From michael at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 00:43:47 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:43:47 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Kissing just for practice In-Reply-To: <20011031221710.69800.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011031221710.69800.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011031164347.E22856@24-205-57-185.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 02:17:10PM -0800, Rachel fruitloop wrote: > myself, for now. But Mr. Ryan also lives near me, so it's a bit > different because I get to see him in person and actually know him. This just brings up the never-ending question of why there never seem to be LA Sinister picnics. Especially on gorgeous days like we've been having recently... you could see the Hollywood sign from Santa Monica, and the downtown was all sparkly beautiful last night as I drove home. And of course up in the foothills where I live there were mountains covered with morning sunlight as I sat and had breakfast... We could have a Sinister hike up in Zuma, but maybe some have been sitting in front of the computer typing up your list crushes too long? Tsk tsk, dears. m. -- "We are not here to fuck the band, we are the band." -- Corin Tucker, Sleater-Kinney +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 00:08:25 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 00:08:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: ned flanders! he's dead! Message-ID: <20011101000825.56416.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> this is going to be a self-pitying post, so if you're not into that sort of thing, skip on to the next one. I recommend reading it, if only for the reason that it might make you feel better about your own life. I finally did it. I broke down and told my friend jake that I like him in that fun kissing way. we dated for a little while about a year ago, but we decided (well, he did) that we should be friends. I like having him as a friend, but I can't help but feel things for him that I probably shouldn't. unfortunately, he doesn't feel that way about me. apparently he finds me attractive, and he likes me, but not that way. it makes about as much sense as that sort of reasoning ever does, but I do understand it. now I have to decide if I want to continue being his friend. the best part was, he stayed at my place until almost 5:30am. then went over to his room. came back and told me he was locked out. so we stayed up until 7:30, when his roommate was getting up for class, getting pissier with each other as time went on. oh, people suck. I just need someone to hold and to hold me. smoking at my window while listening to galaxie 500 just isn't cutting it. -this has been eric. ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AWillia at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 09:05:29 2001 From: AWillia at xxx.com (Andrew Williams (UKHQ - Merch)) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 04:05:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lost property Message-ID: Well. Some mad Greek bird said: > AndRew Williams hasn't posted for a while... why > Andrew? And you can't really argue with that. I'm lazy. I've become settled in my role as a perpetual lurker. I don't really have much to say. Last time I said something it all got taken the wrong way and ended in tears. I'll be more careful this time. So anyway, Vel and others have commented on the Divine Comedy splitting up. A very sad business. My view is that they went from being a big small band to being a small big band and it didn't quite work out. The world is a poorer place without them, and I for one do not believe that Divine Comedy=Neil Hannon. David Moore talked about the Gorkys album, and boy was he right. Shame it hasn't really sold that well, but isn't that always the way? Other things of great beauty: The Beachwood Sparks album, the Kevin Tihista album and the Tompaulin album. Right, that's the boring stuff out of the way. I work in London for a chain of shops, and have to sit in on/coordinate various meetings in the run up to Christmas. For work purposes, "Christmas" is defined as the period between the 5th of November (that's this Monday, kids) and January 14th. Now, in ballpark terms, this means that 1/6th of our lives are taken up with Christmas. Now, I dunno... I just think there's something wrong about this. I'd guess it's worse in the States, cos Halloween is a much bigger deal, right? But it seems to me it's only a matter of time before everyday is always "something" - don't get me wrong, if I worked as the guy who made up little rhymes in cards or something I'd be made up. Maybe it's just emotional overload. There just doesn't seem to be as much to get excited about anymore. Hmm. That wasn't very exciting either. With that, I'd better be off. I'll try to write again soon. It's possible that over the weekend someone from Sinister may be EXPOSED as a MURDERER. But I'll keep you posted. On a Belle & Sebastian related note, they played TBWTAS in the pub we were playing darts in the other night, which may go some way to explaining why I played so fantastically. Well, fantastically badly. all the best, Andrew. PS - Vel isn't really a mad Greek bird. I've heard she can cook pissed bird though. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 12:25:36 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:25:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: To be discontinued... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058FD7@PIKACHU> OK, make the most of this, it doesn't happen very often. Yes, I've got some B&S content! This review of the B&S Rio gig is on the NME website... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rio's warm weather seems to have melted all of Belle & Sebastian's cool. The band, known for their distant looks and unattainable image, give a fantastic performance when closing the first night of the Free Jazz Festival in Rio. Isobel Campbell - who stayed at home for fear of flying after the World Trade Center and Pentagon terrorist attacks on September 11 - misses what is likely to be considered one of the band's pivotal live performances in years to come. Stuart Murdoch and his pals never normally look this happy, jumping around and dancing frantically. And the crowd certainly approve, as the sold-out venue cheer almost non-stop. B&S perform no less than 17 songs, including two Brazilian hits: 'Baby' by Caetano Veloso and 'Minha Menina' by Jorge Benjor - both made famous by Brazilian cult band Os Mutantes. During the performance of the latter (sung by guitarist Stevie Jackson), members of the crowd are invited to join in the fun onstage. So much for cool... .. The Scots also, of course, bash out hearty renditions of their own classics - the highlights including 'I Fought In A War', 'Me And The Major', 'Don't Leave The Light On, Baby', 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' and 'Legal Man'. B&S's performance is a great closing to a lovely evening out. ------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds like the reviewer didn't go to any of the gigs on the UK tour, then... Still, not a bad review... Meanwhile, Katie was talking about earthquakes. And I know how she feels. Because we had an earthquake right here in Nottingham on Sunday afternoon. Admittedly, it was only a tiddler, about a 3.8, but by British standards that's a major event. We were on the news and eveything. Even if the only effect it actually had was to make people wander out onto the street saying "What the hell was that?". The Pulp album is, well, underwhelming. It has its moments, mainly the moments when you can tell Scott Walker was around at the studio, like the end of Sunrise. But we were hoping for so much more... My hopes are now resting on the Tompaulin album which I shall be heading to the shops to find at the weekend (although worryingly it doesn't include "It's a Girl's World", surely one of the best songs of the last year). I would also like to send a get-well-soon message to, erm, my car. Which had to get towed to the garage this morning. It's been to five B&S gigs, you know. Several hundred years ago, on November 5th, Guy Fawkes tried to blow up parliament and kill all the politicians. Can someone please explain why we celebrate the fact that he failed? Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zcraw96 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 13:16:54 2001 From: zcraw96 at xxx.uk (Christina McDermott) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:16:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We're going to the Zoo..Zoo...Zoo...You can come too...too...too Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011101131654.00874210@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Hello again there my little Sinisterines, Hope you all had a super-lovely Halloween. Mine was ok. I got dressed up and went Trick or Treating around my halls with my flatmates which was amusing, even more so when I got back to my kitchen to find the two Maths students attempting to solve a problem with the girl Maths student shouting at the boy Maths student that he was a stoner moron for not being able to help her at that particular moment in time (which was about midnight I hasten to add) and the boy Maths student looking at the girl Maths student with huge puppy-dog eyes (because he has a huge crush on her) and just going "You're amazing..." whilst she throws a textbook at his head. All highly amusing. Can I join the Sinister under 20s club please? I'm 19 in two weeks (hooray!) so although I'm only going to be a member for a year, you can all come around to my house and eat sweets and play Transformers and giggle and do silly childish things, like walk along the road speaking in only (appalling) Scottish accents and taking silly pictures in Photo-booths. Can we all make little badges and stickers with little stars on them? That would be super-cool. Everyone keeps going on about how great the Rachels and the Wills are. *Pout* What about us Chris's? Nobody seems to want to join our team! We may be the minority, but that doesn't stop us from being able to wipe out the Rachels and the Wills by stealth (wa-ha-haaa). Oh just you wait and see. We'll get out own back and then the 'Chu will be mine again...all mine! Rachel OJ-Your ex sounds like an evil bastard who was not worthy of your wonderness. He should be thrown out of a huge window in retribution. You should just do what me and my best friends did to one of my evil ex's. (This guy was the antithesis of a bastard by the way. Don't ask me to go into reasons why or I'll be here all day, but basically it goes along the lines of what hapenned to poor Rachel OJ.) Anyway honey, it works thus. First-Find a friend of theirs who speaks a foreign language. It can be any, so long as you have a translator handy. Second-Find the worst insults you can contemplate in that said language. For example-"You give love to ugly horny sailors" "You give much love to donkeys" and the ultimate "You give love like in bad wank magazines." Thirdly-Translate these into said language and send them from an anoymous number to your ex's mobile phone. The ex will then go to their friend who speaks the foreign language and ask it to be translated. Said friend will roll about with laughter pointing at them and giving them an inferiority complex. After about a month, their reputation and self-worth will have vanished. I don't care what anybody else says. Vengeance is sweet. But crushes....they're the sort of thing to break your heart and resort to you staying in your room and listening to the Trembling Blue Stars. Last night, I realised that I will never taste the love of the foxy barman in my halls pub...mainly due to that fact I walked in and found him doing a rather "interesting" dance routine with a chair to N-Sync and going on about how much he loved Justin. *Sob* They're evil, evil things. Best to conduct that kind of love from afar and sweet little posts and cards sent to your email *sigh*. I have far too many list crushes to name. I'm so pathetic. The only thing you'll ever get out of them is love children and heartbreak and a boy living in your room for three weeks eating all your bread... Anyway...*aherm* PICNIC!!!! Yes...me and the Picnic daddy "The Hatchback" are attempting to organise a picnic on the lovely Primrose Hill on the 17th November. (Note the date change as one of my lurker friends wants to come too and can't do it on the Sunday). Ken-If it rains, we can all go to the pub. *Duh* If anybody wants to help or come along or just tell me how wonderful I am and how sorry you are that you missed the madness that was the Manchester Picnic just email me. I am kind of doing this for my own benefit though-it's my birthday on the 15th of Novemeber *hint hint* and also it's the Track and Field night at the Betsy on the 16th apparently which is always good fun. Or you could just tell me I'm a freak for wanting a picnic in the middle of Winter, but so it goes. This is me. It's currently lovely and Autumnal in London at the moment with watery sunlight filtering through my window everytime I wake up and if I'm lucky "True Love Waits" by Radiohead on the radio. (The most utterly lovely Radiohead song I've heard in a long, long time. I cried when I first heard it because I'm a huge softy.) Unfortunately, once I've woken up I need to do Russian revision or read Plato, but that first moment when you're snuggled in bed with your teddy bear and feeling all sleepy and happy is so lovely. So now I'm off home away from the History computer room which smells like school dinners. So it goes. Love and kicking dead leaves about on the way home Cay Cola-Cube xXx P.S. Big Stu-Very amusing Sinister football report, but that can't have been the Hatchback there reporting! He was too constrained! Usually he's jumping about all over the place after just two cups of coffee... :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 21:49:46 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:49:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: like taking candy from a terrorist Message-ID: <001101c1631f$37114820$586a073e@aqlzosqt> looks like i am too late for rachel fruitloop's inevitable report back. but anyway i find halloween stupid, mainly because for 364 days a year children are told NEVER, not in any circumstances, to take sweets from strangers. then on halloween the poor things are positively encouraged to go round to strangers' houses and actually DEMAND sweets off them. wrong. so b&s have uk dates coming up in december, apparently. although i'm never normally inclined to trust jo whiley, who doesn't even know that being barefoot does not a good interviewer make. now for my own stab at being fruitloopishly referential: rob wrote: I regard semi-colons as a grammatical offside rule; ask people to explain it and they start confidently, then hesitate before backtracking and starting again. Did I do that right by the way, Archel? hm. do you know, i would have used a full colon there personally. however, i'm not going to make an idiot of myself by trying to explain; nor am i going to use a semi-colon ever again in a sinister post, just in case i don't do it properly after all. incidentally, one of the writers in the festival i'm currently involved with had to pull out because of a 'perforated colon'. which is quite an appropriate sounding injury for a writer... robin has multi-coloured pens. i'm so jealous. i hope i get them in my new job, also colour-coded stickers for the revolutionary filing system i will undoubtedly implement. as for anthrax in lovehearts - this freaked me completely as my friend gave me some lovehearts the other day which he had apparently got through the post from virgin mobile. i was a bit dubious about it at the time, but having determined not to let paranoia get in the way of my sugar consumption, ate them anyway. so if this is my final post, you know why. pez mentioned the two versions of harry potter. why *is* the title different in the us? considering that the 'philosophers stone' of the title refers to the specific alchemical legend (which i doubt has a different name stateside) what is the POINT of changing it? if you treat audiences like they're stupid, you'll make them stupider.... elise's hilarious merit badges reminded me of matt groening's 'life in hell' stuff, and had a similar effect on the dryness of my pants :) but then my sinister Post of the Week, possibly Year, came in from big stu, and i was really in trouble. almost out of clean dry pants. i never thought the idea of me rendering a will infertile would make me laugh so much. genius. luv archel toast xxx (luckily mr hatchback's bread revelation will not interfere with my toast plans - when we are living together matt will be baking fresh bread for me every morning. i've decided.) *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 14:04:33 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:04:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I'm making puns for us Message-ID: <20011101140433.96209.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Something tells me I've been posting far too much (shite) these past few weeks so I'll think I'll make this my last one before I disappear into a period of lurkerdom so my legend becomes even greater. "Did Robster actually exist?" "I met him once. I think." "Did he EVER post about B&S?" Thats what they'll say. Before you know it I'll be a cult figure. I've frequently been called a cult, I think, but then my hearing's quite poor. Stuart Gardiner relayed the thrilling showdown between the Wills and Rachels. This poor laptop hasn't been laughed at so much in weeks. Worryingly, he mentioned a future Roberts/Robins face off. Now I don't think there has been any formal declaration of war on this front and I certainly have nothing against any of the Robins or Robyns on the list... Ah what the hell - Oi Stout! I'll see you in the playground at home time. Bring yer anecdotes. We'll soon see who works in the more bizarre office! Grrr! 'The Office' is bluddy superb, by the way, and so close to the truth it's almost too excruciating to watch. Talking of TV comedy, I was at Broadcasting House last night for a screening of the new series of 'Big Train' (those who religiously follow my posts will know this). It was hilarious and you'll be able to see it next year but with the sound of me laughing all over it. Without giving too much away, the new series features the best use of Kevin Rowland in a comedy sketch ever. I think the under 20s love club is a bad idea too but that's because I'm an old git. Maybe some of us should start meeting exclusively at over-25 bars just cos we can. Actually that's a terrible idea; over 25 bars are horrible. Let's just keep it one big happy loved-up list can we. Apart from the Robins.* Robster * Joking!! ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matthew.willson at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 16:48:56 2001 From: matthew.willson at xxx.uk (Matthew Willson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:48:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: oxford and picnics and city lights In-Reply-To: <200111011351.NAA29765@missprint.org> Message-ID: Hullo everyone :-) Having been refered to as a 'lurker friend' by the wonderful Photojenni I thought it would be a good point for my first post :) I'm quite excited by the prospect of picnics as I've never been to a sinster one before - do such things ever go on in Oxford? if not then perhaps we should do something about it - I could think of a few nice places for one. Although I only moved here for uni about a month ago so perhaps someone can suggest somewhere nicer :-) I will be making the trip down to primrose hill for Cay's birthday picnic though, which is doubtless going to rock... she's going to help me find a duffel coat too.. yay! (it's cold here) The sudden keeness on picnics maybe stems from my random wish to get out of the city this morning... (is oxford a city? hmm.. still) one of those claustrobic hangovers that make you want to gasp for fresh air and forget everyone but your best friends for a few hours. I think a picnic would make a suitable respite from 'the big city where a man cannot be free..'. especially the london one :) (humour me, it's part of my ongoing project to describe every aspect of life with my favourite song lyrics :) Oxford is a nice town really though. It's very spooky at night, in places. Or I think so anyway. I like this. I could walk around the city at night alone and not do anything and still feel kinda special... maybe i'm *cliche* in love with the city lights.. i have already named a band after them :-) but they can get claustrophic at times too. I've been planning on going and drawing selected spooky old buildings at night from weird angles and combining them into a kinda city light blur picture... but it never seems to happen. I'm too lazy to be an artist. :-) Stop me if I make no sense at all... *random fact* I woke up with a bruised toe this morning. I also had no idea where it had came from until I realised I was kicking inanimate objects in a drunken manner last night :-( After dealing with a rather confusing/tearful 'I really like you but I can't get involved' talk with the girl who's leaving before christmas... and then having to take over the decks after half an hour of nu-metal and convince everyone they want to dance to Le Tigre and the Velvet Underground and Life without Buidlings (and The Make-up! thanks Cay). Surprisingly it worked rather well, although I got one 'play something I fucking recognise' complaint.. hm :) Ooh... I've just remembered I'm maybe supposed to mention something about b&s when posting here :-) As cay will tell you (are you known only as photojenni on here? or will Cay do?...) at our band rehearsal on sunday our lovely guitarist/drummer Al made the following little (perhaps mildly ironic) observation about us poor b&s fans: "It's kinda like being gay... you can see where they're coming from and respect them for it, but you wouldn't want to do it yourself"... Hmm... for some reason that had us all laughing our arses off... I don't think the choice of analogy was intentional :) he does some wicked drumming on my indiepop/post-rock stuff though. And can do kinda one-man godspeed you black emporer material with a delay pedal and a guitar. So he's forgiven. hehe The band by the way is called The Endless City Lights and are going to be great once we get our act together and practise :) Can someone explain the mix tape battle to me? can I be in a team? and why is it rachels and wills? is being called rachel or will a prerequisite? or does that not matter? it's doing my head in :-) Ooh and are there any other oxford kids on here? I've met a few likely suspects so far actually, come to think of it :-) there should be picnics and stuff. although not scary ones. :-) I've just realised I used way too many smileys... I'll stop boring you all now anyway, I have music to listen to and work to do (guess which comes first) Goodbye for now then Matt xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Thu Nov 1 17:00:35 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:00:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Up, up, up, up, down Message-ID: <000001c162f6$c4ce0f00$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> Hello darlings! Always nice to read your wonderful posts yes :) I don't really know how to write a good post, or how to figure out how to write a good post. See, I don't think (I can't think), I just write. I must have the lousiest memory ever. Ok, so everyone forgets the dentists appointment once in a while, or forgets to bring this thing to that place. But all the time? When I was younger and went on holidays with my family (I still go with them) I used to forget my wallet everywhere. I mean *everywhere*. Hotelrooms and toilets were the most common places. Dressing rooms are another popular place. My family got (gets) rather annoyed with me, especially once when I forgot my bellybag in a "road-café"-loo and we'd driven off on a narrow road with nowhere to turn around for several miles. It's not *that* bad now, I almost always remember to bring money and credit card with me, but I do forget keys and other stuff a little now and then. or misplace it. and I often don't seem to remember what I did the other day, or last week. Oddly, I usually remember what I did when I was drunk that night out. Guess I haven't been drunk enough yet. But because of my almost-non-existing memory I thought (ok, I DO think a little sometimes...just a little) I'd start writing little day by day. Like a bit of a diary. Cause that's what this list really is, for me anyway - The Diary. "Someone" you can tell about your problems and woes, thoughts and dreams, joys and blisses, everything. And the best thing is, that there's actually (hopefully) someone on the other side who listens and cares. How would you say in english...shared joy is double joy, shared grief is half grief. I think I'll start saving my own posts in a special map. Sounds a bit egocentric? but it'd be fun to read later on in life. Lots of love going around these days. It always gives me mixed feelings. I'm 21 and I still haven't experienced the REAL LOVE. Crushes come and go, and they're very very nice. But what is true love? I'm one of those people who believe one day she will meet Mr. Perfect (not perfect as in this-guy's-got-it-all but perfect in the sense that his faults and eccentricities are not faults but lovable qualities) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 18:20:58 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:20:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: What's a "lazy gett"? Message-ID: <20011101183129.RSYX6072.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.90.95]> Sinister under 20s would rawk. And I can be a member for the next 5 years or so. Speaking of which, there seems to be an abundance of 15 year olds flooding the list.Ok, I know of 3 (Astrid, Rachel Grapenut and myself) so far, but I spent a long time (ok, a couple of months) on this list thinking I was the only sinistereen even nearly my age. Anyhow, my birthday's 22nd Feb (same as George Washington), when's everybody else's? So, I came home from School today thinking, right, today, I will write a really bitchy post. Well, not exactly bitchy but a bit pissed off at stuff. Because yesterday, I posted a post I had written the day before yesterday (when I was feeling all happy). And yesterday, I felt pissed off, but felt it would be wrong of me to post twice in just a few hours. But now I'm feeling all happy again, so my posts are back in synchronisation with my moodiness. I have good reason for feeling happy this week. I beleive this to be the first week (so far) since I joined the school (2 and a bit years ago) that no-one has even attempted to humilate me, insult me or otherwise make my life a living hell. Isn't that nice for me? Actually, this almost certainly _has_ happenned before, but I've just forgotten it or didn't notice. Lastly, I am going round to dinner at a friend of my mum's house. This isn't just any friend, though. You see, when I was small, her son was my best friend. We always went on holiday together and stuff. But it's changed since then. We went to different schools and then started growing apart. Recently, though I discovered him to be a friend of the biggest bastard in my whole school. I wonder what he's like nowadays. It will be an odd experience. Re-visting childhood memories when you haven't really stopped being a child yet. Anyway, That was quite a short post, but sometimes it's satisfying reading a short post as you can just drop in, and then go, having gained soemthing without really doing anything for it. And as one final thing, What is a Lazy Gett? Is it just scottish for Lazy Git or does it mean something subtly different. !Viva Rachels! (being a rachel really makes ending your posts in an interesting way sooo much easier) Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 19:11:29 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:11:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the nights are long and the thrills are short Message-ID: Hello sinister, All this under 20's sinister stuff is making me reach for my pension book. Even when i joined sinister I was 20 so I have never qualified for this exclusive club. Lots of people said lots of things in lots of posts but I deleted all of them so i can remember little except: hurrah a London picnic I might be able to actually make for once as I am staying in London that week. and I remember someone saying something about the Divine Comedy. Their existence has passed me by somewhat. I liked Generation Sex, hated National Express and just remember Steve Lamacq/Jo Whiley playing a lot of their old stuff in the days when the evening session was an indie kid bible. ahhh.... golden evenings in front of the wireless doing my GSCEs. i was glad not to be at home last night for the trick or treating crap that goes on. Kids round my way dont even want sweets, they want hard cash. Half of them dont even bother dressing up. I wasnt scared at all this Halloween. Until I checked my bank balance that was. I've got an exam tomorrow. Multiple guess and only an hour long but I really dont want the ignomy of failure so i have done work for it. Not enough to feel supremely confident but pass mark is something sily like 40% I heard the whole B&S EP yesterday and very sonorous it is too. I would say go buy it but preaching to the converted and all that... I will recommend 69 love songs by the Magnetic Fields though. i dont play it enough and when I do, it's tremendous. This post seems to be all "me me me" so I will end by saying have very nice days and evenings everyone. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Thu Nov 1 16:40:10 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:40:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I met another blind kid at the fancy dress it was the best sex th at I ever had Message-ID: what a halloween party that was! How is sinister this brisk, brown day? Well, I hope. James Danson Hatcher's (or is that Dancin' Hatchback) epic tale of bipedular endurance got me thunkin. What's the furthest distance travelled in the name of B&S without the assistance of a motor or engine of any kind? NOBODY WAS REALLY PLAYING ANYTHING OF INTEREST I've been holding a vigil by the radio this week desperate to hear the new single. So far 11 solid hours of airtime have been unfruitful to say the least. I really need another stereo cos I have found it difficult to listen to Xfm and radiowon at the same time :-( Then, when I flipped stations I was paranoid it would be playing on the other station, then I wanted to know the football score and switched to radio5, then I fell asleep. A CENTURY OF FAKERS? Crushes have got to be a good thing. Haven't they? And you can take it as seriously or as frivolously as you like. If you end up getting spliced and doing rude things with your crush then great. If you don't, what have you lost, really? naffink (asides perhaps a little bit of a dreamy feeling you once had) Yeah I suppose just don't pin your hopes on it. God, hark at me being Clare Raynor!! (Note to non UK listees, Claire Raynor=ageing agony aunt) I too am sad to see the passing of the Divine Comedy, tho I'm sure Neil Hannon will be back, but I doubt he'll ever match the heights of 'A Drinking Song'. A PICNIC FOR THE FOOLS IN THAT LONDON Cola Cube Cay said, "on 18th November which would be super-ace as it's a Sunday" Then that pesky hatchback re-affirmed it with; "picniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18th primrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprim rosehill" and I said Yay!! (quietly and to myself, but with a sense of great anticipation) cos that's 2 minutes from my house. But then, all of a sudden "picnic on the lovely Primrose Hill on the 17th November. (Note the date change)" Calamity and disaster!! Having already rallied the sinisterfitba troops for the 18th (well sort of) and being press ganged into attending a work 'team building exercise' on a warship on the Thames on the Saturday. Well I am most unhappy, but what can I do? .........Hmmmm.......I could suggest a full weekend autumn sinister extravaganza with two days of picnics/pubs/dancing/drinking/fitba/singing/redbulldozerslive(Ken?). Ah it'll never happen. Goodnight and sleep tight whether you're under 20, over 25, (or in between), a Will, a Rachel, a Chris, or even a half a bee. But especially a Rachel ;-) Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 20:13:33 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:13:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: love is a drug..... Message-ID: <20011101201333.353.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> there's been alot of talk of list crushes. there are alot of opinions on the subject and i have my own also. but i'm biased to this matter because i am right now, caught up in the midst of love. and i say simply that love is grand. it's a supremely intangible thing, a thing of myth and dreams, of emotions that can't hardly even be expressed in words. "love is a holy word", she told me. and i agree emphatically that it is. it is a sacred state of emotion, no matter what it's incarnation is. stated even more simply: love is. love is what you make of it. sometimes it flares up like a lit match only to be extinguished by a stray breath or breeze. sometimes love is a match applied to a pile of damp twigs and sticks, starting softly and subtly but soon is blown into a all-encompassing fire raging with energy and passion. sometimes love is just a kind word, a soft look of the eyes from a passer-by on a city bus. the first chords of your favourite b&s song....... love is! i whole-heartedly sympathize with those who have been hurt, as i myself have been hurt and have inflicted hurt. we are all human, born of dust and despair. but if for even one second your heart is filled by that aching, blissful & blinding energy of love, in any form, and all your pain and sorrow and guilt dissappear for that one amazing moment, time freezes and you see yourself perfect....a true vision of what you are truly capable of, then your life has been well lived. pure experience! love is. with a pounding heart, caleb ben aka raw ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Thu Nov 1 20:19:51 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:19:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: baby, it ain't over til it's over Message-ID: <005f01c16312$95d7e600$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> so I don't only have a bad memory, I'm clumsy as well! I got interrupted in my mail writing so I put it in the outbox for the moment. Just that when I opened outlook again it automatically sent my unfinished post. doh. Maybe it was a sign that I had used up my 15 minutes? or that it's time to stop anyway? Naah. I went out yesterday, had a great time and managed to get myself invited to 2 birthday parties on the same weekend, and that weekend I was planning to visit a friend in south sweden who's also having her birthday around then, and so is my cousin's daughter, yikes! As my friend said: "Too bad you can't clone yourself" I'm a bit confused, I'd like to be everywhere. On saturday it's Halloween in Sweden. Yes, that's right. We have a difference between Halloween and Halloween. One is the original H when you remember those who's passed away, light candles on graves and honour their memories. The other one is the trick or treat and masqurade H. Cause Sweden (the people who "are in charge" so to speak) don't want to "make fun" of a solemn occasion it seems. So they decided to separate the two. Which for some people is satisfying, and for others (mostly younger people) means an extra weekend to party, really. Astrid mentioned Acid House, and if I may suggest, make sure your parents or somebody unsuitable are not around when you watch it! I saw it with a friend while being an Au Pair in Nottingham. We had no idea what the film was about so it didn't bother us that the parents (they were christians) were sitting in the kitchen next door to the tv-room. For those of you who've seen it you know it gets a little noisy during certain "Sxenes". We were totally unprepaired for it and when it came to that we got sort of startled almost and looked nervously at each other and grabbed quickly for the remote to turn down the volume. I don't know if the parents heard any of the noises (I certainly hope they didn't!) but I don't think so. Or they just have good poker faces. I never dared to ask. All these picknicks and sinister meet-ups everywhere but here makes me feel like something is missing. And it is. I seem to have so little time and money to do anything out of the ordinary but it doesn't stop me from longing and wanting and longing and wanting and.... Someone once said something like that if you haven't read posts for a while you can always read Rachel Fruitloop's posts to get a summary of the best parts of them all. And oh how true! I often wish I had Rachel F's brain. But then if I had her brain, who's brain would she have? Finally, most people seems to be cheering the Rachels in the mix-tape battle. So to show my good will I'll give my cheering to the Wills. No offens Rs ;) W is for Wonderful I is for Impressive L is for Legal L is for Legendary love and bob dogs -AN Monchichi ps. belle pps. and ppps. sebastian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 21:08:49 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 21:08:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Longing... so what's different today? Message-ID: When you are worrying about something it is quite difficult to think about anything except what you are worrying about. And that's a pity because if you could stop thinking about it for a little while little while things wouldn't seem quite so bad. If you could just stop for a little while and start thinking about things like orange moons or pink skies things would be infinitely better. But when you are worrying your mind goes round in circles returning to that nasty something lurking just under the surface. Even when you aren't directly thinking about the thing you are worrying about you can feel its presence somewhere in the pit of your stomach. So you keep your teeth clenched and head down and hope that it won't find you just yet. Little things become big things. Big things become even bigger. Tonight I'm worrying� All I want right now is to be with someone. Safe within their arms and for them to tell me things will be okay. But that isn't going to happen tonight. Instead I let my dog sit next to me and I pat her head and tell her things will be alright. After a while I start to believe it too. But it isn't easy being reassuring on your own so I enter someone else's world for a little while. I put on a CD. Maybe the red one. I listen to someone else's voice. I let the music carry me through me. I let the music make me feel less alone. I concentrate hard to distract my mind from the path it has become determined to follow. Gradually I relax and I find myself trying a little less. I am swept up in the songs. These are songs I have taken with me from place to place and return I have found them taking me to places. These songs have protected me from things that I fear by becoming my friends and holding my hand at the bus stop, or infiltrating my speech, gently reassuring me, in even the most difficult circumstances. Tonight they don't take away the worry, or even the loneliness, but they make me happier. Take Care and !viva rachels! Rachel (sunnyside up) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 22:15:18 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:15:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Work, work, and more DC Message-ID: <010201c16322$cae70460$575e893e@fallahome> Hello once again all. I haven't been posting much recently, largely cos of my workload at uni, and it's going to be even worse this month. Good news anyway - the concert I sang in last week went really well. Unfortunately, I've got three more to do this month as well as all my uni work. Still, I think I should enjoy them while I can. And, if I'm lucky I could be seeing the Super Furry Animals with my mates next Friday. At long last a decent band comes to Derry. That was odd, last year we had JJ72, Ash and (sigh) The Divine Comedy all playing in the space of a month. In fact, nothing seems to come to our supposedly wonderful city. We get a lot of visitors, but no decent films or bands. They've yet to release Amelie here and every critic's going on about what a lovely film it is. Shame. On top of that, I've been trying to get the Perfect Lovesong single the last two days - it was released on Monday, and yet (surprise, surprise) there's no sign of it here. Funny really, a lot of you seem to have had brilliant Hallowe'en's, and mine was average at best. What else can I say apart from the fact that I saw the fireworks and went out for a drink? Anyway, all your messages (including the ones I've had time to read all of) have cheered me up a lot. And here are my notes to all: Ian Rivamonte - Your DC messages were great. I don't know if Parlophone intentionally caused the break-up mind you. I still believe the whole thing had something to do with the poor sales of Regeneration. Great story about the postcard from Neil as well. Paul Arathoon - Funny that you hate National Express, it's excellent. Lawrence - Europop is far better than Electronic Renaissance. But then, am I saying that cos ER hasn't grown on me, or is it just cos I'm a massive DC fan? It seems you like High Fidelity as well. It is a really good film, although they did mention B & S in a bad note at one point. Stuart - the live TV message was excellent. Andrew - you stated the TDC split-up was 'A very sad business. My view is that they went from being a big small band to being a small big band and it didn't quite work out. The world is a poorer place without them, and I for one do not believe that Divine Comedy=Neil Hannon.' How right you are. Joby Talbot has played a massive part in their albums since Casanova, at least. And I wouldn't say they were that small before Regeneration - the orchestra was massive for Fin de Siecle. Rachel Fruitloop - Surely the release of "Something For The Weekend" doesn't have anything to do with the SFA song? I haven't actually heard the SFA song yet, but the words have got to be different. Rachel Sunset - I'm sorry to hear you've a lot to worry about. But if you had my workload, it'd be a lot worse. Christina - I haven't enjoyed Trick or Treating since I did it in the States when I was 7 (seriously...)! Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougiefish at xxx.com Thu Nov 1 22:29:31 2001 From: dougiefish at xxx.com (erin) Date: 1 Nov 2001 22:29:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The State that I Am In. Message-ID: <20011101222931.10023.qmail@whitfield.chek.com> I'm all for new experiences; Experiences like getting drunk at frat parties are new. So that's precisely why I went frat hopping last night; Something new. Everything must be experienced at least once (except perhaps eating sauerkraut, I know without having tried it that it can't be enjoyable). For someone who never drinks, I was remarkably able to consume. 2 beers, a Zima, and 5 straight alcohol shots (does anyone really drink tequila straight? I wouldn't recommend it). It didn't make me feel adult, but it did make me feel like I'm living up (or down) to society's expectations of me as a teenager. And a Uni student. No hangover, but no sleep + 2 shots of espresso in the morning made for an interesting philosophy lecture, especially given as how the prof kept using the phrase "The state that I am in" ; "The state that it is in" ; "The state that you are in". Understandably I was in a state of semi-dazed Belle & Sebastian reflectionism. I can heartily endorse it as a nice state of consciousness to be in. Fodor & Belle & Sebastian. Who would�ve thought? I must agree that crushes are wonderful things, even when they hurt. It�s a sort of revitalizing pain. Sometimes I forget that I exist and need that pain or that passion to reaffirm my humanity. Sinister crushes must be some of the best; I have never had a boy who understood Belle & Sebastian, no matter how many mix tapes I made. I still send tapes to the one I left, but he still listens to his trip-hop and cannot understand The State That I Am In. Being the most prosaically mundane and un-hipster Belle & Sebastian fan out there, I can probably assume I won�t ever have a boy who understands that aspect of me (admittedly a very big & important aspect), or am I wrong to assume that all other B&S fans are terminally cooler than I am? It usually feels that way. (No worries, though, I am perfectly comfortable with my terminal unhip-ness). I haven�t managed yet to ascertain if there are any other Sinisterians in the pacific northwest. There must be; now who are you? Peace, Love and Poptarts! erin _____________________________________________________________ Are you lazy? Get your Free E-mail at http://www.Lazymail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Fri Nov 2 02:31:45 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (aale002 at xxx.nz) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:31:45 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: Henricus Cornelius Agrippa Von Nettesheim and me...... Message-ID: <1004754705.3be3571136b4d@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> First off, apologies to Lawrence for not replying to your email before sending this off. I'll reply to you in a couple of days. Promise! :-} Secondly, today has been a good day. A very good day, in fact. So, I thought I'd share it with you all. In contrast yesterday was horrible. I had an exam (second to last, yay!), and all day felt...disjointed. Like I couldn't quite get a grip on what was happening, even though nothing much was going on at all. Ordering a coffee was a nightmare, and I don't even want to talk about the filled rolls. The exam itself was a doddle: a third-year psychology paper called "Evolution, Behaviour and Cognition", which is the sort of thing I've been studying since Year Dot. The lecturer for the paper even rang me up the night before to make sure I was OK, because he hadn't seen me in class in a week and I hadn't come to pick up my essay from his office, which was nice. Not to be too cynical about the whole thing, but this is the time of year when lecturers start looking around for students who want supervisors for their thesis years, and this particular lecturer knows that I share an interest of his in the philosophy of biology, so I've become something of a teacher's pet. Many of my friends have bandied the word "protege" about. :-P Once that was over, I went to work, then went home and had an early one, hoping to put the day behind me. This morning when I got up, I felt much better. I went to my mentoring session (I help run a voluntary mentoring programme at a local school, and also mentor a 12 year old boy) and had a jolly good time, discussing long term planning and critical thinking as it applied to the computer game, Baldur's Gate II. :-} Then, I got on the bus. I like buses. I think buses rock, and frequently ride them as a hobby, not unlike a certain boy. Buses are a great place to meet interesting people, and to see the sights of the City of Sails, the Queen City if you will. I did my usual thing, sitting down near the back, so that I can people-watch without feeling crowded. A few moments into my ride, I realised that the person sitting in front of me was my Mediaeval Philosophy lecturer. I said his name, he turned, and I then had a _very_ pleasant conversation, all the way back home. This is what we discussed (amongst other things): I am almost finished my programme, but not quite. I am doing something that sounds much more impressive than it really is. What it is is called a conjoint degree, which is where, if your marks are good enough, you are allowed to do two degrees at once, at an accelerated pace. Many people do Law and Commerce together, but I am doing a Bachelor of Arts (majoring in Philosophy) and a Bachelor of Science (majoring in Psychology). Such programmes usually take 4 to 5 years. I am just beginning my fifth year now, and need only to do one more psych paper and one other science paper to graduate, which I have decided to stretch out over the whole year, taking a few other papers at the same time for interest. Effectively, I have finished my BA already, but will not graduate formally until the requirements for my BSc are complete. My lecturer knows this, and said that, if I would like, he would look into the possibility of me doing Masters level Philosophy papers _next_ year, before I officially graduate, to prevent me from getting bored with just doing more undergrad philosophy (this is not likely, because I love philosophy and intend to go straight into my Masters in it after I graduate, leaving psych in the past, where it belongs.) This, of course, made me rather happy-not only was one of my favourite lecturers saying that he would like me in one of his advanced papers, but I was also suddenly faced with a significantly expanded choice of topics-grad students get to do all the _really_ interesting cutting- edge stuff. Yay for me! Then, we talked about tutoring. Traditionally, tutors in philosophy have been second year masters students, but with the philosophy department growing rapidly in size, demand has far outstripped supply. The HOD has stated that he would be willing to consider people such as myself, who had completed their major in philosophy but had not yet graduated, for these (paid) tutoring positions. Now, tutoring in philosophy has always been a dream of mine-I have had some _outstanding_ tutors in my time, and really want to be just like them. Also, tutoring is most certainly the first step on the road towards lecturing in philosophy. My lecturer, when informed of all this, said that since the philosophy department was absolutely filthy rich right now (in NZ, university departments get funding based upon the numbers of students they have enrolled each year, and philosophy one of the biggest departments with very small overheads) and since they were always looking for good potential tutors, OF WHICH I WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE (yay and double yay!) I was shoe-in for any tutoring job I applied for. I later confirmed this in discussion with a group of graduate students that I know, some of whom had been my tutors in past years. (They also really liked my beard.) That, you would think, would make my day, but oh no! the best was yet to come. As we got off the bus and walked towards the philosophy department, I broached a subject that I had been dwelling upon for over a year, but never had the guts to mention before for fear of being laughed at. I obliquely asked him if he'd done much reading on the works of various Rennaisance magicians and alchemists (of which the delightfully-named fellow in the title is one), to which he replied that that was a particular area of interest of his. Encouraged, I began discussing my interests in examining the texts of such folk not in the traditional way (i.e. that they were all ignorant, deluded fools with no intellectual ability or appreciation of the history of philosophy and science) but that they were genuinely attempting to set the groundwork for a methodology of science that, while now obviously false, has significant forebears in the works of Classical researchers into the natural world-Pliny, Aristotle, Hippocrates, etc He looked at me for a second, then said that that sounded like an excellent idea for a thesis topic (yay, double-yay, and dare I say it, triple-yay!) because there are a lot of primary sources available, but not much has been done on their thinking from a philosophical standpoint. He also said that he'd be happy to supervise my thesis if that was what I decided to do it on (YAY!). Before this, I was intending to write my thesis on a book by a guy called Robert C. Solomon, entitled "LOVE Emotion, Myth and Metaphor", but I was struggling with a rather problematic academic issue. Bob Solomon is a regular visitor and lecturer to the department here in Auckland (being based at the University of Texas), and earlier this year announced two graduate scholarships, the only scholarships available specifically for philosophy students. Tertiary education is expensive here, and such a scholarship would significantly help me to pay my way. Of course, assuming that I ended up winning the scholarship, there would be a rather obvious conflict-I would be being paid by the person who's book I was critiquing to critique that very book. Can you say "Conflict of interest"? I thought you could. Of course, now, that's no longer a problem. I'm now able to do a topic which fascinates me, but which I never dreamed in a million years I'd get support to do in an academic philosophy setting-studying the writings of a Rennaisance magician and discussing it as a philosophical text. Can I get a BLOODY GRATE YAY, my brothers and sisters? How cool will it be to go to a party and say, "Mmm, yeah, I'm writing my thesis about a funky German magician"? Better than "Err, actually, I'm a librarian", anyways. (I know, I know, but I'll still be twee on the inside! Go the libraries! Besides, do you know how much time I'll have to spend in closed collections in libraries chasing down obscure references and learning Latin and Greek?) Well, that's what I wanted to write and tell you all about. Not very B&S oriented, unfortunately, but then again I don't have days like this very often. I feel like I need a beer and a kebab to celebrate (What's "Could I please have a beer and a kebab?" in Greek, Stacey?) Today was a VERY good day..... Right-o, that's all, Go the buses! Cunning Andre +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 00:10:33 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:10:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Drinking just for practice Message-ID: Ouch. I got my yearly flu shot today. It didn't hurt really, but there's a sort of dull ache in the muscle now that's letting me know my arm's a bit annoyed at being used for typing. Anyways, onto things that matter. I love it when people talk about what B&S songs mean to them or what they think are meant by the lyrics, because a big appeal of B&S are their lyrics, and the many ways they can be taken. Youn mentioned "Judy and the Dream of Horses", which is one of my favorite songs really, and said: "If you show me everything, then it will be as though, all along, I didn't know you." So it could be a wish to be spared confessions, but perhaps, more than that, a comment on the impossibility of ever completely knowing another person" So, I have to chime in with what Judy means to me. The narrator (the singer) is talking about a girl the singer knew (judy) and how she used to make him laugh when they were younger, maybe when they were children, but now it's later and Judy isn't making him laugh, she's writing sad songs and showing them to other boys (or maybe, to him, maybe he's the boy in school she shows it to). So, Judy steals a book and has a dream about stealing horses and riding away (away from her life? away from school?), so I take it that Judy isn't very happy. She's walking the streets and there's no boys or girls that can make her happy, and she wants to be away from it all because she dreams of stealing a horse and getting away. The boy doesn't want sad Judy, he wants the girl he used to know (or thought he knew), because he wants her to make him happy. He's built this image up in his mind of who Judy is/should be, and he wants her to be his friend and make him happy, and he doesn't even seem to want Judy to be his lover because nothing will happen on the picnic. Poor bugger's built this image of Judy in his head, a Judy he's sure he knows, and if the real Judy pours out all her unhappiness, tells him how she really feels, then his image gets shattered, and he never really knew her. It's a failing we all have. We build these images of lovers/friends/strangers in our heads and it just shatters us when we find out they aren't true. That the sweet girl isn't as sweet as you thought she was, that the nice boy wasn't as nice as you thought he was, that the person that you thought believed in true love was just another user, etc. Which I suppose leads me into the area of list crushes. I think they're a bit silly myself, but there's no doubting that wonderful people who are perfect for each other who might have never of met have been brought together by the list. Whether as friends or something more, it doesn't matter, I know I've made some great friends because of the list, a few I haven't even met. Here's the rub though, it's hard enough to find someone you're compatible with in real life, on the web I'd think it be even harder. Plus, when I think about the things that attract me to people I've loved in the past, a lot of it is stuff I'd never know from the rather impersonal nature of the net. There was one girl I fell madly in love with because of the way she smiled, and the impression of Kimba from THE LION KING that'd she'd do. I'd always liked her alright, but when I heard her laugh and she gave a growl and did that Kimba, ouch, I was head over heels. Hell, I once had a girl tell me she fell in love with me because of the way I held hands. Those are the things you can't explain, that's where the love is, trying to explain to strangers why something as silly as a Kimba impersonation should make you fall in love with someone is useless, because it doesn't make sense. That's the really brilliant thing about love. It's the little things that really make you fall in love with a person, the real things, and on the net I've seen too many people build up an image of someone they fancied over email only to have it shattered when they hit the real life things, as Amy Longcore said: "nothing prepares you for the persons glance, religous stances, political beliefs, belching, farting, secret blue oyster cult obsessions ...". I pretty much concur with Miss Longcore's feelings on the crush list. Everyone's looking to find a bloody epic love story, and sometimes you do, but most times love's a quiet thing, not as epic as you've been told. All you people going on about how you've never felt REAL love, sure you have. Real love isn't fireworks and thunder, it's Kimba impersonations and holding hands, and just bloody getting on. Rachel Fruitloop said; "Jim...you are REALLY SWEET, you know! I'm a fan!" Ahh, I do feel like a star now, and I even have my first fan. Your fanclub t-shirt and membership badge/secret decoder ring will go out in the post tomorrow :P Shouts out to the lovely Elise, her brilliant other half Sean, ~stine, Nikki, and the rest of the Chicago crew, and a loud shout to our long absent lovely Llew. oh, and a 'meepmeep' to Miss Kenyon out there at her new job. Today's amusing webpage: "Cleaning the fucking kitchen...For Dummies" http://www.fridgemagnet.org.uk/kitchen.html Punk Rock \m/ Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mateamo at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 04:20:40 2001 From: mateamo at xxx.com (matea basta) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:20:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: inferiority, my feelings of being unloved Message-ID: sinister im so frustrated right now i just had to write-- im always feeling inferior, the little person, you know...compared to someone in particular..okay ill say it...my sister. its just shes 3 yrs older and favored. ive been tagged the immature ungreatful spoiled brat and my sister the smart kind gentle one. my parents think im vain and they think she's unaffected. arrrggg!! i only act the way i do for attention. its all i really fudging want and now for some reason im writing all of this to people i dont know and i feel like such a fool. im sorry. its just the way ive always felt and today some things happened that made all these feelings come undone and i want to rip my hair out and yell! im sorry for complaining and whining and being a baby. i guess i really am living up to everybody's very low expectations. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 09:51:37 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:51:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nice clay for a poke Message-ID: Hello, I saw a couple of rabbits in the carpark at work last night, they were so cute. They were playing piggy back with each other. Bless them, heh. Less than a week out of the nursery and already 5 posts under my belt. Yeah volume over technique, that's my motto. I think I'm becoming a Cult figure.. look, I'm Chinese - I can't pronounce my l's and my n's properly. My job at the office is the epitome of repetition, epitome of repetition, I emphasise. Yet for some reason, during this epitome of repetition, my thoughts have been running much more, than ever before. Whilst typing all day long yesterday, I have managed to write three songs for the Red Bull Dozers, all three were absolute gems, like, top of the pops quality songs with all catchy hooks and everything. Then, as soon as the work, the epitome of repetiton, ended, I got home and all three songs were forgotten. This morning, I was thinking about criterias, milestones, benchmarks, about different things, like, for example, what defines a band as successful? Does it have to have at least 1,500 fans? Maybe its own mailing list on the Internet? Its own "Best-of" album? Or, as Terrorvision once said during a popular ITV daytime show "You know you've made it big if you get to be interviewed on Richard and Judy."? I never figured that out, but I do now know what classes a film as having "hit big time" - it has to have its own pornographic spin-offs! Classics such as: Shaving Ryan's Privates Star Trek: The next penetration Buffy: the vampire layer Zipless in seattle I was stumped however when I, came, to porno films themselves. Do porno films get their own porn-spinoffs?? And also, are films with a porno name automatically a winner? Well, I guess we'll see when, "Harry Potter and the philosopher's stones", comes. Big Stu said: >>Several hundred years ago, on November 5th, Guy Fawkes tried to blow up parliament and kill all the politicians. Can someone please explain why we celebrate the fact that he failed?<< If he had succeeded, then we won't have a parliament anymore, and hence "The Day when Thatcher died" wouldn't have been written, which means no dancing like a prat for Ken, which would be bad. I see as well as an under21's love club, we are also having over 25 meetings too, soon we're just gonna have a "everyone except ken" club, grr! :-) James Gilmer said: >>All you people going on about how you've never felt REAL love, sure you >>have. Real love isn't fireworks and thunder, it's Kimba impersonations and >>holding hands, and just bloody getting on. << I haven't, I did Kimba impersonations to many girls and they were having none of it. Maybe I growled a little too loud. Knowing how love works is all fine as long as there is someone to love, I don't think I even know any single girls who live in this town, definitely not one who wants my ass. Butt I digress. (Sorry I stolen that pun from someone but it was a good'un) Growls and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Fri Nov 2 12:19:41 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:19:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sometimes even cinnamon tea doesn't help... Message-ID: <008301c16398$ca5f3320$23684cd5@default> oh no, i caught an autumn low..! hello dear sinisters, i love cinnamon. i love everything cinnamon. that's why i always enjoyed reading the narrow wizard's posts... "with that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon" -- how lovely!! :) alas, today even drinking cinnamon tea didn't alleviate my strangestrange mood. worth to note i drank it while listening to 'sally cinnamon' by the roses! still nothing... autumn makes me so melancholy sometimes... looking out of the window i see the trees, their leaves a mixture of yellow and orange; grey buildings under grey clouds... and instead of singing 'orange crush' by r.e.m. i just want the sun to come out. for the past couple of days i've been wandering round the house after school, in that not-having-the-will-to-do-anything mood... ooh, i've just written 'will' there - well, apologies to all Wills and Will-Wannabes, but i'm in the Rachel Rovers team, teehee. :) my name's ola. rachola. and i'm the goalie ;) school's been fine so far.. at least a change after having to stay at home for 3 horror weeks of silly illness. i still get tired really easily, though, which is mighty annoying. whatever you do darlings, avoid going down with mononucleosis. ;) i've started reading 'lord jim' by joseph conrad.. he was polish, you know? :) he changed his name, which was a good decision i guess - i doubt if he'd have been published a lot, had he signed his works 'korzeniowski' rather than 'conrad' ;) perhaps i should change my surname too, then i could become the female... err, edward lear? :) i'm quite good at writing nonsense rhymes, i can easily see myself as the Queen of Limericks. and why not? ;) i've had a huge row with mum today. we just can't seem to get along ok, for more than 2 weeks anyway. she's made a few allusions that perhaps it would be better if i lived with my dad. i'm not sure if she really meant it. that's stability in my life... i watched 2 documentaries last night. one was about afghanistan and the taliban ruling, the other about freedom fights in east timor... some of the scenes were *so* cruel and shocking.. i couldn't take it all in... i know it's a cliche, but all the wars and conflicts and people's cruelty make me worry about where the world is heading. 'come armageddon', as morrissey sang. or something ;) in the 18th century in france there lived a utopianist named charles fourier. among other things, he claimed that if people helped each other and co-operated for each-other's benefit, the world would change as well. for example, a lion would become an anti-lion, and there would be lemonade in the seas. i find it sweet :) yes, i am a fan of utopianism. ;) i set out to change the world by blowing bubbls in the streets. mind you, it makes some people actually smile(!) :) just one last thing and my random rambling is over. i need a boyfriend. but not some seduce-disappear guy, not again. and preferably the tall, skinny type or a lookalike of jónsi from sigur rós. or ken chu ;) (i could be one of your dream-girls, ken. i've got green eyes ;) ...the seduce-disappear guy said i had fantastic eyes. he also said some other things. and i fell for his damn smoothtalk. stupisstupidstupid. but that was 2 months ago. time to move on and plot a revenge. erm, sorry. i should be back to my cheerful not-mentioning-boring-personal-stuff self soon(ish). otherwise you'll all hate me. love, rachola (lalala) ps. *hugs* to rachel oj and other sini darlings in love-distress. i hope everything turns out fine for you. psps. also *hugs* to all other sinister darlings, i wouldn't want you to feel left out :) -- Zamów odbitki ze zdjęć cyfrowych lub archiwum zdjęć na CD! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 14:17:00 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:17:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Presents Exchange Message-ID: is there going to be a christmas presents exchange again this year? (sorry if this is a wee bit early) i really wanted to take part last year but i was just a newbie and a bit wet behind the ears so i didnt but i definately will this year if its on is joan of dark still around? if so will you organise it again this year? if you don't know what i'm talking about check out the archives: Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:30:10 +0200 From: Joan of Dark Subject: Sinister: Christmas Presents Exchange i know its only just november but the chrimbo decorations are up in town and all the adverts on telly are christmas ones (it seems) so i was just feeling in the spirit and remembered about this so then, how about it? eh? prezzies and red bulls Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 14:31:31 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 06:31:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Harry Potter and the blonde nutcase. Message-ID: <20011102143131.611192757@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From colinboy21 at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 16:53:29 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:53:29 Subject: Sinister: ROCK ON STEVIE!!! Message-ID: Dear everyone, I was listening to the live mix of Belle and Sebastian in Los Angeles yesterday, and I came upon a moment in the concert when Stuart called a young couple up to the stage (and they better hurry before he changes his mind). The song that Stuart played for them was "Wrong Girl". I thought- how appropriate. I wonder what that song meant to that young couple, but I know what it meant to me. That girl dancing might've been the right girl for "Jarvis", but she was probably the wrong girl for me. I must say, though, that the girl made a wonderful crush and deserves a good guy who lives a lot closer. I find the current thread of love and crushes to be entirely relevant to my life, since I have found one and lost the other. I agree with Rachel when she said that an e-relationship can cause people to write things that they normally wouldn't. For instance, I would flirt wildly with my crush (without thought to consequence). The problem came when I was faced with the very serious proposition to move very far away and live with her- this wonderful, yet very anonymous girl. Suddenly, I became confused (and pretended I wasn't) and I fumbled around like an ass trying to figure out what the hell I was doing. In the middle of all this, just to completely turn my world upside down, I found romance (when I least expected it). Amy Bancroft, Michigan's own MIA, re-visited my life, and I fell in love, whether I had plans to move very far away or not. I covered my ass by not telling the truth to my crush (which was very wrong), but I was finally honest when I had made my decision, which I'm very happy with. I've wanted to tell the list that I've found a special sinister person, but its rather difficult because it managed to hurt one of you. Anyway, it doesn't do any good to keep things a secret. I do want the list to know that love between sinisters can be found, that it should be with someone you've actually met, and that all crushes should be honest with themselves and each other. Belle and Sebastian are more than just great music to me. They are a lifestyle, a personality, a philosophy. I do think that Sinister kids have a great deal in common and that there are all kinds of potential matches on this list. To think otherwise would be depressing because (I don't know about you), but I have a hard time meeting people that think and act the same way I do. This is a grate place to meet someone special and (I disagree with Mr. Gilmer on this point) an e-mail relationship can be better for a couple because they have to focus on communication over physical attraction. But, ultimately, I have to agree that there is nothing like holding someone close and kissing them on the neck and dancing with them next to creepy day-of-the-dead skeletons (for instance). Thanks for considering my thoughts on this subject. If anybody happens to know my x-crush, please tell her that I would join her cult any day and that I still think she is pretty cool. Shout out to Amy- Stars of Track and Field are Beautiful People. Love, Colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Nov 2 20:18:29 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:18:29 EST Subject: Sinister: Do you know the way to Camden Town? la la la la la ala la la la laa... Message-ID: Everybody! Leicestershire's a great big freeway, put a Twenty down and buy a car. In a week or maybee two you wish you'd saved for a Lada. Ohhhhh, I've got lots of friends in Camden Town, la la la la la la la al. Yeah, you can't really breath in Camden Town, la la la la la la la la la. you can keep singing if you like but I'm going to write a bit now, so.... How are you? I woke up this morning to the sound of my phone ringing and at the other end comes a voice..... "Hellooooo James, sooo sooorry, I'm afraid we've had to rearrange your shifts, soooorry, is that Okaaaay?" This is the voice of my *employer* and his latest transparent excuse. He got a reply of "No you useless gimp, thats not Ok" Finishing with "Take me off your books, I shan't be requiring your services any longer!" Now, telling your boss to get lost is all well and good but it had me chewing finger nails at an alarming rate as I was without income and still had a complete lack of "feeding myself" funds, let alone "get me back to London" funds. I then walk out the door to see Triumph car making out like I'm not so bad after all, pouting her bumpers suggestively as I pass by. I know she's only doing this cos I'm trying to sell her and really thinks I'm a terrible driver. So having a clingy motor car and no income was getting me a bit miserable. That was this morning, cos now all is well again. I went to another interview earlier on and was delighted to see the agency lady was infact Fergie's identical twin, what could go wrong now a disgraced royal was going to find me a job? Absolutely nothing!, She came bounding back from her office with all the enthusiasm of newly born giraffe, legs all over the place, collapsed into her chair, flung herself over to my side of the table, looked up, pushed ginger hair out her eyes, caught her breath and spluttered "how about a job at Disney!" Having escaped Sarah Ferguson's rather loose sister I leave the office EMPLOYED, and with the title 'order picker' to add to my collection. I feel like dancing about with JOY at finally getting a well paid proper job with a real boss and a real place to do this work in. mmmmm, lovely. .............................................................................. Datsun 260Z (love) Got her loser bits of rust brushed off and painted back over with "Magnolia" emusion which makes the her look all the more tatty, as is the fun of owning 27 year old cars. She really shot off down the lanes this afternoon very enthusiastically and I think secretly she quite enjoyed getting tarted up in house paint. Perhaps it has the same effect on cars as cotton wool buds have upon humans. .............................................................................. .................... By means of a change and that this is a B&S list, I have some Belle&Sebastianish content in my post today. Miss Jenni of picnic mummying fame has the new Single and says "It's got a really twee retro design on the cover" and that she feels very proud to have it a month before everyone else, so. List crushes are brill and should be encouraged. If you've read this FAR it must be 'cos you got HIGH.... James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 05:21:54 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 21:21:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Chu wears the clothes of an emperor Message-ID: <20011103052154.98206.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> HELOOOOOO SINISTERINEYS!!! I am back to summarise, to dazzle, to entertain and to generally RAQUE YOUR WORLD! Can I just tell you how excited I am that it's Friday?! Also, Halloween ending means that I can go shopping for cheap Halloweenie thingies for my Tim Burton-esque kitchen that I like to call "The Nightmare Before Dinner". This is the only time of the year I can get new oven mitts, dish towels and tablecloths, so I must take advantage!!!! So, this is another MEGA POST because y'all have been writing some very engaging things to the list lately! I'm glad that some of you actually *look forward* to this!! You make me smile! *****************SINISTER UNDER 20/KEN CHU/OVER 25**************** Peter Carter wrote of Rach Cornflake's legion of Sinister under 20: "ME! Can I join? Please please please please!" and it was really weird because the date of his post showed up in my mailbox as 9/30, which is my birthday. What a weird glich. But wrong date or not, it's over seven years too late for me to belong to the club, so I don't know what I'm getting so excited about my birthdate being on his post for! and Cola Cube Cay wrote: "Can I join the Sinister under 20s club please?" Another under 20!!! Wow, you kids are so cool and so young! Pez just turned 22! Hoorah! Happy Belated Birthday!!! Madeleine wrote of the Sinister's Old Codger's Club: "Vic and I always carry clean pants and a toothbrush, we never kip on floors, we often prefer a quiet meal and a chat to a yeard of ale and a kebab session. We prefer comfort over "fun" any day." I'm not quite there yet, I have been known to "kip" on floors... what a british term that is--kip, how does it mean sleep? Where in the world did it come from?! Jonny wrote: "and then rachel fruitloop reminds me of my own mortality with talk of a sinister retirement community." Ahhh, Jonny, I just wanted you to know that even crazy fruitloops like me are old-timers! But the best part is that we secretly kick ass, despite our "Codger" facade! Joe Vester (to those in the know, Rachel Pancake!) wrote: "Sinister under 20s would rawk. And I can be a member for the next 5 years or so." My goodness, that is a scary thought. You're fifteen and brilliant!! Where were boys like you when I was fifteen, dammit!? ********************JERK-OFFICE SPACE********************************* Lisa (Rachel Ranchero, to those in the know!) "said to the clerk behind the counter, "You know, Loverboy falls into that category of music that I call 'Earnest Rock'. I am never sure what kind of emotion they're trying to communicate, but whatever it is,they're trying to do so very forcefully and earnestly." Someone thinks it's funny and it's me! I, for one, am ALWAYS working for the weekend! Mark wrote an amusing tale of office life, and the Stationery Master. Writing "Live animals: Do not eat" and something about "Fetish City" on the outside of his order that had arrived is so very amusing. I love office entertainment at the expense of others' who make themselves targets! Nice one! Helen McLean wrote: "At my work we have a woman who has a small obsession with watching planes fly, and so at the slightest sound of a plane flying overhead (which can happen quite often) she will literally drop everything and bolt out the door and will be staring at the sky smiling." WHAAAAT? That is just bizarre! I can't imagine what I would do as an employer if my staff did that. Unless you work as an air-traffic controller...then it makes sense (the cocaine, ya know!) Robster wrote: "Now I don't think there has been any formal declaration of war on this front and I certainly have nothing against any of the Robins or Robyns on the list... Ah what the hell - Oi Stout! I'll see you in the playground at home time. Bring yer anecdotes. We'll soon see who works in the more bizarre office!" Now I'm practically choking from laughing at this one!!! What's next--James' v. Stuarts in a battle over who can quote the most lines from Jimmy Stewart's movies!! I'm getting ready for 'It's A Wonderful Life' on TV straight through the holidays! **************DRESSING FOR HALLOWEEN IN SMARTY PANTS!***************** Rach Grapenut wrote: "Yesterday my mum and brother and I carved some kickass pumpkins, the best we've ever done, and it made me very happy." Yay, kickass! Yay, pumpkins! I carved a "kickass" pumpkin this year, too. A white pumpkin, and I carved a skull into it. I named him "Scrappy". Not to be confused with the shitty cartoon dog nephew to Scooby Doo, but much less annoying and a lot scarier. Kara Jean wants to be David Bowie for Halloween every year, in which case I'd give Peter a run for his money! Mmmmmmm, Bowie! Vel-Gal wrote: "Rachel titled her post "a spooky witch in a sexy dress" and gave me thoughts of my dog, spooky, in a sexy dress... you know the only piece of cloth she ever wore was these self-made knickers i made for her for obvious reasons (her being a she-dog) with a hole at the back for her tail to pop out!" AWWWWWWW! How cute! I once made socks for my cat Agnes. Pink kneehighs, they were. Her twinkle toes are always cold. I got a picture of her in them once, but she was very unhappy. I hope that Spooky doesn't mind being dressed up! Archel Toast wrote of Halloween being silly because kids are told to DEMAND sweets from strangers. She also remarked on the scare of anthrax in lovehearts, which she ate anyway! But I really liked it when she wrote: "incidentally, one of the writers in the festival i'm currently involved with had to pull out because of a'perforated colon'. which is quite an appropriate sounding injury for a writer..." and if you're gonna die from anthrax, punctuate it with a witty comment, I always say! (you ARE still with us, though, aren't you?) Hey, speaking of punctation and semi-colons and such... well, you know I like these referential posts, but when I want to quote somebody who had used quotation marks, I am resisting the urge to change the inner marks from "" to ''... but that would be tampering with the integrity of your quotes, you lovelies! So please don't hold my bad punctuation against me! ;) Jim Gilmer sent a link to "Cleaning the Fucking Kitchen for Dummies" and it was soooooooo funny. I need that for my house. My brother and new wife are STILL at my house despite the fact that he said that he was just coming for the weekend to get his stuff. They have torn the place up. I have to be mean tonight. :( Madeleine, I am really aware of how hard it is to live with other people, I am *not* in the mood for this at all, either! Cunning Andre wrote: "I never dreamed in a million years I'd get support to do in an academic philosophy setting-studying the writings of a Rennaisance magician and discussing it as a philosophical text. Can I get a BLOODY GRATE YAY, my brothers and sisters?" Bloddy great yay Andre!!! I am impressed by your academic endeavors! I guess talking to people on city buses pays off, eh? Olalalala (Rachola Cinnamon to those in the know!) wrote: "i've started reading 'lord jim' by joseph conrad.. he was polish, you know? :) he changed his name, which was a good decision i guess - i doubt if he'd have been published a lot, had he signed his works 'korzeniowski' rather than 'conrad' ;) perhaps i should change my surname too" Me, too. I wanna be famous but I'm Polish born and french bread, ha, french bread! (that was for you, sweet crush o' mine!) Really though, my last name is straight from your motherland, Ola, even though I'm only a quarter Polish. People have a real problem with polish names around here. It's not difficult, I promise you, but I will stick to fruitloop! ********************THE HURTY-GURTY GANG*************************** Kara Jean mentioned slipping and giving herself a fat lip. She also is a good singer of "Slow Graffitti". Angela was: "limping cause i have just about totaly knocked off my little toe last night on the corner of the couch in my room last night." And Matthew Willson wrote: "*random fact* I woke up with a bruised toe this morning. I also had no idea where it had came from until I realised I was kicking inanimate objects in a drunken manner last night :-( After dealing with a rather confusing/tearful 'I really like you but I can't get involved' talk with the girl who's leaving before christmas..." OH WOE WOAH!!! Why is everybody hurting themselves!? I guess we are all clumsy from being pulled in every direction by our heartstrings! Matthew, try to keep your head up. That situation is very hard to cope with! I'm sending you hugs! Vel-Gal posted a grate poem and told the tale of nursing poor ill Stacey Dahling back to health! Hope you're better, Stacey! Robster would say: "Doctors describe their condition as 'stable but twee'." I would also like to send "get well soon" messages to Big Stu's car! Does it have a name, Stu? (the car, I mean!) ********STOP THE PRESSES (ER, MODEMS)! MUSICAL CONTENT!************** Tim Banning wrote: "speaking of Women's Realm, did anyone else notice that when they played it live, they skipped the last verse?" Yeah, what's up with that? What happened! I feel cheated, as if I should wait around for a bit and see if we can have another go at it! Ian wrote about the time Neil Hannon from The Divine Comedy sent him a hand written card! That is so wonderful!!! What a nice guy! Chris Pez wrote of Nick McCabe: "I wish he'd make a comeback with a new band or solo as he is a tremendous guitar player, but that might be a bit too much like the seahorses. but then again McCabe was never as self indulgent a guitarist as John Squire was so maybe it might work." Yes, indeed. Nick McCabe is genius. Really truly. Not that Squire or Butler aren't, don't get me wrong. But I have to agree with you on the self-indulgent quality in a guitar virtuoso taking them down. Also, Mark Collins from The Charlatans doesn't get enough credit for being brilliant. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed Butler's solo album 'People Move On'. Being an old Suede-obsessed die hard, I was devastated when he left Suede. And actually, he sent me a 2 page handwritten letter after he "left the band" and it was extremely bitter towards Suede. Such a shame. But he can be really nice, too. Another guitarist I adore is Phil Cunningham from Marion, remember them? Youn wrote: "I was struck by this line in the song: "I don't know you if you're gonna show me everything". There's the obvious contradiction." And KEN CHU wrote: "I am going to pretend that I don't know you if you're going to flash your boobs to me in public" and I WRITE: "It's not like you to bare your soul to me, so when you're confessing, it goes against the personality of yours that I know" That's what I think, anyway. Rach O.J. wrote: "what i didn't know is thet my mother like.. loves belle & sebastian!!" hoorah! I hope that you have a GRATE trip visiting your mom in London!!! But i hope your mom's passion for B&S doesn't turn out like my mom's passion for Morrissey. It sort of gets in the way, I think! Paul Arathoon wrote: "I heard the whole B&S EP yesterday and very sonorous it is too. I would say go buy it but preaching to the converted and all that..." It's driving me crazy that I haven't heard this yet!!! The suspense is killing me! James and the giant Dancin'Hatchback wrote: "Miss Jenni of picnic mummying fame has the new Single and says "It's got a really twee retro design on the cover" and that she feels very proud to have it a month before everyone else, so. List crushes are brill and should be encouraged." I wish MY list crush had an advanced copy of the EP! If he had it, I would lend him 200 quid for a flight across the ocean! MR. B THINKS I'M PRETTY!!! Whooo hoo! I am smiling! :D That made my day! Rachel Sunnyside Up wrote something beautiful about the music of B&S: "These songs have protected me from things that I fear by becoming my friends and holding my hand at the bus stop, or infiltrating my speech, gently reassuring me, in even the most difficult circumstances." I feel this way, too. I thank my lucky stars for music! I have been indulging in Muse a lot lately. I just recently got a tape from a pen pal and I can't get enough of it. It just seems to fit my mood and the weather. Psi wrote: "Rachel Fruitloop - Surely the release of "Something For The Weekend" doesn't have anything to do with the SFA song? I haven't actually heard the SFA song yet, but the words have got to be different." Yeah, the words are different. Don't get me wrong, I like both songs, but it's just that the SFA one RAQUES and TDC one is more whimsical and twee. But my heart belongs to SFA, especially since my current list crush will only endure as long as there are SFA lyrics for our subject lines! But HE has voted for me 2 times now... so you see SFA are very proliphic! *************IT'S FUN TO TRAVEL AND PICNIC WITH CHU***************** Lawrence wrote: "hopefully there will be the first inaugural Sinister Auckland picnic sometime before or after Christmas." That would be super cool!!!! I'd want to see pictures of that one! Michael Vance wrote: "We could have a Sinister hike up in Zuma, but maybe some have been sitting in front of the computer typing up your list crushes too long?" Yes, well... I SUGGESTED a picnic here in Los Angeles on November 10th, but only one person has expressed any interest. So I guess I'm just not fit to be a picnic mummy! What am I, Scotch mist? ;) Upon receiving the news that the Primrose Hill picnic is being switched to the 17th, The Beautiful Mr. B wrote: "I could suggest a full weekend autumn sinister extravaganza with two days of picnics/pubs/dancing/drinking/fitba/singing/redbulldozerslive(Ken?)" And I say you guys should just go for it and make a weekend of the picnic situation!!!!! oh, to be in London! Sean wrote the most charming travel guide to Baltimore and is hoping that someone out of b&s will read it and insist that the band play there. Sean said: "I will personally show them all around so the leave with the proper impression of the town." I hope that you will take me to see the sights and then drag me home. I plan to visit you and Elise there next year!!! Especially now that I know how wonderful Baltimore is!!!! Plus, I just want to hang around with you kool kats! Jonny said: "the other more reason was the disturbing piece of graffiti i saw on a crossing at clapham common last weekend during my six-monthly visit to the big metropolis from the northern hinterlands that are south manchester. it read "chu was here". what can it all mean?..." I think it means that the next B& S album is going to be called "Chu was here"! Katie Cheeriodle (Rachel Cheeriodle to those in the know!) wrote of an earthquake in Southern California the other day: "my bed started shaking worse than a vibrating bed in a cheap motel. Not that I'm personally familiar with such a bed or anything, lest you get any ideas about my character." Well, we know that you only have reference to such bed from the visit you made to Mr. Ken Chu's house to insure the success of our !Viva Rachels! movement! ;) Toby C is leaving us for the Silk Roads of China. Funny, it sounds like innuendo to getting down Chu's pants! Stacey Dahling wrote: "I somehow managed to lure Ken Chu to make an utterly spontaneous trip into London a few weeks ago, can I entice anyone else into Athens?" If ticket prices are still only 50 quid from England, you all have to go to Athens, I insist! That is a picnic I have to experience vicariously through a whole bunch of you kids! ********************FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY************************ Big Stu wrote the commentary for: "the big match: Rachel Rovers v Wills United." Big Stu, you are so clever and brilliant! I can't believe how grate your Sinister TV live report was!!!!!! I could *kiss* you for being that witty! An Monchichi wrote: "I often wish I had Rachel F's brain. But then if I had her brain, who's brain would she have?" My cranial cavity would then be filled with cotton candy, I imagine! I doubt anyone would notice a difference, though! You are cute An!!! Elise J. Spry wrote: "a list of alternate merit badges for scouts that my friend Ben Carter and I made up" I think that "Faking Term Papers" needs to be another one of those. Elsie is sooooooooooo very clever and I love her! *************************LOVE************************************ Kenneth PY Chu wrote: "I think I'm becoming a Cult figure.. look, I'm Chinese - I can't pronounce my l's and my n's properly." That makes me want your ass. I'm single but not nearby. Plus, I don't know if I could handle the "status" of dating a c**t figure! But damn you're cute, Chu! Eric the half bee wrote: "I just need someone to hold and to hold me. smoking at my window while listening to galaxie 500 just isn't cutting it." A sentiment so many of us share with you Eric. It's difficult to be confident enough to move beyond these suckers who don't "like us like that" and go fishing! Amy Longcore (Rachel Apple Jacks to those in the know!) wrote: "there is a difference between knowing you are using someone as an "escape" from your working week or whatever, and having a flat out dillusional relationship with someone you've never met." Ain't it the truth!! That is why you must try living in the real world instead of a shell!! Cola Cube Cay said of list crushes: "The only thing you'll ever get out of them is love children and heartbreak and a boy living in your room for three weeks eating all your bread..." Love children?! What?! I don't want to have a love child! And I need all of my bread for myself! Maybe I should rethink my stance on list crushes...hmmmm... nope, still a fan! ;) Caleb Ben (for those in the know, RAW) wrote something that has stuck in my mind: "sometimes love is a match applied to a pile of damp twigs and sticks, starting softly and subtly but soon is blown into a all encompassing fire raging with energy and passion." B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! I think that's the sensation I've had with love in my life most often. If I accept the fact that it is love I'm feeling, that is! I like Jim Gilmer's interperetation of love, too. It makes it seem so acquireable! And Jim, I will wear my fan club badge proudly, sweetie! Rachel Sunnyside Up wrote: "Tonight I'm worrying� All I want right now is to be with someone. Safe within their arms and for them to tell me things will be okay. But that isn't going to happen tonight." Yeah, yeah, yeah!!! I need that, too! What will we do, what will we do? I'm going to listen to "Whatever Happens, I Love You" by Moz to soothe my savage soul! Grrrrr! Erin wrote: "I can probably assume I won�t ever have a boy who understands that aspect of me (admittedly a very big & important aspect), or am I wrong to assume that all other B&S fans are terminally cooler than I am?" No, of course not. I think one grate thing about being a B&S fan is that we are typically "uncool" and that is what makes us cool! A lot of boys love B&S, or can be introduced to them by you, and some of them even turn out to be straight! ;) Just don't give up hope, Erin. I'm trying not to! Matea Basta is suffering from the younger child complex, so I am sending a big old hug and a shout out to you because you're grate!!! I am the big sister and I have seen my own sister aflicted with this complex, so I know how it is! Kara Jean wrote: "We have a flowering cherry tree outside my house and I once stood underneath it on purpose on a windy day, but the flowers weren't ready to rain down yet." That is GORGEOUS!!!!! Yay, Kara! I like that picture in my mind! Will Spike wrote: "She sees me as only a friend. Sigh. Why does this always happen to me?" Because of The Smiths. That's why it happens to all of us. "I want the one I can't have and it's driving me mad, it's written all over my fayeeyayyeyyaahahace!" *******************FAVORITE QUOTES********************** "It's possible that over the weekend someone from Sinister may be EXPOSED as a MURDERER. But I'll keep you posted." --Andrew Williams "The staff were so happy, you'd have thought Jesus had arrived with a big box of sweets."--Robin Stout ********************************************************* On that note, I shall leave you to ruminate! Extra special hugs to my two favorite boys, Ben Apps and Ryan, and also to Elise! And of course kisses and high-fives to the Rachels !VIVA RACHELS! The battle is underway (or is that underwear?) love to you all, Grrrrachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 06:57:27 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 06:57:27 Subject: Sinister: lots of b.s. Message-ID: Hi all, I've made some friends recently. They are good guys, we laugh a lot and make crude jokes at one another. I have a good time when I'm around them. One guy, I turned him onto the strokes, and the new ben folds album. He likes them a lot, so while on a drive to L.A. last night I pop in Boy with the Arab Strap you know just to broaden his horizons a little bit more. They called Belle and Sebastian a "Simon and Garfunkle cover band". Fare enough, considering he has a Linkin Park CD and likes it. I turned it off and went for the Michael Jackson/Live Strokes mix CD that he had. They are still young they have yet to learn. I can't resist but to talk about Judy and the Dream of Horses too. I've always loved that song, and it's one of my favorites. I almost peed when they played it in san fransisco. I have great images rushing through my head everytime I listen to it or sing it to myself... It seems to me that many Belle and Sebastian songs have something to do with sex. Dirty Dream #2, Seeing other people lots and lots of songs. I've always thought that Judy was about falling in love with a hooker. The Dream of Horses was some sort of excape from the prostitute life style or the narrator was now the horse come to life, or...something. Judy's going to show him EVERYTHING. She DID IT with a boy when she was young. She never felt so good except when she was sleeping (not with anyone, just sleeping) The book that she got was the best memory that she has, the girl that stole a horse was her stealing a horse to get away from the life she was living. And now, she's met a guy that will do what she wants, but she'll fall asleep with ants in her pants because she's so used to just having to sleep with a these guys. just on and on like that, god I love that song. Just what I thought it was about. of course it's probably about listening to Kenny G and getting bored. but it was really great to see them play that live. I am really really tired. I worked tonight, I'm a sushi waiter. the place I work at has no asian people, a kind of wierd "only in America" kind of thing. anyway, hope you all are well, take care. tim. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sat Nov 3 07:33:56 2001 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:33:56 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: OFFTOPIC: plea to American listees for "Buffy" musical Ep!:) Message-ID: Hey there kittens, Hello, it's just me calling for the attention (and, preferably, help) of all American Sinisterines, preferably those who get UPN and watch the weekly slice of genius and wonder that is "Buffy, the Vampire Slayer"you see, I live in Western Australia and are pretty far away from getting "Buffy" back on our screensnot until March next year at leastand next Tuesday (6th November) they are showing this all singing, all dancing, musical episode of "Buffy" which I have simply been dying to seeand just can't, I repeat, CAN'T, wait for! So, if anybody could tape for me that particular eppy I would be eternally grateful, not only that, I'll (naturally) shower them with gifts in exchange, like burnt cd's and the like from my extensive record collection, which includes lots of stuff, everything from super rare Dot Allison, One Dove, Saint Etienne and Garbage to Black Box Recorder, Ed Harcourt, Lambchop, Tinderstick, B&S, Belly, Palace, Divine Comedy, Lambchop and lots, lots LOTS more!!! So, please, if anyone can do it, drop me a line ASAP!! Hoping someone can help me! Kin "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zcraw96 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 3 14:02:55 2001 From: zcraw96 at xxx.uk (Christina McDermott) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 14:02:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: God bless the Press Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011103140255.008708e0@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Before I start this, I'm going to hide under the proverbial bedclothes and only write this peeping my head out so I don't get battered with big sticks for what I'm about to say. I have the new single. Oh yes. "But how?" I hear you ask. "How does such an overexuberant drunken young thing like her lay her hands on such gorgeousness?" Well...I write articles for the Arts section of "London Student" which is the big student newspaper we have around these parts for the students of all the colleges of the University of London. Me being me, I specialise in writing about lovely jubly new music and the occasional film (which leads me to saying to all of you to go and see "GhostWorld" when it comes out because it's super-wicked). When the singles came in last week, I saw the new Belle and Sebastian one in the pile and oh, how my little eyes lit up. I fought for it. Oh yes indeed I did. But I was given the choice of the new single or going to see Hefner for free that night. I decided to see Hefner and resigned myself to a wee sulk in the corner, until the lovely girl who got it instead came up to me afterwards and said:- "I saw you really wanted that single." Me:-(nonchalantly) "Yeah, perhaps" Her:- "You a big fan" Me:- "Mmmm...yeah, they're my favourite band actually *blush* I went to Spain to see them this Summer with my best friends." Her:- "Wow, that's some devotion! Tell you what, I only think they're ok, so do you want this after I've reviewed it?" I could have hugged her to within an inch of her life, I tell you. And then yesterday at the next meeting she gave to me and I left with a huge smile on my face which hasn't been wiped off yet. I don't want to give anything away.....but I think it's aceness. It sounds all quite epic 60s, like something Gene Pitney would have done and I love stuff like that, so it gets the thumbs up from me anyway. And I like "I love my Car" loads too. Marx and Engels is sweetness galore. The cover art looks like something straight out of some tacky 70s magazine though. I'm appalled, but at the same time it's good to bare in mind that I'm more of a cat person. :D On the subject of Love and the suchlike, I have to say that I heard one of the best chat-up lines ever last night. I ended up at some atrocious Uni Halloween party at my halls which was only good because me and my friend Min got all dressed up (I wore a dress and *everything!*) and I taught her how to handclap the way I used to in primary school and also for drunken dancing bloke who stole her dufflecoat and dived off the table wearing it, only to get up and carry on dancing even though he'd belly-flopped onto the floor. However, I digress. I'm sat there, on my own, feeling tired and a bit lonely as Min had gone home when a boy sat across from me complements me on my dress/make-up/Miffy bag and earings. Naturally I'm impressed and so I go over to talk to him and introduce myself whereupon he comes out with the best chat-up line I've heard in ages. "I've been drawing a lot of naked women recently." And when I went "Oh really?" He replied "Yeah, tourists will do anything for a tenner..." God bless pissed Arts students. I was suitably amused anyway. And then I was woken up at 1 AM by the fire alarm going off. I would have been pissed off if my friend Sam hadn't been keeping me warm by giving me mega-hugs because I complemented his new shoes. :D Anyhoo...I'm off to go into Camden to drink tea and eat cake and giggle with my compadres. And then tonight, I'm off to see Bonny Prince Billy. Woo-hoo! Viva Chris's! (I felt someone should say it....we're the minority here after all) Cay Cola-Cube (also known as Miss Jenni) xXx P.S.-Hugs to John-John, Dancing Danson-Hatchback, Lovely Ben Apps, my Chris in crime Mr. Pez, my lovely (no longer) lurker friend Matt and Rachel Fruitloop. She may be the enemy but she roooles if only for increasing the number of exclamtion marks any one person can put in a post at one time every post. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 15:27:16 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:27:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: feeding curiousity george Message-ID: <20011103152716.81833.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com> hungry sinisters, i traded in my business card-type job for one where i get the opportunity to say, 'walker party of 4 yum, yum come 'n get some.' or another favorite - 'bow wow wow its time to chow.' and i get to shake my booty once an hour, too. you ask, is this heaven? perhaps one of the rooms in a sinister heaven. did i mention that i can wear a tiara too? so who is c. walker in the country music world? i had a guy in a cowboy hat last night upset about not automatically getting a table. he just kept repeating his name, while my coworker and i stared blankly. i personally preferred the customer that was ready to slip us $20 for the next available table. so i took a little 2 month vacation from posting (positive that you all noticed) and got quiet for awhile. i never even posted after seeing the westcoast shows, and i feel sort of badly about that. i think everyone knows how wonderful they were, so i won't elaborate. i'm sure people are more interested in important current events....like the new album coming out. but i met so many great people and made new friends out there that made the concerts an even funNer experience. (hey to you all) other than just generally having a blast, i did get to sing the lalalalas to there's too much love in sanfrancisco and the whole band signed my ampersand shirt with my extra cool silver marker. i'm so happy the band chose the cities that they did - especially portland, sanfrancisco, vancouver - everyone should spend lots of time in these places. but that's old news. *ode to 3 states i was in* lalala life is good free like a bird lalala i think you should cross the fjord lalala come down south and kiss my mouth colin's sweet devil that i am. bye for another good while, amy b. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 15:32:06 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:32:06 -0600 Subject: Sinister: isn't life too short for shyness...? Message-ID: you arrive too late and get stuck with the broken chair at the table next to the toilet, and the music makes you wonder why you've brought your scarf along. you take it all in for a moment...you smell the irish coffee and the pipe smoke, you glance quickly at a sad girl reading tarot cards, crowds of laughing drunks, and scanning further you accidentally catch the eye of someone you didn't want to see. he sits down and looks you in the eye and fumbles with your lighter, and you notice the lines on his arms and he tells you he's dying, and for once he's being honest and you don't know what to say...you're not sure what to do.... kathy was a pretty blonde sorority girl, the daughter of the mayor of a tiny town in ohio. a town so small that kathy's mom and sister once made a trip to valparaiso, indiana to "go shopping." valparaiso had two boutiques and a walmart superstore. kathy spoke often of her hometown, of pageants and barn dances and the fourth of july picnic....it sounded sort of fun. everyone liked the stories, or seemed to anyway. and then one day, kathy said something strange. 'well, it's such a tiny town, and everyone knows each other anyway. there's really nothing else to do.' everyone stared. nothing to do, apparently, but have sex. with anyone, anywhere...the barn dances....the fourth of july picnic...it was sort of shocking. she gossiped for a bit about people none of us knew. fascinating stories about the sheriff, the postman, the cheerleading squad, the minister.... the boy is still talking, and you can't keep your eyes off those lines on his arms. he's from london, and now he lives here. you talk about getting away, and he says "noplace is any better, really," and you dislike him for saying so. you think of kathy.... you rent a room in an old farmhouse and you learn to make a pretty mean potato salad. you spend eight hours a day at the switchboard in some musty office, painting your fingernails and paging through a magazine. you glance at your reflection on the side of the file cabinet and sweep your hair over your forehead, and you sit up quite straight and suck in your cheeks. people often say you should model, and you sometimes wonder. you walk home at dusk in your little brown coat, and you push the door open and toss your purse onto the chair. you scribble a little note and some hearts on the back of a grocery receipt, you draw some arrows pointing and you leave it on the table. you draw a bubble bath and turn on the radio, you dim the lights...and you don't know the year but you're feeling old. you just smile and change the subject, and the boy finally goes off to finish his beer, and you duck behind the counter for some water for your tea. you light another smoke and you think '2001. that's the year...isn't it?' 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 16:20:10 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:20:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you're like a mother to the girl you've fallen for Message-ID: hey, sweethearts! so, i got home from london thursday evening. i've had the best time with my mom and her sweet boyfriend! we watched silly movies and stuff. and... well, yeah! one movie that wasn't silly at all too! The Acid House!! i thaught i was going to die when i saw thet she had acid house! lovely. i've just seen it once before! so, i borrowed it. now i've got it at home. ooh, i love it! not just because belle & sebastian is in it (well, maybe a little) but it isn't such a lousy movie after all. so, i've watched acid house again. ooh. oh, befoe i forget it... can i join the under 20 club too? i mean.. i'm just seventeen, jo i'd love to be in it! pleeease? it would be so grate!! this whole moving-to-sweden-thing isn't turning out quite as good as i thaught. obviously we're not going to stockholm now. or maybe we are? i really don't have a clue! yesterday they said that we're going to goteborg, and just now thay said "well, maybe we'll be going to stockholm after all" i'm sick of this!! i really want to move to stockholm now! because.. well, i think i've got frinds there. at least, i see them as my friends. and, ofcourse, i see astrid as a friend. i hope that's allright astrid? well, anyway, we'll see what happens. oh, what if we won't move at all? i'll go crazy! i'm so looking forward to the mix-tabe-battle! the rachels is going to show you all how grate we are!! it'll be lovely! i made it to miss fruitloop's post again!! it's really nice seeing your name there, it makes me smile. actually, i'm sure that if you make it to fruitloop's post.. almost everyone would smile. she's a very nice girl, indeed. well, little darlings, i'm off. have a lovely day!! love, rachel oj ps. go rachels, go rachels, go rachels!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 16:51:00 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:51:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: when i was 20. Message-ID: <20011103165100.78253.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, welcome to the Jo update, i could write one of those useless newsletters that parental types compose, charting the sheer dullness of life and navigating you through the stuff that i get up to here in my little suburban room. I decided not to, having taken a dislike to the greeting "dear friends" which is essential when writing those kinds of letters. Ok so i am blathering but those of you who remember past posts would know that. I have just had my 20th anniversaire (ohhh french) and celebrated in style last night by going to the Bingo with my dear friend Charlotte. In a state of intoxication i became a member and signed myself up to a future including a nervous gamblers twitch. I heartily recommend it though, afterwards i stepped out into the chill of Camden backstreets and felt quite elated. I drank in many pubs and avoided only one due to too many "cool" looking people. I shall overcome one day. I used to avoid Camden, but now i may begin to frequent it, especially as a rather nice man smiled at me and said i had a lovely coat. (not in a Rik Mayal "what a lovely blouse you have on" way) The Belle and Sebastian thing that i feel obliged and somehow sad to mention was that a rather rumbunctous man swore at me when i mentioned them in a musicy conversation. How blinkin rude. Mind you his Parker coat was grubby so i felt superior anyway. Thankyou for reading this little recitation. An odd request but if you didn't think this post was pointless email me, purely for reassurance sake. Josephine xx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 3 17:10:31 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:10:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Asm Walton - Stud Muffin Message-ID: <3BE42507.51052BC7@york.ac.uk> Indeed indeed. I am back from the wilderness, although I would like to echo the sentiments of Mr. Casarotto a few weeks ago and say, "ease up on the posting for a bit while i catch up". Actually, that gives the impression that I'm important, which I'm not, and any one who says i am will get a Sarah Martin style kung fu chop. ASM WALTON - STUD MUFFIN As you will have heard from the afore mentioned Mr. Walton, there was a meeting of the YSM (York Sinister Massive) a few weeks ago where we basically watched all the B&S videos at Feather Boas house and were completely anal. Actually, I was completely anal and the rest of them were nice. I took minutes, but they degenerated into: a) Telling former list member Chris Checkly to leave on three separate occasions due to crimes against sinister. Too much free speech can be a bad thing. b) A list of quotes by me which Big Boy Beans found amusing What I find amusing is the string of women Mr. Walton has following him wherever he goes. Like the Pied Piper, only different. STUART DAVID OWES ME 5p He delivered my pizza the other night, but didn't have enough change. I let him off seeing as he can't be earning much these days. What do you get for two novels about funny things? The pizza was nice, but if you're reading Mr David, I'd prefer the topping stuck to the base. It's better that way. BELLE & SEBASTIAN ARE FAB I thought this heading would be contentious. Who's that dog on the cover? Why aren't they releasing Lord Anthony? Small boys on bicycles? In a fit of dedication I bought the LLPJ box set poster and the US tour poster all the way from sunny Philadelphia. The posters were more fun than the cheese. I also got a Thrum album (Monica Queens band) and I don't think too much of it. WHEN IS SAMANTHA MUMBA JOINING B&S? I don't know. Barry. Chris Jones. "Women follow me everywhere because I'm a big hunk" - Asm Walton (possibly) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyebrown at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 14:17:56 2001 From: lucyebrown at xxx.com (lucyebrown) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:17:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: When you make your peace with authority, you become authority Message-ID: <005001c16472$56174720$634528d5@q5v5f5> Shy beginnings>> Hello First ever email to list...and I can't think of anything very interesting to say, 'cept an introduction. Am I the youngest Sinister "reader" at 15, or can I be beaten?? Ickle introduction: I am still at school, sometimes it feels like it will never end... I live in a remote and oh-so-wet village in South West Scotland, famous for Robert Burns (although he didn't come from here), radioactive clams, and Foot and Mouth. I love The Doors. And Bob Dylan, the Beach Boys (hehe), the Strokes (cringe), Jeff Buckley (sigh) and of course Belle and Sebastian amongst (many) others. I am also besotted with animals (showing either my age or girly compassion) and the greener, more vegetarian, organic, CND things in life. Peace. I have three brothers. My youngest bro, Matthew, is 23, and is who (or whom?) I've stolen music taste from. He works for ScotAmc in Stirling. He and Adam, 27, play guitar and have seemed like they might just drop everything and form a band. It never happened. Adam's an Ed.Psychologist. My other brother, Jamie, is 24...and unhappilly single. He likes going out...so if anyone out there is looking for a kind, beer-orientated love...let me know... I've tried desperately hard not to make this email pretencious (or pretense)...or obviously written by a minor...and not to fill it with "..."s. Oh well. Lucy P.S. For beaded earrings and bracelets by mail order in Uk made lovingly by me visit http://www.go.to/periwinkle "I think people resist freedom because they're afraid of the unknown. But it's ironic....That unknown was once very well known. It's where our souls belong....The only solution is to confront them--confront yourself--with the greatest fear imaginable. Expose yourself to your deepest fear. After that, fear has no power, and fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 17:51:06 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:51:06 EST Subject: Sinister: The NJ girl is feeling... MELANCHOLY! Message-ID: <15d.36cb4fe.2915888b@aol.com> Sorry Silas! Hahaha! i should post more! Oh im so lazy! and im sorry for deleting most of the Sinister emails... but SORRY! You all live in AWESOME places and brag about Oh wow now im in europe and traveling around and blahdiblah! I LIVE IN NJ! a suburb in New Joisey!... you know how lame this is. FUn to me is going to 7eleven on a friday night! hahaha. oh boy. so i was sick yesterday, bleh! But the BEST cartoons were on last night. Invader Zim was actually GOOD! haha. And dexters labratory! and SPONGEBOB! how many of you saw spongebob last night? HE WAS CURSING! on nickelodeon! EEP! but they bleeped it out with flipper noises. You see guys, thats whats exciting to me! PFft. well i might see coldplay in december, but its on a weeknight. OH THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS LIFE! Woe is me, DAMNIT! anyway.... Its just another rant and rave, i *should* say something about bel and sebastian. How many of you guys have live journals?? eh? AND WHEN are bel and seb COMING TO THE EAST COAST! im gonna go personally to scotland and kick stu-ie's arse! pfft! well my waters boiling! YUM RAMEN! HERE I COME! BYEBYE VICKY! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 19:31:05 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: live fast; die young; leave a good-looking corpse behind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011103193105.44647.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> I really liked kirsten kenyon's last one. and the ones before too. but the last one is the last one I read. and I really liked it. I did. do. some people said things about writing styles. I've seen trends. emerging. because that's that they. do. I'd sigh. oh. and they pass. too. I was going to leave off posting for a while. to say it. and. but I haven't. some people have said things about me. apps, ben [mister b]: 'So I keep it short. But not. As short. As richard. Gillanders.' calumn [PoP]: '(should there be a rule regarding minimum sentence length imposed on Mr. Richard. Gill. And. Ers. ?)' kenneth: 'I watched Atomic Kittens on CD:UK last weekend, I couldn't help but noticed that in one of their songs (the name escapes me), they managed to use over 30 consecutive single syllable words during a chorus. A literary masterpiece, or did they just copy Richard Gillanders?' [my favourite. although. it isn't about syllables. is it? but. my favourite.]. these are a bit not nice. well. like. I should be a figure of fun. hah. I don't mind... I thought I saw the velocity girl saying something much more nicer than anything anyone else had. but I can't remember where. now. I won't stop it. though. I was going to go to amsterdam on friday. the one coming. an [almost] arranged academic ambulation [almost]. but. ah. it seems like almost arranged isn't actually arranged. and our convenor wants to be postponing it until january. despite most of us having paid deposits. so. it was amsterdam or paris or barcelona. he said 'moscow' too. at one point. because the there was a special offer on flying there. but we won't. fly there. umm. if I went to amsterdam on friday. I'd miss out on the NATIONAL POP LEAGUE on friday. and I don't want that really. and I think smog are playing when I'd be away. and the beta band? well. maybe it's for the best if we don't get to go. I like one of my tutors for this year. a mister gerry grams. or gramms? I forget. but he's good. has an attitude. is a dude. hm. if people say nice things about you and seem to believe them but you know they're inaccurate or not at all deserved. well. no. and you don't really feel like you like the person who has said them. should you feel worse because of these, seemingly, complimentary comments? or. something else. if I were ever to be idolised by anyone. I hope it'd be by someone I idolised. also. or. at least. liked. but. I don't think being an idol would be all that great. a bit of a Shock To The System. and I couldn't be bothered bleaching my hair all the time anyhow. oh, it'd be easy to be an idle. it is easier. I like the FRUITLOOP's posts. commentary. without dissent. right? yeah. that's right. preferable. no. I like them. they refresh. and all. she has a nice niche. to fill. [pronounced 'neesh'. of course.]. [not 'nitch'.]. but sometimes. when I'm reading. it feels like I'm writing. I had imagined there was more than there is. bye. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 20:35:52 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 20:35:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Trying to avoid confusion wherever humanly possible Message-ID: <20011103203552.A22896@candle.btinternet.com> Stop reading now. Yes, I do mean you. I had an idea the other day for a Grand Project. I want to write my autobiography in pictures, because it would be much better than words. Not pictures of myself, but pictures I have taken or made, and pieces of letters that I have written to people. I came up with this theory that if you put together all the things someone has made like that, you get a much better impression of them in your mind than if they try and tell you themselves. Seeing through the eye behind the camera, if you like. Then, you can combine this with bits of writings they have made when they weren't looking to make an impression. Emails they put together in haste, little jottings to friends. Things you don't think about writing too much. It would help avoid confusion. THINGS IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE, NUMBER 332: Aureoles and Oreos. I first had this autobiography idea when watching a lovely documentary about Surrealism on the TV. And I thought: a visual autobiography which contains no pictures at all of its subject. It's not really a *surreal* idea, to be honest. A surreal autobiography would just have pictures of random-seeming things. Letting the subconscious through and all that. Pictures of: an oil refinary, a lemon, a packet of biscuits and the corrugated surface of a field, all in sequence. All connected to me, and in some kind of logical order; but unless you *are* me you don't know what those connections are. Unless you know that I like eating biscuits. THINGS IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE, NUMBER 479: Lobsters and knee-high boots. Of course, to make it worth writing an autobiography -- even one without me in it -- I'd have to do something interesting so people would actually know who I was. Unless the pictures were *really* good, which would be unlikely. I could write someone else's autobiography, I suppose. I was still thinking about My Pictorial Life when I went to a rather nice photography exhibition that is on at the moment. It briefly covers the entire history of photography, which is quite annoying because it reminds me that I am unlikely to ever be good enough to create anything like that. Maybe I would have been a hundred and fifty years ago, but not today when there are so many photographers lying about the place. I have to try and remind myself that each one of these pictures represents a pinnacle; one wonderful image from a lifetime's work. And good photographers become good photographers by taking hundreds and hundreds of pictures and throwing ninety per cent of them away. Whenever I feel an attack of surrealism coming on, I reread bits of Alice In Wonderland. It's a lovely book, and I think it's one of the first surreal books in the same way that the Odyssey is the first ever novel. My parents gave me a lovely hardback annotated edition last Christmas, and I love to light lots of candles and snuggle up in bed with it. THINGS IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE, NUMBER 927: Cabbages and kings. There was a photograph by Lewis Carroll in the exhibition. An ugly young girl, about seven or eight, wearing a nightdress and stood by a bed. Tne card underneath the picture said "Revd. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll)". A foreign man with a bushy moustache came up to me, and said "I know Lewis Carroll took photographs. Does this say 'Lewis Carroll'?" I think he was confused by the brackets. I need something to inspire me to photograph. Otherwise, I just think of the city and can't think of any new images I want to capture; then, when I *do* see something I don't have my camera and can't record it. Or, I daren't, because it involves shooting a stranger. I only dare take pictures of people I don't know when they are a long long way away and probably won't notice. THINGS IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE, NUMBER 15283: The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, and a rice pudding. A random thought I had earlier whilst watching the telly: Does that bloke from Travis model his hair on Richard Gillanders? I think we should be told. Right, that's it. I'm going to shut up now. xx gneissy -- ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sat Nov 3 23:52:32 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (John John) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 23:52:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Masterplan Message-ID: dear sinister, i was sitting on the sofa on the Thursday morning, passing the time before setting off on my epic ten minute journey of dodging young bucks off the neddish clans, and to avoid the mud river � called the woods � on my route to school. i looked hesitantly at the clock, because i knew it was time. and i wasn't ready! gulping down my Ricicles (usually regarded as blasphemous, but was made an exception in this case), i had to run and put my shoes on, do a magic trick with my tie to make it look reasonable, and grab my duffle-coat to depart for the usual morning at school. as is probably guessed by now, it wasn't a usual day morning. the time on the clock when i left said eight-twenty, when i usually leave at eight-thirtyfive. i was wondering if the early departure would be worth it as i managed to pass through the woods unscathed: my fringe was still in front of my eyes, not way past my ears; my hood was behaving itself for a change and not making me look like a silly poo; my trousers weren't splattered by the mud monster. today had to be the day. before heading to school i detoured to our local Alldays. the transaction took a matter of seconds, as did actually getting to school afterwards. but the seconds drastically augmented as i walked into the building, with the steps to the maths department looming. i stopped, breathed long and hard, and decided to go down. she wasn't there. my heart stopped dead as i wondered what happened. she is always there, a few minutes before her friends. i sighed and decided to go and see my partner in crime and her boyfriend. they told me she'd walk past in a while with her friend, Angela. i prepared myself. all those weeks of butterflies, of panic, of eating through countless packets of lovehearts for them never to contain the right one, and for me to be nearly sick from consuming too much sugar in a small amount of time. it would all stand for the next few moments, when she'd walk along.. with her friend. her friend. that was going to be a problem. i started whimpering. i knew her friends would know anyway, but i didn't want them to witness my downfall. and there she was. walking down the corridor with her gorgeous we smile, with her perfectly serene face that paired perfectly with her tropical sea blue eyes. with her amazingly gorgeous brown corduroy coat. a cry came instinctively from my friend: 'Angela! i want to show you something!!!' �yet again my heart felt like it halted from all motion as she walked past m, while i hid under the window. i walked up beside her, and avoiding any eye contact, said my excuses, and gave her the sweet with the message� CUTIE PIE i repeated my excuses, and ran. down two separate corridors, so that i was well away from her. i heard an 'aw' before i legged it, which probably made me run faster. as fast or slow as those fifteen minutes were, it didn't work. The Masterplan failed. as much as my friend Lynsey convinced me it would work (the only person to know my plan) it didn't, as the same evening at our Halloween party, i plucked up the courage after hours to ask her to dance with me, and my bestest attempts to make her smile or giggle ended up in vein as �i'll be right back� really meant �sorry� and i never saw her for the rest of the evening�. and that is why i am never chasing a girl again. johnjohn x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Sun Nov 4 00:22:20 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:22:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-7?Q?=C1s_if_we've_exhausted_our_emotions=2C_there's_only_time_?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?and_weather_left?= Message-ID: <02af01c164c6$c5231f00$d8facdd4@q2x8k0> Some night earlier on this week, I went outside to walk my puppy after having spend almost an day and a half in front of my computer. I was surprised to find the real world actually existed out there. It seemed as true as the imaginary one. It was dark, humid and shiny. It seemed a wee bit magical. And it is big!! A whole city lies outside my doorstep. You can walk down to the sea, buy ice cream and sit down looking at the lights of the city and of some ships, and of the moon too usually, reflecting. Almost a circle of lights, and you're sat in the edge of it. It made me feel guilty for always saying I don't like this place. As I said, the world out there is big. For a moment I thought I could feel the distance between Thessaloniki and ... wherever my friends are -most of them in Scotland; I could feel that distance on my skin. It was heavy. But distance is to be crossed, to travel in it. While travelling this summer, I was always surprised of how you can actually find yourself somewhere else. I guess this sentence doesn't make much sense. I was travelling by train, which is relatively slow (it took me ten hours to get from Munster, in north western Germany, to London). And still. The thought -the realisation- that you can find yourself somewhere else. Somewhere where things are different. Somewhere you've been thinking and dreaming of and imagining and all. It was really surprising. So. Distance makes me want to travel. Today, it's a really cold day. It feels like winter. Smells like winter too. The weather is crazy here, it was *summer* two weeks ago -it was 24 degrees at 11 o' clock on a Sunday night. And now there's this evil cold wind that comes from Russia blowing everywhere. Russia is a long way away, but it really is where that wind comes from. I learned that in school; however, I believe it. It probably is where winter comes from too. It's exciting, that you get something from so far away -so exotic!- blowing around the streets of your town. The world might just be magical after all. Travelling... when I was in my last year in school and everyone was talking about travelling, I wondered why. And I told myself: I want to see how the weather changes all over the world. And all the weather descriptions I had read in books flooded my head. I wanted to know how it feels when the clouds gather in the plains in north western Germany. How it feels on a beach in southern France after the rain. How does the sky look when the sun sets in England. How does the rain fall in Amsterdam. Geneva when it's foggy. And now that I've seen some of those, I can tell you -yes, the rain does fall differently in different places. And nowhere I've been to are summer nights so sweet as they're in June in Thessaloniki. But I have already said that. I'm being told lately about dreams of living in a boat or in a big house in the countryside. Which floods my mind yet again with pictures I have acquired from watching tv and films and from reading books, where people go on a holiday in a house in a green valley. I mean, I haven't actually seen for myself anything like that. I particularly remember a house in a Norwegian film I watched last spring -I won't say what it's called cause translating to English something that had been badly translated from Norwegian into Greek would sound awful. The house was white and small and behind it was a big tree that shed red and brown leaves everywhere. I miss autumn. As I said, the weather here is crazy, we go straight from summer to winter... although I remember faintly that it wasn't always so... In my mind also come pictures of the boat houses in Amsterdam and Rotterdam, and I remind myself, not without some pride, that I have seen them myself. Which brings back to travelling. I thought today, the state should pay for us to travel instead of pay for universities. Even Auntsadie knows it, school is bad for the soul. There are best ways to learn things than being told about them. We should be left alone to discover them. And travelling is part of that process. Oh! And everyone should have free internet and free phonecalls!! Especially long-distance phonecalls. Which is a way of changing the subject to list crushes and long distance relationships . Are they a Bad Thing or a Good Thing? Hmm. What if they're just a Thing? What if they're not that different from 'normal' crushes and short distance relationships? Yes. I know the difference. I feel it every morning when I wake up. And when I walk the streets of my town and they happen to look particularly beautiful for some reason. I've been told it's what you feel when you hang up the phone. I don't know about that. Yet. I also feel it when I tell someone I'm in love, or something like that. And I have to convince them I'm not crazy. Giving them a 'please don't say that, no, it's not like what you think' look. But, I insist -list crushes are not that different. Not more dangerous and risky than other kind of crushes. Someone who is 3000 miles away can prove to be a different person than who you thought they were. Of course. but. Isn't it that this can happen as well when you're sharing your bed with someone? I think you know it is. List crushes. You loose something, but you win something else. When I'm walking the streets of my town, and they for some reason look particularly beautiful. I know there's someone wishing he was there with me. That there is someone who'd like me to think of him. And I always thought, or rather no, I have discovered, that the actual part of a relationship, what makes it *it*, is having someone in your mind and in your heart. And near your soul. I think I've said too much. Love, and the overcast sky, the kind that makes colours look brighter, Dimitra +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emanuel_jose at xxx.com Sun Nov 4 03:28:41 2001 From: emanuel_jose at xxx.com (Jose Emanuel) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 03:28:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Should we swim with a peaceful manatee in the canal next home?? Message-ID: Brooms Hello to you all sinisterines. This is my first mail to list so I’m supposed to do a little introduction, BUT I WONT because I’m DIFFERENT from all....ummm... just joking. My name is Jose E Emanuel and I’m from Lima, Peru. Yes, B&S are popular over there also, but definitively not in a massive form. I said over there because right now I’m in Miami, Florida. I came last december to visit my father and I stayed... I dont know why yet. It was a good decision anyway. In Lima I just had some B&S cassetes copies while here I bought all the albums. Another reason... well there is this Peruvian girl I met the second month I was here during a hard depression caused by the shock of change maybe. She told me that if you try to talk to someone here they just turn their backs on you. She felt just like me. I sort of made friend with her for three days, but then the depression struck again, and I left all people interaction for a long time. Then I moved from Little Habana to South Miami. I didn’t ask her for telephone or anything, so my mission is find her and tell her that she had reason in what she said to me 9 months ago. I have found some data already. - Her mother is russian - She lives in a zone called Miami Springs - And the most frightening, her father is a little bit jealous. She can not receive boy calls by telephone, because she would be in big trouble. Very big trouble. (So she doesn’t give her phone number to boys) Very tough guy I imagine. Isn’t that challenging? To write this post it’s been very difficult. I’m very shy, and I when I received the mail telling me that I had left the nursery I thought it would be useless for me to write and for you to read what I’d put. However, today I am in a good mood. Even though is a bad day to be in a good mood, I am. (Michelle hurricane is heading to South Florida and it may reach us tomorrow or monday). And so I wrote. That simple. If I don’t do it today, I may don’t do it any other day in a long time. I have read a lot of praise for Rachel Fruitloop’s posts recently. Why is that? I mean, why all that praise now? Since I arrived to Sinister two months ago I liked her posts a lot, and I could tell immediately that she is a very nice person. Or is that they are getting better and better with time? Anyway her posts are great. I love when someone new post and she gives them a welcome in her post. It’s like maternal. Like a powerful Jedi telling an apprentice that he’s doing good. I wish I could express myself better in English. I am learning right now, that’s the reason of the errors in the posts and I’m afraid that any of that errors could lead to a misinterpretation of something. Hope not. Thanks for your time. REALLY! J Emanuel E _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeper at xxx.com Sun Nov 4 15:03:50 2001 From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 15:03:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: OFFTOPIC: plea to American listees for "Buffy" musical Ep!:) Message-ID: <200111041503.HAA16271@dork.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From dahling007 at xxx.com Sun Nov 4 17:33:32 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 17:33:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: they fight fire but tho they burn they do not fight themselves Message-ID: So yesterday the toast maker exploded and I haven�t eaten properly ever since. It�s amazing how much I had come to depend on toast. Toast and honey for breakfast, toast sandwich of tomato, onion, roasted red pepper, basil, cheese and mustard for lunch/dinner. It was quite a dramatic demise. I was washing dishes a foot away when suddenly there was an enormous spark - a mini-firecracker, really - and then all the electricity in the whole house went off. An autopsy revealed the power cord had been sandwiched in with the bread and melted through in two separate sections. Dinner was not the only thing that died with the toast maker, but also an informal ritual, or way of life, that had somehow revolved around it. My days consist of long periods of writing in my bedroom, interrupted only by the occasional trip to the bathroom or toast maker. I�m usually too pre-occupied or lazy to make a proper meal, at least not until late in the evening, so the toast maker was truly an essential appliance, more so than the television or even the radio. After I laid it to rest on the little garbage rug next to the door, I didn�t know what to do with myself. I stared at the refrigerator for what seemed like hours. I spent the rest of the evening pacing around my room in circles, dipping my finger in maple syrup. Before the incident, I had spent the morning telling my new roommate Jane all my secrets. I don�t know how it happened. And afterwards I was quite embarrassed. I always do this. I withhold so much from my so-called friends, but blab to strangers. My relationship with Jane began as expected. She moved in Thursday and I timidly showed her around the apartment, retreating into my room rather quickly as she went out to buy some groceries. Then we floated around the apartment, seeking each other out occasionally to ask questions or point something out, like the water boiler switch or the garlic press. We gradually began to speak about other things. But it wasn�t until we had our first drunken �family meal� that I became loquacious. This is another thing that has dramatically altered my little insular world, even more so than the untimely demise of the toast maker (after all, I will likely buy a new one tomorrow). The apartment is suddenly social. Cause and effect. New roommate means we had to clear out our �office� and consolidate our living room. Our enormous, open apartment once had two adjoining front rooms the size of an art gallery (and almost as empty). Now that space has been cut in half, and there is only one common area. We acquired a table and television and a lamp and started decorating the naked walls in an attempt to make the place more comfortable now that the cold weather has forced us indoors and off the balcony. On Friday, I ran into Joan of Dark and she came over to escape the dreary cold and rain. Coral was home, and Jane, and for the first time we had enough people for an impromptu dinner party. We squeezed into the kitchen, opened a bottle of wine and chatted as we watched Coral throw ingredients together for a huge quiche. It was great fun. When the meal was ready an hour later, we sat around the new living room table and had a long dinner, finishing off two more bottles of wine and a few bottles of Amstel. I walked Joanna to the bus stop and returned home to find that Coral�s boyfriend Peter had arrived. So the party continued, well into the night. The next morning, Jane, Coral and Peter were sitting in the living room, watching television and discussing Greek slang. I can�t get over it. There are people in my living room now. All the time. I had gotten used to not seeing another person in my apartment for weeks on end, or seeing Coral for 15-minute intervals as we bumped into each other on the way in or out. I suppose this is really not that big of a deal. In fact, I feel quite silly getting so worked up about it. But it�s disconcerting to realize one day that the entire nature of your home has changed dramatically. And it�s probably a good thing that I will be forced to be social. But. But. But. I dunno. I�ve been listening to the same two granddaddy songs on repeat for 40 minutes. I must stop. I�ve begun to need music all the time. Silence disturbs me. I wonder why this is. Coral has this theory about sinister. She believes that Belle and Sebastian somehow appeals to our deep, child-like sensibilities. That the music is warm and comforting, a salve to soothe whatever wounds we may have. She thinks we are all either wounded in some way or have a basic desire to return to a child-like existence. She points to those of us who are depressed, forlorn, confused, twee. Mind you, she has formed this theory of hers based largely on me and my descriptions of friends and tales of picnics and two or three forays into chat. I�m not sure how accurate it is at all - it does not account for those music snobs among us, for instance - but there you have it. Today was a good day to snuggle up with hot cocoa and a good book or bad film. It was cold and rainy and dark and dismal. But instead I tread half the city in search of a good caf�. I ended up at one halfway between the ritzy shops and student hangouts. It was very bright and proper, with waiters who wore black bowties. The clientele was old, well-dressed and perfumed. They were all paired off, or in groups of three or four, and they eyed me suspiciously as I sat alone by a window, writing and staring outside, dressed in pale blue corduroys, an old worn plaid shirt and a black sweater. It made me feel� good. I feel like perhaps I should begin referring to other listees and posts. My posts are always so self-involved. I never thought I�d turn into such a public navel-gazer. How pathetic. I feel guilty about this, a little. But I don�t know what to say, really, except that kirsten�s last post was so fabulous I almost printed it out. I�ve never done that before. I�ve noticed my anti-crush stance has not been received with open arms. Ah well. I haven�t changed my opinion, but I have enjoyed some of the pro-crush posts nonetheless. Hmm. You are all fab anyway, however misguided. Ha! Sorry. I didn�t mean that. Entirely. I�m going to read a smart, thick, depressing book now, maybe to catch a glimpse at the meaning of life. Or at least a few words that force me to use a dictionary. I think I am ready. �My name will be Money but you can call me Change.� ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tracy at xxx.net Sun Nov 4 18:02:13 2001 From: tracy at xxx.net (Tracy Ebberts) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:02:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: toast & sugar cubes References: Message-ID: <002d01c1655a$d78898c0$0201a8c0@morcant.org> sunday is my day...my boyfriend sleeps until noon, recovering from an evening of earnest hacking...hayley, my dear baby, goes off to her father's and i am left with a pot of coffee, sugar cubes, half and half and html... today i am putzing about with my portfolio, realizing i have done much and yet nothing...reading of girls sitting in cafes, elegant cafes i am sure and i, i am stuck in this desert wasteland...and yes, it is a wasteland...an agricultural mecca...and when crops fail and things blow up about the world...well, it's just a wee bit depressing...particularly as i remember my heyday...don't we all have a heyday? when things feel sad and you cry and walllow and you wouldn't change it for anything? this is not my heyday... and so her father tells me this morning that he is ready to head off to seattle...and if it means leaving hayley, so be it... and my heart is breaking in a million different ways... the funny thing is...this is why i like b&s... this is why... as stuart sings of wandering days and circus boys....and i can see him up on stage in seattle, and i can feel my head lean against the rail as i peer down at all the youngsters below (youngsters meant in the nicest way), youngsters in their heyday...and i can see him and his funny little glamour sexy dance thing...and his usa/flag shirt...and then the horns hit and i feel everything that i ever was and it comes crashing into everything that ever is.... and that makes me smile... on the matter of toastmakers... i highly recommend krups, if available...i have had mine for nearly 10 years and it's really quite a treasure... t http://www.retrodiva.net/lullabies +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sun Nov 4 18:35:08 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 18:35:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The post I haven't read Message-ID: (Non-b&s title, a smile to anyone who can tell me from whence it comes) I am in both posting overdrive and crushing overdrive. I know all this bantering about list-crushes is going on, but as I am not planning on marrying/going to live with any of them, I am fine. I'm not even old enough to marry and live with people other than my parents yet. Anyway, I have 4 or so list-crushes at present, although only one of them is registered with Miss Crush, and that was some time ago, that's a pretty long-running one. Posting overdrive, though. I have posted 3 times in 5 days. Which could be seen as excessive. I am, however, counting it as making up for the summer holidays when I hardly posted at all. Actually, It's just I'm feeling a bit on the bored side. Fruitloop (my team-mate), when you were 15, all the boys like me were hanging around wondering why all the girls didn't like us and neither did most of the boys. By the way, I have been mentioned several times in recent fruitloop digests as of late. I'm feeling flattered and proud. I thought I'd mention this, just in case any of you didn't notice. I was immensely impressed by Cunning Andre, who would appear to be dead clever. Actually thinking about work when you don't have to. That is true dedication. I had yet another sinister dream, this time about my list crush (one of them) becoming our lodger (even though we don't have one) and totally ignoring me in favour of her really irritating boyfriend. London Picnic, hooray! 17th it is. Whenever I go on #sinister, there is either no-one else there or I am doing something wrong. May I add that The Mamas And The Papas are brilliant. Mellissa Williams thought I was an excellent writer. I was dead chuffed. On a final note, fellow Rachel, Rachel OJ said: >oh, befoe i forget it... can i join the under 20 club too? i mean.. i'm just >seventeen, jo i'd love to be in it! pleeease? >it would be so grate!! Is this "jo" me, or is it another person and I'm just being vain? I like to know if I've been mentioned, it's just my acceptance craving. Oh, and I'm not in charge. All membership applications go to the Club Secretary, Mrs. Evilaccountant. !Viva Rachels!(I have lined up one of my mixtape songs now, so y'all better get scred now(no, it's not by reindeer section)) Joe P.S. For those of you who are interested, My sister is called Scarlett. Like Ms. O'Hara (Watch gone with the wind if you don't know who this is) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Sun Nov 4 20:16:17 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:16:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Spin magazine article Message-ID: <20011104201617.40894.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if someone already mentioned this, but there is a little article about Belle and Sebastian's show in Portland in a recent issue of Spin. It has a really cute picture of Stuart talking to the audience and describes the feeling of the crowd that night pretty well. Hopefully I can still buy it! Carmel ===== "Once again, packed like frozen food and battery hens Think of all the starving millions Don't talk politics and don't throw stones Your royal highnesses" --Radiohead-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From flashboy at xxx.uk Sun Nov 4 21:44:59 2001 From: flashboy at xxx.uk (tom p) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:44:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i seem to have left an important part of my brain somewhere, somwehere, in a field in cornwall, all right... Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Nov 5 00:36:07 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 00:36:07 Subject: Sinister: am i strong or weak? Message-ID: <183877268@spray.se> Hi Sinister, I just wanted to tell you all that.. actually, I don´t have anything important to say. Hmm. I should be writing a text about russian politics as I am having a group presentation about Russia tomorrow. But I haven´t done it yet, and oh, it´s so depressingly late to do it. It´s 00:18 here, I´m going up again at 7:00! I mean, why do I always have to wait for the absolute LAST second to do stuff? Oh well. I just thought I´d tell you all about my terrific day. I got woken up at ten by my mum, then she and my sister ate some newly-made scones and I took a shower (I was home alone by then, so I listened to Tigermilk very loud, and I showered with the bathroom door open so that I would hear it better) and sang along. I then walked to my friend Marika´s house. We have been getting really distant lately, we hardly talk on the phone anymore and it seems like, sadly enough, we´ve just grown into such different persons. Wo we watched some tv, talked and disagreed about stuff and then I went home. I walked home, oh how lovely it was! It was cloudy, a bit cold, no, more chilly and the wind was blowig quite hard, but I, in my black, warm corduroy coat, wasn´t cold, i also had mittens so that I wouldn´t be cold. I listened to B&S in my freestyle, a sort of compilationtape that I made for myself. I forgot lots of classics when making it, and I didn´t have the same kind of favourites then, but it is good songs and it´s nice to hear the one´s you haven´t really listened to properly for a while. I met an old lady that lives in our house. She looks like she´s 100 years old, she is so cool. We talked a bit about how much we both enjoyed walking around, and how nice the weather was, and how the condition of the paths in our nearby park was. It was actually nice to have that sort of conversation with someone. When I met her one time this summer she kind of giggled and said "I was just out picking berries in the park. But I couldn´t reach the one´s that are at the top. They are the yummiest". And then she kind of giggled and said she had to say goodbye now. I like her, she´s sweet. When I got home, I put on some make-up and then my friend Anna came, we were going to a small gig with one of my favourite bands Edson! And the supportive act was a band called Corduroy Utd. With my kind-of-friend Leo as a bass player, they´re dead good, got a record deal and all. Releasing their debut ep soon. Next week I think. Leo is a very good-looking boy. He´s very nice as well. I like him. I can get a bit nervous around him, but he is very sweet. Other people I met there: Fanny (yay!(it´s her real name by the way, yes) sweetie!) , Mikaela, Gustav, Adam, Emelie, Niklas, Johan. I have no idea why I wrote down the names of them since I don´t really know them that well and none of them are people that you know about. But still. Edson were so fabolous!! We were like 60-65 people, and oh how good it was! They played two gigs today, the early at 16:30 for people under 20, adn the late at 20:00 for people over 20. Very cute idea! it was such a small place, at one time, almost everyone sat down and it was so cute and nice. The girl playing the electric piano, flute and pling-plong-thing, and the one looking like a little minikeyboard with a little rubber-thing on it, that you blow in, er, is a bloody good candidate for being the next Isobel. She is so sweet, and she smiled at me. But the one whom I now fully adore is their singer Pelle Carlberg, oh he is gorgoeus! He looked to being around 25-35, and he was dead sweet, standing right in front of me as I was at the front at this wee stage, moving his hips and singing heartbreakingly soft. Edson are one of my favourite bands, they are lovely. http://www.edson.nu I think I might give you all a link to my schoolpicture for this year, if you all want to. I dunno. people say I look sweet on it, I think I look too happy, but what the hell, it is a quite nice photo. Anyway, I DEMAND that you visit my B&S-site and write in the guestbook and read the stories and.. and.. yes; http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling better get back to those russian politics, uh, BORING! no offence to anyone who´s interested in it, but it just doesn´t seem like the most interesting thing right now. love and stars, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dotsandloops at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 02:32:21 2001 From: dotsandloops at xxx.com (amy) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:32:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: beyond the sunrise Message-ID: <20011105023221.41461.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> i got to see a bootiful sunset tonight. a good weekend deserves a good post. i'll try to create justice. and. i don't mind gillanders. please. just let him be. poor soul. i understand. perhaps not to the same degree. but. i am in the know. i met up with mr. punk rawk himself last evening. i do indeed hope that my brother and i did not scare him. or scar him! *screeeeeeech* my brother is a dog on wheels. i shouldn't have let him behind the wheels of thee super tempo. oh no. can you believe we left a concert hall after seeing 2 great bands at only ... 