From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 01:02:07 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:02:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Great Lakes Picnic- TOMORROW! Message-ID: Yes, that's right all you Great Lakes area Sinister people. The First Ever (to my knowledge) Great Lakes Sinister Picnic is being held tomorrow in South Bend, Indianna!!! So far I know of nearly ten of you that will be there, for any of the others who haven't spoken up, come join us!! I know there are quite a few of you out there, so come out to play, and talk, and quite probably drink. There may be some campgrounds areas still open near South Bend, so bring a sleeping bag if you want to stay over and drink with fellow Sinister peeps! The Instructions (reposted from my earlier post for any who missed them): Directions below provided by a fellow listee: It is called Leeper Park and it is just on the south side of the Saint Joseph river off of Business 31. Take US 31 south and turn right on either Riverside Drive or Park Lane, the first and second rights respectively. At the point where Park Lane deadends into N. Lafayette there is a tennis center and that would be a dandy place to meet up. People could even bring rackets if they fancied a game. Detailed neighborhood map: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn/twn-map_results&zoom_level=10&uid=u7563bubab.9c2lb:2lhrrngz1x&aphoto=0&SNVData=3mad3-h.fy%28w205y8_%29rzldu8%3bah7-%3d%5b2xu6_nlur%5dNDSQJN%2b%13AD%24%2bEB%10VV%2bPMWQ%24%2bK%11%24%2bF%15%28_%3d%3a%10F%3dw20h02_%29rzlqft_1.lq%286,qej%7cynbgmej,fwgf-d.mj72s-%5bub2u%3d2x9w%5dCJDWM%14%2bVBJ%40%2bFXGMP%2bVSRI%40%2bJW%40%2b%11E&pcat=&zlgif.x=1 Map of SB and the I-80/US 31 exchanges could be found by zooming out on this map Please check Yahoo maps or map quest if you have any further questions on how to get there, or contact me and I will relay your questions. Just to make it clear; we will be meeting up at the tennis center in Leeper Park. Look for me, I'll be driving a blue Achieva and wearing an orange Isobel & Fox B&S shirt. 5'7", short spikey hair and an idiot's grin with black rimmed glasses. See a piccy of me (as well as a few from B&S gigs) at: http://photos.yahoo.com/jgilmer2001 I won't be that hard to recognize. Anyone who wants to bring snacks, food, drink, whatever is welcomed and encourage. Musical instruments are also strongly encouraged (and if I could play it worth a damn I'd bring my 12-string) and anything/anyone else you'd like to bring is more than welcome. Any questions, comments, thoughts, spare change, et al, are more than welcome and appreciated. Drop me a line if you can make it or if you have questions. Hope to see you all there (at least all the Great Lakes people) Jim "Being clever's a fine thing, but sometimes a boy just has to get out and meet girls" - Grant Morrison _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From np101 at xxx.ca Sat Sep 1 04:51:38 2001 From: np101 at xxx.ca (Nicola Pezolet) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:51:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: This post is about a picnic in Quebec City Message-ID: To whom it may concern: My name is Nicola. Her name is Karolyne. I'm the Humanity. She's Milky. Allright... Us being introduced, we are posting (and abusing) this list to declare that we are holding a belle and sebastian picnic in our very own town of quebec city, PQ, canada... yes, we are canadians, by the way. any problem with that ? allrighty... sunday, 11:30 parc jeanne d'arc plaines d'abraham be there, if you want to meet us and realize how creepy we are! :) we are listening to pulp right now! until we meet again... nicola and karo xxx 1/2 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sat Sep 1 06:51:09 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: It is always raining inside the sea. In-Reply-To: <20010831185238.84278.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > home (home!) The second time, how was it pronounced? An urgent whisper, a hoarse croak, silently intoned? If it had been a friend's name, would your arm have fallen limp at your side before the coda? Or would you have waved even more frantically, a plastered grin, cowlick, raindrops (or tears) caught in your lashes? It is always raining inside me. '97-'98 was the winter of El Nino. It rains in winter here. The basement of Green Library flooded. The grad students volunteered to rescue the books. Penny organized them. I didn't help. All the lit books are down there, too. Denton Welch's books remained intact. But trudging to the library (to study!), shoes and socks soaked through beneath the desk for hours. How did we do it? Checking the paper for weather reports in Columbus, London, San Francisco. San Francisco is always colder than you would expect. In London two weeks of intense heat mid-July then back from Paris in mid-August and it was over. Over! Nothing like the way it plays out here. And in Columbus day and night without relief, the stifling heat, the humidity, the green tea shampoo I used that summer. But this summer I stayed indoors mostly, so I wouldn't know. > old Foxgloves song 'Chicken In A Bucket' Foxes and Chickens do not mix. Foxglove1 needs to work on his southern drawl. > the San Francisco picnic, in all its exotic improbability There was a meet up at Dalva in June of '99. I think five people attended. San Francisco is not exotic. It is homely. But I'll be looking for girls with flowers in their hair. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 15:28:54 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:28:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pigtails, Pre-Scala Plea , Picnic Message-ID: Pigtails... mmmm, pigtails! If I were a girl I'd definitely have pigtails. Maybe I should grow my hair and wear them anyway? Pre-Scala Plea... I know its short notice but is anyone meeting up anywhere before the Scala gig tonight? If so mail me off list, I'll check later. If not, see you in there. Picnic... OK, the MANCHESTER PICNIC: I'm going to have to be a bad parent. Everyone (that being Peter, Lucy and Cay so far!)wants the picnic in the next three weeks. Which is not good for me as this month is manic for me [moving house and job and maybe having to go to Newcastle one weekend, oh and hopefully having a visitor too :)] So I'll help organise it, 'cos I'm nice like that, but I prolly won't be there. This time at least. (sketcher sobs) But how about Sat 22nd September? Meet at 2pm - venue to be confirmed (I say by the petting zoo in Heaton Park, being twee and all, but it's a bit out of town?) Going on to Smile (fab little indie club) that night (via Corbieres and Fab Cafe?) Can someone up there (photojenny I nominate you!) phone the Star and Garter and check Smile's on that night? Ta. Anyone who fancies coming to a Manchester picnic in the next few weeks should mail me their requests asap and I'll post the definitive playing out list soon. Right that ought to do it? PeetSketchSteve "Don't ask me how it is that I like you; I just might do..." (SA) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sat Sep 1 18:46:08 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 18:46:08 Subject: Sinister: feeling good. Message-ID: <153437122@spray.se> Hi there! I´ve had the BEST day! Loads of sweet boys have been flirting with me when I was out walking the streets of Stockholm, I felt really pretty, hee hee. I´ve taken a poster from a wall as well. It´s text says "Matti is a real artist!". It´s dead weird but It´s gorgeous. I bought my first vinyl 7" today, it was by a group called Florian. They were supposed to sound a bit like belle and sebastian. My ass they did! They were not good at all. Oh, but it was cheap. I bought a fanzine as well. A number of "Country Living" for my mum for her borithday, and a Calvin & Hobbes-album for my big sister Hedvig who loves them. I was feeling really down last night, cause I miss Tom a lot, but then, he´ll be home soon,and his postcard was dead sweet. At one of the big place´s in Stockholm there was really really old people dancing squaredance today! It was so funny, they were really sweet. It´s cloudy right now, but It´s just cosy. Another excuse for staying in. I´m no big fan of being outdoors, I admit that. Since I´ve got nothing more to write.. luv to you all, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 01:33:53 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 17:33:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: she's trying to flag down an aeroplane Message-ID: <00cb01c1334e$70092e00$3079073e@aqlzosqt> i no longer trust technology. not only does it allow the likes of robin and big stu to portray me as a transexual femme (or homme) fatale, but it has also stopped me receving email from one account since june. and i only realised on thursday. so if anyone has tried to mail me at archel at iname.com or has sent anything to buzzwords and got no response, that's why. it's working again now though. though not feeling creative enough myself to take part, i reckon that the case of the runaway thread is the best thing to happen to sinister since... well, since astrid. who is a star. there's something indescribably endearing about a 15-year-old swede posting expressions such as 'sod it'. tigermilking was fab last week, though at the same time reminiscent of apocalypse now due to the sweltering temperature, crazed mutterings and dark shapes moving ominously across the sweaty trotwood. my friend nicola seems undamaged (so far) by her first sinister experience, and we received 5-star hospitality at greenwich's most exclusive building site - thanks guys :) in other news, i'm off to croatia in a couple of weeks to get some sunshine (although after working in a language school for 6 months i'm not sure i can cope with any more strange foreign ways) but before i go i should have time to do some long-overdue work on buzzwords, so if anyone has any new poems, stories or reviews, get them in to me now on buzzwords at bigfoot.com. and now let us have a moment's silence for robin stout and owen lowery. their sins were scarlet but their posts were read. luv archel xxx *************************************** Rachel Playforth 'She may not be famous, but she's right' - Homer Simpson For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Sep 1 19:25:56 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 19:25:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Red Knicker Day Photos! Message-ID: <20010901182556.38257.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Fans of long downloads and those with fast connections will be pleased to know that there are some big old pictures of the Regents Park Sini-Birthday picnic/Tigermilking at my site here: http://robster75.tripod.com/sinister.html Being completely devoid of wit I've failed to caption or annotate any of them. If you can think of any suitable titles, mail me off-list and I will plonk the best ones on the site. Think of it as a kind of competition. The kind without prizes. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 20:01:24 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 15:01:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: Manchester Pic-a-nic Message-ID: <72.f3f9929.28c28a84@aol.com> Ok boys and girls, seeing as I've been appointed picnic mummy by the lovely PeetsketchSteve...it's about time I started sorting things out. Is the 15th of September cool for everyone? And where is the best place for everyone who wants to go to get to? I'm going to be all democratic about this and let everybody recommend a place and then we can decide where would be the nicest (and the most obtainable!) place to get to. I'm very much in favour of Platt Fields Park in Fallowfield as that is where I used to go when I was wee and they have a nice lake there just made for picnics. Granted, they have a lot of flashers too...but I suppose that just comes with the terrain :-) I'm going to Smile tonight anyway, so I can see if it will still be on the day of the picnic so we can go there afterwards (I don't see why it shouldn't be on!) If you want to email me with suggestions or offers of help and smiles (always appreciated!) that would be lovely. And if you ever see me in the street, I'm the mod-looking one with short black hair and a dreamy look on her face. Do say Hello :-) Love and Picnic baskets Cay xXx "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go, Now Pickled Onion Monster Munch? They're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 20:22:55 2001 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:22:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: glasgow, etc Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I hardly ever post, and actually, I hate to admit it, but I haven't really been reading much lately. Everything is turning out serendipitously (sp?) really. I'm leaving for Scotland in 3 weeks exactly, and my one of my favorite bands is playing just a week before I leave. (Yes I'm talking about Belle and Sebastian.) Yay! I also got to see two other of my favorite bands this summer, radiohead, and what used to be cap'n jazz, and is now called owls. Their new album is amazing. I think for the next two weeks, I'm going to see how few times I can mention in conversation that I'm going to Scotland. It's really hard, because every time I see someone I know, like at work or school, they invariable say "hey, what's up?" and what am I supposed to say? That I'm not packing my stuff to leave this stinky town (and country) for a couple months? Portland is such a drag lately anyway. It's so small that the local alt weekly paper can't find anything better to write about than a bunch of alcoholics who hold weekly soapbox derby races in a local park. How boring. This is when I start thinking it might be productive to have a major league sports team in Portland so they would have something to do other than sit in their basements together, getting drunk and gnawing on beef jerky. Enough cynical b.s. I'm leaving the country! As Truman Capote would have said "I'm beside myself!" Your friend, hopefully, andrea http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 22:39:53 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:39:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a large fortune must be in want of a wife. duh. Message-ID: <20010901213953.76399.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> I don't half enjoy the P F posts. it's more than a half. I think my enjoyment is rooted in the fact that I don't understand half of them. it's less than a half. before. I've thought about knowing who [some of] the people are that get referred to and what they think. then I think that I might enjoy the reading less if I did. so I'm glad I don't. oh. but maybe I'd enjoy the reading more if I did. know. hm. still: fun. I destroyed one of those personal organisers at a party last night. an electronic one. I've never been organised. personally. or electronically. and I said something else too. there was a reason for the destruction. I don't doubt. but I was too scared to ask. I got kinda drunk. I think I might have acted in a funny way. I got back to my brother's flat and he said I was trying to explain things and I dropped my irn-bru and I kept not finishing sentences. even though I had started. them. and I demanded to see 'the big lebowski'. and this morning. I had no hangover. and sat in traffic for an hour. singing. and remembering talking about a lyric that said 'holland-dozier-holland'. I wish I could know what I'm like when I'm drunk. I don't think recording myself being drunk is a good idea. though. I think I might be a bit scary. because that's what happens. isn't it? but I had fun. even if I acted silly. and maybe I didn't really act silly. but I was really drunk. they said my wine was oaky. I didn't think it was bad either. I had some fun stories to tell you about fun. not real fun. but. I left it too long and I forgot. I told some people. though. so. there were even bits that related to belle and sebastian. hm. here comes some sort of attention grabbing heading. _________________________________________ E D I N B U R G H P I C N I C - update. _________________________________________ I'm updating. even though 'rouss' gordon just posted about it. I had talked to people. and I've talked to gordon. and we're reconsidering. I think we're going to remove the bowling and replace it with somewhere where there's grass. whrwhrthr. so. the only risk, of course, is of rain. some said 'holyrood park'. and I think that's fine. as long as we have a place that's near a place where there's shelter of sorts. and then a pub on the high street. and if it's raining when we arrive. well. we can go to a big pub on rose street. I can phone ahead and ask if we'd be allowed to eat our picnic stuffs there. they might let us. gordon also suggested that a shift might work. if we just shifted the whole thing to kelvingrove park. it really doesn't matter to me. it really doesn't matter at all. because. of where I am. but some people might not be happy. and some people might be happier. maybe those people. or you people. should mail me. or mail gordon. and state yer preferred VENUE. or something. will suggested I should take over. he was eating a bounty. and we decided that mutiny is no good. so I chatted to gordon. and he wanted me to take over. the organising. but I smashed up my personal organiser last night. I'm no kind of organiser. it's up in the air. what's the date? okay. so it's supposed to be two weeks today. give me some of the feedback and we'll sort it all out. thanks. it is the fifteenth. enough, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Sat Sep 1 22:52:37 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:52:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I know we've been as far apart as this before, but take a look at what we've got to get through Message-ID: <005801c13330$6aedca20$558d87d9@fsnet.co.uk> I toyed with writing this post in several orders, but finally decided that cronological was all that the first year of my degree level creative writing course would allow me. As such, this story is probably a little muddled (to say the least).; So, those of you at the picnic will notice that I had thewonderouskara* in England over the last week. Much fun was had during that time, but on Friday she had to leave. One Thursday night she cried, and before long I was crying too. On Friday morning she cried a lot, and our train journey was punctuated by crying, kissing and rapton/t-rex impressions. We got to Gatwick, after about 6 hours journey (I live in't north), and I finally left her balling her eyes out as she went through the departures gate. 5 minutes later I realised I still had her hand luggage. I went to reception, they put a call out for Kara and, after much waiting round, they asked me to go to the US Airways ticket desk, so that someone could take the bag to her. The guy at the desk said "Are you the guy with his wife's luggage?", to which I replied "Girlfriend, yes", but I found the assumption a little confusing, only being 19. While I was waiting to hand the bag over, I heard a rather odd conversation coming from three people behind me. The notable bits went something like this... "I think we should move over there" "No, we're behind a screen, they can't see us" "Why don't we just move in now?" "No just hold on. If they go through Departures we'll follow them there anyway." "Can you see what flight they're getting on?" "[Something incomprehensible, but sounding questioning]" "I can't see if they've checked their bags in... I think they're moving now *short pause, then walk off*" I tried to make sure I was out of the line of fire on that one, but it wasn't easy without looking suspicious. After that little drama, a guy came and took away Kara's bag, and I left the airport for home. On the train home, I recieved a phonecall from Kara saying the plane had been cancelled and asked me what to do. I wasn't entirely sure on the best course of action, so I told her she could probably get a train back up to my house if she wanted, though it'd be a long journey. I then phoned my parents and asked them what Kara should do, and they said she'd have to get a hotel for the night and take the plane in the morning. I told Kara this, but she wasn't happy, so I told her I didn't really know what she should do, and she should really phone my mother and sort it out with her. Apon hearing Kara's sobs, my mum couldn't help but tell Kara to get on the next train. My mum then told me to wait at Preston station (the first station stop to get to my house) for Kara. I arrived in Preston at 7 p.m., and after an hour and a half of waiting at Preston station, it was announced that the lights were no longer functioning and they would have to close the station. It was about an hour in the freezing cold before they got the lights back on. I waited until 11.30 p.m., calling my parents on reverse charges and annoying them every half and hour or so, asking when Kara would likely arrive and so forth. At 11.50, the last train roled in, and Kara wasn't on it. I panicked and rang my parents, who said they would ring the transport police. I turned around, and, emerging from an unannounced train, from a platform that a guy on the station had closed for the night, came Kara, weilding her incredibly heavy bags, with a quizical look on her face, and prettier than I think I've ever seen her before. I ran towards her and, when I got to her, nearly crushed her. We got a taxi home for £30 and that night I feel asleep on the sofa, before being moved to my bed. This morning I saw her off at Manchester Airport (her dad got the tickets changed she she wouldn't have to travel all the way to Gatwick again) and it felt strange, like she'd already gone before, but now I was saying goodbye to someone else. I got home and looked in my room to find all her stuff had gone from my floor, and I felt pretty lost. I looked for the Zebra I have to remind me of her (we both bought each other a toy zebra, mine is called Zebediah, and Kara's in Zelda), but I can't find them, I'm going to turn the house upside down in a second... I think maybe Kara packed it by accident... Apologies if there are errors in this, I'm pretty tired at the moment. "If I were broke, I would rather spend money on my appearance than on food" - Sherron Mayes www.bondynet.demon.co.uk/eurosexuals Peter p.s. Hello to everyone at the picnic, I had a fantanstic time, despite nearly dying after the football match. Very hello to everyone I met there, and to everyone I was re-united with. Very very hello to Sir Kenneth of Chu for agreeing to adopt Kara, all we need now is a twee chaplain to marry us in the eyes of Sinister and she's sorted for living in Inkland. p.p.s. Will Lucy Alder mail me off list about the various music related matters we discussed, because I don't have your e-mail stored on this computer. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From explodinboy at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 00:46:33 2001 From: explodinboy at xxx.com (tim plumley) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Two B&S tickets for the 6th!!! Message-ID: <20010901234633.32683.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> I have two extra tickets for the thursday night show at the wiltern theatre. tickets are general admission, so you can be right next to isobeland stuart. asking face value. email for more info. first one gets them. take care. -tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Sep 1 23:56:59 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 23:56:59 Subject: Sinister: Michael Owen is a god Message-ID: Compare this subject line with a post of mine from May this year: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200105/msg00135.html Hello, by the way Please indulge me, if you will, for a few lines. Tonight I was witness to an event I will remember for the rest of my life. Some people ask "Where were you when JFK was shot/Diana died?", but I have a suspicion that many English boys and girls of our generation will ask "Where were you when ENGLAND BEAT GERMANY 5-1 IN MUNICH?", and I will remember every glorious minute* for a long time to come. I decided earlier on not to post about this, because it's a bit, well, **off-topic**, but heck, I just have. And it does have a link to B&S, since both football and B&S have an inexplicable way of making me ridiculously happy, given the right siutation of course. A joyous event it was, without a doubt. Not being one, however, to submit a single-issue post, I'll now quote/refer: Somebody was posting about their addiction to girls named Kate, and I smiled wryly, for I have the same addiction, and assumed that it was just a coincidence. My Kate thing extends to people called Catherine too. I think I've had **obsessions** with five of them, goddammit. It's scary, I tell you. To make it sound less scary though I've thought of a friendlier word than 'obsession'. See, a friend of mine was reading an Edgar Alan Poe short story about a guy was described as having 'monomania' - intense fixations about one particular thing. You get the picture. It sounds like a medical condition, which allows me to abdicate responsibility slightly, I suppose. Is it possible to have lots of concurrent monomanias? Or d'you think that's polymania? Hmmm... Rob's photos of the London picnic were lovely. I do love a well-taken monotone picture. The other pictures of his on his site are nice too. They're better than the ones that I took of B&S and Jarvis at Benicassim. Peter Carter's airport exploits sound terribly exciting. Personally, I think it was something to do with the boy Carter himself. No one with a haircut **that rebellious** could expect to be anonymous to the mob, surely. Then again, Chu's haircut was similar, and he's thought to **run** the mob. The mind boggles... The new Bjork record is strange. I'm slowly getting into it. I 'get' about half of it at the moment. The new Mercury Rev, however, is totally gorgeous. If it had a form (other than a small silvery disc/large black disc, duh) it would be a huge, incredibly soft cushion which you could just sink into and embrace, apart from a couple of tracks which would just be big dark brooding forests. I think that's about it. To the supporters of whoever's playing Liverpool on Saturday: love and pity, To the rest of you: just plain love (ain't that enough?), Asm.x P.S. MIGMK is being strangely silent over my list of 90s songwriters. Why could this be? *which obviously doesn't include the first six, where we played like a pub side. ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 03:23:28 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 03:23:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Waiting for the spoon to rise Message-ID: <004901c13356$4414c360$d298beac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Things have been fun recently, I have finally gotten a bit of band practice type thing together and it was much much fun, even if my mum is downstairs making things slightly embarrassing. I had a job, then a phone call from the Job Agency later I lost the job before I started it, which was nice, but the job agency found me another job instead, so hopefully I will actually start working on Monday, and heaven knows I'm not that miserable at the moment.. (I think the lyrics went something like that) Yes I watched the England vs Germany football game too, well done Hong Kong! You've remained undefeated once again! :-) Watching a football match supporting a totally uninvolved team is fun. What else happened in my life, um not much. I don't really know what I want to write about. When I started typing I was going to type a post about giving my girl hot loving, but then I remembered that I'm single, ho hum. :-( Um.. except that.. tree, of course, that I .. shagged.. um..no.. wait, that wasn't me! Despite you catching me on camera, and seeing the marks on my shoulder, and hearing the noises getting louder, etc. It wasn't me! Damn attractive guy tho http://robster75.tripod.com/redpant4.jpg Oh yes, and Dr Jenni Quincy herself.. um I'll pay for the lifetime supply of Red Bull that young Pika consumes then.. Love children and Red Bull Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 06:37:18 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: hello hello i don't know why you say goodbye i say hello Message-ID: <19896157.999409038012.JavaMail.imail@tiptoe> tonight the world showed itself to me and i couldn't bear to look at it with both eyes open. so i made wishes instead. the day started out fine enough. i made sure all the lights in my apartment, or flat, of you will, were turned off and i came home. home home with my parents. for the holiday weekend. the afternoon was fine. shopping. worth skipping description. today also happened to be my friend tara's 25th birthday. so i went out with her tonight. and that's the story i'll tell. we went to a dinner theater, where you eat a pre-ordered meal of dry, sagey chicken and watch local actors cavort around. we saw pirates of penzance. before the show, tara, like a lot of sinisterites (myself included), was telling me how lonely she is. (is this topic over? well. maybe. so just skip to ken's latest if you're tired. i would.) anyway, tara telling me how now that she's 25 and still a virgin she doesn't want to be that anymore. how she wants to be 'found' so she can be a pair instead of one. how she's called this 20-year-old pot-smoking maintenance boy several to ten times in the last few days for a date. what should she do? should she settle? etc. etc. and i, being the girl i am, told her what girls like me should say in that sort of situation. love yourself. don't settle for anything less than yourself. don't sleep with someone just to do the deed and later try to make it mean something it never will. i always end up being the love confidant. and the first wish i made was to be the love confider. after the show we stopped at a coffee shop (after i dissuaded tara from driving by pot-smoker's house for a look-see). her sister called and while they were chatting i read some sinister posts at a web table and blew bubbles with my chewing gum. and i wished i could be going to a picnic. (maybe this sentence can count for content. go b&s.) tara got off the phone and again started up the alone vs. not alone convo. and then just drifted off. so we sat there looking at each other in an icky silence i could no longer fill with trite advice or a false but most likely true sense of sympathetic comradeship. and when i got in my car to go home and took my handicapped parking permit off the rearview mirror and waited for a homeless woman to cross the street, i wished tara could see just how big and how good she is all on her own. without a boy or me or anyone else. and then i wished the same for myself. because of that homeless woman in the street. because of my editor who is waiting for the test results on the lump she found in her breast to come back. because of me and the fact that i may very well one day, after all the coating on my nerves has deteriorated, become so crippled i'll know what life looks like from a sitting position. because of all the people fighting fights they'll never win, and shouldn't have to fight in the first place. and i drove and the sigur ros in the cd player crescendoed. and then i couldn't see the road any more. because i was crying. because something so beautiful as that music or tara's heart or my life should have to be poked and prodded and measured by increments of sound and sight and smell and taste and touch. that we feel compelled to mold our lives into something we wish they could be, instead of what they really are. i once wrote to will salt about a skirt of mine. a black skirt with a row of pleats at the bottom. and i told him how the pleats ripple as i walk, and how i love the heavy flowing feeling of the circle around my knees. and how life should be like the circle of pleats. neatly pressed overlapping moments that make a really lovely ripple, i think i said. so tonight i wish i knew how to fit yesterday and today and tonight and tomorrow into my ripple of pleats. i wish i wish i wish i wish i i think i can, i think i can, they tell you to say. i think i left my skirt in my apartment. thanks for reading my diatribes. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trentisgreat at xxx.au Sun Sep 2 11:44:58 2001 From: trentisgreat at xxx.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rachael?=) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:44:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: first post Message-ID: <20010902104458.47874.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> hello there. well this is my first post, and i must admit, im quite nervous. ive been out of the nursery since about january, but ive enjoyed just reading all your messages, and haven't felt the need to say anything. sinister has become quite special to me, as i recieve the daily digest, and its something nice to come home to after work, or read when stressed. anyway, i suppose i should introduce myself. im rachael, almost 19, from melbourne, australia. (i'm moving to manchester in november, though) we often have belle and sebastian nights at a club in the city, but i never go as i don't want to go alone. i discovered the band about 3 years ago, i remember what attracted me to them first was that they shared my dog's namesake. i named my dog Belle when i was 6. i was obsessed with the Belle and Sebastian cartoon that was on in the morning before school. anyway, i think that's enough for now. just one thing i'd like to add - i love writing letters, and if anyone would like to become penpals, please email me offlist. thankyou. love rachael xxxx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 14:07:28 2001 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Hai. or hello, if norwegian isn't the language of choice. Message-ID: <20010902130728.42030.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> the number of times i've apologised for not speaking any norwegian befuddles the mind. Well, i'm almost home. i hate the british. Especially football fans. I pretend I'm interested, just to appease dad. Or he'd be disappointed that none of his sons turned out ok. ha ha, i assume he knows that about me already... I made jokes about the rioting - "oh, that's the pre-match rioting, you can tell by the formation". ho ho ho, i'm sure the celebration riots were better. Lots of posts have compelled me to echo sentiments. How to disappear completely at Oxford was my highlight. It was the 2nd encore, and by that time i was wet, my cardy had leaked green dye over my clearlake t-shirt and i was cold. I thought they'd abandoned the song when it started playing. it's one of my fuzzy songs. and it sounds like Vangelis, one of my early favourite artists (cf Blade Runner OST). DDR is fantastic. isn't it ironic, i can put the combinations together when they're on a screen, but i can't walk in a straight line down a street. the product of the MTV generation... My phrase is "I dance like Mick Cooke" after seeing them in Cardiff. and i do. maybe worse. i can't wait to go to edinburgh. maybe i'll get invited to picnics. the South west UK and norway are suspiciously devoid of B&S fans. I bought a rainbow scarf to go with my mittens. I love rainbows almost as much as traffic lights. red, amber and green...mmm...i had traffy loites (say in somerset accent) cakes till my 4th birthday. And i missed the beta band at the pilton party. apparently, they were good. Ah well. Who's going to the new order gig on October 12th? Will Mr Billy Corgan play with them? Would anyone be able to offer me a place to sleep? I can sleep standing up if it helps. Are these and any questions answerable? who knows... I know cliff richard likes traffy loites, Love Niko xxx Oh, plus i need a ticket. Schmoe. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 14:37:08 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:37:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 3.. 6.. 9.. Seconds Of Light Message-ID: <000001c133b4$60f6c740$db4f7ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, "a singer-songwriter's day is spent avoiding his so-called occupation" Poking round the Belle And Sebastian band site ( http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ , as if you didn't know) today I noticed that Messrs Murdoch & Cooke have updated their pages in the (00's) Who section. Mick's decription of his first teen band is so funny I can't decide whether its rilly true or not, Stuart's is the story that he says should have gone on the Seconds of Light ep cover. I find new words for my vocabulary: I guess I can figure out what "bentshot" means, but "clatty"? Someone please define. BTW, I loved his previous entry, about his musical experiences in primary school, did anyone save it & if so would they please send me a copy? Thanks. Oh, I think its about time that the Photos page was up dated. Please can we have some of the polaroids that Sarah took onstage at Ipswich, especially during the Jilted John or Queen covers :) David Simpson mentioned The Bill Wells Trio. The video clip (if you can call 36 minutes a clip) with Bill, Stevie & Robert Henderson (?) can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/edinburgh/ram/edmixingit.ram Thanks to Geneviève for Reporting Back and so descriptively as well on her (preliminary, I hope) expedition to the old country. I started to freeze too on the deck of that ferry to Arran. Did you really go so far as to invite 1452 of us almost complete strangers over to Canada to visit, ice skate and eat Beaver Tails? And how do you enforce a line break in plain text, anyway? :) She also marked Struan's birthday & I don't think it would be fair not to mention the others' as well. I can't remember the soutrce of this, but here goes anyway: Stevie Jackson 16th January 1969 Sarah Martin 12th February 1974 Isobel Campbell 27th April 1976 Richard Colburn 25th July 1970 Stuart Murdoch 25th August 1968 Chris Geddes 2nd October 1975 Mick Cooke 15th December 1973 Stuart David 26th December 1969 Thanks also to Archel for marking the passing of Robin & Owen. I hope they return one day. YELLOW SUBMARINE Youn wrote: >> home (home!) >The second time, how was it pronounced? (I guess), for the pleasure of savouring the word and the feeling again, with a mixture of satisfaction, almost surprise, even triumph after such a long time of not being in a position to use the word truthfully. >It is always raining inside me. There's a future for you as a indie soft-pop lyricist, I reckon. >> old Foxgloves song 'Chicken In A Bucket' >Foxes and Chickens do not mix. Foxglove1 needs to work on his southern drawl. A prototype for material being prepared for the twilight of the Foxgloves career on the chicken in a basket circuit methinks. BTW, Foxgloves 1 & 2 both live South of the river. On Segundosdeluz Luis Enrique Reports that there are a review & photos of B&S @ Benicassim in Rolling Stone. A quick trip to WH Smith tomorrow I reckon. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 15:47:34 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 07:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Oh, my goodness Message-ID: <20010902144734.35397.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> There is still much to be said about the astonishing events of yesterday. Possibly some of it will even be said. But before all that, it's necessary to talk about shock and sadness. Brian Moore has died at a mere 69. He didn't even get to see England's finest hour (I suppose that means the last 60 minutes). Today Barry Davies came on the BBC in white trousers and black blazer and spoke of Brian and his love for the language like a man who knew the language inside out himself. He hardly needed 'questions' - he simply talked, but not rambling off like every other sausage in the world of sport - no, Barry simply told us what he had to say about this man who had died. "A nice guy... a very genuine fellow... a great broadcaster... and I emphasize the word *broadcaster*". This, if anything, was what television was for. There follows a page's silence in memory of a Gillingham fan. As he used to say himself, when he was anchoring The Big Match: Bye-bye. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremy at xxx.au Sun Sep 2 16:08:46 2001 From: jeremy at xxx.au (Jeremy Tweddle) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:08:46 +0800 Subject: Sinister: give quiche a chance Message-ID: <001901c133c1$2aaa67c0$6f64a8ca@byways> Hello all, Well, that lovely time has come for me to bid farewell to Perth, Aus and embark on a far more exciting sofa bed tour of the UK. As Gordon kindly mentioned there's a picnic happening on the 15th September and you're all cordially invited (back to mine as it were). As for those of you that can't (or won't) make it to Edinburgh on the 15th, I'm now giving you the chance to cash in on the breamy craze. I'll be gracing your shores from the 10th September onwards and in Edinburgh til mid October sometime. For those that want the honour and privilege of meeting a real live Australian boy (because we all know they're a rarity all throughout the UK), then I'll see what I can do and pencil you in. At this point I drop the pretence that any of you will be wanting to meet me, and just get down to the hardcore begging and pleading. *begs and pleads* If anyone would like to meet up for a drink ANYWHERE or have a sofa that needs some company for an evening, email me off list and I'll look into seeing my way to your neck of the woods. And anybody interested in catching the luckies at Leeds or Bath (or both) let me know, because I WILL be there, and friendly faces would be an added bonus. Sorry to sound like a berk, I'm not really helping my cause here am I? Jeremy ps. Big hugs, kisses and general thanks to Helen (the soon to be sole remaining Perth sinisterine). There's still time to get in my luggage, you've just got to get down to 20kg and 90cm tall. Easy enough? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Sun Sep 2 17:21:01 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:21:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peter Carter, you are a genius Message-ID: <004201c133cb$42b32960$d77f893e@chris> GENIAL I have been on sinister since late '97 and I've seen some wonderful wonderful posts, but today, Peter Carter was the first to move me to tears. I'm in a pretty weird mood this morning which might have something to do with it. My face is red hot and I'm falling asleep at the keyboard, but sinister has once again made me smile. BLUE PHOTOS FROM RED KNOCKER DAY Sorry, that was actually meant to say knicker, but it looks good as it is. Props to Robster for some great photos. I can't think of many captions, but the prize for most ridiculous face pulling should be split between Carsmile and James. Apps wins the prize for looking like a young Mathew Pinsent. I am pleased to be the dominant member of one photo, although Trousers' specs sort of steal the show. TARA'S I was amused to see that more than one Tara had a birthday yesterday. It was the anniversary of our very own Feather Boa, so many happy returns. I was going to write a comparison thing between FB and lindsey's friend Tara, but then I saw that lindsey's Tara is a virgin and I didn't know what to do. ASM WALTON The reason I'm being so quiet on the 90's songwriter front is because I didn't want to embarrass you, but, for the record, this was young Sam's list 1. Williams/Chambers 2. Halliwell 3. Vengaboys 4. Pinky/Perky 5. Chaz/Dave The Pine Fox will be impressed. ANSWERS TO READERS QUESTIONS I have noticed that people have a lot of unanswered questions on this list, so I thought I'd have a go at answering them. - Adam uni - No - PeetsketchSteve - Maybe you should, but they can get caught in ventilation shafts - PhotoJenni - Yes I have That's enough for now. Chris Jones. P.S. Thank you Mark for your help. Unfortunately all my immaculate planning was in vain, Oh well, when's the next plane to Poland... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sun Sep 2 17:30:16 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: There's no future for me in this town. In-Reply-To: <000001c133b4$60f6c740$db4f7ad5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Sorry - two points of clarification. > It is always raining inside the sea. > [...] > It is always raining inside me. These lines are from a poem called 'Instructions For Living' by Dean Young. > old Foxgloves song 'Chicken In A Bucket' > > Foxglove1 needs to work on his southern drawl. My comment was based upon a cover of 'A Chicken With Its Head Cut Off'. Does 'Chicken In A Bucket' also feature a singer with a southern drawl? The same one? Kate and Anna McGarrigle have a fantastic song about Southern Boys. But I guess it only applies, if at all, if even in part, south of the Mason Dixon line. Hooray for sulky waitress friends! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 20:37:09 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:37:09 -0700 Subject: Sinister: "DDR= Don't Do it, Rinaldo" or "Randy Newman gets it right" Message-ID: A while back someone was talking about what voice they heard when they read posts. You're free, of course, to choose any voice you wish for me when you read this, but, if you'd like to hear my voice in your head as it sounds right now in real life, it sounds something like this: it is hoarse, deep and sticky from overindulgence, overuse and lack of rest, marked by a slight California dude accent (like Keanu Reeves turned down a bit), and interrupted by the occasional moan. This post is part love letter and part whingefest (and you can bet it's gonna be a rambler). Oh, I do love to complain. Right at the top of things to complain about is the terrible pain I am in. Nipping at its heels in the second position is my past night's inability to sleep. But I don't think the pain has anything to worry about. I have a feeling that this is a chart topper with legs. We could be looking at an historic reign at number one for this pain. Insert moan. I reinjured myself last night. Sprained my ankle something awful in May, crutches, air brace, vicodin (it wasn't all bad), the whole shebang. Anyhoo, I was making a fine recovery until last night when I took a bad step on some uneven ground and gave it a really good twist. Really good. Now I'm just waiting for mumsy to come back from the store with Dr. Pepper and ibuprofen. This is, I think, all I can look forward to today. But, you may be asking, as Heart once did, "what about love?" Yes, the love I mentioned. Well, I fell in love last night, again, for the first time. We had a glorious night. Nothing extraordinary mind you. To hear me describe it you might think it sounds quite an average evening. But it was perfect because we shared it. I am just about as smitten as can be right now with this city. Oh, sorry. Did you think I was talking about a person? No, L.A. is my lady. Every time I come back here she opens herself up to me a little more and she only becomes more beautiful. I remember, growing up down here, being taught in grade school about the different types of climates that exist in the world. They told me that coastal Southern California has a 'mediterranean' climate. Maybe you've seen the Olive Garden commercial where the old Italian women steal the old men's clothes while they are swimming. This prank is supposed to illustrate the sense of fun and passion for life that people in that region have which, the advertisers would have you believe, you can experience to some degree when you eat at the Olive Garden. Now, if by passion for life you mean breadsticks your dog couldn't chew through and by sense of fun you mean wine that will unstop your sink then yeah, that's what you'll get at the Olive Garden. But other than that, I think the commercial speaks the truth. I've traveled a bit and I would say that that people of the Mediterranean do seem to be more open and fun loving than others. Last night it seemed to me that L.A. might share more than a climate with these peoples. I was at the Farmer's Market for karaoke last night and the joie d' vivre on display was just staggering. Someone sang Randy Newman's "I Love L.A.", a brilliant song incidentally, and when it came time for the call and response at the end everyone was screaming "we love it!" and we meant it. A woman who had to be 65 if she was a day sang "I've got the music in me" followed by a vato type guy singing Buster Poindexter's "Hot! Hot! Hot!" which generated a conga line. A mulleted dude in an Iron Maiden shirt sang "Shiny Happy People" sans irony. And this was a party for everybody. Eight to eighty-eight. Every color you can imagine. Everybody shaking what the lord gave 'em. I had signed up to sing "Baba O'Riley" and was a little worried because not many people were really doing rock n' roll. But I got up, gave it my all, and their cheers were as warm and sincere as a mother's love. It was glorious. It was upon leaving the market that my ankle and the asphalt conspired together to cut my night short. But, like I said, I was in love. Mere injury could not stop us. A quick stop at the drugstore for a cold pack and it was time to bowl. At the bowling alley I discovered several things: 1. I bowl better with my ass exposed. Don't ask me to explain it and don't look if you're just gonna complain about how white, flabby, hairy, and/or pimply it is. It's power is undeniable. James Brown got soulpower. I got asspower. 2. Rum and cokes sit surprisingly well on red wine. Is it some magic exception to the no mixing rule? Or did I just magically dodge a bullet the way you do sometimes? Clearly more research needs to be done in this area. 3. DDR is fawking hard. How do Chu do what he do? Granted, I was drizunk on the trizunk and nursing a game ankle but damn! This was failure on a whole new level. When the bowling had run its course (108!) we all went out to Canter's, a 24 hour deli with some damn good matzo ball soup. Real cities are open 24 hours. Do you know what Seattle has that's open 24 hours? Nothing you really want to visit. Greasy spoons full of vampires and people with nowhere else to go. I got in about 4:45 and for once, I realized, I was exactly where I wanted to be. I didn't have that vague longing that someone on the list was talking about recently, thinking that other places were somehow better and the people there were having more fun. Someone once said (how many times have I said that in a post?) Los Angeles is the lover in whose arms you would not want to die. Well, last night, I would've said the pleasure, the privilege is mine. ice packs and advil, Rinaldo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sun Sep 2 20:57:13 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 15:57:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Great Lakes Picnic - AFTERMATH Message-ID: I think we can safely say that the Great Lakes Picnic was a success. It was a great time and the best part was meeting some very cool people. Massive props go to Colin and his non-Sinister friends who made the drive all the way up from Kentucy to meet up with us. Also in attendence were the dynamic duo of Shawn and Emily, as well as the well-known Kirsten Kenyon, and of course the real brains behind the picnic and navigator extrodinaire Amy Bancroft, who desrves a special award for not tossing me out of the car for mangling Belle and Sebastian tunes on the ride back to Michigan. For those of you who didn't come you missed good food, ribena, Red bull & vokda, roasting marshmellows, a bonfire, the joys of running into barb wire in the dark, the sinister squaredance, and many other things that I'm far too tired to remember. Dancing was attempted but resulted in a near concussion for the two sinister peeps involved. Many thanks to Colin and company for inviting us all back to their campsite for drinking and bonfire fun, and for bringing vodka to go along with the Red Bull I brought. Hopefully everyone woke up this morning feeling refreshed and clearheaded, if so you're a bit farther ahead than I was. Anyways, a brilliant time was had by all, and many thanks to everyone involved, we'll have to do it again sometime. Next time I think I'll be a bit more careful of the barbed wire :) Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 01:31:35 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 19:31:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: dirt in your fries Message-ID: i came home from the picnic with a giant smile on my now-sunburned face, and it's amazing what three hours at home can do to kill a mood. dad's throwing the employment section in my face again and mom's giving me crap about missing church. and i've been sitting here reading everyone's posts...people writing about travelling, rinaldo's lovely ode to LA...and it is making me feel as though i'm never going to get out of milwaukee. i am sort of worried that forty years from now i will still be living here, working at viktor viktoria and cursing a lot. the picnic, however, was a wonderful time, even if i did drink myself sick. thank you thank you, jim, for kindly helping me to climb through the barbed wire and also for remembering to put my shins album back in my car, even after i'd nearly given you a concussion by means of reckless squaredancing. i dearly hope you are not suffering any bodily injury on my part. colin, thank you for the delicious grilled cheese breakfast slam. never in my wildest dreams had i imagined that such culinary delights could be so impeccably prepared without the use of any conventional kitchen utensils. amy bancroft, you are one great geehaw, and if i ever geehaw up the courage to get my tattoo i would love for you to geehaw on over to milwaukee and hold my geehaw if i get scared. shawn and emily, i didn't get to talk to either of you very much but you both seem lovely. shawn, i would love to see some of your work sometime and good luck with your show in minneapolis, and emily, your hummus smelled absolutely delicious, and in hindsight i can see that i probably should have said "to hell with my lack of hungriness" and eaten some anyway, if only to have some sort of cushion for all of the alcohol in my poor tummy. colin, your friends are great. oooh, i just wanted to bring everyone home with me. okay well that's about it. i am pretty tired from the drive and all. xoxo kirsten -ps--on the way home i was wondering...is IHOP really international? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Mon Sep 3 02:31:52 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 02:31:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Picnic- stop press Message-ID: <3B92DD88.F0CED5F1@netscapeonline.co.uk> Hullo again. After some to-ing and fro-ing, if not to say toeing and frolicking yet, a bunch of us have decided that a nice place for our picnic (that is, the soonest Scottish one, as plenty are going on or are being planned for elsewhere too) would be Edinburgh's Royal Botanic Gardens. 2pm, 15th Sept, 2001. Although I suspect that consumption of picnics amongst their prized collection of 'representatives of most families of flowering plants, conifers, cycads, ferns and their allies - nearly 17,000 species' might have to be somewhat on the discreet side, we can always go to the pub after (nearby Stockbridge has some nice ones) and, if it's raining, there's a hothouse full of exotic things. The idea is that's it's simply a rather attractive and interesting place to meet up. And it's free to get in. The link below describes what buses to catch, etc: http://www.rbge.org.uk/visitor/visinfo.htm#inverleith This map may also be of assistance: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?scale=25000&X=325000&Y=676000&gride=324852&gridn=675560&width=700&height=400&client=M6&db=&overviewmap=&coordsys=gb&down.x=15&down.y=21 The gardens are in the middle, at the top. Waverley station is towards the middle, on the right. I hope the link works... if not, try the multimap.com site. The main entrance is on Aboretum Place. If anyone wants to meet earlier at, say, Waverly Station, let me know and, of course, please E-mail if you have any other queries. Unfortunately, in the blurry and latter stages of the picnic by the sea, my mobile phone disappeared... elsewhere. If someone who does posess the requisite equipment would like to offer to be mobile networker on the day that would be cool. Richard? OKYDOKY. I think that's about it. Now that there seem to be a few people definitely on board, the whole thing is gaining momentum and, hopefully, lots of you will be able to come. I still want to gatecrash Harry's party, though :) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woolything at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 04:34:07 2001 From: woolything at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 03:34:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jefferson, I think we're lost Message-ID: I've been away again. But not for quite as long. I'm sure you're glad. Hey! Sinister! You're my best mate.. (sob). While I was away, England put a lucky five past the worst German team in history, and the Flying Dutchman Richard Gillanders posted. Crikey, that boy uses more sentences than I. Do. Wow. He deserves a tape for that. Picnic photos. Some points: Carsmile: Stop looking silly. It suits you far too much. Cazza: Move! I wanna see that dress! Wowser! Kenneth looks startlingly like Keith watson. I was startled. Fair dos though, I mean, we'd all like to, wouldn't we girls? CONVERSATION FEAR The other night, I went to a 'party'. I say it like this only because, at a party you are supposed to meet new and interesting people. Or at least new people. Aren't you? I didn't meet any new people, but I found all of them interesting. We listened to Tigermilk. My goodness, it's a good album, isn't it? I wouldn't have chosen to listen to it at all, only it happened to be lying on top of the stereo at the time. I thought "this feels like 1996", or at least how I imagine 1996 to have felt. For all the romance that surrounds that year, I didn't go to parties and I didn't listen to Belle and Sebastian records. In fact I didn't do very much, except watch Scotland outplay England for a whole half. During the week I bought some records, which I'm very pleased with. There were some albums, which were very reasonable, and two singles, which were: 'Cattle And Cane/Heaven says' - The Go-Betweens. G McLennan, 1983. 'How Will I Know/Someone For Me' - Whitney Houston. G Merrill, S Rubicam, NM Walden/R Jones, F washington, 1985. Which both excite me like nothing else, which is why music is my favourite art. You can only dance to one of them though. These are only two of the great single of the eighties. Some day Steady Mike might tell us what the others are, but he'll probably wait until we're all dead before he reveals his secret notebooks. When Mr and Mrs SM go 'home', does Berry cross the Mersey? Here's The PF89: >>My girlfriend told me to write this. She also told >>me to write that she told me to write this. >She told me that you were not into vegetables. But she >didn't tell me to write it. She's right. When she sprung a leek on me I almost carrotted her. >No. But I know your address. I also know an REM song >that says 'Here's my new address'. Is it 'Letter Never >Sent'? I like that bridge. You're right, it is. I just listened to it. Is it better than the bridge over the river Kwai though? How about the bridge over troubled water? Or even, to be parochial for just a second, the bridge over the Clyde? How did The Care Bear describe it? I wish I could remember. Oh wait, I don't need to: "..a big slithering brawny dark churning intimidating bottomless beautiful thing" Braw. The girl has a way with words. Usually she just spits them at me though. >We should talk more about >old, good REM songs. Like 'Little America' or - darn >it, I cannot remember the name of the one I want to >mention. Something about a canyon? You've lost me on that one, I'm afraid. But yes, 'Little America' is good; the double reference in THAT line, whatever else that might go along with it: let's talk about, oh, the end of 'So. Central Rain', or the extra guitar part in the final verse of 'Harborcoat', or the beginning of 'Carnival Of Sorts', the way those four breathless souls all rush in at once, with the coolness of touch and the confidence of youth, like that photo of Mills on the back of the second album. This is a good subject, I think. And I haven't even talked about the first album yet. >I think I started to think your mail was >a bit spoky I think I see what you mean. It went in lots of different directions? It kept spinning on? Undoubtably, this is one of your better verbs. I don't think I've enjoyed a David Moore post as much for a while. That sentence may be badly constructed. Anyway, his last one was vee gee, as Mr Murdoch is fond of saying. For him, a definition. David, not Stuart, of course. Clatty: Adj. Dirty, smelly, or generally unpleasant in the area of hygiene. The Canadian's post was also nice. I look forward to the return of her fuzzy trousers and poor organisational skills. Top lass. I just realised what day it is. And it almost floored me. I'm stunned. Alasdair xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Sep 3 09:21:19 2001 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:21:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: All Flatt And No Scruggs Message-ID: <002001c13451$7f4c80c0$9d69243e@itjfvkli> I took a couple of B&S t-shirts to the charity collection bin for refugees or something. So keep your eyes open, I expect to see them gracing a machine gun brandishing maniac bumping down a dirt track on the back of a lorry soon. Speaking of charity, I've had a great idea for B&S's trip to Brazil. Why don't they adopt a street urchin? It would be great publicity, they could all be filmed disappearing down the street urchin's manhole. It would be like the Clangers on bad acid. Once inside the street urchin's sewerage-infested hidey-hole, they could serenade him with an acoustic singalong version of Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue as he looks on, glassy-eyed with gratitude. Well, it's better than nothing, I haven't seen many other suggestions... I think that 3,6,9 story is the best one Stuart has graced us with so far. I love the way he uses the word "friend" instead of "bird". David, I think Enrique might have been referring to the Spanish edition of Rolling Stone. I'd go and check it out, but it comes with some kind of Planet of the Apes thing sellotaped to the front. Speaking of which, did you know that Planet of the Apes and Bridge on the River Kwai were both written by the same person? And somehow that really impressed me. I wear my clothes because they were in the sales. And I certainly don't wear them in order to attract other people who buy their clothes in the sales. That would be disgusting. Top Gear mentioned Ribena in connection with possible upholstery stains. Sister Disco +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 09:56:30 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Rolf Harris, Chocolate, Bikinis, Rock And Roll Message-ID: <20010903085630.88356.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> hey you lot! Hmm. Eating chocie when I oughta not eat chocie. Supposed to go on holiday next week, although I ain't got a passport. and how on earth am I supposed to look good in a bikini with a few wobbly bits (read "few" as "far too much and lots of") that won't go away? Hmm. comfort eat chocolate. Hey! I saw Rolf Harris on Saturday in Glasgow, signing autographs on sauchiehall street, before entering into the Garage. Sitting in Nice N Sleazies at the time of spotting, most of the other drinkers went a bit star struck. Or maybe it was just me. My boyfriend'll deny it, but he was starstruck too. Bought a capo at the weekend, and some pectrums. Now I am ready to take over your lives. Everything sounds better now. Mind you, saw James Orr Complex supporting Papa M at Sleazies, and if thats the standard, this miss has so much to learn. *sigh*. Music falls into bunches of catagories. 1. Wow! Thats amazing! So inspiring! I wanna write music now! 2. Thats alright. Ho hum. (Possibly the worst reaction you could evcer have) 3. Thats not really..my cuppa tea... (I would confess to someone) 4. Wow! thats really inspiring! Its sooo incredibly stupendously awful! Yipee! I have a chance of making it! I know I'm better than them/him/her/ it /whatever. 5. Oh god. Thats fantastic. I'm never gonna be that good. I might as well give up now. *bursts into tears of frustration and jealousy* 6. God Speed You Black Emperor? Pass the prozac. *Muffled sounds of idleberry being passinoately hateful for GYBE* if you can think of any more, then feel free to tell. Right, Thats all from me today. Later you lot, *hugs snogs and thumbwars* idleberry ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 10:53:59 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:53:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: health is worth more than learning. Message-ID: <20010903095359.57976.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> not much here. with a hardbacked, abridged, children's edition of 'gulliver's travels' nearby. I think. of. "blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed.". a connection more lateral than literal. or maybe it is literal. literally. gordon: unfortunately. my communicating abilities [you're wanting them on a mobile level] are as hampered as my organising ones. which might be appropriate for a picnic. but. no. I cannot be the 'networker'. although I would like a title of some sort. and to be involved in its selection. so that it isn't offensive. to me. and doesn't refer to my dutch ancestry. NO. I can't be your 'networker'. not because there was another party and I destroyed a device which is designed to help [or, at least, help] with that one. but. because I don't have one. and if I did. hm. och. lots of other people have mobile phones. and most of them keep them fully charged. someone will volunteer. I just know it. I went to a canyon in nineteen ninety-five. and a different one in nineteen ninety-seven. I think I went to a party in nineteen ninety-six. where did I hear 'happy heart' by andy williams? I have a feeling it was over the closing credits of some film or another. or maybe it just reminds me of the theme tune from 'lovejoy'. the start. anyway. anyone? "Authored in 1939, but unpublished until 1966 (posthumously), 'The Third Policeman' seems like some mad merger of 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Dante's Inferno'. Arguably his best work, it is a murder thriller, a vision of eternity, a visit to hellish rural police station, and the tale of 'a brief, tender, unrequited love affair between a man and his bicycle'." someone mentioned flann o'brien a while ago. and I remember who it was. I got this book a week ago today. and I read a quarter of it. and lost it. the book. that is. I saw the james orr complex at nice 'n' sleazy's last year. he was really quite good. if I remember. correctly. oh. I don't know. yeah. he was very good. there are acoustic nights at nice 'n' sleazy's. does anyone go to those acoustic nights at nice 'n' sleazy's? like. tonight's? I'm clutching at straws. when there should be other clutching. happening. forget it. LOVE, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Mon Sep 3 12:12:54 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:12:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: on an oak tree rudely sprawled, KC loved tree Message-ID: blimey! what are you lot doing here? Much to mention so I'll press on. It's going picanicagogo around here (there, everywhere) at the moment. If anyone's got a spare plane ticket from UK to SanFran going I'm willing to pay upto half a box of fruit pastilles for the chance to play soccer in Golden Goal Park. Failing that by happy coincidence I'm going home to Manchester next week so hopefully will get to Platt Fields (we could give KK's (that's Kevin Keegan not Kirsty Kenyon(oh bother I've got all tied up in parentheses)) kids a game!), Heaton Park or wherever. Grate Lakes, great Scott - what's all this barbed wire business all about? I think we deserve a more detailed account. Seeing other people's posts: Mummy I Grazed my Knee, when commenting on Rob Brennan's lovely photies, said "Apps wins the prize for looking like a young Mathew Pinsent". I think that young man is looking for a ROW - or is that a row? A mention on a post does wonders for one's self esteem dont chu know. After Peter Carter's epic tale of calamity, can we confirm that Kara got home safely? PeteSketchSteve was talking about Track and Field's shindig at the Scala. Hello to Nic, Cabbage, Martin and Paul who I spoke to, and Lucy, Elena and Sally who I didn't (far too shy). The Tompaulin geezer said things about B&S's own Sarah Martin that wouldn't be allowed on this list, but as he didn't say it on this list we'll have to let him off with a black pot a kettle and a big pile of PIES! I went to see Hedwig and the Angry Inch last night and it's fab. A thouroughly inadequate potted review might call it a "touching transexual rock musical odessy" While I'm in review mode go read Sputnik Sweetheart by Haruki Murakami. It's as close to B&S as I've read in a novel. bye then Ben xxx 'Bored of trade since 1978' +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 13:44:48 2001 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (joanna tsoni) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:44:48 +0300 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Lost day... One Lost day.... One more Lost day.... I draw the curtains aside and for the first time today i see the day outside. It's cloudy. And still. Everything seems numb. So silent. And like awaiting for something that is yet to come. Though it never does. It's always on its way...always imminent and its omnipresence haunts my days...For 20 years now our paths have never been crossed.... The windows of the houses and the blocks of flats, like open mouths with foul teeth, like eyes that have been pulled out, stare agape into the grey-blue void. I draw thecurtains back and I feel safe in their shade.The Clientele's melodies are filling the time and space of my room. I don't really know why I'm writing this. I don't really think i have something to say. As usual. It's just that when I dont have something to say I say the most. . . . . ..... I live, thus i exist....What a misconception! Living doesn't necessarily mean existing, and the other way round. Ultimately everybody lives...Each one his own separate meaningful in its mediocrity, life....But how many of us L i v e and E x i s t at the the same time really? I think, thus i think....It's been a long time since I last dared to think. Immaturity on the one had and the violent outbreak of sexuality on the other, led teh brain to a pleasant nirvana...I can't say it was a bad experience though....Not at all...Dancing, boozing, singing, meeting people, flirting, having sex...I could even describe it as pleasant maybe. The only thing is that this specific state of mind has a vEry bIg drawback.....it's SO extremely T e m p o r a r y.... Everything was really going very well. Trapped and blinded by all teh luring beauties of this new life , on teh outskirts of teenage, the mind thought it was HaPpY. But still...deep inside it felt that something wasn't right. There was a small void, a little black hole, sucking all the light, that was left empty however beutiful life was or seemed to be.... Suddenly everything changed. The heart started beating faster and heavier...So intense her beating was that the whole body started to shudder and shake. The body hurts. Thinking gets blurred. Arms and legs are paralysed. Eyes get wet. The fairytale wants teh princess to cry over the dead prince and her tears to bring him back to life. Fairytales come true as it seems sometimes... This cry of pain of the heart was transmitted throughout the body, reached the head and was directed to the eyes. The silent guards of subjective reality yielded under the glory of Pain. Tears. Tears of dissilutionment, sadness and doubt. They slowly flow at first, beginning from the burning hot top, the soft,fleshy holes beneath the eyes , ending to the frozen end...my chest. They reluctantly yet so decisively carve their descending route on the wretched, cold and dusty skin. How strange, instead of becoming a part of teh iceberg themselves, they begin to melt the ice. Tears have broken into the frozen prison of the mind.I can feel something cracking, breaking inside me. maybe that hard stone in me. The only salvation is to bend over the cracks on the stone and suck the tears that lies cool and life-giving in the depth. However cold, rough and sharp teh rock might be under my bleeding lips. Only this tear can put off this inexplicable heat and loosen my bonds. All, or almost all people fall into the trap sooner or later. Some of them remain trapped, stupefied, blinded by this glow and glitter in there. The few ones that manage to escape, see that this blinding light is nothing more that a 25 W lightbulb. A fake deceptive, faint light, able to lure you only because its's teh only source of light in the darkness of the trap. Black, Thick Darkness that engulfs you. Penetrating your body every time you think you achieve something important...Money, clothes, abuse, show-off, mindless and emotionless sex. Then everything is simple. Thought abandins the body that is left ungoverned like the ball of the pin-ball games.... Am I awake? or am i dreraming perhaps? Do I really believe that i have broken out of my prison at last while i have only been transferred to a deeper cell? I dont know but my heart hurts. ....Not that much......just a little....but it hurts....I can feel it...I recognise that pain....It's been a long time since I last hurt like that and i remember choosing the shameless selling of myself in order to avoid feeling anything ever again..... I collect my broken pieces off the ground. The war was short but destructive.... I'll need some time to recover. But i wont give up.... I'll keep fighting my own war, Alone. I'll keep searching for my Utopia. I still have a lot to learn. But i can do it... A step at a time.... ....... sorry for the tremendous lenght of this....but i suppose i can get away with it since its been more than 3-4 months since i last pestered the list with my rants..... cheers from athens that can't make up her mind....whether its autumn or summer still...... joan of dark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 14:17:09 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:17:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Picnic- stop press In-Reply-To: <3B92DD88.F0CED5F1@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: If *you* can see this, press Delete now. On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Gordon wrote: > After some to-ing and fro-ing, if not to say toeing and frolicking yet, > a bunch of us have decided that a nice place for our picnic (that is, > the soonest Scottish one, as plenty are going on or are being planned > for elsewhere too) would be Edinburgh's Royal Botanic Gardens. 2pm, 15th > Sept, 2001. I popped down there today in the interests of Research, seeing as nobody else seems to have bothered. The large signs by the entrance saying "NO PICNICS" make me think that this is an incredibly stupid idea. I've heard of picnics ending in disaster, but never of picnics ending in disaster before they've even started. Anyone for a sensible, straightforward, soberly-organised picnic somewhere ele in the city? No? No answer? No change there then. Have fun getting thrown out, y'all. xx gneissy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Sep 3 14:44:44 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:44:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The pilgrimage has gained momentum Message-ID: <20010903134444.96026.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Ally Cookie mentioned someone else who mentioned early REM. The words 'REM' and 'early' placed within flirting distance of each other is enough to make me coo with delight but I won't cos I'm at work. Murmur barely got a mention but that's my 'fave' (unless I'm in a really contrary mood then it's Fables Of The Reconstruction - and soon the punches fly). It always takes me back to being a miserable 15 year old wondering why those sounds made him feel like he did despite the barely audible lyrics - ahhh. I wonder if it's healthy to like music that reminds you of being a depressed teenager? Hope so. Oh and the pictures of the kudzu vines and the trestle bridge on the sleeve are ace. Light, shadow, nature, architecture... mmmmm. I've got a soft spot for Document as well - although The One I Love has gone a bit stale and tends to be skipped these days. It was played by the band at a wedding reception once which I found a bit bizarre. All depends on individual interpretation I suppose. So there's a picnic in Embra. I'm gonna be up in Scoatland visiting friends west o' Glesgie that weekend so on the 15th I'll attempt to drag a non-sinister B&S fan across the country to the other, more postcardy city for byooze related funs. Thanks to everyone who said nice things about the Red Knickers photos. No reponse to the caption 'competition' yet. Probably for the best but I'm still accepting entries due to my failiure to set a closing date. 'At the end of the day I'll forget your name.' Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Mon Sep 3 16:27:57 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:27:57 Subject: Sinister: yo mama! Message-ID: <153998209@spray.se> Hello drrrrrlings! I hope that all of you are having a fab day, mine sura has been! I skipped p.e and took the bus to Stockholm insted with my friend Anna. I bought a NME, and an absolutely fantastic record: bad cash quartet - outcast. It´s just ACE. Some of the wedish papers have compared bad cash quartet with the stroked, and all agrre: bad cash quartet is the better one. I mean, maybe I WOULD have bought the record (strokes) if they weren´t so overexposed and overrated. Sure, they play quite good music, sure. But I don´t think that it´s more than that. If anyone of my friends come up to me and tell me to by the strokes, I might just spontaneously throw up. I am SICK and TIRED of the strokes. I got a record yesterday as well, a late birthdaygift from my uncle and his family, with a swedish artist called Magnus Carlson. The album title translates as "It´s just you, you, you". I LOVE IT! It´s very melancholic, dramatic, a whirlwind of emotions that grabs you and you get caught up in the middle of it all. Too bad that you don´t know how to speak swedish, because then you could listen to loads of fantastic music. I think that´s grate, having two languages to listen to. Magnus Carlson sings in a band called Weeping Willows, and their most famous song is blue and alone. I bet it´s on audiogalaxy.com, so download it, it´s a very beautiful song. We have been told, in our swedish class, that we should write a novel. UH. I CAN write those kind of novels that are just about girl meets boy and they fall in love blah blah blah. And write it for myself, sure. But would I let my teacher, one of the most repulsing persons I´ve ever met, read a lovestory that I´ve written? NO! I´m thinking of writing about a fox. But I don´t know what to write about it. We read a novel in our swedish class today, that was about a caraccident, and a child gets killed, so it was a really horrible thing to read. But it was a picture of the author, and, I feel ashamed to tell you, that I thought "WOW, he sure looks good!". But then I felt really bad about it, because I SHOULD be thinking about how he was telling a story, but still, I had that stupid, superficial thought stuck in my mind like gum in your hair. I think I´ll go and eat some chocolate bars instead of writing more crap. Take care, Astrid xxx ---------- http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/darling a site about b&s and their fans´ love to them. ---------- _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mouser at xxx.net Mon Sep 3 16:35:28 2001 From: mouser at xxx.net (Shawn and Emily) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:35:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My Art is better than your Art References: <153998209@spray.se> Message-ID: <003001c1348e$0f6ebb00$e218fea9@7b74c01> Hello Sinister. If none of you has anything to do, AND you live in the Mpls/St. Paul area, please consider coming to an opening reception for an exhibition of my paintings. It is on the 14th of September from 6-9 PM. More info (along with two really horrible reproductions of my work) can be found at www.theissgallery.com There'll be free wine and no one to card you, so c'mon kiddies... I put this somewhat pitiful invitation out there because I've just returned from the Great Lakes Sinister picnic. There I met several very lovely Sinister folk and I am now eager to meet more of you. Hope to see some of you there. Kind Regards, Shawn Krueger (subject line taken from a Le Tigre song I heard when Mrs. Krueger dragged me to one of their recent shows...silly, silly) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 17:43:54 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:43:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Line 22 of page 36 of the book she was reading contained both our names Message-ID: <121.3b9ac3f.28c50d4a@aol.com> Hewwo, Well, its Monday, I have a really bad cold, someone buzzed me today and nearly burst all my stitches, and those kids who bet me up a lot keep giving me evils, but I'm still in an undefeatable good mood. I am never going to ever touch wine again ever after last weekend. I went to stay in fife, and three of us went on a legendary Tour Of Scummy Pubs In Glenrothes only in the third one (i think) I bought a bottle of wine, and no one would drink it with me, and it was the 15% stuff that costs a fiver and tastes like Meths. And apparantly I got quite ruined. It was one of those nights where I did everything that could possibly ever be embarrassing. Like Jaz said something silly and I called her a retard really loudly and over and over again because I was being drunk and obnoxious. But there was this couple sitting with their son at the next table, and their son had Down's Syndrome, so they thought I was shouting it at him, and the three of us nearly got kicked in. And I left my mobile phone in the car. Rats. Oh and I was sick, a lot. And it was that bright purple radioactive stuff and it tasted of Ribena, because all my bodily fluids are in fact Ribena. I only mention my sick because it was purple and therefore good. Oh and I saw planet of the apes, which was rubbish. School is swell at the moment, cause it's not too late on in the term, so I can doss about without fear of panic. Except I don't, cause I'm hellbent on leaving from 5th year. But it's generally been grate since the Blonde ditched me for the Posse Girls and now she can't stop me from having other friends. And I'm walking home instead of getting the bus, and I'm taking packed lunches too (packed lunch = crisps and 6 bottles of Ribena) Ooh, it's picnic season. I like picnics of the sinister variety. I want to come to the Embra one. I hope I can. I'm feeling quite sad now the the Runaway Thread is finished. I thought it was going to go on forever. i hope Belle and Sebastian cover an Anal Cunt song because it would be funny. Isobel singing I Gave Your Kid Aids So You Could Watch It Die. Actually, maybe everyone should be really glad that they would never do that. B&S are pure, I promise. I better go now, early night and lemsip calls. Sniff. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Mon Sep 3 20:37:34 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:37:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Pic-a-nic response In-Reply-To: <72.f3f9929.28c28a84@aol.com> Message-ID: <200109031937.f83JbYg22946@mail.redbricks.org.uk> so the 15th of september? that sounds fine to me. what sort of time are you thinking of? what's smile like? that's at the star & garter isn't it? a friend of mine puts on indigo at the uni & he's a big b&s fan & will be sure to play lots of b&s stuff if there's a load of us that go down. maybe even cheap in . . . . (he might kill me for saying that, so i'm not so sure yet, but maybe) i don't know what night indigo is on though . . . platt fields is dead easy for me and is a pretty central location so it might be good. however it might be bad too - lots of flashers as you say & it can be fairly dangerous around there too sometimes - a workmate of mine had his ear bitten off in there and someone got their ear bitten off there the other week too (that one was in the paper). but i don't neccessarily have another suggestion. maybe heaton park - now that's a LOVELY park. its huge too. but its quite far out of manchester. but there are regular buses that go past it. other than that i think i'm about through. what about some alternative venue if it rains (not unlikely, as i'm sure most of you know)? is there a bandstand in platt fields? or something undercover, or do we choose a back up place? i think there may be more questions than answers there, i hope i haven't made this more difficult . . . :-) as for help, yeah it shouldn't be a problem to do something, email me and let me know. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 21:53:01 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:53:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm lucky I can open the door and I can walk down the street Message-ID: I have been trying out which songs are best to listen to on my personal stereo, whilst walking through town of an evening, and I think that Dirty Dream #2 is just about the best. It works like this: Press PLAY at the beginning of the green album and climb on the bus, listen to it non stop on the way into town. A Space Boy dream is half way through as you get off the bus in town. You listen to it as you stride purposefully round the corner, past the cash machines spitting out money to the Top Shop kids posing beside them. You pass the taxi rank, resisting the urge to jump in a cab for the five minute journey. The Town Hall clock glows about you, you check it, not too late not too early. It chimes for 9.15 pm. Down the main shopping street, skillfully avoiding the buskers and the few homeless figures stretched out in front of the bank. They speak to you but you can't hear a word as the music seeps into your head. A little further, past McDonalds, where the bouncers stand outside, laughing, in their long black coats, their cups of coffee steaming in the air. Past the RAWK club, where you may even end up that night, if you're drunk and defenseless enough by closing time. And then it's time to run the gauntlet. The row of four pubs, each selling cheaper drink than the last. Girls in strappy sandals and boys in identikit shirts and chinos stand outside, pushing each other, seeing how the night is shaping up. Their mouths move soundlessly as you push your way through, with every step feeling their eyes on your battered shoes and non-glam jeans and sensible coat ensemble. You focus on the sound in my head as you breeze by them, and are untouchable. Next obstacle: the underpass. You grasp your keys in one hand, a lit fag between the fingers of the other. That way, you can burn or hit any attacker. Your shoulders tense as you walk down the steps, but then Dirty Dream #2 starts, and you hear the soaring violins, and to be truthful, you think a little about sex and as you walk through the underpass, under the strip lighting, you heart lifts, and you're floating, you're fucking flying and you dare them, dare any single one of them out there to try you now and you're walking on air with this sound in your head and your blood. You leave the underpass, breath a little easier, reaching the canal as The Boy With the Arab Strap begins. You pause to look a moment over the moon on the water and the swams leaving V-shaped paths in current. The recorders are playing as you reach the pub and finally press STOP. You go into the pub and kiss the loved one on the mouth and as you stand at the bar waiting for drinks, you realise that no one else knows how full you heart is, but it doesn't seem to matter. Love Madeleine _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 23:00:33 2001 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:00:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles stuff! Message-ID: <8c.c0b3878.28c55782@aol.com> Hello everyone! I am the Queen of the Lurkers although I have been on the list since early '98. Oh my god thats a long time. But anyway. I am going to be going to the show in LA this Wednesday with Lesley Jo, whom some of you may remember (and fondly, I hope) from the old days! I am quite excited because I live in the East and was able to take advantage of the airfare wars to get out to the West! Here is the deal: Im flying into Phoenix, where LJ lives, and we still need to get to LA from there. Driving is possible, technically, but a little scary because neither of us would be at all familiar with the area and its sort of a long drive, too. Does there happen to be anyone making the same trek who could either give two nice, clean, gas-money-totin' girls a ride or at least some pointers? Or does anyone know anything about cheap flights between those points or alternate ways of travel?? Please email me if you have any advice! Please please please! I love you all. Westward Bound, Jess +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poodlerocker at xxx.com Mon Sep 3 23:01:08 2001 From: poodlerocker at xxx.com (philip boucher) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 23:01:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: manchester picnic? Message-ID: I shall try to escape work that day, but we are really short staffed... is it definatly on that date, just so I dont cancel then find out I didnt need to. heaton park takes about 15-20 minuites on the 135 from cannon street in manchester, or a 2 minuite walk for me :) there is a nice field and a lake where you can take a boat ride. it also features that island where les from coronation street got stuck and thought there was a crocodile. hoorah! love, philip http://philip_boucher.tripod.com/philipboucher/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 00:08:30 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:08:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: The picnic mummy has entered the building Message-ID: <7d.1a4e12d8.28c5676e@aol.com> Ok cats and kittens, Manchester picnic update commences. (To everyone who is reading this and couldn't give a toss or is a thousand miles away from Manchester, you are more than welcome to delete this mail now and go read the hundreds of other lovely ones that bear more relevance to your lives as this time than mine. Have you done it? Good, good..now I can continue.) Okey doke.... The date of the picnic itself has been changed from the 15th September (which is also the date of the Edinburgh picnic) to the 16th September which is a Sunday and lovely. The reason for this is that our picnic may just be graced by the evil presence of that Red Bull obsessed sex God, Mr Ken Chu. It's also easier for people who are going to the Edinburgh picnic to come along and visit all of us Southerners *giggle* if they are so inclined. I'm inclined to hold the picnic at Platt Fields, as that seems fairly central and easy for eveyone to get to, even if I have been told that there is a provocation for people's ears being bitten off there. Heaton Park is nice, but they have a frankly disturbing proportion of mentalist scallies per nice normal people and the sight of many people in dufflecoats all enjoying themselves in the sunshine may be just enough to unhinge them I fear. Fletcher Moss park in Didsbury is gorgeous and has two pubs in its vicinity but I don't know how easy it would be for everyone to get there. Is this ok for everybody? If you have any suggestions or offers of help, or suggestions of nicer places for us all to convene, or just want to say Hello and bow at my feet in homage :-) then don't be afraid to email me. Just out of interest, I also work at the Cornerhouse Cafe on Friday nights and sometimes Saturday/Sundays so if you're about at that time do say Hello. The coffee is nice and I don't bite....well, unless inclined. I'm going to watch Gregory's Girl and go to sleep. I'm having a bad evening. Love and screaming at Oasis songs Cay xXx P.S. Ben-Yup, I'm going to be living on Camden Road in UCL halls of residence from 21st September. Scary, expensive and pretentious I know....so forgive me this in advance. "Girlfriends? Boyfriends? They come and go, Now Pickled Onion Monster Munch? They're eternal..." http://photojenni.diaryland.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phoenixx_ala at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 04:32:04 2001 From: phoenixx_ala at xxx.com (Amy Bancroft) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:32:04 +0800 Subject: Sinister: don't feed the ducks meat! Message-ID: <20010904033204.14754.qmail@juno.com> hi,

the great lakes picnic was a very great time, indeed. no doubts that there will be another one. shawn picked a great park in south bend where there were swing sets and lots of things to climb on, like a big cEment toilet. and it was a nice sized group, not too big, and i could remember everyonesnames.

everyone was really nice. and michelle was especially glad that we weren't scary freaks.

colin, thomas, and i had running races. it had been awhile since i'd been running; they stopped for me to catch up - which was thoughtful. running after drinking is hard to do. thomas ran with gabe! and the old people talked about the state fair.

i couldn't stay to camp b/c i had to drop off the kitties in cincinnati the next morning. and i was bummed b/c i like to do naturY things. it was a long 12 hour trip to cincinnati and back, punctuated by only one exciting moment. i found that cincinnati has a very good indie rock station (97.7), or at least better than anything i've come across while traveling. as i was leaving town, i decided to stop and get some caffeine since i was worn out from the picnic and the past week, in general. when i got back in my car and turned the radio on, the dj was saying 'and that was the boy with arab strap by belle & sebastian.' ahhhh!! *jumping up and down in my seat* - i couldn't believe it. i've never heard b&s on the radio (and i still haven't). the pain of missing them by mere seconds took about a hundred miles of driving to truly recover from.

i spent today moving all my belongings out of my apartment and into storage. i think that i finally realized how horrible moving is. i just spent a day of my life just transferring stuff from one place to another. and once i decide where to move to (i.e. where the job is), then i have to do it again. alas.

i didn't get to say bye to kirsten at the picnic, but i hope she will set aside some rainbow leg warmers at her store so i can buy them when i am in milwaukee in a few weeks. and maybe one day, i will get my rainbow house to match.

i have only one question, where was everyone from illinois this weekend?? i hope you will come to the next one b/c we aren't scary freaks at all - its a proven fact. plus, emily makes really great black bean hummus in the middle of night.

picnics should be everyday
luv,
amy b.

ps - listen to the SHINS, the SHINS (for colin)

pss - go see shawn's exhibition in minneapolis/st.paul, if you're close-ish. his art is good art.

