? i don't, but on "Lowell, MA" they sing about 'skyscrapers fall into the ground' -- yet there is not one skyscraper in Lowell. nice. > Weezer's swinging through London early July, for those of you who don't > hate them. > > * a brownie point to anyone who caught that one The Magnetic Fields. and let's all additionally laugh at the fact that only a Harvard band would ever think to write a song about Ferdinand de Saussure. and only these guys could write it well. but they're surprisingly not so popular yet? kyle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Sun May 13 20:08:50 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:08:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Hymn for the pre B&S picnic (possibly) Message-ID: *If you're not going to the gigs at the barrowland then you can ignore most of this. Sorry, its not total list abuse i think. Can we please, please, please decide on a meet before the gig at the barras. I think its easier/quicker/whatever to get to the barras from Glasgow Green if we're going to have a londesque picninc but its not that much of a difference from Kelvingrove park. If someone could just take control, pretty please :) Anyone got any pavement suggestions? i heard some Stephen Malkmus stuff and it was pretty amazing and i've heard pavement on the radio and they were excellent but i've no idea what songs i've actually heard. I got a copy of the Paris Black sessions on cassette from a friend. I'd just like to say it was absolutely amazing and everyone should try and get hold of it. Do B&S have any sort of standard set list, i've heard 3 live gigs and the songs were almost totally different although they play slow graffiti and boy with all the time, i think. Does anyone else associate msuic with books? I seem to do it all the time with slow graffiti and "Dorian Gray" and century of fakers and "catcher in the rye"? A sinisterwide or even worldwide phenomena? ponder, ponder :) "He started to woo her in a most peculiar way" Danny xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Sun May 13 20:29:08 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:29:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Just heard Jonathan David Message-ID: I'd just heard what im pretty sure was Jonathan David on Beat106. They said it was B&S's new single - Jonathan David. It's slightly elcetronic rennaiscance-esque meets legal man. At least thats the B&S tracks its closest too. Im not sure whos singin. I think it's stevie jackson but im really not sure. its too deep for stuart but im not sure its low enough for stevie. Its actually amazing as you would expect from any B&S song really. I'll send lyrics if anyone wants them or hasn't got them or whatever? Im impressed Danny xxxx Sorry for two posts one after another but i just heard it and was like "Awwwww man new B&S, awwww man" :) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From weetabix at xxx.fr Sun May 13 20:33:38 2001 From: weetabix at xxx.fr (alan) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:33:38 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <001d01c0dbe3$9cdc0d20$6a5524d5@a> > > Apparently there was a duo called David et Jonathan, i'm assuming > > French. They did a song calledLovers of the World Unite, apparently in > > 1966. > naaaaah, they were from the eighties, and had a hit with a song called "qu'est ce que tu fais pour les vacances?". and they were bloody awful. a +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Sun May 13 21:02:28 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 20:02:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Deep Breaths Message-ID: Certain people seem to be getting very flustered when they start to think of having a picnic in Glasgow. Seeing as we haven't had one in a whole year, I know how you all feel. I'm practically choking on my KFC just thinking about the prospect of all that food, all that alcohol, and all those lovely people. And a B&S gig afterwards! Anyway, rubbish as I am at TAKING CONTROL, I will this time. So what I'm saying is I'll have a stab at organising this multi-continental event. And what I'm also saying is be patient, pweese. Yes, there WILL be a picnic (how could there not?) on the 16th of June, and it'll most probably be in Kelvingrove Park, but there's really no rush, it's still a ways away at the mo. So I'll formulate some kind of half-arsed plan and get back to you all in a while. Is that OK? Hope so. Thank you for your time. Bye for now, lovely folks. Alasdair xx PS I have been asked to remind people once again of the rather nice mailing list which has been set up for people who are going to any of the Scottish gigs. Many questions can be answered here, among them where can I stay?, what shall I do while I'm in Glasgow (except see B&S)? and how on earth can I find a drink at 3am? Nice people are here to help, if you require it. http://uk.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tenbiggestwanks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun May 13 21:50:28 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I know you're 45, but you look 23 Message-ID: <20010513205028.9319.qmail@web5303.mail.yahoo.com> This is no time for deep breaths. Lou Reed didn't say that. 96 will find this hard to believe, but I am listening to 'Part Company'. Really. 96 found it hard to believe that we conceded that penalty to Switzerland (converted). 96, for that matter, probably found strange the way that the ball 'bobbled' as McAllister (old version) headed up to it on the way to strike. Enough about 96 already. I mean, soon. There are people who Come Home From Work and, rather than saving their monies, listen to MBV's 'Soon'. That's what I heard. The thing is, people keep banging on about 'Soon' - and I am not sure - honestly, I am not quite sure, I'm only guessing - which track we're talking about. Look, I like 'Soon'. I don't even know for sure which one it is, but I like *all* of Loveless, so I have nothing to lose but my pains. I seem to be listening to 'That Way'. This is a slight disappointment. No, hang on, I hear Elvis & Burt come from somewhere. One day, will I get round to writing something about the magnificence of EC and BB's collaboration? I hope so. If I don't manage it, can someone else fill in? Another thing is that this am I got up and - no, this was *before* I'd got up - I stuck on THE CHARM OF THE HIGHWAY STRIP again. I still don't think I have fully Reported Back (right?) on that LP. Will I ever? I hope so; if only to my Recording Angel. Auctioneer (Another Engineer). Put it this way: naturally I stand by what I said re 'Long Vermont Roads'. But I need to go into more detail. That track - goodness knows, it's *old*, I know that - we have to talk more about that track. I haven't time to talk about David Thomson this time. I note from the Archives that my editor has not been reading the Archives - otherwise why tell me about DT on Cary Grant, when I'd already said it in the Archives? But I have surely to have time to talk about My Editor, and the jig I imagined him dancing at around, um, 4:38 yesterday. To him, let me say, if he's reading this (but why would she be reading this?): congratulations - and also, celebrations. You don't know how happy I was for you. You do? Oh. Listen, I was so happy I went out and saw stars, in the six o'clock sky. I don't mean that literally. I'm writing on a beermat now, Cookie. Does that help? A '"mouse" pad'. There is so much to say. I want to revive the old Edward Gorey debate, for one thing. Did you know he illustrated Old Possum's Cat book? Back in 1982. Am I getting off the beaten cat here? I mean, let's get down to copper cats, I mean, brass tacks. There was a birthday yesterday - yes, someone has been something Since Yesterday - and it was barely registered on The B&S Mailing List. I can allude to it, gesturing at the limits of the unrepresentable. But we know what I mean. Don't we? He went to an Indian, and sent me smoke signals. I know his public code. But there is so much to say. I found the ilovelarrythefrog at yahoo.com address so absurd that I must mail it. I did, and received a reply! I don't know, these frogs. They don't like it up 'em. They don't like the meat. They don't like our sausages. I must talk more with, or about, M I Winship. He's a bright character, and the *only* one to talk about the storm the other night. I mean, talk about Thunder & Lightning - and he did. I woke up and thought, this is the loudest sound. I have not said as much as I would have liked to. Some people talked about 'mediocrity', and generalized too much. I think if I was going to discusss 'mediocrity', I would rather talk to that mysterious bearded character I met at the picnic the other week, who would probably have something stupid to say about emotional machine music. I can say this, I know he's not reading it. Oh. Sorry. I worried when the Care Bear said she was going to buy the Sugababes LP. Note how I say 'the Sugababes LP' as though I know what I'm talking about. Is there such a thing? Do 'LPs' still exist? I don't know. In this instance, I don't really care. I worried, when I'd got myself together, girl, and thought about it. Recommendations. 'The Boy In The Bubble', of course. You'll find it hard to beat 'The Boy In The Bubble'. I have a feeling that my old partner in prime 96 would agree with me, if he knew what I was talking about. If he would read what I wrote. Does he? We don't know. Are we going to find out? Are we going out? Only Ricky Ross knows, and he's not telling. This reminds me, somehow: where is the Soul of Sinister nowadays? He knows I mean him. We used to sing Curtis Mayfield covers in the back of that bus, you know. But this time, somehow, it doesn't seem enough. I saw a man who looked like Charles Laughton the other day. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Sun May 13 21:50:59 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:50:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Message-ID: Yooooooooou,yes you ! or anyone whos listening. Well I've had a great time lately. Infact in a "Craig David" styleee..... I walked out of my job on the monday ... wondered what to do on tuesday ... cruised around job centres on the wednesday.. and found a job building diggers on the thursday.. Friday was beautiful but empty. Somewhere inbetween I managed to get lovely lady friend Em' into B and S, plan a picnic in Riverside park (possably sinister) , buy B and S tickets for one of the Birmingham gigs then spend today playing tennis and looking at horses . For those interested our picnic has no date as yet so if you fancy a sinister(ish) musical(ish) piss up in Leicester then give me an Email. Working again tomorrow, James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Mon May 14 02:35:10 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 02:35:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: picnic! delaware and environs! read! Message-ID: <20010514013510.44207.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister-people. to anyone going to see belle and sebastian: I despise you. I left london on thursday. grrrrr. so, to help with the unavoidable pain, loathing, and envy, I have decided to try and organize a picnic for the end of may/beginning of june, in wilmington, delaware. if anyone would be interested in coming (that includes any philly/nj/baltimore people), let me know off the list, and if I get any interest, I'll set a date for fantastic picnic shenanigans. groovy is my name. -eric ps I don't really despise any of you. you're all cute and fluffy. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Mon May 14 10:50:31 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:50:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: DON'T BUY TICKETS FOR B&S SOMERSET HOUSE GIG Message-ID: <00b201c0dc5b$512e5720$7e8cfc3e@katrina> hi, just a quick message to let people know that the gig advertised at Somerset House is NOT HAPPENING so please don't buy tickets for it - it will be taken offline very soon. sorry for the inconvenience. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Mon May 14 06:28:21 2001 From: adevens at xxx.edu (adevens at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 06:28:21 US/Eastern Subject: Sinister: i want to be right about you Message-ID: <200105141028.f4EASLW11445@college.antioch-college.edu> hey all, its been forever since my last post and there is very very little B&S content in this one, just a warning before i start ;-) content: what ever happened with the san francisco picnic? i would be willing to organize it although i have absolutely no idea what that entails and would prob be over my head. life: i've decided to stay in san francisco for a bit longer then my original 4 months (which are up) and go to art school for awhile. it all works out so my college in ohio gets all the credits in the end and i get to stay in sf for 8 more months ;-) atm, however, i'm in seattle at my parents house very very bored. i wish the scene here had anything for someone under 21. saw chick corea live on thursday which was utterly amazing, live jazz is so much better then recorded jazz could ever be. arik +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon May 14 12:19:21 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:19:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: So long, and thanks for all the fish Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027754DD@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Douglas Adams, RIP. Well, finally, B&S are playing the Royal Albert Hall. As demanded on Sinister back in January 1998. You see, we're always ahead of the game on here. Latest news: if you want standing tickets for the Albert Hall, so that you can actually see something, you've got to phone them up direct - the website only has stalls and circle tickets available (as of 30 minutes ago). Birmingham tickets are also available online, but tickets for Scarborough still aren't available, and I can't get hold of Preston. This must be the most exciting thing to happen in Scarborough since the Cannon and Ball reunion tour of 1998. I notice that there aren't any gigs scheduled for the days before or after the Albert Hall show. What chance a second date being announced in the next few days? In the meantime, a picnic is needed on June 29th, at 4pm, in Kensington Gardens (just over the road from the Albert Hall). And another picnic on the beach in Scarborough. Oh yeah, and if anyone fancies offering me a floor in London for the night, I would be very grateful (and in return I might be able to offer a bedspace at my parents' house in Harrogate, halfway between Scaborough and Preston...) The Primrose Hill picnic the other week was G!R!A!T!E!, but everyone's already said pretty much everything already. The football score was 1-1 at halftime, when I came on as a substitute. We lost 6-2. I like to think it was a coincidence. And while we're talking about the beautiful game, an Arsenal fan was whinging earlier about losing the Cup Final to Liverpool. To which I say, it serves you right for what you did to the might Sheffield Wednesday 8 years ago, you bastards. In defence of Toploader, I would just like to say that I LIKE "DANCING IN THE MOONLIGHT". Just a shame the rest of their stuff is crap, really. Denmark were robbed. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Mon May 14 10:11:14 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:11:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wrong Suffix! Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732096@GB047XS> Sinister. Enough is ENOUGH with the Hefner adoration! Now come on people, come on children, come on down to the glory river.. of some decent fucking taste! Where you have been going wrong with Feeder is probably listening to their latest stuff - get the first album, Polythene, currently going in Virgin Megastores for 4.99 and YOU TOO can relive embarassing parties in Blackburn when you were 16! Or maybe 17, who knows! GEVALT. It's better than pretending that Maggie Thatcher died for she is still ALIVE (even though you may not believe it under her death mask face) and probably still influential within the machinery of the Tory party, you STUPID BASTARDS! And if that's not fucking mediocre than I don't know what is! Uh, that would be Hefner! Ho ho ho. But you know, I can live with other people liking Hefner, in fact I have TWICE danced to that stupid song, but EACH TIME registered my protest with various other dancefloor representatives. But quite frankly, one could do a lot better. I heard there's a band called Camera Obscura, maybe you should "check them out". Oh sorry, I couldn't give a shit about them either! To be honest, the fact that Stuart Smirnoff 'did the sound' aint overly exciting, uh huh? Speaking of not giving shits - how come no-one is excited about the Preston B&S shows? I'm certainly going! And what a lovely venue! Maybe a little more suited towards panto, but I've heard rumours about Isobel dressing up as the back end of the pantomime horse.... (oh no hang on thats just her FACE ahahahahahhahahahaha yeah okay "sorry")... It is also the ideal place for PICNICS, Preston having the BEST PARK IN THE WORLD, Avenham Park. And Winkley Square also! The second best park in Britain is *RUSKIN PARK* in Brixton, Londons Trendy South West. It's got squirrels gambling, no, gamboling, and indeed frolicking also! Maybe when B&S play London, people should have a picnic there. Mark - there's football pitches! And for all your greasy fried chicken needs, just round the corner is South Londons finest purveyor of said goods! And ice cream vans! Maybe the person who wanted Pavement recommendations should get WOWEE ZOWEE? Robin, are you a weatherman yet? I just saw an ad for Organic Tampons in Ms London magazine. "Reassuringly natural". I like the way that that phrase makes me shudder. Some kind of advertising ways have surely got to me... YUGH. Love, Sarah xx PS - the Hefner song, if you do not know it, could probably be The Day Thatcher Died and it is ALL LIES and I do not stand for it! GRUMP. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From crp28 at xxx.uk Mon May 14 15:22:00 2001 From: crp28 at xxx.uk (Choo-Choo Charlie) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:22:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sinister peeches on sinister beeches Message-ID: I love Scarborough. But i do not love the futurist theatre world of tickets cos they don't exist yet. The poor woman in the box office - she sounded quite old and i've rung three times and by the tone of her voice i think many other thousands have too. So i do so wonder what's going on. If anyone happens to find tickets for scarborough somehow, then do tell us all cos the tickets office woman may start crying soon. On a plus note tho, the fact that i'll (all being well) be seeing my favourite band, my loves, my dreams, my existence, in a month and a half is actually the most amazing thing ever and i like think that it might make me go crazy. A beach picnic will be the best. Me and my bandits of Mo, Fraser, Tom and Laura will be hanging rnd on Scarborough's beach for days beforehand i suspect so come find us there. We'll look v. happy. love charlie s t a y b e a u t i f u l +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk Mon May 14 17:18:19 2001 From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:18:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Area 7 Office In-Reply-To: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732096@GB047XS> References: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF732096@GB047XS> Message-ID: Yo big ups to the sinsiter crew nah nah nah! Bo! wow fanilly finshed all my course work for year two and only three exams to go wooooooooo!!!!!!!! Sarah.J.Clarke at maff.gsi.gov.uk writes: > >Speaking of not giving shits - how come no-one is excited about the Preston >B&S shows? I'm certainly going! And what a lovely venue! I am excited as i'm going to preston, so i will able to test my Belle &seb are crap live theory... I saw Ryan Adams last week he was so amazing, he even made a song up on the spot about Star Wars, and a middle aged couple admired my B&S shirt claiming that the picture of a dog on the front was there dog i was scared. Does anyone on here like the Moldy Peaches? They're playing Sheffield Soon yay. lots of good music here at the moment a bit like the weather, i spent all weekend sat in the garden watching bees and drinking beer, only its raining now. damn it all. well i have potatos to peel. Selector! ta ra love Nigel Love +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tp218 at xxx.uk Mon May 14 17:34:22 2001 From: tp218 at xxx.uk (Tom Phillips) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:34:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: lionel ritchie and the wardrobe Message-ID: hullo spacechildren, i am now allowed to speak to you, and, in keeping with tradition, thought i'd make my celebratory first post an utterly inconsequential, overlong, rambling mess. hi. i was kept awake last night by what i can only describe as prime minister's question time happening outside my window, only with ducks. see? i am tired. (it is not yet clear if i am true of heart.) i'm looking forward to june so much that it's already beginning to make me smile (and conveniently forget about the intervening exams). it promises to be a blissful, responsibility-free parade of amazing bands marching past me, lying in a private field of alcoholic lethargy. or on a beach. in, say, scarborough. (i agree with my good friend charlie on this point, although i'd remind him that we've got an appointment with bryan ferry only two days before, so our beach time is limited) yeah, in fact, any other sinisterines going to see r.music? just asking. things that have been making me smile today: the track titles on the apples in stereo album 'her wallpaper reverie'; the outrageous similarity between bowie's 'boys keep swinging' and blur's 'm.o.r.' (and noel gallagher gets criticised for nicking tunes...); the phrase 'fruity bun'. things that have almost brought me to tears: douglas adams becoming dead, and richard dawkins' amazing article about him in the guardian. so sad. and for someone who invented so many hilarious ways to die to be taken by something as mundane as a heart attack in a gym. anyway, i've rambled on long enough now (i am nothing if not honest), bye, some kid called tom +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon May 14 16:51:32 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:51:32 Subject: Sinister: a bit of a weird post I'm afraid. Sorry. Message-ID: Hello sinipeople, Hmmm, two posts in three days - I must be bored. Oh yeah, I'm 'unemployed'. I really should get a job, instead of just getting these letters back telling me to piss off. Anyway, Clarke, Sarah J (EU) wrote a fine post I thought. More incediary anti-twee ramblings along those and Ken's lines would be good I think, but then again perhaps that would be better suited on a Clash list, or on a list where everybody is a maths teacher who thinks it's cool to own three post-1998 albums ;o) Sorry. Anwyay... BigStu said: >And while we're talking about the beautiful game, an Arsenal fan was >whinging earlier about losing the Cup Final to Liverpool. To which I say, >it serves you right for what you did to the might Sheffield Wednesday 8 >years >ago, you bastards Thanks for that Stu. If the Owls were a better team, they wouldn't be in, what is it now? Div2? Anyway... I bought the new Alpha EP today (called South), primarily because it has a quality track with the mighty Jarve C on vocals. The rest of it is alright - worth �2.99 of anybody's money. Also, I don't know if anyone else got it, but in the Sunday Times yesterday was a free four-track Elvis cd, and I have to say this: the last track is just fantastic. It's called "I Just Can't Help Believin'", and it's perfect. A bit of it sounds really like B&S too, I think - all handclaps and brass. But most people will prolly disagree. Oh well... This weekend was fun. I met up with another listee, who some or fewer of you may have seen me having fun with at TigerMilking, and we went to CasinoRoyale at the Barfly. The ex-guitarist from Menswe at r was dj-ing in between denying his former career, and we danced maniacally to "Can You Dig It" by The Mock Turtles. Then Sunday I booked my tickets to the Albert Hall gig. Bonza. Oh yeah, people were talking about a picnic on the Friday before the Albert Hall gig. I think this is a fab idea, primarily because I suggested it on Saturday in my last post. But seriously, I don't mind being picnic mummy if someone has to be thrust into the limelight. I suppose I should contribute a bit more to this list apart from ***obviously*** my sparkling posts. So yeah, mail me if you're interested, and I'll try and sort something out. Um, I can't really think of anything else to write, and I'm missing Neighbours (it's Madge's funeral)* so I'll go... love to all, but more to some than others...** S.x *apologies to US listees who are about 5 years behind on Neighbours if I've ruined it. **purely because I know some of you better than I know others. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hugoshannon at xxx.com Mon May 14 18:14:03 2001 From: hugoshannon at xxx.com (Hugo Shannon) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:14:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: summer wasting! Message-ID: the advent of summer here (well it looked like it 'till today) caused me to hand in my notice of my crappy tax old collecting job. i lasted 5 months - impressive staying power - but writing threatening letters while looking out over sunny lawns didn't seem a possibility for any longer at all. (has anyone noticed that there is a faint smell of b.o. everywhere? and its definitely not me) as a free agent i'm going to do some voluntary work (unless i get a good job) and a fair amount of lounging. i reckon i can afford 6 weeks of this before i'm forced back to the real world. 18 months of scrimping for 6 weeks leisure? its a tough world where money really is too important. anyway, i'll be free for the whole b +s tour, which is already creating probs. my chum i was going with has booked a holiday in france during the tour - my sleeping space in london has been taken over, and i'm not going to believe its all true until my tickets arrive (standing!). is anyone planning a cliff richard style summer holiday in a bus around all the venues? it really should be done - maybe with a convoy of vehicles... on the bright side my local shops foolish overstocking of easter eggs means i STILL have a half price supply of chocolate lovelies. sorry about the footie list - i'm up in nottingham and can't travel regularly. i heartily agree with sam's post - top elvis cd with the sunday times. (but wasn't can u dig it by pop will eat itself?) a pre albert hall picnic seems a must - i'll be there . _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Mon May 14 18:42:08 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:42:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: le Arsicles de la bourgeoisie Message-ID: <200105141733.SAA18916@missprint.org> Hello, I've just had a thought the other day, that having arsicular cancer would be a pain in the arse... I dunno why I thought that. I didn't have a pain in the arse, but I did have a bit of pain in the tummy yesterday, after two day's worth of solid post-dissertation-handing-in drinking. Hmmmmm vodka. I was tempted to write to Ilovelarrythefrog at yahoo.com, but I suspected that I may have to speak French if I wrote to Larry, who is French, and since my vocabulaire des francais (thank you babelfish) consists of: "Ja'ime la vodka" "grmlgrmlgrmlgrmlgrmlgrmlgrml" "ah ah ah" and "yeeeeeeeerk" I don't think Monsieur Larry will appreciate it too much. Sam Walton said: >>Anyway, Clarke, Sarah J (EU) wrote a fine post I thought. More incediary anti-twee ramblings along those and Ken's lines would be good I think, but then again perhaps that would be better suited on a Clash list, or on a list where everybody is a maths teacher who thinks it's cool to own three post-1998 albums ;o) Sorry. Anwyay...<< I just saw my name mentioned, yay!.. but I think instead of the clash list we should do all that on a list where we all snog each other. Hmm wait a second.. :) "The day that Thatcher died" is a lie!! Does that mean Mrs Thatcher will be alive with us forever!? Arrrrrrrrgh! Good thing I'm a Tory supporter, they help the Fat Cats like people with computing jobs get richer... ..I'll have to find that stinking job first, tho. Arsicles and Red Bulls Ken ====================================================================== You're too tall, much too tall for a boyfriend they run and hide, from your bucktooth and split ends - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Tue May 15 01:36:13 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (m.e. curtin) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: if margaret thatcher is the devil, noah webster was surely her handmaiden Message-ID: well hello, i must say i'm a little miffed to note that no one has mentioned a certain perry como's death. shame on you indie kids! you should all be sewing black arm bands on your cardigans......it's the least you could do. you owe such fashion to this crooner of happy memory. well, him and arnold palmer anyway. do any of you remember that creepy show mastermind? i have only vague memories of it as i was a diminuitive young thing when i first took to watching bbc filler on pbs (yay buffalo (and now toronto) pbs - you've got nothing on erie county!). anyway, i do remember a bunch of tweed-clad crackpot contestants sweating over ridiculously obscure questions in black leather chairs. now that was a real quiz show. anyway, i was at this silly booksale the other day and i found teh official mastermind (two) quizbook for a quarter. naturally i bought it. out of some 800+ questions i knew about 6 answers legitimately. and i only knew about the playboy of the western world/aran island connection cuz i read about it the night before in a linguistics book. i guess i really only knew 5 and a half answers. where was i going with this story? typing this has just made me start wondering how many mastermind contestants were elvis fans. theyy definitely took care of business. yes, they're the boss(es). i wouldn't be at all surprised if more than 60% of all successful contestants were elvis fans. he's the mark of genius. i love elvis. but i'm not a genius. (sigh). i'm not even mildly competent. that's okay. i'm in a union. go cupe local 32! you can drive a city truck into the river without being terminated, but don't you dare not wear your VIBRANT orange shirt to work. that would spell d-i-s-a-s-t-e-r surely. i think next time i post (i'm guessing september 17) i might try to use proper sentence structure, and i may even use the correct puncuation. i know it's crazy, but i like living on the edge. nite nite kidlets marybeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OnLanguage at xxx.com Tue May 15 02:57:11 2001 From: OnLanguage at xxx.com (OnLanguage at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:57:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: hunger precedes reason. Message-ID: marybeth said: i think next time i post (i'm guessing september 17) which happens to be my twentyfirst birthday. how nice. so - is anyone else interested in this washington/oregon picnic? because a get-together of five [which is what it's shaping up to be. sigh.] hardly stands up next to the london gala. but we can make do, i suppose. i'll give it another few days, then post a set date and location and cross my fingers for surprise picnic-goers that i don't live with [not that you arent fabulous company, megan]. xoxostefanie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com Tue May 15 04:05:04 2001 From: Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com (Pixiepoet11 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:05:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: slow jams mix tape Message-ID: <8a.69b91a2.2831f6e0@aol.com> ROAD-TRIPPING THE NITE INTO DAY..... (jefffff) NYC is only 10 hours east from me!!! pick me up and i'll make a punk rock tape for the trip!! and so long as gas prices don't rise to over $5 by then, i'm definitely in!! TORONTO, TORONTO greetings to steve "kung fu" kado for helping me rid of my sat. nite hangover on sunday with a breakfast mixture of granola, yogurt and fruit!!! it was cool to have met you in your most fabulous of cities!! and to angel, angel..... didn't/couldn't see you against the backdrop of techno and drum & bass.... or was it the undistinguishable flesh that flew from thine eyes every few seconds (oh, my!). at any rate, i'm planning another visit this summer so perhaps this time round we could meet for cocktails! btw steve, how was the perogie party??? did the ukranian team win? or were they ousted by the germans? still looking for that key man greek wine tho.... HESSLER STREET FAIR this is an annual summer festival lasting 48 hours on a single brick street. full of love, falafal, punk rock, and hippies galore. i'm going with my friend mathew (from the infamous U2 experi -- the photos didn't come out, ughhh!!) anyway, any one from the northern ohio arena looking for something to do in addition to a road trip, please come on out. cleveland is the home of RAWK & rool... but, there are some cool corners and alley i could show..... B&S CONTENT.... *v. small* on the ride home from toronto, i made my best friend listen to them and he fell in love.... *of course he was slightly hung over too*, but i'm thinking another road trip is in order for him to become securely hooked! off to bed..... to dream of things that will never come true..... cheers & twines of dreams, evie :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue May 15 09:07:49 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:07:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Penguin Book of Birds' Arses (Large Print Edition) Message-ID: <000e01c0dd16$52d9d340$1662253e@itjfvkli> Foxes don't eat biscuits. They eat chickens. They rip their bastard heads off and spit feathers all over the tablecloth. Before the advent of Larry the Frog, Elenita99's best friend was a mobile phone with an endless stream of French loonies on the other end. Preston? I've heard the locals are a bit rough. I hope you're all being polite to these nice old ladies who man the ticket booths at provincial theatres. Don't forget, you are ambassadors for rock'n'roll. On the website, poor old Neil says stop writing to him asking when B&S are going to play in your town. I can sympathise - "When are you playing in Sidmouth? When are you playing in Sidmouth?" I'd like to go to the Royal Albert Hall. I'd like to go to Preston too. Beautiful Bournemouth. And all the other places. I'd like to do the whole tour. Has the tour got a name? The Guns'n'Roses tour is called "Chinese Democracy Starts Now" which suggests to me that they haven't really got over all their drug problems. Choo-Choo Charlie sounds like a particularly powerful strain of cocaine. Which reminds me, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG DAVE! I think it would be good if everyone met up before the Glasgow gigs in a pub, especially people who've come a long way. I understand there are some nice ones near the Barrowlands. Apparently there's a good one just opposite, really handy, called THE SARACEN'S HEAD. Why doesn't everyone meet up there? Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue May 15 18:40:21 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:40:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: biscuit shmiscuit Message-ID: <3B016A05.7076@camb.linst.ac.uk> up until about 4 months ago i thought foxes ate sheep,much to the amusement of my flatmates. Thats my dads fault, he has missinformed me all my life. "Dont eat chocolate and orange together, it makes you ill," er yeh, thats why they merged the two into one? "NEVER re-boil water"????"Dont open you eyes whilst crossing the road", ok, so that one wasnt real. MOLDY PEACHES, as fab as they may or may not be that is a bit of a shit name isnt it. I had a vision this morning, we should all get together and write a b&s football song. we could each have a line to sing and we could all get together for the video and hug/ sway in that kind of football fashion.AHHHHHH imagine it??? Perhaps at the end we could all disperse and start jigging around to the instrumental bit.YES!!!! ...and sets of the smoke alarm... sorry, that is what i was listening to, i thought it would be fun to write it as i heard it.i think thats me done, any fottbal song lyric suggestions? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue May 15 19:02:55 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:02:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: super Message-ID: <3B016F4F.3872@camb.linst.ac.uk> ah ha! im afraid it takes two weeks to develop the film so i dont know yet. Im gonna chop it up, jig it around, add some music and then try and get it on the site, although honey says it wont work, it will probably make peoples computers crash. Maybe i should have a private screening of it, anyway, some how some way you will all get too see it im sure ( hopefully b&s will use it as a music vid HINT HINT) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Tue May 15 14:07:27 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:07:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: On the count of three, everybody smile and say 'clone'. Message-ID: <00c301c0dd3f$fea8fe20$01c913ac@bathspa.ac.uk> >Mediocrity = popularity. To buttress this assertion by way of example: Gray >David, Toploader, Starsailor, Bridgett Jones' Diary [film and book],Captain >Correlli's Mandolin, Stereophonics. The fact that "Mediocrity = popularity" >has a little to do with the concept "lowest common denominator". Take the >recent example at Glasgow University where a distinguished intellectual >[some might say Scotland's leading author; I wouldn't] was beaten by a >two-bit comic with the catchphrase "Gonnae no' dae that". The case for the >prosecution rests. Erk, Starsailor should always be referred to as Shitsailor, even though that term is hopelessly tacky. If anyone has a better subversive name I'd like to know. Anyway, I have a belief that taste does not exist for any form of art. Taste is limited to food, where it can be explained but the biology of people's tongues and the inability to taste certain flavours. Music, however, as well as book and music is explained by something else. The main thrust of the argument is 1. Ease. If something doesn't break any boundaries or do anything new at all, it's easy to listen to. There is nothing unexpected to get your head round, nothing interesting that you need to dissect. People who have no real interest in art (the majority or the work/money/sex population) just go with anything they can enjoy after listening to it only once, ipso facto Mediocre Music (tm). The only things which usually break through this are bands/books/films/art which can follow all the surface rules, while doing something intelligent through subtexts or complexities or whatever. I use the majority of surviving 60's music as an example here as well as some classic books, like 1984 and such. However there are also other things that seem to make up 'taste', 2. Mood. This is very important as far as I see, and goes someway to accounting for the difference in taste between 'serious' music fans. However, this can usually be bypassed continued listening, and, to some extent, by guessing which mood you'd have to be in to enjoy something. Listening to Nick Cave or Sleater Kinney when you've just fallen in love isn't necessarily the best thing, and everyone knows The Stone Roses are best enjoyed in a field on a hot summers day. 3. Music experience. This seems to be both enlightening and limiting, though more of the former than the latter. You can often listen to something and here it sounds a little like something else you've heard and dismiss it, but I guess this ties into '1', if you put enough effort in, and it is genuinely good, you can usually understand why it's good, and minor differences are the things which shape music anyway. Most music has basically the same formula, but I think that the more music you listen to (properly, not just let it plink away in the background), the more you can understand subtleties, and the more you realise quality over easy hooks and gimmicks. 4. Image. This really is important to bands other than the S Club brigade. Image is a way of making your music say something, and, as that's pretty much all music does, I'd say it was pretty important. While individual songs should not be valued according to the bands assumed persona, I'd say that bands as a whole should, nay, have to be. A faceless band, saying nothing, but doing it with good tunes, is still a faceless band. Having said that, I don't have that much of a problem with bands not writing their own material. If someone can write and someone can sing, why not let them specialise? It's only the 1 writer = 20 bands ratio and the number of devaluing covers of great songs which is currently adding to the hermoginisation (sp) of our pop scene. I also find the contast stream of bands who 'can dance', to be bizaree in the extreme. When the hell was it decided that dancing ability helps to make a good record? No matter how hard a strain, I can never quite make out the footsteps of dancing barbie clones on 'Reach for the Sky'. The pop scene also seems to have a heel of a lot to do with promotion. Seeing as I've introduced bands like Looper and Kings of Conveniace to friends with resonable degrees of success, I think some of the problem with mediocrity is that people don't both filtering. As lot of people just like anything and don't bother to think about it. It's there, it's in our culture... why question it? This seems VERY dangerous to me, and, without being melodramatic, I'd say it's the kind of attitude that made the holocaust possible. Having said all that, I recently saw 'Rock Action' by Mogwai at number 12 in the album charts in HMV. Needless to say I bought it immediately (I've been meaning to buy some Mogwai for ages), and it's great. I'm wondering if this is leading up to a revolution... what with Gorrillaz (sp?) in there too and number 9 or some such. Nah, they probably just put it in the wrong slot, either that or I was dreaming. I didn't pinch myself, and the CD a couple of times though... Anyway, this rant was a roundabout way of getting out of doing an essay... please forgive me. > On a scale of 1 to pish-poor-awful. 1 being the least pish-poor-awful and > pish-poor-awful being the most pish-poor-awful. I reckon I'd have to say > Feeder are about 9. Y'know. Pretty high. "I got a brand new car... *muffled screams*" > PS Just a little note on Disco; it's an unfairly maligned genre of music, > y'know. Donna Summer's I Feel Love. Ah mean, c'mon. "It was > unprecedented. No verse, no chorus, just Summer's purring mantra set over > endless, oscillating, undulating, repetitive sequencer-driven beats." Wow, Kid A ripped of Donna Summer! Who would have thought it. Actually, I love that album, I was just being silly. Many times I've laughed when people said "I don't like it, it's got no guitars", actually it was more crying that laughing, but there you go. >PPS That's my fifteen minutes. Anybody care to debate? Go on, you know you >want to. I've never actually had an argument/convo with anyone on Sinister. >I always shy away from real discussion. Do I qualify? PEter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Tue May 15 14:12:53 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:12:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Now we know how many holes... Message-ID: heehee i've got my tix for a prince albert now, but OH! NO! it's graduation day at college!! will they let me have the day off!?!?!? they are deciding as we speak :/ i spose if the worst came to the worst i could tell them to stuff their job UP THIER COLLECTIVE ARSE and then ride sting's scooter off the white cliffs of dover, but hopefully it won't come to that... i went to see mj hibbert on friday. he's GRATE and also VALID. Clarke, Sarah J (EU) [Sarah.J.Clarke at maff.gsi.gov.uk] was there also and gave me poke-cards in an attempt to suck me into her world of oddly shaped cartoon characters (and that's just her flatmates ho! ho! ) twas my birfday yesterday (i am now very old) and i got the "BIG BOOK OF HOW MAN DIDN'T GO TO THE MOON ACTUALLY" which looks ace and also the "BIG BOOK OF WASHED UP BRAT PACK ACTORS" which potentially looks better. Did you know Antony Michael Hall (the geeky one) was having HOT TONGUE ACTION with Molly Ringwald (the ginger one) whilst they were filming the breakfast club?? bastard... Mind you by the time he was 17 he was drinking TWO PINTS of vodka a day. How come no one talks about John Hughes on this list any more? He's still subscribed isn't he? The Miller claimed that he wanted to come to england for the gigs, but look what happened to Ronnie Biggs when he came home... The day that thatcher dies will be one of the happiest days ever. I have the bunting and application form to hold a street party all ready to go. There seems to have been a right old influx of cam.ac.uk types recently, come on ox.ac.uk where are you all?? Prolly out standing on the correct end of a punt or something... Speaking of which, must organise oxpicnic soooon, suggestions for dates please the kids. Maybe we should all get dressed up, tuxes, ballgowns etc if we're going somewhere as posh as the Albert Hall. We could recreate the prom from Pretty in Pink... xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue May 15 14:46:49 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: stress, stress, breathe, stress, stress and.... *relax* Message-ID: <20010515134649.11481.qmail@web618.mail.yahoo.com> hello all. Yay! exam time! Good luck to everyone else doing some sort of exams now. My thoughts would be with you if I wasn't feeling particularly selfish and trying to keep them aligned to myself at the moment. It was just difficult last week, cos it was so sunny, and I wanted to sit outside while my hayfever has yet to appear. I've got an exam on Thursday, by the way, and had my first one last week, talking about Norwegian babies and why its a bad idea to live until 150 years old. Going to the B+S gig on the 16th at the barrowlands, as a sort of treat for finishing my final year exams. Also, I believe thats the same day I get my results. Its starting to feel odd at the moment. Now I have (almost) achieved two of my childhood dreams. I decided I wanted to be a student when I was a kid. And I also wanted to work in a shoe shop, (I was a sensible child with aspirations within my reach. Except the chocie box.) and now I've done both of those. And now, with these B+S gigs.... blimey. Life after the 17th of June... what will be left to look forward to? Where will my life be without essay deadlines and sitting in the cafe all day talking to pals who wander in and out? Where will my life be, I ASK YOU!!!! I'm not sure. I'm going to miss uni, having no money, and being able to see all my pals without making any effort to call them up cos I just bump into them on campus (a common problem if you don't look where you are going.) I have decided not to try and achieve any of my teenage dreams, cos I seem to have gone off the idea of snogging Johnny Depp totally now. (Hes getting a bit old these days). Nor am I ever going to get a starring role in Beverley Hills 90210 (nor want one) and also have totally gone off the idea of being a top lawyer (it involves studying.) Um, thats it for now. Oh, and I can't sleep too well at the moment. Last night Norwegian grammar went through my mind. begrave begraver begravd har begravd Anyone got any suggestions? (note: Eastenders plot lines don't have the effect of getting grammar out my mind when I'm trying to relax either) Later you lot! Idlebumfluff. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chickfactor at xxx.uk Tue May 15 15:06:06 2001 From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:06:06 -0700 Subject: Sinister: gorgeous book, shiny shiny Message-ID: <200105151406.HAA32099@mail12.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From drug_dru at xxx.com Tue May 15 14:32:49 2001 From: drug_dru at xxx.com (Linus loves dogs.) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:32:49 Subject: Sinister: Baroque Music Message-ID: Hello, is there any of you who likes Baroque music like Jean-Baptiste Lully, Marin Marais, Henry Purcell ? Linus _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From william.flanagan at xxx.uk Tue May 15 16:34:13 2001 From: william.flanagan at xxx.uk (Flanagan, William) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RAH!!! Message-ID: hello all, this is my first post so bear with me... sometimes it seems although things couldn't get any better, and then somehow they suddenly do... i'm a lazy physics student who spends far too much time playing a strange sport called Canoe (Kayak) Polo. yes, it is a real sport, played by over 30 teams at international level. it could be described as a cross between rugby, waterpolo and canoeing. anyway, i'm the captain of the University of London Union Club, and play in the men's a-team, and at the weekend we managed to win the student championships, which in the world of kayak polo is a VERY BIG THING. so when i woke up on monday morning nursing an almighty hangover and slowly remembering clinging to a minibus roof at 2am as it was been driven at 40mph down a main road (really!), i was ecstatic to hear that b&s were playing the Royal Albert Hall. for once being at Imperial College has it's advantages... my department is virtually opposite the R.A.H., and the union is next door to it.... therefore i suggest a picnic in hyde park (which is next to my college as well) in the afternoon before the gig and/or a 'few' drinks in our lovely Student's Union. as the 29th june is the last day of term, the Union should have a big carnival thing going on in the evening. so if people wanted, they could walk the 100 yards from the RAH after the gig to carry on drinking till 1am. unfortunately the dj's at our Union are world-renowned for their lack of taste, so we might be better off finding a decent indie club. ...details and times of this little venture can be worked out nearer the time... anyway, the ugly pile of revision calls... will. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue May 15 17:45:03 2001 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:45:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: your head is like a yo yo/your neck is like a string. References: Message-ID: <004f01c0dd5e$7b611c40$5686968e@yesic.com> linus sed: > Hello, is there any of you who likes Baroque music like Jean-Baptiste Lully, > Marin Marais, Henry Purcell ? yo and i be like BLING BLING!!! we been rockin' mad jointz from tha' early music/baroque period G! fuckin' Hilliard Ensemble jointz, word! but fuck purcell dun, that shit is weak compared to shutz, his historias are HYPE! yo, and did anyone peep that Organa Lux ceedee by Duffy (or was it Duffay i alwayz get those niggas confused) that was mighty! but, like early music is so very january...now its time for Ligeti and reevaluating later clash albums. i'm just sorting out combat rock at the moment. so does this reevaluation of later clash mean that a reevaluation of the later works of EC (esp EC mit BB) is in the works? could my notoriously strident viewpoint on that particularly loathesome collaboration summersault into a favourable one? no. and pynchon. i like reading pynchon. i, unlike many, don't assume that i've got some sort of right to understand things so all the words just sort of zip past and it feels good. what i also like about pynchon is that his stories all revolve around various inanimate substances transmitting secret messages...this really appeals to me...i don't have a bathtub, but i do have this really scary, grotty, gross, shower-stall. i was using it as a location for cleaning my body (not my'self') and i was thinking about the stack of reading that i have for the summer (the new sheila heti stories, mayakovsky and pynchon) and on the pynchon thing (somewhere around rinsing the shampooo out of my hair) i got to thinking about what the plastic in the wall of the shower had to say. like, what message was it communicating and in which register did it communicate? and for whom is this message intended? often i look at the skyscrapers i can see from my roof or window at night and i imagine that the erratic patterns made by the lit-up windows are a kind of message. i see these buildings' illuminations as similar to the punch cards they used to program computers with ...and if i can figure it out (the coding) then what would i know? what if its just the buildings talking to eachother? knowing me i'd probably get in trouble for figuring it out. i should quit before i catch hell. of course none of this has to do with 'architecture', since people and life are to be resolutely separated from such a rarified thing. grr. i am now getting fed up with architecture. i mean i used to be disgusted and now i just try to be amused...why bother maintaining the distinction between architecture and building if no one is willing to view architecture as the hegelian 'aesthetic supplement'? and how exactly are we to determine (viz. the aesthetic supplement) what are the necessary bits and what the fruity aesthetic bits? someone help me. tying it back in, gordon, also mentioned handel's xerxes. which is pretty exciting. is the version you were listening to perhaps the new-ish one that came out on harmonia mundi that doesn't come with a libretto? never mind, also speaking of xerxes, i also saw a pretty decent (given that he was badly suffering from allergies) Daniel Taylor recital. i love it when men sing like girls, like jimmy sommerville in orlando. actually, the hope of seeing jimmy sommerville up in a tree somewhere is almost the only reason i bother to look up anymore. that and tall buildings (but only at night). and hey! shout-outs to EVeIE (pixiepoet11) who had breakfast with me on sunday even though she usually eats breakfast in cleveland! sorry i talk so much and so quickly. i also saw 'i hired a contract killer' with my favourite actor in the world jean pierre leaud in it. rah! and joe strummer! rah! and directed by aki kaurismaki! who is finnish! and i will be visiting finland in june! and am greatly excited! does anyone in finland want to show me the sights? rah! after breakfast with eveie i went to work at the record store and bought more hardcore records. sometimes i really wish that i had been alive earlier and could have been all harDCore, i'm sure that steve walkn and i would have made great hard-core dc kids. and teenbeat! also, i tremble with excitement at the thought of the forthcoming owls records. of course emo is now a bad word, so i should just shut it before i get some kind of heck for my tim kinsella liking ways. but he will probably be screaming again! and after work i went to an ethnic warfare/pierogie making party. and we made lots of pierogies and ate them, and people filled the pierogies with fillings that best corresponded to their ethnic background, which didn't really get off to such a great start since all the people from really non-dumpling cultures chickened out, but there were gyoza pierogies and finnish pierogies and israeli pierogies but unfortunately team sri lanka and scotland failed to show up. then we ate them, and then we had excess dough, so we ran out onto the lawn and threw it at eachother and played in the construction site across the street and then we wrestled on the lawn and then we watched the fireman's ball. i also drank some kvass which made me feel bad. goodnight! goodevening! s t e vn !!