From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 01:29:29 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you made me forget my dreams... Message-ID: <20011001002929.97308.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister! This morning I woke up knowing that another girl is asleep in my boyfriend's bed next to him. And it's my birthday... I am trying to not be "the girl" about it, you know? Jealous and suspicious...but i think I have a right to be. This said girl asleep next to the boyfriend is actually his ex girlfriend. They are good friends. I can't deny him that. She's been here since Friday and I haven't met her. Part of me wants to, but part of me doesn't. Maybe I give him too much power over me. He is very young, only 18. He is going through an intense art school and it's his first time at college and living on his own. He keeps me at arm's length a lot because he is afraid of falling in love and being distracted from his work. My mind is telling me that I'm an idiot and I shouldn't have gotten this far into it. My heart is telling me that he's special and I just need to be patient. And then my mind scolds my heart for being so naive and that there is NO WAY this is going to work out. See, the thing is, if I were 18 too, I would be FLIPPED OUT over this ex girlfriend thing. I would be HATING HIM. How dare he allow her to come to visit over MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND!!! But now that I'm in my mid-twenties, I see that he has no control over these things. Especially because he's 18. I think I am learning, the hard way, the process of the male mind. And he tells me that I always know what he's thinking, that I can see down to the core of him. It bothers him. It bothers me today because if I truly know what he's thinking then this situation with his ex girlfriend is not as innocent as it seems. I think he wants something to happen between them. We're supposed to see Ivy play tonight. He *forgot* and made plans to meet with his cousin about a project they're working on. He changed his meeting with his cousin, but GOD, he didn't even have it on his mind that it is my birthday and we made plans for this 2 months ago! Now he's saying he'll bring his friend along. I told him that he doesn't have to go with me. But he says he wants to, but I told him to call me when he figures it out. And so far, no call. I think I'd rather go alone. I don't want it to be tense and be this THING and I'm a little bit afraid I might act like a big bitch. It's just so weird to think that less than a month ago, everything was good, we danced onstage with Belle & Sebastian together! I felt like we were...I dunno...grate together. Even Stuart noticed. This is a wake up call for me. it's not easy to admit when something that you want to work out so badly is just not going to. THIS IS MY WEEKEND DAMNIT!!!! Last night as I drove up Highland Ave in Hollywood, on my way home from a club that I went to by myself, I decided that I will go to this show tonight by myself as well. Colin in Lexington is brave enough to move to Chicago by himself, so I can certainly go out on my own. Besides, if I don't get out there I'll never meet any nice boys... It just reminds me of a Morrissey line "You are repressed, but you're remarkably dressed" and I will be smartly dressed, after all. so... That's my story. I know this is long, but I just have a couple other things to talk about. here's something I like to call **************DIDN'T CHU KNOW************** It's better to have loved and lost, then never to have loved Red Bull... And in !Viva Rachels! news, Rachel Sunset, who I will aptly call Rachel Sunny Side Up in accordance with our breakfast theme, has just announced that she is in fact a sinister spy. That would explain why she has used the name Rachel, she thought she's just slip right into the ranks...and a fine plan it was... There are 5 of us now? I think we have enough Rachels to challenge the list Williams to a "battle of Wills". What that entails is another matter altogether. Maybe some other Rachel or William listees have some ideas? Or any non-rachel or non-william listees, feel free to give us suggestions! What do you think Rachels Cornflake, Grape-nut (hey Rachel Grape, please e-mail me!), Archel Toast, Rachel Sunny Side Up? Did I miss anyone? I'd like to tell Will, JenOwl, Kirsten and Astrid that your posts are...well, grate. I really enjoyed them, so thank you. The Boy Colin sent me the most adorable presents and a mix cd that is superb. He is a sweetheart. I'm so lucky to have friends like him and all the rest of you sinisterines!! (that means you, too, Elise!) And one more thing. I think we've sort of passed over the fact that Belle & Sebastian did a cover of BILLIE JEAN!!!! Where was that? Seattle? WHY do they rock my world so!!!? I wish I could have seen and heard that. I'm off to get smartly dressed for the Ivy show... Love to all of you, Rachel the Crazy Smartly Dressed Fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wisner at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 01:53:02 2001 From: wisner at xxx.com (William Dell Wisner) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:53:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: you made me forget my dreams... In-Reply-To: <20011001002929.97308.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > And one more thing. I think we've sort of passed over the fact that > Belle & Sebastian did a cover of BILLIE JEAN!!!! Where was that? > Seattle? WHY do they rock my world so!!!? I wish I could have seen > and heard that. That was the second San Francisco show and, oh, yes, it did indeed rock most astoundingly. However, we did get robbed! A set list retrieved after the show confirmed that one slot was assigned to "Dog On Wheels -or- I Love My Car" and, well, we got the sort of wheels that go woof rather than vroom. Not that I'm complaining. Saying anything bad about that show would be churlish and ungrateful. Come to think of it, that persistent loud bzzzzzzzzzzzt from the left-hand speaker stack was pretty annoying. w., the churlish and ungrateful +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jenc_is_here at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 04:25:45 2001 From: jenc_is_here at xxx.com (Jen *) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 03:25:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Labour Day and my first post Message-ID: Hello everybody out there. Yes, this is my first post. I have been lurking around the list for a while now, and have finally joined. And now I have writing privileges and it is all very exciting. The only problem is I am not quite sure what to write about � first I think maybe a bit about myself. My name is Jen, and I live in Australia. I am a Uni student with one year of my degree to go, and I live in a nice little house with three friends and we have some fun now and then. That�s about it really. Now I can�t think of anything spectacular to write, so instead I�ll talk about 5 things in my day today. 1. Today is a public holiday, Labour Day. This is a great thing, one of the many reasons of which is because it makes this week a four-day week. I love a good four-day week. I think every week should be four-day week, that would be grand indeed. 2. Today I watched �Rebel Without a Cause� as it was on TV in the middle of the night a couple of days ago, and I set the video timer. I had never seen it before. Unfortunately though I am not very good with the timer, and I cut quite a bit off the beginning. But I still enjoyed it, no beginning at all. 3. After this I read the paper. This is one of my favourite things, reading the paper come a Sunday. It didn�t matter that it was really Monday today because it felt like Sunday, with Labour Day and all. 4. I sat on the balcony in the sunshine, and in the air you can smell that summer is almost here. This is a very nice way to spend time. 5. I left a bag of groceries at the shops, but when I came back the girl at the checkout who is always super fast scanning items had saved them for me, so it all turned out fine and I came home and cooked spaghetti. So that was my Labour day and this is my first post. Nice to meet you all. Cheers, Jen. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 05:12:56 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:12:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i drive a dodge neon...cuz it's good for my...voice Message-ID: fall has...fallen. it's always seemed to me that fall 'springs' much more than spring does. spring takes its sweet time in arriving. summer floats by, and then you wake up one morning to find frost on the ground and an angry mob of scary geese hissing at each other and doing their dirty business all over your backyard. i suppose i should be used to surprises by now. but autumn really got me this year. i have an old beer crate full of oil paints and mix-tapes and dozens of jars of paper cement from the days when i used to find great enjoyment in gluing objects to one another. i found a cd in the bottom of the crate and decided to give it a listen. it was music by some boys i used to know. some boys who used to be a band. a pretty decent one, too. i used to date one of them, for a short time. i remember him coming over and strumming my guitar while i cleaned my room, or writing silly magnetic poems on my refrigerator while i sat at the table doing crossword puzzles. we watched a lot of movies and we drank a lot of wine. i don't think we did much else. i started thinking about him, and about my old friends who used to come over last winter, all bundled up in their ugly coats and scarves and thick woolen mittens. i thought of emily, who would show up with wine and paint markers, and how we would spread paper all over the living room floor and scrawl fantastically long poems that stretched from the fireplace to the sofa. we had great plans, to go to marrakesh, to drink mimosas every morning in the student union, and to open a record shop called "the bum and the fish." and i thought of kevin, who would cook fabulous vegetarian dinners in my shabby little kitchen, and who once gave me a lovely book about mice as a christmas gift. emily and kevin fell in love, and i don't see them anymore. i don't have any pictures of them. i do have three photographs from a night at the teahouse when i initiated a 'public restroom photography contest.' we each got to take one photo. emily threw a roll of toilet paper and caught it flying into the wall. keving shot the split part of the seat in the front, which we had all previously decided was by far the filthiest part of any toilet anywhere. i just stuck the camera into the bowl with one hand and pressed the button. i was declared the winner, but then all of the photos are crap, so that's not saying much. i thought about all of these things and then i went out for coffee, and found myself wishing that i still lived in that overpriced flat in the old stucco house with the big dead pine tree grown flat against it. i missed the noisy poker-playing boys who lived upstairs and who used to go sledding on their sofa cushions. i missed waking up with strange bruises obtained by drunkenly attempting to skateboard in my dining room. and, strangely enough, i rather missed living on canned corn and saltine crackers. i don't know what any of this has to do with anything. i guess i just wish it could be last winter again, and i could be huddled on the sofa, skipping class and watching the news because it was fun to giggle at the reporters praising a pretty lady named edith who was celebrating her 102nd birthday, and at the "photo of the day," which was usually a snapshot some knob had taken of his dog wearing sunglasses. i have no idea where i'll be a year from now, but i only hope i won't be moping about wishing it was...erm...now, i guess. that sounded silly. but i remember last year, and i remember thinking "one year from now, things will be grand." i told that to emily once, and she pointed out that "grand" was "phony." before kevin, i think that emily was in love with holden caufield. before emily, kevin was in love with a different girl. i love canned corn and black coffee and white tea and the big lebowski and all of you, and when i was in kindergarten i once confessed my undying love to a little blonde boy named matthew, but it wasn't until years later that i was able to shamefully admit to myself that i only loved him because i thought he might grow up to look like the brave ascot-wearing boy from scooby-doo, who just might be the real love of my life. kirsten Care2 make the world greener! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 19:32:37 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:32:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: brighton belle Message-ID: <002201c14aa7$94a94680$8727073e@aqlzosqt> i nearly posted on saturday night when i got home from a night of b52s and latin jazz, drunk and extremely happy in a sickening, hippyish, 'i've just walked home through the silence of a beautiful starry night in the city i love best with only the b&s tunes in my head for company' kind of way. so count yourselves lucky that i've had a whole rainy sunday to sober, and toughen, up again. i'll leave the tender touch to dimitra, astrid and will, who do it so much better. yesterday i had to negotiate police lines to get to my favourite restaurant. there were about 4000 protesters outside the conference centre and elsewhere, and about 5000 armed police... some very good (if utterly utterly pointless) speeches were made about why we shouldn't go to war, but i found it a bit annoying the way every grievance and agenda was crowbarred into the protest. i'm sure we're all very upset that baby seals are being clubbed, but... i have listened to dead media now, and can imagine the studio conversation going something like, 'hey guys, we've written all these cynical, bittersweet rock songs like we normally do, but you know what? those daft punk chaps are doing terribly well, why don't we play around on this equipment and see if we can sound like them'. cheers darren. i say lock them in a garage with nothing but some saucepan lids and a banjo. i've been reading ghost world. it's very good, and reminds me a bit of jenowl (sorry if that's a bad thing.) can't wait to see the film, especially as steve buscemi's in it. i'm going off to convert a japanese oasis fan to belle and sebastian now. wish me luck... luv archel toast (although today i've been mostly archel bagel) *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Mon Oct 1 12:39:52 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:39:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Vacuuming completely nude in paradise Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F69@PIKACHU> I saw a fox at the end of our garden the other day. It wasn't snowing though. My faith in humanity has been partly restored. Last week when I was in our local supermarket, the girl in front of me in the queue at the tills was having trouble paying - her debit card wouldn't swipe through properly. She said it was because her dog had chewed it a bit when it arrived through the post. So the girl behind the till had to type the card number into the machine instead, but she couldn't work out how to do it. Just when she was about to call the supervisor over for help, the middle-aged woman behind me in the queue said "It's OK, put it on my card, I'll pay". They'd never met each other before, she was just being really kind. I had a strange dream last night. It had a girl and a horse in it. She might have been called Judy. I've decided that "The Boy Done Wrong Again" is currently my least favourite B&S song. Not because it's bad; it's just inconsequential. At least other less-popular songs like Beyond The Sunrise and Electronic Renaissance provoke some sort of reaction in people, good or bad. There are too many things in this world which are just pointless. If they went away, life wouldn't get better, and it wouldn't get worse; noone would notice. Things which, if they didn't already exist, noone would bother inventing. Things like mime artists; hovercraft; car bumper stickers; neck-ties; paper doilies; Dr Pepper; the music of the Bluetones; the careers of Lionel Blair and Les Dennis; steak and kidney pie; synchronised swimming and rythmic gymnastics; Family Fortunes; and the countries of Paraguay, Chad and Laos. If you were told you could never eat another courgette in your life, would you care? A fortnight ago I went to Alton Towers, where there are lots of great rollercoaster rides. Props to David Moore (CUK) for getting the word "pulchritudinous" into his post. I think I'm going to have to start making up long words and putting them in my posts to make me sound like an intellectual. That would be mesoenterlogicinal. I saw some other people yesterday. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 12:48:21 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Randomnessess Message-ID: <20011001114821.D74DD2757@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From paulinel_s at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 13:38:33 2001 From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 05:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sophisticated Boom Boom Message-ID: <20011001123833.30089.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com> Oh this is so frustrating!! I keep telling Latti to get out of her room and drive around in my car but she says that autumn's got to her and she was so low etc etc! when will girls know? I know you've missed me, haven't you? You had no other choise anyway. So how are you all my sinister twee bunnies? all hopping and shagging around? because you know what they're saying about bunnies and rubbits don't you? they shag more than any other animal on the planet!! and yes twee might be the hippy of our years, but were hippies shagging a lot or they were just fat words and no action? I tend to believe the latter; and anyway they must have been really stoned to shag! I don't want to comment on the things happening in the world lately... I think that if I do I'll most probably get lynched like a medieval witch or something! No, I don't think the lot of you would share my points of view; but it's demo(n)cracy isn't it? and we're all allowed to say our opinion out loud, right? Still, I think I should keep my opinions to myself because I'm sure that demo(n)cracy works only for the small "majority"! and I'm saying *small* because it is small after all, if you see the election percentages etc! Ok enough with politics! I'll give you my latest now! nothing as destructive or loud as the WTC bombing though! I've met someone! oh yes! and is he cute? he's the cutest! blue/grey eyes, pale skin, black hair, tall and thin and his taste in clothes and music? impecable! Actually I knew him before, I knew him for more than ten years but even though he was the only bloke i fell in love with at the very first sight, something was always going wrong and we couldn't get together! but this all's changed now! so I spent 4 days in a palazzio in Venice with him doing that thing that hippies were too fucked up to do! oops! I said the *F* word!! sorry, but you know! and is he a good lover? he's the best! gifted and imaginative! the ultimate combination! So, I'm off to London this weekend as that's where his house is to see him and well, you know! he comes from an aristocratic family of course and he looks like a russian prince! or a celtic prince! a prince nonetheless... Aunt Myrtles approves of my affair, can you believe that? this is a total anti-aphrodisiac for me and my prince, mind! We have to think about ways to make big aunt Turtles dislike him! Oh I love doing the *F* thing! No you naughty creatures, I didn't mean that! I meant the *F* as in Forbidden! I love it when aunt Turtles is shocked at my behaviour! Oh the things we invent us poor aristocrats to kill some time and entertain ourselves! But I won't start feeling pitty for myself now! that's a working class privilege unfortunately! I was telling my little cousin Violette about him and she kept blushing and blushing! you see I was a bit over graphic for my poor Violette's tender demure ears! but I'm sure she enjoyed it nevertheless. Cheeky Violette! You know after every sinister post I send I print it and give it to Violette and Latti to read it. Latti's always cool about it saying "go girl, go!" or something like that, but Violette is pouting and complains a bit; then she smiles and says that i'll turn our whole family into a soap opera one of these days! I might as well. So what other exciting stuff have been happening in my life besides lovers, bombs and trips to Italy? Oh yes!! Clothes!! Have you seen the new Anne Demeulemester designs?? they're divine! I'm not into this 80s fashion revival myself, I think it's a bit loud and bad taste to say the least, but I do like the laces and the leather and the horse-riding style that seems to be the strongest trend for winter! oh and cord's in fashion this year! so you won't be the only ones in those brown old pairs of cords! Of course the only cord I'll be wearing is this Vivian Westwood long cord plaid skirt! Oh shopping!!! talking about it I've just remembered! I need to buy some nice underwear! And champagne! so before I go to London I'm setting off to Paris for a couple of days with Latti and Violette for shopping! have you ever had pink champagne? it's the nectar of the gods! it is! and unlike aunt Myrtles' approval a great aphrodisiac! But what should I wear for my trip to London? I mean, I'm always having trouble figuring out what to wear when I'm flying somewhere! I think my nice horse-riding black velvet jacket, a white shirt with a tie and my vivien westwood cord skirt will do! How is the weather in London by the way? cold I reckon! and underwear? underwear must always come to a contrast with your outwear so I'll wear lace in champagne colour; a silk corset and stockings! Yes! OK I must go now and pack! Take care and be glamorous! and if you can't, well, don't slap yourself, after all, style is inherited! Pauline L. Shivers that makes sinister all quivers she's that aristocratic slag who lives and reigns in Prague PS: I would like to send my greetings and my apologies to my dearest Frederic Meysonnet, marquis de Buisante, as I haven't replied to his last email. I'm truly sorry Frederic mon ch�r but I've been so very very busy! PS(2): there have been a couple over-sentimental posts to the list lately! do you know what they say? when you whisper people pay more attention to what you're saying? it's the same with sentimentalism! take it easy dears! we do like you even without these tear-soaked stories you know! you're making no point even if you have one by being so... anyway, I won't say it! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 14:07:04 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:07:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sad sickness - being differents fine but you go all the way to being weird Message-ID: Hello lovelies, Does everyone seem to be really sad and lonenly recently or is it just me? It kinda scares me one minute everyone was happy and then suddenly they just all got sad and lonely.I think theres some sort of sad virus going around or as Dimitra said maybe it's just the weather making people want love more tangible, i know it makes me feel that way. All my nice non-sinister friends are all sad and my bestest friend in the whole world is really dejected because he has women trouble and i can't help him because i'm really sad too and have women trouble so i just hand him my big bottle of vodka and then put on Belle and Sebastian or the smiths and that makes it okay for a little while until bedtime, where i just lie and think about the futility of it all and i can't sleep unless i play really soothing music. Im sad partly because im lonely but a big part is because i've realised that people refuse to accept me for who i am, i think my friends are too normal, maybe, but that sounds really horrible.I had a massive argument with my friend-girl because i wear my emotions on my sleeve and i tried to explain to her that i didn't know how to live differently and i didn't want to but she couldn't accept that someone would want to be totally honest in showing their emotions. Allegedly living according to your heart rather than your head makes you weak and she believes that everyone should just hide all their feelings,i can't understand that at all. I sometimes think it might be grate to be normal and shallow because then i could be content and could get all excited about special offers on lager at the local superstore and about a new pub opening or even just a party and i would never be sad or lonely because i wouldn't even know what those feelings were. When im sad i sometimes think that creativity, intelligence and individuality are curses and i know that's wrong but normal people always seem to be so happy,it's frightening. Im sorry i wasn't funny, i think thats two in a row now. :) Hot Choccy and Kuhluas, Danny xxxxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 1 15:53:27 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:53:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oh happy day! Message-ID: <3BB87557.7D3919BD@camb.linst.ac.uk> WWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! I have just been invited back onto sinister and it feels fab. Once again i can waste many a precious hour writing belle and sebastian related rubbish. Of late i have been pondering on the word "sinister", it's a a rather ambiguous word, don't you think? I can understand someone, something or an action being sinister but what is it like to feel sinister? Is it like when things happen to you that you don't understand, like a milk bottle flying across the room and spilling out green slime, or is it like that cheeky feeling you get when you want to do something evil to someone? Answers on a postcard..............No, really i'd like to know what you think. In response to Big Stu's post about things that people don't reaaly need and that could easily drift away unnoticed, well, i say it's because of all these MOR things that the good stuff shines through, and if everything was fabtastic, there would still be stuff that wasn't quite as great, that's not a jibe at you i just felt like talking some good honest rubbish for my first post back. hannah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 16:06:53 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:06:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I spent a weekend wasted part 1 Message-ID: <001301c14a8a$b5a4c020$8df2bdac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I went to Nottingham for the weekend, it was full of mixed emotions, commotions and drinks promotions. Got to the train station at 6pm after work, and after some idiots at the ticket office who took 15 mins to buy a frigging ticket, I missed my train by 10 seconds. The journey then started half an hour later which went from Milton Keynes to Birmingham then to Nottingham, and took 5 hours! A coach journey would have taken just 1 hour. Got to my friend's house at 11pm, said to myself "I need a drink!" My friend presented a bottle of tequila, also, earlier for dinner he made himself some dodgy scrambled eggs, and got a stomach ache, and couldn't drink anymore of the tequila after two shots. 2 hours later, the tequila bottle was empty. I woke up the next morning, in a strange room that I've never seen before (It's my friend's new house in Nottingham), and I remembered drinking tequila.. the word "shit" flashed before my eyes. Ran downstairs "check for vomit stains, check for vomit stains...", couldn't find any, phew! Went back upstairs, found a bucket with um, stuff in it. My friend filled me in on what happened the night before, apparently I was so drunk I couldn't walk, let alone talk. That's the curse of tequila, and it sets an ironic omen for the rest of the weekend. Sat morning, feeling well ill, so ate some rather hot chilli noodles to wake me up, the chilli fought with the alcohol for about 15 minutes, which made my head spin, but I was more awake afterwards, bumped into 2 people in my old Uni, which was great it made me feel like I have loads of friends. Met up with another friend, we went to the pub, testing the theory "booze is the best hangover cure". The first pint at the pub was painful, but after that I felt sooooo great, arranged to meet another friend about 8 o'clock. There is a very nice art film cinema called Broadway in Nottingham, and I was recommended to watch "Possible Worlds" which was showing that day, so I went to Broadway, and found that I was 30 minutes too late. :-( So the drinking carried on til about 10:30pm, we planned to go to "Rock City" the rock club in Nottingham, then, the news broke to me. TERRORVISION one of my absolute favourite bands were playing their final tour before splitting up in Rock City that night, I got there just as they finished :-( When I got inside, they were still removing the set from the stage, it was a sight unbearable to watch, and so I spent the night drinking like a loon to drown my sorrows. I took revenge tho at the lucky bar stewards who saw the gig, cos, the downstairs of Rock City there is the "Classic rock" room, I went in there, and asked the DJ to play Bon Jovi living on a prayer, and then legged it back upstairs. HA HA HA HA Revenge is sweet. So yes, that night carried on til 4am. Woke up the next morning feeling like poo, did the ritual of eating chilli noodles again, and once again felt great afterwards. Then, after roaming the city a bit, it was time to travel to Leicester to meet Miss Madeleine McNeil. ... to be continued Tequilas and Red Bull (eek) Ken P.S.: I have drunk whisky and red bull before, it's not really as good as vodka and red bull, esp with whisky being one of my least favourite spirits. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 16:07:15 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:07:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I spent a weekend wasted part 2 Message-ID: <001601c14a8a$c4e70020$8df2bdac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> ... so yes. The train journey to Leicester was, thank God, painless this time, 45 mins straight there. Was about to type a sinister email about my weekend then (so far) in this weird shop in Leicester which is also an Internet Café, but I was halfway to finishing typing the email as the time run out, and I didn't save it. :-( (Basically it was similar to I spent a weekend wasted part 1). Then Madeleine said Hello, in a rather posh voice, we then begun the evening at a *posh* pub, but we rose to the occasion and talked as poshly as we could, in fact, we have out-poshed the posh people who were there who were talking about jazz. I was surprised at how classy we were, but that's what middle class upbringing does for ya innit. We then carried on drinking and talked about various things like how we out-indied indie by being so indie that we're not indie, and stuff, until about 9:30pm when it was about time to go home, when James also from Leicester phoned and we thought "shall we wait for him? Although we have to work tomorrow and stuff" That thought very quickly become "fook it, what drink shall we have?" So me and James and Madeleine drank vodka and red bull aplenty, aplenty as in drinking two glasses of it at once using 4 straws. Then, of course going full circle, we saw the "tequila - £1 a shot" offer, that made us happy. Then it was closing time and time to go home, said goodbye, and I went back to the train station. Then, the thought came to me, "hmmm I should check the train times", so I phoned up the train time enquiry office and basically what the guy told me was "heh heh you are not getting home tonight, mate" Great. Add this to the "Things that Ken missed by a matter of minutes" list of this weekend. Thank you Madeleine who let me stay at her palace, which was HUGE! It's not an exaggeration to say that it was about 500 acres, so me and James and Madeleine drank more before passing out. Woke up the next day feeling a bit ill, which makes a change. Had to phone into work sick, but I was in the city centre and I can't find anywhere that doesn't sound like a STREET! Eventually had to settle for calling from a quiet-ish WH Smith's and hope that no one noticed. Then James shown me the wonders of Leicester, before getting a COACH ticket back home, I was going to burn my return train ticket in anger, but I didn't have a lighter. Got back to Milton Keynes finally about 2 hours ago, feeling like an absolute drunken wreck, but what a great exciting weekend. I'm glad I am writing the post today rather than yesterday now. Mmmm, work tomorrow. Sleep deprivation and Red Bull Ken P.S.: My name is Ken and I was an alcoholic. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 1 16:23:26 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:23:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hmm...nme with this quote Message-ID: i found this at the bottom f a previous post +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ hmm im not in a bedroom *slaps stupid nme writers* oh yeah hallo this is my first proper post to sinister yay hugs to all im not living im just killing time +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Mon Oct 1 16:55:11 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:55:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Court Rectangular Message-ID: Notices from the Perfumed Palace of Princess Honey: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oxford, 28 Sept. Ms Liz Dapyln, (formerly?) of this parish, received her BA Fine Arts (Second Upper) from the University. Ms Daplyn, most famous for her lovely cakes and appearence on University Challenge, said "where's the pub??" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Glasgow, 29 Sept. Ms Ailsa Ross, of this parish, married Mr Neil Watson (honorary member of this parish), at the Glasgow University Chapel. The bride looked beautiful in a delightful dress i think i'd be better off leaving to Ms Alder or Ms Lander to describe ;). Those present included Mr & Mrs CarsmileSteve, the King of Partick, Calumn Shearer Esq (of Shearer's Sinister Hotels), Ms Carey Lander, J Breams of the Antipodes, RJ Gillander, YokoJo, Ms JL Alder and 96 Esq. A lovely day/evening/next morning was had by all. a spoke for the group said "where's the pub?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xoxo CarsmileSteve PS oh in glasgow we saw a wee rocking horse in a shop +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 18:09:43 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:09:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: no, chi-chi, no more bamboo... Message-ID: dear sinister, i had a relatively quiet weekend, moaning, girning, just being my usual weekend-self. except, i wasn�t quite as bad this time... the past two weekends i�ve spent having fun & stuff, going bowling, making a fool of myself, dancing, making a fool of myself, but with a smile on my face. most of saturday night i spent playing the guitar to the moon shining on the loch outside the window, thinking of the past few weekends & thinking happy thoughts� i found a bunch of people who are really grate, in the year below me. i always knew they were fab, but i couldn�t exactly go up to them & ask them to draw me a sheep. the year below me was blessed.. it has its neds, but about a quarter of the year are swell, which is a quarter more than all the previous 5th years in the 4 years or so. they�re so anti-clique, it�s quite funny. they might be *just a teen-c ween-c* bit cliquey, but then they�d slap themselves or something. oh, and one of them has Mr Bump on their folder *and* cringes at gold glitter �being okay� yeaay my mother�s knitting me a bumblebee scarf for winter.. i can�t wait! and on saturday, my darling sister bought a 1960 Beetle!! i never did understand her mini-obsession towards them, until i saw her with it yesterday.. i�ve been dreading the fact in four months that i�ll be able to learn to drive, but i�ve just seen the most gorgeous car ever (the only bit of rust i could see was actually bird-poo), finally giving me some incentive to not just stop in the middle of the road and cry on the steering wheel.. it�s got the coolest wee indicators, that stick out the side of the car like flapping ears och well, i�d best go.. take care johnjohn x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 18:51:50 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:21:50 +0930 Subject: Sinister: absinth makes the heart grow fonder Message-ID: My Treasures: Last week, I was sitting at my desk, doing some work and listening to �The Fox in the Snow�. This, in itself, is not a particularly unusual thing, and certainly not post-worthy, by any stretch of even the most fevered imagination. The thing is, though, that my desk is in Australia, where it was mid-afternoon; the song was being played on a radio show hosted by a listee in Colorado, where it was late at night; and the song was requested by another listee phoning in from the UK, where it was very early morning indeed. Even over the crackly, intermittent, low-bandwith audio stream, the song sounded pretty good. Mandee: I�m a big fan of your work, and I�m at least halfway tempted to give you a call myself, if you�re in the habit of granting the musical requests of international callers. Plus, you know, it seems to be the done thing. Ken: What on earth were you doing up at such an ungodly hour? And you sound nothing at all like Mojo Jojo, somewhat disappointingly. Some considerable mention was made on Mandee�s show about Halloween. Unfortunately, we don�t really have Halloween here, being the third world and all. I remember being about 10 years old, and my older cousin suggesting that we go trick or treating, and get some STUFF! It sounded like a great idea. I like stuff. (I like things too, but they�re mostly made up of stuff anyway.) The problem was, though, that we were staying with family, at a little house in a small, sleepy country town, where a lot of the locals were somewhat out of touch. We went to the door of one house, knocked, and a confused, elderly woman answered the door. Being something of a staunch traditionalist, I put the question �trick or treat?� to her, and she responded with �neither, thankyou�, and slammed the door in our ham-fistedly made-up and otherwise decorated and/or disfigured faces. To be perfectly honest, we didn�t really know what it meant either, although my cousin had attempted to explain it. As we wandered back down the path, to try the next house, the understandably confused woman reappeared at the door, holding something large in her hands, and yelled at us. Memory tells me that the object in her hands was almost certainly a shotgun, and that she pointed it at us in a threatening manner. Memory can be tricky, though, when it comes to warm childhood nights in late spring, spent wandering about strange places. Also, one of the houses was full of partying teenagers who thought it would be funny to give us some booze for a �treat�; that may have had something to do with it as well. A few people have mentioned Sodastream recently. I had the distinct pleasure of seeing them play live not so long ago; it was a breathtaking experience which may have even prompted a post, if memory serves. They were giving out a three-song sampler of �The Hill For Company�, which I think I must have very nearly worn out in the time between the gig and the release of the album proper. I bought the album the moment it came out, and thankfully it proved to be every bit as spotless in its full-length form as it was as a sampler. I can�t possibly recommend it anything even remotely approaching strong enough terms. It sometimes seems as if there are few advantages to living here, being a music obsessive. I pay through the nose for imports that I have to wait weeks for, and I�ll never see most of my favourite bands live. Being able to stroll down to the local, and have a band like this tie my stomach in a knot for a fiver in the back room, though, makes it all seem a bit more balanced, at least for a while. If they�re playing anywhere near you, please go and check them out; you�ll be gob-smacked, I promise. The newly employed, though consistently inimitable Miss Madeleine of Leicester gave me an honourable mention. I�m not quite sure what on earth I could have possibly done to deserve such an accolade, but thanks ever so much all the same, m�dear. And, straight back at you, with a side order of congratulations, it should go without saying. I�ll also take part of my fifteen minutes to welcome Australian Jen to the fold. I don�t know how we�ve made it this far without you. Kirsten Kenyon said: ��and then you wake up one morning to find frost on the ground and an angry mob of scary geese hissing at each other and doing their dirty business all over your backyard.� If I thought that it was possible to wake up to find such a thing, I�d never sleep again. I actually may not be able to anyway, just at the thought of this. Add in a couple of cabbage patch kids, a Madness record and some long thin things that poke in your ear, and you�ve got my own personal hell, right there. Autumn is my favourite season, but I can�t think of anything more terrifying that a mob of enraged, honking, great big crapping geese. I�m therefore pleased that it�s spring here, and that I�m in a part of the world with considerably lower levels of geese infestation. I�ll leave it at that for today. I�m at the end of a five-day bender of what might perhaps be best described as Chu-ian proportions, by the sound of things, and I think that I�m probably at the end of my rope as well. I�m never drinking again. Hey! No chuckling up the back there! Take nothing but the very best of care, and stay double baked, for extra crunch! Bulk love, -David. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From explodinboy at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 19:04:26 2001 From: explodinboy at xxx.com (tim plumley) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Off topic: Sigur Ros and Bright Eyes In-Reply-To: <20011001002929.97308.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011001180426.19510.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Hey sorry for the off topic post but i'm in a bind. I am wondering if anybody has orchestra tickets for the second night of Sigur Ros (saturday). Right now I have two orc. seats for the friday show but I want to see bright eyes on that night (plus it will be free). Does anybody want to swap with me? --tim --- Rachel wrote: > Hello Sinister! > This morning I woke up knowing that another girl is > asleep in my > boyfriend's bed next to him. And it's my > birthday... > > I am trying to not be "the girl" about it, you know? > Jealous and > suspicious...but i think I have a right to be. This > said girl asleep > next to the boyfriend is actually his ex girlfriend. > They are good > friends. I can't deny him that. She's been here > since Friday and I > haven't met her. Part of me wants to, but part of > me doesn't. > > Maybe I give him too much power over me. He is very > young, only 18. > He is going through an intense art school and it's > his first time at > college and living on his own. He keeps me at arm's > length a lot > because he is afraid of falling in love and being > distracted from his > work. My mind is telling me that I'm an idiot and I > shouldn't have > gotten this far into it. My heart is telling me > that he's special > and I just need to be patient. And then my mind > scolds my heart for > being so naive and that there is NO WAY this is > going to work out. > See, the thing is, if I were 18 too, I would be > FLIPPED OUT over this > ex girlfriend thing. I would be HATING HIM. How > dare he allow her > to come to visit over MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND!!! But > now that I'm in my > mid-twenties, I see that he has no control over > these things. > Especially because he's 18. I think I am learning, > the hard way, the > process of the male mind. And he tells me that I > always know what > he's thinking, that I can see down to the core of > him. It bothers > him. It bothers me today because if I truly know > what he's thinking > then this situation with his ex girlfriend is not as > innocent as it > seems. I think he wants something to happen between > them. > > We're supposed to see Ivy play tonight. He *forgot* > and made plans to > meet with his cousin about a project they're working > on. He changed > his meeting with his cousin, but GOD, he didn't even > have it on his > mind that it is my birthday and we made plans for > this 2 months ago! > Now he's saying he'll bring his friend along. I > told him that he > doesn't have to go with me. But he says he wants to, > but I told him > to call me when he figures it out. And so far, no > call. I think I'd > rather go alone. I don't want it to be tense and be > this THING and > I'm a little bit afraid I might act like a big > bitch. It's just so > weird to think that less than a month ago, > everything was good, we > danced onstage with Belle & Sebastian together! I > felt like we > were...I dunno...grate together. Even Stuart > noticed. > > This is a wake up call for me. it's not easy to > admit when something > that you want to work out so badly is just not going > to. THIS IS MY > WEEKEND DAMNIT!!!! Last night as I drove up > Highland Ave in > Hollywood, on my way home from a club that I went to > by myself, I > decided that I will go to this show tonight by > myself as well. Colin > in Lexington is brave enough to move to Chicago by > himself, so I can > certainly go out on my own. Besides, if I don't get > out there I'll > never meet any nice boys... It just reminds me of a > Morrissey line > "You are repressed, but you're remarkably dressed" > and I will be > smartly dressed, after all. so... > That's my story. > > I know this is long, but I just have a couple other > things to talk > about. > > here's something I like to call > **************DIDN'T CHU KNOW************** > It's better to have loved and lost, then never to > have loved Red > Bull... > > And in !Viva Rachels! news, Rachel Sunset, who I > will aptly call > Rachel Sunny Side Up in accordance with our > breakfast theme, has just > announced that she is in fact a sinister spy. That > would explain why > she has used the name Rachel, she thought she's just > slip right into > the ranks...and a fine plan it was... There are 5 of > us now? I think > we have enough Rachels to challenge the list > Williams to a "battle of > Wills". What that entails is another matter > altogether. Maybe some > other Rachel or William listees have some ideas? Or > any non-rachel > or non-william listees, feel free to give us > suggestions! What do > you think Rachels Cornflake, Grape-nut (hey Rachel > Grape, please > e-mail me!), Archel Toast, Rachel Sunny Side Up? > Did I miss anyone? > > I'd like to tell Will, JenOwl, Kirsten and Astrid > that your posts > are...well, grate. I really enjoyed them, so thank > you. > > The Boy Colin sent me the most adorable presents and > a mix cd that is > superb. He is a sweetheart. I'm so lucky to have > friends like him > and all the rest of you sinisterines!! (that means > you, too, Elise!) > > And one more thing. I think we've sort of passed > over the fact that > Belle & Sebastian did a cover of BILLIE JEAN!!!! > Where was that? > Seattle? WHY do they rock my world so!!!? I wish I > could have seen > and heard that. > > I'm off to get smartly dressed for the Ivy show... > > Love to all of you, > Rachel the Crazy Smartly Dressed Fruitloop > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 20:00:10 2001 From: staralful at xxx.com (staralful -) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:00:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: are you calling mr simpson a liar?no but have pics of him with his pants on fire Message-ID: Dear all I hope this finds you in fine fettle- I am in fine form finally-even though the ould leaving cert is getting on top of me I feel fine and dandy. I really can�t believe four weeks have passed since the events in New York but with that time I have become more reflective on the whole thing. 5000 people at once is a lot of people but in the last month at least that number have died of hunger in the world and other unavoidable situations. The other day I was reading that since 1916 (since the country I live in was officially recognized) at least that number again have been killed as a result of the trouble in and around the North and the sectarian divide there but over time and especially since the late 60�s the people here have grown used to hearing about pipe bombs and car bombs going off and murders and punishment beatings�so much so that it has grown a part of life here and as horrible as it is people really ignore these items that appear 3rd or 4th in the line up in the news if that. People have grown immune to the whole thing and nothing really shocks people here that much when they hear about things. Nothing that is up until 4 weeks ago .On the Friday after the planes went into the buildings Ireland had an official day of mourning meaning that all the shops and schools and banks shut. It felt like Christmas in a weird way as the country was suspended in a state of Limbo. The minutes silence was supposed to be observed but no one I knew did it. The government here said they stood in solidarity with the US but the impression that I have I got from speaking to people around that I know. Was there a minutes silence when the gulf war was on or when 5000 people died cos of hunger.Like arse there was.People here think that the chickens have come home to roost. The person that supposedly masterminded the attack was about 15 years ago funded by the cia to aid the Mulaajah in the fight against the Russians and was trained. On top of that the tunnels and camps where he resides were built with assistence from the states. But it really is a case of the right hand doing one thing and the left hand doing something behind the back hoping that the right won�t realise. The US�s �ethical foreign policy� of bombing and punishing the people of Iraq for their leaders stupidity (in the gulf war 100,000 Iraqi�s were killed but who cares about that when Americans were) This leader was again funded by the US. Countless others have been killed by the sanctions being placed on that country. The US tried to have it all ways and the events really have showed that you can�t both punish and reward a people because you are the �most advanced� part of civilisation. So it really is a case of the chickens coming home to roost and although the events in New York were dreadful and a lot of people were missing people just think for a second about the families at the moment who apart from the sure conflict in Afghanistan are losing family members to hunger or the 100�s of thousands of people going with less food because of sanctions placed on their country while the country placing the sanctions also take the oil supplies which could make that country better off. Even for a second think about the 28 people that have died in the time that it has taken me to write this sentence . The message is a lot of people are suffering apart from Americans who are a lot of them realising that for the first time-not everyone likes them. (one of the reports I read had the question��why are they doing this to a country universally loved and worshiped�) I hope I haven�t offended anyone. ********staralful******** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 19:26:27 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:26:27 Subject: Sinister: I'm a piece of meaty goodness Message-ID: Hello, you 'orrible lot. Talking of 'orrible, don't you think that the Johnny Vaughan sitcom thing is utter cobblers? I do. I've never seen so much steaming cack in all my life, and I was at Glastonbury 1998. A good show, though, is The Armando Ianucci Shows, which I thought nobody else watched, but I'm glad that BigStu does ;). It's rather good - comedy, with a *message*. In a few days time I will officially begin my membership of the YSM (The York Sinister Massive), when I arrive at the venerable institution that some call The University Of York. All that anybody seems to be asking me these days is "Are you prepared/excited/nervous about starting university", and all that jazz, but the funny thing is that I was cool about it until everybody started asking me if I was okay. But I've come to the conclusion that Fresher's Week will be very much like a Strokes LP: over-hyped, easily forgettable and surprisingly short. I'd also like to say happy birthday to Beans for tomorrow. David Moore posted the birthdays of the members of the band a few weeks ago, but Belfast Bob appeared not to be included. I've come to the conclusion that he is therefore God, for the following reason: if he never had a birthday, he was never born; therefore he has always existed, and so he must be God. Oh yeah, and he has long hair too. Maybe he does have a birthday, but he's just being mysterious, trying to fit in the with the classic B&S mould, before they sold out to the Man, man. BigStu also mentioned that "The Boy Done Wrong Again" was his least favourite B&S song. I'd like to suggest "Nice Day For A Sulk", for the same reasons that Stu suggested. It's even more completely innocuous and impossible to have an opinion on than, say, knitting patterns. Just a point of view. Until next time, you slags... Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 21:26:15 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:26:15 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: I´m back Message-ID: <20011001202615.56339.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> I´m back just for asking brazilian sinisters if they don´t want to arrange a picnic before the concert happens. By the way, don´t forget to buy your tickets, cause they started selling them today. Love, DAniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Mon Oct 1 21:31:06 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:31:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: ThanQ Honey *** *** ** laid etc.... Message-ID: The title? ..well those in the know, know, you know. So. Hey this weekend was rather energetic! London's like that tho isn't it, and did I have fun! After the initial "WOW" of Londono San Pancarous, and the "Oh this is dangerous"of the tube, and the "So that place is real and not just a set they use on the news" as you stroll past the power-places. I got lost in a Virgin Megastore, cos they had a sale and lots of things were very budgie-like, Just a pound for Craig David's latest mumblings, search as I did, I just couldn't find it tho (probably sold out in a mad rush when the doors opened that morning) hmmm,yes James. All was not lost mind, I went for the door then stopped and was compelled to pick up a record by some band called Hefner and then another by The Aislers Set. I don't know !, whatever next? --------------------------- Met Lovely Miss Jenni at Camden Town Tube. ----------------------------------- Camden is not quite the quiet little suburb I was expecting, aww! innocent little country gent, It was MEGA!! with all the market area (James rubs his bruised chin, caused by walking about with a jaw scraping the floor after a particularly strong trip on 'London' ) we had a fantastic little wander round there. SILVER SCREEN If I had my way I'd send every single one of you Sinister people out to fill the nations Cinema's and order the showing of 'Together' Ever so good, it is, with lot's of 70's Swedes in amusing situations. Brill ! Sunday had a warm glow all of it's own. ..even if I did have come back to Leicester that evening, all was well ! because I met up with Ken and Maddie in a fave continental cafe/bar place called Bossa (Luvies!). Details of the night would only complicate what was simply a piss-up and I don't think you lot need one of those explaining.. Some weekends catch the light, weekends like diamonds, said Mr David, sort of. If anyone really does read this FAR then you're are absolute STAR. Contented, James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Oct 1 22:46:26 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:46:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dublin Is Dead Message-ID: I'm a bit depressed about the incredibly poor response to my mail floating the idea of a Dublin Sinister picnic. Are there really only five Sinister listers in this city (and one of them was actually in Cork, which is not Dublin)? My suggested idea for a Sinister get together was to take the DART out to Bray and then walk along the sea front being Byronic and windswept. Then we could go and throw away money in the amusements before hitting the lovely pubs of that blessed town. So are so few people really game for such incredible fun? In other news I went to see the Preston School of Industry on Saturday, mainly because their name reminded of The Mull Historical Society. They were very exciting. At the disco afterwards the DJ played Legal Man so Rener and I danced like lunatics. I gather Legal Man is the B&S song they always play at indie discos. party on. DV` +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk Tue Oct 2 14:29:57 2001 From: geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:29:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is an order Message-ID: I've just noticed that one of the best songs you're likely to hear this or any year is available for FREE from the Kindercore website. http://www.kindercore.com It is "Rollerskate" by Call and Response. The direct link is this: http://mkultra.com/new.tiny.mp3s/Call.Response_Rollerskate.mp3 If you do not download this peach of a song, you are a fool. Call and Response are joyous, jangly B&S-ish indie pop. The song contains such classic lyrical beauties as "You gotta learn how-to-stop, When you do the Bu-nny-Hop". Listen to "Rollerskate" and then buy the album. This is an order. DansonHatcher at aol.com wrote: >compelled to pick up a record by some band called Hefner ..and I had *specifically* told him not to. Heathens. -- ____________________________________________ From the offices of HRH Earl Sheridan d'Orange III Buckingham Court London W1A 3ST Private Secretary Mr C. Hawkes KBE Important: This e-mail is intended for the above named person only and should be treated as confidential. If this has come to you in error you should take no action based on it, nor should you copy or show it to anyone; please telephone us immediately. That we have neglected to provide a telephone number is no excuse. Stand up straight and take your hands out of your pockets. God, you people make me sick. ____________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Tue Oct 2 15:06:35 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (u07lec at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:06:35 GB Subject: Sinister: Only the sea makes sense Message-ID: hello sinister! I returned home from a field trip to find you all waiting for me in my inbox, and I was glad, because I'd spent a whole week sliding around on rocks, and losing my feet in rock pools. It was nice to be warm and dry and reading all your posts. I especially liked kirsten's posts, as always, and I loved the thought of the graffiti that gina mentioned. I think I might adopt "ah good, the sea" as my own phrase. It sounds so happy and relaxed, like you expect the sea to be there anyway, but it's still a warm, quiet, lovely surprise when you see it there in front of you. I love the sea too, although my devotion has been severely tested this past week. Everyone I know can recall me talking at great length about the sea; conspicuously, I haven't felt the urge to talk about it this week, after spending eight days on various beaches in the north of scotland, getting up close and personal with the North Sea and the surrounding geology. brrr. The best part was going to Dunnet Head, the most northerly point of the British mainland, one evening, just as the sun was starting to set, and standing on the edge of a cliff (behind a stone wall, of course...I may be stupid, but I'm not brave...). I don't think I've ever stood somewhere like that before, where you can look straight ahead, out to sea, and there's just nothing. All around, just a uniform grey sky, punctuated to the west by a low smear of pink, to the east by the vague form of the islands, smudged and vague behind the fog and the wind and the grey. I could have stayed there for the whole week; instead I gave myself a cracking cut/bruise at Portskerra (on a big nasty piece of gneiss - "that's why they call it hard-rock geology" apparently. hohum), smashed bits of shale open in the vain hope of finding some fossil fish (it turned out to be not such a vain hope after all!) at Achanarras, and erm, trampled through a lot of bracken at Helmsdale. All in all, it was a good week, although I would recommend any visitors to Helmsdale not to buy their sandwiches in the Spar there. It is inevitable that whatever you ask for in your roll,you will be given what is essentially a mayonnaise roll with small inclusions of whatever you actually asked for. And it's not very nice. Things have been all exciting around this way recently. University has started again, and I have to say, there has been an increase in the number of B&S t-shirts around campus. I have seen two this week already, that's a 100% increase since last year, which, mathematically speaking, is pretty damn good. So if either of those two Aberdeen university B&S t-shirt wearing folk are on sinister, show your faces now. Speaking of Aberdeen: I have noticed there are a few sinisterites currently in Aberdeen, I have spoken to one already, and I know of at least one more. Myself and Sunset are having preparatory talks on the subject of a Grampian Region get-together (picnic??? It's never picnic weather here!!), either in Dundee or Aberdeen, so if anyone is interested, I'll volunteer to be 'picnic' mummy (eek!). If nobody else is interested, I suppose the two of us will just have to meet up in the pub and get drunk instead. A pub-nic, I suppose. Without the -nic. ************B&S content*************** My brother has just started university in dundee, and a friend of mine was kind enough to drive me there to do my big-sisterly thing, and make sure he did all the things he was meant to, like eat, and drink water and find his timetable. On the way, we listened to B&S in the car, and my friend was quite happy with this, until LLPJ came on, at which point he said "this is that one I hate!!!", and switched the stereo off. Even though I think it's a cracking song, his reasoning for hating it was actually quite well-justified. He lived in a lot of british holiday resorts as a child, you know the sort, Ladbrokes and Pontins and suchlike, because of his dad's job, and consequently he saw an AWFUL lot of ..well, AWFUL cabaret acts. He said he likes the song, apart from the part where Monica Queen is singing, because it reminds him of a particular brand of dodgy cabaret he saw a lot of. You know the sort of thing: a short, middle-aged man, with a receding hairline, wearing a polyester suit with dandruff on the shoulders, crooning away with his face all twisted and full of "passion", pointing at the ladies in the audience while he sings. Then there's the middle-aged woman, with green sequinned cocktail dress, shoulder pads, blue eyeshadow, fuschia lipstick, lots of blue eyeliner, sequinned stilettos, starting to wail into the microphone about "the greatest love of all" or something along those lines. Then the little old man at the back gets his turn, on the organ, (this is usually the best part - and he would probably be wearing an old dinner suit and a polka dot bow tie, have no teeth, and sit grinning maniacally behind his organ) and all the old dears at the front get up and slow-dance at the front of the stage, before the stage has to be quickly cleared for the presentation of the prize for the children's fancy dress competition. This image has made me giggle every time I hear monica queen hitting the higher notes, thinking about that green sequinned dress and probably some american tan tights to boot. And on that note.... Hasta luego sinister lyns xx ps: If anyone is interested in the above-mentioned get-together, email me offlist and we can assess interest levels. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DISS Web Mail. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/mailman/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Tue Oct 2 18:47:03 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ultra-violet ultra-love Message-ID: <20011002174703.77831.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sini-Kids, Just wanted to say "hello" to everyone, and to share a funny thought (well, a few other thoughts too): Belle and Sebastian and Destiny's Child should get together and do a duet. They could do a song called "Judy-licious". Hee hee hee! Ahhh, I crack myself up sometimes. Shouts out to Sean, my brilliant and sweet love, we double-crushed each other! (is that the right phrase?) And to Rachel Fruitloop (is that the right Rachel?), I adore both of you for your support and for being oh-so-special. Also, a not so fun thought: I believe it was a "Priscilla" who made some not-so-nice comments about sad and lonely people, and how they shouldn't share their feelings on the list. I do not want to start any static on our beloved Sinister, but Miss Thang, some people HAVE feelings, and sharing them with other kind and sweet people (unlike you) helps them deal with being sad or feeling unloved. So go on with your bad, aristocratic, and elitist self, but don't make those people, like myself, who venture out to get some help and a shoulder to cry on feel even worse. That said, I'll sign off and wait for the flames to come. :) Love, lipgloss, and lingerie, -elise P.S. Any word on a Chicago meet-up/picnic? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Tue Oct 2 21:58:25 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:58:25 +0200 Subject: Sinister: This is an order References: Message-ID: Dear Sinisterkids (,Ey, I like that) I've got the Call and response's "rollerskate" and I must say it is sp nice and wonderful. Thnks Geoff! Of course much more good option than to buy the new Hefner record. It sucks! Call and Response are just cool. The singer is the neighbour (girl) we allways wished to have. You know, wake up one morning hearing her singing these tunes on her garden, while having breakfast. :) Regards from Barcelona. Santi. My "top ten bands on earth right now" (part one) is coming soon! ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Sheridan To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Sinister: This is an order > I've just noticed that one of the best songs you're likely to hear > this or any year is available for FREE from the Kindercore website. > http://www.kindercore.com > It is "Rollerskate" by Call and Response. The direct link is this: > http://mkultra.com/new.tiny.mp3s/Call.Response_Rollerskate.mp3 > > If you do not download this peach of a song, you are a fool. > > Call and Response are joyous, jangly B&S-ish indie pop. The song > contains such classic lyrical beauties as "You gotta learn > how-to-stop, When you do the Bu-nny-Hop". Listen to "Rollerskate" and > then buy the album. > > This is an order. > > DansonHatcher at aol.com wrote: > >compelled to pick up a record by some band called Hefner > > ..and I had *specifically* told him not to. Heathens. > -- > ____________________________________________ > > From the offices of HRH Earl Sheridan d'Orange III > Buckingham Court > London W1A 3ST > > Private Secretary Mr C. Hawkes KBE > > Important: > This e-mail is intended for the above named person only and should be > treated as confidential. If this has come to you in error you should > take no action based on it, nor should you copy or show it to anyone; > please telephone us immediately. That we have neglected to provide a > telephone number is no excuse. Stand up straight and take your hands > out of your pockets. God, you people make me sick. > ____________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Tue Oct 2 22:28:08 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 17:28:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Picnic Oct 13/14 (?) Message-ID: THUDERBIRDS ARE GO!!!!! Right, Chicago piccy-niccy looks good. The only question is: Which day would be best? Would you all like to do it on a saturday or a sunday? I've had about a half-dozen peps email me saying they could make it, and one possible, and one that could make it on the sunday but not satuday. Majority vote wins, Saturday or Sunday? Also, where? I totally dig Navy Pier, but it's starting to get a bit chilly, especially in Chicago. Someone who's Chicago local, get in touch with me or the list and give recommendations and thoughts. As for the time, probably 1 or 2pm is best, as it givs and drivers time to get there and find the place. Who's over 21, btw? The 21 and over crowd can go out for drinks after lunch if we want, or we can find a place to drink illegally. Any suggestions will be appreciated, any musical instruments will be appreciated. Let's hear from the Chicago/Illinois/Great Lakes Sinisters. Come, play with us... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Tue Oct 2 22:40:50 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: correction Message-ID: <20011002214050.14160.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, all gals named Priscilla. The twit who I called out was indeed named Pauline. Pauline S-something. Well, they both start with the letter "P". Thanks to the archive for assistance with that one. -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontloveanyone at xxx.net Tue Oct 2 22:53:50 2001 From: dontloveanyone at xxx.net (Mike K) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 17:53:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rollerskates, Shakespeare, and Saki Message-ID: <329CE859.53624DCF.4EB512AD@netscape.net> Call and Response indeed are *wonderful*, and i definitely definitely recommend the album - it's just brilliant. and it's got Kevin Barnes from Of Montreal on guest vocals. What else could you really want? In other news, i've been readying myself for the no doubt life-changing experience of seeing B&S live here in Brazil. It's really great to see they're more famous here than I knew; a surprising number of people from school are going to Free Jazz to see our beloved B&S. I was cast as Prospero in Shakespeare's "The Tempest", which is pretty much the lead role...its great fun. I'm also, with a friend, composing all the music for the songs in the play, so if anyone wants my strange half-drunk demos of the songs, just ask, or something. Just last week I found my Saki (aka H.H. Munro) book. It's a collection of 22 stories, and easily one of my favourite books ever... I hadn't seen it in ages, but it was just buried under some other book i've always planned to re-read, but never did. Anyway, if any of you are looking for something witty 'n well-written to read, that's my suggestion, for whatever it's worth. Is anyone coming down here to Sao Paulo for Free Jazz? If anyone needs currency advice, directions (although i'm not sure how much i'll be able to help, since this city's absolutely huge), or has any questions, feel free to ask! On a completely different topic, the new Ben Folds album is fantastical. Definitely definitely recommended. Check out "Losing Lisa"... wow. Love and hugs, Mike K __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop at Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Tue Oct 2 23:36:08 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 18:36:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: This time it was my thumb Message-ID: <108.65ea872.28eb9b58@aol.com> Well, kids. Guess what I did... For those of you who read my last email, I really badly cut my wrist in sculpture last week. Well, I've got an amusing and sort of short addition to the story.. My teacher is real cool, looks exactly like Cat Stevens and is 27, and apparently he was really really worried because I was the first MAJOR accident in the class. Well, woodcarving is not a strenght of mine. Ive broken my piece three times now, and cut myself badly now, well, twice. So, today we were having a discussion of safety and he was talking about suspending the project b/c of the safety of his students, blah blah... After this conversation was over and I was back at my workstation trying to catch up to the other people (b/c I have broken it twice) I was holding my chisel and trying to steady my piece with my left hand. Well, I get bumped from the right by my teacher and the sharp tool slides off the side of the wood and well, onto my thumb. This was a deeper cut right at the joint, and almost down to the bone (about an eighth to a quarter of an inch deep). I was rushed down to the nurse and had to wait for about 15 minutes with my hand over my head to reduce the blood loss... I didn't get stitches b/c I would spilt them too easily so they poured some glue into the cut and bandaged me up. I missed the rest of my sculpture class. just thought I'd let you know how Inept I am I love you all Kate of c p.s if you want to see me and my escapades, look at silustration 55 p.p.s this post took 15 minutes b/c it is hard to write with no useable thumb.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETypeJoe at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 00:51:55 2001 From: ETypeJoe at xxx.com (ETypeJoe at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:51:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: he reminded you of jo(h)nny, before he went electronic Message-ID: <66.1534fe9b.28ebad1b@aol.com> well i've not quite gone electronic, at least not in an analogue *dead media* type way (putting my twopennorth in - note the clever use of pre-decimal monetary terminolgy there, whilst referring to prehistoric synth arrangements - i think its a good lp - not *the fidelity wars* but good all the same) but thought i would share this ace pc theremin type thing with you that i've discovered. actually i exaggerate a wee bit. my sister put me onto it, but in fairness she did get sent to it by her friend rob, who forms part of shep, who, if you happen to be from stockport or south manchester, you may know are a mighty fine band. anyhow i digress. you can find the link at http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml i don't think darren hayman will be heading there as it involves using computer technology of a size smaller than a small terraced house in burnley - actually you can prolly buy a small terraced house in burnley more cheaply. (hastilly checks *dead media* sleeve notes now - hmmm, can't see one...) obviously its not as versatile as a real theremin (see the bbc site listed for more information and the history and all that jazz) or as groovy as if you could have a marvellous mechanical mouse organ (now does anyone know where i can download one of those?) but its grate all the same. you would struggle to play *i love my car* (hurrah - tenuous b&s content) on it, unless someone far more talented and musical than i should wish to attempt to transcribe something (i wager it can't be done), but it should provide hours of fun for all the family, nevertheless. i guess you could always make like it was something off the next looper album... its worth checking out anyhow - it cheered me up under grey mancunian skys. ah well, tara for now jonny xxx ps the call and response thing is ace too! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 02:16:10 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 01:16:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I think you're wonderful and so does everyone else. Message-ID: I'm sorry, Sinister. I haven't been keeping up. I write this behind the times. What did happen to that Sinister mail anyway? Well, time got away. Then I did. Only for a short while, mind. Like the Beach Boys. That could be construed as an imperative. That could be how it's intended. Not all of it, though. Kevan forfend. It has been said that RJG is the new me. I'm confused. Am I now the old me? And at such a young age, too. Of course it's all an elaborate hoax. Whoever heard of a Dutchman who didn't dance? He knew I was going to say that. Well of COURSE he did. The other week I saw an exhibition of photography. Some of it was bad, it has to be said. The captions were wrong, for a start. One stood out, however. While Rocheteau and Carlos were falling over each other, Platini casually strolled by, sidled away, and levelled. I thought of only one thing, naturally. Jen said: smiling fools And I thought of 1491 things, naturally. Carsmile Steve reported beautifully and succinctly. He must have heard that Miller was back. PETER FALK NEWS The man is on borrowed time now; he's 4 years overdue. Archel talked about toast. She should probably go here: http://www.missprint.org/toast/ PF: A gal said that she was playing 'Eighties Fan' on G-D-C only. Let me record not only my approval but that I have pre-empted this plan by writing Frank O'Hara's 'In Memory Of My Feelings' with only 50 words. They say less is more. Which could seem to make no sense. Less could just be cheating. Play the Bm. But then again. Why? Richard: It's because 'they can't get the wrappers off'. Something landed on a pub table I happened to be sitting at last week. It said exciting things like 'Lloyd Cole', 'The Lucksmiths', 'Camera Obscura', 'Go-Betweens' on it. This was exciting. I thought that this was a moment to remember. I may even have said so. So I am. Remembering. I hope I don't forget to go. It has dancing. Another thing I told myself not to forget were eyes. A blushing groom. 'Don't forget this', I said. The most wonderful thing I've seen in a while. Extraordinary. Really. I'm going to remember this one. Buying too much drink; being overcharged; sudden influxes of friends; a tiara to die for; a speech you wish you could make; Pop quizzes; sausage suppers. It happens all the time. I hope it keeps happening. YOU WERE JUST HOPING TO MEET SOMEONE NEW/SOMEONE NEWER THAN YOU Wow! I just remembered. I heard 'Marx and Engels' on Sunday. It's terrific. I just thought I'd say. Gordon offered: Elliptical breast juggling, Ken: get a grip on that! Yes, just try it. Recently I received a tape of Scott Walker, one of the Walker Brothers. Who, of course, weren't brothers at all. Unlike the Pointer Sisters. They were SISTERS. Soon I might even get an ENO tape. But what do I have to offer in return? Only gratitude, perhaps. Which almost brings us back to F.O'H. Who said: There's nothing more beautiful than knowing something is going to be over Sometimes it seems like there is nothing more exciting than knowing something is about to begin. Lately, buses have been smelling of tomato soup. I'd prefer chicken. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 06:10:36 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 22:10:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chicago meeting Message-ID: if anyone got this twice i apologise...i got an email saying that my first email was in html...i had no idea. so i am resending it in plain teext. sorry bout that. :o( ~sheepish stine hi there. i live in willowbrook..bout 25 minutes west of chicago proper. navy pier would be lovely...sept you are right, taht time of year weather is always iffy...could be 80...could be 35. dunno where else we could meet, where we could just sort of congregate and such without loitering. and the museums are usually pretty insane on the weekends. hmm...ill have to give it some thought. as for the date, i think i can make it either day. and oh yeah, i am 24 so i am definitely of drinking age. and where are most of the people coming...coming from. do y'all want to do tourist'y type stuff, mill about randomly, opr just hang out somewhere and chat? anyway. im sure all of this will come together. adios. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 05:34:56 2001 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:34:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chicago Meet and Greet (Da Picnic) Message-ID: <12a.53cac47.28ebef70@aol.com> I know I don't ever post but I live in Chicago and would love to attend a picnic. I say maybe we can meet up in Lincoln Park at the conservatory or something. Then we have the park the beach, conservatory and the zoo to pick from. Anyway that's just my suggestion and ohh yeah I'm old enough to drink. adam :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 07:35:15 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 01:35:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "chicago-style" comes with onions, mustard, and...pickles, i think Message-ID: <7E38DB138BCD39A49A72F6D2D6D6CD2F@chinacat81.wildmail.com> a chicago picnic does sound lovely...i don't know if i'll be able to make it, but i'll try. and if we don't end up at navy pier, i will be driving down early and riding the ferris wheel for a bit if anyone cares to join me. hehee. you may think i'm joking. i'm not quite 21...i have recently gained access to a plastic card which states otherwise, but the photo is of a broadly-grinning girl who doesn't look like me at all, and i can't pronounce her last name. but i think that if jim would be willing to distract the doorman with a little squaredance, i might be able to slip past. so, yes. oh you know what we should do? we should carve jack-o-lanterns. we could leave them on the sidewalks for the convenience of angry teenagers who might be feeling the need to smash something. but then alcohol + pumpkin guts could get messy, especially with carving knives involved. so nevermind. i hope i will see some of you soon xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 08:11:04 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:11:04 Subject: Sinister: He dreamed of Jeanie Message-ID: Hello. So, what's up? For the past few days the only thing I've been listening to has been Ministry's "Psalm 69." My god. The album was made in 1992, but still pisses on these so called "scary bands" that are becoming huge in America. Funny: Ministry had humour in their music and still sounded scarier than Slipknot, who at the moment try so hard to sound bad and scary but manage only to make me wet myself from laughter. I like the masks, though. Poor Ministry, never got the credit they deserved. That Al Jourgensen really was (and still is) some character. Sorry, that only touched a handful of people here, didn't it? Ok, that's enough about that. Hey, I visited Ant's rather stylish website (the bloke who plays the drums in Hefner, you fools!) http://www.antpop.com ,and noticed that he has played a show in Emmaboda, Sweden. He also says that a part from the show was broadcast on Swedish radio. Now, I'm asking all the swedish listees to check their drawers for a tape which contains this said performance. Anyone? Anyone? Please, I'd be eternally grateful if you could tape it for me. On a more silly note (and not related to music at all, I'm afraid), I urge you all to visit http://www.akiriihilahti.com .Aki is a finnish midfielder who plays for Crystal Palace FC. He has become a kind of a legend amongst CPFC fans, and mainly because of his homepage. Read it and laugh till you cry and fall from your chair. What else? Oh, new album from Stina Nordenstam coming out on the 22th of this month. If you�re interested, visit http://www.stinaonline.com Slow pages, but yet again stylish. Sorry, nothing about B&S here, but I just thought some of you might be interested. -Jarkko F. Steve Albini is still a God, now more than ever. "First he can go quietly/through disease or by blow..." Prayer To God R O C K S. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Wed Oct 3 09:29:19 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:29:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Grampian Pic-nic Message-ID: <004601c14be5$8052f980$dd85fc3e@neil> Surely Banchory would be the obvious place for a North-East meet-up? It would be rude not to. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 10:45:42 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 05:45:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Part one of "Hey, If you ever get caught between the moon and Broughton-Astley" Message-ID: <92.1b0cb377.28ec3846@aol.com> .....the best thing you can do, yeah the best thing you can do is call in mine for a quick snog. put the fear of god into myself with a title like that! I'll surely burn in hell for all eternity to pay the price for bastardising a Christopher Cross song for my own posting pleasure. ------------------------------------- Anyhow. Yesterday or maybee the day before. "Big Idea number one" was concocted in the James/Miss Jenni "mind-lab" "Big Idea number one" then sat around and matured in James's head all the day long, whilst he got arty(keep telling yourself that James) photographing Leicester's premier multi story car parks. By tea time "Big Idea number one" had developed into an idea anyone would be proud to call their own. I'll let you all know all 'bout me plan 'later' like. ----------------------------------------------- Wow! this morning was beautiful, You know when you go abroad to like the Med or somewhere equally lovely and at night the sky is so clear and the strars look so bright and the moon is like a big torch lighting up the world, well that's just how it was here a half five this morning. Such a sight it was I managed to get "front row at the cinema" neck pains while on my bike. Maddie was talking about like songs to charge down the road to. I think she said "boy with../Dirty dream number 2" I personally think The Cardigan's "love is the key" was made for just such a purpose and Heather Nova's "I'm no angel" is a 'monster' track aswell. Virgin radio has well and truly tarnished my soul as you can/may tell in future posts but it is where I heard these songs and of the many things my big love 'Dolly' introduced me to I highly recommend it as the best thing. Other than giving her a damn good thrashing* of course. I've just got a letter through the door and it has (in big imposing writing) 'PARKHOUSE PERSONNEL' written on it. This has got me chewing my nail's and biting my lip in sheer terror. You see, Parkhose personnel was the agency I used to thro at my last job. I left that job over a month ago now, yet due to some financial cock-up they have continued to pay me a wage of £220 almost every week. As you can imagine I was quite content with this system I give this letter a high chance of containing the words.... ...."give us our money or the boys'll be round to sort you out" Wish me luck, I'm about to open my debt-demander. If you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. Excited/Worried.James +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 11:15:01 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:15:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Got a tiger in my tank Message-ID: <20011003101501.96457.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Gorgeous lovelies, If Belle & Sebastian were to do one cover, which song would you like them to tackle? I volunteer Jeans On by David Dundas. Jeans On is a grate song! Can you imagine Beanz doing the groovy keyboards on that? Can you imagine Struan's delicate tones as he sings "you and me, we'll go motorbike riding" (and Pookie picturing herself swooning on the pillion with the sun and the wind and the rain in her hair)? Can you imagine Mick parping some brassy bits and the girls ch-ch-ing and doo-dooing? Can you imagine Stevie ROCKING and Richard pulling his constipated face as he batters his pots? And can you imagine the potential for Belfast Bob's hair? I CAN! I've been in Glasgow for Ailsa's wedding. If you don't know Ailsa, she's a lovely sinisterine who's been a sinisterine for longer than you. Probably. She's been one for longer than me, anyway. She looked like a princess in a glittering tiara and Neil, who is now Mr Ailsa, looked like a bonnie prince in his Pride of Scotland tartan. And, by gum, there were kilts everywhere. Everywhere, I tell you! And hairy knees framed by green or white or dodgy red tartan hose. They didn't play David Dundas at the reception, but they did do the Gay Gordons. Twice! And Carsmile Steve and I did the Twist and Curled Up Carey and I did the Waltz. She was the man. Calumn chatted up all of Ailsa's aunties and we know this for a fact because we heard two ladies asking who *was* that nice fellow in the green jacket? Don't go to see Mike Bassett, England Manager. Above all, don't go to see it in Scotland. However, if you live in London, DO, DO, DO go to LondonIndieUSA, a fabulous indie disco benefit night in aid of the International Red Cross on the evening of 12th October at the Betsey Trotwood in Farringdon. Please. Juicy Lucy ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 14:31:13 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Grampian Pic-nic Message-ID: <20011003133113.5E5373ED3@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From india_claire at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 15:09:59 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: da pic-nic! Message-ID: <20011003140959.63606.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Hey midwest sinister crew (and hey to the rest of the world as well!), I could come to a piccy on Saturday only, and then I can bring a representative from Maryland sinister, aka Darling Sean. That is, if he's okay with driving down to Chicago on top of driving to Wisconsin from Maryland. Unfortunately, Sean is 20, but might bring a fake ID, or maybe could sneak in during Jim's square dance. So. In conclusion, I can maybe come, if it's held on Saturday. I wish Rachel (fruitloop) could come, and could bring Dunston, if he wasn't throwing up. (heh, heh) But dear gorgeous Rachel is in Simi Valley, CA. I'm listening to Public Radio right now, and there is some sort of modern composition playing that features a boing-y instrument. A jew-harp? That seems horidly insulting and old-fashioned. Can anyone come up with a better name for this boinger thing? And also, can anyone name a pop song in which this boinger has been played? (I can't, I'm just wondering) Love to you all, and kisses for Sean, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 18:54:32 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:54:32 -0700 Subject: Sinister: insane in the membrane Message-ID: hi everyone. greetings and salutations from the dark side of the moon...er, chicago at the very least. so i would like to share this story with all of you. on this saturday past i was shopping round the suburbs running errands and trying to hunt down a copy of the advocate magazine becuase i wanted to read the lil article about jonsi from sigur ros....i love them....anyway. after trying several bookstore i thought i'd give borders a try. i sauntered in and went to the "Lesbian/Gay Lifestyle" section. so there i stood reading the advocate. i was so happy to have found it! so all the sudden i notice this woman standing next to me sort of muttering to herself. then she said "yes im talking to you!" and i looked at her, then glanced around wondering who on earth she was talking to. turns out she was talking to yours truly. she then proceeded to ask me what on earth someone who looked like me was doing there. i said "i love bookstores, i go to them all of the time." to which she replied "you know precisely what i mean!" in all honestly, if not naivity, i had no bloody idea what she was talking about...not even thinking about being in the gay lesbian section. so then she started to say that she can't believe someone like "me" was one of "those" as i look like such a nice girl and a good person. she also mentioned that i was a child of the devil himself and that i ought to be ashamed of myself for how i "chose" to live and also feel dreadfully guilty for what i "put my poor parents through." oh my god! i have NEVER been more offended in my life. when i was able to speak after my shock had somewhat worn off i said "how dare you walk up to a total stranger in a public place and pass judgement. perhaps you are the one who should be ashamed as you are a rude, pretentious and totally uneducated old cow. who i choose to have intimate relations with is in no way your business or the business of anyone other than myself and the person whom im with." at this point the manager came over and asked if we were okay and i simply told her that the woman had said something rude and totally inappropriate to me....to which said woman went huffing out of the store saying..."people like me will never be friends with people like you." to which i replied "i have no interest or desire to even know people like you much less be friends with them. my friends are intelligent, respectful, open minded, talented,courteous and amazingly brilliant people and i'm sorry but you just don't fit the bill." and with that she walked out of the store. i apologised to the manager for any type of scene that may have been caused and she gave me a discount on my magazine. oi. what a totally insane day. i mean, as for the gay bashing. that blew me away. i have never been a part of a "minority" group. im a white female from the suburbs,heterosexual,upperish middle class family, catholic..the whole nine yards. i have never experienced anything like that and feel very sorry for people who are in situations like that all of the time just because of who they fall in love with or what religious affiliation they have or where they live or what the colour of their skin is. its so crazy that things like that happen in modern society..where people are educated and have all of the knowledge known to mankind at their disposal....all to be pissed way and totally distorted to fit into what a few fanatical believers believe. oh my. so then i went to get some petrol for colin (he's my car). i was in line to pay and the man standing behind me was telling me that i had a nice smile and then totally flirting with me. i was getting a little annoyed when i noticed that he had a ring on his left finger. i thought to myself that there was no way someone would be that rude...he couldn't possibly be married. so then i left and went to my car...his car was parked next to mine...a volvo...no single man drives a volvo! then he got in and kissed the woman in the car! i was thinking..."sir, the next time you try to pick up a girl at the petrol station, leave your wedding ring behind! CREEP!!!!!" so saturday night i was to go to the cinema with my friend sharon. i love her! awww. anyway. we went to see scary movie 2. it starts off with this sort of exorcist spoof with this girl spewing green gel like substances and such. very pleasant. anyway. there was this woman sitting in front of me while this was on. i would guess her to be 40ish..so anyway. she turned around and said to me "THIS ISN'T OSMOMSIS JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and i said "no its scary movie 2" to which she replied "well no wonder!!!!" and went huffing off. sharon and i were cracking up! that, incidentally, was the only thing funny about scary movie 2. then we saw these people who were driving so insanely. we thought that the one guy cut off the other one so he started following him. we then sort of concluded that they must have known each other.....we followed them for about 30 minutes or so cuz we were certain they were doing a crack deal or something interesting that we suburbanites had not seen the likes of. when they started heading toward the ghetto we decided we best just head back to more familiar territory. no crack deal. damn. ah well. as for the picnic in chicago. i thought that the dates i read were the 13/14 of october...which would be a thursday or friday...so perhaps i misread the dates or the month. anyway. i think we should do it on whatever that saturday is. i am available either day, but i think it would be cool to see elise and a sinister who we might not meet otherwise. just my opinion. we should start a lil sub-section of the list so that we can try to organise this so that it actually happens. :o) my aol im id is toadie291 btw. one more thing. does anyone know what happened to isabellark? i used to talk to her all of the time and she used to post quite a bit but i havent heard from her in ages. aww. well i hope all of you are having toadie days. it is sunny and almost 80 degrees in chicagoish today. take care. thanks for listening. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 18:41:17 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:41:17 -0700 Subject: Sinister: insane in the membrane Message-ID: hi everyone. greetings and salutations from the dark side of the moon...er, chicago at the very least. so i would like to share this story with all of you. on this saturday past i was shopping round the suburbs running errands and trying to hunt down a copy of the advocate magazine becuase i wanted to read the lil article about jonsi from sigur ros....i love them....anyway. after trying several bookstore i thought i'd give borders a try. i sauntered in and went to the "Lesbian/Gay Lifestyle" section. so there i stood reading the advocate. i was so happy to have found it! so all the sudden i notice this woman standing next to me sort of muttering to herself. then she said "yes im talking to you!" and i looked at her, then glanced around wondering who on earth she was talking to. turns out she was talking to yours truly. she then proceeded to ask me what on earth someone who looked like me was doing there. i said "i love bookstores, i go to them all of the time." to which she replied "you know precisely what i mean!" in all honestly, if not naivity, i had no bloody idea what she was talking about...not even thinking about being in the gay lesbian section. so then she started to say that she can't believe someone like "me" was one of "those" as i look like such a nice girl and a good person. she also mentioned that i was a child of the devil himself and that i ought to be ashamed of myself for how i "chose" to live and also feel dreadfully guilty for what i "put my poor parents through." oh my god! i have NEVER been more offended in my life. when i was able to speak after my shock had somewhat worn off i said "how dare you walk up to a total stranger in a public place and pass judgement. perhaps you are the one who should be ashamed as you are a rude, pretentious and totally uneducated old cow. who i choose to have intimate relations with is in no way your business or the business of anyone other than myself and the person whom im with." at this point the manager came over and asked if we were okay and i simply told her that the woman had said something rude and totally inappropriate to me....to which said woman went huffing out of the store saying..."people like me will never be friends with people like you." to which i replied "i have no interest or desire to even know people like you much less be friends with them. my friends are intelligent, respectful, open minded, talented,courteous and amazingly brilliant people and i'm sorry but you just don't fit the bill." and with that she walked out of the store. i apologised to the manager for any type of scene that may have been caused and she gave me a discount on my magazine. oi. what a totally insane day. i mean, as for the gay bashing. that blew me away. i have never been a part of a "minority" group. im a white female from the suburbs,heterosexual,upperish middle class family, catholic..the whole nine yards. i have never experienced anything like that and feel very sorry for people who are in situations like that all of the time just because of who they fall in love with or what religious affiliation they have or where they live or what the colour of their skin is. its so crazy that things like that happen in modern society..where people are educated and have all of the knowledge known to mankind at their disposal....all to be pissed way and totally distorted to fit into what a few fanatical believers believe. oh my. so then i went to get some petrol for colin (he's my car). i was in line to pay and the man standing behind me was telling me that i had a nice smile and then totally flirting with me. i was getting a little annoyed when i noticed that he had a ring on his left finger. i thought to myself that there was no way someone would be that rude...he couldn't possibly be married. so then i left and went to my car...his car was parked next to mine...a volvo...no single man drives a volvo! then he got in and kissed the woman in the car! i was thinking..."sir, the next time you try to pick up a girl at the petrol station, leave your wedding ring behind! CREEP!!!!!" so saturday night i was to go to the cinema with my friend sharon. i love her! awww. anyway. we went to see scary movie 2. it starts off with this sort of exorcist spoof with this girl spewing green gel like substances and such. very pleasant. anyway. there was this woman sitting in front of me while this was on. i would guess her to be 40ish..so anyway. she turned around and said to me "THIS ISN'T OSMOMSIS JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and i said "no its scary movie 2" to which she replied "well no wonder!!!!" and went huffing off. sharon and i were cracking up! that, incidentally, was the only thing funny about scary movie 2. then we saw these people who were driving so insanely. we thought that the one guy cut off the other one so he started following him. we then sort of concluded that they must have known each other.....we followed them for about 30 minutes or so cuz we were certain they were doing a crack deal or something interesting that we suburbanites had not seen the likes of. when they started heading toward the ghetto we decided we best just head back to more familiar territory. no crack deal. damn. ah well. as for the picnic in chicago. i thought that the dates i read were the 13/14 of october...which would be a thursday or friday...so perhaps i misread the dates or the month. anyway. i think we should do it on whatever that saturday is. i am available either day, but i think it would be cool to see elise and a sinister who we might not meet otherwise. just my opinion. we should start a lil sub-section of the list so that we can try to organise this so that it actually happens. :o) my aol im id is toadie291 btw. one more thing. does anyone know what happened to isabellark? i used to talk to her all of the time and she used to post quite a bit but i havent heard from her in ages. aww. well i hope all of you are having toadie days. it is sunny and almost 80 degrees in chicagoish today. take care. thanks for listening. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 17:43:37 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 17:43:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Grampian Pic-nic Message-ID: Is there a date for the Grampian picnic yet? I'm coming home from London to see my folks before Christmas, but after 2 minutes in Arbroath - which is officially in Angus or Tayside, and definitely not a good picnic location - I'd be mad up for a slice of square sausage with lovely sinisters. I'll bring smokies! Miss Ho x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 18:38:14 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: homoerotic britney Message-ID: <20011003173814.93422.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister-- this is a much belated official report of the SF sinister picnic. due to a set of spectacular directions leading all to a very small spot within a very large park, the sini-picnic was also, for many, a sini-marathon. one participant clocked in at over 3 hours. my apologies, again, to all who had not intended to walk 5 miles that afternoon. the pickle prince even scaled a mountain in his search for picnicness. at least the weather was on our side, and frisbee was played, until a small child was inadvertently harmed, and a photo contest with our london counterparts was undertaken. it seems as though edinburgh has beaten us all however. we may have scandal, but you lot have good design. all those interested in eating well should make sure Mike is invited to your picnic. the only thing we lacked was irn-bru. we ate classy food and listened to music and made friends, many of whom had traveled across many states. so yes, it was a success. on other POP! fronts, i am currently recovering from the news that ms. britney spears has decided to snub all of northern california during her upcoming tour. i was so looking forward to her show. pop princesses seem to be corporate-legitimated homoeroticism for teen girls, and this i certainly support. to be in a stadium full of young girls tramping it up -- for each other! plus, in a brilliant New Economy move, a video collage of print ads that britney has starred in is projected before the show -- so you too can have all britney's accoutrements! cover your body with the same shampoo! fill your body with the same milk! thousands of girls thinking, "i want britney's body," in all it's delicious ambiguity! i suppose i'll have to content myself with memories of sporty spice's show last spring, with the punk rawk dykes who threw her bouquets of roses. yours, kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 19:43:25 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:43:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lots of words from an english 15-year-old who copies other peoples subject lines when they can't think of one themselves Message-ID: <20011003185036.TLLK15984.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.90.166]> Well, here I am, slinking back after my last post which, now I read it again seems so callous and objectionable. I'm sorry to all those people who now think much, much worse of me and will never read my posts again. But you won't read this so you'll continue to think I'm the twat I seemed. I'm not. Really. Also, it was meant to say inconsequential, not consequential, which sounded even twattier. Well, this and that has been happenning, My new little sister got born, but she hasn't got a name yet, even though it happened over a week ago. Her Birthday is the day before my other sister's. I would like, at this point, to say that babies are very, very boring. They really don't do anything at all. Cats are much better. And cats, I am convinced, understand Irony far better than humans ever could. It's sort of built into their faces. I'm feeling pretty crap right now, I don't know why. I liked Astrid's post, but then I always do. I'm thinking of doing something similar to what she did to the beautiful boy in the record shop to the next truly gorgeous girl I see but I don't know if it would work at all. I reckon I'd just seem like some complete pervy idiot with nasty, leery eyes. Boys have it hard, you know. (Self pity quotient now fulfilled). Will Salt has also become one of my favourite listees. I'm very bad sometimes, and I only read a few special people's posts and some newbies. I read other people's later but there's a few I always especially like. I won't tell you who they are as that would be somehow nasty but you can imagine you're all one of them. Will Salt is definitely one, but keep it up or you will slip off like some have in the past. Sorry to be bossy, it's not very nice. My English teacher likes Belle and Sebastian. She saw me wearing my FYHCYWLAP t-shirt today and said so. It's really quite odd. Sinisterberry fields forever, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 22:26:14 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:26:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: boo boo, is that a pic-a-nic basket? Message-ID: grant park is indeed where the fountain....buckingham fountain is. though grant part is also about 15 miles wide so that is just a small part of it. as soon as we get everything sussed out ill gladly get directions for people if they email and ask me to. also, i dont live too far from the city proper so maybe some of us could meet here even and car pool...parking in the city can be INSANELY costly. just a thought. well im off for now. talk to y'all soon. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 22:15:19 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:15:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: why should I care about posterity? what's posterity ever done for me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011003211519.93962.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> if you like sense. skip it. I was in the central station in glasgow on friday. in a queue. and I saw howard marks. walking by. I wasn't star-struck. how could I be? had he been accompanied by marty ingels. I might have. smiled. my parents saw john virgo in ikea in nottingham. that would have made me smile. or laugh. you really find out who your friends are when you get an unauthorised haircut. imminent relocation. I'm excited. despite the inevitable dancing. and the slightest risk of someone trying to. persuade me to dance. I'm looking forward to the national pop league. one. it's at a social club. back to a place of useful learning. I was looking forward to it. but now it's here. I can't look forward to it. is 'learning from las vegas' an obvious choice? it seems to be. alasdair: you eat too many chocolate biscuits? mandee may: darn. I forgot. shout out? homeslice? aw. I hate being forgetful. grampian picnic? I like picnics. INSANE IN THE BRAIN [but just the once] a toadie291 at home.com said something about 'scary movie 2' rather than 'osmosis jones'? I remember going to see 'dick tracy' in nineteen ninety. I was nine. or ten. about half an hour into the film an elderly lady turned around from the row in front of us with: 'this isn't 'pretty woman', is it?'. and it wasn't. I remember that. but it never happened. not to me. I don't think I saw 'dick tracy' at a cinema. I think my parents took my brother to see it. and I was elsewhere. and they told me of this elderly woman. I was nine. or ten. I think I just let it rest in my memory with things that actually DID happen when I was there. I asked my parents about it. my dad said it was 'dick tracy', I wasn't there, the elderly woman, 'pretty woman'. my mum said we were wrong. and that it was 'the rocketeer' we had been to see. and I WAS there. and it was in preston. my dad and I disagreed with her recollection. I don't care though. it would still be funny if an elderly lady walked into 'the rocketeer' and watched thirty minutes of it before she realised it wasn't 'pretty woman'. alan wolf arkin was in 'the rocketeer'. alan wolf arkin was in 'wait until dark'. I like the theme song from that. not as much as I like other ones. from that album. or other songs. or other themes. but it's good. michael j. pollard was in 'dick tracy'. I like him. is he dead? does he remind me of peter falk? michael j. pollard was in 'hannibal brooks'. that is almost my favourite film. almost. anyhow: it's a winner. also in 'dick tracy'. a calumn shearer favourite: mandy patinkin. when's the album out? also in 'dick tracy'. a universal favourite [no?]: dick van dyke. marlon wayans is in this 'scary movie 2' one. I don't doubt that it must be indescribably awful. can someone describe how awful? I doubt it. I don't not doubt it. he [the marlon wayans] was in that 'requiem for a dream'. that was awful. and I can describe how awful. sometimes. jennifer connelly was in it too. yeah. it was bad. she was also in 'labyrinth'. obviously. well, she was in 'the rocketeer'. too. yer: back to marlon wayans. I don't like him. he was in the 'the wayans bros.' t.v. show that I've never seen. some of the episodes were directed by scott baio. he was bugsy malone in 'bugsy malone'. and he was in 'diagnosis murder' too. on the telly. with dick van dyke. and barry van dyke. and, sometimes, shane van dyke. three generations of van dykes. wow. I wonder if I'm related to them in any way. probably. ______________________ why did I bother? tell me. I enjoyed a wedding reception recently. I've never been to a wedding. ANC calculated he had [now] reached that paragon of personal life event attendances: four weddings and a funeral. I did some calculations of my own and got an inverted result. is it simply indicative of my life? well. I'd rather be inverted than perverted. wouldn't I? maybe I need a new calculator. the reception was lovely and fun. the bride and groom were, understandably, very busy being the bride and groom. but not too busy to greet and chat and generally be lovely. there were lots of nice people there. I was invited to dance at one point. but there was no pressure. at all. I was a bit silly by the end of the night and said 'oh well'. but then laughed almost more than ever before. and about catherine the great and nick cave and nick drake and sir francis drake and terry hall and hall and oates and quakers oats. oh. and horses and lady godiva. I think. I'm not sure why I didn't laugh about jerry hall. on reflection. or jerry lewis. or dean martin. for that matter. or frank sinatra. or love. and marriage. or the buckingham fountain. or a midwestern picnic. why do I do it? ANC makes me think of the african national congress. maybe it's his accent. I read 'quote from a friend' as 'quote from a fiend'. recently. then I was sure there was a mistake. I don't know why I bother. really I don't. there could be good times on the way, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 21:25:46 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:25:46 Subject: Sinister: a spacechef trailor Message-ID: Hello. Two posts in a week? My my, what is this list coming to? Kyla Schuller said: >>>thousands of girls thinking, "i want britney's body," And then Joe Vester said: >>>Boys have it hard, you know. And I'll lead all of you to draw your own conclusions. Personally, I'd rather have Katie Holmes' body, or Jarvis Cocker's, depending on which side of the ambiguity you wish to fall. Jamie Oliver has a new show coming soon. This is not of any interest really, but for the fact that Belle & Sebastian feature on the BBC trailor for the show. Well, more accurately, their music features on the trailer for the show. The funky bit at the end of A Spaceboy Dream soundtracks Mr Oliver riding around on his scooter shouting mockneyisms as only he (and Damon Albarn) can. All for about thirty seconds. It really is Terribly Exciting. For those of you who don't know of the talents of Jamie Oliver, here's the top thing that came out of the search engine: http://www.jamieoliver.co.uk I originally put in "Jamie Oliver, Naked Chef, Is A Twat", but just got porn results. Surprisingly. There was a power-cut today which began just as the opening credits to Neighbours (5:35pm showing) began, and so I missed the whole show. Not entirely dissapointing, but I wish somebody had said something, because then I would have got out of bed in time for the lunchtime edition. It's times like this when you realise clairvoyance would be a Good Thing. Goodbye. Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Wed Oct 3 23:16:09 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:16:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: time for anit-depressants Message-ID: Yes, the time has come for pills. Everyone else in my family has been clinically depressed at some point, so i guess i'm just following tradition. I've got to do something befroe all my freinds hate me or vice versa. So ,on "Family Tree", the lyrics say that Isobel says "because i'm not here to fool around", but i swear on the cd she says "becasue i'm not here to fuck around." and that's how i play it. Anyone know? I have a renewed affection for all B&S unrequited love songs. Although, sometimes they can turn insomnia into a tear- drop festival. The peace rally in Washington DC was wonderful despite the shitty and inacurate media covereage it's gotten. I'm quite glad i went. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 00:54:24 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You could either be successful or be... In-Reply-To: <20011001114821.D74DD2757@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20011003235424.78418.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> HELLOOOOOOO SINISTER!!! I've been savin' ALL my love for you, writing this post over the last few days. I just want to update you quickly, about my birthday this past weekend. I went to the movies with my friend on Friday night and saw Zoolander, which I thought was a hysterical movie. On Saturday night I went to a club in Hollywood called Bang and, eek! I went all by myself. On Sunday, I got presents and then I went to see Ivy play--by myself again. But you know what? I was fine, and I had fun, and I could do it again. The sucky thing (besides the vacuum cleaner I got as a gift!) is that the *boyfriend-smartly-dressed* NEVER EVEN CALLED, or even e-mailed. And like Elise mentioned, the boy was apparently throwing up all day on Sunday... Amends will have to be made, but somehow I find myself not caring at all right now. Do you know how AWESOME the other Rachels on the list are?!? I just heard from Rachels Grape-nut, Sunny Side Up, and Cornflake and they are such intelligent and sweet girls. So is miss Archel Toast. If you have a chance for some one-on-one, you may want to experience the magic that IS the Sinister !VIVA RACHELS! movement! Anyone can join! *sniff* you girls make me proud to be a Rachel! Spike wrote in regards to a Rachels "Battle of Wills" > I'm up for it. How about a pub quiz or something like the Krypton > Factor? Sure, the pub quiz sounds grate, but what's the Krypton Factor? Maybe we could just have a cross stitching competition!! If we all lived near each other we could double up and have a square dancing competition... but that wouldn't really work, would it?! What would Ken Chu do? Danny Farrell wrote: <> I have the same problem, Danny, as you all know from reading the feelings right off my sleeve and onto this list. I find it therapuetic to express the way I feel. If you can express your feelings in words then you are lucky, at least, I feel lucky. A lot of people don't even know how to think about how they feel in terms of actual words. I think it threatens people, because they are afraid you might expect the same forthcoming expression and some people are just incapbable of expressing their feelings freely. Just take care of yourself in doing so, and you'll find that you have a real gift. I'd also like to say of the comments made to the list by Pauline about not sharing our sad feelings on the list because it doesn't make you lot like us more... well I believe VERY strongly in karmic law, so although you my dear Pauline are caught up in the high times of your whirlwind romance, wait and see who has a deaf ear when you're feeling the pang of yang to your yin. I do agree with Elise on that one. Hannah Brown wrote: <> To me, feeling sinister is definitely when I have evil thoughts, or even just far out thoughts, about things I would like to do, but won't because it would be bad, or because it's impossible... But instead I'll just write to you lot! Welcome back Hannah! Ken Chu wrote: <> I'm sorry about you missing Terrorvision! But not as sorry as the bar stewards must have been! That's just another story to add to my list of why I adore you so, Ken! Even if you don't sound like Mojo Jojo! David from Australia wrote: <> Uh, YAH!!!! (said in the most obnoxious valley girl voice!) Any country that doesn't make a big deal out of Hallowwen is by no means a "modern" society! Halloween here in Los Angeles is INSANE! So much fun.. so much, in fact, that I have decorated my kitchen in a Halloween theme year-round, based around Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas. Just keepin the magic alive, folks! And David, you're so clever with your "Absinth makes the heart grow fonder" and your stories of Halloween and what you would do if you woke up to geese in your backyard... *sigh* I feel a crush coming on! And the fair William Dell Wisner gave me the skinny on Belle & Sebastian performing "Billie Jean" at the 2nd San Francisco show. He said "Oh, yes - partway through the song Isobel sauntered out onstage wearing fake pregnancy padding under her dress." WHAT!? How could I NOT have been at this show! This is exactly the kind of over-the-top dorky humor that I live for, especially when it's *delivered* ha! by my favorite band!!!! I am fortune's fool!!! The ol' Asm wrote about Belfast Bob: <> I have thought that Belfast Bob was god ever since I beheld his glory at the B&S show I attended... I swear he had the halo and everything! What a sweet looking cherub! Do you think that adding such a rock star to the B&S lineup was just part of the requirement of this "sell out" mentioned above?! Lyns wrote of LLPJ: <> I sort of had the same vision the first time I heard LLPJ, and I'm American, so that's to be expected, but I had no idea you had people like *this* over there!! Eeek! Run! And Kate, you had better watch out that you don't have any more mishaps carving out wood, or you're gonna have a knuckle sandwich for lunch!! I worry about you hurting yourself!!!!! You Chicago picnic crowd should consider changing the weekend of your picnic, maybe... because a little bird told me that Colin will be off in a monkey suit in another state that weekend, and although I'm sure he'll have a cooler full of booze, it won't be at your picnic! I'd hate to see you all deprived of the presence of the Colin Boy... But then, Elise wants to bring Sean from the east side and can only do so on Saturday, so... I guess it's a trade off. If Sean has a fake ID or a booze fairy, maybe he can be the understudy to Colin... but I don't think anyone can take Colin's place, really... so you'll all just have to bring a picture of him to the picnic site. Hello to Sean and Colin! And as you know, this fruitloop over here in Cali will be there in spirit! Elise rocks my world. This girl has it all: Beauty, compassion, good taste, intelligence. that must be why Sean likes her! I think their *sinister* romance is so cute!!! There is a new Sinisterine in the nursery named Ryan, and he is super keen, so I'd like to give a shout out to him! Hi Ryan! I'd also like to say to Kirsten K. that you are truly brilliant and to Mandee that I'd love to chat with you again soon if you've got the time! Also, hello to the lovely miss Astrid! I have made a mix tape for myself of "agonizing over unrequited love" songs and it is really making me feel amazingly better lately. I recommend it to any of you experiencing a similar frustrating romance (or lack thereof!) What songs would you put on your mix? Will Salt is so alluring these days, isn't he?! Can I have a margarita to go with that? Lots of love to you all, Rachel Fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Thu Oct 4 01:15:37 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: The clouds, for you, are gilded veils of wedding lace. In-Reply-To: <20011003173814.93422.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Sinister, > this is a much belated official report of the SF > sinister picnic. due to a set of spectacular > directions leading all to a very small spot within a > very large park, the sini-picnic was also, for many, a > sini-marathon. I did find the children's park in the end, but I started late from the wrong side of the park. A girl eating a peach on the bus told me where to get off. She and her friend got off at the same stop as me, but they said goodbye to each other and walked off in opposite directions. I thought there was something romantic about that. Maybe they modified their routes to be together. > intended to walk 5 miles that afternoon. the pickle > prince even scaled a mountain in his search for > picnicness. The layout of the park is awkward: it's more for drivers than pedestrians. Hills, yes, then the children's park appears in a sort of valley. Stray birthday balloons tied to trees, limp by then - it was late afternoon. I thought of the fun you must have had. But I can't say that I expected to find you. Too much time spent dawdling on the way up, dreaming of girls with flowers in their hair. Two lovely children, a boy and a girl, stood by a fountain, and an elderly woman, perhaps their aunt, observed them from a bench. I wanted to take their picture, but you just can't do things like that. They were so golden, they made me think of the children in 'The Turn of the Screw'. > girls thinking, "i want britney's body," in all > it's delicious ambiguity! Yes, it seems right for girls to be lovely, to fill out their skirts and blouses, and for boys to be charming and gentle, asking their sisters, "Shall I tell her some jokes?". > smiling fools > And I thought of 1491 things, naturally. Obsessed with numbers. (See, I watched 'Gregory's Girl' the other day.) Narcissism - I don't know if there's much fun in that. (But I don't know if Kyla's saying it will end up that way.) I was going to catalogue all of the charming things Stuart did onstage, but David Moore was right - say no more. (It's commendable that he has managed to appease us all these times with just the right details, faithful, but giving nothing away. A fourth job, writing for the society pages? Sometimes a list of names will do.) When I first subscribed to sinister, someone asked for suggestions for something to read at a wedding. I had this in mind then, and the news of Ailsa's wedding brought it up again. It's from the end of 'The World Is A Wedding' by Delmore Schwartz. "'In the beautiful picture by Pieter Breughel [...] you can see a squatting child on the floor, sucking his thumb which is sticky with something sweet. Standing by the table are two musicians, bearing bagpipes. One is young, handsome and strong; he is dressed in brown and his cheeks are puffed out. The other musician is unkempt and middle-aged. He looks far away as if he were thinking of his faded hopes. The serving men are carrying a long tray full of pies. The bride is seated beneath the red-white mistletoe and on her face is a faint smile, as if she thought of what did not yet exist. The bridegroom is leaning back and draining down the ale from a fat stein. He drinks as if he were in the midst of a long kiss. Nearby is a dwarf and at the head of the table a priest and a nun are conversing with each other. Neither of them will ever have a husband or a wife. On the right hand of the bride, an old man looks ahead at nothing, holding his hands as if he prayed. He has been a guest at many wedding feasts! He will never be a young man again! Never again will youth run wild in him! 'Opposite the bride are the fathers and the mothers, all four. Their time is passed and they have had their day. Yet this too is a pleasure and a part for them to play. I can't tell which is the suitor whom the bride refused, but I know he is there too, perhaps among the crush that crowds the door. He is present and he looks from a distance like death at happiness. Meanwhile in the foreground a handsome young man pours from a jug which has the comely form of a woman's body the wine which will bring all of them exaltation like light. His bending body is curved in a grace like harps or violins [...]'" Congratulations, Ailsa! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 04:57:19 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:57:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: It can't be love, for there is no true love Message-ID: Hello everyone in sinisterland, Love and emotions abound on the list these days, and congratulations to the recently married! (Please, do not read any further) New relationships are blossoming, some are in troubbble, but that's the cycle of "love" i suppose. Me, I don't think I've ever been in love. I seem to remember thinking it at one point, and I know I said it several times, but I just don't think I was. If I was, it didn't leave a very lasting impression. I suppose hindsight can only be 20/20 if you can still see it. I can't remember much, nor do I really want to. I know I was happy for a time, but I don't remember why or when. I don't think I actually believe in love. Well, that romantic, relationship love. It seems in all (2) the relationships I've had, seems go well, but they go sour after a bit, I grow tired of it all, and move on. Usually it's some damned annoying scene, where I kind of coldly tell them it's best we break up, blah blah blah. The crying begins, and all I can think about is getting home and sleeping, or watching a movie, or perhaps I'm thinking of the song in my head. Whatever is going on, I don't really care. I feel bad about this, but does that mean I do care (see Ben Folds Five "Jane")? I really don't think so. I think I feel bad because I'm selfish, and I'd like to think of myself as emotional or caring or something. I love all you people for being emotional, and I hope you stay that way. Never hide anything. I suppose I live vicariously through your emotions. I get excited when I read about good things happening to a lot of you, and I feel sad when things aren't going so well. I don't feel that way with my friends, or family, or my girlfriends or ex-girlfriends. I don't feel much of anything towards any of them. It's because of this I don't think I've ever really been in love. I love songs, I love movies, and maybe I've loved the idea of someone, but never that actual person. It all comes up a big disappointment. I just don't see love lasting forever. I don't see how it could possibly happen. I'm sure it can somewhere, but I've never seen it. I'd like to believe in love, but it seems more like an idea than an actual thing. Hmm...has this turned into rambling? I think it has. So I'll stop. The beautiful and glamorous Kirsten Kenyon mentioned geese, and Dave added to it. I agree with you, they are horrible creatures. I was once attacked by a goose, and it was an awful experience. I was trying to feed the bastard, and it went nuts on me. I was like Pauly Shore and that damn turkey. Or not. So I realized the White Stripes song "Union Forever" comes from citizen Kane last week. Does everybody else know this but me? Does Jack seem like a jerk to anyone else? He seemed to be when I saw him, but Meg was cute. :) I saw Wilco last week. Everyone needs to see them, their new stuff is incredible. And Jeff Tweedy's a much nicer guy than I expected. I saw Beulah Monday night, which was great too. Everyone should see them. Their new album is amazing. It seems such a shame that there were only about 120 people at the show tops, and most didn't stay for the whole thing. I can't believe all the people in Atlanta don't realize what's going on in their own city. They take the fact that they live so close to such great stuff for granted, whilst I have to drive five hours there and five hours back in one night for a three hour concert. Does anyone else think Richard Gillanders is one of the coolest names around? I need to finish reading for history. I don't think this post made much sense, so I'm sorry about that. -Matt P.S. Ken is right, I proved it this weekend. Red Bull and Vodka is fantastic. P.P.S. Happy birthday to all you sinisters who had birthdays in the past week! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 05:10:08 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:10:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sooner or later we will melt together Message-ID: Hullo Sinister Kids, A fresh-baked cookie to the first one who knows what the subject line is from. Anyways, I figured I'd take a brief moment away from doing grad school applications, putting together tracks for my "Love Songs for Heathens" mix tape, and struggling to get used to playing bar cords to drop a wee mail to the list. I really hate bar chords. I won't say too much on the subject, but I really enjoyed seeing staralful's post, dead on that. Elise wrote a post entitled Ultraviolet, Ultra love and I thought she was going to proclaim her love for Ultraviolet, one of the best Brit TV shows I've seen in a dog's age. I wish they had made a second series of that, because it was brilliant. At least now it's availible in the states on DVD and video. You can't imagine my suprise that someone on the Sinister list would reference Ministry, especially "Psalm 69", I may have to include that on my love songs for heathens tape. Jarkko you evil person, you're sending me flying back to my box of tapes from high school and causing me to have that song stuck in my head all day. I'd forgotten how much "Psalm 69" made me laugh, they just don't make music like that anymore :) stine wrote about running into an utterly evil person in the bookstore. I always have to check the calender when I here stories like that, just to make sure we're really in the 21st century. Sometimes peole are just scum, and while i'll make allowences for the beliefs (no matter how ridiculous) of others, being stupid and rude to another person is beyond the pale, especially over something like sexual orientation. I wish Colin could make the picnic... Okay, I wish Colin's booze could make the picnic, but he's welcome as well. Seriously though, Colin's a great guy and is in large part responsible for making the Great Lakes Picnic a success. Obviously, we'll have to start having picnics more often, though I pass the reigns for the next one onto someone else. The weather's finally starting to turn here in Michigan, and the bright days of summer are giving way to the grey and windy days of Autumn. Which, what with the weather getting gloomy and current events, it's no wonder that some peeps are feeling a bit down (a firm pat on the back of Miss Spry for sticking up for the sad people). Saying things like "cheer up, or "look on the bright side" are always hidieously cliche and, to be blunt, don't really do a damn thing if someone's feeling down, but things do get better, and the season always turns and spring comes again. There, that was a metaphor, because I am a smart English major and know about these writing things. So to all those sad people out there, just remember that we all go through it, not a one of us, not matter how much we'd like to pretend otherwise, are free from the blues and feeling down. October's a weird month, and this time of the year even a poor grinning idiot like me can start to feel down, but on the flip side some of my happiest memories are of the autumn and winter, anytime and anyplace can be heaven if you're happy. Here's a happy memory for you all: A few years ago I was out just a few days before Halloween, riding in the backseat of a car with a girl who I quite fancied, and who fancied me. I was utterly in love, and we're riding around and it's chilly, the kind of first autumn, end-of-October chill where it feels far colder than it is because you're not used to it yet. My two best friends, Bryan and Jeff, are driving around aimlessly, just having fun and driving around back roads and laughing. This utterly gorgeous (to me) girl and I are in the back seat passing a gallon of apple cider back and forth, there's a Beatles tape in the player and we're passing the cider back and forth and drinking and singing along to the Beatles and huddling against each other for warmth and laughing our hearts out. It was one of the best moments of my life. I had my two best friends and a girl I was quickly coming to love and her me, and I had the Beatles and cider and I felt completely free. Eventually, things ended badly between me and the girl, and I won't say much about that. We were both at fault, and she had some problems that she couldn't handle and things fell apart and she went away. No hard feelings though,, if we had both met at better times, maybe things would have worked out differently. So, because things ended badly, I should be sad, but I can't forget that night, or others like it. If you're feeling a bit down, just try to remember a night like that you've had, and remind yourself you'll have them again, I know I have. Take care of yourselves; Be Sinister Children... Jim "I'm singing for the lonely, yeah. Keep them in your minds, oh yeah. I'm singing for the words we've left behind, lost in space and time" - Drugstore _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 07:17:09 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 23:17:09 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chicago...again Message-ID: hi everyone. miss me? i thought so. :o) i just got back from the cinema and dinner with my gram. she is so amazing. she and my grandpa raised me so she is my mother as far as i am concerned and i love her sooo very much. anyway. enough of that. hope all is toadie with everyone. in regard to the chicago thing. am i correct, it is on saturday the 13 of october? if that's incorrect then lemme know. also, the carpool thing is fine with me. if we take a couple of cars and can fit 4 or 5 people in each...then split $15 parking 4 or 5 ways it saves all of us tons of money instead of each of us going alone and each paying that amount alone. just a thought i had. so are we meeting in grant park? if so we need to be totally explicit about that as grant park is massive. the tiny little section of grant park where i saw radiohead a couple of months ago holds 40,000 people so it's a big ol' park. i actually never knew how neverending it was til that show actually. and if none of us have anything against being outside, navy pier is still a great idea. they have that big ol' ferris wheel and everything. :o) do we have any idea how many people are going to be coming? also, i dont have a problem with giving some people my phone number so we can try to coordinate something in real time as opposed to convoluted emails back and forth. the convoluted emails being from me btw. :o) and if we know how old people are and so on then we can better plan i think. maybe not. sorry, not trying to be pushy but i am typically left to do the planning in my circle of friends so i apologise. :o) well, tuesdays and thursdays are 14 hour days for me so i should prolly head to the land of nod. tomorrow i am taking the girls to the childrens museum. that place is so bloody cool! :o) bonsoir. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 05:48:19 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 05:48:19 Subject: Sinister: Recordings? Message-ID: Hello to all! I'm here with my harry potter just wondering about things like how much my leg hurts right now for no apparent reason and if anyone has or knows how to gain access to any recordings of any (especially the second San Francisco and L.A.) shows that Belle and Sebastian recently played. It's been almost a month and the smells and sounds are beginning to fade from my sense memory (not many sounds) and I would really, really enjoy hearing those again...and Billie Jean is a thing not to missed. I noticed at the second Warfield show a guy was walking around with a hand held video camera, he was talking to Stevie Dreads at the sound booth and then I saw him in-between the pit and the stage filming the the band...did anyone else see him? or talk to him? curious. I'm taking a print making/silk screening class and I think I would like to make b&s t-shirts and posters, I think it would be fun...well, I hope you all are well. tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 07:57:44 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:57:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Introducing... Message-ID: Hello Sinister. Hope everyone is feeling sinister tonight. I'm out of the nursery finally! I think I have a general idea of what everyone here is like. Basically, all of you write some of the most eloquent and very "indie" e-mails I have ever seen on the list. And I've been on a LOT of lists since 1995. I guess I'm a geezer of sorts... I'm Ian. Pleased to meet you all. Here are some Belle and Sebastian pictures from their 2nd show at the Warfield in San Francisco. And yes, that is me with Stuart after the show. Such a nice guy! Probably the nicest rock/pop star I have ever met since Andy Bell. http://photomail.photoworks.com/sharing/roll.asp?Key=7156903240430508 Enjoy! Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Thu Oct 4 13:56:35 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:56:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: SWF wanted Message-ID: That's sinister's wonderful females! ;-) Wasn't KirstenKenyon looking for somewhere to live a while back? What I'm on about is that me and my non-sinister, non-b&s loving (please forgive them, for they know not what they do) housemates have been interviewing prospective tennants for two rooms in our house which are becoming available. I was told not to ask if they like Belle & Sebastian in case it put them off :-( *The Strokes v Hefner* I have a (hypothetical) eleven pounds in my pocket. How should it be spent? Answers on postcard messages. I'll buy whatever wins. on a related topic can everyone's favourite virgin (records employee), Brenda, please post with the subject "I had The Strokes at the age of twenty four"? DansonHatcher said: >I'll let you all know all 'bout me plan 'later' like. well? *Happiness* Walking down the road just now on the way to the Laughing Halibut chip shop to get my lunch I was overcome with a wave of spontaneous happiness that I couldn't attribute to any particular event or circumstance in my life and a broad grin spread across my face. It's like when I'm miserable it seems like *everything* is getting me down. Why's there no inbetween? sorry it's all a bit bitty. ben xxx ps - ooh, new single in 39 days and counting, y'all get excited now, y'hear! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 14:49:06 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: idea for chicago Message-ID: <20011004134906.76361.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hey midwest-kids, Thanks to Toadie for cracking the whip of organization. Since (as she sez) Grant Park is so big, and parking is so expensive, and she is so generous for offering her place as a meet-up point: shall we just plan on that? Jim G is gonna be driving down from WI with me, SweetSean, and maybe Kirsten. And then whoever else is coming can meet there, and can be whisked off for a Saturday of fun and gaiety. (heh, heh I said "gay") Yea? Nay? And what's up with this booze thermos thing? Is it propriatary to Colin or can someone else bring a big Coleman cooler full of booze and share it? Winks and waves to all, kisses to some, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 00:49:43 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:49:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: these burgers are crazy Message-ID: <002701c14d2f$5aed7e40$7e577ad5@aqlzosqt> i am working at home this week writing letters to 'artistes' and provincial writers groups. my eyes are a bit sore from looking at this screen now. and i don't think my professionalism was enhanced by listening to the moldy peaches all day. but i'm still prepared to risk migraines writing to sinister... confession: on tuesday afternoon i ate a whole bag of nacho chips in front of pretty in pink instead of looking for a proper job. there is NOTHING better than watching john hughes films in the afternoon. apart from perhaps the princess bride on dvd, at any time of day. more diversion tactics: while thinking about what sort of thing to put on a minidisc for our friends in japan, i thought (again) about what would be on a 'best of' b&s compilation. may i burn in hell for starting this, honey, but if you could have just one track from each single/ep and two from each album, what would your final list look like? mine goes: expectations my wandering days are over get me away from here i'm dying mayfly dog on wheels photo jenny le pastie de la bourgoisie dirty dream no 2 the boy with the arab strap slow graffiti legal man the model there's too much love jonathan david that was really hard actually... and i'm sure even harder to justify. leaving out the state i am in and women's realm and the loneliness of the middle distance runner was particularly painful. luckily i don't have to choose in reality :) matt wrote: >I love songs, I love movies, and maybe I've loved the idea of someone, but never that actual person. It all comes up a big disappointment. I just don't see love lasting forever. I don't see how it could possibly happen. I'm sure it can somewhere, but I've never seen it. I'd like to believe in love, but it seems more like an idea than an actual thing. and the pernice brothers wrote: > it fills me with regret. i can't believe in love, and i want to believe. so you're in good company, matt. i reckon once you do love someone it will be completely different from anything up to that point, and you won't even remember that there was ever a distinction between the idea and actual thing... take it from of a reformed cynic. speaking of love, congratulations ailsa and neil. give them both a big kiss from me ally :) got to catch the post, or god only knows what the peacehaven writer's circle will do. luv archel *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matt at xxx.uk Thu Oct 4 17:05:21 2001 From: matt at xxx.uk (matt at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:05:21 +0200 Subject: Sinister: No Compass Message-ID: <20011004160520.HQTR2560.fep01-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> The new No Compass fanzine has a review of the Belle and Sebastian show in Ipswich 2001 and a lovely drawing of Stuart. Plus interviews with PostaLowa, V/VM and Mum (the band that two twins on the front cover of "fold your hands child..." are in). Write to me off the list for details. Matt _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toescantalk at xxx.com Thu Oct 4 17:17:38 2001 From: toescantalk at xxx.com (toescantalk at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 16:17:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Glasgow is where it's at Message-ID: Hello, I bring news to the people of Glasgow that can not help but excite you. And no I'm not talking about the new Freeman Hardy Willis shoe megastore on Argyll Street. Though it is very impressive isn't it? It has a overwhelmingly comprehensive collection of plastic slip on shoes with more types of tassle than I'm had hot dinners. And I like my food like my women. On a tray while I'm watching Eastenders with a nice cup of tea. Sorry, I meant HOT. Talking of HOT. There's some gigs on too on this Saturday in the land where beer can be bought remarkably cheap in Wetherspoon's pubs, where the grass is always greener, largely due to the amount of rain.. There's two wonderful Irish bands The Dudley Corporation and Joan of Arse playing not once but TWICE. Wow! Can you imagine your good fortune? Their playing the 13th Note at 3pm in the afternoon and at the happening Glasgow University PostGrad Club in the evening. I'd recommend them highly as I like gigs like my women. Packed and sweaty. Umm... Them simple Irish folk sure can play some lovely and beautiful tunes. See www.thedudleycorporation.com or www.joanofarse.net if you need any coherent info. It really is that simple. So don't fret if you went mad and bought some new shoes from Freeman Hardy Willis, there by a musical force in town to shake your tassles too and make your white socks sweaty. I hope you didn't forget your odour eaters. That's a thing with a bad appetite. Anyone in London alternatively might fance seeing the Lucksmiths and Essex Green playing at the Spitz near Liverpool Street this Saturday evening instead. That might be fun too. Umm... while I'm plugging things I have got a new book out. It's called "The History of Coopery 1445-1956". It really is a barrel of laughs. Largely because I stopped the book before the black days of the novelty furniture. Te ra, Martin --------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager http://www.runbox.com/mail2 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcbots at xxx.nl Thu Oct 4 22:22:33 2001 From: marcbots at xxx.nl (marc bots) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 23:22:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: let's make a minidisc for our friends Message-ID: <200110042111.f94LBjD08136@wn1.sci.kun.nl> brillliant. but extremely hard indeed, especially with a few beers to many (vodka and red bull hasn't really conquered nijmegen yet, though it definately is a sublime combination). so, here it goes: expectations we rule the school get me away from here i'm dying the boy done wrong again dog on wheels photo jenny a century of fakers is it wicked not to care seymour stein this is just a modern rock song legal man waiting for the moon to rise don't leave the light on baby the loneliness of the middle distance runner i'd probably change the order, but not tonight. it's hard to read all your lovely messages, you guys are too far away to invite for an evening of b&s only. it's good to know that you're out there. and holland is not exactly the other side of the world (one-way ticket glasgow or london only 30 euro or so. i could be there tomorrow). sweet dreams, love marc +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justinsaway at xxx.uk Thu Oct 4 22:52:09 2001 From: justinsaway at xxx.uk (justin) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:52:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: lucksmiths gig on saturday?? Message-ID: <002d01c14d1e$d1173040$40f91f3e@jarred> long time lurker, first time poster ... sorry for the list abuse ... just wondering if anyone is going to the lucksmiths gig in london on saturday and if so if they are interested in meeting up with a canadian boy a long way from home for a drink beforehand as i know nobody in london and there is only so much telly i can watch ... please reply off list if interested cheers, justin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 05:59:19 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:59:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Making posts out of nothing at all . . . . Message-ID: <16b.1ec301d.28ee9827@aol.com> Sinister! Oh, you lovely people! How good it is to know you've all got an avid ear and fine sentiments. I like this minidisc game! What fun! Heartwrenching fun, but a good time nonetheless. I, er, won't be playing tonight, however. Maybe some other time. I'm indecisive tonight. Although I must say, when making a converter/sampler for B&S fan-candidates, I have always stuck to the one-song, two-song rule as previously outlined. It's a winning combination. So. Fall has arrived. Lovely, beautiful, aching fall. Do you know what this means? It means when I walk outside in the mornings the air is cool on my skin, and the slow breeze is like a seductress. In other words, it's under 100 degrees, now. And likely to be until at least April. Three o'clock sun slants perfectly through the shutters, laying strips of honey-gold across the tile, and the shadows of tree limbs bending in the wind is sillohuetted on the wall. It's perfect. Absolutely. My favorite. It's actually beyond my descriptive capabilities. Ooooh. I could do a little dance. Maybe I am ;-) << And yes, that is me with Stuart after the show. Such a nice guy! >> Welcome, Mr. Ian. . . but first things first. I won't call you names out loud, but indeed, they're ricocheting around my brain. Lucky dog. Next order of business, where were you at the picnic? Unless my recall is failing utterly. . . surely even a Sinisterine-in-training could pop his head up for good measure. . . well. Next time, buster. . . you'd better be there! As for the love-cynics out and about in this sinister world, all I can say is. . . well. I don't really know what to say. I have to agree with the statement that love is a perfect idea, but seems frail and easily shattered in reality. It certainly does. I enjoy it from a distance. Love is like a Monet. Cohesive and patterned and quite nice from about 10 yards. But up close, ummmm. . . well, a bit fragmented, and not exactly as advertised. You know? No doubt, I've made a poor job of explaining myself. But, there you go. And that's all my fine feathered friends. Go back to your Red Bull and Vodka's and your other assorted fizzy drinks, respectively. Yes, Mr. Chu, I'm talking to you. Much Love, Shannon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Fri Oct 5 09:05:22 2001 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:05:22 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: offtopic: alternatives to audiogalaxy? Message-ID: my dears, i know audiogalaxy is something rather akin to manna from heaven at this point in our post- napster lives, but something odd has happened to mine and for some reason i can't seem to reconnect, no matter how many times i have tried! so, i am sending a plea out to all you tech- savvy people out there- does anyone know of any program which is as good if not, even better than adiogalaxy from which to d/l mega- cool mp3's? where the people have impeccable taste in music, as they do on audiogalaxy? i tried kazaa but that sucked. ditto bearshare, for some reason!! i am desperate, i need my mp3 fix, and audiogalaxy is sending me up the freaking wall! thanks, kin, pulling his hair out in WA "Consciousness is a terrible curse" Jeffrey Eugenides +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 10:28:35 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:28:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: offtopic: alternatives to audiogalaxy? Message-ID: Dear Kin and Sinisterkids, You should try MORPHEUS, a great download software. Really cool, really selective. Full of great stuff. You can even download other stuff but music. I found there most of the bands I like. You can already find the new songs from Call and Response!! It's great and technically cool! Forget Audiogalaxy which is full of shit. You can get it at:http://www.musiccity.com/ Let us know what you think! Santi from Barcelona. _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 09:43:59 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:43:59 Subject: Sinister: Dude shaved me bare, gave me a lollipop... Message-ID: ...anybody who can give me the next line gets "nuff respeck". Hello once again. This is getting regular. I was due to get my hair cut the other day, and then my hairdresser cancelled on me because he was ill. So I just shaved my head myself. Now I have 12mm long hair all over. Don�t worry, it�ll grow. Hair normally does. The Tom McRae album is a gem. It sounds like Jeff Buckley doing a Nick Drake tribute. Well, it does to me, anyway. James Gilmer said: >>I really hate bar chords And I must concur. All the F# etc rubbish is just showing off, right? I�ll play them if pushed, but I find that most songs are playable on open chords if you have a capo in the right place. Some people will say that that�s not the spirit, but TLOAMDR can be played entirely with open chords if you put a capo on the fourth fret. Go on, try it. But not now. *****B&S Compilation Challenge***** Here�s my choice: The State That I Am In My Wandering Days Are Over If You�re Feeling Sinister Judy & The Dream Of Horses Dog On Wheels Photo Jenny Century Of Fakers Ease Your Feet Off In The Sea The Boy With The Arab Strap Slow Graffiti Legal Man I Fought In A War The Model The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner *****B&S Compilation Challenge***** Continuing the Britney thread (what Britney thread? Shhh�): According to Popbitch, her new single will be called �I�m Not A Girl, But I�m Not Yet A Woman�. Translated into Chinese, and then back into English literally, you get �I Have Bled, Yet Have Not Been Penetrated�, which, of course, is true. No, you�re right, I didn�t have anything to say really. Love Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Fri Oct 5 11:14:42 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:14:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian on the te-elly (and important UK plugging) Message-ID: apols if someone has already mentioned this, but there i was happily drifting off to sleep whilst mrs carsmile watched seinfeld (splingedy bingedy boing). As the programme finished, and the cry of "oh god, a new fat-tongue-boy series" (actually it was a bit ruder than that, but i'm feeling polite today). I thought "this music sounds familiar" in my drowsy state, but it was only as the advert finished and i started singing the beginning of dirty dream #2 to myself that i realised that JAMIE OLIVER HAS B&S ON HIS ADVERT FOR HIS NEW SHOW!!!! the funky bit at the end of a spaceboy dream to be precise (ie possibly one of the least b&s-sounding bits). Still better than arseloader, eh? moving on to my blatent plugging, which i am only doing as it is for CHARIDEE and a GOOD THING IN GENERAL. BENEFIT CLUB NIGHT ANNOUNCED FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS ON USA LondonIndieUSA 12th October 2001, 8 PM - 1 AM The Betsey Trotwood, 56 Farringdon Road, London EC1 Nearest Tube: Farringdon Entry £5 Following the horrifying events of the 11th September, London's indie community has come together to organize LondonIndieUSA, a benefit night in aid of the victims of the terrorist attacks on America. All proceeds from this club night will go to the International Red Cross. London's indie scene has enjoyed strong long-term links with America, with bands crossing the Atlantic in both directions, and fans finding common ground online. Every indie fan in London has friends who have been seriously affected by the recent attacks. This benefit is an attempt to reach out and offer support. LondonIndieUSA will take place on the 12th October at the Betsey Trotwood pub over two floors. More than a dozen DJs, representing several of London's regular indie nights, will be taking part. They'll be playing everything from full-on pop to experimental eclectica, with the emphasis on dancing and fun. Records, memorabilia and booze will be raffled for charity during the evening. Oh, and the Betsey Trotwood is fully licensed until 1 AM! This is a unique event, a chance for London's indie scene to show how much the friendship and community Americans have shown us means. The fact that it's going to be the best indie night out this year is, as they say, a bonus. Doors open at 8PM and entry is £5. >From what i can see there are at least 7 listees on the decks (including me ;)), and several more involved in organisation etc. If anyone wants to know anything else (and yes, we know there might be a tube strike next friday) or wants to help out, drop me a line :) hopefully see some (lots?) of you there xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 07:49:56 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:49:56 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I wish I can speak Icelandic References: <16b.1ec301d.28ee9827@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I just came back from the Sigur Ros show at the Warfield here in ever so lovely San Francisco. They were absolutely amazing! Although, seeing them at the same venue where I saw Belle and Sebastian is kinda weird. To me, Belle and Sebastian will always own the Warfield and everytime I think of the Warfield I will always associate Belle and Sebastian. If anyone gets a chance to see Sigur Ros play in their local neighborhood, I suggest you do so. And about Hefner, love Hefner. Never heard the new album except for the song Dead Media. Promising at best. From: > Welcome, Mr. Ian. . . but first things first. I won't call you names out > loud, but indeed, they're ricocheting around my brain. Lucky dog. Next > order of business, where were you at the picnic? Unless my recall is failing > utterly. . . surely even a Sinisterine-in-training could pop his head up for > good measure. . . well. Next time, buster. . . you'd better be there! Unfortunately, I didn't even know there was a Sinister picnic Shannon. I just came on Sinister and never knew about picnics and such. So cute! I will make it the next time around. But anyways, I have to rest my ears. And I will play the MiniDisc game some other time. Take care. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Fri Oct 5 11:19:09 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:19:09 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Just like Jonathan Richman, I AM SO CONFUSED Message-ID: <006901c14d8b$cbb7d560$ba6137d2@computer> ***WEIRDNESS IN THE B&S CAMP*** I am extremely confused about recent developments in the "new B&S single department" and was wondering if anyone could clarify. (Anyone uninterested in the more anal details of release info etc. should probably skip to the next post right about now ....) (also, apologies if this has been mentioned before) I went to amazon.co.uk today to order "The Season Has Arrived". I seem to recall being told that it was coming out on November 12th. According to amazon.co.uk it is being released in November 19th, although the US import copy is available on the 13th. hmmmm ......... So, I went to the B&S band site, and what should I find but a message saying THE NEW SINGLE IS CALLED "WAKING UP TO US" AND IS COMING OUT ON NOVEMBER 26th! (Same b-sides by the look of it, different a-side, obviously) Am I really out of the loop? What happened to "The Season Has Arrived"? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Very queer. Also, according to the (not terribly reliable but better than nothing) amazon.co.uk website, an album called "Storytelling" (presumably the soundtrack to the film of the same name) is being released on November 13th in the US. No UK release date. (I remember when Jeepster used to keep me informed about these sorts of things through their mailing list. I don't think I've had a Jeepster email in close to a year ...) OK, OK, so this sure is anal stuff to be posting about ... I just feel like the kid at school who is the only one in the whose class to know some big important secret. (sigh) ____________________________________- onward ...... New Sodastream is *excellent* I know I said that in a post a week or so ago, but truth be told, I'd only listened to it once when I posted saying how good it was. I mean, I *knew* it was going to be good, I was just a wee bit enthusiastic is all. Wedding plans are driving me to drink ..... Confirmed tracklist for wedding ceremony is as follows ..... Entrance: Song To The Siren: Tim Buckley Singing of the register: Northern Sky: Nick Drake Exitus: Wouldn't It be Nice: The Beach Boys Rockin' OK, it's late ...... if *anyone* call fill me in on all this B&S stuff, I'd love to know ... I feel like I've just come out of a coma. Lawrence. PS - favourite song title of all time, this week "Are you STILL evil when you're sleeping?" The Siddeleys. Lawrence Mikkelsen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 5 11:48:10 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 11:48:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I wish I can speak Icelandic Message-ID: Hey ya sinister people i saw sigur ros at the radiohead gig in oxford and i too was incedibly impressed.they are just beautiful... but i do fel that the crowd were horrible to them...stupid little kids ripping jonsi during svefn-g-englar. anyhows i am goin to see hefner on the 20th..and my friend leanne lent me dead media today so i wanna listen to it soon. uh..yeah..umm stay sinister *hugs to all* rich im not living im just killing time >>> "Ian Rivamonte" 10/05/01 07:49am >>> Hello Sinister, I just came back from the Sigur Ros show at the Warfield here in ever so lovely San Francisco. They were absolutely amazing! Although, seeing them at the same venue where I saw Belle and Sebastian is kinda weird. To me, Belle and Sebastian will always own the Warfield and everytime I think of the Warfield I will always associate Belle and Sebastian. If anyone gets a chance to see Sigur Ros play in their local neighborhood, I suggest you do so. And about Hefner, love Hefner. Never heard the new album except for the song Dead Media. Promising at best. From: > Welcome, Mr. Ian. . . but first things first. I won't call you names out > loud, but indeed, they're ricocheting around my brain. Lucky dog. Next > order of business, where were you at the picnic? Unless my recall is failing > utterly. . . surely even a Sinisterine-in-training could pop his head up for > good measure. . . well. Next time, buster. . . you'd better be there! Unfortunately, I didn't even know there was a Sinister picnic Shannon. I just came on Sinister and never knew about picnics and such. So cute! I will make it the next time around. But anyways, I have to rest my ears. And I will play the MiniDisc game some other time. Take care. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 14:59:44 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 06:59:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chicago...again...and a random love note In-Reply-To: <16b.1ec301d.28ee9827@aol.com> Message-ID: hi everyone. greetings. how y'all doin? i hope you are toadie. i am getting so excited about our lil meeting, i hope it actually happens. meeting at my place would be swell...so long as none of you break or steal anything. but feel free to leave gobs of cash on the pillows if you should desire. :o) ya know what else occurred to me, we can also take the train. just an idea. from what elise said she is coming with 3 people in addition to herself. who else is coming? any of you out there? i got an email the other day from someone who lives in the town i lived in for 20 of my 24 years. she lives about 10 minutes away from where i live now. weird. anyway. that's it. i feel badly for posting all of this to the list. i9 highly doubt that the sinisters in zaire care to read about our chicago musings but it's the only form of communication that we have. oh well. sinisters are cool people, im sure the people in the north pole arent complaining too much about us trying to suss out plans via the list.....im sure they understand :o) 5 days til travis!!!!!!!!!!!!! eek!! my head is gonna pop off im so excited!!! "the mistake we made was never having planned to fall in love, luv.." ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 13:28:45 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:28:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: Job hunting starts proper on Monday. Message-ID: Summer in winter, Winter in springtime. I heard a sexy bird sing "Come to London and you'll be just fine". I've spent the summer, wasting.. ...time in dead end jobs. So come that I still feel so free. I spent a summer wasting, Now and then I was blue without compare. A collection of brill memorys and music are what I have to show for. Many weeks of meeting fresh new faces, Many weeks of car-auction-weekends, Many weeks of train station confusion Just the one weekend of picnicing all night. Summer in winter, winter in springtime I heard this bird sing everything will be fine. ----------------------------- Bloomin' well hope it will be 'fine', I reckon this may be my last post for some time as I'm going to live in London (for at least this week) Excited and worried with no place of my own/work as yet but I am rather set on going now so, hey! Oh, today I woke up to a rabbit in need of serious nourishment and I didn't have any idea where Mabel's food was at the minute so she was a victim of an experimental home made meal in the shape of...... James's *Luxury* bunny-filler. Take five digestive and five Co-op country crunch bicky's and crumble. Finely chop three carrots and one turnip. Mix thoughly and serve with two lettice leaves and 320ml of the finest water a garden tap can deliver. Disclaimer, This is intended only as a "keep your bunny alive when you can't find her food" and not to become a daily diet, ok. ----------------------------------------- On more *impresive* note.. I got escorted off an N,C,P multi story on wednesday for taking pictures. How rock 'n' roll is that. I have to admit the car park guard/entertainer probably had a point as he explained "this car park is 34 years old and there has never been anyone injured here in all that time" That taking my pictures rested upon developing a sudden "art over personal safety" mentality got him a little twitchy. Hey I still managed to get some pretty mega snaps mind. If you've read this FAR your an absolute STAR. More scared of heights thanever before, James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 17:52:31 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:52:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: hmm Message-ID: hi again. stine again. a cloudy rainy day in chicago leaves me so very sleepy. on top of which it is friday...most of us are shagged out from work by friday. geesh. in my last post i meant to make some comments about the love thread thats been going round the list, but i never got to it. perhaps another time. right now i have really got nothing to say. olivia and i (shes the 10 month old i take care of) are hanging out at my house...hers is being remodelled so we were evicted for the time being....so here we are hanging out till it is time to pick up the divine miss em, the 4 year old i take care of. what a totally boring day. i hope you are having a far more sinister day than i, cuz i am bored to tears. tomorrow i am supposed to go to a punkin farm with my friend sharon. that should be fun. ive never been to a punkin farm. hayrides, punkins, apple cider, the whole nine yards. should be fun...sans rain of course. oi. so i dunno. i guess i will go now. i just wanted to say hello and kill some time. i hope you are having a far less eeyore day than i. fish face ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Fri Oct 5 16:03:41 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:03:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Clearing up the confusion Message-ID: <00f701c14dae$ed907480$1584fc3e@neil> Righty-ho, "Waking Up To Us" and "The Season Has Arrived" are the same song. We just couldn't decide what to call it. Except we have now, and it's the former. It is coming out on November 26th. It was to have been earlier, but what with all the shennanigans recently we never got the artwork finished in time, and we would be in Japan for the next date and unavailable for any promotion that might come along, so we've gone for the 26th. Which won't change now! (Unless the post office fail to find the artwork which has gone missing in the post!) It's a sair fecht. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Fri Oct 5 16:14:36 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:14:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: property of no one Message-ID: <20011005151436.63429.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> hello, I haven't posted properly in almost two months. I've had this growing suspicion that I may be turning into a lurker, but I don't want that, obviously. lurkers don't get any... or is that the other way around? well, I'm not getting any regardless, so I suppose it doesn't matter much. I'm applying to grad schools for next year, and I was planning on going to school in britain, and now with this whole terrorism war stuff I want to get out of the states more than ever. not only do we have an idiot for a president, but now stuff is getting blown up too. my roommate wants to move to new zealand and raise sheep, and really, I can't blame him. more than ever, I just want to get my masters, find a job at some small university town, and cloister myself away with students and books. the real world used to scare me, but now it terrifies me. even my desire to stay in new york in waning. I don't know where I'll be in a year's time, and that fact is oddly comforting. maybe I'll go to canada. I meant this to be a light-hearted post. I failed at that... sorry. I'll leave on a happier note: I want a basset hound... I wish my school would let us have pets. puppies are so cute! tweeness abounds. oh, um. I heard "marx and engels" for the first time this week. it's quite good, although I can't make out the words. cheers, eric ps note to ken chu: if I end up in nottingham, we'll have to meet for a drink and discuss our lack of pulling skills. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From murmurer at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 16:33:06 2001 From: murmurer at xxx.com (Chris Ball) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:33:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: offtopic: stay away from audiogalaxy.....k? References: Message-ID: <002101c14db3$0b5ccb40$fa0a9c18@ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com> Hi, I'm a professional lurker on this list....but....I figured I could help Kin Woo and the rest with their AudioGalaxy problems..... The AudioGalaxy software comes bundled with a 3rd party application called "web-hancer"....it is an EVIL piece of spy-ware that collects information about you and sends it off to marketing firms.....now....what makes it a REAL bastard is that if you attempt to un-install AudioGalaxy (and therefore Webhancer) WebHancer reconfigures your "Winsock" thus making it impossible to re-connect to the internet.....now....that may not be Mr. Woo's issue......but.....it is something to watch out for (at least in the older version of AudioGalaxy that I had)......the only solution I could find was to re-install WebHancer and make sure it doesn't load when your computer starts up... I'm sorry if this is all WWAAAYYY too techie....I'm no computer master by any means....just thought I could help.... I really enjoy reading all of your posts and such...... take care kids.... oh... and if you need more info......look at this site: http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/5OP022K40E.html There is also alot of info about this issue on the web.... Hope I could help.......take care.... (cb) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kin WOO" To: "Sinister mailing list" Sent: October 5, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: Sinister: offtopic: alternatives to audiogalaxy? > my dears, > i know audiogalaxy is something rather akin to manna from heaven at this > point in our post- napster lives, but something odd has happened to mine > and for some reason i can't seem to reconnect, no matter how many times i > have tried! so, i am sending a plea out to all you tech- savvy people out > there- does anyone know of any program which is as good if not, even > better than adiogalaxy from which to d/l mega- cool mp3's? where the > people have impeccable taste in music, as they do on audiogalaxy? i tried > kazaa > but that sucked. ditto bearshare, for some reason!! i am desperate, i need > my mp3 fix, and audiogalaxy is sending me up the freaking wall! > > thanks, > kin, pulling his hair out in WA > > > "Consciousness is a terrible curse" > Jeffrey Eugenides > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 18:28:28 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 10:28:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: property of no one In-Reply-To: <20011005151436.63429.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: grad school huh? best of luck with that. some day i'll have a degree....one class at a time it takes awhile though. i can't say i blame you for not wanting to be in the states, however, i don't know that i would consider england safe from terrorism. the ira are constantly bombing things and killing people. certainly not to the degree of the wtc, but thinking that terrorist attacks only happen here is sort of silly. on top of which, britain is an ally so they are just as much a target of terrorists as we are. they will attack anyone whø helps us if it comes to that. as for president bush. well, i didn't vote for him. i hated both he and al gore. however, i have been very pleased with how he has handled this whole thing. i think he has done an amazing job. its funny, with most crises that occur, whomever is president can just refer to our history and see what other presidents had done in similar situations....bush didn't have that luxury. this country, or the world for that matter, has never seen such a horrendous act of terrorism (none that i can think of in the rest of the world, certainly none here) so he had nothing to base anything on. i dunno. just my opinion. i just thank god that its not gore....that guy is so clueless. i mean, i realise people tease bush all of the time, but i dont think hes an idiot, i just think hes more like a regular guy with no pretenstion and such. gore is just sooooo shady and changes his opinion to whomever he is speaking. i suppose most politicians do that. i just hate gore to the very core of my being. anyway. i shall leave you now. take care "the grass is always greener on the other side. baby's got a new car that you wanna drive, when the time is coming on you've gotta stay alive. we all live under the same sky. we all will live. we all will die. there is no wrong. there is no right and a circle only has one side. " ~stine on 10/5/01 8:14 AM, eric the half a bee at cheesebunhead at yahoo.co.uk wrote: > hello, > > I haven't posted properly in almost two months. I've > had this growing suspicion that I may be turning into > a lurker, but I don't want that, obviously. lurkers > don't get any... or is that the other way around? > well, I'm not getting any regardless, so I suppose it > doesn't matter much. > > I'm applying to grad schools for next year, and I was > planning on going to school in britain, and now with > this whole terrorism war stuff I want to get out of > the states more than ever. not only do we have an > idiot for a president, but now stuff is getting blown > up too. my roommate wants to move to new zealand and > raise sheep, and really, I can't blame him. more than > ever, I just want to get my masters, find a job at > some small university town, and cloister myself away > with students and books. the real world used to scare > me, but now it terrifies me. even my desire to stay in > new york in waning. I don't know where I'll be in a > year's time, and that fact is oddly comforting. maybe > I'll go to canada. > > I meant this to be a light-hearted post. I failed at > that... sorry. I'll leave on a happier note: I want a > basset hound... I wish my school would let us have > pets. puppies are so cute! tweeness abounds. > > oh, um. I heard "marx and engels" for the first time > this week. it's quite good, although I can't make out > the words. > > cheers, > eric > > ps note to ken chu: if I end up in nottingham, we'll > have to meet for a drink and discuss our lack of > pulling skills. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From singer at xxx.ie Fri Oct 5 16:46:11 2001 From: singer at xxx.ie (Brian Scanlan) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:46:11 +0100 Subject: [OT] Re: Sinister: property of no one In-Reply-To: ; from toadie291@home.com on Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 10:28:28AM -0700 References: <20011005151436.63429.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011005164611.A25564@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 10:28:28AM -0700, toadie291 at home.com wrote: > i don't know that i would > consider england safe from terrorism. the ira are constantly bombing things > and killing people. You need to read some recent history. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_539000/539391.stm The IRA have been on ceasefire since July 1997, the troubles up north haven't really spilled over to mainland Britain - Certainly not in terms of deaths of random civilians in a few years. You're more in danger of being hit by a bus or udner threat from bin Laden and friends. Brian. -- "Our idea of relaxing is all too often to plop down in front of the television set and let its pandering idiocy liquefy our brains". - Bill Watterson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 17:33:33 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:33:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: But thinne it lay, by colpons, oon by oon Message-ID: Someone wrote awhile back that Sinister has been a source of comfort for many during the fear of the terrorist attacks, and a former listees website:http://www.arigoldfilms.com/WTC.html has been one of the better things I've read in contrast to all the numbing and terrifying sensory overload in the papers and on the t.v. Not meaning to return to that tired old argument, but when I was returning my Strokes cd, the record store boy thought I was being foolish because apparently, they are pulling that album due to a New York City song on it and it's becoming rare? I don't know anything about record value or the exchanges on ebay, I just like to live vicariously through my older brother's tales. ("..and then I sold all off your dad's Beatles albums on the apple label")When I first bought the record it was out of a big fate pile (no endangered species) but that's what record boy said, so thought it might be of interest to some of you. It's seems like it's been a while since I bought a record that I liked almost all the way through and not just two songs. Thank goodness my special edition Lloyd Cole's Greatest Hits arrived on my desk the other day. My Associates cd also came in. I've seen their name on Sinister before, but I think it always just registered as The Association with my brain, and I didn't pay much attention (not that I don't like Never My Love) but I think I'm scaring my mother by playing Club Country too much and singing in that banshee voice "refrigeration keeps you young I'm told". It's such a fun song but the lyrics are quite creepy. I love his breathy voice at that one bit, but "every breath you breathe belongs to someone else" eep. Now don't be too hard on Pauline L. Shivers, we need all voices on this list, the gentle and the international jetsetter alike. She makes me giggle and giggles are good. I suppose I should put my necessary 'I love autumn' comment in too. :) We're going to the farm for Canadian Thanksgiving and it will be lovely. I'm going to make Real Tiramisu. You just don't notice the changing leaves in the city like in the gatineau hills. But Arctic Woman has warned me not to go too deeply into the forest - the drought has brought out the bears. But Mama! Struan is trapped in the secret cave with evil Barnacle Bear, what on earth shall we do? I need to ride behind him on the motorbike (hands wrapped tightly around leather-jacket body, face huddled from the wind) since Lucy stirred such a lovely image. I've got to read the 'Mabinogi' now, even if I can't pronounce it! Kisses, Genevieve p.s. Sorry these pictures aren't of a pique-nique, so they'll probably only interest a few of you, but here are some London/Scotland pictures: http://photos.yahoo.com/pookiebooca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 19:14:39 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:14:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: if you don't cry, you just don't feel it deep enough... Message-ID: so today, after college... i got invited to this place called 'bucks'. bucks is a dive. the sign outside is really bad. it's all crumbly and the windows are all boarded up. i don't know anyone properly at college so i said i'd only be drinking cokes... but they baught me silly alchopops. so i drank alchopops. lots of them. they're so crap. so after my umm...seventh i'm drunk. i started talking to everyone and apparently i bumped into some bloke and told him to fuck off. so as i leave he comes after me and punches the wall and threatens to 'do me in'. me being very scared apologised profusely and he jumps on me. luckily he didn't actually do any damage. all his friends pull him off me and apologise to me. i didn't know what to do. so i asked him if his hand is ok, after all he punched a wall and his friend told me to go before he 'did me in'. so to conclude, me being completely silly apparently managed to annoy a lot of people who apparently were going to 'do me in'. ack well. i only wanted a coke. i feel bad now. on the bus home, one of the people i went with told me it was actually him who told the guy to fuck off, not me. i got angry and got off one stop before my normal stop and walked home. in the rain. college is rubbish. well, i've finished with that episode of my life. last night i went to go and see new order. at the manchester apollo. it was such a good gig, lots of people in a small venue dancing and generally being nice. one thing i found strange was my movement. well, i started off standing pretty much near the front, and i'm sure i didn't move but about twenty minutes before the end i noticed that i moved at least 5 meteres back without intently moving backwards. has anyone else noticed that at gigs, you tend to move without meaning to? --- after reading jenowl's post about listening to dead media on the bus, i decided to listen to it on the bus. i actually quite like it now. 'alan bean' reminds me of the bus shelter that always gets smashed up in shaw and 'home' reminds me of the crappy 'modern' new bus station in oldham. it's always full of students who have nothing better to do than do crappy graffiti and listen to crappy music. i was going to go out tonight, but i feel really bad. i keep vowing to never drink again but i always do. i really hate it. ahh well. the white stripes have apparently announced a uk tour, i might go. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 21:17:41 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 13:17:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister@missprint.org In-Reply-To: <20011005170731.A63080@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> Message-ID: on 10/5/01 9:07 AM, Brian Scanlan at singer at redbrick.dcu.ie wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 11:02:04AM -0700, toadie291 at home.com wrote: >> actually brian i am aware of that. however i was merely trying to >> illustrate that seeking refuge from terrorism isn't really going to be >> effective... > > You could go to Scandinavia. Not too much up there. > >> .least of all in england where there is history of terrorist >> attacks in very recent history. on top of which there have been more than >> one incident in which the ira went against the agreements of their cease >> fire. > > The IRA have carried out the odd punishment shooting in Northern Ireland > (which hasn't breached the terms of their ceasefire - the British NI minister > has the final call on who's broken their ceasefire - It's a wierd situation, > but, well, it works) but have certainly not carried out activities in mainland > UK since the start of their ceasefire. brian, i think you are reading way too much into what i said. my point was basically that people who are determined to kill masses of innocent people are going to do it anywhere...not just in the us. things like the wtc attack happen all over the world. again, not to the same dramatic degree, but that doesnt make it any less horrible. as for scandanavia. you could go there, but why on earth would you? :o) no offense to our scandanavian sinisters :o) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingbelle at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 21:05:26 2001 From: kissingbelle at xxx.com (Belle The Pic-nicing Dog) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 20:05:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Dundee Picnic Message-ID: Those of you who know me may already know I quite like picnics. Those of you who don't, I'm telling you I do!! If you don't believe me see for yourself: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/Belle.html I live in a place called Dundee. I have always thought to myself "wouldn't it be nice to have a picnic in Dundee and meet a whole load of lovely people here?" I told the girl, that I live with this, and she said "hmmm... I don't think people would come to Dundee, Belle". I couldn't see why not. I mean who wouldn't want to travel on a train to a new and exciting city. And Dundee has it all! Pigeons, pubs and parks. Well you will never guess what? Someone else aggreed with me and she e-mailed the girl and told her so! I tried not to gloat too much about that. Anyway now it seems that the girl I live with, and this other, clever girl with the good ideas are going to arrange a picnic in Dundee!! They tell me that it will be on the 20th or 21st of October, depending upon when people want to come. And they say that we probably won't sit outside with my friends the pigeons. It seems they don't like the idea of being out in the rain much. I can't understand it. I have great fun running around getting wet and then rolling over in the mud. They also tell me that people might be coming from a place even I haven't visited called Aberdeen. So hopefully there will be some people I haven't met as well as some one I have. I really hope a lot of people do decide to come. If they do I promise to kiss them all! If you think this sounds like a good idea or you have any ideas which you think will make it better you should e-mail one of the girls personally (I don't want people who can't come to get jealous... afterall it is a picnic in Dundee!!) Here are their e-mails addresses: u07lec at abdn.ac.uk or sunnie_set at hotmail.com Or if you like you can e-mail and I will make sure I pass the message on! I hope to see some of you soon. Many kisses Belle PS The girl says she would like to thank Dimitra for helping her promote this picnic. And for thinking that Dundee is lovely! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Fri Oct 5 22:58:15 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:58:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't leave for Hong Kong baby Message-ID: <002801c14de8$d6f7ccc0$f94326d9@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, On Wednesday I went to the post office, and posted my mum away by first class mail. Only joking :-) It was economy class mail... the post offices in London are huuge! It was so big they split it into 4 different counters, they call them "Terminals", which sounds very scary. Farewell was short but sweet, a bit like me really. I waited I think 21 years for this, I turned the table around on my mum and asked her if she has got everything, did you bring your passport? Did you bring tissues in case you sneeze? Did you bring my phone number so you can call if you forget something? And for God's sake give me a call when you arrive! Wow, no one told me that being a fussy mum is so much fun! If I knew that before I'd do that more often. So, as soon as my mother was gone I am already on a hot date, met up with Stacey who was visiting London from Greece that day, had food and drinks, mostly drinks, on her part. Talked about loads of things including how my brain was warped by aliens with a laser beam to the back of my neck. Hehe, then, once again had fussy mother fun before we parted on the tube. Then went home, which is now totally empty. Too tired to feel anything, just went straight to bed.. needed sleep bad so maybe it was good that the house was deadly silent. Work next day was basically dossing, cos I was too tired to work properly after having only 5 hours of sleep. Reflecting on an eventful week, which saw me being in 5 cities, 1 airport and a heck of a lot of people's company, then thinking about what living alone will be like from now on. The first night alone was fun, without any kind of supervision I was singing along to music real loud, and the place looked considerably less tidy than before... cooked my first dinner in 2 years and it tasted pretty good. Tonight marks the first weekend on my lonesome, I was still enjoying my own company but whilst I was washing up the thought suddenly hit me that I'm on my own now, it wasn't really a sad or happy thought, it was just a new thing that happened really. Oh yeah, and my dinner from last night has gone off.. hehe first time for everything. Mum called back saying she's arrived, and nagged about things, but the nagging sounds a lot more exotic now it comes all the way from Hong Kong. Might do some recording tomorrow now that I can sing without being embarrassed... Oh by the way, girls, now that I'm living on my own I'm ready for you to come round for a cup of Red Bull. ;-) Loud echoes and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 00:31:54 2001 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita 99) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 01:31:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Sodastream gig in London cancelled Message-ID: Well that is what said the guy at the 12 bar when I rang up to book. Apparently the whole tour is. So there you go, if you didn't know you can still cry a bit. Hello, I am back. Well I wasn't really gone, I was just being silent. Sometimes it is good to be silent. Last week I bought this t-shirt when you have a velcro bit at the front and you can write things with velco letters. So yesterday I went to Sainsbury with "i like cheese" written on my chest. Some people giggled and some people looked at me in a weird way. Imagine if I had written "i am french", I might have got into trouble. Moulin Rouge is the worse movie I have seen so far this year, if you can avoid it please do so. You will avoid as well bad singing, bad dancing, bad covers and more bad things. Of course if you want to see Nicole Kidman in knickers, this is a different matter. Still no employers are willing to employ me, I am sure it has got something to do with my Frenchness. But I mean, if I did smell like garlic, I would be aware of it, surely? Come at the Betsey next Friday, it will be entertaining. I am addicted to Destiny's Child, don't hate me. Elenaxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 12:39:11 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 04:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: If my family tree goes back to the creation... Message-ID: <20011006113911.919043ECC@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From toadie291 at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 16:00:38 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 08:00:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: all apologies Message-ID: hi everyone. i just wanted to apologise to all of you. yesterday brian and i were discussing the ira and so on a bit. when replying to him i must have hit reply instead of reply to sender...so our off list conversation got posted to the list. im sorry about that everyone. i meant to only send it to brian and not occupy list space and flood your mailboxes with an offlist conversation. also, when i said something about "why would anyone want to go to scandanavia" i was TOTALLY kidding. im sorry if some of you took that literally and personally but i was joking. anyway. thats all i got. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 19:42:01 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Give yourself up to the allure of catcher in the rye Message-ID: <20011006184201.3496.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Helloooooo Sinister! The fall weather lately in Southern California is GORGEOUS! It's still very summer-like, but the difference is that the temperature has been *perfect* in the heat of the afternoon. Not too hot, but warm enough to not need a sweater. The other day there were brown leaves blowing on the ground everywhere, I could smell the stale eucalyptus, and the sunlight was so golden and slanty that it was practically neon. �The sky seemed like it was powdered in on velvet. As the sun sank, the marine layer drifted in from the coast and created a filter that made the sunset easier to catch a glimpse of. The swirls of gray fog along the bottom of the blushing pink skyline greedily swallowed up the hovering copper disk, like waves lapping over some beautiful jewel glowing in the ocean. I like to fantasise sometimes that the sky is really the ocean and the ocean is really the sky, but my head starts spinning and then I wish I were somersaulting down the grassy hills in the park by my parents' house and feeling the itch of the grass down my back, so much like the tags on the new clothes my mother would dress me in every fall... I love this season, but it somehow always makes me sad, like it does many of you. I notice that a lot of major shifts happen in my life in the autumn, so that could have more to do with it than the weather. The weather makes me happy. The weather makes me feel like I know what it's like to be in love. On the subject of love, true love, hope for love, disbelief in love, etc... I think that I used to be a cynic when it comes to love, but now that I'm older I have a new perspective on it. I think when I was younger I thought about love as being an everlasting state that was of mythical preportions. But now I think that people fall in love when they are ready for it and they meet the right person. But I think that love comes and goes and sometimes because you love somebody, it doesn't mean that you won't make stupid choices or decisions that won't hurt each other, hopefully not consciously. Sometimes you break up because of life choices, not because you don't love someone. Sometimes you make these choices because your love for that other person doesn't outweigh what you need to do for yourself. And what they need to do for themselves doesn't match your needs. It's a lot of work and you make yourself extremely vulnerable. But along with love comes trust so you can feel comforted in the knowledge that you both will understand each other and know each other more intimately than anyone else. I am not in love. I don't love myself most of the time, and I think that is a big factor in finding love. And I don't think it's possible to love somebody when you don't make room for it and if you don't find someone who has made room to love you, too. I thought of this the other night whilst driving home from Hollywood. The Faint concert was sold out, but I didn't mind because I took the long way home and listened to my tape of unrequited and sad love songs. it was so peaceful to follow the curves of Sunset Blvd through Bel-air and Beverly, up past UCLA and around bend after bend, just driving and thinking. Singing harmonies along to "There is a Light that Never Goes Out" by the Smiths. Pressing my arm up against the glass and feeling it's coolness dissipated by the heat of my body. "Simple Things" by our beloved B&S...said everything and more. I sang out because it's not too late, I had nowhere to be and "Talk Show Host" by Radiohead just melted away everything and my life was beautiful again... I could make room for love, I think. I hope I feel this way tomorrow. I'm going to post again then. Just a warning! Love to you all, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wffej at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 20:24:16 2001 From: wffej at xxx.com (jeffrey way blast off wurtz) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 15:24:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: strokes in seatac Message-ID: is anyone going to the strokes show in tacoma friday? just wanted to know if anyone knows tacoma and wanted to get absolutly waste..er have a nice cocktail and chat before and after the show. drop me a line yo-jeff new york city really has it all, oh yeah-the ramones _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 20:54:55 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 20:54:55 Subject: Sinister: Wedding bells are ringing!!! Message-ID: Let it be shouted from the rooftops that Rachel Grapenut and Little Boy Colin have been successfully matched by sinister's own Ms. Crush. The wedding invitations will be sent promptly. It'll be a small wedding in the countryside or perhaps on the beach. We will not be registered at any major department stores. Instead, we ask that you paint us a picture or make us a mix tape. This is a very special time for us. Everyone should ignore Rachel's last post when she declared that she wasn't in love. She was too shy to admit that her heart blazes eternally for me. Thank you everyone for your encouragement during the arduous wooing stage. I feel silly...so very silly, but I'm also glowing with a happy kind of love that falls like so many autumn leaves. I can't imagine what Rachel's parents will say when they realize that her new hunk is a country boy from Kentucky. I hope they like me. To everyone who will be at the Picnic, I will miss you. Don't bring Ribena because the bees will annoy you to no end. Don't bring alcahol because Kirsten will...trip over barbed wire. Love to everyone- especially my crush, Colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 23:11:44 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wedding bells are ringing!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011006221144.17268.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Colin meant the fruitloopy Rachel, unless he's got something going on with grape-nut that I don't know about, which could be likely since she's soooo cute and sweet and all! !Viva Rachels! And Honorary Rachels! Sheesh, what *will* my parents say!? It's true, we've double-crushed eachother! Yippeee! Love to you all and especially Colin Smartly Dressed! Rachel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Oct 6 23:59:28 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:59:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Hey glumface, next time there's a rainbow, look up. You'll feel better... Message-ID: <26.1c5ed64c.28f0e6d0@aol.com> Hewwo, How's tricks? Ribena is the ultimate. I love it so much. It's like alcohol only much much better cause it doesn't turn you into a psycho if you take too much too often. I think I'm learning what its like to be a posse girl. The good parts anyway. You know the parts where posse girls don't get beaten up and people are nice to them quite often. It's a good thing if you don't take it for granted. That's the problem. Posse girls take it for granted. I'm still reeling from the news that some second year boys apparantly have a crush on me cause they said so. It's surreal. Last year the second years spat on me and threw stones at me, and now they don't. They just walk about behind me and look at me. It's unnerving but it beats getting globs of plegm out your hair. School is odd. It's like somewhere, up in the sky, some fairy godmother or something flipped a switch and turned everything on its head. Everything is all sparkly and new and the world is not just a grate place, it's a grate place for me to live in. I even enjoy double maths on a friday. It's like a feeling I used to get, when I was small. I had this doll that was absolutely the most beautiful thing in the world, and her name was Julie. I'd got it for my birthday and she came with a pink frock, dolly shoes and a bunch of plastic flowers, and her hair was arranged in the most perfect ringlets which were all glossy and brown and she was perfect. And I hardly ever played with her, because I didn't need to, just looking over onto the chest of drawers where she sat, and knowing that such an amazing thing was mine, and I couldn't have been as crap as they all said at school because I was allowed to have this one thing that was sweller than anything, and I had this feeling that I had a place. I must have been pretty materialistic when I was 9 but I never did show any signs of becoming a communist, or a nun. But that's what everything is like now, and when I think of how it is, although its quite ordinary, I get that feeling I used to get when I saw Julie sitting over on my chest of drawers with her plastic bunch of purple flowers. Except for one day my friend asked if we could play with her, and I didn't want to, but I said yes anyway because she was a lot stronger than me. And she pulled off the little dolly shoes, because she said they were stupid, and got them lost. And she got smudges all over the frock and unpicked the embroidery. And she undid her hair and backcombed all the ringlets into a frizzy mess, because ringlets were uncool. And she pulled off one of her legs, in a way that it couldn't be fixed, because she said it was a stupid doll anyway and we should play with barbie and ken, except she'd ruined them as well, so we couldn't. So after she'd left I cried, and I had a little funeral for Julie, and put her in a shoebox in the back of my wardrobe, and wished that everyone else wasn't stronger than me. So now when I get that feeling, of being untouchable, I keep thinking of that doll, and then I wait for that girl to show up and mess up all the ringlets and pull the legs off everything that's going right. Except she can't. No one can, because this time round I don't have to let anyone play if I don't want to because I don't get scared when people twist my arm up around my back any more. And it's swell. Even though that was quite a long story, that never really had a point except for my friend used to be a moke and now she isn't. She isn't my friend, I mean which some people are saying is part of the reason for my happy lack of bruises. You know the song stars of track and field? I like it. It reminds me of cappuchino and cordoroy and other indie snob things. Indie snobbery's grate. Don't knock it. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_t_opher at xxx.com Sun Oct 7 16:29:16 2001 From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (chris_t_opher) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:29:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "he kept withdrawing and withdrawing and withdrawing until he just disappeared" References: <200110051818.TAA07199@missprint.org> Message-ID: <004601c14f50$5a5ff2a0$a9c57ad5@gsh> heylo i seem to have become a lurker. i didnt use to be but its just less pressure this way. but, to keep up my twice-yearly pattern, here i am again. tv in the uk is great this weekend. Blade and (the funny bits of) Austin Powers last night, the Thomas Crown Affair right now, the Usual Suspects tonight. its meant that i havent really left the house. so, thankyou tv-networks for saving me money in the long-run. the soundtrack for the thomas crown affair is very belle and sebby actually. i could easily imagine them covering a couple of the songs ive heard so far. just like the Graduate. which makes me think..... if b+s were around 35 years ago, would they have been chart-toppers? theyd definitely be mainstream, wouldnt they? much-delayed reference but im sorry i didnt make it to the manchester picnic. my house is probably closer than anyone else's (especially ken's) to the picnicking place but i didnt hear about it until it was finishing :o( i promise if someone organises another, i shall attend (*hinthint*) a couple of music-related things.... the hefner album is good. maybe cheesy, but good. i mean, its not exactly baxendale, is it? :o) the sodastream album is grate! cant wait for their european tour. someone else (stankin, i think) said it but if they are playing even *remotely* near you, make the effort. and finally, ive borrowed the strokes album (finally) and i agree that some of their stuff is grate. but they could have compacted it all into an EP, couldnt they? or would that have just led to *even more* hype in the end? all hype, no brains... chris ps. im watching two squirrels fighting over territory. fun! ------------------------------------------ http://www.lostharbour.org ------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sun Oct 7 18:51:07 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: There's a lot to be done while your head is still young Message-ID: <20011007175107.22674.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Hellooooooo Sinister!! There have been quite a few great posts recently! I want to write about some of the things I've read from you lovely people lately! Stine talked about a bad experience she had in a bookstore. That altercation between the outspoken anti-gay lady and Stine sounds very alarming. Ignorance gets out of control all too fast! But I have to applaud you, Stine, for standing up to that ignorant lady, that was super cool of you!! Also your story about being in the movie theater had me laughing so hard! And then, Richard Gillanders posted about a similar experience he had in the movie theater with his family, but then maybe he was really there, and maybe not... and I think at that point I was nearly in tears, as I usually am when reading Richard Gillanders' posts--you're so damn funny!!! Now I see why Kirsten and Mandee adore you so much! My favorite line from Richard's post: "you really find out who your friends are when you get an unauthorised haircut." I am curious what that haircut might look like, and what it is that makes it unauthorised!? Did somebody come up behind you and cut your hair when you weren't looking? Or did somebody's sister do it with some old dull left-handed scissors in their backyard? I just hope it's really short on top and long in the back with racing stripes shaved into the sides of your head and in your eyebrows to match. Now THAT'S what I call an unauthorised haircut! And dear Archel Toast posted "if you could have just one track from each single/ep and two from each album, what would your final list look like?" Aside from being a scribbled up mess, mine would go something like this: You're Just a Baby I Don't Love Anyone Get me Away from Here, I'm Dying Judy and the Dream of Horses String Bean Jean Photo Jenny Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie Sleep the Clock Around Simple Things Slow Graffitti The Wrong Girl Family Tree Legal Man Jonathan David ...but, man oh man, it's hard to decide! Miss Laura Llew said "I like tormenting myself through mixtapes and lack of love. It's a hobby"... Yay, I'm not the only one who does it, then?! And Laura, you know WE love you, right? Shannon started out a delicious description of the fall weather in her 'hood with the line "So. Fall has arrived. Lovely, beautiful, aching fall." and I just thought, how grate is that?! Really lovely, Shannon! Jim Gilmer wrote about riding in the backseat of his friend's car with a girl he was utterly in love with and we're riding around and "it's chilly, the kind of first autumn, end-of-October chill where it feels far colder than it is because you're not used to it yet." This story reminded me of similar experiences and what a dream-like state the weather can send us into, especially in remembering love. A beautiful story, Jim! A big ol' hug to Ian for sharing his grate pics of B&S from the San Francisco show he attended! And I thought what you said about seeing Sigur Ros at the Warfield was so true for me, too: "Although, seeing them at the same venue where I saw Belle and Sebastian is kinda weird." For a long time, any show I went to at the Warfield always reminded me of James in '94, but now I just think of The Verve... I didn't see B&S there, but I'm sure if I did, I'd be feeling the same way you do... I remember in '97 seeing Suede at the El Rey in L.A. and then a week after the tour ended, Gene played there and it was just sort of odd to think that only about a week beforehand, Suede was there. I was *REALLY* (unhealthily) into Suede back then, so I know what you're saying completely. Oh, and welcome to Sinister, Ian! Oh, and Mr. Will Salt said, as if he didn't know that his posts make all the girls weak in the knees "Um, I am? Eep. This sort of thing makes reading my email *so* embarrassing lately :-)" Of course you'd be coy about it, that's what the ladies love!! Thanks for clearing up the Krypton Factor mystery for me, everyone who so kindly jumped to my rescue! Sounds a little intense for our "Rachels v. Wills" competition! Guess what?! I got an e-mail from a SIXTH Rachel!!! This one is actually a "Rachael" and she lives in Australia, but soon to be England! I am not sure as to what her nickname is yet...I suggested Rachael Pancake or Rachael Frosties... but all the same, !Viva Rachels! Shout outs to Rachel Cornflake, Rachel Sunny Side Up, Rachel Grapenut, Archel Toast, Rachael ??, and our new honorary Rachel, Miss Katie Odle, who I lovingly refer to as Katie Cheeriodle, HR. You know what's funny? I don't even *eat* breakfast! Ben reminded us "ooh, new single in 39 days and counting, y'all get excited now, y'hear!" Ooh, I AM EXCITED, Ben!!! How come you don't want any of the Sinister boys moiving into your house, huh? Sure *everybody* wants Kirsten Kenyon to live with them!!! I can't blame you, she's like a pack of gum--double mint! ;) Thanks to Lawrence who broke this news: "THE NEW SINGLE IS CALLED "WAKING UP TO US" AND IS COMING OUT ON NOVEMBER 26th! (Same b-sides by the look of it, different a-side, obviously)" Maybe I'm the only kid in the class who wasn't aware, either, but I'm glad to be told that they changed the name of "The Season Has Arrived" to "Waking Up To Us" I was worried there for a second, too! Call me ignorant, but when is this Storytelling movie coming out, anyway? Anyone know? KEN CHU KEN CHU KEN CHU!! There, I filled my quota! Just kidding! Ken Chu wrote the most charming post about his mum visiting and about living alone and cooking for himself and being able to record without being embarrassed to sing! *I want to pinch your cheeks, you adorable boy!* My favorite quote was "Mum called back saying she's arrived, and nagged about things, but the nagging sounds a lot more exotic now it comes all the way from Hong Kong." Can my mum go to live with yours in Hong Kong? Exotic nagging would be nice for a change!!! Shout outs to my girls in Wisconsin!! Elise and Kirsten, you rock my world!!! Hugs to Mandee and Danny, too! *******Colin boy, don't read this part!************ Last night, I went out with a fellow Sinisterine, Ryan! We saw the movie 'Ghost World' (which Colin and Katie Cheeriodle, HR, recommended) and it was grate! Then we had dinner and talked for a while and it was really fun. Ryan is *such* a nice boy! And ladies, he's real cute!!!!! *******Ryan, don't read this part!***************** *******Colin boy, read this part!****************** Yeah, so when I went out with Ryan last night... it was alright. Isn't it funny how one week you can feel like the biggest loser on earth, going out by yourself on your birthday and the next week you have 2 really super cool boys taking you out/announcing your marriage?! Ahhh, only in the world of Sinister... I think I'll stay! ;) Love to you all--especially my crush, Rachel the fitter, happier fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bowliekidz at xxx.com Sun Oct 7 19:15:32 2001 From: bowliekidz at xxx.com (cre 061) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 18:15:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: **WAS IT YOU SINGING AT RAH??** Message-ID: Hey hey, I have been being slack, suprise suprise. But here I am with a new spelling of my name and I am loving it... I have been reading back, and saw a post by Naffees, I love that boy. (Hi baby, just think Travis) Anyway he was talking about the RAH gig for some reason or another. But it made me think... I think her name was Maria, or something, the girl who sang: ** IF YOU ARE OR YOU KNOW THE GIRL WHO SUNG AT THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL I HAVE IT ALL ON TAPE IF YOU WANT A COPY!!!!** I know I would want it if it was me... I was going to go to the gig Strange Fruit arranged at Spitz last night but I couldn't be arsed. So I went to see "Battle Royale" at the picture instead. Very funny. Hhaha. I dont think it is supposed to be. They acted like they were in a musical, with really exagerated movements. Brilliant. I recommend it to all, unless you dont like violent films.. Acully, go anyway. Fantastic. Anyway, Im off. If you want a copy lady siger mail me on: reynolds_joanna at hotmail.com Dont mail here as I never bloody check it. My pooter is at the menders and I have to use my dads so I just dont bother instead. Mwa, Joie x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Sun Oct 7 21:13:07 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: cappuccino's,ape-men and public schoolboys... Message-ID: <20011007201307.68280.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister :) ...i dont like autumn at all...the worst thing in the world is having to turn the light on at three o clock in the afternoon because its too gloomy to see anything and hearing the rain pelt down on the windows...the situation is worsened when you have a first class hangover,no cigarettes and strange pains in your feet...ah well..the weekend was trying,tiring,sometimes fun but ultimatly unproductive...it involved a slightly bizzare trip to Oxford...one of these spur of the moment things fuelled by a need to escape your surroundings for at least a few hours..belting down the ring road at a silly speed in a decrepit green beetle with the moldy peaches blaring into the night air was extremely fun (especially if you arent the one having to drive)...alas it was downhill from there...slightly naively we expected to find a wealth of lovely,alternative places to drink with decent music and interesting people...of course every city centre in the world is usually crawling with scary people and loud but joyless pubs..how we managed to forget this fact is beyond me...where were the students in scarfs cycling along the pavement? where were the distinguished buildings and elegantly unhinged public schoolboys? I must learn to broaden my horizons..there was actually just KFC's,chain pubs and roadworks...among the ACTUAL people we met were a strange bum in a flat cap who badgered �2.50 out of me for a cappuccino...a cappuccino??...why do i give into these people?...even the down and outs had expensive tastes...there was also the inevitable scattering of tanked up football fans waving their stupid flags and screaming like ape-men who'd just discovered the miracle of fire...so we ended up in a lifeless establishement (i think it was called 'the mitre') with warm beer and tasteful muzak playing at the lowest volume possible without being turned off...a quick stumble round some extremely rich-looking buildings with the sound of affluent student parties ringing above and then it was back home again...but not before discovering that Oxford does in fact have FOUR park and ride areas leading to an hour long round-trip on the bus with some scary people yelling on the bottom deck...thus i discovered four things this weekend... i) i should abandon all preconceptions when travelling ii) i should get out more iii) most places are the same iv) i should stop giving money to rich tramps ...are there any Oxford dwelling sinisterines who could give me information for future reference on nice places to go?...on a scarier and more distressing note, it appears that air strikes have begun in Afghanistan...at least there was some kind of restraint shown and it has been nearly a month since the attacks...but there was still a forlorn hope in my mind that things would just get sorted in time and that the taliban would see sense without the need for military action..pretty stupid i guess...i know that military action was inevitable and probably neccesasary but still....the recent debate about the IRA has just made me think though...terrorism is centuries old...once bin laden is captured or killed and the immediate threat is percieved to be over..things will just go back to normal...not NORMAL because things can never normal again...but i'm scared that all this talk of a war against terrorism is just hot air and it wont be long before another tragedy on the same scale or worse will happen again...oh i've gone on too long..um... ta ta... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Sun Oct 7 23:08:57 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:08:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (not so) dirty dreams Message-ID: dear sinister, around this time last year i sent a post saying how much i liked being on sinister, how cool it was, and how many great people i had met through it. well i think that that is even more true now than it was last year. i have loved everyone i've met through the list and few more so than mr Stuart h who is currently playing rose to my bob (contemporary british tv reference sorry). i had a dream the other night that we were all on a coach (very much like the one on which the york sinister massive travelled to scarborough) and someone was listening to ...miraculous technique. and i was talking to her, and then either Stuart m or Stevie (i'm hazy as to which) jumped on board the coach dressed as robin hood, while another song played in the background. i turned to the girl and she said "oh don't you know, we're in the video for marx and engels, Sarah starts singing in a minute". and that was when i knew it was a dream, because it's Isobel who sings on it, i think. anyway, that would be a cool video, one of the boys dressed as either robin hood or dick turpin, stealing from the rich to give to the poor in a marx and engels styleee. but it wasn't as good a dream as the time they played in central hall and started with the peel session in order, and migmk (Chris) got all irate, and then Richard Colburn was sitting on my windowsill. i dream about music quite a lot. the other night i thought i saw ian brown live and he was really good! i'm going to see pulp twice in november, once in york and once in london. i'm very excited, and my fanzine is going to have a pulp special in honour, even though not everyone likes them. i have spent the weekend making far from lifesize models of my favourite popstars in clay. so far i have Jarvis, Struan and Richey. i think that's enough. i'm *so* jealous of smartly dressed Rachel. anyway, i hope everyone is well and doesn't have a horrible cold like i caught off mr Stuart. pip pip, FB X ps, Ken Chu _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daniel.cederberg at xxx.se Mon Oct 8 01:04:46 2001 From: daniel.cederberg at xxx.se (daniel.cederberg at xxx.se) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 2:04:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Sinisters in Sweden Message-ID: <20011008000446.CLEE11458.fep01-svc.swip.net@[192.168.145.11]> Hi all! I´ve been reading with envy of all the nice and wonderful picnics arranged all around our wonderful world (well, maybe not so wonderful considering the latest turn of events). So I thought it would be nice with some kind of gathering in Sweden for those poor souls that live here. A gathering outdoors sounds like something exceptionally outrageous with these weather conditions and all. but something indoors would be nice. something in stockholm perhaps. or maybe I´m the only lonely poor Swede here? hope not. maybe some nice people from england could come here and visit? no? ah, well, only wishful thinking. I know. By the way, this is my first post. And I liked it. Kind of uncomfortable at first, but then i relaxed and it felt good. I hope i´ll have a chance to post again. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Mon Oct 8 01:10:11 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 02:10:11 +0200 Subject: Sinister: tonight I am on top of the world Message-ID: <003501c14f8d$99ae3b00$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> hello pumpkins! it's my second mail I think. still here, no reason to leave :) I admit, I don't read exactely every word of every mail but I do read most of it and something from every mail not to be unfair to anyone! And I smile, and laugh alot! I had a quite unexciting weekend. The last 7-8 weekends I've been going out every friday, same time, same place, same people, kind of. So staying in this friday made me wonder what day it was all the time. Is it already saturday? oh, it's sunday!? but I haven't done anything yet! But no worries, I'm gonna catch up next weekend :) Cause then Fosca is coming to sweden, yay! And I'm going there, to Stockholm to meet up with a couple of friends I haven't seen for a while, do some shopping and "grab fikes", it'll be grate!! :) Today I met up with my psychology group from school. No no, there's nothing wrong with me, honest! I'm perfectly healthy and stabil (mum, why are there so many green stars and moons spinning around my head?) well...almost perfectly. Anyway, we're doing a job about extreme sports and what makes some people (idiots?) risk their lives to climb mountains, parachute etc. We're gonna talk about this in front of the class on tuesday, and hopefully I won't puke or faint or anything :) I don't know how I got involved in this subject. We started out with one guy - a multi sporter, me - a lazy slacker with big planes and dreams but no ambitions, and another girl - one who said of herself that she was mostly "fluffing" around. I think that scared the guy just a tiny little bit :) But now there's five of us and we're all really involved. We're the best group, I'm sure! I also went to a warehouse today, the only one that was still open when I got downtown, to kill some time while waiting for the train. So I went through their cd collection, not very much of interest. There's a very good swedish band called The Soundtrack Of Our Lives, and I spotted their latest cd there. You know where it was? In the FILM SOUNDTRACK section!! I couldn't help but laugh Haha! And I lost the little respect I might have had for that cd department, shook my head and walked away. The meaning of life? Happiness, I'm sure. That's what we all want, to be happy, to feel good. I know you do so don't deny it! ;) And if we love, we're happy. And if we're loved, we're happy. And if people we care about are happy, we're happy. Happiness must be the solution to everything!.....I think. And if I sometimes feel good about being depressed then for chrissake, just let me be depressed! :) Keep those love hormons running! ;) snogs -AN (the respectless) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 05:41:51 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:41:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name Message-ID: if you've never sat down for an after-shift cocktail and listened to a jolly stoner interpret greek mythology into layman's terms, well, then you're not me. for some reason, i thought about hieronymus bosch today. i remember giggling at my little parochial high school and thinking that if we had to buy brand-new bibles for our biblical archaeology class, they should at least have come with some nice bosch-ian illustrations. maybe i'll publish my own bible someday, complete with bosch paintings and little knock-knock jokes in the footnotes, and a handy ring-bound day planner with photo sleeves sandwiched between malachi and matthew. i'm watching the "cheers" marathon instead of the news, and gosh, do i loathe kirstie alley. but i like nearly everyone else on the show, and the theme song is just SO GOOD. i live on a place called "regal park." it has some swings, and a few slides and monkey bars and there's a path that crosses the road and leads down to a nice little pond full of cute slimy frogs and happy snapping turtles, the occasional fox or heron and, of course, hissing geese. the past few days, driving past regal park...it's just looked really nice, for some reason. maybe i'm just imagining it...but it's...well. it wouldn't be a bad place to live. i promise. i wrote a story about love and puppies. except i didn't make it up. it's the simple story of a pretty brunette and a shaggy-haired boy in a rock band and a beagle named "sexy." and the girl and boy fell in love and went out to restaurants with red curtains and candles on the tables and got married, and the beagle had her name changed to "molly" and the boy and girl had three children and moved to the suburbs...it's a silly story...i always find that the true stories are the silliest ones. don't you? chicago....sounds like a good time. i will do my very best to make it there. to buckingham fountain, right? or navy pier? i'm a bit confused but that's not out of the ordinary. and i'll figure it out. tomorrow's a day off and i have applications to fill and letters to write and drink to...drink. goodnight xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Mon Oct 8 07:59:01 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 07:59:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: labyrinth: b. applied to other organs of intricate structure (1774) Message-ID: <3BC14EB5.79BB7023@netscapeonline.co.uk> Labyrinthodon: having the enamel folded and sunk inward. Labyrinthodonty... dinousaur dentures... There is a sub-tropical and almost somnambulant character to the sound of underwater bubbles and an endlessly repeated chordal duo from the strings pre-set of a synthesizer on the default channel of the Hilton's TV set. I write at a desk topped in whirly walnut veneer with marquetry in ebony or somesuch before the blonde oak. The lamp is a ghoulish affair in brassy corinthian but sports, above the capital, an energy saving bulb: the result of an environmental audit of fevered men on a mission and promotion, ticking boxes on photocopied forms from independent bodies brought from high. One thinks of the pretty Hilton sisters, quite oblivious, making tasteless jokes whilst simultaneously re-kick0starting the Manhattan restaurant scene, but my reportage is rusty: that was, so like, several days ago and I wasn't even there. I'm here, looking over wet flat felt roofing and a city blocks' worth of car-park: like the afforementioned metropolis, Glasgow is also in a Grid-Iron plan, except where it meets the Green, where the 'Housing of the Future' development stares shinily across to the People's Palace in commie red Glasgow sandstone with the Big Yin's banana boots inside. The synths continue their rise and fall with the aqualung loop in the room with no character except for the fluid international corporate balm, which reminds me to make haste stealing the elongated vessels of bath foam &etc. that I'm not ever going to use: give 'em to mum and in any case they're pretty. My CD player, by Sony, has a 'hold' function designed for joggers rather than people like me, who sleep and leave CD players in rucksacks. It has chosen play mode, chosen to 'hold' it all night so my glimpse of Heather Nova this morning has a battery life of about 5 seconds... enough for one of her lustful scrawling on the face of an octave. Ah... the Bermudan angel. It is now 11:08 and I have a choice of places to go on level two before mid-day. Level two is, actually 'ground floor' in English parlance and 'Garden Level' in EMBT's Catalan, which is rather sweet, don't you think? In any case, said level claims to accommodate Raffles, Minskys and Camerons. Three continents, right? Raffles it is: the man of Singapore, but more of Cameron's (sic) Bloody Mary than Pink Gins for me. The aqualung twitches. Raffles has mock wickerwork, real wickerwork and a two foot fringe of fake corrugated iron in line with fret-cut softwood dyed with dark stain above an opening into an area housing an ill-tuned piano and some 'oh so tropical' louvered doors. Whiny scotch pop in the Travis format drifts from the tannoy. My eyes cast around for a celebrity or two, but it's B-grade territory: either at home, asleep; walking a dog, say a wolfhound, around newly acquired wooded policies in Gloucestershire or Upstate or, alternatively residing in a more discreet hostelry such as One Devonshire Gardens. Each room there is individually decorated. Wow. Anyway, it's not so bad, wittering here with a wonky fountain pen whose cap keeps falling off- the weight of the cap is supposed to balance the writing tip- on linen embossed *Toile Swiss* paper with HTML aspirations, in order to re-state my case; this time with fake fringes and a cocktail umbrella. Stating so much dyspepsia belies ghosts of a quiet beauty. All is not destroyed, and what remains might live. 'No man is an island, entire of himself' said Donne (forgive me if my memory is faulted at this instance). The world is too cynical to recognise a straightforward failure and too daft to see a subtle success. I'd be the world on both points were it not for... dreams. Last night, I bumped into the Dudley Corps in full, tight flood. I apologise for not expecting it 'me of little faith' but you were darned good. I've seen plenty of basements in my time but I'm counting on two fingers the last times I've seen musical quality of the sort that was thrown from the speakers. One corporation has done well. Hovering around, a full sinister picnic's worth of familiar faces plus STACEY, the globetrotting dahling, no less. Then I went mad. One of these links to hell engaged my brain. I don't know if I conjure them or they conjure me, but they aren't phantoms at the time. Thankfully, two people who I shalln't mention by name were extremely kind; a kindness which reverberates I 'check out' then discover that the room of the ill-tuned piano actually has some surprisingly well-stocked bookshelves- the kind of leather-bound multi-volume sets that can be purchased by the foot and are favoured by members of our legal establishment. So I pick 'Law and Government- In Principle and Practice' but, firstly, I'm interrupted by the vain desire to write this down and then, by my mother. Had she arrived seconds later, I'd have stood up and offered some tea... as it was, I was half way through a sentence and raised a finger, rather than my head. Pretty rude, I suppose... wrong priorities, I suppose... what do all these suppositions add up to, except mistaking giving for taking? Next was the Western General, ward 3, on a floor trapped between floors as one would percieve it from the lift at the main entrance. A maze results in the interstitial conveyor, and my father's mother is looking good and I attempt sweet-talking her to move nearer us (the other place is a den of incompetence and snobs) and my dad has arranged a nice room in bread-throwing distance of the duck-pond. The almost limbic thrill to be attained when being chased by 70 ducks is quite re-affirming. So that's then. This is now. Transcribing this has made me very late for work, but made me feel better, and it's better than not going to work at all. This morning has more Heather in it which is, in general, a good thing. To paraphrase, in a somewhat underhand manner, Evelyn Waugh, rather 'love-making'. Were that a substance! Some dreams are lovely. Gordon. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 08:17:44 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 03:17:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: Call it whatever you like. . . Message-ID: <148.2bb6eb1.28f2ad18@aol.com> Good evening, dears! Or morning/afternoon, as it were. You're everywhere, scattered strategically round the world! I've been made famous! By the illustrious Rachel Fruitloop! Well, okay. Maybe not. Certainly, not everyone can reach the Ken Chu levels of notoriety in life; I don't know that I dare aspire to it, even. But, thanks Rachel Fruitloop! I am basking in your warm glow! Really. Big long-distance smooches. It's been a . . . weekend, and since you asked so kindly, yes, I will tell you all about it. I receieved a stunning package in the mail on Saturday*. It contained FOUR tapes, yes, count them. And more. And I must say, it was brilliantly done, as was all the accompanying writing. Mmmmm. I'm still pouring over them, avidly. You know how it is. I'll be doing that for months. I have a perma-grin. My face actually hurts. Well. Moving along. It rained! Sadly, this is probably the second most interesting thing that happened over the past couple of days, the long-awaited arrival of aforementioned package ranking first, of course. So, maybe it wasn't that interesting of a weekend. Hush. Not only has summer slid quietly into autumn, leaving the nights and mornings cool and lush, but clouds are still hanging low in the sky, the moon just a faint outline behind them. While it's not raining now, the air is thick and heavy, and surely it will during the night. I hope I wake to thunder, and raindrops pattering on the window. That would be perfect. Even more perfect than right now, that is. So what else? Well, I've tossed together a mixed tape for a friend of mine tonight. It lacks all pretense of artistry; I just went for the sampler concept. Apparantly, she is too busy making music to listen to it, which is fine, and where I come in. See, anyone within a 50 mile vicinity who has not heard of B&S, Nick Drake, The Clientele, etc etc, well, they're fair game once they fall into my clutches. She will be educated. Indeed. You may sleep easy. I certainly will. Sigh. Speaking of which, I suppose that's what I'm going to do now. After my rendevous with a smooth Turkish blend called Camel Light. Right. I'm off. Much, much love and sweet dreams, Shannon. * I'm writing a full report now, Sam, but it's going to be LONG. Hold tight ;-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 08:38:49 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 08:38:49 Subject: Sinister: Hello. I'm Jed. Let me be your friend and kill you. Message-ID: It was William S. Burroughs who said: "Exterminate all rational thought." I think that it is very well said. Today I will do the same. Today will be another step forward, I hope. Yes, I know I will regret it someday, but today all my B&S- ceedees will go to the nice man at the recordstore. Hopefully I'l get some money. I hope I don't find any albums that I want to own. I need money. And I need to get away from B&S. Without B&S this would have never have happened. I will still be a part of this list. This list is nice. It keeps me going sometimes. But the music is dead for me. ______________________________________________________________________ There's blood on your hands. It all went like this: Remember when you said "Hi?" I'm sure you do. You smiled and pretended, my god. You SMILED and pretended you actually were just an outsider. You came from nowhere with a suitcase in your hand and now I'm having trouble because I'm acting nervous. But I knew there was something wrong with you. All that smiling. All that smiling. Nobody smiles that much. And how much you pretended you have nothing to do with us. That you're just here, without any reason. Just another face in the world? How foolish of me. You and your agenda. That you just happened to be there, thinking of nothing like that. I never could imagine someone could do that. How can a person slaughter someone who is close in a small city? It only happens in bad sitcoms and in movies made in Hollywood. The trouble is, they always have that ending that doesn't come from reality but from dreams. And dreams are never true. David Cronenberg is the only one who knows how things usually end. Small ones are stomped over and lied. They don't know what or who to trust, and they end up confused and gone. God. Where are you? You just don't care. People are dying all over the world (and I know this is selfish like they say) and I am dying and you do nothing. I quess you don't exist. But there's always the hope of you being there somewhere. But my prayers, they aren't helping. People are dying all over the world and you are not listening to their weeping. You and them are the same. You just don't care. How I wish tomorrow would come, so I wouldn't have to feel. A tiny little pill helps, but not for the lifetime. But now there's blood on your hands, and it's mine. And you're ever so eager to lick it from your fingers, you feed yourself from it. Hope you're happy? I know you are. Yes, there's blood on your hands. Why is it so damn hard to wait for tomorrow? You're slowly tapping my vein. I can't feel my pulse anymore. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppppppppppp....... Yes, you have blood on your hands, and you feed yourself from it. There was a summer and everything went by. Things change. Car alarm. Someone shut that thing off. It's screaming, just like the dying are screaming. And like God, nobody cares. They don't care. Nobody cares anymore. If someone steals your car and the alarm goes off... Nobody cares. It can scream and scream and scream and scream forever and nobody cares 'cause it's not happening to them. But imagine, you hopelessly wait and watch it happen and they feed on you and smile and take all your possessions, your bars, your nights, they steal your life away from you, they steal your life so you have nowhere to go when you want to go somewhere but you just have no place to go because they take your life and tell you to not to live because they want to live... wouldn't you be afraid? Afraid that someone can deny your very own existance, that someone can tell you not to live even though that's what helps you? How can someone lie and hit you in the face like that? VROOM! What just happened? Oh, my car is gone. And there was my life at the backseat, neatly wrapped in a plasticbag. Well, it was choking anyway Oh yes, there's blood on your hands. End of story. ____________________________________________________________________ -J I need a phone call I need a raincoat I need a big love I need a phone call Then he looks up at the building and says he's thinking of jumping. he says he's tired of life; he must be tired of something. Her kindness bangs a gong It's moving me along and she begins to fade away It's chasing me away She disappears and Oh lord, I'm not ready for this sort of thing. I wanted the ocean to cover over me I wanna sink slowly with out getting wet Maybe someday, I won't be so lonely And I'll walk on water every chance I get _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 18:26:48 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:26:48 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the unbearable nakedness of being Message-ID: <004501c15026$0a65af20$740a073e@aqlzosqt> oh no no no no no. this working from home thing is too weird. my mobile rang when i'd just got out of the shower this morning and before i knew it i was in the middle of a discussion about travel arrangements with a poet... totally NAKED. i could barely concentrate on what she was saying because i kept thinking 'hey, i'm NAKED here, lady'. it was horrible. sorry, just had to share the trauma. not to mention the fact that yesterday someone removed my brain and replaced it with several warring factions of hormones, who then proceeded to a) be completely evil to my boyfriend, and b) give me extremely unattractive red puffy eyes. and it rained like a bastard all day. and to top it all off we are bombing afghanistan and the world is clearly going to hell in a handbasket. even my toast tasted wrong. luv archel *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Oct 8 14:41:51 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:41:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I wandered one day while sober Message-ID: <20011008134151.70723.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com> Going out in London is a great way to relieve oneself of all that troublesome weighty money. It's an unfortunate side-effect of being over twenty-five that the designers of bars assume your ideal environment is a multi-level labyrinthine enormo-bar/club thing with piped chart music. But then it wasn't my birthday - I couldn't choose the venue. We worked out it was cheaper to get drunk on the house wine rather than the (bottled) beer. They actually showed me the bottle for approval before opening it! By the way, the football: What a load of shite! I'd have walked out after the first half and gone to the pub if I hadn't already been in one. The next day I was hungover, tired and less disposed towards talking to people. I took my leave of the small group of friends who I like and some mere aquaintances about whom I'm ambivalent. I travelled into London with another of the Mere Aquaintances who I've now decided is lovely. I have a thing for girls with big dark eyes who can employ the word "slacker" with sincerity and accuracy. We chatted about stuff -her boyfriend is a marine currently in the middle-east although not at this point directly involved in the goings-on - before parting ways at Waterloo. I went to Camden and bought one of the Love & Rockets books I didn't have. By now it was shedding down with no plans to stop. Gordon dropped a lengthy and diverse post in which he mentioned "the big yin's banana boots" which brought a smile to my face. The rest of the post was good too. Halfway home my train magically turned into a coach. There was a radio on board which told me that bombs had started falling on Kabul. The coach went silent while Mr. Blair spoke forcefully and eloquently like he always does. Mr. Bush spoke awkwardly and made me think my ears had gone funny. I began to think of cities laid waste and human suffering. I wanted to think of things that didn't make me feel like the world was bigger and uglier than I could handle. If it had occurred to me, then I would've thought of the banana boots. Selfishly I thought of the girl with the big brown eyes - presumably someone else far away was doing the same thing. Fuck knows what she was thinking. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whiteloaf at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 14:49:17 2001 From: whiteloaf at xxx.com (eamonn mclarnon) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:49:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dublin 1 Message-ID: I was scanning through my back log of Sinister mails and noticed that dirtyvicar was having trouble finding fellow dublin listees. Some like myself have been slinking aound in the background for years. I have heard B&S played all over Dublin, even non stop in certain restaurants (probably by other listees). I have been scouring the press, web sites etc for news of some Dublin Gigs but can't find news of any. I have spread the B&S word around and now some of my friends are bigger fanatics than me - so if anyone knows of any upcoming gigs in Irelan let me know. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 32573 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 8 14:56:44 2001 From: 32573 at xxx.uk (Richard Kim Jones) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:56:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hallo...about my first hangover Message-ID: hey i went to my friends 18 (twins) on Friday night i said i woldnt get drunk i drank 2 pints guinness 5 bottles metz countless jd&cokes i was wasted i had work the next day i wasnt sic it was great me wanna do it again *hugs to all* xxx rich im not living im just killing time +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 15:24:34 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:24:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: nonomorecauseyeah Message-ID: <20011008142434.10508.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> that's what it sounds like. sounds good. I wish I hadn't left my cassette in my parents' car. I'm well known for getting dire straits lyrics wrong. and paul simon's too. occasionally. I was going to say something about status quo. but I can't be bothered. same again: [I want to say 'you know the routine'.]. _______________________________ I got to a new place on friday. with a lot of my old stuff. and, with some help, I dumped it and went to the underground station nearby. the first part required more help. and to a pub. and to a party. thing. it was fun. although I noticed the fridge door had problems being opened [and commented on it in an ugly manner] I didn't see any magnets on the door. it seems I missed out. I left early. I think I realised how much everything I said meant nothing. or how much I wanted it to. after four months of not doing anything. having to do something. is. well. I don't want it. [[bish bash] bosch-]ian. he congratulated me for not doing anything for four months. where am I now? where are you? ouch. cafe. squeezed into benches. whipped. people saying things about you that you can't hear. thank God I know they weren't bad things. yes? and I mention the marx brothers too frequently too. a wee while ago wee ally said 'They say less is more.'. and he's right. they do. but don't they also say less is a bore? and more recently too. choose. remember, if it's on offer: take the dangerfields. [more like this please]. this has been a weekend of acquirement. maybe. got a new place. got new people who I already knew. of. got new surfaces [no tectonics yet. that's tomorrow. he's like lloyd, we think, but not like the like-lloyd that lilly looked at and who knew that lilly was looking.] [my, my.] and new utensils. oh. new: a phone here. an umbrella there. well. the umbrella is here too. I know which I prefer. and probably new experiences too. of situations. that can't be helped. no matter how much you wish they could. I wish they could. have. or be. I need to get some new jokes. I sat in a stairwell and looked famous. with a famous looking girl. it wasn't really a stairwell. it was just a stair. well. see? well: I made something think I was smart because I knew arthur miller had written something about trials of witches. he wrote other things too; I'm not that smart. the dudley corporation were really very, very good. I won't compare them to the strokes. although I saw a momentary similarity. in the silence. joan of arse too. I kinda really enjoyed it. I doubt anyone noticed. someone said that I get violent when I'm drunk. and then they realised how wrong they were. wrong. so they said that I pretend to get violent when I'm drunk. what a claim! I don't like pretenders. and I should have added something to that effect in my recent sir francis drake conversation. surely. the one that could be construed as the most violent would be a brief demonstration of trouser mechanisms. and I CAN BE ANNOYING. afters months of promises [I've said something about promises before.] [I promise.]. there was a match. is it a match? it wasn't perfect; my parents didn't deliver my rug on sunday. but: yes. a game. and a victor. no not him. me. of course. I never thought I'd get jowls. but I did. the other night. as a result of lager. even though we bought wine. I don't have jowls now. or anything else. someone had crabs. I'd rather have jowls than crabs. there's more point. well. more points. someone else took four Es. then used two of them. in a remote manner. and complained. a lot. I hope I never get jowls again. not for a while anyway. high-scoring: it's lonely at the top. I always liked the fact that K is five. because it's less than it should be. what a bore. adding 'pal' to the end of a sentence can make it seem threatening. or just rude. unless you can do it in a post-ironic way. try it yourself. an english boy I once met wanted to pronounce 'buchanan' as 'buck-a-nan'. but I wouldn't let him. thanks to those who made the past few days more enjoyable than most usual days. and to everyone else: thanks. I must, now, photograph concrete and make like I understand flows. and space. I can attempt it. and some sort of model. I may yet learn to appreciate contours. if only I didn't have to. showing someone else how to use a computer program you wish you knew how to use yourself but don't know how to use and succeeding feels strange. but it isn't really so strange. is it? nope, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 15:47:50 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:47:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: Randomly Placed Emotional Baggage Message-ID: <167.2031d9d.28f31696@aol.com> Hello to all. It's been a while.. Truth be told, I haven't had much time for sinister since I've gotten back to school, with the papers and the test and the classes. Yeah, last spring I was here too, and yes, last spring I posted and read every single one of your precious little mails, but that's when I didn't write for the school paper and didn't take hard difficult courses and didn't have a radio show.. Oh pish. I just thought I'd say hello to you all because there was once a time when I would have truly given anything to pluck every single one of you from your original posts and place you all in a little town in Scotland and form the Sinister village. Because you made me laugh and smile and feel for just a moment that there was nothing to worry about in the world. And because you made the perfect comparison of Isobel's singing to "a frightened hamster undergoing an asthma attack". I love you all for that. And now I'm going to scoot, back into lurkdom, back into the dreaded math class with a teacher who yells and a test with a C on it. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 16:43:30 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:43:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm got a thing about seeing... Message-ID: <62.15179d0f.28f323a2@aol.com> I've got no time for silly chitter chatter. I'm on my way. Because while my blood is still warm and my mind doesn't matter, I'm hopping to stay. Hi sinister. How are you all? Its morning in Chicago. I'm waiting till one o'clock. Its Columbus Day and I have no school. My whole family went to the Aquarium because my older sister is home from Uni this weekend. She goes back tomorrow. So, I'm alone. Maybe this is how Ken Chu feels all alone in his house... This week has been weird. I'm all cured from my stupid accidents in art, I'm healing nice, thank you to all who cared... My sister is home and her boyfriend is spending all of his time at our house. I asked him about his house all weekend because he is 18 and has his own place which he owns. I wish I was old enough to be alone. My sister brought me a 369 Seconds... poster from the record store near her school and I hung it up and its beautiful and I needed to clean my whole room in order for it to look OK there. So that's what I did all weekend. I also organized all my art for the AP art application I need to fill out this week. And I then realized that I am not as good as I thought I was, so I painted and came up with new ideas to build a portfolio. So, my weekend has been a lot of stuff around my house. But today I'm going with the boy who looks like Cat Stevens to an apple orchard to pick some apples and make some pies. I like all that good clean fun that comes with fall. The quote atop is reminding me of my life right now. This is the most uneventful weekend in a while. Which is good because I was getting to hate myself, thinking I was boring and dumb and shit? I told my best friend I was not taking her shit anymore. She pushes me around until and doesn't like me unless everyone else hares me. She's part of the Indie my-cartigan-is-more-vintage-than-yours Scene. Well, lets not start that again. Although I am from Chicago I will not be at this picnic thing. I'm little and I promised my mom lunch for her birthday. Next one, I'll be there! much love Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 18:31:27 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Pernice Bros? Message-ID: <20011008173127.99732.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi y'all, Can anyone tell me about the Pernice Brothers? I seem to remember some talk about them a couple days back. They're coming to my little town at the end of the month & I'd like to find out more about them before I see 'em/buy their CD. Gratefully yours, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 20:15:49 2001 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:15:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: this is how we live our glory days Message-ID: <6.1d40556c.28f35565@aol.com> Hello Sini-Girls and Sini-Boys, I hope you are all doing well. Personally, I could not be more wondeful. I am filled with a sort of excitement that I have really never experienced before. For the first time, everything seems to genuinely be going well, and there is so much to look forward to in the next week. First and foremost on Wednesday I will be driving to Wisconsin to visit, my sweet, wondeful love Elise. Words really cannot effectively describe how much I am looking forward to this trip. The thought of just being able to spend time with her makes me so incredibly happy. She is really a wondeful person in every sense. I am truly more excited about this than anything ever before. Also, on Saturday both Elise and I will be at the Chicago picnic. I want to tell Jim that he is awesome with a capital A for driving us! It will be nice to see the city of Chicago, since I have never been there before, and to meet some nice people from sinister. Im sure it will be a grand time. Some of you may remember from my last post that I was a bit unsatisfied with my school situation, luckily since then I have become far more content with the situation as a whole. I think having a generally better outlook on life has done wonders for that particular situation. I also pre-ordered the new Pulp album the other day from amazon.co.uk, which is immensely exciting! Rachel Fruitloop made a post recently about having to love one's self in order to love anyone else, and I think she was dead on right. It's quite amazing really, in the past month or so, I feel like I have finally come to love who I am. I always remember in the past, even in relatively good times, feeling inadaquate in a way, and just generally not thinking myself as too wonderful of a person. Now however that has really changed, feeling the way I feel about myself is something that I never really thought would happen, but it is quite a pleasant surprise to say the least. Haha, I feel so special actually being discussed, albeit briefly, on the list. Granted, im no sinister celebrity...but I suppose everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame. The weather has been so delightful lately. Cool and sunny, a perfect combination in my opinion! It makes being outside a pleasure, and even walking from class to class is pleasant on days like this. Yesterday I actually went for a really nice drive up to the mountains with my parents and siblings. We haven't really done any sort of activities together as a family in quite some time, so it was quite nice in that respect. We didn't really do anything special, but to be out and enjoying the wonderful weather we have been so lucky to have lately was quite nice...And they bought me lunch too! The scenery was very nice, and the whole area just seemed peacful. I like that...it's too easy to get caught up in the stressful aspects of day to day life, and a bit of a escape from that is lovely. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the city too, it is just nice to spend some time in the countryside occasionally. I was wondering if there are any people on the list from the MD, DC, VA or even southern PA, and if at somepoint in time they would be interested in having some sort of meet up somewhere? Well, I must go for now...I have tons of preperations to take care of for Wednesday! I can't believe my trip is the day after tomorrow!!!!!!!! I will see some of you on Saturday at the picnic. Love, Especially to Elise, Sean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 22:18:58 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:18:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'll be known as the girl who's always working Message-ID: Work is treating me well. After so many years of unemployment, I find myself leaving the house at 9 in the morning, flapping around all day, pausing only for a diet coke/fag/email/chip cob break, then arriving back home at 9 pm, knowing that I have to do it all the next day. In the time that I was not working, when I was sitting on the sofa watching daytime TV, while the mad (now ex) boyfriend sat smoking spliffs and pontificating about the sins of the middle classes, I found that I was prone to procrastination and over-analysis to the point of self indulgence. I found that, without outside stimulation, my brain starting stimulating itself, without anything else to chew on, it began eating itself, chasing its own tail. I saw problems where they didn't exist, or maybe they did exist but they weren't *really* important, were they? My brain needed something outside myself and outside the smoke filled council flat to get its teeth into. Otherwise I'd be left feeling so confused and crackers that I'd feel like I needed to take my brain out and rinse it under the tap. And now I have it. And it's grand. I think. Well, it's tiring and dull and irritating because I'd rather be at home smoking fags and trying out new hair-dos, but at least it's not self-indulgent wallowing. My job is note taking for disabled students at my university, but the loved one says I'm a "learning facilitator". You can see why the loved one is so loved, can't you, saying things like that? This talk of love recently has been interesting. I used to think that love was something that hit you like a flash of lightning, changed your life forever, made you, somehow, something that you weren't. You'd meld with someone and become so much like them that you couldn't breathe unless they were sitting next to you. That no one in the world had ever felt a love like this. Then I threw up on his feet at a Suede gig and he dumped me. Now I think that love is something that creeps up, silently, when you're not looking. When you're walking down the street, debating this pub or that cinema and you look at them and a huge tenderness falls over you and you think "I might be in love with you". And then you kick around together a while longer and it seems silly not to say it, so you do, and then you carry on saying it and saying it makes you as happy as hearing it. And sometimes you finish each others' sentences, but sometimes you don't understand what the hell the other one is on about. And it just feels like the pieces of the jigsaw have finally fit, or not even that, but that you've managed to do the sky and the edges of the jigsaw, and now you can finish the middle bit yourself. Actually, here's the thing that I meant to post about. I was in uni today talking to a girl I had just met and she said "So, what music are you into?" Me: Well, I really like Belle and Sebastian. I went to see them this summer. Her (hysterical laughter): Really? That must have been brilliant! Me: Yes, errrr, it was good. Her: U G L Y, you aint got no alibi! You ugly! Me (baffled): What? Her: Belle and Sebastian? They did that, right? Me: Um, I think that was Daphne and Celeste. Her: Oh yeah..... I don't think I know much about music..... Well, I thought it was funny. Air strikes. Want to say something, but I can't, really. All I know is that the first time I hear someone mention "collateral damage" (they may have done already, I haven't had much chance to watch the news) I will scream and vomit with rage and disbelief. Sorry I've gone on a bit. Love Madeleine xxx PS Shouts out to Sir David Stankin. He gives good email. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 04:03:23 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:03:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: don't leave the light on baby Message-ID: <001801c15087$a3a08e60$f229073e@aqlzosqt> i've just about recovered from being naked now. it was almost back to the good old days of archel smut there, wasn't it? gordon's last post made me think of an old friend who used to send me long stream of consciousness emails from the cavernous computer room at kings college in cambridge. he was hating his course and existing on caffeine, so the emails were random in the extreme. but amazing. desmond was writing about having to turn the lights on at 3pm, but i must say that i get a little thrill from that, at first. today i was on a bus home feeling deliciously sinister (and protected from the rain), and the lights were twinkling on london road and blow me if it didn't feel like christmas already. and i decided that maybe there is still some hope left in the world, although lots of terrible things seem to be happening really quickly and i can't seem to see very far into the future. a few months ago, matt wrote on the page for october 8 in his diary this reminder: 'die horribly'. i know he was only bored or something, but i've still been a bit nervy today and won't be quite relaxed until after midnight. there are such things as self-fulfilling prophecies after all... this all has nothing to do with b&s, but whatever crap is whirling round my head, i still return to them (even though it's against my principles to obsess over one thing, lest you lose it.) i hope you're all warm and safe tonight. luv archel *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 23:07:36 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20011008220736.28281.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> halo. there wouldn't happen to be any sinisterians in the minneapolis/st. paul area, would there? i was just wondering...... caleb ben moore ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com Mon Oct 8 23:58:16 2001 From: stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com (juju cat) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:58:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: so much on me Message-ID: halo i am juju... this is my first post :: i read his words this morning, and the air became heavier. it is thick and suffocating. who would think that air could suffocate you.. just one day, and all our lives were altered. that was when the heaviness really began. and it has lasted this long. a broken heart takes time to heal, but the time that keeps passing me by is fleeting, not healing. it is taking, not giving. it is flirting, but never willing to stick around. i want to embrace it. we saw b&s together one loverly night last month. i took him backstage, and we were too shy to meet the band. i was giddy just to be with him. our mutual heroes seemed to fade in the distance whilst we had each other to gaze upon... he wanted to *talk*.. so we stayed up till 4am. then we found a hotel and slept for a few hours. he clammed up- kept in his shell with his secret-- till morning. then he said he was in love with me.. he said he drove from new york to californ-i-ay listening to one of my songs and realized it.. and you'd think that's when everything would get better... but i only remember crying the rest of the day. because he doesn't want it. he wants to follow his bliss and fly and sail and run run run, 'anywhere but here' he says.. anwhere.. and i can't get it out of my mind that it would be nicest to have somebody to come home to and share that bliss with-- you know, at the end of the day, once you've had enough of the dream chasing.. but this one, he is strange. so we laid on the grass by the exploratorium, took pictures of swans, watched the sun set, caught another b&s show.. i cried and kissed his cheek good-bye.. all the time, i wasn't understanding how or why.. or what came next.. what do i do now? we've come so close, and yet he is still turning away. ? ....he calls me an angel. he swoons to music i write (he is my muse..). he takes my breath away whenever i see him.. which is not often, for he lives a few hours away.. we meet at shows in the city. we dance like geeks in the crowd together. then we part, only to rejoin later in cyberspace (he's here now)... he is everything to me. it looks like the perfect situation, but it is so far out of reach... and this week he may lose his job, and i may never see him again, for he will do drastic things like sell his scooters and fly away-- and i will be left here :: just juju. at sigur ros, my little friend fainted. he carried her. got her food and water, and she kept warm in his coat. i felt his gaze on me the entire show. he told me later that i was glowing. are these not things that would make us closer? but we are still as far apart as ever.. i wonder why we met then? i wonder why one day i rode behind him on his scooter, while the sunlight washed over my smiling countenance and i felt happiness for the first time in ages.. i saw things clearly.. my life changed... i wonder why it had to be him that made that happen.. i wonder why he would come into me like a bolt, and then just disapear without a sound. i wonder why music is as powerful as it is. that we both sat as silent as statues when stuart sang /you made me forget my dreams/.. i wonder what will happen to my life once he has gone.. i wonder if i can ever hear /we rule the school/ again without sobbing. i wonder if we're all just foxes in the snow, and we're about to disappear... ? juju and her dream of rockets ps no matter what happens, i cna never hear the b&s cds the same way again.. it was so overwhelmingly gorgeous live, that it is a dull comparison now.. stu's voice was golden. stevie was a doll. and i will never forget... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Tue Oct 9 00:30:37 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 00:30:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Osama Bin Laden Message-ID: <3BC2371D.5A1C9D54@netscapeonline.co.uk> He's actually a fairly pretty guy. So's Tony. So's Bush Jr. I don't know who the president of China is, but I suppose he's a man and a reasonably pretty one too. Wouldn't it be oh so pretty if they stopped the rhetoric and tried some 'not bombing' some 'not war' some affront to violence by laying rest awhile? I really hoped I'd never have to speak politics again but, the horror seems to have been compounded by our 'statesmen' and I really have to state, and quite publicly, my utter disgust. I have been incapacitatated and speechless for about 8 hours now... I can't work; I can't think; I'm loosing hope. How can they get away with 'war on terrorism'? What the hell's that? Some rich madman and we're at war? Can someone important calm down for a minute and put that dodgy finger well away from war on us all? There's a proper way to do this. It's called Justice: it's what the whole world works for and it has various forms, of which the summary format allows little opportunity to express the complexities of nations and cultures and does nothing better than to feed imperial predjudice, and it must stop. Like, now. My anger is not one of fear. My anger is not that of a liberal; not yet. My anger is of seeing a misappropriation: seeing our values trashed by power-mongering as so many dogs chasing a rabbit, and it's getting well out of hand. Well out of hand. Swagger is for the bluebeard pirates of this world and not for our leaders! Children! Yik! Gordon Given time, we can ALL become precious to one another: humanity wasn't designed to be split. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eld9 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 9 02:07:07 2001 From: eld9 at xxx.uk (Liz Dawson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:07:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ramblings and odd stuff from a newbie Message-ID: <007901c1505e$b74cdbe0$3700020a@aber.ac.uk> Hi sinister people, I have been a lurker for some time now, and I figured it was time to say hello to all you lovely people, and to introduce myself. I must say that I have enjoyed all of your posts over the last few moths, and they have kept me both entertained, amused and informed, a huge big thank you to you all... My name is Liz and I am currently attending the lovely university in Aberystwyth (some of you may of heard of it, if enough have, and live near or in this wonderful town, maybe we could have a picnic before the weather turns evil), studying geography of all things, and generally making a nuisance of myself in the union as a writer of reviews for the student magazine and a DJ for the student radio station. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the person on this list who introduced me to the wonderful Australian band, Sodastream, of whom I own their LP 'enjoy', and am currently waiting for their current album to become available through Rocketgirl. I must also hasten to add that I fell in love with Belle & Sebastian through a friend of mine, and fellow sinisterine, Jonny Howell (hello!), ever since I was dragged to Scarborough to see them play live, of which I must also give thanks to Big Stu, who provided the transport, and I must admit I have liked them ever since. In reply to the person (sorry can't remember your name) who asked what sinister means, and I can answer that with some confidence. Sinister actually means 'left-handed', which I believe is a bit unfair, as it is also associated with evil,wickedness, dark, foreboding and menacing. Not that I am suggesting for one moment that any of you lovely people are any of the above of course. Also I have had the opportunity to listen to the debut offering from the Strokes, and I must say that I do like it quite a lot, but then I also like Dinosaur Jr, REM and Skunk Anansie, (as well as many others), so you are free to take my opinion with a very large and crusty lump of salt! Well that's enough ramblings from a first timer, I'm sure you'll here from me again, The ever lovely, though somewhat strange, Liz xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 07:14:02 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 07:14:02 Subject: Sinister: Some Things. Message-ID: Some things: So I went to the record store last night with the intention to well....maybe I won't say...okay...well I went to see if they had received the old strokes album yet, because I have yet to hear them other than than the things I tend to miss on Morning Becomes Eclectic. They didn't have it. I did go with the super objective of getting my mom a gift certificate. But. I also bought myself the new Ben Folds record. In my opinion it is absolutely breath taking. There are songs that stop me dead in my tracks as I listen to them, for example the very last song "The Luckiest". My god it is beautiful, if I can even come close to that level of art and beauty in a song in my life time I would be happy. The song captures the feeling of love and sharing yourself with someone like love its self. Does that make sense? So, we are bombing people again. Well, I don't like the taliban and terrorists I think they are horrible enough to be bombed, so I guess that's a good thing. I just really, really hope we are bombing the things that should be bombed and not little babies and innocent people. For some reason I get bitter and skeptic when we bomb something or someone and also drop food and supplies on the people we want to help. I really want to think that we are doing that to help them out, and not for other reasons that I might not know about. I think it's good because in war we need to separate the people we want to hurt and people we want to help. The Afghani people do need help but, we should have helped them a long time ago. I But as history goes, we put up the stop sign after the accident. and I haven't really done anything to help them personally. I think that a really good step in the "fight against terror" or whatever you want to call it would be to educate ourselves. It was only a month or two before the attacks that I knew what the Taliban was. I think it's good to bring awareness of the central asian/middle eastern culture to the forefront. Well, I'm rambling and trying to sound clever, and really achieving the opposite. and i've spelled lots of things wrong so I'll send it through the spell check and It'll look like I spelled things right. But I want you to know that I havn't. all of you take care. Tim ps. again if anyone has a recording of the second S.F. warfield show please let me know, I'd really appreciate it. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 9 09:03:53 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:03:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Strokes Mandeville Message-ID: <000e01c15099$0cd3a5a0$3c62253e@itjfvkli> My Editor has asked me whether 'Are Friends Electric?' is a song or a record. I'm stumped. I feel like one of those dogs that have been trained to thump their tails on the floor, once for yes and twice for no, and then get asked whether they prefer Pedigree Chum or Bonio. I think I'll tell him it's a song on a record. It may be relatively safe from car bombs and what-not in Scandanavia, but the chances of being grabbed from behind by a big fat bald man wearing only a towel and being bustled into a sauna and locked inside at maximum temperature are much greater than in Northern Ireland. Swings and roundabouts. Besides which, which IRA are we talking about, the Provisional IRA, the Real IRA, the Authentic IRA, IRA The Spaghetti Incident or the IRA Rabbit Redux? I would like Elenita99 to write 'SALUT LES COPAINS!' on her velcro. Or 'GLISSEMENTS PROGRESSIFS DU PLAISIR' which is a terrible film I sat through today. It translates as 'I LIKE CHEESE'. While I'm Reporting Back, some listees might like to know that Lenny Waronker gets a thank you on Bootsy Collins' greatest hits package 'Back in the Day'. Now I'm on the digest I've been thinking, how long does a message have to be to get a digest all to yourself? I think one or two of you have been trying to find this out yourselves. I don't think I'm going to manage it today. The Mike Hurst Orchestra appears on a compilation called 'Pet Sounds' on, I think, RPM records. I've been listening to a bloke called Sandy Denny and an excellent album called 'The Hard Shoulder' by a young lady called Jo Brooker. I read somewhere that it's heavily influenced by Bruce Springsteen, so I was expecting veins sticking out on necks and spine dislodging stomp-a-longs, but it turns out to be a rather lovely gentle acoustic outing. I started out listening to it while I was working, but I ended up stopping work so I could listen to it properly. And there's no greater compliment coming from a confirmed workaholic like myself. It almost made me want to get a sex change myself. I've also been listening to 'Big Pink Music' by The Band. I think it may go on to become an acknowledged classic. Why has the new Spiritualized album been released in a blancmange mould? Is it any good? We only ever seem to talk about Hefner nowadays :-( Thank you to everyone who has been Reporting Back. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whytey1982 at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 10:36:27 2001 From: whytey1982 at xxx.com (Alan Whyte) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:36:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Happiness,Hefner and Gigs (plus interview news) Message-ID: I've been saving up my thoughts of the past month for one post (don't worry, it's not that long). Hannah Brown said: >WWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! It's good to feel happy. I want to say it too but i'd be kidding myself. JenOwl said: >I think you should smile if you're reading this, because when people > >smile, even if they're unhappy, just for a second the feeling of >smiling >fools them into being happy. So go on. I did thanks. And it worked!!! Danny Farrell said: >my bestest friend in the whole world is really dejected because he >has >women trouble and i can't help him because i'm really sad too and >have >women trouble so i just hand him my big bottle of vodka and then >put on >Belle and Sebastian or the smiths and that makes it okay for a >little >while. Tis true, for tis me. MY FRIENDS I am having a hard time right now, and although this is only my second post i feel close to you all. I am really lazy and can't be bothered working, so i just go to Danny's (cause he's lazy too) and we drink Kahlua or vodka and red bull (though with ginger beer and lime is also good) and lot's of coffee. I've been on sinister chat a few times, it's grate, and i spoke to my big mate Ken and also the Pickle Prince who informed me that he shares his second name with fellow sinisterite ryan (mckinnon, if u must know), cause we were on chatting together. HEFNER Bought Dead Media, it is very poor (sorry jenowl and people who like it) though i like china crisis and peppermint taste. The rest is very dissapointing synth nonsense to be honest. I still love Hefner though and i'm going to see them at the Cathouse. If anyone else is going, get in touch if u want to go drinking before/after it with me, Danny and Ryan,(We are quite friendly, but a bit shy). ESSENTIAL READING FOR B&S AND HEFNER FANS I am interviewing B&S and Hefner soon, i'll post the interviews up on the web when i've finished them. I'll let you know where and when in my next post so you can look forward to it (i know i am). BALLBOY/JOSEPHINE/BARRICHELLO Went to 13th Note on Sunday (i love that place) with Danny and my bandmate Graham to see the bands above. It was grate, Ballboy are very good,(the new proclaimers, but in a good way) but not up to B&S standards (who is?). I met their keyboard player Katie, she was really sweet and signed my album. Also met the very enthusiastic Josephine singer (he is a loony) who was also grate and talked me and Dan into buying their single. bye,bye kids. Love Alan oxo P.S Thanks to Jules for enlightenment of a Douglas Coupland and twee animals nature, and Will for Sinister news network. Also to Ken, Danny and Ryan for cheering me up. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 03:26:07 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:26:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: soundtrack of our lives Message-ID: Hi, Someone posted here a few days ago about the new Soundtrack of our Lives album. I heard about them 3 years ago, but never saw a domestic relase by them. I checked on CDNow and they have 3 CDs coming out tomorrow here in the US. Anyways, for the person(s) who mentioned it, can you tell me which album I should start off with? Any help would be great! Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sav_one at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 12:36:22 2001 From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 04:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: New York Message-ID: <20011009113622.58748.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Myself and a couple of friends are popping over to New York for a couple of weeks, partially for a sort of holiday, but also for some top secret thingy for the ad agency we work for. I haven't been over for a year or so and was wondering if some kindly souls who live in NY could let me know of anywhere paticularly ace that we should go to in the way of bars and clubs and eateries. We can reward your advice with booze too if you fancy meeting up, we're all jolly nice people. Cheerio for now Darren __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 12:49:48 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:49:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Farms and the Dark ages Message-ID: Hello lovelies, Isn't it strange how some things set people off or change their moods? For me it's locations an the weather. I was out with my friends at the weekend and we went to this lovely place that is a beach but just up from the beach is a lovely piece of countryside thats has been untainter by society except for one single house which is all decrepit(?) but it's really beatiful. Hmmm not really sure where this is going. Anyway the countryside is beatiful and serene and we took a guitar out and sat playing songs and it was really lovely and very quaint, but in a good way. So now i've decided i want to quit university and move up to the highlands or maybe abroad and run a farm,i think it wold be the most wonderful job in the world. You could get up in time to see the sunrise,do all the farmwork and then sit out in a field miles away from civilisation and relax and then at night-time you could light a little campfire and listen to B&S songs whilst toasting marshmallows and watching the sunset. Right now that is my idea of heaven. Alan said: >Went to 13th Note on Sunday (i love that place) with Danny and my >bandmate >Graham to see the bands above. It was grate, Ballboy are very >good,(the >new proclaimers, but in a good way) Ballboy were indeed rather good,but i think only Scottish people would like them, not meaning that in a ba way at all,its just i only really like them for their inherent Scottishness i think. I had to drive to Glasgow and it was the first time i've ever driven on a motor way and my car really hates me. I love my car because it takes me nice places and will hopefully take me to the Dundee picnic but it growls at me and makes funny noises. The lovely madeleine said: >This talk of love recently has been interesting.... I used to think >that >love was something that hit you like a flash of lightning, >changed your >life forever, made you, somehow, something that you >weren't.....Now I >think that love is something that creeps up, >silently, when you're not >looking. When you're walking down the >street, debating this pub or that >cinema and you look at them and a >huge tenderness falls over you and you >think "I might be in love with >you". I think that there are different kinds of love and not platonic love or lust, just different kinds of loving. All people love differently and maybe their idea of love will change as time go's on Im definetely the creeping sort of love. I agree with Miss Maddie, you could just be walking down the street and turn round at look at the person and think "oh my God i really don't know how i'd cope if you weren't in my life" or more than likely something a lot less melodramtic. I think the worst kind of love is when someone is in love but tries to hid it by being really mean and fakely apathetic,love can be really destructive sometimes. Okay if this didn't make any sense it's because im running solely on cans of Red devil,a fake red bull. Hugs and Dark Ages, Danny xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 14:06:10 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:06:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Shared Beds And Lesbian Spirits Message-ID: Yes, it's me again. Don't expect me to keep up with my (apparent) reputation. No, it wasn't me that was sharing a bed. I know that two people -- Mr Walton and Mr Carsmile, indeed -- have already mentioned that there is a Jamie Oliver trailer running on BBC 2 that uses A Spaceboy Dream as background music. I have more Jamie Oliver news, but it's not very interesting. I read an interview with him (in "Heat" magazine), which stated that he loves the name Honey. I couldn't help wondering if he is actually a secret listee and wants to name his children after our lovely princess. Various people have also mentioned that Stacey Dahling is in Britain at the moment, zooming round the country trying to say hello to everybody. She visited me: in fact, she slept with someone (not me) in the room i'm sat in right now. In return, she gave me a bottle of Lesbian Ouzo, which is very tasty. Like several other people you might know, me and her both went to see the Dudley Corporation and Joan Of Arse the other day. Terribly impressive, I must say. Dudley himself was on the door taking the money; I was tempted to say "I've met you in an internet chat-room," but he probably wouldn't have known who I was. I don't normally read Heat magazine, but my flatmate had left it lying around. I normally don't read it because I think it's full of nothing but vacuous celebrity "news". I think we're supposed to be nice to them, though, because once-upon-a-time they let Honey re-publish one of their articles on the Sinister website. There's going to be a picnic soon. Well, a pub-nic. It's going to be in Dundee, and you all should come along. I'm sure Dundee isn't as bad as its reputation would suggest. And the girls (and dog) who are the picnicmummys are all lovely people (and a lovely dog). Richard Gillanders has already told you all that he got whipped at the weekend. I should probably own up, it was my fault. My plaits kept flicking him in the face every time I turned my head. It was a gentle whipping, but a whipping nonetheless. I'm sorry. I was probably quite drunk at the time. That Stacey, she's a Bad Influence. The whole The Rachels Versus The Wills thing sounds quite scary, because the Wills are getting rather outnumbered. I'm tempted to defect and change my name to Rachel. The Wills still might have a chance, though, just by sheer Will Power. Groan. Dudley certainly jumps up and down a lot on stage. He's extremely energetic, you know. I had to leave one of his gigs early, and had to be very careful not to get hit by him as I left. I had a train to catch, so that I could go home and feed the cat. The Corporation's bass player, by contrast, stands very still indeed when playing. Hardly moves a muscle. Apart from in his fingers, obviously. Stacey seemed very interested in lesbian stories, as it happens. She told us one about accidentally taking her parents to a lesbian topless beach, and another about the mad lesbian stalker who would sit outside the door of her college dorm. I think it was a Lesbian topless lesbian beach, even. or maybe topless lesbian Lesbian beach. My annoyingly deranged flatmate was being annoying again the other day. I have been cleaning out my bedroom wardrobe, drawers and so on, and as part of that I took out everything of hers as I found it and left it in her bedroom. Because it's hers. "Get a grip!" she shouted. "Stop putting my things in my bedroom!" I suppose that, given that she has not looked for these things for over a year, she wouldn't notice what I do with them. Shame I can't sell any of it. She owes me about four months' rent arrears at the moment. A thousand quid, in round numbers. Richard also said "I sat in a stairwell and looked famous. with a famous looking girl." I witnessed this myself, and it's *true*. As I was leaving the gig, I passed them on the stairs. I waved back as I left. And they *do* look famous. There's a picture of them on the web somewhere, albeit not sat on a staircase. I'm not actually *defective*, you understand. I just want to be on the winning side; and besides, it might stop Will Porter challenging me to duels in #sinister for the right to be known as Will. If I become a Rachel, can I be called Rachel Porridge? Maybe Jamie Oliver should come to the Dundee picnic, if he really is a secret lurking listee. He could afford to hire a limousine, I imagine. Double groan. I'm sure he'd be welcome. It might even have been a Lesbian lesbian topless beach. She certainly gets drunk quickly, I know that. I seem to be talking in shorter sentences today. Yes. Short ones. Who can I blame? As an influence? Well? The flatmate is a bit scared of Sinister people, actually. She avoided the place all the time Stacey was here, sleeping at work instead. She *said* it was because she had had to do lots of overtime, but I was a bit suspicious of the way she disappeared the day I had told her Stacey was arriving and reappeared the day after she left. Maybe I should invite listees to move in, and she'd stay away all the time. Stacey cooked me a lovely meal, incidentally. Pasta. See, I *am* starting to write like Richard does. I would have asked if I could be called Rachel Bacon, but then people might confuse me with the similarly-named (formerly-)drug-taking TV presenter Richard Bacon. And we wouldn't want that. I already realise that if I became a writer I'd have to change my name in case people confused me with Will Self. Have you read Madeleine McNeill's post? You should, it's lovely. Apparently, her loved one's brother *might well* have been at one of the Dudley Corporation gigs, which is an intriguing coincidence. Jamie Oliver wasn't there, though. Unless he turned up after I left. It might even have been "topless Lesbian lesbian beach". I still haven't drunk all the ouzo. xx gneissy -- Will Salt http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 15:07:01 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:07:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: calling all christophers... Message-ID: ...or kristophers or kristofers or chris's or kriss's i'm sure there must be a few of us on the list (there were 5 in my class at school after all) i think there could be enough of us to charge into the wills/rachels battle and defeat the whole lot of them and become the undisputed international heavyweight champions of sinister and the best name in the world... ever! not that i'm competative or anything you understand [win, win, win!] love and fightin' spirit (chris) Pez* p.s. don't tell the wills or rachels, we don't want them getting wind of this, the element of surprise shall be in our favour! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 15:32:58 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the hurdy gurdy man Message-ID: <20011009143258.46367.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> hello all you sinister people i'm at work right now, and i just wanted to tell you about what happened to me this morning on the bus, on the way to work. i was sitting in my usual spot, face pressed up against the window to try to soak up any of the cool morning air that might make it's way in (it's so unbearably hot on these buses in the autumn-winter), semi asleep, listening to my discman playing donovan. i drift off slightly from the warmth and the drone and vibration of the womb-like bus, when suddenly! i open my eyes at the moment that "the hurdy gurdy man" starts playing and i behold the sun rising above & beyond the downtown minneapolis skyline with the clouds lit up glowing and singing on fire with all the buildings steaming and, ah! it was so beautiful. a perfect moment. with the perfect song. so i just thought i'd tell everyone bout it. you all should go out and listen to donovan, i bet you'll prolly have a perfect moment also. it also helps to drink about a half bottle of robitussin an hour beforehand also. :) ciao for naio! caleb ben moore ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 15:49:56 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wills V Rachels V Chris's V anyone else who wants to join the insanity Message-ID: <20011009144956.675172755@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 18:14:49 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wills V Rachels V Chris's V anyone else who wants to join the insanity In-Reply-To: <20011009144956.675172755@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20011009171449.1106.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> OK, It's ON!!!! I was thinking at first that maybe we could have a battle of bad puns, but I just dont have the will for it...erm. But I think I've finally come up with a suitable activity for the battle of wills v rachels v chris', tell me if you think this is a good idea. A MIX TAPE BATTLE! now, I thought of it because a few months ago my housemates and I made a tape called "Mystery Mix." What we did was we each recorded a song on the tape and passed it on to the next without telling the others what song we had just recorded. The tape turned out pretty nice. My idea for our Battle of Wills v Rachels v Christophers would be slightly different. Anyone who would like to participate could sign up under whichever team they choose (i.e. Honorary Rachel, Katie Cheeriodle!) and we could then determine how many songs we each can put on the tape to fill it up. It would be ok to let the other team members know what songs you put on the tape, so we can make the best addition possible. Then, we can mail the tape from one team member to the next. Of course, then we would all get a copy of the finished product as well. When it's all done, we can mail it to the judge... I chu-chu-chuse Ken Chu! Maybe it shouldn't be a Chuarchy, so, should we have a panel of 3 judges? What do you sinisterines think? Ken? Start thinking about whether or not it seems like a good idea, if you want to participate, contact me from the Rachels team, and Chris Perriman from the Chris team, or...well, Will, are you Rachel Porridge or Will Salt? Are you WILLing to take us on and be the leader of the Wills, or should we hand over to Spike? I'd like to hear some thoughts on this matter. Rachels, are you with me on this one? !Viva Rachels! love to you all, Rachel Fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 18:38:42 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: there is a place in hell for me and my friends Message-ID: <20011009173842.95428.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> i'm quite jealous of all of you out there who can actually associate with other sinisterians, go out and have fun and talk about your love for belle and sebastian, funny hijinx and witty remarks and whatnot. i DO enjoy reading about it all, though. it makes me feel alot less lonely to know that you guys for the most live the way i do over here in the middle of the nowhere. we all have similiar interests and problems and a unique way of relating to the world. all my friends here, though i love them to death, just aren't quite there. they make fun of me for listening to the music i love, especially (for some odd reason) steely dan. tell me: does anyone else out there like steely dan? well i'm i'm sure SOMEBODY else my age in this wide world must. and i'm willing to bet that they are on this sinister list, reading this right now. why am i ranting about steely dan? i don't know! i just wanted to say that i appreciate the sinisterians. i feel like you are all a bunch of people just as screwed up and lovely & beautifully fated feeling as i am. no offense or anything. ta! caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 18:46:51 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:46:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Josephine and the luncheon meat donation. Message-ID: <20011009174651.1619.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i am in the process of writing a childrens story, the subject line was one of my ideas. I thought i might make some money from being casually witty and wearing nerdy shoes, but have decided that no sunday supplement wants a feature writer who isnt best friends with those Appleton sisters from All Saints. Surely if they were really saintly they wouldnt need to frolick about with celebrity men and other obnoxious women equal to themselves. Sorry, right my point was that i met a terribly friendly person outside my english lit lecture last week, i caught her eyeing my Belle and Sebastian badges and was glad when she excitedly announced that they are her favourite band. I spent the lecture grinning and commenting on the lecturers poor delivery of a poem that was supposed to leave us reeling in mystery and bewilderment, it didn't. Sometimes i wonder why i am studying at all. Then i realise that it is better than watching bad television for the millionth day in a row. Love you all in equal measure, except for those of you who own duffle coats, i love you even more, because you have toggles. That was quite random. Josephine xxx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 18:58:03 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:58:03 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: This is just a modern love song Message-ID: <20011009175803.43730.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Hi! You don´t even know me very well, but sometimes we feel like telling people the way we feel. And I hate the way I feel right now. It had been two years. Two years with him. And now he´s gone. Well, we agreed on it. And I feel awful about my decision. Now I have to sell his B and S ticket. Oh, this is sad. I don´t know if for me or him. He hates the band anyway. Ok, troubles come, but troubles go. And there´s someone who likes me around. Someone I met because of this beautiful band. A crazy guy. As crazy as lovely. This is my ordinary post. By the way, I´m still trying to plan that picnic (hi people from Brazil!). Keep in touch! Hugs! Daniela _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Tue Oct 9 22:18:16 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:18:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Wedding bells are ringing!!! Message-ID: "Let it be shouted from the rooftops that Rachel Grapenut and Little Boy Colin have been successfully matched by sinister's own Ms. Crush. The wedding invitations will be sent promptly. It'll be a small wedding in the countryside or perhaps on the beach. We will not be registered at any major department stores. Instead, we ask that you paint us a picture or make us a mix tape." This somewhat threw me off. Please keep your Rachel's straight, Colin! You got me excited for a moment...and now I'm sad. No one likes me, not even online. Grumble Grumble. In other news, Bjork is God! Vespertine is the aural Bible! I am now completely incapable of drawing without listening to it. In art class today I had to hum "Hidden Place" as best I could just to keep myself working. And Bjork is really not humming music. Then my art teacher came over and cooed over my work, as usual. I can't complain. Well, that was a brief post, but I've got so much to do! How was I supposed to know that Janne's birthday was this week?! I'm cursing myself for promising to make her a present. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gasriot at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 06:34:09 2001 From: gasriot at xxx.com (Tyler Rentz) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: dancing like my soul was In-Reply-To: <20011009173842.95428.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011010053409.1420.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> here i am. chain smoking in a house where smoking is not allowed. this is, apparantly, the story of my life. i am a long time lurker, now in need of something else. i am, at once, a stranger in a strange land. i don't even know where to go to see a decent show. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 08:06:05 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 02:06:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: did you think you could fly? Message-ID: <2E28D7CCB61FF404D990BA4111C9EDDE@chinacat81.wildmail.com> the power went out tonight. leslie thought it had something to do with a sandwich shop. leslie's given me a gorilla and i've named him celeste. he loves all of you very much, and he plays the drums. celeste waves. so, yes, the power went out. i turned onto brady street and noticed that something looked strange, but i couldn't tell what it was. probably because it was too dark to see. but the darkness, as it happened, is what WAS strange, and as i drove down the street i saw people standing in the blackness and the pubs lit by candles and drunken folks spilling out onto the sidewalks and television news crews and it was all very confusing. the traffic lights weren't working, either, and it's a good thing that i'm mario andretti in an ally sheedy parka....so i was fine. the geese have gone south, i think. for the winter...i'd rather like to go, too. well, i'd like to go south for the winter if i could keep the northern winter weather, but i suppose that would defeat the purpose of migration altogether. so here's a mildly entertaining bit of information...i went out for coffee the other day after work, and i was holding my mug in one hand and my notebook in the other, and wondering how i was going to get out the door. there was an old woman standing at the door and holding it open, and i was glad to see her because i really could use a hand. she looked like she would hold the door for me. instead, she turned and looked and me and firmly slammed the door in my face, and everyone started laughing, and i laughed too and walked outside and she called me a name and said "i don't know who the hell you are" and apparently that was reason enough for her to slam a door in my face. everyone kept laughing. i saw a boy through the window, and he looked at me and shrugged and laughed and i giggled at him. i guess it was funny...sort of. i'm running behind. a few days ago there were letters to write and there was drink to drink. so now i'm writing the letters and drinking the drink and feeling that, strangely enough, procrastination didn't pay off this time. i think i am going to go to madison next weekend for elise...pernice brothers...it should be a good time. i hope i don't have to be twenty-one. i always need to be twenty-one, and it's pure silliness. tonight, not even mysterious marie and her lovely lais could distract me from elimidate. hugs xoxo kirsten rachel frootloop, although fitter AND happier, is not a pig in a cage on antibiotics. she is lovely. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 10:26:40 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 02:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wills V Rachels V Chris's V anyone else who wants to join the insanity Message-ID: <20011010092641.0765C36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From gogron at xxx.uk Wed Oct 10 11:14:13 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:14:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pianta di ampio magnifico Collegio* Message-ID: <3BC41F75.55E185F@netscapeonline.co.uk> I am between telephone calls. Sometimes politeness is insulting. At least I could see it coming and it's gratifying to realize that the people who know me tend to like me and the people who don't take the time fire me, ever so politely, in offstage monologue. I'd like to be described as a paranoid eccentric but all I get is office-style fluff. I even had to telephone for the privilege of receiving so much dust. I could turn it all around with a few carefully chosen words but why play in a team? Why play in a team and the captain doesn't know you and re-assembles stray and ill-researched facts so as to dislike you? I may have a stange way of manipulating my own truth but I don't need to like the see-through shambles of someone else's politicalisms. I suppose I now have some free time. Once I get over the shit I might be able to do something useful. The sweet perfume of resilliance. Thing is, I actually like people. But a lion in a cage looking at visitors of the zoo is not the same as the same lion looking at them in the midst of the Savannah Kandahar, Khugiana, Kajakat, Kash, Kang, Kush Kattawaz Is no ma' faut! He did it ! It wisnae me! Aye. I'm afraid this post is almost delirious, but the new Hefner album's very good... the gloopy synths are, well, bouncy and melodic. And you know what? thanks to you lot I now *listen* to lyrics. Well, sometimes. And I read much more. But I guess my places remain indescribeable and private.Well, talking of lyrics, well I went to this party last night/ a lot of people I hadn't seen in a long time and they wanted to know about my life,/ but making me feel like it wasn't quite right like where's your kids and where's your car? I said I don't have either but I have a guitar and I ended up feeling like a freak so I found some wine and something to eat and I talked to the dog to pass the time I suppose if I'm sad the nearest escape corridor is entirely abstract. One imagines being a film director obsessing over glowing extruded parallelograms: visions of flow and spiritual instability. Visceral: appealing as much as it appals? Out of control, as the editor of Silicon Valley's *Wired* magazine entitled his book or the Stock Exchange or the galloping horse: out of control as in 'not being controlled'? Irresolution. Openness. Courage; foolhardiness... for each descriptive appreciation of an action there is a desultory describing exactly the same action. Such are the barely concealed secrets of rhetoric. Be aware. Be wary. I'm letting my mind out on a long leash: giving myself 'a lot of rope' and, if you've actually read this, I'd suggest that you don't attempt to make sense of it. So why post? you might ask. I still am. Asking, that is. I don't know. "Will the gentleman standing behind the bush please stand up. Yes, you sir, Mr. Toby Smythe, of Colefax, West Yorkshire." "Thankyou for your attention, sir." BOOM! ;}' Gordon [quotes are vaguely misappropriated from ms. Heather Nova and messrs. Monty Python, all of whose rights have been vaguely unrespected, but with respects as I am able to proffer] *Piranesi: evidently the only existant plan from a man famed for his perpectives of prisons +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.au Wed Oct 10 13:55:58 2001 From: helen at xxx.au (Helen McLean) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:55:58 +0800 Subject: Sinister: the season of waking up Message-ID: <002e01c1518b$52169440$090aa8c0@MAIN> here I am. two posts in a year. gasp. Trying desperately to stay awake, which is in contrast to this afternoon where I tried desperately to stay asleep. Neither is working all that well. If I am neither asleep nor awake I must be something else. Hungry. Perhaps stupid. Possibly misled. Upset at least. 'Collateral damage' should be struck out of the dictionary. I'm sure someone on here has the power. Right? 'Waking up to us' is better than waking up to me I am sure. I am grumpy in the mornings and I make other people do stuff for me often. Make me coffee. Make me toast. go get my ug boots. Yesterday I spent a large proportion of time in my ug boots. which are the best thing to wear on ones feet ever. Although wearing them outside means that you get odd looks and possibly sniggers, but if Pamela Anderson can do it, then dammit so can I. Although a friend of mine pointed out that not many people are looking at her feet anyway. Here it is spring, and I would be exceedingly pleased if it stayed this temperature from now on. Today was definitely T shirt weather, blue skies and only a slight wind. My mother would call it pleasant. But unfortunately it is going to get hot and I am going to have to deal with it. Most of my friends dealt with it by leaving the country. I went to the country last week and even worked on a farm. Well vinyard at least, for a couple of hours at least. We went to see the Southern Ocean and ended up seeing a rock that looked like a dog. In the Australian tradition of anything large becoming an instant tourist attraction someone had painted a collar on it and were selling postcards and mugs of the imaginatively titled 'dog rock' for fairly reasonable prices. There was also a 'dog rock' shopping centre, a 'dog rock' motel and everything. I liked it better than the Big Banana and the Big Orange, though the jury's still out on the Big Pineapple and the Big Sheep. Though these lose points by being man-made whereas Dog Rock is a natural wonder. One of the seven of the world I should imagine. Though Wave Rock is pretty good too. Prizes will not be given for guessing what that one looks like. I am distinctly not all that excited about the new single. It is disturbing me actually. Every other single and album I have been excited. Maybe its the change of title, maybe its because of the fiasco that was the lonliness of the middle distance runners' guitar solo. Maybe its because as of lately their singles and records can no longer be referred to as the blue one or the yellow one or the red one or the purple one. I liked that. Then again maybe its just the times we live in. Still I am hoping that in the next few weeks my excitement will grow. Marx and Engels should be good. And I have heard good things about the Season has arrived or waking up to us or whatever it is called nowadays. Anyhow, you know the one. You know I kind of like the new name, it can be shortened to WUTU which is better than TSHA. Well cheers then, helen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 16:38:24 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i do not do drugs, i am drugs....... Message-ID: <20011010153824.62539.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> well i moved into my new place last night. my new roommate ballad is a moody sort of guy who doesn't have any friends. he IS a really good musician though, and soon we will colaborate. we were listening to FYHCYWLAP last night while i was unpacking and the only thing we said to eachother all evening was as follows: ballad: "who is this playing?" me: "it's belle and sebastian's latest lp" ballad: "i dig it." he makes music very much in a sort of ambient-beatles vein, but with a little new radiohead atmospherics mixed in. i'd be happy to sing over it. anyway, i awoke this morning to find that a bunch of small children sleeping on the floor in the living room. apparently they are the siblings of my OTHER new roommate andy, who i don't know at all. they are all in town for a day. can i get a shout-out from anyone currently reading salinger? right now i'm reading "nine stories" and i like "for esme--with love and squalor" the best. i'm also currently obsessed with the idea that somewhere in the world someone is doing the EXACT thing as you at a given moment. right now i'm typing. how about you? anyway......................................................word to big bird. -----caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie Wed Oct 10 16:55:49 2001 From: Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie (Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:55:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Going out in London is a great way to relieve oneself Message-ID: <80256AE1.00578444.00@finance.irlgov.ie> SUBJECT LINE I couldn't resist that quote from a post by Robert Brennan, which came in the same digest as Rachel Toast's nude adventures and Shannon's revelation about what she was doing over the tapes. I don't know if I can be seen in the same company as this list much longer if it's going in that direction. PERNICE Elise wrote: <> I was at a Joe P gig in Dublin very recently. Stacey Dahling had warned that he was very serious, but I imagine it was intensified by the P Bros having flown out of NY 10 hours before the crashing. So the live gig was quite serious, beginning with the line "Gimme some more of that morphine..." (approx) and references to suicide in 3 of the first 6 songs (approx). But I was reared on Leonard Cohen and, unlike so many Irish males, I got through my 20s without hanging myself. So I was fine with that kind of stuff. The females in the party were a bit shaken by the gloom but that could be the fault of the excellent sound system which delivered every word clearly. If you don't listen to the words, the Pernice Brothers sound chirpy and very melodic - Beach Boys meeting Teenage Fanclub with very rich vocals and resonant guitar. For example, Working Girls in the background sounds Joe is very happy that there are working girls. But listen to the words and there's a vivid guide to the barren nature of existence in a way that Start Murdoch could have written before he was famous. Joe did nearly 2 and a half hours,with a local keyboard player (John Hegarty?) coming on for 30 minutes and he played nearly everything the crowd asked for. But the Dublin crowd, who had got Bill Callahan to smile, couldn't break down that determination to "make the worst of a bad situation." But it was a great gig and I reckon GO AND SEE HIM/THEM - YOU WON'T REGRET IT. SANDY DENNY The fully digested Peter Miller wrote: <>. That solves the mystery of how the late Sandy fell down the stairs to become "the late Sandy Denny". Now I realise it must have been that he couldn't handle high heels. Not many people know that Philip Lynott was taught bass guitar by a guy called Brush Shiels and was in a Dublin band called Skid Row, led by the same Mr Shiels and they released a single (for Irish market only, I think, 1969 approx) called "Sandy's Gone". Maybe it was about Mr Denny. NATURE OF LOVE Madeleine McNeil's interesting comments sparked off some responses on LOVE. With more life past than life future, I was going to Report Back that it's probably most vivid from 20 to 25 or so and that it's just chemical, but that it seems to provide the biggest hit at that stage. But I won't. Instead I'll remember that I went into a church called the Madeleine in Paris on Good Friday many years ago and there were literally buckets and buckets of flowers and a smell of incense and candlewax and the stained glass light and it was grate. Happy second decadence Martin C, who didn't ask for the F and doesn't want it This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 17:00:40 2001 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:00:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chicago Meet N' Greet!!! Message-ID: Well- It's time to decide where and how our picnic will happen. So please post and tell everyone where and when we are doing this. I just thought we should figure it out. adam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 18:16:09 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:16:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Meet-up Message-ID: Hullo all, The meet-up is on for Chicago this weekend, Saturday the 13th. Stine has offered up her place as a meet-up point and then possibly taking the train into Chicago, or at the very least carpooling. I'll be sending out directions to Stine's to those who emailed me already. If anyone else is thinking of going, PLEASE EMAIL ME TODAY OR EMAIL STINE FOR DIRECTIONS prior to saturday morning. I'm leaving home tomorrow morning so I'll be out of the loop until we all meet-up on saturday. I figure a good plan is to meet at Stine's between 12:30 and 1pm. We can set a second meeting point up in Chicago proper, that way late arrivials and those who can't make it/can't find Stine's will know where to go. Hopefully Stine will post a good spot in Chicago for the back-up meeting point. I figure 2pm is a good time for the back-up meeting point. In case anyone's wondering, there's a half-dozen of us confirmed for sure, three strong possibles, and two more unsure, and that's just the ones I know about. Come, play with us in Chicago. There will be Red Bull, and quite likely vodka as well. Until Saturday... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 18:23:08 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Chicago picnic Message-ID: <20011010172308.33742.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Hello darlings, Okay. The Chicago picnic this Saturday. I do believe we're meeting up at Stine's house, to carpool into the city & to figure out what exactly we're doing. Museum-ing, drinking, shopping, aquarium-ing, drinking? Her email is toadie291 at home.com. I'm hoping she won't be too put out at giving directions to everyone. Thanks to the lovely Stine for volunteering her home as a meet-up spot. How about early afternoon, like 1:00-ish? That's what time I'm planning on being there, at least. I shall also bring (as yet unspecified treats). Is there anything else we need to know? love, your surrogate picnic mummy. -elise xoxo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ironicmonkeys at xxx.uk Wed Oct 10 18:44:55 2001 From: ironicmonkeys at xxx.uk (kieran devaney) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:44:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Habit is the ballast that chains the dog to its vomit Message-ID: <002f01c151b3$49c30d00$b48287d9@005966420051> Breathing is habit. Life is habit. Or rather, life is a succession of habits... The periods of transition that separate consecutive adaptations... represent the perilous zones in the life of the individual, dangerous, precarious, painful, mysterious and fertile, when for a moment the monotony of being is replaced by the suffering of being... - Samuel Beckett There are loads of reasons why i like that quote, partly because it sounds clever and a just little bit pretentious, but not dangerously so... and in the context of the rest of mr beckett's work it fits perfectly, like a mini manifesto. earlier in the year i went to see 'waiting for godot' at the mac in birmingham, and of the people i went with, one fell asleep and all the others pretty much denounced it as incoherent rubbish... silly them. i like it so much i was tempted to write about it in my english exam in the summer instead of crappy 'death of a salesman' but i couldn't remember it well enough and despite being super cool in class and being a rebel in all my essays, during exams i am a real wimp, you'd hate me. the stuff i write in exams is the type of hollow crap that gets people their grades it's worth it though thats what i keep telling myself anyway, i'm pretty much new, i got my wings and fled the nursery (is that what it's called?) a couple of weeks ago, but one thing or another has prevented me from posting... laziness mostly i guess but everyone here seems so nice and stuff, how could i not say something? one qualm i have is to do with the near cult status that ribena has here... and perhaps you'll say i'm taking ribena much too seriously now, but you know that it's made by smithkline beecham who fund animal testing? i stopped drinking it when i heard that not wanting to sound overly politicised, their advertising net has ensnared john peel too, who i'm sure is everyones hero, since he advertises aquafresh which they make too so sad but i don't want to impose these views on anyone, just please bear it in mind i've digressed, i was introducing myself when you opened the email you might have clicked on kieran which is my name i'm from birmingham in the uk someone a while back commented on how pretty all the cranes look in birmingham city centre and now that i have the chance i will belatedly agree sometimes i hang around town until sunset because there is a kind of skewed beauty when they are silhouetted against the darkening sky... i wont come up with a crap similie because one doesn't really spring to mind so many nice situations are ruined by overly rampant poetic license speaking of poetry somebody showed me this poem the other day I Am the Only Being (1836) I am the only being whose doom No tongue would ask no eye would mourn I never caused a thought of gloom A smile of joy since I was born In secret pleasure--secret tears This changeful life has slipped away As friendless after eighteen years As lone as on my natal day There have been times I cannot hide There have been times when this was drear When my sad soul forgot its pride And longed for one to love me here But those were in the early glow Of feelings since subdued by care And they have died so long ago I hardly now believe they were First melted off the hope of youth Then Fancy's rainbow fast withdrew And then experience told me truth In mortal bosoms never grew 'Twas grief enough to think mankind All hollow servile insincere But worse to trust to my own mind And find the same corruption there - Emily Bronte she wrote wuthering heights too y'know... i think this is proof that if she emily bronte was around now she would be a female morrissey type... or, more fittingly, morrissey is a male emily bronte type, there are definite thematic similarities in their work i think so anyway what else did i want to talk about? oh yeah... the new hefner album this has been causing much consternation in the past week or so since its release, so i wont help by adding my opinion i guess the reaction has been akin to the one from radiohead fans after kid a but as a radiohead fan who loved kid a straight away i can totally dig this new hefner direction... it's not as immediate as the older stuff, and their are a few crap songs on the record, but all in all it's a winner á mon avis also it's interesting to see a band who on paper look like generic indie types really branching out and being sort of experimental i get to see them live on the first of november which should be great, and john peel might even be there too since it's being broadcast on his show i hope so although if i meet him i will undoubtedly make a fool of myself by either embracing him heartily and begging him to sign my face or berate him about advertising aquafresh, despite the numerous apologies on his show, he does it to get his kids throught university he says sorry in advance for any untoward behaviour john isn't applying to university an immensely demeaning and essentially hollow process? it annoys me so much i'm going to save up my bile about it for another post since this one must stay happy oh yeah... i managed to convince my (rich) friend to buy 'if you're feeling sinister' on a whim (i really like whims) and he loves it now so i've instructed him to buy more stuff, and knowing his budget, he will have their entire discography and all the merchandise by the end of the month *sigh* my love for marks and spencer egg and cress sandwiches is tempered only by their cost they are indeed a giant in the sandwich world if only my pocket would run to making them the mainstay of my diet thats all for now i guess, except to say that paul theroux's 'my secret history' is such a good book that you should go out and read it right now, it mentions VS naipaul in it too (under a different name obviously) and i can't think of anything cooler than that i feel as though i should apologise for the length of this post since everyone else does peace and love kieran +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imnicolson at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 20:06:29 2001 From: imnicolson at xxx.com (Ian Nicolson) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:06:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sydney Devine Message-ID: ...and then that Sir Francis Drake, right, him that recorded the album 'Pink Moon' about the time that Catherine the Great rode through Coventry on the back of a naked horse called Lady Godiva on the way to the Crimean War...oh hello there! I was feeling rather pleasant this afternoon, which was a surprise as I was at work. "Jings!", I thought, "I'm feeling rather pleasant and I'm at work. What a surprise!". So I decided to look at my emails, which I really shouldn't have done since interweb access was restricted to lunchtimes a while ago by the people I work for because people (mainly me, I imagine) were using it all the time and not doing any work. The shower of bastards. But I looked anyway and there was one email, a post by our antipodean chum Helen McLean, which I decided to look at because her surname matches my middle name. And Helen used the word 'pleasant' in her post, which made me realise how pleasant I was feeling. Reading her post reminded me of the time when I used to read Sinister posts all the time, when I was at college and had nothing better to do. And it was funny to feel like that cause I've not really been keeping up with Sinister very well of late. I like John Cale. I'm not sure if I like John Cale actually. He might be a bit of a wank. Has anyone on the list ever met John Cale? Please tell us if he's a bit of a wank. Go on! It's these little things that keep us together. I should have said I like John Cale's music. That's not entirely true either. I like some of John Cale's music. The bits of John Cale's music that I like are the bits that aren't wank. A John Cale song that I like is called 'Sylvia Said'. It really reminds me of a Welsh viola player singing a song. It doesn't remind me of Belle & Sebastian very much. Is a viola player called a violainist? Someone once (only once) asked me what the difference between a violin and a fiddle was (is?). I thought it was going to be a joke, but was sorely disappointed. If anyone can think of a punchline then you can win all our admirations and rest in the knowledge that you're far funnier than me. Or at least cleverer. I went to see John Cale a couple of years ago. He was playing music to a crowd assembled in a hall, so I didn't get the chance to find out if he was a wank or not. He didn't play 'Sylvia Said', but he did do 'Hallelujah' which is another song he sings which I like, but he didn't write that one. It reminds me of something that a Canadian Jew might do. Or is it a Jewish Canadian? I don't want to offend anyone. 'Hallelujah' doesn't remind me of Belle & Sebastian either. Another thing I like is the song 'The Trees' by Pulp. It's spiffing! I like it because it's about trees and it sounds big. If you like big sounding songs about trees then you might like it. What it doesn't remind me of is Belle & Sebastian. Have I ever told you how much Richard John Gillanders really doesn't remind me of Holden Caufield? I hadn't realised until today just how sticky-out Serge Gainsbourg's ears were. They're huge! I think I prefer the version of 'Je t'aime...' that he did with Brigitte Bardot to the Jane Birkin one. Belle & Sebastian should cover that song, if they haven't already, with Stevie doing the Serge part. Because he loves it. Sometimes I think I'd like to be French. My brother's going to France tomorrow. I'll ask him if I'd like being French when he gets back. I spent a lot of time on this. Don't blame me. Ian N. ps Is Clive of India still on this list? I do miss his posts. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 20:54:07 2001 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:54:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I wish it was the sixties I wish we could be happy.... Message-ID: <20011010195256.DGXA710.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@there> Hello once again. How's things? I've just been catching up with sinister because I got a bit behind. I saw Dahling in London the other day, me and Dafyd took her to Greenwich to have a mini-picnic, and Daf pretended he knew what all the buildings in London were and we gave her the shittest sightseeing tour ever. Then she tried to take a photo of us but her camera was broke. And then there were no trains back to waterloo and we took a round trip on the Docklands Light Railway and Jubilee line, which involved a change at canary wharf, which was scary when we suddenly found ourselves at the bottom of the tower and it is *very* nice. We felt out of place with the businessmen walking around. It was nice though. Dafyd brought me some presents from another listee which was also fab. Super. The news is a bit depressing recently. Most of it anyway, except the story about Jedi becoming a religion in this country because enough people put it on their census form. Hehehe! I think it's funny anyway. "Boxers or briefs?"...."Nope." So? Boxers or briefs? It's a curious question. Which is the norm? Honestly now? Does everyone assume it's boxers cos that's what the hard kids wear? Do skinny indie boys wear briefs? I mean I do, so that makes one skinny indie boy, but what about the rest of you? Hmm? How about we take sweepstakes on what Ken Chu is wearing then pull his trousers down to find the answer! So Ribena people fund animal testing? This is shocking. I hate ribena anyway, it tastes like sugary water (maybe thats the point). Not the first twee icon to turn sour though, did you know S Club 7 got caught smoking marijhuana in Leicester Square? (old news but just in case you missed it). It thoroughly fits their image I think. And on the news the other day I saw that the Easter bunny isn't real. Can you believe that? It turns out the Powerpuff Girls are actually Russian spies too. Well the band I'm in disbanded and reformed again. It's good this time we have a genius drummer. Super. We wrote a nice song the other day (I liked it anyway). It wasn't about lesbians this time (I actually had nothing to do with the writing of the lesbian song btw), I'm not actually sure was it's about, but it's quite sad. And we did a cover of "You're the one that I want" from Grease. I need to wee. See you later. James xxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 22:58:20 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:58:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: there is a place in hell for me and my friends In-Reply-To: <20011009173842.95428.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011009173842.95428.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011010145820.N13334@24-205-57-185.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com> On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:38:42AM -0700, caleb ben moore wrote: > steely dan? well i'm i'm sure SOMEBODY else my > age in this wide world must. and i'm willing to > bet that they are on this sinister list, reading > this right now. Of course. I remember listening to my father's Steely Dan albums when I was younger... "... when all your dime dancing is through... " Haven't listened to their newer stuff, but my father seems to enjoy it. /me fades back into the shadows m. -- "It's not your money that they're after, boy, it's you." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Oct 10 22:08:33 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:08:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If you Chuse, you Llewse Message-ID: "Daddy, what's an optimist?" said Pat to Mike while they were walking down the street together one day. "One who thought that Laura Llew wasn't going to prance around posting pretending she was Dorthy Parker anymore," replied the absentminded professor, as he wound up the cat and put the clock out. I'm fettered in a flurry of a fluster! Oh how I was all primed to join in the rank and file of sinister sentimantality which has been steadily streaming along! In one hand I have lain a last lone summer bloom of a violet ready to press in between sad tear stained pages and in the other lays my hankerchief (hand embroidered.. in blue). Did you think I could not be nostalgic as well? Did you think that all I suffered in my own little Dogpatch of North Carolina were farmers lolling about with their pigs and daisy duke distilling potent liquor while we all smoked corncob pipes while coping with social climbers and frauds from the outside world? Don't you think I look cute in this new corduroy John Deere hat? Oh how I was going to pine for Peter Miller that is. I had an eulogy ready and everything. *clears throat* My love flew like a butterfly Until death swooped down like a bat As the poet Emma Montana McElroy said "That's the end of that" However, not only did he not leave the list but he's still posting. Fine, Petre - I don't miss you either! ***WIDE WIDE WORLD OF WRESTLING: WILLZEBUBS VERSUS RACHEELS:*** So, now sentimentality has been shoddily set aside and we're drowning in a debacle over names & their puns. (Doesn't that sound like a bad show topic for a talk show? "NAMES: And The Llewsers Who Chu-se Bad Puns For Them - Next on Ella Minnow Pea) To list a few so we can get it out of the way & Will Porter can come out from under his bed: - Fire at Will - Where there's a Will there's a way and then the biblical: - Sacrifice Your Will Even I am susceptible to such follies. Once my roommate was being overly dramatic and complaining of how something was going to kill her so when I tried to nudge her to movement she said, "Not now - I'm writing my Will." I looked at the boy named Will who was in our apartment at the time (I believe he was laying on the floor flapping his arms up and down making carpet angels) and said, "We don't want to hear about your love letters." Jen, I tried to do a direct quote but I can't find it in the archives. However, there was pining for the absence of a Sinister William Harris at the Washington or Oregon picnic earlier. Have you ever met a Will Harris? They're a dodgy sort indeed. I'm not saying they bite but there is a thing called CHAPSTICK KISSES which strike fear in my heart. I've been chased over half the state of Utah but somehow managed to avoid them for the most part. The Will in the story above was a William Harris. Once he asked if I would set him up with a girl who had asked me out a few times. (I suppose he thought she wasn't so picky). So, I tried and she was game until I described Will as tall, dark, and handsome with the clarification of - taller than a pygamy but not as dark as one. She stopped talking to me. In fact, I haven't heard from her in the three years since. Oh well, now Will is married to another girl who I think he's pretty serious about so that's that. ***SINISTER PICNICS: Don't you have ants in England? Why yes, but I never hear from them.*** I was proud to see that I made an appearance at a Sinister picnic. You can see it for yourself at http://robster75.tripod.com/embra3.jpg Though I'm especially fond of Honey, I'm not the bee. No, I'm on Ken's chest (and wondering if he'll make us all proud with a smutty comment about sometime make an appearance on my chest.) Yes! I'm responsible for one of his badges. Let's guess which one I am!! 1. With my feathered hair and turned up collar, am I the quinnessential 80s fan and responsible for "Camera Obscura"? 2. Slide out of my way Jewel Shepherd! Am I the "Porn Star"? 3. With my hotpants, my tube top and fashionable footwear am I all about the purple "bowling" badge? ***NAME CHECKS: My bratwurst has a first name. It's F-R-I-T-Z. My bratwurst has a second name. It's S-C-H-N-A-C-K-E-N-P-H-E-F-F-E-R-H-A-U-S-E-N*** Now it's time for Laura Llew to make random comments on other people's post! Helen hailed, "Although wearing them outside means that you get odd looks and possibly sniggers, but if Pamela Anderson can do it, then dammit so can I." I'm not in anyway a fashion guru but I'm guessing that using Pamela Anderson as an example to justify one's clothing (or lack thereof) choice could get you into trouble Maddie murmered, "Do you want to be a Sinister Super Hero? Can you kick ass/arse? Do you look simply stunning in lycra? Do you have an allitervative name?" Why yes! Yes! (I kick ass. I'm american - we don't have arses.) Yes! (I get stopped on the street frequently to be told how absolutely flattering lycra would be on me) Yes! Can I be the superhero who fights minor crime. None of this saving the world from world domination and international syndication of the Drew Carey Show but the small things - people wearing white after labor day, not using their turn signal, having slightly used girls try to sell your Wockenfuss. Off to save the day, Laura "meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977" PS - Big thanks and llots of llove to Paltry Paul (I'm listening to your cds now. Awww!), Dahling Stacey, Billzebub, Jamesest, Dreamsy Breamsy, PrimitivePainter (who still must post his The State I Am In theory!), my fellow (sister) Spinisterine Vel, and everyone else who thought of me (and Ken who in his ultimate generosity offered to kiss me) last Tuesday. Weeeeeeee! Plus, HUGE SHOUTS, much admiration, love, hugs, kisses, and general overall worship to JIMMY G who had my future cabanna boy, Stuart Murdoch, autograph a ticket to one of the western B&S shows for me. I went so weak in the knees when I saw it.. and then as soon as I regained strength I jumped up and down lots while yippeeying for Glee. PPS - If I post this quickly enough, I'll be right next to James Thorniley on the list of posts in the archives and won't that be cozy? Oh wait - nevermind. Damn you Michael Vance (well, if you're lucky) & Steely Dan - you ruined it all! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 00:18:07 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:18:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sllew Graffiti Message-ID: <001e01c151e1$d3e55c80$400526d9@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> There's a 'pooter in my bedroom that's been on for days upon which I relent and gaze for hours on the darkish humour tones of some Internetty friends So how about it? So is this what I will do in 20 years? Let me please Interpret history in every lines of words that's written there in front of me It doesn't matter what I'm thinking What I tell myself to do I end up writing... I stay in to to defrost the fridge When I'm tired I'd go to bed feeling of dread What if when I come round there's no posts here It's the worst to wake up without any posts to read Listen Kenny You're like a dobber to all those posts you've fallen for And you're still falling Listen Kenny You're like a dobber to all those girls you've fallen for And you're still falling And if they come tonight You'll roll up tight, and read what ever that's coming to you next. Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 06:17:47 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:17:47 Subject: Sinister: The Mix Battle. Message-ID: Hi. I am (though not a rachel,will or chris) would like to participate in the Mix Tape Battle. I just need to be picked by a team, please don't pick me last! on another, yet drawn out note, (promise to be the last, last one) I finally heard the strokes. very very impressed, thought I only had $11.86 in my pocket so I was a dollar short. oh well, sorry to bring this damn thing up again. I am wondering if there are any sinisterees that live in the Santa Barbara area? I don't think I have anything else to say, have fun. tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Thu Oct 11 00:45:41 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:45:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Kale Goes Stale on Rocks called Waves Message-ID: <3BC4DDA5.4BD209DB@netscapeonline.co.uk> Ok, erm,.. woops..eek; tripped up. Gosh! So many fine and Posts, yes. you're rather good you know, like the woman in a basque the other night: you're really rather beautiful and I never really noticed. Well, ok, I did. She was as well. A fiddle is the same as a violin; the difference is contained within the manner of holding it and the composure of one's left wrist [that is, if the player is right handed, and on the sinister list perhaps this isn't the right thing to say] a violinist usually distances the shoulder from the base of the instrument via a 'chin rest' (although some of the best players manage to dispense with this) and their left had is crooked at the wrist so as to facilitate dexterous (!) movement of the fingers up and down the strings and over them. A fiddler, on the other hand, rests his palm on the underside of the neck, which does the job required in folk music but would end up lacking in that required of some of the works in the classical canon. Or so the theory goes. If one progresses to Shoenberg, on can get out a saw instead, and I've heard that the Aphex Twin owns a submarine. Which is more undersea than underhand. "Hullo! What a jolly gigue! Now tell me, is this a periscope here?" Sandy Denny: isn't that a girl? One moment... darnit! he's not on my 'French Affair' double CD compilation but I've seen the name around Pl. Ste. Michel. I'll just have to listen to the theme tune to 'Emanuelle' then. Ooh.. and Je T'Aime.. comes right, left all over afterwards. I should shave but I won't! so there! Veni veni veni wrote the leacherous monks behind Carmina Burana, which reminds me of fiddling... whilst Rome burns, or the madness of King George the III, or, delusions of grandpa. Deleuze-moi. I have an idea.I shall attempt Morningside Crescent. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Thu Oct 11 04:14:12 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:14:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I did a new web page Message-ID: <3BC50E83.1ABC4DB3@netscapeonline.co.uk> http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/gogron/Gordon's/diary2001_11-10-01.htm no text. Takes ages to load. I wanted to make each frame load as an animation but my computer kept crashing. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matt at xxx.uk Thu Oct 11 14:38:09 2001 From: matt at xxx.uk (matt at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:38:09 +0200 Subject: Sinister: No Compass 3 Message-ID: <20011011133809.NUTJ5173.fep07-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Hello. I need all of those who replied to my last message about the lastest issue of No Compass to reply again as my computer at home has crashed and is being repaired, but it'll take a few weeks to get it back and find your e-mails again. Sorry. For those who didn't read last the message, No Compass 3 is out. It's a British 'zine and has interviews with V/VM, Mum (the two girls who appear on the front of the Belle and Sebastian album, "Fold your hands child..." are members of this band) and PostaLowa. It features some music reviews and live reviews including Belle and Sebastian in Ipswich. In the Uk it costs £1 plus 41p postage and for Europe and the rest of the World it'll be different, I'll go check that out. I'm putting out the PostaLowa CD, details on the web site. Also if anyone has any ideas of where to sell the fanzine & the CD ,i.e. shops, mail order people and distributors then please reply too. Cheers, Matt Fanzine - No Comass: nocompass at hotmail.com Label - Spiteful Records: matt at spitefulrecords.fsnet.co.uk www.spiteful.i12.com _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Oct 11 16:47:52 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:47:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Beano on the Radio Message-ID: <010001c1526c$87faf100$d804fd3e@neil> If anyone finds themselves sitting next to a computer with speakers tomorrow (Friday 12th), you could do worse than listen to Hi-Karate radio on.. www.radiomagnetic.com/Listen/index.htm between 4 and 6 PM. There you will find Beans Geddes doing a DJ set. It'll be archived, but it'll be more exciting live. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Oct 11 17:55:21 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:55:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: beano on the radio Message-ID: <012601c15275$847e3740$d804fd3e@neil> Sorry. I being a bit parochial. That's 4 -6 Scottish time. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From killholden at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 17:23:35 2001 From: killholden at xxx.com (pablo espinoza) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:23:35 Subject: Sinister: Los CharliesOrNEWliterature Message-ID: Is there a site where you can get geeky information on equipment used in belle and sebastian recordings? I curious as hell as to what keyboards wee chriss uses in legal man. Or what kid of guitar stu used in the sinister record. I love the posts of Kristen Kenyon, and Astrid , etc etc. I love it that for me, for a long time, their stories embodied all that I really love and appreciate in this cruel world. Such people are really quite brilliant and their writtings leave me wanting more. Recently I discovered that one of my friends is one of these people. Writting about such lovely things as gambling, rocky relationships and radiohead posters hanging from shoe laces in a chain record store. Sorely he doesn't even know he's cool in that way. He'd shoot me if he found out i reprinted this in some pesky mailing list, especially for a band he listens to just so he can get get laid. (by pretty indied chicks no less!) Cheers to all. ************************** Story/Journal Entry/Good Writting starts here ************************** (this is a response after he'd , "much like jesus turning pepsi into coke" turned 100 bucks into 800 in an Southern California Indian reservation casino. ) That whole event has given me an impetus to keep going back. I went last weekend and lost a honeybee. This weekend is looking the same as last. I didn't do much with my winnings. $500 went to my car, $100 back in the casino, $100 on frivolity, and the last bits and pieces are in my wallet. How are you doing? I took yesterday off and watched Joe the King and Training Day. I also won two Radiohead lithographs from the wherehouse. I went to claim them and the store guys kinda jerked my around. "Hey, Monte, winner boy is here. He's won the grand prize?" "Grand prize?" "Yeah. Go fetch this man his GRAND prize." It was two small posters stuck on black construction paper. My "prize" hung from the ceiling via shoelaces. I'm sure some employee thought it was clever and probably was comended for it. It was shitty. I still put them on my wall. How's the bass going and the songwriting? I've practing vocals, but I still need help. Everythings the same. Ellen and I are rocky. and I'm still playing in rascuache. At the last show two girls kinda hit on me. One was obvious. She said band members should be aways be single so the fans could give something back to them. peace out. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From KOdle at xxx.org Thu Oct 11 19:19:24 2001 From: KOdle at xxx.org (Odle, Katharine) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:19:24 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Get out of the office. . . Message-ID: <51DF01F252F0D111B2550008C7F45054013456CB@sdymail.ymca.org> Dear Sinisterines, Today is one of those maddening days when every office cliche seems to be coming true. Having slept poorly (at least that's my excuse for today), I came in about forty-five minutes late. Usually I can slide in and thread my way to my desk without too much notice, but today I got stopped in the hall by a particularly perky Office Slave who tapped his watch, and with a sly Perma-Grin, commented, "Well, guess you're not the early bird getting the worm this morning, huh?! O, well-- it's almost Friday!" Is getting a worm supposed to be an incentive? Also, it's irritating how we're always in the midst of a countdown to Friday, which begins on Monday. No one seems to know what day it actually is-- it's always ___ days til Friday. So then I got back to my desk, and the radio had already been claimed by an office mate. There is a covert radio war going on in my office, which is the size of a small bedroom, but contains five desks and a long "workstation," which is actually a euphemism for "place on which to pile up random crap." On this particular morning, the radio was tuned to an especially soulful R&B station. It always amazes me how many syllables can be contained in one line of an R&B song. For instance, the line, "You are so pretty, girl," (an actual line contained in numerous songs I've heard since 9:15) can be extended to actually contain thirty-five syllables, most of which are in the word "girl." In addition, each syllable has a different note, as the singer's voice travels up and down the range with reckless abandon. It's horrid! However, I suppose I should be grateful that the office Metal Head did not stake her claim on the radio. Those times are the worst. I can't even hear myself think over the drums and screeching guitars, which are puntuated by inane commentary by the djs, who usually make at least one reference to various parts of the female anatomy. Sometimes I am lucky, and everyone else will be out or arrive later than me, and I will get the radio all to myself, and I will play B&S to my heart's content! It's funny-- we never talk about the radio war, and no one ever mentions that they despise the other people's musical taste. We just carry on, and jump at our chances when we have them. Although my supervisor did once make a comment that went like this, "I always know when Katie has the radio, because there's always something weird playing." That seems uncalled for! Last week, I mentioned to dear Rachel Fruitloop that I am undertaking the goal of having more fun, especially mid-week. I am finding it more and more necessary to break up the monotony of the workweek. Last night, i did so by having dinner with two very close friends. It was lovely, because we walked to a little restaurant that was lit entirely by strings of white lights and candles, and we ate good food and drank good wine and laughed and laughed. One of those times that are so sublimely wonderful that you almost remove yourself from it for a moment, and think, "My god, I'm HAPPY!" It was lovely, and much-needed. I hope that you are all doing well, and have some sublime moments of your own today. Love, Katie (Cheeriodle, Honorary Rachel-- ready to do Mix-Tape Battle!) P.S.-- Only two days til Friday. Or so I hear. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 21:12:26 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the tinderbox (of a heart) Message-ID: <20011011201226.7829.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> it's a cool sunny day. the breeze kisses my lazy hair and tries to whisper in my ear, but i won't listen. cause i've got bigger fish to fry..........like LOVE. "and whats so special about this one, then?" you may well ask? well. she's the bee's knee's. thats the sound of my heartbeat that hearing out on the street. ta! caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 22:03:22 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:03:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: You're my favorite Stuart David Message-ID: <10c.6cb8f1c.28f7631d@aol.com> Hi. Hello. There are officially four of those fashionable stuart david impersonaters attending my school. I'm especially fond of stuart number three because he's got the most uncanny resemblance, and a tendency to walk with his head down. I can't ever talk to these people because the realization that not a one of them is in fact stuart david would be too much for me. I find that in going to college having an assumed little fantasy world helps immensely. My friend Jody likes Belle and Sebastian. She usually listens pretty much only to reggae type stuff because she's from Jamaica. She agrees with me that Electronic Renaissance causes involuntary head bobbing. Jody's boyfriend lives nearby. So does my friend Mareika's. I won't deny that I'm jealous as hell. I wish I had taken a year off after high school, moved to england, then started college. I don't feel like going home at all anymore. I find that my house makes me feel listless and depressed. This could have something to do with being in my house undoubtedly involving scrutiny and arguments with my mother. Convincing my mother of anything is as difficult as teaching a hippo to do gymnastics. Of course it's all worth it in the end when you a presented with the pure visual comedy of a hippo holding itself perfectly still upsidedown on the rings. It's even better once you get him to do the uneven bars. The Will&Rachel&Chris&Bob&Eustace&Lucius etc. tape contest sounds very exciting. I remember there was another Kara on this list at some point. We were going to take over the world, but that plan for world domination fell apart like so many others. What are we going to do tonight Kara? The same thing we do every night Kara... In the world of mixtapes, I am still hoping to make sinister mixtape. Several people expressed to me a desire to have their own music put on the tape, and so far only KenChu and Ben Apps have delivered. I was delighted to receive Mr. Apps tape as getting mail is one of the highlights of my entire life here at school. I vote that Ben Apps be named most huggable on this list (aside from my personal choice for a hugging partner, the wonderful Peter Carter.) So yes, if there are still those of you out there who want to send me your music, email me. Otherwise I'm going to go ahead and make the tape. I saw a red bull ad on tv the other day Ken. I think it helped some vikings row across the whole ocean or something. love and vikings, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Thu Oct 11 22:59:29 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:59:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what did I make of the cool set in london Message-ID: Hello ribena-drinking, jaffa-cake-munching tweefolk, So I've been silent of late, and apologies to anyone who is waiting for me to write letters/send toys, I've been mired in a spirit ditch of late. It got so bad that my impenitrably accented doctor has put me on prozac (I'm such a bleeding stereotype!) but the funniest thing has to be the box it comes in, bright orange with seventies designs all over it (surely designed to throw you into the pit of despair!) It's my own fault really, as I refused the other stuff he offered me as it came in gelatine capsules (his argument was 'eees only a leetle bit!') hmph Mike's campaign to Make Jules Happy has been successful, we went to london to visit my friend Alice and her boyfriend martin. He had the Lucksmiths, a posse of twee australians who you've probably never heard of staying in his pokey 'big for london' flat while they played some gigs there. We saw them play at some place called spitz, but martin didnt play because the other half of his band was in leeds or something. Airport girl played, and I growled at the rude londoners for talking while they sang. Then I went and chatted to Tali, who got the guilts about the fact that their tshirts were somewhere across the atlantic. So I bought some singles, and gave them to Mikey. Then Mikey saw Darren from Hefner get turned away from the venue because it was full, and felt smug because we had better contacts that the stroppy one from hefner- yaay (Jack is so much nicer, and he isnt at all scared when you interview him for a student paper and offer toys while asking bizarre questions about daytime television). Then tali and his minimal band bounced onto the stage, and he sang and played drums, which is pretty bloody impressive if you ask me! We jumped about a lot and martin got really drunk and danced around the PA system. We were invited to go see them again when martin's band would be supporting, but that would clash with seeing hefner in manchester... We staggered back to alice's, a little addled but in good humour, and went to some car boot sale in the morning. I bought alice some fuzzy felt and a noah's ark game and bought mike some beads. Then on the coach journey home we had to wait in a layby of the M1 for two hours for an AA man to come look at a loose wheel nut (according to the driver, it could have been 'slightly fatal' to leave it) but made it home by midnight, and the cats had missed us. aww. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssonner at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 01:03:17 2001 From: ssonner at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:03:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the laziness of a massive-novel reader Message-ID: Sinister: Like many, I am filled with angst. Like some, I am in London. Like the witty, I will rely on HEADINGS, LIKE AEOLUS It's been ages since my last de-lurk. Apologies for disappointing those of you who opened this message expecting it to be from Ken Chu, and then also apologies to Mr Chu himself for stealing his time-honored subject style. I have an alliterative name though, does that get me something? Perhaps if I were blessed with my own personal Editor I would know such things as deadlines, and even editing, and would rally my wit in this forum more than once per annum. I would ask Peter Miller to oblige, but I bet he's already booked solid, and I couldn't take it if he left again. SHOVE IT I'm behind the times, but I only just got ahold of Jonathan David. The clock song is my favorite, by far, and I know I'm echoing other people in the archives when I say I'm disappointed in the version of "Loneliness" that was included. I prefer my scratchy taped Tube copy, cause there they sound like they're having some fun. What's that feeling you get when you hear something and you realize you just have to hear it several times every day for at least the next month or you won't be able to breathe? I was hoping it would happen with JD and renew flagging faith, but maybe next time. WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED BY SOME "THE NEW STROKES" I missed it the first time around, and heard the live recording of the White Stripes just the other night. (During one of my weeknight dates with John Peel.) I never thought anything could remind me of both the Cramps and Bobby Conn. (The latter being a unique entertainer local to Chicago.) It managed to make me get up and move around my room like the rock 'n' roll dork that I am. (Those of you attending the LondonIndieUSA thing tomorrow also risk seeing such movement. If I drink. Enough.) Though I couldn't help but notice the formula of blues guitar licks + catchy drum beat + quirky vocals + pithy lyrics = time-tested rock recipe. Not to diss it--maybe it's about time I appreciate a good tune just because and not question things so damn much. "KANSAS CITY" So, just a guess here that no one else was engrossed by the A&E "biography" of Lieber & Stoller, with all its mention of the Brill building and such? Admittedly, that was broadcast in America back in August, when I was "away." I was surprised to find out how much of pop music's "standards" they'd written, and how they didn't really want to write for Elvis anymore after a certain point, because he was too popular and they'd rather write "dirtier" songs. Is it the song's writer that influences, or the musicians that play it? I LOVE THE CITY And these questions of latest big indie things and who's writing the popular songs now got me thinking about Hefner. I still think Darren writes good songs, even if now the band plays them with more things plugged in than before. His songs hold up pretty well as such, nevermind instrumentation. Perhaps in the sixties he would have been one of those guys hired by a studio just to write, the payola men having perhaps peremptorily dismissed his voice as unfit for radio of the day. I don't have the album yet, just the Alan Bean single, but I love the last part of "A Better Man," and the combination of everything there. Those minutes are like a really good milkshake. Hmm, that image was much more wholesome than I thought myself capable of, and certainly more wholesome than Hefner deserve. FROM THE HEART OF THE AMERICAN METROPOLIS And having now arrived in a postcode near some of you, I'll make my way to Farringdon on Friday. I was planning to go by foot, but my Luddite--or is it Amish--ambitions will probably be quashed by my predominant laziness. If anyone wants to meet up for pre-event libations, give a shout. It's a shame for a lady to drink alone you know, and I've spent too many nights, chin in hand, wondering where one must go to dance to Ladytron and their ilk in this town. 1 2 3 4 baby see you later, xo Sarah (and sorry too for the following list abuse) PS 1: If Velocity Girl is around, could you send me your address? I want to finally say hello and thank you properly before I swoon from guilt. PS 2: David Strange, I've lost your e-mail as well. Darn transatlantic moves. Let me know if you're out there. I'm losing everything, even my train of _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 01:22:01 2001 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:22:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Glasgow listees; November 9th? Message-ID: <6c.11580e01.28f791a9@aol.com> Hi, I hope this isn't tantamount to list abuse, but there is a story attached to this; the first time i ever posted to sinister i asked if anyone wanted to help me put on an indie night in glasgow... so... well, this is for all the folks who replied to me... I finally managed to sort it out, and it'll be called The National Pop League. at the risk of repeating myself for anyone who follows the jeepster forums too... (clears throat) Anyone who kicks around Glasgow will know that there are hardly any nights playing old fashioned indie you can dance to. So I've decided to put on one myself. It's on Friday 9 November, from 9pm till 2am, at the Woodside Social Club. Which is about a minute's walk from Kelvinbridge underground station. And we'll play shillyshallying C86-ish stuff like Talulah Gosh and The Shop Assistants, and lots of Belles stuff, and Smiths, and lots of noisy stuff, and lots of deft chord-surfing indiepop, and occasional hot cuts from the Electric Boogaloo series, and Hot Butter by Popcorn, and old punk records, and the Aislers Set, and Dexy's, and and just about any request we can meet. It'll cost ya £2 to get in, and if you need any more info, get in touch, because if lots of folk come we can put it on regularly. Mark it down as a civic duty. Oh, and if anyone would like to help publicise in any way, let me know and I'll let you in for nip and buy you a drink. (ends announcement) so if anyone wants to help, or lend support, or say hello, or get more info, or ask for a song to be played or anything like that, please mail me off list. and thanks for your indulgence. mouche. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From booga14 at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 12:06:05 2001 From: booga14 at xxx.com ('Baby face' Bambino) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:06:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Get out of the office. . . Message-ID: Hey sinisterians, Reading Katie's e-mail this morning really brightened my mood. I was having a terrible morning. The greedy, ugly hounds that are the Student Loan's Company tried to take money from me last year and I ended up getting fined �65 by my bank. I've been trying to claim this money back ever since but to no avail. I received another totally ununderstanding letter from them this morning. But anyways... Yes... I heartily agree with Katie's call for more midweek fun. It's easy to fall into the trap of spending Monday to Friday wishing it was the weekend. But, we shouldn't be wishing our lives away like this. I don't want to look back on my life and regret spending 5/7ths of it 'willing' it to be the weekend. Life's too short. I also thought her comments regarding R&B were very, very funny but I would suggest that garage music is a much greater evil. Maybe, garage falls under the category of R & B... I'm not sure. I have actually taken the painful step of sacrificing listening to my two buddies Mark and Lard on Radio 1, because the station has been totally taken over by garage and R & B. That's about it for now. Thanks, Katie. Take care all, Tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 15:51:56 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:51:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Friday Fun and Frolics in Farringdon Message-ID: <20011012145156.88644.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Darling Sinister, You're all so lovely, kind and caring, as well as being fun loving popsters and popstrels. This is why those of you who are in London must go to LondonIndieUSA, tonight at the Betsey Trotwood pub in Farringdon! Kill two birds with one stone: have bouze, larfs and dancin' while contributing lovely lolly to the International Red Cross. There will be some twenty DJs including numerous current and ex-Sinisterines, loads of your favourite choons and also a raffle! Come, come, my ladies and gentlemen. I'm not going to say anything else because I am 200 messages behind and I don't want to say anything that somebody has said already, but if somebody's said something already about LondonIndieUSA, hell, I don't care. Juicy Lucy ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Oct 12 17:26:49 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:26:49 Subject: Sinister: you know that i love you! Message-ID: <172193000@spray.se> Hello hey sweeties! YES, I´m back, more confused and with more stupid spellingmistakes than ever! "It may be silly, but I do it anyway". I´m listening to a really grate popsong called Some days are made for smoking. Even though I don´t smoke, never tried smoking and won´t ever start smoking, I can relate to it. It´s really good. Oh yes. This week has been quite good, I´ve actually understood something in Maths. I mean, I´ve been in the "best mathsgroup" since I started my school, but It´s like... About two years ago, I started not to understand what the teacher was all about, I didn´t get a thing and haven´t since then, but now I´m really starting to feel good about it again, and I do understand it now. I feel so CLEVER again, and it certainly is a good feeling. Speaking of mixtapes; I´m making one for Tom a.k.a Corduroy Boy and he asked me to put good swedish music that I like in it. I do not know how to react to it. I can´t decide it it feels lovely and like a grate amount of fun and thinking about what he might like and what would be good is nice, or if I just have major angst. I do think the first, I think about it all the time. I really do, and I´ve have some grate songs to put on it. Just hope he likes it! I´m making a short movie for my mediaclass together with my long-time friend Anna who copies me loads with everything I do, a screamy girl called Moa who is fun to be with, a stupid girl called Linda who I don´t really know, but I know she reads very slowly and always laughs in a very weird way, and with a so so so so sweet boy named Oscar, he´s so shy and cute that you just want to hug him. He has the lead part in our movie. I love our movie, but we are just in writing the manuscriptpart of it all. But It´s going ot be really good. Well, at least according to me. I´m making a bag in our.. er.. oh I can´t say it in english.. class where we knit and make stuff and clothes and bags and all that kind of things. Sod it. Anyway, my bag that I´m making is striped and looks really nice. I´m going ot make a little red print in one of the corners. I couldn´t decide if letting it say Astrid or B&S, but I chose Astrid. Oh, by the way, I checked in the sinister photogallery, and the Astrid there is NOT me, nope. So, I´m not a bluehaired girl. I´m a brownhaired swedish girl. Yup. When people say they like your posts, I get so happy. I really do. Sinister is more than some usual mailing list. I try to read all of the posts that I get, but I don´t have the time always, which is just sad, I love to read sinister posts. I love sinister! And I love you lot! My band and I are becoming really close now. It´s lovely, they are not forcing me to play punk. We have one kind-of-punk-song which is called Acthung Bitte. It´s hilarious! BUt we are working on a song that I´ve written and I´ve out music to it as well. I feel like a real musician, hee hee. Oh yes, I know I´m silly but I´m just 15! I only sing things that are true... Yes, I AM quoting again. Tonight I´m going to stay in, I don´t feel like going out at all, and that´s why I´m being the best kid in the world and going over to my grandma to watch a video with her and eat sweets and drink lemonade. She´s so kool, and really smart. Old people can be so nice to hang ou with sometimes. Tomorrow I´m being cultural with my friend Marika and going to a museum to watch an exhibition, and walk around in Stockholm. In the eveing, our band are celebrating our one month anniversary, and we were planning to inviting some people and get drunk, but since 1/3 of the band can´t make it, we have to celebrate next friday instead. so the other 2/3 of the band are going to watch a video instead. Hmmm. Lots of videos.. Sunday is just going to be lazy and nice, ah. I quite like sundays, but no one else seem to. Sometimes it really SUCKS to live in Sweden. Especially when I think of Tom, because he´s like the nicest boy, EVER. *Sigh deeply*. But then, Sweden is a quite nice country. We have lots of, er, forests, and, some really grate music, oh, plus I can listen to music in swedish and ENGLISH and understand both! School is alright, I quite like it at the moment. Media is my favourite lesson of the week, well, most of the time. And not just because we have such a beautiful teacher, well, that helps as well, but it´s grate to talk about movies and stuff like that. We´re going to see breakfast club and kids, I am a bit ashamed to say that I´ve never seen breakfast club. But I will have, soon! Oh, before I end this post: Stupid mishearing: Dirty dream # 2: Stuart sang: could you put a name to someone else´s sigh? and Astrid always sang: could you put a name to someone else´s eye? and I thought it was just Stuart being very weird, haha. I only just realised when Tom sent me his story to my website. Take care all, I love you! Astrid xxx --- http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling it´s not where dreams come true, but it´s about B&S! --- _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet pÃ¥ http://www.spray.se Ny chatt pÃ¥ Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 16:33:05 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: and then along comes mary..... Message-ID: <20011012153305.61545.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> i work in an accounting office in downtown minneapolis. all i do is stand in front of a giant copy machine all day and make thousands of copies of whatever people want. mainly financial statements. ocassionally pictures of Dusty Springfield. it's horribly boring but at least i get to listen to the radio. every friday morning the local non-commercial radio station plays 3 hours of non-stop zydeco and cajun music. i don't know if any of you are familiar with zydeco, but i love it. it puts me in such a good mood! all that french howling and accordian.... get to work, eat an egg & bacon biscuit, knock back a few red bulls, turn on the radio and make some copies..... on non-zydeco days i listen to 770 radio k, and they play all my requests. alot of smiths and b&s, and clientele. in other news....... This sentence is false. think about that one for a minute. strange isn't it? how many of you out there are married? i'm curious. i'm standing in a wedding tommorrow and i've been thinking alot about how it must feel to actually be the one getting married. it must feel like the night before your first day of high school. maybe not, but thats how i look at it. i'm nervous cause i have to wear a tuxedo in front of everyone! i hate being constricted.....and without my scarf to protect and warm my vulnerable neck! anyway, i'm rambling........you all should go out in the sun or the mist or the gray day and listen to The Association, ok? it's a perfect day for making out....... ta! caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 18:27:37 2001 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:27:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: one last thing about chicago Message-ID: <37.1c3b7f46.28f88209@aol.com> Ok as for all us kids who don't live in Lombard or the western burbs but the actual city where do you want to meet up? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 18:31:56 2001 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:31:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: sorry hit send by mistake (chicago meet up) Message-ID: <6b.1bfe0814.28f8830c@aol.com> Ok as for all us kids who don't live in Lombard or the western burbs but the actual city where do you want to meet up? I've talked to Stine about where to meet up with the crew coming from her house and she told me to repost my Lincoln Park Idea. I was saying earlier in the week that Lincoln Park is probally a better idea to meet up in because it has the Zoo which is free and the Conservatory as well also free. It is also closer to bars and resturants anyhow that's just my thought. So what does everyone thing and what time are we meeting. adam P.S. I don't think we've made final plans have we? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 19:19:27 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 19:19:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I wanna Be Rachel Floppydiskdrive Message-ID: <20011012182728.FTBP29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.252.201.18]> I am definitely going to be a Rachel, if they'll have me ( don't get me wrong, I like the Wills( and the Chrises(?)) as much as anyone else, I just think Rachel's a cooler name. And you don't get to make up your own surname with the Wills). I think the mix tape idea rawks. (I show my talent for using a piece of slang only after everyone else has stopped using it) but I don't imagine it's just a B&S tape, is it? Because if so, some poor person will be left with only "Beyond the Sunrise" as all the good songs will have been taken already. 'Travels on the Underground or, "Why is it that people on seats on the tube always get off after you?"' is the title of my new book. I admittedly haven't wriiten the book yet but am sure it's very good, at all non-existant bookstores NOW! (Non-existant bookstores sell books that don't exist, they exist themselves, obviously)(I suspect I don't know how to spell non-existant). SAM WALTON, Is that you in NME this week? Talking about Oasis and saying they're no good now? "I'll have a double Maths with Extra Chemistry and French, please", I was thinking of saying to the epsilon-minus semi-moron at MacDonalds today, but I didn't, Not that I'm a regular Mcdonald's customer, you understand. I am doing a lino-printing thingie in Art today and have decided only to use the colours Red, white and Black, at least for some of it. I am thinking of doing repeats of the ones that look best in the end and sending them off to the White Stripes, maybe they will use it as their next cover (hopeless dreaming) 'Sinister' has, omigod, become a sort of catchphrase with the posse-boys at my school. It worries me, as these lot are all such (expletive Deletive, like on Radio4)s! I also am not sure if there is another word for posse-boys, but I think it's quite a good name if there isn't. Posse-boys are boys who hang around, go out with, posse-girls. I have had that Modjo tune in my head all day, I like it, but It's irritating me sooo much. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 20:19:41 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Chufactor Message-ID: <20011012191941.75378.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> HELLO SINISTER!!!!! I just want you all to know that I'm so happy to read every single one of your posts! I appreciate the fact that there is room to be silly (as you know I am) serious, poetic, informative, creative and sweet. Sinister is a grate place to be. There have been a lot of posts lately, and I had some things to say about some of them! First, A shout out to the Sweden posse, AN, Astrid and Daniel!! I hope you get a picnic together! It would be so fun to read about! Kirsten Kenyon said: "maybe i'll publish my own bible someday, complete with bosch paintings and little knock-knock jokes in the footnotes, and a handy ring-bound day planner with photo sleeves sandwiched between malachi and matthew." I am picturing a new sect starting up, studying the Kirsten Kenyon version of the bible and I'm trying to imagine what that congregation would look like! This struck me as being extremely funny!! mmmmmm, sacralicious! There were some really wonderful posts from Gordon, I was really impressed when Gordon wrote: "The world is too cynical to recognise a straightforward failure and too daft to see a subtle success. I'd be the world on both points were it not for... dreams." I think that speaks for so many of us, doesn't it? And new "Honorary Rachel", Shannon Pop-tart, HR wrote: "While it's not raining now, the air is thick and heavy, and surely it will during the night. I hope I wake to thunder, and raindrops pattering on the window. That would be perfect. Even more perfect than right now, that is." I wish we would get a good storm here in the L.A. area... Shannon, your description has me longing to wake up to stormy sounds! The summer is still clinging to us here, though. It is extremely windy and hot today. Let the brush fires begin!!! Robster Brennan wrote a grate post!! The final paragraph did me in. Especially where he said: "I began to think of cities laid waste and human suffering. I wanted to think of things that didn't make me feel like the world was bigger and uglier than I could handle." I find myself trying desperately not to think about this war too much because it's sickening and I feel really helpless. The thought that this war could go on for years is a little hard to conceptualize, nor do I want to. I might as well just go into hibernation until the world is a better place... but that would probably be until hell freezes over. It makes me sad. I am finding that I'd much rather live my life like a movie in my head. Sir Richard Gillanders wrote something that really tickeled me: "adding 'pal' to the end of a sentence can make it seem threatening. or just rude. unless you can do it in a post-ironic way. try it yourself." Ok! I am finding that I'd much rather live my life like a movie in my head, pal! Jarkko wrote some heavy sentiments down. I got to thinking about not liking Belle & Sebastian anymore because it reminds me of HIM. Now I have 2 people I think of mostly when I listen to the music. I tried not to let it get to me, though I did go off of them for a few months after the heartbreak from said boy #1. But now, Belle & Sebastian mostly just reminds me of ME and these days I'm pretty easy to deal with. For me, anyway. You take care of yourself, you're worth it. Archel Toast posted my most favorite statement yet: "'hey, i'm NAKED here, lady'" or she can try it a'la Richard Gillanders "hey I'm naked here, PAL!" I find the term "Lady" to be just as derogatory as "Pal" is, personally... I use it quite often while driving! Even when telling little kids to get out of the street "Hey, move your bike, LADY" and she's eight! That cracks me up. And yes, I'm a lame-ass! Katie the finger cutter said: "I also organized all my art for the AP art application I need to fill out this week. And I then realized that I am not as good as I thought I was, so I painted and came up with new ideas to build a portfolio." This is always good. As an artist, you will constantly be reworking your portfolio, and I doubt that you will ever look through it and feel that you're as good as you thought you were. At least, that's what always happens to me! Ian Nicolson said: "Someone once (only once) asked me what the difference between a violin and a fiddle was (is?). I thought it was going to be a joke, but was sorely disappointed. If anyone can think of a punchline then you can win all our admirations and rest in the knowledge that you're far funnier than me. Or at least cleverer." The difference is a jug of moonshine that is 3/4 gone, I believe! ;) James Thorniley wrote about a rather thorniley subject: "So? Boxers or briefs? It's a curious question. Which is the norm? Honestly now? Does everyone assume it's boxers cos that's what the hard kids wear? Do skinny indie boys wear briefs? I mean I do, so that makes one skinny indie boy, but what about the rest of you? Hmm? How about we take sweepstakes on what Ken Chu is wearing then pull his trousers down to find the answer!" Are we taking bets? I'm going to guess briefs! and speaking of Ken's underwear... LAURA LAURA LLEW, WHERE ARE YOU? I *love* Laura's post even though they're few and far between these days! I have to say that I find Laura to be extremely clever and I love anyone who can refer to themselves in third person, but especially Laura. I kind of wish she was a Rachel, she's *that* cool! But a rose by any other name... A shout out to Tyler Rentz!! Kirsten Kenyon is beautiful. Didn't you know? And according to her, she is "mario andretti in an ally sheedy parka" and you gotta love a girl like that! Now it's time for something I like to call *************DIDN'T CHU KNOW?******************** A fool and his red bull are soon parted... so be smart and mix yours with vodka, please! **************ON THE 'BATTLE OF WILLS' FRONT************ I have gotten some responses from you Sinisterines about the Battle of Wills v. Rachels v. Christophers, and it's shaping up to be a real scream! I still need to know if Ken will be the judge and if anyone else wants to participate in making the mix tape. It's not going to be as hard as it sounds, I promise! And it's not going to be an entire tape of The Strokes, White Stripes and Hefner, either! Well, maybe... You want to know something so twee? Elise and her Sinister love, Sean are together in Wisconsin right now! Yippeee! Another twee thing about list romance... Colin Boy is *so* adorable... but he's probably two-timing me this weekend with another Sinister girl, the illustrious Amy Bancroft!!! *sigh* Oh well, tomorrow I'm seeing the ever-charming Sinister nursery dweller, Ryan, whom will make himself known once he's able to, I'm sure! So, I guess it's only fair... We will be with you at the Chicago picnic, in spirit! Tell us all about it kids!!!! Shout outs to the Rachel posse! the wee Rachels Grapenut and Cornflake, Rachels UK Sunny Side Up and Archel Toast and soon to be UK Rachael from Australia who has no breakfast name yet! And of course the honorary Katie Cheeriodle, HR and Shannon Pop-tart, HR! And you too, Will "Rachel Porridge" Salt! !Viva Rachels! Shout outs to all of you who read this whole post, too!!! I adore you! Love to you all (and kisses for Colin!) Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 20:57:12 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Open days are far aways... Message-ID: <20011012195712.68141.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Will Salt said: "Maybe I should invite listees to move in, and she'd stay away all the time." Disturbingly enough, this post coincided with my decision to let one fly on the site. Hello and welcome. EDINBURGH OPEN DAY Being a wee southern jessie, i am catching the bus tuesday evening to arrive for the open day on the wednesday. I've got a place, but i'm going with a friend who's applying, y'see, and she's scared. We'd like to stay over in the city. Well, we have to. Our tickets say so. The problem is that we'd very much like to see the night-type places to go. This problem extends to the fact that most B&B's (and the youth hostel) lock us out at 11pm. Pleeeeeeeeeeease can anyone recommend any places where we can get a bed and then stay out till 3am before returning? Of course, if any edinburghy listees could offer us a piece of floor, i'm sure some presents, cd's, booze etc. would be forthcoming. Do i sound desperate? I fully encourage begging... I hope someone can help, since it'd be a copout to travel for 12 hours only to stay in once we ge there... Oh, and if any listees are actually going to the open day, can you email me? I've got 36 hours to kill once i get into the city, only a small fraction of which do i have plans for. Plea over, now for the rambling. I haven't posted since, as the politicians darkly call it, "the events of September 11th". However, i was pleased to read your comments. I adopted a new yorker to share my sympathy with, as i have problems with expression. and impressions. I said, all pandora left was hope, so what else can we do? CD's really really have been posted! to all of you except a couple, who i'm waiting on replies to see if you really want them, or want others as well. On this note, i now have a bootleg of Elbow/Goldrush and Spiritualized. I saw 3 gigs last week, and didn't bootleg the Beta Band as i decided to drink wine all evening instead. Wine A drink i always rejected as girly, but my new programme of tolerance has led for me to discover that it isn't really that bad...especially after 7 glasses in a hot gig venue. Travelling. I suppose now is the time, as my pleas grow thick with desperation, to mention that next year i intend to travel the world. Thus, any listees in Russia, India, China, Japan, Egypt, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Mexico, USA and Canada that would be interested in meeting me (and perhaps offering me a floorboard to sleep on) are welcome to email me. I have an extensive array of bribery to make it worth your while. forward your demands, and they will be met post-haste. If no-one mails, i suppose i'll just trudge along. But since i have only met 2 listees (one of which i was romantically involved with for many years, the other i managed to chat with for 5 minutes at the 3rd festival we both attended), i'd love to raise the stakes with some international-listee-meetings! Well, this has gone far enough. While the will jokes are funny, they still don't beat the "Nicholas girls shouldn't climb trees" joke which infected my first 10 years of life... All the best, Love Niko xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 21:05:33 2001 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:05:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lucksmiths in Glasgow Message-ID: <151.25dfe73.28f8a70e@aol.com> Hi I don't know if this has been mentioned, ot if it's even had much publicity, but The Lucksmiths are playing in Glasgow on October 24... ummm... I think it's in The Postgraduate Club in Glasgow University and (get this!) it only costs three pounds! I think if you email dani at ecosse.net you can find out more. Which is what I'm about to do. Sorry for the vagueness. mouche +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 21:14:36 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: jeepster creepsters...... Message-ID: <20011012201436.68986.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> well i was bored on my lunch break as usual and went to the jeepster chat room. for the first time mind you. i began talking to someone in the room and they asked me if i was a belle and sebastian fan and i of course said "oh yes, i'm quite sinister." and they said, "what do you mean?" so i said " it's a term used to describe b&s super-fans" they replied "i'm quite familiar with the term." so i asked, "are you on the sinister list?" they replied, "uh, ....no." so i said "oh you should be, it's a very nice warm close-knit community" and then the person said the kicker: "i've made a conscious decision NOT to join the list. we around here feel it's SO pubescent." pubescent. she actually used that word. i had no idea that there was beef between the jeepsters and the sinisters.......suddenly i felt like i was surrounded in enemy territory! i hid in the shadows and made a hasty exit while no one was looking...... so could someone please explain the history here? i'm intensely curious to know about this rift between the fans.......... long live the sinister nation! ta! caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From areservoirdog at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 21:14:34 2001 From: areservoirdog at xxx.com (Timothy Meskers) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:14:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Excitement all around. Message-ID: Hi everyone; It's been a little while since I've posted anything, just wanted to say hello and tell you what I've been up to lately. TRAVIS SHOW So I saw Travis last weekend down at the Electric Factory. They aren't one of my favorite groups or any- thing but I do really enjoy them. In the queue some- one commented on my homemade Belle & Sebastian patch, which was very refreshing. I was asleep in the audi- torium at school the other day and this girl kept calling me Sebastian in an attempt to wake me up. I guess she thought Belle was my girlfriend. I told her they were a band, and she should listen to them and she just sort of nodded. So it was refreshing to talk to someone who liked them, let alone knew they were a band. Let alone didn't think that I was Sebastian. Travis were a lot of fun live, I was amazed at their thorough rock-and-roll-ness. They really put on an excellent show. We waited outside for a spell and eventually they came out, Fran wearing a huge black wig which was a bit of a laugh. I gave him a hug just because, and Dougie said he lost one of his button badges while he was onstage so I gave him one of mine off my bag. He put it on his denim jacket. "You're a *____ing king," he said, in his wonderful accent. I hope he keeps it. I'd be thrilled to see him on t.v. sporting a little I Love New Jersey pin. I gave him a hug too. Such nice guys! So we walked back to our car and drove home, very happy about our night. And we didn't get lost either. A WALK IN THE PARK I got a job working for the National Park Service, in the library. It's pretty fun. It's a nice change of pace from the CD store, which I no longer work at. They got a cool new book in about Spiders and I encourage you all to come in and visit me. I'm scared of spiders in real life but we can look at it. You will agree that it is nicely done indeed. MY CAR Is sadly being taken apart due to the fact that it would stall whenever it came to a stop sign, or whenever I took a turn slowly, forcing me to drive through stop signs and/or at speeds of excess. It will hopefully be back together by the end of the weekend. I'M THRILLED To hear posts from Astrid and Will "Gneissy" Salt. Keep up the good work guys, your posts are quite endearing. This post actually had *the f-word in it quite startlingly placed, but I erased it when I started to think of Astrid maybe writing lyrics for her punk band or doing whatever she does and reading it and saying, "How rude," although, in Swedish, because I think Swedish has a nicer sound than English. At least, the way I speak it. Speaking of Sweden, the (International) Noise Conspiracy is coming back to Philadelphia. I'm bursting at my proverbial seams with excitement. That actually was relevant because they actually are Swedish. THE OCEANS FILLED FULL OF MONSTERS Been reading: Irvine Welsh: Glue v/a: Children of Albion Rovers (there's a few s/s in there i didn't care for, though) David Sedaris: Me Talk Pretty One Day. I'm not done yet but so far I like it. Been listening to: Locust: Flight of the Wounded Locust 7" Graham Coxon: The Sky is too High (Has anyone heard his new one yet? I can't get it over here.) The Rentals: Seven More Minutes Everything Belle & Sebastian goes without saying, of course. Anyways, there's a show tonight at Alex T's, so I'm going to go get ready. I hope you're all well. Love, Timothy. xoxo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carle at xxx.com Fri Oct 12 21:35:33 2001 From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:35:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the original Death Cab For Cutie strikes back! Message-ID: <3BC75412.E66F3F89@rcn.com> (still mired in the backlog of weblog ) and yet another piece of the sinisterine chapel comes into view out of the rubble of the big apple (sliced) hello all. This goes out to the increasingly rare geezers and geezettes among the dispatchers and dispatchees. It was on the birthday of John Lennon that me mate and me went off to hear the next best thing (arguably) in the person of Neil Innes. I could cite the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band as a major influence on my salad days, but that would short his work with Monty Python as well. (I mean, at an audience request he even did "Brave Sir Robin" to end with the aside, "I canÂ’t believe it took some of the best minds of Oxford and Cambridge to come up with those lyrics ") And if I say "The Rutles," there should be a rousing cheer and occasion cause enough for heads to nod in agreement to the aforementioned overweening enthusiasm spasm. You see, whist in the throes of ecstacy (not phramochemically induced), it occurred to me that the same reason I have an affection for the Beatles is the same reason I love B&S: great huge whopping catalogs of tunes of ultra-high quality in such a fantastic variety. Which brings me back to Neil. You see, as much as The Rutles were a parody of the Beatles, they were a truly stunning parody, and InnesÂ’ innate melody skills and talent for copying the Fab FourÂ’s style and riffs could give the brothers Gallegher a run for their money. (And just to prove that it isnÂ’t just one Oasis that he visits, that it isnÂ’t just one field of study that he specializes in, he also showed an uncanny ability to ape the Elton John-Bernie Taupin stylee with an eerily familiar-but-brand-new number called "Godfrey Daniel." I mean stunning.) But, of course, it was when he let the Dog out that I was happiest. "Urban Spaceman" opened the show with Georgia and Ira on slide whistles. (Oh, I forgot to mention that Yo La Tengo was his backing band.) And yes, he did look mighty spiffy in his silver-grey mop-top cut. At the conclusion of the number, "Well, that does it for the Show Biz part of the show " and prompty removed the wig to reveal a chrome dome. "Wot? DonÂ’t laugh—there are people all over California who look like that." And itÂ’s a good thing he did. Otherwise how would he be able to put on the duckÂ’s head for "How Smart To Be An Idiot" and a Stetson for the "Donkey Song" (which defies immediate description). ThereÂ’s that showmanship thing that never leaves the stage for long, and, in that, I guess I still see faint shadows of Lennon the Prankster. Still, the songs To go from "Idiot" to "Doubleback Alley" to "YouÂ’re So Pusillanimous" to "Cheese & Onions" to "Humanoid Boogie" is like saying: so what else can you do to keep me grinning like a lunatic? And it shouldnÂ’t go without re-mentioning Yo La Tengo. Ira confessed (on his only mike speech) that the week spent with Neil was one of the best he could recall in a long time and that Neil responded with a remark that Ira had made about them "being the best band around in their price range." Nobody who watched Ira go into his amplifier hunch on the psychedelic Rutles/BonzoÂ’s numbers would doubt that. Yes, a grand night for us anglophiliac geezers. You should check him out if he passes by (with or without the back-ups) and the websiteÂ’s funny too. (www.neilinnes.org) Oh well, time to "Get Up And Go" Ta. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sat Oct 13 00:44:39 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:44:39 Subject: Sinister: updated B&S-site. Message-ID: <172326551@spray.se> Actually mine. Er.. yes. http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling I´ve updated the about me, links and, er, that´s it. I dunno if this is list abuse, but if it is, I´m sorry, but please visit this and be a good sinisteree and write a story for me. Big kisses, Astrid _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet pÃ¥ http://www.spray.se Ny chatt pÃ¥ Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sat Oct 13 05:27:34 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:27:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: and me just feelin fine Message-ID: <4F1E56D79EC24BD4F9C95727127F59FF@chinacat81.wildmail.com> today was full of yelling and harsh words and a constant pounding coming from the second-story bathroom, where two small women were attempting to retile a shower. i took off early for work and went to the village popcorn wagon and probably looked rather silly sitting in the windy garden in my parka, huddled next to the bonfire and quietly enjoying a cherry icee. but it was lovely...no hammering sounds, just the crackling fire and the occasional train whistle. there were some high school boys talking silliness. they sounded like my old friends....well. señor frahm, my high school spanish teacher, used to make his students choose new names for themselves to use during class. i shouldn't say "used to..." i'm sure he still does it. i was 'olga' every semester, because it reminded me of big underwear. my brother went by a random set of numbers and letters, or sometimes 'joey gladstone.' elizabeth made a certain teacher refer to her by means of a specific series of clicking sounds made in the back of the throat. anyway...some of us used to secretly call señor frahm "El Huevo," and mr. gilbert was "The Pear." this was not very nice, but i must say it was always a treat when El Huevo and The Pear happened to be standing next to each other. it was almost a picnic, if only there's been a teacher shaped like a bottle of wine. or a can of red bull. something...it was silly. i got up and went back to the diner for more coffee and heard "america" on the radio. is that the name of the song? i don't know. for some reason, it reminded me of the itchy polyester uniforms we had to wear for the new berlin youth softball league. i played right field, because all of the kids who are god-awful at softball always...well, very few eight-year-old girls hit to right field. i would usually entertain myself by picking dandelions, occasionally glancing up with a dopey look on my face to make sure that the other team was still at bat. i think that song is supposed to make you think about things like itchy softball uniforms. wait, am i engaged to ken chu? kirsten, wondering what sort of food she resembles Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Oct 12 21:26:35 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:26:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Did I walk past a couple of sinisterines last night and not say hello? Message-ID: <3BC751FA.40FCB5EA@netscapeonline.co.uk> I was sort of aware of two persons walking past me and she asked the other 'is that Gordon?' and I marched on and it was because I was at the stage of looking pretty by a short sighted person at a distance and stinking of Baileys-fuelled puke. All over my Jermyn St. tailored Italian trousers. I'd been to see Heather Nova, and as the tension had built up to her rather late appearance on stage I'd drunk close to a bottle of the stuff and gee-whizz... it stinks. Sang a bee-gees cover as an encore. Staying Alive? Is that the bee-gees? All earlier. By the time I was walking up past the city chambers it was after having done three other things, kinda gestural and desperate. I laid meeself down to sleep on the steps of the art college, arm outstretched. 'Must be a heroin addict' 'Must be a student' I heard voices say untill I was offered an ambulance then I walked to the Royal Infirmary where I was told to call the Samaratins cos the doctor deals with 'broken bones and stuff'... no wonder girls cut themselves in order to get attention. More guts than I have. I simply throw mine up. Trying to explain, but I'm not incoherent enough. I also explained that I was very, very drunk. I wandered into the grounds of the Cathedral and to the gravelled sanctuary of the south portal, but figured this was a bit too heavy, so I was walking back to an hotel I'd reserved a room in, in Buchanan St., and that was as I was walking past. Fantanstic Dani Behr show on children's BBC1 this morning. The TV was all fuzzy but no double vision, so I saw fat cartoon Sumi Wrestlers 'big butts! big butts! the audience choruses, taking on exploding ballet dancers and another show that had replicas from various movie scenes... someone with puppy eyes and smart women around, all stealing the Koh-I-Noor and a grey thing like a Pink Panther but... whoo a Green Serpent that makes someone invisible. Earlier than any of that, I decided to visit the Saracen's Head, as recommended by Mr. Miller. I bought an L-size polo shirt for which someone had to go down a trapdoor behind the bar to fetch. Someone's writing a history of the establishment. Evidently, people send the polo-shirts to relatives in Canada. I'll probably wash and iron mine and send it to someone too. Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Sat Oct 13 19:37:51 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:37:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chicag one last time Message-ID: hey all. as of 1136 cdt i believe we are meeting at navy pier round 230ish. in front of the childrens museum main enterance. if you have any questions or cant find us call my cell # at 630.781.7620 have a toadie day ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Sat Oct 13 19:24:47 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (Lynsey Callaghan) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:24:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I want to be a part of it...Dundee, Dundee Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011013185108.00a493a0@mailms.ugrad.abdn.ac.uk> Hello sinister, Firstly and most importantly: ********************************************************************************************************* DUNDEE RENDEZVOUS NEWSFLASH!!! For anyone who's interested, we'll be meeting in Dundee train station at 2pm on Saturday 20th October. We haven't decided where we're going yet, but it will most likely involve a pub and a lovely dog (assuming that those two things can be successfully combined in Dundee, otherwise, it will involve a lovely dog and somewhere that's like a pub, but more canine-friendly). Rachel Sunnyset has already sent out an email, but in case anyone missed it, any interested parties can email either of us off list: sunnie_set at hotmail.com u07lec at abdn.ac.uk and let us know if you're coming, or have any ideas for where to go. Rachel knows things about trains too, if you're not overly familiar with the wonders of GNER. She's very organised, you know. ********************************************************************************************************** Sorry for the large letters and excessive use of symbols, but the excitement of a more northerly sinister meet-up warrants it all. The other day, a friend of mine had a party at his flat; it was his birthday. In between eating Mini Cheddars and drinking wine, I went outside for a cigarette. (He lives in a block of posh, new flats, so there's even a porch to stand under when smoking. How thoughtful). Standing outside, I was unavoidably just beside someone else's window, and the curtains were open. (Now, I know I shouldn't look in people's windows, my mother always told me off for it and slapped my wrists, but I still do it, and I know everyone else does too, so don't all look at me so disapprovingly! ) Through the window I could see a gramophone sitting on a big wooden table; the window was open slightly, and there was some beautiful (what sounded like) eastern European folk music. It was cool and breezy standing outside, and the stars were out, and I was happy. Often, I hate living in this city, it's so far away from everything and everyone else. But sometimes I have days where I spend more time looking at things, and listening to things, and it turns out it's not such a bad place to be after all. My new flat has an amazing view. From the windows in the front room (of which we have several), we look out over a graveyard, which stretches right down to the road, and carries on past the road on the other side. Behind the graveyard is a big hill, I think it's called Broad Hill, with a bench on top, where you can go and sit in the wind, with broken Buckfast bottles under your feet, and watch kids playing football, or watch people at the driving range, or watch cars driving along the road that passes beside the beach. Beyond the hill, you can see the sea, and in the morning you can look out and see the sunrise, and watch the great, hulking ships come in all day. My bedroom looks out onto an ugly warehouse that houses a sign design business, but I guess I just have to deal with that. Maybe I should relocate to the front room on a permanent basis. I'll consult my flatmate. (I don't think she'll approve). I spent the whole summer wishing I was back at university, and now that I am back, I'm wishing it was summer again. I seem to be spending a large proportion of my time either in #sinister, or avoiding the computer rooms at university so that I don't end up in #sinister. This is very bad. It may be a good way of passing the time during the day, but it sure as hell won't get me a degree. Unfortunately. Erm....that's it. But come to Dundee. Everyone's doing it. Lyns ------------ Lynsey Callaghan u07lec at abdn.ac.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Sat Oct 13 21:41:57 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:41:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: chicago Message-ID: hey everyone. elise and the crew are a bit behind schedule due to weather and so on so the best bet is to call my cell before going anywhere to meet. thanks ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mozkid at xxx.com Sat Oct 13 22:02:04 2001 From: mozkid at xxx.com (Ernie Sanchez) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:02:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the hour is gone, but the seconds linger... Message-ID: Hello you little charmers! This is my first post on Sinister, although I�ve been out of the nursery for a few months and had an overdose of Chu and Llew, which can be a fatal combination if you�re right out of the nursery at a young age. Took some time to recover. However, I survived and am now in posting mode. However I�m not very good with words. And if anyone remembers the pictures from the LA Sinister picnic in June, my looks don�t make me someone that can be fancied, so I doubt that the Sinister list crush mummy will be contacting me anytime soon. Perhaps I�ll have to go back to lurkerdom after this post. Here�s my introduction: male, 20, Los Angeles. Well, I actually live about 30-40 minutes north of L.A. I seem to share musical tastes with most people on the list here, and was extremely excited to hear my beloved Lift to Experience and Pernice Brothers get mentions in previous posts. My list of favorites is too long to mention (just ask Rachel Cornflake!) but I suppose I�d be open to make anybody a mix tape or cd. I just made her a mix, and she told me that it was brilliant. Well, I guess that last statement was to hopefully arouse some interest with the Wills and Rachels of this list to recruit me as an honorary member of their team to contribute to the mix competition. Will Salt, if you haven�t defected to the Rachels and become porridge yet, I�d like to join your team. I know your real last name is Salt, but perhaps I can be Will Pepper? Hopefully this name hasn�t been taken, as I subscribe to the digest version so I�m not always up to date on these things. Alright, the main purpose of this post: I wanted to give my Belle and Sebastian live show reviews! I know that the concerts were slightly over a month ago, and they are slowly fading away from my immediate memory, but I don�t recall having read any detailed reviews of any shows with the exception of the wonderful LA shows. They are still definitely something I won't forget in the near future (hence the title of this email)I went to both LA shows, but as other people have already shared their experiences (with words far better than what mine would have been), I figured that I�d talk about the San Francisco shows. Although I should mention that I�m the Ernie that Rachel Cornflake spoke about in her concerts post. After meeting up with her after the show (I was all by my lonesome during the actual concert) we got the chance to meet a few members of the band. I didn�t know what to ask them, but I managed to get Stevie and Stuart to sign my ticket and give me a hug. Strange, but by Stuart�s slight frame, I would have thought that he would have a better hugging technique. Yet I found Stevie to put more love into his hug, and his arm motion was smoother, so I would say that Stevie is my preferred hugger of the two. Didn�t know what else to say to Stuart, but I stuck around for a short while and was far too happy when I got home. After that, it was on to the San Francisco shows! The drive up there was nice, but I couldn�t leave until Saturday at noon, so I wasn�t able to attend the meetup. However the actual shows themselves more than made up for this! The Saturday show started with everyone on stage except for Mr. Murdoch. Sarah and Isobel started talking, little did I know (although I should�ve had the clue, as the original starts this way) that they were going to do �Leader of the Pack� which was made famous by the Shangri-Las! Stuart�s entrance was timed to coincide with the first motorcycle vroom in the song. He came out on a motorcycle, in his little white t-shirt and tight pants, but he had on a pair of black sunglasses, choker and hat! His attempt to look �tough� was a good one, and this was hilarious! They proceeded to play an amazing set, probably my favorite of the 4 shows I attended. Here�s the setlist I came up with from the recording I made: 1. leader of the pack (Shangri-Las) 2. le pastie de la bourgeoisie 3. there�s too much love 4. the magic of a kind word 5. i fought in a war 6. my wandering days are over 7. jonathan david 8. slow graffiti 9. the model 10. the boy with the thorn in his side (Smiths) 11. simple things 12. the boy with the arab strap 13. the fox in the snow 14. family tree 15. the state that i am in 16. dirty dream #2 (with Rachel Cornflake on spoken word vocals!) 