-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 09:41:49 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 01:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it could be the story of my life. But thankfully, its not. Message-ID: <20010904084149.97778.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> I got a letter in my inbox today. well, not actually today, but today was the first chance I bothered to open it. It seems that I applied for a job through one of those internet recruitment agencies. Or at least I sent them my CV to do something with it, like a recruitment agency is supposed to do. I knew it was going to be bad news. The fact that the letter was titled "regret.doc" was a bit of a giveaway. Maybe thats why I didn't bother to open it earlier. I've been in a bit of an odd mood these past few weeks, and I'm not big on bad news really. "Dear Kristin" the letter began, "Thank you for sending me your career details which I recently received." Hmm. "You're welcome" I thought, knowing it was going to be bad news. Thats how they always tell you bad news. Start off by seeming all nice and get into your good books, by sounding all sympathetic. And then they shoot you down. "Unfortunately, we are not handling any vacancies which suit your background and experience." At the moment, my background is my brothers messy bedroom, so I can see why a 19 year olds messy bedroom might not be the appropriate setting for work. "I hope you are successful in obtaining a new position, however, should you require any assistance in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us." Assistance with what? with my shopping? I can't remember what job it was that I applied for. I think it was as marketing executive or something. What is an executive anyway? that bit I never really figured out. I found out yesterday that a girl I went to school with has movd to London and become BBC weather girl. Her name is Hannah Moffat. I guess I'll look out for her when I'm entertaining myself with daytime television and trying to think of jobs I could do. So, I still need a job. I was feeling rather down yesterday. All depressed, despondant, and sad. Empty and unhappy. I tried to play my guitar, but that only worked a little bit. With all this time on my hands, I could do so many things. I could sit and write a novel, or an album of music or something. But yesterday I just felt completely out of energy and patience with being creative. It's not something particularly enjoyed feeling. Usually I end up doing crappy jobs, like stuffing envelopes or working in a reception or something, and a million and ten stories come to mind, but becuase I'm working, I can't very well sit and write them down. So I file them away, and somewhere they get forgotten about, or the passion for writing them gets lost in the cogs and fluff in my head. I've got to go to the dentist shortly and have a filling or two. Maybe when I come back, I'll sit down at my brothers computer and put those stories into typed form. A collection of stories. I suppose its not really a good idea to be drinking lemonade and eating chocolate this early in the morning, before a dental appointment really is it? righto. later people, idle+unemployed berry ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandon at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 11:43:13 2001 From: brandon at xxx.com (brandon at xxx.com) Date: 4 Sep 2001 10:43:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 2 Tix for Sat SF show 4 sale Message-ID: <20010904104313.14082.qmail@discontent.com> Apologies all if this is construed as list abuse. I have two floor tickets to the San Francisco show this Sat available for cost. Email me if interested. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 12813249 at xxx.za Tue Sep 4 12:20:07 2001 From: 12813249 at xxx.za (JohaN HUGO) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:20:07 +200 Subject: Sinister: september spawned a monster Message-ID: hallloooooo everyone !!!!! (to really make that work you'll have to spend some time on your falsetto.... just a bit hig... GOOD! much better!) soooo (no fsalsetto required) spring day came and spring day and you know what? so bloody what! (exactly!) it's still cold and rainy here, although nice (we should now be coming to the end of the official, certified... oh no, sorry that's me, that sentence should read "documented" wettest rainy season in 40+ years! - so much for your "mediterannean climate", rinaldo!) but no, i am being unfair, springday was fun all-in-all, and YOU yes, YOU sinister was (were?) there to make it special. you may not have known it, but those few missing hours, that vaguely-remembered funny- smelling towel, that waking up in the gutter with your knickers on all wrong... sorry, that might be slightly beyond the pale, so i'll let it go and get right down to it: business, that is. well, yes, 1a) flowers were made and distributed, b) wine was consumed in rather impolite quantities, c) there were 5 girls in my flat and only one me, d) all of the above (AND E) I DIDN'T BLOODY SCORE!!! thanks spring, thanks for NOTHING!) but besides e), it was all great. having cleared the local supermarket of what must be a record supply of the finest, pure-cut crepe paper, a stack of straws and matches (you can imagine how difficult a stack of matches was to carry!) we assembled at around 2000 to commence our apprenticeships as nature's littles helpers (don't look at me like that, spring, i'm still fuming!) oh, i'd also made a tape of the most insanely cheerful music i had on tape (from the stone roses to the crystals - does everyone else love phil spector? - the cure to the lemonheads - does anyone else love "hospital" as much as i do?) and discovered a song that i'm hoping someone can tell me who it's by (the chorus goes: "f*ck off! who d'you think you are? get out of my f*cking flat. [varies] don't talk to me like that!" - it's delightful really, but take it from me, your neighboursd might not like it at top volume at 3 in the morn. okay, okay, i'm getting there though. having assembled and approved the prototype (a lot of approving was going on, but no KISSING, dammit! what's wrong with me?) we rapidly moved into production mode. soon flowers were stacked to the stars, or at least, we'd filled a few boxes, and decided to go distribute. all up the main street of varsity residences, on the grass under the oak trees - its hard to believe now, thinking back, how beautiful it looked under the streetlights. even the sky was getting dewy-eyed, with the moon peeking shyly through. i was so elated, i was literally jumping up and down, and momentarily forgot to think about sex. (don't worry, i'm better now, and the doctor promises no lasting effects). wild with enthusiasm, and because vicky needed the toilet, we rushed back to my flat, and eagerly set to it again (folding flowers alright - how many times must i tell you, there is positively NO shagging in this story!), emerging again in an hour's time with anther box full of blooms (by way of a change)... BUT ALACK!!! (see? that sums up my whole eveing in two words: instead of a-lass, a-lack!) my faith-in-human-nature was about to become an ex-faith-in-human-nature. for some undescribable reason, some undescribable person or personages had come and picked EVERY SINGLE one of the previous crop, bunched them up horribly, and thrown them in a heap (at 3 in the morning, i ask you! - well, actually can i make that "i proposition you!"?). and we hadn't taken photo's yet! so we ended up just planting a little corner very densely and went off to recuperate. well, that's it, then. at least people did seem to enjoy that little patch though (it lasted somewhat longer)! OH, but i almost forgot. sometime in the course of the evening, someone suggested the need to name our little newly-founded collective, and so of course i jumped in with "sinister" which seemed to go down well, so you were all there too, in name if not in numbers. good news is we plan to ride again: the next date tentatively pencilled in is hallowe'en, and then guy fawkes. be warned: i'll keep you posted, unless you explicitly tell me not to! (the next day i went for a picnic too, but it hardly seems to have compared to the others on the list: enjoy autumn everyone, it's my favouritest season of all, and i'm madly jealous!) love JohaN ps. sorry this is so long, but it was the best evening i've had for so long* and i thought, heck, if no-one HERE is interested, then why bother? anyway, thanks if you've read this far. lots of love to the sweet miss bates, to dahling stacey (you said i could!), to dimitra of the lovely posts (and grecian columns), kate 913 (what did we decide on - monomania?) and steve peet for his kind offer. i think that's it, sorry if i've forgotten you. also to all the people who write so much so beautifully. you make things slightly greener in a dry white season... *that is, except for the distinct lack of any snogging, as you may recall me vaguely implying somewhere, but that just makes it like any OTHER evening in my life. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shewitt at xxx.uk Tue Sep 4 14:43:07 2001 From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:43:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "much better behaved than a1 fans" Message-ID: ello babies it feels like it's been a while, i guess that reading post the other week didn't really count, so it probably is a while. picnic was fun, hello everyone who was there and thank you for talking to the nice radio 1 ladies (which is where the subject line comes from). as long as i'm told in time, i'll let everyone else know when it's on :) oh and if you think Rob's picture makes me look silly, think again: http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~nraggett/trigbro9.jpg makes me look *silly* (note to self: stop going to pubs where ppl have cameras) also i can't belive pez met the moldy peaches, *shakes fist*, although i can believe that i met pez, which was nice. not too much was shared about the n'cle picnic although i may have missed it due to email nightmares. anyway i had a lovely time there too, laughing at the slipneds in old eldon square, and playing pool with the shark lowery. the number of picnics seems to be reaching near epidemic proportions at the moment, but then i suppose, at least for those of us in the northern hemispehere, the season is coming to an end for another year, aw. oh well we'll just have to content ourselves with sitting in the pub. I must say there have been some lovely posts recently, once all that nastiness was out of the way, so !P!R!O!P!S! to you, the kids :) I'm sure there was lots of other things to Report Back on... oh well, hope you are all keeping lovely xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 14:20:03 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:20:03 Subject: Sinister: postpostpostpostpost i'm posting Message-ID: I've officially popped my picnic cherry, and I have a KAPOW Batman badge to prove it. I've been wearing the "Wonderful Wisconsin" yellow sun visor all weekend because Kirsten let me steal it. Ms. Kenyon, by the way, has regrets about losing her anonymity- so I'll just let the cat out of the bag before she crawls back into her hiding place: she is Peurto Rican, and she looks like Jennifer Lopez (speaks with a lovely carribean dialect). It is important, I think, to visit the actual lakes of the picninc title. My friends and I climbed up the sand dunes and rolled down the other side toward the beach. The ladies thought it a shame that Thomas Green-Jeans and I didn't jump in, but we enjoyed the beach-side view (aside from the giant factory stack on the horizon) while they frolicked in the water with their clothes on. I made a sand alien (complete with sea shell eyes) and I performed an autopsy on it using various pebbles as organs. Nobody liked my joke of making a sand embryo and performing a beach abortion on it, so I won't mention that. My friends have been trying to organize their thoughts about what-it-takes-to-be-a-bellandsebastian-fan and how did we all become twee. It wasn't until I got home from the great lakes that I realized my answer. My mother showed me pictures of her as a child. I realized that everyone had a twee childhood in the 50s. We are the last generation to be ripped from a twee childhood and thrust into a world of video games and action figures. I liked the transition at the time, but now I'm mourning the loss of twee things- like the joys of making snow men in my corduroy coat or launching persimmons at my neighbor friends in a game of "war". Of course, I always tend to get a bit over-dramatic when dealing with the subject of childhood, but it seems like children don't even have a chance now to avoid techno-crap-crap. In dealing with this new-found thought process, I've decided to get a job at the Imaginarium (the educational branch of The Toys R Us). No video games, no action figures- just twee toys and equipment. I'm not quite sure how friends and family will react to me working at both a toy store and a lipstick kiosk, but anyway... Secret decoder rings, Colin (or Road-Trip Tink) P.s. Amy- Charlie Rose said in his interview "we about had a Jihad with the situation" and I danced about because your word was kinda used, but I sulked when the other person said "Yeah, a real 'holy war'". Can I call you malaprop Amy from now on? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 16:24:50 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it could have been a brilliant career Message-ID: <24629006.999617090914.JavaMail.imail@swirly> a fellow sinisteree told me once to write to sinister when i didn't feel like it. so here i am. no promises for my usual greatness. sometimes, like today, i wish i didn't have a face everyone would recognize. but i don't know if that means i wish i was bland or plain or just another (albeit gorgeous) girl walking around wearing a shirt featuring dancing teeth. no. i think i'd like to be tall and/or mysterious. a model who's clearly not a model and clearly not interested in anyone at all. but alas. i'll get to class and take out my pink pen that says 'lindsey' and everyone will know who i am and that's the end of that. it's quiet in the newsroom today. and if i could hang on to that quiet, i might make it nicely through the day. picnics. i must mention something about picnics. is it too soon to have another american heartland shindig? something in the nebraska/kansas/missouri region? or perhaps there was one and i missed the boat. i just simply feel all kinds of left out. ok. no more whining. and with nothing else to say, really, i think i'll turn my face away. lindsey lou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9804630C at xxx.uk Tue Sep 4 17:07:22 2001 From: 9804630C at xxx.uk (Aileen Campbell) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:07:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: erm....hello Message-ID: Hello there Just out of the nursery thing and so I thought i d say, "hello". However, I am a wee bit worried as I can`t re read the rules as the internet thing is not wroking for me so I hope I do everything OK. Hope you are all well as you have all made my time in the library and the dissertation slog go along quite pleasantly (this is considering I broke my copy of tigermilk and now I only have a tape of a vinyl recording...boo hoo!). speak to you soon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 17:52:48 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:52:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: Jenowl in list abuse shocker Message-ID: <162.4f46a7.28c660e0@aol.com> Hewwo, The Lovely Ian Hatcher asked me to post and say that he REALLY really wants to go to the LA concert (of B&S) but he's in LA just now on holibyes, so doesn't have e mail acess. So if anyone has a spare ticket he can buy off them and pick up either beforehand or on the night he would be grateful. So go on, be nice and don't sell it on ebay for millions of pounds. I don't know how much he'd pay but i think more than the ticket price anyways. Sorry about list abuse. I won't do it again. Sorry. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 18:21:38 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: wanted: someone with guitar knowledge Message-ID: <20010904172138.12756.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> hey you lot, I need help. I've been playing my guitar, but I'm not very good at it. No really, I'm not. And whenever I tell my guitar playing friends about it, they give me the same piece of golden advice: Learn to play your favourite song. Well, you know, I try. But I'm not very good at it, so I end up making up my own wee ditties, cos I get so frustrated. Time and time again, they sit there, and then if I'm telling them about my frustrations, they draw closer to me, as if they're about to tell me this wonderful undiscovered secret of guitar playing that nobody has ever told me before. And every time, I get vaguely excited, hoping that they are going to tell me something new. But they don't. They tell me the golden advice. So I try. how I try. But I really only end up making a total hatchet job of any song thats ever been composed. Seriously, I'm not kidding. I can make Isobel Campbell into a frankenstein elvis monster. You think I'm exagerating? nope. Family tree has the same tabs as Amazing Grace. Its a recipe for disaster. My boyfriend and I had a quarrel regarding this a wee while ago. He asked in the end, if I thought anybody found it easy to learn to play guitar. Of course they didn't. But in the light of things at the time, I wasn't going to admit to it, cos I was feeling extremely upset and unhappy about the whole situation, and was really considering selling my guitars, which broke my heart to think about. Plus, I was in a sulk, and I hate admitting anyone else is right, if I'm in a sulk. And sometimes I get really disheartened about the whole thing. It frustrates the hell out of me. Especially when I realise that I'm making Family Tree sound like Leavin' On a Jet Plane (also has similar tabs. Or is it Blowin' in the wind? Oh, I dunno- I play them all the same anyway. And I don't know how not to.) So what do I want? Well, someone to actually teach me properly would be a start. Someone to teach me who lives in the Glasgow/ Edinburgh area. Face to face. And I'll see about coughing up* some cash for your time/ energy/ patience/ as a bribe to stop you bitching about me to everyone on sinister. (*my lungs are like the royal mint. Every time I get flu ten pound notes come flying out my wind pipes. Thats not true. But its such a silly phrase I think.) Someone who has the patience of a saint and knows their way around a fretboard and whatnot. Someone who likes a challenge. I was thinking earlier in the year about getting lessons when I came back to Scotland, but you know,I think its important to meet someone who'll teach me and who is nice and someone I can trust to be gentle with me. Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if anyone thinks they can help me. And please, save the speil about "learn how to play your favourite songs". Cos thats the bit I'm having trouble with. Ha! I'm stumbling with the easy bit! ***************************************************** FOR THE HARDCORE SINISTERIANS you know that www.another.com have the e mail domains of most of the B+S crew? so you can get ilovestewart.co.uk Unfortunately, no Ilovehoney.co.uk, ilovekenchu.co.uk, ilovemick.co.uk or iloveisobel.co.uk i wasn't looking to find one for me.. honest to god. I was actually browisng for isolation.co.uk... yeah yeah, you believe me... bet you wore bros t shirts when you were little. okay, enough from me for the second time today, love idles *waiting for your call* *still waiting...* *drums her fingers while she waits* *takes up knitting* *realises idles needs knitting lessons* *says "to hell with it" and settles for watching Cartoon Network instead.* ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Unhalfbricking at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 18:46:35 2001 From: Unhalfbricking at xxx.com (Unhalfbricking at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:46:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chamaeleon Church Message-ID: <7c.1b001f4c.28c66d7b@aol.com> I recently ordered this gorgeous CD Gentle, breezy, baroque psychedelia from 1968 Kind of like The Left Banke meets Simon and Garfunkel's BOOKENDS Chevy Chase was the drummer/pianist! John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 21:49:06 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: summer,pencil cases and trashy bilefilth... Message-ID: <20010904204906.61301.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> hello :) ..hmmmm... the seasons changing again...its funny how the weather creeps up on you...last week i was wandering around basking in the late august warmth like autumn was just a myth...and then *thwack*...the cold air hits you in the face as you shiver in your t-shirt at the bus stop...you know its the last time you'll feel the sunshine stroking on your arms or be able to lie in parks in the evenings running your hands through the grass as the sky turns a million different colours...i am too obsessed with the weather for my own good...it affects my mood more than is surely healthy...autumn is kind of different this year though...september doesnt bring the usual dread, the usual worry,the usual misery of the prospect of another nine months in captivity...no education to go back to for the first time in 14 years..this may of course only be temporary and my foray into *the real world* may only last a year before i retreat back to the loving bosom of eternal studenthood...but i still felt a tinge of regret as i passed WH Smiths...buying a new and ever more elaborate pencil case and rulers for the new term was probabaly about the only enjoyable thing about the whole affair..but your mind plays tricks and you find yourself missing things you never thought you would miss in a thousand years...its perhaps the easy life that i miss...exams and actually working for money were miles away from my mind ten years ago...so why, against my better judgment, am i actually missing the concept of school? perhaps thats just it...i'm missing the 'concept' of something rather than what it actually was...i've made it into something that it never was in the first place..all through their lives people are always looking to the past and regretting what they didnt do or what they've missed or how dearly they would love to go back and do it all again...and i never wanted to think like that...because you should be able to look back and think 'i had a bloody great time'...or if you're really lucky you never look back at all and just live your life at breakneck speed, never having time to reflect that second too long and bring yourself down...but then sometimes reflection is necessary to keep yourself sane..if you didnt take time to reflect on what you've done and what you've acheived then whats the point of doing it in the first place?..i guess nobody is ever truly happy with their past otherwise they wouldnt bother sticking around for today...where was i?...argh...live for today? perhaps...or maybe live for tommorow..tommorow never comes so you wont be dissapointed...oh wow i'm really lost now...my brain has just been mangled by selling danielle steel books all day...if i ever saw that woman in the street i think i would beat her over the head with one of her own appalling trashy mass produced bilefilth novels until her eyes popped out...work may have turned me into a pyschopath too...umm...i've talked rubbish for far too long... ta ta.. PS : everyone go and buy the reindeer section album...despite reviews to the contrary and the general dodgyness of collaborative affairs like this its absoloutly woooonderful :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 21:55:13 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 20:55:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: holes / dug by little moles / angry jealous spies / got telephones for eyes Message-ID: today a hedgetrimmer ripped a chunk of finger from me and now i have a big triangular flap of flesh being held down by a strip of elastoplast. and it hurt. my mother's making me drink loads of sugarry tea coz i went into shock about 4 hours after it happened going 'i could have cut my finger off!, how would i play guitar!' but django rheinhardt (sp?) got by with just 2 fingers on his left hand and he was a great guitarist, just ask john peel. ----==+#+==---- major props to jeremy and sweetie for helping an internet chat virgin to get into #sinister and huge thanks to everyone in there who were so sweet and understanding as i sat there watching 4 conversations going on past my eyes for half an hour. i may check in again tonight after i've watched the kubrick documentry on bbc2. ----==+#+==---- if anybody religiously follows my posts (well some of you might!) you'll remember i talked about the market on tynemouth metro station where i picked up some great records. i went there again on sunday morning and picked up 'green onions' by Booker T & the MGs for 75p and a 'indie top 20 volume 12' LP for �1.50 which contains a great version of 'you love us' by the manics on it which must be a demo for the song coz it has loads of weird backing vocals on it then turns into Iggy's Lust for Life at the end with a comedy "check it out" from james. and backward strings at the beginning - strange. ----==+#+==---- i might be going to see New Order at the Brixton Academy in october (don't know which show yet). someone mentioned meeting to see it, was it you? erm... ----==+#+==---- ages ago i did a lyrics quiz in the subject line. Karren, sorry i never sent you the tape i promised as a prize. i did make one honest, i sort of gave it to my ex-girlfriend coz she needed tapes for her car and it was lying around. i *will* make you another, better, one and send it to you. are you still in the uk or should i send it to your canada address? ----==+#+==---- i'll leave you on a lyric as well then CarsmileSteve gets no prizes for telling me who it is later Pez* all the yuppies getting married all the yuppies getting buried singing in this city's like singing on the prarie new york city's like a cemetary - moldy peaches www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kylaschu at xxx.com Tue Sep 4 23:59:57 2001 From: kylaschu at xxx.com (Kyla Schuller) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Exotic SF Picnic + 1 SF ticket for Saturday night Message-ID: <20010904225957.15526.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, TICKET I have 1 ticket, row G, for Saturday's SF show. Asking face value + charges, so $30. (un)lucky recipient will be able to sit next to me. PICNIC EROTICA Oops, sorry, I meant exotica. It's a good thing we're trying to plan a meet-up for strangers from out-of-state in the largest municipal park in the country. Consequently, per the Pine Fox's suggestion, all those who identify as women must come draped in brightly hued sarongs with tropical flowers perched among their locks; those who identify as men may be expected to wear their best safari khakis. Those who identify as neither or both can dress as wild game. With this small precaution, which I'm sure was the kind Pine Fox's intention all along, we shall surely stand out; a certain accomplishment in the city of San Francisco. In all seriousness, the particulars for the SF picnic exotica follow: We shall meet by Stow Lake, in the East End of Golden Gate Park, at 2:00 p.m. As the west end is the ocean, this seems a wise choice. There are many twee features of this site. It is not only the second largest lake in the city, it is adjacent to the first children's playground in America. It is also by the (free) arboreteum. Adventurous sinisterees can join me on a trek up Strawberry Hill, the island in the lake, for, naturally, the view. From this nearly 500 foot perch grand views of that bridge (fog permitting) and the skyscrapers and the park may be had. I will bring a frisbee with more than a few canine teeth marks. I'll leave the canine at home. WEATHER WARNING: SF is not California. it gets cold. sep-oct are the warmest months, and it's been hot the past 10 days, but it can be really cold and foggy. remember, layerliness is next to godliness. As for finding us: Stow Lake may be accessed by 19th Avenue at Lincoln. By MUNI, the underground subway monster, take the outbound N -Judah line from Market Street downtown, and get off at Judah and 19th. Turn right on 19th, and in two blocks you will find Lincoln. By car, take Fell Street, then take a right on Stanyan, then a left on Lincoln. Please email if you need further directions, as most seem to be from out of town. For directions on public transport, you can call MUNI at (415) 673-6864, and a real live person will kindly tell you how to get there from wherever you happen to be in the city. >From 19th and Lincoln, we will meet just beyond the junction of MLK Jr. drive and 19th. We'll be between the children's park and the lake, to the right of 19th avenue, in the grass. I'll bring some big dorky red balloons to identify us. There is a map here: http://www.sfgate.com/traveler/graphics/maps/ggpark-map_full.gif . do email with questions. my phone is 510.535.1041. i don't have one of those new-fangled transportable devices, unfortunately. i won't be checking my email saturday, but i will through friday. a lot of you are from out of the area - don't hestitate to ask me questions. apologies for the length -- kyla __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 02:19:38 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:19:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: When James met Dolly. Message-ID: <150.731a72.28c6d7aa@aol.com> WHEN JAMES MET DOLLY Bused it to..Westview avenue,Glen Hill's,Leicester. Once at said Avenue I delved in my pocket for bunch of car key's and searched for the corresponding veihicle. "O, there you are love! What a vision of early eighty's chic you are in that rather revealing faded brown" he thought, in a daze of desire. So we're together now, the dream has become reality. and to think I nearly let this beauty pass through my life,after lust by the name of V299 678 took advantage of me last week, I'm over that old slapper now tho after finding out she'd been *done* by every lad in the village. No! What me and Dolly have is love, real love. She does still let me play with Z-car but I've noticed keeps a close eye on the both of us at all times and I'm sure is a little jealous at times of her slinky lines and racey reputation. Dolly's in her prime of life, just turned twenty one and gagging for it (driving). Christened as Triumph Dolomite, she is known to friends and family as Dolly. As I said before, I think she feel's a little bit threatend by Datsun's look's, all slim and toned but shes a lively performer and that's what matters, Right? Lovely bum, too. If you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. James. car running "Basil Faulty" style (START YOU VICIOUS BASTARD!! etc....) 4,Point towards home 5,Decide 21 yo Triumph Dolomite is good fun and need's *performance testing*. 6, Brake's aren't quite good enough 7, Enter corner about 40mph to quick 8,AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGG...... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marshalltindall at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 05:35:45 2001 From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:35:45 -0600 Subject: Sinister: school, birthdays, love, death Message-ID: well tomorrow i'm back at uni (slight excitement and apprehension here, clears throat) this year i get to interact with people's children as part of my teaching degree, influencing young minds (realizes this is a bit presumptuous but rubs hands and cackles anyway) i sympathize greatly with idleberry about the guitar problems, i can play a bit but never to my liking, we should jam sometime...if i didn't live in Canada. i want a picnic too, so if anyone lives near Edmonton, Alberta (even Calgary, stupid civic rivalry) let me know and we can at least meet up for a bevvy. i am so happy that B&S are playing Vancouver i wish everybody who goes a smashing time. I however, cannot go as it is the day before my sons birthday/deathday and we are going to have a one year birthday at his graveside. I miss you very much Sebastien... a bittersweet occasion worthy of a song of there ever was one but things are not all sadness, i got engaged recently to the most wonderful person in the world (even better than struan) i would invite you all to the wedding but we want it small and i would be crushed if you all didn't show up : ) If you want wish Cordelia and i luck in your hearts, thank you if you do. this post is becoming much to long so i should go the small kind moments in between the darkness must dwell in our hearts and keep the despair not at bay but in balance Marshall "the priviledge of a lifetime is being who you are" -i forget who said it but it wasn't me! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ameliacates at xxx.net Wed Sep 5 07:56:40 2001 From: ameliacates at xxx.net (ameliacates at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 06:56:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Moving on up Message-ID: <20010905065641.NGZG1680.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hello all! i can't tell you my excitement. That after all these several weeks of reading, i am get the chance to finally send out a post of my own. A bit about myself. I'm Amelia. I live in Dallas Texas but only until Friday. I will be moving five short hours off to college then. I will be a freshman at lovely Hendrix College. THere i will begin my studies in english and whatever else i fancy. I am bit weary about the move but i keep assuring myself it will go off smashingly...Here i cross my fingers. If anyone has any advice or stories or general words of wisdom for me, i would glady recieve them. I have so much enjoyed reading all the charming posts. I really rather loved the runaway thread. Such a wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning. Such excitement. well, i'm off. Amelia +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 07:55:28 2001 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:55:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles Posse! Message-ID: <141.10f3b29.28c72661@aol.com> Hi guys, thanks to those who wrote me. It looks as though Greyhound will be our chariot of choice. I just wanted to know how many Sinisterines are going to the LA show tomorrow, and if there are any meet-ups planned? Lesley J and I are going to be there in full effect. Please email me in the next couple of hours if you have any plans to meet up with anyone else, or otherwise, look for us loitering outside the theater! Just to say hi! Well prolly be in possession of the rad B/S stickers we are going to make! What we look like: 2 girls, early 20s, one long hair, one short, one blond(ish) hair, one light brown hair, one with an army-ish satchel, the other with a godawful yellow thing with a rainbow on the side, shell prolly be wearing a ployester skirt and I could be wearing some sea green flares, but Im not sure abt that. This is starting to sound like a porno ad, isnt it? So ill stop with the scintillating descriptions and just hope to see y'all there! Whee!! Jessica +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 5 09:22:06 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:22:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Enemy Message-ID: <20010905082206.5630.qmail@web14906.mail.yahoo.com> reading the nme this morning on my way to work I realise just how bad things have got. Jesus tompaulin do not sound like belle and sebastian! they were great on saturday ( although there was some issue with Sarah Martin ) and though belle and sebastian are outright best full stop, I love tompaulin and never thought that they sound like my beloved B+S once. Last week hefner got a going over and this week tompaulin. Are starsailor really the future ??? The strokes are good fun yes! but we need bands, good ones and lots of them. It's bloody frustrating. Joxx ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zedoarejen at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 10:19:31 2001 From: zedoarejen at xxx.com (Zoran Lazic) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <20010905091931.45791.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> unsubscribe sinister ===== Kompromisa nema: ISTINA na�a je tema (general V. Mitu) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahs0 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 4 11:17:28 2001 From: ahs0 at xxx.uk (Adam uni) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:17:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: mull of kintyre...do'h Message-ID: <002e01c1352a$cdf700e0$883afea9@h5a2u0> hello all, I realise this is my second post in a week, but the novelty of being allowed to email the list hasn't worn off yet. I want to say a huge THANKYOU to kate for welcoming me onto the group, I apologise if others of you did, but I missed it. I'm glad someone else if being disheartened by a lump of wood with taught wires on it. I'm really going off my guitar! It was a classical guitar but I got really fed up of the horrible sound that the nylon strings make, so I re-strung it (ra ha ha (evil genius laugh)). It's now an acoustic. I'm trying to learn to play from a book. I can make a few chords, namley C, G, D, Em and probably one more if I tried really hard to remember it. Apparently with only three of those chords I can play mull of kintyre....can I f**k! to start with I have no idea what that song sounds like, and I change chords slower than a really slow thing who's feeling particularly slow. On the accidental advice of someone on the list, I'm going to try and find the tab for either 'boy with the arab strap' or 'womens realm', does anyone know where I can get these? probably best done off list. adam.short at ntlworld.com sorry if I've missed something really obvious. Well, needless to say I'm up for a jam if there's one going. Thanks for letting me winge sinister. Smile adam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From booga14 at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 11:43:16 2001 From: booga14 at xxx.com ('Baby face' Bambino) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:43:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: drei jagermeister und eine bratwurst bitte Message-ID: Hi Sinisterians, I've just returned from a holiday in central Europe. Really enjoyed my visit to Prague. It's very beautiful. One night I lay exhausted in my hostel dormitory bed, having spent most of the day walking around the city's enormous National Gallery. I was just relaxing and listening to the Badly drawn boy album (The Hour Of Bewilderbeast) that my sister had kindly leant me. As I lay there, a moth fluttered in through the open window and started moving towards the light. I was expecting the usual pitiful scenario where the moth tries to go to the light, and despite burning it's little wings on the bulb, desparately tries again and again. However the hostel light consisted of several fluorescent bulbs with a protective cover, so the moth was able to quite happily flutter accross and sit inverted on the light. To my weary eyes, it even looked like he danced a little celebratory jig after touching down. The accompanyment of this delightful spectacle with such beautiful music filled me with happiness. Hope y'all don't mind me sharing the moment with you. Nicorettes and Anusol, Tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wffej at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 16:14:40 2001 From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:14:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i have extra seattle and portland tix Message-ID: hello, i have 1 extra portland and 1 extra seattle ticket, both for what i paid forem, portland 1950 plus a reasonable 550 service charge, and 22 plus 5 fer the seattle, so just email me and ill getem to ya- [[[[jeffff]]]] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 19:52:37 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:52:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: a warning here: there are no jokes here. no fun here. just stuff about a picnic in edinburgh here. this is not a regular post here. Message-ID: <20010905185237.66624.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> okay. we need some: okay. now more than ever. so. okay. here is the new and FINAL outline [it's an outline] for the edinburgh picnic. I am allowed room to tweak. if necessary. tweaking isn't a bad thing. it's just another way of saying refining. so. it was bowling. now it isn't. it was botanic gardens. very briefly. now it isn't. it was almost the meadows. but it's not. it's princes street gardens. reasoning [don't read this if you like to just have faith in other peoples' judgement]: there's grass. benches too. if you like those. there's a sheltering part up towards princes street. there's, like, a big monument and some big galleries and a big castle 'n' that around. there are nice pubs up on rose street. all of this requires no bussing and not a fantastical amount of walking. but walking's good. princes street gardens. you can eat. you can drink. you can smoke. you can talk. you can have dogs. these are requirements. the waverley station at two p.m. on saturday the fifteenth of september, two thousand and one. in case that's confusing: WHERE: the bit outside whsmith's in waverley station. WHEN: 2 p.m., 15/09/2001. I'm less confused now. meet us there and then. or. phone one of the numbers at the end of this post and ask the person who answers to tell you where the bloody hell they are. and they should. do that. how you will find people in this waverley: look for a group of mildly twee looking people shying away from each other and from everyone else. and stand next to them. and shy away from them. and everyone else. we will proceed to an as yet undecided spot in the gardens. I'll decide soon. and you'll know in advance. and we'll sit down. probably. most of us. and eat the food we brought and drink the drink we brought and smoke the cigarettes we brought and talk up the thoughts we brought and pet the dog we brought. ahem. if it rains. we'll head up to the sheltering and finish our food and drinks and stuff. or just head straight to a pub. a specific pub hasn't been selected yet. I'll do that too. so. I know of quite a few people who have said they will be in attendance. there are some coming from other countries! even! well. yeah. so. but. you don't need to know anyone else. you can just show up. and people will do their best to make you feel welcome. and we'll have fun. right? hopefully it'll be a VERY NICE DAY. yeah. I suppose that's it. for now. any questions. please do e-mail me. I get quite lonely. okay, richard. TELEPHONE NUMBERS: william salt [will]: 07990575869 sweetie sweet [sweetie]: 07940316821 ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 20:14:32 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:14:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I worship the quicksand you walk on Message-ID: Should I post? Should I be good? Astound Sinister with my revealing blazer and faustus hood? Not talk of artsy movies but of cemeteries Name check Will Porter and all the preliminaries Tell about parkway picnics and rash roadtrips To only flush and fret over my freudian slips When I introduce myself to the list -prosaic prose, grieving over grammar, strangling spellcheck - should I pretend to be twee - liking "Hello Kitty" being sure not to mention The Pixies? How else to feel other than I am, falling in love with dead poets who always turn up gay.. O how terrible it must be for a young girl writing to strangers and the strangers thinking We've never seen her before! Who is this Llew? After choking down the words they think "To meet all of my Ll needs, what would she have to do?" My hokey, I can't forget THE BAND! Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie This song being my biography is easy to admit to But how do I confess to me & Dirty Dream #2? And the foxes! Pine, ginger - all in the snow Completing epics on, who in the world?, Lloyd Cole? It takes more than THAT to make sense of the day Does it really take more than milk to get rid of the taste? So much to do! Like sneaking into Honey's castle late at night to cover her tea cups with 1920 Norwegian books like pasting Dorothy Parker postage stamps all over the Community Chest (Community Chest being St. Lucy?) (Naughty indeed.) Pretending to be a kitty and kissing Maddie's ankles Stumbling to the Boy with the Thorn in his Ley, fumbling over what to say Arguing with Dave that he doesn't really exist Grabbing Arik, while whirling "There are unfavorable omens in the sky! Leave New York Behind! Remember our September with the butterflies?" And what happens when a boy does come - breamsing from the sea I look down, blush, wondering if they even really know me Oh, when the millkmaid hides just leave her a note in the bottle Penguin dust, bring me penguin dust, I want penguin dust! ...And a show in my bedroom... O what would that be like! Surely I'd give B&S my bookcase for a stage Where Isobel could croon of her bottled up rage And in my bed I would snuggle up with... Struan! How did he get there?!?! No... I'll never be that kind of girl No venue; no quiet cuddle Only living with my family still a Reichian sister screeching over a channel change - Spolied Brat! Only worse at the shop with nose running brats in love with Pokemon Their mothers uncaring, all toothless and dry haired like those hag masses of the 18th century telling their children to forget books and just watch TV Teary eyed grandmothers telling me how their sons are finally fertile Leaving me trying not stare to see how tight the man's pants are Impossible to lie back and dream of Bedroom shows, ghost appearances No! I should not post! I should never post! But - imagine if I were a beautiful sophisticated woman tall and pale wearing an elegant black dress and long black gloves holding a cigarette holder in one hand and a highball in the other flying to London or Edinburgh for business trips though living high up in a penthouse with a huge window from which I could see all of New York and even farther on clearer days No, I can't imagine myself writing from that pleasant dream I would have parties to give and boys to charm I'll content myself with Tin Tin socks and hopeless crushes Not thinking about love... O but what about love? Should I mention love? It's not that I am incapable of love (Though I am a Spinistereen with Cupid in the dungeon) It's just that I see love as odd as drinking Ribena I always thought I didn't want to end up as my mother - married with a family; with nothing but endless work - However when I thought I was rid of her, there was the mirror "I want to meet the person who came across manure in a field, saw mushrooms and thought to put it in their mouth." Or telling my father, "Just keep porking it down, fat boy." I couldn't ever really be part of a couple, could I? There's maybe a boy for me now but he's too well read for me And not even librarians don't like me and - but there's got to be somebody! What if I'm 60 years old and still spending 15 minutes clocking posts? Alone in a car with the only words of love coming from a scratched tape Couldn't a mix tape be as well as love? But I should be post I should be good Astounding Sinister with my revealing blazer and faustus hood. Laura Llew "meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977" I figured if Gregory Corso could still Jack Kerouac's girlfriend, then I could steal and twist his words. Of all the poets who I wished were dead upon reading their works - he wasn't one of them. Sadly, he didn't take my thoughts into account (as is typical with boys) and passed away earlier this year. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 20:56:12 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:56:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: I don't see what anyone else could see in anyone else Message-ID: <120.429bb32.28c7dd5c@aol.com> I'll admit that it felt kind of good in a horrible way to feel the tears rolling down my cheeks with my eyes closed, knowing that the other people could see, but would never do or say anything. I did try not to cry, but in the end maybe I was being selfish, wanting people to see. I shouldn't have put the lucksmiths on my headphones. But that was my fault. I put them on anyway. I kept forcing myself to remember the week. Remember down to the memory of the smallest touch. The panic of thinking I would never get there. Trying my damndest not to have to use an airplane bathroom. About an hour after the time on the ticket, I was falling over my luggage in Gatwick. Peter looked more wonderful than ever and his dad had a friendly smile. He took my luggage and left Peter and I to wander about London. The parks in London are lovely, and the picnics even lovelier. I met nice people like BenApps and Rob and Sam Walton vaguely reminded me of Oscar the grouch. The train ride home was very long, then the taxi driver seemed intent on putting the fear of death into us. No matter because once I arrived at the Carter home all was loveliness from that point until the end of my stay. It was the most comfortable week of my life. Unfortunate that it had to end with the airport misshaps that Peter related. So I'm at college now and it's the second day of classes. My freshman year. I'm thinking that the two shocks to my system have sort of cancelled eachother out. So thanks to all the very nice people at the picnic for being very nice, especially BenApps because he is verry nice and is going to send me music. And Kenchu because he agreed to adopt me. Adoptive daddy, I want a Zebra. Will you buy me one? Love and functional public transport, Kara Jean* yeah er, no content exactly. Oh, I'm listening to TBWTAS now. I hadn't in a while. I like it so. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kelly_wurtz at xxx.com Wed Sep 5 22:44:38 2001 From: kelly_wurtz at xxx.com (Kelly Wurtz) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:44:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: 2 tix for Thurs. LA show Message-ID: Hello, I have two extra GA tickets for the Thursday LA show. I'm asking face value plus ticketmaster stuff. Please email me off-list at kwurtz at weber.ucsd.edu. Sorry for any list-abuse. :) Thanks! -Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NotATrendxX at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 03:35:39 2001 From: NotATrendxX at xxx.com (NotATrendxX at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:35:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship Message-ID: <106.52df490.28c83afb@aol.com> I finally swept all of my courage into a tiny pile on the side of my desk when it chose to manifest itself in this post. Blame that if anything goes wrong. Since the pile is so small this will be quite short. Well it is more likely to be short because I haven't much to say. My courage has been whisked away by the circumstances of the night. I'll be back when I've rebuilt it. I know you're excited. I apologize for the lack of content. I did have something to say. I lost it. Goodnight Alice. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 04:36:37 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: please see the lucksmiths(UK people) In-Reply-To: <106.52df490.28c83afb@aol.com> Message-ID: <20010906033637.80417.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Hello sinister people. Ok I am not from the uk...but i am urging anybody who is residing there to see the lucksmiths. I know they have little to do with belle and sebastian, outside of being a twee band that is very very very good. They are from Australia, and unlike belle and sebastian they toured the entire united states coast to coast, even in some pretty obscure places, and some very small venues. Of course they are only a band of three. They are playing a few dates with a elephant six band called essex green that is also very good. They used to have a few members in the touring band for ladybug transistor. Ok I am writing this as a fan, not as a promoter. I think the indie pop people in the uk would be missing out if they did not see the lucksmiths, that includes the sinister people....mainly because i love the lucksmiths for the same reasons i love B&S, lyrical wit and beauty, and simply great music. UK Tour Dates for the lucksmiths. Wed Oct 3rd - Bitterscene Club at The Bassment, Chelmsford Fri Oct 5th - The Point, Oxford w/The Essex Green, Airport Girl and The Relationships Sat Oct 6th - Strange Fruit Club, The Spitz, London w/ The Essex Green and Airport Girl Fri 12th Oct - Strangeways club, Leeds with Airport Girl Sunday Oct 21st - La Guingette Pirate, Paris w/Essex Green Saturday Oct 27th - The Bull and Gate, London w/Airport Girl, Slipslide & Partition Thursday Nov 1nd - Purr Club, Moles, Bath So see the lucksmiths. unless you already know about this. Ok something relitive to the list. WHY the hell are people getting rid of B&S tickets. I would kill to see them, maybe not kill, but maybe do something silly. I wish i had a story, but to be honest, right now my academic stress does not allow me writing interesting letters. Maybe I need to listen to tigermilk again. actually this has very little relevance. Chris P> ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars The fog and the sunlight overshadow what is really the point sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Thu Sep 6 06:56:00 2001 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 01:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Mark how her turning shoulders wind the hours Message-ID: When boys (grown men!) express a fondness for the fifties, like over at scrubbles (his collection of Campus Cuties, the Eames furniture, tupperware), or the novelty tunes EJL plays on Dragnet, I think that they must be their mother's sons. And sometimes they're not even old enough! I'm thinking of tomorrow night when I'll go to see B & S with my sister and her husband. I don't think I'll be able to explain. Of course, he has heard them before. Maybe it just means I don't know him well enough. For some, the bond isn't as obvious. Maybe Stuart is like that. (Would it explain the splinter of ice in his heart?) I don't think I gave enough credit to the surprise ending to The Hours, when it turns out that his life's work was not about Clarissa, but about his mother. The way it expands upon the doubts expressed in her own work, which are smoothed over there, or borne aloft by a swell of feminine fortitude (her admiration of Austen). But he is less engaging. I can't find the page now, the one I first flipped to before reading the book. It was about the different expectations men and women have of each other and the different needs that are filled. Or more concretely, the difference in a kiss. I guess it's the opposite of the tension in No Exit. What would make her complete under all that jauntiness? (I think it's the first time she has written anything like that.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From borokitty at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 10:37:27 2001 From: borokitty at xxx.com (Amy Skelton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:37:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Family Tree Stretches out to Alicante Message-ID: Hello all, Well now that I'm finally writing my first post I guess I should let you know some of my background.... I'm from Middlesbrough originally but I am currently studying at Sheffield University. As well as goiing to lots of gigs, I also enjoy going hiking (which I do as often as I can) and kayaking (rivers, surf and canoe polo although I could do with some more paddle sport practice generally). I also do conservation volunteer work. Well, I'm into all sorts of things but I don't want to go on for ages! I'm really excited this morning because I've just booked a last minute flight to go and visit my eldest brother in Alicante where he has been living for just under a year. If anyone on the list lives in the city itself, or the surrounding area and fancies meeting up, I'll be there from 8th - 15th September (let me know off list). Also, if anybody has visited the city and has any suggestions of where to go/not go these would also be greatly appreciated. My brother will be at work some of the time so I'll have to find things to do myself. I know that there are a few festivals on while I am staying there so I'll have to go and see what they are like, and visit different waterfalls and.... (this is where you lovely listees come in). Anyway, as I said before I'll be back in England on the 15th September so I am still keen to come to the Manchester picnic on the Sunday. If anybody could let Big Stu and I have some floor space on the Saturday night we would like to come to Smile (if it is on) as well. Any offers? Right, I'll have to go and exchange some money... ...Amy P.S. I did type this all once before but the computer crashed and didn't save my message as a draft properly! So sorry if some of this doesn't read that well - typing things for the second time is always annoying. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu Sep 6 12:18:48 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:18:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s announce japanese dates Message-ID: <027201c136c7$7f667f20$9426fea9@katrina> hi all, Just to let you know the band have confirmed their forthcoming japanese tour, the dates are as follows: Monday Nov 12th - Osaka, Zepp Tuesday Nov 13th - Nagoya, Diamond Hall Wednesday Nov 14th - Tokyo, Blitz Thursday Nov 15th - Tokyo, Blitz Monday Nov 19th - Fukuoka, Drum Logos Tickets will go on sale from the 29th of September at the price of 6,000 Yen each in advance. Details of where to buy tickets from can be found at http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news.html cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 14:23:40 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:23:40 Subject: Sinister: The Onion-- Harry Potter story Message-ID: Glasgow, Scotland-- In a surprising press conference today, Harry Potter announced that he will be singing on Belle and Sebastian's newest album release. The young wizard from Hogwarts School declared himself a "huge fan" of the fey Scottish octet. "They play all sorts of crazy instruments- like the electric sitar and the hammond organ," declares the young obsessed fictional character. His knowledge of the band goes far beyond the range of what a normal fan should know. "Isobel has her own band called Gentle Waves but thats an album that Colin Creevy would like." Colin Creevy couldn't be reached for an interview, but Harry's bookish friend, Hermione Granger, discussed her thoughts on Harry's obsession. "Harry thinks I would like Belle and Sebastian because they read narrative over some of their songs. I haven't quite told him that they're reading from 'Curses and Spells Volume Three' yet. I'm still secretly solving the mystery, which will surely get me into trouble, but I'll tell you that Stuart Murdoch is not a good little Christian. Just listen to the lyrics of Century of Elvis- actually, don't! You might turn into a frog." When asked about the origin of his obsession for Belle and Sebastian, Potter said, "Look at me! I wear indie glasses. I'm shy and socially distant from my peers. I grew up in an abusive home with parents who didn't understand my capabilities. I fly on a broom and try to catch a flying golden sphere. How could I NOT be a fan of Belle and Sebastian?" Harry Potter can be heard on Belle and Sebastian's newest E.P. "Duets", which will feature other various actors and artists such as Angelina Jolie (married to Billy Bob Thornton), Jack Black (High Fidelity), and Bashful (the dwarf). Potter has no plans to release a solo album, but if gameskeeper Hagrid get his way- grunge will make a comeback and Harry will be the next Curt Cobaine. "Not bloody likely," the young wizard smiles, "not bloody likely at all." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 17:10:57 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:10:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: LA Show Review & Setlist Message-ID: <006e01c136ee$83dd0160$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Well..... my cherry's busted. I've seen them. And met Stuart. He was easy like Sunday morning. The show was incredible, like hearing all your favorite songs one after another right in front of your face. The sound was almost perfect. Stuart was adorable in his red tartan scarf, which he said was mourning for Scotland who got kicked outa the world cup. He also said he went to see our LA Dodgers on Sunday (he's a big baseball fan, he kept talking about baseball after the show). He also asked if there was anyone famous in the audience. He hadn't seen any celebrities yet in California and really wanted to spot one. Stevie said "if Guns n' Roses is out there, c'mon up and we'll jam" and Stuart, who was only half listening, said "WHO??" like he really thought Stevie was inviting someone up. Stevie was SO cute and looked so shy while singing Jonathan David. And Isobel's voice was magnificent. And the trumpet player was dead-on. And was that Sarah next to Isobel? Why, she looks like a wee child! (except for the chest, of course.) And yes, I did indeed meet Stuart after the show, he stood talking to us for about an hour, and posing for photos, and signing things.... he's funny and un-shy and nice nice nice. He said they'd go to New York next year, he really has his mind set on playing Radio City Music Hall.... He said no, they didn't hate LA like the rumor says.... He said Isobel was kinda freaked out, being in a new country, nervous cos it's the first night, said "she'll smile a lot more as the tour progresses" (it's true about her bum by the way).... and he said a lot of other stuff. Want a setlist? Let me know if I left anything out: Le Pastie Simple Things Family Tree I Fought In A War Legal Man The Model My Wandering Days Are Over Slow Graffiti There’s Too Much Love Women’s Realm The Wrong Girl Jonathan David My Girl’s Got Miraculous Technique The Magic of a Kind Word The State I Am In You Made Me Forget My Dreams The Boy With The Arab Strap He brought 6 people from the audience to dance onstage to Legal Man. Everyone was booing them out of jealousy. Jonathan Richman was wonderful, as usual. I'm still floating. And I get to see them tonight as well. What have I done to deserve this?? ~See you tonight. Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Thu Sep 6 21:42:18 2001 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:42:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Burn, baby, burn Message-ID: <20010906204218.64024.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com> The plane taxied along the runway under the vast Colorado sky. When the pilot announced the result of the football match (British Airways was only interested in the England game, I still don't know how Scotland fared), we cheered loudly. The middle aged couple between me and the aisle were in no hurry, so I looked through the window at the approaching army of vans and trucks looking to finish their turnaround duties quickly. Eventually, a gap in the queue. I stood up and reached into the overhead locker. Suddenly, from the woman in front, "oh my God, something's on fire!" I looked. No flame, only thick, acrid smoke. We didn't hurry, we just watched, as if the window was a television screen, but then the stewardesses started shepherding us with fraught voices. Now, we moved quickly. An elderly lady couldn't keep up, began to whimper, began to cry, high pitched, panicky. Half way up the walkway to the terminal building was a window. This time I saw flames, thirty feet high. I didn't stick around. Long queues for immigration, and gossip. "I took a few photos, not sure how they'll come out" "There was a guy rolling around in the flames, he looked like a stunt man" Our luggage wasn't coming. I took my handbag and duty free to the hotel, laid into the minibar and fell naked into bed. Awaking too early from fitful sleep, I switch on CNN and there we are. The stunt man is in intensive care, 90% of his body burnt to the third degree. Walmart, for some clean clothes, then the office. "You were on that plane? I saw it on TV - that's so cool!" Looking forward to being Mandee's first Sinisterine tomorrow. Might need a drink or two. Juicy Lucy ===== We're going out! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/london-indie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mikesjobeck at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 00:14:37 2001 From: Mikesjobeck at xxx.com (Mikesjobeck at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 19:14:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Thank god for mental illness... Opening Night of the tour... Message-ID: <65.1a55c4d6.28c95d5d@aol.com> Its beyond me how in the span of 3 days the usually ego-centric/smoggy/horrid stench what is Los Angeles could be so completely transformed into a whimsical paradise of free-love and uncommon serenity!!! :) Even as I drove the freeways in a panic stricken urgency, so as to be positive I would not miss one single 1/8th of a note! Lanes were opening up before me:) A cheerful old lady in her 1975 ford granata waved to me and gave me the thumbs up sign! And simultaneously an expanse of purplish twilight extended itself so peacefully out over the whole of Southern California as my car stereo was blasting out a trail blaze collage, of belle and sebastians greatest hits!!! (Volumes 1996-2001) Honestly!!! there REALLY was something so un-imaginably beautiful in the air before the show:) And what a SHOW!!!!! So many smashing HITS!!! a showcase of everlastingly clever LYRICS!!!! And sensational strings and brass to perfectly embellish it all!!!! just LOVELY!!!!! I'll admit it though, the band were just a wee bit nervous at times or even star-struck perhaps??? But the soul of the performance shone through the whole while, ever so genuinely and touching:) My friend, Anton Newcombe (singer of the brianjonestown massacre) had a slightly more critical ear remarking that they shoud not of used any pre-recordings but in the end agreed it was all so extraordinary and spectacular!!! (swags off of the whisky and gin bottles) (crouching down for long drags and up like a fire breathing dragon) I'll rate it like this >>> Lighting and stage A+ Sound and Performance A- volume could have used a little boost but the dynamics were dead aim!!! Dancing A+ just FAB!!! and FUNNY too:) Song Selection??? Suspiciously enough one of the greatest records of the 20th century was slighted and ignored!!! :/ Luckily enough, their material is so vast and brilliant one hardly even noticed this, except for me mum!! she was quite frankly, un-rully!!! when they darely had the nerve to pass over her most beloved "the fox in the snow" :( =s >>> A- Cheer up mum! You know theres always Brazil and Japan!?!?!? Oh!!!! but It was truely a wonder for me to finally after all these years get a chance to hear and see the greatest band in the universe!! (sorry Anton) ok,ok,ok the 2nd GREATEST band in the universe!!!! Indeed, I SIMPLY LOVED it:):):):):):):) For everybody involved in the Westcoast "pic a nics" I extend my hand in gratitude and look very much forward to meeting you all in person and of course the games:) Especially the Angelina Jolie look alike pinata bash!!! :p and whatever else there is?? Leap Frog?? Frisbee?? Freezetag?? Croquette?? "Futball"?? Hardboiled colourful egg toss?? Oh, its fun to be a kid again:) Cheers Ian!!!! And have fun at the show tonight... Le pastie de la bourgeoise!!!!! And to everyone else in "Sinister Land" all the best smiles... Mike +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnobrega at xxx.net Fri Sep 7 02:06:53 2001 From: jnobrega at xxx.net (Juliano Nobrega) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:06:53 -0300 Subject: Sinister: New single out Oct 23 Message-ID: Hello all, just got this the Matador Records newsletter: "Matador will be releasing the new Belle & Sebastian single, "The Season Has Arrived" on October 23, followed shorty afterwards by the soundtrack CD to the forthcoming Todd Solodz film 'Storytelling.'" Anyone have more on this? Track list? Reviews on the song? Has this song been played live yet? Well, that's about it for now. And keep sending those live reviews from USA. Anyone got pics? Cheers Juliano +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Fri Sep 7 02:04:03 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:04:03 +0300 Subject: Sinister: this kind of weather has me wanting love more tangible Message-ID: <006501c13738$fd678240$7afacdd4@q2x8k0> Autumn came in Thessaloniki today -or at least it looks like it. Summer here is endless and rather yellow, and had I prayed for it to end. Much as I had dreamed of it, autumn still came unexpectedly. Crept up on us, as Desmond Tropey says. Yesterday I spent walking around the city and visiting various people. Avoiding studying. As I walked to the bus stop, I noticed the sun was a bit paler. I spent noon at someone's terrace looking at the port and the cranes in the horizon, and talking about travelling, and about fears. I had lunch with someone's mother. By that time, some pretty grey clouds had gathered, and it was windy. Windy is my favourite weather. Dreamy. Feels kind of like travelling. I sat next to an open window trying to write an email but all I could do was look at the sky. It looked as if it wouldn't rain though; and then, after it got dark, there was a downpour. I welcomed the rain sitting on yet another balcony watching the wee devils that are my cousins screaming and jumping up and down. This morning it was sunny again and it seemed as we'd have to wait a bit more for autumn, but then, as night fell, it got chilly! Autumn makes things look clearer, and brighter; thus more colourful and charming. So I avoid studying, I indulge in the changing of the season. this time of year, all feelings are more intense. Heart-breaking, almost. Happy is happier, and sad is more sad -and they alternate every half an hour or so. Sleeping feels like entering another world. Lonely feels a bit lonelier. It's something in the air around me, on my skin. Excited is almost inspired. Day dreaming is almost like being there. Missing is like you've lost a part of you. Kind of. I was lying on my bed, looking at the back of the -quite ugly- buildings I can see through my window, (avoiding studying of course) and listening to the Smiths, as night was falling. And it almost made me cry. I wish I could come to that picnic. Well, love, and keep the faith, (especially those who will go) Dimitra ps I thought I would acknowledge the one who was the reason behind me discovering Bright Eyes, to whom the subject line belongs, but then again maybe I should write a Richard-free post for once... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mikesjobeck at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 10:15:02 2001 From: Mikesjobeck at xxx.com (Mikesjobeck at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 05:15:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Update on 2nd show... A wanderer plays on muted stings.... Message-ID: <11.1a446237.28c9ea16@aol.com> Dimetra!!!! That was such a heart felt post:) It brought me very close to your world you know? you were like a stranded angel so seemingly untouchable and from an alltogether far off separate planet... Ah! and how many of us too i wonder, love these scottish scarf wearing days...? These Autumnal late summer gusts of wind and daisies....? shimmeringly cold and starsprinkled nights....? Staring into outerspace while listening to The smiths "there is a light and it never goes out"....? Magic.....:) OH!!! But I must tell you sinisteree's very briefly That the 2nd show which ended just a little while ago was even BETTER than the opening one!!! They mixed it up brilliantly!!!!! :) even played "the fox in the snow" as well as "like dylan in the movies" both mesmerizing and full with passionate artistry and just the right amount of melancholy... I was wholeheartedly STUNNED and reduced only to pure uplifting emotion!! or as Marilyn Monroe once said "I felt goose pimpily all over" :):):):):):):):) 5 or 6 differnt songs than the first night!!! including "dog on wheels" And "dirty dream #2" you have to understand how rare this is for a band to perform in such manner as having an entirely different set after only one night!!!!! Oh, but then again its "Belle and Sebastian" Tonight =s A+ across the board!!! They even handed out a fucking baseball to a teary eyed lass who sang "take me out to the ballgame" Okay!!! Truely amazing songs performed tonight kids, so for anyone going to all the remaining shows this is like gold dust!!!! And now I've collected two nights worth....:) Do yourselves a favour folks! Sell the car the bike the trike the telly>>> WHATEVER!!! and make the dream real!!!! make it real.... (:and take Dimetra with you:) Carpe Diem!!! Mike +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Fri Sep 7 11:51:20 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:51:20 Subject: Sinister: The Art Of Forming A Band - and the trouble that it brings. Message-ID: <155842526@spray.se> Hi! First of all, I hope that all of you sinisteree´s who are or already have seen B&S had or will have a great time! I am dead jelaous, but I won´t sit here feeling sorry for myself, I should be grateful that they tour at all. I could just sit around and sulk, because I´m only 15, but I chose not to, it´s not that fun you know. Last night, at the youth club, me and three of my friends, Kine, Anna and Indra decided to form a band. We had just been down in the rehearsal room and just acted really strange, i.e Kine standing screaming as loud as she managed to, me playing pretendguitar and screaming along, Anna sitting on an amp looking bored and Indra behind the drumkit hitting the drumsticks against eachother. It was dead strange, but quite fun. We were about to call ouselves the incompetent bears. Why, you may wonder. I have no idea. Kine just screamed it, on swedish. Haha. But today, one of the girls in a twin couple that have just started our school said that she could play the bass, which we thought was grate. But then, she said "Well, my sister, Sofia, she´s magnificent on guitar! She can do all these cool riff´s and stuff!" and the others said like "Well, bring her!". But then, guitar is my instrument, and sure, you can have two guitarists in a band, I don´t mind, but then, I want to be the better one, not the one in the background strumming chords. I can´t take barchords, especially not f or fm, and I am now scared to bits that they won´t think I´m good enough. And our bassist, Emma, said like "Well, I´ve got some lyrics" and it was about a blind rabbit or something, in swedish, and I think it was like.. punk she wanted us to play... PUNK! I can´t play PUNK!! I want to play silly and lovely pop, not PUNK. I am scared of pun! i just can´t play punk. I know that Anna don´t want to play punk either, but then, Indra and Kine want to, i think. They seemed quite enthusiastic about it. I feel quite bad about it - I don´t think that I´m that good on guitar, and, It´s embarrassing, and I´ve never been in a band before, and stuff like that. Emma and Sofia had been in a band called Ass-sweat before, and that seems like a typical punkband. Eeek. Help me, older and wiser sinisteree´s, for I am truly confused and afraid that I won´t be able to play the music I want to, and that they will think that I´m really bad. Ah, I´m rpbably just being silly, but I don´t want ot disappoint anyone. Ok, so Indra can´t play the drums yet, Kine´s voice ain´t that good, and Anna can´t play anything (she´s supposed to play the tambourine I think) and then Emma, sure, she can play bass. I wanted this to start out as just being with your friends and trying to come up anything, not starting directly really hardcore. Oh, Sorry for this stupid post, but being 15 and confused isn´t that easy. Take care, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Sep 7 12:31:19 2001 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:31:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: if you are on your late twenties and serving lattes... Message-ID: Hello all: Should I introduce myself once again? So long, no seen.There is really few faces still active around who could recognize my stabs into English grammar.La LLew's (take the La as a fancy nickname, or take it as a recognition of diva status, do as you want)reversion of hipsters' poems prompted me to send me something, fifteen minutes ruling or not. Genevieve's wondrous spirit got materialized for some lucky individuals up the border. Ufff, that sentence sounds like Genevieve was the Virgin Mary. Well, one needs a similar degree of faith to believe there was actually such a fantastic creature growing up and rowing in lakes and attending some secondary school. The Llew myth has not reached similar levels yet, though it arises a similar sensation of disbelief. She is in fact a perfectly happy housewife in her fifties who got fed up of sipping frozen mint tea at the porch and discovered the Internet. Sure she adored 'The Bell Jar' and 'On the road' and this and that in her teens during the 50s, then she got to college and became a teacher and married that guy who was waiting for her somewhere and had four children she reared successfully and now she is in need to fill hours in her early retirement playing literary games with dazed and confused twenty-somethings populating this snobby island. So, going back to my subject. If after 8.5 years in higher education one is quite happy to start serving cappucinos in some anti-Starbucks cybercafe, something must be going wrong in one's life. Or mind, but aren't they both the same? I'll do my best about the soundtrack played in the background,at least. Belle and Sebastian did vanish from my own soundtrack-to-the-late-events-of-my-life,Ladytron were the latest replacement, but the Strokes have come in handy for an adrenaline supply. Urban and angry and fast. The Who are making UNCUT's cover and we will all be wearing black.That has to be good. x Arantxa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 15:08:40 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:08:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: In the bored room the quiet girl takes a second to think what to do Message-ID: Oh Sinisters, a beautiful thing is happening.. It's more beautiful than a David Hasselhoff gig uniting East and West Berlin together at the falling of The Wall. It's Belle and Sebastian joining a somewhat jaded 'creative' agency in Friday afternoon matrimony. Suddenly the stereo is attracting a crowd previously only gathered around shop-bought birthday cakes and annual reviews. Something for everyone as the lyrics emerge; an Art Director picks up on 'I'll go and play with words and pictures', while the office himbo hangs his self-conscious head to 'looking at the working week through the eyes of a gigilo'. This must be what it feels like to be God. Having read Brier's (hope that's the right credit) post earlier, I'm a wee bit worried about Stuart & co. Sounds like they might be frightened in such a big country with no Irn Bru or Gregg's sausage rolls to remind them of home. (sniff) I hope they come back soon. SO there's no content to this, but I agree with everyone who has commented on the quality of posts recently. To hang with content! My official salute goes to Madeline for her evocative description of a walk into town. Keys in one hand, fag in the other - it's the ultimate defence system. Take care after dark, Miss Ho the Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 16:04:26 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:04:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't stop me on the rum just because it makes me numb Message-ID: Hi lovely sinister-type people. My bestest friend seen struan at an Ayr Utd football game about a month ago and stuart seen that he was wearing B&S badges and laughed and said hello to him, from now on im going to go to all the Ayr games to see if i can spot him. I wonder if he'd still talk to people now or is he a bona fide rock celebrity because of that angelina jolie business :) I love how the music press talks about B&S, its grate. I don't really understand NME's animosity towards them though. I did a few personality tests on the internet recently and wouln't you know it im an idealist,a dreamer with his head in the clouds.Im also intelligent,loving and shy but have dependency issues. I think personality tests are grate. My idea is that at parties instead of akward small talk to get to know people everyone should carry cards which have what their personality is like and they could hand them about. It would save a lot of time. Doesn't everyone think Jenowl's grate? I do! i think we should have some sort of sinister awards or honour roll and Jenowl could get a big trophy that has one of those ribena berry things made of solid gold with amethyst (is that the purple jewel thingy?) eyes. I wish i could go to the american gigs, i think it would be fun if they did a cover of "Summer Nights" from the film Grease.Isobel could do the saccharine Olivia Newton-John part and Stevie could do the deep Travolta bit and then random members could do the "tell me more, tell me more". That would make me laugh. Im off to Blackpool on Saturday with my girl-friend which is great but i need to make sure i don't get drunk and tell her how much i love her. Isn't semi-requited love just the worst? :( Life's still grate though because now i have a lot of rare B&S stuff on mp3,i love Rhoda and Lord Anthony, even though the sound quality of Lord Anthony is really dire. Ill go now and leave you in peace but before i forget i need to jump on the bandwagon - Ken Chu, Ken Chu, Ken Chu! Danny xxx "If its not love then its the bomb that will bring us together" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 17:28:30 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:28:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Los Angeles #2 Message-ID: <00fe01c137ba$21ab3e40$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Hi Kids, Well.... it's all over. Anticipation replaced by memories. Show #2 was *almost* as good as the first one. After neglecting to play anything from the Sinister LP the first night, they busted out THREE songs from it last night. And their cover of "Creeque Alley" by The Mamas & The Papas was definately the highlight for me. If you don't know the song, find it & listen to it, then imagine B&S doing it, smiling, trading verses. Magical. Setlist: Sleep The Clock Around I Know Where The Summer Goes The Boy With The Arab Strap Family Tree Legal Man Simple Things There’s Too Much Love Women’s Realm The Wrong Girl Jonathan David The Magic of a Kind Word Dog On Wheels Fox In The Snow If You’re Feeling Sinister Creeque Alley (The Mamas & The Papas) Dirty Dream #2 Don’t Leave The Light On Baby Like Dylan In The Movies If i've forgotten any, let me know. Or we could ask our loveable little Rachel Cornflake, who was at the very frontest front row, peering up Isobel's dress. Maybe she stole a setlist. Anyway, seeing the band changes everything. To put some faces to the music really makes it even more personal. Stevie is the *BEST*. I *love* Stevie. He's so damn cute, and when he sings without his guitar (as in Jonathan David) he looks so shy & slightly awkward. The nearest I can explain is: Stuart is Ferris Bueller, and Stevie is his friend Cameron. And the trumpet sounded perfect. It was amazing really, listening to the trumpet: every note sounded exactly like it came right off the record. I guess there's only so many sounds a trumpet can make, but it sounded perfect. And Sarah really does look like a little kid, I thought she was Isobel's niece or something, that it was some kind of "take your daughter to work" day, but i wish she sang "Waiting For The Moon To Rise" and had her moment in the spotlight. And Isobel's voice, I used to think there was a certain amount of studio trickery to make it sound so sweet & sugary, but there it is in person, man..... there it is. Breathy and sticky, like a warm erotic secret whispered in your ear by the hot breath of a lover. Wonderful. I hope everyone got to meet Stuart after the show. He's nicer than you can imagine. And if anyone knows the girl who got pulled onstage to sing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame", or know someone who knows her, I *might* have some photos of her up there. And at the end of the evening, Stuart promised us that he'd be back soon, "It won't take us another 6 years." So that's reassuring. Although a year is still a long time in pop music. Floating...... ~Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 18:41:16 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 7 Sep 2001 18:41:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List abuse, of course Message-ID: <20010907174116.11584.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From whytey1982 at xxx.com Fri Sep 7 19:27:49 2001 From: whytey1982 at xxx.com (Danny Farrell's Sidekick) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:27:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: First Post (including an EXCLUSIVE story about my friend) Message-ID: Introduction I am Alan Whyte, this is my first post, though I've been on Sinister for about a year. I enjoy reading the posts, but can't be bothered/don't have time to post (I am very lazy). I am 19 and from a small mining town south west of Glasgow called Chadville. I love B&S (obviously) Hefnet.com, Magentics, Tindersticks, S-Club 7 and the Red Bull Dosers. My favourite posters are JenOwl, KenChu and my best friend/hero Danny. I also like David Howie who lives in the same town as me, but he hasn't posted "since afore Christmas" (Copyright Craig Leitch 2000). Ken Chu is my personal hero (apart from Danny, Trip Fontaine, Beans, Hayman and Ricky Fitz) after seeing him at the Glasgow picnic sliding down a helter-skelter with a bottle of vodka and a can of red bull in hand. His band (the Red Bull Dosers) are grate, everyone should listen to them (he is not paying me to say these things). Below is a short story about Danny, more will follow about me and my other friends. Danny - Danny is immune to dobberitis. He got a jag for it at school. It was sore and hurted him for ages. Mummy kissed it better and the nurse gave him a lollypop. Danny likes lollies, they taste grate. Today he went to feed the ducks, cause they will be hungry cause they don�t have money to go to the chip shop when they can�t get fish in the winter. The ponds all freeze up and people go on it and fall down, and he laughs, but only for a wee while cause Danny knows he wouldn�t laugh if it happened to him. His bum would hurt and he wouldn�t be able to sit down. As Danny grew older, he realised that this lesson would help him throughout his life. He thought he could be a better person and learn to love. Danny sat alone at night and watched the stars because they sparkled like nice sparkly things. They reminded him of the eyes of the girl he adored. This kept him awake at night and made him think that life was not the painstaking process he had once believed it to be. On Monday morning Danny glanced at the cuckoo clock and his heart started to beat so hard he thought it might burst through his flesh. The reason for this was that it was almost 8 O�clock, the hour at which he would knock upon the door of the girl known only to him as �Jenny-beans�. It had been a long time since they had last met and he had gone through many sleepless nights longing for her marshmallow and butterscotch cookies. He thought them to be the finest he had ever tasted. It was with that thought that he headed to the hills. P.S. More will follow, thank u if u took the time to read this. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. P.P.S. Listen to the Moldy Peaches, wear purple, read Douglas Coupland novels and never, EVER say bad things about Isobel (it makes me want to cry). "I'm so in love with you dear, it's like I'm on the moon. I can't really breathe, but I feel lighter." - Merritt 3:16 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From megatherion5 at xxx.com Sat Sep 8 00:25:20 2001 From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:25:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Yes...My name IS "The Pickle Prince" Message-ID: Hello Sinister World: It's been awhile laziness and HTML email have hindered our communication but nonetheless here we are. Listening to Lloyd Cole out of sheer wanting-to-be-more-like-the-pinefox-ness.... Aside from some 120 Minutes episodes I haven't listened to him much. First impression? Good...growing on me. Speaking of PF, we seem to be on the same wavelength these days. Old REM has been popping up in my playlists these days quite a bit. I mean..."Wolves Lower"....one remembers summer of heat watching the kudzu slowly take over that old wooden building in the middle of that cow field....skinny-dipping at night....drinking bad wine...generally being a southern-born weirdo with no hopes, just a couple of inclinations...most of them self-destructive....They are the soundtrack to my younger adolescence. But I die-gress.... B & S are a-coming...tomorrow! And frankly I'm pickled tink... A Sinister Picnic in GG Park? Well...aint that something? I guess I'm RSVP'ing (quit chuckling you scatological-minded person you) for it. Stow Lake is quite beautiful and there are these little electric boats you can ride...Heehehe...I can picture the mayhem. Loads of people got to meet Stuart in LA? It may be tougher at the Warfield...It's quite a big venue...I wonder how it'll happen....Will he pop down off the stage after the show..and begin gladhanding?....kissing babies?...I just don't know.... My co-worker's boyfriend got hit and run'ed today and is in intensive care....they had to cut open his skull so his brain wouldn't swell...so I'm alone on the 17th floor of the Humboldt Bank Bldg....thinking of mortality (and yes, PF, listening to Lloyd Cole). How fleeting this life is...we can take nothing for granted...it can all change in a second...all that. Sounds trite...but raw emotion almost always leaves a scar...garish in its obviousity....when words fail, and cleverness turns out to be just running, hiding from truth.... Reminds me of that line from Fight Club: "Oh, that's clever....how's that working out for you?" "How's WHAT working out for me?" "Being clever...." A bittersweet missive indeed Sinister....it has been too long...I've missed you. Do take care...look both ways...and then look again. See you in the park..... The Pickle Prince P.S. If anyone with more pic-nic details would like to email me off list, that would be grand. Also, if anyone needs directions, help of any sort...feel free to email me or even call if you get lost or something...... 415-252-9722 415-420-2766 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Sat Sep 8 03:11:50 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 05:11:50 +0300 Subject: Sinister: weather with you Message-ID: <000801c1380b$9fae98e0$87facdd4@q2x8k0> I'm drinking wine, and looking at the screen. I look at my hand holding the glass and I remember myself standing outside a bar toilet in November '99, glass in hand and leaning on the wall, waiting for a certain boy to come out. 'I have something to tell you', I said. 'Should I say it here?'. He said yes. 'I'm in love with you'... We moved in together a few months later. We started fighting a few weeks later. We never stopped. We broke up. Today, or yesterday rather, I had a great day. The weather was great: windy, sunny and a bit cloudy at the same time. The sky was deep blue, the clouds were little and white, the wind was coming through the window. I dreamed of driving out of the city and lying down on a hill looking at the sky. But I don't know anyone with a car. Or anyone that would consider it a nice idea. Or any hills around here. So instead, I ended up drinking coffee on a table on the pavement in the centre of the city, with the aforementioned boy. And talking about Sinister. Honestly. About john john too. Then we walked around the city looking for something he needed to fix someone's door. We didn't find it. I was tempted to walk into a travel agency and ask how much a ticket for Edinburgh for the next weekend would be, but I didn't. We sat on a bench and had something to eat. The bench was in the middle of the street and the wind blew exactly in the direction of the street, and it felt as if we were going to take off... We didn't. I was smiling, and said, 'I don't want you to move to Athens.... It's things like that that make me feel...' and at that point he jumps in and says, ' that you can take it till you move to Scotland, right?'. And he was right. I wondered a bit about how can everything can go wrong when you're in love with someone, and then go right when you're not. People think it's weird... but it's just beautiful. A second chance to be with someone and love them, and this time it's working!!! We said goodbye, and I went into a record shop which a friend of mine owns. He was my boyfriend too, the first one (the aforementioned one was the second). And I'm friends with him too. Honestly. I went out shortly after, with a Housemartins and Felt album. Now That's What I Call Quit Good, and The Strange Idols Patterns And Other Stories/Ignite The Seven Cannons. I walked around a bit more, and bought Sweetie a present. Walked a bit more, to the bus stop. Waiting for a bus makes me dreamy, even more when it's windy and it's getting dark. There was a parking opposite of me, but it's one of the few places where there are trees in the city. Tall trees with leaves that fall in the wind, on parked cars. And buses all around. And the sea next to that. I got home to discover there was no one there. I turned on the computer and played the Housemartins cd. It made me happy. When they came back, soon afterwards, they found me grinning in front of the screen. Looking really happy (I was really happy too). I think it made them worry. My mum, my brother, his girlfriend, his best friend. My dad was the last one to come in. My dad usually hates me, but when there are people around, he behaves, and it's then he remembers he loves me. I like it when a lot of people gather together in a house, especially when it's not planned. It usually feels like celebrating something. Life,probably. He decided to cook. I went out to buy some wine -the weather was still great, as I walked in the night I was amazed I could feels so happy without something really wonderful having happened to me. And glad. Back home, I was lying on my mum's bed, listening to Felt, and talking to my mum who was hanging clothes to dry, my brother enters the room. He has just discovered our dad is talking to his girlfriend, trying to convince her to give up the job she found. God knows why. For no reason really apart from the fact that telling people what they should do, and why, makes him feel better. So my brother walks in, looks at us, and says, 'Has your *husband* been drinking?'. That's how my life is these days. Weird. Sunny. Windy. Dreamy. Lonely sometimes, but in a magical sense. I hope it stays that beautiful. Love, and keep the faith, Dimitra +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dairy_fairy at xxx.com Sat Sep 8 14:15:50 2001 From: dairy_fairy at xxx.com (Dairy Fairy) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:15:50 0000 Subject: Sinister: Be liberal with your nutmeg. Message-ID: Hello sinister, It's a while since I've written so I may take a minute to get into the swing of it. Like when you go back to school and you find you now write like a seven year old and your hand aches after a couple of lines. I've been to Barcelona and got my a/s level results since i last posted. Both of which were great. I am now the proud owner of 4 As and a peely back. Nice. I am writing now because I feel all naughty and my stomach is blushing, if you know what that feeling is. See, i read all my sinister e-mails in one account and send them from another. And I always thought I was such an anonymous little sinister poster that no-one would reply to me personally so I didn't need to check the account I sent mails from :( And then my e-mail account went mad because it was overloaded with sinister mails since February. I think it was just scared really by the volume of words used, because on the majority of lists, people can only write words like cum, and c u, and big teen boobies. Sinister with its intellectual debate and people who can remember how to spell full words probably came as a shock. So it said I had to delete the mails. And I have spent this morning doing that, and along with all the sinister mails which I have read in my other account there were some replying to my mails and being all lovely and friendly to a shy listee. So I felt awful because I really like getting to know people but I must have seemed very rude. I have replied to most of them, apart from john john, who wrote me a message in march. And I thought he wouldn't remember sending it, so I couldn't really reply. But, john john, yes it was me who sent you the christmas parcel, from my other e-mail address. I did two, one with jelly and one with custard, hope you enjoyed whichever one you got :) After all that apologising, a bit of content. It's funny there's been not much mention of the new single apart from through matador. Or is that just that i've lost the mail that said about it and everyone else will laugh behind my back because they know every detail, have guitar tabs and have set up a separate list purely in honour of the epic new B+S song. Maybe it's just on American release, I don't know. Although that would seem funny from Belle and sebastian who I wouldn't have thought would deny dwellers of the United Kingdom a merry ditty. United Kingdom. hehe. What a funny name for our islands. Maybe it's just me who thinks a kingdom should have minstrels and men wearing little green skirts with tights and princesses with cone shaped hats rather than Tony Blair and ( possibly ) Kenneth Clarke as its icons. Ah well. I am off now to make some jam from the blackcurrants I spent ages collecting yesterday from our garden. I don't know why we have blackcurrants they are all fiddley to pick, and you have to add lots of jam sugar to make it palatable. not sure I spelt that correctly. Cheerio for now, Gracexxx --- And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Sat Sep 8 17:11:07 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 09:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a waterfall of emotion Message-ID: <20010908161107.92456.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Hello lovelies, It's been awhile, hasn't it? I feel like a totally different person fron the last time I posted. I'm gonna share some personal stuff, so if you don't feel like learning such things about me, then skip to the end of this post. Anyone still here? Your presence is appreciated, you sweet thing. Recently I went to the Methadone clinic, and started on the program there. I've been on since Sept 4th. Before that, I was on and off heroin for about four years. I can't even begin to tell you how happy I am about being on the program. I haven't spent any money on illegal drugs at all this week. I am doing mental cartwheels and somersaults (and not a small amount of imaginary-tail wagging)!! Now I can go to the b&s gig in Seattle without worrying about scoring dope or getting sick. If anyone has any experiences or advice they'd like to share, please email me off-list. And thanks for listening, I don't have many people in my semi-professional life I can share this with, know what I mean? ******E N D O F T H E P O S T****** Well, the end of the too-much-information bit, at least. At the moment I'm sitting in Madison's brand new internet cafe, Java EsCafe. I have to give them props, cos their internet access (for the time being) is FREE!! Yep, just buy a coffee or whatever, and surf to your heart's content. Much snazzier gear than the library's free computers. Though I will always adore the library, they don't let me sip lattes while surfing, and enforce a 30 minute time limit. Let's have more gig reviews, west coasters!! Por Favor? Ans links to pics would be grand. Okay, I'll stop demanding thngs and telling secrets. Well, one more thing. This Ken Chu fellow - would anyone be so kind as to email me a picture/link to a picture of this mythical Ken? Thanks everyone. I love you all. -elise PS Is wearing blue corduroy trousers and carrying a tan corduroy bag a fashion felony? :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Sep 8 20:30:07 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:30:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: it could have been a worse career Message-ID: <005b01c1389c$bfaca1a0$6af8bdac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, It's been a while, hehe. I've been a good boy recently, since starting my job on Monday I even slept before midnight most of the time and wakes up at 7am. Good grief, hence the inability to post loads to Sinister, that's why the grasp of tense in the sinister e-mails has improved greatly recently. The job I have is going quite well too, apart from me.... 1) realising that i left my keys inside the house as I closed the door in the morning for work (inc car keys), thus the normal 3 minutes drive to work became me running a mile to work and being twenty minutes late, fortunately no one really cared that I was late. 2) being asked to phone up customers, scary scary scary, esp since I knew absolutely nothing about the business. 3) The classic - Turned up in suit and tie on a "dress down" Friday. So yes, I'm a twat. Ok, post content draught time Well well well It would seem that it is a convenient time for me to start a job! For the reason that, since this week I'm away from sinister suddenly I find myself two offsprings! One young Pika who needs maintenance money and young Kara who wants a zebra! Hey, how comes I got all the Bills and none of the Thrills?? Will someone pay my Bills? Will someone pay my telephone Bills? Will someone pay my automobills? I don't think they do, well then just a kiss will do! *waits for kisses to come* And Alan Whyte! is my new hero, for actually listening to the Red Bull Dozers and liking them! Did any of you know you can download FREE TRACKS on http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd ? Thought not ;-), go there now! What's MORE! *faints* If the ever lovely Mandee Wright is not lying to me, she is going to have her OWN radio show on Monday and she is going to play a Red Bull Dozers track! *dies in excitement* and you can listen online at http://www.unco.edu/ksrx and her show will be on at 10-12 midnight America (Mountain Standard) time and 5-7am UK time. *still waiting* Talking of great tunes, a few months ago, I've copied all of the songs on "If you're feeling Sinister" into mp3 on my computer, so that I don't have to pop in the CD into drive to listen to the kickin' trax, and so, all 10 toons have just become minions on the mp3 program's playlist... A few nights ago, I couldn't sleep properly (still adjusting from never sleeping timezone to ooh sensible working person sleeping timezone), so I wanted some music on the background to help me sleep, and turning on the computer for that would be overkill, so I popped in "If you're feeling Sinister", cos it looked like it said "If you're feeling Insomnia" into the CD player. And I have discovered the BEST drifting off to sleep CD ever! It starts off with soothing trumpets, then soothing piano, then soothing harmonica, then soothing Sturan (ooh er), with the soothing lyrics! It even ends on "Judy and the dream of horses"! I can't remember whether I dreamt of any horses that night, but it certainly helped me sleep, maybe it'll help you sleep too, for those nights when you've drunk too many Red Bulls. Except, you can never drink too many Red Bulls :-) Red Bulls and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: The mysterious, yet nature loving, Ken Chu can be found at http://robster75.tripod.com/redpant4.jpg, but please don't look, good god :-) P.S.S.: Good God is a great phrase where the first word has an extra o than the second word, a little challenge for you all, if you can find five other phrases (that make sense) that has the same style (two words, one with an extra letter than the other but otherwise the same), the first answer wins a mix tape, and my mix tapes are GOOD, just ask Laura Llew :-), who by the way surely is preparing the announcement of me as the winner of the TRANSATLANTIC MIXTAPE CHALLENGE right now... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 04:04:04 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the pink shoe diaries Message-ID: <20010909030404.11643.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> Buenos Noches, I'm back at Java EsCafe, but have to make this quick cos I'm broke at the moment and didn't actually buy anything. So out of politeness I'll have to give up this computer to an actual paying customer soon! Just wanted to thank everyone who wrote back to me. Hugs and kisses and tears of happiness back at 'cha. I will be writing back to y'all soon, probably from work, where I have loads of spare time for long personal emails. :) My friend Kirsti (to anyone who's on diaryland, she is "SHUTUPMOM") just gave me three dresses, which I will be sportin' in Seattle. She also let me try on her new bubblegum-pink shiny patent leather mary janes. I'm jealous of these shoes, but she is a good person and deserves them. I was listening to the song "Simple Things" earlier today, and it made me cry. Pesky emotions. It reminded me of this beautiful Scottish boy who broke my heart. Amazingly, I ran into him this afternoon and we got drunk together at a tiki bar and had fun. I gave him hair gel for his mohawk. Yours through joy and pain (and sunshine, and rain) -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 04:06:32 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 22:06:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i'd rather be fat than be confused Message-ID: i haven't had much to write about lately. i went out and bought a new composition book today and sat down with a pen, and nothing came. it's a pity to have a brand-new notebook and nothing to write. i'm afraid that speaks volumes about my very existence in this city...opportunity without motivation. and rooms full of potentially-interesting people i'm too shy to meet, their numbers nearly matched by the dozens of interesting people i've met who, for one reason another, i never call. one thing that's interesting about this place is that nearly everyone makes eye-contact as they pass, only for a moment, making me wonder what they're thinking and what they've been doing to keep themselves entertained all day. probably just drugs. drugs, studies, and music seem to be the dominant uniting factors among people my age. i don't do drugs, and my half-hearted attempts at independent study hardly make for quality conversation in that realm. and music...being far too poor to go about spending money on records has done its part to drain my confidence in discussing anything released after 1998. maybe these are the reasons why i always find myself engaged in lengthy conversations with middle-aged men. another possibility, of course, is that single 50-year-old men are hopelessly drawn to lone girls who, while comfortably past the minimum age requirement for "consenting adults," still look young enough to get carded every time they buy cigarettes. i've decided that another factor contributing to my lack of youthful companionship is that most people my age have made the necessary connections to obtain fake IDs, enabling them to stuff themselves into noisy, crowded "college bars" and, given the confidence provided by massive consumption of cheap beer, meet attractive strangers to politely push out the door in the morning. maybe that's not exactly "companionship," but it does seem to be a more popular past-time among 20-year-old people than sitting on a plastic chair, drinking tea and dodging a 54-year-old man persistently attempting to sell them bootlegged recordings of brahms' liebeslieder waltzes..."cheap." in any case, last night was the first time in ages i'd sat down with someone whose hair was bubble-gum pink by choice, as opposed to faintly purplish in the sun as a side effect of silver chic hairdye in a shade called "frosted twilight." it was strange...i sort of felt like her grandmother, assuming her grandmother smoke parliament lights and giggles at dirty jokes. i guess that's all. xoxo kirsten (who, regrettably, looks like neither jennifer lopez nor kirsten dunst) Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 04:25:21 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the pink shoe diaries Message-ID: <20010909032521.13245.