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Tue May 15 19:14:38 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:14:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: God Bless John Hughes Message-ID: I was awful happy to see CarsmileSteve mention John Hughes and this vision of loveliness that is Molly Ringwald. What a truly marvellous woman she is (well, was). I spent quite some time in the pub discussing my fave 80s teen movies this afternoon, and shocked all my friends with the fact that I had to write an essay on The Breakfast Club last year. Yes, a grand a year tutition fees and I end up studying a big nostriled, yet oddly attractive boy called Bender. What an education I'm getting. I forget what I learned about the film, exactly, except that through extensive research I found out that Bender's joke doesn't really exist and thus has no ending. May I also recommend Some Kind of Wonderful, which is my best all time 80's film. Starring Eric Stoltz as the boy from the wrong side of the tracks and Lea Thompson as the rich bitch (although she isn't really) it's a wonderful example of film-making by numbers but it's cracking. And Joy Division are on the soundtrack. I got my tickets for Birmingham today but I'm a bit too sleepy to feel excited. It will be nice to go to Brum, though, as I spent the first three years of my life there. Very few memories except weeing in places that I shouldn't and getting laughed at by my big sister. I hope that doesn't happen every time I go to Birmingham.... Love Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Tue May 15 20:03:33 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:03:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Curious Cola Message-ID: Hello there my little fellow Sinisterines. Yet again, I peep my head out from behind the lurkers bush, where we're all having a little picnic of our own (why is it that everytime I think of Sinister Picnics, I always have an image of Yogi Bear and Boo-Boo (who are really Sinisterines in a bear suit ) running about and stealing everyone's pic-a-nic-a baskets, before they run away giggling being chased and end up joining in with the communal football game. I don't know-warped imagination I guess.) Why can no one have a picnic in Manchester? I know that it's not the nicest city to have a picnic in, what with the pollution/rain/Stone Rose-Oasis pastiches wreaking havoc across our fair city, but it would be nice to do something like that before the Preston gig. We could swap badges and have a sing -song around the campfire. It would be all nice and cosy. I'm really looking forward to seeing the mighty Belle and Seb again. Last time I saw them, it was at Manchester Town Hall on a Saturday night in 1997 supported by the wonderfully lucid Arab Strap. However, this appears to be a gig which is only present in the minds of myself and the two friends I went with as no one else I know seems to have gone to it. Surely this can't be? I may make up comedy sketches (The most famous one amongst me and my friends is the Newman and Baddiel sketch I have reportedly seen which involves a breakdancing Virgin Mary. Look, I know it exists, just have some faith in me,ok?) but there is no way on earth that my subconscious can concoct a whole gig. They kept messing up the words if I remember rightly and I remember prompting them on in Like Dylan in the movies. Stuart bit his lower lip and looked yummy. Sigh I may have a Politics exam the next day, but goddamit I'm going to go and see Belle and Sebastian! I have also been rediscovering the joys of 1980s cartoons. Does anyone remember Jem? Surely it was the bestest girls cartoon ever to grace our TV sets. There was like this ordinary girly who had earings which, when she touched them and said the magic words turned her into a Glam Rock star with biiig pink hair! And her band had a rival band who look like a female version of the Ramones, or just a 80s version of Kenickie. Anyway, it was aceness. I used to go around when I was a little girl touching my earings, thinking I would grow Pink hair. I never did. Then again, when I was about four years old, I was convinced I was She-Ra. Maybe I was just an overly precocious child. Anyway, I'm off now to go and eat sweeties (Mmmm, someone just gave me a Strawberries and Cream Polo and they are the yummiest things ever.) Was anyone at the Belle and Sebastian night at the Star and Garter last Friday night? It was good, but would have been better if they hadn't just kept repeating the same songs over and over. I made peace with the girly whose boyfriend a stole a year ago from that night. Life is strange I suppose. Cay XXx P.S. To the Boy who writes the story ;Judy and the Dream of Horses, when is there going to be an update? P.P.S-To the person who was talking about making the silly t-shirts. Could you make one for me? The Great Western Trains Safety Instructions one would be immensely appreciated. P.P.P.S-The boy called Nick on here who knows my bestest friend in the whole wide world Kate Dornan and drinks lots of Champagne I bid a cheery hello to :-) "I'm just a girl in cordoroys, I'm not terrific, but I'm competent..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue May 15 20:21:35 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:21:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: I could be your car's one good headlight Message-ID: <15.144cf21e.2832dbbf@aol.com> Hewwo, Exams are bad. I'm going to take a stand now and say that they are truly evil. I had my first ever proper exam yesterday and it was odd. The blonde's mobile phone went off and it was funny and amusing. And the hard kids threw stuff at me and shouted out 'rectum' and made fart noises and the invigilators never did anything cause they were asleep i think. I have not had the hugest amount of sleep. I was off today cause of study leave. I got to do maths work, but without the hard kids flicking spitball at the back of my neck. And Igor came round and said "Haw, do you wantae cum oot fir sim fitba and we can git a chase aff the 'Wegie neds in spit oan theim?". And I said, no. But he prank phone called James the Ginger Perv instead, and i had to stuff my hand in my mouth so I wouldn't laugh and give it away. I am forever indebted to him for making me giggle like that. Especially when he pretended to be Julian Danskin and said "Hewwo young james, would you like some polish meat in you?". Lay of Sheffield Wednesday. They are good because their nickname is the owls and they have a nice little owl on their badge, called tommi. Except I made that part up, but no one's ever said he's not called tommi. All my friends left school now, and I'm still there, with the blonde. But I've hopefully only got one year left, before I go to uni, drop out and become a binman. I don't much fancy being a binman. I could become a pop star, and do interviews where I urge people to vote for the Green Party cause they like trees and then sensationally split my band up, because I couldn't get Ribena on tap in my dressing room when we play the Albert Hall just like B&S are doing the toffs. I got a really nice good luck card from someone who signed it "Your Fairy Godmother". I'd say it was probably my real godmother, but she hates me. She's a bit of a grownup hard kid. I would laugh if B&S played the SECC, cause spice girls played there and they are grate. Oh, and lay off Shed Seven too. They are good, they sound just like Bananarama. I've become a badge whore. This is my logic, because I will have any badge, as long as it pins to my jacket. My latest badges are: two french one, a spanish one and an italian one from my languages teacher, a rainbow guides one which I found, a Nu Metal one, which says 'Nu Metal' (and then "is pish I love pop" in biro, who could have wrote that i wonder?). Oh and a Star Trek one. I love Star Trek, I don't care if its sad. It really annoys my when people say "if memory serves me". My old english teacher says that and it makes me want to commit a violent and sickening homicide because it makes him sound like a complete pretentious prat and its such a teachery thing to come out with. Oh, if anyone here says that I'm going to go red and apologise now. I'm going a bit mad, amen't I? I think its exams. They're not a positive thing at all. I'm going to go away now. Maybe I'll study. Maybe I'll watch some rainbow brite. Or daydream about what Pamela said about Chris Geddes and strawberry jam. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Tue May 15 20:25:14 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:25:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Penguin Book of Birds' Arses (Large Print Edition) References: <000e01c0dd16$52d9d340$1662253e@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <3B01829A.8CC4730@netscapeonline.co.uk> the saracen's pub sounds scary: that whole area (Barrowlands) is scary... Ally 96 is organising something for the Saturday afternoon, probably in Kelvingrove Park, but you perhaps mean Friday? I mean Glasgow's full of cool bars... maybe you're after the Mcllvaney (?) experience like, hard men drinking establishments, rather than the gentile lounges of easy, such as, say, North Britain's own Groucho (St.Judes) What's this saracen place like? Mind you, I won't be there on Friday. mmm I wrote to larry too. The plastic dinosaur wasn't too amused to be referred to in this fashion. I know, I know; dinosaurs are British, not French and maybe American, but Spielberg is no Godard, or something. Does Ele have Isabelle Adjani's phone number? Gordon Peter Miller wrote: > Foxes don't eat biscuits. They eat chickens. They rip their bastard heads > off and spit feathers all over the tablecloth. > > Before the advent of Larry the Frog, Elenita99's best friend was a mobile > phone with an endless stream of French loonies on the other end. > > Preston? I've heard the locals are a bit rough. I hope you're all being > polite to these nice old ladies who man the ticket booths at provincial > theatres. Don't forget, you are ambassadors for rock'n'roll. On the website, > poor old Neil says stop > writing to him asking when B&S are going to play in your town. I can > sympathise - "When are you playing in Sidmouth? When are you playing in > Sidmouth?" I'd like to go to the Royal Albert Hall. I'd like to go to > Preston too. Beautiful Bournemouth. And all the other places. I'd like to do > the whole tour. Has > the tour got a name? The Guns'n'Roses tour is called "Chinese Democracy > Starts Now" which suggests to me that they haven't really got over all their > drug problems. > > Choo-Choo Charlie sounds like a particularly powerful strain of cocaine. > > Which reminds me, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG DAVE! > > I think it would be good if everyone met up before the Glasgow gigs in a > pub, especially people who've come a long way. I understand there are some > nice ones near the Barrowlands. Apparently there's a good one just opposite, > really handy, called THE SARACEN'S HEAD. Why doesn't everyone meet up there? > > Sister Disco > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue May 15 23:06:53 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:06:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 'When Bilbo opened his eyes, he wondered if he had; Message-ID: for it was just as dark as with them shut.' "hi fans" shouts me!!!! so did ya miss me? I HATE MY COMPOOTER it died on me (again) a few weeks ago and i've finally got it working again and guess what? 500 bloody e-mails waiting in my inbox so i've dredged through them all, not all sinister ones mind you, the sigur ros list talk as much as you do, apparrently the new metallica album will be heavily influenced by sigur ros! so this mail will be a list of disjointed reactions to what's cought my eye on sinister over the last x weeks: Peter Miller said >When AIDS first started to become popular, people >were advised to dribble cognac down their partner's back as a substitute >for >"penetration" call me unimaginative but 'eh?', how's that work then? >A video for "Jonathan David" is likely to be shot in >the band's hometown of Glasgow May 19 and 20, the >group's U.K. spokesperson said. In the meantime, the >band is considering a director for the clip. so are we all going to glasgie to roam round in a big scary sinister herd (what is the collective noun for us then?, a picnic of sinisterians) untill we fing the film crew and force them into letting us be in the vid? ok, so the B&S tribute band thing i thought of, well we've got 2 stuart murdochs and a stuard david so i think we'll put that plan on hold for a while, ok? i've only ever bought one big issue and that was from a mad stots bokie who really sold it to me, jumping around and reading bits to me until i bought one , he was hilarious. i know they're homeless and dont have much to smile about but they could put some life into their sales pitch, youknowarramean? so next weekend is the WOW festival here on tyneside, big free festival held on the north bank of the tyne over 3 days every spring and is usually quite good, good excuse to wander around in the sun for a long weekend getting absolutely smashed and watching bands from all over the world. they usually have a big name band to close it all with; '99 was the wailers (minus bob obviously), last year it was asian dub foundation (my parents could hear the bass 4 miles away at my house), but this year we have, wait for it, the levellers (yeah, not). oh well , still getting pissed up though , and they have fireworks. last year we missed the last ferry home but luckily my mate phil's dad is the tyne pilot so we got a lift over the water on his boat, yay! 'can u dig it' was by the mock turtles and not pop will... carsmile said >How come no one talks about John Hughes on this list any more? He's still >subscribed isn't he? is he actually on this list or am i just being gullible? are there actually any famous people on this list then?, out of 1400 there must be one or two vaguely heard of people here. and someone mentioned calling stuart 'struan' (or rather *not* calling stuart 'struan') so i just have to ask, why *do* we call him struan, was this something from before i joined? i know this post has turned out a bit long but i've had withdrawal symptoms, but one thing before i go, some-one (carnt remember who) said this: >bonus comment: I had heard the expression "spirit ditch" in a sparklehorse >song and thought it was one of their genius lyrical inventions (in fact, >they are using it twice on their last record), until Jules enlightened me >about the fact that it's a normal english expression. Wow, what a language! >I think I'm in love. I should learn it sometime.... so what actually is a spirit ditch, i've never heard of one either well thet's all from me see you all @ the gigs (well just the scarbrough one) pez* ps - i have finally read *and* understood most of one of pinefox's posts! well *i* thought it was an acheivment - sod you all then. www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Tue May 15 23:41:19 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:41:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: what you dont know could fill a warehouse Message-ID: I have consulted my local foxes and they do indeed like biscuits. They rarely have access to chickens due to intensive factory farming and having 4 scrawny, sickly de-beaked chooks crammed into cages no bigger than your computer moniter... so these days your average city fox prefers mushroom biryani or cheese and chips. Although a friend of mine once rescued a cub from a post-hunt den (it survived the dogs through some miracle) and it liked custard creams dipped in tea. He called it rusty and it still lives with him on his farm- although it's quite lardy now (but thats biscuits for you!) Jules x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Wed May 16 01:57:45 2001 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:57:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: finlandia. Message-ID: <001301c0dda3$39bd7820$3c86968e@yesic.com> this is total list abuse but here it goes... does anyone live in finland? does anyone live in helsinki in finland? alternatively does anyone live in imatra? if you do would you be at all interested in showing me around as i will be visiting in early june and am slightly intimidated by the complete different-ness of the finnish language etc. thanks s t e v e n +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From drug_dru at xxx.com Wed May 16 02:30:05 2001 From: drug_dru at xxx.com (Linus loves dogs.) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:30:05 Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm baroque again Message-ID: Sorry Linda, I wanted to know if there is anyone who likes Baroque music cos Baroque music is sort of like Belle and Sebastian, not too main streeam and a lot of people dont pa much attention to them. Belle and Sebastian indeed used some Baroque musical instruments like the harpsichord, recorders... I have been thinking if i can learn how to play a lute or a theorbo, and play it in a band, and that would be gr8. Like having a band who has a basse-continue... it will be kind of unique. I have always been thinking combining baorque music and indie stuff together... but its quite uneasy... Linus xxxx Hong Kong ICQ :19768869 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Tue May 15 05:12:57 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:12:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Party in the Park...NYC Sinister picnic! Message-ID: <000b01c0dcf5$5403b040$da47a8c0@udrtg> Tonight while watching Buffy, we (the Powers That Be in NYC Sinisterland) decided to have a picnic. We said the first Saturday of June, but that would be the 2nd, which is a little early for a first Saturday! So I think the 9th sounds about right. So June 9th, 2 pm, we're going to party in the park!!! Right? You're all coming, right?! Okay the picnic will be in the same spot as the one last September (for lack of better planning) and I can guarantee it's not in Primrose Hill or Greenwich and we're not arguing about it like those English fuckers. This particular picnic spot, in case you weren't there (although you SHOULD have been), is right behind the Metropolitan Museum of Art on the east side of the Great Lawn. (If you ever fly to points east of the Newark airport, ie Europe, you should fly at night and look at Manhattan from above. The streetlights around the Great Lawn form this amazing pattern.) More details later, I'll keep reminding you of the picnic because I really want you to come! It's no one's birthday this time, but you can still bring me presents. If you have questions, please email me. Heck, just email me anyway, I like email. If there are huge problems with the date, like a million people want to come to the picnic but can't make it that day, we can move it, but as of now it's June 9th. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed May 16 08:20:29 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S Shine in International Spotlight Message-ID: <005c01c0ddd8$b0ffc340$0101a8c0@pavilion> Hi Kiddos, I got my passport photo taken today, in last-minute preparation for Europe trip this summer. And I managed to sneak my B&S badge into the photo! Our favorite popstars will be even more famous because of this. See proof here: http://www.brier2.homestead.com/passport.html And RE: the LA-LA-Land meetup.... are there really only 3 of us?? I should recommend that any list-members on the entire left-side of the continent should give yourself up to the allure of Los Angeles.... it's beckoning with open arms and open fields of eucalyptus-- WESTWARD BOUND!! The fact that Belle et Sebby might do a US tour only on the west coast should assure an LA meetup at that time, but don't wait for what might never happen! This historical first California Picnic will be the one you don't want to miss. Plus, we can talk about how much the East-Coast Sinisterees hate us because WE get a tour and THEY don't. We can draw our lines like Puffy Combs and Suge Knight. Or something. REM is coming up on David Letterman. Gotta go watch. And (K Records darling) Mirah is playing here in town day-after-tomorrow. Whatta week! Love, Brier P.S. Any sign of ListDom? She should call me if she ever gets out of the minivan. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed May 16 10:17:52 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: That Doesn't Mean We're N'dlovu Message-ID: <20010516091752.17283.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> If memory serves, the geezer Miller used to live in Glasgow. That must be why he is saying amusingly silly things like >>> I think it would be good if everyone met up before the Glasgow gigs in a pub, especially people who've come a long way. I understand there are some nice ones near the Barrowlands. Apparently there's a good one just opposite, really handy, called THE SARACEN'S HEAD. Why doesn't everyone meet up there? If I'm not mistaken, those words 'I understand' and 'Apparently' are a joke. In fact I would be very surprised if they're not. Then again, I still can't work out whether Miller was implying that *he* was going to these gigs. That seems, on the face of it, to be implied by his mail, but it also seems out of character. For one thing, it would mean people seeing him, and finding out what he looked like; which would be wrong. Does he dare disturb the universe? And if he does fly, will he take that good big Book of Essays that he was banging on about a few months ago, to stop him becoming unenlightened during the long journey? The geezer Miller also said: >>> Before the advent of Larry the Frog - 'advent'. I like that, that 'advent' - >>> Elenita99's best friend was a mobile phone with an endless stream of French loonies on the other end. Well, now her best friend is a mobile Canadian with a string of English loonies on his end. >>> Don't forget, you are ambassadors for rock'n'roll. This reminds me, I meant to bring up Michael Bracewell's ENGLAND IS MINE a week or so ago. Has anyone, including the Miller, ever read it? I suppose it's time to go and read some Clich�s. Here are a few: In what can no man tell the future has in for us? Store. With what do certain belligerents make their military dispositions? Typical Teutonic thoroughness. In what manner do wishful thinkers imagine that the war will be over this year? Fondly. Take the word, 'relegate'. To what must a person be relegated? That obscurity from which he should never have been permitted to emerge. What may one do with a guess, provided one is permitted? Hazard. And what is comment? Superfluous. If my editor is reading this (this isn't a clich� - is it?), I have two messages for her: 1) do you still have Further Cuttings collection of mine?; 2) I really do so hope your lads knock 'em dead. Really, I do. I would be delighted if they get that treble. McAllister and Berger - I feel sure you'll agree - must start the game. Finally, I liked what Carsmile said about the cartoon characters. How - as Reynolds might have said - how *droll* he can be. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Wed May 16 10:24:41 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (lulou) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:24:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Pick a window, pal, you're leaving In-Reply-To: <3B01829A.8CC4730@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: Puppetmaster Peter is being a bit cruel here - I think the Saracen's Head is the most frightening pub in Glasgow - at least it used to be. It had a picture of a disembodied "moor" (no - not Chelmsford UK)'s head on the board outside, possibly dripping blood. My Dad pointed it out to me when I was about 6, saying proudly that he had been in it once. Maybe it is a theme pub now, but I will give ten quid to anyone who goes in, asks the clientele if they like Baroque music. Keith Watson would say "It is not that bad, really." Regarding Linus's post on Baroque - I mailed a gentle reminder to him (and it applies to others, I suppose) that 1400 people are reading his post, and it will be archived, and so this is a chance to say more than just "does anyone like?" . His follow up post said more and that was Good. I wanted to be an English teacher but I didn't get an honours degree. I don't think that anyone has mentioned that Mr Chris Leonard is supporting The Dudley Corporation, featuring Joss and Dudley of this parish at the 13th Note in Glasgow on June 2nd. http://www.thumped.com/dudley/ I had a dream last night that a group of neds chased me and Honey home, and it was very scary as they wouldn't leave. A huddle of sinisterines? A meander of sinisterines, a epiphany of sinisterines? Back to work. Linda xxx Surrogate list mama +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk Wed May 16 12:06:47 2001 From: Nigel.R.Townshend at xxx.uk (Nigel R. Townshend) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:06:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I could be your car's one good headlight In-Reply-To: <15.144cf21e.2832dbbf@aol.com> References: <15.144cf21e.2832dbbf@aol.com> Message-ID: JENOWL22 at aol.com writes: >Lay of Sheffield Wednesday. They are good because their nickname is the owls no they rubbish and they're not the owls there the pigs as history will tell us: "The Wednesday" sports club was formed on 4th September 1867. The club was founded as a "Gentleman's Cricket Society. The football club was not founded until 13 years later, and first played its games at the Olive Grove Sports Ground in Heeley before moving to a new stadium in the Owlerton district of Sheffield. The first Ordnance Survey maps (1850's) mark a building close to where the stadium now stands as 'Swine Cottage'. They also show another farm on Penistone Road, south of where the North Stand is situated, which was also believed to be a large piggery. Pork farming is thought to have been practised in the area since the early 1800's, and did not cease until around 1900 when the city's rapid expansion put an end to livestock production in the area. At its height the "Owlerton Piggery," as it was known, provided work for some 50 employees. Initial discussions about a nickname began soon after the Wednesday arrived at Owlerton. In reference to their new home, most club officials were in favour of "The Owls." However, another suggestion was also popular. In view of the area's strong tradition of pork farming, a popular grass-roots alternative was "The Pigs." Indeed the clubs board was split 50 / 50 when they took a vote on the new nickname. The Chairmans vote swung it and they decided upon The Owls. However as one board member was quoted in the minutes We may now be called The Owls, but well always be The Pigs to me. Although the name "Owls" prevailed, many working class supporters continued to refer to their team as "t'pigs." As late as the 1920's, fans used to welcome their team onto the field with the characteristic grunting sound we still associate with the club. BBC commentator Edward Milburn, who famously described Hillsborough as a sea of grunts moments after The Wednesday won the First Division title in 1932, once referred to this peculiarity. Although most Wednesday fans deny it today, the evidence that they are "pigs" is unequivocal. from http://www.sufc.co.uk/ ps sorry i will never blatenley miss use sinsiter ever again for promtoing sheffield united and besmirching sheffield wednesday +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed May 16 13:24:15 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:24:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And now I'm having to tug myself off round the clock because I'm not having any proper sex with girls Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027754E8@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> OK, A few boring bits of info: The cover of the new B&S single is on the Jeepster site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/discography/images/JPRS022.jpg, and appears to feature Ruth Madoc from Hi-de-Hi wearing a toga. Which is only slightly less disturbing than the fact that out of the three people on the cover, they only possess 2 eyes between them. Maybe they take it in turns to use them? For those who haven't got an advance copy (that'll be most of us, so stop being smug about it please), there's a 30 second clip of Jonathan David at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/record_box.shtml. You can get tickets for the Preston gig online, but only if you don't mind paying £4.25 for postage. For a single piece of paper. So if anyone in the North West can get a ticket from their local record shop for me, I'll repay you with money and sexual favours (optional). The Scarborough tickets are STILL not on sale, but you can get tickets for Bee Gees Gold at the same venue 3 days earlier, which sounds like a much better night out. I think it's great to see that B&S are sticking to their policy of playing unusual venues, harking back to the Gothic splendour of the Manchester Town Hall gigs a few years back. Although I still wish they'd done their planned tour of Britain on a boat. And a part of me would love to see them playing at Nottingham's Rock City, just for the comedy value. The thing is, whenever they've done concerts in the past, the music press seem determined to review the crowd instead of reviewing the gig (see the archives if you don't believe me), so I think we should start a mosh pit at the Royal Albert Hall, just to give the journalists something to talk about. Any suggestions on which song should be moshed to are welcome. And anyone who suggests "Beyond the Sunrise" will be ignored, because that would just be silly. No Thai news I'm afraid, but this comes from our Brunei correspondent: A Bruneian wife can now be charged with neglect if she refuses to have sex with her husband, under new 'Brunei Muslim Family Laws' adopted by the sultanate last month. Fines of up to US$250 or three days in jail can be meted out to a wife who refuses, without good cause, to have sex with her husband, particularly if he has given her advance notice to be available. I would just like to mention Chris Waddle's goal at Wembley. No reason. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Wed May 16 13:51:59 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Put the book back on the shelf (I wish I could) Message-ID: <200105161245.NAA05614@missprint.org> Hello, Loads of people are talking about exam pressures, bless their little poor souls.. hmm but wait I am exams too ARRRRRRRGGH it's next Monday! shivers. I am also applying for a job, however, the other day, I had a dream that I finally got a job, but I got sacked straight away!! (It was because of something like soon after I started the job there was a bank holiday Monday, and I have totally forgotten I had a job and didn't turn up until the Friday and they weren't impressed) A bad omen, I think :-( I'm like as looking forward to the B&S gig as some guy who can't turn their heads and has his eyes open! Ooooh hello glasgow, and my friend is getting me the Reverse Prince Albert Hall tickets woohoo. I hope they play Judy is a dick slap. Like Big Stu, I'm very dissapointed that they won't play Rock City in Nottingham, especially given the Iron Maiden homage of their new single Jonathan and David. Peter Miller said: >>Foxes don't eat biscuits. They eat chickens. They rip their bastard heads off and spit feathers all over the tablecloth.<< I eat chicken too, does that make me a fox? (Hope so; hello girls) Julie said: >>It's no one's birthday this time, but you can still bring me presents..... but as of now it's June 9th."<< Well June 10th is my birthday, so maybe you can all send me a present before going on the picnic! Sorted, btw don't buy me shoes please I've recently got a new pair :-) Hannah Brown said: >>I had a vision this morning, we should all get together and write a b&s football song. << How about "This is pish, and you know you are"? Or the same song in Thai: "Nee mun pish, ___ ____ ____ ____ _____" (oooon please fill in the gaps). Carsmilesteve mentioned the breakfast club.. I remember watching it on TV whilst a bit drunken once and got a bit miffed that in the film everyone got off with each other, except for the geeky boy who didn't get a bird. Like upholding stereotype or what? (sob). Well at least I know now in real life the geeky actor got some ass. Chris perriman said: >>Peter Miller said When AIDS first started to become popular, people were advised to dribble cognac down their partner's back as a substitute for "penetration" call me unimaginative but 'eh?', how's that work then?<< Surely the more pressing question is: "call me uncool and non-trendy, but when was AIDS a popular disease? Is that why no girls took interest in me?" Gordon said: >>I know, I know; dinosaurs are British, not French and maybe American<< I'm sure dinosaurs are Romans.. haven't they gone extinct before the advent of the British Empire, cos of pollution in the north sea or something, when they tried to drill oil to make plastic, the fools. If memory serves me correctly JenOw said she is going a bit mad.. hmm I think I am too. Bloody exams. Procrastination and Red Bulls Ken ====================================================================== Are you happy with yourself? Are you talking to yourself? Are you happy with yourself? Put the book back on the shelf. - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Wed May 16 14:24:03 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:24:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: brains the size of a pea Message-ID: <20010516132403.12688.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> I decided to hold off posting for a bit until I had a bit more to say than "I've got an Albert Hall ticket! YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!" but nothing happened so I'm telling you anyway. I've got the Friday off and a pre-gig picnic sounds like a good idea but has anyone noticed that the venue is just a fossilised bone's throw away from the absolute ace-est place in London? Of course I'm talking about the Natural History Museum where you can find the reconstructed skeletons of dinosaurs like Tyrannosaurus Rex and The Pink Floyd (which attacked its prey by emitting unbearable guitar solos). And its got great big tropical insects (dead ones) and a place where you can find out how your brain works. So does anyone fancy taking their packed lunches on a Sinister school trip? Bring a pencil and don't forget your permisson slips. 80s brat-pack films: Has no-one mentioned the greatest of them all which was of course Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Anyone... Anyone... That Jonathan David cover photo looks like the awkward early bit in a toga party before everyone gets proper drunk and starts trying to yank each other's sheets off. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Wed May 16 16:33:38 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:33:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Red Message-ID: Ok I am really embarrassed now, I've actually gone red. Katrina told us who the people in the picture are days ago, at the request of my own Dad. Worst thing is I read it all as well. Sorry everyone. I won't be posting again for a while. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed May 16 16:17:45 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 17. mai- gratulaerer til alle i Norge! Message-ID: <20010516151745.14265.qmail@web614.mail.yahoo.com> I think thats how its spelt.... heck of a word to spit out for me actually. Tomorrow is Norwegian Day, 17th May, to celebrate Norwegian indepedance. And I've got a Norwegian exam. But afterward, I shall be getting extremely drunk and cheering, and singing "Ja, vi elsker dette land.. " rather loudly and incoherently with all my other Norwegian pals. And booing anyone who brings a Swedish flag. So, in the spirit of me panicking, and tomorrow being Norwegian day, heres a quick guide for non-Norwegians as to how to do Norwegian. Jeg heter... My name is.... Jeg kommer fra USA/ Skottland/Tyskland/ England I come from USA/Scotland/Germany/England Hva heter du? whats your name? Kan jeg faa din telefonnummer? Can I have your telephone number? Kan jeg faa et ol? can I have a beer? Jeg er glad i deg I fancy you Du har vakre oyene/kroppen/haret You have beautiful eyes/body/hair Skal vi danser? shall we dance? Jeg liker Belle and Sebastian I like Belle And Sebastian Jeg misliker Steps I don't like Steps Steps er dritt Steps are sh*te Jeg er full I'm drunk Hvor er vi? Where are we? Du bor her? You live here? Er dette din seng? Is this your bed? Hvor skal jeg sover? Where shall I sleep? Nei, jeg har ingen penger No, I have no money Ja, vaer sa snill Yes please Det var fantastisk! That was fantastic! Tusen takk! Many thanks! Vi snakkes! Speak to you soon! So there you go. Hope that helps if you ever suddenly find yourself stranded in a kiosk in ooh... Trondheim. Hmm. Trying to forget I have an exam tomorrow. Okay, I'm off to try and forget elsewhere. Hugs & stuff for everyone, and "hurrah!"s to the Norwegians bye. Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From crp28 at xxx.uk Wed May 16 16:27:41 2001 From: crp28 at xxx.uk (Choo-Choo Charlie) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:27:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: second row in the infants Message-ID: So, i've got tickets for Scarborough!!!!! You just ring the box office and a nice lady (formerly the grumpy stressed one, now happy to help) takes down yr details and yr off. We're in the second row - i dreamt all nite last about the gug and bizarrely, it was chris that i spoke to most, with stuart being a bit aloof. Isobel wore a flowery dress and seemed happy. The theatre was full with people waving scarves on the balcony. I do hope that lots of people are coming to Scarb cos the internet says that its capacity is very big and everyone seems to be going to the Albert Hall. Come to Scarborough. It's lovely. The fish and chips will be amazing. It's so amazing tho. I think i'll probably dream of it every nite from now til june 26th. I've been having quite horrific dreams recently actually. Loads of witches. Loads of them. I think it's cos i'm sleepy all the time and worrying about not doing any work ever for my exams. Tho i did conclude that American cultural imperialism doesn't exist apart from building Warner Villages in every town. See, it's capitalism that destroys us in the end, not America, cos capitalism impoverishes us in every way and puts a big theme park where there could be an adventure playground or an agrarian collective. I mean it actually - it's a revolution in the imagination. There might as well be an agrarian collective there for all the good that another Starbux does in its stead. So, that's 41 days to go then..... love charlie s t a y b e a u t i f u l +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Wed May 16 18:11:30 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: You down by the river / London no longer exists. In-Reply-To: <000e01c0dd16$52d9d340$1662253e@itjfvkli> Message-ID: > Foxes don't eat biscuits. They eat chickens. They rip their bastard heads > off and spit feathers all over the tablecloth. This sounds like a fairy tale gone wild. Mr. Miller deserves a grant to further this project - Modern Fairy Tales or Folklore for Adults - or maybe the title was his subject heading. But, no doubt, some halfwitted critic will come along and accuse him of having flat characters, pursuing hackneyed plots, without seeing that the stories are meant to resonate, to bring up old ideas and enrich them. People have no sense of history, no understanding of archetypes and archaisms. What can you do? > often i look at the skyscrapers i can see from my roof or window at > night and i imagine that the erratic patterns made by the lit-up windows > are a kind of message. i see these buildings' illuminations as similar > to the punch cards they used to program computers with ...and if i can > figure it out (the coding) then what would i know? what if its just the > buildings talking to eachother? knowing me i'd probably get in trouble > for figuring it out. i should quit before i catch hell. It was EC. He programmed the flow across the city's power grid to broadcast his song lyrics and guitar tabs. Haven't you noticed a pattern in the songs that you hum in the shower, on the city streets? He's taking over. Can someone do something about this? I think we need to work in some B & S in central Ohio. (Am I in central Ohio? Please don't ask me for directions - I'll take you to another city.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tp218 at xxx.uk Wed May 16 17:54:24 2001 From: tp218 at xxx.uk (tomatron) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:54:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: yes, me, i'm going to scarborough fair... Message-ID: never been to scarborough before. i'm all excited. although it does bear slightly too close a resemblance to the word 'scabrous' for comfort. Hannah Brown wrote: > something about a we should write a b&s football song, can't remember the precise details may i suggest the title 'fold your hands child, you walk like dave beasant'? may i? no? sorry. (especially to the vast swathes of listees who haven't got a clue who the man dave beasant is) i just realised that i now have 1 1/2 weeks to learn my entire final year course. i'm guessing this won't be easy, or they'd just teach it in 1 1/2 weeks, rather than 'a year'. if anybody has a deep knowledge of metaphysics, epistemology, sociology of science and the history of medicine, you're more than welcome to get in touch with me to tell me the answers (or indeed to impersonate me for the duration of my exams). do they have 'answers' these days? i'm not sure they do. i think that might just have been maths and chemistry, anyway. i fondly remember geography, when all you did was colour in maps. oh, and please forgive mr charlie his obsession with agrarian collectives. we watched ken loach's 'land & freedom' last night, it has that sorta effect. give him a few days, he'll be back to advocating what could best be described as artistic kibbutzes founded on a system of communitarian intellectual activity, as is normally his wont. either way, the revolution is important, kids. yours off to join the international brigade, tommi (sheffield wednesday's owl) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed May 16 20:16:05 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:16:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Leicester Picnic Message-ID: <61.e2a85ba.28342bf5@aol.com> Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii you guys First things first: LEICESTER PICNIC ! After going to the York picnic I was all up for another and so I sent a few experimental mails out Well, this has got a fair bit more interest than I was expecting. mmmmmmmmmm, lots of interest but you just make sure you all come. For anyone who has escaped what has now become a mass publicity campaign the gathering will be held in Victoria park, Leicester, more than likely on the 30th (ish) of June , more definate details to come in the next few days... Also i`m no longer unemployed which is good ..and bad. Good because I get paid (weekly!) and bad because I`m going on to the late (4pm-midnight) shift. anyway! Tomorrow is Emma's birthday so I have to rush into Waterstones in town and get her a book, not sure which one , so many to chose from! also Madeleine who sent me an Email, Hi I think I`ve sent my reply to the wrong place(derr) but yes I am interested in the minibus. Mail me back with any info. hey now, hey now, hey now don`t dream its over. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Wed May 16 20:38:41 2001 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (sweetie something) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:38:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And like vultures circling in the sky, I will wait till you are weak and about to die Message-ID: sinister *//why are you so close, closer than most, to my weakness?\\* well quite alot actually firstly and most scary this has nothing to do with me but my friend met this guy from the internet (they had been speaking for months) and they got on very well and one thing led to another led to spending the night together that was about 7 or 8 months ago this morning the police came round to her house asking her about the guy that she had seen all those months ago. asking her all sorts of questions about when they had been together and what they had done. an offer has been made for our house i dont like strangers coming into my home and looking about and when they came to my room i even turned the music down and smiled i didnt say anything though. i watched the little kids look at my rats, and secretely hoped theyd put their fingers too near the cage and get bitten. or at least id get to say that theyd better be careful or theyd get bitten. and they came back a second time and they came into my room again. i sat on my bed cross legged with my note pad, writing. and watched the kids get not too close to my rats again. and this time i didnt turn the music down so much and when the womans dad spoke to me, i didnt hear. so i just didnt say anything. and i had my boa, alcatraz, around my neck. they didnt come right into my room that time. my boyfriend has been and gone oh i got a hello but now he is away again for 3 months this time without even a goodbye. and i dont have his number now not that i think ill ever need it again (even though, officially, we havent split up) i am releived in some ways but mostly sad thinking that thats been almost 10months and to know for a fact if i had decided to take that i dont care option sooner i could have been going out with a much nicer boy but like always. i thought 'no'. and now its too late. but even more sad because,the 10 or so minutes spent alone with him although i only sat at the computer, and he sat on the floor a bit away i think. by the way that i wanted to sit next to him, and wanted to hold his hand and wanted for him to hold me that i still have some feelings for him buts thats maybe just because 10months is a long time and for 8 months i remained monogomous but im not sure how i feel at all i think i might still like him but im not sure. i dont even having the tiniest wee smidgen of a feeling of guilt from cheating at all. and i have as good as announced to the world that i am single but, if he came back right now. oh i dont know. i really dont. those days: 14th, 15th, 16th, and 17th assuming u know what that means of course listening, still sweetie xox ICQ #42242252 MSN instant msngr: something_sinister at hotmail.com AOLim id: IIIsecondcreep *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* everything i do, everything i say, everything i try to be everything is wrong, everything is right, everything is up to me everything i am, everything i was, everything i aim to be everything is black, everything is white, everything is in between +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu May 17 03:50:57 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:50:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chilling so hard my ass almost froze off Message-ID: <000201c0de94$b9cb2c00$6b8501d5@aqlzosqt> 65 LOVE SONGS don't know how many hip hop fans there are here, but that subject line is buck 65, a great canadian export if ever there was one. and rude boys can be twee too, you know - he likes rice cakes. TICKETS PLEASE woke up this morning to the unmistakable sound of 4 tickets for the albert hall dropping through my letterbox. the standing-up-and-dancing-around-like-a-big-jessie ones. HOW HAPPY AM I???? er, quite happy. it's only 10 days after my birthday (23 wasted years...), so if anyone wants to bake me a cake and bring it to the pre-gig picnic, feel free :) LIVE AND LOUCHE launching my summer gig season last night was jim white at the concorde 2 (there is no concorde 1, but no-one else seems to find this odd...), who was Amazing. dark and moving and philosophical and confessional, but a very funny guy. very sweet guy too, missing his family back in florida, y'all. ANT MUSIC does anyone know much about ant, aka anthony harding? someone just gave me his ep 'cures for broken hearts' and i think it's lovely. SLIGHT HITCH on the news they announced that r s narayan had died, but not douglas adams. shame i think. there was a frood who really knew where his towel was. i'm making a mix tape. i'll be back for breakfast. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Wed May 16 22:54:13 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:54:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I went up to the country park... Message-ID: ... I did, on Saturday night, to hang about till after dark, but it was shut. So I went on Sunday instead and just hung around. Though I did see a fox with her cubs, which was neither eating biscuits nor saving rabbits, which was good. Star and Garter I often go to Smile whn I'm home in my native Manchester, though I only ever made it to the first B&S special... maybe one day Cay. Offbeat I am hopefully going to the B&S special at Offbeat to re-live my sheffield.ac.uk student days, am glad it's still going, so keep me posted! Good luck to all those studenty types doing exams too. Norway I was going to say Noweigan, but I cant spell it... Thanks for the phrases, I'll try them out on my Norway-person friend who will be sure to bemused, being not a fan. I still haven't been sent my AH ticket, but I guess they've got my cc number and I've got a booking code, so I'll just have to be patient and stop being paranoid. I wont relax till I've got it in my filthy mits though! Right, maybe see some of you Londony people at Strange Fruit? PeetSketchSteve _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed May 16 23:23:30 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:23:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: If I were bread, would you be my butter? Message-ID: Caution: This post may cause drowsiness. Alcohol will intensify effect. Use care when operating 'heavy machinery'. "Students whose parents had the big bucks to afford it. Holly and Wanda had little bucks." This is an excerpt from Brittany Spears latest work of fiction (fiction referring to writing here - not to her chest size). After reading the stylistically beautiful melodramatic prose which Brittany weaves, with the help of her mommy, I find myself wondering how I could even begin to think of even writing a grocery list out with the knowledge that I shall always be literarily inferior. Somehow, I shall find the inner strength to move forward and write a post to Sinister. As much as I like Sexy Steve's posts, I must say - Enough with the Pynchon talk already!! It only makes me feel guiltier about that copy of GR sitting in the back window of my car. (I didn't want it to get lonely so I got the Gravity's Rainbow Reader's Companion to accompany it. Now they can be unread together. See, I'm nice to my books.) We could talk of Proust since I've made it halfway through Remembrance of Things Past. I once heard the pinefox proclaim that he wished he could cuddled up with a volume of Proust's work, sipping a cup of tea, and having a madeline or two..... right in front of a fire - so he would have something to throw the book into. Tsk, tsk. Not to like such a work! (I *adore* the first part of Swann's Way.) Mr. Fox, should I send you the new graphic novel of this classic which just came out? Calm down! When I say *graphic* I mean as in comics. Maybe you'd like it better if there were lots of purty pictures. You can't blame the pinefox if he's drawn to the visual. I heard that PF likes to fancy himself as the next Chi-Chi Rodriguez so he can go around simpering and saucily saying, "Why I got more legs than a bucket of chicken!" I fully approve. I think PF looks much better in short frilly skirts than he would in Trousers. ***STORYTIME*** Now, Miss Laura Llew is going to tell you about her dream from the other night! Doesn't it involve Belle and Sebastian, the Sinister list, or anyone you care about? Not a chance! Are you still excited? You should be! I had been on one of those "reality" TV shows like they have on MTV which is odd since nothing on that channel is real. (Please refer to previous allusion about Broccoli Spear's chest). The show I had been on had already finished and I was at a reunion special where all the cast members were sitting around in a circle talking about how life had changed since the show. One of the males was saying how disappointed he was to discover all the girls he had sex with during that season who he thought were beautiful were really Joyce Carol Oates ugly once he was sober enough to see straight. I replied with, "If you think that's bad, all the girls I slept with were so ugly that when I woke up the next morning they were males." Well, at least none of them looked like anyone on the front of the new single cover. Scary! (Notice the sly attempt to try and fake like this is content. Go Laura Go!) Today I discovered that the site of last year's Southern picnic, Big Witch Gap, wasn't named for a witch but after Tskilegwa who was the last of the Cherokee Eagle Killers. (They consider Eagles sacred and their feathers are used for various festivals and dances so only someone proscribed in the methods and procedures was allowed to kill the eagle.) After consulting with my multiple personalities, it was decided that this year's picnic would take place at the same spot and whenever I find my copy of B&S's last album with a recording of their performance at the Bowlie on the other side. Featured author has not yet been decided. I'm glad I don't live in London where I would have to pretend that I like picnics with lots of attendees. I'm glad I don't live near large phallic symbols in New York's Central Park which annually draws hordes of Sinisterines each year. I can sit here in Western Carolina, pouting, and pretending that I feel as if I were missing out just because I can't go to any B&S concerts in Scotland. It must be awfully hard to have to shout with glee at every opportunity, "I have tickets to see Belle and Sebastian!" Does your throat get sore? Do your fingers tire typing it? I know that b&s could never sound better than when I listen to them in my bed. If I ever decide to 'field test' this theory, I'll let y'all know. Laura 'meeting all dem der Laura Llew needs since 1977' A rough translation of "Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa" in Southern is: This ratcheer sho sounds like a sorry Leonard Skynrd cover so I reckon I'll be a gittin gone. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Thu May 17 01:06:46 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:06:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: On my arms there's freckles and scars Message-ID: Do you know what they are? Do you know where they came from? I've been wondering because no one will tell me... Oh, so much to catch up on... John Hughes: If Silent Bob likes him, I suppose I could give those rite du passage flicks a shot. Zang. Norwegian: Norwegian = Cool I love languages and chase after new ones whenever I can. I went after russian just now, but oh is it ever hard. My friend Lina taught me how to say "kiss my ass" in Russian, but all I can remember is the word for ass. Phooey. I'm making a program in computer lab to teach all those who care in my school (i.e. me, only me) how to say some basic welsh phrases. All this talk of thai and norwegian has got me all excited. Flowering Cherries: I noticed today that mine has nearly flowered its last for the season. It was never windy enough to stand beneath in and have it rain on me. Phooey, part deux. Those of you who get to see B&S: I hate you. I hate you like the mormons hate the polygamists who still give them a bad name. (This is ofcourse not true. I love you all. Equally. Like children!) Un-B&S dreams that still merit a story time: I was pregnant and moving into an appartment. For some reason I got shot at my housewarming party. My friends rushed me to the hospital and I got operated on and delivered the baby in a huge room where everything was white and there were loads of people in white milling about. There were simply enormous windows going up higher than you could see, so everthing was light. It didn't bother me at the time, but the more I think about it, the more it give me the willies. Here's a backwoods New England version (as I have heard it said) of "Nee, nee...) "Wahl, there doe'nt seem to much goin on harrr, ah suppose we could be heading back now." It's boring I know, but I think that's the point. Love, jam, jelly, and marmalade, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Thu May 17 04:37:54 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 04:37:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stone the crows, it's the dawn! Message-ID: <00bf01c0de82$ff838ce0$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk> So much time has gone by since I last wrote anything to all of you 1400 souls scattered around the world like daisies on a hillside (flattery seems like a good way to begin things), that I do so now labouring under a chronic case of trepidation. Perhaps everything I will write from this point on will be gibberish. In a way, that would be something of a relief. But it isn't to be. Being non-sensical has always struck me as an affectation. I often wonder about the bums I've seen on the streets who talk to invisible friends and enemies. Do they really see somebody there? I have a suspicion that they don't. Perhaps they are all unconsciously conforming to the accepted stereotype of what a loony should be like. I suspect that real loonies don't stand on street corners raving to invisible thieves and demanding the return of their shoes, but sit placidly, in nice, conservative clothes, in nice, conservative homes, brooding. That said, I did once sit next to man on the tube (between Hendon Central and Brent Cross, in case, by some wild chance, somebody was interested in that detail) who was about seven feet tall - I only exagerrate slightly, so I hope I'll be forgiven -, muttering dark words about rape and murder. He was gaunt and would fix me with a bulging eyed stare before snarling to nobody in particular that he wanted blood. He had a crumpled shopping bag, and he kept removing videos, one after the other, all gruesome horror films. I got off at the next stop terrified, and hid behind the staircase until the train had pulled out. That anecdote dispensed with, I would like to pose a question: am I the only person in the world who doesn't like The Kings of Convenience? Their songs all remind me of the Trumpton theme, but without any of the pleasant associations. Today I alphabetised my CD collection. Does that bring me closer to godliness, or mean that I should do more hard drugs? Probably neither. Godliness and drugs are a bore, and closer in relation that one might at first suspect. Thankfully, there are other options. It need hardly be mentioned that I am excited about the prospect of seeing Belle and Sebastian at the Royal Albert Hall, although I am slightly sad that finances do not afford me the pleasure of harassing old women in provincial ticket offices. I wonder if she'll go and see them too? Or whether the couple from the Oxo adverts will be there, rekindling old romantic memories? they probably have a lot of free time since they stopped selling gravy. This is all becoming very low brow, isn't it? Next I'll be writing about Hello magazine before, perhaps, going out and clubbing a woman over the head in order to drag her back into my cave and showing her the hot red things I've managed to make come out of pieces of wood. Then it will just be dribbling and mushy peas for me. I'm sorry, this is awful. It can't all end this way, can it? With Oxo and Trumpton and Hello magazine? No, let there be a glimpse of salvation at the end of this length word-tunnel. Let forgiveness come to woeful metaphors. Let the sun shine on the heads of the loving, and let the loveless remember the sunshine even in times of rain. Let there be light. Let there be life. Let there be sweet dreams. Let me not mention the Eurythmics. Goodnight. Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Thu May 17 05:28:46 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:28:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: more delaware picnic info, among other things Message-ID: <20010517042846.56512.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister. anyone else on vacation from school? I slept from 1am to 2:30 pm today, and I only woke up then because my brother had come home from school. god, I love being a bum. oh yeah, and idleberry said this: "ood luck to everyone else doing some sort of exams now. My thoughts would be with you if I wasn't feeling particularly selfish and trying to keep them aligned to myself at the moment." because I'm all done with school for another semester, I'll say good luck for everyone. time to gloat: I got straight A-s. I think london was good for me. is that the first time someone's ever said that? someone mentioned weezer a while back (sorry, can't remember who, and can't be arsed to look through the digest) but their new album is ACE. not as good as pinkerton, but cuomo is still obsessed with girls, which is a Good Thing. someone's got to be, after all. yeah, so picnic details: well, I got some (5) responses, and am hanging on for more, so (tentatively) the picnic will take place at rockford park, wilmington, delaware on (looks at calendar)... june 2. I'll send more detailed information in a week or so. it won't be able to compete with the gigantic love-fest that was the london picnic (two words: public orgy.) but we'll try mightily. being facetious since 1980. -eric xx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Thu May 17 11:48:19 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: crack,sun,sand and dave beasant.... Message-ID: <20010517104819.71350.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> hey there... hmmmmm..i may as well get it over with... yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssyayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayaayayayyaayyayayayaayyaayyayayaayayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahem...its just i'm going to see my favourite band in a few weeks and i'm quite excited...i dont think you lot would like them very much to be honest...and its by the seaside!...the original plan was the albert hall but i was a lazy tyke and didnt bother ringing up until yesterday..thus they only had poo seats left....but i think Bournemouth in the July sunshine will be even better...sea,sand and a summer wasting awaits..... ...speaking of gigs...my band banished some demons on Sunday and played a notsobad gig at a rather swanky establishment...compared to the horrificness (is that a word?) of last time it was a bit of a triumph...maybe we'll play the royal albert hall someday...or perhaps not... ...somebody keeps mailing me adverts for anti-obesity drugs...this is highly unfair..i need obesity drugs......robert brennan said: "Has no-one mentioned the greatest of them all which was of course Ferris Buellers Day Off?" ..it is indeed the king of eighties brat pack/high school movies..the breakfast club is okay but all the actors still have that punchability factor while matthew broderick and the other two who werent matthew broderick are all effortlessly charming...and ed rooney remains a supreme creation...it also has a fantastical soundtrack..especially the cover of 'please please please let me get what i want'....Ruvi Simmons wrote: "today i alphabetised my cd collection. Does that bring me closer to Godliness or mean that i should do more hard drugs?" ..almost certainly closer to Godliness..only the truly blessed (and the truly anal) alphabetise their record collections...of course the snag is that if youre a messy swine like me then you just dont bother to put anything back and leave cd's and vinyl strew across the floor rendering the whole process a waste of bleddin time...who needs crack anyway? ..tomatron suggested 'fold your hands child you walk like dave beasant' as a b+s football song...thank you..you made me laugh so much i spat tea all over my trousers... ..heres a british west-country version : this is fuckin bore-lerks mate? i'm gonna goo nooow? ...it is essential to say every sentence as if its a question? if you live in swindon? although this is proabably true of a lot of places?...well...i'd better go and pretend to revise?..... ta ta? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu May 17 12:05:54 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:05:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shoes Message-ID: <3B03BEA1.20775.23E5CCB6@localhost> Hello, my name's Robin Stout Sarah: "Robin, are you a weatherman yet?". No, not yet, I'm going to TV Centre on Wednesday for a Popstars-style audition. I'll tell you what happens then. It will probably be a tale of humiliation and woe, tragedy and romance, rain and sunny spells, warming up later. I've gone rather overboard and bought four tickets for the Royal Albert Hall. The woman on the phone said they were "at the back". I hope this doesn't mean behind Big Stu. There should be an option on the website for "Not behind Big Stu", so if you end up watching the concert around Stu's ears you get a reduction. Or they could give you big shoes, like in a bowling alley, Big Stu Shoes, so you can see over his head. A friend of mine bet 2 pounds on Liverpool winning the treble and won 104 pounds. I bet 50p on France winning Eurovision and won nothing. Where's the justice in the world? Like Jesus, I think the best way to understand life's problems is to tell stories. Here's a little parable, based on a real life event, called Robin and the Egg. Maybe it can help cast light into our dark and meaningless lives. Or maybe it's just rubbish. Robin and the Egg Yesterday I bought an egg. Just the one, for a meal I was cooking. I bought it from the shop on the corner, where the people are all miserable, and it cost me 25p. I carried it home, cradling it in my hands. I skillfully dodged the six delinquent kids from two houses down who were riding their bikes on the pavement. I deftly tiptoed past a man in a puffa jacket who was strutting down the street with his elbows out. When I was back, I slid through the door, and gently placed the egg on the kitchen table. Then I went to get a bowl, and I turned, and the egg rolled slowly from the counter and fell on the floor. I tried to catch it, but I was never any good at cricket. All I had left was bits of eggshell, and a mess on the floor. A moral lesson for us all, I think, um, put eggs in eggcups, or something. Robin. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Thu May 17 13:01:55 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:01:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fw: Great Western Website Feedback Message-ID: <001d01c0dec9$2b37e4d0$32c913ac@bathspa.ac.uk> Check the name on here... coincidence? Oh, and I'm sorry for waiting list time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Customer Relations" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Great Western Website Feedback > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > I have contacted our Marketing Department asking if they can either e-mail > it direct to you, or e-mail it to me and I will forward it to you. > > Yours sincerely > > Laura Lea > Customer Relations > > > > > Web User > .xara.net> cc: > Subject: Great Western Website Feedback > 15/05/01 20:26 > Please respond to > p.carter > > > > > > The results of your mail feedback script, at Tue May 15 19:26:11 2001 now > follow - > > Name: Peter Carter > E-Mail Address: p.carter at bathspa.ac.uk > User Message: Would it be possible to get hold of a high quality copy of > the First Great Western safety instruction? Preferably in > high quality, printable format. > > > Diagnostics (for reference only): > > send: send > > referer: http://www.great-western-trains.co.uk/cgi-bin/mail_feedback.cgi > remote_host: 194.81.80.52 > user_agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT) > > > Copyright (C) 1999 Netsitepro > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is confidential. It may not be disclosed to, or used by, > anyone other than the addressee. If you receive this message in > error, please advise us immediately. > > Internet email are not necessarily secure. FirstGroup does not accept > responsibility for changes to any email which occur after the email > has been sent. Attachments to this email could contain software viruses > which could damage your system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu May 17 13:06:18 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:06:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Travel details for Dunoon Gig Message-ID: <00b501c0deca$0a787380$6fccfc3e@neil> hello, The promoter has organised a travel package for those with tickets to the Dunoon gig on Saturday 9th June. Travel is from Glasgow only and the details are as follows: Buses will be leaving from outside King Tut's Wah Wah Hut - 272a St Vincent Street, G2 - at 5.30pm SHARP and travel to Dunoon Queens Hall via Western Ferries. They will return from outside the venue after the gig (approx. 10.30pm) and travel back to King Tut's via Western Ferries to arrive around 12.30-1.00am. A return travel ticket costs £12 (including all ferry fares but NOT tickets to the show) and are on sale now. To guarantee a place on the bus, please buy your ticket in advance from either the Virgin Megastore in Glasgow - tel: 0141 332 4400, the 24 hour credit card hotline 0141 339 8383 or online at www.gigsinscotland.com cheers, katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Thu May 17 13:36:38 2001 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:36:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oh, where have the puppies gone? Message-ID: first off, hello and apologies to evie...i did try and meet you but there were just too many fags about. i'm glad that you got to meet the kado boy, he's far cuter than i. i looked up that new single cover thingy...it has scared me. but it's nice to see that gillian from new order is keeping her self active. we have been addicted to a new website at work of an up and coming scratch artist. go to www.supergreg.com. those afraid of uni-brows beware. i was also fluttering around the burt is evil page and it has scared me. burt and ernie are clean and chaste little puppets that just happen to sleep in the same room, much like noddy and big ears. seeing burt sooperimposed on a picture of hitler, is well, disturbing. a friend of mine is coming to visit from england...and i'm not excited. i feel bad cuz we parted on bad terms and i thought that maybe 5 months would heal all...it hasn't. i feel bad. maybe i'll just avoid him. (yeah, that's healthy) hmmm...rem are playing a free concert at lunchtime today...i'm trying to figure out how to skip off work for a coupla hours to go see them. it's basically around the corner from where i live, but i don't work in the city and therein lies the problem...my plan is to get the delivery guy to deliver me downtown for a coupla hours and then to deliver me back to work...i'm such a cheap bastard though, i should just take the afternoon off. i've started writing again which has made me happy but i have great difficulty holding a pen for hours on end...so bf is trying to be helpful and bought me some aspirin, complete with child proof lid. wish his brain was in the same place his heart is...heehee. found out that if you bang the lid enuf times on yer desk at work the lid will pop off. i'm in a bit of a tiff with the lazy twat bastard that i work with so all noise is good noise, especially my country music as he describes it. i hate to use nick drake as a weapon of torture but it was needed. i'm moving on to will oldham and diamanda galas soon. i hope you all enjoy the upcoming concerts and picernics and such. some of us will be living vicariously through you... right, lazy twat walmart jewelery wearing smelly twat bastard has left and it's time for some calming lucksmiths. love you all sweeties... a. The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories." -Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Thu May 17 22:08:11 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:08:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Carters World Message-ID: <3B043DBB.2BBD@camb.linst.ac.uk> If that previous messege was you shying away from real discussion then god help us all. This idea of mediocrity =popularity is interesting. i kind of agree. i remember at college it was alway the dull fuckers who were the most popular, but then its usually the freaks and geeks that go down in history. im a bit dubious about how you draw up your mediocrity table though. how do you do it? the idea that taste is limited to food only is daft.Kings of Conv', to be honest, is incredebly (sp?) "mediocra", its easy to listen to and isnt really ground breaking, but the fact is that it is fab to listen to and warms you up inside. suggesting that 1984 "follows the surface rules" is laughable(even though i havent read it yet, shhhh). i find it hard to argue with messeges cause i take things the wrong way, i need tone of voice to help me through so if if ive contradicted myself or anything just ignore it. im djing tonight and im scared. love hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Thu May 17 15:12:58 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:12:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Carters World References: <3B043DBB.2BBD@camb.linst.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00bc01c0dedb$79e32fb0$32c913ac@bathspa.ac.uk> > im a bit dubious about how you draw up your mediocrity table though. how > do you do it? the idea that taste is limited to food only is daft.Kings > of Conv', to be honest, is incredebly (sp?) "mediocra", its easy to > listen to and isnt really ground breaking, but the fact is that it is > fab to listen to and warms you up inside. I find some of the new Kings album dull, and some brilliant. And I'd argue that in a lot of ways it is ground breaking. Some of the lyrics are particularly interesting and I'm not sure I've heard anything strikingly similar, at least not in the way Limp et al rip each other off. Anyway the medicocrity = popularity thing only really works one way. Popular stuff is 90% mediocre, mediocre stuff is NOT 90% popular. I cite every pub gig I've ever been to as evidence for that. To be honest, if it was truely mediocre I doubt you, or many other people on this list, would listen to it. Just because it's simple acousticy songs doesn't make it mediocre. > suggesting that 1984 "follows > the surface rules" is laughable(even though i havent read it yet, > shhhh). Erm... it has a standard sci-fi type plot that involves people pushing against the system, has a love interest, has a hero and an enemy and is written in standard third person prose. Ok, so the sci-fi thing wasn't following the surface rules then... but it wasn't very popular when it came out. It's the subtexts that are really interesting, and, although those are about as strong as they could be, people still miss them and read the story for surface meaning. I'll never forget someone in my A-level Theatre Studies class saying "I don't like it, it's boring and Winston is really wet, why didn't he just do something about it instead of sitting back and letting it happen? I gave up after the first 30 pages." Apparently this girl is now into GYBE! which I find a little confusing... though I imagine she's just being pretentious, she always was one for using big words where they didn't belong. Oh, and I'd also like to apologise to the list for the last mail, I'm unsure as to why I sent it and it really doesn't have much of a point. Ho hum... I'll think more before I post in future. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu May 17 16:23:54 2001 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:23:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Surprise,surprise! Message-ID: Hello all: My alarm clock was not set up, there was a pile of equations to plough through in the traditional manner i.e. pen and paper and racking my brains, so I thought : 'Let's boldly go and work from home, as humans are doing in the noughties thanks to all the technological advances available'. Albeit the most advanced technological gadget around is my pretty basic hifi. A transistor radio would have been enough, as any former supporter of Graham Coxon's cause should know,modern life is rubbish: About 1.30 pm, after enduring JLo, the unbearable vintage jokes of that subhuman species hired as DJ's in Radio1-daytime slots, smile briefly with 'Hey Boy Hey Girl', ... JONATHAN DAVID just popped into my bedroom. And I loved it. Stevie, all is forgiven after that sunrise crime.Not a continuation of 'I fought in a war' as one could gather from that bludgeoned biblical reference, though some love triangle seemed to bloom in the lyrics, very David. It will be single of the week next week or something, because Nick Cave is now, that is what the Radio 1 apemen said (?). Alaves David could not crown it and knock down Liverpool, rubbish too. My weekly TV dose included not only the match but 'Faking it-From West Yorkshire chippie girl to society IT lady', so I have acquired a taste for overuse 'rubbish' because I have learnt one word I can pronounce posh! Mmm.A message with some content in just 15 minutes. Popper could prove that content is probably rubbish because the law of content has no content, however. x Arantxa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Thu May 17 16:22:12 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:22:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Sound Of The Polaroid Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF7320E9@GB047XS> Dear Sinister, have decent Albert Hall tickets gone *already*? I haven't got mine. I admit, the thought of sitting behind a pillar/Big Stu a few miles away from the stage after paying a BILLION SQUID for the ticket doesn't seem that great a thought, especially when you consider you could be in a public house drinking ALE for 100% less of the ticket fee... however! I am sure with the time honoured tactic of wrapping a vodka bottle in a condom, swallowing it and carrying it "mule like" through the ticket office would again be a valid solution! I've been reading a book about smuggling Cocaine, (the Spanish for Cocaine is Cocaina, but they say it all funny, co-kaii-EEEEEE-narrr, its ACE, I like Spanish), and it doesn't recommend doing that, it says that often you get caught, and that you can't deny anything if you have a condom full of drugs in your belly. Actually, thats a good point, if they scanned me on the way in, I couldn't exactly say that it was just in the middle of a packet of jelly babies and I didn't notice. > I find some of the new Kings album dull, and some brilliant. > And I'd argue > that in a lot of ways it is ground breaking. Who would have thought that Mr. Carter and I would agree? Just the other day I attached a Kings of Convienience album to a pneumatic drill, and terrorised the streets of the Brixton with it. When I dropped it, I drilled a hole right through to the centre of the earth, and scared a few dwarfs down there, who were playing Magic Cards! A ground breaking album indeed, ho ho ho! I've never heard it properly myself, but from what I heard I quite liked. I am FED UP of *quite* liking things! I'll settle for *really loving* the Aislers Set, INVASION OF THE GABBA MEN, Low and the inbuilt songs on VIB RIBBON for the PlayStation. The book was called Snowblind, and it was by Robert Saggard. Possibly. His last name may be wrong. And also his first name. When was the last time you were asked if you were a member of a religion other to your own? Mine was yesterday. It was cool! Yay, 40 minutes till I can go home and play my BASS. Bass is the best instrument of any. Sarah xxx Old Skool Polaroids are great. Click! WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Thu May 17 20:38:16 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: You still believe in me. Message-ID: <382178234.990128296014.JavaMail.root@web569-mc> Bon dia, Robin said: >I bet 50p on France winning Eurovision and won >nothing. Where's the justice in the world? There is no justice I agree. However I am pleased to see someone's believing in France. You should have done like me: I bet with an English person that France would kick England's bottom, and guess what? I won. Oh the delights of victory. Talking of victory I went to watch the football match at some boys place yesterday. Oh well what a fantastic experience it was. I was not allowed to cheer for Alaves for some obvious reasons, but then even if I had my voice would have been covered by the screams of lots of boys going crazy (I wont give any name). Anyway, all ended up in joy as Liverpool won, and I just sat there being once more amazed about football: it is a bit like I dont get how planes can fly, I dont get how people get mad about a ball and 22 people running behind it. Larry is a star and he is getting even more emails than I do these days. Sometimes I feel like he is becoming too independent: he does things on his own, sends emails to people I don't know, etc. But well after all we are only flatmates so he can do what he wants to. Last week end was officially the first frisbee-and-picnic week end in Greenwich park, and it was fantastic. Well apart from the fact that 'Orrible Martin threw my frisbee in the tree and even with lots of efforts we couldn't get it down (and we tried hard I swear). How sad I was, it was a solar disc at the official size, mind you. The wise Peter Miller said: >Before the advent of Larry the Frog, Elenita99's best friend >was a mobile >phone with an endless stream of French loonies on the other end. Then the non less wise Pinefox said: >Well, now her best friend is a mobile Canadian with a >string of English loonies on his end. I do not know any Canadian, well I know one but he lives in America. My best friend is Larry. I gave up being friends with mobiles phones: I lose then too often and it breaks my heart each time. And being heartbroken is no fun, I can tell. I am off to eat cheese. You should do so as well. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu May 17 21:04:36 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You Were Alaves On My Mind Message-ID: <20010517200436.3053.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com> Our time is so short. There are only 3 minutes to go. Oh, I say!! Congratulations to my editor. This is not the Liverpool of old - that's why it made me happy. It's the Liverpool of new. It's the Liverpool of the papercuts years, I suppose. And we know they'll 'never amount to anything'. So, do something happy while you can. Personally, I was delighted. Someone told me that John Prescott would become more popular for throwing that left hook. I doubt it. Is he left-handed? That's a question. As for llll llll - yes, you're right. I forgot. I did say that to you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Thu May 17 22:25:39 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:25:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: automatic push button remote control/ synthetic/ genetic/ command your soul Message-ID: just heard JONATHON DAVID on the sesh! it starts off ok-ish and i thought oh, well, not as good as legal man, but then the chorus hit and stuart started singing and i just went wow and it got bigger and better untill there was a bit with stevie, stuart and either isobel and/or sarah singing as well ad it was triumphantly FAB!!! i'm impressed but why's the 7 inch version got only 2 songs on it, i'll have to buy the 12" aswell 'coz 45s are just the coolest things on earth. steve lamacq has a good story about this: two scientists were trying to find if certain shapes had deep rooted meaning in the human brain. to test this they had a monkey to whom they gave random objects and recorded it's reaction. they gave the monkey a CD, it chewed it a bit and then threw it on the floor. the scientists then handed it a 7 inch record. the monkey got a hard on. i don't think this story's true but it illustrates a point (but hopefully does'nt Sillistrate it, that would be most disturbing) i was cleaning out my cupboards and found amongst my stack of NMEs and select magazines (stretching back to '95 mind you, i hate to throw out magazines coz things like this happen) anyway, i found in the jan '97 select a review of 'IYFS'(4/5) alongside arab strap's 'the week never starts round here' (also 4/5) and an interview with stuart murdoch! so here it is --------------------------------------- "I do sing in a church choir" belle and sebastian frontman stuart murdockh on christian rock, long-distance running and breast-feeding album sleeves your previous LP, 'tigermilk', has a sleeve depicting a woman breast-feeding a cuddly tiger toy. did it cause controversy and outrage? "no, i was a bit dissapointed by the lack of reaction. i work as a caretaker at a church, and i thought the people there would see it and it might cause a little bit of fuss. but no, sadly, there hasn't been any. the model on the sleeve is a friend of mine - and tigger of course. the new album sleeve has another friend - with more clothes on this time" what inspires you regarding belle and sebastian? "well my ispiration for writing wouldn't be bands. it's more just boredom, depression and the weather. ans the films of Hal Hartley*. musically, the one person who has it for me at the moment is [tindersticks frontman] stuart staples. songs like 'city sickness' made it clear he had his vision set out from the start - you have to bow to the superior power of the 'sticks. my favourite books are probably by CS Lewis - the screwtape letter and surprised by joy" do these works of christian exposition from the man from narnia indicate any particular religious belief? "i'm not a particular follower of any religious denomination, but i do sing in a church choir. yeah, we'd be quite happy to be called christian rock - why not? the band does tend to play quite a few shows in church halls. at the start we made a habit of playing church halls and cafes, because of the acoustics." does your song 'the stars of track and field' stem from an athletic inclination? "well, i was a runner in my youth. i ran marathons and ran for glasgow uni. it's a bit of nostalgia really, because i did used to go at the running quite madly. i found it quite hedonistic in a way..." did you take your name straight from the belle and sebastian TV programme? "kind of - i have a very vague memory of the TV show. the name arose when i was writing a short story and the main character was called sebastian. then i wanted to have a female character, so i called her belle. yeah, i do still write a bit - it's nice to put a wee bit of writing on the back of the record. the first one had a story and this one has a kind of introduction to the band." RW --------------------------------------- * isn't hal hartley who B&S have recorded the soundtrack for? wow, two bits of content in one post, i think that makes up for all the ones i have sent with sod all. see you in scarboria pez* P.S. Karren, if you are reading this, sorry you haven't got the tape yet, that's coz i haven't sent it. i have made it though, honest; just my compooter died and i could'nt get your address from it. but i have it now and it'll be on it's way :) www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Thu May 17 23:57:43 2001 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you don't have to spend, you just have to pretend In-Reply-To: <00be01c09c48$bda10a40$3602a7d1@yesic.com> Message-ID: <20010517225743.98445.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> sinister! why are good shoes so hard to find? does a search for good shoes justify a trip to japan? does it justify certain resultant poverty? i have a feeling i've talked about this before. but themes come around and around. also! i know a guy here in vancouver who looks *exactly* like the long-haired guy on the front of the new ep! except that he usually wears metal t-shirts and a mesh ballcap. so to see this was shocking. and then i saw him on the street yesterday, but he was too far away for me to flag him down and tell him about it/inquire about his true identity. reading ruvi's post, i'm reminded of wondering whether i'm going low brow lately. whether it's permanent or not, well, i mean, at least i'm reading theory. but what does that count for really, when i'm also watching wrestling twice a week (haven't gone so far as pay-per-view yet. yet.), reading things like 'the beach' and going to cheap night at the movies and thoroughly enjoying 'the mummy 2'. yes, i've heard there's a fine line between clever and stupid and that there's this thing called irony, but i don't know, i'd rather not think about it and enjoy things. (but sometimes it catches me by surprise and i end up thinking about these things. agh. but it's also interesting b/c mick foley's biography also makes me think about these things. it's some good stuff.) i'm reminded also by steven kado's latest astounding post, of another post of his. maybe i'm looking at this through rose-coloured glasses, but remember s.kado's POWER MUSIC ELECTRIC REVIVAL! post was the stuff of genius. it made me want to read books that make my arms cramp up from holding them in scholarly ways. but he wrote that a long time ago now... yaaay archives! speaking of archives, cheese really does bring people together doesn't it? search "cheese" in the archives - so much proof. yes, belle and sebastian may have brought us together, but cheese is what keeps us going. also a while ago, marybeth said 'euchre', which is an addictive game that goes well with beer and other things. i never actually tried to spell it though, as i was taught by friends and not books, which makes me think of oral history and how spelling is perhaps fairly arbitrary and subjective. and therefore a bit of a joke on those who get left out of the spelling process (yes, you can see samuel johnson holding his belly and laughing, can you not?) i would probably spell euchre 'yuker' b/c phonetics is so fun. (or ph...nevermind.) pardon my logic james thornely said of drugs that they shouldn't be done. and then he said he smokes cigarettes. um... (and this is certainly not personal to james, do not take it that way, please) 'doing drugs' emcompases quite a lot, from the casual muncher of mushrooms to the eighth-a-day pot smoker to the shooting-up-in-a-downtown-alleyway heroin addict. the only reason it doesn't 'officially' include smoking is b/c smoking is legal and makes so many people so much money (i'm not forgetting perscription drugs - it's just all so much.) yes, so even though that 'don't do drugs' ad with the looper song has the looper song, it still has a far too general 'don't do drugs' message which is still just as vague/laughable as the 'don't do drugs' campaigns of the past four decades. to be blunt, not sharp, i'd rather have a few acid flashbacks in my 50s than a chest full of cancer. to be sharp, neither of these is, of course, guaranteed to happen. something about excess and abuse/addiction being my eventual point here, probably. ie., addiction bad, drugs not necessarily so bad (this would be the 'people kill people' arguement.) ie., why deal with the drug when you should be dealing with the 'why' of it all, ie., can, worms, instigator, aaaah! how crappy was '13 days'? i saw it on the plane and wanted to leave. only highlight being the (slight) irony of canadian bruce greenwood playing jfk. which wore off so quickly. i'm all about entertainment these days, like actually being entertained. which is probably making me less entertaining... er. anyway, ruvi reminded me that i don't find kings of convenience entertaining either. but perhaps it's just the mood i've been in for the past few months. i have no idea. i just wanted to say hello. and layeth the smacketh down! robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Fri May 18 09:21:03 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:21:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peelie's finest Message-ID: Well. By a wicked dash of ill fate my sister phoned during Steve LeCrap's Evil Session so I missed the title track, but GOD BLESS JOHN PEEL for playing 'Take your carriage clock and shove it' during his glorious show. It is beautiful, although there are hints of at leat 8 other (non b&s) tunes in there somewhere. Still, it's the sweetest wickedness, with what sounded like much swearing (wank, fuck etc). All good. Peelie will also have a b&s session sometime in the first two weeks of June. S'there. Sometimes I feel sick with excitement about the gigs, then I realise I'm probably just drunk again. Hi to the mini-sters, Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri May 18 11:23:15 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:23:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: those pylons frame the light, see Message-ID: <3B04F812.2BB9C318@netscapeonline.co.uk> Well, a guy my own age at work told me to go home yesterday, and so here I am. Attempting to do something pretty whilst I could, I talked for three hours with him about the project, then drew a couple of sketches of the barmaid before the proprietor threw me out, fell asleep somewhere posh then got home and burst into tears, inconsoleable and uncontroleable. Perhaps I should visit the Saracen's Head after all. I talked with some steelworkers, too, who were on a trip up from Sunderland. One thinks that, at the end of the day, there will be something useful in all of this. I mean I'm patient: I choose life, etc., but the world is so annoyingly intolerant of my desires of domination over my own wee patch of it. I suppose I make the mistake of countering trivialities with a grate! big drama but it just amazes me how people can so quietly and sophisticatedly buckle down to this utterly absurd scenario of 'the way things are today'. To think that I worked *so hard* and so well on that job: gave it everything I have, for me to be told to go home on a technicality of breath. Alcohol, see, and I'm not sacked either: I'm welcome back today or Monday but I'm telling you all this I'm telling you all this because I want to demonstrate that a confident, showy bright guy who 'should know better' knows more than that and yet can still be reduced to a pathetic shrivel not in himself but for others simply dismissing. 'Your way of working is not our way of working.' Well what the hell is that? 'You might fantasise about the situation in Barcelona, but' I fantasise about everyone whose been looking at athena posters when there's an olive grove around, or even some haystacks. I'm not really making great claims for myself: I really just want to be left alone. What I really, really want, is to meet another person who is of the same sort as I am: not a nurse or a mother figure: not a sister or a brother: not a girl or a guy: just another person like me. I can't send this to the sinister mailing list, of course. It's indulgently personal, inappropriate and rather scary. So I won't or, will it connect somehow? The stock response to a declaration such as this is, I suppose, 'what do you want out of this? what are you getting at?' to which the answer is 'it's an irrelevant question'. That new B&S cover is wild. Very nouveux-old. As usual with their stuff it's full of rib-prodding.. religion? bah! I'll give you a tickle... Cleopatra? anyone? anyone? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri May 18 11:54:12 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:54:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Two little boys Message-ID: <3B050D64.4877.2E5BFD16@localhost> Mmmm! I heard both Jonathan David and Take Your Carriage Clock last night too. They're both good, I think I'll like this e.p. a lot, and like the Hodottir just said, teriffic swearing from the boy Murdoch. Stevie sings like he's working down the Chinese laundry. Am I right that he sings about a wooden horse, and is this a Rolf Harris reference? I hope so. Also, Peel said that the four songs that B+S recorded for their session are all-new tracks that won't be on the e.p.s. Maybe they're from the soundtrack. I'm very excited Robinx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri May 18 12:15:30 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:15:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A real pillar of society... Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027754F0@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Robin said: >Hello, my name's Robin Stout So that's that one cleared up then. But then continued: > There should be an option on the website for "Not behind Big Stu", so if you end up watching the concert around Stu's ears you get a reduction. Especially for you, Robin, I'll cut my ears off before I go to the concerts, so you won't have to look round them. I wouldn't want to be selfish. Meanwhile, elsewhere in this fine city, Arantxa opined: >About 1.30 pm, after enduring JLo, the unbearable vintage jokes of that subhuman species hired as DJ's in Radio1-daytime slots... [Johnathan David] will be single of the week next week or something, because Nick Cave is now, that is what the Radio 1 apemen said (?). Now, this is approaching sacrilige (you see, I'm so shocked I can't even spell any more). Mark and Lard are gods; because as well as being the only show on any radio station at the moment who play decent music amongst all the crap, they are solely responsible for Belle and Sebastian; if they hadn't played Tigermilk on their old late-night show, no-one would ever have heard of the band, and chances are they wouldn't even exist any more. Their taste in music generally makes John Peel sound distinctly second rate. However, against my better instincts, I found myself listening to Peel's show last night, to be presented with "something new by Belle and Sebastian"; and it turned out to be Carriage Clock. And it sounded rather wonderful actually. It's barely recognisable from the instrumental version they played at their gig a bit back; and is in no way harmed by its complete lack of a chorus. And having heard the second half of Jonathan David (I switched on the radio halfway through...), I am now of the opinion that every single song on the new EP is better than anything at all on the Fold Your Hands album. Or the Legal Man EP. A real return to form, and very welcome it is too. Sorry if anyone else has mentioned this already, but John Peel went on to say that B&S had already recorded a session, to be broadcast sometime in the first 2 weeks of June, consisting of 4 brand new songs, none of which appear on either of the 2 new EPs. So that'll be the sound of several hundred listees going shopping for blank tapes then... And before any non-UK listees complain that they just don't care, I'd remind you that you'll be able to listen to it over the internet; it'll be on in late afternoon in the States, so there's no excuses. I've just had a very frightening thought; this is my second post this week which actually contains some content. This is of course totally against my character, and will be rectified shortly. There's an election coming up in the UK. The main difference between our elections and those in the United States is that we know how to count. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DanMetcalfe at xxx.com Fri May 18 13:12:54 2001 From: DanMetcalfe at xxx.com (Dan Metcalfe) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:12:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: o-h yes Message-ID: <005a01c0df93$deef38a0$e500000a@ROUNDHAY> May I (in my first ever post) concur with Mr Gardiner on the points he makes about Mark & Lard. It was back in nineteen-dickety two (or when I was at college) when I would go to bed early to listen to their Mon-Thur show from start to finish. Amongst cultural attaché reports (eg. Douglas from BMX bandits(I think)), popstar novel readings and a bunch of other funny-talk stuff that I first heard 'The State ...' and was truly wowed. Their afternoon slot (we have it on at work) means they have to play a load of A & B list stuff, but hey, they played French Disco earlier in the week & Debaser yesterday. They OK. So, Albert Hall yes!yes!yes! There are 7 of us coming down from Leeds. I hope there'll be a proper indie club afterwards ...? Ta ta, Dan. Me and my baby doll, never went to the beach. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Fri May 18 14:50:55 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:50:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I can't get off my soapbox: it's too high Message-ID: And I can't work hotmail either, apparently. Two posts in one day? Sound like something my Dad would refer to about finding employment in the 70s. Anyway, I have good reason becuase I, like many others, am sure that I was ONLY person in the whole of the world to listen to Mark and Lard religiously between 10pm and midnight back in the day. "Of course, they only broadcast to MY wireless", I would whinge, in my corduroy-charged, noodle-fuelled studenty way. It's true (says Big stu) that they are solely responsible for B&S's first mass broadcast, and I also agree (like Dan) that they're being done a horrendous injustice by being allocated the afternoon slot. But it's the mention of guest reporters and general japes that made me post. Dan mentioned Douglas (of BMX Bandits - correct - does anyone remember the song 'Serious Drugs'? It was beautful.. woops, tangent). Hi again. I was about to comment at how mauch I enjoyed Katie Puckrick (sp?) on that show - she really added US Supermarket chic to the whole experience. I've got a CD of all the old characters too - does anyone remember the 3-second memory span goldfish, Rabbi Lionel Blair, Cyril Dorricot and his pathe news? It's pant-wettingly funny stuff. No more content aside from the mention of post-Albert Hall disco-dancing. I'm sure this is being taken care of by the more socially-aware members of the list. If so, can you let us all know? Ta. And Stu's right about you Americans - there's really no excuse. Have you ever seen Dundee? I have. Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daragh_lynch at xxx.com Fri May 18 15:38:26 2001 From: daragh_lynch at xxx.com (daragh lynch) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:38:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: faster than Walt Flanagan's dog. Message-ID: hi sinister folk, It usually takes quite a lot to make me post (twice in 3 years so far), but i just wanted to ask one or two things.... everyones been chatting about the glasgow shows, and about how much fun you are all going to have at a picnic beforehand. is anyone on sinister going to the aberdeen show? i haven't heard it mentioned so far. I'm coming over from belfast to stay with friends (actually, the only person i've truly converted to b&s. who in turn converted his sister. but yeah, i'm going with them.) are there plans for anything fun before/after the show? picnic if the weather is nice? hmmm. One other small (and really off topic) question... does anyone know the new address of freakytrigger? i can't find it anywhere and the link from the old site doesn't work. is tom ewing on the list? ok, coming up on 14 1/2 minutes so i'd better start signing off. love, daragh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Fri May 18 17:22:40 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:22:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The start of the journey. Message-ID: And I suppose this is the best part. Safe, secure, uncommitted, I could change my mind, but I won�t, something is about to change. It is the best kind of day for a new beginning. Not too perfect. Why would anyone ever change anything if everything was perfect? Today is a day is definitely a day for a new beginning It is bright but with what could be the slight chill of wind and a slight greyness. I notice the weather a lot it is something you can rely on to be changeable. Other things well other things you have to look harder for change but often if you do you will find it. Yesterday for instance standing at a bus stop looking at the same old buildings. The shapes, the same colours, the same things I see everyday of my life just about. Not exactly the ideal place to look for change you might think? Well you would be wrong. I was staring at the wall of a block of flats I must have seen a million times before. Normally, though, I would see it as just that, a wall, but for some reason yesterday I saw the bricks. It was brilliant; they weren�t even shapes at all but sort of rounded and comforting. The colours varied so much from one to another I wondered how I could have gone all of this time just seeing the wall. All the same just like that my life changed I would never be able to stand at that bus stop and see the whole wall without the bricks. That all seems a long time ago now. And I�m getting off the point here, sorry. I just got a bit carried away there. I have yet to tell you that the most important change that happened to me recently. It happened a few hours ago when I woke up. This morning the world disappeared leaving me wondering why. The quiet that surrounded me cushioned the blow because the idea that there was nothing left to fear would have scared me quite a bit. I've been lying here for an hour or so now and there�s nowhere left to go. But its alright I have everything left to see. The emptiness that was normally inside of me was gone but somehow it now surrounded me... And instead of being on the outside looking in I was on the inside looking out. And surely that�s not a normal thing to happen? But I have nobody to ask about this so maybe it�s just my perception of the situation. Everybody else seems to have disappeared along with the world. Maybe you will understand why this day is not completely perfect now� and maybe you will understand why today is a good day for the start of this journey� Now you will forgive me for making an assumption here. I may of course be completely wrong but I shouldn�t think too many people have woken up to find this has happened to them. This being the case I should try to tell you what it feels like. Have you ever been in a room with a group of friends all talking and laughing but you felt completely alone? That is what happens to me. Not that it is a bad thing to happen. Its just that I often find myself in a little world of my own about a million miles away from other people. Sometimes I can be listening to a conversation smiling and nodding and maybe even laughing but I�m not quite there I�m somewhere else. And then I start thinking �well if I�m not here and other people aren�t aware of that then maybe they aren�t here either.