17. the wrong girl (first couple lines sung in the style of Johnny Cash, but then Stevie stopped and the regular version was played) 18. woman�s realm 19. legal man 20. everyday people (Sly & the family stone) The whole performance was wonderful, definitely my favorite show of the 4. Of course the Smiths cover was great too! Stevie asked for requests, and I heard a few Smiths requests. I was going to yell something out, as I still have a dream of seeing them perform a Left Banke song, some of the covers that they did at the Nice N� Sleazy show earlier this year (Rhinestone Cowboy, Pretty Vacant) or �A Day in the Life� by the Beatles (Stu does the Lennon bit, Stevie the McCartney bit, Beans messes up on the keyboards in between the bits. This would be brilliant!). However, I stayed quiet but hearing the Smiths cover was as good as my requests. They had an audience member sing most of the words, as Stuart couldn�t remember them all, and the audience member blew us all away! He sang the song perfectly! I must say that I have much more respect for the rest of the band after seeing them onstage. Isobel�s backing vocals on �Le pastie� just gives me the chills every time I listen to a live recording, and Sarah�s voice is splendid. Everyone performed exactly as heard on the albums, and the sound was mixed perfectly, I was so impressed! Alright, this post is much too long now, and I haven�t even given as many comments as I�d like on this show. Should go now, but I haven�t even mentioned the Sunday show yet! As everyone has probably skipped my email, and congratulations to anyone if he/she has read this much, I promise I�ll get back soon with information on the Sunday show. Cheers and hugs, Ernie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Sun Oct 14 10:11:28 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:11:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: front cover Message-ID: Hi, sorry if someone has posted this before I get the latest digest, but this is the front cover of the upcoming belle and sebastian single.... http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B...01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg I think its horrid to be honest, oh well. love mr phil. p.s. hello Ernie :) you did it! http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Sun Oct 14 10:36:01 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Marianna Longmire) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:36:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Salt n' Pepa References: Message-ID: >Will Salt, if you > haven't defected to the Rachels and become porridge yet, I'd like to join > your team. I know your real last name is Salt, but perhaps I can be Will > Pepper? Oooh, can I then be Will Spinderella? We can then sing "Let's talk about B+S Baby" and "Whataband". ha ha etc. xx Marianna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sun Oct 14 13:30:22 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:30:22 Subject: Sinister: I'm living the dream... Message-ID: ...or something. Hello boys and girls. This week was the first week of the best days of my lives, apparently. University, that is. Some would say that I'm living the dream, and at the moment I think I might concur. Joe Vester said: >>SAM WALTON, Is that you in NME this week? Talking about Oasis and >>saying >>they're no good now? Indeed it is me. Page 23 of the NME this week features a quote from Sinister's very own Asm. However, the bastards have actually mis-quoted me, because what I said was actually referring to the Earl's Court gigs in 1995, not 97, because, as everybody knows, Britpop was rilly grate, but by 97 Oasis were already shit. I find it very comforting that I have already been mis-quoted by the NME, and I haven't even got a record deal yet. I spent last night deejaying with select members of the York Sinister Massive, which was amusing in the extreme. Taking the piss has never been so much fun, as we played The Asthmatic Gerbil's twee-est song, and then Pills by Prml Scrm (the one that just goes "Fuck! Sick! Fuck! Sick!" straight after. Other records included Judy Is Dick Slap, and bizarre Japanese novelty records selected by Mummy I've Grazed My Knee, which were, in the most parts, big piles of wank. A splended time was had by all. In a perfect twist of fate, the girl I currently fancy is an evangelical Christian. It's always the way with me... love Asm.x P.S. William McKenzie and the inimitable Brier Random are the lucky winners of a year's supply of respeck, for correctly answer that the follow on line to "Dude Shaved Me Bare Gave Me A Lollipop", is actually, "On my head there's nothing but stubble/Man I hate being in deep deep trouble". ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Sun Oct 14 15:34:10 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:34:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Seneca? No, that's my mutha! Message-ID: <20011014143410.18613.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> so! two posts in a little over a week. oh man, something's going on. what that could be, I really don't know. what am I talking about, anyway? I just woke up, I'm confused. help! mr. asm walton said "This week was the first week of the best days of my lives, apparently. University, that is. Some would say that I'm living the dream, and at the moment I think I might concur." awwwww! our little boy is all grown up and ready to take on the big scary world! *sniff* boy, does this make me feel old. I'm in my last year at college, which in american is the fourth year, which means I'll be 21 soon, and able to drink alcohol legally, which is sort of exciting, but I still feel old, and this sentence has gotten out of control, hasn't it? which reminds me of a joke I heard once: "'I don't want to die! I want to finish my book!' 'you're writing a book?' 'no, I'm reading one'". I think it was on "perfect strangers". thank goodness for bad 80s sitcoms. you know, sitcoms ain't what they used to be. they're all "realistic" and "serious" now... which is just a load of crap. speaking of which, in "paper boat", what exactly is the church of jesus saves? episcopalian, anglican, what? I'm putting my money on baptist... they're crazy, those baptists. you gotta love em. right, so I'm off to buy a newspaper and read about more FBI warnings about how we're all gonna die. cheers, eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sun Oct 14 16:37:08 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:37:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Loveliness of the middle london fun-ers Message-ID: <3BCBAF9B@MailAndNews.com> I took a second on Friday to think about the things I should be doing that night, a quick drive down and the boring train, I'm underneath the Euston's Rainway Arch again. The futures looking colourful, it's the colour of the red bull and the vodka and the corruption of a pair of legs a pair of legs will dance like an eel, til the muscles die down. The railway ticket states my return date but it doesn't mean that I will show. Too much vodka in my mind, a lovely guy offered a bed that night, so off we went The whole night was quite wonderful, It's the wonder of the indiekids conspiracy to make me dance and we all danced oh you danced I know I danced, I forgot for a while. On a sunday afternoon spent in Camden I give myself a headache boy. So I take revenge in stories and in dreaming of last night when we're on stage "have you seen the loveliless of the middle London fun-ers" When we shopped for food and looked around I left the town I had to go I walked to the station I wish I could have stayed just another night. I was unsure about going down to London right up until just before I left for the train, but I was very glad I went :-) You were all so great. Thank you DJs for playing some top tunes including that moldy peaches song 3 times, I definitely remembered the first time, I remembered Travis Cocker dancing to Do you remember the first time too, for the first time. And Chris Cabbage for giving me directions in finding the illusive pub, which enabled me to later help a lovely girl finding that illusive pub and looked clever. And then on Saturday afternoon I listened to a live performance of Ben Apps' band with the world famous 4-string guitar and it was rather good. Got home finally at Saturday evening to get ready for having dinner with my parents' friends who I don't actually know, and so was potentially very boring, I went there and it wasn't boring at all. It was just mind dumbingly dull and I learnt about these rich people's skiing holidays whilst thinking that I could have been drinking in London still. Ah well :-) Moldy Peaches and Red Bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Sun Oct 14 21:28:30 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Salt n' Pepa Message-ID: <20011014202830.CAD0636F9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From lolamonnet at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 00:23:28 2001 From: lolamonnet at xxx.com (Lola Monnet) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:23:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: hold your hand in shame and cry your life away Message-ID: hello. i have been very embarassing yesterday, i cried at a public place. i travelled to the cinema to watch a film called le fabuleux dest�n d'am�l�e poula�n, it was a story about a girl who grew up with herself and no one else, and she grew up with a lot of different ideas about the world and she likes to help the others around her to make their lives improve. while i was watching the film i was beginning to cry, very slowly. and then during the middle of the film a person told am�l�e that she is helping all these other people when is she going to sort out her own life, and she started crying, and i started crying too. growing up with no one else can make someone very afraid, afraid of speaking with anybody or getting close to people. even although that is what you dream about doing every night, to be connected with another person, someone you can trust. although sometimes you can forget about everything when you keep yourself busy it always comes back to you at night, when you sleep, when you watch television about people being close. am�l�e finds someone she can be close with in the end, maybe one day i will too, or maybe i will just carry on dreaming. i don't really know why i have just written all of this to you. lola. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 06:37:18 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: It's not as if they're paying Chu, it's not as if it's Ken... Message-ID: <20011015053718.51589.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Hey SINISTERINES!!! I know I just posted the other day, but there were a few more posts that I forgot to say something about, so I wanted to write about those and tell you about some other things...I'm imagining so many of you seeing my posts and just deleting them!!! But here I go anyway! JenOwl wrote: "So now when I get that feeling, of being untouchable, I keep thinking of that doll, and then I wait for that girl to show up and mess up all the ringlets and pull the legs off everything that's going right. Except she can't. No one can, because this time round I don't have to let anyone play if I don't want to because I don't get scared when people twist my arm up around my back any more. And it's swell." That post was sooooooo beautiful. Really got to me and made me think about how often we let people take advantage of us because we are afraid to "not play"... Most people don't do well with confrontation, but you end up with broken toys if you don't give firm boundaries, don't you! Feather Boa wrote: "i have spent the weekend making far from lifesize models of my favourite popstars in clay. so far i have Jarvis, Struan and Richey. i think that's enough. i'm *so* jealous of smartly dressed Rachel." Yay, FB!!! Making dolls of favorite popstars is awesome! I'd like to see a pic of those! I used to make paper dolls of my favorite bands and give them to the band. it was a good test of which popstars were nice and which ones weren't! And you are *so* sweet to mention me!!! Madeleine wrote about falling in love: "And it just feels like the pieces of the jigsaw have finally fit, or not even that, but that you've managed to do the sky and the edges of the jigsaw, and now you can finish the middle bit yourself." Oh that is so perfectly descriptive. I want to finish the middle part!!! If only I could get these edges put together! I also liked the part of that post where she said that she threw up on her love's shoes at a Suede gig and then he dumped her. What a guy! Archel Toast wrote: "a few months ago, matt wrote on the page for october 8 in his diary this reminder: 'die horribly'. i know he was only bored or something, but i've still been a bit nervy today and won't be quite relaxed until after midnight. there are such things as self-fulfilling prophecies after all..." Ohhh, I am so superstitious like that, too. It takes over all rational thinking! Kirsten Kenyon wrote about a run-in with a rude woman: "instead, she turned and looked and me and firmly slammed the door in my face, and everyone started laughing, and i laughed too and walked outside and she called me a name and said "i don't know who the hell you are"" i am amazed that anyone would do this to Kirsten! how *dare* she! Do you want me to come up there and kick her ass for ya, Kirst? Kirsten also wrote: "wait, am i engaged to ken chu?" Well, we're waiting for the answer!!!! Spike wrote of the mixtape battle: "I'm up for that. One question. Do we get bonus points for obscurity?" Ken, are you gonna answer this? Are you even going to be the judge? I'm prepared to ask Laura Llew to judge in "Llew" of you, if you think it would be biting off more than you "ken chu" (ohgod, I kill me! or somebody kill me!) Joe Vester wrote: "I am definitely going to be a Rachel, if they'll have me ( don't get me wrong, I like the Wills( and the Chrises(?)) as much as anyone else, I just think Rachel's a cooler name. And you don't get to make up your own surname with the Wills). I think the mix tape idea rawks." well, apparently nobody ever said that you couldn't make up your own surname with the wills, I know that Ernie is considering being Will Paprika for the battle. But I agree with you, Joe, Rachel is the better name! So, perhaps you can be Rachel Pancake or Rachel Mimosa. Anyone else? That's 3 honorary Rachels and GUESS WHAT!!! There is a SEVENTH Rachel on the list!!! She lives in Norway and is Rachel Jones, but we have decided to call her Rachel Orange Juice! Rach O.J. is in the nursery, but she is quite lovely, so when she is able to post, you're in for a treat! A shout out to Rach O.J. !Viva Rachels! Marianna wrote regarding Will Salt and Will Pepper: "Oooh, can I then be Will Spinderella? We can then sing "Let's talk about B+S Baby" and "Whataband". ha ha etc." OH MY GOD!!! I think I peed my pants when I read this, it's so silly! A shout out to Marianne!!! Katie Cheeriodle, HR wrote: "Last week, I mentioned to dear Rachel Fruitloop that I am undertaking the goal of having more fun, especially mid-week. I am finding it more and more necessary to break up the monotony of the workweek." Oh man, this can really improve your life, I'm telling you! I remember 2 weeks in July of 1998 my friends and I had the legendary "FAKE WEEKEND '98", we would come home from work, take a nap and then go out every night like it was the weekend! Whew! It was FUN! You should try it! Carle Groome wrote: "And if I say "The Rutles," there should be a rousing cheer and occasion cause enough for heads to nod in agreement to the aforementioned overweening enthusiasm spasm." ROUSING CHEER!!! THE RUTLES-ALL YOU NEED IS CASH is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. If you like the Beatles and your sense of humor is keener than a warped wooden door, you need to see this movie. Neil Innes is a brilliant songwriter, too. I think I prefer some of the Rutles songs to the Beatles songs!!! Caleb Ben wrote: "you all should go out and listen to donovan, i bet you'll prolly have a perfect moment also." When I used to live with my parents, when I would be listening to Belle & Sebastian, my dad would always come in and say "is this Donovan?" Caleb Ben also wrote: "tell me: does anyone else out there like steely dan? well i'm i'm sure SOMEBODY else my age in this wide world must. and i'm willing to bet that they are on this sinister list, reading this right now." I like Steely Dan! In fact, I wrote once in a fanzine "Ricky, don't lose MY number!" and I think I was the only one who got the joke! Eric the half a bee wrote: "which reminds me of a joke I heard once: "'I don't want to die! I want to finish my book!' 'you're writing a book?' 'no, I'm reading one'". I think it was on "perfect strangers". thank goodness for bad 80s sitcoms." Ok, Eric, you're quoting Perfect Strangers has got you so much closer to having me vote a list crush on you!!! Thanks for that one! Congrats to Sam Walton for being quoted (or misquoted as it were!) in the NME!! I agree with you about Oasis being grate in 1995, but becoming crap by 1997! I was lucky enough to see Oasis at a very small venue (The Whisky a go-go)here in L.A. in September of 1994 and they ROCKED!! (Oasis loved the paper dolls I made of them, except for Liam who didn't care, so there you go!) Joseph S. wrote: "I don't know if B&S label Cohen as an influence though much of their stuff is reminiscent of his text-heavy 60s/70s work (67's Songs of Leonard Cohen and 71's Songs of Love and Hate in particular)." I think Songs of Love and Hate is one of the best albums!! On my mix of Unrequited Love Songs I put "Avalanche" by Leonard Cohen on it. It's such a stunning song. What a voice he has! A shout out to Colin boy, you doll! (Pay no attention to where I'm about to say I was yesterday!) I heard The Strokes at Ryan's house yesterday (Hi Ry-ry!) and I think they're better than I expected. Not bad, but definitely nothing serious. I could see enjoying them like I enjoy Bis. I don't know if that makes any sense to you all, but when do I ever?! Is anyone up for a Southern California picnic anytime soon? A lot of us missed the last one, so it would be fun to do another. I know that Katie Cheeriodle, Rachel Cornflake, Ernie and Brier are interested. If anyone else is, please let me know and we'll try to arrange for something! That's all I got kids! Lots of love to you all, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Mon Oct 15 06:58:12 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: My ph.D-age is over Message-ID: <200110150558.HAA00955@mailserver.unimi.it> Hello all glad to be back on the list after a coupend of days in the bed for the usual season's cold, and a coupel of week spent just writing asort of pretty boring thesis... I've missed all the message pretty much but will need sometime to read 'em all, but it's just fun! message will be divided in part 1 my ph-d age is over 2 looking for a job now 3 getting to london? 1 on friday I gave my fibnal seminar and the end of the month which is know quite close my grant will be definitely over and I'll be finally back in the unenploed crew again...mhmhmhm-.. sound quite scary since I would need a job otherwise I will probably (100%) have to join tne army. Not nice any time, but I guess this is not the proper time at all to do that. 2 anyway chance are to move to paris for 1 year, which will be a big change in everyday's life schemes, nothinh drataical... I'll know soon as I'm moving up to paris this week, actually maybe tomorrow! 3 if the paris seek will be unsucessful, but I think anyway I'll probbaly move to london the week after.. If any sinister in paris or london would like to meet for a luch pr dinner or anything, or why not a pic-nic, you know, we pour italian fans miss the pic-nic very much, will be really Glad of it!! (I'll have access to the e-mail, at least the week in paris) take care your stefano :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi Università degli Studi di Milano Via Celoria 26 20133 Milano Italia/Italy Stefano.santabarbara at unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 15 08:28:47 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:28:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Glissards Progressifs du Reynard-des-Pins Message-ID: <001001c1554b$293c2440$355c243e@itjfvkli> Hello, I am the ghost of Troubled Joe, Speaking of which, whilst wandering around a Cure-like forest of listening posts the day before yesterday I happened upon the new LP by Tori Amos. It features a cover version of Lloyd Cole's classic "Rattlesnakes" song, from the LP of the same name. I had a listen to it, but I was a bit underwhelmed really. Tori Amos has slowed it down and eradicated that nice jingle-jangle that gave the original its charm. What's more, it sounds like an American (or Canadian or whatever she is) pretending to be a Debyshire boy pretending to be American (or wanting to be American or whatever it was). But... it's a good job Lloyd did go American, I can't imagine Tori Amos covering the song if it had been full of references to Matlock Bath and Buxton. Of course the really great news is that Lloyd will probably be able to record a new album with the proceeds. Or at the very least it will keep him in bubbly gum for a couple of years. It's like when Guns'n'Roses recorded "The Spaghetti Incident" and suddenly old punks from Huddersfield all had season tickets to the municipal baths and really big Scalextric layouts. Laura Llew, I really did unsubscribe in disgust, you know. I travelled to a mystical timezone, but I missed my Ken and I soon came home. As for me still posting, that's complete nonsense. I stopped that ages ago. I trust you will all be Reporting Back on the London-Indie-USA shenanigans. I hear they raised 1800 pounds! Not bad for such a bunch of tight-arsed bastards. I'm joking of course. Did Elenita99 go, and if so, what was her slogan for the evening? Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 11:31:24 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:31:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it is by will alone that I set my mind in motion... In-Reply-To: <20011015053718.51589.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011015103124.35605.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> not relating to will. or rachel. or any of the other ones. I think I could relate to will. even though I won't. but you're all welcome to read. here. WELCOME. less and less. okay. yes. someone mentioned steely dan. someone noticed a few of theirs in with other ones I have. and remarked. so. yes. other people like steely dan. I was surprised [I thought 'shocked' at first, but no longer.] to discover two [and then two.] of my...contemporaries [contemporary in only some aspects. I guess.] had never heard of jack kerouac. never. who hasn't heard of jack kerouac? gosh. I've said this a few times recently. everyone's at least HEARD of him. well. no. they haven't. obviously. one had heard of 'naked lunch'. but not william burroughs. I think hearing is the first step. I doubt they'll have heard of steely dan. in. any way. yeah. oh. FRUITLOOP - the one that isn't to lose that number is actually 'rikki'. not 'ricky'. easy mistake to make. I often mis-spell 'ricki lake'. often. really. she's younger than you think, you know. rikki fulton isn't dead. right? I like 'I'm your man'. well. I watched 'dune' yesterday. some people really don't like that film. I do. I think it's a lot of fun. good fun. and the theme is nice. tune. well. the theme, yeah. I have a television now. but no signal receiving device. so. I watch films. I have a video too. I watched 'dead man' last night. that was fun. people had been talking about william blake recently. and reading too. I bet. yeah: I like that film. 'specially the bit with iggy pop and billy bob thornton and the other guy. and crispin glover on the train. is fun. you know. he's not older than michael j. fox. oh. and neil young's twangy guitars. lovely. he's older than michael j. fox. of course. he co-directed[?] 'human highway' with dean stockwell. I like him. despite. some. he's done the david lynch ones. and wim wenders. and. 'anchors aweigh'. yeah: I like him. some people might think I have a lot of or too much fun. well. I told kirsten marie kenyon that we'll watch 'the straight story'. when she visits. I don't doubt that would be fun. and I decided that the best place to sit. to watch. is on st. vincent street. sometimes. although there are other good ones too. I lost it? SHOULD A BODY MEET A BODY COMING THROUGH THE RYE Ian Nicolson is right: I don't remind him of holden caulfield. and I don't remind me of him either. burns? I don't think I remind either of us of edwyn collins. even though that was All That Ever Mattered. STOP STARTIN' AND START DOUBLE-STOPPIN' did anyone make a convincing distinction between violins and fiddles? there's none! none distinction! right? if yer a violinist. ye have a violin. if yer a fiddler. well. that could be distinct enough. but not so punchy. viola...violist. I believe. the one thing I can always say about her is 'she looked very alive'. and could make me feel otherwise. ___________________________________________________ hey: yes. THE NATIONAL POP LEAGUE. on the friday. the ninth of november. it sounds really good. I won't dance. but I might want to. oh: yes. jonathan richman at king tut's wah-wah hut. on thursday. I hope I can fit it in. I need to manage my time better. or. just do some work now and again. that's right: now and again. that doesn't not make sense. oh my. they're all around me! one asks 'wasn't there a jack kerouac street somewhere?' I reply 'very probably: he's a very well-known person'. another is laughing at another because he's never heard of steve buscemi. I laugh at the laughing and one is offended and gives me: 'pop culture!'. I laugh more. and more. and return to him: 'beat generation?'. he looks hurt. and confused. not too hurt. and then he laughs when I inquire: 'what goes on?'. ... ooh, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 11:31:07 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:31:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it is by will alone that I set my mind in motion... In-Reply-To: <20011015053718.51589.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011015103107.69209.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> not relating to will. or rachel. or any of the other ones. I think I could relate to will. even though I won't. but you're all welcome to read. here. WELCOME. less and less. okay. yes. someone mentioned steely dan. someone noticed a few of theirs in with other ones I have. and remarked. so. yes. other people like steely dan. I was surprised [I thought 'shocked' at first, but no longer.] to discover two [and then two.] of my...contemporaries [contemporary in only some aspects. I guess.] had never heard of jack kerouac. never. who hasn't heard of jack kerouac? gosh. I've said this a few times recently. everyone's at least HEARD of him. well. no. they haven't. obviously. one had heard of 'naked lunch'. but not william burroughs. I think hearing is the first step. I doubt they'll have heard of steely dan. in. any way. yeah. oh. FRUITLOOP - the one that isn't to lose that number is actually 'rikki'. not 'ricky'. easy mistake to make. I often mis-spell 'ricki lake'. often. really. she's younger than you think, you know. rikki fulton isn't dead. right? I like 'I'm your man'. well. I watched 'dune' yesterday. some people really don't like that film. I do. I think it's a lot of fun. good fun. and the theme is nice. tune. well. the theme, yeah. I have a television now. but no signal receiving device. so. I watch films. I have a video too. I watched 'dead man' last night. that was fun. people had been talking about william blake recently. and reading too. I bet. yeah: I like that film. 'specially the bit with iggy pop and billy bob thornton and the other guy. and crispin glover on the train. is fun. you know. he's not older than michael j. fox. oh. and neil young's twangy guitars. lovely. he's older than michael j. fox. of course. he co-directed[?] 'human highway' with dean stockwell. I like him. despite. some. he's done the david lynch ones. and wim wenders. and. 'anchors aweigh'. yeah: I like him. some people might think I have a lot of or too much fun. well. I told kirsten marie kenyon that we'll watch 'the straight story'. when she visits. I don't doubt that would be fun. and I decided that the best place to sit. to watch. is on st. vincent street. sometimes. although there are other good ones too. I lost it? SHOULD A BODY MEET A BODY COMING THROUGH THE RYE Ian Nicolson is right: I don't remind him of holden caulfield. and I don't remind me of him either. burns? I don't think I remind either of us of edwyn collins. even though that was All That Ever Mattered. STOP STARTIN' AND START DOUBLE-STOPPIN' did anyone make a convincing distinction between violins and fiddles? there's none! none distinction! right? if yer a violinist. ye have a violin. if yer a fiddler. well. that could be distinct enough. but not so punchy. viola...violist. I believe. the one thing I can always say about her is 'she looked very alive'. and could make me feel otherwise. ___________________________________________________ hey: yes. THE NATIONAL POP LEAGUE. on the friday. the ninth of november. it sounds really good. I won't dance. but I might want to. oh: yes. jonathan richman at king tut's wah-wah hut. on thursday. I hope I can fit it in. I need to manage my time better. or. just do some work now and again. that's right: now and again. that doesn't not make sense. oh my. they're all around me! one asks 'wasn't there a jack kerouac street somewhere?' I reply 'very probably: he's a very well-known person'. another is laughing at another because he's never heard of steve buscemi. I laugh at the laughing and one is offended and gives me: 'pop culture!'. I laugh more. and more. and return to him: 'beat generation?'. he looks hurt. and confused. not too hurt. and then he laughs when I inquire: 'what goes on?'. ... ooh, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 15 13:43:01 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:43:01 BST Subject: Sinister: tears on my pillow* Message-ID: <44C01FE79E2@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey sinistereenies, its been so long, so many things have happened, you won't remember me, but i remember you, twas not so long ago you broke my heart in two... but don't worry i'm not about to say anything topical. so since we last spoke many months ago i've found the lever on the chairs in the computer room that makes them go up and down, so you can fool people that a pooter is free because they can't see you around the other side of the monitor because you are too low down. oh the hillarity. i've also embarked upon a mission to try every cheese and funny looking sausage at the deli counter in safeways. i'm currently eating a stripy cheese made of five different kinds of cheese stuck together. its a riot of flavour in every mouthful. someone mentioned the strokes. only joking, i wouldn't really go there. except to say that we did some flyers for our last highly successful "most diverse indie night in manchester" (the next one being tomorrow, tues at the phoenix £3 if anyone's interested) featuring the ramones and one of our friends insisted on confusing them with the strokes repeatedly. now i don't know about you, but i can't see that the two look terribly alike..? someone did however say "ballboy" the other day, and suggested that only scottish people would like them. wrong! i like them and i'm not the slightest bit scottish, well a tiny bit, distantly somewhere in my family history, but not so you'd notice. in my absense it seems that no-one has been continuing the irn-bru vs redbull battle. hmm... looks like we lost then, but http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/worldofirnbru is still up there if anyone has anything to say on the matter. oh, i know its a long time ago now, but some people wrote about being on the beach in scarborough after the b+s gig there in june. i was there too!! yey, can i admit though, that i wasn't really sure what i thought about the members of the band that i met. perhaps it was a post gig thing, or perhaps it was just because i fell in the sea and got wet (not a good thing to at 1am when you're wearing denim) but... oh nevermind, i'm sounding silly now. however, i did find out the best thing about having a posh phone that you can record stuff on in a sort of dictaphone stylee. i now have loads of 30 second snippets of live b+s that i can carry in my pocket. yum. must go, i won't leave it so long next time, love and megabeans, fiona. *guess who watched a retrospective of kylie videos on itv2 last night. http://clubindigo.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Mon Oct 15 14:45:05 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:45:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re:porting bach Message-ID: The Geezer: > > I trust you will all be Reporting Back on the > London-Indie-USA shenanigans. > I hear they raised 1800 pounds! Not bad for such a bunch of > tight-arsed > bastards. Indeed Mr Miller, £1752 was made on the evening, which will be winging it's way to the red cross v soon, and the sinister massive was terribly well represented. Those spotted included (v deep breath) dmatt, capt marvo, rich, the kaiser, ms vicky and her lovely new haircut, lucy96, cabbage, ben apps, photojenni, dansonhatcher, lixi, starbar, jimpurpletrousers, gingerfox, elena99 (no catchphrase noted), and Mr Kenneth P Chu. Treacle sent her apologies due to being afflicted by coldthrax. The usual apols to anyone i've missed, but i did start drinking at three... rat-tailled jim was there also and lixi DREW ON HIM!! also to anyone else that was there, did the L we drew on you magically seep into your skin by saturday morning, cos mine did... There was much dancing and possibly even more flirting (don't mention the mell st curse) and what can only be described as an "interesting" selection of music. I've certainly never heard songs from bugsy malone, anthrax, the smiths, daft punk, wedding present, godawful pub rock and b&s all in one nite before... So a big thank you to everyone who came along, and watch out for our follow-up extravaganza in about six months time, we're aiming to make this a permanent fixture in the calendar :) xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 15:00:35 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:00:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the 'mix tape battle' saga continues Message-ID: hi everyone! well it seems there are absolutely *no* christophers on sinister but me. i thought i'd have amassed an army of them by now. we would have had sweets as our surnames (me as chris pez obviously) but no-one wants to play on my swings as it were. so it seems the only thing i can do is resign as head of the christophers and defect to another team. but which one? i have been surrounded by rachels all my life (sister, ex-girlf, knew a couple of them at school, etc...) and i don't know any wills, also the rachels team has been amassing honourary rachels like nobody's business so i think i must fight for equality and pledge my aliegance to the flag of will. i'm thinking maybe Pez Tarragon (HW) or Pez Mint (HW) if i'm accepted and survive the rigorous training schedule that is. but my mix tape abilities are superb and i'd be an ideal candidate to support the wills to the top! So �rachels! up for a fight then? right, outside now! hee hee Pez* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 15 15:45:26 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:45:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sweet, sweet sounds Message-ID: <3BCAF686.206DA5FA@camb.linst.ac.uk> I am afraid this post is not B&S related because my attention has been turned elsewhere. The Tindersticks at the Albert Hall on friday with a FULL ochestra, consisting of 15 violins, 3 violas, 4 cellos, sax, trumpet, a lovely warm sounding hammond and the mighty Stuart Staples. The night was everso slightly ruined by my wonderfully happy friend with her beautiful, beautiful husband to be, but everything else was perfect. If you have not heard of them you should most definitely take some time out to enjoy them. They have the most amazing range of sound from manic, melodromatic, sweeping violin to tiny scratchy quiet moments and it's all brought together with the deeply sexy sound of Stuart (who i can only describe as sounding like vic reeves doing his club style-ee, but don't let that put you off). The sound quailty was fantastic, it resinated all around the hall and it felt like i was dipping into a warm jacuzi. For those few hours the only thing that mattered was whether they would play "she's gone" and they did. I came away feeling as if i had had a full body massage. I even managed to record half of it and bar the occasional sound of me going "wwoooaaa" at the beginning of each song, it is great. On a small B&S note, can we have a winter meet up in london, we could sip hot chocolate and exchange cough candy twists? Any ideas? keep on smiling, hannahxxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Oct 15 17:14:24 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:14:24 Subject: Sinister: the magnificent seven. Message-ID: <173211595@spray.se> hello, hello. the magnificent seven is on tv tonight. I´m thinking of seeing it, not because interesting at all, but just because it´s mentioned in the inlay in tigermilk. I am such a NERD, ah! It´s so weird. I realised today, how much B&S really do MEAN to me, they´re like this drug that poisons you (but in a good way, if you get what I mean), and you just never can get ENOUGH of them. Well, at least I can´t. I even got this picture of Struan on the wall, right beside my pillow and I kiss it goodnight every night and not because I would actually like to kiss this 17 year older little man (wait, maybe I would, Ah, Well I´ve changed my mind, I DO want to kiss him because he is so truly beautiful) but because It´s just like he is so REAL (no, I´m not hallucinating). Belle and Sebastian are real, they are real persons which is so much better than all these stars that are so thin and wear too much make-up and only sings about stupid things. But Belle and Sebastian feels like persons that you would meet in the local record shops or sit beside on a bus on your way home, or maybe just have as a friend. They are so lovely and I don´t think I´ll ever stop loving them. I´ve been e-mailing off-list with Daniel, and the swedish sinister meet-up will probably be a winterpicninc! In the snow! No foxes, though, but probably some sinisterines! Oh, that would be so lovely, drinking hto chocolate, eating sandwiched and play in the snow. Yes, we actually said that was what we were going to do, and I think it sounds absolutely wonderful! I´m listening ot disco renaissance right now. I love it, it´s such a grate song. You´ll go disco and I´ll go my way... mmmm... I love to sing. I don´t do it very well, but still I do it all the time. I always sing along to things, so, a bit of advice: Don´t ever, and I mean EVER ride in a car with me if you aren´t really tolerant with singing along and me never staying on one radiostation for more than one song, or me switching cd:s/tapes all the tape. I am horrible in cars. I´ve been thinking of when i have kids, which I hope I will some day. I was imagining me driving my kids to school, and I would sit there, listening to B&S, and my kids would go "MUM, please, not ben and sebastian again!" "Belle and Sebastian, they´re called Belle and Sebastian. And what´s wrong with them? They´re grate" "NO; they´re horrible, turn it off, it´s rubbish. I HATE Belle and Sebastian!!!!!" "You know you don´t mean that!" "Yes I do, they´re just stupid cardigan clad people who made music for other outcasts and geeks and people who wear cardigans!" "It´s my car, I´ll decide what we are going to listen to!" *Sings along to Le pastie de la bourgeoise, and can´t do it very well* *Kid sulks* I mean, think about it. What kind of world would it be if your kids would think "being a rebel" or just making your parents angry, would be listening to S Club 7 or Steps or something like that. Ahhh! I get all panicked thinking of it. I know there will be one day when I come to realise that my kids think of me as a nerd who listens to nerdy popmusic. Ok, I´m 15, I´m not really planning to start getting kids soon or anything. But I just get really upset (or amused) when thinking of stuff like that. It´s weird though, you have to admit that! Oh yes, by the way I... I forgot what I really wanted to say with all this. Did I want to say something? Hmm. I had to take some leaves home with me today. There´s just LEAVES everywhere you go, it´s like big oceans of leaves, and they are all beautiful, yelloworangered in different shades and with different looks. I brought five home I think. And I know that when I do my christmascleaning, I wil find them, dried up, under lots of papers and some cds, they will by then have turned brown and they will be mashed, and I´ll swear and think "Why did I pick up some leaves and decide to take them home?!" What the hell am I doing, really? This post really is bad, and I am aware of it. Lots of love and leaves to you all, Astrid xxx P.S Anyone ever thought of naming their kids after something B&S, or just with like a favourite caracter in a book or a writer or a person in a movie or something. Or is it just me being sick? Take care. _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet pÃ¥ http://www.spray.se Ny chatt pÃ¥ Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 16:48:57 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The tears are welling in my eyes again... Message-ID: <20011015154857.C443436F0@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 18:02:04 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: bad dream #2 Message-ID: <20011015170204.32201.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> i keep having bad dreams about the world dying and my family dying and so on.... they always end with me sobbing and hugging my dead or dying brother or sister.....it's all so horrible. this world is so completely out of control. honestly everyone should just go out and get stoned. something relaxing......maybe valium...or exstacy even......i don't know, could we put it in the water supply?.......i think i'm developing an ulcer. i work in a mailroom at an accounting firm, and all we've talking about is how to handle dangerous or suspicious materials......this morning we got a letter from lagos (in africa) marked "suspect material" i didn't know what to make of it....it was completely flat and felt empty......but i said (to quote my native ancestors) "today is a good day to die" and i snipped it open....and all it was was a money-making scam thing from nigeria. but it made me think very seriously for a moment about my imminent death......and now i'm really freaked out and shaking and i feel like i'm going to throw up. very panicky. i'm filled with a very unsafe feeling. and i know that people all around the world have felt this and are feeling this....all those poor people in afghanistan......nobody should feel this......nobody should die......god, i'm crying now.....i can't write anymore now, sorry.......i love you all out there, please be friendly to someone today.....help someone somehow..............caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 18:19:18 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: rain and picnics and love and hair goo Message-ID: <20011015171918.99113.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Hullo everyone, Looks like no one's posted yet about last weekend's Chicago shenanigans, at least I've not seen a post yet. So looks like I get to go first, and include some of my own goings-on too! So I *finally* got to meet my list crush, Sweet Sean from Maryland last Wednesday night. He is the mostest wonderfulest boy on the face of this earth, and a sharp dresser & good kisser to boot. It was the best five days of my entire life, almost magical. Jim G got into Madison on Friday, and we all saw Ghost World, which we all recommend. Go see it, run don't walk!! Jim is totally awesome! He shared his hair goo with me, even though I already have five or six different kinds. I liked his goo quite a bit. Jim also played good music in the car. Now I understand what all the fuss is about the Moldy Peaches! And as if all that wasn't enough, he introduced Sean and I to Red Bull & vodka. Nectar of the gods, indeed! Then on Saturday, the rain, rain, rain, came down, down, down. In the car we listened to a CD Rachel made me; she was there in spirit, and said spirit probably saved us from drowning when we drove through seven foot deep "puddles". Me and Sean and Jim G made it to Stine's house anyway, and met up with Adam and Nikki; we then snuck into the Art Institute and got dinner at Uno's. Gooood times. Oh, and we got to ride the subway. ******* I'll stop now, cos I'm getting distracted by missing Sean terribly. He just drove back to Maryland this morning, and if I close my eyes, I can still feel his soft cashmere sweater (oooh, posh!) Bye everybody!! love and blue skies, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Mon Oct 15 21:00:35 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:00:35 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Well,I can see that river whenever I think about them Message-ID: <001601c155b4$0e7e0a60$cbfacdd4@q2x8k0> Today I woke up when I usually go to bed. At about half seven. I don't think I've been up before twelve in the last two months, and I had missed the way the morning feels. I spent an hour trying to get back to sleep and then I got up and spent a few hours jumping around the house -which is a total mess- while my bitchy brother was asleep. Waking up early might suck in general, but this time it was great fun. The whole morning stretching in front of me, so many things I could do. I was excited. (And sleepy.) Looking for inspiration, I read a few posts while eating breakfast. And I noticed Lloyd Cole was mentioned once again. So I went back in my room and tried to guess which one of the various boxes, in which most of my stuff still lies -I moved three weeks ago, but well-, were my Lloyd Cole cds. Then I went back and played Rattlesnakes to myself while finishing my breakfast. Which -the song- inspired me to make half a tape. And to writing five emails. I think I mentioned Lloyd Cole in all of them. That, along with the jumping around, was all I did all the morning and noon. But I enjoyed it a lot. Here comes the part about the weather: it has, eventually, got chilly. In a way that makes you sure it won't be warm again, at least not after the sun sets. And it was cloudy. And grey. Which is quite rare around here. I know cloudy and grey can be depressing, but when it's the first time in six months, it's exciting. And it reminded me of a train journey last August from Paris to Munster (that's somewhere in north-western Germany), which made it all more exciting. It also made me wish I was still looking at the world the way I was during that train journey. When everything was clear and colourful, and I felt strong and ready for whatever was to come. It was a wonderful feeling and it made me be really happy for a whole week. Happy as in waking up smiling every morning and taking pleasure in everything I did. That was two months ago, and this morning, at half eight, I realised that by now I had lost this feeling completely. And I wished really hard it would come back. I think my wish had some effect. Although not the one I wished for -at least not yet. Because that had been one of the craziest days of my life. The weird thing about it is I spend most of it in front of the computer. And next to the phone. And also listening to Lloyd Cole; all day; which got me feeling heartbroken. But it's kind of an illusion. Because I'm not heartbroken. I feel lost. And weird, and tense. And a bit sad. [All my friends in this town are pissed off with me. So I have no one to talk to tonight. Some of them will change their mind soon and love me again. Some won't, I guess. (There were two of them)] But not heartbroken. I think there's something good to it. I think it's one of this days that are weird cause they're the start of something different. Love, and all the things that make you feel and care, Dimitra +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 22:26:46 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:26:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beano on the Radio Message-ID: that's funny, cause i thought he was talking about Benno Radio and had just punned a bit. especially speaking of internet stations...does anyone else listen to Benno? some of you must agree he's tops... >If anyone finds themselves sitting next to a computer with speakers >tomorrow >(Friday 12th), you could do worse than listen to Hi-Karate radio on.. >www.radiomagnetic.com/Listen/index.htm >between 4 and 6 PM. There you will find Beans Geddes doing a DJ set. It'll >be archived, but it'll be more exciting live. >Cheers, > >Neil > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Mon Oct 15 22:57:11 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:57:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: They told EE Cummings to use capital letters. Would he? no! Little n. Little o. Message-ID: A great writer is the friend and benefactor of his readers. - Macaulay Spinisterines! Velocity Girl and Aunt Sadie - I hope that you'll forgive me for writing in such a public forum where usually only posts to Sinisterines as a whole are welcomed. As I have told you in earlier correspondence, I was emulating the poet Milton by spending my youth in seclusion, medication, and study in order to perfect my craft of writing as he did; the world's cataclysmic intemperance has thrust me into the world in the most cavalier manner; my system in is still in a state of flux. It is my only hope that my public post will somehow strike a chord with someone who is desperately in need of my wisdom which might prove to be, naturally, everyone. As I was wearing the soles of my New Balances down to a mere silver of crepe rubber on the old flagstone banquettes of the streets of a small western town in western Carolina my fevered attempt to wrest a living from an unthinking and uncaring society, I was hailed by a cherished old acquaintance (deviate). A few minutes of conversation in which I established most easily my moral superiority over this degenerate, I found myself pondering once more the crises of our times. My mentality, uncontrollable and wanton as always, whispered to me a scheme so magnificent and daring that I shrank from the very thought I was hearing. "Stop!" I cried imploringly to my godlike mind. "This is madness." But still I listened to the counsel of my brain. It was offering me the opportunity to save the world from it's degeneracy. However, it involves Cupid. La Cupid still keeps his own counsel, thereby proving himself even wiser than we had originally thought upon kidnapping him eight months ago - especially since he discovered the oven in the dungeon and is baking up some of the most excellent chocolate macaroon cookies you've ever sunk your teeth into (unless you're Aunt Sadie and then it's lost your teeth in). I hate to lose him (the cookies so soft and chewy) but I suppose if it's for the world it can be managed. There will be more details forthcoming. I find, dear Spinisterines, that I have grown accustomed to the hectic pace of a single bookshop girl and blooming into the picture perfect old maid (though, at the moment, sans cats), an adjustment which I had no doubt I could make. Of course, it is true that in my brief career at the bookshop, I have succeeded in initiating several work-saving methods. Those of you who are fellow bookshop girls and find yourselves reading this incisive journal during a coffee break or such might take note of one or two of my innovations. I direct these observations to officers and tycoons, also. I have taken to arriving at the office one hour later than I am expected. Therefore, I am far more rested and refreshed when I do arrive, and I avoid that bleak first hour of the working day during which my still sluggish senses and body make every chore a penance. I find that in arriving later, the work which I do perform is of a much higher quality. My innovation in connection with the Romance section of the store must remain a secret for the moment, for it is rather revolutionary, and I shall have to see how it works out. In theory the innovation is magnificent. However, I will say that the brittle and yellowing papers in the Harlequins constitute a fire hazard. A more special aspect that may not apply in all sections is that Romance novels seem to attract ladies who obviously should be spending their time on other things instead of dreaming of that which will never happen. Or that which I hope will never happen to them for their sakes. It's a bit like porn - who wants to be out there thinking, "Where's my really ugly guy from New Jersey with a hairy back and a bizarrely large penis?" I might have to also implement this plan (you would like it - it involves fire) with the wedding planners as well. A young lady just came into the store to purchase one and she was beaming disgustingly. Oh they say that women glow when they're in love or about to have children but they would also glow if exposed to large amounts of radiation and about to birth three headed phreaks as well so I'm not one to mark this as a positive thing. Other than developing plans to save the world and the bookshop, I've been involved with autumn roadtrips. I just finished giving Hubris (my stalwart steed) his yearly bath. He's quite picky about them and always complains that he'll just become dirty again so I usually only make him let me wash him every so often. He's a wise automobile. However, I find that his gratitude to me is superiorly lacking. I love him tenderly and he finds the need to decide that he would much rather spend more time in upper state New York than I originally had planned. (He obviously doesn't realize that as southerners that we're in enemy territory). After six miles of walking, eight hours of waiting in a mechanic's shop, and several minutes trying to explain to the mechanic that when I said "I would like a water pump for my car" that "That sounds like a fair exchange" wasn't the response for which I was hoping - we finally emerged out of autohell and escaped home. Too bad I can't do it again sooner. After two years in Sinister, I'm meeting my first person from this fair village when they come to stay with me for a couple of weeks. This is what I get for e-mailing someone to tell them they write wonderful posts. They seem to be exquisitely lovely but then again when you're thousands of miles away - even I seem to be charming. Sucker. I shan't tell you their name just in case they annoy me and I have to kill them. After the cupid incident, the police are suspicious of me. There isn't much to do around here and so my plans for entertainment are narrow. Naturally, I shall take him to the local post office so he can see the man with the frosted mullet. That's always a highpoint of visiting here. Of course, I also plan a poetry recital during that time period to practice for Halloween when I shall be Isadora Quagmire (http://www.lemonysnicket.com/tc_isadora.html and yes, I plan to do that exact expression for the entire day) and speak only in couplets. On that dark night of poetry, I'm hoping that the only other member of my audience will be some desperately lonely old male librarian who saw a light in the window of the lecture hall and hopefully came in to escape the cold and the horrors of his personal hell (realizing years before that bookshops were superior but being too proud to admit to it so he kept being transferred from branch to brooklyn branch and becoming so desperate at times that he even considered moving to Iowa). There in the hall, his stooped figured sitting alone before the podium, sinister visitor trying to quietly sneak out the door, my squeaky voice echoing among the empty chairs and hammering boredom, confusion, and sexual reference deeper and deeper in the the poor wretchs' skulls until they're confounded to the point of hysteria. It will be delightful and I'm sorry that you can't make it. Vel, thank you very kindly for you poem about autumn. In exchange, here lies my favorite e.e. cummings poem in honor of his birthday which according to Raucous Rich was yesterday. It seems to be the week, nay I say month, of many a great one's birthday - Bill Harris & Starfire Davey whose birthdays are this week and to Brier, Jeremy, Tom Y, and someone else obvious who I'm forgetting whose birthdays are later this month. Somewhere I have never traveled gladly beyond any experience, your eyes have their silence: in your most frail gesture are things which enclose me, or which I cannot touch because they are too near your slightest look easily will enclose me though I have closed myself as fingers, you open always petal by petal myself as Spring opens (touching skillfully, mysteriously) her first rose or if your wish be to close me, I and my life will shut very beautifully, suddenly, as when the heart of this flower imagines the snow carefully everywhere descending; nothing which we are to perceive in this world equals the power of your intense fragility: whose texture compels me with the color of its' countries, rendering death and forever with each breathing (I do not know what it is about you that closes and opens; only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands. "Nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands" is a line akin to Parker's "lips that taste of tears, they say, are the best for kissing" (not that I do any) in that I often find myself curled up with it late in the night. I have found that if you don't have enough time to read all of the sinister posts that just getting to Rachel the Fruitloops will give you all the highlights - a bit like just glancing at the top of post office mullet boy's head. Your working girl, Laura Llew PS - As you can tell, I'm still enamored with John Kennedy Toole but there's no reason to fret since I seriously doubt even if he was resurrected anytime soon that he would now be heterosexual. PPS - I've also now fallen in love with Carson McCullers. However, there is also no doubt that she will be resurrected and discover she is homosexual. PPPS - The Humberta Humberta in me has also fallen for that little minxette Junie B. Jones. With sums of her tales in her trysts with fruitcake that read as "Junie B. wins the Cake Walk, she chooses the bestest cake of all - the one wrapped in sparkly aluminum foil. How was she to know it was a lethal weapon?" it was hard for me to resist. PPPPS - I'm also in love with Duncan Quagmire (http://www.lemonysnicket.com/tc_duncan.html) but as I will be playing his sister for Halloween - the ardor is currently being kept under tabs PPPPPS - Pecan pie will do for now. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 00:47:39 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:47:39 Subject: Sinister: Nashville's Mini Picnic Message-ID: I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the Chicago picnic, but I had a little picnic of my own in Tennessee. Malaprop Amy visited me at my brother's wedding in Nashville and we had an awesome time. Ms. Amy Bancroft didn't come to the actual wedding, so she missed the bagpipes-- but she met ALL my family and several strangers at the reception and we danced all night long. I must say, though, that if anybody needs a lovely date for a wedding reception, then they should contact Amy. What a doll! I'll let Ryan slide this time, since I've been cheating on my Rachel, but he better be nice to my girl or I'll make sure he stays in the nursery. Just kidding, Ryan. Rachel tells me that this Ryan kid is a hardcore gangsta thug who might bust a cap in my ass, so I'm going to leave him be for now. Just be good to my girl is all I'm sayin'. Love and hugs and kisses, Colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 04:37:56 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:37:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boy with the Golden Goo Message-ID: Hullo Sinister Kiddies, In case anyone had any doubts, Miss Elise Spry is an angel. Not only did she let me crash on her sofa, but she gave me a grand tour of Madison and took me to the absolute best places for breakfast. Sean's an ace chap as well, and the two of them make an astonishingly cute couple, the other Chicago picnic peeps can back me up on this. I introduced the two of them to wonders of Red Bull and Vodka, because I wish everyone to share in the wonder that is that magickal drink. They were willing converts. I was quite pleased to see that Elise enjoyed the Moldy Peaches. Run, do not walk, to your local record shop (or shoppe) and buy their self-titled album. It is the crowning achievement of skank-rock. My hair goo is ICE Spiker, and I likes it because it makes my hair all spikey without making it all nasty and slimy. It has Elise's seal of approval. The Sinister Chicago picnic went well, even if it seemed like the weather conspired against us. Somehow we survived the mad flooding to meet-up at the Art Institute and go out for dinner. Stine infected me with the phrase "Punk Rock", and now that's become my new exclimation. I intend to infect as many people as possible. If you find yourself shouting "PUNK ROCK!" in an exclimation of happiness, blame Stine, she started it. Also in attendence was the lovely Nikki and Adam, Sinister's Man in Chicago. Adam's got the hook-up, he knows the score. You need to find the subway? You need to find a place to eat? You need to find a table? Adam is the Man with the Plan. Both Elise and Sean insist that I look like 'Jack' from TV's Will & Grace "from the right angle". What angle that is I'm not sure of, and since I've never seen Will & Grace I don't know if looking like Jack is a good or bad thing, but they did seem to find me saying "Just Jim!" extremely funny. Needless to say, the Chicago picnic was a blast and a good time was had by all. Elise and Sean were excellent hosts and made for a very cool weekend. In the world of Sinister Laura Llew mentioned her love of Carson McCullers, a love I share. I do believe I'm the one who introduced Miss Llew to the wonder that is McCullers, everyone should give THE HEART IS A LONELY HUNTER a read, it's a work of brilliance matched only by CATCHER IN THE RYE and TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. If you don't belive me, just listen to Llew, she wouldn't steer you wrong. Lovely LLew also said: "Plus, HUGE SHOUTS, much admiration, love, hugs, kisses, and general overall worship to JIMMY G who had my future cabanna boy, Stuart Murdoch, autograph a ticket to one of the western B&S shows for me" Awww, she makes me blush, she does. I must admit I didn't mention the cabanna boy business to Stu, I didn't want to tip him to Lil Llew's kidnapping plots. Fear the Llew and her Love Dungeon, it has claimed many a brave soul. Lola mentioned "le fabuleux dest�n d'am�l�e poula�n", I've heard a lot of good things about this, mostly from my UK friends, is this playing anywhere in the states yet? *sigh* I suppose I'll have to wait for the US DVD release. I've been reading a bit of Iain Sinclair this weekend, WHITE CHAPPELL, SCARLET TRACINGS to be exact. Utterly mad stuff and a joy to watch Sinclair do rude things to the English language. Oh, and go see GHOST WORLD, it's ace. If you like it you should buy the graphic novel by Dan Clowes, it's quite ace as well, and the source material for the movie. *sigh* It's almost a shame we're all so scattered across the globe, after meeting up with the absolutly brilliant people that are the Chi-town crew, I almost wish we did have that Sinister village out there somewhere. I think there's only one way to sum up the past weekend and the Sinister peeps: "PUNK ROCK!" Jim "I don't know what I'd do with myself if I had to be on the lookout for the Antichrist all the goddamned time." - Fiddlegirl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 07:09:09 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:09:09 Subject: Sinister: Bob Dylan and my Dad. Message-ID: Hello All. Well, I saw Bob Dylan last night. I'll say it was really cool, but honestly I'm a bit confused by it all. You see, I can't remember a time when I was like oh, Bob Dylan, he's cool. (except when I asked my mom who he actually was one time when I was like 7 and thought he was one of the Beatles) My little brother was named after him, Dylan being his middle name. So, you'll understand when I felt sad when my dad left one ticket at home after we had driven 40 minutes to the venue. He drove back and after about an hour and a half into the set my dad showed up. So in-between worrying if my dad was ever going to see this guy or if he crashed on the way I was watching Dylan rock out. And by golly he can rock out, the man is an amazing guitar player and his band was as tight as could be. He played for two hours and about twenty minutes too! and he's 60! The true joy of going to see this show was hanging out with my dad and watch him throw up a peace sign to dylan on stage as he acknowledged the audience... It looks like I'm going to have to shave (or at least) buzz my head in the next week or so. I'm feeling very self conscience about it. Up until 2 years ago I had really long hair, and now, for a play I'm doing I have to buzz my head weird. I really just don't want to walk around like a skin head is all, and I don't really wear hats. I had the Idea of wearing glasses at work (though I don't need them) so that my tip's don't suffer do to my lumpy headed appearance. I don't know maybe it won't be so bad. My brother, whom i mentioned before likes the Jonathan David CD. well at least Carriage Clock, he's 12. I can't get the strokes and ben folds out of my head though. Even at the dylan concert, unfortunately. I'm going to go see Ben Folds at a bowling alley on Wend. in L.A. "bowling with ben". I'm looking forward to it. The room I'm in right now smells like cat barf. It's really gross, though I can't find the source of the smell, other than the cat it self. I got some fillings today, My first ones, weird I know, it didn't hurt. I'm falling asleep, goodnight. or day. take care, tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Tue Oct 16 12:36:38 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (velocity farewell) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 04:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sHe LoVes It WheN he SiNgS LiKe eLviS... Message-ID: <20011016113638.49358.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> hello the sinisteR typeS! how have you all been? it's been a while eh? I kept thinking i should post but my lazy nature would always find excuses not to... then I read my LauRal's post today and it inspiRed me to write... LauRal mou, i loved the e.e.cummings' poem... but i think that there's a lesbian aura that's started surrounding spinister-ism... people might think that being single and maintaining this divine maid state is just a way to hide our homosexuality... well, let them think what they want... we're happy by ourselves, our spookydog and by sipping strawberry tea sitting at our porch commenting on the passers by, aren't we? cats? they're so last year darling!! not to mention le cupid that lives in our dungeon... and yes, laural told no lies, cupid's become a master indeed on chocolate maroon cakes and not only! But time has come for us to make the ultimate sacrifice... we have to be apart from cupid at least for a while until world peace's restored... you see, we believe that the only way to do that is by using cupid in ways you can't imagine... but you'll read all about it in our next spinisterine post... It's OctobeR already... tis been 3 months since i left fair ol' britain... i went to the british council the other day and they told me that i had a good chance of being accepted in glasgow's fine arts school... well, i'll have to pay some fees but i can manage hopefully... so my plans of moving there are still on... my mum, honey's aunt tasouli, will visit me in glasgow too and she's planning to amaze glaswegians with her spicy mediteranean cuisine!! A while ago someone wrote about me that i reminded them of Jane Austen... sorry i can't remember your name... I don't know if you meant that as a compliment, i can't really remember your post now, but i took it as a compliment coz i love miss austen... then i read my llew's post and Mark Twain's comments about austen and i thought i should reply to that too... You see you should always consider the era an author has lived in... besides that, i love the way austen writes about 19th century england... it's weird but whenever i feel depressed or scared i always go and take one of my austen books to read for the x-th time... i love re-reading them... i have them all... when my ex visited me recently he was really surprised to see that i had all her books!! he's never read any austen books and he thought, well, let's say that he agrees with mr twain's opinion... but austen's not simple... there's more under the surface... Sir Walter Scott wrote about Austen in 1816, "austen's work and her characters remind us of the flemish school of painting. Her themes are not always refined and, by no means, never pompous; but they're given in such a truthfulness and accuracy that pleases the reader". But i tend to agree with E.M. Forster, one of my fave authors, who wrote in 1923: "I do confess that i too belong in the party of Austenites and thus, being slightly stupefied with Jane Austen. Oh my slow-witted phraseology, the unbattered by fire on which i place it, how much they must enrage, let us say, a stevensonite! But Jane Austen is something else! She is my favourite author! I read and re-read her work, with my mouth open and my mind shut. Settled down in endless pleasure, I salute her by the name of the kindest hostess whilst the critical ability is asleep. The austenite has such an insignificant wit compared to the one that he so open-handedly attributes to his idol. Like the devoted christians that go to church so often that they stop paying any attention to the text."... and miss Virginia Woolf wrote that austen was the perfect woman author and that her talents were in a uniquely perfect balance... Ok, that's it for miss austen... sorry if i've bored you to tears with all that but one has to cherrish her (his) obsessions, right? and defend them when needed! My precious gingerfox told me that Jonathan Richman was playing in London on Saturday!! i was so so jealous... but it's my greedy nature that makes me jealous... I saw richman live twice... first time was 10 years ago and i was indeed (like sir w.scott would say) stupefied!! and i saw him again 4 years ago and it was weird but he looked as if not one day had passed by since the last time i had seen him... lucky londonsods! i hope you all went to that gig!! I'm wearing my old wranglers today in Jonathan's honour as he sings that "he never wears levis just wranglers!"!! That was all for now daaahlins! and by writting "dahling" it's just hit me!!! STAYC!!COME BACK SOON OR I'LL DISOWN YOU!! Take care the lot of you... Vel xxx PS: The PF!! I'll write to you soon... i'm sorry i haven't replied yet but i've been so very busy, not to mention that my internet connection at home's dead!! I miss talking with you loads... i've come up with some new ideas about music-genre-bastardisation that i think you'd appeciate!! the same goes for my Sally... about my delay in replying that is... PpS: Cabbagio big hugs!! and give my love to little spRout!! tell her that once i'm back we'll go dancing again... PppS: Happy BiRthday to all the october-children... Ppps: all of you uk-ers should go and see tompaulin live.. here are the dates: 24th october - mean fiddler,london(supporting cinerama) 25th october - oxford (venue as yet unknown) 31st october - the basement, chelmsford, bitterscene __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 13:03:13 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:03:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Blair's too much guv Message-ID: <3BD6EB94@MailAndNews.com> Hello Oooh typing an sinister post from work is rather exciting. If I stick to the 15-minutes rule, I can earn at least 2 pounds for writing a post! I can be on those McDonald's adverts that go "This is how much work Ken Chu had to do to earn a Double Cheeseburger" or something. Ooh! People want to send me tapes? Great! So shall I also spend time at work now thinking up some rules for this competition? Of Course I should! *********************************************************** So, the rules for the world's first "Will Rachel send Ken a tape?" competition: The Wills and the Rachels (mmm was there a Chris's as well? Ok whoever with some sort of first name) decide on a representative who can give me an e-mail and I'll send you back my postie address. The Wills and Rachels and the Chris's and the Beatrices then decide on a tracklist amongst themselves (off list in private please), and then somehow create a tape with that listing on, and post it to me. Once I've got all the tapes I listen to them and then decide on who wins, easy. The tapes will be judged by the following criteria: 1. Your tape can be obscure if you like, but, if it's obscure rubbish then your tape will still fair rubbish. It's quality over obscurity here, but something that I haven't heard before (not difficult) but I like (quite difficult) shall get bonus points. 2. I love puns, the more puns you can fit into your tape, the higher your chances of winning, I am not specifying what kind of puns you wanna do, surprise me with your ingenuity. Wordplay will be your best secret weapun. (hoho) 3.The amount of money you send with your tape. Please make cheques payable to "Mr Kenneth P Chu" To summerise, the tape with the best songs with the best puns with the biggest cheque will win. Wait, am I engaged to Kirsten Kenyon? Tapes and Red bulls Ken ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 15:09:46 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:09:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: bad things dont happpen often Message-ID: <45.d6a6c85.28fd99aa@aol.com> sometimes I think that bad things dont really touch me. Sure I'm still really young and my parents and all relationships end out bad, but my life as a whole is reall overall good. I have a late start today, woke up at 9 instead of six fifteen and got ready to go. My dad's doctor called to tell the results of a test he had undergone last week. He thought i was my mom and mistakenly told me, not my parents, without either of us knowing we weren't supposed to be talking to eachother, that my dad has advanced colon cancer. I dont know what to do. My parents dont know and I cant get in touch with them, its only me. sorry to be depressing, i just needed to say it much love sinister kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 15:37:17 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i think dione warwicke said it best.... Message-ID: <20011016143717.85736.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> thats what friends are for. thanks so much for the kind words yesterday. i appreciate it more than you know. i apologize for being such a downer, i was just in a terrible state. i'm feeling much better today, the sky is blue and the fluffy clouds are smiling...... sinisterines are the best friends around, even if i've never met any of you personally. if you're ever in minneapolis let me know! anyway, i was wondering if any of you have LiveJournal accounts? i'd love to check them out if you do....just let me know. for now.......ta! caleb ben p.s. i hope your tears have dried up kristen kenyon, and you are smiling and laughing....if not here's a little joke for you: Q: what's purple, rides in a limo and carries a gun? A: Al Caplum! (get it? like Al Capone? it's stupid i know.... but i bet you are smiling! :) ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 17:45:29 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: viva rachels! and paintings! Message-ID: <20011016164529.85013.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> have any of you rachels ever heard of the band "rachels"? they are very good instrumental (if i remember correctly) neo-classical indie type stuff. from chicago i think. the only thing i could compare it to would be a cross between the dirty three and Godspeed, but much more austere. check em out....... also, i'm taking requests for original works of art.....if anyone is interested, i'll make an original ink painting for them......i do free form blown ink drawings, with snippets of writings and such (they're not brilliant, but they are me).....ulla gave me the idea, with her awesome hugging pictures. so just email me your mailing addy and a few words you would use to describe yourself (so i can personalize it) if you're interested. since i work in a mail room so i can scam as much postage as i want..... ta! caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willpie_00 at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 19:02:38 2001 From: willpie_00 at xxx.com (Will Porter) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Bookshop girls are librarians who have gone retarded Message-ID: <20011016180238.90133.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com> This just in: "Stuart Murdoch" is an anagram of "cum rod thrust". I expect Pookie to get right to work on this one. also, "rut a smut chord". Not sure if that means anything but it sounds awfully dirty. Okay Wills, huddle. Alright, now which of you accepted the mix tape duel? ARE YOU MAD? You NEVER let your opponent choose the weapon. Especially those crafty Rachels (let's face it, the Chrises aren't much of a threat, what with that sleeka sounds fellow gone). We should have insisted on pistols at dawn, but now you've botched it. Must I do *everything* around here? Now. LL said: > Will Porter can come out from under his bed I am *not* hiding, dammit. I am a busy man. I have a job, you know. Okay, truth be told, my bed is just a mattress on the floor, so I don't fit under it. I was behind the door. And THEN she said: > the only other member of my > audience will be some desperately lonely old male librarian who saw a light > in the window of the lecture hall and hopefully came in to escape the cold > and the horrors of his personal hell (realizing years before that bookshops > were superior but being too proud to admit to it so he kept being > transferred from branch to brooklyn branch and becoming so desperate at > times that he even considered moving to Iowa). To which I can only respond: Ha, ha, and HA. Your habit of lending things betrays you bookshop girl (which, incidentally, can be sung to the tune of the Dead Milkmen's "Punk Rock Girl"): face it, you're practically a librarian now--throw aside the decadence of your capitalist world and join us! We've got steady (if meagre) wages and a decent dental plan! Yeah! Love me, love my library! I think I need to start sleeping in a different position because I keep waking up with headaches, but it's hard to change what you do when you're asleep because, well, you're asleep at the time. I like biscuits. xo will porter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ironicmonkeys at xxx.uk Tue Oct 16 19:24:28 2001 From: ironicmonkeys at xxx.uk (kieran devaney) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:24:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a heart thats full up like a lemsip Message-ID: <005e01c1566f$cca1d100$4da487d9@005966420051> i've never actually tried lempsip, although i have a romantic notion of it being a wonderful warm lemony experience which would relieve any cold or sore throat ailing me at the time however i think that trying the stuff would probably shatter this idyllic scene, because it's probably nasty and sticky in the harsh reality theres a wider metaphor there, but i wont bore you by putting it into awkward prose the title is a bastardisation of the line from 'no suprises' which is a gorgeous song the real reason for this email (because lempsips aren't enough of a reason) is because of a game my friend and i invented today, which kept us going through a rather dull english lesson/lunchtime combo it's called indie dreamteam, but the name is pending investigation it's based on those slightly naff fantasy football leagues that so many people seem to like and the whole game is deliberate sort of naff in a loosely ironic way but it's all held together with magic glue the premise is that you pick 11 players and 5 substitutes (just like football i hear you cry!) except the players have to be indie heroes icons whatever, or at least people who embrace a spirit of indie music in something that they do your team will obviously reflect your own taste in music, but we came up with a couple of extra rules just for fun for example the three foreigners rule - a return for the much maligned european cup rule... you are allowed three people not from your country only, thats your lot, the rest have to come from where you live (a bit unfair for europeans who want to play, but you can pretend you live in the UK i guess... although another country based one would be fun). we decided that the UK would count as the country, mostly because there are too many good people in scotland and wales to miss girls rule - you have to have at least two girls (because everyone likes girls) and these can be your foreigners if you want or substitutes obsolete characters rule - you are allowed one person who is dead, or not making music anymore if you want, but it isn't compulsory... there was some consternation as to whether morrissey or lauren laverne counted as still making music, and an agreement wasn't reached as to whether both could be used we did decide for yourselves i think thats it a sort of generic team we worked out goes like this 1: Aidan Moffat - Arab Strap 2:Jarvis Cocker - Pulp 3: Steve Malkmus - Solo Stuff/Pavement 4: Stuart Murdoch - B&S 5: David Gedge - Cinerama/Wedding Present 6: PJ Harvey 7: Gruff Rhys - SFA 8: Morrissey - Smiths/Solo Stuff 9: Isobel Campbell - B&S/Gentle Waves 10: Darren Hayman - Hefner 11: Mark E. Smith - The Fall subs 12: Euros Childs - Gorkys 13: Lauren Laverne - Solo Stuff/Kenickie 14: Stuart Braithwaite - Mogwai 15: Efrim ??? - Godspeed You Black Emperor! 16: Justine Frischman - Elastica hopefully that embraces the spirit of indie in all it's swirling greatness just as a disclaimer: i hate football anyway enjoy after all that, i imagine no one will play peace and love kieran +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Tue Oct 16 21:33:11 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:33:11 Subject: Sinister: the infinite sadness. Message-ID: <173853812@spray.se> Hullo, Sorry for posting again in such a short while. i think I posted yesterday, but I can´t remember. I´m listening to the Smashing Pumpkins at the moment and I am feeling like kicking at things. Ahhh. I have to do a mixtape for my friend Anna whom I don´t really like at the moment because I promised her to make one - it´s her birthday tomorrow, so, ah, I have to make one. She´s just vulgar at the moment and has been saying VERY rude things all day, and I know It´s now who she is, it´s just to play cool in front of the others in our band. So I kind of was by myself all day in school. It was quite horrible. And someone in our school is sending enormously rude messages on the internet to all of the members in our band, and knows a gut called erik as well. it´s dead weird and very frustrating not knowing who it is that´s really STUPID and CHILDISH and I am just so sick of all my friends as well, they´re so childish and has to runt over and scream POOP! in your ear when you least expect it. I just want to sit somewhere nice, sip ribena, listen to some nice music and take it easy. Not having to fear that your friends are going to say something dirty or just being really rude and not very nice. I feel like such an outcast, and sometimes I can say rude things as well, but I certainly don´t feel like doing that everyday. Ah, where are all the NICE people? Well, they´re on sinister. And not here. I have to do a B&S-tape for her, that´s the only thing my friend wished for and since I don´t have any money left that´s my only choise. I know it sounds horrible, but I don´t want her to listen to B&S because she is such a bitch and never care about other people´s feelings. Oh, and they really ARE harrassing me for listening to B&S! I have pictures of B&S in my locker so that my days will not be so horrible, but they point at them and say that they are ugly and stupid and that I listen to geeky music. Sigh. They´ll never learn I guess. And that´s just their loss, I don´t care. They are not very smart, so what could you expect from someone who´ll hug you (that´s when I think they´re being nice) and then whisper in a sleazy voice "Do you want to have sex with me, you slut. Well come to my room in the motel" and I know I probably should find it hilarious, but I don´t. It just frightens me. Take care kittens! Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet pÃ¥ http://www.spray.se Ny chatt pÃ¥ Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 22:02:03 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:02:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a heart thats full up like a lemsip Message-ID: here's my indie dreamteam (according to kieran's rules) surprizingly only one of my foreign players is american, the others being jamaican and icelandic. i havent really stuck to the 'indie' of the title but i'm sure it can be excused. 1 jason pierce spacemen 3/spiritualized 2 mani stone roses/primal scream 3 jon por birgisson* sigur ros 4 bobby gillespie jesus and mary chain/primal scream 5 stuart braithwaite mogwai 6 gruff rhys super furry animals 7 shaun ryder happy mondays/black grape 8 lauren laverne~ kenickie/solo 9 flea* red hot chili peppers 10 aphex twin solo 11 aston 'family man' barrett* the wailers subs 12 ian brown stone roses/solo 13 tim wheeler ash 14 george harrison+ beatles/solo 15 nick drake solo 16 kim deal~ pixies/breeders * foreign ~ female + obsolete the whole thing is quite close to the fantasy band game where the player chooses a group of musicians to form their ideal band - here's mine: vocals fergal sharkey undertones guitar stuart braithwaite mogwai bass flea red hot chili peppers drums reni stone roses keys cian ciaran super furry animals oakie dokie cheeriokie Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 16 23:12:33 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: indie dreamteam Message-ID: <20011016221233.41629.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> 1. robert smith---the cure 2. robin guthrie---cocteau twins 3. serge gainsbourg---yeah laugh all you want :) 4. david bowie 5. morrissey 6. ian curtis*----joy division 7. elizabeth fraser#---cocteau twins 8. stuart murdoch--b&s 9. peter murphy---bauhaus/solo 10. stephen merritt---magnetic fields/the 6ths/future bible heroes/gothic archies 11. lisa gerrard#---dead can dance/solo * dead # female subs: michael gira--swans ronny moorings---clan of xymox andrew eldritch---sisters of mercy kevin shields---my bloody valentine stuart braithwaite----mogwai blixa bargeld----the bad seeds/einsturzende neubauten peter hook----new order ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 05:43:12 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:43:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: time exists, just on your wrists so dont panic Message-ID: hi everyone. i hope all of you are doing your very best. youre special after all. as for me? well, before i go onto my raving bitch tangent id like to mention chicago. i had such a lovely time with the crew on saturday. even though it was monsooning in our fare city, the company was lovely. that was the first formal sinister meeting ive attended and am glad to know that the pedestal ive put sinisterees on is very appropriate. what amazing people. and sean and jim and elise let me listen to travis all day and didnt complain...not even a scoach. :o) and nikki was just so very sweet with her lil southern drawl :o) punk rock indeed! so now onto me being a bitter and jaded old spinster. i think i have decided to write off boys all together! geesh. why arent there any intelligent nice considerate employed straight men here? cuz theyre all in england and scotland i suspect. perhaps i just make them utopic so i have some hope that somewhere in the world boys arent stupid....i just have the misfortune of meeting the ones that are. and another thing, if i may. why is it that you can be there for your friends unconditionally. listen to them when they have their hearts broken, bring them ice cream, just be there for them when they need you. then, all the sudden they meet someone new and have no time for you? i mean, of course i dont expect to monoploise anyones life, but i dont think th´ øccasional phone call is being too demanding. there are many faults that i have, but i can honestly say that i have never put my friendships at risk for a guy. oh well. what do i know? im just in a foul mood. oh well. hopefully it isnt a problem too big for ben & jerry's. i hope all of you are toadie. as you are so once was i remember this as time goes by as i am now soon you will be remember this and pray for me ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 04:58:32 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:58:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: My roommate thought she was making a joke but she made me write this monstrously long thing Message-ID: <133.329ea01.28fe5be8@aol.com> yeah, and the fake british accent was real cute too. Ugh. Do I cry myself to sleep? Sometimes, though I try not to. I cried today because he was too busy to talk to me. Not that he didn't want to. Neither of us wants to slight our friends for each other, or annoy people while we're on the phone. I just needed him then and knew it would be best to wait. He's complained of missing me more than I've done, though I find myself becoming much more vocal on that subject. I just ran through pouring rain to get hot chocolate. I got two cups of the stuff. I thought it would make me feel better. I'm enjoying them but I'm not sure I feel better. I'm thinking of how much I hated running through the rain, but how I would walk slowly through it with him and not mind, not even notice. We don't just hold hands when we walk together; we hold each other, both of us more content the closer we are. I keep thinking of the time when we were in his computer room and he didn't want me to sit on a separate chair. He said he wasn't as happy if we! weren't together. Maybe it's a symptom of a long distance relationship, but I think it's more than that. When we're together things that usually bother me don't seem to matter. Today he told me that the bad music his friends were playing stopped when he talked to me. Not that they turned it off, he just didn't notice. He does the same thing to me. Everything is better when he's with me, even if it is just on the phone or online, but especially when we're physically together. The bad things aren't so bad. I can tolerate crappy music more. I don't mind walking in the rain. I can be more patient. The good things are even better. Good music means more. TV shows and movies are better. I'm better. If it's cheesy to say that to me the safest place in the world is in his arms, then call me sharp cheddar (though in most cases I prefer mozzarella.) I lost any sense of a house being home when I met him. Home is where he is. With him is where I feel truly comfortable, i! nstantly the moment we're together. My mother felt she had to m ake sure that I knew that I could have been happy with other people. I realize chances are I would have met someone here at college and had a relationship that made me happy if I had never met him. I'm so glad I did meet him because no one has ever understood me like he does, not family, friends, anyone. I seriously doubt anyone else could. There's no one else like him. To think before I met him I thought I wasn't a lucky person. I'm beginning to think I have to move to England right away. I'm realizing what is really important to me. Thank you for giving me a forum to empty my brain into. I had to write this before I could even think about writing the essay on tragedy that is due tomorrow. On a completely unrelated note: there should be a Boston picnic if I am not the only person in the area. I think it would be fun to have it in the aquarium. But that's probably just me. I adore aquariums. I apologize for my lack of paragraphication. I'm incapable of it when I just write what I'm thinking. Kara Jean Daria Brielmann* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 06:55:42 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:55:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: auburn...leviticus Message-ID: the sky was an odd smokey blue color (i believe crayola used to call it "cadet blue") and made the factory district look very red as i drove over the bypass this afternoon. they're not factories anymore...not most of them. i've often thought about renting a studio space in a certain warehouse with a tall brick tower, but if i worked there i'd have to live there...studio space isn't cheap, i guess. sometimes it looks like it might be fun to wander around the burned-out factories and the warehouses under the bypass. so i did it once and, believe it or not, it was something less than thrilling. i'm not sure what i'd expected. that was years ago, and what i recall of it now reminds me of "sunflower sutra" which, in turn, reminds me of a seemingly-sweet boy from leeds who turned out to be quite unpleasant. or i could look on the bright side and have it remind me of someone genuinely lovely. either way, the factories aren't all that interesting and my copy of sunflower sutra is gone for good...somewhere in leeds, probably shoved under a dirty ashtray and forgotten. i had a good giggle over caleb ben's al caplum joke. i don't know why, but something about plums strikes me as silly. maybe it's the fact that my dear grandmother once got confused to the brink of laughing tears trying to play "clue." or it's the memory of being drunk off wine in the afternoon, sitting on a park bench in nice with aimee, giggling and feeding plums and brie to an ugly mob of moulting pigeons. or it could be ezra pound. and if it's ezra pound, it might as well be a boy i used to know who once described a bottle of gatorade in his refrigerator as "so sweet and so cold." gatorade is certainly funny. tonight i enjoyed my tea and the company of a nice boy named matthew, and we talked about sacré coeur and vonnegut and easy cheese, and a strange man at the corner table yelled something to matthew in a language i didn't understand, then walked by and dropped a folded napkin in front of him and said "enjoy. is for free." i giggled, thinking that was a funny thing to say when handing out one's phone number. but it was a napkin full of marijuana instead, and i gasped and matthew giggled and stuck it in his bag, and we talked for a bit about amsterdam, and when i think of amsterdam i think of my poor lost sketchbook and a pub called the blarney stone. and of quentin tarantino and the hotel tamara and acrobats. leslie and i had something of a tournament tonight...taking turns balancing on a giant red "exercise ball" and timing each other on a little silver watch. there wasn't a lot of space and it was quite dangerous, really. no blood was shed, but the contest ended with me standing on a chair with a mouthful of screws, trying to reattach a curtain rod to the crumbly plaster wall. old houses like that...you're really not supposed to put screws in the plaster. but someone renovated and took out the crown moulding...anyway, i'm not exactly bob vila and we ended up sticking the bracket to the wall with masking tape. pretty shoddy work. and so. it sounds like chicago was a good time. the art institute is nice. the last time i was there, i saw some installations by bill viola. raining and burning and owls and televisions and a birthday party. and we had thai and wandered into a church and ran through a sprinkler, and it was supposed to be a field trip but mostly it was just walking and looking at frank lloyd wright coffee mugs and smoking cigarettes. well that's quite enough. love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 06:17:07 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 06:17:07 Subject: No subject Message-ID: my team... 1. Neil Young 2. Rivers Cuomo 3. Stevie Jackson-Belle and Sebastian 4. Kim Deal-Pixies 5. Isobelle Cambell-Belle and Sebastian 6. Ben Folds 7. Mike Daughty-Soul Coughing 8. Mark Mothersbaugh-Devo 9. David Byrn-Talking Heads/solo 10. Isaac Brock-Modest Mouse 11. Nick McCabe-Verve subs 1. dougie from travis 2. Frank Zappa 3. Stuart Murdoch 4. Tim Wheeler 5. Frank Black sorry about misspellings, it'll probably change tomarrow _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 09:48:18 2001 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:48:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm a little dinosaur Message-ID: <8E9E9BDDFB67F04794028C4835727F8068093A@sv-lon-exc-001.hitplc.net> Dear Sinister. As I am 44 digests behind, can I ask that you all stop posting for a bit so that I can catch up? Very good of you. Thanks! Markx p.s. saw Jonathan Richman the other day after being largely unaware of his genius. He IS good, isn't he? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 08:22:24 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:22:24 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Is This It? Message-ID: So... I know The Strokes are somewhat taboo on this list, but since everyone here writes about anything they want (for the most part), I'm going to put my two cents (or pence) in on The Strokes. I just saw them here at the Fillmore in San Francisco. The greatest things about shows playing in Bill Graham venues are the posters. I got a free one for Belle & Sebastian and now one for the Strokes. Anyways, these guys rawk! I needed a good rawking since I've been listening to lo-fi indie for the last month and a half. Just pure rawk and it was so nice to jump around and get hurt. Oh, and the Moldy Peaches were funny as hell! I have to get their album now. Anyways, that's my rant. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Emoflute at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 11:37:09 2001 From: Emoflute at xxx.com (Emoflute at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 06:37:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: Real Glasgow Bands Message-ID: <4b.12bbac17.28feb955@aol.com> as much as i like Belle and Sebastian, you should all check how good Stapleton from Glasgow. check out a file of a song from their new album at www.subjugation.co.uk thanks ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Tue Oct 16 12:57:17 2001 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:57:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: indie dreamteam References: <20011016221233.41629.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c15639$b5d5d920$b91699c1@teleline.es> Oh, this tempted me to write again for the first time in ages. That´s what I call an interesting topic and not all the moaning that I read here ;) (It was a joke, kids, I love you all) I wouldn´t make play many semi-goth players as Caleb did. Their dresses would easily be confused with the referees. And I wouldn´t laugh at making Gainsbourg play, even tough french players choose bad foreign teams to play (mr.Zinedine Zidane is an example) Team: Goalkeeper (a very curious position) 1-That guy that used to sing in Ultrasound (obvious reason) Defence: 2- Stuart Mogwai (too much noise makes the opponent go mad) 3- Kevin Shields (see above) 4- Jack from the White Stripes (the same, and don´t make me think what to do with Meg......) Midfield: 5- Caetano Veloso (brazilians are always necessary) 6- Dominique A (very well organized french midfield) 7- Darren Hayman (a very natural Guardiola for an indie team) 8- Miguel Marin (Piano Magic drummer, we always need a spanish player to break the opponent´s legs) Attack: 9- Stuart Murdoch (mind you, I´ve checked him myself) 10 - (FILL NAME) from Broadcast (just a song from them and the defenders and goalkeeper would wonder what is making them stay still and listen to the most beautiful sounds of space) 11- Morrissey (he was good at footie when he was young, I think) --- subs: -Frank Black (goalkeeper) -Björk (fast and hard to see forward player) -Gida or Kristin from Müm (they´d play half time each and no one would notice) -Noel Gallagher (violent defender) -Jon Spencer (scary midfield player) ----- Original Message ----- From: caleb ben moore To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:12 PM Subject: Sinister: indie dreamteam > 1. robert smith---the cure > 2. robin guthrie---cocteau twins > 3. serge gainsbourg---yeah laugh all you want :) > 4. david bowie > 5. morrissey > 6. ian curtis*----joy division > 7. elizabeth fraser#---cocteau twins > 8. stuart murdoch--b&s > 9. peter murphy---bauhaus/solo > 10. stephen merritt---magnetic fields/the > 6ths/future bible heroes/gothic archies > 11. lisa gerrard#---dead can dance/solo > > * dead > # female > > subs: > > michael gira--swans > ronny moorings---clan of xymox > andrew eldritch---sisters of mercy > kevin shields---my bloody valentine > stuart braithwaite----mogwai > blixa bargeld----the bad seeds/einsturzende > neubauten > peter hook----new order > > > > ===== > And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life > and I think about death > and neither one particularly appeals to me > and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion > I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie > in the middle of the street and die > I'd lie down and die ------morrissey > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snegulja at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 13:09:11 2001 From: snegulja at xxx.com (Snezana Vlajkov) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:09:11 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Today is the first day of my vacation. I'm happy for it,but I'm also worried because I don't know how I will spend all this free time. A chance for fun is almost a no-chance here. Over the week it seems like time is stopped,and weekends are basicly the same. I listen to the same music,look at same people and drink the same beer for years. Maybe thats because I live in a small town,or maybe is not. In this small town clubs work until 00:00. Can you imagine?! Thats the reason I travel to other cities. At least there I drink some other beer and listen to music I love... Last saturday there was a clubbing called earth-dance. In 700 cities all over the world was ment to be played the same tune at the same time. My town was one of that 700,but we didn't heard that tune. Where do I live?! You possibly wonder. And I wonder where I and how will live for next two weeks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kayemess at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 13:47:50 2001 From: Kayemess at xxx.com (Kayemess at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:47:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: Flagrant London list abuse Message-ID: <9a.1b53f5c1.28fed7fb@aol.com> My little rabbits, Does anyone know of anyone who might have a friend with a spare ticket to DJ Shadow at the Scala on the 28th of this month? I wouldn't be so bold as to ask any of you lot for your spare tickets, but should you wish to volunteer them, I'm willing to pay for them in pounds, dollars, or cakes depending on what works best for you. You can send your responses to my work address, which I check about 9000 times a day: kschaffenberger at beso.org. Much love, Kristen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Wed Oct 17 15:28:11 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:28:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: in a town so small there's no escaping you Message-ID: We rule the school - a true story I met a sinisterette last week and it turned out she went to my old high school. We had the same clarinet teacher and form room and everything. How ace is that? Crushed - another true story How crushed would you be if your crush announced that she had been crushed by who she crushed but it wasn't you? This happened to me. boo hoo. LondonIndieUSA Fanbloodytastic. Pulp segues (I've always wanted to use that word) seamlessly into S Club 7 into B&S into PJ & Duncan (props to Starry Sarah for Let's Get Ready To Rumble) I will have to put up a blue plaque above my front door, to commemorate that "Ken Chu played here" cos he did you know, and it was GREAT!!! Reports of a live performance by "benapps's band" are vastly exaggerated. London Sinister Xmas/winter meet-up? I reckon first snowfall. Primrose Hill. Dawn. I often wish I was as eloquent as some of the lovely souls that post to this list. But I'm not. As eloquent. So I keep it short. But not. As short. As richard. Gillanders. ttfn Ben xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Wed Oct 17 18:47:27 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:47:27 +200 Subject: Sinister: it's days and months since i've seen you last Message-ID: hallo everyone your solitary soul bringing glad tidings and even more full inboxes to all from the increasingly sunny southern tip of africa. ("have you missed me" is the sort of question i've learnt not to ask, and damnit! (sorry) who do i think i am anyway?) well, to start, actually there are several things wrong with the willfully misconstrued and misquoted subject-heading-thingy. they can be listed, in order of no particular significance, as: 1. it hasn't really been that long. 2. i've seen YOU, you just haven't seen ME (as if you've noticed) 3.... okay, maybe not that many things wrong. rest assured, though, it wasn't you, it's been me... in fact, after the whole wtc thing, i didn't want to post, because i feel quite strongly about it, but not in the way it would've done any good to tell all the world about. i am SOOO proud of the way you all reacted though (it's been said before, but not by me) then i went away for a while, and since then have been fighting the backlog of mails in my inbox. for some reason i can't delete any of them without reading them (it wouldn't seem right, and i'd have missed so much!) and so have been about - at least 2 days behind everyone else for the last i don't know how long, and not wanting to post before i've caught on. somehow i can't resisit anymore though. and there have been SO many amazingly brilliant posts (it would be no use trying to even remember them all now, nevermind start mentioning). so many i've wanted to respond to off-list (am i'm so sorry i haven't, but time! time!) and others that are so special... just to say then, in general, thanks for all the uplifting ones, and the witty ones, and the grate stories etc. and good luck and hugs for all the people who've felt sad and who will feel sad, and who are kind to enough to let the rest of us know we're not and will not be alone... i wish i could be as geographically close to all of you as i feel otherwise. oh, the magic of a kind word, but hugs are better, mmh? so where have i been? yes, the correct answer would be at a small arts festival in potchefstroom, which NONE of you will have hear of (steve, apologies if i am wrong). how was it? not very arty, but VERY festive. at least 3 good things happened: made lots of money! (just shows, pick material suited to elderly audiences, and the crowds will come - especially if your venues in an old-age home. we had people with walking-frames in the audience, i'm not kidding, oh my brothers! who'd have thought it, hey, your malenky droog making a living for himself by fleecing starry vetches and ptitsas! - sorry if my nadsat's a little rusty, it's been a while!) secondly i have been completely converted to the red bull and vodka brigade (hats off to you, mr. chu!), and lastly spent a very enjoyable afternoon having coffee with a dancer who must easily have been both the most sexy and the most interesting woman in the whole town. (self- described as the result of a one-night stand between her married german mother and a spanish gypsy!) trust me, you have not lived until you've seen rapid and comprehensive costume changes backstage!!! but what's this? me actually talking to people who both interest and attract me? nonsense! the world would end! but wait... isn't it? anyway, have her phone number (which she volunteered, ha-ha!!!) and an invitation to go see her paintings sometime (although, it should be noted that "i'm not ashamed to say that i'm okay, with the girl next door whose famous for showing her chest" - if only i could find her!!!) amongst other good things to have happened: hung out with a really real and really mad scot for the first time (from dundee), got drunk and broke into the rugby stadium to play midnightly football with a tennisball, then gave it up when we realised visibility was really not what it had been made out to be. bought LOTS of new music and books, amongst which the standouts are the ridiculously marvellous and also japanese pizzicato five (whose insane cheerfulness have been driving my wqrryingly trance-prone brother up the wall) the delgados (which took me a while to get into, but has been more than rewarding), mercury rev (which made me angry in a sort of irrational way, because it seemed at the time that only an international conspiracy of vast - or is that, sinister? - proportions could have kept me from discovering them for so long) apples in stereo. then also an album which would win prizes in my book both for greatest band name, and greates album name also ("lips that taste like tears" by the trembling blue stars). very beautiful. can anyone tell me anything about them though, as sleeve-notes are virtulaay non-existent? i think the name comes from the same neruda poem that someone (madeleine? kirsten? sorry can't remember) quoted after the wtc attacks. lastly, must mention that i FINALLY got the sinister album!!! and it's not been overrated at all!!!! can already play the fox in the snow, and do so constantly (my poor brother - he really doesn't have it easy!) maybe more about that at some other time. just had to write again though - it feels so good. sorry for those of you who have now wasted the time to read this - if you don't feel it's been a waste, then this post is dedicated to you. loved jenowl's smile advice, adn would like to re-iterate it here (i'm sure that she won't mind: there's too much love to go around!) love JohaN ps. hang on nisie. i WILL write again soon, i promise. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Wed Oct 17 20:46:53 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:46:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Man Who Loved Beer Message-ID: <20011017194653.44513.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister... I nearly posted the other day while in a bad mood. Glad I didn't now. There's a thing called the New Seriousness - apparently the Old Seriousness wasn't good enough anymore. My New Seriousness was largely due to being sat around trying to kill my latest beer, Wild Turkey and hip-hop induced hangover with my current favourite hangover cure (banana sammich) and my current favourite album (How I Quit Smoking) while constantly assailed by thoughts of a summer well and truly gone. Bugger. It's all temporary of course. The hangover goes. The album stops. The sun shines. You find yourself among friends and you make them fried bananas with sugar and cinnamon. Bananas are good. Re: subject line. The album liner notes credit this song to an 'unknown Egyptian, c. 1990 B.C.' I'm intrigued. Anyone got any info?? I've won some art! Courtesy of Damien Hirst and that fine publication The Idler ( http://www.idler.co.uk ). Apparently it's a painting rather than any sort of gigantic sculpture or pickled livestock. This is good cos I don't have the space for a dead shark in my flat. Can't wait! Laura and Vel are planning to release cupid. Good thing. Despite what that Murdoch chap said, there really isn't enough love right now and the poor blighter's been shut in that basement too long at the mercy of the spinisterines. Hope its not too late to save the World. Thanks to those who Reported Back on the LondonIndieUSA do and congrats on raising all that cash. What a lovely bunch of people you lot are. Wish I could've gone :( Robster ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Wed Oct 17 22:04:38 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:04:38 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the agony without the oil-of-ulay Message-ID: <001301c1574f$56254300$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> ...a week since last so here I am biting my nails wondering what's becoming of the world. my sister came home to visit last weekend. She looked at me and said: "You look exactely like MONCHICHI!" Why, thank you.....umm...or? Ok, they're cute alright, but I'm still not sure I wanna look like one. i turned 21 exactely a week ago. At first I felt nothing, I almost forgot it was my birthday. And then came panic and then came agony, slowly creeping up on me until I just wanted to scream and kick around and go back to my glorious childhood days. Sheesh I'm only 21, what's the fuss? I dunno. during the last couple of days I've got 3 pimples in my face. One on each side of the mouth sort of, and one on my forehead. Now God, I know that I wished for my years not to rush away so quickly, but hey, I didn't mean I wanted to go back to my teens! There's gotta be some cream called "simple, no pimple" out there, I bet. Give it to me now. I used to have this "Clean and Clear" or something when I was in london, but I didn't think I'd be needing it now....stupid. it's not easy living on the countryside. Everyone just teases you all the time (meaning my friends). But I am determined to as soon as possible leave this boring, familyfriendly environment and seek a bigger, dirtier and noisier place to live. Not too big, mind. so I went to stockholm previous weekend, and it was grate! I hadn't been there for such a long time, although I live only 50 minutes by train from there. and we went to this jubilee for a music magazin called Bomben (The Bomb). I only went there to hear the english band Fosca who were playing that night. Boy, where they good! Dickon, the singer, is just really cool and, aah I don't know, well, charming. Too bad he's gay :) Anyway, there were quite a lot of people there, for being such a small event that is. And I felt completely lost. Everyone seemed to be so "cool" and "in" and knew the latest look and latest music. Most of them didn't even bother listening to the bands playing, they were sitting in another room talking and drinking beer. indie as f***. I'm not. we bought a beer each as well since it seemed they only had beer, wine and some strange mix with orange juice to choose from. I'll NEVER drink another BEER in my life! I'd completely forgotten how disgusting it is, yack. Crisps saved my stomach. Beer-crisps-beer-crisps-smoke-beer-crisps-beer-smoke.....etc etc until beer was finished. Phew. Then we found cider.....oh sweet bliss! i bought 2 cds, Ryan Adams and Fosca. Me happy :) things are not going well with one of my subjects in school..."society knowledge" you know, politics, eu, that kind of things. Frankly I suck at it, and I find it boring and I don't understand and I don't remember and I'm not the least interested! I didn't go to the last lesson (I only have 1 lesson a week) and apparently we've started working in groups now. They put me in a group which I've no idea who's in, except for one girl. I have no phone numbers to anyone, and they probably haven't got mine either. I smell Disaster! i wish the mix-tape battle teams good luck! I haven't decided on whom to cheer yet but I honestly believe the Rachels are up for kicking some butt ;) I'm glad I'm not the judge! One mistake and you live in fear for the rest of your life.....boh! finally (this has taken me more like 30-40 minutes than 15. remember I'm yellow-blue) this goes to sinsister Astrid who is also my "mixtape"-sister and whom I assume will get drunk as a saucepan this coming friday :) Big Hug! and hugs to all -An (Monchichi) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 22:01:41 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a dubious endorsement Message-ID: <20011017210141.56541.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Kiddies! I went to the gap (she mutters in shame) last night. I went to look for mens underpants. They did not have any good underpants, mens or womens. However, they *do* have a very, very chic (ladies) long sleeve t-shirt that says "I love my car" on the front in bright pink script on a kewl gray background. Here in Madison, said shirt is on sale for $9.99.* *but the stupid gap staff set the rack of kewl shirts right next to the rack of ugly shirts on sale for $6.99. I got in an argument with the sullen and surly salesgirl that the shirt should be only 6.99, not 9.99. I even showed her the sign, and she said, "oh. that's only the shirts on *that* side." Yeah, it's only three dollars, but it's the damn principal of the matter. Plus, kids is *poor* these days! The point of this post being, there seemed to be a fair number of these shirts left. I think I may toddle down there next week, when the shirts may very well actually be 6.99 and pick a couple up. Email me off list if you want one, I'll only charge you cost + postage. Quantity will be quite limited, I'm sure. **Rachie Frootloop, of course I've got one for you. ***Jim Gilmer, these are *ladies* shirts. But if you want one in extra-large for your "girlfriend", I suppose I have one for you too. love to all, and kisses for Sean, -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com Wed Oct 17 22:34:52 2001 From: stringbeanjean2 at xxx.com (juju cat) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:34:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: this wasn't supposed to happen Message-ID: halo again sinisters... 'streeeeeeeeeeeetch' he says upon returning from yoga class. 'that's what my face is doing right now' i reply. i just bought a flight to the uk. a little juju solo seat. as usual. but this time, it's different. my whole world fell apart. it's been happening for months. and now, just now, as in this past week, my whole world is coming together again. better than ever. closer, warmer, more loving, more exciting.. i feel the bud poking through the ash after the fire. (am i alone in this? when things start to happen, and they just feel right, and sullen dreams become giddy reality, what else can you do but grin a silly grimace to make cube mates accuse you of being insane?) :: the boy who always eludes me is acting in love again. as confusing as it is, it is not taking away from my glee inside. it stirs with the rest of the concoction in my shell. it swirls bright colors between the dark ones. he is orange in my black. :: the friend in the uk who got laid off is soon to be visited by yours truly. we are going to play and forget about time and space and work and obligation. anybody in cambridge?? :: the label who likes our cd has picked us up. all the songs i write and sing and play will be in your local shops uniting us. i couldn't ask for more. :: tonight i will see bjork, the swan princess. i will sit alone in my little juju seat and feel lots and lots of beautiful human feelings. today it is nice to be a girl. so i had to write to you, loverly ones. i read your words and *swoon*... perhaps someday we'll be so many, so close, so few between, all our worlds will be one charming one. but today, today is not like any other day i've lived before. isn't that an amazing thing to think? so glorious, i wonder what i should be wearing for such an occassion. (i feel quite underdressed!!) i'd like to say that sweet rachel threw me a fruitloop like i was a grain of sugar drowning in a bowl of milk. *it makes me feel so much better* i think if her fruit has a flavor, it is certainly grape. listen to my crazy laugh... juju x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 00:13:31 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:13:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Le Parte Oral Message-ID: ¡Hola Sínistér! Don't mind the spanish, I just learned how to make accents and upside down excalimation points and things and I think its sooo cool! "Le Parte Oral" happened to be the first thing on my spanish test outline, which is right in front of my face. I had a revalation the other day. I was saying goodnight to Max, as I always do. And, to piss me off, he said "luv ya" which is my least favorite online phrase, because its so false and cutsie and all that crap. Anyway, I said in return "there's too much luv to go around these days." And suddenly the belle and sebastian song made sense! I had always thought of it as a somewhat annoying song against free love or something. It never quite make sense. But now it does! Its against all those icky teenbopper girls who just luv eachother to death and luv the color pink and luv justin timberlake and, in an attempt to appear "alternative" luv bjork. Belle and sebastin is/are so wonderful!! Sinister has made me love my name. I have never loved it before. Now I do. Just the other day I spent my whole english class thinking about my name and sinister and doodling in my copy of The Odessey. I make really elaborate pictures in the margins. Today I drew a scene of a birthday party and some mushrooms and elfs dancing around the tree I drew yesterday. Also I made a bonzi tree on a table and a man on an island leaning against a palm tree. My english teacher (the walking talking penis named Mr. Weiner) isn't very attentive. Today is Classics Day in Rachelland (aka my room). I just listened to Tigermilk and I listen to Bee Thousand by Guided By Voices a few times on the way home. Thats my favorite album ever. Too bad their music has been getting worse and worse since the day I was born. Well ¡viva rachels! Rachel Grapenut +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starblood at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 00:29:21 2001 From: starblood at xxx.com (:: jenny darling ::) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:29:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: and cast as me was parker posey Message-ID: <200110172327.f9HNRvw27053@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> actually though, this has nothing to with parker posey in the slightest. i don't post much cos i haven't much to say. well, i don't really today...but there were things that came up the last few days that gave me cause to share a bit. audiogalaxy- it's ok. yes it has spyware. but, i have ad-aware and it took the bad stuff away. it's free so everyone should get a copy, at least the audiogalaxy people were nice enough to tell you. real audio won't though.. fosca- someone posted about going to see fosca. i quite adore them. and yes it is true, dickon is cool. and he still reminds me of david sylvian..but then again, i am one of those people who knows too much about music. eep! speaking of..i bought a couple of japan records this past saturday. quality. nothing compared to the hundreds..literally hundreds of dollars i spent last month on records. this music thing is really going to break me soon. and i will enjoy it far too much. ooh, maybe i have a problem. perhaps i know and just don't seem to care. ah! that must be it. livejournal- there was a question if anyone on sinister had one. i do. the username is happybeingsad...because i am mostly. go, you need a good laugh. ok, that was enough uselessness for one evening. sniff..sniff..sniffle ***jenny darling*** -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 03:13:30 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:13:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: hello there friends and neighbours. how are y'all today? i am much more toadie than yesterday. i got a posh new haircut and feel ready to conquer the world. all i need is a monacle and ill be set! hee hee. anyway. i just wanted to thank y'all for listening and to those of you that emailed me privately. you guys are so punk rock! ~stiney ps....aww, kate, thanks for thinking im cute :o) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 01:07:56 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:07:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wee rule the loo Message-ID: <003001c15769$001d7e40$881226d9@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I was in a film the other day, well I felt like I was anyway, it was a lazy sunny Sunday morning, a boy was sitting on his own, with music coming from another room. The sound diffused and distorted by the semi closed doors, he was just sitting there pondering about life. He pondered about life for a while, and then pondered why he pondered about life whilst sitting on the toilet seat having an unloading operation. It was a great place for thinking tho, you are just stuck in this place for a good 10-15 minutes with absolutely nothing you can do, without making a mess. (You can read I guess - someone really clever taught me once that you can get a lot of exam revision in whilst dropping your bombs.. apparently it works) Okay, so I guess there aren't really films where the scenes are set to a guy having a dump in the toilet on a sunny morning (is there? I guess there probably could be a few, pretty shit films), but it was that kind of scene, probably those types you see on film 4. So yes kicking start another crap post with images of my poo, brilliant. But what's life without a little bit of toilet humour every now and then? Full of compost heaps probably. For some reason I got reminded of an old sinister member the other day, so I searched for his posts, and I just spent ages reading a load of posts that people written a year ago, and vaguely remember reading some of them before, sometimes I even remember where I was and what I was doing whilst I was reading the posts.. and no, not in the toilet I didn't have a laptop computer. I wish I can write like Kenneth P Y Chu he was great. Whilst on the subject of toilet humour, I'm gonna reveal all and tell you what underwears I wear, at the moment I'm wearing my "The Rainman" briefs. I'm just taking the piss :-) Look girls if you wanna get to know my inner self there's only one way to find out. Heh, I'm just talking out of my arse now. I wonder how many more crap puns I can do before people'd send me to the outhouse... then I'd really get into shit. Ok tired of it now.. I'm pooped. Solids and Red Bull Ken P.S.: What other English words are there for poo? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 04:43:54 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:43:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: spiritualized Message-ID: <9f.1cd4a26b.28ffa9fa@aol.com> Hey all, First, I would like to thank you all for the kind words and thoughts, its funny how many of you read your emails right away. Thanks anyways, its all going to be OK, for now even though I cant tell my sisters and brother about him. I'll keep you posted. Today was a much better day. I was supposed to meet this guy from Northwestern for coffee yesterday after school but then everything with my dad came up and I had to cancel on him, to make a long story short he was real pissed at me and said something about not wanting to talk to me anymore because I was putting other things before our relationship. We've only been dating for three weeks. That was upsetting, but then today this boy I really like totally was hitting on me and made it all better. People who look like Cat Stevens aren't as nice as they should be. Also, the guy who works in the computer lab for my Comp Imaging class is so cool! He is the first teacher to ever mention B&S to me, and b/c I was wearing the shirt he and I talked for a long time about their albums and other bands and shit. Well, I made him a copy of The Fidelity Wars and he made me a copy of the new Spiritualized, which you should all go out and buy b/c it is soooo good. I was smiling all day because he was so nice for a teacher. Cool Beans. Well, have a great day all. I am in an OK mood today, much better than yesterday, all the news is OK right now. much love sinister kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Thu Oct 18 05:32:49 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (aale002 at xxx.nz) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:32:49 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: Scribbling all over the Nursery walls with crayon..... Message-ID: <1003465969.3bcfacf1c0b4b@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> Goodness, but I'm excited! Spilling Ribena all over the show! Can't wait to be let out of the Nursery, in fact. So I'm writing this in crayon on the wall (hope Mummy doesn't see) to keep myself amused. I probably won't send this to the list when I get my voice, though. Be too embarrassed. Then again, if you're reading this now, it means I decided to prove to myself that I didn't really know it all after all. That's pretty odd, when you think about it. Actually, I'm not just writing this because I want to send it (or not...)I'm trying to avoid doing _real_ work for school. I'm supposed to be working on an essay. It's called '"Can't get enough of your love,baby...": Why Barry White could never be an Evolutionary Psychologist.' I study philosophy and psychology. Mostly, I spend a lot of time drinking tea and thinking and talking, about love and metaphors and brains and possible worlds and other cool things. I want to be a rich and famous philosopher when I grow up. My mother has lost all hope that I'll ever get a real job. And then there's the library. I work at the university library...oh, by the way, I'm in Auckland, New Zealand. Hi, Lawrence! Congrats on your impending matrimonials. Nice to know that when I say something like 'Jesus, Murray and Joseph, that's not a fair suck of the sav!' , someone will understand. ;-} Anyways, I work at the library. I have lots of jobs there. One is to sit at a little desk by the entrance and exit and make sure people aren't stealing books. I'm pretty crap at catching thieves, though, so mostly I just talk to people and look at the girls. Another of my jobs is working in the book returns room. I have to check in all the books that come through the slots. People put some fairly strange things through the slots as well as books. We have a little collection on the wall. The shifts I work are quiet ones, so there isn't really much to do. No one returns books on Wednesday or Thursday nights, or on Saturday afternoons. So I have to find other things to do to amuse myself. Sometimes I wander across the road to see my friend Catherine, who works on the ticketing desk of the Maidment theatre. I have to be careful not to get caught, though. I'm not supposed to leave the book returns room while I'm working. So I pretend I'm a ninja, because no matter what movie you're watching, if it's got ninjas in it, you know it's going to be Quality Entertainment. We also have a competition in the book returns room to see who can find the funniest name. Some books have holds placed on them by patrons (we're not allowed to call them 'punters' anymore.) When we get a book with a hold on it, a little slip is printed out with the title of the book and the person who requested its name. The best one I have found so far is 'Venus Wing Man Mo'. But I don't like playing that game, because everyone else always brings up my own name. It is Andre Enrico Ciriaco Federico Ambrogio Alessi. My sister's name is Katherine Amy Alessi, or just 'Kat'. Go figure. Also, one of the other things I do to amuse myself is have singalongs. I call it 'DIY karaoke'. Tigermilk (my favourite album) is never far from the CD player, nor is If You're Feeling Sinister. I have a grand old time singing along to My Wandering Days Are Over (my favourite song most days) and Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying (my favourite song the rest of the time.) I have to make sure no one can hear me, though, because I'm a baritone. And singing B&S in baritone is just downright silly. The story of how I first heard of B&S is a little silly, too. I was living in Gisborne, which is a tiny little city that claims to be the first city in the world to see the sun each day. Mostly, people just surf. I had gone there for a birthday party one weekend, and spent my return bus ticket money on Guinness, so I ended up staying for a year. I couldn't surf, but I had a deep voice,so I started working on an 'alternative' radio station that was operating out the back of a bar. Instead of getting paid in cash, we got free drinks at the bar. One weekend, New Zealand indie legend Chris Knox (who does solo stuff and also has a side project called the Tall Dwarfs) came to play at the bar, and we interviewed him on air before the show. In one of the song breaks, he mentioned a "really cool band called Belle and Sebastian". Then he asked us if he could spend a few minutes alone in the studio to run the show his way. We were all a little tiddly from the vodka-and-Red-Bulls at the time, so we agreed. I don't quite know what he did, but from that time on, our computer programme with all our playlist on it started acting up. We'd programme Bic Runga's Bursting Through and get Tool's Stinkfist, or Beck's Loser and get Dean Martin's That's Amore. It made life interesting, anyway. After that, I moved back here to Auckland to start uni(again), and while wandering through Borders one day, noticed they had a Belle and Sebastian album on listening post. Remembering Chris Knox's enthusiasm, I popped on the headphones and...well, it was Tigermilk. 'Nuff said, really (except that my friends Ben, who's a Morris dancer, and Catherine, who isn't, both have copies too, because of my enthusiasm/nagging insistence.) Now I spend my days doing all sorts of things. Darcy, who's a friend of mine too, challenges me to a beard-growing competition every summer, and wins every time, so this year I thought I'd get a head start. I started three weeksago. People say I look a little like a fox with it, because of the lighter patches, and the grey. I already had the nickname "Cunning Andre" (well, thatÂ’s what I call myself, anyways-my friend Mia calls me "Machiavellian"), so it seems appropriate, somehow. I guess I'll have to send a picture too, because a beard is kind of a body part. I also spend my weekends dancing like a dervish and having more spontaneous DIY karaoke hours. There are a lot of really good local bands, like Goldenhorse, Handsome Geoffrey and Goodshirt, who are worth going to see when I can't get access to the CD player at the flat to play my B&S. Goldenhorse especially are faves of mine, partially because my friend Catherine (who works at the Maidment) is friends with them, and because they have a name that encourages people to shout out "Go the 'horse!" at random moments during their gigs. I'm toning things down a little now, though, because I'm getting on a bit (25 in December-eeeek!) I'm trying to be a Good Vegetarian, but I seem to fall off the wagon by eating lamb kebabs about three times a week, and the occasional Double Whopper. Darcy says that makes me a Bad Vegetarian. My mother is also worried I'll never find a serious girlfriend in time to have babies and settle down, like all my old friends. I don't really pay much attention to her when she's like that. Instead I just carry on haphazardly pursuing a Sexy Nice Jewellery Making Girl that I know and writing my Great New Zealand Novel. It's called Losing Hope, and it's about not being in love anymore. Or about how the people that aren't with us still affect us. Or something. I get to use my three favourite words, anyway: susurrus, bungalow and expunge. Well, I did go on a bit, didn't I? Bit too self-absorbed, too. Bugger. Never was very good at editing. Oh well. Must do better next time. Right-o, that's me, Cunning Andre +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 07:35:39 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Os fedra ti darllen hwn gei di neud fi In-Reply-To: <20011015103107.69209.