8:45pm!? never have i been to such an early show before. quasi/stereolab. lovely, and lovelier. i think my brother wanted to hit on janet weiss. i'm sure he withdrew the notion at the last moment. lil' chef + mr. punk rawk = i had to have feta cheese. yes, i paid the $2.50 extra to have feta on my omelette. i'm a girl with needs. seriously, he is one of the nicer guys in michigan after all, and the fact that he got along with my brother makes him aces in my book. makes me more excited about getting in on a get together or picnic, or whatever. me needs more musical friends. spent today rubbing the feet of my pregnant friend, wendy. she's about due and is miserable. she's a small-framed girl and baby olive (the baby is indeed female and they are naming her olivia, hence the olive nickname) is resting herself in along moms ribs and stretching out her tailbone to the point of bruising the skin. mom needs comfort and girlfriends and massages. i did what i could and am sad i couldn't stay in lansing for her. she's got a great husband and our other friends with her. i just wish i could be too. she's my first girlfriend i've seen pregnant that i'm reallly happy for. all the others, i worried about the father being bad, their finances, other yucky things, not this one. they're doing it all just right. i'm so proud of them and happy for them. she's just really afraid of the action behind the word episitomy. i don't think i spelled it correctly. i haven't seen it written in years! it is a scary thought though, that. gah! so, yeah, the sunset was really amazing on my way home from the weekends travels. all that crazy pink and orange seemingly hitting the earth with a somehow fierce softness. i work evenings, so it's not very often i really take them in. i was quite moved tonight. i should mention though, that some of my sight to the outside of my car, was blurred by the good dousing the passenger side window got of red bull. yes. i tried it. without the vodka. all on its own. from the can. yuck! we tried to pour it out the window and ended up making a mess. off to the car wash i go.... group hugs and beer mugs, amy (viva rachels!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 02:44:43 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:44:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dancing just for practice Message-ID: Pre-post question: Anyone up for another Chicago excursion before the snow flys? Not a picnic in this weather, but maybe a meet-up and dinner in downtown? If so, can someone else plan the bloody thing instead of Michigan Jim? :P Onwards!!!!! Do people not dance anymore at concerts? I went and saw Stereolab in concert last night, and was quite suprised and happy because I had not realized Quasi was the opening act. Quasi are just brilliant, and their live show is just staggering. Stereolab were incredible as well, but Quasi just rocked out. My only complaint, no one was fucking moving! I've noticed this at many of the shows I've been to this year, the most obvious being the Jets to Brazil show earlier this summer, when I and my date were the only ones bloody dancing and jumping about and having a brilliant time. It's a bit weird to look around and realize no one's even bobbing their heads. I mean, honestly, there's an amazing band pumping out insane amount of noise and ace beats and these people look like dogs being shown a card trick. Here's a clue: DANCE! Jump up and down, bob your head, shake your head from side to side, do SOMETHING!!! I'm not a club kid or a big dancer by any stretch of the imagination, but dammit, what's wrong with people that they aren't dancing or moshing or even nodding their heads in time to the beats? Ohhh, now I feel old; "In my day we could barely walk after a concert, we had scars from dancing about in front of the stage, you kids today just don't know how to have fun...", etc. Dance, Dance Revolution? No. New game. Dance Fucker Dance. If you don't dance about at concerts the bouncers are allowed to wallop you upside the head until you start bloody moving. Quasi started pumping it, just kicking out madness and beautiful noise and I'm ready to start jumping about...and not one other bastard in the mix is moving. *sigh* Ken Chu said: "Knowing how love works is all fine as long as there is someone to love, I don't think I even know any single girls who live in this town, definitely not one who wants my ass" Ahhh, that is a problem. I know I hated high school because it seemed like there was no one who was my 'type', sometimes even college seemed odd like that as well, and the ones that were my type were already taken. There's no doubting that Ken's one of the good guys though, and there's plenty of women out there who'd love his ass. Ken, if we ever meet up the first couple Red Bulls and Vodka are on me. We'll toss them back and I'll teach ya how to do a Kimba impression that'll have the birds all over ya, not that I really think you need my help. Kirsten told us about the girl she knew from the town where all they did was have sex, and I know the type of town she's talking about. Those rumours you hear about small towns? A lot of them are true. Strange things go on in small towns. Trust me, I grew up in a smallish town, I could tell you *many* stories. Kirsten's post was beautifully sad, and I was struck by the last line; "you light another smoke and you think, 2001, that's the year...isn't it?" A new century already, and already it feels too much like the old one. 2001, and still no jetpacks or moonbases or even flying cars. I want my jetpack and my flying car, if we're still going to have war and death and famine in the new century, then the least they could do is get us flying cars. As to the talk of love and crushes and the like, I think of my friend Erin, who's somewhere up in the upper part of Michigan at the moment with the deer, and rednecks, and such. To quote Erin; "Fuck love, fuck it with knives!!" It it wasn't for the fact that Erin kicks with the other foot, plays for the other team so to speak, then I'd have married that girl years ago. I'm in a bit of a bad mood tonight, as I'm missing my friends. So many of them are scattered to the wind. Erin up north, Nick and Watson over in London, Jenny somewhere in Arizona. I miss London. I miss pissing away the summer in the Ben Crouch or the Bull and the Mouth drinking far too many RB&V's with my friends or hanging about the hostel bar at the Generator and chatting up tourists and travellers. Even my casual friends, like the lovely Elise (who I owe an email to for her thank you card) and her other half Sean, I resent the fact that I can't pick up the phone and invite them out for coffee or drinks, or the fact that I can't wander down to lovely Llew's bookstore and pester her into selling me heathen books, or even head down to the noodle store and have our resident noodle goddess Kirsten fetch me a bowl of noodles. This is why we need jetpacks and flying cars. They'd make sinister drink-ups so much easier. Oh, all this and I forge to mention that I had the pleasure of meating up with Miss Longcore and her utterly mad brother at the Stereolab show. Bit awkward at first, always is meeting new people. luckily her brother is as mad in the head as I am, though I was trying to be on my best behavior. In other news, FROM HELL the movie is shit, in the bad sense. FROM HELL the graphic novel by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell is a piece of art, and you should all read it. I took my niece to see MONSTERS, INC today, and it was actually amazingly amusing. I have to say that I agree with Stacey's friend Coral as to why many of us bother with the list. She's probably right for many, of course, there are always exceptions. Poe (the singer, not Edward Allan) is playnig Detroit this weekend and I'm well chuffed. Ahh, I've probably blathered on enough, and by the clock on the wall I see it's time to meet some of my friends at the bar. Red Bull, vodka, and much love to all the sad sinisters out there. Jim PS, a special tip of the glass to a special Sinister girl who learned the hard way that sometimes people are just scum and selfish bastards. And a hearty "Fuck them with knives" to said scum. I really hate it when people fuck with my friends. "And I'm up while the dawn is breaking Even though my heart is aching I should be drinking a toast to absent friends Instead of these comedians" - Elvis Costello _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 03:25:11 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:25:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Our Island In The Sun Message-ID: Dahling had an idea: Any other takers? I somehow managed to lure Ken Chu to make an utterly spontaneous trip into London a few weeks ago, can I entice anyone else into Athens? Think about it. Get back to me. And I�ll continue to scheme through the winter. Oh, that does sound lovely. How warm is Greece in late December? I imagine sitting in balconies with warm breezes eating baguette and cheese. I think you should lure some UK people from their comfy little positions. They always get visitors. I'm actually having a bit of a disagreement over where to go for a holiday. He wants to go somewhere hot and all-inclusive. I want to go to London. It's just that those package vacations keep conjuring up mental images of drunken frat boys singing 'One More Time' while the desperation hangs in the air and from the bikinis. But Dahling, you could give us a bit of culture! So I put off my own wishes, I'll be there sooner than later anyways. Although lord knows what I'm actually going to do when I get there. Vel - no signs of 'Wanted: Go-Go Dancers To Work In Glasgow' yet. Any nice Scottish families in need of a Canadian au pair? Costume optional. My latest songs I wish B&S to cover: The Want Ads, (how lovely to hear Struan singing 'experience in love preferred, but will accept a young trainee') and Guantanamera (thanks to Arik for helping me on the correct title for that one). My third one would be Girl From The North Country. You know, I think I actually prefer the Bob Dylan and Cash duet rather than just Bob Dylan. It seems more appropriate that Stuart David would sing that song, he has such an appreciation for northern girls...but we know that can never be. He could be in a rocking chair with his guitar, the winds howling, the snow swirling outside, and, just close your eyes, boys and girls...imagine you're at the other end of the village. Press your hand to that cold window, he's singing to you! I like how Dimitra says her winter comes from Russia. Back at my old home, when a bad smell would arrive everyone would nod and say 'The winds shifted - I can smell Thurso'(the pulp and paper mill). I would love to speak Russian. And Welsh. My teacher tried to explain the double ll: 'it's a tch sound in your throat'. My ll just doesn't sound authentic, although this makes the pronunciation of Llew very interesting. Sometimes he's a bit too scholarly though - Did you catch the Aramaic undertones? Ah no, I didn't. Imagine that - in Los Angeles that have pomegranate trees! Oh Youn, the pomegranate WAS exotic and delicious. I saved one half for later, it's quite a physical job to eat one. The recent longing was stirred by a childhood memory. When I was about 8 or so, my fancy schoolfriend ALWAYS had one in her lunch. She had a jacuzzi as well. We'd make our skin lobster-red and then roll around in the February snow. Very Refreshing! The Moldy Peaches is closer to what my lunch was like. I don't know why I didn't just throw the unwanted fruit OUT, but no, I had to hide it in my room. Probably out of respect for Papa. I'd like to join the Sinister Grandpa's & Grandma's Club. I want invitations to sit on knees in rocking chairs by the woodstove, where The Farmer's Almanac is comfortably close by. Plus, I like to be called lamb or hen. Grandpa always thinks you need a bit of 'fattening up', how comforting. Not like boys who remark 'getting a bit of a tummy?' oh yes, just keep on racking up those sensitivity points! Love, Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 03:54:48 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: just to touch the flaming dove... Message-ID: <20011105035448.89951.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com> HELLO SINISTER! I thought I'd deviate from my norm and write a post with less quotation marks for a change! Today was one of those days that I love... It's dark and chilly and stormy outside. I've spent the afternoon listening to music and drawing pictures. The kitties are following me around the house. And it's just me and them... I have lost myself in a trance, I am in another state. I guess you would call it "the alpha state that I am in", a meditative state between sleeping and being awake. I have been drawing a picture for my list crush, Mr. B. And I was thinking that our song should be "Gathering Moss" by the Super Furry Animals. Ben doesn't know it yet, but he does now. I think it's the perfect song for crushes. Whilst listening to it and drawing, I contemplated how nice it would be to rest my cheek on his shoulder and feel his arms around me. *sigh* The thought gets lost in the pattern of tiny rosebuds and checkers on the quilt under which I'm huddled. Which gets me to thinking about other romantic ideas... and I wonder what it would be like to get lost in it with the boy next door... the boy being you, Ryan. Lord of the nursery! He is the kind of boy who could be a little bit of everything to me. I certainly don't plan on spoiling things by dumping too much smelly perfume all over it, though. I think things are quite nice without too much pretense. I only wish every girl had a friend like Ryan. I suppose drawing a picture for Ryan this evening wouldn't be too mushy, would it? I suppose a little sentiment couldn't hurt. Certainly not as much as a whack with a pink plastic Hello Kitty ruler! ;) There's NOT too much love! To quote Bowie: "All I have is my love of love, and love is not loving..." Love. and crushes. to you. all. (esp. Rich. Gil.) Rachel fruitloop P.S. Chu. P.P.S. Los Angeles. Meet up. Next weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 07:53:53 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:53:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Dancing just for practice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011105075353.20611.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Sad that no one was dancing to Quasi. I saw them at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland a few weeks ago and everyone was moving! Sadly there weren't too many people there, but it was quality, not quantity. > Do people not dance anymore at concerts? Who knows? It varies so much from show to show! It seemed to me that no one was dancing much at the B&S show in Seattle except for me and the few people around me. That made me want to cry because how could you NOT dance to B&S?? > act. Quasi are just > brilliant, and their live show is just staggering. I know...this tour has been just amazing for them. They have played some of their best shows lately. Oh and to Amy, I think most people attracted to women have crushes on Janet Weiss! She's just too darn cute and SO talented. To those who saw Quasi lately...did Sam hump his keyboards? He's so funny when he's getting ready to...keeps standing up and sitting down like he's really got to get something out of his system. Ah...Sam... Love and harmony :), Carmel ===== "Once again, packed like frozen food and battery hens Think of all the starving millions Don't talk politics and don't throw stones Your royal highnesses" --Radiohead-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 08:21:10 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:21:10 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: There's too much love Message-ID: <20011105082110.41945.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com> Hi lovely people! I don't have much time to write right now, cause it is 6 AM and I gotta go to college soon (urgh!). But I felt like posting, and I can't stand my classes anymore. Journalism can be REALLY boring sometimes. A nice thing that happened to me, related to the boring thing I do and study, was writing a report about musical critics. You may think they are all bad green people with big black eyes (and I have to admit I wanna be one of them), but they are all so nice. Unfortunately you can't read my report, cause it is in Portuguese, but I have discovered many interesting things about this job. THERE'S TOO MUCH LOVE Oh, I've been listening to this song all the time. I think it fits to me somehow. I mean, now. I'm in love again. He said he loved me. This couldn't feel better. And I wanna tell Rachel that. TROUBLES COME, BUT TROUBLES GO! Sooner or later a very nice person will enter your life and you won't even notice. And when you find out...you are in love again and life looks beautiful as it had never been before. Oh, I'm getting too piegas. Now I gotta take my shower and have some milk. Hugs and kisses, Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 5 09:34:41 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:34:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Wednesday Message-ID: <20011105093441.48015.qmail@web14909.mail.yahoo.com> This morning my tompaulin CD arrived and its playing for the fifth time. Its so good. So very very good. I know not everyone likes them but if you are in manchester on wednesday they are playing at the roadhouse with camera obscura (theres the B+S content) go go/buy buy! joxx ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 09:40:34 2001 From: stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com (juju cat) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 01:40:34 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the hymn for the dreams i am living Message-ID: halo sinister. just juju again. this time, from cambridge, uk. it is a quiet morning. monday. the sun through the window is warm... or could that be the heater? i sit in a slip and socks to tell you some random things that are of no use to anybody. when i left, he told me to find some sugar for myself here, maybe a nice fling, forget about there... i told him i was leaving my sugar at home. but i don't think it matters that we're apart so much.. i think fate has decided that's just how it shall be, and i'd better get used to it, or have my heart torn up every two minutes. our mutual friend, the one i am visiting here, brings him up quite often.. they are like siblings practically. so i've learned a lot about him and the way his life has been, and how i don't really fit into it all as nicely as i'd wanted to. and i'm wondering if i should change what i want now. ? do you ever just want to care for a person because you think you are the one who could? from the first night he stayed with me.. not the first time we'd met, but the first time i new it wasn't just his eyes i was drawn in by, he admitted being taken in by my abilities to turn a bad thing around with a positive spin. he had bumped up against the freshly painted new vespahaus door.. green paint all over the sleeve of his new black coat. i took it into the wc and removed what i could. he waited up, late as it was, on the couch. when i surfaced, he sat there staring, like he didn't comprehend what he was looking at. he thanked me endlessly, and then i shared my edward scissorhands wind-up robot toy with him, and we could have stayed up talking forever. there was instantly something there. i could have given him anything. but boys are dumb, i guess. they want something, and want to chase it, and sometimes they do.. but this one, he wants something, but just sits there dreaming about it, putting me off like he doesn't have the time.. what does it mean? i suppose today we will have bagels and mochas and a stroll around disneyland (my nick-name for this dreamy place). he will come up again, perhaps how he has finally planned to visit her as well.. and my heart will ache, thinking how he could have come with me. i think i am done with this heartache. bring me something new. i had my first ribena walking the streets of bath. there were grand fireworks everywhere, some even set off over an esso petrol station. (we ran far from that location.) the moon lit the sky perfectly as we strolled trhough a soggy green. we chased the fireworks and remarked on the girls' after five clothing choices (what is the fascination with boots and jeans and half-there shirts?? i was in a shirt, a sweater, a scarf, a jacket...). then we continued to eat far too much chocolate and cheese.. a steady diet of that could kill you, i suppose, but how divine! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm then we took our hire car for a spin around the south of england, almost accidentally but partly on purpose seeing seven sights in one day. we stopped in bournemouth to get a bottle of sand for a friend back home. now i hear her coming in. i shall shower and enjoy the day, trying not to think of him too much.. this *is* supposed to be my holiday.... love and endless sighs, juju "one day, i am going to grow wings: a chemical reaction..." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 10:46:36 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:46:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Media Studies and Rock Musicology... Message-ID: <20011105104636.1864.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Ola Sinister! Que Tal? I'm writing to you as I missed you so much. BOOTLEGS Did anyone other than Cardiff see Brian Appleton support? Well, if you did or didn't, I have just burned his 6-part Radio 4 series. Even though much of it is before my time (being 18), it was still profoundly hilarious. Requests for a copy to the usual email address... LOVE/CRUSHES As a point of fact, it seems that 100% of the people who ae on this list are caring people who all deserve appropriately caring relationships. It's a shame this isn' the case, but have faith - just remember that you all are special people. TRAVELS My route plan is complete! Another pleading request to inhabitants of Outer Mongolia, China, India, Perth (Australia), Cairns, Auckland, LA, San Fransisco, Texas and New York who are on the list - anyone want to meet up (and/or offer me a floor to sleep on?!) The tickets cost twice as much as I expected, so my budget is quite limited. The travels paid for. Rooms aren't. Please help! I will inundate all that bequeath me floorboards when I return. Honestly, you'll never have seen as many CD's/toys/bits-n-bobs, it'll be just like that festive winter holiday all those denominations celebrate... And of course, those who have already offered me a bed are revered. I'll leave them anonymous just so the others don't feel embarrased at helping out a poor wee lad. Under-20's club Isn't this a bit cliquey? Along with the Rachel/Will cold war ensuing, shouldn't we be striving for group unity? I don't know... My brother (who is almost 20) condones the use of cluster bombs in Afghanistan "because they were cool in a computer game". Gosh, he's like Alice. I guess i'm the White Rabbit. I'm late, i'm late, oh goodness gracious me, I'm late! Love Niko xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Nov 5 12:07:48 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:07:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: There can never be too much love... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058FE7@PIKACHU> List crushes are all well and good, but really we all want some down-and-dirty Sinister loving. None of this pansying about emailing people in different countries, just get on with it. Then we can create a whole new generation of B&S fans, and the world will be a better place. Unfortunately, Sinister women are, as a rule, far too nice to touch someone like me with a bargepole. I need the Sinister 18-30 club asap. Several people have said nice things about me. This made me happy. Because I'm vain. I reckon Judy is a tart. She's dreaming of horses, but horses are known for one thing - having enormous wedding tackle. I think the song is code for her wanting to shag a well-endowed man. We should introduce her to Ken. Allegedly. I made it into a Fruitloop post. Twice. This made me happy. Because I'm vain. You'll be pleased to know that my car is now feeling much better, and will now drive down the road without sounding like it's blowing its nose. Unfortunately I'm not feeling quite as good, after spending two hours in casualty in Sheffield Hospital on Saturday. While I was playing korfball, someone else's leg persuaded me to pick a fight with the Sports Hall floor, and I lost. I can cope with the stitches in my chin, but I look bloody stupid walking round with various plasters stuck on my face. But that's OK, because I'm not vain. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 13:55:24 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 13:55:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Never fool with fireworks Message-ID: On my way to the shop to buy some milk I passed some kids. "S'cuse me sir. Can you spare a penny for the guy?" The "guy" was a stuffed sack in a wheelchair, with some socks stuck onto it. It was horrible. I gave the young scamp a clip round the ear. No, actually I just ran away. For Halloween the goths in the neighbourhood had a dress down day and hung about town wearing "slacks" and "jumpers" while everyone else tried to be scary. I went for the Lovejoy look. Before I went to see Belle and Sebastian at the Royal Albert Hall I devised a system to help me remember how the new songs went. It was all to do with whether the next note was higher or lower than the last. Deceptively simple, like musical braille. Of course it didn't work at all. The next day I tried to remember how the songs went and got them completely wrong. "La la la... I love my car, I love my.. Oh no that's 'Lady In Red', let's try again..." So when I hear the new single it will be like hearing those songs for the first time. That's not a bad thing really, it it? I always enjoy the shock of the new. Or do I mean nude? I took music GCSE, believe it or not, and I was so hopeless that everything I wrote sounded like a nursery rhyme. I ended up calling one of my composition pieces "The Jolly Pumpkin Man" to pretend it was supposed to sound that way. My two compositions were; 1. The Jolly Pumpkin Man 2. Music in a "Gamelan" style Like I said, I was rubbish. Luckily we were all rubbish - someone I knew played "The Theme From Howard's Way" on the organ. He was rubbish. Someone else sang "The Wind Beneath My Wings". She was rubbish. I imagine everyone else in the country was rubbish too, because I got a B. I didn't deserve it. I'm rambling now. On to something slightly more relevant... I emailed jeepster today asking if they sell records with press-out centres for a jukebox. They don't, so... Does anyone know a Do It Yourself way of making these? Tell me if you do, it would be very helpful. Thanks for the flood of emails to my Information Service, by the way. I'm always here to help! Keep 'em coming! Robin. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 5 14:09:59 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:09:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: weee *giggles* Message-ID: Hallo sinister boyz and gals.. well i am really bored so i thought i would share my bordom with you.. *be's bored* *that was it* sorry anyhows hope we are all really excited for tonight just please be care ful and stay safe *hugs* luv rich xxx im not living im just killing time +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 14:10:39 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 09:10:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Get It In The Back Of The Net, My Son Message-ID: Hi List, Sorry, I just posted last night, but I figure this little burst makes up for the months of inactivity. I had a strange dream last night, B&S related, haven't had one for years. I wandered into a room in this huge, empty building, and low and behold...Struan Murdoch, himself and a guitar giving a little concert. Very informal, people sitting cross-legged on the floor. Unfortunately, I came in on the last song. But it was so good! I don't know how to describe the effect. It seemed like the best song I had ever heard. How frustrating to not be able to remember dream-music. Anyways, for some reason it was called 'Chemical Wench'. The weird part is after he finished the song, Alex James from Blur and Carey from This List (who were there) jumped on in each other in passion. Carey then left, and I had to deal with a giddy, lovved-up Alex. I pushed back his fringe, stroked his temple and tried to calm him down. He was actually very nice and genuine, not a total snot like you would imagine. He wore a 'Chemical Wench' t-shirt. Fortunately, he didn't sing that song that ends with 'Sun sun sun sun' and left. Anyways, after that I tried to come up with a ruse to talk with Struan, but it all felt so awkward. I helped put chairs up on the table next to him. The last thing I remember was climbing up a wall made of snow and ice in tiny shorts and a t-shirt in order to watch a bizarre wooly-mammoth-cow-like illegal fighting game. I like the idea of being a referee, but I don't know how much attention I'd be paying the Wills/Rachels when there's Stuarts running about shouting things. He can shout, Och yer daft woman, That was in! (or whatever they say) but I can shake my head with ultimate authority (or accept bribes). I haven't heard the new Spiritualized album yet, but I did catch a little mini-interview with J Spaceman on the tv the other day, talking about how the best music makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, you feel it in your body as well as mind. It sounds simple really, but how true! Love, Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.siegl at xxx.at Mon Nov 5 14:24:27 2001 From: vanessa.siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:24:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: letters to noone Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011104002016.02f80790@pop.chello.at> I have been pondering for the past week at least whether I should finally write a post again or not. Sometimes I feel so unable to express anything ... and most things have already been said. Same as most significant melodies have already been written and most of what we are listening to today is just a variation of what has been there before most sentences have been spoken and every story has been told in a similar way before. The differences are only subtle. So sometimes I feel like resorting to total silence. Because it normally speaks louder than words and is open to all interpretations. I originally (re)joined this list because I lost touch with two people (for the most parts we are still speaking but it isn't the same and sometimes I think it would make little difference if we would just stop doing so .. and I cannot help resenting them. And sometimes I cannot help letting this slip.) I in particular enjoyed writing to because writing to them made me feel like I was different for a while and liked describing things and sharing my thoughts... Sadly I seemed to get less and less appreciated after a while (or maybe I just started to get on their nerves; people have their own lives and I suppose my insecurities are my problem and not anyone else's and I cannot blame anyone and I won't.) but I still needed someone to write those things to and some place where I got a reaction so putting them into my journal alone wasn't enough. I thrive on reaction because I need to feel welcome ... There are others I am writing to and others I speak to and people I have spoken to for ages .... but I have become guarded. I wish human relationships would work the same way as my ZoneAlarm firewall does. "Will you allow application X to connect to the Internet? yes no always remember this answer" "Will you allow this person to connect with your heart? yes no automatically block this person now and forever" And posting to a list is different... it's not the same as writing to someONE at the other end of the line you can actually picture reading and enjoying it.... So I never really wrote much to .. here. I have been sad lately. I have been sad all summer. Sometimes I feel like I have been sad all my life. I am not sure if it is the aftermath of getting robbed or whether I would have been like this anyway... I remember that night... I remember sitting in a club and putting two fingers in my ears in protest against Teenage Dirtbag* ... I remember cramping my style a bit later by dancing to Placebo* And I remember feeling like leaving because being there made nothing better or right .. I wanted to see people and light but I got thrown back onto myself... so I walked back home... And I had been walking through that park 100s of time... and only two days before I was joking that if something would happen it'd probably be drug addicts and I could talk to them ... and yeah, I could. I could talk to them. But that didn't stop me from breaking down afterwards. And I wonder if 2 minutes of feeling helpless have changed me ... or if I would have changed anyway and I only got dunked in a little faster by all this. I will be going away a bit later; probably next week. I think it will do me good. I need to learn to breath freely again. This is also the last post from this account as it will be terminated in a couple of weeks. *disclaimer: this is not meant to offend anyone. Just the way I felt that night. -- sometimes I'm right. sometimes you're wrong. http://www.clodia.f2s.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 14:28:29 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:28:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ka-BOOM! Message-ID: Coo, aren't fireworks brilliant? I went to the display in the park on Saturday and was late, as usual, and got to the park gates just as the countdown began (as usual), so had to run as fast as I could into the park to get a good vantage point, as usual. It was grand. So noisy that it made my head spin and so beautiful that my eyes all filled with tears and I thought "My life is so so perfect right now". Then I put my arm around the loved one and she told me off and started scanning the crowd for homophobic brats that she teaches at the big school on the hill. After the fireworks I went out drinking with a posse (I've never had a posse before, and they weren't really mine anyway, I just borrowed them off my friend Sexy Susan). The night was tremendous, notable for many things, the best being my "sexycool" dancing with the loved one to Northern Soul, which resulted in us headbutting each other so hard I still have a little sore spot on my forehead. However, on Sunday I had the worst hangover I've had in many many years. After lying in bed for several hours, a castaway on hangover island, I decided to get dressed and go to the loved one's house in seach of sympathy. I stood up (doing well), looked down at myself, realised I couldn't leave the house in the hideous purple nightdress and red trousers that I had slept in and turned to face the wardrobe. I was instantly baffled. I looked at my jeans. "How do they work?" I thought to myself "How do I operate them?" Everything I looked at seems just impossible to operate, all the lifting of one leg into trousers, then the other, the zips and buttons and shiny fasteners. In the end, I settled for jogging trousers, a zip up top, and then, on a whim, a black hat that used to be my grandma's. It was the best I could do. I call it "Confused Tramp Chic" and guarantee it will be in Vogue within the year. Once at the loved one's, I lay down and tugged at her sleeve and whimpered like a sad puppy (also dribbled like a sad puppy too, I fear) until she sent me home. Oddly, it was one of my best days in ages. Self pity is quite marvellous, I think. Yesterday we went to the pub to see the fireworks but we had missed them. I was very disappointed. When I read "7 pm" on the poster advertising the display, I assumed it meant "Arrive at about 7.30 pm, have a drink with your mates, have a little chat, then when you're ready at say.... 9 o'clock? we'll set off the fireworks". Sometimes being laid back is such a disadvantage. I have just read Genevieve's post about her dream. Normally, I find other people's dreams a little difficult to follow and get enthusiasm for, but her's was tremendous. I love the idea of a "bizarre wolly-mammoth-cow-like illegal fighting game" and would happily climb a mountain of ice in shorts to get to see one. I have the date of the new B&S single in my diary (other things to do that day include HAND IN ESSAY in big red urgent writing and GO TO WORK in small black pessimistic writing) and am very much looking forward to it. I think they played the song when I went to see them in Birmingham and I recall being awful impressed, even though I can't remember anything about it at all now. I have decided to stop being so nice about people in my posts as it only makes them vain, like Big Stu Gardiner. Instead I shall end by saying I am indifferent to all of you. Madeleine _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bethan_macleod at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 16:42:31 2001 From: bethan_macleod at xxx.com (bethan macleod) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:42:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: emerging from lurkerdom.. Message-ID: hello to everybody in sinister-land, so, here it is. my first ever post. This is a bit like that awkward moment when you walk up to a group of people who are already deep in conversation and try to think of something to say so you can join in. I just wanted to tell you all how much i've loved reading your posts over the last few months. I work at a university, doing routine administration in a peaceful, but dull office. Sinister posts are like little beams of sunshine breaking up the monotony. Yesterday was really cold, but bright and clear. I went on a massive bike ride all the way to the Thames. The light was just perfect for taking pictures. I've got this big old camera that I sort of inherited from the next door neighbours. It's really nice but you have to set all the settings manually, which i'm not particulaly good at. I'm impressed with Will's idea of a pictorial autobiography. I don't really have anything that adventurous in mind. I mostly just try to take photos of normal things in a way that makes them look kind of special. I love surrealism too though, Will. Wouldn't it be fantastic to smoke loads of opium in the name of art? It has taken me pretty much all day to read the weekend's posts (I had to do a little bit of work in between though, otherwise they may stop paying me). I liked Tom's names for his local cows. It's ages since i've been to the countryside. I also need to ask Stu - what is korfball? Or am i missing something? Still haven't heard the new single, but i must say i do like the gaudy, yet still lovable sleeve. well, bye for now then, beth _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 18:36:07 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:36:07 EST Subject: Sinister: Industrial metal is just not polite Message-ID: <91.12dfe055.29183617@aol.com> Hewwo, Guess where I was last night? I'll give you a clue. It was a concert, but not by a band I like. Fear Factory at the Glasgow Barrowlands. Gasp. See, what happened was my friend really likes them but didn't have anyone to go with so I agreed. This was before finding out the dress code and finding out that we had to show up hours early to try and catch a glimpse of the band. So I duly trotted along, but I was banned from wearing anything I usually do, so it was leather and corset and eyeliner for me, because we were going to blag our way backstage before the gig and cords and a duffle coat apparently do not lend credibility to this. Getting backstage was very easy. "Hi we're with Road Runner Records" (subliminal message "Hi, we've both got cleavage look") and we were past the bouncers and into the dressing room. I met three people from the band and failed to be impressed because I don't like them. But they were sweet. Well, one was a bit quiet and in a mood, and the lead singer Burton didn't talk much, but the guitarist Dino was swell. He played guitar a bit and asked if i played and I said yes so he said "do you know this" and played something heavy, and I said "no, but I know some Smiths stuff". And this became the legendary episode of me teaching Dino from Fear Factory how to play Bigmouth Strikes Again and some of String Bean Jean. But he was sweet, he signed stuff I didn't really want, and gave me his plectrum. Jaz took pictures so I can show them to all the trendies and say this is me teaching Dino a Smiths song" and destroy their world. The gig itself was utterly terrible because it was heavby metal. The supports were squeaky kiddie punk, and each song began with stuff like "this is a song about politicians", or "this one's for all the mother fucking rebels here". I got out of the mosh pit before Fear Factory came on because I want to live, and escaped with only bruises, a kick to the temple, what my friends all insist is a black eye, which hurts like hell, oh and some random boy tried to bite my chest and possibly is now impotent. Hopefully. And on a non-heavy metal note, Johnjohn is such a sweetheart and he deserves the perfect girl and no one less. Oh, and if there are any complete geeks in glasgow, near the Belgrove Hotel where all the crazy drunk homeless men stand outside and spew, theres a place called Chu's Cuisine. So ken, you've been found out. You sell kebabs to alcholics. Also I hope everyone had a swell Halloween/Samhain/ New Year. I went to see fireworks at a fairground on saturday. We had sparklers and I had a big long warm purple coat on and I bought a purple glo thing and pretended I was a space angel. Mixing super advanced technology with space magic to fight baddies and rescue puppies and kittens and orphans. And tinks stole my friends purse. Obviously if I'd had my purple glo thing at the time I could have just used superpowers to get it back and aprehend the villains. But I never. Maybe next time. Hugs, Jen Ps. I have lost faith in the postal service. I'd boycott it, but I kind of need it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 19:06:48 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:06:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: eXtreme elvis Message-ID: <20011105190648.4531.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> *WARNING. EXTREMELY UN-TWEE CONTENT. DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NO APPRECIATION FOR RAUNCHY PERFORMANCE ART.* currently in the metropolis of san francisco, california, there exists a young fat man who likes to perform as elvis. at his first show he took a dump on stage and threw it at the audience. he was not invited back to the venue, and the bay area's favorite new performance artist was born. six months or so later, eXtreme elvis has a following and a philosophy. he's even a bit heavy-handed. one doesn't expect to be preached to by a naked fat elvis impersonator with a penchant for publicly consuming his own piss. but one would be wrong. on saturday eXtreme elvis performed a show. a headliner for at least 4 months, his supporting act was, in the words of my friend, "one long anecdote for art school students. and it's the same anecdote-- i saw a naked handicapped man." their "set" consisted of one screechy aural assault that lasted an interminable 55 minutes. the band was composed of at least 10 members in various states of undress, fronted by a naked man in a wheelchair. all in all, profoundly pretentious and uninteresting. but sinister readers might be interested to know that their keyboardist was a mod. while the naked middle -aged female singers groped the naked frontman, while tits swung and cock was stroked, the young mod keyboardist carried on as if he was playing with a kraftwerk cover band. ah, the prescribed disaffection of hipsterdom. then, at about midnight, came mr. eXtreme. upon entering the stage, he immediately pulled down his pants and pissed in a pint glass. the contents were consumed by his keyboardist. after making out with a guitarist, he tore off all his clothes and began grabbing audience members. my face did not escape his grasp. topically, he was not performing elvis songs this night. instead, he sang a nice song about not being afraid of the terrorists, about not being afraid to drive on our bridges, and about getting over fear. its chorus was "reality," and it was a nice enough song. he passed out joints. soon he was rolling his naked body all over the club floor. people poured their beers over him, so he became absolutely filthy. he writhed around on the ground, his huge naked body covered in wet grime, grabbing the legs, ankles and crotches of onlookers. people ran. i hugged the wall, inches from his grasp. suddenly a naked woman crouched over him. with his microphone-less hand he reached up and pulled out her tampon. while singing "reality" he insterted the device in his own anal crevice. people screamed. he tried to stand up. after a few mis-tries, and a rousing finale of drums, sax and guitar riff, he stumbled out of the club, where he slowly dressed himself out on the firescape in the cold frisco night. and i drove home, back over the doomed bridge, thinking that seeing a man shove a used tampon up his own bunghole was the most effective anti-war protest i've seen yet. these are strange days, and sometimes comfort must come from the most unexpected places. god help us all. --kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s.arnot at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 18:47:57 2001 From: s.arnot at xxx.com (s.arnot at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:47:57 GMT+00:00 Subject: Sinister: is it sad that lemonade is the only happy thing in my life? Message-ID: <20011105184816.PIFI17234.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> hiya peeps, my mind has been in a very curious place of late. i can't describe it. the world seems to consist entirely of numbness, although with some underlying annoyance, like a small, sharp pebble in your shoe. only not like that at all. i have been brought out of this strange, strange place by a few things in this last week, but the memory of those things does not seem to help me. the first was a girl. i have seen her for three consecutive weeks now, in the camel club in huddersfield, and for three weeks we have made prolonged eye contact and danced to the same songs, sometimes confident enough to dance next to each other, sometimes not. my friends think it is hilarious. we have not spoken. i have a feeling that the reason i have not spoken to her, it that deep down, i feel that this might ruin something. i don't know what. i would quite like to just sit next to her, and hold her hand. without saying a word. the second thing to remove me from my little world was lemonade. upon waking on sunday morning, i needed a drink of something, and so reached for the half-empty bottle of tesco value lemonade on the desk by my bed. upon drinking it, and in a rare moment of clarity, it suddenly struck me quite how strange the sensation of drinking fizzy juice is. finally, i went to see mogwai last night. during their set, i was completely entranced, and had no need for stupid feelings and thoughts, just for standing still and quiet, eyes closed and letting everything flow through me. i hoped this morning , that when i woke i would be able to recreate this by listening to mogwai through my headphones and lying still on my bed, but those hopes were in vain. i am having to concentrate on the excitement of the mix tape competition to try to gain some feeling, reading the comments of my fellow rachels brings a smile to my face, a smile which will turn to one of satisfaction at the rachels triumph in weeks to come. this post has been quite cathartic, and i thank you for listening. i think i think too much, but also not enough. piddlemonkey/ rachel griddlemonkey lo-fi songs are GRATE -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyebrown at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 20:31:24 2001 From: lucyebrown at xxx.com (lucyebrown) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:31:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I can't bare to see Guy Fawkes dummies burning. Throw a Hitler effigy onto the fire. Message-ID: <001d01c16638$d7973fe0$ecbf28d5@q5v5f5> Penny for the Adolf? I pity Guy Fawkes and honour his attempt to get rid of the then right wing government. He was merely a Catholic who wanted to be tolerated by the monarchy and government. (I know that conspiring to kill people isn't very kind...but we all have our faults). Hehe. Can't remember why I started this post now. Ooh - marvel at the artwork!! ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' Lucy xxxx www.go.to/periwinkle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Nov 5 22:52:23 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 22:52:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: falling is fun Message-ID: hello my wee lovelies, I started this message by pasting most of Dimitra's post but then i realised that my contribution was limited pretty much to "yes","that's right" and "i agree totally" so i decided i couldn't do that. I still want to talk about love and list crushes though so whatever can i do? Well we've had a lot of mixed reviews and a rather biased view on list-crushes and we have had the lovely lindsey baker be disillusioned and other lovely people be bitter and sad: "Lindsey you must not think like this", the same goes for anyone else who is bitter or sad or disullisioned,except change the Lindsey bit. Yes everyone can get very badly burned by love but the only reason it hurts so much is because having it is so beautiful and dare i say yummy. If love wasn't transcendentally beautiful then people hurt in love would just shrug their shoulders and walk away much in the same way as someone who has just lost 50 pence, the reason it hurts so much when love fails is because it's so beautiful. We should never give up on anything that is beautiful I read the wonderfully nice JohnJohn's masterplan and how it didn't work and that made me think about my friend-girl again. I remember sitting in my room hatching a masterplan to woo her over, i decided on a poem rather than a wee cute sweetie because i knew she liked poetry. I sat writing it for days and it turns out it was actually pretty good although im sure that it'll never ever get into any romantic poetry compilations but it was good and just the ticket to win over any young girls heart. Anyway i sat down next to her in the library one day as i always did, she was a friend back then before she became my friend-girl, and as the bell rang for the next class i handed her it and ran out and into my next class knowing i wouldn't have to see her for a whole day. Anyway the poem actually did work but in the end she brutally crushed my heart as she decided to get back with her ex boyfriend. This was actually a recurring theme with me and my friend-girl. Anyway after the first time my friend-girl broke my heart i vowed to give up on love and i did for a while until my friend-girl decided she wanted me again then broke my heart again and then i gave up on love again. But now im happy and like like really happy so the point is you can't give up on love no matter how many times your heart gets broken. Life is not a big test,you don't get a big medal at the end of, so while we're here we should try and be happy and for that while you may not need love, you should never ever become bitter and try and hide from love or dismiss it or give up. Something will come along,it did for me and im useless,not useless just used less. Than other people who are used more. hmmmmm. I think i'll defend list-crushes by talking about the magic of love. I think it was James Gilmer who said it was the little things that matter and that love isn't fireworks and thunder and i think he's nearly right. I remember a lovely madeliene post a while ago talk about how love was mundane,well thats not quite right but it was similar, and it is to an extent but it is magic too and life is not a film so it can't all be a big epic love story but there are times when love is magical and these times are what make love yummy, transcendental special instead of just special. The magic of love is easily transferable to list-crushes speaking on the phone to your crush and then having to run away for ten minutes to try and stop your grin reaching your ears so you don't need to explain to your friends how someone so far away can make you so happy. It's being so happy chatting to them that you can't stop glowing sitting at a computer and then maybe even getting up and dancing and then getting soup feet. Its sitting in a country park with your friends at 3a.m with B&S playing on a wee ghetto blaster with a flask of hot chocolate looking up at a beautiful purple sky. Wondering whether your crush is looking at the same sky and then receiving a lovely message from them that makes your heart skip a beat and causes your friends to enquire what's wrong and why you've went all dreamy. This is the magic of love, the fairy-tale moments, whatever you would like to call them and you don't need physical contact for these just your loved one inside you,in your soul. I have more but i've said enough already Love, Hugs and Magic Danny xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 00:29:55 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 00:29:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: torra fy ngwallt yn hir Message-ID: crunching through leaves where i crunched through snow, it only seems like a few months ago but the snow is on its way back [from russia? who knows]. it is a while since i have walked back from phil's place, the half-hour walk usually punctuated by primal scream, new order, belle & sebastian, spiritualized, super furry animals on my minidisc player. today i am accompanied home by at the drive-in; sacrifice on railroad tracks, freight freight train coming freight freight train coming. i can scream at the top of my voice in the park, if the inclination took me, tonight i shuffle past the drunks pissing in bushes. they would only make comments if i screamed at them so i dont, my army parka collar pulled round my headfones round my ears. i smell of woodsmoke. our bonfire burned quickly but brightly. the one next door, in the carpark, burned long but with matresses and wardrobes, how uncouth, we had a christmas tree on ours, where the hell *that* came from i'll never know. phill [whose house we were at] has just been laid off. with only two months to go until his apprenticeship is finished. he's fighting them all the way. until then he joins me on the pile of unemployed. at least he has four years of training as an engineer behind him. i carnt even get a christmas job. sorry if i'm depressing anybody but that's just the mood i'm in last night i listened to the sigur ros album again. i lay on my bed face down 'till it was dark. i watched the sodium lamp outside my window flick on and then change from a deep red to the orange glow we all know and love. the clouds changed from huge stratospheric to thin straggling horizontal. like great expectations, but the only uprights in the scene were telegraph poles, not jibbets. i watched the magpies that have nested in my street. i've named them belle and sebastian. how twee. except there were three of them, is one the chick? a bit too late in the year; i'll name the newcomer judy. the wind is heading out to sea. i only live a few hundred metres away so the fog often rolls up my street and you can smell the salt in the air. not tonight. the smell of black powder hangs heavy. last night it felt late at six o'clock, now it feels early at 12. at least i know what day it is. i must leave you, you don't need to read this drivel. but who else can i talk to? please take care in all that you do and of those around you Pez* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 00:40:02 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 00:40:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: engines of gloom and affection Message-ID: "The sky is green, and there is no book to tell us what it means. it has never stopped raining." So it�s Monday, meaning I could have gone to buy a toast maker. But I didn�t. It�s like I revel in the suffering or something. I�ve been floating in and out of the kitchen, opening cupboards, staring at a handful of base ingredients, looking for anything that does not need mixing or cutting or heating or altering in any way. So it�s been peanut butter. At least it�s protein, non? Last night, I had to get my ass in gear and cook something. I mean, really now. So I saut�ed an onion, added some sugar water in an attempt at caramelization, and ate it. By itself. Me and a bowl of onions. Eventually, I also found some potatoes under the sink and made some chips, which I covered in salt and vinegar and Parmesan cheese. Yum. Dave is worried about me. He wants to come over with some tofu and vegetables and make me something healthy. Oh, how I wish he could! But he is in Washington, D.C. and I am here. Even the phone company makes it nearly impossible to bridge the distance. I�ll break out of this funk eventually. I have a job interview of sorts on Wednesday. It�s for a babysitting/tutoring job for a pair of 8-year-old twin girls, who are described by their very own mother as �difficult.� I�m frightened. But for only seven hours a week I would be making enough money to pay the rent, and I would have enough time left over to do the job I came here to do (which does not pay the rent) - journalism. Although I�m beginning to think travel writing is not necessarily journalism. I�ve decided to do something drastic. I am staying away from #sinister for an entire week. It was Dave�s idea. And it is a damn good one. Let�s see if I can do it. Unfortunately, it means I will likely write too many posts and send out too many unsolicited emails. So if you all get personal commentary from me about your latest posts, do not be afraid. Support me as I try to shake this addition. Yes. I painted today, too. That took up a few hours. Then it sounded like perhaps this three-day monsoon was over, so I went to the front room balcony to check, and I staggered back in shock when I saw that it was night. How did this happen? I was actually considering going to buy a toast maker or some food, but I looked at my watch and it read: 6:30. Damn. Well, I guess that�s what happens when you wake up at 3 p.m. Shameful. I must do something about that. So now I still have many, many hours to kill. What shall I do? I allowed myself an hour online to check emails and read posts - there were tons! Thank you boys and girls - and now I�m at a loss. I may actually write something productive. I haven�t written anything for publication in more than a month, mainly because I have failed to land an assignment. But I stumbled upon a new travel web site that looks really promising and decided I want to contribute to it, even though I won�t get paid. I need to write again. Even if it�s just for practice. And it�s kind of like being published, in the sense that I can put it on my CV and add the articles to my clip file. Sad that it comes down to that. But really, it�s just as much that I want to feel part of something worthwhile. My friend Michelle and I almost took over a prominent web-based music zine. It was her idea. She had been contributing to it regularly on the side as she worked days alongside me at the newspaper. The owner announced he was going to retire the zine after 20 years because he couldn�t keep it up anymore. So Michelle got a crazy idea to take over. It would be a pretty major project - this was like a small business, and this guy�s full-time job - and she started writing up legal contracts and letters of intention and all that. She had to name a board of directors, and we recruited a fellow writer and music guru and a web page designer to join our enterprise as we planned a buy-out. A buy-out! Insanity. I was excited to be a part of it, even though I knew it would suck away all my free time and not provide much supplementary income. But it didn�t matter because I would have a product, something to show for it. It never happened, obviously. The owner ultimately decided against letting us buy the magazine�s name and all associated with it. There were disagreements about copyright and use of archives and all that. It was complicated business, it was. Ah well. I�ve had fleeting thoughts about starting a publication of some sort. I mean, what a resource there is at our disposable were someone to start a sinister zine or something. It seems submissions would be remarkably easy to come by, written and otherwise. Hmm. Printing is the problem. Yuck. Ah well. I should stop thinking about such things and just work. Or go to a film. Yes. To a French film with Greek subtitles, which will really do my head in. I know neither language well enough to follow conversations, but at least the visuals are supposed to be spectacular. Nighty night all. Be good. And tell someone you love them. And why. MWAH! ~dahling PS: I wrote this at 7 p.m., well before the eXtreme elvis post. It�s now 2:30 a.m. and I feel silly even bothering to send this now, for� FUCKING HELL KYLA. THAT WAS FANTASTIC. What description, what form. Wow. I�m truly in awe. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 03:44:06 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:44:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: morning sounds the same as mourning, doesn't it. Message-ID: <32687499.1005018246876.JavaMail.imail@dotty.excite.com> hello sinister. i really don't have anything to say, but as i was sitting here wading through the lovely petals of sinister posts i've gathered, i simply had to write and say how much i love you all for never making me feel alone and for always wanting to make me fly. usually to other countries. where i can sit and have a nice bit of tea and wear my brown shoes with the tan stitching and have no one label me a 'hippie,' as my sister recently has. well. poo to her. she just wishes she had my button badges, etc. this weekend, your lou was sick. sick sick sick. and sadly, sickness came while i was at the bookstore -- though, it did wait kindly enough for me to purchase my copy of ballad of the sad cafe and present of the fountainhead. then. after i paid. it was happy that i was going home. so i slept. and this morning, read. and then came back to school and my own apartment and the newspaper. and my tummy hurts. i tend to feel ill a lot, i have noticed, and i recently wonder what, exactly, could be causing this. and i think, if it's not the newspaper stress of constant stories (damn people for doing things that make news), then it must be my sadness manifesting itself into physical badness. i'm sitting here looking at the photo of myself wearing a wedding dress at the newspaper halloween party. and i look more bride-like than i thought i did. i was wearing this pearl-encrusted headband with little comb teeth on, which dug horribly into my head. but i sacrificed. and that night, i had amazingly rounded up a lovely boy to go as my groom. but, at the last minute he had to work. so there i was. all dressed up with no one on my arm. and the next day, my insides came out to keep the outside company. i always look forward to wrapping myself up in the bedsheets and blankets at the end of the day for a night of sleeping, and the sheets are always cold when i finally get in. and i hardly ever really, really sleep. and then i begin thinking about what i have to do and what i wish i could be doing, and why the bed is called a twin-size when it only ever holds one. i plan my outfits for the week, and then try to sleep, mindful of my hairdo, so that, on the off chance i might have to jump straight out of bed and go somewhere, my hair (and subsequently i) look good. and then, at this point, i usually have to get up and write for a wile, just so i don't forget whatever it is in my head that will one day be hailed as genius after i'm dead. like carson. and then morning comes, and i hope i'm not sick feeling again. this morning, i felt ill all over again. so. but maybe my feeling bad is just a consequence of my envronment, you know? several reporters down here are eating american style chinese food, and the smell is hideous. hm. i asked for lazy line painter jane for christmas. i don't have that, either. badness, indeed. oh yes, one more thing. i am thinking of compiling my pulling tips/ dos and donts in a special holiday edition for our own stankin' david and any others who like them as much as he does. if it goes off, it could be a real sinister event of sorts. ok. thank you. misslou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 05:59:22 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:59:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles Sinister meet up on Friday! Message-ID: <20011106055922.8523.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> HELLO SINISTER!!! I have a big post for y'all in the works, but it will have to wait for tomorrow, as I'm not feeling very well tonight. Boo hoo! But I had to let all of you in the Los Angeles area know that a group of us are planning to meet up on Friday night, so if you're interested in joining us, please e-mail me and I'll give you the info! Members of the WILLS AND RACHELS TEAMS will be present. It's sure to be a Raquin' good time! Also some other very nice and less competitive Sini-kids will be in attendance, so don't be shy! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 6 10:55:47 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 10:55:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If life is a game, then true love is a trophy... Message-ID: <21800000.1005044147@pc235152.pctc.liv.ac.uk> Wotcha. Just read an email entitled the masterplan from John John and it made me think... a lot. Dont give up on chasing girls, cos soon you will be too old to chase girls. Once you hit 20 you find yourself becoming too sensible to chase. I think thats the beauty of Belle and Sebastian. The hidden underlying message ... your never to old to act like a bit of kid. And to me thats great, i need it. Thinks get too serious when you get older. I wish i was still at school and could just fancy girls and maybe chase them about have a bit of fun... look foward to certain lessons cos you know shes gonna be there. I want my naivity back , which is strange cos i was so glad to get rid of it at the time. Being in Uni is shit mainly cos its full of annoying students but everything is so fucking serious. In school its a laugh, in school it doesnt matter. Whatever anyone tells you. This isnt meant to be a down sided email. Far from it,what im trying to say is if your young enough not to care then dont. Chase girls all you want, just dont get bothered if they are not interested. You can save that for later. Im going to Portugal at Easter for 2 weeks and im gonna act like a big kid and have a good time, im gonna get loaded... Lil' Bob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 10:57:07 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Who plays me: A younger, less attractive and drunk Melanie Griffith. The soundtrack: Styx. Message-ID: <20011106105707.71311.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> stop it. I haven't slept in the last forty-three hours. or so. so. some might think I'm dedicated. I'd try to stop them. but I'm too weak. I have a critique today at two o'clock. that's in three and a half hours or so. I was supposed to show my tutors a lot of work last tuesday. but I didn't. today's the final crit. I'm supposed to have a lot of work to show. but I don't. I've done a lot of work. or it feels like I have. I think I left it just...ten hours too late. silly me. madeleine, not wanting to promote vanity, said: 'Instead I shall end by saying I am indifferent to all of you.' all of me? surely there must be SOMETHING about me that you like. that WAS written for me. hey? or. ass. u. me. hm. yip. jump. almost carrying on with your vanity theme. or. RATHER. big stuart gardiner's vanity theme. and. well. gosh. isn't HE great? and modest too, I hear. a rare quality. almost carrying on. a wee while ago astrid wiezell [yeah?] had a terrific day. she said 'oh how lovely it was!' I read this as 'oh how lovely I was!'. I laughed. because. what a great thing to say! then I read it again. and I laughed some more. she has a photo. her opinion her appearance in it? 'I think I look too happy'...and 'but what the hell'. yes indeed. what the hell? that made me laugh too. she kinda reminds me of assia wevill. but not in proper ways. talk of people far away. it isn't even a suggestion. although it looks like it could be. now. I've decided. it is a suggestion. or something a little stronger. crushvoting: isn't the anonymity a wee bit...? hey. I wondered who had sent. but. then. I stopped. self-control. wow. yeah right. now, also, now, it's true: you can stop someone from thinking. hah. no: ...thinking in a disillusioned or embittered way. simply by telling them not to not to think in a disillusioned or embittered way. or. it's false. I forget. people that tell me my memory isn't that bad! who are you? I can't remember. perhaps I talked to you on the phone... I...seem to recall. nope... ...yes I recall: I do remember calling. who are you? despite my intense fatigue. I'm sort of not so unhappy. yes. but. what the hell? love, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 11:41:50 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:41:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: are you the lover or the beloved? Message-ID: ooh...lovely miss lyndsey's lovely post reminded me that i wanted to send y'all an excerpt from the ballad of the sad cafe. it regards all this crazy love business. and that's the last i'll say on that issue (i hope). in other news: it stopped raining. the sun is shining. i'm leaving the house. you must all see amelie. and belle and sebastian still rawks. >From The Ballad of the Sad Caf� By Carson McCullers First of all, love is a joint experience between two persons - but the fact that it is a joint experience does not mean that it is a similar experience to the two people involved. There are the lover and the beloved, but these two come from different countries. Often the beloved is only a stimulus for all the stored-up love which has lain quiet within the lover for a long time hitherto. And somehow every lover knows this. He feels in his soul that his love is a solitary thing. He comes to know a new, strange loneliness and it is this knowledge which makes him suffer. So there is only one thing for the lover to do. He must create for himself a whole new inward world - a word intense and strange, complete in himself. Now, the beloved can be of any description. The most outlandish people can be the stimulus for love. A man may be a doddering great-grandfather and still love only a strange girl he saw in the streets of Cheehaw one afternoon two decades past. The beloved may be treacherous, greasy-headed and given to evil habits. Yes, and the lover may see this as clearly as anyone else - but that does not affect the evolution of his love one whit. A most mediocre person can be the object of a love which is wild, extravagant and beautiful as the poison lilies of the swamp. Therefore, the value and quality of any love is determined solely by the lover himself. It is for this reason that most of us would rather love than be loved. Almost everyone wants to be the lover. And the curt truth is that, in a deep secret way, the state of being beloved is intolerable to many, the beloved fears and hates the lover, and with the best of reasons. For the lover is forever trying to bare his beloved. The lover craves any possible relation with the beloved, even if this experience can cause him only pain. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 11:52:07 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:52:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hairy mole Message-ID: Hello, Someone said that the list got a lot more twee lately, and I read it and it was kinda true so I'm going to balance it out yin-yang style by writing about my arse. Is there possibly a post eerier than one about my arse? One about my arse during a halloween party, maybe. Yeah I went to a halloween party on Friday night, it was fun. After an arsenal of drinks I got drunk, some people got more drunk than I did but we all had a great time, then I woke up the next morning and someone was using my bum as a pillow, it was quite funny. I hope I didn't fart during my sleep. Unfortunately, no one shoved a tampon up my buttocks either. On my train/bus home back from London I fell asleep for a long while and inadvertently put all my bodyweight on one leg, instead of my buns, I woke up with the World's Greatest Pins and Needles (tm). I had pins and needles on an entire leg for 5 minutes, I got off the bus and tried to walk along the pavement and I realised that I couldn't, it was quite funny being stranded in the middle of the road as if I were trapped in quick sand, hehe, bit of a farce. I went to a Sainsbury's the other day to buy a bottle of Vodka and a few cans of Red Bulls, and I took them all to the counter, the girl at the counter went; "Are you going to mix them together?" in a really inquisitive voice. "Maybe..." I replied, worried that I was doing something illegal. "Have you done it before?" she asked again. "Um, yes" I replied, still wondering if she was gonna give me a health warning or something. Then the girl came back with.. "OOH IS IT NICE?" I started laughing, and told her that yes, it is lovely and she should try it sometimes. You should too. It seems to be very hip to talk about love at the moment but unfortunately this post had been a bit behind. I do love you tho. Okay, I better stop this right now, apparently Girls seldom make passes, at boys who talk about asses... sigh no crush votes for Ken once again. Full Moons and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 20:12:32 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:12:32 -0800 Subject: Sinister: radioactive clams Message-ID: <005c01c166ff$7c54a420$bf6901d5@aqlzosqt> the subject line is a tribute to lucy from scotland - welcome :) i thought i'd fill the last hour before starting my new job by writing to sinister. although many minutes have been wasted deleting the mysterious emails and attachments that have mounted up in my inbox over the weekend - perhaps the virus you were talking of, ruvi? but it seems that both computer (virus) and body (anthrax) are safe for now. (note to johnjohn: maybe that girl thought your cutiepie was anthrax-tainted?) i was in more mortal danger last night, however, at bonfire celebrations in lewes. standing a few feet from a man chucking burning barrels into the river was a highlight. small pyromaniacs in slipknot hoodies throwing bangers at me was more of a lowlight. but the biggest danger came from the cider and doughnuts i think. on the way to lewes, another young slipknotter was saying 'penny for the guy, and i'll tear this fiver in half'. i didn't like to tell him that he wouldn't get far in any capitalist venture like that. later, matt reported more younger generation idiocy (no offence to the sinister under-20s club, who are without exception intelligent and lovely). a boy came into his shop asking for lazy line painter jane. 'you won't have heard of it' he said, disdainfully scanning the hip hop merchandise. 'we haven't got it' said matt. 'well, have you got the album it comes from' said the boy... now i don't ever look down on people for not knowing every fact about music they like, but if you're going to present yourself as an expert... maybe it's not a good omen for my new job that i spilt water on a library book and have been trying to dry the pages with a hairdryer, so now it's gone a bit crunchy... but it's better than the time i dropped villette by charlotte bronte in a rockpool in pembrokeshire. having just read my last few digests, i was happy to see my two favourite sinister boys posting on monday one after the other. from that you can work out who you are for yourselves.... :) how did i manage to score a job where i don't have to go in until one o clock? best get dressed now though i suppose. luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 12:41:26 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 04:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Love isn't brains, children, it's blood. Message-ID: <20011106124126.27BBB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 6 12:44:29 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:44:29 BST Subject: Sinister: there's a psychology lecture going on at the other side of the r Message-ID: <65C11FC08E9@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey sinistereenies, i hate bonfire night. its rubbish. i mean who decided that it was a good idea to stand outside late at night at the coldest time of the year when i haven't even got my winter wardrobe sorted out yet and it'll probably rain. in a field. and fireworks are rubbish. only old people and small children really appreciate them, they manage to get some enjoyment from pointing and craning their necks and chorusing "ooh" and sometimes "aah". and the food's rubbish, stuff that's supposed to be a special treat that you only ge one day a year, but who really likes toffee apples? i hate bonfire night. so i was quite pleased with the idea of just staying in last night and watching telly until at 10 o'clock my boyfriend decided that it would be a really good idea to hunt round every shop in south manchester to try and find one that still had any fireworks left and then spend 20 quid on things that made really loud bangs and didn't do much else. this was after i'd spent all evening telling him how much i dislike bonfire night. grr. and what was worse was the fact that the guy fawkes episode of casualty |i love casualty| was on on saturday and the token fireworks victim ended up really quite badly disfigured. so i was frightened of going anywhere near the fireworks even when we were clearing them up. grr. i won the guy fawkes art competition in primary school once, you had to draw a picture of something bonfire and fireworky. the prize was a building society account with a pound in it. that never struck me as strange until i told someone the other day and he said "you went to a jewish school, didn't you." i laughed. and don't even get me started on halloween... who needs an excuse to sit in the dark and pretend they're not home? i do that every time the phone rings, although not the in the dark part because that would be a little excessive for a phonecall. i think its because my parents wouldn't let me go trick or treatreating when i was little. grr. and while i'm at it, who invented online graduate recruitment application forms. they ask all the same nasty essayish questions that normal job applications ask (describe a time when you have overcome a problem, describe a time when you worked as part of a team; i'm a loner who's led a very sheltered life, i just haven't done these things) but i'm trying to complete them in a noisy university computer room, so my only hope is to write them down, go away and think about it and come back later to get on with it. actually now i've typed that it doesn't seem like such a difficult process, but it really is. i'm making myself angry now so i'll stop. i can't wait for christmas ;-) love and sparklers (now i do actually like sparklers) cynical fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goingoutofmymind at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 14:41:30 2001 From: goingoutofmymind at xxx.com (goingoutofmymind at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:41:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: there an albert hammond bootleg in the house Message-ID: <006d01c166d1$31fc4960$dda4fea9@littlealan> Hello everyone I am new and I thought I would introduce myself.... My name is Alan and I live in Scotland, and I am almost (gasp) 30....please say it isn't so, I like doing lots of things, a bit of photography, sleeping and I followed the mix tape debate with glee, I love doing mix tapes, I am an eclectic sort and most types of music float my boat, hell I even though 'Baby One More Time' was a killer pop song.....I pause while I get booted out of the group. Although I draw the line at Nu Metal...I think I may well be missing the point .now a little about my life I am madly and deeply in love with Joanne, music is such an important part of my life, but oddly enough I have never had a girlfriend that has been too keen to it; that all changed, I know I have meet the person that was made for me, except for one small teeny tiny problem, She lives in Washington DC; love at first sight and all that; I flew over there and spent June with her and I am going back 2 weeks today for three weeks, then she is flying over to Scotland for Christmas and New Year, I do miss her, but life is still great as I know she is there. Now a girl that will happily spend longer than me in a record shop, and I do love record shopping, so any suggestions for good record shops to visit when I am there will be appreciated; I was in a good one in Dupont Circle and a good one in Arlington, which was pretty close to the finest fast food restaurant in the known world, this dodgy looking chicken place (the name escapes me) Chicken, Chips and Coleslaw, and all for under $5, it is almost a religious experience, I can't wait to return. Bonfire night has been mentioned, I am glad its over as no more kiddies setting off fireworks at two in the morning for another year at least, I treat the festival with indifference, my mother has a fear of fire works, and when I was a child till I was about 13 I had to watch the bonfires and the fire works from an upstairs window, so now I can't be bothered with the whole thing, and now that its passed I can look forward to Christmas, I love Christmas, its a fun, happy time and I love buying presents. Anyway, enough from me, its my first day off for a while and so I think I may well go back to bed for a bit I'll talk to you all later Alan +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 16:45:50 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:45:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Where the sky and water meet, where the waves grow sweet, doubt not reepicheep, to find all you seek, there is the utter east... Message-ID: <20011106164550.75778.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> hello there... ..sinister seems to be very loved up at the moment...i like seeing people in love...i've never been there...only the stupid giddy kind of unrequited love...which gets tiresome after a while because you're daft and wont do anything about it..and then *thwack*..you see the person again and your stomach does a triple backflip and your knees have taken leave of your legs and your lungs have moved to honalulu leaving you a jibbering breathless wreck...sometimes i think i'll never be in love and sometimes i think i dont ever want to be..because once that first feeling fades and you are actually able to accomplish small household tasks without drifting off to loveland and dropping cutlery on your foot...is it fun anymore?..i dont know...i'm sure it is..i'm in the middle of a stupid situation at the minute..you know...i think shes looked at me the same way..and theres that silly awkward tension every time i see her...but maybe thats just coming from me and she's actually completely indifferent to me...and i'll probably never know because i'm awkward and stupid like that..yikes... why is wallpaper so terribly dull?...i'm currently in the middle of re-decorating my bedroom...it gives me something to do because i havent got a damm job...why cant they make crazy rainbow wallpaper which makes your eyes bleed if you stare at it for too long? Or bright green wallpaper which eliminates the need for lightbulbs? Or willy wonka style lickable wallpaper? that would be just wonderful...alas its all just tasteful pastel colours...perhaps i'll just keep it as it as the moment...completely bare walls with random splodges of white paint and plaster all over the floor..all i have in their is a batterd old armchair and an acoustic guitar...and its FREEZING....all very ken loach..and all bluddy depressing...it suits the time of year.. ...by far the best thing about clearing out my room is finding all the books i used to read which have been under the bed for years...i can stop proper grown up reading for a while and enjoy 'the alchymists cat' again...and 'voyage of the dawn treader'..i'd forgotten how absolutelyfantasticallywonderful the chronicles of narnia were..who needs harry potter when you have reepicheep?...oh its dark already and its only 4.40..hmmmm..thank you for your time.. ta ta.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 17:11:32 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:11:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: it's nice to perform to an audience of naked people...would you direct that fan over here? thank you very much. Message-ID: hello. i broke somebody's nose today. but not intentionally, and not violently. well, i suppose you can't not violently break somebody's nose, but i wasn't being intentionally violent. anyway, i was walking into the bathroom and there was somebody on the other side of the door, and the door went straight into his face. there was blood everywhere and stuff, he was understanding and still addressed me as "mate", so i i haven't formed an enemy. which is always nice. i went to see bonnie prince billy on sunday night, which was great. it was a really small venue so it was a lot better, and he took requests, which was nice of him. i was going to make a request, but i couldn't decide which song i wanted to request so i just left it be. after seeing will oldham in person, i now think that he looks like a pirate. he has pirate shoes and a pirate's earing. there was a nice girl at the bonnie prince billy gig with pink hair and nice piercings (can piercings be nice?). we exchanged newspapers and phone numbers, so i'll hopefully see her piercings again. bonfire night was last night. i have a mixed reaction towards bonfire night...i like it but i don't. i like fireworks, but i don't like it when people set them off at 3 in the morning. i don't like being awoken by loud explosions...i just don't. i went to a bonfire last night, which was nice. it was good until some extraordinarily clever people turned up and decided it would be good to throw petrol-soaked rags on it. then it just went crazy and all the children left. including me. it's november already, which is weird. i know people probably say this every year but it has gone quickly. i can still remember things from last year in detail. the bad thing about this year is that it's going to be known for...that. ahh well. it's nice to see that the world is moving on a bit more. my local newspaper has stopped telling us how many terrorists once lived in manchester and have now gone back to the "door knobs stolen from local church" headlines. they weren't just any old door knobs. a pope once touched them. i really like the pope, i don't know why. i can't understand a word that he says but he does seem like a really nice guy. my english lesson got cancelled, so i came home early today, which meant that i got to see a bus driver i've never seen before. i know people shouldn't get excited about new bus drivers but i was. he's like the bus driver from the simpsons, otto. you when bus drivers drive past eachother they do that acknowledging raising of the hand thing? well this one presses his horn, and scares other drivers on the road...i laughed. i haven't got work to do for a while, so i can sleep...finally. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 18:14:40 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:14:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast gig? Message-ID: sorry if everyone already knows, but I hear from a semi-reliable source that there will be a gig in belfast on the 21st of december. neil? http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 18:58:13 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 19:58:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nothing hurts you like the pain of someone you love Message-ID: darlings, well, "nothing hurts you like the pain of someone you love". that is so true. oh. i'm in big pains today. i'm feeling awfully low. everyone's going on about love now. oh, i don't even want to think about it really. love always seems to disappoint me anyway. i've got a really hard time trusting people. it haven't always been like that. that's one thing that love has done. dammit. right. i don't really think i've got anything fun to say, so maybe i should just go and do something else. like... once again, eating lots of chocolate? it do help. really. but if i'll continue eating this much chocolate, i'll be dead fat in the end of the month. so, my ex is refusing to leave me alone. damn him. i believe it's thru with monica, and now he wants me back. i love him, i really do, i cant help it! and i'm like... the weakest. i won't ever be able to say no to him as i thought i would. i could always dream on though. the wrong girl... no. the wrong boy. definetly. love, rachel oj ps. astrid's very sweet. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From athenaofme at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 19:10:18 2001 From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 19:10:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: these thighs that synthesize Message-ID: its been a long, lonely time i've been away...doing list-dom things and people (obviously)...they don't call me the list-dom for nothing, so don't think i've just bee sitting back rearranging the leather and lace in my closet by color...no, lisa has been hard at work doing the things a list-dom does...boys, mostly...but causing a little muddle of trouble here and there as well... but so many new faces! sinister has become quite the colorful crowd, haven't we now?...very geometric, with solid shading...very art deco, but art deco is coming back around like bad karama... to update the rainbow of you: i've left college...all my professor were mid-sentence when i bolted leaving the lot of my work unfinished to run scantily clad in last spring semester's sunshine...i moved into a little 19th century rowhome just off west park that runs like a commune...all day it's people in and out, coming and going and strewn about at early hours on the wooden floors...peter (my new found sinister boy and not just flavor of the week- sorry brier and mr. burke) and i have to shut ourselves in my bedroom to keep from the constant cold that rushes in with every open and close of the front door...not that we mind being confined to such intimate quarters, but it does make clothes nessacary to tiptoe down the steps and into the kitchen for a cup of tea...pish... missed toy-ing with you all... but my chains are thoroughly polished and the whips are well oiled and waiting...step up to the proverbal plate... -listdomlisa ...peeking disheveled from beneath the blankets. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 19:21:41 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:21:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20011106192141.75189.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i'm blinded from reading all 200 sini-mails that were waiting in my mailbox this morning ... and i'm very sleepy, so no real responses, only a couple of vague slug-trails of observations. 1) autumn and crunchy leaves and being wrapped up in a coat and seeing your breath on the air, i think we're agreed that all these things rule. 2) guy fawkes night is probably great fun, until someone aims a firework the wrong way and burns a hole in your forehead/arse/jumper. and i should know. 3) i was in london at the weekend, and flew back from london city airport to dublin last night. as our plane climbed into the air, we could see loads of bonfires and fireworks going off underneath us, all over the city! i'd never seen anything like it. it was magical. 4) my and dirtyvicar's pet coffee and milkshake place, cafe soleil in soho, is gone! in its place is a horrible trendy yuppie cafe. boo. we were annoyed. 5) i bought a northern soul compilation in selectadisc. i hope it's good. it's called The In Crowd ("oh no, you didn't buy *that* load of spank, did you? any compilation would have been better than that one, for heaven's sake. surely the 'are you a complete sap? then buy this record' sticker should have given you a clue, etc" - a chorus of northern soul sini-experts) 6) london is GRATE, but it really gets under your fingernails. 'night all, rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." - Groucho Marx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iodowd at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 19:22:52 2001 From: iodowd at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rener?=) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:22:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: subject line! subject line! i'll give you subject line Message-ID: <20011106192252.22471.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i'm blinded from reading all 200 sini-mails that were waiting in my mailbox this morning ... and i'm very sleepy, so no real responses, only a couple of vague slug-trails of observations. 1) autumn and crunchy leaves and being wrapped up in a coat and seeing your breath on the air, i think we're agreed that all these things rule. 2) guy fawkes night is probably great fun, until someone aims a firework the wrong way and burns a hole in your forehead/arse/jumper. and i should know. 3) i was in london at the weekend, and flew back from london city airport to dublin last night. as our plane climbed into the air, we could see loads of bonfires and fireworks going off underneath us, all over the city! i'd never seen anything like it. it was magical. 4) my and dirtyvicar's pet coffee and milkshake place, cafe soleil in soho, is gone! in its place is a horrible trendy yuppie cafe. boo. we were annoyed. 5) i bought a northern soul compilation in selectadisc. i hope it's good. it's called The In Crowd ("oh no, you didn't buy *that* load of spank, did you? any compilation would have been better than that one, for heaven's sake. surely the 'are you a complete sap? then buy this record' sticker should have given you a clue, etc" - a chorus of northern soul sini-experts) 6) london is GRATE, but it really gets under your fingernails. 'night all, rener ===== "Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others." - Groucho Marx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From o-lowery at xxx.com Tue Nov 6 20:22:56 2001 From: o-lowery at xxx.com (owen lowery) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 20:22:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: two turntables and a microphone Message-ID: well hello my sinister chums im fresh out of the nursery though a few of you may remember me from days gone by when i was on the list. i had a penchant for silly nicknames stolen from terrible literature. my former self, the narrow wizard, is however, no more. it was nice being in the nursery, just reading posts and not being able to post anything back was cool. i didnt appreciate it so much first time round though, now however, i would recomend it to all the old hands at this game, it gives you a new perspective. there's been some talk of list crushes lately and i thought that id stick my oar into the debate 'cos the list crush is good fun and so needs no other justification for its existence. yeah so we might never get to meet our crushes, it doesn't matter really, as long as we have fun with them in whatever way. having said this id just like to add that in the old list crush system i was doing really well and my ego would appreciate it if that also happened under the new system. theres also been some talk of mix tape competitions and im all upset 'cos my name isn't popular enough to have a team associated with it. this is a damn shame 'cos it was my birthday on sunday (24 so i'll have to join kens club for people who dont qualify for under 20's or over 25's) and one of my mates gave me a set of record decks and a mixer (yes i do have some really cool friends) so i could actually do properly mixed mix tapes. well i could if it wasnt for the fact that i havent DJ'd professionally since 1996 and im a bit out of practice. i'll rephrase that, im a bit shit. oh time for an apology, Ola admitted to liking my old posts because of their cinnamon content, but as the wizard has been killed off ther'll be no more so sorry Ola. Typical of me to let a girl down just as she says she wants to meet a nice slim guy, DOH! well thats it for my ramblings today im off to lurk for a while hugs and shrugs owen so much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens (William Carlos Williams) http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 02:37:23 2001 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (Jim Taylor) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 02:37:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: indie football superstars & other old bollocks (*non B&S* london gig) Message-ID: I'm slightly confused to find myself actually posting to sinister. I suppose that's what comes of being ill for ages and actually having time to read digests, which rarely happens in my life. hello. i'm jim, i've been on a sinister for a while but obviously not properly. I do dip in and read bits, but volume stops me really managing any more than that. If anyone manages to change British work culture to having three day weekends i'd promise to read every post, and lots more besides. Fact is i am actually only working 3 days a week now, but at college 2, and supposed to be studying evenings (like now), and so have even better excuses for being busy than i used to. I'm not sure quite who out of the older pasty faced vegan geeks are still around, but its good to see so many new people. Being on sinister still feels an important thing, though when i turn up to picnics or B&S gigs or whatever i do have a sense of being a bit of a distant relative, seeing as i don't manage to follow what's going on fundamentally with the list. Having had some top times and met some loverly folks, it still does feel like a good family to be part of, and so i shall carry on randomly-skim-lurking if its alright with you lot. I'm in london UK btw, erm, and since martin robinson always commented on my turning up to sinster gatherings in (favourite) purple trousers, when i needed a temporary email address in a hurry i got this one, and haven't managed to lose it since. There's a number of things i've read recently, but seeing as i don't have much to contribute towards those things, i'll stick to what was the original reason to start this post a week or two back: I'm also slightly confused about the origins of the indie superstar team thing, but as Mr Carsmile ('props' {as i believe is the vernacular of the kidz} to him + all sinister kids who did londonindieusa) has already suggested, my dreamteam(s) have already manifested, and defeated notable indie celeb - teams such as (oh arse the archives don't work at the mo do they). well numerous indie bands were defeated on the hallowed tarmac of camber sands @ pontins over a couple of years, and heck calumn even recruited us the man Murdoch .....{oh, what happy hazy memories they are} well i've been promising for about two years to scan in a polaroid a bizarre young woman who was stalking my ex-flatmate (scary actual truth) took of most of our victorious team from ATPs 2000. I'm still promising. I was going to ask what happened to other photographic evidence of our finest footy hour? ( beyond the crappy that one (made crappy by me wandering off that Carsmile kindly linked)) thinking that can't be the only one taken just after we climbed those long steps to collect our bag of stella from Her Majesty can it? and indeed, a minimal amount of meandering around our beloved archivey piccieplace and i came over all gooey to find http://www.missprint.org/sinister/things/ATPSinisterFC.html. Bless. Us AND stuart Murdoch. Its on my noticeboard already :) I also found these fun accounts recently: (we WERE famous!) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200005/msg00022.html http://www.rockfeedback.com/tomorrowspartiesintro.htm http://www.playlouder.com/feature/035alltomorrowsparties/1.html So there, that is the dreamteam. done & dusted in my book. Similarly the narrowly defeated stalwarts from ?'99 (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/SinisterLooperteam1.html So my top geezers are: Rozza Rich Ali 'Pele' Cook Vince 'whereishenowmartin?' Rory http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Rory.html Calumn (ourpixielikemascotwithourtrophyonhisheadinmypolaroid) Dr.Sean Trousers (sadlyabsentfromthepolaroidforourvictoriousyear)http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Trousers.html & from our year of so near and yet so far: mymatedamon Mark Casserole http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/MarkC2.html Simonrorysmate USben http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Benjamin.html honourable mentions to supersub popkins http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/TimFootie.html whose link also brings in cheerleader #3 pa Moore, ably accompanied by carsmile, starry and the like. i suppose this treacherous b'strd may have made it if he didn't have a habit of buggering off to play for the opposition or staying in bed and missing our finest hour. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/MartinR.html nice bloke (though not sure why he's naked in the photo). & since i distinctly remember talk of a proper goalie when Sinsiterfitba almost existed, i think there's the makings of worldbeaters there. They were really rather exciting footy matches at Camber Sands, right down to when i tried to let the opposition win by rolling the ball out to the their star striker and managing to get in the way of the shot somehow. I suppose i'm allowed to love Scmeichel now he pays for my beloved villa. The shouting thing definitely works for your own confidence. THAT was the bit i was good at :) I'd never won a lot at footy really, ATPs red plastic seaside bucket trophy, proudly adds to memories of the day the city uni library team shocked all comers and won the inaugural millennium trophy. And the london buddhist centre won the inter-buddhist centre 5-a-side competition this year. Hurrah! (i don't think i was supposed to be quite as competitive as i was, ho-hum) Well that's about as good as it gets form me, so i'll go back to another year or two of lurking. --------%snip%----------- well since i typed that i got some very sad news. the band whose name we borrowed (Slot Jockey) to gatecrash and thrash all comers to win the 'celebrity' (ahem) 5-a-side a couple of years back @ All Tomorrows Parties, certainly marking the Sinister List's finest football hour, [bear with me non-footy fans this is about music] were the bearers of said sad news. well for all those that wondered who the hell it was we pretended to be, i once described them in print (when i seemed to have an ability to describe music) as: SLOT JOCKEY "Great songs, great angles, different reasons, appreciation of space and silence" (Organ). The mighty Slot Jockey are described by the NME as "a seething lump of post rock sugar... fireworks every time" and "a see-saw between sulky interludes and brilliantly pissed off sonic crunchings". They see themselves as being "influenced by the New York noise of Pavement and Sonic Youth, and the New York melody of Neil Diamond". With their own refreshingly distinct very British slant - on singles such as their now rare debut 7" 'Sister Root' (Double Plus Records) - Slot Jockey ooze taut, skewed tunefulness and loud/quiet/LOUD dynamism, displaying a startling ability to spew out (barbed) hook laden nuggets of friction noise with apparent ease. Well due to emigration to Australia, what was to be an *album launch*, has very sadly turned in to a final gig, about which i'm pretty gutted. I thought one or two might be interested, in the last ever chance to see them. You have been warned. I'll buy you an onion bhaji if you think they're shite. (hey i'm not rich). 8.15pm (EIGHT BLOODY FIFTEEN (worst slot i've ever sodding known them to have)) monarch/barfly (chalk farm road) this saturday 10th Nov. (leaves time to get to upstairs of garage to see tender trap :-) it'll be a bit of a wake i guess. hopefully not too much of a whimper at that time. I'm gutted that a bunch of top people i only got to know cus i loved the band, are splitting up. maybe i'm naive at expecting bands to get a certain amount of recognition, but bloody hell, they deserved a notch or two more. well its your last chance, you've been warned. (not the other) jim P.S. My aunty's parrot (observed reciting poetry long ago) was telling me of a new dance they are doing in the Tyrol Region, called the Alpine Foxtrot. Sound familiar to anyone? you young whippersnappers you . sorry if i've missed things btw/made any faux pas. content: i quite like belle & sebastian you know. + i like the fact list mummies work so f'in hard for this to exist. ________________________________________________________________________ Sunday 18 November National Demonstration Against the War - London Called by Stop the War Coalition. Assemble 12 noon, Hyde Park. ________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eld9 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 7 04:23:04 2001 From: eld9 at xxx.uk (Liz Dawson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:23:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'd like to leave, but I forget which door I came through....... Message-ID: <00ea01c16743$e5be2c80$3700020a@aber.ac.uk> Hi Sinisterines, I suppose some would refer to me as a lurker, having been on the list for quite a while now, but only posting once so far. For those of you who missed my last post, my name is Liz, and I'm at uni in Aberystwyth at the moment, currently trying not to fail my degree in geography. I'm living in a student house with 6 other girls, which can get really bitchy sometimes, especially when one of them pulls a bloke, or is dumped by said bloke, or someone nicks their milk, or breathes in their general direction.... humph! I do my best to ignore them, but when they start gossiping in the kitchen, or play celine dion at full volume, it gets a bit tiresome.... I guess you'd call this post as a bit of a rant, but it's just the way I'm feeling at the moment. Hopefully it's a passing craze... then again if I do it for long enough maybe moping and grumbling will be seen as cool and everyone will want to be like me...but there's probably as much chance as Stuart Murdoch coming to my uni to perform an acoustic set in the union, before coming back to my house for a cup of tea and a natter... but a girl can dream! Also I've been getting hassle from one of my friends recently, as he's started scrounging off me and my other friend for booze, fags and food for days on end now, whilst complaining that he's got no money and a sore leg. My friend and I are at our wits end with him, and are about two shades away from pointing out a few home truths. Luckily he's going home this weekend for his birthday, and will be able to sort his head out, but if he's the same when he gets back, then he's going to get a massive shock from us. Something that I'm not looking forward to at all... Sorry for the moan, I promise my next post will be better, Take care, Liz x "it is only that which cannot be expressed otherwise that is worth expressing in music" (Frederick Delius, English Composer 1920) "Only in our dreams are we free. The rest of the time we need wages" (Terry Pratchett, British fantasy writer, 1988) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wookie at xxx.ie Wed Nov 7 08:53:42 2001 From: wookie at xxx.ie (Seamus Harte) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:53:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: May only happiness come through your door Message-ID: <003b01c16769$d85d3a60$efa2a5c2@kmgaughan> hello again sinisters Will Salt touched on surrealism, no actually Will Salt grabbed surrealism and ran with it: >"I could write someone else's autobiography, I suppose." Remember this next time you meet him kids, he wants your brain! or something. His 'My Pictorial Life' thing (he should of course call it 'My So-Called Pictorial Life') reminded me of an idea put into my head by an ex-girlfriend, that we should live our lives as if it was gonna all be turned into a future biopic - of course it was all a pass-the-time type game, but it was fun finding stupid symbolism and metaphors in everything, and worrying about location. Even to the extent of when she told me she was getting back with her ex, all I could think of, looking round and thinking, was "why here?" Ugly looking college canteen, and they'll never let me film this crap here anyway! Five minutes later, and we were in a idyllic wooded area, sitting on a stone bridge, laughing our asses off. I ended up sleeping on her couch for 6 weeks after that. Surreal maybe. Weirder still, I think my very first attempt to woe her was with loveheart sweets too, but she just ate them one after another, there was a whole bowl of them in front of us at a party, I must of at least given her six [cutie pie]'s and four [marry me]'s. So I wouldn't give up yet Johnjohn. Rusdie's 'Haroun and the Sea of Stories' is supposed to be the modern 'Alice in Wonderland'. Well it made me smile a lot anyway. Whatever happened Peter Miller's "reporting back" on Salman Rusdie's 'The Ground Beneath Her Feet'? (his rock'n'roll novel) Half a year later, according to the archives,and nothing, and the Pinefox even got a copy too. Maybe there's gonna be an extensive collaborative post focusing on untangling the parallel worldly bands and songs in the book. (you'd have to read it really) I better tell the sinister massive of ex-of-this-parish Joss Moorkens and his beautiful band Joan Of Arse being interviewed on Ireland's (nah the world's) premier indie video tv program 'no disco'. Is this "reporting back" I wonder? The weird thing about was that it was on at 11:30 on Halloween night. So flick through the channels and you get 'The Shining', 'Friday the 13th', 'Bride Of Chucky' and then JOA. Anyway it was a good interview (how do review an interview? help!), I probably should of taped it, out of the possible interest to all those list crush voters he had back in 1999! Anyway more important than all that is the quality of the music, there's a beautiful mp3 to download from their website: http://www.thumped.com/JOA/ go do it! Other recommendations: the last Sigur Ros video (the football game one) is/was the single greatest piece of cinema I've seen since I last posted - that'll be two years then. ps. I hope I might be doing my Christmas shopping in Belfast this year! pps. I don't think anyone's mentioned Stevie Jackson's 'the List' article that been up on the official b&s site for some time now. Seamus. _______________________________________________________________ The last sentence of the red notebook reads: 'What will happen when there are no more pages in the red notebook?' +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s.arnot at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 11:02:33 2001 From: s.arnot at xxx.com (s.arnot at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:02:33 GMT Subject: Sinister: content! Message-ID: <20011107110125.ZDKJ17234.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> hey! cdnow.com are taking advance orders on 'Storytelling' and have it slated for a 2001 release. how cool is that? piddlemonkey (rachel griddlemonkey) V!I!V!A! R!A!C!H!E!L!S! lo-fi songs are GRATE -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Wed Nov 7 11:48:38 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:48:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belfast Gig Message-ID: <011001c16782$2483a060$1604fd3e@neil> (Whistles) Christ, you lot are sharp. Check the website on friday morning. It may well confirm what you already know. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.lynch at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 15:27:54 2001 From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Lynch) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 07:27:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: belfast gig? Message-ID: I got this from a Frames mailing list... =========== from the east coast its back home to a couple of other dates to put in the diary in ireland........ d) both charitable functions - dec 21st belfast, i think it was the mandela hall, supporting belle and sebastian at an nspcc toys for christmas gig. i beleive the idea is that all the money that gets taken on the night gets taken out to a large toy emporium on the following day by the bands and a pile of toys are bought for kids in need for christmas - well worth supporting by the sound of it..... ============== Exciting, no? Will you all come to Ireland for Christmas? Gr�inne. Short e-mail, but look - CONTENT! -- On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:14:40 philip boucher wrote: >sorry if everyone already knows, but I hear from a semi-reliable source that >there will be a gig in belfast on the 21st of december. > >neil? > >http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 16:22:49 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:22:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: wino's what the bouncer loathes Message-ID: I was relying on the usual barrage of sinister e-mails to rescue me from Office Boredom Hell, but I waited for 2 hours (yes, I got so bored I was counting the hours) and nope, not a single mail with filthy jokes to lighten up my day. So I've taken matters into my own hands, I'm whipping one up myself to relief the frustration. So, yay, Belfast gig.. But Hey! Why aren't you playing Milton Keynes? Grr fucking hate you all etc... Joking of course, however B&S doing a stadium gig in my home town at the national bowl with all fireworks and everything.. cor. Can Red Bull Dozers be support? Saying that, the RBD had a band practice the other day and due to having no guitars that are able to hold tune for more than 5 minutes it went badly wrong and everything sounded arse... anyone care to donate musical equipment to them? Nothing fancy.. a �1500 PRS guitar will do.. oh and a full size church organ would be nice. I tried to pull a girl by giving her a love heart too, I failed.. maybe I shouldn't have used that one that says "mobile phone" on it... Well I was hoping she would understand the message behind that, but she didn't. Neither did I. There should be a love heart that says "nice arse" or "get yer tits out", on it. That would've worked. I just realised that I have been extremely potty mouthed lately, I do apologise, but my language gets foul when I don't receive loads of e-mails from girls. That wasn't a hint, by the way, in case you were wondering. It was an order. ;-) Better stop now so you have a chance to reply me before it gets dark. Replies from girls and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Oooh look.. isn't your reply button pretty? I wonder what would happen if you pressed it? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 19:04:44 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: how to get by getting by by getting got by. Message-ID: <20011107190444.651.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> ROBERT DONLAN said 'Dont give up on chasing girls, cos soon you will be too old to chase girls. Once you hit 20 you find yourself becoming too sensible to chase.'. and here's me just considering starting... tell me it's never too late. well. two in two. too. and the real 'reason'? I mentioned having a critique when I posted last. yesterday. I was awake for forty seven hours beforehand. I turned up at a quarter to one. loaded with drawings and all. looking like I'd done a lot of work. I'm sure. perhaps even looking a bit like an architect. then I discovered the criticising had begun at nine a.m. and was scheduled to end at one p.m.. I caught the tail-end of the last person in my group. and I didn't get criticised. except about my time-keeping. so. I was there. still with my coat on. still with my bag on my back. still with my rolls of drawings in hand. under arm. and an inane [I'm sure], sleep-deprived, not-actually-concerned-anymore look on my face. with appropriate perspiration. I sat down by one of my tutors. the one with the glasses. the one whose eyes seem like holes. and I smiled at him. and told him I wasn't sure where I was. and that it was unfortunate. and that I wouldn't be submitting. and he said something about 'always excuses'. and I nodded. I'm surprised he didn't say 'always nodding'. then he said we should meet next week. to...sort it out. I went back to my flat. and after fifty waking hours. I managed only ten asleep. and woke again in the early hours of the morning unable to sleep. I do it to myself. and I can't figure out why. I have to concoct a believable excuse for tuesday. what can I say? the computers in the department are no good? I've been bothered by factors outwith my influence? I got new shoes and they hurt my ankles? elsewhere in my life. things are pretty okay. maybe that's my problem; I have elsewhere in my life. perhaps I should git devoted. or something. tsk. bye-bye, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 23:15:45 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Housemates for Dummies Message-ID: <3023915.1005174945211.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> What with Sinisters and Sinisterettes currently undergoing some kind of crazy exchange program and indulging in some frantic flat-finding, house-sharing, 'that's MY toothbrush, you skanky bitch' settling-in phase and the subsequent 'My flatmate is a serial killer/stripper/fire-eater in their spare time and doesn't do the washing up' revelations, I'm left with no choice but to roll my eyes and think 'You think that's bad. You know NOTHING!' It's true that some people can read auras and some people can tell those who indulge in lewd acts involving rodents (or dead pop icons), but I had a loonydar. Indeed I had the pleasure of sharing houses with some of the scariest, irrational, downright wrong individuals on the great worldly accommodation list. Where do I start? Yiannis the trumpet-playing Greek is as good a place as any. This man, situated in the room above me in Uni halls played incessantly. I wouldn't have minded really except that after a year of tootling and parping, he was as shite as when he had moved in. My musical madman magnet didn't end there; having moved into a house in Bradford with a soon-to-be-convicted stalker (that's another story) I was subjected to Jean-Michel Jarre's poor pit-worn cousin who lived in the house opposite mine. Not only did he play his one-step-up-from-a-Bontempi right in front of his bedroom window, but he enjoyed doing so shirtless. It was like watching a middle-aged pigeon strangling a piano. Not to be outdone, I moved in with some friends all of whom listened to dance music into the wee hours. It even became too much for the local crackhead who insisted on breaking into our house eight times in an attemept to get rid of the offending CD/stereo system. I like to think he would have taken the whole lot down to the skip. When I moved to London, I ended up sharing a house with a couple of trainee teachers. One must have followed me from the previous place, and the other insisted on shagging her boyfriend at X-treme volume for many hours through the night. I was eventually asked to leave after I broke an 'antique mirror' (read 'Old piece of shitty glass propped up on the bog') so I moved in with a newly-married 30-something woman. Success! I thought. The fact that she kept the polythene covering on the three-piece suite, left her smalls soaking in a bucket of concentrated bleach and washed herself with Dettol should have alerted me to her psycho status. She would also spend so long each weekend cooking chicken and rice that the kitchen smelt as if the local battery farm had committed suicide by mass incineration in a paddy field. Fortunately she decided to return to the US (where I'm sure bleach is cheaper and far kinder on the skin) and I was forced to move yet again. This time into a basement - but I did not hear the warning bells! - room owned by a middle aged woman who lived with her young kid. My room was the local hang-out for slugs which was fine, because it was the only company I was allowed. The old troll gave me my notice after 2 days because I had invited my then-boyfriend over for 2 nights in a row. Shame on me. So I moved into a house with 8 people - some students and some workers. Bingo! Life was fine for 6 months aside from a nightly repertoire of arias from the Italian across the road, until I had a run-in with a flatmate's fist. It's a long story but fuck it, I was right and she was wrong. Consequently after a battle with the landlady to release me from my newly-renewed lease so as I could save face (well, mine preferably...from another black eye) I moved into a lovely flat with an ex-flatmate. She turned out to be a born-again Christian bulimic (mutually exclusive I'm assured) who used to get up at 5.30am to go for a jog, and with the final line she uttered to me was 'I didn't realise my being sick put you off your food', I bowed out. Since then my only flatmates have been a few silverfish in a bathroom in Birmingham and the clanging sounds of Hare Krishna tambourines. So, I say to you who tut when a dirty spoon is left on the draining board, think yourselves lucky. Love you all (as long as you clean up after yourselves) VB xxx www.vodkabird.org +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Wed Nov 7 23:41:11 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 23:41:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast gig +++++ Message-ID: hello again... before you go and buy boat tickets to belfast in a frantic rush (like I very nearly did..) I hear there may be one in brixton academy, my guess is the 18th or 17th. also, something for beat patrol in glasgow or something? ~cant wait till friday... love philip http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From felineapollo at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 01:12:26 2001 From: felineapollo at xxx.com (Andre Alessi) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 01:12:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Losing Hope, an excerpt from a work in progress, not to mention list abuse... Message-ID: Heya folks, Cunning Andre here. I'm using my schneaky second email addy because I wanted to try something a little different. As some of you know, I'm in the middle of writing my Great New Zealand Novel, called "Losing Hope". Below is a rough draft of the first chapter, intended for your reading pleasure (or annoyance, depending on how much you dislike complex sentence structures.) Feel free to offer criticism (or insults) via email, either through this addy or my Uni one ( aale002 at ec.auckland.ac.nz ) As for complaints that this isn't really B&S content-well, you're right, in a sense. BUT, I should point out that the narrator, while being loosely based upon myself, has been significantly informed by my listening of Tigermilk, to the point of almost _being_ Sebastian (maybe Sturan should sue for infringement? :) ) Additionally, every word has been writen to the strains of B&S, which may quite possibly account for the more whimsical, dare I say "twee", characteristics of the piece. (Apologies in advance for the crappy layout, and the lack of italics, which would make some of the sentences make a little more sense than they otherwise do.) Chapter One An absence is not a thing to share your bed with. As has often been pointed out, in crass pop songs and by the sly grins of drunkards, absences do not keep you warm at night. But there is only so much room in one bed (even a super deluxe king-size bed bought as the result of some vague, atemporal anticipation), and absences are difficult things to push away. They cling to you. And what person in their right mind would try and compete with something that isn�t there for space in a bed with someone who doesn�t realise that both they and the bed they sleep in are haunted by an emptiness? Well, I don�t know if they were in their right minds, but this story is a seemingly misguided attempt to answer that question. (Rhetorical questions have always bugged the fuck out of me. If you ask a question, expect an answer.) Perhaps it�s also a kind of confession, I guess, an attempt at a peculiarly mundane redemption; but don�t expect juicy revelations or cringe-inducing, self-indulgent self-examination, because (and this is a secret storytellers don�t want you to know, so pay attention) it�s all made up. Mostly. And the bits that aren�t are mine to own, not yours. Every story has to be about something, and this story is about Hope. Not the idea, but the person. Well, maybe it�s not about her but about her absence. So maybe it is about Hope the Idea. Or maybe it�s not even about Hope the Idea, but about me. Or about my friends and how crazy they all are. Or about the Big Questions: Life, Love, Lust, Longing, Loss, The Meaning Of It All (I couldn�t think of another L word, but �All� has two l�s, so that counts), or� Well, it�s about something, I�m sure of it. I just don�t know what. I guess we�ll find out together. Anyways, Hope. A name portending great things. An epic name, almost. Does that make me the hero? The only hero I�ve ever identified with was Odysseus, in the time before the Battle of Troy. He really was quite happy just to stay at home with Penelope and Telemachus and plough the beach, but those crazy Greeks had other ideas. Yet even when he found himself far from familiar lands, fighting for a cause he didn�t much care for, all he wanted was to go home. Home. There�s another magic word. Maybe that�s what this story�s about. It�s certainly not about the hero �getting the girl� (whatever that might mean.) I met Hope at the end of my teenage years. She was working as a daytime duty manager in a franchise bookstore, a dead-end job for English graduates and other oppressed minorities. I had signed on as a counterperson as a way of answering my mother�s silent, nagging complacence and my own steadfast conviction that I was destined for great things someday. I�d already been working there for a month before we met. The most remarkable moments of your life seldom herald themselves before the fact, yet even now, six years later, the moment I saw Hope remains burned into the interior of my skull in every minute, mundane detail: the doorway to the tiny storeroom swinging open (to the left); the light bulb inside dark and unrevealing; the white of her blouse and the black of her skirt clinically leeching the tangibility of pale skin and red hair as she stooped to pick up a box of microwave cookery books; her smile and eyes calling me to respond; the spiky presence of Doug, the store manager, to the right of the door as his voice initiated an introduction to destiny� It should go without saying that when Hope and I first met, there was no �spark�, no chemistry. I wasn�t much of a lad at that point in my life, still adjusting to the dislocation from small town New Zealand to Auckland�s buzz, unsure of myself around women that hadn�t seen me hairless and naked; while she was recovering from the abrupt disintegration of a quiet but stable relationship. We were workmates, often the only two staff members on during the days. We�d also work many of the public holidays together, as we both lived within easy walking distance of the store, and had no social lives. Such folk are the prey of the rosters of store managers. Our work was seldom strenuous-a suburban bookstore makes its money after five p.m., not during the day. In the fast-paced rat-race that is low-paid franchise management however, that fact brings a pressure of its own. Her superiors would often remind Hope that her shifts were not archetypal examples of efficiency and profit, and she would pass such messages on to me (and whomever else might be working) in the form of half-hearted threats and breathed vulgarities. (Perhaps now is a good time to mention that, for all Hope�s delicacy in appearance and demeanour, she could and did swear like a sailor. Mostly around me, apparently, although I�m sure that�s just a coincidence.) The days passed slowly, as they do when you�re waiting for nothing in particular. Hope was, like most in the industry, entirely uninterested in reading, meaning that for us, interacting with customers was at best a diversion from putting those little price stickers on the backs of newly-received books. And at worst? Well, the �service� industry would be filled with cheerful, polite, committed, creative people if not for the prevalence of a certain type of customer we like to refer to, obliquely, as �the problem customer.� �Excuse me, Miss, but I was in here the other day, and I bought this book�� (displays the latest �Oprah�s Book Club� emotional paperweight.) �Yes?� replies Hope, �Something wrong with it?� �Well, yes, in a manner of speaking. You see, I asked you, and I distinctly remembered asking you, for a book that I would enjoy, and you recommended this�� (shakes book like a cheap Taiwanese snowglobe, waits for significance of statement to settle upon the poor serving girl.) Hope raises her right eyebrow dangerously. �You didn�t like it?� �Ermm�� (blushes deeply, swallows.) �I�m sorry, sir, but it�s not exactly store policy to offer refunds or exchanges after you�ve already read the book�� �Look, this book has far too much sex in it! Sex everywhere! And swearing all over the place. Felt like I was reading Playboy or whatever. Hardly appropriate for a widower my age, is it? Couldn�t finish the damn thing, I was so embarrassed!� (rocks back and forth on heels, snorts like a horse with pepper up its nose.) �Ah, I see. Well, sir, I�m afraid that there really isn�t anything I can do about that�� says Hope, fighting back a grin. �You damn well better do something, missy! I paid good money for this trash, I solicited a service from you, and you misled me! I want my money back!� �I�m sorry, sir, but that�s not really an option�� �Isn�t it, now? Well, where�s your manager? Just bring your boss out here, and we�ll see exactly what can be done about this!� �The store manager won�t be in �til tomorrow night. But he�ll just tell you the same thing I have�� �Nonsense! I�ve been a loyal customer of your store for three years! Never had a problem like this before. He�ll sort things out. Sort you out too, missy! What�s your name?� At this, Hope simply turns and walks through the �Staff Only� door at the back of the shop. Problem Customer, walking stick and counter preventing pursuit, turns to me. �What�s her name?� �Umm, not sure, let me think�� �Don�t give me that! What�s her name? She needs to be taken down a peg! Reported, that�s what.� �Sorry, I�ve only just started here. Don�t know her name yet.� �Really? Well, what�s your name then?� �Salvatore. Sal. Sal Dell�Vecchio.� �Sal. Hmph. Figures. Bloody wogs and women ruining things...well, Sal, just you tell that little missy that I fully intend to report this to her boss! Get her fired! Just what she deserves. And wouldn�t be surprised if you get a right talking-to from your boss as well! Don�t know her name! Hmph.� (wanders off out the door, still muttering.) �You okay?� �He�s gone? Yeah, I�m okay. Prick.� �Arseholes like that get on my wick, too. You did the right thing, walking away. Doug�ll say the same thing when he calls back. If he calls back, which I doubt.� �Shit. He sounded like he really was going to make a complaint?� �I don�t think it�ll happen. What�s he going to say? That you wouldn�t refund a dirty old man�s money after he�d gotten his rocks off?� Hope�s laugh is the first thing you really notice about her. Before she laughs, she seems somehow ephemeral, forgettable. But as soon as you hear that tinkle of silver bells, she suddenly bursts into your awareness, like sunshine through a cloudwrack. �That�s probably right. Bastard couldn�t keep his eyes off me.� �I didn�t give him your name, anyway. Gave him mine, though. Wasn�t thinking.� �I don�t think it�ll matter. Like you say, Doug�s probably going to be on my side with this. But it�s just one more thing to hold over my head at the next meeting. Fuck. I hate this shit. I really, really do.� So, when did I fall for Hope? Honestly, even now, I don�t know. I know that she was, and remains, a very beautiful woman. That she was petite helped matters (I have always had a thing for tiny women), as did her air of mischievous, elegant otherworldliness that bespoke of nothing so much as a slightly randy pixie. Rather predictably, perhaps, I dubbed her �Tinkerbell� in response to her (presumably pejorative) nickname for me, �Peter Pan�; and to me, Tinkerbell she remains. I do remember a day, sometime between Christmas and New Year�s, a day of no particular significance in itself, when golden sunlight slanted down through a dirty window housing a promo for the latest Barbara Cartland to set her aflame (Hope, that is, not Barbara Cartland), for what seemed like a thousand years, but was probably more like thirteen seconds, as she stretched up to tear down some green tinsel from the display; moving briskly, her burning hair tied up; eyes the colour of the late afternoon sky narrowing upon her goal; lips pouting slightly in determination; skin glowing like molten silver; the susurrus of the traffic outside lilting like a choir of angels; breath catching fire in my lungs; the world around her gradually fading to an inconsequentiality, leaving me ever more distant from her; and the strange, inescapable intuition that I was in way over my head. �In� what? In love? No. Not then. Not yet. On a night about three weeks later, I couldn�t sleep, and I wasn�t sure why. I�d been avoiding caffeine and sugar all week (I�m excitable at the best of times, but add stimulants to the mix and I start terrifying small children with excessive pupil dilation), yet I felt as though I�d just mainlined half a kilo of arabica. At this time, Max TV was still subverting Auckland�s musical tastes, so I flicked on the idiot box, hoping for a chance to indulge in what is perhaps my only unforgivable vice: DIY-karaoke. I like to think that I�m a fairly rational, sceptical person. Many of my friends consider me almost too rational. But I have a few odd beliefs, and one of them is that, every now and again, when you least expect it, something will happen to you that is both entirely coincidental and profoundly meaningful. I don�t know if we just construct the meaning of these events out of thin air, or if there really is some sort of order and purpose to what happens at times like these. What I do know is that many of us, myself included, perceive these �omens� in the world around us, and make life-changing decisions based upon them. It�s hard to talk about these things without sounding like an utter fruitcake. What makes it even worse is that the particular �omen� I feel I witnessed that night seems so�pop-cultural, so postmodern. Two songs by New Zealand artists I was particularly fond of at the time played, one after the other. First �Prove You Wrong� by Second Child, then Bic Runga�s �Bursting Through�, both songs about needing someone who wasn�t there, and being dazzled by the beauty of the things that that made you feel. Tacky? Tawdry? Mundane? Yup, all that and more. Specifically, the �more� was a realisation that the way I felt about Hope wasn�t just a transitory attraction, but something I wanted to pursue. When I say �pursue�, I don�t mean �stalk.� Whatever it was I was feeling, it was less about Hope than it was about the feelings she stirred within me, at least at first. We often think back to our young adulthood as a time of obsessional desires with random individuals. What we forget is that it is also the time we first learn of the extraordinary pleasure that comes from simply feeling something, anything. To be suddenly aware of the ability to experience an emotion so overwhelming it threatens your very sense of identity is one of those rare moments you can pinpoint in your past to say, �I grew up a little that day.� To learn that you might want to feel so strongly about another person is a surprise in itself. And no one was as surprised as me-there I was, a twenty-year-old university dropout, still living at home, faced abruptly with the realisation that my life would never be the same again, and that I would never want it to be. What to do in such a situation? How to respond to the emotional equivalent of the Kraken, rising unbidden from the deeps of my soul? Such a dark and doubtful presentiment of longing carries with it its own demand for action, for one to do what must be done, regardless the consequences. Only one thing to do, of course. I wrote her a hopeless, desperate letter demanding her acquiescence to the demons of my need, which I then slipped to her in a plain brown envelope, on the pretext that it was a late Christmas card. Right-o, that's all, Cunning Andre ________________________________ Irony is killing our generation. Freaky kitties do my head in: http://www.konstructiv.net/kitty_02.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 05:53:13 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:53:13 -0600 Subject: Sinister: what will you do when your suntan is fading.... Message-ID: <78F26AFB15F09B744B76895FD1947B1D@chinacat81.wildmail.com> stopped at a red light, i watched as a group of schoolchildren ruthlessly harassed a poor crossing-guard just trying to do his job. there was a whole swarm of them...little girls in knee-socks tugging on his bright orange vest, boys jumping up and pulling his cap down over his eyes...and he couldn't very well fight back. he just waved his arms, slowly, so as not to injure one of the little monsters. this one attempt at maintaining his dignity only made him look all the more ridiculous, like a great orange teddybear waving mechanically from a shop window at christmastime. one especially pretty little girl seemed to be the prime instigator, standing off to the side, pointing and shouting and laughing as her shiny ponytail whipped around her face. she reminded me of a horrid little girl from elementary school, a girl called stephanie who once blamed me when it was discovered that an anonymous mittened finger had printed "stephanie is a whore" in the frost on the classroom window. i hadn't done it, but after finding the word in the dictionary during the lunch break, i secretly wished that i had. tonight it seemed that the sun, instead of sinking slowly in the west, was rudely snuffed out by a damp towel. the fog was heavy and smelled like a cold car on a winter morning. i drove through a park, and all i could see were scattered splotches of soft yellow light from the lampposts. breaking through a wave of grey, i saw a large ball of orange and purple, long blue beams floating out the windows of an old stone building the firefighters use for practice. i couldn't see the building at all. a long time ago, i sat on the little gravel path which circles that building, watching fireworks and absentmindedly braiding the tassels on the soft flannel blanket i shared with a boy i barely knew. we were seventeen, i guess. he bought me cotton candy and i didn't have the heart to tell him how i feel about cotton candy..i tried to eat it. i realized tonight that i hadn't really noticed the stone building since that night with the fireworks. i drove past slowly and stared at the fire blazing just where we had been sitting and, for a moment, i thought it was summer. the boy...i saw him at a wedding in july. for the first time in...well, three years, i guess. all the girls were talking about this gorgeous boy at the bar, so i looked. and i realized who he was...i took my glass of champagne out onto the terrace and slowly smoked a cigarette and tossed little bits of food to the flamingos and hoped he hadn't seen me. it was hopeless...he found me. he's nearly finished pre-med now, and he looks like someone on the cover of a magazine. and then there was me, pink with champagne, sitting alone with the flamingos and stomping out a cigarette with my clumsy black heel. dropped out of two universities. working in a clothing shop. passing my time by writing saccharine stories nobody will ever read. probably. he made me dance...four minutes, maybe five, spent awkwardly close to a boy who'd told everyone i'd broken his heart. when we were seventeen. i looked at the fire for a few minutes and thought about this, then i drove to the tiny church where my parents spend their sunday mornings, and i sat down at the piano. the members of the men's choir filed in lazily and called me "miss kirsten" and said things like "haven't seen you around here in awhile." i didn't know what to say to that. i waved. the director handed me some music and apologized for the short notice, and i said i thought i could manage well enough. so i played and they sang and my father's crystalline tenor never wavered, and i looked over and he was smiling at me. i guess i must have been reading the music okay. either that, or he was just happy to see me in a church. whatever the case, i sort of smiled back. i'm not as easily amused as i could be. i'm more easily baffled than i should be. strangers have called me "smiley." friends have called me "serious." i never call anyone, but once in awhile it's nice to hear the phone ring. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 07:38:38 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 07:38:38 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello. I have to be at work at 7a.m. I don't like the thought of that. I especially won't like the thought of that when I'm wiping the dew off of my cadi's windshield with a dirty towel...I should go to bed. But I won't, just yet. I loved the VodkaBird's post about housemates. When I first moved away from home I lived in the dining room of a kondo/house. I thought it would be a great experience, you know kind of like a "suffering for art" sort of thing. Well, it got old quick. Three walls and a curtian next to a kitchen didn't cut it for me, I lived like that for 6 months. It only got frustrating a couple of days a week, though it was a blessing to have a room. My housemates were no treat at the time either. One was a hardcore Mormon girl who had to pray for me for about a half hour after I said some...well...not so mormon things one morning. The other was on too many medications to name, and was pretty much the bane of my existence for a number of months...ah...so nostalgic. We all moved out but we all went to school together. We graduated and then the mormon girl went to BYU (brigham young university) in Utah this summer and she discovered it was NOT what she wanted and has sort of bloomed a little bit since then. I think the other girl just replaced her anti-depresants with pot so...whatever. It usually turns out to be all okay in the end. I had some great roomates and a great house for a year after that, so, like VodkaBird said, it could be worse. I'll say hello to the SoCal sini kids that are hanging out on friday. Sorry I couldn't be there. I'd really like to hear the new songs, does anyone have a link or an mp3 I could maybe uh...borrow? man...I'm tired. have a good one everyone. Oh and I'd also like to say that I really look forward to everyone's post. It's such a great thing going on here.... take care, tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Nov 8 08:58:51 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:58:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: belfast gig +++++ Message-ID: <002701c16833$9789dd20$9684fc3e@neil> Easy there Philip, I don't know who your source is (although the Brixton rumour might lead me closer to guessing). You were on the ball with the Belfast gig, but there ain't nothing happening in London. I can also say that "Beat Patrol" doesn't exist anymore, so the chances of doing something for them in Glasgow are pretty slim. Just keeping you straight, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 13:28:24 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:28:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I don't know about you, but its usually the sbject line that determines whether or not I'm going to read an e mail. And if it mentions porn, or loans or things like that, I usually delete it without thinking about it too heavily. But hey, today I'm feeling a little perculiar, and I can't think of a decent subject line. Any recomendations will be gratefully accepted. Message-ID: <20011108132824.13663.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> hiya everyone, Well, I'm trying to give up smoking again. Success rate so far? 3 days 2 hours and twenty five minutes. I've also taken up various lotions and potions in order to make me feel better for whatever reason. Hmm. *fed up* I'm feeling quite fed up at the moment, and extremely receptive to things people have to say. I'll try not to interupt, but today I feel like listening. *realises theres nothing really to tell* Why can't I live like I do in my day dreams? Suggestions please. Thanks Idles. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 14:46:35 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:46:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm Waking Up for my Bus (ho ho!) Message-ID: Everyone's waiting for something to happen... >Check the website on friday morning. It may well confirm what you >already >know. >~cant wait till friday... >Hmm. *fed up* Well something just has. Have a look at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/, for news, photos and scary flop-eared dogs. That subject line really is awful, isn't it? R x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie Thu Nov 8 15:34:32 2001 From: Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie (Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:34:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I didn't realise my being sick put you off your food Message-ID: <80256AFE.00559069.00@finance.irlgov.ie> ARS 1 Ken Chu wrote: <> At Mogwai, in Dublin last night, there was a stool at the edge of the stage. On it was written "Fat Arse". A female with short fair hair came on to play the cello for a while. She seemed to fit what was written on the stool. Between the strobe lighting and my increasing blindness, I couldn't be sure, but could it have been our own Isobel? BTW, according to my Sinister Book of Ready Rules, items in quotations don't get hit by the body parts gallery rules. And Mogwai were even louder than when I first saw them, and that was LOUD. ARS 2 Speaking of ars, Seamus wrote of <> Oddly, Joss looked very sinister on that interview, whereas he didn't look sinister when on Sinister. It wasn't the kind of interview that will shift the units. But it did give a good picture of the trials of being in a band that's building up very slowly. They are well worth a listen; I keep hearing a Neil Young tinge in their music. Am I going deaf as well as blind? I recorded the interview. I don't know how to make copies but I could post it to anyone in VHS videoland who wants to make a copy. The video for the song doesn't fit though. JOA would be better served by the vomiting ballerina video for Nina Swedishsoundingname's video (Honey used to praise her). Non ARS 1 The vomiting ballerina didn't provide the subject line, though. It's from a born-again Christian bulimic former flatmate of Vodkabird, according to VB in today's digest (the last post in the weddingfeastatcanadigest) A subject line I was tempted by was Archel's <> Both would be good sillustrations? Non ARS 2 Grainne quoted from a Frames site: <> Considering what Ireland did to SM last time, I think he should be kept away from toyshops. I can imagine him smashing everything (is it the shamrocks or the Guinness that gets to him?) and there won't be any money left and it will be too late for those kids to get anything. In fact the safest thing is to bring him to Dublin instead to do a solo gig (under very close supervision) and let the rest of the band do Belfast. Martin C Sinister Senior Citizenry PS Those who, in their adolescence, liked both Catcher in the Rye and Carson McCullers (thanks for reminding in recent post, Dahling) would probably love Michael Collins's Keepers of the Truth. May be hard to get but is really exceptional. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 15:43:22 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:43:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm taking up on drugs Message-ID: Cough medicine, that is. This morning I was waking up to us..uss..us..ushoo! ...Bogey everywhere type affair... hehe okay so maybe not bogey everywhere, but still I felt so ill. Luckily tho, what I woke up with was also loads and loads of e-mails to get me through what normally would be a borrring morrrning at work, thank you girls, I love you all. I'm not as ill as before either, well still ill, but a lil bit less ill.. I just wanted to talk about my cough to carry on the "I'm waking up to us" pun theme that Robin had set.. :-) Today I actaully had some real work to do, I had to phone up a few customers about their cars, and one guy on the list was called "Mr. Egil Ostensted".. a namesake for the Norwegian International Football Player.. I was like.. surely not! Then I looked in his address and it was "Blackburn Rovers, Blackburn, UK" and my heart flopped.. woooo this is my claim to fame, I get to phone up someone vaguely famous! My heart pounds as each hit on the phone's keypad registered.. dee dee doo doo dee, my blood pressure rose.. a voice appeared on the phone. "Hello".. said Egil Ostenstad. "Hello!" said Ken "The area code for this number has been changed, please dial again with the new code or contact your telephone operator" said Egil.. wait, that's not Egil, that's the BT error messages woman pretending to be Egil! Grr! She didn't even do a good impression! Can she shoot with an overhead kick from the edge of the penalty area? No! Was she the top striker for Southampton? No, but it wouldn't have been difficult. Is she actually a maaaan? No, this is no Jerry Springer. This is a pre-recorded message designed to disappoint Ken. I couldn't find the new area code, so now we're going to send him a letter instead.. sigh.. I intended to send him a tape asking him why he wouldn't pick up my call, whilst I drink a fifth of vodka and drive my car over a bridge, like Stan did. But I decided against it cos I'm not a crappy rapper. If I carry on like this people would think I'm actaully on drugs, so I won't. Byee. Ken P.S.: Girls, you are still welcome to write me :-) I'm not a BT error message woman. P.P.S.: Sorry if you're the BT error message woman, I don't really hate you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 16:42:15 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:42:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oh my..... Message-ID: <20011108164215.98280.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> perhaps i'm mistaken, but did i just read a certain MARTIN C calling our beloved isobel a ehem, "fat arse"? i feel my hands clenching into fists..... -----caleb ben aka RAW ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 19:27:40 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:27:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fold your hands child, you walk like Karl Marx. Message-ID: Hi folks, Just wanted to pop out for a bit and say hi. I've actually got some content to report, although it may not be as exciting as others. 6 CHILDREN (Correlation a-lert!) Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but I noticed an intriguing similarity between FYHCYWLAP and Marx & Engels. And that similarity is Saturday meals. "Saturday meals?" You say. "Yes," I reply. "Saturday meals." '..but I know for a fact there are a thousand Saturday meals being made and a thousand Saturday plans being hatched to drink and be senseless..' -Jesus & The Hipsters vignette, FYHC liner notes. '..there a thousand meals being made on Saturday..' -(Rumour has it these are) 'Marx & Engels' lyrics. Something to think about. Can you believe Karl Marx had six children? That's something else to think about entirely. Or maybe I just made that up. EVERYBODY'S LEARNING HOW. 'I love my Carl. I love my Brian, my Dennis and my Al. I could even find it in my hear to love Mike Love.' -(Rumour has it these are) Lyrics to 'I Love My Car.' Carl Wilson, Brian Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Al Jardine, and Mike Love, cousin of the Wilson brothers, were members of the popular American group 'The Beach Boys.' If someone knows who the names dropped in Shoot the Sexual Athlete are, please enlighten us. Another request: tabs for Lord Anthony? THE PERSONAL BITS. Things have been going well with me for the most part. I'm going to see the (International) Noise Conspiracy next Sunday. I have been listening to a lot of Donovan lately and liking it, which might or might not be a good thing. I haven't worked at my librarian job for awhile. School is going decently. Eugenia added a third member. If you recieve Kara's Sinister mixtape you will hopefully hear an old demo of ours (if I can get out to post in soon, sorry it's taking so long). We should pay that girl that does the big summaries. That's a lot of work. Keep up the story Andre. I like your writing style. Ken, if the famous Red Bull Dozers ever tour the States give me a call. That eXtreme Elvis story was incredibly.. something. But incredible nonetheless. I enjoyed the excerpt on the lover and beloved as well. Good work everyone. The mood around these parts is great and I hope you all are happy. Love, Timothy. xoxo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Thu Nov 8 19:36:36 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:36:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: schoolbook angel Message-ID: <00f101c1688c$aef22720$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> Hiy Bubblegums! I'm starting to go back to comprehensive school habits. Skipping classes, sneaking off, "forgetting" to do homework, slacking...And yes I do feel ashamed of myself, but how can one fight one's nature? And this is adult school, mind. Everyone seems to be so responsible and ambitious, except for me and my friend. (I'm glad there's two of us). I wasn't going to let this happen, I thought before I started adult school. And then it happened anyway. Shame. Yesterday I went out, again. Wednesday. Remind me to avoid Wednesday nights out. I felt old, though I was not the oldest. And the whole crowd was about 15 people sitting down and drinking beer and 15 people dancing to shitty techno music on the floor. And me trying to make conversation with the loo. Wrong place at the wrong time, I'll stick to the weekends from now on, I think. Everytime I go out nowadays I seem to be having these little run-ins with the toilet (not including all the times I go there to pee, because everything I drink just flows right through my inner systems). I don't know why. Guess it could be the cigarettes. Or all the cider I'm always drinking, cause I don't like beer. Maybe I should start ordering drinks instead. Maybe Red bull+vodka? Or maybe not that. At least having had enough after 3 ciders means fairly cheap nights. I looked through some old comic magazines the other day and found an ex of Care Bears! So cute, from the 80's. The sweet little bears with symbols with magical powers on their bellies. I decided to print one of them on a t-shirt, but I couldn't find any good images on the internet. Now I have one of Sleepy(?) Bear asleep on a big half moon :) I liked Mr Gilmer's impression of "Judy and the dream of horses". "Poor bugger's built this image of Judy in his head, a Judy he's sure he knows, and if the real Judy pours out all her unhappiness, tells him how she really feels, then his image gets shattered, and he never really knew her." I've never thought of it that way. It's kind of sad. To think you know someone really well, only to discover you don't know the person at all. B&S songs are sad. Still they make me smile. Cunning Andre wrote: "I did my usual thing, sitting down near the back, so that I can people-watch without feeling crowded." So maybe I'm not that odd, liking to sit near the back of the bus watching everyone getting on and off. I would probably make it a hobby, riding buses, if it was free and if I had the time, and if I wasn't afraid of being looked upon as a lunatic. For the moment I only take the bus to and from school. I've often thought about getting on a bus and just go with it, anywhere. And I've imagined ending up on the countryside, or in a village somewhere, or just out in nowhere. It would be interesting, though I think I'll save that trip til summer returns. It's too goddamn cold right now, to end up being stuck miles from civilisation (though I don't think buses would drop you off in such a place...I could be wrong though) There's been talk about sinister age clubs. I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I think I'll start a 21's Only-club. HA! ;-) That Rachel fruitloop keeps impressing me. Those poor fingers must be working themselves weary. I hope you don't feel you have to write summarys cause it's expected. You make good impression anyway. All your posts are good! ..I've seen her write it all down cause of all the things she sees.. Is there really a thing as "too late to chase girls"? Isn't it just that later in life it will be referred to as "to charm women"? It all comes down to the same thing! I'm still waiting for the right boy to charm me, and if you lot try to tell him it's too late I'll smack your arses! ;-) (that's supposed to be a punishment, not a reward, mind) Lucky girl Astrid got to see the swedish band "Edson" recently. They're very very nice. I saw them this summer at a festival. Sitting in the grass, eating sandwiches, drinking Festis, relaxing and just listening to the mellow soft tunes of Edson. Simply grate. A certain Kenneth P Y (now WHU could that be?) ordered the girls to use the reply button......I believe the reply button works the other way around as well? This is the end. My stomach has its on will, and right now it wills me into the kitchen. Love and Care Bears! -AN (the Monchichi lookalike) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 20:22:44 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:22:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: my friend's in a band...they're called "left testicle". Message-ID: i'm sporting a plaster on the side of my head now. i haven't worn a plaster since i was about 12. i always used to like the novelty of wearing a plaster for about two hours but then i got bored of them. so ripped them off and made my cuts ten times worse. anyway, now i'm i can wear my plasters for more than two hours and i can appreciate their usefulness. i got my cut in the most foolish way possible. i was in a rush to get to college this morning so i ran out of the front door. because it's winter there's ice around now, and the door ledge was icey so i slipped up. then i fell over on the concrete. because i had my bag on i fell to my side in one swift motion. it would've been better to not have had my bag on so then i could've at least raised my arms to protect myself, but instead my head hit the floor. for once i had a decent excuse for being late for my class, "why are you late nafees?"