Sinister: The wrong dream to have on my mind...
tim plumley
explodinboy at xxx.com
Tue Sep 18 09:21:37 BST 2001
hey sinister,
I have been meaning to share my Belle and Sebastian
experience as Rachel did but then all this nightmare
began (BTW Rachel, I'm so glad that I sold my tickets
to you, a true fan who had the time of her life.)
Anyways as Rachel said I went to both nights in LA and
was mezmerized at how great they were, the second
night even topped the first which i didn't think was
possible. There have already been many reviews of the
shows so I won't focus on that but it was what
happened after the show that was amazing. After the
show my friend Garrett and I were going to get food
and pick up a friend of his that lives right near the
Wiltern. It turns out he wasn't there and we drove
behind the Wiltern where the bands rowdees were
loading their stuff. So i asked my friend if he wanted
to wait with the group of people that was there and he
asked if i had anything for them to sign...turned out
i had the Tigermilk and Sinister booklets in my car
(fate). So we waited from about 11 till 12 and then
Sarah came out, we went over to her and she signed
stuff and then got in a taxi and left, next was Mick,
then Bob, Chris, Stevie, and then lastly was Stuart.
Isobel somehow managed to slip out right after the
show, which bummed me out. I think she was drunk and
wanted to go drink more. Anyways we took pictures with
them and chatted and they signed everyones stuff and
they were all so incredibly nice and humble. While
Stuart was signing stuff the manager (i think) came
over and was going to take him away to the Bounty Bar
but he said that since we waited so long that he would
finish up and then walk over there. He invited us all
to come along and most went. We walked right next to
him and talked the whole time about things such as
what they have been doing in Cali, where they are
going, and a bunch of different things. Then when we
got there they were all drinking and socializing at
different tables. Isobel was there in the corner
looking cute as ever. Stuart was going to buy drinks
but i told him i wanted to buy him one and so i got
him a Jack and Coke. He was going to sit with us but
he got bombarded with fans and questions. It was
already 1:20 a.m. when we got there and then last call
came and then the bar closed and we all shuffled out
to the street. Before it closed however i got Isobel
to sign my album and then i took a picture with her.
Some guy was talking to her and then she gave him the
digits when he was leaving (lucky bastard). As a
result of this she is my new unattainable crush.
Stuart hung around a bit and then cut out and said he
was tired and they had to head to San Francisco the
next day. I can't stress how nice a group of people
B&S are. Fortuanately I will always have the memories
because it turns out my film was ruined and my
pictures didn't develop.
-tim
--- Rachel <blind_lisa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello SINISTER!
> First off, I have to tell you how wonderful I think
> you all are... especially in light of the
> recent tragedy. A lot of Americans are so
> ethnocentric that they have no clue that regular
> people
> in other countries are profoundly effected by this.
> They have no contacts outside their
> communities. I have shared some of your stories with
> people I know, and they were amazed. Also,
> even though some of you posted opinions that maybe
> were misinterpreted (like Adam), I find it
> extremely interesting and oddly soothing to really
> think about this from a lot of different points
> of view. I thank you all for the perspective you've
> given me, it has helped me deal with this.
>
> NOW FOR A LITTLE STORY... THE FOLLOWING IS A VERY
> DETAILED ACCOUNT OF MY EXPERIENCE SEEING BELLE
> AND SEBASTIAN ON SEPTEMBER 6TH IN LOS
> ANGELES...WARNING: IT IS VERY LONG!!!!!!!
>
> I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles. Three years
> ago I was on Sinister, and I actually had to
> sell my tickets I had for both New York shows (I had
> to move suddenly, so I couldn't afford the
> trip.) I have not been on the list since then, until
> 3 weeks ago. I was checking the website to
> see when the next b&s release would be, and I read
> that they were playing 2 shows in L.A. the
> following week. I FREAKED OUT! I knew the shows had
> to be sold out, but I was determined to get in
> to see them somehow. I rejoined Sinister right away,
> vowing that I would never EVER turn my back
> on it again!!!!
>
> Then, I saw a post that Tim Plumley had 2 extra
> tickets for the second show to sell me and I was
> ECSTATIC! (thanks, Tim!) They were general admission
> tickets, too. Probably better tickets than I
> would have gotten had I known about the show when
> the tickets went on sale!
>
> Thursday morning, the day of the show, I was at work
> and I got a phone call from my boyfriend,
> Dustin. He said he had bad news, and that he'd just
> gotten into a car accident. I was afraid he
> was hurt, but he wasn't. Then I was afraid that he
> couldn't go to the show with me, but he just
> asked if I could come pick him up (he's away at
> school now, going to the ArtCenter, which isn't
> too far from the venue) I arranged to leave work
> early so we could get there without any panic. I
> hate when I get panicked, I get all uptight and
> bitchy. The next obstacle was getting out of work
> early. I find that most art departments are fairly
> lax about the comings and goings of the
> graphic designers as long as there are no tight
> deadlines pending, I have only worked for this
> company for a little over 3 months and I hated to
> ask for special favors, but I HAD TO!!! They
> didn't have a problem with my early departure. I
> think I was driving them all crazy because I just
> kept saying "OH MY GOD!!! In __ hours, I will be
> seeing them!!!" and I think they were glad to get
> rid of me!
>
> I got to Dustin's and he was not sure if he should
> wear a tie. I was wearing a tie, and I told him
> he looks so sexy in a tie... we both went in ties.