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011018063539.41196.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> HELOOOO SINISTERINES! I'd like to begin my REALLY LONG post this fine evening by quoting the grate Laura Llew: "I have found that if you don't have enough time to read all of the sinister posts that just getting to Rachel the Fruitloops will give you all the highlights - a bit like just glancing at the top of post office mullet boy's head." I've often thought of my posts as a bad out of style hairdo dressed up with the fine touches of frosting an tipping bleach that say "Yeah, I meant to do that! Now get into my Pontiac Firebird!" Is that what post office boy is like, Laura? What a Llewser! Of course, the highlights are according to my whims, so if you are hoping to see what has been posted about things other than Ken Chu and fecal matters, !Viva Rachels! and the battle of Wills, Sinister list romances, and anything else that tickles my fancy (li'l self-serving ol' me!), then I suggest that you read the individual posts yourselves, but maybe mine will give you a bit of a "feel" for what's out there if you've fallen behind. Let the summary begin! Richard Gillanders wrote of Steely Dan: "oh. FRUITLOOP - the one that isn't to lose that number is actually 'rikki'. not 'ricky'." I suppose I should have been more specific, I was actually printing the quote in my fanzine about someone named "Ricky" and the spelling was just modified to add to my cleverness! I should have known that you'd notice, your cleverness abounds! ;) But I must say, I find it amusing that you commented about my spelling of rikki/ricky yet nobody seems to be alarmed that the word "probably" is being spelled "prolly" all too often these days, someone tell me that people are just trying to be cute... I predict that "prolly" will be in Webster's dictionary by the end of this century, perhaps even sooner. I think that's prolly as shameful as not knowing who Jack Kerouack is! d'oh! Jim Gilmer wrote: "Stine infected me with the phrase "Punk Rock", and now that's become my new exclimation. I intend to infect as many people as possible. If you find yourself shouting "PUNK ROCK!" in an exclimation of happiness, blame Stine, she started it." OHHH NO! I've adopted the exclaimation now, too! Except in honor of the !Viva Rachels! movement, I prefer to say "PUNK RAQUE" (Rachel is "Raquel" in spanish ya know!) Ken Chu wrote: "To summerise, the tape with the best songs with the best puns with the biggest cheque will win. Wait, am I engaged to Kirsten Kenyon?" OK, you two, what is going on here!? *wink wink, nudge nudge* YOU READ IT KIDS, KEN WILL JUDGE THE MIX TAPE BATTLE!!! HOORAH! ******************************************************* I think the easiest thing for us Rachel Team to do is this: If you are on team Rachel or would like to be, e-mail me with your mailing address. It will then work sort of like a chain. The tape will be recorded on and I am trusting you to use your best judgement about what to put on it. Then you are to mail it to the next person, their address will be provided for you. When the tape is done, it will be returned to me, and then the bribe cheque will be written and sent off with the tape to Ken. Any participants will also receive a copy of our finished masterpiece! ******************************************************* And Will Porter wrote: "We should have insisted on pistols at dawn, but now you've botched it. Must I do *everything* around here?" MOUHAHAHAHAHAHA! *rachie rubs her hands together* and Will Porter also said to miss Laura Llew: "To which I can only respond: Ha, ha, and HA. Your habit of lending things betrays you bookshop girl (which, incidentally, can be sung to the tune of the Dead Milkmen's "Punk Rock Girl")" Which tells me that the !Viva Rachels! gang has *nothing* to worry about!! Dead Milkmen!? (no offense, but C'MON!!!) AN Monchichi (hee!) said : "i wish the mix-tape battle teams good luck! I haven't decided on whom to cheer yet but I honestly believe the Rachels are up for kicking some butt ;) I'm glad I'm not the judge! One mistake and you live in fear for the rest of your life.....boh!" OH YEAH!!!!! We're SO UP FOR IT!!! But listen to AN, Ken, and remember I can put a stop-payment on my cheque! ;) Caleb Ben wrote: "have any of you rachels ever heard of the band "rachels"?" I have heard of The Rachels but have never listened to them. Are they as good as their name? ;) ****************PICNIC? PICNIC. PICNIC!**************** Since the Chicago Picnic was so fabulous last weekend, I want to have a Southern California picnic, especially because I was a loser and didn't know about the last one (yeah, I know Cornflake, never again!) I think that a few of us have decided that we will probably have it at Griffith Park again because we can't think of anyplace else. Ernie also thought it might be cool to all see a movie in the evening (think 'leccy bill, think cinema, think string bean jean!) and I, for one, am all for it! So, I'm thinking Saturday November 10th. What do y'all think? I'm open for suggestions! ...and isn't another big Sinister picnic this weekend? In Dundee is it? Astrid said: "I know it sounds horrible, but I don�t want her to listen to B&S because she is such a bitch and never care about other people�s feelings." Well, rest easy little star, if she really is the unfeeling bitch you sense that she is, she won't *get it* anyway... But I know what you mean about not wanting to share your favorite things with people who for one, are stinky and for two, don't smell so nice... Hi Johan! Welcome back!!!!! Ken Chu, your last post was... well, I'll just say that ya dung good! But it took a turd for the worst by the end! ;) Where is Stacy Dahling these days? Nobdy has mentioned a visit from her lately! AND NOW FOR... SINISTER LOVIN'! Juju wrote: "just now, as in this past week, my whole world is coming together again. better than ever. closer, warmer, more loving, more exciting..i feel the bud poking through the ash after the fire." I am soooooo happy that Juju is happy!!! You're the grape, too, darling! ;) You must tell us all what your band is called so that we can go shopping for your album... and congratulations!!! Mr B. Ben Apps wrote: "Crushed - another true story How crushed would you be if your crush announced that she had been crushed by who she crushed but it wasn't you? This happened to me. boo hoo." Well, Ben, I have a similar story. Imagine if you were crushed and you didn't know who voted it on you, so you voted it on the boy (or girl if you will) that YOU have a crush on, only to be perplexed because it wasn't a match and then when your crush voted a crush on you it was weeks after you had voted one on them, so you got to thinking that your crush didn't like you but then you're relieved that they do, but this mystery admirer is still floating around and not making themselves known and their adoration goes unenjoyed....HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!!! Am I engaged to Ben Apps? Kara Jean wrote: "I'm beginning to think I have to move to England right away. I'm realizing what is really important to me." Ohhhhh, the Kara and Peter story is my favorite! I am really rootin' for you kids! Kara your thoughts were really beautiful to read! *****************COMMERCIAL BREAK************************ I just saw a Ragu spaghetti sauce commercial and they are playing T.Rex... I'm sure Marc Bolan is raviolling in his grave! The Robster Brennan wrote : "Laura and Vel are planning to release cupid. Good thing. Despite what that Murdoch chap said, there really isn't enough love right now and the poor blighter's been shut in that basement too long at the mercy of the spinisterines. Hope its not too late to save the World." Oh me oh my! If Cupid is being held captive, I'd say he's been working against me all this time! My dance card has never been so full! Don't let him out girls! Rachel Grapenut wrote: "I said in return "there's too much luv to go around these days." And suddenly the belle and sebastian song made sense! I had always thought of it as a somewhat annoying song against free love or something. It never quite make sense. But now it does!" Yeah, you know a lot of people say they love you and they don't really mean it. I mean, I always sign my notes "love" but that's because I mean it. I love that you took the time to read my note, so I'm just letting you know! but I don't tell people that I love them just to be cute. I can always tell when my mom misses me because when I talk to her on the phone she'll say "I love you" before we hang up. but when she's gettin' too much of "the Rachie" she doesn't say it. Astrid wrote an amusing post about being a mom and being a B&S fan and how her kids might rebel against her: "P.S Anyone ever thought of naming their kids after something B&S, or just with like a favourite caracter in a book or a writer or a person in a movie or something. Or is it just me being sick?" I've thought about naming a daughter Louise after Louise Brooks, but not because I want her to grow up to be a slutty lonely freeloading silent movie actress, but because Louise Brooks was beautiful and quite ahead of her time for being a feminist and being sexually liberated. I think that's cool. And as for rebelling against parents, it was fairly hard for me because I was raised on grate music. My way of rebelling was to *not* take drugs (dirty hippies!)I swear my mom loves Morrissey more than I do... But I cringe when she insists on listening to "The Last Of The Famous International Playboys" on repeat for two hours, or when she breaks into song, but in that mom's not-quite-right rhythym and it's "My Love Life". Oh, and don't get me started on The Cure or Erasure. Sheesh! *****Colin, don't read this part!******** By the way, brave Ryan from this here list has agreed to go to my parents' house with me this Sunday. It will prove to be a real circus! I hope you are up for the challenge Ry-ry! My younger brother left town last weekend and got married and is returning to get his things and move out of state with his new wife! And my grandmother who goes by the name "Badger" will be in attendance! You can all catch it on the JERRY show in a few days... *****Ryan, don't read this part!*********** Colin boy is sooooo adorable and I am sad that I didn't get to dance the night away with him in Nashville! You lucky lucky girl, Amy! Kirsten Kenyon posted about crayons and clue games and lost sketch books and dropping napkins with your phone number on peoples' tables and saying "take it, is for free." and gatorade. And I can't help but wonder how Kirsten can be so illustrious day in and day out... I hope that someday I'm sitting in a cafe with her and she can think of something interesting to write about how we have the same shoelaces, cos you know she's just THAT GOOD! There have been posts with your "dream team" band and a sort of fantasy football thing, and I think that is really grate! I'm not quite sure I understand the rules though. So I'll just shut up about that! Jenny Darling wrote: "speaking of..i bought a couple of japan records this past saturday. quality." Do you mean JAPAN Japan, as in the eighties band, or just records that happen to be from Japan? Cos if you mean the band I'll be excited and, well, actually if you just mean the country I'll still be pretty darn excited!! Jenny also said in her subject line that the role of her was being played by Parker Posey. Who would be cast as you in a movie? I think I'd like to be played by Milla Jovovich. But Caroline Rhea will actually be the one who gets the job;)! Katie wrote about her boyfriend: "to make a long story short he was real pissed at me and said something about not wanting to talk to me anymore because I was putting other things before our relationship. We've only been dating for three weeks." I hope you made him feel like a tool by telling him that you just found out that your dad has advanced colon cancer and that he shouldn't be so inflexible anyway! I'm glad that you're feeling a bit better, despite this, Kate! Ok, I promise I'm about to stop typing. I just want to say that I feel like a lucky girl and I hope this feeling lasts. You are all so brilliant. Kisses to Colin! And shout outs to my posse! You know who you are! ;) PUNK RAQUE! Love to you all, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 07:12:01 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:12:01 Subject: Sinister: Weird Al Message-ID: hello, I've been writting a lot these days. well, that is to say I've been posting a lot, but not writting a whole lot. I saw Ben Folds tonight. It was at this bowling alley and he played at inside the bar. It seemed to be a promotional thing, he played 5 or 6 songs and then Weird Al came on stage and sang an old ben folds five song. Then for the encore, Glen Philips from Toad the Wet Sprocket came out and sang another song. It was really great. I saw a girl there with 2 b&s pins along with a b&s shirt, whew I wasn't the only one. I'm not really a big fan of weird al, but it was cool to see him do this...I'm really tierd, I apologize for the really small letter. tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Doyster at xxx.nz Thu Oct 18 07:59:07 2001 From: Doyster at xxx.nz (David Clark.) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:59:07 +1300 Subject: Sinister: Red Bull as Criminal Defence? Message-ID: This came out of an Australian Newspaper the other week..... Teenager Robbed Store in 'Red Bull Delirium' >From the Sydney Morning Herald A teenager who drove 300 kilometres to rob a supermarket of $17,000 at knifepoint may have done so partly because he had drunk too much of the energy drink Red Bull, a judge said yesterday. The 17-year-old Darwin boy, who cannot be identified, was a conscientious high school student with two part-time jobs, who also found time for volunteer community work, the Northern Territory Supreme Court heard. Psychiatric and medical evidence suggested he might have been suffering caffeine intoxication when he drove from Darwin to Katherine on May 19 armed with a butterfly knife and carrying a balaclava to rob the supermarket. The boy was drinking up to 11 cans of Red Bull a day before the robbery - more than twice the caffeine needed to cause significant toxic effects, the court heard. Caffeine intoxication may have altered the boy's state "such that his judgment was impaired and he performed this robbery in the context of experiencing delirium", the psychiatrist's report said. A pre-sentence report also pointed to caffeine as a contributing factor. "It appears there was a blurring between fantasy and reality, perhaps induced by caffeine and chronic sleep deprivation," the report said. "Since committing this crime, [the boy] has weaned himself off the Red Bull and no longer has any caffeine. I've noticed the change in his ability to think rationally and he sleeps well." AAP So lets be careful out there, +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk Thu Oct 18 10:54:34 2001 From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Mikey) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:54:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Audiogalaxy Message-ID: <3BCEB4E9.14931.654507@localhost> Hi peeps, Sorry for breaking the 15 minute rule, but I'm in a lesson and I should be working, hope you all understand. Just wanted to say about audiogalaxy, when I installed it, it asked me if I wanted the dodgy spyware, to which I said "NO!", and there was no problem. I like Audiogalaxy, since it's the only file sharing thing that will run on my uni's computers. Take care, Love, Mikey x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.aurell at xxx.se Thu Oct 18 10:38:55 2001 From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:38:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: "...loving his world so much he still sings..." Message-ID: <003701c157b8$b742eca0$9a6097d4@brouhaha> ken is my brother. he did not live in a nice house with brothers and sisters and a mom and a dad. my dad adopted him from an orphanage in san francisco. he was also born in san francisco. he sung down the streets going to school because he loved music so much. ken loves music so much that he started a band named the posies. they let out a cd after they got started. unfortunately they broke up. still having the passion flow right through him. a year later he was picked by r.e.m. to do some backup singing and instrument playing. he once again started another band called the saltines. suddenly when ken was going down to australia to sing, he saw his face in the papers and pictures on street walls. then he noticed that he was coming back in the music world. if he were this famous now, maybe he would be really great in the future. loving his world so much he still sings. ken plans to get more well known around the world like the backstreet boys. he turned from a boy singing music down the street skipping to school to a star just waiting to show his stuff. i never thought that i would say this. but, i am glad to have a brother that loves music. (by kate stringfellow, age 10) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 20:11:54 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:11:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: you made me forget my dream team Message-ID: <000b01c15808$e26a8960$3a137bd5@aqlzosqt> i've just been exiled from my own house for 4 days while we got central heating put in. i had a stinking cold the whole time and was really looking forward to coming back and snuggling up to a radiator. but despite dust and general plumber-type shit everywhere, the bloody boiler isn't even working. but hey, it's autumn and i love this season of mists and mellow fruitfulness, although i think john keats was remarkable charitable considering the arrival of cold weather must have been a nightmare for consumptives. i've got really into this indie dream team idea and am currently installing my 16 in a fantasy indie mansion where we will discuss music, literature and fashion while reclining on fantasy indie sofas and eating fantasy crisps. joining me will be: 1. stuart murdoch (b&s) (special responsibility for sweeping floors) 2. pj harvey (solo) (girl) 3. nick drake (solo) (obsolete) 4. stuart david (looper/b&s) 5. jarvis cocker (pulp) 6. stuart staples (tindersticks) 7. thom yorke (radiohead) 8. michael stipe (rem) (foreign) 9. robert forster (go-betweens) (foreign) 10. kate rusby (solo) (girl) 11. joe pernice (pernice bros etc) (foreign) subs 1. anthony harding (hefner/solo) 2. morrissey (smiths/solo) 3. isabel campbell (b&s/gentle waves) (girl) 4. neil hannon (divine comedy) 5. liz fraser (cocteau twins) (girl) this sort of thing beats work any day. caleb mentioned rachels, the neo-classical combo as opposed to the sinister massive. i went to see them in brighton last year and very sweet they were too. slightly soporific, but none the worse for that. will porter, i'll come and work in your library any day. i had a great time when i worked in the library here, spending quiet moments drifting indie-ly along the ancient, rickety balcony which so appropriately housed the poetry collection. also it was hotbed of barely-suppressed sexuality (no, it really was) which is always a bonus. unfortunately i started to get stalked by a homeless guy who would come in and have imaginary conversations with his mother at the payphone before finding a chair and staring at me for hours on end. (echoes of hefner there.) i think we should have a sinister picnic in a library. i dreamed i was in york last night, and got lost trying to find my boyfriend's room in derwent college. not surprising, as he never lived there. strangely, i recall thinking very clearly in the dream: i really should try to meet up with the york massive while i'm here. hope you're all flattered :) luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 13:11:03 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:11:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Chuse your future Message-ID: Hello sinister-pies, Ooooo what a strange few days i've had, I tried to quit my university course on Tuesday because Accounting is just not really for me,so i went to see my University counselor and somehow,im still not quite sure, i was convinced that staying in Accountancy was such a good idea,i think he used magic. I think i actually stamped at one point: "I wanna quit the course" nicely and calmly "But have you considered the amazing career prospects of accountancy" "I wanna quit the course" slightly agitated and whiny "You know you can take a non-accredited degree and finish a year earlier" "I wanna quit the course" Stamping up and down "You know you can get into any Sociology or English career with an accountancy degree" "I wanna quit the course" pleading "But its already too late in the semester" "Bite me.Bite me. Bite me." running out the room Hmmmm anyway something like that,i was bewitched i tell you. Erm im weak. Then at night i went to see Troika with a few friends and met some lovely sinister type people too and i decided to take my anger at the counsellor out on my liver,it is bad and must be punished,9 tequila slammers and a Troika gig later i was callously deserted by my friends. Not callously or deserted either but that sounds better. Anyway i found myself in the company of a superfab young lady,another four or five tequila slammers later and we headed for our respective last trains. However what was not taken into consideration is what i shall suggestively title "the five steps rule" which means that after ten or more tequila shots walking five or more steps without falling is nigh on impossible,this makes walking for a train a lot more difficult but slightly more colourful,anyway the ten minute walk turned into a half hour stumble and the last train slowly headed away with absolutely no consideration for drunken buffoons who could only manage a few steps without falling flat on their face.Evil Railtrack bar-stewards!Actually i could have made the train because i could manage a whole twenty steps without falling but my superfab lady friend could only manage the pitiful five discussed earlier Luckily Mr. Troika seen us and let us stay at his place which was superfab of him actually because i so didn't fancy the prospects of staying up in Glasgow all night with a Hefner gig looming over my head the next evening. Then the next day me and my huge hangover went to see Hefner which should have been grate,but my liver didn't like being punished the previous day so it decided to make me feel evil all day. For some strange reason they played the Cathouse which is like goth heaven and i was expecting to walk in and see some sheep being sacrificed on a pentagram but maybe i was late or something because there wasn't one. Mr. Hayman's voice was dead too and there these neds who kept shouting and swearing and generally being neds,i think the pinnacle of their nedness was when one of them tried to out-sing Hayman and when politely asked to quieten down replied "Fuck off this is my song" Argh i want to kick neds' shins Yicketts are worse though,they're the cultural consequences of people like Eminem and Mr. Durst. I'd love to chain Yicketts together by padlocking their chains to each other and then watch them try to figure out why they keep falling,i think it would take about a year for them too realise: "Wow man we keep falling and we're like stuck too each other" "Hey this is,like,soooooo unrufus" "I wonder if my man Em has a song about this" Erm quite. Hmmmm tangents: Loneliness must be the single most crippling emotion anyone can experience.Its so much worse than rejection or sadness or general malaise because they can all be bounced back from and you can turn to friends,but if you're lonely you've no one to turn to or at least it seems that way and it just leaves you feeling so empty. I almost hugged a lamp post last night,i think i would have if id had more to drink but as it was i just settled for a few head-pats from my tall friend and the pearls of wisdom "It really can only get better" or something similar to that anyway. I am afraid of the dark ages, recently instead of taking notes at university i've been sitting writing random weird lines that come into my head from novels or films or even my warped imagination and my friend asked to borrow my notes because he missed a lecture and i gave them to him without thinking and all he got was a bunch of random weird lines that he couldn't understand at all,which was pretty funny for me. Ooooo dundee picnic is on Saturday,i need to make my way up all on my lonesome because Alan can't make it which is not too good actually because three hours on the train myself isn't much fun. Hmmm everyone can be super nice to me when i come up though and then i can punish my liver some more and that will be fab. Anyway must dash Love, hugs and a purple funky monkey, Danny xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zcraw96 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 18 14:58:57 2001 From: zcraw96 at xxx.uk (Christina McDermott) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:58:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The return of Miss Jenni-picnic Mummy extraordinaire Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011018135857.00872b00@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Mark E. Smith had a ghost in his house. I have a boy in mine. He appeared one day when I wasn't looking. Just hanging around Camden Tube Station looking all sweet and wet in a torrential downpour. I'd drunk too much Ribena one night and was feeling generous when he rang me. "I want to escape from this place. It's boring and all we do is race cars. Can I come and live with you?" And me being a kind soul remembered when he held my hand on Westminster bridge the other week when night and stars streaked the sky like paint and the way he looked in the shadow of fairy lights. He had promised me that we'd go on the London Eye one day at sunset and watch London come to life as though someone had waved a magic wand over it. I had put my head in his lap in the park looking at the Houses of Parliament and we had marveled over the way the moon and the sun worked together. We looked at the architecture and smiled and laughed as glossy green leaves dripped on my nose. So, me being a kind soul...I took pity on him. "Of course you can come and live with me. It'll be fun and we can watch good films like Together and play Transformers and have midnight feasts and I'll play you Tompaulin and you can play me the whole of 69 love songs in one go." And so I swept the boy up and took him home and wrapped him in a green stripey quilt. And for some unknown reason, he's decided to stay. Things of course are never entirely easy. We don't have much money and sooner or later he's going to find his own little room with a roof garden and fairy lights and an immense amount of liquers for me to drink. But for now it's fun. Maybe sometimes, you have to just sweep people up and take them away from places filled with too much dust and too many memories. Stand on a bridge and look at the stars and see how you feel then. Do silly things like have kung-fu fights in public or dare each other to speak with foreign accents on the tube but at the same time smile at each other and stick your tongues out and dance stupidly in clubs to the Moldy Peaches. Only then do you know who your friends are. * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * ** ** * * ** * ** * Anyway, before you all wonder who this imposter is who has dared come into the fray without hanging her head and shuffling her feet fresh from the nursery...well, it's me, Miss Photojenni, back again but this time in a new city with lots of new friends to have fun with. I have the delightful Mr. Danson-Hatcher living with me in my lovely Halls of Residence of doom at the moment. It's highly amusing if nothing else, if only for his propensity to drink mega-caffinated coffee and jump around my room trying to touch the ceiling when I'm out. I'm living in Camden now after finally bidding goodbye to the lovely delights of Manchester and going out to the big scary world of University. I'm now at University College London which is scary and posh but at the same time one of the most beautiful buildings I have ever seen. It's hidden from view when you're walking down Gower Street which is surrounded by elegant white Georgian buildings on both sides, but then you reach the main gates and look through to the main Quad...and you're just taken aback by this huge imposing dome. It's absolutely amazing and one of the reasons I decided to come here in the first place. Apart from the imposing nature of the place, it's lovely. The people I live with are highly amusing shown by one of my flatmate's propensity to get stoned and do dance routines which involve doing cartwheels and then crashing into hedges/gates/tables/whatever is there at the time. Me and Hatchback were at the Betsy Trotwood on Friday with the rest of the Sinister "massive" and *wowsers* it was so good! Ben Apps-you are such a little groover and shaker! Ben Apps used to go to my high school when we were wee and had the same clarinet teacher as me and everything and we only found out about this the other week when we went to the pub. That was very scary, but really lovely at the same time and invokes the tired old cliche "Oooh...it's a small world isn't it?" Anyway, the boy really is a little mover, seen in his getting-it-down to PJ and Duncan (Thank you sooo much for playing "Let's get ready to rumble!")and the Moldy Peaches. And he was wearing our old school tie too! Hooray! The lovely Mr Carsmile also played Spearmint's "Sweeping the Nation" which is a truly fantastic song...but can I just ask sir because this is a need to know basis, what is that song called that you played that involves the masterful lyrics "Went to the disco/bumper to bumper/wait a minute/where's me jumper?" Anyhoo...it was lovely meeting all the London Sinisterines, especially Mr Chu again who I had a lovely dance with and made the "rawk" sign at a number of times :-) It's good to see also that he appreciates the masterfulness of Camden Fish Bar after a good night out as much as I do. The night ended with a rounsing rendition of the "Playbus" song on the Nightbus home (with all the dialects in the right place and everything! *giggle*) and yummy chips. So, a good night was had by all I guess. Nice to see that so much money was made for the Red Cross. Definately worth it and I hope to be there again in six months time :-) Oh, and Mr. Carsmile...Jame's L is still slightly prominent on his hand...and mine just magically became a part of me. What pens were you lot using? Black magic voodoo ones or something? Sorry for not reporting back on the Manchester Picnic sooner as that was unfortunately the week I had to get everything together and sorted before I moved here. It was *ace* and pah! to all of you who said you were going to be there but weren't, because you don't know what you missed. Big Stu really is the biggest person I have seen. (To someone as wee as me he looks about seven foot. He is also apparently my son now which disturbs me that someone as wee as me can bear someone so big...also who's the father? Please don't tell me I have another love child on my hands!) Amy is lovely, Phillip is a sweetie, Ken Chu rawks the set and Danson-Hatcher is just...well...amusing, if only for his antics in snogging Mancunian bouncers. I ended up getting rather drunk and singing "The State I'm In" on a table *blush* which I blame entirely on Big Stu and his drinking games! Anyway, a wicked time was had by all...we must do it again sometime. Christmas good for anyone? Someone mentioned a London picnic. Could we have it at the Trocadero please? Me and Hatchback went there the other day and saw the bestest DDR machine in the world with a boy on it who was the bestest person at it I had ever seen. That boy had feet of fire! He was even better than my sister who was spending £10 a day during the summer on DDR! *whisper* Don't tell anyone, but he may even have been better at it than Mister Chu *hides* I think we should have it there and all get drunk and play DDR and go on the arcade machines. That would be wicked :-) People keep mentioning Fosca and how good they are. Damn right too....they're a foxy band, if only because my bestest friend in the whole wide world, the popkitten Kate Dornan is their new keyboardist and therefore you should all go and see them if only because of her. She looks like Trish out of Broadcast and has a propensity to dance behind her keyboard (which is truly amazing and fantastic...even if it did nearly fall on my head when I was round at her house the other day). She's just got back home from touring Sweden with them and told me lots of funny stories about people asking her for autographs and foxy wee Swedish indie boys coming backstage after gigs and giving her shot measurements they stole from behind the bar for her. If anybody from here is from Sweden and they saw Fosca, were they good? Did Kate dance as amusingly as she said she did? Has Dickon's singing improved? I always thought he looked like a younger Luke Haines personally...he just needs the wry humour and biting sarcasm and then he'll be there. Wowsers, this is a long post! But before I go...regarding the whole Will/Rachel/Chris mix tape battle...can I join too? My proper Christian name is Christina after all which is the feminine version of Christopher. Cay is just a shortened version of it...and I make a right foxy mix tape to dance around your room too. The popkitten says I have the strangest music taste in the world which is probably true...but hey, you'd get to hear my wonderful new band and if you're really good I may even include some sweeties :-) Love and Lollipops as always, Miss Jenni (Cay) xXx P.S. Whoever Ken Chu's current wife is at this moment in time-could you please remind him that this month's maintenance for Pika is late? Her grandma's getting fed up with paying for her Red Bull and DDR addiction and threatening to send her to her father so he can look after her. *hehehe* You've been warned :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 15:34:58 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:34:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: oh you're a mean old daddy, but I like you...fine Message-ID: <20011018143458.76639.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> I might say that I had delusions of eloquence. but watch. as I. don't. rumours of my length are greatly exaggerated. or. invented. my legendary girlfriend. they are the residents at the cafe this week. not an eye-ball mask in sight. mind you. but, for some reason, I thought of dan dare. after I thought of flash gordon. even though I had it wrong. I got that wrong. there were others got wrong. or got not attempted. some had to be contested due to the mild inaccuracy of some questions. or answers. jacques brel did sing in french though. the nepotistical nature of the...arrangements. not relatives. but related. [I'd guess.]. ensured our last place finish. which I was quite contented with. there are interesting things to be said about slint. I reckon. even if they're not about slint. troika. yes. the night before. and I was glad they played first. I enjoyed it. later were mercury tilt switch. after a few drinks something about them seemed to remind me of the barenaked ladies. I think they're canadian. and some people like them. I should imagine. but not my favourites. the bass player here given to similar movements. to one of them. perhaps. looks like I've judged without actually knowing my subject matter. but. after a few drinks. ... princess of power promises to post presently. I know he won't mind me calling him that. because he knows how much I love and respect him. or he should do. maybe I should write him a note. or buy him a drink there. ownership of the cafe? confirm. please. I read 'the adventures of tom sawyer' again last week. I wanted to quote more than one passage. somewhere. maybe not here. not here. I thought I could be in brno at the start of next year. and I think I could be. but I might as well be in berlin. I dono. lucksmiths. soon. fun. missing jonathan richman, I reckon. due to lack of affirmative action. in. ticket getting. someone said will oldham's playing the arches in november. I'll act. affirmatively. or something near to that. not so often do you assume there's a discussion of jacques brel's nationality only to try and join and then find you're being roped into doing some...'air guitar'. I didn't get roped. thankfully. I sloped. and flopped. and. coughed. I've been coughing. UGH, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.page at xxx.au Thu Oct 18 16:00:12 2001 From: a.page at xxx.au (a.page at xxx.au) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:00:12 +1000 Subject: Sinister: you're so beautiful it hurts to look at you Message-ID: <200110181500.BAA11385@cassius.its.unimelb.edu.au> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 16:31:39 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: apples, chocolates, & scarfs....what more does the world need? Message-ID: <20011018153139.76897.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> well i hope nobody gets mad at me, but i've nominated myself an honorary rachel. and henceforth, i shall be known called Rachel As Well. initials R.A.W. thats right. so i heard someone ranting about all the new words springing forth. well i think it's high time we had our own dialect. here's some words i've been using for a while now: going to/gonna = gawn probably = prolly didn't = dint your = yer to place emphasis on something you add a "holy" to the beginning and a "much" to the end of it. ex.: if someone is wearing a really long or cool scarf you say "holy scarf much!" or if they are eating all your food you say "holy eat much!". now i won't expect these words to be accepted right away, but if enough people start using them and other new words and expressions, together we can change the world! well prolly not, but it's worth a shot.... what are some expressions that are unique to you or yer friends? i'm dying to know. also, i was wondering what everyones favourite soundtrack composer is....besides b&s of course. mine is john barry. props if you know what movies he composed for, doubleplus props if you own any of his music. now i know the list is in the grips of a mixtape battle right now, which i whole-heartedly want to join in, but i want to propose a game......of epic proportions to be played out all over the world!.....well not quite. here's my idea, and i really hope someone likes it cause i've always wanted to do this. it's a translation game. basically i'll copy down all the lyrics to one B&S album (whichever one is agreed upon) and then i'll send by post to someone who speaks another language who will translated it directly into their language word for word, who will then send that translation to another and so on, and once we've translated it as many times as possible, we compare the beginning version with the end version. it's like a really long-winded game of telephone. but it will involve use of online foreign dictionaries. or ones from yer local library. i think we have enough different languages on the list to make it really interesting....plus it promotes group communication and participation and yes i know i sound like a kindergarten teacher. anyway, let me know.....i'm very excited about this idea.....and could someone please contact me about joining the rachels mixtape team? much love and undying walkman batteries ------R.A.W. aka caleb ben p.s. sorry about how long this post is. ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 15:45:43 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:45:43 Subject: Sinister: 1995-96 season Message-ID: HEllo pEople Well down to business then: Everybody knows that Britpop was rilly grate and rilly silly, and to commemorate those halcyon days of Chris Evans on the radio, and Graham Coxon and Jo Guest on the same piece of film, here's my dream team: *****PRESENTING***** Asm's Britpop XI: Alex James (Blur) Matthew Preist Jarvis Cocker Ian Broudie Rick Witter (Dodgy) (Pulp) (Lightning Seeds) (Shit 7) Louise Wenner Steve Lamacq Jo Whiley Gaz Coombes (Sleeper) (Radio1) (Radio1) (Supergrass) Justine Frishman Damon Albarn (Elastica) (Blur) The old Evening Session combo in the central midfield, feeding the ultimate Britpop couple is what makes this team great. I was gonna put Matthew Preist as a centre-back, but then realised that his heading ability would be severely diminished due to the fact that he wears that Pork Pie all the time. But there you go: 1995/96: Savour the moment. Aaaaaah. In other news, I was on the bus today and there was a girl who looked just like Katie Holmes, holding hands with a boy who looked just like Jarvis Cocker, and I marvelled at the perfection of this couple. That's all I can think of at the moment. Saw Ben & Jason, that north London 8-piece band, in York the other day. They were quite good. "love", Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Thu Oct 18 17:02:07 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:02:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: errata Message-ID: 1. > From: Stephen Hewitt > Sent: 15 October 2001 14:45 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: re:porting bach also in attendance on friday were Mark Hester and Arantxa-cha-cha (and considering i got a taxi with her i really should have remembered that). 2. > From: Apps Ben (Mr B) > Sent: 17 October 2001 15:28 > To: 'sinister at missprint.org' > Subject: Sinister: in a town so small there's no escaping you the Ant & Dec song is entitled "let's get ready to r_h_umble" 3. > From: Laura Llew > Sent: 15 October 2001 22:57 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: They told EE Cummings to use capital letters. Would > he? no! Little n. Little o. you've used that subject line before dear, i'm sure ;) 4. From: Christina McDermott > Sent: 18 October 2001 14:59 > To: sinister at missprint.org > Subject: Sinister: The return of Miss Jenni-picnic Mummy > extraordinaire The song containing the lines mentioned was "Where's me Jumper?" by Sultans of Ping FC, and it makes me feel very old that you didn't know that, you'll be claiming not to know who The Family Cat are next... You know it's at this time of year that i like to go back and read the rules of the list, just in case i've missed anything. You can too, they're here: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html#rules My dream team is dead easy, cos they're here: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/FC-SlotJockey.html xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 16:54:15 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:54:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: What a night! Message-ID: <3BCEFB26.26935790@netopia.com> Saw Bjork last night in concert and can say this has been an awseome year for concerts! The top performances so far: 1.)Belle and Sebastian-The Warfield 2.)Bjork-Paramount Theatre 3.)Air-The Warfield 3.)Madonna-Oakland Coliseum (Sorry but it was good!) 4.)Nelly Furtado-Bimbos 5.)Moby-Shoreline I love music! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Thu Oct 18 19:16:34 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:16:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: if I was a bird.... Message-ID: <002101c15801$05c51c20$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> posting again but I just read our friend caleb ben's (nowadays aka R.A.W.) post about a translation game. What a holy idea much! (umm, did I get that right?) And interesting, and quite a challenge as well. If everyone follows the rules (what rules?) I reckon it could turn out quite hilarious in the end. I assume you're not allowed to use the actual lyrics as help? there's been a few swedish words going round. one of them is the word "tok" (meaning "fool" but in this case better translated as "mad") People have said (and say) it about everything: madfast, madfunny, madgood, madhigh.... I read in a magazine today, 30 things we never want to hear again....and "mad_____" was one of then. So for those of us who try to avoid "mad" we can always use "monkey" instead, monkeygood. one first thing you should all start using (and I'm almost sure the swedish sinisters will agree with me) is the great phrase "Grab a fike" = having a cup of coffee or tea and perhaps something eatable to go with it, like biscuits, buns, cookies, fruit etc. Let's not meet for a cup of coffee in the future, Let's grab a fike instead! one second thing is "shit the same". It has a "never mind" or "forget it, it's not important" kind of meaning. this is turning into a swedish new dictionary hehe. pretto = pretentious that's love = used by my friend mostly for justifying silly things and if everyone UNDER 18 can turn their heads away NOW.... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * kuka ur ("cock out"? not talking about birds here) = when something has gone wrong or is bad or weird or whatever, it has cocked out. I didn't come up with it! Very useful expression, though not recommended to be used among family and old people. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * you may ALL read again.... That yer and gawn thing sounds like scottish to me. Now that's a dialect I adore. More scottish to the people! Read 'Filth' by Irvine Welsh merely for the fine accent and I even read out loud from it once in a while. I must've sounded so silly, but shit the same heeh. The book was great though, but very filthy, naturally. And I cried at the end, it was so sad I couldn't help it. The main character was a bastard throughout the whole book but still in the end you had to feel sorry for him. I always cry at endings... -AN Monchichi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 19:20:59 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:20:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I thought, this time, my subject line will be dead short, snappy, get to the point, sum up things in a concise and intelligent manner while being still enjoyable and informative, not just garbled rubbish and what I eventually came up with was this..."abcz" I felt it really said everything. Message-ID: <20011018183113.DSIQ710.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.98.79]> Indie 11: Kurt Wagner (lambchop (OK, so not really "indie") Ben Folds Mr E Jonathan Donahue Stuart Braithwaite (Ben Folds Five) (Eels) (Mercury Rev) (Mogwai) Jack White Nina Persson Emiliana Torrini Richard Ashcroft (White Stripes) (Cardigans, A Camp) (solo) (Verve) Jarvis Cocker Aphex Twin (Pulp) (Again, not really indie) I think my team would be pretty rubbish, y'know. I played in a 5-a-side competition at school a few weeks ago and we lost 10-1. Admittedly, we made the main qualification for membership that you didn't know the Offside Rule and were well known to be absolute bollocks at anything involving sport. we wanted to call our team "3 geeks, 1 Fat Boy and an Indian" but we weren't allowed even though everyone in the team thought it was Ok. it was unfair, considering someone else got "4 Jews and a Wannabe". I (also) think indie should be spelt with little letters. It's not like a god we worship (Or is it?) Can someone tell me what 'vintage' clothing is? I realised I had no idea the other day and all through the indiekid debate (NO, don't even THINK about starting that again) I read your posts without any idea what you were talking about when you mentioned it. I _need_ this knowledge or I will utterly lose touch with popular culture. I founded a religion the other day. It hasn't got a name yet but I'm presently writing the holy book during Chemistry lessons. The main thing in it is my new hat, it's cordurory and one of those bucket hats. It's the sacred object, I'm the high priest who is given visions and wisdom by the hat and my congregation is presntly one. It will grow, I assure you! I did all this after my attempt to become Pope failed when I realised that I would have to become a priest and more importantly, a Roman Catholic. Maybe I could be the first non-Catholic Pope. Or just decide to be the Pope, irrelevant of all that voting Cardinals rubbish. After all, We have to get the church out of this all-male, all-catholic rut, don't we? Our (my family's) G.P.(s) are a pair of identical twins so you never know which one you're seeing. Just to make it more surreal, they are called Dr. A Meeson and Dr. B Meeson. It's like something from a sitcom. Whadda we want? LONDON PICNIC! Whenda we wannit? SOON! Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shrimpmagnet at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 21:50:31 2001 From: shrimpmagnet at xxx.com (Kate Keenan) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:50:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: "So twee they're almost fey!" Message-ID: Hello Sinister! I'm a new person who was flinging myself against things in the frustration of being in the nursery so long and then, finally finding the door left open one fine day, suddely became tongue-tied and toddled back to play with my see n' say. So I've been lurking. And of course the more fantastic you all are, and the longer I wait, the more the pressure builds... I want to make my debut in stunning array but I'n never quite up to it. So I'm going to stop being so silly and just start with not a bang but a whimper. Or at least a bashful mumble. I was reading Caleb Ben Moore's (A.K.A.R.A.W.) post about personal slang and thought it only fitting to ask b&s fans (Scottish at heart) if anyone else indulges in the phrase, "What am I, scotch mist?" used in much the same circumstances as chopped liver might be. It was a great favorite of my dad's. Whenever I pull that one out, my Canadian friends' eyes water with what I (like to) think is bemused glee. My Italian-Canadian too-cool-for-even-indie friend has started to bandy it about in his circles and it is apparently causing quite a stir... So there you have it. Sorry to barge in like that without a more formal introduction but if I may say, it feels like I've known you all my lives. Much Love, Kate p.s. I humbly offer my alliterative super-powers as Kate Keenan - not to encroach on the initial territory of the flooringly clever and cool (Klever and Kool? (Oh why don't I just give up, I'll never reach such heights!)) Kristen Kenyon. p.p.s. The suject line is my friend Mark's slogan for Belle and Sebastian. He uses it slightly condescendingly but I think it's quite A-OK. p.p.s. upon proof-reading, I should clarify, I'm not a "new person" in the sense of having spontaneously materialized from the ether moments ago, merely new to sinister. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Thu Oct 18 22:22:49 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i wish that something wouldn't happen Message-ID: <20011018212249.38913.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> at the sandwich shop this afternoon i ordered a sandwich. tuna, to be precise. the man behind the counter, who was forced to cease his conversation with the man with a chin-goiter the size of my fist, began its preparation. i like this man, for once he told me the story behind his "iconco destruction pass," which allowed him inside-access to the million square foot building being leveled a block away. i was suitably impressed, and changed my mind about stealing the pass when his back was turned. as he fixed my lunch, he asked a few questions. would you like any salad? candy? lingerie? my lip curled. sick. he's twice my age and all i want is my bloody sandwich. furthermore, i look about 10 years old today, with my hair sticking straight out in 1 inch long pigtails above my ears, matched by a column of hair shooting straight up on top of my head. certainly not anyone's idea of attractive. what can you do. we might as well give up right now. good thing we're bombing the poorest country in the world. it would be unamerican of us not to. good thing we're looking for a puppet government to install. where would democracy be without us. a wise sinisteree has advised me to the presence of Anthrax's statement on anthrax. turns out our heavy metal heroes aren't so hardcore after all. --kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn at xxx.com Fri Oct 19 01:54:06 2001 From: Calumn at xxx.com (Calumn) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:54:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Johan Sebastian Bachman Turner Overdrive In-Reply-To: <200110181531.QAA14232@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000e01c15838$8e8888d0$0f757ad5@CSLaptopL122> Hello! Nothing of interest in here, I'd get to that delete key quick! It's getting harder to think up subject headings here, this is why I don't post as often as I should. I'm even harboring a suspicion that I've used that one before. I'm on a train. I *can't* check the archives. (but I have a collection of digests, and I'm not afraid to use them!) Anyway, as promised (threatened) by sinister's own Mr. Quiff (should there be a rule regarding minimum sentence length imposed on Mr. Richard. Gill. And. Ers. ?) I 'm posting once again. With lots of brackets (I like them, they turn me on) Quite a lot's happened since I last posted (digest #460!! Has it really been that long?) so bear with me, and I'll try to give you the highlights, by (ab)using the long-held sinister tradition of SUBJECT HEADINGS. PICNICS Well, there was a summer, wasn't there? Loads and loads of people came to visit me in GLASGOW (they may not have arrived for me *exclusively*, except for Ken, who was looking to pick up a couple of tips for pulling the ladies. And Lady wasps, apparently!) I visited EDINBURGH, too - there I am, in the right of the picture. Fisticuffs were averted at the last minute. Sorry. DUNDEE next. A meeting with a famous dog, and The Girl. I Can't wait, It'll be GRATE! PUBS There have been rather more of these than there should have been. Just ask my bank manager - don't tell him you've seen me, OK? I met more people that probably thought I was a bit scary. I am. WhoooHoooHooo! WEDDING BELLES My Car smiled. So did everyone else. Ailsa wore White. Flattering. Ally wore Red(Dress). Flirting. I wore Green(Hunting). Flatulent. Someone else didn't wear pants. I'm not telling who *she* was. GIGALICIOUS Joan of Arse - Amazing. Dudley Corp - Astounding. Time is fleet~ whoopsie. Almost sang a verboten song there. Mr. Joss has to be the hardest working drummer in showbiz. I managed to get his drumsticks, then give them away. Did the Belles play? I can't remember. I saw Camera Obscura play in a church hall, although I almost saw an "excellent" guitar recital instead. Looking forward to the Lucksmiths in Glasgow. That'll be Blinding. VISITING DIGNITARIES, in no particular order. It was really nice to finally meet: Oztralian. With a talent for Drinking and Singing and Playing Guitar. And Falling Over. American. With a talent for Carwashoke and Moaning. Greek. With a talent for Hugs and JoJo possession. American *and* Greek (!) With a talent for Art, Writing and Dancing. HONORABLE MENTIONS, amphetabetically. That bit where I fire off a few quick cryptic messages. Skip this bit if your name's not here! (I wouldn't worry about it too much even if it is!) Ally96 - Daphne & Celeste. It's been too long. Breams - AhludjeyaCnt. Or something. Dahling - I have My Ring safe and sound in my "special things" drawer. GHD - Still out there? Miss you, man. KenDobber - Can you explain the dealer button to me, please? PF - Not Whales. Wails. I stayed Here, she went There. What was it you said about love again? Pookie - I promised I would, and I haven't - I will. I Promise. ;-) Vel - More Turkish delight, please. Nose sugar sounds like drugs. But isn't. I'm still preparing the reply present. And If I've forgotten anyone... Please remind me! Better stop before I get a digest all to myself ;-) YOU FORGOT A BIT Oh, B&S content? Well, I've heard the maths teachers song, Marks and Angles. I was forced to, honest! And very nice it is too. That do? YES, THANK YOU - FINISH UP NOW See you in #Sinsiter. Or, indeed, #sinister ;-) Love and chocolate buttons! Cal. xxxx Sinister Hotel Management, in the style of Basil Fawlty. PS - http://www.btinternet.com/~calumn/images/cdcover.jpg - anyone else think I look like John Mayall? (Far Left) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janehavoc at xxx.net Fri Oct 19 06:15:29 2001 From: janehavoc at xxx.net (sweet adeline) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:15:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Me and the Major... Message-ID: <3BCFB6F1.649FB474@earthlink.net> Hello, This is obviously my first post, and it's been a long and harrowing day, so this may be a bit disjointed. I'm fairly new to the world of B&S, but they've become somewhat familiar companions during my daily train rides in and out of downtown Chicago. Certain songs are now associated with particular landmarks, like Simple Things with the graffiti at the edge of an industrially destroyed field that says "picture us somewhere else". I always look for that, but when I try and explain it to anyone, they just look at me as though I'd asked them which brand of diapers they find most absorbent. But onward. I'm another bookshop girl, relegated to the children's section, and most of my workdays are a blur of escalators and credit cards. It would be somewhat bleak except for beautiful scenery and loveable, snide coworkers. It seems like all of you enjoy anecdotes, and it's been fun reading all around. Here's one of mine for your reading (dis) pleasure. Chicago, like any city, is full of characters, some incredibly fun, some tragic, some that are frightening beyond description. Once, on a night that i was working quite late, I left work and headed for Walgreens, when I ran across a man dressed as Jesus, complete with a cross slung over one shoulder that looked as though it were nailed together with love. I followed him inside, and decided to see what his drugstore needs were. I caught up with him in the snack aisle, selecting a package of hostess cupcakes, and the whole thing was somehow a poem in and of itself: the cross, the cupcakes, and the deliberately deadpan faces of the cashiers and customers. I guess he felt he was fulfilling his purpose in roaming the streets in his garb, and any hint of absurdity had the importance of a paper scrap scuttling by his feet. Well, I am being assaulted with pitiful looks by my hungry significant other, so I suppose I should go away again. B. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Fri Oct 19 08:30:27 2001 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:30:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles Halloween Party Invite 10.27 References: <000b01c15808$e26a8960$3a137bd5@aqlzosqt> Message-ID: <3BCFD693.70CCCC6C@pacbell.net> Saturday, October 27, 2001 (5PM) i'm having a party at my house. everyone sinister is invited and so is your mother so invite her too and any your own friends should come too. costumes are required since its a halloween party too. if you don't have one, that's okay, just come anyways. three really good bands will be playing, they're not really known though... War And Tea, Lian Light and Throwin Bows. i hope this isn't spam or anything. i DJ the music before and inbetween sets and i promise to play b&s or any other requests you have. so please come. it'll be mad fun. i had one of these like two years ago and that one went spectacularly! this could be a sinister meet if you like too :) quick notes: costumes pretty please. booze yes ma'am. snacks yes sir. food bring it. free for all. everyone is invited. http://www.originalfools.com/groophug/halloween2.html mail me back for questions. thanks, daniel ryder +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Fri Oct 19 11:33:32 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:33:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Return of the Mac Message-ID: Oh, hello again It's raining outside, my toes are soaking, so I thought I'd write to you. It's been a while since I've had anything to say. I thought I'd find out some stuff about Belle and Sebastian and astonish you with it. So I watched some telly. We love 1997 didn't mention Belle and Sebastian at all. It started me thinking that in history books of the future, the sort you'd have beamed directly into your brain, most of the things that I think are important wouldn't make it in there at all. They wouldn't have a chance. People would be having their retro nineties parties and dressing up as H from Steps not Stuart Murdoch. And I decided that in a few years time when everyone's listening to their space music and eating moon-toast, sinister might be the only thing from my version of the world that's left. Then I thought I'd write to you. Because Sinister�s a repository for our thoughts, isn�t it? It�s as close as we can get to carving things in stone these days. We carve things into electromagnetic bleeps instead. I remember reading somewhere, not long ago, about an ancient philosopher, and how he hadn�t written anything down but historians had still found out all about him and what he thought. The reason they knew, after his teachings had been lost for hundreds of years, was that someone the philosopher knew had kept a diary, and in this diary were all sorts of things about the philosopher and all of his ideas, along with shopping lists and moans about his wife. But the reason archaeologists had found this diary at all, with all its fascinating stories, was because the man had CHISELLED IT INTO HIS BEDROOM WALL, and the archaeologists had found the wall. It took that much. I wonder how solid this Sinister wall of ours is. I started my new job recently. It's not bad, I thought it would be scary but it isn't. I share my office with someone called Paul and he told me he'd started getting strange stalker-like emails from someone he didn't know. She thought he was a poet, and kept telling him how she really liked the poem he'd written on a web-site. I suggested that maybe she'd got the wrong address and asked what his was. "It's foxinthesnow at something.com" "Oh. Fox in the snow? That's a good name." "Yeah, it's a song by a band called Belle and Sebastian." "Oh, I see." Then I told him how I knew that already. I decided that I was going to like Paul. Thing is, there's a good chance his stalker's one of YOU. You freaks! Leave him alone. Someone (sorry I can't remember who) sent in a story about a bloke who drank too much Red Bull. It reminds me of a court case involving a bewhiskered old colonel. The colonel was in the dock for assaulting his secretary. He�d never laid a finger on anyone before, unless you counted all the fuzzy-wuzzys he�d had up the Khyber, and since his moustaches had begun to droop and his military bearings were rusting up a bit he�d become a mellow old fellow. So what had happened? It turned out, as the case unfolded, that with all those long mornings and long afternoons of his retirement, and after they�d killed off Arthur Fowler in Eastenders, the colonel had begun to drink increasing amounts of tea. The usual two or three cups a day weren�t enough anymore, and by the time of the assault he was drinking fifty litres a day. That day the secretary hadn�t had his tea ready for him when he asked � maybe she was trying to get him to give it up � and he lost it, his mind was transported back to his time out East, and he attacked the secretary like she was a native weeing up against the tent. In the end he was acquitted, the official reason was that he had been suffering delusions as a result of his tea addiction. My A to Z reading list isn�t going as well as could be hoped, I�m only up to D, and all the authors I know whose names begin with D, Dickens, Dosdoevsky, etc., write really long books so it�ll take me ages to get to E. Part of the problem is that some letters, like J and M, are going to be really exciting, but there�ll be a lot of other letters to get through before I get to Martine McCutcheon�s autobiography. God, this was long, wasn't it? Sorry if you've fallen asleep. I should be working anyway. bye Stout Robin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Fri Oct 19 14:48:23 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:48:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Wedding Belles Message-ID: <004e01c158a4$bacc0c20$1da3ecd8@default> So, *finally* my life has some Belle and Sebastian style content to it...Thankfully it hasn't been filled with whatever they do fill hotdogs with (veggie ones please) 'til or since the aforesaid B&S content...but it's been a hoot and a holler for the first time in, well, awhile... So, two of my very best friends in the world got married in what has to be the most fun and freaky wedding ceremony that I've ever had the pleasure to witness and take part in. My husband was in the ceremony too, so that was 14.9 kinds of cool. To give you a sense of the freakyness: the bride was actually *disappointed* when I didn't wear my Strawberry Switchblade costume and wore the "too normal" 18th c. style taffeta and velvet goth dress instead. A 5 year old said he'd be their ringbearer if , and only if, he could be dressed as "rat boy". The flower "girl" was a man in his late 30s dressed in a gold sequined Mexican wrestler outfit, replete with pvc horns. First B&S moment: My friends from Seattle (the ones we *were* going to visit and see the show with...snif!) brought me an ampersand shirt! I'd say that rawks like Slayer, but really it rawks like Belle and Sebastian doing a Slayer song. The Venn Diagram between the bride's musical taste and my own is quite large in the middle, so the dj'd music chosen by the couple is the best mix of music I'm ever likely to hear outside my own home... 2nd B&S moment: The strains of "Johnathan David" begin ...and the wedding couple and aforesaid Seattle pal all join me (no coercing! I feel so blessed!) to do the various kinds of Charlie Brown kids' dances. The bride and I did the dance of the kid who looks like Frankenstein's monster, with his arms out in front of him, the Groom was Snoopy, and Seattle pal was the 'knees turned in, hands put out at right angles to the body' kid who does the kind of angular charleston. Then , the song segued into Japan's "Quiet Life", Cocteau Twins' "BlueBellKnoll", and Laibach's "Maggie May" wherein we all formed a giant freak conga line. Life is good, my friends, GOOD!! Alright...off to bask in the thought that marriage is really amazing, when you marry your freak partner in crime... Congrats to Sinister couples everywhere! Lisa from Texas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u07lec at xxx.uk Fri Oct 19 15:44:44 2001 From: u07lec at xxx.uk (Lynsey Callaghan) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:44:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dundee meet-up Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011019153757.00a47ec0@mailms.ugrad.abdn.ac.uk> A little reminder to all of you coming to the ***Dundee picnic***** We're going to meet at 2pm tomorrow (Saturday) in the train station in Dundee. There's been a slight change of plan, as none of the pubs in Dundee will let dogs in, even lovely dogs like Belle (boo hiss), so the lovely Rachel Sunnyset has offered the opportunity of an indoor picnic at her palace, followed by a trip to the pub(s). So, bring a packed lunch and any alcohol, ribena, etc with you, and we'll just have to see what happens. If you get lost at any point, or are going to arrive later, call my mobile 07786674285 and I'll try to help you!! See you all tomorrow, lyns xox ------------ Lynsey Callaghan u07lec at abdn.ac.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Fri Oct 19 18:55:08 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:55:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Blair's too much guv Message-ID: hi!, pez here contrary to popular belief the chrises mix tape challenge team still exists. it now consists of Chris Pez (me) and Cay Cola-Cubes [we're named after sweeties, see?] so we'd like an entry form please, or just your mail addy, ken, so we can send you our super spiffing tape of fabulousness (wasn't he one of the family ness?) erm... that seems to be all love n' mixtapes Pez* www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 19 21:36:20 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:36:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: How Many Records Does a Man Need? Message-ID: <00fe01c158dd$e37e3380$4462253e@itjfvkli> Philip Boucher wrote: >I think its horrid to be honest, oh well. He was referring to this: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OM55.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg I think it's gorgeous, to be honest. I think it's the best B&S sleeve of the lot. The one on the right is the most gorgeous person ever to appear on a B&S cover, and the one on the left comes a pretty close second. I have an uncontollable urge to ruffle both of their heads, first one and then the other. The one not being ruffled at the time will stick their nose in, impatient for their turn at ruffling. I can think of no greater pleasure. For either of them. Except for the return of Robin Stout. Welcome back. Just moments before I read Robin's post, I finished CRIME AND PUNISHMENT by FYODOR DOSTOEVSKY. Weighing in at a hefty 600 pages, it took quite a bit of getting through. But if I can do it, Robin certainly can. I particularly enjoyed reading it while I was queuing up outside a police station the other day. I listened to Led Zep's BRON-YR-AUR earlier on, I almost expected PF to start bellowing hoarsely over the top, such is its loveliness. I like DOWN BY THE SEASIDE too. It sounds just like being by the seaside. In fact, it was probably the most DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS ON THE TIN record of all time until KYLIE came along with her surgical strike catchiness. I haven't thought of an indie football team. Because it's silly. Marvin Gaye once claimed he could 'do it' all the way through his classic shag album LET'S GET IT ON. He'd have trouble now it's a 2 CD 'deluxe edition' - (70.29) (79.10). I must go because Sli-Muck superstar FLUBBER is on the telly. There's a Thai film about lady-boy volleyball or something. I'll Report Back more thoroughly when I know more. it's showing in the Gay and Lesbian Film Festival. See you there? Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Sat Oct 20 02:18:10 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (aale002 at xxx.nz) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:18:10 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: Reeeeeelly obscure indie dream team..... Message-ID: <1003627090.3bd22252320b6@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> OK, after some poking and prodding (;-}) by Kirsten Kenyon on #sinister yesterday, I've decided to post my indie dream team composed entirely of New Zealand musicians.....OK, here goes: 1. Chris Knox(everything) (solo/Tall Dwarfs) 2. Shayne Carter(everything) (Double Happys/Straitjacket Fits/Dimmer) 3. Andrew Brough(guitar/vocals) (Straitjacket Fits/Bike) 4. Kirsty(vocals) (Goldenhorse) 5. Ben(guitar) (Bressa Creeting Cake/Goldenhorse) 6. Dave Dobbyn(guitar/vocals/piano) (Th' Dudes/solo) 7. Tim Finn(guitar/vocals) (Split Enz/Crowded House/Finn/solo) 8. Luke Casey(drums) (Eye TV/the Relaxomatic Project) 9. Nathan Haines(sax) (solo)kinda indie 10. Floss(bass/vocals) (Love's Ugly Children) 11. Boogah(vocals/guitar) (HLAH) Subs 12. Bruno Lawrence(actor/everything) (BLERTA)deceased 13. Phil Judd(everything) (Split Enz/ENZSO) 14. Milan(guitar/vocals) (Pluto) 15. Rodney(guitar/vocals) (Good Shirt) 16. Jeremy(guitar/vocals) (Garageland) 17. Tiki(guitar/vocals) (Salmonella Dub)not very indie, but an ace player Prizes for those that _have_ heard of these people. ;-} You are obviously true indie legends, just like my main man Kirsten. ;-} On to other news....well, I am no longer an Official Book Burglar Catcher at the library. ;-/ Our job officially ended two weeks ago-but on the upside, we get a nice new Book Returns Room with a huuuuuuuuggggeeee window looking out onto ground level Albert Street-so I get people perving at me all hours of the day and night. Just like working in a cafe, really. The Sinister Pcnic in a Library thing sounds like just my cup of Earl Grey. How many Sinisterenes are there in Auckland? I could smuggle us all in here on a Saturday afternoon, then we could wander down to Pizza Pizza and get really sloshed....oh, wait a minute, I do that on my own, anyways....;-} Ummm. I wish my name was Will. All the Andre's on the list, rise up with me now! They can take our dignity with stupid girly-sounding names, but they can never take our FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM......... I saw this girl yesterday, and...wow. I've seen her 'round before, like when I worked as an Official Book Burglar Catcher on the front desk, and every time she's caught my eye. Wears lots of pink, which I something I'd usually avoid, but she has dark hair and dark eyes, so it works. Plus, every time I see her, we just seem to stare at each other until something else distracts us, then the moment is well and truely gone. I know I should go up and say something, but- you know how there are some people that just melt you? She's like that for me. Yesterday, she was standing next to the Short Loans counter when I went up to drop a book in from the BR room and, I had to walk right towards her to return the book. We just sort of stared at each other as I walked towards her, then I (being an irredemable idiot) paniced and looked down. I placed the book on the counter, muttered something to the counterperson, then turned and...well, not quite _ran_ away, but close. And yesterday was the last day of lectures, so I may get a chance like that again. Stupid, stupid Cunning Andre. On that note, I'm off to do more nothing. Right-o, that's me, Cunning Andre +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ruvi at xxx.com Sat Oct 20 02:46:21 2001 From: ruvi at xxx.com (Ruvi Simmons) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:46:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Birthday boys don't remember. Message-ID: <004a01c15909$07970500$6700000a@btinternet.com> Hello. It's been a while. It's been three months, in fact, since I last found myself sitting between the right angles of my two desks in the early hours of the morning, writing to strangers. I like strangers, probably more than I like the people I know. Which probably means I like myself. Or the promise of unknowns. I found out a few things during the three months I spent teaching English in China. First was that it was possible to speak for several uninterrupted hours on the rudiments of English grammar. Second was that comedians who die on stage to silent audiences persevere because of the ongoing hope for improvement. Third was that people are silly and sad the world over. I knew that one before. In fact, I'm making it all up as I go along, but that isn't an argument not to trust everything you read. It isn't an argument for anything. I still haven't learnt how to be entertaining, I'm afraid. Although I managed to polish up my karoake versions of Send in the Clowns and Puff the Magic Dragon. That, however, is most decidedly not entertainment. There is a touch of surrealism to finding myself in such a familiar scenario. It's the same surprise as when, earlier today, on one of the rare occasions I saw some television, I passively absorbed an advert for Have I Got News For You. They were all there: Angus Deyton, Ian Hislop and Paul Merton, smugly ribbing one another under the kind auspices of Auntie, to the delight of another TV centre audience. The fact that they were still alive was quite a shock. They had been dead to me for so long. But why shouldn't they be? And if they were going to be anywhere, wouldn't they be on television, doing what they always do? And why should my desk be anywhere other than where it has been ever since I bought it from a Bermondsey antiques dealer who sat behind his faux-Chippendale desk puffing Mayfair fags like the Sheik of Tower Bridge? For that matter, why should I be anywhere other than in front of my desk, where I've been so many times before. If I was a betting man, my current position would be odds-on favourite against the other possibilities. Since returning to England, I and some friends have started an arts magazine. That is the real reason I am writing. The preceeding paragraphs were just sweetening preamble. If anyone reading this has any poetry/stories/comments in whose quality they believe, we are welcoming contributions. We have no agenda except that the work must be sincere and serious. We are interested in acting positively against current-day trends of cynicism and media/self-obsession in art and literature. In spite of what I said earlier, that's entertainment, folks. As W.H. Auden put it, don't the darlings have cold hearts? We want to warm them. If anyone is interested, contact me. Tomorrow, art. Today, bed. In between, dreams. Goodnight. Ruvi. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Sat Oct 20 11:34:31 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 11:34:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: stainless steel providers In-Reply-To: <172193000@spray.se> Message-ID: Hello, This is my first ever post, I'm just out of the nursery, I hope you all play friendly. actually, that's not true, but I mail so rarely I could probably get away with claiming to be a newbie every time, although why I'd want to I'm not sure. I went to see Tindersticks the week before last. They had loads of people playing violins and other string instruments and stuff with them, and while it was all very impressive technically I found myself thinking I'd prefer seeing the Sticks on their own or maybe just with a very small string section - as was all the arrangements and stuff were a bit overly complicated and fussy and so on. Which reminds me of "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant". I remember hearing that whereas on earlier B&S records they got in music school mates of Sarah and Isobel to provide string accompaniment, but for this they paid actual professional musicians actual professional amounts of money to come and do it. And this is always presented as a step up in the world. But I'm not convinced. The strings and stuff on FYHCYWLAP are again just a bit too mannered and get in the way of direct enjoyment of the music. At times. so I say gifted amateurs all the way, let the professionals shag off back to the London Philharmonic. Now it's time for some quoted comment: on 12/10/01 21:14, caleb ben moore at opaline_moon at yahoo.com wrote: > and then the person said the kicker: "i've > made a conscious decision NOT to join the list. > we around here feel it's SO pubescent." They're an odd bunch, the Jeepster boarders (and it's actually changed its name to Bowlie and been cut loose from Jeepster, but everyone still calls it Jeepster). The whole thing is more chat oriented which is great for people like me who like issuing chatty post, so I post there much more than I do here. I remember once mentioning Sinister, assuming that most people there would also be on here, but no, as you say, lots of people said "Ewww, Sinister, we don't like that". The thing that decided me that the Jeepster board is basically RUBBISH and Sinister is KEWL was when I went to Glasgow to see B&S. There were simultaneous Jeepster and Sinister get togethers, of which the Sinister picnic had a million attendees, and the Jeepster one had five. on 18/10/01 19:20, Joe Vester at machiavellian_llama at mac.com wrote (listing his indie dream time): > Kurt Wagner > (lambchop (OK, so not really "indie") I thought this was an indie dream team, so why are you bringing in members of the X-Men? It's an old joke I know. You know this mix tape challenge thing that's going on? How does that mesh with Llaura Llew's transatllantic mix tape challenge thing? Incidentally, it's been ages since Priscilla posted, does she go into hibernation once strawberries are out of season? catch you later, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeper at xxx.com Sat Oct 20 17:21:32 2001 From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:21:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: ignore this email (minneapolis) Message-ID: <200110201621.JAA09860@dork.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat Oct 20 19:43:14 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:43:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If Hotmail were a horse... Message-ID: Hey there Kitties It's been a while. I HATE Hotmail. I think it's about time I sorted some proper email out. I was looking forward to the Dundee picnic, which is today, but I can't go to Scotland 'till next weekend. Still, I could be dreaming... Hope you're all having fun up there? I've been ill these last few days, and though I'm not coughing up blood anymore it still seems like a good excuse to have a lazy arse weekend. My flatmates are out and I've the place to myself to enjoy and recuperate(sp?)in. Some good tunes on the stereo instead of the usual dance bollocks, time to read through all those posts, a good chat in #sinister... what more could you want! Actually after reading JohaN's post I was thinkig maybe I should make like my brother and emigrate to South Africa. I'm jealous of you enjoying the sun amongst the beautiful Cape-Dutch architecture, and yes, I've been to Potch too, or through it at least! It'd sure be a step up from another wet winter in Staines, but then I guess I'd be even further from the one's I love... I went to see the Cowboy Junkies last night. Probably not the wisest move given my current condition, but still worth it. And I went climbing again for the first time in ages last week, I'd forgotten how good that felt. So PhotoJenny's down here too now? Seeing as I missed the Manc picnic I'll have to catch up with you next time we're both out with the cool set in London and we can reminiss (sp?) about the old days oop north... And Lisa and Lee (how you doing btw?) sounds like you had a great time at the sinister (in more ways than one!) wedding! Hehe. Tim, Nic McCabe would be in my top 10 too. A genius with six strings. I finally found out what DDR is the other day. Hehe!! You should see the Westside boys getting jiggy with it in the bowling place near Staines. Enough to put even you off for life Ken. Well, although I'll still be waking up alone in my bed in the morning, the spell can still be broken by the sound of keys scraping in the lock... Anton's back from the river, and I guess I'll have to share this space again. Time to weigh up that old antibiotics and alcohol conundrum again... Speak to you again soon PeetSketchSteve just "some bloke in a cardigan" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zcraw96 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 20 22:31:05 2001 From: zcraw96 at xxx.uk (Christina McDermott) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:31:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oingy Boingy Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011020213105.0086da80@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Hello there again my little jelly-bean delights, First of all, thank you Mr. Carsmile for telling me that it was the Sultans of Ping (who I *do* remember by the way, I just don't remember them doing that particular song) who sang the fabulous song involving the lyrics "Went to the disco/bumper to bumper/wait a minute/where's me jumper?" As for the other band you mentioned...sorry dear. Never heard of them. This means that you're either getting old or I'm ignorant. Choose to believe whatever suits you best. Peetsketch Steve said:- "So PhotoJenny's down here too now? Seeing as I missed the Manc picnic I'll have to catch up with you next time we're both out with the cool set in London and we can reminiss (sp?) about the old days oop north..." Aye, I'm here now, and a lot of fun I'm having too. Went to see the Trembling Blue Stars at the Spitz last night with the Popkitten and they were so sweet. They played loads of old Field Mice songs too, like "Where'd you learn to kiss that way?" which was just sheer loveliness. Me and the Popkitten just kept looking at each other and going "Awwwwwwwww!" especially when they played "Never loved you more" which is my favourite song. I felt a little tear prick my eye when Bobby sang that, but then again I always do when I'm listening to the Trembling Blue Stars. They're just sheer loveliness and always remind me of being 14 when I would just play their first album "Her Handwriting" over and over again. *sigh* Anyway, yes *regains her composure* Now I'm in London, I still want to regain my capacity as a picnic mummy extraordinaire and the Hatchback (i.e. Danson-Hatcher) wants to be the Picnic Daddy seeing as he's crashing at my place at the moment. I had a thought that we should probably so it on 18th November which would be super-ace as it's a Sunday and also my birthday's on the 15th so it could kind of be a birthday picnic for me :-) Also the wonderful Track and Field disco night is on at Betsy Trotwood on the 16th I think (or so I have been told). I went there last night and it was wonderful. I danced me socks off! They played the Loves too who are wonderful, and I'm going to see them this week too-yippee! Unfortunately it took me two hours to get home from the place, but it was cool as I found the most wonderful taxi rank in the world where I played pool and discussed how wonderful it would be if some wise person invented Mr. T bus stops which told you where to go and shouted at you if you wanted to go to the airport *giggle* Anyway, yes. The picnic could be at Primrose Hill which is a fantastic place where you can see the whole of London from the very top and also we'd be near London Zoo and we could see all the lovely animals. Belle the doggy could come too and run about the hill and chase sticks and we could feed her chocolate. It would be so much fun! Anyone else agree, or is this just a me and the boy thing? Peetsketch Steve, we could meet then and discuss the good old days up North, where you can buy Greggs pasties and chip butties and Dandelion and Burdock and everybody puts ferrets down their trousers and says "Eeeeyy up" and has outside toilets (or so I've told lots of Americans here :-) ) As for the mix tape battle-wa-ha-haaarrr....I'm in the running now with Mr. Pez. Our team may be strong, but our spirit and our puns will prevail! Seeing as we're named after sweeties, I am no longer Miss Jenni, but Cay Cola-Cube instead which I think is a wicked name to have as cola cubes are ace. I was thinking of being Cay Cherry-Drop, but I think Cay Cola-Cube scans better in the long run. Anyway...time for me to go and find the boy and save him from the evil monster lurking in the sink. Love and oingy-boingy's Cay Cola-Cube xXx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Sun Oct 21 07:27:35 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sewing circles are not solely based in trades of cloth, there's spinsters all around here taking notes reporting on us as information travels faster in the modern age Message-ID: <688271.1003645655706.JavaMail.imail@dotty.excite.com> when i heard ben from death cab sing that. or rather. when i saw him sing that line. i swooned. with love. for death cab. singing about my life, they were, and i smiled that they knew my fate was to be a spinster. a reporting spinster, no less. i reached into my reporter's bag and took notes. oh yes yes yes yes, i said, and ignored conor oberst there lurking in the corner. no, then i wanted to have ben's children. anyway. the omaha death cab/prom/shiner show was fabu, minus shiner. yikes, i said. no math rock for this twee honeypie. so. where to start. i said a while ago that i had thought about becoming a lurker. and i received such a happy, happy outpouring of sinister love that my happiness was twofold: one, people on sinister are lovely, and two, people on sinister seem to think i am lovely after all. so, i'm not lurking too too much. on sinister. though i have thought about doing so in the big bad world. my friend jeremy told me recently that he thinks all people posess some degree of hotness, and that that hotness has periods of latency and activity. my hotness appears to have entered the ninth house of activity, and the raging come-ons i have been subject to as of late are almost too much for me to handle. first. there was the boy at the student government meeting. now, mind, i'm the student government reporter. i cover this faction. and yet. this boy. saunters over. and, kindly, gives me a 'one-seat buffer.' he said that. then. he said. i was: intriguing mysterious intimidating someone he thought he might not want to run into in a dark alley but someone who turned out to be interesting and had a personality oh my. laying it on thick, he was. and then he mentioned to me in passing that: his shoes were making his feet sweat did i like his open collar shirt? he was, in fact, a male cheerleader need i really say more about this kid? goodness. that. that was wednesday. after the death cab show. almost exactly at the same time that the boy i was dating was spending the night in another girl's bed. because i told him i loved someone else. so. thursday. fight with the boy i love. nothing from boy i was dating. friday. badness. boy i was dating tells me about rendezvous, and we're called off. boy i love is neutral on boy i was dating situation. so. i decided to call my friend ned in new york. now, ned and i have never met. i interviewed him for a story i wrote about him and the book he wrote two years ago. so. after that interview, we started writing emails. and all was well and sweet and friendly. recently, we started talking on the phone. and all was well and sweet and friendly. so i thought, surely, ned can make me feel better. well. the conversation was fine. and then we sent each other photos of one another through email. as we have never met, yes. and he attempted to tell me that i looked like several famous so and sos, and that those so and sos were hot. (note to boys: don't ever say, hey -- you look kind of like winona ryder with blonde hair. she's hot. NO NO NO. say 'you look kind of like her, but are so TEN TIMES HOTTER, AT LEAST.") so. yes. my photos. eventually, the conversation took odd turns and he asked if i wanted to have phone sex. NO NO NO. another thing not to ask a girl. especially not if you look like ned. who looks like ray romano of everybody loves raymond fame. so. i said no. of course. ugh. gross. they make magazines for that kind of entertainment. that don't involve my photo. which makes me wonder if anyone uses sinister photos for that kind of hobby. hm. yikes. sorry guys. anyway. then there was tonight. i suffered the lone 'actively hot' girl in the coffee shop fate. suffice it to say this man was 41. a welder. from L.A. who came to nebraska to visit his sister when 'the shit hit the fan' in new york. he asked me if i liked 'crawly things' and removed two hermit crabs from his shirt pocket and set them a crawlin' on the table. 'their names are 10 and 11.' apparently they were the tenth and eleventh hermit crabs he had had. he asked me a question. i said yes, i had a boyfriend. i had to lie, you see. because of 10 and 11. another question. why is it that 99% of the women in nebraska weigh 200 pounds plus, and the 1% as fine as you are all spoken for? sigh. so you see. why i think. i should. be a lurker. and accept. my fate. as a spinster. all you need is love in a romance novel. your very own single and sad but yet so so happy miss lindsey lou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Sun Oct 21 14:44:29 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:44:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Essex Green in B&S are Shite Shocker Message-ID: <000e01c15a36$874d2bc0$d3a487d9@oemcomputer> It's be quite a while since I last wrote, due to a changing of residences and a lack of internet access. I currently have a backlog of over 300 sinister e-mails! Anyway, on Thursday I had the good fortune of seeing The Essex Green and The Chemistry Experiment in Bath. I got there pretty early and asked the DJ to play some Sleater Kinney... and he smiled at me in that way that DJs do when you ask them to play their favourite bands... and he played it two songs later. From that point the night just got better and better. I talked to a guy from TCE for a while and he seemed pretty nice (he's actually a member is Sinister I discovered!), then they went on stage and they were great. After that I went to the merchandise stall, and bought a CE album... and the guy selling is complemented me on my Candle Records t-shirt. I said I liked a lot of the stuff on the label, but I really liked The Lucksmiths and I talked for a little while about how much I liked them and that they are one of my favourite bands. The guy then said 'Hi, I'm Mark for The Lucksmiths' and I was pretty stunned. He was really nice though, and I talked to him about me and Kara and how I loved Great Dividing Range and Guess How Much I Love You because they remind me of her... and he seemed pretty chuffed that I liked them so much. I saw the Essex Green after that, and they were brilliant... really bouncy, high energy indie-pop... though they didn't play Mrs Bean, even though I requested it, because they ran out of time. I was talking to the bassist afterwards and he seemed pretty nice. However, I asked if he had ever been compared to the mighty B&S, because almost every vaguely twee band seem to, even when they sound nothing alike. And that's when it happened. He said 'Oh, B&S are shit, and I don't like that band that named themselves after that song they did... Arab Strap, they're awful'... and I stood aghast, not only was he slagging off two of my favourite bands, he seemed to have got his information pretty twisted as well. I didn't say anything to him though, because apart from that he seemed alright. I also managed to line up interviews with TCE, Essex Green and The Lucksmiths for my webzine, Fast Cow. Which should be up in a few weeks if anyone's interested. Then I had to leave because the girl who gave me a lift was bored and tired and I couldn't get home any other way. I missed most of the main band, The French Kicks, set, but they didn't seem too great to me. They were billed as the next Strokes... and that's not really that much of an aspiration... not that The Strokes are bad, but they hardly set the world alight. Oh, and I also worshipped a guy with a Moldy Peaches t-shirt, and he seemed a little bemused. Well, that's about it for now, fare thee well Sinistrites. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Oct 21 15:01:36 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:01:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the overnight stopping train and dubious snacks Message-ID: <3BD2D540.7EDA2E9@netscapeonline.co.uk> 16 October 2001 I've decided to take it easy for a while, and write a post that's going to take ages to write. I'm not intending to say much. In fact, quite the contrary: I'm going to say very little, over a long period of time. You see, I *am*, after all, reading all your terribly lovely and quite delightfully *long* posts at the moment. I'm slowly absorbing a tone of voice, called a yawn, directly from a comfy armchair to which I shall return presently. Not a yawn of boredom, I hasten to add, but one of ... oh, I wish I had at my disposal a word in the same league as Cunning Andre's. But I shall settle for the slumbers of a nychthemeron, which is a whiny electronic Greek instrument that you can only use at night. Not. 17 October 2001 One day later and I'm already cheating and lying. It's still the 16th. 19 October 2001 'I'm always lying', after Epimenides, aside, this slow pace is really rather fine. Since last entry, I have done some tidying up, surfed the web for Bed & Breakfast establishments in Edinburgh, gone for a stroll, purchased three tins of wonton soup, watched a Ken Russell film about the composer Frederick Delius and have just screwed a plank of wood onto an old television stand after the fashion of a 1950's coffee table. It's amazing how much one can achieve in three days. I think I shall reward my efforts with a cup of Earl Grey and one of those chocolate coated digestives. 20; a Sunday I had a £1 all-day bus ticket on Saturday and toddled up to Barnton, to check out the place I've got to be at work tomorrow at 8:30am. (It is a grubby 3 storey block of late 60's / early 70's vintage and inside is a factory for twee little starter homes... kinda like the burgers of the housing market. Which might suggest to UK listees the name of the company.) Now, 08:30 is an ungodly hour by anyone's standards but when you live two and a half hours away it seems hardly worth bothering going to bed. Only a month's contract though, so I suppose it's a bit like working on an oil-rig minus the big pay cheque, the risk and the North Sea. And shore leave, speaking of which I also visited a big new box known as the Leith Ocean Terminal. I stood on a balcony, gazing past the old Royal Yacht *Britannia* and a French navy frigate, to see if I could see the Dundee Picnic, but the Kingdom of Fife got in the way. I turned around and wandered into a multiplex instead. KYsuperglue. Ouch. American Pie II has arrived. What is it with dogs on covers these days? First, Mr.Miller directs us to this: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OM55.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg and now the Mull Historical Society comes out with this: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005QD2N.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg is it the same dog? The first Scottish canine supermodel? Mmm... I think Sunnyset's Belle is better. In fact, I might start a 'Belle is Better' campaign. 24 October Now if I were really working hard I'd have devised both a dreem indie fitba' teem and offered to take part in the mistery mixtape competition. I'm not doing the former cos I can't be bothered to work out the rules of football and I don't know much about indie bands which brings me to the latter, as I'd only go adding Raymond Scott's 1962 vintage electronic advertising jingle for the Baltimore Gas & Electric Co. again. Either that or the Hostess Twinkies one of the following year, which clocks in at only 32 seconds so might be less painful. So I made up my own wee competition. Actually, it's more of a cheesy radio show give-away, but same difference. So, the Saracen's Head 'polo' shirt goes to the first person to send their address to: sybarite at working-hard.co.uk Of course, you'll have to prove you can play polo first. Or at least swallow one. 27 October "Furthermore, the character of Twinkie The Kid is a thoroughly adult character who engages only in mature activities not in any way recommended for children, such as law enforcement and rodeo theatrics. Twinkies are as safe and socially responsible as they are delicious." [http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/6174/jokes/hostess-market-unhealthy-twinkies-to-minors.htm] EAT SPAM! Slightly Pervy 'Adult' Mail. I'm re-subscribing on a new E-mail address cos I'm getting fed up with all the junk mail received at this one, which I'm shutting down lock, stock and tinned, without the ring-pull. And easy on the onions. 28; a Sunday I've had a relapse, and made the whole of the last week up. It must have been one of these weird dreams like you get when you eat Stilton before going to bed. Time for lunch (dead fish from France floating in hot water with bits added from a plastic packet in the freezer) Bouillabasse. *basiers voles* sings Viktor Lazlo** (a cool jazzy band from... not France but, like Jaques Brel and Vanessa Paridis and Poirot and TinTin(nabulation?), from Belgium), and also the title of the film 'Stollen Kisses' by Francois Truffle, which is all about two women and a German cake recipie [1/4 oz Yeast (dried), active 1 package 3/4c Water, warm 1/2 c Sugar, granulated 3 lg Eggs, a tricycle, one spatula, a large farmhouse table... ]. Gordon ** "One day I met the beautiful and exotic girl Sonja in the nightclub "Le Mirano" in Brussels. She wore a mini-skirt and had really long legs and a beautiful ass. I asked her if the quality of her legs corresponded with that of her vocal abilities. She said fuck off. In the end she finally did do backing vocals for Lou & the Hollywood Bananas. In one take! I was stunned and immediately knew we had to do something together." says her producer. 'SEXISM IS BAD. THE BROADS DON'T LIKE IT' as it says on the T-Shirt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Oct 21 17:04:27 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:04:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "ooooh, 'greensleeves' rocks. tell us some more hits, ann. please." Message-ID: <308499A882C16814D90E845D2C4877CB@chinacat81.wildmail.com> something strange is happening...i finally got to unpacking a bit last night. about time, too...five months. i found some good stuff i'd forgotten i had. a jar of latex, some more paper cement, an elvis magnet....elvis is now on the refrigerator door, dancing scandalously under my cousin jenna's senior portrait. so yes, elvis in a box. and then..."a century of elvis" somewhere...at someone's house. or in my car. or the coffee shop, i can't remember. so i started thinking, trying to think of all of the elvises i've met. there was one...i met him in an elevator at a hotel. someone was getting married...someone i sort of knew. i was about eight years old and wearing my best. running up to the hotel room for one thing or another, i found myself in an elevator with elvis. he asked me where the wedding was, and i stared wide-eyed and told him what i knew. then i got off on the wrong floor and ran back to the reception. i'd just met elvis and i'd given him directions, and he would be along any minute. i whispered it to rachel and we giggled nervously, waiting for everyone to explode with excitement when elvis walked through the door. but it never happened. well, elvis did walk through the door. the wrong wedding. they sent him away...i could have cried. elvis hated me, i was sure of it. i woke up this morning to "the elvis hour" on some college radio station. i sat up quickly and hit my head. and then i fell back down for a minute and i think i'm getting a bump now. i couldn't find sophie yesterday. sophie is my puppy. well, i say she's mine, and it's only a small fib. i'd been running around looking for her for quite some time when the telephone rang and i'm sorry if i was stupid on the phone, i was sort of...frantic. i was walking around the house saying "sophia maria" and making those lame kissy sounds people often make at cats. i used to laugh at people who made kissy sounds at their pets, but i'd only had goldfish and two small lizards. the lizards belonged to my brother, and he'd found them somewhere and they only lasted about a month and we were very sad when they died and buried them in a shoebox in the yard. some time later, the boy next door asked if he might dig them up for a science project. we'd all sort of forgotten... we said okay, in the name of education, and he dug them up and put them in the sun to bleach their little bones and i didn't really want to look at them, but i did. tiny white skulls. my high-school painting teacher was obsessed with georgia o'keefe. i never much cared for her work, but she was a fabulously sassy old lady. and quite beautiful, really. like a nice piece of driftwood. oh, why....okay. you know what? i don't like georgia o'keefe at all. she painted big raunchy flowers and nasty cow skulls. and she might have painted some nice things too but i've forgotten them. georgia o'keefe is all flowers and skulls to me. and she very well may have ruined my life. i am quite serious. literally. possibly. ruined it. erm. richard. john. gillanders. yeah. "if you're not into that whole 'brevity' thing." love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mozkid at xxx.com Sun Oct 21 21:02:41 2001 From: mozkid at xxx.com (Ernie Sanchez) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:02:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the seconds linger, and the memory remains... Message-ID: Hello! My second post. I�m not as nervous as the first time, and hopefully will perform better. I suppose I should start off by saying that I�m now an honourary member of the Wills. The initiation ceremony was very grueling, although a little inappropriate for discussion on this list. Along with Will Salt, I guess that somebody already suggested the name Will Pepper. Since Pepper was taken, in order to not cause any internal conflicts within the Wills, I considered becoming Will Paprika, Oregano, Cloves or Parmesan Cheese. Spike thought that Will Cloves would be best. Although I�m not so sure if I like this pattern. Wouldn�t want to become the subject of ridicule from the Rachels and Chrises (plural form?) on the list, who will call us the Spice Boys. That would be nice in a way, as we could adopt the slogan �Will Power!� But if we�re the Spice Boys, perhaps I should be Ginger, as I�ll probably be the first to leave the group and embark on a solo career of making mixes without the group. I�m already taking offers. Of course Ginger is also a fitting name as there are also the pictures shot of me a few years ago. But that�s another story... Andre, I enjoyed your New Zealand dream team list, but where is Martin Phillips? He would clearly be the goal scorer on my dream team, as I�ve recently become obsessed with the Chills and believe that they are the best New Zealand band. A Los Angeles meetup would be nice, although the Rachels (Cornflake and Fruitloop) seem to be in anti-Will mode now. I haven�t received an email from either of them recently. Perhaps we can get past our competitive differences and have a meetup somewhere in LA, dancing the day (and possibly night) away to B&S. Ok, on to my second B&S live review! Last time I left out a few things from the first San Francisco show that I enjoyed. Stuart requested some audience participation, and first asked if a girl that he�d heard that �set her nipples on fire� was at the show. I guess that somebody from the band saw this, I don�t know where though. Since she wasn�t available, he said that they�d have to think of someone else. They asked for someone to help sing �The Boy With the Thorn In His Side,� since Stu couldn�t remember all of the lyrics. As mentioned previously, he (Brian) did a wonderful job! They also had Rachel Cornflake, very embarrassed onstage but so cute, doing the spoken bit part during Dirty Dream #2. She was great! Also, an audience member in front of me gave Stuart an Oakland A�s baseball cap during the show and Stuart shouted, �That�s the team of the workers!� which I thought was fairly humorous. He wore the cap during a song, without taking off the tags. Finally, before �Everyday People� was performed in the end, Stevie mentioned that the following song to be performed was from the best San Francisco band. The crowd started yelling out band names, and Stevie would reply. �No, not the Jefferson Airplane. Not Green Day, certainly not fucking Green Day.� The crowd cheered at Stevie�s jeer, but then he said, regrettably, �respect to Green Day. It�s not that they aren�t any good, it�s just that we couldn�t do one of their songs.� He went on to say �They�re pretty tough guys, Green Day.� To which Stuart responded, �Eh, there�s more of us.� What a nice street brawl that would be! On to the second San Francisco show. Overall, the performance was very nice, their cover songs were amazing. Here is the setlist I came up with from my recording: Sunday 9/9/01 1. sleep the clock around 2. there�s too much love 3. the magic of a kind word 4. san francisco (wear flowers in your hair) (scott mckenzie cover) 5. mayfly 6. jonathan david 7. don�t leave the the light on, baby 8. the model 9. wandering alone (the new �spanish� song sung by Stevie, a wonderful song) 10. billie jean (michael jackson cover) 11. simple things 12. the boy with the arab strap 13. you made me forget my dreams 14. judy and the dream of horses 15. family tree 16. dog on wheels 17. the wrong girl (the previous night, Stevie did the first few lines of the song in the style of Johnny Cash, this time he did so in the style of Neil Young!) 18. woman�s realm 19. legal man Another wonderful night. Stuart complained about his playing football and his skin roasting and being sunburned because he was a �pale Scottish boy.� Yet he didn�t succumb to audience members� demands for him to take off his shirt and show people his sunburned body. During �San Francisco (wear flowers in your hair)� which was even lovelier than the original (quite an accomplishment), Sarah started to throw flowers into the audience. A few members of B&S had flowers in their hair as well. During Billie Jean, as mentioned, Isobel came out with the fake pregnancy ball under her Bob Dylan dress while Stevie looked at it and sang �the kid is not my son.� Hilarious! Actually, they had their drum tech, �Mr. Mark McGwire� go up on stage before the song to do the Moonwalk. This segued into the bass and keyboard intro for Billie Jean. As this was happening, I thought that they were going to stop, but as the vocals kicked in, the crowd went crazy. I was amazed at how many people knew the song, getting the lyrics along with yelling out the vocal �ooh� parts exactly as the original. Stu seemed surprised at this and gave everyone a thumbs up. It should be noted that Stevie did the majority of the singing, and Stuart did the �people always told me... bit for this song. Their vocal impressions of MJ were simply incredible! Probably the single most entertaining, best performance of a song I�ve ever seen! This was the first show I went to in which �Mayfly� and �Judy and the Dream of Horses� was performed. Besides one of the speakers being blown out during �You Made Me Forget My Dreams�, the sound was perfectly mixed, flawless again. Somebody in the crowd also yelled out �play the Aislers Set already,� to which Stevie played the first few bars of �Hit the Snow.� As I was standing two people over from Alicia and Wyatt from the Set, this was great to hear. Overall a wonderful night, a good end to the shows I attended. It�s strange to see how diverse the setlists were. Although they played 19 or 20 songs at each of the 4 shows I went to, they only did the following songs at all 4 shows: 1. simple things 2. legal man 3. family tree 4. women�s realm 5. the wrong girl 6. the boy with the arab strap 7. jonathan david 8. there�s too much love 9. the magic of a kind word Still, to only have half of the setlist remain the same over 4 nights is incredible and shows what a wonderful band they are. Most bands, even if they have a lot of releases, only practice the same songs and only have 2 or 3 different songs, and that�s performing only 10-15 songs. Also, looking at the diversity of bands covered throughout the nights showcases a great deal of diversity. And to think that they did �Don�t Fear the Reaper� by Blue Oyster Cult at the Olympia who but nobody has mentioned it! Attendees of shows, please provide us with more reviews if possible! Ok, this is incredibly long now, good luck again if you�ve read this far. Cheers, Ernie (Will Cloves) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sun Oct 21 21:59:12 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (John Maxwell) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:59:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: they come from a star Message-ID: the sky was grey and overcast today, and it was all drizzly. i was wondering what i was going to do, try to plan the day ahead; try and milk what little things i would be doing as much as i could, as what i usually do in my holidays. i looked outside the window of the sitting room, just past the garden and onto the sloping banks, where i noticed two blackbirds sitting. they were sitting facing each other, about ten yards away. they didn�t seem to be moving, and i couldn�t hear if they were making any noises to each other. wild birds are generally quite competitive, no matter their sex, and i thought it was a little odd for them to be sitting, staring. i�m not an expert on birds, but their colours varied slightly, and i know that they were of opposite sex. maybe i shouldn�t think so romantically, but i can�t help thinking that they were beginning to like each other. Two wee birds, snuggling in their nest is such a gorgeous thought. maybe they don�t get married, but they could have their own little honeymoon. it could be a romantic cruise across the world and a backpacking trip across europe, except it would be flying. they would have their honeymoon period of unparalleled love, but they would have the foundation building of having to live and defend for themselves, which would possibly make their love as good as any being�s.. since i�m only sixteen, i haven�t really discovered true love. but i think that it would be just an expanded or elaborated version of any other love; the tingling of liking someone so very much, and the doublefuzziness of them liking you back, the security that you could probably spend the rest of your days with them happily, and settle down and eventually have your own wee backpacking-birdie flight thing. but even the birds� love could be shattered; there�s always competition. there always seems to be a better bird than yourself, and then there�s always accidents. the birds� true love could easily be smothered by heartbreak when they are as happy and ecstatic as they would ever be, which would make the pain even more colossal. it�s hard enough when the aching is not related to true love. i wonder if birds ever fear the day when their love would be broken. i guess it does not happen to everybody. some people would be happy until they die, and arguably past their death. i wish that would happen to everybody, but in having to admit there�s no such perfect world, i am happy that some people would find their true love, be happy for the rest of their lives and never be broken, even if that wouldn�t be the case for me. i used to wonder if birds, and other animals found true love. i used to wonder (sometimes i still do) if it exists. but it must do, because there are so many lovely people, and so many people happy. there�s so much poo in our existence too, which can�t be ignored, but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. johnjohn x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 02:30:10 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the hardest part is yet to come Message-ID: <12734691.1003714210795.JavaMail.imail@dotty.excite.com> hello sinister. i decided. to post. again. so. this may be not funny. like my usual posts. i don't know what was wrong with me yesterday. hm. i'm home from university for fall break, as they call it, and so, so ready to go back to school. i love my family, yes. but. life, as it is called, is sucking and being home seems to only make it worse. this morning i decided to put my makeup on in my sister's room. and as i was putting on my face for the world, i heard her watches ticking in her jewelry box. about five or six of them, all ticking very loudly at different paces of seconds. and the sound made me quite sad. i had no music to drown out the time. and so was forced to listen to swatches telling me what a waste every wasted day is. (my sister and i love swatch watches. but they tick. very. very. loudly.) death cab for cutie say in one of their songs 'waste a day so i can think clearly.' and i think i hope i can think clearly when i go back to school and have to face not only that male cheerleader, but also the ex-dating boy man and the Boy I Love. when you realize you love someone. you get. scared. and when i realized i loved the boy i love, i had to face facts that i was dating someone else and that the boy i love doesn't love me so much in return. thus. i have come to think love is. overrated. now you'll all tell me "no, lindsey. love is wonderful and special and so so so good at the right right right time with the best best best man." danny, in particular, will say, 'lindsey, you must not think this way.' but. i do. so there. it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. well. i have loved. i do love. and am losing. because the boy. never loved. doesn't love. at all. those things -- the losing and the never loving -- i think, cannot be separated. if you lose someone, how much love was there to start with? and once you lose someone or some love, isn't it expected that you'll just start over? like you never loved at all? oops, i thought i loved you, but i was just kidding? of course, i'll wait for this love for this boy to ebb. and then i can say, yes. i loved someone. no matter that the love was unrequited -- in fact, brutally rebuffed time and time again by the confused and alleged bastard -- and no matter that the love hurt like hell and no matter that the love wasted left the lover leary of ever loving fully and truly. no matter. well. that's not my style. so lovers can take their hearts and roses and candy and put it on the shelf next to the godfather triology. overrated. i want to go away now, and never come back. i want to go where the apples in stereo sing about. but. i must. go back. to school. and broken. broken. broken. hearts. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 03:05:10 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:05:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: it's blue and it's loud Message-ID: <149.35cbb3e.2904d8d6@aol.com> It's blue and it's loud Making noise at one in the night.. Yes, I have a new blue fender strat!!! I can actually do the bar chords for She's Losing It on my electric. My acoustic guitar has way too thick a neck for my little hand to be able to do bar chords on. So I am excited, and thought I'd share (and brag). Ta ta! cheers, h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 06:56:20 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: baby steps to four o'clock! Message-ID: <20011022055620.56519.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> HELLOOOO SINISTERINES!!! Some days are packed full of moments that seem like they are the crux of many things about to unfold. Today has been one of those days for me, filled with these dynamics... This day has been about two weeks long. There have been so many wonderful posts and I have been trying to get organized all day to post something of my own. So here I am, rock you like a hurricane! Just to give y'all a little fruitloop update, I have reconciled with my dancing partner from onstage at the 2nd L.A. B&S show, Dustin Smartly-Dressed, after he profusely apologized for inviting his ex-girlfriend to stay with him over my birthday weekend and then stood me up for a concert because he was "ill". It turns out that he really was ill, in addition to suffering from being an eighteen-year-old boy. I am glad to be his friend, because Dustin is very funny and smart and talented. We had a very nice evening Friday night. He's thinking about joining this list, too, so you'll find out how grate he is if he isn't too shy to post. Elise from Wisconsin is one of the most caring and kind hearted little cutie I've ever had the pleasure of having in my life, and I thank her so much for being so wonderful! This list made that connection possible, and also... the sweetie Ryan from this list met my family today including most of my siblings and my parents and my Aunt. It was slightly embarrassing, but mostly a lot of fun. Ryan said that my family is "colorful" and my family thinks Ryan is the nicest cutest boy I've ever brought around to meet them. It was fab! What a doll Ryan is! Welcome Andre Enrico Ciriaco Federico!! Andre wrote of a pretty in pink girl: "I know I should go up and say something, but- you know how there are some people that just melt you?" Yes... I do. I think that is why I accept apologies from silly eighteen-year-olds. And I wear a lot of pink, PAL, and I wear it well! ;) I think you definitely should talk to this girl!!! It sounds like she's noticed you, too! Besides, life's too short! Danny Farrell wrote: "I almost hugged a lamp post last night,i think i would have if id had more to drink but as it was i just settled for a few head-pats from my tall friend and the pearls of wisdom "It really can only get better" or something similar to that anyway." Yep. It can only get better. Then it might get a little worse again, but then one day it will get a lot better and it will seem like you're infused with the strength to not care too much about the lonliness anymore, and that's when you will meet someone grate! Chris Pez wrote: "contrary to popular belief the chrises mix tape challenge team still exists. it now consists of Chris Pez (me) and Cay Cola-Cubes [we're named after sweeties, see?" well, you two may be sweet, but you're just empty carbohydrayes. We Rachels are the most IMPORTANT meal of the day, and therefore will have the stamina to make the best mix tape ever!! Caleb Ben wrote: "well i hope nobody gets mad at me, but i've nominated myself an honorary rachel. and henceforth, i shall be known called Rachel As Well. initials R.A.W. thats right." Okay, R.A.W (that's very close to my initials, R.E.W.!) Welcome to team Rachels! I shall be mailing all of the Rachels and Honorary Rachels to go over our plan for the mixtape!!! yay! I'm so excited! An Monchichi (hee) wrote of Caleb Ben's (A.K.A.R.A.W.) idea for a "telephone" game using song lyrics translated from language to language: "If everyone follows the rules (what rules?) I reckon it could turn out quite hilarious in the end. I assume you're not allowed to use the actual lyrics as help?" Yeah, that sounds like a hoot!! How do we start this one? Miss Cay wrote:"Me and Hatchback were at the Betsy Trotwood on Friday with the rest of the Sinister "massive" and *wowsers* it was so good! Ben Apps-you are such a little groover and shaker!" So... Ben Apps is a groover and shaker? Like a superfly disco dancin' John Travolta sort of groover and shaker!?! Oooh, tell me more! I liked Cay's story about Danson-Hatchback moving in! Amy from Melbourne wrote:"hands up who wants 'my so-called life' back in their lives?" I do!!!! That show ROCKED my world. Claire Danes' haircolor in it alone was enough to snare me in! But It was just such an engaging show in general. I think it was the first of its kind, before the Dawson's Creek lot! Asm wrote: "I was on the bus today and there was a girl who looked just like Katie Holmes, holding hands with a boy who looked just like Jarvis Cocker, and I marvelled at the perfection of this couple." Awww, that's so cute!!! It's grate when you can take notice of cute couples and appreciate how wonderful it all seems. Most times how it seems is even better than how it really is, at least for me. I try not to get carried away with the dreamy fantasy part of a relationship because then the whole thing takes on a life of its own and is based on nothing, and when the infatuation fades, what are you left with? nothing. Sometimes simple realism can be your best friend! But I like to look at cute couples and dream about how lovely it all can be! CarsmileSteve wrote: "You know it's at this time of year that i like to go back and read the rules of the list, just in case i've missed anything." Which section of the list rules do you suppose would make the most interesting reading for the majority of us, then? Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester wrote: "Can someone tell me what 'vintage' clothing is?" It's the term that thrift stores use to justify charging $20 for a blouse that you ordinarily could buy at a secondhand store for $2. Archel Toast wrote: "i think we should have a sinister picnic in a library." That's a fancy idea!!! But wouldn't you get kicked out for being too loud and for drinking alcohol in a library?! So, HOW WAS THE DUNDEE PICNIC?! Kate Keenan wrote: "What am I, scotch mist?" I am going to add this phrase to my vernacular straight away! Calumn wrote: "Loads and loads of people came to visit me in GLASGOW (they may not have arrived for me *exclusively*, except for Ken, who was looking to pick up a couple of tips for pulling the ladies. And Lady wasps, apparently!)" So what are some of the ladykiller tips that Ken might have picked up from you whilst in Glasgow? Slip some vodka in her red bull when she isn't looking? Miss B. "Sweet Adeline" posted a grate story about a man dressed as Jesus, complete with cross, going into Walgreens to buy snack cakes. I gotta say that I wish I had witnessed that scene! THAT's what I call divine comedy! Stout Robin wrote about the longevity of historic writings:"someone the philosopher knew had kept a diary, and in this diary were all sorts of things about the philosopher and all of his ideas, along with shopping lists and moans about his wife. But the reason archaeologists had found this diary at all, with all its fascinating stories, was because the man had CHISELLED IT INTO HIS BEDROOM WALL, and the archaeologists had found the wall." I wonder if our binary banter just disappears into thin air or if there will be historic records from e-mails in the future... Lisa from Texas wrote of her friends' wedding: "The strains of "Johnathan David" begin ...and the wedding couple and aforesaid Seattle pal all join me (no coercing! I feel so blessed!) to do the various kinds of Charlie Brown kids' dances." Whoah! That's so cool! I wish I had been there to do a little Charlie Brown dancing! The whole wedding sounds like it would have been an experience not to be missed! Peter Miller wrote of the new B&S cover for "I'm Waking Up To Us": "I think it's gorgeous, to be honest. I think it's the best B&S sleeve of the lot." Wow, I really love this cover artwork, too! The girl and the dog are ultra cute... I think it could be my favorite as well! Ruvi wrote: "people are silly and sad the world over." Yes, some areas moreso than others, but it's a relief to know that there are other people just as silly/sad (I like to interchange these) as I am. welcome back from China, Ruvi! Vu in Minneapolis/St. Paul looks pretty cute. I want to know how one goes about getting an e-mail address from dork.com cos I think I really need one! The ill boy PeetSketchSteve wrote: "Tim, Nic McCabe would be in my top 10 too. A genius with six strings." I also agree with you and Tim about Nick McCabe. Seeing the Verve live was like a religious experience for me because of his guitar playing. Can anybody tell me what Nick McCabe is doing these days? I hope you are feeling better, Steve! So, I haven't really heard much from you Southern California/L.A. area Sinisterines, what am I, Scotch mist?... drop me an e-mail if you're interested in picnicing. I had suggested Saturday November 10th, but we can discuss it further! Ernie, you are next on my list to write back to! I have no ill "Will" towards your team! (but the Rachels are gonna kick your butt! ;) And Katie Cheeriodle, I also apologize for taking a while to write back. I'm off like a prom dress! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi_trenzano at xxx.es Sun Oct 21 11:20:07 2001 From: jordi_trenzano at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:20:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22In_her_world=2C_vinyl_records_are_made_like_cr=EApes=22?= Message-ID: <000701c15a19$f7cbdee0$bb6b63d5@teleline.es> Sentence of the year. I hope my frenchie neighbours (and miss Lola Monnet) won´t punish me if it´s not the right translation :) If I ever have a record label, i´ll call it "records like crêpes", even If I just have to release vinyl editions. I love the new sleeve, I just hope that Belle the nearly-grown up dog doesn´t get jealous and starts biting the sleeve once her owner buys the single. I heard Belle was preparing herself to teach a greek dog how to bark rude words in bark-glasgaweseee. I won´t say where does the topic line comes from. Jordiet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 10:34:58 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:34:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sixty-two and a half per cent isn't bad Message-ID: Hello. Me. You don't have to read this if you'd rather not. It's that picnic report time again. Have you head of a man called William McGonagall? I was sure he'd been mentioned on the list before, but I searched and found no trace of him. I think that's how you spelled his name. He was a nineteenth-century Dundee man who was convinced that he was a truly great poet, and spent lots and lots of money publishing his truly awful poetry. I should really go to the library and look up some genuine McGonagall quotes but instead I'm just going to make some of my own up. It's easier, and it means I can mention B&S. Saturday was a grey horrible rainy day all over the country, but a few of us still bothered to empty our bank accounts and come to Dundee. Well, we were expecting Dundee to be grey and horrible anyway, so we were quite pleased to find that it was only the same as anywhere else. It wasn't as bad as Aberdeen, even. Picnic Mummy Rachel Sunset met the other three of us (yes, that's all) at the railway station and showed us the delights of Dundee's supermarkets before taking us back to her house. I'm sure Llew will have heard of William McG. I'm not sure about Chu, though. There, that's the obligatory mentions over and done with. We're still annoyed that Chu couldn't be bothered to come to the picnic. He (McGonagall, not Ken) would probably have said something like this: On a day in the year two thousand and one To fair Dundee came a great happy throng Except that really not many people came Bacause of the prices of tickets on the train. Pastiche McGonagall is much easier than pastiche Nostradamus, I'm telling you. They bought food and drink at Tesco's, the shop Whilst worrying their picnic would be a great flop They travelled to Rachel's through rain and through fog And got licked, bit and jumped on by a small furry dog. /me giggles. This is fun. OK, not for *you*, maybe. Some of these rhymes are actually too good to be McGonagall, I think. He's that bad. He'd probably rhyme "dog" with "dog". Rachel has a lovely house, with varnished bare floorboards and a very cute dog rushing about and licking everyone she meets. I felt guilty, because it's much nicer than mine. It's a little house, a lodge at the entrance-gate to a big school, so we were just the right size picnic to fit round her living room. We didn't talk very much when we were sober, but as we drank more we talked more. I'll have to remember that trick. I've met quite a few listees in the past week, actually. A few days ago, I was sat at home of an evening and there was a knock on the door. A boy wearing lots of corduroy was stood there, and somehow I just knew that it was someone from the list. Well, I had been vaguely expecting him, but I thought he was going to phone me. He brought me a bottle of wine, the loevly chap. I'm glad I realised who he was. We journeyed for miles to the city of Glasgow A fair city through which the broad Clyde does flow To hear voices, singing, like an angelic choir At a gig which someone had seen on a flyer. (W. McG really does re-use cliches like "fair city" in every verse of a poem, or introduces irrelevant geographical stuff for the sake of a rhyme) At the picnic, we phoned as many people as we could think of and said "why aren't you here?" They gave silly excuses like "I've got no money, "I'm on the wrong continent," or "I've lost my puppy." I gossiped to Kirsten about the boy she sent a crush vote to, and to Dimitra about the boy she hasn't sent a crush vote to yet. After a while, we had finished eating and drinking and Danny told us he had seen a "Stevie Reverb" gig advertised in Glasgow for that night. So we all went off and caught the train again. This whole mixtape competition thing seems to be getting serious now. I'll have to get in touch with the Will Team and sort out what we're doing. Watch this space, people. <-------- space In Glasgow we met more people: Rich, Sweetie and Sarah. We went off to the gig, which was lovely and nice and had at least five members of B&S on the stage at some points. We all loved it, and Rachel seemed especially excited for some reason. Stevie asked for requests from the audience, and a listee persuaded him to sing Wonderwall, once he had remembered what the first line was. Other covers requested (and played) included Maggie May, In My Life, and the theme from Cheers. I can't remember the names of any of his own songs that he played, obviously. <------ more interesting space Stevie stood singing, with fey-looking moves And noone dared get up to go to the loo Beanz, Bob and Richard looked terribly mellow And Mick Cooke, as usual, was a right classy fellow. Afterwards, we all wandered off, of course. Sweetie had to leave early to get her bus home, but apparently didn't leave early enough. Rich was rather drunk, disappeared, so Sarah thought she'd better go and look for him. Danny had to get a taxi back to Ned Country, and me and Rachel fell asleep on a sofa. She told me about some of the nice dreams she had in the past, but only dreamed worried dreams about the lovely Bellepuppy, hoping she was OK. We returned to our homes that are spread far and wide Rachel Picnic Mummy with feelings of pride Lyns falling asleep, for better or worse And me with a penchant for terrible verse. OK. That's *really* enough McGonagall for one day. xx gneissy -- http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ ICQ 66321009 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Oct 22 11:05:27 2001 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Chris Stride) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:05:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Offbeat B&S night, Sheffield 23/11 Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2339 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 11:57:47 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:27:47 +0930 Subject: Sinister: Something GOOD is going to happen to YOU! Message-ID: Yes, you. And very soon indeed. I promise. I�m still grumpy and tired and confused and difficult like I normally am, but I�m also filled with affection today, so it seems like as good a time as any to post. A few good things have happened lately, and I feel like I might be turning some sort of corner, even though my very favourite Aunt Sadie reliably informs me that my karma is sitting at minus one. I�m sure that can�t be right. She also tells me that I�m �the ultimate tart�, and I�ve got no idea how that rumour got started either. Not that I mind. It�s nice to have a reputation, no matter how unfounded it might be. Here are some headings with some things under them: SILLUSTRATION One of the good things that happened to me lately was that I found out that I've been sillustrated! Perhaps I shouldn�t say that this is a good thing until I�ve actually SEEN the sillustration; it might be most unflattering. I�ve been checking the Sinister page at regular intervals today, however, anxiously awaiting its arrival. Celebrity at last! I always knew I�d be famous one of these days. I�ll just stand by the front door of my house and wait for the truckloads of cash and girls to arrive, shall I? Grand. Given the brilliance of Ulla�s previous sillustrations (of which I�m an enormous fan), I�m convinced that I�ll be absolutely thrilled with it when I finally get to see it; I�m not at all worried. Now, Ulla, you know that I�m tall, bronzed, buff, and devilishly handsome, yeah? A fair dinkum hunk, I am. So long as that�s understood, I�m sure there�ll be no problem whatsoever. TRAVEL The other quite amazingly good thing that has happened during the week is that I�ve made some travel plans. Travel is about the best thing you can do for yourself, I think, and best undertaken as a rash, spur of the moment decision, with no proper planning or forethought. It was in this spirit that I went to the travel agent last week, and started making all sorts of half-baked plans. If these plans do, in fact, come together, I should be able to spend New Year�s Eve in New York City, although it will mean spending Christmas Day partly on three aeroplanes and partly in Sydney and Los Angeles airports. I�ve found out that it�s nigh on impossible to get any further away from Adelaide than New York City; it�s quite a haul. The thought that I�ll be travelling away from my temporarily and artificially reunited family at high speed, towards the most distant point from them on earth, while they�re busy shouting at one another, though, is deeply comforting. Plus, I�m travelling halfway around the world in an Easterly direction, so Christmas Day ends up being enormously long. I�m not sure if this is a good or a bad thing, yet, but I�ll let you know. I normally end up drinking and arguing at Christmas time (it�s a time-honoured family tradition), so maybe I�ll just get stuck into the drinks cart and have a go at the poor sod sitting next to me. I�ll blame it on homesickness, if questioned. A benefit to the fact that New York City is so far from home, though, is that a �round the world� ticket is only very slightly more expensive than a return fare. So, if I can get an extra week away from work, I�ll be able to spend a little time in the UK as well, on the way home. Which is obviously enormously exciting, particularly since I�ve never been. I�ll most likely spend the majority of my time in London, where I have my very favourite cousin to stay with, but I�m hoping to be able to see a little more of the country than that too, and possibly a little of Scotland, if I have time. There are a couple of you I�d love to visit, for a start � you almost certainly know who you are, and I�ll keep you posted. It�s a shame it won�t be picnic weather, really, but then it�s always the right time of year for a pub-nic. Perhaps the most exciting thing of all, however, is the fact that this trip will enable me to finally meet up with the listee on whom I have a great big crush. I�ll not make her turn pink by naming names, but she knows that I think she�s simply the bee�s knees. It�ll almost certainly turn out to be a complete disaster (it�s me, after all), but I�m still rather curious to discover what sort of disaster it will be, exactly. I won�t say any more than that for the time being, and I might or might not let you know how it turns out, depending on how embarrassing it is for all concerned. I�m also spending a few days in Melbourne in a couple of weeks to visit my sister and attend a conference. That would normally be pretty exciting in itself, but seems a bit �ho hum� in comparison with what�s coming up in a couple of months. My sister is showing some signs of promise, though, despite suffering some dreadful taste in music of late. I bought her The Boy With The Arab Strap for a present last year, and she now tells me that she�s gone and bought IYFS and FYHCYWLAP off her own bat. Apparently even her fianc�e is listening to them at home now, which I consider a huge victory. I bet I�ll giggle when I go to visit, though, and see those three sleeves sitting quietly in amongst the Cold Chisel and ACDC that so conspicuously dominated the CD rack the last time I visited. WILLS VS RACHELS VS CHRISES MIXTAPE CHALLENGE MADNESS Um, I�d love to join in this one as an honorary somethingorother with a humorous nickname, but unfortunately I don�t have a tape deck. If any of you would like me on your team, though, please email me for my postal address. You can then post Ken Chu out to me directly, and I�ll play him some songs round at my place, making sure to swap the CDs over really quickly between songs. It�s the next best thing, I promise you. Plus, I can get him drunk while he�s here, and introduce him to some girls, which might swing things in our favour. Any takers? FANTASY INDIE FOOTBALL I�m not getting in on this one, though, I�m afraid. I was tempted to say it was because we don�t have the talent here, but that�s completely untrue. The real reason I�m not entering is because I�m too lazy, and I don�t even remotely understand the rules. I remember being challenged to come up with a �best of all-time� fantasy football team by some mates in high school that knew considerably more about such things than I did. I put Jesus Christ in goal, and figured that whoever else I had on the pitch, I could at least count on a nil-all draw. They claimed that I knew nothing about football (actually, we call it �soccer� here � �football�, or more commonly �footy�, is something else, and even more inexplicable). I claimed that the rules needed to be better defined. I think we were both right. HANGOVERS Um, here�s some content, sort of. The song �Ease Your Feet In The Sea� seems somehow to be perfectly suited to a hungover mental state. If I wake up feeling particularly bad, I�ll often listen to this song three or four times before doing a single other thing. The perfect hangover cure, by the way, is a fried egg, vegemite and mayonnaise sarny, consumed along with large quantities of strong, black coffee while listening to this song. This is then followed by hair of the dog, administered as soon as the pubs open. I strongly recommend it. Just be careful not to get hold of so much hair that you wind up with enough to constitute a whole new dog. It�s a trap for young players, that, and one to which I�ve fallen prey more than once. Still, you live and learn, huh? Well, you live. GIVING UP THE FAGS I haven�t had a cigarette in sixteen days! Woohoo! But, um, who�s counting? Ahem. ON THE PULL Many thanks have to go, surely, to Lindsey Baker. Your posts always contain valuable pulling tips, and trust me; I�m taking notes. You�re a thoroughly entertaining and informative resource. If only you�d put together a handy pocket edition (�The Concise Lindsey Baker�?), I�m sure all of us chaps would become completely unstoppable. But why be a community service when you could be making a killing in the commercial world? With the number of influential bookstore and library sorts on this list, this could be THE book for the rapidly approaching holiday season. Whether you want to be held responsible for unleashing the book that will surely instigate some sort of worldwide indie-boy shag-a-thon is something to consider, I suppose, but you really need to ask yourself whether the juggernaut that would be this collected repository of precious knowledge should, or indeed could, be contained by one person alone. It might be sheer folly to attempt to stand in its way. I think that, ultimately, history will be the judge. APOLOGIES To those to whom email is owed: I�m not only very busy this week, but a terrible, terrible person. To all of you, actually: I�ve just realized how long this is. I must REALLY be procrastinating today. Eek. Sorry to you too then, boss. Stay lovingly coated in full-cream dairy milk chocolate. Bulk love, -David. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n.barr at xxx.uk Mon Oct 22 12:55:50 2001 From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:55:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Important lucksmiths glasgow gig info. Message-ID: <3BD41756.1032.BE256A@localhost> Hi everyone, It's really important that those of you who're planing to go to the Lucksmiths gig in the Postgraduates' Club on Wednesday organise your tickets and get put on the guest-list in advance. Because of the type of licence the club has only members and people on the guest-list will be allowed in on the night. To organise tickets and get put on the guest-list, or to find out more about the gig, e-mail dani at ecosse.net Niall. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mod4real at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 14:56:02 2001 From: mod4real at xxx.com (Toby C) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: summer come winter Message-ID: <20011022135602.92793.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> my 15 mins mates, At a boring night of my unemployed life, i record some noise at a small room with amps and drums with my band mates. My band is called Seatbelt i play bass. i wrote a song called jellyfish http://roppi.com/mp3/seatbelt_20011018_jellyfish.mp3 Mind u this is cantonese. I ve only got the lyrics for chorus. and Broken String is a jam.. i play bass and sing http://roppi.com/mp3/seatbelt_20011018_postrock.mp3 remix of it http://roppi.com/mp3/sb_postrock_remix.mp3 New York City Cop, i play bass... we are just playing it for fun... my mate sing it... like singing a karaoke... he speak terrible english.. http://roppi.com/mp3/seatbelt_20011018_nyc.mp3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 15:26:55 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i gave myself to sin...... Message-ID: <20011022142655.22568.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> why does bacon have to taste so good? sometimes i crave it something awful.... and whenever i actually give in to my desire, i end of feeling quite wretched. there's a little breakfast joint in my building that will give you ample portions of: crispy bacon, cheddar covered scrambled eggs, and "american fries"--thick sliced seasoned fried potatoes (with the skin on, mind you!) and onions.....all for only $3.50! and everytime i do this i feel like shite and i vow to never do it again, but before i know it, the bacon is calling out to me.....and i give myself to sin. so i'm hoping that this gigantic ass bottle of cranberry juice will revive me a bit from my grease-induced malaise. anyway........yeah. been listening to james taylor and america alot lately. any opinions? i do think b&s would do a smashing version of muskrat love. or a horse with no name. or even ventura highway. well i'll shortly be contacting those who want to get in on the translation game.....any more takers? the more the merrier! so far we have portugese, estonian--i hope, i havent actually asked ulla yet, dutch, swedish (i think) so are there any more languages out there willing to participate? russian maybe? french? any solely english-speaking people (such as myself) can pick a language to translate it into.....nothing too hard please (i was going to do gaelic, but i figured those dictionaries are not that easy to find)....possibly flemish or welsh.....or lakota! that would be kewl. ok that settles it. i'll do Lakota. i think i have a lakota-english dictionary at home somewhere. so just email me and let me know your interested! i'll be sending out rules and such soon. come on, it'll be fun. caleb ben aka R.A.W. ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Mon Oct 22 14:36:08 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:36:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: "I love talking about nothing... It is the only thing I know anything about." Message-ID: <011001c15b17$5f13e7c0$0d6a4cd5@default> the first person to guess the author of this quote gets a prize..! ;) hello sinisters :) it's really annoying not to be able to sing for over 2 weeks. trust me on this. however, it's even more annoying when you try to sing and end up sounding like marylin manson in a well. now that's really baad. i hate being ill. the only good thing about it is that i don't have to go to school and hence have more time to read sini posts. i've especially enjoyed the 'indie football teams' ;) most of my types have already appeared in some mails... but not bernard butler. he could be a midfielder... or even a sub - the lad is obviously frustrated and in need of a job. otherwise he wouldn't be collaborating with heather nova, would he? ahh... and i used to love early suede stuff so much... *sigh* another additional player i'd have is badly drawn boy. feel free to laugh, but i'm seriously smitten with mr damon ;) he could be the goalie. or, on second thoughts, he could serve as the ball too.. ;) anyone knows if darren 'hefner' hayman is good at football? ;) *approaching the gist of the mail now, namely me mis-using the list* hearsay became true, and a nice Polish band Myslovitz is going to play in London! (loud cheering follows) *****attention all gig-goers from the London area!***** the concert will take place on 4th november in the ealing/windsor hall. the band is really good, trust me, and they'd surely like to see a few nice people at their gig :) the tickets shouldn't be expensive too. plus, if you don't like the music you can always spam me saying: 'your taste in bands is rubbish!' sounds tempting? thought so ;) sorry for using the list as means of advertising - i just felt it to be my patriotic duty to tell you all about the concert =) about patriotism, i'm *really* happy i didn't have to vote in the last general election (i'm not entitled to vote yet, yahoo). even though it didn't mirror the last presidential election (when *13* candidates ran for the post), the choice was tough still. among the parties were The Doing-Nothing Smooth-Talkers (most of them got rich in the times of communism and later sort of swiftly changed their beliefs ;), The Screamer-Critics Without Any Plan Of What To Do, The Screamer-Critics With A Faint Idea Of What They'd Change, The Pretend-We're-Flash-And-New Party (mostly comprising people who used to belong to lots of different groups but decided to form their own for a change) and so on, and so on. this is depressing. or perhaps being ill for over 2 weeks has made me over-sarcastic ;) anyway, sorry for getting long, boring and political(!) take care everyone (and go see Myslovitz! ;)) luv, olalala -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s.arnot at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 19:34:39 2001 From: s.arnot at xxx.com (s.arnot at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:34:39 BST Subject: Sinister: on returning Message-ID: <20011022183533.FEGD16962.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> INTRO after a summer of full-time work during the day and full-time hedonism at night, both of which prevented me from both posting and reading posts, i am now at uni, and therefore have to use a computer everyday. i'm afraid i had to delete a lot of posts unread, but the ones i picked out to read were very nice and good. HUDDERSFIELD are there any sinister people in huddersfield? that's where i am at uni. i am doing music technology and audio systems, a rather unwieldy moniker, for a course that only seems to involve messing about with things that make noises. huddersfield has some quite nice things in charity shops and at the second hand market. i bought a belt today for £1 from the world cup in spain in 1982. also, i bought a cardigan the other weekend from the market for £1 but left it on the taxi, which i wasn't very happy about as it was a double-cool cardigan. at least i hadn't put any badges on it that night. DREAMS to be honest, i prefer nasty dreams to nice dreams, because in the morning after nice dreams i always feel inferior to the dream version of myself, who is really cool and popular. actually, though, the other night i had a particularly horrible dream which meant i couldn't get back to sleep. in the dream, i was sitting on the floor and a four-year-old in a white puffer jacket hit me in the face with a half-brick. regards, piddlemonkey -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 19:45:02 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:45:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: A Reluctant Interview with Mandee Wright Message-ID: <76.11a6d3c2.2905c32e@aol.com> Q: Where have you been? A: Wandering the halls Michener Library, looking for a boy named Douglas who has a high-speed internet connection... but everytime I open the door to his office he isn't there. But his jacket is, propped upright into the shape of a person and stuffed with a few brightly-colored hankerchiefs. I usually end up rummaging through his desk drawer and find condoms and cigarettes and scribbled notes from absent students: "I came down with shingles."; "I had a familiar emergency"; "There's something wrong with my lexicon". Other similar excuses along those lines, sometimes even quickly-drawn illustrations of the problem--for instance, the girl with shingles drew a messily pegged torso dotted with inklets of red: what I took to be a pictorial representation of the shingles themselves. Q: When did the problem arise? A: When I noticed that every one of my CD cases was missing the actual CD. Q: Who do you miss most? A: The usual bunch. A lot of initials composed of K's, R's, S's and L's. Q: Are the rumors true? A: No. Absolutely not. Q: When are you going to get it together? A: Once I figure out where I left off. Then, after I figure the starting point, I will do a series of difficult math equations--FOILing out the algebra, doing synthetic division--hopefully it will all come out to an equation with a few plus signs that can finally make some reiterated sense. Q: What happened in the channel? A: Oh, nothing.. Q: Give us your top ten reasons: A: 1. Life ends in a big sigh. 2. The necessities of life include a few mice drunk from fetal alcohol experiments, two unopened boxes of some crunchy and tasty, yet very nutritious cereal, and my dog, who is dying. 3. Photojenny--what was Stevie thinking(Hushed: "I dooon't know)? 4. I bought Nintendo's THE GLOVE. I wear it to dance clubs and do the baggly bagg, which is a dance intended to be performed along to Blackstreet's "Yo Diggity". 5. I finally ran into Douglas 6. I was making a compilation tape 7. School is littering the countertops 8. The Pinefox 9. Gnostical Turpitude 10. For once in my life--oh god--just get it together. Q: For what reasons? A: I've just lost my bookmark is all. This is open for interpretation. On one hand, a story of mine is being published in a journal called 3rd bed. http://www.3rdbed.com It's hard for me to phantom this. Mandee. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 19:47:05 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:47:05 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello. I'm visiting my girlfriend at her college in norther california today. I got up here on saturday afternoon. It takes about ten hours to do so on the Amtrak. It only takes abou 5-6 in a car though. She broke her foot earlier this week and it's been kind of rough on her so I'm trying to help her out, though sometimes she gets all pissed that I can't read her mind. I'm in the SSU library right now. There are a lot of lames. There is this guy with this huge "white-guy afro". He's wearing sunglasses indoors and looks around to see if anyone is looking at him. Another guy I walked pass in here was doing some studying, he was an older guy like 45 or somthing, he was all wirey and looked at me like he was going to ask if I need any help but didn't say anything. I walked passed and he said "I'm not crazy, I'm just thinking you know?" i should have said, "yes, you are crazy." I don't go to school here but I walk around with my back pack full of Community College homework like I pay thousands to come here.....I should go I'm really really sorry for the sort post but I have to go pick up my one leggeded wonder from geology! tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 22:01:28 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel .) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:01:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: finally!!! Message-ID: oooh, hello darlings!! so, here i am. finally out of nursery and all! ooh, i'm *so* glad!! anyway, i'm in quite a hurry, but i just felt that i had to post one time, since it's my first and all. ok, well... err... i'm rachel smith. yeah. does it ring a bell? no, i thaught not. i've talked a bit to, dear, rachel fruitloop... and we agreed that my surname should be Orange Juice, so i'm... well, i'm rach o.j! i live in norway with my adoptive parents (my birth mother lives in london. oooh, lovely place!) i'll probably be moving quite soon beacuse my father (ok, ok, atoptive father) got this wierd job in sweden. well, i guess that'll be nice too. as i said, i'm in a hurry... so, well... bye, oh lovely, lovely sinisteres! /rach oj _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Mon Oct 22 22:02:37 2001 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:02:37 +0200 Subject: Sinister: nothing is too wonderful to be true Message-ID: here i am- your graphic equaliser. or something like that. will you have me wills? as a new member in your team? a member who is almost always late and most sleepy in the mornings. but i WILL try my best and.. yeah.i will try my best. plus i'm super friendly and funny when i'm tipsy. or at least so i've been told. it could be of cause nasty rumour only told to make fun of me. i was thinking about a name i would have if i will be accepted. something like *will-i-am* or *will-is*. *will-is* specially because there was.. there is a really cool car in Russia called that. or if it has to be food related then would something like *will odour* do? it's kind of food related. and the other game that caleb ben has created to specially please all of us who speak different languages. don't you think he's amazing? i do. estonia is in, for sure, as far as i have a word to say about the issue. what now follows is personal. i haven't really told anybody that, i hardly do tell anyone about things like that. but it feels good to write about it here. ********* personal stuff , totally allowed to be skipped********** mmm...it's about half a year now since i broke up from my last boyfriend. it 's kind of long time but on the other hand...he hurt me so bad i don't dare to start new relationship just yet. and i sort of like to be alone. at least it's far more better to sit and watch the sunset all by yourself than with a guy who can insult you just like that, without any understandable reason. it was wonderful in the beginning though..he seemed to care and had this look in his eyes.you know. i thought it meant something. but then, few months later he started to become really nasty and say these things out of thin air. like i would say something like.. -"ooh, look at this butterfly on this cornflower, isn't it beautiful?" him: -gosh, you're so childish and stupid. what's there to care for? or -"would you hug me please i'm cold and i'd like to feel your hands around me?" "i can't i'm busy right now. put your stupid cardigan on, girl." it went on like that for month and a half. i still felt that maybe i was doing something wrong and i became more and more silent. until there was nothing to say really. then i went to Helsinki for half a year and he didn't call me even once. i called him sometimes, he seemed slightly glad once. after when i came back i heard that he had slept with few girls since i was away. i ended it right there. i haven't seen him since January. i'm glad i haven't it's still painful. thank you if you have listened, it meant a lot to me. ********end of personal stuff**************** actually i have a content too. there was a commercial about the support to young families in Estonian tv about half a year ago. and the soundtrack to it was Belle and Sebastians' we rule the school. it was chosen totally because of the melody, i can't think of any other reason. there. i finally let you know, my conscious is clear. have nice autumn days and kick the golden leaves. it's fun and brings smile on your face. much love, ulla p.s. Madeleine, sweetie, i will post your notebook tomorrow, i already packed it. p.p.s. rachel's team is fantastic too. super. p.p.s. much luck to david stankin' on his trip. everything will go better that you thought it will. i'm a true advertiser for my (hopefully) team. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mecurtin at xxx.ca Tue Oct 23 06:19:37 2001 From: mecurtin at xxx.ca (M.E. Curtin) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:19:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Passive Periphrastic Never Looked So Good Message-ID: <3BD4FDE9.4A17314E@uwo.ca> R is for Rachel A is for achel C is for chel H is for hel E is for el L is for l Yes, kids, that masterpiece of modern language was something I came up with when my friend, upon hearing the news that, as Best Man, he had to direct his speech to the bride, was at a loss for words. I find it quite topical now. Alas, I have no teamable name, but I don't think I should join the Rachel side, because that's what everyone else is doing. On the other hand, I'm too spineless to be a Will, so I'll just stay in the Switzerland of Marybeth. Are you wondering why I'm writing? I don't blame you. The fact is, I have to have a pastiche written for tomorrow at 9:00am. Unfortunately, it's 1:00am and I have no pastiche. I do have an idea, though, but it's really only driven by spite. I want to imitate Alice Munro, interminable harpy that she is. I'm thinking of simply photocopying one of her stories as is and seeing if my Prof. notices. The point of all this being, of course, that the list is once again my form of procrastination. On another note, does anyone know much about And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead? I'm going to see them tomorrow, but I only know a few songs. You see, round these parts there aren't many bands that dare to tread, so I tend to go to shows just for the sake of feeling in the loop. I'm a sad creature, but that's the way it is. It might also explain my zeal to see The (International) Noise Conspiracy, not so much for the music but more for the fact that I can't believe they're playing in London (but not THAT London). I should leave you all before I truly corrupt your minds with my lurkerspeak. Sorry guys. However, if, on the very unlikely chance there are other Marybeths (or even Mary Beths), I suppose we could form some sort of partisanal faction. Maybe we could be the League of Bi-Partite Names. Think about it, Mary Anne, Mary Jane, Mary Kate, etc., etc......... Yours, randomly, Marybeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 08:19:31 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:19:31 Subject: Sinister: WARNING: nerd alert. Indie superteam? Animate them with nitrate! Message-ID: Indie superteams? My team of cartoon characters will kick your ass! 3-4-3 is the formation. ________________________________________________________________________ GOALIE: Spider-man. Might have been Reed Richards (a.k.a Mr Fantastic out of Fantastic Four), but he's getting old. DEFENCE: -Nightcrawler from X-men. That abitility to teleport will come in handy, since the other defenders aren't too quick. -Thing out of Fantastic Four. A bit like Jaap Stam, ain't he? -Blob out of Freedom Force. No-one, and I mean no-one will run past him. MIDFIELD: -Conan The Barbarian. With that long hair of his he reminds me of Emmanuel Petit. -Donald Duck. With his temper he'd be the Roy Keane of our team. Red card mania! -Zapp Brannigan out of Futurama. Can make a move on the ladies, so I reckon he's good with the ball(s) too. -Spock (from the animated Star Trek- series). The brains of this team. Obviously. ATTACK: -Wonder Woman. Nice chest and great hair that will hopefully distract their goalie. -Colossus out of X-men. Big, tall fellow. Always good when there's a corner kick. -2D out of Gorillaz. I fucking hate Gorillaz, but since 2D = Damon Albarn, I quess he's good with the ball. Pippo Inzaghi of our team: Whenever someone touches Inzaghi, he falls down and complains about it to the referee. Damon can write an album about how he was mistreated inside the penaltybox (hello, Justine of Elastica!). And here's the team: http://www.activision.com/games/spiderman/ http://www.x-men.com/comics/bios/bio_nightcrawler.htm http://www.fantastic-four.nl/TheThingeng.html http://www.x-men.com/comics/bios/bio_blob.htm http://users.cnmnetwork.com/~hiestand/images/conan3.jpg http://www.bcdb.com/bcdb/detailed.cgi?film=8 http://www.futuramauk.co.uk/bios-zapp.htm http://izan.simplenet.com/illspock.htm http://wonderwoman.simplenet.com/ http://www.x-men.com/comics/bios/bio_colossus.htm http://www.multimania.com/gorillazim/pics/01/p01.JPG ______________________________________________________________________ -JF ps: J, she likes it when you stick your finger inside. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 09:50:40 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:50:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: WAP WAP WAP Message-ID: Hello sinister... I just used my WAP phone to look at the last 5 lovely posts on my phone. Ok so it cost me 10p a minute but that I suppose is the price of dedication. They all looked fine and it's by far and away the most interesting thing that I have used wap for. All of this talk about rachels, wills etc makes me dizzy. It's very confusing. I can't be bothered to post a fantasy indie team but it would mostly consist of Mogwai because they are very hard Scots so wil have the psychological edge over most teams from the off Does anyone like Andrew WK? i think he sounds like Boston with Bryan May on lead guitar duties. Not nice or big or clever. He is not a million miles removed from Bon Jovi either. anyway..back to the statute books p a u l _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 13:46:07 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:46:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I fought with a boar Message-ID: <002401c15bc0$d833b3c0$9efdbdac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, I got mugged yesterday. My hand got cut wide open and then got robbed. I was walking down a dark corridor, and he offered to sell me warez, wrapped up inside an aluminium foil. I was going to refuse, but he was very insistent. I gave in, and paid him 30. He slowly took the foil out of his pocket, but just as he was handing it to me, he changed his mind. He decided that 30 just wasn't good enough, I tried to take it off his hands but his grasp was very strong. I was angry, I punched him on the chest a few many times, but he was built like solid steel, and rather than letting it go his grip just got tighter. Finally, as a desperate last throw of the dice I decided to try and wrestle him onto the ground, I grabbed hold of him. I never knew, I never knew the jacket he wore, the back of the jacket he wore was full of sharp razor blades, all I felt as I grappled his back was this excruciating pain on each one of my fingers. I let go, every inch of my hand was bleeding, I bled, I had lost. He held his cherished goods up high like a boxer's championship belt. I sighed, and walked away, money murdered, dignity dismantled, fingers filleted. I think I am the first person ever to have been mugged by a vending machine. I watched Atomic Kittens on CD:UK last weekend, I couldn't help but noticed that in one of their songs (the name escapes me), they managed to use over 30 consecutive single syllable words during a chorus. A literary masterpiece, or did they just copy Richard Gillanders? Thank you everyone who helped me expand my knowledge on poo, that was good shit. I must have been returded to forget such great words as "cack"! Which brings on the subject.. John Maxwell said: >>thereÂ’s so much poo in our existence too, which canÂ’t be ignored, but there is always light at the end of the tunnel.<< ...unless you have the piles. (sorry I'll stop now) Still getting over losing a fight with an inanimate object. Sore Creams and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 16:07:34 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:07:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I fought with a boar Message-ID: Utter list abuse meets internet abuse... Ken Chu said: "I think I am the first person ever to have been mugged by a vending machine." Yes, he is unique in almost every other way but this. Ken, you're not alone: http://www.deathbyvendingmachine.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 17:32:45 2001 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: 23 Oct 2001 16:32:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the person you were.....I know you're not her.......she just couldn't stay Message-ID: <20011023163245.767.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From opaline_moon at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 17:45:29 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: one second burns for a million years.... Message-ID: <20011023164529.56360.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> hey-lo. today has been up and down, mainly up. it was a very good morning full of coffee and sunlight and list crushes.....*wink wink, you know who you are* until my brother called me and got a bit angry with me. you see, i live with his brother-in-law, who's name is ballad. now ballad is a nice enough person, a bit on the sloppy side, but thats no big deal. he does have some strange personality quirks that i've noticed: he doesnt communicate well at all. meaning that if he is hurt or offended by something you've done, he wont tell you, he'll just start acting really strange. anyway, long story short: the other night we're just sitting around talking and i happen to mention that ezra (my brother) isnt very happy living in chamberlain near his in-laws, cause he doesnt get along with his wifes dad and her whole family is in that small town and its such a clan-like atmosphere. now the whole time i'm saying this it just isnt occurring to me that i'm talking about HIS DAD, and HIS FAMILY, so i just continue saying how ezra is fed up living around those crazy people and so on..(cause they really ARE weird people). and of course he doesnt act like he's offended or anything (i really wasnt very mean or anything, just honest) he just laughs and agrees. so this morning my brother calls up and asks me if i said anything to ballad at all, and i said yeah, i told what i said and he got VERY mad at me....apparently his wifes dad is really mad at him, and her mom is crying about it, thinking that ezra hates them all and now about half the town hates him......all because of some half-hearted comments i said while i was half-drunk! now my brother is my best friend in the world and he forgave me after i apologized for about 30 minutes, vowing to repair the damage (i dont know exactly how i can yet) but i'm just so mad at myself for being so stupid...... rest assured i wont make the same mistake twice. *sigh* ----raw aka caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mozzystar at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 17:58:35 2001 From: mozzystar at xxx.com (Tina Coffield) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Introduction Message-ID: <20011023165835.52485.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. I'm fresh out of the nursery and I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Tina, I'm 24. Does that make me one of the "older" people on the list? I hope not. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I attended three Belle and Sebastian concerts during this recent tour, the two in LA and the 1st night in San Francisco. Which is basically my reason for joining the list, I was dying to talk about the shows. Of course, now that I'm finally out of the nursery it seems like old news, but I'll talk anyway. The shows were amazing! I'm sure you've all read the reviews, so I'll spare you mine. I'll just sum up my experience in a few sentences. They were my first times seeing B&S. I met Isobel, (hot) Bobbie, Stevie and Stuart. I sang "Take me out to the ball game" (poorly) with Stuart in front thousands of people. I hung out with Stuart and talked about baseball at a bar. I gave stuart a A's baseball cap that he wore during the show. I requested, (and they played!) "Boy With a Thorn in His Side". I got a baseball signed by the whole band. Oh, and B&S played great as well! It was an amazing, thrilling and exciting time. I couldn't have asked for anything better. I took some pictures, I think some of them may be of you. I've scanned them and put them on my web site. The site's nothing fancy, I'm new at this. http://home.earthlink.net/~mozzystars/_wsn/page2.html If I have a picture of you or your sister's roommate's best friend's boyfriend and you would like a copy, please let me know, I'd be happy to send you a copy. The scans didn't come out so well (again, I'm new at this) but the actual photos came out nicely. E-mail me if you would like to chat. I'd really like to meet other B&S fans, especially ones in the SF Bay Area. Tina ===== "We had eight years of peace and look what it got us, nothing." -Bush Supporter responding to anti-war protest __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jtboyko at xxx.ca Tue Oct 23 20:41:58 2001 From: jtboyko at xxx.ca (sSqnkX) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: I suppose an introduction? Message-ID: <20011023194158.61833.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. I received a message saying that I could post, and thus here I am, posting. I'm Jason. I'm from Ottawa, Canada. I'm, oh, about 24 years of age, so Tina, we're at least the same age, so we can be old together, if we're old at all. Anyways. I have nothing very important to say, I got into B&S ages ago, and have yet to see them live, as I lived in a place where they never were even near until a few months ago, and I have no idea if they ever have played in Ottawa here, and if they have, I wasn't here yet. I'm also a musician, although not at all similar to any artist I've ever even heard mentioned on the list so far. But that's irrelevant. Anyways, just an introduction, I suppose. Perhaps see you on #sinister sometime, if I end up there again anytime soon. -jason _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Tue Oct 23 23:20:44 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:20:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: WARNING: nerd alert. Indie superteam? Animate them with nitrate! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011023152044.O22856@24-205-57-185.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com> On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:19:31AM +0000, jarkko frantila wrote: > GOALIE: Spider-man. Might have been Reed Richards (a.k.a Mr Fantastic out of > Fantastic Four), but he's getting old. [ ... ] > And here's the team: > http://www.activision.com/games/spiderman/ Fun Sinister fact: I am working on the Gamecube version of the Spiderman game at this very moment. Let me know if you can think of any clever cheat codes. As a somewhat Sinister/B&S/music related note, I saw three bands this past week. The Breeders played the Troubadour, and it was a great show with the new East LA line-up, Kelly all appropriately frumpy, and everyone smoking and drinking beers during the set. Saturday night was Jon Spencer's Blues Explosion with Unwound and the Melvins. I doubt the latter two bands are very much up most of the list's alley, but JSBX should appeal to everyone, absolutely amazing stuff. Great show, even had the theremin up on stage, played a ton of new material, too. As the .sig indicates, today's listening selection is Sleater-Kinney, Dig Me Out. Carrie Brownstein is my new crush (yes, I know there's no hope), and I love her sound so much I want to buy a Rickenbacker 360. m. -- "We are not here to fuck the band, we are the band." -- Corin Tucker, Sleater-Kinney +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougiefish at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 01:46:58 2001 From: dougiefish at xxx.com (erin) Date: 24 Oct 2001 00:46:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I want to be sinister... Message-ID: <20011024004658.16932.qmail@fancyfeast.chek.com> ...because saying "I'm sinister" is a really spif' thing to be able to say. This is my first post, so as such it'll be short and more of a little wave hello than anything worth reading. On a totally dischordant note, I'll always remember the Sinister ML as the place I first heard about Sept. 11. (I'd been watching the History channel in the morning - they didn't cut into programming at all - before checking my email, so I was quite confused by the Sinister mails regarding the incident) That's not a particularly auspicious start, but the intervening month and a half of lurking have been quite pleasant. I suppose that's it... Oh, and I live in Seattle now although I'm a Californian by trade. Sunny Days! Erin _____________________________________________________________ Are you lazy? Get your Free E-mail at http://www.Lazymail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pharkle at xxx.de Wed Oct 24 01:58:17 2001 From: pharkle at xxx.de (pharkle) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:58:17 -0400 Subject: Sinister: New york city is heaven for rockers In-Reply-To: <200110220934.KAA19074@missprint.org> Message-ID: Hey, sorry i am a long-time lurker and my first chime in is not B&S-related, but i figured some of you would have some interest in this. Our radio station is putting on a show for Boyracer, Huon, the Sisterhood of Convoluted Thinkers, and the Units on October 30th, 2001. This all takes place in friendly New York, NY, on the upper west side of manhattan at Barnard College/Columbia University. There will be beer, there will be costumes, there will be halloween in general. You get all this for a mere $7 ($5 if you're a student somewhere), and you get to support WBAR, a fucking cool, non-commercial, free-form, uncensored college radio station. What is not to like? more information is at www.wbar.org, and you can listen to the station from there too. cheers, -alex www.wbar.org +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 04:20:05 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:20:05 Subject: Sinister: CA: lif, or nia. Message-ID: Hey. I've just gotten back from my trip today. I took the train agian. It seemed rather long. You see, I go from bus, to train, to bus again. The first bus is about 2 hours the train is about 6-7 hours and the second bus is another 2 hours. jesus. There was some prime human trash on the bus today. I think she just got out of prison and she was really loud and obviously did not care weather anyone heard what she was saying. The guy she was flirting with was just as gross, I think they attempted to "do it" in the bathroom but kept hitting the emergency button and they came out seperately and guy couldn't fix his zipper. I didn't listen to one single shred of music while traviling today. I didn't feel like it. I read a lot though. My head swims and thoughts come in and out like tap water when sitting alone on the train. I try to sleep but always get a crook in my neck so I don't sleep for very long. The funny thing about California is that most of it is farm land. If you ever go through the San Juaquin valley, it is nothing but farm land. Farms as far as your eye can see, you see nothing but farms. Cotton, rice, strawberries, wallnuts, almonds, oil, everything. Sometimes I look and it and see this little diserted towns and get depressed about it and then sometimes I think it's beautiful because what would we eat? what would we wear? It's always funny to ride the train and see the back roads and "behinds" of towns. There is always any number of teenagers downing as many beers as they can down at the tracks. You see junk yards, peoples back yards, cows having sex. God, I'm tired and still need to write a paper. viva la will's! Tim The William _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Wed Oct 24 07:11:57 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (aale002 at xxx.nz) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:11:57 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: "I am un chien andalusia..." Message-ID: <1003990317.3bd7ad2d7ff61@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> Hey, all youse freaky peoples, Well, nothing much is happening here, so I thought I'd share the boringness of my life with everyone. I have another essay to write by Friday, on philosophical approaches to the laws of nature (ever tried to _define_ what a law of nature is? Sheesh.) Ernie Sanches said: "Andre, I enjoyed your New Zealand dream team list, but where is Martin Phillips? He would clearly be the goal scorer on my dream team, as IÂ’ve recently become obsessed with the Chills and believe that they are the best New Zealand band." Actually, I had him as captain of my first team, but then I realised that he's not much of a team player, and everyone else (particularly Andrew Brough and Shayne Carter) would probably end up killing him, or something. There's an old joke about how you could count the people in Dunedin who _haven't_ been in the Chills on one hand....:) I also wanted to include a lot of the other old soldiers, like David Kilgour and Andrew Fagan, but decided they might end up breaking a hip or becoming incontinent; which would not be a good thing, given that they're playing for the greater glory of New Zealand Aotearoa. Although they'd _still_ be better than the Kingz (don't worry if you didn't get that one-it's not half as funny as it should be....) Thanks to everyone that's responded to my first post, Johan and Madeline, and to all those that have welcomed me in #sinister. (Sorry I've been a little distracted and random there-well, I'm like that anyways, but-chatting at work isn't exactly encouraged, so I have to pretend to be doing real work every time someone walks into the room....:)) Johan, "susurrus" is the sound a gentle brook or a quiet crowd makes. :) I've loved that word since the first time I heard it...:) Have you ever thought, though, that if we have _enough_ in common, we might actually be the same person? (I've just been reading an artile on personal identity...grrrrr.) Well, it's official-I hate my flat. My two flatmates, are sooo different from me, it's not even slightly amusing (not even in a grim, gallows-humour kind of way.)I have three flatmates, supposedly, but flattie number three, Jess, while being a very good friend of mine (and the girlfriend of one of my best friends) is almost never at home, so she can't really make things better. Brett, who is an Australian and a chemical engineer, who voted for John Banks, and who is planning to head back to Oz to do an MBA, still can't contain a sneer every time we talk about what I study. He can't even begin to imagine why someone would want to study something as "useless" as philosophy, let alone want to make a career of it. But he likes the Corrs, so I feel like I have that over him. Jono, the other flattie, fits the computer nerd stereotype so precisely that he's beginning to scare me. He's even got the donkey bray laugh, the wierd obsession with Sarah Michelle Gellar and the diet of Kettle Chips, red liquorice and Coke (straight from a two-litre bottle! Lord help me...:)) I have nothing against nerds in general-crikey, I'm almost half one myself (he says, as he pushes aside his Dungeons & Dragons rulebooks....) but there's only so much lattitude I can allow. I simply _can't_ watch any TV when he's in the room, because I know the laugh will distract me from any enjoyment I might feel. What's worse is, he _claps_ when he laughs-it's obviously a habit, because he does it even when Brett and I are sleeping (or trying to). Grrrrr. It's not so bad that they're different from me. I could easily live with that. It's that they treat me as though I'm somehow less important than they are to everyday life in the flat. After Mia, the flattie that Jess replaced left, I became the only student there (Jono works[!] as an advertising manager for Time magazine, NZ [!]) and gradually, that's meant that I am to be viewed with a general suspicion. Not about anything specific, of course (because there's nothing that's been done) but...well, there's a _tension_ when I'm in a room with one or both of them, now; a silly, quiet tension that makes absolutely no sense. I feel like I've done something, and consequently end up feeling absurdly guilty. And my friends (including Jess's boyfriend, Ivan the Crazy Croat) don't come around anymore, because they get made to feel the same way- and heaven forbid if any of us have been out on the town..... Well, only a little while longer, and I'll be through exams. Then I can move out and find a nice, comfy flat. Eck. I didn't intend this to be a moan-fest. It was the Pixies that made me do it, I swear! Or the Red Bull..... Oh, well, three weeks and I can start living again. Maybe I can finally ask Sexy Dark Eyed Pink Princess Girl out after that..... Right-o, that's me. Hope y'all are Good Little Vegetarian Ninja Foxes like I'm trying to be. Cunning Andre +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 12:17:43 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: band names? chocolate makes the world go round(er) Message-ID: <20011024111743.9313.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> It dawned on me last night when I got home from work that I haven�t written an awful lot for you in recent months. I was pleasantly surprised to receive a package, with �Fragile �written all over it. Wondering what it could be, that might be sensitive to heat and dropping and things, I opened it with curiosity. The package was from Nik O, who had sent me more than enough troika chocolate bars to satisfy a girl for a year and CDs of belle and Sebastian. Sadly, I�m trying to cut down on chocolate and loose some of my podge that has accumulated around my middle ever since I moved home again and my mum started feeding me properly. The troika�s were all too much to resist. I�ll just have to give up savoury food instead. Thank you Nik O. Life in Berryland has been a mixture of late. I went to Norwich to visit some uni pals for my 23rd birthday, and realised I really do miss Norwich and the lazy life of a student (mine was lazy at least). I�ve been working for the past ooooh, four or five weeks for a financial company out in the Gyle at Edinburgh on all sorts of bits and pieces. It�s a temping job at the moment, until I decide what I want to do. I�ve been getting loads of packages recently with demos and stuff inside from bands wanting me to review them for my fanzine. Already into the third issue, and got some interviews with John Upchurch, The Clean, Aether Flux and Mark Jones from Jeepster Records. We�ve decided to make the cover a different colour for every issue. Its very simple. There�s no pictures on the front, or contents lists or anything. Just the name of the fanzine written across it diagonally. The first issue was yellow, the second was red, and I think the third is going to be green. I liked the red one best so far. I�ve been feeling fairly tired recently and stressed out a bit. Lots of reasons, and none of them due to the demon drink, Honest Mummy. I got a cool tremelo pedal for my guitar for my birthday. I�m still carrying on with it, and making up little tunes. Until I realised recently that Kings Of Convience already have them. And June of 44. Oh well. So much for being original. Boyfiend and I have been chatting late into the night about the idea of forming a band together. Sitting on the phone, we decided to think up names. He wanted Indian War Whip which is from some song by someone. But I keep forgetting it and calling it Wicked Indian Whatever instead. And if I can�t remember it, what chance has anyone else got? And if people ask if I was in a band, then how could I say �I am, but I can�t remember what we are called�??? So we went through song names. My favourite was Velouria by the Pixies. Then we went onto making up names using magnetic poetry. I�d wiggle my finger in the air and when boyfiend said �Stop�, I�d hit the board and see what word I picked. We had some amusing ones. �Death Man� �Repulsive Smell� �Puppy Juice� and �Pant Lust� which we thought we all highly amusing. But boyfiend got bored of that game long before I did and wouldn�t play anymore. Spoil sport. I've not had much access to my e mail recently, but all that changed last night. My dad gave me a �2000 laptop cos he bought a new one. Its only a year old, but very cool. I had been trying to save up for one, but hey, a freebie works for me. On the condition that I don't delete any of his files, I keep my files seperate from his, and if his new one breaks down, then he can use this one as a back up. Anyway, better get back to work. Ooh, lunch time! :) Love Idleberry xxxxxxxx ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 21:13:02 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:13:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my wandering days are over... part 1 Message-ID: Hey you lovelies! So I have returned to Greece after 21 days drifting across the UK, having innumerable pints with several of you lot. It�s weird being back. I thought I�d be really tired. But I�m anxious. To do things, or for things to be done, to change. I�ve changed, I think. And things are definitely different here. I feel like I�ve been living in some alternate universe for the past three weeks. It seemed unreal. Yet natural. And for some reason I feel I must document it all for you. I don�t know why. Well, some of it is entertaining I suppose. A glimpse into what some of these faceless names are really like, perhaps. I�m afraid three weeks worth of my misadventures will take forever to recount. I considered simply posting a link to journal entries that I would put up on my personal web site, but quickly decided against that, since my family reads that and I can�t possibly be honest with them nosing around. Not that I will be completely honest with you lot either, because you are now involved. I will post in parts, I think, beginning with a synopsis with LISTS, which everyone appreciates, I think, in today�s low attention span world, and a link to PHOTOS hidden within to make you read at least halfway through. Evil, eh? Who I met (it reads like a mafia line-up, don�t it?): * = photographic evidence Paul �gingerfox� Field * Nicholas �passant� Horne * Ken �the juggler� Chu Dafyd Strange * James � * Elenita and her dancing roomie whose name I forget but boy could he move Will �gneissy� Salt * Jeremy �breams� Tweddle * Princess Honey Duchess Linda Sweetie * Richard Gillanders * Gavin �king of partick� Dunbar, Jo and Lynn Rachel �sunnyset� Ally �the lad� Cook * Carey * Calumn * Gordon �rouss� Joss Dudley Yokojo Sarahluv �sleepy� Kev Bishop * Madeline �lolly� McNeil * Stoo and his Sheffield possee: Kaytee, Mikey, Rhys and a boy named Nigel Lucy, Chris and Jim with purple trousers? My longtime pen pal and sometimes listee Ian Thompson Sightings: Harry London Martin My contributions: Two cartons of cigarettes Four bottles of Lesbian ouzo Several cheesy postcards Home fries Homemade pasta sauce Lots of toast and honey (and some lemon curd) A fantastic new caramelized banana sauce concoction I made up in London �and of course my stellar company and amusing American accent (with a few choice ghetto saying thrown in for fun) Three weeks and several hundred dollars later I returned with: 14 new CDs 10 new tapes (including a QUALITY hip hop compilation from 10 years ago and a double cassette set of 1980s hits that features Bon Jovi alongside Aretha Franklin; not itemized to avoid wholesale ridicule) 14 new books (itemized list to follow) 1 pair new strappy brown GIRLIE shows with heels 1 bright red track sweatshirt/cardigan thingie and 1 pale yellow terry cloth v-neck collared shirt, both circa 1970 or thereabouts 1 jar of lemon curd 1 jack daniels whiskey glass 30 digital photos (censored collection available online at: www.geocities.com/dahling007/photos6.htm (takes forever to load) or at http://photos.yahoo.com/dahling 007, album �sinister�) 1 very sore throat �and tons of new friends. Awwww Since I know there are many fine librarian and book buffs among you who are itching to know titles, here they are. (Also, if anyone else wants to start a book group, drop me a line. It might actually force me to read them all) Henry James: The Golden Bowl W. Somerset Maugham: Of Human Bondage Hunter S. Thompson: The Great Shark Hunter James Joyce: Ulysses Mona Simpson: A Regular Guy Gabriel Garcia Marquez: News of a Kidnapping Richard Brautigan: Sombero Fallout Hanif Kureishi: The Buddha of Suburbia Alex Garland: The Beach Garrison Keillor: Lake Wobegan Days Alisdair Gray: Lanark: A Life in Four Books Gunter Grass: The Tin Drum Dave Eggers: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius Louise Erdich: The Beet Queen Also, Maddie, aware of the amount of heavy reading I now have before me, generously supplied me with a copy of Valley of the Dolls. And to make my load that much heavier, I stocked up on a bunch of lovely (HEAVY) art books. Piet Mondrian. Mmmm. Highlights: I tasted IrnBru, vodka and Red Bull, a fried Mars bar, Jaffa cakes, tons of chips and cheese, Burger King veggie burgers, weird candy (mint Aero bars = yum!) and lemon curd. I sampled a wide variety of local brews and um� upped my tolerance at least three notches. I sat on the top of a double-decker bus, and rode is several funky old-fashioned black taxis. I got terribly lost with a large green backpack. I went to four gigs - saw Joan of Arse, The Dudley Corporation, the Lucksmiths, Airport Girl, Jonathan Richman and Trembling Blue Stars - and three �indie nights,� including a Gav DJ set, a Mikey DJ set and Track and Field (were any of you there last Friday?). I danced. I got silly drunk. I flew and kicked around a garden and collapsed in a park. I slept with another listee - but no shags, despite rumors to the contrary. I walked in the rain - a lot. I walked along the Thames, admired art, had a mini sinister picnic in a park and discovered conkers. I saw a high-rise with a special continuously moving circuit elevator. I watched a game of pool at 4 a.m. in the stuffy second-floor waiting room of a cab company. I stayed up till 3 a.m. baring my soul - several times. I took unexpected walks in the woods and traipsed happily through mud and fallen autumn leaves. I was attacked by a wooly cow. I challenged two people to Scrabble and lost terribly. I saw Ken do some amazing DDR moves. I was pummeled with pillows and lost a brutal tickle fight. Weird boys tried to pick me up. Others asked me directions. I got no snogs but lots of hugs and cuddles. For a more detailed account, continue to part two. Otherwise, delete the next two posts. ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 21:15:48 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:15:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my wandering days... part 3 Message-ID: Part two� Days 9-21 LEEDS Six hours later, I was in Leeds. KEV met me at the station and we headed immediately to a pub, where we had a pint and a bite to eat and I regaled him with all the gossip. He was really nervous to meet me, but was lovely and we hit it off fine. Then we took a bus to his flat, which was small but really nice and immaculately clean. Impressive. We drank and chatted until late. It was great. Kev is the sweetest thing! The next morning we had toast and went into town. Sat on the top of a double-decker bus for the first time, which was more thrilling than I�d like to admit. Went shopping - bought a few books at a charity shop and a pair of shoes at Shelley�s for 10 pounds - then went to a BAGEL store (it�s crazy the silly things you miss when you�re away from home for 6 months) and had the hottest mustard ever. Eeks! Afterwards we stumbled upon a great vintage clothing store, where I bought a terry cloth shirt and flashy red track cardie. Kev was a fantastic shopping companion. We got back and went grocery shopping for pasta supplies, as well as LIME CHIPS and SALSA. Um, yeah. I got perhaps a little too excited about that. Anyway� we returned to the flat and I made dinner, then settled down to a movie. It was all so cozy and comfortable. Glorious. The next day, Thursday if any of you are actually keeping track, the weather was gorgeous so we headed out for a walk along the canal. Stopped at a wonderful secondhand bookstore along the way, where I bought way too many books. The canal walk was really quite nice. At the end of it, we stumbled across a path and decided to explore. We ended up in on a wide leave-strewn path through the woods and it was beautiful! We lingered a bit before heading back. I took a nap when we returned and Kev snuck out to buy some groceries. When he returned I made home fries, then we settled in for the night with plenty of beer and movies. The next morning I slept in gloriously late. Then I packed my things and we went into town to the bus station to stow my bags and meet MADDIE. The weather was absolutely gorgeous again, so after much hugging and gushing, we headed to a pub with outdoor seating and had a pint. Kev stayed for a bit but then buggered off as we started to squeal and gossip like girls. Poor dear. Maddie was fantastic and so much fun to talk to! We wandered around town, stopping in a few shops. Then it was time to meet Jeremy at the station. He was coming down to go to the Lucksmiths gig that night. At the station, we called Kev and made our way back to his flat, where Jeremy would spend the night. I was to continue on to Sheffield with STOO after the gig. We hung out at Kev�s for a bit, then went back into town to meet Stoo and get a bite to eat. Wasn�t sure if Stoo was getting in at 7 or 8, but we swung by anyway and ran into him and his lovely girlfriend KAYTEE. Stoo was my first ever sinister friend and although I had by this point met dozens of sinister people, it was still strange to finally meet him. At first we were all shy, but we quickly warmed up to each other and both him and Kaytee were so nice!!! The group of us headed into town to another pub with outdoor seating and managed to have one pint before Jeremy and I left to escort Maddie back to the station. It was a bit sad because I felt like I hardly got to spend any time with Maddie, but I was very glad to have seen her at all. We got a quick bite to eat, said goodbye, then returned to the pub. Kev�s friend from work had joined the party and the group of us chatted over more pints before heading off to the club. The gig was great. Jeremy, Kev and Stoo, all huge Lucksmiths fans were ecstatic and chatted with the band afterwards. We watched a bit of the Airport Girls set, then Stoo, Kaytee and I had to leave to catch the last bus to Sheffield. SHEFFIELD The ride was brutal; only 50 minutes, but I was so exhausted and this couple sitting in front of me were so obnoxious. We arrived at about 2 a.m., possibly the worst hour on a Friday night/Saturday morning, since everyone under the age of 25 was heading out of clubs trying to catch a taxi home. We walked halfway to Stoo�s flat, half an hour away, uphill, before catching a cab. When we finally arrived, I was so tired I collapsed on the bed Stoo pointed me to and fell immediately into a deep sleep. When I woke up the next day at 10, I had to search for a bathroom and living room. Luckily, they weren�t too difficult to find. I hung out in the living room and caught up on journal writing until Stoo stumbled into the kitchen and made me some toast - with lemon curd. Yum. Stoo and I hung out in his room. I admired his startingly enormous Pokemon collection, and we listened to music and chatted for a few hours before heading into town to meet Kaytee and get some lunch. We went to a pub and then to a few record shops, running into a sweet young listee named NIGEL. Downtown Sheffield was quite lovely, I thought, although the weather wasn�t the best so we didn�t do too much exploring. We chatted about Seinfeld all the way home and watched a few episodes on video when we got home. Then we headed out again, to a pub owned by a member of Pulp - the Washington I think it was called. It seemed like your average local pub, with all sorts of wacky characters and bartenders, but there were also a bunch of trendy kids. We met up with another Katie (all of the girlfriends of Stoo�s friends are named Kate, oddly) who was quite nice. She was the girlfriend of MIKEY, who we were to see DJ�ing later at a club at the Center for Music. Two other girls joined us, then a wacky guy who was quite amusing, and a bunch of other boys, including Stoo�s best friend RHYS. After a few pints, Stoo, Katie, Kaytee, Rhys and I headed out to the club. When we got there it was nearly empty. Gradually, in odd spurts, the place filled and soon people were dancing. We slowly joined them, dancing selectively to a few songs at first, then full force. Rhys sat out many dances, preferring instead to chat up a cute girl who unfortunately ended up being disturbingly homophobic. I seemed to attract an odd trio of boys who looked like the High Fidelity dorks. One of them managed to teeter across the room, fall on top of me and give me a huge hug. By accident, of course. Right. It was all quite amusing and great fun. Mikey even played a Run DMC song, and for that I am eternally grateful. I was sad to see the music stop at 3 a.m. Afterwards we went to a chippy and slowly made our way home. I had to get up early the next day to catch my bus to London. I got up even earlier than planned, showered and watched some TV. Stoo and I hung out in his room a little longer before having to call a taxi and go to the station. By the time I left, it seemed like I had been there a lot longer than I actually had. It had been great. I gave Stoo a giant hug and set off for London. LONDON Another four-hour ride. Not so bad, however, and I was able to navigate my way from Victoria to Paul�s new flat like a pro. He was suitably impressed, of course. I talked non-stop for nearly an hour, telling him about all the people I�d met and things I�d done and clarified rumors (tsk tsk, #sinister). Paul and Nicholas had moved into a new flat together with Paul�s former roommate Verity while I was gone and it was absolutely STUNNING. On the sixth floor of a building in North London, the view was spectacular, from every window. The furniture was also fab. I dropped my things in the living room that was to become my home for the next seven days and Paul hurriedly assembled dinner before we had to rush out to meet Jeremy in Shepard�s Bush for yet another Lucksmiths show, this time with Jonathan Richman. Yay! It would be just like home (Boston area for those who do not know me). We got to the venue, which was HUGE, and sat down to chat for a bit before the show began. It was a terrific show and I was so giddy I bounced the whole way through. Jonathan is always fantastic, especially when he sways his hips and although he didn�t play my favorite song (�Bank Teller�) he did play �Vampire Girl� and �I Went Dancing in a Lesbian Bar� and lots of other great songs. On our way back to the tube, we ran into LUCY and two listees named CHRIS and JIM who I did not know. We walked along together and sat together on the tube. Then Paul and I said goodbye to Jeremy and made plans to see him the next day. We returned to the flat, stayed up a bit watching TV with Nicholas and Verity, then went to bed. Met up with Jeremy the next afternoon. We walked around Soho, stopping in a few record stores and at a caf� to have a bite to eat and escape the rain. Then we went to a nearby pub and had a pint before Paul left to go to class. Jeremy and I lingered a little longer at the pub then walked Oxford Street, popping into a few stores to avoid the pressing rush hour crowd, then going to a cinema to watch a cheesy film. Then we said our goodbyes - Jeremy was on his way to the States to see the esteemed Ms. Laura Llew. I rushed back to beat Paul home, since I had his keys, and met him halfway up the hill to the flat. We walked to a shop to buy some wine and pretzels then headed home, where we watched a video he had just bought. The next day, Paul started his new job so I was left alone to idle about. I ventured out to an Internet caf� to finally buy my return ticket home - I decided to stay until at least Friday to see a Trembling Blue Stars show and hopefully go out dancing. I booked tickets for Monday. On the way back I went to a vegetable stand and bought the ingredients for a Greek garlic dip I had promised to make for Paul. The dip was ready by the time Paul and Nicholas came back and we spent another night in. Afterwards, I challenged the boys to a game of Trivial Pursuit. I didn�t do too badly, actually, amazingly. Nick won, and Paul and I had a face-off, which I won by guessing Michael Jackson on some obscure pop salary question. Wednesday, I headed back into the city to finish seeing the Tate Modern and visit the museum gift shop. I bought two books and another six at a nearby secondhand art book shop. It was a heavy load. When Paul got back, we ordered curry and watched football. It was my very first curry tasting. Not so bad. Thursday, I headed into the city to meet Paul for dinner a brief shopping expedition. We arranged to meet at Leicester Square. I got there a bit early and wandered around for a bit, stopping at an overpriced caf� to sip hot chocolate and watch tourists. We didn�t actually do much shopping since Paul was quite tired after his third day at work, and opted to return to the Highgate area for dinner. We ended up at a pub just around the corner from the flat and had a long dinner while a football match blared overhead. We swung by an off-license on the way back and bought beer and groceries. Then we joined Nicholas and watched a movie, followed by a game of Scrabble. I was defeated yet again. Embarassing. Friday was crazy. I met Nick near his office and we had lunch together at a posh little caf� full of businessmen in suits eating oysters. It made me giggle a bit. Afterwards, I returned to Leicester Square to see a matinee of Hedwig and the Angry Itch. Stellar! Returned to the flat, hung out with Nicholas a bit and made him a sandwich dinner. When Paul got home, we ordered pizza and scarfed it down quickly before heading out to the club to see TBS. We left an hour early but still ended up being late. We met up with Nicholas again inside. He had come with two girls - Kate and Kay, I believe - and a quiet boy named James, who was wearing a suit with a sheriff�s badge. The band members took turns singing as they played a set of old Sarah Records songs then they took a break before returning officially as Trembling Blue Stars. It was so lovely! Paul and I snuck out to the stairwell for a breath of fresh air between sets and watched people go by. Saw the Sarah Records guy and other minor indie celebs. After the show we hung around hoping there would be a Strangefruit dance night to follow. But instead everyone was directed to Track and Field. Nick�s crew joined us as we made our way through the rain to the tube stop and the Betsey Trotwood. There, Paul ran into Elena�s roomie, whose name I cannot remember for the life of me. He was super friendly however and later tore up the dance floor. Paul and I hung out with him for awhile at the bar, then headed upstairs. It was packed and smouldering hot. There was hardly room to dance. We hung out for a bit squished against a tiny bit of wall space between doors, waiting to be enticed onto the dance floor. Paul chatted briefly with a guy who looked remarkably like MARTIN, but I wasn�t introduced. I suspect other listees were there too, but I didn�t know them. Eventually, we gave up and decided to look for Nicholas. We found him in the basement, where another DJ was playing 60s pop and soul. There was much more room down there, and I convinced Kay to join me on the dance floor for a particularly jangly song. Eventually, everyone was enticed onto the dance floor for a few songs. It was terrific. There was less than an hour left at this point so we decided to venture back upstairs, hoping it had cleared a bit. It hadn�t. But the music was so great we didn�t care. We squished onto the dance floor and jumped around until closing. Then we oozed out of the hot club onto the cold, wet street and tried to find a way to get Kate, Kay and James home. We wandered for a bit in the rain, hoping to stumble across an appropriate bus stop. Eventually we gave up and found a taxi company. We ventured into the second floor into the dingy waiting room and Paul and Nicholas headed directly to a pool table placed precariously on slats of wood in the center of the room and cued up as if it was completely normal, while we looked on in fixed stares of fatigue. It must have been about 4 a.m. at this point and the whole thing was a bit surreal. Three games later, we were in a taxi home. We all slept in rather late the next day, except me, of course. I got up insanely early yet again, had some toast and read a book waiting for the boys to get up so I could make them an enormous breakfast. I made home fries, eggs and French toast with a caramelized banana sauce I threw together randomly that ended up being fantastically yummy. The phone/cable guy came while we were eating, and we spent the rest of the afternoon playing with their new digital cable system. Nicholas headed out on a mission to buy a suit and Paul and I headed out to the internet caf� and for a bite to eat before settling in for the evening to watch Deliverance on TV. Well, that was the plan. But while at the internet caf�, I ran into Ken on #sinister and made spur of the moment plans to meet him for dinner and DDR. Crazy! I didn�t even have enough time to go home and change (I was practically in pajamas). But it didn�t matter. I headed to Piccadilly Circus and sat by the statue for about half an hour waiting for Ken. The place was packed with tourists and shady characters, one of whom was determined to make my acquaintance. Scary. I managed to ignore him long enough, and finally spotted Ken. We headed to Chinatown and went to a random little restaurant there. I headed directly to the loo, which was more than an adventure than it should have been. First, I had to walk through the kitchen. Then I hung a left and walked straight into another room where a bunch of paramedics were working on a customer who had apparently passed out or had a heart attack or something. He seemed to be all right, and people carried on around him as if nothing had happened. I continued to the bathroom, and had to pause on the way back as they tried to get him outside to an ambulance, long enough to overhear the man�s wife tell the paramedics they hadn�t eaten yet when he collapsed. Phew. The rest of the meal was pretty uneventful, thankfully. Afterwards we cut through the red-light district to an arcade with a DDR machine prominently displayed in the front window. We waited for one guy to finish then Ken pulled me onto the machine, despite my protests. I did attempt to do it, but was hopelessly uncoordinated and had to give up before the first song even ended. Ken continued, however and MY! What impressive moves that boy has! Damn. After DDR we went to a nearby pub where sinister types often gather for karaoke, I�m told. At the time, however, only the finest STEPS tunes were pumping from the stereo system. Classy. We had a pint and chatted until closing. Then we headed back to Piccadilly, stopping at Burger King for an ice cream and a stop at the nastiest bathroom ever. Ew. Then we parted on the tube. Aw. I didn�t even get a photo! Sad. Sunday was rather rainy and cold. I spent most of the day cuddled up on a couch. Nicholas convinced me to go out with him and Paul for lunch and then maybe into the city. The three of us set out with individual umbrellas for Highgate Village and ate at a classy little French caf�, where we were seated next to two obnoxious yet amusing women who were going on about how they wished they lived in a civilized country like France. Hehehe. Afterwards, Paul and I returned home and Nick went out in search of a suit again. Paul and I watched Deliverance (he had taped it while I was out gallivanting with Mr. Chu), followed by a brutal pillow and tickle fight, which I lost. We lounged around a bit more until Nick returned, sporting a lovely new suit, and suggested we go out for one last pint on my last night there. Awww. So we went to the corner pub and had a few pints while trying not to listen to the horrid piped-in Kenny G music. We spent much of the time brainstorming Halloween costumes I think. We got back home and watched some football highlights before Paul went off to bed, wishing me farewell since I would not see him in the morning. Nick and I stayed up late chatting then said goodbye as well. Aw. So sad! And now I�m back. It was so weird going back into #sinister, which was pretty much the same, and seeing all these people I had met, which was different. Eek. And at some point along the trip, when I was in London spending my days alone, I did a lot of thinking and realized it was time for me to get my life here sorted. Strange. I�ve been here less than 48 hours now and already I�ve rearranged my room, landed an interview for a English-teaching job tomorrow, bought a television from some random guy advertising a moving-out sale in the paper, set up a date to meet with a former professor and had a long, honest chat with my roommate about everything. Tomorrow I�m venturing into the city to pay bills, the thought of which previously terrified me, and meet with editors. It�s like something just clicked suddenly and I�m able to deal with the reality of adult life again. It�s like I had reverted into a childlike state before, holing up in my room and spending all my time on #sinister, or reading posts, occasionally writing them. I clung onto sinister as if it was my salvation, as if I wasn�t a viable, social being without it. And oddly, sinister is what set me back on track again. Which means I will likely be abandoning it soon. What an odd thing. Anyway, I�m going to stop analyzing this now and go read a book or something. Big hugs to everyone I met - you were all incredibly wonderful things. What luck! It�s really hard to believe such a nice collection of people could exist in any community, especially an online one, but it does. Crazy. And to the rest of you, to quote my dear soul brotha, Jerry, �be good to yourselves, and each other.� And a reminder: Round trip airfare from London to Athens on easyjet is only 50 pounds!!! (hint hint) MWAH! ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 21:14:52 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:14:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my wandering days.. part 2 Message-ID: Part two� Days 1-9 (for your convenience, run-ins with new people are in caps for easy scanning) LONDON 6 a.m. on a Tuesday morning. 20 degrees Celsius and I�d imagine it would be sunny and beautiful if the sun had risen. Athens. I have been in Greece less than an hour and already a cab driver is trying to rip me off. And pick me up, all at the same time. Amazing. Does he think charging me 3,500 drachmas for a 1,500 drachma ride is going to charm me? I trudge down the familiar brothel-lined street (empty at this hour) to my apartment, weighted down with a 22 kilo bag, exhausted. I run for my bed and collapse. I have been traveling since 8 p.m. I have gotten no sleep. My ears nearly exploded at 30,000 miles above Germany. They still hurt. But instead of sinking into a long sleep, I jump back up again and decide to scrub the kitchen clean. It appears my roommate has decided to explode things on the stove and leave standing coffee dishwater to coagulate in my absence. When that is done, I rearrange furniture. I move my desk from the �study� into a corner of my bedroom. I push the bed up into a corner and shove a makshift bookshelf against the opposite wall. I fill it with all my new books and CDs and tapes, shunning some of my formerly displayed embarrassing titles to the closet. Yay. Now I look somewhat intelligent. Finally, at 9 a.m., I lay down. I wake up at 3 p.m. Things are different now that I have returned after a three-week absence. It�s hard to explain, or understand myself for that matter. When I left, I was depressed, restless, filled with silly fantasies of finding a niche elsewhere and never coming back. I had spent the week prior to departure holed up in my room, trying to finish a magazine assignment but unable to do so, eating nothing but pretzels and jelly beans my parents had recently brought over in mass quantities from the States. I was frustrated and annoyed at my roommate. I was even more annoyed at the anti-social misfit I had somehow become. I had lost sight of who I was and what the hell I was doing here. Maybe this isn�t the best way to start a swinging tale of fun and adventure in sinisterland. But perhaps it explains my motivations for up and flying to a foreign country to spend a few weeks with practical strangers. I left Oct. 1 with no ticket back. I was going to let fate have its way with me. Or maybe I just didn�t want to think about returning, hoping I might not. Silly girl. At any rate, it was quite liberating. So I arrive Oct. 1 after a truly hellish charter flight - four hours cramped between two big men, the blaring sound of propeller and engine sending me into a aural stupor, so exhausted I couldn�t keep my eyes open, yet also could not sleep. Then an hour at customs, only to get on the wrong train into the city and end up halfway to Luton before getting off and waiting another half hour for a delayed train in the other direction. After bragging to Paul about my impeccable sense of direction and knack for finding my way around anywhere, I call him two hours late from Blackfriar�s station. I still have another 20-minute journey on the tube to his place. He doubts I will make it and laughs when I insist I will be there shortly. I finally make it without any further delays to Clapham North, only to realize I lost my ticket somewhere along the way and cannot get out. I walk over and smile sweetly to the attendant, acting lost and dumb and hopelessly American and he just shakes his head and opens the special gate for elderly, disabled and dumb people. I call Paul again and as he comes to retrieve me, it starts to rain and I watch as several people search the ground for cigarette butts. Paul arrives and takes my bag (what a gentleman! Bless him) and doesn�t rail me too much about my farcical attempts at getting there. When we get to his flat, he makes me toast and a Nescafe frappe (Bless him again!) and we just sit for a bit. Eventually we head back out to the city. We go to� um� the trendy place where Rough Trade is located. Oh dear, I�m hopeless. Anyway, we go to Rough Trade. Then we go to a pub for a pint. We sit outside and I tell stories of dead pets and near kidnappings and mafia-owned Tex-Mex restaurants in Bulgaria. After about five sips of beer I am loopy, what with not having slept or eaten much for 36 hours. We walk around a bit, and head for a row of electronics store, where Paul looks for a ghetto blaster for his kitchen (since he is SO secretly ghetto). We also went book shopping and Paul guided me into buying some thick, depressing, intellectual books. We returned home with our purchases and had some pizza. Had a mini Snood tournament. Then we went out to meet NICHOLAS at a nearby pub. Nicholas had a lovely accent and was wearing a suit, much to my delight. I was half expecting a mournful, intimidating character, what with all his thoughtful prose and deep thoughts, but he was really pleasant and easy to get along with. A lovely boy all around really. We played on the pub quiz machine for a bit, then moved onto another trendy pub down the road. We all bought a round, meaning I managed to consume three pints by the time we parted. It may not seem like a lot, but for a girl who gets silly after one half-litre bottle of Amstel and who hasn�t slept, it was a miracle I hadn�t passed out. Paul and I returned to his flat and sat around his living room taking shots of brandy and a painfully strong Greek liquor tsipoura. We stayed up late into the morning talking about life, the universe and everything. In many ways, it was an extension of what we had been writing each other in emails all this time, but for some reason I never expected to be able to voice such things in real life. It was fantastic. Sleep was fantastic as well. There was a slight chill in the air - I had been longing for autumn weather; it was 30 degrees when I left Greece - and it was so comforting to curl up under a duvet and drift in and out of sleep in a lazy way. I woke up early and started reading one of my new books, snuggled up warm while rain gently fell against the window. Mmmm. Then I dressed and got ready to meet DAFYD at Waterloo. I got only a little lost this time, taking a tour of the streets around Waterloo trying to find the main station. Actually, my little walk later worked to my advantage, as I was able to lead the way back to the station and impress Dafyd with my impeccable sense of direction - ha! At least I impressed someone. Dafyd and I met and set off for the Tate Modern, skirting the shores of the Thames. It had stopped raining; the sun was shining and it was perfect weather. I even took off my coat. Daf was adorable and we chatted away. Lovely. The Tate was fantastic, except we only had enough time to visit one floor before returning to Waterloo to pick up JAMES. James was great as well - soft-spoken but not totally shy. And he was practical and decisive and took charge, which was also great since both Daf and I are lost and indecisive. We attempted to go to a pub at the station, but it had stopped serving food, so James suggested we go to Greenwich and have a picnic. So we bought sandwiches and drinks at Boots and followed James to a train. Greenwich was lovely! We headed directly to the park, which was quite beautiful, and climbed to the top of a rather steep little hill to the Royal Observatory. It afforded a nice view of the city, and Daf and James attempted to point out places of interest, but were pretty hopeless as tour guides. No matter. We sat on a bench near the site of many former sinister picnics and talked about (what else) sinister characters and activities. We left as it became chilly and had a pint at a nearby pub. We left at 5:30 - rush hour, perfect - and had to take a random route back, through Canary Wharf - the city�s largest skyscraper. We actually accidentally stumbled into the foyer of the posh hotel there - a group of grungy kids in cords among well-pressed, perfumed suits. We giggled and hurried down some stairs to an underground mall and, eventually, tube station. I got back to Paul�s a bit late, and felt badly since I had promised to cook him dinner and sent him off earlier with a shopping list. I quickly whipped up some pasta and we scarfed it down and ran out to meet Nicholas in Soho. We walked around a bit and found a pub, where we settled down for the evening and had another three pints. I was practically wrecked by the time we left, and even talked politics with Nicholas. Eek! Returned home, had another late-night chat over wine, got up at 11 and had a lazy morning watching trashy American talk shows and bad British soaps. We headed out at 2 to meet Nicholas and ELENA in Camden. We went to a CD store, where I bought some awful cheese tapes, and influenced Nicholas to buy some as well. Then we headed to a pub to get a bite to eat. Elena left just as it started to downpour, and we left shortly afterwards, running to a bank and then to a record company where Paul had an appointment. We went to another pub, chatted about music and took over the jukebox. Two pints later, I set off to meet the notorious KEN CHU at the tube station. Ken was adorable, of course. He was wearing a red sweater and jeans and was practically bouncing as we said hello and hugged. We walked around looking for a place to eat and settled on a pizzeria/restaurant near the pub I had just left. It was actually quite nice, and Ken treated me - what a gentleman! Girls, beware. We chatted and gossiped loads, then went across the street to another pub, where he bought me my first ever vodka and Red Bull. I was pretty drunk at this point, and as a gin and tonic arrived at the table, I could not shut up. We talked about tons of things, some serious, most not. We left as the pub closed and hurried to the station to make sure Ken could catch the train back to Milton Keynes. We promised to meet back up again at the end of the trip for DDR. Ken wanted to walk me all the way home - did I mention what a sweetheart he is yet? - but settled on a phone call when I got back. I forgot to call, of course, so he did. Aww. I harassed a very tired Paul with my silly drunken chatter and insults, but made it up to him the next morning when I made a fantastic batch of home fries (little cubes of potatoes, fried with onions and garlic and oregano and rosemary for non-Yanks). We watched more bad TV until it was time for me to pack up and make my way to King�s Cross to catch a train to Edinburgh. I got there JUST in time. I am the sort of person who is usually early for everything. But now living on the edge, I was, and it was great. EDINBURGH Four hours later, I arrived in Edinburgh. WILL and JEREMY met me at the station and there were big hugs all around. Will and I walked back to his flat. We sat on his couch and chatted for a bit, then went to the supermarket, where I bought ingredients for dinner and breakfast as well as pretzels (Will had never tried them!) and Jaffa cakes (I had never tried them). When we got back I made pasta with homemade tomato sauce and we looked at photos. Then we headed out to a ritzy vodka bar to meet Jeremy. We sat for awhile sipping strong, expensive, White Russians, listening to cheesy music and watching girls in tight trousers and tops trying to pull. I was amused. Will was anxious. Jeremy eventually arrived, a little late, and we quickly left to go to The Last Drop, a less trendy, more comfortable, pub down the street. I had a few pints and began to get quite drunk and very silly. Afterwards we went in search of a chip shop - specifically for a famed fried Mars bar. We found one, sans fried Mars bars, and got chips and cheese instead. It was the beginning of my new addiction. It was quite a hike and I could hardly walk - my vision was blurred and I was quite� bad. We headed back to Will�s after a failed attempt to locate Jeremy�s friend and a short stop at an Australian theme pub where a guy was painting the exterior at 2 a.m. Back at the flat, I got even sillier. There were tickle fights. There were dumb jokes that were somehow hilarious. And poking. It seemed to go on for hours. Eventually, we admitted defeat and went to bed. Will only had one spare bed - a cozy double - so Jeremy and I shared it. That�s all. We stayed up a little longer chatting then both passed out until morning, when all three of us woke up at an ungodly hour - like 8 or something. Both Will and Jeremy were hurting, but for some reason I was happy and chipper and silly as ever. Maybe I was still drunk? Hmm. At any rate, Will and I made toast and honey, watched some television and listened to some music while Jeremy passed out again. Then we dragged him out of bed and ventured into town, stopping at John Lewis department store for an electrical adaptor for my mobile and at a caf� for some coffee and snacks. Then we made the long walk to the botanical gardens. We saw some swans and considered harassing them, but instead just stood and stared for a bit in a weary stupor. Our next stop was a park bench, where we watched clouds making a menacing approach. It eventually spurred us into action. We wandered around a bit, through �copses� and into a beautiful Chinese garden. Along the way, I serenaded the boys with my fabulous rendition of old skool classic �Mona Lisa� by Slick Rick, my favorite rap song ever. I also demonstrated my amazingly high kicking abilities and swayed around the spectacular breezes. Yes, I must have been drunk. As we left the park, I became convinced that I needed a pint. So we headed for a pub in the city and I had a pint and nachos (woo hoo! Something you CANNOT get in Athens). The pint had the opposite effect on me than what I had hoped. I sunk down motionless as a rag doll, so tired I wanted to pass out. I could hardly walk. I decided there was nothing I wanted more than to lay in the grass. I reluctantly went accompanied the boys to the train station information center to make accommodation reservations for Glasgow, then happily waltzed into a nearby park, where I collapsed on the lush green lawn, getting a bit muddy in the process. It was glorious, and perked me right up. Jeremy left shortly afterwards to return to his friend�s house and shower and things. Will and I headed back as well, and I took a long nap, then a shower. The three of us went out again that night, starting at The Last Drop for a pint or two, then to a chippy for a fried Mars bar (I was determined to try one!). This trip was successful. Woo hoo! But the result was not that exciting. I remembered that I don�t particularly like Mars bars in normal form, and it didn�t improve much with batter and melty gooiness. But the chippy guy was very friendly, saying he hoped to see me again soon. Woo hoo! Score! Ha. Afterwards, we went to another pub, an Irish one. We packed it in early and parted with Jeremy. Will and I stayed up pretty late chatting, and I woke up pretty late the next morning. Had breakfast, packed, and went to the train station, where we met Jeremy and headed off to Glasgow. GLASGOW Upon arrival in Glasgow, Jeremy and I took a taxi to the bed and breakfast we stayed at for three days and Will remained at the station to meet SUNNYSET RACHEL. The B+B was great. The owners, Kenny and Ann, were super friendly and very Scottish. They gave us a huge room with a double and single bed and a million chairs and asked if we were in a rock band or something. Oh yes, we look so rawkin! After dropping off our stuff, we headed into the city to The 13th Note Caf�, where Will and Rachel were waiting. We got some veggie burgers and chatted a bit. Rachel was so great! Super quiet but adorable. I was determined to become her friend. GAVIN came in a bit later with Lee from Camera Obscura. He mumbled something and rushed off, a bit stressed and pre-occupied with show arrangements I think. They later came back and joined us for a veggie burger and drinks. Eventually, RICHARD, ALLY and CAREY joined us as well. It was almost overwhelming meeting everyone at once. We switched to a bigger table in the corner near a window, where we sat and chatted for a bit. Ally was very friendly and chatty in an adorable, silly way. Carey was quiet but also friendly. Rich was pretty quiet, but inserted little witty gems into conversation at the appropriate moments. Squished into a corner, I didn�t do much but sit quietly and watch. SWEETIE joined us, annoyed at her travel schedule, but still adorable, and then HONEY and LINDA. Yay! I wasn�t sure they would show, but was very excited they did! Honey was absolutely fabulous. We didn�t get much chance to talk, or even hug, until later, but then we chatted away like birds. Honey was super popular, of course. It was great. We went downstairs for the afternoon Dudley Corporation gig. Met JOSS briefly, who was so sweet and giddy and later did an amazing job drumming for not both Joan of Arse AND Dudley Corp. Amazing really. Didn�t meet DUDLEY until later, and only briefly, to introduce myself basically. The show was pretty nice. I spent half of it on the floor, half of it nursing a beer by myself in the back of the room. Had a HARRY sighting, not realizing it was him till later. Damn. GORDON joined us halfway through the set. Afterwards, we all gathered upstairs again at the same table and had a pint to pass the time before the evening Dudley Corp. gig at the university post-graduate lounge. We headed out in the chill drizzle to get chips and took taxis to the university. We were the first people there. The place was so much posher than I think any of us expected. It was quite nice. We took over a huge table and got cheap beers from the bar. Gordon made some new friends with a handful of international students who came in later. The gig was actually part of an international students welcome party actually. We were given all sorts of free things, like raffle tickets, slippery Jack Daniels coasters and balloons, which we of course inflated and lobbed around, much to the dismay of Honey, Carey and a few unfortunate nearby students, who all braced themselves for horrifying bursting noises. Eventually we moved upstairs to another packed lounge to watch the gig. Will and Rachel had to leave early to catch trains home. CALUMN came in towards the end of the Joan of Arse set. He was as silly and fun as I expected and after the gig was over and Gavin started spinning records he proved to be quite the suave dancer. Oh yes. Calumn, Jeremy, Ally and I all danced like lunatics, taking care not to shake the floor too much, however, because it kept skipping the records. At some point, I found out through Honey that my pen pal of four years, Ian, was there as well. So we went in search of him, and found him downstairs by the doors. It was so random and odd! But great! Turns out, he was actually president of the group that kept up the lounge or something, so had to be off doing things half the time, but we managed to chat in between dancing and errands and made plans to meet up the next day. The music stopped at 2 a.m. so Jeremy and I headed back to the B+B. Woke up early the next day, but dozed on and off for a few hours before heading down alone to breakfast, where Kenny and Ann chatted with me and I discovered lemon curd. Yum. Jeremy came down and we hung around a bit, then Ian came to pick us up at 1. He drove us out to the surrounding countryside, stopping at a park, where we took a lovely long walk through the drizzle. There was live traditional music coming from a nearby outdoor concert and it followed us halfway through the park. Archers crossed our path, and elderly people set up watercolor sets all around. Other couples in boots walked dogs and a few children splashed around. I walked through mud and kicked around leaves. It was so wonderful and reminded me of autumn in New England. We saw some shaggy freakish Highland cows, which Ian and Jeremy insisted I pet. So I reached out to pet the forehead of one particularly large cow, and it whipped its horn around to whack my hand away. Jesus. We later walked to the remains of a castle and back to the car around a pond. Then we headed out to Loch Lommand through some gorgeous countryside and had lunch at an adorable pub in a small village. Ian dropped us off in the center of the city and we met up with Sweetie at the bus station and headed back to the Note. We bought some drinks and chatted. Rich joined us and we attempted to play some songs on the jukebox, but never heard them. Sweetie had to catch a bus, so we walked her to the station through the pouring rain, stopping briefly to buy chips and wine. After seeing her off, we headed to Rich�s new apartment for a game of Scrabble. I had challenged him to a game months ago, building myself up as a Scrabble champ. We sat on the floor, sopping wet, each with our own bottle of wine, listening to Scott Walker swoon away. I started out doing quite well, but I deteriorated rather quickly in ratio with the amount of wine consumed, to the point where I couldn�t concentrate on forming any words at all. And Rich pulled out some terrific words, like JOWLS on a double letter and triple word score, for more than 60 points. Who can compete with that? We played two games before I wholeheartedly acknowledged defeat (an afterthought really, considering I lost by more than 100 points). To his credit, Rich didn�t gloat much. What a guy. Took a taxi back to the B+B. Slept in rather late. Somewhere along the way, America decided to declare war on Afghanistan. I read about it a little in the newspaper at breakfast, but decided not to dwell on it. How responsible of me. We had to switch to a smaller room, and Kenny spent at least 10 minutes raving to me about how fantastic the bed�s springs were, even going so far as to lift the mattress to show me. Oh dear. We headed into the city and met Rich briefly at Avalanche Records, before he had to go to school to do some work. We went to an internet caf�, then headed to the bus station to get a ticket to Leeds, stopping at a few shoe and clothing stores along the way. Then we headed out to the West End for a bite to eat. Sure, why not? We ended up at the Grosvenor Caf�, a required stop for any B&S pilgrim as it is where they met. Ooh. It was like an old-fashioned American diner. I had a fab sandwich, then we headed back into the city center. Gav called and invited us over to his for dinner, so we took a taxi there. I met his girlfriend Jo and her sister Lynn who were both super friendly and fab! They gave me huge hugs and kisses and made me feel totally welcome. I love them! Then I met YOKOJO as well, who was also nice and a fantastic doll maker. Amazing. Gav made some fabulous pasta and was super chatty. It was great! Then we piled into his car and headed out to a low-key bar, where we got a semi-private little room and talked about films. Calumn, Sweetie and Rich joined us. We eventually parted ways and there were huge hugs all around. Had to get up early to check out and catch a bus to Leeds. Actually made it in time for real breakfast for the first time and Ann was amazed and teased us about it. Got a taxi to the station and said our farewells. to be continued... ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 21:45:36 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: She was wearing pink gauze - was that possible? Message-ID: <20011024204536.56791.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> It looks like I'm back. Appearances can deceive, I suppose, mind. Mine is always deceiving me. Someone from the continent talked about Kylie Minogue. It's true, it's not as bad as some recent records like Brockley Spears', though it's not as good as my editor made out either. MyMomSays talked about rumours, and things. That was pretty interesting. I cannot for the life of me be sure which authors it was to which my editor compared her. Richard Gillanders is interested in how Yanks became Yankz. I'll have to give it some thoughtz. Calumn Shearer made a NOTABLE return. Oh, it was notable. It was lengthy, it was eggnogmatic, it was erudite. Someone should sign him up. You may choose not to believe me when I say that I recently made a tape with a relative of his on it. If I keep on going like this, someone might mention me in a post to sinister, you never know. I have missed that. Mind you, recently I have been listening to an album called The Soft Washing Machine by a young lass called Petra Miljanova. It's nothing like Bonnie Tyler - no cords (vocal) are broken. And no, it's not much like Bonnie Prince Cookie, or Bonnie Langford, either. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Wed Oct 24 22:09:39 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:09:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i only did it so i could use the chat name terryunderwear Message-ID: i actually wrote this last night, but my email wasn't properly configured for the list. so, here it is now, enjoy. hello kids, i'm new here. have enjoyed reading you all and getting to know a couple of you. i've been giving myself the pleasure of picking a belle and sebastian song of the day. here are my choices the last few: friday-legal man saturday-ease yr feet in the sea sunday-there's too much love monday-lazy line painter jane tuesday-beautiful and now that it's wednesday, i can go ahead and Q up middle distance runner and sigh the rest of my night away. am 28. am Amy. am from michigan. someone at #sinister told me there was another girl from the Grand Rapids area on here... let yrself be known! #sinister. i've only been on there, maybe twice. i've been frequenting the jeepster room and have made some lovely kill the time with chat aquaintances there. wherever i am, you'll see me as "terryunderwear". yay. have 2 cats. one with 6 toes on each paw, named jack (kerouac). another shy love named (robert) deniro. why am i telling you this? because jack is pawing at me, begging for attention. so, i will give him the attention of 1500 some people. maybe that will satisfy. i love that you all seem to enjoy randomness, because i'm heavily supporting with this email :) other arteests i like besides belle and sebastian (i'm gonna try to keep it short): stereolab,billy bragg, go-betweens, sleater-kinney, palace, smiths, talulah gosh, shop assistants, billie holiday, built to spill, tortoise, sea and cake, astrud gilberto, radiohead, velvet underground, coltrane. i'll stop there, you get the general idea. stereolab's been my absolute favorite for years. will be going to my 7th lab show soon. so excited. i've never had the opportunity to see belle and sebastian, tho i reckon it would be quite the uplifting experience. i'm curious if anyone out there has an mp3 of belle and sebastian doing "alone again or" live. i'm so enchanted with the idea of them doing that song and am dying inside to hear it. please check out the love and damned versions, kids. it's a great song. i had just signed up here when the chicago meet up was being planned. i contacted a few of you about it, and i appreciate your responses and willingness to meet someone so new, in the nursery and all. it didn't work out for me to go since an old friend was coming around to visit, and i was becoming ill. another day... don't hesitate to contact for email chat. i've recently made the decision to move back to lansing, michigan. it's not all that "hip" or great of a place, but i'm drawn to it for some reason. i left my lil' northern hometown for lansing at 17. i made so many amazing friends there. at 22 i moved back home to help my ailing grandfather, thinking i'd move to chicago in another year. well, i'm still here. i've bought a home and all. no chicago. lots of small town minds and trees closing in on me. i love my trees. i don't like big big towns and cities, aside from visiting them. so many of my loved ones have been moving back to lansing over the years. i love it when i go there now. it says home to me. so, within about a year i'll be back. the last weekend i spent there was filled with so many good feelings. a friend with a baby on the way i don't want to miss out on, school is calling me back. i feel really good about this. i really like mix tapes. i'm not too sure about the whole rachel v wills thing for me, but if anyone wants to trade some stevie wonder induced mixes, i'm yr girl. oh, and you can't mind the scratch of vinyl either! with that, i will end this passage. do take care, amy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From breamsi at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 00:06:28 2001 From: breamsi at xxx.com (breams plural) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:06:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: North Carolina is for llewsers! Message-ID: Hello there, Jeepers, this feels like writing a letter home from a holiday. I�ve evidently left it too long. There are now far too many things to say and not enough detail remembered from any to make them interesting. Regardless, it�ll all just end up as a chronological list of events anyway. So far I have not yet shared the countless stories that have been part of my jaunt, including tales of debauchery, drinking, love, drinking, weddings, drinking, couches, drinking, pavements, drinking, dancing, gigs and a little bit more drinking. Infact, if I were a small elephant, which I�m not, then I�d be dead, which I�m not. Then again, if I were a large elephant, I�d still have one hell of a hangover. So thankfully I�m just a boy with a rotting liver instead. Beyond these tales of Scottish hyjinx there is yet more to be told of the stalking of a certain group of boys going under the name of the Lucksmiths, sleeping with said quarter of the Greek massive and spending more time on busses than time sober. But still, after those stories have faded into the night, there is still the account of my further travel to the distant shores of Laura Land. As a result of my ingestion of copious amounts of alcohol, my mind is not what it once was, and the large majority of the stories mentioned above have been forgotten in the abyss of inebriation. In llew I shall attempt to traverse the tightrope of tales filled with wit and whimsy. Failing that I'll just ramble for a bit. As I write this I�m sat at Miss Llew�s computer. As I write that I�m sat, writing this at Miss Llew�s computer, I realise that I am in a position of great privilege. Few, if any, (barring the very goddess herself) have sat in such high places whilst posting. I was hoping that this fact might coax my post towards greatness, but I fear that I shall be let down by my own performance. Perhaps I should reinvent myself for a bit of a creative kick. Someone suggested becoming a man with a penchant for capes and mascara. Depending on the colour of both that could be fun. I�m thinking a red flowing cape and shiny silver mascara (perhaps even some eyeliner and little bit of lippy too) would give me something to post about. Problem is it would probably only be about how many stitches some guy gave me on the weekend and how many bruises I�ve amassed in a day. Oh well, it�s better than nothing! Oh yes, I seem to remember Miss Vicky Vodkabird saying something about wanting a mention or two. I can�t remember whether you wanted just Vic, Vicky, Voddy, V-Diddy, Vicklemeister or just Ho! That enough for you love? Since arriving in the Land of Llew I have been shown a great deal of the state she�s in (sorry for the shite joke�blame ken!). We have perused bookstores, sampled a large cross-section of the cheeseburger market, climbed mountains (not without the aid of the indispensable car) and watched classic films (Harold and Maude anyone?). Plus, I managed to endanger Miss Llew and the rest of the nation by getting myself behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. Thankfully nobody was killed, well, not that I know of. Finally, I�ve been asked to write a small dedication to the Divine Comedy, who are no more. Well, I can�t say I knew them well, cause I didn�t, so I won�t. I can�t say that they touched my life profoundly and deeply, cause they didn�t, so I won�t. I can�t say that I even knew they had split up until Sweetie told me, cause I didn�t, so I won�t. Therefore, all that�s left is to say �Well done chaps�, pat them all on the back and present them with a lovely antique carriage clock. So, I shall now return to the wonderful world of llew and bid you all a fond farewell. In closing, if anyone in London is free anytime from the 1st until the 10th of November, it is in your best interests to seek me out for drinks and frivolity. Otherwise I shall be forced to bite your noses off. And that would be unpleasant. For the rest of you�bad luck. I�ll see you all in Glasgow soon enough. takes hold of the reins of his mighty stead and gallops off into the setting sun Breams _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 01:28:23 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (Nope) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: If you want to use the crapper, you'll have to read my manifesto Message-ID: <002601c15ceb$f4bf9230$f909040a@ops.about.com> My life is summed up by a poster hanging above my toilet. Its a quote from trainspotting - something along the lines of 'Choose Life', but expounded on in 10 sentences or so, my favorite being 'And wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning' So, if you use my toilet at my house, you'll be forced to read how I look at the world. When I moved about a week ago, I hung said poster and I was inspired. I was inspired to write a short story about a not-so-evil Scotsman that had the only lavatory in a small tourist town, 30 miles south of Inverness. The story is told in the first person by some unwitting tourist, probably American. I may as well expound on the stereotype to please the Europeans in the readership, specifically the French, who think of Americans as especially unwitting. Whelp, anyway, the American eats a heavy meal of steak pie and McEwans in the previous town he visits, and finds himself in a quaint village where the not-so-evil Scotsman has his shop and an exclusive lock on the washing up facilities. The American walks in, and after a not so heated exchange and the realization that he really doesn't have a choice, takes the manifesto and makes his way to the crapper. And after all, being forced to read the manifesto really isn't that big a deal. It may actually be interesting, thinks the tourist. The manifesto lays out the not-so-evil Scotsman's plan of first raising his henchmen army by forcing people to read his self-purported, very convincing manifesto by the diabolical means to which the unwitting tourist has himself been subject. It goes on to describe the Scotsman's plan to turn everyone in the world into Scotsmen by dispersing a 'wurrm' which will cause men to be unable to reproduce unless they have wool against their willies and thus forcing them to wear a kilt, sans underwear, during their waking hours. The hope of the plan is not to hold the world population for ransom, for the Scotsman knows how hard it is to part with a farthing. Its not for fame, or power. He just thinks it is really cool to be Scottish, and thinks everyone else in the world should be, too. The American, nearly at the end of his trip, sees the vaildity of the plan. After all, it is good to be Scottish. During his trip, the American has tasted good beer, listened to Belle and Sebastian, and has seen the sublime beauty of the highlands in the summertime, all green and fertile. The plan is working perfectly, thinks the not-so-evil Scotsman. But the American is not so easily swayed. After all, Belle and Sebastian tour America. He can buy a pint of Irn Bru at the local bodega. And it would be as dreary as a Glasgow rainstorm if there was nothing else in the world of any other color but tartan. The American, now relieved, flushes, and bids a good day to the not-so-evil Scotsman. The Scotsman replies in kind. In the movie version, I'll try to get Sean Connery to play the part of the Scotsman. John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 06:18:10 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:18:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: we greedy, plus we try'n feed the needy dawg wit all the cabbage Message-ID: <6FCE7EEF6A64EE3429A2C44074E0BAB8@chinacat81.wildmail.com> my car has died. poor thing...sitting all alone in the parking lot of a twenty-four hour diner. i'm not sure how i'll get to work tomorrow.... i realized today how much i will miss my job. a sweet elderly man came into the shop, walked straight up to the counter and asked if we would "cater to transvestites." gina said yeah and asked what he needed...a shiny black corset and a cheap wig. we don't have them. he said his wife thinks it's a horrible idea anyway. heh. yesterday, a young couple engaged in various sexual acts just outside the front window of the shop. looking into the shop and laughing and probably feeling brave and fabulous. no one was really impressed...someone stood and gave them the finger for quite some time, and someone else called security but they never showed up. one guard stopped in today with a memo, and gina said "people had sex up against the window. we called security and nobody ever came by." the guard just stared blankly and said "well, you could've called again." there is one female security guard...for many months she reminded me of someone and i could never think...then i realized. and she gained a nickname. 'the trunchbull,' as far as i can see, is given ample pay and benefits for stomping around all day, eating roasted almonds and scaring kittens. and scaring me. there's this awful elevator to the basement. it has a massive horizontal sliding door...you have to push down the bottom part and pull up the top part with a grimy strap....it's so horribly heavy that i have to get under the strap with my shoulder and push and pull until i have opened it enough to get my leg and half of my bum into the space, at which point i sort of wedge myself into the crack and push the top part of the door up over my head. gosh. sort of hard to picture, i'd imagine...sorry. well. a few days ago i was bored and stalling a bit on my way up from taking the garbage to the basement, and i suddenly thought that it might be fun if i were to stand on the bottom part of the door and pull on the strap overhead, thus raising myself with the door. it looked like fun and i had nothing better to do...so i was just killing some time, going up and down with the door and wondering why i'd never thought of it before. and then...a dark, bulky figure appeared. a neat brown bun on top of a skull the size of a basketball. the trunchbull. she saw me there, balancing several feet off the floor, a cigarette hanging out of my mouth, and wearing a dumb t-shirt and a funny cap with cat ears. she...boomed at me. i don't know how else to put it. i don't know what she said. it just sounded like booming. bits of roasted almonds flying out of her mouth, her great round eyes looking as though they might pop right out of her head. i rather expected her to grab me by my hair and swing me around and around, for she simply must be a former shot-put champion. of course she is. she's the trunchbull. i'm sort of worried about my car. i hope nobody does anything to it. i'm also worried that years from now, a child will find out that he was conceived against the window at viktor-viktoria. blech. sorry. this is so lame. i can't help it... LOVE kirsten by the way, mandee wright is completely rad because she can link oatmeal to the flight of the navigator and also because she just named my car "spacepet." Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Oct 25 10:11:26 2001 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:11:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Waking Up To Us Message-ID: <004001c15d35$2f578800$b7ccfc3e@neil> Jo Whiley just said she's playing the song today. Sometime in the next couple of hours. Just to let you know. Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu Oct 25 12:16:28 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:16:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: new single play ... Message-ID: <01d001c15d46$802fe180$9426fea9@katrina> ... still hasn't been on - it's 12.15 - check out www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Thu Oct 25 14:35:16 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:35:16 Subject: Sinister: macgyver and soyabrugers. Message-ID: <178228758@spray.se> hello sinister, today i´m home sick. really. j´ai mal a la gorge, actually. and i have a headache and i´m feeling really ill. complains, complains, complains.. I went up this morning, around seven, and didn´t feel good, so I went back to my bed and slept til ten when I felt I had to get up. and so I did. it was grate, sleeping is one of my favourite things to do, but i´m not spoiled with it, school is horrible: seven in the morning?! ah, awful. i got up, got a blanket and sat in our big lovely sofa and i started watching tv, and to my delight, macgyver was on. i always watched macgyver when i was a kid, but my mum had to read the sublines for me, i hadn´t learnt to read by then. macgyver was a family thing, the whole family would sit down and watch it. haha. today, monsieur macgyver (does he have a first name? and in that case, does anyone know what that name is?) was in a forrest, he was going to help some people by putting up sattelite-blahblahs in the forrest. but of course, macgyver finds a mystery. it was a bit scary actually, i had to turn off the sound once, and i also had to change channel a couple of times, as i actually got scared by it. i am such a WUSSY! my guestbook on my swedish webpage has been invaded by footballboys! ah! there are some idiots who´ve linked wrong from their own site, so "their" guestbooklink leads to my guestbook. so i´ve got loads of very stupidious things written there. ah. i, kind of wrote them to fuck off, because they´re just so stupid. this post will be quite short, i´m really sleepy and not feeling so well, so i probably should be resting. i might be watching dead poets´ society. i love that movie. i love ethan hawke as well. heh. but before i curl up in our sofa, i think i´ll make myself a soyaburger or two. i haven´t eaten anything today, yet, so i´m really starting to get hungry. oh, right, do you know what happened in school yesterday? i bet not. i was sitting, innocently, with my friends in the school cafeteria, and on the side of the bench where i was sitting, a small glass filled with water that someone else had left there. some stupid people, who i really don´t like at all was having a fight, but a friendly one, anyway they´re idiots, and don´t you think that one of them accidently smash the glass of water and I get water all over me. it took like 2 hours to dry, and i, who was already freezing, got even more colder. i became quite aggresive for the rest of the day. now, those soyaburgers await.. mixtapes and love, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Thu Oct 25 13:52:08 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 13:52:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Degeneration Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058FB8@PIKACHU> So, it's official. The Divine Comedy are no more. They will be hugely missed by some of us, less hugely missed by others (Mr Hopkins?). Although apparently Neil Hannon will still be recording for the same label, and since he wrote all the songs anyway, it shouldn't be too traumatic, but still. It's strange, it feels like only yesterday I was watching them play live. Which is an odd coincidence, since I went to see them play at Rock City in Nottingham last night. And they were, as ever, fantastic. They even managed to surpass B&S's recent efforts in endurance by being onstage for just under 2 hours. The set included lots of songs that everyone knows and loves, and even a cover of Jennifer Rush's The Power Of Love. It was G!R!A!T!E!. Of course, all dispossesed Divine Comedy fans should immediately switch their allegiance to The Whitlams, who are still one of my favourite 3 bands in existence, and their G!R!A!T!E!ness has not diminished during the few weeks since I last raved about them. Meeting friends in a club after the show set me on the road to another discovery; that WKD, basically a mixture of vodka and Iron Bru, is a fabulous thing. I would declare it to be capable of giving vodka and red bull a run for its money, were it not for the nagging doubt that it may be in some way responsible for me feeling as rough as a badger's crotch this morning. In other news, I went to see the Lucksmiths in Nottingham recently. They were alright. Crap sound. The gig was only lifted above the average by them playing Untidy Towns as an encore, surely their best song. It's good to see a recent increase in randomness on the list. This is definitely a good thing. For a horrible couple of weeks I thought people might even start using subject lines that had some sort of relevance to the post, and writing "Off Topic" before saying anything, but things have returned to normal, and the world is a better place again. So, the IRA have started giving up their weapons. Their (mostly American) financial backers have finally realised that maybe killing innocent people isn't such a good idea. Shame it's taken 30 years for them to see sense, but what can you do? All we need now is for the Americans to stop bombing hospitals... The Pinefox wanted to be mentioned in a post. But I refuse to give into his vanity, so I won't do it. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Oct 25 14:25:16 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:25:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Be somewhere pretty while you can Message-ID: <20011025132516.24619.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> The city seems to go several hues greyer at his time of the year. Being a seaside town it's all about the summer. Autumn seems to hit the place like an district-wide case of SAD as though the whole place suddenly can't find anything to live for. We also tend to get floods too. That's why I live on the 3rd floor. There's nothing better for breaking out of a wintery funk than THREE. HUGE. POSTS. from the luvverly Stacey Dahling which made my morning at work disappear very quickly indeed. Unfortunately our paths never crossed on her travels which is good thing 'cos it meant she had a GRATE time. She's also a lot braver than me in her determination to try a deep-fried Mars Bar (those things are pocket-sized heart attacks). Nice photos too. Where did you get those trousers, Will? I was gonna mention pinefox but thought better of it. I'm also saddened by the demise of the Divine Comedy. But... weren't they just Neil Hannon and a load of session musicians in the first place? Someone please clarify or I'm gonna have to buy a copy of the NME! So have has R1 played the new single yet? I'm going white knuckled in anticipation waiting for my inbox to split asunder with cries "their best song EVER!" and "I told you they're crap now". It better happen soon or I'm unsubscribing and joining the Andrew WK list. Quick note to anyone in London: I'll be in town Saturday to spend money and absorb culture (probably at the National Portrait Gallery) if anyone wants to look at pretty pictures, dodge rain and drink bouze on the 27th, drop me an off-list mail. Love Robster ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 15:05:34 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:05:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: e-mailtronic renassiance Message-ID: Hello, This is my first post to the list, let me introduce myself, I'm Ken from Milton Keynes, I've kind of noticed that there is someone my namesake living in the same town as me. We are two entirely different people tho, look, my e-mail address is different. My favourite bands are Belle & Sebastian, Terrorvision and the Red Bull Dozers, who are a decent local MK band.. those who haven't heard of this band should pay them a listen, they're well good! Those who have heard of this band should pay them a listen too! (or a fiver) Their URL is: http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd I am, like Ken, also a maths teacher, I was thrilled to find that B&S's new song is called "Maths & Angles". I'm not sure about their change of names of their title song to "Waking up to us" tho, I really think "Waking up to PI" would be a much better idea. Straight out of the nursery I'm already reporting of a sinister picnic, last night in Milton Keynes, out of sheer coincidence both Owen the Narrow Wizard and James the Danson Hatcher decided that they want to stop off at Milton Keynes for the night, coming from opposite ends of the country. One came down all the way from a punderful place called "Concert" by train, and the other came up all the way from a pungently smelly place called "London" by bike, yes, bike, not a motorbike, a bike! What is he like? He was going up and going down and went nowhere (nowhere good anyway he ended up in Milton Keynes). So yeah, we had a picnic at "Old Farm Park" at the garden some local prince's palace. Then a fun night was had by all, we wined and dined until nine, which was fine, and I just thought I'd mention a fox made of pine, cos that somewhat rhymed. That's all for now really, I hope I've charmed you all enough to get some crush votes. Crushes and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 00:53:27 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:53:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: beyond our ken Message-ID: <000f01c15db0$cc516c40$e036073e@aqlzosqt> reading about stacey's marathon meet n greet i feel positively insular. oh well, that's what online communites are for i suppose - people who can't always be arsed to create a 3D social life. though visitors to my lonely corner of southern england would always be appreciated, you know . oh, and stacey, i suggest that when you tackle that pile of books, you pull out 'the golden bowl' and use it as a doorstop. i have never seen the point of henry james. an english degree didn't enlighten me as to his merits, but if anyone wants to try they're welcome. heard 'waking up to us' on radio 1 at lunchtime today, which was faintly surprising. also surprising was jo whiley announcing that b&s had live dates coming up. is this true??? surely they've earned themselves another 3 year break...? glad to see robin 'inaccurately named' stout back with us. maybe you can give me some hints about acquiring a proper job? i had two interviews today, and i hate them SOOO much. if it really is all about selling yourself, why can't you just send someone in your place to do it for you? i need an agent, dammit. matt gave me IYFS, TIJAMRS and that gentle waves album that i secretly hate on vinyl yesterday. i am happy :) (but why? why do i care? i never buy vinyl, and i'm so not a completist. i don't get it. but when it comes to b&s i have no power to resist. bloody band, they've still got me under the thumb after all these years.) so, the mix tape battle commences! the rachels have far too much style and charm not to win. (plus we're all sleeping with the judge, obviously. see you later, ken.) and on that note, it's good night, sweet sinisterines, and may belle & sebastian sing you to your rest. luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 17:20:17 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel .) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:20:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: if i knew you didn't miss me Message-ID: oh, lovely sinister, i got dumped today... in a horrible way, i must say... i know that you probably don't want to read about it, so i'm sorry for this mail. i just cant help it. i've got to do something, or else i'll just sit in our sofa, staring in the wall, crying. monday: i called him up and asked if i could see him that night, cause i really missed him a lot. but he told me that he was ill and he actually couldn't do anything but laying in the bed. so i had to accept that and do something else instead. tuesday: i had a short moment on the phone with him, and he was still ill. wednesday: once again, i called him up to see how he was doing, and if he felt any better... but obviously he didn't... he just told me that he had a terible headache, and that he wasn't in the mood for talking, all he wanted was to get back to bed. and finally, thursday: after school i decided to give him a visit, and to check if he was still ill. when he opened the door he seemed quite... tense (but he didn't seem to be ill at all!) so i took a step inside, and he nervously shut the door to his room, as if i wasn't allowed to go in there. but i did anyway - i always do, ofcourse, but he doesn't close that door in that way very often. and what do i see when i walk into his room? another girl laying in his bed. after that i don't remember much of what happend. i only know that i just stared at her, and he said something like "oh, rach honey... i'm so sorry..." and that bith laying in the bed says "is THAT rachel, your girlfriend? the one you were braking up with? i do understand why, yes." then he says "err... well... monica... oh, rach, i'm sorry. but it's for the best you know. but i really did love you!" after that i think that i went home... i don't think i've ever been this sad before. how the hell could he do like that? "i really did love you" did he HAVE to say that? as if it didn't hurt enough. oh, well. i'm going to eat loads of chocolate now... and maybe i'll stare in the wall. take care, rach oj _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 00:53:27 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:53:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: beyond our ken Message-ID: <000f01c15db0$cc516c40$e036073e@aqlzosqt> reading about stacey's marathon meet n greet i feel positively insular. oh well, that's what online communites are for i suppose - people who can't always be arsed to create a 3D social life. though visitors to my lonely corner of southern england would always be appreciated, you know . oh, and stacey, i suggest that when you tackle that pile of books, you pull out 'the golden bowl' and use it as a doorstop. i have never seen the point of henry james. an english degree didn't enlighten me as to his merits, but if anyone wants to try they're welcome. heard 'waking up to us' on radio 1 at lunchtime today, which was faintly surprising. also surprising was jo whiley announcing that b&s had live dates coming up. is this true??? surely they've earned themselves another 3 year break...? glad to see robin 'inaccurately named' stout back with us. maybe you can give me some hints about acquiring a proper job? i had two interviews today, and i hate them SOOO much. if it really is all about selling yourself, why can't you just send someone in your place to do it for you? i need an agent, dammit. matt gave me IYFS, TIJAMRS and that gentle waves album that i secretly hate on vinyl yesterday. i am happy :) (but why? why do i care? i never buy vinyl, and i'm so not a completist. i don't get it. but when it comes to b&s i have no power to resist. bloody band, they've still got me under the thumb after all these years.) so, the mix tape battle commences! the rachels have far too much style and charm not to win. (plus we're all sleeping with the judge, obviously. see you later, ken.) and on that note, it's good night, sweet sinisterines, and may belle & sebastian sing you to your rest. luv archel xxx *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 17:40:38 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:40:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dear Polly Jean... Message-ID: <20011025164953.HLRA13652.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.252.200.186]> I bought the lovely, gorgeous, beautiful "Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea" by the lovely, gorgeous, beautiful P J Harvey the day before yesterday. I'm actually listening to it right now. I love it, it's so dark and swirling but not in a fuzzy way, more of a crystal clear sea with hundreds of writhing herring in it, all moving and changing, so you can never count them. It feels like that, but with bass guitars on it. I also trawled all round North London trying to find a copy of the new 20-minute Mogwai single. but, would you believe it, I couldn't find a single copy of it. Grrrrrrr.... I bought an album by some people called Crackout, as well. I'm not sure I like it that much though. I heard a few songs from it on the radio, but the Album Versions don't seem as good. It also had a "Parental Guidance" sticker on the front, and is the first CD I've bought with one of those. I'm just _such_ a rebel. The Day after all my record buying shinannigans, I spent the day with my friend Anthony. We started by Going to Tate Modern, which we did, but The food was really expensive and the queues for it were really long, so we went and had lunch somewhere else. Except we couldn't find anywhere, and we walked all the way along the South Bank to Waterloo Bridge, where we crossed over and bought some ludicrously dear Sandwhiches from Pret a Manger. And ate them in front of Somerset House, where Lambchop played not that long ago. Then we went to find the Bank of England, And walked a long, long way. We had a look at the Temple, full of lawyers, and were disgusted that you had to PAY to get into St. Paul's Cathederal. It's a CHURCH for CRISSAKE. It goes against the whole principle of The Church being "Holy". I'm gonna write a letter to somebody about it. It's disgusting! After that, we found The Bank of England and robbed it quickly. He he he. No we didn't actually, we got thrown out the front bit and shoved into the museum, which was surprisingly interesting. I failed pathetically to lift a solid gold bar with one hand. Then we went out, and went on the Waterloo And city line to Waterloo, the only place we could go considering it only has two stops. Then we wondered what to do, and walked up and down Waterloo station about 5 times. So we decided to go to Mornington Crescent, and were very surprised to find ourselves in Camden. So we went up to the market, and counted the number of people who offered us drugs (7) and decided that there wasn't anything we wanted, and as we only had 50p between us by this time, we couldn't buy anything we did. So we went home. But on the Way, I passed a shop I had never noticed before, "Rythym Records". And I went in and saw that they had ALL the B&S albums, and 3...6...9....seconds of light, and legal man, and Geometrid and something by the gentle waves. And I was much impressed, and now plan to buy all my records from that shop. Sorry to all of you who didn't understand a lot of this post due to not knowing London that well. I am tired still, as during that day, I walked a Long, long, long way. but I liked it. Will do it again sometime. London is cool. !Viva Rachels! Rachel Pancake (Joe) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 18:14:31 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:14:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dear Polly Jean... Message-ID: <20011025172346.IQDZ23741.