...."oh you know...fell out of the door...the usual". the only bad thing about wearing a plaster is explaining to everybody why you're actually wearing a plaster. which induces the laughter and sniggers. after reading about ken's *almost* encounter with a celebrity, i thought it would be fitting to tell about mine the other day which i forgot to mention. when i was at the bonnie prince billy gig waiting for my friend i saw a pasty faced, floppy fringed man in big glasses and a big brown tweed jacket. yup, it was jarvis cocker. i was surprised actually, because i always thought he was really tall...but he's not. but he is however, really skinny. i didn't speak to him but i did do the acknowledging nodding of the head that seems to be innate with all northerners. -- i went looking for a job yesterday, but i didn't find one. well i got application forms and one interview. but i'm not sure i want the job i have an interview for, but as i my mother was quick to remind me...beggars can't be choosers. i'm not very good at filling in forms, mainly because i don't know how to answer them. it's those silly questions like "what qualities do you possess?" and "why do you feel you are suitable for this job?" that throw me. i am however, good at filling in the questions that go "name", "address", "telephone number". i need to fill them in by saturday so i suppose i better start tomorrow. i need to make a CV too. ack. too much stuff to do. it would be nice if there was a job that paid you for doing whatever you wanted. has anybody else noticed that there seems to be a lot of B & Q warehouses opening recently, or is it just in north west area? george bush used the phrase "kodak moment" today. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sinister at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 20:49:01 2001 From: sinister at xxx.com (John Jennings) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:49:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ere long done do does did. Message-ID: <3BEAEFBD.8070307@london.com> Moornin' people. Ooh crikey i'm very nervous about posting again after all this time. ok well actually i'm not that nervous, i just think putting something like that is compulsory isn't it? Lots of people seem to be getting ill don't they, get well if you are, probably because of the cold weather methinks (ooh there was snow today! snow snow snow!) aanyways, talking of being ill, thanks to the (4) people who sent me worried emails about me' ears, they're now healed and fine, but i'm never flying air2000 again. crikey no. thats a warning to all you cheap-flight-buyers as well. anyways, now i'm fit and healthy again i shall be back touring the sinister picnics faster than you can say 'who the hell is john jennings anyway?'. how exciting. By means of john peel and tapes from friends i have finally heard all of the new single. i thought they played 'waking up...' at birmingham but i don't remember it. 'tis still grate though, i love my car is infinately better though methinks. btw i read somewhere... some paper i think... that 'storytelling' (film) is out on november 30th in the uk, and december something or other in the us. not sure if this is right or not, but shouldn't the soundtrack follow fairly closely? i get the feeling you've already discussed this somewhere actually and i just missed it though. sorry if thats the case. Ooh someone noticed my b&s badges today, a good 5 months after their placement.... it involved lots of stunned silence on my part, and i asked her if she was on sinister, and she gave me a funny look and got off the bus at the next stop. i think she must have misheard me. or else she heard me perfectly well. hmm... i was looking through my cds that i haven't listened to for ages and i found an old alanis morissette single, from 1995. it doesn't seem like six years ago does it? it bought back lots of memories, of me in my first couple of years of comprehensive school in nottingham with all my rebel friends (yes i am that young), listening to their alanis morissette cds and smoking tea leaves. hehe. i bet they all like death metal and are hard drug users by now. crikey. or maybe they like belle and sebastian and everything is fine and happy and sweet. probably not. ooh i've just reinstalled icq... last time i installed it i used it purely to immerse myself in college gossip but now it seems to have no meaningful purpose at all, other than to waste time... which i suppose is a very meaningful purpose actually.. 31539885 if you want to fill my meaningless-gossip void. hurrah. i've just agreed to play my viola in a band called 'esme and the go-fields'. sigh. and what was the point of this email i hear you ask. well i don't know. if you can find a point, well thats good. dum de dum. JPx -- www.ilonline.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 21:15:13 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (JohnnyNYC) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:15:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do go there to cool your hands in the grey twilight of Gothic things Message-ID: <001001c1689a$74f52640$f909040a@ops.about.com> My Own Boy, Your sonnet is quite lovely, and it is a marvel that those red-roseleaf lips of yours should be made no less for the madness of music and song than for the madness of kissing. Your slim gilt soul walks between passion and poetry. I know Hyacinthus, whom Apollo loved so madly, was you in Greek days. Why are you alone in London, and when do you go to Salisbury? Do go there to cool your hands in the grey twilight of Gothic things, and come here whenever you like. It is a lovely place and lacks only you; but go to Salisbury first. Always, with undying love, Yours, OSCAR. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Thu Nov 8 23:22:09 2001 From: staralful at xxx.com (staralful -) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 23:22:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i recall central park in fall-how you tore your dress -what a mess Message-ID: hello everyone i hope this finds you all in fine fettle. Right this email suprisingly enough for me is a) content laden and b) politically (for the most part) neutral. 1) content part well my tail has been wagging ever since the rumors starting flying and being confirmed about the gig in belfast. A city that i a) know little about and b) a place that i up untill last night had no real urge to go to. But that all changed yesterday. Anyway i am now quite excited as they are playing a city that is (checks map) only 350 ish miles away from where i live-that is 2 train rides or failing that 2 bus journeys. Anyway from what i have read the gig is supported by the frames ( a rather good irish band) and is �16.50. AND apparntly there is a bus organised up from Dublin- is there any chance we could have the info before Tuesday WHY KEEP US WAITING. Anywho fellow irish men and irish women i call on you today to all attend the gig as i want to know how dirty the dirty vicar is. Right on a completly different tangent i was wondering if there are/were any listees en paris because i am taking a wee trip there in the spring with a couple of friends and was wondering if any one could offer advice as to a) the nice arroidismonts to stay in (and by that i mean the cheapest with out it being the marais) and b)the nice places to hang out as we want to see real paris and not just the touristee stuff which while nice have all been seen before i suppose i should for the sake of things i need to throw in some controversy-------------------no i can't be arsed good night ****staralful***** "Are you calling Mr Simpson a liar?"-----" Not exactly -but we do have this fottage of him with his pants on fire" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Nov 9 01:09:53 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 01:09:53 Subject: Sinister: wrong link, sorry! Message-ID: <186737028@spray.se> hey again, i wrote the wrong link for my school photo. the correct one is: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/astridschool.html _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Thu Nov 8 00:36:18 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (Andre Alessi) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:36:18 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: content! Content! CONTENT! Message-ID: <1005266178.3beb2502a651b@webmail.cs.auckland.ac.nz> I have just been sitting out in the glorious summer sun drinking chamomile tea with my friends Catherine (who works at the Maidment) and Ben (who doesn't) having a jolly old time, talking about philosophy and chocolate rolls and unrequited crushes on local rock stars. That is not what I wanted to write to y'all about, though. Oh, no. It is only tangentally important to this epistle. You see, Catherine is someone I recently lent "Tigermilk" to, and she has become a convert; a Sinistereen-by-proxy, if you will. Her (and my) favourite song just happens to be My Wandering Days Are Over. So, that is the content of the subject line, you may be thinking. Big deal, I hear you mutter. Rightly, pehaps, if that were it. Oh, no. Not that. Not that at all. The real _content_ of this email is a somewhat startling revelation. While we were in the middle of our discussion about Deleuze and Wittgenstein, she suddenly broke into song-My Wandering Days Are Over, from the top. So? I hear you ask. Well, what makes that so startling is that her and Ben did not just _sing_ MWDAO... They also did _actions_ to it. Yes, that's right! MWDAO is a veritable ACTION SONG, like the Hokey Pokey or the Time Warp. And I never noticed. Not once. This is an attempt at transcribing the actions as they relate to the lyrics. Try them, and you'll see what I mean (you'll need to view this in a fix-width font, or it won't make sense.) My Wandering Days Are Over You know my wandering days are over Or does that mean that I'm getting boring? You tell me I'm tired of listening to myself, yeah I'm tired of fixing things for Michael and the rest of them You know my bip-bopping days are over I hung my boots up and then retired from the disco floor The centre of my so-called being is The space between your bed and wardrobe with the louvre doors With the louvre doors You know my celibate days are over You put me straight on the finer points of my speech rehearsed In the mirror of a steamy bathroom Where the lino tells a sorry story in a mono logue In a mono logue Six months on, the winter's gone The disenchanted pony Left the town with the circus boy The circus boy got lonely It's summer and it's sister's song's thumb over shoulder> Been written for the lonely The circus boy is feeling melancholy... There's more, but you get the idea. Right-o, that's me. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 00:48:59 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:48:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The CHUnited States of KENlamity, hey! Message-ID: <20011109004859.66028.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> HELOOOOOOO SINISTERINES! It used to be that as I read your posts I could just copy the bits that appealed to me into my own draft for the list and then post about 2 times a week, but y'all are so prolific that I am finding that to unify our voices, it's taking more like 3 posts a week to keep them in a readable format! I just hope that it isn't too tiresome for you... I always get paranoid that I'm posting to often or too much. And Carsmile Steve will be happy to hear that I re-read the rules and I am also paranoid about pasting too many quotes and not writing enough of my own. Hi Carsmile! ;) I think my paranoia is what makes me so fruitloopy. Or maybe I'm just a fan of Black Sabbath. You be the judge! I'll warn you now, I'll be posting a lot again soon! I have really only been able to read carefully through posts up until Tuesday! Rich. Gil. wrote: "but sometimes. when I'm reading. it feels like I'm writing. I had imagined there was more than there is." It's a funny thing to weave a tapestry of the current threads, because it does seem to me like there was more than there is, too! When I'm reading I feel like I'm writing... but probably because I am! ***************************WELCOME!!****************************** "Like a powerful Jedi telling an apprentice that he�s doing good." (eh, Jose?!) I'd like to give a loud shout out to Jose Emanuel!!!! and WELCOME to Lucyebrown!!!! Grate introductory posts, Lucy and Jose! **************************LOVESPELL******************************* Photo-Cola-Cube Jenni Cay wrote: "I go over to talk to him and introduce myself whereupon he comes out with the best chat-up line I've heard in ages."I've been drawing a lot of naked women recently." And when I went "Oh really?" He replied "Yeah, tourists will do anything for a tenner..." God bless pissed Arts students." Ooh, I love bad pick-up lines! My favorite right now is to approach someone and feel the sleeve of their shirt or the collar and say "Is this felt?" and when they say "no" or just look confused, I say "It is now" and run my hand down their arm or chest, depending on how well I know them/how much I've had to drink! They usually laugh. usually. Chris Jones wrote: "What I find amusing is the string of women Mr. Walton has following him wherever he goes. Like the Pied Piper, only different." Different because the rats have boobies? And because THEY want the piper to pay THEM for blowing his flute? And Chris, you're important. But it hasn't made me ease up on my posting (and your Sarah Martin style kung fu chop will be the most action I've seen in a while!) Dimitra wrote about long distance relationships/list crushes: "When I'm walking the streets of my town, and they for some reason look particularly beautiful. I know there's someone wishing he was there with me. That there is someone who'd like me to think of him. And I always thought, or rather, no, I have discovered, that the actual part of a relationship, what makes it *it*, is having someone in your mind and in your heart. And near your soul." This is particularly beautiful to me because I like to think of letting people into my heart and soul. I like to imagine that the mundane world can be cut out like bruised spots on an apple, and at the core of me is an idea, a seed, if you will... for love. Awww! :) Will Salt wrote: "I had an idea the other day for a Grand Project. I want to write my autobiography in pictures, because it would be much better than words." and then he went into things not to be confused with other things, and Through The Looking Glass. Take a picture of this one for your book, Salt. This post left no doubt in my mind that you RAQUE my world! So much for Wills v. Rachels rivalry... I've got a crush on the adversary. *sigh* I'm so ashamed. Johnjohn wrote: "i plucked up the courage after hours to ask her to dance with me, and my bestest attempts to make her smile or giggle ended up in vein as �i'll be right back� really meant �sorry� and i never saw her for the rest of the evening�.and that is why i am never chasing a girl again." And then Danny wrote: "I remember sitting in my room hatching a masterplan to woo her over, i decided on a poem rather than a wee cute sweetie because i knew she liked poetry." I wrote an extremely seductive poem to my Smartly Dressed friend. He said that it made him blush, but I think that he liked it. Although, it didn't really fuel the fire of passion between us as I had hoped it would. Kids, it just goes to show that our talents of picking out lovehearts and writing poetry don't necessarily go unnoticed, just not as inspirational to the objects of our affection as we had hoped to be. I think next time I will avoid all of the niceties and just shove him up against the wall and have my way with him. Cos, geez, what a waste of a good poem!!!! Rich.Gil. wrote: "crushvoting: isn't the anonymity a wee bit...? hey. I wondered who had sent. but. then. I stopped." Yeah, well, I think it's really fun to be crushed anonymously but so much MORE FUN when you find out who it is and you can sweet-talk eachother! Isn't that right Benny-bunny? That is, until the Super Furry Animals quotes run out! ;) Keep the crush votes coming, they're grate!! Guess what!? People listened to what I said! I said: "I want to have a Sinister 'List Date' on Friday night" and now a bunch of us are meeting up at Buca di Beppo in Pasadena on Green St for dinner at 9! Yay! L.A. Sinisterines unite! We'll see about the "take over" part! Full report coming this weekend! It will be Grrrrrate! Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester wrote: "Fruitloop (my team-mate), when you were 15, all the boys like me were hanging around wondering why all the girls didn't like us and neither did most of the boys." You're right Joe, you boys were probably there all along when I was 15, but I was too busy dating the cool 19-year-old with the piercings and the motorcycle (to upset my parents, of course!) Damn! Talk about a role reversal! I'm such a dirty old lady now, going 'round with barely legals and such! A couple more years Joe, and watch out!! You won't be able to keep the girls OR boys away! ;) Lovely Juju Cat wrote: "boys are dumb, i guess. they want something, and want to chase it, and sometimes they do.. but this one, he wants something, but just sits there dreaming about it, putting me off like he doesn't have the time.. what does it mean?" Oh Juju! It means that he's not willing to do the work to make it a reality, or that he's so self-centered and caught up in the idea that there's something to chase that he doesn't feel that he even needs to go through the motions. In esscence, he is satisfied with the *idea* of chasing an idea. It can only spell heartache and frustration, my sweet! I, personally, don't have time for the dood who will not even be lured into a good chase. And really, it shouldn't even come to that, you're so super cool and pretty that any boy reading this now would be *lucky* to have your attention, Juju! Lindsey lou was ill. I hope you get better soon, luv! I loved Lindsey's wondering "why the bed is called a twin-size when it only ever holds one." good question. I suppose by choosing to sleep in a twin bed, I can't exactly complain about it being empty, can I? I suppose you can't either. I suppose we need to go buy new big kid beds and then we can complain about the emptiness of the middle-matress lovers! Piddlemonkey the Rachel Griddlemonkey wrote: "I would quite like to just sit next to her, and hold her hand. without saying a word." Oooh, this idea is nice. I like the thought of seeing a certain somebody but not saying a word to eachother, and how romantic it would be if he stood near me and just reached over to hold my hand. Holding hands is terribly cute. I am into it. Such innocent affection. Warms a girl's heart, I tell ya! Stacey Dahling quoted Carson McCullers:"And the curt truth is that, in a deep secret way, the state of being beloved is intolerable to many, the beloved fears and hates the lover, and with the best of reasons." This quote is so very true, I think. that's why "the chase" happens at all. I think I like being chased much more now than I used to. It brings up a lot of self-doubt when you are the adored rather than the adorer. Big Stu wrote: "List crushes are all well and good, but really we all want some down-and-dirty Sinister loving. None of this pansying about emailing people in different countries, just get on with it. Then we can create a whole new generation of B&S fans, and the world will be a better place." Yes, indeed. Except for like Astrid was saying not too long ago about singing Belle & Sebastian someday whilst taking the kids to school and how the kids will probably hate b&s because kids rebel against their parents. So we must all pretend to love terrible music so our love children will have grate taste! Vanessa wrote: "I wish human relationships would work the same way as my ZoneAlarm firewall does." I think we develop a sense for these things with experience, and although the warnings don't pop up as blatantly as they do with your firewall, you can develop a sense about when somebody isn't going to be nice to you or when you have withstood enough torture. Unfortunately, we don't always heed the warnings! Believe me when I say that I don't listen to me, either! Jim Gilmer quoted his friend Erin as saying "Fuck love, fuck it with knives!!" That is *such* a grate answer for occasions when someone says "I love you" and you don't understand why they're saying it to you when it's so inappropriate! Lalala la you're so vain, I bet you think this post is about you.... Madeleine wrote: "I have decided to stop being so nice about people in my posts as it only makes them vain, like Big Stu Gardiner." ha ha! That was a good one! But be nice to me in your posts Mad, or I'll *cry* like Big Stu is over there hiding behind that chair! ;) **************************THIS IS MUSIC*************************** The sushi waiter Tim Banning (His play opens tomorrow night! Break a leg, Tim!) said: "They called Belle and Sebastian a "Simon and Garfunkle cover band". Fare enough, considering he has a Linkin Park CD and likes it." Ecchhhh! A bit of trivia: at my old job, we did all the merchandising for Linkin Park on the web because the president of the company is one of the guitar player's father. So, I knew about Linkin Park before they were rock stars and they were called "Zero" and then "Hybrid Theory" and have gone bowling with some of them, etc. You think that their fans have any idea that Linkin Park FIRED their old singer because Warner Brothers didn't like him and they wanted a deal? Warner Brothers also found their singer Chester for them. So much for formulated boy bands just being the 'Nsync type! JoPerry (not to be confused with Joe Perry, Aerosmith guitarist) wrote: "i feel obliged and somehow sad to mention was that a rather rumbunctous man swore at me when i mentioned them (B&S) in a musicy conversation. How blinkin rude. Mind you his Parker coat was grubby so i felt superior anyway." Yeah, I don't know why people can't handle talking about Belle & Sebastian as having any musical credibility, and it pisses me off! Especially after seeing them live. They are far more superior to a lot of popular bands around these days. Besides this fact, why do people tend to be so rude about it? I think they're threatened because they KNOW b&s rule the school deep down and they're just not twee enough to admit it!! Chris Jones wrote: "WHEN IS SAMANTHA MUMBA JOINING B&S?" Didn't CHU know, she was one of the original members and got kicked out for an accessive use of Big Sexy Hair hairspray! JenOwl wrote: "And this became the legendary episode of me teaching Dino from Fear Factory how to play Bigmouth Strikes Again and some of String Bean Jean. " That is the stuff that dreams are made of!!! I can't even picture it! Please tell me that somebody recorded this event for your pictoral autobiography!!! Hey, I just thought of something really funny I have on an audio tape somewhere: Brett Anderson from Suede singing "SubMission" by the Sex Pistols completely drunk off his arse on Jagermeister! Not very "fey" of him at all! Robin Stout wrote: "La la la... I love my car, I love my.. Oh no that's 'Lady In Red', let's try again..." When I read that I laughed so hard that milk came out of my nose, and I wasn't even drinking milk! Jim Gilmer wrote: "It's a bit weird to look around and realize no one's even bobbing their heads. I mean, honestly, there's an amazing band pumping out insane amount of noise and ace beats and these people look like dogs being shown a card trick." UM YA, WHAT-EVER! *Rachie makes an "L" with her finger and thumb to her forehead* I don't know WHAT this new trend is with people not dancing very much at all! Especially to bands like Quasi and Stereolab, or BELLE & SEBASTIAN!! Carmel echoed the sentiment when she wrote: "That made me want to cry because how could you NOT dance to B&S??" Yeah, I know that probably everybody reading this right now would be dancing their legs down to the knees, right? Come on, I did it *on stage* in between Stu and Isobel, you lot can certainly shake a tailfeather out in the crowd! Plus, I think it helps the whole energy of a show if the band can see everyone getting into the groove! Carmel wrote: "there is a little article about Belle and Sebastian's show in Portland in a recent issue of Spin. It has a really cute picture of Stuart talking to the audience and describes the feeling of the crowd that night pretty well." The picture is too small, though. B&S should have gotten the cover instead of Kid Rock! *****************************FUN STUFF**************************** Big Stu, korfball sounds like something that Gordon Schumway would play. You know, ALF? Alien Life Form? No problem? Ate cats? Ring a bell? Kyla wrote: "one doesn't expect to be preached to by a naked fat elvis impersonator with a penchant for publicly consuming his own piss. but one would be wrong." That was a super-duper crazy story alright!!! I liked it. It kind of made me sick, yet made me happy that there are such CRAZY people out there making their "art". Just as long as they are not in MY neighborhood bringin' the property value down, maaaan! Welcome Beth, who sent a first post! Beth jumped right in like double-dutch with this comment to Will: "Wouldn't it be fantastic to smoke loads of opium in the name of art?" Hmmm. The Wills are probably crazy enough to do it. maybe the Chris', too. I think the Rachels are too scared to smoke opium. At least, this one is! Tom flashboy is back and he eluded to: "someday I will tell you about the "half-naked Jonny Vegas calling a barn dance while wearning a pink stetson" incident. Oh, I will tell you...." and he also named his cows some quite adorable names! So? Where's our story, TOM?! Astrid wrote: "I met an old lady that lives in our house. She looks like she�s 100 years old, she is so cool." When I read this I kept picturing that Astrid was talking about a ghost in her house... Is she a ghost or a live person? Cynical Fiona wrote the most amusing pairing of sentences: "i'm making myself angry now so I'll stop. I can't wait for christmas ;-)" Jim Gilmer wrote "This is why we need jetpacks and flying cars. They'd make sinister drink-ups so much easier." Yes, indeed, I agree. If we're still going to have horrible wars and destruction I want my damn jetpack and my flying car! I'll come to visit you Elise and Kirsten, and to Primrose Hill for Mr. Bunny Apps, I'll make a Chu stop, and follow the big hunk Asm around a bit, and then make a Llew stop, and a Mandee May stop... and then I'll get you, adorable Jimmy G.! Oh, I'll get you.... ***************************!VIVA RACHELS!************************** Rachel O.J. wrote: "i'm so looking forward to the mix-tape-battle! the rachels is going to show you all how grate we are!! it'll be lovely!" Yes, indeed! 2 of the Rachels will be at my house this weekend (Miss Cornflake and Miss Cheeriodle) and we will continue working on the mix!! So far, SO GOOD!!! You Wills and Chris' should be shakin' in yer boots!!! Nik Ovenden wrote: "Under-20's club Isn't this a bit cliquey? Along with the Rachel/Will cold war ensuing, shouldn't we be striving for group unity? I don't know..." Well Nik, I'm glad to inform you that not only do many of the Rachels have crushes on Judge Chu, but this Rachel is smitten with not only Will Salt, but also Chris Pez!! *Rachie hides head waiting for rotten tomatoes to be chucked* Also, I tend to get locked out of the Sinister Retirement Community for missing curfew whilst taking out the barely legals of the Under-20's set, so I personaly am ALL FOR the group unity, believe me! In more ways than one! ************************HOMEFRONT********************************** Stacey Dahling wrote: "But it�s disconcerting to realize one day that the entire nature of your home has changed dramatically. And it�s probably a good thing that I will be forced to be social. But. But. But. I dunno." Yes, Stacey, I am still suffereing in the face of my brother's irresponsibility, our household is not fun. I can relate to the sudden crowded feeling. Now, my brother said that he was coming to get his stuff and move to Nevada, that was after he ran off and got married and we didn't hear from him for 2 weeks. He got fired from his job. He and his wife flew out here, and her friend was supposed to *give* them a car. (who the hell just *gives* you a car?!) When they went to pick it up it had been towed, and his wife got mad at the friend and told her that she had to pay for them to get back to Nevada because they had no other way back. The friend, of course, didn't! So they sat around my house for a week. The wife lost her job in Nevada. Our parents loaned them money to rent a truck and they moved all of the wife's stuff and her 2 little dogs into our house, so that my brother's *band* could be cultivated for probably another seven years or so out here. Meanwhile, he paid his portion of the rent for November, so I am trying to be patient, but if they don't get jobs and their own apartment by November 30th I don't care, they are OUT! Oh my brothers and sisters, can I get a *JERRY*JERRY*JERRY* He had a stroke at the age of 24, I think. My brother is just not right in the head! Grrrr! Tracy Ebberts wrote: "her father tells me this morning that he is ready to head off to seattle...and if it means leaving hayley, so be it... and my heart is breaking in a million different ways... the funny thing is...this is why i like b&s..." This is so sad that your daughter's daddy is moving far away. I like that you are making a parallel to B&S in such a heart-wrenching situation. I won't say that I'm *jealous* that you have something so IMPORTANT to relate to their music, but definitely in awe of it, in a sense. Mostly I just feel sad for your little family and I'm sorry because that would be unimaginable to have a child and see her in this situation! I hope it all works out ok. *****************************NATURE***************************** Amy "Rachel AppleJacks" Longcore wrote of the sunset:"all that crazy pink and orange seemingly hitting the earth with a somehow fierce softness." That is utterly gorgeous Amy. I like the fierce softness of the sunset. I miss the sunset since the time change. Now it's dark when I go home from work and I used to be just in time for the sunset. This is what Chris Pez wrote that made my heart melt: "i lay on my bed face down 'till it was dark. i watched the sodium lamp outside my window flick on and then change from a deep red to the orange glow we all know and love. the clouds changed from huge stratospheric to thin straggling horizontal. like great expectations, but the only uprights in the scene were telegraph poles, not jibbets." It gives me chills, it's so pretty. He claims to have been drunk when he wrote it... this Chris must be a total chick magnet! ;) Genevieve wrote: "Imagine that - in Los Angeles that have pomegranate trees!" Yes, indeed! And lots and lots of citrus! I'll invite you over for pomegranites and huge bumpy lemons that grow from a tree that is spliced together with a naval orange tree, and you'd think that the lemons would be sweet or the oranges would be sour, but they actually grow on different boughs! There's pink grapefruits but they have their own tree, and small red apples that sometimes grow big if the squirrels and worms don't get them first. It's like an orchard back there, and if I had a jaccuzzi we could get lobster red and then roll around in February... well, dirt and grass, because we don't get snow where I live. It snowed once in 1988. I remember. I had pneumonia and broke a rib coughing. I stayed home from school and played Nintendo for about a month! Archel Toast wrote: "but it's better than the time i dropped villette by charlotte bronte in a rockpool in pembrokeshire." This struck me as really hilarious because it's awful that you spilled water on a library book and had to blow it dry under a dryer! But to say this is like saying "it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick" only more twee! *********************DIDN'T CHU KNOW? by JenOwl******************** "Oh, and if there are any complete geeks in glasgow, near the Belgrove Hotel where all the crazy drunk homeless men stand outside and spew, theres a place called Chu's Cuisine. So ken, you've been found out. You sell kebabs to alcholics." ***********************FAVORITE QUOTES***************************** "I may be loves bitch, but I'm not man enough to admit it."--Will Spike "The world might just be magical after all."--Dimitra **************************************************************** Well, I shall see you L.A. kids tomorrow night! Love to you all (especially Ryan, Elise, Ben and the Rachels!), Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 01:47:32 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:47:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: only slightly mental In-Reply-To: <20011109004859.66028.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011109014732.80995.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> I feel so honored--I made it into a Rachel Fruitloop post! And yes, I agree, the picture was entirely too small! Spin finally got the idea to put a GOOD band in their magazine and didn't give them enough space. :P My friend was the one who showed me the article and as soon as I picked it up she said, "don't steal it! it's mine!"...to which I responded "I wasn't GOING to steal it!"...but she knows me a little too well, I was going to steal it...damn best friends--they always seem to know what you're evil motives are. au revoir, carmel (anxiously awaiting the new B&S records!) ===== "Once again, packed like frozen food and battery hens Think of all the starving millions Don't talk politics and don't throw stones Your royal highnesses" --Radiohead-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Nov 9 00:50:51 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 00:50:51 Subject: Sinister: in this harvest day... Message-ID: <186716653@spray.se> Oh, hello sinister! I just realised that I´ve made a major mishearing on I fought in a war; I sang: Keep your head down, pal there´s trouble plenty in this harvest day i can´t see hope i can´t see light when it´s supposed to be: keep your head down, pal there´s trouble plenty in this hour, this day i can see hope i can see light. i didn´t remember what harvest meant. I thought of it as something very hard to do. Then I started hesitating, looked it up in my big fat dictionary and laughed my arse off, almost. Oh dear. With that kind of lyrics maybe the title should´ve been "Don´t fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant". Hee hee hee. Sorry, my bad humour again. I´ve began to think in sinister posts; I sometimes walk around and think "Wow, this is something I would like to describe to them so that they´d understand how beautiful things can be" and then I do something and forget about it. But it´s very strange. I always think of Little House on the Prairie when I hear the wrong girl. I do not know why. Or too much summer heat. It´s so wonderful, there´s so much love on sinister, so much nice people; so many people who are like ME, who won´t get tired if you sneak in a lot of B&S all the time. My friends are going absolutely raving mad. I only talk about music, or weird stuff. And I talk even more about B&S. I hope they don´t kill me. A girl from a swedish organisation against mobbin called Friends, at it was good. I thought of what I would od if I was alone every single break, all the time. I think I would be the kind of girl who would sit in her own quiet place, always to be seen with a book, a notebook and a freestyle. I would always listen to music. It´s the best way to shutting the rest of the world out. Believe me - I experienced it today actually. In a sort of weird way. When we had this little small lesson with half of our class (we´re divided into two small classes sort of) today, we were about eight boys and there was one other girl if you don´t count me. Anyway, we were working with whatever we wanted to, because we had time over; and the teacher starts calling my name. I do not notice, I am enjoying a funky strokes-track and stomping my feet lightly and kind of nodding with my head to the music. The teacher calls my name a couple of more times. I do not notice. All the boys starts to call my name. I do not notice. Kine, the other girl, poke at me, and I take off my earphones and say "eeeh" in a very dumb way. And the teacher LAUGHS madly at me and say that I am funny and that I have the music so loud that the others can hear it as well and that I have to turn down the volume. And I go "Oh, well, sure" and puts the tape back on. Kine told me after the lesson how many times they had tried to get my attention. Oops :) Do you KNOW what happened today?! IT SNOWED!!! YES!! SOME SNOW! I LOVE SNOW! Ah, I am so happy... it is so COSY and nice and snow is just the gratest ever. It became a bit warmer and it all became rainy and discusting instead, but still, it snowed, yay! I live just nearby a very big park, with a mountain in the middle of it. When I was smaller, I used to climb it which is very easy, and sit there, looking at the sunsets. I have som pictures of it. Maybe I´ll put them up sometime. Last winter I got so delirious that I put on my bibig earphones that I usually just use when I´m at home because they´re so ugly, and I had a hat over them, and then I dressed up warmly and I went out and the white, thick, glimmering snow, and I danced to the music, I danced like mad. I could just fall down if I wanted to, a soft fall, oh it was so lovely. I took pictures then too. I like taking pictures. But I´m always so delirious so they always turn out quite bad. But still. I have a picture of me laying in the snow, I look sulky but that was because I was so tired of smiling in every single photo. I think I´ll put it up as well. Oh, my schoolfoto will be up too. It´s phototime, yay! I am the antimobbing-pal in my class together with Anna. Not that someone ever comes and say "Well, I am getting harrassed" which is a shame because It could make a difference, but I don´t know. You go to a meeting once in a while, talk a bit, you get a free ice cream of your choise in the school cafeteria every spring. Tomorrow will be grate; since I and Anna are the one´s from our class, we don´t have to go to school tomorrow! Because the anti-mobbing organisation friends are having an all-day training for us! YAY! There´s been a lot of talk about B&S songs, and especially Judy & the dream of horses. My view on this is: Stuart sings about a girl he used to know, a girl who always would cheer him up and who always was his bestest friend, but then Judy changed and they got distant. And he tried to be like the boys that she had come to like, he was willing to try, but he wasn´t really sure he could be like them. And then, as an adult, he looks back at it and sing about it. Kind of. Oh, everyone had really good one´s. Mine is NOT good. Oh, yes, I wanted to tell you; I´ve designed a very fast-made homepage for my band!! http://brightenyeah.cjb.net brighten.cjb.net was already taken, cause we are named brighten because that´s what we want to do, so i just put in a silly little yeah. don´t forget the guestbook now. Let me just remind you again that this was something I made very quickly, so the design is not the best. altough our logo is there. yup. I have to go down lots of stairs to get down to the houses where I live. And today, and yesterday, I´ve danced along, spinned around, taking little funny steps, skipping, doing very strange little jumps right up in the air and funny wiggles with my arms to the music I´ve been listening to. Yesterday during the steps it was Le Pastie De La Borugeoisie and today it was Ooberman - Shorley Walls. I LOVE that song: It´s so gorgeous. Ah, I´m listening to If you´re feeling sinister at the moment, It´s my favourite album with B&S. I´ve started the most unnecessary collection of all time; getting all of the b&S-things on vinyl. NERDISH. I have This is just a modern rocksong and Jonathan David, I´ve seen Fold.. and I can tell you, that cinyl was MADE for me wanting it. Ah. I have to sleep now. Here are the links to the stuff I´ve been talking about: Me on this years schoolfoto (up on public demand, hahaha): http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/astridschool.jpg The sunset I like to watch, the view is amazing but it´s like 50 000 times more beautiful in real life. it seems dark and cold on these pictures. oh what the hell: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/aroomwithaview.html Kärlek to you all, Astrid x P.S "in this harvest day"... isn´t there a limit for how stupid you can get? _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 02:26:15 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 21:26:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Chicago get together!!! Message-ID: Calling all Chicago area Sinisters!! Who's up for a get together? Maybe an afternoon at the art instituite or something similar and then a bit of dinner and maybe a drink or three? I owe Elise a visit soon and I was hoping we could hook up a sinister get together. Next weekend might be a bit soon for some people, as some of us may need to ask for the day off work or what not, and the next weekend is thanksgiving weekend, which I'm sure will keep us all busy. That leaves the last weekend in November, which makes that saturday December 1st. That gives us time to make arraingements and the weather shouldn't be too harsh yet. So what do people think? Write the list or drop me a line. Oh, apologies to people I owe emails to. I'm feeling a bit crap this week, but I'll get back to you all soon. Shouts out to the C-town crew, and special shouts to Elise, Sean, the lovely Llew, and a "meepmeep" to the sinister noodle goddess. Hope to see some of you soon. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 03:09:43 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 22:09:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: chu's floundering days are showered Message-ID: Non-list inspired funny: My brother used to hang a pair of panty hose over his fireplace before Christmas. He said all he ever wanted was for Santa to fill them. Things that have been said here recently that I really adored: (At the risk of sampling Ms. Fruity booty) 1) Something will come along, it did for me and I'm useless, not useless, just used less. Than other people who are used more. Hmmm 2) I reckon Judy is a tart. She's dreaming of horses, but horses are known for one thing - having enormous wedding tackle. 3) ..A girl called Stephanie who once blamed me when it Was discovered that an anonymous mittened finger had Printed "Stephanie is a whore" in the frost on the classroom window. I hadn't done it, but after finding the word in the dictionary during The lunch break, I secretly wished that I had. Kristen Kenyon rocks. I love her writing style. Hats of to all of you, actually! Top 5 songs I've enjoyed hearing today: 1) Heard it through the grapevine-the Slits 2) Seeming and the Meaning-Stereolab 3) Draining the pool for you-Go-betweens 4) The boy with the Arab Strap-Belle and Sebastian (drive to this!) 5) Mexican Radio-Wall of Voodoo Bit of an old school day for me. I've been ripping every CD in sight around my house, So I can pack all of those jeweled things up and box them away. The art of the winamp mix has been taking over my love for the mix tape! For shame! Viva my hard drive! Speaking of such, anyone know of any good sites not based on the napster or morpheus or audio galaxy, et al, set up that are good for sharing? My current favorite is filepile.org. They don't have lots. It's a smaller operation, but some hidden-unfound-elsewhere-gems lurk within. Once you upload a file there, it only stays 13 days. Jus' so ya know. Please note: I'm actually using capitalization correctly in this post. This does not happen often. I have to be in the mood. Tonight, once I'm home from work, I plan to peruse my vinyl For the perfect songs for my Rachel's mix. Awwww Yeah... Fuck Chu if you don't think I'll blow his mind. Tee hee. I just received and read Andre's MWDAO choreography! Wow, what fun friends to have! You guys, if I had money, I would be all over that Belfast gig. Alas, I have none. So, if you know any grooV boys with money looking to be sugardaddy to a grooV Belle and Sebastian fan, look no further. I am yr girl. Oh, SIGH, I'm hopeless, no? Oh dear, I wanted to make a long and beautiful post this eve, but It's time for me to focus on winding up here at work. If I don't send this now, I prolly won't post for awhile, so I best git get got now. Wishes for enormous wedding tackle to you all, Amy! Apple! Long! Core! Rachel! Apple! Jacks! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Thu Nov 8 03:20:01 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (Andre Enrico Ciriaco Alessi) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:20:01 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: in this harvest day... In-Reply-To: <186716653@spray.se> References: <186716653@spray.se> Message-ID: <1005276001.3beb4b61b63cb@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> Quoting Astrid Wiezell : > Oh, hello sinister! > > I just realised that I´ve made a major mishearing on I fought in a war; > > P.S "in this harvest day"... isn´t there a limit for how stupid you can > get? I can beat that one by a mile. I was listening to Different Class by Pulp the other day, after a long break of about three or four years, and when "Misshapes" came on, I realised I'd forgotten the lyrics. So, I was trying my best to figure out what ol' Jarvis was talking about, especially once he got to that dang catchy chorus bit: We want cheese buns, We want cheese scones, We'll use the one thing we've got more of That's our minds..... Oh, that crazy Cocker guy! Always throwing in non sequiteurs to prove how absurd the world is! Then, while looking through the CD booklet for the lyrics to "Disco 2000" to write up on my wall, I glanced at those for "Misshapes", just casually..... We won't use guns, We won't use bombs, We'll use the one thing we've got more of That's our minds..... "Cheese buns"???? "Cheese scones"!?!?!?! Now THAT is stupidity. Cunning Andre +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 06:32:49 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:32:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the peanut gallery called. they want their elephant back Message-ID: hi everyone. did you miss me? tons and tons im sure. i was sans internet access for 8 days. what a hellacios endeavor that was. oi vey. pardon me for not reading all of your lovely posts but i had 403 new mails in my box...none of which were spam. well, near the end i just started deleting. nothing personal. i will email all of you who emailed me off list as soon as i can get motivated enough to do so. the past couple of weeks have found me sooooooo busy with school that i think im going to spontaneously combust! film editing is not my forte...in fact...i LOATHE it. oh well...damn pre-req's. i got specs this week. i only need them for reading.....did you guys know your head isnt supposed to pulsate while reading? i never knew till i got my specs and that stopped happening. :o) i also had a lovely evening of shopping with my friend solomon who i adore. i bought a new coat....its so PUNK ROCK! very rock star-esque. when i wear it i feel like at least 20 bucks :o) speaking of which...tom in london i do NOT look like pollyanna! for those of you who are not tom in london, i sent him a scan of me in a punkin patch....to which he replied "you are positively adorable! you look like pollyanna or something." and that is a direct quote. didnt pollyanna harvest wheat or something? i dunno. anyway. chicago would be swell. i do believe the last weekend of november/first weekend of december works with my schedule. ill have to contact my people to make sure though. :o) anyway. i hope this finds all of you well and happy and wealthier than i. talk to you soon. "We are all worms, but I do believe I am a glow worm." ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Fri Nov 9 05:06:13 2001 From: adevens at xxx.edu (Arik Devens) Date: 08 Nov 2001 21:06:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Seattle, and everything else In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i went out today, it had been so long i'd almost forgotten how, all i did was get a haircut and take the bus home, didn't even take it there as my mom drove me. but it was enough to remind me what exactly i have been missing cooped up in my parents house for the past 2 months. i haven't posted in ages and ages, since june 14th in fact, mostly because i'm not a very good writer. now i'm not saying that in an attempt to get sympathy from anyone, i'm just not a very good writer. something about writing things down never works for me, i'm much better at speaking, all my thoughts get muddled up and boring when i try to put them on paper or in this case email. i'm watching the first night of the new live-action tick show. not as good as the old cartoon certainly but funny anyway, can't see it going all that far though. certainly i don't want to resist the buttery toast of justice though. mmm. toast. yummy. oh. erin. if you are still reading this, i live in seattle too :-) so at least there is one more sinistereen here. so um... alot has happened since i last posted, i went to popfantasy, met some sinister types. broke up with my gf :-( and am now in back in seattle at my parents house slowly dying of boredom. oh and btw, i totally suck, rachel playforth you sent me a tape AGES and AGES ago and i love it and i never thanked you :-( so THANK YOU, it's lovely. i've fallen in love with XTRMNTR by primal scream and perfect lovesong by the divine comedy. oh and december by teenage fanclub. thank you gav and nic. temptation island has to be the single stupidest idea for a television show of all time. i mean really, why would ANYONE go on this show. why would anyone watch this show. why would anyone cheat on this show. totally, totally, stupid. click, that said elimidate makes reality tv worthwhile for me. i've lost whatever point i was originally trying to express, maybe if i post regularly i will slowly develop some sort of idea of what i'm trying to say. certainly never reaching the hights of a laura llew or a kirsten marie kenyon though. ah well, some of us were meant to be writers and some readers i think. arik garr! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 10:13:54 2001 From: christopher.leonard1 at xxx.com (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:13:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: in this harvest day... Message-ID: <20011109101354.ITHM18177.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.61]> Hello my names Christopher, it's funny talking of mishearings Keith was over the other day and he thought that "Waking Up to Us" went "you need a man who's EAT THE RICH or losing a screw". You know, like Motorhead. COME ON BABY EAT THE RICH PUT THE BITE ON THE SON OF A BITCH And Julia thought that Stuart Lee Murdoch sings "I can even find it in my heart to LOVE MY GLOVE", instead of "love Mike Love" in the car song. She looked shocked, said "that's really rude" and started giggling. I bet he has leather gloves. from Chris ==================== www.sleekasounds.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 13:24:02 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 05:24:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the peanut gallery called, they want their elephant back Message-ID: hi everyone. did you miss me? tons and tons im sure. i was sans internet access for 8 days. what a hellacios endeavor that was. oi vey. pardon me for not reading all of your lovely posts but i had 403 new mails in my box...none of which were spam. well, near the end i just started deleting. nothing personal. i will email all of you who emailed me off list as soon as i can get motivated enough to do so. the past couple of weeks have found me sooooooo busy with school that i think im going to spontaneously combust! film editing is not my forte...in fact...i LOATHE it. oh well...damn pre-req's. i got specs this week. i only need them for reading.....did you guys know your head isnt supposed to pulsate while reading? i never knew till i got my specs and that stopped happening. :o) i also had a lovely evening of shopping with my friend solomon who i adore. i bought a new coat....its so PUNK ROCK! very rock star-esque. when i wear it i feel like at least 20 bucks :o) speaking of which...tom in london i do NOT look like pollyanna! for those of you who are not tom in london, i sent him a scan of me in a punkin patch....to which he replied "you are positively adorable! you look like pollyanna or something." and that is a direct quote. didnt pollyanna harvest wheat or something? i dunno. anyway. chicago would be swell. i do believe the last weekend of november/first weekend of december works with my schedule. ill have to contact my people to make sure though. :o) anyway. i hope this finds all of you well and happy and wealthier than i. talk to you soon. "We are all worms, but I do believe I am a glow worm." ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Nov 9 11:38:08 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:38:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Build a man a fire, and you'll keep him warm for an hour. Set a m an on fire, and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life. Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058FF6@PIKACHU> OK, probably nothing you don't know already, but this has appeared on the B&S website: ------------------------------------------- BELLES PLAY BELFAST We're pleased to announce details of Belle and Sebastian's first trip to Northern Ireland. (Bobby is particularly pleased) 21st December - Mandela Hall, Belfast Support from The Frames Tickets: £16.50 + Booking fee Available from all Ticketmaster outlets in Northern Ireland and Queens Student Union All money goes to You're Kidding, raising money for the NSPCC toys at Christmas campaign A limited amount of tickets, including coach travel from Dublin, will be released in the Republic of Ireland next week. Check back here on Tuesday for details ------------------------------------------- So now it's time to start a campaign to get them to do a cover of "Fairytale of New York", which is still the greatest Christmas song E!V!E!R!. Playing a gig just to raise money so they can buy some toys - how dare people say B&S are twee? So none of you know what korfball is. What a surprise. Rachel Fruitloop even said "Big Stu, korfball sounds like something that Gordon Schumway would play. You know, ALF? Alien Life Form? No problem? Ate cats? Ring a bell?". And I have absolutely no idea what she was talking about. But still, if anyone is interested, or just plain bored, you can find out about the other interest in my life by going to www.nottingham.freewebspace.com; which is the website of my korfball club. There's also lots of bad photos of me on there, but I'm not telling you where. It's a great site, because I write it. And, as has been pointed out, I am vain. I've been walking round all week with a great big plaster on my chin after my trip to hospital last weekend. One person, who shall remain nameless (principally because I don't know his name), asked if the plaster was because I'd had plastic surgery. What is he saying? Does he think I need to? Meanwhile, I've been spending most of the week with "The Story Of The Blues" my The Mighty Wah on my headphones, which may well be one of my favourite ten songs of all time. I think I may have gone too far though, it's started appearing as the soundtrack to my dreams. I think I need help. Of course, those who have followed my posts with interest will know that when mentioning good music, I won't be able to resist talking about the Whitlams; and you should all go to Audiogalaxy and download their song "I Make Hamburgers", or "You Sound Like Louis Burdett". And then buy ten copies of each of their albums, in the hope that a few sales might persuade them to play some gigs on this side of the world. Come to think of it, those of you who have followed my posts with interest should probably get out more. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 13:26:09 2001 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: 9 Nov 2001 13:26:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle English National Opera Message-ID: <20011109132609.22152.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Nov 9 14:08:48 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:08:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: "A woman's voice on the radio can convince you you're in love. A woman's voice on the telephone can convince you you're alone." Message-ID: <20011109140848.75979.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> First person to correctly identify the source of the subject line will win... um something... oh I don't know.. a signed photo of me. I'll expect the entries to flood in then. That was a short lurk then. I tried to stay away and do constructive things but once I'd cleaned the flat I was at a bit of a loss. Then I saw the list was falling apart without me: People were talking about B&S gigs, disproportionate amounts of attention were being lavished on some bloke called Chu and to cap it all, I WASN'T GETTING MENTIONED IN ANY OF RACHEL FRUITLOOP'S POSTS. Clearly it was time to act. Better make this a good one then... Ken said: "This morning I was waking up to us..uss..us..ushoo! ...Bogey everywhere type affair" Much like myelf over the past few days. Being Ill's great when you're a kid and crap when you're a grown-up. You have to make your own lemsips, apply your own Vicks Vapo-Rub and unless you're can't-get-out-of-bed sick you still go work 'cos it sounds crap writing 'a touch of the sniffles' on the sick form. Neil said: "There ain't nothing happening in London" Which was a bit of a sweeping statement. Or does the place go dead in the winter? The Belfast gig sounds fantastic but too far and too costly for me. What a top idea to blow the proceeds on toys for the kids! Or is it just an excuse to go on a massive bender in a toy shop and have water gun fights on skateboards up the aisles? It was bloody freezing this morning! Not snowed yet here in the milder climate of the south coast but I reckon we could be in for one of those pretty pink-skied, snow-dusted winters like you got when you were a kid. You know - the magical ones that make everything like Narnia. But more cold. Pink skies and Ken Chus Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyebrown at xxx.com Fri Nov 9 21:07:11 2001 From: lucyebrown at xxx.com (lucyebrown) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:07:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You must be the change you wish to see in the world Message-ID: <008a01c16962$80d8fc20$f3bd28d5@q5v5f5> Hello RobertB - Piece Of Dirt - They Might Be Giants (you wouldn't believe how much I want that photo) : ) Everyone always declares their fruitloop inclusions, so here's my "yay - i got a mention" (no, really, I made it, I was welcomed) Also, I would like to announce my not-so-sinister love for Alan Anyhoo, I almost don't feel worthy to take up people's reading time when Ken is posting , so I'll keep this one (like all the others) short...just wanted to win rob's pic Lucy with love xxx www.go.to/periwinkle As Mort scrambled behind the ornate silver saddle Death leaned down and shook Lezek's hand. THANK YOU, he said. 'He's a good lad at heart,' said Lezek. 'A bit dreamy, that's all. I suppose we were all young once.' Death considered this. NO, he said, I DON'T THINK SO. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 00:36:42 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:36:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: getting scared Message-ID: <21168367.1005352602280.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. i'm scared to say that another evil friday night has fallen, and i am again alone in a computer lab with only the sound of these small squarish keys to comfort me whilst keeping me company. sigh. at this very moment, half of myself is writing this and reading posts, and the other half is in #sinister. i feel very ensconced in sinister at the moment, but not very sinister. i realize i easily recognize people's names and nicknames, their writing styles, maybe a fact or two from a post or quip from aunt sadie. and then. and then. i don't know anyone, really, excepting the kind few i have conversed long with, and i always wish that few could be more and the time spent longer. but wait. here's ken, maybe the night is getting brighter... sinister and #sinister, i have decided, must surely make up my utopia. everyone gets along (for the most part). some of us fall in love with each other. and happy music plays all the time. though part of me wishes i could be more popular in sinister land, and that i could meet some of you all. and part of me wonders who ever thought i'd be sitting here typing to hundreds of names that will never have faces in my mind. telling all my secrets and whatnot. hm. the llovely miss llaura llew just entered the room, and mass chaos ran to her. everyone loves you, my dear. :) this typing observations of what goes on in words in the little box on the screen next to this one is odd, so i'll post something a bit more content-y now. today i got up, and realizing i had no class, put on my long red jacket and decided to buy music. i went to the downtown music store i always go to here in lincoln, and noticed a little poster for a live radiohead relese. mental note. then, upon entry, i went straight to the indie section, but not before i was greeted by this lovely looking twee boy worker. i had never seen him before, but soon he and i were gushing about mercury rev, sigur ros, the reindeer section. i didn't have the reindeer section. (misslou pauses for the collective gasp of horror to cease) and this boy made sure i bought it. i rather liked the authoritative way he walked me to each item he thought good and put it in my hand. probably to sell it, yes, but then. i was shopping alone and he was delicious. so. we talked of the strokes. and apparently i must get the import version as well, so. he's going to let me know when that comes in, and believe me, i'll be there all decked out in some finery to brush his hand as he takes the money from mine...ahhh. nothing better than crushes on music store boys. another pulling tip from me: work in a music store, write music reviews, play in a band. these are all sure-fire ways to get a girl's attention, and, if you happen to be in a band, well. look out if i'm around. and i'm taking a moment to round out this way less that fabulous post to send props to all the happy people in sinister and #sinister. to fruityloop rachel for always mentioning me. and to my dearheart. oh, the secrecy of acknowledging people without names in what sounds uncannily enough like a valley girl academy award acceptance speech. misslindseylou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 02:18:58 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 21:18:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I was talking to peachy-peach about kissy-kiss Message-ID: Ahh, the weekend at last. Been a long bloody week, and a fairly boring one to boot. On the positive side of things, this week has seen the return of stine (PUNK ROCK!), the planning of a sinister Chicago picnic the last weekend ni november/first weekend in December (I think that makes the planned date December 1st, but I'm too lazy at the moment to be bothered to get up and find a calender), and a long and lovely post from Miss Fruitloop herself. I'm listening to the Reindeer Section at the moment. They're not bad, nothing earth-shattering, but still lovely. I think "Will you please be there" is the real stand out for me, gorgeously simple song. I won another person over to B&S this week by playing them "There's too Much Love" and "Woman's Realm", they thought both were ace and called B&S "light, summery pop music", and I suppose that's as good a description as any, especially since they're moving much more into the realm of summery, 60's mellow-pop. Whatever you call it, I like it. I've been listening to the Strokes, they're a bit shit aren't they? Put a bit of Velvet Underground, Television, and the Stooges in a blender, and viola! You get a so-so band getting a balzacing amount of press. Check the clock, has it been 15 minutes yet? A friend summed them up as; "Skinny NY kids playing skinny NY kid songs", and that decription amused me. I think I'm coming down a bit sick, I had a horrible headache all day yesterday that got to the point where it'd literally blind me if I turned my head too fast. Lovely little bursts of light dancing in front of my eyes. It would have been fun except for the accompanying spikes being driven into my frontal lobe. Thankfully, my dad had some vicodin laying about which I stole and four pills and two hours later the pounding stopped and I had a nice long nap. As typed this I've switched over to listening to Lamb, not bad at all, picked them up on a recommendation and I'm happy so far. I had a bit of political garbage written, then I went and deleted it because I didn't really feel like ranting about what a gigantic cock Attorney General Ashcroft is (Jim waves to the nice Homeland Security Gestapo reading this if the NSA Echelon software gets tripped). Anyways, I not sure, but I think my headache stems from overhearing a conversation while me and my friends were out to eat a few days ago. Out of the blue I hear a rather loud, obnoxious bloke at the next table say; "And I told him, if he didn't learn how to suck the salt off his celery, there was no way he was going to get that promotion" I really wanted to turn around and ask the fellow what the hell the context was for that remark, instead I kept quiet and that phrase bounced around in my head all night. I'm sure I probably don't want to know the context of that remark. I've been hanging about #sinister a little, but to be honest, I've never liked internet chatting much. I never feel comfy chatting over text, or even email, I always feel too stiff and stodgy, and a few sinisters can confirm that I'm nothing of the sort in real life. I know I never really like how my posts come out. I'd much rather meet you all over a Red Bull and Vodka and chat about useless crap and talk shit until the early morning hours in afterhours resturants, that's where I'm in my element. So, enough with all these twee stories of love and crushes on the list, it's time to amuse me: What's the best or worst pick-up line you've ever given or recieved? Come on, share them, I'm sure you all have plenty of stories. Let's try for happy or amusing stories, but twee sad stories are acceptable as well. I think my personal favorite chat up line recieved was; "Hi! So what are the drug laws like in London?" Interesting night, that. Especially when I found out the lady in question was nearly eight years older than me (and didn't look it at all). or (another London one): "You know, you're the first guy who's talked to me for more than ten minutes without trying to get in my pants. Congradulations, you passed the test...[pause]...you can start trying to get in my pants any time now". Of course, I can't forget the girl who I was talking to on the train to Amsterdam. A good Christian girl who was over in Europe studying with a group from her Christain college. As we're nearing Amsterdam she suddenly explains her plan: Her: "I've decided I want to make out with one boy in every country" Me: "How's that working out for you?" Her: "Pretty good so far, though I don't know anyone in the Netherlands....so, what are *you* doing tonight?" God bless those repressed Christians. Worst chat up line recieved? "Hey, how drunk are you?" For the curious, I wasn't *that* drunk. I now have to watch "Will & Grace" because in addition to Elise and Sean, the girl at the local Starbucks said I look like Jack from that show "from the right angle". God knows what angle that could be, or if that's a compliment of not. Oh, I did have a few pictures of the Great Lakes Sinister Picnic. You can see one of me deep in thought at: http://server25.hypermart.net/patchworkz/pics/02_002.JPG I've one of Kirsten too but it's a bad scan, you'll all have to wait until I get access to a scanner to see a better version. Rachel Fruitloop said: "and then I'll get you, adorable Jimmy G.! Oh, I'll get you...." Eeep! And my little dog too? Not that I'd exactly struggle that hard, mind you. Ahh, but see, she said 'adorable' she must be talking about the little dog. Shouts and love to the usual suspects, you all know who you are. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 03:39:48 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:39:48 -0600 Subject: Sinister: I was talking to peachy-peach about kissy-kiss References: Message-ID: <003601c16999$9bd00aa0$62a3ecd8@default> James Gilmer Boy implored: > What's the best or worst pick-up line you've ever given or recieved? > > Come on, share them, I'm sure you all have plenty of stories. Let's try for > happy or amusing stories, but twee sad stories are acceptable as well. It happened to my sister. She was in her 1960 *purple*Chevrolet Bel-Air, waiting at a stop light near college. This man waiting on the corner for a bus (gotta watch those bus riders!) leaned down to the car window and yelled "Hey baby! Howsabout we go out Saturday night? ...for a hamburger??" She shook her head no, and then the light turned green. She started to proceed slowly... The man called out again "C'mon baby, ...banana split??" She was laughing so hard she could barely drive. Did this guy just hang out, hoping to find some hungry hot mama? She was imagining the woman who'd refuse the hamburger, yet slam on the brakes to accept the banana split offering. Dig it! Love, Lisa from Texas (aka Rachel Ranchero!! Viva Rachels!!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 04:15:38 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 04:15:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: don't you aim your spear this way! Message-ID: Ok, so it's nearly 6 a.m. and I was determined to go to sleep before the sun rose, but Jimmy Gilmer's post made me come directly here instead and run with the cheesy pick-up line thread. Oh lord. Oddly enough, today I was actually meowed at. Yes! A random boy in the street slowed down, looked directly at me, and said "Me-ow." I was confused. Was that a compliment? Was he calling me catty? Or a pussycat? Or? Coral giggled and said, "It was a CAT CALL. it was!" In that case, it was better than some of the other ones I've gotten recently. Case in point: The elderly man who could hardly walk who stopped me to ask: "Douleueis?" Which means, "Do you work?" I got all insulted and said, "Yes, of course!" He had started to walk away, but hearing this, jumped and ran back with a grin on his face. Then it all came together and I screamed NO! and ran away. See, it was his clever little way of asking me if I was a prostitute. Oh yeah. Usually, however, it's the skanky young men who dangle their wares for me so tactfully. Many of them roam the streets of Athens, trying to pick up women, especially foreigners. They have a name: Komakia, or spearfishermen. A very apt metaphor, especially considering the greek word for vagina is literally "bay of woman." Anyway, I digress. My favorite story about the komakia is that they once tried to unionize and demanded recognition and benefits from the state because, they argued, they provided an invaluable service - they bouyed up the tourism industry by enticing single European women to the country. I don't think they were successful, even with such stellar rhetoric. The rhetoric they use on the street is even better. Usually, they just talk to you in English. Not very original. But sometimes you hear some gems. My favorite was: "You break my eyes!" Um. Yeah. So complimentary. The youngest komaki I've been chatted up by seemed to be all of 8 years old. He said, in English: "Hey hot stuff." Frightening. As annoying as the komakia can be, at least they tend to limit their advances to bad pick-up lines. It's the public masturbators who trouble me. And I've had the pleasure of encountering not one or two, but at least five of these characters. Wanking off in my general direction - in parks, on beaches, in the street. Yes. Side note: i have been known to use some embarassing pick-up lines, completely unintentionally. The worst was: "Has anyone ever told you you look like a Renaissance painting?" Oh yes. I employed this gem on a boy with delicate blond curls and a harsh nose who seriously looked like he should be leaning against a desk with a dog at his feet or something. I stared at him throughout a mandatory Classics department meeting, amazed at the similarity, and thought he light like to know about it, so i chased him out of the room and bombarded him on the stairwell. His response: "That is THE strangest thing anyone has ever said to me," and he looked a bit frightened. It was only afterwards, when I proudly told my art friend what i had done, that she burst out laughing and said "that is the worst pick-up line i have ever heard!" Eeps! I was so embarassed when i realized how horrified this poor chap must have been. another time, at a party at my apartment, i was talking to a boy everyone was trying to set me up with and asked him if he liked frank sinatra, "cause i have him on in my room right now." which i did, oddly. it wasn't necessarily an invite. luckily, he didn't think so either. but my friend nearby started laughing insanely and yelled to the whole room to inform everyone about what a charmer i was. ok that's all i must go to bed now oooh btw: I GOT A TOAST MAKER today! finally! and it's shiny! also, I DID IT! i lasted a whole week without #sinister. well, not a 7-day-week but... yeah... i went out more and wrote more and..mmm..errr.. stuff... i should sleep. sun. shining. shit. MWAH! ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tobikid at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 13:48:49 2001 From: tobikid at xxx.com (Graham Henderson) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:48:49 +0900 Subject: Sinister: where's chutney?York??? Message-ID: Hi all, So anyway is anybody out there from York? I'm trying to track down an old mate from Scotland, a twee B&S type by the name of Mark 'Chutney' Tripney. Any information leading to the apprehension of the suspect will be rewarded with cheap tacky japanese novelty shop goods. If you do spot the suspect, do not under any circumstances approach him. He's from a very bad neighbourhood. Tobi- tbwthe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 14:03:39 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:03:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Exposed to the Super Furries at last Message-ID: <005401c169f0$99aec5c0$5a54893e@fallahome> Hello again everyone. What a week it's been. I had yet another Operatic Society concert in Coleraine on Thursday night (and I have to admit it went well, though the acoustics were quite bad, the place we were singing in being a hotel), three film reviews of mine got published in the student magazine at uni, and - I was finally exposed to the sound that you call the Super Furry Animals, last night. Don't ask me why they took so long to get onstage. We (that's the whole crowd, including my friends Dave and Jim) were stuck in the Nerve Centre for about two hours waiting for them, and all we had in between was someone playing his very old guitar and singing songs we didn't know. Never mind. Minor complaint. Well, now that I've heard Griff Rhys and co., I have to say that I was entertained the whole time. I've also got to admit it was the weirdest concert I've ever been to. It wasn't as good as Ash last year (probably cos I knew no songs) or JJ72 (probably cos they don't have a cute bassist) but it was still a lot of fun. What I liked most was the way they played all their videos on background screens while the band themselves were playing. Some cheeky quotes came up on those screens too (I'm not at liberty to say what they were). At one point we had Schwarzenegger on screen repeating the same thing over and over again. Zzzzzz.... I liked Rings Around The World, the one about the Presidents (I forget its name) and Run Christian Run. And also a few others. I also met a lot of people. This guy called Dermot is one of the few people I know (my friend Jim aside) who can claim to know as much about The Divine Comedy as I do. When I finally get my website up he'll understand what I'm saying. Then there was my old friend from school, Alana. Great to see her again. She's looking prettier than ever. As for the others, I'll probably forget them by next week. TDC's last ever gig in Belfast is the same night as my Millennium Forum concert for the Operatic Society. Not good. However, I will be going to see B & S in December (when my workload has gone down). Right, time for me to get back to work. (No notes to people this time, sorry). Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.lynch at xxx.com Sat Nov 10 21:05:45 2001 From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Lynch) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:05:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: winter draws on Message-ID: You step outside, in your thick coat, buttoned up so that you feel like a little girl, like Maggie Simpson in her snow-suit, your hands in wooly gloves and realise that the year is almost at an end. the wind chills your face and steals breath and two after two minutes outside you have to press your tongue to the top of your mouth to stop your teeth chattering. Chattering teeth make you feel colder. You try to walk faster to get warm, but your legs aren't having any of it. Your muscles have been sore all day, due to the fact that last night you slept curled up in a curled in a ball, because to stretch out a leg meant leaving the only warm part of the bed. It's the time of the year when the main reason you want a man in your life, in your bed is to steal his body heat. Ah well, you think, at least there's Christmas to look forward to, and the Sinister Christmas Exchange perhaps? I want to add my voice to Chris Pez's plea to bring back the Christmas Exchange. Last year I joined the list a couple of weeks after the deadline, but I thought it was the most charming idea ever. So much so that I mentioned it in my first post, at the end of January. Please can we do it again. Gr�inne. PS Does anyone want to come to one of the last ever Divine Comedy gigs with me, in Dublin's Olympia Theatre on Monday 19th? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reiving at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 07:23:14 2001 From: reiving at xxx.com (paisley christina) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:23:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: monochrome in the 1990's Message-ID: Quite a while ago, in the early summer ...there was a Sinister debate about indie kids. And someone said that Nick Hornby wrote that it wasn't what you were like, the thing that mattered was what (books, films, records) you liked. And that may have been true in the "High Fidelity" film. But in the book, when his Laura girl gets back together with him...she takes him to meet some of her friends. And he likes them. And she shows him their records: Tina Turner, Simply Red, horrors etc. And he still decides he won't look down on them. Because it *really* is *not* what you like that's important after all. I had to clear Hornby's name of that. Though I still think Penny was treated abominably. My favorite from the book: "The whole episode defies any rational explanation. But all these things happened, and they happened again, most of them, the following evening, and then evening after that." About the first girl who kisses him, specifically. But the sentiment can be applied quite broadly and aptly. To me, if no one else. "We can still see you, you know." I'm studying English & Philosophy during the day, working at the student radio station at night, and working in a department store on weekends. I was dancing because I was happy. There was just the store music, and no customers around. And I was getting cold. And I already spent the morning draped in melancholy. So my manager called me on the register phone and told me to quit that dancing. She called a couple of times, every time she caught me on camera. But my joy was "not to be daunted!" It would be pretty cool to be written up for dancing on the job. Anyway, the customers who did see me seemed to enjoy my kinetic interpretations. "Dance Fucker Dance" indeed. Right. On. I'm having my own little electronic renaissance, and all are welcome to join. Dancing in public is the next best thing to being naked. In public. Also a long time ago. Robin wrote about egg cups. And a birthday balloon bursting on the ceiling. Those beautiful images are still in my head. Thank you. Douglas Coupland came to speak at a bookstore, where I was curled up on the floor with my chin on my knees to hear this soft, thoughtful hero of mine speak. One thing he said was that only 20% of people actually get irony. Terrifyingly, then, the other 80% must be taking everything literally. Boo! It ends my first post. --paisley _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 10:11:17 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:11:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: As Real As It May Seem Message-ID: <20011111101117.19768.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> At the turn of our century - no, start again, at the turn of the previous century, W.B. Yeats went to see A Doll's House: '"Art is art because it is not nature", I kept repeating to myself, but how could I take the same side with critic and washerwoman?'. Imagine sitting next to him. You wouldn't be able to make out much of the dialogue, with WBY mumbling about art vs nature the whole time. I hope she slammed the door good and hard. A semi-wise man once advised me to keep walking past open windows (I think that was how he phrased it). I trust that the lad Gillanders is doing the same. Mind you, the windows are not so high in Glasgow. Except the ones from which the Care Bear regards her domain, the city of the living, the city of the dead. The lad G was talking recently about all the books he'd read, and I can't say his taste was bad. Far from it. Let me advise him not to go back to D.H. Lawrence. It's not worth it. It may *sound* like a good idea, but it's actually a very bad idea. I wonder what Scotland is like for New Year's Eve. I really do. Youn talked a while ago about what a certain line in 'Judy and the Dream of Horses' meant ('Judt I don't know you if you're gonna show me everything'). It was ingenious stuff. My own reading is: he 'wrote' the line spontaneously, happy enough to get something rhythmic, while he chugged away oan his wee guitarr. The Sense didn't come till later, when you did him the service of putting it there. I was cheered to see Edna Welthorpe back in the mists of space, a while back, talking about the way that the pinefox's endless repetitions are a mirror image of Lloyd Cole's. I wonder whether anyone else has a view on this line of Simon Reynolds': 'Demystification just kinda took the mystery out of everything'. Is it a joke, very poor writing, or - in between the two - a very poor joke? This reminds me of the story that Simon Reynolds has been buying up old 80s music papers - just think about that for a moment - and of the Saturday night programme Forever 1989. Actually it was Forever 1988 the first time I saw it, whihc was, whisper it, even better. It reminded me of how I've *always* liked Debbie Gibson. I must remember to use that as a bargaining chip in my next crockery-throwing pop argument with my editor. Also featured: Taylor Dayne, 'Give It To My Heart' (unforgettable); Climie Fisher, '...' (I've forgotten already); Jane Wiedlin, 'Rush Hour' (look, here's another bargaining fish. I've *always* loved that record, ever since going to watch Paul Gascoigne lose a boot on his home league debut and hearing it on the tannoy); T Vamp, 'I Want Your Love' (I have always wanted to see more than 5 seconds of that video); Primitives, 'Crash' (I think we've said all there is to say about this record, Elton); Morrissey, 'Suedehead' for goodness' sake. I have a feeling that I know the narrator of the programme. 'Know' is an exaggeration. Mr Moore sometimes comes on and talks about how good new bands are. In his absence let me report back that I, like most folk round here, saw the Red & White Stripes on TV the other day. They looked good. The concept - yes, that was good. But I can't quite stretch to saying they *sounded* good. I think Peter Miller has been reading the archives. Are you glad? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 10:19:02 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:19:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Benicassim Review Message-ID: <000001c16a9a$4d428f00$a8bf7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, I realise there's a flood of posts all excited about the rare prospect of another Belle And Sebastian gig so I'll keep this one very brief. On the Segundosdeluz list dear maria amélie p/Maria Sierra posted a link to a review & photos of B&S @ Benicassim, so for the benfit of all of you, here it is: http://www.frequencerock.com/articles/view.php?id=152 its in French but I'm sure that you'll figure out what it all means. I only had to go for the dictionary twice. Some nice close ups of Struan. (I *know* who's hitting that link now!) Camera Obscura album's out tomorrow ... And they play 2 gigs in London during December, one supported by Chris Leonard (nice to hear from you again Chris, its been too long since you posted here) Regards, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 12:53:53 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:53:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Sinister Road Trip Message-ID: if anybody is looking for ideas for a road trip, here's a perfect one. a prize to anybody who supplies me with photographic evidence that they have undertaken such an arduous task. Route Summary Origination: Belle, West Virginia [38.14N 81.32W] Destination: Sebastian, Florida [27.50N 80.29W] Route Distance: 839 miles Route Driving Time: 12:55 0 0:00 Starting Trip Start East on I-64 I-77 for 49mi 41 0:37 Approaching Vicinity of Beckley WV 49 0:44 Junction With I-77 Turn South on I-77 for 30mi Cont. South on I-77 for 274mi 88 1:17 Entering Virginia 109 1:37 Approaching Vicinity of Wytheville VA 156 2:20 Entering North Carolina 242 3:33 Approaching Vicinity of Charlotte NC 262 3:52 Entering South Carolina 268 3:57 Approaching Vicinity of Rock Hill SC 329 4:55 Approaching Vicinity of Columbia SC 353 5:21 Junction With I-26 Turn East on I-26 for 53mi 406 6:10 Junction With I-95 Turn South on I-95 for 426mi 493 7:29 Entering Georgia 503 7:40 Approaching Vicinity of Savannah GA 605 9:15 Entering Florida 617 9:25 Approaching Vicinity of Jacksonville FL 670 10:15 Approaching Vicinity of St Augustine FL 832 12:40 Junction With Rt 512 Turn East on Rt 512 for 6mi 839 12:55 Ending at: US 1 & Rt 512 erm.. god i'm bored Pez* P.S. Nice to see some familiar faces returning to the sinister fold. Welcome home Owen 'The Narrow Wizard' Lowery and Lisa 'List Dom' Morrison. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Nov 11 12:46:11 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:46:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Returning, We Hear the Larks Message-ID: <001c01c16aae$db594900$7e62253e@itjfvkli> I'd like to begin by welcoming myself back after another spell in the archives. The reason I am back is because it has always been my ambition to post on the same day as both Pinefox and Big Dave. And because there's a JAPANESE TOUR coming up. Thank you to Big Dave and Genvieve for Reporting Back so beautifully a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember what it was about, but it was good. I haven't got much to Report Back on. Those 'In the Studio' photos were good. I particularly liked the one of Mike Hurst sidling along the curve of the piano in an Isobelly direction. You'd have thought the string players would have got dressed up for the occasion. The ones on 'Ocean Rain' got dressed up, I think. I can't quite remember. There was a photo on the inner sleeve. Can anyone help? But then again, in those days, string sections were a thing of the past. Now they are so common it gives you lockjaw just thinking about it. I'm glad they were up-front about Sam Fox. She had been unfairly airbrushed out of the equation earlier on. And let's face it, she had massive knockers. I recommend the film 'JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK'. I have written a poem in the style of LLOYD COLE: Isabelle Huppert Went to the cupboard To fetch Norman Mailer A bone. When she got back, He'd gone. As you can see, the first stanza is in the style of early LLOYD COLE, while the second stanza is more in keeping with the DON'T GET WEIRD ON ME, BABE period. I'm really looking forward to a rash of Reporting Back from Japan. Sod Belfast. I wonder what appropriate songs B&S will cover in Japan? Some achingly hip J-Pop? And in Belfast? I don't know any groups from Belfast. This month is the last 'chance' to read stuff that has already appeared in the now legendary Papercuts at http://www.badosa.com There have been one or two changes, but it suffers dreadfully from not being sandwiched between a Caleb Rudd interview and Lucy Alder's top tips. It would be good if Papercuts came back, I think. I think it's good that the new PINK FLOYD compilation finishes with BIKE, too. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 15:52:35 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:52:35 Subject: Sinister: Who are The Strokes? Message-ID: Hello there Sinister. The week has been dull, but I feel obliged to post, since my name has cropped up twice. Mummy I've Grazed My Knee called me a Stud Muffin. I can't deny this enough - I merely have **friends** who are **girls**. Perhaps R. Fruitloop's analysis of me being followed around by "rats with boobies" is closer to the truth. Then again, being a Stud Muffin isn't exactly a bad thing, is it? On Friday night I deejayed at an Indie night, accompanied by various nefarious members of the York Sinister Massive. It was fun, and capped off my a conversation that I had with one blissfully ignorant punter: HER: Play something I know - this is shit. ME: That's mighty open-minded off you. Okay then, what are you after? HER: Ash? ME: We just played Kung-Fu. What else are you into? HER: Muse? ME: Sorry, they're shit. None of us have any of their records. How about some Kenickie or something like that? HER: I've never heard of them. Have you got any Limp Bizkit? ME: No. HER: Play something I know. ME: Okay then, we'll be playing some Strokes later. How about that? HER: Who are The Strokes? I thought I'd never hear that sentence spoken at an indie night. Ah well - blissful ignorance. Perhaps she'll be the best to gauge how good they are, because she's obviously been living under a large rock for the last year, totally oblivious to the hype. Anyway, that was all. The message for this post is: Asm is not a Stud Muffin. He might be, but generally he's not. love Asm.x P.S. Graham Henderson asked if there were York people on the list. There's a veritable Massive, Graham, operating under the moniker, "York Sinister Masssive" (YSM), consisting of at least six of us, and a fine Massive it is too. ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 16:53:34 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:53:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The bus has left the station Message-ID: Ken Kesey died yesterday. Fuck. Kesey was one of my high school heroes, and his books; "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and "Sometimes a Great Nation" had a deep effect on me during my teenage years. The book that Tom Wolfe wrote about Kesey and his Merry Pranksters, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test", had a staggering amount of influence on me when I was younger. In 1964, with Neal Cassady (also the hero of "On the Road") and the rest of his band of Merry Pranksters, Kesey (with Neal at the wheel) drove cross-country in an old school bus named Further, seeking enlightenment in LSD and trying to open the minds of others as well. I'm sure many of you read the novels, most of you probably saw the movie that was made of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", a movie Kesey hated because it took the point of view away from the character of the schizophrenic Indian, Chief Bromden. Now, the 60's are looked back on with either a condesending nostalgia, or as the butt of a joke (look at those silly hippies!!), but the truth of most of the 60's is far from tie-dyes and flower children. For all their flaws, the heroes of the 60's believed in a better world, and they believed in a greater freedom, and it's a shame the world just passed on by that dream. They did do great things though, the Civil Rights movement, the women's rights movement, helping to turn public opinion against a corrupt war and a corrupt goverment, and they laid the seeds of rebellion and hope and jump started a stagnant culture. One generation did that in the span of ten years, not a bad record at all. I really feel like just going and making up a 'special' batch of kool-aid in tribute to one of the greats, but instead I'll just tip a glass to the memory of the Pranksters tonight and say a toast for Kesey and all the old Merry rebels. Ken Babbs, Kesey best friend, said it best: "A great good friend and great husband and father and grand dad, he will be sorely missed but if there is one thing he would want us to do it would be to carry on his life's work. Namely to treat others with kindness and if anyone does you dirt forgive that person right away. This goes beyond the art, the writing, the performances, even the bus. Right down to the bone." Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 19:49:21 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:49:21 -0800 Subject: Sinister: writers, obessesion, and a wee bit of arsenic Message-ID: hi everyone. i hope you are all feeling sinister. jim im sorry to hear one of your heroes passed. ive actually never read one flew over the cukoos nest in its entirety...**shrugs with shame***....i have heard by most of my close friends that it is amazing. elise, sorry i havent emailed you in awhile. ive been terribly busy and even more sloth-like in the email correspondence department. not that that makes it okay to neglect your friends, least of all your sinister friends. well at any rate, elise and the rest of you i havent written back to, my sincerest apologies. :o) so who is on board for the 2nd installment of midwest mayhem on 1 december? scott from iowa can you come this time? scott from iowa how/where have you been? rachel formerly of chicagoish now in minneapolisish, can you come? jim and elise are in i presume. and miss nikki (sp?) from chicago, will you be attendence again? gee i hope i hope i hope. :o) am so looking forward to seeing those of you ive already seen and those of you ive yet to see. aww. sinisters are so cool. ya know whats funny, i dont think we even talked about b&s at our last lil gathering. sept when nikki (sp?) said she had IYFS in her head all day, which i seconded...and others may have thirded and fourthed. hee hee. how is that for proper grammar. speaking of something totally unrelated. i have spent all of my recent spare time reading about this guy called raymond queneau. he was a french writer who has absolutely fascinated me to the very core of my being. he is all i think about. his ideas are so incredible. i wont bore y'all with a life story but if you want to hear about an amazing writer, email me and ill tell you all about him...or perhaps youve heard of him and we can chat. :o) punk rock. one last thing....i dunno if ive mentioned this on this list. if i have i apologise. but can someone, anyone, please explain to me why in the bloody hell the white stripes have a job? scott from iowa and i chatted about them one evening and i was pleased that he agreed and im not totally alone in this. their music is less than mediocre and the vocals....oh my gooses. i never realised it was possible to morph the voices of axl rose and billy squire till i heard white stripes. i spent one entire morning trying to understand the hype. people whose opinions i highly regard and respect mentioned the white stripes and how incredible and talented they were. on first listen i didnt care for them but thought it was the sort of thing that just sort of inadvertantly consumed you. well anyway. thats what i thought the white stripes may be like. so i spent all morning listening to it awhile back. yeah. self rightous art wank bastards who claim that their lack of talent makes them avant garde....when in actuality they are no talent hacks who have really good marketing people. its like i always say: most of the time people will like who they are told they should like. i realise i will get shot by many people for saying that. sorry. just my opinion. anyway. im off now. going shopping and then to the first birthday party of the divine miss olivia (one of the girls i take care of). talk to you all soon. i promise ill write back. perhaps ill even do that now. yes. yes i will. i love you all :o) ps...someone emailed me asking for my aim name and i accidentally delted the email...so if youre reading this...its toadie291 just like my email addy. hasta la pasta ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s.arnot at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 18:11:19 2001 From: s.arnot at xxx.com (s.arnot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:11:19 GMT+00:00 Subject: Sinister: strangeways-thinktank Message-ID: <20011111181619.NUFK16035.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> hi y'all did anybody else from sinister go to the unofficial 'i'm waking up to us' release party at strangeways in leeds on friday? i did and it was ACE. they must have played about 20 b&s songs. i didn't really stop dancing all night. anyway, if any sinister people would like to speak to me i will be there again when camera obscura are playing, on the 14th december. i was the boy with the pale blue flares on and a bit of a 'fro. my mood has picked up of late and i have been excessively happy for the last couple of days. piddlemonkey (rachel griddlemonkey) V!I!V!A!R!A!C!H!E!L!S! lo-fi songs are GRATE -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 18:55:35 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:55:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sweden, oh lovely sweden? Message-ID: why even say hello? i've understood that i really don't like sweden at all!! i'm so sorry to you swedes, but i can't stand it! fine, so, there's like... two nice people in sweden. but honestly!! no, i'm so sorry. i don't think i mean what i said. i'm in an awful mood. and no, i don't know why. lie. i do know. oooh, shit. sorry. so, i visited sweden this weekend. nice. not. i don't want to move, i just realised that. since it was quite a while ago, i was in sweden, i had this illusion that it was much better than it really is. i don't feel good about moving anymore. it's like noone really cares what they say. everyone is being mean, and just quite awful. oh, it's one of those days when i don't love anyone. i feel better being depressed. i don't like this mood. at least i can cry when i'm a bit depressed. i can't now. that would just look silly. maybe... if i'd listen to like... kent.. or smiths... i might could get a bit depressed. oh, it's just another teenage-angst-day really. sorry to bother you. rachel oj. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Sun Nov 11 20:55:56 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (velocity farewell) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:55:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I RemembeR BRidget Riley... Message-ID: <20011111205556.37118.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> looking out of the window... grey, cotton clouds are descending from the mountain top covering its slopes slowly like the shawl a beautiful woman wraps around her delicate shoulders... You light up a ciggie even though your throat is sore coz of this damn cold! we live for our obsessions... you love this weather... winter people... winter skin, like Karl Smith says... again the same question... alienation... what must you do to keep people satisfied? besides sex that is (OK stupid joke!)... everything seems to end up in tears... childhood, adolesence, love, life... and in between, short snaps of happiness... waiting... for the outburst... the outburst of rain... i don't know why but rain's always been magical to me... when i was little i was wondering... how this sky that cherishes the sun, that is blue and happy can produce rain? as a child, my daddy o' used to come on his bicycle to pick me up from school... and our little stray dog charlie would run after us all the way, covering these 2 kilometres from school to home, running padding waving his tail in joy... in the rain... my daddy would then take the bicycle into the small store house in the yard and i'd run and hide... i'd lean against the wall and let the rain fall on me, wishing i'd get ill... poor charlie! he'd stay there with me getting all soaked himself... I don't remember who wrote that in one of the recent posts, it was so true though... mm something like "being ill when you're a child it's great, being ill as an adult it sucks"... i couldn't agree more... My dearest PF wrote: " at theturn of the previous century, W.B. Yeats went to see A Doll's House: '"Art is art because it is not nature"," which i misread as "art is art because is not mature"... which made me think what a genius thing to say whilst watching an Henrik Ibsen theatre play... then i read again... and I have to say, the PF, and i think you might second me on that, that I prefer my version of mr Yeats' quote... or like the situationists say "detour children, detour"... And other people wrote stuff about love... and crushes... i have to say that i'm losing faith in love... not that i've ever had any... nobody dies of love in our days... isn't that true? and i've always been dreaming of a love equivalent to the ones i was reading in my books... a love like Tristane and Isolde's... "hopelessly romantic" like the Adorable sing.... waiting, believing that the ONE exists... I still do... awful, i know... but anyway, i thought i should talk about love through poetry... it's always more eloquent than my words... There was this woman poet who I think that she became a poet cause of her repressed passion for a cursed poet... she wrote and wrote and bared her soul... what i think it's one of the most sincere things that she'd written is: "... my soul and love were born on the same day. Even though i can feel that inside me, i don't believe there is a day when my ability to really love shall be proven to me..." and then this poem... so so appropriate... "who could tell..." (1927) You've known me to lean over your love like a butterfly over the scarlet flower and to spread as much as my heart could exhilarating the song of love. you've known my heart's wild outburst in the spring's sweet-scented field, my embrace would turn into a longing's wave your youth to snuggle and the roses... Yes, this snuggling of youth and roses... the days of wine and roses... the days of cholera... the day of devastation... the days of waR... coz love is war... here's a link so you can see Maria Polidouri's photo... that's especially for my Laura coz like I've just told her she's one of the few people who'd appreciate this and dream... but then that's especially for my dearest Nicholas, who would really appreciate this too and for Paul, who knows me better than anyone else and he always knows what i'm talking about when i don't make sense to myself even... http://www.geocities.com/atheosdei/Poetry.html But enough with romanticism... which like any other term in philosophy that ends in -ism is a negative term... here's what one of my fave poets, monsieur Jaques Prever, wrote about love in his poem "the tinniest of the songs" The bird that sings in my head And relentlessly tells me that i love you And relentlessly tells me that you love me The bird with the unbearable refrain I shall this bird kill tomorrow morning... Lovely isn't it? i love it anyway.... and yes, I want to kill this bird... StayC Dahling was wondering about the lover and the beloved... I guess I wouldn't like to be any of them... to be the lover without having your love fed is unbearable... i'd kill the bird... i'd kill the beloved than suffering like this... to be the beloved but not the lover at the same time, well, that's suffocating... there would be times when i'd hate the lover... because his love would smother me, would crash me, would suffocate my youth and roses in this constricting embrace... that is all for now... take care... hugs vel xxx PS: forgive my bad translations of the poems from greek to english... PpS: I loved Kyla's post! keep posting my Kyla with the beautiful gaelic name... "WaR is the last possible cReative act"Mick Travis "IF" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 21:20:21 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:20:21 Subject: Sinister: sweden, oh lovely sweden? Message-ID: rachel you are not making any sense? hmm where on earth did you go to meet such horrible people if you would have hung out with any of me and my friends I promise you that you would feel differently about it.. why wasn't it nice..you're not telling us the whole picture here.. and i do not understand why everyone is being mean..none of the people I call worthy hanging out with in this country are mean..my boyfriend is english and he can say the same. All my friends are friendly creatures that's what friens are for.. what do you mean not care about what they say?? hmm darling you should really give sweden a better chance and yeah if you're in stockholm some time I'll introduce you to my friendly klick of friends..I do really hope you'll come to Sweden again, it's a lovely place. I like where i am from..and I'm kinda proud of our snowy winters and happy faces:) hmm my boyfriend danny is coming to stay with me in snowyland next week..were gonna make snowangels in the snow..:) hugs to my sinister pals.. see you soon Rebecka in falun, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sun Nov 11 21:26:49 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:26:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: An unremarkable day Message-ID: Rachel Sunnyside-Up was walking along unaware that her life was about to irrevocably change. The sky was an unremarkable colour, the route taken was the same as on any other day, and as on any other day she was slightly late. The day had begun in a typical fashion, burnt toast, lost keys and odd socks. She had woken up at a reasonable time, left the house slightly later than was reasonable and was walking to work slightly slower than was necessary. To all intents and purposes, this had begun as an exceedingly average day. Just look at her walking, in the hazy mid morning light. Head down, squinting slightly, shoelace undone, bag slightly open. You would hardly notice her . Her mind was not focused on the journey in the slightest. Other than to look at a tree that she hadn't noticed before, or to gasp in horror as a stray dog circled round and round the busy road, she was completely unaware of what passed her by that day. She was walking along listening to the sound of "Mary Jo" which originated deep inside of her head. Had passers-by looked, they might have noticed her lips move marginally from time, as she quietly sang along to the song. But just as Miss Sunnyside up was unaware of what passed her by, passers-by were unaware of small movements from her lips and the song within her head. Miss Sunnyside-Up Liked that song but it worried her slightly: "Because life is never dull in your dreams" Sometimes just lately her dreams had become dull. That worried her more than slightly. The journey ended outside an ugly grey building. The journey ended outside the university where Miss Sunnyside up worked. She climbed in an ancient lift and pressed 5. Unusually, since Miss Sunnyside up entered on the ground floor, the lift appeared to go down. Appearances can be deceptive and this would have been impossible. Miss Sunnyside up emerged, a few seconds later, on the fifth floor confirming the fact that the lift had indeed been ascending rather than descending. Miss Sunnyside up sat down at her desk and looked at the two postcards in front of her. They were pictures taken from different angles of a place in Japan. A far off place that Miss Sunnyside up had never visited but quite often thought about. She often sat staring at those two pictures and had come to know them quite well. In a way they had come to feel like a place that she had visited. Looking at that place from different angles imaging what it must feel like to be stood between the two views. Looking behind at things that weren't in the pictures. The sky in the two pictures was blue. A stark contrast to her own sky which sat just above her head monotonous and grey. draining the colour from everything around and about. The blueness of the sky made the pictures appear slightly unreal. It also made the greyness of the surrounds a little less than real. The morning passed with out incident. Or rather the morning passed without unusual incidents. Miss Sunnyside-Up dropped a few items and spilled a few things. At mid-day she left the grey building, following her morning footsteps, as far as the newsagents situated half way between her house and her place of work, she picked up a copy of the local newspaper. Her eyes focussed on an advert towards the back of the paper and she rushed home more excited than she had been in a very long time. That evening after a few frantic phone-calls Miss Sunnyside Up ventured across a darkening city and out into the countryside. After a few wrong turns Miss Sunnyside-Up reached her destination and returned safely home. The bundle of fluff she brought back with her looked around anxiously. It was Miss Sunnyside-Up who spoke first of all: "so what do you think of your new home belle?" The dog didn't answer Miss Sunnyside-Up's initial question. Deciding that there were more important things to be doing. The small dog seemed to relax somewhat as if deciding to give the place its seal of approval. The dog trotted over to the corner of the room grabbed a cushion and proceeded to chew. Miss Sunnyside-Up sighed, things would never be the same again. Miss Sunnyside-Up smiled, things would never be the same again. Take Care Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 03:15:51 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:15:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Have You HUGED A Belle And Sebastian Fan Today? Message-ID: "The industry of Mr. Sinclair Lewis is a thing to marvel at, to ponder of a white night, and, if such is your way, to hoist high as an example. To my own admittedly slanted vision, industry ranks with such sour and spinster virtues as thrift, punctuality, levelheadedness, and caution. I think that Aldous Huxley utters the loud truth when he says, in Point Counter Point, that industry can never substitute for talent. There exists, especially in the American mind, a sort of proud confusion between the two. A list of our authors who have made themselves most beloved, and therefore, most comfortable financially, shows that it is our national joy to mistake for the first-rate, the fecund rate." Don't take my silence over the past month as a sign of having company, moping about miserably, and generally being swamped in work. Rather think of it as rather merely following the sagacious wisdom of Dorothy Parker. Rachel Ranted: >ON A HAPPY NOTE, Laura Llew's gentleman caller, Mr. Breams wrote his >tale >of being in the presence of said goddess* awww!It's so cute! Ooh, a gentleman caller - I always wanted one of those. A vapid sweaty Jim to my delicate bloom of a Laura. My favorite scene is all of literature comes from when a Laura is preparing for such a boy: Mother: No, wait! Wait just a moment - I have an idea! Laura: What is it then? [Mother produces two powder puffs which she wraps in handkerchiefs and stuffs in Laura's bosom.] Laura: Mother, what are you doing? Mother: They call them gay deceivers! Laura: I won't wear them! Mother: You will! Laura: Why should I? Mother: Because, to be painfully honest, your chest is flat. You can work in a bookshop all you want - but it's still going to be just the books which are well stacked. >LAURA LLEW wrote earlier this month: "for Halloween when I shall be > >Isadora Quagmire http://www.lemonysnicket.com/tc_isadora.html) and >yes, >I plan to do that exact expression for the entire day and speak >only in couplets." I am curious to know how that works out for you >miss >Llew! Due to still being in a haze from the night before, I opted to only dress up as Isadora in the evening. As talented as my hair is, it still obeys the laws of physics so my costume wasn't completely perfected. However, I was wearing great striped socks and I'm sure it made up for it. I spoke in couplets the entire time I was out in the evening which was great(ly annoying). I had wanted to prepare a couple of couplets beforehand - maybe lift one from the Virgin Suicides like: The trees like lungs filling with air My sister, the mean one, pulling my hair This is only because, "All the lads I've met in cupid's deadlock - were shall we say?- born out of wedlock" didn't exactly work. Yes, I had a sinister visitor for a couple of weeks. He was used to being around a lot of people and I'm used to being by myself. So, I whipped out all of my multiple personalities for him and then pretended he didn't exist. Oddly enough, it worked. I also spent copious amounts of time being continually impressed by how the mere drop of his Australian accent would make people swoon and paved the way for us getting free food and tickets to a sold out show. Yes! My first show! I fell asleep. And they say I'm not a scenester... The Real Jimmy G (http://www.gocontinental.com/photos/gilmer_j_2a.jpg What you didn't think the secret would get out) crooned for the chorus: >Her: "I've decided I want to make out with one boy in every country" >Me: "How's that working out for you?" >Her: "Pretty good so far, though I don't know anyone in the >Netherlands....so, what are *you* doing tonight?" I wonder how successful she was. In college, I had the goal of going out with a boy from each state but I stopped once I got to 35 states and decided the mid-west wasn't worth it. (Except for Missouri because there was no way I was missing the SHOW ME state.) Working in a bookshop I'm not exactly overloaded with suave boys so my best (worst) pickup line was more of a pickup gesture when a boy left me a copy of John Gray's Mars & Venus On A Date. What is one to do when given a DATING book? I mean was the boy trying to tell me that I needed help in that area. Was it a hint? Does he - HEAVEN FORBID - expect me to read it and discuss it with him? Instead I believe I'm going to give him the book, "Women are from Venus Men Are From Hell" which has great quotes in it like, "Ever since Eve gave Adam the apple, there has been a misunderstanding between the sexes about gifts." (Nan Robertson) This post is going to be long. I can feel my bum getting sore already. I had an entire rant ready for the whole List Crush Debate of 2001 - beginning with the fact that even I (or is it - especially I) can seem appealing with thousands of miles away. However, I shall steer away from such debacles and leave you instead with a poem by Yeats which I'm going to dedicate to Miss Fruitloop: Never give all the heart, for love Will hardly seem worth thinking of To passionate women if it seem Certain, and they never dream That it fades out from kiss to kiss; For everything that's lovely is But a brief, dreamy. Kind delight. O never give the heart outright, For they, for all smooth lips can say, Have given their hearts up to the play. And who could play it well enough If deaf and dumb and blind with love? He that made this knows all the cost, For he gave all his heart and lost. For everything that's lovely is But a brief, dreamy. Kind delight-- Laura *And to think boys usually have to have had a couple before before they start calling me Goddess and boy did it while completely sober. PS - Hot Chocolate Chugs out to Fairweather Farewell Farrell - the only person EVER who has been as obsessed with hot chocolate as I am and appreciates a little *panache* PPS - Vel if you're going to send poems that have never been translated into English knowing I'll fall in love with them, then you'd best be prepared to become a full time translator for me. I'd hate to find out you were a tease. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 04:54:27 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:54:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The Rachel Breakfast Club script Message-ID: <20011112045427.16136.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> ***cue "Don't Chu" by Simple Minds*** < a shot of a busy Pasadena street > < cut to 3 sini-kids in a car stuck in traffic somewhere along the Interstate 5 > < cut to a montage of plastic popes > < a locker with slow graffitti that reads "open this locker and you die fag!!!"> < Kitsch pictures on a wall like 1940's era cuties in a spaghetti eating contest > < a wooden banister with "I'm eating my head" carved in it > < cut to 2 sini-kids speeding down the interstate and talking about the owners of a mail-order company > Enter Rachel Fruitloop and Ernie "Will" Cloves. They were told that part of the party had already checked in and may have been waiting in the bar area. ***Cue "Fire In The Twilight" by Wang Chung*** Ernie and Fruitloop went running through the restaurant trying to find the other Sinisters, but they were nowhere to be found. they changed directions too fast, and tried to avoid the owner and Rachel's 1980's boots sent her skidding down the hall. They made it back to the front of the restaurant, trouble averted. Soon, Rachel Cornflake, Katie "Rachel" Cheeriodle and Benny (not part of the sinister list) arrived. Ernie Recognized Rachel from the last L.A. Sinister meetup. Soon entered Michael Vance. He joined the group right off, he recognized the twee-ness. Then Jose joined in, Rachel Cornflake recognized him from the last time, too. Some speculation went on about whether or not Jennifer Juniper and her friend or Juju Cat would arrive. They did not, unfortunately, and they were missed. Also, Ryan, Lord of the Nursery (dweller of about 7 weeks now!) was expected. Group complaints were made about how hungry everybody was. Then the overlords, or Hostesses of the restaurant spoke: "It is now 9:25. You have exactly 8 hours and 45 minutes to collect 80% of your party before we'll seat you. And we don't mean a single person repeated a thousand times. Any questions?" Jose turned to the group: "I got a question: Does Belle & Sebastian know that you raid their wardrobe?" Rachel Fruitloop said: "I'll give you the answer to that Mr. Jose next Southern California meet-up. Don't mess with a red bull young man, you'll get the red horns" Enter Ryan, fashionably late. and hungry. He was updated on the status of our party and talked to the overlord hostesses again. Rachel Fruitloop hid the necklace that Katie Cheeriodle made for her out of fruitloops. Rachel Cornflake bit her nails. Ernie quips: "You keep eating your hand, you're not going to be hungry for dinner" The party was FINALLY seated. Some very cheeky waiters came by and pretended to be trying to get our orders. Waiter: "What's your poison?" *silence* "What do you drink?" *blank stares* Ok, forget I asked. Rachel Fruitloop: "Coke" Waiter: "Coke? When do you drink Pepsi?" RFL: "Whenever" Waiter: "A lot?" *3 others order a soda* RFL: "tons" Waiter: "Is that why you're here tonight?" The waiter went to get drinks and the food order was decided on. Michael Vance: "What's in there?" *he's vegan* Katie Cheeriodle: "Guess. Where's your dinner?" Benny: "You're wearing it" Katie Cheeriodle: "You're nauseating!" Michael Vance: "Can I eat?" Benny: "I dunno. Give it a try" *he also asks who morrissey is but is only being a pain in the ass and very funny* Food is ordered and eaten. Ryan made snow on his placemat by overloading his coffee cup with sugar. He then poured sugar over two pieces of bread and mashed corn pops in the middle to make a sandwich. The olive and pimento loaf is stuck to a statue somewhere off in the distance. Rachel Cornflake said: "Being Sinister feels pretty good, eh?" ***snapshots are taken as the group leaves the building*** The debate of mobile phones began, and ring tones were transfered from phone to phone. Michael Vance: "That's real intelligent" Jose: "You're right. It's wrong to destroy music, such fun to ring. *turns over phone* 'Legal Man' really pumps my nads" Rachel Fruitloop: "My love is disital" ***Jose throws mobile phone at RFL*** Ryan Nurserylord: "Speak For Yourself" Michael Vance: "Do you think I'd speak for you? I don't even know your mobile phone number!" ***everybody laughed. Michael and Ryan talked technical about video game design for a good portion of the night. It was funny that they didn't both share a passion for mobile phones. The group parted ways and decided that the trip to the bar would have to wait*** Rachel Cornflake raised her head up from her huddled mass of pyjamas and cuteness on the floor and could only manage a "WOW!" Ernie "Will" Cloves played the best selections from the bootlegs he brought, holding the dj spot on Rachel Fruitloop's bed as Rachel Fruitloop sat next to him. Katie Cheeriodle was seated on the floor looking sleepy and Benny was near Ernie, seated on the futon chair. ***Benny removed his glasses and they broke.*** Rachel Cornflake: "Screws fall out all the time, the world's an imperfect place!" Benny: "aww, show a dick slap some respect!" *it was not a missing screw. they were broken.* Katie Cheeriodle: "I expected a little more from a middle distance runner. You're not foooling anybody, Benny! The next screw that falls out is going to be you." Benny: "eat my shorts" Rachel Fruitloop: "what was that?" Benny: "EAT MY SHORTS" Rachel FL: "You just bought yourself another Sinister meet-up mister!" Rachel Cornflake: "Oh, I'm crushed!" Rachel FL: "You just bought one more right there!" Rachel CF: "Well, I'm free the Saturday after that. Beyond that, I'm gonna have to check my calendar!" ***Everybody agreed that we will have to have another Sinister meetup soon because it was so much fun!*** Friday, November 9th, 2001 Sinister "list date", Pasadena, CA Dear Sinister, We accept the fact that we had to sacrafice a whole friday night for whatever it was that we did Sinister. And what we did WAS twee. but we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us. In the simplest terms, in the most conveniant definitions, what we found out is each one of us is a Brain, a Sexual Athlete, a Basketcase, a Princess and a Dick Slap. Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, The Rachel Breakfast Club ***still shot of fist in the air silhouetted against the sky. Roll credits. fade to black.*** -THE END- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CFBobcat2003 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 04:27:24 2001 From: CFBobcat2003 at xxx.com (CFBobcat2003 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:27:24 EST Subject: Sinister: new b&s Message-ID: <7e.1dbae8c0.2920a9ac@cs.com> Greetings, I never post, but I just had a question for you guys. Is the new ep supposed to be out.......cuz I got it on 12". I was just asking, because its funny i got the last release early at the same place. My buddy was innocently reading titles and he said "waking up to us" belle and sebastian. My ears perked up and the rest is history. Let me tell you it sounds strange to me. It sounds lo-fi like it was made in the 60's, and musically it definately has more of a 60's feel, stuart sings akwardly too....... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mairaefabio at xxx.br Thu Nov 8 21:28:51 2001 From: mairaefabio at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Snoozer/_Ma=EDra_Ezequiel?=) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:28:51 -0200 Subject: Sinister: whatever happened to that vhs Message-ID: <000201c16943$38fcc720$bb7dc7c8@mxyzptlk> Hello all you sinister addicted people from around the world. I'm very sorry for spending so much time with no reply about the recording of B&S's gig on Rio. Many of you sent me requests of the tape. I'd be very glad to send it... if there was ever a recording! I was so desperately mad about what happened, that i had to spend some time without even thinking about it. And what really happened was: the great tv network (Multishow) cut the broadcasting after 4 B&S songs! Not mentioning they had already cut Sigur Rigos' right in the middle of a highly involving climax part of a song. I was pissed off, but sure that, as headliners, there would be no trouble for the scottish. Trouble was for me: frustration and great expectation for the next day trip/ concert itself. AND I WAS THERE. They're so cute. Me and Má were completely in love with the performance. Truly beautiful. "we rule the school". I could never imagine they would do this one. The most exciting ones for the audience and the ones i got really emotional were: "Sleep the clock around", "The Model", "Judy & the dream of horses", "Baby" (her voice was beaauuutiful!!!) and "legal man" in the end. It's amazing how great musicians they are. Everybody plays everything, it's so nice... Sigur Rós was amazing. But few people there got into it. Grandaddy was ok. I prefer the record, i guess. THERE'S STILL HOPE. For the ones who still hope to see B&S on VHS, good quality, nice camera work and brazilian audience going crazy, a chance is what we've got!!! >From 19th, current month, Multishow is going to show 5 of the Festival's concerts, and they're gonna be the 5 most voted and requested from the viewers, that vote on the website. I've been there voting for Belle And Sebastian about twenty times. But I'm pretty sure they're going to show them, because THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID. A lot of people have complained about it. So, why don't you lovely sinistereens from cold distant places go to www.multishow.com.br look for a banner (i guess that's how we call) for the Free Jazz Festival and vote on the sweetest band in the world??? :.) I finally made it through the hundred mesgs i got since i came back. And we came with a lot of things going in our heads. São Paulo is really something. Perhaps, next post. Thanks for reading, Fabio Snoozer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 14:40:24 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:40:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nice hay for a pulp Message-ID: I think it must have been a cursed weekend for Kens alike.. JAMES GILMER said: >>Ken Kesey died yesterday. << Ken Chu died on Saturday. The little cough that he had on Thursday manifested itself into full blown Anfluex, and Ken, on his bed, coughed his last cough, picked his final nose, and passed away. His spirit, due to previous evil plots to get girls to e-mail him, has been branded not worthy for Red Bull Heaven has hence had been sent to Red Hell, where the spirit has to be mixed with Red Devil forever. Being a keen worker he still tried to go to work on Monday morning, but Anfluex guarded the exit from hell, so Ken had to call into work once again, this time with the worse excuse ever "Hell-o, sorry I can't make it to work today but I'm currently in Hell", well at least this time it was the truth. So yes, poor Ken. Before he passed away tho he listened to the new single, which he didn't like at first. Stuart sounded like he was taking the piss when he was singing, a bit like when you're on the Karaoke and you put on a comedy voice. He liked the piano bits of Marx and Engles very much, and the song was good too. He listened to the title track again and liked it a little bit more. He then he built up the courage to listen to "I love my car" (he liked it when he listened to it live and didn't want to be disappointed), and it was lovely, even better than when it was live. He listened to the title track again, and this time loved it. And then he died. His only salvation now to exit from Hell, he'd been told, is if he goes to the picnic in London this Saturday and gets snogged by girls. You won't bear to see a pretty boy get trapped in hell forever would you? Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 15:54:50 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:54:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The Rachel Breakfast Club script In-Reply-To: <20011112045427.16136.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011112045427.16136.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011112075450.D29801@24-205-57-185.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 08:54:27PM -0800, Rachel fruitloop wrote: > The debate of mobile phones began, and ring tones were transfered > from phone to phone. What Rachel fails to mention is that we were actually shooting a commercial for exciting new "Dicital" phone technology, each of us realizing in turn as the Legal Man ring tone was transfered that tomorrow would be a better place thanks to "Dicital". Another plane just crashed, so I'll stop there. m. -- "We are not here to fuck the band, we are the band." -- Corin Tucker, Sleater-Kinney +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 15:36:45 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:36:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: purple people pleaser (what *really* happened) Message-ID: <20011112153645.91650.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone! I had the most magial day yesterday, thanks to Milwaukee's best, Kirsten Kenyon! She called me up out of the blue, and she was only ten minutes on foot from my humble flat. So we went on a magical shopping journey, AND she took me to #sinister for the first time (hi everybody) *waves wildly* But the highlight of the day was when Kirsten happily accompanied me (I dragged her with) to the classiest sex shop in town. She was very curious about all the toys (wouldn't touch then unless forced) and she especially enjoyed playing with the vibrators (I had to chase her 'round the shop and poke her in the bum with 'em). Finally she helped me pick one out (was quite indiffrent) and we went back to the flat and both tried it out (she read "Cosmo" whilst I read the instruction pamphlet and cleaning manual). We have decided to become lesbian lovers (maybe hang out again sometime, provided Elise never talks about the purple vibrator again), but we'll always have love in our hearts (and beds) for Ken Chu. Anyway, much love to Kirsten and hopefully next time Jimmy G can come with too. Air kisses to Rachie, I'll write you later on today. Most love to my baby Sean, who is ever-so-patiently waiting for me in Maryland. *He's* excited about the purple toy!! ******************* Also, just heard the crazy news about the plane crash in New York, I sincerely hope everyone, and everyone's loved ones are okay. ******************** Love to all, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 15:52:09 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:52:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Plane crash Message-ID: Christ, sometimes Sinister's more reliable than the BBC... Archel just emailed with this... >Robin, I just heard that a plane has crashed in Queens in New York - >can't email sinister from work but I want to check everyone's ok. Can >you send a mail on my/our behalf? > >Archel x Any news from those in New York? I do hope you and all your loved ones are okay and echo Archel's concern for everyone who might be affected. Please let us know. Almost every news site I've tried to look at has crashed too, so it's a bit of a blackout, and no-one seems to know yet what's happened. I was going to send something ironical to the list today but it can wait. Hope you're all safe. Robin and Archel xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 16:44:57 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:44:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Plane crash Message-ID: On the off chance anyone else can't get into the news sites (many of them are crashing due to high server loads) or can't see their TVs. An A-300 Airbus crashed in the Far Rockaway area of Queens just after take off for a schedualed flight to the Dominican Republic. 255+ passengers aboard. Right now, it looks like the engine either burned out and ignited the fuel tanks, causing and explosion that sheared the engine and wing off, or another mechanical failure happened which caused the engine to seperate from the wing. The A-300 series has been involved in 8 major accidents worldwide since its inception in the 70's, right now the accident is believed to be unrelated to any terrorist activity and is assumed to be mechanical. At least twelve buildings are on fire in the Far Rockaway area. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 16:40:23 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:40:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian shows Message-ID: David wrote: On the Segundosdeluz list dear maria am�lie p/Maria Sierra posted a link to a review & photos of B&S @ Benicassim, so for the benfit of all of you, here it is: http://www.frequencerock.com/articles/view.php?id=152 its in French but I'm sure that you'll figure out what it all means. I only had to go for the dictionary twice. Some nice close ups of Struan. (I *know* who's hitting that link now!) A few weeks ago someone else posted a link to photos of that same concert(I remember the grey pants, white shirt). Does anyone remember that link? If so, please gently guide me that way. Funny how some people can radiate more magnetism (that sounds terribly cheesy, but anyways) in long pants and shirts than others in ridiculous woolen bikinis with stupid quotations such as 'oh, it's itchy' to accompany. Nice pictures there by the way, I like the hand-on-hip stance. So is there only that one Belfast show then? I know some of you have these sources that know everything so come on, please share. I thought the others were going to be announced on the friday, but it was the gig that everyone knew anyways. Christmastime shows and Belle and Sebastian just seem so fitting. We even had snow today, it's always fun to see for the first time when you wake up. I'm too shy to approach boys, so for your pick-up line thread I've only ever tried once in my life (with the help of some alcohol). I was very honest: "I find you very cute, would you be terribly offended if I were to kiss you?" and it worked, he was not offended. There was a Tindersticks interview on MuchMusic today - how strange to finally put a face to that low low low voice. I was expecting someone bearded. Has anyone got their new album or am I really behind news and it has already been out for awhile? xoxo Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Mon Nov 12 16:13:04 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:13:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i'd rather be fat than be confused - and what if i'm both? Message-ID: <004e01c16b9e$e6e8b620$c6684cd5@default> "then go on a diet, deary!", says my alter ego ;) hello dear sinisters (and sinistresses?) just got back from school, after an unsuccessful attempt at doing ok in the history test i had been learning for throughout most of the weekend. how very annoying. my school was to have a patron (most other schools have one) and a few days ago me and my mates were presenting the candidature of elisabeth the great :) the day (and night) before we made cardboard puppets of the 'good queen bess', shakespeare (who looked like a cross between a legendary polish sorcerer and a chinese dragon, but who cares), the spanish armada and the english fleet ;) the spanish armada sinking to the accompaniment of 'blub blub' sounds was especially amusing. ;) who knows, perhaps i'll soon be attending (or rather, graduating from) the school of elisabeth I ;) mind you, it would make it easier than having to mention the school's number and the fact it's adjoining a uni every time ('szescdziesiate-siodme liceum ogolnoksztalcace przy wydziale pedagogicznym uniwersytetu warszawskiego' - what a mouthful!! ;) baaah why am i talking about school ? "because you got boring, love", i hear voices. ;) anyway, kamil (aka beteboo), the on-off sinister member, has moved to warsaw! :) yay! we met up on saturday, he's such a gentleman - he *asked* if i wouldn't mind him smoking, insisted on paying for me in a cafe.. (boys, take notes please! ;) i'm looking forward to dragging him to some gigs with me (after i'm done with silly tests). plus, now we only need maja to come over, and the polish sinister club will be complete :) pam param mr gilmer mentioned pick-up lines. hm, i once asked a newly met lad if he was a belle&seb fan, does that count? ;) and, guess what - i was right! :) he was pestering me for weeks asking, 'how do you recognise a b&s fan? do i look like stu m? someone once told me i resemble elliot smith a bit...' :) luvly :) only i couldn't answer him, he simply.. well, looked like a b&s fan to me! perhaps we're all stigmatised somehow ;) perhaps i'm talking nonsense.. on a slightly different note, am i the only person who hasn't heard 'waking up to us' yet? i think i'll have to go record-shopping abroad soon! gaaaaah. either that or convincing my anti-b&s mate to convince her boss (i.e. the boss of koch records) to start distributing bel+seb cds in my fair country. perhaps i'll settle for the former ;) enough rambling, have to, ummh, go and study - another test tomorrow, do keep your fingers crossed! hugs, olalala a.k.a. rachola cinnamon a.k.a. olla trallala* *my mate invented that a few days ago - he can be justified, though, he's a musician ;)) byeeeeeeeeexxxx -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 17:33:23 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:33:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: if you have five minutes to spare..... Message-ID: <20011112173323.16911.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> first off, props to VEL for quoting from a doubleplus sweet jacque prevert poem..... my favourite prevert poem is the one that says: "i hung my hat in the cage and went out with the bird on my head..." or something like that. anyway. i havent posted in awhile, what with being IN LOVE and all, but i decide to give a quick recap of some of my recent doings and whatnot. winter left us here in minneapolis for last week, but has returned i think, today. it was above 70 degrees last tuesday. very strange behavior for this time of year. perhaps the end is approaching? perhaps not: it's only in the 40's now. last friday night i had a swinging shin-dig in my flat, i attempted to cram as many people as i could into it.....about 25! i was amazed, considering everyone was laying horizontally and all. we listened to some (as the lovely ulla puts it) "dreamy and wonderful serge gainsbourg and some magnetic fields, who are not quite so dreamy but still quite wonderful" :) and we drank my double strong margaritas and ate my super special nachos. it was a grand time.....you really should have come. the week went by as fast as any in recent memory. old mrs. richland was sad because somebody had vandalized her oak trees and mr. henderson's cow milly died unexpectedly of a lightning strike. (???) saturday night my friend robbie (of the wonderful indie band "kloey" ---go on check em out at mp3.com!) cut my hair in her kitchen whilst i boiled up a pot of my spiced cider. then we went to the midnight showing of "the city of lost children". everyone said that the little pick-pocket boys looked like little versions of me, with their rolled up pants and used blazers and berets. today at work my co workers said my new haircut and my glasses made me look like a nazi soldier. i think shindler's list was on tv sunday. hmmm.... there are some who think that any style from the 30's or 40's is a nazi style. damn the fascists! so tonight i will go dancing with my friends and feel lonely and disconnected from my surroundings as i think of a girl sleeping far off, alone in her bed, dreaming of me..... much love and non-violent hairstyles, caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 18:14:29 2001 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:14:29 EST Subject: Sinister: this is not the greatest song in the world, this is just a tribute Message-ID: <51.1413e8bf.29216b85@aol.com> Hello All,I haven't posted in a while, but with the open call for hilarious pick up lines, I felt obligated to share one with you all. Mind you it was not used by or on me, but it was used by a friend, and overheard by me. Allow me to set the stage...My friend Jason and I are at one of the Brit-pop dance nights they have in Baltimore about 6 months ago...he has been consuming quite an impressive amount of liquor that evening and was dancing up a storm. While dancing he spots a young lady who he fancies and proceeds to look at her for a while. She looks over at him and catches him staring at her. He walks over and immediately appologizes by saying "I'm Sorry." She replies, "Sorry for what?" And Jason quickly retorts, "Sorry for being such a damn good dancer!" The most hilarious part of it all is that it actually worked, and the two of them dated for a few months. That being said, I suppose I will now share with you the events of my past weekend. All in all it was quit! e pleasant. Friday was a day filled with the watching of lovely things. First I went to a play called "Art," which was hilarious and acted wonderfully. All in all, I loved it. If anyone gets the chance to see it performed, I highly reccomend it. Then I went to a diner with a few friends, where we proceeded to consume coffee and cigarettes at a furied pace, and were served by an insane waitress. She was constantly hitting on and touching one of the people that was with us. After a while she said that we had to pay because she wanted to leave...my friend Rebecca gave her a credit card to pay with, and this woman was gone with it for about 40 minutes...so much for being in a hurry to get out of there! We ended up having to hunt her down in the back of the restaraunt to get Rebecca's card back. Then we decided to go to a movie, "The Man Who Wasn't There," to be specific. Also quite good I thought. On the way to the theater we proceeded to rock out to Tenacious D at ear ! bleeding volumes, and well, it was fun. During the furious rocking out, I managed to hear one of the funniest lines in a song that I have ever heard. It was in a song where they sing about meeting the devil, and writing the greatest song ever, and proceeding to forget it...and it went something like this...the demon said, "do ye be angels," and we said "Nay, we are but men...ROCK!" Yes, well, that was my friday night everyone. I've also been quite occupied with preparing for, and thinking about Elise's December visit, that is thankfully growing closer by the minute! Ten whole days of fun and love...YAY! I CANT WAIT!!!! The plane tickets have been purchased, and I've already picked out my outfit for picking her up at the airport in. It involves buying a new jacket, which is by the way, the awesomest jacket in existence. I was quite pleased to find that such a garmet existed a couple of weeks ago at Nordstrom's, and I plan on pawning one of my old guitars that I don't r! eally play anymore to get it. Well, I'm in the school library, where I am not supposed to be emailing any one, and the super scary librarians are getting ready to swoop down upon me so I better wrap this up, and prepare to do battle. Take care everyone, don't do anything I wouldn't do, and make sure to rock out today...it's good for the health. And special shout outs and love to my darling Elise...and a few nibbly kisses for her as well. pink flamingos, and the greatest song in the world, -Sean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Mon Nov 12 18:28:14 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:28:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm saving up for US Message-ID: Hello Sinister, ***After hearing about todays events in New York I was going to delay sending this message. But (whatever caused this latest tragedy) we MUST go on living in the face of adversity. I'll just say that I hope everyone on Sinister with has heard that their loved ones are safe and well*** If patience is a virtue then what's that game my sister plays on her own with cards? Two weeks to go and I still haven't heard IWUTU on the radio. Of course, if a tape landed through my door courtesy of a mystery benefactor with an advanced copy ;-), I would be thrilled. Having said that, the joyful anticipation felt in queueing outside the record store on a Monday morning should not be underrated. Folks in the Know: Hey Miss Cola Cube Cay, and anyone else planning to to be tweezing their cotton sox off on Saturday up on Primrose Hill. I can't get away from a pesky work event till 5pm, so what's happening later ron? I also have a cunning plot up my sleeve to kidnap Kenneth P Y Chu that evening (shhh! keep it quiet), and only release him if everyone returns to Primrose Hill the next day for FITBA!!!! Apologies to everyone for my prattle in #sinister yesterday. I am rather inexperienced and have not got the required technique *down* yet - but I got to talk to my sweetheart Rachel Fruitloop so I'm a happy boy. There's been a lot of discussion about crushes and "wuv", but I'll always be the eternal optimist. As a lovely young lady from Birmingham once told me, you've got to follow your dreams. At the moment mine are running away to L.A. But I'm on their tail ;-) Anyway gotta go. And remember FITBA on Sunday or the CHU gets it!! Bye then by Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 19:20:36 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:20:36 EST Subject: Sinister: cincip llih esormirp primrose hill picnic Message-ID: <14e.3e2fc40.29217b04@aol.com> Hello Sinister As I'm sure you're all aware there is planned to be a picnic this Saturday upon the hill know commonly as Primrose, well sadly Miss Jenni/Cola cube (what ever alias she goes under now) is busy going to weddings this weekend and as such can't be at the picnic which is a shame. Hey is anybody planning to come? Now being as there didn't seem to be any solid plans I'll try and knit something together from ideas people have had. So weather being fine, howabout we meet on said hill at the traditional time of 2pm? yes? We can do that if you like (wrap up warm) But Ben can't get there till 5pm so then we could go to the pub(The Dublin Castle and many other lovely places are not far) Also another Ben-idea was Fitba on Sunday, presuming it is the same game as football I'm very keen. So come on, it'll be brill. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 19:43:05 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:43:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: How can you persuade a dog and a cat to get along? Message-ID: <20011112194305.A25838@candle.btinternet.com> Ages ago now, Stacey Dahling wrote to Sinister to say that long-distance crushes are a bad thing. And she was talking from her own experiance. Then, Rachel Fruitloop replied to say that: no, list crushes are a good thing. And she was talking from her own experiance. After that, Dimitra jumped in and said that: no, list crushes or long-distances crushes are just like any other sort of crush. And she was ... well, you get the idea. I wanted to reply, but my mind was busily re-arranging itself at the time and I wasn't sure what I wanted to say. Next, I wanted to reply, but although I knew what sort of feeling and noise I wanted to make, I didn't know what words to say it with. Finally, though, I realised that I wanted to try. Today, then, I went out and looked round another art gallery hoping for some inspiration. It was packed, full of teenagers drawing sketches of the pictures. They all picked from just a few, it seemed. The most popular was an Andy Warhol portrait of a dog. But anyway. I left, buying a few postcards to pin on my wall. I don't have any pins, though. In the end, I realised I'd just have to talk about my own experiences. Well, I could try it. At one time, I agreed with Fruitloop that list crushes were a Good Thing. Then, a little while ago, I agreed with Dahling that list crushes were a Bad Thing. Now, though, I think they're just a Thing, and whether they're good or bad depends on you and one other person. I'm not sure if that's what Dimitra thinks, but it would be nice and symmetrical if it was. I even tried looking for inspiration in my dictionary. It says that crush can mean "infatuation", and it can also mean "to defeat or humiliate utterly", and "to become injured, broken or distorted by pressure". Of course, I'm sure you knew that already. I know I did. I had several crushes -- not necessarily List Crushes -- that ended in utter humilation, when Whoever found out that I had a crush on them. I think that happened in every case. I'm not sure about injury, but the humiliation kept on happening. Well, nearly every case. There's not much point going into details, because nearly all followed the same pattern. I don't want you to think there were lots, but there was more than one. So, of course, I thought that crushes were a Bad Thing and I was doomed. But, I realise now, it just depends on whether the other person is special enough. Whether they deserve it, I suppose. If your crush is a special person, then they won't just reject you. At first, they might not tell you that they think you have a crush on them, but they will still keep talking to you. Even when you know that they know, you will still keep talking to each other. Gently, shyly, you and them will talk about all sorts of little things, and you will start to feel a warm glow inside. You don't talk about crushes, but you might discuss things like your pets, or your family, and then suddenly decide to meet up with each other again, and go off to the other end of the country. Just as friends, of course. And then you can forget all your other worries and problems and just feel happy, because you have that warm glow. I sent a crush vote to someone the other week. I think they guessed straight away that I had sent it. I hope they're happy right now. xx will -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 21:56:22 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:56:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dec 1st Sinister Chicago gathering!!!!!! Message-ID: I figured I might as well make an 'official' announcement. December 1st is the decided upon date of a Sinister get together in glorious Chicago. Midwest peeps, unite!!! This time we're giving everyone plenty of warning. Take the day off work or school and come play with us in Chicago! Right now, the basic plan is to meet in the afternoon and talk and maybe walk around a bit and then move onto dinner. If everything works out I'm sure some after-dinner drinking will be on the menu. Final meet-up point to be determined. Let stine or myself know if you're attending. Come to Chicago December 1st and feel the power of PUNK ROCK! Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 16:58:13 2001 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:58:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Plane crash Message-ID: Alternatively it was hijacked and heading for the UN Building where a meeting was about to convene to discuss the which future government would be putin place in Afghanistan. Remarkably also at nine oclock and precisely 2 months after the other attacks. Everyone reports hearing an explosion on the plane which entered radio silence just 4 minutes after take off. The sky was full with F-16s. Will we ever get to the bottom of this incredibly coincidental 'accident'? Maybe it'll fade into the same amnesia space as the russian airliner from Israel that blew-up mysteriously just after the semptember 11th incident over the black see. >From: "JAMES GILMER" >Reply-To: "JAMES GILMER" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Plane crash >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:44:57 -0500 > >On the off chance anyone else can't get into the news sites (many of them >are crashing due to high server loads) or can't see their TVs. > >An A-300 Airbus crashed in the Far Rockaway area of Queens just after take >off for a schedualed flight to the Dominican Republic. 