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> Buenos Noches, I'm back at Java EsCafe, but have to make this quick cos I'm broke at the moment and didn't actually buy anything. So out of politeness I'll have to give up this computer to an actual paying customer soon! Just wanted to thank everyone who wrote back to me. Hugs and kisses and tears of happiness back at 'cha. I will be writing back to y'all soon, probably from work, where I have loads of spare time for long personal emails. :) My friend Kirsti (to anyone who's on diaryland, she is "SHUTUPMOM") just gave me three dresses, which I will be sportin' in Seattle. She also let me try on her new bubblegum-pink shiny patent leather mary janes. I'm jealous of these shoes, but she is a good person and deserves them. I was listening to the song "Simple Things" earlier today, and it made me cry. Pesky emotions. It reminded me of this beautiful Scottish boy who broke my heart. Amazingly, I ran into him this afternoon and we got drunk together at a tiki bar and had fun. I gave him hair gel for his mohawk. Yours through joy and pain (and sunshine, and rain) -elise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 13:36:48 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 12:36:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: flying..saucers..filled with..sherbet. Message-ID: Marie was walking gaily along the pavement, listening to the warbling in the trees, and the occasional car passing in the distance. She felt the lack of presence of the sky that day, as the faint yellow haze subtley sprayed across the floor of the sea of light blue. The clear sky was beautifully plain, but what really affected the girl was the purity of the air; only a day after the thunderstorm meant that everything smelled as fresh as a cascading waterfall. It was such a contrast to the day before the storm, as the weight pressed down on Marie's shoulders; the filling station with air conditioning giving the only respite to her smothered body and lungs. She told herself that there are not very many days like the one she was experiencing, so she made sure she was going to enjoy it. So she started skipping along the path humming melodies, and enjoying the freedom from the clouds. She hopped over to a patch of bluebells, and inhaled the sweet fragrance. She absokutely adored the smell of flowers. She delicately snapped the stem of one of the bluebells, and slid the gorgeous flower inside her hair clasp, and picked a small bunch for her friend. Ross was Marie's friend. But she thought that he was so very cute, she wanted to kiss and cuddle him forever. But she did not dare even give any signs away to him before, as her fear of rejection was pretty intense. As she turned round the corner to the park, she saw Ross sitting on the bench, looking at his watch. Marie was early herself, so she guessed he must have just arrived a moment before. He looked up and saw her, smiled, and got up to hug her. In their embrace, Marie was nearly overwhelmed by how gorgeous he smelled. He must have used some strawberry scented shower gel, Marie thought, and to her satisfaction. She timidly gave him the bunch of bluebells, trying not to let her senses take control of her. But his smile was unbearable, and she could not help but blush slightly and drop her head a wee bit. Ross brought them a picnic, and his tartan rug took the whole of his rucksack, so he carried their lunch in a carrier bag. They settled down on a nice spot, and Ross told his friend of his bus journey there. There was an adorabe little girl on the bus sitting opposite to him. She wore a little puppy fat, but that just made her frown ever cuter to him. She clutched her Bagpuss throuhout the journey, and got off at the stop before him. Marie knew that this girl was half Ross' age, and she would find this girl just as cute as he did, but she was nearly sick with envy. She wanted desperately to be the one he thought was cute. Her masterplan to let things happen naturally was scrunched up; she was going to have to something that very day. She sighed to herself and lay down, and gazed into the sky. Silence passed between them, but she didn't find this an awkward silence. She was actually quite content in lying there with him, with the adrenaline undermining her jealousy, and racing through her as she was ready to penetrate the threshold between being friends and kissing him. Ross did not like the silence though. He thought that something was wrong, but he didn't know what. So he stood up, and asked her friend if she wanted to take a walk to the pond. He gave Marie her hand to help her up, but he did not have as much strength as he wanted to; Marie managed to fins her feet, but it wasn't without knocking over her friend's rucksack... the bag fell on its side, and Marie could only try to battle against her body's reluctance to breathe, as one of the side pockets was open. She could see her masterplan growing obselete, and then her backup plan be torn to shreds, as her world crashed before her, and saw a couple of packets of cigarettes slide out of the bag... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 13:56:49 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:56:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Introduction Message-ID: <00dc01c1392e$e7fcfc80$9865fea9@fallahome> Hello everyone, I've been waiting for two weeks to finally post my first message to this list, so here goes... As I wait to start the second year of an accounting course at uni, the summer's just dragged on and on and on. Thankfully it hasn't rained recently (like it seems to be doing where PF is), so there's been plenty of time to go outdoors, but even so, I'll be almost glad when uni starts again in three weeks' time. Even though I did (surprisingly) well in last year's exams, I only got a job for a couple of weeks, and as for going away...well, the best thing I got was a day trip in London. And all I did there was go round Soho, see the theatres, eat at Pizza Hut (simple) and take a trip on the London Eye! To be honest, I wish I could have stayed there for longer. Londonderry (my home town) is dull. Hopefully the new concert hall will liven it up. Also, there was a B & S concert in London which I unfortunately missed. On the plus side, I've been listening to a lot more music. I'm probably not as much into B & S as some of you are, but I'm getting there. If You're Feeling Sinister's my favourite album - I thought Tigermilk was good, but Sinister and The Boy With The Arab Strap are better. My favourite song at the minute is probably Like Dylan In The Movies. Unfortunately I don't like The Gentle Waves quite as much ... I tend to shut my ears every time I hear Evensong. My other favourite bands at the minute are The Divine Comedy and Ash. Any big TDC fans on this list? If so, Promenade is definitely the best album...I've just been listening to it there now. And I love singing all these songs as well, especially TDC's. In fact, I love singing any good song. So much so, that on the 3rd I finally joined the Londonderry Amateur Operatic Society (LAOS). It's given me a chance to perform in the new concert hall, as well as re-unite with all my old school friends. I went to a rehearsal some five years ago, but never came back...until now. Finally, notes to everyone. Jim (Gilmer), that was good advice of yours about avoiding loneliness, but it's easier said than done. Jenni (sorry, Cay) - you were right to see Josie and the Pussycats, I enjoyed it too (unlike most American critics). In fact, I now have one of the songs from it (Three Small Words). Why not try Down To Earth? I saw East Is East for the first time recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. I plan to get it on DVD. I also saw Moulin Rouge recently - very good. (you've probably guessed I'm really into films)Ken Chu - you are one funny guy. I especially liked the final part of 'Loneliness of the middle distance runaway thread.' Idleberry - eat as much chocolate as you like, I hear it's good for you (in a way). Alasdair Cook - Tigermilk is really good, but as I said above there are better B & S albums. And yes, that may have been the worst German team ever, but you didn't expect 5-1, did you? Anything like that's really worth celebrating. Amy Skelton - good to see another MFC fan here, I'll E-Mail you again soon. Ben - I don't think I'll see Hedwig & the Angry Inch, even though you say it's good. Take care, Psi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 17:45:16 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:45:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: who wants to see a half-naked Jason? Message-ID: <001f01c1394e$d169f8e0$f78a7ad5@oemcomputer> http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas/photos.html there you are :) Aaaaanyway, aside from that skinny freak (ie, me)... Why do we get more sunshine when it's cold than we do in the Summer? See Scotland? See weird weather? See cool bands? See Songs: Ohia. And that's Jason's tip for this post... I continue, as always, to work. Call centre life is pretty crappy, and filled with petty bureacracy and shite like that, but at least they give me money. Even though no-one South of Nottingham even pretends to make an effort to understand my "Scotch" accent. Guess I shouldn't work on a hearing-aid information line... I bought the Radiohead live bootleg from South Park (gig, not tv show). It cost me £19 and is absolutely fucking brilliant. It rawks. I am in the process of obtaining the two gigs I attended in Glasgow Green by them too. Which will rawk even more. Pity I can't get the Belle & Sebastian gigs I was at. I never seem to hear of any live boots (Black Sessions aside) floating around. Ach well. I'm trying to live the single life and have fun doing so. No snogs yet, but I don't mind. I just wish the ex wouldn't keep trying to throw tales of how amazing the new boyfriend is in my face. Ach well, I'm sure she'll cheat on him eventually too. Or vice versa, which would also be sweet. Gods, that sounded nasty of me. Ooooh! I've been helping fuzzly creatures when I see them in trouble. Well, birdies and insects - not the fuzziest of things, I admit, but they can be pathetic, and I have an affinity for that, y'know :p I'm addicted to Phileas Fogg cheese tortilla chips. And Irn Bru, of course, but you knew that already. In good news, my cousin has managed to talk the council into letting her take over my deceased gran's house, so the whole family breathes a sigh of relief that it won't have her memory spoiled by being taken over by thugs or bampots... I have a car. I can't drive. I have a blue Fiat Punto. But I can't drive. I shall learn. And then I shall visit you London buggers for a good laugh. Count on it. I've rambled enough for now, I feel. - Jase xx http://www21.brinkster.com/jasonandreas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 18:23:53 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (bookworm_trochet at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:23:53 +0800 Subject: Sinister: San Francisco Performance Message-ID: <20010909172354.6324.qmail@mail.com> Hello! Holly here, and last night, my sister and I got to see Belle and Sebastian live!!! It was worth all the effort to get down to SF and definitely worth wasting all the time in that mall. As for the show, (which is probably what you're interested in) it was, of course, fantastic, although I didn't care for the guy who opened for them. The only thing to REALLY mar the occasion was some idiot who had evidently forgotten to take his Ritalin that morning. I had heard many rumors of Stuart's moodiness, but I think he was in a good mood last night, because he made a few jokes and danced around the stage. (Though I have to say, his dancing isn't as entertaining as Thom Yorke's...but then, do we really want it to be?) If you read the post about the songs played at the L.A. gig, then you have a pretty good idea of what was played last night. I don't remember them all, but a few were (in no particular order): 1. Leader of the Pack (opener, where they had a motorcycle come onstage) 2. Dirty Dream #2 3. Simple Things 4. Slow Graffiti 5. Family Tree 6. Woman's Realm (where they left out the "You slept better in a sleeping train..." part, but oh well) 7. There's Too Much Love (where Stuart messed up and in stead of "I feel like dancing on my own" sang something like, "We all fall down on our asses", at least that's what it sounded like to me) 8. The Model 9. Jonathan David (Poor Stevie was having trouble with his voice, so he and Stuart switched parts so Stevie wouldn't have to try for the high notes) 10. The Wrong Girl (Stevie sang one verse as Johnny Cash, ha ha) 11. Legal Man 12. Fox in the Snow And that's all I can think of at the moment. Audience members were called up to help during songs, and being the generally good crowd that we were, no one booed at them. On the balcony (where I was) people started dancing, but the ushers made them stop. (It didn't stop people from trying again later) I was glad that my sister brought her opera glasses, because it meant I could see people's faces. Sarah has a very sweet face; Isobel looked a little bored, though. Though she was very charming and asked on guy on the floor about his eye-patch. She commented on how striking it was. I had a lot of fun at that concert, I wish it had lasted longer, though, but then again maybe I don't, because when I got home, I was so exhausted that I fell asleep as soon as my head touched the pillow. Well, that's it for me. -Holly -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 20:55:20 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:55:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'll be known as the boy who's never working, I'll be known as the boy who's never dancing. Message-ID: I wanted this to be a nice new, shining post, full of confidence and optimism in order to impress my wonderful new list crush. So I thought about the last week, starting school and the weekend ahead and really, I didn't think I could write a confident, optimistic post full of enthusiasm for life as it's just not what I'm feeling like. I worked out what is wrong with my life, lying alone in bed last night. I don't really have any friends closer than arms length, if you see what I mean. No-one I can just feel confident and relaxed with. No-one I can just ring up on the spur of the moment and talk to or go out with. I'm going to spend the weekend talking to my little sister as I can't even talk to the polish builder any more. The polish builder was called Magic and was probably the most intelligent, interesting person I've ever met. We'd talk about books, and politics and national identity, although he was always so much more informed than me about books, he seemed to have read the entirety of English literature in Russian, Polish and English, while growing up as a peasant on a poverty-stricken communist farm. He now works for 2 pounds an hour as a labourer on a building site before he goes to University. In all, although I enjoyed talking to him, it used to make me feel uncomfortable, I being a lazy, middle class kid with a posh-ish accent who'll probably never get anything done, he being a really insightful, hard-working, well read sub-student out of the easern bloc who'll probably be president of Poland, or the first world leader, or at least something worthwhile. It all made me think that there really isn't any justice, and however hard you try, there'll be some other twat somewhere else who'll do twice as much to destroy all of what makes life worth living. In 10 days, I should have a new brother/sister. My sister's getting a cat on Thursday. I want it to be called either Sebastian if it's a boy or India if it's a girl, the cat this is. We are all prevented from thinking of names for the baby as last time my step-mother got name frenzy and it was all we ever talked about. Both Belle and Sebastian have been rejected, though, as there are already extended family members called those. Um, this actually took about 2 days to write which exceeds the 15-minute thingy by a bit but you'll just have to live with it. Life's a bit on the rubbish side but I've felt better since writing this post, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Sun Sep 9 23:22:04 2001 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 18:22:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: trading seattle for portland or vancouver Message-ID: <154.ba5b97.28cd458c@aol.com> Hello listees, Is there anyone who could trade me a ticket to the Portland or Vancouver B&S show for a ticket to the Seattle show? It is a balcony seat from the Moore theater, and the show has been moved to the Paramount so I don't know if they're going to keep us in the balcony or not. Love Courtney +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Sep 9 23:59:45 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 23:59:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dol 'na still ann an aodann na bairlinn* Message-ID: <3B9BF461.C00B6E4B@netscapeonline.co.uk> In a dim but also fading room, they met: they were several and... vivacious. walls were there; to listen in: how many years, are precious? Brains and bodies; hands and glowing eyes: they met and they were several. Gradually the fading stopped for the words exchanged were Elemental. The siphon of time meets living: Living produces a giving of the light... consequently the room was dim no longer; 'though it was the middle of the night. I appreciate that as you read this these words have been transcribed to E-mail format but, as it is, paper and ink are located upon a rock by the northwestern highlands coast of Scotland. I'm taking advantage of the fact that the sun has broken through a squall, 'though the wind is still up. Ahead of me, the shallows are turquoise: lapping black ripplets over the golden seaweed like some undiscovered Hermes print on silk. The horizon is striated by this low-tide. Beyond is Skye. To the left is Eigg; closer than the rising and gloomy mass of Rhum. Last night I stayed in a lodge which was formerly a secret enclave of the Special Operations Executive in WWII. Its current owner knows more than I dared ask about people I've only read; or read of. There were two peacocks in the garden, and fairylights in the dining room. The scenario was entirely charming. I am smitten. Their collie dog curled up to my leg by the fireplace and, the following morning its young owner [the daughter of the daughter; about 7 or 8 years old] quizzed me: 'what is it's name?' 'I call it dog' 'I own it, and I call it 'seal' because it likes to swim.' 'Maybe it wants a swim then; not a walk' mother- "the sea is too cold" I shrug and sign the bill; the tip being a half bottle of vintage chablis left in their fridge. It's heart-wrenchingly beautiful up here: even the sheep don't run away at the sight of a person: they stop and stare. A single cloud of some ten miles radius is depositing its arc of rain upon the cliffs on the southern tip of Skye. The wind threatens to draw the airborne water in my direction. Waves gallop white over the rocky outshores and I'm shivering. Time to button up the jacket; turn the collar up but, with an approaching wind the ensemble and its adjustments are of scant use. I'm so at home here: it's the least lonely place I know... conversations with more than one person who knew what I was alluding to specifically. When people run out, there is a presence of nature. Sea reflects the mood of the air and those who behold it; the rocks: a defiant architecture of sanctuary for birds like as sea-birds are apt to be; the cold depths the baskings of a shark and the lamprey which is somewhat horrific in that it bites into the dumb shark-flesh: the shark is unaware of this intrusion and 'though our squeamishness may preclude not facts, but conceptions: say; not stabbing but liposuction? All in the descriptive frame, you see. An oystercatcher zooms headfirst towards a runway of wet sand and brakes with its wings before performing a staggering vertical landing from the altitude of approximately one inch; orange undercarriage aglow. Does a reccie of the foreshore. The sun is out. The sea-side plants I remember from my grannie's garden lilt in a breeze. Scotland makes sense from here: life makes sense from here: if it is but a temporary respite; if it should become a bore... it does not enter my head now and I would not request its prescence. A gull rises on a warm uplift then lands to waddle into the waves. A low arc of rainbow bridges the Sound of Sleat to the north: in the vapour is hope; in the ..... Gordon *the extract goes as follows, and apologies for the lack of accentuating marks: Sinibh, tairnib's lubaibh, Na gallain liagh-leobhar ghiuthais 'S deanaibh uidhe troimh shutraibh an usaile. Cliath ramb air gach taobh dhith Masgadh fairge le saothair, Dol 'na still ann an aodan na bairlinn i.e. Stretch, pull and bend The slim-bladed pine saplings And make a way through the oceans' currents. Bank of oars on each side of her Stirring ocean with toil, Dashing in the face of the tempest _ from Clanranald's Galley, written by Alaisdair, mac Mhaighstir Alasdair, who is anonymously buried in the kirkyard of Arisaig... d. 1707 'the greatest gaelic poet' +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Mon Sep 10 00:05:00 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:05:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: have the fish got chips? Message-ID: do you know what I do? I save up Sinister mails that have things in them I intend replying to so I can send one big chunky mail with loads of little replies in them. Only then I end up with an in-box full of old Sinister mails and I forget what it was about them I wanted to reply about, which is annoying. That said, I've always had the slight suspicion that Jenowl's mails are written by a Wire writer in his mid-30s, and by not merely having heard of the delightfully named Anal Cunt but also knowing the title of one of their songs "she" confirms my suspicions. Do I win a prize? Special friend Irene and I went to Cork last weekend instead of going to Track & Field in London. Cork is great. Its people refer to it as the southern capital to make up for the fact that it isn't actually the capital of Ireland. we went to Fota Wildlife Park on a little island outside the city. The wildlife park is GRATE, it's like a refugee camp for cute little animals. Most of them are allowed wander around the park freely which means they spend their time being chased by little children. Our favourite animal was the capybara, a kind of giant hamster the size of a large dog which the catholic church classes as a fish so that people can eat it on fast days. It's interesting the way everyone's favourite B&S are doing the thing in America of getting people from the audience up to sing songs, like they reportedly did in England as well. I wonder why they didn't do that in Scotland? I'm very impressed with their having a motorbike onstage to do the vrooom vrooom bits of Leader of the Pack. I bought the Strokes album on Friday and from thinking it was pleasant enough I know think it's actually quite good and am beginning to think the Strokes might not end up being completely forgotten in six months time. time for tubby bye byes. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 00:46:48 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:46:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: How to survive a sore throat Message-ID: <7b.1ada7898.28cd5968@aol.com> Dear Sinister, I'm sorry I've been away so often, Sinister, I've been quite busy with school and work and all that jazz that seems to interupt my frenzied Internet addiction. I've been quite jealous of the West coast comrades for being able to enjoy all these wonderful B&S shows, and not only that, but Juicy Lucy and I discovered yet another reason to be jealous of the Seattle listees--according to Carson Daly, we should all be seething with jealousy because those lucky Seattle folk get to see Alanis Morrisette and Pearl Jam ALL IN ONE NIGHT. Let me say, I was up all night daydreaming about the possibility of flying to Seattle in one hurried, frantic huff, glazed over by fandom for Mr. Edward Vedder. Just to say, my Jaw was a little bit on the ground when I read a certain listees post about how she didn't care for "the guy that opened for B&S". I was shocked, I will not lie. How could one regard The Legendary Jonathan Richman as just "a guy", and also, juxtaposed with a dislike for him and his music? It's appalling, let me say. I won't lie. But that's just a side note--on a regular note, the real note, I have been enjoying the company of a certain Ms. Lucy Alder throughout this weekend, my first proper Sinister mini-picnic, and it has been grand--on Friday night we drank gin and tonics and debated as to who was the worst dressed in the joint, as a balding man with a mullet serenaded us with "Joy to fishes in the deep blue sea.... "... he stumbled by us, staggering, and said, "I'm sorry, I'm drunk." I appreciated his honesty. The weather has been representin' in regular Colorado style, bipolar, confused, always carry an umbrella--it's rained heaps. Even started to snow. I love the feeling of the sunshine on my face along with a startlingly cool breeze filtering through the windows. Last night I took it upon myself to complete a difficult task--I was on the drive home from Denver, the lights approaching on the other side of the highway visible from miles and miles away, blurring together to look like one enormous light hurling itself through space--the radio was playing some vague, familiar hits, including an acoustic set of Better than Ezra (I had no interest. Can you blame me? I switched it off). My sister was in the seat next to me, snoring lightly--all of a sudden, I tried to imagine every person I have ever known and what they were doing in that particular slice of one moment--My friend Ian milling around his apartment looking for soap for which to wash his feet, Nicole asleep, clutching her teddy bear--Sebastian on his drive home from the mountains, Lisa and Sarah asleep, they too snoring lightly--my parents, two mounds of mashed potatoes under piles of blankets, SportsCenter blaring from a vacuum of silence--and even some of you Sinister folk that I can only be forced to imagine because I have never encountered your friendly faces--an early English morning and Ken Chu engaged in consuming glistening cans of Red Bull--Kirsten Kenyon being awoken by her dog jumping on her bed with wet paws--it becomes so difficult, so time consuming to try and imagine this, but at the same time, it just slithers by like a carousel of slides, one after the other, next, next, click, wait, go back... it's like my mind stopped even trying, these images just entered my mind--sort of like how Ray suddenly thinks of the Stay Puft Marshmallow man in "Ghost Busters". I simply wasn't even trying. I guess what I'm getting at is this; you may not have been thinking of me last night, around 12:30 midnight, but I certainly was thinking of you, Sinister. Love and dog-eared paperback novels, Mandee May +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 00:56:37 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:56:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: How to survive a sore throat Message-ID: <6b.1a639132.28cd5bb5@aol.com> Dear Sinister, I'm sorry I've been away so often, Sinister, I've been quite busy with school and work and all that jazz that seems to interupt my frenzied Internet addiction. I've been quite jealous of the West coast comrades for being able to enjoy all these wonderful B&S shows, and not only that, but Juicy Lucy and I discovered yet another reason to be jealous of the Seattle listees--according to Carson Daly, we should all be seething with jealousy because those lucky Seattle folk get to see Alanis Morrisette and Pearl Jam ALL IN ONE NIGHT. Let me say, I was up all night daydreaming about the possibility of flying to Seattle in one hurried, frantic huff, glazed over by fandom for Mr. Edward Vedder. Just to say, my Jaw was a little bit on the ground when I read a certain listees post about how she didn't care for "the guy that opened for B&S". I was shocked, I will not lie. How could one regard The Legendary Jonathan Richman as just "a guy", and also, juxtaposed with a dislike for him and his music? It's appalling, let me say. I won't lie. But that's just a side note--on a regular note, the real note, I have been enjoying the company of a certain Ms. Lucy Alder throughout this weekend, my first proper Sinister mini-picnic, and it has been grand--on Friday night we drank gin and tonics and debated as to who was the worst dressed in the joint, as a balding man with a mullet serenaded us with "Joy to fishes in the deep blue sea.... "... he stumbled by us, staggering, and said, "I'm sorry, I'm drunk." I appreciated his honesty. The weather has been representin' in regular Colorado style, bipolar, confused, always carry an umbrella--it's rained heaps. Even started to snow. I love the feeling of the sunshine on my face along with a startlingly cool breeze filtering through the windows. Last night I took it upon myself to complete a difficult task--I was on the drive home from Denver, the lights approaching on the other side of the highway visible from miles and miles away, blurring together to look like one enormous light hurling itself through space--the radio was playing some vague, familiar hits, including an acoustic set of Better than Ezra (I had no interest. Can you blame me? I switched it off). My sister was in the seat next to me, snoring lightly--all of a sudden, I tried to imagine every person I have ever known and what they were doing in that particular slice of one moment--My friend Ian milling around his apartment looking for soap for which to wash his feet, Nicole asleep, clutching her teddy bear--Sebastian on his drive home from the mountains, Lisa and Sarah asleep, they too snoring lightly--my parents, two mounds of mashed potatoes under piles of blankets, SportsCenter blaring from a vacuum of silence--and even some of you Sinister folk that I can only be forced to imagine because I have never encountered your friendly faces--an early English morning and Ken Chu engaged in consuming glistening cans of Red Bull--Kirsten Kenyon being awoken by her dog jumping on her bed with wet paws--it becomes so difficult, so time consuming to try and imagine this, but at the same time, it just slithers by like a carousel of slides, one after the other, next, next, click, wait, go back... it's like my mind stopped even trying, these images just entered my mind--sort of like how Ray suddenly thinks of the Stay Puft Marshmallow man in "Ghost Busters". I simply wasn't even trying. I guess what I'm getting at is this; you may not have been thinking of me last night, around 12:30 midnight, but I certainly was thinking of you, Sinister. Love and dog-eared paperback novels, Mandee May +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jacob.mishook at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 01:51:07 2001 From: jacob.mishook at xxx.com (Jacob Mishook) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 17:51:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Introductions and 9/8 SF Setlist Message-ID: <3B9C0E7B.5C091EA5@sri.com> Here is my quick introduction: Jacob, 22, Palo Alto, CA, on the list for about 5 months, biding my time until I actually had some content to post. And, courtesy of the soundboard guy in front of me at the show (thanks, soundboard guy!), here is the 9/8 SF setlist: Leader of the Pack Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie There's Too Much Love The Magic of A Kind Word I Fought In A War My Wandering Days Are Over Jonathan David Slow Graffiti The Model The Boy With A Thorn In His Side (audience participation/request) Simple Things The Boy With The Arab Strap Fox In The Snow Family Tree The State That I Am In Dirty Dream #2 The Wrong Girl Woman's Realm Legal Man Everyday People I agree with Holly's post that Isobel looked rather bored. Though I would disagree with her take on "the guy who opened for them." I thought Richman's performance was great, especially his dancing during "I Was Dancing in the Lesbian Bar." I dare you to find a more youthful 49 year old. And finally, a special thank you to those at the SF picnic for making me feel so welcome. I'm sure Kyla will file a full report on the afternoon's festivities ;-) Jacob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Therockvixen at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 02:10:33 2001 From: Therockvixen at xxx.com (Therockvixen at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:10:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Just another foxy girl in glasses Message-ID: <77.1ad56750.28cd6d09@aol.com> Hello Sinister ... Well, I just got out of the nursery (about a year ago) and I figured it was time to make my presence known. My name is Meghan and I live in Little Rock, Arkansas. I have a degree in expository writing and I work in a coffee bar. One time, when I was about three, I had to go to the dentist to get a cavity filled. As it turned out, though, I had only eaten a black crayon. As for B&S content, my friend and I went on a roadtrip yesterday and I made her listen to Tigermilk. She bitched about it all day. The moral of this story: Never travel long distances with a crybaby. I love you all. Hugs, Meghan +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Mon Sep 10 02:29:42 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dahling) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 04:29:42 +0300 Subject: Sinister: I think I'm turning into one of you... Message-ID: <005d01c13998$1210fd00$9ddc673e@q2x8k0> usual introduction to a post by dahling: don't reply to me, reply to dahling at ismydarling.co.uk . she's probably out of the nursery by now, but for some obscure reasons she still can't post. she send it to me. I took care of it. I made a post out of a word document. I read it. I thought of a subject. I made her name appear up there. Finally, I wrote an introduction. Now I'm leaving, leaving you alone with her. Take good care of her, bye from me, Dimitra. ps She's turning into one of us. That's for sure. But then Ally, and Pinefox, say we are turning into lamposts... who knows what's going to happen... ------------post starts here--------------- A ring of tea bags hang from the ceiling their shadows creep toward the open window like spiders leaving behind a faint scent of mint. Maps scamper across the wall in circles, diamonds, swirls. Blocked by the corners, they settle into the ebb and flow of a giant wave, enclosing three portraits, taking the blue man places he never thought he'd see. My dingy grey sheets are saturated in sweat and I lay upon them, twirling my oily hair into a mini pompadour, wondering where you are and if you will ever get here. So I think I'm turning into one of you. Satisfied to lurk forever on the list and titter about in #sinister only, I am now obsessed with the idea of writing things for sinister people to read. I don't really understand it. It seems a bit egocentric, or psychological in a therapeutic sort of way. Well, really, it's a great cure for writer's block. When I can't stand trying to find a new way to describe blue seas or am sick of reading quotes from dumb basketball players, or when I am just plain LAZY, it's a nice change of venue. And even better, since I write them in Word, it appears as if I might actually be writing work-related things in some inspired, feverish frenzy. Only you know the truth. And I know you won't tell. Also, I'm having a slight career crisis. Shall I tell you about it? As background, it is important to know that I spent the last two years slaving away at a small newspaper (circ. 30,000) in New England. It was fabulous, despite the shit wages, long hours and the scary way it consumed my entire life, for I was hanging out with cops and criminals, with druggies and rape victims and welfare mothers and inmates and everyone in between. Fantastic. Being a crime reporter is not as glamorous as it seems, but it was still damn cool. For although I am rather shy and naive, I got to witness the true stuff of life in all its glaring reality. These people opened up to me in ways I still don't completely understand, and I felt what I was doing, telling their stories, was important in some way. Somewhere along the line I decided to up and move to Greece with a colleague. Crazy. Since I've arrived four months ago, I've spent the majority of my days laying around our largely unfurnished apartment, doing absolutely nothing and feeling damn guilty about it. Occasionally I travel. Actually, I've traveled quite a bit this summer. And the only writing I've done is in the form of really cheesy travel articles that I'm not really proud of. Here's the rub - I used to enjoy travel immensely, but I'm beginning to hate it. It's become all about going to a place, anxious to analyze it and strip it of all it has to offer - in the most efficient manner possible - until it's reduced to a product. And it is quite unsatisfying, especially when traveling alone. How do you truly experience a place by yourself? To me, the place only becomes important once it is infused with experience of some sort. It can contribute to the experience, but does not achieve significance until the experience is had. When you are alone, all you do is observe other people's experience with the place and reflect upon your own experiences elsewhere. At least, I do. I realized all this while I was by myself in the Pelion Peninsula, after a delightful visit with Miss Velocity Girl herself, who I should add here, is the most gracious hostess and regaled me with sinister gossip and ice cream and scary movies until I was ready to burst with comfort and joy. Anyway. my first stop was a beautiful, if not a little touristy, village. I walked around a bit and thought, "Aw, quaint. Must take photos." And the next half hour was spent doing just that - exploring for the sake of photos, not for the sake of discovering or enjoying the place, really. There were lots of cute shops and cafes, and I briefly considered visiting them, but decided to move on instead, and get as much done in one day as possible - as if it were a chore! And it quickly became one. The bus ride to the next town was breathtaking. Then I had no idea to get off the bus. I didn't much care, since the whole point of the journey was to be somewhat adventurous and random. I stopped at a town - it happened to be the right one. As I got off the bus, I thought, "Now what?" I was planning to spend the night, so my first task was to find a hotel. I couldn't find one. I could hardly find the town center for that matter - it was impossibly spread out along the height of a mountain. I trudged up and down the mountain with my pack in the mid-day sun, feeling impatient and miserable. Eventually I found an affordable room, took a shower, rushed out to get photos in the setting sunlight, got dinner, and retired to my room for the evening, not caring to "experience" the town any more. I was supposed to visit another town the next day, but slept through my stop and ended up in Volos again, all too happy for an excuse to curl up on a sofa again and watch films. Isn't that awful? When I'm alone, traveling is reduced to work - the pursuit of photos and product for an article I will undoubtedly hate and be ashamed of because it is so fake. Of course I wrote the most topical, cheery article about the "charming' villages of Pelion, and felt only a tinge of guilt because they weren't really that charming for me. But I imagine what they would be like if I was with someone else and write with that in mind. So, I don't know how much longer this can go on. I want to write about drugs and people on the fringes of society again. But my Greek is horrid. And it's hard as hell finding people who will pay you on the basis of succinct little query letters and insistences that you are THE person for the job. Especially when you don't believe it yourself. I am secretly terrified of talking to anyone, which is quite comical, considering my job. There were days when it took me half an hour of bracing myself to make a phone call. Of course, I was calling people who were just raped or charged with rape or whose kid just died in a motorcycle accident. But you'd think these things would become easier. They don't. I was considering the summer as my grace period, my long-awaited and deserved vacation of sorts, during which I would traipse about, writing a few travel pieces here and there, learning Greek. As fall came along I would buckle down and get a real job somehow. It's not happening. And the money is slowly whittling away. Instead of doing something practical about it, like getting a tutoring job on the side or just going onto the streets to meet drug addicts, I'm doing something completely rash and expensive, flying to the UK to join the lost list of sinister pilgrims who have made their way to the Mecca of sinister, Glasgow, stopping at a few picnics and pubs for listee meet-ups along the way. I think I am a bit mad sometimes. Then I think I'd rather have a complete experience and spend the money while it's still there and before I have to fly back to the States and take a real job, much to the mockery and delight of my parents. Some perceptive little listees have been noting lately how no one ever seems to be satisfied with where they are - the whole grass is always greener thing. And we are all such restless souls. I think dear Gavin is the only person I know who is satisfied with his home, and I find that so wonderful. What does it take to be satisfied? It's probably just as much about people as it is the place. I travel to one place to escape the other, but realize when I get there, it's impossible to escape myself and that was where the problem lay in the first place. But, if anyone out there feels compelled to escape to Greece for a bit, give me a ring. My, this is getting on. One would think that with all my journalistic training, I would learn to be succinct. Hmm. I wish I could contribute something masterful to the lovely Runaway Thread series. But it is too good and I am intimidated. Although I suspect a mysterious Mr. Trousers had something to do with it. Or a crazed lurker who could not bear to sit quietly in the shadows any longer. Or an Aussie. Yours till Victoria falls, dahling +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 03:10:42 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 22:10:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: closet lurking queen Message-ID: Someone just posed about them thinking they were turning into a sinisterine, well, since school started I think I have become or are starting to become a lurker. Wow! Well, to tell you the truth that isn't it. First of all I think I will start of the chain events that everyone wants to say. I am so jealous to everyone on the west coast b/c it all sounds so wonderful. I am also very excited for everyone in japan (I hope I dont set off a string of scary emails that Niel and Honey will yell at me about). You are all so very very lucky. I was talking to a friend today while I was reading the set list for last night, and I was saying how exciting that was for all of you to hear "leader of the pack". That used to be my favorite song when I was a litttle girl. Second, ***I know that this is not content anymore, so all of you who dont care about my life can leave now. *** Well, boys and girls, I have talked to a few of you recently about how my life was sucking, seemed to be spiraling and I was becoming a closet introvert. Well, after deciding what the problem was, i decided to slowly change. People invited me to go see MU330 and Against all athority at a club on friday, and i tried to find a way out of it but couldn't. So, b/c of that i say thanks to you, I think its b/c of you all. I love you all kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mateamo at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 04:40:33 2001 From: mateamo at xxx.com (matea basta) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 03:40:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mini mouse perfume, metal poles, chris geddes and our future kidlets Message-ID: its about time i say something. well first off, i'm matea. aww i'll help... Muh-Tay-Uh... anyways, once i drank a whole bottle of mini-mouse perfume.(i was 3) well, almost a whole bottle. my sister told me it was Dimetap...and i really really like Dimetap. im telling you this, because well, if i say something idiotic, just blame it on that. and my walking into a metal pole in 3rd grade cus i tried to walk with my eyes closed for a really long time. uhhhh anyways... im in love with chris geddes and at the International Festival at Benicasim in spain stuart delivered my love letter for chris to him. oh and...that was me and my big sister dancing on stage if you were there and you saw us! could you blame me for acting like a fool?! my dreams came true that night. im going to their show in portland on tuesday. im hoping to somehow get backstage and get some autographs. and also maybe me and chris geddes can get married. i dont know if he'd agree to all this though. but if he does...one of our kids can be named belle, and one we'll call sebastian. anyways, i hope they get bad eyesight too cus then the whole family will wear glasses. and i'll only let the kidlets wear corduroys and converse. good plan i think... love, mini mouse perfume, and metal poles, matea _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 05:44:34 2001 From: CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com (CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:44:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: I was the ninth member of B and S for 3 whole minutes!!! Message-ID: <29.1a72c5c0.28cd9f32@aol.com> I just wanted to share with everyone my adventures this weekend in LA and SF seeing everyone's favorite band....no, not The Modern Lovers, our OTHER favorite band. I left school at 2:10 on Thursday, ran to my car and drove from San Diego to LA. Fought through traffic, got flicked off by and old lady, and had two signs saying "Belle and Sebastian or Bust" and "Honk If Your Going to Belle and Sebastian" taped to the side windows. Arrived to be about the 30th or so in line. I had learned that the first 40 or so in line got orchestra privaledge and I got right up front. Took some great pictures, the security didn't care about flash. So, once I put them online I will write again to tell everyone. I bought 8 perfect lollipops and handed them to Stuart during the set. A girl sang "take me out to the ballgame" and a couple who Staurt had mocked at the beginning danced awkwardly. Everyone who went on stage got autographed baseballs. Apparently he has a baseball obsession nowadays. Afterwards, I got the privaledge of meeting the band as they left (everyone except for Richard, Isobel, and sarah) and took pictures of everyone. Got hugs!! I was too nervous to ask for hugs and then my friend ernie did. I said "Dang! you have some nerve, asking them for hugs, I'm too afraid." stevie overheard this and gave me a great big hug, exclaiming "there's plenty of love for everyone." Sigh.... Everyone was sooooo nice in the band, Bobby (the new Scottish rock version of Leonardo Dicaprio), Wee Chris (who Stuart said didn't look his best because he coudln't get his contacts in! but who doesn't love Chris's glasses), even Mick who wouldn't give me a hug. (he said he doesn't give hugs! I took it personally!) The tour manager was calling Stu to get to the pub with everyone else, but Stuart said the fans had been waiting too long and told stories with everyone for awhile. How wonderful is that!! I heard he didn't used to be like that, so it must be his new gal he's with, making him all giddy. In San Francisco, we got there around 1:00 and the band was just wondering about the streets, doing some sight seeing. Grabbed more pictures of stuart and he recognized me!! Reminded him of my name, Rachel. He told me he put my lollipops in everyone's equipment cases so they would find them when they got out the instruments! Isn't that lovely and twee and all. The show rocked my world. Someone already posted the setlist. Me and Jen agreed Stevie has a hot bod and women's hips, but Stuart looked damn fine in a little leather cap and choker during Leader of the Pack. The guy who got called onstage to sing The Boy with the thorn on his side rocked. And the best part? I was the privaleged little girl in front who got called onstage to say the spoken word part in Dirty Dream Number 2. I danced like a chimp, played one of those great egg shaker noise maker thingies, and had the greatest minutes of my life. Stuart said to me "it's rachel, isn't it?" AHHHHH!!! My prize baseball is now displayed in my room. Some girls also gave him a baseball cap which he wore during part of the set. Afterwards, the band ran into the bus without talking to anyone, while Stu ran to the bar down the street with the Aislers Set. Oh well.... Everything goes downhill from that perfect moment..... I'd also like to say hi and thanks to everyone who I met and talked to this weekend! (Chicago, Michigan representin') You all were so nice, I love you to pieces. You know who you are...... Back to hiding (until the pictures come in!), rachel cornflake P.S. if anyone has any pictures of me dancing like a chimp, e-mail me! I'll offer lots of love or cash. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 15:05:42 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:05:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: egg-free muffins anyone? Message-ID: Hello to all the lovely sinister people out there who care about what I have to say. As for the rest of the population, well, they can go to hell for all I care. So I know I haven't posted in three, four months, but do not blame me, blame my mother for "accidentally" cutting off my internet connection at home and the inspiration fairy for not giving me anything interesting to talk about. So hello again to all the sinisterines who were all on the list when I was at my peak of posting (at which point I posted just about everyday with useless rambling which I hope was mildly amusing at least), and all the new sinisterines (my friend, RACHEL, who is in nursery, is now on the list, let's all give her a group hug and a big, big welcome to make her feel... welcome..)! My major reason for posting was to promote the welcoming party of my friend Rachel, so now I have run out of things to talk about. B&S content: someone tipped me off that Belle and Sebastian are playing in New York next year, at possibly Radio City Hall. (Sorry, John, I've beaten you to it.) So all sinister people in New York should rejoice! (unless you though Jonathan David was crap.) Did I tell you that I turned vegan? I probably did, since it happened in early June. So my summer was action-filled (studying chinese and physics) and so much fun (so much sleep) and I was just so busy (trying to work off my immense flesh that I've gained over the year) that I had become a lurker who hadn't read much sinister reading material in the past three months, but now I'm back, and I've been reading all the posts, and now I'm posting, too! My apologies to Kevin Pierce (I think that's what his name was) for promising a postcard and never sending one. I will, soon, if you still want it. And that other person who kindly replied me about the Angelina Jolie incident (as I said, I hadn't been paying attention and had to be scolded and spanked), I was checking my email on another friend's computer and AOL deleted all my old mail, so I can't reply and send you a thank you card. But thank you. This is getting long. I must refine my posting skills again.. cheers, hye min xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 15:09:26 2001 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:09:26 Subject: Sinister: The Ladybird's House Message-ID: For show and tell today, I would like to tell the class about the new movie "Ghost World". I can't show the movie because Mom told me that I would go to jail for violating copyrights and stuff. Ghost World is a movie by Terry Zwigoff (Crumb); its based on Daniel Clowe's series of adult comics. I would call this movie the modern "Catcher in the Rye". Its best suited for kids who are in-between high school and college or people who are generally misanthropic. Steve Buscemi plays a pathetic and socially isolated record collector- his character is terrifying because it might be the future for indie kids. There are bits of cleverness throughout the movie but my favorite scene is when Thora Birch wears an S&M catgirl mask under her black frame glasses. Its very cute. If you happen to live in a lucky city that is showing this movie, then go to it. My dad brought me episodes of The Real World and Road Rules that he taped; I don't get cable. I'm been hopelessly addicted to "reality shows" since they began in 1991. I get kind of sad when I watch them now because they develop such great friendships, and I don't have very many friends near by. This might be the summer-fades-to-fall syndrome in which I pity myself for being socially isolated, but it sucks being a 23 year old single kid (or at least I feel like a kid) in a new town. Why can't you all live closer? Noddy was the best toy. Acutally, I only had the books, but I bet those with Noddy toys are very well adjusted. If only I had a noddy toy! I know too much about toys now that I work in a toy store, but I love it. This is the first time I've really enjoyed work. I'm a bit miffed that the manager and I are the only one's who have graduated college, but I keep reminding myself that this is only a transitional phase in my life where I'm saving money for Chicago, which, to be quite honest, will never happen if my brother insists that I pay for the tuxedo I'm wearing to his wedding, but now I'm a month ahead and that will be another post entirely. Lemon sugar pancakes, Colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 16:41:30 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: wheres a legal man when you need one??? Message-ID: <20010910154130.16470.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> ... especially when your damn agency (Office Angels) won't pay you the 200 quid they still owe you and feign forgetfulness when you call and mention it? And that, by the way, folks, is outstanding for two jobs- one at the start of April the other at the start of August. grrr. On the plus side, I've been busy updating the Point of Isolation website... http://everything.at/point_of_isolation have a look... its got some of the interview questions and answers we've had fom the likes of Jeff Mueller (bloke from Rodan, June of 44, Shipping News...) Sputniks Down, Sennen and a bunch of others as well. Bad news.... my brother is going to be moving out soon, and has the nerve to take his own computer with him. This will severely affect my internet abuse/use and means I'll probably only be able to get online at weekends in an internet cafe. But when I start working I'm gonna start saving up for my own computer. Unless anyone wants to donate me a nice shiny one with internet conection.... (e mail me before the 21st!!!) good news... me and idlebloke are off up North to Inverness for a few days and then onto Fort William. and thats all I have to say right now. I better go.. ironing needs done. Still not happy about not getting PAID. love, idles PS. if you fancy seeing the website, complete with e mail addys for the AGENCY THAT AREN'T PAYING ME its here... http://www.officeangels.co.uk/profile/profile_frame.htm I can't stop you, and I won't. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gltitchener at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 17:06:52 2001 From: gltitchener at xxx.com (gina titchener) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:06:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the music is groovy-it makes you feel happy like an old time movie Message-ID: hello beautiful sinister the posts lately have indeed been wonderful. i'm afraid i may disrupt this pattern of events. i shall try my best, but i am a mere maths student.... * i asked the lord for a sign to tell me whether or not to post - and lo! a two seater open top car driven by two lovely young ladies painted in quarters of blue and silver drove down kent street with a man-sized red bull can attached to the back. and i knew ken chu had spoken. * i spent saturday night sat on a bench, staring at the silent waters of the ouse and the reflections of the light given out from the street lights on the other side of the river, next to the most expensive apartments in york full of the most happy and successful people in york. i was sat with two people i like to call friends. they are not your average man in the street and they do not have his history. i think they wish they did. they do not wish for their own. they are not the most happy people in york. when you look at the reflections of street lights in a river, it looks as if they are all pointing straight at you. (it is a rather unsettling apparition but perfectly explicable) * i started reading pynchon's vineland but it moves too slow and too fast instead, reading de beauvoir's the mandarins - she's so underrated * the sini-star that is known by the name asm is to arrive in york in less than four weeks, along with the rest of the currently disbanded york massive. i am immensely excited, and also scared. are there any more recruits to our cult this year? in two years' time we will be reduced to one, so we need new stock with in that time. please A-level students (or whatever the kids are doing these days) consider coming here - we're really nice, and the uni's very good. * as-close-to-content-as-i'm-gonna-get: I have been working out violin parts on my �2.50 recorder (i miss my delicate little violin and its less-than delicate voice. it remains in coventry, with out a g-string. cue sniggering ). if anyone wants a vague idea of the solos in miraculous technique and carriage clock, give me a bell. and if anyone has any requests for other parts - well, you'll have to sign this piece of paper and wait till 1 am to see if i'll do it. * specific people i need to 'shout out to': Michelle, your tape is 2/3rds done. it will prolly take another week to get there. Adam: i shall work the rhythm out tonight, send it you...soon. Chris, i did what you said to your account but it still wasn't happy. and Jonny, if you're listening, oonagh's mail scared the crap out of me! cheers, that saved me 4 mails. * I am supposed to be home for 5 o'clock in order to let in a guest (my housemate got embarrassingly drunk last week and invited a stranger to stay at our house whilst he himself is out at work, which means i have to be in. luckily, the man in question, whilst being 35, looks and sounds like a scared camp trainee maths teacher, so i'm not too worried about being alone with him) hence i am going to leave you, to press (or click on, i don't discriminate against internet based account users) delete in peace, if you haven't already done so. i just *know* there was more that needed to be said about other thoughts, but i am hungry and weak and late and stupid. very stupid. oh and would-be guitar players - be patient with your self. it takes time, not just passion. goodbye children love gina x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From farrell_danny at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 17:06:11 2001 From: farrell_danny at xxx.com (Danny Farrell) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:06:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The future's looking colourful Message-ID: Thats me back from Blackpool with the friend-girl.I love fairs but sometimes they make me suffer from age-envy. Its still grate as an adult but when you're a kid everything seems so much bigger and more exciting and generally more alive. It was still grate though because the friend-girl kept hugging me and holding my hand and making eyes at me,looking into my eyes and just drifting away somewhere else while her pupils dilate to huge proportions, I love it when people make eyes at me i could watch it for hours, and then she fell asleep hugging me on the way home. Now i have hope and hope is a grate thing but sometimes its bad too because if things go wrong then its worse,sometimes i think its better to go through life not hoping or expecting anything but then i think thats silly, so maybe i will hope but not too much. I was also lucky enough to be "allowed" to listen to Tigermilk on the way there without being hounded and shouted at, and then Sinister and Boy With on the way home. The moral of the story is as long as you're doing something really nice for someone then they might let you listen to B&S without taking the tape out the stereo and throwing it out the window. I even seen people with Belle&Sebastian badges and they looked really Twee and i wanted to say hello to them but i was scared to because i wasn't wearing my badges but i did smile at them as i walked past and heard them talking about how they should play B&S through the whole of the pleasure beach.I think that would be grate. Does anyone having any recordings of any sort of the recent Belle&Sebastian gigs (including the UK ones)? I'd really love to get a hold of one so if u have could you e-mail me off list and i'll try and come up with a suitable re-imbursment for a live B&S taping.Hmmmmm half the kingdom and a young princess is probably the going rate :) Oh yeh it seems that my friend Alan has finally decided to take off his diaper and spit out his dummy and descend into the world of sinister. He even wrote a story about me and name-dropped copiously. I have a story about him but i wont subject the list to it, yet ;) Anyway to echo my friend and Ken Chu - The Red Bull Dosers are grate and you should download their songs from www.AskKenChuOrWaitForHisNextMail.Com -My favourite is Christmas so cold. Sorry for boring everyone with my limited content - i'll try and not do it again Danny xxx "I swear it's not her beauty,its something inside" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Mon Sep 10 17:36:58 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:36:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S new single ... Message-ID: <003401c13a16$f4b552e0$9426fea9@katrina> following on from Matador's (incorrect) announcement ... Belle and Sebastian are to release another single on November 12th 2001. The title track is called "The Season Has Arrived" and the single also features "I Love My Car" - a live favourite from the recent UK shows - and the previously unheard "Marx and Engels". hope this clears things up. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonesomegeorge at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 18:36:20 2001 From: lonesomegeorge at xxx.com (dean w) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:36:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: SF gig, any love out there? Message-ID: Oh yes, if anyone does have any tapes of these recent gigs, please please email me directly. I've got a ton of great stuff to trade. Also, I'd be interested to hear the SF setlist from last night (9/9). I was there, but didn't know a few tunes. What an amazing moment, when they came out on stage, the crowd cheered for a minute, then fell silent when the first bit of Sleep the Clock Around became lightly audible. It was surreal to have a packed house in the Warfield, but no one makes a sound, just the band up there playing a tune I'm only used to hearing on my stereo. I was dreaming the entire evening. (((((((((((((((((((((((Dean)))))))))))))))))))))))) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clj106 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 10 21:05:32 2001 From: clj106 at xxx.uk (mummy i've grazed my knee) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:05:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Buses are sad/Riding is a living Message-ID: <004501c13a34$20a3ca40$1fec86d9@chris> I CRIED...AGAIN For the second time in as many weeks, a post made me cry. Perhaps someone had better tie something to my private parts. Danny Farrell made me think of my friend-girl and her eyes. We met through Belle And Sebastian you know. She saw my bus t-shirt and I said yippee. We listened to the Field Mice for hours. Hmmmm EVERYONE'S COMING OUT Which is nice. It's lovely to see so many new people prompted to post through the wonderfulness of seeing The Belle And Sebastian. Struan is the most wonderful performer ever and he tells charming post gig stories about motorbikes and seaside's. EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING IN Where are all the big guns? Is it the official sinister holiday or something? It looks like you've left Ken and Idles in charge and all gone off for a jolly jaunt. Don't get me wrong, it's lovely to see all the new people and to feel safe under the Chu's watchful eye, but if only the Pine Fox could see me wandering the streets at night, lost and confused, reading council notice boards and talking to the sparrows. Poop poop, here comes the smiley bus bound for sunny town and the moon people. NEW SINGLE Oh Matador, how could you! I suffer from the eagerness of youth sometimes. You just have to spit stuff out because you are so desperate to tell everybody the happy thoughts bounding around in your mind. The one about the season was played in Ipswich according to Mr. Halifax. I remember Struan needing the words, but it was a jolly ditty. I Love My Car was pretty, although a little strange time signature wise. They said it was like Dexy's Midnight Runners. Homer beat them. I'M OFF I won't be posting until I go back to uni because I keep getting messages telling me that CL Jones' inbox is too full. I wish someone would tell him. Don't think you can run riot though. I will still be watching and listening. Mark Cassarotto and Asm Walton are waiting in the wings to defame me, I know, but I have eyes and ears and also a nose. Hello Peter Carter Chris Jones. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 21:48:04 2001 From: wilska at xxx.com (Emily Wilska) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:48:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the memory of a fab show takes a long time to pass you by Message-ID: <37C3476607141849A65191FB44C1D573057BC005@svc-msg-03.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> Salut, I'm sure this will all have been covered by the time this message makes it to you, but dammit, I'm gonna say it anyway: Sunday's San Francisco show was purely fantastic. No, really, it was, despite the overzealous (and, as the show wore on, increasingly drunk) woman whose job entailed keeping the fire aisles on the floor clear; despite the very tall woman who kept trying to push in front of me; despite the fact that I had the chance to chat up the cute boy in the funny fur hat standing near us and I didn't take it. None of these things could prevent Jonathan Richman from being darling, and B&S from being straight-up splendor. Someone else will, I hope, post the set list in proper order. I will simply say that the 'Flowers in Your Hair' song (which may be called, creatively, 'San Francisco') was charming to the tips of my toes; 'Simple Things', 'Judy and the Dream of Horses', and 'You Made Me Forget My Dreams' were among my faves, and the whole 'Billie Jean' interlude was fantastic beyond words. The moonwalking drum tech was something to behold, as was Stevie-as-MJ. When Stuart picked up the Thriller cd from the piano, I yelled out 'Ebony and Ivory!', only to realize that that's in fact Stevie Wonder (not Michael Jackson) and Paul McCartney. Regardless, he did give us a few bars of it, which was swell. Tempted as I was to attempt to follow the band post-show (to Café du Nord?), I did the 'responsible' (using the term loosely) thing and went home so I wouldn't be too useless today at work. As such, if anyone has reports of after-gig shenanigans, I'd love to hear them. It's always a bit of a letdown, isn't it, to return to real life and work after a few hours in which everything--absolutely everything--seems to glow. For now, I'll just try to take that and run with it. xo Emily +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Mon Sep 10 22:45:08 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:45:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Super Heroes (and their alter-egos) Message-ID: Do you want to be a Sinister Super Hero? Can you kick ass/arse? Do you look simply stunning in lycra? Do you have an allitervative name? Do you want to join our gang? So far, our crime fighting, ass kicking members are: myself (Madeleine McNeil), Kirsten Kenyon (aka Kirsten Keg Queen), John Jennings (aka JPFine), Laura Llew (aka The Millkmaid) and Stacey Shackford (aka Dahling). We assume undercover jobs, such as journalist, student, book seller. We mingle among the ordinary folk. We watch them as they commit crimes, misdemeanors or random acts of kindness (the latter is rarer than we would like, and is always rewarded with a snog and a quick flash). And we wait. We sit by the red intercom, smoking fags and drinking gin, until we hear the crackle, then the dulcet tones of Boss Mummy Honey. She is the Charlie to our Angels, the Arthur to our Batman and Robin, the M to our Bond, the Mrs McClusky to our Zammo, the Holly to our Rimmer. And so on and so on. So, wanna join our gang? If you aren't as alliterative and special as us, never fear. We are watching, and we will kick ass on your behalf. Just call (and promise gin, cigarettes, CDs, hard cash, t shirts and Luncheon Vouchers) and we'll be there, to right the wrongs. Love Madeleine McNeil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 03:11:03 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:11:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'll write something about B&S in my next post, no really! Message-ID: I was 10 year's old and in year 6 at school. Just back from our summer hol's and the talk was of parties, you know the sort... Plan was... I'd supply class 6SGO with the alcohol and in return I could come along to Abby Kerswell's "party". Wow! These dealing's obviously had to be rather covert so as not to arrouse teachers suspicions and being the mastermind behind the opperation I decided that we sould meet in The "Humanities" computor room as this seemed to be the dimly lit "Black market" of Thomas Estley Community College. All was going well with only the slightest "chink" "chink" from my bag as I strolled down the corridor, sat down at a desk and proceded to look busy at something. Along came *the lager collecters* Steve Tylas and his sidekick Jamie Doy. "Right, Danson-'atcher ah ya got our booze then?". a suitably dodgy looking paper-bag was passed under the table and the contents examined for authenticity or something. They slithered off, after a respectful nod in my direction. Later that day whilst skiving in the library I was again confronted by said duo. After looking around cautiously, Jamie enquired again regarding the next *shipment*. "Errr, hang on a minute" I exclaimed, "I didn't realise this was an ongoing thing, just thought it was for this party" O well, it turned out he would give me a fiver for the next six bottles and this seemed like a good deal being as I'd got them for free, smuggling from the parent's cache. So the next day I implemented stage one of my get rich quick scheme and again the computor room was selected as our point of exchange. This again went really well, untill..... ..... I'd got a dodgy zip on my bag and English teacher Mrs Drake happened to notice the illegal cargo on board. A tap on the shoulder and a "follow me please Mr Danson-Hatcher" preceded a long wait in the staff room and interigation of the "I think your parent's should be informed about this" kind. Sure enough my mum turned up looking very confused at being called to collect me. Not a word was spoken until we got back home. "So, James" she asked "who's this mystery girl I've been hearing about from your headmistress?" "and what have you and her been up to so as I am called out to pick you up?" Now I was PROPER confused. Girl? Indeed WHO was this girl she'd been told about? I thought I'd been sent home cos I had all this lager in my bag. The mystery is now cleared up. After many a year wondering just what on earth that day was all about I was talking to my mum over lunchtime and she happened to mention what the Headmistress had said to her. I was something along the lines of... "Hello Mrs Danson-Hatcher, sorry to tell you this but your son has been caught with Stella again, could you please come and collect him, At once!" Ten years old and caught with Stella! what were we up to? The moral of this story is....Good communication is a good idea. and.. .....If you've read this FAR then you're an absolute STAR. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 13:18:25 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 05:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the damn ham and other stories. Message-ID: <20010911121825.6012.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> aaaarrrrgh! running around trying to get ready to go on hols with boyfiend- going to Inverness, where we're hoping to meet up with the adorable john john. Will we go to a cafe? will we go ice skating? will we entice John john to join in our deviant nonsense? or will I end up buying us all milkshakes. Then off to Fort William to stay in a swanky hotel. running around, I stopped for a moment, wondering if B+S are like this before a tour. You have all the good intentions of packing plans, but when it comes down to it, you see a lipstick, or you think "I might need an extra paid of socks" and run around.. and then you consider that you might be doing something that requires a good pair of Ken Chus(idle's entry for sinisterian ryhming slang- Ken Chus= shoes), rather than trainers. hmm. quite. so, anyway, I found out today that my camera is in East Kilbride, in the back of my dads car after a wedding we went to, and that my mum has said au revoir on my behalf to my docs. But I've had them since I was 15! and now I need them! and now they're somewhere in a dump cos she threw them out! I only told her to chuck my old Converse and Sketcher platform trainers! Not the DMs, not the DMs!!! As it goes, you always need the things that get chucked only days before. Ho hum. hopefully my trainers will suffice up in the hills. And what is that subject line all about? oh,I cursed the sandwich meat, the ham, cos I couldn't get the pack to open so I could have it on my sandwich for lunch. Had a filling done on my tooth today. my mouth felt all lumpy and numb afterwards. Saw the neighbours kitten playing outside- he's only just been allowed to go out. Hes all lovely now, but I bet once he reaches adulthood, he'll be nasty and snarly and surly, like tomcats can be. Til the vet gets them. heh heh heh heh heh. Saw the other neighbours puppy, an adorable red setter, all legs and tails and bouncy and happy and exitable. Although she was sent off to puppy training school while the family went on holiday. went to a ewdding at the weekend. It was my brothers birthday and he tried to pull using the line "Its my birthday, dance with me" or words to that effect. Worked a treat, I have to say. Except me and my dad sniggered and pointed as he boogied with some girl. And my mum acted all shocked, as my mum generally does. No more gossip from me right now. I'll probably buy a wee disposable camera and take photos, but I was so wanting to hae my flashy expensive camera to take photos on the trip. back Saturday. later, idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Tue Sep 11 15:40:51 2001 From: geoff at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:40:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: disaster Message-ID: Thoughts of care to all. I turned on BBC news 24 at 2pm. The world trade centre had been hit by an aircraft. As I watched, another plane crashed into the other tower, causing a huge explosion. These pictures will be played and replayed. A mixture of horror and sick, sick excitement. George Bush vowing "hunt them down". Minutes later we heard that a third plane had been hijacked. We saw pictures of smoke and explosions in Washington. The White House? No, The Pentagon. Fucking Hell. g +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 16:37:06 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: disaster Message-ID: <20964460.1000222626909.JavaMail.imail@puffer> what a day to be a newsie. i got up this morning to hammers pounding in the apartment next to mine. so i got out of bed and got dressed. i put on my news girl t-shirt from the newsium. ten minutes later my roommate came home and told me about the national crisis. so now i'm here at the paper getting on a localized story about classes being cancelled. i'm afraid for the air force base in omaha. everyone here is afraid for war. what a day to be a newsie. lindsey _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 17:23:07 2001 From: jasonandreas at xxx.com (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:23:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: American Disaster Message-ID: <002e01c13ade$0ca25340$9e457ad5@oemcomputer> My thoughts are with you all. I'm in tears watching this on the news. A day that will go down in history as the worst in America's history. I hope you are all safe. Pray for those who are not, and pray especially for the families and friends of those who are. - Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kitsapcd at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 17:36:15 2001 From: kitsapcd at xxx.com (KitsapCD - Bremerton) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister NYC Message-ID: <20010911163615.48133.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Any sinister-types in NYC please let us know you're all alright. What the fuck is going on in the world? Sorry this didn't take 15 minutes. Jen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Tue Sep 11 18:54:58 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:54:58 Subject: Sinister: Terrorattack. Message-ID: <157566307@spray.se> You probably all know by now. My thoughts are with all of you in America, and for those and them who´ve lost anyone today. I know this is probably list abuse, but those pictures from the tv or the voices from the radio won´t go away. It just feels very important to write this, even though some other posts already have the same kind of content. Love to you all. My thoughts are with you. Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 17:59:56 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:59:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: I stepped out of my room this morning and everything changed Message-ID: <116.469f2f9.28cf9d0c@aol.com> I just wanted to go to the bathroom. My friend Katie pulled me in to her room to look at the television. One tower was gone. The pentagon is in flames. Planes are missing. I've just been at college for barely over one week and now planes leaving from an airport that is ten minutes from where I'm sitting right now are being hijacked. Crashing into important buildings. Car bombs are blowing up all over New York. My uncle is a pilot. We can't get in touch with him. All the girls from New York on my floor can't reach their families. I've never been this genuinely scared before. Kara* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmhyde at xxx.edu Tue Sep 11 18:13:03 2001 From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: evil Message-ID: <1000228383.3b9e461f94fa6@webmail1.wm.edu> I can't believe anything like this. My Dad left me a voice message detailing what happened, and when. Helplessness comes to mind. The pure and vile wickedness of this attack are incomprehensible to me. The rage I feel is unbounded. When I first heard, all I wanted to do was curl up into a ball and cry. I don;t know what to say. I just wanted to write. thanks, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 18:29:32 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:29:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: NY disaster (there's already been a few messages about this) Message-ID: <00bb01c13ae7$5549a270$9865fea9@fallahome> Hello everyone, It was just another quiet day until I got a phone call from a relative to turn on the TV, and - the World Trade Center is no more. Hard to believe that it's gone, and there's a huge possibility that The White House could be next. All I can say is, my sincerest condolences to all those who have been affected by the accident in some way or another. Take care, Psi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 18:50:05 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:50:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: This has been said Message-ID: <88.c371d33.28cfa8cd@aol.com> Hewwo, People already said all this, but eek. People are dead and stuff. And there were these little kids on the new, little arab kids cheering and being given sweets by their parents because they were happy about it. And they showed you people jumping out of the windows of that big tall place in new york. And they went on for hours and hours about how it was going to collapse the world economy, which i don't think anyone really gives a damn about while that many human beings could be dead. And George Bush was on the telly being illiterate and a complete retard. I'm sure everyone feels really safe knowing that the worlds most powerful country in a time of crisis lies in the hands of a Texan inbred. Its a really good job B&S didn't play New York, or half of sinister could have been there at the time. My boyfriend was in LA at the time, I'm glad he's not dead. My friend's boyfriend might be dead. We don't know yet, the lines are jammed. I hope you're all alive and stuff. It lacks swellness, it really does. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:05:26 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:05:26 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Is it War? Message-ID: <004a01c13aec$55d50040$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net> Feels like it. Waiting for the next blow, not knowing where or when... things are quiet on the west coast so far. My friend who lives in the shadow of the Towers stood on her fire escape and watched the 2nd plane slam into the building, and watched both towers crumble. Panic of possible bio-chemicals is the talk of the city now. Unconfirmed though. I was dreaming about Woody Allen this morning, as this was happening. Then I woke up to the ringing phone, and all this. All those lives. And that skyline, never ever the same again. Love to you all, and everyone hit by this. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stateofemergncy at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:04:58 2001 From: stateofemergncy at xxx.com (a poor excuse for avant garde) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:04:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the commute Message-ID: the most eerie commute today. by the time i was out the door, i was already flooded with too much to stomach. even now, it's just so surreal and barely coming into my grip of reality. tuned to NPR, i was amazed that someone was talking about this constituting an act of war from palestine, that a strike against the middle east countries IS going to happen and that all foreign policy is going to be flipped over. never thought i'd hear something blanketing like that come from NPR. a half mile away from work, news of the second tower collapsing came on the radio. at the moment, the commute slowed down and collected into a solid column of cars that paused for a second. i've never seen such a thing in LA happen because of something other than a car accident. when i got to work, the parking lot was next to desolate. it looked like a regular day until i saw the faces of people leaving the building. hellos without smiles and reciprocating the motions. felt like i was at a funeral. people were in tears or in disbelief...i couldn't imagine any work going on. some people tried to work, but i doubt they got much done. then the supervisor called everyone in... notified us that the board of supervisors (for the county of LA) has ordered that the only function to be done today was finish the payroll, and that only the bare-bones people needed to print and approve them were asked to stay. everyone else was asked to leave the building, for safety measure. sorry, i can't write too well right now... there's just too much to even stomach... life itself is standing still, saturated with all of this. i just had to say something. i'm sorry... i'm sorry that this had to be my first post on sinister... that it's this choppy in substance and that it had to be about this. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:12:15 2001 From: michael at xxx.com (Michael Vance) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:12:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Humms Message-ID: <20010911111215.J11520@CBL012.pool009.CH001-glendale.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net> I just wanted to say that reading all the notes is making things a little more normal and less despondent, at least here in LA. My mother called from PA this morning, almost hysterical, my friend Kristen's husband is being shipped out, and luckily my friend Bryan is safe even though he works at 11 Broadway, just blocks from the WTC.. I'm at work, but I just want to go to the zendo, or the dojo, and sit and be centered... Thanks again, m. -- "To be able to trust and rely on another person is the most valuable gift in this world to give and to receive." -- Sensei Furuya +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:27:52 2001 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Is it War? Message-ID: I hate these people that did this. I hate them for killing. I hate them for making me feel hate...and anger..and disgust. I'm in boston where apparently two planes were hijacked one of them crashed into the second tower. I've gone through the mental panic of going through all my friends and loved ones trying to recall if any of them were going to LA or flying out of Logan at all today or this week or this month... I hate not knowing.. I know i'm not very twee....I don't like courdoroy, or plaid and i like heavier music like Rodan and June of '44 as well as beautiful music like B&S. and now I feel hurt and hate and disgust at being a human. Even if the buildings had been completely empty this would have bothered me terribly. There's a thin veneer on all of us that keeps us civilized. I know people look at the WTC and see greed and corruption and capitalism and oppression but acknowledging those things I still always see civilization, common achievment and pride. Not some jingoistic nationalism, I've felt the same in London and Edinburgh and Montreal other cities...it's this ability to live together and hold up civilization and prevent us for being atavistic base mammals. I'm sorry. i don't post very often and i know you probably don't care about my emotional turmoil. but a spleen venting was needed. I hope you all are safe cause there's really no security right now. jeff. >From: "Brier Random" >Reply-To: "Brier Random" >To: "Sinister" >Subject: Sinister: Is it War? >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:05:26 -0700 > >Feels like it. Waiting for the next blow, not knowing where or when... >things are quiet on the west coast so far. > >My friend who lives in the shadow of the Towers stood on her fire escape >and >watched the 2nd plane slam into the building, and watched both towers >crumble. > >Panic of possible bio-chemicals is the talk of the city now. Unconfirmed >though. > >I was dreaming about Woody Allen this morning, as this was happening. Then >I woke up to the ringing phone, and all this. > >All those lives. And that skyline, never ever the same again. > > >Love to you all, and everyone hit by this. > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:44:11 2001 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela _) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:44:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ..... Message-ID: i have a request.... given the sensitve subject of today, and every one feeling bad enough as it is...can we have only compassionate & kind comments? just for today? the political angst tends to hurt my heart, especialy on days like today. the craziest part is ...belive it or not... i dreamnt this. i know your all saying yeah right...but i did. i dreamnt i was watching this on the news.. so i am freaked out enough as it is. save the nastiness of a day when people are not is such a state of dispair in humanity. my fear and belief is this is only the begining of the end of history. i pray for all of you, weather touched by this or not. love always Angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 19:48:17 2001 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Is it War? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010911184817.18053.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Most of the US congressmen have taken this attack as a declaration of war, they are probably going to declare it on the people responsible and the states that sponsered them. I did not want to live to see a real war in my lifetime, i guess i was foolish. This event made me physically sick. They are evil. killing civilians, no matter what position they have in life is wrong. Chris P. ===== www.mp3.com/sevenstars The fog and the sunlight overshadow what is really the point sometimes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 20:01:21 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: make love, not war Message-ID: <20010911190121.86640.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone, i never post, but thought i would in light of the situation in this country. it's just so sad to me to see such tragedy on what is supposed to be such a joyful day for me--seeing Belle and Sebastian for the first time. the whole feeling on campus is somber. we're all the way over in portland and we even feel it here. i don't feel like my city is in danger, but it's hard not to feel sad for those who are in danger. what a messed up day in american history. carmel ===== "please turn out the light i get a sick confusion headache trying to figure out who's right" *****Heatmiser***** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather_boa at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 20:03:20 2001 From: feather_boa at xxx.com (Feather Boa) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:03:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: no subject Message-ID: dear Sinister. oh God. i was doing work experience at the telegraph newspaper in canary wharf, having my lunch when it happened. what with it being a newspaper and all there was quite a lot of excitement but i felt sick. we had to get evacuated in case the planes came to london (canary wharf being the highest thing around). i went home before they closed the tube station. i think i might cry now. please let it be alright, and not the beginning of ww3 or anything. on a slightly lighter note b&s are in portland, oregon tonight. i'm glad they didn't tour the east coast. i feel better reading everyone else's posts. glad to know i'm not the only one. with love & hugs FB X _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rubens.suzuki at xxx.br Wed Sep 12 08:55:27 2001 From: rubens.suzuki at xxx.br (Rubens Suzuki) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:55:27 -0300 Subject: Sinister: ??? References: <20010911184817.18053.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005301c13b60$4bba8a20$e4feb1c8@n0l9r1> Be strong friends. We are all with you... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 20:07:57 2001 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:07:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ..... Message-ID: All I can urge is that everyone who is able donate blood do so today or tomorrow. That is the best gift you can give in all this turmoil. My prayers to everyone. Chrissy --Extraordinary how potent cheap music is-- ***Noel Coward*** > >i have a request.... >given the sensitve subject of today, and every one feeling bad enough as it >is...can we have only compassionate & kind comments? >just for today? >the political angst tends to hurt my heart, especialy on >days like today. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Tue Sep 11 20:29:10 2001 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:29:10 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:32:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c13af8$8e942b20$0295fea9@tangents1> Sometimes the beautiful world just seems to escape from view so all you can see is some scary apparition that's like a cloud of hate, and when that happens it just makes you want to curl up and bawl. I've been walking around in a daze all night. I can't eat, my head feels like it's going to explode, and every time I close my eyes I see those images and my insides tear themselves out and the tears come flooding again, and again and again... I'm not religious. I don't pray, but as I'm sure lots of people like me are doing, I'm praying tonight because it somehow feels like it's all I can do. I'm praying for all my friends of course, but I'm praying for everyone in New York and DC, and the USA in general. And of course, most of all I'm praying for humanity. Now, more than ever, Keep The Faith. Alistair Tangents the home of unpopular culture www.tangents.co.uk editor at tangents.co.uk po box 102, exeter, ex4 6za, uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adevens at xxx.edu Tue Sep 11 15:39:30 2001 From: adevens at xxx.edu (adevens at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:39:30 US/Eastern Subject: Sinister: nothing i could come up with would really make sense Message-ID: <200109111939.f8BJdU427241@college.antioch-college.edu> hi all, i just wanted to let everyone know that the sinister people in nyc, or at least will, julie, phil, laurel, brian, ben, lucas, and me are all ok and in no danger. i went outside today and the ash was so thick (in brooklyn, nowhere near what happened) that it covered my glasses. this is insane, that's all i can think. i'm heading back to seattle soon, i could have flown today. that thought scares me quite a lot. i'm sure it will all be alright, i just hope it's alright soon. sorry if this was badly written, i'm not speaking from very much sleep or a clear head. i hope everyone everywhere is ok. arik +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:51:41 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:51:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: bad things, etc Message-ID: hi everyone. i have been on the list for awhile but mostly remain mute. i live in the states...chicago. it has been an awful day for everyone in the world as we all know and i just wanted to say that i love you all. even though ive not met any of you i hope you are all safe and sound in your respective necks of the woods. ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 20:51:42 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:51:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Words fail Message-ID: It's just too fucking heavy. The weird thing is that I'm not normalizing. I'm not recovering. The shock just keeps running deeper. The stunned feeling grows more pervasive. I can't even say I feel anything in particular, just shaken. I didn't actually start to write to share any of this. What originally made me think to post was Red Geisha's post about donating blood. From what I hear, lines are running out the door at most blood centers. Give someone a call and see if they can even take you today but if you don't go today or this week still go. Blood supplies will be depleted for months after this. I don't know what else we can do. I fear the aftermath more than anything. There will be some serious scapegoating. Rest assured, the U.S. is gonna bomb the shit out of somebody real soon and they'll call it healing. It probably won't even be the right people. The racist propaganda is already starting; the news is showing footage of Palestinians celebrating on the West Bank. How does that help? -Rinaldo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toadie291 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 23:07:41 2001 From: toadie291 at xxx.com (toadie291 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:07:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Words fail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i know what you mean. i have been glued to my telly all morning and everytime i see the footage of those buildings going down, it shocks me just as much as it did at 845 this morning or whevever it was. i just saw footage of the west bank..they are having celebrations on the streets, parades, etc. that is so sick. and im not just saying that because im american and it was my country this happened in. hate governments if you want to. protest against policies, etc. but today thousands and thousands of people, totally unrelated to anything, were killed for absolutely no reason. id like to say that im above war and think its crazy...and rationally i suppose i do. the thing that i think is scarrier than what happened is the fact that some bastards somewhere think that they are heroes for having "accomplished" it. what a sad scary place the world is. :o( ~stine +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 20:07:06 2001 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:07:06 Subject: Sinister: helpless sorrow Message-ID: I'm in shock. Among other things. I have more emotions rushing through my head than at any other time I can remember - hate, pity, intense sorrow, anger, impotence, fear, ignorance, revulsion, disturbance, more and more. I was in Camden when the news broke. There was a tramp staggering about shouting "THE END IS NIGH! THE PENTAGON'S BEEN DONE". And he might be right. We don't know. What I do know is that suddenly everything seems inappropriate. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire is on telly. The news image of people waving from the upper stories of the building is the most harrowing if you ask me. I am safe in assuming that there will be quite a few people on Sinister with Godspeed You Black Emperor's EP, Slow Riot For A New Zero Kanada. The second track on that record is horribly poignant. I'll echo the thoughts of the Duke: I'm not religious in the least, but my most heart-felt "prayers" go out to everybody in NYC, Washington DC and Pensylvania. Good to hear that most of you are okay. But could Mr Eric The Half A Bee please show his face? love, S.x ================= "Shut up! The man's a demi-god!" - Mary-Anne Hobbs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 21:29:51 2001 From: MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com (MotherSuperior8 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:29:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm afraid I've nothing flowery to say Message-ID: <97.1b0dcfc4.28cfce3f@aol.com> I don't usually post unless I've got B&S tickets to sell or something, but I felt that I should add my voice to all the others and give my condolences to any of those affected by today's tragedy. And as appalled as I am by what happened and no matter how many times I flip off the little kids on the television in Palestine laughing and flashing peace signs out of joy for the blow given to "the head of the snake" today I desperately hope that this doesn't escalate into a war. Leah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Tue Sep 11 22:51:09 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:51:09 Subject: Sinister: Together. Message-ID: <157649057@spray.se> Even though I am just a 15-year old swedish girl, I feel with all of you. The telly have been having a specialevening, with just clips and guests. All the musicchannels have taken back their shows or stuff like that to show their respect. In this time - when I allow myself to say that I think that all of us have been thinking about WW3 and stuff like that - It´s good to have sinister. Just people at all. But just knowing that all of you out there, from all over the world, are together. I´ve talked loads on the phone tonight with my friends, but still, i don´t think i´ve really gotten it. I was at the youth club when one of the leaders, Richard, who always have to joke, shouted "Pentagon-on fire-terrorists-WTC!" I just thought "Oh lovely, he´s acually gone mental" but then we all went to the telly room, and saw. One of the other leaders, and also my friend, Robin said: "I think I have to go out of this room, instantly. Or else I will cry". I´ve cried tonight, very much, but It´s just when i cry that I actually realise. Elsehow, It´s just a sick and absurd dream that I am sure that I will wake up from any minute now. Just being together really helps. I promise. Prayig for you all Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Sep 11 21:56:54 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:56:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: disbelief Message-ID: <20010911205654.61350.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Disbelief I can't express everything I've felt about everything I've seen and heard today. I've been shocked, sick, afraid and deeply saddened. The images will never go away. My sincere condolences to everyone in the US who has been the slightest bit affected by today's terrible events. The news of so many people rushing to give blood or help in any way has been encouraging. Humanity's best and truest spirit seems to shine brightest in the face of disaster. The political fallout from this is frightening. Talk of war and reprisals with few ideas about who is to be punished. Indiscriminate hate must not be met with more indiscriminate hate. That's all. Sorry it's a little incoherent. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:14:24 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:14:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This day will go down in infamy Message-ID: All I did all day from 1.30pm was watch CNN, Reuters wires, BBC tv and radio and Sky news. All that matters is this. Nothing can make me think of anything else. Fuck music, fuck my mundane moans about stuff that doesnt matter. B&S have a single out in November. I dont care about it. fuck it, don't release it. Couldnt care if I never hear it. Two weeks ago I was under the World Trade Center. It could have been me. I know people through work in the WTC. Fuck knows how they are; lower manhatten has no communication facilities anymore. Seeing the tower collapse live is something that I will never forget. watching a pub descend into absolute silence as Tony Blair, our Prime Minister made a state of the nation type speech was moving beyond words What at 1.30pm GMT seemed to be a tragic accident has turned into the worst nightmare possible. God help anyone there. How many people have died? Numbers don't matter. think of the families. And may God take terrible revenge upon those currently dancing in the streets celebrating this tragedy. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:21:38 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: how did the world end up here? Message-ID: <20010911212138.57838.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> hello.. ..i dont really have anything new to say...i started hearing stuff around three o clock at work...what i thought were stupid exageratted stories...then they let us out an hour early....i saw the pictures on the tv screens as i walked home...a group of people just stood staring into the electrical shop windows...trying to comprehend something so sickeningly awful...something that would have been dreamt up by a hollywood scriptwriter and should have stayed there..and then its real...i dont think i'll ever get my head around how people can do this to each other...i wish that those responsible could read the posts that i've seen today...the fear and pain and anguish that they've caused...and they could also see that whatever happens and however fucked the world gets and whatever pain they cause, peoples hope and love and the goodness of their hearts always gets through in the end...hate breeds hate and i dont think the cycle ever ends...events like today reminded me of this fact in the most horryfying way...Bush,Blair Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden may arm themselves to the teeth and blow seven tons of shit out of the world but they'll always find something new to argue about..i just hold out hope that they'll never crush the human spirit...this is bullshit to the people whove lost those that they've love today or any other day becuase i cant even begin to possibly imagine how they feel...i just hope things work out...because right now the world seems a sad scary and very lonely place... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wmh74 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 21:28:38 2001 From: wmh74 at xxx.com (William Harris) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:28:38 Subject: Sinister: I can't think of anything appropriate Message-ID: Dearest Comrades, Before I go home from work to attempt (in some way) to make today's events somehow seem real (for now they seem sadly like a bad movie) I ran across the following quote. "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They KNOW it's going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt." - Robert M. Pirsig in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" Of course no one knows (yet) who did it and I don't necessarily mean to imply it was a religious group, but I thought this was apt anyway in light of "the troubles" in N. Ireland, the bombings in Isreal, etc. This is a cold and hollow day. The mind boggles. Prayers and condolensences to those affected by today's doings. I must go home now to see if I have been... Bill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Tue Sep 11 22:26:31 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:26:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PORTLAND GIG IS ON!!! Message-ID: <000901c13b08$a00bf580$664cfea9@stephen> hello everyone, just spoken to neil and he says that tonights gig in Portland @ the Roseland Theatre is DEFINITELY going ahead. vancouver is a little more sketchy, so if you are travelling to vancouver for the show on thursday night, please ring the venue tomorrow as US/canadian border controls may have some bearing on what happens thursday night. he seemed to think that the seattle and olympia dates will go ahead no probs too. hope this helps some of you out. back to bbc news 24 - what a scary day. katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ILIVErug at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:31:29 2001 From: ILIVErug at xxx.com (ILIVErug at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:31:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: Im in New jersey... Message-ID: <81.fe50c39.28cfdcb1@aol.com> and all i have to say is damn. school was horrible. kids were being called down to the office. Basically every kid has a parent who works in NYC. and my dad was there... and i was worried. but hes ok.. thank god. hes not home though, but still. and im just so shaken. i cant believe this. i really just cant. my friends dad worked in that building... i hope hes ok. oh god... i cant believe this. it doesnt seem real. this is terrible. i dont know what to say. vicky +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougalshaw at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:50:32 2001 From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:50:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: another response from u.k. Message-ID: Condolences to all in NY. Hang in there. If I know the NY spirit in two years time you will have rebuilt those towers, but even higher. I've been up the World Trade Centre, about four years ago. All I can think of now is the top floor with the nets outside to stop you throwing things, the black linoleum floor, the plinths explaining the views of New York, the lounge music, the bored staff, the hot dog machine, some nice macaroni I had - all dissolved. I'm meant to be going to San Fran next week, but I don't know if I will. I might go out of solidarity, but my parents want me to stay. I know people who live on Bleeker in the West Village, will they still be there, will they be forced to move by America's second Dust Bowl? Hopefully, all sinisterines will be in NY next year to see B and S play at Radio City - that would be nice... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RAnder3567 at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 22:51:35 2001 From: RAnder3567 at xxx.com (RAnder3567 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:51:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: Blood Drive Message-ID: In a message dated 9/11/01 5:22:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-sinister-digest at missprint.org writes: << All I can urge is that everyone who is able donate blood do so today or tomorrow. That is the best gift you can give in all this turmoil. >> Here in Manhattan the need is especially urgent for Type O and O-. If you have these types, please donate ASAP. If not, please wait till tomorrow. The blood donation centers are overwhelmed at the moment. Robert +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Histrianic at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 23:18:50 2001 From: Histrianic at xxx.com (Histrianic at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:18:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: what a grande bang-off way to start school Message-ID: <8d.c546984.28cfe7ca@aol.com> Everything has been delayed, including my school starting. I am stuck on Long Island, because all the trains are down. I've been watching the tv all day, literally, from the moment i got until now. It's horrendous, isn't it? my prayers for well-being to everyone, and wishes of psychological comfort as well.. (although that's not too possible at the moment) love, hye min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mh843 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 11 23:38:46 2001 From: mh843 at xxx.edu (mh843 at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: The Year of Let it All Come Down Message-ID: <200109112238.f8BMck917743@student.bard.edu> I am living about 90 miles outside of New York City. I was in my college cafeteria this morning, getting my cottage cheese and apple sauce, when I heard the radio talking about the World Trade Center. I thought, "Maybe it is the anniversary of the World Trade Center bombing, an they are replaying the coverage." So I went to class, and people started to filter in with more and more news of what was happening. Many of my classmates are from Manhattan. People were running out of class crying everytime we heard about the next terrible thing that had happened. They tried to call their families to make sure they are okay, but all the phone circuits were busy. The moms and dads work in the world trade center, and they had no way of knowing that they were okay. My philosophy teacher began exploring the light and dark possiblities for heroic acts. He drew the line at rationalizing the terrorists sacrifice as heroic. And I was sitting in class, wondering if I could draw the same line. I felt numb, unhuman, sociopathic. I am so afraid that I am not so far away from those terrorists. I wonder if the emotion they were feeling when they flew the plane into the Trade Center is like the emotion I have experienced while in love. They must have been so in love with their cause. How many times have I been blinded by love? Since that philosophy class, I have spent all day realizing that as much as any person may be able to empathise with the perpetrators of such acts, there is no excuse for sympathy. I do not feel sympathy. We had a school wide meeting at 3:00 on the rugby field. It was a beautiful day, the butterflies were dancing on the grass. It was too much. My best friend, Bunny, watched the planes crash from her 12th floor brooklyn apartment, as she ate her cereal at 8:30 this morning. I talked to my Architecture professor, she listened and really helped. but the only thing that really worked was when she started talking about the Mies exhibit at MOMA. I am convinced that art is the solution to every emotional delima. It always makes me feel better. Plato says that art is the furthest seperation from reality. As a philosopher, he sees this as a bad thing, but I think its great. I wrote a letter last night naming this year, "The Year of Let it All Come Down," after the Spiritualized album coming out in a couple weeks. I really only meant it to honor Jason Spaceman for quiting drugs and turning his life around. But, now it has taken on a much heavier, unfortunately appropriate meaning. Now no matter if I like it or not, it has become the year of Let it All Come Down. I wish I could take it back. Martha +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:03:03 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Alice Virginia) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Am er i Ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010911230303.75425.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Let us be lovers, We'll marry our fortunes together. I've got some real estate Here in my bag. So we bought a pack of cigarettes, And Mrs. Wagner's pies, And walked off To look for America. Kathy, I said, As we boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburgh, Michigan seems like a dream to me now. It took me four days To hitchhike from Saginaw. I've come to look for America. Laughing on the bus, Playing games with the faces, She said the man in the gabardine suit Was a spy. I said, Be careful, His bow tie is really a camera. Toss me a cigarette, I think there's one in my raincoat. We smoked the last one an hour ago. So I looked at the scenery, She read her magazine; And the moon rose over an open field. Kathy, I'm lost, I said, Though I knew she was sleeping. I'm empty and aching and I don't know why. Counting the cars On the New Jersey Turnpike. They've all come To look for America. All come to look for America. All come to look for America. -paul simon's america pray for us alice virginia ===== seasons rise and set(bitter switching sweet) flashing brightly colored changes while out our searching eyes meet switching looks and lives and ages __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bookworm_trochet at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:27:56 2001 From: bookworm_trochet at xxx.com (bookworm_trochet at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:27:56 +0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20010911232756.6199.qmail@mail.com> When my alarm woke me up this morning with the words, "A plane has crashed into the pentagon...", I was stunned for a moment, but somehow I managed to convince myself that I had mis-heard, or that it wasn't as bad as it sounded. I poured myself some cereal and went into the living room, where both my parents were glued to the T.V. There was the World Trade Center, smoking and in ruins. School was awful today. Everyone was talking about what happened and there were horrible rumors flying around. One said that there was a plane crash around San Francisco, which really got me, since I have family in Vallejo. I thanked my lucky stars that I live in Sacramento and that my aunt, who works in New York, is okay. I'm really sorry for anyone who lost someone in this disaster, and for all the people killed or injured. I wish I knew what is going to happen tomorrow, or even a week from now. This all seems too terrible to be real. What has happened is why I dislike war (and terrorism). Innocent people get hurt. Always. -Holly -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETypeJoe at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:24:26 2001 From: ETypeJoe at xxx.com (ETypeJoe at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:24:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: and the world turned... Message-ID: fuck - i really don't know what to say. channel surfing but mostly settling on a mix of bbc news 24 & radio 5 and i really really can't comprehend what i have seen and heard. my heart and thoughts go out to those at the wtc and the pentagon. i would normally be pleased to see capitalism wounded, but christ, this isn't real - people are dead. please god, whoever or whatever you may be, let those who caused this be brought to some kind of justice, but please no more innocent deaths - the world is a sad enough place. i'm glad that u.s. sinisterines seem to be ok... i'm not really able to think or communicate very coherently - i'm sorry. i've gotta go - i need to cry... take care all love jonny xx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:30:24 2001 From: jeanette at xxx.com (jeanette eastwood) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:30:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: list abuse: HELP! Message-ID: <3b9e9e90.3e0f.0@ktc.com> I know this is list abuse of the worst kind, but I'm feeling a bit desperate. I'm in Portland. I don't have a clue how I'm going to get to Vancouver now, if the gig goes on, as I've been told the buses and Amtrak are going to be overflowing. Will some kind soul out there who's planning to head north *please* consider giving me a lift? I'd more than gladly pitch in for fuel and such. I've traveled from Texas for this ... I'd really hate to miss it! Mucho gracias and stuff. Jeanette http://www.ktc.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:36:21 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:36:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: I just want to be at the MCA Message-ID: <12.124634cd.28cff9f5@aol.com> Today was the wierdest, school started fine, got there before anything happened and didn't know anything until second period. It wasn't so scary then, and I was still in a decent mood. My field trip to the Museum of contemporary art was cancled b/c the trafic was bad and b/c the city was shutting down, here in chicago. I jsut wanted to see some cool shit and have lunch with my dad. The day wore on, i wasn't supposed to be there, so I signed out to get the books at home, and while waiting for the bus I started to dream about what things will look like when war has started, b/c we know its comming. Get back to school in time for a free and lunch and sit in the nurses with dozens of crying girls talking about this shit. I sit with a big boy whos father was there on buisness and is crying with fear for him. My art class has a girl whos uncle died, he was on the 91 floor. Everything is pandemonium, after school we are all to go straight home, not sure if there will be school tomorrow. But I know that my life will never feel the same. At the beginning of this I was just sad that I didn't get to go to the MCA and now I'm left with a huge pit and a whole lot of arguments. I love you all kate of chicago +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 00:30:24 2001 From: jeanette at xxx.com (jeanette eastwood) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:30:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: list abuse: HELP! Message-ID: <3b9e9e90.3e0f.0@ktc.com> I know this is list abuse of the worst kind, but I'm feeling a bit desperate. I'm in Portland. I don't have a clue how I'm going to get to Vancouver now, if the gig goes on, as I've been told the buses and Amtrak are going to be overflowing. Will some kind soul out there who's planning to head north *please* consider giving me a lift? I'd more than gladly pitch in for fuel and such. I've traveled from Texas for this ... I'd really hate to miss it! Mucho gracias and stuff. Jeanette http://www.ktc.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmk43 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 12 01:28:55 2001 From: jmk43 at xxx.edu (jmk43 at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: if cartoons were meant for adults they'd be on during primetime In-Reply-To: <12.124634cd.28cff9f5@aol.com> Message-ID: has anyone ever seen the movie "harold and maude"? its a very good movie. maude is an 80 year old woman and harold is a 20 something rich kid and they fall in love. its so beautiful i cried the first two times i saw it. well, maude was in the holocaust. one of the greatest tragedies of all time (much to the shagrin of that reporter who said the hindenberg was the greatest tragedy of all time) eventhough maude saw horrible horrible things, she was still enlightened as to how the universe worked and she was incapable of feeling hate toward anyone. bad stuff always happens and always will, there will always be positive things and negative things in the world. if this were not the case, nothing would exist. its simple physics. today, thousands of people tragically died. because of this, republicans and democrats, old and young, etc. etc. all people, share a genuine concern for human life. in this country where major crisis rarely happen, people tend to get mad at each other and pick fights about meaningless unimportant things. im a very cynical person, and i usually criticize government, police officers, fire fighters, and television journalists as having meaningless existances. today they had a real job to do. all of them. a very important job. and they all did it well. even george w. bush. he did a good job of keeping american's heads up. he assured us that we will catch these lousy terrorists and put a stop to this. thats all he can do. im confident that this situation will be resolved quickly, and perhaps after it, everyone will remember the brief time when they put all their differences aside, forgot about all their petty grudges, and did whatever they could to help people in need. and maybe someday people will figure out how to keep the world 99% good and 1% bad at all times. maybe this tragedy will help us reach that goal that ALL religions talk about, when evil is permanently held in check. today what is truly important was made clear to those who's perspectives were not properly adjusted. in this world where people die tragically everyday, it is comforting to know that the deaths of the people today served a very important worlwide purpose. this coming decade will be very important in history, almost as important as the decade that happened 2000 years ago. we saw the first generation of these worldwide changes happen in the 60's with people like martin luther king, bobby kennedy, all the hippies, and all the hippy artists. well this is phase 2 of that. and our generation will leave a positive mark on the world for years and years to come. in short, lets do what we can to help the people currently suffering, but remember that its all good. in fact, pretty soon its going to be great. -jer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From garymaher at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 01:52:16 2001 From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:52:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Be Strong Message-ID: <20010911.205241.-623623.0.garymaher@juno.com> You are all wonderful. Be strong and we will all pull through this together. People are still mostly good, and good will prevail. My house is about 20 miles W of lower Manhattan. If I go down the street and look due east, I can still see a thick column of smoke rising straight up, then turning all of its thickness to the south. If I didn't know the awful truth, I would think it was a house fire a few blocks away. It's hard to believe it is miles and miles from here. So many people in my town worked or have loved ones who worked in those buildings. Everybody is just numb and overwhelmed -- our minds cannot fully process the events of today. So far, everyone I know seems to be accounted for. But I know they (and I) are among the lucky. We seem to be safe here, but who knows what's coming next? Perspective: A lot of people in our world live their whole lives under these conditions. I feel for them today more than ever before. How can civilized people permit such suffering in our world? What could be so important that so many innocent people have to die? Be happy for what you have -- we all take too much for granted. And be strong -- we WILL all pull through this together. Love, Gary +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From deadmelody7 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 02:24:51 2001 From: deadmelody7 at xxx.com (Mark Donohue) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: from the states. Message-ID: <20010912012451.66165.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com> all, i'm a young american living in boston... what happened today endangered the lives of friends and family...thankfully it didn't take any. took the train home from school this morning...a great deal of my peers (by that i mean americans of my generation) apparently found what happened to be hilarious...a cause for celebration, even. everyone else seemed momentarily annoyed with the interruption of their daily routine. i can't say the occurrence or reaction startled me in the least...i offer best wishes to the families and friends of the deceased...and no one else. we'll all be back to our routine, tomorrow. tragic, isn't it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 02:51:55 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:51:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: from the states. References: <20010912012451.66165.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008d01c13b2d$815234e0$d2de56d1@pavilion> I don't know what kind of peers those are, but I need to say that not ONE of MY peers (by that i mean Americans of my generation) found anything "hilarious" or "a cause for celebration". Every single person around me (of all generations) have been shocked and saddened and angered by this. I just don't want everyone to think that the assholes Mark observed are in any way representative of American youth. In fact, they're not even representative of human beings. ~brier P.S. Pleased that the show will go on in Portland.... beautiful music is what our hearts need right now. > > took the train home from school this morning...a great > deal of my peers (by that i mean americans of my > generation) apparently found what happened to be > hilarious...a cause for celebration, even. everyone > else seemed momentarily annoyed with the interruption > of their daily routine. > > i can't say the occurrence or reaction startled me in > the least...i offer best wishes to the families and > friends of the deceased...and no one else. we'll all > be back to our routine, tomorrow. > > tragic, isn't it? > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimgirton at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 03:19:18 2001 From: kimgirton at xxx.com (Kimberly Girton) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:19:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A response from the U.S. east coast Message-ID: I haven't posted in ages, but in light of the terrorist attack, I came to the Sinister List looking for comfort, some sense of solidarity, a feeling that people around the world understand the pain we feel at this time, and send their prayers. I will thank God every day for all of you on the list, and the fact that you care about us, no matter where we are. You are the only reason the voice in my head that is saying, "The world has gone to Hell" isn't taking over my entire thought process. I'd like to thank all of you who have offered your condolences to those of us on the east coast of the U.S. As a born-and-bred eastcoaster, a former college student in NY and a resident of D.C., my entire life - family, friends - is located within Washington D.C. and NYC. I am positive I am not the only one who can claim this story. I am not the only person who spent agonizing hours trying to track down family and friends, only to be met with tied up phone lines and the rebroadcasting of TV footage I needn't see more than once. Even once was one too many. By the grace of God, all of my friends who worked within a block of the Pentagon are safe, and all I know in Manhattan who were forced to flee their buildings are safe and accounted for at this time. I am VERY lucky. My father is stuck in St. Louis and won't be able to leave until Thursday. A friend, and employee of the NSA, is stuck in Seattle on a business trip. As this sort of thing is in the NSA's jurisdiction to prevent, my heart goes out to her and her coworkers. They do the best they can every day defending our country. Ubfortunately, they are vulnerable to error. It is indescribable how much those of us who were affected by this tragedy appreciate the kind words from fellow Sinisterees. From the bottom of my heart - thank you. The other main reason I write is to address the fears stated on this list of WWIII, etc. To start: yes, I am angry because someone has attacked U.S. soil, and my understanding that the U.S. is not particularly popular around the world does nothing to temper that anger. The fact remains that this is my country, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been injured, killed, or otherwise affected by an act of blatant, calculated cowardice. We will fear for our lives for weeks. We will jump at the slightest touch and we will instinctively duck at the sound of aircraft. I am not an advocate of violence. I was angry and disappointed when President Bush took office. But never have I, nor any of my friends who have always held the same political sentiments I have, been more consoled by the fact that we have a world leader willing to do whatever he must to ensure our national safety. We find ourselves turning to our leaders for solace, whether we voted for them or not. A military jeep drove up my street earlier today on patrol. I have never in my life been so happy to see what I normally condemn as "a symbol of our ability to bully half of the world." No one wants WWIII, and that includes the United States. We will do what we have to do to avoid it, but I plead with you as a U.S. citizen -- please support us and our government as we, the American people, have sworn to do. Criticism of U.S. politics and foreign relations doesn't do a bit of good. One of my best friends is a staunch member of the Communist Party. He has always expressed his discontent with America and our governmental officials. Today, in an act signifying the insurmountable nationalism we are able to muster, he gathered information for enrollment in the U.S. Navy and will be signing up tomorrow. It is a sad state of affairs that we have been pulled into a fight out of which we have previously tried to stay. Though retaliation is inevitable, we are STILL a nation focused on laws and human decency. It is difficult to maintain our composure as we harbor anger and overwhelming fear, but I am confident that our leaders will not lash out and add senseless insult to an injury felt around the world. Had you asked me yesterday what I think of our highest political officials, I would have made a "Texan inbreed" joke, to quote another Sinisteree. But in the light of the events of the past 12 hours, I am ready and willing to support my government in whatever they choose to do. The rescue workers will be on call for days. We will be cleaning up the aftermath for weeks. We will still be in shock for months. I am personally terrified to move in a week to a suburb of D.C., as I have been planning to do for several months now, because our new apartment is closer to the federal and financial districts of D.C. I send my sincere condolences to those who live directly in NYC and in the inner workings of D.C. None of our lives will ever be the same. Please, when posting to the list, which reaches many natives of American soil, remember that in theory, it is easy to condemn acts of defense and/or retaliation as excessive, or damaging to the idea of world peace. But it is not so easy to entertain rhetoric when every five minutes, another military vehicle flies over your house, when you break down in tears because you have finally tracked down an old friend who works three blocks down from the NYC World Trade Center, when family and friends were scheduled to fly today and all you can do is thank God they weren't on one of those four planes that met such a horrible fate this morning. Though it is small comfort, I will continue to replay in my mind the scene of our members of the U.S. Congress gathered on the Capitol Building steps, singing "God Bless America." It is this unity of purpose and nationalism that gives me the only comfort I can find. We as a nation will do what is necessary to ensure the safety of our citizens, as dictated by our national leaders. It is unfair for anyone to ask us to do otherwise. Again, thank you for your support, and may all of you be kept safe. Sincerely, K. Girton Washington, D.C. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 03:24:54 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:24:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: tragic. Message-ID: <20010912022454.68298.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> "Good to hear that most of you are okay. But could Mr Eric The Half A Bee please show his face?" I'm fine... skaken and disturbed, but fine. the number of people that were in #sinister today was staggering... I hope all of you who live or have family/friends in new york have been able to talk to them. I can't say anything else that hasn't already been said... -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knitting_chick at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 03:26:19 2001 From: knitting_chick at xxx.com (Maren Rocket) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: *~*thanks*~* Message-ID: <20010912022619.73029.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. I don't write often. I actually just lurk around here, but I wanted to express how much it means to me that everyone is so concerned with the recent events, or "attack on the us" as my local news coverage is calling it. I'm from NY and have many friends who live in NYC, Pittsburgh and DC, and today has been the most frightening, eerie day of my life. I've spent the day trying to call around (many phone lines are tied up) and so far, everyone seems to be safely accounted for. I'm currently living in MA and I feel so distant from what has happened and yet, it has effected everything around me. My school was closed today, all the news and radio is about the attacks and while I should be using this free time to study and do work, it almost feels disrespectful to the victims and families, to consider anything other than this tragedy. Sure, classes will go on tomorrow and George W will continue to "hunt and punish" whoever is responsible for this, but that doesn't make me feel better or safer. This is just the beginning and I'm glad to know that at least some people out there are taking it as seriously as I am. I just wish that more people took these sorts of things seriously when they were happening in other countries, because then maybe, we wouldn't be in the position we are now...but maybe it's for the best that we are. ===== *~*how scandinavian of me*~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ferrisfubar at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 03:27:09 2001 From: ferrisfubar at xxx.com (Alice Virginia) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: from the states. In-Reply-To: <008d01c13b2d$815234e0$d2de56d1@pavilion> Message-ID: <20010912022709.49292.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> ditto brier my school's campus was one of the most beautifully observant place i have ever been a vigil lasted three hours, as white candels burned down slowly no one cared about the hot wax on their fingertips i think we wished it could have burned us more we were all touched and hurt and angry and quiet and quiet and quiet a local bloodrive drove hundreds of mary washington students to wait in 9 hour lines no one no one no one celebrated everyone everyone everyone mourns tonight a new yorker, alice virginia ===== seasons rise and set(bitter switching sweet) flashing brightly colored changes while out our searching eyes meet switching looks and lives and ages __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cheesebunhead at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 03:24:54 2001 From: cheesebunhead at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?eric=20the=20half=20a=20bee?=) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:24:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: tragic. Message-ID: <20010912022454.68298.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> "Good to hear that most of you are okay. But could Mr Eric The Half A Bee please show his face?" I'm fine... skaken and disturbed, but fine. the number of people that were in #sinister today was staggering... I hope all of you who live or have family/friends in new york have been able to talk to them. I can't say anything else that hasn't already been said... -eric ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 04:06:41 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:06:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i can't stop shaking Message-ID: <3518FEB6864415343A9E6F07BC894883@chinacat81.wildmail.com> my heart hurts today. it was one of the most beautiful days i've seen in months, and i turned my face to the clear blue sky and i cried because i couldn't understand. i went for a few beers to clear my head...i don't think it helped. everyone had blank expressions on their faces, and nick drake played as a soundtrack to the silent pictures on the television. there was a girl on the news...about my age. covered in blood. i shouldn't have been able to go out for a beer, anyway...but nobody cared. we walked down the street and two kids came running over with a camera, trying to make some sort of documentary and asking us what we thought. i didn't say a word...i just wanted to hide. we went to the record shop and people were standing around yelling at each other, and trying to listen to jazz to ease their minds and smoking cigarettes in the shop, which you're not supposed to do. nobody said anything, though. my dad looks so sad...i've never seen him this way. and my mom...she looks terrified. it's making my stomach turn. i had to stop for gas on the way home...and the roads were covered in cars stopped dead waiting in line at the stations. people lined the streets waving american flags and shouting. they weren't helping anything. a friend of mine just killed himself. i am still shaking. LOVE kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 04:20:24 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:20:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: dan Message-ID: <76F0E5BAB8DAB154187DB4B83197094A@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i'm sorry for the abrupt end to my post...and i'm sorry for posting twice in rapid succession. i just got a phone call while i was in the middle of writing....my friend dan has killed himself. he asked me to prom one year...i already had a date. he was the most talented writer i have ever met. he published a book during our junior year of high school. he was quiet and witty and one of the most interesting people i have ever had the privilege to meet. i saw him about two weeks ago. he gave me a huge hug. i wish i had hugged him longer. please please please take care of yourselves. kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 04:33:45 2001 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:33:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: As if I could think of a subject line at a time like this Message-ID: I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. Write, for instance: "The night is full of chaos, and the stars, blue, shiver in the distance....... It's obvious why I'm posting since there's no other reason - no other topic of which - someone could write at the moment. I was told that I shouldn't do this since; there have already been so many and I have nothing new to add. This contains no revelations or comforting solace to explain away anything. It won't even cause you to have shinier new looking floor tiles. Nor is there even a fresh lemon scent. My sincere apologies on all counts. Someone mentioned calling or being around those you loved because, among other things, this has reminded us all of what is really dear in life. I have no one to call or be around so instead I shall write to y'all. Thus, this is purely out of selfish desires - to somehow reason something where there is no sense to be found (a bit like an Aqua song). EE Cummings wrote a haunting verse which has been stalking me around for weeks now (Stalking? Yes. Perhaps the reason I find it haunting, eh?) "When any mortal even the most odd, can justify the ways of man to God, I find it odd that normal mortals can not justify the ways of God to man." Then today, something happened which is so completely unjustifiable on anyone's behalf that it's left me beyond bewildered. My little community here in North Carolina is completely horrified. I got a call earlier that everyone is fasting & praying because of what has happened so please don't think that, as someone else said, we just see this as an interruption in our daily routine. (I was at the bookshop when I heard. Well, when I read about it. I had to go on-line because no one could speak coherently enough about it to let me know what was happening. They just told me to pray. Can you tell I'm in the Bible Belt?) Jer mentioned my favorite movie, Harold & Maude (which I'm thinking of going and watching as soon as I send this). Oddly enough the Cat Stevens song, "Trouble" (which appears in H&M) has been what's been running through my mind all day: Trouble Oh trouble set me free I have seen your face And it's too much too much for me Trouble Oh trouble can't you see You're eating my heart away And there's nothing much left of me It seems as if boys named William are veritable fountains of wisdom. So, I hope Bill Harris doesn't mind if I share a story he told me which the Dali Lama tells about a Buddist monk who was imprisoned by the Chinese after they invaded Tibet. Apparently this monk was tortured mercilessly for years. I mean *tortured*, not just having Mentos commercials set on repeat for months on end. After he eventually escaped, he made it to see the Lama. The Lama asked him if he were afraid of dying during this time. The monk answered that the only thing he was afraid of was losing his compassion for his jailors/torturers because once that went, so did his soul. With that Bill reminded me of the importance to feel compassion not only for those who are dead and their friends and family, but also for those whose souls are so crippled they have no compassion left (the terrorists). When we venture into hate, aren't we already lost? Mm, he summed it up so much better than I. That really helped me (thank you Billzebub) which is why I shared it. Like most things in life you can't do anything to change the past; all you can do is control how you let it change you. So big huge hugs to all of the NY & DC sinister massive - Sexpot Sauer, Will Porter, Arik (who I was terrified for as I thought he was flying today), Phil, Ben, Laurel, Brian, Matthew. I'm glad to hear that y'all are all phsycially sound. I just heard Eric the half bee buzzing which is the biggest relieve since I was terribly worried over his silence. I can absolutely in no way imagine what it must be like to be in the middle of it all. It's horrifying enough to watch it on televison (which I'm morbidly glued to at times) but to actually be there admist it all -I can't comprehend. If anyone needs anything from me, I shall winningly whip on my awesome alliterative Superhero stunt caring cape and be there in a flying flash. Is there any word yet on those who were going to be traveling today (ie Jay)? I switch my vote to being terribly happy that Sinister decided to only do west coast gigs afterall. Laura _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monkey at xxx.org Wed Sep 12 04:29:17 2001 From: monkey at xxx.org (Jennifer Bencangey) Date: 12 Sep 2001 03:29:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Is it War? Message-ID: <20010912032917.23845.qmail@fancyfeast.chek.com> Hmm... I wouldn't be surprised if a war did erupt. People are already looking to blame anyone they can, many people are blaming the middle east. Meh. I suppose actually investigating who did it is a waste of good battling time. After all, we're America, and our penis size was challenged. We must kill. Oh, how we must kill. HAW! - Nej ________________________________________________________________ Get Free Anime Email, News, Links, Forums and Shopping at http://www.AnimeNation.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yaten at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 04:52:45 2001 From: yaten at xxx.com (Azzie) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:52:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: And yet again. Message-ID: <010801c13b3e$637afc20$6401a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> What a time for an introduction to the list. I've been lurking shamelessly for around five months (and must confess I adore all the mails), and haven't said a thing 'till now. I suppose I need an outlet at the moment. This has been a horrible day for everyone. And here I add to the wave of depressing mails, from yet another point of view; my own. I found out by way of an intercom message in school that the WTC had been hit by a plane. We're in Florida, and so there have been no vigils, silences, or speeches. French teacher doesn't give a goddamn and keeps us up with vocabulary. Kids are joking. All 17-18 years old and thought to be mature enough to handle situations in a respectful, compassionate manner. They're enjoying the idea of clouds of smoke from the destroyed towers as hilarious as a scene from a video game. I don't care if it's an example of American youth on a whole or not, but it certainly is in the pristine-upper-middle-class-suburbs of good old Central Florida. Because of this, I don't think it's anything large-scale at the time-- a small plane knocking off a chunk of rubble from one of the towers perhaps, and so I go to my next class. As said, I can't comprehend kids laughing and carrying on about a loss of life in the greater numbers. The TV is on in my fourth-period class-- I can see a large, dark plane flying straight and low into the line of symmetry with the towers, smashing into the side and disappearing, exploding. It's unreal; it's imaginary. I start to cry. My classmates look at me as if I'm crazy-- I don't give a damn. People will come in tomorrow, bragging in a very suburban-privileged-male fashion about their new car stereos, and their new bench-press weight, and school will go on as normal, but with a hokey one minute of silence, though I'm in the gym in the morning, and won't be able to see it. It's horror to think of young adult Americans not understanding loss and thinking themselves above human emotion, such as grief and sadness. God forbid you be laughed at for showing any. I huddle with two good friends and start wailing, I can't control it and don 't wish to, they join with me as the first tower comes down. It's the most bizarre, unbelievable, horrific thing I've witnessed in my life. I not caring most about family who live around the area, I don't care what special reasons I have for tears; I'm disillusioned. I'm thinking of the sheer terror of it all, the lives lost, and, frankly, I don't think I need to justify this. People are hurling themselves from the windows for a hopefully quicker death, holding each other's hands, breathing in and jumping, knowing they're about to die; people waiting for the collapse; the plane smashing through steel and concrete, all passengers now dead-- all from unidentified, inhuman men threatening with knives. People are waving shirts out of windows in hope of rescue which won't come. They'll most likely be gone minutes later. The largest symbol of commerce, and NYC, and human achievement have been demolished, imploding to an ever-billowing cloud of mess and smoke, like a terrible snowstorm, fogging glasses to as far as New Jersey. The Pentagon is not a pentagon anymore, a gaping hole where it's said-to-be impenetrable side once was. The fires are still roaring. Groups of Palestinians are whooping and hollering in the streets and passing out candy. For, God knows, the reward to those who wage the eternal war must be unimaginably grand. While in America, thousands of children have lost parents. Parents have lost children. People have lost friends, husbands, wives, siblings, neighbors. I grew up several blocks from the WTC, it is a mark of my childhood. I've been there every day for years, adored the sheer size of it and its perfection, never imagining this would happen. I can't cry anymore. It doesn't seem real. I'm saddened for humanity. My day was a blur; I'm shaken. I will never see the world through the same eyes. Life has changed as we know it. I hope all you and yours are safe. Please don't lose hope for the country! Take care, keep strong, and may God (or whomever does control fate) be with you all. -Love and etc, Azzie http://www.livejournal.com/users/azzie/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RAnder3567 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 05:53:13 2001 From: RAnder3567 at xxx.com (RAnder3567 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:53:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #588 Message-ID: In a message dated 9/11/01 10:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-sinister-digest at missprint.org writes: << I wonder if the emotion they were feeling when they flew the plane into the Trade Center is like the emotion I have experienced while in love. >> For your sake, I hope not. Robert in NYC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 05:17:36 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:17:36 Subject: Sinister: thinking of you Message-ID: i couldn't sleep last night..was worried about my friends in us luckily i heard some from them..but still I worrie ... I wish i could give all the people affecten by this a hug..love is all we need now not war.. hmm i'm messed and confused and afraid of airplanes.. my friend just went top nY too..but he's back hoem again...geez /rebecka in sweden _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phat_buu at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 07:01:23 2001 From: phat_buu at xxx.com (Todd Johnson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Where do we go from here? Message-ID: <20010912060123.76334.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Hey-o People of the Sinister Mailing List, And so a day occured that was tragic enough, it finally woke up the inhabitants of earth. September 11th, a day where hate consumed the world. It began with the senseless and hatefull acts of terrorism, and now Americans and others desire revenge for their loss, and their grief, and their pain. Although this reaction is innate, it won't end the hate and suffering. Not all feel this way, but i think that there are a great deal of citizen who think revenge is necessary. Ideas of revenge in our hearts will only cause and develope more hate. The only thing we need to encourage in the world is love!!! and peace!!! "Peace cannot be reached through force, it can only be attained through understanding" says Einstein. Where is John Lennon when you need his this inspiration the most, all this world needs is love. Hate started this painful day and hate will end us all. I only hope that the people with authority understand this and that stupid decisions aren't made. Everyone take care and keep breathing. -Love, Benjamin October Clyde ===== -Sir Benjamin October Cylde __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 07:35:31 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:35:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Red Cross donations Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010912073206.024e38d8@shell12.ba.best.com> For anyone interested in donating, the Red Cross is accepting money via Amazon's online 'honor code' system. Amazon has dropped any charges related to the use of their system... http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/ Apologies for the 2nd post to the list - I figure it merits it... senor droolcup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 08:04:04 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: portland show!!! Message-ID: <20010912070404.54097.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> I just got back from the show in portland and oh my goodness, it was amazing! It was my first live experience with them and i'm soooooo glad i have tix for 2 more shows. Stuart, of course, didn't ignore the fact that our country suffered a great tragedy today. He said, "it's such a fucking waste"...basically that all this is happening. So, in a great gesture, they played "Turn turn turn" first...it was absolutely perfect. Here's the setlist (which i don't know the names of a couple songs, sorry!): Turn Turn Turn Sleep the clock around "I'm feelin' fine" (?)--don't know name If you're feeling sinister (yay!) Wandering Days (Dedicated to Quasi :) Jonathan David--poor Stevie's voice was cracking on the high notes Don't leave the light on baby The Model Portland, OR (specially written for us by Stevie--it was awesome) what i think is Simple Things--i dont' have boy with the arab strap yet, so i am not sure The Boy with the arab strap We rule the skool Family Tree The state i am in Dog on Wheels Wrong Girl There's too much love Legal Man (damn this was awesome) I am everyday people--you know what i'm talking about, yes? 19 songs! people were screaming long after that though. I also discovered that I DO NOT like sitting for them. I had a great seat in the balcony where i could enjoy a beer and watch them, but it was loud and you couldn't dance becasue everyone was sitting. if i saw any sinister people, i didn't know it. I hope everyone had as good of a time as i did! See those of you who are goign in Seattle and Olympia!!! Carmel ===== "please turn out the light i get a sick confusion headache trying to figure out who's right" *****Heatmiser***** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Sep 12 07:41:18 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:41:18 +1200 Subject: Sinister: it's all been said before Message-ID: <003f01c13b5d$a52139e0$476137d2@computer> today started off well. the first piece of news I heard today was the announcement of the new B&S single ...... hooray, I though. but then, of course, the other news. I just don't know what to say or think, but I guess firstly I'd like to say how much I love the B&S Sinister community. everyone has been so good, so nice, so supportive, and it's great. take a look at Morrissey-solo.com for a bunch of "we hate Muslims"-type comments. which is a little premature, given no one knows who did it yet. might be American para-military a la Timothy McVeigh for all we know. anyway, this list has been so different, and your posts have warmed my heart. it's weird, living in a country at the bottom of the southern hemisphere of no strategic importance to anyone. it's just all feels so unreal. despite all this, I am happy because Rachel, my friend from DC, lives nowhere near the pentagon. shit, i really don't know what to say. to the American listees, I guess I just have to say hang in there. despite the occasional anti-US thing that rears it head here every now and then, we're with you. I've just been talking to my dad about all this. He's Danish, and was in the Danish army when JFK was killed in the 60's. all the leave was cancelled, and all of his unit had to sit tight in a bunker underneath the base with their weapons loaded, waiting for the nuclear bombs to fall from the sky as WWIII ignited. I guess that's how I feel today ....... (apart from the bit about the guns) OK, have to go now. I have nothing to add, really, just wanted to say that here in New Zealand, everyone is feeling for you. the Catholic churches in all the major cites are saying mass for you, for what it's worth. hoping tomorrow will be a brighter day ...... Lawrence (unusually lost for words) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Tue Sep 11 16:22:01 2001 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:22:01 +0300 Subject: Sinister: sorrow Message-ID: poor poor poor americans. it cant be!!! we are thinking of you and hoping..... i don't know what we are hoping. what can one hope in such a cathastrophic situation? that everything will be fine in the end? what end? anyway. we are thinking of you! aren't we sinister? with all our minds. hugs hugs hugs ulla it took me half an hour to type these words my hands are trembling like so. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 10:11:31 2001 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:11:31 +0300 Subject: Sinister: sorrow 2 Message-ID: i just noticed that the mail i sent yesterday at 2pm has arrived few minutes ago. it doesn't change much. actually it doesn't change anything at all. i'm still walking around, tears in my eyes. disbelieving, terror in my heart. am i being very selfish if i say i'm glad that everyone i know in america, including all sinsiter type people are alright? i hope not. still love you. like so. yours, ulla. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 12:43:15 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:43:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sympathies Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F39@PIKACHU> I'm not sure if I'll end up pressing 'send' or not, but here goes... I just wanted to add another voice of sympathy for those who've lost loved ones in the States yesterday. It's been such a frightening day - not one person is talking about anything else, and we're thousands of miles away on a different continent. In Britain we've been living with this sort of thing for thirty years (although not on the same scale), so we've got a good idea of how it feels. I've heard it described as the most significant day since Princess Diana died, which I think is fucking stupid, that was just four deaths. It's more worrying that noone has the faintest idea who was behind it all (apart from the usual racist knee-jerk accusations); 80% of the world's population seems to detest America, and it's scary to think that this could happen again. But please, let's not have any talk at all of revenge, that's the kind of attitude which caused all this in the first place. There must be people reading this who have lost people they know. I'm sure the last thing on your mind right now is writing to a music list, but just know that we're thinking of you. And in case anybody out there still thinks this doesn't affect them, well, I find it almost inconceivable that in a tragedy on this scale noone from Sinister would have been killed. Kirsten, our thoughts are with you. Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 14:09:11 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Stunned. Message-ID: <20010912130911.D2B18274E@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Wed Sep 12 15:32:40 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:32:40 +0200 Subject: Sinister: do something pretty while you can... Message-ID: <000f01c13b97$c7aba560$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> just out of the nursery. since none of you know me yet, my name is annika, soon 21 years old and, like a handful of sinisterees, i'm from sweden. i won't say much about me, that's not why i'm writing right now. i was going to wait another while before posting anything. but i feel i can't. i didn't find out before 7pm yesterday (1pm nyc time). i didn't believe it then. i don't think i have yet completely understood the full of it. i cried last night, watching the news. i fell asleep listening to "we rule the school". sometimes we think we do. sometimes we feel nothing can damage us, there's nothing we can't say, nothing we can't prevent. we rule the school. do we? i can hardly read my sinister mails today. my sight keeps getting blurred from tears. and i feel horrified. i want to do something, but i can't think of anything to do. except writing. it's a really nice day. sunshine, blue sky and a few clouds. who could ever know, who would've guessed? i'm scared. i should go out and do something pretty... i pray for you, i think of you, i suffer with you. but i also can't help feeling relieved it wasn't me and i'm sorry. for the short time i've been a sinisteree this list has been a source of joy and comfort for me. you're lovely people, remember that, believe that. let's pray there will be no more wars. let's hope somehow this will be solved without anyone innocent being punished. almighty god in heaven, your people are in pain. i do not know why this had to happen, i am too simple. but i pray that you are with the american nation this very minute. comfort them, help them help eachother, walk with them and don't let them fall any further. i know your angels are crying. when i close my eyes i can almost hear them. i cry with them. lord, take your people in your arms and protect them against the evil that yesterday chocked the entire world. let them feel you're with them, let them feel you love them. god bless america. amen love /an +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 15:49:11 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:49:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "through" Message-ID: <3B9F75E7.C606F036@netscapeonline.co.uk> Peace Finding a way through. Gordon *hugs* to you all. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shiplore at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 16:59:24 2001 From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:59:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A response from the U.S. east coast Message-ID: I have to say what I think about this WWIII type stuff. It won't be a war, anymore than the "war on drugs" is a war. A was involves two or more nation-states. What we have here isn't a nationstate attacking the US, you have deranged lunatics striking at the foundation of civilization. Hearing Tony Blair speak makes me pine for such an eloquent leader. THe same for former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, more elegant in his second language then bush is in his first. The Gulf-war should have showed us that there won't be a "war" again in the sense of world war 1 or WWII. It's not the same world there's too much technology and the difference in the parties involved make it a foregone conclusion. There's not doubt about the outcome should the US-led West initiate hostilities against on of these "harbors of terrorism" Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, or Afghanistan. I feel very bad for these countries if they're somehow tied to the terrorists. Because losts of innocent civilians will be killed It's a horrible dilemma isn't it? I mean obviously violence begets violence but if these people are willing to instigate violence and there's no response why would they stop? so what do you listen to? Your head that says you must use restraint and only try to capture the people that did this (most of whom are dead...) or your heart that cries for some sense of base atavistic revenge? It's horrible and there's no right answer... jb >From: "Kimberly Girton" >Reply-To: "Kimberly Girton" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: A response from the U.S. east coast >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:19:18 -0400 > >I haven't posted in ages, but in light of the terrorist attack, I came to >the Sinister List looking for comfort, some sense of solidarity, a feeling >that people around the world understand the pain we feel at this time, and >send their prayers. > >I will thank God every day for all of you on the list, and the fact that >you >care about us, no matter where we are. You are the only reason the voice >in >my head that is saying, "The world has gone to Hell" isn't taking over my >entire thought process. > >I'd like to thank all of you who have offered your condolences to those of >us on the east coast of the U.S. As a born-and-bred eastcoaster, a former >college student in NY and a resident of D.C., my entire life - family, >friends - is located within Washington D.C. and NYC. I am positive I am >not >the only one who can claim this story. I am not the only person who spent >agonizing hours trying to track down family and friends, only to be met >with >tied up phone lines and the rebroadcasting of TV footage I needn't see more >than once. Even once was one too many. By the grace of God, all of my >friends who worked within a block of the Pentagon are safe, and all I know >in Manhattan who were forced to flee their buildings are safe and accounted >for at this time. I am VERY lucky. My father is stuck in St. Louis and >won't be able to leave until Thursday. A friend, and employee of the NSA, >is stuck in Seattle on a business trip. As this sort of thing is in the >NSA's jurisdiction to prevent, my heart goes out to her and her coworkers. >They do the best they can every day defending our country. Ubfortunately, >they are vulnerable to error. > >It is indescribable how much those of us who were affected by this tragedy >appreciate the kind words from fellow Sinisterees. From the bottom of my >heart - thank you. > >The other main reason I write is to address the fears stated on this list >of >WWIII, etc. To start: yes, I am angry because someone has attacked U.S. >soil, and my understanding that the U.S. is not particularly popular around >the world does nothing to temper that anger. The fact remains that this is >my country, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been injured, >killed, or otherwise affected by an act of blatant, calculated cowardice. >We will fear for our lives for weeks. We will jump at the slightest touch >and we will instinctively duck at the sound of aircraft. > >I am not an advocate of violence. I was angry and disappointed when >President Bush took office. But never have I, nor any of my friends who >have always held the same political sentiments I have, been more consoled >by >the fact that we have a world leader willing to do whatever he must to >ensure our national safety. We find ourselves turning to our leaders for >solace, whether we voted for them or not. A military jeep drove up my >street earlier today on patrol. I have never in my life been so happy to >see what I normally condemn as "a symbol of our ability to bully half of >the >world." > >No one wants WWIII, and that includes the United States. We will do what >we >have to do to avoid it, but I plead with you as a U.S. citizen -- please >support us and our government as we, the American people, have sworn to do. >Criticism of U.S. politics and foreign relations doesn't do a bit of good. >One of my best friends is a staunch member of the Communist Party. He has >always expressed his discontent with America and our governmental >officials. > Today, in an act signifying the insurmountable nationalism we are able to >muster, he gathered information for enrollment in the U.S. Navy and will be >signing up tomorrow. > >It is a sad state of affairs that we have been pulled into a fight out of >which we have previously tried to stay. Though retaliation is inevitable, >we are STILL a nation focused on laws and human decency. It is difficult >to >maintain our composure as we harbor anger and overwhelming fear, but I am >confident that our leaders will not lash out and add senseless insult to an >injury felt around the world. Had you asked me yesterday what I think of >our highest political officials, I would have made a "Texan inbreed" joke, >to quote another Sinisteree. But in the light of the events of the past 12 >hours, I am ready and willing to support my government in whatever they >choose to do. > >The rescue workers will be on call for days. We will be cleaning up the >aftermath for weeks. We will still be in shock for months. I am >personally >terrified to move in a week to a suburb of D.C., as I have been planning to >do for several months now, because our new apartment is closer to the >federal and financial districts of D.C. I send my sincere condolences to >those who live directly in NYC and in the inner workings of D.C. None of >our lives will ever be the same. > >Please, when posting to the list, which reaches many natives of American >soil, remember that in theory, it is easy to condemn acts of defense and/or >retaliation as excessive, or damaging to the idea of world peace. But it >is >not so easy to entertain rhetoric when every five minutes, another military >vehicle flies over your house, when you break down in tears because you >have >finally tracked down an old friend who works three blocks down from the NYC >World Trade Center, when family and friends were scheduled to fly today and >all you can do is thank God they weren't on one of those four planes that >met such a horrible fate this morning. > >Though it is small comfort, I will continue to replay in my mind the scene >of our members of the U.S. Congress gathered on the Capitol Building steps, >singing "God Bless America." It is this unity of purpose and nationalism >that gives me the only comfort I can find. We as a nation will do what is >necessary to ensure the safety of our citizens, as dictated by our national >leaders. It is unfair for anyone to ask us to do otherwise. > >Again, thank you for your support, and may all of you be kept safe. > >Sincerely, >K. Girton >Washington, D.C. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ >+-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ >+-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ >+-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 18:02:06 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:02:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Helplessness of another kind Message-ID: <002701c13bad$1a608a40$a88587d9@fsnet.co.uk> I tried donating to the disaster fund on amazon and it told me that the postcode for my address is incorrect. The correct postcode for my correct address. Does anyone know of another way to donate? A website or a number? Please e-mail me off list. As for the event, I didn't post before (though I wanted to) because I don't have anything to say. I don't live in America and I don't have relatives in NY, so anything I said would probably seem hollow and stupid. The only thing I want to stress is THIS IS NOT A WAR. People keep saying it's the next pearl harbour, and the perpetrators must be punished and so on and so forth. THIS IS NOT PEARL HARBOUR, there is no enemy yet. Even if it was, is would be Islamic FUNDEMENTALISTS, and not the nation of Islam as people (not on Sinister I hasten to add) are suggesting. Beyond the event, it is the reaction that sickens me. People are scapegoating without knowing the facts. One Sininistrine said her friend was signing up to the Navy. I would urge her to ask him to reconsider. If, as she says, he has deep reservations about US politics then this is more than a mistake, it is a tragedy. As a kneejerk reaction, this could get him into a postion he really shouldn't be in. What if America decides to go to war against a country who turns out to have nothing to do with this? How will your friend feel then? To avenge a pointless killing should there be a pointless killing? I think at this point this quote seems more than appropriate (much as in other times I would balk at the preteniousness of it, not to mention it's cliched nature)... "He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he himself become a monster. If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into you. " My deepest sympathies to everyone in America... for the very very little that's worth. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 18:37:49 2001 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:37:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: thank you to b&s Message-ID: Hello everybody, Sorry to add to all the posts. I know it's busy. I actually read every single one of the four sinister digests I got this morning from top to bottom though. I don't have anything to say other than I'm in complete shock. Is this reality? I decided not to go to work yesterday--I went out to my mom and dad's house to get my car fixed, and I watched the news all afternoon on their tv. Saw the plane crash into tower 2 a thousand times from a thousand different angles on five different tv networks. Saw footage of people jumping to their deaths, I guess to avoid being burned to death in the building. All those people. It's on a scale way beyond anyone's imagination. Got scared because I'm supposed to fly through Newark airport in less than two weeks on my way to study this fall in Scotland. Now I'm glad I'm going to Scotland, though. The American politicians on the tv and radio reacted in the most disgusting way. Using people's fear and religious feelings to manipulate them. People say that if you see certain things, you are changed, as in, your brain is physically changed. I guess they've done scientific studies on it. I'm sorry, I'm rambling on and the real reason I wrote is because I wanted to say thank you to Stuart and Stevie and Isobel and Bobby and Sarah and Mick and Richard and all the rest of the musicians who played with Belle and Sebastian last night in Portland. Thanks for saying something, Stuart, at the beginning of the show. Thanks for that first song. Thanks for the love song to Portland. But mostly thanks for just being there, playing your music, and making us feel like the world isn't a horrible place for a little while. Thanks. andrea _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 19:09:29 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:09:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: We woke up one morning, and fell a little further down... Message-ID: <96.1a055095.28d0fed9@aol.com> I woke up this morning, and wondered if yesterday had all been some sickening nightmare, that I had fallen asleep with the TV showing some Hollywood disaster and the details had just seeped into my subconcious. Yet when I went downstairs for a cup of coffee, I saw the pictures all over again. Is it just me or does it still seem so eerily unreal? It is like the whole world has been watching a State sponsored Hollywood blockbuster. But it's not. And everytime I see and hear more, I can't stop shaking. Yesterday I watched the pictures on the news over and over...and I still can't believe such malice exists in the world. I first found out at work, and the whole factory and office stopped and crowded around a TV to watch fire and devastation. Sickened, I went outside for a cigarette. Halfway through one of my colleagues told me the second tower had collapsed and before they were showing pictures of people jumping to their death. All day I physically shook and felt sick. That was only from looking at the pictures. God only knows the emotions that the relatives of the dead are feeling at the moment. I come from an American family, although I live in Manchester and have lived in England for most of my life. I myself have dual nationality. My mother is American. I have a large family who are spread out across America. We've been trying to phone America now for over 24 hours. As far as I know, none of them are in New York, but it's mainly for our peace of mind. This is the first time that I have felt myself to be truly American....I apologise if that sounds strange, but I see holes ripped in masonry and office paper falling like black confetti for the dead and just want to rush to America and protect those I love. I want to fall at the feet of the Government of both countries and beg them not to be too hasty, because I am so scared for those that I love. I am sickened. I am angry. I am absolutely petrified. But I do not want War. Saying this, I do believe in retaliation against those who committed this act. But violence breeds violence. And fingers being pointed before the culprits come forward is never the way to solve these problems. I would like to think that the people who committed and induced this act will recieve punishment of the eternal kind. I am not religious. But this morning I lit candles in my local Cathedral for the dead on my way to work. My thoughts are with those on this list who have lost people. I hope you find solace in whatever way you can. Music always helps for me. Someone talked about listening to Godspeedyoublackemperor! throughout this. I know I have been. "The dead flag blues" fits the apocalyptic scenes so well. I apologise if this is clumsy. I am still in shock and more numb than I ever thought possible. I just hope that no one is going through this alone. Our world has changed and grown scarier and colder. Lets just hope that we don't become too hardened by it all. Cay xXx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From annika.lindberg at xxx.se Wed Sep 12 19:27:25 2001 From: annika.lindberg at xxx.se (AN) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:27:25 +0200 Subject: Sinister: sophie's new york story Message-ID: <000d01c13bb8$94ad6f60$ac6ec6c3@Suravision> this is a mail from a former sinisteree, sophie from new york, to you through me. please take time and read how the wtc-tragedy affected her. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "hi. my name is sophie and i live in new york. i was a memeber of sinister for a long time, but i am not any more. i really want to write something to you guys, but if i sign up now, i wont be able to write it for a long time. i was wondering if you could send this to sinister for me. i would really appreciate it. if you could just change the title, cut this part out and replace it with a note saying this is from me. Thank you so much. "My name is sophie and i go to school in tribeca, new york. My school building is two blocks (short blocks) away from the world trade center. Yesterday I watched it be hit and collapse from my 7th story Biology room. It was the scariest thing i have ever seen in my life. At first it was real cute. you know, "some drunk pilot flew into the world trade center, haha, theres a gaping steaming whole in it. cant wait til lunch when i can go out and really see it." Then when another one hit it was confusing. many of my friends had watched from outside and were shaken. my friend patrick said he had seen the plane of civilians go into it and at least ten people go flying out of the buildiing and fall to the ground, two blocks south down the street. i was in the basement when the first one fell. the world started shaking and the lights went dead. people were screaming and crying and the men with suits and badges rushed in screaming "Secret service! get to the other side of the building!" Everyone thought there was a third plane and they had fucked up and hit us instead. like how they landed early when they hit the pentagon. they slid into the side of it. if they had landed early in NY, it would have been on us. After the first one fell, they still werent letting us out of the building. They were calling names on the PA and i think it was for people whose parents were here to pick them up. if my name would have been called, i dont think i would have left. i dont think i could have. it was to unknown. if they would hit again, where they would hit. if there was anyways to get home. if the subway tunnels would be bombed. They sent me up to my biology class. it was on the 7th floor, south side, and the entire south wall was a glass window. Our bio teacher never even showed up. i figure she booked when the first plane hit. So we sat in the room, watching a giant cloud of smoke try to envelop the school, and the top of the remaining world trade center, and people leaning out, looking around, and flinging themselves throught the window. I watched at least 8 people commit suicide from the top of the world trade center before it collapsed. I walked home, back to brooklyn that day, and there were soldiers walking throught the streets with big guns, there were helicopters and airplains going through the air. While walking, someone would look at the sky, and everyone on the crowded new york street would stop walking and turn around to see whatever they were pointing at up there. I've been imagining airplane noises all night, and listening to the people crying in my head. There were too many people who were sobbing crying last night, and i could hear every one of them in my head. I dont want to go to war. i dont want to ever have to see anything like that again in my life. It was too close, and too real, and NYC it too vulnerable and delicate. I dont think i would be able to handle anything like that again. I know most of you are European, and i thought maybe you would like to know what happened on less of a newscast level, so here, thats what happened. I hope this thing is over soon, and i hope as few people as possible get involved. peace, and keep safe." -sophie tintori (spiticuss at aol.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 19:35:44 2001 From: wilska at xxx.com (Emily Wilska) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:35:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: pause, and feel, and hark Message-ID: <37C3476607141849A65191FB44C1D573037DDB73@svc-msg-03.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> Sinister, I'm too numb and stupid with grief to be able to put my thoughts into intelligible words, but I want to share with you all what is, for me, a means of getting through all this. So much has changed, but all is never lost. Keep living, Emily Human beings suffer, They torture one another, They get hurt and get hard. No poem or play or song Can fully right a wrong Inflicted and endured. The innocent in gaols Beat on their bars together. A hunger-striker's father Stands in the graveyard dumb. The police widow in veils Faints at the funeral home. History says, Don't hope On this side of the grave. But then, once in a lifetime The longed-for tidal wave Of justice can rise up, And hope and history rhyme. So hope for a great sea-change On the far side of revenge. Believe that a further shore Is reachable from here. Believe in miracles And cures and healing wails. Call miracle self-healing: The utter, self-revealing Double-take of feeling. If there's fire on the mountain Or lightning and storm And a god speaks from the sky That means someone is hearing The outcry and the birth-cry Of new life at its term. It means once in a lifetime That justice can rise up And hope and history rhyme. --Seamus Heaney, from The Cure at Troy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 19:38:26 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:38:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My last post was a mess Message-ID: <002401c13bba$1de4bc10$9865fea9@fallahome> Hello again everyone. Did I call this an 'accident' yesterday? This was no accident, it was a bloody terrorist attack. Also, I was sorry about the BUILDING. Why didn't I mention the most important thing of all - the people who had lost their lives, and their families? I didn't even mention the economic disaster. Anyway, I really couldn't think of what to say back then - I have a better idea now. I've been watching the news regularly since yesterday and the severity of it all is rapidly dawning on me. For one thing, two of my friends are over there. I wonder how Dave (on holiday there) is coping with all of this. I have heard that he's OK, however. And one of my female friends, Louise, was due to return home from the States on the 15th - when will she come back now? One of my Y! Messenger American friends wrote to me yesterday longing for revenge. Revenge in what way? Hopefully not war. I couldn't think of what to say to her - she was hurting much more than I was. Seeing the numerous reports on the news has made me wonder even more about how strange this world is. Why should everyone suffer for what just a relatively small number of terrorists have done? I considered it sick when I heard about Iraq celebrating, but then they are overjoyed that the States has been attacked. Not that I still don't consider it sick. I'll tell you what, this disaster may be even more serious than I think. A friend of mine at the Operatic Society likened it to the Wall Street crash of 1929. Well, I think this is similar only in one way. After all, there were no Middle Eastern terrorists involved. I think maybe I was sorry about the building cos I always wanted to visit it when I was younger, and now I'll never get the chance. Still, I can't believe my naivety yesterday. The people who lost their lives, their families, and the people affected severely by the disaster are far more important. Even more important than how serious an economic disaster this is. So important that all tonight's football matches, plus various other shows around the world (notably music shows, as, have been cancelled. But it's a sign of respect. I'm convinced, like everyone else is, that we will get through this. But I'm just hoping that WW III isn't the answer. Before I go, notes to a few people: Kirsten - I'm really sorry. Stuart Gardiner - You are right. Diana's death seems a really small event compared to this. Mind you, if this was made into a film (which I hope it won't be), people will make a profit out of it just like Di's death. Jen - I read your post numerous times, it was wonderfully written. I especially agreed with you yesterday when you said - 'George Bush was on the telly being illiterate and a complete retard. I'm sure everyone feels really safe knowing that the worlds most powerful country in a time of crisis lies in the hands of a Texan inbred.' Does anyone else think so? Jenni (Cay) - I'm about to read your post. Everyone else on the list - My thoughts are with all of you. Take care, Psi. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 20:24:55 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:24:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a day for a sulk Message-ID: <007301c13bc0$9b8922e0$7e37bcac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Yesterday lunchtime, because I didn't really have any friends at work, I took lunchtime outside on my own, because there is a lake near by with a bench I can sit at. I sat there for 45 minutes, just looking at the lake. If people saw me there they probably would have thought that I was very strange, just sitting there on my own, but I liked it, I liked the peace, just birds, flying over a tranquil lake, I looked on, and celebrated the silence. Who would have known that within an hour, on the other side of the atlantic ocean all hell broke loose. I finished work, and my mum asked me if I watched the news, I was thinking "oh here we go more scaremongery foot scare stories", she told me the world trade centre has been blown up by hijacked planes. It took me a few seconds.. "World Trade Centre??" and "fucking hell" came into my head. And I went back home, it was true, cos it was on TV, in full colour, a plane, flying full speed into a building, have I seen anything like this happen before? Yes, I have, many times in films, it looked just like that, except in films it looked more realistic. And then I saw how big the WTC was, compared to a bliming jumbo jet, and saw the whole thing went down, it was demoralising. My heart felt so heavy, it still is, I had trouble breathing, and I don't even live in America. It's the whole simplicity of it that really distraught me, no tanks, no fighter planes, no napalm, no atomic bombs, just 4 hijacked planes, blew a hole on the biggest symbol of civilised world - the civilians. I shivered. I am very sorry to read about Kirsten and Sophie's posts. At this time I don't want to do anything at all, apart from with my friends and family, to feel safe with company, so, this weekend, it's picnic time... everyone who live close to at least another sinister should go and meet up, and try and forget about everything, for a day or two, and listen to nice day for a sulk to try and lift ourselves again. When no one talked about Ken Chu for a whole day, you know something is wrong. Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 20:51:44 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The Sorrow Of The World Message-ID: <20010912195144.46880.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> So Gibraltar has tumbled. I can hear sirens. I was indirectly alerted to the catastrophe by one of my favourite pop singers, and watched it on a big TV with my producer. Our own handiwork played over the first 2 minutes of footage of blue sky, orange flame and black smoke. From the appearance of a bizarre accident to the unmistakable malice of a deliberate strike. The death toll is monstrous. And so many of those on the ground were firefighters and medical staff - the best in New York, of all places - already seeking to do their jobs when the buildings came down, after which they were needed even more, yet gone. That's as sad as anything about this disaster. I see that Alasdair Cook has posted - *again*. His words will demand my attention, soon. Jefferson, I think we're lost, indeed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 22:06:20 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:06:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I'm with you Message-ID: "I'm with you in Rockland where you bang on the catatonic piano the soul is innocent and immortal it should never die ungodly in an armed madhouse." Allen Ginsberg You're not alone... dead or alive...you're not alone...love to all... Santi Trullenque (Barcelona) Is this reality? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 22:13:29 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:13:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sadness Message-ID: <3B9FCFF9.556213EF@netopia.com> I could not believe what I was hearing on Tuesday morning. I was ready > to spit out my glowing and exciting review of Saturday's SF show, when I > heard and seen images from our tragedy here in the states. How did this > happen? I wanted to say I am glad I had the experience to escape from > this awful world and bask in the words and sounds of Belle and > Sebastian's music before the reality of our lives actually hit me > yesterday. So sad....here is an article I got from a Canadian paper that > says a lot. > > > America: The Good Neighbor. > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a > remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto > by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is > the full text of his. > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the > most generous and possibly the least > appreciated people on all the earth. > > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted > out of the debris of war by the Americans who > poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None > of these countries is today paying even the > interest on its remaining debts to the United States. > > When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans > who propped it up, and their reward was > to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw > it. > > > > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that > hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American > communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. > > > > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into > discouraged countries. Now newspapers > in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering > Americans. > > > > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the > erosion of the United States dollar build its own > airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the > Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, > or the Douglas DC10? > > > > If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines > except Russia fly American Planes? You talk > about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German > technocracy, and you get automobiles. > You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not > once, but several times - and safely > home again. > > > > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store > window for everybody to look at. Even > their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our > streets, and most of them, unless they are > breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at > home to spend here. > > > > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down > through age, it was the Americans who > rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central > went broke, nobody > > Loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. > > > > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other > people in trouble. Can you name me > even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I > don't think there was outside help even > during the San Francisco earthquake. > > > > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned > tired of hearing them get kicked around. > They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, > they are entitled to thumb their nose at > the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada > is not one of those." > > > > Stand proud, America! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Aspensarah at xxx.com Wed Sep 12 22:58:14 2001 From: Aspensarah at xxx.com (Aspensarah at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:58:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #590 Message-ID: <106.58a6b51.28d13477@aol.com> Hi this is my first post. i`m in shock, as everyone else is. i`m from portland but go to school in montreal, and prior to yesterday the most upsetting thing in my life was missing the belle and sebastian show last night because i`m at school on the other coast. now the smaller things seem futile to worry about, don`t they. i`m glad other portlanders were consoled by the band`s words. the only comfort for me has the support of the other students, american or otherwise, and your support dear sinisterees. i have read all the messages of earlier today, and only ask everyone to consider this: has there ever been a form of military retaliation that does not result in the loss of innocent lives? does any nation have the right to kill complete innocents, even after an attack on their own innocents? to put it another way, if some maniac from the states decided to take the lives of innocents in say, mexico, does the mexican government now have the right to bomb a populated area in the us because the perpetrator could be killed by the bombs? the u.s. has sponsored many a similar act (read: iraq) to no avail., only to the deaths of people who do not neccessarily support the dictatorships they do not have the choice but to live under. alright, i`m rambling and i don`t mean any disrespect toward anyone who is suffering. but i do believe in peace first and foremost, and that as long as revenge and retaliation exist as viable courses of action we will be no closer to the healthy world we all deserve the chance to live in. i am greatful to each and every one of you, thoughtful and eloquent and heartful sinisteeries, and i`m so glad we can take comfort in each other, even though most of us have never met. pax, sarah +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Wed Sep 12 23:07:58 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:07:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: vancouver gig Message-ID: <009101c13bd7$f1eaf840$664cfea9@stephen> hi all, the band are on their way to the canadian border now, so unless you hear otherwise, you can pretty much consider the vancouver gig tomorrow - thursday night - is on. will mail again if there is any more definite news to the contrary. hope everyone who made it to the portland gig last night found some solace in the music. cheers, katrina. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 00:13:00 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:13:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: B&S @ Seattle Message-ID: hello sinister, I hope you all are well though I have already heard that some of you are not so well. Deepest sympathies to all. Though any thing other than the events of the last 36 hours seems rather picayune by comparison, I received the message below from a non-listee who requested that I forward it. It concerns a few available tickets to the Seattle show. If interested, please email Julia, not me, offlist. On a related note: I've already notified those I knew were going to be at the Seattle gig but in case you might have slipped through the cracks and not gotten the notice, there will be a meet up on Friday before the show at the Cha Cha on Pine St. Below is a link explaining everything you could want to know about the location. They open at 4 and I'll be getting there, as I imagine most of us will, around 5. http://seattle.citysearch.com/profile/11349326/ -Rinaldo ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Julia M. DeBaecke" To: Subject: B&S @ Seattle Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:29:27 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Hello, I saw your post on the sinister mailing list and thought you might know someone who would want some tickets for the seattle show. I have four tickets, and so far there's only me and possibly one other person going. So i have two tix, maybe even three, to get rid of. i'd rather give them away to someone who reallly wants to go, rather than not using them. of course, if someone wants to make a donation, i'd accept that too. i'll sell them for less than what i paid. thanks for any help you might be able to offer. feel free to post this message on sinister, if you wish. julia _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 01:23:40 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:23:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: starting a fundraiser Message-ID: <16d.c8bb6b.28d1568c@aol.com> I know that I have posted earlier on this subject, but I wanted to say that me and a friend got three organizations at my highschool to begin fundraisers today, a dance on frieday will have proceeds going to the red cross and we are crying envelopes for the next two weeks to raise 3500 (hopefully). I'm proud of being proactive, and I urge you all to find your own way to do the same much love kate +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimgirton at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 03:49:05 2001 From: kimgirton at xxx.com (Kimberly Girton) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:49:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A vain attempt, but I have to try. Message-ID: To the host: If there is too much about the latest events being posted, I understand your right to not pass on some posts. I know my second post may sound like I am beating a dead horse, but after sharing the comments on the Sinister list with others, I don't feel that people of similar mind to myself have been fairly represented. So I have written one more, and after I submit this for possible post, I will remain quiet on the public board. Thank you sincerely for your time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I know I posted yesterday, and I did not intend to post again. I understood when I wrote my post that it would perhaps disturb some of the Sinister readers. While I tried to maintain a semblance of composure, I'm sure the rest of the American citizens on this list understand that it's a difficult thing to do in the wake of such an event. First of all, I again want to reiterate how pointless it is to criticize American leaders and policy. Just as you have asked America not to jump to conclusions and pointing fingers middle-eastern countries, I ask that you not jump to conclusions and assume that an angry and excessive retaliation is the automatic course of action the U.S. will take. To quote two Sinisterees: "George Bush was on the telly being illiterate and a complete retard. I'm sure everyone feels really safe knowing that the worlds most powerful country in a time of crisis lies in the hands of a Texan inbred." There are several reasons this comment moves me to speak: If you read my post yesterday, you'd know I'd have agreed with this sentiment about G.W. Bush two days ago. But as the clock turned to 8:45 Tuesday morning, our biggest national conflict was no longer about politics, state lines, or questionable family "dynasties." To interject a statement about yesterday's tragedy with an insult to America's chief executive is a cheap shot, is unecessary, and is insensitive to U.S. citizens who are looking desperately to our leaders for reorganization. We are scared, and are trying to rely on our established system, whether we like it or not, to find some sense of order. To have that system verbally attacked by ANYONE is unsettling, and the act serves no good purpose. For this reason, I absolutely take offense to the statement. Secondly, of course I don't feel safe. How can I? However, my fear is NOT rooted in knowing who the American president happens to be. Rather, I fear for my safety as a natural reaction to a senseless act of violence, as all human beings would. Lastly, the United States of America on the whole does NOT lie in the hands of any one person. As I alluded to in my last post, it DOES lie in the hands of our members of Congress and military officials, but MOST of all, in the American public. Our country lies in our OWN hands: THAT freedom is exactly why we were targeted in the first place. I am not going to pick up (to again quote) the "World's Most Powerful Country" button and display it proudly - if there is anything we as a nation have learned from this, it is that we are NOT invulnerable. Any position the U.S. appeared to other nations to have at the top of an abstract political hierarchy was eliminated the very moment the first plane was hijacked. If I pick up anything to display proudly, it will be an American flag, and I will ask my fellow citizens to hold it with me. While fears about a "WWIII" are absolutely understandable, and while the majority of the U.S. shares these fears, I acknowledge that there will always be people whose first and only response is anger and violence. But, as another Sinisteree pointed out, the likelihood of a mass world war is slim to none. But also know that the American public is not, on the whole, bloodthirsty. We are human and have a right to our emotions, but our republic is based on a system which elects people so that those who cannot regain a level head after an event such as this are equaled out by those who can. Many criticize our system; I have criticized it myself, but it is now that we need it most, and we pray it will work for us. We WILL prove resilience, but we are NOT out to wreak havoc and destroy indiscriminately. All we want is for the people who did this to be brought to justice. To this effect, I am proud of the way we have handled the situation thus far; I am proud of the work of our intelligence officers, and I am proud of their patience. I am confident we will do our best to avoid unecessary casualties, as we fully understand that there is no ONE nation responsible. However, as this attack was committed without regard to distinction between innocent parties and otherwise (in fact, ALL victims were innocent parties), the issue is now broken down to every human being's inalienable right to live. Someone else made the "live-or-die" decision for thousands of people yesterday. I am deeply sorry that there may be consequent casualties elsewhere. I feel no less anguish over the possible loss of innocent lives in any foreign country than I do for the loss of the innocent lives of my fellow citizens. But again, it is unfair to ask the American public to roll over and not defend our right to life. This was not an attack solely on America - it was an attack on freedom. If we do nothing to discourage similar attacks, it could very well happen again, to other free nations. The majority of Sinisterees, if not all, live in said free nations. It will not be so easy to hear others insult your country and its leaders when you're still in mourning and looking for SOME stability. It will not be so easy to offer a blanket statement on the philosophical superiority of peace: I don't argue that fact - I am simply saying that rarely will you find in life a perfect right that is also feasible, especially in a case like this. I don't intend to be morbid, sound bitter, or sound like I am lashing out. I am not angry with the people who expressed sentiments that disturb me; I am simply relaying some of the dialogues going on in the States right now. On a more personal note, I am still proud of my friend's decision to join the Navy and will not discourage him -- and I know this statement will be controversial. My pride in his decision does not stem from anger or a hunger for revenge. I am proud because my friend is putting the rights of his fellow human beings before his own needs (in his case, this alone is a first...). This includes the rights of everyone worldwide. If the U.S. chooses to retaliate via miliatry means, it will be on behalf of all free nations. I don't believe there is any shame in wanting to contribute to that cause. Last week, I would have been the first to join in a conversation about what is wrong within the United States. I am still opposed to capitalism on many levels, and there are so many miniscule political issues about my country that still trouble me. But I ask you again to PLEASE be sensitive to all American Sinisterees, be you stateside or abroad. The media is always biased and there is always a degree if misinformation about what exactly is going on. So pay attention and seek out all sides of the story before condoning or condemning any action. For a lot of us, our world is no longer able to support ideals about turning the other cheek. It is all we can do to clean up the aftermath without crumbling in grief. Throwing around rhetorial questions about right and wrong, which can never be perfectly resolved as humans are inherently flawed, does nothing to help. In time, the U.S. will gather again to try to change our own system to better meet the needs of people worldwide, as I will always hope is a goal of all nations. But right now, our job is to gather together in prayer and rational thought, and handle the situation as it has been presented to us. Thank you again, a million times over, to those of you who understand our position as Americans and are offering condolences in our time of need - and that includes need worldwide, as this has left virtually no one unaffected. Rest assured that the U.S. will support you accordingly in the future. Our idealism insofar as our ability to defend human rights will not be vanquished. In equal parts turmoil and resolve, K. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 04:05:00 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:05:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: Sorry to post twice in two days about basically the same thing, but I felt like I had to write something. I just signed a card for the girl who lives in the room across from me. Her name is Nari. Her cousin was killed. What do you write? I can't write what I'm thinking, the simplified feelings that accompany tradgedy. I wish your cousin wasn't dead so both of you could be okay. The messages all look the same but at least I know we all mean it. Someone outside just asked when it would stop. The scary thing is, it's only been two days. It won't stop for a long time. More people are finding out that they're never going to see their relatives and friends again. My first reaction was to the building too. The image was just too powerful. But inside that shot that keeps getting replayed of this enormous structure falling into itself, hidden behind the celluloid, people are dying in huge numbers and horrible ways. I can't turn on the television without seeing people. I'm sure everyone thinks I'm a jerk for not going to the vigil they're holding tonight. I don't like religious ceremonies. If they help some people feel better I'm glad and think that's reason enough for them to happen. I won't go though. I feel it all already. I'm going to give blood. I'm going to give whatever I can where it's needed. Standing with a bunch of other sad people in the dark is only going to make me feel worse. That's not what I need right now. If anything I need to feel a bit defiant, to feel like rebuilding. They arrested three people in Newton (where I'm at) today. They evacuated the area. One person was arrested in Boston. It's all around me. I'm sick of hearing sirens. Thank you for being here so I could write this. Kara* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 04:30:31 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:30:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: just a short one, i promise Message-ID: <9AC374E5D5A0DA84EA886B6C2F7041DB@chinacat81.wildmail.com> thank you so much, everyone who offered condolences and hugs and words of empathy about my friend...i've been thinking about him all day. and about all of you. he was by himself a lot...just thinking and thinking. i thought maybe if he had known more people like you....i don't know. i do know that i would have been an absolute wreck without the people on #sinister last night, and all of you who sent kind words....really, thank you. you are all amazing. peace and love kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stankin_cooter at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 06:12:30 2001 From: stankin_cooter at xxx.com (Stankin' Cooter) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:42:30 +0930 Subject: Sinister: chins up Message-ID: Alright, I�m sorry, I wasn�t going to post. I know you've all got full enough inboxes already. I couldn�t possibly be further away from all this, being almost exactly on the opposite side of the world, but that hasn�t stopped me from spending the last couple of days with a knot in my stomach and fog in my eyes. I�m not going to speculate, offer fortune-cookie philosophy, or talk politics, as although these thoughts bump around in my head in my more detached moments, I really can�t get away from the thought of the actual people involved. Hundreds of people have needlessly and horrifically died, and many more have lost those that they love. Most of them don�t even know for sure yet. Many more again will not be able to feel safe and genuinely free in their homes for some time, having seen what they�ve seen. I know this is about so much more than that, but that�s really the only terms I can think of it in for the moment. This in itself is too big for me to get my head around. I can�t think of a way to say this that won�t sound hollow and meaningless, but I�m feeling deeply for each and every one of you that�s been touched by this. I was actually chatting in #sinister at the time this happened, probably grizzling on about something completely unimportant, like I normally do. Some sod drunkenly kicked a hole in my living room wall on the weekend, I was most likely moaning about that. When Madeleine first mentioned what was happening, I thought that she was kidding around, or had been taken in by a hoax. As I switched on the television, and #sinister began to fill up with people looking for news of those in New York about whom they care, it all slowly started to sink in. It still hasn�t completely. I cannot describe the surge of relief and joy I felt as each of the New York people I know from #sinister arrived. They were all accounted for, and my very elation at this fact made me feel small, weak and selfish. I was chatting with people who saw this happen with their own eyes, and they carried themselves with such grace, composure and hope, that even in my own shock, I found myself in complete awe of them. If this had happened in a week�s time, my mother would have been there. The fact that she isn�t there makes me happy as well, but I�m sickened with guilt at the feeling, as it means that I�m pleased that of all the people affected by this, that�s one other person that�s lost their mother instead of me. I�d like to think that we�re all in this together, but my home and office are still standing, my friends are all alive, and I can still phone my mum. It would be hypocritical and vile of me to say that I can understand what many of you must be going through. When I finally dragged myself home to get a couple of hours sleep, I looked at the hole in the living room wall. It seemed very small and unimportant. The world also seems smaller now, and the people in it seem less dissimilar. Last night I realised that I hadn�t really listened to any music for a while, or really done anything except try to work, while emailing, chatting and keeping one eye and one ear on the television. I walked home in the small hours, and listened to my walkman. My absolute favourite listee had made and sent me a tape, from New York City, which had reached me just before this happened. I listened to it, and in spite of myself, I smiled. We are still surrounded by beauty in this world, and it�s not as fragile as it seems. Cling to it. The only thing I�d ask of all the American listees is that you don�t let this change who you are (even the ones I normally bicker with). That would be the worst possible result out of all this, and the only way in which whoever has struck against you can win. You might still want to think about changing your bizarre selection of breakfast foods, however, I�ve never understood that ;) On that note, I�m just going to quickly mention something normal and off this subject, before I leave you to it. Another of our finest and most highly decorated listees was kind enough to send me a tape of the Camera Obscura Peel Session (thanks, Miss Madeleine). It was one of the few things that made me smile today, and it reminded me who I normally am, and what I�m normally about. To put it another way, it rocked my arse off. So, the maddest of all possible props to the King of Partick and his illustrious court. I�ll leave you with even more than my usual consignment of bulk love, and absolutely every thought that my boss can do without, -David. Oh, and I almost forgot. THANKYOU. I never really understood the meaning of the phrase 'online commumity' before. You lot are the tops. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 06:30:16 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a note about last night Message-ID: <20010913053016.3401.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone, i think last night was a really nice break from the world...seeing belle and sebastian really raised my spirits for awhile. it was such a great night and such a thing of beauty to see that we can all join peacefully and have such a good time in the face of such a horrific period in our history. Unfortunately after I wrote my review of the show, when i was still happy from the show and had forgotten about all this nonsense, i turned on the news. 10 min of that made me feel just the same again. Although i found some comfort of being able to recall the song "turn turn turn" as it was played the night before--it was kind of comforting. I'd also like to thank the band, even though they won't see this, for being there for us and caring for us even though they aren't even from here. it really meant a lot to see the outpouring of support and for them to play such an amazing set. I think it's what we all needed. carmel ===== "please turn out the light i get a sick confusion headache trying to figure out who's right" *****Heatmiser***** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Thu Sep 13 07:42:18 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:42:18 +1200 Subject: Sinister: for your information .... Message-ID: <003601c13c22$66bb7380$a76137d2@computer> hi folks, To all the American listees, I hope you're doin' OK. Like I said yesterday, everyone here in new Zealand is sickened and sad for you. it's hard to comprehend, living in this tiny, nuclear free, isolationist little nation. but it's hit the world hard .... Anyway, anyone wanting to read some (left-wing) but interesting comments about the events of the last few days should point their browsers to www.michaelmoore.com and then click on "Mike's Latest Message" or whatever it' called. Many of you probably know Mike Moore are the maker of "Roger and Me", and the TV shows "TV Nation" and "The Awful Truth". Another interesting article (which has been ... err ... "avoided" by many) can be at www.msnbc.com - it's about Osama bin Laden, and how he was trained by the CIA in the 80's to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. Feel sick and betrayed yet? Hell, I do, and I'm not even American. Anyway, I hope that these articles give some listees a little more understanding. I am finding it very difficult to listen to music these last few days. Everything seems a little trite, except for Simon & Garfunkel's "Bookends". OK .... sleep tight Americans .... my prayers are with you. Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Sep 13 12:40:17 2001 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:40:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A vain attempt, but I have to try. Message-ID: I just wanted really to make one comment, in response to a mail from Kimberly Girton: > To the host: If there is too much about the latest events being posted, > I understand your right to not pass on some posts. I know my second > post may sound like I am beating a dead horse, but after sharing the > comments on the Sinister list with others, I don't feel that people of > similar mind to myself have been fairly represented. So I have written > one more, and after I submit this for possible post, I will remain > quiet on the public board. Thank you sincerely for your time. I'm not sure I quite understand, but this list is unmoderated for content other than in respect to the list rules, which are there for our ultimate survival, and our continuing ability to talk here. I don't review posts for content before sending them on to the list. Aside from this being inhibitive to what most of you are here for, it would be incredibly time-consuming, and as anyone who's waited for a response from me to a list problem will know, you'd never see posts until three weeks after they'd been sent. So: for the few to whom this might not be clear: you hit send, and, other than a few traps that catch things for approval like attempts to unsubscribe sent to the wrong address, HTML mails, and a couple of people a few years ago who dedicated a few precious weeks of their lives to tell us all repeatedly to fuck off, your mail gets sent out instantaneously to all recipients. No invisible hand is influencing the representation of views in this forum in any way, and what you see is what's being sent. The only hand you will be see will be when the list itself is in danger of imploding. This list is as good, bad, informative, boring, dynamic, crass or life-enhancing as you all make it, and there's no filter in place to change that other than the sound of open debate and the occasionally gentle nudge to you all from list mum. There will come a time when a gentle call may go out to give oxygen to things other than this topic on the list, but I don't think that time is here yet, unashamed as you should all feel to raise other things and allow new shoots of life to sprout. I'm sure most of the mailing lists in the world, be they dedicated to spoons, taoism or hedgehogs will be discussing this right now, and I thank you all that it hasn't turned into the kind Rambo flag-waving scrap on both sides I see in a few other places. It's a brute fact that this terrible thing is in part so much more present in our minds than other atrocities because of the power of the media, because it happened to the one remaining super-power in the world, and specially because of, by the very existence of this list, many of us know and love many many more people in other nations than would have been imaginable a few years ago. It feels pointless to say it, but my greatest sympathies to everyone, American or otherwise who has been hurt by this, or those innocents in every nation who might be hurt as a consequence. If anything, a list like this to my mind demonstrates a lesson we've learnt ahead of our own world leaders, and that they will take some time to catch up on: we are citizens of the world, and though such an event may tempt us to close ranks, I can only echo David Stankin's eloquent plea: all of you, please don't change. honey x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 22:43:16 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:43:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: short words Message-ID: <002f01c13c9d$423fe420$146301d5@aqlzosqt> we all woke up yesterday in a changed world, one which i feel sick and stunned and scared to be living in. i can't imagine what you are going through in america, but i'm thinking of you all. as if that makes any difference. i thought i would post a poem or something, words of hope, but 'poetry makes nothing happen' said wh auden and i suppose he was right. i can't think of anything big enough to heal this. just love to all of you, archel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 16:55:02 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: survivor guilt Message-ID: <20010913155502.55819.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> Hello friends, Thank you everyone for your strength and fellowship during this time of fear and sorrow. A common theme I sense in your emails is feelings of guilt. Feeling guilty for enjoying music, food & drinks, or even life. Please, let's not be ashamed for this most important task that has been given us: picking up the pieces (both literally and figuratively) and getting on with the business of life. If the airlines are running tomorrow, I am planning on going to Seattle to see Belle and Sebastian: Every dance move I make, every waggle of my tail, I will shake it for those who will never dance again. Every song that I sing along, ever-so-off key, I'll sing my heart out for those who'll never have a voice. Every friend's hand I hold, every cuddle and kiss on the cheek, We'll hold each other for all of you who need it. I love you all. See some of you in Seattle, I hope!! -elise PS. My apologies if this has offended or troubled anyone. It's not meant that way. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jpayne at xxx.org Thu Sep 13 16:54:17 2001 From: jpayne at xxx.org (Jenny Payne) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Red Cross Message-ID: Hello all, my post does not seem to have made it through. I'm resending because there may be a few of you that were interested in ways to help the Red Cross. I won't forward you my NY friend's e-mail which describes what he saw and dealt with the other day. It's too graphic and disturbing. To give you a hint, though, when he came out of his apartment, he assumed a bomb had gone off in a meat truck. It's absolutely unthinkable to imagine yourself in these victims' place, or in that of their families. This is war of the worst kind. Let's stick together if we can. Jenny ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenny Payne To: Peter Carter Cc: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Re: Sinister: Helplessness of another kind On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Peter Carter wrote: > I tried donating to the disaster fund on amazon and it told me that the > postcode for my address is incorrect. The correct postcode for my correct > address. Does anyone know of another way to donate? A website or a number? I thought several of you may be interested, so posted to the list. Hope that is ok. Ways to donate to the RED CROSS: ================================================================== * If you have a PayPal account, send your donation to Relief at PayPal.com, or visit http://www.paypal.com * You can make a donation by credit card at Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX * You can also pay by credit card at the Red Cross website https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp (This site seems to be working about half the time.) ================================================================== I'm sure *any* amount is appreciated. There is so much work to be done. There are also many blood drives going on throughout the east coast. Love him or hate him, I think now is not the time to criticize our President, but to unite. Not only as Americans, but as countries who value their freedom. I live right in the middle of Norfolk and D.C., with many friends who work and live within walking distance of the Pentagon. All were terrified by this beyond belief. And in Norfolk area schools, they let the kids out of school early so that they could say goodbye to their daddies, who were being sent out on ships. It's all very devastating. Love from, Jenny +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From KOdle at xxx.org Thu Sep 13 18:08:46 2001 From: KOdle at xxx.org (Odle, Katharine) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:08:46 -0700 Subject: Sinister: do something pretty. . . Message-ID: <51DF01F252F0D111B2550008C7F4505401345646@sdymail.ymca.org> Hello, dear Sinisterees. I should probably begin with the usual disclaimer about being newly out of the nursery, and this being my first post and all, but it seems unnecessary at a time like this. I still can't believe this whole terrible tragedy, and it's bizarre to me to go on as usual, but what else can you do in a situation like this? I feel like I've been in a fog of grief and pain ever since Tuesday when the reality of the horror set in. Although I live on the west coast of the US, and geography was enough to prevent me from losing any of my friends and family in this awful event, I still feel completely stricken by what happened. It has been so strange to just be at work and have to make an effort to go on with the usual daily tasks. Yesterday, I went home and watched the news some more, and was completely flooded with grief again. My best friend called me, which was so comforting, and he convinced me to turn off the television, which was really what I needed. I don't want to ignore what's going on, by any means, but there's only so many times I can watch those horrible images over and over. I feel completely saturated already. I hate the news, too-- the situation in itself is so completely horrific without the newscasters throwing a slant of sensationalism on everything. One of the most disturbing things yesterday was that our city's newspaper (and I'm sure that our's wasn't the only one) published pictures of people jumping out of the building before it collapsed. How completely horrible and disrespectful! I can't imagine what it must have been like to have to have made a decision like that-- to be forced to choose the way to die. It seems sacrilegious to have published those pictures. Think of the family members who will have to see those! How awful! This thing is bad enough without trying to make it into the most dramatic, eye-catching way to sell papers or snag television spots. Anyway, thank you so much for all of your support and kind words. This list has been a remarkable source of comfort. Especially because people have been so careful of other listees' feelings. We have all been profoundly touched and changed by what has happened, and it is nice that we have each other to turn to, as well as the other things that help us find peace and happiness. I would like to echo other posts that have encouraged people to continue to live life and seek joy. It is amazing to me that just last week, I got to experience the beauty of two Belle and Sebastian shows. I was floating on air, and couldn't fathom that something like this could happen. However, it does give me hope that there are many more moments of joy and beauty to be had, and that we will survive this-- together. Much Love, Katie (though not a heart-breaking Katie like some recent posts have described!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahs0 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 12 19:00:54 2001 From: ahs0 at xxx.uk (Adam uni) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:00:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a different view Message-ID: <000d01c13bb4$deb15440$883afea9@h5a2u0> hello all. first off, of course, I want to offer my deepest sympathies to anyone that lost someone in the terrorist attacks. I apologise if I have missed some posts (there have been sooo many!), but I didn't notice anyone with a different point of view. Everyone is being very loyal to the USA, and this is even causing normal people to become racists, the target being any arabs. I'm not a fan of Islam, or religion at all for that matter, I prefer a belief in yourself and fellow people (I think that's humanism), but Islam is a religion I particularly dislike. Never the less I have nothing against muslim people, of people who follow any other religion, simply for their religios beliefs. Where is he going with this - you may ask. Well I'm fed up of the we support america attitude. American have been responsable for the deaths of thousands of palestines, by giving aid money to those Israely war mongers. Israel wouldn't have come about without help from the USA to fight off the arabs. Now, the arabs strike back, no worse than the way israely's and other nation have attacked them. I am in no way condoning the actions of whoever did this. In fact I think they should have electrodes attatched to their bollox, and be hooked up to the national grid till eventual death. As for Bin Laden - he is a LOONEY! He commits these acts in the name of religion (Although we did the same in the crusades), which I think is bollox, he's just a fu*k up. But as for the inocent arabs who are going to suffer when NATO blows the f*ck out of them, it's not on! well, thats my 2 pence worth. I apprieciatte that this may offend some people, so I apologise profusley, It was not my aim. I'd apprieciatte any feedback on this. cheers adam p.s. Thanks sooo much for the rythm gina! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 19:27:52 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:27:52 +0200 Subject: Sinister: motto Message-ID: There is a very famous motto here in Barcelona that says: POP WILL MAKE US FREE. I could not be more agree. Keep alive! Santi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 21:15:10 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:15:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: We are all equal Message-ID: Well, it looks as though the boredom bug has struck me again. *****SKIP THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE ABOUT WTC, just go to the bottom***** As we all know, a great tragedy struck the US, and perhaps, the world this week. As we all know, everyone is up in arms about something. My thoughts? we're all the same. We should never have supported establishing the Israeli nation. It was not our job, we had no reason to. That was a very bad idea. We continue to support then, which maybe is a bad idea as well, but it is our obligation. I think the Palestinians would slaughter the Isrealis if they had the chance, and vice versa. In my opinion, Palestine is very justified in hating us. However, as much as I hate guns, I do believe that guns don't kill people, people kill people. Supplying the funds and guns to the Isrealis is a far cry from killing thousands of innocent Palestinians in a matter of seconds. America has (and will continue) to make lots of stupid mistakes, but none warrant this kind of retaliation. The Palestinians dancing in the streets disgusts me as well. It is, quite simply, below good taste. However, I look in the local newspaper to read people's comments, and I even talk to my own friends, and realize that Americans are just as disgusting. One quote from the paper: "We should deport all aliens, legal and illegal" Hmm... And another: "Its time to close the borders the United States of America and get rid of the scum that hates this country." And one, even from a 'friend' of mine: "We should have wiped out all those towel-heads years ago in Bosnia..." Not only are many Americans hateful, but incredibly ignorant. I doubt every Palestinian was celebrating in the street, the same way not every American thinks like these poor schmucks. If NATO attacks a country, then we are just as bad as the terrorists, for it was but a few that did this horrible deed, and not a whole country. But until that day, this country, however flawed and foolish it's government is, is still a great country. The mass support of the bloodbanks, the city workers of New York, proves this to me. I think a lot of Americans have done a bang-up job at recovering from this, and a lot of the world had done a great job in showing support. Kudos to you all, and especially sinister (quite possibly the greatest group of people I have ever encountered). I would also like to thank Elise for putting what I was feeling so well. I think the best thing to do is just to move on, and remember those who died so tragically. *******END OF WTC STUFF*************** In other news, I put in my resignation today. I worked there for 5 years, and now I am jobless. A full time student. I'm a bit excited, but you are all going to have to stop me from spending money on CD's and Vinyl. So stop talking about all the great new music, cause I don't want to hear it! I'm closing my ears now.. lalalalalala :) Also, is anyone going to Built to Spill/Modest Mouse or beulah in atlanta? I think all my friends bailed on me for those. :( And where are all the plethora of gig reviews? Come on people, some of us are salivating for more B+S! They always make me happy, especially in troubled times like these. And post some pictures too, I know quite a few of you got pictures with the band. Okay good folks, sorry if I wasted your time. I didn't mean any harm. I love you all. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oooon at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 21:49:19 2001 From: oooon at xxx.com (oon) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:49:19 +0700 Subject: Sinister: lovers of the world united References: <3B97B6CE.996932BE@cscoms.com> <3B9E2E31.84F81480@cscoms.com> <3B9E452C.5EFD7C0C@cscoms.com> Message-ID: <3BA11BCF.EB658527@cscoms.com> Dear all, you have to wonder what can possibly be talked about next to/after what happened. i wish i can think of something nice that can cheer things up. but anything remotedly funny/happy doesn't seem right, or lose effect alltogether. inevitably, i haven't been able to think much of anything else beyond it. i stopped watching the news yesterday, but now having to read/watch everything again and again, trying to understand what have happened and is going to happen. as a person who lives here, Thailand, as far away from the disaster as can be, if this effects me this much, i can't even begin to understand what people in the destroyed area must be feeling. not to think of those who lost loved one must be feeling. the least i can do is sending my condolences and saying prayers for those who suffer in any way. surely every human being everywhere is doing the same. there's nothing more i can express, a lot of list people have already said what i want to say a lot better than i can already. i'm thankful for everyone who are safe. please keep well. all the best, oon xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 21:56:39 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:56:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: summer turned to fall pictures on the wall Message-ID: <20010913205639.10288.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> I'm not sure why I...but. hm. things have happened that made me pull my trousers on back to front. and to want to watch woody woodpecker and enjoy him. and to be able to choose exactly what I think about. you're okay. this is brief. FOR A PICNIC. saturday is FAST approaching. food and chat in the open air. I think I could type some words in french and appear cultured. or appear something. we're still going to meet in the waverley station. it's still going to be at two o'clock. we're still going to be in a huddle. the huddle's still going to be outside wh smith's. and now. we're going to walk. to the west gardens. I should imagine. to near the fountain and the carousel. excited? and there's grass that doesn't slope too much. and the sheltering bits. which we: won't need. I hope. easy, eh? 'marx and engels' on the new single. I think this was predicted in private correspondence between mister ian nicolson and myself. well. kinda. there is a flat being warmed by a party in the evening of the saturday. and one of the flat's occupiers, a harry hunt, has let me know...has made it clear...that anyone who would like to attend this LARGE party after the picnic would be more than welcome. I have his telephone number. ask me. I, myself, am considering this invitation and I know of a couple of people who might also be interested in going. going. tomorrow I'll meet a couple of sinister ones in a train station and we'll have a phone conference with another. and another? and some drinks. this is shaping up to be a sinister weekend. with drinks. spelling isn't everything. but it is important. now. I'm going. going. bye-bye. bye, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From staralful at xxx.com Thu Sep 13 22:49:00 2001 From: staralful at xxx.com (jonathan skinner) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:49:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "any mans death diminishes me because i am involved in mankind" Message-ID: dear all words can not really express what happened in america and how they made me feel. Perhaps sickened and shocked are the closest i can get to. At school there are 6 people that have no idea whether their loved ones are ok. I am over the pond in a town just outside Cork City and being in a country that has a long history of emigration to the US i am bound to know some that are affected. For instance a friend of mine at school's brother was at the trade centres on friday last in a meeting and was due to be back there on wednesday (yesterday) for one at 9 am . What happened was wrong and no matter what america have done in the past it shouldn't have ended (or should i say) started in this fashion. The thought of 30000 deaths sends a shiver down my spine so much so that i have barely been able to eat for the last couple of days. In ireland tomorrow the taoseach Bertie Ahern announced that there is to be a day of mourning and that everyone where possible should go to some sort of religeous service. That has never happened in the countries history. I am not going to get involved in any of the politics of the situation because it is not worth it- There will always be people that disagree and i don't think now is the time for a political argument or argument of anykind on here. Alot of the posts over the last couple of days have be really touching and although similar each have their own tale to tell and view to put forth. I hope everyone is ok and am glad at least that alot if not most of the NY sinisters are safe - it is unfortunate that the same can not be said about 30000 others jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 00:31:39 2001 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lee & Lisa) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:31:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lovely thoughts Message-ID: <005001c13cac$3f772960$5ba3ecd8@default> Hello my sweet Sinister family, There is no way to adequately express what I'm feeling right now about Tues., so I won't go into that . Rather, let me say what some others have noticed, and that is , how lovely it is to be here on this list, with kind thoughts lovely words and above all COMFORT in the voices represented on my computer screen. Sinister's a safe haven, that is for certain. One tiny note: I won't be able to attend the Seattle concert, as my flights have been cancelled. I'm a bit disappointed sure, but even though Belle and Sebastian are my favourite band ever and going to see them was a dream of mine, I'm just not that devastated. I continue to hope that I will see them someday, and somehow in the face of all that's happened, it's such a little thing whether or not I get to go tomorrow. I hope everyone who does get to go to the show will have a wonderful time! Dance your butts off, get some things signed by the band, hell, give Stuart a HUG from yourself and ME! We must celebrate beauty and wonder, especially when we need it most. Lots of love to you all, Lisa from Texas +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carle at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 01:32:53 2001 From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:32:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a letter from new york Message-ID: <3BA15028.6C90B282@rcn.com> I used to be a journalist, more or less getting paid to watch things an tell people about them. Old habits die hard. It was another diamond day, light so bright you can barely look into it, barely see into it. It gets that way, the southern exposure does, where the light comes up from that end of the island. The Towers were down there; you could see them from almost every point of the East and West Villages. There weren’t any other high rises all the way down to the tip, and they were that tall. As I lie here, we had to close the windows as the wind was coming up from the south. It smells like ozone mixed with burned rubber and chalk dust. It’s the same haze that has been hanging around the end of the island for two days, and finally, the wind shifted and its come North. They’ve started counting and it was 800, then 3700, then 4700 and you realize it’s people too, you’re breathing people. All the ambulances and police cars and busses and military vehicles and fire trucks coming up Avenue A, trailing dust its not just dust anymore. I can close my eyes and stand right on the corner of Liberty and Church, facing the sunset. To my left, up the block at 77 Trinity Place is the bridge over Church Street to the old Trinity Church, there since the Revolution. That’s where Alexander Hamilton and Robert Fulton are buried. Directly to my left is the Burger King I used to go for snacks and sit on the second floor and watch the traffic heading for the Tunnel. Next to that is the small fire station where the firemen hang out and play tricks with unsuspecting passersby, like tieing a thread to a five-dollar bill and then jerking it away from anyone bending to pick it up. Funny guys. Everyone in the city is walking around like they are stoned, like on top quality grass. And even weirder, they look you in the eye, and smile, and wave, and say, Hello, Are you ok? A candlelight vigil in Washington Square last night was very beautiful, hardly a breeze to disturb the flames, old folk songs by Tom Paxton, Pete Seeger and Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, songs I hadn’t heard in decades. Prayer service at St. Marks Church flyers tacked up on walls everywhere around, pictures of the missing, praise for the cops and firefighters cordons at 14th Street, Houston and Canal—Canal being the deadline: can’t even go past with an ID. I was there, with my wife and some friends, Saturday night, perfect evening. Another of those free summer shows on the plaza, the Twyla Tharp dance company, doing a piece to a Mozart clarinet concerto and then The Sinatra Suite. Twyla spoke to the crowd at intermission, to answer Q&A about her role in dancing and choreographing "HAIR", mocking some guy who thought the Mozart piece was "hokey", and then she talked about the dance, about motion. And she said something like: When you sit here in this great plaza, under these magnificent towers, and think that everything, even these towers, are in motion, you see the dance in everything. And everybody looked up, and you could see a star right there, and my friend Rick said, that’s the Pole Star. And then the Sinatra Suite came on, and it was sentimental and melancholic and utterly entrancing. "Give me one more for my baby/and one more for the road " Right at the corner of 14th and Avenue A, a local artist named Chico—he’s been doing murals here for 15 years—threw up a memorial on the side of the dry cleaners. A spray can vision of the apocalypse and the numbers "911". (That also means "emergency" here in the states, the number you dial when in trouble.) There must be 500 candles out there, in votive glass containers, at least ten times what there was when he did the Princess Diana one. And there’s more every hour, and flowers. The guardsmen from the Humvee got down to look at it. My wife called me from the office and said that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. I turned on the tube and ran up to the roof. Looking south from 12th Street, it was on fire, a long black plume in a direct line of sight over the steeple of the Ukrainian Church, the one with that cantilevered double-cross, green—probably copper gone bad. Then the other tower burst into flames. Couldn’t see the plane. By the time my wife got back home and we and we made our way through the crowds carrying water bottles in plastic bags to the Beth Israel Med Center on 16th and 2nd, the line was around the block, all the way around the block. A guy stood in the street and shouted: THIS IS A LINE ONLY FOR MAKING AN APPOINTMENT FOR BLOOD DONORS. YOU WILL NEED TO FILL OUT THIS FORM AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU AN APPOINTMENT TIME. IF YOU HAVE A BLOOD DONOR CARD, PLEASE GO TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE. ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY MEDICAL SKILLS OR TRAUMA SKILLS OR GRIEF COUNSELLING, PLEASE GO TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE BLOOD IMMEDIATELY, THERE IS A TEMPORARY CENTER BEING SET UP AT 67TH AND 1ST BUT WE AREN’T SURE IF THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE YOU IMMEDIATELY AS WE ARE OUT OF DONOR BAGS. That’s when we ran into Katherine. Her husband Barry came up shortly with two forms saying, I had to go to the copy shop around the corner and make my own, but they’ll be coming around with more later. No one seemed to mind. The sound of F-16s flying over are very unique, unlike any other jet I’ve ever heard, searing, scorching. And every time they do, spontaneous applause. The discussion spreads to the strange questions on the form, odd diseases no one has ever heard of. In the silence, Katherine says, I know I won’t be able to give blood today, but I have to do something. I said, You are doing something, you’re doing the one thing that all New Yorkers do best, probably better than anyone else on the planet: You wait in lines. Ran into Ellie when we rounded the corner, she was complaining that, This is emergency preparedness?, gesturing to the solid, unmoving wall of cars and busses along 2nd Avenue. Shortly thereafter, the man came around again, much more hoarse, and said: THIS FACILITY IS NO LONGER ACCEPTING ANY MORE APPOINTMENT FORMS. PLEASE GO TO ANY OF THE OTHER FACILITIES holding up the forms, an unopened orange juice carton clutched in the center of them. We couldn’t get any newspapers yesterday; they weren’t being delivered in Manhattan. Funny how you miss things like that, as if you weren’t seeing everything on TV. The only paper delivered downtown, oddly, was the downtown’s own Village Voice, the freebie. It was the standard weekly, prepared over the weekend, but the cover and one full page story. Headline: THE BASTARDS! And a shot of the plane hitting tower one. Can’t remember how many articles its had condemning the police and supporting leftist revolutionary guerillas, and now, it seems there are no atheists in foxholes. And people were grabbing them up as fast as the bales could be untied. The face masks are very popular all over. There are three types: the medical/surgical kind that is a blueish cotton cloth with white backing material that wraps over the ears; the styrofoam micropore cup kind; and the white, rubber band-seal kind used by construction workers. I saw at least one painted with an American flag. Took the Mayor’s advice and went out to dinner at the sushi restaurant. With us, there were only four people in there, at 7pm on a Thursday night. The woman at the next table asked if we knew if the George Washington Bridge would be open tomorrow. She was supposed to fly to Michigan on Sunday, but decided to drive it instead. Going to see her sister and family seemed, to her, like something she shouldn’t put off, couldn’t. We talked about Michigan and sang the commercial jingle for the Kroger's grocery store, and laughed. I’ve lived in this city for almost 23 years, been through more World Series celebrations than I can remember, a Millenium party, John Lennon’s death, the Tompkin’s Square Riots, Wigstocks and this is the first time I think I understand what it means to say: I’m a New Yorker. And I'm not a religious man either. But prayers can hurt at all, and, if Pascal's bet is right (probably Gordon knows better than me), they might help. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Fri Sep 14 03:01:42 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:01:42 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Strawberry Fields Forever Message-ID: <00eb01c13cc1$33afd2c0$07facdd4@q2x8k0> -always know sometimes think it's me but you know I know when it's a dream- Me: I don't know, I think this song is my all time favourite. Because... because it seems like the absolute dream...not the strawberry fields themselves, not a place where nothing is real... It's not the lyrics, it's how it feels.... like... everything that as a kid you dreamed they existed... but now you found/know/think they don't exist... Andreea: I remember when I first heard strawberry fields forever... and I know I will have that line stuck in my head, just the way the Beatles sung it, forever. I remember immediately thinking of this strawberry field, where the strawberry vines are really tall, covering most of the height of the person I imagine running through, it's all red and green but still with empty space in between, not just a sea of red, but a sea of strawberries, an endless sea. I never dreamed it much further than that, there was no reason and there is no reason now to think of leaving that field, just being there is enough. Me: I rarely ever cry because of a song, but today, as I was listening to it,I almost did. Instead, I lied there wishing -praying- it existed, that it was all true, and we could all move there. And... I don't know, dream on for yourselves from this point. And yet at the same time my heart was aching for its absence, there was a part of me that knew/thought/believed it was something more than a dream... I don't dare tell you it exists. Not after what happened, not with so many people around. But I would have told you it exists, if you were there to ask me then. It exists... We might not be able to board a boat or a train and go there, but maybe we can make it come true... a wee bit... or maybe more. Andreea: So much of the time we all spend dreaming of something beyond -beyond present, beyond future, beyond our own spaces, beyond ourselves; and then something happens, to bring us back into our own bodies; because at the end of the day it's all we have. We reach so far out in our dreams, that we forget ourselves, our surroundings, we forget what we really have. And we forget that our dreams could not exist for a moment without us, outside of us, we feel they're far away... But really they're closer than all else. So let's let our dreams swim up to the surface of our souls, of our hearts. Me: Our dreams depend on us. As does the beauty in the world. David said :"We are still surrounded by beauty in this world, and it's not as fragile as it seems. Cling to it." Honey said the list is what we make of it. These days, this makes me proud. The world is what we make of it too. (These days, this makes me sad). Don't be scared, cause that what he terrorists want. And don't hate, because that's what they do. Try not to be too sad. Try to understand instead. Don't fight with each other about what it means. Just take a moment to think how the world could have been/become better. Then do something to make it true. How? David also said, and Honey repeated, 'don't let this change who you are'. I'd say, rather, if you change, change for the better. If you have been shaken and shocked, the best you can make of it is to become more true to yourselves. And hang on to your dreams... Andrea tells me to say : "love each other or perish"- w.h. auden, inhale that before you look at it as just words! But I remember her saying too, "go out and look at the sky, sometimes it helps" And I say: Keep the faith, and dream on. Dimitra ps, we both say: If you think there's something you can do to prevent further violence of any kind, especially bombings, make sure you do it. In whichever country you may live in. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tobikid at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 04:10:31 2001 From: tobikid at xxx.com (Graham Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:10:31 +0900 Subject: Sinister: Be careful out there... Message-ID: Hmmm...my first post...and not a happy one I'm afraid I hope everyone is safe and well tonight, and all your loved ones too. I've spent the aftermath trying to contact my friend Ali, who has been working in a hotel on Church, in Manhattan, for the last few months. About an hour ago I received word from another NY friend. Ali, it would seem, is alive but hardly well. Having survived this weeks horrific events unscathed he was beaten half to death in the street. Ali is a 27-year old Arab Kuwaiti. Be careful out there people, for yourself and for others. It just seems to me all this should make us stronger, not weaker. Anyway take care, TBWTHE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phat_buu at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 04:13:42 2001 From: phat_buu at xxx.com (Todd Johnson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: follow his elephant into the moon Message-ID: <20010914031342.35706.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Tommarow I'm off to see Belle and Sebastian for the first time. I've been a fan for a while and never had a chance to see them preform. Its hard to be exicited as I was when I first bought the tickets, due to the recent tragedy. I am actually nervous to see them, not a clue why though. Kinda sad that I don't have many friends that enjoy B & S. There is one person but she is out of town, so i'll be attending this concert solo. It is nice to have someone to share art with. However I assume the crowd will be filled with fun people, well I don't know this, but I can hope. If anyone on the mailing list is going,(they might have allready posted something, but i haven't had time to read all the e-mails) you can look for me, i'll be the solo character wearing probably a blue jersey t-shirt. yup thats me. okey dokey, Time to chew on plastic cars and paint drums. (Random?) good bye and take care. ===== -Sir Benjamin October Cylde __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Fri Sep 14 11:32:52 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:32:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I get my therapy from music Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F43@PIKACHU> OK, this is going to be under 15 minutes, so sorry about that, I won't do it again, please punish me Honey, I like it when you do that... I've been struck by everyone's attitudes on here to the tragedy in the States. I'm certain a lot of people on here (myself included) have very strong opinions on the reasons behind the attacks, and what should be done about them, but people have been considerately keeping them to themselves. We may have almost come to expect that on Sinister, but it's still very unusual in the wider world, so a pat on the back for everyone. That's why I've stayed on this list for four years - you're not likely to meet a kinder bunch of people. Incidentally, we've just had an immaculately observed (round here at least) 3 minutes silence right across Europe. Personally I need to draw a line under it now, because I don't want to let these idiots change my life; but I realise others out there can't do that, and we're still thinking of you. Anyway, what I wanted to ask was: is the Manchester picnic that was planned for Sunday still going ahead? And if so, where and when? Could someone let me know before I go home for the day please? Thanks! Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_fear66 at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 11:46:18 2001 From: the_fear66 at xxx.com (Matt Powell) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:46:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Salako/Dudley Corporation in london Message-ID: Hi all. Sorry for the blatant advert, but I don't know how else to do it, and I'm sure some of you will be interested in this. Salako are playing tomorrow night at the Spitz in Liverpool Street, with support from former list members The Dudley Corporation, and also the Channel Six. Doors are at Eight and its a mere �5 to enter. The Dudleys will actually be spreading their musical goo all over london this weekend, starting at RoTa on Saturday afternoon, moving on to the Spitz and culminating in the album launch on Sunday evening Upstairs at the Garage. All details can be found on their website at www.thedudleycorporation.com In other news some of us in London are planning a charity event for the victims of this weeks horrific events. If you would like to get involved, or if you would like to do an event in your own town and want to tell me about it or get some help drop me a line. Take care all. Matt.x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 12:41:35 2001 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:41:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: SAT: Blue Posts=indie pop [the Pines, Beaumont, Relict, Jinx, Bart] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010914123208.037d1c38@shell12.ba.best.com> Since Matt lobbed a blatant advert, I thought I'd do so as well. Saturday night also heralds STYLUS, an eve of indie pop melodies at the Blue Posts (north off Oxford Street, Tottenham Court stop). 5 fabulous bands, 1 comfy locale, for the mere cost of 2 quid. I believe that a number of the bands (if not all) will be donating their proceeds to disaster relief for this week's victims. And to no surprise, there are a number of Sinisterines in the bands. Let the rumours abound to who these folks might be, or at least, re: those who occasionally post elegant thoughts on the list. ;^) ~ senor droolcup ~ [ exiting the cavern of lurkers ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 13:45:27 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:45:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i fought in a .. er.. call (EXCLUSIVE manchester picnic info request) Message-ID: <3BB3B23D@MailAndNews.com> Hello! sorry just a quick message in desperation... can someone who is organising/going to the picnic in manchester please give me a call so I know if it's still happening and I can call if I get lost looking for the place? My number is 07967 755446. My last 5 minutes of lunchtime before going back to work then straight to scotland, hope to hear from you soon! Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Winners of the win-a-mixtape competition will be announced next time, but basically everyone who wrote to me won :-) ========================================= Red Bull Dozers http://www.cockscrew.com/rbd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vodkabird at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 15:02:00 2001 From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com) Date: 14 Sep 2001 10:02:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Being together Message-ID: <20010914140200.26377.cpmta@c000.iad.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Photojenni27 at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 15:03:36 2001 From: Photojenni27 at xxx.com (Photojenni27 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:03:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: *Manchester Picnic Info* (Apologies for being so late) Message-ID: <8.19ff5027.28d36838@aol.com> Ok, I'm sorry that this has taken sooooo ridiculously long to be posted, I intend to post this on Tuesday but with recent events, my mind has been (understandably) on other things. I also wanted to give a respectful space to others on the list who have been more personally affected than I by the recent events in New York. But, you wanted to know, so here it is. The Manchester Picnic is still on, and it intends to be a rootin-tootin' good time (that is if you nice people decide to turn up and make a conscious decision to spend Sunday with me.) The venue is going to be a lovely wee place I found in Didsbury called "Fletcher Moss Park" about 20 minutes outside of Manchester on the 42 Bus. It's relatively easy to get to from the City Centre and its just the loveliest place to go picniccing ever, with big oak trees you can climb and rivers to walk along and stuff. It was going to be Platt Fields, but Fletcher Moss is much nicer, just as easy to get to, and there are two pubs next to it as well as Didsbury Village being a 10 minute walk away which is drinking-binge heaven :-) Also, there is (hopefully) less risk of us being flashed at/having ears bitten off/having drunken people accost us if we go to Fletcher Moss ********* Important Bit********** DATE:- Sunday 16th September MEETING PLACE:- In the Old Cock pub which is right next to Fletcher Moss. It's really nice and serves Goldschlager :-) We can meet up in there and then go next door to Fletcher Moss once everyone's arrived. DIRECTIONS:- Get the 42 bus from Piccadilly Bus Station which is a ten minute walk from the train station and right next to Piccadilly Gardens which right in the centre of the City. It's about 20 minutes on the bus, through Rusholme, Fallowfield, Withington and Didsbury Village. You'll see a square across the road from the bus stop in which there is "The Didsbury Village restaurant" "The Didsbury" pub and "The Old Cock Inn." The Old Cock is next door to the Didsbury Village Restaurant. If you just ask the bus driver when you get on the bus, I'm sure they'll be happy to help. TIME:- 2 O'Clock. Enough time to recover from your hangovers gained at the Edinburgh Picnic CONTACT:- My mobile number is 07748 654-239. Just ask for Cay and I'll be happy to help. My directions are reknowned for being notoriously awful so feel free to bug me, what with being the picnic organiser and all. If any of you are really unsure, I'm happy to meet people in the train station beforehand so we can all go to Fletcher Moss together. Just email me or phone me if this is a better option for you. ME:- I'll be the girl in the duffle-coat, black cords and Purple Belle and Sebastian t-shirt no doubt drinking a Whiskey and Coke and smoking a cigarette looking harassed. I have black hair, blue eyes and a sweet smile. Just approach me and say Hello once you get there. I'm a very friendly person. Honestly :D Sorry if this is sketchy/hasty/disrespectful. I can only try. My thoughts remain with all of those who are suffering. My American Grandmother managed to get through on Wednesday night on the phone. My family are all ok. She didn't sound it though. Shock and grief were heavy in her voice. Take Care as always Picnic Mummy Cay xXx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Fri Sep 14 15:14:38 2001 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:14:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: seattle & olympia gigs Message-ID: <000201c13d28$e523cf40$9426fea9@katrina> hi all i'm just posting to say that because i haven't heard any news otherwise, tonight's show in seattle and tomorrow night's in olympia should be going ahead as planned. cheers, katrina. banchory press - management - merchandising po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland email: shop at banchory.net http://www.banchory.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 16:30:15 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:30:15 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I've been on the list for about a year and a half...never really wanting to actually write something until now.  I think that it's that i'm moved by the kindness projected from the emails i've been getting since tuesday. I'm an American boy from california. There are lots of things that I'm thinking when i'm writing this...I don't know if anyone is even going to read it. but...hell. You know, I was going to write my story but I won't...I was just traveling (very slowly) from northern to southern california on the Amtrak on tuesday. I was up in the San Francisco Bay area for the weekend to see Belle and Sebastian(you know when they played "Billie Jean") and visit my girlfriend. I had seen them the thursday before. It turns out that this guy that had gotten on one of the many transfer busses in Fresno with me was traveling back from the same exact Belle and Sebastian concert in San Francisco. I got to meet Stuart after the show and he signed my poster that the warfield was giving out at the door, only to find my cat chewing on it this afternoon. I apologize (said like Peter Jennings), I feel like I'm being very random and i'm definitely not being as articulate as I want. I just really think it's awesome how nice and how feeling and just the extraordinary ideas and words that have been coming from the sinisterites. I'm also in a way confused by this sudden blast of patriotism around me all the time now. I'm an American, you know any other day I might have written that word in lower case letters but now....there are flags on freeway over passes, hundreds of cars, tomorrow is Flag day or where Red White and Blue day at my brother's junior high and it feels good. I've never ever been patriotic, but these last few days have made me think, no feel, what it is to be an American. Maybe it's not just American but what it is to be Free and Alive....I hope I haven't alienated myself from this board. I love reading your emails from time to time.  That's why I signed up, I just thought that everyone wrote so well and thought about things and it was like reading good literature. Now, I've finally written something, and better send it before I delete it all. sincerely   tim   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From machiavellian_llama at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 20:33:51 2001 From: machiavellian_llama at xxx.com (Joe Vester) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:33:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: slighty late Message-ID: <20010914194414.RJTI288.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@[62.253.88.186]> Just to say It's all so sad but I wish people would stop mourning the building. The building doesn't matter but people seem to think it has some kind of priority over dead people. Why? Also, it's ever so scary what's happening to Arabs in America. In Australia, as well, prople attacked a bus with Muslim children on it. And most Arabs aren't happy about it, they feel sad and they feel scared. Some houses near where my Grandmother lives in east Jeruslam were knocked down last night. They hadn't done anything. People there are just scared, because they know they'll get the blame. It really shows, all of this, that people arenothing but disgusting animals of the mostvenemous and vicious nature. If anyone, ever, does something good, someone else will do something twice as bad and do it more times. And if someone does something bad, someone will do something twice as bad as that, too. What's the point at all? I also wish people would stop calling it a war, because it's not, and they'll use war as way of justifying things which we normally wouldn't let happen. Like killing more innocent people, which is obviously what they're going to do because that's what they've always done when it wasn't Americans involved so god help us now. Finally, as a last word for this consequential and obvious post, I think that, whatever impression this post left on you, I don't condone what the terrorists did and that for all my anger at the reaction to it, my main feeling is sadness but more people have expressed that already and done it better than I ever could. You're all wonderful, And I hope you're all okay, even though some of you obviously aren't felling even remotely good, Joe +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 23:16:05 2001 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: vancouver b&s show greatness Message-ID: <20010914221606.50336.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> sin-is-ter, firstly, thank you all for the past few days postings and just that feeling of community. you know, being slightly misanthropic to start with, you all gave me hope and made me hang onto my threatened love for people. loving is so much better. as hippie as it sounds, i'm sending out the love vibes and good thoughts to everyone affected. which is all of us in varying degrees. i think this is like praying. the show here in vancouver was great, of course, and they played 'brilliant career' and 'mayfly' and 'there's too much love' and even a left banke song which they fiddled around with getting right. so very cute. they really are all beautiful, aren't they? i wanted to take them all home (yes, like kittens), but that's a lot of mouths to feed... cute mouths though. stuart and stevie did a lot of fast scottish-accent talking which everyone seemed to understand about 60% of, but it didn't matter b/c stuart's body language made up for it. as did his dancing. isobel swung her hair side to side and made everything feel all mod when you watched her for too long and her voice seemed even whispier than on record. and for so many people on stage, they were tight, perfect. and even songs i was originally lukewarm on were great. aw, it was all great. and also grate. (also, is everyone not in absolute love with stuart? he's so my #1 unattainable crush now. right next to don mckellar. (has john cusack not fallen from grace in the unattainable crush arena? i mean, 'america's sweethearts'? why, john? why? maybe it was lloyd dobler i loved all along...)) and so good to finally see jonathan richman b/c i have missed him the last few times he's been around. he even sang 'vampire girl' and 'to hide a little thought', and did a lot of cute dancing with and without guitar. yes, steve, i wish he was my dad too. i didn't get to hug or hang out with any members of the band, but that's okay. the night was such a mix of happiness and sadness to me. really just overwhelming. the only (temporarily) marring thing would be that we didn't have assigned seats and the orpheum is huge, so those of us who skipped out of work early to line up got some good seats up at the front (people ran! it was craziness), though i knew that when belle and sebastian came on stage everyone would rush up in the space between the stage and the front row and into the aisles. and it happened but, hey, what can ya do, you just have to deal with it. but people kept yelling for everyone to sit down, which just was not going to happen. it just bothered me b/c you could feel their anger, it was there, and it wasn't necessary. especially this week. and, hey, i was 10th in line and about 50 people joined their friends in line in front of me about 15 minutes before the doors opened. and then everyone ran up to the front anyway. if anyone should be bitter, it was me and the 9 people in front of me. but why ruin things that way? it sucks, but if nothing can be done, don't wreck the show for yourself. i just mention it b/c this (certain people's anger/bitterness/obnoxious behavior suddenly affecting an otherwise nice time) happens all the time and in many circumstances. and, on a massive and horrible scale, it happened on tuesday too. i couldn't help but think of that last night, hence my mixed emotions. i guess you just have to go zen over it all. but it's difficult, and it seems that anger is so much easier to feel than love in this circumstance. it's hard to turn that around. and i understand what someone said about comparing her anger/hate/even despair to how it feels to be completely in love. they are all-encompassing, they block out rational thought. but love makes you feel good and you love it, whereas anger makes you feel terrible and you hate it (one would hope.) yeah. okay, so a while ago ken chu made me say 'oh my god!' because he said 'police camera action'! it made me want to get cable in my very own home. that and the return of The Rock. but right now i don't even want to turn on the tv to the one channel i do get. as someone said, we shouldn't feel guilt, but i don't feel that, i just feel confused on a new level. forget post-modernism and even post-post-modernism; this is post-september 11, 2001. i don't even know what to say anymore. and i know this letter is long. love to all, robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Fri Sep 14 23:24:23 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:24:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Je serrai espionne Message-ID: <136.193cb11.28d3dd97@aol.com> Hewwo, Today there was a three minute silence. Except for someone farted during it and everyone started laughing, then some of the girls got quite annoyed. But it was swell in a way, that someone farted, cause it meant that people were getting back to normal and stuff. I think. It was quite rude too though. I received a copy of Baxendale's You Will Have Your Revenge, and I think it's one of the gratest Cds ever. There's not a single bad song on it, it's just amazing pop. It's fizzy sparkly ribena pop and it is absolutely the best thing ever for cheering people up. I can't come to the sinister picnic (alas). I'm going to someone's birthday thing. It was her party tonight, and we all drank juice and danced to Geri Halliwell and Steps, and went home before eleven. It was fun. I learned the dance to Better Best Forgotten. But tomorrow we're all going to the cinema to watch a teen film and I think we're paying for her ticket. It's a really nice idea. And I only felt a little bit sad when only four people out of all of my friends remembered that I share a birthday with her. I'm talking to a girl on MSN. She says I'm sad cause I had fun doing something other than standing about on the fringes of a dank mosh pit nodding my head and trying to look cool. I'd never do that anyway. I nearly burst my stitches today. It wasn't very swell. I made it into the school newsletter. Everyone now knows me as the girl who got put in hospital twice by people younger than her. It's better than being known as the girl who got off with Fay. Twice. I wish I could be useful, sometimes. It said in the paper about some boy in the street who was saying that he wanted to kill all the arabs. Yes, very good dear. A little Ribena goes a long way. Or something. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.carter at xxx.uk Sat Sep 15 00:22:25 2001 From: p.carter at xxx.uk (Peter Carter) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:22:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Picnic Message-ID: <00c201c13d74$1e56f300$84cc87d9@fsnet.co.uk> I'd really like to go to the Manchester picnic on Sunday, and I was just wondering if anyone could lend me their floor for the night. E-mail me off list and I'll be everso grateful. Thanks. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 07:04:56 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:04:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hand me a panini and play my rhapsody.... Message-ID: it was cold outside today. i put on a pale blue cardigan and a plaid woolen scarf and just now, out on the corner for a cigarette, the wind cut right through and made me shiver. it felt nice. i got up this morning and had the pleasure of hearing richard, jeremy and will on the telephone. i couldn't really say anything...i just giggled a lot and my voice was all morning-raspy when i did try to talk, and now i feel like sort of an idiot for being so quiet. they all seem absolutely lovely. i was just really nervous....sorry about that. i hope i didn't make a complete giggly ass of myself. my dad was yelling at me, for some reason. after i hung up the phone he was gone, and he didn't come back for awhile. when he did, he knocked on my door and we talked for awhile and we both cried and he hugged me and i felt like i was five years old, and i felt safe. after that, i got in my car and i listened to ella fitzgerald and the sun shone through my window and i smiled, and i'm pretty sure my cheeks were glowing. i went into the little read bookshop and looked through a photography book for awhile and there were some beautiful photos of weddings and windmills. it was strange to be at work. a girl brought in little safety pins she'd decorated with red, white and blue beads, and i have never ever been a patriotic sort of person, and for as long as i can remember i've wanted to get out of the US for good. but i found myself pinning it onto my sweater and, for the rest of the day, glancing down at it was oddly comforting. we didn't play music in the shop for two hours. it was supposed to be a time of silence and reflection. a couple of girls came in and bought candles and a sparkly zodiac-sign lighter and i saw them on the street later, sitting at the bus stop and holding those candles. you could see a sort of dim glow on every street corner. it was beautiful, in the damp cold twilight. a boy i met tonight doesn't speak english, and i was able to talk to him a little bit, very very slowly, in spanish. i hadn't tried speaking it in a long time, and i suddenly remembered my freshman year of college when i had a spanish class, and our final project was an open-topic paper, five to seven pages, in spanish. my paper was called something like "por que yo quiero a vivir debajo el mar," which is probably all wrong but it was the best i could do. i wrote seven pages about how much i wished i could live under the sea, as long as i could find a convenient way to smoke underwater. we had to read the papers in front of the class, and everyone else had written about don quixote. it was quite embarrassing and my professor laughed and laughed and said something about jose cuervo helping me with my paper. i don't know what that has to do with anything. but it's not sad and it's not scary. it sort of makes me laugh. xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carmellie at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 08:17:55 2001 From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: seattle show review Message-ID: <20010915071755.11604.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> i'll make this short and sweet as possible... the seattle show was quite delightful tonight. Again, I'd like to thank the band (esp. Stuart) for being so great during this time. We got to have a minute of silence before the music started--it was beautiful. The set list was very similar to the portland show. They played Dirty Dream #2 though and a cute small girl went up and spoke the french part into the microphone--she got a t-shirt from stuart for her troubles. They also threw out candy and goodies from the stage that someone had given them. I got a piece of licorice stuart threw-i have a feeling i'll be finding a stale, hard piece of unidentifiable red crap in a couple months in my stuff. I think i have a small unattainable crush on Stevie--he is sooo great! They also played Me & the Major and he played the harmonica. So great. Their version of Jimi Hendrix's "Crosstown Traffic" was fun too--finally got some people to move. I can't understand NOT dancing during a B&S show! It seemed like half the people up front weren't even that excited to be there. I was rocking out by myself in the middle....like usual. Well, hope today was more peaceful for everyone. All of us continue to pray for the victims and the rest of the country. I hope my aunt can get out of there soon--she's stuck in the "Ground Zero" area and can't get back to LA until at least next week--God help us all. Carmel ===== "please turn out the light i get a sick confusion headache trying to figure out who's right" *****Heatmiser***** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carle at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 16:22:10 2001 From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:22:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The State That I Am In is called New York Message-ID: <3BA37218.DCEEFFA3@rcn.com> Stepping into the role of list-mummy for a minute, if I may, I would like to say that the few flames here are only mildly disturbing. (FYI, nobody has been beaten to death in NYC. We have three daily newspapers and not one of them has reported anything but minor harassments, regretable but understandable, and some spate of random disorganized slurs, same, with an attendant rise of fear amongst the muslim and arabic communities.) But even the other remarks, qualifying their compassion with criticism of US foreign policy, are as easy to dismiss. "Polarity, or action and reaction, we meet in every part of nature---to empty here, you must condense there. An inevitable dualism bisects nature, so that each thing is half and suggests another to make it whole; as spirit, matter; man, woman; odd, even; motion rest." That’s what Emerson had to say on compensation. And an event of this magnitude really demands that we all react, or deny our common humanity. So I prefer to read between the lines and see frustration and anger coming out in some intense, if peculiar, manners. After getting a nice note from the Duke regarding my letter, I thought to add one more thing before returning into lurkerdom. I still have 700 unread messages on my hard drive; I cannot keep up with the amount of articulate, funny, intelligent and generally amazing posts here. I have often thought about deleting them and just going on from there, or hitting "unsubscribe" altogether. But Sinister is like this soap opera you just can’t stop watching; no matter how many heroes and villains show up and go down, you really can’t just walk away. Or, to get back to Emerson and nature analogies, the stories intertwine and weave like vines crawling up the side of a building and you realize that what may be a nuisance has become part of the landscape. And right now, we are compensating, big time. Yeah, I realized something else too. My letter was not that much different from our old Ink Polaroids. Those are great. We should get back to that very soon. I’m not here to wave the red flag in front of a bull (or a red bull in front of a flag, Ken). Or wave any flag at all, really. If Emerson has anything right, then maybe there is a lesson here about an impossibly awful act suggesting something equally good. I don’t claim to know what it is, but I’ll tell you what I hope will come out of this. I want a song. I want some effectively potent cheap music. I want "A Day In The Life." I want "Wouldn’t It Be Nice." I want "Sugar Mountain." I want "The State That I Am In." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phat_buu at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 19:23:07 2001 From: phat_buu at xxx.com (Todd Johnson) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You make me feel like a Napkin! Message-ID: <20010915182307.48832.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I just got back from the seattle gig last night, the show was spectacular, the crowd wasn't really into dancing like someone else said allready, but i did the best i could with the space provided. Stuart was throwing out Twinkies and he got one to me, it took him three times, but he got it too me and i was thrilled. Although, that wasn't the highlight of my night. After the show and after things died down a little i went outside and headed for the parking garage. I saw some people out by the buses talking so I joined them. Eventually Isobel came out and she and I got a picture together. As soon as there developed im going to post them. I was acctually really excited I had never met anyone as cool as her. I also had the chance to meet and talk to Johnathan Richman for a while, hes a really nice guy, I told him he talks like Rocky. I had know idea that he was the guy in There's Something about Mary. Overall it was a great night and I'm looking forward to tonight. Good BYE everyone, have a good day. ===== -Sir Benjamin October Cylde __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ettirgam at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 21:27:03 2001 From: ettirgam at xxx.com (marikka) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a sobering hour Message-ID: <20010915202703.52143.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> Amazing how hard one week can be. Equally amazing is the immediate change in personality one goes through. One day, I was happy and excited, writing letters because television offered no entertainment and reading about lead-based paint hazards was not at all intriguing. Then the next, I spent shaking, trying to remember what numbers I had, where I had them, and how if unable to call I would find people, especially 3000 miles away. With frantic phone calls into friends, I learned that two were fine and their families were fine. Then I learned that my best friend's mother was six blocks away and saw it all. I want to be in Brooklyn with her right now to hug her and really just cry with her because I am haunted without seeing it actually happen. And now, four days after calling frantically, my friends are slowly telling us that they are okay. And all I have wanted to do is fly to New York to help. It still seems so foreign and removed. Planes flying into skyscrapers just doesn't happen. It is as if we are all forced to live in some terrible disaster movie where the disaster doesn't stop when someone screams "Cut!" Tired from worry, but not fear. Fear only hit me last night as I left the East Bay and drove along Interstate 80 to Sacramento. Suddenly, I realized that it might not be over. Driving home brought me back to some sort of perspective. I saw people on the overpasses with flags and candles and wanted to explain why I wasn't with them, that at that exact moment, all I wanted was to see my family, so instead of stopping I waved. Now that I am home, all I want to do is something. It doesn't need to be important or in anyway profound. Maybe I will visit a record store and just stay for awhile walking around searching. My sister and I considered a movie, but aside from fatigue, I think I am afraid that I will miss something. I never thought my life would change in a day. I never thought I would be able to care so much about strangers as I pass them in the store. Anyway, I think I am going to go wander about collecting thoughts. I send my best wishes to all. Marikka. Oh, if anyone is a Yale alum and/or looking for others go to www.yaleherald.com/safe. And the Belle and Sebastian shows in SF were fabulous except for when I nearly fainted Sunday night and had to run outside for air. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Sep 15 22:13:46 2001 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the only living boy in New York. Message-ID: <20010915211346.28910.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone! Returned today from my wee trip up north with da boyfiend. I thought I ought to check my e mails, as the lovely john john told me that you lot had posted something like seventy odd posts in a day. Busy bees indeed. And in a way, this post might feel like its a little too late.. I've missed the rush in some sort of way. But you know what I'm talking about. As we drove up, I was sitting in the car, as Mark drove along the M8 towards Edinburgh then to the forth road bridge. None of these details are important really though are they, but I'm trying to give you my context of how things occured, in that car, on that day. Mark got a message from his pal john on his mobile at around 2.15pm GMT. I frowned at first, with odd confusion. Then I thought "Hey, maybe it was just some military excercise, planes flying in formation, and they had just swooped too low and caught the roof of the building." You know, maybe not even a victim, just one very sore pilot.So we switched on the radio, and scowered the pop commerical and BBC radio stations for news. The first bulletin was short, like they usually are. Short bulletins usually suggest to me, that its bad, but I had no idea what had happened.. the whole scenario of it all. Then, by three oclock, the news was flooding every radio station, thick and fast, the details flowed, the rumours and scares and fears and unconfirmed reports just poured into our ears, filling our heads with frightening amounts of information... up to eleven hijacked planes.. two into the pentagon... evacuations in London.. it went on and on and on... the sound of pertrified and shock ridden voices of eye witnesses from the streets of New York, the stories of people jumping from the buildings... I don't think I need to tell you anything more, do I really. You know what happened. You've probably all heard of the Nostradamus predictions (the books are apparently all sold out, and I leant my copy of his predictions to a pal of mine), seen the TV filled with the pictures of weeping relatives, trawling the streets with their missing posters and plastering them across emergency service vehicles. And I can't imagine. The holiday itself was great, but all that time, we sat watching CNN and BBC news for details, seeing the newspaper pictures, Mark calling his pal who works at Heathrow as an air trafiic controller (Mark himself has been at Prestwick these past few months. Both he and his pal were glad to be on their holiday for all the chaos that has been going on around the airports in the UK.) I've watched countless programmes, everything from analysising George W Bush's role (or lack of role) in this incident. And I have to say, I thought the way people were so flippantly analyising him right now was quite frankly, a little bit uncalled for. I mean, who cares if right now, hes not a great spokesperson? The world trade centres have been obliterated from the skyline of New York, of course he didn't exactly have time to sit and write a speech, when he himself could be at risk, and tens of thousands of people could have died and the pentagon was targeted and people died! And for a moment, I felt sorry for him. Afterall, who would really want to be the President of The USA, right now. The best bits might be, say, having someone deliver you breakfast in bed. And not having to pay for it, or you know, perform sexual favours for it. (I'm sorry if this sounds flippantly ridiculous, but I'm in one of those odd humours at the moment, where I feel sad, and the only thing I can do is make stupid flippant comments becuase I don't know how else to react.) But when this happens, what do you do? I don't know what I would do. I think the only thing that can be done, really, is to seek out whoever did this, those directly involved, those who did this- not entire nations- to justice. You know what else has irritated me? flippant comments I overheard this morning at breakfast about "Well, now they(America) know how we feel, perhaps they'll stop providing the IRA with funds". "I think its ridiculous that they're (the American airlines) are making people throw out their shaving razors from their hand luggage. They're overreacting a bit, don't you agree?". But I have to say, these are stupid people. Stupid, ignorant people, who really ought to be ignored. And if you meet any stupid ignorant people like this, ignore them, don't get upset and into fights and arguments with them. But for all of this, you know what really really, really struck me? morethan the pictures in the paper, more than the terrifying images blitzing the news? You lot. Here I am. I can turn off the TV. I'm not apathetic to it all, you know, but in a way, its different. you lot. you really know how to make a girl come home, and find ten digests, and get that horrbile empty achy feeling deep in the depths of her belly with your words. Some angry. Some sad. Some offering comfort and touching and affectionate. But all of them shocked. And sometimes you said sorry, and said you didn't know what to say. Well, you know, I'm not there. I'm not in New York. I possibly don't have a rigfht to say this, but heres the thing, that from an almost objectional view point, seeing those posts, each one tinged ith sadness, shock, tenderness, and sorrow, fear, worries, hopes, dreams, and overwelming emotion, I thought they were very moving. I'm not there, but I thought you ought to be told. I read them all, and tried my hardest, to stay somewhere inside, that I might think "These are old posts". ****************************************************** A concern that has arisen, is how everyone has suddenly gone potty about Nostradamus, certainly in my inbox anyway. the following information has been circulating as a prediction: In the year of the new century and nine months, >From the sky will come a great King of Terror. The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls; the great leader will succumb; third big war will begin when the big city is burning On the 11th day of the 9 month, two metal birds will crash into two tall statues in the new city, and the world will end soon after. So I thought you might like to be pointed to this website, to perhaps relieve some of your worries. http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm ****************************************************** Love to all. idles. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahs0 at xxx.uk Sat Sep 15 17:57:03 2001 From: ahs0 at xxx.uk (Adam uni) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 17:57:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A very cautious hello Message-ID: <001e01c13e07$8c0c6400$883afea9@h5a2u0> hello all! todays abit quite on the sinister front. I've not had too much hate mail over my last email, which I'm grateful for. But I'm not going to dwell on that. I'm not entirly sure what I'm going to say, but I find that this makes for much better emails. One question I've been pondering over is: Are there any welsh sinisterions? Well, if there are, and they are you, come forward now, or forever...eerrm not. I'm a great fan of picnics, but there's not many easy routes out of my uni. There have been alot of new sinsiter types coming out of the cyber wood work, just like me, over the last fortnight, there must be something in the air. Oh, before I forget, I thought I should publically apologise for any missunderstanding from my last email, I know I said I wasn't going to dwell on it, but I supposed I'm going to have to for a little while. I'm not pro-terrorism, I'm not anti-american. A country is mereley dirt and trees and stuff. Americans and Arabs are in my view equal, as are europeans, africans, indians, russians, communists, etc, etc. I like all people unless they give me a reason to dislike them. I really hope that the american proportion of the sinister list can see this, and are prepared to accept it. It's so much easier when we all get along. well, I don't really have anything else to say, I was feeling quite isolated from the list, and all my mates round here are at work, I felt I had to try and make a mends. well, I've said my bit, which will probably be regarded as not really worth the bit stream it's carried on, but it made me feel better to say it. thanks for reading adam p.s. gina, are you pissed at me too? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sun Sep 16 18:46:40 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:46:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: something for the afternoon... Message-ID: <3BA4E580.8F2FF3C5@netscapeonline.co.uk> Hello I'm not going to say anything, really, but of the Edinburgh picnic on Saturday afternoon and, after a train journey with a rather manic bunch of delightful strangers and a quiet couple who supped it all in, uncomplaining... then Harry's party... there's personal stuff I'm not going to go into because three people in the back of a taxi can be far lonelier than one although I later found out it was for the same reasons I thought it was bad... look:sorry; you know who you are. I put some pictures up on this site, and there will be others; better ones, by the likes of cool Rob and Will later I reckon [they use proper cameras and proper tapes of film]. And Richard: you: you done good. You are an organizer:) Ocht! yer all beautiful, so ye are! Gordon http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/gogron/Gordon's/diary2001_16-09-01.htm +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Sun Sep 16 20:35:54 2001 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 16 Sep 2001 19:35:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Seldom cover Message-ID: <20010916193554.14010.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kissingbelle at xxx.com Sun Sep 16 23:42:39 2001 From: kissingbelle at xxx.com (Belle The Grown Up Dog) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:42:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Picnics and Pigeons Message-ID: Well I'm 8 months old now and my life is so very different from the last time I wrote to you all. First of all I have a new collar and new lead, they are really pretty believe me. I look so much more grown up some people even think I'm 9 months old! Can you believe it? Not only that, but the boy that lived with me and the girl, has decided he isn't going to live with us anymore, and will move away very soon. I think it is a good thing really. The boy and the girl shouted at each other so much and it made me quite scared. It takes a lot to make me scared these days. Even that Hoover had better be on its guard with me around. The girl was so unhappy for a few days and I really didn't know what to do. But I kept running up to her and telling her about all the exciting things that I had seen. Like that spider who can walk up walls! (I'm not lying! it really did!) Eventually she smiled and said "what would I do without you?" Another good thing about the boy going, is that, now the girl lets me sleep in her room with her. So now, when it is morning I can tell her straight away. sometimes she doesn't believe me and says "urghh.. belle it is 6.00, its not morning yet" So I wait a while before telling her again. Sometimes it takes a few times of me telling her before she realises it really is morning. A very nice thing happened yesterday. We went to a picnic! The girl told me we were going to go at the beginning of the week so I found it very difficult to concentrate on day to day things like tormenting the guineapigs, eating my toys and even begging for food! What happened was, on Saturday morning the girl woke up before me, and said "we are off to a picnic today belle!" I told her that of course I knew but was she really sure she wanted to get up already? She told me that she was nervous. That girl gets nervous about such silly things! I told her not to worry and that I would do the talking for both of us. She said she didn't think would work but smiled anyway. I watched as the girl packed her bag just incase she forgot to pack anything important. Of course she did forget something. I kept asking her to pack me some yogurts. I really like them you see, sometimes lets me to lick out the pots. I even got one out of the fridge for her but all she said was "Belle what are you doing with that?" She sounded a little angry if I'm quite honest with you. We got off the train and saw some people waiting for the picnic. I knew some of the already so I said hello to them first of all. I was so pleased because the remembered me too! These people are great you know? They smile at you as soon as they see you and make you feel really special and welcome. That is so nice, especially when you are 8 months old and going through big changes in your life. We went to a park and met another dog. It was a bit jealous because it wasn't allowed to join in with the picnic and that is enough to make anyone jealous. But do you know what it did instead? It caught a squirrel! I just know I would be in so much trouble if I did that! All of a sudden, out of nowhere, my friends the pigeons arrived! And all of a sudden I realised that the girl didn't have a hold of my lead and I was running around trying to talk to them. I think that the girl decided that was a good idea because she started running around too! But instead of catching the pigeons she caught me! Now I did something that I'm not very proud about, and I think I should really apologise for it. I bit someone's nose! I really didn't mean too because he was so nice. We were playing and it was such a good game as well. But you must know how it is when you get excited? Sometimes noses just get bitten. Later on we went to a Pub and someone recognised me and asked if I was the famous belle! Well of course I am. But it made me proud because sometimes I forget about that little bit of fame. On the train home me and the girl were talking. We both agreed that seeing as how things were changing in both of our life's it was a relief to be with such friendly people. She really needn't worry though. Things aren't changing in her life as much as in mine. She doesn't have a new collar. Love and extra kisses, Belle _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AMEBIX13 at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 02:09:50 2001 From: AMEBIX13 at xxx.com (AMEBIX13 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:09:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: having learned my lesson, I never left an impression on anyone Message-ID: <8f.ffb6302.28d6a75e@aol.com> Hello everyone, I am new to the list and recently got out of the nursery so I figured that I would introduce myself to everyone. First things first, my name is Sean and I am from Maryland. I attend University and study anthropology. I am fairly young (20) but feel fairly old most of the time. I think I might be cursed, but am not quite sure yet...I'll give it more time before I make a final decision on the matter. I am very gentle, although most people that I have met lately don't appreciate it. (with a few notable exceptions) I am really quite atypical and I enjoy it very much. I am quite impressed with this list, despite my short period of time on it, I have already made one very lovely friend as a result. I can only imagine what will result from actually being able to post, the mere thought of it brings a huge grin to my face. This weekend was most interesting, both wonderful and horrible at points, and oddly enough the part that I truly expected to be great, made me quite the sad young man when all was said and done. I must have been quite a sight driving out of Baltimore last night at 4am with tears streaming down my face while singing along to a mix tape, that I appropriately titled "songs to cry to." It is amazing what being ignored by someone who you are fond of can do. Well, at least I can appreciate the humor in the situation. Well everyone, I will cease boring you with the minutiae of the past weekends events. I would very much like to converse further with others on the list, so if I seem in the least bit appealing please do not hesitate to write me, I have tons to say. Goodnight and sweet dreams. Love, Sean +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helen at xxx.au Mon Sep 17 02:32:49 2001 From: helen at xxx.au (Helen McLean) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:32:49 +0800 Subject: Sinister: well the drums rolled off in my forehead Message-ID: <003801c13f18$a9393c30$420aa8c0@study> first things first, i suppose i am one of those people whom we like to call lurkers on this list, having been on it for more than a couple of years and one of those who can count the times they have posted on one hand. so hello everybody. The recent posts have been a reminder of how great this list can be and what a community it is and for that I am thankful to be on it. For me, living in one of the most isolated cities in the world, the effect this tragedy has had on me is mindblowing, and so as such I can only sympathise with the many of you who have had a much more personal involvement in all this, as much as I am able. I hope you are all okay. A friend across the ocean wrote to me and said 'its amazing how world calamities can make our own little worlds unbearable'. indeed. Something that has made me smile is talking to a girl I know who lives down the road from the mosque in my city, who has spent an evening or so cleaning fresh graffiti off the walls of the mosque with some of her friends, all being so disgusted with it that they decided to do something about it. These things affect even my sleepy township, but there are always good people around too. * * * * * * * * * The bit with the content I suppose: lately i was driving in my car with a friend of mine and i popped in a tape of B&S, the green album if you must know, and she sat there listening, and she remarked to me "you know i haven't really listened to these guys in ages and I had forgotton about how good they actually are". I smiled, for I hadn't forgotton see, though I started listening to the music properly then, like i was listening for the first time in ages as well (which caused some havoc on the roads as my concentration lapsed) and I started thinking, which is probably a dangerous pastime, for me in any case. But I was thinking about it right, as we were driving along, and started wondering how other people interpreted this music and associated with it. And I thought about music that I associated with, and how so much of it has a well, for lack of better words, a sense of place i suppose. Songs that remind you, or are descriptive of places. Where I live is summed up by alot of songs, I was reminded of this by The Triffids song "too hot to think, too hot to move" (or is it 'too hot to move, too hot to think" I forget) which I listened to the other day, and is a song about summer in the city where I live in Australia. And their great song 'wide open road' which is pretty much how country Western Australia would sound like, if it were music. There's a stretch of road that I have driven along when going to visit my Grandparents which is dead straight for about an hour. Literally, they just drew a straight line on the map between two towns when building it, so I have been told, and ploughed through salt lakes and over hills with this straight road. And there is nothing much in sight for miles. Usually no cars also. And I am reminded of this stretch of road when I hear that song. (The Triffid's - Perth band in the 80's, released on Rough Trade in England I think, but in any case it doesn't matter really). The point was, (and yes there is a point) I was wondering about Belle & Sebastian, and whether others would say that they give you a sense of Glasgow, or at least the surrounding area or even of Scotland. I mean, they name drop places quite often, some of which I am sure I will go to some day (and see the country park and maybe even hang around till after dark.) I wouldn't know really, I appreciate the music and the lyrics alot anyway, having never been to Glasgow, and I suppose the fact that there are so many fans from everywhere would show that there is something universal about all this music. But there is something about those Triffid's songs, and Sodastream, and a couple of other bands which I love because they have a certain feel which I associate with where I live. Ironically, because I often wish I could get out of where I live sometime soon. I'm also positive that if I ever went to Iceland it would look like Sigur Ros sounds, and in the 'Paradise City' the grass IS green and the girls are pretty. Right? So hidden in all my rambling was a question I suppose, which doesn't necessarily have to be answered, about songs and imagery and how they can have a sense of place. And how the majority of the music that I like has that in some form or another. Take from it what you will, even if it is purely a quizzical look. I apologise, I'm only lucid when I'm rising buses :) Take care all, ( and also take care of young Jeremy who is visiting yonder shores :) Helen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 09:03:35 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The wrong dream to have on my mind... Message-ID: <20010917080335.20506.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Hello SINISTER! First off, I have to tell you how wonderful I think you all are... especially in light of the recent tragedy. A lot of Americans are so ethnocentric that they have no clue that regular people in other countries are profoundly effected by this. They have no contacts outside their communities. I have shared some of your stories with people I know, and they were amazed. Also, even though some of you posted opinions that maybe were misinterpreted (like Adam), I find it extremely interesting and oddly soothing to really think about this from a lot of different points of view. I thank you all for the perspective you've given me, it has helped me deal with this. NOW FOR A LITTLE STORY... THE FOLLOWING IS A VERY DETAILED ACCOUNT OF MY EXPERIENCE SEEING BELLE AND SEBASTIAN ON SEPTEMBER 6TH IN LOS ANGELES...WARNING: IT IS VERY LONG!!!!!!! I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles. Three years ago I was on Sinister, and I actually had to sell my tickets I had for both New York shows (I had to move suddenly, so I couldn't afford the trip.) I have not been on the list since then, until 3 weeks ago. I was checking the website to see when the next b&s release would be, and I read that they were playing 2 shows in L.A. the following week. I FREAKED OUT! I knew the shows had to be sold out, but I was determined to get in to see them somehow. I rejoined Sinister right away, vowing that I would never EVER turn my back on it again!!!! Then, I saw a post that Tim Plumley had 2 extra tickets for the second show to sell me and I was ECSTATIC! (thanks, Tim!) They were general admission tickets, too. Probably better tickets than I would have gotten had I known about the show when the tickets went on sale! Thursday morning, the day of the show, I was at work and I got a phone call from my boyfriend, Dustin. He said he had bad news, and that he'd just gotten into a car accident. I was afraid he was hurt, but he wasn't. Then I was afraid that he couldn't go to the show with me, but he just asked if I could come pick him up (he's away at school now, going to the ArtCenter, which isn't too far from the venue) I arranged to leave work early so we could get there without any panic. I hate when I get panicked, I get all uptight and bitchy. The next obstacle was getting out of work early. I find that most art departments are fairly lax about the comings and goings of the graphic designers as long as there are no tight deadlines pending, I have only worked for this company for a little over 3 months and I hated to ask for special favors, but I HAD TO!!! They didn't have a problem with my early departure. I think I was driving them all crazy because I just kept saying "OH MY GOD!!! In __ hours, I will be seeing them!!!" and I think they were glad to get rid of me! I got to Dustin's and he was not sure if he should wear a tie. I was wearing a tie, and I told him he looks so sexy in a tie... we both went in ties. (We tend to dress up for everything! It's a compulsion!) We amazingly found our way to the venue even though neither of us can drive our way out of a paper bag (*see "car accident" from earlier that morning!) It was as if we had a homing device, always figuring out the correct turns in the unfamiliar territory! I usually have to leave at least 30 minutes early when I'm going somewhere new, or going from a different direction. We were both in high spirits, especially because it was so easy to get there. We had no problem finding Tim and his friend Garrett, and we got our tickets and stood in line talking about the show that Tim had seen the night before. I was practically bursting with excitement! Soon we were going inside!! The entire floor of seats and the pit area were for general admission ticket holders, but only those who lined up at the venue early and got wristbands were allowed into the pit. The rest of us got to choose our seats anywhere else on the floor. Dustin and I ended up toward the center, second row. I couldn't believe we were sitting there, and to think, we almost missed the show!! "People watching" at a Belle & Sebastian show is great! Usually, when I'm people watching, I try to find those who look like Belle & Sebastian fans, but being in a crowd of them was an overload! We admired lots of great hairdo's, outfits and glasses! So many cute people! We were very entertained by Jonathan Richman. It's so weird because the other designer I work with was just talking about him, and I had never heard of him before. She had made a little mini sculpture/doll/model of him for the movie 'There's Something About Mary' but they ended up not using the footage. Anyway, he was really funny and dorky and cool. At first, we didn't know what to think of him, but by the end we were totally into it. When Belle & Sebastian took the stage, everyone stood up and I just put my hands up to my mouth and I almost started crying. I couldn't believe how great they all looked and sounded! I was delighted to see that Isobel wasn't the skinny model type (surprised? um, I should listen closer to "Family Tree" !) She has such a gorgeous face and a cute body!!! She was wearing a navy and white striped shirt and had her hair pulled back. Her eyelashes are MILES long! Sarah looks so young, she has a doll face. Stuart was wearing a very cute outfit, I can't remember exactly what, but I know that he was well dressed and showing off his figure nicely. I think it was brown pants and a cream colored button down shirt with the sleeves rolled up (not like with a cigarette packet rolled up in it like Fonzie, more like Brett Anderson from Suede circa 1995. Oh wait, that's Fonzie again, isn't it!)... Stuart's so handsome. Stevie was wearing jeans and a black t-shirt and he looked adorable as well. Chris looks so cute in glasses! It was funny when Stuart made a comment about his glasses and Chris said he didn't have time to put in his contact lenses. Richard and the rest were equally as adorable and, God, they sound just like the albums, only better!!!!! But BOBBY, let me tell you, was the biggest shock to me. He's GORGEOUS. I had no idea. He had his rocker hairdo and a tight t-shirt on, and he's just adorable... his face is perfection. It was really cute, because at one point during the show, I can't remember what song it was, Isobel and Bobby were sitting off to the side, waiting to stand up and do the hand clapping, and they were saying hello to some kids in the pit. Isobel said something to Bobby and he was laughing and she looked at him with such an expression of adoration, it made me wonder if there wasn't some romance between them! So cute It was great during "Jonathan David" when Stevie took the record cover from a fan in the front row and started singing to the picture!!! When he tried to fling it back to them, he missed, or it hit them, I couldn't really tell. He and Stuart kept apologizing! After about 3 songs, Stuart was talking to the crowd. He commented on how there were some well dressed people out there. He was looking out at everyone and said something along the lines of "You, out there with the tie and what is that, a vest or something...it's great, thanks for dressing up!" Yeah, Dustin just looked at me like "is he really talking to me?" and I just laughed in amazement. Dustin said thanks and waved. Then Stuart said "and the girl next to you, she's smartly dressed as well, are you his girlfriend?" and I looked at Dustin and said "oh yeah!" and Stuart said he thought so and I said "but I'll be YOUR girlfriend!" and Stuart said "oh, I'm spoken for, but thanks!" ARRRGGGHHHH!!!! So cute!!! At that point I was feeling really elated, mixed with a feeling of insecurity, wondering how Stuart could have seen us well enough to notice our outfits!!! We both were extremely flattered. I was almost brought to tears again when they played "Fox in the Snow"... it was so PERFECT. They were going to play a cover song and Stuart said it was a band from California, at least, he thinks they were from California, he hopes so! Their version of "Creeque Alley" by the Mamas and the Papas was really great, they sounded just like them.. When the girls sang the line "in a coffee house Sebastian sat", and when the boys sang "Sebastian is off Lovin' Spoonful" they really emphasised the Sebastian part and it was really cool how perfect the song was for them to be singing! When they played "Dirty Dream Number Two" Stuart forgot to get someone from the audience up there to sing the "In a town so small..." part, so it was omitted. And when Stuart had the girl (was her name Tina?) come up onstage to sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" it was so cute, and the whole crowd was singing along loudly, and you could see it on their faces that they were pleased to get such participation! The girl got an autographed baseball. I thought that was so adorable and thoughtful! When they played "Family Tree", Isobel's voice was so whispy and beautiful, and it's one of my favorites so I was in awe, and I looked over at Dustin and he was completely entranced. I liked Isobel and Sarah trading off the lines at the end "If my family tree goes back to the Romans..." and overlapping eachother, it was so great to see them singing it. Then, the most amazing thing happened. Stuart said that they needed some dancing to break up the sleepy songs. He was asking that couple to come up onstage to dance during the next song, and Dustin and I were in denial. He couldn't possibly be talking to us AGAIN! So we just stood there smiling like idiots, and all these people in the pit were saying they'd go up, but Stuart insisted "the smartly dressed couple... you DO dance, don't you? Don't worry, it won't be a slow song..." and I just looked at Dustin and he looked at me and I said "let's go!" and he took my hand and we quickly made our way up to the front, we had already wasted enough time being oblivious to the fact that Stuart meant us! We got up onto the stage and I looked out at the crowd... I almost fainted. It was people as far as my eyes could see. I couldn't imagine how Stuart spotted us, looking into the crowd to where our seats were... I could see lots of smiling faces. Stuart showed us where to stand and then I almost fainted again, seeing him up close!!! I felt like I was watching TV, like my body was someone else's. Dustin is very shy, so I think he really was panicked, too. Someone in the crowd yelled "Jarvis!" because Dustin is very skinny. Dustin is really young and isn't very familiar with Pulp, so he looked at me and said "what?" and I said "the lead singer of Pulp is named Jarvis and he's skinny" and I saw two girls in the front row laughing, I think they thought we were pretending he didn't know! Then the music started and it was "The Wrong Girl" and we just tried to dance like we were at home rockin' out because really there was nothing else to do but rock out! I just thought to myself, "What would Ken Chu Do? (WWKCD?)" He would ROCK OUT and then have a Red Bull! I couldn't worry too much about my lack of dancing skills or the fact that not only was my favorite band amongst our flailing, but that thousands of eyes were watching us. It was SO MUCH fun! But Isobel needed to get up to the microphone and we were sort of blocking her way and so Stuart moved over a bit so we could move over. Standing up there right next to her and dancing was such a triumph!!! She's definitely one of my idols! Dustin and I looked at eachother as if to say "is this real?" and we both just started laughing! Once the song was over, I was in a hurry to get out of their limelight. I would be mortified if we had to be asked to leave the stage, and I wanted to get out of their way as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I left without getting my autographed baseball, but Dustin got one. The memory of being up there on the stage with Belle & Sebastian was enough for me! We made our way back to our seats. The boy standing next to me asked "How was it?" and I just said "OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! AMAZING!" The rest of the show was kind of a blur. We got really excited when they played "Legal Man" and there were all these shiny stars projected on the backdrop, it was really pretty! This was the best concert ever. As we left the venue, all of these people said "nice dancing" and "good job" and it made us feel like celebrities. A couple of people I used to know from the "L.A. Britpop Scene of 1993-1997 RIP" came up to us and it was great seeing them again! Dustin and I didn't talk about it at first, and then we got into the car and were saying "WHAT HAPPENED?!" and I said, "Just think, you were in a car accident this morning, and tonight you're onstage with one of your favorite bands!!! I'd say this was one of your best days!!!" and Dustin agreed. To this day, we are still coming across people out and about who ask "are you the couple that danced onstage at the Belle & Sebastian show?" and it's pretty amazing. We felt and still feel so special. It's so great that they take the time to involve the audience in the shows, I'm sure it's something anyone involved in any of their shows will never ever forget. But just in case, if anyone has photos of me and Dustin on the stage, please contact me off the list! I'd be so grateful! Sorry that I wrote SO MUCH, but personally, I like reading all of your stories in detail, so if you find it boring/self-serving I apologize! A shout out to Tim, Brier, Colin, and all of the Rachels (!viva Rachels!) And if the girl I "sold" some of my New York b&s tickets to in '98 who never paid me for them is still on the list, thanks for giving me this good "Ticket Karma!" I am fortunate, and I'm happy, hope you're happy, too... Love to you all. Rachie __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben.Apps at xxx.uk Mon Sep 17 13:02:44 2001 From: Ben.Apps at xxx.uk (Apps Ben (Mr B)) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:02:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You're just a baby, baby girl Message-ID: hi all, Hope everyone's bearing up. Amidst all the horrific and sad news of the last few days, I'm glad to report something happy. My sister had a baby girl on Friday afternoon, Alexandra. By my reckoning that makes me uncle ben :-) Hope she grows up in a world where the kind of events we've seen in the last few days are never repeated, and where whatever the reaction is, it ultimately leads to a safer, more peaceful world *I HOPE* So in the end I never made it to the Manchester picnic as I had intended :-( I hope a mad ferret time was had by all. T'ra uncle ben xxx **hope is important** - idlewild +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From india_claire at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 17:13:11 2001 From: india_claire at xxx.com (elise j. spry) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Shakin' my rattle in Seattle Message-ID: <20010917161311.93878.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> Hullo friends, old & new! Sorry for the cheesy subject, I compulsively felt the need to make it rhyme. I shook something all right, all night; but it was a tail, not a rattle. So, Seattle was one of the best weekends of my entire life. I made it out via Delta airlines (on time! massiv props!) Friday morning, got to check in to my hotel early, it's name was Ace and it was ACE. I had the most delectable scone I've ever had the pleasure of consuming at the bakery across the street, too. Shouts out to Ryan/Rinaldo, I do so wish I could have found you after the show. I was looking. Drop me a line sometime off-list. And of course to the Bremerton Posse: Jen (who is sooo beautiful, and a Sinistrine), Gloria, Donna, and the two boys who were scared of computers. :) Belle and Sebastian rocked my world. Rocked it to the ground and back up again. Jen, lucky thang, got a set list (puh-leese don't forget to send me a photocopy...I'm assembling my scrapbook & there's a gaping hole where it should be) Isobel, true to form, didn't crack a smile but once. She wasn't as small as we all thought she'd be. She looked healthy, tho. I think she's become wise to all the bum-lookers, cos she was wearing this shawl type thing wrapped around her waist, over a pair of jeans. Sarah had a lovely round doll face; but Dear Sarah, horizontal stripes aren't a good look for anyone, even those who are very pretty, talented musicians. All the boys in the band were very, very pretty...nay, beautiful. They made one's blood rise. Stuart filed out his muscle shirt quite nicely. Mick and Bobby were wild boys, and Stevie was drool-inducing. I'm sorry, I'm sure I forgot some others. Feel free to correct me on-list. Oh yeah, they sang some songs too. :) "Legal Man" was my favorite. I'll shut up now. Cuddles and kisses to all, esp. Chris (got yr last email, will read it in 2 seconds) and Sean (call me tonite. I have some complaining to do and yr such a good listener! :)) -elise __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kitsapcd at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 18:09:10 2001 From: kitsapcd at xxx.com (KitsapCD - Bremerton) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Seattle ain't bullshi**in' Message-ID: <20010917170910.29926.