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.252.200.186]> I bought the lovely, gorgeous, beautiful "Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea" by the lovely, gorgeous, beautiful P J Harvey the day before yesterday. I'm actually listening to it right now. I love it, it's so dark and swirling but not in a fuzzy way, more of a crystal clear sea with hundreds of writhing herring in it, all moving and changing, so you can never count them. It feels like that, but with bass guitars on it. I also trawled all round North London trying to find a copy of the new 20-minute Mogwai single. but, would you believe it, I couldn't find a single copy of it. Grrrrrrr.... I bought an album by some people called Crackout, as well. I'm not sure I like it that much though. I heard a few songs from it on the radio, but the Album Versions don't seem as good. It also had a "Parental Guidance" sticker on the front, and is the first CD I've bought with one of those. I'm just _such_ a rebel. The Day after all my record buying shinannigans, I spent the day with my friend Anthony. We started by Going to Tate Modern, which we did, but The food was really expensive and the queues for it were really long, so we went and had lunch somewhere else. Except we couldn't find anywhere, and we walked all the way along the South Bank to Waterloo Bridge, where we crossed over and bought some ludicrously dear Sandwhiches from Pret a Manger. And ate them in front of Somerset House, where Lambchop played not that long ago. Then we went to find the Bank of England, And walked a long, long way. We had a look at the Temple, full of lawyers, and were disgusted that you had to PAY to get into St. Paul's Cathederal. It's a CHURCH for CRISSAKE. It goes against the whole principle of The Church being "Holy". I'm gonna write a letter to somebody about it. It's disgusting! After that, we found The Bank of England and robbed it quickly. He he he. No we didn't actually, we got thrown out the front bit and shoved into the museum, which was surprisingly interesting. I failed pathetically to lift a solid gold bar with one hand. Then we went out, and went on the Waterloo And city line to Waterloo, the only place we could go considering it only has two stops. Then we wondered what to do, and walked up and down Waterloo station about 5 times. So we decided to go to Mornington Crescent, and were very surprised to find ourselves in Camden. So we went up to the market, and counted the number of people who offered us drugs (7) and decided that there wasn't anything we wanted, and as we only had 50p between us by this time, we couldn't buy anything we did. So we went home. But on the Way, I passed a shop I had never noticed before, "Rythym Records". And I went in and saw that they had ALL the B&S albums, and 3...6...9....seconds of light, and legal man, and Geometrid and something by the gentle waves. And I was much impressed, and now plan to buy all my records from that shop. Sorry to all of you who didn't understand a lot of this post due to not knowing London that well. I am tired still, as during that day, I walked a Long, long, long way. but I liked it. Will do it again sometime. London is cool. !Viva Rachels! Rachel Pancake (Joe) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mairaefabio at xxx.br Wed Oct 24 05:05:55 2001 From: mairaefabio at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?snoozer/_Ma=EDra?=) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:05:55 -0200 Subject: Sinister: b&s concert Message-ID: <018501c15c41$8fa269e0$1270c7c8@fejal.com.br> Hello, all you sinisterians(!) out there. This is my first post, and hope it's not the last. I've just been let out of the nursery and now i've got voice. It's really something when you got a voice! ;.} Unfortunately, I couldn't read all of your posts since i joined the list; time's just a crap these days. I've read some, until the 15th, then I'm just keeping'em in a file. I don't like the idea of missing posts, altough you folks write soooo much... Anyway, i've read some really cool stuff, I'm glad I'm here on sinister world. Introducing myself: my name's Fabio, i'm brazilian, 22 year-old-thin-tall and young rock 'n roller. I live with my gilfriend Maíra, she also intends to write her crazy ideas to the list, and she writes much better than i do. You'll see. We really kicked asses last year, when we left our parents house to live together, without getting married, and without any financial support. just because we love each other. This may sound regular for other cultures/ countries, but that's not what brazilian youngsters are used to do. They'd rather live with their parents for very long time, not caring about getting a job or anything. Only after graduation. Why am I telling all this? Oh yeah, we could say we're different. We feel alone very often in this hot country. And to make it worse, we live in the smallest state in Brazil: it's called Sergipe. If you've got a world map somewhere, check it out: it's pretty small. The city, Aracaju, doesn't have ANYTHING that could be interesting to do. No cool places. No cultural aspects that could be worthwhile living here. Some good friends, tough. A rock 'n roll band (that's mine!), and this is it. But the actual reason for posting this is: Tomorrow is going to be the first days of the rest of our lives. We ARE going to a Belle & Sebastian concert. Not here, sure. São Paulo, here we go. Pretty far away, but we've got the plane tickets, and the most important thing: we've got the concert tickets!!!!!!!!!! We feel so happy about it that i had to write this to anyone in the world. If you're still here, thanks for reading. There's more to tell: it's a festival there, so I'll also have the pleasure to hear Grandaddy from the US, which really impressed me, and Sigur Rós, which I'm very curious about, and since we're big fans of Bjork, I don't think there will be a poblem in "getting" their sound. More! More! Today, B&S is playing in Rio, and there's a big tv network that does a very good job on broadcasting LIVE. Last year, i watched Sonic youth's concert on tv and everything was perfect, the sound, the cameras, and no commercials. And guess what? I'm going to record this concert today, before traveling tomorrow morning. If any of you B&S nerds are interested on getting this recording, I'd be very happy to send it. I'm going to work now! I believe I can write about the concert as soon as I get home on Monday. see you all, []'s Fabio Snoozer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 18:46:36 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sighing dialogue whilst missing you Message-ID: <20011025174636.74835.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> so i'm on my lunch break, and i'm sitting here. i just got done with my curry puffs, and i'm now cracking open my fortune cookie.....and it says........hold on.....ok, it says "your plans will be rewarding." hmmmmmm....... we shall see. :) anyway, not much going on. my boss got fired yesterday, under very suspicious circumstances. so this means that i will now have to go through the pure hell of getting to know a new boss. it takes awhile to really feel out a boss, and a good one is rare. and when it comes to work, i dont like my routine disturbed. go in at 8am, check my email, writes some emails, do a bit of work, eat lunch and do more mailing, do a bit more work and then leave and go enjoy the real life. but now, i've got to be on guard cause anyone could just pop their head in my cubicle at any moment and say "hey caleb, do you think we could take your computer and put it in the training room, cause they need another one in there and you dont really need it anyway, ok, thanks a bunch, b-bye." my company is doing alot of "restructuring". i dont like being restructured, unless its on an emotional level, which i think is going on constantly with everyone. so......yeah. i've met someone. from the list, no less! and she's so sweetly pretty and friendly. i can't wait to get to know her better. she lives very far away.............but that's ok. cause the same sun warms us both, and the same moon sings us to both to sleep & dreams. i used to listen to the smiths "i know it's over" and just lay on my bed and cry. but now it's the smiths "ask" and i'm all smiles and laughs and staring at the sun and listening to your own heartbeat imagining...... it's so nice to know that someone out there is thinking about you, smiling to themselves and writing down their heartbeats to send to you. it's getting very cold here, and its beginning to snow. but inside i'm so warm! and i hope that all of you are also. love and every beautiful thing in the world................raw aka caleb ben ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 19:23:40 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:23:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I'm going back to New York City, I do believe I've had enough Message-ID: <008801c15d82$2d01aa20$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Hi Popkids; The glorious fact is: I'm going to NYC on Friday. For a week. So if anyone knows any don't-miss shows in the coming days, please tell. Alex mentioned the gig for Boyracer etc, on the upper west side, which I'm gonna try to get to. But anything else you think would be of interest to a Sinisterene, be sure to mention it. In the meantime, widen the gutters and shorten the vice laws for my pending arrival. And be good while I'm away. I'll be watching via digests. And someone please post the lyrics to Marx & Engels, please. And: our own lovely Sophie Sea just co-authored a wonderful review of the 2nd Los Angeles gig in the British music glossy "MOJO". Do check it out. Love, Brier P.S. Thanks to the Beastie Boys for providing my subject line via Bob Dylan, who produced the text from whence was ripped. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nicholson_anthony at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 20:49:43 2001 From: nicholson_anthony at xxx.com (Anthony Nicholson) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'm going back to New York City, I do believe I've had enough In-Reply-To: <008801c15d82$2d01aa20$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Message-ID: <20011025194943.94893.qmail@web13609.mail.yahoo.com> Brier Random wrote: Hi Popkids; The glorious fact is: I'm going to NYC on Friday. For a week. So if anyone knows any don't-miss shows in the coming days, please tell. -------------------------------------- well... mc momus is going to be at the knitting factory fri and sat nights (i believe he's scottish?), i like a lot of his stuff beastie boys, cibo matto and the strokes are playing a wtc benefit sunday night at the hammerstein ballroom. $50 on monday they're having the benefit again with bboys, mos def, roots, jon spencer blues explosion (yes!) another $50 kid koala and medeski martin and wood on halloween, beacon theater moldy peaches + the strokes on halloween (hammerstein ballroom) yes I know that's a lot of the strokes but as they are from brooklyn they play here a lot. so much drama in the nyc. Enjoy your visit to our fair town. watch out for the anthrax. There are also rumors of a huge halloween party out in brooklyn where i live, if it comes to pass i'll let you know. anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 20:51:35 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:51:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: Apples 'n' pears, Apples 'n' pears, Squeak! etc..... Message-ID: <129.68ec73a.2909c747@aol.com> Just so you know I've been in London for a few weeks where I saw such amazing sights! For instance one night there was a ninga majorette practicing at a bus stop (freestyleeee), and I had a job as a door to door salesman for a day, but best of all I managed to sweet-talk me mam into bringing my bike down to me, so I had the best games of "dodge the black cab" ever! All this and more whilst being looked after at Cay's (well disguised) 200 acre estate. Like I say it was loads of fun till the money ran out. All was well tho' , as I had a *plan* i only needed to sell a car and then I'd have the extra cash I need to fund a few more weeks of living before getting a job. This was a fantastic plan except the car (Dolly, my love) was in Leicester and I was in London with 27p to my name, so. Cycling is effectively free transport. via Kens house (ThanQ) I have to admit towards the end I was rather doughting my "cycle 100 miles with no food and limited water" mission. After sitting down at the Daventry junction for about 45 minutes cos I was f**ked and had no intention of going anywhere for some time, my saviour appeared in the form of two suger sachets and a sachet of noodle seasoning , the sugar was lovely but the noodle seasoning was a *bit* hot. Eating this just resulted in me feeeling sick and gasping for air/water/ice cubes, much to the amusement of passing drivers. Try anything once etc........ As for the new B&S It was on London's XFM on Tuesday and I think after a few more listen's I'll really like it. Cay pointed out that they seem to be going in a very 60's direction lately and that sounds good to me. I'll think of some more to tell you lot later, I'm sure. If you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. James. (he knows his TubeMice) (everyone cheer) I'm in Broughton-Astley again! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 22:12:18 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Come Back From San Narciso Message-ID: <20011025211218.29871.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> The geezer Brennan talked about the look of his town in the autumn; that wasnae bad. The llass Llew has got herself a Breams, that sounds exciting. (But for whom? For Breams, I would say.) Stacey 'Keach' Dahling said she had bought Ulysses at last, and made me wonder, what edition? and likewise, why? The Golden Bowl is good too, at least that's what I always say. Amy Longcore (cor[e], she has a Rock handle) said >>> i'm curious if anyone out there has an mp3 of belle and sebastian doing "alone again or" live. i'm so enchanted with the idea of them doing that song and am dying inside to hear it. please check out the love and damned versions, kids. it's a great song. If I had it I would send it to you. Not just a copy, but my copy. It would be a good thing to get rid of. The song is way overrated. But as you disagree, I hope you get it soon. Lansing - now that *does* sound interesting. I just heard from one of my confidants about town that Tompaulin played a gig. (Really, how silly their silly name is, all this long time after my editor first told me about them.) I heard it wasn't very good, but don't take my word for it. Take somebody else's. This inbox of mine is getting too full. It was meant to be a solution to mail overcrowding, not a contribution to it. What to do? Perhaps I should get a new Handle myself. Big S talked about the Lucksmiths. Yes, the Ls are talented, but I think they're about to go up a notch by working with a new producer who's set to mix vintage Clive Tydlesley moments into the fade-outs of their acoustic ditties. It'll be almost like sitting in the bar at Camber Sands in April 2000, in a very real sense. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mod4real at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 23:09:16 2001 From: mod4real at xxx.com (Toby C) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: nevermind the george bush Message-ID: <20011025220916.27888.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> Oi, long time no post. hope the listee at US won't be offended by that subject line. This will be the name of my nite at Chemical Suzy, the one and only indie music pub in Hong Kong, next month. hey Rachel, Hope u ll get well pretty soon. Listening to "Letter Never Sent" when u sad is fine. hey stacey, ve u seen your local band 2 by bukowski live? Waiting for my mail order... Last Night I dreamt That Somebody Love Me by Low And i am listening to Aretha Franklin right now. coz i am too confused after listened to my recent purchase, storkes and white stripe and the NME (BIG FAT CREDIT FOR IPC HERE)'s "TEN HOTTEST NEW BRIT BANDS" thing. Coral is great. And i dare not to call my band The Music. Luckily i ve Pulp and Bjork and Simian to balance my musical diet. PLEASE, people, please gimme some advice on my song JELLYFISH. I wrote the song and the lyric is in cantonese. I play bass, and sing (well, coz still ven't got a good vocal for the band) http://roppi.com/mp3/seatbelt_20011018_jellyfish.mp3 And there's a jam http://roppi.com/mp3/seatbelt_20011018_postrock.mp3 Kiren beer and Chicken Skins, Toby C at HK __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Thu Oct 25 23:05:53 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:05:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Red Bull led to my life of crime Message-ID: Hullo Sinister peeps! Uh, it's been a deathly dull week for me, not a punk rock week at all, and a rather unproductive one at that. Yesterday was a nice day, but the temperature quickly plunged into the 30's and now it's quite cold and grey here in Michigan. I rather like the cover of the new single, then again I do miss the old style that the album covers had. Posters from the covers of Fold Your Hands and This is Just a Modern Rock Song both adorne the walls of room, class stuff those covers, but Jonathan David and the new one are both ace as well. I'm really hoping we'll see a new album soon The singles are great, but there's a rather large list of songs that B&S have done lately that aren't out. Not counting the old demo stuff (Hurley's Having Dreams, Lord Anthony, etc), there's still quiet a few: The Season Has Arrived Miraculous Technique Nothing in the Silence Shoot the Sexual Athlete I get the feeling I'm forgetting one or two, but you all get the idea. I'd love to see (though doubt they'll do it) the Portland, Oregon song out as well, and I know my personal fave, Rhoda, will most likely never see a release. Ah, well, that's what bootlegs are for, I suppose. I should probably be frightened I knew all of the cartoon and comic book characters from jarkko's animated indie team. Ah, well, there goes that last of my indie cool creds. I have to say, I don't think I want to be a Rachel or a Will. No, I'm quite happy staying a Jim, sometimes even a James, and very rarely a Jimmy or Jimmy G. Besides, I've seen an example of Rachel Fruitloop's mix CD-fu and I fear her tape mixing prowlness. Of course, if Lil Llew decided to throw her bonnet into the ring it be a tough call. I'm missing all the places I've been this summer, and all the friends I had or made in those places. Stacey's posts made me remember the absolutely brilliant time I had bouncing around the UK and Europe earlier this summer (though I sadly didn't meet any sinister peeps) an of course as I sit here surrounded by grad school catalogues I think about all the brilliant cities I've passed through here in the states. PF said; "Lansing - Now that *does* sounds interesting" Nah, for *interesting* Michigan cities Ann Arbor takes the prize, one of the few cities I'd love to live in Michigan. Lansing's okay though, and East Lansing has MSU (my school), so suppose I have to give it props. Madison, now there's an ace city, and not just because our very own Elise lives there. A friend called it the Berkley of the mid-west, and I suppose that's apt. It's a cool town, very diverse, nice campus, good bohemian vibe to it. I really dug Madison. Then again, I grew up in lil Howell Michigan, where everything is so dreadfully the same. Everyone dresses the same, listens to the same music, reads the same newspapers...*sigh* I suppose I'm feeling itchy because I've been trapped inside the last week working on grad school junk. Btw, are there *any* decent music mags out there? I used to read Puncture for awhile, but I haven't seen it in any of the local booksellers lately. Anyways, everyone must look at this...thing...I have found: http://genrou.com/Terrible%20secret%20of%20space.swf It's an astonishing odd and addictive piece of flash animation. It amused me for several minutes earlier today. I got several family members quite angery at me last night for wondering outloud when the British would start shooting cruise missles into Boston for all the money and aid we've given to the IRA over the last thirty years, or for that matter, when we could expect Chilean paratroopers to start dropping in to capture all the CIA agents and officials responsible for the thousands murdered or disappeared by US backed thugs during the 70's and 80's. I wonder if this country looks as insane from outside of States as it does from the inside? I've just been reading about a guy in Philly who was refused entry onto a plane because he had a book by Edward Abby (Hayduke Lives) that featured a bomb on the cover. The National Guard took him aaide and questioned him at length. So he booked a later flight and went home and got another book, and he was questioned about his choice of reading material once more, this time he had brought a copy of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, obviously the prefered reading material of terrorists. That stories almost as strange as the Kansas school district that mandated that only patriotic costumes could be worn at Halloween. Strange days... Anyways, sorry for the rambling, keep it punk rock Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnobrega at xxx.net Thu Oct 25 23:56:18 2001 From: jnobrega at xxx.net (Juliano Nobrega) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:56:18 -0200 Subject: Sinister: plane trip scares isobel Message-ID: Hello listees... Terrrorism strikes music again.... Isobel didn't follow B&S to the Brazilian gigs. According to an official note by Free Jazz Festival organizers, she gave up coming to Brazil because she was afraid to fly after the terrorist attacks on the US. Sad for us fans. I wonder what they'll sound like without her. They play Rio toninght and Sao Paulo tomorrow. I'll be at the second gig (hooray!!). I'll let you know how Stuart got along with Isobel... Have a nice evening then... Juliano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy.longcore at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 01:23:02 2001 From: amy.longcore at xxx.com (amy.longcore at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:23:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: say my name, say my name Message-ID: go ahead, i know you want to do it. applecore, hardcore, happy hardcore, grindcore, nerdcore, emocore.... go ahead, get it out of your system. aven after all of these years, i still kinda don't mind the "applecore" nickname. i'm an apple kinda girl, so i suppose it's fitting. james is correct, lansing is not "exciting". it's just right for me though. lots of people around that stay, and lots from all over that come and go....it's one of those cities that mixes the small town/big town feeling well for me. and it's so much closer to ann arbor, detroit, chicago...than i am now, yet still a quick trip home. i'll take isobel's spot. i love sao paulo. sorry, stuart, i can't sing worth a lick, but i do know all of the lyrics. yes, this little pink michigan snowflake has been to brazil. i've hardly been around the united states, but i did spend a month in brazil. oh man, isobel should have gone and sang "the girl from impanema" while in rio. come on, they'd have to. don't laugh at me. i have to confess that i subscribed to the list with both my home and work email adresses. this here's the why: no net at work, but email program readily at hand. lots of dead time at work for reading and writing. i wanted to leave myself the opporunity to decide which one i would most use once out of the nursery. i'm quite sure this is possible list abuse. i'm still trying to decide, so honey, don't hate me. give me the weekend to see. i'm thinking it will be here, my work addy. what a lovely diversion you've all created here for me. then you'll HAVE to always see my full and silly name. i'd probably miss you all on boring sunday afternoons with tea at home, but .... n e way. i'll take your invisible "alone again or" off of your hands any day. i love the simple whimsy of the song. sue me. goodness is the weather quite insane the last couple days. snow, hail, ice forming... what happened to autumn? give it back to me! there are still green leaves around, this just isn't right! i have this incredible mix tape in my car that i wanted to bring into work tonight.... (example tracks: "if you really love me" stevie wonder, "flourescences" stereolab, "silver nitrate" pram, "don't worry about the government" talking heads, "the workplace" jim o'rourke....), but i left it in my car. i had taken my cd for sinister and stuck it in the case for the boy with the arab strap so i could bring those 2 cds in tonight, left them on my dresser. i'm a musical loser. b&s song of the day for thursday; "pocketbook angel" well, better do a little work. write lots for me, kids. bye! Amy (home: dotsandloops at yahoo.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 01:41:18 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:41:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chop Chop Message-ID: <130.3986603.290a0b2e@aol.com> I can hear the scissors already. I looked in the phonebook today and got the number for a hair place in my area, already nervous for the upcoming events. Folks, I am going to get my hair cut properly on Saturday at 9:45. Scary. My mother has cut my hair for the past 16 years and now I'm getting it cut! It will now be about shoulder length instead of to my belly button. just thought i should tell you all much love sinister Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From petracotes at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 04:47:12 2001 From: petracotes at xxx.com (petracotes at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:47:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sinister people in montreal? Message-ID: hello everybody, this is your run-of-the-mill request for a sinister picnic in MONTREAL sarah and i, both quiet and shy members of this list, are humbly volunteering to organize such an event except it would probably take place at a nice warm coffeehouse the wind is just too violent these days so, all Montreal residents and other interested parties...please email me :) and, sidenote: are any of you seeing Spiritualized saturday night? -lucas Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aale002 at xxx.nz Fri Oct 26 05:02:05 2001 From: aale002 at xxx.nz (aale002 at xxx.nz) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:02:05 +1200 (GMT+12) Subject: Sinister: The Boy from the 'Bay responds to No One in Particular.... Message-ID: <1004155325.3bda31bd71459@webmail.ec.auckland.ac.nz> I made one of Rachel Fruitloop's uberposts! Yay for me! I'm almost faaaaamous, now; though not quite in the same league as the irrepressible Ken Chu, the lluverly Laura Llew, and the erudite, vicariously satisfying Stacey Dahling! I think I deserve a kebab and a beer to celebrate...... I'm just sitting here, listening to some old skool Van Morrison and feeling fine. As you do. And I must admit it's taking me back; at least as far as last week, anyways. (Have you noticed that I'm participating in the recent resurgence of semicolon use? I though you might.) Particularly, I'm remembering some of the exchanges between myself and two young charmers on #sinister, Kirsten Kenyon and Andreea. It may sound odd, but I constantly forget that other people find my family unusual. But really, who _ever_ thinks of their family as being unusual without intensive effort? Family is the soil from whence we bud and grow, and have you ever heard of a plant questioning the normalcy of the soil it arises from? I thought not. Statistically, my family history is unusual; moreso than you might first suspect. Yes, even as suspicious as you are. So, to play my part in our vision of an indie utopia, overflowing with shameless self promotion for the purposes of pulling as often and as well as possible, (and because I have another essay due) I shall henceforth proceed to provide a sketch of, what must surely be, one of The Most Unusual Families. I cannot begin at the beginning, for the beginning is a place with no memory. Memory always comes after. OK, here goes: my stepfather is gay and used to be a sailor, my mother's a widow, and I have a Maori sister and a step-brother and -sister who are half Malaysian. Confused? You should be. My father was an Italian immigrant, twenty years older than my mother. They adopted my sister, Kat, when I was five. Eight years later he died. After that, my mother moved up here to Auckland, soon followed by her friend, Pete. He had been married to a Malaysian woman, PG, and had two kids with her, Kim and Carl, but the marriage become increasingly strained, and they soon separated. Pete came out of the closet later that year, during their particularly messy separation (Kim went with her father, Carl stayed with his mother.) Then PG was diagnosed with cancer. She died within the year, and Carl, after much shuffling back and forth between PG's relatives, eventually made up with his father. Like my mother, Pete is a nurse, and he found work up here, moving in with her. They quickly went from being good friends to best friends, getting into all sorts of trouble. :) Kim and Carl moved in with them and my sister soon after. Then, last year, they finally achieved their dream of buying their own home here in Auckland, which they own together. Although Pete's gay, they share the same bed (too much information, I know!) and Pete's now unofficially my "stepfather". Kim is now living over in Australia with her boyfriend, Carl is still at home, studying to be a chef, and Kat lives with them, doing a little as possible and generally bringing disrepute to the already disreputable Alessi family name. :) So, there you go. All very The State I Am In, I must say. :) Right-o, that's me, Cunning Andre P.S. Has anyone yet found an answer to why on earth I can write the crappest essay in the history of the universe (for example, "Visual Attention and fMRI", which contained 12 pages of introduction in a 15 page document; or a discussion of St Anselm's ontological argument for the existence of God which was effectively a paraphrase of the lecture handout we were given, written by the lecturer) and still get the second highest marks in the class! Honestly, it's almost enough to make me want to go to the lecturer and complain. Almost.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Fri Oct 26 10:41:11 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:41:11 +200 Subject: Sinister: feeling strangely fine... Message-ID: yes, it's true, like a buckled and punctured tin of mushed peas (now there's a name screaming out for a twee band: another i've thought of recently, but i'm saving it for an appropriate post-subject* is "twee as fuck", which i think would be cool but commercially limiting), you are being spoilt by yet another e-mail from the southern horn of africa (actually, there is n such thing as the southern horn of africa, that is, outside the popular imagination and, daresay, at least a couple of cut- rate porn films, but it SOUNDS so picturesque - if you were reading out loud, that is). *which is not the same as post-modernism, only they're not COMPLETELY not the same: rule number one of successful philosophy scholarship (in answer to your qualms, andre): make sure you write in such a way that even if what you're thinking about COULD make sense, it DOESN'T. no lecturer will actually ever ADMIT that they don't know what you're saying, but will knowingly pretend to have been there long before you! (gosh-darn, what a mess of parentheses, i'm sorry, all, but i hope it improves mental agility) BUT WAIT! i'm sure i actually had stuff to say, and yes, i do, but you'll be disappointed, i know. for the last few days, i've had this really happy vibe (as in MUCH happier than i've been for a few months). euphoria, really, and... I HAD NO IDEA WHY!!! but don't worry (there, all breathe again), i've figured it out. it's all about a haircut see. (see kate, it's not all bad!). does that mean i'm boring? you tell me - or just shallow. but, whatever the case my be, shears seem to have done the trick. see, when last had my heart broken, i though fuck it, and shaved my head bare - which was silly for more than one reason, but mostly because it was the middle of winter, and since then had just let it grow. "i'm going for the beatles-cut", i'd faithfully assure myself whenever i'd momentarily make the mistake of glancing at a mirror. well, that's what i told myself, but really, i was just sulking without admitting it to myself. so monday, i thought (again) "fuck it" (i'm sorry honey, but i pull no punches, i tell it like it is, etc. - my inner life also seems to suffer from a tragically lacking vocabulary, and on its behalf i apologise), and set to with the scissor. slinkily alliterative snipping and shearing, sawing and secession of streaming strands of silky stuff succeeded speedily, and now i'm happy to report that my hair bears a striking resemblance to that of john squire, circa 1990. (in my opinion, this is a GOOD THING - i might als be wrong. anyway, so the moral of the story is: sometimes a little change can go a long way (ask any smoker at the end of a long month). (i tried to thnk of a suitably "my word"-y aphorism to bend here, but am clearly not fit to lick the brogues of the estimable messr.s muir and norden, who are truly grate! this was the best i could come up with: come on, kids, dye young! also, i have now finally caught up my backlog, and hence feel strong and confident about the coming year. we shall go from strength to strength, and never falter, nay, though the sun itself shall fall upon us. tomorrow should however be clear and sunny, with a light northeaster blowing in the afternoon. i WILL NOT keep you posted. (doesn't someone want to be a "will not!"? please - you'd be the hero of teenage sinistrines everywhere! i would, but i won't, recusing myself out of geographical considerations. besides, i have a lovely girl called rachel in one of my classes, and no wills, and hence feel obliged to throw my lot in with them, vicariously - i've got grate aim!) thanks to gina and vilkas (i'll get round to another reply sometime) for replying to the last post, and to rachel fruitloop for welcoming me back ( as well as all the other people who mentioned me - i'm a bit narcissistic that way!). love JohaN ps. i forgot to mention last time, but i seem to shar my birthday with stevie! yay! capricorns of the world unite, you have nothing lose except your inhibitions! pps. also, i can't for the life of me remember whose album title the subject comes from. if it's from someone really terrible - yes, i am embarassed. sorry! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 14:29:55 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 06:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I like me, I know you like me and I'm going to help you like you Message-ID: <20011026132955.E6E952756@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From psi_fla at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 16:03:20 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:03:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Degeneration, indeed Message-ID: <00cb01c15e2f$71224630$03c8193e@fallahome> Hello again everyone. I once said I couldn't wait for uni to start again; well, maybe I should reconsider. The work is piling in on me, yet I'm doing enough. One of my projects this semester is a website (which I'm working on at the moment), and part of it is to be on The Divine Comedy. My favourite band for the last two years. But they are no more, I hear most of you cry. Yes, I know (I have been around many DC sites in the past few days) but I'll proceed with the site anyway. Ah well. What a shame. What was it that caused the split anyway, I wonder? Was it the poor sales of Regeneration? Then again, Liberation and Promenade never did that well either. Some of their albums don't seem to get the credit they deserve. I'll admit I was annoyed to see Regeneration selling for only £9.99 in Virgin a few months ago. OK, tonight I'm off to sing in my first concert for the local Operatic Society. I'm going to need a lot of luck. Before I go - good to see you are all paying tribute to TDC in some way or another. And Stu - You said "..apparently Neil Hannon will still be recording for the same label, and since he wrote all the songs anyway, it shouldn't be too traumatic, but still." Yes, it shouldn't be too traumatic. TDC have had different line-ups before, and Neil will be recording for Parlophone. But if there is a new line-up, will it be as good? And, that was a good title for your message - you can see I've borrowed it. Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Fri Oct 26 17:17:11 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: an old photograph Message-ID: 6:59 on a Friday morning. Any second the alarm clock will go off. The sunlight's pouring in but I can barely make out the photo on the dresser without my glasses. Just patches of blue and green in an old gold frame. It's you standing in front of a cafe - there! shelter from the rain. I took off my jacket for you, but there your arm is raised to reveal skin fine and white. Oh, take care! Skipping across the gravel in your impossible shoes - those thin ankles! - you never tottered once. Peacocks stepped aside for you. I walked two steps behind, thinking of your dress that night out on the dance floor. I wasn't 'a pathetic teenage wreck'. I wasn't 'the iconco destruction pass man'. But you led me through a maze - right, left, no your other left, back to front - lost again! So I fell in upon myself and stared at my reflection in a pool. Til the alarm called me back. Thank goodness for that! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lostbs at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 17:46:31 2001 From: lostbs at xxx.com (Helen Beltrame) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:46:31 -0200 Subject: Sinister: First post and stuff Message-ID: Hello everyone! Yesterday was my first day out of nursery and my first b&s concert (is that an amazing coincidence or what?). I guess that pretty much explains why I didn't send this post yesterday - there was too much going on! Some of you may not recognize this email, but it's Helen here, I just created this account here for the list. So, my name is Helen, I'm from Brasil, and the rest we'll find out in time 'cause I have to talk about the concert! Ok, so... This is the first time I left a concert frustrated. Let me explain: they played 17 songs, 2 of the from Brasil, it was really great and wonderful and everything but: I wanted them to play ALL their songs! Can you understand that? When we left, I wanted to go home and listen to all the cds, I wanted to listen to all the songs they hadn't played: b&s is something that I can't get enough of. Also, most of the people who went to the concert didn't really love b&s (there were around 4,000 people), which means they weren't singing every song and crying and all that groupie stuff. That made me absolutely want to go to a b&s concert in Scotland, so I'm asking you scotties to let me know about any gigs coming up. Maybe I'll get to go to Scotland and get to know your said-to-be beautiful country. Hopefully, today is my second b&s concert!! :) (Well, they came to Brasil for two concerts, one in S�o Paulo and the other one in Rio de Janeiro. I live in S�o Paulo but yesterday I took a plane to Rio, went to the concert and came back to S�o Paulo this morning to work...) Thanks for listening! Feel free to write, Helen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 18:57:46 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel .) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:57:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: how bad can a day get? Message-ID: hi. oooh, right. how bad can a day get..? really! this sucks. i don't know what to do with myself. it's my birthday today. i should be glad! but ofcourse i'm not. i haven't told my parents that it's over with hans.. i don't want to tell them. they wouldn't understand. oh. i don't like them at all for the moment! but then, who do i really like right now? not my boyfriend. oh. EX boyfriend. not that bitch monica, who stole him from me! and not my friends, because they're really mean to me. can you belive that they actually said "ooh, didn't you know? we thaught that you knew about nelli" and i'm like.. "nelli?? who the fuck is nelli?" and then they... well, kind of laughs their ass' off. oh. lovely friends, eh? god, i really hate them! they don't care about peoples feelings at all, it seems like. oh, oh, oh. sadness and all. i'm crying, yes. but maybe i shouldn't. they're not worth my tears. oh. i'm so sorry to bother you all with my sadness. but it's the absolute worst birthday ever! though... i did get some nice records, and a new amp to my guitar. and... well... i just have got to thank all of you people who've written to me. everyone on sinister is sooo nice! and a special greeting to the very lovely astrid, who's ill and all. hope you'll get well soon darling! love, rachel o.j. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Fri Oct 26 20:37:55 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:37:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it's true I don't want to join the army or turn lathes in precision parts factories, I'm nearsighted and psychopathic anyway. In-Reply-To: <20011026132955.E6E952756@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20011026193755.21324.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> not my shoulder. anyhow. not for me. oh. I should start carrying a notepad again. my recollections would be so much more accurate. I saw the lucksmiths on saturday. not saturday. wednesday. it was fun. with nice people. and, later, with the guitarists. friendly. and the drummer, too [but gone.], seemed friendly. he was a stand-up guy. as jimmy conway would say. jamie conway? he isn't here. sometimes I forget. last I heard of him was that he was seen smashing the windscreen of a car in with a baseball bat. larger then life. I should imagine. perhaps I could catch a matinée. less effort required than catching a manatee. I keep imagining. yes. university gardens. a fire. some firemen. some people said they liked the badge I've taken to wearing. they know a good badge when they see one. and I wouldn't mind having any one of them in my posse. I almost put on an accent there. I'm no good with accents. really. better with apostrophes. but. still. mandee wright said I was the only boy she'd ever heard of that read henry james by choice. what does that imply? that could be construed as a sexist remark. like. boys are too immature to appreciate or to...? I dono. it had 'screw' in the title. stacey said I didn't gloat an awful lot when I beat her [and germany too. yeah.] at scrabble. she's right. I didn't. and I can't fathom [phantom too] why not. I TOTALLY BEAT THE TWO OF THEM. COMPLETELY. MORE THAN ONCE. AND I NEVER EVEN HAD GOOD LETTERS. I did MENTION it though. earlier. I concluded with: 'highscoring: it's lonely at the top'. or something in a similar style. you see. in a record store. and stacey didn't know of randy newman. so I added it. for effect. it affected me anyhow. and stacey with her link posting. to photos. ones that weren't approved of. or. known of? well. I don't mind. I suppose. stevie REVERB. at nice 'n' sleazy's. on saturday. not wednesday. and kids from the ppiiccnniicc in dundee. mister REVERB opens with 'lonely at the top'. by randy newman. he's been spying on me. I guess. 'and all the money...I have made'. he sprinkles a pocketful of loose change at his feet. they prepare for the next song. he realises that his plectrum was amongst his loose change. I say 'wonderwall'. and they give it a go. a good go. and after all... oh. COPYCAT http://home.earthlink.net/~mozzystars/_uimages/steviemefan_9-5.jpg http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/g/picb20.jpg I know which was taken first. I checked. but. hm. I figure he must've seen me around town with it on, got one himself and decided the only place he could wear it and not be the cause of one of those faux pas things [I can pluralise 'false step' easily but] was america. the far side. of it. link posting: what next? thanks for the photos. will. and tina. and for bringing this attempt at imitation to my attention. oatmeal to 'flight of the navigator' may be more impressive than it sounds. I do hope so. but my standards for connection enjoyance have been raised significantly. right? right. today. someone asked me if I wrote any poetry. I told them I thought I had. thinking is funny. sometimes I think I only started thinking last week. or the week before. next week? what will I think? sometimes I think I use 'sometimes I think...' too often. sometimes I know I do. sometimes I don't care. sometimes. I do. sometimes I think all I do is think. yeah. sometimes I know I do. sometimes I know I don't do. but. think. sometimes I don't think. or do. sometimes I wish. too. sometimes I wish that people I admire for their strong will could be easily swayed by my opinions or feelings. sometimes I wish that people wouldn't try to persuade me of or to do something when I don't want to be persuaded of or to do it. sometimes I wish people would try to persuade me of or to do something when I seem like I don't want to be persuaded of or to do it. sometimes some things are all of the time. alltimes. . I'm enjoying my time where I am. I seem to have more time to be reading. or maybe I'm making it. at the expense of other things. that deserve time equally. and, perhaps, more urgently. and the rustle of an ashtrayful of cigarette ashes sounds comforting. and the dulled murmur of nearby drunken spaniards through the window or the door seems less annoying than it might. although. some that should, they say, make you feel better. relaxed. and all. have made me feel otherwise. and I don't like it. and I'll have to decide what to do about it. so. I'm reading 'a portrait of the artist as a young man'. I'm enjoying it. I've never read any james joyce before. but I sort of liked the idea of it a whole lot. I have copies. I have had for a long time. my mother's one of 'the dubliners'. on my shelf. for years. which version of 'ulysses' is favored? aw, where did u get to? they say that when books have been translated a number of times by a number of different people that you can get really not so great translations. and really great ones. I don't know how the version of 'don quixote' I read half of compares. I will read book two eventually. I don't think it's funny that I've been saying that for more than...some months. I only brought a few books with me when I moved. ones I intended on reading. and a few that I'd read previously. some of them by jim thompson. 'the killer inside me'. kinda fun. they made a film of it in the seventies. with stacy keach. he was in the one of 'the heart is a lonely hunter' too. someone said something about a carson mccullers tattoo. jim thompson wrote 'the grifters'. yeah. that one that they did with john cusack and angelica huston and annette bening. it was good. I don't like 'high fidelity'. much at all. jim thompson wrote 'the getaway'. that one they did with steve mcqueen and ali mcgraw. I like that film. I don't like the other one. probably. I prefer the book to either. I'm sure. I read 'the great gatsby' earlier this week. a guy I know insists it is about an escapologist. he hasn't read it. I considered rewriting this post and replacing every word with another: 'me'. I think it would have read quite well. but I reconsidered. I left my umbrella in a lecture theatre yesterday. it may be gone for good. I expect much rainfall next week. I impressed some baseball capped australians on the train by knowing who wrote 'sons and lovers'. it wouldn't suprise me to find the name 'garnet' [it's a name] inherently linked to the name 'bentley'. or. that it's simply an anagram of it. sorry. it's the same as ever. perhaps. apparently I found the finest axe. then I'd say: we now need to find a stone axe. me. richard. ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoffpritchard at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 02:35:20 2001 From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:35:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: people at my work actually say 'RE' in conversation Message-ID: <002101c15e87$a522c600$53fb883e@oemcomputer> Its been a year now since I stopped reading every Sinister post so I'm a bit behind on what's going on. It's also a year since I got a job-the two events may be connected. If anything major's gone down in the last few months, can someone let me know. If anything big has happened regarding Belle and Sebastian or Sinister too, can you also let me know please. And before you say I'm lazy, may I remind you that I have hoovered my room today. I'm a bit disappointed that no one has been properly celebrating the demise of The Divine Comedy to the full. I had my own little partA, the climax of which was the ritual burring of an effigy of Neil Hannon. My hatred of The DC comes from their release of 'Something for the weekend' at the same time as SFA anthem 'Something 4 the weekend'. These records were distinguishable by far more than a numerical word... The SFA tune was destined to become THE song of the mid nineties, all set to steal Sleeper's Vegas crown like a thief in the night. It was only a matter of time before it got to no.1 in the hitparade and turned the masses into a covert unit that would bring down the government, end slavery in Luxembourg, and possibly stop buying manufactured pop records. Antichrist Minor-star Hannon had other ideas though. This new world order was'nt for him and his cigar puffing cronies, and he deliberately set out to confuse the record buying public by releasing said tune. His evil plan worked: the people stalled, SFA's song bombed, and the world remained the hell on earth place it is today. I went to see the still-together SFA at Brixton the other week, and I'm pretty sure that inbetween each rippin tune, Gruff made an anti-DC comment. He didn't actually say anything, but you could tell in his eyes what he was thinking. And if you think all this is hear'say, notice that last week, National Express Coaches announced major drops in profit. On a lighter note, I saw 'Her Boychart' legend Harvey Williams at the SFA gigster. He seemed slightly surprised the some half pisst kids who should know better recognised him. Me and my mate were more surprised though when he knocked around with us for the half an hour before the show. I was unhappy that I couldn't get him to re-release Her Boychart so it could get the credit it deserved. Maybe he'll save it for his 2018 comeback tour when the Trembling Blue Stars become his backing band. Whatever people say about Harv, Gruff or Hannon, at least they don't wear Slipknot style masks. I really struggle to understand how anyone could think that whole Slipknot thang is anything but utter tripe. Stop me if you've heard this one before but, the 'Knot once played a gig near my house and during the 'performance', one of the crazy chaps jumped from the balcony into the mosh and broke a fans back/collar bone/finger. Rather unfairly though, the Slipknot daredevil was wearing lots of protective clothing. I'm not sure if this story made the NME. I imagine it did not as the popular music paper (or should that be 'popular music' paper) could not possibly diss it's bestist band. Did any of you bigwigs used to be in awe of the NME. I know I did: all those clever journos bigging up new bands from Mansfield that within weeks were everywhere. I used to feel naive reading it, and I imagined everyone laughing about how much I didn't know. But whenever I read it now, I get embarrassed for the NME itself. I still don't know much about music, for example I just found out that The Almighty Clash didn't write 'I Fought the Law', but even I can see what's going on with bands like Korn, Roach, Cradle of Filth, Bizkit and Shitknot (what happened to Spinal Tap?). These sort of bands would have been laughed off a few years ago as non-4real, money making bullslip, whereas now their sold to us as the future. The NME ended when Marylyn Manson first appeared on the front, but I guess if they feel its more important to shift units and please the advertisers than to be any good, then so be it. I think I can hear Melody Maker spinning in it's watery grave. Summing up: I saw the Quantum Leap the other day where Sam is an old timer who plays Hendrix on his grandsons electic gutair. Does anyone think that the last ever episode of QL has the same feelings as Dylan's Desolation Row. I've never spoke to anyone who is aware of (and preferably in love with) both of these of these works, so if you fall into this category, please, please offer me an opinion, even if you're wrong. Time for bed I think. Me, not you. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 09:17:47 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Days of Fall this year seem somewhat more harsh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011027081747.63382.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister, I have not written the list in some time, for what reason I do not know, nothing that compelling. Instead i have been spending my days doing technical writing and watching Miyazaki films. I have actually refrained from listening to Belle and Sebastian in private, mainly out of the fact that the songs are now appearing in my daily life, and not so much an escape. It is still very comforting to hear them though. The autum here is a bit more harsh, the normally beautiful vermont october has been somewhat mundane as many trees were skeletal from the drought long before they can show thier fall colors. It is making me wish for a snowy winter, so I have some beauty in my life. There is very little beauty right now in the world, but i am trying very hard to find it. This probably explains my recent obsession over Miyazaki. Hopefully winter will come, I miss the snow. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars The fog and the sunlight overshadow what is really the point sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s.arnot at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 15:12:09 2001 From: s.arnot at xxx.com (s.arnot at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:12:09 BST Subject: Sinister: dancing through the frustration Message-ID: <20011027141259.QHNS16962.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> hi there. in huddersfield there is a quite cool indie night on a thursday in a club called 'the camel club'. i have become more and more impressed by this club in recent weeks, as, in addition to playing 'she's losing it', ther overall quality of the music is improving. for instance, last week they played pavement and kenickie. this week they played sleater-kinney and 'u-mass' by pixies. i danced. i didn't get drunk though, because i had just had a rather nasty phonecall from my mum telling me to stop spending so much money. they had just got my bank statement through, you see, and apparently i managed to spend £960 in my first four weeks at uni. whoops. since then i have also purchased my mogwai and white stripes tickets. oh well. i'll have to get a job i suppose. the last couple of weeks at said club have also been improved by the appearance of a pair of (sisters/friends?), this week in his and hers hefner t-shirts. impressive, seeing as the indie child population of huddersfield seems to be practically zero. despite wearing a belle and sebastian badge almost every day since i arrived i can count the number of comments about that on the useful fingers of one of eminem's hands. last night i saw a vey happy band, called the unfinished sympathy. despite the fact that they were peddling only slightly above average sub-jawbox emo, this was made up for by their sheer happiness. they are spanish, and were so happy to be touring in the uk that almost the entire band went through the set with huge grins on their faces, and kept thanking everyone and telling them how happy they were. made my evening. i'm going to see more bands tonight. i will then stop spending money until next thursday. i need a (free) housebound mission to fill my waking hours. a letter-writing spree probably. my last post returned exactly no posts from any listees in huddersfield, so i am extending the bounaries to leeds. please contact me! please! pretty please! i will reveal to you my new discovery of the greatest food know to humankind! and it will bring you grate happiness! :) how can i get involved in a tape-making competition, as i am fairly proud of my mad skillz? i am not sure if that last question required a question mark. oh well. thanks a lot piddlemonkey -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 21:12:06 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Just suppose I'm juxtaposed with you... Message-ID: <20011027201206.48623.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> HELOOOOOOO SINISTERINES! You may notice that I have added "fruitloop" to my name on this e-mail account, to lessen the confusion between myself and Rachel O.J... I have found that if I lose track of reading all of the Sinister posts, that it takes DAYS to sort through them. But I won't let down anyone who is looking for my posts as "Cliff Notes" of sorts (as if anyone would be *waiting* for my post!) So, you know this post is going to be huge, but it covers a lot of things happening in the world of Sinister. You may even find your name mentioned in here! Sheesh, I feel like I'm writing a gossip column!! err, well... anyway, I've divided the comments loosely into topics to heighten your reading pleasure. ************************FAMILY/HOME WOES************************ Hold onto your hat, cunning Andre, I'm mentioning you AGAIN!!! I know what it's like to have annoying roomates. I live with 2 members of my bizarre family, my younger brother and sister (unusual in a different way than yours is!) My sister ROCKS, she is one of my best friends and is obsessed with Super Furry Animals. My brother is another story. It's so odd that since my brother ran off and got married, our household has been so peaceful without him. I never realized how much he took advantage until he left. Andre, I hope you can stick it out until you can move and keep your sanity! Caleb Ben has pissed off his roommate Ballad (Ballad? Shit, I'd probably call him "Livin' On A Prayer," that would really get him mad, of course I'd never know it, would I?!) Well, CB, AKA RAW... I don't envy you. These family/roommate situations get messy sometimes, don't they?! You aren't going to believe that I am about to link this to my bizarro family: Big Stu wrote of a concoction called WKD: "it may be in some way responsible for me feeling as rough as a badger's crotch this morning." I was highly amused by this quote, in fact, I almost put it in the section at the end with my favorite quotes. The reason I really like it, though, is because my paternal grandmother's nickname is "Badger". No lie. She even signs her e-mails to me "Love, Granny Badger" So I found it very amusing that Big Stu woke up feeling as rough as my granny's crotch! *******************MUSIC: TDC-RIP, SFA, B&S********************* There has been quite a bit of mourning on the list over the breakup of The Divine Comedy, mainly from PSI who wrote: "Before I go - good to see you are all paying tribute to TDC in some way or another." I will pay tribute by listening to "Something For The Weekend" which is my favorite Divine Comedy song. Actually, I might not, after what GEOFF had to say: "My hatred of The DC comes from their release of 'Something for the weekend' at the same time as SFA anthem 'Something 4 the weekend'. These records were distinguishable by far more than a numerical word..." OH CRIKIE, I am a dumb American valley girl and I didn't even *think* about the correlation! Super Furry Animals ROCK MY WORLD (thanks to my kid sister)!!! OK I'll pay tribute to the demise of the Divine Comedy by listening to SFA's "Something 4 The Weekend" instead! Anyone else out there still listening to SFA's new album 3 or 4 times a day? Ernie wrote:"And to think that they did �Don�t Fear the Reaper� by Blue Oyster Cult at the Olympia who but nobody has mentioned it! Attendees of shows, please provide us with more reviews if possible!" Yeah, I want to hear more about this, too! I am amazed at how many songs B&S have covered! I'd like to see a list of cover songs that they have played live... does one exist or can we compile one? James the Dancin'-Hatchback wrote about the new "Waking Up To Us":"I think after a few more listen's I'll really like it. Cay pointed out that they seem to be going in a very 60's direction lately and that sounds good to me." I haven't heard it yet, but I am so excited that it's apparently going in that '60's direction, because I REALLY loved "legal Man" for that reason! And Histrianic H wrote: "Yes, I have a new blue fender strat!!!" OHHHH That's grate! Do you name your instruments? I do. I named my car, too. My guitar is named Louise. My car is named Ziggy Stardust! OH, OH - Another "Car Christening" Kirsten Kenyon wrote: "mandee wright is completely rad because she can link oatmeal to the flight of the navigator and also because she just named my car "spacepet." Oatmeal? Flight of The Navigator? What?! Spacepet! A good name for a car! Welcome to Amy in Michigan! Amy wrote: "i'm curious if anyone out there has an mp3 of belle and sebastian doing "alone again or" live. i'm so enchanted with the idea of them doing that song and am dying inside to hear it." And then the PINEFOX (did I just write that? No! It's your imagination!) wrote: "If I had it I would send it to you. Not just a copy, but my copy. It would be a good thing to get rid of. The song is way overrated." AND THEN Amy wrote: "i'll take your invisible "alone again or" off of your hands any day. i love the simple whimsy of the song. sue me." AND THEN THE PINEFOX SUED AMY APPLECORE! Well, not yet. I'm waiting for the next installment!! *bites nails* ***********MIXTAPE BATTLE OF WILLS v. RACHELS v. CHRIS'*********** AMY APPLECORE, you really should consider becoming "Rachel Apple Jacks" I read what you wrote about making a mix tape and I liked what I read. And I LOVE "Alone Again or" and I think I'd LOVE IT EVEN MORE if I heard B&S play it. So if you get a copy of that, let me know! I want to tell ya, well, you don't have to BE a Rachel to be a Rachel, ya know! This is the last call for participants! We will begin at some point next week, so any of you out there who want to participate, please send me a note! I'm talkin' to you, PIDDLEMONKEY!! I think we can manage to come up with a breakfast related name for you as well... hmm... how about "Rachel Griddlemonkey"? Archel Toast wrote: "so, the mix tape battle commences! the rachels have far too much style and charm not to win. (plus we're all sleeping with the judge, obviously. see you later, ken.)" And then Will Spike said : "But we have better puns with our name. Through sheer Will power, we will prevail and prove once and for all where there is a Will, there is a way." You Wills may have better puns with your name, but we Rachels have better BUNS with our name! *wink, nudge* Johan wrote of joining the battle: "i would, but i won't, recusing myself out of geographical considerations. besides, i have a lovely girl called rachel in one of my classes, and no wills, and hence feel obliged to throw my lot in with them, vicariously - i've got grate aim!)" I have one thing to say about that: !VIVA RACHELS! David the Stankin' Cooter wrote: "WILLS VS RACHELS VS CHRISES MIXTAPE CHALLENGE MADNESS Um, I�d love to join in this one as an honorary somethingorother with a humorous nickname, but unfortunately I don�t have a tape deck. If any of you would like me on your team, though, please email me for my postal address. You can then post Ken Chu out to me directly, and I�ll play him some songs round at my place, making sure to swap the CDs over really quickly between songs. It�s the next best thing, I promise you." Ok, David, sounds like a deal! But if there is a pink necktie around the doorknob, come 'round in about an hour (or should we say 2 hours, Mr. "Red Bull" Chu? tee hee!) And for participating in such a proactive way, I think we should call you "Rachel Stankin' Doughnut". Marybeth wrote: "R is for Rachel A is for achel C is for chel H is for hel E is for el L is for l" I nearly lost it when I read that! It's ridiculously funny! Thanks for being our cheerleader, Marybeth! Paul Arathoon wrote: "All of this talk about rachels, wills etc makes me dizzy. It's very confusing." Don't worry Paul, the Rachels are about to erase the confusion by making the BEST MIXTAPE EVER! Jim Gilmer wrote:"I have to say, I don't think I want to be a Rachel or a Will. No, I'm quite happy staying a Jim, sometimes even a James, and very rarely a Jimmy or Jimmy G." How 'bout a Jamie? I love that name. It's sexy. Thanks for complimenting the mix cd you heard that I had made for dear Elise! Even though your vouch for my mixtape prowess doesn't seem to intimidate the Wills, that's ok. We know. *************THE GREAT NURSERY HEIST OF 2001*********************** Welcome to Helen from Brazil who is saw B&S 2 days in a row!!! Caleb Ben has been busy organizing his translation game with Helen and the gang! Welcome to Tina, who is just out of the nursery and posted her site link with lots of cool B&S pictures--including 2 of me and Dustin Smartly-dressed dancing onstage with them and looking like dorky demons! Whooo! Thanks Tina! I am so happy to have proof that it wasn't all a dream! Also welcome to Jason from Ottawa!! And hello to Erin from Seattle (but California by trade!)! And Alex in NY!!! And Hello Eric in NY! And Fabio and Maira in Brazil, who got to see B&S!!!! I want to know how you all managed to escape from the nursery without my dear sweetie Ryan!! Ryan, were you busy playing video games and missed your chance to climb over the little plastic gate? AND A HUGE WELCOME TO KENNETH P Y CHU! What a coincidence that you share the same name and same town of residence with the legendary listee, Ken Chu! I hope no Rachels wind up in the wrong Ken Chu's bed in the process of trying to swing the mixtape battle our way! ;) *****************LOVE, ROMANCE, & LACK THEREOF***************** JohnJohn wrote a lovely observation of two birds he saw: "but even the birds� love could be shattered; there�s always competition." But you could be the better pecker, so don't despair! And Lindsey wrote: "oops, i thought i loved you, but i was just kidding?" Whoa, that's so appropriate for some events in my life lately, too. What a joke, huh?! Linds, I know what it's like soul sistah! And Rachel O.J. had a birthday, but unfortunately had her heart broken Thursday when she found another girl in her boyfriend's bed (this sounds all too familiar to me. See my birthday at the end of last month!!) Rach wrote: "he said "i really did love you" did he HAVE to say that? as if it didn't hurt enough." Again, Rach, this is ringing SO true to me!!! Don't you just want to say you're a self-indugent prick, if you really did love me you would have been a man and told the truth in the first place instead of being a deceitful coward! Guys, we have so much more respect for you if you'll just be honest with us girls. You have to know that we're going to find out the truth eventually and the deceit hurts far worse than your actual "change of plans." Respecting us enough to be upfront and honest really does make a difference. Ulla wrote of her lost love: "i still felt that maybe i was doing something wrong and i became more and more silent. until there was nothing to say really." Oh boy, this is not good for your self-esteem! I have the problem of taking it all in like it was my fault, too, but you have to preserve your self-esteem and know that he was the coward and instead of being honest with you, he was just mean and wore you down, until he successfully pushed you away. You don't need a boy like this in your life. You're far too grate for that stupidity. ON A HAPPY NOTE, Laura Llew's gentleman caller, Mr. Breams wrote his tale of being in the presence of said goddess. awww! It's so cute! Caleb Ben AKA RAW wrote: "it's so nice to know that someone out there is thinking about you, smiling to themselves and writing down their heartbeats to send to you." YAY!!!!! That's so lovely! I think list crushes are so cute!!!! I'm developing a brand new one... It's a long story! Maybe I'll talk about crushes in my next post! *******WRITINGS: IN JOURNALS, IN ZINES, ON THE WALL**************** Stacey Dahling wrote 3 very lovely and detailed posts about her UK travels meeting up with Sinisterines and having revelations! Thanks for sharing, I felt like I was there with you. And I wish I could keep a journal as diligently as you can! Gordon, your post with over a week of your life yet to come was fab! You're so silly and I adore the way you let it show! Ken Chu fought in a war with a vending machine and lost. And I got scared because I really thought he got mugged by something human!! You're so clever!! Brier Random wrote the subject line "I'm going back to new york city, I do believe I've had enough" and then said in his P.S. "Thanks to the Beastie Boys for providing my subject line via Bob Dylan, who produced the text from whence was ripped." I was excited that I got that one, I dunno why! Not why I got it, that's because i listen to the Beastie Boys, but why I was so excited by it. Maybe I'm just excited that Brier is so clever! It was a perfect subject line for his post about going to NYC. I hope you have a grate trip! I hope you go to the huge Toys R Us in Times Square. I want to go. Rich. Gill. is reading books that have "Screw" in the title because he's a boy! ;) Mark Hester notified us: "Struan has been mentioned in PHYSICS WORLD, of all places!" He also mentioned a gig being ruined by shit djs and opening bands, which I have experienced as well. You said "Paul Haswell" and it reminded me of a girl I used to know from Florida who met a "Paul Haswell" on the internet and ran off with him and got married. So watch your list crushes, OK people! Someone posted that a listee had a hand in writing a review on the 2nd B&S show in L.A. in Mojo Magazine!! I'm going to look for that issue right away. And sorry I accidentally deleted that post before i could give credit to the 2 said people reporting... but thanks, that's so GRATE!!!! Idleberry wrote: "We�ve decided to make the cover a different colour for every issue. Its very simple. There�s no pictures on the front, or contents lists or anything. Just the name of the fanzine written across it diagonally." Brilliant, I think! I'd buy that zine and, furthermore I'd like to collect that zine not just because of the cover, but because it seems pretty cool. So, how would one go about doing that? Youn wrote a beautiful post about an old photograph and an alarm clock. Will Salt posted a grate description of the Dundee picnic last weekend, with full McGonagall-like verse! Well done, my man! Well done! I'm glad that you all had a wonderful time! ********************SOME OTHER STUFF****************************** I KNOW darn well that I shouldn't mention THE PINEFOX AGAIN (right Robster? Right Big Stu?) but The Pinefox wrote: "It's nothing like Bonnie Tyler" So I have to say that I was excited to read this because I have been known to wail "Turn around, Briigghhhhht eyes!" whilst walking through the supermarket with a very embarrassed best friend. It's not that she isn't a "fan" of Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" (well, actually she isn't) it's just that I don't care if people look at us when I sing along to the bad music piped in to my shopping experience! She does. Ken Chu wrote this, which is nearly enough to get him a crush vote: "I just thought I'd mention a fox made of pine, cos that somewhat rhymed." Of course the crush vote would be from the PF, not from me! Well, okay, maybe from me... Poor ill Astrid wrote: "i always watched macgyver when i was a kid, but my mum had to read the sublines for me, i hadn�t learnt to read by then." The thought of MacGyver with subtitles to me is hilarious! I used to watch the show, too. That's how I learned to make a bomb out of a stick of chewing gum, the wrapper and some coca-cola. I hope that info wasn't lost in the translation. Speaking of losing in the translation, the game that a handful of us are doing, translating b&s lyrics from language to language to see what we end up with is going to be really funny, I think! Kate is getting her hair cut, and wrote: "It will now be about shoulder length instead of to my belly button." Just be sure that you don't change your mind at the last second and put up a hand to block the scissors and end up cutting yourself again!!! :) *************Favorite Quotes From Recent Posts********************** Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester wrote my most favorite statement of all: "you had to PAY to get into St. Paul's Cathederal. It's a CHURCH for CRISSAKE." Richard Gillanders wrote my second favorite statement: "perhaps I could catch a matin�e. less effort required than catching a manatee. I keep imagining." ****************************IN CLOSING************************ I want to say that it's exciting to have all of the new kids out of the nursery. I love reading about all of the interactons between you lot all over the world, and it makes me feel a lot less lonely. Shout outs to THE RACHELS (Rachael in Australia, are you in for the mixtape battle?) and to Beautiful Elsie and Sean, Juju Cat, Katie Cheeriodle, Kirsten Kenyon, Ernie, Danny Farrell, and of course, that special boy Ryan. Until next time... Love to all of you, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 22:40:45 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel .) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:40:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the magic of a kind word Message-ID: lovely sinisterees, it feels like i�m harrassing you with all my writing, but i don't have anything else to do right now. sorry! so, exactly two days has passed by since i caught my boyfriend with another girl. i think that i'm starting to accept it now. i'm not mad at him anymore (as i was before), i guess i'm more disappointed than angry. of course, i get mad when i think of him as the asshole he really is, but in the maintime i see him as that lovely, caring and sweet person that he, well, used to be. i loved him... oh. ok, i shouldn't lie. i still love him very much, and i do hate (it's a strong word, i know, but i really do!!) that bitch monica. she doesn't even look very good. and she's not his kind. not at all! i guess he'll realise that in a while and come crawling back to me. and at that time (i hope) that i've got strong enough to say no to him. and tell him how unbelievable much he hurt me, and so on. that's the right kind of girlpower. oh, but the word girlpower just makes me think of the spice girls, and that's really nothing i want to do! i saw a bad chash quartet (a very good band for you who doesn't know) video at MTV today. ooh. they're just so grate! from sweden, i think. just like eskobar. they're lovely too! and that gorgeous singer! daniel. ooh. lovely, lovely! they were in norway like... a week ago, maybe more. a promotion-tour. and yes, i did have the luck to watch them, live, doing a promo-gig at this tv-show. daniel's the gratest! and as i speak of sweden... i'll probably be moving quite soon now. it's just "small details" that have to be fixed. like, where we're going to live. oh, sometimes they're so stupid, my adoptive parents! to get away from everything at home, i'll be going to england for a couple of days to visit my mother. i got the tickets today. wee! there's nothing better than her flat in london! i'll be going on my own this time. the very first time actually. ooh. nice, i guess. but i admit that i'm quite nervous about it. she told me on the phone that she's met a guy. i wonder what he's like. let's hope that he listens to good music, or else i won't like him. well, last, but definitely not least, i've got to thank you all for your support (oh, now i sound like i've won an oscar! hee hee). no, but rally, you're so sweet! all the kind things that you've written to me, it has made me feel a bit better. so lots of hugs and kisses to you! love, rachel o.j _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sun Oct 28 00:05:06 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 00:05:06 Subject: Sinister: swedish, nick valensi and hiphop. Message-ID: <179499049@spray.se> Yes, variety in the subject line? The lovely Rachel Fruitloop wrote: Poor ill Astrid wrote: "i always watched macgyver when i was a kid, but my mum had to read the sublines for me, i hadn´t learnt to read by then." The thought of MacGyver with subtitles to me is hilarious! I used to watch the show, too. That's how I learned to make a bomb out of a stick of chewing gum, the wrapper and some coca-cola. I hope that info wasn't lost in the translation. And, I guess it looks quite silly with those little lines in swedish. But I mean, my friend Marika was in Spain, and she´s obsessed with "Friends", and during her holiday, she got ill, and one day she saw: Friends in spanish! How weird isn´t THAT? I mean, subtitles are so much better, than when films and stuff are translated into swedish. But the gratest was my sweet friend Carl Henrik, who with horror told me how his life actually changed when he heard "Bond... je m´appelle James Bond", and how he suddenly got aware that it is so much in life that he should be thankful for, like not having to suffer from bad translations into your own language. I like being swedish though, because I get an extra language, and there´s loads of fabolous swedish music. Actually, that is what my mixtape that I´m sending Tom will have. Only swedish music. Whilst making the a-side this night, I realised hwo much good music there really is. I went to a demonstration today, against USA bombing Afghanistan and letting the innocent people of Afghanistan suffer for it. The only one´s that could make it was my friend Emma, whom I actually believe is CUTENESS in person, she´s so cute you just want to eat her, and another friend of mine, Indra, who was ill as well. I´ve been home since wednesday, so I thought it would be grate to get out a bit. But it rained, and the speaches were held at a big open place in Stockholm, and after a while, I was feeling so bad that I couldn´t stand up, I had to sit and hold onto my friends cords, so that I wouldn´t lose my already poor balance. It was horrible, just walking those maybe 100 metres to the subway felt horrible, as if I would die or something, I don´t know why but I was feeling so bad, my legs were shaking, I had gone all pale and I was very dizzy. So on the bus home, I´d lay with my head in Indra´s lap and she´d just look at me and say "Oh sweetie!". But when I got home and took a painkiller, and after like an hour, I was cured, fully! I was (almost) dancing, or at least nodding along to the music with my head. I´ve fallen in love with Nick Valensi (the strokes) which is VERY bad due to a couple of reasons: 1. I´ve been having the "Uh, the strokes, such, they´re just so ordinary and overrated, uh" and now I want the album.I´ve heard it and all of the sudde it got really good. 2. My friends will harass me til the day I die because I´ve been getting known as the one who is AGAINST the strokes. 3. It´s always sad to be obsessed with celebreties. But it is my sad story. Sad, huh? Well, I am mostly in love with Stuart Murdoch. No, there is another boy who... oh nevermind, hee hee. No, I won´t say anything more. I saw a really good but quite strange program, it was made by BBC, and it was about the human face, and John Cleese was the "host", and his assistant was Liz Hurley (!) ... WHAT THE HELL?! According to me, that was one of the least likely things to happen. Dead strange... MTV is only playing hiphop at this time. Yes, I know that MTV sucks and that MTV2 which I luckliy got, rawks, but I can´t use the one wiht MTV" in this room, so at the moment I have to listen to Ja Rule. Ok, I COULD turn the tv off, but I hate silence. Most of the time, that is. Mixtapebattle: Sorry Will´s, but I´m cheering for the Rachel´s! R is for Rawks A is for.. er.. Adorable C is for Cool H is for H.. H.. moving on! E is for E.. E.. my imagination has run dry.. L is for L.. LOVELY! Rachel o.j: I am SO looking forward to you moving to Stockholm, we have to meet up then! And judging by what you said about your friends, they´re not much to be sad about moving from. Amd Stockholm is a lovely city. Rachel fruitloop: You are so sweet! Archel: Thanks for your story to my site, but due to being pathetically lazy, I haven´t put it up yet, but tomorrow I´ll do it! I promise! More of that people, thank you! (http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling) Contributions have already been made by the ever so luverrrrly Corduroy Boy Tom (*purr*), Dirty Vicar (Still looking for the soundtrack! I am CONVINCED there is one!), the charming Kate and our own francois Fred! Laughing is very good for the body, and soul, and your life, and, ah, all that. Yet another exciting thing I learnt from the BBC-thing led by John Cleese tonight, and because I care about you all so much: Let´s all have a grate big LAUGH together: [HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!] Well, I´ve rambled on for far too long now. Sleep tight sweeties, and may.. and may.. and may you all have a good day tomorrow! (ER?) Chocolate, pillowfights and mixtapes, Astrid xxx P.S Small kids talking english with an accent is the freakiest thing I know. I dot know why really, but it scares the HELL out of me. Maybe because I´m swedish. P.P.S My mum told me that I sang for the first time when I was 2 years old, in the car. We had listened to a swedish artist, and when they put the tape off, I was sitting there, mumbling the melody and the sounds. Weird. But not as weird as kids speaking english with accent. Brrrrrr! _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Sat Oct 27 23:32:11 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:32:11 Subject: Sinister: I'm one boy in my corduroy's Message-ID: hey, The girl is being dumb today. Maybe it's me. But I refuse to think that it's me all the time. You see here's the deal. She's an hour and a half away, I have a shitty car that MIGHT break down. If it breaks down, No car=no work=no money=no leaving=depression. She has a broken foot and it's hard to drive. so...the situation is kind o' shitty. I've taken a liking to red bull. I can drink them free at my work, but I refuse to drink more than one at a time...for fear that I might rob a store. I'm doing a really bad play. I'm playing a learning disabled little brother of a Racist. It's horrible sometimes and good at others, its the kind of thing that you feel ashamed of watching sometimes. I hope that it gets better and I regret writting these things. I've just realized that its only been two very long months since i've moved back home...how the hell am I going to survive the next year or so? okay...today sucks. thanks for your time tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dotsandloops at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 00:50:47 2001 From: dotsandloops at xxx.com (amy) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: curse you, fruitloop! Message-ID: <20011027235047.73913.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> ok, ok, i'm in. call me amy apple jacks, please. that, i like. i suppose it wouldn't be *right* if i didn't join this circle, being a mix tape queen and all... ...speaking of which....i made this brilliant one for an internet friend about a month ago. i haven't sent it yet, because i wanted to make myself a copy of it, and have been dead lazy about getting that done. played it in my car today...on my way back from the grocery, it was eaten! the tape dissappeared way up inside of itself. so, i promise, not to play the precious rachels tape in my vehicle. the super tempo must die! so, i've been invited to 3 different halloween parties for tonight. the one i really wanted to go to will be bad now because of the weather, there were to be hay rides and outside fun. i think not. the one most of my girlfriends are going to, i didn't really want to go to. but they are all calling me now to change my mind. i've been planning on staying in and taking care of things around the house, but i suppose i have all day sunday for that as well. and, considering i've already started drinking some wine... heck. may as well. there goes the phone again... ok. now i have about one hour to shower and put some kind of costume together. yeesh! guess i'll be strawberry shortcake, or a campbells soup kid ... again. too easy to pull off, but it works. i make a pretty good strawberry, if i do say so myself. anyhoo, guess i'll go get ready. thanks for being keen, amy apple jacks ===== "deeds cannot dream what dreams can do" - e.e. cummings __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 01:03:23 2001 From: CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com (CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:03:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm waking up to cornflakes Message-ID: <113.6bfa0ce.290ca54b@aol.com> Dear Sinister, I suppose posting a few times then going back to hiding is not a proper way to join the club and make friends, now is it? So this is my comeback attempt. I will try and make it on the level of John Tavolta in Pulp Fiction, instead of John Travolta in Battlefield Earth. Or perhaps David Cassidy, if I could achieve his fame, imagine all the sweet lovin' I'd get! Ok....enough about teen idols because I could go on forever about the tight white pants of Leif Garret...... I actually have Belle and Sebastian related things to say! So, I was delighted to get my Nintendo (original gangsta' style of 1988 Hannukah) and played mario three all afternoon! How I adore Mario and the gang! I couldnt wait to get to level six because mario was in his racoon costume and it is the snow level! Well, I was excited because I really thought it was a fox costume and I could play "fox in the snow" along to it, but then my brother burst my bubble and told me it was a racoon. But I sacrificed accuracy for a Belle and Sebastian experience. Wonder if Stu ever played Mario, Stevie would certainly be Luigi! I'm always rooting for the underdog, and Luigi was more the tall, dark and handsome type..... The other day, at school, this boy was telling me I reminded him of someone familiar. I was waiting for the inevitable comparison of my long blond hair and tan bod to britner spears, but alas he told me I resembled Gargamel, the bad guy who was always trying to catch the Smurfs. OK, first I was a little frightened. But then he explained why: because when I'm not smiling, I look like I'm plotting something "sinister"!! He actually called me Sinister. Little does he know.... I'm listening the new single now (shhhh!) and I wanted to comment on Stuart's voice on "im waking up to us". Is that Stuart!? Or does it sound much deeper than anything you could imagine coming from Stu's mouth? For some reason, I imagine him singing with facial hair sprouting up. But seriously, he's soulfull. And if it isnt stuart singing, I have no idea who it could be. Bobby? Its really a wonderful EP!! Though I burned all my EPs onto two discs so I felt like i had two new Belle and Sebastian albums. And now disc two is out of date already!! I'm starting an imaginary club for Sinister kids. Those of us 20 and under. We'll embrace each other in our underage bliss. I just like to imagine frollicing with Astrid and Jenowl. Oh, and a Sinister love connection club! Because, is it just my imagine or do Belle and Sebastian fans seek out mates who are belle and sebastian fans more than any other band? I mean, Radiohead fans dont necessarily look for booty shakin' with other Radiohead fans. Or do they? Maybe its just me. So, speaking of love, why do I have to? But I'm putting a question out there and I appreciate any advice I get! Me and the Boy have broken up, seems permanently this time. I've spent the last month trying to move on, and he already has. A Pennsylvania boy has gotten my attention. But I dont know if I'm over the Boy, but Penn. boy could certainly help with that. Bad part: I'm in california, and I could visit him over winter break. I'm horribly nervous, do I go? We email every day and talk on the phone quite a bit. Oh, love is strange! Sincerely yours, the Notorious R.C. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 01:23:56 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:23:56 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: It was the best day that she ever had Message-ID: <20011028012356.758.qmail@web20701.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Dear Sinisters! I had one of the best days of my life yesterday. I saw B and S playing live, and I have to tell you all what happened to me. The gig was going to start at 10 PM (B and S would play after other 2 bands) and I arrived at the place (the Jockey Club) at 2 PM. Me and my friend started searching for the band and we heard Dirty Dream #2 being played somewhere. And we found it. It was the band doing the rehersal befor the concert. We were watching it through a curtain, far from the stage, when a guy (A Heaven sent) showed up. He said we had to leave that place cause the security guard could find us. But he asked us to follow him. We followed the guy, followed him a little bit more, and when we realized...WE WERE ON THE STAGE. WE WERE ON THE STAGE WITH B AND S WATCHING THEM PLAYING. I couldn't say a word. I simply couldn't. I just looked at my friend and said "God this is not happening". With my hands on my head I tried to say "Sarah, please come here". But I couldn't. Only Stevie wasn't there. But after five minutes, the security guard found us. And asked us to leave. It was sad, but those minutes were so magical. You probably know how I felt. You can imagine. As I was the first one in the line, I saw the concert perfectly, from the first line right in the middle. It was awesome. Sarah waved for me and Bobby smiled after I waved. They couldn't be better. Grandaddy and Sigur Rós (the other 2 bands) were also great. Sigur Rós impressed me a lot, I bought their album today, cause the concert was fantastic. They made me cry, as well as B and S. I am sending kisses to all the brazilians who were there. I didn't meet any of you, but you must be lovely. Juliano, I didn't read your last email before the concert, sorry. Mike, where were you? I was wearing a light blue B and S T-shirt and was there with two friends, did you see me? I hope you all feel so happy like I do now. Have a great weekend! Love, Daniela The Setlist: (not exactly in this order) - Sleep the clock around - Dirty dream number two - Simple things - The boy with the arab strap - Me and the major - Judy and the dream of horses (God, it was fantastic) - I know where the summer goes - Jonathan David - The Model (perfect!- I love this song) - I fought in a war - The wrong girl - We rule the school - instrumental (the first one) - a new one, I can't remember the name now - The state I am in - Baby (brazilian Mutantes song) - A minha menina (Brazilian Mutantes song) - Legal Man _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peptidio at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 02:02:39 2001 From: peptidio at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniela=20Varanda?=) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:02:39 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Mistake Message-ID: <20011028020239.39609.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Just one mistake I commited: Baby was recorded by Caetano Veloso. Sorry! Hugs! _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mouser at xxx.net Sun Oct 28 10:57:25 2001 From: mouser at xxx.net (Shawn and Emily) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 05:57:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Under the covers with B&S.... References: <20011027201206.48623.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101c15f9f$54818e20$e218fea9@7b74c01> Hello All...... Rachael Fruitloop's request for a list of covers has brought me out from the nether reaches of lurkerdom. You see, I never write you because you all seem to intimidate me so.....see, I'm clever, but I never know how to get it to my fingers (which is sadly necessary in situations such as these). Plus, I must surely be a lot older than the majority of you....and nothing good usually comes from listening to your elders. But maybe, for once, I can be useful to you. Anyway, in 2001, I'm aware of our very clever friends covering the following songs (or bits thereof) in concert: Sympathy For The Devil (Glasgow: 28 Feb) *a batch of songs at the Scottish Socialist Party...er, party (Glasgow: April?/May?) Sex Pistols, Pink Panther Theme and probably a few more that I can't remember) Smooth Operator...Sade (Dunoon: 9 June) Suspicious Minds...Elvis (Dunoon: 9 June) The Sun Has Got His Hat On (?)...Elvis Costello (Perth: 10 June) Time Of The Season...The Zombies (Dunfermline: 11 June and again several times since....It might have been done at the SSP party before the proper tour started though, but I can't remember for certain) I Fell In Love At First Sight...Chick Robertson, father of Neil Robertson (Aberdeen: 14 June) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side...The Smiths (Glasgow: 15 June + San Francisco: 8 Sept) Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?...Rod Stewart (Glasgow: 16 June) Letter From America...The Proclaimers (Glasgow: 16 June) Everyday People...Sly and The Family Stone (London: 29 June and again several times since) Je T'Aime...Serge Gainsbourg / Jane Birkin (Cardiff: 1 July) Come And Get It...Badfinger (Cardiff: 1 July) Jilted John...Jilted John (Ipswich: 5 July) Don't Stop Me Now...Queen (Ipswich: 5 July) Alone Again Or...Love (Los Angeles: 5 Sept) Creeque Alley...Mamas and Papas (Los Angeles: 6 Sept) The Leader Of The Pack...The Shangri-La's ?...I'm blanking here (San Francisco: 8 Sept) San Francisco (Wear A Flower In Your Hair)...Scott MacKenzie (San Francisco: 9 Sept) Billie Jean...Michael Jackson (San Francisco: 9 Sept) Turn Turn Turn...The Byrds (Portland: 11 Sept + Seattle: 14 Sept....also done in NYC 1998) a Left Banke song (Vancouver: 13 Sept) Crosstown Traffic...Jimi Hendrix (Seattle: 14 Sept) Don't Fear The Reaper...Blue Oyster Cult (Olympia: 15 June) Fool's Gold...The Stone Roses (Olympia: 15 June) Baby...Caetano Veloso / Os Mutantes (Brazil, both nights?) Minha Menina...Jorge Ben / Os Mutantes (Brazil, both nights?) They didn't do this sort of thing as regularly in the previous years, but I think these have all been done before: The Kids Are Alright...The Who (Bowlie 1999) It's Hard to be a Jew on Christmas...from South Park (Washington DC 98) More Than A Feeling...Boston (Boston 98) Poupee De Cire, Poupee De Son...France Gall (many times in 1998) Matchstick Men and Machstick Cats And Dogs...? (Manchester: 28 Dec 97) In A Nutshell...Orange Juice (Manchester: 28 Dec 97) What Goes On...Velvet Underground (NYC: 6 Sept 97) I'll Be Your Mirror...VU (NYC: 5 Sept 97) Reel Around The Fountain...The Smiths (Oxford 97 and another time more) Speak to you again sometime next year..... Shawn PS. I think it's nice to have one's name mentioned in posts, as it gives the impression that one is famous....Since few of you know me and wouldn't casually throw my name around (what good would it do?), I'm going to mention several people I know so that they may feel famous....though some of them surely don't need my help. Okay, I'm taking this time to namedrop a few Sinister folk who I appreciate a lot. I hereby declare that Sam Dymond (back from the dead!), Caleb Ben Moore (who I just met!), Vu Sleeper (who I nearly just met!), Ernie Sanchez (my link to the outside B&S world of traders), David Moore (how's the burning going?), Jim Gilmer (the nicest man in Michigan), Amy Bancroft (who's left us for some Sinister guy we think) are all lovely people and are deserving of high praise and hugs. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 19:23:59 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:23:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: libraries, swedes and punctuation Message-ID: <002801c15fe6$64bcdbe0$dc1f073e@aqlzosqt> in a shocking development, i was offered not one but TWO jobs on friday. which was nice. i will now be returning to my spiritual home and working in a LIBRARY. yes, i will at last be joining will and andre in the whispering aisles of twee. who both mentioned semi-colons. a tutor once told me that i was the only student she knew who knew how to use one correctly. that went to my head a bit, probably. i don't know about it getting you guaranteed good marks on an essay, but it certainly dresses to impress. not only do i finally have a real job again, but in a few months i will be moving into a gorgeous flat with a gorgeous person. funny how life has a way of turning round. last week everything was dismal. (i really hope things take an upswing for you too, rachel oj. hugs.) the current tenants of my new lovely nest are swedish. they seem very nice. and made me think of the sinister swedish massive - i am convinced that astrid's powers of up-cheering are great, so hope that rachel oj does get together with her :) well, i missed out on my extra hour of sleep today as i forgot the clocks went back (despite reminding everyone i know yesterday). having used the extra time writing to sinister instead, i can now go to the shop which is what i tried to do an hour ago and looked pretty stupid when it was still closed and i didn't know why. luv archel xxx (no toast as have run out of bread) *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 11:42:45 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:42:45 Subject: Sinister: libraries, swedes and punctuation Message-ID: well boys and girls if you are in Stockholm this wednesday be sure to go and see Ladybug transistor play live at Tantog�rden..yepps it starts at 8 o clock I think and entrance fee is like 80 SEK ..so yeah no need to even thinka bout..it just go and i'd like to say hellos to Matt, Martin, Nicholas, Trousers, Chris and everyone else who made me have a good time at the Sppitz on the Lucksmiths gig..you guys are fantastic nice seeing some of you again as well byee huggles until next time lots of love Rebecka _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 13:24:46 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:24:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I trowe he were a gelding or a mare Message-ID: <000001c15fb3$ed9600a0$46c77ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, The more astute reader will tell from that subject that I started this post a very long time ago. As it has had bits added to it over a long period of time it is disjointed & rambling. Sorry. BELLE & SEBASTIAN REHEARSALS Like Ernie I have been wondering how the band rehearse for shows. If they only play about 9 or 10 of the same songs consistently at each performance, and then another 10 or so selected from about 20 possible numbers, how do they rehearse? Do they practise all of them at each rehearsal, or only a few? The songs always sound tight, so maybe they practice all 30 (ish). And what about the "extra" songs played just once at individual shows? I believe that the audience requests played during the UK tour were spontaneous unrehearsed performances. I wonder why they changed to playing songs specific to each city during the North American tour. I'd love to hear B&S play Don't Fear The Reaper. The 7" of that is the only record I have ever had stolen from me & I miss it :( That "Waking Up To Us" cover. Some people have referred to the "girl" in the photo, so I guess not everyone realises that it is Sarah (Martin) Tina Coffield: the guest in your http://home.earthlink.net/~mozzystars/_uimages/onstage_9-5_2.jpg "Stuart, Isobel, & Guest 9/5" photo is Evie Sands. ANTMUSIC I haven't seen B&S live for what seems ages now but did make two gigs the week before last, neither drawing very large audiences. Monday night went to the (tiny/noisy) 12 Bar Club at the invitation of Mr Harding, *efner's drummer (& best singwriter) & Archel's 1st sub. Ant only played five songs, 2 old, 2 middling & 1 new, but he & his minimalist inter song banter ("This one's about girls, stuff like that" ... "This is, er, very sweet") were great & the new song may be the best tune he has written, so checkout www.antpop.com for details of the release of his album. SCOTTISH GUITAR CUB PACK Employing tried & trusted Sinister techniques to win stuff off Radio 1 Cabbage & I got to attend the live broadcast of Mogwai's Peel Session the following Wednesday. Maida Vale studio 3 again, Bing Crosby's last broadcast commemorative plaque on the wall, free beer, Peelie taking the piss out of the audience & Man U. Stuart Braithwaite is tiny!! No longer plump, sporting a scruffy beard & a ski hat pulled down over his ears. He was a sweet little pixie when I thanked him after the gig as well, very polite, not at all what I expected. They played for about 35 minutes ending with an astonishing climax to My Father, My King with Stuart, Barry & John tearing screams of feedback out of their guitars with their FX pedals (SB won, 12 pedals). Good to be able to actually see what they were up to whilst playing, and without the deafening PA for once. Stuart bounces up & down on tiptoe when getting carried away on guitar. I now know with terrifying certainty what he looks like whilst having a wank. In fact after the climax of one number he had to adjust himself behind his guitar: whether tangled up after too much jumping up & down or as a result of peaking in time with the song I was luckily not able to determine. Radio reception was lousy in my house that night, so anyone who got a good recording of the session please get in touch & maybe we can arrange a swap. CINERAMA Last week I only made it out once (with Sally) to The Mean Fiddler for Mr Gedge & Co. Famous popstars spotted amongst the audience included Pines1 - I would have much rather seen her & Pines2 on the stage than in front of it. Cinerama are always good fun & David gives good tune, despite becoming another band playing their old band's material: the Wedding Present's Queen Of Outer Space, Dare, Spangle, Brassneck were aired, encouraging the sad sight of a load of grizzled, fat, ugly, balding, middle-aged men moshing. The fact that I was still in my suit from work luckily prevented me joining them. The last time I heard the first of those TWP songs played live was the 2nd December, 1992. Cambridge Corn Exchange, the first gig that Sally & I went to together, fact fans. After the (recent) show I think I got away with accusing the Gedge of plagiarising the Twin Peaks soundtrack for new single Health & Efficiency. HOW MANY RECORDS DOES A MAN NEED? I don't want to talk about Hefner's pooh record either (maybe Darren should let others in the band have more of a say in the songwriting. Not always a good idea in bands :) but maybe its appropriate for them at the moment) but I would recommend the new Gorky's album, How I Long To Feel That Summer In My Heart. Yes, I'm getting The Everly Brothers, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Gene Clark, other Byrds, Neil Young, George Harrison, The Eagles*. Light bodied but some songs have a long finish. Nice. * Not all these are bad as far as I'm concerned. Ask Ms Brooker. RE-MAKE/RE-MODEL However none of these are as good as the new Live At Leeds, with added full-length version of Tommy, though. Brilliant 60's Who. (Even if recorded in 1970.) "Fornicate ..." "Whassat, Pete? I thought it was a little station outside Chipping Ongar". The Who play more of interest per song during this performance than most bands do in a career. I'm such a sucker I just had to buy that 3rd format. I also bought the expanded* Lets Get It On because it was incorrectly priced in the V Shop. Tee Hee. Bloody marvellous - worth it for the arrangements & playing alone. And you get Marvin Gaye singing too! *I was going to make some smutty remarks about Marvin keeping it up for the entire length of the album but 1) Peter beat me to it & 2) the sleeve notes of this deluxe edition respectfully inform us that MG suffered from premature ejaculation, he apparently informing Smokey Robinson that "I can just look at a naked woman and come" I can't find a copy of the interview that dealt with the Keep On Getting It On subject but seem to recall now that the amazing stamina was implied by the interviewer & just agreed to ny Marvin. I'M SOFTER THAN MY FACE WOULD SUGGEST Apologies for going on about records but there's just so many good ones araound at the moment. The Camera Obscura album, Biggest Bluest Hi-Fi will be out in a couple of weeks, see http://theparkandride.co.uk/parkandride.html or http://www.andmoresound.co.uk/ & it will be bloody great. OK, last one! Just to mention that another reason to check out The Dudley Corporation's record The Lonely World of ... is that it features not only listee Chris Leonard (of The Sleeka Corporation) but also both ListMums (!) (of The Gorgeousness Corporation) on backing vocals. I hope Gordon finds a full-time job soon. MELL ST. CURSE Carsmile, is it something that afflicts the residents of all the houses on that road, or is inflicted by them? DINOSAUR JR. The dinosaur Kaiser Mark is *so* little that he looks like an egg. Did I mention The Pinefox yet? Should I disagree with him about Alone Again Or? No, I wouldn't want him to turn into another Sinister cult figure. So maybe I should namedrop Shawn Krueger instead, & bless his little archivist's soul. Thanks for bringing the covers list up to date. Love, Wobbly Taperecordings Inc. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sun Oct 28 15:39:01 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:39:01 Subject: Sinister: list abuse Message-ID: <179660144@spray.se> Hi all, this is list abuse. But I just want you all to check out my B&S-website, there´s been a very nice contribution from the cool Archel, and I did put my story up as well! http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling Love, Astrid x _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sun Oct 28 14:44:13 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:44:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: There's a portrait in a big room Message-ID: <20011028144413.60293.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Hello... So I 'did' the National Portrait Gallery on Saturday. Julian Opie's minimal prints of The Blur are there in their full-sized glory. I studied them closely looking for any signs of blemish or process. Nothing. Extraordinary. Perversely, I bought a book of landscape photography in the bookshop with some beautiful black & white shots of rural France by Henri Cartier-Bresson. Lovely. Remaining with the Br*tp*p theme of a couple of paragraphs ago, I bought the new album by The Pulp. It's playing right now. First impressions are good: The Walker-enhanced arrangements are very Pulp; sometimes almost too familiar with shades of I-Spy and Something Changed 2.0 creeping in here and there. Jarvis sounds more political and angrier. A few years ago he 'didn't want no trouble', now he wants to 'fight to the death for the right to live your life'. Lordy. Rich wrote: "I read 'the great gatsby' earlier this week. a guy I know insists it is about an escapologist." Which made me laugh but it could be worth a thesis too. Archel no-toast said of semi-colons: "a tutor once told me that i was the only student she knew who knew how to use one correctly," which floored me cos I regard semi-colons as a grammatical offside rule; ask people to explain it and they start confidently, then hesitate before backtracking and starting again. Did I do that right by the way, Archel? Pinefox mentioned me in his last post so I guess it's ok to mention him now. There. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 15:19:18 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:19:18 EST Subject: Sinister: rad, a borring uneventful post... Message-ID: <95.1279d4c8.290d7bf6@aol.com> Hey All!!! How are all my Sinister friends? I'm in a really really good mood, because this weekend has been so rad! I got the hair cut, and because of it was mentioned in two posts. Thanks Rachel, you always make me feel special by mentioning me! I think we all feel that way about you! Also to Johan, who mentioned me when he talked about his own beautiful haircut. I'm sure its wonderful. Also, I went to the worst wedding ever, for my uncle, who is so phony (I sound like Holden) and pretends to be someone so nice, and yet has been putting my Dad and Brother down his whole life. I hate that face they all put on for the crowd. And you all know what im talking about. Thirdly, I think that Rachel Cornflake's idea stated, "I'm starting an imaginary club for Sinister kids. Those of us 20 and under. We'll embrace each other in our underage bliss. I just like to imagine frollicing with Astrid and Jenowl," is grand. I'm sixteen, can I join your club, although not as famous as all of you... Around that same subject, I am so angry to be in the Under 18 crowd, there are so many good people to see and I can't see them. Grrrr! Well, I'm off to work. Paycheck is five days away boys and girls. (and the Cat Stevens boy set is two days away, I know where my cash is going!!!) bye!!! Much love, Kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 15:54:11 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:54:11 -0600 Subject: Sinister: meepmeep Message-ID: it's funny, a sunday morning, driving down the street...leslie came over yesterday. she thought it might be fun to do something for halloween...nothing much. we went to the diner and had some coffee and she had a cheeseburger, and we were listening to something in her car and i asked her what it was, and she said something that sounded like "oz sumate these" and i said "what?" and she said it again and i asked again and this happened a few more times and finally i just gave up and said "oh. hm." it was really confusing, too, because i knew all of the songs. later on when i went to get my bag out of the trunk, i found the case for the cd and felt very very silly. leslie's the one who lives in the castle house. it's actually called "the castle," and apparently it's one of the oldest houses in the area....built in 1890, which is quite old for the usa. there are lions carved over the windows, and they're creepy. leslie told us a scary story about the house, but it wasn't scary so much as it was sad. us...yes, melissa came over as well, and asked me for a cigarette so i gave her one, and then the whole time she smoked it she talked about how much she hates smoking and said "dammit kirsten, you're a bad influence." it's not like i had offered a cigarette....ach. well. we drank some....and i found some shimmery blue powder and we started having fun....leslie got out shiny grey garbage bags, and we found glitter and tape....and within fifteen minutes we were three mod spacewomen, and i kept saying "meepmeep" and melissa kept walking with her arms at her sides and her hands out at a ninety degree angle, and leslie kept taking photographs. we went down the street to a place called halisco's, and there was a boy with wings that nearly touched the ground. and we saw the hamburglar, too, and a lot of girls who seem to use halloween as an excuse to wear very little clothing. the line for the rocky horror picture show stretched all the way around the block last night...we thought for a minute about going, but leslie's friend from class who works there would have spotted us in a second and made us do not-so-nice things on the stage. so. halisco's. we ordered a pitcher of margaritas and they were the color of ecto-cooler. stopped across the street for cigarettes, and a woman poked her head into the station and said "what are you s'posed to be?" and laughed. i think melissa said something. i think i said "meep" very quietly. now it is 10:00 AM and i've just gotten home from leslie's, and i have to go open the shop. oh this is going to be a swell day, i can already tell. i'm never going to get all of this glitter off. byebye love kirsten oz sumate these...sheesh. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 16:18:01 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:18:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: toast,ken livingstone and sleazy antiques dealers... Message-ID: <20011028161801.5432.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> hello there... ..hmmm...i seem to be posting less and less these days...i just cant keep up with you crazy cats at the moment...being unemployed takes up so much of my time..there is sleep to be had, toast to be eaten and delightful daytime television to watch..paticularly 'cheers' and 'bargain hunters' which i seem to have developed rather a taste for...the sleazy old presenter just makes me giggle every time i see him...a combination of grey mullet, orange skin and 'busy' hands which are always strategically placed on the elderly women contestants backsides..are all antiques dealers like this?...i really need a job quite soon...i may be losing my sanity.... ...on the subject of 'alone again or', i saw this peformed in bournemouth by our heroes and can testify that it was a brave attempt at a beautiful song...a little clumsy but there you go...and leading on from this, 'waking up to us' sounds a little Love-like to my ears as well...its also a bit more downbeat than i remember hearing at the said bournemouth gig (isnt this flowing well today?) but still pretty *wow*...i think somebody else mentioned this too but was jo whiley just being confusing when she said they had some dates coming up after she played the single?...she may have meant the dates in japan but it seems a little strange..she was probably just being daft...i like jo whiley...she makes terrible television music chat shows and her face looks like its constructed from some kind of dough...but she seems nice enough... ..i also returned to oxford to see hefner on thursday which was just fantastic...i felt a bit sorry for them becuase it was clear that most people thought the new stuff was rubbish and only wanted to hear the old classics...they only played about five new songs and bashed out about ten old ones in a superfunjumpalong style...especially 'the sad witch' and 'hymn for the cigarettes' and a great time was had by all...i dont really think that 'dead media' was that terrible but maybe they shouldnt go so crazy with the new toys next time and remember to write some lovely songs like they used to.... ...all this mixtaping is mighty confusing...i cant remember which will is which and whether rachel is a cornflake or a fruitloop so i'll stay out of it and just await the results...i've got �10 on the dastardly mr chu making a late entry and stealing the title himself with his army of fellow kens (livingstone,branagh,clarke etc)..my what a mixtape team that would be...anyhow..i've rambled enough...thank you for your time :) ta ta... PS : You should all go NOW to www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal becuase it has the some of the most twee games i've ever seen...the snowbowling is especially theraputic... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 17:03:13 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:03:13 Subject: Sinister: scooby do/be/do Message-ID: Hello. It's a lazy Sunday afternoon, and Sinister seems a perfect thing to do/be. Rachel Fruitloop wins the prize for most referential Sinister post ever. You win a year's supply of ">" signs. Amy Apple Jacks mentioned Hallowe'en parties. I went to one last night, at Feather-Boa's house. It was fun. People were dressed in black with black nail polish and all the rest of it. List Lurkers Gina and Mr Hallifax were both in attendance, and there was at least one ex-member there too. I didn't see F-B. By all accounts she spent most of the night hugging her toilet. On Thursday there was a small-scale Sinister picnic for most of the York Sinister Massive. It was fun, although it wasn't really a picnic, more 5 people sitting in somebody's bedroom, drinking beer and eating Party Rings and Jelly Babies. We all went round to F-B's house and watched all the B&S videos and their appearance on Top Of The Pops. Gina provided the vid of them on The Tube, and we all sat round being twee. Especially twee was Mr Chris Jones, aka Mummy I've Grazed My Knee, who made plenty of baffling comments about various aspects of this fine parish. MIGMK took detailed minutes of the whole evening, so I'll leave him to fill in any blanks. Rob Brennan mentioned the new Pulp album. It is indeed fab, and everybody should buy it. At risk of sounding like Wobbly Taperecordings Inc I'll continue on the "Good Records" theme. "Versus" by the Kings Of Convenience is also fantastic, although people should buy "Quiet Is The New Loud" first. "Drukqs" by the Aphex Twin is unpronouncable (I'm of the opinion it should be said "Drug Use") but utterly madly wonderous, and "My Father My King" by Mogwai is just them showing off, but excellently so. Anyway, not much left to say. Wrap up warm, you crazy kids - it's only getting colder and darker from now until February... love Asm.x ================= "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougiefish at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 20:35:26 2001 From: dougiefish at xxx.com (erin) Date: 28 Oct 2001 20:35:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Love Message-ID: <20011028203526.4205.qmail@purina.chek.com> Rachel Cornflake's idea is quite lovely, I must agree. As a member of the under-20 Sinister set (and just barely a member of the 18+ Sinister set) I can heartily agree to anything that spreads Sinisterian love. It does seem as though B&S fans seek eachother out, but not in the way Radiohead fans do -- B&S are much more all-around loving about it and are less likely to evaluate your potential as a mate based on your opinion of the band's fourth album. (But then, B&S fans seem to love most everyone, wouldn't you agree?) I keep hearing about a new B&S single; Am I really that behind on these sorts of things? - erin, who also uses semicolons, parentheticals, and dashes with reckless abandon. Punctuation fears me. _____________________________________________________________ Are you lazy? Get your Free E-mail at http://www.Lazymail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 21:27:52 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:27:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bare's too much muff Message-ID: Hello, I met my dream girl last night. She was a very pretty girl, with the sweetest sweetest smile. Girls with a sweet smile always melt my heart. I met her in a caf�, in the afternoon, she caught my eyes on the opposite table. I think I caught hers too, I am a very good catch, but most girls don't know about that. She did one of those smiles. I think I put too much sugar into my coffee, it tasted strangely sweet. She asked if this chair on my table was taken, I said no, and she sat down. This has never happened to me before, and she introduced herself, as did I. She spoke, I never knew a girl so well spoken existed in my town; we talked, her intellect outshone even her sweet smile - I never knew a girl with such a great mind existed in my town. So, we spoke for hours on end and, in a hazy moment, I reached out and held her hand. I never knew before what it meant to hold a girls hand, but for a few seconds everything seemed clear, a few seconds later, an awkward feeling came, I withdrew my hand. I looked up at the girl, she smiled, and didn't seem to mind. She place her hands on my palm, and I knew exactly what to do this time. We just sat silent and gazed, a pair of green eyes have never been so fascinating, moments later, instincts told me that I should get up. The problem with dream girls is that they only seem to exist in dreams. Still 215 days til summer, sigh. Sweet Dreams and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geniusoflove at xxx.com Sun Oct 28 23:25:01 2001 From: geniusoflove at xxx.com (Rob S.) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:25:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: never before. Message-ID: greeting hepcats. i have played the part of a lurker for much too long, and i feel that it is time i reemerge from the depths of sinisterland. im finally at university, a place ive dreamt about for longandlong. and things are wonderfully fun. brutally fun. but at the same time life is more serious. i live with an boy who is always having sex, and murders my stereo by playing creed, dr.hook, and green day. theyve become my unholy trinity. also i see people falling into awful habits, and more and more i see another century of fakers. ive seen my friends back home once, and we are growing at such different levels that things are changing and it is getting more difficult to relate. i look at the sky and think of how everything in my lifetime is going to change beyond recognition. and am i scared. maybe or maybe not. but thank you belle and sebastian, because never before have i so-much been able to apply your music to my life...on these sweetandcold autumn days with the leaves turning and dying. all this morbidstrange beauty. while half the world is going crazy. and thank you fellow sinsterites for providing keen and witty insights into life. lurv you all, rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dotsandloops at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 05:45:11 2001 From: dotsandloops at xxx.com (amy) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:45:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i'm gonna kick yr willing arse! Message-ID: <20011029054511.32296.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> ok, i'm all excited about the rachels vs. wills mix tape battle now. yes. it's on. the now swooning ken will be brought to his frolicking knees and dub us the holy queens of copyright law infraction! oh, hey kids, look what i'm a-gonna do ... www.nanowrimo.com you should too. yes. my mom is in the hospital. i'm only so calm about it 'cuz it happens so often. i either freak because it's happening yet-a-damn-gain, or i'm all calm and play mother for everybody. i'm calm and playing mother for everybody. so, i ended up at that halloween party last night, which was a white trash hell (no offense to those of the white trash persuasion out there, i'm one too!). my posse and i headed out for the bar instead. quite the scene... dean martin, a harley davidson riding bitch, an english professor, an old coked out whore (me), and an 80s mall hair wearin' preppy stuck up snob. great costume themes, no? can you say repressed? REPRESSED! i gave up on the strawberry shortcake costume. i think the wine made me feel the more ... ridiculous ... side of me, rather than the sweet and innocent fruity smelling one. even used a white eyeliner to draw in traces of cocaine around my nose. niiiice. i never thought i'd post here that often. it's fall and i've found my hibernating space, oh yes. mmm. yeah. i'd better head to bed. i hate cramps. take care all..... amy ===== "deeds cannot dream what dreams can do" - e.e. cummings __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 12:20:29 2001 From: staralful at xxx.com (staralful -) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:20:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: you could say he is barking up the wrong bush Message-ID: Dear all Right 15 minutes start here: So how are you all today this fine bank holiday (here anyway). With the clocks changing etc I find myself going to bed early and waking up early which is very disconcerting. Right so I had a delightful 2 days ish in Dublin- Every time I go there I realise that I hate it even more. There are far too many people there and you could be in any city in Europe which is a bit annoying- I remember the days of potholes and poor people. There is none of that there anymore- just rich bourgeois happy enough to walk down the street with their bags from all the posh shops. The only thing that hasn�t really changed is the itinerant kids singing their hearts out to oasis and a delightful addition to the buskers is the Hari Krishna�s singing their eponymous song. The only refuge from this barrage of noise and unhappy rich people is the delights of an ould mans pub called Keogh�s which while in the middle of the city has the impression of being in the middle of the country. It is spread over 3 floors which haven�t been decorated in years. The bar stools are still inhabited by the same ould fella�s who have probably been there for the last 60 years. I almost felt bad about impeding in their place of drinking but we a)weren�t in the mood for a trendy bar on a Saturday afternoon and b) we really needed a pint to try and forget the horrors of Dublin. I was so glad to go on the DART back down to Bray where there is a mile long promenade with amusements on one side and the sea on the other which when done responsibly holds a rather good swim. I literally haven�t walked there ages and I was surprised to see the beach has grown up to the wall where before breakers would come over in stormy weather- We climbed Bray Head-A hill with a cross at the top with really nice views over the coast back up to Dublin- EEGADS how glad I was to be back in the car away from that place and get back to the city of cork where everybody knows my name and they are always glad I came. Right content time- Am I possibly the only person on earth who hasn�t heard the new song yet (I have got marx and engels). Is it good ? Bad ? or just pure ugly? . Hmm can I join the under 20 brigade please? I will bring the beer. Ohhh and another thing- I know there was all this talk about Indie/alt soccer teams- How about sinister 11- any suggestions? Honey no doubt and Mr Chu Would feature in the main positions (maybe water girl and slop bucket boy) Anywho I go on and I am off �celebrate� my 19 year old friend getting engaged (it is so easy to sound pleased on phone when really you aren�t) at the lovely jazz festival Remember that baboons don�t laugh at each others arses *****staralful****** "Are you calling Mr Simpson a liar?"-----" Not exactly -but we do have this fottage of him with his pants on fire" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 29 12:44:58 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:44:58 BST Subject: Sinister: i forgot my shameless plug Message-ID: <59C135B204C@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> eek, i'd better mention that we have roped in lee and ian from jolly popsters alfie to do some djing at our pretty little indie night tomorrow at the phoenix, oxford road, manchester. 10pm - 2am. its about £3 to get in, i'm not good at remembering stuff like that and i will be playing belle and sebastian and some stuff like that and some stuff not like that and then i'll prolly get stuck doing the door, so please come and cheer me up. thanks, fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 29 12:39:32 2001 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:32 BST Subject: Sinister: my flat has a spiral staircase Message-ID: <59BF9AA7427@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> no really it does. but the steps are slightly too far apart and made my legs ache all the time when we first moved in, but on the bright side i think i'm now developing really strong calf muscles. i'm having my first day back at uni after being ill and in hospital and everything for two weeks (i wasn't in hospital all that time, but the nurse kept coming to visit me and told me i wasn't allowed out of the house *pouts) and i've got a barrage of emails asking me if i'm still on the course. tsk, so i'm making them all feel guilty by sending back reeeally polite emails apologising and telling them just how sick i've been. hehehe. has anyone else noticed just how badly jarvis is receding these days. i had to switch off jules holland because i couldn't stand the sight of him pushing his fringe in the wrong direction and exposing how far back on his head it begins. i was really updet, i knew he was old, but its not until you see that extended forehead that you really think about it. *shudder ooh, i'm going to have to cut this short if i'm going to manage to get some lunch before the people who've actually been in lectures steal all the good sanwiches. (chicken &sweetcorn, yum) so i shall regail you with a proper post soon, love and lolly sticks, fiona. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From h.brown6 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 29 16:29:38 2001 From: h.brown6 at xxx.uk (Hannah Brown) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:29:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stranger things have happened! Message-ID: <3BDD83F2.46481521@camb.linst.ac.uk> hello there people, you probably don't remember me, i'm turning into a bit of a lurker these days. as someone else said, i just can't keep up with it all! I went to crazy-mad camden on sunday and bought meself a lovely, snuggly grey duffle coat in the true paddington bear style. It's brilliant and the pockets fit my hands in perfectly with just enough room left for some sweets (or marmalade sandwiches). Now i cannot wait for the cold weather so i can test its warm factor, i reckon it will be about 8/10. i also got some big hoop style earings which, admittedly, look stupid and hurt but they're quite good fun. On friday me and some friends stayed up late and played cards, we put on "feeling sinister" and my friend told me that that album will always remind him of me. I thought that was a really grate thing to say and it made me smile for ages. I have also got a PT job, which doesn't sound very interesting and it isn't but it means i get called a "reprographics assistant" which sounds quite good, better that "factory worker" any day. i'm sorry, none of this has any purpose or meaning, it's just like i am writing a diary, maybe that's why i'm not posting as much as before. One thing i would like to say is what a horrible thing happened to Rachel, i think i'd want to smash something if that happened to me. Happy Birthday by the way, you should do something evil like wee in his pint or something equally ridiculous. love hannahxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 16:51:18 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:51:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I had to catch a bus In-Reply-To: <3BDD83F2.46481521@camb.linst.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20011029165118.10878.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> I'm definitely a list lurker, but wanted to stick my head out of the lurking section and ask if anyone on this list went to either of the shows in Brazil? I'm still terribly jealous of anyone who gets to see them in the near future. Carmel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From opaline_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 18:50:42 2001 From: opaline_moon at xxx.com (caleb ben moore) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:50:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the land of nod.....and kisses Message-ID: <20011029185042.67741.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> hey-lo sinister friends...... i hope all had a very good weekend, as i did. "and what did you do young man?", you may ask? well......... i'll tell you..... i went and saw WAKING LIFE. i'm telling you folks, you MUST SEE THIS FILM. i'm begging you to. its so......alive. so subtle, so intelligent, so visually stunning. plus you get to see the new "uncensored" bjork video......and yes, i DID cover my eyes. i'm a one woman man, and only one woman has my eyes.....my minds eyes that is........speaking of that one woman........i now know that dream connections are real. "what is he babbling about?" you may ask.....we'll i'm babbling about separated love, dream communication, some kind of weird voyeurism via small animals.....it's all so wonderful, my heart is singing......i'm bubbling and babbling like a stream running through the forest whispering it's love to all the trees and the deer and the fish as it goes by...."you won't believe it, but i'm in love with ......" and everyone smiles and gets that look on their face, because they know, they know what love is, and how it feels. how every little sip of coffee tastes divine, and how every breath feels like the very first. of course this is all very sudden, i admit, but it's just such a marvelous feeling to revel in, i really think it's going to be THE fashionable thing to do this autumn. you'd be smart to jump on the wagon folks, cause the love train's about to leave the station.... :) love and london suede b-sides collections, caleb ben aka raw ===== And when I'm lying in my bed I think about life and I think about death and neither one particularly appeals to me and if the day came when I felt a natural emotion I'd get such a shock I'd probably lie in the middle of the street and die I'd lie down and die ------morrissey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jiffy_popper at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 19:12:46 2001 From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:12:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: My proper bridal gift first, and then my desire. Message-ID: Hi Sinister, David wrote: I'd love to hear B&S play Don't Fear The Reaper. The 7" of that is the only record I have ever had stolen from me & I miss it :( That song reminds me of Keith. Who would have known they were to cover it? I really like that I'm Burning For You song by them too, and I'm not being ironic or anything. The guitars are nice. I was humming it the other day and accidently let slip a little 'burn out the day, burn out the night' and my special friend cried out 'Not B.O.C! Horrible!' but that just made me laugh - I didn't know they were referred to as Bee Oh Cee. I suppose it's one of those things you learn in life, like when you are discussing a Pink Floyd album you say FLOYD: "______". Tina Coffield, your pictures are beautiful! I did feel a flash of jealousy on discovering that little lipstick smudge on that precious jaw. I feel like I should be one of those sad, miserable men who devotes poetry to an unobtainable, fair maiden:"A shower of matched pearls his teeth. Hyacinth blue his eyes: Parthian red his lips. Pure white and tapering his fingers: long his arms. As white as sea foam his side, slender, long, smooth, yielding, soft as wool. Warm and sleek his thighs. Men would say that his hair was like the blooming iris in summer or red gold after it had been burnished..." The master-mistress of my passion. I liked that Alfie song by The Divine Comedy, oh and the Father Ted on as well. My mom always made me turn off Frog Princess in the car though, "Sleaze! Sleaze!". Apparently there was lots of champagne at their live shows. Pulp have a new album out and I didn't even know. Only listened to about 3 songs on that last album though. This Is Hardcore was a fun song to act out and be dramatic to, sliding down walls, fanning one's face and pretend-dying. A Jason from Ottawa (Hi, I live there too!) was not sure whether or not B&S had played there. They have not. They had the potential of being 5 hours away in Toronto a few years ago, but Bel's widdle tum tum tummy was hurtin'. The sad news is that there isn't a lot of concerts in Ottawa at all. Hefner in 1999, I think, was my most recent one. I have not the new single yet, so I will have to make my annual pilgrimage to the record store. The cover is very colourful like the Jonathan David one, but I am nostalgic for the old, colour coded ones with the bits of writing that were just THERE instead of the usual credits. Staralful was not being so sweet on Dublin which made me a bit disappointed because I was just entertaining the possibility of visiting. You have to discover these things for yourself I suppose. My mother says her grandma prayed her granddaughters wouldn't meet any boys from Cork - up to mischief, they were. I took my mum to a poetry reading the other day, and at the end a man from Cork was a real charmer to my mum: "I've met YOU before, haven't I? You look very familiar. Where have I seen you before?" Mother gave me a knowing smile. Anyways, my teacher recited some Welsh poetry there as well. Here is a bit of the poem, seeing as it's monday and all, that used to be The Sacred Feast of the Poetry Parrot. I like the frustration in the poem, because *I* am frustrated with faraway lipstick smudges and freckled arms. The Girls of Llanbadarn I bend before this passion; a plague on the parish girls! Since, o force of my longing, I have never had one of them! Not one sweet and hoped-for maiden, Not one young girl, or hag, nor wife, What recoil, what malicious thoughts, What omission makes them not want me? What harm is it to a thick-browed girl to have me in the dark, dense wood? It would not be shameful for her To see me in a den of leaves. (Dafydd ap Gwilym) Random warm, fuzzy thoughts: I made 12 pounds of Christmas Cake, it's better if it sits for months you know. A little black squirrel visits the porch. The cats are tormented, but still I give him almonds. I haven't had a pomegranate in years, and now I'm going to have one. Love, Genevieve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 20:53:38 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:53:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Waiting for the great leap forward Message-ID: The Dadaists had it right, it's an absurd world, the only answer to it is absurdity. Which is what I tried to tell the police when they arrested me for throwing live salmon at people, but cops just don't understand Art, do they?