255+ passengers >aboard. > >Right now, it looks like the engine either burned out and ignited the fuel >tanks, causing and explosion that sheared the engine and wing off, or >another mechanical failure happened which caused the engine to seperate >from >the wing. > >The A-300 series has been involved in 8 major accidents worldwide since its >inception in the 70's, right now the accident is believed to be unrelated >to >any terrorist activity and is assumed to be mechanical. > >At least twelve buildings are on fire in the Far Rockaway area. > >Jim > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Nov 12 22:46:14 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:46:14 EST Subject: Sinister: P.S and P.P.S Message-ID: <128.773b384.2921ab36@aol.com> 'lo all! I have had a wonderful time lately, everything is behaving itself as it should. My best friend and I have had a great few weeks, and now she is a Belle and Sebastian convert! We watched a great movie together called "Mon Uncle" or something like that, it was a really good criticsm of modern life, with the main charceter, a french man who denies himself the luxery for the love of his nefew. Saturday I worked all day and this punk rock-ie girl saved me at six to go have some fun. We went out for milkshakes and then tried to find some people who were going to a party, alas, they never showed up. So we hung out in the closed train station, talking to a cabby and finally went back to a diner where they have kereokee (which was her name durring summer school) It was supposed to be a grand time, we hung out in a laundromat with some boys, then went back to the diner and my ex showed up, made a scene and I walked home. It wasn't great fun, but it was a time. Sometimes I miss just sitting around, and shes good fun. This week is going to be great, I had today off of good old highscool for veterans day, have school tuesday and wednesday and have Thursday and Friday off for parent teacher confrences. I am a little worried about that, but it'll be ok. I also dont have to work because I told them I was going to look at some schools. How nice! I also am going to have a great weekend full of going to museums! HOw fun! I'm going to see something about vomit friday! SO excited! Much love, kate P.S. List crushes- good enough, yet do you really trust them? Its all in good fun unless they live closs enough to meet... P.P.S. I really like the Idea of chirtmas exchange, who is it who really likes purple, I know what to do for you! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 00:01:04 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I reminded myself of the words you said... Message-ID: <20011113000104.67591.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> PLANE CRASH Just a reminder: As far as I know, the investigation goes on. We shouldn't jump to any conclusions. This plane crash in NY today is a horrible tragedy in itself. I hate this war, don't get me wrong. But I also hate all of the other unjust deaths that occur every minute of every day. I just feel like this war doesn't need to be fed any more fuel than it already has. Sensationalism is one of the enemies, too. As is propaganda. I won't feed into it and I won't swallow it, either. I'm on a cerebral hunger strike when it comes to this topic. That's all I can say for now. love, Rachel Fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Nov 12 23:52:06 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:52:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: My Wandering Days Are Just Beginning Message-ID: hello everyone, I'm going to unsubscribe from Sinister later this evening. Or maybe tomorrow. You see I'm flying to America on Wednesday and I don't want to come back to a million mails. My US holiday will be phun. I'm going to Boston to see a friend, and then we're going to get the train down to New York to sample the delights of the city that never sleeps. And then I'll go on to W*A*S*H*I*N*G*T*O*N (baby) D*C to meet more of my friendly friends and look at some random museum, either that one about aeroplanes and stuff if I'm in the mood for noble endeavour, or the Holocaust one if I'm on for thinking about humanity's flawed nature. I don't post as much as some people, but what I do is I save up mails I intend replying to. After a while I realise I have too many mails to reply to, many of them from ages ago, so if I replied to them all this post would be i) too long and ii) refer to things everyone's forgotten, so I'll try and edit for relevance. Gráinne said: > Your muscles have been sore all day, due to the fact that > last night you slept curled up in a curled in a ball, because to stretch out a > leg meant leaving the only warm part of the bed. this reminded me of my sleep alone years in a rather parky flat, where it took me several cold winters to realise that there was nothing stopping me from buying an extra duvet. I recommend doing just that, they're far less hassle than lovers. Gráinne also mentioned some Sinister Christmas Present Exchange Thing. what's this all about? Is it like a Kris Kindle thing where some authority figure assigns each person someone on the list someone they have to send a little present to? That sounds top, I'm all for it. Do marginal Sinisterlisters like me get to play too? Also, does it ever get rigged so that the authority figure gets 20 presents while everyone else is lucky to get one? Meanwhile, Staralful said of the Belfast gig thing: > Anywho fellow irish men and irish women i call on you today to all attend > the gig as i want to know how dirty the dirty vicar is. I'm pretty dirty, let me tell you, the moral equivalent of those people who bathe once every six months whether they need it or not. Actually, I am one of those people. I'm contemplating buying an ordinary ticket to the gig and not getting the Dublin fun bus... you know, staying over in Belfast and stuff. more time for going to unbelievably parky picnic style things, and no danger of being caught short on the bus home. I have to salute the majesty of Andre's friend Catherine and her My Wandering Days Are Over dance. Nicccce. We should all learn and practice the dance and frighten people by breaking into it should they play MWDAO in Belfast. Rener said > 4) my and dirtyvicar's pet coffee and milkshake place, > cafe soleil in soho, is gone! in its place is a > horrible trendy yuppie cafe. boo. we were annoyed. Yes we were. That's the kind of thing that happens in Celtic Tiger Dublin, it's not meant to happen in grimy miserable London. Still, at least Zentralli's is still Zentralli's. I'm thinking of getting married so I can book eXreme elvis for the reception. I love Elvis. J Emanuel E told us his Miami stories, but it did call to mind how un-B&Sey a town Miami is. At least in my stereotypical imagination, anyway. Although I do like to think of B&S playing a gig there in beach clothes, with loads of stereotypical babes in bikinis getting all jiggy to songs like Seeing Other People or Jonathan David. I'd buy that for a dollar. Or maybe it could turn into the Windowlicker video and all the jiggy babes would end up with Stuart Murdoch's face. Genevieve, meanwhile, said: > Staralful was not being so sweet on Dublin which made me a bit disappointed > because I was just entertaining the possibility of visiting. Don't be listening to him, corkies feel like they're under some kind of moral obligation to run down Dublin because they aren't cool enough to live here. Still, Cork has a great Shadow Over Innsmouth vibe going, so it's not to be knocked. And maybe I'll stop now, as I have to get some sleep preparatory to my big journey. Bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 00:33:00 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:33:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Plane crash Message-ID: a) the engine basically seems to have fell off the plane today b) The Ukrainian govt admitted it shot down the airliner on the way from Israel c) it was 2 months and one day so any crap conspiracy theories dont work d)I'm tired and fed up e) B&S content: I like B&S f) List crushes; i had one once. Once in this context was 2 years ago. I never found out who it was. >From: "Andy Flynn" >Reply-To: "Andy Flynn" >To: patchworkz7 at msn.com, sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Re: Sinister: Plane crash >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:58:13 +0000 > > >Alternatively it was hijacked and heading for the UN Building where a >meeting was about to convene to discuss the which future government would >be >putin place in Afghanistan. Remarkably also at nine oclock and precisely 2 >months after the other attacks. Everyone reports hearing an explosion on >the plane which entered radio silence just 4 minutes after take off. The >sky was full with F-16s. > >Will we ever get to the bottom of this incredibly coincidental 'accident'? >Maybe it'll fade into the same amnesia space as the russian airliner from >Israel that blew-up mysteriously just after the semptember 11th incident >over the black see. > > >>From: "JAMES GILMER" >>Reply-To: "JAMES GILMER" >>To: sinister at missprint.org >>Subject: Sinister: Plane crash >>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:44:57 -0500 >> >>On the off chance anyone else can't get into the news sites (many of them >>are crashing due to high server loads) or can't see their TVs. >> >>An A-300 Airbus crashed in the Far Rockaway area of Queens just after take >>off for a schedualed flight to the Dominican Republic. 255+ passengers >>aboard. >> >>Right now, it looks like the engine either burned out and ignited the fuel >>tanks, causing and explosion that sheared the engine and wing off, or >>another mechanical failure happened which caused the engine to seperate >>from >>the wing. >> >>The A-300 series has been involved in 8 major accidents worldwide since >>its >>inception in the 70's, right now the accident is believed to be unrelated >>to >>any terrorist activity and is assumed to be mechanical. >> >>At least twelve buildings are on fire in the Far Rockaway area. >> >>Jim >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >>+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >>+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >>+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >>+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >>+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >>+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 01:09:09 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita 99) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:09:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: need a room? and other stuff Message-ID: Hello lovelies, I will start with obvious and abusive list abuse. If anyone is in need of a cheap room to rent in Greenwich, in two weeks time, with a package of furniture and lovely, lovely flatmates, please email me for more details. Sorry for taking your time, the rest won't be that abusive. The reason why my room is to rent is because I found a job. For nice car company, with a nice salary. The only problem is, it is in Paris you see. Hence I have to move out and go back to France. Thing that I am really not willing to do; reason why I have been grumpy since Friday when I should be drinking and celebrating the fact that in the crap economic situation some employer is actually willing to pay some serious money for me. Enough of this, I am going to cry. The Lucksmiths were brilliant a couple of weeks ago, supporting Hefner. Hefner were good too, they didn't play too many new songs and lots of old good ones. It was a great night. I am going to be 22 in 8 days, and because I am moving back I don't even have time for a proper birthday party. Plus I discovered a couple of white hair on my head last week. I am not sure I am willing to be 22 in these conditions. I have no choice I suppose. If you don't hear from me for a while, it might be because I will need to unsubscribe for a bit and I am already fed up with goodbyes before they even started. Anyway... I hate plane crashes, they always give me nightmares. They also make me think I am right to be scared of planes, but then I know in 2 months someone will tell me again "but planes are the safest!". Yeah, right. Sweet dreams all Elena xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mclaudia at xxx.br Tue Nov 13 01:20:43 2001 From: mclaudia at xxx.br (Claudia) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:20:43 -0200 Subject: Sinister: wandering alone Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011105192656.009f3260@pop.openlink.com.br> Hello everyone, All this community idea is new to me... I was very eager to write...hope it works... My name is Claudia and I live in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil... I guess there's no need to say I love B&S... I went to their concert here (october 25) and it was magnificent.. I talked about it more than a million times and still can't believe how great it was... There are no words to describe that show...Anyway, if anyone would like to know about it, just ask... I'll do my best to be fair with it... I like other bands as well (Mojave 3, Hefner, Radiohead, Pearl Jam, Ben Harper, Velvet Underground, Amphetameanies, Smiths, some brazilian music and so many other stuff) I'm 21 years old, law student (just for one more year)... I've read the messages posted and I confess I got a little envy (a good kind of envy... if that exists) because university life around the world is different from here... I don't live in dorms, I didn't have to move out of town, there isn't a student journal in my university (at least not a worthy one) and the musical scene here is pretty bad.. Anyway, people are great here, I have lovely friends... It's nice to see all those messages with all those young at hearts and stuff (ooops, sounded like tears for fears... sorry) I guess life is all about being in and out of love. Sometimes it may be disappointing and hurtful, but it still worth a try... (as many as needed..) Well, to finish my first post I have a doubt and maybe someone can help me: is Beans Chris? Why? Cause all the pics at BS home page in which Chris appears theres a legend written 'Beans'... I wonder why... Long enough for a first post... Cheers, Claudia ICQ 40712163 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 03:07:29 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:07:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: love is the drug Message-ID: ~sign of the times~ so, today i was in the dinnertime line of the cafeteria at work when i noticed a stack of little chocolate mints on sale for 15 cents each. the candy wrappers were white, with the american flag emblazoned on the front. above was a sign saying that procedes from the sales went to some 9/11 relief group of some kind. i purchased 5 for 75 cents, thinking about how i would be sweet and share the milky minty chocolatey goodness with co-workers. as i hopped on the electric cart that i drive around the facilites to head back to my work area (it's like one of those golf carts), i took a closer look at the packaging on my chocolates. "procedes to benefit sodexho employee relief fund". now i'm being told that sodexho had no facilities that were hurt 9/11. ok, so i don't mind giving up some change for another company to be able to help their employees during duress, but don't lie to me. sheesh. could "sodexho employee relief fund" mean that their employee relief fund is giving to 9/11 funds? eghad, don't ask me. i'm so untrustworthy of so many charities anymore. ~virginia plain~ your miss amy had to work all weekend. the bonus: saturdays are time + 1/2 an hour pay. sundays are double time. yow. good thing, i need it! i was beginning to wonder how christmas was going to turn out for my people. so, anyway, there i was, just sittin' on yr car (sorry, i drifted into beth orton lyrics...) anyway. so, there i was, thinking my weekend was ruined. i still planned to go out after my shift saturday night and make the most of it. and, since i don't feel like sharing the evenings events with too many others, i'll share them with you! since the likes of *drama* *emotion* *crushes* & *FEELING* are so well received here. ~dance away~ i run home to primp and (i think) i was delightfully cute and feeling good. a quick listen to "me and the major" and i was on my way. i waltz into the bar and 3 tables full of people are shouting for me, jumping up, grabbing me, spinning me around, kissing me, hugging me, telling me they love me. there was a little "croak me" action on stage, so i did a hesitant rendition of "dancing queen" with my friend christina, only to find out she kept her microphone off the whole time! the farging icehole! how rude. i sounded like snot dripping from a vaporized kleenex too. for shame. ~same old scene~ i'm dancing with boys. one in particular, i've had, "relations" with in the past. i don't know him very well, sadly. and i hate to be in that situation, so i don't usually put myself in it. we had a great talk. talking about the whole do's and don'ts of the one night stand. he's a few years older than i. divorced, with children. and definetely not "my type", but we connect on certain levels. he made me feel really good about myself, in this way i've never experienced before. i felt so uncertain of my judgements and self-esteem after our tryst awhile ago. i analyze too heavily and put too much stress on myself. i mean, come on, we were both consenting, friendly adults who enjoyed eachother for the evening. why did i eat my heart out, at the age of 28 for crying out loud, for the next month?! i dunno. as i get older, i want to feel better about the decisions i make. i rarely do. amy=grey area. i can see every side of every situation, and i more or less dig myself into a big dissing hole every time. no need for that. it's that damn fantasy of finding the sweet sinister-type of boy to whisk me away, and why would i "give into sin" again when something that good could be on the horizon? whatever. but that's not all. ~lets stick together~ ok. here it is. i like girls too. it's not as easy as saying "i am bisexual". it's really not that simple, not that complex either. it all depends on the person. definetely and ultimately. i don't leave my home and drool over every one that walks by (that is, unless it's a really good day, ha). i don't really get attracted to someone until i've gotten to know them a bit. and it's, more often than not, men that i am ultimately interested in. my friend christina has been curious for years, but, alas, she is married. the thing about christina and i is that we are eachother's best friends. i wouldn't say ever, 'cuz i have other chick friends i've been close to for absolute years, but you get the idea. in the here and now, i rely on christina tons, and she, i. i am hoping to move from the area within the year, and this is devastating her. i had an after party after the bar, lots of happy people cavorting through my humble home. christina dragged me into the bathroom, pressed her forehead to mine, and began to ruminate on her love for me, and how if i go it will kill her. i make her small town life better, she says. "i don't know what i'd do without you." her eyes are crying, which makes me bust out. i continue, "christina, you know i'm miserable here, i'm not meeting anyone i can share my life with, my job is unfulfilling, my house is too expensive for my single self, i need to be in a larger city...etc...." feeling sad. i've only felt good about the decision to move until then. she's pressing her forehead back into mine, "amy, i want nothing more than for you to be happy. i want you to go out there and really meet someone. you are so due for love and happiness, amy.... i love you so much..." she kisses me. not a nifty lil' peck on the cheek or lips. she open mouth kisses me. and i am lost in it. ~these foolish things~ it went on for some time. then, foreheads still meeting, we giggle. the rest of the night was stolen kisses. my divorcee' fling even caught us once. oh dear! there was no lost confusion to it. there was no "teasing", there were no sexual expectations. sometimes a love can turn you inside out so deeply that when you find the key to releasing it, you turn it and let it go. that's what these kissings were. simply delightful. sure, waking up sunday i had pings of self-hatred over kissing a married woman! i'm friends with her husband. sometimes, when i get out of work, and christina is still working herself, i stop at her house and visit with her husband, sometimes he visits me. it's a tight unit. so, yeah, it feels bad when i think of him and think of saturday night. but, i don't feel guilty as far as the big aspect of everything goes. it happened between 2 friends who are often lost together. i can't try to justify it. and i'm not going to. it happened. it's not like i stole her, the car, the house and shot him in the gut. he's tough and sincere, he may even understand. but why put him through the knowing if it *might* cause him some undo stress? it's not like it's going to happen again. it was an emotional moment we were lost in. let me not go on about all that. ouch. ~more than this~ that line i wrote, "when you find the key to releasing it, you turn it and let it go" (meaning love). you could liken that to the list crush debate. i'd like to apologize if i offended anyone with what i had to say about that before. it was just the hurt of my past coming back to haunt me (and you). i understand how and why these cross-border, distance and time romances happen. they were the story of my life for awhile there. my first " *serious* " boyfriend was an exchange student. from brazil. that doomed me. it set a pace for the relationships to come. oh, yes, it did. ~pyjamarama~ so, my fierce and independent streak is over again, for now. all of that flirty kissy wispy stuff brought it all back. i want some damn love! *sigh* but, alas, i shall head to bed alone and pet my kitties until sleep takes over (or this damn sinus headache goes away, oooh the pain) ~oh yeah~ so, i hope i haven't been toooo ... confessional style on y'all. i just really needed to sit and write about it all for a bit. unlocking the leftover key, you see. and please excuse the roxy music themes, i've got street life blissfully on random play. sometimes i hate roxy music. not today. at all. caleb ben moore's description of his new haircut and hat reminds me of rik mayall from the young ones! the people's poet! yay! hee ;) there's been some really bootiful posts lately. thank you all. thank you for carson, thank you for poems, thank you for breakfast club inspired meet up descriptions, thank you for bringing belle and sebastian along for your rides. waking up to us is supposed to be out on the 16th, right? chicago meet-up. i'd like to. take me on a rollercoaster, take me for an airplane ride, amy/rachel applejacks (home: dotsandloops at yahoo.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 04:14:46 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 04:14:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Christmas Present Exchange Or How Laura Got Even More Mix Tapes Message-ID: I hate Thanksgiving. Don't worry it's not because of principle so I'm not about to start off on a rant of "Dear Lord, thank you for all our material possessions we have and for letting us whiteys slaughter all the Native Americans while we steal their tribal lands and gorge ourselves like pigs, even though children in Asia are being napalmed." No, I just generally hate how my house is lent to strangers for one day and I have to suffer under the restraints of acting as if I'm a charismatic outgoing hostess. Last year as I was being ushered into the front room by my mother to talk to our guests (two of which - suspiciously - were males who were my age, either one of which my mother would just happen to be ecstatic if I liked, dated, married, and ended up having kids with as I popped out the grandchildren like an easy bake oven to her welcoming arms) I saw my chance. Some loud bang occurred in the kitchen and as my mother flurried off to see what was wrong I slipped out the door, slid into my car, and was soon careening over the curves of my mountain road with no thoughts of social gatherings. I ended up in South Carolina sneaking up to the third floor of the bookstore and by the faint glimmers coming in from the skylight bonding with David Sedaris, another North Carolinian whose family puts the eak! in phreak!, by reading Me Talk Pretty One Day. It was the best Thanksgiving ever, especially after my sister told me of all the bewildered looks that went around the table as they sat down to eat and noticed I was missing. Devilish. However, Thanksgiving is the only holiday which I have feelings bordering on hatred for. Halloween is my favorite. And ever since I started thinking of Christmas as the time of year when Humbert Humbert slides into his fuzzy red suit, straps on the thick black belt, and lays in wait for the young girls to come a climbing on his lap to give his beard a tug I can't help but get in the festive mood for some eggnog. Thus, I've decided to completely skip Thanksgiving this year and to move right on in to Christmas. As such I will be answering the furtive call of many sinisterines as to what about the **************SINISTER CHRISTMAS PRESENT EXCHANGE******************** Though I'm willing to collect the names and assign the partners, I'm rubbish at explaining things. Joanna did a lot better job of describing the entire process last year than I could ever hope to do. Thus, if you want a general notion of what this is about or ideas for gifts and such then refer to her post of: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200012/msg00018.html It's just for those who want to participate (even if you're in the nursery still though we might cutesy wutesy you just an ittle wittle pacifier wier) and not mandatory by any means. Of course, this year you'll need to send me an e-mail to LLeweth at yahoo.com with your: * Name * Full Address * The number of presents you would like to make (since it will correspond with the presents you will receive) Last year the exchange worked as a chain so that I might give a present to Sexy Steve Kado but he was giving a present to Katy "Dorothy Parker makes me want to gulp down bathtub gin, get in a bad relationship, and attempt suicide - all in that order" Harris in the hopes that participants would get to spread their "christmas cheer" with two people instead of just one. Fair enough. However, if you'd like to give and receive from the same person then tell me and I will put those people in a different pool. That's it! Well, plus, you all have to not realize that, oddly enough, you're all sending presents to Miss Laura Llew in North Carolina. She needs the lovin', baby Laura "now it's time to meet all of Laura Llew's needs which have been severely lacking since 1977" PS - I finally chose a winner of the TRANSATLANTIC MIS TAPE CHALLANGE to discover that there's at least five more tapes out there that haven't been completed and sent yet. Thus, I have to make a deadline. To be in the contest the tapes have to be in the mail to me (postmarked!) before the end of this year. This will give those of you plenty of time to wrap things up. Plus, you'll just be able to slip it right in there with your Christmas present to me! (See how thoughtful I am?) If anyone else new wants to partcipate, all you need to do is to come up with your best mix tape and send it to me. Simply e-mail me for my address when you're ready to mail it and I shall officially enter you into the competition. There are no rules - no time limits for the tapes or anything like that. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 04:31:22 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:31:22 -0600 Subject: Sinister: helga? Message-ID: <4B3796F916E3E9A438914001E261286D@chinacat81.wildmail.com> yesterday was my day off. i decided to drive an hour west to madison to do a bit of shopping....sometime in the early afternoon, i was sitting in my car in a parking structure, nervously fumbling through my pockets for the scrap of paper with elise's phone number on it. i hoped she wasn't busy...ten minutes later, there was a rendevouz at the cat's meow, and soon after we traded secrets and spent a lovely afternoon traipsing around madison, trying on dresses and funny little hats, eating ice cream cones, staring wide-eyed at a hello kitty sticker photo booth, and giggling at vibrating nipple clamps. and we saw spats, too. the gift for the man who has everything. elise is positively lovely, and i could not have wished for a better day off. my mom just looked up from the newspaper and nonchalantly informed me that i "missed a good sermon at church yesterday." it was strange...she said it as though it were something uncommon. missing church, that is. i mumbled something. and she said "yah, it was about living every day like it's your last." then she said "oooh, look, another review for amelie" and something about the "cute girl." she went back to reading. all i can think is that this better not be my last day, or i'll be pretty bummed. well, i guess i won't, really, because...well. you know what i mean.... tonight started innocently enough. jon was studying for a botany exam. leslie and i were scribbling in a notebook. then things just got out of hand...the botany sketches...animals were added...various props were added...a masterpiece was created in blue ink..."bambi" meets "i love you, alice b. toklas." (a horrid film....but if you've never seen peter sellars with his shirt off...well. heh. it's fun.) we were sitting around and giggling and acting like total idiots, and the waitress came over and saw, and she laughed. she has this laugh that sounds like "ss-ss-ss" and it's quite irritating. once she tried to make me a lutheran, and i said no thank you and now she gives me funny looks all the time. if i were to live as though this were my last day.....i wonder what i'd do. *shrug* love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ma-yummy at xxx.jp Tue Nov 13 07:47:51 2001 From: ma-yummy at xxx.jp (mayumi mune) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:47:51 +0900 Subject: Sinister: The Scottish bunch rendered this Japanese spinster knocked out! Message-ID: <000c01c16c17$842a5920$4d968dd2@kikk4491> They finally came to Japan and made Osaka fans sufficiently overwrought. Mr.Stevie's dulcet singing killed me every minute. Stuart's second-to-none dancing caused me to dance on my own nonchalantly, having made me forget my age. Isobel's was nice either.(and Waiting for Sarah to sing!) I've got a terrible backache now but don't give a fiddler's fart! Anyway they made my day. Yesterday morning I didn't know their actual gig. Last night I knew. That's big difference to me even though I feel now as if my reverie was over. But the dream was actually there, fully seen and felt. Thank you all of them for coming to a far cry Japan. from:mayummy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From figure2 at xxx.net Tue Nov 13 12:12:40 2001 From: figure2 at xxx.net (figure2 at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:12:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: rock'n'roll bus Message-ID: <20011113121240.QSAO3187.fep06-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> I shouldn't really be writing right now. Big and wee things wracking one's sensibility but, more than anything else, I should be not here, not anywhere. Shouldn't have been. Last night I met a guy who had become, in the preceeding hours, the father of his third child. Same age as me, I think. He bought me a drink and we christened her something. *In absentia*. She was with her mother and he stormed off under the falsely dawning suspicion that I was gay to go relieve the nanny of the other two. Given a dose of limbic sensibility what you *actually* do is placed in something of a contrast to what you want. Extrapolating a little farther into society in general: if one is perceived to be amongst the servant classes; you'll be abused, which places one awkwardly: neither wishing to abuse nor wishing to be abused... where am I? I tend to snicker and make rude comments which is, as you know, rather pathetic. The difference between served and servant is not social class; beauty; wealth or perception: it is attitude, and this attitudional game stinks. The gentleman/woman state is won of hard experience of how we *all* live: fakes, queens, tramps, malcontents, middle, upper and lower classes, marmosets, zebras... the daily gamut of those encountered in life, dreams and nightmares. There exists a possibility of structure in mad situations: only the madman recognises it, and the bored are charmed by it and the sensible are alarmed by it. There is no difference here in the horror and anger we all feel so, we remain in the safety of humanity. Boundaries are not pushed beyond this: to attempt is delusion. Understand your enemy. Why not kill enemies? Because they've become friends. So (I paraphrase) said an ex US President. Wheecht! I like intense, slowly. This is Gordon/gogron/rouss's E-mail now. It deflates me to announce this: makes me feel bad to know I'm not someone other than me: a person who doesn't want to change because he has a humourless mastery of trash that shall remain unrelinquished. In any case: change requires another. Balancing act. Forgive my abruptness here but I spent 20 years playing 'piggy in the middle'. I have the capacity but hardly the inclination. If it's any consolation, I'm much prettier than I was a few days ago. Not exactly tall dark and handsome, but ok enough to greet the eyes in sad lust at every girl on Princes' St. And on the bus, listening to 'Last Nite'. It's a bit weird writing posts to sinister. Things are a bit weird. I know one should put on a brave face but, the hell! let's SCREAM!!!! Gordon, who is going to watch 'legally blonde' _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 12:52:40 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 04:52:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I want a sillustration of me! *whinge* Message-ID: <20011113125240.75804.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all... *burp* Coca Cola (where did the Coke thing come from) has made me a bit gassy. You know, I started to write this long long e mail to you yesterday, but you know what happened? I hit a key and my computer ate my e mail. So now you'll have to do with this half-baked effort. There should be a recovery key for things you accidentally loose, and no, not "undo" or anything, cos it happened while I had my e mail account open. Anyway.. moving swiftly on... Changes in the fanzine have meant that my co editor is laving, and I'm gonna be the soul guardian of my fanzine. Theres all sort of things to do, but I think it will be a challenging job- trying to write stuff that doesn't bore me, cos if it does, then you nobody else will want to read it. So if any of you fancy the idea of helping out with a bit of babysitting or whatever for the little 'zine tyke, then I'd be much obiliged. I had a dream last night that I went into a job that involved my degree. Scary. But something I ought to consider. Afterall, I'm not much good for much else. Although I can hold a door open if you ask me to. I'm a it down in the dumps about things at the moment. My job isn't challenging the right bits of me; I'm living at home with parents and I don't want to be; my room is a mess and I dunno if its worth buying new stuff from Ikea or to keep it messy as an incentive to move out; I have too many clothes and can't decide what to get rid of; What I do want to get rid of I can't get rid of (ie. my podge) and I'm just feeling a bit crap over all.I think that website friendserunited is a bad idea. It shows me how much better everyone who was in my class at school is doing and makes me feel a little crap in comparrison. MSN.co.uk is scary as well. Flick your mouse cursor over the banner and ROBBIE WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!! fills your screen and that has two deterimental effects: 1.nausea 2. Everyone in your office/school will think you're a ROBBIE WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fan. And neither of these are a very good thing. Except if you're at school, you could use the excuse of nausea to skive for the rest of the day. ANyway, must go, people need to think I'm working. Love Idles xxxxx Idle boyfiend and I have been playing around with our guitars in our respective little homes of Scotland (moi) and Bournemouth (him) and come up with a little tune that sounds really quite good. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 13:09:48 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:09:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Am I Still Ill? Message-ID: Do you know, I solved all the problems of the NHS yesterday? Well, in my head, that is, whilst lying on a trolley coughing and hoping someone would notice me. The woman on the next trolley had pneumonia and the man over the way had had some nasty reaction to Prozac. Elsie, in the bay around the corner, had fallen of the toilet and was having difficulty making herself understood to the South African woman with the joint degree in physiotherapy and condescention. So, the problems with the NHS are: too much gossiping and not enough organisation. Oh, and stupid people like me, of course, who go to the doctor's surgery for some antibiotics and a quick go on the nebuliser for a nasty cold, and end up being sent to the hospital across town for a chest X-ray to make sure there's no clot on my lungs. I had meant to go to the doctor, and leave in plenty of time to make it to my lecture at 11 o'clock and then work at 3 o'clock. Little did I know I would be begging the consultant to let me out of the hospital at 11 o'clock AT NIGHT. I had an X ray done at 4 o'clock, seven hours before I was finally released. I kept asking if they were going to admit me overnight(because if they were I had to start working on my escape plan) and they kept saying they had to review my X ray. When the doctor finally looked at it, it took him no more than three minutes. He realised that I was not going to die and promptly (kind of....) let me out. I feel bad for moaning about the NHS, as they are over worked and under paid and have to put up with ungrateful time wasters like me. But all I wanted to do was go home...... And, much to my shame, I kept having to run off and have a little cry in the patient toilets that had no locks on the doors. AND the only books I had to entertain me were an Anthology of Critial Theory (there's only so much cheering up that Freud and Marx can offer a girl) and White Noise by Don Delillo (also, nothing much there to make a poor girl smile, unless it's in a bitter, ironic type way at the misery of life and the fear of death). AND I couldn't smoke fags, but that has kick started my giving up smoking regime, and I am now proud to say that I haven't had a cigarette since 3.30 pm on Sunday. I have, instead, taken to sniffing my smoky clothes and sniffing the two Silk Cut that I have hidden under the bed. Posts from now on will be filled with bitterness and rage and nicotine craving like never before. I've been smoking since I was a wee slip of a thing, 14 years old, and I used to smoke Embassy No 1 with my first boyfriend. We'd hide on Loughborough University Campus on our way home from school and furtively smoke and make out. Every good (and bad) thing in my life involved smoking. I'm not just Madeleine, I'm Madeleine who smokes fags. I think I'll go and listen to Hefner's Hymn For the Cigarettes and cry myself to sleep, to dream. Love and Nicorette Madeleine xxxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilker at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 13:11:22 2001 From: tigermilker at xxx.com (mark w) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:11:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Speculation Message-ID: Andy said: > >Alternatively it was hijacked and heading for the UN Building where a >meeting was about to convene to discuss the which future government would >be >putin place in Afghanistan. Remarkably also at nine oclock and precisely 2 >months after the other attacks. Bollocks. 2 months and a day, if my arithmetic is correct. And the UN building is on Rockaway Beach is it? News to me. >Will we ever get to the bottom of this incredibly coincidental 'accident'? >Maybe it'll fade into the same amnesia space as the russian airliner from >Israel that blew-up mysteriously just after the semptember 11th incident >over the black see. Yes, we will get to the bottom of this, accident or otherwise. That, however, is the job of the investigators at the NTSB and other agencies. Uninformed speculation like this just panics the public and serves no purpose. The airliner over the black sea was shot down by the Ukrainians by mistake, as they admitted the next day. James said: > >Right now, it looks like the engine either burned out and ignited the >fuel > >tanks, causing and explosion that sheared the engine and wing off, or > >another mechanical failure happened which caused the engine to seperate > >from > >the wing. > > Wow. Have you told the FAA this? It will take them weeks to come to a conclusion like that. Elena said: >I know in 2 months someone >will tell me again "but planes are the safest!". Yeah, right. It's the truth. I know it doesn't seem like it just now, but you have more chance of popping your clogs as you cycle round the town or on the drive to the airport. Rachel said: > >PLANE CRASH >Just a reminder: As far as I know, the investigation goes on. We >shouldn't jump to any conclusions. This plane crash in NY today is a >horrible tragedy in itself. I couldn't agree more. Let's just mourn the dead and wait for the facts to emerge in due course. They always do. Sorry if this post has been a little sharp. mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 14:50:32 2001 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (Joan of Dark) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:50:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Pressies Exchange / Wisdom Disclosed Message-ID: Eeeeeeek!! Just when I had finished composing my post to Sinister, saying that , yes, I could undertake the Sini Presents Exchange this year as well, as so many people seemed to want it back, and I was about to send it to you all� ��I checked my inbox again and�.there it was! Ms Llew�s post!! Eeeeek eeeek! Good that I thought of checking the inbox before pressing �send�!! So now I have to type it all from the beginning��. Meeeaaaaoow! Anyway� I�m happy to see that there seems to be someone else apart from me who�s willing to organise it this year! It�s a unique experience�brings the spirit of christams all the more earlier! So� just a few pices of useful advice I gained from last years organising�� 1) First of all PLEASE consult the archives for my post that I link HeRe: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200012/msg00018.html it is crucial that you do so if you would like to participate so that you will understand the spirit of it and the way the whole thing is organised and carried out. 2) Here I would also like to quote a part of another post of mine from last year, giving the last few details http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200012/msg00053.html a)If the present requires some personal details of the receiver so as to be completed and any of the persons that are making something would like to ask for some details so as to personalise their gift and make it perfect, just drop me (Laura in this case) a line and I will be the one to ask her what her bust size is or whether he prefers peach to strawberry lip gloss.......... b)There has been a misunderstanding .Many of the newest memebrs or people that don't post oftenly thought that this exchange was only for the frequent pos(t)ers and thus asked me whether they were allowed to take part......The answer is a big smiling YES/ JA/ OUI/ NAI/ SI/ KE/ HAI/ SIM/ AYE/ DA (thanks to #sinister ) .Everybody who has subsribed to sinister is very VERY welcome!!!! We are getting sqeezy here, we have already started poking each other to make some room , so ...people come and lets all get cuddled up!!!But for god's sake keep your hands OFF the other people's private body parts......(speaking of which....... http://www.missprint.org/sinister/bodyparts/ This is the real spawn of SINister.....) 3) Here I would like to say that unfortunately ,things did not work out exactly the way we all wished for them to �And I feel I should disclose the reasons why here� The thing is that many people thought it would be very nice if they took part as they seemed to be willing to make and send their presents-at first-�. But to a large extend this did not happen�I ,for example, only got 2 of the 5 presents I was entitled to�.And I was the one to organise it for Chrissakes!J ( a guy emailed me telling me that he could not send me my present because his girlfriend was jealous and would not let him�.so�eehhmmm� be sure that your beloved one will not bitch you over that as well!!:P) So I don�t want to think of what might have happened in the background� I still have the addresses of ALL the people and their exchange partners though ,and I could give it a try and send the addressses to them,asking them to please consider settling this matter first�. Because its really really bad, when someone has tried and sent the fruits of his efforts to someone, not to receive anything back , as a result of someone else�s boredom or negligence So PLEASE be sure that you want to do this, its not something that costy or tiring, it requires just the minimum consideration on the matter�.Don�t just apply in the spur of the moment�.But it�s vital you really want to do this But I heard so may really beautiful things that people made last year, I got green with envy!!! And ms Llew�..� Have you huGed a belle and sebastian fan today?�, we had the same present last year I guess! for everyone else�s information and a bit of advertising:� a lovely homemade t-shirt by Madame Katarina Karlsson from Sweden �. Showing how foxy Sinister Red Foxes copulate on the front.... and that phrase written on the back�. See what nice things you can get from Presents exchanges?? Niaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr!! *don�t worry, I�m going through that �I�m a cat� phase of my life* So..umm�.what else�. Noting I guess� I managed to creep out of my lurkedom and post a normal email to the list, apart from the sick sad stories I usually post�J So Laura dearest, if you want I can disclose my precious info on how to ObJeCtIvElY draw the partners (write the names down, check the sinister photo pages, keep all the cute boys for yourself or the ones with the nice names�.J and spare the others to the rest of the ones that have applied�)��..J just kidding�but you can always do tricks� last year I paired Brier Random with a Rob Collingwood that lived on �Brier�s Close street� in the UK�. Plus you get to know all those exotic places like Talinn and Ballybay, Ilkey, Wading River and Pisgah Forest ;) and street names like Via Borgo Tiano , Yanigin Drive, Hunt Trail. Odos Polymerh, Schmiedelgasse etc etc !! And your mailbox is flooded with emails addressed to yOu! Aaawwww! Now I miss organising it!!! Aaahhhh�next year��:) So, I�m off to get a haircut again�. I�ll be back soon with details on The Sinister Gathering in AtHeNs-GrEeCe on the occasion of Stacey Dahling�s birthday in Febrary;) now I guess I shouldn�t be telling that early eh, Stacey? Anyhoo�� Bye bye! Joan meeeaaaaooow! =^o^= U ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! Paint my floor green. Paint my ceiling black. Paint my walls blue. Paint my table white. Paint my door orange. Paint by piano pink. But I know that you cannot paint me. 800 Cherries �Painty Paint Pots� check this song out and tell me what you think�I find it fabulous! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 15:08:16 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "neil! is this some kind of sick joke? why isn't supper ready?" Message-ID: <20011113150816.75920.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> in response to amy's mention of rik mayall, all i have to say is that i have written a poem for cliff richard and it goes like this: "cliff, do you sometimes feel AS IF you REALLY ARE a cliff! with everyone trying to push you over it, something something something or ARE you cliff? or ARE you cliff?" sorry i kinda screwed that one up.....but thats ok, because i am the peoples poet! damn the fascists! other favourite young ones rik quote: "oh no! i've killed a hippy! i've killed a hippy and now i'll have to pay!" ha! props to amy for mentioning the young ones. viva rachels! caleb ben aka raw ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 16:24:33 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:24:33 0000 Subject: Sinister: 101 ways to prepare root vegetables. Message-ID: Hello there, haven't written for ages, so it may take a few lines for me to ease my fingers into action and get some words out. It doesn't help that my fingers are actually freezing cold. They are not behaving as usual and I am worried that I may be developing rheumatism, or some other condition that a seventeen year old really shouldn't have. I always forget that winter is cold. I mean, i know it is theoretically, but I forgetthat feeling when you walk along and everything stings with cold and you worry that your face is being blown around so much it will end up with the texture of a baked potato. I have a large corduroy/sheep wool coat to scare away jack frost, but he still paints my ears red and makes cold water soak up my flares to the knees. I like the fact that B+S are bringing out another single. I thought there may be a drought or even an end to their productivity after the flurry of, erm, productivity over summer. It will be nice to have something new to listen to in the winter because usually it is summer and I am happy anyway. Much more sensible to spread the smiles across the seasons. Today I am actually quite cheery because Manchester University have decided that i am responsible enough to turn into a doctor. i'm not convinced to be honest, but I like the idea of doing an operation with something like Belle and Sebastian in the background. Maybe I could convert patients whilst they were under anaesthetic. Hmm. I'm not sure these are the right kind of reasons to become a medical student. I watched 'Twister' on t.v last night. i have watched that film a disproportionate amount of times considering its level of quality. I just like the way they get in the centre of a hurricane and then stroll out with only a few hairs out of place in a 'messy but sexy' way. And the flying cows. heheh. cows. in the air. nothing better for comedy value. OOOH, the christmas pressie thing. That sounds fun. i did it last year and got some socks with toe sections and hair clips and stickers and ooh. yum. It's nice as well because you get to imagine who sent it. So that's an extra present of intrigue in itself. I am off to warm my tootsies and finger nail bits in a warmer room in the house, cheerio, Gracexxx ------------------------------------------------------- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. - Roger Hargreaves. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 17:12:06 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:12:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fox in the snow, allright! Message-ID: hey lovelies! i'm so sorry for my last post, i was a bit upset at the moment, but i'm happier now, so i'll wite a new post. and hopfully, a nicer one. anyway, i don't feel as bad about moving to sweden today. ok, maybe i'm nott the happiest ever about it, but i guess it'll work. still don't have a clue where we're gonna live though. i think that is what disturbs me the most. the not-knowing-anything-thing. i don't know how to handle that! i want to participate in the christmaspressent-thingy! that seems to be so grate! today it's coming lots of people to us. and i'll kind of die! it's my mother's friends who's having some sort of reunion or something... at our place!! why? she knows that i don't like being around lots of people, so why then? i jusat can't understand that! and i've got this huge english-test tomorrow. so i need it to be quiet so i can study! ok, that was just a stupid excuse. but really, i do have a test. though, my englishteacher loves me, so i know i'll get a good grade anyway. and i am the best one in our class in english, so i think it'll work out just fine. i got so jelaous when i red about the two lovely rachels day togehter. it were miss fruitloop and miss cornflake, right? maybe there was someone else, but in that way, i've forgotten it. sometime i've got to go to the us and meet the lovely sinisterpeople there. oh, you always seem to have such a good time! and i'm dead jelaous. oh, yes! the subject was "fox in the snow, allright!" so... i saw a fox today! in the snow, yes! ooh, it was lovely and i just sat there, smiling and thinking of belle & sebastian, and how grate stuart, lovely stuart looks. he must be the prettiest one alive! i'm a bit obsesset with him, but then, who isn't? hee hee. i've almost decided what songs i'm going to put on the rachel-mixt-tape. i bet our tape will be the gratest! i mean, we're rachels, right? rachels are probably the best in the world when it comes to mixed-tapes. oh, well. people are coming. angst. with all my love, rcahel orange juice _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 04:23:09 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:23:09 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i was looking for a job and then i found a job Message-ID: <001901c16cc5$aa778040$d6ed7ad5@aqlzosqt> robin very kindly forwarded my initial response to the plane crash in new york, and i repeat the sentiments today. hope you're all ok. meanwhile, i thought i'd belatedly add to the love debate with a nice quote from kurt vonnegut: "Love is where you find it. I think it is foolish to go looking for it, and I think it can often be poisonous. I wish that people who are conventionally supposed to love each other would say to each other, when they fight, 'Please - a little less love, and a little more common decency.'" it's true that love is too often used as an excuse for cruelty, hysteria, violence etc, as if it makes it ok. a crime of passion is still a crime. however, vonnegut's vision of a world where relationships are based on 'common decency' sounds a bit boring for me... i went to see harry potter on saturday. and it ROCKED like a gigantic... rocking horse. or something. a feel-good movie without the slightest recourse to the easy comforts of romantic love. matt and i are slightly worried about the trend towards all things childish, though. on our way back from the cinema we saw several large groups of youths dressed in school uniforms, going to school disco type clubs. they were about 18 - ie. it was 2 years max since they'd been wearing those uniforms for real. seems that nostalgia now sets in before we've even finished with the direct experience. does it all mean that the world as it is is just too horrible to contemplate living in fully? well, whatever, i think harry potter will go down as a classic of family cinema to rival the never-ending story (which let's face it looks a little naff now). i was pleased to see that the creators of pop idol (on which a friend of a friend appears) felt that a good sesh on the DDR machine was valuable training for the future rich and famous. so you're already half-way there, ken... i wonder what chart position Waking up to us will reach? b&s might be worried to learn that dannii minogue is amongst the competition that week. luv archel xxx ps. the crunchy library book seems ok now. pps. glad you liked your tape, arik. i hope my contribution to the mighty rachels effort will be as successful :) *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christiansmythe at xxx.com Tue Nov 13 19:35:26 2001 From: christiansmythe at xxx.com (Christian Smythe) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:35:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on New York Radio! Message-ID: This Friday WFUV in New York (www.wfuv.org) will feature B&S music all day, 6Am to 8PM. You can listen via their web site. WFUV is a publicly supported radio station (no commericals!) broadcast from Fordham University in the Bronx. Check it out! It should be great. This station is run by true music fans and they LOVE Belle & Sebastian. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob at xxx.uk Tue Nov 13 22:33:02 2001 From: rob at xxx.uk (Rob) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:33:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ouch - delurked Message-ID: <3BF19F9E.1236.CC63B6@localhost> Well I never thought I'd see my name mentioned on this lovely list, but now Joan of Dark has revealed my presence - I am the Rob of Brier Random's Close. I'm very glad the Christmas pressie exchange is on again, it's a wonderful idea and i received a couple of lovely pressies last year. My details will be winging their way to Laura Llew very soon. If anyone's going to see the White Stripes in Manchester on Wednesday and sees someone wearing a B&S ampersand t-shirt, say hello cos it might be me. -- Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Nov 14 00:20:18 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:20:18 Subject: Sinister: singing B&S to foxes. Message-ID: <189159190@spray.se> Hi all, just a short listabuse-thing to tell you all what i today did: today I sang fox in the snow to a real fox. Actually, it was at Skansen, like a big zoo, but the animals aren´t in cages, but in like.. bigger areas and so. I would´ve liked to sing it to a wild fox but I never see any so I thought this would be alright. I was very very red and looked at me whilst i was quietly singing to it. I did skip the parts when not talking about foxes, as I had quite short time alone, in the cold, all fluffed up in my corduroy coat before my two elder sisters + my oldest sister´s english boyfriend would catch up with me. So I sang: Fox in the snow where do you go to find something you could eat? Cause the word out on the street is you are starving don´t let youself grow hungry now don´t let youself go ocld fox in the snow and i sang when you legs are black and blue it´s time to take a break when you´re legs are black and blue it´s time to take a holidaaaay and then, at last: foooox in the snow.. foooox in the snow.. FOX IN THE SNOOOOOOW... And then it was all over. it was very nice for me, but i don´t know about the fox. it looked quite confused. maybe it thought: "this is _very_ strange.. is she insane? oh, wait, i recognize this.. oh yes, i remember now, this is the song that they sing to foxes.. it´s one of those mad B&S-fans again..ah, curse you stuart murdoch!" or maybe it was just confused. anyway it was very cute and i wanted to cuddle it. lots of love, Astrid x p.s don´t worry - there were two foxes - they hung out with some brown fluffy bearcubs, they were really cute together. and did you know that bears love lemons? i certainly didn´t. p.p.s i realise this is an awfully strange post. _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjacobso at xxx.edu Wed Nov 14 02:30:52 2001 From: cjacobso at xxx.edu (Carolyn Jacobson) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:30:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: hello...myfirsttime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Carolyn Jacobson wrote: > hello > This is my first time writing here, as I just joined the list about a month ago. I > thought I might write a poem and see what you think. It's untitled, but > feel free to give it one if the mood strikes. > > My tears were supressed by the freedom of falling. Floating through warm > open blackness. It was only the epitome of nothingness that allowed me to > see the invisible sky as a vast starfield. All that I need to survive is > my own emotions, and the willingness to solve my unbelieving brain. But > when it hurts too much to cry, and feels to good to smile, I unknowingly > stumble into an oblivion. All along the boundaries, bright purple flames > flickered and sparked. The crackling was louder than ever before, and the > violet light blinded me. I tried to escape the emptiness, but there was > no exit. There was no way out! Then, in the midst of all the commotion > that failed to exist, I felt the thump of my own heart. The force that > causes my heart to beat, continuously, had come when uncalled, and will > remain, until the nature of my unconscious occurs in that manner again. I > am back in place. > It was written during a time when much confusion was cluttering my life. > Here's one written about 3 weeks ago, about the ending of one > relationship that was dragged out too long, and the beginning of something > that ended before it began > And the mountains chavged colors slowly > and teh air froze mid-sentence > and I could just leave now > and never look back, at your face full of anger > You're my stranger that will never be again > and is it just a coincidence that he came around while you were gone? > or is it a mistake that I fell for you at all? > And the rain turned to sorrow > and the tears turned to isolation > and I could throw it all away now and never look at the photographs > You're no longer my affection that I need anymore > And is it just an accident that I ended up with someone? > Or is it my fate to be alone? > And your eyes filled up with pain disguised as anger > and your smile faded into the background > and I could see your heart sink below the ocean waves > you're around too much, but never with anything to say. > > It must be over. > nothing special, just a little bit of useless thoughts, clogging the brain...anyways, the one thing you all should know about me is that my favorite belle and sebastian song at this moment(for it changes frequently)is Expectation. > If you read this far, thanks, and I hope to get some opinions. > much love, > carolyn > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 11:04:24 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 03:04:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: people say... Message-ID: <20011114110424.67301.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Mark said "wait for the facts to emerge in due course. They always do." Mark is totally wrong. They never ALWAYS emerge. There are plenty of facts that have NEVER emerged, because of all sorts of reasons, like conspiracy theories and stuff. People don't always tell you all the facts. And sometimes, the facts hide, like little frightened animals, refusing to be revealed. All that really comes out of anything is different peoples opinions and beliefs and theories about things, and they are usually plausible, because we have been led to believe that we should "trust" certains peoples judgements. But really, should we? Have a little more faith in paranoia, Mark. Works for me. My boss said "Who is arranging the night out tonight?" And apparently it was supposed to be me. my mum said "Are you ready?" to me this morning. I had to conclude that I wasn't. But after five minutes of deliberating on my lipgloss, I was. And that, is that.. for now. Thanks idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 11:29:11 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:29:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Waiting for my yiu-ju rice Message-ID: In my office at work I sometimes sneakily read my private e-mails (sometimes I breath too but not as often as I do e-mailing), and because hotmail in its blue swish looking glory looks nothing like work, I have to hide the window underneath some spreadsheets I'm working on, so for most of the time I'd be be reading the top half of the subject lines of sinister e-mails.. this morning I saw an e-mail from Astrid called "Sinister: Singing B&S to Foxes" and only being able to read the top half of it I thought it said "Singing B&S to Fever".. I thought it was a post about how astrid tried to sing B&S to the tune of Fever, by Madonna, but it wasn't it was a sweet story about singing to a fox in the zoo. For the next half an hour, however, I couldn't get the thought out of my mind to try and sing B&S songs to the tune of "Fever" and I just had to do it. So I sneaked into the loo and started humming the tune of "Fever" whilst thinking of B&S lyrics, the only one I could think of that might work was "ChickFactor", so I tried to sing it, and it sounded horrible. archel foreplay said: >>i was pleased to see that the creators of pop idol ..felt that a good sesh >>on the DDR machine was valuable training for the future rich and famous. >>so you're already half-way there,ken...<< Hurrah! and now that I've also done the compulsory "singing badly in the toilet" bit they always show on PopIdol does that make me a real pop star? Speaking of the rich and famous, after the euphoria of writing (and personally signing!) a letter to an International Football Star, I recently discovered also that Marjorie Orr the Astrologist is also one of our customers. I am star struck. Why am I sitting here at work? I want to go bowling. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Best chat-up line ever "You have beautiful eyes - yeah I can see the reflections of me in them" P.P.S.: Give me a break, I know it's crap but I just made that up 2 seconds ago. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 12:35:53 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:35:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Advice to Ken Chu: how to cheat. Message-ID: <20011114123553.8886.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Ken Chu said "In my office at work I sometimes sneakily read my private e-mails (sometimes I breath too but not as often as I do e-mailing), and because hotmail in its blue swish looking glory looks nothing like work, I have to hide the window underneath some spreadsheets I'm working on, so for most of the time I'd be be reading the top half of the subject lines of sinister e-mails.. " I know how Ken feels. I suppose I am lucky, cos I have a yahoo account, but unlucky cos I've changed it to pink. And I don't have any spreadsheets in pink. I also have to sneak attack my inbox, and can advise Ken, from my sneaking, how to do this realitively effectively. 1. Wait until everyone disappears to meetings, and then go wild on the web. 2. reduce the size of your internet window, and drag it down to the bottom of the screen so it looks like part of the work you are working on. 3. Make everything on your pootah hotmail-blue (perhaps not the official painters colour name for it)- your screensaver, your company email letter head, your wallpaper,your socks, your spreadsheets.. the lot. This way, nobody will guess cos it will all just merge in nicely. 4. When you are online, quickly copy and paste entire e mails into a MS word page, close down/minimise your e mail window, and then you can sit and read it at your leisure and nobody will be any the wiser. 5. When composing e mails, compose them in MS Word first of all, then when you do a sneaky hotmail open thing, you can just do the whole cut'n'paste action (and heres a challenge, Ken- how about changing the words of "Shake'n'Vac" to "Cut'n'Paste"? You do the cut'n'paste and make time waste, do the cut'n'paste and make time waste... or something.. try singing that next time your in the loo! ;-) ) 6. If like me, you're on flexitime (Time is not really flexible though, is it? I mean, can you physically bend a minute??) then simply come in earlier to work, before the people sitting near you, and sit surfing the net; or leave later in the evening and sit surfing the net; or change your lunch hours and sit surfing the net. This has the added bonus if you're paid by the hour, cos you can pretend you're being very good and sitting working really really hard. And get paid for it. Personally, I'd rather be in bed than come into work early, but you know, sometimes I am fifteen minutes earlier than my work collegues/ millions of bosses, and sit tap-tap-tapping away in personal e mails. Ken, m'dear, I hope this helps. And I hope it helps everyone else here too who is at work and with all this open-plan desk arrangement nonsense, feeling a little worried about getting caught. Can I also say, if you do get caught, in your defence, heres the explanation: People can only really take in information for fifteen minutes at a time*. Therefore, you need a few seconds to let your brain digest the information you have. And therefore you have opted to look at something else. This makes you work more effectively. Alternatively: emails make you happy. Happy people work better. If you feel more relaxed then you can work more effectively, therefore increasing your productivity. (tell them its been proven by some university or other.) Or: This job sucks. I'd rather read my e mails. Go away. or how about: I am conducting a survey for (give reason relating to work issue) as requested by (name some top head honcho dude here) and this is a confidential research thing that I'm doing under cover so not as to draw attention to the company and stuff, and I'm afraid I can't tell you anymore and if I did then I'd have to kill you (end with menacing laugh- Evil Dr Chu style) Thankyou. Hope that helps. Love, popidles kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis ps. * fiftteen minutes... um.. I might have got that wrong. That might be how much fame you're entitled to, or the attention span of agoldfish. I get confused. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Nov 14 13:14:55 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:14:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "I thought that you would never say no," she said, "you look like the silent type." Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC059009@PIKACHU> There's been a lot of posts recently starting something along the lines of "hello, I'm new here". Which is good. But in the interests of neutrality, I feel duty-bound to show the other point of view. So, hello, I've been here for bloody ages. It's a sad day when 250 people die in a plane crash, and the first reaction of many (most?) people is relief that it was an accident. I was wearing my TWATTYBUS T-Shirt yesterday, and I had 2 people comment on it. The first was a fifty-something lecturer in my department who asked why I was wearing a T-Shirt about a TV Show which was on before I was born. And the second was a sixty-something barman at the Sports Hall bar who asked what an Arab Strap was. I said I didn't know. Well, you'd have done the same, wouldn't you? I'm disappointed that they changed the name of the new single. IWUTU is a very dull acronym; The Season Has Arrived would make THESHAG. Almost. While I'm here, answers to questions in other posts (nb answers not neccessarily in the right order): No. Well, obviously. Wait until Christmas. Of course we didn't. I don't know either. Yes. I hope that's helpful for you all. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 14 14:19:34 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (Fiona Fairbairn) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:19:34 BST Subject: Sinister: a monkey in every office!! Message-ID: <1183541763@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> >Despite what you may have read or assumed, the railway still >continues its operations around the clock, 365 days a year and we >have not gone home. Railtrack,the national rail infrastructure owner, >still needs to recruit graduates to start with the industry in >September 2002. isn't that the greatest beginning to an email ever, i was muchly confused until i realised that it was just a stupid recruitment thingie that the university careers people insist i receive all the time. i do wonder where railtrack would go home to i imagine a big community all living in an engine shed like the one in thomas the tank engine and then they'd get to play on the turnyroundythingie that the engines use when they need to go in a different direction. my dad knows loads about the history of local railway lines and he's always pointing to random buildings and telling me how they used to be a station. its amazing how many mounds of earth used to busy railways. just thought i'd share. i have a sort of half-arsed hangover today, i don't really feel ill, just a bit slow and i keep mixing up words (i got confused between elephant and aeroplane earlier) and for a while this morning i wasn't sure if any sound would come out at all and it wasn't until the very end of my Contemporary British Culture class that i decided to try and make the effort, fortunately it worked, but it made me a little sad that everyone had been deprived of my witicisms concerning the working classes and masculinity. nevermind eh... last night i played different songs in my dj set to what i normally do. it felt good. it also felt good to have someone who prides himself on being knowledgable about stuff not recognise folk implosion and had to ask me what it was. hehe. one sinisterine was in attendance *waves at antony (you don't have an 'h' do you?) but i know there's more of you in manchester (i'm looking at you chris_t_opher) and i shall expect to be seeing people at the next indigo november 27th @ the phoenix. i WILL be reminding you later. the girl sat next to me is eating smarties. i want smarties. i'm going home now to eat fried food, perhaps that will make me feel better. love and monkeys, fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 14 14:30:38 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:30:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: water is the new vodka! Message-ID: <3BF2800E.5C68B58B@camb.linst.ac.uk> It's true don't you know, everyone at my college is currently ill, on a diet or broke so water seems the best chioce. Isn't djing just so much fun, why do i always get a f**kwit bothering me. Sam's post reminded me of an insident recently, i was playing a bit of jazzy stuff when a girlie girl approached me. The conversation went as follows: HER: 'scuse me, got any drum and bass? ME: er ive got a track with a sort of drum and bass rhythm? HER: oh, er got any pop? ME: What do you mean by that? HER:POP! ME:no! HER:is this hip hop? ME: NO it's MR SCRUFF, listen, speak to that blonde guy at the other side of the room, he will help you out, fnarrr!!! Don't you just love 'em. Changing the suject drastically, I CANNOT WAIT FOR HARRY POTTER!!!! maybe i'm being sad but i am very excited about it, the trailers look fab. I'm going to invite loads of people and make a day of it, i might have a party where we all dress up as wizards, get drunk and try and play quiddich by hanging off the lights and pelting oranges at people, fun! What's going on with the old london meeting? Is it on the 18th? It's a crap post hannahxxxxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tobikid at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 14:52:44 2001 From: tobikid at xxx.com (Graham Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:52:44 +0900 Subject: Sinister: child bride / sake and gin Message-ID: Well then...so... A beautiful 16-legged musical miracle rolled into Japan on Monday night, for the first leg of a whistlestop tour which very suspiciously includes no weekend night. This happy gaijin learned a few new things over the course of the evening: 1) Fred Savage, dimpled star of hit TV schmalz 'The wonder Years' did not simply just fade from the public eye as he grew older. Instead changed his name to Stevie Jackson and moved to Scotland, where he learned to blow a truly mean harp. Kawaii, ne? 2) Kujo is not a big rabis St. Bernards dog from a second rate Steven King movie, but actually a station on the Osaka OTS port line. 3) A carefully planned mullet can actually be very, very cool indeed- nice one Bob. 4) Watching Stuart dance makes my neck hurt quite a bit. 5) Osaka is a very big and confusing city, where you can walk for three quarters of an hour and still be in the same train station. 6)Big Man in Osaka is actually a very large TV screen in Hankyu Umeda station that serves as a meeting place for the locals. In Glasgow it's a phrase denoting a modicum of respect, when received from spotty youths in shell suits. 7) I'm not Mark. Standing at the Big Man (see above) -"You're not Mark, are you?" -"No I'm not." 8) Mick actually does smile sometimes. 9) When she's doing her little mock-boredom percussion playing face, Isobel goes right off the top of the cute-o-meter. 10) Belle and Sebastian absolutely rock. The gig was great..there was the odd cough, splutter and cleared throat here and there at the beginning, but hey, its the first night. Stevie swung enchantingly between boy next door and boy that thinks he's johnny cash, stuart was the consumate entertainer and demonstrated once and for all it's confidence, not coordination that makes a truly great dancer. In fact everybody was just bloody lovely and the only complaint one could make about the concert is that it didn't last forever. Oh, that and the sound quality at the Zepp Osaka, which did make Stuart sound a little like Davie Jones sometimes. So it was all cool really. And then I got the Shinkansen as far as Okayama, met some Aussie mates and bored them to tears with a blow by blow description of the whole event. Then I got really drunk. Nice Song of the night: I fought in a war, just for stuarts extra slow moody start. Thanks to: DundeeRachel, L.A.Rachel and Oon for wishing me luck in my endeavours. I didnt get any good luck messages from any wills... Especially to the lovely Yuko Kaido, who was my guide and companion for the evening, and without whom I would probably have never found the concert hall, and would probably still be wondering lost around the streets of Osaka right now. Small Raspberries to: Dundee Rachel, who sees too many good concerts for my liking. Big Raspberries to: Motoko and Takahiro, who ended up not going to the gig. Your punishment is your crime. Lot of love to: Each and every one of you, and to Belle and Sebastian. Kyotsukete ne? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.lynch at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 17:01:40 2001 From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Lynch) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:01:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: tickets for belfast Message-ID: So, there are tickets for the gig on the 21st in Belfast available on ticketmaster.ie but there is no mention of transport there and back. I'm not really sure what the story is, if these are the same "limited amount of tickets released in the Republic" or not. But I was told to let you all know by Trish, who already has tickets and is very excited, because the capacity of the Mandela Hall is only 550 and so will probably sell out pretty quick. Grainne (who is looking forward to seeing the Frames almost as much as Belle and Sebastian, because they are absolutely fabulous!!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 03:21:02 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:21:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: fuck buses, fuck them with knives Message-ID: <002401c16d85$19157880$a16601d5@aqlzosqt> i hope that subject line doesn't cause any raised eyebrows from employers looking over you naughty people's shoulders... but i needed to say it. i have to get the bus to work now and it's always late and full of a) smelly people talking into carrier bags or b) students. (these categories are not mutually exclusive.) also i get sick on them (just check the archives). i know it's b&s fan treason, but i prefer trains. i think that they're psychologically healthier, with more space to escape loonies. where's the buffet car to take a casual walk to on a bus? i liked fiona's post about railtrack bigwigs living in a big train shed. last saturday ( i can't believe i forgot to mention such an important social event in my last post) i went to a model railway exhibition. one of my best friends has been involved with model railways (never ever say toy trains) for as long as i can remember, and i thought it was time i went to see what it's all about. also, i do really like trains (if not in the slightly scary way that everyone else there did, but anyway...) it was quite fun and certainly twee. simon's display had little trams with proper overhead pick-up. someone else had a harbour with real water that went in and out like the tide. and i thought i wasted too much time on sinister... :) i'll stop now, because i don't think we really want a reprise of the old 'hilarious anecdotes about public transport' thread. on the subject of skiving at work (thanks for the tips, 'bone' idle...) i was a bit taken aback to see that some men were installing a tv set on my desk today. it turned out to be for the purpose of spying on students from my all-powerful position on reception. but they reckon it can be wired up to our tv service too... mmm - 'friends' dubbed into french. what a treat. in other news, i've noticed that every sinisterine worth his or her salt seems to be a dj these days. some people sneer at indie djs not being proper djs. where, pray, are the repetitive beats? the seamless mixing? and have you tried scratching over tbwtas lately? not me, however. despite huge quantities of vinyl currently being stored at my house, i don't know one end of a deck from the other (unless i'm on a bloody bus) so i give big props and shout-outs to you all. keepin' it schmindie! luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 20:17:35 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:17:35 EST Subject: Sinister: I'm standing here til the wind catches the leaves Message-ID: <64.16322eb2.29242b5f@aol.com> It is a day. Definitely a day. I wake up and look around. My roommate is still sleeping. Good. She's a loud person and I don't do well with loud in the mornings. I put the finishing touches on my Irish homework and take a shower. I come back and Beth's mom is here. We discuss some things and the origin of the name Colleen. I know this origin because I take Irish here at Boston College. She keeps on insisting that the word Cailin is Caitlin, but an agreeable woman I think. I slip the headphones over my ears, shove a box of cookie crisp in my backpack, slip the diskman in the big purple pocket of my coat. It's okay, I set the non-skip device. Wave a silent goodbye, slip your hand in the pocket to turn up the volume. You haven't listened to Belle and Sebastian in a while. Stars of Track and Field is working sublimely with the startlingly clear autumn sunlight. Oh beautiful, the leaves are glittering down around you. Pull your hood up girl, it's freezing out here. I get into Stuart dining hall (hehe Struan dining hall) and get a bowl and some milk. The guy at the cash register gives me a look. I'm glad I have my head phones on or he might ask why I need the bowl. I sit down and produce the cookie crisp from my backpack. Eating them is a delight. Cookies for breakfast. I can't help grinning. There's milk on my lips and cereal in my teeth, but oh well, I've always had a fondness for Like Dylan in the Movies. Get to Irish. I got an A on my midterm. Made a few mistakes with definite articles, but life is pretty much good. The headphones are back on as I walk to the bus. I'm looking straight forward. I'm going back to my room. Then I'm getting on a plane in 47 days. What happens inbetween doesn't even exist to me. I'm grinning again, but with a clean smile this time. Today I found out that adjectives are really verbs. A while back I found out that the letter H does not exist. It's crazy, you go around assuming things exist and then find out that they don't at all. It's wonderful. It might sound crazy, but I'm beginning to like the life I'm living in a whole lot. Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 20:21:29 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:21:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Is_The_Grosvenor_Caf=E9_Being_Sold=3F?= Message-ID: <000001c16d49$fb53d520$bdbe7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, excuse me interrupting, but if anyone's interested there's a new section on the band's website, called "Writing". The first entry is a piece by one Stuart Murdoch, about fear of flying, safe little café booths, dear non-catastrpohic waitresses, well, why don't you go & read it yourself? http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/writing.html The implication is its the first of a series, in (backwards) chronological order. Pooh. It'll take ages to get all the way back to 1996. Grainne mentioned tix for the Mandela Hall (Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK - will that do, Helen? :) ) gig being available on ticketmaster.ie - they're also on http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/byid.asp?event_id=1800336D9C15F 962&category=Music I would love to go, but to do so would have to spend an amount of money that would seem obscene for a charity gig. So I hope everyone who attends has a fantastic time. Someone just send me a tape so that I can get to hear them play Brown Eyed Girl or whatever. Thanks to Mayumi & Graham for Reporting Back, & so beautifully. You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world I'll give you anything, everything if you want things David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 21:15:07 2001 From: stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com (juju cat) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:15:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: put us back on the train Message-ID: halo sinistrine. i came back from my adventures abroad. then i went to LA and got so sick i could do little but sleep.. so i missed the meet. please have another when i'm not so ill. i must have izone pix of all of your shoes. now i sit in a cube in a small dark room with other sad people in anticipation... it has been a slow death, but friday, the head falls all the way off, and we will be left in a ghost town to clean up afterwards. i know companies die all the time. i know it's sad to see eras end. but this one was so special.. this is devastating not just for the community of people that have been employed here for years: this is sad because the company [was] a music distributor. (if you live in the us and bought a belle and sebastian cd released on matador, you can betcher trousers it went through us first.) and tho i think my label will be ok, struggling with other little distros elsewhere, i am mourning the loss of so many little indie lables that have only thrived with our help. they will now be gone forever. and all those people who give so much to make something pretty while they can to give back to the world will now be in debt and never be heard. it is sadder than sad. plase never stop buying records. i think i shall work in the library. i will get lost in children's books and think of my adventures in engerlund. i will still play in the piano bar at night, but i will play more than 'cocoon' and 'we rule the school'.. i will play 'fox in the snow' and remember the foxes i saw. the one who crept up behind me on the streets of london the night before i left, who caused me to "eek! a fox!" and the one in the form of a lake in the hills of northern california that i saw the next day on my flight home. and i will still wonder what it all means. (if anybody knows, please, do tell.) i suppose i can't post without mentioning *him*... well, he called me yesterday, from his newly appointed post at home, unemployed like everybody else now. he was feeding her cat his tuna. but still managed to flirt with me.. and today he signed on to tell me farewell. he has flown away to engerlund now. then to czech republic. and he acted like i went without him on purpose.. as intelligent as he is, he must not be so daft as to think i wasn't waiting for him to say as much as two words to get me to wait for him, what with all the begging i did to make him come with me. he must know i only went so i could bear his disappearing. still, he proves himself time and again to be a dumb boy. confound it all, i love him tho. and this just feels like.. spinning plates. --juju girl in the snow, where will you go to find someone that will do to tell someone all the truth before it kills you listen to your crazy laugh before you hang a right and disappear from sight.. what do they know anyway... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 22:55:24 2001 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:55:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can I tell you a story? Message-ID: <002e01c16d5f$88d2ed90$44da40d5@alex> Hi, here is another mail from a member of the Swedish massive. Big it up. Respect. :-) First of all, I heard two songs from the new single yesterday. "I'm waking up to us" and "Marx and Engels". Boy were they good. Even though Stuart sounds strange on "IWUTU". But strange in a good, cool way. I can't wait for the single to come out. Today I saw Storytelling on the Stockholm film festival. It was really good even though I think I have to see it a few more times to get some question marks that are currently circling around in my head straighened out. The movie is divided into two parts. The first is called "Fiction" and it's duration is about one third of the film. The music to that part is made by Nathan Larson. The second part, with the music made by Belle & Sebastian, is called "Non-fiction". I'm still trying to figure out the connection between the two parts. So far I haven't come up with any. I mean it doesn't HAVE to be any connection between them but...I don't know. Another thing that I reflected on about the movie is that it isn't much music in it. But the music that is in it is really good. One B&S song is called "Storytelling" and that was great, really great. Sarah or Isobel sings it. Apart from that about 2-3 new songs are featured in the film. Plus "The state I am in". Anyway, I hope you're all doing well and that you get a chance to see Storytelling soon. ///Alexander +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Wed Nov 14 22:53:40 2001 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:53:40 EST Subject: Sinister: storytelling Message-ID: <9b.1dedde1f.29244ff4@aol.com> hi i bought the new issue sight and sound today. sight and sound list great things in their reviews; the duration of the movies in minutes and seconds, the length of the film in feet... and they also list complete soundtracks. the storytelling credits list four belle and sebastian songs, three of which i've never heard of: the state i am in i don't want to play football scooby driver storytelling they're also credited with "music" so i guess there will be instrumental pieces too. in my head, storytelling is already the song of the year. oh, one other thing... thanks to everyone who came to the national pop league last friday! i was astounded by the turn out... there will be another one on january 25 next year... but i'll remind you nearer the time. mouche. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dimensionflip at xxx.uk Wed Nov 14 23:21:13 2001 From: dimensionflip at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:21:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: on the back of a cartoon coaster, in the blue tv screen light Message-ID: <00ba01c16d63$7b269300$309289d4@default> the bar looks familiar, though i've never been here before. there's a pair of plywood saloon doors to my left and, from within, i can hear the opening chords of "jolene". i regret not bringing a stetson, and catch a glimpse of myself in the reflection of a beer ad. far too neat. i set about dishevelling myself, and take a step inside. i'm here to meet an old friend. someone i haven't seen for a couple of years. i'm nervous. i walk into a pillar. a man passes and feels my arse. i'm about to shout out my customary response - "fifty quid and a bag of maltesers" - but i get the feeling i recognise him, and follow him through into the saloon. i can see him sitting at a long chrome table, laughing loudly and ostentatiously waving a cigarette. and i can see who he's with. i tell myself there's no point in backing out now. i'll go and talk. my friend...my old friend...how i've missed you. no...can't do it - "barman, a bottle of tequila". the man who serves me frowns a little and hands me a lemonade..."just the one, mind". i open my mouth to protest but he's already gone and like so many men in the past he leaves me with my jaw slack and nothing to say. i sip the carbonated saccharin bubbles through the plastic straw provided and decide to make my move... i shuffle across the bar, regretting my blatant attempt to grab attention by wearing only a basque and a rafia table mat. i wish i had a nice duffle coat with a big hood that i could tuck myself inside... my friend is alone now, but does not turn round. instead, our eyes meet in the glare of fluorescent light on an empty whisky bottle. i stare for a moment at the pleasingly adrogynous face, and attempt a smile, and the sinister list turns to greet me. coldly: "so....what brings you back here?" "i missed you. i never meant to go like that, without saying goodbye, i...i..." "you just didn't have time for me any more...yes, i know. so many other people left me the same way. i thought YOU might be different." .......... .......... "err....lemonade?". those beautiful, ever-moving lips rearrange themselves into a semblance of a smile. the list takes the glass from me - "i'd prefer a tequila, but thank you"..."oh, and sit down, and stop shuffling your feet, and fold your hands" "fold my hands?" "just do it" i take my place next to the list on a wobbly bar stool. we talk of old times. of cabbages and kings. i ask if it still owns the parrot, if it looked after the pterodactyl i once made, if it remembers the time we ran gaily along the streets of selly oak together. it tells me i've put on weight, says i'm too old to have started smoking and says it has managed just fine without me, there are always new friends to be made. it starts to explain what it ate for breakfast this morning, about the really cute guy that works behind the counter of the local independent record shop and oh isn't he lovely and.. just as i'm drifting off, it says: "Love is where you find it. I think it is foolish to go looking for it, and I think it can often be poisonous. I wish that people who are conventionally supposed to love each other would say to each other, when they fight, 'Please - a little less love, and a little more common decency'" and i remember why i came back to find it. nobody talks to me like this any more. "another drink?" it nods, and again i walk over to the bar, this time obtaining an economy-sized bottle of jose cuervo from an obliging bloke in purple trousers. i open the lid and take a deep breath of the fumes and, for the first time, hear the song on the jukebox. one of my favourites: i remember a time when you told me love is touching souls surely you touched mine.. i look across at the duffel-coat, corduroy flared man-woman-list in the corner. did it touch my soul? yes, in a strange sort of way, there's no denying it did. i re-take my seat, whisper the words "i love you" so quietly that nobody but the ghosts in my mind can hear it, and hand over the bottle. the list doesn't reply. nobody ever replies to those three little words when you most want them to. i light a cigarette, then put it out. i'm to old to start smoking. ian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or, at least, another day Phil Ochs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oh, just a quick ps. that will totally ruin (or maybe improve?) the ending of that mail, but stuart gardiner said: * Andthe second was a sixty-something barman at the Sports Hall bar who asked *what an Arab Strap was. I said I didn't know. Well, you'd have done the *same, wouldn't you? actually no, i'd take great delight in shouting "its a COCK-RING". but perhaps that isn't something i should be proud of. buy me a drink, sinister list, and i'll give you a pack of cheap fags +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 00:42:18 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:42:18 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello to all. I was driving my Dads truck yesterday and he's made this Nick Drake/Belle and Sebastian mix CD from some of my collection. I was listening to Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying, which has to be one of my favorite songs period. And the line "nobody writes them like they used to so it may as well be me" caught my attention, as it usually does. Then I was thinking about how some people have expressed that some of the songs on the new Belle and Sebastian single sound like their from the 60's. Well...maybe it's been Stuarts intention to write songs like that for a long time. Everyone has a creative peek, a goal. Maybe he has always wanted to write songs that sound like "they used to". In the last Weezer album. There's a Verdi (I think) quote "Torniamo all antico, e sara un progresso" I don't speak Italian but I remember that when the album came out people were saying it basically ment "To go back to the past is to progress". If thats wrong, I'm sorry but thats what I heard. anyway. Hey Thanks Rachel F. for your Theatrical support. It's going really well, we also perform this weekend. I got a four track recorder for my birthday (11/24). I know it's early but who cares, I've wanted one for such a long time. I got this semi-okay mic too. It's a lot of fun. Okay, short I know but...sorry. have a good one. tim just a thought, did that make sense. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 11:48:21 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:48:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: War and Peas Message-ID: Hello! Well, it looks like we�re winning this war. The army took Newport on Saturday and stood guard outside the public toilets with their sub-machine guns. I had to pop into a caf� instead. "What�s the army doing?" I asked, but the waitress was gazing out to the boy with the shiny boots and square-cut head. Maybe I can shave this beard off now, I thought, and wondered if they might set up government in the Debenhams on the High Street. When the marching band began I remembered it was Remembrance Day on Sunday. I began to feel a bit insensitive, because I was going to go paintballing that afternoon. It was another one of those work things � a supposedly good-natured bonding experience which turned into the English versus the Welsh. I wasn�t very good, and got hit lots, like this; My head: 1 My leg: 1 My willy: 1 My arse: 10 Oooh. I could hardly sit for three days. I wasn�t very lucky. Now events in Afghanistan have taken everyone by surprise again, I hope people will start being a bit more reasonable and take longer to jump to their conclusions. Everyone�s been using the war to say "You see, I was right all along. Of course, in a few weeks this will happen." And it hasn�t. All that�s happened is that we�ve been reminded there are few simple answers to anything. When I used to work in Sainsbury�s there was a man who worked "out the back" and wheeled the trolleys off the lorries. He looked a little like Captain Pugwash. I used to sit with him sometimes in the canteen and he�d always be telling us, as we sat round the table with our chips and peas, some astounding fact that he�d heard on the telly. "Did you know that the Siberian tiger can run faster than a skidoo?" he�d say, and we�d listen, hushed and privileged to be receiving such wisdom. Then one day he was eating a Crunchie and he wiped his mouth and said; "Do you know what this middle bit of the Crunchie is made from?" We didn�t. "Edinburgh rock", he said. The other lads nodded knowingly behind their steaming cups of tea. But it isn�t Edinburgh rock, is it? I told him: "No it�s not � they call it "honeycomb" I think. I�ve had Edinburgh rock and it�s definitely not that. Look at the wrapper." He glowered at me. No-one else said anything. I pretended to try to catch a difficult pea. I started sitting at a different table after that. I imagine he�ll be in his element now. "Did you know that Osama Bin Laden has men in caves who are ten feet tall and have beards they use to smuggle babies in?" God, just shut up. Everyone thinks they�re a fucking expert these days. I've just read the new story on the B&S site. I like the way the story button has been squeezed in between the others. Isn't Struan ace? And after the example of Mr Miller I've decided to read War and Peace. I'm going to skip the boring bits, though. And I hope there's not too much War, I've had enough of that. Robin x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 11:50:52 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:50:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this is a call... Message-ID: ...to all northern sinistereens how do you fancy a christmas get-together in Newcastle? if the regulars be 'doing a Get Carter' [as mike winship puts it] and returning up north for chrimbo then i have an idea what we can do. on friday 29th december there's a great band playing at the cluny called Flynn whose guitarist is getting a Belle & Seb ampersand t-shirt and badges for christmas (ok, so is it list abuse to advertise my own band if i'm arranging a pub-nic at the same time?) if anybody is interested drop me a line, everybodybody is invited (as long as you are inclined to getting to newcastle inbetween chrimbo and new year) james the dancing hatchback might make it this time! or he may not so how about it then? remember: FRIDAY 28th December 2001 Cluny Tunes Seasonal Special Top Tunes from North East bands and DJs Peace Burial at Sea (quite loud/quiet/loud) Auntie Nanna (crazy lofi electro kidz) Flynn (girl/boy dark spacerock) love and spacerock Pez* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Thu Nov 15 12:50:25 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:50:25 +200 Subject: Sinister: Special today -- no ice cream. Message-ID: hallo hallowed all dear list (and that includes the listless listed, and even the lascivious...) i won't send this now (note: this "now" connotes a moment forever frowzen in time from now on) since there are still a few mails i want to get through, but i had to start it now, since the nicest thing have just happened. this being someone who has brought a sound system to the HUGE varsity l.a.n (where i am) and put on some grate (if completely unrecognisable) music. nice geture, and thoroughly worth it just to see the people's faces as they walk in. ooo, wait... yes, there they've come to tell him/her to switch it off, and... there it goes: depressing silence and keyboard clicks reign again. always trust the Man (the Lan-Man? Stan? i don't know, i just don't know (the truth, why else should i lie?)) not to allow something pretty (so do it while you can!) YAY! it's back again. HOORAY, while being horribly cynical, i was also horribly WRONG!!! it's the Lan-Man playing it! apparently they're testing the pa system. hope they leave it on. will keep you posted, of course, hee-hee: no such thing as consent on the internet, i love it. okay, so still not about to post, but another little snippet which i can't resist (busy reading madeleine's post, with her referring to her "loved one"). do you know evelyn waugh's novel "the loved one"? bit of a different connotation you'd have to the phrase then, i can tell you (and then leave off in enigmatic silence...) ... now THIS is really becoming a work-in-progress (the third day's segment now to follow): a propos of astrid and andre's mishearings, here is a rather salacious one which i've just discovered yesterday, and it made my ears burn a little pink (i'm too young to be a dirty old man, dammit!). i was going through the tabs on the jeepster site (if anyone knows andreas karlson, or if he's reading: kudo's - and i don't mean the curly- horned antelope!), and discovered that the REAL lyrics at the end of one of the verses of "she's losing it" SHOULD go: "inch for inch and pound for pound who needs boys with LISA around." well, think of it what you may, but i think it did make a pervy kind of sense (or a groovy kind of love) to substitute, as i had always done "LEEKS" for "LISA". what does that say about me, i wonder? and had i cheapened the song and what it was about? i didn't know - only time would tell. another odd little bit from another time-zone (i really will have to let go of this mail sometime!). archel toast quoted kurt vonnegut on love: there's another similar one, in the intro to timequake where he writes about receiving a postcard from a fan that sums up his entire oeuvre with the phrase: "love may fail, but courtesy will prevail" (... sometimes we can only hope, i guess...) AND SO, the moment has arrived, somewhat like the season, only not quite - i've finally caught up to my backlog again, and can now post in disappointingly good conscience (oh, how i'd love to give myself to sin, if only she would have me...!) i was going to write a whole big report-back type thingy on halloween as well, but it seems like remembrances of things past now. suffice to say that the stellenbosch pseudo-sinister massive had struck again ("sinister" because that's how i think of it, "pseudo" because hardly anyone in it would have the faintest idea what i'm alking about, although i did make a friend of mine a mix-tape for her birthday, and she did, quite spontaneously remark that "the fox in the snow" was her favourite song on it! my best friend liezl is also firmly converted, and recently insisted on having copies of all my b&s records for her walkman on the long bustrip she had to make, so that's 2 for the home- team, yippee!!!) actually, no, on second thoughts, it doesn't suffice to say that (well, it might for the nebulous many-tentacled "you" out there, but not for ME, and this is MY post (and i'll... okay sorry, but i'm still going to) we made jack o'lanterns, and pretty good they were too, and then distributed them around the town, at strategic spots where they would be optimally visible to traffic. my favourite was the one i perched on top of the traffic lights at a busy intersection. how i wish belle the grown-up dog had been there to see me shimmy up the pole, how amazed she would have been! (good luck with the new place and the job, "the girl"). or, alternatively, some more unattached girls, to marvel at the way my sinuous thighs curled and contracted lovingly around the slim pale body of the naked pole planted forlornly on the streetcorner, as i heaved and wriggled myself up it, until... alright enough (in deference to the impressionable minds of the u/18's club) well, that's it then: the usual vague (but heartfelt) thanks' to all for all the wonderful posts of the last while. i don't know how i'd get through the week without my little opiate. and congrats to those who feel they merit them - even if it's just for being you! be like astrid, be nice to foxes and other animals (by that i mean people too!) love JohaN ps. can't wait for Xmas thingy to get underway, my pillowcase is washed and waiting... and my little mind a-thinking of nice things to send, so ask yourself: are you feeling lucky, punk (rock!) pps. have just for the first time really looked through the marvellous sinister galleries. beautiful! i'm in love with sillustrations! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Thu Nov 15 14:25:09 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:25:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: his impeccable shirt and his strict trousers Message-ID: ello babies the wonders of babelfish strike again... as my schoolboy french seems to have disintegrated to the point where i couldn't read the benecassim review, i tried babelfish for some help. the subject line was possibly the most humourous bit (i think you can guess who "he" is, i know a canadian who'll be quivering at the thought of his strict trousers...) although most of it was the usual gibberish you get from babelfish. whilst wandering through the archives i remembered i was meant to be finding out where "struan" comes from, and it came as a bit of surprise. the first mention: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199803/msg00792.html actually refers to mr david, rather than murdoch, and was made by mistopher chris leonard. the first usage of it ****which still exists**** to refer to howlin' mad: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199807/msg00602.html (*if you read that one it refers to another chris leonard post .../199807/msg450.html which is 404, spoooooky...) was, rather inevitably, made by The Duke of Harringay who is responsible for more than you imagine, little children. Other early adopters include funky seb (ask yer grandfather), andre viera (nope, me neither), adrian evans, loulu, lixi, steady mike, rory, michelle wagner, david moore and, even more inevitably, peter miller. frankly the first 50 reads like a rogues gallery of names who were all the rage when i was in the nursery :) speaking of which, blimey! it's ian anscombe ;) here's the list of the first 50: http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse.cgi/sinister?query=str uan&Search=Search&sortlist=newlast&errors=0&maxfiles=50&maxlines=10&.cgi fields=partial&.cgifields=restricttofiles&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgifields =case&.cgifields=filelist the only b&s song i've tried to do movements for is the L. O. V. E. bit in legal man, in the style of YMCA, however it generally just ends up with me flailing my arms around (so no change there then). am i the only person not to have heard EYEWOOTY? my favourite (deliberate) mis-hearing is substituting the word "being" in wandering days... for "peen", thus making the line: The centre of my so-called penis The space between your bed and wardrobe with the louvre doors wahey, cough, fnarr, etc xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lostbs at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 16:25:06 2001 From: lostbs at xxx.com (Helen Beltrame) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:25:06 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Storytelling and stuff Message-ID: Hi there! I hadn't plan to write soon but all the latest talking about "Storytelling" made me want to. Mouche mentioned the news songs by b&s and Alexander mentioned the movie itself. And I wanted to add some info to all that. For those who don't know, "Storytelling" was directed by Todd Solondz, a (in my point of view) great artist, who also directed "Happiness" (1998), "Welcome to the Dollhouse" (1995) and "Fear Anxiety and Depression" (1989). I haven't had the chance to watch the 2 first ones (you know, living down here in Brazil makes it really hard for the movies to arrive! :)) but Happiness is a great movie and the soundtrack is awesome. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that Todd Solondz invited b&s (he seems to be quite close to Stuart M.) to create this songs specially for the movie which they gladly did (thanks there Todd!). So "The State that I am in" is played by this kid on his cd while... well, I'm not gonna tell you guys the whole story, but it's a very special moment. The rest is really soundtrack, they're all played along the second part of the movie and they are fantastic, as always. It seems that b&s aren't releasing a cd with this songs, but they'll be at the soundtrack of the movie, which should be available pretty soon for your west-european and american guys. Now a message for the brazilian sinisters: Algu�m gravou a entrevista que o b&s deu para o J� Soares e foi transmitida no Multishow antes da transmiss�o do show do Rio? (if someone finds it rude that I wrote the message in portuguese, two things: 1. it's a good oportunity to start getting used to this beautiful language (by the way, it was amazing how good Sarah sang the brazilian song on the concerts here - her portuguese was perfect!) and 2. it's nothing important, I'm just asking if someone got this interview that b&s gave in Brazil on tape. Did you guys take a look at the text by Stuart realeased on the site? Because they were coming to Brazil Stuart wrote that... I'm so proud of my country! (hope you don't get me wrong) Hope you're all well and thanks for the over-super-complete location information, David. ;) []s Helen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 16:33:08 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:33:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The World Is Not A Bus Message-ID: <20011115163308.45381.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all. Here I am again, busy writing to you while I ought to be working. But hey, a girl�s got to live up to her nick, hasn�t she? The lovely archel said� i hope that subject line doesn't cause any raised eyebrows from employers looking over you naughty people's shoulders... well, it did make me giggle. But cos everyone�s behind me right now (a bunch of six or so people hovering in this rather supernatural way discussing stuff) they�re ignoring me. I think actually, it might be the bright PINK sinister page that could give away that I�m doing stuff I shouldn�t be. Archel then went on to say i have to get the bus to work now and it's always late and full of a) smelly people talking into carrier bags or b) students. (these categories are not mutually exclusive.) also i get sick on them (just check the archives). i know it's b&s fan treason, but i prefer trains. i think that they're psychologically healthier, with more space to escape loonies. I prefer trains too. I had an argument a few weeks ago with this so-called �revenue inspector� (thats a posh name for ticket inspector, really, isn�t it?) on a citylink bus. I hate buses. Still very very tempted to start up a website called I-HATE-BUSES.co.uk. I had loads of ideas for it. I guess that�s cos I�m getting old and am beginning to find more faults with the world in which I live and therefore increasing my need to complain. I thought about an annual �crap bus company of the year� thing, where you could vote by region. Regional heats followed by an overall national winner. But I just know Stuart Murdoch would be there begging you all to vote for stagecoach, and oh, how you would. I would too. And the prize? A little matchbox toy bus painted in poo brown with crap bus company of the year tippexed on, in a sort of graffiti artist way. And then have a game as well, where you�d have this gun, and have to blow up buses while you stood at the bus stop. For each one you blew up, you�d get points for good deeds to society. And if you missed, they�d splash you and get �dry cleaning bill� points. But archel was right. Lets not go there. But they do suck. Question: Why does David Moore know so much? Next thought� I�ve started writing a story. I do these things every so often.. I go out, and stand in WH Smiths or Office World or Paper Tiger (or Borders.. which has now become a new haven for me..) drooling over notebooks and fancy pens with cool nibs and stuff, then buy one and feel the need to be inspired. There are only two notebooks I�ve ever filled up. So many notebooks that end up half filled with ideas and thoughts. Talking of Borders, I noticed in the magazine section this pink magazine which I had a flick through. Very funny. Oh and something written by Sarah Martin in it too. Its �1.50, and its on the right hand side, near the stationery in the Glasgow branch (I never stray too far from the stationery, Borders have the coolest things.. and I want it all. If you need to think about my Christmas Pressie, may I recommend something from the Borders stationery dept. Anyway, the magazine thing, can�t remember its name, but I have a feeling someone might have mentioned it before, because you lot are usually a little sharper than me on picking up on stuff like that. Or more obsessive. Went to see Amelie (I think that�s how its spelt) last weekend and I love that film. Put me in a calm happy mood. She belongs in sinister, I reckon. Anyway, I�m skiving working at the moment, and paper shuffling every few minutes to pretend to look busy. And now its nearly time to go home. J How to waste a day, my dears, how to waste a day. Love Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 16:46:49 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (JohnnyNYC) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:46:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Riding on the World as a hobby is sad Message-ID: <000b01c16df5$1eca6400$f909040a@ops.about.com> Sorry. Couldn't resist. :-) Aren't I cheeky? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mclaudia at xxx.br Thu Nov 15 12:45:49 2001 From: mclaudia at xxx.br (Claudia) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:45:49 -0200 Subject: Sinister: some kinda angel Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011115031522.00a2b240@pop.openlink.com.br> The other day I had a dream, I was in the middle of a crowd with some friends... there where some bubbles floating around us and some clouds in front of us... and they were kinda high... Me and my friends were feeling asleep when suddenly some angels started to play a song... the way they played was beautiful, full of passion and emotion. Song after song we started feeling delighted and peaceful... we also felt like dancing... There was a moment that we were not supposed to leave the lights on, and I cried...one of the angels looked at me and smiled... my tears kept falling but I was feeling very good... They played more songs... they danced and they floated.. and they smiled all the time, making the whole crowd feel like smiling too... We had stars all around us, and they were shining in the most beautiful way... everything was perfect... After some time one of the angels reached out his hand and pointed at me.. he said ' this one', he also reached his hand to a couple of other girls, one of them was my best friend... and we all flew to the clouds... As I got there all the angels were smiling... I introduced myself to a blue eyed angel that had a baby face, he stared at me and held my hand... I stood there with them for 3 songs, and I talked to them... I talked to the one that plays violin, she was a pretty shy angel... I told her voice was beautiful and that I loved the way she sang... When they finished their show among the clouds and the bubbles and stars, one of them gave me a kiss on the cheek.. he did it to the others too... It felt very warm, it's not everyday that an angel kisses you... It feels good After that I saw the blue eyed angel fly away and I called him. he stopped... he wrote something on a piece of paper for me. I asked when they were coming back... he didn't know, but he talked to me as if I were one of them, as if he was not an angel, as if he was not special... but he was, and I kissed his hand... I felt like getting down on my knees, but I didn't .. he was already scared and surprised... and then he flew away... That blessed crowd was happy, me and my friends hugged each other and we started to talk to many different people we have never seem before... they were all nice and friendly.. The angels were Belle and Sebastian, Stuart was the one that reached his hand, Sarah the one with a beautiful voice and Mick the baby face one... And it's not a dream... kisses, Claudia +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 21:49:22 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:49:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Le Mort D'Arthur Message-ID: <20011115220022.EZW20934.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.252.198.122]> Cleches forever. ( i dunno how to put accents on stuff and I am too lazy to find out) I got the results thingie from a "careers guidance test" I did the other day. It's rubbish. It has a choice of 12 jobs I should do: Surveying Building Art & Design Engineering-civil Engineering-agricultural Engineering-manufacturing Engineering-mechanical Engineering-structural Police service Print Management Broadcasting Packaging Technology none of which I want to do. I think I'm going to be a farmer, I want to work outside, after all and it seems far from easy, but straightforward. It would involve hard work and no offices or rat-racing. I migt just grow my own food and enough to be able to pay the bills and be done with it. I probably won't be a farmer though. I won't have the courage to set out, buy or rent some land and get up at 5 every morning. Angst and Cardigans Cardigans are cool, I like 'em, they are cool, or did I already say that? There isn't actaully any angst in this post, or there might be a bit turning up later on, it depends if I start feeling all depresive while writing this. Back to Cardigans, though. I have a new one, it's the first cardigan I have owned for some time and it is blue and all warm and I will wear to the primrose hill picnic. Which I am getting all nervous about, it is only the day after tomorrow! I am nervous because: -I am going (I believe) to be the youngest there by a year or two as I am 15 -I will look it. -If we go to a pub, I will get all nervous because I'm not suppossed to be there. -There will be lots of scary ( or not so scary) sinister people there. -I will probably hardly talk to anybody -I will probably freeze to death -I am going to be the youngest there and everyone will know it and I won't hardly speak and I wll get chucked out of a pub (not for the first time) and I will freeze to death and have to be back by 3 or some ridiculous time. Which I will try to comabat (the last one that is). I will stop now, but let it be known that I want there to be more ickle under 20 or even 15-year old Sinisterees (preferably Sinisterettes, actually) in London. They all seem to live miles and miles and miles and miles away. People who are all 20 are a bit scary. Sorry, but you are, although I'm sure it's unintentional. !Viva Rachels! Joe P.S. I have bought a giant paper shade for my room. It's about a metre across and is v.cool. P.P.S.I am in the christmas thingie or should be soon anyway. I am gonna do 3 presents. P.P.P.S. I once read Kenneth P Y Chu is a maths teacher? Is this true. If it is, it really is quite scary, as it shows that TEACHERS ARE REAL PEOPLE! Wierd concept. But does he know how to do my maths homework for me, which is the real question. I hate maths. And I'm crap at it too. And I am doing GCSE coursework for it at the moment and have this terrible suspicion that I am going to flunk it. Oh well. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Thu Nov 15 22:41:15 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:41:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: writing in the style of any riot girl Message-ID: hullo sinister. how is everyone this cold autumn (winter?) evening? i'm doing fine. although there was a brief interlude where *everone* seemed to be gossiping about the ysm. just for the record i did not spend hallowe'en "hugging my toilet". i just had to be put to bed by mr stuart h on account of the fact that i had passed out. asm walton is a stud muffin tho'. or maybe a stud scotch pancake? no. i just wanted to see how that sounded and it sounded rubbish, sorry. how weird is wutu? i can't work out who it is it sounds like, maybe the songs of bacharach and david, something along those lines. and what is going on with struan's pronounciation? it's all rather odd, but extremely good anyway. and there is the cutest picture ever of isobel on the back of the cd wearing a red leather jacket and holding a scottie dog. *bless* but does anyone else think that the picture of sarah on the cover (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OM55.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)looks like something a 13 year old girl would have on her wall and it would say underneath "you're my best friend" or "i wuv you very much", or some other kind of nonsense. ooh i'm jealous of the picnickers, not because of the picnic you understand (because it will be cold all the way on the top of primrose hill), but because they're all in my beautiful city. ah well. i bet they'll all have a lovely time, cold or not cold. i hope there is going to be a london sinister christmas meet up, because at least then i'll be around. the lovely mr carsmile said: "the only b&s song i've tried to do movements for is the L. O. V. E. bit in legal man, in the style of YMCA, however it generally just ends up with me flailing my arms around (so no change there then)." but it's easy really. l - arms straight up in the air, o - arms in a kind of circle around your head, v - arms in a v shape above head, e arms to your left creating bottom bit with a leg. one day i'll draw a picture, and then you'll see :) i loved claudia's post about the gig she saw in brazil. i'm seeing pulp in less than a week *yay* pip pip, FB X ps Mummy I Grazed My Knee _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Thu Nov 15 23:30:13 2001 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:30:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Le Fabuleux destin =?iso-8859-1?Q?d=27Am=E9lie?= Poulain References: <189159190@spray.se> Message-ID: <3BF45005.26685C5C@pacbell.net> Amélie Loves You. it's almost friday and i'm in love with 'Amélie'. it's a french movie, the subject is the title and in the US it's simply called 'Amélie' so if you see it anywhere near you, SEE IT, it's on limited release so you might have to dig around for it. it's done by the guy who half directed city of lost children and delicatessen. mmmmmm. and i just wanted to state for the record that this is my favorite movie from now on until then. you must see it because it's just so damn perfect. and if anyone mentioned it before already, well GOOD, i'm mentioning it again. but i hate hype so go watching thinking the movie sucks, because it really does. seriously. no no go see it. yes yes. Random Story. it was funny because tomorrow i wanted to see 'death cab for cutie' so i got tickets. then a 'south' show came along and i figured i'd better see the UK band since the US band would come more often then 'south' ever would so i sold those tickets and got 'south' tickets. and THEN i realized that i'm going to las vegas all this weekend with my friends and we had been planning it for 3 years now and so i can't see either of those shows and to top it off sparklehorse plays too. so i sold my 'south' ticket. i get to miss three good shows friday night and instead i get to gamble and booze the night away by dancing with random strippers and shooting tommy guns with smiling mobsters. My First Poem. i have this english class and i had to write a poem and it's called [all still until the shimmer shines above] and it went over well in class and i keep making my friends interpret the poem and i LOVE all their takes on my poem and i just wanted to know what you thought of it and maybe you could write me personally and tell me what you thought it was about? thanks. it's a little creaky, i need to tweek it a bit as the meter is really bad but i don't care. okay. I lay in dark surrounded by water, around the water the whiteness of walls, this is my home today and day after, hidden in shell I see the light come fall, I hide my head until i know it's safe, I take a peek and realize I'm moving, a drift in air I find I fall with haste into a new lil place that's quite soothing I come here often, not long, for a while, waiting for home and always excited, I finally return complete with smile, my waters now fresh and food confided. all still until the shimmer shines above, I know I live, taken care of with love. daniel ryder (1980 - ) Random Randoms. 1. i've been eating too much fast food. i think i'm breaking out. or i've been nervous a lot lately. why would i be nervous? i haven't the cluest. 2. i'm reading microserfs. i am danielu at microsoft.com. 3. i saw giant pencils today. 4. i discovered the metrolink in los angeles. i never knew we had really good commuter trains. the only problem with them is that they don't run all the time so you'd have to schedule your whole day around it if you wanted to go somewhere and who knows what their weekend times are like. 5. i wonder, do any of you still play D&D? i do. 6. hur! 7. i'm sad i couldn't make it to the pasadena picnic. i own pasadena. it's in my pocket. i'm only like 5 minutes away too but i had prior plans and stuff. blah! 8. i advertised a party here a little ago and i don't know if any of you showed up because i was too drunk to notice as i was running around in a diaper. 9. i'm a taxi. 0. i love yute. jusqu'à la fin, daniel microserf ryder u. http://red.innervosa.net/ http://originalfools.com/groophug/ icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Fri Nov 16 05:18:50 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:18:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: White Nights Message-ID: Wow! I just listened to this interview of Putin on the radio. I'm not well informed about politics, so my comments will be wide of the mark, too personal. B...but he reads Tolstoy and Chekhov and Gogol and he had a black belt in judo at age 18 and he replied ever so charmingly to the councilwoman from Moscow, Idaho, saying that he had heard there is a St. Petersburg in Florida and that he had a special desire to visit such places, St. Petersburg cos it was his birthplace, not the one in Florida mind! And he clarified his invitation to Bush to visit Russia during the White Nights: one can say that the nights are white when everything is covered with snow but that is not the Russian meaning of the term, no; it's reserved for those nights from late May to mid-June when the sun hardly even sets before it's back 'round again. And they're especially beautiful in a beautiful city like St. Petersburg! This kind of natural intelligence, to which I am hardly doing justice, is only part of what makes a great statesman, but don't you want to go looking for Renaissance men and women? Even Proust, who seems so apolitical, had the inclination to admire M. de Norpois (yes, it's slow going for me), his antiquated turns of phrase, his promptness in answering letters, his preference for his father - "a reflection of the completely individual standpoint which each of us adopts for himself in making his choice of friends." (Are we really that unpredictable?) I have to take my dog out earlier and earlier now. At least there aren't soccer moms to contend with on the school grounds. In October there were rare days of high skies, the expanse marked by wisps of cloud (it must have been soon after my post about wedding veils cos the next day I set out to look for just the right one), and perfect clarity, an accord struck between summer and winter - they surrendered their weapons so that all I could think of was the vitality of one and the tranquility of the other. Now we treasure the contrast of blue and orange tints behind the row of houses and the smell of lush lawns. But I still sing to myself, "the sky is paper white." At the nursery, they had paper white narcissi again in terra cotta pots. I got some for my sister last Christmas. This time she was looking for flowers to plant around the tree in front of her house. As we walked past, the fragrance wafted up and I wondered just how it would figure in the rest. The headache you get from eating ice cream, actually feeling somewhat faint from the intensity of the cold, but elated, intoxicated by skies into which that fragrance had vaporized so that it could be apprehended by all the senses. After we left the record store, my sister made fun of me, my frantic searching. It's just that it's been such a long time since I actually shopped for records in a store! My sister got lots of good things: Pink Moon, TBWTAS, Songs From A Room, and Grace, to replace a stolen copy. I got a best of Simon and Garfunkel. Of the songs that are new to me, my favorites are 'I Am A Rock', 'The Dangling Conversation', and 'The Only Living Boy In New York'. I love the introduction to 'I Am A Rock' and this image in these words - "a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 06:17:12 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:17:12 -0600 Subject: Sinister: um. how much do you think i could bench-press? Message-ID: another night at the teahouse. for some reason...probably the balmy weather....i felt like dressing up. i took a seat near a window and adjusted my red skirt, looked around and felt it was going to be a nice evening. there was a boy on the floor, playing with a black puppy and smoking. he was at the feet of a girl with wild blonde hair and shiny metal hoops dangling from places on her face i wouldn't have imagined they could. dangle. she suddenly broke the hum of muffled conversation in a clear, gentle voice, and asked if anyone would mind if she were to play her violin for a bit. of course no one minded, so she stood up next to a yellow grandfather clock and played a simple melody. it sounded like something i might have heard before. it sounded like a song someone sang to me when i was very young. or like a walk through a forest. it sounded like lying on my back in the summertime, it felt like the sun and it smelled like warm grass. somehow.... it made me think of things i could well have forgotten by now. a pretty woman in rome who sang sweetly every morning as she hung her laundry out the window across the alley. skipping barefoot around a norseland farm in a cream-colored petticoat, tugging at my father's sleeve so he would lift me high enough to peer at the sheep on the other side of the fence. the wonderful gifts my grandparents used to buy for me on their travels. brightly-painted horses, handmade moccasins, little woollen skirts and coconuts carved into scary faces. sitting all night at a place called holy hill, making magnificent plans, sharing childish dreams with a girl i thought had it all. a funeral for a girl i only knew by name. i thought of my friend dan. of people i don't see anymore. of people i wish i could see. of things i wish i were brave enough to do. things that i could do instead of hiding away night after night in the teahouse, quietly joining in a modest round of applause from strangers behind walls, in darkened rooms. i thought....that i shouldn't stay any longer.... i walked slowly down the orange stairs to find the place nearly empty. two behind the bar. one at the window. two at a little table, studying history and getting drunk. the reverend in the corner, setting up his amp. looking sad. he's a good man...a chain- smoking minister who twinkles his eyes and sings the blues. the last time i saw him, i was wearing a plaid coat and standing in line for a drink. he half-sang, half-shouted "wooeee an' we gotta baby girl inna plaid jacket, boys, you know what they say bout them girls in plaid jackets" and a few people yelled "WHAT?" and he just laughed a smokey sort of laugh and shook his head. it didn't make any sense, and he knew it. but the reverend is the sort of man who says things for the pure enjoyment of saying them. he came upstairs later and sat with us....i forget who else was there. he gave us some good advice, and he gave us his business card. the card said he would play "weddings, funerals, private parties, bookshops, coffee shops, bars, and revivals." i remember that. i thought it was funny. but i've forgotten the advice....of course. i tend to forget the useful things. tonight, the reverend just called me "honeypie." i went to my car, and i'd had to park in this awful lot on the corner. it's always full of panhandlers, shady characters, brawling sailors...i've seen things...ugh. there was a woman there one afternoon a few months ago. she told me she was hungry. i took her into subway and she ordered this gigantic roast beef deal, a large fountain soda and a bag of chips. fine. THEN she hit me up for bus fare. okay. i'm a sucker. she asked for a few more bucks. i didn't have it. she got sort of mad. tonight she saw me getting into my car. i locked the door immediately, as i always do. she hurried over and started saying something to me, rubbing her thumb and forefinger together and spraying out her lips as she spoke. i started the car and shook my head. NO. she kept at it, though. she started tapping on my window, and i would have driven away but i was searching under my seat for tigermilk. i kept looking up at her and saying NO and shaking my head, and then she reached for the door handle and tried it. i was so glad i'd locked it...i might have been scared, but i think i was just angry. or disgusted. or scared. i don't know...i stepped on the gas. this is what happens. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 07:47:49 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:47:49 EST Subject: Sinister: crunch!!, Hello!"Nokia can you open your eyes for me, hey I've got a pulse" Message-ID: Hey , HEY sINISTER tOMMOROW (17th at 2pm) there is a picnic (read:arctic survival course) being held atop Primrose hill don'cha know and..... But don't worry to much about that cos it'll be really cold and I think it's probably only me going to be be there. However lots of people have asked about pubs especially the Speard Eagle and if I just give you all my number which is 07932150709 then we can all be super organised and meet perhaps there?. Bear in mind my poor phone is still in shock after being the victim of a particularly nasty near-death traffic accident. Just be patient cos it may not work straight away. Ok, see you tommorow or at Track & Field tonight. James. Tubemouse vet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Nov 16 10:30:23 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:30:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Kim Philby Filled My Trilby Message-ID: <001c01c16e8a$169091c0$3062253e@itjfvkli> Recently spotted in Mo-Jo Magazine was the following letter: 'I'm a subscriber to your excellent magazine so please bear with me. I'm not sure whether at the ripe age of 43 I've lost the ability to spot a joke. Your recent review of the Clangers CD refers to a vinyl edition in a pink knitted sleeve. Is this serious? If so, where do I get a copy?' Sadly it was not from Big Dave. Thank you, Big Dave, for pointing out that new article by Stuart. I thought it was complete rubbish. I'm glad the Grosvener Café is being sold, because it's HORRIBLE. Stuart says nothing bad could ever happen there, but the owner, who is a right miserable CUNT, once told me off for eating a Mars Bar. And I wasn't even eating it. If it had been a Twix, I would have stuck it up his nose. I hope the Grosvener becomes a Starbucks with piped Missy Elliott. I also spotted some inaccuracies in what Stuart said about *that* (they weren't bearded, were they?), Brazil (Catholicism was imposed and is only one of many religions, some of which are a bit like voodoo; it isn't free and easy, as far as I know) and the crusaders (if you write The Crusaders it looks like the jazz funkateers, and they weren't the first to use slap bass - that honour goes to Mark King from Level 42, beating the Style Council's 'Money-Go-Round' by just two weeks! - from 'The Guiness Book of Made-Up Bollocks'). REPORTING BACK This comes from the sleevenotes to Echo and the Bunnymen's 'Crystal Days' box set (which could profitbaly be reduced from 4 CDs to 4 songs, but's that's another REPORTING BACK): IAN: 'Seymour Stein saw us at the YMCA gig with Joy Division in 1979... I think he wanted to shag me. Which he didn't, but he signed us anyway.' ME: I think I can see a pattern forming here. and: 'They have just signed a worldwide deal as Echo and the Bunnymen, while Ian is signing a separate solo deal to an alternative label.' ME: Ha ha. END OF REPORTING BACK I bet Putin had to read those books at school. It's like Tony Blair mentioning Dickens ('the works, not the winder!') or George Bush saying, "Yes, Ralph Waldo, a great American." I am impressed by the judo though. Didn't Putin judo somebody on television once? He maintained his icy expressionlessness throughout, IIRC. I am reading a huge book called LONDON THE BIOGRAPHY. I'm glad Robin is reading 'War and Peace'. I remember the landlord from 'Cheers' had to read it once, to impress the barmaid ,and then someone let slip that there was a film and the landlord said, 'What, you mean I could have gone and seen it at the pictures?' Those were not the actual words used, that was the Bolam Boogie Likely Lads Remix. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 10:59:04 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:59:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Frosts in the snow Message-ID: Hello, Has anyone noticed that it has been *frigging freezing* lately? I have. Can't wait for the picnic tomorrow, I haven't practiced speed saying "CanwegotothepubyetCanwegotothepubyetCanwegotothepubyet" whilst shivering since last time in Edinburgh. Joe Vester said: >>P.P.P.S. I once read Kenneth P Y Chu is a maths teacher? Is this true. If >>it is, it really is quite scary, as it shows that TEACHERS ARE REAL PEOPLE!<< Um, no, it isn't true. I'm not a real person. And I really hate children. There were some talks about the traumas of being DJs, I've had a similar experience once: Stupid nob: "Do you have any REM?" DJ: "No, I don't play mainstream stuff." Stupid nob: "Why not?" DJ: "Dunno. Go away you're not worthy." I made that up, actually. Robin's post reminded me of something a guy once told me.. I was walking along a street in Scotland and some guy shouted to me: "An aye for an aye makes the world go bl..urrgh" .. and then threw up all over the floor, I don't know what he meant, maybe he means that if everyone in the world would just agree with each other, then it will flourish and thrive like the way the pool of vomit splashed everywhere. Whatever he meant tho, it made sense to me. I've made that whole thing up too, actually. In fact was there any truths to this post at all? Possibly some, out there, but you just have to know where to look. Lies and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Will Kirsten Kenyon ever write a bad post so mine can look good in comparison for once? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 11:49:33 2001 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: 16 Nov 2001 11:49:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: furthermore known as the jamms Message-ID: <20011116114933.25548.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 16 13:10:51 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:10:51 BST Subject: Sinister: eugh!!!! Message-ID: <4062CD272C@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> sinister, there's a really suspect looking hair on this keyboard, just near the arrow keys. it's frightening me. argh, don't want to touch it. sorry, i know this wasn't fifteen minutes, but i had to tell someone. love and ribena ice lollies, fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 13:09:58 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:09:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: you are so rude! Message-ID: <20011116130958.75484.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Mark Hester said... Emma and I went to what was undoubtably the strangest band I've seen all year on Wednesday, that being LAPSUS LINGUAE. Seen them. Very nice young men, I have to say, but the whole leather-trews-spiky-hair-eyeliner-fight-with-audience-sleeveless-t-shirt is a bit over done, don't you agree? A bit too... Robbie Williams, if you ask me. With a bloke dressed as Marilyn Monroe on drums. Theres a lot of Robbie Williams references to what I say in this weeks postings. Its only cos he is everywhere, and if I can't say anything nice then I might as well use him as a reference for ugly and stupid things. And also cos I'm not exactly original. CarsmileSteve said: "my favourite (deliberate) mis-hearing is substituting the word "being" in wandering days... for "peen", thus making the line: The centre of my so-called penis The space between your bed and wardrobe with the louvre doors" I keep hearing that too. And I thought it was only me who should have her filthy mucky little mind licked out with whipped cream. ***I can only conclude that Mr Murdoch has a rather small todger and a bit of a complex about it.*** JohnnyNYC said Riding on the World as a hobby is sad And I giggled. Silently. Well, I am at work, you know. And talking of work.. I better go get me some lunch. Started a diet this morning, and failed by ten o clock when someone offered me a cake. Mine was a pink marshmallow in white chocolate. You should try it some time. Hmm. (keep me entertained, my dears!) Love, Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dimensionflip at xxx.uk Fri Nov 16 13:12:52 2001 From: dimensionflip at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:12:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: love and decency Message-ID: <007e01c16ea0$9b808b40$e68e89d4@default> scene: somewhere in the black mining hills of dakota there lived a young boy called... oh no, that wasn't it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- scene: a bar, somewhereintheworldperhaps i am wearing a basque and a rafia table mat. my friend is wearing corduroy trousers and a duffel coat. it is perfectly possible that there are clothes underneath said garment, but it seems rude to ask. we are seated at the end of a long chrome table. to our left, a band is striking up the opening chords of "islands in the stream". to our right, a woman is sitting open-legged on the table so her friends can admire her clitoral piercing. i pour my friend some more tequila, accidentally brushing against the messily manicured hand and staring into those ever-shifting eyes. my companion - the pleasingly adrogynous sinister list - thanks me, knocks back the drink, steals my cigarettes - "you're too old to start smoking, ian" - and starts singing quietly and tunelessly to the music which assaults our ears. "baby when i met you there was love un-known i set out to get you with a fine tooth-comb - you know, i never saw the point of trying to get someone with a fine tooth-comb. surely a big net would be better. a tuna-net perhaps. obviously, you'd let any stray dolphins go, but once you got your intended you'd wrap the net around them and never set them free" i'd forgotten my friend could talk like this, i love the way it makes perfect nonsense. but i'm still pondering the last thing it said to me: >"Love is where you find it. I think it is foolish to go looking for it, and >I think it can often be poisonous. >I wish that people who are conventionally supposed to love each other would >say to each other, when they fight, 'Please - a little less love, and a >little more common decency'" "ian" "yes, sinister" "you aren't listening to me. i'm leaving. i have to meet stephen hewitt in a small bordello somewhere in the darkest recesses of his mind" i open my mouth to protest, but i can't think of anything to say. visiting the darkest recesses of stephen hewitt's mind surely holds more interest than sitting in a bar with a dozy homosexual who's more interested in thinking about kurt vonnegut than talking to you. i close my mouth, then open it again, then close it again. best to keep it shut, you never know what you might swallow. "here, have this" the sinister list hands me a pebble. "err....thanks...errr.... yeah" "god! ian, must i explain everything. this pebble is the only present i can give you. it is your key to the Special Place. your escape, your hideaway when the world within you becomes too much like the world around you. keep it, and use it sparingly. you spend too much time escaping, you end up an existence refugee" "will i see you there?" "stupid question. i AM there" as so often before, i find myself wondering what the fuck my friend is talking about.... i thank the list and watch it work its slim, slinkly, almost sylph-like (though i don't know what a sylph is and probably never will) arse out of the bar. nobody looks at the sinister list. i suspect most of them can't see it. and, anyway, they're too busy chanting the song's chorus "sail away with me to another place" i've got to get out of here before they start line dancing. i take the pebble in my hand for a couple of seconds and ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- the tide is rushing over my trainers, in through the holes in the sole, soaking my socks and freezing my feet. behind me, a seagull is picking at some creature unfortunate to have been washed up on the sand. have i been here before? not this place, exactly, perhaps somewhere like it. some fifty yards away, a couple of about 150 combined years have set up a gramophone and are waltzing to a tune i vaguely know "...cos i looove you just the way you look tonight" they smile at me as i pass, and i wave to them. i can feel my skin beginning to turn to haagen-dans as the winds throws droplets of spray at it. oh, i WISH i'd dressed sensibly. i have so many long-sleeved basques that would have been more appropriate. suddenly, in-front of me, there is a beach-hut, bearing the sign "duffel-coats for sale". behind the counter, an improbably beautiful boy says the coat will cost me five pence. i dig into my rafia table-mat and am suprised to find exactly that amount residing there. i hold it out to him, just far enough so he has to stretch his skinny little body over the counter towards me, and i let my hand linger against his as i hand over the money. our eyes meet, he knows exactly what i'm thinking, and as he hands me my coat he says - "and if you want anything ELSE, it'll be fifty quid and a bag of maltesers". do i have fifty quid and a bag of maltesers? i search the pockets of my new coat and the special secret place under my basque and no, it seems i do not. i chuck him a couple of dolly mixtures and a smile and take my leave. and i go back to my thoughts.. >"Love is where you find it. I think it is foolish to go looking for it, and >I think it can often be poisonous. >I wish that people who are conventionally supposed to love each other would >say to each other, when they fight, 'Please - a little less love, and a >little more common decency'" as the dusk sky darkens, i can hear a thousand voices, maybe more, echoing along the sands to me. i try and listen to some of them as i walk away from the water, towards a welcoming looking cave in the cliff-side: "...said he wanted me, but the next morning..." "i wish... i wish i'd never met you!" "but you always say that, you always say never again...and..." "hold me, and touch me. and promise you won't go" "seven years. and i'm still discovering you. i feel like i take you with me when you leave, and i'm happy to share with you again when you return" "please....you've GOT to believe me. i never meant to hurt you" "the ref-er-ee's a wan-ker, the ref-er-ee's a wan-ker" brrrr...where did that last one come from? i resolve to stop listening. and i take my cover in the rocks, and i watch the couple dancing together in the distance. the way he holds her waist, firmly, but not seeking to control. the way she moulds her body to him, somehow retaining a shape all of her own. the way they touch each other. the music finishes. they stop dancing, and very slowly, he bows to her. she giggles and they hold hands and run off somewhere i can't see them. what am i looking for here? why did i come here? sure, the dancing couple were nice, but i'd rather be at home watching "swallow and - - that gull, that gull is back. i'm not keen on birds, and my first instinct is to wave it away, but it seems to have other ideas. as it gets closer, i can see something clasped within its beak. it struts up to me, drops its gift, caws once and flies away. it has left what appears to be a fortune cookie. i hate these things. the last one i opened said "you're in for a nasty shock". and i was, although the lotion cleared it up. still, when presented in this manner it seems churlish to refuse: "love is an essence. it is neither good or bad, although it can be both poisoned and purified, sometimes simultaneously. decency stems from respect. the beloved is revered, the beloved is trusted and, most of all, the beloved is appreciated. without this, love will not bring happiness." blimey. they didn't buy THAT one from poundstretcher. i put the piece of paper in the pocket of my brand new duffel coat, and walk towards the abandoned gramophone. i brush the sand from it, and attempt to work out how to start the thing. eventually.... "gee...gee i'd like to see you looking swell, b a b y baby diamond bracelets woolworth doesn't sell till that happy day you know darn well i can't give you anything but...." and the song whirls around my head, and i pull my coat closer to me and stare out at the waves. i feel as though, if i wait here long enough, someone might teach me how to waltz. ian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Nov 16 13:28:04 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:28:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nice! Message-ID: <003401c16ea2$8647e320$2385fc3e@neil> Just a wee note to let yous know that B&S will be appearing on "Later... with Jools Holland" on Friday 30th November. It's on BBC2 at 11.35 PM (UK Time), and will doubtlessly feature us doing an all-star jam with Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Shania Twain, Shaggy, Starsailor, Lynden David Hall and Staind. Rock on. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 16 13:40:03 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:40:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nice! Message-ID: yay..later just gets better and better radiohead,beta band, pulp,new order, super furrys, white stripes and now b&s YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY uh..sorry im not living im just killing time >>> "Neil Robertson" 11/16/01 01:28pm >>> Just a wee note to let yous know that B&S will be appearing on "Later... with Jools Holland" on Friday 30th November. It's on BBC2 at 11.35 PM (UK Time), and will doubtlessly feature us doing an all-star jam with Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Shania Twain, Shaggy, Starsailor, Lynden David Hall and Staind. Rock on. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 13:39:53 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:39:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nice! Message-ID: yum yum, cant wait for the B&S contribution to the jazz wankfest cacophoney that usually kicks off the programme. Not 15 mins but I am in a rush to catch a bus. >From: "Neil Robertson" >Reply-To: "Neil Robertson" >To: "sinister" >Subject: Sinister: Nice! >Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:28:04 -0000 > >Just a wee note to let yous know that B&S will be appearing on "Later... >with Jools Holland" on Friday 30th November. It's on BBC2 at 11.35 PM (UK >Time), and will doubtlessly feature us doing an all-star jam with Ladysmith >Black Mambazo, Shania Twain, Shaggy, Starsailor, Lynden David Hall and >Staind. > >Rock on. > >Neil > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Nov 16 13:37:59 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:37:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A bit more... Message-ID: <003a01c16ea3$e910c700$2385fc3e@neil> You can win tickets to the show on www.bbc.co.uk/later You've got to give them a good reason why you should get a ticket. Best of British. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 14:22:24 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:22:24 Subject: Sinister: "indie stalwarts". Hmmm Message-ID: Hello. Just a little post about something B&S-ish appearing on NME.COM. Here's the article: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,50225,00.html Sounds like fun... Feather Boa mentioned someone being a Stud Muffin. We've been there before. Joe Vester was scared about being young. I was equally scared when I was that age, so I can sympathise. I would offer words of advice, but the only problems are that a) I don't have any, and b) they would only patronise. James Danson-Hatcher has stopped telling me that I'm a STAR for reading his whole email. Is this the end of an era? I hope not, for everybody's sake. love and unobtainable Christians... Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mairaefabio at xxx.br Tue Nov 13 06:17:24 2001 From: mairaefabio at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Snoozer/_Ma=EDra_Ezequiel?