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Sinister, 2 posts in one week from an eternal lurker? You KNOW it's big news! First of all, I just wanted to thank everyone on the list for all the lovely thoughts throughout the last week. It's helped more than you know. And love and condolences to anyone who lost someone last week. And extra deep sympathy to Kirsten, who lost her friend Dan. I've been there, babe. Keep your head up. Secondly, I want to send big wet sloppy kisses to the mighty Belle & Sebastian for their very wonderful show in Seattle last Friday. I know it's been said before, but I think it bears repeating: that Stuart is quite the dancer, isn't he? And what a ridiculously good-looking bunch they are! Big ups to them for the moment of silence, and for their excellent version of "Turn Turn Turn". A very appropriate and tasteful tribute. And "Crosstown Traffic"?!? FANTASTIC! You all haven't lived unless you've seen Stevie rockin' a Hendrix solo on his knees. So again, big thanks to the band for a much-needed respite from the horror of last week. It was grrrreat! Oh, and Jonathon Richman is a god among men, and I feel sorry for anyone who thinks otherwise. Lastly, thanks to Rinaldo for organizing the sinister meet up. I just wished more people had shown up (yes, I'm talking to YOU, William Harris!). But it was great to finally meet some other sinisters in real life, especially the lovely Elise of beautiful Madison, WI! Don't worry, dear, the set list will be in the mail tomorrow! I just hope me & my weird friends didn't scare you off. Seriously, Seattle is awesome, and you should definitely think about relocating. We're a friendly people, really! So, all in all, I good time was had by all. Well worth the wait. I'm just sorry I didn't get to take Stuart to a Mariners game. Oh well, maybe next time. Off like a prom dress, Jen __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umets at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 17:17:54 2001 From: umets at xxx.com (ulla) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:17:54 +0300 Subject: Sinister: my dreamgig Message-ID: there have been many wonderful field reports of Belle and Sebastian gigs from fellow sinisters. big *thank you* to everyone who has put down some lines to share with all of us. really thank you! there is one gig i want to share with you now. you were all there but maybe you don't remember it because i dreamt about it tonight...it went like this. at first i saw this old shabby classroom with some paint peeling off from walls and with dusty old plants and some blurry chalk lines on blackboard and really nice old-school tables with scratchy drawings on them. then i remember thinking:" bet, it's one of those boring dreams again where i just stand here and nothing really happens." and then suddenly Belle and Sebastian were there and playing and you were all there. i don't know how i know this as i haven't met most of you but i knew it for sure that it was a special gig for sinister only. i was outrageously happy because i could finally see them alive and really close too. then i looked around and everyone were sitting on the tables , not really many people, about 130 or so but you were still there, all of you and we sang along to *oh, get me away from here..* but in a very nice way, you know, it wasn't one of those loud humming things, oh no, it was really nice and quiet so we could still hear the band and all. and it went really well so we sang another song too but i can't remember what song it was maybe it was *she's losing it* but i'm not sure. everyone were truly happy and smiling all the time and some had their eyes closed and smiling like so. and i just thought then, that this is the best concert i've ever been to and this was good too because i wouldn't of wanted to have any Limp Bizkit inside my head. thank you all for sharing it with me. hugs, ulla. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 18:36:53 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:36:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the drums march along at the clip of an I.V. drip ... like sparks from a muffler dragged down the strip Message-ID: <20010917173653.19456.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> this is about the last few days. might make sense. I don't know. on friday I met two in edinburgh and took them to west calder. we listened to some nice music on the way. in my opinion. and I drove safely. in my opinion. we got [to my] home and sat. we chatted. we telephoned another. a lovely girl. and we said silly things to her and she pretended to have nothing to say. we went back into edinburgh by train. and to a pub in the grassmarket. the one I always seem to end up in if I go out in edinburgh. no rhyme or reason. hm. there's no reason. and we had drinks and met a friend and we chatted and there was talk of some music too. and we got some chips from the castlerock fish-bar. well, WE did. HE got a single smoked sausage. I wish my accent could be as posh. soon a man with a beard and no moustache with newly FIXED [by Jesus] asthma and hernia told us our chips were not from the castlerock fish-bar at all; they were a gift from God. I just remembered: he said that hadn't taken his tablets for a week. at home another outgoing telephone call and one incoming. or more. perhaps. I forget. I might have said things that people might have not understood. this shouldn't be held against me. don't. but fun. then a picnic. all the people arrived. in dribs and drabs. but no drabs. and we walked out and sat in princes street gardens and stuff. by the fountain. near the carousel. which we never went on. I wanted to. but it slipped my mind. there was more slipping a little later. the grass was dry. we had sun. briefly. we ate food and chatted and all. a bottle of wine. for me. and I gave G.E.A. some badges and she gave out three presents from a lovely greek girl and I got to choose first and I think I got the nicest one and I could use it as part of my self-damage [not self-abuse] regime but I won't. I have a disposable lighter. and people talked about getting into norway. the hard way. and only getting a lousy t-shirt. and rob did a mean impression of fred durst. it was mean. and he did mean it. and there WAS a dog vs. squirrel incident. unevenly matched. and the dog's owner who had been looking for a cigarette earlier lifted it and laid it to rest. or something. in the undergrowth. more people arrived and it was a little chilly. breezy. so. we went up to rose street and found a pub. we sat outside and had some drinks and more chats. me. beside thelad96. outside thepub85. good company. some good jokes here and there. and there. cigarettes. some disagreements about an opposing facade. the one thing, perhaps, I'm missing. some accepted/conceded points. drinks. some talk of arms. arms. hm. somewhere. yeah. and we went inside and played the computer thing gambling machine hangman one. and won some money. and lost some. and ken was impressed with my knowledge. maybe cuz I knew steve bould won the championship with arsenal. maybe drinks. I had some very useful [a truth: useful] conversations. and didn't see an umbrella at one point. I guessed 'jaws 2' through a window and was correct. I think. some people kissed. I heard. the night finished [for me] with some stumbles [oh, I stumbled too] and some collapses [not that I recall] and some encouragement [from me?] [others did it better]. my judgement, only marginally impaired, told me it would be the Right Decision to go home. rather than elsewhere. for my own safety and for that of others. I decided this. but told no-one. and was soon alone. and then not. andrew. striding through some sliding doors. they were open. it could be said. he said 'the glasgow train!'. and there they were. I seized my charge and frog-marched him from the carriage. my hand was shaken and I was wished well. my charge was a shaken too and wished he was at home. boarding the correct train. after ascending and descending staircases. we slept. both. at once. and for too long. awoken by the delayed reaction of my insensitive senses at, of all places, fauldhouse. we were out. the lady who would check our tickets seemed genuinely upset that she couldn't have roused us before our desired destination was gone. a telephone call with reversed charged was placed and received and we were collected by my brother. at home we smoked and pretended to watch 'dark city'. elsewhere... [there will be stories. I hope. I have only had hints of goings on.]. oh. the brackets. hints given at calumn's house the following morning. hints don't convey a great deal. well. enough. I did get an idea though. I HAD FUN ON SATURDAY. I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE DID TOO. - yes. in glasgow the following day for the pernice brothers at king tut's. and there were landmarks or sites of interest highlighted by one or two for the benefit of one. or two. and wandering around glasgow. a couple of bars. and then the show. supporting were remedy. they contradicted themselves completely by having bill bailey on bass. perhaps it wasn't bill bailey. like. in real life. just a guy that looked very like him. but it was no kind of remedy. not for me. someone said they thought they seemed to want to be R.E.M.. it seemed to me like they wanted to be hobotalk. but I doubt it. that they'd. want it. things being the way they seem. ed. someone else supported. I forget. I don't have anything against middle-aged ladies. [some of my best friends are middle aged ladies]. nor do I have anything against denim jackets. or people who frequently glance to their right. or left. [I do this often]. I have nothing against big, stupid hair. [no: mine is neither]. I have nothing against people who stand directly in front of me at gigs. last night a middle-aged lady with a denim jacket and big, stupid hair who frequently glanced to her right and her left stood directly in front of me at a gig. I was annoyed. really. and I didn't want to be. to add insult to injury. the man she was with was bald and chewed incessantly and pretended to know the words to songs. needless to say I have nothing against baldness, incessant chewing or pretending to know words to songs. I enjoyed the gig all the same. despite. and even removed my hands from my pockets or from a folded arrangement to clap at appropriate intervals. oh. and to smoke. I amazed myself by not trying to tip ash into the middle-aged et cetera lady's open handbag. he [joe [john] pernice] definitely has something of elvis costello about him. maybe his voice. or face. or mannerisms. I wrote an essay on mannerism. it didn't make a lot of sense but it wouldn't be that that let me down. yes: I consider joe [john] pernice to be an attraction. a walk to the thirteenth note club. a conference. a taxi ride. a texaco. a bottle of irn-bru. a tube of pringles. a half empty flat. a dragged mattress. a conversation. a sleep. a clearance. a fruitless visit to an institution. a drive home. a lunch of melted cheese on toasted bread. a lift to the railway station. a farewell. a train. I ENJOYED MYSELF OVER THE WEEKEND. I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE DID TOO. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE ENJOYING ME. I hope everyone else enjoyed themselves. too. that's almost it. apart from the bits I missed. I think I might have included some that wouldn't have been missed. if I hadn't. but. but, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Mon Sep 17 20:33:26 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:33:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oft Listening how the hounds and horn Message-ID: <3BA65006.C66464B2@netscapeonline.co.uk> A while back, someone had been stabbed outside this place. She'd worked the case. Just another act of violence, another life wasted. 'Got plans?' He looked expectant, nervous, childlike in his ignorance and egotism. What could she tell him? Belle and Sebastian on the hi-fi; another gin and tonic; the last third of an Isla Dewar novel. Tough competition for any man. - Set in Darkness, by Ian Rankin: p.133 To be honest it wasn't easy waking up. Through in Edinburgh at around 08:45, I wandered along Princes' St. Gardens; towards the fountain, and sat drinking a can of red bull whilst perusing Sunday's Observer and Monday's Metro, the chill, bright air meeting my simmering blood as I read of Mr. President's thoroughly mis-placed and ill-advised reaction to human grief. I arrived, a bit late, down at the Dean Valley office to Mark's question: "Gordon, do you have a key?" Naw... Alex who does the reprographics was through the glass so we knocked and he let us in through a fire exit. Public holiday, you see... So, I said to the three people in the studio well, I may as well bugger off then: it's a nice day. I went in search of Thomas de Quincey's grave. It's supposed to be in the grounds of St. Cuthbert's along with, as Will tells me, the inventor of logarithms. On the latter part, I have sought the assistance of my father, who explains that logarithms are a way to transform multiplications into additions, via a series of tables. For those of you born pre-1970 (and I shouldn't imagine there are many) such calculations as we now do with pocket calculators were, in those days, done with slide rules, thanks to this man Napier. I could find neither his grave nor that of Thomas's, though I searched for over an hour through grandiose and modest slabs, panels, grottoes, carved obelisks, celtic crosses, draped stone urns, cut-columns... peering at names of brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, things that occupied the lives of those interned, or died of, at any time between about 1742 and 1896... the wind whipped in the sun's vortex through trees, dappling in dynamic chiaroscuro the carved skulls and stone leaves: ...here was the secret of happiness, about which philosophers had disputed for so many ages, at once discovered: happiness might now be bought for a penny, and carried in the waistcoat pocket: portable ecstasies might be corked up in a pint bottle....in the character of l'Allegro: even then, he speaks and thinks as becomes Il Penseroso -de Quincey So I sat in the park; just where the picnic had been, reading. Not a cloud in the sky and sunshine! Warm, sweet, Indian summer sunshine [Rob :)]. I toyed with 'doing things', like galleries; going to see the Royal Yacht Britannia down in Leith but figured: this is 'time out'. Spend it 'out'. Relax... And so I did. Later... YO! Below has manga cartoons projected big as Tintorettos on the whitewashed plasterboard; each rapid frame some studied stereotypical detail, strangely touching: even in silence the eyes give away the baddies until a tree-top view blurs the moral compass. I sip an 'open sesame'. Topped with cinnamon, it contains: amaretto; baileys; brandy; triple sec; rice spirit; cream. The table-top ash-tray is inset and lit from underneath by a low voltage halogen, and there is a dispenser which proffers beer at the touch of a red button. Fashionistas enter. Train home. The table is rapidly filled by staff of a bank: which is strange, for a bank holiday but, whatever... A young, new employee sucks major ass. He sits opposite a beautiful colleague, and it's only after she disembarks, at Stirling, that him and the older, senior, executive go all locker-room over her. It disgusts me totally. The duplicity; the politics: they make me feel sick and angry. I write this so to stave off cynicism. people who 'fit' people who 'don't fit' common denominator? people. I am more guilty than some, and less guilty than some others, but as some placard reported from Central Park said: 'An eye for an eye is a whole world blind' Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Mon Sep 17 21:02:05 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:02:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: [shout] a fwd from an afghan friend Message-ID: <200109172002.f8HK25g06694@mail.redbricks.org.uk> this was forwarded to a list i am on. it might bore some of you to read more about the attack on the WTC, but i think it might interest even more of you, judging from the amount of comments there have already been. i wanted to add my words to everyone else's on the day, but felt tongue tied and unable. Instead i give you an intelligently written, but frightening scenario that could result from what has happened. antony > > The following was sent to me by my friend Tamim > Ansary. Tamim is > an > Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most > brilliant people > I > know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he > talks, I listen. > Here is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we > are in. > -Gary T. > > > Dear Gary and whoever else is on this email thread: > > I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing > Afghanistan back to the > Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, > allowed that this > would > mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing > to do with this > atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept > collateral damage. What > else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit > discussing > whether we "have the belly to do what must be done." > > And I thought about the issues being raised especially > hard because I > am > from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for > 35 years I've > never lost track of what's going on there. So I want > to tell anyone > who > will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing. > > I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin > Laden. There is no > doubt in my mind that these people were responsible > for the atrocity > in > New York. I agree that something must be done about > those monsters. > > But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. > They're not even > the > government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of > ignorant > psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin > Laden is a political > criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think > Nazis. When you > think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the > people of > Afghanistan" think "the Jews in the concentration > camps." It's not > only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with > this atrocity. They > were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would > exult if > someone > would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear > out the rats nest > of > international thugs holed up in their country. > > Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow > the Taliban? The > answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, > incapacitated, suffering. > A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that > there are 500,000 > disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no > economy, no food. > There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been > burying these > widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with > land mines, > the > farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a > few of the > reasons > why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban. > > We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan > back to the Stone > Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took > care of it > already. > Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. > Level their > houses? > Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. > Eradicate their > hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut > them off from > medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already > did all that. > New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. > Would they at > least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's > Afghanistan, only the > Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. > They'd slip > away > and hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those > disabled orphans, > they > don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. > But flying over > Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike > against the > criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it > would only be > making > common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again > the people they've > been raping all this time > > So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me > now speak with > true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden > is to go in > there > with ground troops. When people speak of "having the > belly to do what > needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having > the belly to > kill > as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any > moral qualms > about > killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of > the sand. What's > actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just > because some > Americans would die fighting their way through > Afghanistan to Bin > Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. > Because to get any > troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through > Pakistan. Would they > let > us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to > be first. Will > other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm > going. We're > flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. > > And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's > exactly what he > wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and > statements. It's > all right there. He really believes Islam would beat > the west. It > might > seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the > world into > Islam > and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west > wreaks a > holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with > nothing left to > lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of > view. He's > probably > wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that > would mean, but > the > war would last for years and millions would die, not > just theirs but > ours. Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. > Anyone else? > > Tamim Ansary > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Sep 17 21:39:59 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:39:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I woke up and you were gone Message-ID: <20010917203959.63742.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> I estimate I travelled about 1300 miles at the weekend. The majority of them in the air so that was OK. Ostensibly my trip was all about visiting a friend in Greenock but I somehow ended up at a picnic in Edinburgh. How strange. Details are fuzzy and half remembered but... There was grass and trees and nice people like gordon, jeremy, will, rich, gail, rachel & bellethedog, carey & 96 & andy & ken & james... Rich said I did a Fred Durst impression. Lordy. A pub was visited. Drink was drunk and chocolate eaten. Architecture was alternately admired and slated. A cute dog was more affectionate towards me than I deserved. Alas I had to jump on the train back to Glasgow and meet said friend. More drink was drunk elsewhere. All seemed well for a while after a scary and depressing week. Photos will follow - including the epic Ken v. the Wasp sequence. Probably at the weekend - laziness permitting. So very tired. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Mon Sep 17 22:34:24 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Whistle Past The Graveyard Message-ID: <20010917213424.61731.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> ALL THE LEAVES ARE BROWN Reading the list, I have just seen a couple of on-list reports of B&S in California. I think the reports were rather good, though I share the geezer Miller's view of the tour. GOIN' ROUND THE HOSPITAL I don't share my editor's view of the geezer Jonathan Richman - and you know what that means. SHE BANGS THE DRUMS I do share the lass Honey's view of the recent catastrophe. TO LIVE OUTSIDE THE LAW, YOU MUST BE HONEST Still another view, this time mine: our system of law is meant to have to do with 'justice', not 'vengeance'. I know that The Genealogy of Morals went some way (historically) towards deconstructing that opposition: but that is not supposed to be the self-understanding of 'Western society'. To venture into an action of wanton destruction as a response to wanton destruction is the kind of thing for which 'the West' - with all its contradictory, half-realized legacy from the Enlightenment - jails people. To slaughter more innocents is vengeful response to the death of innocents, but not a just one. But the United States has shown scant respect for 'international law', in its various forms, over the last two decades - and probably a good deal more - in any case; which makes the invocation of NATO clauses a blue herring. And the leader of the US will decide, whenever he likes, whether 'war' has been declared on the US: but the many acts of aggression which have been perpetrated by the US and its pals have not been accompanied by the 'dignity' of a declaration of war. If I am not mistaken, further large-scale acts of violence will produce... further large-scale acts of violence. A PORT IN EVERY GIRL I am told that there are good golf courses in the East End of Glasgow. I believe that some of them even come with bars of their own. I enjoyed the lad Gillanders' post about events in Scotland. He looks to me like a rival to the lad 96. Where is 96 to defend his crown, I mean, croon? LOVE HIM DO I have lately had cause to delve in and out of seven Lloyd Cole albums. I can now tell you that the result is that LC *really is* ace - it wasn't just a figment of my polemical imagination. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From explodinboy at xxx.com Tue Sep 18 09:21:37 2001 From: explodinboy at xxx.com (tim plumley) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The wrong dream to have on my mind... In-Reply-To: <20010917080335.20506.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010918082137.10909.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> hey sinister, I have been meaning to share my Belle and Sebastian experience as Rachel did but then all this nightmare began (BTW Rachel, I'm so glad that I sold my tickets to you, a true fan who had the time of her life.) Anyways as Rachel said I went to both nights in LA and was mezmerized at how great they were, the second night even topped the first which i didn't think was possible. There have already been many reviews of the shows so I won't focus on that but it was what happened after the show that was amazing. After the show my friend Garrett and I were going to get food and pick up a friend of his that lives right near the Wiltern. It turns out he wasn't there and we drove behind the Wiltern where the bands rowdees were loading their stuff. So i asked my friend if he wanted to wait with the group of people that was there and he asked if i had anything for them to sign...turned out i had the Tigermilk and Sinister booklets in my car (fate). So we waited from about 11 till 12 and then Sarah came out, we went over to her and she signed stuff and then got in a taxi and left, next was Mick, then Bob, Chris, Stevie, and then lastly was Stuart. Isobel somehow managed to slip out right after the show, which bummed me out. I think she was drunk and wanted to go drink more. Anyways we took pictures with them and chatted and they signed everyones stuff and they were all so incredibly nice and humble. While Stuart was signing stuff the manager (i think) came over and was going to take him away to the Bounty Bar but he said that since we waited so long that he would finish up and then walk over there. He invited us all to come along and most went. We walked right next to him and talked the whole time about things such as what they have been doing in Cali, where they are going, and a bunch of different things. Then when we got there they were all drinking and socializing at different tables. Isobel was there in the corner looking cute as ever. Stuart was going to buy drinks but i told him i wanted to buy him one and so i got him a Jack and Coke. He was going to sit with us but he got bombarded with fans and questions. It was already 1:20 a.m. when we got there and then last call came and then the bar closed and we all shuffled out to the street. Before it closed however i got Isobel to sign my album and then i took a picture with her. Some guy was talking to her and then she gave him the digits when he was leaving (lucky bastard). As a result of this she is my new unattainable crush. Stuart hung around a bit and then cut out and said he was tired and they had to head to San Francisco the next day. I can't stress how nice a group of people B&S are. Fortuanately I will always have the memories because it turns out my film was ruined and my pictures didn't develop. -tim --- Rachel wrote: > Hello SINISTER! > First off, I have to tell you how wonderful I think > you all are... especially in light of the > recent tragedy. A lot of Americans are so > ethnocentric that they have no clue that regular > people > in other countries are profoundly effected by this. > They have no contacts outside their > communities. I have shared some of your stories with > people I know, and they were amazed. Also, > even though some of you posted opinions that maybe > were misinterpreted (like Adam), I find it > extremely interesting and oddly soothing to really > think about this from a lot of different points > of view. I thank you all for the perspective you've > given me, it has helped me deal with this. > > NOW FOR A LITTLE STORY... THE FOLLOWING IS A VERY > DETAILED ACCOUNT OF MY EXPERIENCE SEEING BELLE > AND SEBASTIAN ON SEPTEMBER 6TH IN LOS > ANGELES...WARNING: IT IS VERY LONG!!!!!!! > > I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles. Three years > ago I was on Sinister, and I actually had to > sell my tickets I had for both New York shows (I had > to move suddenly, so I couldn't afford the > trip.) I have not been on the list since then, until > 3 weeks ago. I was checking the website to > see when the next b&s release would be, and I read > that they were playing 2 shows in L.A. the > following week. I FREAKED OUT! I knew the shows had > to be sold out, but I was determined to get in > to see them somehow. I rejoined Sinister right away, > vowing that I would never EVER turn my back > on it again!!!! > > Then, I saw a post that Tim Plumley had 2 extra > tickets for the second show to sell me and I was > ECSTATIC! (thanks, Tim!) They were general admission > tickets, too. Probably better tickets than I > would have gotten had I known about the show when > the tickets went on sale! > > Thursday morning, the day of the show, I was at work > and I got a phone call from my boyfriend, > Dustin. He said he had bad news, and that he'd just > gotten into a car accident. I was afraid he > was hurt, but he wasn't. Then I was afraid that he > couldn't go to the show with me, but he just > asked if I could come pick him up (he's away at > school now, going to the ArtCenter, which isn't > too far from the venue) I arranged to leave work > early so we could get there without any panic. I > hate when I get panicked, I get all uptight and > bitchy. The next obstacle was getting out of work > early. I find that most art departments are fairly > lax about the comings and goings of the > graphic designers as long as there are no tight > deadlines pending, I have only worked for this > company for a little over 3 months and I hated to > ask for special favors, but I HAD TO!!! They > didn't have a problem with my early departure. I > think I was driving them all crazy because I just > kept saying "OH MY GOD!!! In __ hours, I will be > seeing them!!!" and I think they were glad to get > rid of me! > > I got to Dustin's and he was not sure if he should > wear a tie. I was wearing a tie, and I told him > he looks so sexy in a tie... we both went in ties. > (We tend to dress up for everything! It's a > compulsion!) We amazingly found our way to the venue > even though neither of us can drive our way > out of a paper bag (*see "car accident" from earlier > that morning!) It was as if we had a homing > device, always figuring out the correct turns in the > unfamiliar territory! I usually have to leave > at least 30 minutes early when I'm going somewhere > new, or going from a different direction. We > were both in high spirits, especially because it was > so easy to get there. > > We had no problem finding Tim and his friend > Garrett, and we got our tickets and stood in line > talking about the show that Tim had seen the night > before. I was practically bursting with > excitement! Soon we were going inside!! The entire > floor of seats and the pit area were for > general admission ticket holders, but only those who > lined up at the venue early and got > wristbands were allowed into the pit. The rest of us > got to choose our seats anywhere else on the > floor. Dustin and I ended up toward the center, > second row. I couldn't believe we were sitting > there, and to think, we almost missed the show!! > > "People watching" at a Belle & Sebastian show is > great! Usually, when I'm people watching, I try > to find those who look like Belle & Sebastian fans, > but being in a crowd of them was an overload! > We admired lots of great hairdo's, outfits and > glasses! So many cute people! We were very > entertained by Jonathan Richman. It's so weird > because the other designer I work with was just > talking about him, and I had never heard of him > before. She had made a little mini > sculpture/doll/model of him for the movie 'There's > Something About Mary' but they ended up not > using the footage. Anyway, he was really funny and > dorky and cool. At first, we didn't know what > to think of him, but by the end we were totally into > it. > > When Belle & Sebastian took the stage, everyone > stood up and I just put my hands up to my mouth > and I almost started crying. I couldn't believe how > great they all looked and sounded! I was > delighted to see that Isobel wasn't the skinny model > type (surprised? um, I should listen closer > to "Family Tree" !) She has such a gorgeous face and > a cute body!!! She was wearing a navy and > white striped shirt and had her hair pulled back. > Her eyelashes are MILES long! Sarah looks so > young, she has a doll face. Stuart was wearing a > very cute outfit, I can't remember exactly what, > but I know that he was well dressed and showing off > his figure nicely. I think it was brown pants > and a cream colored button down shirt with the > sleeves rolled up (not like with a cigarette packet > rolled up in it like Fonzie, more like Brett > Anderson from Suede circa 1995. Oh wait, that's > Fonzie again, isn't it!)... Stuart's so handsome. > Stevie was wearing jeans and a black t-shirt and > he looked adorable as well. Chris looks so cute in > glasses! It was funny when Stuart made a > comment about his glasses and Chris said he didn't > have time to put in his contact lenses. Richard > and the rest were equally as adorable and, God, they > sound just like the albums, only better!!!!! > But BOBBY, let me tell you, was the biggest shock to > me. He's GORGEOUS. I had no idea. He had his > rocker hairdo and a tight t-shirt on, and he's just > adorable... his face is perfection. It was > really cute, because at one point during the show, I > can't remember what song it was, Isobel and > Bobby were sitting off to the side, waiting to stand > up and do the hand clapping, and they were > saying hello to some kids in the pit. Isobel said > something to Bobby and he was laughing and she > looked at him with such an expression of adoration, > it made me wonder if there wasn't some romance > between them! So cute > > It was great during "Jonathan David" when Stevie > took the record cover from a fan in the front row > and started singing to the picture!!! When he tried > to fling it back to them, he missed, or it hit > them, I couldn't really tell. He and Stuart kept > apologizing! > > After about 3 songs, Stuart was talking to the > crowd. He commented on how there were some well > dressed people out there. He was looking out at > everyone and said something along the lines of > "You, out there with the tie and what is that, a > vest or something...it's great, thanks for > dressing up!" Yeah, Dustin just looked at me like > "is he really talking to me?" and I just laughed > in amazement. Dustin said thanks and waved. Then > Stuart said "and the girl next to you, she's > smartly dressed as well, are you his girlfriend?" > and I looked at Dustin and said "oh yeah!" and > Stuart said he thought so and I said "but I'll be > YOUR girlfriend!" and Stuart said "oh, I'm > spoken for, but thanks!" ARRRGGGHHHH!!!! So cute!!! > At that point I was feeling really elated, > mixed with a feeling of insecurity, wondering how > Stuart could have seen us well enough to notice > our outfits!!! We both were extremely flattered. > > I was almost brought to tears again when they played > "Fox in the Snow"... it was so PERFECT. They > were going to play a cover song and Stuart said it > was a band from California, at least, he thinks > they were from California, he hopes so! Their > version of "Creeque Alley" by the Mamas and the > Papas was really great, they sounded just like > them.. When the girls sang the line "in a coffee > house Sebastian sat", and when the boys sang > "Sebastian is off Lovin' Spoonful" they really > emphasised the Sebastian part and it was really cool > how perfect the song was for them to be > singing! When they played "Dirty Dream Number Two" > Stuart forgot to get someone from the audience > up there to sing the "In a town so small..." part, > so it was omitted. And when Stuart had the girl > (was her name Tina?) come up onstage to sing "Take > Me Out to the Ballgame" it was so cute, and the > whole crowd was singing along loudly, and you could > see it on their faces that they were pleased > to get such participation! The girl got an > autographed === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casparium at xxx.uk Tue Sep 18 20:37:56 2001 From: casparium at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kirsty?=) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:37:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: is that a question I see?? Message-ID: <20010918193756.31397.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> hey kids, I have a B&S related question to all those peeps who happen, somehow, to know the intimate ins and outs of their favourite band... right, does anyone know whether or not b&S are flying home (by home i mean to Britain) before they are playing in Brazil?? It's just that hopefully i shall get to go see the reindeer section this Sunday in Norwich. When i first found out that they were playing near me i ripped the poster from the wall it was pinned on and then walked around town with a huge grin on my face (yup, people did stop and stare) because i thought it would be like ipswich all over again (in the sense that at least some of my favourite popstars will be less than a meter from me). An hour later reality pliped its little way into my head as i realised they probebly wouldn't be in the country let alone with the reindeer section. I was still excited at this point, but less so... obviously. oh. and whislst i'm on the ball, is anybody on this fine list planning to attend?? probably not but i live in hope of maybe meeting another sinistereean, rather than just spying on them, and not daring to approach them. Anyway, sorry about the jumbled sentances and the severe lack of any interesting stories... i'm working on it ribenas, hugs and a big fat farewell Kirsty ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeremytweddle at xxx.net Tue Sep 18 17:40:43 2001 From: jeremytweddle at xxx.net (Breams) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:40:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: have you heard the one about the australian falling down in edinburgh? Message-ID: <3ba77ab1.f269.0@crosswinds.net> 'lo you lot well, it's been a little while, but i figure now is the time to start posting again, being on the other side of the world and all. as people have probably already told you, the picnic went well, and i got drunk. i seem to remember something about falling on my face in multiple places, and i think other attendees will be able to confirm for me. :) i guess there's not a lot to say about my UK jaunt so far. point #1 stayed with maddie for a memorable couple of nights. smoked lots of duty free cigarettes (2 dollars!!! christ!!!) and got a little pissed and *slept* with maddie and james. point #2 stayed with rich for a few more memorable (actually i wish i could remember) nights. we chatted up a religious night-stalker with a penchant for young boys (who had a beard and no moustache! oooh the evil). he told us that god was in our hearts but couldn't prove it to us. the best thing he could say was that he was in everyones' hearts but not in those who weren't christian. it made me wonder whether there was anything in my heart other than a few ventricles and some large muscles. i highly doubt that there is any small deities in my ventricles, but i may be surprised. had a picnic. went to a pub. got drunk. fell over. ken and i won some money thanks to a friendly bouncer (1 into 15!). had my first vodka and red bull. downed a pint in 6.5 seconds. fell over. point #3 currently in the middle of a memorable night with the glasgow massive. they're not really that big but they're certainly substantial. pity none of them would get off their arses to see a pernice bros gig last night! (props to rich for not being a lame prat, unlike the rest of you!) had a lovely night at the 13th note with an odd man named dave who just went on and on about leonard cohen and sweetie's swearing. went to calumn's and drank some more. played some ramshackle lucksmiths and pinefox. point #4 there has to be more of you in this part of the world who haven't seen me blind drunk yet. i'm still taking orders for visits. :) i'll leave you to it then. ta ra jeremy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fezzywig at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 01:37:35 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:37:35 Subject: Sinister: concert dreams Message-ID: hello. On the subject of Concert Dreams, I've been having dreams for the last couple of months where, I am either a new member of a band, watching the band or am friends with the band. Maybe this is some sort of sick sycophantic syndrome I have but, I kind of like them. Last night I dreamt I was on stage with Radiohead. I wasn't playing but I was just sitting on the edge of the stage with a couple of friends. I was sitting to the left of Thom but for some reason Ed O'brian was on his left side instead of Jonny. But it was kind of weird because I was sitting there with some friends and we're talking about things like school, all while there are thousands of people in front of us, then another friend came up with a Bag of groceries, including some smoked fish. Weird. The other day I had a dream my friend Judy (who did the speaking part of Dirty Dream #2 in Seattle) was in this side project or something that Belle and Sebastian had to with. She played bass. The thing was that there was a bunch of recordings that I listened to, songs that in real life I've never heard before, I was impressed with myself. Coming up with cool songs in my dreams...not quite "Yesterday" but still great songs. Too bad I can't play them now that I'm awake. I've also dreamt that I'm either in Weezer or am at their concert. The last weezer dream I had was when I had to fill in for Brian Bell....god I really am crazy....or just want to desperately play in a band. It usually has to do with bands I've seen so maybe I'll have a great Belle and Sebastian dream....goodnight All!   tim   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 04:22:21 2001 From: CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com (CrnflkgrlO at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:22:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: So I'm not a professional photographer.....but the Belle and Sebastian pictures are in!! Message-ID: So the pictures are a bit fuzzy and pale, but considering the fact that the most attractive (and they have just a bit of talent as well) band in the world completely lacks pictures on the web, they'll do. (Isobel's bum is included, as promised) http://homepage.mac.com/crnflkgrlo/PhotoAlbum.html -Rachel Cornflake +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk Wed Sep 19 12:42:36 2001 From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:42:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "Not flammable" is not a challenge... Message-ID: <579C0CAF497CD511AD4D00508BBD7AAC058F47@PIKACHU> Well it's Wednesday, and I'm still recovering from the weekend. Which can only be a good sign. There was a picnic in Manchester you know. Some of you may remember it. Some of you probably can't remember it. Belle wasn't there, the only dogs present were ones we wished weren't present, with slobbery sticks in their mouths. Cay is now officially the best picnic mummy in the world E!V!E!R!. Partly because, against all the odds, she managed to organise a picnic in Manchester where it didn't rain. In fact, it was sunny. Which was nice. Admittedly we were only outside for about 2 hours and spent the rest of the time in the pub, but never mind. One listee told a bouncer "I'm not gay, but..." before kissing him. Another listee stood on the table in the pub to sing "The State I Am In", and then fell off. And then Ken drove us back over the Pennines to a tuneful rendition of Legal Man. In other news, I have heard from a trustworthy source that while B&S have been in America, they visited Las Vegas. And while they were there, two members of the band got married! Anybody else heard this? Anyone spot any rings on fingers at the gigs? Any details welcomed! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tracy at xxx.net Wed Sep 19 15:18:18 2001 From: tracy at xxx.net (Tracy Ebberts) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:18:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: So I'm not a professional photographer.....but the Belle and Sebastian pictures are in!! References: Message-ID: <000401c14116$1f7c2480$0201a8c0@morcant.org> how did you get photos? i'm pea green.... i tried and tried at seattle, but had the camera cleared TWICE and thus, was duly reprimanded... :( tracy who was at seattle and saw a wee bit of something quite loverly... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: Sinister: So I'm not a professional photographer.....but the Belle and Sebastian pictures are in!! > So the pictures are a bit fuzzy and pale, but considering the fact that the > most attractive (and they have just a bit of talent as well) band in the > world completely lacks pictures on the web, they'll do. (Isobel's bum is > included, as promised) > > http://homepage.mac.com/crnflkgrlo/PhotoAlbum.html > > -Rachel Cornflake > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popsingersfear at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 16:43:50 2001 From: popsingersfear at xxx.com (Sweetie Something) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:43:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If I Close my eyes Message-ID: sinister having just had the most eventful and drunken week of my entire life it all started on tuesday actually before that, but thats just not important or interesting at all on tuesday night i went to see a band called Sizer Barker its was my first ever time on a guestlist i interveiwed the band, and took lots of photos i went with a lovely irish boy that i met at the North Berwick beach picnic. i got rather drunk. i lost my notepad with said interveiw. but i got it back. but i cant read it very well. oops on wednesday morning they came and they went and everything else went too i cried alot. that night i stayed. my last night at home me and my computer and my hifi. and 2 cds. a folk compilation and The Divine Comedy- Promenade because Don't Look Down would be our parting song the next day in the end it didnt work out as well or nice i had planned but oh well. i didnt sleep very well that night. a boy phoned me because i was lonely. Thank You. Thursday night my first night in the new house i went to the pub with some friends i didnt drink much i wasnt very well. i got home and was restless. i went for a walk it took me 3 tries but at 2.15 am i walked i walked for 3 miles to my home. and then i walked the 3 miles back. it was dark and i was scared and sad, but i hd to do it and now i am ok on friday i had my hair shaved and dyed black then i went to the pub for my friends birthday lots things happened. Lots. i dont remember much of it but that i got home, i know that becuase thats where i woke up. on saturday i went to edinburgh i got to the train station and met some sinister sorts we went to the picnic where we witnessed The Chu snog a wasp then to the pub andrew told some wonderful stories a woman in the toilets asked a girl to hand her toilet paper then said 'I hate drip drying' it was a bit cold then we went to glasgow and to harrys and then to calumns sunday back to harrys to mope for a while and play snakes and ladders and learn how to role a dice properly on sunday evening i went home monday first day at college went very well, everyone is super and fab and it's not scary at all on monday at 8pm i got a phonecall 2 hours later i was back in glasgow oh those glasgow kids tuesday morning straight to college from glasgow tuesday night i finished sorting out my cds. coz its not boring. wednesday first full day at college a bit boring what with classes being 2 hours long but on the whole not bad it could be worse it could be school finally got my paws on a certain NME reveiw. the new house doesnt feel strange anymore. well maybe a bit but home feels like a distant dream. like a holiday from many years ago. it was a good holiday though. Counting Flowers On The Wall Sweetie xox _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 16:45:27 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:45:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: go, go, go, go, go ... you restless soul, you're gonna find it Message-ID: <20010919154527.70823.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> last night I slept with a penguin. ordinarily I sleep with a polar bear. I was a little out of it. yet. in bed. and I almost couldn't remember why they wouldn't eat one another. or why one wouldn't eat the other. the other. in glasgow today. 'this morning'. some might say. but it was very definitely after noon. an open day at glasgow university? and kids. everywhere. swamping byres road. crammed into the underground. all of them whispering. or shouting. some looked scared. most looked just the same. my 'the boy with the arab strap' disc is black. for the most part. I was lulled to sleep by an angelic voice on monday evening. AngeliC, I tell you. hm. yes. and I wonder why I've never tried to make music. no. I don't wonder why. it's a try. I think I'd like it. but I have no try. I haven't been out/drinking for five nights in a row for a long time. I haven't worn the same clothes for three days straight for a long time. but it's been fun. very much. I find it had to express: grateful. perhaps I shouldn't worry about it. there may be more nights to come. but I require a fresh outfit and a good scrub. I feel like I'm nineteen again. I found out that I'm going to be in third year after all. which is a relief. that isn't a question. look at the punctuation. I'm relieved. or I will be in a minute. and now for some refreshing and. what else? more trains. I don't mind trains. it evens out. I like riding on them. I don't like having them pass. someone said that it was the saddest sound. someone had said it. but maybe someone else had said it. maybe I'll find out. go, richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 21:43:23 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:43:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Subject Free Zone Today Message-ID: <000001c1414b$bd2118a0$5fc67ad5@oemcomputer> Hi All, Got a copy of the Benicassim radio broadcast today (muchas gracias, A****) and another opportunity to figure out the lyrics to this song. My first attempt a couple of months ago was clearly bollocks: this one is much closer with (I think) only one dodgy bit - The Season Has Arrived I need someone to take some joy in something I do You need a man who's either rich or losing a screw You know I love you, here's the irony You're going to walk away intact You think I never liked you anyway ) I think you never liked me anyway ) You like yourself & you like men To kiss your arse, expensive clothes Hey stop me there I think I'm waking up to us we're a disaster They don't want to know Because you move in circles up the brain(?) We're out to find your lies She was the wonder of my life She showed me the road And if I look like death today Then please let her know I only wanted to do harm to her (?) I only wanted her to see The beauty of the world surrounding her And when she opened up her eyes Its much too late, our chance has gone She's with a guy Who takes the prize of everything I ever showed her Taken all the fun because she's older I fed her with a spoon I made her mama smile I helped the kid survive (Lush strings break) She was the wonder of my life She showed me the road I loved her dark, her steady gaze The chapter is closed (The chapter is closed) I only wanted all the best for her The best thing was to stay away She grew up and she left the rest of us And now the understanding's gone I haven't changed, how could I? I'm pretty much the same person I cannot keep my anger Hidden any more but lucky for you You are not around my anger turns to pity and to love The season has arrived The season has arrived Princess Honey thinks that the song sounds like something from a 70's musical: I think she's being uncharitable. Almost everything that could be has been said about the WTC horror. The most affecting thing for me has been not the TV pictures of the planes crashing into the towers or those poor people jumping but the knowledge that some members of my own company are still "missing" - colleagues who wear the same uniforms, complete the same paperwork, do the same job as we do. And I struggle with the tale of the heroic self sacrifice of a fellow manager who apparently made sure all his people got on the lift on the 107th floor, told them not to worry as he'd get the next one and of course hasn't been seen since. Could I have done that? Should I in fact have done that? Loyalty to employees, or to family? Not all listees who unsubscribe post a valedictory message. So I'd like to mark the departure of Peter Miller. I'll miss his irreverence, his wit and his erudition. And the fact that he always kept the faith. Sadly for me the audience I picture in my mind on the (thankfully for you) rare occasions when I do post has shrunk considerably. Reporting Back will never be quite the same in future. Goodbye, thanks and I hope we hear from you again. Love and peace, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 23:53:32 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:53:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Rocky Mountain High (cough) Message-ID: <110.59383cb.28da7bec@aol.com> JL: Hello you gorgeous bunch of lovelies. This is Miss J Lucy and Miss Mandee May reporting back from the first ever Colorado Sinister meet-up. I've been here a fortnight and what have we been up to? Oh, you know, the usual meet up stuff... drinking and talking about YOU. The highlight for me was spotting a big, pink and blue machine flashing through a big window into the cold, Boulder night, a machine that plays Mr Wonderful, Holiday and that really, really easy Backstreet Boys one, a machine that said DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION on it! We had been on the sauce, we each had a pocketful of dollars, we were complete DDR virgins and we thought Ken Chu (note obligatory mention) would appreciate our efforts. We were soo encircled by a crowd of people who certainly seemed to appreciate our efforts. Or maybe they just appreciated our jiggling breasts. What do you think, Mandee? ************************* Well, certainly Lucy, I was attracted to the DDR machine by the Ken Chu lookalike gettin' down on that flashing lit-up dance platform (of course, the aforementioned Lookalike did not have NEARLY enough style to be a true Chu.. and also, let's give Lucy and I credit for mentioning Mr. Chu TWICE now in the same post). After seeing the Chu get down, we both agreed to find the nearest bar, down a few Red Bull & Vodkas, and stagger back to the arcade to use all this Taurine-influenced energy. The results were not alltogether disappointing. Even after a few sweaty dollar bills were digested into the token machine, our feet sore from getting our groove on, and a whole room of 14 year-olds "totally amazed" by our moves, well, we were not satisfied, my friends. As for my breasts--goddamn, I could have killed somebody. Let's just say they added some style points. I am pretty saddened by the fact that Ms. Lucy has to leave on Thursday--although I cannot blame her for wanting to leave the bosom of the Westin hotel beds, I have had a thoroughly good time showing her around Ye Ol' Homefront of Colorado. Not only did we get down to DDR for an evening, but we even went punk bowling. Back to you, Lucy-- ************************* JL: PUNK BOWLING! Did you know that Denver punks like to bowl? I didn't, but Sebastian told us it was true. We cased the joint - not a punk in sight, but the shop sold bowling balls with skulls in them! Then, we spotted a girl with black, spiky hair and more eyeliner than the average chick. Welcome to the bowling alley, Punk Number One. Before you could say "pierce my nose with a rusty safety pin", the place was teeming with punks. I always thought bowling shoes were a mod thing, but one chap had painted NOFX on his, which isn't a mod thing to do at all! The good thing about bowling is you get to bend over and show off your 'jelly'. However, punks are apparently not ready for jelly, as only one of us got chatted up and the chatter upper was... what did you call him, Mandee? ************************* Why, Lucy, I believed I called him a wanker.. he was a bit slow, though, because it took him about five minutes to register and then he muttered out a weak "Bitch" to me while walking away with his tail tucked under his legs. However, I believe my scored suffered from the pitcher of watery Coors Lite we received as a bonus--I slipped from a 109 to a 73 then to a 49. I was humbled. It was nice that we had such a crowd, though, because I could take time out inbetween frames to talk more about..well, YOU! I thought things couldn't get much better than a little bit of Punk Bowling, but after last Saturday's exhausting sweat session on the DDR machine, well, I will say that I was pleasantly surprised. If only we could have found that Pantone bag that we saw in the shop window--- ************************* JL: In Boulder, we found two Magnetic Fields related things. The fist was a bright pink bag that said PANTONE 2xx (I am not a Pantone expert, I don't remember the actual number) and Mandee and I thought it would be just wonderful to find a blue bag that said PANTONE 292. It would, wouldn't it? But the pink bag was in a display and we couldn't work out which shop in Boulder had the Pantone bags and we searched and searched in the pouring rain with no luck at all and ended up getting all wet and in need of beer. So we had beer. The second Magnetic Fields related thing, which was acquired with haste, was a book called the Bad Beginning by one Lemony Snicket. They say you should never judge a book by its cover, but I believe that Snicket books *should* be judged by their covers, because their covers are ace. I can tell, just from looking at the cover, and especially by reading what's written on the back, that Snicket pishes all over Rowling and her wizard, even though I have not actually read either book (yet). Well, I think that's about all I have to tell you, except that I must give huge props to Mandee for being such a star and looking after me for the past couple of weeks which, as you know, haven't been easy, so it's been good to have a friend. Lucy x ************************* Based upon my first sinister miniature two-week long picnic with Ms. Lucy, I have to say that sinister picnics are fantastic. I've had a brilliant time with Lucy and I hope that maybe soon enough I can crawl over to London so we can play DDR again, maybe even YOU can join in, eh? Balderdash confusion, Miss Mandee May P.S. The pictures will be developed soon, but I think they are far too inappropriate to scan into the computer. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Wed Sep 19 23:59:58 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:59:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: You don't want to read that last one. Positively scandalous. Message-ID: <14b.13a28cc.28da7d6e@aol.com> JL: Hello you gorgeous bunch of lovelies. This is Miss J Lucy and Miss Mandee May reporting back from the first ever Colorado Sinister meet-up. I've been here a fortnight and what have we been up to? Oh, you know, the usual meet up stuff... drinking and talking about YOU. The highlight for me was spotting a big, pink and blue machine flashing through a big window into the cold, Boulder night, a machine that plays Mr Wonderful, Holiday and that really, really easy Backstreet Boys one, a machine that said DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION on it! We had been on the sauce, we each had a pocketful of dollars, we were complete DDR virgins and we thought Ken Chu (note obligatory mention) would appreciate our efforts. We were soo encircled by a crowd of people who certainly seemed to appreciate our efforts. Or maybe they just appreciated our jiggling breasts. What do you think, Mandee? ************************* Well, certainly Lucy, I was attracted to the DDR machine by the Ken Chu lookalike gettin' down on that flashing lit-up dance platform (of course, the aforementioned Lookalike did not have NEARLY enough style to be a true Chu.. and also, let's give Lucy and I credit for mentioning Mr. Chu TWICE now in the same post). After seeing the Chu get down, we both agreed to find the nearest bar, down a few Red Bull & Vodkas, and stagger back to the arcade to use all this Taurine-influenced energy. The results were not alltogether disappointing. Even after a few sweaty dollar bills were digested into the token machine, our feet sore from getting our groove on, and a whole room of 14 year-olds "totally amazed" by our moves, well, we were not satisfied, my friends. As for my breasts--goddamn, I could have killed somebody. Let's just say they added some style points. I am pretty saddened by the fact that Ms. Lucy has to leave on Thursday--although I cannot blame her for wanting to leave the bosom of the Westin hotel beds, I have had a thoroughly good time showing her around Ye Ol' Homefront of Colorado. Not only did we get down to DDR for an evening, but we even went punk bowling. Back to you, Lucy-- ************************* JL: PUNK BOWLING! Did you know that Denver punks like to bowl? I didn't, but Sebastian told us it was true. We cased the joint - not a punk in sight, but the shop sold bowling balls with skulls in them! Then, we spotted a girl with black, spiky hair and more eyeliner than the average chick. Welcome to the bowling alley, Punk Number One. Before you could say "pierce my nose with a rusty safety pin", the place was teeming with punks. I always thought bowling shoes were a mod thing, but one chap had painted NOFX on his, which isn't a mod thing to do at all! The good thing about bowling is you get to bend over and show off your 'jelly'. However, punks are apparently not ready for jelly, as only one of us got chatted up and the chatter upper was... what did you call him, Mandee? ************************* Why, Lucy, I believed I called him a wanker.. he was a bit slow, though, because it took him about five minutes to register and then he muttered out a weak "Bitch" to me while walking away with his tail tucked under his legs. However, I believe my scored suffered from the pitcher of watery Coors Lite we received as a bonus--I slipped from a 109 to a 73 then to a 49. I was humbled. It was nice that we had such a crowd, though, because I could take time out inbetween frames to talk more about..well, YOU! I thought things couldn't get much better than a little bit of Punk Bowling, but after last Saturday's exhausting sweat session on the DDR machine, well, I will say that I was pleasantly surprised. If only we could have found that Pantone bag that we saw in the shop window--- ************************* JL: In Boulder, we found two Magnetic Fields related things. The fist was a bright pink bag that said PANTONE 2xx (I am not a Pantone expert, I don't remember the actual number) and Mandee and I thought it would be just wonderful to find a blue bag that said PANTONE 292. It would, wouldn't it? But the pink bag was in a display and we couldn't work out which shop in Boulder had the Pantone bags and we searched and searched in the pouring rain with no luck at all and ended up getting all wet and in need of beer. So we had beer. The second Magnetic Fields related thing, which was acquired with haste, was a book called the Bad Beginning by one Lemony Snicket. They say you should never judge a book by its cover, but I believe that Snicket books *should* be judged by their covers, because their covers are ace. I can tell, just from looking at the cover, and especially by reading what's written on the back, that Snicket pishes all over Rowling and her wizard, even though I have not actually read either book (yet). Well, I think that's about all I have to tell you, except that I must give huge props to Mandee for being such a star and looking after me for the past couple of weeks which, as you know, haven't been easy, so it's been good to have a friend. Juicy Lucy x ************************* Based upon my first sinister miniature two-week long picnic with Ms. Lucy, I have to say that sinister picnics are fantastic. I've had a brilliant time with Lucy and I hope that maybe soon enough I can crawl over to London so we can play DDR again, maybe even YOU can join in, eh? Balderdash confusion, Miss Mandee May P.S. The pictures will be developed soon, but I think they are far too inappropriate to scan into the computer. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 02:07:40 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:07:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I love my car Message-ID: <001701c14170$ed507460$e14abfac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> I love my car I admit last week I may have gone too far Driven up to Scotland by myself in my little motor car I love my wasp I love my freezing cold, I love the road that leads me straight into the pub and the road that someone fell on I wish I could say the same for you The day will come soon When I look in Glasgow and think it's Edinburgh I got a head Like a soaking sponge I filled it up After a little glug I warmly hugged miss Carey Lander I love my Cal I love my Will, my Sweetie and my Al I could even find it in my heart To love Harry Love I wish I could say the same for you The day will come soon When I go to Glasgow and never leave again I think I could say that same for Manc The day will come soon When I look on the table and see you singing... Love and Red Bull Ken ==================================== P.S.: Chords for the song...... (might be wrong) (3/4) A# F Gm F D# A# Cm A# (4/4) Gm F Dm Am Gm A# F Am A# C F C D# A# A#m F C A# A#m F C C A# A#m ==================================== P.P.S.: Thanks to everyone who made me feel very happy for a weekend on oh nine one five (2001/09/15) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 08:08:38 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:08:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i get a little warm in my heart... Message-ID: <267ECD7AD886E6045B3E886352F216E8@chinacat81.wildmail.com> i've just been out with a friend from work. we went to a boy's house....there were two of them. boys, that is. the girl's name is corin, and the boys are her friends. she said they would be on the "patio," which i had imagined to be a slab of concrete decorated with plastic furniture and potted plants. instead, it was a little building full of nice furniture and expensive-looking electronic devices. it's in the backyard, so maybe that makes it a patio....or something. the boys were funny. they kept saying silly things and giggling, watching me try to hide under the table in embarrassment. they were listening to rap music and one of them was positively dripping with gold jewelry and he let me try on a three-karat diamond ring and, for once in my life, i actually did feel a bit like j-lo. i didn't much like the look of it there on my thumb. i gave it to corin and she took another one and held them up like earrings and pretended to be a princess and batted her eyelashes, and she really did look nice that way because she is a diamond sort of girl. i used to make rings out of the little green paper twisty ties you get for produce bags at the grocery store. corin and i played with diamonds. i felt underdressed. so i came home and on the way i thought and smoked and kept the window rolled down even though it was raining. the rain looked something like snow tonight, and i decided i would like nothing more than to stay in hiding for a few months and come out when everything is covered in a white blanket of snow and all that's on television is "it's a wonderful life" and i can lie on my back and squint at the lights on the tree so that the beams shoot out in every direction. i am not a fan of holidays at all. especially christmas because it means weeks of hell at work...stressed-out shoppers, lame glittery snowflakes hanging everywhere, and everyone's favorite, the RuPaul ho- ho holiday album. but right now, it just sounds...nice. xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 09:40:54 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:40:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: New Direction? ..or..... B&S Go Theatrical Message-ID: <005001c141af$f782a0e0$9bd556d1@pavilion> Hi Lovers.... Many things on my mind, including: * Sand on a wet body, beachside. * Jealousy at my special friend Rachel Cornflake for not only singing onstage with Belle and Sebastian, but getting some smashing photos as well. * Pleased & excited about THE SOUND of THE NEW B&S; starting with Legal Man and extending into Jonathan David and now blossoming into The Season Has Arrived (which I just heard in its live version); presenting our Belles et Sebbys as being excited about pop music, and having the glee to show it. I hereby dub them as the Most Gleefully Soul-Searching band of today. * Urging anyone who took photos at the U.S. shows to post them, no matter how blurry or sweaty. Especially photos which document a fan being onstage with the band, as occurred so many times. Wouldn't you, if you'd danced on stage with our favorite band, want a picture of it? So get in touch with Rachel Cornflake, or Rachel "Smartly Dressed", or others, if you documented their moment of fame. They'll thank you. * Michael Jackson: If he wants to do ANYTHING for the victims of the attacks on America, he'll AVOID releasing any recorded music in the near future. Especially not a generic "We Are The World" type group-tribute. I appreciate where his heart's at, but Mike, we've suffered ENOUGH. * Lyrics: Have the complete lyrics to "The Magic Of A Kind Word" been posted yet? I've only seen the lyrics that came with the guitar tabs (thanks Mike K) but they only had the 1st verse. Shouldn't we update the Lyrics page on the Sinister site? Methinks so. * Bootleggers: Anyone surfacing with audio from the West-American tour? Send me some mp3's and I won't tell a soul. I swear. Really. I mean it. * Positive Thinking: Hang in there. Things are bad but not terrible. Love to you all (And a HUGE welcome-back to Joan of Dark); ~Brier www.brier.homestead.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 18:45:44 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The King Is Dead [but long live the Boss] Message-ID: <20010920174544.19019.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> For a while now, people have been saying that a fundamental change has overtaken the world. A caesura in history, if you like. Perhaps they are right. But here, hard on its heels, like a bus following with irritating rapidity its predecessor, is another epochal event, of quite different scale and character, as reported by our Chelmsford collispondent. The departure of the geezer, Peter Miller. I think it true to say that sinister will not be the same again. The colours may look the same, the cartoon girls may still frown (do they? I haven't looked at them for a while), but we are living on the other side of a break in list time. The question is --- what the heck am *I* doing here? Possibly time should be taken for a full tribute to the geezer - a retrospective gaze, at least, over some of his finest moments from the past. Who knows? It might even happen. MyMomSays has posted twice in a row, but I must admit, I like her Handle a lot. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joiscurious at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 19:47:56 2001 From: joiscurious at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?jo=20perry?=) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:47:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: buy me a statement of self esteem. Message-ID: <20010920184756.25283.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Not wishing to sound like a dull assembly by a try too hard trendy teacher, i decided to post something to generally fight off any insecure feelings that humankind allow to fester within. I recently met a young man who liked Belle and Sebastian and was generally rather easy on the eye. Unfortunately the moment it occured to me that he was rather lovely all the nagging doubts flung open their high rise windows and started to shout at me. (high rise because they live in my head, my heart is too intelligent to house them) I voiced many reasons as to why he wouldn't be interested in me, and eventually bored myself. Even though i am a rather lovely person it seems that all the good judgement i pride myself on having disappears when fellas are involved. The problem is though i know the self criticism is generally unfounded, i still can't just walk up to him and introduce myself properly. This post has acted as some kind of therapy. If you can reason out your fears perhaps you can overcome them. I still don't know if i am going to introduce myself. I may just send him some Belle and Sebastian lyrics and hope he realises the sender is a truly nice girl. jojo xx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 20:00:41 2001 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:00:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: marx and engels Message-ID: <15c.141ccf6.28db96d9@aol.com> hi ok, i haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, and i know people can be a little... funny about this sort of stuff, but if you're inclined, marx and engels is available for download on audiogalaxy. i dunno where it's come from or anything, but... well, if you can, go and listen to it. like all the greatest belles songs, it sounds like seven different things they've already done... but i guess that doesn't matter when the formula is fantastic. i'd wanted to save myself for when the single came out, but i'm impetuous and the sort of person who'll polish off a jar of peanut butter in one sitting. and so i indulged, but i'm glad. because as i'm sitting here in half dark, watching the sky going pink to grey over the rooftops, it's the greatest thing in the world to listen to. mouche +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From creature6 at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 20:08:33 2001 From: creature6 at xxx.com (JASON A.) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:08:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ?? Message-ID: do I still belong to sinester??? honey? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 19:59:38 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:59:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: San Francisco Show Message-ID: <3BAA3C99.304B9961@netopia.com> In light of all the tragic events that have happened, I did not post a review of the San Francisco show I wnet to at teh Warfield on Saturday September 8th. It was a magical night. And I will always think of it as the weekend before innocence was lost. The song, "I Fought In a War" has never felt so prevalent. I was in awe of how gorgeous the band is. Complete eye candy if you will! Isobel wore the cutest denim skirt and the band was in top form and looked great! I was unaware of the scope of there group/band. They went off with out a hitch. Especially the cover of The Smiths "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side". I almost fainted! I categorize my fanatic obsessions into groups and solo artists. At that point in time both merged, as my favorite group sang words from my favorite singer! Legal Man was a great moment as well. The stage filled with singers and players all in unison! I hope that Belle and Sebastian come back and fill me with joy again. It seems with the future in such disarray, we will all need the uplifting words and sounds from this tremendously talented group! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From creature6 at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 20:29:32 2001 From: creature6 at xxx.com (JASON A.) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:29:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: THE STROKES Message-ID: I dont know if anyone has been listening to the band the STROKES, but they are the best band in the world right now other than B&S of course. They are playing at the Filmore in san Francisco soon. If you get a chance check em out. Does anyone know if B&S are stuck in the states??? jason. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peetsketch at xxx.com Thu Sep 20 23:56:24 2001 From: peetsketch at xxx.com (steve peet) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:56:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Like the Winter and the Morning Message-ID: Hey Thought I'd pop by and say 'Hello' again. The nights are drawing in now and the air is starting to get chilly, I've worn my grown-up coat on the way to the train for the first time this season, over my new suit and new square shoes. I guess I'll be seeking out these cosy places some more now. I hope the respective picnics went well? Sorry I couldn't have been there in Manchester, but I, er, was a bit busy. I'm glad it all happened though - thanks to Cay, apparently you did a rather good job! Did you make it to Smile afterwards? I'm resisting downloading the new single... there's nothing like getting a nice shiny new CD, or even vinyl maybe, on the day of release. Mmm, 'day of release' - I like that. I had a team meeting with the department I'm about to move to the other day. (Rearrange those words to make a coherent sentance!). As part of the 'ice-breaker' we all had to take along a track that someehow signified our lives at the moment. I couldn't choose just one B&S track, much as I wanted to, so I took along an Aislers Set tune instead. I was a bit bothered though as Kylie faded in to the Moody Blues in to Marylyn Manson... till Jackie pulled out FYHCYWLAP and put on Waiting for the Moon to Rise! She's old enough to be my mum! I was well chuffed - I think I'm going to like working with them. Even Mags and her scary 'see you jimmy' accent. There, content and everything! Till the next time PeetSketchSteve -x- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From megatherion5 at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 00:57:29 2001 From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:57:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I can't stand Ayn Rand and I'm "OK" with that...... Message-ID: "So Sinister.....we meet again." "I, locked in my fortress of solitude and you, blissfully wafting through my electronic window like the smell of a pie cooling on the sill...." "I'll pretend not to notice your smug look......" "Well..Sinister....let me tell you.....things have been quite less than boring here in the land of Fruits and Nuts (and other places it's worse I hear) ....but somehow I have managed not to enjoy it. " "You see, I used to revel in chaotic events....and now I get caught in it....panic attacks aside and indigestion and all that rot(gut). But Sinister, here in my mauve tower.....this tall phallus of finance....i sit, a person." "Just a person." One. "Sometimes, Sinister, I feel that the common thread of B and S (oh, you've heard of them!) and the culture that surround such illustrious illusions of music melancholia...is the focus on singularity and individuality. Generalities are for generals...(generally speaking). " "Sinister, what I am trying to say is that personal stories are an integral part of their vibe...like a good Bob Dylan song. " Characters. "When one thinks of it, the world is just 5 Billion diaries or.... if you look at it another way... it is one diary....." Living in a constant ellipse, The Pickle Prince P.S. "Sinister, give me a call sometime and we'll have a whiskey. I never get to see you now that you have that "new" job and you've hooked up with that significant other. " P.P.S. "Oh yeah, Sinister, for the love of God, don't take Ayn Rand at face value." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 12:09:22 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:09:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: Superstar picnicers! Here we go......da,da,dada,dada.... Message-ID: <14.1af16fb3.28dc79e2@aol.com> Hi guys and gals What an entertaining weekend I had just gone. It was great to get up to Edinburgh to see that crowd and to see the city again cos I used to live just a little way away in Rosyth when I was 8, this didn't help me find my way there mind with the train delayed by an hour or so. Not to worry, as when I did get there we had a good night, yeah?, well I did. ...Jeremy walking into the pavement...Jackanory (Andy-style).... ...meeting Belle....generous drink-buying people....the early morning bolanaise, ice-cream and Cointreau spectacular...and lot's of other stuff I shan't bore you with right now.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Woke up Sunday morning to the dreamy sounds of Ken struming his guitar in the kitchen and me and Will just sat and listened for a while. It was very surreal in a 1970's, Goodbye Emmanuelle,soft focus, pale lit kind of way. But without the sexy bits you understand! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Then onwards darn-sarf in a 100mph BMW-baiting run to Manchester. Only stopping once at the most beautifull service station in the world. I mean, have you ever been to a service station with it's own souvenier shop? Manchester. When we got to the picnic it had pretty much been had and I'd got a really nasty headache and the grass was wet and I wanted to go to bed. But we went to the pub and all was well again. As it turned out they were a good crowd and an entertaining evening was had by all, and before I get a reputation I'd better set it straight that the bouncer kissing incident was a truth or dare forfeit, so don't you boys start inviting me round ! As was picnic mummy Cay's rendition of The state I'm in, which she had us all taken in by with her lovely voice. Lastly, ThanQ Ken for being the owner of the best car music this side of Pluto and for giving us all lifts to our various homes. Hey! if you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. James. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 22:45:07 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:45:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sun, sea and sadness Message-ID: <006201c142e7$7d678760$9beb7ad5@aqlzosqt> i just got back from holiday last night; it felt like bad timing but what can you do? security at gatwick last thursday was mega, and i was glad. i don't suppose a croatia airlines flight to dubrovnik would be a prime target for hijackers, but still. it was a beautiful place. i think matt and i felt extra lucky to be there and to have each other. an american couple came into our hotel to watch cnn as they couldn't get it at theirs, and i thought how difficult it must have been to be so far away from their own country at such a time (although obviously it kept them safe.) today in the co-op a stupid man was talking about refugees: 'taking our jobs and scrounging, i'd round them up and shoot them, i really would'. he was totally serious and i thought - haven't people learned anything, won't people ever stop hating? well, all of you who saw b&s in the states and canada - you were blessed with a rare hour or so of beauty, and it's just struck me again how the amazing people on sinister are a special bonus for loving this band. kisses to all, archel xxx *************************************** For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bowliekidz at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 16:17:05 2001 From: bowliekidz at xxx.com (Easter House) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:17:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuarts staying in - sounds like a plan Message-ID: Dear All, Long time no speak, so... I am sad. Very sad... I don�t know why. But I do as well. I listened to fyhcywlap last night and it made me sad. It always makes me sad. It shouldn't. Mm makes me happy to listen to, yet the picture of them makes me sad to look at. Stuart�s voice never fails to make me smile, but somehow on that album it only ever makes me frown. It�s a strange thing, fyhcywlap. I think it is because it reminds me of Glasgow. And no other B&S do. I love Glasgow. London sucks. Do you know, on arrival in Glasgow a tramp hailed a cap for me, opened the door and wished me an enjoyable stay. I didn�t even buy the big issue from him. I lied, and told him I already had one. Not true. The only experience I have ever had with a homeless person (much more PC) in London involved her chasing me down the Tottenham Court Road with a dog. True story. A club bouncer rescued me. Which was nice. So, I am sad, and I want an explanation. I had one of the best days of my life on Sunday. I went to the British Museum, then record shopping, then for drinks, then down to the Victoria Embankment (that�s on the north bank of the river, for non London hipsters) and admired the truly beautiful view. (Why is it London is only ever beautiful at night?). All of this in the company of a very lovely man. A true sweetheart� Maybe. I don�t know him that well, but on first impressions he gets 10 out of 10. Loads of good gigs coming up, which makes London great again� Perhaps. But it�s nothing on Glasgow. I would swap the thousands of ok bars and venues for the two FANTASTIC bars and couple of good venues Glasgow has. But I have no money. And I am a wet, so I can�t do it on my own. I need a friend. Maybe this boy will be great and marry me and we can live there happy ever after I hear you cry. (Well, maybe some of you will whisper). No � he is moving to Japan in 9 months, so there isn�t really any point in pursuing him at all. And, I think the point is � the surroundings shouldn�t make you happy. You should be happy in yourself, and the settings will compliment this. I need to do some exercise, get really pissed and take some ecstasy. This is the answer� And as the weekend has just arrived, my end-of-working-weeks blues are about to be destroyed�. Until next Thursday night. Are Thursday nights happy in Glasgow?? Answers on a postcard. Go! Go out and celebrate last Monday�s release of the new Spiritualised! Hurrah!! Loving your work, Joey X _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Fri Sep 21 16:30:18 2001 From: gogron at xxx.uk (Gordon) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:30:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: eyebrow notes Message-ID: <3BAB5D0A.2E817F54@netscapeonline.co.uk> I laid in the heather on the old battlefield and my face acted, by doing nothing, as the landing platform for a dragonfly, and a few other buzzing things that approached from a variety of imagined distances and directions. I felt more useful than I have for quite a while. Then, later, I sat on the fallen tree... climbing upon it there is one bough which affords a relaxed position with a view of the Trossachs and the Carse; but the tree winds further into a thickly forrested area, in which pheasants scuttle and other birds on high branches coo mysteriously. I used to dream that owls lived here. Living in a constant ellipse says Jason do I still belong to sinester??? says Jason departure of the geezer, Peter Miller says the pinefox Or maybe they just appreciated our jiggling breasts. says girls bowling in Colorado One suspects that all these statements are connected somehow but not, as yet, sure exactly why. We do live in interesting times. What will happen next? Share prices plummet. I can't help but have a morbid fascination for all the drama. Elliptical breast juggling, Ken: get a grip on that! :) And where's a Monty Python video when you want one? I make do with old articles in *Punch* magazine compendiums by the likes of Miles Kington and Alan Coren and, of course, reading your posts. which reminds me: corin and i played with diamonds says Kirsten. Top lass, that girl, I reckon. 'Suppose Corin and the diamonds are sparkly too, if they're like their friend:) I'm running out of saying things, and fifteen minutes are.. up Just imagine all those fascinating gaps and silences! After all: your imagination is better than mine... Just one thing... I used to have large church candles on the mantlepiece, placed symmetrically over the architectural feature. Over a year, this symmetry dissembled, for although the room was nearly exactly square, and the candles placed equally either side of one of its faces, the patterns of soot veered to the right. In stasis, there was an equality but, over time, the draughts from the window to the left cast a different life on the design: changed the design. I just wanted to share the idea... I don't mean to proseltise. After all; such efforts would be useless, since we all worship Spike Milligan [or whoever]:) Gordon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bowliekidz at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 16:43:22 2001 From: bowliekidz at xxx.com (Easter House) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:43:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mm ... aka - Message-ID: Now admit it... We all read our own mails... (please say that isnt just me!!!) Just wanted to let you know that "Mm " is supposed to be "MUM" but with a wiggley Icelandic letter bit over the top of the "U". For some reason it turned into that. Which seems starnge to me. 21 seconds to go, Joey x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 18:15:28 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:15:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: if i could only shift the perception Message-ID: you know when you have a freind whose opinion you value and you would lkke them to think well of you, but they seem so much more impressed by everyone else they know? well, i know, and golly jeepers does is make me sad. but eventually i won't care. i hope. i am also getting very afraid that i will never see B&S perfrom becasue i live in the wrong places. perhaps i will just walk around with tme on my headphones for a while while i am at the peace rally in washington DC on septmber 29. it'll remind me of a concert setting...maybe. anyone else who is appalled by US foreign policy and is concrned that operation "infinite justice" as they are calling it here in the states is just going to kill thousands of innocent cicilians and not really solve the problem anyway should come to this if they can. i'm looking forward to being around some sanity. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmonkee at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 18:15:29 2001 From: kmonkee at xxx.com (Kirstin Schreiber) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:15:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: if i could only shift the perception Message-ID: you know when you have a freind whose opinion you value and you would lkke them to think well of you, but they seem so much more impressed by everyone else they know? well, i know, and golly jeepers does is make me sad. but eventually i won't care. i hope. i am also getting very afraid that i will never see B&S perfrom becasue i live in the wrong places. perhaps i will just walk around with tme on my headphones for a while while i am at the peace rally in washington DC on septmber 29. it'll remind me of a concert setting...maybe. anyone else who is appalled by US foreign policy and is concrned that operation "infinite justice" as they are calling it here in the states is just going to kill thousands of innocent cicilians and not really solve the problem anyway should come to this if they can. i'm looking forward to being around some sanity. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phat_buu at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 19:38:18 2001 From: phat_buu at xxx.com (Todd Johnson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Thats makes a whole lot of nonsense! Message-ID: <20010921183818.8491.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, Well I wrote a really short silly story last night. here it is. Not much to do with belle and Sebastian, but maybe inspired by there music? Its not really finished but I don�t have anymore ideas, then again there aren�t ideas in this story anyways. Good bye, have a nice day. The names of the characters in The Tale Times Green Table are as follows: Circle, Square, and Octagon. Circle�s last name is Strange, Square�s is Watermelon, and lastly Octagon�s last name is Mailbox. First scene: A day is about to bloom in the center of Missing Hearts. Circle is lounging in an ice cream parlor reading the bi-monthly issue of Travel, a magazine that divulges all the secret hide-a-ways of the universe that only the interested know of. He has been here for more than 26 minutes when a man molded in a different shape enters the shop. � Octagon enters the shop, walks across the dirty floor to the counter and glances at the name tag of the server. Octagon: Hello �Ice Cream Parlor Employee�, I�ll have last weeks special. Employee: 10 cents then. � Octagon realizes he has no money, he searches his pockets for some time hoping someone will see his situation and help him out. Circle is being his usual perceptive self today and notices what is happening. He sets down his magazine and does a sort of skip walk over to the two men, pulls out a dime and sets it on the counter. Circle: Don�t mention it, I love Ice Cream too. � When Circle turns around to head back to his seat he see the Devil run of with his magazine. Scratches his head for 3 seconds then says� Circle: The devil just stole my Travel magazine! � Circle stares at the sign above the stack of Travel magazines by the door, �FREE.� Octagon: Devils are illiterate. Circle: Oh, that�s right, I keep forgetting. Octagon: Lets trudge our way to the park to enjoy our ice cream as it melts in the sunny Sun. � With that the two are off to the park and there seems to be a new friendship blossoming. All thanks to a shared temptation in ice cream. THE END ===== -Sir Benjamin October Cylde __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ryanbthat at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 20:31:14 2001 From: ryanbthat at xxx.com (Rinaldo Thatchez) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:31:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Work is for suckers. Message-ID: This is all I can think today, my penultimate Friday at this job. I have to. It makes me feel better because with the economy in the U.S. being what it is coupled with the havoc and the layoffs and soon the fighting, I fear I might not ever get a job again. Once again, my timing is impeccable. Due to the dread of an involuntarily extended and unsubsidized unemployment I was actually considering enlisting in an almost half-serious way recently. It strikes me that the armed services could make a killing (oooh, did I just say that?) at the enlistment offices by using the converse of their old recruitment slogan, i.e. "It's not just an adventure; It's a job!" Did I mention I'm not doing so hot today? Well, I'm not. I got my ya-yas out a little bit last night and now I feel terrible. Real terrible. Tired and terrible. I feel the kind of terrible that makes every third word to pass through my thoughts 'Jesus'. As in, "I hope I . . . Jesus, . . . don't miss the . . . oh, Jesus, . . . bus. I really don't . . .oh, help me Jesus . . .want to be late. Oooh, Jesus. My head. Jesus." I am gaining a whole new awareness for my body today. I had no idea I had the capacity to feel so much pain in so many distinct ways and in so many places at once. I now understand the infinity of inner space. That is the only way to explain how I could contain so much hurt. What am I doing here? Who are these people and what do they want from me? But anyhoo, this is my first post since going to THE GIG so I thought I should mention something about it. I was both impressed and underwhelmed, exultant and disappointed. Impressed by the musicianship and ability to recreate the records so well and by the goshdarned attractiveness of just about everybody on stage (why so camera shy?). Underwhelmed because, well, I'm underwhelmed a lot. I tend to build up lots of excitement for things so that they can never live up to expectations. Exultant though, because, despite their inability to fulfill my incredibly tall order, it was still THEM, the event I'd been waiting (and waiting, and waiting) for. I think I grew extra body hair just so it could stand up. Disappointed though because they didn't play some of my favorite songs but what band ever does (although sometimes they do and it's magic then, isn't it?). It is also now my firm opinion that Jonathan Richman is a very fine guitar player and most likely capable of winning over even the most hostile audience. Not that we were but he's just that winning. And that Paramount theater sure is a beautiful place. Big ups to the Seattle meet up crew who were surprisingly small in number - basically me, Jen, Elise and Jen's friends - but long on charm and chock full of drankin' and gambling spirit. Okay, now follows a 100% true story that I wrote about the time I cleaned up after a living legend and a goddamned genius. Just something I typed up recently and I felt like sharing cuz I ain't doing lick of work. If you don't want to read it but you are a Ken Chu fan, scroll down. I've uncovered something you might find interesting. The Time I Picked Up Brian Wilson's Poo by Rinaldo Thatchez When I was in high school I worked at a small, one-screen movie theatre in Malibu. Brian Wilson would come in fairly regularly and He had a very specific routine at the movies. Immediately after pushing through the turnstiles, He would get an extra large diet coke with no ice. Depending on how early He was for the movie he might be back for a refill before the film even began. On this particular occasion He did not come back for a refill until about fifteen minutes into the film. Given that He doesn't come out for his first refill until the movie has been on for 15 minutes or so, I and my work companions (usually a three man crew) have already had the opportunity to clean up the lobby and the bathrooms following the rush so that everything will be perfect again when they emerge from the film. I am standing behind the concession counter alone while Seth and Todd, the Frank brothers, are up on the roof smoking a bowl. You see, Brian Wilson is not the only one with a routine for being at the movie theatre. Generally, on the days when there was no manager around (most of them), whoever has weed takes one guy up to the roof to get high while the third mans the helm. When they come down, they pass doobage and paraphernalia to the third guy so he can go to the roof. So while I'm waiting to go up there, Brian Wilson comes out and passes me his cup for a fresh, extra large diet coke with no ice. During the course of a typical film he will do this three to four times. Not surprisingly, each trip to the concession stand is combined with a trip to the restroom and this time is no exception. While I fill His cup at the concession stand he goes to fill ours in the restroom. I am positively dizzy with the thought of the continuously flowing liquids that surround this man, from the ocean of his songs and life to the diet coke that seems to be constantly flowing from one vessel to another and finally, through Brian Himself, the final vessel, only to rejoin the ocean, and begin the cycle again. And I wasn't even stoned yet. When Brian comes back out I hand Him His refill and He goes back into the movie and I go back to wondering what's taking Seth and Todd so long and whether there will be anything left for me - an unspoken rule that, being unspoken, occasionally gets broken. A few seconds later, a guy comes out and uses the bathroom. He comes back after about a #1 length of time and says, "hey, you've got a little cleanup to get to in there." I look halfway up from my magazine. "What did you do?" He gives me this really disgusted, offended look. "I didn't do it," he says. "Well, what are you talking about?" "You'll see," he says, walking back into the theatre. . . It is then that Seth and Todd return from from the roof, Todd punching Seth in the back of the head and Seth threatening to turn around and "work" Todd. I tell them about what happened. They agree with me that it is impossible; we cleaned the bathrooms perfectly. Then they ask me what the first guy in the bathroom had looked like. I told them it was Brian Wilson and they immediately start wildly speculating what "that fucked up old barney" might have done in there. They have zero respect for Brian because he never really surfed. Wanting to end their irreverent, unfunny and frankly unlikely suggestions about what particular brand of nastiness He might have committed in our commode and also wanting to hasten my trip to the roof, I charged ahead. My assumption was that He was either a messy hand washer, got the toilet rim a little with His 'creative juices', or, worst case scenario, had Himself a case of the 'rea and didn't flush. Armed with bucket and mop I go in and check for all the expected accidents but things are as we assumed, every surface gleaming white and sparkle bright. I am thoroughly confused. I take a peek to make sure it isn't a number two in the urinal, which happens on rare occasions and totally surprises me every time. I mean, it's a physically difficult operation for one and, secondly, there is like zero privacy. Anyone could come in at any point and find you with your ass against the wall, probably spreading the cheeks with your hand to keep from messing yourself in such an unconventional position. What do you say then? The stall was dirty? I am from Europe? I don't think there is much that is going to work. I check the toilet dispensers just in case He was a foul enough individual to soak the roll. At this point I am actually still thinking that it was the other guy and he was just trying to deflect the blame. This is denial, I realize, when I see what he was talking about. Brian Wilson's struggles with, well, sanity have been well publicized and clearly what I saw before me was not the work of a well man. At first I didn't quite understand what I was seeing. It looked more like a a slug than anything and if I could have believed that a slug could have gotten in there I would have thought the complainer to be pretty squeamish. But I figured it out quick enough. It was a turd, about eight inches from the front plane of the urinal. Just a wee dollop of a turd, but somehow its smallness seemed worse, dirtier. This was not a healthy by-product of natural human digestion. This was a sick, insidious health hazard that had no right to be there. Worst of all, it was Brian Wilson's. I liked to think that he was pulling himself together and though, admittedly, liked diet coke a little too much, was basically okay. Not so. It didn't take a forensics expert to reconstruct the crime scene. I stood next to the turd and found myself perfectly centered at the second urinal with my left heel just next to the turd. If I had been wearing long trousers, like He had been, the leg would have been hovering just above it. Obviously he came to relieve Himself and got a little too relaxed. Whether it slipped down without His knowledge or He had to shake it out a little bit I don't know but the basic circumstances are clear. There are those who would say that Brian Wilson's creative output, while once brilliant, has dried up over the years. I can vouch for that statement personally because I've been watching a small piece of it shrivel up and grow flaky in a jar on my bookshelf since 1991. The End CHU ALERT: Have you been to his website yet? Every fan's duty. No mention of DDR though. Curious. http://www.seweb.uci.edu/faculty/chew.html Take Care Sinister, -Rinaldo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Fri Sep 21 23:43:56 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:43:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: What's it all mean? Message-ID: Hello Sinister kids, With all the madness going on, and the fact that the country seems to have crawled up its own arse, I thought a little discussion of *gasp!