� And then when I start to think along those lines I can�t help wonder how many million miles apart we all are.. It makes me feel very small and very alone. That feeling of being alone is just a fraction of what I felt this morning. It is nothing compared to waking up and realising that the world had got bored of my half-hearted participation. and decided to leave me. And seeing as I am alone I should finish these words now� Let them float off and create a little bit of life for themselves. Maybe this will be the start of my new world or maybe this just the beginning of the journey� The best part I suppose� _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri May 18 20:30:40 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:30:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: duckie for president Message-ID: <000201c0e000$dd1c11c0$0427073e@aqlzosqt> it is indeed encouraging that an icon of popular culture such as silent bob should like another such icon, john hughes. in fact it's the best thing about silent bob, and there are many great things. i watched pretty in pink all on my own the other night and it was bliss. even though the rich kid/poor kid divisions have been superseded (in my experience anyway) by the far more elusive battleground of 'cool', it still rings true. and yes, i am aware that that statement says things about me that i would rather it didn't. also, madeleine said: "... this vision of loveliness that is Molly Ringwald. What a truly marvellous woman she is (well, was)." what do you mean, 'was'? i'll have you know that molly is still looking gorgeous, albeit in rather more sober attire these days, and the fact that she's now making sub-genre movies for tv cannot sully her. ruvi wrote, divinely as usual, of loonies. i think it's true that many of the most out there people aren't obvious. and the ones that seem to be should be subjected to rigorous bullshit detector tests (see discussion of 25p man etc, passim.) but a man holding some pills in one hand and a bundle of tissue in the other stood in front of me on wednesday and just kept saying 'please help me, please help me, please help me', which has a tendency to sneak past most bullshit detectors, mine anyway. i gave him my sandwich and felt terrible all day. in my capacity as literature programmer/researcher type person i'm just about to write to alan moore. i'm ridiculously excited by this. alan moore! responsible for one of the greatest novels of the century, though i don't think watchmen was ever discussed on the late review... which is criminal really. no content at all. much like my diary. oh yeah, one of my four albert hall tickets might be going spare if anyone gets desperate. offers accepted :) luv archel ps: i don't particularly like kings of convenience, i've decided. they do not stick in the head or heart. even sugababes do the former. b&s do both obviously. *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Fri May 18 18:48:56 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:48:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: duckie for president References: <000201c0e000$dd1c11c0$0427073e@aqlzosqt> Message-ID: <004401c0dfc2$cfadd7a0$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel Playforth" To: "Sinister Mailing List" Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Sinister: duckie for president > it is indeed encouraging that an icon of popular culture such as silent bob > should like another such icon, john hughes. in fact it's the best thing > about silent bob, and there are many great things. i watched pretty in pink > all on my own the other night and it was bliss. even though the rich > kid/poor kid divisions have been superseded (in my experience anyway) by the > far more elusive battleground of 'cool', it still rings true. and yes, i am > aware that that statement says things about me that i would rather it > didn't. > > also, madeleine said: "... this vision of loveliness that is Molly Ringwald. > What a truly marvellous woman she is (well, was)." > > what do you mean, 'was'? i'll have you know that molly is still looking > gorgeous, albeit in rather more sober attire these days, and the fact that > she's now making sub-genre movies for tv cannot sully her. i'd not had a chance to respond to this yet. thanks for being on the spot, rachel! "was" indeed! hmph! jay, whose greatest wish is to marry an anglo-irish freckled lass named molly.......but you all knew that, didn't you? "you've been letting your feelings show" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Fri May 18 19:48:56 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:48:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Octopus should not be eaten semi-raw. Message-ID: <63.1646ba53.2836c898@aol.com> In a message dated 5/10/01 5:01:50 PM, ojh9 at aber.ac.uk writes: << YOU'RE KISSING YOUR ELBOW: This has probably come up before at some point... but In the shower the other morning I was singing happily, and discovered that it is in fact impossible to kiss your elbow >> This is true, very difficult to kiss your elbow, but be very careful when trying. I dont knw if any of you remember the marvin redpost books, by louis sachar, but one of them (marvin redpost, is he a girl?) our friend marvin dealt with this very issue. He was told in school that if you kiss your elbow, you switch genders, and that it was impossible to kiss your elbow anyways. Well, after a few days of trying just for the hell of it, he wakes up from a nightmare in a tangle of bedsheets, on the floor, very uncomfortable but with his elbow infront of his lips. He takes the opprotunity, kisses his elbow, gets back into bed, and lo and behold, he becomes a girl. Let this be a warning to all of you!! -sophie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Fri May 18 20:55:54 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:55:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm sending too many posts, sorry, i'll stop after this one i promise Message-ID: i must give a big 'fancy a brew', 'must get some oil for the door' or at least a 'biggedybiggedy boing' to the fabulous mark and lard who's evening show i first discovered when i should have been revising for my gcse's back in '95 (also when i discovered B&S but i think i heard 'the state...' being played by mary anne hobbs in my case) there are plenty of websites out there with literaly thousands of short clips of them to download on the net somewhere, go find them i loved cyril dorricot thanks to those of you who pointed out i was thinking of Todd Solondz when i mentioned Hal Hartley - esp. to jason for the list of films, i might do some research into both directors. these coincidences keep happening to me, i thought about 2 people the other day who i hadn't seen for a while and bumped into them both at separate occasions. i thought to myself "i havent heard from James in a while, i wonder if they've got a new single out soon" and later that night i heard james' new single on the radio. i also thought "ruvi hasn't posted for a while, i like his posts, they are informative and humerous" (maybe not in those words) and lo and behold the man writes and proves to us he is safe and not dead! i'm scared... really... it's freaking me out... so i'll go. what's the crack with the 15 minute rule?, should a post take you more or less than a quarter of an hour to compose? i'm con fussed. i might have a job DJing on a thursday night at my local before and between the bands, whoopee!! pez* ps. karren, you seem to get all my ps's these days. your new address is alot closer than canada so i'll send your tape there if you want, cheaper on the old stamps, see. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Fri May 18 21:55:42 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:55:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Why eat hamburger when you can eat STEAK? Message-ID: Hello all, I saw the John Hughes discussion, and I couldn't help mention something that has always bugged me. Does anyone else feel Duckie gets a raw deal at the end of Pretty in Pink? Here he is, a nice guy in love with his best friend. She falls for some hunky rich guy whom she doesn't know, and poor Duckie is stuck with Annie Potts. Sure, he acts like a jerk, but only because the plot forces him to. In the end, he does the noble thing and lets her go. What is his reward? James Spader's skanky left-overs. Are we really to believe he just forgets about Molly for that blond 80's whore? I can't help but like the movie. With New Order, the Furs, OMD, and of course, the smiths on the soundtrack, who can complain? The best 80's teen movie is "Say Anything..." though. I can't even begin to describe it's greatness. All you lucky UK folks! I have to wait quite some time to hear Johnathan David and Carriage Clock. Does anyone know when they will be on John Peel? Peace out -Matt "there are more wipes than the star wipe" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mwng at xxx.com Fri May 18 22:46:44 2001 From: Mwng at xxx.com (Abrupt to the point of rudeness) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:46:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Have you ever written an obituary for a friend? Message-ID: The language of rapture, huh, I'll give you rapture, I'll give you nothing you wanted to know and everything you didn't, I'll tell you how things are really run, who's the Daddy? I'll give you love and death, war and peace, Morcombe and Wise. Laura was the same, before she left, before she stopped, she blew her brains out in a suicide machine. She now only lives in a faded newspaper cut out kept by her mother, next to her picture as a girl on sports day. But God dam it, she was a rebel. She did everything before everyone else, even death. Have you ever written an obituary for a friend? I shouldn't worry about writing the ultimate text. I shouldn't worry about being Joyce or Dostoyevski. I even shouldn't worry about name-dropping either. I think that a modern text needs name-dropping; there are no longer any good names in the world. There are no more Oppenheimers, no more Merry Pranksters; no one holidays in Monte Carlo any more. Erica would agree that there is no more class. She would say that there is no one to take up the baton and run, no one willing to hotwire the Bentley, tear up the lawn in their bold escape to the coast and fuck the consequences, no more brutal teenage suicides. There are no heroes anymore. I shouldn't worry about this coming anywhere near the ultimate text, I am fully aware that it can be nothing but an insignificant text, touched up by a drunken author over the years until he finds a wife or some other distraction, that he forgets about this text and fills his now adult life with taxes, mortgages and many other things which I cannot even think of right now. I must apologise. I am not writing this in the best of circumstances. It is two in the morning and I am, ever so slightly intoxicated by cheep wine and my fathers' even cheaper whisky. The truth is that if I was sober I could probably think of a third millstone, which shall deservedly occupy my marital neck in years to come. Perhaps I should stay drunk. At least if I'm drunk I don't think about marriage, about mortgages and jobs for life, except they're not for life: they are for as long as the company can stand you or you can stand the situation. If I was sober I could think; Drunkenness is bliss. Ignorance is truly bliss. If I was at work I wouldn't know what was going on, I would be kept constantly busy by my demanding and fearful (demanding of me and fearful me and all those in my department) boss, so busy I wouldn't have time to think. Perhaps that's for the best. Perhaps I should get a job. At least then I wouldn't mull over what I know, there's no way to go back and un-learn what I have come to understand in these last few weeks. I wish there was but there isn't, and that's the problem: it's all about reality, or rather the perception of reality, the same reality that interrupts my sleep, the same reality that interrupts my workless day to bang the truth home. Come on, hug my soul. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri May 18 22:34:22 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:34:22 Subject: Sinister: Stop! Message-ID: ...carry on! Anyway, my British chums, I thought I'd write and give my two-penneth on recent things. As for the Mark & Lard thing, yes they were great, then they were alright on the breakfast show, and now they're great in parts in the afternoon, but nothing will beat Simon Armitage, "fancy a brew", them playing TSTIAI and my mate getting his name read out on it when he was 14. Yes, I was **that** cool - I had a mate whose name the boy Lard had **said**. So yeah, they were brilliant. But now they're not. Oh well. I was walking down Oxford Street by myself on Monday evening, about to meet a certain listee when I noticed a very stange thing. The dummmies in the windows of different shops appeared to be of totally different, how shall we say, umm... proportions. Some have bigger chests, some have tighter waists, some have broader shoulders etc. It's very bizarre. I'd like to think that it's something to do with the type of person the shop is trying to appeal to, but it's probably just luck whether they get a B-cup dummy or a C-cup one. Has anybody else noticed this or am I just imagining this? Onto Mr Carter's point about mediocrity or whatever. Please, please, **PERRRLEEEASE* don't sully my inbox with this kind of crap, and I quote: "I'd argue that in a lot of ways [Kings Of Convenienve's album] is ground breaking". Sorry Pete, it's not. It's beautiful, sleepy, rather wonderful harmony-tinged, startlingly good Norwegian folk-pop, played with two instruments which have been around for centuries, and using simple but effective lyrics/harmonies about troubled relationships of whatever sort. See here: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=groundbreaking Groundbreaking, it ain't. I take the man's points, but there are limits to which you can stretch such things. Then again, everybody's entitled to their own opinions, not that many people them (their **own** opinions, that is). Anyway, does anybody else think it a bit strange to hear 'Pyramid Song' played on daytime Radio 1? I certainly do. Chris Moyles played it on Wednesday, and it was very bizzare. The Radio 1 jingle comes in, then the song, and then SClub7. Now I'm not complaining, because that's two great songs in a row, but if Radio 1 are playing this, shouldn't they be playing more hautingly captivating angst with no time signatures? It's just strange hearing this wonderfully anti-radio, desolate song flanked on both sides by p!o!p. Perhaps it's just me again. Oh well... I think I've said enough again. I volunteered to be Picnic Mummy for the Albert Hall thing, but the number of responses I've had could be counted on the finger of one stump, so I'll stop shouting... Right then, a big biggedy-biggedy-bong in a twee Scottish style... love s.X _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Fri May 18 23:58:31 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: favorite VU song titles Message-ID: First, SORRY!!! Alex says Stroke It Noel Denton says 'I think I shall have to stroke you,' he said at last, as if there were no help for it, no other way out. The voice was changed again; it was a child's voice now, soft and dreamy, with that ruthless concentration that acknowledges no other interest in the world. Very gently he lowered his hand to the sleeve of her jersey. Mary could feel his hard palm grating over the wool; sometimes a strand caught in a piece of rough skin and was snapped. Her teeth were set on edge, but she could not move; she sat becalmed waiting for the next stroke. Jim began to run his fingers over her hair, starting at the top of her head, descending each wave and curl until he reached the nape of the neck. There he seemed to love the projecting bone with the pads of his fingers; he smoothed it and touched it gingerly. It was as if he were playing with a very pretty cat which yet held some hint of malice in its twitching tail. Sam says The dummmies in the windows of different shops appeared to be of totally different, how shall we say, umm... proportions. Some have bigger chests, some have tighter waists, some have broader shoulders etc. It's very bizarre. Stephen says naught but Edward says solemnly myselves ask "life, the question how do i drink dream smile and how do i prefer this face to another and why do i weep eat sleep---what does the whole intend" William says Being so caught up, So mastered by the brute blood of the air, Did she put on his knowledge with his power Before the indifferent beak could let her drop? Ferdinand says 00100111 01001100 01101111 01110110 01100101 01100000 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01101001 01100111 01101110 00101110 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcel_proust24 at xxx.com Sat May 19 00:26:26 2001 From: marcel_proust24 at xxx.com (steven kado) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:26:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ne mosquitoes pass Message-ID: So, first off... i'm slightly miffed that no one from our (perhaps formerly) large-ish finnish contingent has bothered to fill me in on whats what in helsinki. what gives? wither Jarkko? wither Ulla? where should i stay? where can i eat? is there any gallery action that is 'un missable?' is the public transportation confusing? however, despite finnish disappointment i would like to say a big thankyou to greece for producing RETSINA MALAMATINA!!! which, due to being cheap and coming in half-litre bottles, is now my favourite thing IN THE WORLD!!! its good in a way that makes later EC irrelevant. In fact, after 2 bottles of it i totally forget about the last 5 years of EC. and no, i don't mean electric circus. so i cried while listening to the last joan of arc ep. hurray! R O B Y N F A D D E N ! ! ! ! ! ! yes!!! it was about time she posted, i was going to have to introduce the subject of shoes myself... but robyn, what became of the white campers you saw that day, those spectral shoozles...do they haunt you? or have you moved on to others? will the craving for shoes ever be sated? you realize that if you go to japan what once was merely the desire for nice shoes will morph into an insane quest to replace your entire wardrobe. my friend rob picked up this marvelous fake army-surplus jacket that says 'rare electro rock' in pink gothic letters on the back while in japan. my drooling only recently subsisted. i was looking at shoes myself and i was wondering why none of the fake campers were able to replicate that mysetrious and perfect roundness of the toe that the real deal so easily manage? don't the manufacturers of these camper-knock-offs see that it is precicely the shape and not the intricate stitching of the leather and sneaker-like lacing that contains the camper shoe's mystical allure? what i'm driving at is that i badly want a pair of campers but can't afford them and none of the knock offs will do so i cower and cry. what i, however, never wanted; at all ever, and in fact need precicely as much as i need tuberculosis, is a collaborative recording of various and sundry 'pop hits' from a too thoroughly nostalgised period performed with ersatz errudition by a talented but sometimes dull opera singer with help from a once great new wave pop song writer (who is now thoroughly washed up and operates exclusively in the adult contemporary 'genre'). i just thought i would make that clear. campers yes, A-S vM + EC no. also robyn fadden mentioned that she, like ruvi like others found kings of convenience boring, well i would mention my own contribution to the subject on march thirty-first when i said: >forget kings of convenience they might be popular but they'll never be >interesting, but then sarah clarke said this >Just the other day >I attached a Kings of Convienience album to a pneumatic drill, and >terrorised the streets of the Brixton with it. When I dropped it, I drilled >a hole right through to the centre of the earth, and scared a few dwarfs >down there, who were playing Magic Cards! A ground breaking album indeed, ho >ho ho! and now i am madly in love with her. i love how it also perfectly involves nerd-baiting too! rah! take that computer science! but if that wasn't good enough: >Yay, 40 minutes till I can go home and play my BASS. Bass is the best >instrument of any. for real! my totally ficticious ardour increases exponentially at the introduction of such an instrument! i'm seized by the sudden desire to get on my bike, pedal accross the ocean and sweep her away to 'the casbah' and get busy putting the ass back in bass...whew! but then, i'm sure she wouldn't have me, what with my mind like a sewer and my heart like a fridge...no, instead of lewd, low-end imaginative scenarios i think sarah, robyn and i should form some kind of sinister bass conspiracy. the streets would rumble with the sound of our bassy approach. another reason why bass is great is because you can look cooler doing it than any other instrument, it gives the perfect aire of detatchment to even the most invloved motion. my bass is a fake paul mccartney bass. it is light and tiny. youn suggested that perhaps EC had seized control of the power grid, or had in some how insinuated himself into what germans call kraftwerk, which can only be wishful speculation since the thought of him controlling vast patterns of lighting in buildings is infinitely preferable to the thought of him doing another album, or continuing to wear that aweful little hat. really, you'd think cait would make him get a different one, it makes him look like some sort of little pet-creature dressed up in human clothes and photographed in "endearing" poses for use in tacky hallmark calendars. ree-volting. i guess i'm out of steam. which is good, because humans should usually not have any steam in them in the first place, all the water in the human body (with the exception of some allowable vapour in the lungs) should be in its liquid form....but if one happens to be an antique, steam-driven automaton then it is not good for the steam to escape because then it ruins your carefully constructed veneer of life-like-ness, and also probably reduces the air pressure that your pneumatic works need to opperate. s t e v e nn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Fri May 18 00:23:44 2001 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:23:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NEW NYC Picnic Date and just a regular post Message-ID: <00bc01c0df28$6b043e60$8624a5d8@nyu.edu> Okay, having announced the NYC picnic date for June 9th, I got a bunch of email from people who couldn't make it that day. Also, Will Porter has work that day, and a picnic without Will Porter is like a game of DDR without E-rotic songs. So, we're moving the picnic to JUNE 16TH!!! Same place as before. When the time gets closer, I'll provide a little hand drawn map and directions to the exact spot. Email me with questions, comments, compliments, etc. To anyone who emailed me off list, I have emailed you seperately (or will shortly after this is sent). Some people said some funny things lately. About two weeks ago Richard Gillanders wrote his first post, and I found it very amusing. I just wanted him to know that. Laurallew said: "Yes, I'm back from New York where I even went on a scenic tour of Long Island." Okay, Miss Llew, that's the second time you've come to New York without calling me. That makes me very, very sad. Elena said: " Well apart from the fact that 'Orrible Martin threw my frisbee in the tree and even with lots of efforts we couldn't get it down" Hmmmm. There are many things I want to say here but won't. After all, of all the things Martin's done around me, they don't include throwing my frisbee in a tree. A lot of people have been talking about Molly Ringwald lately. Molly is a fan of the man-child rawk god known as Rhett Miller, and also of the man-woman pop princess known as Kiki (of Kiki & Herb). This means she's at the World Famous Fez (In the heart of downtown New York, prime Britney-spotting territory) a lot. And so we Sinister kids who hang out at Fez see her a lot. Okay, she's a bitch. And also, she arrives and leaves in a big white limo. Hello, Molly, limos are so tacky. Let it go, you haven't been in a movie since the late 80s. Also she's not that cute. Okay so remember, mark the 16th of June on your calendars for a picnic in Central Park. I love you. Come visit. xoxo Julie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Sat May 19 05:38:54 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 00:38:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Needle in the Groove Message-ID: <002501c0e01d$9cd8c820$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> I started my Sinister journey the first time around with a reference to Jeff Noon in the subject line, might as well start my second round with Sinister with another. In case you don't know, Jeff Noon is a writer, he's a very good writer that writes about drugs that are feathers and dreams that are worlds. He's not very twee, but he's very smooth and smart and hip. I doubt anyone will remember me from my first go, except perhaps the llacivious llavacious llovely Llaura Llew. You all know her, the one in the corner with the halo and air of southern gentry. If Rachel Tucker's about she might remember me, because she identified my Jeff Noon quote the last time around and told me to read Gormenghast, which I did and for which I'm in her debt. So cheers to Rachel if she's still hanging about the Sinister playground. As I said, Llaura Llew needs no introduction, known world wide for her charm and excellent mix tapes and packages of goodies sent through the post. In some places she's considered an urban legend, this shadowy figure making mix tapes and christmas stockings. Reports of Llew sightings are few and far between, the most evidence we have of her existence are the bits of electronic wisdom she sends us off and on. "Welcome back to *THE* Jimmy G! Yes, he hasn't posted yet but I know from secret sources that he has rejoined the list. Ya know, he *is* the reason I even discovered my Dorothy Parker when he said to me, "Laura, it's not as if I expect you to be Dorothy Parker."" See, she's dubbed me THE Jimmy G, now do you see the reason for the praise I send her way? Of course, I'm also trying to make up of some quiet time when I was out of contact and was unable to bask in her southern glow. She can even out Dorothy Parker Dorothy Parker sometimes. I blame it on medical reasons, whiplash to be exact. It wasn't my fault I didn't write, that sudden, sharp turn to the right the country took round about November 7th nearly broke my neck. I feel like a little kid scuffing my foot in the dirt and watching everyone take the wrong path, while I'm still looking forward under a sign that says; "Next Century - Evolution Ahead". Ah well, Llew has forgiven me my trespasses like the angelic girl she is, she's far too kind to this poor heathen boy. We're like a bad buddy cop movie as done by Dante. The foul-mouthed unbalanced heathen boy and the angelic by-the-book angel girl. Why she puts up with me I'll never know. She says it's the eyebrows, I knew she was only after my body. A fair warning, beware the llove dungeon. I think that's enough for now, except to say that I'll be in the UK this summer from june 3rd to july 12th, I do hope american heathen boys are allowed at the picnics, because I'd rather like to attend. Cheers Be sinister children... Jim "I haven't feel geeky or dumb since I was 17. I don't feel marginalised or outmoded and neither should anyone else in this thriving, multiplex society. When will successful, creative, intelligent people stop thinking of themselves as childlike outsiders and start engaging with the real high-stakes world? Wake up fanboy, wake up fangirl. Don't you want to rule the world?" - Grant Morrison +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sat May 19 09:47:11 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:47:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: retrato em branco e preto Message-ID: <3B06330F.88C6FAA3@netscapeonline.co.uk> do people actually read ghormenghast? isn't it, well, we struggled with the hobbit and made a start on the lord of the rings and all this way of describing the world in terms of castles became a little boring? I haven't read Pynchon or Proust Either. Proust Either gives gardening advice on my own imaginary TV channel. I did read Coover's Pinocchio in Venice, which took me about a year and a half, in which I am delighted to discover about the nocturnal habits of dogs and the renaissance in general Maybe my post is too short Today I do less well than other days.. this is life affectionately yours +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com Sat May 19 14:57:25 2001 From: alchoholmakesmesexy at xxx.com (Chris shaft) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:57:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TICKETS SCOTLAND ARE ARSEHOLES Message-ID: Yeah, that's right, you heard me. total cocks, excuse my language. fannybaws. bawsacs. the shitbags have arsed up my order for tickets, so I can no longer go to the saturday gig, and I've still not got my friday tickets..... if I ever get them..... I can only rely on having entered a competition for saturday tickets... (please.....) that's what happens when you rely on an aberdonian cockface in virgin records..... can't wait to get back home.... sorry if any youngsters are reading this, my languge is rather disgracefull...... I'm helping to organise a meetup on the saturday still tho'..... ally will probably post final details of it...... anyway, I still can't wait.... included in the list of poss cover versions were last child by aerosmith girl/boy by aphex twin we built this city by starship my favourite dress by the wedding present improve workshop mimeshow gobshite by half man half biscuit dropkick me jesus through the goal posts of life by delbert mccintlock anyway, cu s all soon... ugs _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Sat May 19 19:05:02 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 14:05:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the butcher, baker and the bassline maker References: Message-ID: <001901c0e08e$3ad6afe0$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven kado" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Sinister: ne mosquitoes pass what i, > however, never wanted; at all ever, and in fact need precicely as much as i > need tuberculosis, is a collaborative recording of various and sundry 'pop > hits' from a too thoroughly nostalgised period performed with ersatz > errudition by a talented but sometimes dull opera singer with help from a > once great new wave pop song writer (who is now thoroughly washed up and > operates exclusively in the adult contemporary 'genre'). i just thought i > would make that clear. campers yes, A-S vM + EC no. > > also robyn fadden mentioned that she, like ruvi like others found kings of > convenience boring, well i would mention my own contribution to the subject > on march thirty-first when i said: > > >forget kings of convenience they might be popular but they'll never be > >interesting, > > but then sarah clarke said this > > >Just the other day > >I attached a Kings of Convienience album to a pneumatic drill, and > >terrorised the streets of the Brixton with it. When I dropped it, I drilled > >a hole right through to the centre of the earth, and scared a few dwarfs > >down there, who were playing Magic Cards! A ground breaking album indeed, > ho > >ho ho! > > and now i am madly in love with her. i love how it also perfectly involves > nerd-baiting too! rah! take that computer science! but if that wasn't good > enough: > > >Yay, 40 minutes till I can go home and play my BASS. Bass is the best > >instrument of any. > > for real! my totally ficticious ardour increases exponentially at the > introduction of such an instrument! i'm seized by the sudden desire to get > on my bike, pedal accross the ocean and sweep her away to 'the casbah' and > get busy putting the ass back in bass...whew! but then, i'm sure she > wouldn't have me, what with my mind like a sewer and my heart like a > fridge...no, instead of lewd, low-end imaginative scenarios i think sarah, > robyn and i should form some kind of sinister bass conspiracy. the streets > would rumble with the sound of our bassy approach. another reason why bass > is great is because you can look cooler doing it than any other instrument, > it gives the perfect aire of detatchment to even the most invloved motion. > > my bass is a fake paul mccartney bass. it is light and tiny. > > youn suggested that perhaps EC had seized control of the power grid, or had > in some how insinuated himself into what germans call kraftwerk, which can > only be wishful speculation since the thought of him controlling vast > patterns of lighting in buildings is infinitely preferable to the thought of > him doing another album, or continuing to wear that aweful little hat. > really, you'd think cait would make him get a different one, it makes him > look like some sort of little pet-creature dressed up in human clothes and > photographed in "endearing" poses for use in tacky hallmark calendars. > ree-volting. and if i had a mouthful of coffee it would be all over the screen. do you think he should join the "best in show" shih tzu's in recreating classic hollywood? can i join the bass conspiracy? i'm not sure how much ass i can put back into it (though one my computer generated "prison bitch" names is indeed "juicy ass". another variation that came up was "nipple nibbler". not bad i guess) but i can certainly hold down the rhythm whilst other members fly off into fretboard gymnastics i'm certainly not capable of. any rip at the magic people also wins my heart. did the dwarves have half-formed mustaches and big t-shirts with whales and wolves on them? were they armed with wooden swords and a girl in a medieval dress? if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right. i've heard wildly mixed opinions on the anne sofie encounter myself. it's still not in my hands. what to do, what to do...... buy david byrne's new one in the meantime i guess, complete with lenticular cover and bonus tracks. (a borders exclusive! woo woo!) (rumor has it there's some light at the end of the tunnel though, steve. until then, go play GH!! and remember....he could always be *sting*) and now i guess some productivity should at least be faked, so off i go jay "i bet he thinks he was chosen out of millions" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. 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Name: not available URL: From Katia913 at xxx.com Sun May 20 01:07:23 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:07:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: I love the cinema you love! Message-ID: I do, its the truth.. This is my first post, as I was just given the right to do so, so bear with me, or else don't I don't care. I'm Kate, and I'm from Chicago, which as you all know is in the US and I am therefor dot attending any of the great shows with B&S that you will. And I'm real jealous, but hey what can I do. As for all of your exams I have them too, but mine start real late on the 30th. Frustration overcomes me... Um so all of you know, I'm a younger person than the most of you, I'm still in highschool, and got into b&S when sinister came out...Its still my favorite. I play them here on my dj job, its not one of mention, just a local station but because of it I've gotten a few into them and others I'll end this soon but I was real shocked to hear, that in my first week of getting this lovely thing that you ALL enjoy Hefner as much as I. If anyone wants, please send me a list of your fav artists, Id love to broaden my taste. Kate from Chicago. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hugoshannon at xxx.com Sun May 20 02:34:07 2001 From: hugoshannon at xxx.com (Hugo Shannon) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:34:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: many things of great interest Message-ID: hello all! what a day, i think i've finally expeienced 'high society' in my adopted hometown. having recently read american psycho and bonfire of the vanities i was briefly infatuated with the yuppie lifestyle. ( I could wear those suits, eat those meals, meet those models...) however, i was disturbed when i found myself (unwittingly) in the place of sleazebag english journalist from bonfires, being presented with several drinks just because i was sitting at the same table as some peple who knew some people who knew me. i did drink the drinks. and i'm talking about nottingham england in case anyone thinks i'm alluding to much photographed sites of world class glamour. i've always known there were people who earned good salaries here, i just never thought i'd go to the sort of place they did. (the social - where sometimes indie bands play !) the drinks i drank cost more than those i bought (for the people i did know who bought me drinks - the fair and reasonable way of spending a nite on the town). this has left me feeling bad. i didn't want the drinks i was given (not that much anyway), and i couldn't possibly repay everyone who indulged me. all i can conclude is that some people are overpaid. aside from all that, a lot of people have been talking about dreams lately. some people have sounded quite depressed too. its impossible to say this without sounding cliched or stupid, but things ALWAYS get better. my considered advice - bearing in mind i'm a long way off being grrey haired - is not to think of pirates or witches (particulatly witches, or even, forgive me for entertaining the notion - pirate-witches) when trying to sleep. this should result in less nitemares. happy dreams can come true too. they often do. my favourite ever dream involved me and some friends rescuing a unicorn from a shelter in the woods made of blue spongy stuff. i was less than 10 years old. i'm pretty sure i'd not seen ridley scotts's legend at this point in my life. and so, ** belle and sebastian content** hearing judy and the dream of horses for the first time struck a chord. more stuff: i've got tickets for the albert hall, is there a definite pre gig picnic - after gig club nite going on? i could stay at my brothers flat but it would be far more rock and roll to go out and get the first train home -WITHOUT HAVING SLEPT!! i'm a little tipsy writing this, and am sure i've broken the 15 min rule. so i'll continue. 80's films have been discussed. i'm confused betweeen pretty in pink and some kind of wonderful. is one a remake of the other? ferris beuller has a cabaret voltaire poster in his room. i think the film would have been infinitely more satisfying if master ferris had got his comeuppance(sp). the best 80's film is labyrinth. this e-mails getting uncontrollably long, so i'll end with an apology for my mock turtles/pwei pedantry. perhaps there are two songs by the title can u dig it? (i just don't know the mock turtles one. i probably should - i'm sure it would make me a less uptight person) love and sweet dreams. hugo. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Sun May 20 03:51:24 2001 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:51:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My sinister posting days are over Message-ID: <200105200244.DAA26122@missprint.org> Hello, Well, my university is going to withdraw my account fairly soon, so I guess it is a logical time to bid farewell to sinister. It's been a wonderful year on here talking rubbish all the time and showing my lack of musical knowledge. Still lazy as ever, still jobless, still single, still, life goes on. Ah well. No more emails from Kenneth P Y Chu at last yippie! Love and Red Bulls Ken ====================================================================== My bip bopping days are over, I hung my boots up and then retired from the disco floor - Belle & Sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sun May 20 04:20:25 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:20:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: first post.... Message-ID: <3B0A4454@MailAndNews.com> Hello, This is the compulsory first post.. I'm a bit nervous. Let me introduce myself, my name is Ken and I'm a retired Computer Science lecturer, specialising in boolean algebra. My favourite hobbies include Skiing during winter time, chicken farming and playing chess. I think the new Radiohead song "The Pyramid Song" is really ground breaking, what with Thom Yorke yodelling, and stuff. That's why I like Radiohead and have a ticket to see them in Oxford in July, I really hope they won't play the Bends then, cos that song is rubbish (like it's got guitar in it for a start, and it has time signatures yeeeeeeeeeeerk... is it even a real song?). Talking of gigs, I'm going to see Belle & Sebastian soon! I hope they will play Beyond the Sunrise then. Did anyone know, that song has a hidden meaning which is Isobel and Sturan having sex! Well before the gig I hope to meet some sinister people at picnic, but there seems to be absolutely nobody TAKING CONTROL here, there's only 28 days left to find somewhere to drink wine and play footie! Sarah Clarke of the European Union said: >> however! I am sure with the time honoured tactic of wrapping a vodka bottle in a condom, swallowing it and carrying it "mule like" through the ticket office would again be a valid solution! << Hmmm.. smuggling vodka bottles into gigs, I can't really remember when was the last time someone's done that and what the results were, but it was quite funny wasn't it Sarah? :) I am a big fan of Molly Ringwald, however much her name reminds me of Ringworms she is still rather nice. Who I'm not a big fan of, is Kenneth P Y Chu, I am very glad to see the back of him. Although he does have an exquisite taste in Energy Drinks, shame about his lack of girls. Right, I think I've reached my 15 minutes limit now. Bye. Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vilkas at xxx.com Sat May 19 06:53:00 2001 From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:53:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ten Things Message-ID: <200105200448.AAA24677@hall.mail.mindspring.net> Hey folks. This is Ms. Vilkas. I thought I'd get granola on your ass and blow some sunshine your way. *Ten things that rock* 1. Sliding your socks off by means of your toes while between cool fresh dark sheets 2. Orange Juice 3. Getting Enough Sleep 4. Listening to music either on headphones or v-e-r-y loud 5. My kitty cat (always but especially) when he curls into a ball and spoons right next to me 6. Comfortable shoes that let you go and go and go far(especially dancing and or walking) 7. Freshly dyed hair (...in particular when I had the Elvis-black colour; it was like a black hole resting on top of my head. My hair's punk rock white now and much shorter because of the [oops] chemical damage.) 8. Granny Smith or Gala Apples 9. Going places you've never been, from behind the refrigerator to other continents 10. Yogi tea When someone said something extra funny, I almost shot guinness out my nose last Friday evening at a party at my friends house. I can't even remember what he said. dammit. I Know Where the Summer Goes' sounds kinda like 'Who Knows Where the Time Goes?' by Fairport Convention. Sounds like there are some word and sound bits in the newer song that are kinda like hip-hop shout-out references to the older song. Hmmm.... Sam Walton: I think that hearing Pyramid Song next to SClub7 is extra cool. I was given Kool Keith's "Black-Elvis" today. How cool is that? Very. Well I think so anyway. �MWAH!, Ms. Vilkas P.S. Any of yous in Iceland? Any travel/accomadation/that kind of stuff/cool stuff going on advice if you are? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun May 20 15:51:59 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:51:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: family tree Message-ID: Last night I played piano for a pretty wedding, and my brother played guitar and my sweet sister sang with my cousins, and people said it was beautiful. I thought 'my, I am blessed to have such a lovely family.' Then everyone started on the wine, and soon I found myself being dragged onto the dancefloor to 'urban polka' with David. My mother is small and darling and doesn't hold alcohol well. After lingering near the bar for a time, she informed me that I am going to Europe next week. Then she gave me a kiss and made me dance to the Beach Boys. Before supper, a minister said a prayer. After everyone said "Amen," there was an awkward silence...nobody wanted to be the first person to start eating, I suppose. Aunt Barb took a gulp of gin and said "alright, Jesus!" Mom kept laughing and saying "alright, Jesus" for the remainder of the evening, often within earshot of the minister. My fourteen-year-old sister was drinking what looked like margaritas all night, and she insisted that they were 'non- alcoholic,' but you never know with a crazy kid like that. By the end of the night, she had teamed up with a little friend and choreographed (and performed) a four-minute interpretive dance to a song I've forgotten. My father just kept buying me gin and tonic and laughing. The only other thing I remember him doing last night is jumping up on a table for an acapella rendition of "All You Need is Love." Now it's ten o'clock in the morning and no one is awake yet, which is odd for my family. If one good thing came from last night's shameful drunkenness, it was my mother deciding that I can indeed use the money in my college fund to leave the States this summer. I have quite a bit to do, seeing as I am leaving in a week. Maybe I will get to meet some of you, depending on where I go. I have blubbered too much rubbish now, so I will go see if I can wake the family. Bye Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From william.flanagan at xxx.uk Sun May 20 16:07:51 2001 From: william.flanagan at xxx.uk (Flanagan, William) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:07:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: suggestions for picnic & drinking before RAH gig... Message-ID: to avoid starting revision today, i've been giving the picnic & drinking before the RAH gig some thought... first we need somewhere to meet up... the simplest place i can think of is the Albert Memorial... this is an extremely large statue of Albert, which is impossible to miss because it's covered entirely in gold leaf. it's about a 4 min walk from south kensington tube station. it's in the south-east corner of kensington gardens (almost in hyde park). it's also across the road from the RAH. kensington gardens & hyde park are huge, so we should have plenty of space for a 723 a-side game of football and a picnic. small problem is that the best place for a picnic is probably on the north side of the serpentine, whereas the place set aside for football is on the south side. but this argument could be resolved on the day depending on how many people turn up. just before the gig (or in case the weather's poo), we need somewhere to drink.... 3 options: 1) Imperial College students union... next door to the RAH and v.cheap (for london). 2) the queen's arms... 2 min from the RAH, cheapish. bit small & pokey though. 3) the builder's arms... 8 min from the RAH. again reasonably cheap. 'nice' little pub. big advantage is that is does 20 different shooters (lethal cocktails in a shot glass) for a £1 each. my vote goes for my union or the builder's arms. although an indication of numbers would be helpful, because the builders arms would struggle if 50+ thirsty b&s fans descended on it on a friday afternoon. i don't have any decent suggestions for indie clubs after the gig. anyone? times... not sure... 1330 at the Albert Memorial? accommodation... if it wasn't term time, people could have stayed in the student halls which are just around the corner, but the IC students don't move out till the 1st july. therefore i suggest looking in the bayswater area which is just north of hyde park (about 15-20 min walk) and has lots of youth hostels. enough procrastination... quantum mechanics awaits... will. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sun May 20 18:08:55 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:08:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Good Golly, Miss Molly Message-ID: I feel I must explain my Molly Ringwald comment that seemed to rather upset Rachel Playforth and Jay. I sais 'What a truly marvellous woman she is (well, was)' simply because I don't know whether she is anymore or not. I know she was in some sci-fi thing on Sky One ages back but I never saw it so i don't know if she's wonderful, mediocre or aging badly. Thanks to Julie I now know she is a bitch and stuck in a timewarp of limos (white ones, at that). I always thought she looked like a bit of a sulker, but in a good, sassy way. Hugo Shannon asked if Some Kind of Wonderful is a remake of Pretty in Pink. This confused me and I had to spend some time constructing a complicated series of charts and diagrams trying to figure out the gender of the good kid from the wrong side of the tracks, the gender of the stuck up, rich love-object, and the gender of the pluckly best pal who harbours a secret love in both films. My charts are not fully conclusive, but I think SKOW is a remake but with the genders back to front. Sort of thing. If you see what I mean. All I properly know is that when I saw SKOW I had not yet had my first kiss, and I spent a long hot summer dreaming of my first kiss being just like when Keith kisses Watts in the garage. Of course, my hopes were dashed spectacularly, as hopes tend to be. Love Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Sun May 20 20:51:32 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:51:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh(i hope its not raining men) Message-ID: <20010520195132.16121.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> ooooooooops i just made the mistake of not checking my e-mails for about a week and a haf so im very sorry but i have just had to delete about 150 sinister mails sorry ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Mon May 21 03:02:33 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (m.e. curtin) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: no, i'm not from "town", but thank you for alienating me anyway Message-ID: Hello. I decided to make use of both upper and lowercase letters today. Let's see how this pans out. A certain Mr. S. Kado made mention of an all-consuming shoe finding compulsion. Oh my friend, if you only knew how I understand your pain. My case involved a life-defining mission for authentic Wallabees. Thanks to the dusty shelves of a certain Florsheim outlet store, I found them. A green pair and a brown pair - both for the price of one. Yes, the one benefit of having mallard-duck-like-sized-feet (I wasn't sure where to put the hypen so I put it everywhere) is that a girl like me can find herself some men's shoes. Not good for vanity, but for style it is crucial. Of course, that was several years ago, and now the stores are filled with cheap and unconvincing knockoffs. It really bothers me. To the point of desperation really. My newest find was a pair of bluegrey booties (think nouveau desert boots) at an odd little store in Kin-of-Cardine (in the heart of Huron County...or something like that). They make me happy. Anyway, this is not quite on-topic but is anyone else annoyed with the Moulawn pronunciation of Moulin Rouge? To say nothing of the fact that they say "Marmalawd" and not "marmalaid". Wow, funny the things that bother me. I actually spent a good fraction of my day wondering how long it took to scrape all that makeup off Christina Aguieleisiskdlealdjalara's face. On a lighter note, I was publicly called a freak by the girls behind me in the cinema (or the show, or the the-ay-tre). I was with my best friend (with whom i bear no personality resemblance - she's the blonde cheerleader type who judges potential boyfriends on how they look in a turtleneck sweater and I ... am not) and we were laughing uncontrollably at things no one else finds funny. Mind you, this was all well before the movie began. We forgot there weere other people around us, but during one lull in our mirthmaking, the girl behind me whispered "Oh my god, those two are such freaks!" Well, thanks a lot. You could tell she realized we heard it and was quite embarassed. Still, it hurt. Just because I was telling her about how my roommate and I had a sexchat racket going on doesn't give her the right to call me a freak. Speaking of sexchat rackets, I'd like to know who screens these things. My roommate was once clearly annoyed to find that one of her messages to the Grapevine (free for ladies anytime) was not admissable. In her words:"Fucking hell, I didn't even say cunt!" I hazarded a guess that her wanton use of pseudo-Christian references might have been the rationale for deleting the message. I just wonder who gets to decide what's too dirty for sex chat. I also wonder what the qualifications are for screening all those messages........hmmmm.......how positively gothic, but decidedly not freakish. Final thought. I keep automatically associating "take your carriage clock and shove it" with the marx brothers. I can't explain why. Two of my favourite things are perpetually intertwined. (ISn't intertwined slightly redundant?) Belle and Sebastian meet A Day at the Races. I know it's bizarre but it's the truth (man). You know, my inner spirituality calling out for a voice (man). Sorry, I just had to be snarky there. Truly and deeply yours (until you kick me out) Marybethhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ettirgam at xxx.com Mon May 21 04:27:30 2001 From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: point reyes Message-ID: <20010521032730.16284.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Well, there are things to say it seems...I shall miss dear Kenneth P Y Chu, but I certainly hope that the new Ken Chu might fill the void adequately, but then again, I was so full of life a year ago. Now, the only thing that really excites me is driving to San Francisco once a month for a show, which means that I need a good concert in a couple of weeks...Then there is teh "Some Kind of Wonderful" versus "Pretty in Pink" issue. As I recall, the original ending of "Pretty in Pink" was for Andie to end up with Duckie, but Molly Ringwald, reportedly did not like the ending and convinced John Hughes to have her end up making out with Andrew McCarthy in the parking lot. Of course, I too like Andrew McCarthy and would very much like to make out with said being in a parking lot, but all of this destroyed the friendship that Molly and John had developed and resulted in "Some Kind of Wonderful." John wanted to tell his story and Eric Stoltz and Mary Stuart Masterson were not really the sort of star Molly was, so even if they did want an ending where Amanda and Keith ended up making out in a parking lot, they wouldn't have won. I am sorry if this has spoiled anything for anyone, but really, if you didn't already know, you would know approximately ten minutes into each film. But I have decided that if prices in San Francisco do not go down in the next year, I might just have to move to Seattle, which is not cheap itself, but I really do like Seattle. I have no startling Belle & Sebastian news to offer, except that if you enter "Belle and Sebastian" in the little search box on cdnow, you only get the downloadable music, whereas if you enter "Belle & Sebastian" you get the album and ep listings. It is a mystery that I leave someone else to solve. And now, if no one will decide who is going to plan the picnic before Albert Hall, I might as well plan it. It might be a tad bit cohesive then, but then again, I really don't know London all that well. I know even less about Albert Hall, but people, we are intelligent enough, you should be able to decide. Which reminds me, whatever happened to a San Francisco picnic? I will settle for some other form of mad get-together, as long as there is a get-together. It is lonely in the valley when people ask what you listen to and you say, "Bands you probably haven't heard of." And the response is, "Like what?" "Oh, Belle and Sebastian is one." And the obligatory response is: "Who? Is that a duo or something." So, people in San Francisco, unless you want to get together in Stockton, Manteca, or Sacramento, please someone step forward. I would, but I much more knowledgeable when it comes to the valley. A fabulous plan would be something like Point Reyes. Anyway, I am off to finish the Simpsons and possibly consume the quesadilla that has been haunting my mind all day. Marikka. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sdf26 at xxx.edu Mon May 21 05:17:46 2001 From: sdf26 at xxx.edu (sdf26 at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: another dull first post Message-ID: <990418666.3b0896eab98d1@webmail.med.yale.edu> Sinisterians - at least those of you who choose to read this post, I've just been informed by the powers that be that my Sinister chords have been connected. Naturally I'm thrilled and, I'll confess, a bit overwhelmed. Okay, so I may have a tendency to overstate things on occassion. In any case I am pleased to briefly introduce myself. Sam is my name and I live in the US of A. More specifically, I live in the capital of the cultural vaccuum that is Western PA: Pittsburgh. At one point in the not too distant past I was studying medicine (though at the time I was dodging bullets in New Haven, rather than collapsing industries in Pgh), intending to become a neurosurgeon or something ridiculous and self-destructive like that. One morning I heard my first B&S song. The song spoke to me of freedom, springtime, fresh air, and the pursuit of things less tangible but more valuable than fame and fortune. Can you guess which song it was? Anyway, I quit medical school to study philosophy, and am now happily pursuing the most intangible ends of all. Best of all, these suckers pay me to sleep late, think a little, and teach reluctant freshmen to think logically. See, B&S changes lives. Today, a funny conversation took place. I was there to enjoy it, so I'll share it with you. Do note that "TIJAMRS" was lilting behind us: A freckly-faced friend said to a hairy, Turkish peer of ours (who we call 'Cash Money' because he's cold and hard) "You know, it just occurred to me: you remind me of Melville's Captain Ahab. Aaarggh!" The Turkish fellow had been in a particularly ornery funk, earning the comparison; even in his best of moods, however, he is loathe to be likened to such characters. He replied to the freckled fellow, "Now, that's a coincidence, since I was just thinking: you remind me of Dostoevsky's Sgt. Shithead." Eerily, the two tokens of the name 'Dostoevsky' overlapped perfectly; I was too busy laughing to point it out to the others, who know the song less well than I. Well, perhaps you had to be -as they say- there. Any other Sinisterites live in Pittsburgh, PA? You're lucky if you don't, but if you're from here, I'd love to hear from you. --Sam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremyt at xxx.au Mon May 21 07:19:40 2001 From: jeremyt at xxx.au (Jeremy Tweddle) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:19:40 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Jonathon David et al. Message-ID: <006d01c0e1be$0a6e98f0$984426cb@apm.net.au> Hello all, I'm currently at work and my day is becoming slowly more and more pointless. Excepting one point, and that is the knowledge that even mediocrity can sometimes contain genius. "What!? Has the poor fellow gone mad?" I see you ask... No, well not completely. Actually I was flicking through a copy of Captain Corelli's Mandolin (yes, the mediocre=popular book of the same name) during my lunch break and happened upon a piece of text that bore some resemblance to a B&S lyric. On page 31, in the second last paragraph is the line "Initially I did not have time to make anyone a Jonathon to my David." Personally I thought the concept of B&S finding inspiration in mediocrity an interesting one, then again I'm probably a bad gauge. Just thought you might like to know. Jeremy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From garyashwell at xxx.net Mon May 21 07:42:20 2001 From: garyashwell at xxx.net (Gary Ashwell) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:42:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: yet another very dull first post Message-ID: <005c01c0e1c1$33c28e20$6d7f01d5@v460500026> Hi, I have just been given a 'voice', so I thought I would use it so at least say Hi. I'm Gary, 26 (am I older than all of you lot??) and from Bedford, England. I only heard my first B & S song over Christmas (Modern Rock Song) and have since become totally hooked, have bought the whole back catalogue and can't wait for June 29th and the Albert Hall gig. Incidentally, I've been trying to convert my friends to B & S, with no luck- whats wrong with them?