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 04:17:24 -0200 Subject: Sinister: this is just an old-fashioned rock song Message-ID: <004901c16c0b$0fda7660$f67dc7c8@mxyzptlk> Hello Sinister people! Today is a great day. I've got a rock band and we're playing for many people today in a public space here in our smalltown. It sounds silly but, actually, it rocks! Snooze is the band. We've got our songs, two cds and we play a lot round here and used to play in other states when we had the time. But a few months ago, the same band started another project to try to get some money to invest in the actual band. As we're all Beatlemaniacs, the only cover-project we could stand playing would be a Beatles Cover Band. So here we are, the name of this band is Revolution #9 and we were hired to play in a big public event (a motorcycle stuff, i wouldn't know how to explain), and the funniest thing is: we're playing on the top of a "trio-eletrico", which is a giant moving car that works as a huge PA, generally used during Carnival celebrations, specially in Bahia, that's next to my state. So, it's really rare to have rock concerts in trio-eletricos. I guess it's going to be kind of surreal. Lots of laughs, i suppose. Oh, i play the bass in case you're wondering and, yes, me and the two guitar players manage to do all the background vocals that are possible when you play Beatles songs. Here's the set list, too bad no one of you lives in Aracaju. ;.) (of course i'm kidding: it's good for you!) []'s everyone. Fabio Snoozer www.snoozeband.cjb.net 1. TWIST AND SHOUT 2. WE CAN WORK IT OUT 3. MISERY 4. EIGHT DAYS A WEEK 5. SGT. PEPPER'S... 6. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS 7. TICKET TO RIDE 8. IF I NEEDED SOMEONE 9. SHE SAID SHE SAID 10. I'M A LOSER 11. I FEEL FINE 12. THE BALLAD OF JOHN & YOKO 13. REVOLUTION 14. SAVOY TRUFFLE 15. COME TOGETHER 16. NOWHERE MAN 17. HELP! 18. AND YOUR BIRD CAN SING 19. I'LL BE BACK 20. IF I FELL 21. OH DARLING! 22. PAPERBACK WRITER 23. RAIN 24. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING 25. GET BACK 26. DON'T LET ME DOWN 27. TWO OF US 28. GLASS ONION 29. I WANT YOU (SHE'S SO HEAVY) 30. THE END 31. SUN KING 32. MEAN MR. MUSTARD 33. POLYTHENE PAM 34. SHE CAME IN THROUGH... 35. HAPPINESS IS A WARM GUN 36. STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER 37. TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS 38. MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR 39. PLEASE PLEASE ME 40. YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THAT GIRL 41. ALL MY LOVING 42. SHE LOVES YOU 43. A HARD DAY'S NIGHT 44. I WANNA HOLD YOUR HAND 45. MONEY (THAT'S WHAT I WANT) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lostbs at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 15:15:26 2001 From: lostbs at xxx.com (Helen Beltrame) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:15:26 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Kim Philby Filled My Trilby Message-ID: Gotta say something again. Peter Miller wrote: >I also spotted some inaccuracies in what Stuart said about *that* they > >weren't bearded, were they?), Brazil (Catholicism was imposed and is >only one of many religions, some of which are a bit like voodoo; it >isn't >free and easy, as far as I know) and the crusaders (if you write >The >Crusaders it looks like the jazz funkateers, and they weren't the >first to >use slap bass - that honour goes to Mark King from Level 42, >beating the >Style Council's 'Money-Go-Round' by just two weeks! - >from 'The Guiness >Book of Made-Up Bollocks'). Just to clear things up about Brasil: when the portuguese arrived here, the country belonged to the indians and they had their own religions, depending on the tribe they belonged to. So the portuguese killed almost every indian there was here, and those who weren't killed were "civilized" which means they had to accept catolicism as their religion. Nowadays Brasil is a catholic country. There are some smaller religions, like judaism, evangelism and different levels of christianism associated with other religious theories but the catholicism is the official religion of Brasil. Maybe I'm not well informed enough, but as I far as I'm concerned, we got as much voodoo as the rest of the world. []s Helen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 15:17:41 2001 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:17:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a question about the Later w/ Jools Holland for those of us lucky to have BBC America... In-Reply-To: <200111161458.OAA29338@missprint.org> Message-ID: <20011116151741.38458.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> what series # is this considered in the UK? I see on BBC America they are showing stuff from series 13, 14 and 15--i'm sure this will show up at some time on BBC America--i'm just wondering when i have to wait until... anyone know? thanks. brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tsong at xxx.edu Fri Nov 16 15:43:34 2001 From: tsong at xxx.edu (Elsa Chiao) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:43:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Hi Message-ID: Hi... Sorry I never introduced myself and was being a lurking lurker. I am Elsa from New Brunswick, New Jersey of the US. It's a town about half an hour away from New York City... And I pretend that I live there a lot of times. I was living in England just few months ago... Now I'm back in Jersey and I miss the weather and the food in Reading. Anyways... I'll try not to be so much of a lurker :) from now on... -elsa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Nov 16 16:18:09 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:18:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: A question about Later Message-ID: <008c01c16eba$48fe91e0$2385fc3e@neil> I believe this is Series 17. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 16:53:47 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Sad Eyes Never Lie Message-ID: <20011116165347.20443.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> ITV have started using 'Twisterella' over the footy. Billy Liar or no Billy Liar, this is a road to degradation. I think Sister Disco has been on fine form. Her poem in the styles of Lloyd Cole was little, or large, short of magnificent. I think some of the research was from PaperCuts #2, mind you. >>> I thought it was complete rubbish. I agree. These 'pop stars' get away with blue-lettered murder. >>> I also spotted some inaccuracies in what Stuart said Of course. He's a bit of silly boy, isnae he, I mean, he isnae, I mean, isn'aeae? I mean. Perhaps Cookie, or even Gillanders, could help me out here. >>> This comes from the sleevenotes to Echo and the Bunnymen's 'Crystal Days' box set (which could profitbaly be reduced from 4 CDs to 4 songs What songs? We should Debate this. I suppose 'Dancing Horses' makes it; 'Killing Moon'; the one about the chandelier, for Steady Mike factor; and - I don't know; they did underachieve, didn't they? Or - overachieve? Either way. The Electrafixion 45 'Low Down' was surprisingly good, though. >>> I am reading a huge book called LONDON THE BIOGRAPHY. I'm not surprised. I saw a middle-aged lady on the train today, reading that. Was it you, Sister? Youn talked about Soccer Moms. In the UK people believe that they won Bill Clinton his elections - yes, elections - and not because of his seductive qualities either, but because of his Demographic Appeal. Personally, of course, I like him for his seductive qualities. I have not talked nearly enough abouut Bill or Hillary lately. In lieu of either of them, I would like to meet Chelsea while she is over here. Before I forget, Mallarm�'s "... during the last 25 years poetry has been visited by some nameless and absolute flash of lightning - like the muddied, dripping gleams on my windowpane which are washed away and brightened by streaming showers of rain..." gets me every time. I stopped reading Proust in September 1994, at the end of volume one (of three). I resumed abnormal service in July 1999. The story continues. Sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:04 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:04 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:00 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:00 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <72.12fe1688.2926a178@aol.com> To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:03 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:03 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <14b.420531c.2926a17c@aol.com> To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:05:55 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:05:55 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <14f.418c8cb.2926a173@aol.com> To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:04 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:04 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:07 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:07 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <62.1704837b.2926a180@aol.com> To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 17:06:04 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:06:04 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: To Sinister with love, I have made a habit of reading and posting during free periods in school where I have no one else to be with, of which there are many. Here I sit in the lovely computer lab sneaking junior mints and feeling cool as I read and listen to the wee 7th graders discuss their pre-algebra homework. ("mollieeeee, whats an inequalityyy?") Today has been a fantastic day thus far. First, this morning, something happened that I've been waiting to happen for a long time. Let me give you a little backround: Every morning I take a schoolbus to school. Its not one of those nice big ones that are on TV and in movies and all the people who live uptown of me take, but rather a tiny one with 4 or 5 rows of seats that are not made for two high school aged behinds each. Of course, as I am the last stop, I always have to sit on the isle of a seat and thus don't really get enough space for my whole behind. Today I got pretty lucky and got a spot next to a rather small girl and could fit half my butt on the seat. I had chem istry to study and thus couldn't pay complete attention to balancing my self, as I do most mornings, and so (this is the big thing coming) I fell off! I slid right off the bench and into the isle! I laughed, as did the rest of the bus, and got back up. I'm glad it finally happened, I've been waiting. Also today my gym class had to run outside for a mile or so, and for the first time I ran the whole way! I thought I was going to collapse, but I didn't. I'm very tired. Tonight I'm seeing The Harry Potter movie with my Totally Obsessed friend lindsey and a bunch of our other friends. I'm very excited, even though the movie promises to be drawn out and boring. (come on, three hours for a childrens movie!) She's going to make us play the trivia game, which I will do terribly at since I only read the first two harry potter books and I barely remember them, but hopefully I will permitted to knit and listen and I'll almost definately finish my first hat! Funny how minor excitements in life all pile up on one da, and how when you get into the mindset that you are acheiving things and life is excellent, everything you do becomes an acheivement, and everything seems more excellent Thats not such a profound statement when I type it out, but in my head its really a revalation, so trust me. Well, its off to ¡español! Peace, love Nudity and Macedemia Nuts, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 19:57:07 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:57:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i heard that humans can fly too. Message-ID: the weekend is here...finally. it's been a long week for me, i thought that i didn't have any work to do but i did. i was apparently supposed to be revising for exams which i umm...forgot about. which means i've pretty much failed. i don't mind failing, but...this might sound silly but i feel like i've let my tutors down. for once i actually like the tutors i have so i feel extra guilty for not doing too well. i think that this week has been the real start to winter. now that the clocks have gone back it's dark earlier and it's been ridiculously cold. people in hats and scarves and stuff. i was reading idle's post about setting up a website about bus and how bad they are. i'd like to nominate first bus company. i don't know if they operate outside the greater manchester area but they really are rubbish. it's as if they've launched a personal campaign against me. evidence : 1. whenever i get a bus, a bus never comes in the direction that i want to go but at least 50 go in the opposite direction. 2. the bus drivers do seem to be the most miserable people ever, they never crack a smile nor do they say a word. all they do is demand money and frown. 3. they seem to put small busses on the most bussiest routes and double decker ones on the least bussiest roots. for example the 409 which i catch home from college is regularly packed with as many people as possible. an arkward incident occured the other day. as we were all forced to stand, i had to stand infront of the rail and there was a man infront of me. he had nowhere to place his hands so he had to wrap his arms around me as if he was hugging me to hold on to the rail. this meant that for twenty minutes i had to put up with looking this guy right in the face and him breathing on me. i tried to be considerate and not breathe as much. but this nearly led me to pass out so the poor bloke had to put up with me breathing in his face too. something b&s related happened the other day. me and some of my english class decided rent out a video of "the tempest" from the college library to understand it better and we were watching it. it was thoroughly boring until the character aerial appeared. much to my surprise the person who played aerial looked almost identical to stuart. if you can imagine stuart wearing nothing but a loin cloth (which i'm sure some of you already do) and being covered in gold body paint then that was aerial. he even danced like stuart too. everybody else wondered why i was laughing so much...ahh well. it was good. i like the idea of the christmas present exchange thing. i didn't participate last year, but i will this year. i only have an idea for one present but i'm sure i'll think of more. speaking of christmas, everywhere seems to be decked out for christmas now. even my shopping part of my local town. they went all out this year and went for the fairytale theme. there's this rather large beanstalk in the middle of town with santa claus scaling it. there's even a santa you can go to and request presents. me and my friend watched for a while, all these little kids came out with biggest smiles on their faces. it was disheartening to see him smoking afterwards though. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Fri Nov 16 21:51:52 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: does writing sinister count as progress on applications? Message-ID: <20011116215152.94395.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> I'd assumed I'd heard the worst of it when "chocky bicky" escaped my friend's lips. But now this . . . "christmas pressie." Robin, if you are up to it, please shed some light on the terrifyingly British need to diminutize everything. Was this the custom when the empire was still robust? Or is it a way of asserting the speaker's magnanimity in the face of her country's shrinking significance in the post-imperial era? My friend has cleverly coined the genre of Shag Pop for those ingeniously filthy sex-obsessed British bands such as Hefner, Pulp, Arab Strap, and Tindersticks. I helpfully pointed out the aptness of their member's names: Darren HYMAN, Jarvis COCKer, DICKon Hinchliffe. There must be more, and you are more qualified than I to generate them. In response to the newly-repeated Sinister phrase "fuck it, fuck it with knives" I'm tempted to contribute a story about sitting two feet in front of a sex performance artist at my favorite San Francisco lesbian strip club while she, well, you can imagine (don't worry, she was safe: it was neatly sheathed in a condom), but I don't know what sort of reputation I might garner in this parish. Whatever it would be, I would fall far short of its promise, that's for sure. Let's just say that the most terrifying part was immediately after the show, when she tore around the club in search of her huge glass-ensconced pillar candle (two guesses how this piece was incorporated into her act) screaming, "where's my candle? who took my candle?," seemingly unaware of the roomful of cloudy, averted eyes who wanted nothing more than extreme distance from the honeyed object. Pure hope, she had. Poor hope. Changing the topic considerably, the advice for clandestine workplace Sinister reading has brought to mind Jane Austen. Being a woman who wrote in the 1790s, she was not allowed to be a woman who wrote. So she hid her papers under her sewing, while she sat at a small circular table in the family drawing room. When afforded the opportunity to be alone, she pulled out her papers and wrote a few lines -- until approaching footsteps shamed her into burying the paper under cloth once more. Her grave, in Winchester Cathedral, marks her as a charming daughter. Not one word of her future status as Mark Twain's favorite writer. Now, should word get out that Kirsten Kenyon writes in secret, stealing a line or two at a time, I would be truly impressed. A massive Sinister fundraising campaign to rent the girl a snowy cottage somewhere frighteningly cold with absolutely no geese would be in order. A sort of Sinister fellowship, if you will, with a DSL connection, a cabinet full of liquor, and a free candy machine in the bedroom. You may submit your application at any time, dear. Happy Birthday today to my favorite Sinister lurker, Jacob M. of Superhero Resources International. -- kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sat Nov 17 00:49:04 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:49:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Harry Potter makes baby Jesus cry Message-ID: Yes, I saw the movie today. I went to an afternoon showing to try and avoid the rush (didn't help much, I suspect there were a lot of empty seats at school today). Brilliant. Utterly charming and smart, and it stayed true to the novel. The actors were perfectly cast, the special effects worked rather well for the most part, and the atmosphere was dead on. I happened to be telling my dad how much I'd enjoyed it a moment ago, when he told me about mentioning the film to a co-worker who had kids, said person replied; "I wouldn't take my kids to see that WITCHCRAFT!! I'm a Christian!" Ahh, fuck those people, fuck them with knives. I've got no patience with people who are worried that an invisible superhero who lives in outer space might not approve of Harry Potter. Kids love Harry and his books and they'll love the movie, and that's about all that matters. That, and the fact that JK Rowling is rather sexy, and goodness knows we need more sexy writers. I caught a Beatles special awhile ago where they interviewed her and she told a story about coming home drunk off her ass (or arse, in this case) one night on the train singing "Hey, Jude" rather loudly and how the whole train car joined in. Is there any question why I think Rowling is ace? Kyla said: "In response to the newly-repeated Sinister phrase "fuck it, fuck it with knives" Moo hoo ha ha! I've got you people saying it now! I'm strangely proud of starting that meme. Punk Rock!! \m/ Speaking of PUNK ROCK! things; Black Cherry soda is my new addiction. I'm drinking the ICB stuff right now, bu it was this brand out in Portland I had (I think it was Thomas Kemper's or something, wish I could find it around here) that started my addiction. Yummy stuff. Ian said: "somewhere in the black mining hills of dakota there lived a young boy called..." And now I have that bloody song stuck in my head. Someone hand me the mental floss, Beatles song or not, I need that out of my head. Laura Llew revealed my secret past as a 50's teen idol when she wrote: The Real Jimmy G: http://www.gocontinental.com/photos/gilmer_j_2a.jpg Ahh, you got me Llew, my secret's out. The scariest thing is my dad used to have an old 45 of "Jimmy Gilmer & the Fireballs" featuring the rather annoying song "Go Jimmy, Go" on it. ~stine (aka toadie) wrote: "can someone, anyone, please explain to me why in the bloody hell the white stripes have a job?" Agreed, I liked one or two songs I'd heard by them, but for the most part they're a talent-free zone. Speaking of Talent-Free Zones; Tori Amos. I suspect alien mind-altering rays are responsible for her popularity. I always get crap from a few friends about my opinion on this, but I'm sorry, i must have just missed the boat here. The same goes for Magnetic Fields. I just don't get it; "WOW! 69 completely medicore songs about love sang in mildly different styles!! What a fucking genius!" Added to the fact that he's a bit of a twat onstage, and I just don't understand it at all. "But Jim!! It's part of his act! The way he sits up there and pretentiously glowers down at the audience! Look! He's smoking! He's on stage and he's singing medicore, boring songs and he's SMOKING!" Obviously a fucking genius, why didn't I see it before? oh, do put the torches down, it's just my opinion. I usually try not to slag off bands, as I really hate music snobs and try deperately not to sound like one, but I'm not above offering my opinion from time to time. I'm quite excited about the Sinister picnic, and yes, more details to follow soon. I've heard rumours that the noodle goddess herself may grace the event, assuming she asks for the day off (which she had better). So make sure you Chicago (and near) people come and join Elise, ~stine, Nikki, Kirsten (hopefully), and the rest of us Sinister peeps on December 1st in the big C-town. Both Kirsten and Elise wrote of their lovely day in Madison and Elise wrote "hopefully next time Jimmy G can come with too." Sure, rub in the fact the fact that I missed spending a day exploring a city I love with two of the coolest girls in the midwest. *sigh* I want my rocket car goddammit!! Oh, thanks and cheers to all those who shared their "Best/Worse Chat-up Lines", I was greatly amused. They made an annoying week quite a bit better. And lastly, on the subject of love (which just won't die, will it?): "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" That is all you need to know. Jim (aka patch, aka Jimmy G, aka Jimmy Two-Guns, aka "Just Jim!", aka Heathen Boy, aka...) "These are the words that will infect your soul, curve your spine and bring, God help us, peace without honor." --G.Carlin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Sat Nov 17 10:22:46 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:22:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And for the savannahs, infrequent rains. But rain enough. Message-ID: <01f801c16f51$d13610a0$6700000a@btinternet.com> We are approaching my very favourite part of the day or night. It is my favourite through the very fact of being neither day nor night. It hovers between the two and reminds me of the dragonflies I watched mating in Guangxi Province; the red one attaching itself to the green, and flying in an elegant line across the brown waters where boys swam naked with the water buffalo. Contrary to popular wisdom, this narrow space of time, which shifts from season to season, is the real witching hour. The popular wisdom was designed to scare kids to an early bed, but now is the true magic hour, the hour of transition when the waking world exudes a mingled scent that I would die happy if I could define. I haven't seen sunlight in days. Sometimes, if I've overdosed on French poetry, I think I am a perverted moth with an abnormal life-span. And no wings with which to fly. On Monday I was arrested for drunk and disorderly. On Tuesday I shaved my eyebrows. On Wednesday I lay in bed with hangovers and shame. On Thursday I wrote about horizons. On Friday, well, to me it is still Friday, and I want to see the sea. I have been thinking about the Sinister Christmas Present Exchange. It is a lovely idea, of course. However, I can't help but feel that Christmas is not the best time to exchange gifts, because that is when families and friends give presents to one another, when there are trees, lights, carols and high-stacked tables for gluttonous orgying. Or at least that's how I remember Christmas being, in the good old days when I would put out a mince pie and a glass of milk for Santa. Or, at the suggestion of my dear Pa, a glass of sherry. Then the glass got progressively bigger and, in time, I came to wonder whether Santa really needed that whole bottle with his mince pie. Was present-giving such thirsty work, and were all the other kids so stingy? But be that as it may, it strikes me that the best time for exchanging gifts is when the trees, the tinsel, the carols and the pies have all been stored away with the Happy Memories and fading photos. When January descends like a great bore and we wear two pairs of socks for the cold, waiting for Spring. After all, it is in the dark hours when the kindness of strangers, or virtual strangers, or real strangers, counts for the most. And as for Christmas generally: Bah, humbug. What I remember most of Christmases in the family home was the glut of arguments, depression and head-bowed returns to duty that proceeded them as inevitably as indigestion after Christmas dinner, and hangovers on Boxing Day. The thing that puzzled me as a child, and still does, is why confine all that giving and "quality" time and sharing of hospitality to a few measly days at the arse-end of the year? Why nail magic to points on the calendar? Perhaps it is easier that way, but wouldn't it be better make every day a sort of Christmas, and every day a birthday? There may well be a nice symbolism to Christ's nativity and our own births, which serve as sledgehammer reminders of the miracle of our existences and the primacy of loving kindness, but wouldn't it be far more miraculous to extend those feelings across every day and every hour, spreading a little light into all the Januaries, Mondays and hours when no celebration has been prescribed? I've been dreaming in vivids and swirls recently, but one's own dreams are never interesting to others. So I shan't say a thing about them. If you couldn't tell, we have walked together through the witching hour and out the other side. In fact, 3 hours have passed, and we are firmly dug into the morning. I get tired just thinking about the movement and life that has begun on the streets and in the offices of this city. Unreal City, under the brown fog....and nevermind all that. I'm tempted to go to bed and dip my feet lazily into books I can't be bothered to commit to fully reading. But didn't I say something about the sea? Yes. When the grind becomes audible, and the thud of a million feet invokes a languid, smug indolence, it's time to move. Now, rather than a moth, I can be like a perverted Cliff Richard going on a Winter Holiday. He can keep his Peter Pan antics and hordes of platinum blonde Rotherham adorers. I'll be the Lao Tsu of Pop to his short tennis, any day of the week. And finally, a reminder that my now-very-much-or-perhaps-only-provisionally-titled magazine, Glass Beads, is still desirous of contributors. Well, let's face it, I am desirous of contributors. If anyone is interested, they are more than welcome to get in touch. Did you know the English peasantry used to refer to one another as 'souls'? Can we trace the crumbling of community to terms of address falling out of fashion? Probably not. Did you know that, as I write and you read this, the tides are on the move and, though the moon is hidden, they are trying to reach up and touch its/his/her cheek? Until next time, souls, Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Nov 17 15:28:10 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:28:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Anyone fancy a night out? Message-ID: <20011117152810.91343.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> I wanrt to go out tonight, and am having trouble with getting my pals to agree to go out with me this evening. Anyone from Sinister in Glasgow or Edinburgh fancy going out somewhere tonight with me? Gigs, cinema, pubs or clubbing? go on, I bought some new flares today and I really want to wear them outside! Let me know... (I really *shouldn't* do this...) mobile 0781 216 8596 Cheers idleberry (bored and finding it hard to sit still cos she wants to go out.) ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sat Nov 17 18:09:12 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:09:12 Subject: Sinister: first post ever with B&S content - only. Well, almost. Message-ID: <191749127@spray.se> Hullo there sinister, how are you feeling today? I am feeling pretty good actually. Listening to the coolest swedish 60s pop EVER - Ola & The Janglers! They´re grate, everyone should listen to them. Download: Everything´s allright Don´t turn your back Can´t you feel (the ache in my heart) These three songs cover up their sound quite good. Yes. In my subject line, I wrote that there was supposed to be some B&S-content, and surely there will be. Some quesitons for the elder and wise.. BUT FIRST! This is a cry for help!!! I have the track Sometimes Always with Jesus & Mary Chain on a mix-cd i got from a boy i don´t know very well at all, and I am now DESPERATE for more. I want like an introductiontape or cd. I was all confused in the record shop and I didn´t buy anything. Of course I will make a tape back to the one who make me one. E-mail me offlist if you think that you could put together a nice tape with them for me. I´m seeking a introduciontape/cd with Felt as well. I´ve tried everywhere, but either no one listens to them anymore or something, or they are just being lazy. PLEEEEEEASE? *puppyeyes* Some things I´ve been wondering about for ages but still haven´t asked: 1. I´ve got some B&S-demos and livestuff. Does anyone know when following things were recorded and by who (i.e if there was only Struan or anyone else involved): a) Hurley´s having dreams (I think I hear Stevie there..) b) Rhoda (my favourite) c) Lord Anthony d) London has let me down e) Pocketbook angel (another favourite) f) Landslide (well, i know the whole band is on it, but does anyone know what year?) Also; Er.. Er.. ER... Oh fuck, I forgot. Oh well. Sorry for this short and very boring post, but I am desperate for answers. Please give me answers, I am desperate for them as this is bugging me to death. I think about it every-fuckin-day and I am getting sick and tired of it. I thought that it ould stop, but it´s stuck in my brain like gum in your hair. Like that´s a good excuse for writing a bad post... Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Sat Nov 17 20:53:06 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:53:06 EST Subject: Sinister: I don't think you could be dealing with the situation very well Message-ID: <103.c3cddec.29282833@aol.com> I would just like to say that I am very sorry for my last post being sent to you all about 10 times. My school's computer spazzed out and just kept sending it. It was not intentional, I promise. Hopefully you've all gotten over this minor annoyance by now, and won't hold it against me. Hopefully the computer won't do the same thing with this post, if so, I'm sorry in advance and its AOL's fault. Much love, Rachel Grapenut +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 03:00:19 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:00:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: glass of chocolate milk, head of lettuce, darkness of clouds at one a.m. Message-ID: I�ve been hungry a lot lately. And not just for food, although that is the most pressing hunger at the moment. I�m beginning to enjoy the sensation. It�s a constant reminder of sacrifice. What, exactly am I sacrificing, and why? I�m not sure entirely. Yet. But I�m getting there. I think. It started with cheese. I stopped buying it. I realized one day that one chunk of cheese costs the equivalent of 10 loaves of bread, or 7 bags of pasta, or an entire refrigerator full of fresh produce from the neighborhood open-air market, including eggs. I felt like a wasteful sloth. And one without money to spare. It was also partly because somehow I do all the grocery shopping and the flatmate does the produce shopping and I realized I was getting the bad end of that bargain. Oil and detergent and cheese and milk and cereal come out to a bit more than spinach and onions and oranges. So I�m boycotting the market. Which leaves me with a loaf of bread, a bag of rice, lots of water, and random vegetables. And since I lack the culinary creativity to transform the random vegetables into something appetizing, it�s been toast and water for a few days. This is all quite silly, I realize. I could simply ask the flatmate to go to the market for a change. But I feel that this can also be a valuable lesson in survival and poverty and making the most of raw ingredients. Or something. Another thing contributing to this little bit of insanity is the insomnia that has crept into my bedroom and taken over my life. It makes me do strange things. Or, more like it, it makes me not do things. Like leave the house in the day time. Or work. Or get out of bed much. Or eat. Because who can rationalize making a meal at 3 a.m.? The other day I had a long bath. My insane bedhead since then is evidence of how close I�ve gotten to the shower since. Not very. My flatmate has begun to look at me in disgust. My response has been to stay in my room as much as possible. Last night was a social evening. I did have to leave the room. I tried to tie my hair back and I entered the kitchen in my pajamas, having a beer and smiling as much as possible while the flatmate got drunk with her boyfriend and cooked an actual meal. Then I sat on the floor of the living room and ate the meal. Then I retreated to my room again. The other night I left the building. I had intended all week to see a horrid American film in hopes that it would be cheesy enough to make me smile and dream without making me think too much. Every night I thought to myself, �tonight is the night I leave the house and go to the film.� But something always came up. I�d be in middle of composing a particularly important, long email. Or I�d fall asleep while reading. Finally, on Thursday, I raced through the streets, late, to the theatre. It was a nice diversion, but an awful film. The walk home, however, was glorious. I felt acutely alone. I fancied myself a strange solitary character in a sad poem or serious novel, walking the dark, lonely streets at an odd hour, swept up in some sort of emotion or thought. I hugged my coat to me, passing young and old people, all dolled up for a night on the town. The air was chill yet just warm enough. I craved cheese. Or chocolate. Or any processed, horrid food. Yet I somehow resisted the temptation and reveled in the pangs of hunger in my belly as I rounded the corner down the brothel street, which was oddly quiet and empty. It felt good. I have no idea why. �I go my myriad ways blundering, bombastic, dragged by a self that can never be still, pushed by my surging blood, my reasoning mind.� Thank you Ted Berrigan. I do have the vague feeling that all this is not really healthy. And that the behavior actually worries people. It worries me sometimes. Enough to try to change it, in fact. But it�s also gotten comfortable. The other night I didn�t sleep at all. And today I was only able to sleep in two-hour periods. Time has lost all significance. I drift in and out of consciousness, and waking has become pretty similar to sleeping. I spend a lot of time in a dream-like state. I�ve started creating fiction in my head again. Today I wrote some of it down. It wasn�t any good. But it got out of my head, a little. I started to listen carefully to lyrics of songs, as if they hold the meaning of life or something. I�ve looked for it elsewhere, see, and I feel like I�m starting to recognize it in everything. I read something in a book and realize someone just told me the same thing in a letter and then I hear it in a song and it�s all a somewhat new revelation, but everywhere. Was it there before? Did I fail to see it? Maybe I wasn�t looking. In that case, how much else have I missed? I�ve been almost as hungry for meaning as for food. I guess there�s not much to do but lay in the darkness and think half the night away. It feels good to think again. I had stopped doing it because I would inevitably end up depressed. But I�m not now, oddly, even though of all times in my life, it is now that I am most alone. Monday I might start talking to heroin addicts again. Interacting with criminals and those on the fringes of society always makes me feel the most alive. They seem to have more insights than normal people. They seem to have experienced the real stuff of life. And they are honest. More honest than I am, even to myself. I will at least walk. Walk until my limbs hurt and my side aches. There�s nothing like physical fatigue to revive you. I listened to the new B&S single and it�s disturbingly twee. Like, too happy. And old-fashioned. I sighed when I heard it. And it made me sad. Because I was upset at how happy it was, so I thought that must make me old and bitter, or something. The day that I lose appreciation for B&S will be a very sad day. And I worried that it had come. So I put on IYFS in a panic and relaxed. A little. Maybe when I�m happier again it will all be ok. But for now. Eek! I want to take a walk. But I�m in my pajamas. And it�s not safe. So instead, I will put on some Fred Astaire and challenge myself not to think of Christmas. No, that is torture. I will put on some Camera Obscura and think of sweet Gavin and Primrose Hill and a bunch of sweet boys and girls huddled together awkwardly dreaming of a warm pub. And I will lay in the dark and join Ruvi in thinking about the sea, which is not so far away from here, and clear and enticing to most people but full of sea urchins who scare me away. I hate beaches. ~dahling ps: after that, I feel obliged to make you laugh. So please go to: http://buscemi.diaryland.com/older.html it�s Steve Buscemi�s online diary and it is absolutely hysterical. pps: Bug Stu, you scare me. You exude coolness like cheap cologne. And although I like the scent, I�m afraid to get too close because it�s a bit overpowering. I have a very sensitive nose. Ian, your dates with the list smell lovely. And Ruvi. Mmm. Ken, you know I love you. You make me smile. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 10:24:51 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:24:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ghost World Message-ID: <20011118102451.9023.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> hello... Do you want to come and see Ghost World next weekend at the UCG cinema in Glasgow? (it is the UCG.. isn't it? I always get these initialized places mixed up... UCG CGU CUG GUC... WHATEVER.. THE big TALL one) Thought we could make it a Sinister event, now its too cold to sit in parks harrassing dog walkers and eating sandwiches. Perfect for the shy- you get to meet a whole load of people, and for two hours you're not expected to talk to them, nor see them, cos you're in the dark, and you get a topic to talk about afterwards. Anyone else up for it? e mail me if you are.. more details to follow later in the week... Love Idleberry ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 12:39:44 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:39:44 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: He don't mind, he don't mind, he don't mind... Message-ID: <20011118123944.74705.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. I was wondering yesterday night with my best friend why do we have to love people. Anyway, I dated a very special guy during 2 years, but we decided we'd better break up, like, 2 months ago, because we weren't making each other happy. Fine, now we are friends, I miss him (of course), but I'm ok. Now I am dating a friend of mine. It was one of the best things that had ever happened to me, cause dating him was helping me try to forget my ex. But things are awful now, he acts like a child sometimes, he says things it's obvious he shouldn't say. He's from the contry side and when I asked him when he was going to come back to his city he said: "Maybe tomorrow, cause I got nothing to do here." This can even sound funny, cause he told me that so naturally like if I was going to feel nothing. Talking about beautiful girls in front of you is not a very polite thing when you are living the first month of the relatonship. Guys: don't do that, it's awful! It seems to me that I'm one of his boy friends. And I can't help comparing him to Leandro (my ex). That used to respect me a lot, used to send me letters, used to TAKE CARE of the relationship, from the first to the last month. And then, Danilo (my best friend) and I decided to create some nick names for people from college. I created my boyfriend's one: "Cocaine". Because "he don't mind, he don't mind, he don't mind...", or even "Careless Whisper". It's nice to make fun of it, but this is not funny at all. By the way, heve you ever been called your boyfriend's latest affair name? Oh, yeah, I have! Sorry, this is not for you to cry with, but to laugh about. I'm looking forward to buying the new EP, which hasn't been realesed here yet. I hope you are fine, and let me tell you something I felt like telling my friend yesterday: We only have a big love once in our lives. So don't ever, by any chance, let this love slip away because of stupid reasons. I can see now that it's very difficult to find someone who could replace this person. And you may regret having broken up for the rest of your life. Take care! Love, Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dimensionflip at xxx.uk Sun Nov 18 15:38:56 2001 From: dimensionflip at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:38:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: love and marmalade - an e-mail in three parts Message-ID: <000001c17047$8a1e1220$779389d4@default> (as the title said, there are 3 parts. the first two are my spraffle. the third is where i reply to list murmurings. if you'd rather avoid self-indulgent waffle, skip to the end. although there's plenty of self-indulgent waffle there, too. anyways.......) so much talk of love... so much crap spoken about love... so much smegma spoken in the name of love... time for some more: someone i once thought i knew told me: "ABC easy as 1, 2, 3 .....that's how easy love can be" that turned out to be the most vicious of lies. later on, that man cut his nose off to spite his face. in his elder years he asked me "what about elephants?". i didn't answer. i know nothing of elephants. i typed in "love" on the internet. i got a link to a page full of women fucking each other with dildos. perhaps they loved each other, but i wonder at so many loves in such a short space of time. i also got a link to a site telling me how much that ol' devil called god loves me. strange, because the internet also tells me that god hates fags. clearly, my relationship with god is one of those tightrope things. and, after the initial adrenalin rush, it gets very dull to walk a tightrope. best not to think of god's love, or to ask the internet about anything. the internet can be trusted no more than the man (one of the many) who sang: "love is the sweetest thing what else on earth can ever bring such happiness to everything?" whilst working for the mafia. i don't know, frank. covering someone's feet in concrete and dropping them into a canal, perhaps? i looked in a book to find out what love was. a book that was recommended to me on the subject. it said:- (vb.) 1. to have great fondness and affection for a person or thing it also said 9. a score of zero in tennis, squash, etc. this merely confused me. i found another book. it said "in the beginning, there was darkness". i put it down. i know enough about darkness. someone told me to read shakespeare. so i did, and i found the following: "thou whoreson zed! thou unneccessary letter". that seemed illogical. unnecessary? not if your name is zelda. particularly not if your name is zelda and you are a zebra living in a zambian zoo. shakespeare clearly knows nothing of love. and, nothing, it seems of alphabetical necessity. i tried philip larkin. a pleasing title for a poem - "love songs in age". but, alas, this too brought disappointment. larkin describes love as a "bright insipience". clearly, larkin has not felt the love that so many lay claim to. for who would die for a bright insipience? i tried looking at my feet for a while. that got boring. then came the answer. odd, that after so long - so much soul-searching by so many searching souls, the solution should come from such an unexpected source. i'm sure the enlightened amongst you know i mean bernard summer. i am, of course, familiar with the ouevre of the artist. consider his early work, in which he asked: "how does it feel/ to treat me like you do/ when you put your hands upon me/ and you tell me who you are?" i don't know. but i considered it only fair to ponder laying my hands upon him for some time. i even, out of devotion, laid my hands upon myself whilst considering laying my hands upon him. to no avail. i had no idea how it felt, and decided not to think about it any more. jason priestley was far prettier, and didn't ask such awkward questions. now, i regret neglecting this great prophet. for, on consulting his most recent work, i found the following wisdom: "here comes love its like honey you can't buy it with money" and i am amazed that this didn't cause great hysteria upon release. for it is so obviously, abundantly, marvellously simple. yet so incredibly true. one cannot buy love with money. and, therefore, it is plainly a sweet substance produced by bees that one occasionally spreads on toast. as for the trauma of trying to obtain a pot of gales from such retail establishments as safeway, holland and bastard, and even, sad to report, the marvellous marks and spencer, i'm sure i need speak no more. how many of us have got to the till, hoping against hope, clutching a five, ten, twenty pound note? how many of us have pleaded, begged the assistant? how many of us have offered sexual favours, only to be told this would place us in debit rather than credit (oh, just me, then) and still been unable to obtain the fabled nectar? anyone who knows anything about life, and love, i'm sure. which does make me wonder how that little jar of yellow stuff got in my cupboard. perhaps i've been smearing chicken fat on my toast all this time without realising. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- but, my dears, onto other matters. if love is honey, then what is marmalade? well, the answer is simple. for many of us, marmalade is the naughtiest girl in the world. now, this isn't a prompt for a discussion of children's television. that would only bring opprobrium upon my head and boring mails upon my in-tray. this is an epitaph. charlotte coleman, aged 33, died of an asthma attack yesterday. or perhaps friday. the news said she'd be most remembered for her role in "4 weddings and a funeral". the news, as so often, is not to be trusted. for this was the nadir of what was otherwise an inspiring screen life. you see, charlotte coleman WAS marmalade atkins. i can see half of the list scratching their heads, and perhaps pressing the "delete" key. the rest of you will know what this means, and why her parting is sad. marmalade was the kid we hated, but also wanted to be. as an intensely reactionary child, i watched her antics with horror. i watched as she put itching powder into the nuns' habits, as she caused a riot during her term in jail (why was she locked up with men? clearly there was something about marmalade we weren't told), as she... erm... i can't remember what else she did. it was what she symbolised. two fingers up at the world. inspiring to a child who wouldn't have dared raise a digit, even he'd know how. charlotte coleman also starred in "oranges are not the only fruit". and a frustrated teenager wondering about his own sexuality watched her and found some comfort in knowing somebody else had been there too. oh, and she appeared in some film with hugh grant. of whom the less said, the better. i don't believe in mourning celebrity deaths. the passing of a poet, a presenter, or an actress is no sadder than the passing of a plumber, a teacher or a shop-assistant. but still i feel a little depressed by this news. r.i.p. marmalade atkins. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- now, if any of you have read this far, there follows some random spraffle: james gilmer quoted me: >Ian said: "somewhere in the black mining hills of dakota there lived a young >boy called..." > >And now I have that bloody song stuck in my head. Someone hand me the mental >floss, Beatles song or not, I need that out of my head. you want that out of your head? okay.... "desmond has a barrow in the market place molly is the singer in a band desmond says to molly 'girl i like your face' and molly says this as she takes him by the hand.... -" if you know the song, you're already singing it.. he also, controversially, dared to say the following: >Speaking of Talent-Free Zones; Tori Amos..... The same goes for Magnetic Fields. well, vive le difference, my friend. i feel the same about jimi hendrix, i borrowed a copy of "electric ladyland" the other day, to see if i could figure out what i'd missed, and, sad to say, its fucking boring. personally, i think tori appeals to those of us who would like to visit the moon in a big green snow-shoe. and that will inevitably be a limited audience. an audience that would die on reaching the moon because they'd packed lots of books and neil gaiman comics but no breathing apparatus. as for the magnetic fields, i reckon its like marzipan. you either get it or you don't. and, personally, i just love them almonds. ruvi simmons pulled down the moon and posted it to sinister, and suggested moving christmas: >When January >descends like a great bore and we wear two pairs of socks for the cold, >waiting for Spring. After all, it is in the dark hours when the kindness of >strangers, or virtual strangers, or real strangers, counts for the most. lovely. and if poetic prose could shift symbolic events, december would be staring at the gaping hole in its midrif as we speak. however, i like christmas where it is. we're near the death of the year, the death of everything that has to precede re-birth. and, after a death (the solstice) there has to be a wake. january holds a whole new year within it. its a time for hoping, and saying you'll never make the same mistakes again. a bit of darkness and sobriety is what is needed for such reflection. failing that, its a good time to purchase a large bottle of tequila and some sunbed sessions. with the money you'd otherwise spend on a pair of musical santa socks for some ungrateful bastard uncle who'd never wear them. and now, i think its time for my virtual mouth to rest. so, finally, i have an "ian award" to give out. the first of the year. sophie ellis bextor is the beneficiary, and her achievement is to release the song with the most appropriate title of the year: "murder on the dancefloor". in which she warns us "you'd better not kill the groove". thank you for the words of advice, sophie, however we both know they are a trifle redundant. the Groove is twitching its final death-throe on the plush-pile carpet, and the nail file in its heart bears your preposterous finger-prints. i don't have a hair on my keyboard, and would probably refrain from telling you if i did. thank you for reading. and, as the buddha once said "shut the fuck up, ian" ian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 16:48:16 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:48:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: winter is wrong. Message-ID: <20011118164816.1035.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> I really don't like winter. I don't like the effect it has on me, where I feel all creatively restless. Its getting dark outside already. I get the spooks out of Winter. Its full of too many memories of stuff, you know, like being at school and having prelims in the winter. Being at uni and having loads of essays to do and sitting late in the library when it was dark and going home in the cold past the lights and sounds of the union bar. Loosing energy, loosing daylight. Feeling lonely, even though my address book ha plenty of names in it for me to browse through. I hate work cos I can't wear my new jeans to work. I hate work cos I can't dress the way I want to, and end up wearing work clothes and feeling frumpy and crap. I hate work cos the way it gets dark outside and the way the lights are.. its just too creepy. I'd appreciate having your e mails to read while I'm at work. Bring me a little e-sun. Love, Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 17:14:20 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I see dallas, dynasty, silver hawks, he-man, tom and jerry, dukes of hazzard, airwolf, blue thunder, rambo, road runner, daffy duck, the A-team, the A-team,... In-Reply-To: <000001c17047$8a1e1220$779389d4@default> Message-ID: <20011118171420.70189.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> I was, like, gonna post. and, right, I have. I was gonna. but I had none of the inspiration. so I wasn't. but I have. and there's still none of the inspiration. but I did it. yeah. it's just been kinda slow of late. and it's just that I liked ian's post. and I thought I'd pick up some of the ones he used. but without copying him. I hope. d. as always: please forgive the inconsistent tensing. it isn't so annoying. sometimes you won't even notice. I promise. INVINCIBLE/HEY MATTHEW [with thinking: that could be cheeky][naw. but only if you thought about it too much.] ian said of a song: >"ABC >easy as 1, 2, 3 >.....that's how easy love can be" > >that turned out to be the most vicious of lies. >later on, that man cut >his >nose off to spite his face. in his elder years he >asked me "what about >elephants?". >i didn't answer. i know nothing of elephants. ABC. I rediscovered my old NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC tapes recently. yep. I was on a train on wednesday. it was probably wednesday. and in the morning and busy. and lucky to get a seat. and unlucky for it to be beside the people it was beside. ladies talking about a 'girl' they work with who has thrown away opportunities. chances. there was a LOT of talk. it really sounded like these women were concerned. rather than just bloody gossipping. sounded. and ONE OF THEM. yeah. she says that this 'girl'. they said 'silly girl' so many times. well. she's 'biting off her nose to spite her face'. I was pretending to sleep. I gave up pretending after I erupted in mirth at her wonderfully illustrative simile. well. it's similar. and you'd use 'like'. [even if you didn't]. but. I mean: if you were to cut off your nose to spite your face. well. if something were LIKE that. that's an EXTREME measure. BUT WOW. if you were to BITE it off. blimey. that girl. I dono. she musta been a bit. and the woman that said it. she musta been a bit. confused. like. she was cutting off the hand that feeds her. anyhow. the other women kept going and didn't notice. and one where a guy said of his beaten up bike. like. to express that he still found it useful. 'y'know, it gets you from here to B'. I like it when things get mixed up. I'm sure someone probably got a bit overly...yeah...and said that something would get you 'from A to Z' as well. comprehensive. it sure sounds familiar. perhaps I've just thought it before. what! sorry. ANOTHER from the same as the other two. at home for the weekend. my dad was going out and told me. he was. going tiger hunting with his elephant and gun. there are worse things to have in your head. one that has a line 'running just as fast as we can...' I went to a nightclub last night. during the night. I don't go to nightclubs. but being home for the weekend. and seeing kids I knew from high school. they go to nightclubs. so. and one of the kids one of the kids I know knows. talked about a 'song' that goes on and on about 'sexy eyes' and how, once, mistakenly,, he sang it to a girl with a glass eye. lots of us pretended to laugh. lots and lots. pretended. ONE MORE ian said jim gilmer said: >>Speaking of Talent-Free Zones; Tori Amos..... >The same goes for >Magnetic Fields. ian said something in french which I guessed meant he didn't quite agree. yes. the magnetic fields couldn't be talent-free in my opinion. right. and jimi. I never really got around to trying to be interested in that. although I did almost rush out and buy an album when I heard of 'electric landlady'. but then my brother told me the real title of it and I realised that I don't really suit rushing anyway. so I didn't. either. let me continue. and add. perhaps not in a positive way. I never really liked your pink floyd or your led zeppelin. and I like them less that just not not liking them now. since a kid at my school professes being 'ALL ABOUT MUSIC' but only likes led zeppelin. and pink floyd. oh. and cream. there are others that I never really could see the fuss about [I typed 'fudd' there initially. F. cuh.] but, perhaps, in time. or perhaps not. if the things I wrote were all well laid out and, like, were constructed the best they could be. maybe it would be less fun. and I'd hate it if I used all that punctuation 'properly'. look- AT LAST I was trying to figure out why mandee wright hasn't gotten any crushvotes yet. I gave up; a waste of time: there's no reasonable explanation. I'd rectify it myself if I could. if I were able to. if I had the power. some people will realise I should imagine.:;,they always do. I can't think of anything else to write. or to not. oh. I think a bunch of us should get together and get a book of scots colloquial-speak together for the pinefox. or go to the cinema. no. we needn't choose. we can do both. 'though. cinema this week. perhaps. 'member an' bring yer jeely-jaurs. anything else? oh. and. KIRSTEN MARIE KENYON. yeah. I see the A-team, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 19:10:47 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:10:47 EST Subject: Sinister: Connectivivivivivity (Slightly older than before--) Message-ID: <82.133cacad.292961b7@aol.com> Sinister, Wouldn't it be great if we could all eat packed lunches together (not in paper sacks, but rather, those large metal monsters that have hinges on them?) while balanced on a construction site beam? Inbetween bites of our stringy meated sandwiches we could glance at stolen blueprints that were sketched together by Mr. R.J. Gillanders who would be standing about 300 feet below us, looking up at our backs through shaded glasses. But anyway, I didn't want to really get into this as much as I did: needless to say, it's a cute image, all 1,500 of collective us balanced on this construction site beam. About eight months ago I met my great aunt Noni for the first time ever--I'd seen her around before, at funerals and weddings and crap, but I'd never met her: only heard about her. Apparently she was the beautiful sister, my grandfather wanting to marry her first but having to settle for Bead, my grandmother. So it was February, and had just snowed, and my family was pulling into the driveway of my Great Aunt Noni's house in Lincoln, Nebraska--her driveway cleaved bare, morseled in the midst of blankets of snow. Her house smelled like moldy trash and cats, beanie babies poised on every flat surface, waving flags, their ears flopping over from the heavy burden of store tags--her little black dog and her little black cat cycloned around my feet and I heard Great Aunt Noni shout from the kitchen: "Stevie! Oprah!" Their ears pricked up at her voice and they corralled into the kitchen. Photographs of Dick Cheney dotted every blank space on the wall--my Great Aunt Noni sat us down at her dining room table which was decorated with Little Debble Oatmeal Pies, and told us stories of living next door to Vice-President Dick--"Such a nice man, really," she'd said. She offered us the said oatmeal pies. "Why are your pets names Oprah and Stevie?" I asked her. "Well--because they're black," she answered, as if it had been completely obvious. Here is the problem with my telling of anecdotes: I don't know how to end them properly. I can either bring them to a sudden jolt and leave it up to you, or tack on some little scrap of narration to explain the point. I am no teller like Kirsten Kenyon, who somehow can tell anecdotes and end them perfectly--see, here I am, and I don't know where I go next. Seeing as this is, indeed, a Belle and Sebastian mailing list, I should probably, at least, take at least a time out to make some sort of connection with my anecdote to B&S--this could be a few things. For one, the dogs name was Stevie. The other pet I have no consideration for. "Oprah" I cannot juxtapose with Belle and Sebastian. Sadly enough, this seems to be the only connection to Belle and Sebastian in the anecdote--or maybe the snow, blanketed like it was, if only a wee fox could have jaunted across the yard at those few crucial moments, but.. sadly, no such thing happened. So. help me. ******** mandee m a y "inconsolably okay" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Sun Nov 18 20:47:06 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:47:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "vyvyan! vyvyaaan! i think you cut off one of your fingers!" Message-ID: <00b001c17072$3569e6c0$0c684cd5@default> hello darlings! :) i know i know i'm much better at lurking than posting, but i'm so stressed about school/exams/everything at the moment that i need a de-stresser of some kind. please forgive. "my name's alexei yuriy gagarin siege of stalingrad glorious 5-year-plan sputnik tractor dynamo moscow balowski. my father was a bit of a communist, you see" (sorry if i missed something ;-) thanks to the lovely miss amy/rachel applejacks and 'the people's poet' caleb ben there's been some talk of 'the young ones' in sini (a few digests ago :)! yay! :) it was enough to make me start jumping round the flat quoting bits and pieces of the script in different voices (much to the bewilderment of my mum ;). i used to watch the young ones on bbc, but then the series ended and later my cable operator decided to substitute bbc with (watch it) *fashion tv*. gaaah. my mate even called them and started ranting that no, they couldn't stop broadcasting bbc, because HER (imaginary) ENGLISH HUSBAND couldn't live without eastenders :))) haha :) however, even that cunning try didn't work - perhaps cos they heard me laughing in the background ;) so anyway, i was reminded of the young ones, decided to watch the few taped episodes that i cherish dearly - and discovered that my silly video *ate* a *large*bit* of my *favourite* young ones film. rah. "do you really think that anyone has ever been the slightest bit interested in anything you say or do ever, neil?" (or in this case, ola?) last week, i found myself waking up at about 4 am on 3 consecutive nights, my nose in some boring book, the content of which i was invariably supposed to know... if only i could schedule my activities more reasonably, perhaps i wouldn't have those horrid bags under my eyes.. ;) and perhaps i wouldn't spend my days staggering about in a half-asleep manner which is mighty dangerous(!) example: wednesday.. dance classes.. me and my partner are supposed to dance a new figure in samba (yay!). however, instead of swirling gracefully i trip on my heels and partner has to rescue me from what would have become a rather amusing fall. hmm :) dance classes are still way better than normal PE lessons, though.. "...it is actually a cure. for not being a homicidal axe-wielding maniac." a building site right next to the place you live in can make your life much more eventful. not only do you have to put up with incessant noise (rrrrrramrrrrrrammm buh buh buh rrrramrrrrrram etc.) but there are also other, similarly pleasant aspects to deal with. now i don't think i'll ever resort to throwing axes at the builders who work there.. ..although i was really tempted to do so on friday. i was in the midst of washing up, when - where's the water gone? have the silly builders dug+drilled too deep and damaged the water installation, thus depraving my house of the precious liquid? IMPOSSIBLE. hmph. *doorbell* nope, not apologetic builders. not even jehova witnesses - they were chimney sweeps offering me a calendar and asking for money. (make of it what you want ;). i decided to go out. the lift broke down when i was inside it. now i don't mind the lift breaking down every now and then - walking to the 4th floor is good exercise (only i'm too lazy to do it often ;). nevertheless, i WOULD like the lift to give me a sign, a mere *hint* that she was not in the mood for travelling up and down. not just go in a huff and leave me stuck inside, in-between floors. i had to use all my persuasive skills to appease her and convince her to let me out. it turned out she was angry at the lady who lives upstairs from me and uses those *mega*strong perfume - poor lift had obviously had enough. but why take it out on me? when i got back, i found out there was water again. only it was brown. tea-brown. oh well... it's become fairly normal now. and 2 jehova witnesses came today. so things are back under control, me hides the axe ;-) "rick, rick look! i've got six pairs of hands!" hm, no i don't actually. ;-) which is probably why i posted my pic to the sinister page (and besides, i'm very vain and want to pull ;). it was taken a while ago; my hair's shorter and a bit less messy now. oh, and the photo is mega twee, i'm afraid - i'm sitting at a rainbow-coloured table in a cafe in the centre for contemporary art (one of my most favourite places in warsaw :). i'm even wearing the bus t-shirt(!) so, yeah, it'll probably be on the site soon /me climbs a chair and sings 'look at me' geri halliwell style ;-) ummh, no. will hide now. take care (and watch 'the young ones' ;) ollalalallaa ps. i've decided to catch up with sinister mails instead of writing silly essays for school (talk about getting your priorities right!) - so, errm, a (very) belated welcome back to owen the ex-narrow wizard :) and an (even more) belated happy birthday! (yes, i was THAT behind with the digests) psps. i really will hide now. -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Sun Nov 18 21:32:10 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:32:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: another slice of ugly and awkward prose through your computer Message-ID: Simon was waiting for night time. He had been waiting most of the day, but now the sky was growing lazily streaked with orange and pink and soon the streetlights would be on. He�d been sitting in the park for most of the day because it was his day off work, and he had wanted to do something he�d be able to remember. He had spent the last couple of days thinking up exactly what this would be, but a suggestion both affordable and desirable hadn�t come to him and so he�d decided to spend the day in the park by where he lived. In fact, he was pretty sure he could see the window to his own flat from the bench � 14 floors up, the counting made him dizzy though. He played the whole day back in his mind; he had arrived early, not quite early enough to watch the elderly dog walkers mooching slowly through the damp grass, not even talking to their dogs anymore, but he had seen the kids wander through towards the bus stops on their way to school. His favourite bench was the one in front of the small pond, and he had resolved to sit there the whole day, doing what, he wasn�t sure, but in the days leading to today he had thought that such a use of time would look good written in his diary. Recently, keeping a diary had become a more and more unsatisfying task, it had started off, as all diaries do, as a noble exercise in recording Simon�s thoughts and actions, but in recent weeks it had descended into diatribes about his work colleagues, how much he despised them, and how much they returned this sentiment. It wasn�t a special hatred on either side, nor a particularly passionate one; the other people who worked in the office had been there for years, and they resented Simon�s scruffiness and his tendency to go off wandering at lunchtimes rather than stay and make small talk in the cafeteria. They hated the way Simon seemed to silently sneer at them, they way he silently seemed to have no respect for authority or for the work he was doing. Simon hated them because he knew that he could do very little to change their opinion of him, because it wasn�t him particularly that they hated; they would have hated anyone young who came to work in that grey/yellow office, they were faded, just dull whispers of what Simon was, of themselves, and they hated him because he would never collude with them, never allow himself to go near that world in case it sucked him in � an ugly black hole, void, grey. The last thing he ever wanted was to become like them. None of this, however, looked good in his diary, he wanted something he could grasp onto when he read it back, he wanted to be able to pick days out and hold them up to the light and watch tiny rainbows play over their facets. He couldn�t achieve this with dull platitudes about office politics, and he always seemed to sound petty and childish whenever he criticised his colleagues. But today was a chance to change it. Last night he had mused upon the contrariness of contriving an exercise just for the purpose of putting it in his diary and he wondered who he was writing the whole thing for exactly. He was loath to say it was for himself, partly because it made him sound pathetic, but also because he liked to entertain the romantic notion that someone would find it one day, maybe long after Simon�s death, and spend hours poring over the tattered, yellowing pages, warped with love as much as the effects of time and they would slowly come to adore the writer of that diary. So he had walked to the park in the morning half sun and sat down on his favourite bench by the duck pond, sat with the shell of an idea in his mind and thought about making his life more like this, more like a collection of set-pieces where he was the lead actor, which he could wander through in a capricious haze; that was what life should truly be like, a whirlwind of choices without real consequence, and with plenty of time to sit and think about what had transpired at the end of it all. Simon wondered vaguely if his day sitting in the park had matched that. If it hadn�t then he probably didn�t deserve a life like that, he had had the choice of doing pretty much anything today, and he�d chosen to sit here in a grubby park where the windswept grass clung to the sparse soil, on the bench that he could see from the window of his own flat even on the foggiest of days. He had sat on the bench for only an hour or so before boredom had crept up on him, he was thinking about feeding the ducks, because that too would look good in his diary, a springboard for some nostalgic childhood reflection about happier times. It didn�t occur to him that he had never ever fed the ducks as a child, and it didn�t matter really, Simon was used to such speculation and he reasoned that it�s better to borrow from the stereotype of a projection of a feeling, or an experience, rather than an actual one that you�d had yourself, because his own experiences were littered with anomalies, which constantly plagued his reminiscences. He decided to go to the paper shop over the road and buy some bread for the ducks, he liked the idea of this sort of dealing in absolutes, he liked untainted sentences and untainted experiences, that�s what he sought most of all from today. And so his diary wouldn�t mention the uneven tarmacking in front of the paper shop, where the pavement had been dug up, and then replaced several times over, each time with a new shade of grey concrete or black tarmac. Nor would he mention the metal grill in front of the shop window, originally there to stop people throwing bricks through the window, now completely rusted and stuffed with empty crisp packets and sweet wrappers, even though there was a bin just up the road by the bus stop. His diary would never mention these details because he liked to deal in the absolutes of experience, in clean sentences and pure feelings. So he bought the bread and a newspaper and ambled back to his favourite bench by the pond. Feeding the ducks was unrewarding and messy, which was probably why he hardly ever saw anyone ever doing it nowadays. The ducks looked starved, Simon wondered what made them stay; and then thought better of it. He tried to do the crossword in the paper, but it was much too hard; he thought about the sort of people that crosswords appealed to, and remembered a boy called Ian who he had gone to school with, Ian had the crossword almost every day, and he nearly always completed it. This worried Simon, who had never completed a crossword in his life; and school was almost ten years ago. What skill had Ian possessed that Simon didn�t have? He was about ready to give up when an old man that Simon sort of recognised came and sat down next to him, this wasn�t really part of the plan either, but they chatted for a bit and the man told him about how the park used to be much bigger before they built those flats, pointing a disdainful finger at Simons own block. Simon told him how he lived in those flats, to which the man replied that he did too. Slightly disturbed, Simon made his excuses and left; deciding to go into town for some lunch, it was only a couple of stops on the bus anyway, so he wouldn�t be long. Town was pretty full for a weekday, but Simon didn�t mind; he enjoyed indulging in the loner in the crowd clich�, and adjusted his walk and facial expression accordingly. He bought an egg and cress sandwich from Marks and Spencers, and ate it moodily on a crowded bench, wondering if, rather than just playing the stereotype of the affected loner, he actually was one. This was a depressing thought indeed and it stayed with him all the way to the big HMV which he visited every time he went to town even though he hardly ever bought anything. He often worried that the staff in there were getting to know him as a loner who never bought anything. He was therefore relieved to see his friend Laura wandering aimlessly down the aisles of CD�s in the manner often taken by people who don�t know much about music. Simon knew Laura from university where they�d got on fairly well, though Laura had always been a more social animal. Simon remembered envying her for that, for a lot of things really; but few of them were worth dwelling on. Simon liked to think that people envied him too sometimes, as he genuinely believed that everyone possessed something desirable, and thus somebody must surely desire him. This view seemed flawed though somehow, but Simon couldn�t question it now, he had to deal in absolutes, otherwise he would never get anywhere. It deflated him to think like that too, and when it came down to it, he reckoned he could deal with the big stuff, and probably manage ok if it wasn�t for all the little niggles of life, the dust in the grooves that occasionally made the record stick. And he felt that these things, which individually weren�t really worth commenting on, were latching on to him like burrs, he could see it in the condensation of his warm breath in winter time, in the play of grey/orange light from passing cars through his thin curtains on his bedroom wall; he could see it in the rusted metal grate stuffed with crisp packets and old cans, there to stop people throwing bricks through the paper shop window. All these things registered, and yet didn�t, he could pretend that he only had to deal in the tangible, in the stuff he could put down in his diary, the stuff that effortlessly came out in gobs of biro blue ink on his page. But all the time the little things, he knew, were working through his system, colouring his beliefs like wine through water. He knew too, that if he stayed still and shut them out he could separate himself from them, make them sit like oil on top of water inside himself, but only temporarily, not long before they would seep back in, chipping away at his principles, because maybe someone would desire him, or envy him, but they didn�t, he�d never experienced it, at least not in the sense that he envied Laura; and he despised the thought that his whole edifice of belief might be brought down by these tiny erosions. Despised the thought that he could be changed by these unnameable entities, by nuances. He had to deal in absolutes, in the tangible, had to push these tiny thoughts into the periphery. Concentrate. Back in HMV, Simon was recommending some CD�s to Laura; she seemed genuinely impressed with his wide range of tastes and the scruffily debonair way in which he grabbed stuff from almost every shelf and briefly enthused about its contents. It scarcely mattered to Simon that he owned very few of these records, he knew the names so well that if he ever got round to actually buying some of them then he imagined that they would well up in his mind like an old memory being dusted off or an encounter with an old friend. Laura even agreed to buy one of the CD�s Simon particularly liked, and actually owned. For Simon, this was experience in almost its purest sense, it bothered him slightly that Laura had that kind of money to spend on a whim, when there were tons of records he wanted but couldn�t possibly afford; but this feeling was at best peripheral. There had been something good between the two of them for that fleeting moment, a real sense of one person trusting one another. There was something childlike about that gesture, Simon felt they had both gained a great deal from it. This was something he could put down and remember, and even though the way Laura said goodbye to him made him feel like just a friend of a friend again, the moment they had shared could be held onto, and he would hold it there in his mind until that evening, when he could write it down in cosy reminiscence. He caught the bus back, and as he meandered along towards the bench he thought again about the validity of contriving a whole days activities almost solely so that he could write them down and then reminisce about them sometime later. He wondered if the diary was an end unto itself, and if he read today�s entry in ten or twenty years it would be nothing more than words on a page to him; or if it was a trigger to actual physical memories of his thoughts and actions on that day. If it was just a trigger then it would only really be useful to himself, and reducing his existence to just words on a page, to just cheap biro ink on thin diary paper made the whole task seem utterly pointless. He had thought about indulging in an expensive fountain pen and good cartridge paper for his diary, and though money had got in the way of such a venture, Simon truly thought that these items would have made his diary better. He acknowledged the validity in such ritual gestures and in occasional moments of clarity he admitted to himself that he preferred style over content, but who didn�t? In his mind his diary was a weighty tome, almost too heavy to lift, with yellowing pages full of faded ink in sprawling, but elegant handwriting and his vision rarely included what the actual words said. How could he come close to this with his pound shop office diary, with its tacky fake leather cover and wafer thin pages, and his chewed biro which was missing the lid and nearly run out? Part of him knew that he shouldn�t invest hope in such trivialities, that he should concentrate on recording his true thoughts, that everything else should be peripheral, but another part of him so wanted to submit to the clich�s and the stereotypes, to embrace them fully. He felt that if he could get other peoples perception of him right then everything else would fall into place, and so he had to stick to what they knew. He wondered what they�d think of him here, alone in an ugly, grubby park with a dual carriageway running down the one side, and a couple of blocks of flats where there used to be more park. He shivered slightly and shrugged, it was getting quite dark by now and the others would probably already be back at the flat. Simon thought that today had probably fallen short of the mark, and although he hadn�t really had any clearly defined goals he had expected to feel sort of different by the end. But he didn�t. Too many things had gotten in the way, tainted the experience, uneven concreting, flats where there used to be park, being just a friend of a friend. None of that had been part of the script that Simon hadn�t written for the day. He thought it was probably time to go back. As he was getting up he noticed a poem scratched into the wood of the bench and he recognised it as being one of his friend Jonathan�s. He read it quietly to himself and thought that even though the scratches made the bench look as illiterately vandalised as everywhere else; Jonathan�s beautiful words transformed it into something unexpected and brilliant. Simon wondered if anyone else had read the poem, or if they had just glanced over the hastily made indentations and turned away in disgust, dismissing it as just more mindless graffiti. He got up to go, thinking about how much different today would sound if he ever read the diary entry he was about to write in 10 or 20 years. The lift would still be broken, so he readied himself for the stairs again. peace and love kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 04:31:01 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:01:01 +1030 Subject: Sinister: from the lobby Message-ID: My lovelies: Normally I�d post because I had something to say, or through a sudden rush of affection, but something else is making me write today. I hope it turns out to be more than the fear that I�ll be forgotten about. We�ll see. To the untrained eye, it looks like I�m doing alright. I have the �dream� job, a nice place to live, handsome friends, enough food and too much drink. The thought strikes me, however, that most of my time is spent working towards something that I may or may not have wanted at the time at which I set out, for reasons that may well have changed while I�ve been busy paying attention to other things. The rest of my time, of course, is spent in costly and damaging escapes from my working life. There was meant to be something else. I�m sure that I�ll find time for the things that matter to me, that are important, that make all of this other stuff worth surviving. There will be a Sunday afternoon, a quiet evening in, a time when things ease back a bit. Where on earth do we pick up the notion that we can trust ourselves? I have thought a lot about happiness. It seems to me that happiness is the ability to look just far enough ahead. To strike a balance between doing what will make me feel good right now, and what will make me feel good tomorrow about the person I have been today. If anyone has any ideas on how to actually do this � answers on the back of a postcard, please. I find myself happiest when at the point of beginning to tear open the wrapping paper � knowing just the general size and heft of things. Anticipation excitingly narrows to an edge, then to a point. Idle wonder has been put aside: the thing has substance. It�s nothing yet, though, so it�s still potentially everything. There�s not a thought spare for what�s been left out; I�m still unencumbered. I find less within me than I once did. I don�t think that there�s less there; I think I spend less time looking. Sometimes there�s a message, a package, a phonecall, a song, a painting, a book. Sometimes a leaf falls from a tree and lands at your feet. Sometimes you think of someone, and they think of you. Sometimes you see between and through things. Sometimes this makes you feel warm, at others: cold. I�m trying to make myself a better person. I�ve given up the fags, cut back on the booze, lost some weight. I�m working more, spending less. I�m being more honest, feeling more. None of this is working, but I�ll press on for a bit yet. I may not be principled, but at least I�m stubborn. Some good things happened. I went to Melbourne last weekend and had some fun. I drank and danced too much (I drink well and dance badly) and talked to some people I don�t know. I got some new records, which I really like. I played some cards, and won some money. A cocker spaniel decided that it really liked me, and wouldn�t let me sleep for three nights, with licking my ear and jumping on my face. I didn�t mind. Is this what it�s about? I guess I wasn�t promised anything. I�ve spent some time alone lately: I think perhaps it�s showing. I�m normally far cheekier and less contemplative. I won�t make a habit of posting when I find myself in this mood. Squeezing you lot into my lunch break, alongside an orange juice and a tuna sandwich in the middle of a long day at my desk isn�t really an appropriate outlet. Still, you�ve given me a lot lately, so I�ll give you something back, even if it�s not what you wanted. Take your time with the wrapping paper. I�ve got a big trip coming up, for which I�m not prepared. It�s scary/exciting, and I�m trying to look just far enough ahead. Well, I think that was worse than my usual post, but at least it was shorter. In any case, take nothing but the very best of care of yourselves, and stay lovingly rolled in flour and lightly pan-fried. Bulk love, -David. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 08:34:31 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:34:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: It's no wonder Ken Chu is dribbling spit tonight Message-ID: <20011119083431.61809.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> HELOOOOOOO SINISTERINES!!! This is my fourteenth post to the list...It has been well over a week since I last posted. Did you miss me? I got really busy. Then I got really depressed. Then I got really busy again. Just when I got the e-mails in my inbox waiting for comment down below 50, the sun rose again and again and now it's numbered 85. So I figured, hell, I might as well post what I already put together (I got nearly to the end of last Monday) because if I comment on all of the stuff still in the inbox, this email is going to be 50k!!! As it is this one is going to be a long post! It's all good stuff, but nothing deserving an email of legendary proportions! (sorry Ken!) WELCOME!!!******************************************** Welcome to Alan from Scotland!!! and Claudia from Brazil!!!! AND Paisley! Owen returns with less cinnamon, and just had a birthday! Welcome back, and happy belated birthday!!! Also welcome back to the List Dom Lisa!!! Welcome back to Stine who was out of commission for 8 days!! Jim PURPLE TROUSERS... just checking to see if you are randomly-skim-lurking right now! I *do* remember you from my lurking days a few years back, too! the links to the pics were grate in this latest post of yours! Guess who else came out of the woodwork--John Jennings wrote: "i'm fit and healthy again i shall be back touring the sinister picnics faster than you can say 'who the hell is john jennings anyway?'. how exciting." THE LONGEST SENTENCE HE'S EVER WRITTEN**************** Rich. Gil. Wrote: "then I discovered the criticising had begun at nine a.m. and was scheduled to end at one p.m.. " I get all excited just thinking, OOH, what if he had actually written out a.m and p.m. instead of abbreviating them!!? But then I was sad because he missed his crit. KEN'S KORNER****************************************** Ken Chu wrote: "I woke up the next morning and someone was using my bum as a pillow, it was quite funny." Damn KEN! I knew you were giving your bum to others!!! Here's Ken: "but fruity, I was DRUNK!" And here's me: "Butt fruity is right, sucka!" Once your legions of fawning sinister women read that, all of your viable list crush votes will be tossed by the wayside! And also Ken said: "unfortunately this post had been a bit behind. I do love you tho. Okay, I better stop this right now, apparently... (***DIDN'T CHU KNOW***) Girls seldom make passes, at boys who talk about asses..." Later on he wrote: "my language gets foul when I don't receive loads of e-mails from girls. That wasn't a hint, by the way, in case you were wondering. It was an order. ;-)" I WROTE CHU and where did it get me? Pillowless in Los Angeles! And then Ken wrote of his own demise: "His only salvation now to exit from Hell, he'd been told, is if he goes to the picnic in London this Saturday and gets snogged by girls. You won't bear to see a pretty boy get trapped in hell forever would you?" I hope SOMEONE is snogging Ken right now as I type this. And lord help me if I get what I wish for, and it's my darling list crush bunny Benny Apps! (I mean, guys, wait for me! I'll bring my video camera!) LOVEY-DOVEY******************************************* Desmond Torpey wrote: "*thwack*..you see the person again and your stomach does a triple backflip and your knees have taken leave of your legs and your lungs have moved to honalulu leaving you a jibbering breathless wreck..." I *love* this description!!!! I want to feel like this right now. But I mostly just feel tired and my feet are cold. Rachel O.J. wrote: "so, my ex is refusing to leave me alone. damn him. i believe it's thru with monica, and now he wants me back. i love him, i really do, i cant help it! I believe that no matter how much you love the ex, you have to try not to throw all of your hate and anger onto the other woman because the ex is the one who made the decision that hurt you. I would rather see you movin on than to accept him back after those shenanigans! It could start a pattern that will effect your relationships for the rest of your life. Have pride in yourself. You're worth so much more than that! Claudia wrote in her first post: "I guess life is all about being in and out of love. Sometimes it may be disappointing and hurtful, but it still worth a try..." Yes, indeed. No matter how bad it feels when it's bad, it's still worth it to fall in love again. Believe me, I can be cynical but I still love being in love. I've never been in love with someone who loved me back, so I'm still hoping to find that sometime. I have a close friend who is trying to tell me that I have to love myself first and I think he's really smart about these things. Seamus wrote: "all I could think of,looking round and thinking, was "why here?" Ugly looking college canteen, and they'll never let me film this crap here anyway! Five minutes later, and we were in a idyllic wooded area, sitting on a stone bridge, laughing our asses off. I ended up sleeping on her couch for 6 weeks after that. Surreal maybe." I want to live life like a movie, always. I think that is a cute story because you two were able to make light of a bad situation by sharing an inside thing. That in itself is very cinematic! Are you the same Seamus that I sold my New York Belle & Sebastian tickets to back in '98? Rich. Gil. wrote of being too old to chase girls: "and here's me just considering starting...tell me it's never too late." It's never too late Rich. I know of several girls who are running whilst looking over their shoulder at you winking! Grainne wrote: "It's the time of the year when the main reason you want a man in your life, in your bed is to steal his body heat." Hmmmm. Yes. It would be nice to cuddle up with something less furry and without waking up to claws. Dirty Vicar wrote: "it took me several cold winters to realise that there was nothing stopping me from buying an extra duvet. I recommend doing just that, they're far less hassle than lovers." Thanks for that advice. I love duvets an awful lot. I guess keeping warm isn't a good reason to take a lover after all! Amy Longcore aka Rachel Apple Jacks wrote: "she kisses me. not a nifty lil' peck on the cheek or lips. she open mouth kisses me. and i am lost in it." I liked this story Amy. It was very personal. I try to imagine what I would do in that situation, but I think the guilt of kissing someone else's wife would really eat away at me. I hope that you are feeling ok about it. Assman Walton wrote: "The message for this post is: Asm is not a Stud Muffin. He might be, but generally he's not." generally not, but it depends on what your definition of Stud Muffin is! I'd wager you're a bit of a stud muffin! Caleb Ben aka RAW wrote: "so tonight i will go dancing with my friends and feel lonely and disconnected from my surroundings as i think of a girl sleeping far off, alone in her bed, dreaming of me....." That is so sweet darling Caleb!!! That is the best thing about list crushes, I think. Picturing that person being far off and thinking of you...the cutie Mr. B knows that I am thinking of him quite often. He is amazing me more and more as I get to know him better... *sigh* a story for another post. Will Salt wrote: "I sent a crush vote to someone the other week. I think they guessed straight away that I had sent it. I hope they're happy right now." Geez, Will, whoever you voted a crush on sure is lucky!! Even though you're "THE ENEMY" I still think you're a very crushable character, indeed! But don't tell Ben! ;) Cut-up Kate wrote: "List crushes- good enough, yet do you really trust them? Its all in good fun unless they live closs enough to meet..." Well, as Ben and I, and many others out there can tell you, it's hard to know what is reality and what is an embellished fantasy. I think it definitely depends on the way you approach it. The transition from being sweethearts in other countries to being friends in real life can be easy as long as you don't have complicated expectations. Lis Dawson wrote: "Hopefully it's a passing craze... then again if I do it for long enough maybe moping and grumbling will be seen as cool and everyone will want to be like me..." Grumble, grumble... pretty boys make graves :( I like being like Liz, this feels pretty cool! VIOLENCE********************************************** Nafees wrote: "i broke somebody's nose today." I can't imagine that many of us reading this post could say that in their lifetime! Nafees seems like such a tough guy! Even though it was an accident! Rener wrote: "guy fawkes night is probably great fun, until someone aims a firework the wrong way and burns a hole in your forehead/arse/jumper. and i should know." i am scared of fireworks on the 4th of July here in the States. it makes me nervous, it upsets the cats, I'm always afraid someone's going to set my roof on fire, and my neighbor must go to mexico and get a stockpile of fireworks because he will set them off for months after!! I think he's making up for lost time, you can't set off fireworks in prison. eek! Vodkabird wrote of roommate horror stories: "Life was fine for 6 months aside from a nightly repertoire of arias from the Italian across the road, until I had a run-in with a flatmate's fist." Oh man, I am hoping to avoid a run in with a housemate's fist right now. How long is too long to wait before I kick out my irresponsible brother and his new wife and 2 dogs? Rachie's patience is wearing thin, I tell you! Nafees wrote: "why are you late nafees?"...."oh you know...fell out of the door...the usual". You are lucky you didn't accidentally break your OWN nose! Astrid wrote: "Because the anti-mobbing organisation friends are having an all-day training for us! YAY!" What? Anti-mobbing organization? Is the Godfather running rampant in Swedish high schools, or what? I could just picture it. You pink cheeked darlings with your italian leather shoes, black overcoats and machine guns. It's a good thing you're getting trained to fight these thugs, Astrid! Idleberry is quitting the cigarette smoking (at least I think you meant cigarettes!) How is that going? Martin Conneely narrowly avoided getting shot at when describing this musician who sat on a stool that said "Fat Arse" : "She seemed to fit what was written on the stool. Between the strobe lighting and my increasing blindness, I couldn't be sure, but could it have been our own Isobel?" But like he said. Strobe light. Blindness. Dry your eyes and put your fists down Caleb Ben! And isn't that vomiting ballerina Nina Haagen that Honey used to speak of? MUSIC************************************************* Piddlemonkey the Rachel Griddlemonkey wrote: cdnow.com are taking advance orders on 'Storytelling' and have it slated for a 2001 release. how cool is that?" That's really very cool! I was poking around for more info on this, and it looks like the UK release of the movie is set for November 30th, 2001, and the US release is January 25th, 2002! Grainne wrote: "dec 21st belfast, i think it was the mandela hall, supporting belle and sebastian at an nspcc toys for christmas gig." Oh how I wish I were in Belfast for this!!! Whoever attends should tell us all full details, most definitely! Arik wrote: "i've fallen in love with XTRMNTR by primal scream" This album is grate in my opinion, my sister is crazy about Primal Scream and she has influenced me to like them, too! Psi wrote: "Well, now that I've heard Griff Rhys and co., I have to say that I was entertained the whole time." Super Furry Animals RAQUE live!!! That's what really won me over about them, was seeing them perform live. Jimmy Gilmer wrote about The Strokes: "Put a bit of Velvet Underground, Television, and the Stooges in a blender, and viola!" I also thought that the Strokes sound like Elvis Costello meets The Clash. Peter Miller speculated about what cover songs b&s might have played in Japan and said "sod Elfast" which I found amusing! He also wrote: "I think it's good that the new PINK FLOYD compilation finishes with BIKE,too." I like early Pink Floyd stuff a lot. Also Syd Barrett's solo stuff is amusing, like "Baby Lemonade" and "Rats"... Octopus is a grate album. CFBobcat wrote: "I never post, but I just had a question for you guys. Is the new ep supposed to be out.......cuz I got it on 12"." That is very lucky, I think!!! If I were you, I would ALWAYS shop there! Stine wrote: "oh my gooses. i never realised it was possible to morph the voices of axl rose and billy squire till i heard white stripes." OK, first, you had me at "oh my gooses" and then you really cracked me up with your description! Sheesh! I haven't heard the White Stripes yet, and now I really want to! Piddlemonkey the Rachel Griddlemonkey wrote of going to an unoffical IWUTU release party at strangeways in leeds and he described himself as: "i was the boy with the pale blue flares on and a bit of a 'fro." It must have been a good time if you were letting your hair down, eh, Pid? ;) fabio snoozer wrote of the B&S Rio gig and its television debut, with only 4 sogs being aired. He suggested that we vote that they replay the B&S performance on a voting site and said this: "I'm pretty sure they're going to show them, because THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID. A lot of people have complained about it." For shame! I hope that they play the gig in its entirety, and I hope that somehow mysetriously a copy of this gig ends up in my hot little hands! hmmm... DANCE FEVER******************************************* Cunning Andre wrote: "Well, what makes that so startling is that her and Ben did not just _sing_ MWDAO...They also did _actions_ to it." I CRIED when I read this, because it was so clever and funny! And then he posted the first chapter of the book that he's writing and it was very good. If you haven't read it, you should. It's charming, indeed! he didn't use cheese buns or cheese scones, he used his cunning mind, yeah! Paisley wrote:"It would be pretty cool to be written up for dancing on the job. Anyway, the customers who did see me seemed to enjoy my kinetic interpretations." Heck yeah! We have impromptu dance parties in my office at work all the time. Everyone in other departments know that if they need to work off their aggressions, they can come down to the art department any time and RAQUE out! it makes work more fun, I think. ARTISTIC OBSERVATIONS********************************* Kirsten Kenyon wrote: "tonight it seemed that the sun, instead of sinking slowly in the west, was rudely snuffed out by a damp towel. the fog was heavy and smelled like a cold car on a winter morning." KIRSTEN MARIE KENYON!!! You're amazing. Your words are as beautiful as you are! How grate is that description!? Nafees wrote that he saw Jarvis Cocker and that he wasn't very tall! I do remember the first time meeting him in 1994 when he was particularly skinny and I thoght the same thing. Man, he's skinny, that must be what gives him the illusion of being so tall! Robster wrote: "I reckon we could be in for one of those pretty pink-skied, snow-dusted winters like you got when you were a kid. You know - the magical ones that make everything like Narnia. But more cold." I want a winter like Narnia... but we don't have real seasons here. :( I think I need to read 'The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe' again instead and just pretend. Stine wrote: "didnt pollyanna harvest wheat or something? i dunno." Pollyanna! She was always glad. Played the "glad game", she could find the silver lining in any situation. I think I should try doing that more often! Sean wrote about his dreamcoat: "I was quite pleased to find that such a garmet existed a couple of weeks ago at Nordstrom's, and I plan on pawning one of my old guitars that I don't really play anymore to get it." Oh man, Sean! Either Elise has brainwashed you or you have really found your match! you're pawning a guitar to by a dream coat?!! Damn! I want to be in the wedding, seriously! Rachel Sunnyside Up wrote about bringing home Belle the wee dog when she was not the grown up dog yet: "Miss Sunnyside-Up sighed, things would never be the same again. Miss Sunnyside-Up smiled, things would never be the same again." I could have cried, that story was so cute! I'm glad that you have such a cute pup, Rach! Pinefox wrote: "I was cheered to see Edna Welthorpe back in the mists of space, a while back, talking about the way that the pinefox's endless repetitions are a mirror image of Lloyd Cole's." Alright PF, unless Joe Orton is not dead, I want to know how Edna Welthorpe is commenting!!! Jimmy Gilmer wrote about Ken Kesey's death: "For all their flaws, the heroes of the 60's believed in a better world, and they believed in a greater freedom, and it's a shame the world just passed on by that dream." I think that you're right in a lot of respects about the "hippies" being seen as lowlifes by the majority these days. It's odd for me to see my parents, who are hippies, who are liberals, get very patriotic now that there is a war happening. I guess i always thought of them as the draft card and bra burners and not as political revolutionaries. I mean, I knew it, but I hadn't actually witnessed it before. Rebecka from Sweden wrote: "I'm kinda proud of our snowy winters and happy faces:)" I think that is adorable and very cool. It think it is good to be proud of what you are. I hope that Rach O.J. can assimilate once she moves there. I think maybe you just had a bad experience, Rach. Genevieve wrote: "Christmastime shows and Belle and Sebastian just seem so fitting." I have a dream that B&S would play for us Sinister kids for Christmas, and it would be such a lovely time!! In a post with one of my most favorite subject lines "Fold your hands child, you walk like Karl Marx" Timothy Meskers wrote: "Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but I noticed an intriguing similarity between FYHCYWLAP and Marx & Engels. And that similarity is Saturday meals. "Saturday meals?" You say. "Yes," I reply. "Saturday meals." I like saturday meals. I had about 6 of them this saturday! I can't wait to hear the IWUTU ep. In fact, the anticipation is probably to blame for eating so much! (yeah...) I CAN'T IMAGINE THE WORLD WITHOUT ME!***************** I once wrote about how I associate the B&S song "Beautiful" to my experience taking the anti-depressant medication called Zoloft. I took it for 3 years. I just switched to a different drug called Celexa and it has made a BIG DIFFERENCE. I feel actual *feelings* again, and although I went through a very trying discussion with a certain someone I am very close to, I still felt happy to feel angry, to feel sad, to feel empathy, happiness and exhilaration. And I didn't lose it. I can feel and still behave myself. I'd have to say that this boy has become my best friend in the entire world (he knows who he is!) And I am grateful to Elise who reccommended the drug switch and for being there for me. Elise is a beautiful sweet girl, and actually, she first wrote to me after I posted about the anti-depressant problems I was having, so I guess I really did get *some* benefit from the Zoloft! I think it was Timothy Meskers who wrote: "We should pay that girl that does the big summaries. That's a lot of work." That is sweet! I guess I was a born editor or something. This sort of thing just comes naturally. An CareBear wrote: "That Rachel fruitloop keeps impressing me. Those poor fingers must be working themselves weary. I hope you don't feel you have to write summarys cause it's expected. You make good impression anyway. All your posts are good!..I've seen her write it all down cause of all the things she sees.." I will keep doing this until I don't feel like doing it anymore. It reminds me of making a fanzine. I suppose the summary posts are my little issues dedicated to Sinister! I am your biggest fan and I am jealous that the list has been going out with Ian, according to most recent posts! ;) Lindsey Lou wrote: "i'm taking a moment to round out this way less that fabulous post to send props to all the happy people in sinister and #sinister. to fruityloop rachel for always mentioning me." Lindsey, you're a doll, of course I'm gonna mention you when you always entertain me! THE SIMPSONS ROCKS THE WORLD!************************** Nafees wrote about a bus driver who looks like otto the bus driver from The Simpsons! And he also wrote about our President Bush using the phrase "Kodak Moment" which doesn't phase me now. In a recent speech shortly after the terrorist attacks on September 11th, he asked all the children to mail in a dollar like he was Homer Simpson's telemarketing machine as "Happy Dude" Chris Leonard wrote of a misheard lyric to *I love my car*: "She looked shocked, said "that's really rude" and started giggling. I bet he has leather gloves." It reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons when Millhouse's dad, Kirk Van Houten, records a demo. The track is called "Can I Borrow a Feeling", in which he sings "hurtin' hearts need some healing, take my hand with your glove of love" HA! (er, I'm probably the only one laughing!) LATER DUDES******************************************* Farewell to DV for the time being and i hope you have a lovely trip! Also farewell to Elena who is off to seek her fortune in France at her grate new job! Happy Birthday to Elena coming up next week! !VIVA RACHELS!**************************************** Amy Longcore AKA Rachel Applejacks wrote: "Tonight, once I'm home from work, I plan to peruse my vinyl For the perfect songs for my Rachel's mix. Awwww Yeah...Fuck Chu if you don't think I'll blow his mind. Tee hee." Don't mind if I do! So, where is our !VIVA RACHELS! mix these days, anyway? LINKED UP*********************************************** Big Stu wrote: "if anyone is interested, or just plain bored, you can find out about the other interest in my life by going to www.nottingham.freewebspace.com; which is the website of my korfball club. There's also lots of bad photos of me on there, but I'm not telling you where." You're one of the ones in the skimpy bikinis, aren't you! Yep, I see this Korfball phenominon, and I still think ALF would play it... Mark Hester (not to be confused with a monitor lizard) posted a link to an ALF website! hee! Thanks for indulging me! Astrid posted a link to a lovely picture of herself and of a sunset! David Moore and Genevieve posted a link to a french website with B&S pictures! Robster wrote: "First person to correctly identify the source of the subject line will win... um something... oh I don't know.. a signed photo of me. I'll expect the entries to flood in then." Did Lucy Brown win? I don't have a clue, but I'll guess that it was Sly & The Family Stone. Do I win an autographed picture for participating? PICK ME UP!******************************************* Lisa "Rachel Ranchero" wrote in response to Jim's query for the worst pick up lines you've ever heard: "She was imagining the woman who'd refuse the hamburger, yet slam on the brakes to accept the banana split offering." that would be me! I'd be saying "whoa, did you say ice cream? hey, you, get out of my dreams and into my car!" Stacey Dahling wrote about a boy meowing at her once and: "I GOT A TOAST MAKER today! finally! and it's shiny!" Two unrelated things but new toast makers have been known to make me meow. I saw a Hello Kitty toaster yesterday. It toasts all around the bread, except in the middle it leaves it light, in the design of a Hello Kitty face!!! Grrrrrate! I want that! COME TOGETHER***************************************** Jimmy Gilmer wrote: "I'd much rather meet you all over a Red Bull and Vodka and chat about useless crap and talk shit until the early morning hours in afterhours resturants, that's where I'm in my element." I have the feeling we will meet up in person someday Jim, amd that's a promise, not a threat! (your little dog, too, is safe!) Chris Pez wrote a challenge for a road trip: "Route Summary Origination: Belle, West Virginia [38.14N 81.32W] Destination: Sebastian, Florida [27.50N 80.29W] Route Distance: 839 miles Route Driving Time: 12:55" I would take this trip if I lived closer! That sounds like grate fun! Road trips are so much fun. endless fun, really, when you consider how vast the highways are in the US. Jimmy Gilmer wrote: "Come to Chicago December 1st and feel the power of PUNK ROCK!" I will be there in spirit, of course! I hope that you all have fun! Ben Apps wrote of the London picnic of this weekend: "I also have a cunning plot up my sleeve to kidnap Kenneth P Y Chu that evening (shhh! keepit quiet), and only release him if everyone returns to Primrose Hill the next day for FITBA!!!!" I heard from Ben this morning, where he apparently was the filling of a Dancin'Hatchback and Chu sandwich in the internet cafe! Sounds dreamy to me! Who won the football match then? What about the darts match!? Ola AKA Rachola Cinnamon wrote of a nice outing with fellow sort-of listee Kamil, and said: "now we only need maja to comeover, and the polish sinister club will be complete :)" The thought of that is really cute! You all should get together! I'm not just saying that it's cute because a quarter of my ancestors are from your fair country, either! ;) Elise Spry wrote of adventures with Kirsten Kenyon: "We have decided to become lesbian lovers (maybe hang out again sometime, provided Elise never talks about the purple vibrator again), but we'll always have love in our hearts (and beds) for Ken Chu." I think that Kirsten would be interested to know that I have thought of a name for your toy... the Purple Pie Man! and I second that emotion about Ken. He's like jello. There's always room for jello! LLEW'S CLLEWS***************************************** Laura Llew wrote: "[Mother produces two powder puffs which she wraps in handkerchiefs and stuffs in Laura's bosom.] Laura: Mother, what are you doing? Mother: They call them gay deceivers! Laura: I won't wear them! Mother: You will! Laura: Why should I? Mother: Because, to be painfully honest, your chest is flat." This was one of my favorite parts of the post, because I pictured Laura with ringlets with her mom helping her get ready for her gentleman caller, and how funny it is to call breasts "gay decievers!" Llew also dedicated a Yeats poem to *me* ohhh you lovely thing! You're like hot chocolate, heavy on the panache! I also just want to thank LL for uncovering Jimmy G's secret about making a swell record in the 1950's... Jack from Will & Grace, HA! Try Ricky Nelson! ;) Laura Llew wrote: "now it's time to meet all of Laura Llew's needs which have been severely lacking since 1977" and set a deadline for her mixtape competition for the end of this year. Miss Llew is also taking up the reins on the Christmas Present exchange and giving Joan of Dark a break this year. I will be contacting Miss Llew for both, you should, too! LOS ANGELES B&S DETENTION OF NOVEMBER 9TH************* Michael Vance wrote: "What Rachel fails to mention is that we were actually shooting a commercial for exciting new "Dicital" phone technology, each of us realizing in turn as the Legal Man ring tone was transfered that tomorrow would be a better place thanks to "Dicital"." DAMN STRAIGHT! DISITAL TECHNOLOGY IN DA HOUSE, BOOOYYEEE! See, my phone, well... it has a phony, (ha! get it! phony!) meaning imitation, Hello Kitty cover that I bought in China Town and the screen cover says "disital" I quite like it because it's ridiculous and pink. Hey, y'all, I have to say that our meetup in LA was so grate! Rachel CF and Benny, Katie, Ernie, Jose, Michael and my darling Ryan, thanks for being there! It really was a wonderful evening! You all made me very happy! FAVORITE QUOTES*************************************** "We are all worms, but I do believe I am a glow worm."--Stine "It was like watching a middle-aged pigeon strangling a piano."--Vodkabird "Why can't I live like I do in my day dreams?"--Idleberry "If I carry on like this people would think I'm actaully on drugs, so I won't."--Kenneth PY Chu ****************************************************** Well, here we are. It's the end of my post! I know I'm ridiculous sometimes, but I like it. I hope you enjoyed all of these things that sparked my interest, and I hope too much time hasn't passed for you all to care. Since we have that silly holiday coming up on Thursday, I hope to be posting again in the very near future, so look out for me! I'm comin' to your inbox to help you party down like Grand Funk Railroad! !VIVA RACHELS! Kisses and hugs to Ben, Ryan, Elise and miss Laura Llew, who I really bonded with in #sinister last week. Lots of love to you all! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 19:28:45 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:28:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i didn't know if it was a yellow lemon* Message-ID: <003101c17130$96241300$7e59073e@aqlzosqt> well, this cock won't suck itself. that was a 'worst line', as shared with me by my friend cat. she was visiting this weekend in a blur of cocktails and reminiscences about the boys we snogged at university. and no, the above slice of charm didn't come from any of them, luckily. i do have some taste. (although cat reminded me of some episodes which made me wonder...) although the weekend was great, the few days before it were awful, as i succumbed to a violent stomach bug. i felt a bit like sigourney weaver et al in alien, as if a big toxic wormy thing was struggling to force its way out of my helpless body. but i survived. and getting an email from stuart murdoch about buses and trains (i really did!) gave me a nice warm feeling which definitely helped :) someone has stolen my bike. i'm sort of happy, because i never rode it and would feel guilty every time i came home to see it flopped against the drainpipe, gently rusting. perhaps it will now be spruced up and taken out along the perilous brighton streets again. but it's always a bit shocking to have your property stolen, isn't it? and my fantasy of becoming fit and trim gets even further away. this morning i decided i would take up squash. it's amazing how many things i can positively decide in a day and never ever do. as many as six before breakfast. i can't string any more sentences together. it's monday morning. luv archel xxx *from now on i'm going to find my subject lines by opening one of the books nearest to me at random. only in this way will i ever generate sufficiently eye-catching surrealism, i think. *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 19 11:35:27 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:35:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BANGING AROUND! Message-ID: <3BF8EE7F.D0C9EF11@camb.linst.ac.uk> greetings people, So, how many of you stayed indoors on saturday? you lazy scamps; only kidding. i went to the primrose hill picnic and it was a bit worrying at first. Fair enough, i was half an hour early, but no one turned up for ages, it was just me and a very cold james (danson hatcher). We decided you were all playing a trick on us and expected you all to jump out from behind the trees. but you didn't. It all worked out in the end and i spent roughly 7ish hours drinking in that same pub, but it was well worth it. I met James,Ben, mr Brennan, Will Salt, who i imaginged to look like a baggy skater for some reason??,Mark C, Ken, three lovely lasses whos names escape me and Joe V, who was very sweet and asked me to buy his drinks for him, i was flattered by this and felt all grown up, it only feels like yesterday that i too had lots of trouble buying booze in pubs. Mark C asked me what my least favourtie B&S song was and when i said "this is just a modern rock song" i thought i was going to get attacked, they all shouted"nnnoooo, hannnah!!!!!!!!" and i thought My Sinister Days Are Over (notice the little B&S injoke there, hm), i suppose "beyond the sunrise" isnt that good but the b-sides off of TIJAMRS are just so wonderful i have to skip the first track all the time, oh it's a crime and i'm sorry. It was good fun catching up on all the gossip, there seems to be a bit more sinister romance going on with some of you lot ;), at this rate we will all end up related to each other in some way and all our children will be inbred. Im off to get some loverly antibiotics coz ive got Broncitis (prolly spelt wrong) so its no booze for me for a week, snif. keep smiling love hannahxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 12:51:27 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:51:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Parks and Eagles Message-ID: Ever since the Industrial revolution, the peoples' lifestyles have taken a radical turn. Some would say for the better, and some would say worse. The world was blessed with an explosion of machines and tools that eases our lives to such an extent that a whole range of manual work are no longer a necessity. It is now possible to work, shop, live, and even engage into romance (for some) without leaving the comfort of your own home. However, what most people hadn't realised until now is that the wonderful bliss that is modern technology is actually a double edged sword - people have become lazy, the non-necessity of the outdoors manifested into the necessity of the indoors, and our chairs now form parts of our lower body (check out the size of my chair baby). This is not a healthy lifestyle.. something needs to be done. == Ken's guide to healthy lifestyle == Here are a few pointers towards a healthier lifestyle than being a pesty faced vegan geek. 1. Plenty of outdoors activity - It is important to be outdoors every now and then in order to respire in fresh outdoor air. Suggested location: top of the primrose hill in Camden, London where the air is the cleanest. Suggested duration: a maximum of 60 minutes per 8 hours of pub time. 2. Plenty of fluid - 80% of the human body is made of water, therefore fluids are important. Suggestions: Red Bull, Lager, Bitter, Red Bull, Ale, vodka, Red Bull, gin, Red Bull, Martini, Barcadi, Red Bull, whisky, Red Bull, Red Bull. Some clever sinister people invented ingenious ways of sharing various other types of fluids but those are beyond the scope of this lecture. 3. Plenty of exercise - Proper exercise is probably the most vital for good health. It is important that all parts of the body are exercised. Exercise Suggestions for various parts of the body... Legs: 2-a-side football on 10 square metre pitch.. or the lobby of an Underground station. Arms: A choice of Darts throwing (maximum 3 throws per hour), or weight lifting (recommended weight - one pint of lager). Lips: Kissing boys. Full body: Balancing on Underground train, or whatever other full body exercises you can think of. 4. Healthy eating - energy must be replentished after the strenuous exercises, for example an epic 2 hour game of darts. Suggestions: Kebabs from "Greenwich Kebab House" whose expertise in kebab making won them accolades such as the prestigious "The best chips award" from the famous food critics of the Greenwich Christian Centre. 6. Avoid drugs - smoking twiglet crumbs seriously affects health, espeically mental health (e.g. your ability to count numbers) 7. Plenty of rest - After a whole weekend of psysical and mental fitness training the importance of rest is paramount. Suggestion: Sleep for 4 hours before going to work - avoid doing work at office by typing a sinister picnic report disguised as tips for healthy living. 8. Listen to Belle & Sebastian That's all for now. Until next time take care of yourself, and each other. Weekends and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Nov 19 13:12:53 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:12:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Oh! Get me away from here - Rob's singing. Message-ID: <20011119131253.85595.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Hello sinister The picnic journey began well. Trains are much better than buses as has been previously pointed out. The radio in the station buffet played T-Rex's 'Jeepster'. I took this as an omen. I've no idea why. A few brave people like HannahB, James, James, Will and 2 Rachels did indeed make the climb to the top of Primrose Hill. We enjoyed the view for about 8 seconds before working out that pubs are better than hills in November. The pub was indeed grate cos it sold beer. Ace! And you could pay by credit card. Bad. Lots of nice people turned up at this point like Lucy, Lixi, MarkC, Ken, Ben, Steve, Lyns & Pris. Drinking, gossiping and bitching was done with enthusiasm and commitment until some of us lightweights got hungry and departed to eat pizza. Despite the stomach lining, my memory gets fuzzy from this point on. I recall singing a B&S medley with Pris: She handled the high notes while my alcohol-rich voice explored notes that had yet to be discovered by man and could only be appreciated in a parallel universe where Bach's ideas about well-tempered scales never took off. Oh and Casarotto beat me at Mornington Crescent. I've yet to check the rules but I reckon he did an illegal line skip. Or that could've been me. Many thanks to Ben for letting me have a roof and a sofa for the night. Hope you found your bag, Ken. On the way home my train was delayed by a points failiure. Fuck trains. Fuck them with knives. Sorry to anyone I forgot to mention. Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 13:30:04 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:30:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wrong hand to be holding Message-ID: hello darlings! i made a total fool of myself today! oh, dear. i'm *so* embarassed! this is just too awful. ouch. i met my ex today. it hurt more than i ever thaught it would, but i'm fine. really, i am. it felt good seeing him, after all. but, ofcourse, as i said, it hurt. deep. so i'm sitting here in my room, listening to "all by myself". it must be one of the best lovesongs ever (except from belle&sebastian ofcourse)! i couldn't stand going back to school after the meeting with him. we were walking in this sweet park, and there was a caf� just there, so we thaugh we'd sit down and have some caf� au lait, cause it's dead cold outside. so i took a place in the line, so i could order my coffe, and he went to catch a table. and then he walks up to me, and stands behind me (i think!) i don't look at him, i'm just staring in front of me. then i decides to hold his hand, so i does. and i'm thinking about what would happen if i'd say "you know... i never stopped loving you...". suddenly he's standing in front of me, looking confused and says "what? oh, come on! i thaught you were over me by now!" then i understood that i actually said it out loud, and not just only in my thaughts. but i'm still holding his hand... err... or not. i'm actually holding some other guy's hand! as if i wasn't embarassed enough. anyway, i'm off to england in a while. again. and tomorrow it's a consert in sweden that i'm going to! it's this nice swedish asrtist singing in swedish. i think it's called "gota lejon"... yes, that's where he's going to paly. ooh. i'm really exited! i got into rach fruitloop's post again! ooh ooh ooh. you'd better watch out, soon i might be writing just to get into the post. hee hee. no, but seriously, it's nice seeing your name in other people's posts. it makes me feel nice. anyway, rachels; how's the mixed-tape going? who's got it right now? !viva rachels! yes. ofcourse. with all my love (and lots of owls), rachel orange juice ps. i've got harry potter-fever! hee hee. i'm dead obsessed. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 14:12:43 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:12:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: kiwi; smoking; aftermath of randomness; questions about boys that I would like answered please; stuff; minor b+scontent. Message-ID: <20011119141244.64101.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Hello.. Can you believe it? A whole digest without a single post from me within. I guess I must have been busy this morning. Hey, I was a lurker for a morning, how about that? I�m back doing my whole sneaky-sneaky thing at work right now. A bunch of stuff in no particular order: I�m really enjoying kiwi fruit at the moment. Did I tell you about my health kick? (*yawn*- a thousand sinisterians). I keep eating kiwi fruit. Its not as good as chocolate, but for comedy value, it�s the next best thing. I was asked if I had still given up smoking cigarettes by Rachel Fruitloop Well, in answer to your question, it�s a sort of yes. The only time I have been naughty and unable to resist the fiendish temptations of cigarettes was on Saturday, when I met up with someone from Sinister. Oh, and the Saturday before that as well, when I went to a gig. You must forgive me though, because my excuse is feeble, but you know, on both occasions, it was sort of eek, new people. I went to the gig on my own you see, and spoke to people. But in order to cope, I had to smoke. So I did. I think that�s fair isn�t it? Otherwise, I�ve been a good girl and resisted. Was shocked to discover that the original goody-two-shoes, my mum, actually used to smoke herself. Apparently only when she was out drinking, and it �didn�t count�. But I informed her it did. If you smoke cigarettes, you are a smoker. If you drink you are a drinker. If you swim you are a swimmer. If you run you are a runner. If you have sex you are a �. Argue with me as you please on this. Archel said she got an e mail from Stuart Murdoch about buses. Well poo to that, I got one from Astrid and she said cool stuff that made me smile and inspired me to pick up my guitar (and put it down again after fifteen minutes) then start work on writing stories, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, girly. ;-) Its cool what the effect of a stranger can have on you. Send someone off this list a random e mail. Go on. Just to them, tell them something. I sat up late last night, writing in my notebook. I wrote about the labels in the cloakroom when I was little at school, where the teacher wrote your name on a piece of card and there was a picture next to it. I wrote about having wet tights. I wrote about dancing with the boys nobody ever wanted to dance with for ceilidh dancing at school, a few weeks before the Christmas party. I wrote about the way their sleeves were always too long on their jumpers, and you found your own hand being covered by them. The way those boys always looked at the floor, and the way they never held you in their arms like they were supposed to, the way it was as if you were disgusting or dirty or something. (maybe that was just me.). But probably more likely because they were afraid- afraid of their friends teasing them and saying �you�re in love with idleberry! Wooo!�. Or afraid of their friends going one step further and telling that they did like me. And afraid of rejection added to their public humiliation, even if they weren�t interested in me, there would be nothing worse than someone you don�t want not wanting you either. Or maybe I just smelled funny. I haven�t quite decided. If anyone can suggest why boys didn�t want to hold me properly during ceilidh dancing when I was a teenager, I�d love to know. Advice: hold a lady like you hold yourself. I probably seem too keen for you right now. I�ve been posting too much recently. I sort of need to. It helps me pass the day, and I have all these thoughts aching to be released. Its odd, but I always have the best ideas when I�m too busy to think about them. I always find inspiration when I don�t have time for it. When I�m at home, and bored, and doing nothing much in particular, I don�t get inspiration, or ideas or thoughts to share. Any more takers for going out this weekend to the cinema? I heard that Camera Obscura are playing on the 24th at the Tron in Glasgow as well. I�ve heard praise about them from all sorts of people, and think I better go and listen and go to the cinema afterwards. Otherwise it will be like so many other things- I miss out on being able to join in the conversations because I don�t know what the topic is about. And even if the conversation isn�t that exciting for the participants, if you�re on the outside and listening in, it seems more enthralling. Topics of conversation I�ve never been able to participate in: Ted Hughes; Keats; Harry Potter novels; Tiswas; Swap Shop; Ataris; Joni Mitchell; Hard House; the difference between speed garage and garage; Ali G when he was still on the 11 o�clock show (I was in Norway then); Belle and Sebastian winning the Brit Awards (I was in Norway then, too); Bowlie (I was in Norway.. you get the picture); the North Berwick picnic; anything with French stuff or french words dropped in for effect; and a whole load of other stuff too. Of course, there�s a whole load of stuff I can�t be bothered to discuss, because I find it so boring. Heres a thought. I was going to ask �if you could ask anyone in the world, one question..� but decided to narrow it down to Belle and Sebastian, in order to get a little bit of content involved in this here post. If you could ask a member of Belle and Sebastian any one question, what would it be? You can make up their answer for them, if you like. And on that note, I shall depart. :-) love, idles xxxxx ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Mon Nov 19 14:48:22 2001 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:48:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Planting Trees and Hedges In-Reply-To: <20011119141244.64101.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011119144822.95090.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Cher Sinister, it's amazing how bored one can get whilst plumbing through DODDS PARLIAMENTARY COMPANION. Now, if I were researching Members of the House of Lords that would be a THRILL and a HARF cos they list all the clubs they are members of EG BEEFSTEAK or GARRICKS and are funny - however the House of Commons chapsXoRs are all DULL and WORTHY. Oh, yet another one likes "reading". Lots of them like "jazz", whotevah that could be. Peter Mandelson likes "swimming" but Peter Temple-Morris (Leonminister - where the FLUMPS is that eh?) is more my kind of chap, liking as he does, WINE and FOOD num tasty eh? Speaking of which, I have developed an opinion about wine. Okay, one wine. Piat D'Or is GRIM. All wine which isn't Piat D'Or however is FINE! > Its cool what the effect of a stranger can have on > you. Send someone off this list a random e mail. Go > on. Just to them, tell them something. Most of you lot are STRANGERS IN THE NIIIIIGHT (hem hem) to me, so I'd like to tell you that I bought a SOSAGE roll from Budgens B2 Express in Shepherds Bush at 2am on Saturday night after failing to get CHICKEN GRAVY from KFC. I had seen that rock band Life Without Buildings and I thort they were RUBBIDGE. They sounded nothing like Enola Gay by Orchestral Manouvres in the Dark so blurrgh and 10000 boos to them. > Any more takers for going out this weekend to the > cinema? Oh yes, I'd like to see GHOSTWORLD myself. HEY HEY! I found an MP who likes sheep dog trials! BUT STILL they do not beat the Noble Lord who listed CRAVATOLOGY as his interest. It's going on my CV, pop pickers! > Topics of conversation I’ve never been able to > participate in: > Ted Hughes; Ponce > Keats; Ponce (GET IN THE BACK OF THE URN!) > Harry Potter novels; Gr8! > Tiswas; Swap Shop; Good point, leave that to the old FOAX > Ataris; NOW WE GET TO THE GIST OF THINGS. I went to an exhibition at the Institute of Contemporary Arse (the bar is under new management and they seem to have more than HALVED their cocktail list, shame shame wherefore art the SINGAPORE SLING?) where there was a room full of COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT including Amiga version of PANG (it is urgent and key that I get this), Spectrum version of JETPAC and the Intellivision. I enjoyed PONG on the Atari immensely yet I shunned Ataris attempt at new and modern technology IE the Jaguar. A pox on it I say. All you need to know about Ataris really is that Pong is really rather good and I need to get one. Where can one buy these items? > difference between speed garage and garage; UK Garage = GUD, speed garage = DUD. > If you could ask a member of Belle and Sebastian any > one question, what would it be? What conditioner does Isobel Campbell use on that wuvvly hem hem hair of hers? Also, why do the lyrics to "Marx and Engels" not just say MARX AND ENGELS MARX AND ENGELS, surely communism = ROCK AND ROLL FUN and they could wear all red outfits and get some sponsorship from the White Stripes/MALBORO FAGS. > You can make up their answer for them, if you like. Okay, "special stuff", "we have lorst the critical plot". I would prefer their answers though. Actually they'd probably be boring. Perhaps I'd ask them their favourite way to make hot chocolate also favourite make of chocolate bar. I haf become a fan of Green and Blacks GOLD chocolate despite it being mouldy and ORGANIC I think even VEGAN curses. Heh, new superhero alter: THE EVEN VEGAN. > And on that note, I shall depart. Me too. I'm really rather bored, you know. Sarah (Pratts, Groucho). ===== Write to Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/group/starsdeluxe "luxe, calme, et volupte" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Nov 19 16:20:31 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:20:31 Subject: Sinister: The Swedish Anti-Mobbing Team! Message-ID: <192515223@spray.se> Hey all of you! Well, reading Rachel Fruitloop´s post, I must say that I have to explain the anti-mobbing thing a bit more :) It´s an anti-bullying-group, we´re supposed to make sure no one gets picked on or are getting teased by the other kiddo´s. and that no one walks alone during the lunches feeling like they want to kill themselves. we are there to try to make the school a better place. it works marvellous. well, actually, it don´t, but i wish it would! also, the pictures she mentiones can be found at: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/astridschool.html (schoolfoto) and the sunsets are at: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/astrid/aroomwithaview.html that´s all for now. today we are going to have our friend emelie film us in the rehearsal room down in the beasement at the yourh club. you can add a really cool effect called low light that makes it all look dizzy, blurry, and a bit like it´s all a dream. LOVELY! just hope that we´ll play our songs right :) we´re recording a cd for our own money this winter, it´ll probably be in 2002, and it will be fantastic. there are some talking about who´s going to sing. it might be me. eeeek! *excited-but-very-nervous-scream* stars and cuddles, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bethan_macleod at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 15:24:26 2001 From: bethan_macleod at xxx.com (bethan macleod) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:24:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: picnics, weekends and TEFL Message-ID: hiya Sinister peeps I'm so sorry I missed the Primrose Hill picnic. It sounds like you all had a lovely day. I'll be there next time. Defo. Any juicy gossip to report back on? Yeah, come on, there *must* be! I had such a miserably dull weekend. I'll spare you the tedious details. The worst part is the hollow feeling of disappointment i've got because something i've been looking forward to wasn't what it should have been. It has compounded my usual monday blues. I'm thinking of doing a Teaching English as a Foreign Language course and then escaping somewhere sunny. Or just far away. I'm in a bad mood and I don't want to drag you all down here with me so i'll stop now. bye, and thanks for listening :) beth _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Nov 19 17:14:51 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:14:51 Subject: Sinister: kiwi; smoking; aftermath of randomness; questions about boys that I would like answered please; stuff; minor b+scontent. Message-ID: <192542220@spray.se> >>If you could ask a member of Belle and Sebastian any one question, what would it be? Obvious one: I´d choose Stuart Murdoch. My question would be: Do you want to marry me? Of course he´d say yes, as soon as he´s found out how charming and funny I am, er. Riiiiight.. Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 17:45:49 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:45:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: kiwi; smoking; aftermath of randomness; questions about boys.. Message-ID: oh, oh. or maybe to isobel; how is it like kissing stuart? wizardkisses, rach >From: Astrid Wiezell >Reply-To: Astrid Wiezell >To: idleberry at yahoo.com, sinister at missprint.org >Subject: RE:Sinister: kiwi; smoking; aftermath of randomness; questions >about boys that I would like answered please; stuff; minor b+scontent. >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:14:51 > > >>If you could ask a member of Belle and Sebastian any >one question, what would it be? > >Obvious one: >I�d choose Stuart Murdoch. >My question would be: Do you want to marry me? > >Of course he�d say yes, as soon as he�s found out how charming and funny I >am, er. > >Riiiiight.. > >Astrid x > > >_________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ >H�r b�rjar Internet! >Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet p� http://www.spray.se > >Ny chatt p� Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anl�nt till >http://www.spray.se/ohoj > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 17:52:45 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:52:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The boy most likely and the girl most lovely Message-ID: Hello lovelies, I skived off uni *again* today,so instead of catching up on some work or maybe even trying to get some notes off the internet i decided to lie in bed reading a book all morning and then post to the lovely sinister,obviously or you wouldn't be reading this. Its winter now i think,there's no getting away from that. I love winter,it may not be my favourite season,i love autumn when its actually autumn rather than just strong winds and heavy rain. Maybe that's all its ever been and i just imagine the picturesque autumns in my head. I imagine lots of things but im sure there must have been at least one nice autumn like that. Anyway winter, yes i love winter and a lot of the time its real winter,like the lovely picturesque winter. But its not today,its just really really really cold and grey and horrible. With weather like this how can i ever motivate myself to start an essay on a subject i know nothing about and care even less still. I like to sit at my window with a mug of hot chocolate and stare out at the sky,sometimes it gives me inspiration,sometimes it just makes me realise how much beauty there is out there in the world and maybe ill jump in my car and go somewhere lovely just out of the blue. That's the best way to do things,just out of the blue,it makes them seem nicer,more exciting. I just seen a cat kill a bird earlier,i almost cried. It made me think about the wildness of nature and all,perhaps not in as cliched a manner as 'the wildness of nature' but that's the easiest way to describe it. Kittens are the loveliest wee things and then they become cats and they too are very beautiful and lovely,but they're vicious. They kill birds for no reason then they drag their body to their mummy and preen around it as if they've done something beautiful and lovely and should be petted and given kitty treats. That sometimes upsets me,it would be lovely to be able to train them to leave birds alone or to play with them but that's not their nature,they just want to kill them. It kind of got me thinking, i remember my friend was asking me what do i think would happen if there was a superior race to humans. They were nice and kind but just superior but sometimes they got mad and just killed one of us. I didn't think about it much though. It was too sci-fi-esque for me,then he started talking about giant spiders with eight eyes so, I stopped wondering. He was wondering why i stopped. Sometimes however i do wonder what would happen if one little thing in my life had changed,what if i had been born 10 miles from where i was, would i be a totally different person? I'd have a different environment and different friends and suchlike. Obviously i'd be a little different but i wonder would i be completely different? Would i have discovered B&S, sinister? Maybe i'd have became a ned,what a scary thought. This kind of scares me because it leaves so much to chance,if i was born 200 miles away my life could be infinitely worse or even better. Or maybe i'd be the same,maybe all this does have an influence but the MEness in me would always shine through and bring me here,to where i am now. I'd prefer to think that,i really would. On the same lines i also wonder what if i took over someone elses life? Would i just reconcile it with my own? Would they in effect just become me and then after a weeks time they just would be me sitting chatting on sinister or sitting in a country park at 3am or would i have to carry on with their life. Maybe id be Jim working 9to5 as a data analyst and then come home to dress up as a woman and go out clubbing. Maybe i could be Derek, i'd be at university and it would be the best time of my life, "oh man it wid be fine", just burds n bevvy and constant parties,but never let the uni work slip,oh god no,because work is the most important thing in his life. Completely destined to be an integral cog in some corporate executive network. Anyway. I managed to stay up for some forty hours recently, not the fifty odd managed by someone else but it still made me go temporarily crazy. Us Scottish boys eh :) not that its an achievement, but i didn't really have another option unless i wanted to get kicked out of uni,i kind of did, so i stayed up and revised like a good boy (chatted on sinister, read books,drank hot chocolate, anything except revise). Anyway after i got home from my test (it went okay) i didn't even go straight to bed,i faffed about for hours. however when i did go to bed i slept for some 14 hours and also had a very strange dream: I dreamt i had led some sort of communist revolution,i don't remember how i won but i did,i got into power which was fun but it was all screwed up and wrong. I had to banish all the intellectuals and artists because they were speaking against how the 'movement' had been destroyed,how it was no longer the same and i had corrupted it. Anyway the scary bit,apart from the fact i actually was dreaming this was that it was like a big corporate communist state. We didn't walk about in army gear,oh no! We walked about in suits and ties,we didn't have midnight meetings,we sat round tables made by ikea drinking coca-cola,i can actually remember the cans and they were perfect coca-cola cans. I would give big long speeches over television but there would still be the ad-breaks and of course all food and suchlike was rationed however the suppliers were of course McDonalds. Anyway that's just a wee aside,it made me laugh when i woke up,i can just imagine the next revolution. They'd show it on TV - "The Flargnanar Revolution" Fade to black. Big can of cola blazes onto screen "Sponsored by Coke", clothes and weaponry provided by nike. No longer the big questions of how can we survive as a communist state oh no. Should we get burger king or mcdonalds for the food? Reebok or Nike for clothes? Decisions.Decisions. I think maybe i've hurt people,unintentionally. Don't you just hate when that happens? All i've done is be myself yet maybe i've hurt someone,maybe more than one person. I wish i hadn't,i hope im wrong but im sorry. Friends,bah, who would have them ? he he Okay i'll go now Love and hugs and a touch of panache, Danny xxx I always dreamed i'd love you I never dreamed i'd lose you In my dreams i'm always strong P.S Thank God miss llew has returned from her months break, however enlightened miss Dorothy Parker is,she shouldn't give sagacious pearls of wisdom that keeps our llaura away :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whytey1982 at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 19:01:39 2001 From: whytey1982 at xxx.com (Alan Whyte) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:01:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The games you play make people say, you're either weird or lonely Message-ID: This post, whether good or bad, is dedicated to Ryan. By gum! Firstly, I hope everyone enjoyed the picnic and Will got home safely and you have all stuck to the recommended weekly intake of alcohol, and not exceeded it in a few hours in a park :) Hello again sinister. It's been a while and a lot of things have changed since my last post. In fact i can't even remember when my last post was. It feels like i've been on here forever, (not a bad thing!) though most of you will have no idea who i am (another sinister lurker i'm afraid) Saying that, i've been on #sinister quite a lot recently and everyone is really welcoming, so thanks :) I think i've made some new friends :) Now Playing: 'Falling from Grace' by the Gentle Waves. MOOD SWINGS, NOT SURE I CAN COPE I've become a bit of a rebel recently. I haven't shaved for three days now (and i may not tomorrow!), i've begun dressing entirely in brown, i'm meant to be at college today...eh I slept till seven o'clock on Sunday (yes, in the evening. Gasp!) Oh yes, and I also had vodka and Red Bull for breakfast yesterday :) I suppose i'd better add that i am not an alcoholic, and hopefully Mr Farrell can vouch for this. Please!?! Where to begin....the weekend was fun in parts, mostly bad though. On Friday i seen Ameli� with my two bestest friends in the whole world and i cried (but smiled mostly!). If you haven't seen it yet just go, right now, just drop everything and go and be enlightened and for a a couple of hours forget anything that's bad in your life, forget the pressures of work, just go and if you're not touched then you are a heartless swine. It is truly beautiful and moving and very French - C'est Magnifiqu�! :) I'm going again hopefully before they stop showing it. Lucy, please come with me! :) I wish my life was in the Ameli� narrative style. 5.47pm, alan begins his post. Looking out the window onto the mainstreet there are two cars racing. A bus driver becomes aggravated and beeps his horn. At this exact moment, in Galloway, a drop of rain lands on an old mans nose and a young girl eating candy floss giggles. I wonder how many people on sinister are having an or... erm an orange right now? hehe :) Now Playing: 'Able Hands' by Sodastream Before Amelie though we went shopping for our loved ones and got lots of lovely presents (no Lucy, i'm not telling you, you'll just have to wait :) I enjoy buying presents and it's good to have someone to buy them for, for a change. It makes me excited and nervous as to how they'll react to what i get them ("ooh an aubergine and a bible...how thoughtful") and i like to think of their faces when they open the shiny paper, even if i've never seen their faces before :0) I've been going on about hating Christmas recently, but a lovely wee christmas fairy came to me in a dream and told me that this year would be special, and i woke up in love and knew it was true. Now Playing: 'Opposite of Coffee' by the Lucksmiths I love this song! It's not their best, but it isn't far off. If you haven't heard it then it would be wise to download it (i think Mr Breams would agree!)...... Anyway, then we went to the 13th Note for Tequila slammers and managed to catch the last train home. Saturday was strange and quite spontaneous. David Howie appeared from relative obscurity with guitar in hand and we were transported to a park where we spent the night kicking leaves (which was fun!) and shouting at my friend Graham to stop playing his guitar so loudly (he was playing Smiths songs though, so maybe he should be excused for just being enthusiastic). We headed home about 2 and i stayed at Danny's. We went on #sinister for quite a while, then sat and talked till about 9am. This has turned into a diary hasn't it? That's bad, sorry. Now playing: 'Dream Brother' by Jeff Buckley "Jeff Buckley has about 238 octaves to his voice". Someone made that comment on Saturday. Bethan MacLeod just posted so i have that to look forward to. She is a master photographer and a fellow lover of aubergines if you didn't know. There's been a lot of name dropping in this post actually. I think i'm just happy to be finally getting to know some of you, one of you is particularly special to me and she loves Buckley too. Falling in love is brilliant. Falling out with friends is soul destroying. I never want it to happen again and i will change. I will be my old happy, cheery, agreeable and unargumentative self. I hope we can forget the last few weeks. I've been suffering from mood swings cause this is a really happy and exciting time for me, but it's also tearing me apart at the same time and i am very confused and my mind is cluttered and this is making me snap and say things i don't really mean and then because i'm quite stubborn i refuse to take them back or apologise. Well i am truly sorry. Let's not put each other through this again. We will never be lonely again. Now Playing: 'Saturday' by the Clientele Ryan will be pleased to know that i've started working on a new song today. I hope things work out for us this time, the first EP is in the pipeline. I spanked the monkey today, faster than ever before. 560 mph, seriously. I don't usually get above 300. Don't look at me like that, I'm not being crude, see for yourself: http://www.vectorlounge.com/04_amsterdam/jam/flamjam.html Now Playing: 'Vierge, Une Vrai Maman, Face au Miroir' by Sebastien Tellier I didn't really have much to say when i started but i remembered things during writing, so everything is probably all over the place, but nevermind. Anyone want to join me for tea and crumpets later? You're all more than welcome, i'll be on #sinister later with plenty for everyone :) That's all for now. See you in six months or so :) Alan oxo "I want a single bed, i want a simpler life. But i want you by my side, i'm so confused." ps: I wish to return the not so sinister love for my wee christmas fairy. I'm missing you already xxx PS2(not the games console): Ryan, my friend, everything will be Bryter Layter. If you haven't heard any of the songs i was listening to then please get them, they are all beautiful. If you don't like them, then feel free to hurl abuse in my direction. bye bye xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whytey1982 at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 19:01:00 2001 From: whytey1982 at xxx.com (Alan Whyte) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:01:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The games you play make people say, you're either weird or lonely Message-ID: This post, whether good or bad, is dedicated to Ryan. By gum! Firstly, I hope everyone enjoyed the picnic and Will got home safely and you have all stuck to the recommended weekly intake of alcohol, and not exceeded it in a few hours in a park :) Hello again sinister. It's been a while and a lot of things have changed since my last post. In fact i can't even remember when my last post was. It feels like i've been on here forever, (not a bad thing!) though most of you will have no idea who i am (another sinister lurker i'm afraid) Saying that, i've been on #sinister quite a lot recently and everyone is really welcoming, so thanks :) I think i've made some new friends :) Now Playing: 'Falling from Grace' by the Gentle Waves. MOOD SWINGS, NOT SURE I CAN COPE I've become a bit of a rebel recently. I haven't shaved for three days now (and i may not tomorrow!), i've begun dressing entirely in brown, i'm meant to be at college today...eh I slept till seven o'clock on Sunday (yes, in the evening. Gasp!) Oh yes, and I also had vodka and Red Bull for breakfast yesterday :) I suppose i'd better add that i am not an alcoholic, and hopefully Mr Farrell can vouch for this. Please!?! Where to begin....the weekend was fun in parts, mostly bad though. On Friday i seen Ameli� with my two bestest friends in the whole world and i cried (but smiled mostly!). If you haven't seen it yet just go, right now, just drop everything and go and be enlightened and for a a couple of hours forget anything that's bad in your life, forget the pressures of work, just go and if you're not touched then you are a heartless swine. It is truly beautiful and moving and very French - C'est Magnifiqu�! :) I'm going again hopefully before they stop showing it. Lucy, please come with me! :) I wish my life was in the Ameli� narrative style. 5.47pm, alan begins his post. Looking out the window onto the mainstreet there are two cars racing. A bus driver becomes aggravated and beeps his horn. At this exact moment, in Galloway, a drop of rain lands on an old mans nose and a young girl eating candy floss giggles. I wonder how many people on sinister are having an or... erm an orange right now? hehe :) Now Playing: 'Able Hands' by Sodastream Before Amelie though we went shopping for our loved ones and got lots of lovely presents (no Lucy, i'm not telling you, you'll just have to wait :) I enjoy buying presents and it's good to have someone to buy them for, for a change. It makes me excited and nervous as to how they'll react to what i get them ("ooh an aubergine and a bible...how thoughtful") and i like to think of their faces when they open the shiny paper, even if i've never seen their faces before :0) I've been going on about hating Christmas recently, but a lovely wee christmas fairy came to me in a dream and told me that this year would be special, and i woke up in love and knew it was true. Now Playing: 'Opposite of Coffee' by the Lucksmiths I love this song! It's not their best, but it isn't far off. If you haven't heard it then it would be wise to download it (i think Mr Breams would agree!)