* Belle and Sebastian was in order. I'm finally settling back in after returning from my trek out west with a fellow Sinister person. When you're stuck in a car with someone while driving across the states and your MP3 player batteries go dead there's only one thing to do; talk. So after discussing the Ethical Structure of the Universe and The Meaning of Life, talk naturally turned to everyone's favourite band...but enough about N'SYNC...no, no I'm just kidding. The band in question was of course Belle and Sebastian. Between the many talks about the menaings behind certain songs, and the identities and tracking of the different characters (Mary Jo, Judy, Lisa, etc) the word TWEE was mentioned. This drew a bit of a reaction from me. I don't think Belle and Sebastian are TWEE at all, at least, I don't think their songs are very twee. Why? Here's my answer as I said it somewhere on the plains of Wyoming: "How the heck are songs about rape, depression, sexual abuse, and suicide TWEE?" Because, I think, there's a bit of a dismissal of the songs by calling them twee, as if they were lighthearted, childish things (obviously, not are their songs are about *bad things*, but for this discussion I'm looking at the unhappy ones). Let me give a few examples: "Rhoda" - With her freckles and SCARS on her arms (self-mutilation? Suicide attempt?) and use of medications to calm her down. "Expectations" - Oy, not exactly a happy song is it? "We Ruled the School" - 'Why did she do it was she scared, was she pushed?' - I always thought this was a song about a girl's suicide, and at the very least it isn't a very happy song, is it? "Mary Jo" - Sounds like a bit happier song, until you realize the singer is pissed it's all in Mary jo's head. "She's Losing it" - Abused girl The fast version; String Bean Jean sounds like she has an eating disorder, Lazy Jane isn't happy and is having lots of sex looking for love (Jane's not a prostitute, she knows someone who is though), 'Slow Graphetti's about a guy this time, and an unhappy one at that, and there are plenty of other songs with male protags in pain. I could go on, but I won't. That isn't to say these aren't happy songs, I love them and they rarely depress me at all, but I wouldn't call them twee just because they have some strings and flutes in them. I remember talking to someone who was so shocked at 'Chalet Lines' and I think the reason some were shocked by that song was that they didn't realize that Stuart's been singing about the same things since he started out. With Chalet Lines the language was clear enough and the story direct enough that it wasn't cloaked inside the verses and double meanings. I don't think Stuart's twee at all, I think he's doing what any good writer (songwriter or otherwise) should do, he's reporting on the world around him and what he sees. That's what makes B&S special to me, the pure honesty that runs through the songs (as well as the excellent melodies and arrangements of course). Because I've known girls like Rhoda and boys like the narrator of "Mary Jo" and I've been the narrator of "She's Losing It". Stuart's telling us about these people with a whole lot of love and humanity and warmth...and manageing to entertain the piss out of us in the process. Not many bands could come close to what Belle and Sebastian quietly accomplishes each time out. There are layers to the songs, and many alternate ways they could be taken (I don't think my takes on the songs are definite, just what they seem like to me) and this too is part of the beauty of their simplicity. So let's talk, discuss all that rubbish I wrote up there, tell me (and the list) what you think B&S songs are about, or what they mean to you. Oh, and you should all check out: http://www.oateshouse.org.uk/chrismorris/ Click on 'pixies' for the greatest Pixies pisstake ever, simply stunning, I nearly fell off my chair laughing. The others are equally as good, especially the phone call to Piers Morgan. So, let's give the list a bit of a kick, what's Belle and Sebastian mean to you? Jim P.S., I'm quite sorry to have missed the meet-ups, though I did meet a few of you without knowing it. Rachel will remember me as the bloke who tried to catch Stuart so he could sign her baseball after the San Fran show, and some others might remember me sitting near the head of almost all the lines before the shows. Short bloke with sometimes spiky hair and black glasses, stupid grin on his face, that would have been me. I would have made the Seattle meet-up if only I had managed to find computer access in this bloody country. *sigh* I miss the UK and europe where you couldn't go a block without tripping over a net cafe or kiosk. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 02:18:20 2001 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:18:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ringtones? Message-ID: <005f01c14304$78d15740$5b7879a5@pavilion> Since the Sinister Archive is currently down, and since your Brier just today sold out and got a cell phone, could anyone be kind enough to supply some ring-tones for my Nokia, and a short tutorial about installing such tones? Off list, if you please! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 04:50:26 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Crazy "Beautiful" Message-ID: <20010922035026.63750.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister!! I have just read some entertaining posts, sitting here lazily clicking through them whilst at work. I must say that Rinaldo's story about Brian Wilson and his digestive tract has set me up for the weekend, I'm laughing so hard!! Jim's post about the meaning behind Belle & Sebastian's songs and how they are not very "twee" is really my reason for posting... "Beautiful" is really a crushing song to me because it reminds me of one night a couple of years ago when I was visiting my friend Kyle in Texas (the first person to introduce me to B&S! If Kyle is reading this, he needs to e-mail me!), and we had been up all night drinking... if you've been in Texas in June then you know how oppressive the heat is, even in the early morning hours...(It's EVEN WORSE than it is here in the Los Angeles area!) I was laying there trying to locate the ceiling, lightly tinged with the shadow through the window shade from the lightening sky outside.("watching the colours change" if you will...) We had a fan on in the room turned up really high so it felt really cool and breezy... And we listened to B&S really loud... it soaked into every pore in my body and resounded into my bones. I remember how hot the tears that welled up in my eyes felt as I listened to the lyrics and thought about how much I loved Kyle and yet he just lay there unresponsive, with his back to me, wrapped in a sheet... and I knew I'd never have him cos he didn't feel the same about me. The part at the very end where it's all distant and metallic sounding is the clincher for me, Stuart sang to me right then "...and everyone she knew thought she was beautiful, only slightly mental..." Shortly after that I started taking the anti-depressant medication, Zoloft. (not because of Stuart singing to me, but because I needed to!) I don't like telling many people about it, but I guess I can tell you lot because it has to do with the song! (Colin, this will sound familiar!) Zoloft creates this buffer so that I don't dwell on things so much, so I don't go hysterical at any random moment, so I can stop being OBSESSED, and not spend all of my money following Suede!! This is a good thing. But it also makes it so I feel flat, like I can't get very excited about things, the emotion is just buried. But the lyrics to "Beautiful" have great personal meaning to me in this context. "The doctor told her years ago that she was ill/the doctor told her years ago to take a pill/the doctor told her years ago that she'd go blind if she wasn't careful" and the doctor told me that I was having a severe depressive episode and that I should take this pill, but if I wasn't careful I could "go blind" because I won't know how to deal with life without it. "she made herself a pair of orthopedic shoes/she thought it was the answer to the fashion blues/ ...now she walks with a limp" That's me, I took the drug. I thought it was the answer to my "she's in fashion" blues. and I wasn't careful... I've tried to go off of it twice but now when I try, I feel out of control without it and I am a wreck. I am not used to feelings at maximum strength. "They let Lisa go blind/the world was at her feet and she was looking down" is how my friends and family treat me...they are relieved that I am not so irratic and irrational anymore, they "let Lisa go blind" by letting me stay on this drug that is supressing my personality because they don't know what it feels like to be this way. They don't care as long as I am easy to live with. The world is at my feet and I AM looking down, I'm feeling broken and weak for being addicted to this drug "but everyone she knew thought she was beautiful, only slightly mental, beautiful, only tempermental" most people have no idea that I have to be medicated to function properly anymore, I look great from the outside, just a "slightly mental" and "tempermental" artist type. "she thought it would be fun to try most anything, she was tired of sleeping" that's how I feel about wanting real passion in my life again, I am tired of being suppressed. But anyway, sorry to keep going on and on about it... Just a footnote, I plan to get switched to another anti-depressant that is not so severe, so maybe I'll have to find a different B&S song to relate to my life, or just think of "Beautiful" in a different context! Now you all are probably going to want to refer to me as "Crazy Rachel" in your posts instead of "Rachel Smartly Dressed" (you're a cutie, Brier!) Not to be confused with "Rachel Cornflake" or just-returning-home Rachel we all know and love as "archel" Welcome Home! !Viva Rachels! !Viva Sinister! Love to you all! Love, Rachie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From santitrullenque at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 12:47:06 2001 From: santitrullenque at xxx.com (Santi Trullenque) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:47:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: THE STROKES (Best band on the world?) References: Message-ID: Well well well, so now somebody discovers that THE STROKES is the best band in the world. I think you went too far Jason A. :) Lets say they're cool, they got this from THE JAM (one of the best bands ever!), a little bit from Sex Pistols, another little from PIXIES (?), and many more like: Johnny Thunders, Dead Kennedys, The Stranglers, The Barracudas, and many more... and then they mixed all this and voilà! you have THE STROKES. Nothing new but... Yes, they're cool, see them if you have the chance, BUT They are not the best band in the world right now or tomorrow :) I'll send you a list of the best band(s) on the world later! Santi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 15:50:15 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:50:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The season has arrived Message-ID: <003b01c14375$e52c39c0$0b97bdac@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello, Another autumn is here. Time to pack up the short-sleeved T-shirts, the sunglasses, the beachballs, and start another 9 months of seriousness. For me personally, anyway, autumn has always been the time when the fun ends, when I start going back to school. This year has been slightly different, I have finished university, and had the best summer of my life, every summer seem to get slightly better, I don't know if it is because I got older and learnt how to live life better? Or that I just have a rubbish memory and have forgotten about what brilliant times I had say on my summer of 92. It doesn't matter tho, because as far as I remember this summer had been the best. The reason? I can't really say, maybe it's because I have a new status in life, having finished university, and now in the exciting (yeah) stage of job hunting (whilst having a somewhat unrewarding temporary job), or maybe because I have more friends than I ever did before, maybe because I know a lot more things than before, I'm more confident than before, I don't know. What will next summer bring? Who knows, there are promises of great things coming, really, great things, I really hope they do come, I really do. I'm getting hungry for great things, really hungry. Maybe, even one day, my life will just become a long summer, and I can just drive around, reenacting scenes from movies, having breakfast at greasy cafes, then checks into a motel, looking into the night sky through a window with a cigarette in my hand (not lit, tho, I don't smoke..), and ponders about whether this summer was the best summer of my life, and probably still babbling to sinister. Right now tho, it's just longing. Warm grass and Red Bulls Ken +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Sep 22 17:18:29 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:18:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: photographic evidence of an embra picnic Message-ID: <20010922161829.14347.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Just a quickie to let you know that a selection of photos from the Sept 15th pic-a-nic are now online at... http://robster75.tripod.com/sinister.html Click now to get your daily fix of Ken and play spot-the-wasp. Robster See more nice pictures at http://robster75.tripod.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spangle79 at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 18:20:25 2001 From: Spangle79 at xxx.com (Spangle79 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:20:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: the loneliness of a 3rd year student Message-ID: Hello! this is my first post and probably blatant list abuse but i thought it was worth a try! are there any lovely b&s fans out there that need a room in Leeds for the year? i'm kinda desperate for a flatmate as the Californian girl i was supposed to be sharing with was advised to go back to the U.S. after terrorist attacks. 2 of her family are in the army and a distant relative was killed, so she wanted to be with her family. if anyone is even slightly interested please e-mail me at Spangle79 at aol.com thanks! sorry about the shortness and lack of anything interesting to say! love Angela* xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Sep 22 20:42:57 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 07:42:57 +1200 Subject: Sinister: helo, WTO stuff, the strokes, B&S, simon & garfunkel, marrige, Hawaii Message-ID: <000101c1439f$f078e380$1f6137d2@computer> 'lo folks well, it looks like the fallout from the WTO bombing has fallen off enough now for me to post without offending anyone sensibilities. It's been a strange last few weeks. one of my friends in London has been holed up in his flat since the 11th, not leave apart from work (close by), waiting for the bombs to start falling. I really can't see America committing to a land war. My Dad was in Vietnam, and I've talked to him and a bunch of his friends in the US, and they all say land war in Afghanistan will make Vietnam look like a picnic. Dubya may be at the height of his popularity now, but once American kids start coming home in body bags it's be another story. damn .... I mentioned it, in the course of not mentioning it. anyway, onto the post proper. ***THE STROKES*** I must be the only person in the world to think that The Strokes are actually kinda shit. Am I? Am I? Back me up. I am convinced that the whole thing is actually a bit of a joke on the NME's past. NME hack #1: "Remember how we got everyone to like Gay Dad for a few moments back in '99, and then we destroyed them buy turning on them like the feral dogs we are" NME hack #2: "huh huh huh ...." NME hack #1: "lets find a band who haven't even released a single yet and see if we can convince people they're THE NEXT BIG THING". OK, so they're not terrible ... rather them than NSYNC. But .... a) they have no b-sides. every track on their first two singles was on their album. So if you've got the two singles you're essential buying 5 or 6 news songs. Which, from a 33 minute album, sucks. b) that guy Casanova has a crap hairstyle. c) people are comparing them to my beloved Television. THERE ARE TELEVISION GUITAR SOLOS WHICH ARE LONGER THAN THE ENTIRE STROKES ALBUM. Virtuoso musicians these people ain't. OK ... rant over. ***STUFF ABOUT B&S*** (Katrina & Neil, please read .....) amazon.co.uk is listing "Storytelling" (presumably the soundtrack) on their site as an import/pre-order. But only a US version. It's supposed to be coming out on November 17th. Is there a tracklisting yet. Is the album ALL B&S stuff,or is the CD split with the music of the guy who wrote the other half of the score? Is it purely instrumental music, or are there songs too? Also, according to the amazon.co.uk site, the US release date for "Season Has Arrived" is a lot earlier than the US release. Is this true, or a glitch? Damn, I'm so excited about this whole new B&S thing ...... ***SIMON & GARFUNKEL*** ... are fantastic. I shelled out for the newly remastered versions of their albums a few weeks ago. Really fantastic band .... so underrated in the 60s cannon. Everyone on this list should rush out and buy "Bookends", knowing how impeccable my taste is, and wishing to emulate me. no really, c'mon guys ........ ***GOIN' TO THE CHAPEL AND I'M GONNA GET MARRIED ....*** I tie the knot in just under two months now. I am both excited and filled with fear. Also, I'm supposed to be going to Hawaii for my honeymoon, and a) America may be at war b) NZ's national airline is about to go bankrupt. bollocks. ***HAWAII*** Are there any sinister listees in Hawaii? Specifically in Waikiki (or nearby)? On the off-chance, mail me, and I'll buy you a drink or a coffee or something, and you and I can meet up and bore Vanessa, my new wife, with talk of pop music. OK, I'm out for breakfast ..... Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 21:10:19 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:10:19 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello sinister, on friday i left my job. It was all very nice, I got given a lovely big card with lots of nice things written inside. Except for one person who told me to "sod off", which was nice of him. and i was bought a year's subscription to NME which will save me 70 odd quid (and piss off my local unfriendly miserable newsagent). I also got lots of hugs, kisses and double vodkas. I think I should leave jobs more often. I am now off to law school for 2 years of intense work and legal stuff. It's a big step but I'm prepared. if being prepared is achieved by watching Ally mcbeal, This Life, Rumpole of the Bailey, LA Law and Judge judy that is. One day I would like to think I would be B&S' legal man. But they are far too nice to get into nasty scrapes, visa problems, drugs charges etc. A band like Oasis on the otherhand would keep me in work for decades. If anyone out in Sinisterland has legal problems in the coming years then they'll find my charges are very reasonable;) remember, where there's blame, there's a claim. p a u l _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From psi_fla at xxx.com Sat Sep 22 22:00:48 2001 From: psi_fla at xxx.com (Simon Fallaha) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:00:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Just another day Message-ID: <013501c143a9$c3932920$9a48893e@fallahome> Hello again everyone. It's my brother's birthday, but that hasn't stopped it being another really long day. The US disaster's not affecting me as much as it used to, by my thoughts are still with all the people severely affected by it. Anyway, I saw The Fast and The Furious a couple of days ago - my mates really loved it, but I didn't think it was anything really special. Still, I reckon it's good fun for anyone. Personally, I look forward to seeing AI. I've decided to try for a lead role in the local Operatic Society's production, but I don't think I'll have much luck. After all, I'm still a relatively new member. And of course, when I audition, I can't sing The Divine Comedy... As usual, here come my notes to everyone: Lawrence Mikkelsen - Don't you worry about people not agreeing with you about The Strokes. My best mate Jim agrees with you 100%. In fact, he's convinced me not to listen to them. Then again, I heard one of their songs on TOTP and it didn't do anything for me. Also, congratulations on getting married (even though you've another two months to wait). I agree with you completely about Simon & Garfunkel. Thought I'd say that I mainly love their music cos of all the films I watch, The Graduate is my favourite. I once said the S & G songs alone were worth seeing it for (then again, I have played them out since). And then you mentioned the war - which I hope will never be. Jenny Payne, and Sweetie - I sent you messages a while ago, but didn't get any reply. Hope you are both fine and well. Sweetie - I listened to Casanova all over again yesterday and I am really growing to like it, Charge and The Woman Of The World especially. Spangle - welcome to the list. Ken Chu - Good to know you had a great summer. Wish the same could have been said for mine (it's been pretty mediocre). Santi - Even though I disagree with you about The Strokes, I look forward to seeing your list of favourite bands. As for mine, I really don't have any firm favourites barring The Divine Comedy, although I am really into Ash and of course, B & S. Then again, you've probably heard all this before... "Crazy" Rachel - Did the title of your message have anything to do with the fact you recently saw Crazy/Beautiful? It's just opened here, but I do have doubts about seeing it. Yes, it's got Kirsten Dunst, but she doesn't look all that nice (she is one of the main reasons to see Bring It On, without a doubt). Still, people say this is her best performance yet. OK, time for me to go see Josie and the Pussycats again. (You were right Cay, it is good). Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john88john88 at xxx.com Sun Sep 23 01:47:15 2001 From: john88john88 at xxx.com (john john) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 00:47:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pink lemonade, matching glitter & pyjamas out of the tumble dryer Message-ID: dear sinister, i just had to close the window near me.. it�s not a fun thought, looking towards the coming months with the winter chill and the cold rain and wind and slushy snow. i went a walk last week quite late, and you could feel the winter chill slowly penetrating the air. it hadn�t developed very much though, so it gave a fresh feeling to the air. the kind of air that makes you look forward to wintery things and snow and toasting next to the radiator after dinner, and being able to wear your duffle-coat. the cat just rubbed up against me. he�s been out all today and yesterday, and my mother was actually worried, due to the fact that he is always around every half hour or so, looking for his food. i saw him last night at the other side of the street in the company of two other felines, so it must have just been the start of the cat convention. cat conventions are fab. there�s this cat in our street called buzz, and he�s the Godfather. he walks about everybody�s territory whether they like it or not. it�s one of those fluffy cats that look cute, but it stops there.. like the cat from Babe, with the pretty frown on its face like a poppy. he wasn�t at the convention when i saw, but no doubt he made a brief appearance sometime in the course of today or last night. i wonder what it�s like to be a cat, especially in an area like mine where there�s nearly a cat to every home. cats generally don�t get on with each other, but is there some sort of alliance? i can see them all hiding from each other at the convention & blowing raspberries when they think the other cats are not looking.. actually, i better go & feed the cat & give it some attention for a while.. take care johnjohn xx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chinacat81 at xxx.com Sun Sep 23 07:37:58 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 01:37:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: every breath we drew was "hallelujah" Message-ID: i met a man with a cockatoo today. he looked like a man with a plan, kicking back on a saturday afternoon with a bottle of pumpkin ale, shiny green sunglasses and a pretty curly-haired woman on the one arm and on the other, a cockatoo, bobbing his white-feathered head. a kid in a diaper running through clouds of smoke and his blue- haired brother, seven years old, telling knock-knock jokes to a couple of old hippies in straw hats at the next table. a velvet- skirted girl pulled up on a pink scooter and sat down next to me, grabbed my notebook and wrote "Cancer bear, there's been a fat eskimo disaster. i forgot about fat tony!" she wrote "smoochie smoochie" a few times and drew some hearts, then ripped the page out of my notebook and handed it to a red-haired girl in pinstripes. after that, i was writing a letter to my one-and-only Mountain Mama Bronwyn and an old man with a cigar he could barely fit his lips around stopped dead in his tracks, stared me down and said "oh, darlin, are you writin a love letter?" i told him "no" and he asked again, so i said "yes" and gave him a little wink. this seemed to satisfy him, and he stumbled on and i went inside for some more water for my tea, and when i came back there was no one left on the patio but an old man telling himself "it's gonna be alright, my brother." and aside from the repetition of this sentence, the only sound was muffled classical music from vinifero and the bells on the trolley buses swelling as they passed and fading into the distance. that's the doppler effect, right? or maybe doppler was just a meteorologist, i can't remember. ginger is going to be a meteorologist, and she goes out in a van and chases tornadoes. she has shiny brown hair and almond-shaped eyes the color of an autumn sky, like today's. we used to be roommates at valparaiso. the entire football team was in love with her, but she didn't care, or even seem to notice. ginger is absolutely unreal. and she always had the morning weather report, and she often left cookies on my pillow. i sat outside for awhile longer today, and a boy walked past holding a copy of jonathan david. i wanted to say hello, but i was too scared. so i drank a bit and listened to jeff buckley. maybe he is on sinister. not jeff buckley, rest his soul, the boy. that would be nice. anyway, that's all. it was a boring day, my day off. work should be a nice time tomorrow. xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Sun Sep 23 20:44:51 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:44:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: He has left us alone Message-ID: <130.1f68a6e.28df95b3@aol.com> Sinister, "He has left us alone but shafts of light still bless the corners of the room" is an album by A Silver Mt. Zion. This album is incredibly sad. A while back I read that the record was written for a member of the band's dog, who was dying of cancer. Two days ago my mother woke me up and told me that my dog, an aging, blind and deaf 15 year old Cocker spaniel, was "not doing too well". She also informed that her and my father were taking him to the vet, and that if nothing could be done--well, they were going to put him to sleep. I'm selfish. I know my dog has been dying for a while now, but I don't want him to go. I milled around the kitchen for a few hours that day, sipping coffee, and I put on the A Silver Mt. Zion album, hoping, somehow, that would make it all better. My dog always gets into the kitchen's most lower cupboards where the cereal is--I will hear a rustling and go downstairs to find him with his face in a box of cheerios. I left the cupboards open, and I remarked to myself that now.. well, it wouldn't matter if I left them open. I often find it weird that my dog's name is "Reggie". I remember when we took him home, before hand the whole family went to eat at Taco Bell and we discussed names. I was all for "Timmy" (I have no idea why.).. my little sister just sat there and gurgled, and my older sister said "Reggie"--everyone agreed it had a nice ring to it. So after all that moping and listening to sad, depressing dead dog music.. my dog came home afterall. He has bad arthritis. But he still looks sad. This post sucked and I'm sorry, Mandee May +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 03:59:21 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:59:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: I think maybe I've gone south... Message-ID: I sit here in my dorm room. Earlier someone who resembled wee chris walked by. For a campus that is generally populated by jockish boys, there are a surprising number of B&S stunt doubles. I've spotted at least three stuart davids. There's a stuart murdock roaming about somewhere. I met a lovely german girl named charlotte who bears a certain resemblance to the asthmatic gerbil voiced one. Somehow I think the ultimate coup would be a Belfast Bob. My parents were at a wedding yesterday while I was watching the graduate. On her wedding night (her third wedding night) the bride made her entrance to Ted Nugent, danced with her father to Def Leopard, and then, to top the evening off, grabbed a mouse that had been discovered crawling the walls. She then proceded to squeeze the life out of the mouse with her left hand as blood dripped from her right where it had bit her. I'm so confused by the absolute ridiculous nonsense in the world. Now I've had the song Is This It by the strokes on repeat for about a half hour now. Not a particularly wonderful song but it is suiting my mood beautifully. The tone balances somewhere between melancholy and happiness. I don't think there's much else I could listen to at the moment. Anything happier would make me sad because I'm not that happy. Anything sadder would make me sad because, well because it's sad. I doubt I've cried more in a single day than I did today. I cried when I thought about how much I missed Peter. I cried when my mother wouldn't book tickets for me to go to England in December. I cried when she said she didn't want me to do my study abroad in Bath next year. I cried when we talked about the terrorist attacks. I cried pretty much every time I talked to Peter and for a while afterwards. I think I've had a good idea though. My parents want me to study abroad in Germany. Here's what I propose. Next year I spend the second semester in Bath, rather than the whole year. I'll still study german and get alot of core courses out of the way. Then next year I'll spend a semester in Germany. Everybody wins. I'll see Peter. I'll spend time in Germany. I won't be gone for a whole year at a time. If I can do this. We'll see. My mom said something that seemed genuinely sweet today. That her and my dad always felt like they were on borrowed time with me because I was a gift given to them that didn't really come from them. For all the times she's made me feel awful, she can still surprise me. Love and stunt double sightings, Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.lynch at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 10:26:47 2001 From: g.lynch at xxx.com (Grainne Lynch) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 02:26:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: For MyMomSays and in memory of my dog Message-ID: Last Sunday Lucy died. I'm not sure how to react to the death of a family pet, but I did dream about her last week and I woke feeling at odds with the world. She has left a gap. We'd had her for over ten years so I pretty much grew up with her as my pet. I have a million mermories of her.She used to sleep on my bed sometimes and I'd curl up beside her, and at night or in the morning she'd get under the covers with me and curl up at my belly. She was able to catch food in her mouth, but as she got older she lost that trick. She used to stand in the backgarden and scratch her back on a branch of a tree, and sigh with pleasure. She would grab the post as it came through the letter box and scatter it around the hall. I have letters and postcards with teeth marks in them. Then she'd want to tear dowm the driveway after the postman. When she was younger she'd play football, which involved Lucy standing over the ball and barking when anyone tried to kick it. When we moved house she spent two days barking outside the door in the rain, because she wasn't allowed in the new house. She had the softest ears - they were like velvet. When you rubbed her, she'd sit down and give you one paw and then the other. She used to prick up her ears at the weird noises on Doctor Who. She didn't like mushrooms, but would eat the raspberries off the bush. She was able to curl up on the kitchen chairs and when you told her to move, she'd just wag her tail. Now she's gone. I know this because I saw my mother bury her. She was more upset than I was, almost in tears, and she made me go inside. Gr�inne. Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Sep 24 11:35:30 2001 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Chris Stride) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:35:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to indie-pop-punk tunes as Offbeat returns Message-ID: .... This Tuesday and 5 more times before Christmas *(apologies to anyone who receives this message more than once!)* OFFBEAT - a real indiepoppunk night....... with late bar, free lollipops, stickers and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... Tuesday 25th September Friday 5th October Friday 19th October Friday 2nd November Friday 23rd November Friday 14th December Playing......Classic leftfield Indie, Punk POP, lo-fi, C86, new indiepop underground sounds,... 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 19:41:03 2001 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (joanna tsoni) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:41:03 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Sinister activities in Athens Message-ID: >DAHLING: >How do I begin to describe possibly the best night >I�ve ever spent in this crazy city? And how do I >explain the significance of a little �Belle and >Sebastian� tribute night to those of you who are lucky >enough to have Belle and Sebastian as a casual part of >everyday life - who hear their songs on the radio, in >clubs, who spot other fans in the supermarket or at >picnics? Well, I�ve enlisted the help of my lovely >fellow listee and partner in crime, Ms. Joan of Dark >herself. >Gosh, I think this might be my first post with actual >content. Imagine. >Let�s begin. >When I moved here four months ago I suspected I would >be entering a musical wasteland devoid of indie >activity. But I never expected that the sightings of >corduroys and shaggy hair would be quite so few and >far between. In fact, it took two months for me to see >my first Greek punk among the masses of twiggy girls >and slick boys in skin-tight spandex trousers or >jeans, and I don�t think I ever saw anyone of the >romulan-haired or twee variety. The only half-way >decent radio station still plays Slayer and Britney >Spears in between the occasional Low and Tindersticks >song. >So imagine my surprise when my roommate ran in the >front door Saturday waving a TimeOut-esque music >listings magazine I had never seen before, pointing to >a listing for a Belle and Sebastian night at a local >club, organized by the band�s official fan club, >Wandering Days. WHAT? Athenian FAN CLUB??? Where the >hell have the other Athenian Belle and Sebastian fans >been hiding? As far as I knew there were only four or >five other fans in the entirety of Greece. I suspected >maybe there were a few more, but I sure as hell had no >idea where to find them. And here they were, >organizing an INDIE NIGHT! Insane! >So I called Joanna immediately, of course. We made >arrangements and before we knew it, we were meeting at >a subway station, squealing in unconcealed glee. I >actually believe Joanna was bouncing. I was too, >inside. Outside, I was still a bit knackered from a >week of entertaining my parents, but no lack of sleep >or sanity would have kept me away. Oh no. I was >fantasizing about this fabulous homey place where all >these Greek indie kids would be floating around in a >contented nirvana, meeting each other and having a >generally fantastic time. And I would finally meet the >elusive bunch of OTHER B&S FANS! >We found our way to the club in the nearby university >area, pressed up against the foot of one of the many >hills of Athens. It was early yet. We peeked inside, >but the place was pretty much empty. So we wandered >for some water, returned, perched higher on the hill >where we could keep the door in sight and watch for >the first sight of OTHER B&S FANS. We sat for what >seemed like an eternity along a wall near a smelly, >overflowing dumpster (the trash workers were on strike >last week), and gossiped a bit. Every time someone >walked by we stopped talking and tried to assess - >fan? Random schmuck? I think we were unclear as to >what form a fan might take. Eventually we saw FOUR >people enter at around 11 p.m. or so and we took it as >our cue to go in ourselves. >The club was quite cozy - a renovated old apartment >with four rooms, one with a bar, where were promptly >sat down. There were two girls in typical indie garb >-old Johnny-collar t-shirts - manning the CD player. >There were two older men sitting in front of them, >chatting and sneaking looks at us. There was a group >of three regular-looking twenty-somethings hidden away >in the corner of another room. That was about it. For >at least half an hour. Later, two other older men >joined the crew. There was no B&S coming from the >sound system. We sipped at our Amstel and Gin and >Tonic very slowly, thinking perhaps we had mixed up >the dates or something. But we spotted a B&S postcard, >and later a bag of badges. Joanna got up the courage >to approach the DJ girls and talk to them while I was >on my mobile, and she came back with badges and two >fan club sign-up forms. People started to trickle in >while we racked our brains on the question: �Other >favorite bands.� Other bands? What? There�s more than >B&S? Oh, right. Ha! >The Stars of Track and Field came on and we called the >esteemed Mr. Chu to squeal inaudibly and listen to his >lovely accent. >We moved to another room, where we sat in a dark >corner watching an older gay man in a bright orange >t-shirt pace in and out about 50 times in a very >strange and amusing way. A few other people came in >and went to the bar. Things were not looking >encouraging. No one was mingling. There was hardly any >B&S being played. In between the occasional B&S song >was spattered a completely random array of music, most >of which I had never heard. It certainly did not sound >very B&S-esque. We agreed we would make much better >DJs. >Eventually, we decided to make a fateful trip back to >the bar. When we did, we saw all these people that had >somehow managed to sneak past us, even though we had >been staring directly at the door for an hour. Among >them was a guy Joanna vaguely knew from university. >There were a few speedy introductions to his big group >of friends, and within minutes, we were swallowed up >into them. >Two insane members of this group, one with an enormous >head of fuzzy hair and goggling eyes that concocted in >the strangest expressions, took it upon themselves to >entertain me. One put an arm around me and led me into >the other room, where he went off on a five-minute >tirade about a philosophy he had just developed about >the individualism of language and communication, and >its impact in an international climate of >change�or�something like that. The other then stole me >away and started using big words ending in -ation. It >was a little dance that was repeated over and over >again all night. >�STACEY!� one would begin, head leaning forward in >what I assumed - and hoped - was a drunken stupor, >�come HERE, what are you doing there alone! Let me >tell you about our cooperation in this evil battle >against Bin Laden. Come, dance. Joanna, what are you >DOING?� >They were clearly mad. But entertaining. At this >point, we had to move to another room because the >group was growing in size and activity and could not >be contained at the bar. Joanna was also getting >pulled away randomly by other members of the group, >and she would turn around occasionally to make sure I >wasn�t being carried off somewhere. She would come >over, laughing hysterically, offering to rescue me as >I got led by both arms in circles, sets of slurring >lips pressed to each ear, listening to some insane >story about Greek gospel singers. >I believe the dancing began in earnest shortly >thereafter. The two crazy boys obviously also had >crazy dances as well, which I managed to avoid. In >fact, I managed to avoid most dancing for awhile. We >were quite a scene, we were. And it was just so silly >that I didn�t even care. The crazy boys made the place >seem so much less intimidating. Eventually, after >another drink and a few especially fantastic songs, I >joined Joanna on the dance floor. Joanna, by the way, >is quite a dancer. Adorable, as always. She had quite >a few fans, I dare say. But I�ll return to that later. >It was much fun. I believe I even did the Molly >Ringwald. Yup. And whenever a B&S song was played, >Joanna and I would bounce about singing every lyric. >Actually, here�s the semi-disappointing thing, we were >the ONLY ones singing every lyric. And people were >staring at us in wonder, and I don�t think it was just >because we were with this big wacky group and were the >only ones dancing. They seemed intrigued and maybe >impressed at our lyrical knowledge. Hmm. So maybe we >didn�t really see any big fans after all. But it >didn�t matter. >Eventually, the crazy boys left, and we danced with >other boys in the group, including two cuties - one >who was moving to Wales the very next day, go figure. >Other boys also joined the dancing. Among them was a >group of indie boys who looked like they walked >straight off the pages of MOC! Joanna spoke to one, >who she had seen earlier on the subway and was >convinced would be there. It was so much fun! Can I >say that enough? No. >I guess it should be said here that we were the only >two girls dancing, which may explain the following. >But perhaps not. A sketchy older man entered the club >- there always has to be one, eh - and quickly >stationed himself very close to Joanna. He was STARING >in a very lecherous way, and following her around. >Ack! He later approached us as we took a break near a >window. �Belle and Sebastian is a very good group, no? >Is your friend from somewhere else? Where?� (Was I >that obviously a foreigner? Maybe it was the dancing. >Or the crazy English rants of my insane new pals.) >Joanna tried to be as rude as possible and he left. >But he returned later to tell her she was the pop >girl, and he would writer her a poem! My god. It was a >very strange poem, of course. The guy was obviously >COMPLETELY out of it. He later decided that dancing in >a very strange way by himself in the middle of our >dance floor was the way to our hearts. Right. Anyway, >the whole incident made us bond that much more with >our new group of friends. And we danced some more, >until it was nearly 4 a.m. when Joanna really had to >go. But I think we both could have stayed there, >dancing. The boys escorted us out and partly home. We >exchanged email addresses with one of the cuties, and >were invited out again next Sunday for �post modern >night� or something. We floated the rest of the way in >a giddy state, agreeing that it was the most fun >either of us has had in a long while. >Okay, I�m going to shut up now and send this along to >Joanna so she can get a word or two in. Maybe, if >you�re extra nice, she�ll share the contents of her >lovely poem. Hehehe. JOAN OF DARK: ...so hear goes my bit....although i am well aware of the length of this post and that prolly even the few people that have managed to reach this point they'll abandon the ship this very moment.... "Thou Art The PoP gIrL And I Shalt Write You A Poem" these are the very words of the nobly drunk and hallucinating probably 40 something weirdo that approached me last night at Decadence and whispered them with a silly grin in my ear as i was dancing my brains out.... "HuH??" you 'll say, and this is what i said too.... " I shall write a poem for you cos the way you dance is an inspiration for everybody in this room..."<----weirdo "Huh Huh??????" <----me so he withdraws and scribbles something on a scrap of paper... after a while and while i was sitting, exchausted on the floor he came again and proudly gave me his work of art.... (please keep in mind that this is a product of severe alcoholism, overdose of drugs and long term sexual deprivation) "You move enormously(???) and your eyes dance graceously like the lull of the nettle's earrings swinging in the breeze but when on the grass you sleep, your beloved with poppies drip droplets of sweat and cigarettes(joints perhaps??)hover in the air like butterflies...." ....surrealism....ouch!..... so i said thanks mate , besides this is the first time i am the muse of an artist of such intellect...... last night i rediscovered the art and pleasure of Dancing. Oh Dog...havent danced in like months and now i went for straight 4 nonstop hours of PoP surrounded by cuuute boys in striped shirts...*giggle* dancing pop and tango and twist and shake , even the Indian Rain Dance.... How legs flow on the dance floor, how the body glides and slides between the auras and fluorescent glow of other dancers. When you half close your eyes and you get high on Pure Music when the last fibre of your body gets synchronised....and when you concentrate on that pair of eyes in front of you and the whole world spins around you....the whole world revolves around the mirrorball..... this morning the songs of belle and sebastian did not sound the same on my headphones....they were different..they had swollen and had risen from their humbleness....they were blasted on speakers last night and filled time and space on a 4x5 dancefloor Belle and sebastian were not a figment of my imagination. A whispered secret. A complex ideology, hard to explain. They were walking proudly down the street in my head, chins up! And Stacey, my lovely Stacey , that underwent the Indian dance of rain with the loony guys and all the pulling around, finally i managed to prove to her that Athens was not just what looks like to the casual onlooker...there is something different deep down..not just tight trousers and dyed hair...as the fuzzyhairybrain guy wxclaimed last night improvising a rap song: "STACEY STAY!!!!" Btw: she's such a pleasant and happy person that can take away all your troubles with just one look of her gorgeous eyes.... i prolly dont make much sense..but for once in my life i am truly exilerated...really happy...*joanna is bouncing on her chair* sorry for the tremendous lenght of this...for any psychological traumas it might have caused you....in any case yer all invited to the post-podern night at Decadence club, Voulgaroktonou + Poulxerias 69 next Sunday around midnight!! ta ra! Stacey + Joan PS:And Mr Brierley Random, since you got a mobile, high time you messaged (or massaged, it's all the same) me dont you think? >===== >Stacey Shackford >Amoriou 14-16 >112 51 Athens, GREECE >+30 97 328 9719 >www.geocities.com/dahling007 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troy at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 20:27:30 2001 From: troy at xxx.com (troy hakala) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:27:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S EP#2 & Reindeer Section Message-ID: <20010924122729.A7062@seattle.recipezaar.com> I'm probably WAY out of the loop on this, but.... I just saw on Amazon B&S' "TBA -- EP #2" due out Oct 23. What's the deal on this? And any info on Reindeer Section? Sounds great. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zorba at xxx.uk Mon Sep 24 20:19:59 2001 From: zorba at xxx.uk (zorba at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:19:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Strokes - no thanks! Message-ID: <200109241920.f8OJK0O23705@mail.redbricks.org.uk> yep lawrence, i'll back you up! the strokes ARE kinda shit. in my shop we play a variety of music (i'm supposed to play world music only really, but after listening to some of those albums for over a year you do get a bit fed up with them). the assistant manager is a big b&s fan too, which is good so we both enjoy listening to them. but he's also into the manics, so plays them too, which is not so good. but anyway onto the strokes . . . . i listened to their album twice over the other week and it was boring and droney. television they aint. velvet underground - uh-uh *shakes head violently. about as much fun as listening to gay dad - probably. or maybe these animal men. another band NME decided to make big & then break. no more strokes in my shop. now where did i put my Parliament album . . . ? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From beautifulconfusion at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 22:09:12 2001 From: beautifulconfusion at xxx.com (lindsey baker) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you're lying as you confess Message-ID: <30690092.1001365752638.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> i used to think this was a forbidden paradise of people i wanted to be like and stories i should have a byline at the top of and a couch i could take naps upon, as soon as neil the cartoonist vacated the goose-patterned cushions. now i know it's really just a wasteland of empty pop cans and half-filled steno books, governed by four kids wearing gap sweaters, wanting to be adults and professionals and something to compete with but really just trying to pass econ. the newsroom has started to make me sad. and i have started to wonder if i want to be a part of it. or maybe just a part of this one. do things change after school? does the lost feeling go away? i'm sitting here waiting for calls. and i spend my life doing this. even outside of work, which is quite the frightening and different story. i know i can write, yes, that's evidenced. but reporting is black lately, and i'd raher have red feelings about what i do. perhaps i only feel this way because i've just been upset as of late. lost was a good word. i feel like i belong at the paper sometimes, and at the coffee house sometimes, and at home sometimes and in myself sometimes. but i haven't found where i belong all times. i joined sinister and ventured into #sinister for the same reason. to be maybe something to something. and i fit in here sometimes. but i think there's always someone just a little bit better, just a little bit more of what the people look for. and i see them here. so maybe that's why i write the people i do, to hope i see what i have in me to be what the people look for. hmmm. or maybe i should just accept being a lurker. popping out now and again to complain. and then go away and wait for calls, for the whole world is a wasteland these days. loulou _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vertigo-junkie at xxx.com Mon Sep 24 21:00:43 2001 From: vertigo-junkie at xxx.com (vertigo-junkie at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:00:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Strokes - no thanks! Message-ID: First time posting.... Listen to it a few more times. It took a few times to grow on me and now I think it's the best album out there. I don't like comparing bands to other bands. It only leads to disapointment, especially if you are/were really into them. The Velvets, I agree... no way. Television.. same. They are The Strokes and they count for themselves. If they sounded like the Velvets then I would say they're ripping off the Velvets. The singer does sound like Lou Reed sometimes but...... zorba at redbricks.org.uk wrote: > yep lawrence, i'll back you up! the strokes ARE kinda shit. in my shop we play a variety of music (i'm supposed to play world music only really, but after listening to some of those albums for over a year you do get a bit fed up with them). the assistant manager is a big b&s fan too, which is good so we both enjoy listening to them. but he's also into the manics, so plays them too, which is not so good. but anyway onto the strokes . . . . i listened to their album twice over the other week and it was boring and droney. television they aint. velvet underground - uh-uh *shakes head violently. about as much fun as listening to gay dad - probably. or maybe these animal men. another band NME decided to make big & then break. no more strokes in my shop. now where did i put my Parliament album . . . ? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LilGrape25 at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 00:30:24 2001 From: LilGrape25 at xxx.com (LilGrape25 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:30:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: There are some days that sparkle, days like diamonds Message-ID: <146.2170829.28e11c11@aol.com> And the day I got my Sinister voice is one of them! Well hello Sinister! I'm Rachel (yes, yet another) and I'm straight out of the nursery just a few hours ago. This is my first post! eek! I haven't felt this excited in a while. To think that I have the same Sinister rights now as all the people who's e-mails I feel like I've been reading forever, people who seem so overwhelmingly interesting...maybe I'll get lucky and someone will mistake me for one of them. I know this is a bit late, but I'd like to thank all of you for your wonderful e-mails on the WTC attack a few weeks ago. I live in NYC, and found them extremely insightful and comforting. Luckily, everyone I know and love is alright. The city, besides the annoyingly fake patriatism, is a better place to live than ever. People are the slightest bit nicer. I'm listening to Overcome By Happiness by the Pernice Brothers for the first time in quite a while. I don't know what to think of it, do any of you have any opinions? A few weeks ago my friend Hye Min posted that her friend Rachel (me!) was in the Nursery. She told you all to say hello. None of you did, but I'm not surprised. I don't think I would have either. But anyway, I'm going to continue the chain and tell you all to say hello to my (and soon to be all of your) friend Max, who is in the Nursury now. Well, I've got a Spanish test tommorrow that won't study for itself, unfortunately. I'm really nervous that my first post isn't up to snuff...but what can I do? Who am I trying to impress anyway, I'm just sending a very long e-mail off into space for lots of nice seeming strangers to read. Goodbye, Rachel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starblood at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 01:24:00 2001 From: starblood at xxx.com (:: jenny darling ::) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:24:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: There are some days that sparkle, days like diamonds References: <146.2170829.28e11c11@aol.com> Message-ID: <200109250023.RAA11457@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> hello dolls! my name is jennifer, jenn, jenny depending on who and what they feel like calling me at any given time. which is fine with me as long as they call me. i have been out of the nursery forever...and i don't have much to say outside of the fact that last week and took a really bad tumble out of car. it was moving at the time. i live in kansas city as though anyone would care. and more that i can't think of at the moment.. best be getting on then jenny ps: hi max!! >On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:30:24 EDT, LilGrape25 at aol.com wrote: >>And the day I got my Sinister voice is one of them! >> >>Well hello Sinister! >> >>I'm Rachel (yes, yet another) and I'm straight out of the nursery >>just a few hours ago. This is my first post! eek! I haven't felt >>this excited in a while. To think that I have the same Sinister >>rights now as all the people who's e-mails I feel like I've been >>reading forever, people who seem so overwhelmingly >>interesting...maybe I'll get lucky and someone will mistake me for >>one of them. >> >>I know this is a bit late, but I'd like to thank all of you for your >>wonderful e-mails on the WTC attack a few weeks ago. I live in NYC, >>and found them extremely insightful and comforting. Luckily, >>everyone I know and love is alright. The city, besides the >>annoyingly fake patriatism, is a better place to live than ever. >>People are the slightest bit nicer. >> >>I'm listening to Overcome By Happiness by the Pernice Brothers for >>the first time in quite a while. I don't know what to think of it, >>do any of you have any opinions? >> >>A few weeks ago my friend Hye Min posted that her friend Rachel (me! >>) was in the Nursery. She told you all to say hello. None of you >>did, but I'm not surprised. I don't think I would have either. But >>anyway, I'm going to continue the chain and tell you all to say >>hello to my (and soon to be all of your) friend Max, who is in the >>Nursury now. >> >>Well, I've got a Spanish test tommorrow that won't study for itself, >>unfortunately. I'm really nervous that my first post isn't up to >>snuff...but what can I do? Who am I trying to impress anyway, I'm >>just sending a very long e-mail off into space for lots of nice >>seeming strangers to read. >> >>Goodbye, >> >>Rachel >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- >>-----+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >> +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper >> +-+ >> +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged >>fanbase" +-+ >> +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 >> +-+ >> +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May >>2000 +-+ >> +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 >> +-+ >> +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa >> +-+ >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- >>-----+ > > >-- > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blind_lisa at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 06:47:47 2001 From: blind_lisa at xxx.com (Rachel) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: well I like Ken Chu, I know he likes you... Message-ID: <20010925054747.79681.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again, Sinister! I know, I just posted the other day, but I have had such great responses that I just had to tell you all how kind and sensitive this group of people is... it's astounding. Also, a few other reasons to post came to mind. For one, I woke up this morning to find that I am somebody's list crush!! Until today, I had no idea what it even was... we didn't have that last time I was on Sinister! Maybe I know who has a crush on me, maybe I don't... could it be...you!? What a great way to start the day! And to Psi, well, the subject of my last post 'Crazy"Beautiful"' was indeed a clever attempt to refer to the movie, but I haven't seen the movie, so I am just a big poser! I hope that what I was trying to be clever about isn't a pile of crap. Arrrrgghhhhh! I'm obnoxious! But oh well. Kirsten Dunst sure is pretty, anyway! Now it's time for a news bulletin. A little something special I like to call ***************************** DIDN'T CHU KNOW?******************************** Ken Chu has informed me that Red Bull is a great anti-depressant that doesn't suppress your feelings :-) I don't believe it's been approved by the FDA here in the states, but it is readily available on the market, so cheer up everybody! And Ken, wait 'til you hear this, get ready to be dazzled: I have a "red bowl" haircut! errr... Congrats to Lawrence who is getting married! I'll bet you'll have them play "Bridge Over Troubled Water" at your wedding, eh?! I guess your bride won't make her entrance to Ted Nugent, dance with her father to Def Leppard, grab a mouse and then procede to squeeze the life out of it!!!! (for real, Kara?! That's so... sad) I've enjoyed all of the pet stories: johnjohn and his cat, Kirsten spotting a man with a cocatoo on his shoulder, Mandee and Reggie the dog, Grainne and Lucy the dog... So sorry about your dogs... I also have a pet, a cat, named Agnes, who is 15 and arthritic. It's so strange how animals are such a huge part of many of our lives, and they are mainly there for our entertainment, unless you're blind or disabled and have one to help you! But we still miss them so much when they're gone. I wonder what it is like to not love animals... Stacey and Joan, rocking out in Athens!!!! RIGHT ON!!! I loved reading that!!!!!!! It was so well told, I felt like I was there with you! Guys, I'm kind of nervous about this Strokes issue... such a hot debate, so far it sounds like I wouldn't like them, so I am not rushing out to find their stuff. But what about The Faint? They are pretty cool, and they're playing here in L.A. a week from Thursday! I'd much rather faint than have a stroke any day... Loulou, you're lovely. *see "DIDN'T CHU KNOW" above* !!VIVA RACHELS!!! Another Rachel to join the ranks! I'm so excited (I know it's only a name, but it just happens to be a good one!) Welcome Rachel Grapenut, I gave a shout out to all of the Rachels on the list when I posted my B&S show review and I definitely meant you, too! Hi to Max! Cornflake and I are wondering how many more Rachels there are out there on the list, (right, rach?) so if you're a Rachel, send me a note! I haven't heard from you yet, Archel! In other RACHEL news, Ulla has posted a Sillustration about Rachel Cornflake's experience being the 9th member of B&S for 3 minutes!!! It's really adorable, so you should go to the Sinister site and look at it right now! How do you suppose on this short west coast tour, Stuart managed to ask 2 Rachels onto the stage in 2 different cities? I have never "met" this many Rachels in my life! Jenny Darling, please tell us how you fell out of a moving car!? I hope you're ok! That's pretty much all I have to say, except for thank you for your kind words of encouragement. It really does help. Love to you all, Rachel Fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 07:20:42 2001 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:20:42 Subject: Sinister: Go and buy Dead Media by Hefner today Message-ID: Let's all give a big hug to our main man Lawrence Mikkelsen! He was the first one here to step out from the crowd and had the nerve to announce that maybe The Strokes really aren't that great. If I weren't heterosexual I'd give you my body as a reward. But really, 33 minutes of music that is ok but nothing more. "Ooh, but the boys are really cute!" Yes, but have you ever read their interviews? It's always bad when the people who are hailed as the new everything actually believe they are cooler than all the other bands in the world combined. Kick them in the head, I say. So my crusade against people who try too hard to be stylish and rawk continues. What you should do, though, is to buy Dead Media by Hefner. Analogue synthesizers, the same old groove, perfect album. Ace. And finally I get to hear The Nights Are Long in cd- form, rather than the wobbly taperecording from Peely. My favourite line: And since my honey moved, To the south side of town. Been hearing ugly rumours, She's been putting it around. Now there's a line I can.... Naah, it just sound great. -JF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 08:49:58 2001 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:49:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: glasgow, edinburgh etc. Message-ID: hi everyone, i'm sorry this didn't take the normal 15+ minutes, but i'm in a bit of a hurry. i just wanted to tell people from glasgow and edinburgh that i'm here in edinburgh and i'll be in glasgow in a few days. i'm studying at the art school this fall (i'm from the u.s.). i think it would be fun to meet up sometime once i get settled into my apartment in glasgow this weekend, so if anyone is from there, maybe email me or something. recovering from jet lag, andrea http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay (completely updated and new) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memolabels at xxx.dk Tue Sep 25 10:28:01 2001 From: memolabels at xxx.dk (John Hyllegaard) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:28:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Reindeer Section Message-ID: <004101c145a4$5f32c380$fb7b3e50@c6z0h1.opasia.dk> Well - yesterday I was visiting my local record-pusher, and was half a minute from buying Angels Of Lights new album, but my girlfriends eye caught a small labels on a record on the listening post... "featuring members of Arab Strap, Astrid, Belle & Sebastian, Eva, Mogwai, Mull Historical Society, Snow Patrol, V Twin" - I immedeately skipped the Gira-album and bought the title called "Y'all get scared now, ya hear!" instead (It's late in the month£- ya know) I have to admit... I'm embarrased. After the wonderful multilayered beauty of Snow Patrol's latest album - the deep, dark soul within Arab Straps The Red Thread and good 2001-efforts by both Astrid and Mogwai this is just not to believe. Despite the wonderful last minute of "If There Is I Havent Found It Yet" and the wonderful up-to-standard "Sting", the album is filled with too low-key and boring performances from some of the most talented musicians these days. Just my opinion after four listenings...; And now the recommendation: Has anybody heard of Lift To Experience?... I think that they maybe have made the album of the year; It's the power of GYBE, the beauty of Jeff Buckley and the beast of My Bloody Valentine put into one conceptual album of both borrowed and new developed genius. So much from Denmark this time... PS: Does anybody knows, when the B&S music from the new Todd Solondz film will be released? So long - and don't get scared now, ya'all John +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hodottir at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 13:07:14 2001 From: hodottir at xxx.com (The Hodottir) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:07:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Freeloader Section Message-ID: Hiya Folks It's been ages since I posted. It was around the 11th of September I was thinking about it, then the world stopped, so did I. Not that it's all better now, but I know I'm not alone in the determination for those who still have life to get on with living it. That's what me, Joe, Flo and Sam did last night when we, thanks to a miracle by the great God Gratis, went to see 'The Thing' concert at the Royal Festival Theatre. The Reindeer Section headlined, although typically they insisted that was a twist of scheduling, but since the run-up acts (Spearmint, Simian, others I forget) were clearly practising to be as good, it was no accident. The Reindeer Section, line-up reading like a job-centre database c.1992 proved themselves to be well worth their giros as they ebbed and flowed from pop through folk to rock. As Flo noted, the final product sounds more like a cheerful Arab Strap than anything else. Unfortunately, as yet I don't even know who's in there, although I gather B&S, Arab Strap and Alfie are all represented, and none of them is called Rudolf. Whatever, it's a perfect recipe for the ultimate folk soupergroup, and there's an irish fellow up front who prefers to finale in the nude. Let's all do our research here, and bombard The Reindeer Section with our snowballs of support. There's lots of them now, but they're gonna be even bigger, methinks. Yey new music and free tickets! Because we're worth it, Miss Ho the Hodottir x _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dahling007 at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 13:34:01 2001 From: dahling007 at xxx.com (stacey dahling) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:34:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: clear spot Message-ID: lordy lordy two posts in just as many days! can anyone tell i'm procrastinating in a huge way? indeed. it's horrid. today i made a pact with myself NOT to go into #sinister until i complete some work on this monster article i'm writing about a basketball team that dicked me over in the worst way. i have to put on my rosy-tinted glasses as i write, however, which makes me growl and mutter horrendous things to myself as i pace in my pajamas and curse the outside world as i try to find something other than rotting grapes in my empty kitchen. i console myself with the fact that after it is printed i will be able to write a note to some administrators and get an asshole fired. or at least reprimanded. yes. i'm not really a bitch, i swear. but sometimes a girl has to kick some ass, you know? ANYWAY... now that i've gotten COMPLETELY off topic here... RACHEL GRAPES DEAR! welcome! and max too i suppose :) and everyone else in nursery or lurking in the shadows reading this shite. thank you for rising above this strokes debate and mentioning my second favorite band ever - THE PERNICE BROTHERS! *sigh* (ed: warning! long pernice brothers tirade to follow, then some actual b&s content...) i actually believe it was someone from this very list here who turned me on to the pernice brothers a few years ago. i bought overcome by happiness on a whim, thinking other belle and sebastian fans in the know just cannot be wrong!, and i quickly added it to my small list of "albums i can listen to all the way through and ot get sick of" otherwise known as my desert island list. also on the list, of course, is if you're feeling sinister, portola, rushmore, classic sinatra, the source hits from the vault volume 1: the pioneers, and some heavenly album i have only on tape and can never remember the name of. anyway... after putting "all i know" on repeat for hours while sulking the summer away waiting to move from greece to rhode island to northampton, MA, i ran into my Great Indie Friend Mike, who casually informed me that mr. joe pernice LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM MY NEW NORTHAMPTON APARTMENT and that he would be performing that weekend next door. so i moved in a few days early. i stayed for TWO DAYS in an apartment with no electricity or hot water, just so i could see the pernice brothers. sacrifice. worth it! they opened for some shit band i cannot remember at this overpriced club downtown. i was THE only fan there. it was heavenly, despite the couple who talked through almost the entire set. afterwards i shyly approached joe and local-celebrity-of-sorts thom monahan and said hello. mmmm. it was later learned that joe worked directly across the street from my apartment in a music store. mike taunted me continously about how my joe pernice stalking was going, but in truth i was way too shy to attempt any stalking. see, this wasn't a cd store or anything this was a store for musical instruments, and i wouldn't even know how to begin walking in and casually browsing. truth is, joe pernice is a BIG DORK. actually, a rather short dork, of the stephen merritt variety. he's not that attractive really, and my strange obsession had nothing to do with attraction of any sort. i do not fancy joe pernice is what i'm trying to say here. but he's achieved this odd sturan-type status. as i continued to live and work in northampton, i got to know almost everyone in the local music scene. i befriended michelle, a drummer in a fantastic local band, king radio, whose husband, frank, was in the scud mountain boys, joe's previous wonderful band, and who is still a close friend. i got to know every other member of the pernice brothers, and i know every other supporting cast member of all joe's side projects. but i still CANNOT talk to joe. i think joe performs more in australia and the uk than he does in his own home town. this is because he is afraid of all the old hard-core scud mountain boys fans who are still bitter that the band broke up and blame him for it. he's afraid no one will show up at his shows, which is just silly, as they are aways packed on the rare times he takes the stage. at one performance, he was sitting alone, mournfully scanning the crowd, nursing a beer in obvious boredom. i decided to make my move. ha! i can easily talk to criminals, rapists, perverts, cops, judges, politicians, child-molesting psychologists. but five minutes with a dorky rock god is TORTURE. i have no idea what we talked about, but it was so awkward and forced. i think the topic i chose was australia. yup. dork. but he was very nice. right before i left to come to greece, like, a few nights before my flight, i went to a final show in northampton. it was a pernice brothers show. i was there with michelle, and we were quite popular. everyone came over to say goodbye to me, including a keyboarder and tambourine player from the pernice players. we hung out with joe's new girlfriend, a gorgeous tall, slim thing from nyc. joe stood with us, smiling at me, and i just stared like a fool. how does this happen??? anyway i am soooo sorry! i was intending this to be my very first short sinister post and i have just rambled on for 10 minutes about my really dorky obsession with a northampton band. egads! what i meant to say was: RACHEL, overcome by happiness is a super fantastic album!!! and if you like it, you should get "massachusetts" by the scud mountain boys. (their other albums are a bit alt-country). joe also released albums as big tobacco and chipaquiddick skyline. that's all. since i've come this far, i might as well add something b&s related. my favorite B&S album is if you're feeling sinister, and more and more lately it has become woven with greece for me. it's very odd. it all started in 1997, when i was on a plane by myself, setting off on the biggest adventure of my life, finally leaving behind everything i knew and hated and loved. my restless soul had been pulling me away for a long time and "get me away from here, i'm dying" had become my one-song soundtrack. as it played in my headphones with the plane ascending from logan airport, it never rang truer. it was a Moment. my apartment in athens was situated near a monastery, hospital, two archaeological schools, and an elementary school and as i walked under fragrant lemon trees in my new foreign home, i could hear the ringing of school children nearby and it reminded me of the opening of if you're feeling sinister. it put me instantly at ease. now, four years later, i'm back here, my back balcony overlooking a school yard where piercingly loud children gather all day long to scream and wake me up and distract me. it makes me feel a bit sinister, but in the very best way. when i was being restless in massachusetts, b&s to me represented this liberating foreign ideal place and state of mind. in some ways, i've tried to reproduce it in athens, but it's failing me at the moment. in less than a week's time, i will be in london and a few days after that in edinburgh and glasgow and leeds and sheffield and... i really can't wait. i will be with other sinister people, which seems at the same time wonderful and scary. have you ever tried to explain the sinister phenomenon to someone? isn't it difficult to describe what makes it special and ok and not scary and full of perverts and strangers? we don't feel like strangers do we? why? it's so weird. i can't understand why i feel the absolute need to spend lots of money to go meet a bunch of near strangers. they don't feel like strangers to me, they feel like friends. and the few sinisterines i have met have been almost instant friends. what is it about this band that makes nearly all its fans so gosh-darned compatible with each other? why do i spend hours bearing my soul to someone i've never met in daily 50K+ emails, but haven't written my friends back home in two months? there's so much i want to say, but i've already said too much. argh. verbosity. i've been thinking an awful lot about fate recently. it scares me, but is also oddly comforting. i have begun to think that fate had a lot to do with why i am sitting on a bed in a room in a brothel district in athens, and i've been feeling recently that i am ready to just resign myself to fate, but that feels a little bit like giving up. someone sinister also posed a simple yet way-too-complex question to me recently: what do you want? and i can't answer it! do i want people, places, a career, a future, freedom, stability, stories to tell the kids, kids? why am i still restless? who do i love? who loves me? who am i? it's tough being human, isn't it? ok, get me away from here i'm dying just came on and i want to cry! this whole album makes me want to cry. why oh why? at the final moment i cried, i always cry at endings... yes. on that note i should really end this now and get to work on the stupid goddamn article. grrrr... thanks to joanna darling for an absolutely fabulous night that i still smile about and for your super-kind words (happy and pleasant? me? oh dear). and to paul, nicholas, dafyd, will, maddie, ally, calumn, gavin, sweetie, richard, vic, honey, jeremy, ken, kev and stoo: i absolutely cannot wait to lavish you with cigarettes and ouzo and cheesy postcards, give you all bone-breaking hugs and maybe a few kisses, and drink so much i cry and tell you embarassing secrets. and warning: i plan to take lots of pictures of my obsession, which is you. to the rest of you: hello. be good. and um.. twinkies. MWAH! ~dahling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ola1212 at xxx.pl Tue Sep 25 16:24:39 2001 From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:24:39 +0200 Subject: Sinister: visions of love recollected... Message-ID: <005001c145d6$7d793d60$5f684cd5@default> dear sinister, here i am, sat at the computer in my room, desperately trying to compose an e-mail that'd make sense. perhaps i should turn my record player on and fill the air with some music? hmm... not sure that'd help. i'd just play 'eighties fan' by camera obscura for the zillionth(sic!) time in the past few days... =) (lazy and untalented people like myself will be glad to know one can play the song with just 3 chords - G, D and C! yay :) however, i *do* have a reason to post, so i'd better get on with it. exactly one month ago was a very special day for me - my first (and so far only) sinister picnic! :) i wanted to write about it sooner, but was afraid i'd include too much nonsense, because i was just *so* excited :) everything was exactly as i had imagined, everyone i talked to was really nice, WOW! it just seemed so.. unreal in a way :) i especially enjoyed the tigermilking afterwards - to see everyone dancing to music i normally go mad to alone in my room (having locked the door beforehand, naturally) was simply fantastic. :) so, a very huge 'thank you' to everyone that was there and made it special for me :) "hello, hello! i was the (perhaps a little over-excited) girl in a red top, putting a lot of effort in trying to sound english, and yet sometimes using a very obscure-sounding eastern-european language" :) *hugs everyone* i wish i could stay in london for longer, instead of having to go back to grim warsaw and my lousy school! grr. i'll be back, though, some time next year *for sure*, as i'm going to put into practice some of my Cunning Plans Of Earning Lots Of Cash To Spend On Travelling. =) i'm a little nervous that they may actually prove too cunning to ever become true (see: becoming a commercial pop singer in order to sell a lot of records and get rich; dabbling in alchemy to find out how to change stuff into gold, which would later be sold at a high price... what else can i think of during the long hours spent at school? =) oh, never mind... take care everyone, olalala -- Wygraj 2 dni extra dostepu do Big Brother nie daj sie innym wyprzedzic [ http://bigbrother.onet.pl/platnosci_info.html ] +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 17:03:14 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:03:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: My highland goat was doing fine on three red shirts from the washing line Message-ID: <69.1b785b86.28e204c2@aol.com> Hewwo, I'm 16 now. 16 whole years old, is that not grate? Now I can get a job for the weekends. I had an interview for a jewellers place last week. I think it went not too bad, but I don't know. They said they'd know who they were taking on by this week, so now every time the phone goes I jump, but I don't know. I went to Glasgow Uni open day too. It looked amazing. I want to be a dentist, but I don't want to move away from home. My home's not amazing, but I like my bedroom, which is purple, and space agey and has room for me loll about. And I don't know if (if I moved away) they'd let me take Bubbles, my goldfish, and I love him so much. He's a grate guyfish. And I like Glasgow too and East Kilbride, cause of all the places that i go, like down the glen where I have my favourite tree and stuff. I don't want to have to take years to find places like that again. Not yet. Plus another reason for not moving away is that I just helped my friend move into a student flat in Edinburgh. Her room is a box, the whole place is freezing, the kitchen looks like it was ripped out of our church hall, and oh yes, she's sharing with 4 posse girls. The posse girls didn't like me very much. Or at all really. I tried to be friendly, but they started slagging me, so I just didn't bother, and they kept saying I was really young and immature and I had no friends and one of them laughed and tried to see if there were scars from where I'd tried to slit my wrists (which I've never tried) because she said I seemed like the type. and one of them said I kept using big words. So then I beed offensive, which I can be quite good at doing sometimes, and one of them wanted to call security to have me thrown out. Because I really pose a threat to people who are bigger than me. I'm not exactly karate kid. So maybe the student life wouldn't be as grate as all that if you were stuck with people like them. No, when i leave high school all the neds and posse girls are going to leave me alone, i've decided. After all, that's the point of uni isn't it? To not get beat up? I was in Fife at the weekend too. We had this chlaymidia swab for men, which is supposed to go up someone's japs eye. It was a thing of evil. I heard a good joke about micheal jackson but I can't remember it. So, a new B&S single. That's going to be swell. I still think they should cover s club 7. I just found a use for morpheus. Downloading the spice girls. And Telstar. Life is as normal. Hard kids are being hard, purple is being swell, ribena still tastes grate, and I don't feel old. I like life. Bobby Wratten from the Field Mice stole my boyfriend. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk Tue Sep 25 16:33:07 2001 From: geoff_sheridan at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:33:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Go and buy Dead Media by Hefner today Message-ID: >What you should do, though, is to buy Dead Media by Hefner. Don't. Please don't. Please. ****FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T DO IT.**** As a fan of "Fidelity..." and "Breaking..." I'm just saying - save your money. Or if you must buy it, relieve me of the promo I bought a few days ago. Cost me £9. Yours for a fiver & an SAE. But I'm warning you, it's very bad indeed. Imagine, if you will, one of those greeting cards that plays a buzzy little version of "happy birthday". Amplify through a cheap hifi, remove all semblance of tune and loop continuously. You have, in a nutshell the first track. My favorite line? "We don't need this junk in our lives" Amen. This didn't take me *nearly* 15 mins, but the kids deserve to know. g _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 18:27:43 2001 From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i'm just your average...thundercats...ho Message-ID: <20010925172743.69008.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> hello :) ...hmmm..this is the first real oppurtunity i've had to post in a couple of weeks..i never thought full time work would be such a full-time job...i barely have time to go home and sleep before i'm up again and braving the wrath of disgruntled book club customers...people can be so RUDE sometimes...i dont mind so much though..it feels satisfying in a strange way..winters coming but i know i'm actually working towards something, saving up money and then going off to see the world for a while..staying in this town for a few more months doesnt seem so bad right now..i'm actually looking forward at the minute..ready for some kind of adventure..wow..i'm being really positive :)..i'm off sick today though, being comforted by the strange electronic sounds of the new hefner album...its quite nice i think...but maybe they're trying a bit too hard to take a different direction...listing all the gadgets they used to make the album on the inside cover is surely not neccessary...there really is no need when you can come up with such fantastic records as the fidelity wars... ...i liked the story about the belle and sebastian club night in Greece...i always seem to attract sketchy old men too...i dont think they find me attractive so i can only assume they see me as a kindred spirit, a fellow nutcase they can discuss matters of the world with which is a bit worrying...maybe i just radiate wierdo vibes..last weeks paticular lunatic was an allegedly hardcore religious fanatic who didnt drink, smoke or swear (it must have been his night off) who kept telling me how swedish people play the guitar and calling me 'rock and roll man yeah' and accused my friend of being a native indian who was wearing special contact lenses to hide 'the evil red' in his eyes...in my own small way i had a little b+s club night of my own though when i persuaded my ska-punk loving friend to play 'le pastie de la bourgeoise' at his dj night...admittidley it was just as everyone was leaving and the looks on the faces of the fourteen year old skater audience was enough to curdle milk...but i smiled and danced anyway...i felt like an elderly uncle 'grooving' at a wedding... ..on the subject of the reindeer section...i cant help loving the album...keeping in mind that it was recorded in two weeks (i think) with assorted musicians who have vastly different styles of playing and making music i think it was a pretty succesful experiment..there are more than enough decent songs on there to warrant buying it...it could have maybe been trimmed down by a few tracks..but 'nytol' and 'firebell' and 'will you please be there for me' and many others make it one of the best albums i've purchased this year...but thats just me...so actually dont bother buying it...i have terrible taste..hmmmm...i think i've gone on too long.. ta ta :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArtsyDeco at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 19:11:01 2001 From: ArtsyDeco at xxx.com (ArtsyDeco at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:11:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Put him in a body bag Jenny! Message-ID: <1e.1bc2e3c7.28e222b6@aol.com> Sorry if this is overposting, but well, the subject line had to be used, don't you see? I for one am surprised to learn that Jenowl is not karate kid. I wish she was. She could wear one of those headband thingies but instead of red circle in the middle there could be a ribena berry. And hopefully she wouldn't let Peter Cetera (shudders) sing on her soundtrack. My easy mac is finished. Watch out for cheese stains in the rest of this mail. Congratulations to Lawrence, whose name I have always liked. I'm sure his bride wouldn't be anything like Lucy the Bane of Mice, for there really is only one Lucy. Welcome to that girl in the nursery whose name I forgot and Max whose name I like. I spotted a Sarah on the bus today. I will lock all the B&S stunt doubles in a room until they form a band. Also my B&S posters, mousepad and shirt arrived yesterday. There may be more Belle and Sebastain in my room than anything else. What a good thing. Kara Jean* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 19:23:27 2001 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:23:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm just your average...thundercats...ho Message-ID: oh! moldy peaches! free show at the horseshoe! (toronto)! unfortunately they're opening for the strokes, so there will be a million people there just...i'll be nice and say just because. anyone else gonna try and get in? debx _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 19:25:11 2001 From: johnw at xxx.com (Wojcik, John) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:25:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Feminist Chicks Dig Me Message-ID: <5D0DD3CB24A6D511A9CD0008C745EA4C04ADF3@ABNYMX1> I'd like to thank everyone for a good time in San Francisco. It was really nice to meet all those gentle people all in one place. The picnic ruled. I prolly shouldn't have worn my doc martens. Too hard to run to get a dog bitten frisbee. Shout outs go out to - Bill for letting me know and taking me to the second show. I'd like to thank Kayla for the ticket, and the picnic. The person who brought the sinister cake. Not for how it tasted, but for how fertile the subject was to exercise wit. Economist conversations over orange frappes and coffee. Renee Foucalt It was the last time I felt normal since I was at the airport, September 11th. I checked in for my 8am flight and the woman behind the counter was talking about a fire at the Pentagon. I got on the internet and my friends were talking about lower Manhattan being gone. The airport bar was the only place with a TV, so I did the only sensible thing, sat down and ordered a Guiness. I'm back now, in New York. The trip back brought me through Yosemite, Tonopah, NV and Salt Lake City and towns with a population of 164. Clear air and desert mountains that are actually farther away than they appear. I bought twine beaded jewelry from a punk chick who wants to be a deisel mechanic. I heard stories about the blood feud between the Cambells and the McDonalds from a real live Scotsman, kilt and all, with the similar problem of trying to find a decent drink in the middle of Mormon country. I ate meat served from swords. I found bleached bones in the desert. Talked about the Bouncing Souls crushing bottle caps with a blue haired boy. A snowboard chick remembered me from eating raw fish. The trip back was really amazing, but the reasons for the path chosen unfortunate. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fezzywig at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 18:42:10 2001 From: fezzywig at xxx.com (Tim Banning) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:42:10 Subject: Sinister: On the subject of Brian Wilsons poo and the strokes. Message-ID: Hello, first off, I cried with laughter when I read the story about cleaning brian wilson's poop. I printed it and imidiatley read it to my family who loved it as well. Then on the subject of The Strokes....well, my friend, has been telling me how great the band White Stripes is. Well on the other hand, I've been getting emails from you all on how great (or not) The Strokes are. Somehow in my wierd little head, I got White Stripes and the Strokes confused. So yesterday when I go over to my friends house to watch "state and main" I ask him about if he has The Strokes. He just looks at me like i'm crazy. "what?" "The Strokes, you were talking about them yest- oh shit, you were talking about White Stripes..." boy did I feel weird. Then I asked him about the Webb Brothers and everything was cool. But I'm glad I didn't go out and buy the strokes thinking it was white stripes. shit. this is weird. Hey, have you all checked out www.zoetrope.com. Every one of you should. just look at it and see. well, thats all for now, take care. tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 18:44:56 2001 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:44:56 Subject: Sinister: bigtime devestasion Message-ID: shite i'm in deep trouble the lad i was staying with in uk on the 12th to 14th of october cant have me there now,he had to work..so during the weekend new order play i am left with nowhere to stay and tehrefore probably no new order gig..shite and no new order at all...fuck .. hmm so i am devestated..i really wanted to go an extra weekend hugs rebecka crying some.. any sweet sole who has an tiny tiny sofa for me to sleep on..gees this is tearing me apart http://hem.passagen.se/beckygirl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r_gillanders at xxx.com Tue Sep 25 21:11:52 2001 From: r_gillanders at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20Gillanders?=) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:11:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: my head is my only house unless it rains Message-ID: <20010925201152.74632.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> 'clear spot' ain't so bad. I prefer the don van vliet yin. to the pernice brothers yin. or even the stacey shackleford yin. I thought about things that had been. a few days ago. I did the thinking. the things had been. a while before that. I knew the lights didn't always have to be off. and in the end they weren't. but it was the end. and I had to leave. now. there was more socialising. I'm not quite used to it yet. but I might be getting better. sometimes I have nothing to say. I appear rude. no doubt. talking briefly about odysseus' home. an island that could be reached by foot. and men at work. both varieties. there are only two? but in different rooms. with 'when I'm 64' on the way. among others. and getting home at quarter to three. it was a coincidence. but there was no coincidence. of the line and the getting. it had passed and I think I heard jim o'rourke as I pulled into the driveway. it isn't any good if you feel bad because someone annoys you. like you feel bad because you got annoyed. the song 'here come the warm jets' makes me want some ice cream. there must be an explanation. I actually know the reason. and I don't think it makes me silly. I foundandfinished 'the third policeman' and enjoyed it very much. there's the 'golden hours' connection to brian eno. and it seems like brian stole a phrase from one of the one-legged men for that one. 'blank frank'. a man with a wooden leg named finnucane. dick van dyke would probably have something to say about that. I'll take better care with my modifier placements. or maybe I won't. I confuse myself. I've been enjoying 'diagnosis murder' recently. why? life without buildings again. tomorrow. even if it isn't really feasible. better than life without talent. and we all know what equals that. or I do. at any rate. last week there was tracer beforehand. I don't know how. someone said. 'they're from belfast.'. and it put a whole new perspective on it. I forget just how. just now. the last song lasted longer than the lot they played before it lumped together. ludicrous. before them there was a lady [on closer inspection] with a personal computer trying to redo the 'williams mix'. or something else. that doesn't really sound like the 'williams mix'. and sounds more like the aphex twin. on further reflection I quite enjoyed her. show. I'm all for making sense. don't stop. it. richard. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Intellectualvoid at xxx.com Wed Sep 26 06:59:15 2001 From: Intellectualvoid at xxx.com (Intellectualvoid at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 01:59:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: Feminist Chicks Dig Me Message-ID: <114.511e8e2.28e2c8b3@aol.com> Hello All. Very well said John, and lovely subject line, by the way. I happen to have a swell picture of this sinister looking cat wearing a t-shirt that says the same thing. How bizarre is that? Kudos to everyone who made it to the picnic. And everyone who *made* the picnic. Kayla, that pasta salad was a thing of beauty, and the sinister cake. . . well I've got a fine picture of that masterpiece somewhere, if I do say so myself. One of these days I'll actually hook up my scanner and get those pics posted in a conspicuous place, for all those who care to witness the glory of the San Francisco Sini-Picnic. It was glorious, and good to meet you all. Even, and especially, the lovely non-sinister Christina who's brilliance shone through when she suggested we eat the sini-cake to A Century of Fakers. Never has a cake had a finer, more apt, musical accompaniment. Though I've not posted on the subject, I do want to say, now that the strange fog of shock has lifted, that Sinister has been a remarkable place in the past few weeks. Not that it wasn't remarkable prior to the WTC crap, but, so rarely do you find solace when it's truly needed, and I have to say, we're one hell of a mailing list. I do have a strange and abiding love for you all. A heartfelt *thanks*, followed by a sigh. Cornflake Girl - woman! You did well! I wish I had a picture of you onstage, you lucky girl. Alas, I don't. Good work nonetheless. The shows were brilliant, of course. Absolutely. I won't go on about it. But, I'm very very happy. Well. Back to studying. Just a little missive to the masses. And John, I can't remember that book you suggested, something about . . . well, I can't remember, can I? It was right after Foucault. If you can remember, let me know offlist. Much Sini-Love, S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 26 13:18:09 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:18:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Go and buy Dead Media by Hefner today(sorry) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010926121809.74719.qmail@web14908.mail.yahoo.com> sorry about two posts. I slipped. I agree with G. What a waste of time. Please Darren stop now. Leave me with my memories.Please. PLEASE. Joxx ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jo_is_18 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 26 13:16:27 2001 From: jo_is_18 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=20tomas?=) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:16:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Go and buy Dead Media by Hefner today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010926121627.12454.qmail@web14910.mail.yahoo.com> --- Geoff Sheridan wrote: > >What you should do, though, is to buy Dead Media by > Hefner. > > Don't. Please don't. > Please. > > ****FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T DO IT.**** > > As a fan of "Fidelity..." and "Breaking..." I'm just > saying - save > your money. Or if you must buy it, relieve me of the > promo I bought a > few days ago. Cost me £9. Yours for a fiver & an > SAE. > > But I'm warning you, it's very bad indeed. Imagine, > if you will, one > of those greeting cards that plays a buzzy little > version of "happy > birthday". Amplify through a cheap hifi, remove all > semblance of tune > and loop continuously. You have, in a nutshell the > first track. My > favorite line? > > "We don't need this junk in our lives" > > Amen. > > This didn't take me *nearly* 15 mins, but the kids > deserve to know. > > > g > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail > sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly > deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - > NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List > organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" > - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee > kwa +-+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== small town night club over a pub/girls in make up thicken the blood ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chickfactor at xxx.uk Wed Sep 26 15:49:27 2001 From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:49:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: poor little strokes Message-ID: <200109261449.HAA31916@mail4.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From chinacat81 at xxx.com Wed Sep 26 15:44:50 2001 From: chinacat81 at xxx.com (Kirsten Kenyon) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:44:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i can obey all of your rules and still be me Message-ID: <61B7BE191833AC44294244244BAC2873@chinacat81.wildmail.com> hmm....so my mom just called, pretty much telling me that she's sick of me and wants me to "get out." i don't really see what i've done wrong, seeing as i'm never even home when she's here and when i am she's not awake, but she sounded pissed off so i guess i'll take her advice. i have a feeling that my parents are experiencing growing frustration at the fact that they have no idea what i'm up to most of the time. and they're raging mad that i don't go to church with them. so.......anyone need a roommate? heh. at least this could be a lovely opportunity to get out of here. oooh oooh maybe it could be a contest, like a coloring contest and if you win, you get to have ME stay at your house and cook dinner and mow the lawn and i'd be a nice drinking buddy. umm...okay, maybe that's the booby prize. speaking of prizes....i was in a big wheel race at a halloween block party when i was five. my brother, 3, took first place and won a one-pound bag of m&ms, and i got really angry and jealous and took off running home in the dark and made it about two blocks before some big kids came around the corner and one of them ran over me with his bicycle. so i had to go stumbling back to the block party with bloody little knees and scraped little hands, crying and looking for my mommy. and my brother shared his m&ms. and even at that age, i felt like a complete idiot. i don't know. love to you all. xoxo kirsten Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9804630C at xxx.uk Wed Sep 26 16:49:04 2001 From: 9804630C at xxx.uk (Aileen Elizabeth Campbell) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:49:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reindeer section Message-ID: Is anyone going to see the reindeer section tonight in the QMU in Glasgow? I think there is only a limited amount of tickets left. I have not read many of the last lot of messages as I`ve been away so sorry if this has already been discussed. Cheerio Aileen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david-a-simpson at xxx.net Wed Sep 26 19:33:06 2001 From: david-a-simpson at xxx.net (David Simpson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:33:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Strokes Message-ID: <006e01c146b9$c7be0de0$bd10383e@oemcomputer> Hi Some of us like The Strokes and others don't. Could we please just agree to that, and stop arguing over whether they're brilliant or awful. Er, for what it's worth, I likes 'em, but I've long been a sucker for that brand of raunchy Noo Yawk rock'n'roll. David A +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kdavis at xxx.com Wed Sep 26 19:38:21 2001 From: kdavis at xxx.com (Keith Davis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:38:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I'm about to have a stroke! Message-ID: <3BB2209D.A5B6011@netopia.com> I'm sorry have I been propelled into an alternate universe? (In a very sarcastic tone) Is this the Belle and Sebastian mailing list or is it for the Strokes? A bit confused :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lulou at xxx.org Wed Sep 26 21:15:21 2001 From: lulou at xxx.org (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:15:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List mum message - please read Message-ID: <004701c146c7$f8990a60$0300a8c0@crockery> Hi everyone List rules message!! There are a lot of new people on sinister and welcome to you all. I, in case you don't know, help Honey out with running the list, and we try to make it a good place to live. This is a mailing list for the band Belle and Sebastian and their fans, and is not only to talk about Belle and Sebastian, although it is nice when that happens. The list has been going for 4 years and has always had lovely posts from lovely people, and many people have made good friends here. However, one list rule is paramount. A list implodes when it starts to discuss itself, and it has always been a rule on sinister that there should be no discussion of list content on the list itself. If you have been on other lists which have gone bad, then you will appreciate why this is a good rule. If you have a problem with something on the list, mail Honey or myself and we will try to sort it out. If you don't like one particular topic, the best way to counteract this is to start another you are interested in. A second good rule is please remember there are nearly 1500 people on the list, and anything you write will not only be read by them but will also be kept in the archives for all eternity. Some time and effort put into a post will reap rewards...posts which say simply say "I agree" or "I disagree", quoting the above post, don't really make very interesting reading, if there are lots of them. Try to use the15 minutes Sir Cliff Richard or the Dalai Lama expect and the list will still be the lovely place it has always been. I always say in these cases, I am not getting at anyone in particular. Please don't feel that the finger is pointing to you. There has just been a wee trend towards list content/short posts recently. On a nice note, Honey says that the photo gallery is fixed and the archive (4 years worth) is fixed (good for checking if something has been done-to-death before, or if you really *did* say you liked Babylon Zoo in 1997), but there is still a problem with the search engine, but Honey has the plumbers in to look at it. Oh, and A Taste of Honey is on Carlton Cinema in the UK at 11pm. If you haven't seen it, it is a brilliant film, and worth paying for repeats of The Bill the rest of the time. Linda Surrogate List Aunt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dirtyvicar at xxx.net Wed Sep 26 22:04:03 2001 From: dirtyvicar at xxx.net (Dirty Vicar) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Final Countdown Message-ID: Hello everyone, It is time for another of my mails. I went to the Reindeer Section last Saturday, they were playing in Dublin's Ambassador Cinema, where I saw the Star Wars films when I was small. As it turned out I was the only person there who had paid to see them, the city being awash with free tickets on the day, complete strangers liable to approach you trying to them away. Audiences of freeloaders can often be rather tiresome, inclined to pour drink into themselves and talk loudly rather than pay attention, but thankfully these freeloaders seemed to be acutally reasonably into the music. Which was nice. The Section had had a lot to drink before playing, and many of them continued drinking through the show. Belfast Bobby enjoyed many swigs from his wine bottle, and Mr Snow Patrol kept telling us how drunk he was, which was very helpful. He also moaned repeatedly about his crackly monitor, like any of us gave two fiddlesticks. But when they actually played it was all very nice, a kind of big, beefed up Snow Patrol kind of sound. I might have to start thinking of the Patrol as actually being good. Meanwhile, Aberdeen Dave said: >Some of us like The Strokes and others don't. Could we please just agree to >that, and stop arguing over whether they're brilliant or awful. Pshaw say I. There is no room for deviance on Sinister. Through the magic of e-mail I was corresponding with fellow Dublin based Sinisterite Grainne, and we were wondering whether there has ever been a Dublin Sinister get together. I have my doubts as to whether there are enough Sinisterlisters for it not to all be a bit sad, but I've come up with a great potential thing for what we could do: get the DART to Bray and then parade menacingly up and down the windswept seafront, go to the amusements (to be amused) and then hit some ganky pub. I like it. So is anyone on for it? And does anyone fancy a Dublin Sinister meetup? party on. DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Wed Sep 26 23:08:33 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:08:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: News Network! Sinister News 24 Hours Per Day! Message-ID: [Scene: a television news room, decorated in the usual shades of beige plastic and with vague signs of people running about in the background. Male and female anchormen sit in front of their cameras, ruffling their scripts about in the usual way. Up come the lights, and the music stops.] HIM: Good evening. You're watching the Sinister News Network. I'm Sebastian Chocbunny. HER: And I'm Isobel Fanclub. Here are tonight's headlines. SEBASTIAN: Ken Chu is Sinister's most prolific poster yet again. ISOBEL: Birmingham jokes "not compulsary" say experts. SEBASTIAN: Scottish listee rocks world of philosophy. ISOBEL: Reports from the Sinister Statistical Research Institute suggest that Ken Chu will be the most prolific poster of the month yet again next week, but it will be a close-run contest. Surprise entries in this month's top ten list include such well-known but normally quiet posters as Mandee Wright and Rob Brennan. SEBASTIAN: Experts from the Compulsary Jokes Faculty of Sinister University have announced that it is *no longer* compulsary to make a joke about Birmingham, England, whenever the infamous Vodkabird sends a post to the list. They considered putting jokes about Kirkcaldy on the compulsary list, but could not think of any apart from "Fife -- they're all inbreds, aren't they?" ISOBEL: A well-known listee from West Calder, Scotland, has become the latest star in the world of philosophy. Richard "Quiff" Gillanders has amazed experts with his new book on the life and works of the philosopher de Selby. The book, entitled "That Flann O'Brien Knew What He Was Talking About And No Mistake", will be published on September 31st. SEBASTIAN: Later on in the program, we interview the most popular listee, and ask the question "Picnics: twee, or just an excuse for a piss-up?" First, however, a report from Wisconsin, USA, where Kirsten Kenyon -- the famous Sinister artist, writer, and owner of large-scale garden landscaping company "Kenyon's Canyon's" has been causing a storm. Here's the report. [An attractive young girl -- looking "like a cross between Jennifer Lopez and a Swiss mountain girl" -- stands in the middle of, um, a city or something. An American one. I don't know what America looks like. Make it up for yourself] VOICEOVER: Normally, Milwaukee, Wisconsin is your typical American city. But local girl Kirsten Kenyon is putting it on the map with her posts to the Sinister mailing list. She says: she just doesn't know what the fuss is about. KIRSTEN (for it is she): I just tell people what I've been up to, what I'm thinking, what listees in Wisconsin are doing right now. I mean. I mean, I don't know what they're thinking. I don't think there even *are* any other listees in Wisconsin. INTERVIEWER: But weren't you cited as one of the most popular and touching writers on the list. KIRSTEN: Hee. Um. Well, I dunno about that. I just write whatever I think of. I know some boys in Scotland phoned me up and said they liked my posts, but I didn't think anyone else noticed. VOICEOVER: Well, Miss Kenyon certainly seems to be the girl of the moment here in the Mid-West. Now, back to the studio. [And, back in the studio...] ISOBEL: Thanks, Winona. Winona Azadehdel reporting from Milwaukee there. SEBASTIAN: Sinister Picnics. Are they just a few twee souls meeting for a chat, or is there something more, um, sinister about them? Later tonight, the Sinister News Network will be showing an in-depth, hard-hitting documentary, with our top investigative reporter Wendell Soupbasket trying to get to the bottom of what *really* goes on at these events. ISOBEL: What he found will shock you to your very core. We must warn you that his report involves drink, drugs, nudity and perversion, because then you're more likely to stay up and watch it. Here's a trailer. Warning: some viewers may find these scenes offensive. [A stupid-looking reporter stands in a park, with noone else in sight] REPORTER: In just a few hours, a Sinister Picnic is due to take place at this very location. Exactly what depravity will occur? We at the Sinister News Network want to find out just as much as you [Cut to: lots of drunk-looking people standing around in a pub. Well, one is collapsed on the floor, but the rest are standing.] VOICEOVER (yes, the same one as before): Listees have a reputation for being "twee fuckers", but is this really true? Our sources suggest not... [closeup on a girl in the above crowd of drunk-looking people] GIRL: I'm hard as nails, me. VOICEOVER: And later on, things get even worse... [A city street at night, with a small group of people staggering down it, one of whom looks rather puzzled] [Onscreen caption: "Glasgow"] [pause] [another onscreen caption: "(the posh bit)"] PUZZLED BOY (rather drunk; you can't really see who he is in the dark, but he looks a bit like the famous Ken Chu): WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET TO GLASGOW? WE CAN'T WALK THERE, IT'S MILES! EQUALLY PUZZLED GIRL: Eh? Ken, what are you talking about? We're *in* Glasgow. VOICEOVER: Clearly, these people are *very* disturbed. Watch "Picnics: The Truth!" tonight for more shocking revelations. Only on the Sinister News Network! [...and back to the studio...] SEBASTIAN (looking grave): Shocking indeed. Later on in the programme, we interview the list's most popular listee. But first, here's a few words from our sponsors. [fade to ad break] [A cheap-looking advert. Lots of static pictures flash up in the background, some of which look surprisingly like the people featured in the "shock! horror! picnics!" documentary] VOICEOVER (a girl again, but with a Scottish accent this time): Do *YOU* want to see pictures of real live listees?! Come to our website, and see photographs taken at the very latest Sinister Picnic held in the list's home country of Scotland! Marvel at images of Alasdair Cook, Belle The Grown-Up Dog, Sweetie, Sunset, Jeremy the Collapsing Australian, Calumn Shearer, the Quiff of the Year, Carey Lander, and the one, only, unforgettable KEN CHU! Yes, people, he really is more than just a myth. This offer is not available in the shops; instead, just go to http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/picnic.html and marvel at the sights you see. Order your reprints now, folks! [and fade up the news bulletin again] SEBASTIAN (to Isobel): ...she found me in the shower with a tin of treacle, I had to say that ... [holds earpiece to ear] what? [looks at camera, then back at script, then back at the camera] Ho ho ho folks, I wonder how they manage to pronounce that "~" symbol so easily. But back to the news. Later in the program, we ask: Life Without Buildings. What would it really be like? ISOBEL: Also, we have another item in our series "No, we don't have any Korn", interviewing the staff of independent record shops around the world. Tonight, we talk to Gavin Dunbar of Avalanche Records in Glasgow. [Video clip. A tall, nice-but-hard-looking bloke with short blonde hair stands behind the counter of a record shop, of the sort found tucked away between the railway station and the back of the shopping centre.] GAVIN (for it is he): I filled that aisle entirely with New Order records, and the other aisle had nothing but Joy Division. Nobody noticed for three days. [...back in the studio...] SEBASTIAN: Looks riveting. Now, SNN's top reporter Oliver Sneezebiscuit recently spent three days with someone who is, according to an official Sinister Towers press release, possibly the most popular listee. ISOBEL: Apart from Princess Honey herself, of course. As you've probably guessed by now, we're talking about no ordinary listee here -- for one thing, she has six nipples! Intrepid Oliver went to the wilds of Dundee to talk to -- I'm sure you know who I mean -- Sinister's very own Belle The Kissing Dog. [Another "top reporter" who looks just like the other one. OK, imagine him looking a bit different if you want, but it's too much effort to be worthwhile, believe me. A lovely-looking dog (for photos, go back and read the AD BREAK) sits at his feet panting] SNEEZEBISCUIT: So, Belle, you're now one of the most well-known and popular subscribers to the list, and you've even been sillustrated twice. What would you say explains your sudden success? BELLE: [pant pant pant pant] SNEEZEBISCUIT: That's a very interesting philosophy on life you have there. Has the list affected that in any way? BELLE: [whine!] SNEEZEBISCUIT: Look, the girl said she'd give you a biscuit when I've finished asking you questions. I've heard that you've been the star of several picnics now. Is it true, though, that you bit someone at your most recent picnic? BELLE: Woof! SNEEZEBISCUIT: Yes, I'm sure she realised that you were only trying to play. You did bite her, though? BELLE: Woof woof! SNEEZEBISCUIT: Whether she was bleeding or not doesn't matter. And I *know* you haven't got rabies. Has your new-found celebrity affected you in any way? BELLE: [pant pant pant] SNEEZEBISCUIT: No, I don't have any crush votes either. BELLE: [pant pant whine pant] SNEEZEBISCUIT: No, I'm not giving you mine. By the way, can you give me your girl's email address? BELLE: Woof woof woof! SNEEZEBISCUIT: There's no need to be like that. She might like me if she got to know me. I think it's time to go back to the studio. SEBASTIAN: Thank you, Oliver. I'm sure we all learnt a lot from that. ISOBEL: Late news coming in: apparently, there are reports of a deranged American woman who has already infiltrated Europe, who is planning a visit to the UK very soon. She answers to the names of Stacey or Dahling, and has an unhealthy obsession with the Pernice Brothers. If you see her, do not approach her: she could be dangerous. We ask all our UK viewers to stay on their guard. SEBASTIAN: Well, that's all we have time for in this news bulletin. Stay tuned to SNN for Sinister News, on the hour, every hour. [Up comes the title music, and the lights go down. The presenters' microphones are still on though. Yes, I *know* it's an old joke] SEBASTIAN: So, are you up for that meal? ISOBEL: I told you. I'm not going out with any men who wear girls' underwear... SEBASTIAN: But... ISOBEL: ... unless they wear a nice skirt to go with it. And shave your legs too, while you're at it. SEBASTIAN: But I *do* shave my... SOUND ENGINEER: Guys! Sound's still on! SEBASTIAN: Oops. (if you're still here, thankyou. Yes, I *know* it was a bit of overkill to write all that silliness just to announce that there are new picnic photos on my website. But there are. And you should go and look at them. That address again: http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/picnic.html) xx gneissy -- http://www.btinternet.com/~wpsalt/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox1 at xxx.com Wed Sep 26 23:17:22 2001 From: pinefox1 at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You're The Bee's Knees Message-ID: <20010926221722.2895.