* Subject line comes compliments of Billy Bragg, who I've been marathon listening to since Amy Longcore mentioned him in her hello post. I think the subject line sums up how I'm feeling at the moment, the sooner we have a leap forward the better, because it's the 21st century and things feel like we've set the wayback machine for 1955. Odd times. Anyways, I feel like a star because Shawn (of the dynamic due Shawn and Emily) mentioned me in a post, though he did call me "Jim Gilmer (the nicest man in Michigan)" Hmmm, I think I'm going to have to go kick a puppy or start chucking rocks at old people or something, this 'nicest man' image is ruining my 'punk rock' image. Besides, I think Shawn gets the Nicest Man in Michigan title, especially after providing that comprehensive covers list. He needs to post a bit more, it's always good to see the Michigan peeps representing. What's up with old Grand Rapids? It's like Michigan's Sinister Central, as it hosts four of our Sinister comrades. Bit more happening of a town than I would have thought. Rachel Fruitloop (and does she not have the coolest posts?) suggested that I become a Jaime, and I have to say no to that, I don't think I'm a Jaime. Elise thinks I'm a Jimmie, which she informs me is the name of those sprinkles one puts on ice cream. Let's see, I'm colourful, sweet, and I go great with ice cream. Yes, I suppose I'm a Jimmie. Will isn't fazed by Rachel Fruitloop's mix tape-fu, but having seen and heard a bit of the fruity-loopy goodness of her skills, I think it's going to be a tough fight. I went to a Halloween party last night, only it wasn't much of a party, more like a bunch of us (not in costume) going to a local bar. The poor waitress was ace and put up with us far better than most would have. She even came by and sat with us because she said we were amusing and she gave me a lighter, which was odd since I don't smoke, but the others were jealous because she sat next to me and I got the lighter. Girls dig nice guys, no matter what popular opinion says. I need friends who can hold their alcohol better though, i drank the most and I was still the soberest of the lot of us, and I had to drive the other poor drunk slobs to get coffee and food after the bar closed. There's nothing quite as strange as a 24-hour breakfest joint after the bar closes. The place we ended up in was called Lil' Chief, just think of it as Denny's with a different name. You find the most interesting specimens of humanity in after-hours breakfest joints. So we had a bit of crap food and I dropped them off and came home and it was a Good Night. It's already the end of October and I'm wondering where it went to, it seems like just yesterday I was flipping the calender over from september. Does anyone else out there like Poe? I mean the singer, not old Edgar Allen. I've been listening to her album "Haunted" quite a bit lately, especially since I'm rereading her brother's utterly mad novel HOUSE OF LEAVES. "Haunted" is the perfect October album, it makes you feel like autumn and you can smell the burning leaves and see the colours changing on the trees in old, dark woods as you listen to it. Everyone should be listening to The Shins. I haven't been able to stop listening to "New Slang" since Kirsten played her cd at the Great Lakes picnic. Songs like "New Slang" is why music was invented. Kirsten said; "meepmeep", and I think that really sums everything up. It's a Zen thing. Jim (*who's never really thrown fish at anyone...well, not since grade school anyways) "Most people get to 40 and have a midlife crisis, and that's just boring. They bore their friends by going around saying, "What's it all about? What's the point?" I thought it might be at least more entertaining to go spectacularly mad and start worshipping a snake and declaring myself to be a magician. It's been immense fun." - Alan Moore _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 21:16:09 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:16:09 EST Subject: Sinister: Umm, what shite shall bore them with today?.......Oh I know! Message-ID: <156.326265b.290f2119@aol.com> picniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18th primrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimro sehill It's not a typing error but a secret message that'll burn itself into your subconscious. Got that? Good. Hello sinister This just in.. Sainsburys 15p bread is no more. They've have replaced it with something of similar quality but upped the price to 19p, Bastards! As for Farmhouse loaf, thats just an excuse to make bread that falls apart really easy and put 14p on the price over proper bread. I may have a new job tomorrow to fill a two week money gap till I'm back in Beautiful Camden Town I sound's like a proper nasty job but it is in Walkers crisp factory so maybee I'll come out a bit bigger round the middle (and with big ears and be good at football, right?) .............................................................................. ........ BIG PAIN I'd forgotten, but a few weeks ago I agreed to *spar* with our local policeman/Bruce Lee. Just for a laugh like. Well, he found me this evening...... What the fuck have I got my self into? as a blur of fists and shins chase me round the patio. Then local constabulary's meanest combine harvester suddenly asks "Having fun?" I look back at the kitchen window to see horrified looks on the three little kids faces watching daddy beat fuck out of the lad from the over the road. This goes on for about 45 minutes and towards the end I'd stopped thinking how much it hurt and just found myself laughing like a loony at the craziness of trying to fend off this bloke when you can't feel your arms or shins anymore. .................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.............. .................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Oh Ken I know the feeling Just the night before last, Helena Bonham Carter suddenly appeared at the foot of my bed dressed in rather less than nothing and whilst this isn't exactly a terrible thing to happen in one's room, her continual plea's for me to dress up in the spare gorilla suit she'd brought and that it was getting on a bit (quarter past three in morning!) I did the only thing I could do, I took her home offering advise regarding a cold shower and half a bottle of something fiery. She rang me today "I'm sorry James, I don't know what came over me" she said embarrased of course I said she could come round later to "talk" it over, ha ha ha aha! ............................................................... Anyway the real reason I have written to you all out there is a cry for your help. See, as you probably know the worlds most fantastic brill picnic mummy Cay (I have not in any way been bribed) has threatened to run off with all my CD's currently stored on a shelf in her wood paneled Drawing room. Unless she see's at least 100 sinister people assembled upon Primrose Hill on the 18th of November 2001. Please don't let us down and you know your duty. Disclaimer. Some parts of the Miss Bonham Carter story are more true than others. Largely the parts regarding me being called James and claiming to sleep in a bed. You obviously have read this FAR so you're all absolute STARS. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Mon Oct 29 23:44:14 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:44:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Eyes don't bluff anyone Message-ID: Hello, You know how the clocks go back is supposed to give you an extra hour to sleep and that, and so you should feel very energised and stuff for work on the Monday, well it hadn't worked. I slept for the whole weekend almost and had hours upon hours of sleep last night, and I still woke up tireder than ever. Woke up at 8:30am which is when I'm supposed to arrive at the office, I rumbled around for ages had to iron work clothes and that, and then I realised that I couldn't find my tie anywhere and that was the final straw and I called into work sick. I felt a bit stupid as I found my tie as soon as I put down the phone to the office. But then I felt great cos I just gave myself a bank holiday Monday. Yeah I'm making up my own holidays dude, I am declaring it "MON day", which stands for um.. "Monday Otiosity's Nice" day. Then I spent the whole day then tidying up the kitchen and sorted out all the bills and everything, i.e. doing everything that I should have done on Sunday, so my house looked spanking great and shiny again. Then tonight I cooked myself the BEST curry ever, which was a bit better than the second best curry ever, and as a result the kitchen is now a mess again. The moral of the story is.. um.. that girls should invite Ken out to dates soon. and that red bull is great. There has been a lot of talks about a Sinister under20's love club, I think it is grossly unfair idea, for I have just turned 21 a few months ago, and have therefore missed out. I've already missed out on Student grants by being a year too young, and now they're reinstating it just as I LEAVE university. I can't take the trauma of missing out on some filthy love affairs too. Can we start a sinister club 18-30? But then I have a feeling that we already have one of those.. DansonHatcher said: >picniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thpicniconthe18thprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehillprimrosehill< whatifitrainswhatifitrainswhatifitrainswhatifitrainswhatifitrainswhatifitrains Right better sleep now so that I don't have to declare another holiday called TUES day... Chu's day? Holidays and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 00:18:23 2001 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:18:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: she summered every winter Message-ID: <20011030001823.1844.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> sinister! wow, the pernice brothers! i saw them last night and it was great. there was pop and rock and even ba ba ba's. and depressing lyrics! and catchy hooks! my boyfriend said that someone should tell joe pernice to lower the mic stand so he doesn't have to bend his knees and sing 'up' and such, but i think that's just his style. right? eh? yeah. i like him just fine. and stereolab on thursday. lots of stereolab goodness. and laetitia on trombone. trombone! what a good instrument with all its slidyness. and her haircut is good too. i did see the nick drake documentary at the film fest here. and it had danish subtitles which i kept trying not to read and then inadvertantly finding them funny b/c i was reading them as i would read english. because i don't understand danish at all. anyway, the film was good. and sad, but you know that going in, don't you? and it was just lovely to hear nick drake songs in this big dark full theatre with surround digital sound. it was double-billed with some short films/videos for sparklehorse songs. my favourite being the guy maddin film. guy maddin! yeah! he is the rocks. but the films were part of an mtv show hosted by someone who's probably famous but i'm too ignorant of such things to know him. actually, it might not have been mtv - it was called 'sonic cinema', the show, so i don't know. regardless, he reminded me of the chicken lady of kids in the hall fame and i started laughing about 10 seconds after he started introducing the show. and then my friends started laughing. and then by halfway through everyone was just laughing at the guy no matter what he said. it was *how* he said it, yo. i like how the list of b&s covers includes my embarassing entry of 'a left banke song'. holy crap, i should do my homework and listen to some music now and then so as to be able to distinguish songs and their names. but really though i tried to make a mixed tape yesterday and realized i have three times as many cds as i had the last time i tried to make a mixed tape. *is* more better? is it? i've actually been hurt when piles of cds fall off whatever surface they are on, becoming plastic projectiles of pain headed straight for my bare feet. yeah, so i thought i'd visit eng-a-land in november, but obviously i've spent all my money on cds. i don't know. i was a fairy (faeirie) for pre-actual-halloween. usually i am something evil or dead or evil-dead. with blood. but i had this dress (gown, some might say) i never wear and got bored of it's unwornness, so i put some wings and glitter on. and my red boots, which i really think are what fairies would wear if they needed shoes. later i drank some gin out of a jar for a while. from what i observed it seemed a lot of people were dressed as hunter s. thompson. or maybe just *like* him. just contemplating a graduate degree, not to worry. back to working, robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 01:00:27 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: trying to sell a sucker a style Message-ID: <28583870.1004403627681.JavaMail.imail@dotty.excite.com> hello sinister. halloween shenanigens have hit the newsroom, and i am frightened to say that the few spangled and feathered masks floating around down here have been worn by almost every staffer except your miss lou. thank goodness, as i was never much of one for communal images. we always have candy down here, and i do think the gossip and innuendos and cheap posed attitudes serve as masks enough to say that every day down here might, in fact, be halloween. which leads me to talking about my halloween costume. i have decided to be the same thing as i was last hallow's eve. a bride. yes. me. in white. after labor day. yikes. the reasoning for this decision is actually threefold: 1. i was planning to be velma from the illustrious scooby doo gang. and those of you who have had the privilege of seeing my photo will have to agree that i would have made the perfect velma, albeit with daphne's facial features. he he but. the boy. who was to be shaggy. well. he's having fun with that other girl who's apparently more fun than me. so. next reason. 2. dressing up as a bride is fun fun fun. glitter and tulle and flowers and miles of fabric. i'm a girl, and when i wear big dresses, i get especially happily girly. and finally 3. i am never getting married, so wearing a wedding dress every halloween is the perfect excuse for me to wear the dress! and, if i ever happen to get married, i'll be wearing a dress on halloween anyway, so halloween can be the blessed day for the blessed and unexpected event. i am quite happy about this new tradition i am about to instill, but, in the back of my mind i hear... ...danny. lindsey you must not think like this. and people keep telling me that i'll get married one day and blah blah blah the same old comforting shit from the same old people getting ready to don costumes over costumes for the party at the end of the week. the party is at the managing editor's house. my cronies, the news desk, pretty easily despise the managing editor. so. costumes over costumes. arrive at the door with gin and fake smiles and leave on the arm of whatever sports writer was nearest and more drunk than you. this does not sound fun. which is why reason two in the list above is so important. the glitter and tulle and such. so. friday. i will be a puffy sweet-smelling cloud of bridal goodness. and i will be the most single bride to ever run around lincoln. maybe. he he at any rate. long live miss havisham. and as i intend to close this chapter in haiku-lou's latest stage of grief over her ever-present love crises, i suddenly realize i should send some kind of post with some kind of content. so. i loaned out my boy with the arab strap cd a bit ago and still haven't gotten it back. this makes me happy that i must have spawned another ravenous b&s fan. but. bwtas is my favorite b&s. and. i. want. it. back. love. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 03:50:43 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:50:43 -0600 Subject: Sinister: There's a monkey making love to the hole in my head Message-ID: Hello everyone, I think it's been a while since I last posted, but not long enough. Ever since midterms I've been very detached. Very tired, very bored, very blech all the way around. Since I don't work anymore, and I have nothing to study for, I've become lazy and completely unmotivated. I just have nothing to do and no energy to do it. No music was particularly satisfying. The situation became much more dire after I broke the needle on my record player. Things just couldn't get any worse... Until about an hour or so ago. I'm not sure why, but I popped in Mermaid Avenue and everything suddenly got better. I still have a bit of a headache, and my arm and shoulder are extremely sore from bowling the other night (even though I didn't bowl), I was actually excited about something. And to top it all off, Mandee's radio show is coming on tonight. That seems to be the highlight of my week (which is kind of sad I suppose). Everyone should tune into it though. There is always at least one song that I've never heard before that I fall in love with. Why do. some people. post. in fragments. ?. Maybe it is to. hold our short. atten. tion. sp. ans. a wee. bit. long. e. r. I watched a bit of the sitcom Caroline in the City this morning. It was extremely depressing. It puzzles me as to how that show was ever popular. Most sitcoms are so incredibly dumb. I just can't stand them. I had never heard the Divine Comedy until a week or two ago. An attractive, young Scottish lass with a penchant for piercings gave me a great big list of songs, which I downloaded and have been enjoying. I didn't know about them in 1996 though, because I was listening to the Pumpkins, Bush, Garbage, and Weezer at the time. As for the DC vs. SFA thing, I think I'd have to side with SFA, just because I've known them longer. No offense to anybody. The greatest song about the weekend is obviously by Loverboy. I was at my friends house today, and he has cable, so I watched MTV2. I saw the new Garbage video and the new Bush video. It amazes me how boring and stupid they were. How did bands so important to my musical development become so awful all of a sudden. The videos were absolute crap as well. Cheesy computer effects and fast editing. I turned it back to the spaghetti western on TBS shortly thereafter. I saw the Strokes/Moldy Peaches last Friday. The Moldy Peaches blew me away (they truly rocked), and I actually enjoyed the Strokes. The album is pretty good in my opinion, and they only played 12 songs for about a 45 minute set. I was very happy about that, since I was dead tired and still had a long drive ahead of me. All good fun though, worth 10 bucks to be sure. My weakness for the Velvet Underground reared it's ugly head again this weekend, when I found a three disc live compilation. I promplty bought it, and even though it was recorded in 1969 by an audience member with a cheap recorder, the 38 minute sister ray is worth it alone. Astrid mentioned the sheer brilliance that is MacGuyver. He was my idol as a youngster (I am one of the under 20 brigade), but the episode Trumbo's Land, about all the ants taking over town, scared the piss out of me. Blue Oyster Cult begin and end with "Godzilla" My deepest condolences to Rachel OJ and her recent boyfriend troubles. I'm ashamed to be a male. "I'm sure that women are equal, and they may be ahead of the men." Caleb is right-on about "Waking Life". It was truly amazing. It made me forget all about the Newton Boys . I had more to say, but as usual, I forgot. I really should start writing this stuff down. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 05:32:00 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:32:00 -0600 Subject: Sinister: it's winter now i waken Message-ID: so it's not really winter...it feels like it. it feels good. the cold led me to hurry to my car after work tonight, and i worried for a bit when my key would not turn in the lock. it wasn't that cold. glancing through the window, i wondered when and why and in what state of mind i had purchased this month's issue of "cosmopolitan." looking more closely, i then wondered when and how i had acquired a baby, necessitating the small white child's seat in the back of the car. i looked around for a moment, then removed my key and walked two spaces over to my own car. no "cosmopolitan." no baby seat. the key turned and i got in and shivered. partly because of the cold, and partly because something just felt creepy. it wasn't a big deal..i was just really glad.... i'm starting a new job on thursday, serving all varieties of noodles to the good people of brookfield. they're all talking at the shop...placing small bets on how long i'll last before i come crawling back. i probably will, too. i'll probably be a fine noodle bar employee for two weeks, and then one morning ann will go in to open the shop and when she turns on the lights she'll see me standing outside with my nose pressed against the window, shivering in my beloved girl scouts shirt and clutching a plastic grocery bag full of cds, pleading please not to send me back, they make me wear a uniform and listen to wklh. and they'll take me back, i know. it's good to know. it's an okay job. besides that, it's just nice to have something...stable. i've been thinking about the holidays. the christmas tree went up in the mall today, which is almost terrifying. my mom wants to go to the cayman islands for christmas. the whole family. it's a nice idea, but it would be like this: mom and dad walking on the beach. allie picking up boys. david and kirsten sitting in a tiki bar. the whole time. i told my mom that, and she reluctantly admitted it herself and i don't think we were really going to go anyway. i thought some more...about taking my own little trip after christmas. i need to stay for christmas....apparently. the church choir is still counting on me for the hallelujah chorus, like every year...i'm surprised they remember me, really. but they do. and i have to do it. again. i'm not sure about going anywhere anyway... i spoke to a certain ken on the telephone today...cool. kewl. he does a mean jerry springer man-who's-actually-a-woman accent. my left leg has been hurting for several days, and i have to say i'm a bit worried about it. there's just no reason...i'm a horrible hypochondriac. sitting in the grey stairwell on my break reading a book this evening...there's a man who has walked past and found me that way nearly every day for the past year and a half. and every day, the same conversation. "good book?" "hm? oh, yes. quite." "good, good." then he usually says something about how it's not really that nasty outside and that i should go downstairs and join him for a smoke on the sidewalk, and i always say no, thank you. but he says it anyway, every time. it is a good book, anyway. my leg is hurting something fierce. i must have meepmeeped into a parked car or something. *sigh* love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 07:02:05 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:02:05 Subject: Sinister: Expelliarmus! Message-ID: FORGOT IF I SENT IT, IF ITS ON TWICE, I'M SORRY, IT'S THE SAME THING. Hello All. So...I buzzed my hair off last night. I kind of like it. My scalp is dry so it itches and is cold at the same time. I had to do it for the dumb play I'm doing, where I'm the learning disabled brother of a skin head. it sucks. But the Good thing is that I'm starting to make friends again via cast mates. I know that sounds sappy but when I moved, all of my friends moved away too, and when I moved back they were all gone. So, now with the exception of the a few random people I've known for about 10 years, I have very few friends. The girl, who continues to be very very lame, is pretty much my best friend, but she's far away. Morning becomes eclectic (public radio show) played some Belle and Sebastian this morning. I was actually on the web looking for the new songs (which I can't find, and if someone would like to put me in the right direction it would be much obliged) and Nic Harcort said, "And some Belle and Sebastian after the break" I say "Sweet!" and it just turns out to be Women's Realm HEY!! speaking of Women's Realm, did anyone else notice that when they played it live, they skipped the last verse? That is my favorite verse and one of my favorite moments on that album!! I was sort of disappointed at that (but at the same time thrilled that it was live!). I mean, its the verse with the actual line "...with a torch and a WOMEN'S REALM" the title of the song!! arrg. I have to work at 7:30 in the a.m. tomorrow, or today, as you all be reading this. I'm working at the coffee shop. Selling Latte's and FruFru drinks to crusty loud caucasion women...but i'm not bitter. ahh the life. all of you take care, thanks for all your emails, tina, rachel and the wills. out, tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 07:00:58 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:00:58 Subject: Sinister: Expelliarmus! Message-ID: Hello All. So...I buzzed my hair off last night. I kind of like it. My scalp is dry so it itches and is cold at the same time. I had to do it for the dumb play I'm doing, where I'm the learning disabled brother of a skin head. it sucks. But the Good thing is that I'm starting to make friends again via cast mates. I know that sounds sappy but when I moved, all of my friends moved away too, and when I moved back they were all gone. So, now with the exception of the a few random people I've known for about 10 years, I have very few friends. The girl, who continues to be very very lame, is pretty much my best friend, but she's far away. Morning becomes eclectic (public radio show) played some Belle and Sebastian this morning. I was actually on the web looking for the new songs (which I can't find, and if someone would like to put me in the right direction it would be much obliged) and Nic Harcort said, "And some Belle and Sebastian after the break" I say "Sweet!" and it just turns out to be Women's Realm HEY!! speaking of Women's Realm, did anyone else notice that when they played it live, they skipped the last verse? That is my favorite verse and one of my favorite moments on that album!! I was sort of disappointed at that (but at the same time thrilled that it was live!). I mean, its the verse with the actual line "...with a torch and a WOMEN'S REALM" the title of the song!! arrg. I have to work at 7:30 in the a.m. tomorrow, or today, as you all be reading this. I'm working at the coffee shop. Selling Latte's and FruFru drinks to crusty loud caucasion women...but i'm not bitter. ahh the life. all of you take care, thanks for all your emails, tina, rachel and the wills. out, tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From irivamon at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 08:46:06 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:46:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: do your dance; do your funny little dance Message-ID: Hello Sinister, I'm just sitting here "chillin'" after reading some Torts and doing a Contracts hypothetical. For you kids planning on going to law school or its equivalent, hope you're having as much fun as I am!! (note sarcasm). So, I haven't had a chance to listen to my new CDs of late. My friend just came back from England and she gave me the most wonderful present: Pulp. The new CD was "weird" at first to me. Jarvis talking about shrubbery and all that (weeds, weeds II, and trees). But now I absolutely love it!! My favourite line in the entire CD is the subject line above. Jarvis says it so sexy like. And I'm still mourning about the Divine Comedy breaking up. Does anyone else here think that Parlophone intentionally did this? Why is it that Parlophone only contracted Neil Hannon but not the Talbots and the others? Regeneration was the first album, to my knowledge, where I actually saw the entire band in full. Usually, it's just Neil on there looking all pretty and witty with his scarf. I was listening to my Divine Comedy bootleg from their Edinburgh Liquid Room gig on 25 February 2000. It's weird to hear the Regeneration songs in there in it's infancy. Did you know that line in "Timestretched" where he says the said title was originally penned as "let's dance"? And one of the songs (sorry, forgot the title) sounded like a rumba with the bongo drums? And now Tim Booth of James is no more as well. What gives? New SFA in the USA on Tuesday. Support your local Welsh indie bands. I hear it's a superb album. Anyways, enough of my yapping. I'll let Kenneth Y P Chu, the Rachels, and the Williams' do the more creative yappin here. By the way, my second first name is Wil. Do I get to be in the Williams' group? Cheers, Ian Wil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 13:09:05 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:09:05 -0600 Subject: Sinister: There's a monkey making love to the hole in my head References: Message-ID: <001701c16144$1001ac20$74a3ecd8@default> Matthew Henderson wrote: > I watched a bit of the sitcom Caroline in the City this morning. It was > extremely depressing. It puzzles me as to how that show was ever popular. This show was mentioned on "Saturday Night Live" during the "Weekend Update" part one time. The announcer said "Caroline in the City was just approved to run for another season. Atheists across the nation are saying ...'See, I *told* you so!'" Matthew Henderson , sage of the ages that he is, affirmed: > The greatest song about the weekend is > obviously by Loverboy. Obviously. Once I was in a record store that was trying to close down for the night, and they started playing the aforementioned song in order to "shoo" customers along their merry way. I went up to the counter to pay for my stuff, and said to the clerk behind the counter, "You know, Loverboy falls into that category of music that I call 'Earnest Rock'. I am never sure what kind of emotion they're trying to communicate, but whatever it is, they're trying to do so very forcefully and earnestly." To which the clerk replied, completely deadpan, "Hey man! They're WORKIN' for the WEEKEND!!" I laughed my ass off!!! Sorry. I know there's no content here. I just had to share some schtories... Hope someone else finds it funny. "If you think round is funny" Lisa from Texas (aka Rachel Ranchero!! Viva Rachels!!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stoutrobin at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 14:19:04 2001 From: stoutrobin at xxx.com (robin stout) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:19:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: beyond our ken Message-ID: JARVIS Hmm.. I'm not that impressed with the new Pulp album. The song aren't bad, it's just that Jarvis has done it all before and better. Weeds is a just Misshapes with leaves; Wickerman is Sheffield: Sex City without the sex. I'll probably like it eventually, though, it's just the at the moment I'd rather hear the Mull Historical Society, and to think that a Pulp album came out last week and I'm not listening to it all the time is a bit depressing. JAYS Mind you, Jarvis still gives a terrific interview: "What is your favourite bird? Jarvis Cocker: Would you like to see it? I'll draw it for you (draws)...Long tail feathers...it's a Jay. For a bird you can find in the British Isles, you can't beat a Jay. It's mainly a dusty pink colour with little bits of blue and black colouring on it. The first time I saw it was in Norfolk when I was walking in a field. I thought it was some exotic bird that got lost but apparently Jays are quite common in this country. You can generally see them in open countryside, so look out for the Jay. " JOBS Archel asked: >maybe you can >give me some hints about acquiring a proper job ..and then went out and got one. Well, Archel, I wouldn't have been much help anyway because I don't have a *proper* job - I'm a civil servant. That basically means I sit about a lot pretending to be working and not really doing any. It also means I have an endless and multicoloured supply of pens. JUNE I'd never worked in an office before and the only stuff I knew about how offices work was what I'd seen on telly, in particular The Office*, which I'd always assumed was a sitcom and not a documentary. A little worryingly, telly's proved to be a pretty accurate guide... The other day the office "reclaimed" all of the teapots in the tea rooms after they'd been there for 20 years, because they were "government property". The staff were all busy sharpening their pencils ready for war, and fiercely guarding their spoons in case they went next, but luckily the office backed down and replaced them. The staff were so happy, you'd have thought Jesus had arrived with a big box of sweets. And a girl in a room near me has fallen out with the person she sits opposite and built a wall out of cardboard between them so she doesn't have to see him. She'd only been working here for two weeks. Really, it's worryingly like a sitcom. Any day soon our manager will be replaced by June Whitfield**. The only sane ones around here are me and my plant, Millicent. Isn't that right, Millie? Well at least the pay's good, and if I'm ever short of cash I can always go and sell some of these pens. JIHAD Anthrax, eh? Apparently the "suspicious white powder" that was found in a sorting office in Bradford last week turned out to be a crushed packet of Love Hearts. Not only did the post office crush some poor child's sweets, but someone actually *tasted* the powder to see what it was and decided that it wasn't sherbert, but was probably anthrax. Gawd 'elp us if some actually does turn up. JEEPERS! The cover of the new single is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. Those wet noses and cute little faces... arrrgh! Right then, I'm off to sell some pens. Robin x * and ** After trying to explain to an American what Guy Fawkes night was ("Well, you see we make an effigy of a Catholic and stick it on a bonfire"), it occurred to me how English I am and how often I refer to things that half of you folks haven't got a hope of understanding. So, from this day on, I offer to provide Robin's British Information Service, where if you're from another country and you email me with a question about British culture you don't understand, I'll answer it the best I can. Like: "If English automobiles don't have trunks, how can I carry my cookies?" That sort of thing. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 14:40:43 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:40:43 EST Subject: Sinister: The only thing I ever want to be for Halloween is David Bowie Message-ID: <94.1c1cf15f.291015eb@aol.com> HELLO FRIENDS, Moments ago while getting up from the chair I am sitting in I lost my balance and did a really great job of smashing my upperlip and teeth into the metal bar on the lovely prison-style bed my college has given me. It hurt alot and I frantically searched for my chapstick, as if that would help. I didn't even notice the blood from my cut lip on my chapstick because it's dr. pepper flavor and colored red. Moments before that I needed to hear slow graffiti. I had to sing along too. For some reason a boy who looks exactly like David Byrne with black hair walked by and told me I had a nice voice. I sincerely hope he was being sarcastic, and I nearly told him so too, but I figured to things could come of that. He would either admit that yes, I suck at singing, or try to convince me that I do not suck at singing. My psyche isn't prepared for either at the moment so after careful consideration and a good while of staring blankly at him, the reply I settled on was a very weakly voiced "thanks." He went away and I shut the door. I think it is important to mention that while this was happening my attire consisted of pajamas with pictures of coffee on them, and slippers that look like pink bunnies. I hope I can avoid these sort of things when I buy the slippers that look like purple monkeys. So my visit to England to see Peter over Christmas break is up in the air again. I was crying on the phone to my mother last night while she told me how important public opinion was and how young I am. This from the woman who was pregnant with me and living with my father at 19. She says it was okay because her and my dad were very much in love and planning on getting married...just like Peter and I. Yet she tells me that I can't do whatever I want because I love him, as though I was going to claim that I own Spain because I love Peter. I know where the summer goes is relaxing me. I have always loved the line about flowering cherries. We have a flowering cherry tree outside my house and I once stood underneath it on purpose on a windy day, but the flowers weren't ready to rain down yet. Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Oct 30 14:43:03 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: "I'm going to have to ask you to stop the wanking." Message-ID: <20011030144303.87991.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> DansonHatcher wrote: "picniconthe18th" and "primrosehill" a lot. Wow! The middle of November and a venue that's about 2000 feet above sea level and probably capped with snow right now. Should be the most downright chilly picnic ever. Wrap up warm everyone - I can see the headlines already: "50 Belle & Sebastian Fans Found Frozen in London!" "Picnicers thought to be too shy to huddle together for warmth." "Doctors describe their condition as 'stable but twee'." I'll be there with me hot water bottle. Graham Linehan wrote in the Idler that being in a TV audience is something that everyone should do once. I'll get to find out tomorrow. Fans of unloved groundbreaking BBC2 sketch shows might also be pleased to hear that the audience is for a screening of the new series of BIG TRAIN (the source of my subject line). I may even Report Back so watch this Spaced. Ken PY Chu talked about not going to work cos he couldn't find his tie. Brilliant idea! I'd try it myself but I don't wear a tie. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.hester at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 15:47:28 2001 From: mark.hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: 30 Oct 2001 15:47:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The corporate hippo to my indie okapi Message-ID: <20011030154728.16071.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From irivamon at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 17:56:57 2001 From: irivamon at xxx.com (Ian Rivamonte) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:56:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: another dc bit (with a bit of b&s in it) Message-ID: I remember around 1998 I was listening to my Sinister album when my mom gave me my mail in my room. In it was this envelope from England. Mind you, I didn't know anyone from England at the time besides the people on my walls. I looked at it very carefully, then finally realizing that it was probably a solicitation from Setanta, because of the return address, about an upcoming Divine Comedy release or something. I opened it, and lo and behold it was a hand written postcard from Neil Hannon himself! So the story begins... About 3 months prior to my receipt of the postcard, I had this really awkward dream about the Divine Comedy. Before going to bed, I saw that hilarious picture of Blur mimicking Blondie with Damon in that dress and all that. Anyways, as I fell asleep I dreamed that Neil was doing "Alfie" ala Blondie in my university campus. He looked freaky as all hell. I immediately woke up and thought, "I have to document this dream." So I did, with every detail still fresh in my memory. So, I wrote it down and told my friend about it. He insisted that I mail it to Neil c/o Setanta Records in the UK just to get a reaction from him or something. "The worse that can happen is he doesn't respond," said my friend. I figured, "I can afford $0.66 to post this, why not?" So I did and added a little tidbit in there about how my car broke down and I wasn't able to drive up to L.A. to see him play at this teeny-weenie club there much to my dismay. And now I received this postcard. In it, he wrote (not verbatim): Dear Ian, Very funny dream you had there! Just to reassure you, I never wore a dress while I'm on stage. But you gave me a very good idea and might try it sometime. Ha! Ha! I'm sorry about your automobile problems. Pleasant dreams... Neil xoxo Anyways, that's that. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 19:22:51 2001 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (~ boywiththearabstrap) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:22:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Can You Help Me Find My Belle? Message-ID: Can someone please help me? Living in the Clydeside area, an area of ardent technoheads, I struggle to find a compatible soulmate.Is everyone a raging cokehead in Glasgow these days,or am I just looking in the wrong places? Sebastian, you're in a mess........ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 20:16:56 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:16:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: all that Glimmers is not Jim Message-ID: well i listened to all of jo whiley's show yesterday and she didn't play the new single but then mark and lard came through with the goods. i don't really know what to think of it yet, very sixties (as has ben mentioned), very san-francisco-flowers-in-your-hair ish. i don't think its as good as jonathan david which i liked straight away but maybe it'll grow on me after a few more listens. according to HMV the single is out on 19th november and is called 'the season has arrived' ---=+0|0+=--- it was my birthday on wednesday (24th) woo hoo! 22. thanks to everyone who was in #sinister when the clock ticked past 00:00 hours and special thanks to arik for being the first to wish me happy birthday. so we went out drinkin' and dancin'. 1st to see my friend's band, theyre called 'neil, your bedroom's on fire...' which i think is a bloody good name for a band. then we went to see mani (stone roses/primal scream) DJ and it was bloody good. i wore my 'kill all hippies' t-shirt and got it signed! unfortunately it says "nice sentiment, taliban 2 usa 0, mani". i guess he's been talking to bobby gillespie again, eh? ---=+0|0+=--- one of the Rachels (sorry, carnt remember which one) asked what Nick McCabe had been doing recently, well the last i remember of him he mixed a track called 'B+A' on The Beta Band's debut ep 'champion versions' but that was back at the end of '97, just after the verve split - i wish he'd make a comeback with a new band or solo as he is a tremendous guitar player, but that might be a bit too much like the seahorses. but then again McCabe was never as self indulgent a guitarist as John Squire was so maybe it might work. Bernard Butler's solo stuff wasn't too hot was it, except 'yes' with David McAlmont, i love that song, haven't heard it in ages. ---=+0|0+=--- oh!, Snoozer mentioned recording one of the brazilian gigs off the telly, did you? i'd love a copy of that, that would be fantastic! ok that's all folks take care Pez* P.S. alot of people recently have mentioned how much they love 'judy and the dream of horses'. i always thought of this song as a bit throwaway and not really a song to end an album on, i much prefer 'the boy done wrone again' (one of their *best* songs if you ask me) so i skip past 'the boy...' to 'judy...' and then go back to end on 'the boy...' when i'm listening to the red album. so there. P.P.S. did you know (or 'pez's fact of the day'): since the harry potter movie is going to be called 'harry potter and the philosopher's stone' and 'harry potter and the scorcerer's stone' on either side of the atlantic, every scene in which the stone is mentioned has had to be shot twice, with appropriate dialogue in each! www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 21:35:43 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:35:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the tap shoes of my dreams! Message-ID: <20011030213543.4810.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Kisses and hugs to those who have lost love, or are having love troubles. You all deserve so much more - especially dear Rachel oj. I've never actually talked to her in person, but her story touched my heart. Winks and nudges to those who have found true love, or a tentative sort of dizzy crush, or even those who have had love all along. You know who you are. I feel like makin'...lists. Here's a list of alternate merit badges for scouts that my friend Ben Carter and I made up. He's so cool. ********************************** poaching/ivory dealer mob surgery umbrella repairs dry humping I and II agressive panhandling aromatherapy selling oregano to stupid 15 yr olds speed dialing indie kid snobbery filing outing celebrities stripping international espinoge the baldwin brothers keg stands uncomfortably long hugs ribald ape tricks shoe tying glue sniffing super villianry murder/suicide pacts crime scene investigation hammers free masonry heavy petting (maybe to close to dry humping, but blow jobs is a little much for merit badges) karma sutra (but that isn't, its a very fine line) consumer product testing evil robot construction staring at people anything-for-a-dollar and cold fusion ***************************** Wow. Anyone else have any good merit badge ideas? There's this hotel in Milwaukee. It's name is...(stifles giggles)...pronounced....(mfffteeheeheeffftt)...The FISTER!!! Mwahhh haaa haaa! It's actually spelled "Pfister", and it's an incredibly nice hotel. I bet Kristen Kenyon's told you this already and the joke's on me. But in case she hasn't - hope you all find it as amusing as I do. Also: shouts to my beautiful Sean - I love you thiiis much: (holds arms outstretched, then leaps from one side of the office to the other, and then trips on a chair and falls over), and to Rachel Frootloop - who loves ya baby! And to my little box boy Tom. Well, best get back to work. People need their prescriptions called in. love and sexy scenarios, -elise P.S. Just realized there's little-to-no b&s content in this post. Um...can't wait for the new single! Beagles are sooooo cute! I wish I had a doggie but I'm allergic. There. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Oct 30 22:31:31 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: a fine powder potion for my dreams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > P.S. alot of people recently have mentioned how much they love 'judy > and the dream of horses'. i always thought of this song as a bit > throwaway and not really a song to end an album on I listened to IYFS for the first time in a long time yesterday, and I was struck by this line in the song: "I don't know you if you're gonna show me everything". There's the obvious contradiction. Then there's the strange combination of tenses (future for the antecedent, present for the consequent) so that the line has a reading that can be paraphrased as "If you show me everything, then it will be as though, all along, I didn't know you." So it could be a wish to be spared confessions, but perhaps, more than that, a comment on the impossibility of ever completely knowing another person. And what is 'everything'? Is the line (just) a plea for chastity? As for our preferences, maybe we look for traces of our own experience. I was set to declare Danson Hatcher the new Robin Stout when Robin returned to regale us with a new set of tales. This, from Robin: > Apparently the "suspicious white powder" that was found in a > sorting office in Bradford last week turned out to be a crushed packet > of Love Hearts. and this, from Danson: > I was f**ked and had no intention of going anywhere for some time, my > saviour appeared in the form of two suger sachets and a sachet of noodle > seasoning , the sugar was lovely but the noodle seasoning was a *bit* > hot. Eating this just resulted in me feeeling sick and gasping for > air/water/ice cubes, much to the amusement of passing drivers. are among the best things I've read this week. If only my life were that interesting. And when Genevieve announces that she is going away to eat a pomegranate, how is it that the fruit seems so much more exotic than it already is? For those under 20, this should be an incredible time of year for you. In your first year of college, that first crush, how it will return to haunt you! Hopefully, not with a gorilla suit, though. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Tue Oct 30 22:31:16 2001 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:31:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Here in Baltimore, home of the brash, outrageous, and free Message-ID: <123.697ad0b.29108434@aol.com> Hello there all of my Sini-buns, I haven't posted in quite sometime, and yet have had an immense quantity of post-worthy happenings in the world-of-Sean lately. First of all, let me get the much belated stories of Madison told. In a word, my trip was perfect. It surpasses all expectations I had, and was more wonderful than I ever thought 5 days could be. Chicago was tons of fun, despite the cold rain, and everyone there was rokken. (like dokken) Staying in Madison with my darling Elise was certainly the best part of my excursion, of my entire life really!...she is such a wonderful person, smart, funny, kind, stylish, and beautiful...she really has it all, and I am very much in love with her. :) She is coming for a nice lenghty say with me in Baltimore this December, which excites me so much I think iI may burst! I can't wait to show her all the lovely things around here, and to just spend some lovely time together. Belive it or not, Baltimore really is a lovely place. It's come to my attention that people see my fair city as some what of a dump, and I feel obligated to protest! Sure we may have the highest per-capita rate of substance abuse and STD infection in the country, but the city does have a charm all it's own. I can't possibly be the first one to notice this, since our city motto used to be "Charm City." Unfortunatley they changed it to the quite sub-par "city of firsts," recently, which disturbs me greatly. Seriously though, there are tons of wonderful treasures to be found in the city of Baltimore. First you have Federal Hill, which gives you a lovely aerial view of the quite attractive Inner harbour, and of Ft. McHenry...you know, where Francis Scott Key wrote "The Star-Spangled Banner." Then you have the Inner Harbor it'sself with all its lovely restaruants, and waterside view, not to mention the AWESOME aquarium!!! Then you have probably my favorite area of the city, Charles Street. First you have the Charles theater, which always plays the lovely movies that you can't see elsewhere. Plays 50's advertisements before show times, and often plays The Smiths as backround music in the lobby. The singer from my old band works the projectors, and there is always the chance of seeing John Waters either in the theater or the surrounding neighborhood. He's been known to frequent "The Depot" which has a lovely 80's dance night and "Club Charles," which is just all around hip! However the last sighting of Mr. Waters that any of my cohorts has had was a couple of weeks ago at the "Low" show being held at an area library. (not your normal library, very huge, with floor, upon floor of rather ancient books.) He was there accompanied by a fellow sporting both a finely groomed mullet, and a moustache. Where else can you see such scenes??? Then there are all of the unique row-house apartments...(which I will be inhabiting one of hopefully in a scant few months.) tall celings, fireplaces, wood floors, each different from the next in lovely little ways, and extrememly reasoble rent! What more could one ask for in a dwelling? I really do like the fact that many of the places available for rent in my fair city are not the sterile, mass produced apartments that you oh-so often see. A home with character is a lovely thing indeed. And we even have our own unique white-trash accent. Here in Baltimore we dont "wash things in water," rather we "Wersh things in the wutter." Don't worry, both Elise and Jimmy can attest to the fact that I don't talk like that, although a bit of it has been known to shine through in moments of extreme drunkeness. We also have the other necessary things that make a city fun, like good record stores, and charming dive bars...my favorite of which is The Ottobar. They have good bands play there, Cinerama played there about a year ago, cheap booze, and its tucked away in a side street alley. And one of the greatest independent video stores I've ever seen, Video Amerecaine. If you are looking for hard to find trashy horror films, or anything else for that matter, this is your place! We also have the quite unique and fascinating Museam of Visionary Art, a whole museam dedicate to outsider art and other artistic pecularities...there is always something interesting to see there. Sorry for all of the rambling, I just wanted to set the record straight, since Baltimore seems to have a chronic bad reputation. Granted, the city does have it's unpleasant aspects, but what city doesn't? I just think most people who visit or are new to the area miss all of the lovely things it has to offer. Well there may have not been any Belle and Sebastian related material in this post, but rest assured, I do love them...and I hope that they read this post and feel the extrememly dire need (which they should!) to visit lurvely Baltimore next time they they tour!!! I will personally show them all around so the leave with the proper impression of the town. Hey, it sounds like a good enough idea to me. Well lovelies, that's it....for now. Love to all, most especially my beloved Elise. Hugs and sightings of John Waters, Sean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 00:06:20 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:06:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: A spooky witch in a sexy dress Message-ID: <20011031000620.96016.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> HELLOOOO SINISTEREENS! The clocks have been put back an hour, the pumpkin has been carved, the costume is nearly (almost?) planned out, and I'm ready for some cider...yes, indeed, the season has arrived! I have a pomegranite tree in my backyard...the fruits are hanging heavy and spilling onto the slatted patio covering. Some are even falling through and splattering onto the concrete like little bloody heads. It's all so very ghastly! And would you believe it, it's raining in Los Angeles today! Hooray! In the words of Lindsey Baker: "halloween shenanigens have hit the newsroom" HALLOWEEN IS A FOOT (especially when you're wearing Halloween socks!) ***************A SINISTER HALLOWEEN/FASHION REPORT******************** LINDSEY BAKER will dress as a blushing bride and says that she will continue to do so, just in case someone feels like tricking her into marriage, then she'll be dressed for the occasion! I have said for a while that if I ever get married I want it to be on Halloween so I can dress as The Bride of Frankenstein! My mother would be so proud! ;) AMY APPLE JACKS contemplated being Strawberry Shortcake or a Campbell's Soup Kid, but settled for the Old Coked Out Whore, which is scarier but doesn't smell nearly as yummy (or let's hope you don't prefer the scent!) My co-workers call me Strawberry Shortcake because of my red bowl haircut, but I have since thrown out my strawberry lipgloss (not really) because a certain boy I know hates to be reminded of his childhood and the aforementioned strawberry scented doll! He knows who he is ;) He don't love me, he just love my 'berry style! Truth is, I don't have a pinnafore. Or a pink cat. KIRSTEN KENYON wrote: "we drank some....and i found some shimmery blue powder and we started having fun....leslie got out shiny grey garbage bags, and we found glitter and tape....and within fifteen minutes we were three mod spacewomen, and i kept saying "meepmeep" and melissa kept walking with her arms at her sides and her hands out at a ninety degree angle, and leslie kept taking photographs." Yeah, Kirst, I expect to get some of these photos in my mailbox asap, I'll bet you looked cuuuute!!!! ;) I hope you didn't meepmeep the camera when leslie took the pics! ROBYN FADDEN wrote: " i put some wings and glitter on. and my red boots, which i really think are what fairies would wear if they needed shoes. later i drank some gin out of a jar for a while. from what i observed it seemed a lot of people were dressed as hunter s. thompson. or maybe just *like* him." I think fairies would definitely wear red boots, and drink gin out of a jar, but I think fairies might steer clear of Hunter S. but I suppose that's what the jar of gin is for!! LAURA LLEW wrote earlier this month: "for Halloween when I shall be Isadora Quagmire (http://www.lemonysnicket.com/tc_isadora.html) and yes, I plan to do that exact expression for the entire day and speak only in couplets." I am curious to know how that works out for you miss Llew!! I think you win a prize for the best costume idea!!!! ASM WALTON wrote: "Amy Apple Jacks mentioned Hallowe'en parties. I went to one last night, at Feather-Boa's house. It was fun. People were dressed in black with black nail polish and all the rest of it. List Lurkers Gina and Mr Hallifax were both in attendance, and there was at least one ex-member there too. I didn't see F-B. By all accounts she spent most of the night hugging her toilet." OHHHH NO, Feather Boa!!! Missed your own party because you had a hot date with some cold linoleum! :( I hope the rest of you lot had fun! And on a Halloween-related note, RACHEL CORNFLAKE wrote:"alas he told me I resembled Gargamel, the bad guy who was always trying to catch the Smurfs. OK, first I was a little frightened. But then he explained why: because when I'm not smiling, I look like I'm plotting something "sinister"!! He actually called me Sinister. Little does he know...." What a coincidence! I called my boss Gargamel the other day and he started laughing really really hard!!! He also was looking sinister! *******************SWINGIN' SINISTERS UNDER 20******************** Rachel Cornflake wrote: "I'm starting an imaginary club for Sinister kids. Those of us 20 and under. We'll embrace each other in our underage bliss. I just like to imagine frollicing with Astrid and Jenowl." Kate cut-up is in that crowd, too! As is Erin: Punctuation Menace. And Staralful. And Matt Henderson. I'm sure there are many more of you!!! Like Rachels Grapenut and Orange Juice, for instance! In rebuttal, Ken Chu said: "There has been a lot of talks about a Sinister under20's love club, I think it is grossly unfair idea, for I have just turned 21 a few months ago, and have therefore missed out." Well, Ken don't fret. There are plenty of us here who are over 20 as well. In fact, I am contemplating starting the imaginary Sinister Retirement Community (why are they always called "communities!") for all of the listees edging their way towards 30 and beyond. (yeah there must be like 3 or 4 of us on the list!) Luckily, Mr. Chu, we look young enough to join the youngsters at their makeout party, and act it, too! So we get the best of both worlds! By the way Chuey, what's your sign? ;) Do you post here often? Not to be a name dropper or anything, but SHAWN KRUEGER wrote: "Plus, I must surely be a lot older than the majority of you....and nothing good usually comes from listening to your elders." and he also posted a list of B&S's cover song performances which was grate! THANK YOU SHAWN!!! ***************THE ELATION OF (R)E-LATIONSHIPS******************** Caleb Ben (A.K.A. RAW) wrote: " of course this is all very sudden, i admit, but it's just such a marvelous feeling to revel in, i really think it's going to be THE fashionable thing to do this autumn. you'd be smart to jump on the wagon folks, cause the love train's about to leave the station.... :)" Well, I think Caleb Ben is right! Stamp my ticket, baby! I have butterfly stomach for Mr Ben Apps! Rach Cornflake wrote about her dilemma of whether or not to go visit her Pennsylvania boy over winter break. I'd say just be very careful. Be sure that you have a safe situation when you visit. I think it's good to meet, since you get along so well on the phone and through e-mails, so that it brings more realism into it. So I'd say yeah, check it out, but maybe bring a friend or something, be safe. And check out colleges while you're back east, for real! Especially if your visit with the boy goes well! ;) And just look what Chu had to say: "The moral of the story is.. um.. that girls should invite Ken out to dates soon. and that red bull is great." ********************MIXING TO BEAT DOWN YOUR WILL******************* Ken, the next time I come 'round your place to bribe you to win the Mixtape competition, will you go out with me? I think you already went out with me in your dreams, except my eyes are usually more blue than green, but maybe they just *looked* green in your dream because of all of the american dollars I was foolishly trying to slip to you across the table reflecting up in my eyes. Sure, I was trying to palm a c-note to you, but I also wanted to hold your hand, really. I swear. Desmond Torpey wrote: "...all this mixtaping is mighty confusing...i cant remember which will is which and whether rachel is a cornflake or a fruitloop so i'll stay out of it and just await the results...i've got �10 on the dastardly mr chu making a late entry and stealing the title himself with his army of fellow kens (livingstone,branagh,clarke etc)..my what a mixtape team that would be..." Well, don't fear Des, I will be introducing the Revolutionaries of the !Viva Rachels! movement in a post to come very soon! An army of Kens swooping in and winning the battle is a fairly far-fetched idea since we Rachels plan to keep Mr. Chu so "busy" that he won't have time for making mixtapes to beat us with. We're sending in our gratest ally to make sweet music with him, A certain miss Kirsten Kenyon! But he is very shrewd indeed... hmmm. Are you getting all of this, Rachels? Be on full alert! Punk Raque Jimmie G. wrote: "Anyways, I feel like a star because Shawn (of the dynamic due Shawn and Emily) mentioned me in a post, though he did call me "Jim Gilmer (the nicest man in Michigan)" Jim, I think Shawn might be right about that one, you are REALLY SWEET, you know! I'm a fan! And not just because you say I give good mix! ;) ******************BELLE & SEBASTIAN OBSERVATIONS********************* Daniela in Brazil wrote: "He said we had to leave that place cause the security guard could find us. But he asked us to follow him. We followed the guy, followed him a little bit more, and when we realized...WE WERE ON THE STAGE. WE WERE ON THE STAGE WITH B AND S WATCHING THEM PLAYING." Wow!!!! That is more than a twee triumph, that's a mighty conquering!!! Awesome Daniela! Hannah Brown wrote: "On friday me and some friends stayed up late and played cards, we put on "feeling sinister" and my friend told me that that album will always remind him of me. I thought that was a really grate thing to say and it made me smile for ages." This is a lovely compliment, indeed. I hope that someone says that to me someday, too! I think that's probably the nicest compliment when people tell you that music that you love reminds them of you! Rob S. wrote the most beautiful wonderful thing: "i look at the sky and think of how everything in my lifetime is going to change beyond recognition. and am i scared. maybe or maybe not. but thank you belle and sebastian, because never before have i so-much been able to apply your music to my life...." I couldn't agree with you more, Rob. The lyrics and music of Belle & Sebastian say everything I can't form into words, and that is why I can't imagine life without them. Even as I get older, the words still speak to me, in slightly new and different ways, but I think that is the most touching aspect of all. David Moore wrote:"That "Waking Up To Us" cover. Some people have referred to the "girl" in the photo, so I guess not everyone realises that it is Sarah (Martin)" I didn't know that, but now that you mention it... yeah, it's totally her, dude! She looks almost the same now, doesn't she? **********************AUTUMNAL RECKONINGS*************************** Archel, did you read what James Dancin' on the Hatchback wrote?: "This just in..Sainsburys 15p bread is no more. They've have replaced it with something of similar quality but upped the price to 19p, Bastards!" Archel Toast is now earning her bread money being the twee librarian type that we all adore!! Yippeee! She also wrote: "well, i missed out on my extra hour of sleep today as i forgot the clocks went back (despite reminding everyone i know yesterday)." I did the same thing, I felt like a dork. But I am glad that it has finally happened and now I feel such joy because even here in the L.A. area the season seems a bit more real. I don't like getting out of work when it's dark, but it's a trade-off! Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but I like to listen to certain albums during specific seasons. I LOVE to listen to the Cocteau Twins' album "Treasure" during this time of year! What do you all recommend out there? Robin wrote: "to think that a Pulp album came out last week and I'm not listening to it all the time is a bit depressing." I am also a bit depressed that their album is out and I don't even have it. I used to count down the days and collect every format, and this new album COULD BE making it's way into my Autumn album rotation, but... now, I'm just thinking that I'll get around to buying it eventually...am I getting old, or am I just lazy? Or is getting lazy a sign that you're getting on? I think that I might have to go buy this Poe album, because Jim's description has me swooning!!! And I quoth Jim Gilmer, evermore: "Does anyone else out there like Poe? I mean the singer, not old Edgar Allen. I've been listening to her album "Haunted" quite a bit lately, especially since I'm rereading her brother's utterly mad novel HOUSE OF LEAVES. "Haunted" is the perfect October album, it makes you feel like autumn and you can smell the burning leaves and see the colours changing on the trees in old, dark woods as you listen to it." Genevieve posted a grate poem "seeing as it's monday and all, that used to be The Sacred Feast of the Poetry Parrot." she also said of Blue Oyster Cult "my special friend cried out 'Not B.O.C! Horrible!' but that just made me laugh - I didn't know they were referred to as Bee Oh Cee." Yeah, you know I had no idea about B.O.C. but it sure is fun! I like to abbreviate things like saying "The H is O" instead of saying "The heat is on" but I stole that from Saturday Night Live. Maybe that's why I'm the only one who laughs when I say it. I also like to sing "The heater's on" to the tune of "The Heat Is On", and make my own horn section, whenever I have to turn on the heat. You should try it. And laughing at your own dorkiness and dancing around like an idiot really warms you up! I'm happy to hear that you're well enough to be back at uni, Fiona! I'm going to leave you with my favorite sinister quote from the last 2 days: "Yeah I'm making up my own holidays dude"-Kenneth P Y Chu Love to you all, (and huge hugs for Ryan, Elise & Sean, Juju, The Rachels, and Mr. B!) Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETypeJoe at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 02:41:00 2001 From: ETypeJoe at xxx.com (ETypeJoe at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:41:00 EST Subject: Sinister: pulling my fingers off Message-ID: i'm just recovering from a double sinister shock - first mark hester knocks me sideways with mentions of the mighty paris angels, and the wendys, and then rachel fruitloop reminds me of my own mortality with talk of a sinister retirement community. i don't know whether to take some comfort from the fact that there are one or two of us more ancient listees (in my case i have to think back over three whole years, just to remember a time when my age started with a 2 not a 3 - just think about exactly how old that is kids - rather scarily i could potentially be a father to one or two on the list, and no don't anybody suggest a sinister adoption scheme - i couldn't bear the responsibility) or just to feel old and sad. so just why i am posting instead of digging out that old bodines 7" (sorry mention of fab mancunian groups of yore has set me off, and yes i do know the wendys were from embra, but they may as well been manc) - two reasons really. firstly ace dj of this parish, well alright then john peel from radio 1 is running his fantastic festive 50 again this year. for those that don't know you can vote for your three favourite tracks of the year, including session tracks, and he plays the top 50 as voted over xmas time. details of voting will undoubtedly appear on www..bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/peel or on his radio 1 show (i'm too tired to explain the details here, but mail me off list if you want more info and can't be bothered to find out - i can prolly cope with explaining at a more godly hour), but you do have to vote in the month of november. it would be grately pleasing to see a ditty or two from any popular 8-piece scottish beat combos if you can think of any (hurrah, tenuous b&s content!), not that i'd be wanting to encourage any wild accusations of brit award style vote rigging campaigns, of course - oh no, not me... he has a pulp live set including webcast on tomorrow (wednesday 31st) by the way, with the lovely hefner on the night after (audio only, but at least we won't have to look at darren) the other more reason was the disturbing piece of graffiti i saw on a crossing at clapham common last weekend during my six-monthly visit to the big metropolis from the northern hinterlands that are south manchester. it read "chu was here". what can it all mean?... anyway, i am about to fall asleep so back to lurkerdom with intent from whence i came. a big hey to gina, and chris - i will mail you sometime before the next ice age. now just where is my man from delmonte tape?... tara for now, jonny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Oct 31 08:18:10 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:18:10 +1300 Subject: Sinister: ramblings from the southern hemisphere ..... Message-ID: <001001c161e4$b5e97be0$106137d2@computer> hello folks ..... It's been a long time since I've posted, mainly because I've been tied up with wedding stuff. Which has been a bit nerve wracking. Plus getting our new place together, which has, again, been a bit nerve wracking. I am currently trying to sort out my legion of CDs. I lost count somewhere past 600, and right now I am just trying to work out a storage solution, other than being "stored" in a higgledy-piggledy fashion in a series of shoe boxes and the like. I want a big bookshelf type arrangement for them all, so they can finally be alphabestied. Jeez ... I'm starting to sound like the guys in "High Fidelity" aren't I? Anyway, my main reason for posting was merely to reassert myself as New Zealand's biggest poster. In my wedding-preparation-absence, another Aucklander has come out of the woodwork - Cunning Andre - which was a little disturbing. Two posts in as many days from someone I didn't know existed, in a land not know for it's wealth of B&S fans. I digress .... but hopefully there will be the first inaugural Sinister Auckland picnic sometime before or after Christmas. Exciting times. I am designing a flyer and planning the days as we speak. (sad bastard!) So, a few new things in the B&S camp ..... Firstly, *THE COVER OF THE NEW SINGLE*. It's a cracker! The dog looks like my dearly departed beagle-cross, Suzy, who sadly left us in '99, just a few days after "Tigermilk" was released on CD. I always link the two in my mind, so that LP has happy/sad feelings. Is that Sarah on the cover? Whoever it is ... she's lovely and I want to be her friend. There's something wonderful about a girl and a dog. All of a man's needs in one tidy package. and also *STORYTELLING* When does this open in the civilised world/Northern hemisphere? (It won't hit NZ for at least 6 months, if at all, I'd wager.) I am still eagerly watching my inbox for any news about the forthcoming soundtrack album. I hope it's a bunch of new stuff. It seems like such a long time since "Fold Your Hands ...." came out. I need a new B&S CD which lasts longer than 10 minutes. Also ..... *THE DIVINE COMEDY VS. BELLE & SEBASTIAN* Well, not really. But I've been listening to "Liberation" a lot lately. it's my favourite of their albums. Anyway, my question is ....... "As a loving pastiche of 80's synthpop, which song is better ..... a) 'Electronic Renaissance by Belle & Sebastian, or ... b) 'Europop' by The Divine Comedy. Answers on the back of an email please. Sad that the DC has split, although I guess Neil Hannon essentially *is* The Divine Comedy, and hopefully he'll keep working under that name. and, more to the point .... *SPEARMINT* Are they any good? I ordered "Oklahoma" (their Christmas themed album) the other day, having been recommended them by a few usually trustworthy people. And like the idea of Christmas albums ... especially as there are only 9 weeks 'till Christmas. Anyone care to let me know what I'm in for? Somewhere I read that they "were like a Postcard band" which made me quite excited. ********************************* Stuff of little interest to most listees, but included on the basis it maybe of *some* interest to *some* listees. Feel free to skip. ********************************* For anyone who's interested in New Zealand music, APRA (Australasian Performing Rights Assoc., I think) published a list of the top 30 New Zealand songs of all time. it's a bit of a joke, but here's the list. for those who can't be bothered clicking on the link, here's the list ..... 1. Nature, Wayne Mason (Fourmyula, 1969) 2. Don't Dream It's Over, Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1987) 3. Loyal, Dave Dobbyn (1988) 4. Counting The Beat, Phil Judd/Mark Hough/ Wayne Stevens (The Swingers, 1981) 5. Six Months In A Leaky Boat, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1982) 6. Sway, Bic Runga (1997) 7. Slice Of Heaven, Dave Dobbyn (Dave Dobbyn with Herbs, 1986) 8. Victoria, Jordan Luck (Dance Exponents, 1982) 9. She Speeds, Shayne Carter (StraitjacketFits, 1987) 10. April Sun In Cuba Paul Hewson/Marc Hunter (Dragon, 1978) 11. I Got You, Neil Finn (Split Enz, 1980) 12. Whaling, Dave Dobbyn (DD Smash, 1984) 13. Not Given Lightly, Chris Knox (1990) 14. Pink Frost, Martin Phillipps (The Chills, 1984) 15. Jesus I Was Evil, Darcy Clay (1997) 16. Weather With You, Tim Finn/Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1991) 17. Blue Smoke, Ruru Karaitiana (Pixie Williams and the Ruru Karaitiana Quartet, 1949) 18. Dance All Around the World, Corben Simpson, Geoff Murphy (Blerta, 1972) 19. Lydia, Julia Deans (Fur Patrol, 2000) 20. Blue Lady, Graham Brazier (Hello Sailor, 1977) 21. Drive, Bic Runga (1996) 22. Chains, Che Fu/DLT/Angus McNaughton/Kevin Rangihuna (1996) 23. Dominion Road, Don McGlashan (Muttonbirds, 1993) 24. Glad I'm Not a Kennedy, Shona Laing (1986) 25. I Hope I Never, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1980) 26. Tears, Fane Flaws/Arthur Baysting (Crocodiles, 1980) 27. Be Mine Tonight, Dave Dobbyn/Ian Morris (Th'Dudes,1978) 28. I See Red, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1979) 29. Beside You, Dave Dobbyn (1998) 30. Home Again, Karl Kippenberger/Tom Larkin/Phil Knight/Jon Toogood (Shihad, 1997) "Nature" was a good choice ....... Interesting that, according to APRA, 11 of the NZ's top 30 songs are written by either Dave Dobbyn, Tim or Neil Finn. In my opinion Martin Phillipps has written as many classic pop moments as Neil Finn. Certainly, that "Husband House" by The Sneaky Feelings , or anything by The Clean for that matter, weren't included, is nothing short of blasphemous. The list seemed to largely ignore the whole Flying Nun scene, which was sad. A friend of mine was at the awards, and said that in the video montage that was shown, Flying Nun hardly got a look in. OK, off to bed ...... sleep tight, listees, Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Wed Oct 31 13:20:47 2001 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (velocity farewell) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 05:20:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: paRadiSe is f0R tHe bLessEd n0t f0R tHe seX 0BsessEd... Message-ID: <20011031132047.53951.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> hello the sinistericals... how are you all this beautiful autumn day? i'm listening to Xfm right now and this stupid woman says that the new embrace single's gonna be huuuuuge! tch tch... oh oh... she now has mr hannon on air... like who cares if Divine Comedy split up or not? there's one song i like by them tho' and it's not even theirs! but how could they go wrong with a Burt Bacharach song? and i'm talking about "make it easy on yourself" of course... anyway... Rachel titled her post "a spooky witch in a sexy dress" and gave me thoughts of my dog, spooky, in a sexy dress... you know the only piece of cloth she ever wore was these self-made knickers i made for her for obvious reasons (her being a she-dog) with a hole at the back for her tail to pop out! but i think that since she's moving to glasgow in a few months she'll need some warm clothes!! mmmm that makes me wonder about belle's gardarobe! there are 6 women in my office right now talking away in their so annoying screeching voices! and that makes me wonder... have these women ever been loved? and if they did who was the psycho that loved them!! yikes! that'll give me nightmares for a week... grrr stop laughing you bloody moo!!! don't you just hate people who laugh loud? i think that shows really bad manners! like talking loud too... so so anti-erotic! I'd better light up a fag! XfM's just announced the JoaN of ARse gig!! yay!! which reminded me that joanofdark should change her nickname... too goth methinks...joanofarse is much better and furthermore it'll get you some extra crush votes!! *giggles*... I hope JohanyMahony doesn't take this the wrong way... "i listen to the radio at night... waiting to hear your voice..." mmmm what a lovely song... unfortunately i cannot listen to brit radio at home so i won't hear your voice my love... "i'm waiting for the telephone to ring; waiting till late hours..." but will you call? or it is more likely to only hear your voice on the radio? PJ Harvey's on the radio... i hate her... mmm no, hate is a strong word! i just despise her! she's so ugly and such a bloody freak! the only descent song that she sings is the one with nicholas cave "henry lee" about HenRy Lee Lucas, a notorious american serial killer... "so what have you done in your life Henry Lee?" "I burnt, i killed, i had sex with men, with corpses, i ate human flesh, i married a girl 25 years younger than me and then i killed her in a motel room and burried her in the desert..." ... "oh henry lee, you're so misunderstood"... 2 times they led him to the electric chair... 2 times the electric chair "good ol'smokie" was conveniently broken and henry lee was returned to his cell half-burned... till one day he was found dead in his cell... suicide... I wonder... what is worse? listening to radiohead on the radio or listening to the bloody moos keep talking and giggling in the office? they both seem completely annoying to me... oh txt message from Gav to save me!! phew.... technology's a darling innit!! StayC (dahling) the diaRyGiRl was here visiting... she just stayed 5 days this time... she was ill with a terrible flu...a virus she brought with her from the UK... we had chocolate souffle, vegetable soup, watched horror films whilst snuggling under the blanket, been terrorised by insane men, made her come up on the rooftop of a hospital building that was not completely built yet.... mmm you know i have this obsession with roof tops! see "IF" and "LEON" to know why! I played mummy for the weekend... twas nice... i wish my Lixi-Lux was here for me to look after her... she's too ill with this bad bad flu! but thankfully she has Ally Warhol Cinnamon to escort her to easyeverything! I was jealous of my fellow go-go dancer P00kie's poem, so here's mine.... i thought it was very appropriate... it's by Dante Gabriel Rossetti and it's called "On Refusal of Aid Between Nations" Not that the earth is changing, O my God! Nor that the seasons totter in their walk, Not that the virulent ill of act and talk Seethes ever as a winepress ever trod, Not therefore are we certain that the rod Weighs in thine hand to smite thy world, though now Beneath thine hand so many nations bow, So many kings: -- not therefore, O my God! � But because Man is parceled out in men To-day; because, for any wrongful blow, No man not stricken asks, "I would be told Why thou dost thus; "but his heart whispers then, "He is he, I am I.�"By this we know That the earth falls asunder, being old. ............ I think my beloved fellow spinisterine LauraL will appreciate this poem... I miss some people in this list... pRimitive painteR, where aRt thou?? do post! or email me, ok? AndRew Williams hasn't posted for a while... why Andrew? I like Richard's mou (Gillander's) short short sentences... they are like shots! or like slaps! or like lashings! nice... When me and my StayC woke up this morning we were like half asleep still.. so I played the B+S cd my little cousin HoneyMeleniawhooshingprincess gave me when we were having the greenwich picnic in june... it made me wonder... i can't believe there are people who don't really like "jonathan+david"... i love this song... it is bittersweet... and stevie sings... and i like it when stevie sings... i also like "i love my car"... but again the trumbet lines in "i love my car" were ripped off of Dexy's songs... "for god's sake buRn it down"!! i think B+S are on their prime... their full blossoming... but of course after the full blossoming, withering and after that decomposition follows... let's hope that's not the case here... I've started boring myself... who knows how much i must have bored you... but then falling into boredom very fast and very easily is one of my life's curses... mmm one last thing... a happy thing! i found in the net the house of my dreams in Glasgow!! tis for rent... 900quid/month!! me, my Paul and Nicholas are moving there... hopefully!! it even has an attic/studio!! there, i'll be able to paint and play with my little cousin, playing with our dolls making them great clothes!! and it has a garden too! that means the S(inister) G(uide) G(irls) will have a place to set their tent and spend nights talking about boys, worst snogs ever and clothes and make-up and mesoforia that woooshhhhh and also tell scary stories under the torch light! I can't wait! take care hugs, Vel xxx PS: there's a sinistergirl who came to London from the states for her postgraduate studies... her name is Sarah Garrett Sonner (ssonner at hotmail.com) and she's a darling! (Sarah I hope that you don't mind me giving your email addy away) I hope some nice sinisterines will hold her hand! PpS: JaM's "down by the tube station at midnight" is on XfM right now!! wooohooo!! the annoying indie girl's gone!!! yay! "waR is the last p0ssible cReative act" micktravis "IF" "I went down to the demonstration to give my fair share of abuse..",you can't always have what you want, the RS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pykachu100 at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 15:00:15 2001 From: pykachu100 at xxx.com (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:00:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a plummer pasting Message-ID: Hallo weeners! How are your halloweens? Hope it's going well, mine has been spooky. This morning everyone in my department has been a calm day, nothing was happening at all, in fact, you can even say that it was a bit dull. Then there was a meeting for all of the permanent staff in my department, leaving just me to answer all of the phone calls. Suddently, everyone from the whole of the UK, and some from Jupiter decided to call into the office with a godzillion (which is bigger than a gazillion) questions that I can't answer, and then as soon as the meeting was over, no one called again. Then, on my lunch hour, I was expected to find my car in the car park, and when I got to the car park, guess what? My car was there!! Spooky or what? Well, what I also found, was another car, parked perfectly in front of my car, boxing it in, in a total eclipse fashion! My car was just stuck there like a floater in a water closset, wouldn't move anywhere. Instincts told me to look around in search for Jeremy Beadle, to see if he's about, cos I was sure this was a practical joke, but nope, no TV crew, no nothing. I think a halloween ghost gave me loads of random phone calls today and moved a car in front of mine, just because I didn't give him a sweet last year. That's a bit narrow-chested if you ask me, I bet it's the ghost of Sporty Spice. Yes, so that car's handbrake wasn't on, but shh! You're ruining my halloween mystery! Youn and pez talked about Judy and the Dream of horses and the boy done wrong again.. personally I like both, I like Judy cos it's cute and it has a fantastic finale, and album enders should have fantastic finales like that. I liked The Boy Done Wrong Again for its sentiment. I remember I few years ago I told someone that my ambition is to one day write a really sad song that will make everyone cry, and then a couple of years later I heard the song and there was the lyrics "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song, and if you would sing along I will be happier", and I was like, "wow". Spooky, you'd even say. I always thought "Judy I don't know you if you're gonna show me everything" meant "I am going to pretend that I don't know you if you're going to flash your boobs to me in public", Stuart was trying to sound as if he's not a pervy guy, but a few years later he admits his guilt. "I'm not to proud to say that I'm okay with the girl next door who's famous for showing her chest". Another mystery solved... I'm good with mysteries today. Mysteriously Large Boobs and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Oct 31 15:44:05 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:44:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Live on Sinister TV tonight... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058FD3@PIKACHU> Good evening, you're watching our exclusive new digital TV station, Sinister TV. All the news, views and reviews you need from our worldwide army of correspondents. Coming up: Peter Miller's documentary on the lives of lemurs, followed by Mark Casarotto in the new series of Queer As Folk. But now, it's over to James "Dancing" Hatcher in our sports studio for the big match: Rachel Rovers v Wills United. (Cue U2's Beautiful Day, to be played at least 20 times in the next half-hour) "Good evening, and welcome to the biggest match of the season so far. Rachel Rovers have won the league for the last two years now, since the untimely demise of Keith Athletic; but his year they face a new challenge, in the form of the rejuvenated Wills United. Let's get the views of our expert guest, none other than the legendary Pinefox." "Action. Competition. Smooth. Robust. Sense? Nonsense. Good game." "Thanks for those incisive comments. Now, without further ado, over to John Motson for commentary on this vital top-of-the-archives game, live from Honey's Bar." "Hello, and welcome to this seething cauldron, this theatre of drama, this temple of wonderment, this..." "Get on with it!" "Sorry James, got a bit carried away there. Anyway, We're here in the lounge area of Honey's Bar for this eagerly anticipated match-up. We've got a huge crowd of almost six. and they're - no, wait, here come the teams. First out are Rachel Rovers, led out by their captain, Archel Toast. They jog out to the centre of the Arena; there's star striker Rachel Fruitloop, Rachel Grapenut, Rachel Eggs and Bacon, and at the back their goalkeeper Rachel Haven't-Got-Time-For-Breakfast-Today-I'm-Late-For-Work. They'll be wearing their home strip today, pink and puce stripes with orange shorts, and the name of their sponsors Kelloggs on the front. "Next, here come Wills United. They're led out by Will Porter, just recovered from a cruciate ligament injury. No, I don't know what one of them is either, but someone in every sports team you ever see always seem to have injured theirs. Personally I reckon it's just an excuse because they're too hungover and can't be bothered to run about for an hour and a half. Anyway, there's the last few team members coming out of the tunnel from the beer cellar. So we've just got to wait for the presentations. The guest of honour today is none other than Llllllaura Lllllllew, aka the face that launched a thousand hips. She's working her way along the Wills row now, and - oh dear - Will Salt has run off the pitch after her. That's going to leave their team one man short for the start of the match. Amazingly, that's the fifth time he's done that this seaon, and it's only the third game. "Our referee tonight is Genevieve from Canada, who sent off three people in her last game in charge. Let's hope we don't get the same again tonight. There's a screech as the whistle goes - oh, sorry it's just Stuart Murdoch trying to reach the high notes in She's Losing It again. Right, now they're underway. The Rachels are off to a good start, gaining possession of the tape recorder; but a nifty dummy from Will Power and the Go-Betweens CD is safely in the hands of the keeper. Meanwhile, Rachel is working well down the left. She passes to Rachel, who does a quick one-two with Rachel. She boots it upfield, where Rachel brings it down brilliantly; she lays it off to Rachel, who turns and lifts a cross into the area. It's gone over Rachel's head, but Rachel is there on the end of it; a quick shot, but Will is on the end of it and saves spectacularly. Well, a frantic start there, time for some early comments from our expert summarizer, Idleberry." "The Rachels are looking good, they've prepared well and done their homework. Their movement off the ball is superb, and it's only a matter of time before they get the result they want. A bad tackle there, Will was lifted completely off the ground, he's got blood on his shirt. But that's fine, because with new Daz powder, his white shirt will turn out brilliantly, it works great even on tough stains like blood, mud and red wine..." "What are you going on about?" "Ooops, sorry John, I got a bit carried away there. I'm doing a voiceover for a washing powder advert tomorrow morning, thought I'd better get some practice in." "OK, let's just concentrate on the game Idles, can we?" "Sorry, it won't happen again. I'll keep it clean from now on. Almost as clean as washing done with Daz Ultra..." "Right, that's it, you're sacked as our expert summarizer. Let's get back to the action, shall we? A quick glance at the scoreboard tells us that it's now 3-2 to the Rachels, a great match, the best of the season, you don't want to miss a moment of it. We'll be right back after this short break." --SNAP-- "I didn't mean that sort of break, you idiot. Anyway, now we're back, the score is 4-4, so you didn't miss much. Apart from that goal-of-the-season contender from Rachel Marmalade. But Will HeOrWon'tHe has possession, and is looking to distribute. Isn't that illegal? A quick look up, and he spots Will AndTestament upfield. But wait! Just as he was about to make the pass, a dreadful high challenge came in from Archel Toast, she's tackled him right in the tackle. He's on the ground, rolling around in pain, clutching his groin. at least, I hope that's why he's clutching his groin. The referee's going to have to take some sort of action here. She knows how much damage an injury there could do to Will's future life, he won't be having any children for a while. He's married, one child. But that didn't work out, so he married an adult instead. "Genevieve, the referee, reaches for her pocket, and what kind of card will she produce? Yes! It's a Christmas card. she's forcing Archel to sign it and post it to Will to make friends again. No hard feelings, except possibly in Will's groin area. So, back to the action, with a free pass to the Wills. They've gained possession of the tape deck, and are determined to break down the Rachels' defence and get through to Rachel Cornflake's CD collection. But hold on, what's going on here? There's some people on the pitch, do they think it's all over? "There's a 4-man pitch invasion in progress. Hang on a minute, I recognise them! It's four members of the Sporting Stuarts team, Rachel Rovers' deadly rivals. And they look like they're ready to fight! This is terrible, they've interrupted a superb match just to settle a few old scores. There's Big Stu trying to start a fight with Will MaFlinstone in the middle of the pitch. Archel tries to aim a punch at him, but she can't reach. Stuart Hallifax is chasing a couple of Rachels. Meanwhile, Stuart Murdoch, the ex-boxer, is taking on the rest of the Wills team single-handed. I'm sure it would be much more effective if he used both hands, but never mind. And on the far side of the pitch, Stuart David is working his way round the Rachels team shouting 'Pish! Pish! Pish!' at them. "There's chaos all over the pitch. The crowd are getting agitated, and they're all heading for the bar. And yes, the referee has called off the game. It's a disgrace, there's going to have to be an enquiry into this. So, back to James Hatcher in the studio." "Thank you, John Motson at Honey's Bar. Well, quite extraordinary scenes there, what did you make of it Pinefox?" "Disgrace. Panic. Fight. Over." "Hmmm, interesting. But who do you think was behind all this? Surely the Stuarts couldn't have organised all this by themselves, so who did? Kirsten Kenyon has joined us, have you go any idea who might be responsible?" "Well, it's very tempting to blame the evil Ken Chu for this. But we blamed him last time in The Case Of The Runaway Thread, so we'd better think of some new plot ideas this time." "And what can be done to stop this happening again?" "Well, it's simple - we just need to pick some random foreign person to blame. It doesn't matter whether it was them or not, because we won't bother having a trial, we'll just bomb their country for a few months." "That's great. So, Pinefox, before we go, any last thoughts?" "Jump. Rabbit. Paperclip. Time. My Editor." "Thank you. Well, it's been an eventful day here. We'll be back next week, when we'll have exclusive coverage of the local derby between the Robins and the Roberts." This has been a Sinister TV production. All rights reserved, all wrongs reversed. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 16:28:42 2001 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:28:42 -0600 Subject: Sinister: paRadiSe is f0R tHe bLessEd n0t f0R tHe seX 0BsessEd... Message-ID: good morning sinister... ok so i get to class....late as usuall, limping cause i have just about totaly knocked off my little toe last night on the corner of the couch in my room last night. this being the second incident of pinky toe injury this week....yet...my hopes are still high for good halloween this year, mainly caus i get to take kirstin trick-o-treating tonight. shes gonna be a fairy but not the ordinary pink-foo-foo-bunny type of fairy. shes gonna be a really cool fall fairy all black and purple and orange.Yay! any way as i was saying i got to class turned on my computer and what do you suppose spinner plus had desided to play for me first thing this morning? "like dylan in the movies" wasnt that nice of them? any way i havent really been consistant with my reading of post, and most of the time i read half and then get distracted doing somthing eles. but i did read this bit... ... grrr stop laughing you bloody moo!!! don't you just hate people who laugh loud? i think that shows really bad manners! like talking loud too... so so anti-erotic! well i would agree i hate people who do that too....mainly cos i do it...a good reason to hate any quality in a person is when i posses that quality myself. but heres the crazy part.....spinner then plays "stop laughing" by The Moos. and it had strangly an erotic sound to it.... any way now radiohead is playing "optimistic".... the music is speaking to me today or mabey its the spinner plus..... well i am gonna go before this turns in to some kind of cheesey halloween story where a girls computer is possesed and plays songs to communicate an erie message of some sort -angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mod4real at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 16:33:28 2001 From: mod4real at xxx.com (Toby C) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:33:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Dear Stan, I meant to write you sooner, but I've just been busy. Message-ID: <20011031163328.5388.qmail@web9208.mail.yahoo.com> sorry mates i ve to painfully drop this mailing list for few month coz i ll go to out reach of China ( the silk road) for a production.. and i think i won't get the new single at the silk road or checking my email daily. so... peace, out, toby c __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.au Wed Oct 31 17:01:24 2001 From: helen at xxx.au (Helen McLean) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:01:24 +0800 Subject: Sinister: screech of the siren Message-ID: <004d01c1622d$acbfb5e0$420aa8c0@study> Hello again, Back with even less content than ever before. Tonight my local park is ablaze. The bush all around it gets set fire to at least once a year. Everything is smoky outside and there is a faint orange glow if I look in the parkerly direction. (And I think I just made up a word) Its like the whole street is some dodgy pub or club. Atmospheric even. Except with pensioners in their robe's shuffling out to have a look at the fire and the smoke and mutter to themselves about hooligans and the youth of today. There's nothing like a good blaze to get the neighbourhood talking. Robin Stout returned (yay) with some stories of office life. I too, always listened to anecdotes of others about such things but never realised how insane offices can be. At my work we have a woman who has a small obsession with watching planes fly, and so at the slightest sound of a plane flying overhead (which can happen quite often) she will literally drop everything and bolt out the door and will be staring at the sky smiling. I was confused about this for awhile, no-one having explained this strange running ritual of hers to me for a couple of weeks at least. You would be in the middle of a conversation about such exciting things such as filing and and she would suddenly turn her head and then run away really fast for no apparant reason. It was certainly baffling. I often wonder whether she really likes watching planes at all, or whether over the twenty odd years she has worked for the company she has figured out a bizarre way of avoiding questions and work. Halloween. We actually had a group of trick or treater's tonight, and not living in America but in Australia where not very many people do that kind of thing, I hovered awkwardly at the door not quite sure what the protocol was. Thankfully I have watched enough US television to have some semblance of what to do. We didn't have anything to give. I searched through the pantry and came up with either some tins of tuna or corned beef. It would certainly have been good if we could have gotten rid of that corned beef, it has been sitting in there for years it seems. But that would be like kicking Tiny Tim in the shins. Instead I found some can's of lemonade and sheepishly went back and gave it to them. Well, it was all we had with a great deal of sugar in it. They looked none too impressed though. I think they went out on this venture expecting mountains of sweets and were probably going to come back with something along the lines of a canned food drive. We're just not prepared for this sort of thing here. New single is presumably out soon here too? Anyone with news on Australian release dates, or are they pretty much the same? Hell I'll probably end up paying double for an import anyway but it's nice to know :) Right, well, bye. Helen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 17:34:28 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:34:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: something vague Message-ID: Am I the only one who thinks this B&S love connection club idea is a bad one? Sinister crushes are evil things, I have determined. They come on unexpected, they come on strong. Soon you�re spending several hours per day writing gargantuan emails or chatting into the morning on #sinister, waking up at god-awful hours to account for other time zones. Then one day the whole thing falls apart. Your beloved suddenly finds a real-life love, or you realize the 3,000 miles between you won�t be so easily bridged. Or you meet and things fizzle. Or� there are so many reasons why it just doesn�t work out. And then you look back at all the time you�ve spent pining away, all the silly fantasies you came up with that involved expensive holidays or moves to foreign lands. Soon you are bitter and cursing and listening to Trembling Blue Stars all the time. Not Good. Sorry. I am feeling old and bitter lately. And I have counseled so many hopeless sinister romantics on #sinister that it makes my heart weep. And I have myself fallen victim to the tired charade as well. So forgive me. I�ll just put �Something Vague� on repeat for a few hours and keep all further thoughts on that matter to myself. I don�t know what brought this on. Or why I felt the need to post about it. Perhaps it�s because I�m sitting here, doped up on very strong cold tablets, listening to �Dueling Banjos� from Deliverance, reading a few days backlog of posts, feeling a bit miserable. I don�t know why I should feel this way. Maybe because it�s Halloween and there will be no trick-or-treaters in this neighborhood. Maybe because I just returned from a five-hour bus ride, ready to collapse into bed, entirely forgetting that the night before I left for Volos, I spilled beer on my sheets and neglected to wash them. Now they are in the washer, but lord knows when they will dry, the clothesline being full of wet clothes and the temperature being mighty damn frigid. Is it already winter for you, too? What the hell happened to autumn? I used to love autumn - swishing through colorful heaps of dead leaves, sipping hot apple cider. Now there is nothing to distinguish the change in season except for shorter days and colder nights. Blech. Bless Ms. Vel, who took me under her wing during the last few days and nursed me back to health. She made me soup and watched films with me, cuddled on a couch. She was cheery and happy while I was miserable and ready to die. Sorry I was such a grouch, lovey. And spooky is a wonder dog, although she was intent on chewing my feet to pieces this time. Crazy. I must have ridden in the only double-decker bus in Greece today. Fantastic! I saw it parked at the bus station and actually got excited about the long journey ahead of me. And I wasn�t the only one. All the old people swarmed around, pointing in amazement at the two tables in the center of the bus. After craning their heads to see the tables� corresponding seat numbers, they ran back into the station to make sure they got to sit there. Whereas all the youngsters ran up the stairs and huddled near the front. I was just happy to get a whole seat to myself, even if it meant I was stared at by a random 20-something studmuffin of a boy. Right. This will likely be a very short post indeed. Lucky, because I fear I have become known as the girl of the epic posts. So sorry to hog all your inbox space. I can�t promise it won�t happen again, but not this time at least. Oh yes. So it seems I may have inadvertently become a picnic mummy. Craziness. After discovering that return flights from London to Athens are only 50 quid on EasyJet if booked well in advance, I have begun attempts to lure sinisterenes to Athens for a brief holiday/picnic. Why not? I mean, 50 QUID! That�s less than some train fares within the UK. And I�ve tons of floor space. And I�m an excellent tour guide to all the sites of Athens (I even have a classics degree. Oh yes.) And half-litre bottles of Amstel are only 20p!!! Yes, that�s TWENTY PENCE! I was thinking March. The holidays are too chaotic, and many of you have used up this year�s vacation, I suspect. Unfortunately, this means Vel dear will have already moved to Glasgow by then so won�t be able to join us, which would be a damn shame. She had offered Volos as a picnic spot, since Athens parks are full of scary old men and not too charming. I�m not sure how warm it�ll be by then, especially with this freakish weather lately, but we could still visit a lovely Aegean island or some equivalent exciting destination. And not only will you get to meet me, but Joan of Dark and Zozie as well. I know Sunnyset Rachel is game so far. Any other takers? I somehow managed to lure Ken Chu to make an utterly spontaneous trip into London a few weeks ago, can I entice anyone else into Athens? Think about it. Get back to me. And I�ll continue to scheme through the winter. I�m beginning to miss the UK a bit. I made a little �London� playlist on my computer jukebox. It includes Misteeq. Yes, leave it to me to go to the land of indie and discover garage instead. Ah well. I also came back with Spearmint. And after my freakish first few days of productivity, I had a job interview at a language school. It was not going well AT ALL. She asked me simple questions like why I thought I�d be a good English teacher, and I could hardly put words together to form a cohesive sentence. Then she sent me into a room with a �Business English� textbook for five minutes and came back, saying �Teach me.� Er. WHAT? I fumbled through a lesson about a verb form I wasn�t even aware existed and supposedly did very well. Go figure. So she wanted to take me on, for a measly $80 a week. As soon as I got a green card, a social security number and an official embassy translation of my diploma. �Right, I�ll just get that sorted tomorrow and give you a call,� I told her. I don�t think she got the sarcasm at all. So I�ve decided to stay illegitimate, and am presently searching for tutoring or babysitting jobs. Sad, yes. Essential. Blech. It also means my three-month allowed stay is about to expire so once again I must leave the country so I won�t get thrown out of it. A bit backwards, eh? The next destination: Bulgaria, I think. I once swore I�d never return there, after a particularly traumatic 14-hour train ride during which I was almost kidnapped and married off to a Romanian. But the allure of a Tex-Mex restaurant owned by the mafia is stronger. And this time I�ll take the bus. I�ve learned from my mistakes, see. Listen to me, I am old and wise. Do not have sinister crushes!!!! That�s all. Be good. MWAH! ~dahling (off to the corner bakery to buy some 20p Amstel. Yes, they sell beer at the bakery. And at every corner kiosk as well. Come, come.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 18:29:43 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:29:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Home Sweet Home Message-ID: So, I finally moved into my swish new house. There is a front door, a back door, stairs, a doorbell and something really odd: another person in it. I have a housemate, and within a month I will have two. I'm not very well versed in the rules of house sharing as I have never done it before (I did live with the ex at one time, but I don't think he counts as he mostly sat very still and thought about things). Becky, my new housemate, is a friend so I can't avoid talking to her. What does house sharing protocol say if your housemate comes into your room for a chat but you want to be by yourself? Do you suddenly have to become sociable when you live with other people? I'm not sociable, never will be. And then there's learning to share. I've never been very good at that. I don't even want to share the rooms in my house, let alone my tea bags. I see her walking around and I think "Look at her swanning about in my house. How rude!" then I realise it's her house too. Learning curve, though, as I keep telling myself. I do *heart* Ken Chu, you know. Sometimes I think I *heart* him almost as much as Kenneth P.Y. Chu. He's a clever wee bastard, but awful nice with it. Snog him, girls, you know you want to. I also think I *heart* Big Stu G. He's a clever bastard too, but not so wee as Ken. His post was grand and made me laugh. There has been talk of weather, autumn specifically. I do like autumn, and round the corner from my new house is a lovely big park with a road running parallel to it. All the leaves from the trees land on the pavement and it is the most wonderful street in the world for leaf-kicking. I do worry about dogshit when I leaf-kick, but it's worth it. Another one of life's simple pleasures. You don't even think about it, you're just wondering along and then the next thing you know, you swishing along in crisp russets and browns and oranges and a walk to the chippy becomes a regression to childhood. Something I learnt at university today: there is a word for the technique in a book of using the weather to symbolically to describe a character's intrenal feelings: Pathetic Fallacy. I like the idea of that. Also, I had a lecture abouit Dionysus and stuff and it made me think of The Secret History by Donna Tartt, which is in my Top Three All Time Best Books. I read and read and read that book when I was about 16 or 17 and it was one of those stories that stays with you so long, you're suprised when you turn around and one of the characters isn't standing next to you. Reading for pleasure is not allowed at the moment, as I have too many texts to plough through for university, but I may dig it out and treat myself. Who has read it? Who is your favourite character? (Off list, of course) Do you think you can tell something about a person from who their favourite character is in a book? I mean, I know you can probably get an insight into a person from who their favourite Wizard of Oz character is, or something, but what about books without a main sympathetic character? Content - it's been a while since I managed to get any of that in, and it's still rather tenuous. I went out last night for a proper student night (Scream pub, cheap booze, meat heads from the Sports Societies, cheating game of pool, flirting with barstaff, total shame and embarrassment at how *false* I was) with a lass from my course. She is a B&S fan, although she only has the green album (that's what she called it) so I will make her some tapes of the rest. She's a very nice girl and it makes me happy that I have finally made some friends at university. I have now made (counts) five friends! There has been mention of The Sinister Under 20s Club. A fine idea, although no spitting beer on defenseless girls' heads as there was at my old youth club. Vicky Vodkabird and I formed our own wee club: The Old Codger's Club. I think Honey and Linda may be members, but I'm such an Old Codger I've forgotten. Vic and I always carry clean pants and a toothbrush, we never kip on floors, we often prefer a quiet meal and a chat to a yeard of ale and a kebab session. We prefer comfort over "fun" any day. Big hugs and love to D i s c o Princess Honey. She's a lovely lass, you know. A bit of a goody two shoes, but I'm working on messing up her school tie and putting ladders in her tights. Oh, and Ulla the Sillustrator is just about the best person ever ever. Look at her drawings if you haven't already, they are marvellous. I had planned on the post being better. I was aiming for about 50% of the Llew/Chu standard but I think I've only managed about 15%. Love Madeleine xxxx This post was going to be far better than this. It really was. I wanted to be about 50% as good as Llew and Chu, but I fear it is nearer 20%. Apologies. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littleblackfox at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 19:08:02 2001 From: littleblackfox at xxx.com (Jules Markham) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:08:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: black fox online Message-ID: Hello sinister folk, apologies for my e-silence, but I've been really busy with Samhain and stuff, and the new website! Yes, the black fox has gone online! It'll be updated monthly, and features the lovely paintings of sinisters own foxystrator- wow! So, if you're interested, it's www.theblackfox.co.uk 'till next time Jules _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Wed Oct 31 20:04:23 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:04:23 Subject: Sinister: send the pope to santa barbara! Message-ID: <181362560@spray.se> Dear sinisters, Today I´m truly feeling sinister. My friends are just such idiots. I decided with a friend that we were going to watch the movie Acid House (or what the hell it´s called) where Slow Graffiti appears, this friday. But now, it seems like all of my other friends just decided that they wanted to get drunk and throw up instead.What the hell?! I´m not in the mood for sitting at one of those things, being the only one not drinking (well, not enough to get drunk that is) and just sitting there and they´ll just be drunk and puke all over the place and laugh and listen to music that I don´t like. Soundtrack to my life is at this moment: Nice day for a sulk. But it´s just, seems like everyone always have these big expectations at every single weekend, and they think they´re so cool, when they´re not. I just want to be alone. Argh. I know I sound like a very boring and preppy girl, but I´m not, but I´m just so tired of being a teenager and all the things that you´re supposed to do, which maybe would be fun if it wasn´t something that you are supposed to be doing. I´m sorry, I´m just writing a bad post because I´m in a bad mood. Logically. I´ll dance around in my room now for a while. It might get me in a better mood. Kärlek (swedish for love), Astrid x p.s anyone heard the state of samuel they/he/it is so grate. I bought the ep send the pope to santa barbara, it´s absolutely fabolous. buy it! _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ny chatt på Spray! Fartyget M/S Spray har anlänt till http://www.spray.se/ohoj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 17:10:11 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:10:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I know where the Autumn Goes Message-ID: <20011031172118.CJPS19636.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.255.97.163]> It goes south, you know, the Autumn, that is. It likes to take its hols during the Winter but generally hangs around there for a while, it's a bit of a hippy, the Autumn is. I had a dream about Sinister. I was on the top of Primrose Hill, not in the park, but on the road next to it. All the Sinister people were at the bottom, and they all recognised me, even though I've never met them. They were waving at me, so I started Running towards them, but with every step I took, the hill got steeper, and steeper, until it was almost vertical. I then got really scared and tried to run up it, but fell down and backwards, but it was really high. Much higher than it looked, and I fell for ages, and ages. Until I hit something and woke up. I think this is because in my dreams, no-one has faces, or at least no-one I've not met does. I'm just not good enough at imagining them. It can be quite embarrassing this and dreams with other people in are always awkward. I just try to avoid them. The other dream I had was where Belle and Sebastian all get in the bath with me, like in "String Bean Jean". Yeah, I know the Jo is a girl in that song, but I quite liked that dream all the same. It's the only one I've ever had that directly involves B&S, not just various people who like them. I bought This Is Just A Modern Rock Song and Dog On Wheels. I love them both, although String Bean Jean is my favourite. I particularly like the bit at the beginning with the bass guitar. It sounds like a Bond movie soundtrack. I also love the way it says "Interminable Three Chord Break" in the sleevenotes to TIJAMRS. The Gate has become my favourite Isobel song. Peter Carter, I will buy "This is Desire" as soon as I have some more money, having blown it all on TIJAMRS and DOW (no, not the jones, obviously) I had some other stuff to say, but I've forgotten what it was, Joe OH YEAH! I remember! The picnic, the one on Primrose Hill. I WILL (unintentional pun) be there. I also demand that, as this is my first picnic, lots of people will also be there, And I don't care if you have to come from Sweden, Australia, or America. Or even further afield. I doubt it will have snowed, though. It never bloody snows in london. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 19:34:56 2001 From: lazylinepainterlikejane at xxx.com (Rachel oj) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:34:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i feel like i'm listening to skottish pop... Message-ID: ...and i kind of do. yes. as usual. well, anyway, hello! so, i finally got to my mother's flat in london. lovely, just lovely! i'm here on my own this time. a bit scary. i don't like flying by myself. there was a very creepy man sitting beside me!! he tried to talk to me all the time, during the flight... and i tried to listen to belle & sebastian, louder and louder, so i wouldn't hear him. he looked quite wierd too. i think he maybe wanted to kill me. yes. just like all the birds at home. THEY, if something, are unbelievable scary! really, they are! my mother's new boyfriend like belle & sebastian, by the way! i think i love him. or, well, no, i'll leave that to my mother, ur i do like him. really! and he's this really sweet indie-boy. ooh, so gorgeous! and, what i didn't know is thet my mother like.. loves belle & sebastian!! and i'm the happiest person alive. ok, that was a lie... but i could be, if that ex boyfriend of mine would stop beeing on my mind. he called me the other day. ooh. he's such a bastard! i don't like him anymore. at least... i wish i didn't. anyway... i'm going home tomorrow. it's been a nice couple of days here. i'm getting SO tired of all my friends back in norway! we decided, like a week ago, that we were going to meet up this friday, rent some movies and just stay home, chatting and so on. and what do they say when they call me? "oh.. hi, err.. well, you know this friday... well, we're like... invited to this really cool party, and we'd really like to go!... and, well, ofcourse.. if you want, you can come too, i'm sure that's ok. i just... well, i didn't think you'd want to.. cause... err.. well, hans is going to be there... you know... we can't stop hanging out with him, just because the two of you broke up..." and i'm like "what? fine! you go to that stupid party. ofcourse i won't go if he's there! idiot." ooh, i've got so lovely friends. well, Astrid, you're welcome to norway if you want to watch some movies with me this friday. oh, yeah! i got windows xp, last moday. it actoally talks!! with this wierd computervoice. it's dead scary! well, well, take care you lovely people! love, rachel o.j ps. i'll just cheer a bit for the grate rachels! R - is for Rules A - is for Awesome C - is for Crazy (?) E - is for Entertaining L - is for Lovely _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 19:57:56 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:57:56 EST Subject: Sinister: confessions of an unidentified Dr. Seuss character Message-ID: <16b.332559f.2911b1c5@aol.com> Hello my little sinestettes, Have you noticed how many posts begin with "I haven't posted in a long time, so I thought I'd say something" Well, this one is no different. Its been a while since I said anything, and, as much as I love all your posts, its the best when someone mentions me. If I say worthwhile things I might make it onto Rachel Frootloop's The Best Of Sinister letter! how lovely would that be. Also, there are a number of things I've been meaning to say.. Could someone give me a good definition of twee? Its a lovely word, but what does it mean? I want to use it, but I'm afraid I'd do so wrong. Where did it come from? is it a sinister thing? Today is halloween, a holiday which I adore. Yesterday my mum and brother and I carved some kickass pumpkins, the best we've ever done, and it made me very happy. Today I dressed up as Daisy Head Mayzie, a character from a lesser known Dr. Seuss book. (an extremely famous childrens author..no one I've met who's not american has heard of him. Have any of you?) I thought it was a very clever costume. I figured lots of people wouldn't be able to tell who I was, but once I told them they'd think it was really cute. But they had never heard of the book! irk! The principal and judge of the costume contest hadn't even heard of it...how can you call yourself an educator and not have read all the Dr. Suess books?!?! I was so discouraged that I took the daisy of my head. Now I just look a little unusually dressed. Seeing as I don't blend in anyway, due to my love of BRIGHT COLORS, It looks like I haven't even dressed up. I'm so sad. My dear Hye Min (fellow wee thing of sinsiter) dressed up as the Pocketbook Angel, isn't that cute? Talk about obscure, though. Nobody at boarding school will get that hunny. Did you have an experience like mine? Speaking of Belle and Sebastian, as I am supposed to do, I have decided that if they came to play new york, my life would be complete. I would be so happy that I could never be sad again. But they won't... Lots of talk of a Jr. Sinister club. That would be a lot of fun. I think I'm the very youngest sinister kid, seeing as I'm younger than Hye Min. Astrid's 15 too, though, aren't you? When's your birthday dearie? Anyone else I'm forgetting about. Well, thats all. I love you all very much, Rachel Grapenut +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mary_goodshoes at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 20:36:42 2001 From: mary_goodshoes at xxx.com (Marianna Longmire) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:36:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Time Out Message-ID: Evening y'all For those who are interested, Time Out have published a review of the new B+S single - and they like it! Aah, sweet Time Out, how I love thee. Ahem. Anyway here it is: Belle and Sebastian "I'm Waking Up to Us" Echoes of class French '60s pop in the orchestral arrangement of the lead track herald B&S's finest single for three years. All three songs are absolute winners, but today this writer plumps for the baroque autumnal positivism of 'I Love My Car' - if only for the line, ' I can even find it in my head to love Mike Love.' A shining Richard Madeley in a smelly pile of John Leslies. Thankyou and Goodnight! Marianna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From KOdle at xxx.org Wed Oct 31 22:01:11 2001 From: KOdle at xxx.org (Odle, Katharine) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:01:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: hopping ants & lollipops Message-ID: <51DF01F252F0D111B2550008C7F450540134570D@sdymail.ymca.org> Greetings, Fair Sinisterines! Halloween is shaping up to be a lovely day after all! It got off to a bit of a rocky start, as there was an earthquake at midnight. How's that for an omen? It was especially unnerving for me, as I live in a building that was built in the 1920s (terribly old for southern California). I heard all sorts of strange popping noises and creaking sounds, and my bed started shaking worse than a vibrating bed in a cheap motel. Not that I'm personally familiar with such a bed or anything, lest you get any ideas about my character. It did get me to thinking about earthquake codes & safety standards, and how probably such codes & standards were not part of most building contracts in the 1920s. Fortunately, it was a fairly mild earthquake, and no damage was done. Not even one of my collections of Pez dispensers or Virgin Mary candles fell over. Lucky me! Then I came to work this morning, and there was a little handful of plastic ants on my desk-- a Halloween treat from one of my nicer coworkers. The best part of the ants is that if you press down lightly on their back segment (thorax? my second-grade science knowledge is failing me at the moment) with your fingernail, they hop all across your desk! I had great fun hosting hopping contests between my ants for the first fifteen minutes of my day. Highly enjoyable. Next, another coworker passed out lollipops, which is a great treat at nine o'clock in the morning. After that, there was an announcement that our Executive Director was buying us all pizza for lunch. Hooray! All of these good things almost make up for the fact that, yet again, the office radio has been usurped by our resident Metal Head, and I have been subjected to all sorts of auditory horrors today. I would like to extend a general thank-you to all of you who have expressed such admiration and praise for various musical groups. I have "discovered" many nice bands as a result. Unfortunately, going to the local record shop can sometimes be a bit of a traumatic experience. The boys who work there (all boys-- not a single girl. strange.) seem to operate by the policy that unless a customer fits into the indefinable category of Cool Kid, they are not worthy of any sort of attention or assistance. I'm guessing that I don't meet their standards, because I often have to wait at the counter to buy my cds for many minutes before someone will eventually stop their conversation with another Cool Kid or get bored re-shelving records in an order that reflects their own personal taste and decide to ring me up. This past weekend, I had yet another of these traumatizing experiences. This time, I decided to listen to a few cds (Sinister suggestions) before purchasing, so I went to the counter to request to use the listening station. There is a big sign on the cd player that states that each customer may only listen to up to three cds per day, and for a time limit of 15 minutes. Only it's phrased in a rather threatening manner, and the "15 minutes" is in BOLD print, and in CAPITAL LETTERS, so you feel as though they are all timing you with synchronized watches, and have an intricate plan to inflict unimaginable pain and embarrassment upon the poor soul who listens to a cd for two seconds longer than the allotted time. I get so nervous, and keep checking my watch, and sometimes it's so bad that I can't even concentrate on the music that's playing, and I end up having to press "stop" and take out the cd, even though I've probably only listened to it for six-and-a-half minutes. This was basically the scenario that happened last Sunday, but with a twist. This time, when I tried to take out the cd, the machine decided it had other plans. The cd tray opened, but it was a five-cd changer, so it opened to slot three, instead of slot one where my cd was resting. So I closed it up again, and then pressed the open button in the hopes that my cd would come out. Well, this time it was open to slot five. So then I discovered a "skip disc" button, which moves the tray around while it is open so that you can change discs. Theoretically. This machine, however, decided that "skip disc" was actually a fun sort of game, in which it would rotate and spin with great amusement, and tease me by showing me every cd slot except slot one. It was a battle of wills, and mine clearly was not as strong as the one of the machine. (this might be a reason why I am on the Rachels team, and not the Wills. please don't hold this against me, Rachels! i promise i am more adept at my own cd player than the wicked one in the record shop!) Finally, I decided that force was necessary, since I was clearly not going to get my cd through skill, accident, or begging. Also, as I've said, the shop workers were otherwise engaged with far more important matters. So I was left with the only option of grabbing hold of the tray, and forcing it to do my bidding by spinning it to slot one. Finally, the cd was mine! This small victory was not to be celebrated, though, as I still had to stand there at the counter for an interminable time, waiting to be rung up. At last, my new cd and I went back to my apartment, where the cd found a much friendlier home. I hope you all are having spookily lovely days, and that each of you gets far more treats than tricks. Love & Hopping Ants, Katie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Wed Oct 31 22:17:10 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel fruitloop) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:17:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Kissing just for practice Message-ID: <20011031221710.69800.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> HI SINISTERINES! I know I just posted a monster of a post yesterday, but today's posts have urged me to post again. Especially Stacey Dahling's post. She wrote: "Am I the only one who thinks this B&S love connection club idea is a bad one? Sinister crushes are evil things, I have determined." I have been burned. The latest one not nearly as bad as the first. The first was years ago, and I got way too carried away in it. And he broke my heart. I nearly moved to Texas to be with him. I am so glad that I didn't. I actually met him whilst following Suede cross-country. he introduced me to the music of b&s and to Sinister. So, at least I was left with something grate. Since then, I have been more careful about how much of myself I give to internet romance. But I am a fan of list crushes despite the fact that I have been "list dumped" recently. I'll tell you why I'm still a fan... When you make a connection with another listee, it is a wonderful feeling to get their e-mails and read all of the sweet things they have to say. I love to feel adored. I love flirting with cute, funny and charming boys who share similar interests. I love letting myself get carried away in the fantasy. But I am trying very hard to keep in mind that the internet is a very sterile environment and that it is very easy to type things that you wouldn't normally say to someone. So, while you're reading the most gorgeous bit about your sparkling eyes and how much he'd like to take you in his arms and run through fields of heather with you, you have to know that he can't see your eyes. And if you tried to run, you'd have an asthma attack straight away because you don't excercise, you sit in front of a computer all day long. But I still love the idea of it. I still love the romance of it. And yes, you will come across people that will jerk you around, but you just have to try to keep perspective. Don't make any promises! Have fun with it! I like list crushes because they make me feel really good, for the most part. And when your crush has run it's course, there is always another lovely out there just *waiting* to exchange some kind words with you! I think predominantly the common thread is that we're hopeless romantics and we're all B&S fans! Having a list crush just makes my day seem a bit more lovely, just like hearing "The Stars of Track & Field" for the first time! I like to smile. I have crushes on a lot of you. But it takes me a while before I will actually send it in "official"-like. I pretty much have permanent list crushes on Ken Chu and Richard Gillanders, and of course Mr. Ryan, who is STILL in the nursery, so I practically have him all to myself, for now. But Mr. Ryan also lives near me, so it's a bit different because I get to see him in person and actually know him. But still. I'd consider him a crush. Also, I'd like to say that if I could, right now, I'd vote a list crush on Elise Spry, Kirsten Kenyon, and Stacey Dahling... They are the bees knees! I adore their personalities that come through in their posts even though they're girls, I'm an equal opportunity crusher! But like I said in my last post, I've got a fire in my heart for Mr. B, so you ladies will just have to wait until Ben moves on to his next crush before I get to you lot! So, watch out! ;) I may vote a "list crush" on you next! You're ALL so adorable! Especially YOU! I see you smiling over there! me love ya long time, Rachel fruitloop p.s. Boo! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david-a-simpson at xxx.net Wed Oct 31 22:20:27 2001 From: david-a-simpson at xxx.net (David Simpson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:20:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: mval/ballboy Message-ID: <008701c1625a$564dc300$8320383e@oemcomputer> Hi Everybody Just in case it slipped under your radar, I'm posting to tell you that Isobel Campbell appears on the new Mount Vernon Arts Lab LP The Seance At Hobs Lane; she plays viola on the song 'The Black Drop' and, er, that's all. She's very good on it. The LP's the usual MVAL sort of thing, sounding like music by and for Cybermen and Clangers. I love it to pieces, but maybe best to hear before buying. There's a web site: http://mval.topcities.com, with more information and possibly some downloadable sound clips. The LP doesn't seem to be on a label as such, but it's distributed in Britain (well, certainly in Scotland) by Cargo Distribution. Oh aye, while I'm in a recommending mood, go out and buy the LP club anthems 2001 by ballboy (they don't go in for capital letters much) because it's brilliant. Except don't bother if you have their three EPs because this collects them together with about two extra songs. If you're not familiar with them, they're a bit like Belle & Sebastian if Stuart David had taken over instead of forming Looper. Well, sort of. The LP's on SL Records (Lone 11); website is www.listen.to/ballboy. Hope everyone's keeping well David A +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+