...... Anyway, then we went to the 13th Note for Tequila slammers and managed to catch the last train home. Saturday was strange and quite spontaneous. David Howie appeared from relative obscurity with guitar in hand and we were transported to a park where we spent the night kicking leaves (which was fun!) and shouting at my friend Graham to stop playing his guitar so loudly (he was playing Smiths songs though, so maybe he should be excused for just being enthusiastic). We headed home about 2 and i stayed at Danny's. We went on #sinister for quite a while, then sat and talked till about 9am. This has turned into a diary hasn't it? That's bad, sorry. Now playing: 'Dream Brother' by Jeff Buckley "Jeff Buckley has about 238 octaves to his voice". Someone made that comment on Saturday. Bethan MacLeod just posted so i have that to look forward to. She is a master photographer and a fellow lover of aubergines if you didn't know. There's been a lot of name dropping in this post actually. I think i'm just happy to be finally getting to know some of you, one of you is particularly special to me and she loves Buckley too. Falling in love is brilliant. Falling out with friends is soul destroying. I never want it to happen again and i will change. I will be my old happy, cheery, agreeable and unargumentative self. I hope we can forget the last few weeks. I've been suffering from mood swings cause this is a really happy and exciting time for me, but it's also tearing me apart at the same time and i am very confused and my mind is cluttered and this is making me snap and say things i don't really mean and then because i'm quite stubborn i refuse to take them back or apologise. Well i am truly sorry. Let's not put each other through this again. We will never be lonely again. Now Playing: 'Saturday' by the Clientele Ryan will be pleased to know that i've started working on a new song today. I hope things work out for us this time, the first EP is in the pipeline. I spanked the monkey today, faster than ever before. 560 mph, seriously. I don't usually get above 300. Don't look at me like that, I'm not being crude, see for yourself: http://www.vectorlounge.com/04_amsterdam/jam/flamjam.html Now Playing: 'Vierge, Une Vrai Maman, Face au Miroir' by Sebastien Tellier I didn't really have much to say when i started but i remembered things during writing, so everything is probably all over the place, but nevermind. Anyone want to join me for tea and crumpets later? You're all more than welcome, i'll be on #sinister later with plenty for everyone :) That's all for now. See you in six months or so :) Alan oxo "I want a single bed, i want a simpler life. But i want you by my side, i'm so confused." ps: I wish to return the not so sinister love for my wee christmas fairy. I'm missing you already xxx PS2(not the games console): Ryan, my friend, everything will be Bryter Layter. If you haven't heard any of the songs i was listening to then please get them, they are all beautiful. If you don't like them, then feel free to hurl abuse in my direction. bye bye xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From athenaofme at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 19:42:32 2001 From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:42:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a call, a coo/coup, a cough Message-ID: cheers and jeers to all you sinister kids (because you know i am in the torn state of polar opposites at every second of the daY which makes it rather difficult, hence the explaination for my stagnancy as of late...) cheers especially to rachel fruitloop for acknowleging my presence and therefore confirming my existence for the day...you've broken the stone that encases me anew each mornng when i wake...and for today, i am free to fling my arms about while speaking in the great jewish/newyorker tradition...unfortunate for the rest of you, i my never quiet down again...so thank you to miss fruitloop for opening the proverbial pandora's box... but with cheers come the inevitable jeers (for reasons i've explained in the opening paragraph)...what is with the excessive numbers of lisa's and rachel's on this list?...i'm am calling up a coup...these names have robbed us of our individuality (which rachel? which lisa?)...we may as well be as arithmatic as rachel a, rachel b, and rachel c...lisa a, lisa b, and lisa c...lik coordinates on a graph. oh how we have been reduced...if only i could step out of this vast and general crowd of lisa's and shed my name like i shed my coat when stepping into a warm house, or my clothing every evening as i retire to my bedroom...how banal to be a lisa... cheers to december for promising 8 consecutive yo la tengo shows at maxwells in hoboken (any other listers going to bopp there pretty sinisters sneakers about to yo la...perhaps we could team up and all hoover in the same corner...peter and i will be present two or more of those glorious nights)... but jeers because we get the curse of having to endure stuffed turkey and cheek-piching relatives before month and its good music arrives...if i was preparing thanksgiving dinner i would stuff my relatives instead of turkey and let the birds enjoy some pie and wine for once... -listdomlisa ...whose lost some edge with age... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 22:06:29 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:06:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Picnic Info: December 1st Message-ID: Hello again Sinister peeps! Just wanted to remind everyone about the Sinister get together in Chicago on Saturday, December 1st. Here's the plan (though changes are possible), we're keeping it simple and easy and you'll all have lots of time to ask for changes: Why don't we all just meet just inside the Art Institute lobby (before you get to the part where you pay to get in) at 3pm on Saturday. We can wander around the Art Institute or walk into town (dependent on the weather) or whatever. Then at 5pm any late arrivals can meet us in front of the Art Institute and we can go get dinner someplace relatively close (and hopefully cheap). After dinner we can hang out, hit the bar, or do whatever anyone else wants. If anyone knows of a show or an exhibit or anything else going on that day that sounds interesting let me know and maybe we'll look into it. Right now though, this seems like a good and simple plan. Everyone who thinks they are coming *please* let me know so I can get an idea of how many are going to be there. Questions? Comments? Problems? Email me and let me know. Hope to see some of you lovely people there. Cheers! Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 22:45:55 2001 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:45:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: third-wave girl Message-ID: <20011119224555.24733.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> sinisters! a while ago someone who's name started with r-o-b said something about others whose names started with r-o-b and in-fighting. hang on then, i think the roberts & robi/yns should *team up*. and forget all this mix tape stuff; we're more the hand-to-hand combat types. yar! if i lived closer than 10,000 kms away from primrose hill, there'd be a few flattened rachels and wills i can tell you that. ah, no, i'm all bravado. have you ever actually *punched* someone? it's really rather gross feeling. unless it's your brother, then it's just fine. i only ever punched one real person, and it was in highschool, so, y'know. anyway, i'd never ever ever hurt the rachels/wills; they have too much wit going for them. it's too bad that computer theramin isn't in-ter-net linkable b/c then we could have a theramin showdown. boy, is that thing fun. this robyn works in an office too. but it's a *feminist* office. yes, we all play synthesizers and sing about the revolution. no. i edit and everyone else does research. sometimes there is Heated Discussion. i am glad that we've retained walled offices though. walls rock! ooh ooh, Danny said: "It kind of got me thinking, i remember my friend was asking me what do i think would happen if there was a superior race to humans. They were nice and kind but just superior but sometimes they got mad and just killed one of us. I didn't think about it much though. It was too sci-fi-esque for me,then he started talking about giant spiders with eight eyes so, I stopped wondering. He was wondering why i stopped." YES! holy crap! imagine if some superior beast started making those 'ack ack ack spit' cat noises at you as it stalked you, mouth drooling. fear. is there anything redeemable about giant spiders though? ugh. especially if they were like the one in the tv movie of 'it'. boy did *that* suck. anyway, aren't we all happy that we're the most superior species on earth? (cue ominous music and overhead shot from giant spider's point of view.) ah, anyway, cats are great and i think it's their carnivorous nature that does it. ha ha ha! it's fun to think that when you're playing with string with a cat really what you're doing is helping them learn to *kill*. which is really scary when your cat weighs 25 lbs and positively massacres the string, making evil noises of death-to-string all the while. can anyone deal with 'trouble kid' off the new hefner album? i cannot. but i can deal with other songs on the album, and even like some them too. but what's really good is the 'solid steel presents dj food & dk 'now listen!'. wow, it is awesome. especially the transition to 'mirror in the bathroom'. i kid you not. and you can also listen to solid steel sessions on the in-ter-net. so-lid. (but now i'm thinking about how i owe people mix tapes and how i have lost my mix-tape focus. i'm busy perfecting a yoga position that should help.) so, i hear belle and sebastian did an encore in tokyo. an *encore*! i thought they were against them (well, they don't seem to do them anyway). but i hear they really liked japan and that was their last stop on tour, so... hm. but i can't help feeling that i could have done *something* to provoke an encore at their vancouver show. i think that maybe all the advances in robotics in japan created 'encore' mind-control waves. canada is just not doing enough in this important area of research. (cue ominous music and shot from robot's point of view.) things, stuff, skado, and robot love, robyn (oh no! i just remembered that there was a guy maddin film on in a theatre here last night and i missed it! agh. i think i will have to start pinning notes to my clothes: buy bok choy, bus tickets. see guy maddin film. never put salt in your eye.) (also, i bought clothes this weekend. oh geez, oh no, that was *bok choy money*. but check out this red cord skirt with black velvet ribbon in geometric design on it!) ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 22:50:22 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: but i think love should come with madness Message-ID: <23138616.1006210222386.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. this post has been a few days in the making, and is now in its second, much expanded, draft as my computer lost the first post i wrote an hour ago. it began as what was going to be a bitter diatribe echoing stacey dahling's anti-sentiments on sinister crushing (again), with a dabbling of my own anti-sentiments on real, live crushing with touching and giggling and the whole damn shebang thrown in for free. but then, i slept a night, and woke up to a thick gray nebraska mist, the kind that fills your mouth with the taste of fog whether you want it to or not. the kind that makes my hair wilty and me sad. and i thought maybe bitterness wasn't best, and maybe i'd fill the lines between my words with the heavy, damp sorrow that ushers in winter and frames the sky between dead tree branches. the birds had started to fly out, finally, that day, and their formations were sloppy. instead of strict, militant v's, they were loose, convex curves, pushing against the wind. you could see how hard they were working, wings waving up and down with a dogged determination to get out. then i slept again, and woke again, and thought maybe i wouldn't post at all. when bad things happen, i think we think we must escape, by overanalyizing or overapologizing or wishing for something that could have been or never will be, by rationalizing things that are and were with estimations of impossibilities, by adopting apathy as a substitute for choice or courage, and sleeping to wait out the mandatory wait for whatever is to come next. we pick whatever escape fits the time and is least rocky for our lagged running feet, and head out and never get off. i guess we hope for a fork or a branch to take us somewhere lese, and when we realize the runaway path is a straight shot, it's too late to turn around. so today, i am posting with no real idea (even now, after writing it once) of what the post is to be or will be, but only with the intention of getting out of my escape early, so i can get back to whatever misty area i was lost in before i started running. the list has talked much lately of love and lack of love and banes of love and the thing that seems to encompass all of those, also known as sinister crushing. and i think i have thrown in my two cents both officially in a past post and to other people here, but now i am to throw out again observances thanks to recent, unfortunate enlightenment. there is a problem with democratic loving. there is a problem with casting votes for the bestest boy or girl. there is a problem with timing and anonymity, rushing to get the vote to your beloved before someone else does. and so there is a problem with my utopia, as though through the casting of choice some of the equal people become more equal than others. i have, in my sinister day, officially cast one sinister crush vote to one narrow wizard, upon his return to the sinister fold. his brilliant inclusion of william carlos williams at the end of his post earned him a coveted miss lou crush vote. (david, take notes) and stating this to the whole of sinister does not embarass me, nor should it owen, for he is lovely and i meant it merely as a welcoming and complimentary gesture. to make his day, like a few fresh flowers or an unexpected mix-tape really -- i didn't get out the halloween wedding dress, give it a good shake and start choosing cake toppers. (though, now, upon reflection, i am blushing a bit and would delete if i hadn't already typed that. oops.) yes, owen is lovely. so. i thought maybe crushing wasn't so bad, and thought i would perhaps, very carefully, dip my toes in the pool a little more, a little longer, and i readied to do the deed again. but. for more. than just. a figurative mix-tape. and so i told some people about it, and eventually told the object of affections, as i supposed i should anyway. the vote was never cast. and the fog settled over everything the next day. the people said he was a bastard, that i was better. they said all the things people are supposed to say, and they finished it all out by telling me to do the one thing i do best, the one thing everyone always knew i'd do in the end: write. they told me to write phrases with ends of arrows, and once the arrows struck, i was to twist both clockwise and counterclockwise to blissfully emphasize the full scope of pain inflicted. because he is a bastard. they said. i have complained about not being more popular on sinister, or #sinister, for that matter. but now. i think. i am. perhaps. more popular. than i. thought. because now there is gossip, and my name in conjuction with a boy's name. traded for rumors. and i can't stop that, i guess, by obligingly being public. and i also can't stop the true fact that in the end, i guess the boy and i are only friends. love, i said to someone today, is a disease. and i feel i can say this, being a person with a qualified, medically proven, full-fledged disease. and love. well. love exacerbates my symptoms, and i fall more often and get tired more easily. love infects me more than the degeneration of my nerve coating, and i have fallen today. the bruises ring my legs from the waist down, and kneeling no longer feels like salvation. in utopia, girls shouldn't fight over boys, and the pairings off should be untainted and final. everyone should get their first choice. but instead, we get soft around the edges here, rotten. none of them are bastards, really, though when one sits on my floor and tells me i am so wonderful he had to go sleep with another girl to prove it to us both, i question that. but. they're all fucked up, girls, and so are we. we all get scared, standing on the edge of some great uncharted precipice, looking down over the terrible edge into this swirling black mass our parents like to call the real world but we know as purgatory. and we all want a hand to hold onto as we step off to fall, but we don't need one -- if we needed any more than our own two hands, we would have been given them at birth. he is not a bastard. i said. i say. but we are not in a world comprised of one body of water and pangea. we are, instead, separated and cloistered, huddled together for warmth and touch and something else we will never find. and we are divided externally by oceans and internally by floods of saltwater that breaks through tearduct dams only when love is caught and actualized. when isolation is complete and indestructible. and so is love and the world and the way. and so utopia falls with me, in my hands, and we are only i, and i am alone after all. lindsey *we are verses out of rhythm, couplets out of rhyme, in syncopated time* ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 00:37:52 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:37:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I've been wondering lately just who's going to save me... Message-ID: <20011120003752.89077.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> hello there sinister... ...i must warn you before i start this post that i have consumed a fair amount of gin tonight so please excuse any spelling mistakes or useless ramblings...well..this wont be much different from any other post then...ho hum... Hannah Brown said this : " It was good fun catching up on all the gossip, there seems to be a bit more sinister romance going on with some of you lot ;) " ...this is not enough! We want names and places and we want them now!...well i do anyway because i am at heart a lonely old woman in need of idle tittle-tattle to see me through the day...my dream job is to work in a laundrette and chew the fat with various old bearded spinsters for eight hours every day...secretly i want to be dot cotton..scary stuff... Ian sung this : "desmond has a barrow in the market place molly is the singer in a band desmond says to molly 'girl i like your face' and molly says this as she takes him by the hand" ..i used to hate this song..apart from being an awfully cheesy rinky-dink style beatles song, i used to hate my name and every teacher i ever encounterd at primary school for the first time would sing this in an oh-so hilarious way...i have learned to live with my name i think and its even grown on me in the last few years..i dont have to endure so many weak gags about barbers shops,archbishops or elderly greying sports presenters anymore now that i've left school...i'm going to call my children something simple like john or dave and save them playground humiliation in years to come... ..my best friend and his girlfriend announced their engagement last night..it kind of freaked me out at first...18 is far too young to get married and settle down and stuff...i just sort of smiled and made fish-like expressions for a while...how could you commit yourself to fifty years with the same person?...it made me happy and sad and confused and worried and excited all at the same time...i think they really are in love..but still...hmmmm...i dont really think marriage is such a great thing...it can bring so much unhappiness and regret...but then if people are in love..ach..i dont know.. ..ooh ooh! i got a mention in a rachel fruitloop post...theres something very nice and fuzzy about that...all i need now is a crush vote from somebody and i shall be the happiest young bunny in the district ;)...ah well..speaking of which i have been listening to 'lets pretend we're bunny rabbits' by the magnetic fields quite a lot recently... Richard.Gillanders.said : " the magnetic fields couldnt be talent free in my opinion " ..I was slightly dissapointed with '69 love songs' myself (i havent heard much of their other stuff)..a lot of it was quite mediocre and could have been put onto one cd to make a truly *wow* album..but then i suppose thats half the point..the best albums are inconsistent and mixed up and not all entirely fantastic...everything and everyone must have flaws to be truly fab...but then thats yesterdays news..i seem to recall some poll last year that concluded '69 love songs' was the favourite sinister album of 2000 apart from FISHYCLAP...is the same thing being done this year?...jesus i've rambled again..i will leave you alone now... ta ta.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 04:36:11 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:36:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: chicago Message-ID: hi everyone. just wanted to let you know that i dont think im going to be able to make it to the lil gathering. things have been....pretty bad to say the least and i dont think id be much in the way of company. we must have a meet up soon though...perhaps in michigan or wisconsin? anyway. i hope all of you have a toadie time and know that ill be thinking of you. :o) ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 05:05:53 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:05:53 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 'i've got dibs on the tube socks' Message-ID: it's nice to have a visitor for the weekend. my dear lemonpie laura...we were freshmen at valparaiso university together a couple of years ago. a few things about laura: she's going to be an accountant, and she thinks it's boring her car always smells like peachy peach air fresheners she says "buttons" like "buh-ens" she's started calling me "moses" i don't know where the moses thing came from...well. i started calling her "mic" because she has this strange obsession with microwaving nearly everything before she eats it. i don't think it can be good for her, but she won't listen. so, yes. mic and moses. sitting under a giant strawberry and eating sandwiches. suddenly a girl said "can i bother you?" i thought it was a funny question. most people don't want to be bothered...i said "sure." she walked over and sat down. the girl was wearing fuschia lipstick and a little cap. she told us her boyfriend had abandoned her an hour ago at a gas station a short ways away, and that her purse was in his car and she needed to scrape up twenty-one dollars for a bus ticket to manitowoc. plus, she was hungry. and out of cigarettes. we didn't have twenty-one...we had six. and half a sandwich, and a few cigarettes. we sat on a bench and smoked and she ate the sandwich and talked about shoes for a minute or two. there really weren't a lot of people around, so i drove her to a busier part of the city, where it might be easier to find someone who could help. i felt just awful letting her out of the car on north avenue, but i really couldn't do anything else. i hope she got home okay...actually, i hope she was doing some kind of strange project for school, and that she had made the whole thing up. a boy leaving a girl at a gas station in a strange city late at night.....awful. on saturday night, i secretly observed two boys arguing loudly because a girl had commented that one of them had "big arms." they were at it for quite some time, and it was very heated and quite silly to watch from my little perch high above the street. it's fun, sometimes, to sit there. nobody can see you, unless they're really looking. and nobody really looks unless you yell things at them...it seemed the argument was finally resolved, as one of them shouted "i wasn't laughing at your big arms, i was laughing at her for commenting on your big arms!" and they both sort of grunted and punched each other and took off in separate directions. laura raised her glass and yelled "oooo will ya look at the arms on THAT one!" and i guess i drank to that, and people all over the block started laughing and the boy started cursing again and waving his fist in the air, so we giggled and ran inside. leslie disappeared into the bathroom with a box of hairdye. laura ventured back out for another smoke. i sat at the computer for a short while and spilled my drink on the floor. i'm brave enough to dye my hair. i'm not really scared of being cursed at by a stranger, especially when i'm three stories off the ground. i'm not afraid to fly. and i don't think i'm scared of my parents anymore. i don't know if i was ever really "scared." maybe "intimidated..." so now what..... i think i'm still afraid of the dark, sometimes. and i can't watch scary movies at all. telephones make me nervous. but...none of this is very interesting. sorry. i apologize too much. some people say....i'm sorry for that, too. okay. enough from me love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 14:53:43 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:53:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Racy Line Dancer Jane Message-ID: Hello, Richard Gillanders talked about his recollections of various proverbs being misused. I guess I should put on my coat and ride my bike.. because I have been known by some friends for years for re-inventing common sayings. I hear all these wonderful phrases being used by other people and I want to use them, but I can never remember any of them to stay alive. So I just make some up, besides, if everyone use the same mottos all the time it'd just get really dull. James Gilmer said: >>The same goes for Magnetic Fields. I just don't get it; "WOW! 69 completely medicore songs about love sang in mildly different styles!! What a fucking genius!" << I agree, if it were "69 sex songs" it would have been more genius, or even better, "69 songs about fucking with knives". Seriously, tho, I don't think I've ever thought the Magnetic Fields were geniuses BECAUSE they did an album with 69 love songs in it, but rather that did an album with wonderfully written songs such as "The luckiest guy on the lower east side" and "All my little words" in it. Those are as far away from mediocre as one end of Isobel's arse to the other. For REAL talent-free zone listen to the Red Bull Dozers: http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd/ They can't even get their songs to rhyme properly. If you listen to them, you won't get it, cos there's nothing to get. Ian and Richard then talked about the likes of Jimi Hendrix and Led Zapplin and Cream etc., all with a notorious level of guitar wanking ability? I think guitar wanking is a talent, just a different talent to song writing. If song writing is an art then rawk guitar solos are more like a sport, type thing. Both require talents but in different areas. I might be throwing a straw at the whole boat here but I found that rock bands are mostly more exciting to watch than an artsy wartsy band, much like watching a live football match of your favourite team is more exciting than seeing a painting by your favourite artist in a museum when you've already seen photos of it ten times (when you go "oooh I've seen it now", and then walk off after 10 minutes). For REAL talent-free zone listen to the Red Bull Dozers: http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd/ They can't even strum their guitars in time. But I guess at least they don't smoke on stage. Is demotion the best form of promotion? Like how defence is the best form of attack? Wrong proverbs and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: I think cats killing birds is just cruel, they should be kept inside houses and be cute and eat only whatever we feed them because that is their purpose in life. Birds can eat worms all they like though cos worms are ugly. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mairaefabio at xxx.br Sat Nov 17 06:55:28 2001 From: mairaefabio at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Snoozer/_Ma=EDra_Ezequiel?=) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:55:28 -0200 Subject: Sinister: the tape Message-ID: <005f01c16f36$4c144b00$7c78c7c8@mxyzptlk> Hi, everyone. Well, some people here asked me about the recording of b&s concert in Rio. I've said it didn't work out, but then again i thought i had a chance!!! Yesterday the tv reprised (!?) the concert. Unfortunately, not all of it. Edited with commercials. Argh! What to do? As i've said, the quality is great, you people are gonna love it! So,... send me your addresses everyone and i'll try to send them one by one. As international mail in Brazil is kinda expensive, please don't expect all the recordings right away at the same time. BE PATIENT! I promise i'll do the best i can to make everyone happy. ;) About the trades, we can discuss as soon as you receive'em. Here's the content (about an hour): - Interview with Mick and Chris; - TV intro (history and bits of b&s videos); - the concert: 1) Le Pastie de la Burgeoise 2) Women's Realm 3) New (i don't know whether it's in one of the two last singles or they just didn't record it yet). It's a very nice song, with clapping hands and the word 'señorita'. 4) I Fought in the War (the voice of the woman on the tv spoils this one) 5) Me and the Major 6) Don't leave the light on Babe 7) The Model 8) Simple Things 9) The Boy with the Arab Strap 10) The Fox in the Snow 11) Judy and the Dream of Horses 12) The Wrong Girl 13) Minha Menina (Stevie's portuguese singing is incredibly funny) 14) Legal Man AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last weekend MTV Brasil presented a special show with Belle & Sebastian. It's called "Lado B", and it's like the american "120 min.". Anyway this show was all Scottish bands special and there were 4 live b&s songs in Trama studios (that is the company which releases b&s records in Brazil). Also, there's a Stuart Murdoch interview and several videos of the band. This can be included in the rest of the tape, right? ok, waiting for your replies.. take care, Fabio the Snoozer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Mon Nov 19 21:42:14 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:42:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a picnic memoir... Message-ID: <20011120182854.EWFX692.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.98.113]> Well, I can now officially declare in BIG BOLD CAPITALS to all you folk who haven't ever been to a Sini picnic that they are fun. Or this one was anyway. And I also now know know what sinister people look like and I can imagine them sitting at their computers, tapping away at their posts and think "I can just imagine that person saying that". So, it started dismally, to be honest. I remebered about the picnic at 1 o'clock in the afternoon while wandering, rather lost, among the posh art galleries of Cork St. (A Grammar note, should I put a full stop after an abbreviation? I've no idea).(I'll put now, though, anyway) So I jumped upon the nearest tube (Picadilly) and got out of Camden Town tube at about 1:55. This may seem a long time but I couldn't find the station for bloody ages so it's pretty reasonable. I then thought two things: 1)Oh damn, I can't remember how to get to Primrose hill from here. 2)Oh Bugger, I didn't bring any food. I then proceeded to get lost attempting to find primrose hill by walking along the canal. Which, for those of you not familiar with Camden Geography is a way, but not a good one, to get to Primrose Hill. At this point I unzipped my Cardigan so that my Ampersand t-shirt showed, just in case no-one was looking very twee and I was too nervous to talk to them, in case they said "What's Sinister?" and looked at me oddly. But my t-shirt showing paid off, as down the hill came James Danson-Hatcher and Hannah Brown (I, of course had no idea who they were at this time), who asked me if I was sinister. They were off to the pub, as no-one appeared to have turned up so I came with them. But then we met more people and soon there were 5 of us at then top of the hill, including Will salt and Fellow Rachel, Miss Sunnyside, and another Rachel, who wasn't a listee. All three of whom (grammar) had come from Dundee, which I have to say, seems a bit far for a picnic. The detailed stuff wil stop now but suffice it to say that we went to the pub, and I asked Hannah to get my drinks as I have been all nervous of ordering in pubs since I got chucked out of one. Ken Chu also showed up. And things happened, but I had to leave early as I was meeting my friend Daniel at 7 and felt it was too late to just cancel. So I didn't get to see that much of the drinking game, and I was sad to leave, And I hope to go to another, dead soon. !Viva Rachels! Joe/Rachel Vester/Pancake +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 19:29:51 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:29:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: but i fell for the promise of a life with a purpose Message-ID: <10249424.1006284591829.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinster. miss lou is here again, because of the strange human attraction to write about tragedy. yesterday, i got three phone calls in thirty minutes, all telling me the boy was dead. and the rumors were started: in chicago, in omaha, with his car, with a gun. it didn't matter. he was dead. he and i hadn't talked for two years, not since we had a falling out. but. there was a photograph on my shelf, when i finally got home at two a.m. a photograph of him and me at my senior prom. i wore a black feather boa, and the cheap dye turned my skin a dirty gray, and that night we laughed about how i looked dead. he took me to a restaurant called the destiny cafe; it's closed now. he brought me a long-stemmed red rose -- he put it on the seat of the car, so when we left my house to get in the car, i almost sat on the long stem of thorns. it was the first flower a boy had ever given me. everything is disjointed today, and i hadn't cried until five minutes ago. my journalism professor came over to me, and told me to write. write when you're ready to, he said, and he gave me a hug and a piece of minty gum. the photograph is in my handbag. my handbag is here, next to my feet. there is a bracelet. a slap bracelet. red with gold thread, flowers, chinese dragons. very cheesy. it is on my wrist now, and i wonder where the matching one the boy had is at, whether or not he kept it. i wonder who will be at the funeral tomorrow, and i am sad that i will find out. i wonder why the kids i know will be there didn't notice, didn't see, and why i gave up and left and didn't stay so i could save him. and then i remember that fate doesn't negotiate. today, the test i have to take in a half hour and the gossip about me and the shit from the last few days pales in comparison to this obtrusive death. part of my life has an end, now, and i didn't ask for it or bring it about. there are things i'd like to say. about life and death and rumors and love and loss and people here. but. i won't. i think i am successfully lost and floundering again, back in that misty spot. and so i do what everyone always knew i would do. lindsey ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 19:27:21 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:27:21 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Go Where you Wanna Go, Do what you wanna to do..... Message-ID: <3BFAAE97.99D42497@netopia.com> Hello all. It's been a while since I have posted. To be exact, I went to the B&S show on September 9th ,(two days before the world changed), at The Warfield in San Francisco. My review the following week was somber at best. I recently read a review in Rolling Stone on the September 11th B&S show here in the states, great review and picture! I am so proud that B&S went on with the show and continued to inspire and uplift. I remember visiting New York years ago and hearing "California Dreaming" by the Mama's and the Papa's, and every time I hear the song now I'm always reminded of both places. Been listening to a soundtrack from a movie called "Beautiful Thing", cute movie awesome soundtrack! The first handful of songs is by Mama Cass then the remaining songs by the Mama's and the Papa's. I have been listening to the "Jonathan David" single constantly. It was a great traveling c.d. while driving up to Lake Tahoe in northern California a few weeks back. Along with Rufus Wainright-"Poses", the new "Best of Morrisey" and of course The Strokes. Any word on Storytelling release in the U.S.? Any picnic's in the bay area? I have a debate with some friends of mine on what I call California Speak or Slang. Ours may not be as evident as a New Yorker's. I think it's apparent when we say things like "hella", or "like" about 50 times. Anyone else agree? O.k. I'm rambling at work in my cubicle in silly-con valley! See ya! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Nov 20 21:28:43 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:28:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my teenage years were wasted all on me Message-ID: <20011120212843.2497.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> heyhey i just thought i'd pop in to let you cats know "what's goin on". first i must make an official statement defending my poor poor misunderstood friend stephin merritt. the magnetic fields/stephin merritt are/is a beautiful, tragic, poetic band/person. all of their/his songs are works fueled by unfulfillable longing, loneliness, and love. not to mention a certain amount of self-depracating humour & irony. 69 love songs has many many gems on it. i whole-heartedly urge all to explore it and to explore all of stephin merritts works. you wont be sorry. whew. ok. that felt good. so.....yeah. anyway, last week i went and saw the play "tartuffe" at the theatre de la jeune lune here in minneapolis. and i was spellbound by it. i'm seeing it again tomorrow. moliere really knew how to piss people off. only one week till the new b&s single! so the other day i was walking in the rain to buy incense and i ended getting completely soaked and buying some new strange incense i've never had before. i usually just buy nag champa, but i bought some others too...tibetan rope incense, some potala, and a little bag of frankincense and some charcoal to burn it on. oh and i also bought the memoirs of j.d. salingers daughter. it's called "dreamcatcher" and so far, it's quite good. anyway, i got home, dried off and started burning some incense.....the potala smells like B.O. i'm not kidding. its very pungent in a bad way. the rope incense smells like a prairie fire. and the frankincense.....well....we had fun with that. i lit a charcoal in a smalll bowl and put a few grains of the incense on it and within a few minutes the whole flat was full of smoke. everyone was coughing....after it died down, we decided that we liked all the incense smoke wafting about the place, so my friend hiromi dumped some jasmine oil on the charcoal and it made a huge cloud of heavy jasmine smoke. it was mayhem, let me tell you. so now, even 3 days later the place just reeks of jasmine. which isnt a bad thing when your underarm smells and your kitchen looks like hell. (yes that was my obligatory b&s reference) so tonight i will go home and call my beautiful girl, and then i'll finally do the dishes cause LOVE MOTIVATES. into amythest eyes --light refracted --love enacted my soul enchanted cries awash with tears and sighs i got a new cd thats grate! Hope Sandoval and the Warm Intentions. its the singer from mazzy star and its so soothing. anyway, i'm off. many loves and kindness to strangers.... caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 03:13:08 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:13:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: In this issue: "Jimmy Jack and the Amazon Women of Venus"! Message-ID: Okay, I suppose I�ll try this again. I had spent about an hour earlier typing out a post only to have hotmail crash on me and eat what I�d written. So here I am, about as tired as an �Isobel�s arse� joke, banging out another version of that post. Oddly enough, despite it being a bit early in the season, I�ve found myself going through my cd�s and mp3's for Christmas songs. When I was younger I always had a strong dislike of Christmas, sometimes even a hate of Christmas, but in recent years I�ve mellowed quite a bit, and I have to admit I�ve come to enjoy the season. I dig the gaudy decorations, and the lights, and the snow, and the Christmas carols. Christmas for me isn�t really Christmas, it�s Santy Claus day, and Santy Claus day isn�t even really about presents and such. It�s about what I mentioned before; lights and decorations and hot chocolate and rosey cheeked girls singing Christmas carols. �Fairytale of New York� is the greatest Christmas song ever written. It�s a song to be sung with a grin on your face, a pint in your hand, and your other arm wrapped around a friend or lover. Oh, don�t look at me like that, even the punky boy gives in to romanticism sometimes. I�m feeling quite happy because I finally made a big decision that�s been bugging me for the past several weeks. Instead of going to grad school, I�m going back to my first love, the medical field. Next semester I start on my Associate Degree in Radiologic Technology, which is a fancy way of saying I�m going to become an x-ray tech. After I get my certification and start working at a real job, I may or may not go back for Nuclear Medicine, which was what I had originally been going to go to college for. Yesterday my best friend since kindergarten announced him and his wife were having a baby. It�s brilliant because I can�t imagine any two people being better parents. The odd thing is, some of our other friends kept asking me; �So, you must really be feeling old, right?� Huh? I have to say that I�m not. I think it�s funny how people say or ask that at birthdays and weddings and such. Actually, it seems like the older I get the younger I feel. I think being happy and enjoying oneself is the secret of youth, and I�ve manage to learn how to enjoy myself quite a bit over the years. I think the whole age thing (as far as mentally �feeling� it) is pretty subjective, and speaking of subjective things... In my last post I talked about a few bands I didn�t like, and I made sure I mentioned it last time, but I�ll do it again before I start in, this is just my subjective, personal opinion. This is the answer you�d get if you walked up to me in a pub and said; �Jim, what do you think of Magnetic Fields/White Strips?�. If you think it�s too harsh or unfair, fair enough, but understand that I don�t mean to offend anyone, I�m just giving you my honest, very subjective, opinion. Ken said; �I don't think I've ever thought the Magnetic Fields were geniuses BECAUSE they did an album with 69 love songs in it, but rather that did an album with wonderfully written songs� Well, I do think there are some nice enough songs on 69 Love Songs, �All my Little Words�, �Absolutely Cuckoo�, and �Come back from San Francisco� are decent enough songs, and many of the others are nice enough tunes, and some are even fun, but the problem I have with Magnetic Fields is similar to the problem I have with the White Strips. My problem is that Merrit acted like an ass and a pretentious lout at the live show I happened to see awhile back, and from hearing from others, that�s his *thing*. Not only was he a complete dick to the audience, and was obviously working it to put forth an image of aloof pretentiousness and talking shit about how brilliant he is, he sang the songs in such an utter aloof deadpan that he sucked any fun the tunes originally had right out. My real problem is that the tunes are just pastiches, which is fine in itself, pastiches can sometimes be fun and Mag Fields do drop in some clever lyrics here and there, but it doesn�t take a fucking genius to knock out pastiches, and quite frankly pastiches bore me for the most part. But hey, fair enough, like I said pastiches can be fun if they�re done with a sense of humour. But acting like an ass and being a dick to your audience whilst talking shit about what a fucking genius you are and being a miserable bastard in general is not conducive to a kind view from me. I�ve had friends (hell, I�ve gotten emails from list people) tell me; �Oh, yeah, Merrit�s an asshole, but that�s his *thing*� Well, fuck that, I don�t have time for assholes in my day to day life so why should I go ga-ga over some twat who thinks he�s a brilliant !Artiste! and acts like a dick to his audience? Some mildly cleaver lyrics and pastiches of tunes does not a genius make. With the White Stripes it�s a bit different, I�ve only ever heard their albums, but my problem as far as the music goes is pretty much the same. They�ve got some songs that I really dig, �Hotel Yorba� is a cool little piece of pop, and �Pretty Good Looking for a Girl� amuses me every time I hear it, but they�re still fucking pastiches!! I�m listening to �Fell in Love with a Girl� and there�s Black Francis� breathless gasping as the song tumbles into the babely-poppy chorus and I�m thinking; fucking pastiche! It�s okay, but it�s still a pastiche! They have whole albums of pastiches and it�s annoying as hell. I�m not saying pastiches are automatically bad, but as much fun as they can sometimes be, they�re just disposable. I just can�t get all that excited over artists who aren�t giving me much more than pastiches. There�s a different between using a style and just making a pastiches. Belle and Sebastian may be grooving in the style of 60's San Fran flower-pop in their recent work, but they�ve got their own vibe and are bringing new things to the table and actually borrowing elements of style rather than lifting whole parts. Ken said; "69 songs about fucking with knives" That�s the new Angelina Jolie album, isn�t it? Ian said; "desmond has a barrow in the market place molly is the singer in a band desmond says to molly 'girl i like your face' and molly says this as she takes him by the hand.... -" if you know the song, you're already singing it� Yup, just pasting that in put that song back into my head immediately. But it�s a great song, eh? It also has the name Molly in it. Molly is the best girl�s name ever. I love all girls named Molly, especially Irish girls named Molly. Ian also said; �well, vive le difference, my friend� Well, that�s the whole point isn�t it? Pretty fucking boring if we all had the same tastes and opinions. ian then said; �i think tori appeals to those of us who would like to visit the moon in a big green snow-shoe� Ahhh, that explains it then. See, I don�t want to go to the moon, I want to go to Venus or Mars, and I want to go in one of those old gilded Edwardian science fiction rocketships, the kind that used to grace the covers of those old pulp magazines back from the 20's and 30's. You all know those old pulps, the kind of magazines that had cover blurbs like �Jimmy Jack versus the Madman of Mars!!!� and were filled with stories like �Jimmy Jack and the Amazon Women of Venus�. Because Pulp = Punk and that is a Good Thing. ....... Well, actually, the Amazon Women sound like a Pretty Damn Good Thing too, but that�s beside the point... Rachel said; �I have a close friend who is trying to tell me that I have to love myself first and I think he's really smart about these things.� He is smart. I think that being able to love oneself and be happy in those quiet moments when you�re alone with yourself is one of the most important things in life. There�s an old saying I like; �Life delights in itself� The problem is, in the words of the wise old poet (courtesy of Jack Kerouac), the secret of life is; �There�s a lot of bastards out there�. It�s always a trick to know when to keep your guard up or let someone get close. There�s a lot of users out there, and sometimes they don�t even know they�re doing it. Just like a catapillar tearing through a leaf they keep plowing on and don�t pay attention to the damage they left behind. Rachel said; �I also thought that the Strokes sound like Elvis Costello meets The Clash.� Hmmm, if they had sounded a bit more like that I might have liked them better. To be fair, I�ve been listening to the Strokes quite a bit lately and they�ve grown on me. I still think they�re in danger of being Oasis for this decade, but they�re got energy and you can tell they give a damn. It�s going to be interesting to see how they grow, if they keep using recycled sounds or if they start breaking new ground. One last one from Rachel; �I also just want to thank LL for uncovering Jimmy G's secret about making a swell record in the 1950's...� Oh yeah, my old heartthrob days back in the 50's before the drink, drugs, and dames took their toll. Kirsten said; �none of this is very interesting� Which is funny, because I�ve always thought that Kirsten�s stories are the most interesting of the lot, usually for the slightly odd beauty of them. I�ve never been to Milwaukee, but from Kirsten descriptions I can only picture it as an oddly surreal mix of Oz, Narnia, Chicago, and Batman�s Gotham populated by a collection of strange and colourful individuals. Interesting to say the least. Much love to the lot of you, and special shouts to...oh, they know who they are... ...... ............ Oh, okay, just to make them feel special; shouts to Elise, Sean, Lovely Laura Llew, Rachel Fruitloop, Amy Longapplecorejacks (who I owe an email), and the whole Great Lakes area crew. A special PUNK ROCK! To ~stine, who deserves to feel a lot toadier than she has lately. Jim �Incidentally, children: every time you say "bring the Rock"...the Rock dies a little bit. And when you saw "rawk", it coughs blood� - Warren Ellis _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 07:22:47 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:22:47 EST Subject: Sinister: Hanging from the spoon Message-ID: <171.448a99e.292cb047@aol.com> Sinister, My posts are the most ridiculous things for me to type, for me to "send", and for me to have pop up in my own in-box. How sick! To see my own stupid e-mail address and then to read my abstruse rantings--so, anyway, I promise this will be something that isn't totally ridiculous. Ok? Allright? Spic-n-span. It's beginning to be the kind of weather that whenever I enter a room, the only thing that crosses my mind is "There should be a fireplace in here,": either that, or I wish I could walk around campus, around work, and around my home constantly wrapped in a blue fuzzy electric blanket. I've actually never owned an electric blanket--I think someone's aunt told me in 1987 that they "totally cause Cancer," and since, I just have stayed clear from them. Instead, I usually take it upon myself to complete the task of keeping my feet warm without wearing slippers--it usually involves me bending my legs in such a fashion that my feet are drawn up so close to my heat-radiating body that they manage to stay semi-warm. But anyway, this is all such crap--because this paragraph was really meant to be about fashion. It's so hard to be fashionable under a big bulky coat--especially a huge orange monster that was purchased at a second-hand shop for $6. The good thing about the monsterous coat was that there was a $20 note in one of the pockets, probably still crisp and cozy from 1967 or so. I think I spent it on cigarettes and coffee and booze (the cancer-warning aunt apparently did not hold THAT big of an influence on me). This year I am in dire straights. I am.. and please, stop me if you can, considering ordering.. a jacket.. from.. J. Crew. Yeah. The thought has crossed my mind--how does someone come to a point where he or she actually looks through such a catalogue with a gazing eye? Apparently I've gone through this horrible transformation. I might be past the point of no return-- I cannot phantom the sort of people who fly home intentionally for such a holiday like Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving has never been big in my book, at all--I mean, it's a holiday all about gorging oneself on semi-bland food. My family is already very close, I don't need to see them anymore than I already do, frankly enough. A friend and I recently had a conversations about our parents hearing Belle and Sebastian--he said that his mother heard "Stars of Track and Field" and was apparently offended: "Why would anyone want to wear terry underwear?" His mother asked him. My mother had a more light-hearted reaction. I think she just lightly giggled and asked, "Did he just say his celibate days are over?" Most people I know can simply sink down in their bean bag chairs and be excited about a few days off, some good company, and a few turkey legs on which to gnaw. Me, this year, I'm all screwed up--I just can't let myself relax about this. Right now I have a quadrant of notebook paper sprawled out on my desk, a few scribblings, a few weeksworth of notes, observations, phrases, words, crimps, clackings, hackings, slips, bad hand writing, lists, hassled questions--I guess, after a few wrestles with it, it's turned out to be somewhat of a story. But not really. I'm trying to finish said story, but I cannot help but feel like it is completely, totally, un-okay. If I could have it my way, here is how I'd have it--I'd need a visitor, for one. I enjoy showing people around Colorado. I always say that I think this state is boring and out-grown its too-short britches, but it really is beautiful when it wants to be. So I'd take said visitor around the front range (and of course, if this is being had my way, it would be spring.. )and up to the mountains for cherry cider. There is a little winding highway that leads to a village called Estes Park about 60 miles West of where I live--every 10 miles or so there will be little shacks perched along the roads that have bottles of the brightly-colored cider hanging from the roof like bizarre christmas lights. Only a few times in my life have I stopped for the cider. And my god, is it sweet nectar. So instead of eating and watching a thanksgiving parade, I'd be showing this person this beautiful state, and how somehow, I don't know how, this would make me totally interesting--that really, if I were from, say, South Dakota, I would just not be me--that this cherry cider is all about me, that these mountains are totally my thing, even though all I really do is walk down 42nd Avenue which looks like any ordinary street displaced from any ordinary town. Besides all that crap, I have some info that will drive you all mad with jealousy--guess who gets to meet Ms. Lindsey Baker on November 30th? ******* mandee m a y "inconsolably okay" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Wed Nov 21 08:23:31 2001 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:23:31 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: OFFTOPIC: info needed from all London and Edinburgh listees, places, to visit? things to do whilst in London and Edinburgh?:) Message-ID: Hey there sinisterinies:) How YOU doin'? (said in Joey Tribiani from 'Friends' manner, natch) It's da Kinsta all da way from Perth, Western Australia. Hope everyone is doing nicely. I'm nearing the end of my exams and so far soalright:) Wish me luck for last one! Hard to study though cos am frequently daydreaming about going to London and Europe in December! I'm off to do my medical elective there: 4 weeks at Guy's Hospital (doing paediatrics) and 2 weeks at Whipps Cross hospital (doing A&E) which is VERY exciting. Are any of the listees med students at either of those hospitals??? Or been there for any reason at all? Tell me what to expect! I know Guy's is old and Whipps Cross is extremely busy but anything else? And as for those listees who might be studying there, give me the full skinny! And maybe could we meet, so I don't feel so lost when I'm there:) Also listees in London and Scotland, what are the cool gigs happening around Dec 2001 to the end of feb 2002? Any sinisterinie get-togethers? Cos that'd be really ace. Last time I was in London, missed out on a Sinister shindig at the Poetry Caf with Hefner, which would have been awesome! So tell me what cool bands, gigs, events are happening in that time? Am gonna miss out on Alfie which will be a bummer (going backpacking with a friend from Venice to London in dec). Any other interesting gigs? Also what are the coolest record shops, where I can score the rarest, most obscure and hard-to-find CD's (sadly don't own a vinyl player)? I was introduced to the delights of Rough Trade and the Music and Video Exchanges which are so amazing. But any other shops? I'll be living with rellies (that's relatives in Aussie slang) in St John's Wood. Any cool record shops around there? I need your help Sinisterinies, to score cool music! What are other worthy record shops to visit? Okay well hope to hear from some of you soon and take care peeps! Kin Woo "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk Wed Nov 21 11:25:07 2001 From: Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk (Doyle Patrick) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:25:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:31:54 -0000 Message-ID: Hello my name is Patrick Doyle, Iam 16 years old and attend Keith Grammar School. Although I joined the list quite a while ago, this is the first chance I have had to write to you lot. I have enjoyed reading the e-mails from sinister very much but have never had anything much to write about. I don't actually have access to a computer at home so I actually use the computers at my school. At the moment I should actually be writing a 500 word essay on the Biological Approach to Psychology for my learning distance course. But I felt I needed to write to you as everyone else writes on a regular basis and as I say this is only my first time!!!! I am one of only 3 Belle and Sebastian fans in my entire school, I suppose nobody else understands the genius of the greatest band on earth, as they are too busy trying to pretnd that they actually see talent in idiots such as limp biscuit (gimps!) At breaktime today me and my friend Jenna managed to get Tigermilk (masterpiece) played on the common room CD player, which is not as easy as it sounds. Why doesn't anyone understand how amazing Belle and Sebastian actually are? Me, Jenna and my Physics teacher are the only people that truly see Belle and Sebastian for what they really are. I'm sorrry that this was such a weak first entery to the list but I promise that they will improve with time!!!! Thanks for listening Patrick Doyle P.S Anyone that plays the trumpet, Cello, Violin or Drums are more than welcome to join me and Jenna's B+S tribute band. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 21 13:13:49 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:13:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE:the boy most likely and the girl most lovely Message-ID: <3BFBA88D.6C05A1DE@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello just thought that was a rather cool post. I often wonder what would have happened and what i would be like if little things were different, i nearly moved to scotland when i was 4, who knows where i would be, maybe i would have known some scottish sinister lot???? I sometimes feel really relieved at how ive turned out and am happy with everything and then sometimes i get really pissed off with myself and want to go somewhere and exchange my brain for a better one. does anyone else feel like that, you know, when your own company becomes this annoying friend who you want to say "fuck off" to but can't. I suppose "go to sleep would be better". Sometimes thinking about what would have been can be dangerous, i mean we will never know unless there are many other parallel universes with different things going on. Am i starting to talk spacy crap? yes! On a different and twee not, i have really been getting into my herbal teas lately ( i bet that piece of info has made your day) and there is one called "camomile and lime floweres", Don't you think that "the lime flowers" would be a great name for a whispy twee band, well i think so. hm im off to think of a witty explaination to why i should get tickets to the jools holland show keep on smiling love hannahxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 17:17:19 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:17:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Storytelling mostly Message-ID: Hello Patrick Doyle! <> I like the sound of your Physics teacher. Did you know that Mad Dog Murdoch took Physics too? He was rubbish! http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200005/msg00241.html Maybe your teacher likes them because he can go out and dance to them without having to buy a new cardigan or wiping biscuit crumbs off his trousers first. That's why I do, anyway. I met BIG STU at the weekend! Hello BIG STU! We saw Pulp at R!O!C!K! City, and although we didn't manage a picnic and weren't even standing together I still saw him all night - from anywhere in the room! Idleberry, I'd recommend you see Ghost World at the weekend because it's ace. When I saw it they showed a trailer beforehand for Storytelling, which, as far as I could hear, had all of the new B+S songs on it. The songs sound pretty good too, but I'm not so sure about the film. From what I've heard it's been a bit of a disaster, with the third and main part of it being completely dropped in order to get an R-rating. And I don't know if I'd like what's left anyway. I didn't enjoy Happiness very much because it wasn't really about happiness, it was all about laughing at people's misfortune. I know that's the point, but I didn't like it. So I like storytelling, but I don't think I'll like Storytelling. I hope I'm proved wrong, but the way the trailer was pushing the soundtrack, with a big Jeepster logo splodged on the screen at the end, it looked like the studio thought the soundtrack had a better chance than the film too. Jonathan King's being sent to prison! Hooray! R . _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 17:45:07 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:45:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: All the destinys I've ever ruined... Message-ID: I've not been posting much recently, though I'm not sure you wou've noticed the glaring absence of my name from your inboxes and trashcans. "Why have you come back at this moment?" I see you all ask. Well...the answer is simple, I'd forgotten what the list was all about. Whining. I guess I'd forgotten that instead of driving people crazy with discussion of failure & triumph, hate & love and despair & more despair, I should've written a post instead. That was the annoyance would fit nicely into a little email that could be deleted at the mere press of a button. So...I've learned from my mistakes. Now I shall go back to what I'm good at, rambling and whining. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 20:01:20 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:01:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Bogus bowfrie and the spiders from ballfarg Message-ID: <4c.213c43c.292d6210@aol.com> Hewwo, I did it. I finally did it. I cut off my hair. Well, not me personally, because i would have just made a mess of it, but I paid someone else to do it. It's not long any more. In fact it's quite short. I have illness. I always have illness, this months variety is a slight tendancy to lose consciousness quite randomly. Which is quite embarrassing, so I went to the doctor and said "yo, make me be not ill" so they took blood out of my arm and they're going to test if for all kinds of nasty diseases. And if that doesn't show up, there could be the added bonus of going for brain scans because apparently i've been hit round the head a rather unhealthy amount of times. Feel my joy. But I promised colin that should I have any abnormal growths, I'll save him some. To be honest I'm more worried about not getting into university to be a dentist. Which might not happen if I'm off sick all the time. I got a B in a test you know. That's never happened before. I've got Yuletide and the festive season all planned out already. I'm spending christmas at the good lieutenant's to avoid my family, and possibly new year as well, although the lovely Ian Hatcher is coming up. He's not on sinister anymore. He's sadly missed. I might be obsessive and go and look at his old posts or something. I don't like christmas very much. My favourite time of year is usually halloween, although I didn't like that much either. I never got any monkey nuts, and I seriously contemplated drinking bleach. Except I didn't at all. Imagine how bad it would be to be allergic to ribena. I made my heavy metal friend listen to B&S. She said they all sounded the same. I don't think they do. Am I a doormat? Hugs, Jen Ps: Irrefuatable proof that france is part of britain: http://www.angelfire.com/weird/mmmhowqueer/mapofbritain.jpg +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melmoz13 at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 19:52:27 2001 From: melmoz13 at xxx.com (Melmoz) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:52:27 -0600 Subject: Sinister: And why do you smile when you think about Earl's Court? Message-ID: Howdy y'all, this is Melissa (Melmoz) from Texas. Been out of the nursery for a while now, so thought I might write to make myself known. I got into B&S just recently (well for about 4 months now) and I am just learning about the wonders of their music. Actually I have learned SO much from listening to all of you and now I dig TBS, The Whitlams, Lucksmiths, Sigur Ros, (sorry, don't know how to put accents over my letters on this keyboard) etc. Before my initiation into Sinister, I have been only listening to groups that are local or more mainstream releases from the US/UK. It is hard to find the more underground UK and Australian groups out here in Dallas, unless you know what you are looking for. So now I know what to look for, thanks to you guys. Since I am new, can someone explain the word 'Twee' to me? I bet it has been mentioned before, but can't check the logs b/c I am at work. Man, they really keep the reins pulled on us here with the Internet. Can't do much of anything, they even blocked Hotmail, so I had to do a little number on my Outlook Express to get it to access it for me. Work is so refreshing, eh? I am in graduate school here in Dallas, doing work towards my Master's in Information Technology. And working 40+ hours a week to boot. It is actually working out pretty well. And please, don't sing the theme song to the show 'Dallas', there could not be a more misleading interpretation of Texas than that show! My friend who now lives in London says that she is so tired of people singing that to her when she tells them where she is from. I wish I were still in London or Scotland so I could get to meet all of you guys. I went on a two week tour of the entire island last summer and I just fell in love with the place. So nice and cool weather-wise, I actually got to wear jumpers there in June! My very first day on Sinister was the day that Stacey Dahling submitted her three-part travel journal greatness. I was totally hooked. (note to Stacey: I love your pictures on your website of your UK trip! I look at them from time to time to see if I can match names to faces) Now a major part of my morning every day is spent catching up on the Sinister emails and wondering about how everyone's lives are going. It all sounds so foreign and exciting to me, lived here in this town ALL 27 years of my life. My family was also born and raised here so we have no relations in other countries or states for that matter. Pretty mundane, but nevertheless it is all I know. Even when I was in the nursery, I actually emailed and talked with some Sinistereens and they were greatness! Ken Chu, Sean (Amebix13), Caleb Ben Moore, and 'Joe Vester' to name a few. Actually I am confused a little by the names on the emails I get, don't know if the names are actual or made up so that we can't tell gender or anything. Come to think of it, I might be the only one who is confused by this. Got a site for you guys to visit. My friend Kristin has a band in the Baltimore area called Ellen Cherry. You guys should check them out at www.ellencherry.com . They have some clips to download from an earlier album so you can see what they sound like. I dig 'em. Just got Boy with an Arab Strap cd for my birthday. Got the main albums now, so I need to work on the ep's (or so my friend Vince says). Talk at you guys soon. Feel free to drop me a line to say hello! Shrinky-dinks, Melmoz ****************************************************************** "Cause in a belted coat, oh, I secretly knew That I hadn't a clue" -Morrissey ****************************************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 20:08:01 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:08:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: march goodness by the sea under the sweet grecian sun..for you? Message-ID: ok folks call me mad, but i'm going ahead and planning an athenian picnic a few MONTHS in advance but i'm doing this so that all you wacky brits can take advantage of some FAB cheapo airfare while it's till cheapo and so you can submit your holiday requests and all that fun stuff (aren't i sooo practical?) anyway, the date i have fixed on is: SUNDAY, MARCH 24 if this is problemmatic for anyone who had planned on coming, let me know and we'll do something creative maybe. for everyone else, write it in your calendars yes! um and email me if you are even considering coming. LOGISTICS (including and followed by ENTICEMENTS): easyjet has insanely cheap flights right now. the sooner you book the better because the prices increase randomly. i suggest you make a proper holiday of it and come for a week. i'll be happy to put you up or find you cheap accomodations (everything is pretty cheap here) and will entertain you and show you all the sites. here's what i found: from london luton to athens, tuesday, march 19, 27 quid from athens to london on monday, march 25 or tuesday, march 26, 22 quid (both fares at www.easyjet.com) i flew a cheap charter flight to london (air2000..eek!) and it was AWFUL. i flew easyjet back to athens and it was actually quite fab! nice new plane, lots of room, the stewerdesses were always available but didn't hassle you. it's a 4-hour flight. http://www.geocities.com/dahling007 ok..as for enticements: 1) huge bottles of beer for 20p! 2) lovely weather and no tourists!! BEAUTIFUL blue skies and all that postcard-perfect stuff. 3) joanna and i have chosen the perfect spot already: a park near an abandoned airport with lush green grass that no one else goes to. PLUS it's by the sea!!! so after we eat and drink to silliness we can walk along the beach. mmmm. 4) several sinisterenes on week-long holidays means more than one day of drinking fun. it means endless fun. it means late nights eating cheap yummy YUMMY food and drinking cheap yummy wine at a rembetika taverna (traditional greek jazz); starlight walks among ancient ruins; ISLAND JAUNTS! yes. and parties at the shack's shag shack itself... in the old brothel district. awwwwww shit. 5) all this is super cheap.. like, less than 300 quid. probably less than 200 quid. 6) you get to meet MOI (and get guided tours by a real live classicist) and joanna and dimitra and probably mr. broccoli. um... do you really need much enticement to take a grecian holiday??? anyway...email me! lyns, sunny rachel, danny... i know you're interested. anyone else? waiting... ~dahling ps: i'm setting b&s members invites as we speak..hehehe! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Wed Nov 21 23:39:35 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:39:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i know the reason i want to curl up in your room. Message-ID: winter took a break today. instead it just rained a lot and there was a lot of strong wind. and that thing happened too, when you're walking by a puddle and a big truck comes and splashes you. it's not good, i wish all puddles were warm and not cold. that way i wouldn't shout the word "fuck" so loudly. i think i scared some old people, oh well. i only had one lesson today but that was spent drying off. i sat next to the radiator and just looked out of the window all lesson. there's this really ugly building in my town and they've made it even uglier. for christmas they've put this huge picture of a child with a toothless smile on the side of it. i just kept thinking about how much stick that poor kid's going to get at school. they should have spared him, any stranger who comes to this town (why they would want to i have no idea) is just going to head straight back home...which would be the sensible thing. i had a job interview today, i've never actually had a proper job interview before so i didn't really know what to do. the guy who interviewed me was a bit strange. "pete" kept coughing, maybe he was nervous. i wasn't nervous i just didn't know what to do, i don't think i got the job either. every single question he asked was greeted by an initial 'err...well...'. i think i also used the word "umm" 445345 times. i felt really bad afterwards, so i bought cigarettes. i don't smoke, but one of my friends swears that a cigarette can make you feel better. i didn't, instead it just reminded me why i don't like smoking. strange to think how peeople can be addicted to them. after the first one i just gave up and exchanged them with a homeless person for a copy of the big issue. i listened to 'get me away from here...' then. i really do like that song, perhaps it's my favourite b&s song. somebody mentioned the song 'rhoda' in a post the other day, which made me search through my mp3s trying to find it. i really do like that song. i haven't got a good copy of it so instead of have to cope with the speakers vibrating everytime it gets a bit louder. stuart still sounds good, even if he is muffled and the hissing sound is louder than he is. i don't know why but i find myself listening to b&s more around this time of the year. actually, if i could ask a member a question it'd be to any of them...i'd ask if they would release 'rhoda'. my mum's been going to the hospital a lot lately. i don't know why, and whenever i mention it she changes the subject. i think she went again today, she looked really tired when she came home and she had all these plasters on the back of her hands. i know they're supposed to be good for you but there's nothing i hate more in the world than hospitals. maybe because i've spent too much time in them. i wish there would be some way they could be...dirtier. it sends me insane the way everything shines. when you spill something a team of nurses come and clean it up. i appreciate nurses, and doctors. i hope my mum's ok. i'm sure she will be. perhaps i'm just being ultra paranoid and she's got an in growing toe nail. as horrible as it sounds. i remember a boy at my old school who had one of those who took great pleasure in showing everyone in the p.e. changing rooms. he liked it so much he never told his parents because he didn't want them to take him to a hospital. one day during a p.e. lesson someone hurt his foot and he ended up going to hospital. i don't think there's a point to that story, it's just a story. i used up the last page in my sketchbook the other day, it was fun flicking through it and looking at all the other stuff, stuff i'd forgotten about. i think everyone should have something like that just to piss about with. i don't like other people looking at it though, it's personal in anyway, it's just i don't like people looking at it. i was looking at somebody's sketchbook in my english lesson, for her art class. it was strange because they have to use them almost formally. you could tell the person had put a lot of effort into it and yet the tutor wrote (in red ink none the less) "not good enough". there's nothing worse than teacher's comments in red ink, it just marrs everything. what the hell am i going on about? --- i saw in a rachael fruitloop post "Nafees seems like such a tough guy! Even though it was an accident!" that's partly true. it was an accident but i am far from being a tough guy. i run as far away from confrontation as possible. you know the line in that hefner song that goes "usually i like confrontation i do" ? well, that's not me. however i understand what people mean when they said they feel good when they're mentioned in one of those. i was reading my e-mail in the media study area at college and i began to laugh. when i asked why i replied "oh i was in a fruitloop post", the person looked suitably bemused. i don't why it's good, perhaps it's because everybody likes acknowledgment. my two cents (or pence) worth about the magnetic fields: i like them, they're good. not amazing but nice none the less. i can understand why people don't like them solely of the merits of merritt (boom boom), but i've never seen them/him live so i wouldn't know. i do like the white stripes, they make me tap my foot and walk a little bit faster. i was reading a will oldham interview and he was saying that perhaps people would enjoy stuff more if they were more focused on the product and not the person or people. i think i agree, perhaps that's why i haven't not, not enjoyed any music recently. actually no. that robbie williams thing the other day, i had to turn over. i have only fond memories of the royal albert hall and i intend to keep them that way. worst pick-up line? well, i don't know if it's a line but once me and my friend were at a bar, standing at the bar. and some guy goes to my friend "you're lucky", to which my friend replies "why?", man goes "because i'm here", my friend goes "oh...ok" then turns round. it was just funny the way my friend ignored his feeble attempts. i would of felt sorry for him if i didn't see him trying it on other people. --- this post's been rather crap, for which i apologise. i feel i should end with a crap joke, patient: "doctor, it hurts whenever i touch my body" doctor: "that's because you've broken all your fingers" take care, nafees. p.s. the new jim o'rourke album is rather good. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Nov 22 10:22:20 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:22:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: steering locks are around Message-ID: Hello, I was driving along the road a couple of nights ago, still fantastically tired after all the fun and way too much exercise last weekend, very tired indeed. So tired I was in a semi-delusional state, it wasn't long before my stereo started speaking to me.. "Ken, the fashion brigade look with curious eyes on your raggedy way and for once in your life you have nothing to say, and could this be the time when somebody will come to say 'look at yourself, you're not much use to anyone'?" "Probably", Ken replied. "Take a walk in the park, take a valium pill, read the letter you got from the memory girl, but it takes more than this to make sense of the day. Yeah it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste" Then I started thinking about all these weird e-mails I read that all begin with the word "Sinister:", and I wonder if it took more than these to make sense of my day. The stereo wouldn't stop babbling on, about people living far away from the place, how my efforts to help were a bit of a waste.. I felt my eyes were watering slightly. I think I was too tired to contain myself. "Now the trouble is over, everybody got paid. Everybody is happy, they are glad that they came, then you go to the place where you've finally found you can look at yourself sleep the clock around." the stereo continued. Emotions just overcome me and all I wanted to do was forget about the world and sleep around the clock whilst dreaming of the happy times. Then the stereo said, "Ken watch out for that car in front of you!" and I slammed on the brakes of my car, which woke me up. Guess what, I was late for work the next day, cos I overslept. Bloody stereo. James Gilmer talked a lot last time about pastiche, I had no idea what pastiche meant so I looked in the dictionary, and I was still none the wiser. But apparently Magnetic Field songs are pastiches and that everyone can do it, I certainly hope more people will write pastiches in that case. People who are deadpan on stage lack a sense of humour. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: 33 days til Christmas! That's *less* than 34 days away!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Nov 22 10:34:24 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:34:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: steering locks are round Message-ID: Hello, I was driving along the road a couple of nights ago, still fantastically tired after all the fun and way too much exercise last weekend, very tired indeed. So tired I was in a semi-delusional state, it wasn't long before my stereo started speaking to me.. "Ken, the fashion brigade look with curious eyes on your raggedy way and for once in your life you have nothing to say, and could this be the time when somebody will come to say 'look at yourself, you're not much use to anyone'?" "Probably", Ken replied. "Take a walk in the park, take a valium pill, read the letter you got from the memory girl, but it takes more than this to make sense of the day. Yeah it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste" Then I started thinking about all these weird e-mails I read that all begin with the word "Sinister:", and I wonder if it took more than these to make sense of my day. The stereo wouldn't stop babbling on, about people living far away from the place, how my efforts to help were a bit of a waste.. I felt my eyes were watering slightly. I think I was too tired to contain myself. "Now the trouble is over, everybody got paid. Everybody is happy, they are glad that they came, then you go to the place where you've finally found you can look at yourself sleep the clock around." the stereo continued. Emotions just overcome me and all I wanted to do was forget about the world and sleep around the clock whilst dreaming of the happy times. Then the stereo said, "Ken watch out for that car in front of you!" and I slammed on the brakes of my car, which woke me up. Guess what, I was late for work the next day, cos I overslept. Bloody stereo. James Gilmer talked a lot last time about pastiche, I had no idea what pastiche meant so I looked in the dictionary, and I was still none the wiser. But apparently Magnetic Field songs are pastiches and that everyone can do it, I certainly hope more people will write pastiches in that case. People who are deadpan on stage lack a sense of humour. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: 33 days til Christmas! That's *less* than 34 days away!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob at xxx.uk Thu Nov 22 11:50:00 2001 From: rob at xxx.uk (Rob) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Florida (Is Shaped Like a Big Droopy Dick for a Reason) Message-ID: <3BFCE668.12880.D50DA4@localhost> I've been looking at a really good website for indie bands, but I can't remember where I came across it. If was here, thanks to whoever recommended it - if it wasn't, well you can thank me in whatever way you feel is appropriate. It's www.epitonic.com and they have loads of legal mp3s to download - usually a couple per band. Their list of bands is pretty impressive and there are links to similar bands. My subject line comes from a song by a band called Cex - I have to listen to it simply because of the title. You have to give an email address after you've downloaded a few songs, but so far all I've had from them is an interesting newsletter with some new songs listed (eg they've just got Arab Strap's 'Motown Answers'). Bye all -- Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Thu Nov 22 13:27:42 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:27:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I'm waking up to Union Message-ID: <20011122132742.A1FBB3ECC@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Nov 22 13:51:47 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Slap the Clowes around Message-ID: <20011122135147.22811.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Hello... Melmoz from Texas said: "please, don't sing the theme song to the show 'Dallas'" 'Dallas' was a pile of poo (unlike the city of Dallas which I'm sure is fantastic) and was always imported into the UK on very poor quality tape. I hated that show but the theme music is one the grate-est theme tunes ever! Right up there with the Rockford Files. People have been talking about teachers who liked B&S. While living in various shared houses I would often find myself under the same roof as a teacher. The majority of them seemed to like B&S except for one I REALLY fancied. But that's another (unhappy) story. On a lighter note - Robin with an 'i' said: "Jonathan King's being sent to prison! Hooray!" Should've happened years ago - No Limits was a crime against humanity. Robin with an 'i' and a few other people also said: "Ghost World" I do sooo want to see this. I love the comic book. Terry Zwigoff's film 'Crumb' is well worth a look too. Robyn with a 'y' said: "i think the roberts & robi/yns should *team up*. and forget all this mix tape stuff; we're more the hand-to-hand combat types" I'm a lover not a fighter. I'm all for ditching mix-tapes though. CD burning's the way to go kids. Let's start by burning any remaining recordings by Jonathan King. Robster http://robster75.tripod.com PS... The lyric competition from several posts ago: Jason McKinnon got the correct answer (Piece of dirt - TMBG) first. Prizes are delayed due to my pooter being poorly. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mairaefabio at xxx.br Mon Nov 19 02:50:51 2001 From: mairaefabio at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Snoozer/_Ma=EDra_Ezequiel?=) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:50:51 -0200 Subject: Sinister: offtopic: tape requests Message-ID: <016901c170a5$20bc2340$bf7dc7c8@mxyzptlk> Sorry to bother you Sinister List, but this way is easier to get in touch with everyone. The thing is: I Need Help!!!! There are 16 addresses so far and perhaps i'm going to receive more. Some lovely people offered me the greatest trades i could ever get, but the fact is: they're too many for me to send. I've sent a mail to a friend who works in the Central Post Office and i'm still waiting for a reply, but i don't think it will be cheap to send all these tapes. Still, I DO want to send tapes to everyone. ;) But I need some kind of help. For example, there are some people from same countries (Sweden, US, Scotland) and even some from the same States (Texas, Michigan,...), so if some of you could also copy the tapes for yourselves it would leave one tape for me to send to each region of the world. Another important thing is: some of you gave me the tip of the video format used in Europe, that are different from the US. Well, i really need more information on that, because brazilian VCRs come with both formats: NTSC and PALM. But are you from Europe, Japan and New Zealand really sure you'll be able to watch the tape??? Please, if you know anybody who deals with electronics, get some info about these formats. And last, but not least, for the ones who asked about how to send money (this way you don't need to send anything in return of course): you have to find out if there's a Banco do Brasil agency where you live, or, if your bank has some conection with this federal brazilian bank. I know that there's plenty of agencies around the world, but i don't know where. If you find out, i'll pass the numbers and then i can send the tapes immediately. Woof! I don't wanna sound like everything's too difficult. I'll stick to the Beatles: WE CAN WORK IT OUT! :.)))) Here are all the people who sent me addresses. The complete address is not here for obvious reasons (you didn't allow me to). i promise i'll keep in touch and until the end of this month (it means next week) i'm sending at least 2 tapes for two different region. bye, Fabio Snoozer, listening to new Stereolab!!!!!!!! David Clark Auckland New Zealand. Daniel Cederberg Stockholm SWEDEN Carmel Wright Seattle, WA 98136 USA Lisa Holton Austin TX 78757 USA Megan Irwin Seattle, WA 98125 USA SANTI TRULLENQUE BARCELONA SPAIN yumiko yokoo nishi-ku, fukuoka japan Astrid Wiezell Nacka Sweden Jamie Gray SCOTLAND KY12 0XF Shawn Krueger Grand Rapids, MI 49503 Amy Longcore Newaygo, MI 49337 USA Patrick Doyle AB55 5AR Scotland Ernie Sanchez Country CA 91351 USA andrew churchman Manasquan, NJ 08736 ALAN WHYTE SCOTLAND(UK) KA20 4EZ Sulman Mirza Texas 77379 USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk Thu Nov 22 15:01:11 2001 From: Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk (Doyle Patrick) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:01:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:08:00 -0000 Message-ID: Hello everyone Patrick here, Sorry but this is the last time I will be able to reply to any e-mails that anyone sends me until Monday, as that is the next time I have a free period and can get on to the computer again. I cant wait to read them though!!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Nov 22 15:07:06 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:07:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Some thinking going on Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F80680BEB@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> Hey up sinister. Things have changed a bit round here since I last posted properly, which is probably why I fancy having a go. I'm not really the type to be struck with random thoughts, and I haven't had a Sinister dream in a long time. sinister dreams I can do - there are shadows ("on me lungs?") on the ceiling which are decidedly non-scary but my mind fucks shit up and I wake up, staring at the shadows, and my bedroom becomes a place of terror and loathing (as any girls who've been in there would agree, boom boom). Only for a few minutes. Though. I've developed permanent neckache from using my computer while lying on my bed. I have to stare perpetually to the right. Can you get RSI without moving? I can, but then I'm an old fucker. Gosh, it feels good to swear today. Though I did call Jennifer Lopez a cunt earlier without meaning to - it just slipped out. I meant to say "cow". No-one heard. They seldom do. I followed Daf's link to Stuart's writing, and while it's not the most profound thing I've ever read (cf. the sleevenotes to the records - verging on the twee, but nice all the same) there's a cosiness about them which makes it a pleasure to spend a few moments perusing, and coming away feeling like one more decent thing has happened in the world. I'm looking forward to reading more. It's a really sound website they've got there now - it makes you feel good, it's unpretentious, and it's Belle and Sebastian. A big plus in anyone's book. This kind of lazy Sunday writing style I seem to have picked up is probably a result of Stuart's prose influencing the subconscious. Writers do that to me - Stephen Fry the most obviously, JK Rowling not at all, Joseph Heller affects my thinking processes rather than the way I speak. Still, lazy Sunday is better than moody fucker, which is how the rest of the day's been spent - now that blessed redundancy is in the offing (a Sinister disease, that redundancy), I'm Not Working Hard Enough, as the piles on my arse, erm, desk make evident. Not working hard makes me sad, but as with so many things, only I can sort it out. What a con. I used to do the stream of consciousness thing a lot on Sinister, but nowadays I just lurk. Still, I'm only a dozen digests behind now, so maybe things are taking an upturn. I even socialised the other day! Chu was there, of course. As was the flighty Ben Apps, the sultry SGS and the exquisitely cheekboned JDH. And Paul and his midfield Skeez. Sinister's still the place to be. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mclaudia at xxx.br Thu Nov 22 15:35:00 2001 From: mclaudia at xxx.br (Claudia) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:35:00 -0200 Subject: Sinister: offtopic: tape requests In-Reply-To: <016901c170a5$20bc2340$bf7dc7c8@mxyzptlk> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011122132847.00a40830@pop.openlink.com.br> Let's see if this helps... On www.bb.com.br there's a link "international business" and the addresses for the Banco do Brasil agencies worldwide... The site has an English version bye bye Claudia At 00:50 19/11/01 -0200, you wrote: >Sorry to bother you Sinister List, but this way is easier to get in touch >with everyone. >The thing is: I Need Help!!!! >There are 16 addresses so far and perhaps i'm going to receive more. >Some lovely people offered me the greatest trades i could ever get, but the >fact is: they're too many for me to send. I've sent a mail to a friend who >works in the Central Post Office and i'm still waiting for a reply, but i >don't think it will be cheap to send all these tapes. >Still, I DO want to send tapes to everyone. ;) But I need some kind of >help. For example, there are some people from same countries (Sweden, US, >Scotland) and even some from the same States (Texas, Michigan,...), so if >some of you could also copy the tapes for yourselves it would leave one tape >for me to send to each region of the world. >Another important thing is: some of you gave me the tip of the video format >used in Europe, that are different from the US. Well, i really need more >information on that, because brazilian VCRs come with both formats: NTSC and >PALM. But are you from Europe, Japan and New Zealand really sure you'll be >able to watch the tape??? Please, if you know anybody who deals with >electronics, get some info about these formats. >And last, but not least, for the ones who asked about how to send money >(this way you don't need to send anything in return of course): you have to >find out if there's a Banco do Brasil agency where you live, or, if your >bank has some conection with this federal brazilian bank. I know that >there's plenty of agencies around the world, but i don't know where. If you >find out, i'll pass the numbers and then i can send the tapes immediately. >Woof! I don't wanna sound like everything's too difficult. I'll stick to the >Beatles: WE CAN WORK IT OUT! :.)))) >Here are all the people who sent me addresses. The complete address is not >here for obvious reasons (you didn't allow me to). > >i promise i'll keep in touch and until the end of this month (it means next >week) i'm sending at least 2 tapes for two different region. > >bye, >Fabio Snoozer, listening to new Stereolab!!!!!!!! > >David Clark >Auckland >New Zealand. > >Daniel Cederberg >Stockholm >SWEDEN > >Carmel Wright >Seattle, WA 98136 >USA > >Lisa Holton >Austin TX 78757 >USA > >Megan Irwin >Seattle, WA 98125 >USA > >SANTI TRULLENQUE >BARCELONA >SPAIN > >yumiko yokoo >nishi-ku, fukuoka >japan > >Astrid Wiezell >Nacka >Sweden > >Jamie Gray >SCOTLAND >KY12 0XF > >Shawn Krueger >Grand Rapids, MI 49503 > >Amy Longcore >Newaygo, MI 49337 >USA > >Patrick Doyle >AB55 5AR >Scotland > >Ernie Sanchez >Country CA 91351 >USA > >andrew churchman >Manasquan, NJ 08736 > >ALAN WHYTE >SCOTLAND(UK) >KA20 4EZ > >Sulman Mirza >Texas 77379 >USA > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Thu Nov 22 15:43:03 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:43:03 EST Subject: Sinister: for which we are truly thankful Message-ID: <16d.45978be.292e7707@cs.com> Well the one good thing that came out of this Thanksgiving day already is that I have pulled out my copy of Tigermilk which has been sitting getting badly scratched up for the last several months :D So far so good there are no major skipping problems... I'm going out for a buffet lunch/dinner thing today at this local catering place. Some of my friends work there maybe they can slip me some pumkin pie "under the table" or something. This year I suppose that all it would take to make me truly happy would be an east coast B&S tour, but since that's already been discussed here to some length I'll let it be. Have a nice Thanksgiving day everyone even those not in the U.S. yeah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Thu Nov 22 17:38:39 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:38:39 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Question: A I allowed writing for the list? Message-ID: <20011122173839.920D9277C8@mx02.osite.com.br> It's it. Roberto +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Thu Nov 22 19:30:18 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:30:18 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S brazilian gig, as a first message... and, in the end, a "I am really sorry" message. Message-ID: <20011122193018.4DF9C278CB@mx02.osite.com.br> I am from Brazil. Precisely from Rio de Janeiro. And, of course, I was there at the Belle & Sebastian gig at Free Jazz Festival (although I must admit there was almost nothing could be precisely nominated as "jazz" in the cast). After a short Sygur R�s presentation, after which the brains of the audience felt confortably melted, everyone started singing "The State I Am In" as if it was the national anthem, with hands on chest. I thought B&S fans in Brazil were, as I am, a little more discreet and introspective. When the show started, a guy on the left start yellin' the lyrics in Sepultura style, guturally. He didn't care about the melody at all, and cared a few about metrics: he just wanted to prove to everyone around that, although he had a terrible lack of musical talent, had spent about 20 hours a day in front of the stereo, so he could memorize every single line of every single song. When Steve started playing the horn, so that we all realized that "Me and the Major" was on its way, I had to run away, because the same guy started jumping like a monkey. Uau, he was in a speed metal gig in his mind!... I squeezed myself through the crowd, so I reached the other side, we're I would be safe. At this point, I saw a group of girls who, on the other hand, didn't know anything of what was happening on stage. They were just glancing aroung, adjusting their tight skirts and heavy make-up, looking for true love, I guess. By the time "Don't Leave the Light on Baby" begun, they were flirting with a group of sympathetic guys, including me. I was too much focused to pay attention to them, but I have to admit they were preety beautiful! I simply wasn't in the mood for any extra activity: just watching the show carefully, so I could always make a mind visitation to that moment of my life and experiment that feelings all over again: the excitation, the groove, the anxiety for not knowing what could come next in the setlist. I had to keep'em, because there is a strong possibilty the band will never come to my country again. When I turned back to the girls, "The Boy with the Arab Strap" was in the middle, and they were dancing with their brand new pairs. I felt a sincere happiness: they were not there for a B&S show at all, but, even then, the reached their objective. Touching... "Fox in the Snow" was the emotional peak of the night. There were other highlights. The girls-who-found-love in front of me loved when the band covered Caetano Veloso's "Baby" in a perfect arrangement and "Minha Menina", a classic with Os Mutantes. Finally something they could sing aloud!! By the way, does anyone know if Sarah Martin has ever spoken portuguese before??? She sang amazingly well! After the show, headed home. It was thursday, and the office was waiting for me the following day. What else could I do? But I confess I hardly slept that night... Uff!! HOw hard it is to write the first text to a list! I felt obliged to say something about B&S. Promise I will be more original and personal on next messages. * * * * another thing * * * * I am sorry for the "test message" that went before this one. My younger brother was on command of the computer and I asked him to send a message for the list, saying something nice, in order to test my inclusion in it. He just perpetrated this bad, bad, bad joke and didn't think about the consequences it could have for me and my reception, as a foreing element, in Sinister. So sorry, sorry and sorry again. As someone said to me sooner, as a comment, "we take the list we make" - or something similar. I belive that too. Roberto +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anaivaklam at xxx.br Fri Nov 23 00:56:36 2001 From: anaivaklam at xxx.br (Ana Ribeiro) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:56:36 -0200 Subject: Sinister: This is just a hello e-mail anyways... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011122225631.009f70c0@pop3.uol.com.br> Or at least I'll try to. Hi sinister people, I'm Ana, 18-years-old brazilian girl (hmn, what else??)... I love belle and sebastian (well, that's pretty obvious...), even though I like many other stuff, sp. metal, people think it's weird to love the sweetest thing, B&S, and at the same time love really hard songs, reeeeeally hard. But that's me.... I do economics at University of Brasilia, it's lovely and boring and exciting at the same time, well, this is just a weird course but...... hmn... I'm doing this french play "Les fous du paradis" (the mad people of paradise, or something like that) that really takes all my free time, but that's good... going to present it this december, think it's december 4, 5 and 6, but I'm not sure ... got my driver's licence two days ago and I'm driving all the time, love to. I thought it would be cool to introduce myself, so when I want to post something you won't be all like "who the hell is she anyways?"... Hmn, I think that's it, I feel like asking if I'm the only brazilian here (or the only one from Brasília), yes, it's asked then, even though it's nothing but this-second-curiosity... of course I'm not the only one, 'cos Fabio is from Brazil too... and I must agree with him that Multishow (the TV station that broadcasted B&S's Rio's concert) sucks... and Stevie's portuguese isn't only funny... rather cute, he really tried to do something pretty good, that was sweet. Take care, Ana PS: Wrote that listening to Jonathan David, it's lovely. "You don't get something for nothing You can't have freedom for free You won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes No matter what your dreams might be" (Rush, Anthem) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 01:43:50 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:43:50 -0600 Subject: Sinister: what's new Message-ID: <6CC0CA517273DE4428418CCD6455ACE2@chinacat81.wildmail.com> it does feel good to be brave. yes, and sometimes people surprise you.....sometimes you're expecting a scowl and a red face and a loud voice, and what you get is someone who listens and asks questions quietly....and calls you "pumpkin." oh yes, pumpkin. no pie for me... thanksgiving....i came down with a bad headache around three o'clock and took to my room for the remainder of the evening. around five, my sister and my cousins and my puppy came pouring in and jumped on me in my bed and tried to wake me up, and i tried to be fun but my neck hurt just horribly so i stayed there under my blankets and had a strange dream about a white- haired girl who was constantly powdering her face. i think i went to high school with her, but never really knew her. it's funny, the things lodged in the back of our minds...i can't imagine why i dreamt about that girl. when i finally woke up, it was dark outside. i went downstairs and the relatives were all sitting around the big table in tweed trousers and wool sweaters, laughing and picking at the remains of the evening's feast...butternut soup and roasted potatoes, brined turkey...the candlelight reflecting off their rosy faces, off the wine bottles, off the windows. if i'd had a camera, i could have taken a nice photograph for an eddie bauer catalog. or bon apetit. something. i ate some green beans and a slice of bread and i had another beer, and then i was very full and the relatives all went home, and i thought about how holidays used to be such a big deal. i think they probably still could be, but not because they're holidays....you know? i don't know. today wasn't the best, but things are looking rather good. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 04:34:27 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:34:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Champaign for my real friends... Message-ID: ...and real pain for my sham friends. To be brutally honest, I don't usually have much time for Thanksgiving. I'm not much of a holiday person to begin with, and Thanksgiving really doesn't have the same spark as Santy Claus day does, but what the hell. I got to spend today with my family, some of whom I don't care for much, and others that I couldn't live without. I got to see my niece today, and a more brilliant 12 year old I'd be hard pressed to name. We talked about music and Harry Potter and her track team and she beat me in a race to the end of the block. She also told me the card I sent her, a card with a sketch of Christopher Robin and Pooh on the cover I sent her from Belgium this summer, is proudly hanging in her locker at school. So, I suppose I do have a lot to be thankfull for. A brilliant niece, good family, patient parents, and the best friends I could wish for. I'd rather have them here with me, as I type this, my monthly cigarette dangling from my mouth and the buzz of a few RB&V's fading away. But some of them are at their families, and some of them are scattered across the county, and some of them are even scattered across the world. If there's ever a time I doubt myself, or feel a bit down, the one thing I can do is look around at my friends, and I know anyone who can have the collection of friends I have isn't all bad. If the measure of a man is his friends, then all I can say is that I must have done *something* right in a past life to deserve my friends, and not a day goes by when I'm grateful for the lot of them. So, if you'll forgive me a bit of a soft moment, I'm feeling extremely grateful to all the wonderful friends I have and I have made, and I don't say lightly that if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be here. Anyways, a toast to all my friends, on the list and off, because it's the day to give thanks to the things that are important to us, and nothing could ever be more important than friends. A good deal of them aren't on the list, but to the ones that are, cheers. A tip of the glass especially to Laura Llew, Kirsten, Emily and Sean, Amy Longcore, Amy Bancroft, Sean and his sweetheart (the sister I *wish* I had) Elise Spry, ~stine, and to the whole bloody lot of you: Happy Thanksgiving. There, I promise the next post will see me back to my old cursing, cynical self. Cheers! Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 09:14:00 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com (Daplyn Elizabeth) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I am not a rock band Message-ID: <8CE702C232760243B95B5ADBE849E3474BB9C5@CWMBSMAIL01.eu.thmulti.com> ...but I R!O!C!K! the house. No, really, I do. Ask anyone. Anyone who was around these parts back in the days of yore when I occasionally posted, that is. I've been here off and on since before I was universally challenged, which is a good five years now. Crikey. Still, entering the ranks of (temporary) corporate whoredom (oo-er Ms) has the advantage of free email, as does having a desk at which no-one can overlook what I'm doing on my computer. So, emerging from the nursery once more like a sartorially-challenged butterfly, here I am. People who were loafing around Camden last Saturday will have seen me, myself and my big black jumper inhabiting the pub for a few hours. It's funny how recently I've been regressing to my adolescent practice of dressing nearly entirely in black, but with rather less of a crippling sense of self-consciousness. Still acutely self-conscious, just not crippled by it anymore - only mildly sprained, as Minnie Driver said in Grosse Point Blank. Anyway, good pubnic, y'all. I still want to know who was using yer man Ken's buttocks as a pillow later that night, though. Curse Shepherd's Bush and all its housewarming parties! Will Salt (or Salty Will - heh - an epithet surely applicable to an ancient bluesman of the highest stamp) = very blond, no? It occurred to me while supping a tasty pint of apple derivative on Saturday that (from my own observations) Sinister is predominantly brunette, unless there are hordes of platinum starlets out therre who haven't been showing themselves. After all, the best looking girls might _well_ be staying at home ;P However, this means that I call on Miss Juicy Lucy Alder to once again renounce her more-or-less natural hair colour and hit the bleach in order to redress this balance somewhat. I would, but my hair is alarming enough without making it light up at night. To segue non-secretarially: Anyone (with better-than-average taste) who heard tompaulin in session on John Peel the other night will have been thrilled by their wry loveliness. Is there *by any chance* anyone in the house who can tell us if there is any associated product available for us to waste our pocket money on? I have my suspicions... It's odd, but no matter what combination of twisty reggae, twee techno, and wailings of skinny boys lamenting their lovelessness that Mr Peel plays of an evening, I never fail to be soothed, unlike the effect of the medulla-crushing arse (now _there's_ an arresting visual, if you like) that is currently spewing out of the office radio. John Peel should be marketed as a comforting blanket. No, wait, he already is... Vandalised bus shelters are, conversely, not reminiscent of comforting blankets at all. They can be startlingly beautiful, though, what with scattered cubes of safety glass scattered around ('Hackney diamonds', I read somewhere) or crazed mandala patterns radiating from the focal points of not-quite-hard-enough blows and looking like imitations of gorgeous spiderwebs laid down by secret crafty hands. But it might just be me that likes them. I've spent considerably more than 15 minutes composing this, as I was dragged off to a BIG GROWNUP MEETING halfway through. Criminy! Deathless prose it ain't, but I'll inflict it on you anyway. Love and shenanigins, Liz D :x *i think that i shall never see a person lovely as a tree* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 10:44:21 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:44:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The boy with the Alphabet Soup Message-ID: A rob B and mark C and liz D all posted, what a jubil-E. F-in hell, liz talked about the hackney diamonds, well i got some on monday too. some smart arse thought he was well ghetto and ali-G, and thought it would be a grrreat idea to smash up one of the windows in my car, well let me tell you punk: that idea was so crap that even H from steps would never think of it. grr, it was a bit crap but I wasn't too miffed really it was only a small window, unlike the bottom of J-lo. as kirsten K said, "it wasn't the best but things were looking rather good." or as laura L said, "i love ken very much". wait, she never said that but i just made it up to lead me onto the next letter, in the stylee of emin-M, or maybe N-sync, but definitely not O-town cos that's pish with a capital P. You'd think now I'd have a problem fitting in the letter Q but see how I cunningly avoided the quandary? cunning at d.d.R., cunning at everything as they say, as they say, not hear'say, not S club 7 either. i want a T-shirt that says U.s.a. are V. good on it, then I can send it to george W. bush, who would say "lemme tell ya, agent X, this kenneth p Y is very wise", or would he spell wise with a Z? mental hospitals and red bulls ken p.s.: can't you see i need a holiday? why don't we have thanks giving. we can call it "cheers mate" giving.. wouldn't it be great if people say "cheers mate" in chess rather than checkmate? or daleks, imagine all those little cutie robots go around saying "cheers mate" rather than exterminate. The PRML SCRM album will then have to be called CHRSMT, which can almost spell Christmas. I can't wait til Christmas!!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 11:12:53 2001 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (Joan of Dark) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:12:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: march goodness by the sea /Athenian PiCnIc Message-ID: well well well..... Just WHO else could it be in this cruelly small hour in the morning?? *yaawn* me myself, springing up from my lurkedom to light up the sinister skies like a firework soon to burn out, only to follow up dahling's post, and after taking my turn, announcing the 1st official Sinister PicNic in AtHeNs-GrEeCe in March.... 1)People DO come..... I know this is a reason good enough in itself, but i shall explain in more detail in the lines to follow.... 2)I think the date Stacey chose for is just perfect...the weather starts getting mild here and the whole scenery gets unbearably beautiful, the air so sweet and the sky SO blue... But even if there is any sudden drastic change in the weather forecasts, we can always have the eating and the drinking held indoors, that is... a)either Stacey's appartment (so you get to listen to the bunch of ex-heroin addicts screaming their lungs out every evening howling their names to each other and the moon... Nikos:"EIMAI O NIKOOOOOOS!!!" the rest of the bunch: "KAI O NIKOS EINAI KALAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!" translation: I AM NIIIIICK! NICK IS OK AS WEEEEEEL!!!! tempting , doesn't it sound?? ;o) b)or my house -i have my very own floor now in the house- and we can throw empty beer cans and garbage in my hateful neighbours' swimming pool.....hehehe....once i had thought about throwing a bucket of red paint, the kind that is used in cooking, in their pool and watch them next morning when they'd come out in their garden... I haven't carried this out yet but ....with a little help from my friends???...;o) 3)...so if you come here you can do bad bad things with me as well... not with Stacey...she's an angel in this briery patch of land.... 4)here are SO many cool little places we can go to, either for records, coffee, food or dancing,drinking,acting,silly passing out.... As Stacey had once said...there is an uncovered Greek indie scene, another world lurking in the shadows and you'd never believe the kind of people you might see sometimes when you go out in the night... I don't either... If we are lucky enough a concert might occur as well and that is well.....the best thing that could ever happen to us... Last year Teenage Fanclub played here in March...lets see what we get this year... 5)I leave all financial details and logistics(tickets, airports, beer prices etc)to Stacey as numbers is not my strong point and i think I will involve myself mostly in the accomodation/entertainment/mapping sort of thing.... I know some pretty good youth hostels for the ones that'd like to be a bit more independent and i can provide information to anyone who might ask for it , or try and find places for people to stay although i think Stacey's house and mine are enough... I can have one or two girls here at my house (sorry for the sex restriction but i still live with my parents you see and eeehh...you know....sorry) stacey said: >i flew a cheap charter flight to london (air2000..eek!) and it was AWFUL. and I say: people DO avoid this one.... it i smore commonly known among greek students that study in the UK and fly to and fro all the time as "Death (not in Vegas,but)2000" so i suppose this makes things pretty clear... 6)the place we've chosen for is just perfect, really, it is very close to my house, like 2 minutes on foot and its SO quiet and secluded, yet quite easy to reach as there are two nearby bus stops and another 3 in 5 minutes' walking distance....( I'll provide the maps as i said) very green, tall trees, some stray friendly dogs , you know the usual kind of stuff.... grass blades and ladybirds and babybirds and ants in your pants, bugs in your bags...eerrrmm.....ok I'll stop... as well as an abandoned, huuuuge fountain that is usually filled with water... And we'll be spared the trouble of all sorts of wankers lurking around and tourists and silly kids and all the noise and nonsense of other parks..not that there are so many anyway... so ummm......i think that's enough of enticement already really.... I expect REPLIES YOU KNOW!!! otherwise I'll start threatening, bullying and bugging you and I'm quite good at this latter one!! and you get to meet 4 in 1!! No other product can promise you such spectacular results! OnE: Stacey the Dahling one ( may i call you Spacey from SpaCe, the outer, Stacey??) TwO: Joan, always of the Dark ThReE: Dimitra the ZoZ FoUr: Broccoli, the Green that's all from me, i'm out PS: Mr Brier Random, is there any random chance you'd honour us with your presence???? pleeeeeaase? ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* keep the love lights glowing - little girl's got the blues ~Sonic Youth-Tunic >From: "stacey dahling" >Reply-To: "stacey dahling" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: march goodness by the sea under the sweet grecian >sun..for you? >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:08:01 +0000 > >ok folks >call me mad, but i'm going ahead and planning an athenian picnic >a few MONTHS in advance >but i'm doing this so that all you wacky brits can take advantage of some >FAB cheapo airfare while it's till cheapo >and so you can submit your holiday requests and all that fun stuff (aren't >i >sooo practical?) >anyway, the date i have fixed on is: > >SUNDAY, MARCH 24 > >if this is problemmatic for anyone who had planned on coming, let me know >and we'll do something creative maybe. >for everyone else, write it in your calendars >yes! >um and email me if you are even considering coming. > >LOGISTICS (including and followed by ENTICEMENTS): > >easyjet has insanely cheap flights right now. the sooner you book the >better >because the prices increase randomly. >i suggest you make a proper holiday of it and come for a week. i'll be >happy >to put you up or find you cheap accomodations (everything is pretty cheap >here) and will entertain you and show you all the sites. >here's what i found: > >from london luton to athens, tuesday, march 19, 27 quid >from athens to london on monday, march 25 or tuesday, march 26, 22 quid >(both fares at www.easyjet.com) > >flew easyjet back to athens and it was actually quite fab! nice new plane, >lots of room, the stewerdesses were always available but didn't hassle you. >it's a 4-hour flight. >http://www.geocities.com/dahling007 > >ok..as for enticements: >1) huge bottles of beer for 20p! >2) lovely weather and no tourists!! BEAUTIFUL blue skies and all that >postcard-perfect stuff. >3) joanna and i have chosen the perfect spot already: a park near an >abandoned airport with lush green grass that no one else goes to. PLUS it's >by the sea!!! so after we eat and drink to silliness we can walk along the >beach. mmmm. >4) several sinisterenes on week-long holidays means more than one day of >drinking fun. it means endless fun. it means late nights eating cheap yummy >YUMMY food and drinking cheap yummy wine at a rembetika taverna >(traditional >greek jazz); starlight walks among ancient ruins; ISLAND JAUNTS! yes. and >parties at the shack's shag shack itself... in the old brothel district. >awwwwww shit. >5) all this is super cheap.. like, less than 300 quid. probably less than >200 quid. >6) you get to meet MOI (and get guided tours by a real live classicist) and >joanna and dimitra and probably mr. broccoli. > >um... do you really need much enticement to take a grecian holiday??? > >anyway...email me! >lyns, sunny rachel, danny... i know you're interested. anyone else? > >waiting... >~dahling > >ps: i'm setting b&s members invites as we speak..hehehe! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gg0u9220 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 23 12:05:23 2001 From: gg0u9220 at xxx.uk (ROBERT DONLAN) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:05:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 'You'll need more than a glass of wine...shes not that kind of girl' Message-ID: <704462.1006517123@pc248031.pctc.liv.ac.uk> Hello, Today in Liverpool the weather is quite nice. Windy. Very Windy. But still nice. Did anyone see that programme the other nite about the history of house music? It was really good. The best bit was when Shaun Ryder turned up to add a few comments. He is so funny. He doesnt even try but he is so funny. He seemed to love the fact people had sex in the corners of the Hacienda. But then he would, wouldnt he. I felt shit this morning i have had a bad few weeks. I put The Boy with the Arab Strap on, sang along and jesus i feel so much better. I dont thing my mood has ever changed so quickly. It was a good thing. Someone mentioned the Magnetic fields, ive been enjoying playing their songs on my guitar a lot. They are all really simple. My favourites at the minute are Nothing Matters When Were Dancing and The Night You Cant Remember. If i was trying to get on Jools Holland, i would say... 'Ive wanted to watch Jools Holland for ages and this week i thought would be a good week to come because that twat Jamiroqui isn't on' It might just work. Laters Simple Troubadour. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Nov 23 12:42:30 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:42:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: One more wee gig... Message-ID: <00dd01c1741c$77699900$2806fd3e@neil> We've decided to slip an another gig before christmas. It's another cheridee bash (although we don't like to talk about it), and it will be taking place at the Queen Margaret Union on Thursday 20th December. We will be giving all the cash to the Red Cross to help with the Afghan Humanitarian Aid effort. Tickets are £10, and are available NOW from Way Ahead on 0141 339 8383. Tickets will be available from the QM towards the end of next week. Sorry if this is a bit vague, but it's a bit of a rush job. While the Belles will be trying their best to entertain you, it should be noted that it is highly likely the set will consist of a lot of peculiar stuff, covers etc, possibly on a seasonal tip. Who knows? We're also going to try and get some decent DJs in, and have a wee dance afterwards. Just a bit of christmas fun y'know? That's it. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Fri Nov 23 15:53:16 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:53:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: news just in ... Message-ID: <02a001c17437$4784e6c0$9426fea9@katrina> Richard Colburn is to DJ @ SMILE (8th Birthday Party) Saturday 01st Dec 2001 The Star & Garter Fairfield St Piccadilly Manchester 0161 273 6726 10pm - 3am Admission £2 / £3 cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 16:36:15 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:36:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the turkey and pants report Message-ID: <20011123163615.30604.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> Hello fellow thanks-givers, Turkey, such a delicious bird. I has a piece of one yesterday, which was quite possibly the best turkey I'd ever eaten. Usually my mom (who's otherwise a very good cook) makes the holiday bird, and she cooks the bejabbers out of it. It turns out tasty, but dr-r-r-y. This time, someone else cooked the bird, and wow. Wowie wow wow, was this turkey moist. Tender and juicy. I wish it was ours so we could revel in the moist leftovers, but our friends got to keep it, as they'd purchased and cooked it. Man. That would've been one hell of a sammich. **Bonus recipie: Best T-G Leftover Sammich Ever** White bread Mayo/Miracle Whip/Butter Turkey Cranberry relish, spread thin on top of mayo Thinkly sliced red onion Dark green lettuce or spinich = one damn good sandwich ******************************** Pants. A lot of us think about how our pants fit around these holiday times of overeating. Maybe some older ones of us have special overeating pants, complete with 52-inch elastic waist, extra buttons, and balloon seat. I have had the opposite problem as of late. All of my pants are mysteriously getting bigger. At first it was subtle, and I thought they'd stretched out between washes, as many pants do. But now it's spread like a benign stretching disease to all my pants, even my formerly too-small ones. Most of them I can slip on and off without un-buttoning or -zipping. On one hand, this is a good thing, cos I assume I'm getting skinnier (which for most girls is *always* a good thing). But now I look like a ragamuffin or a bum in my too-big pants, pulling up as I walk. I suppose I should 1) get a better belt, or 2) shut the hell up and stop bugging you nice people about my pants problems. And I thank you for listening. Or reading, as it were. Much love to Sean, Jimmy, Kirsten K, Rachie Frootloop, Monchichi An, Stine (hope you're doing okay!), and everyone else I neglected. I didn't do it on purpose, I'm just memory-poor. And friend-rich :) Kisses or hugs to all, elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 17:27:25 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:27:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It's your own fault... Message-ID: I've just moved into a new flat. Actually the flat is old, but I'm new to it. Once the flat and I had been introduced and I had been invited in, I started started to wonder about the nature of relationships with flats. When one is in a relationship with a person (preferably human), I'm sure there are some rules written somewhere (these may be the infamous "unwritten rules" from which many quotes are taken but proof never found of their validity...yes Helen...that means you) telling of minimum times of singledomb between stints and when in a relationship to discuss with your opposite number the concept of love. If only boys would stop and ask for directions, then perhaps these rules might just be uncovered someday. As for flats, I feel that similar rules apply. surely there must be some sort of bond formed between a person and the dwellings that support them in times of need (or sleep, whichever comes first). For instance, is it possible to have a one night stand with a flat? Would that infact be a one week stand? What if "things just aren't working out between us"? Is there a minimum time that one should wait before shacking up with another abode? I see a niche market for real estate therapists. Helping people overcome difficulties they have in their relationship with their abode. Thankfully though, places of residence rarely stoop to the same lows that are often reached by others. For example, when was the last time you were chatted up by a drunken, sleazy flat? And how many times have you heard the sweet sounds of break-up lines such as "It's not you, it's me..."? Oh well, maybe I should find myself a nice single bedsit, then get married and settle down with a family home. I suppose I could now discuss the links between renting out your house to pimping out your daughter (not that I have experience in either), but that's another story for another day. Jeremy ps. for those of you that replied to my last feeble post with encouragement...it's your own fault. pps. for those that wish they hadn't replied to my last feeble post with encouragement...it's not my fault. ppps. I read The Basic Eight this week and it made me want to die. But I did like it lots too. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Fri Nov 23 17:30:10 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:30:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Where art defines our lives? Message-ID: Good day friends, I am very happy to say that my world is becoming sinisterer(?) daily! A year or so ago B&S, their songs and the world therein was confined to the space between my ears and my stereo. Now it's tangible, and I've met real people who feel the same about them, it's more than just grate, it's bloody brilliant!! And now I'm jetting off to L.A. to visit the fantastical Rachel Fruitloop for New Year and feel like "the luckiest guy in the world (tm)" I just wanted to tell everyone and thank you all, right enough of the gushy stuff. So I have been lucky enough to listen to all the new songs on the forthcoming EP, and here are the results of the Appsian judges: I'm Waking Up to Us I really approve of Struan's affected tone here. Sounds like there's a lump in his throat and he's gonna cry at any moment. Can anyone else hear a bit of one of the songs from 'war of the worlds' in it? Also give it a week or so and you too will be walking down the street singing "chapter is, chapter is, chapter is clo-osed" in ever higher pitches. 9/10 A real heartwrenching classic I love my Car Please don't stone me, but this is probably one of my least favourite B&S songs to date. I didn't like it live and I did'ne like it now. Maybe I'm just a miserable sod and can't appreciate anything remotely jolly. Retrieves some integrity with the line "the day will come soon when I look in your eyes, but I won't see you" 6/10 Better than 'Beyond the Sunrise' Marx and Engels Immediately appeals to the socialist in me, even before I've heard it. Starts with the word "misery", this is more like it! Scousers, Launderettes, magic! 8 and 3 quarters/10 t'ra then and enjoy your weekends Ben xxx P.S. Kelly - how d'you get on with that interveiw? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 17:46:38 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:46:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: pants: oh dear Message-ID: <20011123174638.29741.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again, As Ken Chu so kindly reminded me. When I said "pants", all you lovely UK dwelling people should substitute "trousers". I wouldn't want the lot of you thinking Elise J Spry walks around the town sporting misshapen granny panties. Yuck, what an awful picture, that must have been. Droopy drawers indeed! Sean can attest the the fitness of my pants. Panties. Thanks for understanding, and Ken, thanks for writing back so quickly! You rawk, man. I love you all, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 18:13:41 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:13:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Once there was a scientist with a nose made of silver Message-ID: <20011123181341.A5688@candle.btinternet.com> 2pm, and it's already dark enough to light the streetlamps. It must be getting close to winter. I wanted to go out this afternoon and take photographs, but it's too dark to do that now. The film in my camera has pictures of stacey *dahling*, Danny The Champion of West Ayrshire and various other Sinister celebrities, and I want to see what they look like. I'm feeling annoyed today. My mad flatmate concocted a Cunning Plan to move to Wales without me noticing and thus con me out of the £1000 she owes me in rent. She has this marvellous idea of getting a job in a hotel in a small Welsh seaside resort, in the middle of winter, without being able to speak the language. Maybe she will try to persuade them she can speak the language; that would be quite funny. All day I have had phone calls from Welsh hoteliers. I want to tell them all that she is trying to escape her debts, and that she nearly got booted from her last hotel job for sleeping with the guests; but I can't bring myself to do it. It is true, before you ask. On her last day at work she killed a few minutes by shagging a visiting pest controller. I don't think he could bring her under control though. When she has men, she tries to hide me from them. She only brings them over if she's very drunk, or if she thinks I'm going away. Maybe she's worried that I'll tell them what she's like. But that's enough ranting. If anyone is looking for a nice cheap Edinburgh flat, let me know. Even if she doesn't go, I really ought to let the spare room out. I'm probably just jealous because I had a job interview last week and haven't heard anything yet. Smells like doom. Liz Daplyn said I'm very blonde. Only on my head, dear. I get even blonder in summer, though. Something to do with the light. Oooh, yes, there was a picnic. I went down to London specially for it, and it was fun. Lots of frightening people who I didn't know. Lots of drink, too, and not much actual outdoorsness. I tried to persuade a non-sinister friend of mine to come along, but he was too desperate to do his Christmas shopping. I had met some of the people at the picnic before. Big Gay Mark thought I was the epitome of twee, or something. "Every time I see you you have pigtails and makeup," he said. "That's two separate occasions!" I shouted. I didn't have my hair in pigtails this time, and the only makeup was the extremely expensive red stuff that Lucy was putting on everybody. Twenty-three pounds per bottle of crushed rose petal essence. I enjoyed the picnic far too much. It must have been the gin. Rachel and Rachel persuaded me to drink it, along with many many other types of spirit. "it's very small, and made of glass and grossly over-advertised" SCANDINAVIAN TRIVIA MOMENT: Those of you with the Pop Knowledge will have already realised what song (and what band) I stole the subject line from. Those of you who know your bacon will even be able to think of a scientist with a nose made of silver, and those of you who know so much trivia you spend all your days staring up at the sky will be able to name a scientist with a nose made of silver and an extremely tenuous connection to the Sinister list. Answers on a postcard, if you can be bothered. What else happened at the picnic? I don't think I can remember; it was a whole week ago now nearly. I did have a slight idea: in Christmas week, I will be taking fellow listee Dimitra to visit the picturesque former county of Humberside. Does anyone who will be in that area then fancy a small christmas picnic? I know there are (or were) at least three other listees with connections to Grimsby or Hull, and Sheffield isn't too far away either. Let me know if you're interested. Right. That's the post. Should I now a) do my laundry and go hang round bookstores, or b) play 3D Tetris again? It's a difficult decision, you know. Ta-taa, gneissy xx "But I was lying out in the long grass Just watching the clouds pass over the sun And I was dreaming of a journey Down a river, to an ocean. And through the breaks in the waves I could see that we were saved I could see that we were saved From destruction." -- Will Salt ICQ 66321009 http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 14:49:52 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:49:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: don't listen to a word I say ... not that you would anyway ... I may seem a little insincere ... but it's all down hill from here Message-ID: <20011123144952.26101.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> I think it's paraphrased. first: sorry... second: mandee wright: I dislike you intensely. your very presence on this list makes me want to unsubscribe immediately. and resubscribe so I can unsubscribe again. but I still read your subject lines and scan your posts for my name. kidding. the rest of it: I went to see pulp last night. I had fancied it. but it seemed all expensive and stuff. and so I forgot all about it and stuff. so. thanks to SD's friend and SD's friend's friend who decided not to go. and thanks to SD herself. for inviting me. even if I was her second choice. at least. at least I was her second choice. and ian and jo-jo were there. were to be there. I remembered. and we caught them. and stood in a usual area. comforting. there are plenty of unusual areas around those parts. I'm gradually regaining my hearing; it was very loud. hopefully my sight will return too. nah. well. yeah. it sure was loud. so loud, in fact, that I didn't hear ''til the band comes in'. I heard 'tihbizantumtim'. 'the byzantine tim' almost. what? david moore once succinctly described how 'byzantine' worked to a mister shearer and myself. we had an idea. I don't think david moore had any idea. who he was describing to. me. I mean. not the mister shearer. umm. more what? me. under the impression that stevie jackson loves it. now I think he must just really, really like it. through that comparison. yeah. I guess it goes to show. though. that rugby players do like music. a few of us saw 'ghost world' recently. that was really, really okay. I saw the beta band last week for free too. that was good. um. uh-huh. it seems that one of my best qualities is that people think I'm arrogant. or something like that. worse than usual. but. better than unusual. hey. 'til saturday. then. ROCK ON, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeff at xxx.br Fri Nov 23 19:35:41 2001 From: jeff at xxx.br (Jeferson Valadares) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:35:41 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Just an "I am sorry" message. References: <20011122193018.4DF9C278CB@mx02.osite.com.br> Message-ID: <006e01c17456$0975a940$ac0110ac@intranet.cesar.org.br> hmm, the guy on the left might have been me. sorry about ruining your experience - i was just elated to be there, and singing and jumping is the way i reacted to b&s live. i didn't figure i could cause offence just by the way i sing. -Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Sinister: B&S brazilian gig, as a first message... and, in the end, a "I am really sorry" message. > > I am from Brazil. Precisely from Rio de Janeiro. And, of course, I was there > at the Belle & Sebastian gig at Free Jazz Festival (although I must admit > there was almost nothing could be precisely nominated as "jazz" in the cast). > After a short Sygur Rós presentation, after which the brains of the audience > felt confortably melted, everyone started singing "The State I Am In" as if > it was the national anthem, with hands on chest. I thought B&S fans in > Brazil were, as I am, a little more discreet and introspective. > > When the show started, a guy on the left start yellin' the lyrics in > Sepultura style, guturally. He didn't care about the melody at all, and > cared a few about metrics: he just wanted to prove to everyone around that, > although he had a terrible lack of musical talent, had spent about 20 hours > a day in front of the stereo, so he could memorize every single line of > every single song. > > When Steve started playing the horn, so that we all realized that "Me and > the Major" was on its way, I had to run away, because the same guy started > jumping like a monkey. Uau, he was in a speed metal gig in his mind!... I > squeezed myself through the crowd, so I reached the other side, we're I > would be safe. > > At this point, I saw a group of girls who, on the other hand, didn't know > anything of what was happening on stage. They were just glancing aroung, > adjusting their tight skirts and heavy make-up, looking for true love, I > guess. By the time "Don't Leave the Light on Baby" begun, they were flirting > with a group of sympathetic guys, including me. I was too much focused to > pay attention to them, but I have to admit they were preety beautiful! I > simply wasn't in the mood for any extra activity: just watching the show > carefully, so I could always make a mind visitation to that moment of my > life and experiment that feelings all over again: the excitation, the groove, > the anxiety for not knowing what could come next in the setlist. I had to > keep'em, because there is a strong possibilty the band will never come to my > country again. > > When I turned back to the girls, "The Boy with the Arab Strap" was in the > middle, and they were dancing with their brand new pairs. I felt a sincere > happiness: they were not there for a B&S show at all, but, even then, the > reached their objective. Touching... > > "Fox in the Snow" was the emotional peak of the night. There were other > highlights. The girls-who-found-love in front of me loved when the band > covered Caetano Veloso's "Baby" in a perfect arrangement and "Minha Menina", > a classic with Os Mutantes. Finally something they could sing aloud!! By the > way, does anyone know if Sarah Martin has ever spoken portuguese before??? > She sang amazingly well! > > After the show, headed home. It was thursday, and the office was waiting for > me the following day. What else could I do? But I confess I hardly slept > that night... > > Uff!! HOw hard it is to write the first text to a list! > I felt obliged to say something about B&S. Promise I will be more original > and personal on next messages. > > * * * * another thing * * * * > > I am sorry for the "test message" that went before this one. My younger > brother was on command of the computer and I asked him to send a message for > the list, saying something nice, in order to test my inclusion in it. He > just perpetrated this bad, bad, bad joke and didn't think about the > consequences it could have for me and my reception, as a foreing element, in > Sinister. So sorry, sorry and sorry again. As someone said to me sooner, as > a comment, "we take the list we make" - or something similar. I belive that > too. > > Roberto > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Fri Nov 23 22:20:09 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the concept of family Message-ID: <9605591.1006554009593.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> hello sinister. someone once told me i was like a smurf: such a big person in such a small package. this week, i wanted to be a big person in a big package with big arms i could wrap around all of sinister. thank you. so much. you all have made this time easier with your thoughts and prayers and words of support. ulla, you are a doll, and i am still weepy over the picture. i love it. :) but. i do feel that i should say something of this: death is a precursor and period -- life rests in between. and i know it is for living that we are here. to make the most out of the time in between the brackets. don't waste it on petty somethings. for everyone, misslindseylou ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Nov 24 10:45:12 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:45:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'll never understand the Sinister list Message-ID: <000001c174d5$31ca92a0$b3c07ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Richard Gillanders said that I "once succinctly described how 'byzantine' worked to a mister shearer and myself. we had an idea. I don't think david moore had any idea. who he was describing to. me. I mean. not the mister shearer. umm. more what?" & I curled up with embarrassment as I bet I looked a right arse whilst doing that. And he's correct. I didn't know. Who he was. But I will. Next time. I visit. Glasgow. That is. Cos I got tickets to see Belle And Sebastian once again this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm just a little excited. Thank you Mr Robertson for telling us here about it, its very kind of you to remember us, especially when often we don't appear to remember you. I'm Waking Up To Us must have a doggy style theme, as there was an advert in the nme the other day featuring Stevie also with man's best friend. Did I ever tell anyone here about Sodastream? I can't remember. In any case they have just released a four track ep which is pretty. I don't know whether its easy to get in the UK, but try www.acuareladiscos.com or www.candlerecords.com.au for further details. Standout moment so far is Karl decrying "I won't be this happy again" in his trademark mournful voice. Licksy Wipes. Remember, you heard about them here first. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sat Nov 24 20:25:39 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:25:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i'm so vain i probably think this post is about me Message-ID: <004601c17526$4f07c1c0$d1107bd5@aqlzosqt> you know, i try to be a good listee and save up scintillating comments until i have a proper, substantial post, but it takes a long time to build up a sufficiently interesting narrative, and i do worry that people might forget who i am in the meantime. like so many of us here (don't deny it) i am a vain vain person and i like the sound of my own voice (well, the look of my own words...) some people just seem to live in a world of ready-made amusing anecdotes (kirsten, ken chu) whereas i can go for literally days without anything happening. at all. or maybe it's just the way you tell 'em. but i have yet to find a way of making 'i got up, i carried some bookshelves, i ate chocolate, i made a salad' sound quirky. i shook hands with the german ambassador yesterday, which you'd think would form the basis of an anecdote really. but you know, that was it. he came to visit the university, i shook his hand (mine was very cold, as always, and he looked a bit pained), he left. and not a ferrero rocher in sight. the other thing that happened at work was me joining the pension plan (omigod). you have to specify a recipient of a lump sum if you die 'in service' - sounds like the army. also since i have never stayed in any job for longer than a year, i'm not sure that i'll accrue enough contributions for my bereaved ones to even buy a wreath. on thursday i went to the only thing that passes for an indie night in brighton any more. the unsalubrious atmosphere was forgotten as, as if by magic, the opening chords of 'she's losing it' greeted my entrance. how we danced. also got 'legal man', although only after an unfortunate episode involving rage against the machine. the strokes and the white stripes were heavily represented, obviously (and the verdict on the latter from my friend george was 'they sound like early beatles'. hm.) have been watching lots of slightly strange films lately, involving amongst other things superintelligent ex-lab rats (the secret of nimh) and dead david nivens (a matter of life and death). and did you know that the original animated lord of the rings film is out on dvd tomorrow? yay! speaking of films, i recently read this summary of Storytelling: "Storytelling is comprised of two separate stories set against the sadly comical terrain of college and high school, past and present. Following the paths of its young hopeful/ troubled characters, it explores issues of sex, race, celebrity and exploitation." replace the word 'Storytelling' with the word 'Sinister' and 'two' with '1500'... and voila. us in a nutshell. (although as austin powers might say, us in a nutshell would be more like 'help! we're in a nutshell.') i hope that amongst the crazy seasonal covers at the QM Union they do fairy tale of new york. that would be great. and maybe last christmas by george michael as well. right that's IT. better go and live some more so i've got something to write about next time... luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Nov 24 12:58:33 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:58:33 EST Subject: Sinister: On the factory floor Message-ID: <43.23aea84.2930f379@aol.com> Hewwo, How's tricks everyone? I am in receipt of the heavenly album Le Jardin De Heavenly. It's perfect. Watch me become obsessed with Amelia Fletcher. Speaking of obsessions and names that sound a bit like each other: Amelie. I beed sad and joined the mailing list even though it's in French and I don't really speak French. I did it in standard grade though. But you can get a one in standard grade french without being able to speak it at all. Me and the Lieutenant have a long running debate about whether france is part of britain. My side of the argument is that it is, and that the english channel is just a little stream, and you can walk over it and little kids skim stones over it. And to support these claims i have been drawn into a web of deceit and corruption. Because now I invented the european union and i own europe and there are only 200 people in japan because it's actually a village and if more than 200 people go into it at any one time then it will blow up so they all went to edinburgh instead. Except for a couple, they went to ireland. I'm glad i don't share a flat with anyone. Once, when I was younger, I had this grate idea for breeding dwarves. I know two dwarves and they're male and female, and I thought wouldn't it be swell if they mated, because their babies would be like thumbalina except really strong and with bigger heads. Because the dwarves I know can lift really heavy stuff that normal people can't. But I gave up on that plan a long time ago. I'm not sure if it's politically correct. I did a talk on political correctness for school. It was more why you should see the funny side in tragedies and things because it's healthy or something. Basically I quoted a lot of stuff from the Viz and everyone laughed except the posse. Does anyone remember Tv Offal? With the gay daleks? Roberto said: When the show started, a guy on the left start yellin' the lyrics in > Sepultura style, guturally. He didn't care about the melody at all, and > cared a few about metrics: he just wanted to prove to everyone around that, > although he had a terrible lack of musical talent, had spent about 20 hours > a day in front of the stereo, so he could memorize every single line of > every single song. I hate it when people have fun too. We should all sit about drinking cappuccinos writing bad poetry and savouring the philosophical message of the lyrics and pretending to be shy. And for good measure we could grow a beard and wear a beret and look down on good old fashioned P!O!P! like s club seven. And get drunk, except when we get drunk we're only allowed to moan about some indie girl who doesn't requite our love, or how no one understands us because we act like prats and be pretentious and how we live in a bedsit with an artist who expresses his feelings through stick people. Oh and completely neglect the fact that the best smiths songs were the poppy ones. And use the world "gutturally" (ps it's got two t's). And generally be art fags. Sorry, that turned into a rant. I wasn't trying to be mean, I just hate it when people dissaprove. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Sat Nov 24 13:52:50 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:52:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: We're a disaster Message-ID: <7C7F0913.69895901.4EB512AD@netscape.net> Hey everyone, I have a small request: does anyone have a saved copy of Stuart Murdoch's old entry on the www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian site, where he was talking about his teacher and the fact that they almost got to perform "Eric The Half A Bee" for school? I've been searching for it like crazy and I just can't find it. In fact, while searching I stumbled into this... http://www.michael.phatcatz.net/awtv/Comedy/YoungOnes/yo-summer.html Now, being from the sunny shores of Brazil, I have absolutely no idea who The Young Ones were, or what this show was on about, but if you scroll down to the very end, you can see our dearest Struan was once an actor, too. Okay, so probably not, but it was worth a laugh. Last thing: if any of you are dying to hear the new single, Belle & Sebastian's record label here in Brazil, Trama, has full streams of all three songs (in Real Audio, Windows Media, and Quicktime formats, no less...) so check out http://moe.trama.com.br/trama/rock_js/rock_not.html and click on "Belle & Sebastian" at the top, and then choose your song and format, and wonderful music shall ooze from your speakers. Unless, like me, you forget to turn them on the first time. By the way, the new single is GRATE (or is "grate" out of style now?) Hugs, Mike -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop at Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sat Nov 24 15:49:48 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:49:48 Subject: Sinister: you care, i know. Message-ID: <195658283@spray.se> Hi Sinister, yes i *am* feeling sinister indeed today. I do not really know why. Maybe because I am at my dad´s and I want to be at my mum´s. Maybe because my stomach hurts. Maybe because I am so sick and tired of all my friends and all the boys and everyone else in my town who´s just.. too much at the moment. I do not know. On monday school ends at 12:15 for me, as every monday. Yes. But. This. Won´t. Be. Like. Any. Other. Monday. On this monday, I will take the bus to Stockholm, then the subway to "Medborgarplatsen", then I will walk to my favourite record shop Pet Sounds, and then, I will buy I´m waking up to us. Since B&S aren´t doing any concerts I can go to and my friends don´t care about B&S: this is a grate moment for me. It really is, sorry if I sound too pathetic. I am glad that I haven´t heard any of the tracks yet, that kind of ruin the whole thing if you´re asking me (maybe you don´t, but since you can´t say that whilst I´m writing this, I´ll write it anyway). Ah, I am dead excited. It´s like the one thing that brightens it all at this point in my life. It just feels like it will give me the kind of rescue from this world that I need. Because that´s how it works for me. When I listen to B&S in my discman or freestyle, everything gets nice again, and Stuart avec copains sing me to calmness when I´m excited, makes me happy when I´m feeling rather down, and just makes everything better for me. Oops, going a bit twee there. But B&S are like the older wiser friend that I always wanted. Then I discovered sinister and found out there was about 1499 older wiser friends to be found ;) No, honestly, I do appreciate all the posts, they put a big smile on my face even when I just want to sing the saddest songs. Tons of love and cuddles to you all, Astrid x P.S My bandsite: http://brightenyeah.cjb.net My B&S-site: www.angelfire.com/darling/poetry _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Sun Nov 25 00:20:24 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:20:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm so vain i probably think this post is about me References: <004601c17526$4f07c1c0$d1107bd5@aqlzosqt> Message-ID: <006401c17546$fad1d2a0$0ee3883e@fsnet.co.uk> Archel asserted that... > the strokes and the white stripes were > heavily represented, obviously (and the verdict on the latter from my friend > george was 'they sound like early beatles'. hm.) There was a quote, in PC-Gamer of all things, that went something along the lines of (I can't find the mag to give a direct quote): "...but then there are a lot of things in this world that don't make sense, like why am I the only one who thinks that The White Stripes sound like a two member, early beatles tribute band?" So he's not alone. As far as I'm concerned the Strokes are ok, but nothing brilliant, though they have grown on me since I first heard them. The White Stripes on the other hand just seem really boring, and sound derivative... without me being about to put my finger on exactly who they are deriving from. Also, the fact that Pop Idol's own Doctor Fox likes the Stroke is at least a little worrying, and here is the expert critical analysis of some guy off of the telle: "If you say that Coldplay is the sex you have in a loving relationship, then the Strokes are the kind of sex you imagine yourself having with the sexy girl at the end of the bar" Which worried me somewhat. I really didn't know that Coldplay represented the kind of sex I'd have with anyone, and I can only assume that what I get is obviously of a much higher standard than that guy. Which I suppose should make me happy. Something which doesn't make me happy though, is the new Tompaulin album. Patchy is, I think, quite a pleasant word to describe it, as it just seems like a mini album with a few things they were fooling around with inserted between tracks. There is some genuinely week songwriting and lyricism as well, which is rather shocking given the quality of their past releases. And, last but by no means least, I'd like to announce the brainchild of Kara Jean* Daria Brielmann and myself, Fast Cow. It's a music webzine, and, within a few weeks will include an interview with The Lucksmiths, a review of the latest Airport Girl release, a commentary on Mixtapery by listee, TransatLlanic Mixtape Comp Finalist, and all round arrangical genius Rachel Walther, and news that everything that Jon Bon Jovi ever released was a big fat joke. Currently there is an interview with Tompaulin, a review of My Life At The Movies and a few assorted pieces of stupidity, and well as uber slick presentation. So, I offer you, my fellow listees, the chance to check out www.ciahq.fsnet.co.uk/fastcow before the official launch, and before the masses. Enjoy :) Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 01:29:57 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:29:57 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i had a window day Message-ID: elizabeth were quite collegiate last night. at least, that's what someone said. it didn't last, anyway. we sat down with two boys i sort of know and had a long discussion about milwaukee's public education system. then one of the boys got distracted by elizabeth's exciting new cigarette lighter, and the conversation sort of fizzled into something silly. i mentioned emily and her song about anemia, because one of the boys had played it on a guitar a long time ago, in the same place where we were sitting. one of the boys pointed out that he was wearing the outfit emily said made him look like holden caufield. there was a strange old couple sitting in the corner. the woman was wearing a fringed blanket as a dress and heavy jewelry, and the man was in a flannel shirt. they had their eyes closed, and they weren't talking at all but every few minutes they would both laugh as though one of them had told a joke. they were quite isolated from everyone else, and far enough into the corner that they couldn't well have been laughing at overheard bits of conversations. we decided they must be 'too cool for verbal communication.' and got sort of jealous. so we toyed with the notion that we might be 'too ool for onsonants,' and for several minutes we only used them selectively. but none of us could talk that way with a straight face for long. so i guess we weren't ool enough. i drank six glasses of water at the teahouse before i realized that it was a bit pointless trying to do something healthy in a place so thick with smoke that i was tempted to pour the water into my eyes rather than drink it. my parents have gone to the wisconsin dells for the night. three boys just walked through the front door with beer and guitars. my brother's worried i'm going to blow out a speaker. i think i might. it's quite loud in here...my parents. they said they'd have a lot of time to 'talk' in the car. i can't imagine what else they'd be doing. i would much rather smoke in a car than talk in a car, but my folks probably wouldn't agree. so....yes. today at work, my boss asked me if i'd have trouble telling people what to do. i think that i would..but it means a raise, so i said no. so now i have noodle authority, apparently. officially. rock. love kirsten (who would be 'irsten,' if only....) 