> (We tend to dress up for everything! It's a
> compulsion!) We amazingly found our way to the venue
> even though neither of us can drive our way
> out of a paper bag (*see "car accident" from earlier
> that morning!) It was as if we had a homing
> device, always figuring out the correct turns in the
> unfamiliar territory! I usually have to leave
> at least 30 minutes early when I'm going somewhere
> new, or going from a different direction. We
> were both in high spirits, especially because it was
> so easy to get there.
>
> We had no problem finding Tim and his friend
> Garrett, and we got our tickets and stood in line
> talking about the show that Tim had seen the night
> before. I was practically bursting with
> excitement! Soon we were going inside!! The entire
> floor of seats and the pit area were for
> general admission ticket holders, but only those who
> lined up at the venue early and got
> wristbands were allowed into the pit. The rest of us
> got to choose our seats anywhere else on the
> floor. Dustin and I ended up toward the center,
> second row. I couldn't believe we were sitting
> there, and to think, we almost missed the show!!
>
> "People watching" at a Belle & Sebastian show is
> great! Usually, when I'm people watching, I try
> to find those who look like Belle & Sebastian fans,
> but being in a crowd of them was an overload!
> We admired lots of great hairdo's, outfits and
> glasses! So many cute people! We were very
> entertained by Jonathan Richman. It's so weird
> because the other designer I work with was just
> talking about him, and I had never heard of him
> before. She had made a little mini
> sculpture/doll/model of him for the movie 'There's
> Something About Mary' but they ended up not
> using the footage. Anyway, he was really funny and
> dorky and cool. At first, we didn't know what
> to think of him, but by the end we were totally into
> it.
>
> When Belle & Sebastian took the stage, everyone
> stood up and I just put my hands up to my mouth
> and I almost started crying. I couldn't believe how
> great they all looked and sounded! I was
> delighted to see that Isobel wasn't the skinny model
> type (surprised? um, I should listen closer
> to "Family Tree" !) She has such a gorgeous face and
> a cute body!!! She was wearing a navy and
> white striped shirt and had her hair pulled back.
> Her eyelashes are MILES long! Sarah looks so
> young, she has a doll face. Stuart was wearing a
> very cute outfit, I can't remember exactly what,
> but I know that he was well dressed and showing off
> his figure nicely. I think it was brown pants
> and a cream colored button down shirt with the
> sleeves rolled up (not like with a cigarette packet
> rolled up in it like Fonzie, more like Brett
> Anderson from Suede circa 1995. Oh wait, that's
> Fonzie again, isn't it!)... Stuart's so handsome.
> Stevie was wearing jeans and a black t-shirt and
> he looked adorable as well. Chris looks so cute in
> glasses! It was funny when Stuart made a
> comment about his glasses and Chris said he didn't
> have time to put in his contact lenses. Richard
> and the rest were equally as adorable and, God, they
> sound just like the albums, only better!!!!!
> But BOBBY, let me tell you, was the biggest shock to
> me. He's GORGEOUS. I had no idea. He had his
> rocker hairdo and a tight t-shirt on, and he's just
> adorable... his face is perfection. It was
> really cute, because at one point during the show, I
> can't remember what song it was, Isobel and
> Bobby were sitting off to the side, waiting to stand
> up and do the hand clapping, and they were
> saying hello to some kids in the pit. Isobel said
> something to Bobby and he was laughing and she
> looked at him with such an expression of adoration,
> it made me wonder if there wasn't some romance
> between them! So cute
>
> It was great during "Jonathan David" when Stevie
> took the record cover from a fan in the front row
> and started singing to the picture!!! When he tried
> to fling it back to them, he missed, or it hit
> them, I couldn't really tell. He and Stuart kept
> apologizing!
>
> After about 3 songs, Stuart was talking to the
> crowd. He commented on how there were some well
> dressed people out there. He was looking out at
> everyone and said something along the lines of
> "You, out there with the tie and what is that, a
> vest or something...it's great, thanks for
> dressing up!" Yeah, Dustin just looked at me like
> "is he really talking to me?" and I just laughed
> in amazement. Dustin said thanks and waved. Then
> Stuart said "and the girl next to you, she's
> smartly dressed as well, are you his girlfriend?"
> and I looked at Dustin and said "oh yeah!" and
> Stuart said he thought so and I said "but I'll be
> YOUR girlfriend!" and Stuart said "oh, I'm
> spoken for, but thanks!" ARRRGGGHHHH!!!! So cute!!!
> At that point I was feeling really elated,
> mixed with a feeling of insecurity, wondering how
> Stuart could have seen us well enough to notice
> our outfits!!! We both were extremely flattered.
>
> I was almost brought to tears again when they played
> "Fox in the Snow"... it was so PERFECT. They
> were going to play a cover song and Stuart said it
> was a band from California, at least, he thinks
> they were from California, he hopes so! Their
> version of "Creeque Alley" by the Mamas and the
> Papas was really great, they sounded just like
> them.. When the girls sang the line "in a coffee
> house Sebastian sat", and when the boys sang
> "Sebastian is off Lovin' Spoonful" they really
> emphasised the Sebastian part and it was really cool
> how perfect the song was for them to be
> singing! When they played "Dirty Dream Number Two"
> Stuart forgot to get someone from the audience
> up there to sing the "In a town so small..." part,
> so it was omitted. And when Stuart had the girl
> (was her name Tina?) come up onstage to sing "Take
> Me Out to the Ballgame" it was so cute, and the
> whole crowd was singing along loudly, and you could
> see it on their faces that they were pleased
> to get such participation! The girl got an
> autographed
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