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> It's true about A Taste Of Honey being marvel(l)ous (delete as appropriate), but goodness me, we don't all have Extra Channels. Myself, I can never get round to watching the Non-Extra-Terrestrial (NET) Channels. Peter Miller said: >>> Well, it's better than nothing, I haven't seen many other suggestions... I see. >>> I think that 3,6,9 story is the best one Stuart has graced us with so far. I don't know what you mean. >>> I love the way he uses the word "friend" instead of "bird". Nope. Still nothing. >>> Speaking of which, did you know that Planet of the Apes and Bridge on the River Kwai were both written by the same person? And somehow that really impressed me. Heck, no - so: yes. Did you know that 'Don't Look Back' and 'Charlotte Street' were both written by the same person? And somehow that really impressed me. Did you notice? A gal said that she was playing 'Eighties Fan' on G-D-C only. Let me record not only my approval but that I have pre-empted this plan by writing Frank O'Hara's 'In Memory Of My Feelings' with only 50 words. I have to use the same words quite a bit, and some of them aren't very useful, and the poem comes out different from Frank O'Hara's 'In Memory Of My Feelings'. Still. >>> I wear my clothes because they were in the sales. And I certainly don't wear them in order to attract other people who buy their clothes in the sales. Good point. I agree. Miller said about the Strokes: >>> Top Gear mentioned Ribena in connection with possible upholstery stains. I see. The other day C96 said he was going to write to sinister. What happened? He's not telling. Those of you who can't get to see A Taste Of Honey on fancy TV might like to listen to the Beatles' version of it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Primitivepainter at xxx.com Thu Sep 27 06:00:34 2001 From: Primitivepainter at xxx.com (Primitivepainter at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:00:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: pardon me boy is that the chatanooga chu llew? Message-ID: <60.145ddd5a.28e40c75@aol.com> *do i get a prize for the best headline ever?* *********** film music ***********friday was funny ... physically and mentally i am feeling the worst i have felt in years...and yet i managed to relive one of the finest moments in film...the scene from "Gregory's girl" when Gregory's late for school and he's zig zagging through the playground hoping that noone sees him...it was great...i was an hour and a half late for work...and i zig zagged and crouched and dodged...and slipped into work without anyone noticing...no mean feat as there are security cameras everywhere! it made me feel better anyway...and lightened my mood...i have no control over world events...i only have control over my life...and sometimes that's debatable...i drifted out of school...i drifted into a job that i've remained in for 15 years...i drifted into bands without ever learning how to play...and now i find myself being the veteran of 2 albums...with another 3 all scheduled for release early next year...all under different names with different labels...the more people that ! take us seriously the more amusing we find it...but don't get us wrong...we take the music we make deadly seriously...we just don't expect anyone else to... **************************** love is stronger than death **************************** the tragedy in america shocked me into a muted silence...shocked me so badly...and made me realise...how important your friends and family are...i've made a conscious effort to make sure the people that are close to me know that i'm always around...and some others that i thought were friends...well you live and learn as they say...i have read all of the mails and i have been overwhelmed by peoples compassion but i have also read other not so compassionate mails on certain other lists and i have been disgusted and especially ashamed of someone i actually knew or thought i knew and their lack of compassion and ignorance...you live and learn as i said... ****************** a lullaby for llew ****************** i have had a music free week or so...i haven't listened to anything...but luckily the spiritualized album has come out...so my punishment has ended...music i honestly believe can heal...its magical and can make you lose yourself into another place and to forget about everything for a while...and from time to time we all need that...i get the same feeling from books...and i received a timely parcel from my wonderful book mentor, laura llew...for a long while i have only read what she recommends...she has impeccable taste...so a humble thankyou to the llew...and on my favourite subject the lovely miss llew...i can announce that my entry for the L.L.T.T.C is finally completed...it shall be sent in the post as soon as humanly possible...its a corker by the way...i just thought i'd mention that... ************************************* different strokes for different folks ************************************* The Strokes? best band in the world?...all i will say...if you think the Strokes are good wait till you hear The Music...but i'll say no more...musical preference is the choice of the individual...that's what makes us all unique...what a sad world it would be if we all liked the same thing...the key to it is tolerance...and respect... i respect anyone that makes music...whether i like it or not...but Robbie Williams does test even my patience at times... ********************** three djs and no M.C ********************** and on that note i shall end this...if anyone is in london...myself and my colleagues shall be previewing our collective 3 albums by dj-ing at the spitz bar on saturday...there's a couple of good bands playing as well...and if anyone happens to be there...i'll be the solemn looking chap that's pretending to dj! well to give you more of a clue i'll be the short one out of the three of us, give me a nudge and i'll buy you a drink...and after that it'll be a mad dash across london to see the genius that is techno animal... ta ta everyone... love and peace to you all... richard...i...p x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it Thu Sep 27 07:42:19 2001 From: stefano.santabarbara at xxx.it (Stefano Santabarbara) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:42:19 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic stroms and others Message-ID: <200109270642.IAA23644@mailserver.unimi.it> Dear All Sinister I'm posting after a while but it has been great to hear voices from you all during these days which has been really dramatic. When something of this proportions happens there is always the risk of say words which can simply sound rhetorical and/or empty. Which is exactly what the media does every time getting a shade of ridiculous over the most serious and worth happenings. I don't think I'm going saying anything else more of what has already been said, which will be just not redundant. I would only like to add a little comment about the future reactions, which can be simplified in the question, is revenge an answer? Moreover, will this so called "war again terrorism" really hit the terrorist or just reflect over innocents, and build up the background for hate which will in turn result in senseless (for equilibrated and neutral point of observation) action as the one happened in the U.S or the little but much continuous happening, or which had happened so frequently, in Israel? Look at the war in the Gulf, has it resolved anything? Everyday people is dieing in Iraq because of embargo, which also strikes innocent, and not the so called guilty, if we would admit that Saddam is, for example. Can innocent blood wash the blood of innocents? Isn't it just the basic of terroristic action, killing for killing. But If I should say that, it is even worst if the most powerful nation in the world, the U.S, and all the occident will act this way, because while the terrorist will never be able to strike a defined target, such as say the President, or governor, or the chief of the army or anything, all this country can do a war, if the want, which will not reverse that much on the civil, as the last examples has been (Iraq, Bosnia, Serbia). I'll be the happiest people around if the Taleban regime will be defeated, but that is not because of a war against terrorism, or for the fact in N.Y.C. or Washington, rather for the conditions, especially of woman, which are far from that which belongs to human being. But this was well know even before, but none of the so called "big" and "civil" country did anything for that, or would have done, unless the other tragedy happen. Do we ever need to be so shocked to react sometimes to evidence? Part (b) Second point, a kind of a philosophical. Thinking at the fact in N.Y.C. and combining it with recent facts happened in my very little universe, I turn wondering about the role of fate in every day's life . Ok, I should admit this is not really a "new" or particularly bright topic, either don't know why I said it could be in philosophical kind, but well this is the point. I'm really not one of the people who believe in everything being set by a obscure predestined design. I'd rather say I'm in general of the opposite opinion, rather humanistic, of a man being the "faber" of his own existence. Which is quiet a pure but poisoning, or better corrosive attitude to look at the things. Obviously I mean that in general terms as constrains and boundaries may be considered. And all the my wondering about of the last days has been around this boundary conditions and eventualities. Briefly do you think there are things that no matter the effort of the wish you could put in to realise, will never turn the way you would love to, simply because the don't belongs to you? Here is the matter of the fate, which has pointed you to or far away your quest . To make a long story short, and not getting into detailed speculations which has led me to the answer, I think the answer is "yes". I would love to hear more opinion about that I think I've been to self influenced to get out of it clearly .mhmhmh sounds confusing at the end Sorry for the long post, Take care your sinister Stefano :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante Sez. Fis. Veget. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Thu Sep 27 08:49:08 2001 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:49:08 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello sinister, whats all this about the Strokes album being bleepy and electronic and Hefner thinking they are good looking and the new Velvet Television? Disgraceful. Revoke their membership of the musician's union. Yesterday I got a fairly good version of Legal Man downloaded onto my new phone as well as Love Will Tear Us Apart, Fools Gold and Debaser. There is a corner of a tiny mobile phone that will forever be indie. Suffice to say, fools gold sounds nothing like it does in real life. i've started my legal man course and have just realised the huge amount of work required to essentially get a law degree in one short year. The induction folder which covers the first 2 weeks is about 200 pages long and full of latin. And I have to read, understand and be able to lucidly discuss it. Is there going to be an autumnal london sinister meet up? Surely it is time for london sinisterites et al to stride out into the cold with our big thick winter coats and consume vodka? Or sit in a pub if it's too nasty. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Thu Sep 27 13:21:32 2001 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:21:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Storytelling. Satire. Sandwiches. Message-ID: <20010927122132.7923.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> ** HOLY FUCKING SHIT ** Since the WTC tragedy broke about the only source of worthwhile comment about the situation seemed to be the posts here on Sinister. Or at least it was until yesterday when the Onion came out of hiding with its best and most poignant edition ever. Go to www.theonion.com if you've not already been and read the cake story now. Then try and work out why only people saying anything useful are on a fan list and a humour site... ** WHO THE HELL ARE THE STORKS? ** Lots of talk about *shudder* OTHER BANDS. We've been B&S-starved for too long while they've been living it up and charming the pants off the USA. Unfortunately The Season Has Arrived isn't due out for another month... But what's this I see on Amazon.com? Storytelling [SOUNDTRACK] - out November 13th!!! I thought they only had about one song in it or something but this sounds tantalizingly like an ALBUM of original material. Unfortunately amazon.co.uk only has it down as Import. Booo! So who's seen Storytelling? What's the soundtrack like? Very B&S? Instrumentals? Huh? ** FILM AT 11 ** Gneissy Will's post was ace 'cos it made me laugh and spit half-chewed sandwich everywhere. It was also grate cos he mentioned ME. Even more bizarrely he mentioned ME in the context of POSTING - and I never post. Please don't look at the photograph by the way. I don't really look like that. Robster http://robster75.tripod.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From williamthebloody at xxx.com Thu Sep 27 15:45:21 2001 From: williamthebloody at xxx.com (Spike) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 07:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Storytelling. Satire. Sandwiches. Message-ID: <20010927144521.820702757@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From tobikid at xxx.com Thu Sep 27 16:40:43 2001 From: tobikid at xxx.com (Graham Henderson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:40:43 +0900 Subject: Sinister: Osaka Dreaming Message-ID: Well the unbelievable has finally happened. After years of sitting sullenly, half a world away from the nearest picnic, B&S are playing in a town near me. The tickets are out on saturday and I already have my minions waiting patiently, credit cards and cell-phones in hand. So this is kind of a rallying call in the unlikely event that anyone out there is considering attending the gig at Osaka Zepp on november 12th. We're looking for a few brave souls with whom to share our Makizushi and Umeshu. I wouldn't call it a picnic as such, for two main reasons: 1) Numbers: at the moment we have a meagre three, maybe four if Takahiro can persuade his boss to let him have a day off work. Getting Japanese people to chuck sickies from work should be considered as a new olympic event. 2) Haircuts: our unofficial group leader and token Gaijin has recently been accused of wanton tweelessness following and extended spell of mohawk-wearing. (According to recent japanese opinion polls, people who sport mohikans shouldn't like belle and sebastian.) Anyway if anyone is up for a bit of a gathering before the gig, give me a shout. Both Japanese and Native English speakers will be on hand to deal with your enquiries. HappyHappyHappy TBWTHE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Thu Sep 27 23:53:40 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:53:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: This isn't the smiths mailing list is it? Message-ID: Sitting there, togeher listening to the smiths. An end to the 5 years refusal to listen. I don't know exactly what the reason for not wanting to before, although a lot of it was to do with jealousy. The music belonged to girls he had known before me, the music had filled the age gap between us and the music had meant so much to him. I didn't want to become something that he already was, or someone he had already known. Through sheer stuburness I refused to listen. Oh, but, sitting there like that. I didn't want this to end. Despite all of the arguing, despite the fact he has a new girlfriend, despite the fact have been wishing for him to leave for the last month or so. I just didn't want this to end. Tears clouded my eyes and I sucked hard at my cheeks. This was to be the last time we would sit together in a house of our own. He flicked through songs and told me a bit about the ones he liked , and a bit about why. It was a hopeful faking of a new begining. I could have curled up with my head on his chest and listened to him breathe in and out. Instead we sat upright barely looking at each other until the CD finished. I don't know what will happen now, I suppose tomorrow he will get the keys to his knew flat, and I suppose tomorrow I will come home to a bouncy dog and no one else. Well Take Care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Fri Sep 28 01:01:57 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 03:01:57 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Unicorns and cannonballs,palaces and piers,trumpets,towers,tenements,wide oceans full of tears Message-ID: <003201c147b0$cbae52a0$68facdd4@q2x8k0> It seems I'll always post about the weather. Last night, or rather this morning, a Waterboys cd lulled me to sleep. I woke up in the early afternoon of the first real autumn day, which by now is nearly over. It was chilly, windy and bright, and, most of all, clear. It felt like a present: a change to something more beautiful. A day that inspires you, that asks to be the scenery to beautiful things. Looking for inspiration to a post, I came across this -in an almost magical way: 'A stolen kiss is an entire day spread before you, nothing to be done, save for what you make of it. A morning at a sidewalk cafe with a cup of coffee and a book. An afternoon on a bench in the sun musing and the smell of blooms. A late night at the discotheque, with the beat and the chemicals drowning away the worry. And the next day, you could do it all over again. Or, do something else. Countless variations to be made; a stolen kiss is a choice of how to get through the day.' What to do on a day that feels like a present...? This kind of weather has me wanting love more tangible, I quoted the Bright Eyes three weeks ago, and now I repeat, only far more intensely. It also made me want to lie on my bed and play myself records while watching the curtain float outside the window. Waterboys again. Jonathan David. Sixteen lovers lane. Write three different post outlines. Phone my best friend and run all the way to his house. Walk back half an our later singing Ask by the Smiths. But there's not much else I can do. I feel inspired, then I feel lonely for not having anyone to share this with. And all this unexploited creativity, it's starting to feel heavy and sad. And I can't help thinking how wonderful Scotland was and how wonderful the friends I made there are. And how most things I love and long for are there and I'm here. Of course, I can study -I have to study- but that's the only thing the weather makes me not feel like doing. I love learning, I was born curious, I'm always asking a thousand questions -but it's about things of importance, and it aims at understanding. It brings a deeper insight into things every time. But not school... that's just exams, with names and dates and facts, and a few opinions -but what's the point if you have to memorise them as well... school is bad for the soul. Even auntsadie knows that. Stacey Dahling said the other day: > in less than a week's time, I will be in London and a few days after that in > Edinburgh and Glasgow and Leeds and Sheffield and... I really can't wait. I > will be with other sinister people, which seems at the same time wonderful > and scary. When I did that, it didn't feel scary at all, it felt like the best thing in the world. > have you ever tried to explain the sinister phenomenon to someone? isn't it > difficult to describe what makes it special and ok and not scary and full of > perverts and strangers? we don't feel like strangers do we? why? it's so > weird. I can't understand why I feel the absolute need to spend lots of > money to go meet a bunch of near strangers. they don't feel like strangers > to me, they feel like friends. and the few sinisterines I have met have been > almost instant friends. what is it about this band that makes nearly all its > fans so gosh-darned compatible with each other? I thought that was brilliant. And it broke my heart. 'Gosh-darned compatible' -I don't even know exactly what that means. I know compatible though, so it makes sense. But Stacey, a sinisterine is not simply a fan. It might surprise some people sometimes (ie Will Salt in Dunfermline), but there are loads of non-sinister Belle and Sebastian fans. Who buys all these records and goes to the concerts? I'm sure Jonathan David sold more than 1500 copies, right? Not all Belle and Sebastian fans would read twelve posts a day about other fans lives, and enjoy it. And well probably not everyone out there does -but we do. A Sinisterine is a Belle and Sebastian fan with a more or less close relationship with their computer, and an interest in other fan's lives. I joined because I thought the posts would feel kind of like the songs. I think I'll just settle down with saying that... it has already been said, by Joan of Dark and repeated by Will, that "sometimes Belle and Sebastian feel like they've become a way of life". What I meant to say is that we live our lives inspired by them. Or at least look at them in ways inspired by them. > I've been thinking an awful lot about fate recently. it scares me, but is > also oddly comforting. I have begun to think that fate had a lot to do with > why I am sitting on a bed in a room in a brothel district in Athens, and > I've been feeling recently that I am ready to just resign myself to fate, > but that feels a little bit like giving up. Fate... I don't believe in fate as in what's going to happen being already decided... but as in things seeming meaningful, I do believe in that. Some things just seem to be the way they are for a reason. And some others, trips for example, just feel right -and they look after themselves. And that's when the best thing you can do is resign, but it doesn't feel like giving up, it feels like...like what Hefner sing: 'I don't mind since god is on my side'. > someone sinister also posed a > simple yet way-too-complex question to me recently: what do you want? and I > can't answer it! do I want people, places, a career, a future, freedom, > stability, stories to tell the kids, kids? why am I still restless? who do I > love? who loves me? who am I? > it's tough being human, isn't it? Of course. But I like to think it's rewarding too. That it will be even more. At some point. If I lived in a song, it would be a Waterboys one. 'And on that fine and fateful day/I will take thee in my hands/I will ride on that train,I will be the fisherman/with light in my head/you in my arms'. Love, and all the things that make you feel and care, Dimitra ps,credits: the stolen kisses paragraph, and the wonderful whatever makes you feel and care' phrase belong to Matthew Hintz. The subject line belongs to Mike Scott. And it is about how the world could feel on a day as magical and as empty as this. Or on any day actually. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DansonHatcher at xxx.com Fri Sep 28 02:46:59 2001 From: DansonHatcher at xxx.com (DansonHatcher at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:46:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: Oi you!, Yeah you in the Sari. Message-ID: <10c.6210498.28e53093@aol.com> I really like travelling but think I can cross India off my map of 'places to visit'. Not 'cos there's anything wrong with India, just that since starting work on Monday I feel I've been there now. Strangly enough, being the only person in the place who doesen't speak fluent Punjabi is really fun, like if you get told to go and do something you don't really want to do, you simply make out you don't understand the sign language. This works really well so far 'cos a good 70% of the workforce are less than brill at English themselves. They have ways around this tho, you get a broom put in your hand and shown the area that needs sweeping. Sadly this is universally understood and the "me no understand Deli-slang" excuse is wearing thin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- This B&S film soundtrack. I saw a poster in a local Record shop (the one I can't remember the name of that's on main steet, Leicester, Maddie'd know) talking about "Belle & Sebastian's first foray into the movies"or something like that, but this poster looked quite old and though I can't remember what this latest film is called I'm sure it was not the same one. Now, I may just be showing my usual cluelessness regarding things I should know but do any of you know what film this is 'cos I'd love to know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- Meanwhile back in Calcuta......... ..........My actual job title is 'Machine Setter', so I'll basically go round the factory keeping the machines in order. Which does little to decribe what I've been told to do so far, apparently because I'm "still in training", Yeah. Mind you, I get to *talk* to some very pretty young ladies and I am paid rather well. I can't complain too much. Until.. ...SATURDAY, just two days away. I'm going to London 'cos some loony has offered me a job, it's like the best job in the world. Cycle courier(ing) I watched this documentry about three years ago about these cycle couriers in New York, this must have had quite an effect on me as ever since I've wanted like mad to do It. Now remember, At about 11 o'clock Saturday morning I have my interview, so everyone must sit in a state of perfect concentration whilst crossing their fingers and wishing me luck and I do my bit, by offering BP flapjacks and looking fit enough Will's picys are reet good too, except the one of me where I look like a scarecrow with a stange Tony Blair style "hey people, trust me" grin. (it was rather chilly you see) Also I think, someone had a camera at the Manchester get together, It'd be really good to see those pictures too. Go on, Go on... (repeat to fade) As usual.. If you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. James.* * Soon to be renamed Pravin, married with a Hareem of three-wives-and-counting, often found cruising in his gold plated Nissan Sunny and making out that "the Queen is Indian!!" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie Fri Sep 28 16:54:09 2001 From: Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie (Martin_F_Conneely at xxx.ie) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:54:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: So farewell then, Peter Miller & Mistopher Christopher & Vancouver & Pernice Bros Message-ID: <80256AD5.00575BBC.00@finance.irlgov.ie> SO FAREWELL THEN PETER MILLER I knew I shouldn't have gone away for the summer. My reading of the list was patchy and when my eyes were averted, PJ Miller apparently vanished. So, no more EDIT SEARCH for MILLER when it's safe to laugh aloud on reading the list. I was sure he would have been snapped up by some mag to do a musical agony aunt column ages ago - maybe he has. Enjoy the retirement anyway, Mr Miller and thanks for all the laughs. A small consolation is that Jenowl seems not to be in any way related to Mr Miller and continues to write. Since he is departing, or has departed, I presume that I'm not committing the sin of writing about the list. Well Mother Teresa told me that Cliff said it was okay. MISTOPHER CHRISTOPER Mistopher Christopher aka Chris Leonard used to be a joy to read too. He played in Dublin last weekend; doubtless B&S will be putting up MP3s of his gig for downloading. He was support for Joan of Arse's launching of their new LP. Joss who was on the list wonce plays with JOA. Postpone buying the Reindeers and buy JOA instead (coincidentally Reindeers were playing the same night in another Dublin venue). The LP is on a small label called Scientific Laboratories, which is not unrelated to the same Joss. I couldn't got to the gig because I wanted to drown some fish in air and the west of Ireland is a good place for that. But no fish were attracted to the worms. Maybe they were stressed with the falling water levels - we may be getting the kind of weather that the South of France used to get. Is it that kind of weather that makes the girls pout? And if it moves here will the French girls stop. VANCOUVER Global warming messed up my first visit to US/Canada too. I visited some of the B&S venues beforehand. For the first time since records began, it rained in San Fran on the 25th June, the only 25th of June I was there. I froze on the Pfeiffer Beach at Big Sur. But Western Canada hadn't had rain for 27 days and Vancouver was an amazing place. It struck me as being as opposite to Dublin as one can get - all the coffee shops and juice bars and bookshops and rollerblading and skateboarding and swimming and walking and bicyling. And hordes of people looking so energetic and healthy. I envy Robyn Fadden and any other Vancouverites on the list. Some native told us that V-ites are usually very disappointed when they visit other places. Well, maybe she meant Dublin and places like that because who could be disappointed on visiting Florence, Prague, Stockholm or Edinburgh. But re. Vancouver, I'd love to read stuff set there. Last night there was a small reference in a play called Tiny Dynamite. I also read a short story in The New Yorker by Alice Munro which was an excellent piece of writing. Also a lot about the Captain after whom V is so called, in Jonathan Raban's book. Any other stuff? Odd thing was that Vancouver was the first city where the skyscrapers were really a plus and looked so well and it seemed a good idea to keep lots of space clear by concentrating people in the skyscrapers. Now I'm not so sure. PERNICE BROTHERS I loved Stacey Dahling's piece on the Pernice Brothers, especially her lack of enthusiasm about Joe the man as opposed to Joe the musician. I've won tickets and tshirts and stuff for their Dublin gig tomorrow night, though I'd planned to go anyway. Except that all of them except Joe have fled back to the US. Maybe they are going to reform the Scud Mountain Boys behind his back. I hope he gets the lush sound though I don't know how he can on his own. I've heard too much stripped down stuff recently - I begin to think it's because the stripped down sounders are unable to do anything else. Overcome By Happiness the song is topclass, especially since it's about not being Overcome. If all else fails, I hope he puts on the CD in the background and sing over it. So now, Honey's helper, doesn't the above prove that a posting can be too too long. All the best and back to sleep for another 2 years. Which song refers to "rising at the crack of noon"? Martin C Senior Sinister Section [the F is against my will!!} This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gltitchener at xxx.com Fri Sep 28 17:28:56 2001 From: gltitchener at xxx.com (gina titchener) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:28:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my walkman appears to be full of hair... Message-ID: This is probably pushing my luck, three posts in a month. But there is no apology. It has been quiet on the sinister front today, and I will leap on the chance to reach you all whilst your defences are down, like a small kitten foolishly leaping on the lifeless form of a shoelace dangled infront of its face. My walkman was indeed full of hair and now it is not. Stevie was showing me his ability to perform tremendous vibrato on wrong dream, but has calmed down now. now the hair has gone. I've met Stevie y'know. Unfortunately i have no photographic evidence of this. What i do have, however, is evidence of Chris Jones Meeting Struan. and now you can see it too! it's rather a slow site, tho, so I only expect those of you who really want to see struan's overexcited face to go to gltitchener.freeservers.com to witness this. Plus those of you who want to see isobelle looking lovely, next to a big truck. The massive is snowballing again. Stu Hallifax, with his new haircut (tho still hairy), appeared as if by magic in vanbrugh pooter room, rather like the earwig i saw in here the other week, and invited me out for a drink. i promptly gave him a false mobile number and hid behind my monitor till he left. (Sorry about that stu. hope you got my message with the correct one. ) I also saw f-b in borders, and again i hid. Now we must wait for our leader, He Who Books Coaches, to return so we can initiate samwalton(yeah!). Then. Then you will be. Sorry. can one of the army of librarians on this esteemed list come and work in our library please? it should be such a lovely place, and yet... and yet we can't *breathe* in there. We need someone to give us air conditioning: let the books breathe! A James attempted to incite a riot by posting: >There are layers to the songs, and many alternate ways they could be >taken >(I don't think my takes on the songs are definite, just what they >seem >like >to me) and this too is part of the beauty of their simplicity. >So let's talk, discuss all that rubbish I wrote up there, tell me >(and the >list) what you think B&S songs are about, or what they mean to you I would like to put my hand up and tell miss that *I* think magic of a kind word is secretly disturbing too: "hey cut me loose, i'm feeling fine". this sounds rather like someone has, well, tried to do themsleves in. yeah, they want to stop now, so it's life affirming (!) but it's a bit close to the bone, blunt, almost risque n'est pas? fookin love the song of course, but i do try to ignore the words. the juxtaposition of that line and the joyous music... blurh the end of judy is a ****slap is sublime. it is the music of a picture, a photo, of an autumn scene, a day like today, of red brick walls under yellow leaves and sad late afternoon sunshine. It is the best thing on that ep. the equally touching stacey asked two short questions amongst others, as if short implied simple: "what do i want?" and "who am i?" these are too big to answer. no-one ever can, surely. it is good to try tho. it is important. it makes you human, the asking. she also casually commented:it's tough being human, isn't it? it's not just tough, it's huge. it's overwhelming. it takes so much effort! nothing is ever simple in the so-called real world. the one we have created as an obstacle course for ourselves with... what as the prize? i should be outside in the beautiful sunshine whilst campus is still nearly empty. i am losing the inspiration i was gifted by the walk here past the school and the retreat*, the chestnut trees and latin grafitti**, the field of horses and the buses of people. I can't agree with Joey, who said "the surroundings shouldn't make you happy. You should be happy in yourself, and the settings will compliment this." the way the sun lit the boughs of the chestnut tree and let me see all the space and life with in it lifted me like seeing an old friend. it is a wonderful way to make yourself happy, seeking and finding the beauty in your every day life and its scenery I can't believe i've written so much! i'm sorry if you've read this far in the vain hope of something worthwhile being written. i can only consume art, i am not a creator of it like so many of you. thanks for being gosh-darned grate sinister. watch the idiot running bye love gina x * the retreat is allegedly the oldest home for mental illness patients in the country, and is right next door to the uni. one of its inhabitants said hello to me today. he looked all old and simple and welcoming. i smiled to him. and to myself. ** i love the grafitti here. some of it's in latin for godssake! eg 'cogito ergo non satis bibivi', which translates as 'i think, therefore i have not drunk enough'. my favourite is 'ah good, the sea'. it is such a happy phrase. the sea is fantastic. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenchu at xxx.com Fri Sep 28 17:35:34 2001 From: kenchu at xxx.com (Ken Chu) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:35:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Loneli=F1ess_of_the_middle_weeke=F1d_slacker?= Message-ID: <006101c1483b$9defe6e0$363689d9@pcd1588.nottingham.ac.uk> Good afternoon Yay finally it is Friday, up to a month ago, I never appreciated how good Fridays were, until I got a job, and since then, weekends suddenly become gold dusts, precious but blown away easily. Last weeked, I designated it to be my "do fuck all" weekend, because I was shattered all week, physically and mentally, and so, on that Friday night, I vowed to myself, "This weekend, I'm going to do absolutely nothing". I woke up on Saturday, and began my very exciting day of doing sod all! I lied on my sofa, and watched TV, I think the WWF was on. I used to watch that loads when I was a kid, but then grew out of it, three months ago. It was great fun, and then I ate lunch, thank you God for creating Instant Noodles, and the rest of the day I did nothing. My mum wasn't home, so I was alone, on my own, in an empty house. I spoke to a friend that night, he was in the same situation as me, but he was feeling lonely. I tried my best but I couldn't convince him that being lonely is very exciting. This weekend tho, I'm going up to Nottingham to see my friends, I haven't been back to Nottingham since graduation, I haven't seen my friends since graduation, and yes, that is very exciting. I listened to the strokes for the first time yesterday, it wasn't very good. Some people tried their best but they couldn't convince me that the strokes are very exciting. I digress. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: ñ is the probably the best letter in the world, much like how ñeep is an excellent word. P.P.S.: Ok the winners of the "Good god" challenge are: Jonathan Nicholas Howell, who come up with "Bass ass" and others and colleen, who come up with "soon son", and others They will receive a tape from me one day, hopefully when I have time to make them but they will have to first send me their mailing address, so I can stalk them. P.P.S. P.F. said: >>A gal said that she was playing 'Eighties Fan' on G-D-C only. Let me record not only my approval but that I have pre-empted this plan by writing Frank O'Hara's 'In Memory Of My Feelings' with only 50 words.<< Sorry, but Travis have already pre-empted that plan ages ago, they rewrote "Sing to the lord" with just 1 word. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahs0 at xxx.uk Fri Sep 28 18:41:03 2001 From: ahs0 at xxx.uk (Adam Short) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:41:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List abuse.. but please! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010928184103.0146b6d8@pophost.aber.ac.uk> hey all, just a short one. I've just moved back to uni (which is great), but I've lost the email addresses of people I talk to, namely gina my guitar tutor :o) if you're still out there can you give us 'you have new mail' style tinkle. cheers admam +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Katia913 at xxx.com Sat Sep 29 02:07:21 2001 From: Katia913 at xxx.com (Katia913 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:07:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: I nearly cut my hand off. Message-ID: <131.2491117.28e678c9@aol.com> Yo! Sinister! What up my home boy? and girls.... This week has been wierd. Spent it on lots of art, really working to get some projects of mine finished, and well, frankly i got nothing done! Too bad! Let me tell you all the story. It was third period today, working to finish a wood carving of a chain out of one piece of wook, sounds real dumb i know. Well, a month of work and today i broke it! That sucked a lot a lot. While starting it again I was not following the rules of having all hands behind the knife. Well, to make a short story shorter, I cut my wrist, about half the way off. Two slices just below the watchline. While gushing blood my teacher sends me down to the nurse. They debated for about ten minutes about wether or not i needed stitches. Well, i didn't get them but i almost got kicked out of the social work group i am in b/c they didn't think my mind was in a sound state. What the hell? I had to get a signed note from my mom and my teacher saying i didn't try to kill myself. Shouldn't have been such a big deal. But it was, oh yes, it was. thats really it, and it really really hurts. My best friends boyfriend said that I was going through a stage of listening to bad indie in the "belle and sebastian" class. he said that I was listening to crap feelie music and the harmoney is bad. What the...? I got my tshirt yesterday in the mail! My sister sent it from Uni for me for my birthday. Its soooo cool! much love sinister! kate from chicago +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lokar20 at xxx.com Sat Sep 29 10:01:18 2001 From: lokar20 at xxx.com (Matthew Henderson) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 04:01:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The stars are projectors yeah, projecting our lives onto this planet earth Message-ID: **Disclaimer: This post is completely worthless in everyway, skip it!** Hello sinisterland! Well, it's 3:30 in the morning and I'm rather drunk. I've never really been this drunk before, but i remember reading somewhere that you're supposed to post only when you're really drunk. So I found myself in Denny's a little while ago, relating some guy I've only talked to once before the story of William the Conqueror's fuck up son Rufus and his brother Henry. How strange. Dahling posted a lurvely story, and I thank her very much for that. Happy birthday Sweetie! We just toasted to you! The strokes? They're alright, but nothing great. If you like them, that's cool. If you don't, that's cool too. It's all a matter of preference. I've never really heard much Hefner, but I will one day. They seem alright. Perhaps I'll buy their album one day. I thought I messed up big-time tonight, and although i did, some other people took care of it, so God bless them for that. I'm fairly lacking in feelings towards a lot of things. Sometimes it worries me that I'm so apathetic to pretty much everything. I feel as though I should have concerns for things like animals, life, the government, blah blah blah. But I just don't have any major philosophy on life. I figure it's best to take things as they come, and deal with them the best you can. I suppose that's a philosophy. I saw built to spill last night, which was an excellent show. I saw some indie kids get into a fight, which was funny. One eventually threw the other down the stairs. Why are people so violent? people should just get along. This world would be so much better if everyone got along. I wish everyone were like you people, cause you're all a great bunch. Wilco was great. I saw them in New Orleans the other night, and I was very impressed. I met a british girl (who transferred to Southern Miss, the poor thing) who was really nice. She's seen our lovely belles several times, including the Scarborough show. She gave me her number, but I don't think I'll call her. I never do such things. I'm too shy. So I quit my job this week. For the first time in almost five years, I'm jobless. It feels great. I get to clean and do homework and stuff, which is much more fun than you would think. It's nice to be a full time student, even though I'm not very good at it. My main goal is to transfer to the University of glasgow, just coz it's got a pretty good film school (from what i hear) and it's NOT in america. I'm not sure why I want to get out of this country, but I do. Anyway, if anyone wants to give me any advice or help or something, just shoot me an email. I sang "IFYS" very loudly to everyone tonight. It scared some people. This one girl was mocking belle and sebastian. I don't like her anyway. I don't like a lot of people actually. Perhaps I don't, I can't quite remember right now. The weather is wonderful in Mobile, Alabama right now. It's one of the few times it makes me glad to live here. And it's only because the weather is not like it normally is. I should really move. I just tried Red bull and whiskey. What do you think of that Ken Chu? Have I mentioned my love for Dimitra? Her posts are incredible. It's like a fine wine. Or something. Thanks Dimitra. Thank you all, you've made many a days happy for me. I tripped and fell today. I fell in the grass. It was the first time I've layed (I know that's not right) in the grass in years. It's been a long time. I used to love to lay in a big field of grass. It was great. Then the ants came, to ruin it all. It was great nonetheless. Does anyone else think Laura should post again? I do. I miss your posts, you should post again. Everyone should post more, to make my life more interesting. My friend bought me filterless cigarettes tonight. I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do with them. Okay, this is probably the last time I'll ever post this inebriated. Sorry again, I love you all. Will's post was 'egg'cellent. -Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Something.Pretty at xxx.com Fri Sep 28 19:46:26 2001 From: Something.Pretty at xxx.com (Rachel Playforth) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:46:26 -0700 Subject: Sinister: all the working girls are fine Message-ID: <000601c14913$d9b664a0$10fc7ad5@aqlzosqt> i just got my photos back from RAH! today, and it brought back all the sweaty excitement, although due to my relatively short stature there are some schoolgirl heads in every shot. also i was a little disappointed that my picture of struan dancing like a LOON just looked like a picture of his stationary back, but i suppose that's what video cameras (and memories) are for. i was quite shocked to discover this week that i am officially unemployed. i mean, i knew that when i came back from holiday i wouldn't have a job, as such, but i didn't really think it through, you know? still, it's given me a chance to pretend to be a real writer, which is entertaining (until i find in poetry review that some 17-year-old whippersnapper is publishing her first collection and my dreams of being a child prodigy take another battering - i've just got to face up to the fact that at 23 i'm too sodding old to be a phenomenon. though at this rate i could be the *oldest* person to publish a first collection, maybe.) i think i might try to get a job in borders, which i swear is where they sent all the indie kids to die after brighton turned its back on all things flared, floppy and woolly. those tags round their necks aren't just staff id, they actually set off a central alarm if an indie kid strays beyond the ghetto: "code red! we've got a bolter!" "activate locking mechanism. don't let him be seen in the street!" "get back inside, you. don't you know you're only fit to pour coffee? there could be a film crew out there!" by the sounds of it the new hefner album is dubious value for money. so it's lucky that i've got a) a boyfriend who manages a record shop, and b) a minidisc recorder....... not that i'd dream of using him as my personal lending library, of course. that would be wrong. but mm... pernice brothers. make me swoooooonnnnnnnnnn. props to rachels fruitloop, cornflake, grapenut and non cereal based. i might have to buck the trend and be archel toast, because toast RULES. i don't know what would happen if i was denied access to toast, probably carnage. my biography will surely contain the following passage: 'in the early years of the 21st century, archel's friends became increasingly aware of her dependence on toast and tea. the sight of the last slice of bread was known to induce mild fits, and her housemates at this time learnt the hard way to leave her milk well alone.' right. enough stalling (you could tell, huh?). i'm off down the job centre. (i could whore myself at the labour party conference, i gather, but the possibility of being attacked by an unholy alliance of anti-capitalists and suicide bombers has put me off slightly...) luv archel toast *************************************** archel at iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords at bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wonderer at xxx.gr Sat Sep 29 18:53:32 2001 From: wonderer at xxx.gr (Dimitra) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:53:32 +0300 Subject: Sinister: I recall a bigger brighter world, a wold of books, of silent times in thought Message-ID: <000701c1490f$a816fb20$b1facdd4@q2x8k0> Grant McLennan said that before I had the chance to think of it. So I just listened to him sing it. And I loved it straight away, and it's been haunting me since. Actually, I think it has been haunting me even before that -a bigger,brighter world. And whether it exists -and where does it exist. I've been trying to get there -maybe I've always been trying to get there- but it seems intangible. As if it exists only in books,songs and silent times in thoughts. Not only in these, you might say, and we may make a list of things where there are fragments of this world. But it will only be fragments. I want to live my life in it, but it always slips away. Are days that are not experienced up to the point of perfectness they promise lost? Should I consider them lost? Saturdays like this one, sunny,the streets of the city crowded by people looking slightly happier than usual, more content. When you live the house to go shopping but you skip it and have sit in a cafe instead. Then walk past the most beautiful spot of the city on the way to the supermarket. Where you stare at the variety of colours and shapes and forget what you wanted to buy. Then you head up again. Back to the house, you meet up with others -more or less grumpy,but almost always so- who have spend their day in similar ways. You say goodbye to your friend, and you wonder once more if you should wonder once more why he can't be happy. Why even when you're sitting on a bench under the lovely afternoon sun he's thinking that he's unlovable. You opt not to wonder, then you wonder nonetheless. You feel tired but you can't sleep -it's from all that coffee. Still, you avoid studying. The day slowly fades while you lie in your bed trying to cling on to its magic. But Saturday evenings and nights are depressing, at least for me they are. From that point on thoughts get confused, thoughts of making love in the afternoon -do I remember that or do I imagine it?- and memories of nights out that felt wrong no matter what you did. When my dad comes and turns on the tv, shall I hide in my room? Is there something more depressing than the noise the television makes when someone else is watching it? But isn't staying in your room just too... I want to take that bigger brighter world *out* of the books and into my life; and from there, out of the silent times and into the moments I share with people. 'I recall a bigger brighter world/A world of books/of silent times in thought...' The next line is just perfect. '...and then the railroad,the railroad takes you home'. Keep on recalling it, or dreaming of it, Dimitra +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sat Sep 29 20:26:03 2001 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:26:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Unicorns and cannonballs,palaces and piers,trumpets,towers,tenements,wide oceans full of tears Message-ID: Matt recently said that you should always post when you're incredibly drunk. I'm not incredibly drunk --- if I was, then I wouldn't be able to type --- but I had a few drinks a bit earlier, and I still haven't recovered. This started out as a private reply to Dimitra, but she said I should post it to the list. Well, I edited out bits. It's quite long and it doesn't have any jokes in it. I'm sorry. On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Dimitra wrote: > It seems I'll always post about the weather. > Not all Belle and Sebastian fans would read twelve posts a day about other > fans lives, and enjoy it. And well probably not everyone out there does -but > we do. A Sinisterine is a Belle and Sebastian fan with a more or less close > relationship with their computer, and an interest in other fan's lives. I keep thinking of what it says at the top of the list homepage: "Sinister. It's where we live." However much Honey denies it, Sinister *is* more than just a mailing list. It's a special place, and a way into our hearts. It's a brotherhood, in a way. > it has already been said, by Joan of Dark and repeated by Will, that > "sometimes Belle and Sebastian feel like they've become a way of > life". What I meant to say is that we live our lives inspired by them. > Or at least look at them in ways inspired by them. Hmmm. I wouldn't say that they deliberately inspire my life, or that I consciously think about them when looking at the world. But, they ... just seem to *fit* with the way I think and the things I do. I want to tell you a bit about how I found them, in case it helps explain any better. When I was 18, and in my first term at university, I didn't own a CD player or a tape player. I did have a radio---well, an alarm clock---but it was so hard to tune that I would leave it set to Radio 4 so I could listen to the Shipping Forecast at 12.45am every day. (If you don't know what the Shipping Forecast is, go to , read and listen) Because of that, I didn't listen to music much---in fact, I didn't listen to music at all. I didn't own many CDs or tapes or records anyway. I was going to be a writer, or a journalist, or something, and every week I would go to the editorial meeting of the student newspaper society. I never wrote anything, just went to the meetings and sold copies of the paper, which was printed every Thursday, wasn't very popular and was almost out of money. Apart from that, I spent my days wandering round the city taking photographs, most of which didn't come out very well. I was expecting a CD player of some sort for Christmas, and just before the end of term I read a review in the last edition of the paper before Christmas. 1996, this was, and the review was of a record called "If you're feeling sinister". It was a good review. The next day was Friday, which is the day that The Guardian --- the normal newspaper that I read most days --- prints its album reviews. They also reviewed this album, and also seemed to think it was good, although, they said, the band sounded like they didn't leave their bedsit often enough. I sometimes wonder if Stuart read that review and thought of it when he wrote "I Fought In A War". But anyway. It was the end of term, and after buying Christmas presents for my friends I had a little money left over, so I went to one of the local record shops and bought three CDs. One was the last Lush album, one was a Les Rita Mitsouko album from 1984 which had been lurking at the back of the record shop's racks for several months, and the third was this unknown album with the plain red cover. It had a lovely back cover, it had *wonderful* sleeve notes, and it was *mysterious*. The notes and acknowledgements and whatsit didn't actually say who the band were, and the picture on the back wasn't exactly clear. For that matter, neither was the one on the front. A few days later, I got back to my parents' house, and could put my new CDs on the stereo. At first, I wasn't sure whether I liked B&S or not. They were very *different* to any of the CDs I already had. As I've said I never really knew much about pop music, and the only things I had to compare them with were my mother's Simon and Garfunkel LPs that I would *very carefully* listen to before I left home, always trying very hard not to put my fingers on the grooves. (a digression: when I was small, I was entranced by my mother's record-player, with the "Click-clock, click, *click*" noise the tone arm made when it reached the runoff groove and picked itself up off the record. When I got a bit older, I was even more intrigued by my mother's *other* record player, which would take a stack of five records, and drop them down onto the turntable one by one. It still sits on my bedside table at my parents' house; when I visit I sometimes use it to play my parent's old S&G, Abba and Sky records). (sorry, this post is getting a bit long, isn't it. oops. i'm not sure i'm getting to the point, either) When Christmas morning came, I got my new CD player -- not a big stereo, a little portable thing. The CD player part of it is broken now, and I mostly use it for listening to the Shipping Forecast at 12.45am every day. My old radio has been useless as a radio ever since the cat ate its aerial. But anyway. The first thing I did with it was listen to IYFS again; and it started to grow on me. Over the next few months, my life continued pretty much as before. I still didn't write anything for the student newspaper, which finally ran out of money on Valentine's Day. I still took photos, but not many of them came out. I spent several hours timidly talking to a girl in one of my classes, who at the time I thought was rather nice, and eventually I asked her out for a drink. She bought me lots of drinks, then kissed me when she thought I was too drunk to be able to run away. We stayed together for about three years after that. A couple of times, I noticed that Belle and Sebastian were about to release an EP, so I went down the shop and bought them, and It Was Good. The girl thought they were a load of pants, and said so. She said lots of other things to me, too, which made me realise that if I ever was completely open with her about myself, the way I felt about myself, our relationship would be immediately over. So, I wasn't. October of that year, and as the new university term started me and the girlfriend went to the university library one day to reset our new email passwords and surf the web a bit. Bored whilst she was sending email to people, I put in the website that was listed on the sleeve of Dog On Wheels and by a few links found the Sinister website. I joined a mailing list, with about 300 people on it, based in another university department over on the other side of the city. I read this list for months, but never dared post anything. I came to feel that I knew the people posting, and so I never dared try jump into the discussions. Besides, I soon realised that I knew a tiny, tiny, tiny amount about pop music compared to the rest of the people on the list, and that scared me. (I'm forgetting why I started writing this now) After I'd been on the list a year or so, I had to go away from the internet for a couple of months, to work in the Hebrides, so I unsubscribed from the list. Whilst I was away, I heard Tigermilk for the first time, on a third-hand (or so) tape copy belonging to a Glasgow colleague called Cat Toms. Another girl I was working and living with noticed that whenever IYFS was playing I would silently mouth the lyrics. She was a friend of a friend of the band, she said. She used to have an original Tigermilk herself, but had sold it. Before it became popular. For five pounds. Whilst I was away, the green album was released. You couldn't buy it in Stornoway, but as soon as I got back to Edinburgh I got hold of a copy. I had nowhere to live, though, so my computer was stuck in storage somewhere, so I didn't rejoin the list. When I *did* find somewhere to live, I still didn't rejoin the list. I had moved in with the girlfriend, which on the one hand was lovely and nice and cosy, and on the other hand was horrible and nervewracking and frightening. I kept things hidden from her, which was bad. Another couple of years after that, I heard that another album was coming out, so I rejoined the list. Shortly after that, her mother died, and our relationship collapsed. We were laid back in bed together one afternoon, and she started crying. "Will," she said, "do you see us staying together forever?" "I don't know," I replied. "I don't," she said, "you're just a friend now." She picked up her pillow, and some of her clothes off the floor, and took them to the spare bedroom there and then. I seem to have lost the point of this email somewhat. I started out trying to write about why B&S seem like a way of life, but not one that I carry out deliberately. I seem to have ended up writing my autobiography. Everything else I want to say will probably end up as a pile of disjointed sentences. Sinister was the first place I know where I found people who are vaguely similar to me. That's special. In many ways, I'm the same person now as I was when I first joined the list. I spend my days writing nonsense, taking photographs and listening to music. I write letters to people I've never met. I timidly try to talk to people, but I don't think they realise how timid I am. I'm going to try and be open with people in future, because it's better. What does this have to do with what Dimitra said originally? Um, I'm not sure. Something, I think. I've not so much been dicussing what she said as discussing something in parallel. Years and years ago on the list, there were long discussions about the nature of P!O!P! music, and -- as far as i remember -- one of the defining factors people decided on was that it becomes a part of your life. I don't behave the way I do because of Belle and Sebastian, or because of Sinister, or because I'm a Belle and Sebastian fan. I dress the way I do because they're the clothes I like wearing, or the clothes that are in my wardrobe. It just so happens that I like doing things which *fit*. I'm shy, but I like meeting people from foreign countries. I wear my hair in pigtails because I like having my hair in pigtails, not because I'm trying to look twee. Now, I sound like I'm trying to defend myself. I'm sure I shouldn't have to. I'd better stop before I paint myself further into a corner. I hope you can get some vague idea of what I mean from what I say. I'm not sure I know how to say it properly. This post has ended somewhere quite different from where it started, I think. I hope none of you mind. I'll try and think of more jokes to put in next time. I think I'm completely sober by now. xx will +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joan_of_dark at xxx.com Sat Sep 29 21:26:26 2001 From: joan_of_dark at xxx.com (Joan of Dark) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:26:26 +0300 Subject: No subject Message-ID: And how can someone expect. For the words to come to his mind. To write. To You. Tonight. Isn�t it ironic? I don�t hurt anymore. I don�t think. I pushed all the Memories one by one. Until the last one. I strangled them over the void of my mind like crippled, deformed babies. I heard the air hissing in their throats And their throats were beautifully, so beautifully soft, save that, within, I could feel the slippery chords of their -my- life. And this I crushed. This I could crush. What bliss! Oh what bliss at last, what satisfaction! My fingers were tangled around their tiny crooked necks. And they tightened the grip. And my nails were thrust into their flesh�.and a few drops of crimson blood run. I strangled them one by one, carefully. The beautiful and the ugly all the same. But the beautiful ones with more hatred. And I laughed. I LAUGHED. Everything beautiful has to die. Because incomparable beauty can be found in unbearable ugliness , in reciprocal pain. I strangled the little bastards and threw them down in the precipice. I didn�t even care to watch them crush against the rocks. One or two got stuck somewhere and screamed and howled. Doesn�t matter. Something to haunt you is not bad after all. Until it dies. Until it goes to hell as well... And I picked your pieces one by one. Picked the pieces that fell off your decomposing body carefully off the floor of my house. Pieces of rotting skin and nails from the carpet, and your cut-off fingers in the sink. Your dislodged bones, your excrements from the corners of the living room. Your dried semen off my bed. I put them in a box to return them to you. I washed the walls. I washed the mirrors. I threw black veils on them . So that they wont project your reflected image to eternity. I filled the bathtub with bleach. With bleach and acid and sank myself in it. Oh and I burned and burned and melt away. Until it was enough and when my bones started to show, shiny and glowing and white, I emerged. I don�t feel a thing now. But I am overcome by terror in the thought of closing my eyes and going to sleep. If you come back...WHAT THEN? How am I gonna get away? Sleep. Nails of sin, nails thick like Christ�s, hammer your betrayed dreams on your eyes at nights. The torture you have to undergo until dawn. You wake up in the middle of the night and you speak strange tongues which, neither you, nor the palate of your mouth know who wedged them between your teeth in your darkest hours. Broken. My arms. And my heart is half. In my lungs a gaping hole. However deep I might breathe, its not enough. I scrape insanely the grey , greasy dirt from the depths of my soul. >From vomit , blood and semen . Ancient,dried salt from tears that overflowed. The walls got yellow and chipped off from the smoke of the cigarettes that stuffed this room. This nausea that has become a habit nowadays, every time you Remember yourself. You. Yes. You. Little. Miserable. Bitter. Unable to smile. A Liar. A Whore. Like life. You. Me. Me. ....oh well...one day they're gonna shun me from this list...i see it coming.... sorry for spoiling anyone's mood... truly yours, joan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seductive_b at xxx.ca Sat Sep 29 23:41:15 2001 From: seductive_b at xxx.ca (bre day) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the roman stoics Message-ID: <20010929224115.54792.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> hullo hullo i have moved from one place to another place. thirteen hours away. i find myself missing large bodies of water that aren't man made... trees... and green grass. i am surrounded by yellow stiff prairies and huddarite colonies. living with an old woman of 67 who doesn't have a computer has cut me off from any sort of sinister activity, and today i find myself confronted with 423 sinister posts. so i have started going through deleting the ones written by people i don't know [which is aprrox. 98% of you], and its barely made a dent. so. there are some nice music stores here. and two hours away. i have bought more than i can afford. there is one record store in particular which detests belle and sebastian and to prove this point they put up a sign offering free stuffed animals with every b&s purchase. i would just like to point out that these boys, because they are boys, own coldplay albums. so there. i missed seeing b&s by one week. they went to vancouver just after i left. christ. hello kenneth, laura llew, richard and mister stevie trousers. bre. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From patchworkz7 at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 00:23:42 2001 From: patchworkz7 at xxx.com (JAMES GILMER) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 19:23:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Area Picnic? Anyone interested? Message-ID: Hello Sinister peeps, I was just wondering, after the success of the Great Lakes Sinister picnic, whether anyone was up for a Chicago Sinister picnic before the snow flies. At the moment, I'm thinking that it's best to give people two weeks notice, so I was thinking of Saturday, October 13th as the picnic date. This is all pretty variable, but that seems like a resonable day. If anyone's interested then *please* drop me a line ASAP, as I'd like to know whether enough people are interested to be bothered doing this. I can think of at six people in the Illinois area, so even that is enough to have a nice little get together. Of course, anyone from farther away who wants to come along is welcome, and anyone from Michigan or such that needs a ride could probably find a free spot in my car. Let me know what you think Cheers! Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sun Sep 30 06:28:56 2001 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:28:56 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I guess I just wasn't made for these times ...... Message-ID: <002901c14970$eefb5ca0$4b6137d2@computer> because everyone is still telling me The Strokes are the best thing in ages, and I still think they're "a little bit shit" (me, a few days ago) I appreciate that I'm opening this up again, but I *did* start it. And it's just a preamble for me to say ....... ***THE NEW HEFNER ALBUM IS GENIUS*** I can't understand the antagonism towards "Dead media". It is a brilliant, brilliant album. Sure, there are analog synths and drum machines, but the album has pop tunes a-plenty. Think Darren fronting Grandaddy, with slide guitar. It's really really ace. you'd be a fool no to go and buy it today. And I don't suffer fools ........ There are two other albums all 1500 of you need to go out and buy, too. The first is "The Hill For Company" by Sodastream. I suspect this will most likely be the least promoted album of the year, and will slip by without anyone really noticing it. But if you like heartbreaking acoustic guitar pop, fragile vocals, nice production etc. etc., you should check it out. "Looks Like A Russian" was a real highlight from last year, and this one doesn't disappoint. David Moore and Katrina House, I'm sure you concur, right? The other one is "Slum Clearance" by The Siddeleys. The Siddeleys are a late 80's, female fronted guitar pop band, sounding, musically, a wee bit like The Smiths. They made three singles, recorded two Peel Sessions, and despite being potentially "the next big thing", they broke up soon after. This 16 track compilation rounds out their entire recorded output, and is really really good. Check out www.siddeleys.com for more information if you're interested ....... but it's great, I swear. I appreciate that this post has amounted to little other than a record review. Sorry ... I am tired, and a bit frizzled by the SPRING SUN (ha ha Northern Hemispherians) and am about to fall asleep with a good book ...... Plus, I've been organising wedding stuff all day, and am feeling a bit out of it. Stress stress stress. OK, I'll shut up now ....... Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 07:23:32 2001 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 02:23:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Midwestern Picnic? Message-ID: <69.1bb41f8e.28e81464@aol.com> Ms. Lindsey Baker and I were thinking of holding a picnic in Lincoln, Nebraska sometime in October.. would anyone be game for that? Or would it just be me and Lindsey playing pool by ourselves? Write me if you're interested. Mandee. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astrid.wiezell at xxx.se Sun Sep 30 14:20:19 2001 From: astrid.wiezell at xxx.se (Astrid Wiezell) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:20:19 Subject: Sinister: Lots of words from a swedish 15-year-old girl. Message-ID: <166347821@spray.se> Hello sinister sweeties! Autumn (or do you say fall?) has really hit Sweden now. The trees are becoming more and more red, and leaves are falling down from the trees, and It´s becoming more.. chilly, and suddenly you see people with mittens, scarves and coats. It all changed over a weekend, quite weird... Anyway, I like the autumn, everything becomes even more beautiful and walking around in the park nearby our apartment is just really lovely, so many colours and that kind of crispy feeling in the air... Aaah.. Yesterday, I went on a kind of meet-up from a message board, not about B&S but a swedish lovely guy named Håkan Hellström. I´ve met him, and he´s absolutely fabolous. We were about seven persons (most of the people live in other parts of Sweden than Stockholm, so there wasn´t as much people as you would have wished for). It was a bit like a sinisterpicnic, but without the alcohol, the actual picnic and... Hmm.. I just realsied by writing that that it wasn´t anything like a sinister picnic (I´ve never been to one, sincie I am swedish, but anyway..). But we were just seven girls (none of the boys could make it!) that first met ouside a subway station, and then we all went to a big big big café whre you can just sit around, make badges, t-shirts and all that stuff, it´s really cool, It´s called lava and I love it. I made a couple of B&S-badges there a couple of weeks ago, they look dead nice. Anyway, we went to see a band that were doing a little gig in a record store and afterwards signing records and oher things for the fans. they are called The Plan, and quite good. The drummer was sweet, I got a hug from him, but he seemed a bit... tense. Before The Plan went on the ministage in the store, me and those seven other girls spotted a FABOLOUS swedish aritst called Magnus Carlson who makes almost disgustingly beautiful music. So we kind of went up and asked if he could sign some stuff for us, and he was the nicest person I´ve ever met I think. He was so sweet and just very NICE. He signed my songbook (a little notebook where I write my songs for the band I´m in. It´s just one yet, but I´m working on it) and wrote "To Astrid! Good luck with the songs! Magnus Carlson", and he drawed a big heart with an arrow through it. When I said goodbye I said liek "Well, good luck with your music, I love it so much, it´s such a fantastic record" and he smiled and replied "Well, I can only wish the same for you". I was really euphoric after that :) I also took a great chance yesterday. In that record store, which is a chain of stores that are really big, like a swedish HMV, a very beautiful boy works and whom I couldn´t stop looking at, he was so incredibly BEAUTIFUL. Later in the afternoon I went back to that store, alone, and lurked around looking at him (he and this other girl were in teh information desk). All of the sudden I hear his voice coming out of the speakers: "Dear customers, It´s know 16:55, and it´s only five minutes til this store will close for the day. We hope you´ve had a nice day, welcome back tomorrow" And hen I looked a the information desk, he wasn´t there! And then I see him. He is walking from another room towards the information desk. So I stop him and say liek "Um sorry to bother you but.. um.." and he say "Yes?" and I just take a deep breath and say "I just thought I´d tell you that I think that you are very beautiful" (Actually, I think I said something like brutally handsome or something, I can´t really remember) and he liek got a bit stunned I think, and then he said "Thanks..." and I got really embarrassed and kind of mumbled "Well, I just thought I´d tell you" and he just looks really stunned and say "Wow, thanks.. that was really really nice.." And I think I said bye, but I´m not sure... I just wanted to get out of the store, Oh GOD I felt terrible because I made a fool out of myself. [I´m 15 and he was mybe 23-25. People always take me for 18, but still!] But when I started to think about I got more and more proud of myself for having the guts to tell him. How often do you really do that? I know I would be realy happy if someone said that to me. I think people should do more stuff like that, impulsive, maybe, but you get really happy yourself but doing things like that. It really can make a person happy and I think we are to afraid of things to be embarrassing. It´s only what you think is embarrassing that really is embarrassing. Oops, I didn´t mean to write this much. What I wanted to write in the first place was: 1. Today I ate two soyaburgers. I´ve been a vegetetarian since the age of twelve, and one of them tasted really weird, it tasted MEAT, so I just threw it away and felt really bad, so I called my mum to ask her if we had any meatburgers in the fridge, and she said no, so then I felt a bit better. But I still feel like I actually ate meat. Uuuuuh! 2. When thinking about it, these are the two defining moments for me when it comes to music and the taste in music I have now, not counting the groups and artists I loves when I was 10 or 11 that is. I didn´t listen to very good music then.. Moving on: These are the two things that have affected me most (not in any special order) 1. When during a concert with Muse I got to play on Matt Bellamy´s guitar. Muse are my favourite favourite group after B&S, so it meant a lot to me. I´ve never, EVER, seen anyone who plays the guitar as well as Matt! He is incredible... I also got a cloth rose from Dom´s drum set and Matt´s waterglass. I still have it! Oh, yes, some purple stars from Matts pocket as well. 2. Hearing the first song ever with B&S: Mayfly. I got it on a mixtape from my sister who lives in England. She has just come home for christmas and made me that tape. I ran out and shouted "Is it a girl or a boy singing?" and she shouted back "Boy, silly!" And I kind of sighed happily because it was the most beautiful and amazing thing that I had ever heard, it was something new and really special. And I felt if it was a girl with a kind of.. um.. deep (not that you call Struans voice DEEP, but you get my point, right?) it wouldn´t be as good as if it was a boy with a very light and sweet voice ot would me absolutely perfect.. and it was. I´ve loved B&S since then :) Thas enough for me, I´ve talked far too much now. I love you all, Astrid xxx _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 15:12:13 2001 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:12:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Sundays Message-ID: <000001c149ba$3b329540$4bb501d5@oemcomputer> Hi 1484, By The Mark Apologies for misleading anyone, but the report of Peter Miller's demise was an exaggeration. Apparently although he did un- he has subsequently re-subbed. I take back all that stuff I said about him. He's obviously just trying to build the myth & fashion himself into a Sinister cult figure, don't yu know? The Hill For Company Lawrence Mikkelsen just beat me to a recommendation to check out the new Sodastream album. Maybe its my spanking new stereo but it sounds fuller and the vocals clearer than its predecessors. On the first couple of listens you think there aren't many strong melodies but its just that they're growers and the whole thing builds to a dramatic climax with the last few tracks. They're visiting Europe within the next few weeks & playing these gigs: Monday October 22 ­ 12 Bar Club, London Tuesday October 23 - La Guinguette Pirate, Paris with Life Without Buildings Wednesday October 24 ­ Paradiso, Amsterdam Saturday October 27 - Krefeld, Church Sunday October 28 - Frankfurt, Dreikönigskeller Monday October 29 - München, Club 2 Saturday November 10 - Tanned Tin Festival, Santander, Spain w/ Labradford, Manta Ray, Mark Eitzel, Piano Magic and many more Thursday November 15 - Madrid Friday November 16 - Valencia Saturday November 17 - Barcelona So go & see what we're making such a fuss about in the flesh! The Strokes sound a lot like The Smoking Popes to me Many Happy Returns to Beans for his forthcoming birthday on Tuesday, which is apparently not the only thing Arantxa would like to share with him :) Props to the pulchritudinous Princess Honey for all her hard work in restoring the Sinister archives and photo pages. Now one can compare and contrast current list content with that of four years ago again. Reporting Back Albeit very late, sorry. A couple of weekends ago a room above a pub off Oxford Street hosted a Stylus event. Playing were The Relict (well, just Innes Phillips actually), Jinx (spot the listee!), Bart (from the Cat's Miaow) & The Pines (spot the P F). Sinisterines/former Sinisterines present: Joe, Pam, Steady Mike, Sez, Chris & Wendy Butler, Andy Dean, Madame Cholet, Carsmile Steve (who says men don't gossip?), Kevan & Josh plus indie toffs like Alasdair & James from The Clientele (with Daniel, one of their former drummers), Harvey Williams and Amelia (plus another Marine Researcher). All the acts played very enjoyable sets punctuated by the squealing of bus brakes from the street outside. Alasdair thought that a couple of Dr Pinefox's numbers were covers of classic songs. Say no more. Apologies to anyone I owe mail or other stuff to but its been all Corian(R) & ceramic hobs round here for quite some while now. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From room_30 at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 15:38:03 2001 From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:38:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: frank fontaine: abducted be aliens 1979 Message-ID: i found this review of the moldy peaches at: http://yaleherald.com/archive/xxxi/2001.01.19/ae/p15bmoldy.html >Take Belle and Sebastian. Divide by zero, invert, hack to pieces. In the >negative space left over is the Moldy Peaches. > >The anti-Belle and Sebastian: not a Scotch six but a Manhattan two, not >lushly orchestrated but direct-to-four-track, not fey but scabrous. It's >indie pop with a male/female vocal combo, sure�but that's it, except for a >few mics overloaded to explosion, a shredding, fuzzboxed acoustic guitar, >and a big boom of a drum set. interesting. i suppose they won't be playing the song 'new york city's like a graveyard' much now. that song just has too many lines in it which could cut close to the bone. and primal scream won't be releasing 'bomb the pentagon' this is my first post since the 11th of september i was going to post that morning but then i knew that nothing i was going to say had any value or meaning in the wake of those events. on the 10th of september a friend of my dad's was sightseeing at the top of the WTC on the 12th of september i was in a metro station when i heard a policeman say to his colleague 'there's one' refering to a young arab kid walking by and then searched him. the kid was doing nothing wrong, just walking from his train to the street. last week the mosque in my town had a flaming petrol can flung at it's front door. the mosque mohammed ali was married in incedentally. some things are never right with the world but now moreso than ever, i feel. i found all of your posts in the wake of the tragedy touching but could i especially thank martha (mh843 at bard.edu), sophie tintori and carle groome for their amazingly moving posts. -----oO0=0Oo----- wow, i wasn't meant to be so down so i'll end with some PF style recommendations: a quite good book is Whit by Iain Banks a quite good (and amazingly twee) cartoon is Pablo the little red Fox - on BBC Choice, please watch it a quite good album is 'rings around the world' by the Super Furry Animals. the vinyl version is especially good - side C (it's a double album) plays inside out, that is you place the needle at the centre of the record and it plays until the needle falls off the edge, fantastic; also included is a 7" which just has one continuous groove on it so the few seconds of music on it loops round forever in a cool melodic groove, truly FAB. erm... did anybody hear the Bearsuit session on john peel the other night? they are the future of POP, i swear. and i heard about them first on sinister. see?, you are good for something after all. are you cheered up again? sorry... OOH! Look, the next post is by (put name of mystery sinisterine here) and he/she is great! go read it now, go on... Pez* p.s. pablo has a friend called fromage the frog. p.p.s. Hello to phoenixx_ala our latest new list member according to the sinister site www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mmcneil79 at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 15:41:35 2001 From: mmcneil79 at xxx.com (Madeleine McNeil) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:41:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sober Ramblings Message-ID: There have been some cracking posts recently, some of them quite honest, open and personal. They have given me much to think about. For example, Dimitra said: >But there's not much else I can do. I feel inspired, then I feel >lonely >for not having anyone to share this with. And all this >unexploited >creativity, it's starting to feel heavy and sad. I read this post in the computer lab in my university library, surrounded by people sending free text messages and playing solitaire. I started to write a reply, and much in the was Will Salt's did, it all got carried away with itself and I lost control of it. I got a tear in my eye and felt rather choked, so I simply saved it, left the library and went back to work. Even as I was writing my reply, I realised I would not send it to the list, but I'm not sure why. It's certainly not because I want to project the image of being relentlessly cheerful, and it's not that I don't trust people (although trusting 1500 people you've never met is rather strange and difficult). Perhaps, I think it is because it's been some time since I have felt inspired to think about my honest deep down truths, let alone talk about them and share them. I am not a lonely person, without others to share things with, and I spent too many years analysing and discussing and digging deep inside. For the past year or so, I have put it all away, and while I sometimes may consider things about myself, I do not talk about or write about them anymore. The posts that I read and the people that I talk to in #sinister sometimes remind me of things that I used to feel before I shut up about all my feelings, and I'm not entirely sure whether this is a good or a bad thing. Of course, this in itself is yet another thing that needs consideration. Dimitra also said, when quoting Stacey Dahling (who is rapidly becoming my very own Super Girly Sinister Super Hero): > > Have you ever tried to explain the sinister phenomenon to someone? > > >isn't it difficult to describe what makes it special and ok and not > > >scary and full of perverts and strangers? we don't feel like >strangers >do we? why? And it is so bleedin difficult explaining to people why my phone line is always engaged whenever they try to call me as I'm chatting in #sinister. Or how I can say "Oh, I was talking to my friend about such-and-such this morning" and they'll say "Which friend?" "David in Australia", I'll reply. They'll ask how I know him and it becomes odd trying to explain it, because it's never how people imagine it to be. When Jeremy came to stay, I said to the Loved One "I know it will be perfectly OK". "No, you don't know that. You *think* it will be OK" was the reply. But it was OK, it was better than OK. It was grate. And then people ask you why you've forgotten how to spell great/grate. It's all rather tricky. I'm sorry. I appear to have gone on for much longer than I meant to. Thank you for baring with me. Good News: I'm no longer a member of the Sinister Jobseekers Club, as I found gainful employment last week. I'm working at my university taking notes in lectures for disabled students. It's a lovely little job and pays rather well, I think. But it does feel very odd after five years of not having paid work to say "Oh, better go or I'll be late for work". I'm enjoying saying it at the moment, but I think the novelty will wear off in about, ooooh, two days. But I'm sure it will last longer than my first pay cheque. Much Love Madeleine xxx Honourable mentions to Stacey Dahling, Jeremy, Will and Sir David. Oh, and Princess Honey, the star who guides us all (or something like that). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nafees at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 17:12:25 2001 From: nafees at xxx.com (nafees saeed) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:12:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: abscence, umm..., atp, RAH gig and music stuff. Message-ID: hello. umm... it's been quite a while since i last wrote to this list so i've kinda forgotten how to do it. so bear with me. not that there's a any technique to simply writing an e-mail but, i suppose you need some form of structure...maybe you don't. it's just an e-mail after all. i don't know why i haven't written in so long... just didn't feel that i had anything to say. not saying that now i do, just it's one of those sunday afternoons. the ones where you just sit around your house not doing the work that you should be doing listening to music. so... umm. i'm fond of the word 'umm' both whilst writing and whilst speaking. i don't know whether it's actually a word, or just a sound... umm... it's good. a-ha(!) i've found something to talk about. atp. atp this year was rather good. actually no, it was very good. i know it's probably a bit late to talk about it now, but i figured i might as well. it was the first time i've been to atp and it was very good. i met some of you sinister people too which was nice. i met this one sinister-type person and we were discussing what a collective group of sinister-folk should be termed as. we settled on sinister-eenies or something like that. anyway, it was a rather good weekedn plenty of fun had by all i'm sure. i'm probably going to go next year seeing as though will oldham has been scheduled to play. they're having two different events next time aren't they? that'd be good. i suppose it means that more people will get to go... which is always nice. so hello to every sinister-eenie i met there. another event i went to that probably had lots of sinister-folk was the RAH hall gig. i would of liked to have gone to the picnic before-hand but i had my friends with me and picnics aren't their thing. i would have gone to the preston gig as it was nearer to manchester but it would've been just as much hastle getting to preston as it would've been getting to london. i've never really liked london too much before this trip but for some reason i came away loving it...well not loving it, but there was an extreme liking towards it. it was really weird to have such a strange sense of anticipation before the gig. i've never really had that before a gig, and it was a nice feeling. i suppose it was just the build up. it was good getting to the tube station then going in that tunnel thing towards the RAH. we didn't know where to go after that tunnel thing ended so we asked somebody who said "just follow the librarians" which i found really funny for some reason. i think the RAH was a good choice for a venue. everyone inside was just so nice too. people just sitting down on the stairs and in the corridors just talking and drinking, which is always good. we got there early, and the support...umm...person wasn't really up to much so we just walked around. we sort of took a sight-seers internal tour of the place. although the staff were a bit weary of us. which i suppose is fair really. we also did something bad. well i don't know if it was bad, maybe slightly naughty [i love that word]. we booked our tickets late, so we had to get seated ones, which we reasoned was better than nothing. when we got there we just walked down into the standing bit. nobody checked our tickets so we just stood there. talking to some people who went to the strokes gig in london a few days ago. the gig itself was amazing. it's the second time i've seen them, and i suppose this time was the best. it was like someone playing all your favourite songs in a really nice place. everyone seemed to enjoy it too. dancing and stuff. it was really good to look up and see everyone in the seats dancing away. even the ones in the seats right at the top...made me smile. another thing. there was this bit where stuart invited people to come up on stage and sing. these people went up, three of them i think. one who looked like morissey. i volunteered to do it, which is very unlike me. i think halfway through 'the state i am in' one of the ladies shouted 'sinister'. so hello to her. you did very well, considering. just in case you're wondering, i wanted to do 'get me away i'm dying'... the only song they didn't do, *sigh*. after the gig was good too, we met some people and wandered the streets of london in search of a kebab. we got one...eventually. nice weekend, best thing to do just after finish your exams. speaking of exams, i did mine this year. i did well, which i'm happy about. i started sixth form...which is a bit dull. i take my mini disc to keep me company... which i'm sure you're all really interested in. so i suppose i should talk about music. it's been a good year in terms of music i think. i've found loads of good stuff. one of those being will oldham. i jumped on the bandwagon at 'ease down the road'... which is a rather amazing album. i then went out and got the rest of his albums, all 673953347 of them. they're all rather good. although my friends make jokes about them, usually around the theme of 'a mule bleating to death whilst singing about sleeping with his sister'...heh. umm, this year i found the strokes too. lovely, brilliant strokes. i noticed some people on this list don't think much of them but i reckon they're rather superb. compared to a lot stuff around they're so good. another nme-loved band i thought were good, were the white stripes. i haven't heard their other two albums, but i think 'white blood cells' is rather good. what else did i stumble across? umm... ahh that magnetic fields album '69 love songs'. somebody mentioned it to me a while back...how good is that? i only just got it a few weeks ago, i don't think i've stopped listening to it since... i love that guy's voice. bjork, vespertine. that's another amazing album. it's not as good as homogenic, but still brilliant. one album i am disappointed with though is the new hefner album. 'we love the city' wasn't as good as the other two, so i was expecting this to be really good...but it's not. it's actually pretty bad. i think 'trouble kid'' is the only song worth listening to. i got the new smog album too, but i haven't listened to it yet. i love smog. right, i'm going to end it here. tonight i'm going to the twisted nerve anniversary party in manchester, so if any sinister-folk are there enjoy yourself. it should be good. tomorrow, i'm going to get tickets to go to a douglas coupland book reading type thing. he's ace. apologies for any spelling mistakes, or missed-out words. take care, nafees +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sunnie_set at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 19:50:03 2001 From: sunnie_set at xxx.com (Sunset .) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:50:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dundee: Mission impossible? Message-ID: I'm going to tell you something but you have to promise not to tell anyone. You really have to keep it a secret. Well, the thing is, I'm not all that I seem. Anyone who knows me probably me will probably think that I am a scientist. I mean I wear a white coat each day and work in a lab, so you would think that wouldn't you? But thats where I have you fooled. In actual fact I'm an independant undercover agent. My real dailey business is this: I spot other people who might belong to sinister; or who might like belle and sebastian; or just people who are actually spys. I like this little secret because I think if I was just a scientist I would be very bored, and so knowing my day has a purpose makes me feel good. I did once spot a real life spy. Of course it was only through my expert eyes that I was able to recognise him as such. He was wearing a dark rain coat, dark glasses and walked with a limp. I trailed him as far as the bus stop where I lost sight of him. He then, rather nimbly for a man with a limp, hopped onto the the number 22 bus. I sumissed he was headed for cover amongst the hustle and bustle of Dundee city centre. On a separate occassion I spotted a likely suspect running down the street. She was wearing a duffle coat and flares, so despite the fact she passed me by so quickly, I was quite sure that she was a candidate as either a belle and sebastian fan or a member of sinister. She could even be both. She missed the bus she had been running for which just confirmed my suspicsions. As I passed her I got a better look, and appeared to have just stepped straight out of a belle and sebastian song. I stored away the information for future use and continued along my way. I can't say I have been over successful in my mission. And I have yet to confirm a single sighting. I was becoming dispondent and was about to give up my mission in favour of something which was likely to provide more positive results,but just recently though I had a thought. Maybe there are other people in Dundee who belong to sinister; or who like belle and sebastian; or just people who are actually spys. But maybe they themselves are independant undercover agents. How am I supposed to track these people down? Here I'm really stumped. So I'm appealing to you all. If you have any ideas which will aid my investigation please let me know. Well take care, Rachel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Sep 30 21:58:06 2001 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:58:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: Evnin squire Message-ID: <8b.cf4046e.28e8e15e@aol.com> Hewwo, Wow, the new Hefner album is swell. I'm going to become obsessed with it. I'm glad that I paid ten pounds for it. I set out listening to it on the bus from Glasgow to Fife because I go there a lot now, since I learned all about taking the bus by myself, and not talking to strangers, and how they won't believe you're a half if you wear a strappy top. I'm not a half now. There were these girl on the bus who kept asking me how old i was, and if the star under my eye was a real tattoo (which its not) and if I had a boyfriend and if I'd ever had sex and what I was drawing. Cause I was drawing pictures of naked people, because that's my new hobby now. I was sitting in RE class and felt like I should be doing something wicked so I started drawing SCENES OF GRATUITOUS NUDITY (in big capital letters as such things always should be). But obviously I never showed the drawings to the kids, because that would make me a pervert. But anyways, the new Hefner album. It was good because all the songs happened at the right times on my journey. So now Alan Bean will always remind me of dunfermline bus station, and Home will always remind me of Kincardine (which looks like Shit Street out of the Viz). And it's SO magical. I went to Dundee uni open day. I really liked it, I really liked everything about it there. I want to become a dentist there now and move away from glasgow. I always wanted to be a dentist, but now I know where I want to do it. Though glasgow is swell too. Do you think B&S would let me be in them if I asked. I can play the guitar, and the tin whistle and sing a bit, or I could just stand about. Only I think it would be a grate way to start conversation with people to say "yes, well I'm in a band". I always wanted to be in a proper band, except for I usually end up being in rock band who need an emergeny rhythm guitarist, who chuck me once they've found someone who fits the image better. My hair has a braid in it. It's all different shades of purple, which is my favourite colour. I'm going through a phase of wearing nothing but purple because it's grate. It's one of those colours which just sends thrills all through you when you see it because it's so perfect. Its grate, it's just magical. And Ribena is purple too, which makes it even better. I better go now because in five minutes my boyfriend (I have one of those and I recommend them to everyone else because they are amazing) is going to phone me. My gosh, I'm so happy at the moment. You know, apart from the obvious. I wish I could make everyone as happy as me right this second. I think you should smile if you're reading this, because when people smile, even if they're unhappy, just for a second the feeling of smiling fools them into being happy. So go on. Hugs, Jen +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+