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sun Nov 25 03:33:22 2001 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:33:22 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: OFFTOPIC: Any listees students at Guy's Hospital and Whipps Cross in London? Message-ID: heya you crazy kids:) Just a short email imploring (and considering poor response to last email-maybe beggin would be better!:)) to ask if any listees are med students like moi and workin' at Guy's and Whipps Cross in London? Cos I'm gonna be doin' an elective at both hospitals starting from Jan 7 (a month at guy's doing paeds and 2 weeks at whipps cross doing a&e) and would love to know what to expect! I know whipps cross is very busy and err guy's is very erm old but what else?:) It'd be great to meet up with some listees so I don't feel so lost in the hospitals! anyone willing out there? Well hope to hear from some of you soon! later Kin Woo "With a star upon your shoulder Lighting up the path as you walk" Stuart Murdoch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 15:27:00 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:27:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Virus....Sorry Message-ID: Hello folks, Sorry... this is not another forwarded mail about viruses. Please don't get fed up with me. If you have received an email from me, or anyone else, with an underscore in front of their email address, please do not open it. It will probably have two attatchments. Do not open it, just delete it straight away. If you did open the attatchments, chances are your computer is going mental and emailing people all over the place. If so, look for a file called C:\Windows\System\Kernel32.exe. This is the little bugger that Sinister Superheroes Honey and I spent the afternoon hunting down. We got it, we killed it. We are grate! I'm really sorry to have to mail the list like this, when I'd much rather be writing clever witty Dorothy Parkerisms. But such is life. It shouldn't have got through security on sinister, I don't think, but there maybe people who I've mailed off list that may have fallen prey to it. Once again, very very sorry. I owe you all Gin and Tonics. Love Madeleine xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 16:28:24 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:28:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: At this rate I'll need a dog on wheels... Message-ID: Greetings to all and sundry, and sorry to be so abrupt in my first ever post, but does ANYBODY know ANYTHING about that alleged bus from Dublin to the Belfast gig? It's beginning to feel frighteningly Kafkaesque, all these blank expressions at every turn. Enlighten me somebody, please, and convince me that my sanity hasn't gone irretrieveably west. Oh, and I'll buy you a cake in Mandela Hall. Cheery bye for now... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 17:06:15 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:06:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Conclusions Message-ID: <167.47702c1.29327f07@aol.com> Hello sinister. I woke up the morning to us. Actually, I woke up to all of you. Got up and read some good posts from before Thanksgiving and up until now. My sister left this morning for uni again, and my two younger siblings are playing the piano and yelling at eachother. And my daddy is watching "Meet the Press." And our house smells like pizza. I made two scarves this weekend. One was red and the other was orange. I am making all my friends scarves because I have no money to spend on them because I want too much music. Jenny, my baby sister is making weavings out of my extra yarn. She is being really cute about it so I am trying to save all the yarn I can for her. I went horseback riding this weekend for hours. My legs hurt. And then yesterday I had to work all day and couldn't move because I was really sore. Archel wrote about hearing a lot of the strokes and the White Stripes, but I have a better story. I had to go to a catillion this Friday because my momma has some weird notion that I should be "high-class." Luckily, two semi-decent friends of mine were there and a really cute boy with shaggy hair named Ron. Ron and I complained about the music, which we looked through the DJ's collection and I asked for something decent. Nothing! not EVEN the strokes. Ron likes B&S, I talked about it for a while, because it excited me. I think I put him off. So, Archel, think of yourself as lucky. You know the song Bootylicious? that's what I heard. Conclusion: catillions are garbage. I am not high class much love all Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 19:07:01 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:07:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this glasgow gig Message-ID: has bloody sold out. anyone got a spare ticket? or are more getting released next week or something? love philip http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 20:34:11 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:34:11 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: the fall Message-ID: <85.1380227f.2932afc4@aol.com> hello to all you sinister types! i am in new york and life is great. (i hate grate. ah, don't shoot me.) i went to the first concert of my life that was unchaperoned and paid for by myself last night. i saw the fall at the knitting factory and they were really good. great, even. and very loud. the opening band was horrible, and there was far too much smoke for me to remain conscious until the end, but it was great! mark e. smith passed by me on the street and came two inches close to touching my arse when i was waiting to go in.. and he did not kick or hit or spit. i also stopped by a store called rocks in your head, and bought three cds. my dear friend max, who i went to the concert with, gave me a bjork and a patty smith cd for my birthday. it was all exciting. a guy who worked there (we dubbed him 'scarf guy' for the pink scarf he was wearing) kept on talking to us while we looked around. he was also at the fall concert, which was rather strange. he was there with a will levin look-alike, which was even scarier. (for those who don't remember, which is probably all of you, will levin is my forever little crush). but scarf guy was really cute. he told me to buy a go-betweens poster that i was considering. me: max, should i buy that go-betweens poster? max: um.. scarf guy: is it the lost album poster? you should. those are pretty handsome dudes. you know, men in tight pants. you wouldn't like that? i now have a wee little crush on the scarf guy. sad, isn't it? ooh! i turned sixteen! i am sixteen years and a week old! belated presents are still accepted at rural new hampshire. i've babbled for long enough, must scoot and listen to the adorable moldy peaches album.. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 20:35:51 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:35:51 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: a little post script Message-ID: <122.7f28de5.2932b028@aol.com> i forgot to add this little bit of belle and sebastian content in my previous.. i saw a vinyl copy of 'i'm waking up to us' at that rocks in your head store. it's not out until november 26, is it? or was it november 24 and i was just excited silly at finding an early copy for no reason... cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Sun Nov 25 21:37:00 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:37:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: listening to you reminds me of a motor's endless drone...and how the death are so damn lucky. Message-ID: my dad woke me up at 5 am this morning. i acted surprised even though i knew he was going to. today was to be our trip to london, although you could hardly call it a trip...more of a drive down there drop something off then come back type thing. it's strange waking up at 5 am because it doesn't actually feel as if it's a new day, it just feels like an extension of the previous day. sort of like when you fall asleep in the evening and wake up again thinking you've been asleep forever when in fact you've only been asleep for an hour. what was nice was having my dad make me breakfast. he hasn't done that since i was four or something and though it was only toast which were indeed burnt and had an uneven distribution of margarine (the first few had loads, the rest barely had any) it was still nice. the world's dead at 5am, i suppose it can be because people don't really have a good reason to be out that early. apart from paperboys. although our paperboy's gone a bit slack really, he's forgotten that he's actually supposed to put the paper through the letterbox so he just leaves them to get wet on the drive way. do you remember that game paperboy? today i realised that british motorways are actually really boring. there's nothing to them, it's just fields and industrial plants. occasionally there'll be a reservoir. i dunno what they could do to make them more interesting, perhaps animated road signs? another thing...trucks. they're big and scary, i think every truck we drove past almost crashed into us or felt the need to beep their horn... eddie storbart drivers wear uniforms, that's great. long car journey's are really bad. some people like them, but i just can't stand sitting still for so long, is that a bad thing? especially when you see the same things over and over again. we couldn't agree what to put on the stereo so we compromised on simon & garfunkel. which inevitably brought out the "they don't come as good as this anymore" comments from my dad. we stopped at some service station, which didn't break the trend of all other service stations in the country; a burger king, arcade machines, some sort of wh smith type store, a restaurant which has a "tea and cake" special and some people who are giving out free samples. today it was "echo" chocolate bars. once i got four free bottles of sunny delight...which may not be a good thing. didn't really get to do much in london, when my dad went to drop stuff off at his client's place i went and bought a paper and wandered round. i saw these people who were dressed up like wizards who were probably on their way to see harry potter. my local cinema has this competition where they take photos of people who dressed up to go and see it, then they'll give a "mystery prize" to the best one. when i was younger i always used to enter competitions to win a "mystery prize" but alas i never won. i just comfort myself by thinking that they were crap and that people only ever won toothbrushes or pencils. my parents hosted a dinner party the other night, i don't like it when that happens. it's not that i don't like my parents' friends it's just that they're a bit...boring. if an alien ever came to one of them they'd think that all middle age people ever talked about was cars and houses, and occasionally holidays. i just hid in my room and listened to arab strap records. i like that "shag pop" genre that somebody termed on a post a while back. --- some people were talking about b&s miss hearings, mine was quite recent. you know that bit in 'take your carriage clock and shove it' where it goes "you have whined to you got what you want"? i thought it was "you have wanked till you got what you want". it's strange the way miss hearings always seem to be smutty. i've drank too much orange juice. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brazilp at xxx.ie Sun Nov 25 22:18:44 2001 From: brazilp at xxx.ie (trish delish) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:18:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the magic bus? Message-ID: <3C0BC5D1@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie> hello sinister kids to start by answering mark sweeney's question about the bus to belfast, well...i actually can't answer the question, cos i know nowt either....much excited emailing has been going on since the belfast gig was announced (99% of that email being generated by yours truly, got a bit over excited...) but i have been in touch with 2 other members of the irish sinister massive - although with numbers like that, methinks massive is a bit of a misnomer....anyway, no one has any idea what the story is with this mystery bus, personally i like to think the band's tour bus will pop down to dublin to pick us all up, and we can play cards and drink rum all the way to belfast, but if anyone hears anything slightly more realistic sounding, i'd love to hear it... got IWUTU today, and have been scaring people ever since....it's just so infectiously poppy, particularly i love my car, i mean, it'd be a sin not to bop along....i have to say, i think that song features the best ever trumpet, i'm always amazed how mick manages to steal the best lines without ever uttering a word... does anyone else think there's also a good dollop of kiddie movie music going on in that song? i think the trumpet interlude in the middle (i know there;s a name for that bit, can never think of it) anyway, it's just this great big boozy trumpet warbling away, kinda reminds me of miss hannigan and her crew in annie...ok. i am totally the only person to hear that, and now you all think i'm a freak. rather like the people sitting beside me in the computer room - all this energetic head bobbing and random smiling has them convinced i'm on day release enough! i'll leave your heads some peace trish delish +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dimensionflip at xxx.uk Sun Nov 25 22:25:12 2001 From: dimensionflip at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:25:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: love and death Message-ID: <006601c17600$4d3549a0$c69489d4@default> (another disclaimer - i have been touched by lindsay baker's posts this week. none of the following is meant to trivialise what you've been through, love. i can't offer any words of wisdom or advice, but if virtual hugs can help, let me know. i've got a few packets of them around here somewhere) ------------------------------------ Dear Sinister, Why oh why oh why was a perfectly good evening's reading spoilt by gratuitous references to unsanitary parts of the human anatome, in particular those with connection to 'the sexual act'? Imagine my shock when, on settling down for a quiet evening's family entertainment, I am faced with multiple penii and references to homosexual behaviour which I can only describe as grossly indecent. I urge those in charge to put a stop to this deplorable situation immediately. I have made complaints, in writing, to the relevant authorities. Yours Concerned of Wolverhampton ------ ---- Mary Whitehouse died yesterday. Or perhaps it was friday. The weekend has turned into that pleasingly amorphous yet never-quite-big-enough entity known as "the bleurghurhguhgh period". so i'm not quite sure when the poisonous old cow was flung from the face of the earth into whatever festering cess-pit deserves her. but she's dead. that much i know, cos huw evans* wouldn't lie about such a thing. to many of you, this clearly meant nothing. it certainly has no b&s relevance. but i feel it deserves comment and so i find myself writing another sinister-obituary. mary whitehouse was perhaps the most famous "family rights" campaigner this country has ever seen. she was a great friend of margaret thatcher, and enoch powell and she fought a life-long battle to defend the viewpoint such political luminaries espoused, tackling any media unfortunate enough to suffer her blue-rinsed blows. highly politically influential, especially during the 1980s, she brought various injunctions against broadcasters and publishers for the "filth" they peddalled. the most infamous of these was her successful prosecution of the Gay Times for printing a poem in which a roman centurion fantasised about having sex with jesus, this being the only successful prosecution under the UK blasphemy laws ever brought. the editor of the publication in question received a fine and a nine-month suspended sentence and society got the message that gay behaviour was, officially, "obscene" - a court had said as much. and a few more teenagers struggling with growing up gay overdosed, but nobody really cared. and now, she's dead. forgive me for this, but it seems like a highly overdue dose of capital punishment. but i've never believed in that. (i believe in peace- (bitch)). i thought i'd be glad to see her shuffle off this mortal coil (why is it called a coil? should we update and call it a mortal condom? or a diaphragm?). as it is, i'm suprised - pleasantly - that i don't feel happy at her death. i just wish she'd never lived. can the world ever be better off for not having someone in it? in my better moments i like to feel like everyone has something to contribute. but what if that contribution is to bully, restrict, and spread hatred? what if enoch powell had never lived? would we be a happier world? or was there something he did, just once, that was worthwhile? was their contribution to provide something so extreme, and hateful, that it gave people something to rail against? --------------------------------------- nearly done with that subject, you'll be pleased to know. L7's "pretend we're dead" is playing in the background and it seems appropriate. i wonder if that's what the likes of thatcher, powell and whitehouse wanted. a nation of "individuals", looking after themselves, and nobody else, thinking regulated thoughts, living ordinary lives, and staggering towards their graves looking forward only to the sleep they hopedeath will bring. sometimes i look around me, and feel like one of those zombies. so i try to escape the undead state. i've found some fine cures for it, too. notably love, laughter, and music. music is a fine escape. our undead generation, and perhaps a few of those before us, find some life in the words of a certain scottish band. or perhaps a big english band, or perhaps a big american band. if it makes you feel alive, it doesn't really matter. just a momentary connection with life-the only thing bigger than death-is all it takes. because it is when you connect that you're feeling life, rather than just living it. i saw a scene from "the seventh seal" last night on channel 4's 100 greatest movies, death appears to a man on a beach. the man says i know you, you've always walked beside me. and i think its true. death will always be there, offering his embrace. he comes in colours. black - comforting and warm; white - terrifying and painful; red - instant and unexpected. but the thing to do is reject that embrace. because, sooner of later, you won't be able to escape it. and he may never let you go. and, one way to escape it in your waking hours, believe it or not, is belle and sebastian (phew! got in a reference). in fact, this list combines love,laughter and music, so perhaps its the ideal synthesis of all three (can a synthesis have three things in it? i'm not sure) : sarah clarke thinking what question she'd like to ask belle and sebastian, and concluding they'd probably give a boring answer, and making her own up, richard gillanders talking about singing "sexy eyes" to a woman with only one, kirsten kenyon talking about -well, let's face it, she could probably talk about watching concrete set and it would be interesting - all of this recalls me to life. and i thank you for it. i wanted to go over what you've all said this week, but i think i should go now. as the buddha once said: "piss, shit, wank, fuck, arse". oh no, sorry, that was me. ian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 02:33:59 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:33:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Sinister :( Message-ID: <13f.51459b1.29330417@aol.com> There was a time in my life when I thought that emoticons were really, really bad news---I was probably under the influence of someone hipper-than-thou who decided showing emotion was just crap--that never ending anything with an ounce of punctuation was best; yeah, being monotone is just the cat's pajamas--I have a friend who has a monotone voice. Although, when she gets excited her voice ladders up a few octaves and kind of gets squeaky, but usually only one word in a sentence is affected by this phenomenon (i.e.: "What are you TALKING about."). Whenever I call her house and ask for her, her brother (who also has this weird monotone voice) will not-so-quietly take the phone away from his ear and yell, also, punctuationless and emotionless: "Darcy Darcy Darcy." Please keep in mind that he is YELLING this.. and manages to yell it COMPLETELY DEVOID OF ALL EMOTION. I like to put a lot of dramatics into my voice; when something is exciting, I usually exclaim it to a ridiculous degree and also, manage to scare the wits out of the person to whom I am talking by grabbing their jacket or their arm or their shirt sleeve to emphasize the sheer EXCITEMENT of it all. Then, after all that, I will give them a look. The look is sort of an intense stare, mouth agape--a stare that I'd like to summon up as: "I JUST CAN'T PHANTOM THIS!" How does this sheer excitement translate online? Well, usually-- simply, CAPITAL LETTERS and.. well, !!!!! and more !!!!!! and yet more CAPITALS and another couple of !!!!!. It doesn't work out nearly as well as I'd planned. I cannot do the intense staring, nor the jacket grabbing. Funnily enough, the emoticon of ":(" manages to break my heart. That glum little parenthesis, its curvature leaking onto the metaphysical chin on the page--those open, teary, never blinking colon eyes--I automatically metaphysically flip to an illustration of a sad, eager-looking dog, a weepy-looking, dopey dog--preferably one who is homeless, and, well, as a consequence of its homelessness, REALLY sad. So at the first initial glances of this emoticon, "The frowny face", I, too, frown. Poor little frowny face. I don't actually feel sorry for the sayer of this emoticon--but rather, the emoticon itself. If I see a person frown, it is usually completely affected and cartoony. Do people actually FROWN when they are sad? I mean, at times when one is crying the mouth automatically turns down in an attempt to not-cry, but, really.. frowning is such an action that was totally invented by cartoons. No one frowns. Except on the computer screen, and that's when it really gets to me. It seems that the really joyful emotions are so comedic and social--being happy involves grabbing someone's jacket and laughing and staring intensely through smoke--the other ones, though, the ones I see most often on the computer screen; they just aren't visual. Or visible. When I'm sad I go to two places: under my covers, or online into #sinister. I'm thankful for those who have had to see me come to a point where I'm tapping out a frowny face; it doesn't happen all together too often, but when it does, thank you. And for others who want to use a frowny face--well, I'd hope to think I could do the same. Ok, enough of me being sappy. ;) Hands on the table, mandee m a y +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 04:43:47 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:43:47 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 'omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis' Message-ID: i sat on my parents' bed, admiring my new shoes and waiting for the phone to ring. it didn't for awhile. but then it did, and my shoes are blue suede but the boy on the phone looks nothing like elvis. to me. and that's good. i wish i were good at thinking of interesting things to say on the telephone, but i also sometimes wish that i had a pet monkey and a pearl-pink vespa, and that's not going to happen either. my mom kept saying she was going off to bed, but then she'd just turn the page of the newspaper. finally i drove her off by turning on some strange silent film marathon and making it into something quite loud. it is still on right now....it was snow white for awhile. then it was sepia-toned children in a dungeon. with pretty piano music. i came back later to find geisha girls giggling and bearded men strangling a bear. with different music. old people playing drums around a fire. to beethoven's sonate pathétique. and then it was boys working in a garden. a very old woman blowing out the candles on a birthday cake. a man playing a sad song on a fiddle. lumberjacks. bathing beauties. now it's ripples on a pond and a bare-shouldered girl and swaying palm trees and some sassy latin-sounding music with a piano and flute and drums. and there's a volcano. this is just fascinating. really. oooh a monkey! who needs words when you have tambourines and monkeys.... upon my arrival at the diner this evening, i was happy to find some of my very favorite strangers scattered about. one of them is a man with the most fantastic voice i have ever heard. he sounds like barry white after a carton of cigarettes and two minutes spent gargling with whiskey. listening to that man order a hamburger feels almost holy. my other favorites are a young couple who sit and smoke newport 100's and talk about getting married. they've been talking about it for well over a year, and i wish they'd stop talking and just do it already. someone suggested i tell them so. maybe that's just what they need....for a strange girl in a sparkly tam to put down her coffee mug and say "HEY. we're all sick of hearing about this. just get married and be done with it." and then two little light bulbs would appear over their heads and they would run off to las vegas. my brother's friend justin moved to las vegas unable to hold three beers in his stomach. he lived there for awhile. then he moved back. last night he drank a bottle of maker's mark whiskey that must have been sitting around since 1989. i was spilling my drink everywhere and they were talking of molotov cocktails so i went to bed, and they went into the garage for the gasoline and went out whipping the grenades at the high school, and at rocks and goalposts and whatever else they happened upon on their drunken stroll through the neighborhood. i can't think what else to say today. my mom asked me to play some christmas music on the piano. i turned the coventry carol into something positively sinister. love kirsten 'all things are changing, and we are changing with them' Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 11:37:32 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 03:37:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: funding for Scottish music; records; B+S gossip; why can't I find a magazine about decent music? Message-ID: <20011126113732.38122.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Hi you lot, So the gig has gone and sold out. Oh well. I guess I can�t be too bugged out, I have seen them play this year, and that was cool enough. Anyway, for all you, like me, too slow or in many cases, too far away to get to go and see the hallowed B+S play (seriously, I�m thinking about setting up my own CCTV around the various universities of Glasgow, seeing as B+S probably seem to hang around there more than the students.. why do they always play secret gigs there?) I have something else for you. Just for you. Nobody else but you. So all you smug smugs can go away. No peeking. ***Oh, there�s a titbit of B+S gossip rattling through the Corduroy Smoke message board right now. You might already have heard it, but then again, you might not. The link, as always, is littering the bottom of this e mail.*** Recommendation of the week (if you�re not out buying B+S records, that is): James Orr Complex. I picked up this dazzling EP for two quid in Avalanche on Saturday, and can safely recommend it to all of you on the basis that it is fantastic. I bought some other stuff too, but this was a favourite. Saturday, I spent the evening in Glasgow getting drunk with a friend and chatting and listening to music. I stayed over at her house, and met her new gerbil, Laurence, whose a gothic interior designer of a gerbil. And so lovely as well. Not as radical as her previous gerbil, the Che Guvara reincarnation socialist- Zorro. It made me want to get a gerbil myself. We also chatted with her husband yesterday morning about music and things. I don�t know if you know, but this might be of interest for any of you in bands in Scotland needing funding for projects. Check out the Scottish Arts Council site to find out about grants given to musical, artistic and writing areas and all sorts of other things. As far as music is concerned, they seem to be very keen on the idea of supporting contempary musicians. Some of the pieces of interest were these: Music Promotions and Events Funds to assist music festivals and concert promoters working in all styles of music. Priority areas are traditional music and contemporary music. Closing dates: 18 Feb 2002 - latest guidelines and application form will be posted here soon (projects in 2002/2003 Recording Grants for special recording projects (not demos) involving Scottish based artists working in all styles of music. Priority areas are traditional music and contemporary music. Closing dates: 21 Jan 2002 http://www.sac.org.uk There were plenty more options available, but check out the website if this has whetted your appetite. Half the office looks as if it is taking time off this week. Except me. I got my mobile phone bill through, and on top of that, my stereo is being repaired and will take up a chunk of this weeks pay cheque. But this is not a career. I spent a small fortune in Borders yesterday. I gazed across the stationery, and ended up buying a couple of fountain pens to write in my little notebook with. I looked over the magazine racks. Why are there no decent indie music magazine left anymore? Has my taste moved so far underground that the publications can�t find me anymore? Or is it just that the things I�m into doesn�t appeal to them? Viva fanzines, viva! I also bought a big book about music, just to help me get my references right. Of course, I�m sure I could find them on the internet, but this is more handy. Anyway, enough of my ramblings, go on, go out and smile. Love, Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk Mon Nov 26 15:05:35 2001 From: Patrick.Doyle at xxx.uk (Doyle Patrick) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:05:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: bowlie kids Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'm in my Psychology class once again, and have decided to write to you my lovely sinister friends. After listening to The Model this morning before school, I picked up on the lyric " the bowlie kids " can anyone explain this term to me? As there is a road beside my houswe called the bowlie, I guess I alwys just assumed that the band were singing about me and my neighbours! Anyway, who;s all going to the gig on the 20th in Glasgow? and more to the point can anyone tell me where the QMU actually is as I have my ticket but don't actually know where the gig is!! I'll look forward to meeting some of you there laters Patrick, the bowlie kid +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 15:12:52 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 07:12:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i've seen you look like a japanese baby....in an instant i remembered everything. Message-ID: <20011126151252.36112.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> heylo sinister folk.... my friend (and fellowhead b&s fan) nathan lee from elgin IL. just sent me this email, and i found it so bizarre and hilarious that i had to share it with all of you. nathan is an odd person to say the least. enjoy! ---caleb ben aka raw p.s. tomorrow i get "i'm waking up to us"!! (from nathanhead) Dearest Leopoldt, With deepest regretation, i am writing to inform you that we cannot attend your upcoming invitational at the Dairiquee Ballroom. Oh how terribly sorry we are for being advanced absentees, but you see we seem to be having, well a slight excursion into troubleland due to our two pussycats who have gone, how can we say, a little too far into the townsquare of KooKoo land? Yes, Leopoldt, a week yesterday we released the kittys from our humble abode, as usual, for their daytime frolic. Unawares were we when Carmine came tromping home with what seemed to be a moist ring of milk around the chops and whiskers. What seemed to be! Charles drew the hankercheif from his breast pocket to wipe the "milk" away when Carmine fanged him in his jugulus vantiquis! He collapsed into our bed of vibrant (yes, beautiful) roses and recieved an adequate share of prickles from the throny stems which i spent the rest of the evening plucking free with a pair of mangled tweezers. Then he died. Good tweeze is difficult to come by these days my dear Leopoldt, remember that! Carmine told us she had grown weary of our "restrictive" feeding program and decided to fufill her fragile stomach's hunger inquiries by biting people. "I want to bite them!" she screamed. When i quickly objected to her bogagolabee nonsense she scratched my face with the front claws of her front paw, which i had TOLD Charles to have removed, and CHARLES! Charles dead from what seemed to be death, had no retort to my raising of rucous over our newly found rebellious spirit trapped in the brains inside the flesh and bone covered with tortoishell hair for Carmine, our pussycat! I had suspected that Carmine talked, yet never delved into the realm of perhaps/perhaps not. It's astonishing! TALKING PUSSYCATS! how unbennening! Well, Lucius, he is a total different story. Lucius, always favored as the head bow-wow in our abode, trusted and renouned amound his close feline colleagues, appeared to have dissapeared that night. Disappeared Leoplodt! Vanished! After dragging the cold corpse of Charles to our bearclawed bathtub, i drew a warm bath and layed his body in the water, hoping for the slight possibility of revival. Little was i to know that all along i had not been married to the living, breathing man, but a rather unique spongey toy which grew to an extraordinary size and shape! My former Charles forced his head through the bathroom ceiling, attempted to talk to me (he spoke rather unintelligebly, his soft plush lips made a sand paper meshing sound, very pet-peevish, i requested he quickly hush), then merrily boinged away down our quiet little lane. Oh, Leopoldt, this is not the half! Oh, if only time came in bundles. I would act with haste and buy them all from the hand of Father Winnenenne. I must write you in addition later. My hand has grown feeble from formering letters into words and sentences with my ink and feather. Do take care dear Leo. Await anxiously my futher explanation. ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Mon Nov 26 16:32:54 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:32:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: new stuff Message-ID: <000f01c1769a$1ab07e60$9426fea9@katrina> hi everyone, just a quick message to let you all know that we have some NEW merchie items now available in our NEW online shop! there is a tea towel - oh yes, you better believe it - and a set of 12 postcards featuring the artwork for all the promo posters from the 12 releases. just mentioning it before you all panic about xmas pressies www.banchoryshop.net ... ... AND the single's out today - just in case you'd forgotten ... ... AND the Glasgow & Belfast gigs are coming up and we've finally managed to get the info re tickets from dublin up at http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news.html ... ... AND everyone is in London just now to record the "Later... with Jools" program that is being broadcast this Friday night on BBC2 at 11.35 PM (UK Time) ... ... that's it, i'm off! cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 16:52:46 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:52:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I have a secret,i intend to keep it that way Message-ID: Hello my lovely wee pies, First: Sorry.... I seen Amelie a week or so ago. It was just lovely. I think it might be my favourite film ever,i'm going to go see it again soon. It had this innocent quality. Well not the film really. Amelie. She was an adorable wee thing. My friend told me though that he took someone and they said it was okay but it should have been dubbed in english. That saddened me,i'm not sure why. It would just take something away i think. Anyway,go and see it. It's fabulous. Someone said that my posts were *very* personal and well i guess they are, they're me in a way in a nice little condensed format. I guess i can't write any other way but well to use something im certain must be a cliche from my heart straight onto the page. I think sometimes it feels like im putting a little part of my soul into the post and sometimes it could be made better but for the most part im loathe to chage it. To tone down the personalness,to change the things i feel in my heart to somehow make them better. I do try and make them understandable of course but if i look at a paragraph and go oh im sure i could make that better or funnier or inspiring i usually don't,it feels as if i'd be destroying something if i did,the part of the post that contains me and not just words. I think i should mention B&S in this one so i will. I'm going to see them,so there! I think seeing B&S at christmas time will be terribly special and lovely and will make christmas extra special. Not just B&S will make it special though,more than that. On that note, im trying to give everyone something that's special,or more importantly special to me for my christmas so im giving away my copy of tigermilk to someone now THAT'S special. I must rush out and buy one straight away. I think Tigermilk is my favourite B&S album. It kind of got me through sixth year where i had to spend an hour and a half each day in the "common room". Which meant i sat for an hour and a half with people that i disliked lots and who probably wanted to eat my liver and hear them talking about trance music and buckfast and snogging wee slappers and fighting too. I could just put my minidisc player on and turn it up so i couldn't hear anyone and then mr murdoch and co. could soothe me for a while at least. School wasn't fun. Anyway yes giving tigermilk away i am and i hope the person see's it as a special gesture. Speaking of specialness: Lindsey Baker. Before. Before she spoke about rumours. I won't quote her. Gossiping is grate fun,it's such a lovely pastime. Just ask the sinister sewing circle. Sitting in their rocking-chairs crocheting bookmarks and going: Oh did you see Isobel's bum last week it must be about <-----------------> this big. Sheesh. hehe But. Rumours. They're different. They can grow and mutate. A snippet here.A snippet there. Put it together and make a story. It looks like it fits so it must. But it doesn't. Add 2 and 2 and make 5. People get hurt. I've been there,everyone has im sure. Rumours banded about on buses between silly wee girls about me and friend-girls. Traded for a rumour about an illicit affair i'm sure. Rumours about best friends and girlfriends. More recently. Too. People i hold dear to me have been hurt. Maybe more than two. Life's bigger than that. Okay i'm going to leave you in peace now,i feel compelled to write about the stars and i shan't bore you with that. Not yet anyway. Love and hugs and chocolate Danny xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 19:39:22 2001 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (~ boywiththearabstrap) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:39:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ahhh!The Glasgow Gig! Message-ID: Stevie, I've tried phoning you, but to no avail.I GOT THE TICKETS!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 20:34:17 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:34:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It's been a bloody stupid day... Message-ID: Since I left the shores of the antipodes in september I have grown older and slightly wiser, not to mention a whole lot more twisted. In traversing the globe and seeing it's sinister inhabitants, I have learned much, not quite the meaning of life, but more along the lines or "Rules Of Engagement" for human interaction. 1) Do not trust anyone, least of all yourself. 2) Do not love anyone, least of all yourself. 3) Do not let anyone in, metaphorically or literally. 4) Further to no. 2, Love itself is a myth, it does not exist in the real world. Only in the princess bride. 5) Your favourite band WILL release shite material. 6) Pain is innevitable, often as a result of discovering no. 4. 7) The only friend upon which you can truly depend is a pet, the rest will eventually hurt you. 8) You ARE as unattractive as you think you are. Anyone that convinces you otherwise is lying. 9) When you think people are gossiping about you behind your back, they are. and lastly... 10) The only certain things in life are death, taxes and betrayal. I know that most people wouldn't have read that, but for those that did, well done...you are now well on the way to enlightenment. For the rest of you, I know you already hate me, so this does nothing to decrease your numbers, though maybe, just maybe, your ranks have swelled ever so slightly. Jeremy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 20:41:23 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:41:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Meet-up this saturday Message-ID: Just a reminder for all you crazy kids; there's a Sinister meet-up this saturday (December 1st) in Chicago. The plan is to meet at the Art Institute in downtown Chicago at 3pm and we can decide where to go what to do from there. We'll meet up just inside the doors in the lobby and I'll try to be standing right next to or near the entrance to the gift shop. Just look for the short spikey haired fellow with the black rimmed indiekid glasses standing next to the astonishingly charming Miss Elise, that'll be me. Anyone who plans to make it, could you please drop me a line and let me know. Also, if the time or place isn't good let me know and an alternative could be found. For those that already mailed me and said they were going, I send an email out to you lot later confirming things. Hope to see some of you this weekend! Cheers! Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 22:16:42 2001 From: stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com (juju cat) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:16:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: things that make you go *swoon* Message-ID: halo sinister. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm autumn.. i came to my day job this morning with it in mind to get work done, since i forgot my c.v. i was going to update it, maybe start looking for another job... but i'm half wishing i could get laid off just to be able to sleep through december. i love the way the water streams down the windows, proving the chill outside, knowing it's toasty cozy inside my cocoon. harrison, my lover cat, snuggles with me. he's the softest thing, and so warm to wake up to. my own little hairy potter. but last night, i discovered he's afraid of the heater. he cried when it came on. he hid under the bed. it was the first time we've had the heater on since last winter. i hope he gets used to it, cos i do adore the warm draft through my lashes as i'm lounging about... and it would break my heart to have a winter with either a sad kitty or a cold wood floor. last night i put all my clothes away. that is quite a task for a clotheshorse. especially with a closet smaller than a refrigerator. i wonder why i can't let go of all those silly band tees? most of them are either faded to the last bit of color any thread could hold, or ten sizes too big. sometimes i give the excuse that someday i could have kids, and they'd the coolest kids on the block wearing my old tees. but mostly i tell myself that i have plans to make a quilt out of all of them. what a patchwork that would be: meat is murder next to republic diagonal from glory box... perhaps i'll give in to the notion soon: if harrison doesn't take to the heater, i'll certainly be in need of another duvet. i'm catching up to us: the past month of sinister mails that i've been too busy to spend much time with... i mussay, there have been some loverly moments. i'm swooning. sinister, i think i'm in love with you. and just as my headphones sang 'friday i'm in love', i read caleb ben's post: "...of course this is all very sudden, i admit, but it's just such a marvelous feeling to revel in, i really think it's going to be THE fashionable thing to do this autumn. you'd be smart to jump on the wagon folks, cause the love train's about to leave the station...." true, that!! i always love caleb's posts cos he has the knack for bring up all things swoonable, and sure this post in particular is from nearly a month ago, but it made me all swirly inside again! and i'm craving that feeling... the one that makes your whole body want to scream out to the world how grate it feels. and i'm on the verge.. one touch from *him* and i'd certainly fall head-over-heels.. but i'm being held back by sense, or reason, or doubt, or.. ?. (his, not mine- if it were up to me, i'd be in love everyday.) we should make lists of swoonables... categorize them like jeopardy. swoonables in rock: $100 bowie's 'heroes' $200 the split-second drum intro to omd's 'if you leave' $300 the psych furs $400 cocteau twins' 'blue bell knoll' $500 barney sumner's 'ow' $1000 stuart's piano posture ok, i can't swoon anymore. it's like sugar overdose. hearts, juju _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Mon Nov 26 22:25:47 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:25:47 EST Subject: Sinister: you said you'd always fall for the underdog Message-ID: <97.1ed9ea2a.29341b6b@cs.com> I don't get it sometimes. All I signed up to do was go out and sing a few Christmas carols with a group of people from my school. The best part, or course, was that we got to dress up in Victorian English clothes, which aren't too far off the style I've been trying to cultivate, but for lack of funding. I was even willing to withstand another session of trying on other people's clothes that haven't been washed for ages in order to sing. It really should have been fun. Alas, being teenagers, we had a bit of a misstep. One friend of mine didn't come to rehersals and proceeded to sing the same note the entire evening directly into my left ear. He's a wrestler or I'd have had him right then and there. My mom could've even got it on camera. Also the newest person I've decided I fancy was there and of course as soon as I liked her so did half the rest of the student body. Funny how that works. So it ended up looking not unlike a scene from a Dickens novel, what with the shabbily dressed children running about and singing songs and trying to win each other's affection. Luckily I had my Miles Davis shiny new 'Kind of Blue' cd ready and waiting for me afterwards. A little bit of trumpet is good for the soul I reckon. Hope the new B&S single brings it back a little bit. That's the only bit my mom likes about them. bri +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 00:24:37 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:24:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: It's been a bloody stupid day...I'll second that! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011127002437.85897.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> I just wrote a very eloquent paragraph about how bloody stupid MY day has been and my coworker kicked the plug out for our computers, so it's lost. It seems odd to me that the further I go in my education, the stupider I seem to get. I just received my law paper back that was worth 1 test grade and got a big, fat R on it, meaning REDO. I was more than a little disappointed by this result. Granted this is a very difficult professor, but I didn't think my writing was that bad. I'm still baffled by my decision to become a business major. I think it's been my worst decision to date. I don't really care about cutting costs, marketing, and all the other shite that goes along with it. Oh well, I have one more semester after these two and 1/2 weeks are over with. I just wish I could sleep through the next few weeks. Right now I feel like curling up into a ball and listening to Belle and Sebastian and making it all go away. Damn reality. I really like the new poster they have for I'm waking up to us...i think i'll have to buy that one. Then I can stare at Stevie (my absolutely unattainable crush) as i fall into a deep, peaceful slumber...ah... Well, I suppose I should start working on all the crap that awaits my attention. I will have a happier post (I promise) on Dec. 12th, when all this stuff is over! Carmel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mckinnon_ryan at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 00:44:16 2001 From: mckinnon_ryan at xxx.com (RYAN MCKINNON) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:44:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sweet angel gone.......................... Message-ID: My heart all winter lay so numb, The earth so dead and frore, That I never thought the spring would come, Or my heart wake any more. -Song- Rupert Brooke Dear sinister, just a week ago I broke up with my girlfriend of 2 1/2 years, her name was Lindsay and at one point I really believed we were destined to wear matching sweaters, attend dinner parties together and share a memberhip to some quaint little country club. This sick little dream has hence expired and suddenly everthing is a little more overcast. Lindsay was a special girly and if I ever see eyes like those in another girl I'll feel truely blessed, as corny as I know it sounds they really were the bluest of blue. It's just hit me how I'd lost sight of that before now. Oh Dear! She'll marry a finance director, I pray to god she doesn't but I know she will. They'll both have the matching sweaters and country club acquaintances. Whenever she satisfies him he'll betoo cold to mention "love" so he'll politely inform her "you're stock is certainly rising tonight dear". I pray to god she doesn't marry a finance director. I also pray that Christmas isn't nearly as lonely as I fear it will be, I think I might go for that job as the Supermarket Santa Clause just to have some excuse not to spend the whole festive season in my bedroom listening to "Last Christmas" by Wham and dining on Selection Boxes full of chocolate I don't even like. Mabye I wont be the Supermarket Santa, it wouldn't be fair on the kids. Anyways I've already said far too much, thanks for reading. -Ryan-aka Dannys Ryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 01:35:38 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (Wojcik, John) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:35:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sweet angel gone.......................... Message-ID: <000601c176e3$d132b6a0$f909040a@ops.about.com> SADDEST POEM I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. Write, for instance: "The night is full of stars, and the stars, blue, shiver in the distance." The night wind whirls in the sky and sings. I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. I loved her, and sometimes she loved me too. On nights like this, I held her in my arms. I kissed her so many times under the infinite sky. She loved me, sometimes I loved her. How could I not have loved her large, still eyes? I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. To think I don't have her. To feel that I've lost her. To hear the immense night, more immense without her. And the poem falls to the soul as dew to grass. What does it matter that my love couldn't keep her. The night is full of stars and she is not with me. That's all. Far away, someone sings. Far away. My soul is lost without her. As if to bring her near, my eyes search for her. My heart searches for her and she is not with me. The same night that whitens the same trees. We, we who were, we are the same no longer. I no longer love her, true, but how much I loved her. My voice searched the wind to touch her ear. Someone else's. She will be someone else's. As she once belonged to my kisses. Her voice, her light body. Her infinite eyes. I no longer love her, true, but perhaps I love her. Love is so short and oblivion so long. Because on nights like this I held her in my arms, my soul is lost without her. Although this may be the last pain she causes me, and this may be the last poem I write for her. - Pablo Neruda 5 years is a long time to be holding a torch for someone. Somewhere, in France or in upstate New York is a girl named Esther with little ears and a big heart. And she has my green mohair cardigan with the silver buttons, among more ephemeral things. I'm shaking just thinking about her. So, if anyone knows anything about someone named Esther from up around Cooperstown, tell her I said Hi. To Ryan: I hope you find someone like her, or better. Cause I know, as they say on the pizza boxes, once you've tried the best, you'll forget the rest. Its unfortunate how found happiness becomes the yardstick by which all future girlies are measured. Unfortunate, for all involved. I wish I had something more reassuring to say. To Kyla: Neruda, as discussed at the picnic or at the show. The quickest way down some literate indie girls pants. John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 07:55:49 2001 From: the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com (The Cat's Pajamas) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:55:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Intro: The Cat's Pajamas Message-ID: Hello everybody, This is my first post to sinister, I just busted out of the nursery a few hours ago. I've been hanging about in #sinister for the past couple of weeks, so I've gotten to know some of you already. For those I haven't met, my name is Jason, I'm about to graduate from the University of Illinois with a degree in Ecology. I grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago, Tinley Park to be exact. If there are any other Chicago area, or Chambana area sinisterines, let me know. I'd be interested in hearing from you. I'm off to bed now, so I'll stop here before I ramble too long off topic. I've really enjoyed reading the posts for the past couple of weeks, everyone seems really great. I'm looking forward to contributing from time to time. The Cat's Pajamas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 07:55:49 2001 From: the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com (The Cat's Pajamas) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:55:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Intro: The Cat's Pajamas Message-ID: Hello everybody, This is my first post to sinister, I just busted out of the nursery a few hours ago. I've been hanging about in #sinister for the past couple of weeks, so I've gotten to know some of you already. For those I haven't met, my name is Jason, I'm about to graduate from the University of Illinois with a degree in Ecology. I grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago, Tinley Park to be exact. If there are any other Chicago area, or Chambana area sinisterines, let me know. I'd be interested in hearing from you. I'm off to bed now, so I'll stop here before I ramble too long off topic. I've really enjoyed reading the posts for the past couple of weeks, everyone seems really great. I'm looking forward to contributing from time to time. The Cat's Pajamas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 10:02:21 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:02:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "waking up to us" (the bouncer has arrived) Message-ID: Dear Sinister, I was contemplating my own death yesterday, it was fun. Eating a sausage sandwich and watching the grease dripping out like the amber on trees in the Amazon that you see on TV (except the amber in the amazon probably has less bugs trapped inside). I was reminded of once going to see my friend in a cardiac hospital, he had some strange illness thing that needed an operation (which didn't go smoothly but that's another story), and in the wards near him are all these old overweight men with clogged up hearts, slumped on their beds like a bit of clay, one guy there has tubes that do all the toilet duties for him, I wonder why they had to make those tube transparent. I overhear some people were saying "Pathetic", and "They just wouldn't stop eating the greasy foods would they?". I felt a bit ill, but then that was probably because of the savoloy I ate earlier giving me indigestion. If I ever have a heart attack I'll probably hide somewhere so I'll just die and not have to be an exhibition inside a hospital ward. I want a Chicken Leg Supper. I went to Offbeat in Sheffield and then went to see Camera Obscura in Glasgow last weekend, it was fun. Even when I got thrown out of a club in Glasgow by bouncers for violent drunken disorderly behaviours (like, er, sleeping). On my way back I got caught by the speed camera. Also an idiot who probably fell asleep on the motorway swerved and almost run me off the road and killed me, but that's another story. Long Life and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Tue Nov 27 13:49:23 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:49:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...from a random polish correspondent ;-) Message-ID: <006b01c1774a$8d7dc640$de684cd5@default> dear sinister, as i'm writing a huge crane at the building-site near my house is lifting a very-heavy-looking block of concrete. right now it's dangling right outside my window. in a moment the crane operator is going to have a stroke and lose control over the dangerous machine. the concrete block will then smash my window and kill me on the spot. but that won't happen. ;-) seriously though, i strongly dislike the thought of a MASSIVE block of flats/offices blocking out all the sun from my room. sun.. not much of it lately. but hey - it was snowing yesterday! :) lalala :) and yesterday was also special because... for the first time the polish sinister.. well, not 'massive' yet but generally a threesome, met in its entire threesomeness! ;) maja, kamil, self and some other nice people i know all met at an ace gig (btw, polish bands are becoming better and better, i tell you ;). i generally love gigs and yesterday's one was truly amazing. a few times i found myself holding my breath in awe, and only managing to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen in a normal way when the songs ended (good thing i didn't suffocate! :). the audience gave me a positive surprise too.. waiting for the *very* end of the song before applauding, as if eager to hear all the different shades of the fading sound.. lovely. oops, got a bit carried away there. i'd forgotten some(most?) people are way better at lyrical descriptions than me :) anyway, am going to see this fantastic band (Lenny Valentino is their name, if anyone's interested :) again on thursday, and the 'polish sinister section' is going to meet tomorrow at (surprise, surprise) a yet another gig :) pam param what an action-packed time! and i'm going to meet up with maja tomorrow before the concert, so that we can actually chat a bit :) lallalaalala. if i didn't have an essay to write (for tomorrow) and a Proficiency english exam coming up, i'd be on cloud nine! (and if the building site disappeared/turned into a nice park, too) sssooooo i'd better go and start learning (or perhaps go get the tickets for thursday in advance. yes.) olalalaa/rachola cinnamon :) ps. apologies to everyone i owe tapes to (and to niko, whom i owe cinnamon tea to). they will be sent before the end of the year. promise. psps. ooh and if anyone wanted to hear lenny valentino/other a!c!e! polish bands (some of which are even a little PUNK ROCK!ish ;) and doesn't mind a long wait for a tape from a megadisorganised person.. than.. umm you know what to do :) pspsps. !viva rachels! -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 27 15:02:10 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:02:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: opinions peter Message-ID: <20011127150210.69649.qmail@web14912.mail.yahoo.com> its strange peter but I was thinking the opposite about the tompaulin LP. I really like the band, so Im biased I suppose. I think it is a whole work and the songwriting their best yet. The peel session was lovely. I adore the cover of since yesterday it always makes me smile. Other records to live for ? Camera Obscura. I can't wait. It should be excellent from what Ive already heard of them. smiles Joxx ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 15:53:54 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:53:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura + Tompaulin + Chris Leonard, 5/12/01 Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F801232FA@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> (hope this hasn't been posted already) For those who may be interested, and hopefully there'll be quite a few of you... CAMERA OBSCURA + TOMPAULIN + CHRIS LEONARD are all playing live in London next week! Together! It's happening on Wednesday 5th December at The Spitz, on Commercial street just past Old Spitalfields Market. The nearest tube is Liverpool Street - you can follow this link to a map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=533750&y=181750&zoom =1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?80,70 It's £6/£5 concs to get in, and doors open at 8pm. Call 020 7392 9032 for tickets. It'll be swell! All the above are fantastic, especially Chris Leonard. And I'll be DJing, that's the best bit. See you there? Mark xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 15:56:07 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:56:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 13th Note closing?! Message-ID: <006d01c1775c$1255e440$0e2b7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi all. I heard some rather disturbing news last night. Apparently my beloved 13th Note is on its last legs. This can't be good. I've loved that pub/cafe/club combination since I started hanging out in the lovely carbuncle that is Glasgow. *Feels all sad* - Jase x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_fear66 at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 16:03:32 2001 From: the_fear66 at xxx.com (Matt Powell) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:03:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura + Tompaulin + Chris Leonard, 5/12/01 References: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F801232FA@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> Message-ID: erm, its actually just £5 to get in whoever you are as long as you book in advance. as well as phoning the number below you can also book tickets by emailing bookings at strange-fruit.co.uk and find any more info you need on www.strange-fruit.co.uk stuff on camera obscura can be found at www.theparkandride.co.uk - stuart murdoch produced their last single eighties fan so there's a bit of a belle and sebastian link there....the album biggest bluest hifi is ace too and i'd thoroughly recommend it to all B&S fans. tompaulin stuff is at www.tompaulin.pre.org i think. their new album is also ace. and chris leonard at www.sleekasounds.co.uk download tracing paper if you can - never has a finer song been written about our almost see through friend. i'm dj'ing too but don't let that put you off. sorry to bother people not in London with this. camera obscura are playing other shows around the sountry at that time too. check out the website for more info. Matt x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Casarotto" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:53 PM Subject: Sinister: Camera Obscura + Tompaulin + Chris Leonard, 5/12/01 > (hope this hasn't been posted already) > > > For those who may be interested, and hopefully there'll be quite a few > of you... > > CAMERA OBSCURA + TOMPAULIN + CHRIS LEONARD are all playing live in > London next week! Together! It's happening on Wednesday 5th December at > The Spitz, on Commercial street just past Old Spitalfields Market. The > nearest tube is Liverpool Street - you can follow this link to a map: > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=533750&y=181750&zoom > =1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?80,70 > > It's £6/£5 concs to get in, and doors open at 8pm. Call 020 7392 9032 > for tickets. > > It'll be swell! All the above are fantastic, especially Chris Leonard. > And I'll be DJing, that's the best bit. > > See you there? > Mark xxx > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Tue Nov 27 17:40:27 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:40:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...epilogue Message-ID: <001601c1776a$d85d0ca0$5e684cd5@default> hello for the second time today! i did go out to try and get tickets for thursday's gig... and what a magnificient failure it was. i had checked carefully where the club was on the map - not that far from where i live actually.. i went by tram. i think b&s should have made a t-shirt with a tram. i love them. i even managed to get off on the right stop. hurray! it was this huge busy roundabout, with loads and loads of cars/trams/buses passing, and no traffic lights. i had to cross the street running, because i was scared someone would run me over if i just walked. it worked - no one did run me over (obviously). a few cars even stopped to let me pass. which doesn't change the fact i couldn't find the street, where the club was supposed to be. i walked in the wrong direction for a while. then i turned back. then i walked into another street before suddenly bumping into the right one. 'oh hello!', i exclaimed. 'fancy seeing you here!' i looked around. ooh what a grim and dark area. small grey buildings next to small grey buildings next to a big grey place offering cement, plaster, concrete and sand. hmm. i walked round a bit and found a grey car service station. i walked round a bit more and some lewd old man started talking to me. i escaped. and found myself in front of *another* club. the one i *wasn't* trying to find. it's cube-shaped and grey too, and it used to belong to some factory before being converted to the Central House of Qulture. oh well. i walked back to the other street. naturally, i could try to ask someone to show me the way but a) the people i met were either lewd old men or workers of the car service station b) the club is called 'Bakery'. perhaps it's in a building which used to be a bakery, all the best clubs used to be something else in the past. ;) how could i come up to somebody and ask: 'excuse me, do you know where the bakery is? oh, it's a club by the way.' hmm. :) so i decided to walk right to the end of that short dark street. i was so focused on trying to make out the building's numbers that i stepped into a deep puddle. i didn't even feel my whole left foot was wet - perhaps it was because the water instantly froze on me. ah well. i was about to concede defeat and go back to the scary roundabout when - lo and behold - i went into some gateway and there, behind a massive metal door was 'The Bakery'(!) only it was closed. i tried using the huge knocker but to no avail. no-one showed up to sell me tickets. that's what happens to an avid music fan like my poor self. so i went back home and called up my musician friend to cheer myself up and ask him what time his band were playing tomorrow. he wasn't sure. :) anyway, i'd better start studying (and essay writing ;-) take care and sorry for bothering you all twice today(!) olalala -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 19:58:35 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:58:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: mon petit cowboy Message-ID: <20011127195835.98008.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> hey-lo sinisters well at the moment i'm very frustrated with the international telephone services. how difficult does it have to be to call a mobile phone in estonia? very, apparently. the phone gods are laughing at ulla and i. well.......we'll see who comes off victorious in the end. juju said some very nice things about me and my posts. THANKS JUJU! YOU'RE ACE. apparently pablo neruda was quoted in someone's post. ahhh.....nothing goes better with, well....anything actually, than pablo neruda. he is a true voice of the earth and of its desperate creatures. EVERYONE SHOULD READ EVERYTHING BY PABLO NERUDA. especially the love sonnets. i'm not asking, i'm telling. trust me. just relax. and what the gentleman said at the end about nerudas poetry being the easiest way to get into an indie girls pants.....absolutely true. he just writes the most incredibly romantic poetry ever written! in my humble opinion of course. you know what? i just found out that the girl i love (and who loves me back) has the exact same birthday as me! that's right! the fabulous sillustrationist ULLA METS (sorry darling for name-dropping you, but the world must see all your beautiful sillustrations) and myself were both born on january 4th. why we didnt realize this until now i dont know. in music news: --i'm getting the new b&s single tonight after work. --i'm in love with camera obscura and i'm horribly jealous of all you folk who actually LIVE near them and can see them play live. --everyone should go out and buy (i think i've mentioned this before) Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions. stunning. leaves me speechless really. --also everyone should go out and buy a cd of Chet Baker. he's a dreamy jazz singer. --anyone who would like the URL to hear a song of my own creation with me and my friend hiromi singing, just email me. in the book nook today: j.d. salinger of course. still reading : seymour, an introduction. also i'm continuously rereading p.g. wodehouse stories. you should too! in the cafeteria: wheat thins and dried apricots. with water to drink. i'm curious to know what everyones feelings are on the film "basquiat". why? i dont know, its something to talk about. personally i love that film. the sinister translation game is well under way and should be completed sometime by next ..........winter, hopefully. hey come on! it takes time! i'm anxiously awaiting my turn at the rachel mixtape. oh, the possiblities....... *cue dr. evil laugh* anyway i'm totally rambling and boring you all to death....i'm afraid my wit juice is running dry, so i'm going to go splash some good strong coffee in my face and see if that helps. lots of love and fun games like hide and seek in the dark......caleb ben aka raw ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 20:03:08 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:03:08 EST Subject: Sinister: i'm waking up to sinister Message-ID: <9e.1e0649bd.29354b7c@cs.com> Pardon the cheesy subject line please. Anyway... There was a time not in the distant past when I would actually delete all the Sinister emails I got *gasp*. Now while I now that I deserve to suffer an eternity of listening to Metallica records at 66 rpm for my sins, I beg that you all will be a forgiving lot. Now that I'm not only reading them all (really), but I'm writing, I feel like a better person. Yeah I'm going to get to new single this evening yayaya it should brighten up this otherwise stupidly dull day. I'm gonna go for a run first though, which could be bad cos I haven't run in almost a month. Oh well you gotta live somehow. peace bri +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 21:52:37 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:52:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ...maybe it wasn't that bad... Message-ID: sorry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 21:43:51 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:43:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Avant-Goth and the patheticisms of intellectuals. Message-ID: <20011127221440.PLOG692.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.252.197.56]> A little kid at school asked me if I was a goth. Hahahahaha! Funny. I was wearing a corduroy shirt and flared corduroy trousers and a cardigan at the time. This prompts me for a new subject at school, called "Youth Studies". You would get taught about slang and what swearwords mean, and then be shown pictures, like TEACHER:This is an indiekid, now can anyone tell me what kind of trainers indiekids wear? PUPIL 1:They all wear different ones with very small logos 'cos they want to be different TEACHER:Now, where would you go if you were going to a Goth party and wanted to look like everyone else there? PUPIL 2:Camden. TEACHER:A Merit mark to Susie! For your homework, you have to write a brief summary of 5 diiferent youth subcultures: Indiekids, Goths, Nu-Metal fans, Rudeboys and Skaters. That's for thursday. It would be cool wouldn't it. And then little kids would know I wasn't a goth. Goths are irritating, I know, but has anyone else met a phenomenenenenen even more irritating? The Wannabe Goth. These are people who think: Hmmmmm, I want to be different and stand out from the crowd, so, they buy some bracelets and carefully construct rumours around themselves involving "Chemical imbalances" in their brain. And talk about Pentagrams and listen to System of a Down. These are truly the twats of this earth. What really irritates me, though, Is that they don't like go for the proper goth thing, they just sort of make a really half-arsed attempt to get attention. If they were proper goths, they'd get piercings and wear far far too much mascara and really be goths but they are just to cowardly to do that. they want to stand out, but without being called freaks. I really, really dislike them. I bought a CD yesterday. it's quite good, but to be honest, I would never have bought it if it had been just by any band and I'd heard it on the Radio. The second track is great, I dance around the room to it but all in all, the experiance is underwhelming considering what amazing music they have produced in the past. Yeah, it's Ok, but nothing too great and for a B&S single it ain't up to much. OK, I'm off now to buy a shield to fend off the spiky mail that will fly at me after thse comments. !Viva Rachels! Rachel Pancake/Joe Vester P.S. I'm gonna have pancakes for breakfast tomorrow, by the way, as a tribute to my female alter-ego. P.P.S. Inside every lanky boy is a fat girl who loves pancakes. P.P.P.S Not to suggest anything _whatsoever_ by that. I'm not specifying what it doesn't suggest, just so as to keep all options covered. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Tue Nov 27 22:51:50 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:51:50 +0200 Subject: Sinister: You were lost, once before, on a day much like this Message-ID: <002401c17796$1a327a40$d2dc673e@wonderer> A few nights ago I asked my best friend, "So what shall we console ourselves with? They thought that some day things will best better?" I was feeling desperate. About a month ago my life seem to be getting better. I was falling in love and I got a puppy, and for a while the world seemed brighter. Then came a night when I listed all the things that should have been making me happy, and found them to be quite a lot... and discovered I was feeling sad and worried. I thought it would go away. On a magically sunny afternoon two days later, me and my friend are walking with the sea on one side and the city on the other. We had walked out of the cinema to find ourselves standing in front of the sea and opposite of some cranes. And of the sun, who seemed to be everywhere, in the sky and on the sea and reflecting on the first line of buildings of the city. It made me suddenly understand what the phrase 'leave the earth behind as you watch into the sun' might mean. It also reminded me of something I had read in a book, something like that this world is the most powerful one. Or it might have said dominant. Because it has gravity. Walking in the sunlight felt like floating. And yet. It was a reminder of the essence and the nature of this world, and how we can't escape it -like gravity. And as a boy told me once -while kissing me-, gravity keeps us from flying, but also keeps us from falling off. When we find ourselves in the wrong hemisphere, with our feet where your head should be. Somehow I know exactly what he meant. And walking into the magical sunlight after two hours of sitting in a dark room... it just said everything about it. Still, the world felt dark. However, I guess that's what I console myself with. I was going to talk about the things that made me feel desperate that night, not in a "why does my life suck so much" way but in a "how good can things get" way, in a "can we ever be happy" way. Sir David said : "I have thought a lot about happiness. It seems to me that happiness is the ability to look just far enough ahead. To strike a balance between doing what will make me feel good right now, and what will make me feel good tomorrow about the person I have been today. If anyone has any ideas on how to actually do this - answers on the back of a postcard, please." And I just wish happiness is something more than that. And I guess that's the reason I was feeling desperate that night. Postcards -it's one of my favourite words, though as far as I can remember I have never send or received one. One of this days and as a fight was ending, I said 'everyone is sad for some reason'. Actually, I typed it. Then I stood there staring at the screen, wondering how you can just let things lie around in your mind without putting them into words for years, surprised once more by the effect it has one me. Cause I remembered my four-and-a-half-year-old self lying in bed and realising that. And not being sad about it. Just wanting to find out everything about it. In a way, that's all I have been doing. And it probably is the reason why I have been asking so many people so many questions. About so many things. Maybe even I have been asking too many people too many questions. About too many things. Sir David also said: Sometimes you see between and through things. Sometimes this makes you feel warm, at others: cold. It still surprises me when I see my thoughts expressed by someone else and delivered to me by Sinister. And it happens quite a lot. And that's one of the best things I've read lately. Maybe just because I had been thinking about it a lot. Although it doesn't tell you what to do with that. I've spent quite a lot of time wishing people could like each other more, while at the same time accusing myself of having childish wishes. I know some people can't like each other. I know I dislike some people too. I know that maybe sometimes I don't even have good reasons for doing so. But... Maybe it comes from wondering too much, but since this summer I've gained some kind of insight into people's motives and feelings, I don't read your thoughts (usually not that is, and when it happens, it doesn't really make me really happy...anyway), I just happen to know a lot of times what people feel and how it makes them act the way they act. Sometimes I judge people... and sometimes I don't... I'm not sure what I want to do. Though not always. Maybe when I grow up a bit more I won't judge anyone. But what I do know is that this knowledge changes the way I view things. And it taught me that everybody have their reasons for being who they are and doing what they do. Which might not justify what they're doing... but it makes it easier to accept. I guess. So... please try to be understanding. And then -as Will once said- supportive. Sometimes the first comes after the second, or it might not come at all -but I suggest you try it anyway. The aforementioned friend used to be a boyfriend. And one cold windy night aand after having watched another film, I found myself walking behind him, and crying -cause he hated me. And wondering what I have been doing so wrong and I have lost almost every friend I've had (here). And at the same time knowing that -without it meaning that I haven't done mistakes- I'm proud of what I am. While he is shouting, to me probably as there's no one else around, that he's fed up with being himself. Well -we fight mostly cause he's depressed like this... but... (and that's one of the things that makes us be best friends, I guess) I remember me saying to him in September that I don't see the point in telling him what I think he's doing wrong, that I'll just love him which will give him the strength to get over it, since if he's doing something wrong in time he'll see it himself. If I had lived up to that, we probably wouldn't have been fighting. In case this explains what I said above any better. I just read that paragraph again and it sounds desperate... or something quite similar for which I don't know the word. Maybe it was that bad indeed... but it doesn't matter now as a few days later and after yet another film he called me and later he came round. He was quite sad... as if he hadn't forgiven me... as always. He brought me wine and watched me cook and listened to me moan (about fighting with a boy). Then he disappeared. As always. -Oooooooh. The athenian picnic. I hear it's getting bigger and bigger. Which makes me really happy. CAuse the 24th of March happens to be my 21st birthday. Hmmm, no, it's not a coincidence. If you want to blame someone you can blame Danny. I didn't do anything. But I wouldn't blame him, cause that's going to be like, better than the best birthday party I could ever have. Maybe better than if I went to Scotland. Mainly cause it will be sunny. Trust me, the weather will probably be exactly as Joanna describes it. It's exactly what I imagoned it to be like too. I'm always complaining about living in Greece but I'm sure it's a great place for a holiday, especially if you don't come in the summer. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Tue Nov 27 23:25:00 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:25:00 EST Subject: Sinister: i love my new b&s ep! Message-ID: <51.14f0fe8a.29357acc@cs.com> Wow Two Posts In One Day :D Anyway so yeah I got the "I'm Waking Up To Us" ep right now and I see why lots of people are dissing it cos it's erm "different". That said, I say it's absolutely Brilliant and yes that is a Captial "B". It's truly wonderful to see the lads and lasses branching out into something truly different after all these years. Don't get me wrong I love ALL in the B&S universe, but I think that this ep and I shall become close friends. Lovely pics of cute doggies on the sleeve too, like. bri +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Tue Nov 27 23:30:15 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:30:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: An ending, though not the one I had in mind Message-ID: <004101c1779b$7861dc00$d2dc673e@wonderer> Never laugh at people who post something before it's finished. It might happen to you one day. And follow Ally's advice. Fill in the address last. I remembered that. Cause it was in one of my favourite posts ever. But I didn't do it. Argh. *hides quite embarrassed* Anyway... I can't even remember if I wanted to say anything else. Maybe, that I need to stop posting. Most people take half an hour for a post. Or one hour. I take days. A lot of them sometimes. And then what do I do? I hit send before it's done. *sighs* Well I think I have to get over it, don't I. If I wanted to say anything else, I'll just let you know... some other time. Ooo and the picnic. I think I meant to say something better about it. That why there was this biiiiiig space before that paragraph. Because it shouldn't be there in the final version. But since I have already said something... I'll stop moaning about it now. So... just love, and keep the faith, Dimitra +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 00:19:39 2001 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew Churchman) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:19:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: New EP cover...... Message-ID: <20011128001939.68254.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> so I pick up the new EP today. Although I haven't had time to totally absorb every nuance, it's great, and I deffinately have no complaints. I was going to write in asking though, where's stuart, bobby, stevie, mick, and wee chris on the inserts? There's Richard, Isabel and Sarah with dogs and cars, but not the rest of them. Then I got to thinking and well everyone else has already graced the covers of their respected releases (stuart "3,6,9", chris "bwtas", mick and bobby "j,d") and stevie is on the poster for the the ep too. so I figured out my own problem. Also if anyone cares, "City of Daughters" Destroyer's 2nd album has recentely been rereleased and is one of the most amazing records ever recorded. ever. --- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 01:11:45 2001 From: stringbeanjean1 at xxx.com (juju) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:11:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: listen to me, i sound like i'm 13 Message-ID: <20011128011145.53128.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> halo sinister.. i am running awfully late for my nightly piano gig, but i had to tell you something: he called me.. from pulp. in cambridge. just a few hours ago. i work in an icebox, otherwise known as an IT room, and my mobile gets no signal in there, so i missed the call.. but you see, it is some sort of tradition we have, to call each other from shows that the other cannot attend for some reason.. so it's like we were there.. he called me from radiohead as i was lying half asleep in bed. i called him from new order as he was stuck at work on a project. then i called him from ivy on my birthday cos he was too exhausted from staying over to late the night before to make it.. (he lives a few hours away and had to drive straight to work, you know..) and then there was the request he put in for a cover, so i called him from my show when we did "your silent face".. so it was his turn to call i guess.. the song he chose to call me for today was "something changed".. as i was racing home to change attire, the traffic seemed to slow me up in time to hear through the static- that familiar melody.. and i felt my fat bottom lip suddenly morph into a thin tight line pointing from one ear to the other like a tennis net strewn across my face, which promptly forced tears to shoot out from my eyes like tennis balls from a machine. somebody backhand me, please. i am fighting with myself over the question "is 1:00 to early to call somebody, even in the uk?" arg. the longer i wonder, the later it gets. blame it on Am�lie. i saw it last night. maybe it struck too many harmonious chords in me, and now i have to sing about it. but i woke up feeling a smile inside- like somehow the day wasn't as broken as usual.. ? he flies home tomorrow. i can't wait. i just had to tell you he called, cos it means that much to me. "where would we be now if we'd never met? would i be singing this song to someone else instead? i don't know, but like you just said.. something changed.." *sigh* ok gotta jet hearts, juju __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 01:52:08 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:52:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ain't nobody that can sign like me Message-ID: Hello sinister. I trust most thanksgivings have gone well. Mine was a casual affair. I spent more time at my parents' house than I have in awhile, and it was good. Didn't feast too much, but relax too much I did. Just 4 days off and it was enough To send me into my "I wanna be a housewife" conundrum I get into now and then. I don't know how "wife" enters into it, but I do want to be a house. Hmmm?. Happy cheers mate day to the rest of you lot. Hee. Today I got some sad news. A former co-worker of mine, Beth, passed away this last Friday. Her death has me thinking?. You see, just over a year ago she said she was going to move to another town, get Another job. She claimed to be doing this for her daughter, who has special needs. Her daughter resided in a local group home, and they aren't so good around here (I know, I worked for one for a few years, local mental health is bad here, thanks to our governor, and major cuts have been made, especially in my county). This sweet mom wanted to move to a larger town, She'd been investigating some outstanding homes for her daughter there. She said she wanted to make sure Her daughter had a better, stable life, and plus, they had more relatives in that lil' area of the world. Within a few months of her moving, word gets out that she has colon cancer. I spoke with someone last week that told me she was in remission and was promoted on her job. Now, BAM. These situations always sneak up on me like that. It makes no sense. Not that it didn't sneak up on her, being in remission and all?but you understand. Now I feel/think that Beth knew all along what she was doing, and just didn't want us to know About her cancer. That sweet lady?If that's the case, why did she choose to go through that alone? How strong can you be? People often amaze me. This is the 5th person I've known at my work who has died of cancer. In 3 years only. Growing older is wearing me out. Can I be 17 again, just for a little while? Please? So, no Chicago for me this weekend. It's my mom's birthday AND I've had plans to go out with some girls on this night for a long time now. Can't let them down, now, can I? NP: Billy and Wilco "way over yonder in the minor key" Ooh, lovely. I'm still in major Billy Bragg mode. So, some wacky virus shit has been going down lately. Check out what happened to me? Last week I was downloading songs from Morpheus like crazy, and being the trusting Idiot that I am didn't have any anti-virus software going. For poops and giggles I thought I'd get "I hate Morrissey" by Ween. I don't hate Morrissey, but I hadn't heard an idiot Ween song in years, And thought I'd get a giggle. Later that afternoon, I went back to my computer to see what songs Completed their journey onto my hard drive. I clicked the mean Ween file to open and play in winamp, when? Oh dear. Right before my eyes every one of my mp3 files turned into Some vbs dos bullshit. Not good. It was the love letter worm. Moral of the story? Ween fans are evil, OR, some corrupted, sad, Bedroom-devoted Morrissey fan has finally found a way to get back At the world for all of the pricks and teasing he's ensued due to his love for Morrissey. Either way, it's not fair to me! Hell, I've loved Morrissey since I was 12 and ran to the mall After babysitting to pick up the queen is dead on tape! Egad! Basquiat, asked RAW. Well, yes. I adore that film. I also adore his works. What I'd really like is one of those Andy Warhol vs. Jean Michelle posters for that show they did. Those boys in boxing gloves, how great! Some really great music in that film as well. And, finally, postcards. I got one a few years that still hangs on my fridge. Some friends trekked across Europe by rail, and after their stop in Ireland I got a beautiful little card, which states, "Guinness is good for you". Awwww Yeah! Take care everyone, Amy(jacks) p.s. I love the new ep. too cute! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 02:38:26 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:38:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Style is about how you carry something off. Fashion is just marketers' wank Message-ID: I still haven't stopped grinning. Why? Because I've got the new single, and it's brilliant, a nice cheer-up at the tag end of an annoying day. The thing that strikes me is that you can just feel the playfullness, the pure fun that just bleeds infectiously from the speakers. Look at that cover and the inserts, do they not scream mischievous fun? As I was trying to explain what I thought to my friend Bryan, who was in the car with me, I was trying to put into words the appeal of the new single, but he was the one who hit it on the head when he said: "Charm" That's what Belle and Sebastian have got; "Charm". Good old honest charm. It's the charm of the pretty girl who's face lights up when she smiles, or the charm of the mischievous grin of a boy as he whispers an offcolour joke into said girl's ear. I've heard a bit of talk about how Stuart's voice sounds "strange" on "I'm Waking Up to Us" and I don't understand it. I don't think there's anything strange about it, I just think he's working within the style of the song, and I think it sounds great. Frankly I'm in awe how much control he has over his voice nowadays, compare the range on the new single to a piece like "Boy Done Wrong Again", it's astonishing the skill he's been showing. And the lyrics! Ace! "I'm Waking Up to Us" is a smart song about love and letting go, utterly well done. It's a great song about growing up and moving on and I'm just grinning like an idiot from how completely well done it is. "I Love my Car" is more charming playfullness from the group. Come on now, you can't help but smile at this, you can almost hear how much fun the band's having. This is flawless pop at its best. "Marx and Engels" is worth the price of admission just for the line; "She's writing in the style of any riot girl", let alone the absolutely lovely vocals from all involved. Fucking brilliant, and I can only shuffle my feet and hold up my bowl and croak in a little Oliver Twistian voice; "Can I have some more, sir?" I wasn't sure how "I Love my Car" would come off, I didn't mind it live, but I found it kind of bland next to some of the other pieces like "Magic of a Kind Word", but here the band just carries it off in fine style and I'm glad they used this number. Charm, good natured charm, that's what makes this so perfect, from the cover to the songs. I'm sure this outting isn't to everyone's tastes (and I'm sure there are still people banging on that B&S have never matched TIGERMILK) but if nothing else, the pure fun of it all should at least soothe the nerves of the naysayers. No sad bastard music on this one, even though the title track tells a crushingly human story. I want posters of all the band member's with the dogs. I especially get a grin out of Richard's inside shot, something about the look on his face. Of course, I'm sure we can all agree that the ladies both look lovely. There's a lesson for the lot of us; charm and style and an honest grin will carry the day every time. I had more to say, but instead of banging on about myself and my day, I think I'll just curl up with a book and a grin and listen to some charming music. Now, if only I had some pretty girl to curl up with and whisper offcolour jokes to my night would be perfect... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 05:45:51 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:45:51 -0600 Subject: Sinister: There's poison under the sink of course, and enough formaldehyde to kill a horse Message-ID: Hello everyone, It's been a while. The past few weeks have been strange. Does anyone know what it's like to feel completely and utterly helpless? I do. Now. I've lacked all sorts of motivation, and because of it, I can't get anything done at all. It's just been an endless parade of cigarettes and laying around. Also some Buffy thrown into the mix, which I'm just now getting addicted to. It's awful. I'm broke, so I'm not eating right (unless Jeno's oven baked pizzas for 99 cents and a Southern Up to drink count). I'm not getting nearly enough sleep, mostly because I lack the motivation to go to my room and sleep. I've barely left the house, except for school and to hang out for hours on end at my favourite record shop, while the guy from Widnes mocks my love of 'wimp-pop'. Sadly, the record shop is usually the highlight of my day. I haven't even really felt like listening to Belle and Sebastian, so I haven't. It's just Magnetic Fields and the Pet Shop Boys (the new DVD is great by the way), and that fails to get to me like it used to. For a long period of time, anyway. Finals and papers and applications are hanging over my head, and I can't stand it. Worse than that, I can't get ANY of it done. I planned on working on all that stuff hardcore over Thanksgiving break, but I did virtually none of it. I just loafed around and felt shitty. I tried to break up the monotony by going to Birmingham (not THAT one) to see the Strokes again. The 48 minutes was very enjoyable, but that and listening to Tom Waits the night before were the absolute highlights of the week. And I didn't even finish the Tom Waits album. Ah well, bitch bitch bitch. I thanked the Maker for the new single, which I should have been able to get yesterday. However, my favourite record shop's order has been screwed up, so I have to wait until tomorrow at 2 pm at the latest for it. I can't buy it anywhere else, because then I'll feel dirty. God must hate me. Speaking of God, Ian mentioned my favourite movie, The Seventh Seal. There is something intensely moving about the knight staring into the girl who is about to be burned's eyes. Was that proper grammar? I just tonight caught up on 67 sinister emails, and now I'm writing to you all as my reward (and your punishment). Jeremy, don't apologize (if that's what you were doing) for your comments on betrayal. I love it when people tell it like it is. Is that how it really is then? This city is closing in on me. I'm horribly tired of it. I wish I could just up and move. Although on the way to the strokes, me and my friends took back roads all the way through Alabama, and we got to see the real local flavour of the 2nd most polluted state in the union (too bad Mississippi had to let them detonate a nuclear device). There was a large high school on the side of the road that is now abandoned. There was a large oak tree growing through the roof of the gym. It was absolutely inspring. It's near the town where they have the annual catfish festival. How exciting! Enough about me. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 08:13:43 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 05:13:43 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Light up your Christmas tree Message-ID: <20011128081343.48810.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com> I hate Christmas. I hate this time when people are obligated to get along with others they don't like, or they don't even know the names. I consider Christmas time hypocrit and I hate the end of the year. Oh sorry, but I needed to complain a little. This is the time when things go bad in college, when you have to try to get a better job (because this one really sucks) and when you think of all those people who live on the streets and will spend the 25th of December alone. And there's always someone who says to you: "Oh, you should be such a happy person, cause you have a perfect life!" I don't blame them, but everybody should know the others got problems. I'll probably spend this day sleeping, cause the person who used to be with me on Christmas time...was my ex-boyfriend, and probably my current boyfriend won't even call me to gimme a bloody stupid "Happy Christmas". Sorry for acting like this, but December is arriving, and it really makes me get depressed, angry, afraid of what can happen. And I know most people love this day, so please don't blame me for hating it. I hope you all have a good week and have fun with the new EP. Brazilians are still waiting for it to be released. Hugs! Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 08:24:36 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:24:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:24:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000101c177e6$32cf14a0$49c57ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, New single IWUTU may soon laugh every time I hear chortling Bassoon behind instrumental break Mike Hurst solo re-releases ILMC swings like an orang-utan's bollocks clarinet solo over the Dexy's thumping horn lines MAE Daft old bloke recommends yet another record shocker Papa M folky, biblical half-finished tunes, but I love it not everyone's cup of tea, sample http://www.papa-m.com/ Northwest passage (reprise of Shark Cage's Arundel) like Allman's! David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 08:29:11 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:29:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry Message-ID: <000201c177e8$ba021060$49c57ad5@oemcomputer> Oops. I guess I too should follow Cookie's advice & fill in the address last. Apologies for sending stupid draft to bore the pants off 1500 listees. Sorry Embarrassed Feeling silly David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 10:33:34 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:33:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The boy worn thong again Message-ID: I am writing today mainly to apologise for the last 483 e-mails I have posted onto Sinister because they were all shite. Sorry. I like how the list has suddenly turned into depression central. I'm going to bitch up the party now by telling you how great my life is: Earlier I bought a sausage sandwich with extra butter, that I personally put on, and then I ate it. It was rather tasty. That was it. Oooh yeah and I got the new B&S single too, in an attempt to not look like a pasty faced vegan geek who buys B&S singles I also bought the new Best-of Terrorvision album, one hand holding a dripping sausage and egg sandwich and said ROCK ON whilst paying for both items (the two CDs not the sausage sandwich) with my Platinum Credit Card. The girls at the counter were suitably impressed and gave me a snog, and then invited me for a coffee at the storage room, I wondered for a few minutes how she has coffee in the storage room before we got to the storage room and all secrets were revealed. Anyway, my point was that I bought the B&S new single and it is great. I even had it on last night to put me to bed rather than my time-honoured technique of listening to sweet Anna Jones' voice on BBC News 24. My friend from university had recently joined the ranks of Maths teachership. He teaches in a local school in Nottingham now, I got rather excited by the news actually, shaping peoples lives and stuff innit. I asked him to give loads of detention to the quiet shy boy in the class until he speaks, to prevent him from turning into a quiet shy man when he's older so he might get to pull, my friend's reply was that "Ken he'll pull anyway - he's not you", heh fair enough I guess. I wish my teachers gave me detention for talking shite.. wait, they did, it just didn't work. Love and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 28 11:12:40 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:12:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dammit...my town sucks badly!!! Message-ID: grrr.... i live in rhyl, north wales. so yesterday i went shopping for 'i'm waking up to us'... dammit..... nowhere in rhyl has it....i go to our price [stupidly i know cos they suck and only stock hip hop drivel]...wo are 'belle & sebstian?' tossers. ok then...i went on to the other record store in rhyl...kavern record. now theses guys are normally kool.they talk to me and they love pulp. but no....they didnt have it in. so now i am in a mood. if anyone feels nice and wants to give me a copy of it feel free to donate it freely to me. all donations kindly accepted. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rich im not living im just killing time +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Wed Nov 28 11:58:22 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:58:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Winding down to The Smiths Message-ID: <005601c17803$fb200820$c528893e@fsnet.co.uk> Listening to The Smiths while the batteries on your walkman fade is a strangely exhilarating experience. Especially when you're on a bus, stuck in traffic after an early morning rain storm. The sound of Morrissey's voice slowly winding down and fading, the backing distorted in the background is wonderful. It really gives the wet miserable outdoors a new context. Forgive me if this experience doesn't translate well into writing, I just thought it had to be written down. I got the new B&S single yesterday and it's great great great. I think 'Marx and Engels' is my favourite track, but they are all good. The first to tracks can also be added to my ever-growing Party Music category with which I can oppose the evils of Destiny's Chilled that my housemates so often inflict. They told me yesterday that a lot of my music is rubbish because it has no beat. Sometimes something you can dance to is the last thing that you need. And kids, feel free to check out www.ciahq.fsnet.co.uk/fastcow/ , there are 1500 of you, and it's only had 402 hits total, so I'm sure a few more of you could manage a visit ;). Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 28 12:15:03 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:15:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm Reporting Back To Us Message-ID: <002201c17806$7214fec0$0e62253e@pjmillerwanadoo> What do we think of the NEW RECORD? I'm a bit disappointed, but I don't know why. I think it's GRATE, but as CHRISSIE HYNDE would say, "something is gained, something is lost". But what about that photo of Isobel on the back cover, eh? PHWOOAR! Her coat is the same colour as the dog's nob she's holding. I mean, the dog she's holding's nob. By now, Struan and Shaggy are GRATE MATES. Struan will go round and call for Shaggy, but Shaggy will already know he's coming, because of all his close circuit cameras. Beautiful women will feed them both grapes and accompany them to the jacuzzi. They will go for a ride on Shaggy's luxury yacht and shag some birds. Struan will invite Shaggy round to his house to watch the ladies' keep fit on Thursday mornings. Shaggy will help Struan lay the trestle tables for a coffee morning. And so on and so forth. Ad nauseum. I can't really criticize B&S for repeating themselves when we must have had this paragraph, or variations on it, hundreds of times over the past five years, or however long it is. Perhaps I've hit the nail on the head. Did anyone go to Later at Jools Holland's? Here is a message that bounced back the other day: > Here are some links: > > http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,51244,00.html > > http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Reviews/Reviews_Story/0,1069,9014,00.html= > > > The first one features a picture of Stuart in some 'scotch' trousers, = > not unlike those favoured by Miles Hunt of The Wonder Stuff circa 'I'm = > Building Up My Problems to the Size of a Cow', although he had a jacket = > too. Higher budget.. The second link features a frankly terrifying = > photgraph of our heroes communing with canines. Perhaps the RSPCA should = > receive some of the proceeds from that charity gig. > > Pinefox: > > >>>I think Sister Disco has been on fine form. Her poem > in the styles of Lloyd Cole was little, or large, > short of magnificent. I think some of the research was > from PaperCuts #2, mind you. > > Ah yes, the lengthy essay that almost single-handedly started the Lloyd = > Cole revival. Said revival has recently resulted in the release of TWO = > new Lloyd Cole albums, one of which is instrumentals. I saw them in the = > window of my local record store. It seems like a dream now. Has Lloyd = > Cole released two albums at once? Or have I started having Lloyd Cole = > dreams? > > >>>What songs? We should Debate this. > > I suppose 'Dancing Horses' makes it; 'Killing Moon'; > the one about the chandelier, for Steady Mike factor; > and - I don't know; they did underachieve, didn't > they? Or - overachieve? Either way. The Electrafixion > 45 'Low Down' was surprisingly good, though. > > Here is my Bunnymen Top Four in culinary guise: > > 1) The Cooker > 2) Never Stop (Bistotheque) > 3) Bring on the Dumpling Horses > 4) The Kipling Moon (All Night Version) > > I think The Back of Love is better than Bring on the Dancing Horses = > really, and the one about a chandelier is a must. Yes, they did = > underachieve. But endearingly so. Four songs is a bit harsh, I'll take = > Crystal Days 1979-1999 as it is, crap and all. I'm not very familiar = > with Electrafixion. Will Sargeant says it was like Tin Machine - 'I = > didn't even bother checking that out 'cos I knew it'd be crap' - or = > something like that. I think the Bunnymen probably had more in common = > with contemporary synth bands than their fellow guitar manglers. That's = > what I think. For me, the highlight of the Velvet Underground Bootleg Sessions TheQuine Tapes is NEW AGE. I thought the film BASQUIAT was good, but it's not a patch on the excellent book WIDOW BASQUIAT or the film BEFORE NIGHT FALLS, by the same director. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Wed Nov 28 12:37:16 2001 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:37:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Big Skirts, Innit? In-Reply-To: <005601c17803$fb200820$c528893e@fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011128123716.22793.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Evening chaps! Political Correctness wrote: > Listening to The Smiths while the batteries on your walkman fade is a > strangely exhilarating experience. FANTASTIC isn't it! It's even better when the batteries run out and you can stop listening to that whinging old git with flowers stuck up his arse. I've been listening to a tape of MIXED SONGS: good bits are Durutti Column, XTC and McCarthy. GEE, I like McCarthy. I don't like the Smiths. OR the Essex Green, those b'stards. I threw slices of LEMON at them when they played Englands Trendy London. > I got the new B&S single yesterday and it's great great great. I disagree but what the heck. I quickly glimpsed at the cover and thought that my lovely flatmate had picked up another Tijuana Brass LP (bear in mind I do not know if she actually HAS any) but CORRR it was Sarah Martin! Hoorah for Sarah and her Bassett Hound. Is it a Bassett Hound? Also, my favourite Tijuana Brass LP is surely Tamla Goes Tijuana. What's yours? I'd love to see a TIJUANA BRASS LP OF CHRYS LYNYRD COVERS. Bye bye, Sarah ===== Write to Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/group/starsdeluxe "luxe, calme, et volupte" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 13:59:43 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:59:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I promise this is the last you'll hear from me... Message-ID: Right...the events of the past few days have turned into a hazy shade of winter, I think I must've got some snow in my eyes. As far as posts go, mine suck. But the rest of you are fab (yes R.J. Gillanders, I used the word "fab"). Something that didn't seem to cross my mind in the instant of postage this week was that I was perhaps biting feeding hands and offending friends (not to mention a plethora of unknowns). So, as a result I'd like to apologise properly (but succinctly...hopefully) to you all. You (meaning anyone who's reading and anyone who's not) are not the one's who I wanted to paint as evil. Infact, I thought quite the opposite, contrary to the babble that was spewed forth previously. I think in future I might attempt to make it a little clearer that some people I know (non-sinisterines thankfully) burned me (metaphorically speaking, though I wouldn't put it past them sometimes). And just because I haven't the gumption to tell them that they made me feel like shite to their faces doesn't mean that you should all be "flamed" unintentionally or otherwise. So, umm yeah...that's it I guess...I just wanted you all to know that things came out wrong and I'm sorry. If anyone feels the need for a more in depth explanation or discussion, which I assume you don't as I seem to have done the topic to death myself, I think it might be wise to do it off list so as to avoid clogging the inboxes and archives more than absolutely necessary. Well, that'll do for now. Jeremy ps. I just re-read this mail and realised that it's amazingly self-obsessed. But I guess that's not really surprising for me at the moment. pps. I also figure I'm at "that point" where a sinisterine finds that a break is needed, for their own sake and that of the list combined. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 14:06:14 2001 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.com (Daplyn Elizabeth) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:06:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hey Mr DJ Message-ID: <8CE702C232760243B95B5ADBE849E3474BB9CD@CWMBSMAIL01.eu.thmulti.com> Once again: bienvenue, wilkommen and good afternoon to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury. A cautionary note: this email contains griping. That Muse cover of Feeling Good that's all over the radio like a rash at the moment - Nina Simone must be spinning in her black-suede-lined coffin. Has she, in fact, *passed over*? Must have: wild-livin' jazz laydee = tragic early death and guaranteed legendary status. What's _really_ annoying about the present cover is that I can't help singing along and putting in the descending bass line that those pesky nu-rock tykes have forgotten to record. Which makes people look at me strangely. Tchah. It's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life, and I very much doubt that Matt Bellamy is feeling good. Do nu-rockers buy their skinny black jeans from the same shops nu-metallers get their unfeasibly wide blue ones from, or are there separate universes of emporia for such musical hair-splitting? What's with the adulation of indie boys who aren't actually fantastic singers, just good at wailing, having *discovered* themselves at 6th form parties whilst ripped to the tits on Diamond White? I mean, possessing a less-than-impressive falsetto range and howling like a bleedin' banshee does _not_ equal Grand Opera (Grand Guignol possibly). As if that's a good thing to aspire to in the first place. 'Operatic' singing involves some kind of breath control, for one thing. Gets my goat, it really does. Shag Pop - bang on the nail, my son, whoever came up with that one (sorry, no web access at work, otherwise my anal nature would force me to cross-reference to the Nth). It's that classy sleaziness (or Faded Glamour, for fans of Animals That Swim) that gets me every time. Mmm the ineffable allure to a nicely-dragged up liberal girl of louche pop songs performed by appetisingly lank young men. Also, the presence of a french horn or two on a record is pretty much guaranteed to get it sounding tasty. Who's that jazz chap the film Young Man With A Horn is about? Heh. I may well have gone on about Tindersticks before but, frankly, I love them and their filthy minds. Drunkenly staggering (with ballet-worthy poise) along the fine line between sweeping melody and bombastic arse, or sparse arrangement and lacklustre texture, is, well, kind of difficult. And yet listening to Cherry Blossoms never fails to leave me staring blankly into dusty space (3 a.m., six feet down, already up with the lark). Which is why I can't listen to the second album while driving. On the other hand, it can all go horribly wrong in the world of Shag Pop: see My Life Story for evidence. There's a routine Bill bailey does in which he describes the efforts of a juvenile bandmate to emulate (upon the synthesised keyboard) JS Bach as played by Rick Wakeman, but who ends up sounding like the Ski Sunday theme tune. Well. Kirsten, the Coventry Carol is sinister, in both the conventional metaphorical sense (cheery Christmas fayre about murdered children) and that of being in keeping with the present context (melancholy gorgeousness). Also, it's lovely as lovely can be, so carry on playing it for yer Ma and I'll join you from across the Atlantic. I think I'll spend the afternoon envying the humble cabbage-white/ his honest idiocy of flight. Beats earning a living. Liz D :x - I was not woken by the rooster, nor by the crow's tough song But the midnight cry of a blood red bird brought this sleeplessness on - +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Wed Nov 28 16:02:06 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:02:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow gig tickets Message-ID: <071101c17826$11def7c0$9426fea9@katrina> FYI ... you can also get some tickets from the Virgin Megastore on Buchanan Street. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 16:14:36 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:14:36 Subject: Sinister: Making Homes From Novellettes, or something like that. Message-ID: Hello once more. I've been quiet of late. I think that's so that the Stud Muffin Fiasco could die down. On the subject, before we pronounce it dead (what's that? I'm the only person still going on about it? Um...), Ms Fruitloop said: >>it depends on what your definition of Stud Muffin is! I'd wager you're a >>bit of a stud muffin! To which there can really be no response. Apart from that one. So. York University has accepted sponsorship by those lovely baby-killers Nestl�. Which angers me slightly, but then again makes me chuckle resignedly, and makes me think of banned Super Furry Animals records. All together now - "...they don't give a fuck about anybody else, you know they..." Joe Vester made the frighteningly insightful point that: >>Inside every lanky boy is a fat girl who loves pancakes. Yet another poignant observation from the Boy Vester. I totally concur, but must add that the whole posession-by-compulsive-eater thing is a reciprocal thing too, as many a lardy bird will tell you. David Moore then said: >>Apologies for sending stupid draft to bore the pants off 1500 listees. I personally thought that was a homage to the likes of Mr Gillanders, and a fine one at that. More. Of the same. Please. As for the new EP, I like it, but I do agree that something's missing. The vocals on I'm Waking Up To Us sound like Struan doing a very bad, drunken Elvis Costello impression, but a fine song it is anyway. I Love My Car sounds like something that Beatles did on The White Album or Rubber Soul when they were pissing about. Marx & Engels is slightly wonderful though, and definitely a return to form of sorts. It's very telling that they did that one all by themselves, and it's by far the best one. I can only assume the sight of Isobel in red leather on the back will make a legion of indie-boys happy... Right then. I'm off to the Nestl� Lecture Theatre. I shit you not. love, Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 28 16:15:24 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:15:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: head full of snot and a pocket full of debt! Message-ID: <3C050D9C.4896F5E0@camb.linst.ac.uk> AAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Why is it that when you have no money whatsoever it's always the time when you want to buy everything. I want camera obscura, b&s, some new red underwear and 70p so i can get the bus home from college, snif. im going to try to go to the C.O gig that Casorroto mentioned, even if it means going by myself and hitching a ride on a donkey or something. Hope to see some of you there. Joe Vester should become a head teacher. i hate goths, you know the way that you stare at them sometimes because they just look so ridiculous and they sometimes give you this stare back that says " yeh, stop staring you mainstream bitch, don't judge me man!!!!!!", er, sorry love but i alredy have. MEAOW! sorry i went a bit mean there didnt i.Talking of gothics, my gobby friend took me to a dodgy gothic pub in camden. I was wearing all things twee and stood out a mile and my mate had a chat with the bar man and has got us a gig there in december under the name "the fluffy bunny fuckers", which, apparently they loved. Oh dear, i am very scared, i may run away for afew months. hannahxxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 16:20:32 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:20:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pheasant in the snow Message-ID: Hey kids Oooh, it's cold today isn't it? Luckily I've been saving on my central heating bills because I've been *dancing* to I'm Waking Up To Us. I think it's ace! I'm really starting to like the way Belle and Sebastian have gone slightly bonkers recently. "Miller" said >What do we think of the NEW RECORD? I'm a bit disappointed, but I >don't know why. I think it's GRATE, but as CHRISSIE HYNDE would >say, "something is gained, something is lost". Then he said something filthy. I think Peter must have bought the edition with the gatefold sleeve to see that much of the doggie and all it's "glory". The doggie on mine was just wearing a red jacket, har har! I think the record sounds a lot more professional, and that's a double edged sword I suppose. Now that Stuart's a celebrity I see that he hires his dogs from Dave "Creature Features" Stewart's professional pooches. There was a time when he'd have gone along to Madame Bow-Wows like the rest of us. I like the song a lot, though, especially the dangerous bassoon. Oooh, it's chilly, I think I'll wear my hat. When I was a member of our local nature club we went out for a walk one day in weather like this. There was frost on the ground and on the leaves it looked as soft as fur but bit your fingers if you touched it. We were told a story about a pheasant who had been out too long in the cold so its tail fell off. They showed us the tail as a grim reminder so that we'd remember to use our "Pheasant Sense" if we ever saw one caught in the cold. I felt like that poor pheasant yesterday when I walked home. The wind was so cold I thought my legs were going to fall off. They didn't, thankfully, because my bus came in time, but I think I'll have to buy some long johns. I wonder if Stuart David plays on Marx and Engels or if it's a different version. I wonder what's happened to Lord Anthony too. I like it when Struan gets all angry and revolutionary, trying to subvert the state with his unconventional song structures. Don't you? Brr! Robin x ps: "breams" - cheer up, you daft bugger! pps: Patrick - do your homework! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 17:07:58 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:07:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You made me smile again; in fact, I may be sore from it, its been awhile. Message-ID: Hello kiddies.. Gosh last post I was so cryptic and weird and miserable sounding. Well, I�m not, anymore. And I wasn�t, even then, for long. I think it was partly the book I was reading (of human bondage, w. somerset maughan, depressing but good for thinking) and the pills I had stopped taking (because they were pulled from the shelves, being DANGEROUS and all that.. hmm). Well, the book is finished and the pills have been replaced after a dreadful day combing the city streets, ready to collapse. And all is well in Athens. Well, in my little bit of it. I�ve started reading �A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius� by Dave Eggers and it is SO fantastic! Really, truly. I was hesitant to read it because I had heard he was a bit um.. egotistical. But awww. It�s so lovely! I made the mistake of reading it often while on public transport. No one in Athens reads on buses or trains or anything and I get the strangest looks as I smile and bite my finger to stop myself from giggling insanely. The book makes me do that a great deal, see. Read it. Speaking of buses (as we often are..are we obsessed?) I got on an empty bus at the abandoned airport the other day and the bus driver took an odd route that ended up going three stops toward the sea, turning around, returning to the airport, racing through the empty parking lots at top speed, swerving in and out of traffic islands, then continuing on to Athens as if nothing odd had happened, pretending not to see the old men waving at him at bus stops to slow down, coming to screeching halts to let them on, then having big fights with them while almost driving headlong into telephone poles. Hmm. Also, I just discovered Ron Sexsmith. Has everyone heard of this guy and decided not to tell me? He�s so lovely!!! I especially like the song �words we never use.� And today, while searching the internet to find out what he looks like, I discovered he�s touring at this very moment and will be in many cities near you European folk very soon! If not today! For instance, he�ll be in Edinburgh tonight, Aberdeen tomorrow, Glasgow the 1st, then Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Bristol, London, Paris, Brighton and Vienna. No Athens, tho. Figures. Go here for specifics: http://www.ronsexsmith.com/tour.html and check him out. I wrote to Aden recently, because I was bored, and asked them when they would be coming to Athens. Hahaha, I said. Just kidding. But really now. Why doesn�t anyone ever come here? Hmm. Well, jeff, the lovely lead singer, did write a lovely note back. And now we�re pen pals. Well, not really. He hasn�t written again since. But I like to pretend. Maybe I�ll write emails to loads of random small indie bands and make pen pal friends. Cause I don�t have enough indie lovely pen pal friends I�ll never meet, right? Blech. Other than that, I realized I�m still spending too much time on #sinister. Everyday I check the stats and I�m getting higher and higher on the ranking of who has said the most lines (ie: who spends way too much time in here, poor loser with no social life). But the stats page is highly amusing nonetheless, with random quotes taken out of context that are often astounding and insulting and silly, yet somehow seem to accurately capture each person. And it has fascinating facts like who smiles the most or least, who yells, who is aggressive (moi?? Weird..). Much fun. Here�s the link: http://honey.crockery.org/auntwendy/stats.html Okay, story time. (warning: this will be long. I don�t wanna hear it. Skip if you like.) Did I ever tell you about the Finnish lesbian who tracked us down and invited us over for drinks? And how we went? No? Well, it�s a bit odd. But such things seem to happen so often to us that they are normal now. Which is perhaps more frightening. So this Finnish woman, her name is Anna, has a sister in Amherst, Mass., where I went to school and one town over from where Coral and I used to live, prior to up and moving to Greece like the nutters we are. We wrote a silly story documenting the move for a magazine that gets inserted into the local newspaper over there, where we used to work. So this sister reads this article and calls Anna, the Finn, telling her all about us and how she simply MUST track us down because we obviously have so much in common. What could that possibly be? Well, Anna happens to be quite young - 28 - and studying journalism and made a similar radical move, and actually lives at the other end of the brothel street. AND it should be mentioned here that our town in America, Northampton, is predominantly populated by lesbians so she makes a few assumption in that direction as well. Mmmm. So she called our employer here and leaves a message and we call her and agree - are we crazy? - to go to her house for drinks. We get there and Coral is ecstatic because 1) Anna has three cats to pet and Coral misses her cat, and 2) Anna is obviously a militant lesbian and Coral, who spent 4 years at Smith College where no one graduates without sleeping with a girl, misses hanging out with lesbians almost as much as petting cats. Coral promptly gets smashed on wine and talks about sex, a favorite topic of hers, while I keep escaping to the bathroom in sneezing fits because I have apparently somehow developed an allergy to cats since moving here 6 months ago. Odd. I finally manage to pull Coral away at 2 a.m. and we walk down the brothel street, now teeming with activity, and I have to hold Coral back with all my might to prevent her from entering a few strip clubs. Sigh. The other night we invited Anna over for dinner, along with Coral�s boyfriend, Peter, who she has been planning to break up with for a week now. I think the sight of Peter was a bit of a shock for Anna, who undoubtedly assumed Coral and I were a couple. Mmm hmmm. Her attention was focused largely on me all night and I was feeling a bit uncomfortable. And tired because of the previous night�s events, which I will get to in a bit. Anyway, she makes me drink lots (hmmm) and then we all settle down and eat and she insist we play Truth or Dare. Oh GAWD. I roll my eyes and almost get up to leave but Coral gives me an evil look that clearly translates into: �Don�t you dare, you have to be social tonight and are not allowed to flee to your room.� The game is basically a game of Truth, we�re too old for dares I guess, and a very somber one at that. All the questions are monsters. Like: what is your biggest regret? Your greatest fear? Your happiest time? Only at the end do we realize we should have asked stuff like: If you had to remove a body part which would you chose? Anna did, however, take the opportunity to ask our sexualities, point blank. I said straight and she pretended she didn�t hear me and asked me two more times. Then she went out for a cigarette with Coral and asked her if I was really secretly gay, as she suspected. Argh! I�m really sick of ppl being convinced I�m really secretly gay. I know I don�t exude sex or anything, but really. I know lots of people assume Coral and I are a couple, which for some reason does not bother me in the slightest. I guess it just bothers me sometimes because it reminds me that I�m not in any sort of relationship that would prove without a doubt where my sexuality lies. Bugger. Today I actually wrote a work-related story about my apocalyptic journey to Northern Greece. I am beside myself. I don�t know what to do now. I haven�t written anything work-related in months! Wow! Anyway, I can�t think of an ending though. Goddamn! Speaking of work, I am entering my second week of brat-sitting. The first day was pretty uneventful and almost too easy. The kids spent the first hour playing Nintendo and the second hour drawing and working in their English workbooks. Like... they WANTED to do HOMEWORK. I was floored! And they didn�t fight once and they made no mess and when the parents came home we were all laying on the floor with crayons, chatting away in English about what happens when they lose their teeth. The mother�s jaw actually dropped. Second day I spend 1 � hours laying on the floor listening as they gossip with a friend in Greek about their classmates, using their little plastic rulers to saw into different color erasers. They collected the filings in little plastic containers, presumably because they were.. pretty? Pretty little colored filings? Um.. sure! Kids are WEIRD! But I didn�t complain. We spent the last half hour in a pillow fight. Saturday, however, was hellish. Not really. The neighboring adorable blond Kinder-advertisement-perfect German boy was over and we played football with his adorable little dog for about 20 mins. Then the boys played Nintendo and I taught the girl how to play 20 questions, which she LOVED and we played it for hours. Which got really boring. But kept us occupied. Then we played a rather raucous version of hide and seek that involved running to safety. All indoors, of course. Then the boys built a fort and we passed insulting notes under the door (some of which I translated into English - to be educational, you know, because it�s important they learn �you and your friend are inconsiderate jerks who don�t play nice and we don�t like you�). Then the girl and I played some complex jail game of her own devising, which involved me escaping and running around a lot. Then I started to draw sketches of the kids and once they discovered what an artist I am (ha!) they started to model for me. Their mom came home while I was feeding them and stopped in horror at the scene of disarray - rugs moved, shoes and toys in the middle of the floor - and yelled at not only the kids, but me too. Aparently, running around inside the house is not allowed. Oops. How was I to know? So I go Monday to see the kids and the girl runs to the door and pulls me into her room and the boy runs out of the kitchen to grab my other hand and apparently the kids LOVE me! Go figure! The mother tells me how shocked she is, how the girl has been asking about me alllll day and complaining that I should come earlier. When I was interviewing for the job, the mother informed me point-blank that she had been through two other baby-sitter/tutors recently because they could not handle the kids, who tend to attempt to kill each other whenever the mother�s back is turned. She clearly suspected I was too weak to handle the brats. But aha! We spent the two hours playing 20 questions and drawing. I even taught them checkers. And they asked me to say �sure� and �mmm hmmmm� loads. Aww. It was a nice feeling, knowing they actually like me, that they waited anxiously for me to arrive. Saturday was the first day in more than a month that I woke up before 10 a.m. And after five hours chasing the brats, by nighttime I was ready to lay in bed with Eggers and finish him off, when I got a call from Joanna. Within hours I was dressed and pressed and on my way to the ice cream shop where she works for a night of dancing. We were to join her friends at this supposedly cool club for a 60�s, 70�s, 80�s night. The club was PACKED, to the point where we were upset because it would prohibit our dancing, since our superior moves require lots of room. We somehow found Joanna�s friends, squished against the DJ booth, and stood there, bopping our heads a bit since it was the only body part we could move. I won�t go into extreme detail here, since I did that last time we went out dancing and it took up an entire post, but suffice it to say there was some very, very good music, punctuated by some very, very bad music (of the slow-dancing celine dion and Barbara streisand ilk). The place very slowly cleared out and by about 3 a.m. we had some room to move. I was ecstatic when the good DJ (there were two, one was very very bad) pumped out some OLD SKOOL RAP! And I could astound with my lyrical masterness, but unfortunately some scary stuck-in-the-eighties man with long curly hair (that he whipped around frequently, spraying us with sweat!) stole the limelight when he attempted to breakdance. When the A-Ha came on about an hour later tho, I was the cool kid with my Molly Ringwald moves. Not only did people stop to stare, they actually tried to COPY. Oh yes. And I got to teach Joanna and her friends the proper hand motions to YMCA by the Village people. It�s not often that I feel like a representative of Americana, but at such times my chest heaves with pride. Um. Yeah. Nothing like representing cheesy American culture to get my chest heaving. Ha! I�m seriously considering adding this club to the Athenian picnic agenda. I�m thinking afternoon picnic, walk along the beach, club (maybe a touch of bowling thrown in to kill some time? Ha! Bowling! In greece! Rawk!). And ooh, I visited the picnic site and it�s a bit.. quirky. But in the very best way. It is literally in the middle of the parking lots and runways of an abandoned airport. It�ll be just us and a family of barking dogs and lush grass and palm trees and intrepid kids learning to drive. Mmmm hmmm. Anyhoo. That was way too long, as always. But if you read this far you were probably bored and in need of entertaining anyway, so no complaints! Mwah! ~dahling http://www.geocities.com/dahling007 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Wed Nov 28 19:51:38 2001 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:51:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I love my KKKKAAAAARRRRRKKKK!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3C04CFCA.12867.1CF1B02@localhost> Today I was listening to the new B & S EP, and singing along to the music, when I choked on my coffee. And then the telephone rang. It was my friend reminding me about the 2 PM Lion King showing that we were going to. So, I'm trying to talk to her with coffee pouring out of my nose and streaming in brown arcs across my keyboard and onto the monitor. Eewww... I just had a vision of Velvet Underground's song about Waldo who mails himself to his girlfriend, who cuts into the box with some scissors, and, ultimately, into Waldo's head. I think this new EP far surpasses my previous All-Time-B&S- Favorite "Modern Rock Song" EP, to become my new B&S favorite. Particularly, "I love my car." Maybe, when the someday comes that I get married, if that someday comes, instead of having a string quartet or DJ or whatever, I'll have a dixieland jazz band play. I wonder if I could hire B & S to play that song. Probably not, I don't think Big Stars accept payment in Chicken Satay, those little puffy things with the brown-orange filling that weddings always have that no one eats, $11, and a worn copy of Jimmy Shand's "My Scotland" LP. :-) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "She's stuck in an infinite loop, and he's an idiot... that's love for you." - futurama. http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an infi nite loop. not stuck in an infinite loop. not stuck in an ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 20:00:48 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:00:48 EST Subject: Sinister: oh i die horatio! Message-ID: <7e.1eaba2ac.29369c70@cs.com> Well Wednesday (affectionatly known in these parts as "hump day") has somewhat passed and thank God for that anyway. Every day keeps on getting more and more boring it's ridiculous. In Choir today this Freshman Girl stole me class ring and wouldn't give it back unless I knew the "password". I proceeded to go through a long and extremely amusing list of possible passwords, none of which met with approval. You know, I bet there really was no password after all. She did give it back by the way after I offered to send her a $316.94 bill. Hey it's 10k gold and my mum said it was "important" Hot Topic had another Morrissey shirt but ALL SMALLS AGAIN oh dear. I must inquire why anything that comes in Smiths and Morrissey must be made for seventh graders. Oh well I think I just answered my own question there. Are my posts pointless. I've got the facts and I'm voting yes. toodles bri +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 20:10:37 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:10:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: At this rate I'll need a dog on wheels... Message-ID: Hello, Just wanting to say a big thanks to Grainne for clearing some of the murky water surrounding the bus (eh?). First time I've been online since Sunday, so I haven't even been to the site yet. I've already bought gig tickets; will I now have to part with money for another pair, or can I book the bus seperately? Ooh, the suspense! Watch this space... By the way, HMV aren't "doing" Ticketmaster anymore - try the landing of the Jervis Centre if you're in Dublin! Bye, and thanks again, Mark >From: "Grainne Lynch" >Reply-To: g.lynch at lycos.com >To: "Mark Sweeney" >Subject: Re: Sinister: At this rate I'll need a dog on wheels... >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 03:07:13 -0800 > >Hello, >I don't know if someone has already enlightened you, but I checked the >web-site this morning and there's stuff about the bus to Belfast - 147 >tickets with coach transport are available, they are about IR�36. There's >nothing on ticketmaster.ie and I haven't been into HMV or anything, yet. >And I don't know if I will be doing that this week because I'm a bit poor, >but I will be getting the bus, if I get a ticket before they're gone. >Perhaps I'll see you there, >Grainne. >-- > >On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:28:24 > Mark Sweeney wrote: > >Greetings to all and sundry, and sorry to be so abrupt in my first ever > >post, but does ANYBODY know ANYTHING about that alleged bus from Dublin >to > >the Belfast gig? It's beginning to feel frighteningly Kafkaesque, all >these > >blank expressions at every turn. Enlighten me somebody, please, and >convince > >me that my sanity hasn't gone irretrieveably west. Oh, and I'll buy you a > >cake in Mandela Hall. Cheery bye for now... > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper >+-+ > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" >+-+ > > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 >+-+ > > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 >+-+ > > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 >+-+ > > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa >+-+ > >+------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dick_tatorial at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 20:18:34 2001 From: dick_tatorial at xxx.com (Mark Sweeney) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:18:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: At this rate I'll need a dog on wheels... Message-ID: Hi Trish, Well I'm in the same boat with me tickets obviously - may leave on Thursday morning and walk to Belfast! Not too keen on having to stay over really... Meeting up before sounds like one of the better ideas I've heard this week; was having visions of muteness all the way to Belfast and back! Now let's all get ourselves on that bus (Boats? Buses? What is this, a travelogue?!! Bye, Mark >From: trish delish >To: "Mark Sweeney" >Subject: RE: Sinister: At this rate I'll need a dog on wheels... >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:57:02 +0000 > >Hi Mark > >not sure if you've seen this on sinister already, but just thought i'd let >you >know...the bus tix are onsale from ticketmaster outlets, you can only get >on >the bus if you buy one of their combined tickets...which i don't have. i'm >a >little sick, since i already got my tix for belfast online, (that'll learn >me >to be so smart!) and according to the website you can only get the bus tix >included with the concert, so i've mailed katrina house asking if there's >any >way for us to get on that bus! > >us being me and five mates, totally looking forward to it! i definitely >think >we should do a pre-bus meet up, after all it will be christmas, and >everyone's >bound to be in cracking form...i know it's a little early, but have you any >ideas of a nice place to arrange a meet up? somewhere not too skanky, >preferably > >anyway, welcome to sinister, see you in belfast if not before! >trish delish > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 21:27:35 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:27:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: where to go next? Message-ID: sweetest darlings! i've missed you all very much. oh. i've missed reading your posts. oh. right. yes. i've been in england for a few days, and now i'm in sweden. i don't think i'll ever come home to norway. hee hee. well, at least i could manage to get to a computer here. so the whole day has been full of reading posts... ok, almost the whole day. i'm sleeping at this.... friend of mine. he is really sweet, indeed. and he care. and he makes sure i'm fine... and that i'm not sitting alone in a sofa, sobbing. he is just grate. i bought the EP today! and i'm speachless. it's more than grate! it's fabolous! oh, this is why i like sweden. it was quite easy to find it, but i know that in norway, i would have to go looking for it for i dont know how long! i actually bought it on CD, and vinyl. both sizes on vinyl. so i've got three "i'm waking up to us"-ep:s now. tomorrow i'm just going to "hang out" with the lovely boy i'm staying at. i probably should't say so much nice things about him. he is just my friend. but... well, i can't help it! he must be the sweetest person i have ever met! tomorrow he's taking me to see harry potter (yay!) and then he's just said that he's got this surprise for me. oh, i love surprises! just as much as i love christmas! i tink i'll go christmasshoping in stockholm. i'm really starting to like it here. i finished my "give-me-this-or-i'll-kill-you"-list today. it's the most important things that i want for christmas. the other things is on another list. i don't know why i do that... i guess it's still in me since i was younger. well, sweeties, i'm going to watch a movie now. have a grate day! much love, rachel oj ps. shit. i was just hit by a thaught. what if we won't move to sweden? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Wed Nov 28 22:26:31 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:26:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I met Ulysses S. Grant once, in a bar, in Kansas City. Message-ID: <20011128222631.49834.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> right. I must be getting old. when I stretch, I make a noise like a depressed lion that's been smoking too many cigarettes. but I turn 21 in two weeks, so I can buy all the alcohol that I want. this should be exciting. somehow, it's not. I've also been skipping way too many classes. I realized yesterday that I haven't been to my italian film history class in about a month, and I have a class in... about an hour that I bet I'm not going to. cor blimey. next semester I'll be good and go to allll my classes allll the time. I did walk down to get the new single today, and I'm glad I did. "I love my car" would make good supermarket muzak, but I like it anyway, but "marx and engels" is far and away the best song on the single. now I want a beagle. of course, they've never do anything better than TIGERMILK (I felt someone had to say it... I don't really think that). when are they going to get around to a new album? shhhhh. okay, I think I'm done. sorry for another crap post. -eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 23:44:26 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:44:26 EST Subject: Sinister: wheres yoour head at??? Message-ID: <12f.84ff24f.2936d0dc@aol.com> Hola sinnister! who reads this things anyway? well looks like SOMEONE has a crush on BRIAN!:P. anyway, aims being a bitch and my bro's on aol. and im pissed. ok, my friend claims i dont have a boyfriend cause i dont go to shows and die my hair emo black like hers. fuck, people SUCK! theyre all fake sinister. i tell you! THEY ARE ALL Fake. never trust no one. nope. tis best to just be alone eating yer cheesecake listening to bel n seb. YES YES YES. and i need a vacation. anyone know of any cheap visit europe programs for people under 18? i wish my cat would sing this basement jaxx song to me... lol, just like in the video cept cats. YEA MAN! bye v +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 23:43:33 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:43:33 EST Subject: Sinister: wheres yoour head at??? Message-ID: <11b.831d135.2936d0b7@aol.com> Hola sinnister! who reads this things anyway? well looks like SOMEONE has a crush on BRIAN!:P. anyway, aims being a bitch and my bro's on aol. and im pissed. ok, my friend claims i dont have a boyfriend cause i dont go to shows and die my hair emo black like hers. fuck, people SUCK! theyre all fake sinister. i tell you! THEY ARE ALL Fake. never trust no one. nope. tis best to just be alone eating yer cheesecake listening to bel n seb. YES YES YES. and i need a vacation. anyone know of any cheap visit europe programs for people under 18? i wish my cat would sing this basement jaxx song to me... lol, just like in the video cept cats. YEA MAN! bye v +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 23:44:43 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:44:43 EST Subject: Sinister: wheres yoour head at??? Message-ID: <49.14b2e118.2936d0f6@aol.com> Hola sinnister! who reads this things anyway? well looks like SOMEONE has a crush on BRIAN!:P. anyway, aims being a bitch and my bro's on aol. and im pissed. ok, my friend claims i dont have a boyfriend cause i dont go to shows and die my hair emo black like hers. fuck, people SUCK! theyre all fake sinister. i tell you! THEY ARE ALL Fake. never trust no one. nope. tis best to just be alone eating yer cheesecake listening to bel n seb. YES YES YES. and i need a vacation. anyone know of any cheap visit europe programs for people under 18? i wish my cat would sing this basement jaxx song to me... lol, just like in the video cept cats. YEA MAN! bye v +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 23:56:46 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:56:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And we'll fill in the missing colors In each other's paint-by-number dreams Message-ID: <000201c17868$5a8b6020$73a601d5@oemcomputer> Hi there! (Pretending nothing happened this morning. Thanks to Telegamr Asm for suggesting the Gillanders defence.) I must be losing my objectivity where Belle And Sebastian are concerned, as I can't understand why anyone wouldn't like the new single. Its GRATE, with something for everyone: a monster production very personal seeming love song, a Dexieland stomper & Belle And Sebastian Classic ('98?) for those who don't like their new stuff. The orchestral arrangement on the title track is impressive, although I may soon break into a laugh *every* time I hear that chortling bassoon behind the instrumental break. On the last listen I could even see a pair of comedy Ted Heath shoulders going up & down. I had forgotten that Mike Hurst was a member of The Springfields before turning record producer. He also released 2 solo albums in the early 70's & apparently they have been re-issued recently. Listen at your own risk, though. It was a worry that the King Louis novelty overtones to I Love My Car would soon prove wearing but even after scores of listens I still love it. The Uptown Shufflers may tell appalling jokes but that clarinet solo is the bollocks. I don't know where Tanya Donelly went but she seems to have come back. Sally lent me her new ep & its surprisingly good. The title track may not have the greatest melody but all the old compelling vocal tricks are there. And she's a Lucinda Williams fan. Peter, is the Velvet Underground Bootleg Sessions - The Quine Tapes any good? I dream of the Grateful Dead Box Set. 12 CD's. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 01:21:01 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:21:01 -0600 Subject: Sinister: I built you to sweep, not question my plans Message-ID: hello again! So soon again you ask? Well i'm bored. What a wonderful day! I bought the new single, and, well, I am no person to give an objective opinion on belle and sebastian, so I won't. (was that runonsentence?) However, I will commend the band on their sneaky marxist preaching methods. (the red devils) The owner of my favourite record shop sort of offered me a job there. How great would that be? Being snooty to everyone who has musical taste other than my own sounds like fun. Not to mention forcing my taste onto everyone in the store. What a dream job. Its not quite DJ, but unless it's a country station, a top 40 station, or a metallica station (sorry to the brazilian listee who loves them), I wouldn't have any place DJ'ing in mobile. Anyhow, somebody asked somebody else about the VU Quinte Tapes, so I feel it is my duty to butt in on this conversation and say they're great! The sound quality is slightly weak, but what do you expect from a 30 year old audience recording? And who though a 38 minute Sister Ray could be so interesting? Great stuff. What exactly is a tea towel? -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 05:58:41 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:58:41 -0600 Subject: Sinister: "i'm addicted to cold turkey" Message-ID: it seems that every time i resolve to spend a quiet night inside, someone calls. i shouldn't say i mind, because i don't really. it was just raining and cold and i didn't feel like driving....well. it was a pleasant enough evening, anyway, sitting in a shiny red diner full of giant candy canes, flashing stars and dangling santa heads that looked quite rosy and intoxicated. sitting with the red-haired violinist, with our backs against the cold window and our legs stretched over the vinyl seats. she talked about the southwest, and about warm evenings spent on the roof of a car in the middle of nowhere, staring at the desert. about the tranquility of horizontal lines. i said i'd like to go sometime. that to sit that way, slightly denting the top of a car, leaning back on your hands and staring so long that you almost can see the curvature of the earth...it could only be the sort of moment when it feels as though everything is just as it should be. a few of us went to colorado just after we graduated from high school. we were doing some volunteer work in a tiny town, and had to take a plane with one row of seats to an airport with one terminal, and also had to spend one day without our baggage because it was stuck in colorado springs. it was really hot there. my skin turned very brown, and my hair turned very blonde. we climbed a mountain and ate sandwiches at the top, and i slipped on some snow and skinned my knees. a couple of people got ill from overindulging at the russell stover factory outlet. melissa and i shared a bed, and every night we would just lie there and laugh and laugh until we were exhausted, and then we'd fall asleep. i don't think we were really laughing at anything. or we were each laughing at the other's laugh. we were staying with an elderly couple...dick and helen. they were sweet, and apparently didn't mind the stifled snorts and giggles escaping our room in the wee hours of the morning. on the last night, knowing we had to get up at the crack of dawn to take the scary tiny plane to denver, we stayed up all night on top of a hill overlooking the town. the town was nothing. looking down, there was a cemetery, and there were a few sad-looking bars and a gas station. looking up, there were more stars than i'd ever seen in my life. and straight ahead....mountains. a few people cried that night, and there was an awful lot of hugging, and everyone got angry at me because i wasn't feeling sentimental and i kept saying creepy things about giants. i don't know why. it just seemed like a good time to talk about...giants. yeah. anyway...that was one of those nights, i think. this was much longer than it needed to be. goodnight kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 19:42:03 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:42:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i'm waking up to a virus Message-ID: <002101c1790e$15d3f540$994b073e@aqlzosqt> well, it's been a thrilling week struggling with my uninvited guest, the sneaky worm_badtrans.b virus. i think i've killed it now, but it was touch and go. i'm sure it's too late now anyway, but don't open any attachments from me. meanwhile, i am being stalked by a ginger cat called tolkien. it paces up and down the street waiting for my front door to open and then shoots inside. on saturday it was found outside our back door too. and when coming back from the shop this morning it ambushed me from under a car and jumped up on what would have been my lap, had i not been vertical. i don't mind all this, because i've have secretly hankered after my own cat since leaving home and giving up two darling, though insane, moggies. however, tolkien obviously has a home of his (or possibly her) own, albeit with a family who have little sense of an appropriate name for a cat. maybe it is in fact the reincarnation of jrr tolkien, and wants to come in and view my dvd version of his masterpiece. which, incidentally, everyone should see before the live action film comes out, because it's just fantastic. the animation is truly fucked up. hard to believe ralph bakshi went on to work on alvin and the chipmunks. they're resurfacing the road outside my house at the moment. i don't think i can stand another second of pneumatic drills. but i may not have to, as my room is in the basement and it really sounds like several tons of pavement are going to fall on me at any minute. on that note, i'll say goodbye for now. comments on IWUTU to follow later. luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Nov 29 11:52:22 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:52:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Later... Message-ID: <006001c178cc$4f3c54e0$1b84fc3e@neil> Because they're so bloody good, they've actually got THREE songs on "Later...". But I'm not telling you what they are. So don't go switching off after the second one. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Wed Nov 28 22:58:19 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:58:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It could have been a brilliant career Message-ID: Oh Chums of S'nister Lots of things happen to change the course of our lives. So far, not a graduation, not a relocation, not a broken heart, world terrorism or a radical haircut made me have to unsubscribe, but last week, I lost my cherished job. I was a person who'd go and play with words and pictures, and, yes, I got paid for it. Now, I play with my hair and check my bank balance with a bit lip. Not to worry though, coz I'll be back. I even thought of contacting the band to find out if they need a singer (oh for the RAH and it's gift of for-the-moment behaviour), but best, I suppose to hone a more humble career. As if. Anyhow, the upshot is I'll be gone for a while. Not that many of you will mind, but I will, because it means - to use nasty office-speak - I'll be out of the loop. But at least I'll know the loop's still turning, and I can get back in at any time. :} Tonight my thoughts go out to the great unemployed, and everyone who loves red wine. Au revoir Miss Ho, the Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Thu Nov 29 04:27:50 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:27:50 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Christmas depression... Message-ID: <20011129042750.3BCCD6E07@mx02.osite.com.br> As Daniela has said a few messages ago, Christmas depression is real. It's not an impression of hers, I guess... Because I feel it too. Every year, as november comes, and people starts to scream we should anticipate our christmas' shopping, it seems like I have been stroken in my stomach. But there are lot of theories about why so many people feel bad as the year ends. For me, it's always as many things have been left unsaid or undone. I start to remember: how beautiful was that girl I was dating!... she was really fine... but I missed the chance to tell her how much I liked her. And then the year ends. Time's over! When the year ends, forget it!! Think of something new, wait until the next wave, and so on... And what about that plans of taking theatre lessons? and going back to music school? And calling that friend of mine, that propably has already commited suicide? Oh, no, I didn't do any of these things... and the year ends. It's like everything we planned, everything we hoped was going to come true just turns to dust... dust downside in the ampullete. I have a friend who suffers with christmas depression for different reasons: he has lost his friend in a car accident. His mother is dead too, consumed by cancer. Tough, isn't it? It can happen to any of us... but the problem is: Christmas makes all the bad things that happens to us gather living and fresh colours. When everyone MUST be happy, wouldn't it be the perfect time for knowing why your life just CAN'T be happy? That's another point... Here in Brazil it's close do summer now... it's quite stupid putting a pinus tree in the living room and imagining a Santa with that warm and cozy clothes, while we're living days of 40�C in the shade. Never understood that! ! We should should start trying adaptations to a "tropical Christmas", with typical trees, fruits and a Santa wearing a softer outfit. But that's a project for the future... There's no cold, no snow around... I envy people who has at least a little snow. At least their traditions are coherent. At last, my Christmas depression probably comes from a simpler cause: I am aquarian. So, as an aquarian, my birthday is at the beginning of the year. January! So, every january I know I am getting older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death ~laughs~. This year I will be 24 years old. I know that a few years further I will be missing these days as my best, but, now, I feel like a lot of years have passed behind me! Wow, a lot!! And where have they gone to? What was I thinking when I let them go?!?! So, this is what I have to say about my private Christmas depression. Daniela: you're not alone! At least, not in Brazil... And let's sing along: "Did you ever see the faces of the children, they get so excited Waking up on Christmas morning, hours before the winter sun's ignited They believe in dreams and all they mean including heaven's generosity Peeping round the doors to see what parcels are for free in curiosity And Tommy doesn't know what they it is Doesn't know who Jesus was or what praying is How can he be saved >From the eternal grave?!?" Does anybody know that? Beto +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gltitchener at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 12:10:33 2001 From: gltitchener at xxx.com (gina titchener) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:10:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I came home on Sunday to find Barry's spare leg on our garden path Message-ID: Don't worry, Barry's a giraffe. Made out of pink straws (and a few pins). oh! the joyous by-products of Societies Training day. Yes, your favourite sinister spin-off, york university's indie soc committee attended above mentioned course, at 9.30 on a saturday morning and learnt.... how good chris migmk jones is at building various out-of-proportion african mammals out of only straws and pins. (he was supposed to be helping in the team project, to support a golf ball using only, yep, straws and pins, but, y'know, too many co-chairs spoil the strawsandpins tower. the tower was called jeff, incidentally). that was the most fun we had ALL DAY. Except for Mr Hallifax and Ms Boa, who got given white stripes tickets for that evening and buggered off to sheffield. grrrhh. I was going to say many things, but you have all stolen my thunder. eg,Someone finally got round to pointing out that the gorgeous camera obscura album came out last week. When it got to the end of last week and no-one had mentioned it, i was ready to disown you all. It's fab! the opening line, as a taster, is 'i did the ironing in a cowboy hat'. nearly the best opener ever, apart from make a new cult every day.... and it mentions jonny marr. their best tracks are still the b-sides to 80's fan, one of which degenerates into a felt pastiche in my opinion. I also thought i was going to be the first to mention going to see pulp but a geordie beat me (i think). damn him. never mind, i'll say it any ways: we all went to see pulp, at the barbican (a truly dismal venue i think) and they were outstanding. jarvis (or b-jarvis as we should all call him, for reasons i cannot divulge) was on top form and they did loads of old classics (joyriders, babies) with out resorting to the obvious choices, and made the new album sound much more exciting than it actually is (:P) the kitten has a new game: when you are going upstairs, it races you to the corner where the stairs bend back on itself and then swipes at your face through the banisters. i think it knows that i hate it. Other random things: i dreamt that asm stud muffin walton was a siamese twin joined at the hand (!) to a girl (surely that's impossible? that's dreams for you). I was Very Very confused by this dream. Ken Chu intimated that we didn't play any REM at the indiedisco when almost all the YSM DJed. we did. I was going to relate this scene to you: # Punter who has paid to get in to an indie night: why are you playing s club 7? Me: cos everyone knows it and can dance to it Punter: but it's not indie Me: not everyone knows indie music, and you can't dance to it. what's the point of playing it? Punter: but it's an indie night! play something different to the usual commercial stuff. Me:such as? Punter: REM, ash, idlewild, pixies, belle and sebastian, pulp, blur, radiohead, the strokes so we did the end # but most of it isn't true. the last bit is tho. is this it? it's gonna have to be luv, a fourier series problems class,with a man who exhibits all the qualities of a pig genetically engineered to produce slime like a slug, is looming on the horizon. IWUTU is marvellous. soon you will all be saying this, for it is true. roll on tomorrow night, 11.35, BBC2! (any word on what they performed?) take care love gina x PS Johan, i need a reply by tomorrow night! PPS i have no connection with them at all: i just want to say that i really like desmond torpey's and dave 'stankin' cooter's posts. so there. keep em coming. PPPS shout out to the lurking sinister small (chris c and jo and possibly the girl i passed wearing the green-boy-and-his-finger badge on monday) and to EtypeJoe - hope everything is OK. PPPPS yay to liz daplyn who mentioned animals that swim! is the new album any good? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 13:59:18 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:59:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Corruption of A Happy Soul Message-ID: 5 Points to happiness: (written by a hopeless unbeliever) 1) Bad things happen, they happen too frequently and the trick is to not take it to personally. Hold onto the little things that shine within the darkness, remember that although their light might be fleeting it won't be lost completely. (A few months ago I sat silently and alone unable to see how I would ever feel happy again. Angry at the injustice of the situation. Taking each piece of bad news as a personal insult, a sign that the world was out to get me) 2) Go out and make things happen. Nothing will change unless you make it change. I know it's a clich� but its true. "you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you might just find you get what you need". So keep trying, things might not work out first time but no matter how hopeless things appear, keep trying. (An August evening and I find myself lying on the bed devoid of hope. No wish to try, just an urge to sink further down within myself. Hating the fact it had all got so hard. Just wanting to give up there and then) 3) Go out and face problems head on. Maybe they will knock you down but at least you were expecting them. Don't hide away and worry about something you could be doing something about and don't worry about something you can't do a thing about. (Sat safely within my house, dog next to me, I sit worrying. Scared to be alone, scared to face anyone . Worrying about something I wouldn't be able to change until morning. I waste time. I waste an evening of my life.) 4) Stop concerning yourself with what other people think about you, and whether or not they like you. Concentrate on them instead. Don't give them a reason and it is unlikely they will. Smile, and just enjoy being with them. (Walking down the street, feeling physically sick, convinced people are laughing behind my back. Scared to face anyone let alone talk out loud, shying away from everyone and anyone) 5) Things will get you down. Whether it is a specific well-defined incident or a gradual darkening of emotions which creep up on you while you are unaware, pulling you down draining you of positive thoughts. Whatever it is find a way to fight back, put the colour back into you life. Cling onto elusive moments of happiness and don't let ago. Dwell on positive emotions and leave those negative thoughts to perpetuate themselves. They certainly don't need your help. (I suddenly found myself writing to a friend saying "things have to started to seem good these days" and somehow they have. Somehow whether it was singing to happy songs about cars and the like, or walking through a field of golden leaves, or even writing to a boy not caring if they would write back but just hoping they would read my letter, the moments of happiness have overtaken the moments of sadness and I find myself believing that things could be ok� just that little bit more) Take Care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 14:43:44 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:43:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: marks on ankles Message-ID: Dear sinister, On a work function last night we went to this vodka bar, it was great - except that all they sold there was vodka, nothing else, not even coke, and *gasp* no red bull! I asked them "why don't you sell mixers too?" the reply I got was "well this is a vodka bar innit." Then I woke up. I woke up on time for a change today. I put on "Waking up to us" to wake me up, aren't I clever. When I woke up I could hear Sturan going "Wig. in. up. du. uzzzz" (that's the accent), and I was like "i'm waking up to waking up to us, how clever". Then I got downstairs and didn't eat breakfast (I woke up on time, but not EARLY), and ran into my car and drove to work, on my way to work "I love my car" came on the stereo and I was like "aww, I love I love my car, and I love my car too" Then I got to work and I was eating my sausage sandwich, and i dropped a bit of butter onto my trousers and left a stain near my ankle, so I hummed "and he just wanted trousers with marks on ankles for a while" and then I woke up. Beto asked: >And Tommy doesn't know what they it is >Doesn't know who Jesus was or what praying is >How can he be saved >From the eternal grave?!?" > >Does anybody know that? Yes, By drinking Red Bull! Christmas is like the BBC - you make it what it is. Gina alluded that I've been intimating with the whole of York Sinister Massive. I wish. Pressies and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Pressies are pressies because presents is too hard to spell - it took me three goes just then! (Pressants, Pressents, Prescents arrgh) The Queen lost the British Empire cos of that - in a letter in responce to giving back all the colonies, she couldn't spell "You can shove it" and spelt "You can have it" instead. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anaivaklam at xxx.br Thu Nov 29 16:06:09 2001 From: anaivaklam at xxx.br (Ana Ribeiro) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:06:09 -0200 Subject: Sinister: I hate christmas Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011129134041.009ec1c0@pop3.uol.com.br> I agree with every single word Daniela said about X-mas. "I hate Christmas. I hate this time when people are obligated to get along with others they don't like, or they don't even know the names. I consider Christmas time hypocrit and I hate the end of the year." You know, X-mas for me is when grandpas and grandmas (both sides) arrives at MY place (I'm 18, so I still live with my parents, arght.... but my father's parents are reeally lovely. Too bad I can't say the same about mom's parents...). That's when I get to lend my car and drive people here and there - so they can visit the important places (I live at Brazil's capital), that's when I have to pretend I'm all happy because my aunts are here, and pretend I agree with every single comment they make about my clothes (black all the time, I sometimes do look a little goth, sorry you folks who said you hate them.... even though I'm not goth. I just like to wear black clothes and make-up)... pretend I like to be asked a hundreds of times about the boyfriend I don't have... pretend to enjoy being with the aunts who go tell dad I arrived home at 2 am (that's my coming-back-home-hour), "how does he let his little daughter (I'm the oldest) arrive that LATE?" oh gosh, I hate that. I really hate pretending. The Universities' strike is over, so I must start having all my classes (I was just having 3 out of 7) next week, and that means no vacations for Ana for the next year, and maybe the other one... that sucks. But a nice thing happened today, maybe that's why I'm writing... there aren't many B&S fans here (Brasília). I was at college, waiting for my class to start, and I was walking and singing Le Pastie de la Bourgeoise and this cuuute guy stopped me and said "A Belle and Sebastian fan? I must be dreaming..." and we started talking and that made me happy for the rest of the day (when I started writing that x-mas thing I wasn't, of course, but I remembered this and now I'm happy again!) All right, that's it, I guess. Take care Ana ps: so now there are 3 brazilians on this list who hate the x-mas... and for the very same reason... and thx beto for remembering me how ridiculous it is to put a pinus tree with fake snow on it and guys dressed in red like it was -10°C out there... when it's actually almost 30°C.... "You don't get something for nothing You can't have freedom for free You won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes No matter what your dreams might be" (Rush, Anthem) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 17:14:33 2001 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:14:33 -0600 Subject: Sinister: helpless... Message-ID: hey kids... i must say it makes me feel better to know i am not the only one who feels the pressure to be "jolly".... and man you know i really want to. i catch my self getting all teary eyed just watching "its a wonderful life " for the 500th time. but i guess if you think about it...there is a sort of bitter sweetness of the season. beto put it very well...wishing we had said the things that were really on minds to the person(s) but never quite getting around to it. and my birthday is next week...i'm gonna be 25. i plan on scheduling a midlife crisis that day... i know as soon as my eyes pop open it will finally set in ....i will be a quarter of a century old!!!!.....jeez! i cant think of anything more horrid! well that's not true i can think of a lot of more horrid things..but there's just no other way to express my deep disliking of the situation.....i plan to comfort myself in some form of vice. no b&s content....except i really wish they would come and visit the southern states....besides atlanta... anyway i hope for all of us suffering with the christmass blahs that some one you have a tremndously huge crush on comes up to you and plants a fabulously orgasmic kiss on you, and makes you as giddy as a school girl! -angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 19:19:44 2001 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:19:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: it's been a slow education Message-ID: <20011129191944.61372.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister, i lurv the new ep. i like that it's a little bonkers. and that 'i love my car' has that beatles' mucking about with stuff and laughing quality to it. it makes me say 'wacky', which is a fun word to say. and then it makes me sing 'durp durp durp durp durp durp durp durp... etc.' (which is me sounding like a horn section.) 'i'm waking up to us' is great too, but for some reason at first i thought stuart was doing a geddy lee impersonation, but then i really listened and he wasn't. did a brazilian on this list recently say they loved rush? wow! i have never even given rush a chance.* and a simple 'yes' to 'marx and engels'. riot girl indeed. yeah, so emoticons used to bother me too. quite a lot. but i realized that sometimes you just really need to use them. like a semicolon. overuse/misuse will not, however, be tolerated. and sometimes, to paraphrase comicshop guy from the simpsons, there is no emoticon for what i am feeling. and yaay! for andrew churchman who recommended destroyer's album 'city of daughters'. destroyer is rad. dan bejar is awesome. and i'm not just saying that because they're from vancouver :) also good is the new pornographers. at first you will freak out and be scared, and think 'why does neko case sound like geddy lee?' and then you will realize she doesn't and you will love the pop-rocktasticness of it all. when Ken Chu said "Earlier I bought a sausage sandwich with extra butter, that I personally put on, and then I ate it." he reminded me of hal incandenza from infinite jest. i think it was the 'personally'. i love hal. which reminds me, i bought and ate some turkey kolbassa the other day (i have been vegetarian for a while, but suddenly *needed* meat) and it was really good. then last night i had a dream that that its place behind the deli counter was empty - no more sausage! and i was sad. i thought about turning it into a lucid dream ala 'waking life', but then realized i wasn't really going to learn much from it. 'waking life' is really really good. richard said: 'rhyl, north wales'. and i then started saying 'rhyl' over and over again because it feels so weird. there is a sign on the skytrain platforms here, warning of electric shock or something, that says 'stzo'. it makes me think of polish (czesc ola!). but i don't think it means anything. but i like to say it a lot. maybe it's the sound you would make if you touched the electric bits - 'stzo!' sizzle. if you are bored and especially if you are singing 'i love my car', i suggest http://www.screentalk.org/knightrider.htm oh, yes. turbo-boost, kit! well, at least check out the photo montage of classic knight rider scenes - a thing of beauty. oh oh oh i'm lightning, robyn *though rush fans will go on about the genius of geddy lee, that he is actually and in fact a certified genius in the iq department, and that you should really *listen* to rush at least once in your life and realize that sounding like geddy lee isn't a bad thing at all. erm. again, i have not given rush a chance; it just has not come about. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 19:37:49 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:37:49 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: a rubber yellow duckie Message-ID: <34.1ea7a1da.2937e88d@aol.com> I just scooted over to my school bookstore to do a bit of Christmas shopping. I bought a Gorey calendar for the year 2002, a CD (even though I got 8 new ones over the weekend.. i'm an impulse shopper), a monkey and a rubber duckie for my friend. the lady didn't charge me for the Gorey calendar, which I'm assuming was fourteen dollars and ninety five cents. I just noticed that, so now I'm debating going back to the store and paying for it. And I'll sit here debating it until I go off to class. My teacher gave me another absence slip for a class I missed because I was sick, and now I'm going to be on restrictions again. (FYI: I have to check into my dorm every night at eight o'clock for three weeks, i.e. no going out on weekends.) I was at the infirmiry and THEY won't excuse me because I was there at 8:10 AM, not 8:05 and apparently there's a five-minute rule. I am so incredibly pissed. Especially since a girl in my class comes to class 15 minutes late EVERY SINGLE DAY and SHE never gets a slip. But I'm kind of sort of excited for Christmas. I'm actually REALLY excited for break, but break=time with parents. And time with parents always comes out in shopping sprees with my mother. I found a picture of the back of scarf guy's head on the internet, while I was looking at pictures from the Fall show I went to. It was rather strange. My guitar teacher recommended I pay a visit to a store called Bull Moose Records in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. He claims he's seen Belle and Sebastian records there. I want to go shopping on amazon.com. But I'll wait and hold out until spring break, when I visit New York again. Just two more months. Today a friend from school invited me to come to her house in Florida during spring break as well. My parents will be glad; they kicked me out of the house a long time ago due to my messiness and tendency to break things. :-) i'm off, to.. do things. cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 19:42:04 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:42:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: buy more stuff Message-ID: i too am not looking forward to chirstmas at all. not only is it a big capitalist load of nonsense, but this year is going to be especially anoyying in the states. everyone is going to be so "rah, rah, god bless america" cuz we're fighting this racist pointless hypocritical war. now i know why my mother always got so stressed out during the holidays. she's expected to cook and send cards and go to functions and cook some more. yeah, christmas is a rough time for atheists. and i am dying for new b&s sruff, but ithink i have evrything there is. sorry for all the negativity. it is the end of the semester and i am quite stressed. i'm too poor to byt much alchohol, but that's ok becasue the paxil has reduced my tolerance to that of an eight year old. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 20:17:26 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:17:26 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: i forgot to say this Message-ID: <18.16328047.2937f1d6@aol.com> two things, actually. I'm going to read the Belle Lettres and play the songs accordingly in a couple of weeks, on my radio show. If anyone wants copies of the tape, send word! and.. My radio show is tonight. I'm sure none of you sinister types will be able to listen to it because we only broadcast over the general southern new hampshire/northern massachusetts area, but it would still be nice of you to call in and say hello. the number is 603 777 4406. (i haven't got a playlist ready because i fell asleep last night instead of making one. whoops..) i still love you all! cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 20:55:49 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:55:49 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <3f.284136b.2937fad5@aol.com> .and then i forgot to mention that the show is between the hours of 7 and 8 PM, EST. I feel so dumb. I'll never post again as long as I live. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Nov 29 21:38:35 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:38:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I'm baking buns for us - they're a disaster... Message-ID: <20011129213835.87192.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> ...all burned and everything. Yoyoyo! Lots of you (though not all of you) have been saying how the new ep rocks a phat one. I have to agree - EYEWOOTY is ace and a huge improvement on the OK-until-I-saw-it-live-then-it-was-fantastic JD. ILMC makes me grin like an idiot and Marx & Spencers is just lovely. Mmmm. Liz D. said: "Do nu-rockers buy their skinny black jeans from the same shops nu-metallers get their unfeasibly wide blue ones from...?" My nearest recorded music emporium (Reflex Records, Albert Road, Southsea) caters to this city's only subculture by doing a sideline in said overly-capacious jeans and hoodies that say things like 'slipknot' and 'korn' on them. They're displayed in the window in the approximate shape they would be if worn by a sullen teenager but with a cut-out of Jeremy Beadle's head at the top. That made me laugh. Once. Stacey D. said: "I?ve started reading ?A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius? by Dave Eggers and it is SO fantastic!" It is isn't it! Made me laugh forever. And Dave Eggers' writing style is very easy to parody: http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0005/harry/ Miss Hodottir said: "Au revoir" Which made me a wee bit sad. Hope you find a new brilliant career soon. My flatmate bought a spanking new amp and its just occurred to me that I've never listed to the stereo version of Pet Sounds on it. Later people... Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 21:29:54 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:29:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE:PEAT: Avant-Goth and the apologisms of non-intellectuals Message-ID: <20011129214013.OYR233.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.84.243]> OK, since my last post, I have got not inconsiderable amounts of flak for my point of view on Goths. First, it should be made clear that I do not hate goths at all, I have just found that all the ones I have met, with one notable exception have been really irritating. They can look the way they want, act the way want but like being a B&S fan (according to some): "It's kinda like being gay... you can see where they're coming from and respect them for it, but you wouldn't want to do it yourself"... (courtesy of Mathew Willson) No, that's not my problem with Goths, I rather like them being there to liven up the look of the world. My problems with them are: 1-They are very, very pretentious, pretentious people are annoying 2-They are incapable of laughing at themselves, anyone who is like this is a pain. I know this is similar to pretentiousness, but I felt it was worse. 3-They are cliquey. Cliquey people are just nasty 4-They are obsessed by their image. Taking care over it is one thing, being vain is another. 5-Goths, for all you may account it to youth, are really fake people to talk to. They're affected and will just go along with what all the other goths say so as to fit in. OK, so those points don't apply to all goths by any means, I understand that. Neither are they exclusive to goths. There maybe even be more nice goths other than the one I have met, OK, but the fact is, most Goths are really annoying. I should say that all this come from having met quite a lot of Goths in my time. I live in middle-class london, which among its main exports lists: Disaffected Youth Goths Wiggas Indiekids Twats Lawyers Money And I once went a-wandering in Whitby. Which was scary, but I did sit at the same table as some goths in a fish and chip shop. Apparently, Whitby is the Goth capital of Europe. Finally, I reckon that becoming a Goth is often an attempt a pulling. Which Justifies it somewhat. One another note: Hannah Brown declared me a Headteacher. Does this mean I get to order Ken around, being as he is a maths teacher? I have another sinister crush. I think I may have the beginnings of a crush on my alter-ego Ms. Pancake. Also, by the way, I have got a mysterious 40kb message from "Lee and Lisa" in reply to my last message. And I got a similar one from Archel the day before. Is there a virus going round or sommat? I also have a ridiculous celebrity crush on Thora Birch. I also have a crush on my friend Dan's sister Sam(antha), who I have never met but who I talk to on the phone occaisionally. She's 17, I have noooooo chance. !VIVA RACHELS! Rachel "Joe Vester" Pancake P.S. Alright, this wasn't much of a proper post, more a long-winded apology/explanation, and I'm sorry, I might do an apology/explanation for this post too. P.P.S.I may well go to the Obscured Camera gig. I don't own anything by them, but I did hear one song on the radio, and it was v.cool. P.P.P.S.I forgot to have pancakes as I was in a rush, I will have them tomorrow. Maybe I should buy some Maple Syrup. P.P.P.P.S. I like having all these new Brazilian types on the list. P.P.P.P.P.S. I sometimes think my rachel alter ego must confuse newbies. Am I called Rachel, or Joe? hard one... P.P.P.P.P.P.S. (last one, I promise) I know that they're really called Camera Obscura. My "obscura (geddit?) indie knowledge" is just about satisfactory" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antipopconsortium at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 21:41:39 2001 From: antipopconsortium at xxx.com (Kieran Devaney) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:41:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: In other news... Message-ID: The phrase "In other news..." has been unfairly compartmentalised i think. What usually follows it is generally a weak attempt at lightening the tone, probably cobbled together by the work experience boy, to make up for the tales of drug addiction and woe that constitute the main news. Rarely are the tales of 'a local man who has found a new and profitable use for the old lawnmowers he keeps in his shed...' much consolation; and so the phrase has become associated with naff, non threatening token local news stories, too bland to be amusing or interesting. How unfortunate. Theres a strange psychology attatched to these stories isn't there? Possibly syptomatic of the the kind of malaise that affects a semi literate culture: the need to trivialise everything, so however bad things are, it's really ok, because they've still found time for the comedy story. Everyone goes away happy enough, or at least no more sad than when they started watching. The point of this whole paragraph was to now give you a link to a(n) hillarious website which visciously mocks the very foundations of local news reporting, especially the type of stories i've mentioned above. But i can't find the link. I'm sure i saved it to the favourites folder, so you can imagine my surprise at not being able to find it. I realise this isn't much use to you as things stand. Sorry. If i find the link i'll let you know. "I belong to the race of the disinherited, and I shall die without ever knowing whether the treasure within me is diamond or paste!" Gustave Flaubert wrote that, in his book 'Sentimental Education', and that particular phrase struck a chord within me, and it sums the book up quite nicely too; pivotally located between pages 28 and 29 in my edition. I'll digress for a bit now because i feel like it, there will be a point to it at the end though, honest. In assemblies at school, the deputy head (Mr Vince Darby in case you're interested), used to do one particular speech at least four times a year, and it basically revolved around a quote from the 8th century (i think ) in China, which went on about the youth of the day not having as much respect for the older generations as was had in times of yore. Mr Darby tried to construe this as meaning that the 'youth' had been steadily losing respect for their elders for centuries; a vast downward spiral if you like, he would continue by pointing out then, that loss of respect was no new thing as regards society. He would finish by telling the school in general that we should buck up our ideas. Of course any vaguely savvy person would have interpreted said assembly as proof that the elderly (for the quote was from 'a wise elder') have always bemoaned their lost youth by blaming the young for being young, and have been doing so for centuries. On a wider level, proof that in terms of our behaviour at least, we haven't changed that much as a species. And thats where Flaubert and his book come back in, because the sentence i quoted at the top of the paragraph (it'll still be there if you missed it) was written sometime between 1895 and 1869, and it still has resonance today. Because 'Sentimental Education' is, at least in part, about dreams going awry, never quite achieving what you believe to be your destiny and unrequited love. This does make it a tough book to deal with if you still have your whole life ahead of you, and the last 50 pages or so are, frankly, quite shocking. So, perhaps we haven't changed so much as a species, as humans, as we'd like to think; 'Sentimental Education' is depressing because it almost says that your destiny is essentially out of your hands, theres a little bit you can do, but you are more or less confined to one path dictated by society and its strictures. Something lots of us worry about today. Not sure how seriously i take all this to be, and most likely i'll just push the ideas to the periphery and stick with my youthful idealism. For now anyway. But i'd recommend the book anyway, well worth reading. So the point is, don't listen to Mr Darby's assemblies, especially the repeats. The real reason i decided to email was because of some things i saw in town today, town being Birmingham city centre; for those of you who don't live here. I saw two surprising things there today, one more so than the other, and i'll tell you about the less surprising one first i think, to maintain the classic elements of suspense, and because it fits chronologically. The first bit mainly revolves around this particular bloke who may or may not be homeless, it doesn't really matter, though he looks, at least in my opinion, too healthy to be homeless, this is just conjecture however. Anyway he is always in town (that makes him sound a bit like a circus, but he's not), and he has the habit of accosting random people, usually people, on their own, who look a bit scruffy (i.e. me) and asking them for fags or money. He always does this with the same story, that he has lost his train fare and just needs a couple of quid so he can get back home "oh, and have you got any spare fags too mate?". Always the same story. Theres a certain nobility to this approach, and a disarming honesty about his lack of honesty. He doesn't ever even recognise my face, even though he must have asked me hundreds of times. I sometimes give him some change, but most of the time i save it for people i know are really homeless. The fags i can't help him with at all because i don't smoke. A month or so ago i suggested that, rather than approaching scruffy kids such as myself, he should go for the armani suited business types who inevitably will be carrying more money. He didn't seem to hear and just went away, i had nothing for him and so wasn't of interest. Today i saw him in town again, i was with my friend ian, who recognised him as i pointed him out. He was in the process of talking to a timid looking asian youth. Ian was telling me of the various times he has been accosted by the man, when two blokes who must have been in their mid-twenties came up rather aggressively behind this man, jostling him and shouting "fuck off" and other obscenities at him. I was worried that they were going to start hitting him, but fortunately they just walked off, occasionally looking back and shouting. Rarely have i felt more sorry for another person, i was shocked, but he glanced at me briefly as if this had not been the first time, and that he was resigned to the fact that it wouldn't be the last. Admittedly, this guy has pissed me off in the past, but i've never really been angry at him; it's the berghaus wearing fuckwits who genuinely get me down. I think the next time he asks me though, i'll give him something; it's odd how our opinions on people can change isn't it? The other thing i saw in town today which is worthy of note is a lot less depressing. I'd just parted from ian and i was on my way to get the bus, still a bit surprised at what had just happened, when almost directly in front of me was a girl, who was about the same age as myself i'd say, bedecked in full goth regalia (i have a feeling 'goth' isn't very politically correct term, but i know of no other which would convey the meaning i want), with multiple facial piercings, knee length black boots etc... i noticed also that she had a slipknot badge on her bag (their slogan 'people = shit' is quite important to the story... and i noticed it especially because slipknot aren't normally associated with goth types). The interesting thing is that the girl was pushing her mother in a wheelchair (this is slight conjecture on my part, but the resemblance was close enough for it to have been her mother, and it gives the anecdote more potency i think). This single image of the teenage goth, with all it's connotations of rejecting authority and especially ones parents pushing the wheelchair is one that will stay with me as long as i'm alive i think, a photograph would of course have been rude, and i didn't have my camera anyway, but hopefully you'll be able to picture it for yourselves. It seemed to be the perfect type of half-ironic paradox that a clever clever author like joseph heller would have pissed himself just thinking about, but i found it quite a moving thing; two disparate worlds coming together. I wondered what the girl was thinking, and what her mother (again, still conjecture), was thinking, whether this was a regular occurence etc etc. I thought about talking to them, but my natural shyness, and the feeling that i wouldn't be able to avoid the inevitable clich�s made me think again. I'm glad i didn't actually, explanations would have ruined the moment. I admired the girls guts more than anything, and puzzled over her slipknot badge; she obviously didn't hold with the idea that 'people = shit' (not that many slipknot fans do though i suppose), her whole dress was at odds with her actions. I suppose what i'm getting at is the slightly tired sententious clich�s that bemoan how much we judge people on how they look. But what a i saw in town today certainly gives them a new perspective; if the girl would have been on her own i would have certainly dismissed her as another middle class rich white spoiled girly, not intellegent enough to find an original form of rebellion, and has thus rebelled with what she wears. The act of care and attention i saw from her today completely recontextualised that image. At least in her case. Admittedly, i'm still baffled by it, and any possible clarification of why these two conflicting ideologies, of teenage rebellion and familial care, should have cause to come together, it would be much appreciated. Having just read this whole post back to myself, it strikes me as somewhat academic in style, probably because i'm interspersing it with writing an actual essay about Wilfred Owen. I can only apologise and promise to be more bouncy next time. peace and love -kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 21:36:24 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:36:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I'd love my car-if I had a license! Message-ID: <3C06AA57.8196D2D6@netopia.com> Went to the department of motor vehicles today and had my behind the wheel test for a second time, flunking again! At 25, is it wierd that just now I am getting my license? Listening to the new single was a great pick me up. Here in the San Francisco east bay area it was very hard to track down a copy of it. I eventually found one thank god! Gloomy day, wonderous for listening to B&S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 21:36:24 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:36:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I'd love my car-if I had a license! Message-ID: <3C06AA57.8196D2D6@netopia.com> Went to the department of motor vehicles today and had my behind the wheel test for a second time, flunking again! At 25, is it wierd that just now I am getting my license? Listening to the new single was a great pick me up. Here in the San Francisco east bay area it was very hard to track down a copy of it. I eventually found one thank god! Gloomy day, wonderous for listening to B&S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 22:39:19 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:39:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: think of a witty one liner, place it in the subject line Message-ID: you know its been a good party when people tell you what you were doing the next day and you can't remember a bit of it... ...and when the hangover lasts 'til 9pm the next day and where the huge bruise on my side came from, god only knows. although i can remember (and i'm not proud of this) puking from a window right down the sloping roof. i've really got nothing to say, i just thought i'd embarrass myself infront of 1500 people. hmm ever heard of a band called Aspects? young bristolian hip-hop group. doesn't sound too appealing? well they're on the radio now and the song just mentioned '16 candles', quite good actually. woo hoo! IWUTU is coming in the post tomorrow (12" no less) 7"s are so much more sexy than 12"s but you only get 2 songs on the 7" version. 12"s are infinately more sexy than CDs though so thats ok. did anybody catch that documentary on ch4 about the pixies last night? it was really good. apparently in the audience of their first uk gig were thom and jonny from radiohead and alex and graham from blur. actually johnny greenwood said that the reason radiohead are using less guitars these days is that there's only so much you can steal from joey santiago! i had a dream about the whole sinister gift x-change thing, a huge list of who was sending prezzies to who was posted, i think it was my first sinister dream. speaking of the whole sinister fantastic prezzie exchange style thing; when are we going to know whom we are sending to, llaura?, not that i'm impatient or anything but... well... yes i am, i'm getting all excited about chrimbo and its not even december yet, gah! the band known as 'the rock of travolta' are really quite good. they all have the surname Travolta, ramones style. the film '2001: a space odyssey' is on telly this christmas this is a rather good film, if a little strange. the last dialogue is 23 minutes before the end of the film so you kinda have to interpret the ending for yourself. and belle & seb are on 'later...' tomorrow! later is getting better i feel, it started off good but a few years ago all jools got on were crap old bands and african tribesmen banging turtle shells, but now he's at least having some new and good bands on: white stripes, the hives, belle & seb, charlatans, ash, etc. along with the crap (stereobollox, shitsailor, anastacia) i was right when i said i had nothing to say so i'll go and let you read someone else apologizing for having nothing to say bye then love Pez* PS. lindsey baker, i think i owe you an e-mail, sorry i've been so long, i'll do it soon i promise :) darth vader: i know what you're getting for christmas, luke luke skywalker: how? darth vader: i have felt your presents www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 21:47:03 2001 From: the_cats_pajamas at xxx.com (The Cat's Pajamas) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:47:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ...and you dare call this a college town? Message-ID: Grrr... I live in a relatively small town with a relatively large university in it. 30,000+ students with a correspondingly healthy indie/punk/emo scene. We have a couple independent "High Fidelity"-esque music stores in addition to the usual music uber-stores. Yet, despite this I can't find a copy of IWUTU anywhere is this bloody little pissant town. What's the use of having an independent music store if you're just going to carry 87 different versions of Dave Matthews' latest fraternity mating calls? I'm hoping not to upset anyone since I'm new around here, but living on this campus for 4 years has made me extremely critical of the greek system. Watching hordes of Abercrombie Zombies storming the bars and emerging piss-drunk EVERY weekend is wearing on me. For the most part, their priorities seem to be, not in this order, booze, sorority girls, and acting superior to those not in on their scene. Fuck them...fuck them with knives. {Sorry to steal that quote from whoever thought it up...I read it in my first couple days on the list and nearly fell out of my chair laughing. It's become a common element in my vernacular since then :)} To add to my anger, I was looking at buying copies "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" for all of my friends who haven't read it yet for X-mas. I'm looking over the details of the book and find that it was published by MTV...It's still a great book and all, it's just that the MTV thing kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Promoting bad music is enough of a reason to dislike MTV. All of the crappy new series/game shows and the cancellation of 120 minutes pushed me over the edge. I think it would be great to meet all of the Chicago area sinister-folk on the first...sadly I'm at school without a way to get back to the city. Perhaps we can play on the ferris wheel on Navy Pier or something once we thaw out from the impending winter. Laura Llew, I'm sorry for not mentioning this earlier, but my love for you is undiminished and my devotion everlasting. Please forgive me :) Jason (Who's researching a term paper and not usually this bitter) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Thu Nov 29 23:46:52 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:46:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i made her mother smile. Message-ID: last night i was looking for a book to do some research from and i couldn't find it. i looked everywhere in my room and eventually i tried under the bed. it wasn't there but i found something better. it was a shoebox full of mini discs with no labels on, i put it to one side and forgot about it. when i got back from college today, i lay on my bed and decided to put one of them on. it was just the most beautiful music ever. i don't know what it is but it's just so lush, all these guitars, cellos, violins, trumpets etc... doing all these really amazing songs. i don't ever remember listening to this before so i have no idea what it is. i don't even think i want to. you know when you hear music and see you see all these images in your head? it was like that, just great. even though i hate busses they are eventful. i was on the bus home from manchester the other day and i saw the oddest thing ever. there was this guy who was standing up and this girl sitting down. the guy was standing next to the girl and you could hear them talking, you couldn't make out what they were saying but you could hear them. after a few stops and more people got off it got quieter, you could hear them then. the guy had managed to tell the girl his entire life story and even managed to let her let him hold her hand. she reluctantly gave him his phone number and in return he gave her his tooth which he said "was falling out anyway". how lovely. it'd be ace to have that confidence, just manage to do that with someone. i wish i could. i've spent the last twelve weeks trying to make a girl notice me, which sometimes she does. sometimes she doesn't. sometimes our conversations rarely go past the weather or work we haven't done. once i spent an afternoon with her, just talking to her and it was great. ever since that she hasn't talked to me much and she's never around. you know when you know you would be good with someone but there's like a really big barrier in the way? it's like that. oh yeah, she's got a boyfriend too. whenever i look at the monitor it shakes. --- crying girl came round the other night. me and crying girl used to be really good friends but for some reason we're not anymore. for a while now she's made me feel different, although we're the same age she makes me feel like a twelve year old, she always seems to be doing so much more than i am. i know she only came round because her house is near mine and because of the convenience of it all, but i couldn't exactly tell her to go home. she came in and i sat her down and she told me about all her grown up problems that i have no idea about. and she kept on crying. i didn't really know what to do, but somebody told me that honey on toast makes people feel better. we didn't have any honey so i used nutella. i took it to her but she didn't want it, so i sat there eating it whilst she continued to cry and talk about stuff. i don't even think i was listening properly but after a while she stopped crying, got up, hugged me then went home. she felt better, and i felt kinda good too, and all i did was eat toast and daydream. the new single is great. kinda funky too, i like the new 60s thing they're doing. i think i like "marx and engels" the best, i get the image of stuart and some girl inside some launderette in winter whilst in rains outside. i don't know why, but i walk funny whenever i hear "i love my car"...i need to sort that out. i used to think george bush looked like a monkey, now around christmas his ears have changed and he looks like an elf. tony blair still looks like a goblin though. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daniel.cederberg at xxx.se Fri Nov 30 00:12:42 2001 From: daniel.cederberg at xxx.se (Daniel Cederberg) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:12:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Judy And Her Horses Message-ID: <001201c17933$bb847e40$8f3364d5@swipnet.se> Hello everyone. This day has seen a hangover of immense proportions. Last night i was a DJ at the uni here in Stockholm, and the free beer and free food and the free taxi ride home sure makes a poor student drink. Anyways, it was fun, and my indie-icon status just seems to be rising. I´m now know as Daniel from Sundsvall (a northern Swedish town) in some circles. (The indie-cool circles i might add). I played a song from the magnificent swedish band Penti and as it happened a bandmember was there and liked it. (They played the same song specielly for me at a concert of theirs a couple of weeks ago. Why you may ask? I wrote in their guestbook and told them a liked that song, and that I would attend their concert. Nice guys them are.) But I must tell you, before I started DJ-ing I thought that my lovelife would start to pick up it´s pace as a DJ, but nothing has happened yet. Are there any DJ´s out there with similiar experiences? Or there are perhaps other reasons for my unluck with the ladies. Must be my ultra-coolness i suppose. Well, I have to read some more Marx & Engels, there´s a test to be beaten tomorrow... Stay cool, and don´t forget to listen to Judy And The Dream Of Horses atleast once a day. Daniel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arlequim at xxx.br Fri Nov 30 00:21:39 2001 From: arlequim at xxx.br (arlequim at xxx.br) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:21:39 -0200 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Holden Caulfield's syndrome (connected to Joe Vester's crush on Thora Birch) Message-ID: <20011130002139.C37322797C@mx02.osite.com.br> I was reading again "The Catcher in the Rye" a few days ago. This book is one of those I take everywhere I go, so that I can take a look at it once in a while. There are others in the same situation, like Joyce's "Dubliners" and Anatole France's "The Island of the Penguins". I'd love to do the same thing with "The Magic Mountain", by Thomas Mann, but I have to be criterious - it's hard to carry an eight-hundred paged edition in the bag. Reading "The Catcher..." , I reached that part in which Holden Caulfield, Salinger's alter ego, says there are books that make him want to know the author personally - kind of making friends with the author, talking to him, asking about his fears, his assurances, drink a beer... And it happens to me frequently, at different degrees. And that's what I call "holden caulfield's syndrome". I must admit there are lot of possible H.C.S.'s, because the character is so incredibly "overloaded" you can see yourself in many of his manners. There are probably another technical name for this will to know people who talks to you by movies, books and TV shows, but I don't know for sure. As I read Joe Vester's message, I must say: I have an incredible celebrity crush on Thora Birch too. Just like that: the will to, at least, talk to her and discover if she had something to do with the nice roles she played in "American Beauty" and "Ghost World". I left the projection room after "Ghost World" just wanting to meet her outside, or anyone like she was onscreen. Someone that confused, that beautiful, that lonely... Probably I'd have nothing deep to tell her (my english is far too poor), but at least I could recite a poem or something... don't know... My "crush on" Thora Birch, I guess, is more like a syptom of Holden Caulfield's syndrome in the movie style. I felt totally identified... P.S. There are not many goths in Brazil nowadays, but I have to agree that they are a little too pretentious, almost funny. Being goth in Brazil is a risk, because the make up melts quickly with the warm weather. Ana, from Brasilia, is not a pretentious goth. She seems pretty nice. She's more like... authentic. P.S.2 I have a crush on Shirley Manson.... oh-oh, that girl singing "send me an angel to love..."!... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bdh52983 at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 02:09:01 2001 From: Bdh52983 at xxx.com (Bdh52983 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:09:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Is liking Dave Matthews a conflict of interest? Message-ID: Good evening Sinister. I'm sitting here listening to Dave and wondering what Stuart would think of these cats in this band. I reckon he'd like "Space Between" but then again who doesn't? According to ever-reliable MTV, no-one. But then again acording to MTV the Bells are just a figment of our collective imagination. Does that make sense? Crikey it's 9 pm and I'm already talking crap... How exactly does one recognize if someone has a "crush" on them? Cos Vicky said that Freshman girl does but I dunno and anyway I'm not sure I'd be down with that. As much as I want to be with someone, I feel like the glory of sitting alone at the edge of the crowd is almost more desirable sometimes. I can always get my emotional support from my cd collection (ha if THAT doesn't make me a sad bastard) bri +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 03:06:27 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:06:27 -0600 Subject: Sinister: but now old friends are acting strange Message-ID: sorry to post again so quickly. but i don't have anything better to do. you're laughing at me... heh. today at work, the music was better than most days. i can't say it was great, but it was....better. well. some of it was great. 'imagine' came on, and i was standing behind the counter and wiping salt and pepper shakers, and eradio was warming dinner rolls a few feet away. i heard him sort of laugh in a way that suggested he was laughing only to cover up an entirely different sort of noise, and i looked up and his eyes were welling over with tears, and he was hastily shoving the rolls into the toaster oven and looking down. so i looked down. and he said something quietly in spanish, and i looked up again. he looked back at me. and he spoke again. the song...it reminds him of his wife in mexico, of sitting and drinking wine and watching her laugh. that's what he said, anyway. and he opened his eyes very wide and then rapidly closed and opened them again a few times, then went back to work. and i thought of him....coming here, to america, and working in a kitchen to support his wife, a woman he hasn't seen in three years. and i pictured a young mexican couple, looking happy....drinking wine and singing along to 'imagine.' and eradio's english isn't that great.....he probably didn't know all of the words. but i can just picture it, the two of them in little wooden chairs, smiling and holding hands and raising their glasses..... so. i was sitting there thinking too hard, and i knocked over a salt shaker and spilled it everywhere. and someone reminded me to throw some over my shoulder, and i smiled but i didn't do it. i'm not quite superstitious. when we were very young, someone told my brother and i that we would have good luck for all our years if we could get close enough to sprinkle salt on the tail of a sparrow. i remember sitting by the kitchen window and watching with amusement as david crept around the yard, a can of morton salt in one hand and a catcher's mitt on the other....because if he could get close enough to salt the bird, surely he would be within a reasonable distance to grab the bird itself, which was far more exciting. he never did it, though. i think it's funny how we sort of...switched, in a way. not in terms of superstition....but. well. maybe not. i think i'm still reasonable. maybe he just became more.... he thinks i'm insane, which is sort of fun. things are looking better than ever. and i'm off to take a nap. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From flashboy at xxx.uk Fri Nov 30 04:10:29 2001 From: flashboy at xxx.uk (tom p) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 04:10:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't know, but like you just said... Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Fri Nov 30 08:02:29 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:02:29 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?al=ECbab=E0eiquarantaladroni?= Message-ID: <200111300802.JAA16371@mailserver.unimi.it> dear all Sinisters after, have completed to write a *so* boring thesis for *so* long, here i am, back and waiting for the defence day...mmhmhm... nothing to be much scared about anyway. after (2) have been almost fired by the france atomic agency, and had the real chance to join the army in a *very* proper time. after (3) .... I've found a postion in *london*, I feel I've beek really lucky.. for chanching rates of everyday lifestyle, improve my pour english, meet new people..... and most of all join sinister pic-nic which is something we, italian sinisters seriously *miss*.... take care stefano ::-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: -:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano (at present) | (from December, The 1st) Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante | School of Biological Science Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi | Queen Mary College Università degli Studi di Milano | University of London Via Celoria 26 | Mile End Road 20133 Milano | London E1 4NS Italia/Italy | U.K. Stefano.santabarbara at unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- :-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 09:26:27 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:26:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Christmas depression Message-ID: <20011130092627.89194.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> For me, it's always as many things have been left unsaid or undone. I start to remember: how beautiful was that girl I was dating!... she was really fine... but I missed the chance to tell her how much I liked her. And then the year ends. Time's over! When the year ends, forget it!! Think of something new, wait until the next wave, and so on... Beto wrote: And what about that plans of taking theatre lessons? and going back to music school? And calling that friend of mine, that propably has already commited suicide? Oh, no, I didn't do any of these things... and the year ends. It's like everything we planned, everything we hoped was going to come true just turns to dust... dust downside in the ampullete. Christmas depression. Its real. It sucks. When I was 14, by the time I was, oooh, eighteen, I was going to be the new girlfriend of Johnny Depp, and I would have written four novels. This time last year, I got itchy feet. I felt frustrated and thats when I decided to write a fanzine. I was also intending on growning my hair (especially my fringe for that sexy smouldering snarly shoegazer chick effect) and wearing doc martens. The only thing I haven't done is buy doc Martens. But in the summer.. well, by now I was going to be living in a lovely flat somewhere in glasgow, with wooden floors and luxurious big windows and have a balcony where I could keep my bike and a few pot plants. The floors would be wooden, and I already had my choice of furniture from Habitat and Ikea. (By the way, its not pronounced Eye-key-ah, its iky-ah). I had two bedrooms, one done up in purple, or maybe a passionate red, with a TV and a sofa bed. I was going to be working for the BBC, and driving a little car (or "mo'ha" as they say in Eastenders.) around the streets of glasgow, with Belle And Sebastian playing. And I would drive by the bus stops and see fellow sinisterians looking all folorn in the rain and I'd offer them a lift. In the summer I had all these grand plans. The ones I made last winter have mostly come to fruition. A few years ago, I bought a set of oil paints. I was going to be a painter. A few years before that, when I was still at school, I bought flares- for the first time ever, had a hair cut, and painted my bag with tippex. And other changes at new year? hmm. I've bought all sorts of things to try and relieve some of my realisations that I am: a. getting older b. Not doing the things I had planned to do c. Better do something about it. I think 2001 has been 80% sucessful for me. So, SINISTER! (WAKEY WAKEY! I've finished with the boring me me me stuff) What are your plans for 2002? tell your dreams... this time next year, what are you doing? where are you? What are the things you really want to do? Have you done some of the things with 2001 as you had intended? Is anyone else getting Christmas blues? Why? What about? What are your deepest, deepest dreams? How badly do you want them? I went to this thing on Tuesday which was a promotional night at the Holyrood Hotel in Edinburgh for work. They were trying to sweet talk me and thirty odd other women into making syure that we book all our clients ingto their hotel. Our company contract is a big one.and had my tarot read. It was fantastic. I was paranoid she might guess stuff about me. I was in my work clothes, and I took off my name badge incase she spotted my foreign first name. I didn't nod or shake my head, I didn't utter a word. But she predicted a load of things. That I was into music. I played a musical instrument. I'm working to earn money, to keep a roof over my head. Its the sensible option, but my heart is pulling at me to follow it. Only my dreams in my heart aren't safe- working makes sure I have money. I'm probably doing two jobs at once. I have a passion for writing. Well, you work out how true it is. I'm a temp. Its not a career move. I play guitar and am thinking of forming a band with my boyfriend. I write. (I'm writing a story right now as it happens). I'm the editor of a fanzine. So its made me question my work even more- why am I doing this? its made me more determined to follow my heart. If anyones interested, I have this womans number. right, better go, I'm off to stirling in five minutes. Cheers idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 12:00:59 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:00:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ease your virus in the sea (PLEASE READ) Message-ID: Please read: This is a public health message for sinister members. I think a few of you (especially those who have posted recently) would have been receiving mysterious e-mail messages from various members of the list. Titled Re: Sinister: whatever your message was. With some kind of attachments like Card.doc.pif or great music.mp3.pif. They are mostly characteristically 40k in size. And the tell tale sign is the ".PIF" extension in the file name, "great music.mp3.pif" may *look* like an mp3 file, but it isn't because the extension is actaully .pif which is a runnable program (and thus, probably a virus, why else would it be disguising itself as an mp3). I think this virus transmits itself by replying to every message you receive with a virus, and therefore something like this list would be very vulnerable as everytime you post someone would send you a virus (it's ok as long as you don't open the attachment) and so please, be careful. If you think you have a virus (e.g. if you've opened something like that recently - for example a supposed mp3 file that did nothing). Write me and I'll find out how to get rid of the virus for you. Or if you're a pretty girl looking for love, write me too. :-) Finally if you're an expert on virus removal please shed some lights as to how to get rid of these e-mail viruses. No puns today, with the seriousness of this virus talk I felt a pun would be ill-humoured. ahem. May all your computers be disease-free. Love and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 12:08:20 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:08:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Dog on Glue Message-ID: <124.84d0a42.2938d0b4@aol.com> I've been getting up far to early lately, my body's well up for getting out of bed and walking about but the brainpower needed to perform such a task is still in the land of Zzzzzz . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .... . . . .. . . Like last night/this morning I woke up in the dark, I put my trousers on but "where the f**k is the zip", it's not there. I wonder if perhaps these are my sisters jeans? Then I saw the time, (quarter to five!!!) "oh no I can't be doing with getting up now" and I took off the jeans noticing that I'd put them on the wrong way round and went back to bed. Now at some point between then and half eight I had a dream about the jeans being Levi's and that all I needed to do was twist the rest of my body round to match the jeans. (to much telly does this to you) Then of couse as I wake up this morning I'm in a bit of a state cos I think that last night I'd been in The Exorcist (spinning body parts etc..). It sounds so silly now I think about it but at the time I was well spooked. and this is not the end, I heard footsteps coming up the stairs which turn out to be Sally the dog, after trying to climb in bed with me she got bored and wandered off into my sisters room. a few minutes later she came back to show me a hairbrush she'd stolen, she looked quite proud of herself and found it hard to tell her off and put the teethmarked brush back. Then I fell asleep I woke up again soon after cos Sally licking my arm, it felt really strange, not like normal dog tongue/slober/hot breath but all rough and hard instead. I looked down at her and the thought "what a mess", she looked like she'd eaten some make-up or something and had like strands of white foaming dribble hanging out her mouth and into a puddle on the carpet before her. I went into my Sisters room and the same mess was spread about in there so I clambered over the bomb-hit that is her room and on the other side there was tube with a leak, it appeared to be moisturiser , turns out it wasn't a tube of moisturiser but of "Homebase double action", me and you would call it superglue and thats why I'm typing with hardened fingertips and Sally's got a soap in her mouth. What really amazes me is that the lumps of glue that are hardest to get off are the bits on her tongue, I wouldn't have thought it would stick there very well with it being so wet. ,,,,,,,,,................///////////////ppppppp I think the crescendo of fuck up's has just reached it's peak, about a minute ago. I'm here telling you lot about this morning's events and I've just spilt Swiss Style Alpen all down the keyboard. Stupid, stupid, stupid.......(repeat to fade) Check out the animal art.... (( ' ' )) 'jj' Elephant If you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR! James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 02:58:15 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:58:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ken in the snow, way Chu go! Message-ID: <20011130025815.21935.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Helloooooo Sinister!! I was so excited the other night when I finally sifted through all 149 e-mails that were in my inbox and developed the makings of a post that spanned over a week's worth of sinister coverage, when lo and behold--snippets without comment add up to 29k of information! TOO MUCH LOVE, SAYS I, ARRRR! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! Over all, I've only sifted through 'til tuesday (that was for you, Lisey! *Elise sings: "keep it down now, voices carry!"*) I found too many things I wanted to control-p on. Miraculously, there has been *lots* of B&S content lately, too! I think I'm going to do a batch-post thingie. This is part one. OK, I'll tell you lot who are depressed over Christmas-time that I used to be really depressed this time of year, too (moreso than usual). You know what helps? Not living with your parents. Call me fruitloopy, but I have had some really grate Christmases since I got a bit older. Maybe this is something that some of you depressed kitties out there can look forward to. I find that my mother especially LOVES to start fights on holidays, she tried her hardest on Thanksgiving but I used my secret grown-up game plan: going home! Yay! Apparently, I "have low standards" and can never "date anyone nice" so my mother has taken it upon herself to try to fix me up with a used car salesman and a magician! I'm sure they're nice, but, um... yes, I'd rather be drinking gasoline, MUTH-errrr! I felt I REALLY should have a molotov coctail, when mom yelled at all of us "kids + wives" (mind you, the youngest is 22) for PUTTING OUR DISHES IN THE SINK. That's right, IN the sink.*rachie yanks on Mandee May's jacket and pulls a face* I didn't get the telepathic memo to NOT put dishes in the sink, and neither did anyone else. In the teen years, we had no escape, but oh HAPPY DAY, I have my own house to go home to now! This factor can make any holiday mele� easily escapable! Also worth a mention (but not to my mom!): I AM SO EXCITED THAT MR.BEN APPS WILL BE ARRIVING IN LOS ANGELES IN LESS THAN 31 DAYS!!! I don't care that you list crush naysayers say nay, I say YAY! Ben is the bee's knees!! He has a lovely singing voice, you know! *swoon* I am PAST 25 years of age, and you know what? You kitties having birthdays and getting up into your 20's should really think about how cool it is to be YOU, with your good taste in music and your independence. I would not want to be a teenager again for all the money in the world. I think early 30's are going to be my prime years and I am looking forward to them. Besides, nobody ever knows how old I am anyway. Most of you probably look younger than you are, too! If all else fails, LIE ABOUT YOUR AGE! :) Now I'm going to have to use the Jedi mind trick to make you forget how old I am. Damn! That's hard to do the gesture through e-mail! There's no emoticon for Jedi mind trick, is there? It's ok to not be happy, though. I find that this season is the most tumultuous because it's cold and dark (for most of us, in this hemisphere) some of us are lonely, and a lot of extra time, money and effort must be spent in "celebration". I like to think of it as a transformation. This is the season of the dead. Out with the old, in with the new. When you're feeling down, try to think of all of the grate things that could happen to us this next year! Try to think of how pretty the lights are. Or just get drunk. That's what I do. I don't really have a fantasy. I think I need to work on that. I tend to get lost in the flip-flop between fantasy and reality. So many of you write dreamy things... most everything I have to say in this post is smutty or ridiculous. I am starting to feel like maybe I don't have anything worth saying to you. But that's just going to make me stop posting, and I don't want to stop, so I think I should just stop thinking. Yeah. No more thinking. For now... See what happens when it rains in southern California? It makes us crazy(ier)! ***WELCOME*** Carolyn Jacobson wrote some poems that were very pretty! Welcome Carolyn! Welcome to Mark Sweeney! A big HELLO to Elsa Chiao, the lurking lurker! Welcome to PATRICK DOYLE!!! Nice first post!! Welcome to Melmoz Melissa!!! When I see your name "Melmoz" I think of Melmac, the planet that ALF is from! Liz Daplyn, welcome back! ***KIRSTEN KENYON KORNER*** She's so awesome, I had to give her a separate section to herself!! Kirsten Kenyon wrote: "a masterpiece was created in blue ink..."bambi" meets "i love you, alice b. toklas."" I find this description to be utterly hilarious! Bambi is a movie that I can never ever again watch in my life, it breaks my heart... Especially since I'm a Disney fanatic. But, if Peter Sellars was in it feeding his parents pot brownies then I might give it another chance! irsten enyon wrote: "so we toyed with the notion that we might be 'too ool for onsonants,' and for several minutes we only used them selectively. but none of us could talk that way with a straight face for long. so i guess we weren't ool enough." When I read this, it really just struck me as being one of the funniest things I've ever read! It reminded me of a sign that my friend Vicky and I had on the front bathroom door at our old apartment in Studio City, which read "This is my ool. notice there's no p in it. I don't swim in your pool so don't piss in my toilet. Signed, the management." and it would confuse the guests so much that they would go use the other bathroom! I think that me and my roommate were the only ones who thought it was funny. yep... Kirsten Kenyon wrote of the Reverend: "he half-sang, half-shouted "wooeee an' we gotta baby girl inna plaid jacket, boys, you know what they say bout them girls in plaid jackets" and a few people yelled "WHAT?" and he just laughed a smokey sort of laugh and shook his head." I know what they say about girls in plaid jackets... They say they are dead clever and too adorable and smart to be stuck away at church! They say that, and I would have to agree. They would not be reverends, however, and that's probably why he didn't finish the statememnt. Ken Chu wrote: "Will Kirsten Kenyon ever write a bad post so mine can look good in comparison for once?" The answer is no, and shut up. Your posts are grate and don't you forget it!! I glow in anticipation when I see a post from "Kenneth PY Chu" in my inbox, I really do! My sister Amber and friend Vicky are now big fans of Kenny Chuey and they aren't even sinister. They just like slim Asian boys with potty mouths! ;) ***MUSIC*** Fabio Snoozer wrote: "the only cover-project we could stand playing would be a Beatles Cover Band. So here we are, the name of this band is Revolution #9 and we were hired to play in a big public event" Yay! This seems so cool! I am so curious to know what your band sounds like, especially doing Beatles covers! And that was A LOT of songs on your set list! Impressive! Astrid wrote: "we�re recording a cd for our own money this winter, it�ll probably be in 2002, and it will be fantastic. there are some talking about who�s going to sing. it might be me. eeeek! *excited-but-very-nervous-scream*" Your band seems really adorable and cool!! I hope that you DO sing, and that you get enough money together to record next year, and that you will make your cd available to all of us! Brighten will rock the world, YEAH!? Peter Carter wrote: "I'd like to announce the brainchild of Kara Jean* Daria Brielmann and myself, Fast Cow. It's a music webzine" www.ciahq.fsnet.co.uk/fastcow. I recommend that you go there now and beware the electric donut! ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN EP*** Trish Delish wrote of "I love my car": "it's just this great big boozy trumpet warbling away, kinda reminds me of miss hannigan and her crew in annie...ok. i am totally the only person to hear that, and now you all think i'm a freak." I *still* haven't heard it, but I'm getting absolutely giddy at the thought that the song could be anything like a song from "Annie", and I most likely will agree with you Trish, cos I'm a freak like dat! It's fun to assimilate things with other random things! Like the '80's sitcom ALF, for instance! Or Annie! Or Knight Rider! (eh, Robyn!?) Mike from Brazil wrote: "Last thing: if any of you are dying to hear the new single, Belle & Sebastian's record label here in Brazil, Trama, has full streams of all three songs (in Real Audio, Windows Media, and Quicktime formats, no less...) so check out http://moe.trama.com.br/trama/rock_js/rock_not.html and click on "Belle & Sebastian" at the top, and then choose your song and format, and wonderful music shall ooze from your speakers." OK, I'm a dork and I went to the site. And proceeded to not read Portugese, like I tend to do, and then I inadvertantly pressed a button that downloaded quicktime onto my pc and damaged 3 of my Windows system files... so, now my computer at home is down for the count! I will be reloading windows tonight! *rachie's a lame ass* David Moore wrote: "I'm Waking Up To Us must have a doggy style theme, as there was an advert in the nme the other day featuring Stevie also with man's best friend." Yep. And I don't need to remind you, nothing says "I love bestiality" more than Belle & Sebastian. I could go on more about this in a very crude and obscene manner, naming other positions the photos for the ep should have been taken in, but I think that would ruin the wholesome breakfast image that y'all have of me! Will Spike wrote: "And as I leave the shop, i notice a poster advertising IWUTU. Now all I have to do is find out who I have to speak to/beg/bribe/offer sexual favours to in order to get my hands on the lovely item once the Union is finished with it." What if I draw you one, would you offer ME sexual favours?! I'll consider it "working on commission" ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN LIVE*** This Graham/Tobi character wrote a GRATE post reviewing B&S in Japan which included points like: "1) Fred Savage, dimpled star of hit TV schmalz 'The wonder Years' did not simply just fade from the public eye as he grew older. Instead changed his name to Stevie Jackson and moved to Scotland, where he learned to blow a truly mean harp. Kawaii, ne?" OH MAN, I thought Fred Savage was looking pretty toadie (no offense, Stine!) by the last season and I figured that's probably why the show was ultimately ended... Stevie's a dreamboat, though! Talking about Fred Savage also makes me miss Katie Cheeriodle, I know that Katie enjoyed The Wonder Years reference, too, didn't you Katie!? and Tobi also said: "3) A carefully planned mullet can actually be very, very cool indeed- nice one Bob." Yeah, I think that old Belfast Bob could probably have any hairstyle and still look ravishing! The mullet is proof of that. Wasn't it Wesley Willis who sang in the song "Cut The Mullet" "Tell your barber that you are tired of looking like an asshole"? I believe it was him, or maybe it was Neil Diamond. That line of separation is fairly blurry these days! Claudia wrote of seeing B&S as if it were a dream and it was so sweet. She said: "We had stars all around us, and they were shining in the most beautiful way... everything was perfect...After some time one of the angels reached out his hand and pointed at me.. he said ' this one', he also reached his hand to a couple of other girls, one of them was my best friend... and we all flew to the clouds..." Awww, angels and clouds and friends and... awwww! That's too cute! I can't stand it! Robyn Fadden wrote: "so, i hear belle and sebastian did an encore in tokyo. an *encore*! i thought they were against them (well, they don't seem to do them anyway). but i hear they really liked japan and that was their last stop on tour, so... hm. but i can't help feeling that i could have done *something* to provoke an encore at their vancouver show. i think that maybe all the advances in robotics in japan created 'encore' mind-control waves. canada is just not doing enough in this important area of research. (cue ominous music and shot from robot's point of view.)" I think you could be right on this one. It seems like Japan always gets the rare songs and the encores and the better shirts and posters...waaahhhh! Robyn also said "never put salt in your eye" and I think you need to pin this note to your shirt, too: "mental note: get coffee-coloured shirts" ***BRAZIL*** Roberto from Brazil wrote: "When the show started, a guy on the left start yellin' the lyrics in Sepultura style, guturally. He didn't care about the melody at all, and cared a few about metrics: he just wanted to prove to everyone around that,although he had a terrible lack of musical talent, had spent about 20 hours a day in front of the stereo, so he could memorize every single line of every single song." Ohhhhh, that's so annoying, it really is! I am all for people getting into it and having a good time, but when it is so obnoxious that it hurts your ears then it is taking it too far!! And then Jeff wrote: "sorry about ruining your experience - i was just elated to be there, and singing and jumping is the way i reacted to b&s live." Which is understandable, too! The flipside is that maybe when someone around us is getting so excited about the show, we should just join them and act like loons, too! That's SO MUCH fun! Especially when you're excited and then the people around you are, it makes the whole experience take on a new life! And the JenOwl wrote: "I hate it when people have fun too. We should all sit about drinking cappuccinos writing bad poetry and savouring the philosophical message of the lyrics and pretending to be shy." Sarcasm is funny and all, and I think you definitely have a point Jen, but I also feel like if I was Roberto I'd be a little miffed by the indirect comment to him, unless I'm just imagining things and trying to start trouble! If that's the case, I'm sorry. Some people experience things to their fullest potential in different ways, and the solution to the conflict is obviously to move to a spot where you won't be so distracted. And that's just what Roberto did. One only needs to get an elbow in the neck a sweaty armpit pressed onto their shoulder while some madman wails in their ear once before they realize that the extreme opposite isn't the only type of listener that would be annoyed by this neighbor. But everyone has a right to enjoy the show in their own way, don't they? So everybody is right! Do what you gotta do! Ana from Brazil wrote: "Stevie's portuguese isn't only funny... rather cute, he really tried to do something pretty good, that was sweet." I can't imagine how adorable that must have sounded!!! It seems to me like B&S in Brazil was a pretty special event all around and I am so happy that they went there, and that so many of you posted about seeing them! ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN & STORYTELLING*** Mouche wrote of the 'Storytelling' soundtrack: "the storytelling credits list four belle and sebastian songs, three of which i've never heard of: the state i am in i don't want to play football scooby driver storytelling they're also credited with "music" so i guess there will be instrumental pieces too." I am so annoyed at the prospect that this movie isn't coming out in the U.S. until January 25th! Grrrrr! But at least it will be just in time for Ryan's birthday. Ryan is a grate movie date. I've heard a rumor that he has FINALLY escaped the nursery!!! shhhh! Don't tell him I told! He's probably planning on ambushing us all when we least expect it! Alexander Bartilson of the Swedish Siniser massive wrote: "Today I saw Storytelling on the Stockholm film festival. It was really good even though I think I have to see it a few more times to get some question marks that are currently circling around in my head straighened out." I hope that the movie is good, I really do. But from the sound of it, the soundtrack will be the best part of it and that's ok in my book! (ha, get it, storrytelling, book, erm...) I am one of those people who is easily pleased, though. I am not a good movie critic. If one element is good, then I'm happy. Helen wrote about Storytelling: "Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that Todd Solondz invited b&s (he seems to be quite close to Stuart M.) to create this songs specially for the movie which they gladly did (thanks there Todd!)." That's a very interesting concept...Stuart M has FRIENDS! Friends who make movies. Friends who aren't dogs or in the band with him! :) ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN MUSINGS*** Nafees wrote: "much to my surprise the person who played aerial looked almost identical to stuart. if you can imagine stuart wearing nothing but a loin cloth (which i'm sure some of you already do) and being covered in gold body paint then that was aerial. he even danced like stuart too." Oh, sure! I often think of Stuart in gold body paint and a loincloth... or sometimes it's him dipped in chocolate wearing a fig leaf... mmmmmm, forbidden murdoch! Oh, and I hope your mum is ok Nafees. There were some posts about B&S apperance on Later With Jools Holland. Every time I see the name Brandt Fundak in my inbox (Brandt wanted to know what # series this episode will be in, Neil said #17), I think I'm reading the name "Grand Funk Railroad" Can I call you Brandt Fundak Railroad? HA! I'm making myself laugh again, sorry! Anyway, can you believe it!? They're going to perform 3 SONGS on Later!!!! B&S I mean, not Grand Funk, or Brandt Fundak for that matter. David Moore wrote: "The first entry is a piece by one Stuart Murdoch, about fear of flying, safe little caf� booths, dear non-catastrpohic waitresses, well, why don't you go & read it yourself? http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/writing.html" yes, if you haven't read this, I think you should go read it right now, it will make you feel all smiley and content for the afternoon. At least, that's what it did for me! Tim Banning wrote: "the line "nobody writes them like they used to so it may as well be me" caught my attention, as it usually does. Then I was thinking about how some people have expressed that some of the songs on the new Belle and Sebastian single sound like their from the 60's. Well...maybe it's been Stuarts intention to write songs like that for a long time." This is a delightful concept to me. I never thought about the correlation between the line in "Get me away from here..." and the '60 's sound of B&S. I like that idea! Thanks for bringing that up, Tim! Idleberry wrote: "If you could ask a member of Belle and Sebastian any one question, what would it be?" I would ask Stuart if he noticed me and Dustin in the crowd at the 2nd Los Angeles show and asked us to dance onstage because we were "Smartly Dressed" or because Stuart just wanted to get down Dustin's pants? (and who doesn't? Dustin is H-O-T! Lemme tell ya!) If I could ask him TWO questions, the second would be "if I could arrange this for ya with Dustin, can I watch?" Ohhh, I'm a dirty ol'ladee! ***PRESSIE EXCHANGE*** Joan of Dark wrote about the Christmas Present Exchange: "So PLEASE be sure that you want to do this, its not something that costy or tiring, it requires just the minimum consideration on the matter�.Don�t just apply in the spur of the moment�.But it�s vital you really want to do this" After reading this, I have been debating over whether or not I should play. Now I'm scared! But I guess I had better make up my mind soon! Do we have a deadline for entry into the exchange, Laura, did I miss it? The Dairy Fairy wrote: "It's nice as well because you get to imagine who sent it. So that's an extra present of intrigue in itself." This is true also, I think it could be tons of fun to send people cool stuff!! Johan wrote: "can't wait for Xmas thingy to get underway, my pillowcase is washed and waiting... and my little mind a-thinking of nice things to send, so ask yourself: are you feeling lucky, punk (rock!)" I guess I'm feeling pretty lucky and pretty punk raque! So I guess I should play and you should, too! Ruvi wrote: "wouldn't it be far more miraculous to extend those feelings across every day and every hour, spreading a little light into all the Januaries, Mondays and hours when no celebration has been prescribed?" yes, I think that is delightful!! I think it would be fun to do a Valentine's Day gift exchange, too. I really *do* loathe that holiday because I'm always alone, but maybe it would be better if we all felt sinister together! Happy Belated Birthday to Histrianic!! And to Tim Banning! ***!VIVA RACHELS!*** Well, I know for a fact that the Rachels mixtape is making it's way across America and across the world! Lookout Chu, you will be the judge, yet! Rachel O.J. wrote: "rachels are probably the best in the world when it comes to mixed-tapes." I would have to whole-heartedly agree. Not to toot my own trumpet (well, yes, *toot-toot*!) I just made a super grate mix for my list crush, the sugar-sweet Mr.B Apps, so I think all of you Wills and Chris' and Rob/i/yns and Stuarts and Gertrudes are in for it! ;) Archel Toast wrote:"i hope my contribution to the mighty rachels effort will be as successful :)" And of course it will, my dear because the Raquels Raque! Rachel O.J. wrote: "i got so jelaous when i red about the two lovely rachels day togehter. it were miss fruitloop and miss cornflake, right? maybe there was someone else, but in that way, i've forgotten it." Yes, twas myself and Cornyflake and also the honorary Rachel, miss Katie Cheeriodle! It was so much fun! I am telling you lot, if you can manage to meet up with a fellow Sinisterine, I would do it asap! I just had dinner with a lovely listee who actually lurks the archives these days named wee Andreea and she is so terrific! She spoke fondly of KEN CHU and STRAWBERRY BOY and JEREMY BREAMS, and RachOLA CINNAMON, and many others! It felt like we belong to one big happy family! Kara Jean wrote: "I sit down and produce the cookie crisp from my backpack. Eating them is a delight. Cookies for breakfast. I can't help grinning." MAN, Kara, you should have jumped on The Rachels team for the MIXTAPE BATTLE!! You could have been Rachel Cookie Crisp, but instead I'll just think of you as Kara Kookie Krook! ;) ***Favorite Quotes*** "If it's any consolation, I'm much prettier than I was a few days ago."--Gordon "Conclusion: catillions are garbage. I am not high class"--Kate cut-up "This job sucks. I'd rather read my e mails. Go away."--Idleberry "Oh, don�t look at me like that, even the punky boy gives in to romanticism sometimes."--Jim Gilmer "it is when you connect that you're feeling life, rather than just living it."--Ian ***SHOUT OUTS*** YO to the Chicago Sinister Picnic folks this weekend, yo! Elise and Sean, Jimmy G., Ryan, THE RACHELS, and THE WILLS and THE CHRIS TEAMS! Also to C�dric Schott, Jim Taylor, Juju, Andreea, Toadie Stine, Mandee May, Danny Farrell, Caleb Ben, Ken Chu and my darling bunny Benny Apps! Alright kitties! This is all I have to post for now! Look out for installment Part Two, coming soon to a Sinister list near you! love, Rachel fruitloop P.S. RICHARD JOHN GILLANDERS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 06:18:05 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:18:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The future's looking wonderful... Message-ID: Have you ever been reminded of something out of the blue and suddenly become totally obsessed with it again? A book? A movie? A band? For me, at the moment, it's a band; LUSH God, someone happened to remark that the Lush "Best of..." album was pretty good and I ended up diving into the box of all my old tapes at the back of the closet until I had dug up all my old Lush albums. It doesn't get much more lovely than Lush's SPLIT album, which includes classics like "Kiss Chase", "Light from a Dead Star", and the utterly crushing "When I die". And let's face it, "Ciao!" is the best break-up song EVER! So, now that that's out of the way, what should I be on about? Ian said: "you'll be pleased to know. L7's "pretend we're dead" is playing in the background and it seems appropriate" Bastard, you're the one that stuck those Beatles tunes in my head too, now I have to go diving back to my tape box and dig out HUNGRY FOR STINK and BRICKS ARE HEAVY. Honestly, L7 mentioned on the Sinister list, I'm only slightly less suprised then when Ministry was mentioned. I already had "Can I Run?" pounding in my head at the mention of L7. (that was a brotherly 'bastard', btw, meant with affection) Ahh, the songs of my youth... Idleberry mentioned the Corduroy Smoke message board, and you should all go there, because it is ace. Sarah Clarke earned a special place in my heart when she said of the Smiths; "It's even better when the batteries run out and you can stop listening to that whinging old git with flowers stuck up his arse" Beautiful. She also mentioned McCarthy, and it's nice to see that someone else remembers them. I think I still have a copy of THE ENRAGED WILL INHERIT THE EARTH somewhere around here. Robin Stout said; "I've been *dancing* to I'm Waking Up To Us." It's extremely danceable isn't it? Sadly, I've got it in the car right now, and driving and dancing don't go entirely well together. Archel (and others) mentioned the original animated form of Lord of the Rings, and I have to add that it is indeed ace. Rotoscope animation is the type of animation used, I believe. It makes the thing look a bit freaky doesn't it? The follow-up was the Return of the Kings animation, but it wasn't done in the same style or by Bakshi, and it's utter shit. Rachel (Sunset) had some god things to say about happiness, and I can't think of any better way to put what she said. All the points she made about happiness are the straight truth. She said: "the moments of happiness have overtaken the moments of sadness and I find myself believing that things could be ok. just that little bit more" ...and that's beautifully true. That's life. Joe made five points about his problems with Goths, and I'm not giving Joe shit, cause I dig where he's coming from, but the thing is that I can replace the word "Goths" with "indiekids" or "christians" or "frat boys" and all those points could still be considered true. Yeah, most goths are annoying, so are most indiekids, so is anyone defined by an 'image'. I mean, the whole pancake make-up and black lipgloss and stuff is really kind of silly, but then again, some of those too twee for school indiekids can look and be just as stupid. Let's face it, the indieboy listening to his Smiths tape and banging on about how the world is full of betrayal and falsehood as he scribbles out bad romantic poetry into his notebook is just as much a twat as the goth banging on about death and twilight and such as he listens to some shit goth trance metal on his headphones. Joe did say he thought it was just an attempt to pull, and of course it is, most of those 'images' are an attempt to pull. nafees said: "i used to think george bush looked like a monkey, now around christmas his ears have changed and he looks like an elf" Bad enough he looks like an elf, does he have to talk like he's running a fucking Dungeons & Dragons game? "We will defeat the EVIL ONE!! We will crush the EVIL!! Colin! Roll your D20 to see if your vorpol blade kills the EVIL TERRORIST GOBLIN!" The fuck is wrong with him? EVIL ONE? Is he reading the draft script for Lord of the Rings? I keep expecting Gollum to slouch out from behind the podium or something; "Precioussss? I waaants my precioussssss..." Rachel Fruitloop said: "most everything I have to say in this post is smutty or ridiculous" Thank goodness, there's been an annoying lack of smut on the list lately. Where is the smut of the old Sinister I know and love? Hmmm, a lot of people have said a lot of things about Christmas depression and how much they hate Christmas and I can see where they're coming from. But Christmas, like everything else, is what you make it. I will say that like Rachel, I started liking Christmas a lot more once I was old enough I could decide whether I wanted to go my relatives or not. I always hated half my relatives, and I certainly hated going through the motions of having to pack myself into a car and drive off to their houses or entertain them at mine. And being an atheist at Christmas can be annoying, but I moved beyond my angry atheist phase and into my amused atheist phase. The whole commercialism and capitalistic angle of it used to dig at me to, then I realized that it didn't matter. I'd give prezzies to my friends and the people I wanted to and that was it. I've already said how I think of Christmas as Santy Claus day, sure it's just a day like any other, but I'll be damned if I let anyone get in the way of me enjoying myself. Like just about everyone, I've got a lot of negative experiences tied up with the holiday season, and that part of it's always hard, but it's not so very different from the rest of the year. Plus, there's that little punky boy inside me that insists that no one is going to spoil his day. Fuck all the commercialism and religious idiots and crap false sentimentality, I will enjoy myself because I won't let the bastards win. There's been a lot of talk of love and friendship and betrayal and the like on the list again, and I'll be damned if I have anything earth shattering to say on the matter. I've got lots of stories to tell about being screwed over, about love and friendships falling through and fucking up, and I guess I could dwell on them, but they're past. The holidays do get me down, because I start thinking about people I miss, and you start thinking about regrets and all that. A girl I loved very much killed herself not long ago. It didn't come as much of a suprise. She'd been dead almost two months when I found out, a mutual friend told me. We'd dated for a short time years ago, right after high school, and one night we were kissing and I slid my hand up her sleeve and felt the scars on her arm. She was a cutter, and she'd use a razor to carve herself up. Quite badly too. She had carved words like 'hopeless' into her arm. You'd never have known it from looking at her, she'd always wear long-sleeved shirts to cover the scars for one thing. She was a gorgeous young girl and she had a smile like you wouldn't believe. She cut because she said she didn't feel any control in her life, and she hated herself because she blamed herself for what her father had did to her when she was younger. And she told me, quite calmly, that she'd kill herself for real someday. We drifted apart, for various reasons, mainly because she couldn't handle a relationship and I didn't think I was helping, because I was just confusing her. The night I found the scars, we had talked in the back of a coffee shop, and we kissed and held hands and she said she never wanted to let go of my hand, and she didn't let go of my hand until we were at her house. She let go of everything a few years later. I knew another girl who'd been badly abused. Her father had once broken three of her fingers with a hammer because she'd shoplifted. She had a lot of problems emotionally, but we used to work together and she'd make me laugh every night, and she survived and she's got a family now and a kid and she's happy. My best friend recently announced he's having a baby, and he's got a great wife and a great job and he's one of the nicest, most stable people you'll ever meet, and once upon a time he'd told me he didn't want to live to see twenty-one and he devoured every drug he could and did everything he could to make sure he wouldn't. Then one day he met someone he could love and he cleaned himself up and now he loves life with a passion you wouldn't believe. The good and the bad. That's life, how you deal with it and how you take it. I do get sad at this time of year. The hypocrits and their false love and joy they plaster on just for show, and the commercialism, and the lonely people I see and talk to, and all the sadness that goes along with the holidays, even though were not supposed to notice it or mention it. Fuck that noise, there's a better world out there, behind all the bullshit. Find the people, and places, and things that make you happy and hold onto them. We only get one shot at life, so enjoy it. None of us are alone, just look at this list, everyone goes through the dumps and gets the short end of love and everyone gets the highs and the lows. We're all living inside the same skin, dealing with all the little horrors of being human. I'm nearing the rambling stage I'm afraid, and I've fallen into seriousness and sad bastardy near the end of the post. Ah, bugger it, the old hippie inside me is showing. Cheers and shouts to Laura Llew, Kirsten, Rachel Fruitylooper, Elise, and the rest of my friends. And a tip of the glass and happy thoughts to all the lonely people, I know things might suck, but there's better things out there, and I hope you all find them. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 17:50:06 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Archel Playforth) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:50:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: doggie style Message-ID: <001301c179c8$82302d20$63557ad5@aqlzosqt> so, 'i'm waking up to us' arrived on monday in its frankly disturbing cover. sarah looking decidedly ruffled in the back seat with a post-coitally relaxed beagle. richard grinning madly in tight trousers, holding a small fluffy thing in a vice-like grip. isobel in her leather and her drugged, come-to-bed eyes, fondling that poor westie's collar like she might be about to strangle him. conclusion: belle and sebastian have finally come out as the filthy-minded boy and girl racers we always suspected they were. but what about the music? i've been mostly listening to it over breakfast, which is a fairly depressing way to start the day if you pay attention to all the lyrics... IWUTU: 'new' b&s in the same vein as jonathan david, and pretty much just a different angle on the same themes as that song, ie. 'she's with a guy/who takes the prize for everything i ever showed her', 'she grew up and she left the rest of us', 'i haven't changed, how could i?' stuart's enunciation is certainly odd, he seems to be going for a sort of old-fashioned cabaret sound? shades of scott walker is matt's verdict. ILMC: a novelty record by any other name... an nice big romp instrumentally, but will always have its greatest impact live i think. who could forget stuart finally letting it all hang out and doing the special car-worshipping jig at RAH? MAE: yay, back to the old school. shades of 'century of fakers' as well as 'take your carriage clock'. the ending is particularly lovely, and you know that only stuart murdoch would produce those lyrics: 'the girl just wants to be/left alone with marx and engels for a while/she's writing in the style/of any riot girl'. so, 7/10 this time, murdoch. but detentions all round for lewd behaviour. any chart predictions? luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9852611 at xxx.ie Fri Nov 30 12:45:48 2001 From: 9852611 at xxx.ie (9852611 9852611) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:45:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: we're a disaster Message-ID: first sinister mail in two years - and it's nothing but list abuse!! anyway, the meet up board and forum on the jeepster site aren't working, so if anyone from the republic of ireland going to the gig in belfast wants to meet up - get in touch!! short but sweet, louise ps where has honey gone?? i miss his posts!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Nov 30 13:31:53 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:31:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm Walking up to the Bus Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC059046@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> George Harrison, RIP. Not as much of a tragedy as Douglas Adams' death earlier this year (because, let's face it, the Beatles were shit ;-) ) but still a shock. In other news, there's an ad for Storytelling doing the rounds on TV at the moment. The first half of the ad has an instrumental backing that sound suspiciously B&S. Keep an ear out for it... Also on a B&S theme, as of Monday, you will be able to go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 and vote for your favourite Record-of-the-Week from Mark and Lard's show; Jonathan David will be there amongst the options. Of course, I would never suggest that everyone votes for it as many times as they can to make it Number 1, because that would be cheating, wouldn't it? Disappointingly, for the first time ever, Selectadisc (aka the best record store in the Midlands) have let me down. They haven't got the Camera Obscura album in stock. Any suggestions where I might be able to get a copy? Meanwhile, the Tompaulin album is starting to grow on me, even though it's clearly not as good as their early stuff... I guess I'll have to go back to listening to David Bridie or The Whitlams... The problem with goths is that they take themselves waaaay too seriously. And that's definitely not a good thing. Personally I would be deeply offended if I was ever accused of taking myself seriously. Life's too short for that kind of thing. Oh, and apparently accoring to our Athenian correspondent, I now exude coolness like cheap cologne. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. But I like it, because it's the first time my name and 'coolness' have been used in the same sentence since, well, ever. Well, we're all getting excited about B&S's TV appearance tonight. A fine way to start the Christmas season; seeing in December in the company of B&S. But how will it go? The current betting odds are as follows: 1-5: B&S play "I'm Waking Up To Us" Evens: B&S play "I Love My Car" Evens: B&S play "Marx and Engels" Evens: B&S play "Jonathan David" 5-1: B&S play "The State I Am In" 500-1: B&S play "Electronic Renaissance" 3-1: Isobel doesn't appear because she's 'afraid of flying' 3-1: We spot a member of Sinister in the audience 2-1: We spot Neil or Katrina in the audience 10-1: Jools Holland accompanies the band on the piano 1-10: Jools Holland introduces the band by saying something in an annoying whiny voice Evens: Everyone goes to get another beer from the fridge as soon as The Lighthouse Family start playing 5000-1: Tom Jones appears onstage dressed as a gorilla 10 hours to go... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Nov 30 15:43:06 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:43:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Independent Message-ID: <00b901c179b5$b53b7a20$e804fd3e@neil> There's an interview with the boy Murdoch in The Independent today. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilker at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 16:20:56 2001 From: tigermilker at xxx.com (mark w) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:20:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ladies of the Night Message-ID: idleberry said: >I went to this thing on Tuesday which was a >promotional night at the Holyrood Hotel in Edinburgh >for work. They were trying to sweet talk me and thirty >odd other women into making syure that we book all our >clients ingto their hotel. Hubba hubba! I didn't know the hotels encouraged that sort of business, especially respectable ones like the Holyrood, and I wouldn't have thought that they'd make a lot of money by the hour, but who knows? Hee hee hee *snort* ahem. Sorry, I'll get back in the lurker box. But not until I've said that the new single (it is a single, really, isn't it? Needs 4 songs to be an EP in the old-stylee way. IMHO) is fantastic once you've given it a chance. Iwootoo is definitely a bit of a grower, ILMC (anagram of MILK. Nearly. I mean, what are the chances????) is grate for stomping around during the brass solos, and Marx & Engels is just pure classic B&S. Right, back in the lurker box now. mark (P.S. - It's OK for me to make smutty inuendo's about idles, being the idlebloke. She'll still twat me for it though.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Nov 30 16:46:30 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:46:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: In other news... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC059048@pikachu.ntu.ac.uk> OK, to show that I'm really bored at work today... Here's the article from the Independent... Big Stu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Belle and Sebastian: Scots of the arch antics Forget Travis: Belle and Sebastian are your real sensitive indie band - they just aren't quite as famous. As Stuart Murdoch tells Fiona Sturges, it wasn't all about the limelight 30 November 2001 When Belle and Sebastian released their first album, Tigermilk, in 1996, Travis were still trawling London's toilet venues, Coldplay were at university and Starsailor didn't exist. Since then, sad, sensitive bands have become hard to avoid. Yet Belle and Sebastian, who are probably the saddest and most sensitive of them all, have yet to reach the dizzying commercial heights of their peers. I meet Stuart Murdoch, the band's singer and chief songwriter, fresh off the plane from Japan, where they've been on tour. When I say "fresh", I mean just that. Tidily dressed in a black polo neck, he looks unfeasibly alert. He's full of stories from Japan - about how he stood in the street during an earth tremor, watching people go about their business as if nothing was happening, and how, with true Japanese hospitality, the band were treated like kings. He's a serious-minded and circumspect individual - he doesn't laugh much - but he's still good company. When I ask if he feels Belle and Sebastian have anything in common with Travis and Coldplay, he replies: "Well, we all have a crack at a tune." He pauses for a while, then continues: "I feel very lucky; I'm quite happy with my group. In fact right at this minute I've never been happier and I think we'll give them all a run for their money now. We'll give anybody a run for their money with the way we're playing." You have to admire his optimism. The fact is that Belle and Sebastian have always been better, avoiding the empty emoting and formal rock structures of Travis in favour of a more subtle and pastoral sound. Songs such as "Fox in the Snow" and "The Boy with the Arab Strap" set flutes and shimmering strings alongside Murdoch's fragile vocals and splashes of acoustic guitar. The band, who come from Glasgow, have eight members, none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian. When they go on tour, the numbers can reach 13 with the extra fiddlers and flautists. Murdoch is brimming with confidence about their live performances: "Playing live's been a bit of a pain in the past. I know we've sounded awful. But we're very organised now. We're learning all the time, but it's going like a dream." Still, it seems the recording process hasn't become any easier. Murdoch says he came "close to a nervous breakdown" last year while trying to finish their fourth album, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant. The recording of their latest single, "I'm Waking up to Us" - a fabulously embittered song about a dissolving relationship - didn't exactly go off without a hitch either. They hired Mike Hurst, whose previous credits include Petula Clark and Cat Stevens, as producer. "He's a great guy but he didn't deliver the finished product," Murdoch explains. "We had to work very hard afterwards to polish it up. We really need a catalyst, someone who can harness the creative chaos of the group. I suppose we're dreaming of a George Martin figure, but it's not going to happen." If Belle and Sebastian were ever to reach the levels of fame that Travis have achieved, you wonder whether they would cope. In their early days, the band were pathologically publicity-shy. For a long time they wouldn't have their photographs taken, going so far as to stick pictures of their friends on their albums' sleeves, instead of their own. Murdoch avoided giving interviews, leaving the talking to other members of the band. "We didn't quite push away the limelight, as that suggests we weren't looking for it in the first place," he states. "But we weren't interested in that side of things either. There were other things to be getting on with. The band was developing, and for a lot of the time we were in a real mess." Does he feel like an outsider? "Yes - but then it's very easy to be on the outside where British music is concerned. If you're just yourself and you don't bow to the demands of the press and the music industry, then you're bound to be seen as an outsider." They're certainly a hard-working lot. They've made four albums in five years, as well as a handful of EPs, and there are any number of Belle and Sebastian side-projects - the Gentle Waves, Snow Patrol and V-Twin, to name just a few. The band were also the brains behind the Bowlie Weekender, the springtime festival held at Pontin's Holiday Camp in Camber Sands, which later spawned All Tomorrow's Parties. More recently, there's their somewhat controversial contribution to Todd Solondz's latest film, Storytelling. At the mention of Solondz, Murdoch becomes visibly irritated. "To tell you the truth, it almost isn't worth it, what we did. We had lots of ideas, and Todd used very little at the end. I know he was having a really hard time finishing the film, but it was very disappointing for us. I'd really think hard about getting involved in something like that again." Murdoch's musical aspirations arrived late in life. Whereas most musicians spend their adolescence listening to John Peel in their bedrooms, Murdoch preferred being outdoors and, for a while, harboured dreams of being a runner. In the end, he says, he just wasn't good enough. After school, he tried a variety of jobs: as a caretaker, a farm-hand and - this one's hard to imagine - a barman at Butlins. He didn't even start writing songs until he was 23. Murdoch and Stuart David, the band's bass-player, met on a youth opportunity scheme. "It was something the Tories cooked up to get you off the unemployed list," recalls Murdoch. "We were learning to be musical engineers or something like that." The pair then moved on to do a media business course at Glasgow's Stow college, set up by the part-time producer Alan Rankine. Every year he helped a group of students to make a record, usually a single, and put it out on the college label, Electric Honey. On recognising Murdoch and David's talent, he made an exception and allowed them to make a whole album. "We had to do it quickly," Murdoch remembers. "In three months we had to get a full band together and make a proper record. We ended up recording it in just a few days. Obviously, we had luck on our side." That record was Tigermilk. A thousand copies were released at the time - original copies now change hands for up to £400 - though, two years ago, because of popular demand, the record was re-released. It was with "3.. 6.. 9.. Seconds of Light", the third in a trio of EPs released in 1997, that Belle and Sebastian finally troubled the charts, albeit at No 31. Greater success came with their 1998 album The Boy with the Arab Strap, which reached No 12. Just last year they played on Top of the Pops and performed a show at the Albert Hall. Those are landmark events in the lives of most bands, although Murdoch, as usual, is underwhelmed. Then, of course, there was the notorious Brit award. Belle and Sebastian bagged the best newcomer prize in 1998, to the outrage of the other nominees. Rumour has it that Pete Waterman, the man behind Steps, called for a re-count. "I didn't pay much attention," says Murdoch. "I certainly didn't know what a big deal it was until after we had got it. But I remember, we were recording in the studio the day after. All these television crews were coming in and out - the BBC, ITV, the lot. After we'd finished in the studio we bought a newspaper. Suddenly we were front-page news in the tabloids - one of them said "Scots Band Cheat At Brits" or something like that. At first we were really angry but later we saw the funny side." Then he adds, with a sly smile: "Let's face it, it's probably the first and last time we'll ever be on the front page of a newspaper." ------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 16:56:55 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:56:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Independent Message-ID: hey! <> Thanks Neil! I had an unread copy in my bag which had doubled as a rainhat in the morning, was falling apart, and about to end up in the bin. But it was saved! The article's quite insightful I think. For all non-British listees (and all you British cheapskates) it's here; http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=107508 Hope that works, I never know with links. I'm trusting my mum to record Belle and Sebastian tonight. She'll be swotting up on the video instruction manual right now. Then I'll come home at Christmas and she'll say "I recorded that Boz Scaggs for you. Hope it's okay. What a lovely man. Groovy, I suppose you'd call it. I caught a bit of that nambly pambly group that was on before, but I didn't think much of them. Fancy getting so excited about an arab strap! Cock a hoop they were! Well, that's what we called them in my day! I remember..." Arghhh! Nooo! I was in a record shop yesterday and was surreptitiously putting "I'm Waking Up To Us" in front of all the Geri Halliwell singles. Ha ha! I still find the whole doggie concept a little terrifying. Not quite as terrifying as Ms Halliwell, though. On the subject of arab straps (well, my mum was anyway) I saw an advert once for something called a Love Glove. So did Stuart by the sound of it; "I could even find it in my heart to love my glove" Maybe I'll get one for Christmas... R x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 18:37:43 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: why don't you say the things you used to say? what makes you treat me like a piece of clay? my hair's still curly and my eyes are still blue, why don't you love me like you used to do? Message-ID: <20011130183743.72857.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> kenneth got 'ejaculated' from a night club. I got ejected later. by the same guy. we reckoned it must have been his first night. he was throwing lots out. power-trip? I don't go in for that sort of thing myself. but-yes. my exit was much more contrived. YET. NOT AT ALL contrived. maybe I want 'engineered'. or maybe I have it. whether I want it or not. and later ladies looking for information pertaining to my persuasion. and telling me all about their flooded hotel rooms. and missing boyfriends. alasdair had a birthday party. I gatecrashed. with karl stockhausen. ignoring the number of varieties and singing the beatles. and soon it was all jeepers creepers. and ally wielding his instrument. briefly. and reflecting on age. and in pint glasses. and half pint glasses. much pool was played. I didn't realise just how much until afterwards. three times we didn't finish on the black. three times I shrugged. and a juicy one concluding the final game with three tremendous shots. it sure was fun. I wish I knew about parties I could actually gatecrash. or turn up uninvited to. david moore reckoned he looked... when talking briefly about the byzantine empire. I forget. how exactly that he thought he looked. and I cannot access the archive at the moment. I remember there was some...curling up in embarrassment? I can assure him he didn't look... not even slightly. I think he might have looked...knowledgeable instead. but. I forget. I was tired that night. tireder. lots of people say 'poor rich' when they talk to me. I get asked how I am and I tell that I'm 'okay'. sometimes I make a face. enforcing just how okay I am. I don't say much. and because usually what I do say is some sort of complaint. about. however. and they say 'poor rich'. and I say 'yeahhhh'. because I don't know what else to say. I got the new single. and saw some fantastic dancing. there were no mirrors. I like it. mostly. I had thought it could be a lot of fun. I also got the new chilly gonzales single. that's a lot of fun. 'the gillanders defence'? I stopped playing chess years ago. scrabble is preferred. even if my dictionary goes no further than 'w'. I don't have a television aerial. I do have a television. I'm going to amsterdam next week. missing dear jo-jo's birthday celebrations. unfortunately. I sort of don't want to. go. AND if I get to apologising in the future. I'll make sure there's an obvious WHO and an obvious WHY. I've decided not to smoke. here. I don't mean to sound melancholy. sometimes I think 'ouch'. sometimes I think 'ouch, ouch, ouch'. hello, richard. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 15:20:16 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:20:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ann Summer mating (please don't read) Message-ID: I don't know what came over me on that last post. Sorry. I get very depressed during Christmas times too, cos I have to hear people WHINGING ABOUT CHRISTMAS all day. Just have a pint and get on with it. Either that, or listen to a great Christmas song by the Red Bull Dozers on http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd and feel all depressed and sorry for youself. People who always dress in nothing but courdroy and duffle coats are way better than goths. especially those who only buy them from second hand shops, cos that proves that they don't have the same taste as anyone else in the world and therefore indie. I like Jools Holland, he reminds me of me, basically, a twat. Hmm, ok actually he seems alright, and now B&S will be on his show and I can't wait. So, did anyone actually win a ticket to go see Stu M jam with Frank's Afro Beat? For anyone who is annoyed that Christmas is just an excuse for Capitalism and Commercialism, I would suggest you all buy "Anachists for Dummies", only �23.99 from all major bookstores - credit cards and bankers drafts accepted. Anachists is probably the wrong word anyway.. oh well who cares what the word is. For those of you interested, I did in fact have a sausage sandwich this morning and it was scrumptious as ever. Is that enough shite to balance out the useful information in the last post? Shite and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Some info on getting rid of the virus kindly sent by Archel.... >>> perhaps you'd like to forward this to sinister as i think these are the most useful instructions for getting rid of this virus. it worked for me. apparently the virus doesn't do anything too nasty, but the inconvenience of it sending itself to everyone who's ever emailed you is bad enough. if you have outlook or outlook express don't even open emails with suspicious attachments - it can get through without you opening the attachment itself. ********************************* WORM_BADTRANS.B Risk rating: Virus type: Worm Destructive: No Aliases: W32/Badtrans-B, BADTRANS.B, W32/Badtrans at MM, W32.Badtrans.B at mm, W32/BadTrans.B-mm Description: This memory-resident Internet worm is a variant of WORM_BADTRANS.A. It propagates via MAPI32, has a Key Logger component, and arrives with randomly selected double-extension filenames. It does not require the email receiver to open the attachment for it to execute. It uses a known vulnerability in Internet Explorer-based email clients (Microsoft Outlook and Microsoft Outlook Express) to automatically execute the file attachment. This is also known as Automatic Execution of Embedded MIME type. Solution: 1. Delete the System\CP_25389.NLS file. 2. Click Start>Run, type Regedit then hit the Enter key. 3. Double click the following: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft >Windows>CurrentVersion>RunOnce 4. In the right panel, look for following registry value: kernel32 5. Click the registry value and then delete it. 6. Restart your system. 7. Scan your system with Trend Micro antivirus and delete all files detected as WORM_BADTRANS.B. To do this, Trend Micro customers must download the latest pattern file and scan their system. Other email users may use HouseCall, Trend Micro's free online virus scanner. if you don't delete the file and registry value first you won't be able to get rid of the virus when you scan for it. and you need a totally up to date antivirus scan because this one is brand new as of 24th november. good luck! archel xxx ps. sorry to send boring stuff like this to the list. <<< _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 20:45:11 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:45:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: for the protection of our bridal gowns, please remove your shoes. Message-ID: <20011130204511.2716.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> so i'm sitting here listening to an absolutely SWINGING cd called "uh-oh!" by a group called Tipsy. it's totally tiki lounge music full of water bubble noises and strange vocal samples from old exotica records. i feel like i should be sipping a triple zombie on a white beach surrounded by groovy hipsters and the occassional foreign spy. in a word: KEEN. check it out. especially the songs "sweet cinnamon punch" and "neon tetra" anyway. its a grey day here in the bustling metropolis of minneapolis. there has been alot of talk, primarily by a certain sinisterine, about the bad qualities of Goths. well. he's right about all those bad qualities he listed. they are BAD. truly. BUT! seriously, dont those same BAD attitudes apply to ALL people who tend to pigeonhole themselves into some genre of society? be they goths, indiekids, punks, whatever. people need to be judged on their personalities, not on their dress or amount of eye-makeup. i love many old goth bands. i love many indie bands. i love scandinavian folk music. i love zydeco. i dress like me. thats my pigeonhole. you are all right, there ARE alot of avant-goths out there who are very snobby and pretentious. but i beg you all to see that there are just as many avant-indiekids also. and they are just as pretentious as the others. guys: who of us hasnt met a beautiful girl who is keenly dressed, introduced ourselves, and breathed a silent sigh of dissappointment and yes, JUDGEMENT, when she said "oh yeah i just got back from the EMINEM concert, it was ACE." you see? it easy to be judgemental. i'm very guilty of it myself at times. i would hate to be judged harshly as being an "avant-goth" by indiekids cause i have dyed black hair and write poetry and occassionally listen to bauhaus and sometimes wear a Dead Can Dance t-shirt. we are all different people, with different backgrounds and different friends, and we all need to IGNORE all the snobs out there, WHOEVER they are, and just make sure that WE ourselves arent being snobby or pretentious. whenever we point a finger, there are three pointing back at us. assumption starts with an ASS. ok , thanks for listening to my little ranting. i really have no ill-will toward anyone, especially not my fellow honorary rachel joe vester. i just hate people making blanket statements about people thats all. props to DAHLING for reading "a heartbreaking work of staggering genius" its awesome isnt it? i love love love it!! i'm currently reading "100 years of solitude" by gabriel garcia-marquez. its prolly my 5th time through it but its so full of detail i love it more each time. i send my love to all of you, but especially: ULLA for having such an adorable sleepy voice. JOE VESTER for getting me to think. ELISE in madison---you're not mad at me are you? SHAWN KRUEGER in MI. VU sleeper---sorry i havent called you, i've been really busy, but we must get together soon! ummm.....oh yeah KRISTEN KENYON for writing such beautiful and engaging posts. MARC in the netherlands for getting the sinister translation game off and running. LINDSEY BAKER for having a strong heart. thats all folks.......till next time, dont forget to blow out the candles before bed. -----caleb ben ===== "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle." ~Plato "Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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As Stuart Murdoch tells Fiona Sturges, it wasn't all about the limelight 30 November 2001 When Belle and Sebastian released their first album, Tigermilk, in 1996, Travis were still trawling London's toilet venues, Coldplay were at university and Starsailor didn't exist. Since then, sad, sensitive bands have become hard to avoid. Yet Belle and Sebastian, who are probably the saddest and most sensitive of them all, have yet to reach the dizzying commercial heights of their peers. I meet Stuart Murdoch, the band's singer and chief songwriter, fresh off the plane from Japan, where they've been on tour. When I say "fresh", I mean just that. Tidily dressed in a black polo neck, he looks unfeasibly alert. He's full of stories from Japan � about how he stood in the street during an earth tremor, watching people go about their business as if nothing was happening, and how, with true Japanese hospitality, the band were treated like kings. He's a serious-minded and circumspect individual � he doesn't laugh much � but he's still good company. When I ask if he feels Belle and Sebastian have anything in common with Travis and Coldplay, he replies: "Well, we all have a crack at a tune." He pauses for a while, then continues: "I feel very lucky; I'm quite happy with my group. In fact right at this minute I've never been happier and I think we'll give them all a run for their money now. We'll give anybody a run for their money with the way we're playing." You have to admire his optimism. The fact is that Belle and Sebastian have always been better, avoiding the empty emoting and formal rock structures of Travis in favour of a more subtle and pastoral sound. Songs such as "Fox in the Snow" and "The Boy with the Arab Strap" set flutes and shimmering strings alongside Murdoch's fragile vocals and splashes of acoustic guitar. The band, who come from Glasgow, have eight members, none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian. When they go on tour, the numbers can reach 13 with the extra fiddlers and flautists. Murdoch is brimming with confidence about their live performances: "Playing live's been a bit of a pain in the past. I know we've sounded awful. But we're very organised now. We're learning all the time, but it's going like a dream." Still, it seems the recording process hasn't become any easier. Murdoch says he came "close to a nervous breakdown" last year while trying to finish their fourth album, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant. The recording of their latest single, "I'm Waking up to Us" � a fabulously embittered song about a dissolving relationship � didn't exactly go off without a hitch either. They hired Mike Hurst, whose previous credits include Petula Clark and Cat Stevens, as producer. "He's a great guy but he didn't deliver the finished product," Murdoch explains. "We had to work very hard afterwards to polish it up. We really need a catalyst, someone who can harness the creative chaos of the group. I suppose we're dreaming of a George Martin figure, but it's not going to happen." If Belle and Sebastian were ever to reach the levels of fame that Travis have achieved, you wonder whether they would cope. In their early days, the band were pathologically publicity-shy. For a long time they wouldn't have their photographs taken, going so far as to stick pictures of their friends on their albums' sleeves, instead of their own. Murdoch avoided giving interviews, leaving the talking to other members of the band. "We didn't quite push away the limelight, as that suggests we weren't looking for it in the first place," he states. "But we weren't interested in that side of things either. There were other things to be getting on with. The band was developing, and for a lot of the time we were in a real mess." Does he feel like an outsider? "Yes � but then it's very easy to be on the outside where British music is concerned. If you're just yourself and you don't bow to the demands of the press and the music industry, then you're bound to be seen as an outsider." They're certainly a hard-working lot. They've made four albums in five years, as well as a handful of EPs, and there are any number of Belle and Sebastian side-projects � the Gentle Waves, Snow Patrol and V-Twin, to name just a few. The band were also the brains behind the Bowlie Weekender, the springtime festival held at Pontin's Holiday Camp in Camber Sands, which later spawned All Tomorrow's Parties. More recently, there's their somewhat controversial contribution to Todd Solondz's latest film, Storytelling. At the mention of Solondz, Murdoch becomes visibly irritated. "To tell you the truth, it almost isn't worth it, what we did. We had lots of ideas, and Todd used very little at the end. I know he was having a really hard time finishing the film, but it was very disappointing for us. I'd really think hard about getting involved in something like that again." Murdoch's musical aspirations arrived late in life. Whereas most musicians spend their adolescence listening to John Peel in their bedrooms, Murdoch preferred being outdoors and, for a while, harboured dreams of being a runner. In the end, he says, he just wasn't good enough. After school, he tried a variety of jobs: as a caretaker, a farm-hand and � this one's hard to imagine � a barman at Butlins. He didn't even start writing songs until he was 23. Murdoch and Stuart David, the band's bass-player, met on a youth opportunity scheme. "It was something the Tories cooked up to get you off the unemployed list," recalls Murdoch. "We were learning to be musical engineers or something like that." The pair then moved on to do a media business course at Glasgow's Stow college, set up by the part-time producer Alan Rankine. Every year he helped a group of students to make a record, usually a single, and put it out on the college label, Electric Honey. On recognising Murdoch and David's talent, he made an exception and allowed them to make a whole album. "We had to do it quickly," Murdoch remembers. "In three months we had to get a full band together and make a proper record. We ended up recording it in just a few days. Obviously, we had luck on our side." That record was Tigermilk. A thousand copies were released at the time � original copies now change hands for up to �400 � though, two years ago, because of popular demand, the record was re-released. It was with "3.. 6.. 9.. Seconds of Light", the third in a trio of EPs released in 1997, that Belle and Sebastian finally troubled the charts, albeit at No 31. Greater success came with their 1998 album The Boy with the Arab Strap, which reached No 12. Just last year they played on Top of the Pops and performed a show at the Albert Hall. Those are landmark events in the lives of most bands, although Murdoch, as usual, is underwhelmed. Then, of course, there was the notorious Brit award. Belle and Sebastian bagged the best newcomer prize in 1998, to the outrage of the other nominees. Rumour has it that Pete Waterman, the man behind Steps, called for a re-count. "I didn't pay much attention," says Murdoch. "I certainly didn't know what a big deal it was until after we had got it. But I remember, we were recording in the studio the day after. All these television crews were coming in and out � the BBC, ITV, the lot. After we'd finished in the studio we bought a newspaper. Suddenly we were front-page news in the tabloids � one of them said "Scots Band Cheat At Brits" or something like that. At first we were really angry but later we saw the funny side." Then he adds, with a sly smile: "Let's face it, it's probably the first and last time we'll ever be on the front page of a newspaper." 'I'm Waking up to Us' is out now on Jeepster. Belle and Sebastian appear tonight on 'Later... with Jools Holland' at 11.35pm (BBC 2). The band play Queen Margaret Union, Glasgow University, on 20 December and Mandela Hall, Belfast, on 21 December http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=107508 ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 21:05:11 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch interview Message-ID: <20011130210511.58632.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Belle and Sebastian: Scots of the arch antics Forget Travis: Belle and Sebastian are your real sensitive indie band - they just aren't quite as famous. As Stuart Murdoch tells Fiona Sturges, it wasn't all about the limelight 30 November 2001 When Belle and Sebastian released their first album, Tigermilk, in 1996, Travis were still trawling London's toilet venues, Coldplay were at university and Starsailor didn't exist. Since then, sad, sensitive bands have become hard to avoid. Yet Belle and Sebastian, who are probably the saddest and most sensitive of them all, have yet to reach the dizzying commercial heights of their peers. I meet Stuart Murdoch, the band's singer and chief songwriter, fresh off the plane from Japan, where they've been on tour. When I say "fresh", I mean just that. Tidily dressed in a black polo neck, he looks unfeasibly alert. He's full of stories from Japan � about how he stood in the street during an earth tremor, watching people go about their business as if nothing was happening, and how, with true Japanese hospitality, the band were treated like kings. He's a serious-minded and circumspect individual � he doesn't laugh much � but he's still good company. When I ask if he feels Belle and Sebastian have anything in common with Travis and Coldplay, he replies: "Well, we all have a crack at a tune." He pauses for a while, then continues: "I feel very lucky; I'm quite happy with my group. In fact right at this minute I've never been happier and I think we'll give them all a run for their money now. We'll give anybody a run for their money with the way we're playing." You have to admire his optimism. The fact is that Belle and Sebastian have always been better, avoiding the empty emoting and formal rock structures of Travis in favour of a more subtle and pastoral sound. Songs such as "Fox in the Snow" and "The Boy with the Arab Strap" set flutes and shimmering strings alongside Murdoch's fragile vocals and splashes of acoustic guitar. The band, who come from Glasgow, have eight members, none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian. When they go on tour, the numbers can reach 13 with the extra fiddlers and flautists. Murdoch is brimming with confidence about their live performances: "Playing live's been a bit of a pain in the past. I know we've sounded awful. But we're very organised now. We're learning all the time, but it's going like a dream." Still, it seems the recording process hasn't become any easier. Murdoch says he came "close to a nervous breakdown" last year while trying to finish their fourth album, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant. The recording of their latest single, "I'm Waking up to Us" � a fabulously embittered song about a dissolving relationship � didn't exactly go off without a hitch either. They hired Mike Hurst, whose previous credits include Petula Clark and Cat Stevens, as producer. "He's a great guy but he didn't deliver the finished product," Murdoch explains. "We had to work very hard afterwards to polish it up. We really need a catalyst, someone who can harness the creative chaos of the group. I suppose we're dreaming of a George Martin figure, but it's not going to happen." If Belle and Sebastian were ever to reach the levels of fame that Travis have achieved, you wonder whether they would cope. In their early days, the band were pathologically publicity-shy. For a long time they wouldn't have their photographs taken, going so far as to stick pictures of their friends on their albums' sleeves, instead of their own. Murdoch avoided giving interviews, leaving the talking to other members of the band. "We didn't quite push away the limelight, as that suggests we weren't looking for it in the first place," he states. "But we weren't interested in that side of things either. There were other things to be getting on with. The band was developing, and for a lot of the time we were in a real mess." Does he feel like an outsider? "Yes � but then it's very easy to be on the outside where British music is concerned. If you're just yourself and you don't bow to the demands of the press and the music industry, then you're bound to be seen as an outsider." They're certainly a hard-working lot. They've made four albums in five years, as well as a handful of EPs, and there are any number of Belle and Sebastian side-projects � the Gentle Waves, Snow Patrol and V-Twin, to name just a few. The band were also the brains behind the Bowlie Weekender, the springtime festival held at Pontin's Holiday Camp in Camber Sands, which later spawned All Tomorrow's Parties. More recently, there's their somewhat controversial contribution to Todd Solondz's latest film, Storytelling. At the mention of Solondz, Murdoch becomes visibly irritated. "To tell you the truth, it almost isn't worth it, what we did. We had lots of ideas, and Todd used very little at the end. I know he was having a really hard time finishing the film, but it was very disappointing for us. I'd really think hard about getting involved in something like that again." Murdoch's musical aspirations arrived late in life. Whereas most musicians spend their adolescence listening to John Peel in their bedrooms, Murdoch preferred being outdoors and, for a while, harboured dreams of being a runner. In the end, he says, he just wasn't good enough. After school, he tried a variety of jobs: as a caretaker, a farm-hand and � this one's hard to imagine � a barman at Butlins. He didn't even start writing songs until he was 23. Murdoch and Stuart David, the band's bass-player, met on a youth opportunity scheme. "It was something the Tories cooked up to get you off the unemployed list," recalls Murdoch. "We were learning to be musical engineers or something like that." The pair then moved on to do a media business course at Glasgow's Stow college, set up by the part-time producer Alan Rankine. Every year he helped a group of students to make a record, usually a single, and put it out on the college label, Electric Honey. On recognising Murdoch and David's talent, he made an exception and allowed them to make a whole album. "We had to do it quickly," Murdoch remembers. "In three months we had to get a full band together and make a proper record. We ended up recording it in just a few days. Obviously, we had luck on our side." That record was Tigermilk. A thousand copies were released at the time � original copies now change hands for up to �400 � though, two years ago, because of popular demand, the record was re-released. It was with "3.. 6.. 9.. Seconds of Light", the third in a trio of EPs released in 1997, that Belle and Sebastian finally troubled the charts, albeit at No 31. Greater success came with their 1998 album The Boy with the Arab Strap, which reached No 12. Just last year they played on Top of the Pops and performed a show at the Albert Hall. Those are landmark events in the lives of most bands, although Murdoch, as usual, is underwhelmed. Then, of course, there was the notorious Brit award. Belle and Sebastian bagged the best newcomer prize in 1998, to the outrage of the other nominees. Rumour has it that Pete Waterman, the man behind Steps, called for a re-count. "I didn't pay much attention," says Murdoch. "I certainly didn't know what a big deal it was until after we had got it. But I remember, we were recording in the studio the day after. All these television crews were coming in and out � the BBC, ITV, the lot. After we'd finished in the studio we bought a newspaper. Suddenly we were front-page news in the tabloids � one of them said "Scots Band Cheat At Brits" or something like that. At first we were really angry but later we saw the funny side." Then he adds, with a sly smile: "Let's face it, it's probably the first and last time we'll ever be on the front page of a newspaper." 'I'm Waking up to Us' is out now on Jeepster. Belle and Sebastian appear tonight on 'Later... with Jools Holland' at 11.35pm (BBC 2). The band play Queen Margaret Union, Glasgow University, on 20 December and Mandela Hall, Belfast, on 21 December http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=107508 ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Nov 30 21:07:46 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:07:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch interview Message-ID: <20011130210746.16142.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> for anyone who couldn't get a copy, its on the web... cheers, idles *************************************************** Belle and Sebastian: Scots of the arch antics Forget Travis: Belle and Sebastian are your real sensitive indie band - they just aren't quite as famous. As Stuart Murdoch tells Fiona Sturges, it wasn't all about the limelight 30 November 2001 When Belle and Sebastian released their first album, Tigermilk, in 1996, Travis were still trawling London's toilet venues, Coldplay were at university and Starsailor didn't exist. Since then, sad, sensitive bands have become hard to avoid. Yet Belle and Sebastian, who are probably the saddest and most sensitive of them all, have yet to reach the dizzying commercial heights of their peers. I meet Stuart Murdoch, the band's singer and chief songwriter, fresh off the plane from Japan, where they've been on tour. When I say "fresh", I mean just that. Tidily dressed in a black polo neck, he looks unfeasibly alert. He's full of stories from Japan � about how he stood in the street during an earth tremor, watching people go about their business as if nothing was happening, and how, with true Japanese hospitality, the band were treated like kings. He's a serious-minded and circumspect individual � he doesn't laugh much � but he's still good company. When I ask if he feels Belle and Sebastian have anything in common with Travis and Coldplay, he replies: "Well, we all have a crack at a tune." He pauses for a while, then continues: "I feel very lucky; I'm quite happy with my group. In fact right at this minute I've never been happier and I think we'll give them all a run for their money now. We'll give anybody a run for their money with the way we're playing." You have to admire his optimism. The fact is that Belle and Sebastian have always been better, avoiding the empty emoting and formal rock structures of Travis in favour of a more subtle and pastoral sound. Songs such as "Fox in the Snow" and "The Boy with the Arab Strap" set flutes and shimmering strings alongside Murdoch's fragile vocals and splashes of acoustic guitar. The band, who come from Glasgow, have eight members, none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian. When they go on tour, the numbers can reach 13 with the extra fiddlers and flautists. Murdoch is brimming with confidence about their live performances: "Playing live's been a bit of a pain in the past. I know we've sounded awful. But we're very organised now. We're learning all the time, but it's going like a dream." Still, it seems the recording process hasn't become any easier. Murdoch says he came "close to a nervous breakdown" last year while trying to finish their fourth album, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant. The recording of their latest single, "I'm Waking up to Us" � a fabulously embittered song about a dissolving relationship � didn't exactly go off without a hitch either. They hired Mike Hurst, whose previous credits include Petula Clark and Cat Stevens, as producer. "He's a great guy but he didn't deliver the finished product," Murdoch explains. "We had to work very hard afterwards to polish it up. We really need a catalyst, someone who can harness the creative chaos of the group. I suppose we're dreaming of a George Martin figure, but it's not going to happen." If Belle and Sebastian were ever to reach the levels of fame that Travis have achieved, you wonder whether they would cope. In their early days, the band were pathologically publicity-shy. For a long time they wouldn't have their photographs taken, going so far as to stick pictures of their friends on their albums' sleeves, instead of their own. Murdoch avoided giving interviews, leaving the talking to other members of the band. "We didn't quite push away the limelight, as that suggests we weren't looking for it in the first place," he states. "But we weren't interested in that side of things either. There were other things to be getting on with. The band was developing, and for a lot of the time we were in a real mess." Does he feel like an outsider? "Yes � but then it's very easy to be on the outside where British music is concerned. If you're just yourself and you don't bow to the demands of the press and the music industry, then you're bound to be seen as an outsider." They're certainly a hard-working lot. They've made four albums in five years, as well as a handful of EPs, and there are any number of Belle and Sebastian side-projects � the Gentle Waves, Snow Patrol and V-Twin, to name just a few. The band were also the brains behind the Bowlie Weekender, the springtime festival held at Pontin's Holiday Camp in Camber Sands, which later spawned All Tomorrow's Parties. More recently, there's their somewhat controversial contribution to Todd Solondz's latest film, Storytelling. At the mention of Solondz, Murdoch becomes visibly irritated. "To tell you the truth, it almost isn't worth it, what we did. We had lots of ideas, and Todd used very little at the end. I know he was having a really hard time finishing the film, but it was very disappointing for us. I'd really think hard about getting involved in something like that again." Murdoch's musical aspirations arrived late in life. Whereas most musicians spend their adolescence listening to John Peel in their bedrooms, Murdoch preferred being outdoors and, for a while, harboured dreams of being a runner. In the end, he says, he just wasn't good enough. After school, he tried a variety of jobs: as a caretaker, a farm-hand and � this one's hard to imagine � a barman at Butlins. He didn't even start writing songs until he was 23. Murdoch and Stuart David, the band's bass-player, met on a youth opportunity scheme. "It was something the Tories cooked up to get you off the unemployed list," recalls Murdoch. "We were learning to be musical engineers or something like that." The pair then moved on to do a media business course at Glasgow's Stow college, set up by the part-time producer Alan Rankine. Every year he helped a group of students to make a record, usually a single, and put it out on the college label, Electric Honey. On recognising Murdoch and David's talent, he made an exception and allowed them to make a whole album. "We had to do it quickly," Murdoch remembers. "In three months we had to get a full band together and make a proper record. We ended up recording it in just a few days. Obviously, we had luck on our side." That record was Tigermilk. A thousand copies were released at the time � original copies now change hands for up to �400 � though, two years ago, because of popular demand, the record was re-released. It was with "3.. 6.. 9.. Seconds of Light", the third in a trio of EPs released in 1997, that Belle and Sebastian finally troubled the charts, albeit at No 31. Greater success came with their 1998 album The Boy with the Arab Strap, which reached No 12. Just last year they played on Top of the Pops and performed a show at the Albert Hall. Those are landmark events in the lives of most bands, although Murdoch, as usual, is underwhelmed. Then, of course, there was the notorious Brit award. Belle and Sebastian bagged the best newcomer prize in 1998, to the outrage of the other nominees. Rumour has it that Pete Waterman, the man behind Steps, called for a re-count. "I didn't pay much attention," says Murdoch. "I certainly didn't know what a big deal it was until after we had got it. But I remember, we were recording in the studio the day after. All these television crews were coming in and out � the BBC, ITV, the lot. After we'd finished in the studio we bought a newspaper. Suddenly we were front-page news in the tabloids � one of them said "Scots Band Cheat At Brits" or something like that. At first we were really angry but later we saw the funny side." Then he adds, with a sly smile: "Let's face it, it's probably the first and last time we'll ever be on the front page of a newspaper." 'I'm Waking up to Us' is out now on Jeepster. Belle and Sebastian appear tonight on 'Later... with Jools Holland' at 11.35pm (BBC 2). The band play Queen Margaret Union, Glasgow University, on 20 December and Mandela Hall, Belfast, on 21 December http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=107508 ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+