- so if anyone has any good ideas for which songs work best at converting new fans I'd be v interested to hear. Am very excited today because the new Tindersticks album is out! Hopefully it will be as good as Simple Pleasure. There seems to be quite a few Tindersticks fans on here and it seems that appropriately we have a nice sunny day to greet their new album! Anyway, can someone give me a bit more info on the picnic before the Albert Hall gig, cos I guess that would be a good opportunity to meet you all. Thanks if you bothered to read this, will post again when (or if!) I have something interesting to say! Cheers Gary +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremyt at xxx.au Mon May 21 08:28:22 2001 From: jeremyt at xxx.au (Jeremy Tweddle) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:28:22 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Enough already Message-ID: <00fb01c0e1c7$b5702120$984426cb@apm.net.au> I'm not a complete berk! It was a humourous reference to the converstation that was running a few days ago about mediocre things. I was just pointing out that some things are common to genius and mediocrity. Jeremy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon May 21 10:48:15 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:48:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Captain Corelli is a Miserable Bitch Message-ID: <004201c0e1db$563e8840$8162253e@itjfvkli> What's up? Bleeeargh! What's wrong with mediocrity? Works for me.... Clarke, Sarah J (EU) wrote: Yay, 40 minutes till I can go home and play my BASS. Bass is the best instrument of any. Last week I saw a "demos and rarities" CD by We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It. Nice to see Sarah is Keeping the Faith. Sarah was nicknamed Starry after her sunglasses and Fluffy after her bikini top. She has a "Rockin' with Rita" tattoo on her left shoulder. I shouldn't wonder. On Saturday there was a fantastic old school Sinister picnic with me, McRagtag and Elisabeth. We talked about YOU. Yes, YOU. Even if you unsubscribed ages ago. No I'm not going to any concerts unless Youn gets that grant sorted out for me. I'd like to go, but I've got a serious heroin habit to fund and I don't like to stray to far from my "pharmacist" either. The forthcoming nationwide tour by chart toppers Belle and Sebastian would be an ideal oppurtunity to shift some units of the long-awaited new edition of Papercuts. And there's no need to restrict sales to inside the concert venues, sellers could go round local pubs as well, such as The Saracen's Head opposite Barrowlands. Nice to see John Prescott sticking up for us fox lovers. Apparently his wife once rescued a baby fox cub from some fox hunters and trained it to help her in the kitchen - it uses its tail as a whisk! She lets the children lick it clean when it's finished, I believe. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon May 21 10:39:11 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:39:11 Subject: Sinister: Love is a roomful of strangers, love is a suitcase filled with danger Message-ID: Ever feel that someone has fucked you up the arse without using any lubricants? Yes. Normally I'm not into this "blah blah My name's Elizabeth/My life is shit and piss blah blah", but let me introduce you to my past week. Ladies and gentlemen... 1) Went to a doctor. He gave me pills for my stomach. Stress-releted, he said. I knew it. Two weeks of medication. 2) Called this school. Didn't get in. I've been sweating in this shithole I call "office" for 3 fucking years now. After I finished high school, I've only been working in these shitplaces, getting salary that is next to nothing. Five years ago I dispised all those people who worked in an office and didn't get anywhere with their lives. Now I'm one of those people. 3) Fast forward two days. Got dumbed by my girlfriend. Textmessage. Beeb beeb said my cellphone. "You're right, I don't want to be with you anymore." One year, three months. You see that toilet? You see the times we've spent? Now watch: Swoooosh! Knock knock? Who's there? Depression. Depression who? Your life. Fuck off. 4) Went to a party on friday to get drunk and sober my thoughts (you know how it works, don't you?). Went for a smoke. Two people were lying in the staircase, the other one bleeding like hell. I ran upstairs, where this girl was trying to call the ambulance. I ran and ran and ran through the street, trying to find some sign where I could see which street we were on. Found it. The ambulance came. Only then I realized that the guy bleeding was this friend of a friend. The other one lying there motionless on the staircase was his brother. The next day I heard the brother was in the hospital and something was wrong with his neck. This is the final day: Today they are going to decide if he's going to live or not. 5) Heard my girlfriend spent her saturday (including the night) with this guy I never really rated but now just _utterly_ dispise. The arsefucker I mentioned you before, remember? Him. This is an oldie, but: Have you ever felt that you really, really _hate_ someone? Multiply it by five, and you might understand how I feel. God bless Steve Albini And Shellac and the brilliant album 1000 hurts for giving me a way to cope with my feelings: _________________________________________________________________________ To the one true god above here is my prayer Not the first you've heard But the first I wrote Not the first, but the others were a long time ago Him ,just fucking kill him I dont' care if it hurts Yes, i do I want it to Kill him, but first Make him cry like a woman No particular woman Let him hold out Hope that Someone or other might come And fucking kill him Fucking kill him Kill him alaeady, kill him Fucking kill him Kill him, already, kill him Fucking kill hims Fucking kill him Kill him, already, kill him _________________________________________________________________________ Fuck. That's psychotic, isn't it? But it helps me, to get my aggressions out just by listening something. It really does. Try it. Goddamn it's a beautiful day. -Love and other stuff that makes you feel funny in your tummy, Jake ps: Steven Kado, be back this week with the Helsinki- info. If you still want to hear from me, that is...=) pps: God I love her. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon May 21 11:51:13 2001 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Chris Stride) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:51:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Offbeat Sheffield B&S night - Friday 1st June - full details! Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1940 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Mon May 21 12:16:24 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:16:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You came waltzing in...... Message-ID: <2604906206.990447384@pc235043.pctc.liv.ac.uk> The hilarious Peter Carter had me laughing for days, 'Shitsailor' Huh huh huh... Where did you pull that one from??? What is all this 'Mediocrity=Popularity' bollocks ? How can that possibly work, its a right waste of time even contemplating it. So im gonna stop. Oh wait... what about the Beatles, were they ever popular??? Starsailor aren't gonna be as good as the Verve or Oasis, but CHRIST if they atleast start to sell more records than the Stereophonics/MSP/Toploader et all, then it has to be a good thing. To label Starsailor mediocre is unfair and... well a bit lazy really. If Starsailor start getting records to number one it will be the best thing for music in quite a while. There a great band for the people who want a break from listening to Plaid or Autechre all the time. People like me, they keep things in perspective. Yay! thats enough of that then. Just got the limited edition single from the Music, *mumblessomethingaboutifthatsfuckingmediocrethengrumblegrumble* Guitars are back!!! Haven't you heard! Its really good anyway. Got the last two tickets to see them in Leeds playing a special gig, should be fun. Really looking foward to Scarborough, its one of the nicest sea-side towns that i have been to (Well, the nice parts) Haven't heard Jonathan, or David for that matter so that is gonna be a treat for next week hopefully. I have just realized why i dont post much, cos it's usually ends up like above. A bit of a mess. Like me really. The parade in Liverpool was lovely, just incase anyone cared. The best feeling is coming back from the brink of breaking down, cos its when you remember that we do live in a beautiful world. 'Innovations occur at the boundaries, but im stuck in the city centre' I just came up with that and you know what im rather quite proud of it. Laters Simple Troubadour +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Mon May 21 12:16:06 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:16:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You came waltzing in...... Message-ID: <2604888100.990447366@pc235043.pctc.liv.ac.uk> The hilarious Peter Carter had me laughing for days, 'Shitsailor' Huh huh huh... Where did you pull that one from??? What is all this 'Mediocrity=Popularity' bollocks ? How can that possibly work, its a right waste of time even contemplating it. So im gonna stop. Oh wait... what about the Beatles, were they ever popular??? Starsailor aren't gonna be as good as the Verve or Oasis, but CHRIST if they atleast start to sell more records than the Stereophonics/MSP/Toploader et all, then it has to be a good thing. To label Starsailor mediocre is unfair and... well a bit lazy really. If Starsailor start getting records to number one it will be the best thing for music in quite a while. There a great band for the people who want a break from listening to Plaid or Autechre all the time. People like me, they keep things in perspective. Yay! thats enough of that then. Just got the limited edition single from the Music, *mumblessomethingaboutifthatsfuckingmediocrethengrumblegrumble* Guitars are back!!! Haven't you heard! Its really good anyway. Got the last two tickets to see them in Leeds playing a special gig, should be fun. Really looking foward to Scarborough, its one of the nicest sea-side towns that i have been to (Well, the nice parts) Haven't heard Jonathan, or David for that matter so that is gonna be a treat for next week hopefully. I have just realized why i dont post much, cos it's usually ends up like above. A bit of a mess. Like me really. The parade in Liverpool was lovely, just incase anyone cared. The best feeling is coming back from the brink of breaking down, cos its when you remember that we do live in a beautiful world. 'Innovations occur at the boundaries, but im stuck in the city centre' I just came up with that and you know what im rather quite proud of it. Laters Simple Troubadour +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Mon May 21 08:37:10 2001 From: adevens at xxx.edu (adevens at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:37:10 US/Eastern Subject: Sinister: taoism makes me wanna dance Message-ID: <200105211237.f4LCbAW18859@college.antioch-college.edu> sinistereens, i don't think the supposed hum-drumness of molly ringwald is really the issue, at least not with the breakfast club. much more important is the ruining of ally sheedy's charachter at the end of the movie with her molly inspired makeover. and even sader is the fate of poor anthony michael hall who must know that ally will now be the most popular girl in school but he will forever remain an outcast cause you just can't make over boys. that said i've never seen pretty in pink or some kind of wonderful, problems which i hope to make up for soon. on a much more picnic related note i would be happy to arrange the san francisco event if all the san francisco listees would email me and tell me who they are. although as i recall there was some thought of a meetup with the la people as well. and if the washington/oregon picnic is still happening someone could tell me about that too. ;-) speaking of people who aren't nice to the elderly am i the only one who noticed that this "ken chu" just doesn't live up to his former namesake? arik this post brought to you by the letter w and the number 23. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk Mon May 21 14:54:31 2001 From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:54:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: London picnic #2 Message-ID: Hello everybody, I'm going to be bossy again. The plan for the next London picnic is as follows: Saturday 30th June, 2pm, Greenwich. It'll be a belated birthday celebration for Martin, so it's allowed to be in Greenwich. Presumably lots of you will be in London then because of the B&S gig on 29th. The sensible ones among you should also be hanging around to see camera Obscura on the Saturday night, so this is a perfect way to fill the gap in between. I don't think it matters that some poeple are planning a picnic on 29th seeing as most of us have to work for a living ;-) I am happy to be picnic mum for this one if needs be. I suppose that means I'll have to post some helpful information nearer the time. I think this is all you need to know for now though. So much for not posting for a while, I don't think this one contains too much nonsense though, Sally xx ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahnatta at xxx.com Mon May 21 14:30:13 2001 From: ahnatta at xxx.com (* carla *) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Why eat hamburger when you can eat STEAK? Message-ID: hi i never post really but i thought id contribute to the pretty in pink commentary. i totally agree that duckie gets a bum deal. whenever my friends & i would watch that movie we'd always get sooo pissed off that molly winds up with stupid rich boy in the end. we all loved duckie, you see. i found out that actually the movie was supposed to end with molly and duckie together! she was supposed to tell rich boy to fuck off and go to the prom with duckie instead. it turns out that molly ringwald made them change it cos she thought her character should have the good-looking rich guy. which kinda upset me cos until that point i always really liked her. i still do, but not as much now.. >From: "Matthew Henderson" >Reply-To: "Matthew Henderson" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Why eat hamburger when you can eat STEAK? >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:55:42 -0500 > >Hello all, > >I saw the John Hughes discussion, and I couldn't help mention something >that >has always bugged me. Does anyone else feel Duckie gets a raw deal at the >end of Pretty in Pink? Here he is, a nice guy in love with his best >friend. > She falls for some hunky rich guy whom she doesn't know, and poor Duckie >is stuck with Annie Potts. Sure, he acts like a jerk, but only because the >plot forces him to. In the end, he does the noble thing and lets her go. >What is his reward? James Spader's skanky left-overs. Are we really to >believe he just forgets about Molly for that blond 80's whore? I can't >help >but like the movie. With New Order, the Furs, OMD, and of course, the >smiths on the soundtrack, who can complain? > >The best 80's teen movie is "Say Anything..." though. I can't even begin >to >describe it's greatness. > >All you lucky UK folks! I have to wait quite some time to hear Johnathan >David and Carriage Clock. Does anyone know when they will be on John Peel? > >Peace out >-Matt >"there are more wipes than the star wipe" >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue May 22 00:24:07 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: forearm!!!! Message-ID: <3B09A397.1E4@camb.linst.ac.uk> with regards to the "kissing you elbow debate" i wouldnt take it too seriously, and attempting to reinact lyrics is dangerous. She may have been kissing the inside of her elbow, but that would have been too much of a mouthful. It seems to me that they used "elbow" because it fitted. For instance "neck" has only got one syllabul(SP?) and "bellybutton" is stupid. I had some strange dreams the other night. I dreamt that PF had purple hair and was handing round a box of grey and blue stones. we were all looking for a B&S stone but couldnt find any. I also dreamt that me and sam were lying on a bed of giant honey sandwiches and scoffing our faces. I think sinister is getting to me a bit. I bought the new tindersticks album, ive only listened to some of it but its lovely, they have a strange obsession with donkeys dont you think? Hey, roll on tonight, im gonna take a mini disc, record the gig and sell it on to other people for hard cash (that last bit was a lie). MMMM, pyramid song is amazing, ive got a promo of it with the track listing of the new album, how very exciting. one more thing, um, peter carter and sam walton, please make up. I can feel some tension mounting between you both and i dont want any of that on this site. I know that sam has feeings for peter, he just has difficulty expressing it, and im sure peter feels the same, so go on guys, kiss and make up. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RedAppell at xxx.com Mon May 21 17:10:22 2001 From: RedAppell at xxx.com (RedAppell at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:10:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: i'll be in england Message-ID: <33.15523634.283a97ee@aol.com> Hello all. This is April over here and I will be attending summer school in Cambridge this summer (im from california, usa). I am extrememly excited because my dream has come true and i will finally get to see B & S in birmingham. I will also be seeing radiohead, sigur ros, and weezer, so i think i am guaranteed some fun. It's cool to hear about the picnics, hopefully if my schedule permits, i can make it well maybe i will see some of you at the birmigham show! bye april +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon May 21 17:36:11 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:36:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Frogs on Stilts Message-ID: <3B228E31@MailAndNews.com> Hello, I am bored and has nothing better to do with my life so I thought I'd post something annoying. *carla* said: >>pretty in pink ... we'd always get sooo pissed off that molly winds up with stupid rich boy in the end. we all loved duckie, you see.<< Forget about duckie! What I always get sooo pissed off about is why she doesn't go out with ME! Grr. I have a thing about girls white limos, and white lino, too, one of the most ground breaking moments in cinematics has got to be when we got to see Molly's undies in the breakfast club. Talk about well dressed girls, I watched some ladies tennis on Eurosports today and I supported a cute Yugoslavian player, and she won, so I was quite happy. I might write her a letter and get myself arrested. I had a dream a few days ago, I was in a documentary for Stuart Pearce, the football player... it was about a defining moment when, England were playing Brazil, Stuart, being a show off, left the defensive station where he is (arguably) the best at and went up front to assist an attack, and almost helped score a goal. However, the keeper saved it, and kicked an accurate long pass to the Brazilian strikers who demolished the feeble defence (with Pearce still missing being up front) and scored a goal just before the ref blew the whistle for half time and Brazil as a result then led by 1-0. This dream was totally bizarre, and what's more bizarre was that the said football match was for some reason held at *Camber Sands*, on the beach. So I guess it has a bit of relevance to sinister. All I remembered from the dream was that it was a really emotional documentary and I almost cried at the film in the dream, in which I was the camera man. For some reason though, I became the substitute goal keeper on the second half, but I wasn't substituted in, and the original keeper was shite and I had to watch England lose 13-0 at the end. Not your average mediocre dream, cos it's an utterly pish one. I hope I have annoyed you. Undies and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: When I need a break from Autechre I listen to the sound of crushing polystyrene. ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From avalonia at xxx.com Mon May 21 17:54:52 2001 From: avalonia at xxx.com (andy warhol) Date: 21 May 2001 17:54:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: there's got to be a better song to sing Message-ID: <20010521165452.26148.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon May 21 17:58:31 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:58:31 Subject: Sinister: list abuse/declarations of love Message-ID: The wonderful Hannah Brown said: >I know that sam has feeings for peter, he just has difficulty expressing >it, and im sure peter feels the same, so go on guys, kiss and make up. Now I'm not one for public declarations, but for this I'll make an exception, so here goes: Peter, I love you and I want to marry you (sorry Hannah - it's over). I've waited too long for somebody like you. You free on Saturday? Excellent! I'll meet you at the Shoreditch Registry office, say, 3pm? Let's keep it small though - just immediate family and close friends eh? Wonderful! I'm sooo excited about it all. I've got butterflies in my tummy. We'd better start practising though Pete... ..."I do"... Right then, I'm off to choose the hymns. I'll post some photos from the special day on the Sinister website on Sunday. love, S.x P.S. Peter, do you think Robert Donlan should be our bridesmaid? It would be a beautiful choice. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Mon May 21 20:20:13 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:20:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: 2 free Dumfermline "tix" (maybe) Message-ID: Hello all! It is awfully boring here at the office. I should be doing work, but I'm not. Why is this? Why am I so completely unmotivated? Just so tired all the time... My friend has a Dreamcast game-burning business now. I don't play videogames much, but they're free! Am I a bad person? Does anybody else understand the appeal of Anime? My roommate is addicted, and I just don't understand why. It's bewildering. Anyway, I was going to go to the Dunfermline gig with my dad and sister, until they realized they hated belle and sebastian. They now feel their time would be better spent at a local pub while I am at the concert. This means that (unless something happens with my tickets, which I wouldn't rule out knowing my luck) I will have two extra tickets. If anyone wants them, they can have them. I wouldn't dare charge someone for the 'egg'sperience of seeing the greatest band in the world. That's all for now, -ttaM gnihton morf emoc sgniht emos, nothing seems to come from something _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Mon May 21 22:01:43 2001 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:01:43 +0200 Subject: Sinister: One night is not enough References: <200105200448.AAA24677@hall.mail.mindspring.net> Message-ID: <00ef01c0e239$c210d470$8d9dedc2@alex> Hi, Guess what. I'm going to see Belle & Sebastian in Royal Albert Hall. I know I'm not the first one to say this and I'm sorry if you find this mail boring :-) But anyway, I will come all the way from Sweden to see our heroes. Ok, so Sweden isn't that far from England but anyway. :-) The tickets I managed to get isn't that good I think. Apparently we (I'm going with my best friend) will only see two thirds of the stage. But who cares. I'm going to see B & S live. Yeiipii. The tickets for RAH are as good as sold out so I'm lucky to get any at all. I heard "Jonathan David" for the first time today. Oh my is that a great song or what. I got all happy and warm inside. It's a really beautiful song. Can't wait for the EP to be released. And for the Peel session to be broadcast. So anyway, looks like I'll be joining you at the London picnics. It's going to be great to meet you all (well not all but some of you anyway) in real life. So maybe I should be all predictable and bring a mixtape of ABBA-tunes. :-) But then again, I probably better not. Anyway, if anyone could recommend some cheap and nice hotels in London I would be more than grateful. ///Alexander PS. Is it a fox on the cover of the new Snow Patrol EP? No I'm afraid not. Probably a wolf or a dog DS. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon May 21 22:37:27 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:37:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bad news is better taken on bended knee Message-ID: Today, whilst wandering with few aims and less intentions, around Borders bookshop I picked up a copy of Record Collector magazine. Not sure why I did, but opening it up I saw they had their poll of readers' favourite bands. all 500 of them. Scanning down the list which started predictably with the Beatles, I noticed Belle and Sebastian in like a bullet at number... 367. Shockingly, 117 places worse off than they had been in 1999. Bands more popular than B&S included Van der Graaf Generator and Asia.(I bet that's the first time those 3 have been mentioned in the same sentence) I'm excited to be going off to glasgow for a day of Belle, Sebastian, and Buckfast for the 16th though less enamoured with the prospect of hours at the mercy of the train network. and i am even more excited at going to the Albert Hall cos it is a bit posh. I'm enjoying work despite the air conditioning going a bit wrong and making the office 38c at 10am on tuesday. On the plus side we had to be let home becasue the computer server network was not enjoying the greenhouse effect. It was like working in sauna minus all the advantages of working in a sauna. hope to see some of you at a picnic sometime P a u l _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jkananen at xxx.net Tue May 22 03:18:17 2001 From: jkananen at xxx.net (j r kananen) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:18:17 -0700 Subject: Sinister: 2 free Dumfermline "tix" (maybe) Message-ID: <006201c0e265$76fadc20$0100000a@earthlink.net> >My friend has a Dreamcast game-burning business now. I don't play >videogames much, but they're free! Am I a bad person? No no no no no, never think you're a bad person because you are foiling a corporation. You are a, well, not quite a "good" person. Remember that you are "stealing." Well, theft can be used as a measure of success in any capitalist nation. Without property, there is nothing to steal. So the more property, the more there is to steal, the more there is to steal, the more theft will take place; this is the measure of any capitalist society. So in a way, you are complimenting the corporations by showing that its property is worth theft; therefor, worth more than the corporations competitors. Believe me when I say that thieves are needed in any capitalist society. >Does anybody else understand the appeal of Anime? My roommate is addicted, >and I just don't understand why. It's bewildering. What's not to like ???? Seriously, anime is an extremely viable, and often a very deep medium. Now not all anime is "good." Shows like "Slayers," "Dragonball," and anything hentai (pornographic) are like anything, the 90% of the medium that is bad, very bad. But it cannot be denied that other shows like "Neon Genesis Evangelion," "Cowboy Bebop," "Ghost in the Shell," "Akira," and others too numerous to mention, push art forward and offer a philosophical outlook often more compelling than modern films of the day. I am a film student, and I must say that my favorite film, animated or otherwise, is "End of Evangelion," which is the theatrical conclusion to the TV series mentioned above. It outclasses most everything I've ever seen, and those that are on its level, or even above, rarely, if ever, connect with its audience in a more profound way. phew.... ok off the soapbox sorry to fill your mailbox with my musings, just had to defend Japanese Animation and thieves everywhere (Shoplifters of the world, unite and take over!) - Jason - we got heads on sticks - Radiohead Kid A +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Tue May 22 18:33:55 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:33:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: keep comin around..... Message-ID: <3B0AA303.9A@camb.linst.ac.uk> oh man, Yes, i went to see tindersticks yesterday and they were truely triffic. they played bathtime, another night in, comin around, marbles, en el biablo ( or whatever), jism, cfgf, city sickness and some others. the quality of sound was incredible. there was only one violinist but it sounded like there were four. I got to the front and was wedged inbetween, a twatty alcoholic that kept shouting "stuart" or "stooooooot" after each song and two girly girls that talked through EVERY song about hair and who was a bigger fan. But it was amazing. Stuart is a great front man and has PROJECTION to the max. He started a new song but stopped it half way through cause he said it didnt sound good enough,bless. I bought a t-shirt with "curtains" at the front and that cool rocket on the back. I also got eyed up all night by a young bloke. After every song he smiled at me, at the end he smiled again, i think he was headed in my direction but i ran away because i am taken and very happy that way. I had another b&s related dream last night but i cant remember it. (phew, now this messege is site related) I also had some exciting news, my band tape was played in a shop in covent garden and some cool girl asked the people who it was cause it sounded good. That made me chuffed cause it really is shit. Perhaps she was being carcastic. One more thing. BRIER RANDOM you are fantastic. i got your shiney package this morning and im gonna do my damdest to read it within a year. i will sent you something exciting and strange to say thank you, that really was unexpected. thats it for now ..hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_milton at xxx.com Tue May 22 13:18:52 2001 From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: isn't it a beautiful day! Message-ID: <20010522121852.29794.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> What do you mean who is that??? It's me!! Och its been so long that no-one remembers me at all. Well.. reintroductions then... My name is Neil, 22yrs old and I play guitar in a band called Troika. Anyway.. my lifes events have been wide ranging and varied since I last posted to sinister. Jesus! B+S have announced a tour! I thought I saw God that day! Well at the very least I saw a Dog! I don't even remember the last time I posted but I have been so busy with the band, work and desperately trying not to split up with my girlfriend that most of the sinister mails have been getting deleted without even being read! A damn shame cause I'm sure I've missed a whole lot of stuff! So whats been going on with you all...? I hope you are all well... B+S PICNICS!!! We need to get one sorted for edinburgh this year! I had one of the most fun days of my life last year. I wanna meet you all again (well some of you at least ;o) ) GIGS!!! well I've got quite a few gigs coming up.. I can't wait!! Thursday night I'm gonna see muse!!! Yay! June has thrown up loads... *Teenage Fanclub *my band (at last we're back!!!) *Travis *neil young and *Belle and Sebastian!!! Fantastic! I cannae wait for june! PEACOCK JOHNSON! I'm gonna buy the book on thursday and I've already had a wee look at the website. How bizarre. Nalda said is one of my favourite books of all time and I'm kinda nervous about buying this new one. Will i like it. It seems so much different from the first. I guess I just need to keep an open mind about it and hope that I like it. Can't decide what T-shirt to buy though. FUCK STUART DAVID or FUCK PEACOCK JOHNSON lol. I heard Jonathan David the other night. WOW! I love it! I've just had a wee look at the sinister website for the first time in an age... I found the pictures.. I'll have to send honey mine. I'm not gonna say who it is, but there is a girl on there that if I met her... I'd be knocked over with a feather... Very sweet! Very pretty! Before I go... some hellos I think... AMY JACKSON! My surrogate wee sis! I'm coming to Edinburgh soon! I promise. I love you and miss you so much! Take care of yourself and make sure that paul bloke is being nice to you! ;-) ANDY BONAR!!! I love you man! Thats all I'll say! You are the best f*ckin' singer in the known world! YO!!! GAYLE!!! SWEETIE!!!! You'll never believe me when I tell ya that i lost your moby number again... AARRGGHH!!! What a plank I am! Send me an email soon.. and I'll either phone you or txt u. JASON ANDREAS!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!!!??? I MISS YOU! EMAIL ME/PHONE ME! JEN OWL!!! AARRGGHH I haven't seen that red cape coat thing for ages... :) ladies and gentlemen, I thank you. good night. neil.x. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton at yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From killholden at xxx.com Tue May 22 12:54:51 2001 From: killholden at xxx.com (pablo espinoza) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:54:51 Subject: Sinister: swiss boy, swiss girl Message-ID: THIS MESSAGE WAS INSPIRED BY ANOTHER LISTEE -thanks or sorry or both. this is total list abuse but here it goes... does anyone live in switzerland, around zurich. if you do would you be at all interested in showing me around as i will be visiting in may,june, july and am slightly intimidated by the complete different-ness of the culture. I'm from los angeles and trying to fill myself with anything other than L.A./American coolness before i get back to hit the books in the fall. I'd be happy to meet you most anywhere. If you respond i'll send you a phone # and other info. hopefully, pablo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue May 22 14:58:33 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:58:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Footie! Tonight! Message-ID: Hello all, This is just a reminder that the inaugural Sinister football meet-up is taking place THIS EVENING in London's trendy Regent's Park - ten or so of us are confirmed, but if there's anyone out there who didn't know about it who'd like to come along, then please do - we'll just be having a kickabout really, and none of us are any good. We're meeting at 7 pm at the Baker Street entrance to Regent's Park - we'll be the ones not looking quite as athletic as everyone else. And more twee. Possibly. (and if you'd like to find out about future footie occasions, please join our mailing list at sinisterfitba-subscribe at yahoogroups.com - ta!) Markx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Tue May 22 15:18:06 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:18:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You know who to turn to now everythings changed... Message-ID: <2702208705.990544686@pc235062.pctc.liv.ac.uk> The comment bout Autechre was actually very funny. Good stuff, whoever said it. Bridesmaid?? Hmm as long as you promise you have thought it through, i don't want you rushing into this... Marriage is a very big step foward you know... The prospect scares the hell out of me. I reckon weddings should never be your own. Unless...no. That's far too sinister. Does anyone actually buy toasters other than for wedding presents? The grill is more than adequate at making toast. I don't know... some people. Going to watch Clearlake soon. They make great songs for summer days. The summer is here it must be... 3 bar-be-ques in two days. Alf Stewart would be proud... Why do all the pretty girls come out when it is sunny? What do they do for the rest of the year? Lay on sun beds? Practice pouting? Not complaining mind, either my hair is getting too long or im in demand...Ooh just think Is Hannah Brown going to be at the wedding? You know, just wondered... Laters Simple Troubadour +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Tue May 22 19:12:54 2001 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:12:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: forearm!!!! Message-ID: Hannah Brown said; >MMMM, pyramid song is amazing, ive got a promo of it with the track listing >of the new album, how very exciting. > Fukking amazing. I think the album is so good I want to die (well yeah i know, exagurating). Fave tracks of the moment: packt like sardines in a crushd tin box, and life in a glass house. Soo good. It is weird because all but a couple of those songs have been floating around on the internet for a long time, it is just that they were live versions. I am so happy to hear the studio recordings because, quite frankly, they are a million times better. It's loads better than Kid A. Um I just had to say that, time for some food. Maximum Love, Johan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Tue May 22 19:11:56 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:11:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ummm.... Message-ID: <20010522181902.ORKX283.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.118.28]> My first post! I hate it when people put exclamations in stuff like that or in brackets (!) anyhow, have been saving up what seemed like interesting titbits for my first post but all of them have deserted me or seem hopelessly inadequate now that it comes to typing them out. Continuing the whole covers debate, I reckon that they should do a reggae cover like of "No woman no cry" or if not that then some hip-hop track with Isobel rapping in her nice little scots voice. No other takers? oh well... I might buy one of Peter Carter's t-shirts if they were nice cloth and really cheap (like £1 or sommat) but I'd prefer a B&S one but don't know where I could get one (that senetence had too many buts and ands in it for my liking) This whole stepping on three drain covers thing has suddenly sprung upon me from no-where. Until just over a month ago I had never in my life heard of this piece of superstition and then I met some girls who did it and now it seems all of sinister does so how did it pass me by? They weren't even very twee girls. One was a goth and the other carried a bag with all this stuff tied on like mangled toys, huge safety pins and with Incubus, Succubus, Slipknot and Rage Against the Machine scrawled all over it in black marker pen. They(the girls) were a bit scary but I really liked them after a bit of prolonged exposure. will cut the rest short so as not to bore anyone but could someone mail me off list with where I could get a B&S t-shirt, joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vilkas at xxx.com Tue May 22 19:34:32 2001 From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:34:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: You know who to turn to now everythings changed... Message-ID: <200105221831.OAA18445@hall.mail.mindspring.net> >From: ROBERT DONLAN >Does anyone actually buy toasters other than for wedding presents? The >grill is more than adequate at making toast. I don't know... some people. Y'all, Ok, this is Ms. Vilkas coming to you from the peanut gallery. I'd like to publicly defend the toaster. Toast is one of mankind's highest acheivments, and the toaster in it's slotted and oven forms is the best newfangled, modern, tool for the job. Ok. I had toast with butter, a green apple, and coffee for breakfast this morning. Lovin you and leavin you like a slow jam, Ms. Vilkas Today's soundtrack: Soulfly & JJ72 back and forth. I think everybody should listen to more Soulfly. I would write more, but I'm afraid I've nothing else to say other than this taost talk, and yes I know there's a list for toast and yes I'm on it...but this is a response to this list so that's it. I think. Nope. Just a little bit more. Are any of you going to any of the "one in four" shows? It's sunny. I'm going outside. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Wed May 23 03:53:49 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:53:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: take jonathan and shove david Message-ID: <002501c0e334$078783a0$b95201d5@aqlzosqt> i keep getting carriage clocks mixed up with grandfather clocks, and envisioning very painful scenes (well, more painful - i don't suppose a carriage clock is something one wants shoved anywhere either, especially if it's one of those ones with the big gold balls...) a higher power has been at work, leading me to buy one more b&s ticket than i turned out to need, just so i could be the means of getting the superlative (indeed, i have a strong urge to say 'most superlative') ailsa ross (that's *Ailsa Ross*) to the albert hall. how have we done without her? bass players: the circles in which i move these days led me to some sort of reggae event last night. my conviction that all bass players are always a) the most attractive and b) the coolest member of any given pop combo (ok, this was mostly because i had a teenage crush on alex james) was severely shaken by the white jeans and accountant's hair of last night's bassist. convictions - not all they're cracked up to be. i won a holiday on a scratch card last week. i think i have to pay for the flights though which is crap because prizes are meant to, you know, *save* you paying for stuff. plus i have to save up for CANADA. yup, if i talk like i'm going for long enough then maybe i will actually get off my arse and do it. went to see margaret atwood read on sunday, yet another vicarious canadian experience... mmm, canada. recommendations for kate from chicago: going on the fact(s) that you like b&s and hefner, you should listen to ANT. ANT is good. yay ANT. etc. ant is in hefner. but sounds more like b&s. so you can't lose really. thanks to david moore for this link www.antpop.com i agree with arik that ally sheedy's makeover in the breakfast club is one of cinema's greatest crimes. from rock goddess to poodle in 3 minutes. hidden message: smoking marijuana is bad as makes unwary teenagers commit acts of brutality with blusher. good to see jarkko back, though in perhaps less happy circumstances than we would wish for him. cheer up jake - nothing a bit of healthy debate and faux eighties nostagia won't solve i'm sure. (for more jarkko, see www.buzzwords.org.uk. sorry if anyone is waiting for the site to be updated by the way, my esteemed colleague at buzzwords HQ is selling his mum's house, and obviously it's a big job trying to do it without her noticing.) i bought the *first* tindersticks album in oxfam today. just to be contrary. the whole of the above post tells me that i have completely lost the art of the graceful segue since leaving university. short paragraphs, however, are good. any step further away from being henry james is good. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Tue May 22 20:16:58 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:16:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: Round two. Message-ID: Greetings Sinister folk. I'm hiding out in my cavernous, cool home now, with great relief, listening to a killer B&S mixed tape. The Troubador said: "Why do all the pretty girls come out when it is sunny?" Ha! Wouldn't you like to know what they did the rest of the year? I think it's true, although, round these parts, all the pretty girls are quite plastic and bleached to faux sun perfection, and they only come out at night in their go-go boots. It's terribly pathetic. I do not claim to be one of them; I hide out inside when it's sunny, lest I be burnt to a crisp. And as for toasters and weddings. . . well. I abhor toasters. If I don't like the people, I'll get one for them. And while I really don't know the suddenly betrothed listees all that well, I think I'd probably send them something else. . . maybe an ashtray, at the very least. Perhaps a lifesize Molly Ringwald blow-up, if such a thing could still exist, and let them have at it. My freedom is about to be seriously curtailed; I am jobless no more. Next Tuesday, I start work at the University, and school, once again. I am a slave to the scholarly arts. I will miss loafing around, desperately, but I am determined to, finally, finish up this degree. All the lovely useless things I've been able to do for the past few months. . . sigh. This is the second round of higher education for me, the first having been a four-year drinking extravaganza, among other things. Well, here goes again. Anyway, love to you all. S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ailsa_ross at xxx.com Tue May 22 21:13:13 2001 From: ailsa_ross at xxx.com (Ailsa Ross) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:13:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Superlative? Shurely shome mishtake? Message-ID: Good God. Not even poked my head round the nursery door, having been away for more months than I care to remember, and already I'm being described as superlative. Has it been like this all the time I've been away? I should go away more often. Er, hello. I'm Ailsa, erstwhile moaner of this parish. I'm not married yet, but I will be soon. I still haven't heard Jonathan David, as I now listen to Radio Two as befits an old nearly-married woman. Radio Two rocks as they played the Trash Can Sinatras once, which is more than Radio One ever do. They haven't played B&S yet when I've been listening, though Ken Bruce does play the Smiths, which is nice. Archel is much more superlative than I am. And I don't have a first class honours degree in English so I'm allowed to use grammatically incorrect phrases like "much more superlative" (superlatively superlative?). Yay, I'm going to the Albert Hall, which is just great. Do people still say "grate" round here, or is that a bit passe? God, I feel like a stranger round these parts. Are people pointing at me and laughing? Since I came back, people have been talking a lot about Pretty in Pink and the Breakfast Club, which is A GOOD THING. Rachel, who is my new favourite person in the world, said >hidden message: smoking marijuana is bad as makes unwary teenagers commit >acts of brutality with blusher. It also makes Emilio Estevez dance in a way which makes me wonder what it was he was *really* smoking. I used to quite like Emilio Estevez when I was young - I think it was his unrequited love for Andie McDowell in St Elmo's Fire which did it. I'm quite a sucker for the unlucky in love. Especially when they try hard. Ducky deserved to be on his own for not trying hard enough. I like losers who end up winning in the end. It kind of restores your faith, even if it hardly ever happens in real life, only in Frasier and Dawson's Creek. Now I've remembered why I left Sinister the last time. It's bloody hard to post anything interesting. I think I'll off and lurk again. Ailsa xx By the way, what's the big deal with slagging off the Saracen's Head? It's a lovely pub, and has Buckfast on an optic behind the bar. If people want a pre-Barrowlands pub, can I suggest McChuills on High Street? It has tons of space, walls decorated in album sleeves for vinyl trainspotters, and a table football table like Joey and Chandler's. And it's just round the corner from the Barrowlands. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowyminor at xxx.com Tue May 22 22:23:29 2001 From: snowyminor at xxx.com (Michelle R.) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Well with your bad knee Ed, you shouldn't throw anybody. Message-ID: <20010522212329.2018.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> Hellos I haven't posted in like 4 months! Wow. Obviously now is the best time to come out of my hibernation(not that I was to begin with...I was just lazy). Anywho...to all of you who are seeing Belle and Sebastian: You bastards. Nah really I love you all it's just I'm insanely jealous ;) I don't have the money to be spending on trips to England so there goes that option. One of you should bum rush the stage...that would be a sight, especially at Albert Hall. Although I've never been there so who knows if they have frightening security around the stage. Or not. I'm saving up for concerts and an apartment this summer. Although I keep reading horoscopes that say I'm going to be skint. Well, I'll try my darndest. The Radiohead concert will, no doubt, cost a pretty penny when they come. I'm also seeing Julieta Venegas which isn't cheap either. She's amazing...I recommend you all buy her album "Buen Invento." Although the language barrier puts people off when it comes to Spanish music. I don't understand why, if you're all nuts for the French music (so am I, but hey). Well I'm going to see B&S on the West Coast if that's where they will only choose to play...so saving up for that as well. Thus, I will be eating bread and water this summer! People have been talking about John Hughes/the 80's which is great. I get so happy everytime I see any of his films. I guess because it's like deja vu when I see them. I also keep trying to remember the show Grace the secretary from "ferris Bueller's Day off" was in...I know she was called Mrs. Pool (The Hogans?). It's a strange thing to think about, I know, but it's been a re-occuring topic in my head! I think someone also mentioned Jem a while ago which was a bad ass show. Anyone remember "The Littles?" Thinking back, that was a twee show of sorts. Then again I'm inclined to think anything with cute elf people is. There was alot more I was going to say but I can't remember. Oh well. Michelle mitten __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Wed May 23 00:37:50 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:37:50 -0400 Subject: this is otis. i love otis Re: Sinister: Superlative? Shurely shome mishtake? References: Message-ID: <001701c0e318$37503ee0$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Ross" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Sinister: Superlative? Shurely shome mishtake? once, which is more than Radio One > > Since I came back, people have been talking a lot about Pretty in Pink and > the Breakfast Club, which is A GOOD THING. Rachel, who is my new favourite > person in the world, said > > >hidden message: smoking marijuana is bad as makes unwary teenagers commit > >acts of brutality with blusher. > > It also makes Emilio Estevez dance in a way which makes me wonder what it > was he was *really* smoking. I used to quite like Emilio Estevez when I was > young - I think it was his unrequited love for Andie McDowell in St Elmo's > Fire which did it. I'm quite a sucker for the unlucky in love. Especially > when they try hard. Ducky deserved to be on his own for not trying hard > enough. I like losers who end up winning in the end. It kind of restores > your faith, even if it hardly ever happens in real life, only in Frasier and > Dawson's Creek. > i feel i must respond to this. while i agree that few things are more crushing than driving an unreliable car through snow to find your beloved shacked up in the woods with steve, you *know* that was really his name, that's the american version of "marco", *but*.....ducky didn't try hard enough? i dare say he tried *too* hard. he went too far. at least in andie's eyes. and it blew up in his face, much like the little can of tiny borders mints i was just trying to open. i think his undoing was shifting from the positivity of his love to his hatred of *blaine*. they're both rooted in the same thing, but everyone knows you don't win too many points with anger in these situations. *however*, he did not deserve kristy swanson while that major appliance was somehow deemed redeemable. i was angry when i walked out of that theater 15 years ago, even though i wasn't quite sure why, being ten and somewhat inexperienced, and i'm still angry. i bet jon cryer is too. "but john, i wanna make out with andrew at the end of the movie, not *jon*." and look at what karma did to her for that fateful decision. "playing for keeps"....."fresh horses"......."townies" yet despite myself i'm still completely gaga over the woman. she's aged superbly and looked fantastic in interview last year. sorry to hear about the white limos though. that *is* a bit gauche. always a duckman, jay "how can i turn the other cheek? it's black and bruised and torn" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Wed May 23 03:32:39 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 03:32:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If we weren't in school right now I'd waste you. Message-ID: <002401c0e330$a84e1a00$6700000a@infotrek.co.uk> My heart was warmed by the delightful comments made about my last humble offering, but that only increases my anxiety now. I have just arrived home after a night visiting friends, which undoubtedly means I should keep my lips sealed and my vision blurred, but I have decided to do neither, and try and muse about John Hughes, amongst others. I can't just sit mutely by while Duckie's fate at the end of Pretty in Pink and the Ally Sheedy makeover are discussed. I must say something. So, since people can be masters of their own destiny, I will. First off all, the secretary in Ferris Bueller's Day Off was also in a Cheech and Chong film (I don't remember which one. They're all the same, so I suppose it doesn't particularly matter). Her acting abilities were stretched almost beyond the realm of human capability, certainly into a region Stanislavski never envisioned, by performing as a twee Midwestern housewife with a nasal voice. She got stoned with Cheech and Chong, drove around in a Rolls Royce, and went to see a Pee Wee Herman show. It was all crap. While I have nothing but fondness for John Hughes and his 80's films, let us not forget that he is also the man responsible for Home Alone and, more obscurely yet not less unforgiveably, Curly Sue. Also, is there not something slightly dubious about a man well into his thirties spending his time surrounded by a crop of adolescent actors and actresses who quickly slid into a miasma of booze and wanton sex? No wonder Anthony Michael Hall became and alcoholic and Ally Sheedy a neurotic anorexic. Nevertheless, his films a super. And yes, Ally Sheedy's make-over was a travesty. When I first watched the film, having gradually become fixated on her (I even wrote her a letter in my capricious and ludicrous youth), it felt like a knife was plunged into my heart as I saw her coming out of the office where that little minx Clare had performed her evil deed. Forcing the shaggy haired girl to conform, to go out with the stupidest character in the whole film, leaving poor Brian Johnson (not Rogers) standing in the library on his own! But enough of all that: what about Weird Science? It may have taken John Hughes only two days to write, but it's still a bit, only a small bit, you understand, of a classic. Kelly le Brock's hair alone is worth noting; it's like a great big teased fountain spurting from the crown of her head, levitating above her scalp. And what about Sixteen Candles? Finally - I will say no more on this subject, I promise, although my record of keeping promises is not good - I need to mention The Wild Life. It's sort of the Las Vegas of teen films - absolutely awful, but triumphant on the grounds of shamelessness alone. It has Rick Moranis, Chris Penn, Ilan Mitchell-Smith (who seems to have vanished off the face of the planet, which is probably, bless his little inept actor heart, for the best), and Lea "Calvin...he's a dream-boat" Thompson. Could a film need anything more? Could the world, in fact, need anything more? 5 paragraphs on 80's teen films is probably enough to last a lifetime. I am ashamed; after all the talk of being low-brow, I have outdone myself. I should probably go and read a biography on David Beckham now, or simply slit my wrists. I will put them in hot water to stop the blood from clotting, and no one will find me until morning. I will be drained and pale like I always wanted to be, with a little note at my side blaming it all on Don't You Forget About Me by The Simple Minds. That was all a bit morbid, wasn't it? Instead, perhaps I should go upstairs, eat some food, recollect myself, and read a bit of Baudelaire. Yes, I think that would be entirely the more sapient choice. Or perhaps watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High...... Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DanMetcalfe at xxx.com Wed May 23 09:31:25 2001 From: DanMetcalfe at xxx.com (Dan Metcalfe) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:31:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Get Fresh (for summer) Message-ID: <003401c0e362$c2416660$ed00000a@ROUNDHAY> {lest us not forget the scene where Andy has it out with Harry Dean Stanton over his denial of her mother's death - man that's a lump in the throat/trickle a tear moment} I'm reading Slyvia Plath's 'The Bell Jar' at the moment & wow is it good. The main character reminds me a bit of B&S, or at least the people in their lyrics (eg. Emma in '...modern rock song'). Hmmm, that kind of 'me against the world (or society's constructed notions or something)' thing that she has. Though I'm not sure if there's any sub-text going on yet (I often need them pointing out), which might supersede this rebel thang. So there's a recommendation for ya. Well, it turns out that someone has snapped up the last 2 seats in our box at RAH, grrr! Only kidding - the two guys who had not got off their arses to phone for tickets aren't that big fans (late fate be their judge) & they can go to the Scarborough gig anyway. So a big Yorkshire hello to our box 24 chums! argh! - I finished my Ribena. huzzah! - the morning is still sunny. We *may* have a warm UK summer (shock horror). I only did English at GCSE, so you'll find my posts are full of (parenthesis (of (all kinds>}) - more of a science boy you see. T-ra, Dan. me and my baby doll, never went to the beach. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil_milton at xxx.com Wed May 23 14:01:52 2001 From: neil_milton at xxx.com (Neil Milton) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: get out of the sunshine and into the office! Message-ID: <20010523130152.16828.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> AARRGGHH God damn it!!! I got to go to work in an hour! ah.. the splendour of aol technical support. Better help these poor souls in distress lest they not have internet access for a mere matter of minutes! I got my B+S tickets in the post today so I thought it warranted a post to the list... mobile hasn't stopped beeping all day... yep I said beeping... I have one of those arcane models (hahaha arcane model, I was just reading back over the message and noticed a delgados reference without even meaning it!) that looks like it might have been handed to moses from God on the mount! Its the size of a brick for crying out loud!!!! It spent a night under three feet of snow last year! Went to look for it the next morning and all you heard was this ridiculously muffled beeping! Still works too! PICNICS! I know I wrote this yesterday, however are we actually gonna organise some for the summer? Why is it I think about this more when the sun is streaming in my front room? FOOTBALL I read with interest that some of you guys from london have a footy tourney. Sounds way cool. Do we do anything like that up here in Glasgow? If not.. we should! Anyone fancy it? So... what a feeling it is for a guy incredibly low in self-confidence to have a very pretty girlfriend, and also to find out that a girl at work has a major crush on him! Melikes my life just now however methinks I wont tell girlfriend about said girl! Girlfriend may get paranoid! So the sun is out and it tends to bring two dispirate types of people out into the centre of glasgow! We have the 'studenty' types... (I hate that term - but you know what i mean!) Damned attractive girls in their vest tops and flares... its a joy to walk round town (if this sounds sexist i apologise but i think everyone knows what I mean!) until... the second group catches yer eye... those bastard neds with their t-shirts off and hanging from the inside of their waistband! Why is it men have the annoying habit of assuming the are immediately attractive to all animals the minute they strip to the waist! Methinks Not! I now have an guru! How cool is that!? Stuff to do tonight and tomorrow night if you're doing nothing else and you happen to be in the glasgow area! Tonight! - Soundtrax @ 13th note club! bunch of musicians get together and perform music as a soundtrack to a piece of film. Amongst others tonight pour vos plaisir, will be the flaming mongrels (andy from Troika, Colin from Squander Pilots, and Paul from Single point of light), and as far as I've been led to be aware, ultimo dragon. Tomorrow night! - Madonna tribute night @13th note Club! bunch of musicians who really should know better get together and play madonna songs in original and surprising ways for some sort of kitsch enjoyment! playing are (and again I'm led to believe) Akira, a troika/house collaboration, and also My Legendary Girlfriend. Lots of fun to be had all round! oh.. lest i forget! Judy, ACTUALLY IS a dickslap! (judy will now beat me up!) Neil.x. Listening to... anything remotely B+S related Reading... Julian Cope's Autobiography, Head on. (Uh! Look Out!) current mood: confused but contented. ===== "I took a wrong direction, from a shooting star" Sparky's Dream - Teenage Fanclub ------------------------------------------------------ Neil Milton; neil_milton at yahoo.com; ICQ:77866398 Troika - http://www.troikaonline.co.uk 2mf - http://www.geocities.com/tmfpromo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ilovelarrythefrog at xxx.com Wed May 23 17:28:17 2001 From: ilovelarrythefrog at xxx.com (Larry The Frog) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: another first post I am afraid Message-ID: <20010523162817.16441.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone I have just been released from the nursery! How exciting! I think I am the first frog on Sinister (not the first animal though as Rosetta the cat might still be around) My name is Larry and I am a frog; I am Mike and Elena's flatmates also. Elena feeds me chip and Guinness and also made me meet some of you lovely people so here I am. Well you are not all lovely though, I have been called "plastic dinosaur" and more horrible stuff a few times; it really makes me feel upset you know. Being a frog these days is not much fun as it is not raining all the time anymore. I used to spend most of my days out in the garden getting wet, how great. However it seems that all the people living in my house kept moaning about the rain: these humans don't know what the good things are. Also they seem to have loooong talk about things but not end up with any conclusion. In the house here they keep going on about music all the time. Debates include "Take That are the ultimate boy's band", "REM are not shite", "Britney Spears cannot be a virgin" and more. And also a permanent discussion to know if the Dome chips are better than Mister Fast Fry chips. I think the Dome wins, but then I am a frog I don't know anything. I can hear Elly moaning about her exams and asking for some more tea, I'd better go until she beats me (she does you know) Bien a vous, Larry the Frog __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lastaristide at xxx.com Wed May 23 17:52:51 2001 From: lastaristide at xxx.com (denial wil) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:52:51 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I hope to add to the confusion involving Grace from the little Ferris Bueller movie. If my memory serves us well she played the neighbor named Bonnie in the 80's television show "small wonder". The show revolved around a robot girl named VICI (voice input child identicant)and her families desire to keep VICI's history a secret. The show was basically an ALF rip-off with a robot playing the part of the alien. I only remember this show because I thought VICI was so very cute and this was so very very wrong.......humans and robots can never be in love, or so I was told. goodbye. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed May 23 18:13:10 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: exams, fanzines and fantastic bands Message-ID: <20010523171310.5205.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> Yay! Hi all. Top band I must recommend to you ALL at once, cos I saw them last night, and they have a new single out and are fantastic and get airplay on John Peel... Bearsuit. They've got a single called "Hey Charlie Hey Chuck" which is fantastic, simply cos its all jangly, pop, bouncy, cool and pleasurable, as well as having a few moments in it where you can just really let your hair down and jump a bit harder (provided your mum doesn't come knocking on your door to complain about the ceiling in the livingroom collapsing.) Went to see them last night at the Norwich Arts Centre. They were great, in the midst of a pleasant summer, and what with loads of bands going all post-rock these days.... Now theres nothing wrong with that, but you know, it does get a bit blah blah blah.... Good fun. Its available from their label Sickroom GC and its distributed by pinnacle. Go and hassle that nerdy looking bloke in your nearest record shop now to order it in. I have nothing to gain by telling you all this. But you know, it really is brilliant, and will probably appeal to B+S fans most of all. Just for the pure pop pleasure of it all. I have an exam on Friday. Hmm. Lets leave that alone, shall we. Oh, and we finally managed to get the "Point Of Ioslation" fanzine sorted out. We sold quite a lot on its debut night last night at the gig. At first, we asked folk if they wanted to buy it. Then one or two did, and they sat and read it. And then all their pals began to approach us asking to buy copies. Then people in the bands who played (Life without buildings, Aereogramme, Bearsuit) bought copies too. Then we over heard people discussing articles in it among themselves. Thats not something that people *usually* do when they buy a fanzine, is it? Or am I the only one to shove it to the bottom of my jacket pocket/handbag/ safeways carrier and then discover it months later looking crumpled up when I was looking for something else entirely.. (usually enough change to buy a packet of ciggies) I have to say, I was a bit nervous about what people might make of it. It was basically my little baby, and I wanted each copy to go to an appreciating, loving home. It's quite cheap as well, only 70p, which we reckoned was a pretty good deal, for a fanzine. We are pretty pleased with it, cos its got cool interviews with Jeff Mueller (rodan, June of 44, shipping news), Bearsuit, and various other bands get given the chance to prove their value, alternative horoscopes, reviews, a thing about Husker Du, news, a fantastic feature on droplifting (oposite of shoplifting... v. clever idea) and all sorts of other things. I think its been a learning process anyway. We've decided to give free copies to everyone in the university society. I feel a bit sad now, though, on an anti climax cos we've got it done. I wish I'd been able to get some blue peter badges, cos I really fancied the idea of giving away free blue peter badges with each issue. Hmm. I suppose that will just have to wait until we have found a mole who is corrupt enough and works at BBC TV. Hmm. One day.... one day.... Anyway, I was just feeling quite pleased with myself, and thought you should all know why. :) Cheers berryidle ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Wed May 23 18:48:00 2001 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:48:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: a dream Message-ID: <200105231748.KAA04076@mail6.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sebastian at xxx.com Wed May 23 18:48:12 2001 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:48:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: a dream Message-ID: <200105231748.KAA04107@mail6.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From declan63 at xxx.com Wed May 23 19:31:16 2001 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:31:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: what's the opposite of nostalgia? References: Message-ID: <002d01c0e3b6$8e04b4c0$6501a8c0@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "denial wil" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:52 PM > I hope to add to the confusion involving Grace from the little Ferris > Bueller movie. If my memory serves us well she played the neighbor named > Bonnie in the 80's television show "small wonder". The show revolved around > a robot girl named VICI (voice input child identicant)and her families > desire to keep VICI's history a secret. The show was basically an ALF > rip-off with a robot playing the part of the alien. I only remember this > show because I thought VICI was so very cute and this was so very very > wrong.......humans and robots can never be in love, or so I was told. > goodbye. and here i thought i was the only one who remembered this show. come on, sing the theme with me! then again........ this was also the era of the new gidget and........."out of this world" was it? the show about the mother, who i think was patti d'arbanville, who was actually an alien. you know the song..."would you like to swing on a star? whoa whoa whoa carry moonbeams home in a jar....." sorry about that. those two were mildly depressing late saturday morning shows, signaling the start of the boring saturday afternoon, which they usually were if you were 12 or 13. "small wonder" was on sunday afternoons, which made it all the more worse, just to tell you that you were still bored *and* you now had to go back to school soon. middle school is not something i remember fondly at all. oh, by the way, "grace"'s name is edie mcclurg. she was indeed ubiquitous. jay "finally through the roof" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhm0crw at xxx.UK Wed May 23 22:11:09 2001 From: jhm0crw at xxx.UK (C.R. Walker) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:11:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: There is nothing interesting enough in this post to put as its s Message-ID: Hey there everyone! Woaw - this is really strange. Like loads of other people seem to be recently, I am a new person who has just been granted the power of speech, so here I am. It's probably a lot more exciting for me than it is for you though. I'm Chloe.. (or Cloy; or CloyBoy; or even just Boy sometimes, which never seems to make that much sense, but hey.) I'm 19. And don't have much to say really. I've got an exam tomorrow, but I'm not that bothered about it really. It's the whole "37%" thing. Somehow I still feel guilty for not being stressed out, but there is really no need, so... why? I'm just gonna enjoy my state of non-stressedness while it lasts, I think. I'm quite jealous of everyone who's heard Jonathan David, coz I still haven't. I also still heven't sorted out what I'm gonna do about gigs... They're not all sold out already are they? Coz that would just be typical of me. Okay, I'll go away and stop boring you now. Byeee! Chloe.. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed May 23 21:45:49 2001 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:45:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Utilitarianism Message-ID: <01052321454900.00378@hammy> Hello children... How's things? I had a really shockingly dull exam called General Studies this morning. I hated it, they gave us sample exam papers a couple of weeks ago to practise and they were piss, but this morning they gave us difficult papers with difficult questions, Like what the fuck is "Utilitarianism". Christ. Bassists are great. Particularly Alex James. I'm not surprised Archel had a crush on him - he does cool basslines. I can play Girls and Boys! It's lots of fun. And Beetlebum, which isn't so much fun, but it's still cool. And REM are not shite. Well not completely. Their new song iss nice anyway and has a cool video (I watch too much MTV). The Beatles were very popular, and, let's face it apart from of a few of the Lennon songs they were pretty damn mediocre - not bad, but mediocre compared to the Velvet Underground, who rock. I wrote about them in my exam (there was an art section and I know nothing about art unless you count pop music, which I don't know much about either). The question was about styles of art, so I just wrote some drivel about experimental music...drugs and sex....pictures of bananas etc. I'm kind of in a band at the moment, it's called Penfold. I prefer to play bass but they've got me on rythm guitar (probably because their current bassist knows how sexy it makes him looks, but it's not fair - he doesn't need it he's already got a girlfriend (she's the drummer)). We don't have many songs but the bassist did one about lesbians - it's all about how great it would be to get stuck in a lift with lesbians. I can't remember the verse but the chorus goes: Going down and they're going down, Going down and they're going down, Going down and they're going down On each other.... And he sings like N'Sync on the verse but goes all poosailor indie rock in the chorus and then makes fake orgasm noises after the second verse. Well I find it amusing anyway.. I should just grow up. My B&S tickets are apparently in the post hurrah, I hope this strike doesn't poo them up. Byebye my love James "(i'm waiting for) the man" Thorniley "But she never lost her head, even when she was giving head - she says: `Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side' " --Lou Reed +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.matson at xxx.com Wed May 23 22:43:52 2001 From: mark.matson at xxx.com (Mark Matson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:43:52 +1200 Subject: Sinister: there is a light that never stays on Message-ID: <3B0C2F18.A5A9F2C8@peace.com> hello, it's me, mark, from auckland, new zealand. the third sinistunian from aotearoa I think? (that has posted, anyway). although in october i will be travelling around thailand with a friend for a month, and then heading over to london to check out what's going on. i know it sounds aimless, but my aim was never any good anyway. i thought i might stay in london for a while and maybe start/join a band, so if there are any other aimless musicians out there, feel free to get in touch. i play the rhythm guitar and sing like a girl. book recommendation: catch-22. it's fantastic! i'm not sure what to compare it to, maybe catcher in the rye? (i'm not very well read) although it's really very different, you just have to read it to find out. i know that wasn't a very good decription, but i'm trying not to drivel on too much. subject line vs b&s content: my old infamous but faithful NAD amplifier has finally died after years of faithfulness and infamy, whilst trying to play a b&s track no less! i don't know which track i was trying to play, as i had just put the cd (tbwtas) in and then i realised that the amp was broken before i got to choose the track. maybe i was just going to play the whole album. hmmm.... take it easy mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Wed May 23 17:37:33 2001 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (sweetie something) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:37:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I only came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I'm all out of bubblegum Message-ID: sinister ITS A BEAUTIFUL DAY the sun is shining, the sky is blue, the birds are singing, people smell like coconuts, the flowers are in bloom, the air smells like honey, its warm with a sweet sweet breeze, it tastes like SUMMER AND IT DRIVES ME WILD! and i remember the first time i ever heard belle and sebastian and my other favorite band theres this cloud that i can see its above the house thats sort-of opposite our house and its just all on its own away from all the other clouds its sort of round sort of blob like round and blob like but, every time i look round at it it has changed shape a bit i think its morphing into a slug shape yeah it definately is wow i just looked at that cloud again and its disappeared i guess it must have morphed into a racing slug a young couple walk into a clothes shop shes sees some things she likes and goes to try them on he sighs and tags along over to the changing rooms he sits down on the hard, uncomfortable wooden chair she hops into the changing room as rolls his weary eyes he hears her moving about in their getting changed breaths out probably louder than he should have and looking down, shakes his head a few minutes and alot of rustling around later she pokes her head round the curtain holding it tight into her chin so theres no chance anyone will see anything except her face and calls him over he leaves his bag beside the chair (a subconscious attempt at stopping anyone else from taking the chair) he walks right over until he is standing directly in front of her and looks her in the eyes she pulls the curtain aside a bit so only he can see in he leans forward covering any space that might have let other people see in she holds her hands out to the side 'what do you think' 'its nice' 'only nice?' he knows where this is going 'yeah its nice, it looks good on you' 'but, only nice?' 'ok, its really nice, it really suits you' 'you dont think it makes me look fat?' 'no, it doesnt make you look fat' she wrinkles her nose a bit and looks at her self from behind in the mirror 'does it make my bum look big? he smiles and looks up a bit 'no it doesnt make your bum look big' 'then why were you laughing?' 'i wasnt laughing! i was only smiling' 'because you think it makes my bum look big?' 'no it doesnt make your bum look big!' 'then why were you laughing?!' he leans his forehead on his hand and smiling, shakes his head he looks up at her 'i wasnt laughing' 'you were! look there you done it again!' 'what! i wasnt laughing!' 'yes you were, you think my bum looks big and you were laughing at me' he sighs and shakes his head 'oh for goodness sake...' 'what? stop it!' 'stop it! stop what!' 'making fun of me and laughing' 'im not making fun of you or laughing at you!' 'oh so im making it up now am i?' he smiles again 'youre crazy' 'oh, so ur calling me a liar now are you?' he shakes his head, and fed up, leans against the wall with his arms folded 'look, i wasnt laughing at you, it doesnt make your bum look big, infact- you look great in it' 'you did so laugh!' 'ok, i laughed...' 'hah! so i was right...' 'no, you were wrong,the reason i laughed is because i think your silly to worry about you bum looking big, your bum looks great and so does the rest of you' 'hmm. and your not just saying that?' he goes into the changing room with her and puts his arms round her 'no, im not.' and kisses her 'you look brilliant' 'you promise?' 'i promise.' 'ok' she smiles and blushes a bit 'so, are u going to get that one then?' 'this one? nah, ive got all these still to try on then i want to look next door! and i have to find shoes!' he falls to his knees and bursts into tears. "And I think, to love the ones I've wronged, kissed and buried, I've known it all along." sweetie xox ICQ #42242252 MSN instant msngr: something_sinister at hotmail.com AOLim id: IIIsecondcreep *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* If I wasn't psychotic I would never have found my true self. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MIWinship at xxx.com Thu May 24 01:39:43 2001 From: MIWinship at xxx.com (MIWinship at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:39:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: "tell you who you are if you nail me to my car" Message-ID: 'Small Wonder', 'Out of this World'......'It's Your Move' anyone? OK so not robot/space related, but definitely from that era because that's when we got our first video and I remember taping those shows.... IYM starred Jason Bateman, who I believe replaced Michael J Fox for 'Teenwolf Too'...... (oh no, I've started another 80's film thread...) I've not seen Larry the Frog around the house for a while, but clearly he's been sneaking around and using my computer to send e-mails, when I'm out. I can say that my preference is for Mr Fast Fry chips, but Dome curry sauce. Also he mentioned moaning about the rain. I quite like a bit of drizzle.... Sweetie had a 'They Live' subject line quote. I love 'They Live'. It has the longest and most pointless fight in film history. "Put on the sunglasses..." It seems you can't go to Camden without seeing Finley Quaye these days. He was walking up and down the high street the other morning. Which is much too early for a 'pop star'. For those of you who feel there's something missing from your lives, I have the answer: The David Bowie Singles Video Collection. It has all your favourites, and some you'll hate, but more importantly the contender for Greatest Music Video...Ever in 'Dancing in the Street'. Unbelievable performances by Bowie and Jagger, and the fashions (beep beep) to match. 'Look Back in Anger' is also ace/mad. And then I woke up. The end. Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu May 24 03:41:16 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:41:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Write it down? Message-ID: <4a.164715a4.283dcecc@aol.com> All this talk has made me hungry! For fear of missing something thats really worthwile I have neglected to delet ANY email that comes my way, and after not checking for a week or so I have brought myslef a lot of sitting in from of my computer and reading, which is good for my brain b/c otherwise I'd be doing something mindless like playing the Sims, an utterly adictive game! I know its only been a few days sience I posted but i was bored, and I give you all more than the right to delete this! Its mostly mindless anyways... As people get older do you think that they get more nastalgic? I'm still only 15 but i miss being five or a wee six sometimes...Last friday for instance, I went out to get a milkshake with a few friends after school was up.. WE talked about things like this and one of my friends, who couldn't be trusted at the moment said you could tell that time was moving faster b/c the clouds move faster as you go.. I figured it out though! As we get older time moves faster right? Well, this is b/c it is a smaller fraction of your life. For instance, when you are five a year is one fifth but when you are 20 its a lot less. (This isn't for those who dont get fractions) Does thats sound Philisophical to you? It sure does to me. And if you have a better idea you better damn well tell me! Thats it Kate "I am the princess of everything I ate a crayon and I turned into an indian" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Thu May 24 09:42:31 2001 From: ian at xxx.com (Halliday, Ian) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:42:31 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Re: Utilitarianism Message-ID: <3B0CC977.E6C69288@halliday.com> Thank you, I thought you'd never ask. Utilitarianism is the philosophical principle that anything that increases the net total of world happiness is a Good Thing, while anything that decreases it is a Bad Thing. For example, if B & S were to release a new album which was truly marvellous, this would be a Good Thing, because more people would be made happy by this than would be made sad, but if Des O'Connor were to release a new album, this would be a Bad Thing. In the same way, if Manchester United were to be relegated from the Premier, this would be a Good Thing. Even though they have a frighteningly large following, far more people hate them. Everything I know about utilitarianism comes from hanging around with people studying it in their first year, along with politics and economics. I won't say where this was, because you'll call me an elitist, but please note that I didn't complete a degree there. Regards, Ian -- Ian W Halliday, BA Hons, MIMIS, AAIBF Snr, ATMB, CL +64 25 245 6089 (GMT+12) http://baptism.co.nz Excel in all we do -- Word documents not accepted -- see http://baptism.co.nz/word.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Thu May 24 10:03:13 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:03:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: OBAD-the hidden menace to today's society% Message-ID: It�s an alarming fact that today�s youth are falling foul to an obsession that grips their mind. Perfectly sane individuals are becoming victims of a mind-altering condition. In this exclusive report I bring you tales of what is commonly known as obsessive belle and Sebastian disorder (OBAD) OBAD has been known to strike at random. Its victims appear to all intensive purposes to lead normal life, of course with a disorder of this nature this can not be the case. OBAD is a condition appropriately named after the band thought to cause the disorder. The music created by the band causes strong emotional effects on its victims. Their catchy tunes make the disorder incredibly contagious. What is more alarming though, is despite the virulent nature of the band, to date there is no known cure. In my research I have interviewed a sufferer and will bring to you the heartbreaking tale: Miss X, a young woman with her whole life ahead of her. Watching her enter the room it is hard to imagine the intensity of this obsession. To the untrained eye she is just an ordinary women, but the glazed look in her eye clues to the condition she is suffering. -So Miss X how when did you first realise you were suffering from OBAD? - Well firstly I would like to point out that I'm not actually suffering here... I�m quite happy with "the state that I am in" (She smiles while unknowingly displaying two key symptoms of the disorder: 1) An amazing self deception that the condition is a positive aspect of her life 2) The compulsion to quote lyrics from the band) -In that case could you tell me in what way OBAD effects your day? -I suppose it can be quite variable. On some days I might simply hum a few songs to myself or look at the world through the eyes of a belle and Sebastian lyric. On the other hand I might return from work and put on a B&S CD and end up listening to the music all night. Sometimes that is the only thing left to do. Many sufferers from OBAD have turned to a frightening type of self-help known as the sinister mailing list. Unfortunately for the suffers instead of receiving the kind of professional help that they obviously need they are offered advice and understanding from other equally obsessed individuals. The list is not without its health warnings. An ex-member of the band who obviously left after seeing all of the suffering he had caused has felt it his duty to caution suffers with the message "sinsietr is a bit freaky�. Although its obvious his heart is in the right place I feel his words trivialise this debilitating condition somewhat. I left Miss X singing quietly to herself. Although there was a smile on her lips I was certain that an unhappiness lay within. OBAD is a serious threat to the population and unless more is done to combat it who knows how many victims it will claim. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu May 24 11:05:38 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:05:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: public service announcement Message-ID: <014201c0e439$162eab80$ea04fd3e@katrina> for glasgow people: this year's electric honey signings PUPKIN are playing at the Virgin Megastore on Buchanan Street tonight at 7pm and their debut EP 'Morning Light' is out on Electric Honey Records now. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Thu May 24 14:34:16 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:34:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re:utilitarianism Message-ID: <3B0D0DD8.3D8121CE@camb.linst.ac.uk> hang on! i thought utilitarianism was the attitude that everything must be factual and must have theories and studies to make something true?? or am i getting it confused with utotalitarianism??????? And to idleberry, isnt BEARSUIT a tindersticks song?????? questions, questions, but do you have any answers!!!!!!!!!!!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu May 24 14:33:53 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:33:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Frogs in the snow Message-ID: <3B121305@MailAndNews.com> Hello, I am currently sitting back at home, back in Milton Keynes, rediscovering the joys of the Television. In particular, the early morning children's TV programs, how the enthusiastic actors are thriving to expand the horizons of children in their knowledge. One particular one is "Captain Crimson", it uses the storyline of a comic writer to teach kids to distinguish between words such as "should" "could" and "would".. I would give you an example but should I do that I could well make a fool out of myself. But that wasn't the best thing I've learnt tho, no. During one episode, they were discussing how to write an adventure story, and I was in a semi-asleep mode still whilst watching it (it was like 11am for God's sake), suddenly I was awaken by the line "IT'S AN ADVENTURE WITH NOBS ON!". That really woke me up, and then I realised that it was 11am BBC2 rather than 11pm Channel 5, disappointed, I fell asleep again. The next day, disillusioned, I put on Channel 4 instead, the tweenies were on, they were making wallpaper borders using different shapes made using vegetables and sponges as stamps. In the sleepy mode again, I was woken up by "I'M DOING THE FAIRY'S HEAD WITH MY CARROT!" Kids, these days. They'll start writing songs about being in a lift with lesbians soon. I then watched "Live Talk" on ITV at 2pm, but I was really miffed when there was a temporary fault that cut off the intelligent conversation the presenters were having about how the mirrors of Marks and Spencers make them look fat, and their bums look big. Good advert for girl power. I am very glad that Larry has finally made it to the list, and he said: "the Dome chips are better than Mister Fast Fry chips. I think the Dome wins, but then I am a frog I don't know anything." I don't really know anything either, but I'm sure most chips in the world are better than Fry Chips that sound as if they are named after a porn star. (And the name would suggest a pretty rubbish porn star too) Robert Donlan said: >>The comment bout Autechre was actually very funny. Good stuff, whoever said it.<< It probably was me, I can't remember what I said tho, I hope I didn't say anything rude like "Autechre rocks - they are a bag of stones". Hannah Brown said: >>tindersticks..I got to the front and was wedged inbetween, a twat... and two girly girls that talked.... << I don't really know the tindersticks, but I think I would start going to their gigs. I think I have the OBAD symptoms, they always say, the first step to the cure of an obsession is to admit it, well that I have done now, so I think finally my OBADing days are over. I just hope that no one have been taking pictures of my obsession, unless we're talking about my obsession with buffy, in which case I want to see the pictures. Girl wedges and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: People who aren't already the part of sinisterfitba should join, the first kickabouty was great fun, especially if you don't cripple yourself after five minutes.. ahem :-) ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu May 24 15:26:24 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:26:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: bagel chips and roy orbison Message-ID: hello hello... i haven't posted in a while, so i thought i should. i am rather unhappy but content and all these other unnameable things at the moment. i don't know why. (mucky water, mucky water...) my roommate just walked into the room and complained about her latin test. apparently, she got her period in the middle of it... i have been playing some bruce springsteen and roy orbison to help her feel better. i am slightly disturbed. the belle and sebastian boy (the only one in exeter, new hampshire) not only not likes me as a girlfriend type person, but strongly dislikes me as a person. he does not acknowledge my exitence, and while everyone else says he's one of the nicest, kindest people they've known, he treats me in quite a hostile manner. i am disappointed, not only having lost a chance at dating someone who likes belle and sebastian (i would date my friend rachel, but i'm heterosexual), but having lost the chance at having another friend who knows of belle and sebastian as well... has anyone heard the new weezer album? is it any good? yes, bagel chips are good! (as are belle and sebastian) and i don't quite remember who it was that recommended alex lloyd to me (i think it was davie kerr, who we haven't heard from in a while), but thank you. he's very very good. of course, he is from australia so i am having issues getting his album, black the sun. the new REM cd is given 3.5 stars out of 5 on hye min's rating scale. i think i am giving a biased judgement, though. i don't know if it's worth 3.5 stars, but i really like REM and their old stuff, so mayhaps i am trying to keep my little fantasy of REM in my head. what does it mean when they just avoid you? cheers, hye min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu May 24 15:38:43 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:38:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tetotalitarian Message-ID: Good morning all! It sure is a lovely morning, and I'm dead tired. I noticed somebody mentioned Utilitarianism. I believe Ian was correct in his definition. I took an Ethics class last semester, and we learned that Utilitarianism is assigning values to certain situations and deciding what was morally right based on what came out with a higher number of points. I think the idea of assigning a value to joy or sadness is preposterous. Who is to decide what is more joyous to another person than it is for another? Does that make sense? I loved Kate's thoughts on nostalgia. I get more nostalgic every year. I remember hating my 11th grade year of high school, but now I can only think fondly of it and I actually miss it. I saw the "1979" video last night and almost cried remembering how awesome 8th grade was. I know it's old news, but I saw Miss Gracie from Ferris Bueller in the movie Airborne last night. Don't ask me why I was watching it, but I just couldn't turn off "the world's only rock n' rollerbladin movie!" I can't find Johnathan David online anywhere. I did find a live version of "Carriage Clock" though. I also checked out Hefner, and found them to be pretty rockin'. I received a traffic ticket last night for cutting off a cop whilst running a red light. Let it be known that I'm a complete idiot. I'm done wasting time now. I think I'm gonna find some Dorothy Parker to see what all the fuss is about. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sdf26 at xxx.edu Thu May 24 17:27:22 2001 From: sdf26 at xxx.edu (sdf26 at xxx.edu) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Totally without utility. Message-ID: <990721642.3b0d366a94ee6@webmail.med.yale.edu> Matt wrote: "we learned that Utilitarianism is assigning values to certain situations and deciding what was morally right based on what came out with a higher number of points. I think the idea of assigning a value to joy or sadness is preposterous. Who is to decide what is more joyous to another person than it is for another? Does that make sense?" In a sense this is correct, for it does show that utilitarianism doesn't provide a practical guide for day-to-day choices about what to do, but it's a rather unfair critique of utilitarian positions in meta-ethics. The meta-ethical utilitarian is going to say that the practical difficulty of *actually* assigning value isn't the issue; the issue is simply that 'utility' (some abstract measure of human happiness or quality of life) is the only notion that can ground a system of ethics. Utilitarianism is very compelling from a meta-ethical perspective (we're doing meta-ethics when we wonder whether there really is such a thing as 'right' or 'wrong', 'good' or 'bad', and, if so, what it is that makes something right and another thing wrong) because it is very difficult to argue that other ways of providing a foundation for an ethical system actually do so. Moral anti-realists seem to have the upper hand against Kantian practical reason based approaches, for instance, for these rely on contentious claims about human nature, and full-out realist positions fall prey to Mackie's argument from queerness (If 'morals' or 'values' are real, what kind of a thing are they?...They must be a very queer sort of thing, indeed.) So, it can seem that we are forced into a utilitarian position (e.g. an action is good if it contributes to utility, and better if it contributes more) or into an anti-realist position (e.g. let's face it, "right" and "wrong" are imaginary human constructs...if we think about it, we realize there really are no such things). But, utilitarianism is cumbersome as a decision-making tool, because of the very problem Matt mentions: assigning value to states of human happiness seems totally arbitrary. Is a burst of intense joy better than a lifetime of mediocre satisfaction? Furthermore, should we not include animals? Is a human death a good thing if 50 million rabbits are thereby given a simultaneous orgasm? Again, the meta-ethicist will simply shrug her shoulders and say, "I don't know and it doesn't matter...the point is that in general and in abstraction, the moral worth of an action depends on its utility." There are more serious problems with utilitariansim, however. For example, we can contrive of thought experiments in which really "bad" things (that is, things we are very tempted pre-reflectively to call evil or bad or morally vicious) result in unexpected utility. Suppose that we had an omniscient computer, and this computer enabled us to chart out a finite history of the world from any point in time onward, and to determine how the course of history depends upon the occurrence of any past event. I could ask it, "What would my life be like in 2030 if I hadn't brushed my teeth yesterday, and what will it be like given that I did?" I could then compare the two, and see what contribution to my future well-being my tooth-brushing made. Of course, we'd expect the contribution to be quite small, and it would in that case be difficult to determine whether or not the action contibuted to my happiness or well-being. Now, suppose we ask the computer, "What will the world be like in 2030, and what would it have been like had the Nazis never ravaged Europe?" Imagine the computer tells us that the world in 2030 will be utopic, with peace and prosperity enjoyed by all people, but that -unexpectedly and due to some unfathomably complicated chain of circumstances- had the Nazi's never existed, the world would be in a state of utter decay and devastation. What would the utilitarian say to that? Whether we can realistically assign value to happiness or not, it seems totally obvious that the world in 2030 post-Nazi's would be much, much better than it would be had they never existed (it doesn't take any precise or controversial assignment of 'value' or 'utility' to license the claim that peace and prosperity for all is much better than a hellish nightmare on earth). This happiness (or misery) will be enjoyed (or suffered) in 2030 by, say, 10 *billion* people, and the price we'd have paid (or trade-off we'd have made) in the 1940's was a (by comparison) minimal (say) 10 *million*. It seems that the utilitarian is forced to admit that the Nazi's did a good thing - after all, the whole world will (ex hypothesi) profit enormously from their actions. But that seems a crazy thing to say, for we are inclined to hold onto the belief that the Nazis' actions were incontrovertibly evil - and therefore it seems that a notion of moral value founded on human utility isn't a notion of moral value the majority of us recognize as such. Philosophers tend to get themselves into this kind of situation all the time: their arguments seem to push them into a position on the issue of "X", which position prompts the rest of us (even those of us who are philosophers) to say, "Well, if *that's* what you mean by "X", then clearly we just mean different things." In my mind, this latter problem is the sort on which Utilitarianism beaches itself - the problem of precisely assessing utility, however, isn't really so serious. Hope you didn't read all this if you found it boring...you certainly weren't obliged! --Sam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com Thu May 24 17:19:42 2001 From: foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com (Fox in the snow) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:19:42 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow gigs Message-ID: >We have two tickets for b&s on the 15th and would like to swap them for a >pair for the 16th. >If we can't swap them, we are also willing to sell ours. > >Tanx Martyn coolpad at btinternet.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Thu May 24 18:45:17 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:45:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Bonjour, as Del Boy and many French speakers would say. Message-ID: <20010524174517.29766.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Actually Del Boy would probably say "Au Reviour" Anyway, inkeeping with this glorious sunny day i have be introduced to the oldie worldie sweet shop that is Sinister. Therefore it is only polite that i greet everyone. I'm JoJo, a Mr Benn enthusiast and general fancy dress hire shop loiterer type person. I've never actually met Mr Benn, but i will,though he is as elusive as Father Christmas, sans beard. Belle and Sebastian have made me a happier human. Thanks for listening jojo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Thu May 24 21:31:48 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (M. Timothy Meskers) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:31:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Stucco obelisks labelled as trees / Pulling mussels from the shell Message-ID: Hello friends, Allow me to start this with the token phrase, "Oh, all you lucky people who get to see Belle & Sebastian live, I'm so jealous, etc." But you are lucky, and I am jealous. I drafted a letter to Isobel to see if she wanted to go to prom, but I never sent it. That's the extent of my B&S content, for this time, at least. There are a few things that prompted me to post, I believe that two of those things came from the illustrious Pinefox! (note the exclamation point denoting increased illustrious-ness). 1. Points of/raised by Pinefox a. Squeeze. I remember as a lad listening to Singles; 45's and Under. (Somebody help me out with that, am I even close to the title?) My father had it on vinyl and I would jump around and play with my cat during the particularly happy numbers and more than likely do considerable damage to the record. But right, they're great. b. Edward Gorey Fascinating, his works and his life. I recently read a biography on him entitled 'The Strange Case of Edward Gorey,' written by a friend of his. Has anyone got a favorite Gorey tale? I'm rather fond of the Pious Infant, personally. The preceding subpoints may not have even been raised by Pinefox, but oddly enough his posts stick out in my mind. 2. Hye Min a. Weezer The new Weezer album is incredible (though they don't seem to be too terribly popular on the list). Maybe in five more years we'll have another 28 minutes of greatness. Although word on the street is that their newer stuff is dark, like Pinkerton. Which is good, cause Pinkerton's still my favorite. Has anyone ever listened to a group called The Locust? I'm starting to grow attached to their self-titled disc. I think my favorite song off of that album is probably a toss-up between 'Moth Eaten Deer Head' and 'Cattle Mutilation.' They don't really sound anything like Belle & Sebastian at all. So, with that I suppose I'll retreat back for awhile. Hope everyone's doing well. Has anyone seen Coldplay live or is going to see them on June 2nd at the Electric Factory? My friend got me tickets so I'm rather curious. Sincerely, Timothy. xoxo p.s. LL, got the Pixies b-sides disc finally, I'll be sure to write you, er, one of these days. Terribly sorry, been busy with school and such. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bipedalboy at xxx.com Thu May 24 21:48:49 2001 From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:48:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: happy hello Message-ID: <38.16a40763.283ecdb1@aol.com> new listee here, thought i pop in me head and say 'allo.... allo i will include more words next posting.... nyc 5:40pm sidhe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Fri May 25 00:05:41 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Ryan Thatcher) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:05:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Stucco obelisks labelled as trees / Pulling mussels from the shell Message-ID: I drafted a letter to Isobel to see if she wanted to go to prom, but I never sent it. YOU MUST POST THE LETTER! C'mon now, open up. It's what we're here for. No one is going to judge you. She might even write you back. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Fri May 25 09:17:51 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:17:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: John passes his dates Message-ID: 'morning geezas End the confusion, stop the voices, re-rewind. Peel acres have announced the B&S session date as June 19th. Be there, or be a Steps fan. Your woman in radio, The Hodottir PS - I heard Johnathon David and I don't it as much as "Take your carriage clock..." PPS - If this post isn't long enough can the list mummy, daddy (or whatever) please email my boss and tell her I'm not being allocated enough time for idle sinister chat. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri May 25 08:41:22 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:41:22 -0700 Subject: Sinister: because she is the birthday girl Message-ID: <000c01c0e553$0f744be0$2628073e@aqlzosqt> newsflash: b&s session to be aired on john peel on MY BIRTHDAY! (that's tuesday 19th june, by the way.) i'm going to put some nightlights in my garden and point the radio out of the window while i lie on the grass, drink some wine (actually i might have to sit up to do that bit) and look at the stars. you should all do the same. i'll only be 23, so hopefully no stroke for another year yet... i think it's quite funny that the abbreviation for the albert hall is RAH. as in 'RAH! i'm going to see b&s'. time to launch a pointless linguistic competition, i've decided. me and dj matt were told on saturday that there was only one word in the english language which contained the letters 'd' and 'k' next to each other (in that order). always up for a challenge, we proved how much sadder we are than the people who devise these teasers in the first place by finding five by the end of the night. (it might be a lot easier with the letters written down, come to think of it.) but anyway, a lovely mix tape goes to the first person to tell me all five... as ken pikachu is now our daytime tv correspondent, i wonder if he could report on 'fetch the vet', a new animated phenomenon i've seen advertised on bus stops a lot. it sounds potentially morbid for a kid's show - every episode involving some casualty/er style animal emergency? episode 1: dog on wheels -oh no, fido is turning a corner rather fast while arguing with his owner -look, a terrible crash has occurred -fido's bp is 60 over 40, he's bleeding out, etc -fetch the vet! talking of animals, i can't help thinking that larry the frog might be happier if he didn't have a big stick up his arse. right, i'm off to plan how to get in front of big stu at all costs on june 29th. (i'm hoping, vainly i feel, that that didn't sound like smut.) luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri May 25 16:07:02 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:07:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I don't care who the Survivor is, so long as it's not the person playing the bongos all the way through the show... Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027754FA@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> So, who's coming to Scarborough then? So long as the weather's OK, the plan is for a pre-gig picnic on the beach (you can't do that in London!) from about 4pm. South Bay, literally over the road from the theatre. So the stalker-types out there will be able to see band members going in and out during the soundcheck (which normally lasts about 5 hours when B&S are involved...). It's only about 500m from the train station, but if anyone wants a lift I'll be driving up from Harrogate via York (and back again after). Email me... If anyone's going to Preston and knows where the hell the theatre is, I'd love to hear from you. Miss Clarke EU? And I'm looking for somewhere cheap to stay in London, if anybody has any recommendations. Can anyone out there make decent banners / T-shirts? I have an idea brewing... JD (hang on, isn't that a drink?) is going to be Mark & Lard's record of the week the week after next. If you haven't heard it yet, listen to their show, every time they've played it so far they've gone on about how good it is for about 5 minutes afterwards... Imagine a Beach Boys song, with Chris bashing away at his organ all the way through, and you won't be far off (this, incidentally, is a good thing). >From what I've made of the lyrics so far, it appears to be about Stevie fancying his mate's girlfriend, and fantasising about a threesome with them. Not sure what Jonathan and David have got to do with anything, I'm sure they didn't get up to anything like that in the bible... Peel session, 10-12pm (British Summer Time), Tuesday 19th June. Non-UK people will be able to listen in by going to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/, once you've figured out what the time difference is. Archel, there's 2 problems with your plan to lie outside with the radio on: 1. you won't be able to record it; 2. it'll probably be pissing it down. Oh, and there's more than one word with d and k in it, try Handkerchief and Breadknife for starters... I've sunk to a new low. Larry the Frog has got more crush votes than me. Big Stu Right, I'm off to plan how to get behind Archel on June 29th. (Smut purely intentional...) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk Fri May 25 16:46:28 2001 From: Sarah.J.Clarke at xxx.uk (Clarke, Sarah J (EU)) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:46:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Preston School of Industry* Message-ID: <837BA1530442D41180C50008C7F353FF73214F@GB047XS> Chaps, > If anyone's going to Preston and knows where the hell the > theatre is, I'd > love to hear from you. Miss Clarke EU? Righty-ho. Directions. From Preston train station: * bimble out of the station. go out of the main doors where the ticket offices are, walk up, and then turn right. walk straight along that street you're on (fishergate), passing a loada banks (so you can get out some 'wonga' for ALE), a Woolworths and HMV, and you'll see a Waterstones bookshop on the right. Turn *left* and you'll be on a big square (flagmarket). Walk diagonally across (to the left hand side of the Harris library), then look up the street going alongside of the Harris and you will see ta da! Preston Guildhall! Directions from bus station: Walk in the direction away from where the National Express coaches are... you'll reach a kiosk at the end of the station, with a subway leading downwards towards Brewsters. It'll be seedy and probably smell of wee. Go down this subway! When you come out of subway, you will be in Guildhall arcade! And therefore, there! Hurrah! I'll try and find some online maps as well, but I can't get proper internet access from here. I'm sure there will be a map on the UCLAN website, here: http://www.uclan.ac.uk (I think!) I would imagine this would show the way! The main street you're looking for is Fishergate, the square is Flag Market and the Guildhall is RIGHT by the bus station, so if you can see how to get there you're basically sorted for Guildhall. Booze beforehand, chaps? Very nice park, in the shape of Avenham park for the twee picnicking option, but also a few half decent boozers and places to eat for those suitably inclined. Ie, great place that does huge garlic bread and cheese, funny little Italian place and ur, McDonalds. The local goth caff will also be open for pints of Vimto (grand!) and nine year old kids in Nirvana tops! YEAH! Mail me for any more suggestions possibly? This is all surrealistically beautiful. I love it! I've said "chaps" twice. Hmmm, time to go and listen to 70s who and have a Cup of Tea. Cheers, Kei...shit, Sarah!! * Anyone going to see them at their London show? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sdf26 at xxx.edu Fri May 25 19:17:54 2001 From: sdf26 at xxx.edu (sdf26 at xxx.edu) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <990814674.3b0ea1d299d02@webmail.med.yale.edu> Peter wrote: "Ah, but surely a utilitarian could still say that their intentions were evil, because they intended to decrease the sum of human happiness. The fact that they didn't is irrelivent to them as human beings, because they did not believe they were acting in a positive manner according to the utilitarian ideal." Well, it doesn't seem safe to assume that they intended to decrease the sum of human happiness. Certainly they intended to kill millions and millions of people, but their perverse rationale (we can imagine) was that this was the only solution to the world's problems and that it would ultimately lead to a much better world. It's also clear that such a rationale is IRrational (but note that it is irrational only because there is no known way to predict the effects present actions, especially the big ones, will have), but sometimes we choose a course of action irrationally and later find that (by chance) it is the "right" course of action. For instance, we sometimes buy a CD because we like the name of one of the songs (I bought Sinister because I used to fancy myself a bit of a track star...I'd never heard B&S beforehand), and in doing so discover great music, song titles notwithstanding. The problem that my thought experiment raises for Utilitarianism is that such a theory seems to establish moral criteria on which we are forced to say that actions which lead to human happiness are good, even if they at some point involve the death of many humans. But, there are certainly many ways for Utilitarians to avoid this problem...I'm attacking a very crude form of Utilitarianism, I think. --Sam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat May 26 05:15:41 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 04:15:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm American. We don't "wank." Message-ID: Me: Here are the Thesauruses Clueless Customer #1: No, I'm looking for a book of synonyms. Me: So, it is a nonfiction book? Clueless Customer #2: No, it's a true story. Before you start to snicker at the lack of mute inglorious Miltons that abound in a little bookshop in western Carolina, may I remind you that Sinister is its own little source of disturbing quotage from people. Yes, yes. Why just a few months ago a sinisterette posted about how she loves to go grocery shopping because it's so "erotic." With the exception of a few family reunions and the four years which I lived in Utah, I haven't been around the mentally ill very much but I do believe this girl might benefit from extensive psychiatric treatment. (Then again, from my experience with Erotic Poetry I'm beginning to think that the most popular definition of "erotic" is simply "bad" to which I apologize profusely if this was her intention in the use of this word.) Second to only cruise ships, Grocery Stores would be the best (or is that worst?) setting for my own personal Hades. Because of this, I end up making comments like I did today while passing the produce department. "In Hell, everyone most likely has to eat watermelon naked" which only began a subsequent conversation about the book Cooking In The Nude and what dishes would not be included in such a book. (Trust me, the ones which would be included are worse - Chicken Porno Bleu, Promiscuous Prawns, Vealing Lusty, Fondue Me, etc.) See why I hate grocery shopping? ***Trivia Time!*** Does this have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian, you, or anything you care about? Not a chance! Does it have to do with MEMEMEMEMEMEME! Of course! Now for our sponsored random Laura Llew Trivia Tidbit: I have taken over 20 college credit hours in Religion which is enough for a minor at most universities. OK, so this actually doesn't even mean a thing and I didn't even go to church last Sunday. However, I did watch a good bit of the Simpsons' Marathon so CLOSE ENOUGH. I'm certifiably capable enough to be able to tell you that Matthew 'Fire and Brimstone' Henderson was correct in his summation of: "Jonathan in the Bible was David's best friend growing up. He was also King Saul's son, which made him kind of an enemy." See, aren't you glad we have a good ole' Southern boy on the list now to keep us on the straight and narrow(minded)? You can find all of this in first Samuel and I'm glad this is the original source of B&S new title rather than the other suggested Correlli's Mandolin. (Though personally I have delusions of mediocrity myself. I always set low standards for myself and consistently fail to achieve them.) I always appreciate biblical allusions (aka: delusions). Like when I was recommended the book "Eyeless in Gaza", I was ecstatic to connect that the title was referring to Samson. Personally, I can think of many things I would rather have than a Jonathan to my David - like an Ahab to my Jezebel, a Corianton to my Isabel, a Samson to my Delilah (snip, snip), or a Joseph to my Potiphar's Wife. Too bad I'll most likely just end up with a Dr. Jekyll to my Mr. Hyde. Speaking of Hot Hydes, no one told me WILL PORTER is going to be at the NYC picnic!!!! I'll be there with Belles on!!! Southern ones!! Honey dripping blondes on each arm and maybe one riding piggy back (which might be hard to manage in a hoop skirt but us Southerners are capable of ANYTHING!) Maybe I'll bring a Sebastian too for good measure! Ok, I'm lying like a politician (with my Intern on my desk). On Thursday, I'm leaving for Chicago for work instead of NYC for play :( What's worse is that I'm utterly depleted of mix tapes to listen to. Beware that I'm making a list of people under the "All Bark and That Bites" category who talked schmack about their mix tape abilities and then were UNABLE TO PERFORM. Though I can't complain about the entries so far. Perhaps you're just scared that Rachel Walther or Jer will beat you out. Wimps! Laura: I can�t think of any happy German literature A Clever Bookshop Boy: Yeah, even the fairy tales are Grimm I could be dreaming-- Laura PS- Stop being mean to BIG STU. I bet he has the best *seat* in the house PPS - Happy belated birthday to Chrstiaan!!!, Tamara, and Ralph Waldo Emerson. Plus, a happy premature birthday to Walt Whitman PPPS - Sorry, about the lack of "flow" (opposed to "Flo". Kiss my Grits!) in this post. Halfway through writing it I became depressed and started watching MTV (or maybe I started watching MTV and became depressed). Thus, if this ends up choppy and disjointed just be glad I'm writing and not reparing a broken bone. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From missvicky at xxx.net Sat May 26 11:31:27 2001 From: missvicky at xxx.net (missvicky at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:31:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A plea! Message-ID: <200105261031.f4QAVNL04503@scooby.lineone.net> Well, this isn't quite how I envisaged my first post to Sinister for two years to be! A plea for help. Is there anyone who has two tickets for the Barrowlands concert on Friday 15th June who would rather go on the Saturday night? WayAhead have managed to be completely incompetent and send us four tickets for Saturday night instead of two for each night, so unless we manage to find tickets for the Friday we're going to have taken the day off work and flown up to Glasgow just to sit in our guesthouse on Friday night twiddling our thumbs. If anyone can help, could they email Mark and I at boyincorduroy at yahoo.com, or, even better, call us on 07771 656961 as soon as you can so we can stop sobbing and cheer up :o) Thanks so much! Miss Vicky x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Sat May 26 12:19:13 2001 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:19:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Now that I own the BBC Message-ID: <3B0F9F40.16299.3F1B04B@localhost> So here, at last, is the *top secret* report of my infiltration of TV centre (screentest to be a weatherman). I suggest you burn it after you read it. Put a match in the floppy disc slot or something. So, I arrived at TV centre, purple and sweaty and far too early and went inside. In the reception they have lots of TVs showing Bergerac so that helped to calm my nerves. Charlie Hungerford was having some trouble with a bearded man and luckily Jim was on hand, "Bureau des etrangers!", with his brown leather jacket and rugged good looks. Then a lady came, and took me and a man called James through the high speed revolving doors into TV centre. The weather department is a long way from the entrance and when we got there it was being repaired. When you're about to have an interview the last thing you want to meet is a corridor full of ladders like we did, but we managed to avoid them all and were escorted into the office of Mr David Braime (my mum's favourite weatherman). By now I was pink with excitement. We spoke to his secretaries, who spent their time watching the telly, and I sneaked a look at the email subject lines that were lined up in the inbox on the computer screen. Mr Braime must be a closet biker, cos there were lots of emails about "biker conventions" and "biker friendly pubs". I was very nosy. On the notice board when the secretaries were having a cup of tea I saw a letter asking Mr Braime to a charity event with "TV's John Bardon ("Grandad" from Eastenders)". Wow. A true celebrity. Then it was time for the screentest. I met David, and shook his plastic hand, and he told me to pretend I was presenting the weather. He said, "Just say something like this" and said something very good about "fronts" and "sunny spells" and "rain in Scotland, clearing up later". I know it's his job but he really was very good. I was given "the magic button" and stood in front of the screen, and saw myself with my gangly arms duplicated on screens all about the room. Then it was my turn to give the weather and I was, to be honest, quite rubbish. "It's sunny down there, I think that's Cornwall, but it's cloudy up in Norway." Oh dear. We'll get in touch, they said, and within minutes I was flying out through the high speed revolving doors and onto my train home. I don't have much hopes for an interview, but you never know. Like my mum says, it's an experience, and they liked my shirt. On the way home I saw Larry the Frog in the back of a van with a sailor. "Hello duckie", he said, batting his eyelids and wiggling his bottom. No wonder he's doing so well in the list crush. "Look mummy it's a dinosaur!", said a little girl. "What's he doing with his tail?" There've been a lot of things happening in the last couple of weeks, all related to my relatives in some way. It's too much to explain it all, but it's been quite traumatic, as if the laws of the world had all gone mad for a fortnight. I'm exhausted. Sarah, I'm going to the RAH! and hopefully Arantxa is too. Also, if anyone has any spare tickets, could you get in touch? Bye Robin x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri May 25 17:50:05 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:50:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fifteen feet of snow, from her to fifteen feet Message-ID: <3B0E8D3C.AA93FCAB@netscapeonline.co.uk> it is a very hot afternoon and the sun is in my eyes. I may go from grammatical convention or otherwise discurs; the curs! dis thee and love too, viscious mongrel dog Last night, well, last night, sitting with a homeless person on the steps of the five star North British Hotel explaining why I'd just been thrown out of my £150 hotel room: I gave the night floor manager a thorough dressing-down some four hours later on the same steps... where's a room when one needs one? I waited too long for a pizza at 3am and crunched the receipt in my palm and handed it to the proprietor. Sitting by the usher Hall ush..shhh! (earlier discussing opera and caissons with friends from work) I re-considered and wandered back in and the guy clicked his fingers to someone behind the counter and the very long queue and it was instant delivery to my palms and the best ham and pineapple pizza I ever had (big, luscious chunks of pineapple) and then dawn, a little, and trains home in an hour, like, taxis and nightclubs being all inoperative in these wee small hours just drifting, sitting or wandering folks departing from the night that is now the night before... I go for a walk, like Nick Cave in his great new album and meet the homeless man again as we cross paths on the North Bridge and we nod to each other, like a Jekyll; *dotore*/ monsieur *hyde* as I quoted Serge Gainsbourg to a beautiful woman from southern italy earlier who deftly brushed the bit of her white garment that goes over the shoulder around and down her shoulder the other way and in a lovely way and we nod to each other at this 4.30 am on a bridge Hyde/Jekyll/Hyde doctor or surgeon over the acres of glass roof of the dead railway station. I'd obviously made a loud comment to some other people for I was followed. Turning around to see tension I gave a scrunched bundle of british paper coinage. That would've been the hotel room, I suppose: there had to be some way to even things out with the distant silhouette of the Bank of Scotland peeping into the forefront of the vast stone bulk of castle. I vegetate in front of the music video that preceeds the movie *Go* with the girl from Dawson's Creek. I'd love to love you but there are other reasons, say the bubbly bits and some vocals. is there anyone here who doesn't know? raise your hand. erase the trace and raze the land or caress it, and giggle with it or simply live in it Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Sat May 26 17:53:25 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:53:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: picnic ho! Message-ID: <20010526165325.39993.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> okay! apologies to anyone that's not interested, but... the delaware picnic will take place saturday, june 2, at rockford park, wilmington. we'll meet at trolley square at 2pm and then walk over to the park. trolley square is a two-story shopping place on delaware avenue between n. clayton and n. dupont streets. we'll meet on the n. dupont side, in front of happy harry's drugstore, since it's hard to miss; it's got a big sign out front, and trolley square has a nice big sign that says "trolley square" with a picture of a (you guessed it) trolley. if anyone needs more detailed directions, please email me. hope to see lots of you there for picnic fun! -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sat May 26 18:26:59 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 18:26:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: In need of Birmingham Info Message-ID: Sorry if this is cheekiness and list abuse, but myself and some fellow sinisterians and various hangers-on need some advice and guidance. We're going to the Alexandra Theatre gig in Birmingham, but we can't get home afterwards. So if anyone has any ideas of good clubs that we can kick about in until the early train back to Leicester, or cheap Bed and Breakfasts we can go to, please mail me off list and the Leicester Sinister Chapter will be very greatful. Thankyou. Love Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Sat May 26 18:44:41 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Stucco obelisks labelled as trees / Pulling mussels from a shell Message-ID: <20010526174441.93941.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> In regard to your post: THE LOCUST!! now your talking. San Deigo's monsters of mayhem. Probably some of the fastest, shortest, craziest, loudest songs you'll hear, very good stuff. They're going on tour and I deffinately suggest you check them out,(just watch out for people lighting firecrackers in the pit), I gonna see them in Philly, and my buds black dice are playing a couple shows with them. Weezer on the other hand.... trade all their cd's in for more locust. I'm sickened by that band and all that surrounds them, as much as they deny it they're complete media whores. B+S content: the lucksmiths (B+S openers) are in the US! playing with ladybug transistor and the fab Aden, anyone going to the NYC or Philly shows? bye. ---- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Sat May 26 21:05:15 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:05:15 0000 Subject: Sinister: sometimes whisks just have to be told Message-ID: Hello. I have spent an awful lot of money today. I feel very naughty because now my bank balance actually reads #2.08. I believe this is an all time low. The causes of this depletion were: a) buying a B+S ticket for scarborough- hurrah, hurrah, Belle and sebastian visit the seaside. I am looking forward to the possibility of eating sticks of rock whilst i watch them. Not in a twee way though, because as its name suggests, rock is hard. b) a ticket for the leeds festival. oh my god. #80. ouch etc. Less than atp, but still enough to make me take my time handing over the money note by note. Which infuriated the busy ticket lady. But the lineup is looking lovlier by the day ( at least in the tents away from the overhyped headliners ) c ) train ticket to glasgow for barrowlands gig. mmm. i would have thought they'd be free to such a worthy cause, but apparantly not. Larry the frog sounds very handsome. At the moment there is a large frog residing in my sister's paddling pool. Unfortunately it is the colour of dysentry and therefore not useful for decorative purposes. Green is a much better colour for a frog. It's traditional. I nearly spent more money yesterday buying tigermilk on vinyl. It was looking so tempting on ebay, and at #56 I thought i would quite like it, even if only to take pictures of it in various positions in my room. These could then be sold on as porn of a sort for obsessive B+S fans. I could have made my money back. But then somebody kept outbidding me, and at #75 I got scared and ran away to eat marmite until the sale was over. It was probably somebody off sinister. i bear you no hard feelings. grrr. hehe. I must go, i have babbled and it is boring. GraceX p.s Is anyone else doing the new a/s levels? Bloody stupid idea. I am cursing the fool who decided it was possible to do the equivalent of 2 a levels in 8 months. ~an unhappy revision face~ --- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sun May 27 11:04:19 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 06:04:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: This is just a modern frog song Message-ID: <3B3C3986@MailAndNews.com> Hello, So, another day, another lot of daytime TVs.. the other day I watched CD:UK and Travis asked, repeatedly, for Dido to, er, sing, so Dido reluctantly obliged (she was a bit apprehensive because of the fact that she can't sing very well), but at the end she wanted to thank Fran for the best day of her life. The Manic Street Preachers drank some Ocean Spray from the polluted atlantic ocean but the ever venerable "DJ Pied Piper & The Master of Ceremonies" challenged them to ask themselves if they really really liked it, or indeed, if it is really really wicked. Top show. ALTHOUGH, what I'd hope be able to see on TV soon tho, is Robin telling me that it will be sunny and warm on the 16th June, for my "BL!" ticket has arrived! Woohoo! Yay! Hurray! But, unfortunately not RAH!, cos I don't have a ticket for that.. BUT if anyone wants to sell one to me, (or the 15th June in Glasgow for that matter), then you will have my eternal love (if you're a girl you'd even get a kiss.. aren't you lucky?) please please please please please please please please. (a future Travis single perhaps) AND, remember, you should sing sing sing sing, sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing, for the love you bring, won't mean a thing, so sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing, sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing sing. Lyrical Geniuses and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Sorry for a rather rubbish post, but you know you really really liked it, cos it was really really wicked. ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun May 27 11:24:05 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 03:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: All I Loved You For Message-ID: <20010527102405.27474.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com> I'LL KEEP ON LOSING YOU It had to happen, provided I lived this long. I am, possibly, reading, after 10 years' preparation, William Cooper's Scenes From Provincial Life. It seemed the book for me. Ten years ago. And now. But is it? We don't know yet. HE BURIED PAUL The other day I finished Bracewell's ENGLAND IS MINE at last. If I had it with me I'd tell you what was good and bad about it, in detail. What's bad about it: some bad sentences. What's good: the way that he links pop experience back to the everyday - to the mundane geography of Britain. That's my kind of thing. He really does get better as he goes along. He's fine on Bowie, amusing on Loughborough University, kind of convincing on The 80s: and when Morrissey turns up as the last avenging angel it makes Sense. Has nobody else anything to say about this book? My editor was going to review it once, but didn't. The fact that he didn't is like Eliot having never quite got round to reviewing Ulysses. DON'T TREAD ON ME Another book that I have bought is The Selected Letters of S.J. Perelman. I liked the look of all the addresses from which he writes. Beverly Hills, Calif; Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel; Erwinna, Pa; Washington Square North; Shelbourne Hotel, Dublin; Alpes-Maritimes, France; SS 'President Cleveland'; 513-A Sixth Avenue; Hotel Lutetia, Paris; New Stanley Hotel, Nairobi; East Grinstead, Sussex; Hong Kong Hilton, Hong Kong; Key West, Fla; Grand Hotel, Taipei; Onslow Square, London; SS 'Tjisadane' en route Batavia; SS 'Kasimbar' en route Batjan, Moluccas; Oriental Hotel, Thung Mahemek, Bangkok; Ambassador Hotel, Rome; Gramercy Park Hotel. That is my contribution to any poetry contribution that happens currently to be running, that I may not have heard about. I'm sure that Gramercy Park Hotel, where SJP lived out his dog days, is the one where B&S stayed c.1997. Right? That's Content, that is. DAISY WHEELS Another book that I am interested in is Gavin Lambert's Inside Daisy Clover (1963), complete with old-time Yankee book design still intact. I was worried for a while that I might have bought the wrong kind of book here - you know, the kind that Peter Miller likes. But it doesn't look like it. I am still looking for the second Bell Jar, you see, though presumably it doesn't exist. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sat May 26 14:43:27 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:43:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dramatis personae Message-ID: <3B0FB2FF.DCAEE276@netscapeonline.co.uk> it was a quiet afternoon and things weren't going so well: all these crossing lines communicating somewhere as if the signal box of that highly important mainline was shifting louchely of it's own casual accord and those big steel trains hurtling nowhere and maybe about to crash. however one always feels the need for solution a formulation a triangele in the saline ocean-reflected sky: I shalln't say too much but I'm already buried, and, btw: the flowers; little tiny fresias, are in a cool breeze rather sweetly and their scent, too, goes nowhere. Stop. metaphors of screeching rusty brakes of a night-express or word-play on stop/sop/glob/global morning and where? again; where? one cannot love everyone: not in the true sense of always being there. Only this myth we thought might be a nice idea might achieve that but that was then: at its apotheosis of corruption about one thousand years ago: analysed 500 years go once the crusaders stopped killing moors and stuffed with miracles farther back. Or so it is written and, on the net: we write. Why? In order to connect, but connection isn't enough. As James Bond said, as said by the actor Pierce Brosnan: the world is not enough. So, what is enough? REALITY yeah; that mundane thingy someone's face: maybe I get the whole thing wrong and figured instantaneous: maybe you read and think I'm not being private and discreet and using a pop band and the efforts of a very talented gentleman to further my own instincts i'm trying not to: if I thought it was either bad or daft, yes, but if one might search for the slightness of truth the truth is a very slender animal scary as an eel: as bright as the glints on a running stream May I? maybe you don't want me to: I'm bored of being embarassed: I'm bored of being sad and shy. I still think that sadness and shyness are beautiful things like those ants that were trapped in a rock and are still alive four thousand years later But why later? Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lastrespes at xxx.com Sun May 27 16:04:46 2001 From: lastrespes at xxx.com (b gm) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 08:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: help in glasgow Message-ID: <20010527150446.23808.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I am travelling alone to Glasgow. I am from Mexico, and I want to know if someone can give me a tour around the city to know where can I stay, and how to get to king tuts.I am arrivin in june 9 for the dunoon gig. Also I have two tickets for june 15 that I want to sell-trade for june 16. If someone is interested please email me.thanks for your help. Alberto Govela __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Sun May 27 20:20:27 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly Trochet) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 03:20:27 +0800 Subject: Sinister: I introduced my English teacher to B&S Message-ID: <20010527192027.12940.qmail@mail.com> Hello, I just spent three days in Ashland, Oregon, which was a six hour bus ride from where I live. It was a field trip, believe it or not. We went there to see The Tempest and Enter the Gaurdsman. It was a thoroughly exhausting trip, mostly because the eighth graders ran around the bus shouting and playing with each other's hair, and standing in front of the TVs, which were showing movies that were being played at the loudest level, so they were impossible to ignore. It took most of my self control not to burst out screaming at them, and the rest of my self control not to beat up my friends, who were pulling my hair. (I don't know why, but people think it's fun to pull on my hair) I am not a crowds person. I don't like being with a lot of people at once. I despise the noise and the cramped space. That's why the bus ride was nothing short of hell for me. Luckily, I had B&S to comfort me...at least on the way to Ashland. On the way back, the batteries were busted, so they made the tape slow down, which made Dirty Dream #2 sound incredibly odd. I didn't bring back many souvenirs because 1. I'm not a crowds person and 2. I hadn't the faintest idea of what I wanted to bring back, though I had considered a pillow for my sister that said "The Queen Sleeps Here". The plays were okay, except in The Tempest, they changed Prospero and Antonio into women. (I'm not kidding!) Anyway, I introduced my teacher, Mrs. Rumfelt, who is 29-almost-30, into B&S on Friday night. You see, she had taken us to a skating party/dance that was supposed to last from 8:30-10:30. I hadn't wanted to go, but I wasn't given a choice, so I was dragged along. Well, as you can imagine, the DJ at the skating rink didn't play anthing good, so I sat in a corner trying to listen to Belle and Sebastian partly to drown out the sound and partly to pass the time. I think it was then that the batteries started to run low. Mrs. Rumfelt came over and asked to listen to them, mostly because she didn't like the music, either. (The DJ wouldn't play any of the 80s music she listened to) I doubt she could hear much because it was so loud there. I had her listen to a verse of Women's Realm (I don't care 'cause I'm by myself...). She said that they seemed to have good lyrics, and they reminded her of what she listened to esp. the Velvet Underground. I smiled and told her that B&S happened to be influenced by the Velvet Underground. (Or is that just a rumor? I could swear that I read somewhere they had been) Well, despite the bus ride and the skating party, the trip was fun, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I didn't put you to sleep. -Holly P.S. I know this will sound very weird, but can anyone tell me what a Welsh accent sounds like? I've heard one...or if I have, I didn't realize that it was one -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon May 28 00:40:04 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:40:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: On the last bus out of town Message-ID: Hewwo, Well, I've been in Fife for the weekend, staying with Igor and Jaz. Did you miss me? It was swell. On the first night (which I have very little memory of) I drank too much and Moleksin thought it was swell that I could play the guitar, and I threw up everywhere (and my sick was bright purple, how cool is that? It must be the ribena) and all over everything and everyone, and passed out for a bit, and ended up being put to bed in a urine (not mine) stained bed in a pool of my own vomit. And some boy's girlfriend complained that he found me attractive, when I clearly wasn't at all attractive given that I was spewing my innards up all over the floor. Then I woke up the next morning and felt SWELL and NOT HUNGOVER which was grate. Swell is a word I've picked up. It sort of entered my head and ate up the rest of my vocabulary so I have no choice but to use it. That's my excuse anyway. I like the sound of it. It's swell. On Saturday we broke into the grounds of the Glenrothes mental asylum (which looked a lot like the house in resident evil) and had a picnic there. I was expecting something really cool when we got through all the barbed wire and fencing, but it was actually really scary. The place was overgrown and next to a burnt out cottage and the house was all big with bars over the window and you could hear screams and insane laughter and stuff. It lacked swellness. Also, my bag is now covered in menchies. Cool people like Ally Cook and Carey wrote stuff on it before, but it had to go in the wash after my highly exciting "lets go out with sinister people and be sick over everything I own" spree. So now it says stuff like "AIDS is swell", "I fukc babies", "Igor loves young girls (14-16)" and "STD's- Gotta catch 'em all". It's very cool, especially when muslims sit next to you on the bus and read it very dissaprovingly. Also there's a tampon covered in red felt tip pen dangling from it which looks quite real. I stole a foot and mouth sign and a sign that warns people about horses having anti theft devices. The horse one's in my room, but the foot and mouth one I had to give to some girl who was slitting her wrists over how grate it was. And the grate thing about spending the weekend with Anal Cunt fans is that you can do anything really embarrassing or sound ignorant and they'll go "Don't worry, she's a Belle and Sebastian fan" and people just accept that and pity me. Sorry, i have nothing interesting to talk about except my exciting journey to Fife - Land of the Inbreds. Oh oh oh I have a lot more badges now. My sleeves and back are covered too and its amazing. And I got a My Little Pony badge AND a Captain Planet badge. I had a long bus journey on the last bus out of town, and I listened to Lazy Line Painter Jane because I found it again (I lost it), and Monica Queen just drowns Struan out and its not fair. It's a grate and swell song though. The Aislers Set are good too. The guy who sings about Chicago and New York on The Last Match sounds rather like Struan. And I like Astrid and I don't care if that's uncool. Their last album is superbouncyhappydaisychainmakingilikecheesesogivemeanicelolly kind of pop that everyone should love because if they don't they're clearly suicidal. Did I tell you about what happened to me about last week? It was so surreal. I was with my friends and wearing flares and my badge jacket and these hard kids walked by and one of the girls (you know the ones with the really bad looking gold chains that say their names on it in really cheesy letters, and the soveriegn rings and the blinding white tracksuits who would be in no danger if they got hit by lightning because all their jewelery is very obviously made of plastic) said "Aw look at the states of her", and I wasn't in the mood and I just said "Oh and could you be wearing any more fake gold?" or something incredibly (not) witty like that. And all of a sudden her boyfriend (or lay for the night) stepped out and twisted his chain round his hand (the East Kilbride resident's weapon of choice) and said "Haw, do you wanna do this now?". And I just burst out laughing because I just couldn't believe that he'd said that. And then I realised that he was actually about to hit me with a chain, and he was quite drunk and he was with about 5 of his friends and I was with teenyboppers who would see me get killed rather than back me up in any kind of confrontation, so I made a quick retreat and giggled and waved from a (very) safe distance. If I've said that story already then I've got a very bad remembering head and also no sleep. I should go now and stop being a blip. Hugs, Jen Ps. Swell. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon May 28 01:36:36 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:36:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a nice day for a party, if it weren't for the robots Message-ID: <2D15D379FF255D1168650005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> my father has just stumbled through the door with thirty pounds of beef, and mother's been watching the news again and now she's fretting that the cantaloupe will strike our unsuspecting guests with a bout of salmonella. i say we should all just stick to spinach salad and beer, but, alas, it's not my party. it's never my party these days, mostly because i'm too lazy to phone anyone. my diabolically noisy roommate threw a bash in our flat the other night, and everyone much enjoyed the classic 50's decor and the abundance of cheap beer. i was hiding in my room, and managed to gather a nice bunch of kids by playing amnesiac loudly enough to balance the blaring house music in the sitting room. then we moved into the dining room and were having a wonderful discussion about sex, food, robots, and the clash, listening to some kids' demo tape (of the punk genre), when suddenly a studly male swept into the room, announced that he "hated punk," called us a derogatory term, and proceeded to turn the music down. we all sat silent for a moment, and then a dear boy kindly dressed up in a robot suit and we all took out our aggression by repeatedly punching the box covering his midsection. my other roommate had a party the next night, and the only notable event of the evening was a sweet boy with a beautiful amber ring giving me advice regarding the pros and cons of plucking vs. waxing one's eyebrows. Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Mon May 28 09:21:12 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:21:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: superficial sighs Message-ID: -Waiting for something to happen.. the feeling that something is just around the corner... the million half-baked plans that see me through the average day... -What is it this time? -I'm up earlier than I would really like to be...the sun is just starting to creep through the strips of the blinds... the patterns on floor are fleetingly fragile... I don't want to be here... but being here doesn't bother me... I'm stuck in a dream trying to reach the top of the next hill... just trying to see what over there... and I am taunted be the name that�s on the tip of my tongue, because the picture of the word that without its accompanying sound is worthless... -Ahhh... but you should stop this... I think you have got it all wrong again... stop looking forward and start looking around you, girl, you never know what you will see... I've told you before you are not old you just need to get out more... meet a few more people make a few more friends... maybe join a few clubs... you know participate a bit more... -Do you really know me at all do you have a clue what I'm on about here? I thought you did but I think I was maybe wrong... I�m sorry for the misplaced trust... It�s impossible to explain... I know you have my best interests at heart but really do have a clue what my best interests are? I don't mean to be so critical here... you are the best friend I have... we are just different I suppose... I am too shallow though... much too shallow... I am sorry... If I can just be that person around the corner you will understand... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Mon May 28 16:11:01 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:11:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's crackkin th'flags Message-ID: <98.15852473.2843c485@aol.com> Just an experiment this one. If I were too give £100 to any one who........................ No? never mind . It's a lovely day and I've got £200 in my wallet, *WOW* But it's already spent really as it's to pay for my new (old) car. DATSUN DATSUN DATSUN DATSUN DATSUN DATSUN DATSUN aLSO I'm wondering where all the people who expressed some interest in the Leicester picnic are, I can't seem to get hold of many of you. Its now on 31st of June, Victoria park at 2pm. Just let me know weather you're still up for it. Hey has anyone heard of a band called *Fifty Foot Hose* from San Francisco. They released an album called Cauldron in the 60's. On it is a song called IF NOT THIS TIME It's grate! But I can't find the album anywhere. HELP. See you. James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon May 28 18:35:51 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'd Love To Live Message-ID: <20010528173551.17792.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Golly, sinister is quiet these days. Inside Daisy Clover is not that bad. I like it, in fact. My copy is pink. Her first lover is a lad called Milton. Then she gets picked up by a studio. Books like this seem to bespeak a history - a moment - in a way that I find engaging. Has no-one else read it? England is kissed by the spring sun. England? Well, some of it. The cranes and factories along the river seem unchanged in twenty years. Then again, vast satellite dishes and new white apartment blocks now glisten across the water. The Millennium Dome is still there, in case anyone - me, for instance - was wondering. Is it still the Millennium Dome? Or has it only become the Millennium Dome this year? It seems sad, about the Dome - a sadness in our social life, to go down in history. How I wish that things had worked out better. I have lost my sense of what 'formalism' is. Has anyone seen it anywhere? It is two years since a pop group started up, on a night as gorgeously gilded as this one. Flann O'Brien wrote a good sketch about a pub called Thirst. That was a long time ago. When the world used less electricity. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Mon May 28 18:34:42 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly Trochet) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:34:42 +0800 Subject: Sinister: My apologies... Message-ID: <20010528173443.16582.qmail@mail.com> When I mentioned my teacher's age, I didn't mean to make it sound like she was really old...actually, compared to most of the teachers at my school, she's a kindergartener. I just didn't want you to assume she was middle aged. Mrs. Rumfelt probably wouldn't want you to assume she was middle aged, either. She didn't think it was all that funny on parent-teacher night when my friend's father asked her, "Are you old lady Rumfelt?" Fortunately for my friend, he wouldn't admit to being her father. -Holly -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Mon May 28 19:50:53 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: i am SO scared of my computer Message-ID: <9d.1610461c.2843f80d@aol.com> holy crap! over 200 messages. are they all about europe b&s shows? you guys need to take a nap. youve been working far too hard. -sophie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Mon May 28 21:05:47 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: beachcombing for golden nuggets of news... Message-ID: <20010528200547.98649.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Dearest Sinisterettes, Greetings from the shores of Niko. It's been an inordinate amount of time since I posted - I dodged around the flotsam of ATP (It was good; trust the reports. I also got to play cricket), then waded through the deep lagoon of pre-single/pre-tour anxiousness. But now I can dispense with the analogies and see who is left on my picnic blanket to talk to, about gigs and stuff. GIG Is ANYONE going to the Cardiff gig? I mean, it'd be cool for it to be just my 10 friends (that's all I have...sob). but I'd like my "Sinister people I've met" tally to pass 3 (that includes my crush, sadly). An email and possible pre/post/mid gig drinky could be arranged...free beer for you...? B&S BADGES have been 'discontinued', says Ms House. Should any people have spares/extras/generous hearts, I will pay OBSCENE amounts of spondoolicks for 2 (like �10 for both?). I thou art feeling generous enough to sell them to me, please email! UTILITARIANISM I was reading 'Teach Yourself Ethics' when that debate started. Freaky. MUSIC 'South' have been billed to play in Bristol twice now without ACTUALLY turning up. I am going to shout at Mo Wax. 'Mull Historical Society' are not good, I was just listening to them and they sound like fucked-up circus music. Scary 'It' Clowns as well ("Don't you want a balloon?"...shudder...) SEE SPOT RUN is the worst movie I have ever seen. Someone needed to accompany my little brother, and I 'short-strawed'. Afterwards, I went to find paint dry to realign my brain. PROMISES What with the election at all, many Sinister people may have noticed my common resemblance to a politician - unfulfilled promises. Rest assured, after June 27th, thou wilst be truly satisfied - indeed, some of you will get more than you may deserve. Does that sound sinister enough? (cue Jaws music...) LIST RULES Does the 15-minute rule apply to devising? I mean, i spend 4 months planning my emails... DOUGLAS ADAMS Proves the rule that too much exercise can kill you. Now for me to take heed and sleep...'The Hitch-Hikers Guide' is still fabulous. I checked last week as I tidied my room (a 5-day campaign...) CHARTS Yes, New Mr Chu, I really really liked it, it was (it was) wicked. That's my stomach song. There's a stupid story behind that. To be honest, I think that song deserved #1 over Radiohead. Their [Radiohead's] new album is literally "Kid B". How dull. What amazes me is how I can skim these 9 pebbles of knowledge across the Sini-sea without causing a single ripple. How sad... Ciao Tuttis, Love Niko xxx PS content - Ooh! Ooh! Singles and Gigs! Ooh! (I'm actually pleased about the former for 'Middle Distance Runner', and the second as it's a day after mon jou de vivre). And I really do read every message of yours. How many of you have seen this, I wonder... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiticuss at xxx.com Tue May 29 00:29:23 2001 From: Spiticuss at xxx.com (Spiticuss at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:29:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: my life is a glunk Message-ID: on my trip to the book shop (to get an SAT II reveiw book, which is currently driving me crazy) i had a little sit down with a few dr seuss books. i found a quote that struck me as something and i dont know what The Glunk just smiled and said "Dear child, You can't un-thunk a glunk Ask any one they'll tell you that a glunk can't be UN-thunk" Its really quite sad. The poor girl sits there thinking of soft fuzzy things, and one day she wants something exciting, so she makes this monster that can never be sent home. sigh. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Tue May 29 05:29:42 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly Trochet) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:29:42 +0800 Subject: Sinister: My apologies... Message-ID: <20010529042942.10257.qmail@mail.com> Don't worry! It's nothing like that. I just didn't want anyone to misinterpret what I said. -Holly -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Tue May 29 10:50:40 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 29 May 2001 10:50:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I survived.... Message-ID: <20010529095040.6921.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com Tue May 29 12:04:28 2001 From: christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:04:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: In depth EP review/Dudley/Me Message-ID: <20010529110428.JZME272.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.64]> Alright muckers, The new ep is total class. "Jonathan David" is Stevie's best song ever, and it has a great Zombies-eque bit in the middle. He does some proper high singing. I'll give it an 81 . Talking of which, there's a petition to get the Zombies recognised. I don't know how it's going to work but it's very important. Even Rod Argent's signed it! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/zmbievh1/ "Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove it right up your sith lord arsehole" is classic Murdoch, lovely stuff. The line is apparently "whined till you get what you want", not "wanked till you get what you want". Needless to say, I'm disappointed and for that it gets 5 penalty points, leaving it with a grand score of 45653. "Loneliness of a middle distant runner" you already know, but it's been tamed somewhat from the rocking version. It's country-tastic! I'll give it infinity. Enough content. As mentioned by cameron diaz lookalikey lulou, Dudley is bringing himself and his talented corporation fellows over to Glasgow. Go and listen to Dudley's songs at www.thumped.com/dudley and get all gushy like me. And then if you live nearby go and see him playing a pop concert in the 13th note on Saturday. I'm playing as well. So are the Nova Express. It'll be fun, come along. Yours, Christopher ==================== www.sleekasounds.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Tue May 29 13:01:27 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 29 May 2001 13:01:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I forgot.....I also have the new EP.... Message-ID: <20010529120127.4065.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From brightsupernova at xxx.com Tue May 29 14:07:51 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:07:51 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 31 degrees of heat and stress Message-ID: hi everyone apparently here in bolgna, italy, it's not spring, but summer already. and I have to prepare exams. and study. by the way, this is my first mail to the list. I find it quite difficoult to keep up with all of the emotions\advices\picnic reports\b&s gig info ....etc I wish i was closer so i could participate to a picnic as well. not many b&s fans around here, only my friends ciao for now, must study love to all Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Tue May 29 14:37:31 2001 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:37:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Please help: Desperate Request for Tickets to the Barrowlands on the 16th Message-ID: <20010529133731.67277.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there all, I'm really sorry to have to bother you all with this,but if if anyone has any spare tickets for the gig at the Barrowlands on Sat 16th, you would save my life as when I ordered tickets I forgot to get them for a couple of my friends. I stay in Glasgow so it would be easier if anyone from there could help me out, but I'm so desperate I would be willing to try and arrange to get them from anywhere!! If anyone can help, contact me in private. Sorry for wasting your time... Ba Ba ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightsupernova at xxx.com Tue May 29 14:07:51 2001 From: brightsupernova at xxx.com (C. B.) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:07:51 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 31 degrees of heat and stress Message-ID: hi everyone apparently here in bolgna, italy, it's not spring, but summer already. and I have to prepare exams. and study. by the way, this is my first mail to the list. I find it quite difficoult to keep up with all of the emotions\advices\picnic reports\b&s gig info ....etc I wish i was closer so i could participate to a picnic as well. not many b&s fans around here, only my friends ciao for now, must study love to all Claudia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Tue May 29 14:53:29 2001 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:53:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #484 Message-ID: <7d.15b0aae5.284503d9@aol.com> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Tue May 29 15:25:11 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:25:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: love will tare us apart(joy divison 1970 somthing) Message-ID: <20010529142511.20606.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> well folks as my career in full time completely government funded education declines i have to say i am not sad at all. one more exam of sixth year studies history and i never have to see the sory building that was my school again. i must say i am looking forward to having a whole month of sleeping till after 12 noon until i start my gap year. then i am going to dundee to uni, home of snow patrol. before i do all that tho i have to move house attend several parties, make about 2oo pounds and go and see the best band in the world, god i knacerd just thinkin about it. well i had better go im going to hoover the stairs and then brush up on why the anc and the pac turned to violent methods to obtain black rights in south africa, FUN ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Tue May 29 10:17:55 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:17:55 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Leigh (only one hour North of Auckland) ... are you ready to rock? Message-ID: <000301c0e86d$4f3ab260$be6137d2@computer> hey kids another long lapse in postings .... sorry. firstly, I have decided to put less ranty personal information in my posts. you see, I know *know* people on the list. as in, have actually met two listees now. which is reasonably exciting, given how long Auckland was an absolute wasteland for B&S fans .... which brings me to .... (roll fanfare) an account of the first ever ***SINISTER AUCKLAND CHAPTER MEET-UP*** (which, of course, happened *outside* of Auckland) OK, so there were only three listees there (that I know of) but nonetheless it was an excellent occasion. The occasion in question was a gig by two bands, The Brunettes and Plasticine, at a place called Leigh, which is North of Auckland. The venue is an old sawmill, and is aptly called "The Leigh Sawmill Cafe". Great place ... good wood-fired pizzas, highly recommended if any of you are ever in the area. anyway, the bands. there were actually three, but the middle one was pants so I won't bother talking about them. **Plasticine** Plasticine are great. they formed from the ashes of my favourite Auckland band, Polaar, and are a two piece, consisting of keyboards and guitar. Scott, one of the formentioned listees, is the auteur behind them, and they are really really good. I could go on about them, but he may read this, and I would be a little embarassed. Because I'm not very good are describing how things sound, other than in terms of "good" or "bad", and I might offend him with a comparison. But they were fantastic. (But you can go to http://www.mp3.com/plasticine (I think) for an MP3.) **The Brunettes** An absolute revelation. Not just one of the best New Zealand indie bands I have heard in a while. Not just one of the best New Zealand indie bands I have heard. Not just one of the best indie bands I have heard. But one of the best bands I have ever heard. No really, they are amazing. Think Jonathan Richman meets the Shangri-Las. Or something. Just fantastic, bubblegum pop'n'roll. I swear, you'd all love them. Every single one of you. So, anyway, it was agreat night, up in the middle of nowhere, listening to great indie on a dark, stormy night, and then driving back through the native bush to get home to a nice, warm b&b only slightly closer to the edge of nowhere. ***DISCLAIMER*** OK, three people meeting and seeing some bands isn't the most exciting thing in the world. but it *was* good, and it makes me happy that I'm not the only listee in Auckland any longer. right, on to the nex thing ..... ***TOWN PLANNING*** err .... what? ARE THERE ANY LONDON PLANNERS / PLANNING STUDENTS ON THE LIST? A good friend of mine is planning to come to the UK in a few months. He has a Bachelors and Masters degree in Planning from The University Of Auckland, and is interested in hearing about job prospects etc. If there are any listee who might know anything about this, and wouldn't mind having their e-mails passed on, then please let me know. he's really appreciate hearing from you. Right, to bed ...... Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue May 29 22:03:15 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:03:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: there's been an accident, oh no Message-ID: morning everybody, heres what i got up to yesterday (following the mikkelmeister's gig review, here's mine) -------------------------------------- bank holiday monday. went to middlesbrough, saw some bands in a park and in "the crypt" (the basement of the town hall) here's my synopsis SIZER BARKER liverpudlian indie 5 piece, super furryesque synths, comedy facial hair 6/10 CLEARLAKE not as good live as they are on record, a bit dissapointing 4/10 PROUD MARY a big bunch of SHITE. richard ashcroft lookalike singer with his oasis clone band (the bass player had the same bass as andy bell for god's sake) all wearing shades like it wasn't raining, huge heads coz they're sighned to noel gallagher's label with identikit oasis solos over identikit oasis chord sequences. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WATCH OR LISTEN TO THIS BAND, YOU WILL BE SEVERELY DISSAPOINTED. 0/10 COOPER TEMPLE CLAUSE while proud mary struck rock god poses, cooper temple clause *were* rock gods for the 3 quarters of an hour they were on stage, so many instruments being swapped in record time, storming through songs, literally a wardrobeful of synths, effex and drum machines (an actual wardrobe sized flightcase!). 4 vocal mics so that whoever's turn it was to sing would be near one as the drummer was the only one *not* leaping and bounding about the stage. I LOVE THIS BAND, YOU SHOULD TOO. please go and see this band live if you get the chance, i urge you. pure adrenaline, a triumph for the flared generation.10/10 here comes a panzer attack! SHED 7 woooh! after all that mayhem it's time to have a right old sing song to everyone's favourite britpop stragglers. 7/10 for effort ALFIE second best band of the day, amazing also. stoolrock at it's best, cellos are the best instrument in the world (apart from a low slung rickenbacker 4001 bass, mmmm). back to alfie, fantastic comeback from a heckler "i didn't quite catch that mate, but it looked nasty so if it *was* nasty then fuck off" original. the trumpet player got a fan's camera and went round the stage photographing the band for her, jolly nice chaps. 9/10 went to get the train back to newcastle at 7:30 but missed it by 5 minutes, bugger. had to sit on the platform till 11pm then on darlington platform from 11:20 till 12:12am then got home at around half 1, god i hate trains. wish i had a car. all together a good day though. -------------------------------------- somebody mentioned a band called BEARSUIT. i saw their single in a shop today so i had to buy it (nuff respec to whoever the mystery bearsuit fan is, thanks) a cross between bell & sebastian (boy/girl harmonies) and bis (low fi shenanigans) and incredibly twee to boot. i'm sounding like a reviews page here, forgive me. but if anybody wants me to write for their fanzine that'd be fab, i've always harboured dreams of being a writer and *my* fanzine never got off the ground. don't guitars make girls look fab, any girl can look fantastic if she picks up a guitar, it's like some magic property. and basses are even better, it nust be something to do with the proportion of guitars to girls, they complement each other extremely well. don't you think? that or i've got a fettish sorry for wasting everybody's time with this drivel, i'll go now bye Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Tue May 29 03:36:12 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:36:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: competition results Message-ID: <000301c0e8c9$705baa60$7b31073e@aqlzosqt> mmm... weekend dominated by ribena ice lollies. also by getting my hair cut outrageously short, thus ruining my supposedly pre-raphaelite image but trading it in for a much cooler jean seberg/audrey hepburn one. thanks for all your entries to the dk competition - i learned some interesting things :) here are my 5, which in fact no-one gave all of, probably because one of them isn't actually a word, on reflection: bodkin bedknob (hmm) weedkiller vodka handkerchief weedkiller was the supposed 'only' one, by the way. most people got bodkin and (quel suprise) vodka. roadkill and groundkeeper were also put forward a few times, but i think are american usage only so don't count. i've decided to arbitrarily give the mixtape to arik, who was the first to reply, although i still don't know what a 'godkin' is. i just hope he likes inexpert blends of hip hop, alt country, motown and indie pop... now, who can tell me the only word to contain all the vowels in alphabetical order? luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From filmout99 at xxx.com Wed May 30 04:04:33 2001 From: filmout99 at xxx.com (scott mannion) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:04:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Leigh (only one hour North of Auckland) ... are you ready to rock? Message-ID: *scott the ever dormant (though always listening) listee decides to add his two pennys* As 'one of the three' listees in attendance I think I should also comment on what a fantastic evening it was. It was the second time I've properly met Lawrence, and Sean (the visiting London doctor) also drove for an hour and a half to attend, my first meeting with him. It's amazing that, because of this list, you can meet a stranger and immediately have something in common with them. I also met a girl at the end of the night who I worked out listens to B&S, it seems she would be a listee but she hasn't worked out how to join yet (I know I was confused at first). I told her it was worth the effort, so maybe things are looking up down here. Come on all you closet NZ listees, this could become a beautiful thing. Unfortunately I was a little stressed out as I was doing the sound for the evening (for my own group as well), and we had problems with things breaking and stuff (if it wasn't for a friend deciding she should give me a massage, I don't think I would of coped...mmmm). The show was the first time Lawrence or Sean had seen The Brunettes, but I have the good fortune to be currently recording their debut album with Jonathan, the mastermind behind the group. My position might seem a little biased, but I really think this band is something magic, there's nothing I wouldn't do for them. Recording harpsichords and glocks and string quartets is sooooooo much fun (though going two nights at a time without any sleep is less fun :)) Though I hate the idea about talking about my own music in a list post, I feel I just have to point out a couple of thing related to Lawrence's post. Firstly (and this is going to seem very nitpicky), the project is actually called plasticene with an e. It's not Lawrence's mistake, it's my flatmates, who took it upon himself to put that song on mp3.com, and to spell the name differently (oh and the dreadful artwork has nothing to do with me either)...but I still love the guy anyway, I just didn't want to hurt his feelings for the effort he went to, and I have no idea how to change it myself :) Has there been a discussion yet about how cool 'The Prisoner' is? (60s t.v. show), recently finished watching the series. Be seeing you, Love, Scott >From: "Lawrence Mikkelsen" Reply-To: "Lawrence Mikkelsen" To: "Belle & >Sebastian mailing list" Subject: Sinister: Leigh (only one hour North of >Auckland) ... are you ready to rock? Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:17:55 +1200 > >hey kids > >another long lapse in postings .... sorry. > >firstly, I have decided to put less ranty personal information in my posts. >you see, I know *know* people on the list. as in, have actually met two >listees now. which is reasonably exciting, given how long Auckland was an >absolute wasteland for B&S fans .... > >which brings me to .... > >(roll fanfare) > >an account of the first ever ***SINISTER AUCKLAND CHAPTER MEET-UP*** >(which, of course, happened *outside* of Auckland) > >OK, so there were only three listees there (that I know of) but nonetheless >it was an excellent occasion. > >The occasion in question was a gig by two bands, The Brunettes and >Plasticine, at a place called Leigh, which is North of Auckland. The venue >is an old sawmill, and is aptly called "The Leigh Sawmill Cafe". Great >place ... good wood-fired pizzas, highly recommended if any of you are ever >in the area. > >anyway, the bands. there were actually three, but the middle one was pants >so I won't bother talking about them. > >**Plasticine** Plasticine are great. they formed from the ashes of my >favourite Auckland band, Polaar, and are a two piece, consisting of >keyboards and guitar. Scott, one of the formentioned listees, is the auteur >behind them, and they are really really good. I could go on about them, but >he may read this, and I would be a little embarassed. Because I'm not very >good are describing how things sound, other than in terms of "good" or >"bad", and I might offend him with a comparison. But they were fantastic. >(But you can go to http://www.mp3.com/plasticine (I think) for an MP3.) > >**The Brunettes** An absolute revelation. Not just one of the best New >Zealand indie bands I have heard in a while. Not just one of the best New >Zealand indie bands I have heard. Not just one of the best indie bands I >have heard. But one of the best bands I have ever heard. No really, they >are amazing. Think Jonathan Richman meets the Shangri-Las. Or something. >Just fantastic, bubblegum pop'n'roll. I swear, you'd all love them. Every >single one of you. > >So, anyway, it was agreat night, up in the middle of nowhere, listening to >great indie on a dark, stormy night, and then driving back through the >native bush to get home to a nice, warm b&b only slightly closer to the >edge of nowhere. > >***DISCLAIMER*** OK, three people meeting and seeing some bands isn't the >most exciting thing in the world. but it *was* good, and it makes me happy >that I'm not the only listee in Auckland any longer. > >right, on to the nex thing ..... > >***TOWN PLANNING*** err .... what? ARE THERE ANY LONDON PLANNERS / PLANNING >STUDENTS ON THE LIST? A good friend of mine is planning to come to the UK >in a few months. He has a Bachelors and Masters degree in Planning from The >University Of Auckland, and is interested in hearing about job prospects >etc. If there are any listee who might know anything about this, and >wouldn't mind having their e-mails passed on, then please let me know. he's >really appreciate hearing from you. > >Right, to bed ...... > > > >Lawrence Mikkelsen > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list >mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or >"unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: >http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart >david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly >deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME >April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME >May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed May 30 05:19:04 2001 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:19:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: Love is old, love is new, love is all, love is you... Message-ID: <9d.1623e385.2845ceb8@aol.com> Howdy folks, I know I haven't posted very much in a very long time so many of you probably have no idea who I am. For those that do remember my semi-coherent ramblings and ravings (and my undying defense of Ringo), I'll be leaving the list. I just don't have time to keep up with the posts anymore, although I'm sure they're as good as always, and my internet obsession has long since passed on. Its been quite a lot of fun and I hope everyone I met while on here will keep in touch (Nick Dastoor, Jeanette, Marie, Christa, you know who you are). As for B&S, I'm sure they'll make records as lovely as they always did but it seems like they're increasingly tied in with something that used to mean something to me, but just isn't there anymore. If anyone is in the area, I'll be at the University of Maryland at College Park come this Fall, so drop by, drink a few 40s and listen to records if you get a chance. My band Callow is also gonna be on a compilation next month with the Aislers Set and the Lucksmiths, and we'll be up and down the East Coast this summer, so don't be a stranger. Well, I wish I could say I'm retreating into wine, women, and song but...I am. Later Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever Call WRNR 103.1 at (410) 269-1031 and request Callow's "Lessons in Shut-eye" or you will have bad luck...forever or something. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed May 30 05:47:08 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:47:08 -0700 Subject: Sinister: A SUMMER WASTING: Los Angeles Picnic 2001 Message-ID: <00a301c0e8c3$96bfe8c0$0101a8c0@pavilion> OK.... Hushed plans were made and top-secret discussions were had in dark cavernous meeting-places, and now we're ready to emerge from underground with the announcement of A SUMMER WASTING: Los Angeles Sinister Meetup 2001, on Saturday June 9, starting at Griffith Observatory and ending up who knows where. See our webpage for more details and to sign up: www.asummerwasting.homestead.com Everyone in the western US is urged to cancel all previous plans; whether you drive, walk, thumb, crawl, or tapdance there, you *shall* attend. We'll picnic on the grass under the statue of Galileio, listen to music, dance, eat, chuck the frisbee, admire the view of the LA skyline and 'Hollywood' sign, re-enact scenes from "Rebel Without A Cause", maybe even take a short hike in the hills (is this a first, a Sinister hike?). We might even actually enter the Observatory to (gasp!) learn a thing or two about astronomy or planets or something. From there, we'll probably carpool to Aaron's Records to browse LA's largest and best selection of new & used CDs. Then to a cafe? Then to Canter's (or maybe Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles for some soul-food?) if we're still hungry. And Adrian has already scored the Ribena! BEING FOR THE BENEFIT OF SINISTER: The Pickle Prince will dance and sing, as Ernie S. flies through the ring without a sound! And Rachel C. will demonstrate ten somersets she'll undertake on solid ground. And of course, Henry the Horse dances the waltz. So don't be shy! There will probably only be about 15 or 20 of us, and we're all really friendly and nice. Honest! Bring something yummy to eat, instruments to play, and music to hear. And bring friends!! I'll have a portable CD player, and my digital camera to record the moment for those poor souls who can't attend. But if you're within a 600-mile radius on that day, we expect to see you there! Clothing optional. Love, Your Los Angeles Ambassadors-who-can't-wait-to-meet-you www.asummerwasting.homestead.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Wed May 30 08:58:57 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 08:58:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wurd to yo mama Message-ID: The word FACETIOUS contains all the vowels in order. It's my job to know these things, but then it's my job to know lots of useless facts while I play with words and pictures (I'll admit I'm feeling strange).. To anyone who's still with me - hello. Anyone who knows knows that The Hodottir is Scottish, but she lives in London where there are more bank holiday weekends than hours of sunshine. We just had one, and it was grate. I got drunk for 3 days and fell over only once (can't decide whether to blame the vodka or my new muji flip-flops), but I was glad to escape with a scuffed toenail. Sorry - this is a useless post, although I did clear up the word thing. Anyway, there's too much content to go around these days. Love, life and laundry, Miss Ho x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hrynczak at xxx.com Wed May 30 13:33:56 2001 From: hrynczak at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?mark=20hrynczak?=) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:33:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I'm a lucky man Message-ID: <20010530123356.39697.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Hey folks... I've won a competition prize! That's never happened to me before. Tickets to see B&S at the Perth gig. I don't even remember entering. Anyway, the point is that Perth is a long long way away, and the chances of me actually being able to make it there and back for the gig are looking slim. So...anybody want them? Offers involving cash, bribes, sexual favours or just a good sob story will be considered. M-p ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com Wed May 30 13:15:01 2001 From: foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com (Fox in the snow) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:15:01 Subject: Sinister: Swap two glasgow tickets (urgent!) Message-ID: > >Hi everyone, > >Sorry to bother yous again but we still need two tickets for the 16th. >We have two for the 15th so we could swap. Please help us out! :) > >Martyn >email: coolpad at btinternet.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk Wed May 30 14:50:25 2001 From: ewansinthehouse at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ewan=20ferguson?=) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:50:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: crazy crazy mary mary Message-ID: <20010530135025.21384.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> well i just had one good exam and one bad exam i wont bore you all with the dtails but i think i may have scraped a c pheyew. im sitting in the library and many thoughts are running through my mind-will hibs be any good next year, when oh when will john squire get his shit together, why do librarians get cranky when you say "BOO" to them and why do we have to work for a living, nun of that fantasy new world crap i just cant be arsed working, ya know how it is. the person sitting beside me is playing some kind of stock game and he just bought stocks in belle and sebastian. i found a really funnin yahoo club the other day called courderouy smoke, totally b&s mad, hello lazy jane. im going to bristol soon, does anybody on the list live there? could they tell me of any 'groovy hangouts' that they might feel that i might feel priveledged to know about? cheers well ive got a long walk throught the rain to get on a bus know cheerie bye e-x ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Wed May 30 23:19:05 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:19:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: mruumph Message-ID: <3B1571D9.64A5@camb.linst.ac.uk> alright chaps and chapesses, dont you think its just too hot to do a god damn thing? If i mentioned this before then i wont mention this again but WOW andy votel is THE coolest guy around. he showed us all his graphics stuff and its all brilliant. he passed round this little music box featured on the front of the badly drawn boy album and if you turn it it actually plays a BDB song. he also showed some VERY rare eps on vinyl, i was soooo tempted to run off with them. The strange thing is that i reckon he is some how related to mr gough, the evidence is in the facial hair. they both sport a kind of whispy stubble that makes them look a bit sweaty. he gave us a one day project and the best one gets it put on a flyer. My attempts are pretty poor and im tempted not to go back at 5:30, oh what do i do??????? i feel sick with nerves and its only 3:30. please remind me to have a shower, i keep forgetting and i probably smell grim. thanks hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Wed May 30 11:31:11 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Hewitt, Stephen) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:31:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my picnic's bigger than yours (or probably not) Message-ID: So, oxford picnic. Hmm, there have been various divers suggestions, but i think on balance the 23 of June has the most going for it for numerous reasons: weekends before and after are GIGS and thus pretty rubbish for random picnics and the weekend after that is the H-YOU-GE radioheed gig and thus oxford will grind to an almighty halt for the duration. The panic, the vomit indeed. More details nearer the time, but the idea is to have it in South Park, mainly because we can then follow the traditional picnic rules and have it at the top of a hill, overlooking the dreaming spires :) Also (what's that noise) on the thursday nite before, ie 21st (I'm sure I can hear something), myself and various other reprobates (it's getting louder) will be hosting our first fantastic (oh my god, it's a GIANT PLUG) !I!N!D!I!E!D!I!S!C!O! So you can arrive from your assorted territories on the thursday evening, have a top nite out, skive off on the friday and sit in the pub with me all day and then we'll have the picnic on the Saturday, is that a plan? What's that you say, i haven't told you enough about our fantastic !I!N!D!I!E!D!I!S!C!O! OK then, just this once, I'll go into detail (and if you believe that...) S&P in association with freakytrigger.co.uk present: !S!U!S!S!E!D! Thursday 21 June 10pm-2am at Club Latino, The Plain, Oxford, £3 to get in, fun and frolics with djs Carsmile, Cabbage and Cockfarmer on the decks. An evening of indie loveliness, including belle & sebastian, hefner, pulp [insert big list of indie bands here, frankly i was doing the poster at like midnite last nite and i'm not sure what i put] y'know, all the stuff you can dance to... see, doesn't that sound exciting, aren't you glad you asked :) The first nite is also the official relaunch party for freaky trigger, the fantastic music website run by the semi-sinister Tom Ewing. Hopefully we'll run every couple of weeks through the summer, if the first one goes OK, and we're on the lookout for guest djs (stoopid dj name not obligatory) if anyone wants to offer their deck skeels... xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angelfairybelle at xxx.com Wed May 30 18:18:27 2001 From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:18:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Geddes' Entry Message-ID: hey-lo, i started my new job the other day. i work for an insurance company dishing out advice over the phone. i think i quite enjoy it, i mean, answering the phone is hardly rocket science but then again i dont think i'll be doing it for the rest of my life. however, i'm getting paid �5.50 an hour, which to me is pretty damn good. swell even. i can't thank JenOwl enough. :) is there actually a picnic in glasgow? i'm all confuzzled about it. do let me know won't you? cheers m'dears. i love the smell of dove moisturising shower wash stuff. beeyooteeful. not long until b&s. cannae wait. the 16th of june will be an almighty piss up for myself and paul (providing i have money, hehe) millions sweets are the best kids. and baileys is my new drink of choice. my b/f kissed a boy last night. but it was me that told him to. =) i heard middle distance runner on the sesh in scotlad the other night. it is much the same as the one from the telly but Jordi's right, the whistles are much better. i wonder if they'll do that in glasgae? i really want them to do modern rock song, though i dunno if they will or not. guess we'll just have to wait and see huh? my head is quit tired. all the excitment of the past year has caught up with me, makes me sad/nasty from time to time and i mostly just want to sleep for a long time. but i have to pull myself together (in the words of hefner) and just carry on. everything's fine. muchos love and kisses, amy xxxxxxxxx ps the subject is the name of a lane in embra. thought PamToffyCrisp might like it, hehe ;) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Wed May 30 18:20:36 2001 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:20:36 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Declaration of Independence Message-ID: <001801c0e92c$faa69d70$709eedc2@alex> Hi, It's been a bit quiet in Sinister-Land recently. By the way is it really Sinister-Land? Maybe it's not a country but a city in say, tweepop-land. Sinister-Town. Or maybe it's just an independent island in cyberspace. Personally I kind of like the idea of Sinister-Land. It would make a great country. Honey would of course be president and Linda would be vice President. It would be great wouldn't it? Anyway, I was listening to some music the other day and just felt like playing Madonna's "Like a virgin". While listening to it I skimmed through the covertext and found the "Thank you..."-part. And guess what, after people named Judy Tint and Jeff Ayeroff I found Seymore Stein. With two hearts next to his name. I mean I know Seymore Stein is a real person and that he's a "record company man", but I wasn't expecting to find his name on a Madonna record. Pretty cool. Maybe I could be minister of culture in Sinister-Land. If I could I'd advise everybody to listen to Aislers Set's song "Hey lover". It sound like Motown meets twee-pop. A wonderful song. I wonder which song would be the national anthem of Sinister-Land. :-) Hope you're all well. ///Alexander +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Wed May 30 20:42:10 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:42:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: my first belle and sebastian dream! Message-ID: sorry for 2 posts in as many days but it's happened! in the dream i was in the cinema watching the film that B&S have done the soundtrack for but i forgot that untill i got out and i couldn't remember any of the music but in the foyer/lobby bit they were playing 'take your carrage clock...' (which i haven't heard yet, btw) and it was the finest song i had ever heard, it war a call and reply vocal between srevie and struan with the dirls doing a 'ba ba ba' bit in the background and it was all bouncy and upbeat and fun. well good tune, i hope it's really that good! john peel played bearsuit's 'hovercar' last night as i was sending my post and said he's trying to get them in for a session, groovy. bye for the noo then pez* p.s. in middlesbrough i saw two people with B&S t-shirts on but i was afraid to ask if ther were sinister, if you were, then HIYA!!!! www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Wed May 30 23:49:39 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:49:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: abuse, chicago, rhp Message-ID: <54.153d85ff.2846d303@aol.com> hey, I know this is list abuse, but was wondering to anyone in chicago, DO you know when and where Red House painters are goning to be here. I heard it was arround the 16th But i'm not sure.. Email me off list if you know thanks kate katia913 at aol.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu May 31 00:15:14 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:15:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My uni-ing days are over Message-ID: <3B1711A0@MailAndNews.com> Hello, I know this is list abuse but... What do you call a boy with no more exams? KEN! That's what you call him! Yesterday was the final ever ever ever exam ever, and it went pretty well and stuff, although he got the answers to one of the questions wrong. Grr. What went even better tho, were the DRINKS! What do you call alcohol which travels downwards into a boy with no more exams' stomach? VODKA AND RED BULL! Oh yes. Then, when he got home drunk as a skunk, he for some reason re-attempted the question again, and got it right this time. Hmm. So yes, well what does a boy do when he has no more studying to do? Hmm, the boy hasn't figured it out yet, but in the mean time he is enjoying himself, cos basically, a long holiday has just started. Yay. Maybe he can finally see that the Red Bull Dozers will have more songs recorded.. maybe he can even play guitars for them, which incidentally have more strings than a bass, so therefore 1.5 times the fun! Finding a job would also help his course, but of course, by course he actually means cause rather than course, cos that's finished of course. Woo. What do you call a boy who types random rubbish on mailing lists? Go on, guess, answer at the end of the e-mail, rather than blowing in the winds... ding ding ding. Answers and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Thu May 31 00:27:16 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (Holly Trochet) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 07:27:16 +0800 Subject: Sinister: my first belle and sebastian dream! Message-ID: <20010530232717.21291.qmail@mail.com> I've had dreams where I hear B&S songs. There was one where I heard "Expectations" and another one where I heard "Woman's Realm". I don't ever see anything, I just hear bits of the song. -Holly -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu May 31 04:59:09 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:59:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: if i'm not back in fifteen minutes... Message-ID: <352603CB27555D1168750005B80E61C3@chinacat81.wildmail.com> so i am leaving the states on friday, and my mother just turned away from the basketball game on television to make sure that i know better than to get drunk in a foreign land...even though it's legal...just in case. she's worried i'll get pissed and lose my passport somewhere and, tragically, never be able to come back to wisconsin. HA! (that's what i say to that.) i just found out that i won't be able to go to the lovely picnic before the RAH gig, as i am flying home that morning. that is, i'm flying home, provided i haven't gotten sloshed and lost my passport. hmmm..... today i was working at the great harvest bread company and a boy i met a week ago came in and apologized for some reason, handed me a cd he'd made for me, and then he went all red and left. i feel sorry because i think that i embarassed him somehow. i was embarassed too, i suppose. laura tells me to stop hiding from boys, but i have to say it's much easier to hide than it is to know what to say to a red- faced boy apologizing to you for giving you undeserved gifts in the place where you work. i believe i'll fall in love with someone who can't stand the sight of me, so that we will never have to see each other. my flat is empty except for a robot suit and a bit of silver shred in the bottom of a jar. i love silver shred....i'm gross, too. i eat great sticky globs of it. i eat it on toast, but i am occasionally tempted to eat a giant spoonful out of the jar. thus far i've been able to stifle this urge by telling myself "kirsten, you are sick." a kid just returned the squarepusher disc he'd borrowed. i was happily holding damien jurado as collateral and was sorry to see him go, but i am happy to have my disc back and i believe i should go listen to it now. love kirsten "that's not a penis, it's a goose." --my dear cherry kong Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Thu May 31 05:54:04 2001 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:54:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A Yankee in King Sinister's Court Message-ID: <003e01c0e98d$b9415120$e849fea9@user.msu.edu> Hullo lovely Sinister children, As always I hope everyone is well. I pretty well chuffed (my new word for today) that I get to see Belle and Sebastian in Scotland, and to think, I hadn't even known they were touring when I planned my trip. Yes, that's right, another yankee Sinister child is flying across the pond this summer, in four days to be exact!! I'll be bouncing around London and England and Scotland and Europe and the rest of the UK for six weeks of pure freedom and bliss. I know it's become passe, but I have to say this anyways; if any sinister children across the pond (or any American children on holiday) would like to come out and play (or would like to share a pint, my treat) then drop me a line and let me know. I figure the promise of a pint should bolster my chances. Now, it's not all shameless self promotion in this post, there's actually some relevant bits. Okay, semi-relevant. I picked up the Badly Drawn Boy album "Hour of the Wilderbeast" and must recommend it whole-heartedly. It's great, I suspect it may even be grate. I saw my first concert in quite awhile this past weekend when I caught Jets to Brazil and the Love Scene. Both are brilliant but I believe Love Scene may make a huge splash when their album comes out next month, watch your local indie shops, this one will be worth it. While at the show I was a bit disturbed by something...nobody was dancing!!! They were hardly even swaying!! Here I am with my friend standing by the corner of the stage nodding and bobbing my head and dancing a bit and acting more than a bit daft when I look around after spinning my friend in a circle to discover that no one is moving, just starring blankly at the stage. They seemed to be enjoying themselves, i suppose, but where was the mad energy, the joy of the music!! It got a bit better when Jets to Brazil came out, I suspect partly due to more people showing for the main act and more of Jets fans showing up. Still, there was what I thought to be a lack of dancing overall, and I was most disturbed by that fact. I'm also disturbed by Ayn Rand, who I think is evil and who's personal philosophy is repugnant. I just wanted to share that. JENOWL said: "The Aislers Set are good too." JENOWL obviously has excellent taste, I dare to say *grate* taste. If you aren't listening to Aisler's Set, you should be. Go. now. Find a copy of LAST MATCH and go to aural heaven. I'd like to also give massive props (how *did* that word get into my vocabulary?) to Sea & Cake. You should all also go out and buy OUI by them, it's a masterpiece, trust me. I had to buy a second copy of Black Box Recorder's FACTS OF LIFE because the US edition has two bonus tracks, both of which are amazing, can Luke Hains do wrong? Even if his 'turn pop music off week' idea strikes me as a bit daft, I still love him. BTW, do we have any other Sinister people from the Great Lakes area? I know I'm not the only Michigan Sinister person, speak up yea listees of Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, we must plan a picnic one of these lazy summer days. Be Sinister children... ...and dance, dance often and without style with pretty girls and shy boys. Jim "I didn't recognize America until I saw it on television" - Grant Morrison +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Thu May 31 13:31:01 2001 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:31:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: okay, enuf with the cuteness of ken Message-ID: hmmm...well, we've had the news of the tour that some of us can't go to for a while...now, how about some new dates? funny how some bands can plan a whole tour months in advance, i mean i've had depeche tickets for almost 2 months...sorry, i'm not bitter, just a bit hungover and it's not even 8am and i've been at work for an hour. I've been moved outta my cage at work and am now in a real office place thingy...it's scary, there's even carpet. i take comfort in the fact that where i'm sitting used to be the women's loo. i need more things for my little cubicle, it looks empty...i put up a picture of the husband, the kittens and my sister's old modeling picture...oh yeah, heehee...i put up a picture of my perforated friend, he has 43 piercings and this bright orange hair, and i have convinced half the old ladies here that it's me b4 i started working here...i brought in my battery operated pez dispenser, but i need more pez, the cleaning staff keep eating them all. god i'm so bored i wanna cuddle with carsmilesteve...heehee. whisper whisper whisper...ugh, these silly old ladies, apparently my tattoos can be seen through my shirt...i only have two, and they're covered (mostly) by a wife beater under my shirt, it's not like i have full sleeves done, not like...*swoon* cute boy last weekend. /me takes a few minutes to think of the cute boy he met last weekend...okay i'm done. ugh, it's so quiet here...i have to play my cd's really quiet, and i got caught listening to radio 1, so they took away realplayer...grump grump grump...and why do canadian adults think of belle and sebastian as country music? oh wait i'm an adult, but you know what i mean, ppl in authority like...y'know, real adults... actually, i've infiltrated the collective here and have converted a few folk, who will be posting soon...yay. we're all excited about the new ep thingy, and maybe an impending show... the cafeteria lady here, her name is sunshine, and it suits her very much, almost makes me forgive my parents for naming after a cartoon character...almost. i could dance all night like a soul boy, but i know i'd rather drag myself around the dance floor... okay, gotta go do work or something...they finally hired another fag in here and he's coming over to my desk to screw up my 'pooter so we can go run away and have breakfast... see ya sweeties, and congrats to all who have finished exams especially kenbastard... a. The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories." -Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snowyminor at xxx.com Thu May 31 16:04:07 2001 From: snowyminor at xxx.com (Michelle R.) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'll let you hold my hand Message-ID: <20010531150407.73952.qmail@web11702.mail.yahoo.com> Damn my spending-on-impulse. Here I am trying to save money and what do I do?? I buy $ 55 worth of concert tickets over the weekend-that's what I do! It's just that I was watching Air's 'Eating, Sleeping, Waiting, and Playing" documentary and so I go and buy a ticket to see them! I had planned to go with my friend but then I backed out because of the cost of the tickets. But now I AM going. Then I bought a Doves ticket that I really don't need but oh, what the hell...they're good right? guiltguiltguilt Well I have 2 more weeks of classes. That's good news at least. Bad news though is that I have finals. I need a vacation! My friend's going to Acapulco and asked if I wanted to go but (see above for reason) I'm not obviously. mmmmm yes. It would be nice though right? 80F weather, the sun shining down on your beach towel while you lay there soaking up some rays (after putting on some SPF 30 of course)...taking a sip from your cool Corona/Pi�a Colada/insert other icy tropical beverage here, waves gently landing upon the sand, while the birds sing in the palm trees. hm. So does anyone know what round trip tickets to Acapulco cost? So I was thinking that maybe 'Storytelling' will be out in the states first...so maybe the soundtrack will be out first here too? In this week's Entertainment Weekly it has a little snippet about what the film's about: '[T]here's no shelter from the dark mischeif of Storytelling, a new meditation on the futility of family, creativity, intellectual pursuit, racial understanding, and the entire state of New Jersey, in which the uniquely creative New Jerseyite anticipates every objection to the director's bilious worldview.' So there ya go. Mr. Jim mentioned Black Box Recorder- a great group. I think the title track from 'The Facts of Life' is such a damn sexy song. Kinda makes you feel like moving your hips from side to side. I also heard about the ban on pop music for a week and, well, I think it's probably not going to be a success. Now about those tickets... ===== la hora de verdad es la hora de la soledad ~ Jorge Enrique Adoum __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kayemess at xxx.com Thu May 31 16:11:10 2001 From: Kayemess at xxx.com (Kayemess at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:11:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: That weird AOL girl from the adverts; ramblings Message-ID: <9.163ca9de.2847b90e@aol.com> Hello Bunnies, 'Tis been well over a year, I reckon, since last I addressed this list. I'm using my crap AOL account, which I dislike even more after seeing those creepy UK adverts with the red-headed woman with the psedo-breathy voice and scrolling shift dress. What's she on about, anyway? I've not bought my London ticket (have decided not to go to Glasgow as a) cannot afford and b) would also quite like to see Sonic Youth on same night. Oh Thurston Moore, oh Thurston Moore. I could write so many haikus about the lovely, lanky Thurston Moore. Won't do, however, for fear I'll be ejected from this list on a permanent basis.) . Anyhoo, have not bought London tickets because, uhm, I don't want to sit by myself., if seats are indeed involved So if any of my, like, three friends on this list were planning on buying an extra seat or what have you, maybe you could let me know? I've broken off a long-termish relationship this week, if only due to my own selfishness. I think I want another year before returning to the US, so I'm contemplating a few options. One is to flee to Japan and make my fortune teaching English (application is already at the Nova Group's head office). Another is to figure out a way to extend my visa and keep working for Arm*n*, but perhaps in the press office or somesuch. I don't really know where to go, and I feel like the mostest awfullest person ever, as the boy keeps calling and saying, "Don't worry, we'll work this out." And I keep saying, "We didn't have an argument. We broke up. That's why I haven't called you." Am I heartless? Am I awful? In any case, please accept this posting to the list as a number of pleas to my dear Sinister agony aunts. Am currently in search of therapeutic activities, and I'm MOST interested in my favorite Mark's new football organization. Question: do I have to wear shorts or can I just play in my regular clothes? I find football shorts a little creepy. I'll be the halfback in the jeans and heels. FYI, Mark and Vic, I've discovered that the 10k has no places left, which is utterly disappointing. Nevertheless, we'll be first in line next year, if I manage to stay in the UK. Okay? Okay! See you both and Miss Alder soon? I'm not naming any names, but someone's completely shattered my image of what Honey ought to look like. Thus, I'm never, ever, ever coming to a picnic. I prefer to imagine that all the boys on this list really do have floppy haircuts that fall in their eyes, and all the girls wear cardigans and pleated skirts. Well, maybe if I'm invited to a picnic, I'll stop by for just a few minutes... Well, actually, if I've not missed it, maybe I should pop by the next Greenwich picnic. It is, after all, within walking distance of my tiny flat. Okay, okay, I'll come to the picnic. You've twisted my arm sufficiently... Right. I must quit this nonsense right now. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewbutler at xxx.com Thu May 31 18:07:04 2001 From: rewbutler at xxx.com (Rob Butler) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:07:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nina mia na saba kuku Message-ID: On Thursday, 8 Jan 1998 (I kid you not!), Stuart Gardiner wrote: >Someone mentioned that B&S could play the Royal Albert Hall. Well on >the basis that someone said a while back that B&S were only playing >Manchester Town Hall because of the architecture, I'd say it's a real >possibility. They probably couldn't sell it out yet, but in a few months >time who knows? It would suit them perfectly, I hope they do because it >would be ****ing awesome... And then, one week later, he also wrote: >Oh, and if the band really do read this list occasionally, can I get down >on my knees and beg you to play a gig(s?) at the Royal Albert Hall? That >would be the most incredible experience ever... Well, it's only taken 3 years and 5 months, but it proves that the band really do take notice of what the fans want. We should all thank Stuart G for suggesting it in the first place. Those irritated by Jubilant UK fans who can't stop going on about it should note that, searching in the archive for Royal Albert Hall produces nearly twice as many matches from early 1998 as May 2001. Plus there were only about 200 people on the list then anyway. Having said that, everyone calls it RAH! now, which is good, but means that my figures are biased. Who cares. Other things... Come to Ipswich everyone! I've been doing some research, and roughly half of the tickets are still on sale. Some friends and I are going to stay in a nice campsite, with swimming pool and bar no less, only a stone's throw (4 miles - you just have to be good at throwing stones) from the town centre. It's easy to get to from London, Cambridge, and more or less anywhere else in SE England, and there are early trains in the morning to get to work if you're that way inclined (like me). Jonathan and David. I haven't heard the song, but the story of Jonathan and David seems perfect B&S material. There is much controversy over whether J & D were lovers or just good friends. For example, this passage, from 1 Samuel: "...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself." is about as smutty as the bible gets. Apart from Songs of Solomon, the 'Lady Chatterley's Lover of the Old Testament'. Anyway, even today there are heated arguments between biblical fundamentalists & liberals, etc etc. Enough biblical smut. I learned a new word yesterday - I always thought floccinaucinihilipilification was the longest word ever, but apparently there is a disease called pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I'd love to be diagnosed with that, purely to see the expression on the doctor's face when he has to break the news. Something to do with breathing in volcanic dust, I think. Can anyone recommend some good lounge music? (a la Songs for the Jet Set) Lounge music is good, as is pseudo-Mexican music and Eastern European folk music. Am I the only one who has a Serbian folk ditty as my mobile ring-tone? Yes, thought so. I saw Le Gout des Autres the other day. It's a new French film, and is very good. I hadn't heard of it, but just turned up at the arts cinema and saw the first film that was showing (always the best way to do it, I reckon). The theme tune is fantastic - very French kitsch. Apparently it was nominated for an Oscar, so perhaps I should have heard of it. Anyway, go and see it if you get a chance. It's funny, touching, and in French. Well, the working day is nearly over, and I had better head off home. It's a nice evening - I look out over Westminster Cathedral, and it looks all orange and Mediterranean in the evening sunlight. One day I must bring my camera to work with me before my work finishes (I'm temping). I love sunlight on summer evenings. I'm sure I had some real reason for posting to the list, but never mind. Signing off... Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Wed May 30 20:16:25 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:16:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: that would be an arrow lying right there, sir, and a man crouched behind a rock: more orders, sir? Message-ID: <3B154709.7852F17C@netscapeonline.co.uk> DISCLAIMER: this is not about religion, just hard to avoid a story that is in a certain book, the general gist of which is another matter entirely. "...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself." is about as smutty as the bible gets. Apart from Songs of Solomon, the 'Lady Chatterley's Lover of the Old Testament'. Anyway, even today there are heated arguments between biblical fundamentalists & liberals, etc etc. says Rob Butler I found myself on the train this morning reading the Bible and taking notes, which is something I, erm, don't normally do. For those of you unfamiliar with the story (as I was), God has decided that King Saul of the Israelites has an attitude problem and goes about finding a new model. This wee shepherd from Bethlehem (sounding pre-emptive, huh? the Bible's good at the prequels) plays a mean lyre, and charms his way into the King's chambers, and being fraternal or however with Jonathan, King Saul's son. Anyways, the wee kid also has a way with a slingshot and after the Philistine (an enemy of the Israelites) Goliath is dispatched Dave's reputation begins to outshine the increasingly jealous king. David fears for his life, and plans to take an extended vacation over the feast of the New Moon (why don't we have those hols any more?) to test the water vis-a-vis King Saul's attitude issue. Being buddies with our Jonathan, he confides in him and they arrange some weird codes involving arrow-shooting whilst David hides behind a rock in a field. The idea is, once Jonathan has presented David's excuses to his dad when David doesn't turn up for tea, he'll get the measure of how pissed off the old man is with David. Turns out he is, so Jonathan fires an arrow, tells his boy-servant (all these wee boys!) to go fetch it then when he's at it yells loudly that it's still beyond him. This is the cue for David to scarper. The plan B was for Jonathan to fire three arrows and, on sending his wee fella to go get them, he'd a yelled 'they're lying beside you!'. Quite what the young servant is supposed to make of these bizzare instructions is anyone's guess, but I suppose it's code for : the single arrow that goes beyond is David's direction in life and, if it were three arrows beside, well, that's Jonathan, David and dad King Saul a happy unit again. What's cool about Biblical plotting is that both scenarios ultimately occur. When Dave's the big man in charge, he gets news of the deaths of Saul and his sons, inclvding (sorry, gone latin there in my typing-haste) our Jonathan. Curiously, the former who bode him ill and the latter who done good by him get equal treatment, when David writes a wee song in honour of their memory, with much use of a lyric to the effect of 'How the mighty have fallen.' Now I know it's not God alone who knows the lyrics to Belle and Sebastian's version, or take or what, but it won't be long now till we can all find out. You can see, by the way, I'm no Biblical scholar and forgive my irreverent tone if you're a fan of thee olde piety, but I'm human, all too human :) Gordon P.S. That utilitarianism thing is plain daft like: is getting drunk good or evil? Is is good cos it makes me happy; evil cos it gives me a hangover? Evil cos it's a general annoyance, or good cos it pricks a few ballons? Or baloons, if you speak English... Perhaps I should quit whilst I'm behind, and you can't see me... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Thu May 31 21:51:45 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:51:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: There's never alot of things, it's always myriad this and myriad that Message-ID: <31.159f7b58.284808e1@aol.com> Buona serra amici, I write to you all from amid a gently ebbing flock of white, fuzzy, pretty, floating ALLERGY BOMBS OF DEATH!! They are everywhere. Outside, inside, anywhere that has wind to carry them basically. No one knows where they come from; I've surveyed all my friends. Oh they are indeed pretty, but I've got the sniffles something awful. Lots of oddly pretty things have been happening as of late. Yesterday while out driving it had rained but the sun was warming the pavement by then. The roads were steaming and the remaining water was being churned into mist by the cars. Pretty. Then, though what clouds it came from I don't know, it began to hail. Hail is really sparkly and pretty in the sunshine. For once I was pleased by the ever shifting weather. Now for the content. I do have some this time, really. I have been given an assignment in my microsoft office class. We have to make a commercial. I am making mine about B&S coming oot with Jonathan David. It's a power point presentation so it isn't a proper commercial, but, excuse me being an asshole, I kick serious ass at powerpoint presentations. Though thankfully this one will remain in the confines of the Windsor Locks High School computer and business department. I'm hoping that my teacher will keep it as an example and someday when some other kid is doing his/her commercial project they will see it and think "This is not only a powerpoint presentation of absolutely staggering brilliance, but this band sounds awesome. I will check them out." Perhaps I could make that into a subliminal message...mwahahaaaaa Also, I have just seen the cover of the new single. Surely this calls for a celebratory toga party. I've never been to one, but my friend has. It yielded some excellent pictures. I am currently obsessed with making a cd called "No Cohesion" I want to see if a cd can still work if the songs on it a largely unrelated and no attention is paid to putting them in a particularly flattering order. Will it still be pleasing if each song is a bit of a jolt from the one before it? I imagine it can and will, beautiful chaos, like life. Oh and I've started official work on that oil painting I was so worried about a while back. I actually ended up illustrating a bit from Peter Carter's Judy story. I have saved all the mails I got suggesting other works of literature and plan on looking into them over the summer. If this lack of cohesion thingy works out alright I could send it to those people as a show of gratitude. When I actually do it. I'm pretty good with ideas, it just takes me a while to get to their realization sometimes. I liked gordon's last post. Is that all from me? I certainly hope so. I love you all. I hope you find yourselves suddenly surrounded by delicious food. Kara Jean* "What IS your aversion to the letter Z? I think it's a perfectly WONDERFUL letter, as far as a letter can go." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+